00:00:00 ◼ ► I'm just waiting for you man anytime you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► want to start perfectly ready to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► always ready to go on a percent the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/5">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► something we didn't talk about last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► was that you snuck into WWDC oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/10">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► guess that happens it did happen i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► like i have been so busy I have lost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/17">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► yeah we're both back in London now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/23">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► arrive significantly later than me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/25">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► because you went to VidCon as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/27">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► yeah I'm freshly in London and so still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/29">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► freshly jetlagged actually but i'm back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/34">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► back for I think three weeks before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► turn right back around and go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► America head for the moment i'm here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/44">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► I know it's the summer of lots of travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/49">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► hashtag queen creek SC I've at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► given myself five weeks before i go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► oh yeah what are you going back for I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/58">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► don't even remember i'm going to Memphis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/59">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► yeah that's going to be looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/65">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► to it although memphis in August seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► I'm sure it's fine i think im gonna melt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► look I think unlike London Memphis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► should be built for the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► gets to be a hundred degrees so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/77">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► should be fine as long as you stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/78">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► indoors i had just go there to stay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► my hotel for the whole time so it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► just stay here it's a great approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► right to the vacations is staying in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► yeah it's great actually literally no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► problem with this so you should have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► great time in Memphis just be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► hotel when you were in the redc people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► know that you were in San Francisco but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► you actually went into Moscow knee where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► they hold the developer conference you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► found a way and I think you broke for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/105">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► like an open window or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/106">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► what did I do yeah I stuck around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/114">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► that's what i did was sneaking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► and tell that you go and see some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► talks law like sessions it was sneaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/124">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► around means being super Sneaky and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► visit www.uscash Nikki for about six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► minutes i think before you started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/136">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► incessantly tweeting about the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► well what actually occurred was i got in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► there there were a few things that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► really want to do and then once I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► like okay great i have had minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► viable WWDC experience and if I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► caught now I won't mind so much then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► started tweeting so I was always quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► and mute I think for the first few hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► and then afterwards I got a hell with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► this i'm just going to tweet about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/163">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► fact that i'm here because it's funny to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► do I mean the answer to your question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► what did i do their mean primarily I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/169">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► really just a tourist at WWDC i am not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/173">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► developer i have no real reason to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► there whatsoever but I am interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/180">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► apple i'm interested in development in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/185">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► an abstract kind of way i'm curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► see a little bit of of not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► behind the scenes but a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► of the business side of Apple like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/196">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► conference where the kinds of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► how do these toxic oh I was just curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► to see all over this stuff in person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► so I went in and actually how I attended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/209">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► a few of the sessions I die just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► to pick titles that seemed at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/215">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► you sound surprised by that Mike I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/221">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► I know that you have a better base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► understanding than i do but some of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► stuff but this at any session I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► seen kind of really bores me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► they start to encode onstage and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► start can't understand it no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► much I try blue yeah this is a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/238">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► where I have no experience with Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/242">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► and i have no experience with see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► Swift's predecessor language I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► the language i am most familiar with is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► actually lisp from years ago which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► bizarre language and I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/258">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► yeah if you just look at what list looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► no other programming language because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/266">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► the whole thing is based on parentheses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► it doesn't it doesn't even have like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/270">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► is just missing many of the features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/274">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► that you would expect a normal computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► programming language to have em yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► well those good features double missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► yes that's right like you know which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► the good ones yes all of the good one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► has all the bad ones that now it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► impractical for very many situations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/290">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► nonetheless is the one that I have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/294">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► most experience when she is it for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► is the one that's used for some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/297">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► oh so out of the time it was used for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/303">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► programming i have no idea if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► language is still in use today for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► purposes but you know ten years ago this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► was the language that because of some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► its strange features was very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► useful for doing the kind of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► you are writing a program to program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► itself as opposed to writing it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► explicitly solve a problem so lisp very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/327">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► language you would want to use under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/333">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► most circumstances but the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► was familiar with the years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► while i could not program my way out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► a paper bag today even with Lisp if i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/342">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► sitting in a session at WWDC and they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► the throwing code on the screen thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► while I will agree with you it does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► the level of boringness personally does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► go up quite a lot during those moments I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► can still at least follow the gist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/359">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► like I have a sense of what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/364">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► talking about or or what this is code is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/365">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► doing even though i can't follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► details so that's why sitting in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/371">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► session it was an interesting thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► do during this experience like I said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► just tried to pick ones that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► relevant to my interests so the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► one I went to was on research kit so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► they were doing a little session about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► some of the changes with research kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► which is their system that allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► scientists and medical researchers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► try to collect data from patients and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► try to give feedback to patients and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► that was interesting to see I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► what what they're up to there and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► also just set it on another one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► was about developing games for the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► I like the whole notion of that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► thought was really funny because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► so little space here I was just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/414">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► curious to see you know like what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/415">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► they think is a viable option for a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► and that means to date the only thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/421">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► have ever seen which I thought was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► of an interesting game for Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► with something called i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/428">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► yes very optional and you have to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► of talk to the astral right yeah that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► that i thought was interesting begin its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► it's essentially like a little text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/440">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► adventures is kind of what's occurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/441">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► but I thought the the whole idea of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/442">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► wrist communicator and you're sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/445">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► messages back and forth like it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► worked on the Apple watch but i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► curious to see like what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► developing for games in general like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► they're having a session here they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► clearly think that there is something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/455">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► the idea of gaming on the Apple watch so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► i went in and i watch that and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/459">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► it was interesting and i also like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► try to look out for the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► Apple isn't saying so I couldn't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► but notice during the entire time I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► sitting in that Apple watch session that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► they were never ever mentioning force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► pressing on the Apple watch and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/475">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► announcement I thought huh i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► they mentioned anything about force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► and so just little things like that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► just get curious and I think I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► what's up with that there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► situations here what it would seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► make sense that you want to have force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/491">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► pressing on the screen especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► games but it seems notably absent so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► yeah I just like being in the sessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► and trying to read between the lines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► what Apple's upto which is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► always always fun doing the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/504">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► Criminology of Apple discussions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/505">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► events so yeah that was a is primarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/509">TS</a>]
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00:10:08 ◼ ► start getting recognized by a few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► who were there and that was fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► also i was able to actually end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/613">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► speaking to a few people who make apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/617">TS</a>]
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00:10:24 ◼ ► experience to be able to do that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/624">TS</a>]
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00:10:46 ◼ ► tack in those moments you might think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/646">TS</a>]
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00:10:53 ◼ ► their own reasons if someone asks then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/653">TS</a>]
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00:11:44 ◼ ► density of people who work on a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/704">TS</a>]
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00:12:00 ◼ ► Twitter that i was i was at WWDC because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/720">TS</a>]
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00:12:30 ◼ ► this big ground area WWDC where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/750">TS</a>]
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00:12:40 ◼ ► apples attempt to put a program on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/760">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► iPads which can be used to learn how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/765">TS</a>]
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00:13:10 ◼ ► implemented in the future or where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/790">TS</a>]
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00:13:16 ◼ ► able to do that if you installed iOS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/796">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► on any of your iPad's now I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► installed anything yet i will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► wait for one of the public betas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/805">TS</a>]
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00:13:33 ◼ ► least use iPads yeah primarily so that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/813">TS</a>]
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00:14:01 ◼ ► keep meaning to play with it but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► haven't yet its installed i just haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► done anything with it because i'm too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/844">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► busy sending hot stickers to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/845">TS</a>]
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00:14:14 ◼ ► do a spin-off podcast where you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► could learn Swift together called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/856">TS</a>]
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00:14:21 ◼ ► going to happen but it seems like since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► you just distracted by the stickers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/863">TS</a>]
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00:14:26 ◼ ► co-host another developer co-host for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/866">TS</a>]
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00:17:00 ◼ ► Hollywood and to attend VidCon yeah what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► is VidCon can you explain food con like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► in a one-liner what what is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► it feels like the YouTube conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► no mike is not the YouTube conference it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► oh I forget about all the other online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► video services that are probably rolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► into their makeup a big part of it yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► they're very clear on that despite that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► YouTube announces new features and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► CEO speaks on the main stage several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► times and that they bring in all the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► YouTube stars it is the online video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► conference I and they also have scores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► yes somewhere and it was gone they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► they had five people and they had all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► yeah I have no idea at all Paul video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► they're in a different business they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► have a different business model video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► but it's still fun to just make fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► or maybe the Amazon service that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► announced a few months ago that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► haven't heard anything about yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► yeah forgot about that so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► remember that the other day and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► like what happened with that I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► signed up for it and then I just totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► oh well but yes so with amazon strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► represented at VidCon too so just to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► clear it is not the YouTube conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► YouTube does not run it it is the online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► video conference and it is run by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► vlog brothers i think i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► this sixth year it's it's been going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► it has turned very rapidly into just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► this enormous enormous industry event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► that this year had I think 26,000 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► it's absolutely absolutely enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► thing and for comparison's sake WWDC has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► 5,000 people so it's five times larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► than WWDC no don't wanna sound good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► it's at it's absolutely enormous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► because of its enormity it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► little bit hard to try to describe what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► the experience is like being there but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► guess you can say there's there's three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► main groups of people who are showing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► there are people who work in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► industry of online video and this can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► mean all kinds of stuff this can mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► advertiser's this can mean production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► companies this can mean agents like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► is all the industry stuff there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► creators so people like myself people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► who produce online video and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► are an enormous number of fans who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► showing up to scream when their favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► YouTube person comes onstage like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► just it's just an enormous enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► gathering that is difficult to put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► words and that i had avoided for very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► many years but because of real Akon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► stroke WWDC week being the weak directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► before VidCon i decided to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► have a two-week period of i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► knuckle down and I'm going to meet a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► of people this is what i'm going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► i'm just going to set aside these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► weeks i might as well they're both in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► California if I'm if I'm flying out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► there for one I might as well fly out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► there for the other then it becomes kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► of a an interesting way to spend a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► of time during the summer so that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► i did i spent two weeks at each event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► meeting an enormous number of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► then being tremendously exhausted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► do you consider this networking you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► that that's what you're doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► that's an interesting question i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► say no because the word networking it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► like a sleazy word isn't it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► yeah but I i actually think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► core of what it is is a good thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► when I'm saying that working here i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► not talking about like going to the bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► and doing like a corporate speed-dating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► thing something I have seen and avoided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► so you can get to know the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► oh I'm busy to save me yeah many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► oh you did oh I'd like I don't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► that was that was that was a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► me in a different industry many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► years ago but even then I was like nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► do not want no small parts because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► how many hands are shaking in a short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► period of time exactly but I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► more in the sense of meeting new people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► who are in your industry that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► getting to know to maybe strike up some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► kind of working relationship or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► maybe even feel like for friendship or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► business or just so you have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► contacts that is something ever pops up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► one day you can be like I know someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► for this it's interesting because i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► also been thinking a bunch about why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► I do this because that this thing I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► think almost everybody i have ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► mentioned it to that I was going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► to WWDC and VidCon one the week after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► the other was quite surprised that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► would do such a thing and I myself was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► little bit surprised that is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► crossed my radar as a thing to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► part of it was I've like I've just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► thinking about how i did this and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► doing this year of less as part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► theme for the year and it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► crossing my mind about like what do i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► after the year of less and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► things I was toying around with was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► idea of like a year of new like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► doing new things and this certainly fell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► into the category of something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► new to do and in addition to just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► a new thing to do it was also just a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► of new people to meet and a and a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► of new people to interact with and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► feeling is not so much that i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► there and I'm sort of networking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► the idea that these people are business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► contacts i think my primary my primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► was just one of there are very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► people in the world who do the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► work that I do especially when you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► talking about the online video side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► it and doubly so when you start talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► about the online video side of it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► my face is not visible on camera like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► that starts getting into be the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► very small numbers of people who do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► and so part of going on this trip was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► being able to meet some new people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► that field in particular which was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► thing that I was able to do I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► glad to be able to do it but even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► broadly I find that people who make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► their living in a public way and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► can include people like developers right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► they are making a thing and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► putting it out in public for this can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► include lots of people in the periphery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► of the whole YouTube world of like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► make a thing and they put it out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► public even just knowing more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► like that is it's just nice to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► contacts with people who do similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► things because even if you work in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► different areas there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► comparisons and similar experiences so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► can have conversations with developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► where I you know I don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► conversation that is sort of about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► the creative process because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► similarities between writing code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► writing a script they require a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► kind of work and then there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► similar kind of responses to putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► your workout in public so i just found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► it valuable to interact with people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► I mean aside from you Mike I know nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► in london in my social circle who does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► work like this and so we can always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► that when you do work in public on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► internet you feel like sort of connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► to a bunch of people but they're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► going to be geographically distant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► because the frequency of anyone doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► this work is so rare so i get i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► like in that sense it's networking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► because my feeling was a bit like i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► going to meet up with colleagues they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► might not do the exact same thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► do but there is a colleague like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► relationship with a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► people and also i can go meet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► people who are new colleagues to me by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► people i have never interacted before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► but we have this kind of commonality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► doing work in public so i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► does that is my very long probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► overly detailed response to was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► yes but it depends slightly on on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► you mean by networking but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► certainly know speed dating business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► networking though based on the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► networking the I think often do you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► networking like this is how I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► it me just meeting people in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► industry like I i recommend to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► always if you do something like software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► development or your design or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► like that there are probably meetups in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► your area like you don't have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► California you know that they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► are likely meetups that you can go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► that will have like-minded people doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► this kind of thing so you can make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► I think that even though you're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► maybe approaching this from a sense of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► just want to know people you know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► for kind of camaraderie and you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► sense of not kind of feeling alone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► this which you can at times especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► when you work at home and in solitary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► it's nice to know that there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► out there that you can talk to that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► are aware doing the same kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► but there really is a business side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► it that you potentially don't see right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► you reached out to me when I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► relay them and we and it's got a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► kind of thing and we went for lunch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► then we are working together like many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► months down the line and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► same for me for me going to WDC WDC is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► one of the most important things on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► calendar is one of the most vital things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► that i do as part of my business in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► year and it has been the most vital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► thing I've done in business over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► last four years I've attended there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► because I get to meet people and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► faces to names and kind of get in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► of people that I think are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► interesting work or that i enjoy their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► work and then they get to learn a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► bit about me they get to see how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► interact and its kind of led to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► real anthem is now you know other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► that we work with people that I've met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► and that Steven's met at these types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► events and over time we struck up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► friendships and working relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► which eventually built to the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► I'm doing now I think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► in-person meetings and conversations to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► people because it helps strengthen bonds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► even if you know somebody online and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► talked to them every single day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► multiple messaging services it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► really important to just see how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► talk and look at their body language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► see their face when they talk to you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► these in person scenarios because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► really kind of just helps fill out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► picture of that person because then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► you're apart again and you're talking as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► different kind of feeling and sense for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► that individual and that could be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► important for building the relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► that you want to build whatever their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► yeah i definitely agree that no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► how much online contact you have with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► people it is fundamentally different to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► talk to people in person and that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► relationship is always different after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► some amount of in-person time no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► how small has been spent and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► just no way around that it's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► you know humans being the monkeys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► we are that there there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► there's something different that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► in your brain after you meet someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► real life I think your monkey brain does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► a better job of modeling the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► person in your mind when you are then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► talking to them online later or it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► makes the person more real in this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► this way which is undefinable there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► a number of people that i met this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► summer who I had had a bunch of texts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► interchanges with over the internet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► it's still fundamentally different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► when you actually see them in person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► spend some time together in person it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► just like there's some part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► brain that kind of needs this or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► that treats things differently when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► when the person is more embodied for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► and I do think that this is um it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► the next level of i wrote this article a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► while back called faceless voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► talking about radio voices or narration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► voices and how something in your brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► changes if you ever see a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► that person like if you just hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► someone's voice and then you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► they look like your brain treats it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► differently and I really do I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► think that that's something going on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► the mind that if you hear a voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► unconnected from a face your brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► experiences in a different way than once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► you know what the face looks like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► think there's another level past that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► which is you've heard the person you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► know what their face looks like but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► they are sitting in front of you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► the two of you are exchanging you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► nonverbal communication in the form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► body language or the way you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► i really do think that that matters a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► lot for human interaction the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► can't replace that yet maybe when vr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► gets good enough but not at the moment i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► will just reiterate what would you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► saying earlier though that even if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► not my intention to make business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► connections that doing this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► stuff in the past has has definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► resulted in business opportunities like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► the very first conference of this that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► ever went to was this conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► organized by Henry of minutephysics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► called brainstem at the perimeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► institute in canada and for various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► reasons i was trying to leave my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► teaching job at the exact same time at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► that conference was happening it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► just like this horrible horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► disaster of like a difficult time to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► get to Canada for that conference it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► there was a incredible nightmare but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► was determined I was determined to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► there and I still really think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► might be one of the most defining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► conferences i ever go to because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► the first time that I met a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► colleagues and friends and like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► absolutely sure that if i had never gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► to that brain stem conference I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► never have started the hell original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► podcast with Brady because that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► first time that I met him and because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► met him then when I met him again at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► later conferences that YouTube put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► now we were meeting for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► we were already meeting as friends right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► and starting a little bit earlier makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► a difference and I also think that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► the random acts of intelligence show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► that happened a couple years ago now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► that would have never been put on if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► five of us hadn't met at brainstem as so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► like and those are definitely cases of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► getting to know people and then thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► hey maybe we can work together on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► podcast or hey that you know the five of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► us really get along together maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► could do some kind of fun one-off show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► you you never know where it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► go and like you said you know I our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► podcast was just a side effect of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► mainly because like oh look it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► Creator who lives in London like let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► send him a message because I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► anybody else who lives in the city you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► know they're like oh surprise surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► like we we do similar work and so we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► along and then and then eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2089">TS</a>]
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00:37:18 ◼ ► Evernote now I don't know if and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► whenever know has ever come up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► show but I know that we have both been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► mm like I'm gonna hazard a guess to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► that seriously i think i may have had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► never ever no account for about 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► yeah and I know that sounds that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► like an incredibly long time but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► it's getting if not then it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► eight you know it's getting close to 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► years if not already ten years because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► got in pretty much immediately for when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► they launched em the reason that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► bringing this up right now is because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► the document for quite awhile i have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► a little bullet point which was simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► called fuck Evernote has is an item to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► talk about so many people that I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► that use Evernote have in some way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► yeah and that probably come to the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► that it's a ten-year-old product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► yeah i think there's as many as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► complicated things that are are wrapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► incidentally that Evernote has done some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► pricing changes and so I feel like if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► were ever going to get to this bullet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► point maybe this week is the week so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► first thing is I I would actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► it if you could summarize for me in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► clear and concise way what changes have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► just occurred Evernote because i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► figure out for the life of me what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► I think you've lost the wrong person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► icon work it out Eva basically they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► increased their pricing plans so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► more expensive than they were before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► the free plan i think only works with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► two devices now and if you got want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► use more than two devices you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► to now one of the two paid plan plus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► man and I think it's confusing very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► confusing and I know as a current event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► a premium customer they have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► contacted me to tell me what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► to my account if I'm gonna be paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► more it seems like i probably will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► paying more and then they just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► different features and different storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► space so it's so clear so simple Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2382">TS</a>]
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00:39:49 ◼ ► evernotes more expensive and for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2389">TS</a>]
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00:39:53 ◼ ► of devices you can use that's like in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2393">TS</a>]
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00:39:58 ◼ ► it which is making the whole thing a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2398">TS</a>]
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00:40:03 ◼ ► just just reading through the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► description of what they've changed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► the website it's like oh okay you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► raised the prices but with only one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► the plans can you search inside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2412">TS</a>]
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00:40:15 ◼ ► thing of which services like okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► right now I need to have the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► expensive one to do that it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► like I've seen a lot of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► super angry at Evernote about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► yeah i think the OCR is only on premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► and if you want to download notes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► have to have one of the paid ones is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► it basically they had a feature set that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► was available to everyone and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► split it and then they split it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► and then devices all right so then your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► product and sometimes it feels ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2448">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► interesting because i think many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► have had a feeling from the outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► what's going on Evernote the company has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► gone through some weird announcements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► over the past year if i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► correctly like what the CEO changed then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► they laid off a bunch of people I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► like I've been just been hearing odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► news about Evernote for a year yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► which makes you feel not super secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► out a product that is supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► keeping your off-board brain safe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► everywhere and it doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► make you feel good and it's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► company that seems to have been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► significant changes that that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► want actually when we were in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► Francisco we ended up driving past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► headquarters of Evernote at 1.44 we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► looking at the building and also get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► yeah i believe i believe someone might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► have suggested to write do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► about work chat on a brick and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► know which is kind of the feeling about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► how intrusive Evernote is about letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► you know if they have worked at how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► notification why don't you just throw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► brick through my window at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► but when we drove past it as with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► companies but particularly with Evernote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► I looked at this huge building and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► had the feeling of what to all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► people in there do i just i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► ability to understand how a building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► full of people equals the product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► is Evernote and i will now tell you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► reason why I originally had that bullet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► point listed as it is in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► because ok here is the selling point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► Evernote save everything in this digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► brain write this this little app can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► this is what all of their branding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► marketing is about the elephant never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► forgets right there icon is an elephant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► elephants never forget right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► this is fantastic okay great so i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► been using everyone for a very very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► time as you have and you saw a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► while ago for one of our book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► episodes that i have a system that I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► with Evernote to make a record of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► the books that i read so here's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► no that I've had for quite a while i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► read a book now I'm reading it on ibooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► formerly on kindle but it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► idea and so I make a bunch of highlights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► as i go through the book and sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► type little notes to myself it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► know active reading and just pulling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► the parts that i think are important or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► that are interesting at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► reading any particular book i take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► screenshots of all of the pages with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► highlights or notes on them and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► would make in Evernote a folder with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► name of the book and I would dump all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► those pages in there sometimes I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► go through again and make like further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► annotations to future me and this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► extremely useful thing to do because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► like when we do the book shows for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► example i'm able to just pull up out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► here is all the pages from the book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► i'm looking at only the relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► sections and the notes to myself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► also super valuable is because Evernote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► recognition i can search through all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► that stuff and what's really useful is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► that you can't possibly remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► everything from ever every book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► you've ever read but if i'm doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► video on some topic i can search for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► couple of keywords related to that video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► topic and sometimes I would find a page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► of text from a book i read a while ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► that had something interesting that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► related to the topic that I'm working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► now so it's it's this it has been this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► way for me for years to keep books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► i have read in active memory and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► along with all of the other various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► collecting regularly for videos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► stuff so this is the process that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► been doing for quite a while and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► really really deep into Evernote with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► this as you can quite imagine now about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► two months ago which is when i first put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► this bullet point in the document i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► to go follow my little process as normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► and i had finished a book I taken all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► the screenshots I thought okay great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► here we go time to make a new notebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► and a time to save these pages into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► and I press the press the new notebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► nothing happens nothing happens when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► press the new notebook button so i tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► on a different device press the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► notebook button nothing happens huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► how interesting i opened up alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► interface to evernote and the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► notebook button is grayed out I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► well gee that's strange and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► dawns on me i do a google search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► Evernote notebook limit and sure enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► well sure enough they only allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► have 250 notebooks why that is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► want to know why why Evernote isn't this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► your whole business is to remember all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► the things why why on earth would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► ever limit the number of notebooks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► why would you do this you have a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► building filled with people you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► servers you have monthly revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► why on earth would you ever limit this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► this is what your business does this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► your selling point but no somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► summer Rae some dude was like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► 250 that's enough hard-coded limit right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► and it's not even like 256 or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► so like oh maybe i'm running into a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► that nobody just considered but they ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► out of space in there integer now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► someone just decided there's 250 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► okay even better Mike I'm googling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► around this like I cannot believe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► but then I find out there is a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► don't worry don't worry you can archive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► some of your notebooks to get back space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► so I know you can take a whole section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► you can archive a bunch of notebooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► oh that sounds great what happens when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► oh don't worry it's still there it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► won't show up in search and it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► great thanks so how do you get it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► can manually go to like an archive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► section to manually go look through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► everything but i will remind you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► whole purpose of the way you store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► things in Evernote is to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► search for things not to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► rise everything an absolutely perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► way and it's just like you know i I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► been feeling of been feeling vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► irritated with a whole bunch of minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► things in Evernote for a very long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► not least of which is how awful their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► app is to use on ipad but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► living with it forever because of the ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► well there's there's just this debt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► I have but like Evernote is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► only remaining programs where I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► prefer to use it on the computer simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► because using on the ipad is so awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► but again it's like it's a building full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► of people like why haven't you been able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► to update your ipad app to be usable on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► I don't know an ipad for anyone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► ever used this for 10 seconds like has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► anybody ever used this program on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► iPad Evernote what are you doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► those hundreds of people or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► it's it's so infuriating but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► living with all of this stuff for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► while just kind of like girl I whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► Evernote but you got me because I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► literally over 3,000 individual notes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► Evernote and there really is nobody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► to tell us what they do in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► yeah I've been living with it for ages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► like you have a hard-coded limits that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► have just run up against and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► nothing that I can do thanks a lot into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► it feels like it's just a gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► middle finger for being a user over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► long period of time like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► that's just what it feels like a guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► what when your when your technical debt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► like when you're just when you're into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► this far far too much and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► we're going to show you that we have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► arbitrary limit for no good reason look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► great thanks thanks Evernote really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► appreciate that one so frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► so what are you gonna do I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► I mean if the answer is for the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► couple months I've been just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► like not saving notes because i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► don't have a good solution right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► this is not a good solution either I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► have i have tried to look into some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► the alternatives and the only one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► even comes remotely close to being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► to replace Evernote is Microsoft's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► note that this is the only program out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► there that is sort of close to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► able to do whatever no does right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► aldo name that was my main things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► do they do OCR because the OCR is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► totally killer feature OCR is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► optical character recognition so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► save an image like for example a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► screenshot of a bunch of texts from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► book or i can I have tons of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► infographics and just a huge number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► images that i can save and when I search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► OCR the optical character recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► will recognize those actual words and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► have to say evernotes OCR is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► impressive again is pulled up stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► the back of photos that I would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3058">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► notice would like there's a little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► written on a sign or something like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► it's also why okay great i can rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► this and so for a while I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► microsoft onenote had a majority are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► they have added since I checked last but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► the problem with OneNote is their whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► structure right there whole layout is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► not dislike their hierarchy is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► you can have a notebook and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► notebook can have a bunch of tabs in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► as opposed to evernote which allows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► to have like an arbitrary number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► so you can have a notebook that contains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► a hundred notebooks and so for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► like i have a notebook which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► called book notes and within that are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► bunch of other notebooks each for each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► individual book but the OneNote metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► is much more like you you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► notebook and that notebook has a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► of tabs on the top kind of like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► going to have browser windows and let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► tell you tabs on the top does not scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► when you want to have a hundred of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► i clearly in one notes design conception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► they were kind of thinking that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► notebook will ever have more than a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► know maybe half a dozen tabs in it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► just not designed to work like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► structurally unacceptable plus their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► icon is so Microsoft and purple it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► really here sorry 10 teams it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► ugly had that they have an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► design language do you think some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► structural stuff is just because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► too baked in your mind to the way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► networks i have been trying to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► about how to make this work and I am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► am not in any way devoted to the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► it is simply a question of how can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► have a way that sorts of things like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► want to corral all of my book notes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► a separate section but also be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► access any of them at any point in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► and I want to be able to group all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► projects in process together like in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► little place and I want to group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► together all of my future projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► together all in one place I when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► have a large number of notebooks and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► don't see any way around that you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► some structure that is on top of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► the notebook level you need to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► to group them together in a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► way but the thing is i I just I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► what is going to have to happen is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► I'm just going to have to move over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► OneNote and just deal with it as best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► can because my current situation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► presenting Evernote but still being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► premium user is the worst of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► it's like shaking my fist at Evernote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► not using it but i'm still paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► their service and like now they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► a price increase so potentially paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► more like well this is dumb like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► these things has to give and self I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► actual plan is Microsoft's does have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► little program that will let you import [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► an Evernote database but of course it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► only runs on a windows computer they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► didn't make one for Mac thanks guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► so I was thinking well i guess i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► know how i'm going to use this and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► I remembered oh my father has a windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► computer so i think when I visit my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► family for part two this summer just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► computer install my Evernote let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► download all 3,000 notes install one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► note and then my dad's windows laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► run this program which should be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► import everything from Evernote in 21 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► notes like I think that's I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► just what's going to have to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► because i can't i can't think of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► other tool or or solution for this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► this doesn't necessarily help with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► problem but it is just worth noting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► apples notes app on the Mac will import [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► well it interesting out I'm too scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► to do this because I have literally no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► idea what will happen but yeah let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► it's also interesting because notes has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► a flat hierarchy of folders it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► like folders and folders just like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► are you gonna do with the notebooks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► notebooks importer it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► interesting thing to find out exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► what I don't want any part of it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► will do it i'm feeling like i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► move away from Evernote now as well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► isn't like a wake up for me or it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► I use it for just one thing and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► even really need to do that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► basically i use Evernote now for travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► stuff so when i get the emails of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► confirmation things I send them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► evernote and I know that there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► bunch of apps that are specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► built for this purpose stuff like trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► and things like that but ever know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► just been always what I use because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► everything downloaded and it's there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► who but for my next upcoming trip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► memphis I'm trying out something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► different and hoping that it will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► a better solution for me I'm basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► just using Apple notes so i have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► previously more recently writing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► just a simple text note with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► information in it like basic flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► information and confirmation numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► hotel addresses like that so that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► there when I need it but what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► realized i can do from Stephen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► connected recommend this to me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► completely forgot you could do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► save pdfs into apple notes so now when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► get confirmation emails of trips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► application a man which can take an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► email and turn it into a PDF and then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► just opened up in apple notes and append [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► it to the travel note that i started so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► now i have a note which has all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► basic text information and a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► pdfs down at the bottom and I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► is probably going to be the solution for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► me going forward i'm going to try out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► one trip if it works flawlessly is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► pretty much expected well I'm i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► information and then kind of cancel my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► whoo yeah that sounds like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► probably the reasonable thing for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► do for what i'm using it for I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► makes the most sense because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► literally all i do have ever know now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► just email and travel stuff and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► are a bunch of specifically purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► tools that do this better i've been told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► but also i just want to use notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► because notes has kind of become my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► brain now who that is now my off-board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► yeah and I wonder how many people are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► a similar situation to you where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► price raised in Evernote reminds them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► that they basically don't use Evernote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► anymore and it is time to cancel i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► i'm paying something like five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► pounds a month for Evernote and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► a lot of money but i guess it is if i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► yeah it does you might as well cancel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► if you're essentially using it to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► keep track of a single thing that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► at this point the only reason I'm paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► for is because they're limiting the free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► account to two devices because i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► use any of the other features right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► something like raise the prices i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► that presumption is they need more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► think that's probably why they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► raising the prices and and that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► just it seems to be adding to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► Evernote tale of woe with shrinking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► company and then also still needing more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► money and now with with the somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► confusing upgrade structure i wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► be surprised if Evernote finds itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► fewer paying customers and fewer revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► after this price change like I just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► wondering what's going to happen on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► because it's something like I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► heard anything about these this price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► change but sooner or later something's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► going to have to happen and i'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► willing to bet that with all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► improvements that Apple has made two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► notes which you know everybody seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► love and even though i use notes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► very minimal way I can tell it it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► like I have a hard time imagining who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► the Evernote user that couldn't get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► with using notes I think that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► very few people and when facing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► option of do you want to pay more for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► Evernote in this complicated structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► or do you just want to use notes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► this point this year notes is is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► enough for almost everybody who probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► use Evernote yep and and so that that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► me adds to this feeling of this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► elephant standing on a sinking ship from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► which all of the rats are fleeing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► Evernote release it feels like I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► if you listen to this any work at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► impression from the outside like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► the great things about Evernote is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► fact that it's everywhere like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► one of its great things is on all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► devices on all platforms so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► you're going to get it where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► that is like one of its best features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► who so like you know if i have opened my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► android phone ever know is there and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► notes of there right there are very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► applications that are in as many places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► as evident but in the same way and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► think that's been part of their undoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► because they've wasted time and effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► on making things like a pebble app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► developer time no I mean and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► fundamentally one of the things that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► really upsetting about this is this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3658">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► device limit is not friendly to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► who have come around to live the malt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► ipad lifestyle right yeah sure that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► that's the real sticking point for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3668">TS</a>]
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01:01:15 ◼ ► the mall typepad lifestyle dictates at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► least to iOS devices unacceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► well these two if you don't iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► is going to be 3 because everybody needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► a phone exactly you have two ipads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► actually now so for all the Republic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► Texians who are living the righteous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► multi ipad lifestyle Evernote free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► account is totally unacceptable and i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► look there's notes just sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► getting better every year waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► I think I think that's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► so I mean my feeling is boy I sure would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► love it if Evernote raise the 250 limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► plot that the feeling is really one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► slow development plus weirdness about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► the company plus increasing prices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► I suspect won't actually help all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► it's time to go like it's it's time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3732">TS</a>]
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01:03:12 ◼ ► so important to monitor the availability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3792">TS</a>]
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01:03:18 ◼ ► sophisticated that they have all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► these little dependencies in them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3800">TS</a>]
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01:04:29 ◼ ► bear with me for a moment because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► think it is important to paint the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► picture of guide ghost on the reddit ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► alright alright you give you a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► leeway here okay but this better be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► ok so it's from guide ghost and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► I've been working on my side project for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► long enough that I feel that my primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► job is just taking too much of my time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► often wake up put in a solid pomodoro or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► two of progress on my side project but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► then just as I'm feeling great and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► feeling like a bride on track with it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► have to completely derail my progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► and go to work my side project is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► yet making money and I feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► gonna be hard to get it to that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► without a stretch of a few months of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► interrupted full-time work i liked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► in the career that I chose in the given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► city that I work in that there's a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► of demand for my services are all times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► so I can kind of do my own teaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► holiday schedule thing work for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► stretch quit for a few months then find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► the obvious consequence is having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► bunch of one year students on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► resume which could make future employers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► weary and it's difficult to explain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► somebody why you've done this I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► might as well continue burning my career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► to the ground anyway right it's useless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► self-employed person later right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► the TLDR of this is how many times can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► one quit their job and get a new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► before rendering themselves outwardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► unemployable this is super tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► hmm so when I left my employment I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► I was not allowing myself to think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► you're going to need to go get a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► where you're going to need to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► like when I left it was just like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► it I never left with the idea of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► put a few months and get a new job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► before that as well people knew what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► did outside but I got on my own job like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► it wasn't issues like people knew what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► was doing on the side right when I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► for the bank they were just like you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► that thing but i was already there so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► I just make sure I just got on my job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► but I can imagine this scenario being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► tough on an employer coming in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► saying like I do this thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► I've been spending some time away doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► this thing like how would you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► this person is gonna bother sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► around especially if like us or CV that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► was like one year Michael four-month gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► then another place for a year and a four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► month gap you would look at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► probably think this person is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► leave me after a year like I know if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► just employing someone saw that cv i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► think that's how I would look at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► and then once you're inside a company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4029">TS</a>]
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01:07:13 ◼ ► most companies don't care what you do on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► the side but trying to get employed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► someone with a cv like that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► it's also it's also interesting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► so i basically did this when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► trying to do anything other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► teaching on the side so I mean I've you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► know I worked as a teacher depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► how you want to count like six or seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► essentially in the in the middle ish and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► is part of that so I worked at that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► of my first schools for about four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► and then I I quit teaching for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► and then came back to teaching at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► end of that year i think that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► more palatable right like you left to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► a thing the thing didn't work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► I'm now coming back like that one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► that you do that I think that's ok but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► at a strain of that I think is difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► yeah that's that's the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► problem and also just to be clear I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► not forthcoming about the fact that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► had left to go do a thing for its real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► vague whatever doing for that year in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► between teaching why that feels like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► well I mean this is this to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► the questioners thing here this goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► the riskiness of doing something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► this is directly proportional to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► how in demand is your job right just how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► in demand is your particular set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► I mean I know we sort of took different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► tax but no one at any of the schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► that i worked at ever had any idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► I was doing anything on the side ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► and and that was very intentional i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► thought no good can come of this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► just kept my mouth shut about everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► that I was doing on the side was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► what are you doing this weekend oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► nothing i guess i said i think i said is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► no showing the past my mouth would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► been shot but I got the job in marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► because I proved that I was able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► something creative like I had no choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► you you were leveraging it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► different situation right you were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► were leveraging it to advance your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► career that's different whereas I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► to most employers excited projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► unless like in your situation they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► see how it would directly benefit them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► they're not gonna want to hear not this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► because it is splitting up you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► yeah it's letting up you're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► brain they're not going to like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► like guide ghost is doing as well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► you're if you're really serious about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► the only way to make real progress is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► do it before you go to your actual just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► got up which again is what i did like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► putting in a couple hours of work on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► things that I really cared about it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► oh yeah after I've given up the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► part of my brain that's why i never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► understood the morning part it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► make the like working on this stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► the mornings never made sense to me why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► you did it why ghost did it because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► don't you have a hard stop time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► with the way i did it i will just work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► into my body shut down and that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► difference between people and when their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► optimal work times are right and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► butBut so to get back to the main point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► i think that i was able to be a bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► vague about precisely what i had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► doing during that time I mean that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► also liked the story happened to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► out very well which was i was spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► time with family in Hawaii since I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► what people don't really question that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► right because everybody's like oh man if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► I could live in Hawaii for a long time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► yeah exactly right like school before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► were you doing then go spend time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► family like not working really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► make sure i wasn't in this exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► position now where are we interviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► yeah exactly it's probably exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► what I failed in my endeavors and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► conversation that you don't put that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► the resume this is not a good thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► do but I I again I think people were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► super inquisitive because my job was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► physics teacher right and if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► sick this one thing that's great about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► being a physics teacher is that the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► is in incredible demand and so I at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► interview I was a sound especially able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► to get a job as long as i did a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► good job on the actual interview itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► so it was just like it was kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► unless you walk out on a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► vague and shady about wanting to work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► a place right that's the only time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► would come back to bite you right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► when you're being an idiot who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► know what's happening got this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► good guy got to think about it more on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► but anyway so like I think that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► my feeling with guide ghosts here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► there's two there's two things here one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► of which is is we don't know the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► about what the side project is but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► find it's a little concerning to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► whatever it is is not already earning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► yeah if it's not making money but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► think it can after a few months of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► before making a decision like this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► would recommend that you burn the candle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► at both ends and make a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► money first because if you can't make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► I would be surprised that you would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► any money if you put all your time into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► it like what is this thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► believe will take a couple of months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► I don't know about that ya know I no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► idea i mean it's possible that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► thing ok let's just say it's possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► things like developing an app for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► example right that you can put up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► something like that i really do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► that the the business idea of a minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► viable product is something to seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► yeah and it's like what is the smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► version of this thing that someone might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► give you some money for and if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4436">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► there's no if there's no version of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► ultimately this to me feels like a hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► of a gamble and so what when I left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► teaching the first time to attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► spin up one of my older projects which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► which didn't work i was already making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► decent amount of money from the project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► before I quit teaching the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► and the only question was can I spin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► this up into a full-time living over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► next many months the answer to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► turned out to be no this is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► frustrating perhaps one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► frustrating periods in my life but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► the very least I had an indication that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► there is some level of market demand for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► the thing that I'm doing and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► question is can I just triple this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► size which i think is a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► different question from I have no income [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► from this thing now can i make it into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► full time living in the space of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► several months the other thing that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► little bit concerning is I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► what the intended schedule here is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► if I mean what my gut feeling here is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► would be better to take a a longer break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► long ish but inconvenient breaks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► employers I i don't know if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► practical to try to save up enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► say have a six-month break instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► doing to three-month breaks I i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► don't know if that is possible given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► situation but i think that to the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► question about how many times can you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► this before employers start to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► the best way to mitigate that to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► would would seem to be try to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► longer break and and then come back to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► job that is in high demand instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► switching employers more frequently for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► shorter breaks again it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► little difficult to provide advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► without specifics about what is the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► because I could see some jobs where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► wouldn't matter so much but i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► presuming that all employers would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► you say not like a series of breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► after quitting jobs after eight months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► to then not work three months or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► something along those lines because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► of the things if you're working in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlWHItM/4595">TS</a>]
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