0:00:03the incomparable no 321 October 2060
0:00:11what about everybody to the
0:00:12uncomfortable on your host Jason snow
0:00:14we're here to take another tour through
0:00:16a Pixar movie we're finishing up until
0:00:18they release another one next year the
0:00:19Toy Story series with 2010 toy story 3
0:00:25it came 11 years after the previous toy
0:00:27story movie
0:00:28sometimes you might call this like a
0:00:29late sequel like you're Indiana Jones
0:00:32and the whatever that was the skull
0:00:34that's got aliens in it
0:00:35I don't know what it's called anyway
0:00:36it's it but it's not bad like that one
0:00:38anyway to talk about this
0:00:40Pixar sequel three cool if you will I
0:00:44haven't joined by the following
0:00:45wonderful people David floor
0:00:46hello hello there there's a picture of a
0:00:48monkey on my screen who could that be
0:00:50oh it's Merlin Mann hi Merlin name right
0:00:53woodlot so does Tiffany are mint is here
0:00:57hello hi get the tortilla and Steve
0:00:59what's uh have a good evening Jason no
0:01:03owners means no heartbreaking and John
0:01:07siracusa I can't wait to discover my
0:01:09spanish mode during this body is no no
0:01:11mm let's say anything there's gonna be
0:01:15another toy story movie there cannot
0:01:17possibly be more stories to be told in
0:01:19the toy story universe is something i
0:01:21said in 2008 yeah uh-huh just keep
0:01:25making new kids the toy stay the same
0:01:27age right all right all right now you go
0:01:30tomorrow on here to get my references
0:01:32alright so toy story 3 they got the band
0:01:35back together to make a to make another
0:01:37movie and I'm wondering before i get
0:01:40into just sort of walking us through the
0:01:41plot so we can talk about what happens
0:01:42in this movie anybody have any initial
0:01:44thoughts opening statements or the like
0:01:46that they'd like to share with us now
0:01:47can we just start crying
0:01:49yes we can just start crying now that's
0:01:52gonna get you cry all the way through if
0:01:54you want you can get a woman trying
0:01:55that's what crying right it's tough i
0:01:59actually I bought this on blu-ray and
0:02:01then didn't watch it for a long long
0:02:04time because I just I didn't have the
0:02:06emotional fortitude I felt to go put
0:02:10myself through that again because I
0:02:12remember so very clearly some of the
0:02:14stuff that happens at the end of the
0:02:15movie and so I forgotten some of the
0:02:17delightful stuff that happens at the
0:02:19beginning of the movie
0:02:20yeah I only watched it once in the
0:02:22theater and then
0:02:22and watched it a couple of times for
0:02:24this podcast and was surprised that i
0:02:27didn't find it quite so heart-rending
0:02:30this time I guess to being unprepared
0:02:33for it is kind of what killed me that
0:02:35the end in the original viewing we have
0:02:37a four-year-old at home so he likes to
0:02:39watch things over and over and over and
0:02:41over so i probably have seen this movie
0:02:43I don't know 70 80 times now and it
0:02:48definitely gets easier dealing with it
0:02:50but what I had to sit down by myself and
0:02:53watch it for the podcast and actually
0:02:54pay attention and write some notes down
0:02:56yeah I cried like a baby so it doesn't
0:02:59get any better
0:03:00it's like the on opening weekend my
0:03:03youngest was was five and the older one
0:03:07was like I don't need to go see it
0:03:09ok so i take i take the youngest one and
0:03:12we go see the matinee and of course I'm
0:03:15not prepared for it i don't know what's
0:03:17gonna happen and and each level of the
0:03:21story you know just kept hitting me like
0:03:22a ton of bricks so by the end of the
0:03:24movie i mean you know i will get into
0:03:27all that later but i am just a Miss and
0:03:30and through the credits the credits are
0:03:32fun to sort of let you calm down and
0:03:35stop the ugly crying because i don't i
0:03:37don't cry at movies and i'm ugly crying
0:03:39through this and and we get home and the
0:03:43older one says how was it so i was
0:03:46really good and it made me cry goes can
0:03:48I go see it now and so am i literally no
0:03:52you cannot I I got back in the car and
0:03:55took him to see the next show that was
0:03:56available and of course it was even
0:03:59worse because now I know what's gonna
0:04:01was coming and and i had i still have
0:04:03not had you know days and weeks to
0:04:06process all this and so now i'm just a
0:04:09complete wreck by the end of the movie
0:04:11and I look over and I didn't realize
0:04:14this my partner in theater was across
0:04:16the theater from us and I look over at
0:04:19the end of movie and he looks over and
0:04:20sees me really hey you're a mess too
0:04:22awesome and our kids are just like hey
0:04:25that was great
0:04:26sad high five yeah the I actually that
0:04:30there's one big crying moment that's the
0:04:31reason that I didn't want to go back and
0:04:33revisit this for a while that at
0:04:35i I'm actually with Steve I didn't find
0:04:38as quite as a tier inducing but then you
0:04:43know after that there's more and that
0:04:45got me so you know it's pics are they
0:04:47talk they told us with that Jesse song
0:04:49that you're going to crime pixar movies
0:04:51and and it just is gonna happen because
0:04:53it's there's a different character to
0:04:55the the crying stuff in this movie in
0:04:58that is kind of like a happy thing as
0:05:00opposed to a heartbreaking thing started
0:05:02to the jesse seen toy story 2 still just
0:05:04kills me i could watch that over and
0:05:06over again every time I ball and this
0:05:08I've kind of made my peace with it i
0:05:11think at this point yeah I had two funny
0:05:13reactions on this is this along with day
0:05:16of the doctor are my two guaranteed
0:05:18ugly-cry watchings two things were like
0:05:20it's amazing to me how many times I can
0:05:22watch the doctor and they're still like
0:05:24three times I ball during that and to
0:05:28didn't hear this is and this time the
0:05:30only time I really the end a well you
0:05:34know my cowboy that's that to me that
0:05:37dad was gonna get me every single time
0:05:38what surprised me this time I can't
0:05:40decide how much of a bad person this
0:05:42makes me i am reminded how much i love i
0:05:46guess the second act of this the
0:05:48set-piece so you have in the middle of
0:05:50this and I know I know what I'm sure
0:05:52we'll talk about it but up a tooth I
0:05:53mean did this time I really I really
0:05:55because I felt a little more I had lots
0:05:58of other things I was crying about in
0:05:59America today so this wasn't so bad but
0:06:01the but the set-pieces involving
0:06:04especially getting briefed by the
0:06:06telephone was so so great but the other
0:06:11one that one that was unexpectedly funny
0:06:13triangle go back and watch it without
0:06:15the sound go watch the the sequence
0:06:17where they're talking about Daisy
0:06:21leaving them behind and it's it's very
0:06:24very funny
0:06:24I mean it's sad that it's very there's
0:06:27something extremely funny about it to
0:06:29them sitting on the fender constructing
0:06:32away and I don't know I I maybe I'm just
0:06:35having a weird week but that was
0:06:36unexpectedly funny to me that if you go
0:06:38back and watch it with the sound it's
0:06:40hilarious
0:06:40so let's uh let's get started with our
0:06:42initial sequence just as we had a sort
0:06:45of a sci-fi battle at the beginning of
0:06:47toy story 2 that was like whoa what
0:06:48going on and it was inside a video game
0:06:50here what we get is something that's a
0:06:52little bit different it is basically
0:06:54Andy's imagination of him using all of
0:06:58his characters to have this this train
0:07:01heist to give woody his own genre for
0:07:04once but what we're really seeing is not
0:07:06a video game or a movie or something but
0:07:08we're seeing Andy's imagination and it's
0:07:11a fun little Western scene that happens
0:07:14which integrates increasingly weird
0:07:16things until it does get sci-fi because
0:07:18you've got aliens and Buzz and so you
0:07:19have to have it eventually and this is
0:07:22our last moment with the old toy story
0:07:25with young Andy and as soon as it's over
0:07:28we are we are in grown-up Andy and
0:07:32that's when the movie begins and he's
0:07:33going off to college but we got that we
0:07:35get that fuckin that last little moment
0:07:37of of inspiration from from what we
0:07:40expect from sort of the original to
0:07:42stream movies starting again we bear
0:07:44witness to the horrible destructive
0:07:46power of barrel monkeys we saw them tear
0:07:49somebody live from in the previous
0:07:51previous episode I I wonder what
0:07:54happened in in his early years to Andy
0:07:56with a monkey that caused him to
0:07:58consider monkeys these terrible lesson
0:08:00so many Marcus's for John Lasseter that
0:08:03could be i might be reading too much
0:08:05into this but wasn't it
0:08:06student track somewhat closely to the
0:08:09play that Andy is doing at the beginning
0:08:11of choice the first toy story is
0:08:13negative this salary
0:08:14yes i want to point that out totally
0:08:17does yep even workshop money money money
0:08:20money yeah LOL doctor porn shop right
0:08:22but this is the production values are
0:08:23much much greater now because we've got
0:08:25the the bridge blowing up and you know
0:08:27that there's a lot of lots of action
0:08:29movie stuff that gets that we get to see
0:08:31right because we're seeing through his
0:08:33imagination is just mirrors ham wearing
0:08:35the odd-job hat now it's totally yeah
0:08:38he's wearing a porkpie hat you know
0:08:41dad this movie uh it's not a dad jokes
0:08:45on me I don't make the movie way to kill
0:08:48the episode yeah good yeah yeah you did
0:08:50it
0:08:51it's the life away 22 um I think it's
0:08:54into it and remembering what we know
0:08:57about these toy story movies before we
0:08:59get that moment where suddenly and he is
0:09:01getting ready to go to college and he's
0:09:03cleaning up his room we get the whole
0:09:04there's a that they make the transition
0:09:07they play you got a friend in me and
0:09:10then we'll get to the line and as the
0:09:12years go by
0:09:13that's when the transition happens our
0:09:15friendship will never die is the last
0:09:17thing we hear and the song cuts off and
0:09:19that line echoes on the screen goes
0:09:22black and that's what you're in for
0:09:25folks and we have like a big there's a
0:09:28big montage of him growing up that Lone
0:09:30Ranger Andy through the years montage
0:09:32yeah it which is pretty great i mean i
0:09:34love that he's first of all the nicest
0:09:36kid ever because he left his sister come
0:09:38in and he's like oh don't worry she just
0:09:40totally destroyed all my stumble
0:09:41integrate her into the story like one
0:09:43kid does that it was amazing because
0:09:45Andy's the best kid ever and i thought
0:09:48it was super cute he's measuring all his
0:09:49toys on the door and actually my brother
0:09:52did that so that's not too far-fetched
0:09:53you totally measured his toys and yeah
0:09:57they show like all these little cute
0:09:58sequences they're eating popcorn
0:09:59together you know all the love is there
0:10:02I love that popcorn bit where the piece
0:10:03of popcorn gets put in Rex's mouth while
0:10:05they're watching what is presumably a
0:10:07monster movie
0:10:07oh yeah describe the scary part the
0:10:09popcorn falls out right and of course
0:10:12that's just physics to people who don't
0:10:14understand that the toys are alive but
0:10:16we understand that Rex just coughed up a
0:10:18chunk of popcorn i also like that in the
0:10:21years as the years go by andys Andy's
0:10:25model has finally become less terrifying
0:10:27and off-putting anymore just looks like
0:10:31an apple kid
0:10:32yeah the show all the humans not from
0:10:34like a muppet babies angle anymore
0:10:36because I like you know what we can do
0:10:37faces and they won't scare you hear that
0:10:39we couldn't do that much for the mom
0:10:40more than you couldn't do much for the
0:10:42mom because the mom is is the embodiment
0:10:44of evil and so he has to look that as we
0:10:46discussed you I think I think she's
0:10:48definitely a monster and in this one I
0:10:50think she gets kind of past I think that
0:10:52the you know shame shame shame on pixar
0:10:54shame only uncle
0:10:54she actually the modest repast she
0:10:57creates the the terrible she takes the
0:10:59bag of toys that's destined for the
0:11:00attic and a lot of guys a lot of garbage
0:11:01have been playing and she is a throw
0:11:04them in the garbage if you need to get
0:11:06rid of a body you would want some
0:11:07garbage bags i'm just saying let's talk
0:11:09about that whole premise for a serious
0:11:10dad where's dad Steve to have a sense of
0:11:12where data is andy's I I know where dad
0:11:14is he's under the old house
0:11:15oh yeah in the crawlspace dunno he's
0:11:17going to John Wayne Gacy seller and he's
0:11:19on his way to college right he's getting
0:11:21ready to go to college
0:11:22his mom is making him put his whole room
0:11:24on mothballs right here either gotta
0:11:26throw everything in his room out or he's
0:11:28gotta stick it in the Attic she cannot
0:11:29wait to get rid of that kid just like
0:11:31she got rid of dad doesn't matter her if
0:11:35he needs to come back into his laundry
0:11:37or college doesn't go so good or he has
0:11:39nowhere to stay on his break see I just
0:11:41thought she wanted a crafting room man
0:11:43what're your God is getting the room
0:11:45right as his sister's getting the room
0:11:47because she wants on his still got a
0:11:48room but then then mom will have the
0:11:50sisters room as a crafting right but you
0:11:53like the crafting room like as soon as
0:11:55the kid moves out you wait until he's
0:11:56gone through college and got himself
0:11:58settled maybe that's what your parents
0:11:59that she's pushing what did anybody here
0:12:02have an evil mannequin mom like that
0:12:04like Andy's mom that forced that just
0:12:06decimated their room a taurus under as
0:12:10you were leaving to go to go to college
0:12:11which was already a touchy time know in
0:12:13my experience it it's a few years later
0:12:16when your parents call you and say you
0:12:18know that a lot of boxes here and we
0:12:21don't want them here anymore
0:12:22what are you gonna do about it but it
0:12:24takes awhile they don't do it right when
0:12:25you're leaving for school because they
0:12:26want to induce you to come back and
0:12:28visit at that point they can't get over
0:12:29there not ready to let you go
0:12:31oh god you're right Steve she is a
0:12:33monster no I don't want to be on her
0:12:36side
0:12:37so she's terrible i and yeah and and and
0:12:40then there's the scene a little bit
0:12:41later where she comes upon the toys
0:12:43waiting right at the base of the attic
0:12:45stairs
0:12:45naturally you you've given the kid the
0:12:48option between the stairs and the trash
0:12:50the bag is at the bottom of the trapdoor
0:12:52leading up to the stairs and resumption
0:12:54is right to the trash
0:12:56yeah well that's the weakness of this
0:12:58spot
0:12:59the setup of this movie and I was
0:13:00watching i was like huh
0:13:02you know I realize this entire movie is
0:13:04one of those misunderstanding base plots
0:13:06and misunderstanding based pots are not
0:13:08the greatest thing where like to kick
0:13:10things off you need a simple
0:13:12misunderstanding that would be cleared
0:13:14up luckily that's not really the heart
0:13:15of the movie and you don't spend the
0:13:16whole time going why are all these
0:13:18people just talking the results
0:13:19misunderstanding but it is kind of it's
0:13:22a big no-no they spend so much time on
0:13:23story and figure out how they have so
0:13:25such strong bones here in terms of the
0:13:27kids older one of the beginning about
0:13:28the toys like its natural progression
0:13:30from the first two movies and it still
0:13:32has to be a misunderstanding based thing
0:13:34where once again people think you know
0:13:36already doesn't love it anymore but
0:13:38actually he does always sending us away
0:13:39but no you're on the attic oh we don't
0:13:41believe what he but what he's telling
0:13:42the truth but we've seen all those
0:13:44things in the movies before
0:13:45luckily it moves on from that pretty
0:13:47quickly and gets into the whole prison
0:13:49escape thing and then the end of the
0:13:50movie but it's a small thing in the
0:13:52grand scheme of things but yeah you like
0:13:53as strong as their story team as they
0:13:55could have come up with something a
0:13:56little better right you just needed
0:13:57something anything to get things going
0:13:59but like I'm but at this point I'm kind
0:14:01of I don't like seeing people not
0:14:04believe would be anymore because every
0:14:06movie has everything himself like listen
0:14:10to woody my kind of right now baby was
0:14:12gonna put you in the Attic don't believe
0:14:13what he never tells the truth now when
0:14:15the very first thing he does say we're
0:14:17nobody's getting thrown away and they
0:14:19you know i'm not sure he really should
0:14:21be that confident about it and I think
0:14:22he even sort of says really what am I
0:14:24supposed to say about it like he's
0:14:26trying to give him a pep talk
0:14:27so you know i'm not sure you can a
0:14:28hundred percent trustworthy but he's got
0:14:30their best interests at heart
0:14:32yeah but bus knows the score I mean he
0:14:34told he tells buzz he doesn't nourish
0:14:36right there co-parenting I mean they've
0:14:38all been there he knows there's no
0:14:39guarantee and yet buzz right along with
0:14:41the rest of them decides now let's hop
0:14:43in the Box on the way to the daycare we
0:14:44don't we don't buy this whole thing is
0:14:46going to put in the Attic that was the
0:14:47first move in the movie that sort of hit
0:14:49one of those little tumblers and in the
0:14:52safe in my head because when i was
0:14:55little i did have a small bag of toys
0:14:58that my grandfather accidentally thrown
0:14:59out with the trash because he thought it
0:15:01was trash so it's sort of like this ring
0:15:03is completely true to me
0:15:05yeah I like awesome toys that my parents
0:15:06tossed that that you know I don't know
0:15:09why it happened but they were not nice
0:15:11to be Austin they just were cleaning
0:15:12up something and I was messianic Lee and
0:15:14they got I i would say i think the story
0:15:16team made a decision which is they
0:15:18didn't want to paint & E as a kid
0:15:20because we know these toys and we love
0:15:22them they can't have Andy do what he
0:15:24probably would have done which is say
0:15:26maybe not throw them out but say let's
0:15:28just give these away send these to the
0:15:30sentence to the preschool or wherever
0:15:32because i don't want these i'm only
0:15:33going to keep my tues toys that I that I
0:15:35love buzz and woody and they didn't want
0:15:37him to do that they didn't want him to
0:15:38to be the the kid who would who would
0:15:41get rid of those toys so they had to
0:15:44make this misunderstanding
0:15:45instead I'm oh I was I was gonna say
0:15:47when they're talking about getting
0:15:49thrown away I like that there's a moment
0:15:50in there that is a nod to the
0:15:52sensitivity about what happened to Jesse
0:15:54that i read in there which like we all
0:15:56know that Jesse's already gone through
0:15:57this and had like a little moment of
0:15:59like we know
0:16:00yes it well and they did they like
0:16:03checked in with her do you like you okay
0:16:04you okay the Attic it'll be okay little
0:16:06sensitivity for Jesse that choice that
0:16:09Andy make something he does eventually
0:16:10make it but he has to get to it and if
0:16:13he if that were the trace at the
0:16:15beginning of the movie where is the
0:16:16ending where's that right shift for him
0:16:19so I i get it i have to think that this
0:16:21that this story is in part a product of
0:16:24the people who made toy story talking
0:16:27about the ramifications of the world
0:16:30they built over a decade because write a
0:16:32lot of this really is like okay we said
0:16:35that the point of being a toy is to be
0:16:36played with like what happens when he
0:16:38grows up to those toys are they do they
0:16:40just go to the incinerator happy in the
0:16:42knowledge that they lived a good life
0:16:43playing with a kid and now they're done
0:16:44do they get handed off to another kid
0:16:46and what happens if they could put in
0:16:47the Attic because we already explained
0:16:49with the old prospector that not being
0:16:50played with is this terrible thing and
0:16:52so you know trying to work through all
0:16:54of that and when they discuss the Attic
0:16:55they sort of say well it'll be warm up
0:16:57there and there's Christmas ornaments up
0:16:59if you can hear me great right when it's
0:17:01alive by the way but they're gonna watch
0:17:04from the reason is box i think that's
0:17:06the implication is that they are and
0:17:08they're not particularly liked by the
0:17:10toys there darling another place from
0:17:12there tree there troglodytes up in the
0:17:14attic
0:17:14yeah there's that old TV up there so
0:17:16they can watch some TV and I think
0:17:17that's really interesting because
0:17:18they're trying to say like well it's not
0:17:20like they're going to be sentenced to do
0:17:22me they're gonna just be waiting and
0:17:24they say like but and
0:17:25maybe Andy will keep us and then he will
0:17:27come back home and play with us or maybe
0:17:29his kids will play with us and that's
0:17:31their kind of like long-term hope I'm
0:17:33not sure that's realistic but I didn't
0:17:35really get the sense like this seems to
0:17:36be a story written by people who really
0:17:38had time to kind of throw around ideas
0:17:40about what it means that they wrote
0:17:42those other movies and where does the
0:17:44story lead from there and I in this
0:17:45whole part III was I was thinking about
0:17:48that
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0:18:48sisters room are because presumably the
0:18:51sister toys are alive and Barbie crosses
0:18:54over right but presumably there's a
0:18:56whole other toy story world happening
0:18:58over there and are they like the US and
0:19:00canada or something where they have some
0:19:03limited interaction or what is because
0:19:05there's a war we played all together
0:19:06because when they had that staff meeting
0:19:08it was it was pretty like you know like
0:19:09that many people left for the staff
0:19:12meeting
0:19:12yeah so have we just numbers don't have
0:19:14much problem going from room to room as
0:19:16long as the price is empty so I suspect
0:19:17when things are empty they just cruise
0:19:19over and mingle
0:19:20I was a little surprised that we didn't
0:19:21get a moment where like the sisters toys
0:19:24were there and I i guess because it's
0:19:26you have to build all the models it
0:19:28would be kind of unrealistic to put that
0:19:29investment and have them just sort of
0:19:30like wave and say okay we gotta go back
0:19:32over to our side but I did feel Bridal
0:19:34team across the lake
0:19:35yeah because i kind of want i kinda
0:19:37wanted some of that
0:19:38and and I think barbie is what we got
0:19:40which is fine i'm usually the guy that
0:19:42likes to pick apart whether the cat
0:19:43stalking or not but I I given given up
0:19:45the casts in this one because i think
0:19:47the I mean I we have to get to this
0:19:50later but let's just say we talked about
0:19:51in toy story 2 you know the thing with
0:19:53jesse is I think hmm it's probably
0:19:57happened earlier but I feel like the
0:19:58flashback with Jesse in toy story 2
0:20:01feels like one of the first really overt
0:20:03assertions that these toys are proxies
0:20:07for the parents and I think that really
0:20:09I'm haha this is the really obviously
0:20:12really stupid but they clearly that's
0:20:14what we're looking at in this so I gave
0:20:16him a pass on all the how did the
0:20:17fantasy world work more in the sense of
0:20:19like well what do we do now that we've
0:20:23fulfilled our whatever our prime
0:20:24directive as being Andy's toys
0:20:26well what happens now and so you're
0:20:28seeing those last scraps this is our
0:20:30last-ditch effort to make this happen
0:20:31we're gonna try this stuff with with the
0:20:32phone and you know is played out
0:20:34especially well i think by somebody like
0:20:35racks is like you know works we're just
0:20:37not getting we haven't played with in
0:20:38years and it really looks like we're
0:20:40just not gonna get played with again and
0:20:42that's not such a far leap to how you
0:20:44feel when you're your kids are
0:20:45increasingly growing up and you're
0:20:46saying well we're going off to college
0:20:47like in your having all these scraps
0:20:49Michael maybe they'll come home every
0:20:51Thanksgiving so that I I feel like
0:20:53that's that still is very affecting to
0:20:55me to touch on on the point of this
0:20:57being a kind of a kind arising from
0:21:00discussions among the story team about
0:21:02how things you know might continue on
0:21:04with the logical conclusion of the toys
0:21:06is a lot of trepidation I had when I
0:21:09heard they were making a toy story three
0:21:11was I felt like toy story 2 kind of left
0:21:14off in a good place like a buzz and
0:21:17woody were resigned to the fact that it
0:21:19wouldn't last forever but it was going
0:21:21to be cool while it lasted
0:21:22we didn't necessarily need to know you
0:21:25know that the sad truth of how they were
0:21:27going to end up which is probably in a
0:21:28dumpster somewhere unloved and meshing
0:21:31with rotten banana peels
0:21:33so my concern was you know i kinda like
0:21:37where that is and it worries me that
0:21:39there they feel like they have to
0:21:41continue with that and and I can't
0:21:44couldn't imagine a way that they could
0:21:45come up with a story that
0:21:48that would be satisfying in that respect
0:21:50and much to my surprise they did I mean
0:21:53this is a very well done way to sort of
0:21:56finish off the saga and I think that's
0:21:59probably one of the four me one of the
0:22:01biggest strength of this movie is that
0:22:02they managed to pull it off at all
0:22:04it's kind of an adventure sandwich
0:22:05because the first and third acts are are
0:22:07very emotional and have a lot of you
0:22:09know emotional story stuff but it's it's
0:22:11it's the great escape or what you know
0:22:13it's any of several classic movies in
0:22:15the middle and right and more and more
0:22:16appreciate how good in the same way that
0:22:18I think the incredibles is unimpeachable
0:22:19one of the great action movies i think
0:22:21this was I think this has some pretty
0:22:22terrific action great pacing throughout
0:22:25the Middle where you almost forget about
0:22:27the whole not forget about but now we're
0:22:29worried about the plight of these toys
0:22:30with the with the kids who you know
0:22:32stick stick potato parts in their nose
0:22:34and stuff like that it's almost like a
0:22:36great heights movie they just they only
0:22:38have synchronize watches and that's what
0:22:39makes it awesome
0:22:40now they do a little heist with the you
0:22:42know why the frog and all that but here
0:22:44you get into a half highest half prison
0:22:45for prison escape movie but that's you
0:22:48know that's what it is it's pretty great
0:22:50i almost feel like as as well done of a
0:22:52no Mirage to prison break movies is that
0:22:53is that almost for me is like the
0:22:55weakest part of the movie because it's
0:22:56so much fun oh Maj and I've seen these
0:22:59same story people come up with so many
0:23:01original ideas that to see them
0:23:03basically just take the familiar
0:23:05characters and drop them into somebody
0:23:07else's scenario is a little
0:23:09disappointing but it's so well done i
0:23:11mean i can't complain too much about it
0:23:12like Shawshank with toys right like I
0:23:14think it because it is such a
0:23:16transformation because it's not just
0:23:17like hey I'm going to make a heist movie
0:23:19and it's gonna be a mosh all my favorite
0:23:21heist movies like that but it's still
0:23:23gonna you know be realistic human world
0:23:25type thing this is so far off so
0:23:27transformative you know in the sort of
0:23:29like fair use sense or whatever that at
0:23:32it adds this level of absurdity that I
0:23:34give them a pass for every single much
0:23:36every single shot every single you know
0:23:38Fellini thing that they throw in there
0:23:40and top of all the heist movie stuff
0:23:42like because it is just it's just so
0:23:44absurd because it's a bunch of toys and
0:23:45they're in a daycare and it's not a
0:23:46prison and it's like you know I'm with
0:23:49marijuana setting that middle section it
0:23:51would read as kind of like yeah we get
0:23:53it you've seen a lot of it
0:23:54oh hi standard prison escape movies
0:23:56alright that's fine but having toys act
0:23:59all out and having just everything about
0:24:01it be twisted around like you know 720
0:24:04degrees and it totally works for me that
0:24:07you know I just like every every single
0:24:09scene that you're not just appreciate
0:24:11what a clever all modules you're also
0:24:12appreciating how ridiculous it is that
0:24:15you know it's it's there in a daycare
0:24:17and they're all toys and the kids are
0:24:19monsters and by like it since i'm gonna
0:24:22see this movie not as many times and
0:24:23stuff but a lot now I just spend time
0:24:25looking at the background in the daycare
0:24:27and like having had two kids go through
0:24:29daycare you look at it you're like wow
0:24:30like they spent some time in daycare sex
0:24:33is a research trip for this instead of
0:24:34you know going into the ocean or
0:24:36shooting bows and arrows they just spent
0:24:38a lot of time in daycares it it's
0:24:40amazing and to have that be the backdrop
0:24:42for this middle section i agree that it
0:24:44kind of feels like three pieces like the
0:24:46beginning and then this prison break in
0:24:47the middle but just all I love all three
0:24:49pieces so i can I can't get mad at this
0:24:51movie ever like it just amazes me how
0:24:53well constructed is the moruach it the
0:24:55more I'm like god damn be made made
0:24:57three good movies
0:24:58I mean I i was sitting there the first
0:25:00time the the day I saw the twice and and
0:25:03thinking okay why is this in three
0:25:05pieces and and there i mean there is a
0:25:07very clear break between the sections
0:25:10they're very 33 very clear act and then
0:25:13the second time that night it hit me and
0:25:16and I've watched it I don't know dozens
0:25:19of times since then and it still works
0:25:22for me it's also it's not just a heist
0:25:25movie it's the divine comedy
0:25:26oh yeah right i've heard the Aerie yeah
0:25:29forget library and there's a certain
0:25:31purgatory and you know limbo they're not
0:25:34being played with purgatory box
0:25:35purgatory box below and that early early
0:25:37part in the the daycare center is you
0:25:41know it's a little bit since the
0:25:42beginnings of the rings of hell and then
0:25:44of course we have a literal inferno and
0:25:47eventually they wind up in Paradise
0:25:50which is a new a new place to play a new
0:25:52place
0:25:53I mean I want to get ahead and well and
0:25:55we'll get there momentarily the talk
0:25:58about the absurdity of it I what I would
0:25:59just say is the the brutal king of the
0:26:02prison yard is a strawberry scented
0:26:03teddy bear
0:26:05and the person that you have to get past
0:26:07in order to do your plan is a monkey
0:26:12with the little symbols that's those are
0:26:14the magnetic in virgil that's the
0:26:16absurdity of yeah it is beautiful yeah
0:26:18exactly so before we get there I wanted
0:26:20to mention the garbage truck there is a
0:26:21guy with the with the likes its shirt
0:26:25loading the truck is said the driver of
0:26:27the truck that's totally said alright
0:26:28that's it really
0:26:29and he's not the driver he's collecting
0:26:31use without in the back I guess it's
0:26:33like a Punisher shirt on
0:26:35no it's totally said he's the exact
0:26:36right age he's the same age as andy and
0:26:39he's like that he's like the intern you
0:26:40know it but they moved a long ways away
0:26:42from wheres it was that said follow Andy
0:26:45for some reason it's hard to find good
0:26:46work in the tri-county area he just
0:26:48happens to be the garden there just in
0:26:49the same town should have new versions
0:26:51of his old shirt that he had 11 years
0:26:53ago
0:26:54well yeah did Danny just move across
0:26:56town that's no happy child because that
0:26:59kind of ruins the whole idea that the
0:27:01toys would never be able to find Andy
0:27:02again after they moved well they were
0:27:04panicking so given that it's one line of
0:27:07dialogue you'll be fine at the very
0:27:08least it's certainly an odd to sit that
0:27:10he's wearing since shirt and it would be
0:27:12a job thats it could do being the
0:27:14garbage man it could be said they could
0:27:16totally see better things for Sid
0:27:18frankly but not that there's anything
0:27:20wrong with the garbage he's happy he's
0:27:22driving on sometime like it if its most
0:27:25to be said that the decency to make him
0:27:27how you know yesterday happy in his work
0:27:29is not just like miserable like oh I was
0:27:31mean and now my life is terribly seems
0:27:32to be having a good time i'm sure the
0:27:34people and found it he found a good spot
0:27:36for himself you know what I mean he
0:27:37found his knee
0:27:38well he's crushing thing i'm sure the
0:27:40Pizza Planet delivery truck driver is
0:27:42the garbage-truck driver to they're just
0:27:44working together now they're there
0:27:45they're the best garbage repeat the
0:27:47planet truck that they're riding on the
0:27:48writing on the yeah they are flashback
0:27:50yeah okay we just talked about how Andy
0:27:54knows Jesse and bull's-eyes name
0:27:58no it's the with the administrator he
0:28:01looked him up on ebay like whoa wait a
0:28:03minute these guys are really part of the
0:28:05whole woody gang I'm sure looked up at
0:28:08some point figured that yeah yeah one
0:28:09line and I'll see Steve what see the
0:28:11what it is is among the dead father's
0:28:14personal effects since we have already
0:28:16is a whole
0:28:17look about the history of Woody's
0:28:19roundup and so so he knows it from now
0:28:21his hat is totally Jesse's hat not what
0:28:24his hat and his hat
0:28:26I'm talking about right yeah huh Andy is
0:28:29the cowboy hat is jesse's hat not
0:28:32Woody's hat that's true
0:28:33yep yeah it's all the things the plastic
0:28:36what's going on
0:28:37following this house udo's to moms are
0:28:39not put it throwing gender conventions
0:28:41on the kid that that's one good thing
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0:30:29let's go to the daycare
0:30:30we made a very nice bear voice by Ned
0:30:33baby names Lotso Lotso hugging bear he's
0:30:36p smells like strawberries and he's very
0:30:38nice with some southern charm the door
0:30:40has a rainbow on she just threw me away
0:30:43you got to be wary of Ned Beatty yeah
0:30:45just I'm just saying I note that i wrote
0:30:47down about this scene where we meet all
0:30:49the different toys is when Ken meets
0:30:51Barbie so we see there's a can play by
0:30:53Michael Keaton he meets Barbie and we
0:30:55get dreamweaver which i'm not sure but
0:30:58may actually just be of wings world
0:31:00reference not even going all the way
0:31:02back and it ends with a record scratch
0:31:05sound that no one watching the movie
0:31:07even in 2010 who is under the age of 30
0:31:11would have ever heard me use a different
0:31:13song in a trailer didn't say I was
0:31:15trying to remember what it was but I
0:31:15remember I like the song and a trailer
0:31:17better than the one they used in the
0:31:19movie and I wondered why they change it
0:31:20does anyone remember what's only use the
0:31:22trailer for that for that shot like when
0:31:24Ken and Barbie spots can and they look
0:31:26into each others eyes that is a
0:31:27different song in the commercial for and
0:31:29I thought that was way better than
0:31:31dreamweaver we'll find out when someone
0:31:33the emails us and tells us
0:31:39the problem is that every time I use a
0:31:41song they scratch that record and they
0:31:42can't use it again
0:31:44that's what I had to have been watching
0:31:46VHS tapes and like I remember when he
0:31:47was little it's like why is the aspect
0:31:49ratio change where all those lines on
0:31:50the video
0:31:51yeah the kids won't know what they'll
0:31:53figure it out yes I like how they call
0:31:55it Ken's dream house specifically yeah
0:31:57we can stream house that's right so we
0:31:59meet we meet these of a toys and this
0:32:01like hey this is a great retirement for
0:32:03these for these toys that we're gonna
0:32:05get thrown out they think they were
0:32:06gonna get thrown out is they get they
0:32:08get to be played without a preschool
0:32:10that we know that playing is the thing
0:32:12that they're made to do and it struck me
0:32:15at this point because wood is like no no
0:32:17we've got to get back to Andy and they
0:32:18again poopoo him and how much
0:32:20credibility dude is what you need to
0:32:22have with these people all this time the
0:32:25thing that got me about it that struck
0:32:26me watching it is it's about duty to
0:32:29woody woody is about doing his duty and
0:32:32and what would he considers the duty of
0:32:35all of these toys is to be in the Attic
0:32:37if that's where and he wants them to be
0:32:39doesn't matter that they'd rather be
0:32:41played with then be put in the Attic
0:32:43it's like we're his toys
0:32:44it's our job to go where he wants us to
0:32:46go including in the Attic it just it
0:32:48just struck me that like that's in what
0:32:50his mind he's about self-sacrifice
0:32:53basically and saying this is what we
0:32:55need to do because he's our kid where
0:32:56they're like we're out of there where we
0:32:58you know we got a lifeline here to do
0:33:00something different we're gonna we're
0:33:01gonna dump him since we thought he was
0:33:03gonna dump us and and and they don't
0:33:05want anyone used to be a little bit
0:33:07selfish that because remember what he
0:33:08was going to college what he's not going
0:33:10to me don't know you guys character
0:33:11moment where we really were you you know
0:33:13you you makes you like a candy bar
0:33:15because you realize he's still going to
0:33:16bring the one toy that he really loves
0:33:18don't forget to college and I know a lot
0:33:19of people who did that who brought like
0:33:21they're one special stuff down whatever
0:33:22just something from childhood that you
0:33:24still bring with you to college and that
0:33:26was going to be woody and that's kind of
0:33:28a thread running through his entire
0:33:29personality that he's always all about
0:33:30the greater good and what the group
0:33:32should do but also with the assumption
0:33:34that he of course is the top of the
0:33:35pyramid and makeup get special treatment
0:33:38so he was going to college it's much
0:33:40easier for him to explain every you guys
0:33:41just hang on the Attic
0:33:43I'll go to college that's totally built
0:33:45into his personality despite the first
0:33:46two movies it's still in there like it's
0:33:48not like and now he's cured and will be
0:33:50a better person like like real people
0:33:52this is just part of his personality and
0:33:53he has to struggle to manage it and in
0:33:56this movie is the same so I feel like
0:33:57when he's talking to them about you know
0:34:00his sense of duty whatever sense of duty
0:34:02is a lot for them less than for himself
0:34:04because he was going to be separate but
0:34:06he's willing to go along with them as
0:34:08well that's in managing its saying okay
0:34:09well i'm gonna make the speech to them i
0:34:11have to be willing to do this as well
0:34:13and not go with andy which eventually he
0:34:15you know resigns himself now begin with
0:34:17them but when he says that I think if I
0:34:20was one of the toys again as you get so
0:34:21twisted around this world because you
0:34:23have to really accept the premise but I
0:34:25thinking like is that really the best
0:34:27thing woody is it the best-known
0:34:29traumatic because you mentally it's just
0:34:30a lunatic frankly especially considering
0:34:32that Andy already believes they didn't
0:34:35know that and he believes that they were
0:34:36thrown out and at this point they think
0:34:39that they reach paradise they're about
0:34:41to find out that it's actually been put
0:34:43in the most horrible place that they
0:34:44could possibly be but they don't know
0:34:46that for now yeah and it could end it
0:34:49could be made better like it you know it
0:34:50doesn't have to be bad but like some
0:34:52what a jesse is the perfect example
0:34:54because we keep forgetting Jesse had an
0:34:57owner and the owner grew up and now
0:34:59she's having a second life with a new
0:35:01owner so it's not as if these toys don't
0:35:03think you okay you hang out with your
0:35:04kid you let him play with you and then
0:35:06you just go into the attic and just wait
0:35:08it out or whatever like that's possible
0:35:09to have a second-round they mentioned
0:35:11that was like oh maybe he'll give us to
0:35:12his games like I don't understand why
0:35:14the toy premises and ok your kid grows
0:35:16up and then your next job is to find
0:35:18another kid because it happened with
0:35:20Jesse and you know what happened with
0:35:22them as well I should be common
0:35:23knowledge among the toys like when your
0:35:24kid goes up grows up it's time for you
0:35:26to try to find another kid
0:35:28well the army men have it figured out
0:35:29that who knows how long getting army men
0:35:31have been around ya paratroopers only
0:35:33one bucket of our winter and between
0:35:34everybody as soon as the garbage bag
0:35:36comes out where the first to go is also
0:35:39like to be i mean the the maybe someone
0:35:41admittedly corny theme of friendship
0:35:44teamwork togetherness which become sort
0:35:46of the overriding theme by the end
0:35:47certainly by the closing credits i mean
0:35:49in this case they're sort of rewarded
0:35:51for how much they ended up working
0:35:52together like they would not have been
0:35:54able to achieve that break if they had
0:35:56been exactly 13 and I i don't think that
0:35:58they lean on that too hard i don't think
0:36:00it's there's not like a song about
0:36:01friendship or something until the end
0:36:02but I like
0:36:04about that and that there is like
0:36:05they're you know this is not gonna be
0:36:06it's on another level now it's about
0:36:09aging which is that there's more to this
0:36:11didn't like the easy relationships that
0:36:12we get that we just take for granted for
0:36:14the first 20 usually you know 10 15 20
0:36:17years of our life is also the kind of
0:36:18relationships that you work on that
0:36:19those the this can be very enduring
0:36:21satisfying to and I had the work and
0:36:23make the smart choice not to dwell on
0:36:24all the things that you mentioned the
0:36:26misunderstanding they're not believing
0:36:27woody like they get past them in short
0:36:30order because like so many movies just
0:36:31getting some of the earlier tour
0:36:33services such a major point it's like we
0:36:35don't we don't want to see that going on
0:36:36and on
0:36:37if you display would be for a little bit
0:36:38like will get past it quickly we have to
0:36:40get on with the rest of the movie
0:36:41because there are so many so many moving
0:36:43parts here and so many themes so many
0:36:44things that happen that they wisely
0:36:46don't spend a lot of time like arguing
0:36:49about whether it's better to go with the
0:36:51enemy to college or in the attic or if
0:36:53they should find another owner for you
0:36:54believe what he liked everything gets
0:36:55like two or three lines and the action
0:36:57continues like the movie just moves so
0:37:00the kids are let in to this preschool
0:37:02classroom and it is revealed that these
0:37:06kids are rambunctious and treat the tour
0:37:08toys terribly in a montage that is like
0:37:12I think I'm not sure this one's got the
0:37:15horror movie music in it later there's
0:37:17another montage of the kids playing that
0:37:19is just it is literally scored like a
0:37:21horror movie and this is more just like
0:37:24frenzy
0:37:24yeah exactly it's amazing now that the
0:37:27toddlers are so wonderfully grotesque I
0:37:29mean the yeah that the the shot
0:37:31particularly of from inside of buzzes
0:37:34space helmet as the mouth and the tongue
0:37:37kind of press against it and you see
0:37:39like the air before the tongue even hit
0:37:41you kind of see it start to plug up with
0:37:43the breathing it's great and all the
0:37:45toys hide when the kids come in like all
0:37:47the other toys that no other ones that
0:37:49are wise is the only one that catches it
0:37:50yeah he causes helmet i also get full
0:37:53points to the lighting in that one for
0:37:55some reason there's this one shot of
0:37:57where the little kid grabs Jesse tips on
0:37:59the green pain starts rubbing on the
0:38:01canvas the lighting in that is exquisite
0:38:03it really looks like that room one of
0:38:06the downsides to really downsides one of
0:38:08the weird things about a very well
0:38:09animated very well rendered films you
0:38:11kind of stopped noticing how good it is
0:38:12you start noticing a little Nick's on
0:38:14the toybox you stop noticing that the
0:38:16including tiny little wrinkles and Andy
0:38:18shirt this heat the seatbelt seatbelt in
0:38:20the world is not noticing all these
0:38:21things because the story is good and you
0:38:23just enjoying the visuals but just go
0:38:25watch any one minute of any of those
0:38:27scenes at the daycare center and like
0:38:28just like circuses said the the amount
0:38:30of extraordinary unnecessary like
0:38:32perfect detail and then just rendered
0:38:34you don't mean about the lighting though
0:38:35the way it looks in that scene it this
0:38:38movie looks amazing it looks so much
0:38:40better than even toy story 2 I mean I
0:38:41got a grant is a long gap but like it
0:38:44having three shots and essentially the
0:38:46same characters that were already
0:38:47basically the easiest characters they
0:38:49could do because it's like hard plastic
0:38:50and I mean they do them so well liked in
0:38:53this movie I was struck by it as well I
0:38:55feel like a toy story 3 you know that
0:38:57looks about the same story to know now
0:38:58doesn't like it just it is leaps and
0:39:00bounds again above it makes me wonder is
0:39:02there anywhere left to go for toy story
0:39:04well maybe they can finally fix Buster
0:39:06the dog is he still doesn't look all
0:39:07that great yeah well things are tough
0:39:10did you guys notice how in the escape
0:39:13when Woody is leaving the before you
0:39:15know before all the kids come in and we
0:39:17see what he kind of making his little
0:39:18escape route that he kinda moves
0:39:20differently then he used to in the other
0:39:24movies he's just seems a little bit more
0:39:25flexible little bit more animated do to
0:39:29anybody else because we can see jumpy
0:39:31yeah we're going to the toilet paper he
0:39:33like grabs it kind of like wild e coyote
0:39:35ask about more Buster kidney
0:39:38I got a big bold note on on the antics
0:39:40of Woody's movement in this except that
0:39:42they were extraordinary all the things
0:39:43of him
0:39:44I mean if there's the funny stuff in the
0:39:46second one
0:39:49like where he has to do a similar thing
0:39:50of sliding down and go go effect the
0:39:52rescue for weezy that his name but but
0:39:56in this one I just thought i was so
0:39:58delightful to totally like you say the
0:39:59totally Bugs Bunny like running on the
0:40:01toilet paper roll and the way he gets
0:40:02all skinny behind something skinny i
0:40:04thought that was just pure joy and and
0:40:07so well-executed I mean if i'm not
0:40:09mistaken they had to render everything
0:40:11from scratch because they were using new
0:40:14software and knew every thoroughly and
0:40:17and that's part of why it's so much
0:40:19improved it's not it's not working off
0:40:21the original models and programming but
0:40:24the animations there's are getting like
0:40:26I've been noticing that but i canna
0:40:27Woody's animated with more flair
0:40:29let's put it that way like they that you
0:40:31know that they learn they learned by
0:40:32animating the characters for two movies
0:40:34it's kind of like how what if you see
0:40:37someone drugged newspaper comic strip
0:40:39for people to remember those in the
0:40:40newspaper you know and if you look at a
0:40:42strip from the very first trip into like
0:40:45that you know many many years later you
0:40:48see how in the original strip the
0:40:50characters have attributes and almost
0:40:52inevitably several years and when the
0:40:54strip becomes big whatever
0:40:56characteristics like they pick something
0:40:58like this characters nose is gonna be
0:41:00big and yeah it's big in the first trip
0:41:01by the end the characters basically and
0:41:03nose with two eyeballs attached to write
0:41:04that features become exaggerated look at
0:41:06Garfield and Odie how they change over
0:41:08their life and so just obviously we
0:41:10can't change the models because the toys
0:41:12are with the toys are but by the third
0:41:13movie woody movie you know the first
0:41:16movie he's kind of gangly and spastic
0:41:18and a third movie it's like you know
0:41:19Buster Keaton or whatever like it's
0:41:21incredibly exaggerated that they that
0:41:24it's almost like you need to get the
0:41:26same high you need to get a bigger hit
0:41:27or whatever they're just really homing
0:41:30in on what is it that makes woody woody
0:41:32and exaggerating it to good effect i
0:41:34think because I i noticed that as well
0:41:35and when I notice that it didn't think
0:41:37like that doesn't look like what he is
0:41:38thought that's the wittiest woody just
0:41:40like that's a seatbelt the seatbelt
0:41:42yeah i disagree i thought he was a
0:41:43little bit too cartoony he didn't feel
0:41:46more like a physical object that's
0:41:48moving around like he did before I don't
0:41:50know I thought some of the movements
0:41:51were it went too far it was too much
0:41:53yeah they come dangerously close in a
0:41:55couple of places to actually almost
0:41:57entering into Looney Tunes territory
0:41:59like exactly yeah I didn't lie saying
0:42:00where the kite like lifts them up off
0:42:02the ground
0:42:03you know several hundred feet in the air
0:42:05in milliseconds and I think there's
0:42:07actually almost some nearly loony-tune s
0:42:09music that plays along with that
0:42:11yeah the kind on the toilet paper but
0:42:13that's what he liked his joints don't
0:42:15have anything in he is a rag doll that
0:42:18with pinch fabric joins you don't see
0:42:20buzz acting spastic like that because
0:42:22he's a stiff plastic space ranger right
0:42:24i think it's in character it's not as if
0:42:26they just took every character and that
0:42:27is not generally though it's the physics
0:42:29of the situation that are a little
0:42:30screwy yeah well you know if you're
0:42:31gonna you're gonna look at that I mean
0:42:32since rocket in the first movie is
0:42:34already off so well i'm not saying we
0:42:36need to we need to adhere to you know
0:42:37exactly the physical realm that
0:42:39live in but ya didn't like the arched
0:42:41back or like the really exaggerated face
0:42:44that he do sometimes I don't know it's
0:42:45just too much
0:42:46the series has always had a certain
0:42:47amount of grounding in reality and I
0:42:49think they kind of push against the
0:42:50boundaries of that and this once or
0:42:52twice I don't know that they talked
0:42:53about this is one of the few get the
0:42:55itunes one it's got some you know extras
0:42:57on there and there's one they talked
0:42:59about exactly what David mentioned which
0:43:00is that I guess I don't know maybe they
0:43:02changed the file to Pixar X and you
0:43:04couldn't open them in the app anymore
0:43:05but thats a computer job was it was a
0:43:07whole new hardware system to well yeah
0:43:10they had to totally totally redo them
0:43:12but also just for doing stuff like lots
0:43:13of they brought in a person who
0:43:15basically designed stuffed animals and
0:43:18said like how would you cut up the
0:43:19pattern for this they draw it on a piece
0:43:21on like a clay rendering but also a lot
0:43:23so they talked about how we know a lot
0:43:25so as a bear would like way this much
0:43:26but when he's walking around in the
0:43:28story he needs to look big like he's got
0:43:31this cut the cane and easy big fella and
0:43:34you have some gravitas and these kinds
0:43:35of wrinkles so I cannot pass on that I
0:43:38can you see what you mean what he's a
0:43:39little bit and techno know how do you
0:43:41guys feel about the elbows dancing
0:43:44because i loved it loved the dancing
0:43:45loved the dancing I'm it's a sucker for
0:43:48dancing and I think dancing is also
0:43:50constrained by how the woody power the
0:43:52buzz toy could move like it moves very
0:43:54quickly between the different frames but
0:43:56there's no pose that he's put in that
0:43:58like it but he doesn't get all like
0:44:00rubbery and bendy or anything he stay
0:44:01stiff plastic the whole time he just
0:44:03knows very quickly and you hear the
0:44:05chabad joints like clicky click click
0:44:07click with this little matador great
0:44:09it's ok I think we're the movement of
0:44:11the the realistic toy movement is
0:44:13realistic is that can be live toys
0:44:15moving around i think my favorite part
0:44:18of that is probably the can fashion show
0:44:21that comes a little bit later because
0:44:22it's already hysterical with his coming
0:44:25is coming out of modeling sailor suits
0:44:27to whatever it doesn't matter whatever
0:44:29it is but when he can't win you can't
0:44:31really strike the pose because his
0:44:33joints don't work that way and he
0:44:35doesn't have you will need twice as
0:44:37funny as it all the time when barbi what
0:44:39barbi jumps into his lap it'sit's he has
0:44:41never let her sniff little legs for
0:44:43flavor yeah it's dissenters yeah exactly
0:44:45so that stuff is great that stuff is
0:44:47great and that all right here's to sort
0:44:48of physics model that I expect to see in
0:44:50one of these movies that was like that
0:44:51the choice they had no
0:44:52no movies like to like in the leg movies
0:44:55that the choice was do we make the legos
0:44:57only move like Legos or do we make the
0:44:59legs bendy and I the paper like the
0:45:02lively debate about what is the right
0:45:03choice there with many test renders and
0:45:05everything that uh that is this is the
0:45:08arguments on both sides
0:45:09ok so then we end up in Bonnie's room
0:45:11and I loved what about Bonnie's room
0:45:13because after we see the toys getting
0:45:15all ravaged right all in the in the
0:45:17playroom and everything and then buzz
0:45:18gets tossed up on the windowsill and he
0:45:19sees the butterfly room and all the kids
0:45:21likes cuddling all the toys and being
0:45:24nice and playing and he's in hell over
0:45:25there with all the little toddlers
0:45:27anyways then it's like juxtaposed with
0:45:28that you go to Bonnie's room where the
0:45:30boys are again like having this kind of
0:45:32great playdate because she just found
0:45:34buzz sorry she just found woody hanging
0:45:38from the tree and so she takes him home
0:45:40and he's their kind of role playing now
0:45:42with all of bodies toys and Bonnie's
0:45:44room and what I like the best where I
0:45:45noticed the first thing in Bonnie's room
0:45:48is that not all of her toys were like
0:45:50girl pink princess sparkles like cake
0:45:53plate it wasn't all so overly you know a
0:45:58glorified I guess the best way to put it
0:46:02but it wasn't so like the regular like a
0:46:04girl's toy aisle
0:46:05it didn't look anything like that Ken's
0:46:07the one that uses a glitter marker not
0:46:09nonetheless exactly since i get from
0:46:12body as she gets whatever toys don't get
0:46:15sent to the daycare center so she's
0:46:16probably got kind of a mishmash of
0:46:18things that were deemed inappropriate
0:46:20for them it's a nice balance you know
0:46:22what I mean she has like the box of you
0:46:25know the spaceship box or the airplane
0:46:27box that she made and she has like the
0:46:28kitchen and coaches or dinosaurs it's
0:46:32just a very well-balanced normal kid
0:46:35room a lot like Andy great and that's
0:46:38really nice i like that i like that
0:46:39scene with the when she goes she goes to
0:46:42the bathroom and and buddy's like where
0:46:44are we and their answers well we're at a
0:46:46cafe perhaps us perhaps a new jersey
0:46:49recently very theories are better than
0:46:52you
0:46:52I had two notes in bodies room
0:46:54I had oh hey Kristen Schaal I had no
0:46:57idea who she was when this came out yeah
0:46:59yep always excited to hear your voice
0:47:00and my other note is oh hey totoro I had
0:47:03no idea who he was when this camera haha
0:47:05oh that's exciting to get to appreciate
0:47:08that seeing a whole new light we have
0:47:09helped you so my body's toys are so
0:47:11welcoming and loving it so nice i factor
0:47:13out like so
0:47:14Miyazaki's a big influence on many of
0:47:17the big principles that Pixar and we
0:47:19thank you in the credits all right um I
0:47:22kind of felt like the first time I saw
0:47:23this putting actual totoro in the movie
0:47:26it's like all right now we get it can
0:47:29you feel like I've got everything I get
0:47:32it
0:47:32the eclectic collection of toys
0:47:34abilities kids have that they would all
0:47:36actually have this kind of variety the
0:47:38only way kid that age is going to have
0:47:40Toros that they're like parents showed
0:47:42them totoro like because they love it
0:47:43right because it's not a contemporary
0:47:45movie for them the same way with the
0:47:47wooden way you have what he is it was
0:47:48like your parents or whatever but
0:47:49because this is a movie made by old
0:47:51people and they love miyazaki defined
0:47:53said what we just put it in the movie
0:47:54can we get the clarity that just put it
0:47:56in and he doesn't really have any lines
0:47:58are doing anything remotely totoro like
0:47:59which is for sure does he gets a big
0:48:01wide grin at the end okay but here's the
0:48:04thing he doesn't how old terrifyingly to
0:48:07this big part of Tyros very well we see
0:48:10we do see a man in the yard at the end I
0:48:12don't want to push this too far Steve
0:48:13get my back on this
0:48:15okay baby Bonnie's quote-unquote dad is
0:48:19from Japan we see a man
0:48:20well there's a dude in the yard at one
0:48:22point but i don't see clearly identified
0:48:23dad I'm just thinking that Sandy's dad
0:48:26oh my god you have to be very funny i'm
0:48:31with ya go to John you have to be from
0:48:32Japan it's me as i get himself he's
0:48:35there does miyazaki is on his bare it
0:48:39means Aggies a miserable man which we
0:48:41like from the kingdom of dreams and
0:48:42magical I hope he's always at work with
0:48:44his apron on reason bodies adorable
0:48:48house with her adorable toys including
0:48:50uh including the dinosaur and the kind
0:48:55of smushed doll which is great but he
0:48:57gets a chance to get played with again
0:48:58and he likes it
0:48:59that's an important part yes right he's
0:49:02overjoyed and he's a little conflicted
0:49:03because
0:49:05he has been to play with in a long time
0:49:07and he's about to go off to college we
0:49:08probably will never be played with again
0:49:10and he was kind of a hero again Bonnie
0:49:12kinda like put him in that hero role
0:49:14like since you saved us right that's
0:49:16like pretty significant for Wendy
0:49:18there's also a really good bit of sort
0:49:20of storytelling here where we get the
0:49:24address for a Bonnie's house on the
0:49:27post-it note which comes into play later
0:49:29presumably that's what he writes on the
0:49:31post-it note that he puts on the box at
0:49:32the end but it doesn't need to be there
0:49:36I mean he could have said anything on
0:49:37that no turbo or you know maybe we could
0:49:40have just assumed that you know his my
0:49:43and his mom told more bodies wasn't sent
0:49:45him there but you've got those nice
0:49:48little sort of those those early
0:49:50foreshadowing that expects sort of
0:49:52explain how things went
0:49:53just a little extra detail it was not
0:49:55not really necessary but it's a nice
0:49:56touch i think you get the clown at their
0:49:58word the windows and Bonnie's house too
0:50:00that's around with that the at Slater's
0:50:01a little bit later that's coming up
0:50:03yeah okay Jason lead us into sunnyside
0:50:06after-hours yes
0:50:08sunnyside after dark where the where
0:50:10there's the sea and say gambling buzzes
0:50:14found out and put in lots of was
0:50:18gradually revealed to not be a friendly
0:50:20bear after all but the the boss of this
0:50:23area and but and Buzz put in the chair
0:50:26we get the site of ham squirting a bunch
0:50:29of blocks and a weeble king out of his
0:50:30belly button which I find fairly
0:50:32disturbing right when they're all
0:50:34ravaged after my time
0:50:36yeah this is so we find out that they've
0:50:38been the new toys get stuck with the
0:50:40most dangerous of the rooms because the
0:50:44other toys don't want to be torn limb
0:50:46from limb by the by the youngest kids
0:50:48and that that's the way it's gonna be
0:50:51but either one thing before you get out
0:50:52of the the snack machine is the next
0:50:55this is a new extension of the toy store
0:50:58universities toys here at the daycare
0:51:00have got have sort of like figured out
0:51:04their toys to the point where they
0:51:05realize it's important to save manuals
0:51:07for all the toys you got a little
0:51:09librarian to ice that has the manuals
0:51:11because the manuals tell you how to
0:51:13reset things and stuff like that into
0:51:14this information isn't just for like for
0:51:16the purposes of repairing but also it
0:51:18gives you power
0:51:19r2 you know it's it's it's like
0:51:21discovering how the human body works in
0:51:22the building weapons to you know and
0:51:24flicked the most damage to them right so
0:51:25they hit they have they have the manuals
0:51:27they can disable buzz because they have
0:51:30the thing that tells you how to switch
0:51:31them how to be in our races memory or
0:51:33whatever in switching back into other
0:51:34mode which is farther than any other
0:51:36movies have gone with the toys really
0:51:38recognizing their toys kind of like the
0:51:39Enlightenment where you realize that
0:51:41humans animals too and we can study them
0:51:43by taking them apart and you know stuff
0:51:44like that on don't go too far but you
0:51:46can keep like and they can keep
0:51:48stretching this like a toy story 4 how
0:51:50far they want to go with toys realized
0:51:52like realizing they're manufactured like
0:51:54there's a factory where but stamping out
0:51:55a bunch of toys at what point do they
0:51:57come to life like oh no the factory
0:51:59settings and again and again that plays
0:52:01into the whole divine comedy thing it it
0:52:04does feel like the prettiest the prison
0:52:05library to write this is the you know
0:52:08they've controlled the information
0:52:10they've got all of it they can use it as
0:52:12power you know they know their toys but
0:52:14this is this you write this is going a
0:52:16little bit further where they're there
0:52:17now able to shut down or reboot their
0:52:20enemies to make them compliant which is
0:52:24what they are gonna look out a break
0:52:25them apart like I know if they know how
0:52:27to go together
0:52:28there's a fairly fairly lengthy seen
0:52:30here before we get back to Bonnie's
0:52:31where the toys basically realize that
0:52:33they're in prison first of all they
0:52:34realized that and he was in fact going
0:52:36to put them in the Attic because mrs.
0:52:38Potato Head
0:52:38I is variety and I wonder whether all
0:52:41the metaphysics and that you're
0:52:42complaining that kite went up a little
0:52:43too fast and now she's looking to her
0:52:45eyeball it's another world building
0:52:47thing where they decided to any
0:52:48instruments TI instantaneous Potato Head
0:52:51I there's no range for that she just has
0:52:54her ability to see and that's good
0:52:56that's an important plot point because
0:52:58that allows them to get information
0:52:59about Andy's presence and if he's left
0:53:02for college yet that they otherwise
0:53:03wouldn't know it's pretty obvious what
0:53:05it is but that's why right what that's
0:53:08why she doesn't have that I but later we
0:53:09learned that all of mr. potato heads
0:53:11pieces apparently have an independent
0:53:13life of their own which opens all sorts
0:53:15of disturbing avenues of the gathered
0:53:19they they spend some time sort of
0:53:21realizing their situation and we get the
0:53:23first scene when
0:53:25when buzz is in the vending machine
0:53:28where we see big baby as the enforcer
0:53:30and i just want to give props for
0:53:32whoever came up with big baby as a horse
0:53:34or because the baby is brilliant such an
0:53:36ironic thing to have a baby doll that
0:53:38lady I yeah that lazy eyes so creepy no
0:53:41good and we see how he got it and end in
0:53:44the end big baby ends up being kind of a
0:53:46sympathetic character who has been sort
0:53:47of a sort of duped into becoming the you
0:53:50know going over to the dark side but
0:53:53many throws temper down the rocky yeah
0:53:55yes he does a food there's definitely a
0:53:58lot of all modules in this moment but
0:54:00boy was he creepy man he is a he strikes
0:54:03a figure and big baby sound is just the
0:54:05baby sound so it's not exactly he's not
0:54:08with your mind all over its body to
0:54:10that's totally what we do to all the
0:54:12baby dolls that I think those are tagged
0:54:13recent studies show the best big baby
0:54:16scene is when he's sitting on the swing
0:54:18looking up like maybe even got my heads
0:54:22are watching it again as a family and my
0:54:24daughter said why is he looking at the
0:54:26moon
0:54:27like that's just what he does and David
0:54:30out there every night all by himself on
0:54:33the swingset looking at the moon
0:54:36well if you buy its head will rotate 180
0:54:38degrees and you do writing you do it
0:54:42into your soul
0:54:43how is this rated G Money god especially
0:54:47when you get to what has got to be the
0:54:50filthiest line in any Pixar movie which
0:54:52is hey no one takes my wife's mouth
0:54:54except me with the second filthy is
0:54:58probably being I told you kids stay out
0:55:00of my butt both for mr. Potato yeah I
0:55:04feel like maybe they gave Don Rickles a
0:55:06little more leeway in this movie and ran
0:55:08with it
0:55:09can we talk about lots of origin yes now
0:55:11we're back in Daisy's room and we hear
0:55:13that we hear the tragic backstory yes we
0:55:15get the get the wonderful bud luckey
0:55:17doing another fantastic voice understand
0:55:21this as a clown
0:55:22yeah so you all seem bounden I'm sure he
0:55:25did the music and singing and bound and
0:55:27I think he's a an animator it's just
0:55:29because the price was a corporal but he
0:55:31has such a wonderful voice and he's so
0:55:33perfect for the clone the so we learned
0:55:35that lots of was left behind lots of the
0:55:38clown
0:55:38big baby were left behind at a rest stop
0:55:40by their person and then they walk and
0:55:43it's very sad they walk all of the all
0:55:45of the way back from who knows how far
0:55:47away and finally months later reach
0:55:50their their their person and lots of
0:55:54climbs up to her window to discover that
0:55:56she's playing with a replacement lot so
0:55:58that her parents bought that about her
0:56:00huh
0:56:01you might not even know is different we
0:56:03did the same thing for my son's favorite
0:56:04stuffed animal we bought two of them had
0:56:06a backup like come on what what is wrong
0:56:09with daisies parents that they were out
0:56:11and they didn't realize that her kid
0:56:12like their kids I know her favorite toys
0:56:15like in the park i would have driven
0:56:16back to that park and gotten them you
0:56:19know any interesting because he's
0:56:20probably related to andy and some way
0:56:22maybe maybe they had backup system
0:56:24described back just took it home and I
0:56:26am so protective of atoms like special
0:56:29toys
0:56:29even though they change every single day
0:56:31I make sure that he has them because i
0:56:33don't want to hear it you know even if
0:56:35you let them take all those toys out of
0:56:37the car which first off that's a lot of
0:56:40stuff to be bringing out of a car door
0:56:41rest stop and then not check to bring
0:56:44them back in i get there distracted she
0:56:45fell asleep whatever but that's a lot of
0:56:48stuff I know
0:56:49yeah there's a lot of stuff yeah it
0:56:51happens people leave things behind their
0:56:53litter bug that's what they are just
0:56:55this and about his transformer Tory we
0:56:57left a baby doll behind when we were in
0:56:59Hawaii with jamie and we we almost
0:57:02missed our flight back because we drove
0:57:04like an extra 40 minutes to go get the
0:57:06doll because that's your your good
0:57:07parents that's why it's the AG's parents
0:57:09their crap yeah somebody on the story
0:57:12team had a rough experience I think know
0:57:15that informs all of these stories
0:57:17well you know actual toys aren't alive
0:57:19so in real life
0:57:20what he's in jax I another one to
0:57:22consider trying to tell a kid that you
0:57:24know you just give them a try we found a
0:57:26mirror does assuming you've got one to
0:57:27replace it with yeah yeah well think i
0:57:29had two is one one is none think ahead
0:57:32by like when you pick up your shipping
0:57:33kid off of the pile of toys you also
0:57:35scooped up yeah sometimes herein are you
0:57:37know the worst part of our backup our
0:57:39backup thing for my son is that at one
0:57:42point he had school pictures and my wife
0:57:44wanted him to take it with a little
0:57:45stuffed animal and she made him take it
0:57:48with the replacement because it was a
0:57:49nice
0:57:50condition doesn't know we have this
0:57:51picture of him with his toy that's not
0:57:53really his tour we look at it like
0:57:54that's the imposter
0:57:56I mean he took a picture with in shiny
0:57:59new one then came home with switch
0:58:01immediately back to the one who never
0:58:02know
0:58:02ok holiday curmudgeon when did you win
0:58:06don't tell your child that you had lied
0:58:08to him much much much later so you don't
0:58:11care anymore he knows your monster
0:58:12why would you tell it because it's a
0:58:14funny story like this picture is John's
0:58:16all about the truth
0:58:17how about the truth is I a bad i can't
0:58:19believe this
0:58:20tell the truth so we get into the escape
0:58:22plan now yeah alright so the phone the
0:58:26phone with the the voice same guy who
0:58:28narrates the newsreel in the incredibles
0:58:31actually is the is the voice of the
0:58:34tough guy on the phone with Newton i
0:58:36love when the phone just bumps what his
0:58:38leg our dog do that when he wants
0:58:40something from the refrigerator
0:58:41it's so cute you're not sure of the
0:58:43phone can even talk with you just kinda
0:58:44has that like you know that smile on
0:58:46that face and this is really this is
0:58:47really pushing far as far as far back as
0:58:50I think they've ever pushed with a with
0:58:52a toy that didn't continue like a slinky
0:58:53may be really old but that phone like I
0:58:55remember that phone but it didn't live
0:58:57on like unlike the slinky and the other
0:58:59things like it didnt the phone state
0:59:01like they made that phone and we all had
0:59:03it when we were kids if you're old
0:59:04enough but it never continued into this
0:59:06day unlike all the other thing what are
0:59:08you talking about that phone still
0:59:09exists
0:59:10really they keep making still nobody
0:59:11that phone i have pictures of my kid
0:59:13pulling that phone around but it's a
0:59:15great degree dock thing it's a throwback
0:59:17the parents you know
0:59:18also it makes no sense to children
0:59:19anymore because it doesn't cry what is
0:59:21it really that is it's not the fuck I I
0:59:24never had one but it was in every
0:59:26kindergarten and fortune favored visited
0:59:29and even even when my kids went into to
0:59:32pre-kindergarten everything they had
0:59:34them so you know in there it's just not
0:59:37necessarily in your house
0:59:38yeah Adam totally knows what a regular
0:59:40phone is I don't know I know why you
0:59:42know be reincarnated and weird or
0:59:43something that he knows because you have
0:59:45one sitting there hogging the place
0:59:47underneath to television where AV
0:59:48equipment
0:59:49well yeah but I mean the first time we
0:59:51showed him that he knew what to do
0:59:53that's weird right yeah so the phone guy
0:59:55good details what all the issues are the
0:59:57escape to help them get out and then we
0:59:59we leave
0:59:59we leave
1:00:00we have this whole whole escape plan
1:00:05the tortilla is gotten in order to get
1:00:08into mr. potato head out of his
1:00:09out-of-the-box spend the night in the
1:00:12box just just me and sand and Lincoln
1:00:14Logs I don't long for me to torture some
1:00:17information out of Ken get to get the
1:00:19information from ken so gracefully he
1:00:22was magnificent not the narrow not
1:00:25destroying all that is vintage until we
1:00:29finally breaks we already talked to ken
1:00:31fashion show which is very quiet musical
1:00:33hog
1:00:34yes quiet music along its they have a
1:00:36lot of good visual human here obviously
1:00:37the tortilla is all visual humor like
1:00:39that the you know it's just funny to put
1:00:41the watching doing that but one of my
1:00:42favorite bits is so it's amazing they
1:00:45can you know drawback from the well of
1:00:47the previous movies gags know just
1:00:49enough like just you know not putting on
1:00:51too much so here we've got we got buzz
1:00:53back to like the Space Ranger there
1:00:55doesn't know he's a toy right which have
1:00:56gone back to that well many many times
1:00:58they'd only not here but there's enough
1:00:59time for maybe two or three little gags
1:01:01with it and some of them are exquisitely
1:01:03done my favorite is they put the plastic
1:01:05you know tub over him as a prison and
1:01:07sit on top of it and he whips out his
1:01:10laser draws a circle on the plastic runs
1:01:13into it bounces off of it and then from
1:01:15the foreground two people come together
1:01:17in front of him bouncing off of
1:01:19continued the scene like they don't even
1:01:20do well on it is just the gag is just
1:01:22like a transition from cine because we
1:01:24know he's going to bounce off we don't
1:01:25need to see that gay again we've seen
1:01:27that same joke again but they do the
1:01:28visual gag as a background two
1:01:30characters talking about the continuing
1:01:31escape and I was just like perfect that
1:01:33was just the perfect amount of stuff it
1:01:35was a good gag and they were moving on
1:01:37before the gag even went off i also like
1:01:39the the lighting in this like Marlon
1:01:41you're bringing up lighting earlier i
1:01:42think all these night scenes just would
1:01:44not have been as possible in the other
1:01:47movies they were the just so dynamic and
1:01:50exquisite and I that look the look at
1:01:53the linoleum at night when they're all
1:01:55in their little cages and the way that's
1:01:57the light shining in from the window
1:01:59above them it's it's just really dynamic
1:02:02and fantastic
1:02:04they do they do so much i mean the one
1:02:06who's flying on the kite off the roof
1:02:08and you know he's kind of colored green
1:02:10because of the light being filtered
1:02:11through the green
1:02:13so much stuff like that the lighting
1:02:14stone and the nice thing is i mean like
1:02:16you notice if you're looking at the kind
1:02:17of looking at the kind of nerd out but i
1:02:19don't think they're over the top with it
1:02:20i don't think there they are showing off
1:02:22but they're doing a very solid away and
1:02:24I think it really helps the story that's
1:02:25that's what makes the middle so fun for
1:02:27me is how moody it is but how how silly
1:02:29it is too it's a great combination and
1:02:31there's so many good lines to in the
1:02:33whole Middle escape seen it's just it's
1:02:36just great
1:02:36yes sir well-groomed man the pigeon the
1:02:39pigeon love the picture pigeon shows up
1:02:41and like it just sits there yeah don't
1:02:43need to do anything you just see a
1:02:44pigeon you just see a picture and
1:02:45tortilla you know what's going down but
1:02:47he's been acting like a pigeon most
1:02:49pigeon pigeon yeah i'd pay you know
1:02:52there are other there are other objects
1:02:54that mr. Potato Head can stick his
1:02:56things into radiology guys ready gene
1:03:00needs now mr. cucumber head and this
1:03:02isn't a towhead seems awfully pleased
1:03:04she like that jackal so tall and skinny
1:03:10was the line you will not believe what
1:03:13I've been ripped up and we should
1:03:18totally talk about elbows oh yeah so
1:03:20buzzes buzzes accidentally rebooted into
1:03:23spanish language mode and he he begins
1:03:26to speak spanish and his a section 444
1:03:31jesse is also revealed in greater detail
1:03:34here with his with his dancing and stuff
1:03:37yeah he doesn't quite a great pasa Doble
1:03:39there i love Italy is voiced by somebody
1:03:43different because that's yeah look how
1:03:44it would be to it would not be placed by
1:03:46the home-improvement guy i love that
1:03:49now I like that this is a this is just
1:03:51one of those things it's just totally
1:03:52wacky like it is i remember seeing this
1:03:55in the theater and be like okay that's
1:03:56not what I expected at all like I don't
1:03:58know how that works in the world i don't
1:04:00know i don't care it's very funny that
1:04:03he's a you know he's paid to be really
1:04:05you know sold in a few different regions
1:04:07and so he needs to speak Spanish as well
1:04:09as englischen and he still buzzed he's
1:04:11still super helpful you know like he's
1:04:12all he's already opened up the doors
1:04:14hero B&O makes sense that there be some
1:04:16weird esoteric means to switch in
1:04:18between mode reduces the recess real
1:04:21finger than five seconds we have a
1:04:22little play kitchen that goes in the
1:04:24mouth
1:04:24languages and the kids love nothing more
1:04:25now than ever that is to change the
1:04:27language in here and say all these
1:04:28different things you know it's it's like
1:04:30they had a big brainstorming thing of
1:04:31like things about toys things about toys
1:04:34that we have not covered before i'm one
1:04:35of the things about toys is a lot of
1:04:36them come with different language modes
1:04:38and so they decided to work that was one
1:04:40of the ones that but you know bubble to
1:04:41the top and work down at the movies not
1:04:43going to be major plot point we're not
1:04:44going to be a buzz stuck that way we
1:04:46have to kill him it's just gonna be yet
1:04:47another funny gag like i was amazed
1:04:50watching this movie I'd forgotten that
1:04:51how solid all of the writing is every
1:04:54scene every line nothing wasted very
1:04:57clever in a way that has unfortunately
1:04:59not been true of some of the more recent
1:05:00pixar movies where there are some things
1:05:02that are just sort of you know conveying
1:05:04story moving the plot along
1:05:05whereas this this feels like is the 18
1:05:08back again really nailing and so that
1:05:09the funny spanish buzz thing does not
1:05:13derail the a story it just adds flavor
1:05:16and they they picked the five best lines
1:05:18of the five best gags and it just makes
1:05:20the whole movie better
1:05:21well and you always have something
1:05:23something goes wrong like you see the
1:05:25perfect heist they plan the perfect guys
1:05:27something's really have to improvise and
1:05:29this is a delightful thing to go wrong
1:05:31and it's ridiculous
1:05:33that's that's why i love it i have a
1:05:35note here my next note in in in the
1:05:37notes is is just a big baby is super
1:05:39creepy because we've gotten to the point
1:05:41also a big baby is out on the swing
1:05:43looking up at the moon staring and I
1:05:45think they play the CID music to when
1:05:47big babies like walking towards them
1:05:49while they didn't when the big baby just
1:05:51sitting out there sort of looking at the
1:05:53moon you feel sympathy for even though
1:05:55it's wish tell ya as long as we know the
1:05:57back North easily like a dating but then
1:06:00as soon as soon as they make the noise
1:06:02and that head flips around currently
1:06:04with that I that creepy I oh man
1:06:08such a great creepy moment creepy doll
1:06:10that always follows you
1:06:11yeah nice a good good Barbie line here
1:06:15authority should derive from the consent
1:06:16of the governed not from the threat of
1:06:17force
1:06:18yeah Thank You Barbie I wonder how many
1:06:20kids are going to see toy story when
1:06:22their kids right and then learn about
1:06:23that and school later and be like at
1:06:25some toys story right
1:06:27yeah okay so much extra mattel paid to
1:06:31have them say that line
1:06:32did you guys make her say something
1:06:33smart man isn't was hard i doubt mattel
1:06:38ask them to do that ya know they do
1:06:40pretty good down when I was the pits are
1:06:41ya
1:06:42they understand that barbie is barbie
1:06:44and like they have to embrace that but
1:06:46they constantly are working to subvert
1:06:48as well given the first movie when she
1:06:50appears like in the credits into gets
1:06:51tired of smiling and her cheeks are
1:06:53killing her whatever like just there's
1:06:55always an acknowledgement that despite
1:06:57Barbie being at her heart a barbie girl
1:06:59right
1:07:00it's she still like the demands of
1:07:02filling that role like its work and she
1:07:05isn't just that we're you know beaten up
1:07:07Kendall she stuck up for all her friends
1:07:09she like you know went into jail because
1:07:10you of what you believed in and then she
1:07:12you know she tried to switch sides
1:07:14didn't say always my dream house no
1:07:16description manipulated can like pretty
1:07:18expertly and yes great she got the
1:07:20manual she put on the suit she forgot to
1:07:22take off her heels but you know it's
1:07:24okay this is what we leave we get here
1:07:26our conference it's a confrontation at
1:07:28the dumpster they broke me and the
1:07:30sodium lights of the dumpster speaking
1:07:31of lighting everything is yellow in the
1:07:33CM this is a there at the dumpster and
1:07:36they have slid down there and they're
1:07:37they're making their escape but Lotso
1:07:39was there and big baby and the telephone
1:07:41to get tortured and broken broken broken
1:07:43? little again G rating
1:07:47yeah they were all just trash waiting to
1:07:49be thrown away
1:07:50that's the that's the message here just
1:07:53waiting to be better than he yells that
1:07:54like I'm like okay this is the darkest
1:07:56never been
1:07:58we're entering the dark the dark stuff
1:08:00now this this is hell yea Somali winds
1:08:03up in the dumpster and Ken saves the day
1:08:05as I recall the first of all you he he
1:08:07turns on him and then lots of throws him
1:08:09over to the the other group sunnyside
1:08:12could be cool and groovy they turn big
1:08:14baby by revealing that data revealing
1:08:16the David had not raised a big baby but
1:08:18I replaced lotsa right yet and there's
1:08:21that heartbreaking scene where they
1:08:22throw down the Daisy pendant and big
1:08:24baby looks down and says mom had a
1:08:27dependent so perfect such a cheap
1:08:28plastic little thing that always comes
1:08:29with the toys with like the handwriting
1:08:31scrawled on like not and then lots of
1:08:33just brutally smashes it with his stick
1:08:35yeah I wouldn't work those things are
1:08:37tough yeah yeah and then of course when
1:08:40one slot so goes into the dumpster and
1:08:41then everyone is starting to make their
1:08:44escape of course the peace
1:08:46the planet guy gets stuck and even even
1:08:48what he's like a really crying out loud
1:08:50so that they may end up in the garbage
1:08:53stream there in the trash truck they
1:08:55have to there's an adventure an action
1:08:58when they're trying to get things out of
1:08:59the people who are trapped in the trash
1:09:01truck and all of that buzz glows ya glow
1:09:04in the dark he used to just glow in
1:09:05fluorescent lighting I think that may
1:09:06actually be a bit of a continuity how
1:09:08like they're charged up you put them in
1:09:10light that charges them and then in
1:09:12total darkness they will emit light yeah
1:09:13but where is he recharging he wasn't
1:09:15reach up during the day during the day
1:09:16it doesn't last that long
1:09:17now it's okay one line of dialogue also
1:09:20I i love the garbage Wally but I think
1:09:22they're even better in this one that the
1:09:23the the detail on the garbage stuff is
1:09:26amazing
1:09:26throughout all of this once they get to
1:09:28the dump I have to say I'm really sorry
1:09:29but I totally laughed when the Pizza
1:09:31Planet aliens got plowed by the oh yeah
1:09:35I physically located lovely fashion it
1:09:36was just that everyone know we're just
1:09:38it was a good it was a good way to get
1:09:41people to stop thinking about what is
1:09:43the obvious sort of deus ex machina for
1:09:46the end of the movie because you do stop
1:09:49thinking about them because they plowed
1:09:50away and you're not really attached to
1:09:51them and there's so many of them and
1:09:53they're kind of interchangeable in their
1:09:54plastic and it's done for gagging you
1:09:56and like if if you weren't so caught up
1:09:59with out with the plot of our heroes
1:10:00going down the convertible you may think
1:10:02like I bet you know that you would
1:10:06predict the ending
1:10:06it's gonna be big clods going to be
1:10:08those guys like it's so obvious in
1:10:09hindsight but because they dispose of
1:10:11them and get them off the scene and a
1:10:12comic gag and then immediately bring you
1:10:15into this this peril for our heroes it
1:10:17we you know for the first time watching
1:10:18movie
1:10:19it worked like up you know that clock
1:10:22comes down as soon as they did you
1:10:23realize what's gonna happen but not
1:10:24before I don't know if anyone else
1:10:26yeah predicted but I didn't and I
1:10:27thought that was an amazing bit of movie
1:10:29yes yes simply add a sex club and dude
1:10:32there's so much momentum and long Merlin
1:10:36you're totally right the detail when you
1:10:37think that they had to build every
1:10:39little bit of the garbage yeah i mean
1:10:40that we think about yes exactly like all
1:10:42the stuff it just it synthesis better
1:10:45this is nerd stuff but I mean you know
1:10:47we talked about this back and up the
1:10:48episode about toy story one about even
1:10:50back then 1995 the baseboards in the
1:10:52house were kind of scuffed and this one
1:10:54I don't know maybe I'll sit closer and i
1:10:55have my glasses on but man I was just
1:10:57noticing all of the just extraordinary
1:10:59Mary unnecessary amount of ridiculous
1:11:01detail and then you get think about what
1:11:03it would be to render that scene after
1:11:06they've gone through the shredder to
1:11:07render all of those pieces can you just
1:11:09yeah Kevin it's just it's mine it is it
1:11:12is mind-boggling
1:11:13so there's a there's an exciting uh
1:11:16adventure that happens on the little
1:11:18conveyor and they save lots o showing
1:11:21that they're good people and lots of
1:11:23immediately throws them to the Wolves
1:11:24because he has not had a very bad toy
1:11:26and that leads to your favorite thing
1:11:29which is a the slide into death in the
1:11:31video incinerator a light at the end of
1:11:35the tunnel is not an oncoming train yep
1:11:38i was already crying through the whole
1:11:40inferno sequence
1:11:42oh god you've got them running on the
1:11:45conveyor that's moving and they're just
1:11:46running stay in place yeah humanity
1:11:48horse my right and and the whole thing
1:11:50seems impossible
1:11:51yeah totally and it just takes the
1:11:53expressions I mean it's I think mostly
1:11:55wordless and just the expressions and
1:11:57physical movements they're grabbing
1:11:59hands I think there's some kind of like
1:12:00some kind of heat waves like oh you know
1:12:02is this is really happening this is yet
1:12:04and the dawning realization and little
1:12:06pairings off of the relationship you
1:12:08holding hands so what so what pixar had
1:12:10done with with all the movies before
1:12:12this is it had it had built up enough
1:12:14experience with how they tell stories
1:12:16that I that the only way you could get
1:12:19an audience to believe that they really
1:12:20were gonna kill the noise is to have
1:12:22pixar beware Pixar is and say you know
1:12:24what
1:12:25Pixar would kill them pits are would
1:12:26have it end this way because like it if
1:12:29this was the very first movie pics are
1:12:30made like all the toys aren't gonna die
1:12:32of course but given two pictures body it
1:12:34were cleaning up this business I think
1:12:36they have a was up before after this I
1:12:38forget it's kind of a kind of blends
1:12:40together things after just one more
1:12:41night when i watch this for the very
1:12:43first time I you know it wasn't like I
1:12:45was like again it was all of course
1:12:47they're gonna be saved like it is
1:12:48conceivable that those toys are going to
1:12:50go into that Center entirely conceivable
1:12:52I as they're holding hands and then the
1:12:55heat waves started coming and and that's
1:12:57why i was just bawling my eyes out
1:12:59because it was so impossible how are
1:13:02they gonna get out of and that shot that
1:13:03shot of Andy the word Andy on his boot
1:13:06that yeah
1:13:07that is telling bullseye to stop
1:13:09struggling stop struggling bullseye
1:13:11but although it's just seeing Andy
1:13:12written as boudoir like and he's never
1:13:14gonna see you again I like God and and
1:13:17again the thing that wasn't hitting me
1:13:19and you know it's like we said at the
1:13:20beginning it a lot of the the tears in
1:13:22this are tears of joy for me in that in
1:13:26that first moment the first time I saw
1:13:27it wasn't that they were gonna die
1:13:29it was that they were together it was
1:13:31that acceptance in that that connection
1:13:33they all had and that's why you can buy
1:13:35it is like well they all went out but
1:13:37they went out together and the lesson is
1:13:38like together together till the end
1:13:40right you like he's not as if you're
1:13:41like this can't be happening like know
1:13:43this could be happening is because the
1:13:45toys except that's what the thing is it
1:13:46twice its struggle right for the
1:13:47answer's no joy in that it is crushing
1:13:49its heart crushing oh it's the same
1:13:52never bothered me that much i don't
1:13:54think i ever thought there was any
1:13:55chance they would possibly meltdown all
1:13:57those toys i think i think that a big
1:13:58part of its the music i think i believe
1:14:00it's rainy Newman wrote the score i
1:14:02think but that you know it's funny that
1:14:04was that was it everything were
1:14:06reforming painting but there's a bit
1:14:08about you can't you can't sing songs
1:14:10from nobody remembers songs from Marvel
1:14:11movies but I can hear that song that
1:14:13bomb bomb i can see here that in my head
1:14:16right now and its its its ponderous and
1:14:19it's you know and the thing is my kid
1:14:21has seen this movie a million times I've
1:14:22seen it a million times and should be
1:14:24named for this phenomenon where you know
1:14:25it's all going to turn out fine but
1:14:27you're still you're still kind of
1:14:29bristling your seat a little bit it's
1:14:30very it's very very uncomfortable there
1:14:33is that someone made a youtube video of
1:14:35cutting the movie where they stopped it
1:14:37and it just faded to black right before
1:14:40the clocking down haha and they showed
1:14:43it to their mother and they just stopped
1:14:46the movie right there and let it hang
1:14:48and they let her think for like a day
1:14:50that that's how it ended and she was
1:14:53devastated and they filmed the whole
1:14:55thing is pretty great but wait mom we're
1:14:56going to show you the real end which is
1:14:57actually worse
1:14:59yeah and the clock comes down and saves
1:15:01tony soprano and it's great nights
1:15:04people
1:15:05this was a little intense as i recall
1:15:07for my son in the theater he was very
1:15:09concerned
1:15:10here's my question for you guys because
1:15:12I find missing very affecting the fact
1:15:14that they join hands it it destroyed me
1:15:16in the movie theater it made
1:15:18reluctant to watch it again but but let
1:15:21me ask this question is this scene
1:15:24necessary did it is this is this scene
1:15:26where they all are
1:15:28uh giving in to the fact that they're
1:15:31going to be incinerated until they're
1:15:32saved at the last moment and it is the
1:15:34we're all going to die we've accepted
1:15:37our deaths
1:15:38we've accepted our mortality now let's
1:15:40now let's go into oblivion together it's
1:15:44an interesting choice for Pixar to put
1:15:45this in the movie i would say this is by
1:15:47far the single darkest thing in any
1:15:50Pixar movie and I did find myself
1:15:52wondering did they need to go this far
1:15:54or not what do you think I think they
1:15:57did if they were intending to put in the
1:16:01whole divine comedy analogy which is why
1:16:03I think that's there because you have to
1:16:06have you have to have an inferno there
1:16:08and you have to have the possibility of
1:16:10death and something beyond and you have
1:16:14to have that that salvation that they
1:16:16could have they could have had a wacky
1:16:18of trying to save people and pulling
1:16:20people out and saving them by the seat
1:16:21of their pants from the fireball seen
1:16:23and that's not what they have fun day
1:16:25give out have been funny they give up
1:16:27and accept death
1:16:30yes in this yes they have they have to
1:16:32accept the consequences of them being
1:16:33good because they save face a lot so
1:16:35that's why they don't get out because
1:16:37they you know they go back for lots of a
1:16:39save them and like it's it's kind of
1:16:41thing like being good sometimes has
1:16:43consequences and you have to decide
1:16:45you're going to be the kind of presently
1:16:46lots or die you're gonna be the kind of
1:16:47person to save them out and just even
1:16:49more broadly just the basic outline of
1:16:51the story where you have to go all the
1:16:53way down to the pit before you have the
1:16:54khazar catharsis of being saved and sort
1:16:57of the Dumont where you you know get
1:16:59giving away the body the casual like
1:17:01lead out of the movie but you have to
1:17:03bring them down to the lowest level to
1:17:05have the highest high and like i said i
1:17:07think the claw saving you know like it
1:17:09is kind of a little bit of a cheat but i
1:17:11think i think they pull it off like they
1:17:13pull it off they bring them down to the
1:17:14lowest possible low so low that they're
1:17:16not struggling anymore and then they
1:17:18pull pull them out of that it is relief
1:17:20and I think it allows the end of the
1:17:22movie on the lawn just sort of relax
1:17:24right smooth out it's a clock come and
1:17:26pick them out let's see change that up a
1:17:27little bit you decided instead that the
1:17:29shredder is going to be the the thing
1:17:31we need to avoid so they never got the
1:17:32magnet stuff if you pull them out with
1:17:35the the club before they went into the
1:17:37shredder that would have felt like a
1:17:39thrill ride but it wouldn't have had the
1:17:41same kind of Spielberg in thrust that we
1:17:46have with something where you this is it
1:17:48it's all over it's done it's done like
1:17:49you know
1:17:50christoph waltz has found you under the
1:17:51board's game over like that and then I'd
1:17:54like that i agree with John I think then
1:17:55that sets up the what phone should
1:17:58probably be the last twist or a movie
1:18:00but it sets out in that ability of just
1:18:02hit his head is between the eyes with
1:18:04with with the touching and then and then
1:18:07finish it off with a nice little dessert
1:18:09meant of the funny credits but i-i-i
1:18:12don't know they needed to go there but i
1:18:14think i'm glad they did
1:18:15it's a it's like a savior moment you
1:18:17know they didn't save themselves they
1:18:19they didn't escape themselves over there
1:18:21you know with their ingenuity that
1:18:23they've been showing throughout the
1:18:24movie where they can work together and
1:18:25do stuff we've seen that over and over
1:18:27again if they just did that again it
1:18:29wouldn't have felt as as you guys were
1:18:31saying as cathartic is like you know
1:18:32uplifting and and and kind of a yeah
1:18:36just save your esque where you know your
1:18:38lifted up into the light
1:18:40you know that bright light of the crane
1:18:42turns onto them and it's lifted up and
1:18:44then they poured out you realize also as
1:18:47a consequence of them saving those
1:18:48aliens like that you know their wacky
1:18:50and their weird but they brought they
1:18:51brought them into their family and they
1:18:53said we accept you as your weird little
1:18:55alien things and you can be part of our
1:18:56toy group and that you know several
1:18:58movies later turned out to be really
1:18:59important thing that they did and it
1:19:01turns out to be morning when they're
1:19:03dropped and you know it's just you saved
1:19:04our lives we are eternally grateful you
1:19:06know that that moment that that great is
1:19:09needed to be the payoff for the whole
1:19:13thing you know they couldn't they could
1:19:15have been grateful to something else
1:19:16they had they had to they could have
1:19:18just done it themselves they had to have
1:19:20someone else kind of save them also the
1:19:23whole the whole hand holding the circle
1:19:25uh I think just solidifies how important
1:19:28it is that all the toys stay together
1:19:30and you've got the scene coming up where
1:19:32it's possible once again that what he
1:19:34might be separated from the rest of them
1:19:35and I think that just sets that up i
1:19:38mean that none that adds to your concern
1:19:40that maybe he's going to college and
1:19:41it's a little okay when you're shaking
1:19:44just as this is not goodbye but then
1:19:45that just makes it all the more poignant
1:19:47when they end up together in the end and
1:19:49and the movie is shot through with the
1:19:51stages of grief to I mean you've got the
1:19:53denial at the beginning of them saying
1:19:56well we're still we're still in these
1:19:57toys right and an anger because he was
1:20:00gonna throw them out they're convinced
1:20:01he's gonna throw them out and then the
1:20:03bargaining to try and get to a better
1:20:05part of the day care and depression
1:20:07because they realize where they are and
1:20:09and even you finally have the acceptance
1:20:11at the end and then they're saved our
1:20:13david has a lot of theories about this
1:20:15movie I've thought a lot about this
1:20:17movie I'm not sure necessarily this has
1:20:19to be there i will say well I enjoyed it
1:20:21personally I you know I could I could
1:20:24see a movie without this scene i did
1:20:27want to point out that i think this is
1:20:29possibly the only scene I've ever
1:20:31watched with one of my kids in the
1:20:33theater where the kid was suffering
1:20:35clear discomfort at what was happening
1:20:37and you know we've watched and women
1:20:40gone and seen any horror movies or
1:20:41anything in the theater but we have
1:20:43watched a lot of movies with intense
1:20:44action and this is the only one where
1:20:47I've ever actually had to kind of calm
1:20:49down the child sitting next to me
1:20:52because he was very concerned for what
1:20:56was about to happen so the cloth saves
1:20:57them and then once we get the last
1:20:59little chunk of the movie which is the
1:21:01they they go back to andy's I think this
1:21:04is the single most important part of the
1:21:05whole movie and and masterfully handle
1:21:08which is that what he now has it good
1:21:10you know what on top of it all
1:21:11woody and the friends they've all made
1:21:13their peace there happy for woody was
1:21:15glad they're going to be together when
1:21:16he gets in the Box what he looks through
1:21:18those through the little Jessie hole and
1:21:19sees the mom come in and she's losing it
1:21:22because she wants to always be with him
1:21:24and that's what makes him change his
1:21:26mind
1:21:26what does he write on that note we don't
1:21:28know I thought I think that whole
1:21:30sequence is just masterful yeah it's a
1:21:33huge it so he makes a huge sacrifice
1:21:35matter what could have been the life
1:21:37that he always wanted to keep the gang
1:21:39together but they do a very good job of
1:21:41keeping the fact that he's making that
1:21:43sacrifice a secret until the end because
1:21:45holy later we see the shot of the
1:21:46college box my car and we see the little
1:21:50or alot he's been looking through
1:21:51previously we don't see his eyes but we
1:21:53kind of assume maybe he's in there
1:21:55watching
1:21:56Linda he takes it all the time he takes
1:21:57all the toys out of the box to give the
1:21:58Bonnie but does not take would be out so
1:22:01we don't know that what he's still in
1:22:02the box till she's playing with all the
1:22:03toys then they have the little camera
1:22:05moves over you see woody at the bottom
1:22:06of the box and he's got a little bit of
1:22:08trouble giving them away so that's the I
1:22:10i love that he does he does he wants to
1:22:12take him to college he is the we
1:22:15mentioned this earlier he's the totem of
1:22:17childhood right that that fingers from
1:22:19Andy's perspective right he doesn't
1:22:21really play with toys anymore he's going
1:22:24to college but there still are things
1:22:27that he's got that are the totems that
1:22:28are the the the things that remind him
1:22:31of his childhood that he's got an
1:22:32emotional attachment to and he's not you
1:22:34know the bottom line is he's not taking
1:22:35what you to play with him he's taking
1:22:37him just to sort of be present and if we
1:22:40believe fundamentally the toys are meant
1:22:42to be played with that's what makes them
1:22:43happy then it you know but would he is
1:22:47doing the right thing in fulfilling his
1:22:49what he what he should be which is some
1:22:51but some kids toy not in and he's
1:22:54outgrown him and he doesn't play with
1:22:56him anymore and take being a being on
1:22:59your your dorm room shelf gathering dust
1:23:01is not a future that that he should have
1:23:04he did it by doing something I think
1:23:07he's mostly never never done before
1:23:08which is something he's defying the will
1:23:11of and even as we said in that in the
1:23:12first third of this he's all about being
1:23:14the person to make sure everybody's in
1:23:16line with doing whatever it is that
1:23:17handy once but he makes this is this is
1:23:19to change is the turn and the story at
1:23:21this this character is that he decides
1:23:24you know kind of by Fiat no i'm gonna
1:23:26tell me to do this differently and and
1:23:29that makes all the difference we do see
1:23:30what he writes on the post-it note it is
1:23:32thanks to reform the chatroom it's a
1:23:34bonny so street address
1:23:35that's what you can see it really well
1:23:3726-second more which is exactly what was
1:23:40on the earlier post it note that we saw
1:23:42in her room and they got her address
1:23:44meanwhile we see Andy to having a moment
1:23:47of being a child again a little bit too
1:23:49because as he's taking each of the toys
1:23:52out of the box and he's handing them
1:23:53over to Bonnie he's like happily kind of
1:23:54pushing them her way and explaining
1:23:56their little lives and how we used to
1:23:58play with them and giving them to her
1:24:00and then when he gets to woody and
1:24:02Bonnie reaches for woody with like the
1:24:05microbial oils he does he like pulls
1:24:07back like it's mine
1:24:08like as if he were a child reacting to
1:24:11another child trying to grab his toy and
1:24:14he has that like immediate really
1:24:16emotional visceral reaction to her and
1:24:19that is everything like it shows so like
1:24:23the deep relationship that he had with
1:24:25woody as his toy but then he takes that
1:24:28moment and he's like you know what it is
1:24:30like everyone it is is it is time that
1:24:32he's weighing about that same thing
1:24:34which is I'm not going to play with them
1:24:35and she she's gonna give she's gonna
1:24:37play with him the the scene where he
1:24:40introduces every toy and explains how
1:24:41they fit into the world is the scene
1:24:43that destroys me utterly destroys me yet
1:24:45because it's your goodbye to each of the
1:24:47characters on this are crying now stop
1:24:50that's the one that still gets me so the
1:24:52thing about it and and the other the
1:24:53other movies are like this too but but
1:24:55this one dr dre mentioned this i think
1:24:57when we talk about toy story 2 this is
1:24:59that moment I I already see it in my
1:25:02daughter you know who is 15 almost that
1:25:05sometimes she is a kid and sometimes
1:25:08she's an adult and she just kind of goes
1:25:10back and forth a young adult they go
1:25:11back and forth like it's all it's not
1:25:14like one day they wake up and they're
1:25:15not the other one and this is that
1:25:17moment of like this is though this is
1:25:19the the child who we knew as andy and
1:25:24it's like it's not like and he doesn't
1:25:25know and have affection for all these
1:25:27toys he's just kind of moved on but but
1:25:30and you see in a moment like he's about
1:25:31to go off and go to college and be an
1:25:33adult but it's not like he doesn't have
1:25:35all of all that knowledge and all those
1:25:37feelings inside and so he's passing it
1:25:39on to her and uh yeah that gets me then
1:25:42they play till I know right they all
1:25:44play together on the lawn people on
1:25:46playing with her but it is also
1:25:48important that like we learned to love
1:25:50these characters
1:25:51I mean it becomes a funny joke when you
1:25:53see buzz when he's not with what's the
1:25:56word like we need me know when he's in
1:25:58it being around a child Modi's get that
1:25:59silly that ridiculous look on his face
1:26:01and that becomes kind of funny because
1:26:02you've seen so much of all these
1:26:03characters personality like a vast
1:26:06majority of what happens with these
1:26:07characters in the movie is when they're
1:26:09in that other world where they're being
1:26:10the the animated characters who run
1:26:12around and have a life but again another
1:26:14important turn they are inanimate they
1:26:16are just toys in his hand
1:26:19he loves and he's narrating why he loves
1:26:22them
1:26:23I think that that's a huge part of it is
1:26:24that he's telling he's telling their
1:26:26story and and thats just crushes you and
1:26:29the toys are aware it in that moment
1:26:31that this is it this is the last time
1:26:33and he's playing with me
1:26:34yeah nice and goodbye and this is why he
1:26:37loves me and you could
1:26:38oh you love me huh yeah there it is
1:26:42I feel like sometimes the the only way I
1:26:44can get through this is thinking about
1:26:46the short the party source rx1 where it
1:26:49actually shows the toys kind of living
1:26:51in Bonnie's house have you guys you know
1:26:53and yeah yeah so that's the further
1:26:55adventures it's like now great now now
1:26:57we're in a new world where we're at
1:26:58Bonnie's house with those characters
1:26:59yeah I have to keep that in my mind like
1:27:01they're happy they really like Bonnie
1:27:03and body super nineties i have to keep
1:27:05reminding myself that she's a good kid
1:27:07she's gonna take really good care of
1:27:08them it's such a good back bookend that
1:27:11earlier scene where he just offhand
1:27:12calls them junk but he doesn't really
1:27:14mean it he's just being a moody teenager
1:27:17no question I'm here we see what he
1:27:18really thinks when he returns to the
1:27:20child that still lives on inside him
1:27:22even though he's growing up even when he
1:27:23was calling them junk you could tell the
1:27:25way he looked at them you know of course
1:27:26but anyway yeah the kids are trying to
1:27:28put that behind and even though and
1:27:30these stories kind of its in its in the
1:27:32background for a lot of the movie but
1:27:34again you've got the stages of grief
1:27:36there too and this is the acceptance and
1:27:38this is why he couldn't make that
1:27:40decision at the beginning of the movie
1:27:42you had to get through all of those
1:27:43levels to get to it
1:27:46David will be using all flashes her on
1:27:48those subject I love this Davis wrote my
1:27:51thesis it's great excellent so after the
1:27:53after he drives off down that perfect
1:27:56street and the toys look up on the
1:27:57camera pans up and it pans up to ask I
1:27:59with you know the sky above the house
1:28:02with clouds that are the exact shape of
1:28:04the clouds and his bedroom I you know
1:28:05exactly the so I like that I like that
1:28:10they've got we know that they're in a
1:28:12good place with Bonnie we like the
1:28:13characters we already met our friends
1:28:16have gotten there that's all great
1:28:17there's a there's a final montage we we
1:28:20see what's happening at the preschool
1:28:21since since the cruel reign of lots o
1:28:24has ended and everything seems seems
1:28:26good i did have a thought that they must
1:28:28have had some sort of Truth and
1:28:30Reconciliation program at
1:28:32school is it seems like there are a lot
1:28:34of lots of collaborators who have been
1:28:36welcomed back into society so they must
1:28:38be very forgiving at the preschool is
1:28:40one sometimes went argentina ya can give
1:28:44that great speech over the dumpster
1:28:45about how the the daycare could be cool
1:28:48and groovy if it was running properly
1:28:49and we see realization in the in the
1:28:52enforcers eyes each of them and Barbie
1:28:55to shave Barbies right there too with
1:28:57her you know that was commissioned
1:28:58message ready to to run this place when
1:29:01they tagged out like the one-to-one toys
1:29:03getting beat up by going together the
1:29:04cheerleaders cheering him on a
1:29:06caterpillar room you can do it
1:29:07yeah that's good but again some of those
1:29:10they're awfully forgiving about people
1:29:13who committed crimes during the lot so
1:29:14era his arms as well you know it's cool
1:29:16and groovy man it's all cool and groovy
1:29:18now you will include weekend right so
1:29:19yea Ken came over to the other side so i
1:29:21guess he's got you we got to forgive all
1:29:23of them
1:29:23it's a communist now and Barbie so does
1:29:26glitter talks back together so it's okay
1:29:28i'm really glad we get that scene
1:29:30because I i always i thought it was one
1:29:33little weird in the first place that
1:29:35that Andy donates all of his toys to
1:29:38Bonnie because it's not like he really
1:29:41knows her and it's she's not
1:29:42particularly in need she has plenty of
1:29:44toys and it seems kind of inevitable
1:29:46that at some point mom's gonna snag at
1:29:48least half of these and take them right
1:29:51back to the daycare so you know it's
1:29:53probably a good thing that that that
1:29:56little bit is at the end of the ones we
1:29:58know ken and barbie is still there but
1:29:59right even if some of our friends get
1:30:01get shunted off to the the preschool
1:30:03it's not it's not bad anymore it's not
1:30:05it's not a prison anymore and they all
1:30:07eventually end up there for right we
1:30:08know right they might even a monkey's
1:30:10cooler now he's not all high-strung
1:30:11looking with his wife is rocking out man
1:30:14is going to classes on the circle
1:30:16clapping cymbals together just inches
1:30:18away and lots o was just no good man
1:30:21lots of ruined everything that bear that
1:30:24strawberry-scented bear stinking bare
1:30:26and now he's strapped to the front of a
1:30:27trash truck i love that he takes his
1:30:29final ride on the front of the the
1:30:31garbage truck yes said or whoever I
1:30:34don't know garbage man arbys not said
1:30:36now that's a garbage man well fines
1:30:38fines a says I had a diet doll like this
1:30:41when I was a kid and they nailed him to
1:30:43the front all berries he smells it
1:30:45yeah yeah sure you're gonna be kind of
1:30:46perfect if it was the sid garbage man
1:30:48though because it's just the kind of
1:30:50thing you used to do so what do you all
1:30:52think about toy story 3 and how it fits
1:30:54with it with the first two because I i
1:30:55think what when I was introducing this
1:30:57episode I mean this is really the thing
1:30:59is late sequels are very hard to pull
1:31:02off and it's easier in animation because
1:31:03you don't have aging actors that you
1:31:05have to explain away and all that but
1:31:07they do take a time jump and they do get
1:31:09back into it i remember as steve has set
1:31:11a couple of times when they announce
1:31:12this movie everybody was like really
1:31:14really you're going back to the toy
1:31:16story well again after after a decade
1:31:18and you know I it turned out that
1:31:21generally the consensus is it's great
1:31:23like they didn't they did it well who
1:31:26who would have thought that they would
1:31:27have done another great toy story movie
1:31:29after all that time but they they had it
1:31:31in them and they did it so everybody
1:31:33else you know do you where do you where
1:31:35you slot this one
1:31:36like I said I think this is it is
1:31:37impressive as hell that they managed to
1:31:39make not only another great toy story
1:31:43movie but they also managed to pull off
1:31:46the kind of point thing that makes your
1:31:47ball again in the same universe to an
1:31:51even greater extent I think to me i
1:31:54don't think this quite reaches the level
1:31:56of toy story 2 i'm not sure how it's
1:31:59just with Toy Story one and the reason
1:32:01for that is I think this maybe just
1:32:05maybe a little bit too heavy you know
1:32:08you got toys story one which is mostly a
1:32:10lot of gags an adventure story with a
1:32:12little bit of heart
1:32:13toy story 2 I think just about perfectly
1:32:16balances the sort of point heart bits
1:32:18and also the sort of fun wacky nature of
1:32:22the toy store universe and this the tone
1:32:25is just a little too dark and the
1:32:27there's a little bit too much of the
1:32:30sadness i think and in i guess you know
1:32:33it makes a reasonable kind of continuing
1:32:35with the other films but for me I just I
1:32:38don't enjoy it quite to the same level
1:32:40and I don't think it reaches the kind of
1:32:42balance that toy story 2 does for me
1:32:45obviously you know the animations much
1:32:47much better in this than either of the
1:32:49other two so that's a big step forward
1:32:52but I think as a film as a whole I think
1:32:54to gets the nod for me and maybe it
1:32:56maybe a tie between three and one
1:32:58I think this is the first of all I like
1:33:00the fact that all three toy story films
1:33:01are different like they're not all the
1:33:03same tone that all the same structure
1:33:05that they did they did three different
1:33:06movies I think toy story 3 is by far the
1:33:10most sophisticated of them in all
1:33:12aspects investigated moviemaking writing
1:33:15plotting animation everything about it
1:33:17shows you know they've you know use all
1:33:19their skills and all their powers to to
1:33:22make this amazing movie showing that the
1:33:25these you know that they're better now
1:33:26than they were they made two and one at
1:33:28making movies in all aspects right
1:33:30all that said I think to not distract
1:33:34that the best balance for me between
1:33:36like the heavy stuff forever was just
1:33:38like the three starts to get into the
1:33:42realm of pics are making everything
1:33:45making it sounds bad like making
1:33:48everything really good like don't you
1:33:49want everything to be really good but
1:33:50somehow we kind of like love the movies
1:33:53that uh that despite their flaws and toy
1:33:57story 3 doesn't really have that many
1:33:59flaws and I feel like it does have a lot
1:34:01packed into it like once you have all
1:34:02those skills and powers and you can make
1:34:04a much more sophisticated movie it's
1:34:06almost unfair so we're going to punish
1:34:07you for being so much better than your
1:34:09before and making this amazing movie and
1:34:11a degree of difficulty is higher as you
1:34:12pointed out for a third sequel or
1:34:14whatever so I you know I think probably
1:34:17three is a better movie than one and two
1:34:20but to still kind of holds the the place
1:34:23of honor for me personally and I can see
1:34:25totally see that varying or whatever its
1:34:28again you know that favorite verses best
1:34:30like toy story 3 is an amazing
1:34:32achievement in so many ways but 22 just
1:34:35feels like i don't have to do too is
1:34:37elevated in my mind and one definitely
1:34:40has the look this is the first time
1:34:42we're doing this is an amazing that
1:34:43we're doing it all one is not as good a
1:34:45movie has two or three but again that's
1:34:47best vs. favor don't know it's very very
1:34:49difficult to rank them because they are
1:34:50so different so mostly when I think of
1:34:52these movies I just appreciate like i
1:34:54said before they made three good movies
1:34:57they made three great movies right and
1:34:58so everything else aside in this
1:35:00particular series since we haven't seen
1:35:02four yet every one of the movies is a
1:35:05great movie which is an amazing
1:35:06achievement and like if if you were
1:35:08involved in any way with Toy Story
1:35:10franchise
1:35:11you know you can retire happy and so I
1:35:13guess what we made three great movies
1:35:14and that is really hard to do it almost
1:35:16never been done before I i mean i love
1:35:18them in order at I mean the first one is
1:35:22delightful
1:35:24you know it's just it's a fun story the
1:35:27second one
1:35:28yeah it's it's it's a little bit more it
1:35:32has more depth as you know we we get to
1:35:34grow with the characters i love the
1:35:36third one most of all because it's it's
1:35:39kinda like if the first one is the
1:35:40theory of gravity and go okay that's
1:35:42kind of cool and the second one now
1:35:44you've got quantum physics and the third
1:35:46one is like superstring Theory where you
1:35:48have like you know 37 dimensions for you
1:35:50once you just thought we had four right
1:35:53i love that that it had all that
1:35:55ambition and all the silliness and all
1:35:58the plotting and they nailed it right
1:36:01they didn't it wasn't like all they
1:36:04tried to do so much more and and you
1:36:07know good for them for trying
1:36:08they did it they achieved it and and so
1:36:12it's it's a film that you know i watched
1:36:14i watch the five-year-old who and and I
1:36:17realize it's his first time in the
1:36:18theater was seeing that and he loved the
1:36:21first to you know we had them on DVD and
1:36:24and he was just entranced for the whole
1:36:26thing and yet there it was never and
1:36:30it's not like Pixar does this right
1:36:32others have you know a hair jokes for
1:36:34adults and here's stuff for the kids and
1:36:36you know pixar does a good job of
1:36:38balancing all that anyway but this was a
1:36:40film I could enjoy without having a
1:36:42child in the room right this is a movie
1:36:45i would choose to watch I don't always
1:36:46watch the other two and so the it
1:36:49disengages me on on so many levels I
1:36:52just I love it
1:36:54way beyond the other two and i love the
1:36:56other two don't get me wrong so
1:36:58superstring theory stages of grief and
1:37:01the divine comedy again I think you've
1:37:04gotta there's a just read the mount
1:37:06monograph by tale or about toys story
1:37:09three as as much as I love all the other
1:37:11picture films and even later picture
1:37:12films this one I think might be the best
1:37:16thing that ever done stuff where you
1:37:17where you put this one
1:37:19well how's this is it
1:37:20kind of a close second favorite too for
1:37:23me I was gonna say to is my favorite but
1:37:25if it could this would be my favorite
1:37:27414 all the crying I it does make me
1:37:30very upset especially looking at my
1:37:32little boy and I can't help but you know
1:37:35just did the anticipation of a fearing
1:37:39that loss of him growing up you know
1:37:43like that really gets me but I'm gonna
1:37:45cry now
1:37:46um but I don't know it is just so much
1:37:51better the jokes are better that I just
1:37:54like the characters a lot better i love
1:37:56Barbie in this i love that she's not
1:37:58like a super made up you know like
1:38:01glamour Barbie and so I I think that's
1:38:04great yeah it's just it's so close and
1:38:07my son loves this one I think this was
1:38:09his favorite he sits the longest through
1:38:11this one of his little friend always
1:38:12request this 12 when she's over so it i
1:38:15guess that that kind of pulls my
1:38:17heartstrings a little bit there too and
1:38:19that he really likes it so man is just
1:38:21waffling back and forth between two and
1:38:23this one for me so it's it's right up
1:38:24there it's great very difficult because
1:38:28i think it was John over said that you
1:38:30know enjoying that they're very
1:38:32different films they really are and I I
1:38:35like that a lot
1:38:36i I'm just sitting here trying to come
1:38:38up with something intelligent to support
1:38:40my incredibly just emotional gut
1:38:43reaction where I feel like this one was
1:38:47an epic right and yeah I i think was a
1:38:50very successful epic i think i'm
1:38:54thinking like toy story 2 more and the
1:38:57guy do I can really really lame the
1:38:59closest i can think of is like Toy Story
1:39:01one is beatles for sale
1:39:03toy story 2 is rubber sole and this is
1:39:06revolver and I know revolver is the best
1:39:09beatles album forget all sergeant pepper
1:39:10with either that's not the best it feels
1:39:13up revolvers the best time but there's
1:39:14something special about rubber soul
1:39:17because you you back into the beater
1:39:20feels for sale and they are they put up
1:39:22three albums in a year they are totally
1:39:24beat up and but that was still a
1:39:25transformative album where you first
1:39:27really feel them becoming songwriters
1:39:29but rubber soul is where they turn a
1:39:31corner and did something that seemed
1:39:33possible and then you know I think
1:39:35revolver is the is a combination of that
1:39:38in a lot of ways and that probably the
1:39:39beatles best album this is probably the
1:39:41best toy story movie but there's still a
1:39:43part of me that likes the scale the
1:39:46scope and the execution of toy story 2 a
1:39:48little better i don't know it's
1:39:51difficult I guess if I had to put on
1:39:52some kind of a chart like toy story 3
1:39:54and 2 would be up here and like the 90th
1:39:56percentile and I story one you know
1:39:59technical stuff notwithstanding would be
1:40:00in the 70's to 80's this whole parts of
1:40:02that movie I just think aren't in
1:40:04retrospect not nearly as good as they
1:40:05were at the time but like for what if
1:40:07you grade them you know the way they do
1:40:09I like box office mojo will be based on
1:40:12like an inflation-adjusted if you do
1:40:13technically inflation-adjusted numbers i
1:40:16still think toy story 2 is arguably the
1:40:20most transcendent but i love this movie
1:40:22and I loved it
1:40:23yeah I i can't i can't choose i think
1:40:25that everybody said exactly they all
1:40:26have things going for them toys route
1:40:28one was first and they were really
1:40:30trying to figure out how to do this
1:40:32thing and toy story 2 was them having
1:40:35being triumphant and being at the top of
1:40:38their game and confident what they're
1:40:39doing and toy story 3 you know you're
1:40:41talking about more than a decade later
1:40:42where things have advanced so much that
1:40:45they have way more paints on you know in
1:40:49their palate then they had for toy story
1:40:512 and they want to show them off and so
1:40:53they're very food i think very different
1:40:55movies from different stages in the life
1:40:57of Pixar and all good all very good so
1:40:59what's your pic tho you gotta pick one
1:41:01pick one think it forget about
1:41:02inflation-adjusted adjusted technology
1:41:05inflation-adjusted numbers if I had to
1:41:06pick with just one it would probably be
1:41:08toy story 2 but I don't want to pick so
1:41:10I'm there that i picked without picking
1:41:12you know i think i am going to be swayed
1:41:14toy story three is better
1:41:15alright I like about like you like a
1:41:18good night's movie that's creating
1:41:20watching and I gotta go for it yeah it's
1:41:23not a heist but it's like an escape you
1:41:24know they synchronize they work together
1:41:26i like the montages i love it yeah its
1:41:28mission impossible i want to put a
1:41:29recommendation for something of
1:41:31everybody here almost really knows about
1:41:32we've talked about it before I try to
1:41:33mention it again just a source of pure
1:41:37delight there are and think at this
1:41:38point to collections of pixar shorts you
1:41:40can get on itunes and they are just
1:41:43wonderful going back all you know pretty
1:41:45much all the way back to like shorts
1:41:47that are
1:41:47very very technically ambitious for the
1:41:50nineteen eighties all the way up to
1:41:51fairly recent ones those two volumes of
1:41:54pixar shorts are a lot of fun and
1:41:56there's two least two really delightful
1:41:58Toy Story shorts on there's one called
1:42:00Hawaiian vacation that's adorable but i
1:42:02love the small fry and small fries
1:42:06basically buzz gets lost at a at a
1:42:09chicken fast-food restaurant and gets
1:42:11replaced by a toy like a toy of a toy
1:42:13from the restaurant is amazing that a
1:42:15fright
1:42:15mhm it's in total delight now seek out
1:42:19the toys for shorts and seek out the one
1:42:21that comes after toy story 3 where you
1:42:24get to feel like happy that your friends
1:42:26are doing fine and bodies room and
1:42:28they're having little wacky hijinks in
1:42:31Bonnie's room which are great it's a
1:42:33great short but also it just is a nice
1:42:34emotional continuation of toy story 3
1:42:37where it's good to see them having a one
1:42:39good they've done 30 minute specials for
1:42:41ABC yeah actually that that's that's
1:42:43also why was i I was mean to say is that
1:42:46they did they do to half hour specials
1:42:48yeah they did the halloween one and the
1:42:50toy story that time forgot yes which is
1:42:52a great one
1:42:53I love that one lots and lots of good
1:42:55stuff so so there's there's room they're
1:42:57all right I'm gonna wrap it up i want to
1:43:00thank my guests for being here talking
1:43:02about toy story 3 what Pixar movie will
1:43:04we cover next I don't honestly know
1:43:05we'll deal with that in 2017 i think but
1:43:08i want to thank my guests for for
1:43:11wrapping up the Toy Story franchise or
1:43:13wait until toy story 4 comes out but
1:43:14probably not Marlon man thank you so
1:43:16much for being on thank you Jason thank
1:43:18you for your patience with us tonight
1:43:19satellite to be here David lower thank
1:43:22you for being here in let's say heaven
1:43:25how about that heaven as well it's not a
1:43:28doll museum and for that I'm grateful
1:43:29news steve lots
1:43:32thank you so long partner
1:43:37Tiffany are meant thanks for being here
1:43:39thanks we have a play date with destiny
1:43:40and Johnson's thank you
1:43:43you know looking forward to a toy story
1:43:464 I think we should all take the heart
1:43:47the important thing that we learned
1:43:48about the toys in this movie which is
1:43:51they live they die they live again
1:43:54witness me so until until next time I
1:44:00been your host Jason still quiet musical
1:44:02hog we'll see you next week
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