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0:00:31februari 2015 welcome back everybody to
0:00:35be uncomfortable i am your host Jason
0:00:37Steele we're here I'm convening another
0:00:39meeting of the old movie club or Movie
0:00:42Club the big and mean it
0:00:45our topic today will be two films from
0:00:50alfred hitchcock this has been pitched
0:00:53to me as the underappreciated Hitchcock
0:00:56segment we're going to be talking about
0:00:571943 shadow of a doubt and 1940s rope
0:01:01and I i will introduce my panelists now
0:01:06David lower hello
0:01:07gucci me Monty ashley i only watch these
0:01:11movies to demonstrate that I could
0:01:13commit a perfect murder
0:01:15it didn't work now I find a lot of holes
0:01:19in all these laws will eventually since
0:01:21she just confessed in a podcast like
0:01:24tragic flaw indeed and Enoch oh hello hi
0:01:28there I i I'm gonna be a bit late coming
0:01:30in here because i'm selling a newspaper
0:01:32to a suspiciously portly gentleman whose
0:01:35back is turned to the camera open up
0:01:37he's already left i'm ok now you look
0:01:40familiar
0:01:41I don't I couldn't go to play these it
0:01:42was just through so quickly that I
0:01:44couldn't place it could really see his
0:01:45face and a moron hello
0:01:48no one will convict me for killing all
0:01:50of you that's probably accurate
0:01:53well Steve let's also out there who
0:01:55could forget Steve let's I can't imagine
0:01:57a person could forget Steve lot when
0:01:59you're using our theme song for the old
0:02:01movie club its reward movie clubs young
0:02:04not really a theme or a song not the
0:02:07theme song for the old movie it is
0:02:09anyway
0:02:10and the instigator of this whole thing
0:02:12is Philip Michaels can you explain your
0:02:15thinking in this that the concept that
0:02:18you you you chose for us with these two
0:02:20films i would be happy to jason i think
0:02:22when you mention alfred hitchcock of the
0:02:25movies that most rapidly spring to mind
0:02:28are your psychos and your North by
0:02:30Northwest and maybe your rear windows or
0:02:34if you're if you're really a film snoot
0:02:38of vertigo or or even the birds but for
0:02:43my money basically the movies at high
0:02:45anxiety
0:02:46yes what what well I'll of North by
0:02:49Northwest I think that's a really good
0:02:51movie i think some of Hitchcock's best
0:02:53work is some of his earlier stuff and I
0:02:56think it often gets overlooked for one
0:02:58reason or another and I I i wanted to 2a
0:03:01bring these movies one of which is my
0:03:04favorite Hitchcock movie and the other
0:03:06of which is I i think is really a neat
0:03:08neat bit of film film trickery that I i
0:03:13think we can talk about all right should
0:03:16we start with then with shadow of a
0:03:18doubt from 1943 and not a spoiler alert
0:03:21this is my favorite Hitchcock uh-oh
0:03:24you've ruined the rest of the podcast
0:03:25yeah books and if you--if interviews
0:03:29with alfred hitchcock ER to be believed
0:03:31this was his favorite movie of all truth
0:03:33singing that man is a liar
0:03:35yeah haha sell shadow of a doubt as he
0:03:38said it's a 1943 and it is filmed in a
0:03:43place very very near to where Jason
0:03:45Meyer podcasting tonight Santa Rosa
0:03:47California but i get i get ahead of
0:03:49myself the movie opens up in what is
0:03:53some sort of urban hellscape I assume
0:03:55it's Philadelphia it enslaves numerous
0:03:57Heller hellscape is when I got it it has
0:04:00that whole eastcoast life is
0:04:03deteriorating vibe and it looks rather
0:04:06newcastle s Caswell oh yeah exactly
0:04:09uh-huh i had a direct a kazoo parade to
0:04:12walk through in the Alliance a shout out
0:04:15to earlier and yes that's right that's
0:04:17some old movie club continuity their
0:04:19catalog the right people get it
0:04:21up and they want to appreciate it but
0:04:23they'll get it I don't appreciate a nice
0:04:26set it good
0:04:27Joseph copy this line of a bad then ma
0:04:31indeed all right
0:04:33as it turns out some some dudes are
0:04:36looking for him and and he looks to be a
0:04:39cat and a spot of trouble so he loots
0:04:42that the two guys that are looking for
0:04:43him and sends a telegram to his family
0:04:45in santa rosa california that he's gonna
0:04:47come out for a visit
0:04:48meanwhile at that same time in santa
0:04:50rosa california uh the family who is a
0:04:54represented by Teresa Wright who plays
0:04:58also a young lady named Charlie I should
0:05:01mention the joseph cotten is uncle
0:05:03Charlie so they have that connection you
0:05:05see and also they may be the only two
0:05:07intelligent people in their entire fam
0:05:09well we'll get to that I think later in
0:05:11the whole town of Santa Rosa yes it's
0:05:13it's not a very bright family haha so
0:05:17Teresa Wright is a bit down in the dumps
0:05:20she's feeling that there in Iraq and
0:05:22then she gets on the idea to invite
0:05:24uncle Charlie out for a visit
0:05:25Oh uncle Charlie sent a telegram that
0:05:27he's coming yeah they have a connection
0:05:30you see and uncle Charlie arrives and
0:05:34almost immediately the time I stop you
0:05:37for a moment as I enjoy the line i enjoy
0:05:39the exchange between the lady at the
0:05:41telegraph company and any young Charlie
0:05:43where she says have you ever thought
0:05:45about telepathy and the old ladies like
0:05:47to look at these my business I don't
0:05:49believe it
0:05:49yeah yeah I wanted to what struck me was
0:05:52the fact we are your ass lady seemed
0:05:53genuinely worried about her business
0:05:55model for a second there like a white
0:05:57wait wait you can communicate with
0:05:58outliers was going to bubble was never
0:06:00gonna burst
0:06:02it's over but for telegrams anyhow so
0:06:04uncle Charlie arrives in town and almost
0:06:06immediately both the viewer and Teresa
0:06:09Wright can spot there's something not
0:06:11quite right but he's he's got some
0:06:14secrets he does some very weird things
0:06:17he's snatching newspapers out of peoples
0:06:19and dismissed
0:06:20he's giving out gifts with other
0:06:21people's names engraved on that and he
0:06:25talks about how elderly women should
0:06:27probably be choked just on principle
0:06:29well we're getting ahead for getting
0:06:31ahead of ourselves and a lot of fun at
0:06:32dinner parties
0:06:33yes
0:06:34so also I that moment of like hey it's
0:06:37joseph cotten I remember him from such
0:06:40movies as as the third man and citizen
0:06:43came and I now suspect him of everything
0:06:46right except in those movies like he's
0:06:50yes he's a nice guy and and here he
0:06:53shows up and he's East he immediately
0:06:55gives off a creepy vibe and and the
0:06:57first time I ever saw this movie instead
0:06:58of talking to be ok because Joseph
0:07:00gotten a nice guy
0:07:02no he's not thank you know he's very bad
0:07:05at being a nice guy in this that
0:07:06newspaper here and again
0:07:08yeah well trying to cover his tracks and
0:07:10all it doesn't make everybody in the
0:07:12house say hey look what uncle Charlie
0:07:14did to that newspaper you stole a page
0:07:16hey everybody he ripped up dad's
0:07:18newspaper dad's gonna be upset even
0:07:20before that like when he shows up at the
0:07:21station and he let everybody else carry
0:07:23his bags from even like the little kids
0:07:25are like carrying his bags like I'm just
0:07:26gonna stand back here i'm not you know
0:07:27if you pretend to be sick to first right
0:07:29ladies getting off the green he looks
0:07:31all feeble and then he's like spring
0:07:33along and sauntering and then he's like
0:07:35yes children carry my heavy bags for
0:07:37being the newspapers cost the equivalent
0:07:39of about six hundred dollars in 1940's
0:07:42that must be unbelievably anal about
0:07:44that newspaper the kids are terrified
0:07:46remember the back then if you missed out
0:07:48on that paper that's only gonna be
0:07:50another four hours wait until the next
0:07:5110 dare take the comics Clarence will
0:07:55fly into a murderous rage and see how I
0:07:59i assume that everyone's Oh uncle
0:08:01Charlie he's always playing tricks and
0:08:03stunts that's why why you have that so
0:08:05two gentlemen show up and they're
0:08:07they're pretending to do a survey of the
0:08:09fat American family
0:08:11it basically the FBI in those days has
0:08:14has no no skillet subterfuge and more
0:08:18recently with suppressed because it's
0:08:20quite clear that they are there solely
0:08:22to check up on Uncle Charlie they had as
0:08:24much skill as they needed
0:08:26yes good just for this is very much a
0:08:28hey your shoelace is untied kind of
0:08:30people you need to deal with their on
0:08:33behalf of money girion prince who's got
0:08:35a bank account for him where we're at
0:08:37the point where uh-uh FBI man a square
0:08:43jaw breaks the nineties
0:08:44just so that's fo marks i honestly
0:08:47thought for a moment he was a postmark
0:08:49he's just had that sort of wave the air
0:08:51yeah he knows a long torso breaks the
0:08:54news to Charlie that I thought he was at
0:08:56Martin after several good punches to the
0:08:58face that her uncle might actually be a
0:09:02murderer
0:09:04yes and not just any murder but a serial
0:09:08killer who goes around like women widows
0:09:11and taking their money and then leaving
0:09:13him for dead and it's either it's either
0:09:16him or another guy in the east coast so
0:09:18they're they're following him so that's
0:09:20like week 11 of American Idol we know
0:09:22it's gonna be one of these to stay tuned
0:09:24after the break to find out feel good
0:09:26about the crime-fighting of 1943 they're
0:09:28like we got it narrowed down to two guys
0:09:30who has been murdering everybody what is
0:09:33the evidence is there someone is like
0:09:34Schrodinger's cat evidence somewhere
0:09:36that it's like it's definitely one of
0:09:38these two guys the things that will one
0:09:39later on is that they have the same
0:09:41initials is the thing like when they
0:09:43when they talk later on about like the
0:09:44guy they captured his initials are also
0:09:46like co-owned so Mike apparently he left
0:09:48like a monogrammed handkerchief is
0:09:50significant rock and there's nothing I i
0:09:52believe this is what we call in the
0:09:53business MacGuffin just keep moving
0:09:56along but apparently the way it works is
0:09:58that as soon as one suspect is dead all
0:10:00of the others are exhausted yeah well my
0:10:02top yeah well I realized realized this
0:10:05was j edgar Hoover's FBI so first step
0:10:07eliminate all the Protestants really
0:10:10narrows the suspect pulled down if
0:10:12they're positive they know which one of
0:10:13these two guys I feel like they could
0:10:15have turned up their investigation a
0:10:17little more than without the older may
0:10:20long fake survey said that doesn't that
0:10:24does indicate their entire manpower on
0:10:26this case was four guys can split them
0:10:28into two guys that way two guys the
0:10:30other way
0:10:31probably not enlisting the help of an 18
0:10:33year old ladies you mean operative is it
0:10:37is also about law enforcement strategic
0:10:40resell em now young charlie is beginning
0:10:43to have her suspicions about Uncle
0:10:45Charlie who is getting creepier and
0:10:47creepier with every sea and it is not a
0:10:50lot for a room for him to go there is
0:10:52not good pretty creepy and also those
0:10:54two are flirting with each other yeah
0:10:56what you see is what the weird and
0:10:58uncomfortable sexual tension
0:11:00well I think that's quite intentional on
0:11:02num Hitchcock's part and speaking of
0:11:03movies that Teresa Wright would go on to
0:11:06make she later made a movie with joseph
0:11:08cotten which he could place my fabulous
0:11:11yeah um but yeah I know basically a
0:11:16uncle Charlie starts off at the ceiling
0:11:18of creepy and then like high recovery
0:11:20that burrow through the ceiling
0:11:22I don't have you would happen and
0:11:24because Andy mentioned already that the
0:11:28monologue that on the uncle Charlie
0:11:31gives about widows is is is it is quite
0:11:36delightful one of my favorite bits of
0:11:38dialogue in any Hitchcock movie uh
0:11:40because it and and what did the wives do
0:11:43these useless women you see them in the
0:11:45hotel's the best hotels every day by the
0:11:47thousands drinking their money eating
0:11:49their monthly notices money at the
0:11:51bridge they not did night smelling of
0:11:54money proud of their jewelry but if
0:11:55nothing else horrible faded fat greedy
0:11:58women are they are the human are they
0:12:01fat we had an amazing animals and what
0:12:04happens to animals when they get too fat
0:12:06too old and and and and the context of
0:12:09this is he supposed to give a speech to
0:12:11the local women's clothing and Trump his
0:12:14mother uncle Charlie sister sister but I
0:12:16hope you don't give that speech to the
0:12:18club was good yeah he's really great
0:12:21speechifying I'm workshopping a few open
0:12:23legs tonight for you used to see the
0:12:25roses greatest orators of all time by
0:12:28contrast my favorite dialogue in the
0:12:29movie is say I've never had a wristwatch
0:12:32the fellows at the bank will think I'm
0:12:34quite a sport it's evidenced by the fact
0:12:37that doesn't know how to put it on and
0:12:40try z fumbles with ya that anyhow uh
0:12:42everyone uh in santa rosa just embraces
0:12:46uncle Charlie to their beliefs because
0:12:47because he is the most wonderful thing
0:12:49which I i think is again and a very
0:12:51intentional thing that Hitchcock did
0:12:53because that the terror in this movie is
0:12:56what if you know something horrible
0:12:59about someone that you previously loved
0:13:03and admired and no one believes you
0:13:05everybody like yeah yeah because you
0:13:07never said anything to any
0:13:09buddy so at as we've mentioned there are
0:13:12two suspects and charlie is consumed
0:13:15uncle Charlie he needs to leave town and
0:13:18the and he's about to bolt and then all
0:13:20of a sudden word comes over the radio
0:13:21that suspect number two has a fled from
0:13:24the FBI and run into a propeller blade
0:13:26and was closing the case then offered
0:13:30his cock master of plot not to
0:13:32foreshadow but if you're if you're a
0:13:34serial murderer i suggest watching out
0:13:36for various forms of transportation that
0:13:38just like your undoing it yeah and if
0:13:40it's down to you and one other guy find
0:13:42any other guy take care of the other guy
0:13:44as we've mentioned Hume Cronyn is in
0:13:46this movie as the as the next door
0:13:48neighbor who has a fascination with true
0:13:50crime and murders and he literally says
0:13:54at that point when the news comes up
0:13:55over the radio
0:13:56well I guess that wraps up this case and
0:13:59it's not like the rick moranis of this
0:14:01i'm fascinated by the human Cronin's
0:14:03character and also his relationship with
0:14:05the dad where they have these
0:14:07conversations of how they will kill how
0:14:09I will kill you
0:14:11I get away with it this way it makes
0:14:12perfect sense though because he murders
0:14:14the dad who then goes on to become
0:14:15Clarence the angel so it all worked out
0:14:18with the nineteen-forties it was the
0:14:21love that could not speak its name
0:14:22they're great though I think they're my
0:14:23favorite part of the whole help although
0:14:24how freaky was it to see I actually had
0:14:27to like look up his age he was 32 years
0:14:29old my God he's like a young Hume Cronyn
0:14:32I didn't know they even made through
0:14:33that I had never seen a non raise any
0:14:35human Cronin i'm going to show you
0:14:37exactly what he has kind of a like a
0:14:39henry winkler meets val kilmer thing
0:14:41going to be like just just a dash of
0:14:44Crispin Glover throne energy i even more
0:14:46than a dashi may have a whole cup of
0:14:48Crispin Glover through it was a weird
0:14:50weird character that's that's a pretty
0:14:52strong just get Andy magnet right there
0:14:55um Cronin is the uncomfortable neighbor
0:14:58who really likes talking about killing
0:15:00PTF now it shows up it always shows up
0:15:03or like in the middle entertainer
0:15:04because he's a lonely man yeah he'll
0:15:08just walk into the house at dinnertime
0:15:09it's my god he does all he has his
0:15:11mother and his murders
0:15:13that's a key plot point yea cantonese is
0:15:16lowest le yeah the way i read that
0:15:18character to as I kept sort of expecting
0:15:20that he would be blamed for a for a
0:15:22murder
0:15:23down the down the line because you know
0:15:24we always talk about murders me super
0:15:26creepy and kind of a weirdo
0:15:28he had an outbreak has happened to swing
0:15:30by with a basket of poison mushrooms
0:15:31just to explain how easy it would be to
0:15:33slip these on the people's food also i
0:15:35love the part where he poisons coffee
0:15:36with soda that's yeah oh yeah that was
0:15:39that was some great bending I don't get
0:15:40the mushrooms are poison that he brings
0:15:41over i think he just brings them as an
0:15:43example of much yes you can discuss
0:15:45poisoned by agents see these mushrooms
0:15:48because if i had not brought the visual
0:15:50aid you would had no idea what I was
0:15:52talking about
0:15:53he's a prop comic uncle Charlie just
0:15:55bounds up the stairs joyful that he's
0:15:57off the hook up and then he turns around
0:16:00and looks at young Charlie and realize
0:16:02oh god she knows i have to totally kill
0:16:04her yeah and so the remainder of the
0:16:07movie which at this point we've got like
0:16:0820 minutes half an hour left is just
0:16:11basically him trying to kill his niece
0:16:13over and over again and being really bad
0:16:15at it a couple things one is i love the
0:16:17scene where he's on the stairs their
0:16:18first there are a lot of staircases in
0:16:20this BS this movie is is this in case in
0:16:22the house in the back staircase that
0:16:24same i think it's all yes I and then
0:16:26he's full staircase staircase staircase
0:16:30yes i love the scene where Joseph Cotten
0:16:32gets to the top of the stairs and he
0:16:33just stops and you're still looking at
0:16:34his back you know you and and and he's
0:16:37just standing there and that's that
0:16:38realization that she's down there in the
0:16:40doorway looking at him and that this is
0:16:42going to be a problem and that's just a
0:16:44fantastic fantastic seen the other thing
0:16:47i want to mention is that the you will
0:16:49talk about movies we often talk about
0:16:50pacing and I I don't want to say this in
0:16:53a negative way I what I would let me
0:16:56phrase it this way if there were a
0:16:57modern retelling of this film we would
0:17:01get to the he's going to try to kill her
0:17:02repeatedly like 10 minutes in and then
0:17:05it would go on for two hours and that's
0:17:07not what happens in this movie there's
0:17:08like an hour of setup before we even get
0:17:12close to realizing where this movie is
0:17:15going to end up whereas a modern movie
0:17:17with just the whole movie would just be
0:17:19like final destination except it's
0:17:22Charlie trying to kill Charlie Charlie
0:17:25versus Charlie ok
0:17:27that could be what we call anyway so I
0:17:28appreciated that it was sort of it
0:17:29escalates to this moment and then we get
0:17:31this sort of frenzied last half hour
0:17:33where
0:17:34there's the back-and-forth of him trying
0:17:36to kill her and I think in a way that's
0:17:39why this is Hitchcock's favorite movie
0:17:40because it it is it is the slow build to
0:17:43perfection
0:17:44where where it builds and builds and
0:17:47builds and the tension increases
0:17:49throughout the movie until until the
0:17:52last act which is basically yeah things
0:17:55are happening and so there you go
0:17:57I mean there's that whole wonderful
0:17:59conversation about basically what is an
0:18:01earworm that goes for about five minutes
0:18:03early on because she can't get the song
0:18:05out of your head and then I think songs
0:18:07like that transfer from head-to-head and
0:18:09if I hum it long enough you'll think
0:18:11what it is and then he has to distract
0:18:13them before anyone realizes it's the
0:18:14merry widow you so who's who started off
0:18:17humming The Merry Widow I i missed on
0:18:19who it was that initiate that young
0:18:21charter yeah because there was another
0:18:23day telepathy thing
0:18:24yeah even you think you're the clever
0:18:27little girl who knows something
0:18:29there's so much you don't know so much
0:18:31what do you know really you're just an
0:18:33ordinary girl limited an ordinary little
0:18:35town you wake up every morning if your
0:18:37life and you know perfectly well that
0:18:38there's nothing in the world to trouble
0:18:40you
0:18:40you go through your ordinary little date
0:18:42night you sleep you're troubled ordinary
0:18:44little sleep filled with peaceful stupid
0:18:46dreams and I brought you nightmares
0:18:49Uncle Chuck broke the movie meter with
0:18:51that dialogue he at me
0:18:54that's a culturally to his beloved nice
0:18:56moments was when he was seven and he
0:18:58started talking that way that it was
0:19:00really creepy he tries to knock her down
0:19:01the stairs he tries to as asphyxiate ER
0:19:04in a in a garage with the door slams
0:19:07shut and she's stuck in there without
0:19:08which almost works
0:19:10yeah look are you know about human krone
0:19:12and saves the day destination doesn't
0:19:14rescuer just goes and tells everyone
0:19:16else that this was there when she wasn't
0:19:19did that seem like a red herring anybody
0:19:21else I almost felt as though
0:19:23oh they're going to indicate that he's
0:19:25actually the detective because no he
0:19:26didn't just happen to be walking by he
0:19:28was actually casing and keeping an eye
0:19:30on things and I was pretty surprised to
0:19:32find that no he was just being human
0:19:34Cronin I think they did that because it
0:19:36creates the stagecraft where uncle
0:19:38Charlie can put the keys back in the car
0:19:40and and make it look like it wasn't a
0:19:42total setup
0:19:43yeah because otherwise you say well how
0:19:46did this happen
0:19:47well someone was trying to kill her
0:19:49obviously was here it looks just like an
0:19:51accident uncle Charlie is the first into
0:19:53the into the garage which she is in that
0:19:56scene although he's got to get back
0:19:58first before anybody else doesn't kick
0:20:00the thing out from under the door
0:20:01you know right to carry it off as kind
0:20:03of a problem with a plan and I i think
0:20:07the only I don't think was that specific
0:20:09i think it was just because everybody
0:20:11else is inside the house when you're
0:20:12writing the screenplay oh well how did
0:20:14they find me easy he's also turned
0:20:15cranked up the radio but coincidentally
0:20:18two seconds into and news from knows
0:20:21from from washington state as hard for
0:20:23the cliq hey let's listen to some really
0:20:25loud music now why is it a lot of
0:20:27Charlie okies you like a nice you don't
0:20:29get the base until you crank it out
0:20:30which is actual line i think that it was
0:20:32like okay who do we have that's not in
0:20:34the house right now as a screenwriter
0:20:35Unicron ok whatever mobile just say he
0:20:38happened to be passing by there may have
0:20:41been humans suggestion i noticed i'm not
0:20:42in the scene guys
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0:22:42the reason that Charlie why I mean I I
0:22:45take the point that everybody likes him
0:22:47he's giving a speech or he's about to go
0:22:49when he tries a killer he's get going to
0:22:51go give a speech that's going to go down
0:22:52as one of the finest speeches in santa
0:22:54rosa history a minister says so Jason
0:22:56yeah this now you guys are right near
0:22:59santa rosa houses that speech stack up i
0:23:02sent over history
0:23:04I'm gonna have to check i just i think
0:23:05there's a plaque somewhere about Grayson
0:23:08Rosa home of the legendary 1947 speech
0:23:11by to the Unitarian you know by uncle
0:23:12Charlie I think Charles Schulz gave a
0:23:14speech a few years later that went over
0:23:16well but other than that it was known to
0:23:18Charlie they said no no your talk of
0:23:21peanuts interesting mr. Schultz but
0:23:24unless you mentioned phat weezy very
0:23:27without yeah i took my point is that
0:23:29young charlie is the thing that he's got
0:23:32over her that prevents her from telling
0:23:34anybody this you know it's not until the
0:23:37very very end that he's even well-liked
0:23:39in the town it's that it would break her
0:23:42mother's heart which is why i wanted to
0:23:45mention this because her mother is an
0:23:47idiot you know what else might break
0:23:51mom's heart when daughter dies mascot
0:23:54char math breaks her heart into it to
0:23:58his credit he does this really my
0:23:59sinister speed say well you could talk
0:24:01but you know you're ill ruin your mother
0:24:03and hey what about your dad's job at the
0:24:05bank you'll probably get fired from that
0:24:06your whole family's gonna be ruined only
0:24:08going to do is just not say anything and
0:24:10your family will still be perfectly fine
0:24:11you know periodically i'll try to kill
0:24:13you but you
0:24:14no you can ignore that it was just in
0:24:17this motley crew of like mental
0:24:19negatives you have to like maintain this
0:24:21this girl is so into the one person the
0:24:23cast who has a good head on her
0:24:24shoulders
0:24:25you wouldn't want your father to lose
0:24:27that job just when everybody decided he
0:24:28was quite a sport
0:24:29yeah I start asking how how how can i
0:24:33was talking a small wheel like him go
0:24:34for the pocket wristwatch of all things
0:24:36anyway I I her mother drives me nuts
0:24:40because she is just it is not a really
0:24:43great performance it is not our or
0:24:45character it's a difficult character to
0:24:47watch she's flighty and silly and
0:24:51pointless and I mean it gets across the
0:24:55fact that she'll be completely destroyed
0:24:57because she loves her she loves her
0:24:59brother so much that but yeah it's um I
0:25:02don't like that character at all
0:25:04yeah we don't hear about how she drove
0:25:05into a streetcar three times and are you
0:25:07but I think the lightness is quite
0:25:10intentional so that so that it's driven
0:25:12home that young Charlie's between a rock
0:25:16and a hard place yes I just don't like I
0:25:17I get why that character exist in that
0:25:20way i just don't really like that I i
0:25:22found that are really incredibly great
0:25:24character
0:25:25it did have the effect of making me
0:25:26think the two charlies are like i said
0:25:28at the top of the show the smartest
0:25:31people the sharpest people in this
0:25:32family by far i can see why they feel
0:25:35they have a connection because you know
0:25:38they're not sporting a new watch at the
0:25:40bank or doing whatever the heck it is
0:25:42that the mom is doing which is and the
0:25:45mom has that one moment of clarity right
0:25:46after the attempted murder in the garage
0:25:49where she's trying to piece it together
0:25:52in your oh you're so closer to 0 we
0:25:56asked you to think you have to agree
0:25:58with you on how she's extremely
0:25:59irritating but I do know that the scene
0:26:01where uh where the detectives are still
0:26:05trying to pull off their whole service
0:26:06commentary was regretting it because
0:26:08there's a 45-minute discussion about the
0:26:11proper time to break eggs and cake yeah
0:26:14you don't want to miss it hilarious that
0:26:15isn't like I can't cream the butter
0:26:17after I've broken the hay know let's
0:26:19let's linger on this though it is like a
0:26:21Monty Python cielo daughter documentary
0:26:24weekend for a documentary today
0:26:27come on
0:26:27yeah I don't know you can't photograph
0:26:29that Chad so we got the new sub clip
0:26:31cover over it but you're welcome to go
0:26:33film me as I wick egg in the remake
0:26:36cherry jones would play that part doing
0:26:39anything right the x-jet so uncle
0:26:42Charlie goes to give a speech
0:26:43yeah greatest coach ever leaving young
0:26:46Charlie behind since she nearly
0:26:47asphyxiated so why not you can't go to
0:26:49south and she nicely manipulates the
0:26:52situation this is the moment where she
0:26:53gets the upper hand on him she makes it
0:26:55so he has to go give the speech and she
0:26:57because he tried to kill her gets to
0:26:59stay behind unguarded in the house and
0:27:01go through his things and try to find
0:27:03incriminating evidence it's a really
0:27:04really nice moment where she yeah she
0:27:07maneuvers him and he knows she's doing
0:27:09it and there's nothing he can do about
0:27:11it and the incriminating evidence as it
0:27:13turns out is this ring that he gave her
0:27:15earlier in the movie and that that he
0:27:18then
0:27:18well she gave it back to him because she
0:27:21was disgusted give it back or did she
0:27:22just leave it at the library and it went
0:27:24in the library lost and found I feel
0:27:26better okay left it at the bar your you
0:27:28know and uh the ring has the engravings
0:27:33of one of the different window victims
0:27:37I guess I i was thinking charlie you
0:27:39know Uncle Charlie's really great
0:27:40shopping on a budget because it turns
0:27:43out that you can you can give away
0:27:44almost anything after you murdered
0:27:45somebody
0:27:46uh-huh one and that the the ring thing
0:27:49one of the things i love about this i
0:27:51mean because i love the exposition news
0:27:52network on the radio the newspaper that
0:27:55she finds at the library is so
0:27:57beautifully written it's not at all like
0:28:00a newspaper not be written but it tells
0:28:02you everything you need to know
0:28:04including the only victim whose initials
0:28:08match the ring
0:28:09none of the other victims we never learn
0:28:11anything else about any of them and the
0:28:13movie lingers on it for so long because
0:28:15you're expected to read every order oreo
0:28:17do that that's why you have to subscribe
0:28:19to the plot advancement Tribune that's
0:28:22right because it moves things right
0:28:24along
0:28:24yes we learn for all of her intellect
0:28:26Nancy is apparently a very slow reader
0:28:29can we also keep some praise upon that
0:28:32wonderful actress who played the part of
0:28:34the waitress who that who was it was it
0:28:37was in her class in high school never
0:28:39left out
0:28:40oh I can that's a real die that's a real
0:28:43emerald gee I can always tell that's not
0:28:45looking at it I don't even have to put
0:28:47it aside and have to ask you if it's
0:28:49real she had dirt on someone at the
0:28:51studio
0:28:52yeah either that or you're was her
0:28:54acting coach don't mind me
0:28:58I enjoy whatever duh now she was that
0:29:00was again I think that's a beautiful
0:29:02small town touch ya somethin yes
0:29:04rear-ended broken-down she's a sort of
0:29:06character that Bruce Springsteen sings
0:29:08about in songs i like the librarians I
0:29:11can't let you in i got a ride ology only
0:29:13five minutes and then you get the sense
0:29:15that this is like one of the smartest
0:29:16kids in town and she's always the
0:29:18library is Michael okay Charlie for you
0:29:20but if I let you in all those other
0:29:22hordes of people trying to get into the
0:29:23library after hours will have to be let
0:29:25in
0:29:26no I like 1i let one of you in I'm gonna
0:29:28have to let our right fine you got five
0:29:30minutes to get him I'm just kidding
0:29:32nobody else comes to the ones nobody
0:29:33else ever been to this library also have
0:29:35to just Charlie I have a friend who's a
0:29:37librarian and he easiest the librarian
0:29:40is the secret hero of them
0:29:42it's the little kid that's always
0:29:44reading ivanhoe that's in the library
0:29:46all the time yeah we have been talking
0:29:47about and how she's the Greek chorus of
0:29:49this movie even getting really good shot
0:29:51struck what time the library closes what
0:29:53did you do should know how much as you
0:29:55should
0:29:56that that would be Chekhov's library
0:29:58hours if you mention the library hours
0:30:00it has to come back
0:30:01she's got the smart little sister who is
0:30:03always commenting on the action that is
0:30:05happening in the movie which is I'm
0:30:07Ellie cousin Oliver I like to think of a
0:30:09complete with less uncle Charlie
0:30:11finishes his speech speech ever greatest
0:30:14speech ever
0:30:15there's a party downstairs and that and
0:30:19we're all invited
0:30:20yeah we are all invited the Episcopalian
0:30:23his ministers there and is often nothing
0:30:25for me and my wife thanks I that's very
0:30:28forward of the minutes but the rest of
0:30:30you should get loaded
0:30:31yeah pretend like we're not here ok well
0:30:34we won't see um because the clergy don't
0:30:36drink
0:30:37apparently anyhow two hours it's at this
0:30:40point that young Charlie soccer is down
0:30:42to chill
0:30:42down the stairs prominently displaying
0:30:45the ring that she is yes which is when
0:30:48Uncle Charlie says well the house and I
0:30:52hate to break it did you break it to you
0:30:54like yeah just gotta pick up the town
0:30:55widow and i'll be out here huh you don't
0:30:59want to leave town without a window that
0:31:00so yeah like that's gonna drag it was
0:31:04careless like milano cookies you may as
0:31:06well eat consume all the ones in that
0:31:08little layer and they take it out get
0:31:10what you see more widows goodness grand
0:31:12I mean you can't just one exactly the
0:31:15next day Charlie uncle Charlie is
0:31:17boarding the train out of town stupidly
0:31:20now he invites the kids to come on the
0:31:22train to see them off stupidly Charlie
0:31:24gets on the train with them
0:31:26yeah that this is the one really dumb
0:31:29things that the Charlie does movie not
0:31:33well I i really think so this is the one
0:31:35thing where he can't come on Charlie
0:31:37you're you're in full possession of the
0:31:39facts and you get on the train with your
0:31:41your murderous uncle and so yeah but
0:31:43she's protecting the kids the kids
0:31:45yeah I guess so and he does the matador
0:31:47thing where you like let the kids run
0:31:49along and it's like stop and then i'm
0:31:51not sure why she protects the kids
0:31:53because they're both horrible and really
0:31:55hard with anyone missed them know how
0:31:58many dads gonna be more concerned with
0:32:00his newspaper i'm not sure that the dad
0:32:02and mom would even notice they were gone
0:32:03for a couple of months while the mother
0:32:05certainly would but there's some little
0:32:07ones around here is my newspapers so
0:32:10much straighter now that they're wait a
0:32:12minute the kids are missing my brother
0:32:13is gone we left again I cannot stand it
0:32:17why don't care it's like I don't do the
0:32:19hot children with my brother is gone but
0:32:23human Cronin is there ya go whoo crowd
0:32:27they're using you know if I i put some
0:32:29baking powder in that cake instead of
0:32:31soda will be like always it uncle
0:32:34Charlie makes it so that the train is
0:32:35pulling out and Charlie's still on the
0:32:37train because it becomes quite prepared
0:32:39he's gonna throw her off the during just
0:32:41as soon as it gets up to speed but
0:32:43there's a struggle on young Charlie
0:32:46manages to grab onto a solid handle and
0:32:50uncle Charlie staggers off in fosston
0:32:52front of it
0:32:53oncoming train badly timed oncoming
0:32:55train
0:32:56bad luck for uncle Charlie there and
0:32:58he's dead
0:33:00yep that the entire town turns out to
0:33:02mourn him I young Charlie stands outside
0:33:05with FBI agent dark square jaw and and
0:33:09she says basically yeah he was terrible
0:33:13and he's dead now and you're the only
0:33:15one who knows how terribly was and and
0:33:18that's the end of the no no and that and
0:33:20then I can't believe we didn't mention
0:33:23at one point before the attempt on her
0:33:25life to love directional square just
0:33:29announces that he's in love with her
0:33:31yeah and it's known her for roughly two
0:33:33I don't want to go back to Washington
0:33:35you'll see me back but i'm not going to
0:33:37be here on business being an FBI agent
0:33:39is boring
0:33:40I just assume that's par for the course
0:33:41because this is in 1943 movie where
0:33:44heaven forfend there's a weave is going
0:33:47to marry you know exactly just comes out
0:33:49of nowhere although i do like the fact
0:33:51that he professed his love for her and
0:33:52she and she's like well you know never
0:33:54nice but I don't know and then but but
0:33:58then this is what happens when she is
0:34:00there alone and can call the cops he's
0:34:04nowhere to be found
0:34:05because he's I don't know he's not in
0:34:07fresno at that hotel but he said he was
0:34:09going to be at he's got a girl in every
0:34:11town where he investigates murder yeah
0:34:13but it again it's creepy because she's
0:34:16theoretically and he again seems like
0:34:18he's in his mid to late thirties so well
0:34:20that's the standard it was before do it
0:34:22existed you know near death at that
0:34:25point from some reasonable that the
0:34:29black death I think I'm bad humors
0:34:32ticket oh we're touching on the thing
0:34:33that I that I love the most about this
0:34:35movie though as opposed to later
0:34:37Hitchcock is that Charlie Teresa Wright
0:34:40is really in charge of her own destiny
0:34:43and in charge of her own salvation
0:34:44whereas later Hitchcock movies that the
0:34:47treatment of women is kind of a tough
0:34:50ball because but your psychos in your
0:34:53birds are basically Grace Kelly didn't
0:34:55love me show you must suffer to be angry
0:34:58whereas in this one square jaw can't
0:35:02save her she has to save herself and she
0:35:04she is the agent of her own
0:35:07rescue she she she figures out how to
0:35:10trap uncle Charlie and and and i really
0:35:13like that I think it's unusual among
0:35:15Hitchcock pictures particularly among
0:35:17the better-known Hitchcock pictures it
0:35:20Hitchcock brunettes fare better than
0:35:21Hitchcock blondes well absolutely
0:35:24yeah we reach the end of the of the
0:35:26synopsis what am I i obviously
0:35:28interrupted feel about 90 times I to get
0:35:31their of so what I want to ask before we
0:35:35you know move on to our next movie we
0:35:36should talk what we think about this
0:35:39movie as a whole we can we can point out
0:35:40some of the amusing things about it but
0:35:42what did what did you all think of the
0:35:45movie all all told Steve what about you
0:35:48I'm kind of two minds about it I you
0:35:50know the direction was great i really
0:35:52like the use of shadow in a lot of
0:35:54places since this movie has shadow in
0:35:56the title you have shadows in the film
0:35:58naturally I thought it was nicely tense
0:36:01and you know it ratcheted up pretty much
0:36:05throughout which I enjoyed I felt like
0:36:07the plot though could have been a lot
0:36:08better and I'm i'm going to blame it on
0:36:10Thornton Wilder because it was forced to
0:36:12read our town twice and twice about it I
0:36:14i feel like the film would have been a
0:36:17lot more effective if there had been
0:36:19some question as to Uncle Charlie's
0:36:21guilt and we weren't intimately aware
0:36:23early on that he was you know a murder
0:36:26he could still be creepy but he doesn't
0:36:27necessarily have to be so obviously it
0:36:29would be guilty of crimes but not
0:36:31horrible murders and material and your
0:36:34you kind of hope that he is and then
0:36:35later on it would be interesting if
0:36:38there was some question as to whether he
0:36:39was really responsible for the accidents
0:36:41that keep me falling young Charlie but
0:36:43again it's made abundantly clear that
0:36:46he's the one who you know locks her into
0:36:48the garage so I felt like it that could
0:36:50have made things a lot more interesting
0:36:51i can end that is a byproduct of 1943
0:36:54probably probably it's probably just a
0:36:57they didn't want to make it to complex
0:36:59since you know the audiences were less
0:37:01jaded and it by other problem is is that
0:37:05it defies belief for me that anyone in
0:37:08town would not become suspicious of a
0:37:09guy who routinely launches into
0:37:11diatribes about horrible that feel
0:37:13greedy women and
0:37:14our table and almost you know starts
0:37:17starts accusing the father of
0:37:20embezzlement loudly at the bank
0:37:22yeah as though it's in a joking manner
0:37:24and does something similar to the bank
0:37:27president so I couldn't help but notice
0:37:29gosh she really enjoys miming strangling
0:37:32thing is that they were not wrong hands
0:37:36I think a lot of that is it is thrown in
0:37:40basically too well uncle Charlie he
0:37:43tells he has his jokes and and it's also
0:37:47told from the perspective of young
0:37:49Charlie where where she's seen these
0:37:51things through the eyes of a god he's
0:37:53really a box during these these are
0:37:55jokes these are terrible things
0:37:57why can't you people see i also find
0:38:00Charlie to be kind of a drip right
0:38:02nobody's no no no we're gonna find the
0:38:06only dripping this movie is FBI agent x
0:38:08squared and then she's a drip in the
0:38:10opening so gay which are I think young
0:38:12Charlie's first scene is so depressing
0:38:14haha
0:38:15there's nothing interesting in this town
0:38:17with all in a roxy is like you know
0:38:19granted stereo typical teenager
0:38:21uh-huh well but 18 come on 18 time to
0:38:24begin over that note nobody teenager or
0:38:28not who is remotely intelligent isn't
0:38:30going to rat out Charlie after the first
0:38:32or second time he's tried to kill her
0:38:34yes I just I find that hard to believe
0:38:36as well yeah but nobody would believe
0:38:38that's something right like oh yeah sure
0:38:39he cracked the state you know cut the
0:38:41stairs that why wouldn't a believer and
0:38:43why wouldn't she at least making a
0:38:44because everybody loves uncle Charlie
0:38:47I'm I don't think that's true though yet
0:38:49you gave the best speech ever in santa
0:38:50rosa concerned that's the whole thing I
0:38:52think defies belief me I enjoyed the
0:38:54movie let me just say that I i think
0:38:57overall it was the the direction and the
0:38:59tension were enough to carry it for me
0:39:01but you know i would like to see the
0:39:04plot be a little deeper and and less
0:39:07obviously false to my to my eyes anyway
0:39:11well I think we've learned that uncle
0:39:12Charlie is the only monster here and he
0:39:16wanted to go next
0:39:17I just right yeah I i agree with all
0:39:19that i think i like the movie I is I
0:39:22thought that was a classic example of a
0:39:25movie where
0:39:26you love all the pieces of this you just
0:39:29wish the pieces fit together a little
0:39:31bit more cleanly first edit in addition
0:39:34to the examples that are even cited when
0:39:37the you know
0:39:38assistant inspector Fred Mertz like
0:39:41takes Charlie sighs and now we're
0:39:43closing in on them so you know if he's
0:39:45gonna run away heels he's only gonna
0:39:47have a few hours to do that so I want to
0:39:49tell you about this because you know
0:39:51I've just been hit in the head with a
0:39:53coconut see and i forgot that I'm
0:39:55actually trying to capture him
0:39:56I'm about to I'm probably be hit by
0:39:58another coconut to remember that I'm
0:40:00supposed to be catching so you really
0:40:02should go and warn him right away I'm
0:40:03this is when I started thinking that oh
0:40:05so is this a double-cross is there are
0:40:08these not actual investigators there are
0:40:11actually the killers or associates of
0:40:13the killers and when you turns out that
0:40:15wasn't that was just know kind of a
0:40:18character doing dumb things that are
0:40:20contrary to their own purpose
0:40:21you're under oh ok i really wish that
0:40:23someone had circled that that page of
0:40:26the script and put a big red ? on it and
0:40:28handed it back to hitch
0:40:29all right Monty what do you think I
0:40:32thought it was a gorgeously shot movie
0:40:33like Steve said the shadows are great
0:40:36there's one scene on the top of the
0:40:39staircase where for no real reason
0:40:42they're just this amazing cabinet of dr.
0:40:45Caligari lighting going on the back wall
0:40:47and i also like to I think Charlie's on
0:40:50the phone and we're supposed to be given
0:40:53the impression that the phone calls have
0:40:55been going on for a while it's just fade
0:40:57to black
0:40:57they back up with Cameron farther back
0:40:59and in a completely random spot an angle
0:41:02and that happens a couple of time
0:41:03whether that was really effective
0:41:05I'm not sure whether this was a joke on
0:41:07purpose but remember that newspaper
0:41:10we're talking about when Charlie says
0:41:12going to fold a house heat air makes to
0:41:15tears in the paper starts to fold we cut
0:41:18away to the kid and then three seconds
0:41:21later there's this amazing paper mache
0:41:23and again he's good over there
0:41:28there are six papers delivered every
0:41:30single day they had they so much time so
0:41:32much of this material to figure out of
0:41:34clever things with he's got the strong
0:41:36strangling hands
0:41:37they're good at origami the newspaper
0:41:39industry was different than money
0:41:41I guess simplest most of the sales were
0:41:43for manufacturers of pirate hats paper
0:41:45houses boats i mostly like the movie i
0:41:48do have a lot of concerns about mostly
0:41:50just that newspaper scene because he's
0:41:54so bad at covering his tracks
0:41:57I'm not a baby uncle Charlie well that
0:41:59combined with his rants about how
0:42:01windows are bad and should die i think
0:42:03our to decide if you wanted to keep it
0:42:05on the down low but nobody noticed that
0:42:07with the newspaper even these idiots
0:42:09were like what are you doing hiding
0:42:11something
0:42:12hey there's a page missing you missing a
0:42:13page that newspaper
0:42:15hey everybody its gonna flip out early
0:42:17had this paper and there's a painting
0:42:19this thing folded nice and dad won't
0:42:21notice actually there's a really good
0:42:22chance that dad was only 26 pages in
0:42:24this newspaper
0:42:25it's a very small this week McNamara's
0:42:27missing well that's across is that that
0:42:30he is an uncontrollable maniac right i
0:42:32mean he can't he can't stop his urges
0:42:35he's going to kill the widows and tear
0:42:38newspapers that's what he's going to do
0:42:40and you know other widows yeah I liked
0:42:44it yeah yeah good David what about you
0:42:47I mean I've like this 14 years I I can
0:42:51you know i love look visually and love
0:42:55you know again the shadows the
0:42:57staircases i love the fact that usually
0:43:01Hitchcock lets you see characters think
0:43:03so you know you see just gotten thinking
0:43:06on the staircase for a minute you see
0:43:08the you know in the beginning when he
0:43:10just walks right past the the guys
0:43:12waiting on the street corner for him and
0:43:15and you see them think for a minute ago
0:43:17is that the guy we should follow let's
0:43:19follow and you know so heat so he lets
0:43:22you see the characters think for a
0:43:24minute
0:43:24they may not all be capable of thinking
0:43:26but still you know and one things that I
0:43:31i noticed this time through who the
0:43:35parallels between the Charlie's in the
0:43:37beginning the first time we see both of
0:43:39them they're lying in bed and they're
0:43:42just when someone else is talking to
0:43:43them and drawing things out of them and
0:43:46as the movie goes on you know you know
0:43:49she makes the point of
0:43:50oh I I was that's why I was named for
0:43:53right and we have something in common
0:43:55and I can sense things that you keep
0:43:57secret and I know things about you know
0:43:59we have this connection and and we know
0:44:02through the movie they diverge but in
0:44:05the beginning it's very clear that there
0:44:07they have this bond so that i think is
0:44:09also part of why she doesn't she takes
0:44:12so long to come to recesses and more and
0:44:15more about you
0:44:16i like it like a lot of these folks I i
0:44:19really enjoyed the execution of it it's
0:44:21a great-looking film I think Joseph
0:44:22Cotten entries right both to awesome in
0:44:25this movie that is fantastic for
0:44:26especially just got a new appears
0:44:28between the like charming debonair
0:44:31dashing fellow and really scarily
0:44:33psychotic guy because there's some good
0:44:36scenes you know especially like when she
0:44:38digs out the piece of newspaper from his
0:44:41jacket and we get the you know trademark
0:44:43Hitchcock POV seymour really you know
0:44:45where the camera and we're looking at
0:44:46him and you see this entire face sort of
0:44:47collapse and you get angry and starts
0:44:49yelling you know and ask the audience
0:44:51essentially at that point is where the
0:44:52stand-in he does such a good job of
0:44:54going back and forth just
0:44:55instantaneously between being terrifying
0:44:58and supercharged like maybe a little
0:45:00sleet charming but like you know
0:45:02friendly and jovial and so II and even
0:45:07the other characters i think if you even
0:45:08if they don't seem to quite fit and they
0:45:10are a little ridiculous at times I still
0:45:12enjoy most of them i really like a
0:45:15hundred traverse as the father just
0:45:18because he's got a very matter-of-fact
0:45:19way of talking about think I just enjoy
0:45:21i really enjoy his inhuman Cronin's
0:45:23discussions of the murder it's just
0:45:26they're just so delightfully charming
0:45:27because it is this whole idea of this is
0:45:29it's a boring little town nothing ever
0:45:32happens here you know and and all the
0:45:34people are nice and and picturesque in
0:45:36the the family surveys come around
0:45:38because they want the typical American
0:45:39family and yet always talking about
0:45:41murder and terrible things all the time
0:45:43and I think it's just you know it's a
0:45:45great commentary i love it
0:45:47all right fill up i guess i need to fill
0:45:49in the blanks here and say I liked it I
0:45:51liked some of the comments here I I sort
0:45:55of see this and think it could have been
0:45:57even better if and maybe you know it was
0:45:59just of the time and it was going to be
0:46:01what it was going to be but I I feel
0:46:03like your moments where it could have
0:46:04even better at doing the things that did
0:46:06well and yeah the mom really annoyed be
0:46:08and i found the FB hi to be amusingly
0:46:12incompetent especially when you throw in
0:46:14the declaration of love that happens
0:46:15later in the film i love you Charlie
0:46:16that was just a few terrible bizarre i
0:46:19was like falling in love with all of my
0:46:21cut
0:46:22but this is this film is about the leads
0:46:24and they're great
0:46:25so that's all I think Phil what you
0:46:26bring it home well as I said I I laid my
0:46:29cards on the table early i think this is
0:46:31Hitchcock's best movie i love the the
0:46:34small-town elements of it and as as I
0:46:37think even this film's harshest critics
0:46:39will point out i think Joseph Cotten and
0:46:41and uh Teresa Wright do a do a fantastic
0:46:45job playing off each other in it it
0:46:49really is a fantastic movie i think in
0:46:52many respects and I I i do love how the
0:46:54tension builds throughout I got a couple
0:46:57of favorite lines i gotta throw out
0:46:58there before we move on I like the line
0:47:00where and is hopping on the sidewalk and
0:47:02she says proudly to the detective I
0:47:04brought my mother's back three times in
0:47:06his response is not bad
0:47:08step on a crack break your mother's back
0:47:10yep i just really like it's just your
0:47:12father's way of relaxing for the
0:47:14discussion about murder
0:47:16yeah the other line i wanted to mention
0:47:18was at the end where they're discussing
0:47:20what transpired the detective and young
0:47:22Charlie and the did Dirk square job
0:47:25states that the world seems to go crazy
0:47:27every now and then like your uncle
0:47:29Charlie fact real tactful Graham realtek
0:47:33one line that entertained me not for the
0:47:36shallow reason you think was wine for
0:47:39dinner sounds so gay
0:47:41no it's not because of that just because
0:47:44what else are you drinking wine yeah
0:47:46that was that was that was that
0:47:48yes did not not just the the use of
0:47:50words then and now but for the idea of
0:47:53like normally we just eat cardboard and
0:47:56drink tap water we drink our wine
0:47:58starting at eleven o'clock in the
0:48:00morning i feel it's true for most of the
0:48:02members of this family
0:48:03I'm not talking about murder i'm talking
0:48:04about me killing her and her giving me
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0:49:52speaking a murder
0:49:53let's talk about road adapted by human
0:49:56crewman yeah there's your connection
0:49:58take the plan adapted for the screen for
0:50:02his good friend out there is a
0:50:03connection between these two
0:50:05yes interesting yes so people who were
0:50:07in it's a wonderful less automatic
0:50:08connection to him crown and who is pitch
0:50:12cocks music apparently there's not to be
0:50:16much plot recap here because there's no
0:50:18plot this is the this is a the bottle
0:50:21episode of Hitchcock movies yes
0:50:23you want to spend one of two one of two
0:50:25lifeboat being the iphone is the other
0:50:28one it's a Colombo that's exactly what i
0:50:30thought this is sunshine colombo yeah he
0:50:32even walks out and then comes back in
0:50:35yeah yeah yeah she's I hate to bother
0:50:38you but one watching one more thing I
0:50:41forgot to mention I was 11 my life that
0:50:45i forgot to mention that you've
0:50:46misinterpreted my lectures about the
0:50:48inhumanity of man and heavy right to
0:50:50kill admit I didn't really mean it like
0:50:52that i feel really bad i hate to but I
0:50:55need to check the trunk now I got used
0:50:56to have a chest just like this it could
0:50:59I look inside this chest because it
0:51:01would be shuttered members for me as a
0:51:03child I should play with this catch
0:51:06I know mrs. never comes to these kind of
0:51:09party i know i said everybody should be
0:51:10murdered but I didn't mean everybody
0:51:12should be murdered
0:51:13I don't feel like I have to recap it
0:51:16yeah we're done
0:51:17so it's a baby basically Brandon and
0:51:20Phillip are our two are are are a gay
0:51:24couple good friends good friends so they
0:51:27are an accessory little bit this is I
0:51:29love em it's never discussed but it's
0:51:31just they're having students some
0:51:32reading on this movie and it talks about
0:51:34well the homosexual subtext I scraped
0:51:36out some subjects
0:51:38oh no it is not i gotta be honest I did
0:51:42not I did not get that initially in fact
0:51:45the only reason the only because they're
0:51:46fresh out of college they could very
0:51:48easily be respect and just bury and is
0:51:51talking about how he previously dated
0:51:52Janet the oh oh yeah yeah so anyway
0:51:57they're they're very they're a couple
0:51:58and they have this apartment in there
0:52:00they've planned to some amazing apart
0:52:02and when we first see them they are
0:52:03strangling somebody to death
0:52:05this is the thing if you're complaining
0:52:07about shadow of a doubt is boy they
0:52:09really didn't leave much in the way of
0:52:10doubt as to what their uncle Charlie's
0:52:12but they don't have this will know this
0:52:15because this is colombo that's the whole
0:52:17point of this movie that opening shot
0:52:18right as soon as the soon as the credits
0:52:21and they are strengthening their 330
0:52:23incidentally david i-i love how idyllic
0:52:26the music is during the opening credits
0:52:28like the opening credits music yes it
0:52:30sounds like this is going to be a lovely
0:52:31piano Rob through mr. shadow of a doubt
0:52:35to but it's getting late
0:52:36he's here because that gigantic dramatic
0:52:39title card that says rope in the crazy
0:52:41fog comes up and then this string swell
0:52:43and it's sort of a lovely lilt no it
0:52:46doesn't go dark until we pan into you
0:52:48know the apartment essentially it's like
0:52:50although the curtains are drawn that's a
0:52:51little we all god somebody's being
0:52:53strangled right now has somehow
0:52:55streaming as he's being strangled which
0:52:57is a bit odd I thought yeah
0:52:59yes so so the the conceited this movie
0:53:02is that the entire film other than the
0:53:05opening shot where there's a there's a
0:53:06cut if robert zemeckis had been directed
0:53:09miss it would have gone through that
0:53:10window and through those curtains and
0:53:12all the way in but Hitchcock just cuts
0:53:14from me from the outside to the inside
0:53:16but we spend the entire time in this
0:53:19apartment the entire film is there it is
0:53:21the bottle episode but but not just the
0:53:24location but the fact that these are
0:53:26continuous takes each goes for about 10
0:53:28minutes and then we we linger for a
0:53:30moment to ponder the back of somebody's
0:53:32can assume into somebody's jacket yeah
0:53:34there are several cuts though which is
0:53:36we always strange me because I think
0:53:38they go unnoticed refuse because it you
0:53:40kind of went out but there are several
0:53:41just like jump cuts yet are slow
0:53:44charging but but purposeful in the
0:53:46replacement like i said i think those
0:53:48actually probably are better than the
0:53:49zoom into the jacket shot yeah I don't
0:53:51like a turd in a punch but the gimmick
0:53:53cuts are super distracting to me because
0:53:55I spent the whole movie watching for
0:53:57them the jump cuts are because they had
0:53:59to physically change the real story is
0:54:01in the projectors so he he said I don't
0:54:03need to cover those they have to change
0:54:05them anyway so Brandt Brandon Phillips I
0:54:08have committed what they what they hope
0:54:10is the perfect murder for certain values
0:54:13of murderers as as John doll who plays
0:54:15Brandon says over and over and we pause
0:54:19here and examine how this could possibly
0:54:21be the perfect murder when they have
0:54:23absolutely no plan other than kill the
0:54:25guy
0:54:26well you take advantage of the country
0:54:27and cook in Connecticut and then you
0:54:29just dump his body in the lake and never
0:54:31know I i think their arguments they have
0:54:33no motive that they have they have no
0:54:35motive also also they've got they've
0:54:37phoned from the done a fake phone call
0:54:39from the city to say that
0:54:41hi I'm David I'm definitely alive and
0:54:43i'll definitely see you three hours
0:54:45later went to disguise where they are i
0:54:47think there's a lot of this plot we
0:54:48haven't we
0:54:49get the sea but I think the best thing
0:54:51would be completely completely
0:54:52appropriate this guy's arrogance is just
0:54:54that it's perfect is that I've seen I've
0:54:56looked small angles and only Son my
0:54:58genius could ya that's what happened
0:55:00with Leopold and Loeb is there yeah they
0:55:02had the perfect murder and it fell apart
0:55:04immediately even for that if if even if
0:55:08it had the initial part had worked out
0:55:10it's so unbelievably poor of a plan
0:55:12there's no way they could possibly have
0:55:14gotten away with it it's absurd yeah
0:55:15they're basically Batman villains one of
0:55:17the closest friends GI who are we going
0:55:19to question they go out of their way to
0:55:21invite people to the scene of the crime
0:55:22people that are looking for the person
0:55:25who's dead
0:55:26that's for arrogance that's the showing
0:55:28off this is the crux of the movie that's
0:55:30not a mistake that is here here it was a
0:55:33mistake i said it was like being a
0:55:34Batman villain take a look at the kind
0:55:35of people were dealing with here that
0:55:37it's not enough that they would just
0:55:38simply kill somebody for stored they
0:55:40would also want to make sure that if
0:55:42that they know that
0:55:43oh my god we actually had the body out
0:55:45in the middle of the room and nobody
0:55:47knew it aren't we brilliant yes this
0:55:49this is an rands dead poets society
0:55:51let's put let's put candles on it let
0:55:54surface lid on it let's invite the
0:55:57parents to the party give the dad the
0:56:01murder weapon exactly arguing
0:56:03surprisingly loud voice about the murder
0:56:05in full view day uh they shove poor poor
0:56:10David's body into a trunk and then
0:56:12decide hey we're gonna have a dinner
0:56:14party let's serve dinner on the trunk
0:56:15and as jason says they put the
0:56:17candelabras up there and they've invited
0:56:20David's father and what turns out to be
0:56:23his Dowager aunt I guess they've invited
0:56:26David's girlfriend invited the former
0:56:29boyfriend of David's girlfriend and most
0:56:32importantly they've invited the beloved
0:56:34a headmaster from their prep school who
0:56:37is played by Jimmy Stewart to attend the
0:56:40party as well and Jimmy's that was their
0:56:44first mistake never bring Jimmy story
0:56:46ya ever bring Jimmy Stewart to any party
0:56:49well did you love David because you know
0:56:51I understand you have to kill him that
0:56:53haha call back to earlier that's his
0:56:57deep cut I spent much of the movie
0:56:58confusing John doll for
0:57:00young Jimmy Stewart I i think the it's
0:57:03interesting the day and they talk about
0:57:04him as a potential co-conspirator and
0:57:07then right at but uh but uh who's the I
0:57:11who's the idea man is that is that
0:57:13Brandon Brandon is bringing yeah
0:57:15Brandon's the idea man Brandon's like I
0:57:17he wouldn't have the guts to pull it off
0:57:19you know we he believes in it from an
0:57:22idea standpoint but not he couldn't
0:57:24actually do it but i like that they have
0:57:26this fantasy that that Jimmy Stewart is
0:57:29one of them or almost one of them and
0:57:32they invite him sort of glee of like oh
0:57:35he gets to be part of this thing the
0:57:37idea sort of germinated in long
0:57:38discussions they had with him and he was
0:57:40there housemaster right so now that
0:57:42they're his ideas that they're putting
0:57:44into practice here I did they get sad
0:57:46that poor Farley Granger is always
0:57:47getting talked into murdering people
0:57:48actually know you know once is an
0:57:52accident by strangers on the train yes
0:57:58that's but that's the other genius of
0:58:00love just how this is constructed where
0:58:01you feel as though it's not unjust
0:58:04enough for this guy to plot a murder
0:58:06committed murder just for fun and then
0:58:08again have the dinner party with the
0:58:10body of the open
0:58:11he also is getting this big rise out of
0:58:13i have basically talked and browbeat
0:58:15this person into being my accomplice in
0:58:17this murder even though he has apps he
0:58:19does not share my belief system that
0:58:21people should die for my amusement
0:58:23I mean there's there's a little bit of a
0:58:24corollary between him and uncle Charlie
0:58:27I think from shadow of a doubt like both
0:58:28of whom kind of seem to believe that
0:58:29they are above above morals no I don't
0:58:33know I i feel as though you're Charlie's
0:58:35just seriously bent whereas this person
0:58:38is just such as as a psychopathic
0:58:40behavior and so yeah he's really
0:58:41grounded
0:58:42well he's on his way he's younger me as
0:58:45if there's a there's a difference
0:58:46between like the deserts of seeing the
0:58:48entire world is pray
0:58:50meaning that i'm a killing stalking
0:58:52beast that kills furfrou but if if
0:58:54you've got something that costs eighty
0:58:56dollars and I need that a dar think
0:58:57you're dead because that's what's power
0:58:59value human life it's another thing to
0:59:01simply say im bored I think I'll kill
0:59:03that person because the internet was
0:59:04attended the whole experiment the whole
0:59:06like rationale given by jimmy stewart is
0:59:08are talking about murder is justifiable
0:59:10way of what you want you want to get
0:59:11into the restaurant you
0:59:13get theater tickets like I think that
0:59:14the there is a overriding philosophy
0:59:17thereof you know it feels like
0:59:18everybody's stupid should be he should
0:59:20be able to kill anybody stupid that he
0:59:21wants to like he may not be at uncle
0:59:23Charlie levels yet of thinking the whole
0:59:25world's a joke but like if he kept going
0:59:27for a while he would definitely end up
0:59:29there
0:59:29well I mean that's part of why he's
0:59:31invited the the former boyfriend of the
0:59:34girl friend is like well if we get David
0:59:35out of the way they're actually a better
0:59:37couple you know we'll we'll shove them
0:59:39back together and it's it's all social
0:59:42engineering
0:59:43although I mean not there anything that
0:59:44he cares about right like he doesn't
0:59:46actually care about the happiness of
0:59:47either of those people right you just
0:59:49want to be manipulative exactly i think
0:59:51that might have been part of his plan
0:59:52though to cover for what why isn't David
0:59:54hero well he must have known that I was
0:59:56gonna be here so we just decided not to
0:59:58come that too or that you did
0:59:58come that too or that you did
1:00:00invite him because you just want to
1:00:01manipulate us into like being feeling
1:00:03awkward about the fact that we used to
1:00:05be in a relationship
1:00:06my favorite thing in this is probably
1:00:08the scene where and you know this
1:00:11happens at several points where the
1:00:12cameras view is not where the action is
1:00:15yeah or at least not when attacking not
1:00:18where the talking is and it is an animal
1:00:20and the bettin it happened several times
1:00:21the best one is as we very slowly watch
1:00:25the housekeeper's still cleaning up the
1:00:29stronger because she's going to take all
1:00:30the stuff off of the trunk and then open
1:00:32the trunk and put all the books in the
1:00:34trunk with thereby revealing the dead
1:00:36body one of the best suspense moments i
1:00:38think in any Hitchcock it's just amazing
1:00:40and there's no music and it's just a
1:00:42conversation and she walks all the way
1:00:44down the hall she's so smitten kitchen
1:00:47walks all the way better walks all the
1:00:48way down the hall again you know it's
1:00:50just it's enjoyed every time she gets a
1:00:52little closer your breath catches in
1:00:53this conversation happening and you have
1:00:55at several points in this film this
1:00:57overlapped conversation sorry Robert
1:00:58Altman asked in bits and it's like the
1:01:01point is not it's a dinner party let
1:01:02people are having different
1:01:04conversations at different places and
1:01:06that's all the hubbub is happening while
1:01:07we very slowly watch and that is just
1:01:09the realization it starts and it just
1:01:12keeps getting worse and worse that she
1:01:13is going to open that trunk and it's
1:01:16amazing and for people who aren't
1:01:18familiar with the scene it's not as
1:01:19though all they're just gonna have to
1:01:20like lift up the truck it's no it's
1:01:22completely set there's a tablecloth on
1:01:24it like empty their use plates on their
1:01:26candelabra on top of it every single
1:01:28layer it's like okay not going to blow
1:01:30out the candle state the candelabra way
1:01:32walk walk walk walk walk walk away walk
1:01:34back and only take all the guys got this
1:01:37train I'd take all these empty plates
1:01:38walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk
1:01:40walk away it yet all the while you are
1:01:43rushing to the conclusion so that you
1:01:45get there way before she is physically
1:01:47able to get to that point and that
1:01:49creates some amazing suspense it is a
1:01:51fantastic see and the shot ends with the
1:01:54shadow of somebody suddenly walking in
1:01:56which is really impressive when you
1:01:58realize they needed to do special
1:01:59lighting just actually cast a shadow on
1:02:01the ground shot that got me even before
1:02:03that though was actually tweeted up
1:02:06because i was just i just love this shot
1:02:07so much watching us rewatching in the
1:02:09afternoon and those watchin on the iPad
1:02:12and just the shot where ever known ever
1:02:14since the dinner party's in full swing
1:02:16nobody has any suspicion anything's
1:02:18going on and then there's a conversation
1:02:20that there's a casual shot of jimmy
1:02:22stewart and then he just holds on that
1:02:25shot for I had time it out more than 20
1:02:28seconds just count yourself right now
1:02:30not right now but like think about how
1:02:33long 20 seconds really is and imagine
1:02:35that it's just that the cameras not
1:02:37pulling in it's just a static shot of
1:02:38him listening to these two murderers
1:02:40talk idly and you sense that there's
1:02:43this little thing happening in the back
1:02:45of Jimmy stores eyes that's I don't know
1:02:47what's wrong but something's very wrong
1:02:49here and that's the first things i see a
1:02:52thread dangling at the end of this cable
1:02:53knit sweater and keep pulling start
1:02:55pulling on that thread until this whole
1:02:57thing comes apart if I can tip my hand
1:02:59here
1:03:00the reason i picked this movie is
1:03:02because i think it's indicative of
1:03:05Hitchcock's approach to a suspense movie
1:03:07and I'm going to paraphrase a quote that
1:03:11he once said where it basically a good
1:03:14suspense movie is the audience knows
1:03:16that there's a bomb and that it's gonna
1:03:19go off at one o'clock and no one no one
1:03:22on the screen knows that it's gonna go
1:03:24off at one o'clock and they're talking
1:03:25about all these trivial matters and all
1:03:28this the stupidity and the audience is
1:03:30sitting there going to come are doled
1:03:32oh and that and that is basically what
1:03:36he doesn't rope and i followed the way I
1:03:39heard it and I was gonna say this too is
1:03:41that you know if if you show two guys
1:03:43having a conversation at the table and
1:03:45it's the most boring thing in the world
1:03:47and after 10 minutes the table blows up
1:03:49you've got a quick shock and all it blew
1:03:52up
1:03:53but if you start the shot from under the
1:03:54table and you see the bomb and then you
1:03:57come up you the exact same boring
1:03:59conversation but the whole time you like
1:04:01get out of the way it's gonna blow yeah
1:04:04you know in the most boring thing is is
1:04:07exciting of the opening shot of
1:04:10touch of evil or some movie yeah exactly
1:04:12what the bomb in the car i was thinking
1:04:14of inglourious basterds yeah also be out
1:04:16with onion floor
1:04:18yeah like there's this long conversation
1:04:19that doesn't go anywhere but oh god what
1:04:22if you look over there
1:04:23similar i think when i when i watch this
1:04:25for a film class at some point you talk
1:04:27about the difference between surprise
1:04:28and suspense we're just surprised as you
1:04:29know everybody on the screen you know
1:04:31it's the jump scaring in a horror movie
1:04:33where the killer jumps out with a knife
1:04:34right and the people on the screen are
1:04:36surprised and you are also surprised the
1:04:38audience but now like Phillip saying you
1:04:40and the audience have been let in on the
1:04:42secret you know something that the
1:04:43characters don't and that's where the
1:04:44tension starts to exist and that is why
1:04:47he's so good at yeah i think because a
1:04:49psycho and birds Hitchcock wrongly gets
1:04:53painted with the the more movie brush
1:04:55and he doesn't do horror movies he does
1:04:57he does suspense movies and and really
1:04:59does spine movies too
1:05:01yeah where where where it's it's tension
1:05:04and you know what's gonna happen but the
1:05:07characters don't know what's gonna
1:05:09happen and and how in the hell are they
1:05:11gonna get out of this and that's that
1:05:12that that's what makes this movie's
1:05:14interesting what do we never see do we
1:05:17ever see Jimmy Stewart come in
1:05:20no he just appears just appears he's
1:05:23coming down the hall when we are
1:05:24distract we're distracted elsewhere he's
1:05:26been talked about i really like that and
1:05:28then and then he suddenly they're not
1:05:30all that works so effectively probably
1:05:32know season because we know because we
1:05:35know that voice and we know that person
1:05:37i think that i think that's what makes
1:05:38that work but it's great because he's
1:05:40the one they've been kind of waiting to
1:05:41see and it's also the hammer dropping of
1:05:43like here's the complication these other
1:05:45people are probably not a problem
1:05:47this guy is going to be a problem right
1:05:49and they start to get John doll gets
1:05:51nervous he freaks out right Brandon
1:05:52freaks out like you he starts stuttering
1:05:54and Jimmy Stewart notices that Yunis
1:05:56stuttering yeah very excited
1:05:59yeah I was mad about that line he says
1:06:01you always did stutter when you were
1:06:02excited if anyone in the world doesn't
1:06:04get to make fun of someone stuttering
1:06:05it's Jimmy school I just love that it's
1:06:10almost full 20 minutes before even
1:06:12appear yeah and we keep hearing about
1:06:14him and he's the important guests and
1:06:16just like Colombo yeah i like to put in
1:06:19a good word both for John doll hero
1:06:22unfortunate didn't really go on to my
1:06:23chels but he's really likes marmol
1:06:27Ygritte in this role so psychopath again
1:06:30like just disturbed and also i want to
1:06:33put in a really good word for drunk
1:06:35Farley Granger who is my favorite part
1:06:37was nothing just gets increasingly drunk
1:06:41as the camera pans away from it goes
1:06:43back it was just increasingly
1:06:44nonsensical got a John Doe gave me a
1:06:47Cumberbatch kind of ya feel that very
1:06:51similar kind of kind of feeling there I
1:06:53liked him a lot of a reptilian yeah
1:06:55and-and-and yet drunk Phillips trunk
1:06:58Phillip is awesome and so is drunk
1:07:00fairly green happened what increasingly
1:07:05out of control and you know and again
1:07:08you don't want to take Brandon side but
1:07:09you have that moment where you're like I
1:07:11love ya
1:07:12we want to just pop that's funny but you
1:07:15do take you to take brand is I'd almost
1:07:17almost up until the point where Jimmy
1:07:19Stewart returns and does colombo yeah
1:07:22because you're you're wondering how
1:07:24these guys gonna get caught and the
1:07:25tension there is not I hope somebody
1:07:27figures what out what's going on it's
1:07:29actually doesn't yeah everything is
1:07:31alright and then and then Jimmy Stewart
1:07:34turns up again and brandon has a gun and
1:07:36you realize that he's in real danger and
1:07:38then you're on Stuart side is very much
1:07:40like a Colombo also in that you do sort
1:07:44of want to root for the killer you want
1:07:46him to get away with it because you know
1:07:47Colombo is so good and you know he's not
1:07:49gonna get away
1:07:50yeah okay well yes and no I it it did
1:07:53rip it right me of colombo for almost
1:07:55exactly that reason but the thing is
1:07:56something it's not about finding out who
1:07:58the killer is or if you're gonna come to
1:08:00justice because you kind of know that
1:08:02they're going to get caught it really is
1:08:04what are we going to learn about this
1:08:05killer over the course of this these
1:08:09events especially as the pressure mounts
1:08:11and mounts and mounts how are they going
1:08:13to react to it are they going to
1:08:15increase sometimes some of the Colombo's
1:08:17they just increasingly are reason they
1:08:19know that ok I'm on borrowed time but i
1:08:21can do a few things to maybe by myself
1:08:24more time but I know this isn't it is
1:08:25inevitable their self-delusion sometimes
1:08:28and sometimes i'm going to double down
1:08:29on this I but watching watching Philip
1:08:33watching Farley Granger just unspool is
1:08:35exact
1:08:36the reason why you love this but that
1:08:38there's something there's so many
1:08:39there's so many shots there's so many
1:08:41shots you just love about this and some
1:08:43of them were just looks so cheeseball if
1:08:45they were not being done by a master how
1:08:48about he's getting it will have Farley
1:08:50Granger playing piano just sort of like
1:08:52to bleed off some of the tension and
1:08:54look casual and Jimmy Stewart just sort
1:08:56of Saunders off and say oh you're such a
1:08:58good piano player can't believe that I
1:09:00didn't think that we would have a
1:09:01metronome and he starts ticking
1:09:03yeah which is super distracting if
1:09:06you're trying to play piano intro page
1:09:08of dialogue something not just the
1:09:10slider to get go faster and faster and
1:09:13faster and using that Granger is not
1:09:17playing faster but he's making more
1:09:19mistakes now I like oh you just want to
1:09:21rewind and play that back because oh
1:09:24good heavens that is brilliant the great
1:09:26bit there is when it seems like Jimmy
1:09:28Stewart is getting off track and and
1:09:30Phillip starts to laugh and the tempo
1:09:32slows down and it starts you know
1:09:34becoming less and less dissonant and
1:09:36then Rupert kind of gets a little closer
1:09:39to the truth again and it speeds up
1:09:40again and and the whole thing starts a
1:09:42new it's just it's a fantastic scene
1:09:44when just the choreography of this i
1:09:47mean it it was based on stage play and
1:09:49it has the feel of a play
1:09:51yes film which a lot of movies that are
1:09:53adapted darkness
1:09:54it is very staging but the thing I love
1:09:57about it is just just the sheer
1:09:58choreography that had to go into it not
1:10:00just that it was the continuous takes
1:10:03but you know the walls and the furniture
1:10:05sliding in and out having to put the
1:10:07furniture back and have the camera one
1:10:09really huge cameras of the time yeah
1:10:12related on the scenery that just the
1:10:14Cyclorama behind it it's not a painting
1:10:17you know you've got lights coming on in
1:10:19buildings and still only other families
1:10:21and our got spun glass clouds that are
1:10:24moving through the whole thing and
1:10:27apparently he reshot the second half of
1:10:28the movie because he wasn't satisfied
1:10:30with the sunset
1:10:31yeah it's staging but the camera is
1:10:33always moving around and going to angles
1:10:36with the set
1:10:37you clearly could stage it so everybody
1:10:40just playing straight out and you should
1:10:41like i love lucy and
1:10:43right yeah but it i think you get a full
1:10:46view I think you get like three and 60°
1:10:48at some point where you see just about
1:10:50every angle of the room which you don't
1:10:53usually get the movie too
1:10:54well then you up the difficulty factor
1:10:56by insisting on doing eight-minute takes
1:10:58forever yeah something goes wrong in
1:11:00minutes 6 it's like oh well get another
1:11:02real in there let's get going again if
1:11:04I'm TV trivia is to be believed you know
1:11:07you have like cat camera people being
1:11:09having their feet run over by cameras
1:11:11and and like he dragged off to screen
1:11:14your way from the back so like a civil
1:11:17war Hospital in there there's so much
1:11:19you don't consider until you start
1:11:20thinking about that because I was also
1:11:22really probably the same articles you
1:11:23were I think I didn't think about that
1:11:25because these are huge cameras and
1:11:27they're huge like transatlantic pipeline
1:11:29cables connecting everything up and so
1:11:31all these actors have to like being
1:11:33stolen from the waist up while they're
1:11:34like hopscotching over these moving
1:11:36cables 31st the seam I feel like the the
1:11:40opening sequence we're looking through
1:11:42the curtains is probably a nod to the
1:11:44fact that this is basically a stage play
1:11:46being yes the current era it doesn't
1:11:49actually open but we get the impression
1:11:50i think maybe my favorite visual gag in
1:11:54the whole movie is you know when they
1:11:57open with the side curtains and there's
1:11:59that neon sign that is literally right
1:12:01on top of there ready to rain yeah and
1:12:03and it's just there and and so it's kind
1:12:06of this joke of you know here is this
1:12:07neon blinking the whole time right this
1:12:10neon in the middle now we know why he's
1:12:12insane
1:12:13well and but then at the end you know
1:12:15now it's discovered they found the body
1:12:17and and injury Stewart is fired off his
1:12:20gun and your people calling the police
1:12:21and they all just kind of settle down
1:12:23and now because of the darkness and the
1:12:25shifting of light it winds up becoming
1:12:28police lights right yeah right so for
1:12:30chance there's a foreshadow there
1:12:32yeah and it's just so nice my perception
1:12:34was that the Leon lights were in blue
1:12:36until we get to Jimmy Stewart comes back
1:12:39to find a cigarette case and that's when
1:12:42the lights are now read
1:12:43yeah well they're green to red flashing
1:12:45yeah they always say I didn't know
1:12:47something ready-to-wear that might just
1:12:48be my brain see my favorite visual
1:12:50flourishes in that movie are the
1:12:52different things they do with the road
1:12:54there's the scene there yeah well
1:12:55disposed in another part of the rope in
1:12:58the kitchen while the kitchen door is
1:12:59flat agenda enclose yeah he makes a big
1:13:02production of dropping in the drawer and
1:13:05then there's a scene where it's a
1:13:07close-up of the rope because he's tied
1:13:09the books that he's going to give
1:13:10David's father with it which is really
1:13:12sick when you think about it and then uh
1:13:15when Jimmy Stewart returns he the the
1:13:18camera zooms in on his pocket as he
1:13:20pulls the rope slowly out of it 2-2 to
1:13:23reveal that he what a sick mofo really
1:13:28the Rope should have gotten top building
1:13:30in the second let's get the name of the
1:13:32movie with the actual character starring
1:13:36some rope as soon as himself introducing
1:13:39and I one credit you know the one loose
1:13:41end I feel like they really didn't have
1:13:43that friend sorry that no I was gonna
1:13:46say the that was a funny joke not I'm
1:13:49afraid I disagree
1:13:51don't be naughty that's what you're
1:13:53hoping for Phil this is what you bought
1:13:55a promised David hat is is left in the
1:13:58closet which is kind of an amateur yeah
1:14:00it's a perfect Drive shut up and i don't
1:14:05have room for you Leopold and Loeb we
1:14:07thought they did the perfect crime and
1:14:08one of them left his glasses they're all
1:14:13criminals not-so-bright premieres every
1:14:16phase of this crime is so asinine that
1:14:18how anybody even at sociopath could
1:14:20think it was a perfect crime defy his
1:14:22logic eat it I think that's part of its
1:14:25its its elegance in some ways is that it
1:14:28is totally it's it's / the moment right
1:14:31in like it you know even if they
1:14:32premeditate with certain extent it's so
1:14:34ridiculous the idea of like it's so
1:14:35ridiculous it just might work
1:14:37so the thinking is that everybody would
1:14:39think now that's far too stupid for
1:14:40those two intelligent boys to have try
1:14:43well I think it's just no one would ever
1:14:44think that they would do right like it
1:14:46it's so ridiculous so over-the-top how
1:14:48well rather they not even Jimmy Stewart
1:14:50believes that they would do a former
1:14:52classmate of mine who is now in
1:14:55the US Justice Department once said to
1:14:57me thank God criminals are so stupid she
1:15:00is about the about the staging of it i
1:15:03wanted to say that i love that it feels
1:15:07it's got its got the dynamic feeling of
1:15:10the of a stage play with one difference
1:15:12being where the camera goes and that is
1:15:14the that is the power that the director
1:15:16has over you to point you where you
1:15:18should be looking at all times which in
1:15:21my mind actually magnifies the effect of
1:15:23this I I thought that made it a
1:15:26supremely effective because it its it's
1:15:28going to a stage play and always looking
1:15:30exactly where you need to look and I
1:15:33yeah I I i really enjoyed this i thought
1:15:36this was actually spectacularly good
1:15:39I i like the whole thing quite a lot so
1:15:43i get i give it give it a big thumbs up
1:15:45I thought it was just incredibly
1:15:47effective and intense and I like the
1:15:49fact that we were moving around in this
1:15:51in this space it was 88 you know it had
1:15:55a cinematic element with the with the
1:15:57way the cameras moving around but it
1:15:58also felt like it was just riveting
1:15:59theater and it's not an experience I've
1:16:02had in many films so I really appreciate
1:16:05it
1:16:06I just can't get over how it sits it
1:16:08really is like X Games downhill
1:16:11snowboarding where it's just see him I'm
1:16:13yes yes I could just jump this but why
1:16:15not what I just do a backflip while
1:16:17you're doing this like i'm gonna i'm
1:16:19gonna show you how to our depth i am and
1:16:22how absolutely fearless I am that
1:16:25anybody else would absolutely snap their
1:16:28neck and four places if they try to do
1:16:30some of the things that I'm trying to
1:16:32get away with here and yet when he does
1:16:34it you just viewed you don't even notice
1:16:36that the first time particularly and
1:16:38then your nose to the second time and
1:16:40you think oh I just noticed that
1:16:42Oh wasn't that interesting and what
1:16:46flare
1:16:47yeah I'm right with you here Jason I I
1:16:48loved everything about some thought the
1:16:50acting was superb
1:16:52I i loved this sort of gallows humor
1:16:54that popped up
1:16:55oh yeah ik frequently there's a line
1:16:59where Janet says I hope you knock them
1:17:00dead two fellow yeah exactly
1:17:02there's another one where she says I
1:17:04could really strangle you Brandon
1:17:06and you when you're quite a good chicken
1:17:09strangling over the chicken is a chicken
1:17:11strangling his subjects
1:17:13I'm not a chicken strangler and their
1:17:14struggle the chicken that's that's the
1:17:17equivalent of ripping the newspaper
1:17:19right like giving away a little too much
1:17:21here we know what is safety word is I
1:17:23also like the with the introduction of
1:17:25Jimmy Stewart to Nancy when she says did
1:17:28he do me justice his responses do you
1:17:30deserve justice
1:17:31i actually laughed out loud that it was
1:17:34hilarious
1:17:35there's a lot of really nice details in
1:17:36here I like the fact that at the end he
1:17:39leaves two bullets in the gun there's
1:17:41there's 130 yeah Lenny fires three out
1:17:44the window and I thought that was why he
1:17:46keeps to in the chamber in case he needs
1:17:48one for each of the boys I haven't seen
1:17:50this before and that absolutely popped
1:17:51up yeah I ran that back to actually
1:17:53count on with more shots at fired nice
1:17:55everybody left to he's gonna kill both
1:17:57yeah if a truck if they give him trouble
1:18:00that's what he's gonna do and I really
1:18:02like the way that the tables turn when
1:18:04Rupert returns because he's so cocksure
1:18:07throughout the first the party segment
1:18:09and when he comes back and it's he's
1:18:11pretty clear on the fact that the guys
1:18:13got the gun he now just seems all too
1:18:15fallible and he suddenly seems genuinely
1:18:17nervous about what he's gotten himself
1:18:18into and I think that is just that's
1:18:20fantastic
1:18:21the desperation with which he's he goes
1:18:24to he goes to Jimmy Stewart and tries to
1:18:26I've I believe that I can talk him into
1:18:28being an accomplice to because oh my god
1:18:31we are cut from the same cloth we r we r
1:18:33skindred spirits and he will be more
1:18:35than happy to help me cover up this
1:18:37murder invent a pic department actually
1:18:40thought almost up until the very end
1:18:41that he might just turn that was the
1:18:43question right and didn't think I didn't
1:18:45think so but I ok I'd I didn't have the
1:18:49same experiences i think in a modern
1:18:50film i would have thought that it was
1:18:52possible in this with Jimmy Stewart
1:18:54being the character is giving Stewart
1:18:57he's not a killer clown in this one so
1:18:59if there's a turn that I was sort of
1:19:01half wondering what's gonna happen is if
1:19:04if they if they are kind of the same
1:19:06people he would definitely come back not
1:19:08necessarily to bring them to justice but
1:19:10i know that i could inflict a lot of
1:19:12suffering if I just let them quietly try
1:19:16to figure out if I know or find just
1:19:18simply the
1:19:19website just really for my cigarette
1:19:20case and oh and the up until the time
1:19:23when he just opens the window and sticks
1:19:26his hand out there with a gun and fired
1:19:28shots into the air which is not the even
1:19:31if I thought that ok maybe he's going to
1:19:32call people and I would never have
1:19:34figured out that he's gonna do the most
1:19:36painful way possible yeah which is going
1:19:39to be no we're just going to sit out
1:19:40here while I've got the gun into bullets
1:19:42and you're gonna listen to the commotion
1:19:43and are going to listen to police siren
1:19:45start to come and they're just gonna be
1:19:47so we're gonna try to guess where that
1:19:49shot came from
1:19:50yeah it's gonna take at least its mark
1:19:52too because it because if he tries to
1:19:54make for the door there's a chance he
1:19:55could still be overpowered by those two
1:19:57I mean he's got a bum leg
1:19:59there's two of them were younger he's
1:20:00ruined the perfection of their crime at
1:20:02this point because you know you're not
1:20:03you're not getting a truck with a body
1:20:04out yet the department under these
1:20:06circumstances I so I steve and i have
1:20:08professed our approval of this one the
1:20:11the rest of you guys wanna want to jump
1:20:13in here before we wrap it up I kind of
1:20:15find it gimmicky like I spend a lot of
1:20:19the time watching the camera thinking oh
1:20:22they just had to swap that table in when
1:20:25the camera move over there oh here comes
1:20:27the hidden cut like camera work is very
1:20:30fancy i think it may be too fancy and
1:20:34maybe fancy for its own sake for me you
1:20:37know i actually got most of the way
1:20:38through the movie before I remembered
1:20:40that I had read somewhere that it was
1:20:41all done in one continuous shot and so
1:20:43that didn't distract me I could
1:20:45definitely see it doing so and i
1:20:46remember that in advance but it wasn't
1:20:49so gimmicky to me that it was always
1:20:51poking out at me and tell the jacket
1:20:53zoom seen and that was kind of reading i
1:20:55agree with with Monty that it's it's
1:20:57gimmicky but i don't think that attracts
1:20:59necessarily from it like if it's the
1:21:01kind of thing where I feel like you know
1:21:03again like I think and he was saying
1:21:05earlier in other hands it would probably
1:21:07come off a lot worse but since there's
1:21:10chops to sort of back it up here and
1:21:12because the action is so electrifying
1:21:14and that the actor to do such a great
1:21:16job of capturing your attention
1:21:18I don't find it as distracting as it
1:21:20otherwise would have been I mean I've
1:21:22seen rope a number of times now and it
1:21:24still manages that scene you know that
1:21:26Jason was talking about with the
1:21:27housekeeper walking down the hall and
1:21:30then all the way back like never
1:21:31fails to like put a catching my breath
1:21:33just it's so well-executed even having
1:21:36seen this movie several times in knowing
1:21:38exactly what was gonna happen afterwards
1:21:40you still have that moment of like oh
1:21:42dear god she's gonna open it in front of
1:21:43all these people that would be terrible
1:21:45you know and so I think that it's it's
1:21:48agree with Phil's you know casting this
1:21:51as an underrated movie since I know it
1:21:52didn't didn't do very well at the time
1:21:54but it is technically I think there's a
1:21:56lot of stuff going on here and it just
1:21:58shows the breath and range of
1:22:00Hitchcock's talent that he can do a
1:22:02movie like this as well as a movie like
1:22:04you know rear window you could argue is
1:22:06gimmicky I think it's his best movie
1:22:08that's my favorite of his but you know
1:22:09you could certainly argue make an
1:22:10argument for the gimmickry of it but he
1:22:13key in some ways does really well when
1:22:15he has those constraints to work with i
1:22:16think it really brings out some of his
1:22:18creativity
1:22:19yeah I philly you know the reading up on
1:22:23this film after I watched it to find out
1:22:25that it was it seems to have generally
1:22:27not gotten very good reviews and even
1:22:29revisited it you know decades later it
1:22:31didn't really get very good reviews also
1:22:33that Hitchcock said that he thought it
1:22:35was a failed experiment and that it was
1:22:36essentially unseen force York's a decade
1:22:40least favorite movie that he did with
1:22:42Hitchcock he'd done enjoy this movie and
1:22:44so I read all this after having watched
1:22:46it and I thought wow everybody's wrong
1:22:50yeah and maybe it's because it's 2015
1:22:54now and and it's not 1948 but it from
1:22:58the perspective of somebody watching it
1:22:59for the first time in 2015
1:23:01like I thought it was kinda terrific so
1:23:03I felt like it was fresh in a way that i
1:23:05have not experienced in awhile i've not
1:23:08seen a film like this it's I mean it's
1:23:10very the the language is very arch like
1:23:13at the Broadway writing at the time and
1:23:15I mean that's the only thing for me is
1:23:17that I can conserve see the the stilted
1:23:20language and that pulls me out of it a
1:23:21little bit but I don't mind because the
1:23:23tension is so good and and the yeah and
1:23:26again it's it's like a really good
1:23:28colombo like that I've seen it maybe
1:23:30eight or nine times the dialogue the
1:23:33dialogue is brackets can really take you
1:23:36out of the movie if you pay too much
1:23:38attention to it which is a weird thing
1:23:40to say and the camera work in the movie
1:23:42can really take you out of it
1:23:44if you're focused on the camera work but
1:23:46i really like the the tension of it i
1:23:50like that it is the very definition of
1:23:52suspense and I really think there's
1:23:55something to be said we have this vision
1:23:57of Jimmy Stewart as this clean-cut
1:24:00all-american guy and in this movie is a
1:24:02complete dick
1:24:03yeah and I i really like movies where
1:24:08Jimmy Stewart plays a dick anatomy after
1:24:11the Thin Man anatomy of a murder at the
1:24:13naked spur at these these are really
1:24:15enjoyable movies which I i would
1:24:18recommend even though he solves the
1:24:19crime I mean what he's really saying is
1:24:21hey I may I may have written about how
1:24:24you should go ahead and kill people
1:24:25without feeling bad but I didn't mean
1:24:27for you to do it i mean it's not it is a
1:24:30new host reaction he has because he's a
1:24:33jerk
1:24:34once and it's that he's realized that
1:24:35this was all a huge mistake if you know
1:24:38this this cause everything in his life
1:24:40into question it is the dark version of
1:24:42the Marshall McLuhan cameo and Annie
1:24:44haha no might work this 1i i thought was
1:24:48aces I really you know I think you hit
1:24:50it out of the park with with these Phil
1:24:52good i might be the best thing that I've
1:24:54seen on old movie club
1:24:56well yeah I i agree i don't have to
1:24:59correct that I think I enjoyed rope more
1:25:01than I've enjoyed any of the selections
1:25:03an old movie club so far like when we
1:25:05were done I turned to my turn to Lauren
1:25:07I was like that was terrific and I don't
1:25:09know usually it's like well that's
1:25:11another rule moving the books
1:25:12well Addison has kiss me deadly but
1:25:15people didn't bring this time I like the
1:25:18fact that it's compact they get it all
1:25:20done in an hour and 20 and we've seen
1:25:22some films that are a little stretched
1:25:23out just what you guys are saying you
1:25:26like row better than singing in the rain
1:25:28or duck soup
1:25:30well that's crazy talk about duck soup i
1:25:32cant yeah I know jack duck soup i just
1:25:34watched all the time and you know I I
1:25:36wouldn't say that is already said that
1:25:38he doesn't like singing I don't like
1:25:40singing because we're watching their
1:25:42excrement our soul should yeah i think i
1:25:46would probably it's that's that's a
1:25:48tough call money I've got to say both
1:25:50all three of those are I think quite
1:25:52great movies I like singing in the rain
1:25:54a lot i think i probably would we watch
1:25:56this
1:25:57first before I rewatching the others
1:25:58sick so I so I've said that a shadow of
1:26:02a doubt is my favorite and and more and
1:26:03said that I think rear window is his
1:26:06favorite Hitchcock movie did
1:26:07does anyone else have a favorite
1:26:09Hitchcock they want to throw out there
1:26:10but I actually like the 39 steps a whole
1:26:14lot of the 39 steps I i really enjoy the
1:26:16movie
1:26:17I we we could discuss that now but i
1:26:19think this podcast with last five hours
1:26:21indeed he started to throw out super fun
1:26:24like North by Northwest but more action
1:26:27yeah and harder to understand yeah I i
1:26:31love North by Northwest just because but
1:26:36I love fun what you love
1:26:38find anything crazy well I've seen all
1:26:40of for Hitchcock movies including these
1:26:42two and i gotta say i'm a psycho guy but
1:26:46that's you know that's just a second
1:26:48house it's charts
1:26:49secondly I think it i think the the
1:26:51great thing about psycho is there or the
1:26:53things i like about it is the is so much
1:26:55of the stuff that doesn't have to do
1:26:56with the everybody boils down to the
1:26:58shower scene or you know the Norman
1:27:00Bates reveal sort of at the end and
1:27:02there is so much more going on in that
1:27:04yes it's a fascinating movie I i just
1:27:07cannot have seen a number of times for
1:27:09film classes and things like that it's
1:27:10just everytime i watch it a secret
1:27:12there's so much stuff going on here that
1:27:13you don't even pay attention to its all
1:27:15these different movies and one and I
1:27:17think some of the best stuff happens
1:27:18with so great even turns up
1:27:20well as I mean if it is essentially a
1:27:22psychotic movie is a movie that has a
1:27:24psychotic break because it starts in one
1:27:25place and go someplace cold never ended
1:27:28well that's not really my father going
1:27:30to see psycho in the theater was one of
1:27:32his like I mean to this day one of his
1:27:34favorite film going experiences because
1:27:36nobody said anything nobody knew what it
1:27:39was about nobody boiled it
1:27:41yeah you get 20 minutes into the movie
1:27:43and suddenly wait a minute you just
1:27:45killed the main character
1:27:47what the hell's going on huh you could
1:27:49argue that's gimmicky to but it like
1:27:50again and different in different hands
1:27:52that might not that might have been a
1:27:54terrible movie but Hitchcock can pull it
1:27:56off
1:27:56I'm gonna go with the understand by the
1:27:59way and say that I think we're window is
1:28:00my favorite peanuts
1:28:02it's not a classy answer but I actually
1:28:05really like Alfred Hitchcock Presents
1:28:06there are not a lot of
1:28:08respected directors that have a theme
1:28:10song that come from their comics /
1:28:13mccobb anthology television show
1:28:17I respect that about him and there are a
1:28:18lot of good episodes that Samsung people
1:28:20still remember to yeah my favorite
1:28:24probably has to be dial M for murder
1:28:26oh because you're my love as I like
1:28:29psycho but the problem with it is that
1:28:31for me I see it once and then I see it
1:28:34twice and there's really I have to I
1:28:36have to be enjoying only like the craft
1:28:38of it there really nothing else I can
1:28:40really save her
1:28:41what I love about dial M for murder is
1:28:43Ray Milland the greatest to me the
1:28:45greatest Hitchcock murderer ever because
1:28:48he is so clever and he's showing so much
1:28:51agility he has what is legitimately a
1:28:53really really good well-thought-out plan
1:28:56and then something throws a monkey
1:28:58wrench in it and instead of like oh my
1:29:00god I got cover this up its wait a
1:29:01minute this could be even better and
1:29:04this really is the classic case of I
1:29:05kind of hope he gets away with it
1:29:08yeah because he's he deserves the win in
1:29:11that sense and the other great thing is
1:29:12that the inspector who is this little
1:29:14running around expect our it's back to
1:29:17talk to them for yall already like
1:29:19Rockets did you stab silly bunny sudden
1:29:22that you already had one key sound but
1:29:25really watching rainbow laughter watch
1:29:27ray milland do that to do that the movie
1:29:30once every month for the rest of my life
1:29:32and never get bored with it i also have
1:29:35thought was lucky enough to see a 3d
1:29:37screening of this game you're speaking
1:29:39of gimmicky yeah okay but what about of
1:29:41you don't have to see it in 3di I was on
1:29:443d like maybe the tenth time I saw an
1:29:47obvious the shots that they set up for
1:29:493d USA for the 3d you want all three
1:29:52dimensions happen but it's made maybe
1:29:55that's also the benefit of having had
1:29:56the opportunity to see it does i didn't
1:29:58think was terribly gimmicky whenever
1:30:00when I started like in flat land but
1:30:03when i saw it in the UU basic you have
1:30:05two of two projections in the in the in
1:30:07the lighthouse you're wearing like not
1:30:09red green glasses your we can see things
1:30:11in true color and you have this moment
1:30:13where you know that there's something
1:30:16between you and the thing you want to
1:30:18see at the entire audience leans to the
1:30:20left
1:30:21see around that lamp so i can see the
1:30:23person who just entered that's like okay
1:30:25this guy knew how to deal with 3d yeah
1:30:28so to counteract this positivity 44
1:30:31listeners out there who wanna like dive
1:30:34into the Hitchcock cool let me steer you
1:30:36away from three movies I don't watch the
1:30:40wrong man don't watch the trouble with
1:30:43harry and for God's sake don't watch the
1:30:45birds who I like the birds with special
1:30:49effects do not hold up better it's got
1:30:51some great scenes that all the birds on
1:30:53the jungle fever still just a great as
1:30:55they doing there anyways there want a
1:30:57steak sink it
1:30:58watch two minutes of the bird it's not
1:31:00that way family plot
1:31:03not so much now to cap I don't like to
1:31:06catch a thief i know a lot of people dad
1:31:08if I something black and something
1:31:10lacking in it for me that it should be
1:31:12better than it is it has my favorite
1:31:14Hitchcock cameo but aside from that
1:31:17though I do watch notorious yeah which
1:31:21is fantastic
1:31:22no I completely forgot about Rebecca a
1:31:24new answers that you guys alright
1:31:25because I like second floor we are seven
1:31:28areas very good yes foreign
1:31:30correspondents very good i just watched
1:31:31that recently I like I want and if you
1:31:33like if you want Farley Granger and rope
1:31:36you love them and strength strangers on
1:31:38a train
1:31:39great movie this is another stupid plan
1:31:41by the way
1:31:42yeah that crisscross thank god they're
1:31:46so stupid has my friend once it's got
1:31:48nothing on putting soda in your in your
1:31:50coffee with the also to poison trick
1:31:54alright well i think has been a
1:31:55successful edition of the old movie club
1:31:58well we can't have that happen again no
1:31:59no pic heard terrible things but nobody
1:32:02should watch for a theme magic its host
1:32:04oh you've plotted the perfect cat
1:32:07interesting
1:32:08nobody look in the trunk did I mention
1:32:12that i've had something to drink I hope
1:32:14nobody looks at the trial already
1:32:16disposed of my recording so i had the
1:32:18table laid out and then they said you
1:32:20can't Sherman on the table and they made
1:32:22me all bring everything over the trunk
1:32:24for no reason reason he added that the
1:32:27podcast get Jackson you got it so that
1:32:30the crime was
1:32:31headed out something like sometimes you
1:32:37gotta kill the podcast you love your
1:32:40plan all along
1:32:42hmm ok I'd like to thank my guests for
1:32:44joining me on another edition of the old
1:32:46movie club money actually thanks for
1:32:48being here thank you I didn't kill
1:32:50anybody
1:32:51no not yet i did Laura thank you thank
1:32:54you and unlike rope I'm glad that this
1:32:57David was here for the whole thing and
1:32:59leave
1:33:00hey yes that's right go back in your
1:33:02trunk now sir
1:33:03yeah well kandi not go thank you very
1:33:06much
1:33:07I admit that I did it but the real
1:33:09criminal is the society that made me Dan
1:33:11Morgan thanks for being here i had
1:33:14equipped and then they went off the
1:33:15rails pleasure to be here now I hope
1:33:17there wasn't another train coming in the
1:33:19other direction when you're just gonna
1:33:21have you guys it was gonna be out the
1:33:22coffee you guys were all drinking I
1:33:24don't know
1:33:24and Steve let's thank you know you
1:33:27standing here I'm going to get myself a
1:33:29bottle of beer and for putting this all
1:33:33together Phil Michaels thank you with
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