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0:00:31februari 2015 welcome back everybody to

0:00:35be uncomfortable i am your host Jason

0:00:37Steele we're here I'm convening another

0:00:39meeting of the old movie club or Movie

0:00:42Club the big and mean it

0:00:45our topic today will be two films from

0:00:50alfred hitchcock this has been pitched

0:00:53to me as the underappreciated Hitchcock

0:00:56segment we're going to be talking about

0:00:571943 shadow of a doubt and 1940s rope

0:01:01and I i will introduce my panelists now

0:01:06David lower hello

0:01:07gucci me Monty ashley i only watch these

0:01:11movies to demonstrate that I could

0:01:13commit a perfect murder

0:01:15it didn't work now I find a lot of holes

0:01:19in all these laws will eventually since

0:01:21she just confessed in a podcast like

0:01:24tragic flaw indeed and Enoch oh hello hi

0:01:28there I i I'm gonna be a bit late coming

0:01:30in here because i'm selling a newspaper

0:01:32to a suspiciously portly gentleman whose

0:01:35back is turned to the camera open up

0:01:37he's already left i'm ok now you look

0:01:40familiar

0:01:41I don't I couldn't go to play these it

0:01:42was just through so quickly that I

0:01:44couldn't place it could really see his

0:01:45face and a moron hello

0:01:48no one will convict me for killing all

0:01:50of you that's probably accurate

0:01:53well Steve let's also out there who

0:01:55could forget Steve let's I can't imagine

0:01:57a person could forget Steve lot when

0:01:59you're using our theme song for the old

0:02:01movie club its reward movie clubs young

0:02:04not really a theme or a song not the

0:02:07theme song for the old movie it is

0:02:09anyway

0:02:10and the instigator of this whole thing

0:02:12is Philip Michaels can you explain your

0:02:15thinking in this that the concept that

0:02:18you you you chose for us with these two

0:02:20films i would be happy to jason i think

0:02:22when you mention alfred hitchcock of the

0:02:25movies that most rapidly spring to mind

0:02:28are your psychos and your North by

0:02:30Northwest and maybe your rear windows or

0:02:34if you're if you're really a film snoot

0:02:38of vertigo or or even the birds but for

0:02:43my money basically the movies at high

0:02:45anxiety

0:02:46yes what what well I'll of North by

0:02:49Northwest I think that's a really good

0:02:51movie i think some of Hitchcock's best

0:02:53work is some of his earlier stuff and I

0:02:56think it often gets overlooked for one

0:02:58reason or another and I I i wanted to 2a

0:03:01bring these movies one of which is my

0:03:04favorite Hitchcock movie and the other

0:03:06of which is I i think is really a neat

0:03:08neat bit of film film trickery that I i

0:03:13think we can talk about all right should

0:03:16we start with then with shadow of a

0:03:18doubt from 1943 and not a spoiler alert

0:03:21this is my favorite Hitchcock uh-oh

0:03:24you've ruined the rest of the podcast

0:03:25yeah books and if you--if interviews

0:03:29with alfred hitchcock ER to be believed

0:03:31this was his favorite movie of all truth

0:03:33singing that man is a liar

0:03:35yeah haha sell shadow of a doubt as he

0:03:38said it's a 1943 and it is filmed in a

0:03:43place very very near to where Jason

0:03:45Meyer podcasting tonight Santa Rosa

0:03:47California but i get i get ahead of

0:03:49myself the movie opens up in what is

0:03:53some sort of urban hellscape I assume

0:03:55it's Philadelphia it enslaves numerous

0:03:57Heller hellscape is when I got it it has

0:04:00that whole eastcoast life is

0:04:03deteriorating vibe and it looks rather

0:04:06newcastle s Caswell oh yeah exactly

0:04:09uh-huh i had a direct a kazoo parade to

0:04:12walk through in the Alliance a shout out

0:04:15to earlier and yes that's right that's

0:04:17some old movie club continuity their

0:04:19catalog the right people get it

0:04:21up and they want to appreciate it but

0:04:23they'll get it I don't appreciate a nice

0:04:26set it good

0:04:27Joseph copy this line of a bad then ma

0:04:31indeed all right

0:04:33as it turns out some some dudes are

0:04:36looking for him and and he looks to be a

0:04:39cat and a spot of trouble so he loots

0:04:42that the two guys that are looking for

0:04:43him and sends a telegram to his family

0:04:45in santa rosa california that he's gonna

0:04:47come out for a visit

0:04:48meanwhile at that same time in santa

0:04:50rosa california uh the family who is a

0:04:54represented by Teresa Wright who plays

0:04:58also a young lady named Charlie I should

0:05:01mention the joseph cotten is uncle

0:05:03Charlie so they have that connection you

0:05:05see and also they may be the only two

0:05:07intelligent people in their entire fam

0:05:09well we'll get to that I think later in

0:05:11the whole town of Santa Rosa yes it's

0:05:13it's not a very bright family haha so

0:05:17Teresa Wright is a bit down in the dumps

0:05:20she's feeling that there in Iraq and

0:05:22then she gets on the idea to invite

0:05:24uncle Charlie out for a visit

0:05:25Oh uncle Charlie sent a telegram that

0:05:27he's coming yeah they have a connection

0:05:30you see and uncle Charlie arrives and

0:05:34almost immediately the time I stop you

0:05:37for a moment as I enjoy the line i enjoy

0:05:39the exchange between the lady at the

0:05:41telegraph company and any young Charlie

0:05:43where she says have you ever thought

0:05:45about telepathy and the old ladies like

0:05:47to look at these my business I don't

0:05:49believe it

0:05:49yeah yeah I wanted to what struck me was

0:05:52the fact we are your ass lady seemed

0:05:53genuinely worried about her business

0:05:55model for a second there like a white

0:05:57wait wait you can communicate with

0:05:58outliers was going to bubble was never

0:06:00gonna burst

0:06:02it's over but for telegrams anyhow so

0:06:04uncle Charlie arrives in town and almost

0:06:06immediately both the viewer and Teresa

0:06:09Wright can spot there's something not

0:06:11quite right but he's he's got some

0:06:14secrets he does some very weird things

0:06:17he's snatching newspapers out of peoples

0:06:19and dismissed

0:06:20he's giving out gifts with other

0:06:21people's names engraved on that and he

0:06:25talks about how elderly women should

0:06:27probably be choked just on principle

0:06:29well we're getting ahead for getting

0:06:31ahead of ourselves and a lot of fun at

0:06:32dinner parties

0:06:33yes

0:06:34so also I that moment of like hey it's

0:06:37joseph cotten I remember him from such

0:06:40movies as as the third man and citizen

0:06:43came and I now suspect him of everything

0:06:46right except in those movies like he's

0:06:50yes he's a nice guy and and here he

0:06:53shows up and he's East he immediately

0:06:55gives off a creepy vibe and and the

0:06:57first time I ever saw this movie instead

0:06:58of talking to be ok because Joseph

0:07:00gotten a nice guy

0:07:02no he's not thank you know he's very bad

0:07:05at being a nice guy in this that

0:07:06newspaper here and again

0:07:08yeah well trying to cover his tracks and

0:07:10all it doesn't make everybody in the

0:07:12house say hey look what uncle Charlie

0:07:14did to that newspaper you stole a page

0:07:16hey everybody he ripped up dad's

0:07:18newspaper dad's gonna be upset even

0:07:20before that like when he shows up at the

0:07:21station and he let everybody else carry

0:07:23his bags from even like the little kids

0:07:25are like carrying his bags like I'm just

0:07:26gonna stand back here i'm not you know

0:07:27if you pretend to be sick to first right

0:07:29ladies getting off the green he looks

0:07:31all feeble and then he's like spring

0:07:33along and sauntering and then he's like

0:07:35yes children carry my heavy bags for

0:07:37being the newspapers cost the equivalent

0:07:39of about six hundred dollars in 1940's

0:07:42that must be unbelievably anal about

0:07:44that newspaper the kids are terrified

0:07:46remember the back then if you missed out

0:07:48on that paper that's only gonna be

0:07:50another four hours wait until the next

0:07:5110 dare take the comics Clarence will

0:07:55fly into a murderous rage and see how I

0:07:59i assume that everyone's Oh uncle

0:08:01Charlie he's always playing tricks and

0:08:03stunts that's why why you have that so

0:08:05two gentlemen show up and they're

0:08:07they're pretending to do a survey of the

0:08:09fat American family

0:08:11it basically the FBI in those days has

0:08:14has no no skillet subterfuge and more

0:08:18recently with suppressed because it's

0:08:20quite clear that they are there solely

0:08:22to check up on Uncle Charlie they had as

0:08:24much skill as they needed

0:08:26yes good just for this is very much a

0:08:28hey your shoelace is untied kind of

0:08:30people you need to deal with their on

0:08:33behalf of money girion prince who's got

0:08:35a bank account for him where we're at

0:08:37the point where uh-uh FBI man a square

0:08:43jaw breaks the nineties

0:08:44just so that's fo marks i honestly

0:08:47thought for a moment he was a postmark

0:08:49he's just had that sort of wave the air

0:08:51yeah he knows a long torso breaks the

0:08:54news to Charlie that I thought he was at

0:08:56Martin after several good punches to the

0:08:58face that her uncle might actually be a

0:09:02murderer

0:09:04yes and not just any murder but a serial

0:09:08killer who goes around like women widows

0:09:11and taking their money and then leaving

0:09:13him for dead and it's either it's either

0:09:16him or another guy in the east coast so

0:09:18they're they're following him so that's

0:09:20like week 11 of American Idol we know

0:09:22it's gonna be one of these to stay tuned

0:09:24after the break to find out feel good

0:09:26about the crime-fighting of 1943 they're

0:09:28like we got it narrowed down to two guys

0:09:30who has been murdering everybody what is

0:09:33the evidence is there someone is like

0:09:34Schrodinger's cat evidence somewhere

0:09:36that it's like it's definitely one of

0:09:38these two guys the things that will one

0:09:39later on is that they have the same

0:09:41initials is the thing like when they

0:09:43when they talk later on about like the

0:09:44guy they captured his initials are also

0:09:46like co-owned so Mike apparently he left

0:09:48like a monogrammed handkerchief is

0:09:50significant rock and there's nothing I i

0:09:52believe this is what we call in the

0:09:53business MacGuffin just keep moving

0:09:56along but apparently the way it works is

0:09:58that as soon as one suspect is dead all

0:10:00of the others are exhausted yeah well my

0:10:02top yeah well I realized realized this

0:10:05was j edgar Hoover's FBI so first step

0:10:07eliminate all the Protestants really

0:10:10narrows the suspect pulled down if

0:10:12they're positive they know which one of

0:10:13these two guys I feel like they could

0:10:15have turned up their investigation a

0:10:17little more than without the older may

0:10:20long fake survey said that doesn't that

0:10:24does indicate their entire manpower on

0:10:26this case was four guys can split them

0:10:28into two guys that way two guys the

0:10:30other way

0:10:31probably not enlisting the help of an 18

0:10:33year old ladies you mean operative is it

0:10:37is also about law enforcement strategic

0:10:40resell em now young charlie is beginning

0:10:43to have her suspicions about Uncle

0:10:45Charlie who is getting creepier and

0:10:47creepier with every sea and it is not a

0:10:50lot for a room for him to go there is

0:10:52not good pretty creepy and also those

0:10:54two are flirting with each other yeah

0:10:56what you see is what the weird and

0:10:58uncomfortable sexual tension

0:11:00well I think that's quite intentional on

0:11:02num Hitchcock's part and speaking of

0:11:03movies that Teresa Wright would go on to

0:11:06make she later made a movie with joseph

0:11:08cotten which he could place my fabulous

0:11:11yeah um but yeah I know basically a

0:11:16uncle Charlie starts off at the ceiling

0:11:18of creepy and then like high recovery

0:11:20that burrow through the ceiling

0:11:22I don't have you would happen and

0:11:24because Andy mentioned already that the

0:11:28monologue that on the uncle Charlie

0:11:31gives about widows is is is it is quite

0:11:36delightful one of my favorite bits of

0:11:38dialogue in any Hitchcock movie uh

0:11:40because it and and what did the wives do

0:11:43these useless women you see them in the

0:11:45hotel's the best hotels every day by the

0:11:47thousands drinking their money eating

0:11:49their monthly notices money at the

0:11:51bridge they not did night smelling of

0:11:54money proud of their jewelry but if

0:11:55nothing else horrible faded fat greedy

0:11:58women are they are the human are they

0:12:01fat we had an amazing animals and what

0:12:04happens to animals when they get too fat

0:12:06too old and and and and the context of

0:12:09this is he supposed to give a speech to

0:12:11the local women's clothing and Trump his

0:12:14mother uncle Charlie sister sister but I

0:12:16hope you don't give that speech to the

0:12:18club was good yeah he's really great

0:12:21speechifying I'm workshopping a few open

0:12:23legs tonight for you used to see the

0:12:25roses greatest orators of all time by

0:12:28contrast my favorite dialogue in the

0:12:29movie is say I've never had a wristwatch

0:12:32the fellows at the bank will think I'm

0:12:34quite a sport it's evidenced by the fact

0:12:37that doesn't know how to put it on and

0:12:40try z fumbles with ya that anyhow uh

0:12:42everyone uh in santa rosa just embraces

0:12:46uncle Charlie to their beliefs because

0:12:47because he is the most wonderful thing

0:12:49which I i think is again and a very

0:12:51intentional thing that Hitchcock did

0:12:53because that the terror in this movie is

0:12:56what if you know something horrible

0:12:59about someone that you previously loved

0:13:03and admired and no one believes you

0:13:05everybody like yeah yeah because you

0:13:07never said anything to any

0:13:09buddy so at as we've mentioned there are

0:13:12two suspects and charlie is consumed

0:13:15uncle Charlie he needs to leave town and

0:13:18the and he's about to bolt and then all

0:13:20of a sudden word comes over the radio

0:13:21that suspect number two has a fled from

0:13:24the FBI and run into a propeller blade

0:13:26and was closing the case then offered

0:13:30his cock master of plot not to

0:13:32foreshadow but if you're if you're a

0:13:34serial murderer i suggest watching out

0:13:36for various forms of transportation that

0:13:38just like your undoing it yeah and if

0:13:40it's down to you and one other guy find

0:13:42any other guy take care of the other guy

0:13:44as we've mentioned Hume Cronyn is in

0:13:46this movie as the as the next door

0:13:48neighbor who has a fascination with true

0:13:50crime and murders and he literally says

0:13:54at that point when the news comes up

0:13:55over the radio

0:13:56well I guess that wraps up this case and

0:13:59it's not like the rick moranis of this

0:14:01i'm fascinated by the human Cronin's

0:14:03character and also his relationship with

0:14:05the dad where they have these

0:14:07conversations of how they will kill how

0:14:09I will kill you

0:14:11I get away with it this way it makes

0:14:12perfect sense though because he murders

0:14:14the dad who then goes on to become

0:14:15Clarence the angel so it all worked out

0:14:18with the nineteen-forties it was the

0:14:21love that could not speak its name

0:14:22they're great though I think they're my

0:14:23favorite part of the whole help although

0:14:24how freaky was it to see I actually had

0:14:27to like look up his age he was 32 years

0:14:29old my God he's like a young Hume Cronyn

0:14:32I didn't know they even made through

0:14:33that I had never seen a non raise any

0:14:35human Cronin i'm going to show you

0:14:37exactly what he has kind of a like a

0:14:39henry winkler meets val kilmer thing

0:14:41going to be like just just a dash of

0:14:44Crispin Glover throne energy i even more

0:14:46than a dashi may have a whole cup of

0:14:48Crispin Glover through it was a weird

0:14:50weird character that's that's a pretty

0:14:52strong just get Andy magnet right there

0:14:55um Cronin is the uncomfortable neighbor

0:14:58who really likes talking about killing

0:15:00PTF now it shows up it always shows up

0:15:03or like in the middle entertainer

0:15:04because he's a lonely man yeah he'll

0:15:08just walk into the house at dinnertime

0:15:09it's my god he does all he has his

0:15:11mother and his murders

0:15:13that's a key plot point yea cantonese is

0:15:16lowest le yeah the way i read that

0:15:18character to as I kept sort of expecting

0:15:20that he would be blamed for a for a

0:15:22murder

0:15:23down the down the line because you know

0:15:24we always talk about murders me super

0:15:26creepy and kind of a weirdo

0:15:28he had an outbreak has happened to swing

0:15:30by with a basket of poison mushrooms

0:15:31just to explain how easy it would be to

0:15:33slip these on the people's food also i

0:15:35love the part where he poisons coffee

0:15:36with soda that's yeah oh yeah that was

0:15:39that was some great bending I don't get

0:15:40the mushrooms are poison that he brings

0:15:41over i think he just brings them as an

0:15:43example of much yes you can discuss

0:15:45poisoned by agents see these mushrooms

0:15:48because if i had not brought the visual

0:15:50aid you would had no idea what I was

0:15:52talking about

0:15:53he's a prop comic uncle Charlie just

0:15:55bounds up the stairs joyful that he's

0:15:57off the hook up and then he turns around

0:16:00and looks at young Charlie and realize

0:16:02oh god she knows i have to totally kill

0:16:04her yeah and so the remainder of the

0:16:07movie which at this point we've got like

0:16:0820 minutes half an hour left is just

0:16:11basically him trying to kill his niece

0:16:13over and over again and being really bad

0:16:15at it a couple things one is i love the

0:16:17scene where he's on the stairs their

0:16:18first there are a lot of staircases in

0:16:20this BS this movie is is this in case in

0:16:22the house in the back staircase that

0:16:24same i think it's all yes I and then

0:16:26he's full staircase staircase staircase

0:16:30yes i love the scene where Joseph Cotten

0:16:32gets to the top of the stairs and he

0:16:33just stops and you're still looking at

0:16:34his back you know you and and and he's

0:16:37just standing there and that's that

0:16:38realization that she's down there in the

0:16:40doorway looking at him and that this is

0:16:42going to be a problem and that's just a

0:16:44fantastic fantastic seen the other thing

0:16:47i want to mention is that the you will

0:16:49talk about movies we often talk about

0:16:50pacing and I I don't want to say this in

0:16:53a negative way I what I would let me

0:16:56phrase it this way if there were a

0:16:57modern retelling of this film we would

0:17:01get to the he's going to try to kill her

0:17:02repeatedly like 10 minutes in and then

0:17:05it would go on for two hours and that's

0:17:07not what happens in this movie there's

0:17:08like an hour of setup before we even get

0:17:12close to realizing where this movie is

0:17:15going to end up whereas a modern movie

0:17:17with just the whole movie would just be

0:17:19like final destination except it's

0:17:22Charlie trying to kill Charlie Charlie

0:17:25versus Charlie ok

0:17:27that could be what we call anyway so I

0:17:28appreciated that it was sort of it

0:17:29escalates to this moment and then we get

0:17:31this sort of frenzied last half hour

0:17:33where

0:17:34there's the back-and-forth of him trying

0:17:36to kill her and I think in a way that's

0:17:39why this is Hitchcock's favorite movie

0:17:40because it it is it is the slow build to

0:17:43perfection

0:17:44where where it builds and builds and

0:17:47builds and the tension increases

0:17:49throughout the movie until until the

0:17:52last act which is basically yeah things

0:17:55are happening and so there you go

0:17:57I mean there's that whole wonderful

0:17:59conversation about basically what is an

0:18:01earworm that goes for about five minutes

0:18:03early on because she can't get the song

0:18:05out of your head and then I think songs

0:18:07like that transfer from head-to-head and

0:18:09if I hum it long enough you'll think

0:18:11what it is and then he has to distract

0:18:13them before anyone realizes it's the

0:18:14merry widow you so who's who started off

0:18:17humming The Merry Widow I i missed on

0:18:19who it was that initiate that young

0:18:21charter yeah because there was another

0:18:23day telepathy thing

0:18:24yeah even you think you're the clever

0:18:27little girl who knows something

0:18:29there's so much you don't know so much

0:18:31what do you know really you're just an

0:18:33ordinary girl limited an ordinary little

0:18:35town you wake up every morning if your

0:18:37life and you know perfectly well that

0:18:38there's nothing in the world to trouble

0:18:40you

0:18:40you go through your ordinary little date

0:18:42night you sleep you're troubled ordinary

0:18:44little sleep filled with peaceful stupid

0:18:46dreams and I brought you nightmares

0:18:49Uncle Chuck broke the movie meter with

0:18:51that dialogue he at me

0:18:54that's a culturally to his beloved nice

0:18:56moments was when he was seven and he

0:18:58started talking that way that it was

0:19:00really creepy he tries to knock her down

0:19:01the stairs he tries to as asphyxiate ER

0:19:04in a in a garage with the door slams

0:19:07shut and she's stuck in there without

0:19:08which almost works

0:19:10yeah look are you know about human krone

0:19:12and saves the day destination doesn't

0:19:14rescuer just goes and tells everyone

0:19:16else that this was there when she wasn't

0:19:19did that seem like a red herring anybody

0:19:21else I almost felt as though

0:19:23oh they're going to indicate that he's

0:19:25actually the detective because no he

0:19:26didn't just happen to be walking by he

0:19:28was actually casing and keeping an eye

0:19:30on things and I was pretty surprised to

0:19:32find that no he was just being human

0:19:34Cronin I think they did that because it

0:19:36creates the stagecraft where uncle

0:19:38Charlie can put the keys back in the car

0:19:40and and make it look like it wasn't a

0:19:42total setup

0:19:43yeah because otherwise you say well how

0:19:46did this happen

0:19:47well someone was trying to kill her

0:19:49obviously was here it looks just like an

0:19:51accident uncle Charlie is the first into

0:19:53the into the garage which she is in that

0:19:56scene although he's got to get back

0:19:58first before anybody else doesn't kick

0:20:00the thing out from under the door

0:20:01you know right to carry it off as kind

0:20:03of a problem with a plan and I i think

0:20:07the only I don't think was that specific

0:20:09i think it was just because everybody

0:20:11else is inside the house when you're

0:20:12writing the screenplay oh well how did

0:20:14they find me easy he's also turned

0:20:15cranked up the radio but coincidentally

0:20:18two seconds into and news from knows

0:20:21from from washington state as hard for

0:20:23the cliq hey let's listen to some really

0:20:25loud music now why is it a lot of

0:20:27Charlie okies you like a nice you don't

0:20:29get the base until you crank it out

0:20:30which is actual line i think that it was

0:20:32like okay who do we have that's not in

0:20:34the house right now as a screenwriter

0:20:35Unicron ok whatever mobile just say he

0:20:38happened to be passing by there may have

0:20:41been humans suggestion i noticed i'm not

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0:22:42the reason that Charlie why I mean I I

0:22:45take the point that everybody likes him

0:22:47he's giving a speech or he's about to go

0:22:49when he tries a killer he's get going to

0:22:51go give a speech that's going to go down

0:22:52as one of the finest speeches in santa

0:22:54rosa history a minister says so Jason

0:22:56yeah this now you guys are right near

0:22:59santa rosa houses that speech stack up i

0:23:02sent over history

0:23:04I'm gonna have to check i just i think

0:23:05there's a plaque somewhere about Grayson

0:23:08Rosa home of the legendary 1947 speech

0:23:11by to the Unitarian you know by uncle

0:23:12Charlie I think Charles Schulz gave a

0:23:14speech a few years later that went over

0:23:16well but other than that it was known to

0:23:18Charlie they said no no your talk of

0:23:21peanuts interesting mr. Schultz but

0:23:24unless you mentioned phat weezy very

0:23:27without yeah i took my point is that

0:23:29young charlie is the thing that he's got

0:23:32over her that prevents her from telling

0:23:34anybody this you know it's not until the

0:23:37very very end that he's even well-liked

0:23:39in the town it's that it would break her

0:23:42mother's heart which is why i wanted to

0:23:45mention this because her mother is an

0:23:47idiot you know what else might break

0:23:51mom's heart when daughter dies mascot

0:23:54char math breaks her heart into it to

0:23:58his credit he does this really my

0:23:59sinister speed say well you could talk

0:24:01but you know you're ill ruin your mother

0:24:03and hey what about your dad's job at the

0:24:05bank you'll probably get fired from that

0:24:06your whole family's gonna be ruined only

0:24:08going to do is just not say anything and

0:24:10your family will still be perfectly fine

0:24:11you know periodically i'll try to kill

0:24:13you but you

0:24:14no you can ignore that it was just in

0:24:17this motley crew of like mental

0:24:19negatives you have to like maintain this

0:24:21this girl is so into the one person the

0:24:23cast who has a good head on her

0:24:24shoulders

0:24:25you wouldn't want your father to lose

0:24:27that job just when everybody decided he

0:24:28was quite a sport

0:24:29yeah I start asking how how how can i

0:24:33was talking a small wheel like him go

0:24:34for the pocket wristwatch of all things

0:24:36anyway I I her mother drives me nuts

0:24:40because she is just it is not a really

0:24:43great performance it is not our or

0:24:45character it's a difficult character to

0:24:47watch she's flighty and silly and

0:24:51pointless and I mean it gets across the

0:24:55fact that she'll be completely destroyed

0:24:57because she loves her she loves her

0:24:59brother so much that but yeah it's um I

0:25:02don't like that character at all

0:25:04yeah we don't hear about how she drove

0:25:05into a streetcar three times and are you

0:25:07but I think the lightness is quite

0:25:10intentional so that so that it's driven

0:25:12home that young Charlie's between a rock

0:25:16and a hard place yes I just don't like I

0:25:17I get why that character exist in that

0:25:20way i just don't really like that I i

0:25:22found that are really incredibly great

0:25:24character

0:25:25it did have the effect of making me

0:25:26think the two charlies are like i said

0:25:28at the top of the show the smartest

0:25:31people the sharpest people in this

0:25:32family by far i can see why they feel

0:25:35they have a connection because you know

0:25:38they're not sporting a new watch at the

0:25:40bank or doing whatever the heck it is

0:25:42that the mom is doing which is and the

0:25:45mom has that one moment of clarity right

0:25:46after the attempted murder in the garage

0:25:49where she's trying to piece it together

0:25:52in your oh you're so closer to 0 we

0:25:56asked you to think you have to agree

0:25:58with you on how she's extremely

0:25:59irritating but I do know that the scene

0:26:01where uh where the detectives are still

0:26:05trying to pull off their whole service

0:26:06commentary was regretting it because

0:26:08there's a 45-minute discussion about the

0:26:11proper time to break eggs and cake yeah

0:26:14you don't want to miss it hilarious that

0:26:15isn't like I can't cream the butter

0:26:17after I've broken the hay know let's

0:26:19let's linger on this though it is like a

0:26:21Monty Python cielo daughter documentary

0:26:24weekend for a documentary today

0:26:27come on

0:26:27yeah I don't know you can't photograph

0:26:29that Chad so we got the new sub clip

0:26:31cover over it but you're welcome to go

0:26:33film me as I wick egg in the remake

0:26:36cherry jones would play that part doing

0:26:39anything right the x-jet so uncle

0:26:42Charlie goes to give a speech

0:26:43yeah greatest coach ever leaving young

0:26:46Charlie behind since she nearly

0:26:47asphyxiated so why not you can't go to

0:26:49south and she nicely manipulates the

0:26:52situation this is the moment where she

0:26:53gets the upper hand on him she makes it

0:26:55so he has to go give the speech and she

0:26:57because he tried to kill her gets to

0:26:59stay behind unguarded in the house and

0:27:01go through his things and try to find

0:27:03incriminating evidence it's a really

0:27:04really nice moment where she yeah she

0:27:07maneuvers him and he knows she's doing

0:27:09it and there's nothing he can do about

0:27:11it and the incriminating evidence as it

0:27:13turns out is this ring that he gave her

0:27:15earlier in the movie and that that he

0:27:18then

0:27:18well she gave it back to him because she

0:27:21was disgusted give it back or did she

0:27:22just leave it at the library and it went

0:27:24in the library lost and found I feel

0:27:26better okay left it at the bar your you

0:27:28know and uh the ring has the engravings

0:27:33of one of the different window victims

0:27:37I guess I i was thinking charlie you

0:27:39know Uncle Charlie's really great

0:27:40shopping on a budget because it turns

0:27:43out that you can you can give away

0:27:44almost anything after you murdered

0:27:45somebody

0:27:46uh-huh one and that the the ring thing

0:27:49one of the things i love about this i

0:27:51mean because i love the exposition news

0:27:52network on the radio the newspaper that

0:27:55she finds at the library is so

0:27:57beautifully written it's not at all like

0:28:00a newspaper not be written but it tells

0:28:02you everything you need to know

0:28:04including the only victim whose initials

0:28:08match the ring

0:28:09none of the other victims we never learn

0:28:11anything else about any of them and the

0:28:13movie lingers on it for so long because

0:28:15you're expected to read every order oreo

0:28:17do that that's why you have to subscribe

0:28:19to the plot advancement Tribune that's

0:28:22right because it moves things right

0:28:24along

0:28:24yes we learn for all of her intellect

0:28:26Nancy is apparently a very slow reader

0:28:29can we also keep some praise upon that

0:28:32wonderful actress who played the part of

0:28:34the waitress who that who was it was it

0:28:37was in her class in high school never

0:28:39left out

0:28:40oh I can that's a real die that's a real

0:28:43emerald gee I can always tell that's not

0:28:45looking at it I don't even have to put

0:28:47it aside and have to ask you if it's

0:28:49real she had dirt on someone at the

0:28:51studio

0:28:52yeah either that or you're was her

0:28:54acting coach don't mind me

0:28:58I enjoy whatever duh now she was that

0:29:00was again I think that's a beautiful

0:29:02small town touch ya somethin yes

0:29:04rear-ended broken-down she's a sort of

0:29:06character that Bruce Springsteen sings

0:29:08about in songs i like the librarians I

0:29:11can't let you in i got a ride ology only

0:29:13five minutes and then you get the sense

0:29:15that this is like one of the smartest

0:29:16kids in town and she's always the

0:29:18library is Michael okay Charlie for you

0:29:20but if I let you in all those other

0:29:22hordes of people trying to get into the

0:29:23library after hours will have to be let

0:29:25in

0:29:26no I like 1i let one of you in I'm gonna

0:29:28have to let our right fine you got five

0:29:30minutes to get him I'm just kidding

0:29:32nobody else comes to the ones nobody

0:29:33else ever been to this library also have

0:29:35to just Charlie I have a friend who's a

0:29:37librarian and he easiest the librarian

0:29:40is the secret hero of them

0:29:42it's the little kid that's always

0:29:44reading ivanhoe that's in the library

0:29:46all the time yeah we have been talking

0:29:47about and how she's the Greek chorus of

0:29:49this movie even getting really good shot

0:29:51struck what time the library closes what

0:29:53did you do should know how much as you

0:29:55should

0:29:56that that would be Chekhov's library

0:29:58hours if you mention the library hours

0:30:00it has to come back

0:30:01she's got the smart little sister who is

0:30:03always commenting on the action that is

0:30:05happening in the movie which is I'm

0:30:07Ellie cousin Oliver I like to think of a

0:30:09complete with less uncle Charlie

0:30:11finishes his speech speech ever greatest

0:30:14speech ever

0:30:15there's a party downstairs and that and

0:30:19we're all invited

0:30:20yeah we are all invited the Episcopalian

0:30:23his ministers there and is often nothing

0:30:25for me and my wife thanks I that's very

0:30:28forward of the minutes but the rest of

0:30:30you should get loaded

0:30:31yeah pretend like we're not here ok well

0:30:34we won't see um because the clergy don't

0:30:36drink

0:30:37apparently anyhow two hours it's at this

0:30:40point that young Charlie soccer is down

0:30:42to chill

0:30:42down the stairs prominently displaying

0:30:45the ring that she is yes which is when

0:30:48Uncle Charlie says well the house and I

0:30:52hate to break it did you break it to you

0:30:54like yeah just gotta pick up the town

0:30:55widow and i'll be out here huh you don't

0:30:59want to leave town without a window that

0:31:00so yeah like that's gonna drag it was

0:31:04careless like milano cookies you may as

0:31:06well eat consume all the ones in that

0:31:08little layer and they take it out get

0:31:10what you see more widows goodness grand

0:31:12I mean you can't just one exactly the

0:31:15next day Charlie uncle Charlie is

0:31:17boarding the train out of town stupidly

0:31:20now he invites the kids to come on the

0:31:22train to see them off stupidly Charlie

0:31:24gets on the train with them

0:31:26yeah that this is the one really dumb

0:31:29things that the Charlie does movie not

0:31:33well I i really think so this is the one

0:31:35thing where he can't come on Charlie

0:31:37you're you're in full possession of the

0:31:39facts and you get on the train with your

0:31:41your murderous uncle and so yeah but

0:31:43she's protecting the kids the kids

0:31:45yeah I guess so and he does the matador

0:31:47thing where you like let the kids run

0:31:49along and it's like stop and then i'm

0:31:51not sure why she protects the kids

0:31:53because they're both horrible and really

0:31:55hard with anyone missed them know how

0:31:58many dads gonna be more concerned with

0:32:00his newspaper i'm not sure that the dad

0:32:02and mom would even notice they were gone

0:32:03for a couple of months while the mother

0:32:05certainly would but there's some little

0:32:07ones around here is my newspapers so

0:32:10much straighter now that they're wait a

0:32:12minute the kids are missing my brother

0:32:13is gone we left again I cannot stand it

0:32:17why don't care it's like I don't do the

0:32:19hot children with my brother is gone but

0:32:23human Cronin is there ya go whoo crowd

0:32:27they're using you know if I i put some

0:32:29baking powder in that cake instead of

0:32:31soda will be like always it uncle

0:32:34Charlie makes it so that the train is

0:32:35pulling out and Charlie's still on the

0:32:37train because it becomes quite prepared

0:32:39he's gonna throw her off the during just

0:32:41as soon as it gets up to speed but

0:32:43there's a struggle on young Charlie

0:32:46manages to grab onto a solid handle and

0:32:50uncle Charlie staggers off in fosston

0:32:52front of it

0:32:53oncoming train badly timed oncoming

0:32:55train

0:32:56bad luck for uncle Charlie there and

0:32:58he's dead

0:33:00yep that the entire town turns out to

0:33:02mourn him I young Charlie stands outside

0:33:05with FBI agent dark square jaw and and

0:33:09she says basically yeah he was terrible

0:33:13and he's dead now and you're the only

0:33:15one who knows how terribly was and and

0:33:18that's the end of the no no and that and

0:33:20then I can't believe we didn't mention

0:33:23at one point before the attempt on her

0:33:25life to love directional square just

0:33:29announces that he's in love with her

0:33:31yeah and it's known her for roughly two

0:33:33I don't want to go back to Washington

0:33:35you'll see me back but i'm not going to

0:33:37be here on business being an FBI agent

0:33:39is boring

0:33:40I just assume that's par for the course

0:33:41because this is in 1943 movie where

0:33:44heaven forfend there's a weave is going

0:33:47to marry you know exactly just comes out

0:33:49of nowhere although i do like the fact

0:33:51that he professed his love for her and

0:33:52she and she's like well you know never

0:33:54nice but I don't know and then but but

0:33:58then this is what happens when she is

0:34:00there alone and can call the cops he's

0:34:04nowhere to be found

0:34:05because he's I don't know he's not in

0:34:07fresno at that hotel but he said he was

0:34:09going to be at he's got a girl in every

0:34:11town where he investigates murder yeah

0:34:13but it again it's creepy because she's

0:34:16theoretically and he again seems like

0:34:18he's in his mid to late thirties so well

0:34:20that's the standard it was before do it

0:34:22existed you know near death at that

0:34:25point from some reasonable that the

0:34:29black death I think I'm bad humors

0:34:32ticket oh we're touching on the thing

0:34:33that I that I love the most about this

0:34:35movie though as opposed to later

0:34:37Hitchcock is that Charlie Teresa Wright

0:34:40is really in charge of her own destiny

0:34:43and in charge of her own salvation

0:34:44whereas later Hitchcock movies that the

0:34:47treatment of women is kind of a tough

0:34:50ball because but your psychos in your

0:34:53birds are basically Grace Kelly didn't

0:34:55love me show you must suffer to be angry

0:34:58whereas in this one square jaw can't

0:35:02save her she has to save herself and she

0:35:04she is the agent of her own

0:35:07rescue she she she figures out how to

0:35:10trap uncle Charlie and and and i really

0:35:13like that I think it's unusual among

0:35:15Hitchcock pictures particularly among

0:35:17the better-known Hitchcock pictures it

0:35:20Hitchcock brunettes fare better than

0:35:21Hitchcock blondes well absolutely

0:35:24yeah we reach the end of the of the

0:35:26synopsis what am I i obviously

0:35:28interrupted feel about 90 times I to get

0:35:31their of so what I want to ask before we

0:35:35you know move on to our next movie we

0:35:36should talk what we think about this

0:35:39movie as a whole we can we can point out

0:35:40some of the amusing things about it but

0:35:42what did what did you all think of the

0:35:45movie all all told Steve what about you

0:35:48I'm kind of two minds about it I you

0:35:50know the direction was great i really

0:35:52like the use of shadow in a lot of

0:35:54places since this movie has shadow in

0:35:56the title you have shadows in the film

0:35:58naturally I thought it was nicely tense

0:36:01and you know it ratcheted up pretty much

0:36:05throughout which I enjoyed I felt like

0:36:07the plot though could have been a lot

0:36:08better and I'm i'm going to blame it on

0:36:10Thornton Wilder because it was forced to

0:36:12read our town twice and twice about it I

0:36:14i feel like the film would have been a

0:36:17lot more effective if there had been

0:36:19some question as to Uncle Charlie's

0:36:21guilt and we weren't intimately aware

0:36:23early on that he was you know a murder

0:36:26he could still be creepy but he doesn't

0:36:27necessarily have to be so obviously it

0:36:29would be guilty of crimes but not

0:36:31horrible murders and material and your

0:36:34you kind of hope that he is and then

0:36:35later on it would be interesting if

0:36:38there was some question as to whether he

0:36:39was really responsible for the accidents

0:36:41that keep me falling young Charlie but

0:36:43again it's made abundantly clear that

0:36:46he's the one who you know locks her into

0:36:48the garage so I felt like it that could

0:36:50have made things a lot more interesting

0:36:51i can end that is a byproduct of 1943

0:36:54probably probably it's probably just a

0:36:57they didn't want to make it to complex

0:36:59since you know the audiences were less

0:37:01jaded and it by other problem is is that

0:37:05it defies belief for me that anyone in

0:37:08town would not become suspicious of a

0:37:09guy who routinely launches into

0:37:11diatribes about horrible that feel

0:37:13greedy women and

0:37:14our table and almost you know starts

0:37:17starts accusing the father of

0:37:20embezzlement loudly at the bank

0:37:22yeah as though it's in a joking manner

0:37:24and does something similar to the bank

0:37:27president so I couldn't help but notice

0:37:29gosh she really enjoys miming strangling

0:37:32thing is that they were not wrong hands

0:37:36I think a lot of that is it is thrown in

0:37:40basically too well uncle Charlie he

0:37:43tells he has his jokes and and it's also

0:37:47told from the perspective of young

0:37:49Charlie where where she's seen these

0:37:51things through the eyes of a god he's

0:37:53really a box during these these are

0:37:55jokes these are terrible things

0:37:57why can't you people see i also find

0:38:00Charlie to be kind of a drip right

0:38:02nobody's no no no we're gonna find the

0:38:06only dripping this movie is FBI agent x

0:38:08squared and then she's a drip in the

0:38:10opening so gay which are I think young

0:38:12Charlie's first scene is so depressing

0:38:14haha

0:38:15there's nothing interesting in this town

0:38:17with all in a roxy is like you know

0:38:19granted stereo typical teenager

0:38:21uh-huh well but 18 come on 18 time to

0:38:24begin over that note nobody teenager or

0:38:28not who is remotely intelligent isn't

0:38:30going to rat out Charlie after the first

0:38:32or second time he's tried to kill her

0:38:34yes I just I find that hard to believe

0:38:36as well yeah but nobody would believe

0:38:38that's something right like oh yeah sure

0:38:39he cracked the state you know cut the

0:38:41stairs that why wouldn't a believer and

0:38:43why wouldn't she at least making a

0:38:44because everybody loves uncle Charlie

0:38:47I'm I don't think that's true though yet

0:38:49you gave the best speech ever in santa

0:38:50rosa concerned that's the whole thing I

0:38:52think defies belief me I enjoyed the

0:38:54movie let me just say that I i think

0:38:57overall it was the the direction and the

0:38:59tension were enough to carry it for me

0:39:01but you know i would like to see the

0:39:04plot be a little deeper and and less

0:39:07obviously false to my to my eyes anyway

0:39:11well I think we've learned that uncle

0:39:12Charlie is the only monster here and he

0:39:16wanted to go next

0:39:17I just right yeah I i agree with all

0:39:19that i think i like the movie I is I

0:39:22thought that was a classic example of a

0:39:25movie where

0:39:26you love all the pieces of this you just

0:39:29wish the pieces fit together a little

0:39:31bit more cleanly first edit in addition

0:39:34to the examples that are even cited when

0:39:37the you know

0:39:38assistant inspector Fred Mertz like

0:39:41takes Charlie sighs and now we're

0:39:43closing in on them so you know if he's

0:39:45gonna run away heels he's only gonna

0:39:47have a few hours to do that so I want to

0:39:49tell you about this because you know

0:39:51I've just been hit in the head with a

0:39:53coconut see and i forgot that I'm

0:39:55actually trying to capture him

0:39:56I'm about to I'm probably be hit by

0:39:58another coconut to remember that I'm

0:40:00supposed to be catching so you really

0:40:02should go and warn him right away I'm

0:40:03this is when I started thinking that oh

0:40:05so is this a double-cross is there are

0:40:08these not actual investigators there are

0:40:11actually the killers or associates of

0:40:13the killers and when you turns out that

0:40:15wasn't that was just know kind of a

0:40:18character doing dumb things that are

0:40:20contrary to their own purpose

0:40:21you're under oh ok i really wish that

0:40:23someone had circled that that page of

0:40:26the script and put a big red ? on it and

0:40:28handed it back to hitch

0:40:29all right Monty what do you think I

0:40:32thought it was a gorgeously shot movie

0:40:33like Steve said the shadows are great

0:40:36there's one scene on the top of the

0:40:39staircase where for no real reason

0:40:42they're just this amazing cabinet of dr.

0:40:45Caligari lighting going on the back wall

0:40:47and i also like to I think Charlie's on

0:40:50the phone and we're supposed to be given

0:40:53the impression that the phone calls have

0:40:55been going on for a while it's just fade

0:40:57to black

0:40:57they back up with Cameron farther back

0:40:59and in a completely random spot an angle

0:41:02and that happens a couple of time

0:41:03whether that was really effective

0:41:05I'm not sure whether this was a joke on

0:41:07purpose but remember that newspaper

0:41:10we're talking about when Charlie says

0:41:12going to fold a house heat air makes to

0:41:15tears in the paper starts to fold we cut

0:41:18away to the kid and then three seconds

0:41:21later there's this amazing paper mache

0:41:23and again he's good over there

0:41:28there are six papers delivered every

0:41:30single day they had they so much time so

0:41:32much of this material to figure out of

0:41:34clever things with he's got the strong

0:41:36strangling hands

0:41:37they're good at origami the newspaper

0:41:39industry was different than money

0:41:41I guess simplest most of the sales were

0:41:43for manufacturers of pirate hats paper

0:41:45houses boats i mostly like the movie i

0:41:48do have a lot of concerns about mostly

0:41:50just that newspaper scene because he's

0:41:54so bad at covering his tracks

0:41:57I'm not a baby uncle Charlie well that

0:41:59combined with his rants about how

0:42:01windows are bad and should die i think

0:42:03our to decide if you wanted to keep it

0:42:05on the down low but nobody noticed that

0:42:07with the newspaper even these idiots

0:42:09were like what are you doing hiding

0:42:11something

0:42:12hey there's a page missing you missing a

0:42:13page that newspaper

0:42:15hey everybody its gonna flip out early

0:42:17had this paper and there's a painting

0:42:19this thing folded nice and dad won't

0:42:21notice actually there's a really good

0:42:22chance that dad was only 26 pages in

0:42:24this newspaper

0:42:25it's a very small this week McNamara's

0:42:27missing well that's across is that that

0:42:30he is an uncontrollable maniac right i

0:42:32mean he can't he can't stop his urges

0:42:35he's going to kill the widows and tear

0:42:38newspapers that's what he's going to do

0:42:40and you know other widows yeah I liked

0:42:44it yeah yeah good David what about you

0:42:47I mean I've like this 14 years I I can

0:42:51you know i love look visually and love

0:42:55you know again the shadows the

0:42:57staircases i love the fact that usually

0:43:01Hitchcock lets you see characters think

0:43:03so you know you see just gotten thinking

0:43:06on the staircase for a minute you see

0:43:08the you know in the beginning when he

0:43:10just walks right past the the guys

0:43:12waiting on the street corner for him and

0:43:15and you see them think for a minute ago

0:43:17is that the guy we should follow let's

0:43:19follow and you know so heat so he lets

0:43:22you see the characters think for a

0:43:24minute

0:43:24they may not all be capable of thinking

0:43:26but still you know and one things that I

0:43:31i noticed this time through who the

0:43:35parallels between the Charlie's in the

0:43:37beginning the first time we see both of

0:43:39them they're lying in bed and they're

0:43:42just when someone else is talking to

0:43:43them and drawing things out of them and

0:43:46as the movie goes on you know you know

0:43:49she makes the point of

0:43:50oh I I was that's why I was named for

0:43:53right and we have something in common

0:43:55and I can sense things that you keep

0:43:57secret and I know things about you know

0:43:59we have this connection and and we know

0:44:02through the movie they diverge but in

0:44:05the beginning it's very clear that there

0:44:07they have this bond so that i think is

0:44:09also part of why she doesn't she takes

0:44:12so long to come to recesses and more and

0:44:15more about you

0:44:16i like it like a lot of these folks I i

0:44:19really enjoyed the execution of it it's

0:44:21a great-looking film I think Joseph

0:44:22Cotten entries right both to awesome in

0:44:25this movie that is fantastic for

0:44:26especially just got a new appears

0:44:28between the like charming debonair

0:44:31dashing fellow and really scarily

0:44:33psychotic guy because there's some good

0:44:36scenes you know especially like when she

0:44:38digs out the piece of newspaper from his

0:44:41jacket and we get the you know trademark

0:44:43Hitchcock POV seymour really you know

0:44:45where the camera and we're looking at

0:44:46him and you see this entire face sort of

0:44:47collapse and you get angry and starts

0:44:49yelling you know and ask the audience

0:44:51essentially at that point is where the

0:44:52stand-in he does such a good job of

0:44:54going back and forth just

0:44:55instantaneously between being terrifying

0:44:58and supercharged like maybe a little

0:45:00sleet charming but like you know

0:45:02friendly and jovial and so II and even

0:45:07the other characters i think if you even

0:45:08if they don't seem to quite fit and they

0:45:10are a little ridiculous at times I still

0:45:12enjoy most of them i really like a

0:45:15hundred traverse as the father just

0:45:18because he's got a very matter-of-fact

0:45:19way of talking about think I just enjoy

0:45:21i really enjoy his inhuman Cronin's

0:45:23discussions of the murder it's just

0:45:26they're just so delightfully charming

0:45:27because it is this whole idea of this is

0:45:29it's a boring little town nothing ever

0:45:32happens here you know and and all the

0:45:34people are nice and and picturesque in

0:45:36the the family surveys come around

0:45:38because they want the typical American

0:45:39family and yet always talking about

0:45:41murder and terrible things all the time

0:45:43and I think it's just you know it's a

0:45:45great commentary i love it

0:45:47all right fill up i guess i need to fill

0:45:49in the blanks here and say I liked it I

0:45:51liked some of the comments here I I sort

0:45:55of see this and think it could have been

0:45:57even better if and maybe you know it was

0:45:59just of the time and it was going to be

0:46:01what it was going to be but I I feel

0:46:03like your moments where it could have

0:46:04even better at doing the things that did

0:46:06well and yeah the mom really annoyed be

0:46:08and i found the FB hi to be amusingly

0:46:12incompetent especially when you throw in

0:46:14the declaration of love that happens

0:46:15later in the film i love you Charlie

0:46:16that was just a few terrible bizarre i

0:46:19was like falling in love with all of my

0:46:21cut

0:46:22but this is this film is about the leads

0:46:24and they're great

0:46:25so that's all I think Phil what you

0:46:26bring it home well as I said I I laid my

0:46:29cards on the table early i think this is

0:46:31Hitchcock's best movie i love the the

0:46:34small-town elements of it and as as I

0:46:37think even this film's harshest critics

0:46:39will point out i think Joseph Cotten and

0:46:41and uh Teresa Wright do a do a fantastic

0:46:45job playing off each other in it it

0:46:49really is a fantastic movie i think in

0:46:52many respects and I I i do love how the

0:46:54tension builds throughout I got a couple

0:46:57of favorite lines i gotta throw out

0:46:58there before we move on I like the line

0:47:00where and is hopping on the sidewalk and

0:47:02she says proudly to the detective I

0:47:04brought my mother's back three times in

0:47:06his response is not bad

0:47:08step on a crack break your mother's back

0:47:10yep i just really like it's just your

0:47:12father's way of relaxing for the

0:47:14discussion about murder

0:47:16yeah the other line i wanted to mention

0:47:18was at the end where they're discussing

0:47:20what transpired the detective and young

0:47:22Charlie and the did Dirk square job

0:47:25states that the world seems to go crazy

0:47:27every now and then like your uncle

0:47:29Charlie fact real tactful Graham realtek

0:47:33one line that entertained me not for the

0:47:36shallow reason you think was wine for

0:47:39dinner sounds so gay

0:47:41no it's not because of that just because

0:47:44what else are you drinking wine yeah

0:47:46that was that was that was that

0:47:48yes did not not just the the use of

0:47:50words then and now but for the idea of

0:47:53like normally we just eat cardboard and

0:47:56drink tap water we drink our wine

0:47:58starting at eleven o'clock in the

0:48:00morning i feel it's true for most of the

0:48:02members of this family

0:48:03I'm not talking about murder i'm talking

0:48:04about me killing her and her giving me

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0:49:52speaking a murder

0:49:53let's talk about road adapted by human

0:49:56crewman yeah there's your connection

0:49:58take the plan adapted for the screen for

0:50:02his good friend out there is a

0:50:03connection between these two

0:50:05yes interesting yes so people who were

0:50:07in it's a wonderful less automatic

0:50:08connection to him crown and who is pitch

0:50:12cocks music apparently there's not to be

0:50:16much plot recap here because there's no

0:50:18plot this is the this is a the bottle

0:50:21episode of Hitchcock movies yes

0:50:23you want to spend one of two one of two

0:50:25lifeboat being the iphone is the other

0:50:28one it's a Colombo that's exactly what i

0:50:30thought this is sunshine colombo yeah he

0:50:32even walks out and then comes back in

0:50:35yeah yeah yeah she's I hate to bother

0:50:38you but one watching one more thing I

0:50:41forgot to mention I was 11 my life that

0:50:45i forgot to mention that you've

0:50:46misinterpreted my lectures about the

0:50:48inhumanity of man and heavy right to

0:50:50kill admit I didn't really mean it like

0:50:52that i feel really bad i hate to but I

0:50:55need to check the trunk now I got used

0:50:56to have a chest just like this it could

0:50:59I look inside this chest because it

0:51:01would be shuttered members for me as a

0:51:03child I should play with this catch

0:51:06I know mrs. never comes to these kind of

0:51:09party i know i said everybody should be

0:51:10murdered but I didn't mean everybody

0:51:12should be murdered

0:51:13I don't feel like I have to recap it

0:51:16yeah we're done

0:51:17so it's a baby basically Brandon and

0:51:20Phillip are our two are are are a gay

0:51:24couple good friends good friends so they

0:51:27are an accessory little bit this is I

0:51:29love em it's never discussed but it's

0:51:31just they're having students some

0:51:32reading on this movie and it talks about

0:51:34well the homosexual subtext I scraped

0:51:36out some subjects

0:51:38oh no it is not i gotta be honest I did

0:51:42not I did not get that initially in fact

0:51:45the only reason the only because they're

0:51:46fresh out of college they could very

0:51:48easily be respect and just bury and is

0:51:51talking about how he previously dated

0:51:52Janet the oh oh yeah yeah so anyway

0:51:57they're they're very they're a couple

0:51:58and they have this apartment in there

0:52:00they've planned to some amazing apart

0:52:02and when we first see them they are

0:52:03strangling somebody to death

0:52:05this is the thing if you're complaining

0:52:07about shadow of a doubt is boy they

0:52:09really didn't leave much in the way of

0:52:10doubt as to what their uncle Charlie's

0:52:12but they don't have this will know this

0:52:15because this is colombo that's the whole

0:52:17point of this movie that opening shot

0:52:18right as soon as the soon as the credits

0:52:21and they are strengthening their 330

0:52:23incidentally david i-i love how idyllic

0:52:26the music is during the opening credits

0:52:28like the opening credits music yes it

0:52:30sounds like this is going to be a lovely

0:52:31piano Rob through mr. shadow of a doubt

0:52:35to but it's getting late

0:52:36he's here because that gigantic dramatic

0:52:39title card that says rope in the crazy

0:52:41fog comes up and then this string swell

0:52:43and it's sort of a lovely lilt no it

0:52:46doesn't go dark until we pan into you

0:52:48know the apartment essentially it's like

0:52:50although the curtains are drawn that's a

0:52:51little we all god somebody's being

0:52:53strangled right now has somehow

0:52:55streaming as he's being strangled which

0:52:57is a bit odd I thought yeah

0:52:59yes so so the the conceited this movie

0:53:02is that the entire film other than the

0:53:05opening shot where there's a there's a

0:53:06cut if robert zemeckis had been directed

0:53:09miss it would have gone through that

0:53:10window and through those curtains and

0:53:12all the way in but Hitchcock just cuts

0:53:14from me from the outside to the inside

0:53:16but we spend the entire time in this

0:53:19apartment the entire film is there it is

0:53:21the bottle episode but but not just the

0:53:24location but the fact that these are

0:53:26continuous takes each goes for about 10

0:53:28minutes and then we we linger for a

0:53:30moment to ponder the back of somebody's

0:53:32can assume into somebody's jacket yeah

0:53:34there are several cuts though which is

0:53:36we always strange me because I think

0:53:38they go unnoticed refuse because it you

0:53:40kind of went out but there are several

0:53:41just like jump cuts yet are slow

0:53:44charging but but purposeful in the

0:53:46replacement like i said i think those

0:53:48actually probably are better than the

0:53:49zoom into the jacket shot yeah I don't

0:53:51like a turd in a punch but the gimmick

0:53:53cuts are super distracting to me because

0:53:55I spent the whole movie watching for

0:53:57them the jump cuts are because they had

0:53:59to physically change the real story is

0:54:01in the projectors so he he said I don't

0:54:03need to cover those they have to change

0:54:05them anyway so Brandt Brandon Phillips I

0:54:08have committed what they what they hope

0:54:10is the perfect murder for certain values

0:54:13of murderers as as John doll who plays

0:54:15Brandon says over and over and we pause

0:54:19here and examine how this could possibly

0:54:21be the perfect murder when they have

0:54:23absolutely no plan other than kill the

0:54:25guy

0:54:26well you take advantage of the country

0:54:27and cook in Connecticut and then you

0:54:29just dump his body in the lake and never

0:54:31know I i think their arguments they have

0:54:33no motive that they have they have no

0:54:35motive also also they've got they've

0:54:37phoned from the done a fake phone call

0:54:39from the city to say that

0:54:41hi I'm David I'm definitely alive and

0:54:43i'll definitely see you three hours

0:54:45later went to disguise where they are i

0:54:47think there's a lot of this plot we

0:54:48haven't we

0:54:49get the sea but I think the best thing

0:54:51would be completely completely

0:54:52appropriate this guy's arrogance is just

0:54:54that it's perfect is that I've seen I've

0:54:56looked small angles and only Son my

0:54:58genius could ya that's what happened

0:55:00with Leopold and Loeb is there yeah they

0:55:02had the perfect murder and it fell apart

0:55:04immediately even for that if if even if

0:55:08it had the initial part had worked out

0:55:10it's so unbelievably poor of a plan

0:55:12there's no way they could possibly have

0:55:14gotten away with it it's absurd yeah

0:55:15they're basically Batman villains one of

0:55:17the closest friends GI who are we going

0:55:19to question they go out of their way to

0:55:21invite people to the scene of the crime

0:55:22people that are looking for the person

0:55:25who's dead

0:55:26that's for arrogance that's the showing

0:55:28off this is the crux of the movie that's

0:55:30not a mistake that is here here it was a

0:55:33mistake i said it was like being a

0:55:34Batman villain take a look at the kind

0:55:35of people were dealing with here that

0:55:37it's not enough that they would just

0:55:38simply kill somebody for stored they

0:55:40would also want to make sure that if

0:55:42that they know that

0:55:43oh my god we actually had the body out

0:55:45in the middle of the room and nobody

0:55:47knew it aren't we brilliant yes this

0:55:49this is an rands dead poets society

0:55:51let's put let's put candles on it let

0:55:54surface lid on it let's invite the

0:55:57parents to the party give the dad the

0:56:01murder weapon exactly arguing

0:56:03surprisingly loud voice about the murder

0:56:05in full view day uh they shove poor poor

0:56:10David's body into a trunk and then

0:56:12decide hey we're gonna have a dinner

0:56:14party let's serve dinner on the trunk

0:56:15and as jason says they put the

0:56:17candelabras up there and they've invited

0:56:20David's father and what turns out to be

0:56:23his Dowager aunt I guess they've invited

0:56:26David's girlfriend invited the former

0:56:29boyfriend of David's girlfriend and most

0:56:32importantly they've invited the beloved

0:56:34a headmaster from their prep school who

0:56:37is played by Jimmy Stewart to attend the

0:56:40party as well and Jimmy's that was their

0:56:44first mistake never bring Jimmy story

0:56:46ya ever bring Jimmy Stewart to any party

0:56:49well did you love David because you know

0:56:51I understand you have to kill him that

0:56:53haha call back to earlier that's his

0:56:57deep cut I spent much of the movie

0:56:58confusing John doll for

0:57:00young Jimmy Stewart I i think the it's

0:57:03interesting the day and they talk about

0:57:04him as a potential co-conspirator and

0:57:07then right at but uh but uh who's the I

0:57:11who's the idea man is that is that

0:57:13Brandon Brandon is bringing yeah

0:57:15Brandon's the idea man Brandon's like I

0:57:17he wouldn't have the guts to pull it off

0:57:19you know we he believes in it from an

0:57:22idea standpoint but not he couldn't

0:57:24actually do it but i like that they have

0:57:26this fantasy that that Jimmy Stewart is

0:57:29one of them or almost one of them and

0:57:32they invite him sort of glee of like oh

0:57:35he gets to be part of this thing the

0:57:37idea sort of germinated in long

0:57:38discussions they had with him and he was

0:57:40there housemaster right so now that

0:57:42they're his ideas that they're putting

0:57:44into practice here I did they get sad

0:57:46that poor Farley Granger is always

0:57:47getting talked into murdering people

0:57:48actually know you know once is an

0:57:52accident by strangers on the train yes

0:57:58that's but that's the other genius of

0:58:00love just how this is constructed where

0:58:01you feel as though it's not unjust

0:58:04enough for this guy to plot a murder

0:58:06committed murder just for fun and then

0:58:08again have the dinner party with the

0:58:10body of the open

0:58:11he also is getting this big rise out of

0:58:13i have basically talked and browbeat

0:58:15this person into being my accomplice in

0:58:17this murder even though he has apps he

0:58:19does not share my belief system that

0:58:21people should die for my amusement

0:58:23I mean there's there's a little bit of a

0:58:24corollary between him and uncle Charlie

0:58:27I think from shadow of a doubt like both

0:58:28of whom kind of seem to believe that

0:58:29they are above above morals no I don't

0:58:33know I i feel as though you're Charlie's

0:58:35just seriously bent whereas this person

0:58:38is just such as as a psychopathic

0:58:40behavior and so yeah he's really

0:58:41grounded

0:58:42well he's on his way he's younger me as

0:58:45if there's a there's a difference

0:58:46between like the deserts of seeing the

0:58:48entire world is pray

0:58:50meaning that i'm a killing stalking

0:58:52beast that kills furfrou but if if

0:58:54you've got something that costs eighty

0:58:56dollars and I need that a dar think

0:58:57you're dead because that's what's power

0:58:59value human life it's another thing to

0:59:01simply say im bored I think I'll kill

0:59:03that person because the internet was

0:59:04attended the whole experiment the whole

0:59:06like rationale given by jimmy stewart is

0:59:08are talking about murder is justifiable

0:59:10way of what you want you want to get

0:59:11into the restaurant you

0:59:13get theater tickets like I think that

0:59:14the there is a overriding philosophy

0:59:17thereof you know it feels like

0:59:18everybody's stupid should be he should

0:59:20be able to kill anybody stupid that he

0:59:21wants to like he may not be at uncle

0:59:23Charlie levels yet of thinking the whole

0:59:25world's a joke but like if he kept going

0:59:27for a while he would definitely end up

0:59:29there

0:59:29well I mean that's part of why he's

0:59:31invited the the former boyfriend of the

0:59:34girl friend is like well if we get David

0:59:35out of the way they're actually a better

0:59:37couple you know we'll we'll shove them

0:59:39back together and it's it's all social

0:59:42engineering

0:59:43although I mean not there anything that

0:59:44he cares about right like he doesn't

0:59:46actually care about the happiness of

0:59:47either of those people right you just

0:59:49want to be manipulative exactly i think

0:59:51that might have been part of his plan

0:59:52though to cover for what why isn't David

0:59:54hero well he must have known that I was

0:59:56gonna be here so we just decided not to

0:59:58come that too or that you did

0:59:58come that too or that you did

1:00:00invite him because you just want to

1:00:01manipulate us into like being feeling

1:00:03awkward about the fact that we used to

1:00:05be in a relationship

1:00:06my favorite thing in this is probably

1:00:08the scene where and you know this

1:00:11happens at several points where the

1:00:12cameras view is not where the action is

1:00:15yeah or at least not when attacking not

1:00:18where the talking is and it is an animal

1:00:20and the bettin it happened several times

1:00:21the best one is as we very slowly watch

1:00:25the housekeeper's still cleaning up the

1:00:29stronger because she's going to take all

1:00:30the stuff off of the trunk and then open

1:00:32the trunk and put all the books in the

1:00:34trunk with thereby revealing the dead

1:00:36body one of the best suspense moments i

1:00:38think in any Hitchcock it's just amazing

1:00:40and there's no music and it's just a

1:00:42conversation and she walks all the way

1:00:44down the hall she's so smitten kitchen

1:00:47walks all the way better walks all the

1:00:48way down the hall again you know it's

1:00:50just it's enjoyed every time she gets a

1:00:52little closer your breath catches in

1:00:53this conversation happening and you have

1:00:55at several points in this film this

1:00:57overlapped conversation sorry Robert

1:00:58Altman asked in bits and it's like the

1:01:01point is not it's a dinner party let

1:01:02people are having different

1:01:04conversations at different places and

1:01:06that's all the hubbub is happening while

1:01:07we very slowly watch and that is just

1:01:09the realization it starts and it just

1:01:12keeps getting worse and worse that she

1:01:13is going to open that trunk and it's

1:01:16amazing and for people who aren't

1:01:18familiar with the scene it's not as

1:01:19though all they're just gonna have to

1:01:20like lift up the truck it's no it's

1:01:22completely set there's a tablecloth on

1:01:24it like empty their use plates on their

1:01:26candelabra on top of it every single

1:01:28layer it's like okay not going to blow

1:01:30out the candle state the candelabra way

1:01:32walk walk walk walk walk walk away walk

1:01:34back and only take all the guys got this

1:01:37train I'd take all these empty plates

1:01:38walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk

1:01:40walk away it yet all the while you are

1:01:43rushing to the conclusion so that you

1:01:45get there way before she is physically

1:01:47able to get to that point and that

1:01:49creates some amazing suspense it is a

1:01:51fantastic see and the shot ends with the

1:01:54shadow of somebody suddenly walking in

1:01:56which is really impressive when you

1:01:58realize they needed to do special

1:01:59lighting just actually cast a shadow on

1:02:01the ground shot that got me even before

1:02:03that though was actually tweeted up

1:02:06because i was just i just love this shot

1:02:07so much watching us rewatching in the

1:02:09afternoon and those watchin on the iPad

1:02:12and just the shot where ever known ever

1:02:14since the dinner party's in full swing

1:02:16nobody has any suspicion anything's

1:02:18going on and then there's a conversation

1:02:20that there's a casual shot of jimmy

1:02:22stewart and then he just holds on that

1:02:25shot for I had time it out more than 20

1:02:28seconds just count yourself right now

1:02:30not right now but like think about how

1:02:33long 20 seconds really is and imagine

1:02:35that it's just that the cameras not

1:02:37pulling in it's just a static shot of

1:02:38him listening to these two murderers

1:02:40talk idly and you sense that there's

1:02:43this little thing happening in the back

1:02:45of Jimmy stores eyes that's I don't know

1:02:47what's wrong but something's very wrong

1:02:49here and that's the first things i see a

1:02:52thread dangling at the end of this cable

1:02:53knit sweater and keep pulling start

1:02:55pulling on that thread until this whole

1:02:57thing comes apart if I can tip my hand

1:02:59here

1:03:00the reason i picked this movie is

1:03:02because i think it's indicative of

1:03:05Hitchcock's approach to a suspense movie

1:03:07and I'm going to paraphrase a quote that

1:03:11he once said where it basically a good

1:03:14suspense movie is the audience knows

1:03:16that there's a bomb and that it's gonna

1:03:19go off at one o'clock and no one no one

1:03:22on the screen knows that it's gonna go

1:03:24off at one o'clock and they're talking

1:03:25about all these trivial matters and all

1:03:28this the stupidity and the audience is

1:03:30sitting there going to come are doled

1:03:32oh and that and that is basically what

1:03:36he doesn't rope and i followed the way I

1:03:39heard it and I was gonna say this too is

1:03:41that you know if if you show two guys

1:03:43having a conversation at the table and

1:03:45it's the most boring thing in the world

1:03:47and after 10 minutes the table blows up

1:03:49you've got a quick shock and all it blew

1:03:52up

1:03:53but if you start the shot from under the

1:03:54table and you see the bomb and then you

1:03:57come up you the exact same boring

1:03:59conversation but the whole time you like

1:04:01get out of the way it's gonna blow yeah

1:04:04you know in the most boring thing is is

1:04:07exciting of the opening shot of

1:04:10touch of evil or some movie yeah exactly

1:04:12what the bomb in the car i was thinking

1:04:14of inglourious basterds yeah also be out

1:04:16with onion floor

1:04:18yeah like there's this long conversation

1:04:19that doesn't go anywhere but oh god what

1:04:22if you look over there

1:04:23similar i think when i when i watch this

1:04:25for a film class at some point you talk

1:04:27about the difference between surprise

1:04:28and suspense we're just surprised as you

1:04:29know everybody on the screen you know

1:04:31it's the jump scaring in a horror movie

1:04:33where the killer jumps out with a knife

1:04:34right and the people on the screen are

1:04:36surprised and you are also surprised the

1:04:38audience but now like Phillip saying you

1:04:40and the audience have been let in on the

1:04:42secret you know something that the

1:04:43characters don't and that's where the

1:04:44tension starts to exist and that is why

1:04:47he's so good at yeah i think because a

1:04:49psycho and birds Hitchcock wrongly gets

1:04:53painted with the the more movie brush

1:04:55and he doesn't do horror movies he does

1:04:57he does suspense movies and and really

1:04:59does spine movies too

1:05:01yeah where where where it's it's tension

1:05:04and you know what's gonna happen but the

1:05:07characters don't know what's gonna

1:05:09happen and and how in the hell are they

1:05:11gonna get out of this and that's that

1:05:12that that's what makes this movie's

1:05:14interesting what do we never see do we

1:05:17ever see Jimmy Stewart come in

1:05:20no he just appears just appears he's

1:05:23coming down the hall when we are

1:05:24distract we're distracted elsewhere he's

1:05:26been talked about i really like that and

1:05:28then and then he suddenly they're not

1:05:30all that works so effectively probably

1:05:32know season because we know because we

1:05:35know that voice and we know that person

1:05:37i think that i think that's what makes

1:05:38that work but it's great because he's

1:05:40the one they've been kind of waiting to

1:05:41see and it's also the hammer dropping of

1:05:43like here's the complication these other

1:05:45people are probably not a problem

1:05:47this guy is going to be a problem right

1:05:49and they start to get John doll gets

1:05:51nervous he freaks out right Brandon

1:05:52freaks out like you he starts stuttering

1:05:54and Jimmy Stewart notices that Yunis

1:05:56stuttering yeah very excited

1:05:59yeah I was mad about that line he says

1:06:01you always did stutter when you were

1:06:02excited if anyone in the world doesn't

1:06:04get to make fun of someone stuttering

1:06:05it's Jimmy school I just love that it's

1:06:10almost full 20 minutes before even

1:06:12appear yeah and we keep hearing about

1:06:14him and he's the important guests and

1:06:16just like Colombo yeah i like to put in

1:06:19a good word both for John doll hero

1:06:22unfortunate didn't really go on to my

1:06:23chels but he's really likes marmol

1:06:27Ygritte in this role so psychopath again

1:06:30like just disturbed and also i want to

1:06:33put in a really good word for drunk

1:06:35Farley Granger who is my favorite part

1:06:37was nothing just gets increasingly drunk

1:06:41as the camera pans away from it goes

1:06:43back it was just increasingly

1:06:44nonsensical got a John Doe gave me a

1:06:47Cumberbatch kind of ya feel that very

1:06:51similar kind of kind of feeling there I

1:06:53liked him a lot of a reptilian yeah

1:06:55and-and-and yet drunk Phillips trunk

1:06:58Phillip is awesome and so is drunk

1:07:00fairly green happened what increasingly

1:07:05out of control and you know and again

1:07:08you don't want to take Brandon side but

1:07:09you have that moment where you're like I

1:07:11love ya

1:07:12we want to just pop that's funny but you

1:07:15do take you to take brand is I'd almost

1:07:17almost up until the point where Jimmy

1:07:19Stewart returns and does colombo yeah

1:07:22because you're you're wondering how

1:07:24these guys gonna get caught and the

1:07:25tension there is not I hope somebody

1:07:27figures what out what's going on it's

1:07:29actually doesn't yeah everything is

1:07:31alright and then and then Jimmy Stewart

1:07:34turns up again and brandon has a gun and

1:07:36you realize that he's in real danger and

1:07:38then you're on Stuart side is very much

1:07:40like a Colombo also in that you do sort

1:07:44of want to root for the killer you want

1:07:46him to get away with it because you know

1:07:47Colombo is so good and you know he's not

1:07:49gonna get away

1:07:50yeah okay well yes and no I it it did

1:07:53rip it right me of colombo for almost

1:07:55exactly that reason but the thing is

1:07:56something it's not about finding out who

1:07:58the killer is or if you're gonna come to

1:08:00justice because you kind of know that

1:08:02they're going to get caught it really is

1:08:04what are we going to learn about this

1:08:05killer over the course of this these

1:08:09events especially as the pressure mounts

1:08:11and mounts and mounts how are they going

1:08:13to react to it are they going to

1:08:15increase sometimes some of the Colombo's

1:08:17they just increasingly are reason they

1:08:19know that ok I'm on borrowed time but i

1:08:21can do a few things to maybe by myself

1:08:24more time but I know this isn't it is

1:08:25inevitable their self-delusion sometimes

1:08:28and sometimes i'm going to double down

1:08:29on this I but watching watching Philip

1:08:33watching Farley Granger just unspool is

1:08:35exact

1:08:36the reason why you love this but that

1:08:38there's something there's so many

1:08:39there's so many shots there's so many

1:08:41shots you just love about this and some

1:08:43of them were just looks so cheeseball if

1:08:45they were not being done by a master how

1:08:48about he's getting it will have Farley

1:08:50Granger playing piano just sort of like

1:08:52to bleed off some of the tension and

1:08:54look casual and Jimmy Stewart just sort

1:08:56of Saunders off and say oh you're such a

1:08:58good piano player can't believe that I

1:09:00didn't think that we would have a

1:09:01metronome and he starts ticking

1:09:03yeah which is super distracting if

1:09:06you're trying to play piano intro page

1:09:08of dialogue something not just the

1:09:10slider to get go faster and faster and

1:09:13faster and using that Granger is not

1:09:17playing faster but he's making more

1:09:19mistakes now I like oh you just want to

1:09:21rewind and play that back because oh

1:09:24good heavens that is brilliant the great

1:09:26bit there is when it seems like Jimmy

1:09:28Stewart is getting off track and and

1:09:30Phillip starts to laugh and the tempo

1:09:32slows down and it starts you know

1:09:34becoming less and less dissonant and

1:09:36then Rupert kind of gets a little closer

1:09:39to the truth again and it speeds up

1:09:40again and and the whole thing starts a

1:09:42new it's just it's a fantastic scene

1:09:44when just the choreography of this i

1:09:47mean it it was based on stage play and

1:09:49it has the feel of a play

1:09:51yes film which a lot of movies that are

1:09:53adapted darkness

1:09:54it is very staging but the thing I love

1:09:57about it is just just the sheer

1:09:58choreography that had to go into it not

1:10:00just that it was the continuous takes

1:10:03but you know the walls and the furniture

1:10:05sliding in and out having to put the

1:10:07furniture back and have the camera one

1:10:09really huge cameras of the time yeah

1:10:12related on the scenery that just the

1:10:14Cyclorama behind it it's not a painting

1:10:17you know you've got lights coming on in

1:10:19buildings and still only other families

1:10:21and our got spun glass clouds that are

1:10:24moving through the whole thing and

1:10:27apparently he reshot the second half of

1:10:28the movie because he wasn't satisfied

1:10:30with the sunset

1:10:31yeah it's staging but the camera is

1:10:33always moving around and going to angles

1:10:36with the set

1:10:37you clearly could stage it so everybody

1:10:40just playing straight out and you should

1:10:41like i love lucy and

1:10:43right yeah but it i think you get a full

1:10:46view I think you get like three and 60°

1:10:48at some point where you see just about

1:10:50every angle of the room which you don't

1:10:53usually get the movie too

1:10:54well then you up the difficulty factor

1:10:56by insisting on doing eight-minute takes

1:10:58forever yeah something goes wrong in

1:11:00minutes 6 it's like oh well get another

1:11:02real in there let's get going again if

1:11:04I'm TV trivia is to be believed you know

1:11:07you have like cat camera people being

1:11:09having their feet run over by cameras

1:11:11and and like he dragged off to screen

1:11:14your way from the back so like a civil

1:11:17war Hospital in there there's so much

1:11:19you don't consider until you start

1:11:20thinking about that because I was also

1:11:22really probably the same articles you

1:11:23were I think I didn't think about that

1:11:25because these are huge cameras and

1:11:27they're huge like transatlantic pipeline

1:11:29cables connecting everything up and so

1:11:31all these actors have to like being

1:11:33stolen from the waist up while they're

1:11:34like hopscotching over these moving

1:11:36cables 31st the seam I feel like the the

1:11:40opening sequence we're looking through

1:11:42the curtains is probably a nod to the

1:11:44fact that this is basically a stage play

1:11:46being yes the current era it doesn't

1:11:49actually open but we get the impression

1:11:50i think maybe my favorite visual gag in

1:11:54the whole movie is you know when they

1:11:57open with the side curtains and there's

1:11:59that neon sign that is literally right

1:12:01on top of there ready to rain yeah and

1:12:03and it's just there and and so it's kind

1:12:06of this joke of you know here is this

1:12:07neon blinking the whole time right this

1:12:10neon in the middle now we know why he's

1:12:12insane

1:12:13well and but then at the end you know

1:12:15now it's discovered they found the body

1:12:17and and injury Stewart is fired off his

1:12:20gun and your people calling the police

1:12:21and they all just kind of settle down

1:12:23and now because of the darkness and the

1:12:25shifting of light it winds up becoming

1:12:28police lights right yeah right so for

1:12:30chance there's a foreshadow there

1:12:32yeah and it's just so nice my perception

1:12:34was that the Leon lights were in blue

1:12:36until we get to Jimmy Stewart comes back

1:12:39to find a cigarette case and that's when

1:12:42the lights are now read

1:12:43yeah well they're green to red flashing

1:12:45yeah they always say I didn't know

1:12:47something ready-to-wear that might just

1:12:48be my brain see my favorite visual

1:12:50flourishes in that movie are the

1:12:52different things they do with the road

1:12:54there's the scene there yeah well

1:12:55disposed in another part of the rope in

1:12:58the kitchen while the kitchen door is

1:12:59flat agenda enclose yeah he makes a big

1:13:02production of dropping in the drawer and

1:13:05then there's a scene where it's a

1:13:07close-up of the rope because he's tied

1:13:09the books that he's going to give

1:13:10David's father with it which is really

1:13:12sick when you think about it and then uh

1:13:15when Jimmy Stewart returns he the the

1:13:18camera zooms in on his pocket as he

1:13:20pulls the rope slowly out of it 2-2 to

1:13:23reveal that he what a sick mofo really

1:13:28the Rope should have gotten top building

1:13:30in the second let's get the name of the

1:13:32movie with the actual character starring

1:13:36some rope as soon as himself introducing

1:13:39and I one credit you know the one loose

1:13:41end I feel like they really didn't have

1:13:43that friend sorry that no I was gonna

1:13:46say the that was a funny joke not I'm

1:13:49afraid I disagree

1:13:51don't be naughty that's what you're

1:13:53hoping for Phil this is what you bought

1:13:55a promised David hat is is left in the

1:13:58closet which is kind of an amateur yeah

1:14:00it's a perfect Drive shut up and i don't

1:14:05have room for you Leopold and Loeb we

1:14:07thought they did the perfect crime and

1:14:08one of them left his glasses they're all

1:14:13criminals not-so-bright premieres every

1:14:16phase of this crime is so asinine that

1:14:18how anybody even at sociopath could

1:14:20think it was a perfect crime defy his

1:14:22logic eat it I think that's part of its

1:14:25its its elegance in some ways is that it

1:14:28is totally it's it's / the moment right

1:14:31in like it you know even if they

1:14:32premeditate with certain extent it's so

1:14:34ridiculous the idea of like it's so

1:14:35ridiculous it just might work

1:14:37so the thinking is that everybody would

1:14:39think now that's far too stupid for

1:14:40those two intelligent boys to have try

1:14:43well I think it's just no one would ever

1:14:44think that they would do right like it

1:14:46it's so ridiculous so over-the-top how

1:14:48well rather they not even Jimmy Stewart

1:14:50believes that they would do a former

1:14:52classmate of mine who is now in

1:14:55the US Justice Department once said to

1:14:57me thank God criminals are so stupid she

1:15:00is about the about the staging of it i

1:15:03wanted to say that i love that it feels

1:15:07it's got its got the dynamic feeling of

1:15:10the of a stage play with one difference

1:15:12being where the camera goes and that is

1:15:14the that is the power that the director

1:15:16has over you to point you where you

1:15:18should be looking at all times which in

1:15:21my mind actually magnifies the effect of

1:15:23this I I thought that made it a

1:15:26supremely effective because it its it's

1:15:28going to a stage play and always looking

1:15:30exactly where you need to look and I

1:15:33yeah I I i really enjoyed this i thought

1:15:36this was actually spectacularly good

1:15:39I i like the whole thing quite a lot so

1:15:43i get i give it give it a big thumbs up

1:15:45I thought it was just incredibly

1:15:47effective and intense and I like the

1:15:49fact that we were moving around in this

1:15:51in this space it was 88 you know it had

1:15:55a cinematic element with the with the

1:15:57way the cameras moving around but it

1:15:58also felt like it was just riveting

1:15:59theater and it's not an experience I've

1:16:02had in many films so I really appreciate

1:16:05it

1:16:06I just can't get over how it sits it

1:16:08really is like X Games downhill

1:16:11snowboarding where it's just see him I'm

1:16:13yes yes I could just jump this but why

1:16:15not what I just do a backflip while

1:16:17you're doing this like i'm gonna i'm

1:16:19gonna show you how to our depth i am and

1:16:22how absolutely fearless I am that

1:16:25anybody else would absolutely snap their

1:16:28neck and four places if they try to do

1:16:30some of the things that I'm trying to

1:16:32get away with here and yet when he does

1:16:34it you just viewed you don't even notice

1:16:36that the first time particularly and

1:16:38then your nose to the second time and

1:16:40you think oh I just noticed that

1:16:42Oh wasn't that interesting and what

1:16:46flare

1:16:47yeah I'm right with you here Jason I I

1:16:48loved everything about some thought the

1:16:50acting was superb

1:16:52I i loved this sort of gallows humor

1:16:54that popped up

1:16:55oh yeah ik frequently there's a line

1:16:59where Janet says I hope you knock them

1:17:00dead two fellow yeah exactly

1:17:02there's another one where she says I

1:17:04could really strangle you Brandon

1:17:06and you when you're quite a good chicken

1:17:09strangling over the chicken is a chicken

1:17:11strangling his subjects

1:17:13I'm not a chicken strangler and their

1:17:14struggle the chicken that's that's the

1:17:17equivalent of ripping the newspaper

1:17:19right like giving away a little too much

1:17:21here we know what is safety word is I

1:17:23also like the with the introduction of

1:17:25Jimmy Stewart to Nancy when she says did

1:17:28he do me justice his responses do you

1:17:30deserve justice

1:17:31i actually laughed out loud that it was

1:17:34hilarious

1:17:35there's a lot of really nice details in

1:17:36here I like the fact that at the end he

1:17:39leaves two bullets in the gun there's

1:17:41there's 130 yeah Lenny fires three out

1:17:44the window and I thought that was why he

1:17:46keeps to in the chamber in case he needs

1:17:48one for each of the boys I haven't seen

1:17:50this before and that absolutely popped

1:17:51up yeah I ran that back to actually

1:17:53count on with more shots at fired nice

1:17:55everybody left to he's gonna kill both

1:17:57yeah if a truck if they give him trouble

1:18:00that's what he's gonna do and I really

1:18:02like the way that the tables turn when

1:18:04Rupert returns because he's so cocksure

1:18:07throughout the first the party segment

1:18:09and when he comes back and it's he's

1:18:11pretty clear on the fact that the guys

1:18:13got the gun he now just seems all too

1:18:15fallible and he suddenly seems genuinely

1:18:17nervous about what he's gotten himself

1:18:18into and I think that is just that's

1:18:20fantastic

1:18:21the desperation with which he's he goes

1:18:24to he goes to Jimmy Stewart and tries to

1:18:26I've I believe that I can talk him into

1:18:28being an accomplice to because oh my god

1:18:31we are cut from the same cloth we r we r

1:18:33skindred spirits and he will be more

1:18:35than happy to help me cover up this

1:18:37murder invent a pic department actually

1:18:40thought almost up until the very end

1:18:41that he might just turn that was the

1:18:43question right and didn't think I didn't

1:18:45think so but I ok I'd I didn't have the

1:18:49same experiences i think in a modern

1:18:50film i would have thought that it was

1:18:52possible in this with Jimmy Stewart

1:18:54being the character is giving Stewart

1:18:57he's not a killer clown in this one so

1:18:59if there's a turn that I was sort of

1:19:01half wondering what's gonna happen is if

1:19:04if they if they are kind of the same

1:19:06people he would definitely come back not

1:19:08necessarily to bring them to justice but

1:19:10i know that i could inflict a lot of

1:19:12suffering if I just let them quietly try

1:19:16to figure out if I know or find just

1:19:18simply the

1:19:19website just really for my cigarette

1:19:20case and oh and the up until the time

1:19:23when he just opens the window and sticks

1:19:26his hand out there with a gun and fired

1:19:28shots into the air which is not the even

1:19:31if I thought that ok maybe he's going to

1:19:32call people and I would never have

1:19:34figured out that he's gonna do the most

1:19:36painful way possible yeah which is going

1:19:39to be no we're just going to sit out

1:19:40here while I've got the gun into bullets

1:19:42and you're gonna listen to the commotion

1:19:43and are going to listen to police siren

1:19:45start to come and they're just gonna be

1:19:47so we're gonna try to guess where that

1:19:49shot came from

1:19:50yeah it's gonna take at least its mark

1:19:52too because it because if he tries to

1:19:54make for the door there's a chance he

1:19:55could still be overpowered by those two

1:19:57I mean he's got a bum leg

1:19:59there's two of them were younger he's

1:20:00ruined the perfection of their crime at

1:20:02this point because you know you're not

1:20:03you're not getting a truck with a body

1:20:04out yet the department under these

1:20:06circumstances I so I steve and i have

1:20:08professed our approval of this one the

1:20:11the rest of you guys wanna want to jump

1:20:13in here before we wrap it up I kind of

1:20:15find it gimmicky like I spend a lot of

1:20:19the time watching the camera thinking oh

1:20:22they just had to swap that table in when

1:20:25the camera move over there oh here comes

1:20:27the hidden cut like camera work is very

1:20:30fancy i think it may be too fancy and

1:20:34maybe fancy for its own sake for me you

1:20:37know i actually got most of the way

1:20:38through the movie before I remembered

1:20:40that I had read somewhere that it was

1:20:41all done in one continuous shot and so

1:20:43that didn't distract me I could

1:20:45definitely see it doing so and i

1:20:46remember that in advance but it wasn't

1:20:49so gimmicky to me that it was always

1:20:51poking out at me and tell the jacket

1:20:53zoom seen and that was kind of reading i

1:20:55agree with with Monty that it's it's

1:20:57gimmicky but i don't think that attracts

1:20:59necessarily from it like if it's the

1:21:01kind of thing where I feel like you know

1:21:03again like I think and he was saying

1:21:05earlier in other hands it would probably

1:21:07come off a lot worse but since there's

1:21:10chops to sort of back it up here and

1:21:12because the action is so electrifying

1:21:14and that the actor to do such a great

1:21:16job of capturing your attention

1:21:18I don't find it as distracting as it

1:21:20otherwise would have been I mean I've

1:21:22seen rope a number of times now and it

1:21:24still manages that scene you know that

1:21:26Jason was talking about with the

1:21:27housekeeper walking down the hall and

1:21:30then all the way back like never

1:21:31fails to like put a catching my breath

1:21:33just it's so well-executed even having

1:21:36seen this movie several times in knowing

1:21:38exactly what was gonna happen afterwards

1:21:40you still have that moment of like oh

1:21:42dear god she's gonna open it in front of

1:21:43all these people that would be terrible

1:21:45you know and so I think that it's it's

1:21:48agree with Phil's you know casting this

1:21:51as an underrated movie since I know it

1:21:52didn't didn't do very well at the time

1:21:54but it is technically I think there's a

1:21:56lot of stuff going on here and it just

1:21:58shows the breath and range of

1:22:00Hitchcock's talent that he can do a

1:22:02movie like this as well as a movie like

1:22:04you know rear window you could argue is

1:22:06gimmicky I think it's his best movie

1:22:08that's my favorite of his but you know

1:22:09you could certainly argue make an

1:22:10argument for the gimmickry of it but he

1:22:13key in some ways does really well when

1:22:15he has those constraints to work with i

1:22:16think it really brings out some of his

1:22:18creativity

1:22:19yeah I philly you know the reading up on

1:22:23this film after I watched it to find out

1:22:25that it was it seems to have generally

1:22:27not gotten very good reviews and even

1:22:29revisited it you know decades later it

1:22:31didn't really get very good reviews also

1:22:33that Hitchcock said that he thought it

1:22:35was a failed experiment and that it was

1:22:36essentially unseen force York's a decade

1:22:40least favorite movie that he did with

1:22:42Hitchcock he'd done enjoy this movie and

1:22:44so I read all this after having watched

1:22:46it and I thought wow everybody's wrong

1:22:50yeah and maybe it's because it's 2015

1:22:54now and and it's not 1948 but it from

1:22:58the perspective of somebody watching it

1:22:59for the first time in 2015

1:23:01like I thought it was kinda terrific so

1:23:03I felt like it was fresh in a way that i

1:23:05have not experienced in awhile i've not

1:23:08seen a film like this it's I mean it's

1:23:10very the the language is very arch like

1:23:13at the Broadway writing at the time and

1:23:15I mean that's the only thing for me is

1:23:17that I can conserve see the the stilted

1:23:20language and that pulls me out of it a

1:23:21little bit but I don't mind because the

1:23:23tension is so good and and the yeah and

1:23:26again it's it's like a really good

1:23:28colombo like that I've seen it maybe

1:23:30eight or nine times the dialogue the

1:23:33dialogue is brackets can really take you

1:23:36out of the movie if you pay too much

1:23:38attention to it which is a weird thing

1:23:40to say and the camera work in the movie

1:23:42can really take you out of it

1:23:44if you're focused on the camera work but

1:23:46i really like the the tension of it i

1:23:50like that it is the very definition of

1:23:52suspense and I really think there's

1:23:55something to be said we have this vision

1:23:57of Jimmy Stewart as this clean-cut

1:24:00all-american guy and in this movie is a

1:24:02complete dick

1:24:03yeah and I i really like movies where

1:24:08Jimmy Stewart plays a dick anatomy after

1:24:11the Thin Man anatomy of a murder at the

1:24:13naked spur at these these are really

1:24:15enjoyable movies which I i would

1:24:18recommend even though he solves the

1:24:19crime I mean what he's really saying is

1:24:21hey I may I may have written about how

1:24:24you should go ahead and kill people

1:24:25without feeling bad but I didn't mean

1:24:27for you to do it i mean it's not it is a

1:24:30new host reaction he has because he's a

1:24:33jerk

1:24:34once and it's that he's realized that

1:24:35this was all a huge mistake if you know

1:24:38this this cause everything in his life

1:24:40into question it is the dark version of

1:24:42the Marshall McLuhan cameo and Annie

1:24:44haha no might work this 1i i thought was

1:24:48aces I really you know I think you hit

1:24:50it out of the park with with these Phil

1:24:52good i might be the best thing that I've

1:24:54seen on old movie club

1:24:56well yeah I i agree i don't have to

1:24:59correct that I think I enjoyed rope more

1:25:01than I've enjoyed any of the selections

1:25:03an old movie club so far like when we

1:25:05were done I turned to my turn to Lauren

1:25:07I was like that was terrific and I don't

1:25:09know usually it's like well that's

1:25:11another rule moving the books

1:25:12well Addison has kiss me deadly but

1:25:15people didn't bring this time I like the

1:25:18fact that it's compact they get it all

1:25:20done in an hour and 20 and we've seen

1:25:22some films that are a little stretched

1:25:23out just what you guys are saying you

1:25:26like row better than singing in the rain

1:25:28or duck soup

1:25:30well that's crazy talk about duck soup i

1:25:32cant yeah I know jack duck soup i just

1:25:34watched all the time and you know I I

1:25:36wouldn't say that is already said that

1:25:38he doesn't like singing I don't like

1:25:40singing because we're watching their

1:25:42excrement our soul should yeah i think i

1:25:46would probably it's that's that's a

1:25:48tough call money I've got to say both

1:25:50all three of those are I think quite

1:25:52great movies I like singing in the rain

1:25:54a lot i think i probably would we watch

1:25:56this

1:25:57first before I rewatching the others

1:25:58sick so I so I've said that a shadow of

1:26:02a doubt is my favorite and and more and

1:26:03said that I think rear window is his

1:26:06favorite Hitchcock movie did

1:26:07does anyone else have a favorite

1:26:09Hitchcock they want to throw out there

1:26:10but I actually like the 39 steps a whole

1:26:14lot of the 39 steps I i really enjoy the

1:26:16movie

1:26:17I we we could discuss that now but i

1:26:19think this podcast with last five hours

1:26:21indeed he started to throw out super fun

1:26:24like North by Northwest but more action

1:26:27yeah and harder to understand yeah I i

1:26:31love North by Northwest just because but

1:26:36I love fun what you love

1:26:38find anything crazy well I've seen all

1:26:40of for Hitchcock movies including these

1:26:42two and i gotta say i'm a psycho guy but

1:26:46that's you know that's just a second

1:26:48house it's charts

1:26:49secondly I think it i think the the

1:26:51great thing about psycho is there or the

1:26:53things i like about it is the is so much

1:26:55of the stuff that doesn't have to do

1:26:56with the everybody boils down to the

1:26:58shower scene or you know the Norman

1:27:00Bates reveal sort of at the end and

1:27:02there is so much more going on in that

1:27:04yes it's a fascinating movie I i just

1:27:07cannot have seen a number of times for

1:27:09film classes and things like that it's

1:27:10just everytime i watch it a secret

1:27:12there's so much stuff going on here that

1:27:13you don't even pay attention to its all

1:27:15these different movies and one and I

1:27:17think some of the best stuff happens

1:27:18with so great even turns up

1:27:20well as I mean if it is essentially a

1:27:22psychotic movie is a movie that has a

1:27:24psychotic break because it starts in one

1:27:25place and go someplace cold never ended

1:27:28well that's not really my father going

1:27:30to see psycho in the theater was one of

1:27:32his like I mean to this day one of his

1:27:34favorite film going experiences because

1:27:36nobody said anything nobody knew what it

1:27:39was about nobody boiled it

1:27:41yeah you get 20 minutes into the movie

1:27:43and suddenly wait a minute you just

1:27:45killed the main character

1:27:47what the hell's going on huh you could

1:27:49argue that's gimmicky to but it like

1:27:50again and different in different hands

1:27:52that might not that might have been a

1:27:54terrible movie but Hitchcock can pull it

1:27:56off

1:27:56I'm gonna go with the understand by the

1:27:59way and say that I think we're window is

1:28:00my favorite peanuts

1:28:02it's not a classy answer but I actually

1:28:05really like Alfred Hitchcock Presents

1:28:06there are not a lot of

1:28:08respected directors that have a theme

1:28:10song that come from their comics /

1:28:13mccobb anthology television show

1:28:17I respect that about him and there are a

1:28:18lot of good episodes that Samsung people

1:28:20still remember to yeah my favorite

1:28:24probably has to be dial M for murder

1:28:26oh because you're my love as I like

1:28:29psycho but the problem with it is that

1:28:31for me I see it once and then I see it

1:28:34twice and there's really I have to I

1:28:36have to be enjoying only like the craft

1:28:38of it there really nothing else I can

1:28:40really save her

1:28:41what I love about dial M for murder is

1:28:43Ray Milland the greatest to me the

1:28:45greatest Hitchcock murderer ever because

1:28:48he is so clever and he's showing so much

1:28:51agility he has what is legitimately a

1:28:53really really good well-thought-out plan

1:28:56and then something throws a monkey

1:28:58wrench in it and instead of like oh my

1:29:00god I got cover this up its wait a

1:29:01minute this could be even better and

1:29:04this really is the classic case of I

1:29:05kind of hope he gets away with it

1:29:08yeah because he's he deserves the win in

1:29:11that sense and the other great thing is

1:29:12that the inspector who is this little

1:29:14running around expect our it's back to

1:29:17talk to them for yall already like

1:29:19Rockets did you stab silly bunny sudden

1:29:22that you already had one key sound but

1:29:25really watching rainbow laughter watch

1:29:27ray milland do that to do that the movie

1:29:30once every month for the rest of my life

1:29:32and never get bored with it i also have

1:29:35thought was lucky enough to see a 3d

1:29:37screening of this game you're speaking

1:29:39of gimmicky yeah okay but what about of

1:29:41you don't have to see it in 3di I was on

1:29:443d like maybe the tenth time I saw an

1:29:47obvious the shots that they set up for

1:29:493d USA for the 3d you want all three

1:29:52dimensions happen but it's made maybe

1:29:55that's also the benefit of having had

1:29:56the opportunity to see it does i didn't

1:29:58think was terribly gimmicky whenever

1:30:00when I started like in flat land but

1:30:03when i saw it in the UU basic you have

1:30:05two of two projections in the in the in

1:30:07the lighthouse you're wearing like not

1:30:09red green glasses your we can see things

1:30:11in true color and you have this moment

1:30:13where you know that there's something

1:30:16between you and the thing you want to

1:30:18see at the entire audience leans to the

1:30:20left

1:30:21see around that lamp so i can see the

1:30:23person who just entered that's like okay

1:30:25this guy knew how to deal with 3d yeah

1:30:28so to counteract this positivity 44

1:30:31listeners out there who wanna like dive

1:30:34into the Hitchcock cool let me steer you

1:30:36away from three movies I don't watch the

1:30:40wrong man don't watch the trouble with

1:30:43harry and for God's sake don't watch the

1:30:45birds who I like the birds with special

1:30:49effects do not hold up better it's got

1:30:51some great scenes that all the birds on

1:30:53the jungle fever still just a great as

1:30:55they doing there anyways there want a

1:30:57steak sink it

1:30:58watch two minutes of the bird it's not

1:31:00that way family plot

1:31:03not so much now to cap I don't like to

1:31:06catch a thief i know a lot of people dad

1:31:08if I something black and something

1:31:10lacking in it for me that it should be

1:31:12better than it is it has my favorite

1:31:14Hitchcock cameo but aside from that

1:31:17though I do watch notorious yeah which

1:31:21is fantastic

1:31:22no I completely forgot about Rebecca a

1:31:24new answers that you guys alright

1:31:25because I like second floor we are seven

1:31:28areas very good yes foreign

1:31:30correspondents very good i just watched

1:31:31that recently I like I want and if you

1:31:33like if you want Farley Granger and rope

1:31:36you love them and strength strangers on

1:31:38a train

1:31:39great movie this is another stupid plan

1:31:41by the way

1:31:42yeah that crisscross thank god they're

1:31:46so stupid has my friend once it's got

1:31:48nothing on putting soda in your in your

1:31:50coffee with the also to poison trick

1:31:54alright well i think has been a

1:31:55successful edition of the old movie club

1:31:58well we can't have that happen again no

1:31:59no pic heard terrible things but nobody

1:32:02should watch for a theme magic its host

1:32:04oh you've plotted the perfect cat

1:32:07interesting

1:32:08nobody look in the trunk did I mention

1:32:12that i've had something to drink I hope

1:32:14nobody looks at the trial already

1:32:16disposed of my recording so i had the

1:32:18table laid out and then they said you

1:32:20can't Sherman on the table and they made

1:32:22me all bring everything over the trunk

1:32:24for no reason reason he added that the

1:32:27podcast get Jackson you got it so that

1:32:30the crime was

1:32:31headed out something like sometimes you

1:32:37gotta kill the podcast you love your

1:32:40plan all along

1:32:42hmm ok I'd like to thank my guests for

1:32:44joining me on another edition of the old

1:32:46movie club money actually thanks for

1:32:48being here thank you I didn't kill

1:32:50anybody

1:32:51no not yet i did Laura thank you thank

1:32:54you and unlike rope I'm glad that this

1:32:57David was here for the whole thing and

1:32:59leave

1:33:00hey yes that's right go back in your

1:33:02trunk now sir

1:33:03yeah well kandi not go thank you very

1:33:06much

1:33:07I admit that I did it but the real

1:33:09criminal is the society that made me Dan

1:33:11Morgan thanks for being here i had

1:33:14equipped and then they went off the

1:33:15rails pleasure to be here now I hope

1:33:17there wasn't another train coming in the

1:33:19other direction when you're just gonna

1:33:21have you guys it was gonna be out the

1:33:22coffee you guys were all drinking I

1:33:24don't know

1:33:24and Steve let's thank you know you

1:33:27standing here I'm going to get myself a

1:33:29bottle of beer and for putting this all

1:33:33together Phil Michaels thank you with

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