The Incomparable

224: Canonical Space Goo


00:00:02   the incomparable number 224 December [TS]

00:00:11   welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:12   uncomfortable podcast I'm your host [TS]

00:00:13   Jason now we're here today to talk about [TS]

00:00:15   the classic film its it you could argue [TS]

00:00:17   this is a an installment in my get more [TS]

00:00:20   things about Star Trek on the [TS]

00:00:21   incomparable series it's one of the [TS]

00:00:24   finest Star Trek movies ever made [TS]

00:00:26   it's a galaxy quest not a star trek [TS]

00:00:29   movie and yet so much of star trek movie [TS]

00:00:31   here to talk about this classic [TS]

00:00:33   hilarious movie with me 1999 goodyear [TS]

00:00:38   good year for movies are the following [TS]

00:00:40   wonderful people [TS]

00:00:41   scotland ltd I wouldn't talk about Star [TS]

00:00:43   Trek without you it's good to have you [TS]

00:00:45   here even though this isn't technically [TS]

00:00:46   star trek i was about to say we aren't [TS]

00:00:48   going to talk about probably will too i [TS]

00:00:50   think i suspect we will it and I'm glad [TS]

00:00:53   to be here chase [TS]

00:00:54   good good good David lower also here as [TS]

00:00:57   always [TS]

00:00:58   well I'm very glad to be here Jason that [TS]

00:01:01   didn't come out well at all [TS]

00:01:03   we're not talking about the muppets [TS]

00:01:05   today's street do i miss you fraud here [TS]

00:01:09   Erica and sign you just heard her she's [TS]

00:01:12   out there hello i am out here [TS]

00:01:14   hello we have also Glenn fleischmann TVs [TS]

00:01:17   Glenn Fleischman is joining us again [TS]

00:01:19   hello Glenn welcome back [TS]

00:01:21   thanks i grew a VanDyke beard just for [TS]

00:01:23   this episode you know normally we have [TS]

00:01:25   we have reintroduced people and they [TS]

00:01:27   give us a clever lines from the thing [TS]

00:01:30   that we watched or or read or whatever [TS]

00:01:32   and I have like eight of them here and [TS]

00:01:34   nobody did any so was i I hesitated to [TS]

00:01:38   quick and you moved on to the next [TS]

00:01:39   person i was going to claim that i was [TS]

00:01:40   just simply going to be repeating the [TS]

00:01:42   computer for the rest of this podcast I [TS]

00:01:45   don't get it look I have one job on this [TS]

00:01:47   lousy ship it's stupid but I'm going to [TS]

00:01:49   do and Stewart and that is the introduce [TS]

00:01:52   a very special guest a longtime listener [TS]

00:01:54   first-time participant on this show it [TS]

00:01:56   is Joseph rosenstiel you may know him as [TS]

00:02:00   Joe steal Jojo I I'm just jazzed about [TS]

00:02:03   being on the show man what you did there [TS]

00:02:09   so that was i I was really hoping you'd [TS]

00:02:12   say that so thank you [TS]

00:02:14   you nailed in your 141 uncomfortable now [TS]

00:02:17   you a perfect score don't blow it [TS]

00:02:19   so legal steel [TS]

00:02:21   perfect perfect you can be the security [TS]

00:02:24   chief any day [TS]

00:02:25   alright galaxy quest galaxy quest where [TS]

00:02:29   where to begin this is a my sent some of [TS]

00:02:32   you a link earlier to a story i remember [TS]

00:02:35   reading when I was a kid and a Star Trek [TS]

00:02:37   mythology which is called visit to a [TS]

00:02:39   weird planet revisited which it turns [TS]

00:02:40   out is like was like fan fiction but [TS]

00:02:42   then it got picked up and run in a [TS]

00:02:45   professional anthology and it was a [TS]

00:02:47   funny little short story about how three [TS]

00:02:50   of the original Star Trek actors are [TS]

00:02:51   mistakenly beamed aboard the Enterprise [TS]

00:02:53   through a transporter accident and have [TS]

00:02:55   to bluff their way through an event on [TS]

00:02:58   the ship and as I was watching galaxy [TS]

00:03:00   quest i was like oh yeah I think I don't [TS]

00:03:03   have seen this story before and that's [TS]

00:03:06   actually a sequel to one where the real [TS]

00:03:09   Star Trek characters windup in Hollywood [TS]

00:03:11   so this is the same premise which is [TS]

00:03:13   which is a it's totally it's totally [TS]

00:03:15   real rather than it being like beam [TS]

00:03:18   throughout to a parallel universe in [TS]

00:03:19   this case there there are the the aliens [TS]

00:03:22   the termites or is it Dalmatians [TS]

00:03:24   whoo-hoo make the Thurman's whoo-hoo [TS]

00:03:28   make a replica of the the star ship from [TS]

00:03:32   a an eighties I guess TV show that is [TS]

00:03:36   very much like Star Trek that stars Tim [TS]

00:03:38   Allen and sigourney weaver not the [TS]

00:03:41   actual actors they play less good actors [TS]

00:03:44   i would say Alan Rickman Tony Shalhoub [TS]

00:03:46   great cast in this and and that's the [TS]

00:03:51   story so basically these actors are are [TS]

00:03:53   forced to try and try and try to act [TS]

00:03:56   like sci-fi movie heroes and then the [TS]

00:03:59   fun begins [TS]

00:04:00   I guess we should serve for a lot of [TS]

00:04:02   these movies that have been around for a [TS]

00:04:03   little while out i want to ask everybody [TS]

00:04:05   if they have anything [TS]

00:04:06   first off if anybody has an opening [TS]

00:04:07   statement or some thoughts about galaxy [TS]

00:04:10   question what it means to them now would [TS]

00:04:11   be a time John syracuse was not on so [TS]

00:04:13   that slots open somebody wants to step [TS]

00:04:15   up have a brief statement [TS]

00:04:17   ok Glen gives his brief statement i [TS]

00:04:19   always think that tomorrow is a terrible [TS]

00:04:21   actor and I never want to see me [TS]

00:04:22   anything and then I see galaxy quest and [TS]

00:04:24   there's a few other films that seemed [TS]

00:04:26   really like things you would just it was [TS]

00:04:28   at the santa claus i think that our he's [TS]

00:04:30   so ridiculously charming in the right [TS]

00:04:32   mode and i watch this again and think [TS]

00:04:35   he i forget he can be good he carries [TS]

00:04:38   off some really great scenes in it and [TS]

00:04:40   that's almost like this movie is one of [TS]

00:04:42   things that redeems Tim Allen for all [TS]

00:04:43   the the terrible whole GC work is done [TS]

00:04:46   because he can pull it off because he's [TS]

00:04:48   sort of playing a version of himself in [TS]

00:04:49   this sort of but there's a real [TS]

00:04:50   emotional Center what answer and Buzz [TS]

00:04:53   Lightyear and his love for you know I [TS]

00:04:54   forget you ready soon forgotten that [TS]

00:04:56   still not forget the amount i always [TS]

00:04:58   think i'm a super cheesy and yet he has [TS]

00:05:00   an emotional chord was acting [TS]

00:05:01   yeah i think it's i think it's a really [TS]

00:05:03   good performance I think it's a lot of [TS]

00:05:04   fun i think he is he tries to find a [TS]

00:05:07   place that is the full the full Shatner [TS]

00:05:11   while remaining somebody that you want [TS]

00:05:16   to root for like the right right that [TS]

00:05:17   does shattered economy like oh well I [TS]

00:05:19   hear William Shatner maybe was a little [TS]

00:05:21   difficult to work with when they were [TS]

00:05:22   doing the show and all that and yet the [TS]

00:05:23   same time Captain Kirk you want to root [TS]

00:05:26   for him because he's the hero and that [TS]

00:05:27   that same dichotomy plays out with Tim [TS]

00:05:29   Allen's character in this movie [TS]

00:05:31   well I can't believe that this movie [TS]

00:05:32   premiered in 1999 let's grab my gosh [TS]

00:05:34   that is crazy [TS]

00:05:36   yeah the 15-year old movie folks it's a [TS]

00:05:40   christmas day of 1990 night [TS]

00:05:42   no you're crazy so it is the movies [TS]

00:05:44   begins and ends in a sci-fi convention [TS]

00:05:46   and if you freeze frame you can see that [TS]

00:05:49   there are in the first few rows there [TS]

00:05:50   are people wearing various alien type [TS]

00:05:53   costumes although I thought it was [TS]

00:05:55   interesting that they're very much just [TS]

00:05:56   Klingons in the bathroom [TS]

00:05:58   they're always Klingons in the bathroom [TS]

00:06:00   it's it's great because you just have [TS]

00:06:01   that wall of identical people at the [TS]

00:06:04   urinals but they're all Klingon yeah [TS]

00:06:06   they mean think they could have made a [TS]

00:06:08   galaxy quest alien or something but [TS]

00:06:10   they're like now [TS]

00:06:11   weekly we call some people are Klingons [TS]

00:06:14   least they weren't stormtroopers so so [TS]

00:06:18   the the cast of Galaxy Quest is waiting [TS]

00:06:20   for Jason Nesmith Tim Allen to arrive [TS]

00:06:23   he's late their attention builds all of [TS]

00:06:27   their tensions from you get the sense [TS]

00:06:29   that they if they were not just a big [TS]

00:06:31   happy family as being there being [TS]

00:06:33   described out in the convention hall and [TS]

00:06:37   and they they all have something against [TS]

00:06:39   Tim Allen he finally shows up and they [TS]

00:06:43   go out onstage and of course Tim Allen [TS]

00:06:44   drinks in all of the agitation of the [TS]

00:06:46   crowd while they're all she [TS]

00:06:48   King daggers at him also there's a very [TS]

00:06:50   nice moment where they have to drag they [TS]

00:06:52   have to drag is that Rickman is that [TS]

00:06:55   here where Rickman yeah it's like he's [TS]

00:06:57   had his panic attack you had me i'm [TS]

00:06:59   usually takes off and they have to like [TS]

00:07:00   put a coat over and dragged him back [TS]

00:07:02   into the into the green room as he's as [TS]

00:07:05   he's a being announced at the show must [TS]

00:07:08   go on [TS]

00:07:08   you have a shot that's ok couldn't call [TS]

00:07:13   this home so good i mean if you would [TS]

00:07:16   describe this movie to me as being well [TS]

00:07:18   Alan Rickman plays a you know an English [TS]

00:07:22   actor who is very serious actor and he [TS]

00:07:25   thinks that this show is beneath him and [TS]

00:07:27   he doesn't let anybody forget I think [TS]

00:07:29   wow that's kind of a killjoy [TS]

00:07:30   you know that's not a i i i don't know [TS]

00:07:33   that doesn't sound that sounds really [TS]

00:07:34   obvious and kind of like not not very [TS]

00:07:36   funny and it is in reality quite funny [TS]

00:07:39   and they don't they don't ever make it [TS]

00:07:41   like you know I don't know didn't they [TS]

00:07:44   for whatever reason I think this movie [TS]

00:07:46   strikes up a pretty good balance between [TS]

00:07:49   making fun of the source material and [TS]

00:07:50   honoring the source material I never had [TS]

00:07:52   any points felt like this movie made fun [TS]

00:07:55   of me for liking star trek which is [TS]

00:07:59   tough because you do laugh at all of the [TS]

00:08:01   things that are silly about Star Trek [TS]

00:08:03   when you when you watch this movie and [TS]

00:08:04   yet i never felt bad about it or that it [TS]

00:08:06   was it was talking down to me in some [TS]

00:08:08   way and Alan Rickman's character would [TS]

00:08:10   would be a place where that could happen [TS]

00:08:11   and it doesn't happen i think right well [TS]

00:08:13   because you empathize with them [TS]

00:08:15   I mean you realize that he is a very [TS]

00:08:18   good actor and and and he never becomes [TS]

00:08:22   insufferable about it as asthma as hard [TS]

00:08:25   as he plays it as as far as they go with [TS]

00:08:27   it it never becomes too much to manage [TS]

00:08:30   to pull him back and sort of give him a [TS]

00:08:33   little humanity every every time it [TS]

00:08:34   threatens to like what he's doing the [TS]

00:08:36   the autograph signing and it's like yes [TS]

00:08:39   I'm on his I'm improvising with him [TS]

00:08:42   being bored out of his mind hearing the [TS]

00:08:43   same thing over and over again instead [TS]

00:08:45   of being the fan going oh let me do my [TS]

00:08:48   thing for you [TS]

00:08:49   I like the fact that I think this would [TS]

00:08:51   be good junction much is that i really [TS]

00:08:54   hate comedies that mug and in i think [TS]

00:08:56   you know but Tim Sam Rockwell comes the [TS]

00:09:00   closest to it is not monkeys [TS]

00:09:01   sort of but it is character is it was [TS]

00:09:04   over the top but this is played straight [TS]

00:09:06   even the aliens are plates play it [TS]

00:09:08   straight it's funny I mean this high-end [TS]

00:09:10   for comic effect but everything is [TS]

00:09:12   realistic within the structure of the [TS]

00:09:14   film and everything is played completely [TS]

00:09:16   straight which is amazing and that's why [TS]

00:09:20   I think they later get into some really [TS]

00:09:21   poignant and emotional moments because [TS]

00:09:23   they haven't made it into a joke even [TS]

00:09:26   though it's funny and even though some [TS]

00:09:27   things are ridiculous but they're true [TS]

00:09:28   and I think alan rickman is a great [TS]

00:09:31   stabilizing part of that because this [TS]

00:09:33   character is so earnest and then that [TS]

00:09:35   earnestness becomes a true thing later [TS]

00:09:37   when here is sort of ridiculous because [TS]

00:09:39   he knows out-of-work actor or not for [TS]

00:09:41   commercial actor areas i mean it's it's [TS]

00:09:44   sort of a balance I think about what the [TS]

00:09:45   radio script is being funny about it and [TS]

00:09:49   having fun with these styles and troops [TS]

00:09:52   and everything but also telling a [TS]

00:09:53   satisfying story with relatively normal [TS]

00:09:56   characters which is either it's a [TS]

00:10:00   tightrope it's fun but it is a tightrope [TS]

00:10:02   and as for you know not feeling like we [TS]

00:10:06   are being made fun of as fans by the [TS]

00:10:08   movie I don't think this movie would [TS]

00:10:10   have succeeded if that was that was how [TS]

00:10:12   it turned out because it's so clear that [TS]

00:10:15   this film was made with love for the [TS]

00:10:17   genre by people who you can't write a [TS]

00:10:20   script that's going to know all of these [TS]

00:10:21   little tiny ins and outs that well [TS]

00:10:23   unless you're somebody who's experienced [TS]

00:10:25   this and been watching these kinds of [TS]

00:10:26   shows for a long time so I yeah I also [TS]

00:10:29   never got the feeling that I was I was [TS]

00:10:31   being you know looked down upon the [TS]

00:10:34   filmmakers were not staring down their [TS]

00:10:35   nose at me in any way and I think Alan [TS]

00:10:38   Rickman's character also kind of fits [TS]

00:10:40   into that because he just he is trying [TS]

00:10:42   hard and there were a lot of people [TS]

00:10:45   making those shows that did the best [TS]

00:10:47   they could with what they had [TS]

00:10:49   he just you know he's he's trying to be [TS]

00:10:51   a good actor and he recognizes that that [TS]

00:10:54   wasn't always a as possible is it [TS]

00:10:56   sometimes is Scott the when you do [TS]

00:10:59   Rentrak I you know a lot of times those [TS]

00:11:01   episodes are detailing all the strange [TS]

00:11:04   and improbable things that happen in the [TS]

00:11:06   ridiculous things that happen [TS]

00:11:07   and I know you've had a few people say [TS]

00:11:10   you angry itunes reviewers like glad all [TS]

00:11:13   they do is make fun of Star Trek was [TS]

00:11:14   like it but it comes from a place of [TS]

00:11:16   love write it like that's where it [TS]

00:11:18   starts as I love this stuff and it's a [TS]

00:11:19   lot of fun and then you take it apart [TS]

00:11:21   but that's not you know you that you're [TS]

00:11:24   not you're not trying to mock people for [TS]

00:11:28   liking star trek because that's part of [TS]

00:11:29   the premises that of course we like it [TS]

00:11:31   but we commit we can laugh at some of [TS]

00:11:33   its quibbles to it strange things right [TS]

00:11:37   right why wouldn't i mean i wouldn't [TS]

00:11:40   spend my time talking about a show I [TS]

00:11:41   didn't like it so I mean that's the [TS]

00:11:45   first thing some people do they make my [TS]

00:11:47   monster would you be [TS]

00:11:49   I know what's at and that's why I think [TS]

00:11:51   that I mean it's not like we talked [TS]

00:11:52   about Voyager anything [TS]

00:11:55   well if it's you know even Voyager has [TS]

00:11:57   appeals yes but i think that what what [TS]

00:12:01   erica was saying I agree with completely [TS]

00:12:04   and you can tell that the the makers of [TS]

00:12:06   the movie like Star Trek and they are [TS]

00:12:09   there and science fiction in general and [TS]

00:12:12   fandom and they're celebrating it but [TS]

00:12:14   pointing out that you know I think [TS]

00:12:15   everyone who likes these kinds of shows [TS]

00:12:17   realizes at a certain level that is [TS]

00:12:20   ridiculous and that's part of its charm [TS]

00:12:22   and there are several sequences in the [TS]

00:12:25   movie that that bring that out you know [TS]

00:12:28   particularly the the where they have to [TS]

00:12:29   run through the the corridor with the [TS]

00:12:31   clam jumper yes designer Cherie never [TS]

00:12:37   wrote this episode should be dead but [TS]

00:12:40   when you start looking at it was a [TS]

00:12:42   little more critical of an eye you [TS]

00:12:43   notice it's its faults but when you're [TS]

00:12:46   just enjoying it [TS]

00:12:47   it doesn't matter you let it sit and [TS]

00:12:49   watch watch over you the one of the nice [TS]

00:12:51   things about this is that the fit the [TS]

00:12:53   the thing that makes the plot happen in [TS]

00:12:55   galaxy quest is that there is an alien [TS]

00:12:57   race that are fans of the show so the [TS]

00:13:00   the Thurman's come from a position of [TS]

00:13:03   fandom they appear at the at the [TS]

00:13:05   convention as fans and in the historical [TS]

00:13:08   document sure of the historical [TS]

00:13:10   documents absolutely but their fans [TS]

00:13:11   they're fans of the show [TS]

00:13:12   yeah they come to the convention there [TS]

00:13:13   dressed in the uniforms when they when [TS]

00:13:16   they bring Jason Nesmith onboard the [TS]

00:13:19   ship [TS]

00:13:20   they he thinks it's a it's the group [TS]

00:13:23   with justin long that's built their own [TS]

00:13:25   little bridge in somebody's garage and [TS]

00:13:28   he says wow that's pretty good better [TS]

00:13:30   than the usual and so so fandom kind of [TS]

00:13:34   drives the plot here in the sense that [TS]

00:13:36   there that the alien race their fans to [TS]

00:13:39   and they've they they they love it and [TS]

00:13:42   and the actors are the ones who have to [TS]

00:13:44   kind of understand the underlying [TS]

00:13:47   fictional aspects of try to I guess it [TS]

00:13:49   they don't break it to them gently in [TS]

00:13:51   fact they eventually are forced to break [TS]

00:13:53   it to them harshly that it's not a [TS]

00:13:54   historical document but Phantom is at [TS]

00:13:56   the heart of this movie because even [TS]

00:13:58   Thurman's to make the plot happen or [TS]

00:13:59   fans [TS]

00:14:00   yeah and also not just any average fan [TS]

00:14:04   these are sort of obsessive fans and the [TS]

00:14:07   Thurman's and and Justin Long and [TS]

00:14:09   friends and sort of their [TS]

00:14:11   over-exuberance and attention to detail [TS]

00:14:15   it is rewarded in a way which is kind of [TS]

00:14:19   fun and satisfying other in real life a [TS]

00:14:22   still still kind of probably don't need [TS]

00:14:24   to know all that information about the [TS]

00:14:25   utility players but you might get that [TS]

00:14:30   call one day [TS]

00:14:31   that's right where I where I say I said [TS]

00:14:33   Joe it's all real no and they wait a [TS]

00:14:39   second is going down what do i do I i [TS]

00:14:42   really like that both justin long as [TS]

00:14:44   group and I mean you can you can [TS]

00:14:45   actually compare them just a long screw [TS]

00:14:47   up with the Thurman's that that just as [TS]

00:14:49   long as group two is a crew they'll have [TS]

00:14:52   the uniforms they form you you get the [TS]

00:14:54   sense that that group spends time in [TS]

00:14:57   that garage that they've made the [TS]

00:14:59   protector bridge in and you know it i [TS]

00:15:03   like that it's not just like Justin [TS]

00:15:05   longer for him and a couple other people [TS]

00:15:07   it's like there's like five or six of [TS]

00:15:08   them [TS]

00:15:09   yeah at the at the convention and it's a [TS]

00:15:11   lovely balance of you know here these [TS]

00:15:14   two disparate groups who've come [TS]

00:15:16   together to work as a team and that's [TS]

00:15:18   what the main characters wind of [TS]

00:15:19   learning is there not a team at the [TS]

00:15:21   beginning they've only played it and [TS]

00:15:23   they become that from the examples it's [TS]

00:15:25   it's a lovely arc that was beautiful [TS]

00:15:28   David thank you [TS]

00:15:30   I don't think I realized until looking [TS]

00:15:32   at the wikipedia page of [TS]

00:15:33   comedians are from the clock too [TS]

00:15:35   nebulous oh yeah me and I love the fact [TS]

00:15:38   that their ship the prefix on the ship [TS]

00:15:40   is nte which is supposedly stands for [TS]

00:15:43   not the enterprise [TS]

00:15:44   oh that's awesome yeah instead instead [TS]

00:15:46   of ncc yeah uh-huh so it's not mine tres [TS]

00:15:51   bien jokes anyway the fermions transport [TS]

00:15:54   transport Jason Nesmith onto the [TS]

00:15:57   protector he thinks that this is [TS]

00:16:00   basically he's hungover he thinks that [TS]

00:16:02   this is justin long skirt raj he [TS]

00:16:04   basically says fire the red cannons fire [TS]

00:16:07   the blue came inspire everything [TS]

00:16:09   channeling a future eric bana in Star [TS]

00:16:11   Trek basically fire everything and he's [TS]

00:16:14   back home and i'll be and I'll just be [TS]

00:16:16   on my way [TS]

00:16:17   wasn't this but actually sort of [TS]

00:16:18   shafting them because if this was really [TS]

00:16:20   just as long as group he's given no [TS]

00:16:22   effort he's drunk their soda and showed [TS]

00:16:25   up at their bridge and barked a couple [TS]

00:16:27   of things and then walks out wants to go [TS]

00:16:29   home again but that goes badly 444 the [TS]

00:16:33   thermals because he doesn't kill saris [TS]

00:16:35   by just firing everything and and so [TS]

00:16:38   they have to come back and get him [TS]

00:16:40   shame i like the moment at the at the [TS]

00:16:43   the desk by it's not a best buy but the [TS]

00:16:46   the discount home electronics are we get [TS]

00:16:49   we get the moment of their all reading [TS]

00:16:51   their lines one by one leading up to [TS]

00:16:53   that wonderful moment of by grabthar's [TS]

00:16:55   hammer or the savings Gwen DeMarco cuts [TS]

00:16:59   he has the giant oversized scissors to [TS]

00:17:01   cut the ribbon and then they're doing [TS]

00:17:04   the signing afterward and I really like [TS]

00:17:05   that moment where where I Tim Allen runs [TS]

00:17:08   up to them and says it's all real [TS]

00:17:10   they were termites or Dalmatians and [TS]

00:17:12   they are completely done with him [TS]

00:17:16   they they are he didn't why do you even [TS]

00:17:18   bother showing up do you know what time [TS]

00:17:19   it is like there they are totally over [TS]

00:17:21   him and he suddenly become one of those [TS]

00:17:23   crazy fans who thinks that it's real [TS]

00:17:25   yeah and i really like what Glenn says [TS]

00:17:28   to him here where [TS]

00:17:29   she says you know it's one thing to [TS]

00:17:30   treat us this way to another to treat [TS]

00:17:32   treat your fans like this because in the [TS]

00:17:36   previous scene where they were signing [TS]

00:17:37   stuff at the convention he was treating [TS]

00:17:39   the fans very well up until that point [TS]

00:17:40   where he overheard the Klingons and the [TS]

00:17:45   guys who want to click on guys we [TS]

00:17:46   hanging next to the Klingons the guys [TS]

00:17:48   were too cool at the convention yeah and [TS]

00:17:50   why are there i don't know i was one [TS]

00:17:53   here to make fun of the nerds [TS]

00:17:55   yeah i'm gonna make themselves feel [TS]

00:17:56   better by putting down other people [TS]

00:17:58   those are the saddest people at the [TS]

00:18:00   conventions those are the bad people [TS]

00:18:02   right and the movie knows that those [TS]

00:18:04   those are the real Klingons a movie [TS]

00:18:06   knows those people are bad people those [TS]

00:18:07   are the true enemy in this movie there's [TS]

00:18:09   saris but really have those two guys [TS]

00:18:10   because those were the sea quest fan [TS]

00:18:12   worse than Hitler yeah you're right [TS]

00:18:14   you're right I she says you treat your [TS]

00:18:16   fans this way and he's run into Justin [TS]

00:18:18   Long and and there's that switch of the [TS]

00:18:21   communicators which is important later [TS]

00:18:22   and and then then Thurman's arrive again [TS]

00:18:26   and and I I like that they're only way [TS]

00:18:30   that Jason can get them to come back to [TS]

00:18:33   the the clock to nebula is because they [TS]

00:18:37   realize that although he's drunk and [TS]

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00:21:23   uncomfortable [TS]

00:21:24   we you know we glossed over one thing [TS]

00:21:26   though as want to point out is on this [TS]

00:21:28   film has really uneven special effects [TS]

00:21:30   the cgi is kind of all over the place [TS]

00:21:32   and some of the costume and prosthetic [TS]

00:21:34   work is weird at times although like [TS]

00:21:37   with like saris will get two verses the [TS]

00:21:40   Thurman's are some of the octopus [TS]

00:21:43   reveals and so forth but the bit where [TS]

00:21:45   he goes forgotten how like well the [TS]

00:21:49   whole film Rican sieves the star trek [TS]

00:21:52   universe and all the troops were used to [TS]

00:21:54   and I think a really interesting and [TS]

00:21:57   wonderful way like I thought they could [TS]

00:21:59   have just recycled things but everything [TS]

00:22:01   is kind of different the transit [TS]

00:22:02   teleportation thing is different and the [TS]

00:22:05   fact that somebody came up with this [TS]

00:22:06   idea oh he's gonna stand in a pad and [TS]

00:22:08   cover him with goo and he's gonna [TS]

00:22:10   actually personally fly through open [TS]

00:22:12   space was fantastic i like that I've [TS]

00:22:16   never seen anything quite like that [TS]

00:22:17   before and I like that throughout they [TS]

00:22:20   were always acting in response to so [TS]

00:22:22   nothing was exactly what we expected i [TS]

00:22:25   mean the bridge arrangement was very [TS]

00:22:26   similar of course but but the actual [TS]

00:22:28   technology and effects they kind of they [TS]

00:22:31   purposely put us off and came up with [TS]

00:22:34   some wonderful Rican sexual relations we [TS]

00:22:36   should talk about the special effects a [TS]

00:22:37   little bit if only there was somebody [TS]

00:22:39   here who perhaps professionally works on [TS]

00:22:43   motion pictures potential effects so Joe [TS]

00:22:47   how do you think he's a special fat guy [TS]

00:22:50   how do you how do you rate the the [TS]

00:22:53   effects in galaxy quest and at well I [TS]

00:22:56   island did them and this is that period [TS]

00:22:59   where LM had fallen out of favor with [TS]

00:23:01   paramount for whatever reason and the [TS]

00:23:05   the star trek movie before this was Star [TS]

00:23:08   Trek insurrection and it was done by [TS]

00:23:09   santa barbara studios [TS]

00:23:11   so if you want to talk about even [TS]

00:23:13   special effects maybe look at that movie [TS]

00:23:15   and the local movie star trek movie [TS]

00:23:19   after this is nemesis just by digital [TS]

00:23:21   domain and i would say that of those [TS]

00:23:24   three movies with galaxy quest in the [TS]

00:23:27   middle i would I think that the galaxy [TS]

00:23:29   quest effects probably hold up better [TS]

00:23:31   than some of like the over bloomed over [TS]

00:23:34   stylized stuff in a digital domains work [TS]

00:23:39   and in nemesis and hold up better than [TS]

00:23:42   sort of the soft plasticky weirdness in [TS]

00:23:44   instructor construction in there are of [TS]

00:23:48   course technical things where the this [TS]

00:23:50   is you know 1999 they weren't really [TS]

00:23:52   great at making little people so they [TS]

00:23:55   don't really have like skin that feels [TS]

00:23:58   or looks like skin they're not quite as [TS]

00:24:01   articulate as you might expect [TS]

00:24:03   that the GU as Glenn was pointing out [TS]

00:24:05   has little air bubbles in it and it [TS]

00:24:07   doesn't really like slosh around the [TS]

00:24:09   right way and totally have that space [TS]

00:24:12   goo sloshes though [TS]

00:24:13   yeah alright i have a canonical space on [TS]

00:24:16   a regular good its canonical spacesuit [TS]

00:24:18   yeah you ordered on amazon by the tank [TS]

00:24:21   the yeah so it's it it's it's really [TS]

00:24:25   good for its time I think especially if [TS]

00:24:27   you look at it through the lens of the [TS]

00:24:30   other surrounding Star Trek movies that [TS]

00:24:32   were that were out it it's not as good [TS]

00:24:36   as it would be of course those done [TS]

00:24:38   today but but i really like it yeah i [TS]

00:24:42   love the I love the octopus thing I I [TS]

00:24:46   think those are really weird neat [TS]

00:24:49   those are all practical Stan Winston [TS]

00:24:52   stuff along with saris and his henchmen [TS]

00:24:56   and I kind of serious i love the fact [TS]

00:24:57   that he's so articulated and he has a [TS]

00:24:59   weird parts of his body moving at all [TS]

00:25:01   even I thought you looked great and i [TS]

00:25:03   almost never notice special effect [TS]

00:25:06   well it would put it fits in it it fits [TS]

00:25:07   into it like its bet we're inside the [TS]

00:25:09   joke outside the joke at the same time [TS]

00:25:10   so that were both looking at it as if [TS]

00:25:14   it's fake and real we're watching a [TS]

00:25:16   movie so we know it's fake but but it [TS]

00:25:18   has to be convincing in the film and so [TS]

00:25:20   it seems to cut her it crosses that gap [TS]

00:25:23   to which is cool [TS]

00:25:24   also I noticed this time again the [TS]

00:25:26   everytime i watch this movie i think i [TS]

00:25:28   noticed that Sarah's has an English [TS]

00:25:29   accent in the grand tradition of English [TS]

00:25:31   actors who are unrecognizable in a suit [TS]

00:25:33   and i always think that I really enjoy [TS]

00:25:36   saris and and it's only at the end when [TS]

00:25:38   I look at the credits that I realized [TS]

00:25:40   that it's robin sachs who has been in a [TS]

00:25:42   million things including Buffy and [TS]

00:25:45   Babylon 5 and and he's great he's a [TS]

00:25:48   minbari and babble i think it was [TS]

00:25:49   multiple he was also an art and Babylon [TS]

00:25:51   5 Erica you nobody and I don't remember [TS]

00:25:53   and he's and he's the he's a Charles's [TS]

00:25:57   evil black magic friend in Buffy yes [TS]

00:26:00   there and he's these saris in this but [TS]

00:26:04   you know I think you can't even see him [TS]

00:26:06   I don't think even the mouth is him [TS]

00:26:08   moving his mouth I think that's all a [TS]

00:26:11   prosthetic but it's great and he's named [TS]

00:26:14   for film critic Anders serious [TS]

00:26:16   so you gotta love [TS]

00:26:17   a movie that names a villain for film [TS]

00:26:19   critic boo [TS]

00:26:22   uh-huh let's see what were where I so [TS]

00:26:26   they when they when they when they beam [TS]

00:26:28   back or groove travel whatever back to [TS]

00:26:32   VA they left the channel open and all of [TS]

00:26:33   that right they they end up marveling [TS]

00:26:37   over where they are and it turns out not [TS]

00:26:39   to be the ship it's the space station [TS]

00:26:40   and that's important because one of the [TS]

00:26:43   really funny jokes for me in this movie [TS]

00:26:45   is they have the giant slowly loving [TS]

00:26:49   starship reveal shot ii which is there [TS]

00:26:54   are lots of movies to do this but Star [TS]

00:26:56   Trek the motion picture is the most [TS]

00:26:57   egregious at its loving pan over shot a [TS]

00:27:01   starship and then the painfully slow [TS]

00:27:03   scene where they take it out of [TS]

00:27:05   Spacedock low-larious only because of [TS]

00:27:08   this great being but as well yeah in the [TS]

00:27:11   end that's the best in the end but that [TS]

00:27:14   is the best joke about it but I'll i [TS]

00:27:15   just love i laugh everytime i see those [TS]

00:27:17   loving pans as them as the theme music [TS]

00:27:19   comes up of the ship because come on [TS]

00:27:23   oh yeah full chorus of voices going [TS]

00:27:26   behind it it it since all their full [TS]

00:27:29   blast we skip the one great scene where [TS]

00:27:32   they land though with a GU takes from [TS]

00:27:34   there and then the gibbering all of them [TS]

00:27:36   jubrey airways and then and that the [TS]

00:27:39   octopus creatures showing up and the [TS]

00:27:41   whole thing it's his totally [TS]

00:27:43   over-the-top and wonderful just shaking [TS]

00:27:46   and then as Joey's putting guys scream [TS]

00:27:48   at the screen and then Tony she was just [TS]

00:27:51   really sweet moment yet oh my god I have [TS]

00:27:53   so loud i was wearing headphones wife [TS]

00:27:55   stopped me last night said what do you [TS]

00:27:57   have not tried a reminder of that seems [TS]

00:27:59   there's just always start laughing and [TS]

00:28:00   laughing so perfect that was a hell of a [TS]

00:28:02   thing what's wrong with them [TS]

00:28:05   I love Tony Shalhoub industries I don't [TS]

00:28:09   expect it I don't know who decided to [TS]

00:28:10   say just play them really really stoned [TS]

00:28:12   the whole way from and trying to keep [TS]

00:28:15   eating it works [TS]

00:28:18   yeah meeting oh my god that seems it's [TS]

00:28:20   amazing it is amazing that was a hell of [TS]

00:28:23   a thing [TS]

00:28:24   yeah just amazing so I love that again [TS]

00:28:29   to go to that [TS]

00:28:30   that visit to a weird planet revisited [TS]

00:28:33   kind of thing the idea that that this [TS]

00:28:35   isn't a parallel universe is built on [TS]

00:28:37   their TV show has that wonderful moment [TS]

00:28:39   where Darrell chill Mitchell as Tommy is [TS]

00:28:43   sitting in the in the Sulu chair [TS]

00:28:44   basically and saying boy I'm glad I'm [TS]

00:28:47   not the sucker who asked a sitting at [TS]

00:28:49   command chair and Tim Allen turns to him [TS]

00:28:51   and says take us out the radio and [TS]

00:28:53   that's beautiful but it's also this idea [TS]

00:28:57   of like a bit they based it on your hand [TS]

00:28:59   movements and I've read interviews with [TS]

00:29:01   like Star Trek people like especially on [TS]

00:29:02   the next generation where they had a [TS]

00:29:04   flat panels with the the cutout lights [TS]

00:29:06   behind them so that literally there [TS]

00:29:07   there was nothing that they would make [TS]

00:29:10   up like what did what with their hand [TS]

00:29:12   gestures just to be consistent like from [TS]

00:29:16   not only from take to take and for [TS]

00:29:18   continuity purposes but just I think for [TS]

00:29:19   their own sanity like they would come up [TS]

00:29:21   with a little game of like this is how i [TS]

00:29:22   scanned for life-forms and so that made [TS]

00:29:24   me laugh that they're like no no [TS]

00:29:25   whatever you did that's what you need to [TS]

00:29:28   do just do that that's that is a [TS]

00:29:31   standard actor thing I mean active if [TS]

00:29:33   especially if you're going to be doing a [TS]

00:29:34   repetitive thing and end in a series but [TS]

00:29:38   even even just in a play [TS]

00:29:40   they they need the absolute consistency [TS]

00:29:42   of what they're going to do so they know [TS]

00:29:44   what they're doing you know maybe [TS]

00:29:45   they're attaching it to the words [TS]

00:29:47   they're saying or the actions that [TS]

00:29:48   they're doing but especially when you've [TS]

00:29:50   got something like this yes they they [TS]

00:29:52   need to have that easy to remember [TS]

00:29:54   repetitive thing and especially in like [TS]

00:29:57   a science-fiction thing because people [TS]

00:29:59   are gonna notice that but but that all [TS]

00:30:01   that all goes into the the scenes in [TS]

00:30:03   this movie we're at several points [TS]

00:30:05   basically the actors are told [TS]

00:30:07   just do what you did in the show because [TS]

00:30:09   that's that's what we based it on so you [TS]

00:30:12   just do that and and you know he doesn't [TS]

00:30:15   laredo doesn't get it quite right and so [TS]

00:30:17   we get that great after all of this [TS]

00:30:19   Majesty he scrapes the side of the ship [TS]

00:30:22   down the down the entire space and I'll [TS]

00:30:25   i like how this the scraping of the ship [TS]

00:30:27   is is every bit as long and extra [TS]

00:30:31   uncomfortable as any of those loving [TS]

00:30:32   pans were talking about your schooling [TS]

00:30:35   and then [TS]

00:30:35   go on and on it and the students are [TS]

00:30:38   extruding 8i just cringe might like my [TS]

00:30:41   head my ears just go closer and closer [TS]

00:30:43   to my shoulders the longer the it's [TS]

00:30:47   great in it there's also a a guy [TS]

00:30:49   hovering over him like this sort of [TS]

00:30:52   attempting to supervisors process [TS]

00:30:54   yea it hit it like he has any real idea [TS]

00:30:58   and it leaves a mark but you know he may [TS]

00:31:00   actually have more ideas since he's been [TS]

00:31:02   watching the show for me [TS]

00:31:04   yeah i'm just-just about being on the [TS]

00:31:07   show man happens around know they they [TS]

00:31:10   go on their their tour donde of the the [TS]

00:31:12   barracks and there's an infinite hallway [TS]

00:31:15   that we never see again of all of the of [TS]

00:31:18   the people by their saluting him very [TS]

00:31:21   long very large ship lots of people on [TS]

00:31:23   it want to let me go like throwing [TS]

00:31:24   gasoline on a flame [TS]

00:31:28   I like that they spent so much like I [TS]

00:31:30   mean putting this whole trip together [TS]

00:31:31   had to be in astronomical haha pun [TS]

00:31:33   intended [TS]

00:31:34   if astronomical cost but they also then [TS]

00:31:37   shelled out for every single crewmember [TS]

00:31:39   to have one of the little you know [TS]

00:31:41   cloaking things so that they could look [TS]

00:31:42   like a human and fit in on the shit even [TS]

00:31:44   though they're all like octopi creatures [TS]

00:31:46   well that's how they match the [TS]

00:31:48   historical documents accuracy is [TS]

00:31:49   important so there's another there's [TS]

00:31:52   another confrontation with saris and [TS]

00:31:55   this is as somebody who loves Star Trek [TS]

00:31:57   to this is a star trek to moment gone [TS]

00:32:00   horribly wrong [TS]

00:32:01   where there's the the confrontation [TS]

00:32:03   across the finish two ships across the [TS]

00:32:05   View screens and Kim Alan gives the cut [TS]

00:32:09   you know museum gesture and then said [TS]

00:32:13   since you know he's super busy as ugly [TS]

00:32:15   and all those things all the while a is [TS]

00:32:18   going we were trying to get his [TS]

00:32:19   attention to point out that he can still [TS]

00:32:21   hear him thats that's a beautiful thing [TS]

00:32:24   because you know you just assume when [TS]

00:32:26   you do the thing like Captain Kirk does [TS]

00:32:27   the thing and it's done right you you [TS]

00:32:30   guys on mute now it was funny but it was [TS]

00:32:32   a little bit annoying because she just [TS]

00:32:34   kept saying his name instead of saying [TS]

00:32:36   you know she could've just let your [TS]

00:32:37   woman that [TS]

00:32:38   yeah exactly well I mean it was one of [TS]

00:32:40   those things were the first time she [TS]

00:32:41   said they were just like I know exactly [TS]

00:32:43   where this is going but I not to not to [TS]

00:32:48   derail this moment but they're there is [TS]

00:32:51   of course the important realization when [TS]

00:32:53   they are eating and they see the tape of [TS]

00:32:56   the previously here being tortured [TS]

00:32:57   yes and they realize that this isn't the [TS]

00:32:59   fun tour that they thought they were [TS]

00:33:00   going on and they all freak out and want [TS]

00:33:03   to leave at that point that this wasn't [TS]

00:33:05   going to be what it was gonna crack up [TS]

00:33:08   there they all want to leave but saris [TS]

00:33:09   is already in range and they can't [TS]

00:33:11   escape they would be destroyed by saris [TS]

00:33:13   if they were in their little group odds [TS]

00:33:17   mhm also that that's got a great moment [TS]

00:33:19   where where Alan Rickman is told that [TS]

00:33:24   they have synthesized his favorite meals [TS]

00:33:26   from his home planet blood takes blood [TS]

00:33:31   tix I want the ones that jumped out and [TS]

00:33:35   pops back down in here I don't think he [TS]

00:33:38   was that hungry because it and that [TS]

00:33:41   that's actually that that scene set up [TS]

00:33:43   really well where you think that what [TS]

00:33:45   you're going to get is the Tim Allen's [TS]

00:33:47   going to be grossed out by the fact that [TS]

00:33:48   this steak that he's eating is not [TS]

00:33:49   actually a stake by the synthetic steak [TS]

00:33:51   but he's like nope it's great and it's [TS]

00:33:54   NT pan down and it's alan rickman who's [TS]

00:33:56   got alien bugs in a in a in a wine glass [TS]

00:33:59   and worms sorry bugs and worms Scott [TS]

00:34:02   this a star trek call out this reminds [TS]

00:34:04   me of that conspiracy episode [TS]

00:34:06   no yes where everyone's eating a world [TS]

00:34:09   terms that's right of goblets and you [TS]

00:34:12   get that moment like to i eat the bugs [TS]

00:34:14   and the worms to prove that i'm who i'm [TS]

00:34:17   not actually or do I just drop them and [TS]

00:34:20   fire somebody with a phaser which is [TS]

00:34:21   what Riker does cuz he's that was a man [TS]

00:34:23   of action [TS]

00:34:24   yes that's what two melons character [TS]

00:34:26   would do let's see what else so so mine [TS]

00:34:30   fields are we up to the mine field now i [TS]

00:34:32   think is the turbo button a conflict [TS]

00:34:35   first but but then minefield immediately [TS]

00:34:38   following are the minefield i like [TS]

00:34:40   because that's it that's actually a [TS]

00:34:41   george lucas feel more than you know [TS]

00:34:44   that star wars movies it's always like [TS]

00:34:46   you know space is vast and there are not [TS]

00:34:48   like feel asteroid fields don't have [TS]

00:34:50   just like rocks everywhere that you have [TS]

00:34:52   to dart around that's not how it works [TS]

00:34:54   and the the minefield feels like that [TS]

00:34:56   were now we've got our little millennium [TS]

00:34:57   fawlcon kind of chase scene where we're [TS]

00:34:59   saris ship is like Darth Vader in Empire [TS]

00:35:03   Strikes Back saying no we don't have to [TS]

00:35:04   go in there just yet and you know send [TS]

00:35:07   somebody in to find them and they're [TS]

00:35:08   dodging the mines and competently [TS]

00:35:10   because they don't they're actors and [TS]

00:35:14   don't have a stewardship and one of the [TS]

00:35:17   other things I also liked about the my [TS]

00:35:18   field is it's not really clear with this [TS]

00:35:19   minefield is actually guarding but i [TS]

00:35:22   don't think this is really spaced it go [TS]

00:35:26   it's like a barrel it's a red it's a [TS]

00:35:27   rectangle a three-dimensional rectangle [TS]

00:35:29   a shape of months just like you know [TS]

00:35:31   like it's like a cleanse me of an [TS]

00:35:34   enterprise episode [TS]

00:35:36   yeah Oh block and cheese that you would [TS]

00:35:39   get at costco it's a block of cheese [TS]

00:35:40   shaped minefield why maybe there's [TS]

00:35:44   something really cool with the center of [TS]

00:35:45   it like a block of cheese sniper could [TS]

00:35:47   be could be some fine aged cheddar or [TS]

00:35:52   some manchego sure there's a sheep [TS]

00:35:54   there's a sheep giving milk and then the [TS]

00:35:56   replicator turns it into I don't know [TS]

00:35:58   the they have damaged by the minefield [TS]

00:36:02   this beryllium sphere is his fractured [TS]

00:36:05   this is their dilithium crystal [TS]

00:36:06   equivalent the beryllium sphere another [TS]

00:36:09   thing like I know it's not dilithium [TS]

00:36:10   crystals but they they created a neat [TS]

00:36:12   effect for it so it actually stands on [TS]

00:36:14   its own it's completely inexplicable I'd [TS]

00:36:16   i love that I mean this forgets that [TS]

00:36:18   reverse engineering thing which is so [TS]

00:36:19   geeky the reverse engineer everything [TS]

00:36:21   about the show and they made things that [TS]

00:36:22   were impossible real because they didn't [TS]

00:36:24   know any better [TS]

00:36:25   including this floating beryllium sphere [TS]

00:36:26   that apparently lets them do this crazy [TS]

00:36:29   space travel stuff [TS]

00:36:30   berlian like lithium is a real element [TS]

00:36:34   turned into something totally ridiculous [TS]

00:36:37   and fictional so the beryllium sphere is [TS]

00:36:41   fractured so now we get to have our away [TS]

00:36:43   mission because the star trek episode [TS]

00:36:45   would not be complete without a mission [TS]

00:36:47   to a planet surface they have the scene [TS]

00:36:51   in the computer room this is the one [TS]

00:36:52   that i mentioned earlier where we're [TS]

00:36:54   Sigourney Weaver repeats everything that [TS]

00:36:56   is said by everybody to and from the [TS]

00:36:57   computer and that goes on a long time to [TS]

00:37:01   and yet it's very funny that it's just [TS]

00:37:02   she [TS]

00:37:03   look I have one job on this lousy ship [TS]

00:37:05   it's stupid but I'm going to do it [TS]

00:37:06   that's great that's a great line and [TS]

00:37:08   this is also the moment where we [TS]

00:37:09   discover that for the Thurman's there is [TS]

00:37:13   no greater tragedy in all of the world [TS]

00:37:15   than the story of Gilligan's Island he [TS]

00:37:18   was poor people poor people i also liked [TS]

00:37:25   the presentation of somebody any of the [TS]

00:37:27   chatroom said that remember mentioned [TS]

00:37:28   Enrico Colantoni cool that's cool into [TS]

00:37:30   Colantoni during comic-con according to [TS]

00:37:34   google and it hurts in four reboot glen [TS]

00:37:37   and remodeling tony is in this as masses [TS]

00:37:40   are and he's great and you may know him [TS]

00:37:42   although he's hard to recognize as a [TS]

00:37:45   Veronica Mars is dad that's how I have [TS]

00:37:47   come to know where that guy from just [TS]

00:37:49   shoot me Enrique and that's right yeah [TS]

00:37:51   he's well-known TV at always gonna be [TS]

00:37:53   Keith Mars to me but it's a purpose of [TS]

00:37:55   the the interpretation comes up with a [TS]

00:37:57   true or are only oh it's just that [TS]

00:38:00   hollowness it's perfectly consistent and [TS]

00:38:03   he's the one who has been talking like [TS]

00:38:04   that for a week now [TS]

00:38:06   thanks guys thanks for making me want to [TS]

00:38:09   move to Canada you pay the price [TS]

00:38:11   really for people whose poor people it's [TS]

00:38:16   a but it's it's great it's a great stick [TS]

00:38:18   because it doesn't it's not so annoying [TS]

00:38:20   that wears thin and then he and the [TS]

00:38:22   other actors bring out the pathos of [TS]

00:38:24   them doing this you know shadow of a [TS]

00:38:27   shadow thing that they're sincere about [TS]

00:38:29   it funny how it's like this ridiculous [TS]

00:38:31   thing and then it becomes sadder and [TS]

00:38:32   sadder as the movie comes out goes on as [TS]

00:38:35   they reveal more of the horrible truth [TS]

00:38:37   in small parts a rain Wilson is one of [TS]

00:38:40   the Thurman's from the office and and [TS]

00:38:44   Patrick brain is quick who is a that's a [TS]

00:38:47   very good character who's got a couple [TS]

00:38:48   very good scenes I should know to the [TS]

00:38:50   Spacedock seen it comes back I didn't [TS]

00:38:52   realize this until watching the film the [TS]

00:38:53   second time a long time ago is the [TS]

00:38:55   destroyed planet is all around the [TS]

00:38:57   Spacedock you don't realize until i talk [TS]

00:38:58   about it later that the space doctors in [TS]

00:39:01   the middle of nowhere and they sort of [TS]

00:39:02   give you one shot where you see like [TS]

00:39:03   bits of stuff floating around and that's [TS]

00:39:06   where they're from that's their [TS]

00:39:07   homeworld for me as but you have blown [TS]

00:39:10   to bits [TS]

00:39:11   I'm not sure how it exploded quite like [TS]

00:39:13   that to have just a little mushroom [TS]

00:39:15   shape left to the planet [TS]

00:39:17   let's get this force field at yeah sure [TS]

00:39:21   that's true [TS]

00:39:22   like they click on energy moon praxis [TS]

00:39:23   hmm that's very good i was gonna say [TS]

00:39:25   Scott Scott emerges from the bushes [TS]

00:39:29   drops car Star Trek reference [TS]

00:39:31   thank you Kono's back into the bushes [TS]

00:39:34   okay so so they go down to the planet [TS]

00:39:37   shuttlecraft essentially and I and that [TS]

00:39:41   leads to a bunch of great scenes [TS]

00:39:44   including the demand that they test for [TS]

00:39:46   oxygen and Tony Shalhoub just does some [TS]

00:39:49   sniffing and determines seems fine to me [TS]

00:39:53   because at this is sam rockwell that is [TS]

00:39:56   most freaked out that he's gonna die and [TS]

00:39:58   he's going to be a Richard because he [TS]

00:39:59   died he was killed by lava monster [TS]

00:40:00   episode 81 so you think that's gonna [TS]

00:40:02   happen again [TS]

00:40:03   yeah and I love a while well he's [TS]

00:40:06   sniffing about Sam Rockwell is this [TS]

00:40:08   holding its breath [TS]

00:40:09   yeah look that's gonna do anything at [TS]

00:40:11   all and they see they so they go again [TS]

00:40:15   one to another wonderful Star Trek thing [TS]

00:40:17   reminded me of actually i think where no [TS]

00:40:20   man has gone before [TS]

00:40:22   Scott but numerous Star Trek episodes [TS]

00:40:25   where there's the big matte painting so [TS]

00:40:27   they come over the the hill of this [TS]

00:40:29   rocky area that looks like you know [TS]

00:40:31   basically Vasquez rocks and you know [TS]

00:40:33   across with Arizona and there's a [TS]

00:40:36   wonderful like matte painting of a [TS]

00:40:38   mining colony right out of Star Trek [TS]

00:40:41   episode and and somebody actually says [TS]

00:40:45   looks like some sort of mining colony [TS]

00:40:47   which is just played perfectly straight [TS]

00:40:49   and like come on you an expert in [TS]

00:40:52   planetary mining colony [TS]

00:40:54   that's right automated mining colony [TS]

00:40:56   well is it it looks like a matte [TS]

00:40:58   painting from their show but it does so [TS]

00:41:02   they see little there there little um [TS]

00:41:04   their little monsters their little [TS]

00:41:05   aliens there i guess they're not [TS]

00:41:07   monsters yet we don't know that they're [TS]

00:41:08   monsters [TS]

00:41:09   that's racist and this is this is a [TS]

00:41:10   place where where the [TS]

00:41:14   that guy's knowledge of the show comes [TS]

00:41:16   in handy because he at one point [TS]

00:41:17   declares exactly what's going to happen [TS]

00:41:19   a couple of minutes before it does was [TS]

00:41:21   like there's gonna be more of them [TS]

00:41:22   returned mean this is another scene that [TS]

00:41:26   really bothers me actually this is the [TS]

00:41:28   one seen the movie i think that bothers [TS]

00:41:29   me the most because you have Sigourney [TS]

00:41:31   Weaver's character suddenly being [TS]

00:41:33   completely stupid and wanting to like [TS]

00:41:35   run out there just because they happen [TS]

00:41:36   to be cute little not only here to like [TS]

00:41:39   I have more to say about her park or [TS]

00:41:41   lack thereof once we get to the end but [TS]

00:41:43   this was this was the moment where I [TS]

00:41:44   kind of turned on the movie for a moment [TS]

00:41:46   and was like how dare you [TS]

00:41:48   she's been acting really dumb here let [TS]

00:41:50   me pause the discussion just remember to [TS]

00:41:52   tell you about something cool that we're [TS]

00:41:53   doing this holiday season you know we [TS]

00:41:55   done like 220 plus episodes of the [TS]

00:41:57   incomparable at this point and i always [TS]

00:42:00   want to tell people like oh go back and [TS]

00:42:02   listen to that great episode we did [TS]

00:42:03   three years ago about toys that we got [TS]

00:42:05   when we were kids and you know what the [TS]

00:42:07   way people listen to podcasts is in [TS]

00:42:09   their podcast app not on a webpage where [TS]

00:42:11   they're searching for old podcast so [TS]

00:42:13   what I did is this year I built this [TS]

00:42:16   crazy thing that's like an advent [TS]

00:42:17   calendar in podcast form so if you want [TS]

00:42:21   to hear some great and comfortable stuff [TS]

00:42:23   about the holidays from the past and [TS]

00:42:25   maybe some bonuses and other things that [TS]

00:42:27   you'll find interesting go to the [TS]

00:42:29   incomparable calm / holiday there are [TS]

00:42:31   links to just subscribe to something [TS]

00:42:33   we're calling the incomparable holiday [TS]

00:42:35   box and every day in December between [TS]

00:42:38   the first and the 25th you will get [TS]

00:42:40   something I don't know what I I'm still [TS]

00:42:42   making it up as I go along from the past [TS]

00:42:45   and maybe some other bonus stuff that's [TS]

00:42:46   holiday-related and I think it might be [TS]

00:42:48   kind of fun and maybe we'll keep doing [TS]

00:42:50   it into the new year as a like a rerun [TS]

00:42:51   channel for great old episodes but check [TS]

00:42:54   it out the incomparable holiday box the [TS]

00:42:56   incomparable calm / holiday [TS]

00:42:58   ok back to galaxy quest so so they they [TS]

00:43:01   the little blue alien guys eat their [TS]

00:43:05   crippled friend the carom limb from limb [TS]

00:43:09   as you do and there's a there's a panic [TS]

00:43:12   and everybody wants to run but they got [TS]

00:43:14   to get the brilliant spear so in the end [TS]

00:43:17   they Jason Nesmith this is his moment to [TS]

00:43:19   shine right he he he starts barking [TS]

00:43:22   orders and it's very impressive until [TS]

00:43:24   somebody points out that those are all [TS]

00:43:26   the orders from that app [TS]

00:43:27   so'd where sam rockwell got killed and [TS]

00:43:31   there's a very nice moment where is it [TS]

00:43:33   is it Lorraine know that the tries to [TS]

00:43:37   lie and say it was a different episode [TS]

00:43:38   her don't know [TS]

00:43:40   61 o yea 61 right just to shut up since [TS]

00:43:44   I this leads to rock monster rock [TS]

00:43:50   lobster sandwiches and a big lizard and [TS]

00:43:54   always an appetizer transporting it is [TS]

00:43:57   so there's turns inside millions there's [TS]

00:43:59   a Rock Monster in this pic lizard so [TS]

00:44:01   that there's no changing rock rock will [TS]

00:44:03   translate it rock rock rock rock no I [TS]

00:44:05   like the translating is the last thing [TS]

00:44:07   that they thought to do you have any [TS]

00:44:10   other types i don't care about the the [TS]

00:44:12   Rock Monster this is where the deleted [TS]

00:44:14   scene is actually useful [TS]

00:44:15   there's a call forward but you so you [TS]

00:44:18   know Kim the two main characters getting [TS]

00:44:20   adjacent getting a beating up there and [TS]

00:44:23   he speak dragged around he loses the [TS]

00:44:25   shirt of course and you know what's is [TS]

00:44:28   what's his colleague back in the ship [TS]

00:44:29   talking about it's like you don't [TS]

00:44:30   respect the art you to get inside his [TS]

00:44:32   head [TS]

00:44:33   well the deleted scene is actually Alan [TS]

00:44:35   Rickman going on i put a link in the [TS]

00:44:37   chat room i found a russian version of [TS]

00:44:40   it in tight subtitles where the [TS]

00:44:41   subtitles translate back to english and [TS]

00:44:43   it's hilarious but it's a extended scene [TS]

00:44:45   where it goes on too long without and [TS]

00:44:47   that's why they call it is alan rickman [TS]

00:44:49   is trying to do the method acting like [TS]

00:44:50   what is the Rock Monster want silence [TS]

00:44:52   all this noise at once silence and [TS]

00:44:54   there's a call is a payoff much later [TS]

00:44:56   that doesn't make sense in the actual [TS]

00:44:57   movie its kind of thrown away for that [TS]

00:44:59   deleted scene I window when the rock [TS]

00:45:01   monster gets ejected into space yeah and [TS]

00:45:03   all of a sudden in the I think there's [TS]

00:45:05   actually a slightly different version [TS]

00:45:06   that's in the deleted scene as well [TS]

00:45:08   the one the movie is abrupt the rock [TS]

00:45:10   monster goes hey relax is when it's in [TS]

00:45:12   the silence of space if it's a beautiful [TS]

00:45:15   day off that you know doesn't matter [TS]

00:45:17   there's a little bit of a scene in the [TS]

00:45:18   original but it's actually worth seeing [TS]

00:45:20   the deleted scene just for that little [TS]

00:45:21   little payoff but I [TS]

00:45:23   yeah but it's a wonderful amazing it's a [TS]

00:45:25   beautiful thing that he winds up with [TS]

00:45:26   his shirt off and with like nice bloody [TS]

00:45:30   marks that of course don't seem to cause [TS]

00:45:31   many problems at all aren't still [TS]

00:45:33   bleeding but it's the very very captain [TS]

00:45:34   cookie it's so Shatner shirts and then [TS]

00:45:37   they say it when he gets beamed up later [TS]

00:45:40   is you know of course just shoot lose [TS]

00:45:42   your shirt there by like this is a [TS]

00:45:45   reference to [TS]

00:45:46   I think mostly to the enemy within where [TS]

00:45:50   they the the transporter hasn't been [TS]

00:45:52   tested and again it's based on context [TS]

00:45:56   sergeant changs hand movement since this [TS]

00:45:59   is a moment where Tony Shalhoub loses it [TS]

00:46:01   is freaked out and doesn't want to do [TS]

00:46:02   this because they try to beam up the [TS]

00:46:04   lizard and it turns inside out and [TS]

00:46:06   explodes as up one of those wasn't bad [TS]

00:46:09   enough it does both [TS]

00:46:11   I love the comic timing of it too and [TS]

00:46:13   because it you get that nice shot of it [TS]

00:46:16   inside out well I say nice quotes of it [TS]

00:46:20   inside out and everybody reacts to that [TS]

00:46:22   and then it explodes and you get all the [TS]

00:46:24   bits like flying everywhere and it's [TS]

00:46:26   sticking to some surfaces and sigourney [TS]

00:46:28   weaver slowly gets up and she's like [TS]

00:46:29   hold please and like that little blob of [TS]

00:46:32   pink stuff falls out of the end of the [TS]

00:46:33   communicator when she put it opened its [TS]

00:46:36   it's quite nice but i also like in the [TS]

00:46:38   later in the scene 1 thermi insist still [TS]

00:46:41   covered with the everyone else sort of [TS]

00:46:42   cleared off his face is discovered with [TS]

00:46:45   with ha gu agadir yeah yeah well and [TS]

00:46:48   when they do put beam up by Tim Allen [TS]

00:46:50   you know he's he's into it being into [TS]

00:46:52   that chamber and behind him is just like [TS]

00:46:54   us [TS]

00:46:54   it's just a splatter of horrible things [TS]

00:46:57   abattoir yeah yeah so I like that [TS]

00:47:01   because it is you know like that classic [TS]

00:47:04   Star Trek episode the transporters are [TS]

00:47:05   working right they're afraid to to be [TS]

00:47:08   anybody up and and but they end up [TS]

00:47:11   having to do it because he's the [TS]

00:47:12   shirtless Tim Allen's going to get [TS]

00:47:13   crushed by the Rock Monster little [TS]

00:47:15   course this time it all works fine and [TS]

00:47:18   he's saved you also get the arena [TS]

00:47:20   reference to with the try to construct [TS]

00:47:23   something to get yourself it's someone [TS]

00:47:25   in the chat rooms put it it's can you [TS]

00:47:27   try drugs [TS]

00:47:28   look around you can view it is ready for [TS]

00:47:30   some server mini lathe yeah that's it [TS]

00:47:33   that's the most quantity [TS]

00:47:35   mount kool i found the answer [TS]

00:47:38   yeah so that means they're loving detail [TS]

00:47:40   that won't you know stead that I think [TS]

00:47:43   Scott mentioned that this is these are [TS]

00:47:45   people who who know their star trek and [TS]

00:47:47   know that it's funny but like I mean [TS]

00:47:50   I'll defend that arena episode even [TS]

00:47:53   though the Gorn is the slowest monster [TS]

00:47:56   ever its menacing it's like it's [TS]

00:47:58   relentless it's like magic it makes [TS]

00:48:01   Godzilla look like a gymnast maybe but i [TS]

00:48:07   love it so I they now they're back on [TS]

00:48:10   the ship everything is great right now [TS]

00:48:11   except that sarah has taken over the [TS]

00:48:14   ship plot twists and and so this leads [TS]

00:48:19   to the moment where they have to break [TS]

00:48:20   the news to two masses are that the [TS]

00:48:23   historical documents are not in fact [TS]

00:48:26   historical documents and i really like [TS]

00:48:28   the I like saris in the scene and i [TS]

00:48:32   especially liked his line explained as [TS]

00:48:35   you would a child you know he is he is [TS]

00:48:38   so dripping with contempt for the [TS]

00:48:41   Thurman's and he is really enjoying the [TS]

00:48:43   fact that now that he's figured it out [TS]

00:48:46   that these people are are just these [TS]

00:48:48   actors and that the Thurman's you know [TS]

00:48:51   any danger any damage that that Sarah's [TS]

00:48:54   can inflict on them doesn't match up to [TS]

00:48:56   the emotional damage that he can make [TS]

00:48:58   the humans inflicted on them by [TS]

00:49:00   revealing that they're not historical [TS]

00:49:02   documents it's really nice scene and [TS]

00:49:04   creepy and and in the middle of a wacky [TS]

00:49:07   movie it's a it's a very tough and sad [TS]

00:49:12   scene because you don't let these guys [TS]

00:49:13   down there friendly octopus people but [TS]

00:49:15   actually this is I think one of my [TS]

00:49:17   favorite scenes in the movie for that [TS]

00:49:18   reason because it's just it's so it [TS]

00:49:22   works at this point masses are is I mean [TS]

00:49:25   I ice have started to really feel for [TS]

00:49:27   him in to see him as a child I think [TS]

00:49:29   that line from serious you're right is [TS]

00:49:30   perfect because I just you want to [TS]

00:49:32   protect him he's so sweet and earnest [TS]

00:49:35   and genuine about everything and the [TS]

00:49:37   fact that Sarah's so cruel and making [TS]

00:49:40   them actually explain it [TS]

00:49:41   yeah there really isn't anything works [TS]

00:49:43   that he could do at that point that is [TS]

00:49:44   that is a real villain [TS]

00:49:46   I really want to see the theater on [TS]

00:49:49   services world because he was familiar [TS]

00:49:50   with actors and I was really curious [TS]

00:49:51   what performance would be like since I [TS]

00:49:54   was a cut that's what if there's one of [TS]

00:49:56   their television shows like it's mostly [TS]

00:49:58   just sitcoms it comes and david mamet [TS]

00:50:00   work workplace that slips most that's [TS]

00:50:03   how he turns the wheel [TS]

00:50:04   yeah blood tix are for closers you have [TS]

00:50:07   an experienced Shakespeare until you've [TS]

00:50:08   heard it in the original Syrian yeah I i [TS]

00:50:12   want to bring up just gonna go back just [TS]

00:50:14   a tiny bit which is this movie has a [TS]

00:50:16   unique property i think it you know i [TS]

00:50:18   like the film very much but it also has [TS]

00:50:21   some interesting dramatic properties [TS]

00:50:23   that you don't see everywhere which is [TS]

00:50:24   they have different arc speak at [TS]

00:50:26   different times in they've given a lot [TS]

00:50:28   of time to the development of many [TS]

00:50:29   different characters it's very hard to [TS]

00:50:31   do in a movie you see it more another [TS]

00:50:32   you know TV shows over time or something [TS]

00:50:34   and Tony Shalhoub character gets his [TS]

00:50:36   moment he gets his little paw theosis [TS]

00:50:38   thing when he beams up he looks at missi [TS]

00:50:40   pyle he falls in love they have their [TS]

00:50:42   their moment and then they have the [TS]

00:50:43   terrible that all thats just that right [TS]

00:50:45   see you later but he gets his apotheosis [TS]

00:50:47   before the film peaks so he's found his [TS]

00:50:50   confidence in that sort of carries him [TS]

00:50:52   along into scenes that are that are [TS]

00:50:54   coming up even as other people are [TS]

00:50:55   finding you know their particular life [TS]

00:50:58   journey is hitting the pop art of the [TS]

00:51:00   film where they need to achieve their [TS]

00:51:01   confidence i think that's kind of a it's [TS]

00:51:03   not unusual but it was certainly a nice [TS]

00:51:05   element in it that you had all the [TS]

00:51:06   strands coming together different points [TS]

00:51:08   of everyone going well he's found his [TS]

00:51:10   heart he's found his soul he sound is a [TS]

00:51:12   you know missing wallet [TS]

00:51:14   well this is the challenge with a movie [TS]

00:51:16   like this is that you don't have a [TS]

00:51:17   shorthand that Star Trek has where [TS]

00:51:19   you've seen these characters a million [TS]

00:51:20   times and so they have to use some Star [TS]

00:51:23   Trek shorthand and then they did they do [TS]

00:51:25   like a star trek movie they've also got [TS]

00:51:26   to give them all a little moment to [TS]

00:51:28   shine in a little and a little bit of an [TS]

00:51:30   arc and and they do a good job in most [TS]

00:51:34   cases [TS]

00:51:35   okay yeah this is this track so i think [TS]

00:51:38   that was so obvious that i don't even [TS]

00:51:39   think about it but you know how in some [TS]

00:51:41   of the Star Trek movies like wait what [TS]

00:51:43   did what did Sulu do in this matter what [TS]

00:51:45   did who are doing this movie and you [TS]

00:51:47   think back in like nothing is real [TS]

00:51:51   desert just started the band [TS]

00:51:56   and yeah not for the fan not good not [TS]

00:52:00   good [TS]

00:52:01   so anyway there's an escape the saris [TS]

00:52:03   doesn't put them to death although he [TS]

00:52:04   wants to shut out into space [TS]

00:52:06   there's an escape and justice Justin [TS]

00:52:09   Long gets called into action he gets the [TS]

00:52:11   call that every fan is always dreamed of [TS]

00:52:13   the captain of the ship is in trouble [TS]

00:52:14   and he needs your help and this is a [TS]

00:52:18   that it's all real [TS]

00:52:20   oh my god i do it this is every yes [TS]

00:52:24   every fan that I'm not a complete [TS]

00:52:25   braincase ok that was a nice line i like [TS]

00:52:28   um yeah it's nice because he refutes [TS]

00:52:30   initially gave every everything is like [TS]

00:52:33   I everything you know I'm totally normal [TS]

00:52:36   and then of course that's not true [TS]

00:52:40   now let me get the boys on the line here [TS]

00:52:42   we made a 3d model of this but you know [TS]

00:52:44   I know I got an expert for every area of [TS]

00:52:46   the questions that you're asking like [TS]

00:52:47   that too that it's not he's not he again [TS]

00:52:50   he's the captain of his crew so he's got [TS]

00:52:52   his experts in various ways that you can [TS]

00:52:54   deploy them the only expert he doesn't [TS]

00:52:57   have somebody to take out the garbage [TS]

00:52:59   I think maybe maybe my favorite line [TS]

00:53:01   tied to his his storyline is is near the [TS]

00:53:04   end where he's rushing out with all the [TS]

00:53:06   fireworks and he explains why [TS]

00:53:09   and finally goes out and and his parents [TS]

00:53:12   look at each other well at least he's [TS]

00:53:13   going outside [TS]

00:53:14   yeah I also like this there's a scene [TS]

00:53:17   right around here where Sigourney Weaver [TS]

00:53:19   Earl Weaver had watch this twice i had a [TS]

00:53:21   stopped because i'm watching her lips [TS]

00:53:23   move and that is not what she says oh [TS]

00:53:26   yeah I really loud and g let the f-bomb [TS]

00:53:29   know this is going to be an r-rated [TS]

00:53:31   movie and then they just decided it was [TS]

00:53:32   going to be a PG movie instead she said [TS]

00:53:34   they're going to be sex scenes which I [TS]

00:53:35   don't know where those were going to [TS]

00:53:36   wind up in there but she's being funny [TS]

00:53:38   when she did that interview a few years [TS]

00:53:39   ago but yes that was an f-bomb badly [TS]

00:53:42   over didn't did not reach shoot that [TS]

00:53:44   you're doing in America didn't have any [TS]

00:53:46   coverage for it and it's the worst ATR [TS]

00:53:48   yeah you never see no it'sit's a you [TS]

00:53:51   became mr. Falcon kind of moment haha [TS]

00:53:54   but yeah I mean they must have been that [TS]

00:53:56   they must have realized that they that [TS]

00:53:59   they could market it as a PG and they [TS]

00:54:01   and just you know take out or loop [TS]

00:54:03   the-the-the some of the dialogue and so [TS]

00:54:06   they did and that one yeah suffers that [TS]

00:54:09   say you can look at it as a no Maj to [TS]

00:54:11   all of the times that you know classic [TS]

00:54:13   pulpy sci-fi shows didn't have coverage [TS]

00:54:15   and had to do the same thing Bennett [TS]

00:54:17   that ad or sure I ok there's a nice [TS]

00:54:23   scene where where they save the [TS]

00:54:27   Thurman's who are being killed the there [TS]

00:54:30   they're being deprived of oxygen and and [TS]

00:54:33   they're going to they're going to die [TS]

00:54:34   and there and they're saved and this is [TS]

00:54:37   sort of a moment for Alexander deign to [TS]

00:54:40   shine [TS]

00:54:41   Alan Alan Rickman but but but sadly [TS]

00:54:45   quick the Thurman dies killed by a shot [TS]

00:54:50   in the back right by a by one of [TS]

00:54:52   services guys [TS]

00:54:53   yeah yeah yeahs comes from outside in [TS]

00:54:55   the hallway and then that guy's that [TS]

00:54:58   henchman is gonna immediately jams and [TS]

00:55:00   just keeps hitting it for like five [TS]

00:55:01   minutes our clinic is dying [TS]

00:55:02   yeah well that's what henchmen he [TS]

00:55:04   probably thrown through it Adam and then [TS]

00:55:05   ran away because when Hegeman do it [TS]

00:55:07   that's the that's I think the single [TS]

00:55:09   sweetest moment in the movie and I i [TS]

00:55:13   will digraphs as you know what I wanted [TS]

00:55:14   when I was a kid highschool did a lot of [TS]

00:55:17   acting and once we have this followed [TS]

00:55:19   graduated high school show up and he's a [TS]

00:55:21   lot of Shakespeare he wasn't like a [TS]

00:55:23   professional did a lot of theater since [TS]

00:55:25   he graduated he's talking about Hamlet [TS]

00:55:27   he's talking talking and then he stops [TS]

00:55:29   and he actually does a very small bit of [TS]

00:55:30   it and the entire universe changed and [TS]

00:55:33   that was the moment I understood what [TS]

00:55:34   acting is different from what we were [TS]

00:55:36   doing and in the movie i had that same [TS]

00:55:38   reaction that alan rickman time stops [TS]

00:55:41   and suddenly he is completely there that [TS]

00:55:44   performer doing a performer's roll doing [TS]

00:55:47   a performer's role and he sells it that [TS]

00:55:50   my grandfather's hamon just like oh my [TS]

00:55:52   god it's all its it is so real in the [TS]

00:55:55   middle of this crazy sci-fi movie that [TS]

00:55:57   he can pull it off it's incredible i [TS]

00:55:59   think that's the emotional part of this [TS]

00:56:01   movie is the scene and it's the fact [TS]

00:56:03   that that Alexander Dane you know he [TS]

00:56:07   accepts that what accept 40 he doesn't [TS]

00:56:11   earlier in the movie which is that that [TS]

00:56:13   this character is important to people [TS]

00:56:16   and the doctor Lazarus matters and and [TS]

00:56:18   this is like you know Leonard Nimoy [TS]

00:56:20   accepting the fact [TS]

00:56:22   that even though he could say I'm not [TS]

00:56:24   Spock like he did in the seventies that [TS]

00:56:26   spot was important and the Vulcan [TS]

00:56:28   philosophy was important to people and I [TS]

00:56:30   you know internet diversity in infinite [TS]

00:56:32   combinations and all and all that live [TS]

00:56:34   long and prosper all that mattered to [TS]

00:56:36   people and whether it started as a show [TS]

00:56:39   and it started as an acting job there [TS]

00:56:42   there's some level of responsibility [TS]

00:56:43   because the these people take it [TS]

00:56:45   seriously whether or not you believe it [TS]

00:56:47   they take it seriously and so for alan [TS]

00:56:49   rickman in that moment to realize that [TS]

00:56:52   the right thing to say to this true [TS]

00:56:54   believer and a and the right thing he [TS]

00:56:56   wanted to say that moment was this thing [TS]

00:56:58   that he's hated all this time and [TS]

00:57:00   suddenly it means something it's a [TS]

00:57:01   really big it is a beautiful moment [TS]

00:57:03   yeah yeah and it also means something [TS]

00:57:06   especially with quick because the whole [TS]

00:57:08   entire time we've had quick in this [TS]

00:57:10   movie [TS]

00:57:11   yeah has been with secret in seen [TS]

00:57:13   specifically with Alexander Dane and [TS]

00:57:17   it's always been about the deep respect [TS]

00:57:20   that quick has for this thing that a [TS]

00:57:23   alexandria has no respect at all for and [TS]

00:57:28   it you know he from the moment he's [TS]

00:57:31   introduced until his death even says [TS]

00:57:34   that he feels like he is a father figure [TS]

00:57:36   to him and it's it's really nice and it [TS]

00:57:40   shows one way that I sort of a [TS]

00:57:43   television performance can inspire [TS]

00:57:45   someone even even though it you know [TS]

00:57:48   it's not real but it hits its it's just [TS]

00:57:52   very nice and very touching [TS]

00:57:53   yeah it's a great moment I need of the [TS]

00:57:57   whole thing is the full you know by [TS]

00:57:59   grabthar's hammer by the sons of war van [TS]

00:58:01   whatever you shall be avenged [TS]

00:58:04   I'm gonna go grab some Kleenex watching [TS]

00:58:06   and i watched it again and grab some [TS]

00:58:07   more just you two lovely little bit yeah [TS]

00:58:09   that's really great [TS]

00:58:11   justin long as taking out the the trash [TS]

00:58:14   and recycling I can i mention this in [TS]

00:58:17   our war games episode this feels to me [TS]

00:58:19   to be a direct reference to war games [TS]

00:58:21   because the world almost ends because [TS]

00:58:24   Matthew Broderick has to take out the [TS]

00:58:25   trash like the same seen em the exact [TS]

00:58:28   same scene but it's great [TS]

00:58:30   the this is this is also in in this [TS]

00:58:33   moment this is where we get [TS]

00:58:35   to Milan Sigourney Weaver running [TS]

00:58:36   through as we mentioned earlier the the [TS]

00:58:38   the the bowels of the ship which are [TS]

00:58:41   ridiculous just a series of ridiculous [TS]

00:58:43   things one after another like this is [TS]

00:58:46   you know but the including again sigh [TS]

00:58:49   fine general star wars i think in [TS]

00:58:51   particular but a lot of a lot of genre [TS]

00:58:54   movies where there are places no [TS]

00:58:56   handrails mysterious things that you [TS]

00:58:59   know doctor who did this [TS]

00:59:01   six years later they had that episode [TS]

00:59:04   Erica the end the end of the world where [TS]

00:59:07   there where there are chompers that the [TS]

00:59:09   doctor has to walk through and I'm like [TS]

00:59:10   really did they not see galaxy quest [TS]

00:59:13   maybe they did see galaxy quest and he [TS]

00:59:15   does like Time Lord trance to walk [TS]

00:59:17   through the chompers but it's that you [TS]

00:59:19   know so they got the choppers and the [TS]

00:59:21   any Omega 13 which I I am amused that [TS]

00:59:23   the unknowable thing that nobody knows [TS]

00:59:25   about not even the writer and even the [TS]

00:59:27   people who constructed this ship the [TS]

00:59:29   fermions don't know what it is but they [TS]

00:59:30   know enough to make it [TS]

00:59:32   yeah wonderful can see if because you [TS]

00:59:35   know what they don't do in this film is [TS]

00:59:37   they don't come back and explain things [TS]

00:59:38   at you they're like we built this thing [TS]

00:59:40   we don't know it doesn't no one knows [TS]

00:59:41   what it does and it does this wonderful [TS]

00:59:44   perfect thing and they're like oh well [TS]

00:59:45   the reason it did that like no it just [TS]

00:59:47   did that [TS]

00:59:48   that's what this yeah well there is a [TS]

00:59:50   when he's talking to justin long about [TS]

00:59:52   it and yeah just like oh I envy the [TS]

00:59:55   video you have and stuff like that look [TS]

00:59:57   up and he [TS]

00:59:57   up and he [TS]

01:00:00   to specifically that the fans have [TS]

01:00:03   theories about this and one of them [TS]

01:00:05   happens to be of course the theory that [TS]

01:00:07   it resets everything for x 13 seconds [TS]

01:00:11   II i don't know how they formulated that [TS]

01:00:14   but that was the little bit of [TS]

01:00:15   exposition that helps explain things [TS]

01:00:17   much later on the actual design of the [TS]

01:00:20   Omega 13 is a very interesting and weird [TS]

01:00:23   looking and I I don't know how the [TS]

01:00:24   fermions managed to produce that based [TS]

01:00:27   on whatever the eighties version of that [TS]

01:00:29   looks like it is it's really neat and at [TS]

01:00:33   one of the things that a redhead I think [TS]

01:00:36   it's think is kind of a little bit of a [TS]

01:00:38   plot misstep here is that the whole [TS]

01:00:40   thing with serious wanted to have the [TS]

01:00:42   Omega 13 but he's just going to blow up [TS]

01:00:43   the whole ship with you maybe 13 on it [TS]

01:00:45   and he didn't get it out of the ship [TS]

01:00:48   which is a little strange [TS]

01:00:50   well he can't have it no one will have [TS]

01:00:52   it yeah and all these guys look like on [TS]

01:00:54   always cuz it's all guys are on it but [TS]

01:00:57   he doesn't care he's going to fire all [TS]

01:00:59   the things at them while they run with [TS]

01:01:01   the self-destruct 2i the consistency [TS]

01:01:04   though is that services found out [TS]

01:01:05   they're actors and he's like all the [TS]

01:01:07   omega-3 13 is garbage it's a fake know [TS]

01:01:10   that maybe everything else the ship is [TS]

01:01:12   ridiculous and so on one of the things [TS]

01:01:14   that is less obvious i think but when [TS]

01:01:17   you watch the movie a few times you know [TS]

01:01:19   you they don't overstate this but [TS]

01:01:21   clearly this is a show that ended on a [TS]

01:01:23   cliffhanger that was never resolved the [TS]

01:01:24   Omega 13 is the cliffhanger item that [TS]

01:01:27   the MacGuffin or whatever they they [TS]

01:01:29   Omega 13 being released as the last [TS]

01:01:32   scene of the last episode and it's never [TS]

01:01:34   resolved and you they show that clip of [TS]

01:01:37   him releasing it and and guy says you're [TS]

01:01:41   the last year the first people to see [TS]

01:01:42   this since it aired in 1982 so [TS]

01:01:45   presumably there's a story there about [TS]

01:01:47   how they never put that episode in [TS]

01:01:48   syndication because it ends on a [TS]

01:01:49   cliffhanger that's never resolved and [TS]

01:01:51   they just cycled back to the beginning [TS]

01:01:52   and I thought I thought that was AI [TS]

01:01:55   thought that was a doctor who just [TS]

01:01:56   because he's talking about how he had [TS]

01:01:57   been recovered I thought it was a [TS]

01:01:58   missing episode like all of missing [TS]

01:02:00   episodes [TS]

01:02:01   no I think I think this is what it is [TS]

01:02:03   though is is that it was supposed to be [TS]

01:02:05   the season cliffhanger and they got [TS]

01:02:06   canceled and so now they just don't show [TS]

01:02:08   that episode because there's no [TS]

01:02:10   resolution to it and that was the and [TS]

01:02:11   that's why the fans have the theories of [TS]

01:02:13   what the Omega 13 does because to be [TS]

01:02:16   continued it was never continued it's [TS]

01:02:18   just a nice i mean they could have gone [TS]

01:02:20   over that with a you-know-what the [TS]

01:02:21   highlighter and they don't it's just [TS]

01:02:23   under the surface there that this is the [TS]

01:02:25   this is so in some ways what this movie [TS]

01:02:27   does is actually resolves the big [TS]

01:02:30   cliffhanger at the end of the make TV [TS]

01:02:32   stuff they do i think the river ice [TS]

01:02:34   travel again it is so beautifully [TS]

01:02:36   because you know in a syndication cycle [TS]

01:02:39   you know what happens at the the last [TS]

01:02:41   episode you go right back to the first [TS]

01:02:42   episode so whatever that cliffhanger was [TS]

01:02:45   to whoever was watching an outer space [TS]

01:02:48   it just says everything backwards right [TS]

01:02:50   to the beginning again [TS]

01:02:51   Oh David you just blew my mind before [TS]

01:02:57   before they trigger the Omega 13 this is [TS]

01:03:00   the other deleted scene continuity [TS]

01:03:02   issues so when when you see her in one [TS]

01:03:04   scene and she's her costumes falling [TS]

01:03:06   apart and then next senior senior bronze [TS]

01:03:09   is all whatever there's a scene in which [TS]

01:03:10   she goes and she seduces the guards if [TS]

01:03:13   the services guards or attempts to in [TS]

01:03:15   like terrorists or shirt open and it's [TS]

01:03:17   ridiculous and that's they deleted it [TS]

01:03:20   but it's the dinner fix the continuity [TS]

01:03:22   because they have coverage and she [TS]

01:03:23   didn't have coverage either but I'm club [TS]

01:03:25   no no Erica just file that one away yeah [TS]

01:03:28   i think that would make everything a [TS]

01:03:29   little better make you angrier but I [TS]

01:03:30   thought you should know [TS]

01:03:31   yeah I I appreciate the business the [TS]

01:03:33   reason for it I i guess but i think it's [TS]

01:03:36   an then again the river it makes it even [TS]

01:03:38   worse yeah because it's again it doesn't [TS]

01:03:40   make me that I also in the it actually [TS]

01:03:43   seems much more ridiculous over like the [TS]

01:03:45   scene that was cut so it i think it is [TS]

01:03:47   an homage to the terrible fan dance like [TS]

01:03:50   Oh will do this ridiculous thing that [TS]

01:03:52   doesn't make any sense [TS]

01:03:53   and then we're just gonna go on from [TS]

01:03:55   there and actually go back to the plot [TS]

01:03:56   the we get the they just long saves the [TS]

01:04:00   day they do stop the self-destruct but [TS]

01:04:02   it keeps counting down to one because [TS]

01:04:03   look beautiful always counting those [TS]

01:04:05   kids unless the bond movie then it stops [TS]

01:04:09   at seven and there's a really nice i [TS]

01:04:12   like the little moment where they do out [TS]

01:04:14   with sarah sand and they've got the [TS]

01:04:17   mines the minefields pays off again the [TS]

01:04:19   magnetic these mines look like they may [TS]

01:04:20   be my magnetic they say early on em [TS]

01:04:23   that might be important later and so [TS]

01:04:26   they get a return to the earth and then [TS]

01:04:30   we get our remote or maybe 13 moment [TS]

01:04:32   where this this is a this is one of a [TS]

01:04:35   couple places that this movie reminds me [TS]

01:04:37   of wayne's world but it's like they have [TS]

01:04:39   the super said anything looks terrible [TS]

01:04:41   and they have that moment of like I like [TS]

01:04:43   we were gonna do that ending and they go [TS]

01:04:45   back in time and then everything's fine [TS]

01:04:46   again and then they and then just as [TS]

01:04:50   long as lighting the roman candles [TS]

01:04:52   okay to get them back to the convention [TS]

01:04:55   center and this is one of those things [TS]

01:04:57   that again it's fun to end where we [TS]

01:04:59   started although it's like how many [TS]

01:05:01   people got killed when the side of the [TS]

01:05:02   convention center imagine--open and how [TS]

01:05:05   many cars were destroyed by the [TS]

01:05:07   spaceship as it coasted to a landing and [TS]

01:05:09   you know it's just like to copy what a [TS]

01:05:13   way to go Gil Blas spaceship kill but [TS]

01:05:18   she's standing by that wall anyway I'm [TS]

01:05:19   sure they were there all true fans [TS]

01:05:21   anyways just Klingons yeah that's true [TS]

01:05:23   that's true [TS]

01:05:25   they were ok yeah it was just it was [TS]

01:05:26   just like a t-shirt place over there so [TS]

01:05:28   probably only like the guy who is [TS]

01:05:29   selling the teacher its current [TS]

01:05:30   condition [TS]

01:05:30   this should show those two kids who are [TS]

01:05:32   making fun of everyone giving searched [TS]

01:05:34   by the I think maybe I think it was I'm [TS]

01:05:35   not shown but assumed that those two [TS]

01:05:37   those two guys work were killed [TS]

01:05:40   headcanon accepted yeah alright and the [TS]

01:05:45   over the end credits we discovered that [TS]

01:05:47   they bring the galaxy quest back know [TS]

01:05:50   the end with the with the ship's [TS]

01:05:53   security chief guy ingersoll the guy [TS]

01:05:55   you're so yeah the last name and the [TS]

01:05:57   last thing a rock guy acting awful anger [TS]

01:06:00   soul [TS]

01:06:01   yeah is it worth mentioning the three [TS]

01:06:04   times that Sarah skies he does he does [TS]

01:06:08   come back again and again on the stage [TS]

01:06:12   on the stage of the convention center is [TS]

01:06:15   he someone he's a villain in a few [TS]

01:06:16   things like a horror movie monster at [TS]

01:06:18   that point he just keeps coming back [TS]

01:06:19   yeah they didn't really even give him [TS]

01:06:21   dialogue for the last one he just [TS]

01:06:23   Saunders out with the with a rifle and [TS]

01:06:26   what they want that raiders of the lost [TS]

01:06:28   ark moment almost where it's like oh no [TS]

01:06:30   and they're like he's gone [TS]

01:06:32   the end yeah everybody cheers okay [TS]

01:06:35   should we talk about the Eric let's talk [TS]

01:06:37   about Quinn [TS]

01:06:38   yeah okay first of all I would like to [TS]

01:06:40   point out that i do love this movie I [TS]

01:06:42   think it's wonderful it is it's just [TS]

01:06:44   beautiful and heartfelt and made by [TS]

01:06:46   people who clearly love so many of the [TS]

01:06:47   same things that I do it really echoes [TS]

01:06:50   that world perfectly I just think maybe [TS]

01:06:52   echoes that world a little too perfectly [TS]

01:06:54   because like so many other properties it [TS]

01:06:57   really just felt like it was not made [TS]

01:06:59   for me [TS]

01:07:00   the female character in this the show in [TS]

01:07:02   galaxy quest is very you know just kind [TS]

01:07:05   of silly and useless but she's not [TS]

01:07:07   really that much better in quote-unquote [TS]

01:07:09   real right yeah she just I mean you look [TS]

01:07:13   at the other characters and they [TS]

01:07:14   actually have some some decent arcs you [TS]

01:07:16   get Jason discovering that you know he [TS]

01:07:18   can actually be heroic and you get [TS]

01:07:20   Alexander discovering that that it [TS]

01:07:23   really doesn't matter you know what that [TS]

01:07:25   what you do can touch people it doesn't [TS]

01:07:27   necessarily matter how high brow or [TS]

01:07:28   lowbrow it might be and some of that [TS]

01:07:31   stuff is really beautiful but then when [TS]

01:07:33   who kicked when her arc the take-home [TS]

01:07:34   message i got from her is sometimes it's [TS]

01:07:37   okay to just be really pretty and if you [TS]

01:07:40   hang in there you don't try too hard to [TS]

01:07:42   go above and beyond your station then [TS]

01:07:44   you might we can't land a hunky man at [TS]

01:07:46   the end of everything but that's just so [TS]

01:07:49   depressing it makes music I have to [TS]

01:07:52   agree with Aragon every time I I like [TS]

01:07:55   her a much better at the beginning of [TS]

01:07:58   the movie because she seems to have a [TS]

01:08:01   lot more [TS]

01:08:02   integrity ended as sense of self-worth [TS]

01:08:05   in turning down Tim Allen's advances and [TS]

01:08:09   and standing up for the crew that they [TS]

01:08:12   work together or not at all and then she [TS]

01:08:16   just kind of get sort of like silly [TS]

01:08:17   indeed see on the planet and you know [TS]

01:08:21   when they're running around in the [TS]

01:08:22   corridors she got some good lines but [TS]

01:08:25   they're not they don't change your [TS]

01:08:28   character push forward like Erica [TS]

01:08:30   mentioned I feel like they had such an [TS]

01:08:32   opportunity to kind of turn things [TS]

01:08:34   beside ways and really highlight how [TS]

01:08:37   silly those things were the way that [TS]

01:08:39   they chose to highlight the silliness of [TS]

01:08:41   the female roles in so many of these [TS]

01:08:42   shows is to just have this character do [TS]

01:08:45   all of those things and put a spotlight [TS]

01:08:47   on it so there wasn't there wasn't as [TS]

01:08:49   much kind of like you know sigh dying [TS]

01:08:51   and being like seriously it was like no [TS]

01:08:53   this is my thing and I'm going to do it [TS]

01:08:56   eat yeah I I think they wanted to the [TS]

01:09:00   one to have it both ways right I I think [TS]

01:09:02   they wanted to satirize the the [TS]

01:09:05   character being useless and I get that [TS]

01:09:07   and then they start off with with the [TS]

01:09:09   actual actress being more interesting [TS]

01:09:12   and then I at some point in the movie [TS]

01:09:15   they decide they know they actually want [TS]

01:09:17   to satirize the actress two men and it's [TS]

01:09:21   problematic in and it feels to me like [TS]

01:09:24   they could have done [TS]

01:09:25   not a lot and made it a lot better just [TS]

01:09:29   understanding something of their history [TS]

01:09:31   so that their relationship because their [TS]

01:09:34   their their their history Tim Allen's [TS]

01:09:36   character and sigourney weaver's [TS]

01:09:37   characters is is completely intangible [TS]

01:09:40   right it's like well some you know no [TS]

01:09:42   there was nothing between them and then [TS]

01:09:43   he says well that's what some say right [TS]

01:09:45   but there's no there's no actual actual [TS]

01:09:48   anything there's nothing to it and so [TS]

01:09:50   when they you know when the when the [TS]

01:09:54   movie ends the way it does were like oh [TS]

01:09:56   look it's a it's not nice it like it [TS]

01:09:59   where did that come from [TS]

01:10:01   it's not really it's not really paid off [TS]

01:10:02   anyway and if we had a better sense of [TS]

01:10:05   them being you know people who actually [TS]

01:10:08   had a relationship and we're sparring [TS]

01:10:09   with each other and that this was [TS]

01:10:11   something that made them understand and [TS]

01:10:13   grow like that they that they really [TS]

01:10:16   you know that they made a mistake back [TS]

01:10:17   down or that they were there not as bad [TS]

01:10:19   as they thought or whatever but none of [TS]

01:10:21   that is in this movie right the movies [TS]

01:10:23   two minutes too busy like again [TS]

01:10:25   successfully taking shots and making [TS]

01:10:27   funny jokes about various things and I [TS]

01:10:30   feel like in the end with when they [TS]

01:10:33   decided that they just would rather tell [TS]

01:10:34   the jokes and not have the character be [TS]

01:10:37   a person which for 1999 is not a really [TS]

01:10:41   surprising thing in a science fiction [TS]

01:10:42   movie i'm sorry to say no but it's the [TS]

01:10:44   potential that makes us unhappy is that [TS]

01:10:45   you think these things going one [TS]

01:10:47   direction they make I into a [TS]

01:10:48   full-fledged character and they make her [TS]

01:10:50   into a cartoon and that's what's [TS]

01:10:51   disappointing I I have to think that on [TS]

01:10:53   one level they assume that they that [TS]

01:10:55   that the entire thing is being seen by [TS]

01:10:59   people who understand the other [TS]

01:11:01   characters that Sigourney Weaver is [TS]

01:11:04   played and that the whole thing is just [TS]

01:11:06   in contrast to the strong women that [TS]

01:11:08   she's played in other movies right um [TS]

01:11:10   that doesn't help you when you're [TS]

01:11:12   reading this movie right this movie [TS]

01:11:15   doesn't do it and yes that is effective [TS]

01:11:17   I think that that's the most effective [TS]

01:11:19   thing about it right is that this is the [TS]

01:11:20   same woman who played Ripley yeah okay [TS]

01:11:22   but in this you know when DeMarco is [TS]

01:11:25   like a cipher that that's meta meta meta [TS]

01:11:29   meta is eating its own tail [TS]

01:11:32   yeah it's an alien tail well and it it [TS]

01:11:36   is also disappointing to you because of [TS]

01:11:38   LaLaurie the only other female in the [TS]

01:11:42   movie and she also just has a [TS]

01:11:45   relationship we have with Fred quan just [TS]

01:11:47   kisses Fred quan that's the window job [TS]

01:11:51   although i think was one of Justin long [TS]

01:11:53   as crew is a girl yes my so you notice [TS]

01:11:56   we have somebody who does something [TS]

01:11:58   that's important and it happens to be [TS]

01:12:01   that girl who has almost no lines I [TS]

01:12:04   don't even remember how I think she just [TS]

01:12:06   stood around when they were in the [TS]

01:12:07   convention center and in the parking [TS]

01:12:09   garage at the tech value superstore at [TS]

01:12:12   peace I don't think she was one of the [TS]

01:12:13   ones that they called even when they're [TS]

01:12:15   great yeah we write no I think you're [TS]

01:12:18   right [TS]

01:12:19   oh good well just go along his mom is a [TS]

01:12:21   proponent of recycling [TS]

01:12:25   its mother thank you Scott [TS]

01:12:30   you said you salvage this movie i doing [TS]

01:12:33   again we can have Christmas now nice i [TS]

01:12:36   sorry I had to type proponent of [TS]

01:12:38   recycling it's a sec just the title is [TS]

01:12:40   what makes this movie is it it's loving [TS]

01:12:47   loving attention to detail that makes it [TS]

01:12:50   so successful is this movie that makes [TS]

01:12:53   sense if you don't know Star Trek or [TS]

01:12:55   Star Wars or other sci-fi movies doesn't [TS]

01:12:57   work right [TS]

01:12:58   I don't know my wife is not a link is [TS]

01:13:00   not a she has a name names like this [TS]

01:13:02   topic a science-fiction fan at all [TS]

01:13:04   cannot stand doctor who because of the [TS]

01:13:06   music which makes her feel queasy [TS]

01:13:09   she's like stress tension stuff like [TS]

01:13:12   that and or the plots and so she has a [TS]

01:13:15   very low tolerance for it she really [TS]

01:13:16   liked this film we saw it when i first [TS]

01:13:18   came out I think we watch it again at [TS]

01:13:20   least once [TS]

01:13:20   and so it does absolutely sell to people [TS]

01:13:22   who don't have all the in references to [TS]

01:13:26   it and i think i think it does work as a [TS]

01:13:30   as a cultural critique even if you don't [TS]

01:13:33   know the joke since it's better if you [TS]

01:13:34   know the jokes but but it's still [TS]

01:13:36   because it's got so much heart it tells [TS]

01:13:38   a good story works my co-host on d [TS]

01:13:41   focused and doesn't like science fiction [TS]

01:13:42   stuff at all and he really loves galaxy [TS]

01:13:46   quest and doesn't necessarily understand [TS]

01:13:50   all of the star trek pop-culture stuff [TS]

01:13:53   and joke since everything is layered in [TS]

01:13:55   here but he can still appreciate it for [TS]

01:13:57   its comedy and it's accessible to a [TS]

01:14:02   wider audience than if it was just sort [TS]

01:14:04   of a one of those fan videos that gets [TS]

01:14:09   shown at fan conventions where they make [TS]

01:14:12   their own parodies so we should also [TS]

01:14:14   mention i would entire episode of red [TS]

01:14:16   shirt to the past but I don't think [TS]

01:14:17   we've mentioned one right this entire [TS]

01:14:19   thing is is a you know I don't know [TS]

01:14:20   where Scott john scalzi falls in terms [TS]

01:14:24   of loving this movie or not but there [TS]

01:14:26   are huge echoes and red shirts of that [TS]

01:14:28   kind of meta meta meta narrative that [TS]

01:14:30   predates galaxy quest of course it is a [TS]

01:14:32   trope in sort of you know modern science [TS]

01:14:35   fiction that's terrible like stainless [TS]

01:14:37   steel and stainless steel rat [TS]

01:14:39   what's there's a parody of Starship [TS]

01:14:41   Troopers forgot what it's called it's [TS]

01:14:43   harry harrison as a parody of that so [TS]

01:14:46   there are there are there is a notion of [TS]

01:14:48   parodying the space opera sonra already [TS]

01:14:50   of course but redshirts is a great [TS]

01:14:52   example of of like meta-analytic [TS]

01:14:55   matamata never any red shirts is is sort [TS]

01:14:58   of the flip side of this where it's the [TS]

01:15:00   fictional the fictional people are real [TS]

01:15:02   and frustrated by all of the fictional [TS]

01:15:05   choices so it's just a little bit [TS]

01:15:07   different but yes you have a complaint [TS]

01:15:09   about the writers are terrible they play [TS]

01:15:10   this is ridiculous why would you do this [TS]

01:15:12   to get mad at the writers I i think i [TS]

01:15:14   think it's a combination of the love for [TS]

01:15:18   the genre but but it is fun too but it's [TS]

01:15:20   not it's not mocking fun right it's it's [TS]

01:15:24   a very it's it's an all-embracing kind [TS]

01:15:29   of fun it's not it's not putting [TS]

01:15:30   anything down and saying look this is [TS]

01:15:32   this is a fun thing these people goofy [TS]

01:15:35   these people who fee but they're all [TS]

01:15:37   good people it's okay and and I mean [TS]

01:15:41   it's it's so much fun watching it again [TS]

01:15:43   tonight I was thinking about how you [TS]

01:15:46   know I i have a very problematic [TS]

01:15:48   relationship with buckaroo banzai [TS]

01:15:50   because i love the book and I hate the [TS]

01:15:53   movie and I think this is that kind of [TS]

01:15:58   tone of light adventure and it with a [TS]

01:16:01   little bit of pathos and it that [TS]

01:16:03   buckaroo banzai really was aiming for or [TS]

01:16:06   could have aimed for and I think it [TS]

01:16:08   would have been much better if it had [TS]

01:16:09   been if it if it hit the target and I [TS]

01:16:12   think this hits that target so uh at a [TS]

01:16:15   comic-con this year i believe or right [TS]

01:16:20   around comic-con time there was a web [TS]

01:16:23   mtv2 the story where they talked to a [TS]

01:16:25   bunch of people in it and and there was [TS]

01:16:28   the the writer and the stars all [TS]

01:16:30   basically said we would love to do a [TS]

01:16:32   sequel and apparently the writer said I [TS]

01:16:35   oh sure I've got plenty of ideas but i'm [TS]

01:16:37   not going to tell you anything on the [TS]

01:16:38   record [TS]

01:16:39   so who knows this may be one of those [TS]

01:16:41   movies that get say that gets a sequel [TS]

01:16:45   20 years afterward which would be [TS]

01:16:47   fitting for Star Trek honestly right [TS]

01:16:50   yeah i mean that's exactly what the [TS]

01:16:52   start [TS]

01:16:52   movies were i would be pretty funny [TS]

01:16:55   they'll travel back in time and there [TS]

01:16:58   will be a a younger cast the domain will [TS]

01:17:02   be a next generation and then electric [TS]

01:17:04   babies [TS]

01:17:05   yeah you know it was fun this was a fun [TS]

01:17:08   conversation it's also fun just to have [TS]

01:17:09   an excuse to watch this movie it's very [TS]

01:17:11   fun [TS]

01:17:11   yeah good one I'm never gonna be able to [TS]

01:17:14   your you know Erica you I was just [TS]

01:17:17   thinking about how stupid Quinn is in [TS]

01:17:19   that seat little alien babies which he [TS]

01:17:22   wants to like run over and hug them or [TS]

01:17:23   something you know when when Sam [TS]

01:17:26   Rockwell is the voice of reason [TS]

01:17:29   that's a bad sign right and I mean they [TS]

01:17:31   could have chosen any of the characters [TS]

01:17:33   besides sam rockwell to want to go and [TS]

01:17:36   you know talk to him for me know what [TS]

01:17:38   other reasons you know look they look [TS]

01:17:40   harmless I'm sure they're fine whatever [TS]

01:17:42   but they it's a very gendered thing that [TS]

01:17:44   they did to her [TS]

01:17:45   they're cute they're adorable they're [TS]

01:17:47   like babies so I want to go and hug them [TS]

01:17:49   if it wasn't that gender if it was just [TS]

01:17:51   more neutral maybe I wouldn't have had [TS]

01:17:53   its bigger problem with it i just [TS]

01:17:54   realized we we realize that none of the [TS]

01:17:56   characters in the show it is this is [TS]

01:17:58   where it becomes is meta is like none of [TS]

01:18:00   them have any family apparently at all [TS]

01:18:03   because they're not worried they're not [TS]

01:18:05   talking my children don't know where I [TS]

01:18:07   am my husband my wife my partner my [TS]

01:18:09   lover [TS]

01:18:10   they're like we're often space and we're [TS]

01:18:12   not thinking about anybody with the [TS]

01:18:13   people in this room which is a little [TS]

01:18:14   bit are actors [TS]

01:18:16   yeah exactly Oh take a turn [TS]

01:18:21   Erica its actors so not true that [TS]

01:18:28   everything that they did was truthfully [TS]

01:18:30   historical once and differently never [TS]

01:18:33   never forgiven for that horrible i [TS]

01:18:36   believed in Santa Claus [TS]

01:18:38   well this is this is the time where we [TS]

01:18:41   all have to say goodbye for now and i [TS]

01:18:45   would like to thank my guests for [TS]

01:18:46   talking about galaxy quest with me David [TS]

01:18:48   lower thanks for being here as always a [TS]

01:18:50   pleasure and Fleischmann thank you super [TS]

01:18:53   neat Scott McNulty thank you very much [TS]

01:18:56   for being here [TS]

01:18:57   never give up never surrender area Erica [TS]

01:19:01   and sign thanks for being here and thank [TS]

01:19:03   you for having me it's been great [TS]

01:19:05   and Joseph rosenstiel so it was great to [TS]

01:19:08   have you on the incomparable and we [TS]

01:19:09   should say that people should listen to [TS]

01:19:11   the episode of d focused for you and Dan [TS]

01:19:14   talk about galaxy quest if you want even [TS]

01:19:15   more galaxy quest that by grabthar's [TS]

01:19:17   hammer please please don't make them do [TS]

01:19:19   that [TS]

01:19:20   that wraps it up don't forget to buy the [TS]

01:19:25   random track t-shirt on your way out and [TS]

01:19:29   thank you [TS]