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  speaking of license plate i was behind [TS]

  someone from Tennessee recently and I'm [TS]

  pretty sure they use their states shape [TS]

  as a hyphen [TS]

  okay that's very common how does that to [TS]

  this disgusting looking like the worst [TS]

  the worst hyphen it's terrible it's you [TS]

  know its shape Tennessee is right it's [TS]

  not hyphen shape you like it it's it [TS]

  looks like a lovely intern finish of [TS]

  someone's butt is like laying between [TS]

  years three sets of you two sets of [TS]

  numbers and letters and its just oh I [TS]

  just did not like it [TS]

  no that's terrible and was present with [TS]

  Tennessee plates doing in our state [TS]

  anyway get the matter i mentioned in the [TS]

  last episode my friend shown in [TS]

  Connecticut he ran a nissan 240sx and I [TS]

  thought it was with winter tires and he [TS]

  wrote in to correct me and say no you [TS]

  moron actually that had summer tires and [TS]

  I still made it work in the snow as [TS]

  silly as it might have been but the [TS]

  other thing he said which I thought was [TS]

  really interesting was and i'm gonna [TS]

  read the read the email one final [TS]

  comment that's probably completely [TS]

  off-topic not all boxer motor sound [TS]

  terrible [TS]

  Porsches flats it Porsches flat-six [TS]

  sounds downright amazing so white subaru [TS]

  doesn't do it well from the factory so [TS]

  the white while the white subaru doesn't [TS]

  do it well from factory it can be done [TS]

  and we also got in got a Levendi million [TS]

  other people right in about the fact [TS]

  that Porsha's sound very good block as [TS]

  to why others aren't using them they're [TS]

  expensive four-cylinder counter for two [TS]

  heads when an inline 4 is only going to [TS]

  use one etc which I thought was really [TS]

  interesting i never thought of that the [TS]

  fact that there are actually two [TS]

  different heads on a boxer engine which [TS]

  for a four-cylinder seems a little [TS]

  overkill that in their wide and can be [TS]

  hard to fit in a given chassis but [TS]

  they're certainly unique and have a [TS]

  character all their own or so says the [TS]

  two-time owner of Subarus with flat [TS]

  fours so I just thought that was kind of [TS]

  interesting something I hadn't thought [TS]

  of before [TS]

  welcome to the world of podcasting Casey [TS]

  they're really infinite follow-up i will [TS]

  be able to address almost none of it I [TS]

  know and and it will keep coming lot [TS]

  like so we we've recorded episodes now [TS]

  we recorded the first episodes in [TS]

  january $MONTH $DAY of $MONTH 2013 in [TS]

  2015 you will still be getting people [TS]

  who have just discovered the show that [TS]

  downloads up [TS]

  episodes and are now going to write and [TS]

  tell you all the things you were wrong [TS]

  about two years ago i'm very much [TS]

  looking forward to it [TS]

  I enjoyed seeing complete disagreement [TS]

  among five people sending an email like [TS]

  you definitely need to know times you [TS]

  don't need them i live in the tundra and [TS]

  you need to my live in the North Pole [TS]

  you don't need the rear wheel drive is [TS]

  but a firm like no agreement no [TS]

  consensus what's up yeah completely [TS]

  unhelpful feed thanks but in the only [TS]

  other piece of follow-up I had a ck subs [TS]

  wrote in do you have any project cars [TS]

  now none of us do that was an [TS]

  interesting email like that the whole [TS]

  concept of of project cars i think is is [TS]

  worth discussing like you know like it's [TS]

  it's a pretty a pretty big culture of [TS]

  people who love buying you know usually [TS]

  really old cars and fixing them up and [TS]

  working on them and I don't know if it's [TS]

  a generational thing or what I never [TS]

  even had a little temptation to do that [TS]

  like not I have zero including to do [TS]

  that because I just I've never had [TS]

  anyone else in my life too [TS]

  who did that whoo hoo I would want to do [TS]

  it with and I'm sure about you guys you [TS]

  guys would be useless [TS]

  indeed and and I don't know I i'm not [TS]

  sure i have the patience for that like I [TS]

  think I'd rather you know it back back [TS]

  when like the whole story with with the [TS]

  founding of apple computer and [TS]

  everything how you know they're i think [TS]

  i think it was Steve Jobs theory about [TS]

  how there were or actually maybe it was [TS]

  Bill Gates theory and I think about it [TS]

  that they were all these hardware [TS]

  hackers but there were a whole bunch of [TS]

  people who didn't want to assemble a [TS]

  computer themselves from from parts or [TS]

  from electrical components and you just [TS]

  want to mess around software who just [TS]

  want to like use the computer on and [TS]

  that's kind of how i feel about about [TS]

  messing with car hardware to like I [TS]

  don't when I get my car's I I don't want [TS]

  to modify them i don't want to work on [TS]

  them [TS]

  I don't want any access to the inner [TS]

  workings really i just i just want to [TS]

  use that I just want to enjoy them [TS]

  working and I don't really want to [TS]

  invest the time into doing anything more [TS]

  with the hardware wise is that roughly [TS]

  how you guys feel you know [TS]

  it's funny my dad actually he had he [TS]

  works for IBM now but had this kind of [TS]

  weird way of ending up there and there [TS]

  was a couple years when he was pretty [TS]

  young that he was a professional [TS]

  mechanic for buick and so seven a lot of [TS]

  work it [TS]

  y-you oh my god he had exactly those [TS]

  lots of space to work in those cars [TS]

  well it's funny you say that because I i [TS]

  know you say that slightly jokingly but [TS]

  that's actually legitimately true and so [TS]

  to this day he has a 1970 dodge dart [TS]

  swinger 340 that he's bored and stroked [TS]

  and i want to say it's like 406 cubes [TS]

  now and he basically rebuilt that motor [TS]

  from the block up in before that car he [TS]

  had a 1977 corvette that had for all [TS]

  intents and purposes been my only older [TS]

  sibling on the eldest of three boys and [TS]

  that car was basically my older brother [TS]

  or sister depending on how you look at [TS]

  it and at one point he had actually [TS]

  totaled the car and then rebuilt it from [TS]

  the frame-up and this was when i was [TS]

  like 10 so this was what early nineties [TS]

  and at that point especially in New York [TS]

  that was a fairly rare in odd thing for [TS]

  a person to rebuild a car from the frame [TS]

  up and he is a bit my dad is a very good [TS]

  mechanic he is uncanny at diagnosing [TS]

  mechanical issues and I got none of [TS]

  those jeans and so too [TS]

  in short Marco I i mostly feel the same [TS]

  way you do I feel like I understand a [TS]

  lot in theory although we've gotten a [TS]

  lot of feedback that that tells me I'm [TS]

  wrong and that I know nothing but in [TS]

  application i unequivocally no [TS]

  absolutely zilch [TS]

  now John I imagine you could fix cars in [TS]

  your driveway but if you did fix car [TS]

  driver they would end up with a lot of [TS]

  small holes in the engine block is that [TS]

  is that roughly how that would go and i [TS]

  have I come from a similar background [TS]

  caseyville maybe not so much my father [TS]

  my my grandfather was heavily into cars [TS]

  that remember every time I went over to [TS]

  my grandfather's house he had his car [TS]

  parked in our driveway with the hood [TS]

  open it was doing something to it like [TS]

  this is it was constantly monkeying [TS]

  around with his car but it's not that I [TS]

  didn't get those jeans like when i was a [TS]

  kid i made real control cars which is [TS]

  you know like that the training wheels [TS]

  version of a big car that's pretty cool [TS]

  and yet but those you know but as I [TS]

  guess they get bigger [TS]

  I viewed as i went to adult that I've [TS]

  used cars the same way that we probably [TS]

  now have you someone who has a boat it's [TS]

  like a giant pit where you shove money [TS]

  like because they're they're just so [TS]

  expensive and you can spend unlimited [TS]

  money on car stuff you know no matter no [TS]

  matter what you the every part of a car [TS]

  can be tremendously expensive and where [TS]

  you know it's not that's not where the [TS]

  the pit that water money to go down the [TS]

  pit that I wanted my mind to go down [TS]

  head like cpus in it and ram which the [TS]

  different that you can shove money into [TS]

  which is also almost as deep but way [TS]

  less money though I don't know [TS]

  well I really depends on what you do [TS]

  because some people some people have a [TS]

  complete complete all consumed hobby was [TS]

  messin with their cars and it does not [TS]

  cross more than our copies are happy [TS]

  buying you know iPads and computers and [TS]

  data plans for our cell phones and stuff [TS]

  but i really like you know i have used [TS]

  cars transportation and I didn't want to [TS]

  be messing with something that also had [TS]

  to serve you know because I can mess [TS]

  with my computer I screw up my computer [TS]

  so what right it's not a big deal i got [TS]

  her own computer that I don't screw with [TS]

  and everything's fine but if I was [TS]

  messing with the cards like all you you [TS]

  know one of the cars out of commission [TS]

  because i'm not changing the head gasket [TS]

  like well you know I needed that car an [TS]

  outside you know I don't wanna mess with [TS]

  the type of thing that it doesn't have a [TS]

  lower there's a lot of like expensive [TS]

  hobbies and i can imagine myself being [TS]

  into if I wasn't already into so many [TS]

  other expensive hobbies and [TS]

  time-consuming to ya mate and also i [TS]

  think i think it a little bit has to do [TS]

  with the weather because if you don't [TS]

  have a big kind of heated indoor garage [TS]

  to mess with your car car messing with [TS]

  season is much shorter in New England [TS]

  you know because you're not going to be [TS]

  out there in the middle of februari [TS]

  deciding that now is the time to change [TS]

  your own timing belt because that's just [TS]

  no fun that's really a decent segue into [TS]

  I want to talk about having multiple [TS]

  cars and this is this is kind of a this [TS]

  could be a big topic I don't know but so [TS]

  so for for my entire adult life until [TS]

  last year i only had one car at a time [TS]

  and it was it was fine or zero car so [TS]

  depending on what time it was [TS]

  and last year I i bought the 1m and I [TS]

  got it I I was kind of thinking you know [TS]

  maybe I maybe I want a fun car because I [TS]

  was like I was right in the middle of my [TS]

  328 least my 328 with the family car and [TS]

  I was and you know it was it wasn't [TS]

  quite as fast as I wanted to be and I i [TS]

  was interested in the idea of having [TS]

  like a small 2-door zip-around car [TS]

  because most of the driving i do is [TS]

  running local errands by myself usually [TS]

  like I'll go out and get lunch everyday [TS]

  or most days I do most of the grocery [TS]

  shopping [TS]

  my wife stays home with the baby and and [TS]

  does house stuff so I'm doing most of [TS]

  the driving by myself so I thought it'd [TS]

  be nice to have a little fun car but at [TS]

  the same time I also need a family car [TS]

  that I like to drive because on family [TS]

  trips i'm using the driver because [TS]

  that's what I like so I didn't want to [TS]

  just have tips car be a family car one [TS]

  that I could drive my car was also [TS]

  bigger so it's better as a family car [TS]

  anyway and it's better all-wheel drive [TS]

  and everything else and doesn't have the [TS]

  lexus touchscreen which I hate [TS]

  so I got the idea in my head [TS]

  oh maybe I'll start looking for like a [TS]

  like a 135 and and then of course are [TS]

  looking at the 1m as a as a possible [TS]

  like reach and i was looking at listings [TS]

  for for a probably a good six months and [TS]

  I I eventually found one that I thought [TS]

  was a fantastic deal and jumped on it [TS]

  and it was but you know having so now i [TS]

  have i have two cars that are mine and [TS]

  one cards my wife's and this is not that [TS]

  I recognize this is a tremendous you [TS]

  know first world problems / white wine [TS]

  this is it this is obviously you know [TS]

  not not a problem per se but there are a [TS]

  lot of annoyances about having multiple [TS]

  cars and so you know and it's kinda like [TS]

  having multiple computers in in this in [TS]

  a lot of sense is actually so are you [TS]

  know that the most obvious problem with [TS]

  having multiple cars is where do you [TS]

  store them where do you put them if you [TS]

  have a garage do you have enough space [TS]

  in your garage for for all your cars or [TS]

  do some of them have to live outside of [TS]

  the garage or in the same thing if you [TS]

  have a driveway energy enough space to [TS]

  park one this [TS]

  if you don't have a garage or driveway [TS]

  and you need to park all of your cars in [TS]

  the street is there enough space on the [TS]

  street and if you have to move your car [TS]

  like once a week for street cleaning or [TS]

  something like that [TS]

  do you want to have to move two cars he [TS]

  really does basically i I've never [TS]

  really loved the idea of having like a [TS]

  driveway full of cars could and then [TS]

  like you know what happens when you want [TS]

  to take one out you got you know you [TS]

  gotta move car a two-car be in or out of [TS]

  the driveway or the garage and [TS]

  everybody's moving cars so it's annoying [TS]

  so for us we have our driveways two cars [TS]

  wide and we have a two-car garage and a [TS]

  fairly small one at that [TS]

  but because it's an old house it's not [TS]

  like the new house where a two-car [TS]

  garage was pretty much like a two-car + [TS]

  17 motorcycle garage they have a lot of [TS]

  free space ours is not that side so [TS]

  we're doing the car stuff all the time [TS]

  now it and that's that's pretty annoying [TS]

  there's also like other small things [TS]

  there's you know there's multiple [TS]

  registrations multiple licenses to deal [TS]

  with multiple inspections you have to [TS]

  get every couple of years i have to have [TS]

  different easy passes for the different [TS]

  cars we had and like little things you [TS]

  have different ice scrapers for hey [TS]

  let's give a nice great british car i [TS]

  have to have you know like I my I don't [TS]

  keep that much in my car generally [TS]

  speaking for like creature comfort stuff [TS]

  I basically keep attend of altoids and a [TS]

  little bottle of some kind of hand [TS]

  sanitizer so if I pump gas in my hand [TS]

  smells like the crappy gas pump smell [TS]

  then i can i can squirt it on my hand [TS]

  and have it not smell so then like that [TS]

  that's two things have to keep stocked [TS]

  in both cars so i have to have you know [TS]

  like my gas and liquid and my Altoids [TS]

  keeping keep stocked in both cars like [TS]

  it's a little annoying things like that [TS]

  and there's always like there's the oh [TS]

  that's in the other car syndrome which [TS]

  is very anybody with the anybody with [TS]

  multiple computers always know that that [TS]

  files on my other computer you know it's [TS]

  like that same thing with cars like if [TS]

  you have something in the trunk grocery [TS]

  bags or you know stuff like that you [TS]

  know stuff for the baby you know [TS]

  whatever it is [TS]

  oh I i think i have that thing in my [TS]

  trunk and you go to the grocery store [TS]

  and yours are all my bags or anything [TS]

  car but there's there's little things [TS]

  like that that that build up and get [TS]

  pretty annoying and there's also like [TS]

  more hot me no more noise things like [TS]

  you have multiple maintenance schedules [TS]

  for the cars when you have multiple cars [TS]

  there's there's more of a chance that [TS]

  any given time . something's going to go [TS]

  wrong on one of them you know or [TS]

  something or something is going to need [TS]

  maintenance so you end up spending more [TS]

  time getting your car maintain or doing [TS]

  it yourself so there's there's all these [TS]

  quite significant costs in in either [TS]

  money or time or annoyance in having [TS]

  multiple cars so I've decided that my [TS]

  next car that I get which I guess we'll [TS]

  talk about shortly my next car i get i [TS]

  I've decided to consolidate and i'm [TS]

  probably going to sell the 1m this [TS]

  summer and consolidate into you know [TS]

  rather than having a rather than having [TS]

  one big car and one fun car i'd rather [TS]

  just have one big fun car so i know what [TS]

  you guys think about having his case you [TS]

  you still have you got your like 17 [TS]

  white super in your driveway right yeah [TS]

  I do have one and only one white super [TS]

  in my driveway so really quickly the the [TS]

  story there is that like I have not [TS]

  talked about ad nauseam [TS]

  you know I found this 335 pounced on it [TS]

  fairly quickly and it was a internet [TS]

  dealer in the sense that they didn't [TS]

  really have a showroom it wasn't a BMW [TS]

  dealer it was just a kind of a few guys [TS]

  in some warehouse outside philly that's [TS]

  not sandwiches at all it's in all my [TS]

  Connie was so sketchy driving up to it [TS]

  but actually they had unbelievable cars [TS]

  there in any case and then they were BMW [TS]

  concentrated but regardless of that we [TS]

  did that whole deal without involving [TS]

  the subaru at all and so the subaru has [TS]

  been sitting out front waiting to get [TS]

  sold to like a climax or some other [TS]

  dealer since sep tember or somesuch and [TS]

  I there have been times that I could [TS]

  justifiably teaches taking the subaru [TS]

  over the BMW like for example it snowing [TS]

  like if it's snowing because I've summer [TS]

  tires on the [TS]

  when that all joking aside that's it's [TS]

  pretty dangerous being out in more than [TS]

  a quarter inch of snow in summer tires [TS]

  or even in the cold for that matter and [TS]

  yet I cannot find a reason to get behind [TS]

  the wheel the subaru it's not that I [TS]

  don't like the car I mean I do like it [TS]

  but it's not it's not my new car it's [TS]

  not it's not the thing that I really [TS]

  really enjoy driving and so out of pure [TS]

  laziness temporary laziness and [TS]

  procrastination the super is still [TS]

  sitting out there or maybe it's just [TS]

  because I really subconsciously enjoy [TS]

  you guys making fun of me I don't know [TS]

  but it's still sitting out in the [TS]

  driveway now the advantage that we have [TS]

  is that our driveways just barely big [TS]

  enough to be able to squeeze are two [TS]

  cars in and out without having to move [TS]

  the subaru and I know that your driveway [TS]

  like you had said is not like that but [TS]

  regardless it's sitting out there [TS]

  waiting for me to clean it up and then [TS]

  just go give it to a dealer and sell it [TS]

  and i'm just lazy and I there's no [TS]

  reason for it being there and I want to [TS]

  get rid of it so if you if you happen to [TS]

  live in richmond virginia and want a [TS]

  white super let me know now it's a [TS]

  famous white super now it's the same as [TS]

  e kc list your dad for so long to write [TS]

  something like that [TS]

  John what do you think I mean you know [TS]

  you and your wife both have cars do you [TS]

  have any of these problems with just [TS]

  like the practicalities of having [TS]

  multiple cars you know when you're [TS]

  talking about multiple cars the only [TS]

  thing I can think of is that you can [TS]

  replay the transcript of the audio from [TS]

  that segment and replace car with child [TS]

  because almost all the things are [TS]

  analogous like especially like the ones [TS]

  with like you know one thing going to [TS]

  shop there are different service [TS]

  intervals one is second i'm not going to [TS]

  one is in kindergarten was still you [TS]

  know in daycare or preschool and yeah [TS]

  it's a it's good training but yet so we [TS]

  had multiple cars & R R it's kind of [TS]

  like it's because you're used to you are [TS]

  used to not having multiple cars that [TS]

  all this is weird because we're kind of [TS]

  used to having multiple ones and the [TS]

  things we do to deal with it are not [TS]

  solutions for you is just kind of like [TS]

  that's like your problems are solutions [TS]

  so for example up are we have a driveway [TS]

  it did if it's two cars on it one behind [TS]

  the other two small relatively small [TS]

  cars will be on the other and in one [TS]

  tiny little carriage sighs garages that [TS]

  the cars almost never in [TS]

  because it's filled with junk and [TS]

  because we don't have an opener and you [TS]

  know many other reasons i actually [TS]

  showed the civic in it tonight because [TS]

  of the snow but that's pretty much the [TS]

  only time we put the car in there is a [TS]

  if we notice a big snow coming if it [TS]

  helps to be able to shovel and plow as [TS]

  part of the driveway without having the [TS]

  car blocking everything up up but that [TS]

  means basically that you know it's that [TS]

  you can't get the only card you can get [TS]

  out is the one of the end of the [TS]

  driveway and so how do we deal with that [TS]

  but you know we come home at different [TS]

  times stuff like that well we deal with [TS]

  it by you know if someone needs to go [TS]

  out somewhere they take the car that [TS]

  scene at the end of the driveway like [TS]

  that's the solution right you know it's [TS]

  like a witch's which is your car which [TS]

  is your whiskey a stack right yeah i [TS]

  mean the only the only violation of that [TS]

  I'm the one who's constantly trying to [TS]

  cause a violation that rule decided [TS]

  don't just take the car that's the end [TS]

  of the driveway and then I'll volunteer [TS]

  to go out and move the other car because [TS]

  i want if anyone is taking the children [TS]

  i like to stick the accord because this [TS]

  is safer car because it's bigger [TS]

  so then it's a two-person job you both [TS]

  hop in the car you know one person goes [TS]

  in the accord with the kids the other [TS]

  person goes the civic specific backs out [TS]

  of the driveway the cord comes out the [TS]

  silver goes back in right easy pass we [TS]

  just have one of them and we just moved [TS]

  from car to car because we know you know [TS]

  go on toll roads that often when we do [TS]

  we just remember to get the e-zpass same [TS]

  thing with navigation we got one [TS]

  navigation thing we just put them on the [TS]

  cards going to navigation at the time so [TS]

  those are all those annoyances are just [TS]

  like the way we know where we deal with [TS]

  our cars right i would love a [TS]

  side-by-side driver with two cars [TS]

  because that would eliminate a lot of [TS]

  the things because I do i am the one who [TS]

  is always a stickler for like it look at [TS]

  you taking any of the kids take the [TS]

  accord my car doesn't matter was going [TS]

  to start like just take the card and I [TS]

  don't want to move the car move it for [TS]

  you you know you always use that voice [TS]

  when doing it it's it's a constant you [TS]

  know please my wife is not as obsessed [TS]

  with taking the accord when she takes so [TS]

  I'm just taking one kid is like it [TS]

  doesn't matter you know what I mean I [TS]

  like having two cars we've had to cart [TS]

  we had one car we were first married we [TS]

  just had the 92 $YEAR civic and I was [TS]

  just the two of us with no kids and [TS]

  eventually was to us and a dog and I [TS]

  hated having one car because it's like [TS]

  single point of failure for like your [TS]

  whole life [TS]

  shuts down the cars to be in the shop [TS]

  and you know the places he would bring [TS]

  our Civic to we're not giving us free [TS]

  rental cars it's not like a lexus [TS]

  dealership [TS]

  take out the car while we're working in [TS]

  yours not was like well we have your car [TS]

  you can take public transportation back [TS]

  home or you can sit here for hours and [TS]

  wait for it to you so that was always [TS]

  problematic right and as that car age [TS]

  shows like boy I just I can't we adopt [TS]

  it now having two cars like all you know [TS]

  it's it's a miracle we can still have a [TS]

  functioning life and run errands is [TS]

  level 1 cars in the shop so I enjoy it [TS]

  and to that end we well now the BMW has [TS]

  navigation but the super did not and so [TS]

  we only have one ez pass because believe [TS]

  it or not easy path stretches all the [TS]

  way as far south as we are and in we [TS]

  would do the same thing John that you do [TS]

  that we would take the e zpass and look [TS]

  into the one car that the two of us are [TS]

  in for a road trip was aware that you [TS]

  can go onto easy passes website and just [TS]

  ask for another transponder and another [TS]

  set of everything ok you'll be eligible [TS]

  for free [TS]

  I think they used to charge money for [TS]

  that's why we didn't do it we should [TS]

  just do it know they are so I could [TS]

  swear that that maybe it's a Virginian [TS]

  thing but I could swear that they're [TS]

  starting to charge money for [TS]

  transponders and developer of things you [TS]

  can get for free just ask you any other [TS]

  things are terrible a museum now they're [TS]

  only awesome the first time you stick [TS]

  them on [TS]

  well yeah if you're single you were if [TS]

  you remove not the sticky part the [TS]

  velcro part it's like super duper mega [TS]

  velcro like wow this is the best work in [TS]

  the world but if you take it off and on [TS]

  and off and on the velcro part several [TS]

  times eventually there goes nope not [TS]

  working anymore [TS]

  yeah actually not made for that I mean [TS]

  that's why that's why I think you should [TS]

  just get a second transponder leave and [TS]

  maybe they'll charge you five bucks I [TS]

  mean it's not gonna be a lot of money [TS]

  that I think it's 123 [TS]

  ya think I think it's like I great [TS]

  getting into the cable box that it's not [TS]

  because i have we now have three e-zpass [TS]

  transponders I can carry it to you it's [TS]

  not monthly and I look at you can time [TS]

  it right all the same credit card the [TS]

  same account it's really nice anyway [TS]

  this episode's sponsored by e-zpass use [TS]

  that fast lane for right now i actually [TS]

  used to be the best switch to Fastlane [TS]

  we keep going back and forth because it [TS]

  was a hassle we had easy pass for a [TS]

  while and my parents lived in New York [TS]

  because I cable will get e-zpass when we [TS]

  can use in both places and I think maybe [TS]

  Fastlane wasn't using both places back [TS]

  then or something but then we kept [TS]

  getting the thing where they would send [TS]

  us a ticket in the mail because the [TS]

  transponder didn't work and they got a [TS]

  little picture your license plate and [TS]

  got to prove to them that uh you know [TS]

  the biggest Fastlane didn't have a [TS]

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  fast lane was Massachusetts an easy [TS]

  password in New York and so you'd have [TS]

  to write the e-zpass and get them to [TS]

  prove the fast lane that we have a [TS]

  transponder and it's just a big mess so [TS]

  I think we're back on fast lane to [TS]

  remember but yeah they need to get their [TS]

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  probably worth twelve dollars you're not [TS]

  going to have the annoyance but it's [TS]

  like the principal you know that i'm [TS]

  driving right exactly in to be honest we [TS]

  so rarely need an e-zpass that it's we [TS]

  almost never use it anyway [TS]

  yeah I don't like it being stuck on the [TS]

  window i think it's an aesthetic I sorry [TS]

  don't around the window what you do it [TS]

  once you put it in in the visual shadow [TS]

  behind the mirror so that you put this [TS]

  on the driver can't see it at all [TS]

  some mirrors don't allow that depending [TS]

  on how they're attached but we keep ours [TS]

  in the glove box that is it's our system [TS]

  same here and then we all have the same [TS]

  dance with the Valentine one as well [TS]

  which by the way we can't put up until [TS]

  we leave Virginia but that's a whole [TS]

  other story [TS]

  whatever anyway so Marco what car you [TS]

  buying to fix all your woes [TS]

  well before we get to that I was [TS]

  thinking about trying the ad read myself [TS]

  this week [TS]

  what do you think should i should i [TS]

  attempt or John to you i do not want to [TS]

  be funny . you can give it a go and if [TS]

  it doesn't work you can tap your wife [TS]

  sounds in a pro k alright so this [TS]

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  tumblr and and many other things like [TS]

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  something like Squarespace is way better [TS]

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  that tumblr is really more like the [TS]

  social posting interaction stuff like [TS]

  that Squarespace is made for here's a [TS]

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  we have a podcast there they will [TS]

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  awesome okay so I like Squarespace a lot [TS]

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  the CSS a little bit just because this [TS]

  tweet couple of things I didn't care for [TS]

  about the theme but you don't even have [TS]

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  look at all this at all right haha so so [TS]

  you know I was saying you know I so my [TS]

  least for the 3-series up in a few [TS]

  months I've said before i got to pick [TS]

  something else and so my options are i [TS]

  mean not technically don't have to be [TS]

  something else i could buy the 3-series [TS]

  at the end of the lease and the fact [TS]

  that was actually a tempting idea [TS]

  actually because [TS]

  I'm very happy with the car i like it a [TS]

  lot 328 is an awesome car and there's a [TS]

  few things about that are annoying so [TS]

  one the whole reason that my wife has to [TS]

  have her own cars because she doesn't [TS]

  really drive stick and well that's [TS]

  that's the primary means of the reason [TS]

  but that's the primary reason and so [TS]

  it's annoying like you for taking a long [TS]

  car trip with my car and my car use is [TS]

  usually the one that we take long trips [TS]

  with we're taking a long trip it is [TS]

  annoying that she can't really help with [TS]

  the driving and at the same time I don't [TS]

  want to give up a stick so the car was [TS]

  looking at for the most part is the [TS]

  5-series and you know syracuse of [TS]

  alluded to this earlier the 3-series is [TS]

  very very good [TS]

  I i would like a little bit more rear [TS]

  legroom which helps a lot with car seats [TS]

  if you put a car seat especially a [TS]

  rear-facing car seat when you have a [TS]

  really young kid and we are planning on [TS]

  one probably trying to have one more [TS]

  kids so and that'll probably happen [TS]

  during the next Carly's so so we're [TS]

  thinking you know if we're going to car [TS]

  seats in the back a little bit more leg [TS]

  room in the back would be very helpful [TS]

  in the front passenger's don't screw [TS]

  their seats all the way up in the car [TS]

  seats back there so a little bit more [TS]

  rear legroom and more trunk space would [TS]

  also be very welcome [TS]

  because as everyone knows kids come with [TS]

  lots of stuff and even adults come with [TS]

  lots of stuff so it would be nice to [TS]

  have a little bit more trunk space and [TS]

  that said we don't know i don't think we [TS]

  need to go to like a van or an SUV [TS]

  because 328 has served us very well for [TS]

  this time we've had we've had we had our [TS]

  first kid and he's now nine months old [TS]

  and we've had the 328 this whole time [TS]

  and it's been enough oftentimes not with [TS]

  the whole lot of room to spare but it [TS]

  has been enough so I don't think we need [TS]

  to go like to a massively differently [TS]

  shaped car or anything [TS]

  some people do when they have kids it's [TS]

  it doesn't really our last value doesn't [TS]

  really need that you know we don't bring [TS]

  that much stuff with us and maybe that [TS]

  will change in the future who knows but [TS]

  for now being nine months into kid one I [TS]

  i think we'll be fine with with sedans [TS]

  for for the foreseeable future [TS]

  for the most part so I'm looking at the [TS]

  $YEAR 5 series the five series has an [TS]

  annoying limitation though you can't get [TS]

  both all-wheel drive and a stick all the [TS]

  drives in the 5-series have have [TS]

  automatic transmissions only and so I [TS]

  was a little bummed about this for a [TS]

  while but I drove one and it's actually [TS]

  really good it's aight i gotta say you [TS]

  know as I had as i talked at length in [TS]

  episode 2 about bs manual modes and [TS]

  automatics the BMW quote sport automatic [TS]

  making air quotes with my fingers the [TS]

  sport management mission is actually [TS]

  really good it the it's it's fairly [TS]

  responsive it is fairly sporty you know [TS]

  how you can like set and software to be [TS]

  sporty or not and everything it's it's [TS]

  pretty good at I could be very happy [TS]

  with that student so I could be very [TS]

  happy with that but I yeah otherwise you [TS]

  know the car the $YEAR 5 series is [TS]

  grateful it's a little expensive [TS]

  well that's an understatement it's a [TS]

  pretty expensive car but otherwise it's [TS]

  a fantastic car has lots of good options [TS]

  but then I got the rocket the 1m and the [TS]

  1m gave me a taste of what M cars are [TS]

  like so naturally I thought well I've [TS]

  always joked about wanting an m5 let me [TS]

  go test drive one just to see you know [TS]

  and because i was looking at probably [TS]

  the 550 as the as the most likely car [TS]

  pics won't let me go to 75 had this this [TS]

  was an experience that I just could not [TS]

  believe because here here's how this [TS]

  goes you now you know I described an [TS]

  earlier episode about how I i took the [TS]

  the toyota mr2 for a test drive when I [TS]

  was like 19 and it was like the thrill [TS]

  of my year that year I was always the [TS]

  guy who would go into the car dealership [TS]

  and go just like just days at the like [TS]

  high-end sports car that they had [TS]

  sitting in the showroom and you know [TS]

  that was like nobody would was allowed [TS]

  to really test drive that they would [TS]

  never take it out of the showroom I kind [TS]

  of felt like self-conscious and like I [TS]

  didn't even belong there even just like [TS]

  looking at our opening the door [TS]

  sitting in it like that would make me [TS]

  feel self-conscious have you guys had [TS]

  that experience [TS]

  yeah definitely i never go into [TS]

  expensive car transmission so and even [TS]

  just like like a year ago when we were [TS]

  worth almost two years ago now when we [TS]

  were looking for tips car one of the car [TS]

  she was looking at as it was the audi a3 [TS]

  and I remember going to a dealership and [TS]

  then there's the r8 sitting there just [TS]

  like 130 hundred forty thousand dollar [TS]

  car something like that really expensive [TS]

  high-end audi sports car and I remember [TS]

  like I was afraid like they had like a [TS]

  little velvet ropes around the ra like [TS]

  you couldn't even go near it [TS]

  like I was afraid to even get too close [TS]

  to it and look in the window and look at [TS]

  the controls and the dash and everything [TS]

  you know to say that's a really quickly [TS]

  interrupt every time i go and look at a [TS]

  really nice car which typically is only [TS]

  because I happen to be in the dealer for [TS]

  some other reason so typically that [TS]

  means a BMW i always make a point of if [TS]

  I'm wearing a coat grabbing my if it's [TS]

  not zipped up hey grab it grab the [TS]

  zipper just hold them behind my body i [TS]

  did that and or if it's summertime make [TS]

  sure if i might sunglasses like dangling [TS]

  off my t-shirt or polo shirt or whatever [TS]

  grabbing onto them to show dude i'm [TS]

  being respectful don't worry I'm not [TS]

  gonna screw up your car [TS]

  yeah so I I totally hear you like and [TS]

  like sometimes like if if they're [TS]

  actually accessible to get that close to [TS]

  if they don't have velvet ropes like out [TS]

  like if I sit in the car I won't put my [TS]

  feet and I'll just like put my butt on [TS]

  the seat with my feet still out the door [TS]

  you know yeah I know what you said but [TS]

  it's so anyway so that was that was like [TS]

  a year and a half ago that i saw the r8 [TS]

  went and you know what kind of afraid to [TS]

  go near it [TS]

  well I'd expressed interest in the [TS]

  intestine having an m5 too much to the [TS]

  dealer i go to and I'd already tested in [TS]

  the 550 with them so that they knew that [TS]

  I was I was serious about it and so my [TS]

  guy calls me up a few months ago my guy [TS]

  at the dealership and he says hey we [TS]

  just got an m5 been so it you know you [TS]

  want to come in like today and yeah but [TS]

  you know who would say no to that I [TS]

  guess I've got a corporate stooge shot [TS]

  i mean hell even syracuse would say yes [TS]

  to that yeah i think both of us would [TS]

  absolutely say yes to that so I thought [TS]

  all right let me go test drive this [TS]

  thing and a strike is the 550 still [TS]

  there because i would like to do is a [TS]

  test drive back to back you know just [TS]

  because you know that the cars get the [TS]

  change in your mind like if you're [TS]

  trying to compare two cars he ideal you [TS]

  want to get back to back so you can have [TS]

  have the other test drive fresh in your [TS]

  mind when you do want to do the next one [TS]

  so this is perfect perfect so I go down [TS]

  there now you know havent having come [TS]

  from my my modest background and having [TS]

  always admired cars it was amazing that [TS]

  i showed up the car dealer and the m5 is [TS]

  not is not on a lot [TS]

  no it's in the showroom behind on m6r [TS]

  know behind a a was a 650 and so I get [TS]

  there they open the doors to the [TS]

  showroom and they take the 75 that was [TS]

  this car that I would be the one you [TS]

  know gazing at longing for thinking I [TS]

  could never have they drive the EMSA or [TS]

  the 650 out and they pull out the m5 out [TS]

  of the showroom for me to drive that has [TS]

  got to be the most surreal feeling in [TS]

  the world and i would also feel like [TS]

  such a tool and i don't mean that a [TS]

  jerky way I mean I would almost be [TS]

  embarrassed to be causing all this [TS]

  ruckus even though you had a perfectly [TS]

  legitimate reason to do so I want in [TS]

  fact you were invited to do that but I [TS]

  would be so embarrassed by it i was very [TS]

  self-conscious I mean the good thing is [TS]

  it was like a weekday afternoon so there [TS]

  was nobody else really there if you know [TS]

  if if it was like a Saturday ethnic was [TS]

  like a show room full of people I would [TS]

  have felt like a dick like I would have [TS]

  felt really self-conscious about that [TS]

  so anyway so they put this ridiculous [TS]

  Cocker up for me to test drive even they [TS]

  knew that I wasn't planning on buying [TS]

  one anytime soon and possibly at all [TS]

  fours you know so that all right so I [TS]

  did the m5 first and then you're [TS]

  starting the m5 and I was going to 550 [TS]

  when I got back with it and the m5 just [TS]

  a ridiculous car i mean it is [TS]

  I previously driven one at that at the [TS]

  the race day thing but that was like [TS]

  with her racing helmet on on track for [TS]

  15 minutes so it wasn't wasn't like a [TS]

  whole lot of experience with it was [TS]

  nothing like driving on the road so this [TS]

  one I actually I didn't really ask until [TS]

  we were already in the car and I'll ok [TS]

  can we take this on the highway just you [TS]

  know a good 15 miles and they don't like [TS]

  this was explained to me they don't even [TS]

  get to test driving themselves like when [TS]

  it was super high-end car comes in like [TS]

  that [TS]

  generally people who are going to buy an [TS]

  m5 don't want a whole lot of miles on it [TS]

  from people taking test drives so they [TS]

  will only let quote qualified buyers but [TS]

  even test drive the car so apparently [TS]

  myself going to go as manager and get [TS]

  permission for this and what got him [TS]

  permission to let me test drive it was [TS]

  he told me I had a one end and he's like [TS]

  okay well that's it [TS]

  if you have one and obviously you're [TS]

  you're serious and a pipe that you might [TS]

  really be considering an m5 it's just [TS]

  all you spend all your money on the one [TS]

  that is every penny I have the world so [TS]

  anyway that was apparently enough to [TS]

  qualify so so yes sir i'm taking it out [TS]

  and like the salesman has never even [TS]

  been in this car he's never driven it he [TS]

  wasn't even allowed to drive on my test [TS]

  drive i just really trying to deal with [TS]

  them okay you know i was driving for 10 [TS]

  minutes of a give you a good price upon [TS]

  but so anyway so we take this thing out [TS]

  and he is just as amazed as I am during [TS]

  the ride because you know it's just as [TS]

  new to him and so that felt amazing i [TS]

  mean i really felt like I was king of [TS]

  the world that day I it was ridiculous [TS]

  so I Drive the m5 on the highway and [TS]

  back all throughout the local roads and [TS]

  everything and it's a fantastic car I [TS]

  mean compared to the one and it's [TS]

  extraordinarily different i don't know [TS]

  how much our listeners actually care [TS]

  about the the minutiae of those [TS]

  differences but it is it is just as fun [TS]

  just as fast if it is a much bigger and [TS]

  heavier car of course but it is an [TS]

  amazing car and it has way more luxury [TS]

  features and that's saying a lot as the [TS]

  one and is a pretty luxurious car [TS]

  actually it's almost all the features of [TS]

  three series so it's a it's a pretty [TS]

  it's a pretty great bard to be but the [TS]

  m5 no question was a better car for [TS]

  foremost [TS]

  purposes and so I end and it was also [TS]

  way easier to keep traction and you know [TS]

  the 1m is a really overpowered car its [TS]

  it is very very easy to lose grip on the [TS]

  rear tires in the 1m when you don't even [TS]

  mean to and with the m5 it just felt way [TS]

  more controlled when it did lose grip it [TS]

  it uh recovered way faster and you know [TS]

  it's it's a much bigger heavier and more [TS]

  refined car so okay then i get back and [TS]

  I think oh my god this car is ridiculous [TS]

  then I take the test drive in the 550 [TS]

  where 550 by all means is the more [TS]

  sensible car mostly for my purposes [TS]

  because it's all-wheel drive and as we [TS]

  talked about before I like I'll Drive a [TS]

  lot so I Drive the 550 right after [TS]

  having the m5 and honestly it wasn't [TS]

  that different like that the difference [TS]

  between the two was not nearly as big as [TS]

  i expected it to be and I remember [TS]

  thinking like with a fight like this is [TS]

  this is surprisingly close even some of [TS]

  the things that people think are really [TS]

  big differences like the steering being [TS]

  more more communicative you know you [TS]

  feel more of the road feel with the [TS]

  hydraulic system in the m5 vs the [TS]

  electric power system and in the [TS]

  5-series all these things that people [TS]

  cited as major things they weren't that [TS]

  major when i was driving it wasn't that [TS]

  big of a difference it was a noticeable [TS]

  difference but it wasn't as big as I [TS]

  thought even the dct which I love in the [TS]

  m5 the automatic and the 550 is pretty [TS]

  fast you know it's not a dct and and [TS]

  obviously you know you don't you notice [TS]

  the difference but it's pretty fast so I [TS]

  remember coming out at the end of course [TS]

  the dr feels great so I'm were coming [TS]

  out of thinking I don't want the m5 [TS]

  after all like all this time I've been [TS]

  fantasizing about this car and the 550 [TS]

  is so good that ok you know I i think i [TS]

  can and you know the m5 like the m5 is [TS]

  fantastic car the 550 is a really good [TS]

  car to like so and so I thought you know [TS]

  what is it really worth the loss of [TS]

  all-wheel drive to go at the m5 and [TS]

  communicate you know pay more to but is [TS]

  it really lock worth lots of older [TS]

  I've and and that there's like a few [TS]

  options that you can't get on the 5ft [TS]

  like the the radar cruise control or you [TS]

  can get 15 people . the m5 and the black [TS]

  ceramic control your school [TS]

  syracuse it makes so much fun if you [TS]

  knew what all these things cost so so I [TS]

  came out of there thinking you know what [TS]

  I'd be fine with the 550 and that's true [TS]

  but I ordered the m5 anyway and the main [TS]

  reason why is because the difference [TS]

  that's there even though the 550 is a [TS]

  fantastic car the difference to the m5 [TS]

  is the m5 makes you feel more it the [TS]

  throttle response is very different that [TS]

  the feel of what you know that the [TS]

  gearing is very different like this one [TS]

  thing I really don't like about the new [TS]

  eight-speed automatic is that the second [TS]

  gear is a really weird ratio and [TS]

  coverage range and it doesn't shift the [TS]

  way I want to [TS]

  between second and third like a train [TS]

  that speed range it's weird because they [TS]

  insert another gear there but the m5 is [TS]

  for my purposes i just loved that car I [TS]

  felt something with that car the 550i [TS]

  liked it a lot but I didn't like I [TS]

  didn't love it [TS]

  the m5 makes enough of a different that [TS]

  I loved it and the m5 is is so good that [TS]

  without question when i get the m5 i [TS]

  will be able to sell the 1m and not and [TS]

  not regret having sold it [TS]

  whereas if i get the 550i would regret [TS]

  not having the one and as i discussed [TS]

  earlier i really don't like having [TS]

  multiple cars like for me like we're [TS]

  still going to have a car between me and [TS]

  my wife [TS]

  we're going to cars in total there [TS]

  having two cars fine having three cars I [TS]

  really really don't want everyone to [TS]

  stop having three cars that because that [TS]

  had that ended up being not nearly as [TS]

  fun as I thought it would be so my next [TS]

  car will be an m5 and i'm going to pick [TS]

  it up in Germany with casey on April [TS]

  second i am extremely excited to live [TS]

  vicariously through you and [TS]

  actually so it's funny because Marco had [TS]

  said Marko and tiff both had said to [TS]

  Aaron and I a long time ago yeah we [TS]

  should all whatever whatever we get next [TS]

  to european delivery and and we should [TS]

  all go and it'll be fun and so Aaron and [TS]

  I kind of always thought oh they're [TS]

  there they're very nice people they're [TS]

  probably just saying that they're not [TS]

  they're not gonna want to take us along [TS]

  and so then a few months ago Marco start [TS]

  stalking me a lot about to get the 550 [TS]

  check out the m5 not to say that I [TS]

  necessarily influence market all but we [TS]

  start talking about it a lot and what [TS]

  are the pros and the cons and then he [TS]

  said well you know you're here where [TS]

  you're going right you're still you and [TS]

  your silly right oh yeah sure whatever [TS]

  well then you know Marco says something [TS]

  to the effect of well I place the order [TS]

  so when are you guys available and [TS]

  that's when I realized holy God we're [TS]

  gonna go live vicariously through [TS]

  marketing and i am very very excited for [TS]

  it [TS]

  so if all things worked out well this [TS]

  should be fun and it's funny to me [TS]

  because I didn't want to ruin things [TS]

  when you were talking about winter tires [TS]

  and other countries but we I know [TS]

  exactly why you know about winter tires [TS]

  and other countries and it's because of [TS]

  this very trip yeah and and I should [TS]

  point out also this trip is also one of [TS]

  the factors that let us consider that [TS]

  led me to decide on the m5 because i [TS]

  thought you know we're not planning on [TS]

  going to Germany every three years for [TS]

  pickup for like a week long trip to go [TS]

  pick up our new lease like that it's so [TS]

  this is this is probably going to be a [TS]

  regular occurrence so you know this is [TS]

  like we're taking a big trip going to be [TS]

  there for like a week and be there with [TS]

  you guys are friends and we're gonna be [TS]

  driving a brand-new BMW across Europe [TS]

  what happened like that that to me is so [TS]

  much cooler if it's an m5 and click that [TS]

  you can't drive it across the ocean you [TS]

  know I don't know what they told you the [TS]

  BMW dealership haha [TS]

  there's no partnership between the [TS]

  University the jet skis don't come out [TS]

  the pontoons don't come out the side [TS]

  gate will have to stop can you get ski [TS]

  tires [TS]

  well you could do the the james bond [TS]

  thing like the lotus oh yeah a [TS]

  little-little dive planes come out the [TS]

  side windows roll under it has enough [TS]

  horsepower that's true well the [TS]

  interesting thing is what what John [TS]

  doesn't realize is that marker when I [TS]

  have signed him up for all of us to meet [TS]

  the m5 [TS]

  it arrives in the states in Spartanburg [TS]

  or spartansburg always forget there's an [TS]

  S they're not at the BMW factoring in [TS]

  the in America so the three of us can go [TS]

  mooning around on the BMW factory track [TS]

  granted you can take the m5 on the [TS]

  factory track but we can go visit the [TS]

  factory and enact like 12 year olds or [TS]

  if I guess sixteen-year-olds and so John [TS]

  you you have been volunteered for that [TS]

  in the same way that that Aaron and I [TS]

  were volunteered to go pick up the car [TS]

  wasn't supposed to happen [TS]

  I guess two months after i'll be like [TS]

  reason [TS]

  yeah yeah somebody wanted everything so [TS]

  I was about to say when we're all in WWE [TS]

  battling loops it but we'll just hold [TS]

  the car there indefinitely quick so yeah [TS]

  so that's that's what i'm doing and [TS]

  that's and the all-wheel-drive decision [TS]

  was was the hardest decision if if they [TS]

  made an m5 with all-wheel drive it [TS]

  wouldn't have even been a consideration [TS]

  not together I mean that i would have [TS]

  gone for that in a heartbeat but losing [TS]

  level drive [TS]

  i I really don't like that however I [TS]

  feel so good about the rest of the car [TS]

  that I'm willing to lose that and and [TS]

  one of the things that helps is is that [TS]

  my wife's car has all the driver you [TS]

  know as we discussed last episode you [TS]

  know because we're you know both of us [TS]

  don't need to go anywhere everyday we [TS]

  usually were traveling together that is [TS]

  there's very rare times we're taking [TS]

  separate cars somewhere so it will be [TS]

  perfectly fine if her car has all-wheel [TS]

  drive and good good snow handling and my [TS]

  car gets to be parked for the a few days [TS]

  a year where even a good pair of winter [TS]

  tires wouldn't be a good idea with with [TS]

  a rear-wheel-drive car really where you [TS]

  know where I live there really aren't [TS]

  that many days every year where there's [TS]

  there's actively like snow on the roads [TS]

  it hasn't all been cleared away by plows [TS]

  and salt and so I really think of that [TS]

  will all be fine for most the time and [TS]

  her car right now her her I at her Lexus [TS]

  IS which i would not recommend getting [TS]

  pretty sure she wouldn't recommend [TS]

  either but her alexis is is not a [TS]

  fantastic car but it works for a while [TS]

  when the lease for that is up [TS]

  we actually saw just just today at BWW [TS]

  officially announced the the 3-series GT [TS]

  have you seen this [TS]

  yeah it's a car without a purpose John [TS]

  have you seen that I have not i'm [TS]

  googling for it [TS]

  I it's I don't understand BMWs GT cars [TS]

  and candidly I don't understand the [TS]

  whole four-door coupe thing and I can't [TS]

  remember what Mercedes did this i want [TS]

  to i feel like it was first I'm probably [TS]

  wrong don't email me but it's like the [TS]

  big shooting brake like swoop be i just [TS]

  i don't really care i'm looking at it [TS]

  now I don't like it either did not like [TS]

  it at all [TS]

  I don't think I like the a7 but i do not [TS]

  like this thing to the a7 it here i'll [TS]

  paste the link this is in case you'd [TS]

  because it's different when you have [TS]

  full of good pictures on and I I should [TS]

  be clear I think the BMW 5 Series GT is [TS]

  an abomination [TS]

  i I don't know what they were thinking [TS]

  with the 5 Series GT you know BMW is not [TS]

  perfect date they make a lot of weird [TS]

  moves just like everyone else and [TS]

  there's a lot of a lot of stuff i don't [TS]

  like the 3-series GT is a car that I [TS]

  would never choose for myself [TS]

  however for the purposes of my wife's [TS]

  car [TS]

  I think it's actually perfect i mean i [TS]

  haven't seen one yet haven't haven't set [TS]

  your drivel yet she hasn't driven one [TS]

  yet but it was like we were looking at [TS]

  this page earlier and saying thats [TS]

  that's actually really promising because [TS]

  it has a whole lot of cargo space with [TS]

  him right [TS]

  why am i hearing your skype sounds I [TS]

  don't think it's me all right i got [TS]

  $MONEY so it is a whole lot of cargo [TS]

  space and at the same time it's it's a [TS]

  modified 3-series so and and it still [TS]

  looks like a sedan right like it's still [TS]

  for the most part it's no no no I got [TS]

  across towards looks good judges well [TS]

  that's what I want to see I want to see [TS]

  like you know how like is it is it to [TS]

  lifted like it's kind of hard to tell [TS]

  like is that it's not good [TS]

  so John pasted in the chat a picture a [TS]

  profile picture of the hike and we keep [TS]

  my crap together a picture of the honda [TS]

  crosstour which connects to the three [TS]

  people that own them this is one of the [TS]

  most hideous cars members [TS]

  in my life and it is it is worse than [TS]

  the 3-series GT but I don't know to me [TS]

  that's reasonably resemblance [TS]

  oh yeah there is so there is oh yeah [TS]

  i'll give you that it I just I feel like [TS]

  you're halfway between a wagon and sedan [TS]

  and so your gear compromise you you are [TS]

  the microsoft surface of cars right now [TS]

  so does well it's actually though it's [TS]

  it's bigger than the wagon gets its [TS]

  longer than the wagon and has less [TS]

  usable cargo space doesn't it I'm not [TS]

  only will i have to see it in person did [TS]

  according to the official ratings which [TS]

  of course you know those are mostly [TS]

  worthless the official ratings say it [TS]

  has more you so we'll see that because [TS]

  the 3 series wagon for HS that it's just [TS]

  a 3-series trunk with a higher roof it's [TS]

  not it's not really any longer [TS]

  I don't be right over there or you know [TS]

  it's been a couple inches it doesn't [TS]

  matter [TS]

  so this is actually a longer card it's [TS]

  like it's basically the length of a [TS]

  5-series but with a three series with [TS]

  and you know and a little bit taller of [TS]

  course so I'm curious like if it's too [TS]

  tall then you're right look too much [TS]

  like a like most crossovers that we see [TS]

  that hideous but I I have high hopes for [TS]

  this car i think it might be really [TS]

  perfect because and and of course it'll [TS]

  it'll come out with xDrive this fall so [TS]

  right before the winter but that i'll [TS]

  have the m5 this up so we'll see i think [TS]

  this this car I I have high hopes it [TS]

  might end up sucking I hope it doesn't [TS]

  end up sucking but I really think this [TS]

  could be my wife next car and I would be [TS]

  very happy driving it for long trips and [TS]

  stuff in the winter [TS]

  did you look closely at this page on f30 [TS]

  posts that you put the chat at the [TS]

  bottom of the description and this is [TS]

  almost entirely unrelated doctors are [TS]

  active on your spoiler BMWs first car to [TS]

  be fitted with an active rear spoiler [TS]

  which extends automatically once the car [TS]

  reaches 68 miles an hour or hundred and [TS]

  ten kilometers an hour to maintain [TS]

  stability at higher speeds ok that's [TS]

  really kinda douchey stupid using the [TS]

  villa and not haven't but what's [TS]

  interesting and i really mean seriously [TS]

  spoiler reduces lift to on the rear axle [TS]

  by more than thirty-five percent that's [TS]

  actually pretty cool as douchey as the [TS]

  911 knockoff spoiler maybe [TS]

  and I feel like you you can only get [TS]

  away with active aerodynamics like 911 [TS]

  is the is the entry bar like when you [TS]

  get away with your dad also 911 up you [TS]

  can get away really know they were on [TS]

  your on your mclaren p1 yeah are active [TS]

  whatever we don't care what you know [TS]

  have to have it to be a transformer in [TS]

  turning a different shape but I don't [TS]

  have it ok fine we'll accept that but [TS]

  once you go down below that once you're [TS]

  like in your fifty-thousand-dollar car [TS]

  and and it's it's having active area [TS]

  advocates like no I don't think so I'm [TS]

  like so see what i like about this car [TS]

  though is that I think it will have [TS]

  actually probably more cargo space in [TS]

  the a7 because these I saw an e7 a [TS]

  dealer and I open the tri 7 is [TS]

  attractive though I'm saying it looks [TS]

  nice i'm not sure the I'm kind of torn [TS]

  on that like I think it's I think it [TS]

  looks really weird from the side and [TS]

  it's it's very oddly long like it's it's [TS]

  kind of a weird proportioned car [TS]

  I don't like the a7 that much i think [TS]

  it's ok it's also ridiculously expensive [TS]

  for what it is [TS]

  so the man who just ordered an m5 yes [TS]

  area that's a different type of car I [TS]

  mean you know this it's truly a seven is [TS]

  is is very similar to the a6 with a [TS]

  different shape but so I don't know what [TS]

  the 3g t is going to cost but it's [TS]

  probably gonna be like 20 grand at least [TS]

  less than the a7 and it's and it's gonna [TS]

  have like it has a little bit more than [TS]

  your leg bigger car every day 7 a bigger [TS]

  car isn't it [TS]

  each reichenberger it is i think i'll [TS]

  have to check the dimensions and and [TS]

  have everybody email us they made the [TS]

  3-series GT a little bit they need like [TS]

  eight inches longer it's a pretty it's [TS]

  noticeably longer car than the regular [TS]

  3-series and a good few inches of that [TS]

  goes to backseat room and the rest of it [TS]

  goes to the trunk so you actually have [TS]

  like a 5-series class backseat I think [TS]

  that see this is why I'm i really want [TS]

  to see this car i think this might be [TS]

  really great for people who aren't us [TS]

  I don't know I I it's very it's a [TS]

  curiosity [TS]

  you know I really want to see in person [TS]

  and I'm not understanding why the a7 [TS]

  looks so much better than any of these [TS]

  other shooting brake whatever they call [TS]

  them is because it's not jacked up as [TS]

  much that [TS]

  like and I think I like I've seen him in [TS]

  person on the road and they just seem [TS]

  like lower and wider and as compared to [TS]

  with the studio looks like it looks like [TS]

  you know looks like Ross looks like [TS]

  upright and narrower and just not maybe [TS]

  it's a styling thing where they're able [TS]

  to like emphasize that low wideness like [TS]

  billion i was out he has the very thin [TS]

  head and tail lights that are all about [TS]

  horizontal you know maybe that maybe [TS]

  silver you know a fashion trick but it [TS]

  works in person night I saw the a7 and [TS]

  magazines and I thought wow that's [TS]

  really weird looking but now I see them [TS]

  on the road like that's pretty actually [TS]

  pretty nice [TS]

  I don't plus the new grill that out he [TS]

  has its for the last year to where it [TS]

  goes from the hood line all the way down [TS]

  to the bottom of the bumper and I so [TS]

  they also lexus me with a bowtie shape [TS]

  well I like the lexus more than this [TS]

  although I don't totally love the lexus [TS]

  either in marco just pasted in the chat [TS]

  a picture of the hindquarters the a7 and [TS]

  I was going to say the same thing that [TS]

  that it's got a badonkadonk [TS]

  it looks low and what looks like the [TS]

  back of an re ah John usually you and I [TS]

  are so much in agreement but I didn't [TS]

  get it I was like I didn't I don't think [TS]

  it looks like great pictures i agree but [TS]

  i think i see them frequently in person [TS]

  on the road and every time I see one in [TS]

  person I'm struck by how much how much [TS]

  nicer look so nice [TS]

  I thought it would and that maybe i'll [TS]

  have to see one person to that point but [TS]

  looking at pictures I don't get it going [TS]

  to see a lot of a sevens tooling around [TS]

  Virginia know now I see tons of a fours [TS]

  and the 3 series especially in the part [TS]

  of richmond wearing the 3-series is like [TS]

  the Yuppie civic so we see tons of those [TS]

  but no not a lot of big Audis and not a [TS]

  lot of big BMWs either for that matter [TS]

  and we see a ton of it in my area are [TS]

  Panamera's even it was buying a car [TS]

  every night see people many of them [TS]

  around here it's like I don't know what [TS]

  happened i don't i didn't think they [TS]

  were gonna sell single one of those is [TS]

  something i think that that guy and I [TS]

  didn't think they were gonna sell any of [TS]

  those but I said you see those around [TS]

  and then somebody started being replaced [TS]

  with Panamera the Panamera again I you [TS]

  know it does not look good in pictures [TS]

  in person [TS]

  it still doesn't look good but it looks [TS]

  better than it does in the pictures [TS]

  let's say like I think first of all I I [TS]

  think anybody's gonna sell a lot of [TS]

  these things that these three T's I even [TS]

  though like nerds like us want things to [TS]

  be you know shorter or smaller sleeker [TS]

  the fact is the market especially in the [TS]

  u.s. at least in the rest of the world [TS]

  everything crazy and and fat but you [TS]

  know our market demands vehicles like [TS]

  this that have more cargo space bigger [TS]

  everything long no longer everything [TS]

  bigger everything more you know more [TS]

  versatility and the reason why these [TS]

  weird crossovers exists is because they [TS]

  sell my seat I you know you said you [TS]

  only see like manatees hundreds i see [TS]

  tons of those honda things I see them [TS]

  all the time i see people here have had [TS]

  the weird BMW x6 which is there with [TS]

  their abbreviations sack the sports [TS]

  activity coupe they actually call it [TS]

  that I mean it's like and what people [TS]

  here by them here but you can always [TS]

  take it too far when the cautionary [TS]

  tales and remember the Mercedes our [TS]

  class [TS]

  no yeah I don't know most people don't [TS]

  remember the Mercedes our class but like [TS]

  you can like oh so people like wagons in [TS]

  the Cadillac SUV type things that like [TS]

  they want to get there they don't want [TS]

  you to not buy their car because you [TS]

  don't have room for your stuff like it [TS]

  so they're constantly trying to find a [TS]

  way to make you know make the B&O you [TS]

  still cool but have more room for stuff [TS]

  well Mercedes took that to its logical [TS]

  conclusion and produce what was [TS]

  essentially a minivan [TS]

  alright 474 70 grand gotta hang a [TS]

  picture i don't think a lot of people [TS]

  bought those I see them around what [TS]

  you're gonna see them I sent you pay [TS]

  seventy thousand dollars for a minivan [TS]

  that's what I semi-transparent you think [TS]

  it's funny to how like almost all of [TS]

  these new car shapes and sizes [TS]

  almost all of them are so that Americans [TS]

  can get this the benefits of a minivan [TS]

  without buying one or at least some of [TS]

  the benefits of independent like like [TS]

  largely everyone in America like there's [TS]

  this cultural bias against minivans [TS]

  they're just seen as like these will see [TS]

  things that nobody can have any fun and [TS]

  it's just like what I mean that it's [TS]

  like dry it's like driving advanced like [TS]

  driving a bus with your family grow from [TS]

  a car to like now being the bus driver [TS]

  to a big thing you buy them because [TS]

  especially if you have larger children [TS]

  like imagine if you had a family with [TS]

  four kids and they're all teenagers like [TS]

  you can't wedge them and no one was [TS]

  right with those people in the [TS]

  background you want to have like big [TS]

  seating like you're on a big bus and [TS]

  then you get to be the driver of the bus [TS]

  and it's it's like driving a bus Europe [TS]

  I the steering wheel is horizontal you [TS]

  know it's bright its and forever the way [TS]

  people added more capacity more cargo or [TS]

  people or both capacity to their [TS]

  vehicles for decades was to either get [TS]

  wagons or mini vans or full-size vans [TS]

  and and in America now nobody wants vans [TS]

  or our wagons but we have all these [TS]

  other car types that are similar like [TS]

  Suu know that like especially the [TS]

  compact SUVs which are whole areas you [TS]

  know at most suvs the whole reason they [TS]

  came about was that they they pretty [TS]

  much replaced minivans in the US and at [TS]

  least four in and most of the market I [TS]

  think that they replacement advanced as [TS]

  what people want to be when I had been [TS]

  you get that they get to drive a truck [TS]

  like you can do i'm not driving a van [TS]

  driving a truck example right it's [TS]

  shaped more square little drier trucks [TS]

  and I like trucks and drive like vans [TS]

  and BMW is doing the opposite [TS]

  let's try to keep selling 3 Series will [TS]

  make them look like ugly SUVs but have [TS]

  them drive like three series but I [TS]

  honestly I think this thing's gonna sell [TS]

  like crazy because that there are people [TS]

  here who want that I mean we want one [TS]

  probably like it's crazy and Italy if it [TS]

  doesn't look too SUV like we're probably [TS]

  going to buy one of these things for [TS]

  tiff you know it's weird here we were [TS]

  alluding to the differences between [TS]

  Americans and and the rest of the world [TS]

  and it's it's odd because I feel like [TS]

  Americans have a particular bias against [TS]

  station wagons or about want to say it's [TS]

  a states in British parlance if i'm not [TS]

  mistaken then we only know some top gear [TS]

  yes and so we have this this real hatred [TS]

  for wagons for hatchbacks in for diesels [TS]

  and hatchbacks to me or kind of the [TS]

  surface and that yeah they have room but [TS]

  that I don't know I just feel like it's [TS]

  kind of a let's take something tiny and [TS]

  give it a monochrome of extra space and [TS]

  now suddenly that's supposed to make [TS]

  everything better a hatchback contact [TS]

  wagon right and I just doesn't make [TS]

  sense to me want to get a wagon but [TS]

  nobody in America Lex wagons [TS]

  well you know like whereas we be burned [TS]

  out and wagons you're right you're like [TS]

  where you have one food all the time [TS]

  eventually like it's backlash like with [TS]

  wagon back lash happened sometime we [TS]

  when we were growing up everyone so [TS]

  that's it no more of this wagon crap mom [TS]

  and dads have wagons I'm sick of wagons [TS]

  wagons are gone then [TS]

  advanced came and we very quickly [TS]

  decided that those were not you know [TS]

  cool or interesting even forget buying [TS]

  for their families right and so it's [TS]

  like I was hoping ok now we can go back [TS]

  to wagons right guys cuz now like [TS]

  minivan so the uncool thing and now [TS]

  maybe wet now you realize the driving a [TS]

  car that just has like the back pumped [TS]

  out at least you're still driving a car [TS]

  it's not like a minivan right guys but [TS]

  we didn't see your research and wagons [TS]

  only people who have researchers and [TS]

  wagons with volvo how to research and [TS]

  hot wagons my dad had that was the v70 [TS]

  or whatever the [TS]

  or whatever the [TS]

  they're really really fast turbocharged [TS]

  five-cylinder volvo wagon wheels only [TS]

  had the sedan version of it but they [TS]

  made a wagon of that I the cadillac [TS]

  cts-v like the the wagon version of that [TS]

  and a couple of the high-end things like [TS]

  you know BMW Mercedes and how he had two [TS]

  wagons the various time but there was no [TS]

  mainstream resurgence of wagons it [TS]

  wasn't like everybody all of a sudden [TS]

  had a wagon addition to the minivan and [TS]

  so now like we've run out of shapes and [TS]

  I like your wagons are no minivans are [TS]

  no how about some mutant hybrid you know [TS]

  what SUVs like all those are cool now so [TS]

  they keep making SUVs but now they want [TS]

  to make something that's not an SUV [TS]

  that's not a wagon and there's not a [TS]

  minivan and we end up with these [TS]

  missions in the shape and freaks that [TS]

  are like I just get just give me a wagon [TS]

  I'll be perfectly happy with you know a [TS]

  decent way because a wagon is a really [TS]

  efficient use of length of the car but [TS]

  we don't want you know we don't want [TS]

  them aesthetically usually like they I [TS]

  think they look so much better than one [TS]

  of these crossover like what did you [TS]

  think would you would you rather have [TS]

  this GT thing or a three series wagon i [TS]

  have to drive the GT first you know I [TS]

  have to see it especially in person to [TS]

  see how tall is it you know I'd rather [TS]

  have the Wizards i think on paper i [TS]

  think it's only like two inches taller [TS]

  than the three series and that might be [TS]

  a big difference i don't really know [TS]

  what you're gonna have to see it and [TS]

  have to drive it honestly i think i [TS]

  think i might pick the GT if I had to [TS]

  say I think I picked the wagon and it's [TS]

  it it's funny John that I feel like you [TS]

  and I are back in the same corner again [TS]

  it's funny you mentioned cts-v wagon [TS]

  because there's a part of me and I [TS]

  couldn't afford to cts-v wagon even used [TS]

  or not the not the fun supercharged ones [TS]

  anyway but I really tried to get a cts-v [TS]

  sedan only because i really have no need [TS]

  for a wagon but before I got 335 and it [TS]

  was just an affordable but I there's a [TS]

  part of me that will always kind of wish [TS]

  that I could have a cts-v wagon and i [TS]

  actually was exchanging tweets with [TS]

  somebody earlier today and I don't have [TS]

  their name in front of me but they had a [TS]

  legacy subaru legacy wagon and a part of [TS]

  you always wonder man how fun would it [TS]

  be to have like a cts-v wagon or legacy [TS]

  GT wagons something a wagon that's fast [TS]

  you know how fun would it be to smoke [TS]

  something [TS]

  that you have no business being quicker [TS]

  than in a wagon while you're hauling [TS]

  crap and they made an m5 wagon in the [TS]

  last generation but somebody BMW said [TS]

  recently they only sold like a few [TS]

  hundred of them totally saying they made [TS]

  it for years [TS]

  unlike the Mercedes i want to say it's a [TS]

  c63 I think that's right you know they [TS]

  they sold a few hundred of those in the [TS]

  states and actually a friend of mine his [TS]

  wife drives one and I've not been ended [TS]

  up not seen it but just being in an [TS]

  absurdly fast wagon I think that'd be [TS]

  fun but to your point John it's like [TS]

  we've run out of shapes and we've we've [TS]

  we've overdosed on wagons we don't like [TS]

  those and i just i don't get it i wish i [TS]

  wish it was more socially acceptable if [TS]

  it to have a wagon in the same thing [TS]

  with diesels you know Americans are [TS]

  obsessed with hybrids no hybrid this [TS]

  hybrid that starting to fall away now [TS]

  but to my mind I'd much rather have a [TS]

  diesel and hybrid I don't get the hybrid [TS]

  thing at all [TS]

  yeah me too actually the hybrids hybrids [TS]

  are a good idea for a lot of reasons but [TS]

  in practice a lot of times the mileage [TS]

  isn't as much as you would think [TS]

  Diesel's on the other hand our way [TS]

  simpler environmentally their pride I [TS]

  don't know offhand you know because [TS]

  hybrid of the problem of battery [TS]

  creation and battery disposal both of [TS]

  which are really inconvenient truths [TS]

  that for environmental people look [TS]

  they're having disposed of all those [TS]

  batteries is really not pretty so if you [TS]

  look like total carbon footprint of of [TS]

  having a hybrid versus having just a [TS]

  really efficient gas or diesel engine [TS]

  the hybrid space still come out ahead i [TS]

  think because you have to factor in the [TS]

  carbon footprint of remaining for them [TS]

  to get not mining but drilling for the [TS]

  fossil fuels that are going to power [TS]

  your I a car but it turns out to be not [TS]

  as big of an advantage of people think I [TS]

  i think i think the method is the [TS]

  outcome anyway please email Casey with [TS]

  that information thanks but you know yet [TS]

  diesels or even just very efficient gas [TS]

  engines i think for if you're trying to [TS]

  be really environmentally conscious and [TS]

  and especially total carbon footprint [TS]

  wise if you have to have a [TS]

  are all I mean are diesels much worse [TS]

  for emissions or heavy fix all that ever [TS]

  historically but there with these [TS]

  standards have gone up such that i think [TS]

  the emissions her very close i forget [TS]

  who's leading on diesel emissions case [TS]

  it was it was the Europe that went to [TS]

  like the super clean diesels first visit [TS]

  America I couldn't us there's no way it [TS]

  was awesome yeah I don't think it was [TS]

  awesome and didn't didn't like Mercedes [TS]

  and and Volkswagen start doing something [TS]

  with like he had urea things yeah yeah [TS]

  mercedes bluetec think yeah yeah diesel [TS]

  is your way i like when we were kids [TS]

  diesels were like they smelled look at [TS]

  the look and smell like that sounded [TS]

  like trucks now today with modern [TS]

  diesels you know a regular person can't [TS]

  even tell it's these looks up this [TS]

  little d somewhere on the patch right [TS]

  oh yeah you can't find this gas thing [TS]

  doesn't fit yeah that's the only way you [TS]

  can tell don't have time to tell my [TS]

  tesla model s story [TS]

  yeah how god I almost forgot about that [TS]

  yes please do speaking speaking of [TS]

  hybrids and BMW wagon so I i got a [TS]

  chance this week to riding but not [TS]

  actually drive a tesla model s because a [TS]

  friend of mine was test driving it and [TS]

  actually buying one I believe so you [TS]

  know we're having not driven it [TS]

  certainly not gonna stop me from [TS]

  reviewing it certainly was open we have [TS]

  a Tesla store in the mall i don't know [TS]

  if you guys have these been in our local [TS]

  multiple is online you go in there and [TS]

  as the store and I've been in the store [TS]

  before and seen a little bit assembled [TS]

  car and then filled around with a [TS]

  regular one that's the only car they had [TS]

  in our store they just have to [TS]

  disassemble model s and put the other [TS]

  model s and then like the one you test [TS]

  drive is not you don't drop out of the [TS]

  mall they have it out in the parking lot [TS]

  or whatever and so this is a pretty [TS]

  interesting car we talk about the [TS]

  interior last time about the touchscreen [TS]

  everything and even though i had seen it [TS]

  before I hadn't like you know spent [TS]

  serious time with it but now I got a [TS]

  test-drive what they do is they take you [TS]

  through and like it's like a guided tour [TS]

  of the car tell you how everything works [TS]

  i need to go you know go through all [TS]

  that stuff when you get to drive around [TS]

  a little bit [TS]

  and it since i couldn't actually drive [TS]

  it i was paying most attention to all [TS]

  the way all the stuff works and how [TS]

  they're trying to justify the price of [TS]

  this car think like it goes from like 50 [TS]

  grand for the one that only goes like a [TS]

  hundred and fifty miles all the way up [TS]

  to like 90 grand for the for the Model S [TS]

  performance that a has the bigger [TS]

  batteries 300-mile range and other stuff [TS]

  that's quite a range of cars you're [TS]

  spending many thousand dollars for car [TS]

  you have certain expectations of about [TS]

  like everything about the car that the [TS]

  buying experience that the sort of [TS]

  dealership experience the way the [TS]

  interior looks and feels the amenities [TS]

  and stuff like that and I was trying to [TS]

  decide like is this a ninety thousand [TS]

  dollar car is this a ninety thousand [TS]

  dollar car experience and you can see [TS]

  Tesla's trying like you know so they [TS]

  have the person to give you the test [TS]

  drive and it's clear that the person at [TS]

  first of all the person had given a test [TS]

  drive my impression was that she did not [TS]

  live in our state even if she was just [TS]

  traveling like with the dealership or [TS]

  going around like she's a professional [TS]

  Tesla sales sales person test drive you [TS]

  know whatever like looking for some [TS]

  local person that hired you know it was [TS]

  very polished presentation the the [TS]

  little thing that used to get into the [TS]

  car is shaped like a tiny model s like a [TS]

  little Matchbox car with no buttons or [TS]

  anything i'm gonna keep smiling yet [TS]

  yeah and you press on you press on like [TS]

  the front of the card open up the front [TS]

  thing the back of the car back in the [TS]

  middle like so that's all very you know [TS]

  you know high-end car things like do [TS]

  weird stuff with their keys this is a [TS]

  weird thing to do with this thing is [TS]

  shaped like a little car proximity door [TS]

  handle things the door handle slide out [TS]

  of the car again if you're buying a [TS]

  lecture car we talked about this last [TS]

  week you want to feel like you're buying [TS]

  futuristic car was door and slide out i [TS]

  could have seen that in a sci-fi movie [TS]

  in the eighties and it's about as good [TS]

  idea now as it was then when you open [TS]

  the door so you know touch-sensitive [TS]

  like that Ferrari has doors like this [TS]

  where you don't actually pull handle you [TS]

  just touch your hand to it a minute [TS]

  it unlocks the door automatically for [TS]

  you there's no yanking and yanking is [TS]

  unseemly right so all that they're doing [TS]

  pretty well it interior of the car the [TS]

  Mercedes switchgear supposedly and I [TS]

  guess if you're I don't haven't been in [TS]

  a Mercedes long time but there they have [TS]

  that the two stocks on the left is [TS]

  anyone now I don't know what are the [TS]

  aristocracy's I think they have this [TS]

  they do two stocks and left will get [TS]

  email if i'm wrong about this but anyway [TS]

  this thing has to start from left [TS]

  on the right the generations of it it's [TS]

  a column column shift gear shift which I [TS]

  hadn't seen in forever you know but of [TS]

  course there's no there's no gears to [TS]

  speak of is like park you know reverse [TS]

  and and drives like isn't like the whole [TS]

  airship the whole area where we we [TS]

  usually have gear shifts now is not all [TS]

  empty in the model s yeah so like you've [TS]

  got the big the touchscreen thing the [TS]

  big you know it's it's actually bigger [TS]

  than I thought it would be the big [TS]

  touchscreen thing and the software on [TS]

  there is not they have nothing to be [TS]

  ashamed of it is not embarrassing it's [TS]

  not as responsive as an ipad is not as [TS]

  responsive as it should be and as we [TS]

  talked about the last show like knobs [TS]

  they need mobsters need them but like [TS]

  this is their vision statement no knobs [TS]

  no buttons and you know they have you [TS]

  have controls on the steering wheel to [TS]

  do stuff and I'll some controls on [TS]

  steering wheel that can also control the [TS]

  touchscreen but the bottom line is i [TS]

  would rather have knowledge but you know [TS]

  this is their vision statement this is [TS]

  the big screen you can do a lot of [TS]

  things from it you know it's I give them [TS]

  a pass on the first generation thing [TS]

  your seats and everything and interior I [TS]

  think the interior looks like a [TS]

  fifty-thousand-dollar card not like a [TS]

  ninety thousand dollar car in terms of [TS]

  materials not fit and finish because [TS]

  it's been finishing fine but in terms of [TS]

  materials that didn't look like the [TS]

  inside of Marcos and five is gonna like [TS]

  this is a comparably priced car right it [TS]

  just it just did not it wasn't up to [TS]

  that level of like you know tiny jeweled [TS]

  chrome things and even though you can [TS]

  pick different things you can pick what [TS]

  in the interior you can pick piano [TS]

  finish you can pick real graphite in all [TS]

  sorts of things just didn't look quite [TS]

  that fancy and part of it is the fact [TS]

  that to your right is just get you goes [TS]

  flat to the floor like there's nothing [TS]

  better there's no if there's no tunnel [TS]

  there's still no gearshift lever this [TS]

  like little little ridges so actually I [TS]

  think this is people love this in [TS]

  practice because that's where you know [TS]

  but my wife Drive want to put her purse [TS]

  somewhere the person would go perfectly [TS]

  that you can put the biggest price you [TS]

  could possibly imagine it fit perfectly [TS]

  flat on the floor between states but [TS]

  there's nothing else there except a [TS]

  little plastic ridge thing and you know [TS]

  a little leather thing with the armrest [TS]

  and and cupholders and stuff but just [TS]

  the interior was not quite up to 90,000 [TS]

  da levels but again this is a car the [TS]

  single-car ranges from about 50 to 90 so [TS]

  I guess it's got a [TS]

  yeah you know span the range there I [TS]

  headroom I couldn't buy one of these [TS]

  because it you know my hits the head [TS]

  it's that line of cases were probably [TS]

  the same problems in the front seat the [TS]

  seat all we're going I'm surprised it's [TS]

  a pretty roomy car for the most part I'm [TS]

  kind of surprised to hear that it's not [TS]

  about it's not it's roomy for for short [TS]

  people but anybody yet this is a problem [TS]

  with a lot of luxury cars and [TS]

  helicopters that I but i can't buy them [TS]

  with a sunroof because my head will hit [TS]

  the headliner not like hit but just [TS]

  enough so that your hair is rubbing [TS]

  that's super-annoying right yeah I don't [TS]

  want have no idea what that's like [TS]

  getting yes haha it on many fronts and [TS]

  and so that it's it's a little bit tight [TS]

  you can get it with him without the [TS]

  sunroof and look at both of them that I [TS]

  couldn't tell because i was in the front [TS]

  seat of the one without but the backseat [TS]

  for sure on the one without the sunroof [TS]

  is worse because of the backseat the one [TS]

  with the sunroof they have a little [TS]

  scoop out area where this glass of [TS]

  whatever the backseat for looks [TS]

  basically and for according to my friend [TS]

  drag coefficient but I know if I could [TS]

  only buy that because I feel like give [TS]

  me an extra 2 inches of headroom and [TS]

  then you drag coefficient go down too [TS]

  much [TS]

  it's really tight in the back because it [TS]

  you know it looks really nice on the [TS]

  outside and the sacrifice that [TS]

  nice-looking this is in the back you [TS]

  really don't want adults 6 foot or [TS]

  taller adults sitting in the back seat [TS]

  like that leg room also was not as roomy [TS]

  as you would you would think they're so [TS]

  passenger in the car it was a pretty [TS]

  long test drive and we got to try out [TS]

  you know everything about your respects [TS]

  trout highways exit ramps entrance ramps [TS]

  you know stop-and-go traffic all that [TS]

  stuff the performance of his car is it's [TS]

  it's quite an anomaly because the Tesla [TS]

  Model S performance 0-16 4.4 seconds [TS]

  which is a respectable number for our 90 [TS]

  thousand dollar car like it's not it's [TS]

  not a supercar but it's pretty darn good [TS]

  you know right i mean what marcos m3 is [TS]

  like 36 or something like that are and [TS]

  five rather 36 or not they're actually I [TS]

  believes that they made a bunch of waves [TS]

  and in the YouTube seen a few months ago [TS]

  I believe that the tesla model s beats [TS]

  the m5 a drag race the m5 will only be [TS]

  that if you have to turn now this about [TS]

  maybe once it goes over 60 things are [TS]

  happening but the thing is that the 0-60 [TS]

  time is time is really good but the top [TS]

  speed is a hundred thirty now if you [TS]

  guys hear about how you [TS]

  ever remember a car that went 0-16 4.4 [TS]

  seconds but had 230 miles an hour tops [TS]

  that those respects from two different [TS]

  errors because back when Cartman had [TS]

  topped out at 230 they took seconds to [TS]

  60 right that like in any color any [TS]

  modern car that goes to 60 in less than [TS]

  five seconds does not top out at [TS]

  one-thirty so i'm i'm curious as to why [TS]

  they top out but I don't think it's the [TS]

  tires i think maybe there's like since [TS]

  there is no gearing maybe that's how [TS]

  fast you know it's an RPM limit on the [TS]

  electric motors me completely it's like [TS]

  a heat issue if you go mommy like [TS]

  sustain a speed much faster than that [TS]

  for very long [TS]

  yeah i'm not sure what it is but but [TS]

  anyway so we we got to you know do some [TS]

  performance run to end it is it's weird [TS]

  because during of performing our and [TS]

  acceleration run like that my brain was [TS]

  inserting the downshift noises or the [TS]

  upshift noises rather like Werner and [TS]

  there were no such noises because there [TS]

  is no gear changing like it's not [TS]

  happening but and and you know you feel [TS]

  the surge of acceleration there's no [TS]

  pauses and there's no hitches and that's [TS]

  why would there be it's just a motor [TS]

  connected to a wheel and you just make [TS]

  it go fast [TS]

  I they had the test car governed at 85 [TS]

  miles an hour which we immediately found [TS]

  out and he said it's because people were [TS]

  going a little bit too fast and 85 miles [TS]

  an hour [TS]

  rivers really quickly especially when [TS]

  there's no noise and no like you know [TS]

  herky-jerky just press the bell and you [TS]

  like up but 85 they're just stop you [TS]

  know very strange experience stranger i [TS]

  think then the experience of like enough [TS]

  if anyone's ever been and hybrids like [TS]

  there's no noise you know you're just [TS]

  like you just roll out of your parking [TS]

  spot [TS]

  this is no power and ivory yeah well no [TS]

  but there's nothing there's nothing [TS]

  there's no engine noise that you can [TS]

  hear your public yet your tires just [TS]

  rolling over the pebbles that's what [TS]

  it's like you're you know the car is [TS]

  free falling right but yeah very strange [TS]

  experience and the other strange that i [TS]

  read about it and many reviews and [TS]

  experiencing it was definitely odd was [TS]

  it this car corners and breaks like like [TS]

  it's an Enzo like the body there is no [TS]

  squat during heavy braking going around [TS]

  the entrance ramp the car does not tilt [TS]

  to the side like it's just dead flat [TS]

  unbelievably flat because it's got a [TS]

  human-like the batter if you seen in the [TS]

  store the batteries is the entire like [TS]

  floor plan a fourth floor pan of the car [TS]

  so huge amount of weight is very low in [TS]

  the sky [TS]

  r it does not like about ordering from [TS]

  side-to-side yes it's it is is a boxer [TS]

  engine x 28 but I incredibly flat [TS]

  through fruit everyone over this thing [TS]

  was actually wearing pirelli snow tire [TS]

  so is not we did not reach the [TS]

  performance limits of this car going an [TS]

  entrance and exit ramps and those kinds [TS]

  of tires [TS]

  ah but very very flat and that was it [TS]

  made it made it feel like you were [TS]

  riding like one of those haha monorail [TS]

  to disneyland likely the acceleration [TS]

  and deceleration and the fact that did [TS]

  not tilt it was fascinating and i have [TS]

  to say the like the dashboard like the [TS]

  gauge cluster when you look at the you [TS]

  know they have to have the LCD screen [TS]

  the big one in the center console but [TS]

  then the gauge cluster is also a screen [TS]

  and I think they pull it off pretty well [TS]

  that screen quality could be a little [TS]

  bit better [TS]

  like I think like a redhead macbook pro [TS]

  screen is better than the screen is this [TS]

  thing but you know what can you do but [TS]

  like when you if you type in her speak [TS]

  your destination [TS]

  it does a google map search on the big [TS]

  screen and then once you've found your [TS]

  destination it switches over that map [TS]

  appears to the left of your like tax [TS]

  pedo thing and that's actually garments [TS]

  off over there it's weird that they have [TS]

  two different lenders for but you said [TS]

  you see the little garmin like 3d you're [TS]

  going down the road and navigating type [TS]

  of thing to the left of your attack [TS]

  instead of having to glance over to the [TS]

  center console to say it but it's if [TS]

  they do a pretty good job with the [TS]

  software integration and it's [TS]

  fascinating talking to the person about [TS]

  all the software tweaks that they've [TS]

  been doing like the government that you [TS]

  know the speed governor is one thing but [TS]

  they are constantly sending software [TS]

  updates to tweak out the car works the [TS]

  other strange thing about electric cars [TS]

  total electric cars is like you don't [TS]

  have to break almost at all if you drive [TS]

  the thing the correct way because when [TS]

  you take off the gas pedal it's like [TS]

  you're applying the brakes on a regular [TS]

  car because the regenerative braking you [TS]

  can basically just drive with the gas [TS]

  pedal press down to go pick up slightly [TS]

  to slow down you know which is really [TS]

  weird like you you know we thought the [TS]

  driver of the car was breaking but he [TS]

  was not breaking he was really lifting [TS]

  up on the gas and that's what you know [TS]

  the regenerative braking slow the car [TS]

  now and that's the type of thing they [TS]

  can totally tweak with software how much [TS]

  you want to do that you want [TS]

  regenerative braking on heavy light [TS]

  non-existent all these different things [TS]

  you can do with software too [TS]

  to make the car behave entirely [TS]

  differently because so much of it is [TS]

  electronically controlled and and this [TS]

  is a united breaks are not like a Wimpy [TS]

  breaks you the gigantic disc brakes and [TS]

  i'm assuming the j and disc brakes [TS]

  because the car weighs 400 pounds and [TS]

  you know regenerative braking can only [TS]

  do so much but in practice you can [TS]

  actually just drive this car with gas [TS]

  pedal which is like you know forget [TS]

  about losing your clutch pedal you know [TS]

  you're practically losing the brake [TS]

  pedal now it's like a one-button [TS]

  push-button appliance type car so I [TS]

  overall i was very impressed with his [TS]

  car if you told me his car costs $15,000 [TS]

  that this is amazing this is a [TS]

  fifty-thousand-dollar car that anybody [TS]

  who does not need to travel more than [TS]

  250 miles should it should look at at [TS]

  90,000 i have to say that I this would [TS]

  not be my choice even though it's a very [TS]

  interesting experience very very very [TS]

  smooth ride reasonably quiet in terms of [TS]

  you know noise isolation and everything [TS]

  like that but you know holding up [TS]

  against marcos and five outside it it [TS]

  doesn't compete at that level but it has [TS]

  many characteristics that you know the [TS]

  m5 can't can't touch in terms of just [TS]

  plain weirdness and futuristic miss of [TS]

  driving around this thing when it [TS]

  doesn't the reason have to compete at [TS]

  that level like you know liquid the pre [TS]

  I don't know what previous pricing is [TS]

  now in the previous first came out it [TS]

  was way more expensive then then its [TS]

  segment of you know interior quality and [TS]

  stuff like that but it didn't matter [TS]

  people bought it anyway because they [TS]

  wanted they wanted that hyper they [TS]

  wanted those features same thing with [TS]

  this like people are going to pay a [TS]

  premium for this they're going to be [TS]

  willing to pay 90 grand 48 48 50 grand [TS]

  interior because it's such a cool [TS]

  different futuristic are ya and it does [TS]

  like the feelings that you get it [TS]

  doesn't feel like driving a regular car [TS]

  with it you know whether you like it or [TS]

  not it feels it feels different because [TS]

  of the weird electric motor acceleration [TS]

  and you know that the priests had that [TS]

  too but like the priest had no [TS]

  acceleration to speak of this is [TS]

  actually a very quick powerful car but [TS]

  you know in a very strange way I was [TS]

  also we're looking at the exterior of [TS]

  the car in it that the whole thing like [TS]

  you know you've got the the trunk of the [TS]

  backward just huge it's gigantic like it [TS]

  so you should see what how many cubic [TS]

  feet are in this this GT truck i think [TS]

  this thing is bigger with this kind of [TS]

  like a pseudo hatchback [TS]

  type thing it's a very high and drunk [TS]

  very drunk and then in the front another [TS]

  truck because my here because why not [TS]

  like it's not it's not like all the the [TS]

  engine of his cars you know this dude is [TS]

  two trunks and the trunk in the front is [TS]

  reasonably sized as well I and you look [TS]

  at the car and it's almost like a fake [TS]

  car because I like where is the where's [TS]

  the stuff like if you open it looks like [TS]

  an apple carpet when you open up the [TS]

  hood of it [TS]

  discipline is the trunk and there's one [TS]

  blue little place where you put the [TS]

  wiper fluid like that's like that's like [TS]

  the only thing and you know it's just [TS]

  plastic everywhere else and it's like [TS]

  it's like it's like a fake model cycle [TS]

  here is not only with the engine be we [TS]

  just covered it with plastic and like [TS]

  that's it that's all there is in this [TS]

  too little rubber nubbins for the thing [TS]

  to you know for the hood to rest down on [TS]

  it you get confused about where the car [TS]

  is in this car because it's not on the [TS]

  inside look inside there's nothing in [TS]

  there there's no tunnel is whatever [TS]

  you're looking truck nothing in there [TS]

  you look at the front of the card is [TS]

  nothing in there it shows the be amazing [TS]

  packaging flexibility you have one like [TS]

  the car is not there is no car to speak [TS]

  of except for it's like it's like it's a [TS]

  bunch of suspension tires brakes shocks [TS]

  and steering mechanism as the whole car [TS]

  the one odd thing that I found and I [TS]

  have to you know find something to [TS]

  complain about all things wherever right [TS]

  before we left I was looking at and I [TS]

  was like you know how do you lift the [TS]

  windshield wipers up you know whenever [TS]

  you come away from the car so i could [TS]

  scrape is often whatever you pick the [TS]

  windshield wipers up these ones can't do [TS]

  that because they have hinges they're [TS]

  like it's clear that they could do that [TS]

  but the hood of the car blocks them and [TS]

  we ask the people that were there like [TS]

  maybe maybe happens when the hood up [TS]

  with the hood up you still can't get up [TS]

  well maybe you can stop the wipers and I [TS]

  when they're vertical and then they can [TS]

  fold down nope can't stop them on their [TS]

  vertical seems like they'll have to [TS]

  provide some sort of software mode or [TS]

  some sort of maintenance thing where [TS]

  it's like I need to change my wiper [TS]

  blades now quite a lot of one reason [TS]

  please put the wiper in the upright [TS]

  position and stop them so i don't know [TS]

  if that's like a first-generation bug or [TS]

  maybe the person to deal should just did [TS]

  not know how to stop them in that [TS]

  position but these are obviously all [TS]

  just being sold in California you know [TS]

  you can have to change the wiper blades [TS]

  eventually you know so now you're [TS]

  already at the next electric car it had [TS]

  fewer like gin 1 i'm looking at this [TS]

  like you look like a new macbook pro it [TS]

  had fewer genuine [TS]

  bugs than I thought it would but it's [TS]

  still kind of curly gentlemen car but I [TS]

  can understand why someone who's into [TS]

  who wants to try something new once have [TS]

  something cool futuristic you would not [TS]

  be sacrificing anything to get this car [TS]

  except for you know except a range if [TS]

  you want to do a 600-mile trip and you [TS]

  have to like strategically plan to go [TS]

  through these you know places [TS]

  superchargers but you would not be [TS]

  sacrificing anything or if you use this [TS]

  as your daily car it's you know it's [TS]

  nice enough its luxurious enough it's [TS]

  roomy enough and it's interesting enough [TS]

  to make up for all the places where it's [TS]

  not as good as an audi or BMW Mercedes [TS]

  for a similar amount of money so i can [TS]

  wait more impressed after driving it [TS]

  than just looking at in the mall but [TS]

  still would not buy one [TS]

  what's interesting is I'm looking at the [TS]

  Tesla website and one of the things they [TS]

  mention is a battery replacement option [TS]

  will be available for purchase soon the [TS]

  option allows you to pre-purchase a new [TS]

  battery to be installed after eight [TS]

  years for fixed price eight thousand [TS]

  dollars for 40 kilowatt-hour batteries [TS]

  $10,000 460 kilowatt-hour batteries and [TS]

  twelve thousand dollars 485 [TS]

  kilowatt-hour batteries [TS]

  that's insane right now you're talking [TS]

  about I didn't say no because it's [TS]

  actually fairly like for what they're [TS]

  doing [TS]

  that's actually not a terrible price [TS]

  like they're I don't think they're [TS]

  gathering people with that price knowing [TS]

  the reason I think this is reasonable as [TS]

  the reason I don't like hybrids is [TS]

  because I know like you we all know from [TS]

  using laptops and stuff like those [TS]

  batteries are gonna go bad and then p.m. [TS]

  every bit as a visceral level like [TS]

  they're just they're just going to go [TS]

  and you like always never worth it [TS]

  you're busted but in this car the rest [TS]

  of the car is a reasonably good [TS]

  high-quality I mean what else is there [TS]

  to the car besides that like that the [TS]

  electric motors I think they're gonna be [TS]

  fine after eight years right because you [TS]

  know we're going to make industrial [TS]

  electric motors they should be fine [TS]

  it's the suspension components all look [TS]

  good the shock absorbers the steering [TS]

  linkage there's not much else in it is [TS]

  like a compressor for the air [TS]

  conditioner like a pump for the [TS]

  hydraulics for the brakes so i'm saying [TS]

  what i'm saying is in eight years [TS]

  it's not you need to throw this car away [TS]

  in eight years putting another 12 grand [TS]

  into into a car that you really love [TS]

  that gets you a brand like basically a [TS]

  brand-new car again I mean you think you [TS]

  know there's no other parts that were [TS]

  actually but you know the brake pads [TS]

  probably gonna last forever because the [TS]

  region and breaking that you barely need [TS]

  years yeah you gotta get new tires [TS]

  because the treadwear but if you really [TS]

  love your Tesla Model S and i can [TS]

  imagine someone really loving and [TS]

  trusting little less after eight years [TS]

  you don't want to throw it away you're [TS]

  like I find is about 12 grand i bought [TS]

  90,000 dolla dolla car has another 12 [TS]

  grand [TS]

  give me my Tesla Model S that I love [TS]

  back again and and having that option [TS]

  also makes the used market a lot more [TS]

  viable because like it's pretty unwise [TS]

  to buy an old hybrid most of the time [TS]

  because the batteries have you know they [TS]

  don't last forever and they don't even [TS]

  last that long felt like you know most [TS]

  you know the toyota prius was basically [TS]

  a toyota echo with hybrid stuff added to [TS]

  it a toyota echo with last way longer [TS]

  than a Prius and in most most usage [TS]

  because the code doesn't have batteries [TS]

  to wear out you know the Tesla you know [TS]

  generally speaking I if I were buying a [TS]

  hybrid i would not buy one that was more [TS]

  than five years old because of that [TS]

  because of that battery issue but this [TS]

  if if I knew this was an option it's a [TS]

  pretty expensive option but it's also a [TS]

  pretty expensive car [TS]

  I mean you know if I was gonna buy one [TS]

  of these use in a couple years get like [TS]

  a three-year-old model for like 40 grand [TS]

  that's not you know like one of the [TS]

  90,000 zinc get like a three-year-old [TS]

  daughter like 40 grand it's actually not [TS]

  that scary of a concept anymore knowing [TS]

  that those things are replaceable and to [TS]

  argue with myself for a minute i [TS]

  remember vividly seeing the the cost of [TS]

  an e39 m5 which by the way was probably [TS]

  my favorite BMW ever just seeing the [TS]

  cost of an e39 m5 motor in it was absurd [TS]

  it was like fifteen or twenty thousand [TS]

  dollars and so 2 to both of your points [TS]

  thinking about it a little more and [TS]

  argue with myself is 12 grand really [TS]

  that bad for what is effectively [TS]

  amounted to a brand-new motor yes i know [TS]

  it's not literally the motor but this is [TS]

  the the part is the only is the part [TS]

  that you expect to wear right you're [TS]

  right so review other parts like aside [TS]

  from just tires i think like I think you [TS]

  go 80,000 miles on one set of brake pads [TS]

  and my sister when 70,000 miles on her [TS]

  integra once that first set of integra [TS]

  brake pads and that car does not have [TS]

  regenerative braking and also I you know [TS]

  this i think these will have because [TS]

  there's so few things it's kind of like [TS]

  the the apple design of like you know [TS]

  just remove everything get rid of [TS]

  everything why do you need any of this [TS]

  the end is nothing there's nothing left [TS]

  except for [TS]

  and hopefully they make the stuff that [TS]

  is they're good they may hopefully they [TS]

  do the door seals well and and the you [TS]

  know the motors for the windows and [TS]

  stuff [TS]

  one funny thing on the the central [TS]

  display is like at the top of its got [TS]

  like a status bar I think it's got the [TS]

  time or something on there and has the [TS]

  little horizontal you know don't double [TS]

  a battery symbol with like a bar chart [TS]

  in the middle of it like a green little [TS]

  line filling up right just like you [TS]

  would see on the top of an ipad on your [TS]

  maternity back in your ipad but it's not [TS]

  the battery meter for the for the like [TS]

  that little iPad in your dashboard is [TS]

  the battery meter for the car but it's [TS]

  the same size is this the battery hurt [TS]

  for you know for your ipad and i was [TS]

  looking like let's look at this that [TS]

  this test the battery you know another [TS]

  friend who i was with said what if you [TS]

  just park the car and just use the [TS]

  little tablet interface how long would [TS]

  it last night her head off with the [TS]

  battery that's not what i did some math [TS]

  before the show it would power so the [TS]

  ipad of the 25 watt hour battery that [TS]

  lasts about 10 hours so if you just ran [TS]

  an ipad off of the Tesla battery that [TS]

  you're sitting on top of a stationary [TS]

  car would last for thirty-four thousand [TS]

  hours or about 3.9 years [TS]

  well that's convenient means either you [TS]

  know this self-discharge faster than [TS]

  they do have two charging USB sockets [TS]

  and plus a 12 volt socket there so if [TS]

  you need to recharge your ipad look for [TS]

  something with the test because they've [TS]

  got all the juice you need guys like I'd [TS]

  be worried if I didn't know about how [TS]

  different that side would i be worried [TS]

  about like um I draining the car's [TS]

  battery too much and i plug in my iphone [TS]

  four years you will have granted yes [TS]

  right but wow i do want to mention i [TS]

  know we're running along but who cares i [TS]

  do want to mention this article I found [TS]

  in Autoweek last month i placed going up [TS]

  in the show notes if we have show notes [TS]

  and it's about haha there there's [TS]

  apparently this this proposal by the [TS]

  National you know that it should [TS]

  nationally the graduation it's a [TS]

  something like that and I don't get as [TS]

  much society who knows and said [TS]

  automakers would would need to make [TS]

  hybrids and electric vehicles emit [TS]

  artificial sounds like you're in 5i yes [TS]

  that's why under these rules because the [TS]

  problem is that electric vehicles are so [TS]

  quiet you pretty much only here [TS]

  iron toys and that's pretty quiet most [TS]

  of the solar electric fields are so [TS]

  quiet that they're posing additional [TS]

  risks to pedestrians who don't realize a [TS]

  car is coming and we asked about that we [TS]

  asked the test the person about that in [TS]

  the test drive and what she said which [TS]

  sounded like a rehearsed answer s all [TS]

  for instance rehearse pictures are [TS]

  professional was that Tesla ask their [TS]

  prospective buyers how they felt about [TS]

  this issue and the the prospective [TS]

  buyers all were only said that they [TS]

  liked the idea of the car being quiet [TS]

  and do not want doesn't want to add any [TS]

  arbitration always the car obviously [TS]

  whoever mandates they're going to but a [TS]

  test was trying to satisfy the people [TS]

  you know for people who are interested [TS]

  in and fifty to ninety thousand dollar [TS]

  cars do they do they want us to add some [TS]

  sort of sound to it for safety and the [TS]

  answer was no and which makes sense when [TS]

  I was like yeah it's the these people [TS]

  just want to that Medicare pedestrians [TS]

  will plow them down they want the car [TS]

  right well actually i should point to [TS]

  like you know like the m5 articles and [TS]

  when I was doing the test drives on the [TS]

  engines do sound different between the [TS]

  m5 with artificial speaker thing and the [TS]

  550 without it but not that different [TS]

  and it was it was a good halfway to the [TS]

  test drive before I even remembered that [TS]

  it had that sound feature before i even [TS]

  thought to pay attention to it like it [TS]

  was I I hardly even noticed it until i [TS]

  remembered that it existed and then I [TS]

  tried paying attention to it and I [TS]

  couldn't notice it at all [TS]

  so that's a little different words with [TS]

  this like this it to meet the [TS]

  requirements automakers would need to [TS]

  add speaker that are audible from the [TS]

  street speakers need you to processor [TS]

  this they were played shows and sound [TS]

  often a humming noise similar to that of [TS]

  a gasoline burning engine only at low [TS]

  speeds so I think like it will be way [TS]

  weirder the m5 fake sound is is very [TS]

  much not noticeable for the most part [TS]

  with this that you're taking a vehicle [TS]

  that is silent and having to generate [TS]

  like a noticeable sound from it that [TS]

  would be I can't imagine that not just [TS]

  sounding really cheesy I think it'll be [TS]

  sacrilegious I'm I've driven and a [TS]

  couple of priuses and they make much [TS]

  more whiny electric noise like I know [TS]

  that like the previous is quiet and [TS]

  doesn't sound like an engine but when [TS]

  you're inside the prius and outside the [TS]

  priest [TS]

  it's a whiny and noisy and this thing [TS]

  this test when you're inside it with [TS]

  really really really quite incredibly [TS]

  quiet maybe just he's better noise [TS]

  insulation maybe because the motors are [TS]

  higher quality and it would just be such [TS]

  a shame to spoil that beautiful quite [TS]

  experienced by having some sort of loser [TS]

  buzzer going off in your tool and fuck [TS]

  off thats why i feel like this I feel [TS]

  like we win either way you know either [TS]

  they don't put this rule into effect and [TS]

  we get hybrid cars and R&B electric cars [TS]

  that are tasteful or they put this role [TS]

  into effect i'm going to laugh everybody [TS]

  for a few years until they finally [TS]

  figure out they don't need it anymore [TS]

  but we really kill it is like everyone's [TS]

  next round of supercars has some sort of [TS]

  electric component like that the enzyme [TS]

  replacement has electric component to [TS]

  the NSX is going to have you know hybrid [TS]

  powertrain imagine of those cars like [TS]

  your million-dollar and so replacement [TS]

  has to make a little buzzing noise when [TS]

  you're pulling out of the parking lot [TS]

  though that's just that's just beyond [TS]

  the terrible you can't like going fine [TS]

  if you wanna make a prius making noise [TS]

  please don't make my supercar make a [TS]

  noise when I back it up [TS]

  have you seen the wienermobile I have [TS]

  yes I somehow I've seen the weekend [TS]

  maybe like three times in the last year [TS]

  I guess maybe one of them like parks [TS]

  nearby or something I don't know [TS]

  you know it's funny because you guys [TS]

  don't have krogers up where you are do [TS]

  you [TS]

  their groceries having a high of [TS]

  southern thing what you say John it's a [TS]

  southern thing for me is one myself I oh [TS]

  yeah it's Ohio license out it kind of is [TS]

  honestly I mean it's like it has it has [TS]

  all the same things as the south is just [TS]

  over there and it's just really the left [TS]

  only do I bring it up because there was [TS]

  a wienermobile parked in front of a one [TS]

  of the 74 local krogers last summer i [TS]

  want to say and i'm an idiot because I [TS]

  didn't go in when we were walking into [TS]

  kroger I figured all just running on the [TS]

  way out then it disappeared you can go [TS]

  into the wienermobile I think so I don't [TS]

  think it's just like a truck right i [TS]

  mean it's yeah with like Beyonce hmmm [TS]

  yeah and it's not like Trans Am [TS]

  taillights it's a Frankenstein mobile we [TS]

  should we should maybe I see it for [TS]

  something that adds to on your break now [TS]

  Tiffany I want to at some point not only [TS]

  be anywhere be able to actually want to [TS]

  drive one and I wonder like what what is [TS]

  involved in making that happen [TS]

  yeah you have to be a college student i [TS]

  think we like the people who is rather [TS]

  than that you know there are doing [TS]

  promotional things it's like those red [TS]

  bull vans like they like it's just it's [TS]

  a job somebody it drives all over the [TS]

  place to do like promotional events or [TS]

  just maybe I don't know maybe like I [TS]

  wonder maybe the people who drive it [TS]

  aren't actually oscar meyer employees [TS]

  they're just people who oscar meyer pays [TS]

  to drive the wienermobile around [TS]

  different places like what if they're [TS]

  just like you know plumbers for [TS]

  something that they happen to be driving [TS]

  around a lot anyway era [TS]

  what do you think you're going together [TS]

  this driving the wienermobile experience [TS]

  will be able to say we drove the [TS]

  wienermobile and we and we wouldn't know [TS]

  we would have the satisfaction of having [TS]

  driven the wienermobile just a truck you [TS]

  know i know it i mean from I'm sure be a [TS]

  very boring drive but we would just know [TS]

  that we had driven the wienermobile on [TS]

  that be very satisfied crash part of the [TS]

  wienermobile into some other structure [TS]

  that would be something [TS]

  ok little wieners to the Windows Store [TS]

  like the back one good at pretty far [TS]

  yeah it takes something like it you're [TS]

  making make a sharp turn the parking lot [TS]

  knocked over the lights [TS]

  yeah they like maybe crossed you know [TS]

  crash into a Starbucks window that would [TS]

  be fun [TS]

  hey guys guys guess what real-time [TS]

  follow-up tradition i know i know is [TS]

  awesome [TS]

  the hot dogger position of driving the [TS]

  wienermobile is open the US citizens in [TS]

  the job last from the first of june [TS]

  until the following first of june only [TS]

  college seniors who are about to [TS]

  graduate are eligible both current [TS]

  hotdoggers and Oscar my recruiters visit [TS]

  the college campuses across the country [TS]

  search of the next round of hot doggers [TS]

  candidates are screened from an average [TS]

  of two thousand applicants every March a [TS]

  pool of 30 final-round candidates are [TS]

  brought to kraft foods and oscar meyer [TS]

  headquarters in madison wisconsin for [TS]

  interviews each vehicle can hold two hot [TS]

  doggers and 12 people are chosen [TS]

  wait a minute so like I said it's a [TS]

  college so what is the job then like do [TS]

  you just sell hot dogs and i don't know [TS]

  i don't think you saw how she just drive [TS]

  around in Europe and make people happy [TS]

  so you're so you're continuously head [TS]

  and you just get to have it like as your [TS]

  car for a year so you like parking on [TS]

  campus somewhere that giant no no I [TS]

  think the pageant ask traveling home [TS]

  right you travel around for a year going [TS]

  to krogers and sitting [TS]

  oh that's why your heart that you have [TS]

  to be a senior because you have to be [TS]

  about I not have to do anything for a [TS]

  year assuming any job prospects [TS]

  this is your judgment and if you're [TS]

  driving the winner ability probably [TS]

  honestly and what do you do what do you [TS]

  do after that you've really put it on [TS]

  your résumé right you show up but you [TS]

  sort of trying to get a job afterwards [TS]

  so how have you spent the last year if [TS]

  you want to drive any other kind of [TS]

  novelty food shape vehicle haha the real [TS]

  foot in the door in the industry [TS]