Cortex

00:00:00 ◼   ► hey great where are you hi mike i am in [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► north carolina now start of the summer [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► of fun is no some summer fun with you [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► get summer fun from this is this is not [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► a thing what it is is a hashtag summer a [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► vastly more travel than i would like not [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► fun that's test the summer hashtag [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► occurring here I don't think you [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► understand our hashtags work [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► what do you mean flow along slowly looks [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► like I think I I think I'm fantastic and [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► hashtags someone will use that hashtag [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► but they will now someone's having that [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► summer to use that hashtag little group [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► of people who are I know also having [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► summers of many travels and and not fun [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► discussing the amount of hashtag that's [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► how it works [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► I use Twitter I know how the Twitter [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► works Mike sounds like it but yes for [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► the moment for the moment I am visiting [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► my parents in North Carolina and I'm [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► talking to you from my temporary [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► recording studio means cool text [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► messages on the way [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► oh yeah summer court xmas one of the six [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► annual cortex mrs. coming up very [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► shortly grow it multiplies when is that [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► coming up [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► I don't know what I forget when is that [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► what I think it's in august sometime [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► okay you want the people to know that [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► there's going to be a missing episode in [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► August I I feel like I have to tell them [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► i know you would prefer to just never [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► tell them but i want to listen to know I [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► think you should not tell them i think [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► people should just be surprised when its [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► core Texas you never know when it's [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► going to be court xmas I don't think [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► it's a surprise if something doesn't [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► arrive I don't think like all surprised [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► no episode i don't think people think [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► that well I mean we know we know there's [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► the regular right there's this Christmas [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► court xmas of course right there's a [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► summer court xmas and then and then [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► there are you know maybe eight to ten [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► random cortex mrs. throughout the year [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► there are many attempts at multiple [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► texts around the year but Mike always [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► pulls me back people [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► the point is trying to eke an extra [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► quart xmas Adam I think innocently [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► messaging him and now it's like oh no [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► we're going to record a show today some [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► recording show today with you and I'm [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► very happy to be here Mike say something [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► I was very happy about and in the rennet [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► from the last episode many people who [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► had applied for the animation [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► illustration position in cgpgrey [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► industries were posting their videos in [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► the red thread which was really cool so [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► there's a bunch and now I'll include a [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► couple links in the show notes to some [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► threads where you'll find some of the [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► videos that will put in the in the red [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► and it was just really interesting to [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► see the different takes that people had [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► and I really liked it so I'll encourage [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► anybody else to post in the reddit their [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► videos that they submit if they're [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► interested in sharing them because it [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► was really cool to see and also think [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► considering how much we've spoken about [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► this and you know you kind of gone [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► through the process I think it adds a [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► lot of context to kind of the way that [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► it's going through and maybe people can [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► control I insist to type of thing you're [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► looking for by looking at what maybe [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► didn't get through [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► I think it's really interesting to see [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► how its evolving I was kind of surprised [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► at how much interest there was around [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► this but I saw a whole bunch of people [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► were seem to be having fun [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► no posting those applications and and [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► talking about them maybe even some [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► people were like you know it was like a [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► little a little group of people who were [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► also each critiquing yeah the [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► applications and like giving feedback [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► the internet always surprises me in in [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► in these ways and then this is one of [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► those times in my all this there was a [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► lot of a lot of interest in this and a [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► lot of interesting discussion so yes if [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► you are listening to cortex [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► presumably this is the thing that was [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► probably of interest to you since you've [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► stuck with that stuck with us through [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► whatever it is so far two or three [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► episodes of me talking about hiring a [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► person so if you were if you want to see [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► a bit more of the behind-the-scenes of [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► that Mike will put the appropriate links [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► in the show notes whilst we're talking [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► about other people promoting something [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► that they're doing i would like to [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► promote something that I'm doing so I [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► have it I have a new project and I [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► wanted to let the cortex listeners know [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► about great i have a question Mike is a [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► podcast it is about cars how could you [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► have guessed how could you have guess i [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► have to say it seems quite out of [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► character for you to an enemy starting a [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► new podcast it seems I am very surprised [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► by this show called ingenious and [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► ingenious explores weird and wonderful [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► with [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► superior articles so this is me and my [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► real FM co-founder Steven accurate we [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► did this show together and like 2011 was [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► our first ever show together and we [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► decided to bring it back for a new [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► season when you listen to a genius to [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► you will gain some interesting knowledge [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► about things you'll probably never use [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► again fantastic that's what we promised [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► the first episode is about action park [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► which is probably the most dangerous [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► water park in US history [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► no but that's all I'm going to say for [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► now but I want to know more [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► I want to know more right now where do i [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► need to go for this free later femslash [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► ingenious and there will be a link in [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► the show notes to all right go check out [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► this news a fun show is something that [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► kind of different for us [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► I really I really I really enjoy making [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► it and I think people will enjoy [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► listening to it we've got some really [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► weird stuff in the pipeline [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► I do i do have to say I've seen a little [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► bit of the the behind-the-scenes stuff [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► and I can see that you put you put a lot [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► of work into this one and it sounds [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► super interesting what I want to know [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► mike is how on earth do you have time in [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► your schedule for another podcast how [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► many how many podcasts is this now in [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► total that you do eat maybe eight maybe [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► why I forget the number [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► that can't be right one no listen lose [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► them out Mike do this right what are the [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► shows what do you do [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► analog ok analog ananza ananza connected [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► connected cortex cortex remaster [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► remaster the panicked the pan addict [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► thoroughly considered thoroughly [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► considered ingenious ingenious and [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► upgrade and upgrade [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► ok so that's nine podcasts [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► yeah that's a lot a lot but it's my job [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► this is what I do for a living oh is [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► that believe it or not I did not I did [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► not realize that that that it's amazing [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► i don't know i don't know how you do it [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► i am super impressed that you are able [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► to do as as many as you do and enjoy [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► this thing to a whole bunch of them and [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► i'm glad you make them [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► I just I just don't know how you do it [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► I'm very impressed and there's yet [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► another one level and is more on the way [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► home or on the way constant what's up [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► this episode of cortex is brought to you [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► by Squarespace the simplest way for [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► anyone to create a beautiful landing [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► page website or online store start [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► building your website today at [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► squarespace.com and enter the offer code [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► cortex and check out to get ten percent [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► off your first purchase Squarespace puts [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► all of the power you need into your [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► hands and takes away the pain points [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► like worrying about hosting scaling and [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► what to do if you get stuck with [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► squarespace you can build a site that [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► looks professionally designed regardless [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► of skill level no coding required you'll [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► be able to make your site look exactly [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► how you want and square space isn't just [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► a pretty face they also have a [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► state-of-the-art technology to power [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► your site to ensure security and [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► stability their trusted by millions of [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► people and some of the most respected [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► brands in the world but this is just [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► getting started [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► Squarespace has a ton of awesome [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► features like twenty four seven support [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► with live chat and email they have teams [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► located in New York dubland and Portland [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► who are there to help you whenever you [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► need it [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► they have a commerce platform so if [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► you're selling stuff you can do that [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► super easily with squarespace and so [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► much more [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► that is not possible to mention in the [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► time of this ad so if you're looking for [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► a place to start a website i can [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► personally recommend Squarespace it's [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► what I run my websites on it's what you [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► should run your websites on [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► so once again go to squarespace.com to [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► get started today with your no credit [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► card required trial and when you decide [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► to sign up for Squarespace make sure to [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► use the offer code cortex to get ten [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► percent off your first purchase and to [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► show your support for this show thank [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► Squarespace for sponsoring this episode [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► and for supporting all of real afm just [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► before we started recording today [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► you tweeted something that piqued my [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► interest immediately it was a photograph [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► of to apple devices one on top of the [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► other one of them is an interesting [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► color it's a space gray color and it's a [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► macbook when you've bought a macbook [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► have bought a macbook [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► ok a macbook one the macbook one the [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► little tiny one with the single USB port [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► i'm recording on it right now as we [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► speak oh my i finished setting it up a [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► mere hour ago before we started at [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► position did you like forget to bring a [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► mac or something on your trip here I I [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► didn't bring them back on my trip I had [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► this shipped to my parents house waitin [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► for me because apple stuff is way [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► cheaper in america i knew i wanted to [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► get one of these and so that would be [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► foolish to hide in the UK and I won't [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► need it to live in my parents house and [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► i'm recording a podcast with Mike so I [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► just had it shipped in advance waiting [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► for me in a little box and then finish [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► setting up this morning that I could be [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► recording this podcast with you right [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► now [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► why did you buy this why did you want [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► one when you have the macbook pro right [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► okay yeah i have a macbook pro hey look [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► up no judgment i have two ipads right [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► like I'm just talking [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► did I don't feel I don't feel judged for [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► what I feel is I posted this because I [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► ok so i got the this little macbook one [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► and I brought with me on my travels my [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► 12.9 inch iPad bro and it's just funny [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► when you unbox the macbook one next to [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► an ipad pro because it's a tiny little [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► thing it's it's a weird moment when you [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► realized wait a minute i own an ipad [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► that is significantly bigger then my [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► laptop and my mac laptop is it so it's a [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► weird little moment [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► yeah and so i I just I thought like oh [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► this is this is kind of interesting that [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► these tooth like the size difference in [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► these two things it's it feels like a [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► bizarre crossover moment in technology [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► like this like this should never happen [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► but here we are like we're through the [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► looking glass people iPads are bigger [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► than max and so I just thought oh let me [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► take a picture of this like I thought [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► this was kind of interesting as always [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► these things on Twitter you seem like a [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► surprising reaction from just a bunch of [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► people who are like what the hell is [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► going on like what is happening what's [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► this crazy is like why would anybody do [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► this and so is always with the stuff I [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► just find myself surprised that what [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► from my perspective seem like i just [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► thought about some stuff for the summer [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► and I made [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► the decision and I got a piece of [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► equipment and then there's the seems to [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► feel like people freaking out and like [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► riding in the streets but like why is [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► this happening I don't understand [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► explain it to me I feel like I don't [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► know what to explain it's all it's all [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► quite reasonable from my perspective I [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► think part of it comes from the fact [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► that this is a controversial computer [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► right that you know it has the single [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► USBC port which is kind of weird and not [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► widely supported and adopted its super [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► thin and it's has been underpowered and [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► it's a little better now and it's um [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► it's just a strange computer room [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► anyways the keyboard is different and [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► not more than a lot of people like it so [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► just seeing a seeing anybody buy this [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► machine over the last few months that [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► has been available this is always been [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► like what is your reason for this so [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► that is why it's interesting to me [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► especially because a lot of the stuff [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► that you do on a Mac takes em probably [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► more computing power than this thing [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► comfortably gives em because you use a [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► mac now for very specific task right [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► we've outlined in the show making videos [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► recording podcasts and playing games and [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► I don't think that this computer will be [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► really good any of those things so like [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► partly what I wanted to talk to you [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► about this i just wanted to check the [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► even you that we added did you think me [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► out like I just didn't know what I was [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► even buying it as well [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► shiny right you do look how small and [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► light [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► I like that the first of all I was [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► perfectly aware of this look let me let [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► me let me let me walk you through this [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► and so I've actually i was in [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► preparation for the summer which I've [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► been dreading for months and and [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► reference many times like I have the [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► summer of just a ton of flights and [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► family stuff and then and just like so [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► much travel occurring that I'm just [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► exhausted thinking about it you know [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► telling of how many how many flights [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► going to do and also thinking that the [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► course of this summer is essentially [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► that I'm i have pretty much three months [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► in a row of a very heavy constant travel [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► so I'm going I'm going to be moving [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► around a lot [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► write a and I've been thinking about and [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► and preparing for this in a whole bunch [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► of ways of trying to think about how can [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► I make this summer as tolerable as [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► possible but all and and also a question [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► of okay i know that i am going to in one [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► way because i'm doing so much stuff I [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► have to ramp down some of the work that [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► i'm doing like I can't keep up my normal [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► work schedule and then also add on top [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► of it like all of this this travel and [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► like family obligations and things like [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► it's just it's just not possible but I [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► just like but i do need to do some work [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► like what's happening at this very [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► moment like we're recording an episode [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► of the podcast stuff still needs to [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► happen and so I was I've been thinking [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► about it for a while about like what am [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► I gonna do what am I going to do and I [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► was kind of running through all of the [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► pieces of software that I use and and I [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► was essentially working on an article [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► trying to outline a bunch of these [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► thoughts and in the process of writing [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► that article i came to the conclusion of [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► I I know what I can do I have a solution [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► for this [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► what I'm going to do is I'm going to buy [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► the macbook one and bring that with me [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► as my work computer for a few very [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► specific tasks and while it is not the [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► most powerful computer i did test out [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► the thing that matters most to me which [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► is podcasting on the road is is this a [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► machine that can do podcasting on the [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► road it's the home and actually did was [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► I uploaded a couple of audio files to a [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► private and anonymous dropbox URL and [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► then I went into an apple store and I [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► went to one of the macbook ones that [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► they had on the table huh [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► and i downloaded those files and was [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► doing some audio editing with them in [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► the store on the macbook just to make [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► sure like can I do this [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► can this machine comfortably handle [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► doing audio and like it doesn't have to [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► be the fastest thing it doesn't have to [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► act [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► sport these things you know at at the [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► drop of a hat but can i edit audio [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► without it stuttering can adjust handle [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► all of this stuff and it handled it [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► completely fine and i was looking at [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► some of the cpu numbers on it about like [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► how powerful is this compared to [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► previous computers that i own and while [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► people talk about how it's super slow [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► but i also look back at some of the old [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► computers i own and realize yes but I [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► you know I've made videos on computers [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► that were way slower than this thing [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► currently it yes it did just get a lot [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► better for the record like a lot of the [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► complaints about it it's [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► underperformance when it was originally [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► released [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► yeah and and the new one is is better [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► but it's you know something like twenty [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► percent better in a yeah it's it's it's [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► still it's still not like a [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► top-of-the-line computing machine it's [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► not that but as always with thinking [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► about work right and thinking about the [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► way that we're doing stuff but like what [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► I'm always trying to look for is what is [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► the appropriate tool for the task at [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► hand and this machine really seemed to [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► just fit perfectly as an appropriate [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► tool for the task at hand because i was [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► looking at my brick of obligation my [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► 15-inch 30-pound macbook pro and I [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► thought I will not bring you any where [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► machine right especially with the [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► knowledge that like what I'm doing [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► tonight today that over the course of [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► the summer the number of times i'm going [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► to need an open this machine is maybe [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► once or twice a week like I do not want [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► to have to bring this incredible heavy [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► bulky big thing in what I'm trying to [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► make like the smallest lightest possible [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► suitcase that i can bring with me [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► everywhere that i go like I want to [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► maximize for travel pneus and this [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► machine has adequate power to do the [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► things that I needed to do and if it if [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► I have to let it run for half an hour to [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► export an episode of a podcast because [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► it doesn't do it super fast it doesn't [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► matter you know AI can just let it run [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► all that matters is what i'm using it [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► doesn't stutter and and it seemed to it [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► seem to be the case and even some of the [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► complaints that people had about this [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► computer about [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► like the the keyboard and while I don't [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► love the keyboard it doesn't matter [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► because you don't write on it exactly [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► doing podcasting or if I'm doing a [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► little bit of animating or illustrating [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► i'm not using the keyboard right that's [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► like I have I brought my Amex wireless [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► mouse with me to use an input devices [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► like I'm not gonna use the keyboard the [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► keyboard for my work is just a row of [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► buttons that happened to do things if [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► i'm going to type something i'm going to [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► take out my lovely ipad pro and i'm [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► going to write something on that because [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► i love that keyboard and like and that [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► thing is absolutely fantastic [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► so even though it seemed kind of strange [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► i came to the conclusion that this pair [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► of machines my big ipad and now a tiny [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► little adorable macbook is actually a [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► fantastic working pair for me if I'm [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► going to be doing a lot of travel and [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► and I've just you know was just setting [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► it up and just playing around with a [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► little bit and so far it's like this is [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► great like this this thing seems like [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► it's it's it's well suited to the task [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► and i just i absolutely love how small [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► is so I so far i'm a big fan big fan of [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► the macbook adorables I've gotten close [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► to doing this exact thing multiple times [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► for the exact same reasons that i am [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► about to go on a trip and I'm going to [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► be taking my macbook pro with me in case [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► of podcast editing emergencies and I [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► couldn't be less happy about this [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► scenario [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► yeah because I'm taking my 9.7 inch iPad [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► pro and this like huge honkin piece of [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► metal with me which feels like a [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► comparatively it weighs a million pounds [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► it really died because i wouldn't even [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► know why i pad was in my bag it really [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► does [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► so I have considered this for the same [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► reason of like honestly now i only use a [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► mac book when i travel for podcast [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► editing so really I need a computer that [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► is more suited to that exact ask so thin [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► and light is exactly what I'm looking [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► for five held off on the macbook I was [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► gonna get one [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► I thought to myself when they were [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► revved so the one usual [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► so it'd be a bit more powerful but now [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► there are like rumors on the horizon at [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► the new macbook pro mhm and basically if [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► that is much thinner a much lighter than [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► what I've currently got it's gonna be an [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► improvement [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► even if it's not the thinnest and [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► lightest right and it will also have the [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► power that I'm used to so I'm gonna wait [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► to see what that looks like but I'm [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► considering doing the same thing because [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► I think if anybody can draw some kind of [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► like overall feeling that me and you [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► both have and you know people say that I [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► seem to agree of you a lot [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► it's because i'm super reasonable that's [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► what of course i think if we just think [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► about some things in the same way and [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► one of those things that mean you really [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► seem to agree on a lot is having the [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► right tool for the right job [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► yeah and the macro that I have right now [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► is not the right tool for the right job [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► because it is big and heavy because it's [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► powerful right it has the maximum power [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► but I don't need maximum power I need [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► maximum portability now right because [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► i'm only using this machine when I am [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► away from home so I need the best [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► machine for traveling so if the new [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► macbook pro too thin and light macbook [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► pro isn't thin enough and light enough [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► then i will go the macbook route what [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► you say there it makes me think of of [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► the sunk cost fallacy of where people [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► overvalue investments that they have [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► made in the past for thing that they are [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► working on when thinking about decisions [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► today and so that the like the way you [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► think about it is you and I have each in [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► the past bought macbook pros because i [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► got mine two summers ago when i was when [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► i was looking at a similar thing like i [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► am going to be away for the summer but [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► my work was also relatively different [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► than I was planning on doing a [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► significant amount of work it's like [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► okay well this machine is the best [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► machine at that time to to get i'm going [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► to be working on a bunch of going to [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► doing a bunch of animating i got was [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► using it as a primary production machine [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► back then it was like okay so i got that [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► whatever was two years ago i think and i [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► own that machine and so in some ways it [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► feels foolish to just get another tiny [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► laptop but it's it's a case of sunk cost [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► fallacy [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► see if I didn't own that macbook pro and [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► I was standing in an apple store laptop [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► 'less and looking around and thinking [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► what is the best computer for me to take [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► with me this summer [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► there's no way i would pick that macbook [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► pro it wouldn't even it wouldn't even be [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► in the running as a possible machine to [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► take and that's an example like trying [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► to to reframe decision-making in the [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► context of now and like whatever that [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► what are the resources available now [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► what are the requirements for what you [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► need now what is the best solution to [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► solve this problem now [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► like don't get don't get distracted by [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► the sunk cost fallacy like oh I used to [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► do things this way right or I happen to [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► have this this equipment currently as I [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► know what is the solution now that is [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► the optimal solution for this problem [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► and as you mentioned i think night it [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► just occurred to me but maybe one of the [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► reasons why people are no seams on [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► Twitter to have a surprising amount of [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► reaction to to be posting this was like [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► was as you said this is what we're [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► recording this probably literally days [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► before Apple might be announcing new [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► macbook pros like it seems very likely [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► that they're going to announce new [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► macbook pros at WWDC and it vaguely [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► crossed my mind but but that was also a [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► case of well if they announce new [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► macbooks that that still doesn't that [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► doesn't help me this summer right he [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► even if I could literally go to WWDC and [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► Tim Cook was handing out macbook pros to [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► everybody and it's like I'm gonna fly to [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► WWDC like it is going to hand me a [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► macbook pro right like even if i could [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► get macbook pros on day one it doesn't [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► change the fact that well there's some [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► things that I need to do before their [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► announcement right it's just like well I [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► i need a computer now for things that [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► happened this week and if i bring my [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► macbook pro that means i'm traveling [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► with this macbook pro for at least five [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► weeks before i come to a break we could [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► like swap over machines that's not going [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► to happen it's not gonna happen so it's [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► yeah I think you're right it is it is a [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► case of trying [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► you think about what is what is the best [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► tool for the job available and even [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► though it's like it's a funny little [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► machine and there's a bunch of [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► complaints about it I'd I think it I [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► think it is is the best solution for me [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► right now and also thinking about the [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► future of my work you know we talked a [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► lot about how we have both been [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► transitioning to ipad pros and doing [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► more and more of our work on there and [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► I've been thinking about that a lot but [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► the one thing that I wonder you know [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► even a year or two from now that I might [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► not ever be able to get away from is [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► doing podcasting on a mac for a variety [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► of reasons like I'm very curious to see [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► if that's a thing that I can ever get [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► rid of and i'm not super convinced that [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► that I will be able to do that and and [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► so I i wonder if this is just going to [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► end up being my new working solution for [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► a very long time in the same way that I [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► used to have a mac desktop and a laptop [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► that I would work with that now my my [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► default computer setup will be the [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► biggest ipad i can bring with me and the [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► smallest mac that i can bring with me [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► and now this is just for the next couple [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► of years maybe the default traveling [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► situation I wonder this whole scenario [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► is one of the best and worst things [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► about doing the type of work that we do [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► which is creating things that are part [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► of the internet because what happens is [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► you end up moving with the times and as [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► computers become more powerful the type [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► of work that we do on them becomes more [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► complex so you end up in a scenario [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► where your workflows are changing and [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► the tools are changing around you so you [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► buy new ones and you adapt and you [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► change which is why we spend so much [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► money on this stuff but it's because we [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► both see it as a necessary thing to get [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► the work done in the best fastest most [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► productive way the interesting and the [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► difficult part about being self-employed [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► it is getting good just talking about [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► you know getting this machine it relates [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► to a bunch of our conversations in the [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► past about how when you are on your own [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► and when it is just you you are [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► responsible for building the environment [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► around you right and and and that [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► environment is his things like what are [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► the email clients that you're using for [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► example right or how do you arrange your [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► calendar or how do you think about [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► routines or what are the tools that your [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► you're using because there there's [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► nobody else who's saying welcome to [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► giant corporate co enjoy using outlook [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► express forever and that's just not a [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► decision that you make [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► it's like every every tiny bit about the [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► working world and the environment that [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► you are operating in is under your [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► control which is amazing but it is also [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► your responsibility and obligation to [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► continually reevaluate as part of your [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► job [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► I think it's really interesting that [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► there's this phenomenon I don't have a [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► better way to describe it it's how i [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► noticed that things can become invisible [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► to people like things that are just [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► either the way they do stuff or objects [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► in their environment it's like if you're [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► for example like with this laptop of [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► them of having an old macbook pro is [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► like the macbook pro can in a way become [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► an invisible thing that you just don't [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► think about or you just don't really you [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► ate and I feel that way about routines [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► and about all kinds of tools that it is [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► in the course of human life right it is [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► it is just valuable to consciously cast [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► the eye of your mind and the the focus [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► of your attention on all of the aspects [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► of your life because these things just [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► become invisible and they become normal [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► and you don't really value ate them and [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► you don't think if I was starting a new [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► hey is this the way that I would set up [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► things like is the way that I'm [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► currently doing things now the most [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► effective way to work [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► it's it's just very very useful to [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► consciously refocus your mind on these [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► things from time to time and it's it is [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► not easy to do again it's not easy to do [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► but I i think it is a useful endeavor [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► and it's partly why you when i do this [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► show together and we know we talked for [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► many hours about in some sense seemingly [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► minor decisions about which which tool [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► is the best under under which [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► circumstances but it's because we we are [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► both aware of this thing of like rethink [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► your environment rethink your tools we [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► think the way that you do things and [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► just look about for if there is a better [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► way to do what you are currently doing [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► I think it's like we work a Jason to an [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► industry that is constantly moving and [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► evolving then that's true it's very [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► beneficial for us to remain nimble and [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► be willing to adapt and change so we're [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► actually able to look at and and and [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► work within and around the industry that [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► we're focused on em at least that's what [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► I tell myself when I'm spending 500 [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► pounds in the app store whatever you [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► gotta do man whatever you got to do i do [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► have one thing to say Mike about this [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► macbook adorable so we calling about [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► well it's adorable it is it is like the [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► you know but it's like I just it's so [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► funny because I just keep thinking like [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► look at this big powerful like ipad pro [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► it's such a beast like it's an immediate [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► work with young and then and the next [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► was like I look at that adorable little [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► mac i look at that little guy yeah [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► that's how I feel about my 9.7 inch ipad [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► i have more feelings towards it because [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► he's so little [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► right there and lie tangent here but i [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► remember reading years ago that this is [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► an actual human cognitive bias that [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► humans are more forgiving of problems [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► with objects that are smaller than [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► objects that are bigger just in [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► Adam and objects so that if they think [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► that is a smaller physical object [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► doesn't work perfectly humans are much [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► more likely to forgive it in a big [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► object that doesn't work perfectly so [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► but it's like I can feel this bias and [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► looking at these two devices like hey [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► little guy hey little mac you up for [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► recording a podcast stay like can you do [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► this like let's give it go like let's [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► give it a try right whereas if I was [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► trying to do something on the ipad pro [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► the big one it didn't work if you like [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► you need to do this right every time [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► buddy like c'mon were all lying on you [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► hear you know it's like this is not an [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► appropriate feeling for inanimate object [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► but it's totally is so along those lines [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► of hey buddy are you up for the podcast [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► today the thing that did not occur to me [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► as I was setting up the macbook adorable [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► just this morning [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► finishing before we started is that it [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► does only have one port and how one port [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► is connected to my microphone and we are [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► rapidly running to the battery on my [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► never fully charged macbook adorable so [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► little [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► will we get to the end of the show [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► before my battery runs out [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► stay tuned to find out we have [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► sufficient time it'll it'll give me a [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► warning you no don't you worry buddy [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► let's just keep going let's keep going [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► what's next on your list Mike you can [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► hear it in your voice [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► well now haha it's not to worry about [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► now that I just don't think about it was [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► next [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► this episode of cortex is brought to you [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► by igloo the internet you'll actually [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► like with a glue you don't have to be [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► stuck in your desk to do your work you [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► can manage your task list from your [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► laptop during a meeting share status [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► updates from your phone as you're [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► leaving the client site and access the [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► latest version of a file from home these [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► days everything is mobile and your work [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► should be too [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► now you're probably listening to the [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► sound of my voice possibly at work and [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► probably while using a terrible terrible [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► internet igloo is not like that igloo [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► allows you to make an Internet feel like [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► a place that you actually want to get [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► work done [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► it's surprisingly configurable and you [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► can completely rebrand it to give the [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► look and feel of you [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► for team and as an internet it's not [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► separated from the outside world [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► igloo also integrates with services like [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► box Google Drive and Dropbox if your [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► company right now with an internet that [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► you just cannot stand to use you want to [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► go find whoever is in charge of making [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► this decision and tell them about a glue [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► and when you do tell them to sign up at [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► Wrigley software.com / cortex so blue [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► knows where you came from [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► it's time to escape that internet that [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► you hate go to a glue right now and you [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► can use it for free for any team of up [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► to 10 people as long as you like a glue [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► software.com / cortex and thanks so much [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► to a glue for sporting cortex and all of [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► real afm you recently put out a new [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► video which was a kind of different [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► style different kind of even from a [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► business perspective type of a crossover [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► video with in a nutshell cuz that curves [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► cuts because that we talked a longtime [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► listeners war remember me and you try to [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► pronounce this channel quite some time [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► ago and you put together a video about [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► the left brain right brain which people [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► should go and definitely watch but [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► rather than talking about the video [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► itself [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► I'm interested in why and how this came [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► about this like kind of a two-part [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► crossover video so I Philip who is the [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► main writer behind courts because that [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► he and I have been some colleagues in [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► business associates for awhile i don't [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► remember exactly how we met in in the [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► first place but don't worry we've known [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► each other for maybe about a [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► year-and-a-half at this point and we had [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► always just vaguely talked about doing [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► some kind of collaboration that at some [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► stage and and like with I think with [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► many YouTube creators you don't [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► necessarily know what it is that you [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► want to do but it's it's useful just to [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► have it in the back of your mind about [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► is is there an interesting thing that we [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► can do and so every once in a while we [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► would just talk and sort of discuss [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► projects that we were working on [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► sometimes because we were trying to make [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► sure we didn't accidentally overlap with [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► each other [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► which did occur sometimes of like one or [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► the other of us trying to avoid a topic [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► because we knew that the other one was [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► doing it like we don't want to get [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► messed up with that of you know [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► releasing a video the day after on the [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► same thing but it's at some point we [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► eventually came across these two topics [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► one of which is about how your mind may [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► be composed of these separate autonomous [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► smaller elements and then he was [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► thinking about a video about how your [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► physical body is composed of these [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► separatists onimous smaller elements [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► that like exist in and of themselves and [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► as we were talking about it we realized [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► oh this is actually this is nice like [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► these are related like there are two [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► sides of the same coin that they both [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► are touching on the notion of how you as [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► a person are not as singular as you [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► think you are you are a combination of a [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► bunch of smaller things that can exist [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► independently of what you think of is [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► you and so we were talking about this [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► and thought of this this is nice like [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► this this works very well together and [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► so this was actually we looked up the [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► first conversations about this were back [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► in November home early and so just to [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► give people the timeframe the final [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► videos were uploaded at the end of may [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► and we were working on those videos for [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► that length of time you know doing other [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► projects at the same time but this was [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► in the works and these things can [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► sometimes take quite a long time to go [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► from initial discussion to final final [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► completed output i think from the style [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► of your videos for very different [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► reasons [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► ok that's why do you say that uh there [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► is a level of animation in the courses [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► that videos which is a very different to [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► yours you know [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► oh yeah and I think that you are one man [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► band mom and I believe there are [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► multiple people that work on the couch [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► because that videos [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► yeah there's a big team that works on [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► those things out there and and ungodly [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► amount of human hours goes into the [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► development [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► of those videos and it certainly shows [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► in the animation i was watching the [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► videos and they're like these parts [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► where they create these like mythical [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► beasts as it were that there are these [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► the good part animal part robotic pieces [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► i guess and the amount of tiny detail of [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► movement mom I just can't believe it I [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► cannot believe how this stuff exists on [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► youtube it doesn't make sense in my [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► brain [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► who the caller is insane and that's what [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► means that the differences [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► there's a team who make incredibly [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► complex things and initials you who's [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► making things that are difficult to make [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► for just one person right and that was [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► my ends up taking even though they're [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► very different the same amount of time [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► yeah that that's exactly like that the [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► the courses that path was a much [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► straighter line than was the when there [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► was the production of mine because as a [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► slight behind-the-scenes thing it was at [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► some point in very late februari i took [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► the script that I had been working on [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► for that whole length of time so from [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► november until late februari and I was [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► walking around and I was thinking about [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► the video and then it crossed my mind [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► about how to do the thing that I [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► eventually did which was to film it from [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► a first-person perspective as a way to [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► try to explain some of the complicated [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► things that are going on and once that [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► idea came into my head I thought oh this [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► is a really great way to explain this [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► phenomenon that is otherwise difficult [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► to explain but if i'm going to film [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► myself doing these things i need to [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► throw out everything that I've written [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► so far this this whole script just does [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► not work at all in this is the way that [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► I'm going to explain this and so I [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► started over right i started brand-new [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► over i essentially halfway through the [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► collaboration between the two of us [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► because like nope this script won't work [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► if i do it this way [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► start again select all delete and start [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► typing this is a superb Atlantic [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► question but not have a good reason for [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► it he didn't really saw over again [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► though did you like I know what you mean [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► but all of the work that you've done to [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► that point was useful [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► helping you create the final product [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► faster yeah that is true right i mean [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► like if you would have had this idea in [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► November it may have still taken you [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► that amount of time to make it you you [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► are totally right and look for example I [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► didn't have to redo the research exactly [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► that doesn't that doesn't occur [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► the reason I say just like I'm starting [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► over is because as we have discussed [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► before that my writing process is really [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► very largely and editing and re-editing [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► process and so that that that's the [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► thing that I mean like I know that even [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► if I'm thinking about doing it this way [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► i have to do just a ton of drafts before [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► it it becomes a thing [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► yeah it is basically new text file kind [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► of start over right yeah and it was [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► really interesting because again in in [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► working with Philip you know he saw some [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► of the drafts you know we were we reach [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► commenting on the other person's [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► scripting try to help each other along [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► but he he saw unfold the thing which i [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► always feel when i'm working but I [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► thought oh maybe I'm kidding myself [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► about how basically like this basically [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► have my script is not very good for the [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► first 15 or 20 drafts and then it is the [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► last one or two drafts where suddenly I [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► feel like this is the thing all of a [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► sudden and now what is good and it was [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► interesting to kind of get that [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► confirmed from somebody back of like boy [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► what did you do between this draft in [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► the last draft because suddenly this [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► really feels like a thing and the [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► previous ones all felt like they were [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► kind of rough like you know you could [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► film it and it would be fine but it's [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► not really fantastic when do you start [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► reading them aloud I start reading them [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► aloud when there is something to read [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► aloud so I usually end up writing [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► depending on depending on the script [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► something like 5,000 words of garbage [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► let's say I've just like thoughts of how [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► to explain stuff and that's that's just [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► largely typing and i end up with that [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► with that big text file and then that is [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► the point where I just start reading [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► those notes allowed in in my office [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► I you know with my standing desk the [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► Thunder and that's right and the Thunder [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► I was actually you put this you put this [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► idea in my mind I can't get rid of about [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► being like you know in some sort of evil [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► lair because the end when i was working [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► on this at one point I really i saw [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► myself like through your eyes as though [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► you would be standing there like oh this [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► is slightly uncomfortable like I'm [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► standing in a room i am reading out loud [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► a script that has to do with horrific [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► brain surgery that's been done to people [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► right I'm making gestures with my hands [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► about how I think this is going to go on [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► the screen as i am reading out loud as i [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► am playing Thunder sounds and I was also [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► playing like this [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► classical violin album amok recordings [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► number is like for a moment is like I [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► see what I must look like to Mike and [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► this it is let me talk about your braids [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► that's there's someone inside you what I [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► am still yeah like I'm hoping my hand [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► like this is this music and the Thunder [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► like maybe mike has a point anything [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► like as a point about what you said you [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► know I can't imagine someone wants to [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► just come in to check something right [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► they just opened the door just to peek [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► in you know to say i don't know all this [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► cake in the lobby and I just like back [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► away maybe that happens if I don't know [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► cuz ya i basically I wondered if like [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► there is a correlation between you [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► reading what you have allowed and the [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► script getting good [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► yeah it but I do i would say easily more [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► than half of the drafts are done in this [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► semi allowed stage or completely allowed [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► to take much and it's but it's like I [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► don't know what it is but I can just [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► feel towards the end when something [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► finally clicks of like this this is the [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► rhythm like this is the exact way the [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► surprising thing that often happens is [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► like the very last draft i will [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► radically move around a bunch of [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► paragraphs the paragraphs might not [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► change but I'll suddenly realized like [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► oh these are all in the wrong order [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► why on earth was i ever writing them in [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► this order like I've been writing them [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► in this order for months this doesn't [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► make any sense [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► this one has to [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► with the beginning not the end these two [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► have to go together this one in the [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► middle i can just take this whole thing [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► out and it's like boom suddenly it just [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► kind of gels I understand that because [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► you know every now and then I will have [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► some kind of flash of an idea when [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► editing show em like oh I could put the [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► girl from ipanema in here [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► mhm you know it's like this is a great [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► like I get it it's like you just have [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► these like random flashes of of ideas [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► and then everything just starts to fall [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► into place [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► yeah it and the having someone else see [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► the drafts as i was doing them it was it [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► was just interesting to have it [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► confirmed back to me that it's not in my [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► imagination that this thing is occurring [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► somebody else sees it and somebody else [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► comments that suddenly it's way better [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► and I don't know why it's like yes [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► that's right perfect like great now it's [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► ready to go [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► I thought it was ready to go and you [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► agree that this final thing is suddenly [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► much better I am NOT I am NOT crazy like [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► I'm not imagining that it takes this [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► long like someone else sees that I do [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► need to go through all of these [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► revisions before it becomes the final [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► thing that I'm ready and happy to record [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► there's an interesting process [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► considering the changes that you're [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► currently embarking on in your [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► production process [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► mm what did it feel like to work so [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► closely with someone [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► well with it was just it was interesting [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► to have the the feedback back and forth [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► on on what we were doing [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► yeah i would say like this this was in [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► the YouTube world people talk about [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► collaborations right doing collaboration [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► videos all the time and I didn't use [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► that word for what we were doing i kept [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► using the word crossover the like what [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► we're doing here is like a crossover [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► video [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► yes we weren't deeply collaborating and [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► that's what made that word feel like the [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► wrong word like I was not popping up in [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► the middle of the courts because that [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► video being like hey well you want [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► narrating that one or something yeah [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► like it we weren't doing those reverse [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► kind of things personally I think those [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► things are very hard to do [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► I've seen a few that are absolutely [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► amazing and I will always hold up the [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► destined from smarter every day and [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► Derek [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► veritasium they did crossover video on [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► the Coriolis effect that i think i will [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► forever hold up as the most the most [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► amazing example of collaborating with [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► another person like they they did two [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► videos that each really depends on the [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► other one they did this fantastic thing [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► with the timing of the videos it's [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► really quite an achievement what they [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► did like that is an amazing [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► collaboration video but lots of [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► collaboration videos i sometimes feel [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► like people are just in somebody else's [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► video just to be there and when I watch [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► them feel like is this adding or is this [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► like is like a little jarring moment but [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► if the feeling suddenly changes and so [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► we didn't think that this topic lent [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► itself to true collaboration and so [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► that's why I was always using the word [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► crossover of at the end we are crossing [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► over that each topic forms a nice little [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► circle of this one leads into that one [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► and that one leads into this one so it [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► makes sense for each of us to point to [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► the other at the end and so I think it [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► it was interesting to do it's always [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► stressful trying to time something with [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► another person as well especially [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► because we have vastly different [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► production cycles and and it's like okay [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► well we have to release on the same day [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► but like how long is it going to take [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► for all his animation to happen [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► how long is it gonna take me to come to [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► the end of creating the the scripts like [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► who knows who knows how long it's going [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► to take it when you're trying to [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► coordinate with someone that stuff is [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► quite stressful and then of course [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► because i am the person that I am I [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► start immediately worrying like somebody [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► else is working on split-brain video [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► right now we're going to upload the day [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► before and all of that stuff is ya [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► titles high-stakes but it seems to have [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► paid off the videos are doing very well [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► I think they're they're helping each [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► other so I definitely worth it [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► the main reason that people do these [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► types of things is to guess point people [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► to other channels right like I think [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► that's why the business reason for doing [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► this type of stuff [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► oh yeah did you find that to be [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► beneficial did the work that you did [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► together that payoff business-wise this [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► this kind of thing is is very good and [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► it is also one of those cases where [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► her as we have talked about before in [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► some ways I'm i am this very like [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► spreadsheet oriented return on [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► investments person and I should be doing [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► crossover collaboration videos all the [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► time write like this the spreadsheet [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► said she would say like do this every [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► single time but i only want to do it [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► when it feels like it's it's a good [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► topic again it and it totally works to [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► do but you can build a pretty successful [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► YouTube career by intensely [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► collaborating with literally everybody [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► who will do collaborations with you and [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► and you can see that as a kind of career [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► paths on on youtube sometimes but I'm [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► just pulling up the numbers here and so [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► forth for people who want to know in [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► terms of success metrics and subscriber [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► numbers in the 48 hours after the video [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► went up we each gained about 80,000 [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► additional subscribers is no joke [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► yeah it's a big number it's a big number [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► of subscribers also limey that videos [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► done well looking at a few numbers [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► whoa holy moly yet wow that's this is a [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► big success one [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► yeah it's it's it's done it's done very [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► well I think you'll find its holy moly [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► well clearly i made that very clear I [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► haven't looked at in awhile what is it [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► up to them a 2.4 million pretty good [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► pretty good pretty good [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► yeah I was gonna say for comparison for [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► the listeners so they have a sense of [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► scale on a on a normal nothing happens [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► cgpgrey hasn't uploaded a video in six [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► months or something at six months haha [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► one day will be six months yet one day [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► will be six months hasn't uploaded a [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► video in in six weeks kind of thing a [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► normal day is like a thousand [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► subscribers somewhere in that ballpark [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► ok so this this puts it you know sort of [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► again ballparking it's kind of an order [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► of magnitude larger roughly sort of so [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► it'sit's business-wise like this this [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► kind of thing is very good to do I [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► should in theory do it way more than I [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► but again just just the way my working [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► cycle is and and also my my own quite [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► laggy and long production cycles like it [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► does make it hard for other people to [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► work with me and it's one of the reasons [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► why Phillip and I could collaborate [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► quite easily because he also has the [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► same kind of like a very long very laggy [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► production cycles so we each know very [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► well understand we are talking in [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► November it might be almost half a year [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► until this thing is actually done it up [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► and that's okay [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► 21 for millions of views yeah a lot of [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► people watching a video with my hands [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► moving stuff around while I feel later [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► it's a little weird to think sometimes [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► yeah it's a little weird to think like I [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► went to toys r us [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► yeah I ball kylo Ren mosque ya got some [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► My Little Ponies got some Rubik's cubes [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► and some blocks for babies and put it on [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► my business card at the guy the [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► toys-r-us was like these for you like [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► now it's a business expense [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► I don't think he believed me well [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► because what business is that so [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► however that I like I think this could [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► see in his eyes like a little bit of [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► doubt and I was like why don't you [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► believe me have a walking away it's like [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► of course he has no reason to believe me [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► that i need some blocks for babies for [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► business expense [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► why would you even ask someone that [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► question like you know how many people [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► goes and go into toys r us and buy [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► things for children like isn't that the [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► whole purpose of the store [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► what a strange thing to ask and I don't [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► know I don't know why clerks always ask [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► stuff from stores and you probably had a [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► weird look on your face right thank you [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► anyway you knew you shouldn't be there [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► buying those things and he could tell is [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► that what you think it was [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► that's what I think it was that why [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► clerks always talk to me everywhere I go [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► because I have a weird look at my face [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► is that what you're saying you know like [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► the idea that magicians when they're [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► pulling somebody out of the audience [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► they pull the person who looks the most [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► awkward right like they can just tell [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► like I'm going to get this person [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► because they clearly don't want to do [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► this I expect that that's the kind of [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► face that you have when you're [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► interacting with anybody in a retail [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► environment so people just instinctively [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► want to ask [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► questions because you look like you [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► don't want to be there hmm maybe maybe [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► that's why that's my experience [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► everywhere I go people want to talk to [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► me about things to work on that poker [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► face [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► yeah but if I'm ever in a magic show I [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► always do my best to give the the guy on [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► stage like a death stare like I will [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► look right into his eyes and lingual and [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► I'm thinking thoughts like you don't [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► want to pick me but I don't like looking [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► right at him just like blank face [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► I am NOT your person i figured that's [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► like the fastest way to communicate at [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► every now and then you say something [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► that like the phrase is funny to me and [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► this time was every time i'm at a magic [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► haha how often how often this is what [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► you're secretly in the Magic Circle [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► nobody knew I don't ever just thinking [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► like a soft Penn & Teller oh I've wanted [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► to do that in vegas i saw them when they [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► were in in London a little while ago [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► that was probably the last magic show [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► that i was at i would love to see [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► panatela yeah but I'm also i'm also [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► thinking of like circus Olay shows and [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► things like that like they're all just [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► the same kind of like someone is getting [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► pulled on stage like it all in my brain [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► it's all filed under like magic show [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► right when they're pulling someone on [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► the stage like this is what this is [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► even if its clowns at circus Olay or [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► whatever you call them clowns [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► I don't think clouds that I would know [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► circus Olay has the clowns they always [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► have clowns did I seen these shows yet i [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► don't like clowns and I've never been so [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► closely [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► okay well don't go that's my [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► recommendation if you don't like clowns [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► don't go I'm not going I don't like the [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► clouds either but it's the same thing of [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► like I want to make them feel like don't [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► think anybody on the weirdo in the [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► audience is looking right at you with [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► the dead deadpan face like I'm trying to [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► signal that i am not the person you're [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► gonna have a fun time with you picking i [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► will be the most resistant exactly swear [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► to God I will that I want a signal like [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► I will be lots of trouble and no fun for [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► you look elsewhere look elsewhere [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► I could push stuff over today's episode [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► of cortex is brought to you by Casper a [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► company focused on sleep Casper has [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► created the perfect mattress that it [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► sells directly to you the customer [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► eliminating Commission driven inflated [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► prices by cutting the cost of dealing [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► with resellers and showrooms they can [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► make their mattresses extremely [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► affordable and with excellent quality in [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► fact award-winning quality the mattress [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► was developed in-house it has a sleek [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► design and is delivered in an impossibly [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► small box so you can very easily get [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► that mattress from the door to the [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► bedroom i mentioned award-winning time [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► magazine named it one of the best [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► inventions of 2015 the castle mattress [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► combines springy latex and supportive [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► memory foam to create a mattress that [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► has just the right sink and just the [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► right balance plus it's breathable [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► design helps you regulate your [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► temperature throughout the night [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► in addition to the castle mattress [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► caspar now offers an adaptive pillow and [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► soft breathable sheets as well typically [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► mattresses can cost well over fifteen [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► hundred dollars but cancer mattresses [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► cost just five hundred dollars for twin [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► size 604 twin XL 754 full-size 854 a [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► queen-size mattress and 950 american [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► dollars for a king [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► I mentioned America casper mattresses [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► are made in America to buying casper [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► mattresses completely risk-free they [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► offer free delivery of free returns to [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► the US and canada with a 100 night home [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► trial if you don't love it they will [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► pick it up and refund everything [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► Casper understands the importance of [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► truly sleeping and trying a mattress out [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► properly before you commit to it [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► especially because you're going to be [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► spending a third of your life on it [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► which is why they have created this free [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► delivery and free return window so you [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► can fully get the experience of a Casper [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► mattress before you decide to let it [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► live in your home you can get fifty [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► dollars towards any mattress purchase by [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► visiting Casper dot-coms flash cortex [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► and using the code cortex at checkout [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► terms and conditions apply [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► thank you so much to Casper for their [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► continued support of this very program [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► so your favorite ever email ab Unimogs [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► has recognized the cortex love [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► yes yes i saw this morning I think that [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► you need box put up a very nice little [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► post saying that they are [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► heard us talking about the app on the [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► show and I really like that they did is [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► they took the time to write out a few [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► things discussing some of the the points [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► that we brought up and showing like a [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► few extra tips and tricks for those of [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► you in the audience who are joining me [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► in the Uni box way for the endless wheel [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► of email [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► basically they did a better job of [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► explaining it then we did as they should [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► but yeah there's the sum of the things [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► that you were trying to help me with [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► they do a much better job of explaining [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► yeah reading reading through their [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► article i was thinking oh that's why [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► Mike and I had such a different [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► experience when we set up our apps like [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► I just happened to press a button and I [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► didn't even remember didn't even think [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► about it that there's one thing there's [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► one thing in there that i really like [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► which which I was just looking at like [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► oh this this totally makes sense is I [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► was talking about being able to swipe on [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► just messaged subjects when we were [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► having the conversation you were like [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► that's really weird and confusing ahead [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► and they were very nicely took the time [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► to say you can sleep anywhere on the [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► message right you don't have to swipe on [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► this one little narrow strip and so I [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► actually just installed on my phone just [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► to try and like oh wow I don't use email [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► on my phone but if you are an email on [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► your phone person this you can swipe [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► anywhere on the message anywhere on the [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► screen and perform a couple of actions [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► on on the message like boy that would be [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► amazing if I was an email on the phone [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► guy this is a fantastic feature so i [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► would say thanks thanks to the team for [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► writing up some additional information [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► that we missed in our attempt to try and [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► explain the app thankfully they were [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► there to help [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► yes hey great you know what time it is [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► it is 118 in the afternoon as we are [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► recording this [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► now that's correct that's the answer I [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► was looking for that what you're looking [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► for [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► yep moving on this great blouse cortex [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► okay great [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► Magnus wrote in gray and Magnus wanted [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► to ask how does one handle to-do items [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► that are dependent on another person in [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► order to be completed so [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► Magnus hit with his job a large part of [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► it is gathering information from people [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► that are not necessarily directly [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► incentivize to get the info [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► incentivize to get the info [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► nation for him all Magnus Magnus I i [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► love the way you describe that and boy [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► have I been there was gonna say this [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► sounds like you've got some some [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► camaraderie here like yeah and Magnus [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► goes on to say that they're not [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► necessarily directly incentivized to [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► give the information which means that [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► deadlines don't exist of these people so [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► how do we handle to-do items that are [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► dependent on other people whether [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► they're incentivized or not so we both [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► use OmniFocus and i know that a long [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► time ago great you'd mentioned using [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► vandal list and I wonder how you [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► continue to do this especially with the [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► expanding organization that is great [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► industries has that the good point [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► oh how do how do I handle this [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► um well first of all to Magnus you know [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► my sympathies go out to you because we [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► all know people are the worst [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► you can't depend on people they take [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► forever to get back to you and I include [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► myself in this crew right i think i [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► think of for Mike reaching out to me [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► sometimes sending me a message [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► it's like I get back to him later but [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► like when does later come I don't know [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► will be there it now don't say never it [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► comes eventually later comes eventually [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► so this is a problem that we all face [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► and that if we look deep into our own [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► selves we all sometimes also create I [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► mean that the short answer is high try [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► to eliminate dependencies and other [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► people as much as possible to minimize [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► this inevitable problem but when i do [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► have something something that I need to [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► keep track of like the other person [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► needs to get back to me on this thing i [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► have a context in OmniFocus that's just [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► called waiting and this is this is a [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► kind of hold over from the strict [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► getting things done implementation days [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► of yore that I used to do but i find [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► this one little thing is is quite a [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► handy of being able to mark in a project [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► like the next step is me waiting on this [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► person to get back to me about a thing [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► and that like that's just my stake in [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► the ground so that I don't forget [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► because i know that i am very likely to [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► forget that i'm waiting on another [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► person for another thing and just [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► totally lose track of it so that that's [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► that's my general catch-all for people [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► that I'm not necessarily formerly [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► working with I still with my assistant [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► we do you use Wunderlist as a as a [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► shared list to keep a record of all of [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► the various things that we are working [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► on and she really likes that app I [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► really like that app i have to say i [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► highly recommend if you are working in [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► probably a very small team i'm not sure [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► Wunderlist would scale very well to a [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► large team of people but maybe for you [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► know five or less individuals i think [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► it's a fantastic little app for keeping [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► track of who is doing what and so I can [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► assign to my assistance that is these [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► little subtasks these are your [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► responsibilities and then she can go [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► through it and also assigned subtasks to [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► me and it's very easy to see like who [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► who is who is the block in moving this [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► project forward and the answer is not [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► surprisingly always i am but at least [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► like it's clear like we know who is the [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► person that needs to get back about a [TS]

01:03:27 ◼   ► thing so I really recommend that i [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► really recommend that a lot but to the [TS]