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Cortex 30: Cortexaversary

 

  Mike Mike listen it's going at the end [TS]

  cut it now put it at the end we'll do it [TS]

  later [TS]

  do you do that a lot you talk to [TS]

  yourself a lot like that the show not [TS]

  always been just in case some coloring [TS]

  yeah let's see that could be the bumper [TS]

  now where you were just talking to [TS]

  yourself giving yourself instructions [TS]

  that's not gonna happen that could be [TS]

  the beginning of the show why not why [TS]

  don't you put it there [TS]

  haha my future Mike you need to put this [TS]

  at the start of the show we did you ever [TS]

  think this day would come [TS]

  what day is this is how cortex accessory [TS]

  though happy cortex Anniversary Mike [TS]

  every context refers treating you to a [TS]

  great everyone doing this for a year a [TS]

  year a whole year do you remember you're [TS]

  very strong commitment for ten yeah yeah [TS]

  sort of [TS]

  yeah those days those days are long gone [TS]

  now my friend [TS]

  so what is this is episode 30 30 [TS]

  yeah this is where are very peculiar [TS]

  schedule is always going to ruin the [TS]

  numbering William right but you know we [TS]

  did the first hand on a weekly basis [TS]

  right yeah yeah now i won't forget that [TS]

  I don't forget that anytime soon [TS]

  yeah that was horrific whose idea was [TS]

  that it was my idea it was your idea i [TS]

  had to be put for the fire to understand [TS]

  right like I went through a horrible [TS]

  scenario i now know the way to do this [TS]

  show is not every week is not every week [TS]

  now but yeah we made it we made it and i [TS]

  look forward to our next context of [TS]

  bursaries that's optimistic [TS]

  well I like like to live that way like [TS]

  in all seriousness it's great i wasn't [TS]

  sure if we would get this far as always [TS]

  with podcasts I just assumed that the [TS]

  end of all things to discuss is right [TS]

  around the corner every episode feels [TS]

  like oh this is probably going to be the [TS]

  last episode of any podcast ever do like [TS]

  what else can there possibly be to talk [TS]

  about but there's always more stuff to [TS]

  talk about and yeah i think this is gone [TS]

  is gone pretty well I'm pretty well [TS]

  happy cortex versuri to everyone i did [TS]

  not get you flowers [TS]

  No [TS]

  don't open that possible just so we have [TS]

  a much larger response to our [TS]

  touch-typing survey than i expected we [TS]

  would I haven't looked at any of this [TS]

  because I want to wait for the show kind [TS]

  of curious to see what you would put [TS]

  together you did give me a little [TS]

  preview [TS]

  yes some of the data and whenever that [TS]

  was 24 hours after the show went up [TS]

  there were already would seem like a [TS]

  huge number of replies so lots of people [TS]

  it seems like wanted to share their [TS]

  information about when they learned or [TS]

  did not learn to touch-type what is the [TS]

  final number of people who filled out [TS]

  the survey Mike 3944 people have given [TS]

  their submissions for the cortex [TS]

  touch-typing questionnaire which is the [TS]

  water it's a lot it's a lot and the [TS]

  reddit thread was ablaze and which ended [TS]

  up not being very useful like [TS]

  statistically because you cannot do [TS]

  anything with all of that right all you [TS]

  do is you just see the comments so i was [TS]

  really pleased that we have the [TS]

  questionnaire because we could actually [TS]

  get data which could kind of try and [TS]

  give us some answers so what I did was I [TS]

  took 2,000 responses and put them into a [TS]

  second sheet that i made public to the [TS]

  world so people could take that data and [TS]

  try and help us understand a little bit [TS]

  better because the form on its own [TS]

  didn't give me some of the answers that [TS]

  I wanted so one that once we started [TS]

  getting this data i was like maybe [TS]

  interesting if we could break some of it [TS]

  down by age right because we had the age [TS]

  question in there but i was wondering [TS]

  would it be different for older or [TS]

  younger people as to how they are such [TS]

  as to whether they were taught to touch [TS]

  type that kind of thing we got some [TS]

  fantastic responses and people doing [TS]

  really interesting things with that data [TS]

  which are going to put in the show notes [TS]

  so you can continue to play around it if [TS]

  you want to and take a look for yourself [TS]

  but i think the overall points that I [TS]

  took away from this is that it seems to [TS]

  indicate from our data are completely [TS]

  scientific data that the older you are [TS]

  the more likely you are to know [TS]

  how to touch type and also you're more [TS]

  likely to have been taught school glue [TS]

  and it also appears that the younger you [TS]

  are the more likely you are able to [TS]

  touch type on the touchscreen who that [TS]

  was i guess everyone's hypothesis right [TS]

  yeah but you never know actually never [TS]

  not data and there is a much higher [TS]

  amount of people in the younger age [TS]

  brackets that could touch type or at [TS]

  least self-identified as touch-typing [TS]

  think that's one part that you know I [TS]

  learned a few things in this like if i [TS]

  would have thought we would have had the [TS]

  size of responses that we did maybe a [TS]

  lot of ask some questions differently [TS]

  added in some other questions like you [TS]

  know what is touch thing to you think [TS]

  some people don't look at the keyboard [TS]

  but that isn't what i think of as typing [TS]

  I think of like that whole method that [TS]

  you learn in typing classes i disagree [TS]

  with you there [TS]

  I totally disagree with you if you can [TS]

  type on the keyboard without looking [TS]

  that is touch typing as far as I'm [TS]

  concerned [TS]

  yeah okay now we are I get what you mean [TS]

  like I'm just thinking like as a way to [TS]

  understand if someone was taught it or [TS]

  if they were self-taught I think because [TS]

  when I think of like touch typing like [TS]

  capitalized I think of like what how you [TS]

  are tall in a typing class right as [TS]

  opposed to like I cannot look a keyboard [TS]

  and type III think they're above [TS]

  completely valid I think they come from [TS]

  different areas and now i'm interested [TS]

  in learning of the people that know did [TS]

  they teach themselves you know that kind [TS]

  of thing though we have some of that [TS]

  like the are you learning and did you [TS]

  learn to touch type in schools that is [TS]

  still more dated i can dig into it but [TS]

  overall it was a very useful exercise [TS]

  and we all learned something [TS]

  yeah like I'm looking at some of the [TS]

  charts that friend of the show [TS]

  underscore david smith made and so for [TS]

  example on the question did does your [TS]

  school offer touch typing lessons that [TS]

  peaks for people in the age range of 51 [TS]

  260 at almost eighty percent right there [TS]

  they're saying like yes touch-typing was [TS]

  a thing that their school offers and [TS]

  then you get down to essentially zero [TS]

  221 that age bracket is about [TS]

  looks like about forty five percent on [TS]

  the chart yeah the slope follows upward [TS]

  in that direction so the older you are [TS]

  the more likely it is that you learn to [TS]

  touch-type school but the one that I [TS]

  really like is the question about can [TS]

  you touch type on the glass without [TS]

  looking [TS]

  yep and that peaks for the 17 to 21 year [TS]

  old demographic is essentially [TS]

  60-percent can type on a glass screen [TS]

  without looking which is a higher [TS]

  percentage than I would have expected [TS]

  his way higher than I would have guessed [TS]

  slightly younger is slightly less which [TS]

  is a little bit surprising but I can [TS]

  kind of see maybe why in retrospect my [TS]

  thinking would be the people in the 0 2 [TS]

  16 bracket have had less experienced [TS]

  yeah that was my thought [TS]

  afterward as well it's it's a [TS]

  combination of less experienced and [TS]

  probably less need to do a lot of typing [TS]

  yeah but it's still shockingly high at [TS]

  fifty-five percent but what love is when [TS]

  you get to the 60-plus percent the [TS]

  number who can touch-type on a glass [TS]

  screen without looking drops to exactly [TS]

  zero percent okay yeah that's it's not [TS]

  zero rounded off its exactly zero [TS]

  percent of people 60 or older so that [TS]

  they could type on glass without looking [TS]

  and the 51 260 demographic is at just [TS]

  barely six percent something that i also [TS]

  picked up from looking in the red is it [TS]

  seems like typing classes do still exist [TS]

  but mainly in America who just from [TS]

  looking at people's comments [TS]

  it seems that not a lot of people in the [TS]

  UK if any are in Europe thought touch [TS]

  type but it seems like there are still [TS]

  parts of America where it's part of the [TS]

  curriculum because it wasn't like [TS]

  presenting for everyone who had a lot of [TS]

  people saying to me like what your [TS]

  schools don't teach it so i will infer [TS]

  from that no they do not and that yours [TS]

  must do and you are in America so maybe [TS]

  there's still some of that going on [TS]

  yeah I i think this is interesting i'm [TS]

  really glad that you took the time to [TS]

  put the survey together because yes as [TS]

  you said a a large large number of [TS]

  anecdotal answers and read it is [TS]

  interesting to read through [TS]

  but it's hard to hold out more specific [TS]

  trends [TS]

  yep so this was this was great to have [TS]

  the data and the links will be in the [TS]

  show notes for people who want to play [TS]

  around with it and visualize it further [TS]

  than we have done so far today I think [TS]

  the only downside from doing this is [TS]

  that now i am survey hungry [TS]

  what do you mean now I want to do [TS]

  surveys for everything so I'm going to [TS]

  have to just try and resist myself from [TS]

  doing that [TS]

  like now I want to know everything about [TS]

  how people manage email but I won't do [TS]

  it every episode of cortex comes with a [TS]

  appropriate survey now I want to a great [TS]

  i want to but i want i think if you want [TS]

  to put in the time to to construct a [TS]

  well-done survey than that I think you [TS]

  can go surfing crazy there's nothing [TS]

  wrong with that [TS]

  I feel it should be tactically deployed [TS]

  ok good otherwise we'll have a survey [TS]

  fatigue back ok alright i can get anger [TS]

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  you so much to smile for their support [TS]

  of this show so it's time to check in on [TS]

  the hiring project [TS]

  yes how's it going I assume that now [TS]

  based on our last conversation you have [TS]

  taken a look at the submissions [TS]

  yes yes I feel like between last time we [TS]

  spoke and today we are recording it has [TS]

  been an unusually ridiculously busy time [TS]

  for me so I have less progress to report [TS]

  and i might otherwise want but i have i [TS]

  have definitely move forward on this i [TS]

  have looked at all of the applications [TS]

  and I've gone through a little bit of a [TS]

  process trying to whittle them down and [TS]

  select people to work with in the future [TS]

  how many submissions did you get all [TS]

  right what would you guess resolution [TS]

  this is a more fun game [TS]

  take a guess what do you think 176 wow [TS]

  look at you very precise guess there [TS]

  because what if I'm right the best thing [TS]

  ever right yeah that's exactly return [TS]

  not return on this this roll of the dice [TS]

  here [TS]

  you look like a psychic expect correct [TS]

  and you're almost certainly wrong anyway [TS]

  so there's no there's no downside to [TS]

  guessing exactly so here are the numbers [TS]

  at the time that we are recording the [TS]

  video has about 40,000 views so we can [TS]

  assume that 40,000 people in someway [TS]

  were exposed to the existence of this [TS]

  application and when I took a look to [TS]

  see what was in my dropbox folder which [TS]

  was about a week after the supposed [TS]

  deadline where i was going to look there [TS]

  were 75 applications we can you take a [TS]

  look at that's a really good number [TS]

  because if it would have been a lot [TS]

  higher than that one it would have been [TS]

  super hard to go through and the quality [TS]

  would have probably been an overall [TS]

  worse i would expect that you are able [TS]

  to really with it down to a more [TS]

  manageable number [TS]

  yeah and this is a bit of an estimate on [TS]

  my part but I think that the number of [TS]

  total submission that i may have gotten [TS]

  might actually be quite close to your [TS]

  guests around 150 because after the [TS]

  point at which I looked at it I just had [TS]

  a message to my assistance to anybody [TS]

  who submitted from that point on she was [TS]

  only to pass it along if it really [TS]

  struck her as something worth taking a [TS]

  look at right and I did see i did just [TS]

  look and see briefly that there were a [TS]

  bunch more submissions after that but [TS]

  none of them made it through her barrier [TS]

  ok I i wouldn't be surprised if the [TS]

  total number was 150 but the number that [TS]

  i actually looked at was 75 and this was [TS]

  like like so many moments in life it is [TS]

  really easy to overestimate how easy a [TS]

  task is until you try to do it yourself [TS]

  and so I just had a lot a lot of [TS]

  sympathy for hiring managers and HR [TS]

  people in this moment because everything [TS]

  all this is going to be [TS]

  super easy just to go through a bunch of [TS]

  applications how hard can it possibly be [TS]

  and it turns out the answer is it's a [TS]

  lot harder than you think it is going [TS]

  going through this so i ended up having [TS]

  to break it into two parts i did a first [TS]

  pass [TS]

  we're all I have all I was doing was I [TS]

  literally created a folder called [TS]

  tolerable and so my estimation there was [TS]

  all I want to do on round one is put [TS]

  anything that is tolerable or better [TS]

  into this folder because simply trying [TS]

  to watch all of the videos since some of [TS]

  them were very different in quality [TS]

  it's like it was surprisingly hard to [TS]

  make comparisons after watching three or [TS]

  four videos like your brain just gets [TS]

  really muddled up with all the details [TS]

  so I thought ok I just need to do a [TS]

  quick first pass of which ones are [TS]

  definitely out and which ones are [TS]

  definitely in so I sorted that way and [TS]

  then I thought okay once i have done [TS]

  that then I can try again to make finer [TS]

  distinctions between some of the [TS]

  applications but so that was that was [TS]

  the round one and then I did around to [TS]

  which was trying to limit it down a bit [TS]

  further but that's that's how I ended up [TS]

  doing this on my own so far [TS]

  yeah that makes sense to me because i [TS]

  think if you watch so many things in a [TS]

  row you kind of lose track of what's [TS]

  better than the one another right yeah [TS]

  like whittling it down by like can i [TS]

  watch this and it doesn't have my eyes [TS]

  is a good way of doing things right [TS]

  round one was basically identify the [TS]

  instant nose right that that was all [TS]

  over what we're trying to do because I [TS]

  realized very quickly that as you're [TS]

  watching through stuff you end up [TS]

  comparing the thing that you're [TS]

  currently watching mentally to the thing [TS]

  that you have just watched you're like [TS]

  wait a minute that's not that's not what [TS]

  this comparison should be at all [TS]

  I can't do this just all in one go in [TS]

  the way was originally intending yeah so [TS]

  it was interesting [TS]

  just again since i think that the whole [TS]

  purpose of this show is to talk like [TS]

  about the about the details of being [TS]

  self-employed and of course there's [TS]

  there's some things here that I won't be [TS]

  able to discuss because we're talking [TS]

  about actual people but [TS]

  of the 75 applications that i had 50 of [TS]

  them were sorted as instant nose and 25 [TS]

  of them were sorted as tolerable or [TS]

  better so that was the round one of the [TS]

  applications what happens next [TS]

  was that I had to give my brain a couple [TS]

  of days to filter that out into kind of [TS]

  like okay forget what you've seen and I [TS]

  need to come back to this at a later [TS]

  point so I gave it i gave it a little [TS]

  while because this is where we may [TS]

  return to it later but a whole other [TS]

  thing happened was distracted my [TS]

  attention for a little bit so this has [TS]

  gone on a bit longer than i would have [TS]

  wanted to otherwise but when i came back [TS]

  then I was trying to make a decision [TS]

  about their these 25 applications i want [TS]

  to narrow this down as much as i can [TS]

  again based solely on the animation so [TS]

  I'm still looking at all of these things [TS]

  as files with just a single numbers i [TS]

  don't know anything about the people [TS]

  don't know where they are [TS]

  I don't know their experience i'm just [TS]

  looking at the animations and the second [TS]

  round of cutting was up much harder [TS]

  thing to do but i did around to that [TS]

  took it from 25 down to 10 so that was [TS]

  the the second round of trying to figure [TS]

  out what's happening and there I was [TS]

  looking at many more finer details about [TS]

  the animations like out what what [TS]

  choices did you make to animate this or [TS]

  that some of the things that are very [TS]

  hard to articulate is for example [TS]

  watching a video is seeing did the [TS]

  person get me to laugh when I'm watching [TS]

  the video [TS]

  did this person do something that [TS]

  matches up with my sense of humor [TS]

  this is again that's not to say that the [TS]

  people that I didn't select weren't [TS]

  funny but the question is do they match [TS]

  up with the kind of joke that i might [TS]

  make in a in a [TS]

  video right like that's that's what I'm [TS]

  looking for their and so yeah it was it [TS]

  was it was against surprisingly hard to [TS]

  do but it was down to 10 then so what's [TS]

  happening now is that my assistant is [TS]

  reaching out to those 10 and collecting [TS]

  some information that i want to have [TS]

  about the applications at this point to [TS]

  be able to make some decisions about [TS]

  where to go in the future is it seeming [TS]

  like that this was the wolf wall [TS]

  experiment you were hoping it would be [TS]

  I'm feeling pretty good about how this [TS]

  has been going [TS]

  it's especially interesting to me [TS]

  because I am has your recording i am [TS]

  currently in the middle of animating my [TS]

  next video which should be out in a few [TS]

  days and of course while i am in the [TS]

  process of animating this video I can't [TS]

  help but have my mind constantly turn to [TS]

  thinking about how will this be [TS]

  different when i'm working with somebody [TS]

  else and before the application went out [TS]

  I was just really nervous and really [TS]

  concerned about the kind of quality of [TS]

  applications that i was going to get and [TS]

  now now being future me who has seen the [TS]

  applications i have to say that the [TS]

  average quality of application was much [TS]

  higher than i was expecting which to me [TS]

  was a big big relief [TS]

  ok I'm glad to see that there are lots [TS]

  of skilled people in here [TS]

  yeah and even i just i do have to say [TS]

  that for lots of the applications that i [TS]

  rejected those people could be motion [TS]

  animators like without a doubt i [TS]

  rejected people who could do this for a [TS]

  living I like just but just the average [TS]

  quality was quite high and then that's [TS]

  where it starts to come down to again [TS]

  just some of the particulars about how [TS]

  would I do something or what are the [TS]

  particular choices that they made it is [TS]

  not necessarily about that person's [TS]

  skill but it's their understanding of [TS]

  your style which is to the point i guess [TS]

  yeah exactly and the end but that that [TS]

  is what made it so hard is because there [TS]

  were definitely some applications where [TS]

  I felt like [TS]

  I want to reject this but this person is [TS]

  undoubtedly good like they're very good [TS]

  they just made decisions that I don't [TS]

  agree with for my own style and it's [TS]

  just a strange position to be in but [TS]

  overall I was very happy to see the the [TS]

  quality of the submissions and in my [TS]

  experience of animating that the video [TS]

  that I'm currently working on [TS]

  it's a huge relief to know that in the [TS]

  future i will almost certainly be [TS]

  working with someone to help make this [TS]

  process easier because I can tell I can [TS]

  tell that i am still not fully recovered [TS]

  from some of the RSI problems I had the [TS]

  last video the video prior to that like [TS]

  I am having to work in much shorter [TS]

  bursts and with larger breaks between [TS]

  verse like I can just still feel that i [TS]

  am not fully recovered from that before [TS]

  and so it's it's just I think everything [TS]

  has happened at the right time think I [TS]

  was already thinking about bringing [TS]

  people on board i had a had a thing that [TS]

  accelerated this whole process which I [TS]

  think ultimately is good and I'm looking [TS]

  at these applications and i have to say [TS]

  of of the 10 people that I'm going to [TS]

  get some more information about I think [TS]

  any of them i could imagine working with [TS]

  to produce animations in the future I i [TS]

  think that there's there are definitely [TS]

  people here that I can work with and I [TS]

  want to work with in the future [TS]

  resuming presuming that everything works [TS]

  out between us and that it's all ok we [TS]

  plan on giving feedback to the [TS]

  applicants it was a thing that crossed [TS]

  my mind because I remember when I was [TS]

  applying for a job as a teacher that the [TS]

  schools did give feedback to people if [TS]

  they didn't select you what the very [TS]

  first school I ever applied to [TS]

  I didn't realize they were offering me a [TS]

  job and I sort of talk myself out of the [TS]

  job and then I got some feedback about [TS]

  how like you seemed really uncommitted [TS]

  to the school and then I realized like [TS]

  oh I realized what was happening here [TS]

  I had this ok I have to tell you now but [TS]

  I i applied to the school which was very [TS]

  high on the list like I had a short list [TS]

  of three schools that i really want to [TS]

  work at and i applied to one of them and [TS]

  you do the whole you do a whole test [TS]

  lesson and then you talk to the head of [TS]

  department and then you talk to the head [TS]

  of the school and then presumably they [TS]

  have a little meeting about you and then [TS]

  they walk you out to the front and [TS]

  someone's talking to you and as the head [TS]

  of head of department was walking me out [TS]

  of the building he was going [TS]

  what would you say if we offered you the [TS]

  job right now and I said all I i I'd [TS]

  have to think about it I because I i [TS]

  don't i don't like to make decisions on [TS]

  the spot is like but what if what if we [TS]

  were going to offer it to you right now [TS]

  as like I would just I would just have [TS]

  to think about it and felt like I was [TS]

  just a little late it was just didn't [TS]

  realize what was occurring there and I [TS]

  remember he was like really insistent on [TS]

  this point all the way out to the front [TS]

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  about that now it's like I would just [TS]

  have to think about it and then it was a [TS]

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  telling me how it seems like i was [TS]

  uncommitted to the school and then like [TS]

  the other penny dropped like oh that's [TS]

  what was happening at that's my [TS]

  experience with feedback for applying to [TS]

  jobs no desire to have an impulse but [TS]

  enough like when i watch shark tank [TS]

  I always think when the vc's offer a [TS]

  deal and like all is it weird here's the [TS]

  deal but you have to say yes or no right [TS]

  now I'm sorry might like a policy is now [TS]

  if you if you need me to decide right [TS]

  now the answers right but this is why [TS]

  you would never go on that show [TS]

  I don't know we're never going to this [TS]

  is pointless but they get a reasonable [TS]

  policy you spend hours and hours [TS]

  preparing for it [TS]

  you going to show give your pitch they [TS]

  offer you the hundred thousand dollars [TS]

  you want to tell them you need to go [TS]

  away and think about it [TS]

  yeah it's not unreasonable but anyway [TS]

  back to the feedback questions right i [TS]

  did think about it simply because of the [TS]

  large number of applications and also [TS]

  because of how surprisingly busy my past [TS]

  two weeks were [TS]

  I realized if I was going to do this I [TS]

  would want to do it right and this was [TS]

  this would quite easily be two full days [TS]

  of work [TS]

  22 just right back with feedback on the [TS]

  applications [TS]

  what about to the final 10 so much [TS]

  smaller number these people all know [TS]

  that you're kind of interested now maybe [TS]

  they would be at least a more manageable [TS]

  tasks to give feedback to those 10 [TS]

  yeah it's a possibility it's a [TS]

  possibility but i'm not sure how much [TS]

  more specific the feedback would be at [TS]

  this stage than just some peculiar [TS]

  reasoning on my part [TS]

  sometimes that's all it takes them just [TS]

  to know so you don't question it [TS]

  yeah I guess I just again I think all of [TS]

  the all of the ten the people who by the [TS]

  time this goes up will almost certainly [TS]

  have replied they cut the email inbox [TS]

  like any of them [TS]

  I could imagine working with so it feels [TS]

  like that's isn't that feedback enough i [TS]

  don't know but yeah it's to just [TS]

  reiterate my earlier answer is I am [TS]

  feeling pretty good about this is it's [TS]

  it's going slower than i would have [TS]

  otherwise wanted but I'm feeling pretty [TS]

  good about this and that at this stage [TS]

  it's just going to come down to the [TS]

  peculiarities of working with the [TS]

  individuals or like when are people [TS]

  available and i think that this at this [TS]

  stage is going to be I think very [TS]

  particular and maybe not a whole lot to [TS]

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  sounds like a reality show now you give [TS]

  roses out the ones that you like and [TS]

  yeah maybe you don't like here wacom [TS]

  stylus is something you know [TS]

  yeah that's how they know their work of [TS]

  the ones that are through to the final [TS]

  round [TS]

  are there any in there or are they all [TS]

  kind of in a scenario where you could [TS]

  have an all-in one person and we spoke [TS]

  about that before about like someone who [TS]

  would be animator and illustrator [TS]

  is this something that you think might [TS]

  exist in these people [TS]

  yeah i would say that all of these [TS]

  people would be totally fine as animator [TS]

  illustrators and what I was kind of [TS]

  thinking from the beginning but didn't [TS]

  quite want to say is work [TS]

  collaboratively on storyboards iie if a [TS]

  person is good [TS]

  my thought is I want their feedback on a [TS]

  storyboard if i can give them a script i [TS]

  think i think a good work flow again [TS]

  this is me just speculating just [TS]

  thinking about it in the future but all [TS]

  of these people seem really good and so [TS]

  my thought is that if I have scripts one [TS]

  of the things that might be able to do [TS]

  is say look here is the script i'm going [TS]

  to do a rough storyboard you separately [TS]

  do a rough storyboard and together let's [TS]

  see what is the best thing to do right [TS]

  because those people have already done [TS]

  that [TS]

  right exactly that was the first [TS]

  challenge right was taken just the audio [TS]

  not even the script right making it even [TS]

  harder than it would be manned make [TS]

  something entertaining out of this and [TS]

  to get into that position there and now [TS]

  they have done that [TS]

  yeah so it's again it's it's a it's a [TS]

  strong group of people and all of them [TS]

  could be an animator illustrators story [TS]

  border people so i think a camera camera [TS]

  what I said last episode that i was [TS]

  expecting like a twenty-five percent [TS]

  chance that i might be able to find [TS]

  someone who fills that all in one roll [TS]

  and here i am with 10 possibilities of [TS]

  people who could fill that all in one [TS]

  roll so I think I dramatically [TS]

  dramatically underestimated last time [TS]

  that was my bet by the way that you [TS]

  would find lots of people that could do [TS]

  both because how else could they have [TS]

  gotten to the point where they made the [TS]

  submission [TS]

  yeah it wasn't you are you are totally [TS]

  right [TS]

  you were right on this one hashtag Mike [TS]

  was right i guess practice you like to [TS]

  hear that I'd love to hit record i know [TS]

  it's his sweet sweet sound to your ears [TS]

  i'll give it to you he's called to my [TS]

  emotional wellness so you found these [TS]

  ten people is that going to be a fleet [TS]

  of cgpgrey and a major illustrators back [TS]

  if you have 10 now it's an abundance [TS]

  this is where i have found things a [TS]

  little bit tricky is I'm I'm not 100% [TS]

  sure how to proceed from this point [TS]

  yeah because again this is where I for [TS]

  the purposes of hiring I again wish that [TS]

  I was a bigger entity i would love to be [TS]

  able to do something like bring on three [TS]

  animators and and have them work on [TS]

  stuff but the question is I just don't [TS]

  reduce enough writing at this point to [TS]

  support something like that is just it [TS]

  is it is just not practical [TS]

  so I I don't really know how this is [TS]

  this is going to proceed and this is [TS]

  partly why i am doing this information [TS]

  gathering stage on the people who have [TS]

  applied because I could easily see you [TS]

  know one of two outcomes for this I [TS]

  could I could see either having one [TS]

  person who does a large amount of work [TS]

  for me or I could see rotating between a [TS]

  few people and one of the interesting [TS]

  things about this submission process [TS]

  which I did expect but didn't explicitly [TS]

  want to say is that a couple of people [TS]

  ignored what was seemingly the most [TS]

  important piece of advice which was you [TS]

  are to animate this video in my style [TS]

  and I anticipated that some people would [TS]

  just totally ignore that but still [TS]

  produce very interesting work and so I [TS]

  have a couple of submissions which fall [TS]

  into that category of this is obviously [TS]

  not a video that I could have ever [TS]

  produced no one would watch this and [TS]

  think boy cgpgrey got a little bit [TS]

  better at animating is like no no see [TS]

  great did not get this good animating [TS]

  like somebody else did this this does [TS]

  not look like his style at all and so [TS]

  those submissions are interesting in a [TS]

  different way maybe there's a way that [TS]

  the future of the siege be great channel [TS]

  that it has [TS]

  rotating styles that just like in the [TS]

  past i have had Knut do animation for a [TS]

  few of my videos Lord of the Rings [TS]

  videos the star trek videos like maybe [TS]

  going forward in the future there might [TS]

  be a couple of different animation [TS]

  styles you already do have different [TS]

  styles so attracted like you have the [TS]

  like the slideshow e-type ones [TS]

  it's like the royal family tree and the [TS]

  political ones like the voting ones then [TS]

  you also have like great explains where [TS]

  it's little stick figure guide talking [TS]

  right or you go like full-on stop for [TS]

  edge 15-minute mini-documentary right so [TS]

  what you are saying right now is the [TS]

  thing that everybody i have spoken to [TS]

  says write back to me like you know you [TS]

  already do this right [TS]

  look at you don't you don't actually [TS]

  have a single style that every single [TS]

  video looks like you already do this and [TS]

  so part of me feels like that is quite [TS]

  naturally the solution going forward [TS]

  that the people that I am working with [TS]

  might end up just having their own style [TS]

  so I have a couple of different looking [TS]

  things on the channel but now the only [TS]

  thing that's different is that it is [TS]

  other people who have made them it is [TS]

  not me because from my perspective since [TS]

  i have made all the videos I think I [TS]

  over assume their visual similarity to [TS]

  the viewer because i have made them if [TS]

  you see what if you see what I mean and [TS]

  saying like oh if I've other people [TS]

  doing different things it'll look just [TS]

  crazy different every single video but I [TS]

  i imagine that that is largely the [TS]

  experience of the viewer already check [TS]

  out this video looks nothing like the [TS]

  other cgpgrey videos and you know if you [TS]

  go back earlier in the channel like [TS]

  there's tons of videos that don't even [TS]

  have the notion of stick figure [TS]

  cgpgrey like there's a bunch of videos [TS]

  that don't even have that what now feels [TS]

  like a constant element right i was [TS]

  totally missing from probably half of my [TS]

  videos i'm gonna say i tip my hat to [TS]

  those people [TS]

  yeah what do you mean it's supposed to [TS]

  move it is it is a total ballsy move and [TS]

  I think that that shows a level of [TS]

  creativity which and confidence which [TS]

  could be beneficial [TS]

  those people were confident [TS]

  nothing their own style and their own [TS]

  ability that they could create something [TS]

  that was different even though you [TS]

  explicitly asked for the same yeah and [TS]

  this is this is kind of what I was I was [TS]

  getting at last time we were talking [TS]

  about talents but I still want to be a [TS]

  little bit indirect about it that the [TS]

  people who are going to do that they're [TS]

  just going to do that anyway [TS]

  yeah right this is faithful even the [TS]

  permeability which they should write you [TS]

  know sometimes that goes terribly wrong [TS]

  I did I did reject very quickly some [TS]

  videos that made that move oh but in a [TS]

  way like now this is this is not going [TS]

  to work [TS]

  yeah it is it is the daring move and [TS]

  it's it's an interesting move and it's [TS]

  like I said who I was anticipating that [TS]

  this would happen but I i wasn't going [TS]

  to bank on it as a one hundred percent [TS]

  certainty [TS]

  hey so a couple of times you have [TS]

  mentioned that something kept you busy [TS]

  like he said that you had to take some [TS]

  days off because you were busy central [TS]

  mosque was going on over there [TS]

  we then you know just just gray [TS]

  industries and such a such a massive [TS]

  global venture there's always there's [TS]

  always something going on those will [TS]

  just keep on turnin huh yeah they do I [TS]

  just I had an experience which was again [TS]

  we're having started this process of [TS]

  trying to get someone as an animator for [TS]

  the youtube channel and also the the [TS]

  thing that happened before with us where [TS]

  you helped me get an editor for hello [TS]

  internet like having those two [TS]

  experiences have turned out to be [TS]

  extremely useful in in the past two [TS]

  weeks because related to hiring i was [TS]

  able to do with thing that I know eight [TS]

  weeks ago would have seemed like an [TS]

  incredible difficult task but now became [TS]

  a thing that I just did in between shows [TS]

  without really mentioning it [TS]

  hero which was i I had a thing that I [TS]

  needed to do for the company i'm not [TS]

  going to specify what that thing is i [TS]

  will let people in the reddit speculate [TS]

  because people have speculated [TS]

  but basically i had a project that [TS]

  needed to get done and sort of [TS]

  unexpectedly needed to get done and I [TS]

  thought okay this is I'm like a person [TS]

  who tries to find freelancers to work [TS]

  with now I can do this let me see if I [TS]

  can just quickly get some people to do [TS]

  this thing for me and so I was really [TS]

  pleased that i had this thing that need [TS]

  to be done [TS]

  I wrote up a basic job description of [TS]

  what needed to occur i passed off the [TS]

  relevant information about here are the [TS]

  key characteristics of what i'm looking [TS]

  for to my personal assistant [TS]

  I had her go look out for a list of [TS]

  candidates who matched these various [TS]

  criteria [TS]

  she gave me a short list of five people [TS]

  I selected it down to a list of three [TS]

  people I then had three people work on a [TS]

  thing simultaneously as a test for each [TS]

  of them and then two of those three [TS]

  people worked out with doing this thing [TS]

  precisely the way that I needed to be [TS]

  done and so now i have to freelancers to [TS]

  be able to call on for particular task [TS]

  we need to get done and I feel like this [TS]

  thing just happened it was like boom [TS]

  boom boom boom here's another time where [TS]

  I feel like I'm being a CEO there's a [TS]

  thing I need done [TS]

  oh I have people to help me with hiring [TS]

  i'm going to make some decisions about [TS]

  the individuals i'm going to pay people [TS]

  to do this work and then i'm going to be [TS]

  able to see right away if it was done [TS]

  properly and it was just done it was [TS]

  just a thing was like done sorted solves [TS]

  and I feel like without cortex that [TS]

  would never have happened that would [TS]

  have been a huge disaster and huge time [TS]

  sink much more than it was just for a [TS]

  couple of days so yeah there was that [TS]

  was good good experience Mike wow ok you [TS]

  yeah I don't think this process take [TS]

  from start to finish it was probably [TS]

  three days but it was also a relatively [TS]

  small amount of my time and attention [TS]

  yeah it was a bit of a panicky think it [TS]

  needs to be done straight away which is [TS]

  why it diverted my mental attention but [TS]

  in terms of the actual amount of time [TS]

  that I spent it was relatively small and [TS]

  I think I just think like this was is [TS]

  just an interesting thing to occur and [TS]

  was one of the ways [TS]

  in which I don't know people change over [TS]

  time and again this would have just been [TS]

  a much more difficult task a long time [TS]

  ago this would have been horrible for [TS]

  you a couple of months ago you would [TS]

  have done everything you could to avoid [TS]

  this process is perfect right right I've [TS]

  like admitting that you needed help [TS]

  right and then trying to go out to the [TS]

  open world to find it right then judging [TS]

  the work and dealing with people like [TS]

  that it's like everything he gets [TS]

  yeah it was it was absolutely terrible [TS]

  but it was it also just to make falls [TS]

  into this category of the theme of the [TS]

  year of less as with so many of these [TS]

  things of me trying to do less and when [TS]

  I was thinking about this is like okay I [TS]

  need someone to help with this task I [TS]

  was I was originally thinking okay let [TS]

  me try to find one person and i'll test [TS]

  one person and i'll do that like but now [TS]

  wait this needs to be done quickly and [TS]

  so this also goes back to the [TS]

  spreadsheet that I still need to help [TS]

  you make at some point Mike I was able [TS]

  to kind of think about this as this is a [TS]

  thing that I need solved quickly what is [TS]

  like what is the cost calculation of [TS]

  having three people just do it if I just [TS]

  pay them to do it and using that [TS]

  essentially as also the job application [TS]

  was like okay well the return on [TS]

  investment for this from a business [TS]

  perspective says just do it like you [TS]

  need this thing done quickly and the [TS]

  cost to trying to do it sequentially [TS]

  doesn't make sense [TS]

  it was an interesting way to realize of [TS]

  of how to try to solve a problem [TS]

  relatively quickly in a very i am [TS]

  thinking about this as a CEO i am not [TS]

  thinking about this as me a person [TS]

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  great what is kool Mac are you thinking [TS]

  about switching keyboard layouts Mike [TS]

  know I've just come across a word I've [TS]

  never heard before [TS]

  it's not a feedback callback is better [TS]

  you should try call Mac that's what I've [TS]

  been told [TS]

  look the internet is an endless fractal [TS]

  of opposing wars of thanks tracker it's [TS]

  like oh there's apple vs IBM right are [TS]

  like this there's mac vs pc okay we're [TS]

  all on the mac side i will now its iOS [TS]

  vs OSX right and ok and then it's like [TS]

  these things go on forever and ever and [TS]

  ever and there is nothing that you can [TS]

  mention that there [TS]

  is not going to be some other side for [TS]

  no matter how obscure you get so the [TS]

  question is are you in the point 0 0 1 [TS]

  percent of the population considering [TS]

  switching to a Dvorak keyboard cast what [TS]

  you have many options right and people [TS]

  are going to argue with you about which [TS]

  of the variations is the best one so [TS]

  everything everything devolves into [TS]

  these kind of little Wars but the answer [TS]

  to your question is that Commack is [TS]

  another alternative keyboard just as [TS]

  dvorak is designed to minimize finger [TS]

  movement commack is also designed to [TS]

  minimize finger movement but my [TS]

  understanding of it is that it is also [TS]

  optimized to be easier to switch to so [TS]

  that when it was being designed the [TS]

  question was not let's minimize the [TS]

  amount of finger travel the question was [TS]

  let's minimize the amount of finger [TS]

  travel and also minimize the amount of [TS]

  keys that were actually going to move [TS]

  yeah i'm looking at a layout now and [TS]

  it's very similar very similar [TS]

  mm so the standard copy cut paste keys [TS]

  everybody in the world uses those are [TS]

  not moved on purpose because everybody [TS]

  has that just burned into their brain [TS]

  about cock cut copy paste there's a few [TS]

  other frequent keys that are not moved [TS]

  but that is my understanding is called [TS]

  Mac is designed to make switching [TS]

  simpler we have Y using OS 10 it would [TS]

  be better [TS]

  yeah sure that one too because i took [TS]

  the Q and W are in the same place like [TS]

  to quit and close windows and stuff like [TS]

  that i can see how like especially as a [TS]

  Mac user it will maybe be easier to [TS]

  switch to connect [TS]

  yeah but my feeling is for its been [TS]

  funny have been getting a lot of how [TS]

  Twitter messages and messages from [TS]

  people telling me that they have decided [TS]

  to switch and that they now understand [TS]

  the feeling like you had a stroke [TS]

  yeah it's like oh god that was not a [TS]

  joke that is legitimately the feeling of [TS]

  trying to type on the nuke [TS]

  word layout as required to use are [TS]

  looking at the four acts it's it's like [TS]

  a nightmare like everything it just [TS]

  looks horrific it's all over the place [TS]

  yeah I like the people that have also [TS]

  seen a couple of people that sent in [TS]

  pictures of photos are printouts of the [TS]

  dvorak layout on the top of their [TS]

  monitor come here i like how you did [TS]

  that offend a few people have taken my [TS]

  on [TS]

  yeah I even though i use dvorak I feel [TS]

  the need to be emphasized other possibly [TS]

  too late for many that i don't i don't [TS]

  promote switching just for funsies [TS]

  ok I think you need a really good reason [TS]

  to want to switch and yeah switching [TS]

  because it's the more efficient layout i [TS]

  think that is not a good decision you [TS]

  hit if you you need to switch the dvorak [TS]

  because you have a really good reason to [TS]

  do so not not 40 it'll be a little [TS]

  faster or it's a little bit more [TS]

  efficient like that i think that is not [TS]

  good enough for the transition costs I [TS]

  can't even imagine the minuscule amount [TS]

  of people in the world that it actually [TS]

  would affect to have more efficiency [TS]

  with time exactly is it [TS]

  what sort of difference you're looking [TS]

  at here if you're going to double your [TS]

  typing speed it might be good right but [TS]

  you're not so you're not doing that [TS]

  buddy [TS]

  yeah and so the amount of time you lose [TS]

  over a couple of months getting back [TS]

  your regular typing speed you're never [TS]

  going to recover that over the course of [TS]

  the whole rest of your life because [TS]

  dvorak may or may not be slightly faster [TS]

  or more efficient one thing that has [TS]

  been kind of rattling around my brain [TS]

  that I'm not sure that I fully [TS]

  understand from our discussion last week [TS]

  is why changing keyboard layout would [TS]

  have helped your hands just still making [TS]

  the same movements right just in [TS]

  different locations [TS]

  yeah it's in like this is why this is [TS]

  why i'm at like a reluctance dvorak [TS]

  promoter and and barely even a dvorak [TS]

  motor because last week would have been [TS]

  different [TS]

  soliloquy i think if you listen back [TS]

  last time if you didn't cut it [TS]

  I i did say something like all i know is [TS]

  that when i switch to dvorak i stopped [TS]

  having problems that that is a [TS]

  very different statement from dvorak [TS]

  will solve all of your problems and make [TS]

  all of your dreams come true now i could [TS]

  just cut that section and just use that [TS]

  pop but you guys FF this is the problem [TS]

  with you doing yet huh [TS]

  I imagine it was a it was a combination [TS]

  of many things at the time I think it [TS]

  was certainly a combination of taking a [TS]

  big break from typing when I had a [TS]

  problem i think it was almost certainly [TS]

  being forced to get back into typing [TS]

  very slowly because i wasn't able to [TS]

  type very quickly and then I think those [TS]

  two things started me down on the right [TS]

  path and then now that I type with [TS]

  dvorak i think that the amount i am [TS]

  moving my hands is now under the [TS]

  threshold that would cause me RSI [TS]

  problems right whereas before with [TS]

  qwerty i think it was over the threshold [TS]

  but i may not be representative of the [TS]

  general population it is very possible [TS]

  that i am right on the edge with that [TS]

  kind of thing whereas everybody with RSI [TS]

  problems they have some threshold some [TS]

  people's thresholds are naturally hire [TS]

  some people thresholds are naturally [TS]

  lower and that is going to affect what [TS]

  helps you or what doesn't help you and [TS]

  so I i suspect that typing wise i was [TS]

  right on some threshold we're changing [TS]

  to dvorak switched but if your [TS]

  sensitivity to our side problems is very [TS]

  high switching to dvorak might not help [TS]

  you at all right it might just cost you [TS]

  some time and not be beneficial [TS]

  so that that's why i always try to be [TS]

  really careful when I talk about it like [TS]

  it helped me but I'm not sure that I can [TS]

  universally recommend it though i would [TS]

  say if you are having RSI problems [TS]

  it doesn't necessarily hurt to try [TS]

  like it because what else are you going [TS]

  to do you can try different split [TS]

  keyboard like there's a bunch of stuff [TS]

  that you can try and dvorak is one of [TS]

  those tools and [TS]

  i know i've i've used split keyboard [TS]

  like I've done a bunch of that other [TS]

  stuff but I I think switching the layout [TS]

  was was the thing that worked well for [TS]

  me but I am NOT a doctor did not play [TS]

  one on a podcast all I will say is with [TS]

  the commack people i don't know how much [TS]

  easier it is to actually switch to [TS]

  commack my suspicion is that if you can [TS]

  get dvorak or you're going to commack [TS]

  either way you're going to feel like [TS]

  you've had a stroke [TS]

  I can't imagine it's going to be that [TS]

  much of a difference so i think that the [TS]

  thing that really matters is just [TS]

  knowing that whatever device you are [TS]

  going to use has software level support [TS]

  for the keyboard that you were going to [TS]

  use like that is the primary feature [TS]

  okay Mike last week I told you about the [TS]

  one true email app which is Uni box and [TS]

  i would like to know if you have tried [TS]

  it since then i have set up unit box or [TS]

  my devices today and I've played with it [TS]

  then I can see a utility for it but i [TS]

  don't think i will use it as much as you [TS]

  do [TS]

  I know exactly when I will use unity box [TS]

  when is that when i go on trips [TS]

  ok so why why on trips versus other [TS]

  times what was your thinking here so [TS]

  when I'm when I one trips this can be [TS]

  vacations or work trips i have less time [TS]

  to devote to email so whenever I do open [TS]

  my email inbox i would like to be able [TS]

  to a glance pick out important things [TS]

  and that would be by person who so it's [TS]

  very likely that you know if I'm not [TS]

  looking email for a few days I might [TS]

  have a few emails from a few important [TS]

  people and they'll be grouped together [TS]

  in your box and it's a better way I [TS]

  think to manage a large inbox [TS]

  mm so i will definitely use it then [TS]

  which is why I'm keeping it installed [TS]

  because i know that at times where i can [TS]

  only just dip into this and pick out [TS]

  important things and I know there's [TS]

  gonna be a lot more in the unusual this [TS]

  would be a really good way of glance to [TS]

  get a view of [TS]

  what is happening which is why I also [TS]

  think that this app is kind of made for [TS]

  your style of email because that's kind [TS]

  of how you mean it sounds like I'm [TS]

  making a drug but I'm being serious like [TS]

  this this is how you kind of always do [TS]

  your email right is it all you would let [TS]

  it build up then you go in and you drop [TS]

  away at it but mostly you need to see [TS]

  email from maybe one person [TS]

  yeah and that's what makes your [TS]

  situation different to most of the [TS]

  people [TS]

  yeah this was something which someone [TS]

  the reddit left a comment along the [TS]

  lines like you need a box is the perfect [TS]

  email app if you only check your email [TS]

  once a week that is very accurate [TS]

  I I realized in retrospect I think i had [TS]

  not quite really articulated that [TS]

  whatever that really got a laugh out of [TS]

  me because I realized as soon as i read [TS]

  that [TS]

  yes of course that is exactly the [TS]

  purpose of this email app is if you are [TS]

  checking your email all the time the [TS]

  very feature that it is built around [TS]

  sort by sender is almost entirely [TS]

  useless to you [TS]

  whereas if you are someone like me who [TS]

  wants to check their email in box once a [TS]

  week and then for as little time is [TS]

  humanly possible then this is the email [TS]

  client for you but i think is more is [TS]

  more than just sort by sender that makes [TS]

  it useless the grouping yeah you know [TS]

  because i think you can have other apps [TS]

  i know you've tried not may do it but [TS]

  sort by sender is anything to do is just [TS]

  a different way to sort the inbox but it [TS]

  goes an extra step to group email from [TS]

  the same person even if it's a different [TS]

  thread together that's that's a whole [TS]

  different scenario [TS]

  yeah and that's that's what I thought I [TS]

  totally love about it i applaud doing it [TS]

  this way right that you have a a way of [TS]

  wanting to manage email that is [TS]

  different and going for it [TS]

  I wish that more apps would do that in [TS]

  all honesty like find of thing that [TS]

  works for you and go for it like it was [TS]

  one of the things that I loved about [TS]

  mailbox right like the idea of mailbox [TS]

  was focused around [TS]

  what they referred to as inbox zero with [TS]

  you is like a real twist on what it [TS]

  actually started out as being their idea [TS]

  was clear the email from your inbox [TS]

  whether you are marking it is to do [TS]

  using it for later answering it or [TS]

  archiving it but like at the end of the [TS]

  day have nothing in there and I like the [TS]

  whole app was built around that ideology [TS]

  whether it's right or wrong like that [TS]

  was the way that they built their [TS]

  application and that's what I also liked [TS]

  about you know box and I wish that more [TS]

  email applications would come with some [TS]

  kind of overriding like theory to them [TS]

  write some design philosophy on around [TS]

  you know how should you handle messages [TS]

  yep and that is exactly what my new [TS]

  email and password which is do [TS]

  everything to them i think is the [TS]

  overall theory of air mail [TS]

  how have you played of ml on iOS yes i [TS]

  have played with airmail it is the it's [TS]

  the white icon things like the white [TS]

  envelope is that it yeah has an envelope [TS]

  on it you know what I mean yeah i dunno [TS]

  ok that is what the envelope is thin [TS]

  blue line that airmail you know what [TS]

  you've done to me i just said envelope [TS]

  yeah should be envelope ok Oh terrible [TS]

  this is what happens when you talk to [TS]

  Americans are doing well I know mobile [TS]

  mobile envelopes [TS]

  this is just accent drift there's [TS]

  there's no way to avoid this [TS]

  I know you can you can hear this in my [TS]

  voice [TS]

  if you go back and you listen to my [TS]

  early videos like you go back and you [TS]

  listen to that you can explain video the [TS]

  very first 1i sound like a totally [TS]

  different person because that was the me [TS]

  who spoke to british people all day long [TS]

  right my accent drifted in the opposite [TS]

  way and then since I left schools and [TS]

  don't talk to british people all day [TS]

  long my accent has very naturally just [TS]

  drifted back that's much more towards [TS]

  the normal American I wouldn't have [TS]

  expected that to happen in schools I [TS]

  think it's worse because you're aiming [TS]

  when you're talking in front of children [TS]

  to be non distracting and so I was [TS]

  actually very conscious particularly [TS]

  when i was teaching of having a much [TS]

  softened [TS]

  version of my American accent right [TS]

  that's exactly my thinking with my [TS]

  accent yeah i soften it down for the [TS]

  Americans exactly because otherwise the [TS]

  Americans will go home LOL listen to the [TS]

  way you said that word right that's it [TS]

  so you learn you have to talk in a [TS]

  certain way to not distract your [TS]

  American co-host [TS]

  uh-huh is that isn't that what happens [TS]

  yep that's exactly my thinking anyway [TS]

  that's accented it happens to everybody [TS]

  there's no way around it and you are [TS]

  just in the funny situation that even [TS]

  though you live in the united kingdom [TS]

  the vast majority of words you speak at [TS]

  this point are two non-british people i [TS]

  mean it has to be the case right [TS]

  oh yeah well because i tend to speak to [TS]

  either American people while remaining [TS]

  in person [TS]

  exactly that's what i was thinking right [TS]

  is that you do not even you're not even [TS]

  normalizing back at home [TS]

  normalizing back at home [TS]

  there's you you're being pulled in an [TS]

  entirely other way back at home so yeah [TS]

  that's it should be no surprise that you [TS]

  were saying on and have the envelope [TS]

  envelope with an envelope envelope [TS]

  ok extent of envelope so just after we [TS]

  recorded our last episode in canvas [TS]

  which is another showing real life and [TS]

  you know which is kind of iOS focused [TS]

  they did a whole big episode about [TS]

  third-party email clients and Federico [TS]

  was really pushing air mail and he had [TS]

  previously read a big review about it [TS]

  and I decided to check it out and I like [TS]

  it a lot [TS]

  I like it a lot hum it is rough around [TS]

  the edges in places like it does some [TS]

  weird stuff like it has some weird bugs [TS]

  and there's some UI stuff that I'm not [TS]

  massively keen on but I feel like and [TS]

  I've heard there's gonna be some changes [TS]

  which would be a bit nicer for my eyes [TS]

  but it also does the custom imap [TS]

  screwing around thing that's I just [TS]

  realized that's why no air mail because [TS]

  I've been trying to delete their custom [TS]

  I'm app folders from my setup for a [TS]

  while and they keep coming back because [TS]

  it must be installed somewhere that I [TS]

  don't know where its waking up every [TS]

  once in awhile [TS]

  yeah because it will do snoozing and [TS]

  stuff but i don't use any of it like it [TS]

  sets them up but if you just don't go [TS]

  buy into that it will just they just [TS]

  live there as empty labels who but what [TS]

  I really like about this application is [TS]

  it has tons of third-party integrations [TS]

  so like I'm very easily able to take an [TS]

  email and send it to only focus will [TS]

  openly focus attach the whole text of [TS]

  the emails and note which is so call me [TS]

  so let's say somebody sends me ad copy i [TS]

  can add the whole copy that they sent me [TS]

  to the OmniFocus note reminding me to [TS]

  write it up [TS]

  yeah yeah that kind of thing is is [TS]

  really nice to be able to do they can [TS]

  send it there's just so many services [TS]

  that plugs into and also can do really [TS]

  powerful things with the email messages [TS]

  like turn them into pdfs em it has [TS]

  something I've never seen any email app [TS]

  do in that you can take an email and [TS]

  save it in a folder in another email [TS]

  account [TS]

  what say you receive so you have [TS]

  multiple email accounts [TS]

  ok and you get an email to see to be [TS]

  great one gmail.com right but really you [TS]

  would like to save it and folded it you [TS]

  haven't CGP grey three @ gmail.com [TS]

  ok it will let you take that email and [TS]

  save it in a folder in the other email [TS]

  account like it doesn't crazy stuff like [TS]

  sending them around but it's just ok [TS]

  it's just a weird feature that I've [TS]

  really like because this feels like an [TS]

  app that is made by people who deal with [TS]

  lots of email who so it has all these [TS]

  crazy little things that you can do and [TS]

  they just had a new mac app update come [TS]

  out and so this is an all-around system [TS]

  which is all of my platforms and if I [TS]

  want to I can snooze emails but i'm not [TS]

  getting back into that now [TS]

  right because I've learned to live [TS]

  without it and I've really liked it and [TS]

  it has one of my very favorite things [TS]

  and it does it so well on all my devices [TS]

  and this is my main reason seriously for [TS]

  for sticking with this way if i can [TS]

  remember it was email notifications is [TS]

  that right now that was our last [TS]

  notifications which is fine enough [TS]

  remember notifications driving you crazy [TS]

  that you used to have have an email app [TS]

  setup solely for the notifications that [TS]

  was at that was a one-time yeah but I [TS]

  told the date notifications so good you [TS]

  can choose to pull down and read the [TS]

  entire email message [TS]

  nice which I really like that but no my [TS]

  favorite feature is you can choose this [TS]

  it does not mark an email as read until [TS]

  it is opened acted upon [TS]

  oh and acted upon yes that's nice that's [TS]

  a nice touch [TS]

  so because i am constantly in all of my [TS]

  email is opening a message and marking [TS]

  it as unread again and that drives me [TS]

  crazy because I like to leave messages [TS]

  as unread who until I do something with [TS]

  them who and then sometimes I'll [TS]

  purposely mark them as read do something [TS]

  with the email but leave it in my inbox [TS]

  that something need to catch up on but [TS]

  it's not unread email anymore so that's [TS]

  my own weird system but i like that has [TS]

  that feature and it has a bunch of [TS]

  different things that it will do but I [TS]

  yeah I really like this application [TS]

  there [TS]

  tons of settings tons every setting so [TS]

  you can really go in and if you're [TS]

  willing to put the time in and kind of [TS]

  make this the email that you want to be [TS]

  I'm really impressive is great so what [TS]

  do you think you have found an email [TS]

  home i think so that's that's very nice [TS]

  plus they charge for the application it [TS]

  but right yeah I'm with you on this one [TS]

  as well I get nervous when apps don't [TS]

  charge it feels like but if you're [TS]

  important to me i would like to give you [TS]

  money when you have to be more money [TS]

  than you're charging because i want you [TS]

  to be around [TS]

  yep so that's charging is a feature for [TS]

  important apps i think that's get you [TS]

  are with airmail you may have found a [TS]

  home there and since we did that the [TS]

  last show where I was promoting unity [TS]

  box someone pointed out to me at an [TS]

  additional feature of uni box which has [TS]

  now allowed it to become my only email [TS]

  app the last time i mentioned i had this [TS]

  funny workflow of slipping into mail for [TS]

  VIPs and then flipping back but someone [TS]

  sent to me that there's a feature on the [TS]

  message list where you can pull down and [TS]

  have it only show messages from people [TS]

  who are in your contact book and that's [TS]

  not exactly the same as VIPs but it's a [TS]

  to me it's like a seventy percent [TS]

  solution it's good enough that if I can [TS]

  do this then I don't have to bother [TS]

  flipping back into mail dot app and [TS]

  using a different interface so now i can [TS]

  just do my entire workflow in uni box in [TS]

  one interface in one place and I'm very [TS]

  happy so I have found an email home and [TS]

  you have found an email home for now [TS]

  anyway because the we always keep [TS]

  starting oh yeah this it's the Great [TS]

  Wheel of email ya in a week whether you [TS]

  will be complaining about it again look [TS]

  at it in context episode 1 i'm looking [TS]

  at my home screen a completely different [TS]

  email application to I'm using now the [TS]

  application on my home screen doesn't [TS]

  even exist anymore [TS]

  at that ugly ugly home screen [TS]

  restinpeace little buddy think about how [TS]

  much better your life is after you've [TS]

  met me you think that was a worthy [TS]

  cortex anniversary episode Mike well I [TS]

  mean we spoke about email [TS]

  yep I guess it's an excellent point [TS]

  email is central to all of the all of [TS]

  the work that occurs in our lives so i [TS]

  think so i think i think may be right [TS]

  there [TS]

  well yeah it's kind of perfect because [TS]

  the gift for first anniversary is paper [TS]

  and emails are just electronic paper [TS]

  that's the traditional gift clock to the [TS]

  modern gift [TS]

  what do you mean [TS]