The Incomparable

232: Learning to Love Heidi II

 

  so put your little hand in mine [TS]

  no he'll mountain we can't climb babe I [TS]

  got you babe I got you been the [TS]

  incomparable number 232 Groundhog Day [TS]

  welcome back and ready to the [TS]

  uncomfortable podcast I'm your host [TS]

  Jason Snell and tonight we're going to [TS]

  be talking about a fine fine film some [TS]

  might say one of the classics it not [TS]

  just of recent memory but of all time I [TS]

  might actually make that proposal but we [TS]

  will get we will will take some time [TS]

  introducing people when i mentioned that [TS]

  the movie i'm talking about is Groundhog [TS]

  Day starring bill murray who is beloved [TS]

  as well as other actors who are less [TS]

  love it [TS]

  ante in deed joining me to talk about [TS]

  groundhog day are fine group of people [TS]

  Steve let's hello [TS]

  okay campers rise and shine and don't [TS]

  forget your booties because it's cold [TS]

  out there [TS]

  yes indeed Erica and signs also out [TS]

  there hi hello i sure as heckfire agree [TS]

  that this is a movie is a classic ships [TS]

  others is also out there hi chip [TS]

  Jason I'm reliving the same podcast over [TS]

  and over the incomparable Groundhog Day [TS]

  review today [TS]

  that's right how'd it go in previous [TS]

  loops chip dammit you called me out [TS]

  dan Frakes joins us who is a an [TS]

  occasional participant in this little [TS]

  podcaster virus High Dam [TS]

  hello Jason occasional it's good to have [TS]

  you here thank you [TS]

  do you have a reference for me know okay [TS]

  I'm here because my wife hates this [TS]

  movie and this is the only time I get to [TS]

  talk about it so well there are people [TS]

  that hate this movie [TS]

  dan needlenose dan dan the head oh [TS]

  that's right yeah and Monty actually is [TS]

  also the also here hi Monty hi i can [TS]

  think of a lot of references but I have [TS]

  this weird feeling that somebody else [TS]

  has already done them already [TS]

  haha yes [TS]

  previous universe so I 1983 little bit [TS]

  let's let's get some things out of the [TS]

  way here [TS]

  first off that I'm your wet I'm your [TS]

  weatherman song [TS]

  is atrocious and must be can i love it [TS]

  necessarily because we're like harold [TS]

  ramis incident not not a not a good song [TS]

  i disagree completely i love that song [TS]

  everytime i hear it starting up like I [TS]

  was grooving on the couch I don't know [TS]

  what stephen thought I was doing but I [TS]

  was having a very good time I enjoy the [TS]

  list [TS]

  it's better when the work before the [TS]

  word start but once the word start is [TS]

  not know the way it's ridiculous but I [TS]

  like ridiculous it is very much of its [TS]

  time [TS]

  yes that yeah i'll make you smile game [TS]

  if you don't win [TS]

  take me about can't you [TS]

  and then this was my larger point is [TS]

  it's got that it's got the goofy song [TS]

  there's so many things in this that [TS]

  would lead you to believe that this is a [TS]

  kind of disposable early nineties comedy [TS]

  romantic comedy the poster also with [TS]

  Bill Murray throwing up his hands in a [TS]

  clock in an alarm clock as and Miguel [TS]

  does a sort of sears photo studio pose [TS]

  with a fist on her chin really just the [TS]

  existence of Andie McDowell and I was [TS]

  going to say and then also the existence [TS]

  of Annie miquelon chris elliott as [TS]

  supporting players in this film Lee [TS]

  would lead you to believe that this [TS]

  might not be a film added to the united [TS]

  states national film registry as [TS]

  culturally historically wrong or [TS]

  aesthetically significant' but indeed it [TS]

  has [TS]

  so I guess that that might be where I [TS]

  want to start is the credits over the [TS]

  clouds don't both very well well you [TS]

  know you get some stock footage of blue [TS]

  sky with some clouds to make sense later [TS]

  but it doesn't really get the juices [TS]

  flowing for the fellow mile thick not [TS]

  well erica was was bobbing and weaving [TS]

  during that sure was a series is all [TS]

  those clouds i was you know and i think [TS]

  this is definitely a case of the the the [TS]

  some it is greater than the sum of its [TS]

  parts because yeah if that weatherman [TS]

  song was in a different movie and [TS]

  probably wouldn't have the nice fuzzy [TS]

  warm feelings toward that I do i forgot [TS]

  existed frankly until I was such a short [TS]

  time the movie of the song the song i [TS]

  remember the movie very well I know that [TS]

  guitar parts on another guitar far apart [TS]

  from the store man cause it's in the DVD [TS]

  menu and like oh yeah right away it just [TS]

  got about a PowerPoint file right we're [TS]

  just having different originally because [TS]

  mine plays the score [TS]

  Jason you have the DVD i have which has [TS]

  like the old almost like it looks like [TS]

  Annie world cartoon city and that might [TS]

  be right i I have a very early DVD and [TS]

  then I just got the blu-ray [TS]

  last year so nobody why have the blu-ray [TS]

  the 15th anniversary edition that very [TS]

  nice menu with the score over in the [TS]

  middle of miles from my calendars and [TS]

  then there's some heated shots of the [TS]

  phil getting slapped [TS]

  now that's better oh no I'm old-school [TS]

  I've got a clear original DVD cartoon [TS]

  punxsutawney layout map ya that ya might [TS]

  be more grading just to get rid of that [TS]

  guitar I don't they have room for me to [TS]

  go on an hour long rant about how men [TS]

  you should just not have sound on them [TS]

  at all [TS]

  oh I might be right there with ya it's [TS]

  so good just saying I watched it on [TS]

  amazon streaming video on a reading the [TS]

  imac with chris elliott walking around [TS]

  carrying a betacam and it just broke my [TS]

  mind it is it's an old movie now I guess [TS]

  issued this should be old movie club [TS]

  this movie is 22 years old now you can [TS]

  say that don't so no no this yeah I must [TS]

  got the DVD very very early that there [TS]

  was a blu-ray sale i think it [TS]

  conveniently like about a week after [TS]

  Groundhog Day last year when that they [TS]

  had run out the prices in advance of [TS]

  Groundhog Day and then afterward there [TS]

  was a sale and blu-ray was like seven [TS]

  bucks or something huh [TS]

  looks good looks good on blu-ray the HD [TS]

  version is very nice [TS]

  we need a screenshot of that of the old [TS]

  one Jason I do have that somewhere i [TS]

  should actually take that awful DVD out [TS]

  because it is it's very bad it's it's so [TS]

  bad anyway the movie is not bad although [TS]

  ok so the funny thing about this movie [TS]

  the remarkable thing about this movie [TS]

  right is that obviously Bill Murray is [TS]

  stuck in a time loop he lives groundhog [TS]

  day over and over again [TS]

  spoilers for Groundhog Day you know [TS]

  seven groundhog day are you listening to [TS]

  this [TS]

  what is wrong with you if you haven't [TS]

  seen the movie and right you listen to a [TS]

  podcast about groundhog day and then get [TS]

  mad at us when it turned out to be about [TS]

  groundhog day yeah haha they thought it [TS]

  was about the holiday [TS]

  yeah salute to ground it was like one [TS]

  listener out there who's like quietly [TS]

  talking to be dissing me I'm sorry [TS]

  listener but you should stop and watch [TS]

  and watch the movie anyway what what [TS]

  struck me this time watching it is all [TS]

  the scenes before they get get to [TS]

  Punxsutawney seem like like everything [TS]

  else seem like out of another left [TS]

  the movie the whole he's got his whole [TS]

  weatherman stick at the TV station in [TS]

  Pittsburgh where he's in front of the [TS]

  blue screen doing his his wacky [TS]

  weatherman sort of like when David [TS]

  Letterman was a weatherman Indiana I [TS]

  think I I me like it's a very similar [TS]

  kind of thing he's it these are the [TS]

  jokes folks and obviously the the [TS]

  anchorwoman hates him and everybody else [TS]

  hates him argument it all just seems so [TS]

  it's like something out of a totally [TS]

  different movie and i find it it must [TS]

  mean something that my brain just [TS]

  completely blocks out everything before [TS]

  we get to Punxsutawney i was watching [TS]

  the the the director commentary and [TS]

  Danny Ruben was saying that actually [TS]

  that was never supposed to be in the [TS]

  movie when he wrote the original [TS]

  screenplay [TS]

  he wanted the movie to start right where [TS]

  where the things are happening over and [TS]

  over and over he didn't want any of the [TS]

  backstory he didn't think it mattered [TS]

  and harold ramis had to say you've got [TS]

  to set it up people have to like no [TS]

  that's guy's a jerk beforehand and [TS]

  they've got to know you know what she [TS]

  was coming from and why there and and it [TS]

  was a big point of debate actually [TS]

  between them and / the the DVD [TS]

  commentary Ramos told him for sure that [TS]

  that is the one thing he would not [TS]

  change about his script it turns out [TS]

  that was the first thing that changed [TS]

  the batteries Korea which i think is [TS]

  great because it would be to me a much [TS]

  lesser movie if it started somewhere in [TS]

  the middle of the it needs the origin [TS]

  story I think well indeed the origin [TS]

  story but as far as I'm concerned you [TS]

  can start with his first time going [TS]

  through that day you can rely on Bill [TS]

  Murray to convey that this character is [TS]

  a Dirk and no one likes him [TS]

  just on the first iteration of Groundhog [TS]

  Day certainly in my head that's where [TS]

  the movie starts [TS]

  possibly because everything and that [TS]

  they happen so many times that right we [TS]

  need we need time to be introduced to [TS]

  the other great characters in this how [TS]

  could we do without the the whimsical [TS]

  andie macdowell playing in front of the [TS]

  blue screens and that's that [TS]

  well it helps that there's 12 times as [TS]

  much Stephen Tobolowsky as there is [TS]

  anybody else the I i would also say [TS]

  something about this that struck me was [TS]

  when they get to Punxsutawney on the on [TS]

  on the first I'm also surprised it out [TS]

  how perfunctory that is I think it's an [TS]

  interest [TS]

  a choice that we spend time in the [TS]

  weather you weather Center than in the [TS]

  newsroom for the and the TV set in [TS]

  Pittsburgh where we learn that Phil is [TS]

  you know not very happy and not very [TS]

  well-liked and all these things and and [TS]

  almost no time in Punxsutawney where I [TS]

  was wondering to myself maybe it [TS]

  would've been better to start the movie [TS]

  with them coming in to Punxsutawney and [TS]

  setting up Phil is kind of an unpleasant [TS]

  person there but we never leave the [TS]

  outskirts you know the boundary of [TS]

  Punxsutawney because as it is they get [TS]

  there and you know they're they're going [TS]

  to the cheap hotel and he's gonna [TS]

  complain and be a prima donna right [TS]

  prima donnas right i'm donna and she's [TS]

  like oh no we're going to drop you off [TS]

  here and he's like alright and then and [TS]

  then cut to its the next morning and I i [TS]

  always think like what what did you do [TS]

  that night did he do anything [TS]

  interesting you know have been thinking [TS]

  that tomorrow would be a normal day and [TS]

  the answer is nope nope no time for that [TS]

  Sonny and Cher need to play let's just [TS]

  move along and I think that's a little [TS]

  strange i wonder if the if the movie [TS]

  might have been better if they had just [TS]

  started in Punxsutawney on the evening [TS]

  of the first rather than having the [TS]

  Pittsburgh thing i don't know i don't [TS]

  think so I like the contrast I like the [TS]

  fact that we do get a little bit of time [TS]

  that's outside punxsutawney where things [TS]

  change and things progress and then all [TS]

  of a sudden he's in the wormhole and [TS]

  there and there we go [TS]

  it's also nice to see where he's coming [TS]

  from you know he spends a lot of time [TS]

  talking about how he he wants to move on [TS]

  and become you don't do something better [TS]

  and he acts like such a prima donna but [TS]

  we've seen in the beginning of the film [TS]

  now she was going to have anything to be [TS]

  a prima donna about he's not really his [TS]

  job [TS]

  no just call himself the talent he's [TS]

  always be not only and that is the thing [TS]

  the TV people saying I always thought it [TS]

  was ridiculous but that the best one [TS]

  right is that you know how it there's [TS]

  not gonna be any snow it's gonna be fine [TS]

  it's gonna miss us the blizzards not [TS]

  going to happen and he and every gonna [TS]

  every day he gets hit with the fact that [TS]

  he made the wrong protection as you [TS]

  cycle through he's a very bad weatherman [TS]

  so something I noticed that for the [TS]

  first time when I was watching this time [TS]

  was that as a drive into punxsutawney [TS]

  they pass by the Alpine theatre which is [TS]

  is presume the one theater in [TS]

  Punxsutawney right Heidi 10 and it's [TS]

  playing I'd had never seen that Heidi [TS]

  too [TS]

  classic was the one movie he was stuck [TS]

  with and then you and then it turns out [TS]

  later when he's a when he shows up at [TS]

  the film with the dresses Clint Eastwood [TS]

  wouldn't have made my he he talks about [TS]

  how he loves this movie he's seen it [TS]

  over a hundred times [TS]

  that's the film he had to watch over a [TS]

  hundred times it's heidi to you too [TS]

  Emily classic I which doesn't exist by [TS]

  our way there is no Heidi to unless you [TS]

  count the fact that there is a Heidi to [TS]

  which is a pornographic German feeling [TS]

  pretty kind of class family classic the [TS]

  Marquis is referring to Rome and explain [TS]

  her costume when he takes the french [TS]

  maid that's just why I just always [TS]

  assumed it was wishful thinking on [TS]

  Harold Ramis part yeah you're creating [TS]

  your own world some of a perfect world [TS]

  to its yeah always dreamed up its really [TS]

  could have made Heidi to why wouldn't he [TS]

  do that [TS]

  well he died too soon taken us one of [TS]

  the great games to play with this movie [TS]

  is to try to guess how long he bill [TS]

  murray spending his time loop and and [TS]

  that's one of those moments that gives [TS]

  you some perspective on the the depths [TS]

  of of how he's lived this life is that [TS]

  he's he's watched Heidi to like a [TS]

  hundred times Heidi too and that's that [TS]

  certainly didn't watch that every night [TS]

  no I hate those trivia questions that I [TS]

  see sometimes it asking how many times [TS]

  to Bill Murray lived through his life in [TS]

  Groundhog Day and the answer is always [TS]

  whatever however mean more like you [TS]

  however many you see on screen and it's [TS]

  clear that that is not how many there [TS]

  are it i mean in that this is one of the [TS]

  few movies I've ever watched the DVD [TS]

  extras for because I'm not usually a fan [TS]

  of the VAM the value-added material but [TS]

  this one was really interesting talking [TS]

  I think it's harold ramis talking about [TS]

  how how dark this movie actually is the [TS]

  the number of lifetime's that this poor [TS]

  guy has lived over and over and over [TS]

  again [TS]

  I mean I did that when you get to the [TS]

  suicide part it makes sense the original [TS]

  script was even darker it was I think [TS]

  the original treatment it was supposed [TS]

  to be like about 10,000 years yeah well [TS]

  just the piano like crazy practicing the [TS]

  piano one hour a day [TS]

  yes but everything [TS]

  and maybe not even everyday i'm sure [TS]

  there are some days he decided he just [TS]

  wanted to flip cards into a hat [TS]

  I'm gonna assume that's the only song he [TS]

  knows good yeah I think that's probably [TS]

  right well he played at the day several [TS]

  he played me played aren't you want for [TS]

  my improv jazz and everything what's not [TS]

  improv if you know exactly what's [TS]

  happening tonight everybody in the world [TS]

  and every second yeah [TS]

  oh don't know he had to work on those [TS]

  was faking process euphoric own back 2x [TS]

  take what I'm gonna try and be sharp [TS]

  there [TS]

  oh now I've got something but several a [TS]

  third he becomes the least popular man [TS]

  in town because he can no longer do [TS]

  everything else but also he robbed that [TS]

  Bank i assumed afterwards that he [TS]

  retained all that knowledge maybe yeah [TS]

  artistic but I think so absolutely i [TS]

  mean look okay with it he's a god let's [TS]

  get it let's go you're not the god just [TS]

  a guy's guy I i do love that I love to [TS]

  be a barking dog but whenever he's [TS]

  walking through the day where you get [TS]

  the sense that he's just reading writing [TS]

  the script of the day barking dog or [TS]

  Cobra our media picks up the pics of the [TS]

  bag of money and then when he does that [TS]

  for reading in the diner and and and and [TS]

  then goes through who everybody is and [TS]

  how he knows every single fact there is [TS]

  to know every atom of everything in this [TS]

  town he knows at this point that's that [TS]

  moment of of you know you think I'm [TS]

  crazy but I can prove that I can i [TS]

  actually have all these things you [TS]

  realize he has spent literally you know [TS]

  air every amount of time you could ever [TS]

  conceive of a lifetime in this one day [TS]

  and this in this one town knows it [TS]

  completely that moment reminds me of a [TS]

  video game you played a lot where you [TS]

  can walk into the letter say [TS]

  all right that guy has the script that [TS]

  guy is this script at exactly six turned [TS]

  up for I walk in the King goes over [TS]

  there [TS]

  yeah you know I wondered and maybe it [TS]

  wasn't meant to be this but this time i [TS]

  watched I was thinking about it [TS]

  perhaps you know the fact that people [TS]

  want to repeat the same exact things [TS]

  every single day no matter kind of what [TS]

  he starts to say to them is a commentary [TS]

  on how much people are simply waiting [TS]

  for you to shut up so they can see the [TS]

  next things in the brain or is that a [TS]

  commentary on our podcast work [TS]

  ah interesting interesting what having [TS]

  just been on a podcast about a subject [TS]

  that we did a podcast about for the [TS]

  uncomfortable [TS]

  and having not listen to our episode [TS]

  about it since we recorded i discovered [TS]

  that i was saying the same things that I [TS]

  had said in the previous podcast I just [TS]

  you know so i think there's also that of [TS]

  just were programmed to react when I [TS]

  added a podcast honestly this is very [TS]

  narrow groundhog day when I had a [TS]

  podcast i find myself laughing at things [TS]

  that people say and I can hear myself [TS]

  laughing at the same time in the same [TS]

  way on a recording to the things that [TS]

  people are saying so yeah that's what I [TS]

  mean that that's part of the fascination [TS]

  of this movie right is that these [TS]

  characters he he can he can kind of [TS]

  program them but they're also they have [TS]

  their default responses and and it one [TS]

  of the joys of stephen tobolowsky and [TS]

  the character is that that is a great [TS]

  that is a great sequence of reactions [TS]

  that lead to a very funny plant [TS]

  literally punch line where it's like let [TS]

  me try this let me try this let me try [TS]

  this and and there's like I could punch [TS]

  him [TS]

  I can hug him there are many things i [TS]

  could do with this guy [TS]

  let's see what he does and that's kind [TS]

  of beautiful because you know that he's [TS]

  just he's trying to find all the [TS]

  variations of behavior from all these [TS]

  people because they will start in the [TS]

  exact same place every time it does make [TS]

  me wonder after all of the time he spent [TS]

  on this one day weather after the [TS]

  credits roll the realization dawns on [TS]

  him that suddenly he's got to live a [TS]

  different day and he just falls into a [TS]

  deep depression about the fact that he [TS]

  has he no longer has the whole thing peg [TS]

  dsds to work it out on his own now he's [TS]

  used to getting up and walking down and [TS]

  turning on jeopardy and now something [TS]

  else is happening and the first time [TS]

  someone says hey there's that guy [TS]

  what you didn't say that oh no that's [TS]

  why i might he become so unpopular in [TS]

  the next day because the next day and [TS]

  jeopardise number not gonna know all the [TS]

  answers [TS]

  yeah this is a totally different episode [TS]

  of Jeopardy I I think that's why the [TS]

  last couple of scenes in the movie are [TS]

  really important it's really important [TS]

  to see him on the third and to see that [TS]

  he's and we can get into the philosophy [TS]

  of this later because i think that's [TS]

  that's one of the most important things [TS]

  about this movie but the when you see [TS]

  him at the end [TS]

  he's at peace right hehe has come to a [TS]

  point where he's a he's a piece he's [TS]

  he's that's it that's how he escaped [TS]

  loop essentially is that he perfects [TS]

  this day and and he moves on and and so [TS]

  I think it's super important he says I [TS]

  think we should live here you know what [TS]

  will rent to start you know and all that [TS]

  and that he seems ok because you're [TS]

  right the other way to view this is that [TS]

  he is a complete wreck because after [TS]

  10,000 years he's in another day and now [TS]

  he doesn't know what to do and that [TS]

  would be really depressing ending or [TS]

  third option [TS]

  he now has to live the third over and [TS]

  over again and I thought about that day [TS]

  all around hard day to the day after day [TS]

  after grandma 93 groundhog you to you [TS]

  know watching this is steven spending [TS]

  the first day of every third so he [TS]

  decided that this is one of the cruelest [TS]

  movies he had ever seen because it's [TS]

  always almost as first day and it never [TS]

  gets there the universe gave him a break [TS]

  the third was the day that they changed [TS]

  reels at the movie theater [TS]

  Heidi to imagine being trapped in that I [TS]

  love that joke is there but it's just [TS]

  sitting there for you to notice which is [TS]

  how you're trapped in the town where the [TS]

  only movie you can watch as Heidi to the [TS]

  only TV show you can watch you can watch [TS]

  that one episode of jeopardy but he [TS]

  learned to love Heidi too he did after a [TS]

  hundred-plus view exposed to anything [TS]

  that's one of the things are exposed to [TS]

  anything for long enough to learn all of [TS]

  its nuances like this town that he hates [TS]

  that hates going to he learns to love it [TS]

  but after after knowing it properly [TS]

  uh I i tried what we do these movies on [TS]

  the hot podcast i tried to take notes [TS]

  about what's going on and I i did like [TS]

  five of them and I i gave up because [TS]

  this is a movie that's impossible to [TS]

  chart on one level and on another level [TS]

  I've seen it so many times that I can I [TS]

  know what's in it so I i just kind of [TS]

  gave up because it's so weird because [TS]

  once we're in the time loop [TS]

  it's just you know really where replay [TS]

  events i always wonder that I assume [TS]

  they shot it where all of the different [TS]

  sequences were just shot in a row [TS]

  because you want everything to be [TS]

  exactly the same and that this must have [TS]

  been a very strange movie to shoot then [TS]

  because you're literally just doing [TS]

  eight variations on one scene 4 days and [TS]

  then you move on to the next set of [TS]

  scene so you're you know you're at the [TS]

  at the little gazebo where the where the [TS]

  groundhog is for three days and then [TS]

  you're off to punching net Ryerson for [TS]

  for three days and we'll Ramos said that [TS]

  about that scene with with phil and Ned [TS]

  Ryerson where they they had to be [TS]

  careful because every time they date [TS]

  they they showed this the scene they [TS]

  wanted the the fog be the same they [TS]

  wanted the lighting to be the same that [TS]

  time of day so they just you know we get [TS]

  up in the morning and they would do like [TS]

  shot after shot after shot after shot [TS]

  and each time Murray would be like well [TS]

  I'm gonna be sarcastic this time right [TS]

  I'm gonna be I'm gonna hug you this time [TS]

  and they would just keep doing it over [TS]

  and over again and then if it didn't get [TS]

  enough shoots shots in then they'd have [TS]

  to like you know take photos the sky and [TS]

  then wait till next day it was like that [TS]

  and they do a bunch more but he said [TS]

  yeah he said it was actually hard acting [TS]

  because you're like okay I got two [TS]

  different the last time rather than the [TS]

  same which is how you usually do when [TS]

  you act right [TS]

  mmm yeah very strange I've been a miner [TS]

  this is like sort of blending but not [TS]

  really [TS]

  they shot this movie in which documents [TS]

  to kill annoy which I've been to yes [TS]

  I've been in that town square and it is [TS]

  yeah well right Indian you're from [TS]

  Chicago and it's like every time I see [TS]

  you I'm like oh yeah I had a I had a hot [TS]

  chocolate and a doughnut at that bakery [TS]

  that's on the corner there and they did [TS]

  they actually have signs now of right [TS]

  raspberry this is where this is where [TS]

  Ned priors cut it simply was just bored [TS]

  here this is the puddle my high school [TS]

  used to a nice to play against [TS]

  woodstocks team in tournaments [TS]

  wow yeah amazing like famous yeah aren't [TS]

  letting me yet like i was ever a team to [TS]

  get a plumbing amazing so it's a cute [TS]

  too cute little town it's not my mom [TS]

  actually grew up next to Punxsutawney [TS]

  Pennsylvania but they didn't shoot it in [TS]

  Punxsutawney Pennsylvania once I learned [TS]

  it was Woodstock I can't see the movie [TS]

  now and think tanks on yeah I know stock [TS]

  III somebody on Twitter the other night [TS]

  was talking about how you can view this [TS]

  movie is Bill Murray progressively gets [TS]

  improves as a human being and so is a [TS]

  dip but he tries to get better [TS]

  where's chris elliott the more you know [TS]

  about him the more awful he is easter [TS]

  thought it was kind of talked about that [TS]

  on the [TS]

  I'm the holiday vault episode where this [TS]

  was brought up and I i reject the theory [TS]

  because I don't think he changes that [TS]

  much in the movie no I I think it's just [TS]

  revealed to us that using the more we [TS]

  learn about him the more awful he is [TS]

  right where she does really he tries to [TS]

  pick up Nancy poorly and then he shapes [TS]

  the waiter on the I'll get this exit and [TS]

  then he embarrasses himself at the [TS]

  bachelor auction [TS]

  yeah things that yeah that's true but [TS]

  that's not it that's not really it's not [TS]

  just all these he's an unattractive just [TS]

  appeal you know the way it is his fault [TS]

  the way that he sort of like tries to [TS]

  you know flex its muscles and dance [TS]

  around a little bit that's that's just [TS]

  icky i wouldn't care if he did have nice [TS]

  muscles that looks stupid but why like [TS]

  the idea of that sort of parallel [TS]

  timeline going on i just i don't see it [TS]

  that much [TS]

  although i don't think i don't think [TS]

  that that bill murray actually comes off [TS]

  as that awful at the beginning either [TS]

  mean he's clearly kind of a broken man [TS]

  but the worst he does really is he talks [TS]

  a little trash to Andie MacDowell [TS]

  clearly deserves it prima donnas he [TS]

  thinks he's a little bit you know higher [TS]

  and mightier than he is he thinks he's [TS]

  the talent and then he treats a chris [TS]

  elliott kind of poorly as well but then [TS]

  again you know it's true what most would [TS]

  not exactly a quick perhaps I actually [TS]

  was like crystals led in the role though [TS]

  I think he was good for ya [TS]

  he works very well he has one of my [TS]

  favorite one of my favorite lines in one [TS]

  of my favorite movies with lots of great [TS]

  lines is when fill in the groundhog [TS]

  drive off the great races into the into [TS]

  the quarry is a swell he might have [TS]

  survived and then there's a gigantic [TS]

  impossible explosion assistance as well [TS]

  probably not probably not now [TS]

  now now that's beautiful minus rod I [TS]

  didn't actually want to see this movie [TS]

  when it came out because for one thing [TS]

  the trailer made it look ridiculous [TS]

  because it showed scenes of him driving [TS]

  with the groundhog don't Drive Angry [TS]

  thing and then I was like oh chris [TS]

  elliott isn't it i I can't stand that [TS]

  guy I'm i refuse to see this movie and [TS]

  then when I was Andie McDowell's just [TS]

  like nope [TS]

  okay I'm out but eventually somebody [TS]

  wants me to watch all the signs were [TS]

  there that it would favor [TS]

  I'm starting to think you guys are not [TS]

  gonna be on board for the Hudson Hawk [TS]

  yeah Andy Miguel ok let's talk let's [TS]

  talk about the individual problems much [TS]

  and she's in several movies that i [TS]

  really like I still don't like her like [TS]

  I love for weddings and a funeral but i [TS]

  just cannot can't take her [TS]

  I i think there are things in this movie [TS]

  that made me laugh because I think [TS]

  they're very ending the dow like like [TS]

  the love of rhinestones and they're all [TS]

  these things that I think you know if [TS]

  this was me if this was make Ryan or [TS]

  some other kind of romantic comedy [TS]

  actress we would be like look like the [TS]

  quirks that sally has and when harry met [TS]

  sally right if those were the quirks of [TS]

  Rita here it would be like oh that's so [TS]

  adorable and instead they're also [TS]

  annoying she likes the French poetry and [TS]

  she has the sweet vermouth on the rocks [TS]

  is your favorite rain for god sake [TS]

  and.and she--and and wanted to post to [TS]

  like to toast to world peace and she [TS]

  goes oh hi mom when Bill Murray says he [TS]

  gives a prayer and social world peace [TS]

  and she live in altitude from the [TS]

  mountain back at high elevation I do [TS]

  think she's less offensively bad in this [TS]

  movie than most of the movies she's been [TS]

  in certainly because in this she's she's [TS]

  supposed to be kind of a big doofus [TS]

  so when she turns out to be one it [TS]

  actually works a little bit although she [TS]

  is still irritating but she does I think [TS]

  she does successfully pull off sweet [TS]

  yellow although it is it's it's kind of [TS]

  in a to brain-damaged for malice kind of [TS]

  way she's almost sort of an ethereal [TS]

  Pixie dream girl you know she's just [TS]

  she's just she's there to be an object [TS]

  to be adored I mean she's not really a [TS]

  character [TS]

  yeah you're right you're right i think [TS]

  there's there's a progression there we [TS]

  learn more about here but I think you're [TS]

  right in the sense that this is not a [TS]

  movie about [TS]

  Bill Murray learning who she is and [TS]

  appreciating who she is it's it's I mean [TS]

  it's about him perfecting himself but by [TS]

  being willing to learn about her not [TS]

  about her her i mean literally she can't [TS]

  grow right cuz ya groundhog day but I i [TS]

  I'm so I think that's I think that's [TS]

  fair i mean what we really see is Bill [TS]

  Murray learning to appreciate her for [TS]

  who she is given you know what little [TS]

  information he can clean on this one [TS]

  particularly well but she's also a the [TS]

  antithesis for his character the [TS]

  beginning right men that he's a jerk and [TS]

  sleazy and she's you know at heart a [TS]

  good nice simple person who who you [TS]

  can't dislike right and then it's just [TS]

  kind of like this is your everything [TS]

  she's not that's basically what his [TS]

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  the incomparable I think the one the one [TS]

  thing that bugs me a tiny little bit [TS]

  about this movie is the resolution when [TS]

  it comes to her because that last day [TS]

  for whatever reason she completely Falls [TS]

  for him in one day so she's known him [TS]

  for you know she's new with the new [TS]

  station but she's been there long enough [TS]

  to get an idea of who hear the person [TS]

  and then suddenly he makes an abrupt [TS]

  shift in acts different and just because [TS]

  he's nice to everybody else she [TS]

  completely Falls for him and it just [TS]

  seems a little bit and maybe maybe [TS]

  that's just she is that sweet and nice [TS]

  and perhaps a little bubble-headed that [TS]

  that's the kind of thing that she'll [TS]

  just go for I don't know [TS]

  yeah the last day is sort of problematic [TS]

  for a variety of reasons but i think [TS]

  that's the main well and we spend the [TS]

  whole movie with her not falling for [TS]

  that and not falling for him even when [TS]

  he does everything perfectly right [TS]

  staged and then you could argue that [TS]

  what makes her fall for him is not him [TS]

  it so it's not him trying to put the [TS]

  moves on it and then it's not him trying [TS]

  to do exactly what she thinks she wants [TS]

  to hear [TS]

  in the end the thing that gets her is [TS]

  him being in this community and [TS]

  understanding these people and knowing [TS]

  about them and sort of caring for them [TS]

  and being able to do the right things [TS]

  and being liked by them and so you could [TS]

  argue that in the end what winter / is [TS]

  that she didn't realize that when they [TS]

  go to Punxsutawney Pennsylvania he is [TS]

  completely beloved by all the people in [TS]

  the town and cares about all these you [TS]

  know strangers essentially so I mean I'm [TS]

  not sure I buy that but that that's the [TS]

  difference is that it she really [TS]

  impressed with how he works with the [TS]

  town more than when he's working on her [TS]

  and I could like a goodbye that if they [TS]

  were if they were there for several days [TS]

  but when you think about the amount of [TS]

  time he spends running around town [TS]

  making everybody else like him she only [TS]

  really sees him like that at that party [TS]

  scene at the end and then when they [TS]

  wander around town afterwards so exact [TS]

  wherewhere with them all day but she she [TS]

  sees him in the morning and she sees him [TS]

  again at night and the only thing that [TS]

  really mean sure all these people are [TS]

  coming up to him and say well he did all [TS]

  these great things during the day but [TS]

  she doesn't really know what those [TS]

  things are so why does you know and and [TS]

  the other thing is that makes me think [TS]

  that she's really falling for him [TS]

  because he can play the piano because [TS]

  the other stuff is so minor and that [TS]

  doesn't add much to her character for me [TS]

  why did he fall for her there's no he [TS]

  fell for her because she's the only one [TS]

  in town that he can't bet that's my [TS]

  that's my opinion to theory so your [TS]

  theory is that there's a whole series of [TS]

  scenes where he had sex with every other [TS]

  person in town yes i like and that's one [TS]

  of the reason for his attraction to her [TS]

  is because she's the only chickentown [TS]

  has no chance a point i don't know he he [TS]

  does say that the first time he saw her [TS]

  and this is when she's asleep so he has [TS]

  no reason to lie [TS]

  the first time he saw her she changed [TS]

  something in him and made him want to be [TS]

  better so I think that maybe groundhog [TS]

  day was just an opportunity for that to [TS]

  play itself out whereas if you didn't [TS]

  relive the steak and again he would have [TS]

  just like squash that down like we all [TS]

  do with so many good intention that I [TS]

  started I these made up that mythology [TS]

  in his own mind to explain why key by [TS]

  easy but that's not really it she's [TS]

  gonna tease been doing this for ten [TS]

  thousand years he's going to get some of [TS]

  the details wrong in the know about when [TS]

  he first met well that's an interesting [TS]

  point you'll notice for all his talk of [TS]

  falling in love with her at first sight [TS]

  he does not start in on her until he's [TS]

  already had his way with half if not all [TS]

  of the town do you think even remembers [TS]

  what it's like what temporary first was [TS]

  like does he know his old address may be [TS]

  that one needs to move to this town has [TS]

  not been a weatherman a long time and [TS]

  all the weather has been exactly the [TS]

  same so he's really out of practice [TS]

  yeah it doesn't know where the studio is [TS]

  c by fascinated by your theory juices [TS]

  are you positing that uh that Phil [TS]

  Connors has bedded the the tree of the [TS]

  trio of old ladies [TS]

  yes he's definitely been with them he [TS]

  was Doris the way to break in [TS]

  Robin ducal for a spin alrighty old hobo [TS]

  for a bit of variety Debbie the bride [TS]

  you absolutely girls are wearing yeah [TS]

  she's already having questions about her [TS]

  upcoming wedding that one of the [TS]

  brilliant things about this movie is [TS]

  that we really can there there are huge [TS]

  gaps here because this this is not [TS]

  anybody who has that trivia question [TS]

  like Erica said about how [TS]

  he loops are shown yes but the [TS]

  implication here is that there is a you [TS]

  know nearly infinite number of loops [TS]

  that we haven't seen that has allowed [TS]

  all sorts of crazy things to happen and [TS]

  I actually like the movie gets dark in [TS]

  the middle where he despairs that he [TS]

  goes through these various points it end [TS]

  up the process of being trapped in this [TS]

  day it is the learning i enjoy the the [TS]

  you know we can drive on the railroad [TS]

  tracks so i can get put in jail and it [TS]

  doesn't matter [TS]

  and then and then I can rob the better [TS]

  the armored car and it doesn't matter [TS]

  and yeah and then that aggression he [TS]

  goes through seems very very natural yes [TS]

  he gets he skis confused then he's [TS]

  panicked then he's despairing then he [TS]

  goes through like a risk-taking phase [TS]

  that he realizes you can take advantage [TS]

  of the situation and then there's a [TS]

  whole segment trying to bed and mcdowell [TS]

  which seems kind of ill-advised maybe [TS]

  still is risk-taking but whatever that [TS]

  he's depressed then he suicidally [TS]

  depressed then finally has resigned and [TS]

  decides he's willing to take a stab at [TS]

  redemption and that all kind of seems [TS]

  like a really organic way that most [TS]

  people would probably deal with this [TS]

  situation will he snap at the moment he [TS]

  snaps we're here where he steals the [TS]

  groundhog [TS]

  hey which is maybe my favorite thing in [TS]

  the movies like destroy the ground dog [TS]

  and and ends up going off the cliff at [TS]

  the quarry which also has a fascinating [TS]

  moment that I think maybe the only [TS]

  example of this video in the entire [TS]

  movie which is they see his dead body so [TS]

  the implication there is that the day [TS]

  continues whether he's alive or dead and [TS]

  then it resets oh no that's I want after [TS]

  he after jumping off the tower of the [TS]

  right okay don't you write writes that [TS]

  to their lease Oded seeing the dead body [TS]

  that's fascinating because it's like [TS]

  it's not just his perspective the whole [TS]

  day goes on but there's nobody there to [TS]

  observe it minute and then reset switch [TS]

  is fast me but I love that he in that in [TS]

  those depths he's that that he hits rock [TS]

  bottom and then realizes there's nothing [TS]

  you can do there's like literally [TS]

  nothing he can do to stop this in my [TS]

  dark head I you know I a fill-in extra [TS]

  days like there had to have been times [TS]

  where he went still some guns and went [TS]

  on shooting rampages okay yes I'm sure [TS]

  you've got much much darker but they had [TS]

  to cut that sort of you know he doesn't [TS]

  have that in a family we when you get [TS]

  right down to it when he's trying to bed [TS]

  and mcdowell that is actually really [TS]

  creepy [TS]

  oh yeah [TS]

  I was 40 yeah i mean eat when he's [TS]

  moving he's been pushing the right [TS]

  buttons right room and trying harder and [TS]

  harder it's it gets really damn [TS]

  uncomfortable for me and I didn't know [TS]

  if I was just watching it with the [TS]

  2014-2015 eyes or if it felt that creepy [TS]

  one when i saw in the first in theater [TS]

  and I didn't remember it but that's [TS]

  awfully don't if you're still reading [TS]

  2014 on your eyes [TS]

  no you're right no any and it's meant to [TS]

  be the idea there is that he is he is [TS]

  manipulating those situations he is [TS]

  robotic Lee laughs I i think it's a [TS]

  chilling scene where he is getting his [TS]

  rehearsing what he says to her at the [TS]

  bar and is there something wrong way and [TS]

  the world yeah anything he says he says [TS]

  like okay this remove remove you know [TS]

  what he's getting been toasted world [TS]

  peace right that is super creepy because [TS]

  that and that that's like the phase of [TS]

  of his relationship with her where there [TS]

  he's just trying to please her and say [TS]

  the right thing and it and it still [TS]

  doesn't work the the Isle of the moment [TS]

  also where he totally is freaked out and [TS]

  trying to rush through the snowball [TS]

  fight [TS]

  hey yeah really and i love the whole [TS]

  read a courtship exclusively because it [TS]

  gives the opportunity for them to show [TS]

  how on the first day as the extract some [TS]

  new tidbit of information from from from [TS]

  rita he sounds totally natural and then [TS]

  on subsequent repeats of the same lines [TS]

  they sound more and more force like he's [TS]

  reading from a script and it culminated [TS]

  in that that snowball fight scene where [TS]

  he's in the first scene is playful and [TS]

  he's having this that the fight with the [TS]

  kids and he's kind of you know it seems [TS]

  like he's having fun and then he goes [TS]

  out early manic in the last one that we [TS]

  see it's it's like a video game right i [TS]

  mean we we made this analogy earlier [TS]

  he's literally just going through steps [TS]

  and realizes if he doesn't trace retrace [TS]

  his steps he can't get to the next bit [TS]

  and it's gonna reset and he's gonna have [TS]

  to do it again and again it's like [TS]

  losing in the middle of a level and [TS]

  going back to the save point right so [TS]

  Leslie a compare this particular so [TS]

  great oh you guys unless there's some [TS]

  snowballs right we're going kids lots of [TS]

  kids posture your adoption it i like to [TS]

  go back for a second because i think one [TS]

  of my favorite things from just a [TS]

  character standpoint is the risk-taking [TS]

  phase because [TS]

  so many people in movies get stuck in [TS]

  weird twilight zone environments and [TS]

  they never investigate what the rules [TS]

  are of their reality but he has to and I [TS]

  really appreciate seeing a kick your [TS]

  character say alright well it's a [TS]

  basically has a checklist [TS]

  well what happens if I die okay what [TS]

  happens if i stay up all night [TS]

  nope alright he's like defining for [TS]

  himself the rules of his world while the [TS]

  same time defining for the character [TS]

  that excuse me [TS]

  defining for the audience what the rules [TS]

  are and i would like more people to do [TS]

  that when they're in crazy nutso world [TS]

  has happened so often in movies i wanted [TS]

  to say about the repeated scenes where [TS]

  we see things sort of change aspect I i [TS]

  think that's that's a huge that says a [TS]

  lot about Bill Murray's acting [TS]

  capability i think he really does a [TS]

  fantastic job in this just some of them [TS]

  are very subtle I mean that as he's you [TS]

  know repeatedly coming in and doing the [TS]

  vermouth and then the world peace thing [TS]

  it's it's just fascinating to me how [TS]

  those those repeated lines he does such [TS]

  a good job of making it clear that he's [TS]

  you know he's just kind of going through [TS]

  the motions of that part because he [TS]

  knows how this part works and and the [TS]

  other thing i want to say about his is [TS]

  acting in this film is a when Phil Marie [TS]

  tries to be emotional [TS]

  he usually doesn't really bad job he [TS]

  usually either seems like he's he's [TS]

  sarcastic or he's just being straight-up [TS]

  psychotic like Scrooge i think is the [TS]

  best example where you know he has a big [TS]

  turnaround at the end of screwed and he [TS]

  seems like he should be locked up [TS]

  yeah once he's been redeemed he seems [TS]

  like you know he's totally manic and [TS]

  he's frightening more than he is you [TS]

  know heartwarming but in this movie he [TS]

  really does i think a really great job [TS]

  of pulling off the emoting he's he does [TS]

  the like even the the kind of ridiculous [TS]

  speeches like that when you stand in the [TS]

  snow you look like an angel that comes [TS]

  off is really real and I was completely [TS]

  unaware before this movie that pit bill [TS]

  murray was actually capable of that even [TS]

  is little to his long declaration of [TS]

  love for reading while she's asleep i [TS]

  think that works like gangbusters [TS]

  yeah so although i keep saying to myself [TS]

  oh if only were not and even tell that [TS]

  he was talking about it [TS]

  don't I really don't like her I think [TS]

  it's a testament to this movie how much [TS]

  i love this movie that I i love it even [TS]

  though Andy McDowell is the is the the [TS]

  romantic lead here because i don't like [TS]

  her I don't I don't I don't I do does [TS]

  say repeatedly series mean maybe it's [TS]

  the Heidi to effect and the reason the [TS]

  hands up liking her so much is simply [TS]

  because he spends all that time with her [TS]

  and just gets used to it like everybody [TS]

  else in town maybe she reminds him of [TS]

  hiding his favorite think it's possible [TS]

  that doesn't make sense [TS]

  she's a handwriting remind him of [TS]

  everything at that point mm you know I i [TS]

  do think this is the perfect moon match [TS]

  of a character to an actor in bill [TS]

  murray in anyway don't know in bill [TS]

  murray that that you want the the fact [TS]

  that it's the cynical weatherman and [TS]

  that he starts off in a place where he's [TS]

  not he's not a horrible human being but [TS]

  he's not in a good place his priorities [TS]

  are all screwed up [TS]

  he doesn't know what he wants he's [TS]

  unhappy and uh and then ya see if you're [TS]

  totally right hehe takes this he takes [TS]

  this journey and it was really [TS]

  well-suited to what what Bill Murray's [TS]

  good at and then when he gets them the [TS]

  moment where you where he's finally [TS]

  perfected this day and show some genuine [TS]

  emotion that isn't you know anchor or [TS]

  mania that that uh that it is it's it [TS]

  comes across well i agree and he doesn't [TS]

  become an angel he still recognizably [TS]

  Bill Murray [TS]

  yeah like I if you walked in saw [TS]

  somebody playing the piano like that [TS]

  with those sunglasses back i don't i [TS]

  thought that that last day that's when [TS]

  the other things that always bugged me [TS]

  about the last days that he still kind [TS]

  of an arrogant jerk and he had more [TS]

  crazy night last at last seriously he [TS]

  kept getting better and better and like [TS]

  a nicer guy and everything else in the [TS]

  last days kinda like he's very smug and [TS]

  I always bugged me so here's another [TS]

  theory that I have which is the it's not [TS]

  about the perfect day right [TS]

  it's about getting the perfect ending to [TS]

  the perfect day and he reaches the point [TS]

  where he's he is there with read at the [TS]

  end and is not putting like putting the [TS]

  moves on her [TS]

  he's happy to be there with her [TS]

  and it has resigned that he's gonna [TS]

  reset and he's gonna lose everything I [TS]

  if I've got my theory for why it moves [TS]

  to februari third it's that which is [TS]

  that's that's what gets him over the [TS]

  edge is that in the end he's not doing [TS]

  anything in that last moment with her [TS]

  that is that is any of his game playing [TS]

  but from before or particularly selfish [TS]

  he sort of like he's content and [TS]

  in-the-moment yeah he's happy to spend [TS]

  that time with her he reaches the be [TS]

  here now sort of philosophy that we get [TS]

  the ramdev philosophy which my dad [TS]

  always tells me he finally gets to that [TS]

  point where he's not wishing it was a [TS]

  different day he is comfortable where he [TS]

  is and you know its enlightenment in a [TS]

  way so he moves on however throughout [TS]

  none of this does he ever eat the [TS]

  chocolates on the nightstand [TS]

  what kind of monster is he haha i assume [TS]

  that he's had the you know the the giant [TS]

  the giant brunch or lunch at the diner [TS]

  every day [TS]

  those are probably fresh chocolates on [TS]

  his nightstand each night he's probably [TS]

  in the date the morning chocolates and [TS]

  the maid is coming and put our table [TS]

  doesn't eat the chocolates immediately [TS]

  when walking in the room I think he's [TS]

  had those chocolates thousands of time [TS]

  beer propane-burning yeah he's a little [TS]

  liars Jocelyn's he's eating them a [TS]

  thousand times he's pooped about a [TS]

  thousand yeah i know not if he eats them [TS]

  at the end of the day might actually end [TS]

  up pooping at all for 10,000 years it's [TS]

  possible that there is going to be [TS]

  unpinned and then morning before this [TS]

  for me [TS]

  yeah poor read almost his alcoholism not [TS]

  having warm water for that entire time [TS]

  yeah follow through on the ram dass note [TS]

  i really like the idea this is the story [TS]

  of him learning to live in the moment [TS]

  when he's been forced to live [TS]

  essentially in one moment forever [TS]

  mmhmm yeah but he ultimately makes his [TS]

  peace with it and that's what gets him [TS]

  out of it yeah i think so very very [TS]

  Buddhist what what yeah absolutely [TS]

  what do you think about so one of the [TS]

  obviously the philosophical implications [TS]

  here are fascinating what do you think [TS]

  about the choice to have no clear [TS]

  mechanism for him getting in or out of [TS]

  this I i love it but I I'm just curious [TS]

  that we never there's never an [TS]

  explanation in this movie it's kind of [TS]

  refreshing to me but there's no we all [TS]

  just get to make it up i watch this with [TS]

  Stephen who had never seen this movie [TS]

  for and the the one thing that he said [TS]

  when the movie ended he threw his hands [TS]

  in the air innocent us he was not sure [TS]

  that he could handle not knowing where [TS]

  to me that the questions never even [TS]

  occurred to me maybe it did the first [TS]

  time I saw and I just forgot about that [TS]

  but i like not knowing that means it's [TS]

  not just why did this day get repeated [TS]

  that's why did the universe or fate or [TS]

  whatever pick this particular porsche [TS]

  love for this torturous Redemption does [TS]

  this happen to everybody at some point [TS]

  in their life or is it just this guy for [TS]

  some reason and because you don't know [TS]

  why it started you get to make up for [TS]

  yourself why it ended with i think makes [TS]

  the end of the movie much more [TS]

  interesting [TS]

  yeah yeah i mean it would to me it would [TS]

  ruin the whole movie for someone to say [TS]

  this is exactly what happened why he got [TS]

  out of it because if you set that up it [TS]

  serve takes all the mystery out of it in [TS]

  android i I'm like Jason glad that they [TS]

  never say a thing about it it would make [TS]

  it mechanical and I feel like the the [TS]

  beauty of this movie is that it really [TS]

  flows well i think it works really well [TS]

  without it i think it could work with it [TS]

  the movie edge of tomorrow which [TS]

  recently came out the tom cruise movie [TS]

  with this exact plot was actually really [TS]

  good and it does have an explanation for [TS]

  it but it but that was the worst part of [TS]

  the whole movie I thought huh [TS]

  explanation was the worst part of the [TS]

  source code is a similar kind of theme [TS]

  and I enjoyed that movie too [TS]

  oh yeah me too there's a great novel i'm [TS]

  going to mention it i think i put my [TS]

  plug it when we did the holiday ball [TS]

  episode 2 called replay by a guy named [TS]

  Ken Grimwood and it's about somebody who [TS]

  gets thrown back in time like 30 years [TS]

  in his life and lives it over again and [TS]

  gets to the same moment and then gets [TS]

  thrown back in time like 28 years in his [TS]

  life so weak his cycle keeps getting [TS]

  closer but he's reliving his chunk of [TS]

  his life over and over again and have [TS]

  and it's from like nineteen ninety or [TS]

  personally predates 19 or meet the [TS]

  ladies it predates this movie but it's [TS]

  similar kind of themes except there [TS]

  you've got a much longer time scale and [TS]

  so you can you can see sort of like how [TS]

  your decisions play out over time rather [TS]

  than here [TS]

  Bill Murray has no I mean he's he's [TS]

  trapped here there's nothing he can do [TS]

  that has any lasting impact which is a [TS]

  little bit different but I love [TS]

  I love having that that approach and I [TS]

  do love that that is completely open to [TS]

  interpretation is very clear that he he [TS]

  sets on this journey of self-improvement [TS]

  and the end he gets out of it so you [TS]

  know i don't i don't know I maybe [TS]

  everybody in this world lives through [TS]

  that right on i think that's enough even [TS]

  though our protagonist is an infinite [TS]

  stalker [TS]

  this isn't romantic fantasy well and in [TS]

  this unit area that mean you can't leave [TS]

  so he stalks everybody in town once you [TS]

  know exactly where everyone is [TS]

  yeah i think that if I think I don't [TS]

  think he starts out as a stalker I think [TS]

  he developed into a stalker because he's [TS]

  been on this day yes I was in dreams [TS]

  yeah we go stalk that guy down with your [TS]

  story right so I'm gonna hang out with [TS]

  this guide for the next year you know [TS]

  everything about him and tell you bored [TS]

  with him so I think it's kind of a [TS]

  developed stockers yeah he probably [TS]

  rummages through everyone's house where [TS]

  they're not home right now he had enough [TS]

  time to he probably did and you know [TS]

  that's one of the things that about this [TS]

  movie watching it [TS]

  this is the first time I've seen it in [TS]

  years and I I I didn't feel as warm and [TS]

  fuzzy about it as I did the way back [TS]

  then and I keep coming back to mi older [TS]

  and wiser now or am I just words i'm [TS]

  just looking through it through more [TS]

  cynical eyes or was it or you know I [TS]

  just do I just don't know but it is the [TS]

  I do see such darkness in the character [TS]

  that i almost have trouble coming to the [TS]

  end of the movie when he's redeemed and [TS]

  and a a good guy again is it helps to [TS]

  think about you think about it on on the [TS]

  scale [TS]

  I mean throughout somebody's life you [TS]

  know safe 50 or 60 years that person is [TS]

  not necessarily the same person that [TS]

  they were from when they were young you [TS]

  know maybe they did something terrible [TS]

  in your twenties and then you know [TS]

  redeem themself i don't think i would [TS]

  necessarily judge a 65 year old person [TS]

  on what they were doing when they were [TS]

  in their twenties in this case is dark [TS]

  period could be three and a half [TS]

  thousand years from the end of the movie [TS]

  where he gets his Redemption so for me [TS]

  I'm able to sort of mitigate it in that [TS]

  way [TS]

  yeah he's certainly burn this town down [TS]

  a few times murdering everybody sure and [TS]

  some somebody in the chat room is asking [TS]

  about the boundaries of the magical zone [TS]

  i had actually one of the brilliant [TS]

  things in here is its implied that [TS]

  because of the blizzard that hit just [TS]

  out of sight outside of town and cut off [TS]

  all the long-distance lines and all of [TS]

  those things that essentially [TS]

  punxsutawney is in a bubble and it's cut [TS]

  off by the weather from the outside [TS]

  world but it has the net effect of it [TS]

  being that he can't leave town [TS]

  he is trapped in this time bubble for [TS]

  all eternity essentially Whelan [TS]

  yeah in fact even say during the movie [TS]

  that the blizzards basically shutting [TS]

  off all everything from the outside [TS]

  world but it misses the talent [TS]

  completely completely yea even [TS]

  communications you know he can't get a [TS]

  long-distance line which is watching at [TS]

  this time made me giggle at things [TS]

  different [TS]

  this could have been a very very [TS]

  different movie had his head the day [TS]

  changed februari third right after one [TS]

  of his killing spree de mi yeah I [TS]

  thought of that every time for his death [TS]

  right i mean that boy he was willing to [TS]

  die because you need to be out of there [TS]

  but we've been like up and then it was [TS]

  the next day [TS]

  oh well we'll never know why he did that [TS]

  it's possible that there are 10,000 [TS]

  years worth of alternate realities [TS]

  spawned by each of those days [TS]

  very nice I anybody have any words for [TS]

  uh for Stephen Tobolowsky as Ned Ryerson [TS]

  every this is my kids favorite thing in [TS]

  the entire movie is when he said this [TS]

  Ned and punches punches Stephen [TS]

  Tobolowsky in the face it in riga so am [TS]

  i right am i right all right [TS]

  am I right or am i right right i think [TS]

  it was probably a bad idea for Stephen [TS]

  Tobolowsky to be so great in this [TS]

  because i'm certain that for the rest of [TS]

  his life [TS]

  this is how people come up to him and [TS]

  greet him right oh yeah I know any he's [TS]

  been in hundreds of films and this is [TS]

  this is you know that what you're known [TS]

  for I'm a crybaby does that mean the [TS]

  other an actor to have a role that's so [TS]

  iconic that people come up to you and [TS]

  talk about it all the time when they [TS]

  talk about yes but specifically a [TS]

  character who runs up to people and the [TS]

  costs them [TS]

  people are running up to him and costing [TS]

  him [TS]

  yes because I've been playing a [TS]

  memorable polite character it's just [TS]

  great it's just a great little bit i [TS]

  love i love that bryerson it's just it's [TS]

  just crazy and hey watch out for that [TS]

  first step it's a doozy your other [TS]

  favorite one is one that they don't [TS]

  repeat it nearly as many times but it's [TS]

  a guy on the stairs at the beginning [TS]

  haseeno says off to see the groundhog [TS]

  and that actor actually was a [TS]

  short-lived sitcom called Herman's head [TS]

  that yes I remember him from alongside [TS]

  the voice of lisa simpson and and he had [TS]

  area Molly Kagan we all know the full [TS]

  cast and jelly time it's really this is [TS]

  handling guys so she's also in down [TS]

  periscope anyway but anyway so that at [TS]

  the last time where Bill Murray gives [TS]

  that the little speech about it about it [TS]

  and he just liked the look on his face [TS]

  as Bill Murray walks away down the [TS]

  stairs like yeah he's straightened [TS]

  himself up and use has this big grand [TS]

  and that's where I first really start [TS]

  seeing that bill murray's making a [TS]

  positive or has the ability to make a [TS]

  real positive impact on the town [TS]

  it's even just just little things like [TS]

  this it works yeah I like baby yeah he [TS]

  created the he quotes the French poetry [TS]

  at him and that's what is no man-made [TS]

  that is yeah well that this is the kind [TS]

  of thing where you look at the cast list [TS]

  minutes and he's man in hallway and you [TS]

  think well that is just like a throwaway [TS]

  it's like nope he's got a lot of stuff [TS]

  to do is manage hallway because we see [TS]

  that seemed you know good eight or nine [TS]

  times amazing i want to throw in a few [TS]

  good words for Gus and Ralph yes do come [TS]

  and who I remember from I can't even say [TS]

  he was well he was in spaceballs right [TS]

  ya think he's one of the dark helmet [TS]

  students and he's an even and and die [TS]

  hard and a lot of other things you know [TS]

  over the over the years Rickman and and [TS]

  the other guy who I recognized but I [TS]

  can't think of what it all was in and I [TS]

  love those guys those are the guys that [TS]

  there's the classic line like what would [TS]

  you guys do if every day was the same is [TS]

  via the last and has no meaning to [TS]

  commit to the like [TS]

  pretty much sums it up for me yeah yes [TS]

  oh that's the most heartbreaking moment [TS]

  my feelings for me [TS]

  I mean that you know i'm i'm too drunk [TS]

  to drive my car and I'll Drive you and [TS]

  then and then at if I wanted to run into [TS]

  you in 24 mailboxes I couldn't [TS]

  clarifications people don't matta [TS]

  district do command is prison guard in [TS]

  space ball haha yeah that's it there you [TS]

  go [TS]

  I just remember him with wacky makeup [TS]

  and stuff and ya know whatever get [TS]

  advantage about something like that how [TS]

  now we didn't we drop the Herman's head [TS]

  reference we're good for the rest of the [TS]

  episode anyway I love those guys they're [TS]

  not they're not around much after that [TS]

  but i I just I i love that he spend that [TS]

  time with them in the bowling alley and [TS]

  that they have the it there's this [TS]

  commentary on how you know they're [TS]

  living life as if it was in that loop [TS]

  where it's always the same sort of thing [TS]

  I also like how they suddenly even [TS]

  through the drunken stupor get concerned [TS]

  about them dying as the car chases [TS]

  killing you oh yeah don't drive on the [TS]

  railroad tracks [TS]

  that's what I happen to agree with my [TS]

  favorite part of that is don't mix beer [TS]

  and wine ever headline cracks me up [TS]

  everytime let me ask you something about [TS]

  the final day [TS]

  alright do you think he robbed the bank [TS]

  on that day know where did you get those [TS]

  wrestlemania tickets [TS]

  mm you might still have a credit card [TS]

  yeah WrestleMania is coming out of you [TS]

  forward that how did you forward a [TS]

  thousand-dollar piano lesson on every [TS]

  water cash remember because he gave it [TS]

  he gave it to the old guy early in the [TS]

  movie so he had massive out Cashin as [TS]

  well this isn't 1910 the ATM machine [TS]

  still work [TS]

  yeah no I don't want the lines of my [TS]

  wives going but that's when the blizzard [TS]

  hits before the blizzard there's there's [TS]

  there's no problem and I thought about [TS]

  the piano lessons was that you know the [TS]

  first day he goes he offers a thousand [TS]

  dollars if it was me the next day i [TS]

  would offer 800 ya see how that might [TS]

  just keep pulling it down till you get [TS]

  to the point where you know she's gonna [TS]

  say no and then that's your baseline [TS]

  just me piano lessons on the last day [TS]

  but he's no he has to take some other [TS]

  veggies are proud of your right you're [TS]

  right that that poor piano student is so [TS]

  devastated every to Bhutan ceremoniously [TS]

  from her lesson [TS]

  hey you're right you're right i i i [TS]

  don't know i don't think he is allowed [TS]

  to [TS]

  rob the bank and get to the next day I [TS]

  think he I think it's a good that's a [TS]

  very good question now but I don't think [TS]

  it's allowed i feel good almost be a [TS]

  waste of time because he has to sit [TS]

  there for a while watching them doing [TS]

  that and he's got a lot of other stuff [TS]

  to do you have it timed out so he [TS]

  doesn't have to spend that time like you [TS]

  played the level often enough you know [TS]

  when the fireballs coming he's got that [TS]

  sweet sweet weatherman money he doesn't [TS]

  need around the Pacific he needs to be [TS]

  done this game [TS]

  yeah he's doing fine so something I [TS]

  noticed this time that I maybe I didn't [TS]

  notice before but i didn't pay as close [TS]

  attention to is how good the direction [TS]

  and the cinematography and editing our I [TS]

  mean there are some scenes here that are [TS]

  just so well done there's that super [TS]

  close up shot of the clock numbers [TS]

  turning over which i think is really [TS]

  messing in the whole movie when it's [TS]

  just you know that when they actually [TS]

  built a model that that they could get [TS]

  real for a video of the clock radio as [TS]

  that as the time changes from 559 26 and [TS]

  it's that's a great shot [TS]

  I love the starkness of the scene where [TS]

  where Phil is reciting the DJ speech in [TS]

  bed on one of his dark days he looks so [TS]

  motherly haunted as he saying it's cold [TS]

  out there every day no yeah no good and [TS]

  the the cameras kind of pulling back [TS]

  from is though it's like we're repelled [TS]

  by his his sadness and then I never [TS]

  noticed this before but he he goes [TS]

  through the whole sequence where the old [TS]

  guys you know dying repeatedly from old [TS]

  age and there's the scenery is trying to [TS]

  resuscitate them out in the snow and it [TS]

  the camera pulls back after he tries to [TS]

  breathe you know some breath into him [TS]

  and you can see the steam from that [TS]

  breath kind of escaping on the breeze up [TS]

  into the air and that is just such [TS]

  genius cinematography right there and [TS]

  and of course there isn't a you know a [TS]

  subsequent breath as he kinda looks [TS]

  around and looks up at the sky as though [TS]

  you know why did this happen but it's so [TS]

  lovely [TS]

  well that and at that moment that whole [TS]

  sequence where he's trying to take care [TS]

  of the of the the old man is wonderful [TS]

  because that's the moment where he [TS]

  realizes that he's severely limited in [TS]

  what he can do like there's some things [TS]

  you can't change [TS]

  he's not a god at that point that's [TS]

  that's when he knows yeah it is a little [TS]

  weird that he keeps calling him father [TS]

  dad and I kind of wished you would've [TS]

  gotten the guys name at some point I [TS]

  don't know what does unless a mock [TS]

  anything yeah yeah maybe yeah I'll i do [TS]

  like the scene where he just keeps [TS]

  feeding him soup but I think that's [TS]

  going down there get far down there at [TS]

  the bottom up but yeah that's so good [TS]

  what else should we talk about about [TS]

  this i like I said my notes are sort of [TS]

  like a they just keep repeating things [TS]

  over and over again highlighting my [TS]

  notes to and and like often happens with [TS]

  these movies that we watch that i love [TS]

  all i do is end up just writing down all [TS]

  the quotes that I know and love anyway [TS]

  just because I like them [TS]

  I'm betting he's gonna swerve first [TS]

  oh my favorite one of my favorites is [TS]

  the have killed myself so many times I [TS]

  don't even exist anymore house i think [TS]

  that that is such a plaintiff the moment [TS]

  it is so bleak that it's which is the [TS]

  one line captures the mood of all of [TS]

  those scenes right there that's the [TS]

  annihilation of the self that is like he [TS]

  has to basically except that he's [TS]

  nothing and then he can start to put [TS]

  something together but it [TS]

  yeah i mean this this is I I think [TS]

  that's a really great example of a disc [TS]

  or one of the others core while of this [TS]

  movie is that it is both meaningful and [TS]

  funny at the same time which is really [TS]

  really hard to do and this movie does it [TS]

  like you know Bill Murray [TS]

  oh it's wacky Bill Murray and it is a [TS]

  frilly funny movie and yet at the same [TS]

  time it gets really dark and it is it's [TS]

  meaningful it's about somebody trying to [TS]

  search for meaning and like being given [TS]

  this opportunity that is a blessing and [TS]

  a curse to understand like why you know [TS]

  who people are and appreciating other [TS]

  people and and that's that you know [TS]

  that's a perfect example of its a very [TS]

  funny moment at the same time it is a [TS]

  super meaningful moment there are [TS]

  moments when it manages really a good [TS]

  heartbreak to like that after his big [TS]

  heartfelt speech to read in bed that [TS]

  first time when you hear that click of [TS]

  the clock turning over and then freakin [TS]

  bono is back [TS]

  it's like being stabbed in the gut but [TS]

  you're thinking how could he did it [TS]

  this was all about help help ok and you [TS]

  know character good character [TS]

  development is something that is [TS]

  important for for excellent films but i [TS]

  think very [TS]

  few films hang everything on the [TS]

  development of a character the way that [TS]

  this movie does that's that's really the [TS]

  whole point of all of it and this could [TS]

  have been Jim Belushi and michael caine [TS]

  and mr. destiny and why you got a chip [TS]

  on his podcast by raising Jim Belushi's [TS]

  that after my repeated grease two [TS]

  references you get mad at him nice I [TS]

  question the ice sculpting lessons I [TS]

  think that was probably a waste of time [TS]

  that seems a little odd doesn't it mhm [TS]

  and education is never a waste Jason if [TS]

  you got that much time [TS]

  what a cool thing to be able to there's [TS]

  a chainsaw and their blocks of ice why [TS]

  not pay bribe the guy [TS]

  not pay bribe the guy [TS]

  they teach you how to do some my [TS]

  sculpting he's gonna be sculpted nice [TS]

  today anyway and Bill Murray's he's [TS]

  actually using the chainsaw at one point [TS]

  which is pre-cut pretty good but she [TS]

  just kind of cutting cutting slots into [TS]

  the right they still a change huh [TS]

  and they went back to that like three or [TS]

  four times during the movie right [TS]

  oh we're back to the high school team [TS]

  again yeah that's a weird one but the [TS]

  thing is that with all these new skills [TS]

  he's got you know that you know on [TS]

  subsequent days nowadays out of the time [TS]

  loop he's still going to be kind of a [TS]

  stud mean he's a guy who can i sculpt [TS]

  and play the piano and you can sculpt [TS]

  one head all right yeah let's just [TS]

  sculpt you know you're usually too many [TS]

  teenage on the Eagle right all right [TS]

  yeah maybe skills know maybe boy talk [TS]

  about hell you're trapped listening to [TS]

  the morning zoo every morning and seeing [TS]

  terrible jokes they're ready badge but [TS]

  that's what it's like listening to a [TS]

  morning zoo in real life though the [TS]

  rotating new jokes you never had the [TS]

  best elementary school and high school [TS]

  they they had the morning zoo on and i [TS]

  think i have no escape [TS]

  okay campers rise and shine well that's [TS]

  what that's what makes that morning [TS]

  scene so have such impact is that [TS]

  everybody's ever listen to morning radio [TS]

  is like yes this is exactly how it goes [TS]

  right yeah no I have a theory that I [TS]

  first noticed for the first time in this [TS]

  one on his last day something changes [TS]

  before the end because its nose when he [TS]

  and Anna MacDonald are outside and we [TS]

  had never seen that before which I never [TS]

  noticed in the past but this time i [TS]

  noticed Bill Murray's reaction to it [TS]

  when it starts snowing [TS]

  he looks visibly surprise like this is [TS]

  something different so I i think that [TS]

  maybe at that point he somehow knew or [TS]

  suspected at least that it was it was [TS]

  finally over [TS]

  it's because there's a butterfly in [TS]

  South America also having the same day [TS]

  over and over again [TS]

  it finally figured out what to do that's [TS]

  a chaos theory joka its rightful is it [TS]

  thanks for explaining that to me that's [TS]

  why is your funny fashion culture is [TS]

  implanted them all [TS]

  yeah male Andie McDowell we should do a [TS]

  movie together okay [TS]

  yes they should because and you [TS]

  complained about me talking about [TS]

  involution all right some people got to [TS]

  do their favorite lines i'm throwing [TS]

  mine okay do a tie for me it's a tie [TS]

  between I don't know where you're headed [TS]

  but can you call in sick and what do you [TS]

  say what do you say you little brat you [TS]

  have never thank me tomorrow i love that [TS]

  yeah I could just runs away with this [TS]

  big smile on his face every single time [TS]

  i'll see you tomorrow maybe maybe 51 out [TS]

  of 10 times I just let you die [TS]

  yeah actually my all-time favorite line [TS]

  is yes but my father was a piano mover [TS]

  we don't know why I had an ex-boyfriend [TS]

  for you that line all the time and it's [TS]

  just cracked me up ever since [TS]

  yeah I'm with jason i think my favorite [TS]

  is well no probably not now [TS]

  yeah it's very light you could still be [TS]

  a lot that is great my favorite line [TS]

  isn't one of the funny ones i just it [TS]

  always gets me when he says not today [TS]

  like this is my day [TS]

  oh that's right when he started dying [TS]

  that's why I just died yeah oh yeah [TS]

  that's a great line very possessive of [TS]

  his day more than of his town I think [TS]

  well what if there is no tomorrow there [TS]

  wasn't one today [TS]

  don't you worry about cholesterol I [TS]

  don't worry about anything anything [TS]

  that's what makes me so special that [TS]

  scene isn't simultaneously my most and [TS]

  least favorite scene of the movie [TS]

  because that spread of food there and [TS]

  just off of all of the things that he is [TS]

  able to do in the movie i think just [TS]

  being able to eat all of that stuff is [TS]

  the one thing that I'm the most jealous [TS]

  of and I don't like what that says about [TS]

  myself but it's true i mean you totally [TS]

  do that if there's absolutely no [TS]

  consequences to anything [TS]

  then why wouldn't you do it because you [TS]

  know nothing's going to change that mean [TS]

  that that's what the whole movies about [TS]

  is you can literally do anything it [TS]

  doesn't it doesn't matter [TS]

  I going out jump off the clock tower [TS]

  doesn't matter [TS]

  yeah i mean watching watching this thing [TS]

  it makes me you know wistful about we're [TS]

  wishing i had more time to learn the [TS]

  piano don't learn to draw all that yeah [TS]

  you know he has that he has this [TS]

  he's at the he gets past the I want to [TS]

  get something from these other people [TS]

  stop moments and he gets into the I want [TS]

  to learn all this stuff and do all of [TS]

  this really cool stuff [TS]

  and that's that's the that's the [TS]

  bittersweet thing for me it's not so [TS]

  much the the the spread of pastry but [TS]

  the the stuff that he gets to do that i [TS]

  will never have all the time that I want [TS]

  to do that's one of my favorite parts of [TS]

  the movie is that there's this [TS]

  underlying theme of what would you do if [TS]

  you had all the time in the world and [TS]

  you know and he was never gonna run out [TS]

  right [TS]

  learn to be an ice sculptor but there's [TS]

  a limited number of things in the town [TS]

  for him to use as resources and it's not [TS]

  as turn that exists so you can only you [TS]

  can only read the books that are in the [TS]

  library or bookstore [TS]

  yeah I imagine he's read every book at [TS]

  the library there's only one diner and [TS]

  they serve exactly the same meal in [TS]

  exactly the same way every single day [TS]

  yeah you probably think of those [TS]

  pastries pretty quick but we know he did [TS]

  not learn to become a great chef on this [TS]

  day actually one of the things that's [TS]

  funny is that if that if if the diner [TS]

  literally has the same food every day [TS]

  you could be like I want that pastry on [TS]

  the left because that's a good that's [TS]

  the goodness a good one you really have [TS]

  literally no that that was the good [TS]

  pastry but even if you order something [TS]

  off the menu it's going to be made [TS]

  exactly the same way unless you run back [TS]

  into the kitchen and then you know throw [TS]

  some salt in there so but i do like the [TS]

  idea that you might have a favorite [TS]

  donut my tree house that's a good donut [TS]

  you gotta get that don't but you gotta [TS]

  get it right away because then this [TS]

  other guys gonna order that donut if you [TS]

  don't get in line right away so you got [TS]

  to get that done before he does like [TS]

  that the perfect donut [TS]

  i goddamn orchestrated nobody ever [TS]

  orders the pastry know it's gonna be [TS]

  there at the end of the day they'll give [TS]

  it to give it to you at the end of the [TS]

  day to come in [TS]

  that's a certain thing they just give it [TS]

  to you that that is the meaning of this [TS]

  movie the true meaning of this movie is [TS]

  if you understand all the food at the [TS]

  diner then you can finally be at peace [TS]

  you're right he's a total mess on [TS]

  februari third disney and probably for [TS]

  weeks or months afterwards he's he's a [TS]

  mess [TS]

  what people are saying things I don't [TS]

  expect and don't understand he's [TS]

  probably gonna get hit by a car because [TS]

  not even used to looking both ways when [TS]

  crossing the center because we know [TS]

  what's wrong with others are that's why [TS]

  he needs reader reader needs to take [TS]

  care of him [TS]

  yeah she strikes me as the kind of [TS]

  person who would be ok with that with [TS]

  her sweet vermouth on the ice just fire [TS]

  some rice rhinestones will be happy that [TS]

  this [TS]

  this conversation we've we've spent a [TS]

  lot of time you know dissecting and [TS]

  cutting way deep into this and finding [TS]

  all the darkest resource recesses of [TS]

  this movie [TS]

  welcome to the uncomfortable tip all [TS]

  about dark recesses here we've poked all [TS]

  kinds of holes in the redemption arc and [TS]

  still we love the redemption arc well [TS]

  it's true it feels true true to itself [TS]

  and even though [TS]

  well I think we can ask questions about [TS]

  it because there's a lot of this that is [TS]

  open to interpretation but i think it at [TS]

  its core it is true it is true to itself [TS]

  it is you can overlook because it's so [TS]

  kind of hazy and weird you can overlook [TS]

  some of the the specifics and just you [TS]

  know i I don't I can't watch this movie [TS]

  without feeling like it is it is earned [TS]

  the the journey that takes I think the [TS]

  thing for me is that every single person [TS]

  has a certain amount of darkness and [TS]

  them and if you found yourself in this [TS]

  situation you know maybe not you [TS]

  specifically but i think a lot of people [TS]

  would go through and do some of the same [TS]

  awful things that he finds himself going [TS]

  through have systemic time if not you [TS]

  know all i know is sometimes when I'm [TS]

  dreaming i realize i'm dreaming and in [TS]

  the lucid dream state when I realized oh [TS]

  I can do anything and the world is [TS]

  completely controlled by my imagination [TS]

  is a good thing to do monte sometimes [TS]

  you do nice things for people sometimes [TS]

  sir [TS]

  hey why not clean not at all dirty [TS]

  things i do I it's a terrible thing that [TS]

  he does early in the movie but i do [TS]

  enjoy his strategy with Nancy just [TS]

  because it's the it is that question of [TS]

  like well this is something you can do [TS]

  because there are no consequences when [TS]

  he just he just asked the questions and [TS]

  he's like very businesslike just what I [TS]

  no no just don't just tell me and then [TS]

  you flip it and and he's acting like he [TS]

  knows her and and he goes from there and [TS]

  I that's really amusing even though [TS]

  again it is [TS]

  skeezy I do find it highly unlikely that [TS]

  she would believe that she shared a 12th [TS]

  grade class with Bill Murray the Dino [TS]

  but she's just gonna lie [TS]

  don't she looks about a third his age I [TS]

  but I'm i don't believe i don't remember [TS]

  most of the people that I was in high [TS]

  school with somebody could absolutely do [TS]

  that to me and I would just buy it so [TS]

  but they wouldn't they wouldn't look [TS]

  three times your age more than little [TS]

  bit you think maybe if you know all of [TS]

  this is our way it's like that there's [TS]

  that study where they had the the person [TS]

  who's behind a receptionist desk and [TS]

  when you weren't looking [TS]

  they they dropped under the desk and a [TS]

  different person popped up and they [TS]

  continue the conversation and most [TS]

  people had no idea that the person was [TS]

  different because their brain just [TS]

  wasn't even tracking who this person was [TS]

  they weren't paying attention to it [TS]

  I feel like it's a little bit like that [TS]

  it's like if you've got these key facts [TS]

  that unlocks the key and you're like all [TS]

  right well I guess how how else could [TS]

  you know you must have been there you [TS]

  know you you haven't aged well i guess [TS]

  but you must have been in my class so I [TS]

  i took that on i'm right and well that's [TS]

  not that that's not that than the nicest [TS]

  way to pick somebody up [TS]

  I don't really feel that that one is [TS]

  necessarily to terrible because I mean [TS]

  she [TS]

  it's not like he does anything too weird [TS]

  he just says he knows some things and [TS]

  she completely goes along with it and is [TS]

  you know apparently has a good time so [TS]

  it does seem to take only one shot with [TS]

  Nancy so perhaps she's not announced [TS]

  never sees more accessible [TS]

  she's she's she's comfortable in her own [TS]

  sexuality and good liquor [TS]

  yeah he just needs to he just needs to [TS]

  get the right icebreaker you gotta [TS]

  wonder how many tonight's it took him to [TS]

  get the chipmunk noises their pic you [TS]

  know I you know I wonder if you needed [TS]

  to bother with that I mean she just [TS]

  seems like she's she's pretty cool girl [TS]

  so maybe he could have just had some [TS]

  honest fun with her but he wasn't at [TS]

  that point in his journey at the [TS]

  beginning so maybe he did later maybe [TS]

  maybe he tried the the real approach [TS]

  later on i like to think maybe Nancy [TS]

  maybe nancy was like a little bit of a [TS]

  vacation for him every now and then he'd [TS]

  be like hi then I've been doing a lot of [TS]

  sculpting and piano lessons and reading [TS]

  books at the library i'm going to take a [TS]

  Nancy day now just hang out with Nancy a [TS]

  little bit yeah tonight's of fat guy at [TS]

  the hotel kind of pay tonight it's [TS]

  jeopardy with the old people and [TS]

  throwing cards and a hat I'm feeling [TS]

  down I like the fact that he takes the [TS]

  time to push the toast in before he [TS]

  drops the toaster [TS]

  yeah that's how you turn the electricity [TS]

  that is coming as a carpenter august if [TS]

  you don't do that the heating coils [TS]

  aren't getting power [TS]

  yeah but it's still an electrical the [TS]

  appliance dropped in the middle of water [TS]

  you gotta you gotta you know training [TS]

  yeah something like that the toast is [TS]

  very important Steve it's very important [TS]

  to now the I think you're curious as to [TS]

  what will happen if he you know the [TS]

  toast is made well he's being [TS]

  electrocuted course I've never texted [TS]

  checking out the next hundred days [TS]

  before that this and this is the best [TS]

  way to do it you have determined the [TS]

  first time you did it without the [TS]

  toasted didn't work so then he just [TS]

  knows this time that you have the toast [TS]

  fell out and it blocked the toaster from [TS]

  you know landing in the bathtub and when [TS]

  he remind someone in the chatroom said [TS]

  that toast is the most conductive what [TS]

  those bridges the gap yeah it's nothin [TS]

  that's exactly it i think they figured [TS]

  it out the chatroom should have their [TS]

  own podcast should the involving toast [TS]

  I I do i do feel to cut circle back to [TS]

  where we started as unlikely as it is i [TS]

  do think this is actually one uh I think [TS]

  this is a monumental film i think this [TS]

  is one of my favorites and I I think you [TS]

  could argue can make a strong argument [TS]

  that is it is in the you know you can [TS]

  pick a number but it is among the three [TS]

  great films because it is not only funny [TS]

  but it is meaningful and it is of it is [TS]

  it is itself it is this unique amazing [TS]

  thing and clever [TS]

  yeah and I like a lot of movies like I [TS]

  would I would never say that real genius [TS]

  which is one of my very favorite movies [TS]

  of all time is among the great films [TS]

  that have ever been made but groundhog [TS]

  day I think it is one of the great films [TS]

  that have ever been made i really really [TS]

  do i'm excited about the fact that this [TS]

  is one of the great comedies from my [TS]

  youth that I can actually show the kids [TS]

  oh yeah I haven't done it yet but I mean [TS]

  this is it's a pg-rated film IQs [TS]

  innovated PG is for thematic elements [TS]

  which means probably the segment where [TS]

  he commits suicide repeatedly yeah so [TS]

  you know I there isn't a single thing in [TS]

  here where I have to you know like cough [TS]

  to cover up a word or well there's the [TS]

  suggestions of of of sex and but they're [TS]

  pretty right hand but they are six [TS]

  and rolling around making out kind of [TS]

  stay exactly if you if you are old [TS]

  enough to get what they're about [TS]

  e you're old enough to watch the movie [TS]

  because I younger than that you won't [TS]

  get it don't matter i'm more concerned [TS]

  about the use of the phrase gobblers [TS]

  knob and I am good i have that may know [TS]

  it's too i don't get the final line of [TS]

  the film i just want to say that was the [TS]

  final line [TS]

  well the father it the legislature here [TS]

  that's ripped Ricans we can rent to [TS]

  start at follow-up and I there's a joke [TS]

  in there [TS]

  I don't get it the joke is that he [TS]

  doesn't although he has accepted the [TS]

  city [TS]

  he's not accepted permanence yet let's [TS]

  keep our options open yeah I can tell [TS]

  how does that apply to what's come [TS]

  before it doesn't mean maybe he just [TS]

  realizes how weird is that he just tried [TS]

  to get someone who he's been with for a [TS]

  day to my house of them out places make [TS]

  a meat that maybe I I think it's kind of [TS]

  a joke about about the the fact that he [TS]

  spent 10,000 years in this town and so [TS]

  he doesn't want to fully commit to [TS]

  staying just bizarre [TS]

  I don't know why but I were you're right [TS]

  Steve it's like a joke that's not a joke [TS]

  it's like to live here is great if it [TS]

  ended on let's live here I'd have been [TS]

  happy and and I actually forgotten that [TS]

  there was the follow up there but it's [TS]

  if if you're going to end on a line [TS]

  that's a joke like that you should end [TS]

  on a line that's really applicable to [TS]

  the themes of the movie and to me it's [TS]

  just kinda know I like that he's not [TS]

  willing to commit to the place yet [TS]

  like let's try it out for me bent only [TS]

  been here ten thousand days exactly [TS]

  maybe you'll get the next one we went on [TS]

  the edge [TS]

  well I think he's sold i mean i think to [TS]

  him thanks x become home right and he [TS]

  doesn't want to freak out Rita yeah [TS]

  exactly i just think that he's yes it's [TS]

  home for him now but stepping out for [TS]

  her [TS]

  we're we're you're right it isn't it is [TS]

  kind of weird i think it's funny because [TS]

  it is that undercut of like he's at [TS]

  let's live here rent with you will just [TS]

  try out but just didn't he backs off of [TS]

  but you know a lot of perhaps it's just [TS]

  he's not entirely gone over to the [TS]

  do-gooder lifestyle there's still a [TS]

  little bit of a little bit of the road [TS]

  is ongoing be a terrific the groundhog [TS]

  is great [TS]

  yeah that groundhog is extremely [TS]

  cute yes I've angry don't Drive Angry [TS]

  Drive Angry you doing pretty well for a [TS]

  cock blood yeah everything according to [TS]

  the commentary is seconds after that [TS]

  don't Drive Angry the the groundhog [TS]

  turned around and bit a chunk of the [TS]

  leather gloves he was wearing very [TS]

  excited that the spoon he puts on just [TS]

  the line the second don't Drive Angry [TS]

  don't Drive Angry it's really really [TS]

  good [TS]

  yeah yeah i would say i would put that [TS]

  would say this is probably memories best [TS]

  work [TS]

  yeah oh yeah I mean yeah I mean that's [TS]

  hard to say there's so many good ones i [TS]

  really like obviously like Ghostbusters [TS]

  I really like him quick change em I i [TS]

  really like quick-change actually I [TS]

  think that's one of his best movies but [TS]

  i like you know that what kind of clever [TS]

  you have the crying on the inside kind i [TS]

  guess i like him that I like him in like [TS]

  a min Rushmore but I feel like he's kind [TS]

  of OneNote there [TS]

  yeah yeah that's good darling the broken [TS]

  schlubs a really good note but i mean [TS]

  that's that's like his standard note [TS]

  well it was more revelation when he [TS]

  played in Rushmore he's played in every [TS]

  movie since rush to get yeah like I [TS]

  liked him and steve zissou doing the [TS]

  same thing right well he kind of plays [TS]

  it here too i mean it's it's been his [TS]

  sort of lost in translation [TS]

  Yeah right right it's good it's a good [TS]

  note they were agreed its best movie [TS]

  stripes [TS]

  I like stripes it's gonna be like [TS]

  stripes a lot a good movie [TS]

  I this might be Harold Ramos is best [TS]

  moment too although i still hold out [TS]

  that Caddyshack might be better but [TS]

  Caddyshack does not have the sort of [TS]

  spiritual elevation yeah yeah you really [TS]

  just like him as neurologist [TS]

  yeah his bloated cameo which reminds me [TS]

  so much of the bloated cameo and elf [TS]

  where jon favreau yes as a doctor for a [TS]

  few space is the same it's the it's the [TS]

  doctor cameo it's really impressive to [TS]

  look at this next to caddy shack where [TS]

  Kenny Shaq is [TS]

  barely organized and is just overrun [TS]

  with people improvising and throwing out [TS]

  the actual plot and then look at you [TS]

  look at Groundhog Day which is so [TS]

  tightly plotted and so you can't really [TS]

  very anything that I up and apparently I [TS]

  I because i do think this movie [TS]

  obviously such a great critical success [TS]

  of HS it works and yet apparently there [TS]

  was during the making of this movie a [TS]

  falling-out between Bill Murray and [TS]

  harold ramis and until shortly before [TS]

  harold ramis died they basically didn't [TS]

  speak which is really yeah which is [TS]

  really sad nobody knows nobody seems to [TS]

  know why and I think that happens a lot [TS]

  with things involving Bill Murray nobody [TS]

  in the interview with him on the DVD he [TS]

  has nothing but good things to say about [TS]

  the memory so yeah I i get a set of [TS]

  one-sided night yeah I get the sense [TS]

  that Bill Murray had something that [TS]

  really bugged him we don't know but but [TS]

  I did read that before fairly shortly [TS]

  before when it was clear that Harold [TS]

  Ramis was very ill that they that they [TS]

  spoke and they kind of buried the [TS]

  hatchet which is which is good but that [TS]

  is good it is a shame because that was a [TS]

  collaboration [TS]

  I mean again Ghostbusters one of my very [TS]

  favorites and then this is a you know [TS]

  this is this spectacular movie and and [TS]

  there they both deserve a lot of credit [TS]

  for daz does Danny rubin who who wrote a [TS]

  book called how to write Groundhog Day [TS]

  which tells the story of what he did did [TS]

  the makers of edge of tomorrow read that [TS]

  I do wonder how much of this is really [TS]

  his original script and how much of it [TS]

  is is Ramos well as well in the end of [TS]

  his script is in the book apparently [TS]

  he's really well yeah it's the story of [TS]

  of the screenplay and the process of [TS]

  getting it from from screenplay the [TS]

  screen and how it changed and and all [TS]

  that is is apparently in in the book I [TS]

  haven't read might have to pick the [TS]

  right about yeah i'm intrigued by myself [TS]

  in this interview he talks about how it [TS]

  you know he picked up the script and he [TS]

  did all these things within the way you [TS]

  phrase it is then I rewrote it [TS]

  yeah oh well I get this is the Reuben [TS]

  was involved to a certain degree and [TS]

  that it was it was a conversation that [TS]

  they kept having about it that could be [TS]

  i just wonder how much of his original [TS]

  script actually survived and given his [TS]

  other filmic output you know compared to [TS]

  what Harold rain has produced over his [TS]

  lifetime and [TS]

  astex over how much absolutely agree [TS]

  completely but you know sometimes you [TS]

  catch lightning in a bottle in IE [TS]

  absolutely this there's a really cute [TS]

  groundhog on the cover of how to write [TS]

  ground without i'm sold check out how I [TS]

  can't believe this hasn't been mentioned [TS]

  yet [TS]

  strike up the music the band has begun [TS]

  don't you have a little vain ya poka [TS]

  very nice pick up your partner and join [TS]

  in the fun bow Erica just do that remind [TS]

  you of home [TS]

  the pencil fame this lots of polkas in [TS]

  Wisconsin there are so many focus at [TS]

  this [TS]

  the funny thing is is Steven didn't he'd [TS]

  never heard that song before I he [TS]

  thought it sounded kind of creepy as [TS]

  like you've never heard the Pennsylvania [TS]

  point and it's like okay Terry Francona [TS]

  want right there yeah but i love how we [TS]

  get deeper and deeper into this and the [TS]

  more uncomfortable he gets the the Polka [TS]

  gets this reverb on reverbnation me and [TS]

  creepier and creepier cat that was that [TS]

  was what Stephen and he thought he [TS]

  thought it sounded like a polka being [TS]

  played to the speakers at the Overlook [TS]

  Hotel because employers gasps [TS]

  fundamentally it does you know we [TS]

  actually we used to sing the abbey sing [TS]

  the Pennsylvania polka in elementary [TS]

  school in music class our memories and [TS]

  you weren't even in Pennsylvania [TS]

  nope nope amazing Wisconsin has adopted [TS]

  poka poka is was for Wisconsin it [TS]

  doesn't matter [TS]

  well so Erica and dan you're both [TS]

  Midwestern nurses it strikes me [TS]

  western Pennsylvania my family is from [TS]

  my mom's side of the family is from [TS]

  western Pennsylvania and I've argued in [TS]

  the past that it is more Midwestern an [TS]

  Eastern there are a lot of people who [TS]

  think that eastern Pennsylvania is just [TS]

  an eastern state but but uh regardless [TS]

  of that i mean this movie it is this is [TS]

  a Midwestern town shot in illinois right [TS]

  it it's got the bulk of that that do you [TS]

  guys have any I mean just does this [TS]

  resonate with you because it is it is [TS]

  this little slice of kind of classic [TS]

  Midwestern town yes absolutely [TS]

  I've been to so many church festivals [TS]

  and you know town things like that it [TS]

  that that is true to life you know get [TS]

  the little little diner restaurant with [TS]

  the same people in their everyday and [TS]

  you know the the the line about what [TS]

  would you do if every day was the same [TS]

  and you're stuck in one place and [TS]

  nothing you didn't matter [TS]

  yeah I know what people don't realize [TS]

  that way so welcome to grade school [TS]

  yeah i know i mean i-i I went to high [TS]

  school and grew up later than life [TS]

  outside of Chicago but when I was [TS]

  younger it was this kind of town right [TS]

  where the small town square where [TS]

  everyone knows each other there's like [TS]

  you know a hundred people in your high [TS]

  school and everybody knows everyone [TS]

  else's business [TS]

  yeah it is totally a Midwestern type of [TS]

  film rather than Eastern there's no [TS]

  doubt about it yeah i mean i picked [TS]

  punxsutawney again like I said western [TS]

  Pennsylvania especially it is yeah it is [TS]

  a mixture it is much more Midwestern [TS]

  than you might think or you know right [TS]

  there by the ohio border but this this [TS]

  to me even feels like you know it's [TS]

  fitting that they shot in Illinois [TS]

  because it feels a little more like that [TS]

  than it does like western Pennsylvania [TS]

  but what will oremus for saying that [TS]

  they were actually driving around [TS]

  Chicago we're just looking for sites and [TS]

  stuff and they were pulled through into [TS]

  Woodstock and pulled up into the Town [TS]

  Square to get coffee and they stepped [TS]

  out and they all can look around there [TS]

  like yep [TS]

  huh this is it yeah that looks just like [TS]

  that i can accept with the plaques now [TS]

  tell you now they have examined grand in [TS]

  advertisements corner here was it [TS]

  pennsylvania hotel or something like [TS]

  that [TS]

  yeah yeah the one that the one that [TS]

  ended with allstate at all right do they [TS]

  purposely keep a pot hole right there [TS]

  where Ned Ryerson i'll show ya i find [TS]

  myself wondering you know if they got to [TS]

  jackhammer out the pothole to create the [TS]

  slush [TS]

  yeah at all for the story there i'm sure [TS]

  there is like the bonus material on the [TS]

  D found a couple more quick notes okay [TS]

  Leila respected my this is just a plan [TS]

  for killing the president will skip that [TS]

  for now we'll get back to the bonus [TS]

  track that's more bonus traffic dear my [TS]

  favorite early mean Phil moment is is on [TS]

  the first day when he encounters the old [TS]

  beggar he doesn't think where he [TS]

  pretends to feel for his wallet and then [TS]

  he walks on [TS]

  oh yeah and then on the second day even [TS]

  though he's in the midst of this near [TS]

  panic where he's realizing what's going [TS]

  on he does it again [TS]

  yes it's just it's completely part of [TS]

  his character is part of his being that [TS]

  he fakes out that the guy begging for [TS]

  money and doesn't give him anything [TS]

  and then last thing does the black [TS]

  bartender who's job seems to be just to [TS]

  shake his head at people [TS]

  does he know what's going on Oh is he do [TS]

  you you think he's the magical angel who [TS]

  spends ten thousand years standing there [TS]

  saying when is this tour could ask me [TS]

  why I keep taking my head and he never [TS]

  actually gets noticed there's gotta be a [TS]

  reason why his whole purpose is to like [TS]

  look at in kind of smirk and shake his [TS]

  head and go back to wiping his glass but [TS]

  it doesn't matter what happens around [TS]

  him [TS]

  that's too maybe that's just it maybe he [TS]

  just does that no matter what happens [TS]

  around him that's his character he's [TS]

  also stuck in the state but he gave up a [TS]

  long yeah I like I'm actually play [TS]

  that's one of the one of the things [TS]

  that's interesting about the novel [TS]

  replays that he he discovers as he goes [TS]

  there are some other people who are also [TS]

  replaying from various times who have [TS]

  frames of reference that nobody should [TS]

  know in that time and after that is [TS]

  something that's interesting in this [TS]

  movie where he doesn't have he doesn't [TS]

  have anybody again it's a very short [TS]

  time scale but that's a that's kind of [TS]

  fun moment in that book where they [TS]

  actually take out a classified ad in [TS]

  like the new york times in the early [TS]

  seventies where they list a whole bunch [TS]

  of facts about things that happen in the [TS]

  future hoping that they can draw out [TS]

  other people who remember the future [TS]

  they just get crazy people as it turns [TS]

  out yeah [TS]

  edge of tomorrow being more explicitly a [TS]

  riff on these concepts as somebody who [TS]

  used to have this problem but doesn't [TS]

  anymore huh [TS]

  so several times time Cruz has to go to [TS]

  the per se I i have that thing you had a [TS]

  business I tell you this okay let's move [TS]

  on with that wide while they're still [TS]

  standing there goggle-eyed he has to [TS]

  push them to move the plot is that the [TS]

  movie they changed the name of so they [TS]

  could sell dvds yeah yeah it's a pretty [TS]

  good movie but nobody would see it so [TS]

  now it's called lived I repeat [TS]

  yeah that was supposedly the original [TS]

  name well the other it was it was all [TS]

  you need is kill was the was the name of [TS]

  the the book that is based on and that's [TS]

  a better name too and they change the [TS]

  edge of tomorrow which was a really bad [TS]

  name and it was a lot and it got good [TS]

  reviews and people everybody likes it [TS]

  and it was just poorly marketed so they [TS]

  yeah they basically retitled it for the [TS]

  marketing of the of the video version [TS]

  it's fun watching [TS]

  I'm Cruz turn into an action hero over [TS]

  several cycles and it's fun how brutal [TS]

  that movie is and saying well it's time [TS]

  to start a new cycle shoot head [TS]

  yep i couldn't have lived that day over [TS]

  and over i do like haha wasn't making [TS]

  love like sea otters yeah yeah yeah yeah [TS]

  yeah man you know how others make love [TS]

  their horrifying little Monteith's know [TS]

  like I'm not why do you because they are [TS]

  answer that okay [TS]

  gosh I wish we could all live in the [TS]

  mountain so high altitude high altitudes [TS]

  yeah that's where I see myself in five [TS]

  years under your winter prediction was [TS]

  gonna be cold it's gonna be crazy and [TS]

  it's gonna laugh at you and rest of rest [TS]

  so good gonna be a long winter it all [TS]

  right well we've reached the end or have [TS]

  we know what [TS]

  oh uh huh I'd like to thank my guests [TS]

  for coming i'm talking about groundhog [TS]

  day chips under thanks for being here [TS]

  Jason this podcast capture the true [TS]

  excitement of a large squirrel [TS]

  predicting the weather [TS]

  Erica and sign thank you thank you i was [TS]

  glad to be able to be here even though [TS]

  it was the end of a very long day [TS]

  very long day funny how that is what he [TS]

  actually thank you very much i could [TS]

  watch this movie again and again Dan [TS]

  Frakes thanks for being on is it too [TS]

  early for flapjacks Steve let's thank [TS]

  you very much [TS]

  okay campers rise and shine and don't [TS]

  forget your booties because it's cold [TS]

  out there [TS]

  this however you restart the podcast [TS]

  from the beginning morons [TS]

  your bus is leaving thanks everybody for [TS]

  listening to the uncomfortable we will [TS]

  see you next time [TS]

  in comfortable number 230 who Groundhog [TS]

  Day 2015 [TS]

  welcome back to be uncomfortable i'm [TS]

  your host Jason snow night when talking [TS]

  about think we're in the suicide lupinus [TS]

  want your little hand in mine [TS]

  no is a little mountain we can't plan [TS]

  who you can't plan a podcast like this [TS]

  well you can it just takes a lot of work [TS]

  why is it sunny singing that line his [TS]

  hand has to be at least half the size of [TS]

  shares for that matter why is it sunny [TS]

  outside it's 6am on februari second good [TS]

  point okay you've ruined this for movie [TS]

  is ruined [TS]

  oh my god is it why didn't he ever stay [TS]

  up past 6am in this man i wondered about [TS]

  that too and i figured it's probably a [TS]

  woman when he was in bed with andie [TS]

  mcdowell did me no notions midnight one [TS]

  presumes he falls school I think that's [TS]

  what happens is is you can stay home he [TS]

  liked it starts over [TS]

  yeah he just there's a moment of lost [TS]

  consciousness and then boot at six [TS]

  o'clock again and they could have had a [TS]

  scene where things go jump cut to him [TS]

  back in the bed have clarified that for [TS]

  me it was 19 [TS]

  it was 93 did they do jump cuts back [TS]

  then point it's not a lens flare in this [TS]

  movie either [TS]

  no mm so the thing that bugs me most [TS]

  about Andie McDowell is the fact that [TS]

  she's she seems to be like turning on a [TS]

  dime between good-natured goofiness and [TS]

  just seething anger are we really doing [TS]

  this podcast again it really confuses me [TS]

  now wait a minute Steve you do that all [TS]

  the time [TS]

  yeah not not in McDowell know it's it's [TS]

  weird one second she's she's like [TS]

  good-naturedly laughing along with the [TS]

  comment that film makes and then [TS]

  actually like no he suddenly extremely [TS]

  angry with him are you drunk or [TS]

  something because she's a terrible [TS]

  actress I think that maybe it in its [TS]

  trapped in a good movie i think you may [TS]

  have you may have hit the nail on the [TS]

  head there [TS]

  I feel bad business this is I'm glad [TS]

  nobody on the podcast profess their [TS]

  undying love for Brady McDowell as as [TS]

  Erica expressed her her in enjoyment of [TS]

  michael biehn and the Terminator [TS]

  terrible things I i will stand up for [TS]

  Michael be mad i yank I too can't stand [TS]

  and mcdouble [TS]

  she's in she's in this which is one of [TS]

  my all-time favorite because i love sex [TS]

  lies and videotape and and for weddings [TS]

  and if you know for very different [TS]

  reasons I'm on board with all those plus [TS]

  i really do like Hudson Hawk a lot she [TS]

  loves rhinestones and living at high [TS]

  altitude and french romantic poetry and [TS]

  I just I take all of her traits as being [TS]

  satirical comments on what an awful [TS]

  actress and how I don't like her [TS]

  it is because i don't like her character [TS]

  I don't like to think she likes I don't [TS]

  find them [TS]

  romantic or attractive in any way and [TS]

  the fact that he learns them i find [TS]

  laughable but again i love the movie i [TS]

  love it I love it [TS]

  is it possible that sweet vermouth on [TS]

  the ice is good i mean no no you haven't [TS]

  tried to have you no one has no one like [TS]

  you know don't forget I think you forgot [TS]

  the twist jason with yes makes the right [TS]

  you're right with it was great [TS]

  sweet sweet that is I itself is is X [TS]

  script that is a great moment by the way [TS]

  just to look at Bill Murray's a Gatsby [TS]

  expression when when she orders it and [TS]

  then we tasted i'm going to use it yeah [TS]

  oh yeah that's beauty like the very [TS]

  first scene where you see her where [TS]

  she's doing the green screen thing [TS]

  yeah she's so evil she has even said [TS]

  anything yet [TS]

  yeah all this green screen I can't [TS]

  believe how hilarious this is 0 and [TS]

  she's like does the little hand thing to [TS]

  fill [TS]

  I can't believe you get to do this [TS]

  everyday is the best [TS]

  alright well i guess i guess thats [TS]

  that's it I guess we're done where we [TS]

  keep waiting for her to repeat and [TS]

  welcome back everybody the incumbent [TS]

  like asking your host Jason Snelling [TS]

  joining us today aren't I was hoping it [TS]

  would be tomorrow it tomorrow but i'm [TS]

  about to get out my toaster [TS]

  we can [TS]

  I got it [TS]

  I got it [TS]

  everybody's got their it's cold out [TS]

  there every day when I'm hardly and you [TS]

  know you can expect hazardous travel [TS]

  later today with that you know that the [TS]

  closer that Blizzard think blizzard [TS]

  thank you oh well here's the report the [TS]

  National Weather Service is calling for [TS]

  a big lizard there they are but you know [TS]

  there's another reason why today is [TS]

  especially excited especially cool [TS]

  especially cold okay but the big [TS]

  question on everybody's lips together [TS]

  chapel on their chaplain at right lift [TS]

  do you think Phil's gonna come out and [TS]

  see a shadow Punxsutawney Phil that's [TS]

  right Woodchucker zits round on one out [TS]