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00:00:00 ◼   ► I'm an eager beaver today apparently I'm [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► not drinking makers mark tonight [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► what do you usually every night or when [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► we record whatever record I think I have [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► once or twice I wouldn't say usually so [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► you're doing the show buzz and you [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► haven't told us and you haven't given us [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► the chance to get buzzed [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► no no I just poured myself a glass of [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► silver tree vodka which is this Easter [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► tarik vodka out of a Colorado that my [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► dad swears by and it is pretty damn [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► smooth i have to say esoteric yeah it's [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► odd [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► it's different it's not mainstream now [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► my hipster look at me go I'm not crazy [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► about the term hipster because it seems [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► like it's it's kind of like fanboy when [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► he was like people say it to it i think [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► what hipster means is that person is [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► cool in a way that I'm not and I don't [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► like that haha i guess that kind of what [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► that means yeah i like to give out what [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► hipster means no but I think once Eddie [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► you know just like fanboy usually is [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► like that somebody who defends the [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► product that i didn't get that I [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► probably wish I had that yeah like that [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► yeah especially that if especially like [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► that you know if I have some kind of [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► doubt that I made the wrong choice but [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► you know yeah I'd like to meet hipster [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► is like those people are cool either in [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► a way that I'm not or in a way that I [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► don't really understand why people think [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► that is cool i think that's fair John [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► what's your definition I mean it's not [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► the dictionary definition but what's [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► your is there a dictionary definition i [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► went to urbandictionary looking at off [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► across the definition of hipster and our [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► dictionary looks like it was written by [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► hipster ha ha ha ok alright so anyway [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► what marco was trying to get on you [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► about is that it's esoteric not [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► esoterics not a long e that's not even [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► an alternative pronunciation will find [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► then the well in that case then I am [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► drunk [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► even though I've had two sips of this [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► drink that I poured five minutes ago you [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► it was a possibility was an alternate [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► pronunciations if we learned anything [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► from correcting Glenn it's that a lot of [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► words have alternate pronunciations that [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► you've never heard but this is not one [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► of them according to the OS 10 [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► dictionary [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► good to know so any follow-up because i [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► actually do not have any other than [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► you guys disliking backing into parking [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► spots nothing that we've ever said has [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► been wrong [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► now everything we've said had been [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► correct and please email Marco and on [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► that bombshell [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► alright so i have a question for you [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► Marco and uh and I'd like to hear John's [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► two cents afterwards at why do you [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► leased cars this is actually really a [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► question I I i was hoping to talk about [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► this soon [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► I talked briefly in a few episodes back [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► and I didn't really address it properly [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► I've so I've done and energy before I've [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► done all 3 i've i've bought like i [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► financed a new car i bought aur I've [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► owned a used cars but not for me but [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► I've had a used car a new car that was [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► financed and a new car that was leased [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► and one of the biggest differences will [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► get to maintenance in a bit one of the [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► biggest differences about Elise is the [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► level of ownership stress that you feel [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► like for instance when it so the vehicle [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► at least my 3-series when i first got it [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► probably three it was like three or four [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► months old and I i was in the department [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► had had to park it outside and I even [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► like I even bought a spot in a like a [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► private lot to get keep it extra safe [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► and you know off the main street parking [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► and everything I wanted this thing to [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► stay nice and and so something like four [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► months after I got it I i noticed a [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► scratch and some some dirty hand prints [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► on the hood and what appears to have [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► happened is that somebody was a bent [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► over the front of my car and possibly [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► the snap on their pants or a zipper or [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► something made a nice s-shape scratch [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► right on the front of the hood that is [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► awful [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► e and this was an area where we learned [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► you know as I was writing this parking [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► spot we would occasionally see like [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► drunk teenagers hanging out there [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► because it was it was kind of it was [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► behind our building it was kind of like [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► there were some dark areas nearby so [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► turns out this is [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► really not a great place to park your [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► car so anyway few months old I got this [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► this scratch that the handprints [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► fortunately just washed off but scratch [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► was there to remind me of what happened [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► and it's still there and when when I had [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► my accord you know besides the door [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► getting back into and have to replace [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► the whole panel on like there was one [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► time where I noticed within the first [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► year having the accord that there was [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► like a slight like a slight scratch [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► along with the rear quarter panel like [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► it like that I'd like during past a [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► stick on the road not seen or something [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► like that like that kind of scratch and [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► it really fine thin scratch and that I [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► was so angry so here it was my first new [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► car i was paying it off for the next [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► five years and i knew that i was [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► planning on having it for probably [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► longer than that you know when you buy a [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► new car and you come from a family of [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► owning toyota's for four decades each or [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► for about a decade each eat you tend to [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► think that if you buy a new car you're [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► probably gonna have it for like ten [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► years so I took that so badly on the [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► honda because i bought it and I and I [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► was I was like I'm gonna have to stare [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► at the scratch for 10 years [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► thank you hope now but hold on now isn't [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► it also after a while after you get over [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► the fact that your pristine baby has [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► been damaged [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► is it not a little bit liberating though [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► because at this point it's got a blemish [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► so kind of whatever that applies in any [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► case you had a car and no matter when [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► you get a car no matter how you're [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► paying for the matter how long you're [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► gonna have it that first imperfection [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► really really sucks like that hits you [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► hard but when like when you know you're [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► going to be owning this color forever to [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► me I took those really hard and I was [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► just so angry oh my god I'm gonna be I'm [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► gonna have to deal with this for 10 [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► years or get it fixed it's not really [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► worth getting fixed like stuff like that [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► so with the lease though and with my [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► with my hood sex scratch I I mean that's [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► I that's my theory [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► I don't have any evidence of that but [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► sure that's exactly what I thought but I [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► didn't wanna interrupt right i mean i [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► think it's i think it's fairly obvious [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► that so you know with that and with [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► everything I have a few other minor [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► scuffs [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► invite you know various like it looks [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► like somebody tried to enter my back [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► passenger door with a key so there's [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► like there's like a little scratch in [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► the handle on the I don't know how to [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► like you know how when people miss their [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► door with their key and you get a little [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► scratches around the keyhole area of the [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► door if there is one [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► it's like that but one of the back doors [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► I don't know why anyway so there's stuff [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► like that in this car but I'm knowing [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► that it was Elise I knew two things [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► first that I'm turning this car in three [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► years so you know if you if you have [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► even if you buy a car with the intention [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► of selling it in like three to five [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► years which a lot of people do [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► it's still not predefined and so the [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► other thing is like with the honda I got [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► killed on the resale that because the [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► the dealer who sold it to could tell [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► that the door had been repainted i guess [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► i can look around the edge or something [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► or someone to tell I couldn't I couldn't [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► do the difference but he could and so I [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► i lost a couple thousand dollars of [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► value probably on that car at resale [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► because it had been damaged in an [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► accident [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► even though it was fixed to my opinion a [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► perfect fix but he could tell that it [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► had been damaged so you know when you [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► buy a car but when when the resale value [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► is not yet determined you stand to lose [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► if there is minor damage you stand to [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► lose that recently I whereas on a lease [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► there's already some allowance built-in [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► of what I love you know what what level [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► of damage they will ignore at the end or [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► or some limit of how much they're [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► willing to pay for repairing a damaged [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► or something like that that's all [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► predefined so the stress is is lesson to [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► me and you know it and I don't know I [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► actually haven't had my first lease and [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► yet that will happen in a couple of [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► months [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► oh so maybe ask me again then but ice [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► but like to me it's it's much easier [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► owning this car knowing that the end of [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► my ownership of it is predetermined both [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► timewise and financially but it doesn't [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► it also incur a little bit of added [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► stress and what by that I mean [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► I don't know off the top of my head how [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► far I Drive in a year but let's say for [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► argument's sake that I go and I try to [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► leave the car tomorrow and I assume that [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► I Drive 12,000 miles and i'm at 10,000 [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► miles by June now I'm going to be [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► stressed out for the next six months [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► because I either only drive for 2,000 [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► miles or I know that I'm gonna pay for [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► it in the end so i I've never least a [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► car and I want to hear John's to sense [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► before i get into my whole history but [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► doesn't that it does it not also incur [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► in equivalent amount of stress [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► well it depends on what kind of driver [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► you are like you know certainly it one [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► of the problems with leasing and one of [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► the reasons why so many people can't or [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► shouldn't leave is if you either drive a [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► whole lot of miles or almost no miles [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► then then it's mispriced for you if you [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► have a whole lot of miles you're going [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► to pay way too much in overage fees you [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► should generally try to avoid overages [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► mileage fees and if you drive almost no [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► miles then you're paying for a level of [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► depreciation that the car is not really [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► going to have so you're kind of [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► overpaying for that and so certainly you [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► know you have to drive within the the [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► quote average and actually an average [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► but within the average range of $OPERAND [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► miles [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► I know in the u.s. leases are usually [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► ten twelve or fifteen thousand miles per [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► year [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► I don't know about other countries a lot [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► of your learning from the feedback of [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► the show quite a lot of this stuff is [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► different in other countries especially [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► especially involving pricing but but [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► basically yeah if if you don't if you [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► don't know what what amount of driving [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► you're gonna have to do in the next few [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► years within any reasonable ballpark or [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► if you do very very little or absolutely [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► a lot then at least probably isn't the [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► best bet but for most people you know [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► they can and I know with BMW i think i [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► have to double-check this and i know [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► this is just becoming the BMW show [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► that's because they're awesome [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► I think the 1i I think you can go on to [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► your account online and change your [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► mileage until like a month before you [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► turn the car like retro actively so it [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► turns out that you've driven way more [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► miles and you thought and you your least [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► a 10,000 miles and you can go in and say [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► oh just bill me as if i lose $MONEY to [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► 15,000 miles retro actively and we'll [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► just change it for you [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► I think I think that's true pmw anyway [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► so that that's why I just the myelin [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► which is basically you know you can look [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► at how much you have driven in the last [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► few years and get some idea of what your [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► average might be enough [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► John I've always heard about the least [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► vs by thing is that uh oh [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► if you look at two strategies one lisa [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► car every three years and second by a [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► car and drive it until like it gets [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► really old and you need a new one that [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► cost about the same amount of money but [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► you will have a nicer car if you lease [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► because this is just three-years-old you [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► leased a new one and it's presumably [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► better and nicer than the old car that [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► you were driving whereas if you buy it [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► and run it until it's dead or close to [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► dead you'll be using that car for at [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► least three Lisa's worth of time right [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► the reason I've never consider leasing [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► is because I mean I i like the idea of [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► having a car for a long period of time [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► so that this doesn't make sense there [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► and I would be I don't know the details [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► of like so you lease a car and you get [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► into an accident with it aren't you [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► losing something when you bring that [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► back because you would have to pay to [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► repair the car and then the lease ends [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► as Marco said there they don't want that [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► now damage and repair card back so now [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► you're losing out on the you know that [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► bringing the car back to them so it's [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► like a double whammy [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► well you don't I i I'm we should find [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► out exactly how this is done I admit I [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► don't know either as far as i know when [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► you are leasing a car that is an [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► accident it you just get it repaired the [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► same way you would otherwise you know [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► some hopefully somebody's insurance pays [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► for to yours or the other person or [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► something and you just get it fixed [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► presumably you have to get it fixed to [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► their specifications and I don't know if [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► you think maybe go to a dealer [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► specifically deals don't usually do [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► bodywork so you know you maybe you have [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► to go to a list of approved people to [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► get it fixed but the but when you turn [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► that car and I don't think they're gonna [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► be you know doing you buy three thousand [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► dollars because the reduced value of a [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► car that's been an accident because i [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► think they've already calculated that [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► into the risk and they've already [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► average that into the price ever [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► hey is i don't know i think that i think [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► there is a I I like i said i don't know [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► anything about that leasing but I always [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► imagine that if you if you did lease a [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► car like it's not your car so forgets to [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► an accident you wrecked like their car [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► basically and they're not going to be [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► happier when you return their car and [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► i'm assuming there they are financially [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► protected from this eventualities by [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► things that are bad for you but I don't [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► I I imagine it's their car about as much [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► as it's the bank's car when you finance [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► a car like I i don't i don't think it's [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► like that is it is it is a little more [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► involved in that but but you know i mean [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► their you know their lien holder on my [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► title I will never get the title because [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► I would never have paid off [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► you know because alternative but as far [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► as i know having an action as long as [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► you get it repaired you know 22 some [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► level of of satisfaction or standards as [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► long as you get it repaired properly [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► I don't think you pay extra at the end [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► but I i will if we're still doing the [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► show in June when i'm probably gonna [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► have to swap cars i will i will do some [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► follow-up just got better listeners to [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► an accident before you turn it haha i'll [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► just passed out just another thing to [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► you know you mentioned you mentioned [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► like having paid the same amount on [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► average over time and that's that's [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► presumably because as cars get older [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► they start requiring more money and [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► maintenance on one of the one of the [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► biggest things with that is that with [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► the lease its predictable and this is [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► this is true to some extent when you buy [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► a new car when you get financed it also [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► whereas you know over it with you have a [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► ten-year-old car in any given month it [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► could cost you nothing to maintain or it [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► could cost you six hundred dollars and [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► it's it's unpredictable like when stuff [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► is going to break what it's going to [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► cost you know at some point it's pretty [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► predictable i mean all of our car I've [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► had all our grafts are very long time [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► like the car currently driving is 10 [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► years old and the cars we had before [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► rolling that like I pretty much know i [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► could tell you at least for honda's [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► anyway like it at what mileage what's [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► going to break and how much it's going [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► to cost you to repaired when you're [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► going to need new brakes how many sets [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► of new tires you're going to need all [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► that stuff i don't think i don't know [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► about as automatic transmission because [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► i only have $MONEY [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► and manuals but right and those are big [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► wild cards it when they did when they [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► break their expensive it's bumpy like [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► it's not flat but it's kind of like you [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► know you have the new car time where [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► everything's fine and then you have like [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► a honeymoon period where nothing is [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► going to break and then you started [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► around 60,000 miles started getting into [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► the expensive stuff and in between there [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► you have like the normal wear and tear [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► and maybe you need some new tires maybe [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► your brake pads and stuff like that but [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► once you pass 60 then you know the [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► things are going to do you need to [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► timing belt done which is a big one you [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► probably need to notice that breaks that [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► point and it's just you know that your [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► start waiting for the alternator to go [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► somewhere in there you need a new [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► battery water pumps going to go you know [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► around a hundred probably you know like [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► that things happened about it like at [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► that point the cars long since paid off [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► it's free most months you know so it's [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► that sounds like you will you'll be [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► driving a credit card then the person [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► that was just getting a new lease every [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► every three years and I don't honestly I [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► don't think Elise is is the same or [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► cheaper over time I i would say for sure [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► your method especially if you buy the [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► car used up front then I think I think [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► the method of buying by a car and at [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► least a good car you know I could like a [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► Japanese car something reliable if [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► you're going to own that for for a long [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► term then I think you're probably coming [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► out ahead of somebody leasing but they [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► won't be anything that will kill you is [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► if you buy an automatic transmission car [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► and the transmission goes after the [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► warranty drivetrain work it out but [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► before it should grows that's just [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► ridiculous 205,000 my uncle's are not [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► like a honda odyssey had a problem with [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► its transmission where there was none of [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► this class action lawsuit something with [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► it the previous generation odyssey the [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► transitions would go really early and [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► they were super expensive to replace and [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► they weren't under warranty and people [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► are very angry like that just kills your [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► investment cause you can't resell that [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► you can do anything you know [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► yeah no one wants to know what's a [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► minivan with a bad transmission but it's [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► not only automatics I'd made passing [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► reference in the past to the super [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► having some serious drivetrain woes and [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► not to give you two more reasons to be [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► on me and my Subaru but your wiper my [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► white super yes when it was [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► shoot i want to say 20 ish 22 40,000 [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► miles it was no must be like 20,000 [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► miles because it was within the 36-mile [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► drivetrain warranty i was driving down [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► the road in Charlottesville where I was [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► living at the time and all of a sudden [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► there was this loud crash and I hadn't [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► touched anything there was no touching [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► don't worry John [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► but there's some sort of like crashing [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► sound and then as I speed up or slow [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► down there was a repetitive thumping and [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► as it turned out there was something in [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► the rear differential that had broken [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► and so the rear differential basically [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► got replaced then I don't know is a year [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► or two ago I noticed that one of the [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► gears in in the transmission I don't [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► recall which one it was [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► whenever I was in that year I feel like [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► the transmission was wine here than [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► usual and it ended up that they needed [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► to replace something within the [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► transmission and I knew at the time and [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► I told myself to look up what it was [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► because i still have the receipt [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► somewhere and I completely forgot to do [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► that tonight but they replace something [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► within the transmission and while they [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► had all these bits out I was like well [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► screw it why don't you do the clutch [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► while you're in there and with an [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► all-wheel drive car that's a lot of bits [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► to take out just to get to the [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► transmission so we don't know it ended [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► up being like three or four thousand [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► dollars to get that work done last was [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► all on my dime because it was well after [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► the warranty ended so while John I think [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► you are absolutely correct that [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► automatics by and large are more [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► expensive depending on your choice of [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► cars and drive trains and all-wheel [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► drive car with even with a stick could [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► also be really darn expensive because [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► there's so much drivetrain to get out of [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► the way in order to repair something [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► like the transmission [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► yeah you lost the the car lottery there [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► because what happens like how did I ever [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► it's the same thing with it's even worse [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► with expensive car so you just get [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► unlucky and some part of it goes and [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► it's not covered for whatever byzantine [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► reason they decide that this is not [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► covered under the warranty for you know [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► either because time has elapsed or [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► because it's a we're apart that wears [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► out and it's not you know this is only [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► some reason that you're going to be [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► screwed by then depending on what goes [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► you could be in for lots and lots of [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► money [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► yes and it's something like you with the [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► least it's very predictable I mean [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► anytime you have a newer car you know [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► you like you can be pretty sure [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► that on a car that's less than five [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► years old [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► unless it's an American car which are [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► terrible please email Casey unless it's [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► in America are you probably will have to [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► do almost nothing to occurrence first [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► five years you know just the basic [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► eventually you have to do brake pads [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► maybe some tires but you know not much [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► that being said I i did have a topic I [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► wanted to bring up at some point and [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► this seems like as good a place as any [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► we've all at some point owned old cars [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► John you spent your entire life somehow [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► owning old cars how what's the weirdest [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► thing you ever had to repair or replace [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► on on a car you've owned may I go yeah [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► so I don't remember if I've told the [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► story on the air but if I did I did it [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► very briefly when i was in college i was [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► driving and I know I've talked about my [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► dad's 94 saturn sl2 and I was going to [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► pick up my then-girlfriend but from [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► class and I pulled up to a stop light [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► and I noticed that something felt wobbly [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► and I was about to make a left and this [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► was during class change in Virginia Tech [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► which is a pretty big University and [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► something felt wobbly when I came up to [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► the light but I was like okay that's [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► just weird and again this is 94 Saturn [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► and this was in 2003 ish and I go to [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► make my left after the light turn green [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► and i did so very gingerly and all of a [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► sudden I hear where and then I realize [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► I'm not going the direction i thought i [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► was going anymore I know I'm sliding on [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► the front rotor of my car because not [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► only do i hear $MONEY [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► metal scraping against the blacktop but [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► I'm watching my front passenger tire [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► bouncing towards the parking lot full of [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► parked cars so I nearly slid into the [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► into the curb [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► thankfully I was able to stop beforehand [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► thankfully the tire that was now a [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► projectile hurtling towards some [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► innocent parked cars that stopped just [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► before the cars [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► welcome to find out the four lugs the [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► four posts that the wheel is mounted to [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► shore in half which [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► does not happen so yeah as I was driving [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► down the road which granted i was doing [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► like five miles an hour but as I was [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► driving down the road the tire fell off [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► of my car that how at what car is this [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► my 94 saturn sl2 city which is wanted by [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► the way that explains it does explain [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► that I mean that's just incredible like [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► you're driving in the wheel falls off [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► me--that's yep that's impressive [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► thank you I was pretty proud of that for [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► like 12 seconds and then I quickly tried [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► everything I could to get rid of that [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► car and that's when I ended up getting [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► the white 300zx from my parents [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► wow so now I maybe I should wait until [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► the end I five totally shamed you too i [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► apologize i am i'm pretty well that was [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► boring in that pic for me it was when I [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► had my maxima at some point I don't know [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► how this happened [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► honestly I don't like as far as i can [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► tell nothing cause this I had to replace [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► the windshield washer fluid tank because [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► somehow it had cracked and I don't even [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► like there was no impact there was it [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► was not any kind of accident i hadn't [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► gone over some kind of bad pothole [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► nothing else on the car had broken [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► around this time somehow I cracked my [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► windshield washer fluid tank [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► well market when you filled it with [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► nothing but water and you live in New [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► York that's going to cause it to crack [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► no but that wasn't it it wasn't even [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► that mean it was like I I and that car [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► like so many things went wrong in that [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► car there times like I only own the [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► maxima for something like four years but [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► in four years I had to lie had to [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► replace the calipers and the brakes [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► twice the pads three times that tons of [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► brake problems somehow i reckon i really [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► don't mean i don't think i was driving a [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► reasonably or anything and also probably [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► had a windshield washer fluid think that [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► was that was a gem and then my friend [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► hit his mother had this old Mercedes and [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► he had to take his driving test in this [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► car you know when we were all like well [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► he was 18 at the time because he waited [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► forever anyway so we're 18 he's taken [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► driving test this Mercedes though I had [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► so many weird electrical issues [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► that in order to unlock the the [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► driver's-side door any door for that [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► matter you had to go to the back of the [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► car and turn the key in the trunk [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► keyhole and that would unlock the doors [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► because no other method worked and so he [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► had to do this during his driving test [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► and the first you know the first like [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► all right well you know that they're [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► referencing the doing the driving test [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► is the instructor makes you go and like [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► turn the windshield wipers on turntables [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► on make sure you know how to operate the [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► basic our instruments and yet he had to [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► go to unlock the trunk and then explain [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► like why the turn signal was weird and [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► all this stuff so since that i've i've [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► been very wary of of ever owning a [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► luxury car that's old because that [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► Mercedes was in such terrible shape [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► electrically that's surprising to me [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► because my grandparents have had [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► Mercedes wagons since I can remember and [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► they drive the crap out of those things [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► and change the oil like once every seven [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► thousand years and those things we have [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► always been tanks for them [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► I mean it's I mean every every car is [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► different obviously but I am surprised [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► that it was an old Mercedes that had [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► issues because every old Mercedes I've [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► ever personally been in has been a tank [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► well i have found also that people have [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► different different tolerances for how [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► much repair they want to do to a car and [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► how much money they want to put into a [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► car before they either just stop getting [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► things fixed or get a new car and it [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► like for me like because I have this [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► Japanese car history i think pretty much [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► anything that goes wrong in a car that's [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► not basics of like you know brakes and [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► tires and stuff i think i almost [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► anything else is weird and I start [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► considering what I want to keep this car [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► after that but maybe just have been [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► spoiled by for the most part good cars [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► with the exception of that maximal just [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► had constant weird problems that every [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► other nineties maximum it didn't have [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► that it's somehow i got i had like a [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► lemon in certain areas now John i have [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► to believe you have some pretty odd [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► repairs that you've either performed or [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► had performed on your behalf in your day [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► on your color I should clear mostly [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► mostly the normal stuff [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► the only pair I've ever actually done in [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► my own car [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► I was one my sister i believe and she [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► doesn't have this podcast so she can [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► refer me put up my sister and my mother [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► were both bad and backing out of our [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► garage where I grew up and the driver [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► side mirror of what would eventually [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► become my 92 civic got sheared off how [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► and we bought a replacement mirror and [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► install that myself because I forget how [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► hard could it be [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► turns out it's much harder than you [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► think because no one of the tools we had [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► could reach in to get the tiny little [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► nut that you have to tighten to put the [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► thing on but anyway it's not that weird [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► sharing off mirrors and in backing out [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► of driveways the weirdest one that did I [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► did was when we lived in Atlanta there [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► was a gas station and the head like it [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► was like kind of up on a hill so the [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► road was down level and the little [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► entrance to little skirt that goes down [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► to road level was quite a steep hill and [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► 92 cific does not have much ground [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► clearance and I turned into the gas [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► station a little bit too fast and [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► bottomed out the front of the car all 2 [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► inches of ground clearance or whatever [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► it has and I banged the the the nut that [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► you unscrew in the oil pan to let the [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► oil out but i bet i'm going to that like [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► it's recessed you know it's recess time [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► it's on an angle but apparently it pokes [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► out just enough that if you slam it if [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► you bought him out the front suspension [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► on the hill and slammed it against the [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► ground it just bent that the little nut [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► inside the thing I and I was like all [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► right well is that going to be a big [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► deal and I would you know I was like a [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► slow leak avoid like little tiny drips [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► you come out in the morning that be not [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► a big pot of oil but a little puddle of [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► oil you know and just like how do you [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► want to get this repaired as you know to [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► repair it's not like they're gonna be [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► out there going to like go there and [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► rethread the thing or something you're [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► going to replace the whole oil pan which [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► is significantly more expensive one on [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► the only problem is not just a little [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► bit bent but every time i get the oil [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► changed good bug the league got worse [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► and worse eventually i divided the [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► bottom sorry all right now I know it's [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► just replace the whole pan i did and [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► maybe maybe I ripped off maybe they [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► could have taken out the not and [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► rethreaded with a free threading tool [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► but i think it was like been so that [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► that one annoyed me because I I the [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► dripping of the oil annoyed me having to [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► like put extra oil in the car [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► and always worried about leaving oil [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► spots when you're driving around all [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► because it's been a little bit too fast [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► into the gas station [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► so now just so kind of to that end do [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► you guys do your own maintenance on your [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► cars no no [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► so I do not by and large and i use the [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► excuse that I don't have a particularly [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► large amount of tools and that I'm very [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► busy which is funny for me to say [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► because i have no children as an excuse [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► not to do it but I also do not typically [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► do my own maintenance and this is a [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► random story that I'm I'd like to get [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► off my chest one of the things that [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► bothers me about the fact that I don't [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► do my own maintenance is because I'm [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► very particular about what oil i use in [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► my car and I always use synthetic oil [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► and as it turns out the BMW wants it [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► anyway but in other cars I've always use [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► synthetic like my wife's car for example [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► in her mazda super always had synthetic [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► and I actually had to this is already a [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► club terrible white wine but instead of [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► going to the subaru dealer that was five [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► minutes from my house and I had to go to [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► the subaru dealer solid half an hour [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► away because when i used to take it in [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► to get the oil changed i would ask them [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► hey even if you charge me for the oil [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► that you would have used would you [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► please use the synthetic that I'm [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► leaving in the car and the dealers said [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► no we have to use our oil which I [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► thought was the most ridiculous and [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► obnoxious thing I've ever heard in my [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► life because I basically said pls rip me [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► off I'd like you to use this oil and [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► they said no and so I had to drive half [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► an hour each way just to get my daughter [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► oil changed how to do if i chose to do [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► it at the dealer that is and it was very [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► annoying [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► that's really was a fantastic white line [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► it is isn't it [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► what are you basing the your desire for [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► synthetic oil on you think like if you [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► had regular oil this would impact your [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► life in some way that is measurable or [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► noticeable by you like what if they what [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► if they told you they used your oil and [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► just you know kept it for themselves for [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► their car and put in the regular oil [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► that how are you had crossed my mind I [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► would not have known and the reason I [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► use synthetic is because my my father [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► has said and again he used to be a [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► mechanic and still is very very good [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► with these things he has always run [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► synthetic in his [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► cars and he is of the opinion which [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► maybe its focus focus but he's of the [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► opinion that it helps the cars run [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► longer a very good friend of his who [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► passed away recently who isn't even [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► better mechanic my father and my [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► father's pretty good mechanic he swore [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► by synthetic I mean all the luxury [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► brands to my knowledge I think it's not [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► better i'm just saying is it better in a [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► way that you would notice [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► oh no but the reason I ran it was [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► because i was under the impression i [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► would keep the subaru forever and then I [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► didn't but so so in short you're [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► absolutely right there's no reason for [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► it and those mechanics are all keeping [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► your expensive oil that your brain [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► probably yes yeah that they're taking [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► home the guys you work through and [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► really the other dealer who would [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► install is actually the honesty of [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► everything was protecting himself [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► because like if someone it's like a way [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► to scam you bring your ear booby-trapped [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► oil and then you drive away from the [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► deal and your engine exploded you say [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► all you guys destroyed my car and you [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► know you see them for the cost of the [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► car because you know yeah it's a pretty [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► obvious liability cover their you know [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► yes and that's why they wouldn't do it [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► and I want to do parallel that you know [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► that they control that are gonna take [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► some unless you know some stuff that [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► some bottles provided by you and that [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► does sort of make sense but I mean I was [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► giving them a sealed container that was [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► clearly sealed from the factory yes i [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► know you could probably figure out a way [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► to to molest what's in there without [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► breaking the seal but still I don't know [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► it's just it's one who knows how to get [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► that was like that you know they don't [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► they don't know that oil is good for [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► your car right everybody having a [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► different matter even be malicious it [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► could just be you got a bad batch or [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► something that that's one of the things [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► i think that happened to be one sore [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► the theory is that happened to me once I [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► was having some strange problem with my [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► car was like oh maybe you got some bad [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► gas from gas station that had to know [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► something in it or whatever and if you [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► just run through this tank it'll be fine [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► and it was so to that end actually [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► brings up another good question when I [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► had the super early on another problem i [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► forgot about it was the first car it was [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► a 2005 legacy GT and to my recollection [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► that was the first year of that [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► generation and they had some really [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► interesting ECU problems with the turbo [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► where if I was under like a moderate [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► load and under moderate throttle in the [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► car would buck and I took me [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► easily six months of arguing with the [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► dealer this is not the oil dealers a [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► different dealer and saying to them no [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► really this is an issue with the car and [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► one of the things they did was blamed [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► the gas i was putting in it and so [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► because of that [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► well i was able to argue back with them [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► because i keep ridiculous records of [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► offer all my cars and i have an excel [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► spreadsheet that has everything to guess [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► whoever put in it really for this [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► yes for the subaru I've every receipt [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► for every tank of gas that's ever been [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► in it because at the time I thought to [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► myself well if I ever go to sell this [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► privately whoever whomever i sell it to [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► will appreciate the fact that mr. that [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► on this meticulous proactive selling [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► privately whether one [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► yeah we should and obviously i don't [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► plan on selling privately and so that [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► all this effort was basically for not [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► but the advantage of being such a [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► ridiculously indoor tennis bastard was [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► that I could argue with them and say no [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► look I'm not putting crap gasps in here [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► and putting decent cast in here which [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► one are you guys are you record keepers [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► not regard to do not give two craps no [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► no keep track of that stuff [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► John you disappoint me i think that [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► anything i save the receipts to give to [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► my accountant / wife so she can track [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► the fact that we pay for gas and you [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► know no one is you know using our little [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► mobile speed past thing without our [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► knowledge getting other guys but other [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► than that now I don't track mileage it [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► on my parents used to do that you write [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► down everything didn't compute the [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► mileage you know I don't do that at all [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► yeah don't do any kind of record keeping [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► that either i mean i figure i mean first [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► of all I'd like I'm not going to sell [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► any of my cars privately as if I can [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► avoid it because i will get back to that [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► in a minute but you know i'd rather not [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► solve things privately and the dealer [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► doesn't really care if you do if it's a [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► lease and you've turned in or if you're [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► trading in a car to a dealer they don't [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► care either way that the price we're [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► going to give us nothing to do with what [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► kind of gas you put in it at or where [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► you bought it or what kind of mileage [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► for everything that they couldn't really [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► care less [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► that's true upon sale but another thing [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► of understood is for the three three [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► fives for those with the n54 engines so [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► that's up until i believe it's up to and [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► including 2010 they had some major [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► issues with high pressure fuel pump and [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► from what I've gathered a lot of times [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► BMW dealers would give owners a really [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► hard time they're putting like Costco or [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► Sam's or kroger [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► stop and shop gas into their cars and [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► they would say oh you're putting crap [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► gasps and here it's not our fault and I [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► believe diesels like Volkswagen diesels [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► had similar issues if i'm not mistaken [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► where if you put crap diesel in it or [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► whatever the case may be and I don't [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► really know anything about diesel but if [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► you put chrome bezel in it then Oh with [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► your engine explodes it's not our fault [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► that's one of the things I love about [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► honda is that they've been holding the [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► line on non premium gas like you know [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► just plain ol days have an octane even [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► my I believe a couple generations of [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► cameras required premium and stuff like [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► really want to get about honda has been [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► very strongly at least in there not an [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► accurate perhaps but at least in the [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► honda line of sticking to you know plain [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► old normal octane gas [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► yeah that is very convenient when you [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► when you have a car that does not need [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► premium that's very very nice i think [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► the last car i owned that did not need [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► premium on Saturn because he needed it [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► subaru needed it BMW needs it actually [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► errands car does not but I so very [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► rarely fill that so it's actually not [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► mine i didn't actually check the 2013 [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► according to assume it still does not [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► require premium but I i love not using [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► premium but back when I was driving my [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► parents like I believe the four-wheel [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► drive minivan [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► I don't know if required premium may be [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► required like 91 but you could put 93 [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► and it but i always put 93 years it [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► wasn't my money but since since I got my [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► own car and my own you know gas card i [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► was happy that all my cars take the [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► cheap gas for what it's worth I think [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► please email Casey with the responses [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► but I think when cars require premium I [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► think they usually just require 91 i [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► don't i don't think they require like 93 [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► 94 95 all those crazy ones that are [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► ridiculously expensive i think those are [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► just for people who think it'll matter [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► or people who are not using their own [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► money [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► I think that's right but I'm probably [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► wrong as well so we don't email either [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► of us how much is gas for you guys right [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► now at pure curiosity i ask because I [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► filled up today and it was over four [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► dollars for premium for me which is [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► somewhat rare around these parts [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► Europe is going to email us so hard [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► after all God you had no it's not [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► oh you're going to have health care [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► happy I did not betray their expensive [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► gas but you have healthcare that works [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► out million really long vacations [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► yeah that was the dumbest thing I've [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► ever said thank you John for saving now [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► that's great i mean i honestly around [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► around here and and you know the [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► tri-state area [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► I almost always pay four dollars a [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► gallon and it's very rarely under that [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► 491 usually it's like in the $YEAR ford [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► 25 or 30 range that's that's it's very [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► readily less than that NP i had people [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► tell me that when I was apparently if i [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► want to go when we go to Germany with [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► the m5 that it's something like eight [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► dollars a gallon over there was talking [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► to my buddy Brian about that and he had [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► noticed because he's going to France [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► with his girlfriend in i would totally [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► unrelated to cars but they're going to [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► rent and they're going to drive around [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► France with whatever crap econo box that [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► they get and he was saying that on [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► google maps and let's talk about this [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► market on google maps i don't know if [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► this is a Europe thing or everywhere [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► they actually have a price calculator so [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► you can tell Google Maps what kind of [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► car you have is a diesel is a big car [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► small car and what approximately how [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► much you think a gallon or leader of gas [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► will be or diesel and it will compute [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► about how much it will cost for whatever [TS]

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00:38:36 ◼   ► never personally seen but he showed me [TS]

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00:40:20 ◼   ► have you guys ever sold a car privately [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► i have $MONEY i sold my poor 92 civic [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► Casey now I've not and as i've mentioned [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► briefly but previously i do not intend [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► to sell the super privately because i'm [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► too lazy and don't want to deal with the [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► headache so John how did it go when you [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► sold yours [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► well first of all the reason i sold like [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► what it was was an older you know as a [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► 92 and i think i've replaced it and [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► replaced it with the 2002 so most of you [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► know there have been about 10 years [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► there i don't remember so hard to tell [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► because if you remember your car's model [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► year that has very little bearing on [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► what year you bought the car right [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► it's like getting plus or minus 100 0 or [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► x plus or minus 2 they do crazy bright [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► years plus I I tend to try to buy like [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► the last year's model as soon as [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► anyone's come out to get like the last [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► of the inventories you get a good deal [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► anyway the clutch was going on and it [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► was like a hundred and fifty thousand [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► miles something most of that trying to [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► take that gamble of like timing when to [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► get rid of it by writing for the clutch [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► dies as soon as i know i felt it [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► slipping soon as I felt so like the [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► fully engage clash with slip a little [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► bit i was like oh no alright it's ok i [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► first we went to get a new car and that [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► they didn't want to trade it like it was [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► worthless to that person was a liability [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► was zero dollars was their offer further [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► for the city because it really was not I [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► mean it was in good condition it was [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► clean and it had had lots of work done [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► to it over the years and many things [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► have been replaced in it but but the [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► bottom at the end of the day it was [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► 1992a honda civic DX which is the one [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► you know the really cheap one that had [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► the am/fm cassette stereo and air [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► conditioning [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► that's the only two options the in a can [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► and FM that's right and no loss no one [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► is under no passenger side mirror did it [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► having all of my design [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► yeah well you have no passenger side [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► mirror that give you use extra that was [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► extra yes I'm the DX it does not come [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► standard with the passenger side mirror [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► you have to hate you had to pay extra [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► for my parents did not pay extra for and [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► actually relatively expensive compared [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► to the cost of the car that's when I was [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► my car though I love that car better [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► than any of the better than the current [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► civic app sure so they didn't want it so [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► I'm like well it's not worth zero like I [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► looked up what it's worth and it was [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► worth something so I'm like our final [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► selling myself so I think it might have [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► been craigslist or something like that [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► it took pictures of the carb loaded you [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► know and I guess this was before [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► craigslist became terrible and we had [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► someone you know our company will come [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► and look at it and i only remember of [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► taking one person out for a test drive [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► and they drove it just around my little [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► neighborhood here and I was like please [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► don't want them those two clutch is [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► slipping please look and either it [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► didn't slip or they didn't notice and [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► you know I had I had a little bit of the [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► kc effect going because we have like [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► every repair we'd ever done to it and [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► all the paperwork going through it all [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► the oil changes that we saved all that [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► stuff and you can see me replace the [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► head gasket when the water pump died and [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► my wife group drove with it the [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► temperature needed on h4 really really [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► long time so you know new water pump new [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► head gasket new timing belt new [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► alternator battery you know fresh breaks [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► press tires so many things we've done [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► this a new radiator new spark plugs like [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► we taking care of it we kept it up and [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► everything like that it was it was still [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► looking pretty condition but like the [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► clutch need to be replaced and that [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► would have probably been much more [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► expensive than the previous repairs so [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► the person was buying it for like for [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► their kid to like learn how to drive or [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► something like that and I really didn't [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► feel too bad because like it's going to [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► destroy this thing anyway like the car [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► you learn to drive stick on is probably [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► going to get mauled it's a great cover [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► that like it if if you're selling [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► somebody a car that doesn't have a whole [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► lot of clutch lifetime left [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► and you're selling it to somebody who's [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► going to learn how to drive stick on it [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► that's perfect then if they burn out the [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► clutch in three months well that's [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► because you're learning to drive stick [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► on it was my dad whatever it was also I [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► to admit it's the first is you know they [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► saw all the repairs like if you don't [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► see it then this little stack of paper [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► that means its original and I believe I [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► mentioned that probably have guilt you [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► know it's the original collection the [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► car has like a hundred fifty thousand I [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► you do the math okay that's not cutting [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► the last forever and not and I wasn't [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► the sole driver this car like you know [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► my whole family drove before they sold [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► it to me so who knows would abuse this [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► car had been through but i don't think i [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► got like $1,500 for something like that [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► it was like it was below 2000 and i was [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► very happy to get it was certainly [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► better than 0 and I was sad to see that [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► cargo because simply replace it was [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► crappy but never heard from the person [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► again no problem i think they paid with [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► a check in when it's like a thousand [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► something boxing out like you know [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► didn't need to get like 18 forms of ID [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► and a cashier's check for a bank or [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► anything it's just like well whatever [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► you know we know where you are your name [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► and your address and give us a check to [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► check cleared we got the money signed [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► over the title bun and done I was [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► perfectly happy with the experience [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► except for the fact that my poor [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► pathetic . away from me and actually it [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► occurred to me that I lied i have sold a [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► car privately sort of so the 300zx I've [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► mentioned in the past I had it I got it [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► in 2003-2004 way at this was right after [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► the Saturn's after mentioned wheel [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► accident and so I have it was like six [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► months after i got it or eight months [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► less than a year after i got from my [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► parents that it had been in the shop so [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► often that I decided you know screw it [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► i'm just going to go get a new car and [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► so i bought the subaru and not only the [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► Super's doing now the Z kind of SAT [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► broken for a while and eventually I took [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► it to the local Nissan dealer to figure [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► out what was wrong with it and [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► potentially get it repaired and I had [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► said to the dealer [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► hey listen I don't want this car anymore [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► so if anyone wants it [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► I'm open and as it turns out one of the [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► mechanics there did want it and bought [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► it for some absurdly cheap amount of [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► money which I was fine with because I [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► just wanted to get the hell out of my [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► life [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► even though I loved that car into this [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► day i miss that car and I kind of wish I [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► hadn't gotten rid of it [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► I did strictly speaking sell that [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► privately which was the easiest sale [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► ever because I basically said here's the [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► situation it is broken you know it's [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► broken [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► give me I think it's like 1,200 bucks or [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► something absurd like that and we'll [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► call it good and I was that love it was [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► like I got more than that 492 silicon [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► you sold like the maximum is much nicer [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► car than that it was a 300zx but I don't [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► yeah but either way I get to activate a [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► minute well and I mean you're right and [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► I knew I was getting robbed but I was ok [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► with it because I just didn't want to [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► deal with the hassle of it yeah maybe [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► that's the thing about like when you're [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► selling an old car that's with you if [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► you're in the the school of thought [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► where you buy a car and you keep it [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► until it's basically dead basically dead [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► is the point where you sell it at that . [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► the car is worth so little that you just [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► want to get rid of it it's almost like [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► you get like a grand or something and [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► you're like wow okay well the cars out [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► of my life I don't have to deal with it [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► i have a thousand dollars in things like [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► you'd run into a bit of value out of the [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► out of the car maybe your maybe your [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► 300zx maybe you didn't get every bit of [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► value out of that because it sounds like [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► it was a little flaky but I I felt like [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► I got everything I could get out of the [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► Pacific and I mean the main reason i [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► probably would repair the clutch if I [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► was like single and wasn't you know [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► starting a family or whatever but it's [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► just it's a very small car it's not [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► particularly safe it's old and you know [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► I wanted to own it upgrade so i would if [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► it was if i was looking at myself I was [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► a bachelor just kept pumping money into [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► my car because i loved it and the comedy [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► of the 300zx is when we bought it we [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► bought it from a friend of my dads whom [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► had bought the car new and the clutch [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► was shot when we bought it and we bought [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► it knowing full well that we would need [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► to do the clutch but dad being a [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► mechanic he and I did the clutch [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► together whereby I mean he did all the [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► work and I was a go for his behalf and [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► you had on the ranch yeah exactly [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► exactly which brother it was a really [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► cool experience doing the clutch in that [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► car but as a man who i'm just being my [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► father is a man who is used to like [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► 1970s era buicks and $YEAR and $YEAR [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► dodgers and Chevy's to work on a car [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► that was designed by the by the Japanese [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► where everything is squished in is into [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► a small place as possible he heated [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► working on that [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► our with a passion but yes when we [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► bought it at a blown clutch when we sold [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► it I forgetting it was something wrong [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► with ignore when i sold it was something [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► wrong with the ignition that was causing [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► it to run like garbage and just like you [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► said John couldn't agree more i was just [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► happy to get out of my life and hey I [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► got a couple that got like a thousand [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► bucks out of the deal which is pretty [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► sweet right years once you once you get [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► down to that level of value where cars [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► worth like a few thousand bucks at most [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► then it started to become about timing [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► it with maintenance you know like if [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► it's like if you get if you get to get [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► rid of this car before another year [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► putting another thousand dollars into it [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► the henna then you know it you come out [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► roughly the same but that's why cars [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► tend to have that their pricing tends to [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► bottom out and stay at a certain level [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► for a while like a an eleven-year-old [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► car and a thirteen-year-old cards the [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► same model is going to cost about the [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► same amount like it's not going to that [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► different because at that point you're [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► just paying for occasional maintenance [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► here and there you know your regular [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► maintenance but you know you're not [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► really like the depreciation is bottomed [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► out and you're just kind of riding it [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► out until it's totally way too expensive [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► to repair and then you just get rid of [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► so anyway with my maxima I i sold that [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► privately because i wanted to go without [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► a car for a while to help save some [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► money and i was living in in Pittsburgh [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► at the time and I was in a nice place [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► where I didn't I i don't really need a [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► car i could walk everywhere that I [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► needed to go including to work it was [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► awesome i wasn't i love pittsburgh it [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► was fantastic and so I went like six [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► months at a car which first of all i [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► would not recommend doing because if you [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► have a gap in your insurance coverage in [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► the u.s. I don't know how this works in [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► other countries but in the u.s. if you [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► go [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► sigh I think more than 30 days without [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► having car insurance [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► it makes it very hard to get insurance [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► again once you decide to resume needing [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► insurance for owning a car and we pay a [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► higher rate and a lot of insurers won't [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► take you immediately this was a problem [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► i had I i had the same problem i had [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► actually worse in Brooklyn when I moved [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► there for a year and sold the honda how [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► it was worse because I went longer [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► without a car and after I moved out of [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► Brooklyn came up here that's the suburbs [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► with my [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► 328i had to get like I think it would I [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► think all states who I tried first I [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► always had them and they would ensure me [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► because it's what we can ensure somebody [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► who had a lapse in coverage i think they [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► assume if you have a lapse in coverage [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► you're very likely to have like had a [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► DUI or suspension or or you know maybe [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► your you your credit is shot you're [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► really short of money you got to sell [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► your car for a while like they assume [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► there's something about that that caused [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► you to be much higher risk to ensure so [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► i had to first have a year on travelers [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► because i'll take pretty much anybody on [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► some kind of super high risk thing that [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► i paid way too much money for have a [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► year on them first and then transfer to [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► all state where they would like after I [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► had another year of someone somebody [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► else they would take me back even though [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► i have a great i mean i didn't check [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► geico I did that that's a good question [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► that we can have heard only terrible [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► things about about how I go respond in [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► an accident like with repairs and stuff [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► I've heard I've heard the worst things [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► in the world second only by progressive [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► who I've heard far worse things have [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► apparently progressive is terrible to [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► deal with if you ever need to make a [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► claim but I don't have any first-hand [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► experience that thank God but anyway so [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► when i sold the maxima you know I it was [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► i was so tired of pumping money into [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► things like the windshield washer fluid [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► tank and a million sets of brakes that a [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► I sort of you know blue book value on it [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► was something like five thousand dollars [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► so i asked something here that I took a [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► few people on test drives [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► I think I did something craigslist you [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► because it was around but not sucking [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► yet and just like 2004-2005 maybe so [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► yeah so the problem was it was such a [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► time sink having people like come see [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► the car schedule it with them scheduled [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► to come look at it take a test drive [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► you know it took so much time is such a [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► pain in the butt that eventually and and [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► like and like whenever you sell a car in [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► the US that's a stick [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► you're gonna have people who come all [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► the way out to you no matter how many [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► times you've said it's a stick [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► they're gonna come all the way out there [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► and say oh I didn't realize it was a [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► stick [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► I can't drive a stick hoop Cena so it's [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► like that we can be something that I i [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► think i ended up showing the car like 45 [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► people i was getting fed up some guy [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► comes [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► who was gonna auction it and and put it [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► on a boat to I think he said like I [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► think he just basically said the middle [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► east i assume it was a country in the [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► Middle East that we know have a good [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► relationship with because it's probably [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► difficult otherwise their cars to them [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► so he offered me $MONEY well below my [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► asking price i think-think emergent [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► think it was like 3500 out of my 5000 [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► asking price he offered cash and and I'm [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► like I was and he goes he came over he [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► looks at the car [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► I don't even think he drove it like I [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► think it's just a look at okay i'll give [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► you know 300 for it and he just takes a [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► travel cash and I'm like you know what [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► would you mind can we drive to the bank [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► for a second and i drove into my bank up [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► the blog and and I walk in and I had him [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► like you know wait like you know a few [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► feet back under the counter I'm like I [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► just going to tell him like hey I'm [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► selling my car to this guy I've never [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► done this before can you just like look [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► at this and deposit and just make sure [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► its real and i'm not like make sure that [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► there's no way this can go over aki and [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► kai I don't know what I was doing you [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► know like that's that's the amount of [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► money that I would have definitely [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► missed at the time and and you know you [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► don't want to be scammed out of [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► thousands of dollars so and having never [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► done this before i was so paranoid about [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► about getting ripped off and this guy [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► was a pretty shady looking guy with a [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► giant mullet who's gonna put my car and [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► boat to the Middle East so you know I i [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► I'd good reason I think to be suspicious [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► but and and it and it was fine you turn [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► it was fine now one thing that we have [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► addressed though is when financing is [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► involved and this is one area that I [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► don't think I will ever tackle i really [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► hope I never have to because like if [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► either the buyer or the seller is [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► involved with alone to to buy or sell [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► this car i would imagine the complexity [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► and that alone and the likelihood of the [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► of the deal falling of heart is probably [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► high enough that it's not worth even [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► engaging in those deals you know I [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► actually have a bit of a story about [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► that i should also note that I what [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► we've heard this question for many [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► people but among the people we've heard [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► this from was a [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► in sims in and i wanted to mention her [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► mostly because she was kind enough to [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► use the phonetic pronunciation her [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► follow-up are in her her feedback i [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► should say which was very nice the [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► problem right there [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► yeah it is President Pro podcast [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► feedback move see that's right that [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► that's how you get attention [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► we're very worst suckers at least i'm a [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► sucker that way anyway but i think i [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► mentioned the past before what before [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► about the white 335i I had looked at a [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► home on blue 335 that a gentleman in [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► Florida was trying to sell and i think i [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► told you the ultra succinct story [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► earlier but the slightly longer version [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► is it was at the time I felt like it was [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► the perfect car and I still think to [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► some degree it was a little bit better [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► than the one I ended up with but the the [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► guy was asking i think it was like 40 [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► grand and so I talked to him on the [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► phone a couple of times and he had done [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► european delivery what like Marcos about [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► to do and i'll be tagging along [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► he had then had it shipped to the states [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► as you do with european delivery and [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► picked it up at the South Carolina BMW [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► factory where he did the performance [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► driving school which I'm hoping I can do [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► that between mark and i would think john [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► to meet us down there and I can convince [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► market to do it anyway he had done all [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► this cool stuff with the car he seemed [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► like a genuinely nice guy and he had [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► told me I'd ask her he had told me oh [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► hey is this dude you own it you have the [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► title in hand no no i don't but the bank [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► is very clear the bank that owns it is [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► very close by [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► it's not like it was bankrupt hold on so [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► it's not like it's bank of america you [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► know it's it's a local credit union and [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► blah blah and so I was like okay well [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► why don't you let me know you'll make [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► sure that you don't owe more than your [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► asking for the car and let's get all [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► that squared away and let's make sure [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► this all works and if it does then don't [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► go ahead and book a plane ticket and [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► we'll go down and get it so we're going [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► to complain ticket for for this deal it [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► was in florida that was risk man that's [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► such a risk [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► well as it turns out i got on the phone [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► with him a couple days later and I was [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► ok so did you talk to thank ya i talked [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► to think how much do you owe and again I [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► think the car he he was asking 43 wanted [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► 40 and so how much do you owe 5100 [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► how much was it you that's a lot on a [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► 335 my 335 sticker 55mm how long and how [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► long did he have it near maybe two [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► I didn't have a whole lot of miles on it [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► either and it was well loaded I mean my [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► my my 335 is about as loaded as they [TS]