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Cortex 29: Dvorak

 

00:00:00   there is a nonzero chance that someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/0">TS</a>]

00:00:03   gonna write our names on the on the u.s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05   ballot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5">TS</a>]

00:00:06   oh yeah it's that you don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/6">TS</a>]

00:00:08   like that is going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/8">TS</a>]

00:00:10   I i guarantee you that yeah that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12   someone somewhere is going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14   read out how many boats we got right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   like someone is going to read out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20   somewhere and then me and you have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/20">TS</a>]

00:00:24   that we've got voted to it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/26">TS</a>]

00:00:27   it seems inevitable that someone's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/27">TS</a>]

00:00:28   write clearly 2016 on their on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   write-in vote I would be shocked if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   doesn't happen very excited about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   full yeah but then this can also act as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   a check on voter fraud because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   always get these stories come out where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/38">TS</a>]

00:00:39   someone does a write-in vote that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   name so that they can intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   check later when the votes are counted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/44">TS</a>]

00:00:45   to see if that one write-in vote was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   counted very often it's not which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   doesn't make you feel super secure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   democracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/51">TS</a>]

00:00:52   mm so we're going to have to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/52">TS</a>]

00:00:53   everywhere we go i will you find where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   we where we've been voted yet you can or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/56">TS</a>]

00:01:00   we're greatly 2016 can be a check on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/60">TS</a>]

00:01:05   integrity of your local polling station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08   yes the canary that's like a warrant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/68">TS</a>]

00:01:09   canary right great 2016 on your ballot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   and then you see if you got any votes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13   remember people on top of the ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/73">TS</a>]

00:01:16   yeah yeah that I think this is perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   and so people can do i'm looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   to the election season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22   yeah we're gonna win oh I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/82">TS</a>]

00:01:26   it's like trying to remember our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/86">TS</a>]

00:01:27   platform is it is it was an ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/87">TS</a>]

00:01:31   every house and automation in every app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   yeah perfect make ipad great again make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   I've had great again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/96">TS</a>]

00:01:37   so you went ahead and did it you've put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/97">TS</a>]

00:01:41   your application out that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/101">TS</a>]

00:01:42   talking about last time for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   freelance animation work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   yes oh dear how's it going so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/107">TS</a>]

00:01:51   I don't know I i said in the i said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   the application i wasn't going to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   at entries until tomorrow and I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   so i have no idea how it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00   do you know if anyone coming in I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   know that a bunch of come in okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   because i have arranged a system with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   assistants my i guess like now slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/128">TS</a>]

00:02:12   member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   HR department assistant surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   promotion that she has been receiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   all of the various applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   she has been putting the information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   into a spreadsheet with some secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/142">TS</a>]

00:02:27   checks behind the scenes that I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   want some information that but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   spreadsheet and then she is also taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33   the videos and she is giving them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   number and putting them all into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39   dropbox folder for me to view so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/159">TS</a>]

00:02:43   exactly sure how many videos are in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   dropbox folder right now I know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/165">TS</a>]

00:02:48   there's a bunch and I'm gonna take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49   look through them and this is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   that I want to do what I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   have a number i don't want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/173">TS</a>]

00:02:54   anything about the person i just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   see the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/176">TS</a>]

00:02:56   yeah and so this way i can say oh yes ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/176">TS</a>]

00:03:02   number 1245 this person was good for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/182">TS</a>]

00:03:06   collection papers exactly right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09   could say oh you know the these three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   these three are good and then let's move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   on from here and see okay like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   did this person send a portfolio did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   they do a bunch of other stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/198">TS</a>]

00:03:19   that's the way I'm doing it so I i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21   not be looking at the applications first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/201">TS</a>]

00:03:24   because the most relevant thing to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   how well can it be animated and i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29   going to look at those i'm going to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30   at them clean with just a file number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33   and that's how it's going to start so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   know people have sent in applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   but i haven't actually looked at any yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   so I don't know if they're any good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   you're not going to know this but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   just going to mention it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/223">TS</a>]

00:03:44   listeners who will know this i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   realized that the video that you created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   with your voiceover that people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   take the gradient the colors that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   have to look just like the new instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56   oh ok i know that was going to be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   on so but now people can go and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   that and be like oh wow they felt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   took the idea from you so if you hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   the Instagram logo you can you can blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/245">TS</a>]

00:04:08   great for that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   I don't have an Instagram of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   people in my life to assumed would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   have Instagram would be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   okay what are you going to post the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/256">TS</a>]

00:04:17   pictures of your food the protein bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20   and bolts things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/260">TS</a>]

00:04:23   that's perfect for flights of not some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   bolts that you just chowed down on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   robot power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29   yeah i like the system of just randomly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   looking at videos rather than looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   the applications themselves because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   thing that you want to be judging people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   and is the work not anything about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   as a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   yeah that the work is the thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   the most relevance and I also figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   that this is the way i mean i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   how many of these are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/288">TS</a>]

00:04:49   looking at hopefully lots but I figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   this is the fastest way to be able to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   through something because I just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/295">TS</a>]

00:04:59   know I have obviously been thinking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   lot about hiring and having some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/301">TS</a>]

00:05:02   interesting conversations with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03   and this is one of these cases where in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/303">TS</a>]

00:05:07   my attempt to to work with someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   this particular situation there their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12   resume is not really relevant page that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/312">TS</a>]

00:05:17   the only thing that is relevant is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18   well they can do this and so if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   sends me you know a resume and says I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/320">TS</a>]

00:05:24   went to this design school and I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/324">TS</a>]

00:05:25   this design school and I'm certified in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   Adobe Illustrator and i'm certified like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   okay man like that's great but i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   don't really care like I only care if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   this thing can be done you know it's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   if this is if this is your first attempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/338">TS</a>]

00:05:42   at ever doing any kind of animation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45   you do it well the flipside like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   care either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48   you know if you're brand-new but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   just learned adobe illustrator and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   gave it a go and you did a good job like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/352">TS</a>]

00:05:53   fantastic welcome aboard like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   yeah this is the thing this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   that is relevant to me so that's why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00   don't i figure i watch the videos first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   and then I'll i look at what has come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   through on email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   secondarily because something else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09   hadn't thought by so you replied to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   reddit comment about this there was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   necessarily one person is gonna you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   you have like multiple golden tickets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   come and look inside to see gray factory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   golden tickets are fitted then I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/380">TS</a>]

00:06:27   considered how much this is like Willy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/387">TS</a>]

00:06:30   Wonka I I don't see the connection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   over these seen you in many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   there is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   is a factory in which amazing things put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   together for the enjoyment of millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   just like Willy Wonka and now you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   opened up to the world for somebody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/404">TS</a>]

00:06:48   come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49   you know and they're gonna go people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/409">TS</a>]

00:06:50   a set of trials to see if they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   the the true and pure person who can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   help you out the end well as long as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/415">TS</a>]

00:06:58   gene wilder Willy Wonka and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   Johnny Depp Willy Wonka that is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02   one the gene wilder movies a faucet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05   period movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/425">TS</a>]

00:07:05   yeah okay so they just want to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   clear yeah Chris in this in this analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   in this analogy i'm jean water i do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/429">TS</a>]

00:07:15   want to be Johnny Depp in this analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/435">TS</a>]

00:07:16   am I like an oompa loompa then i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   am right if you want to do that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/440">TS</a>]

00:07:21   go right ahead but this is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23   thing I can be in this scenario right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/443">TS</a>]

00:07:26   because i work with you already and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   they're the only people that work of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   already right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   yeah I just a shame like I can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/450">TS</a>]

00:07:33   photo shops already like it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   great i can't wait for it but yes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/455">TS</a>]

00:07:38   moving right along from the inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/458">TS</a>]

00:07:41   bearded photoshop's of Mike as in beluga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/461">TS</a>]

00:07:45   too pretty to the ass even hit in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48   scenario yeah it's having having put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   this job application it's interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   see like a eight challenge of clarity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/472">TS</a>]

00:07:57   sometimes where there are things which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   are sort of clear in my mind the new you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   look at what you've done you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   obviously there's no reason this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   be clear to anybody and yes one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   things is when i said i was looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09   freelance help i I've always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   thinking that in in my absolute perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/491">TS</a>]

00:08:16   perfect world I would love to find at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/496">TS</a>]

00:08:19   least two people that I could work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22   right and it's precisely because since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   know this is going to be at least from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26   the start freelance work i would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/506">TS</a>]

00:08:30   because the primary person that I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   want to work with might not always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/512">TS</a>]

00:08:33   available and so I have had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/513">TS</a>]

00:08:36   experience with music where there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   several people who i can have on tap to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   help with music but that's partly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   because each of them isn't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   available precisely when I need them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   be available so yeah it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   that there's just going to be over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   is a single person i am going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   making a list of however many people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   think that it is possible to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   and at least at the start to move move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/539">TS</a>]

00:09:02   forward in that way now again I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   I'm still a little worried because i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   looking for a kind of perfect person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   that I i will not find what I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   for on this round one you know and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   I will have to do around two or or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16   second approach for this so again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19   is my theoretically perfect scenario is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   that i would find two or more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   that I could work with but I'm I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/563">TS</a>]

00:09:27   like a betting odds on it i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   say there's the twenty-five percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32   chance that I get what I wanted in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   first round I don't know we'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   see i actually think that finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37   someone in the first round or two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/577">TS</a>]

00:09:41   in the first round the perfect is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42   actually not the best thing that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   happen i think the genuine i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/584">TS</a>]

00:09:47   better thing is to find people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/587">TS</a>]

00:09:48   kind of there and that you can help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   develop the office again let me let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   try to clarify what i mean by perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   here because what I'm looking for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/594">TS</a>]

00:09:58   someone who has talent right someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/598">TS</a>]

00:10:03   someone who's able to do this thing well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   and again thinking back to my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/605">TS</a>]

00:10:10   of being a teacher it was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13   always to see that there were kids who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   could immediately say like oh this kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   is talented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21   it doesn't mean that they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   everything exactly right the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   around but it does mean that compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/625">TS</a>]

00:10:29   the majority of their untalented peers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32   like this would be the kid you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/632">TS</a>]

00:10:35   want to work on project x and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   that is my feeling in this this round of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/638">TS</a>]

00:10:42   applications what is when I say perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   i really mean that there there's someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   who they've done a competent enough job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49   the first time around and but what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   really looking for is this is difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   to define talent of of some sort and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/653">TS</a>]

00:10:59   think like one of the things i will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   looking for when I'm watching the videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   for example is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   because i haven't we can talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   now because of course this episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   cortex is going to go up after in theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   i actually look at things so I can kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   of reveal the secrets here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   one of the things I'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   looking for is did the person do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/675">TS</a>]

00:11:19   something interesting or unexpected with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22   the way they chose to animate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   particular section I think that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   thing is is a marker of talent because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/687">TS</a>]

00:11:32   have in my mind okay if I had to animate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/692">TS</a>]

00:11:35   this script I know roughly what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   put on the screen in each of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38   sections but what I would actually want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41   to see is someone who did a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   section differently than i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   done it and that either provokes like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   like a smile or a laugh from me in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   unexpected manner and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   difficult to define and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   something i'm going to write out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   job application because i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   people who are talented would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   naturally do that but they wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   able to do not do that so that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/726">TS</a>]

00:12:09   the things when i'm looking through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/729">TS</a>]

00:12:10   that i'm going to be kind of keeping an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   eye out for is was I surprised did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   do this in an interesting and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   unexpected way but that's not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20   thing as literally expecting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   somebody is going to create a video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   looks exactly like I made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27   that's what you should should sort of be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/747">TS</a>]

00:12:28   aiming for but that's not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   the thing that I'm explicitly and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   looking for when I'm actually reviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/752">TS</a>]

00:12:35   the videos i think of it like a tribute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/755">TS</a>]

00:12:39   band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/759">TS</a>]

00:12:40   ok like they do in the style of cgpgrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43   right but it as it some Flair in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/763">TS</a>]

00:12:46   way i think that that's the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   yeah maybe I know nothing of your music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   analogies so i'm going to assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/770">TS</a>]

00:12:53   that spot on the right but this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/773">TS</a>]

00:12:59   is again this is one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/779">TS</a>]

00:13:00   where you realize like oh I when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   writing this out i was thinking oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03   there's two things that I'm looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   i'm looking for an animator and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/785">TS</a>]

00:13:06   illustrator but there's really three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   things that I'm looking for i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/789">TS</a>]

00:13:10   for an animator an illustrator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   someone who who has this undefinable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/792">TS</a>]

00:13:15   little spark of talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   and that's one of those you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/797">TS</a>]

00:13:20   you see it kind of things and so we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   know I guess the next time we record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   cortex because by then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   yep i'm looking at it on friday which as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   we are recording right now is tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   and I will be continuing to look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   as stuff comes in because that was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   finalized deadline but by the time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/815">TS</a>]

00:13:38   record the next cortex I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   will be some information about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   whether or not I'm going forward or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   whether I'm thinking about how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   approach a round two of hiring well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/825">TS</a>]

00:13:49   will look forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   I i wish i was future me right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/831">TS</a>]

00:13:55   already knew what happened did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   intend friday the 13th such a happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/838">TS</a>]

00:14:02   accident I was just a pleasant accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   don't know why because it routes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07   pointlessly suspicious people friday the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/847">TS</a>]

00:14:14   13th is unlucky i don't know if i wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15   i already was over the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/855">TS</a>]

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00:16:36   Kingdom Kingdom com offer code cortex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/996">TS</a>]

00:16:40   for as long as I've known you there has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   been something that I've been interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   in asking you what is dvorak and why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:48   you use it you know what dvorak is Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:52   I know what it is it's it's a weird way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:56   to arrange a keyboard but I want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1016">TS</a>]

00:17:00   explain to for the people that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:01   know what it is and then say like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   is it it's not a weird way to arrange a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:07   keyboard abnormal abnormal would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   correct because of course the normal way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   to arrange keyboard is the so-called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:13   qwerty layout where quality is the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:16   on the top left of your keyboard if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   can look at a keyboard right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19   listener that's what you'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   Dvorak is named after a person I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   don't even know what dvorak is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:28   alternate keyboard layout that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   used for a long time and the the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:35   selling feature of dvorak is that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:42   qwerty keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   the letters are arranged in such a way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   think so one of the things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:48   happening very often is like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50   alternating hands now there's a whole is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:53   a whole lot of I think urban legends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   around the qwerty keyboard layout that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   every time I have attempted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:58   investigate mostly seemed like just BS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01   or just so stories that get repeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:04   over and over again like I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   actual origin of this stuff is a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   lost in in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   yeah that did the generally accepted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   reason for the quality of being as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:15   is it was created so it would stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:19   typewriters from jamming up because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   theory the letters would be far away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   from each other so they would like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   little arms whatever the cold wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   be hitting each other that's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   generally accepted reason that's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   the thing that you you hear from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   i remember looking into it a while ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   and when I was thinking about doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   video on this and just not coming to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   satisfactory resolution and get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   that to me I don't know it it may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43   true it may not be true but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   some things that my brain always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46   followed files away as suspiciously just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:49   so stories because if that is like true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   that they if like if they're close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53   together they Jem up if your name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   Terry you'd hate to use a typewriter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58   I actually have typed on a mechanical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   typewriter like that and it is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   pain in the butt when when it jams very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   briefly spent some time in a teaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   course where they actually use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08   mechanical typewriters is like you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   gotta be kidding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10   the oldc to be great I'm it mainly just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   ye olde the school equipment is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   actually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   oh I use the typewriter is a kid just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:19   for fun like there was one in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:24   it was an electric typewriter that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   granddad had and I used to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   little stories on it but it was before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:29   we had a computer like losses in i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32   the very early nineties and we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   have a computer at home so I used to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   know as a kid instead of writing out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   stories in like Microsoft Word or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:39   whatever which my younger brother did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42   wrote them on an electric typewriter who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   was fun but typewriter suck because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:49   you make a mistake what you do a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:50   when you're like four years old you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   ruined everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   yeah you're you ruin everything xxxxx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   it's everywhere Yeah Yeah right or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   be backspace over it with point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   which never looks right like that paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:03   that it slams down is typewriters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   terrible technology so yeah I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   know if that's true or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:09   and frankly like of no interest to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:12   whether it's turning out like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:12   really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13   this is also one of those things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   it may just be a network effect where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   there was a keyboard layout it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19   to gain a little bit of popularity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   that popularity feeds on itself and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   becomes a standardized thing and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   not actually any explanation for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:28   right just like okay one of them was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   going to succeed and this happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   the one that succeeded end of story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   there isn't anything to say about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38   the Dvorak keyboard is intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:42   designed to minimize finger travel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:48   perhaps one of the the best examples of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49   this is if you think on a normal qwerty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:52   keyboard and you look where you put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53   hands on the home row assuming that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   can touch-type probably not the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:58   egregious thing on the qwerty keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   is that underneath your right hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:03   pinkie you have the colon and semicolon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:06   key which are probably not super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:09   frequently used whereas on the Dvorak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12   keyboard that is the letter S underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   your right hand pinkie and underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   your left hand on the Dvorak keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   are a whole bunch of vowels it's a 000 e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:23   you and I are right there on the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   row for your left hand whereas on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:29   court keyboard you have just a and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32   vowels are kind of spread all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   place so the fundamental idea is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:37   when you are typing words with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   Dvorak keyboard the amount that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:43   hands need to move is less than with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:47   recording keyboard now get many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   who promote dvorak they use all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:52   reasons they talk about how you can type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   faster on a Dvorak keyboard and I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   feel like again this is not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   relevant to me that the speed of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   typing is not the limiting factor in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03   life that is not the reason I use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   Dvorak keyboard i switched from 42 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:09   dvorak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   many many years ago now back when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:14   I believe a young sophomore in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:19   here is as best i can remember the gist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   of what happened i was always as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   imagine quite a nerdy child I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27   computers and it would spend all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28   free time that I could in high school on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   the computer that the family had in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   house when I went off to college I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   now free of all constraints right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:38   were there were no parents telling me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   get off a computer once you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:42   the amount of time that you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   have to spend in classes is much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   less which is fantastic and I was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:53   computer just all the time and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   you add on to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   I also as people do in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   experimented with linux on my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:05   and so I was using linux as my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   system and I really got into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   terminal and like typing all commands on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   on the computer and doing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12   with a non graphical interface even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15   one point was running a system that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   had no guey installed at all like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   everything was just command line i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   totally loved it i was using emacs and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   just i was typing on the computer all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:28   the time all of my free time and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:32   the course of probably about a year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:33   a half that just like recently happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:37   with animation that caught up with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   and I had a sudden very bad onset of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42   pain in my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:43   that just put a screeching halt to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:48   typing and I went to the school nurse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   and hit like your forearms are horrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   lean flip inflamed have you been typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   on a computer a lot and of course my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   answer was well does every single moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   of my free time count as a lot like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   and so of course I still wanted to type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04   on a computer i wasn't going to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05   typing on a computer and it just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   happened it just lucked out that when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   had this bout of real pain in my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   it came exactly at a semester break in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   university and i had about two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:21   weeks off from school what I decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   was I took a break from typing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   computer at all for that those couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   weeks and try to relax get my hands back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   in in normal condition I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34   spending would seem like an incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35   long time without a computer just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   reading books and watching TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   thinking like how mad i really wish i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   could be on the computer now but i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:42   after that after that break when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   didn't need to type anything when i came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   back to school I decided I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   switch keyboard layouts i was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   learn dvorak because i had read that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:55   some people with RSI they find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   beneficial and i thought well i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   try something because I'm certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03   going to type less so I need to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   fix this system wise and I switch to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:10   dvorak layout and if anyone has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:15   tried to do this to try to learn a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:18   different keyboard layout the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   you will experience is this feeling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   your brain is broken when you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   type because when you are good at typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   on the computer you feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28   just expressing your thoughts right from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   your mind and you're feeding it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   computer and then when you switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33   layouts it's like you've had a stroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   and you need to relearn how to walk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:39   know if it's so frustrating you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   like I used to just do this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   without thinking and now suddenly I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   incapable of doing this and because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   active typing is the act of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   it's just this feedback loop of like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   brain is broken it's it's very it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:57   very very frustrating thing to do it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00   very frustrating to switch that alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   though especially for someone like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   feels like a reason not to use the Borek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   right like that that switching because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   it's not available everywhere is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   actually not available on the iPad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   all and software right unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17   against or something external yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   mean you're talking about like switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   costs here is that what you mean by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   question yeah because you're switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   constantly well okay first of all I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:29   you're talking about a time long before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   iPads or even a glint in Steve Jobs eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:35   at this point i was working with my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   computers and essentially nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:42   like I didn't have to use anybody else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   computer and so switching over on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:47   computer that i was using all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   was not a big deal i didn't i did not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:52   was in an environment where I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:53   have to move back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   quality and dvorak I could focus just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:59   my one computer and and just relearning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   it there and doing everything they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   right and and my tip my tip if anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06   does want to switch the dvorak I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   know this is the best way to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   at least is the way i did at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:11   because I was so frustrated with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   feeling like I can't type and i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17   found trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:20   typing programs again with super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   frustrating you know you can just run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:25   any typing program and you change over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   your keyboard and you like relearn how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   to type just like you learn to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   touch-type the first time I I hated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   as well I felt god this is just so slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   is taking forever I don't have time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:34   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   the trick that I found that worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   beautifully was I printed out a dvorak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:40   layout on a on a piece of paper and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43   taped it to the top of my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   monitor and so what i did was i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   look at that piece of paper when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   wanted to type and then type on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   keyboard that was in front of me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   when I did that it took me only about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:59   two weeks to get back to basically where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   I was and it also allowed me to type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:04   very slowly but it allowed me to quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   touch type on a Dvorak keyboard but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:11   a really slow pace i found that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   the only way I was able to to switch i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   not sure if i had if i try to do it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   different way I would have been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   stick with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:19   do you prefer dvorak to quality what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:24   you just switch back and forth third are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:27   the same reasons that you switch back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:28   and forth between my son trackpads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:32   etc okay well I don't really switch back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   and forth between quality and dvorak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   because on all on all of my devices i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:41   have it set up to be a Dvorak keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   so I like my laptop on my computer it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:46   a Dvorak keyboard when I worked in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   schools i was able to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   the the computers there they were able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   to just switch over to dvorak keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   which is by the way also an excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   great way to to stop having kids messing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   with your computer if you leave it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   few seconds of the keyboard is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   messed up from their perspective they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   can't type anything it's like it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   security feature i assume when you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   that you're changing in software but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   hardware keyboards to quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   yeah like i am talking to you right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12   and i am recording I i'm recording on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15   laptop today and my laptop has a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   qwerty keyboard in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:19   no just the regular 15 inch powerbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   and you can't change the keyboard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   there a book uh whatever your powerbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:26   running OSX yeah exactly who cares about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:30   this doesn't matter anymore iPads at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   yeah i know that i can get on board that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:36   not me i don't care whatever you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:39   your iBooks or something I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   whatever I see you can't change it in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   hardware you can just change it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   software and this this is where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   to know how to touch type so you'd if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   you're looking at the keyboard while you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   just you just a lock right you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   can't move around the physical keys on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:55   on most modern computers so it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:58   changed in software so when I worked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   school and I would log onto the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   their their windows computers were smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:07   enough that one of the saved preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   for me as a user was to swap around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   keyboard layout so that it was dvorak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   while i was typing but it didn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   that if anybody else try to type my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   computer they could take nothing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   is fantastic from my perspective I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   really enjoyed that so what do you do on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   iOS devices do you use qwerty keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:25   and they're doing so like third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   ok so i guess this is this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:31   closest it comes to switching which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:32   for the history of iOS you have had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:38   use the inbuilt system keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:43   whatever was last year two years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   they did add custom keyboards but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   did it in the most half-hearted way ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   and so they just don't really work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   can't really rely on them know there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53   some situations where i will happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:56   use them but it is extraordinarily rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:59   like oh thanks thanks Apple thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02   that check box feature that just totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03   doesn't work at all third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   keyboards yeah we have them never want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   to use them but we have them but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   actually never really found this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   problem and even when i got an iphone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   it didn't really cross my mind about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   that it was accordingly out versus a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   dvorak layout because when you're typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21   on your phone you're typing with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   thumb and especially when I first got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   iphone 4 which was the first iphone i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   had i was just typing with one thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   because the screen is so small and so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   brain treated this as just a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:38   different method of input like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   unrelated to touch typing this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   completely separate skill and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   learning how to type on an iphone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:49   for me I think the same experience that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   many people had when they got their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   first iphone of oh ok this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   different way of typing I have to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   learn how to type on this tiny screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:01   and then as time has progressed this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:05   one of the reasons why i use almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   exclusively the split keyboard on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:10   smaller iPads on the the not 12-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13   iPads because i am really used to typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:17   with my thumb's on an iOS device my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:21   brain just says this is the way to type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   on iOS there is no other way and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   no conflict here in my brain with dvorak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   for this it's just a totally totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   different system however my big ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   has brought something interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:39   light in my brain which is that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:42   knowledge of how to touch type with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   qwerty is still there it it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47   deeply buried in my brain in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:51   is surprising to me because as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:55   complained about when the ipad pro first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56   came out there is no split keyboard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   the ipad pro you can't do the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   where it goes into just some typing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   have to type with a big full keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:05   across the bottom and you can't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   around the letters you have to type with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11   a qwerty keyboard on there and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:12   very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   situations where for whatever reason I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   do end up typing on the glass instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   flipping around the keyboard cover that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   I do always have attached so sometimes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   type on the glass and what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   discovered is if I don't think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:27   i can totally touch-type quality but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:31   about one sentence of length and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:34   one sentence this thing happens when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   brain goes hey you touch typing on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:39   qwerty keyboard and grab for you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:42   overthinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   yeah right like my brain just totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47   crashes and then for a moment i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   type and what I have to do is going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   to looking at the keyboard and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55   typing like how I used to when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   little kid before I learned how to touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   type which was like this funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   that i did with three fingers instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00   like a regular one but this happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   everytime that if I don't think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   i can type for just a little bit but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   will totally notice it and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   just I can't I can't I just broke me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   doing this thing but as i find it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   funny it's like this there's some part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   of my brain which never forgot how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   this and was just waiting in waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   dormant for apparently an ipad pro to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   come around where i had to type with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   qwerty keyboard doesn't have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:25   those things that people say in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   like if birds could comprehend the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   that they fly they wouldn't be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:32   yeah you like that but with keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:35   yeah if you can comprehend quote that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   you called type anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:38   yeah yeah it's it's just a funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:42   and it makes me laugh every time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:43   it's one of those moments where you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   realize how strange brains are but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48   is this is just unexpected behavior one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   it is unexpected that after having not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   typed on a qwerty keyboard in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:58   like 13 to 15 years I can still do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:05   but then if i realize i'm doing it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   it doesn't work a crap out like how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   this work brain how does this make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   sense like how the answer is it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   make any sense because brains are weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   that's the that's the answer i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   told you this but i never want to touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:19   type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:19   oh yeah yeah so like I can do a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   typing without looking at the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23   but i will make mistakes and most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   time i will just glanced down every now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   and then to make sure I'm where I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29   to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   look I don't you know I don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   placement idea you know like we supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   to put your hands to rest easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   I don't know any of that I was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   taught it i think i was coming into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41   the first generation school where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   didn't teach typing hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:47   nobody like nobody i knows how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50   ok which is so weird because now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53   more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:54   ok do you mean that you were like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55   last generation to not be taught typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   is that what you mean yeah I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   okay you know i'm not sure I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:03   that sentence the same but it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   legit I am a generation who knew nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   but I think something typing yeah I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:11   that surprising given the age difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   between us since you are younger than me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   I would have assumed that someone your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:17   age would just learn touch typing is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   part of going through school could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   because when I did it was an elective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   that my parents just signed me up for ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   they decided that this is a skill you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:26   going to learn you just you just signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27   up for the typing class and I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30   at the time rejected the idea that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   need to go to typing class because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   very fast typing already with this three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   finger method that I that I use me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   looking at the keyboard and just typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   very fast and I don't need to learn how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   to touch type i can totally do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43   thing but I'm very I'm very glad that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   did learn how to touch type against my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   will as a younger as a younger person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   yes the i start to the fast three finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   method which i still use do you still do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:54   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:54   yeah like a bunch of a life every code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:57   is the same like a hunt and pecker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   oh really yep i think which is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02   like it oh we're generation where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   stopped and my understanding that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   that you don't typing doesn't exist in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   schools now i don't know if we have many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   listeners who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:11   in high school or secondary level but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:17   you are in high school and you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   the show I would be very curious if in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   the red you said if you like it do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:24   typing in schools or poor parents who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   have kids in school now like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   typing an official skill that that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   kids learn like touch typing I be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   curious to know and or do you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:36   yeah that's what I'm more interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37   about like to do you care if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40   how to touch type one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   up i was quite struck by when I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:48   was teaching and towards the later years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:52   of of my my limited teaching career all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   of the kids had either iphones or ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:59   touches that they were using as proxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   iphones you know they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   connected to the local school network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   and it was a way for parents to get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   touch and all the rest of this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   noticed that tons of the kids could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:11   this thing that I would not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12   believed was possible if I didn't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   which was typing on the screen without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:18   looking i can do that see this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   is younger person magic to me while but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23   the thing is though it's not accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   you are helped by auto correct right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   because but it doesn't matter right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   this is like of autocorrect is helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   or not it's it doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:32   difference to me is like a sure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   anybody says slightly I know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   what you're saying but like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37   different to touch typing in that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   is an assistant which is helping you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   with it but yeah it's still there still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42   an element of knowing the area in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   you have to hit your thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46   mm I tell you what I'm going to do I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   going to set up a Google Form oh yeah to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   try and find out this information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52   because this is interesting to me now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   like do you know how to touch type do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:58   hmm you know what kind of what age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2338">TS</a>]

00:38:59   bracket are you and can you type on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   screens about looking do you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   plans to learn so i'm going to set that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   up i put that in the show notes and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   we can we can assess the results of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08   next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:09   yeah i'll be i'll be very curious to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   it but where was coming with us though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   is that so I saw the kids doing this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17   i still remember i was asking was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20   one girl like you are you typing without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   looking at the screen and she said yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   I can totally like no approved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   to me like come up here right now like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   need to like and I was supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   doing physics but this is way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:29   interesting to me and so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   demonstrated like yes she could totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:32   do it she could look at me and type a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   coherent sentence like that's magic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   understand how you can do that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   cgpgrey the teacher would discover a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:41   child in class texting then bring her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:44   the front to find out something he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   whatever torque can wait i was the loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:51   you man was the load you but I went home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:56   to tell my wife this astounding piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   information to to me and discovered that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:02   she was surprised that i was surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   that people could do this because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05   is just what she did and she never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   thought about it right just never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:08   crossed your mind that this was a skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   of any note whatsoever and as iOS has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:16   become increasingly important in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:19   I went through a long time of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:23   learn how to type this way of very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   consciously like no I i will master this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:30   skill that children can do i will type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   and i will not look at the keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   i will look at what i am typing but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   just failed repeatedly i even went so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   far as I bought the program called like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44   called tap typing I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   pretty good typing tutor on iOS and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:50   blocked out a part of my schedule every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:53   day to do touch typing lessons with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:56   thumb keyboard on the iphone and with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   split keyboard on the ipad and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:04   could never ever get that skill it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08   just totally lost to me it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   totally unavailable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12   it's like trying to learn a language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   what as an older person for some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   my brain just was not able to pick that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:20   up so i just sent to you i just sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   and I message that I title about looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   always that what you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   uh-huh well aren't you aren't you clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:30   very clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31   this is this is not nearly as much proof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35   the girl who did it in front of me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   class like you just you just sent me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   message this is proof of nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   all you need to do is give me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:41   address of your office and I'll country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   know what can happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   let's try let's try Mike we decide how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:50   is the office going he still have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   this is an interesting point to ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:55   about this office because so this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   my writing monastery I've set up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   myself that we talked about a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   episodes ago through entirely my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:07   fault and and dumb mistakes there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   period of a week where I was locked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   of my own office because I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   a bill had been automatically paid when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   it had not been paid and it took awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   to get this sorted out but I was locked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:23   out of my office for a week and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:27   thought well okay i just have to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:30   around this i'm going to try to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   I normally do and go to different places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35   to work and just like I'll just I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   just get on with this and I know is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   man my writing ability just plummeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:44   that that this compared to having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:48   regular routine the regular routine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:51   increase the amount that i write every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   day and then not having access to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   area and trying to go back to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   the old way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:58   granted it's like disruptive but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   still really interesting to see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   okay this unintentional experiment has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   has revealed to me that unambiguously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   this writing office is totally worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:12   like without a doubt 100-percent worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:15   so yeah it's um I am able to declare it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:19   a success at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   good now but it's a success because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   just me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25   yeah just me nobody else no chairs for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:29   Mike you haven't tried out the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   of doing it like me and you it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:34   so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:35   I I mean that is true i have not tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:40   out having a mic in my office but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:44   think the data suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   that that is probably not a a fruitful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:49   area of exploration well you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   check my data cuz i have the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   result em done i'm sure you do Mike I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:58   sure you do on this show we're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   talking about side projects and ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   and things that we want to try and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05   days all of these things need your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   website and when you have a website you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   need a great two main name and finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   that perfect domain is ridiculously easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   with hover when all you're looking to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   is get a great domain name for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   website or email address you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   be forced page after page of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   you want to opt out of because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   companies trying to upsell you stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   that's why however only offers domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:27   and email services so you are able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   focus on finding that great domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   to get back to working on your great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   idea however also believes that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   should have to pay for things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   should already be included with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   domain that's why they give you who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   privacy for free with all of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   supported domains to keep your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44   information confidential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   most people have realized that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   register a domain name all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   contact information including your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51   address your phone number email address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   is published online for people to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   and it's all in the whois database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   however make sure that they keep your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   private information private by offering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   you who is privacy for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   find the perfect domain name for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:05   idea go to Harvard calm and use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08   promo code dvorak de VOR AKA check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:12   to save ten percent of your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   purchase thank you so much harder for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15   their support of this show and relay FM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   so you know the wheel that never stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:21   turning that we can never get off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   Mike what is the name of that wheel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   the wheel of email is the wheel of email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28   and email apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   yeah that is where is the wheel has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   stopped today only section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:38   so i have been using a new email app for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:43   a while and i want to talk about it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:48   two reasons one is that it's an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:53   app that I have hardly ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:58   recommended by anybody and 2i am totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:04   loving it so I want to give it a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07   bit of cortex love right i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10   promote it and tell people about it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:13   that if it sounds like it's for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14   they can go try it out because aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:19   from the Apple Mail app I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   used an email app that i am just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   immediately happy with and and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27   like and that email app is called uni [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:31   box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32   ok have you heard of uni box Mike I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35   think someone has sent it to me like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:39   the suggestion and I looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   screenshots and decided don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42   anything to do it so I don't think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:46   interested to see what you say because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   the reason I don't like it is it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   tries to me to look like it's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:54   email look like I message and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:57   ok making email look like I message is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:02   not necessarily a bad description but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05   here here is the way i would sell uni [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:09   box and I think there is some portion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   our audience when they hear how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:13   they will think yes i did not know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:16   I wanted this or I didn't know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:19   want this by just didn't know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:20   possible and here's the solution so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23   need boxes selling feature is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:27   groups all of the messages from a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:31   person together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   oh listen to that listen to that intake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:37   of breath from Mike listen to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   listen to that level in it I eat these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:43   moments for breakfast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46   Mike doesn't like this for his email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   tell me why you don't like this Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50   know that was a good intake of breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:54   Oh was it yeah I can't read you I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   need you at all you're like a sphinx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:58   I'll enigma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2878">TS</a>]

00:47:59   yeah exactly it's good as in this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:03   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04   I've never really considered this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   but I kind of like the sound of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09   ok so this came up because when i used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:15   to do email like so many things on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   imac very often i found it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:21   helpful to sort by sender there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   sometimes where you just want to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   like oh i know i have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:26   messages from one person let me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28   deal with them all together and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:31   thought that was always useful like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   was great but then on iOS there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36   nothing that really reproduces this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   seems like it is not an option in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   many email apps it's just isn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:44   can't tell mail dot apt to sort by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   sender you can't you can't do this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   not it's just not a thing that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   practical but what I really like is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:53   that uni box it's not that they allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:58   you to sort by sender it's that sort by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:01   sender is the only thing it does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:04   they have built the entire app around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:08   this idea and it's like oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:12   fantastic like this is this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16   so here conceptually is why you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:20   want to do this one of the things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   talked about in the show is mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   shifting right like what like what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   of work am i doing right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   what kind of work am i doing later you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   know what what mental frame are you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33   when you're performing a particular task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   and it is helpful to consolidate mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:39   frames into larger and larger chunks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   like this is just a more effective way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45   and within email one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:49   is often so frustrating about email is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:53   that it is this slew of who-knows-what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   like okay here is a message from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/2996">TS</a>]

00:50:00   parents here is a message from my lawyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   here is a newsletter from someplace that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:06   I signed up to a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   here's an automated message from my bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   right there's just these very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   different levels of things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   never know what's coming through but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:18   when it's all grouped together by sender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22   it's like there's less mode shifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25   that can occur and so for me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   particular one of the things that i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   it i can open up uni box and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32   say it makes it makes email look like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   message it's because on the side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   screen it does look quite like iMessage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   it looks like there's a list of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   people like you have an iMessage and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:46   the top is the person who has contacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   you the most recently and then as you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   down the list it's less and less recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:53   but the thing is if you click on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56   person at the top it will show you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   of the messages from that person in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:02   place and so I find it super helpful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:06   say like okay my lawyer has sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   something but when i click on that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:11   want to be able to see all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   messages from my lawyer that I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16   deal with right now and then it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   okay i am in the mode of dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   the kinds of questions this person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:23   going to ask and I can just go okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   reply reply reply in or for example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:28   my assistant send me a bunch of stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   click on her name and it's okay great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   here are the seven messages that she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35   sent me since the last time i looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   email and I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38   boom-boom-boom-boom-boom go through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   of these being in the mindset of i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:43   replying to her with answers to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   about questions that she needs I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   like we're just going to go through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:48   and then what's great is I really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   it for things like Amazon notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:55   Iraq amazon sends you messages about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:58   next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3118">TS</a>]

00:51:58   that you bought or whatever here's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:01   the building the app around the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:04   sender is fantastic because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   little gestures that you can do where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:09   you can say something like just archive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12   all of these messages from amazon just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   all of them at once and so what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   not doing is say answering a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   from your lawyer and then seeing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   receipt from amazon and then archiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   that one message from amazon and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   replying to a message from someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   and then again pops up amazon oh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:30   just archive this one to like no no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   just deal with all of them at once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   it is fantastic and i think it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   a really really interestingly designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   app and I have to say it's got to be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:46   of the most effective ways to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   through email especially with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49   little gestures where you can just deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   with centers all at once i'm a huge huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:55   fan of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   alright so let's say that i've sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   an email Monday an email Wednesday in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:03   email on Sunday and then you come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   this on sunday and you deal with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   sunday message what happens on monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   and wednesday messages cuz if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   grouped together by sender isn't it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   easy to just miss things because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   not in a thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17   ok there's a there's a weird little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:22   feature that it took me awhile to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25   out like with what the hell do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   me to do application and then once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   understood it was like oh ok fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32   so there's an iMessage list on the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:38   hand side of the screen where like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   said before you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41   archive all of these messages you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   swipe to the left and you can set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   whatever the gesture is like just send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   it all to archive right but if mike has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:50   sent me a bunch of messages on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:54   screen where I'm looking you the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   message that you sent me most recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59   let's say you sent me a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3239">TS</a>]

00:53:59   yesterday that's up at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   the app has this like hidden feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   that was tricky to figure out but if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   reply to your message i can then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:12   swype just on the subject of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   message and perform whatever actions i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:18   want to from their kind of what i can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   is swipe on the subject and I've set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   up so like if I just swipe right it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   archive the message i have just replied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   2 and then it immediately pulls up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29   next most recent message that you sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   me so just collapse the threads together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   so like if we're talking about one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:37   and we've got five emails going back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   forth does it keep those together in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   like one smaller windows you can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   see that there's other stuff hiding in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46   alright so now if we have if we have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   a threaded messages when replying has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   the same subject line it keeps all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:53   those together and it collapses it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56   visually on screen and there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59   like a little arrow button on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   that you can click to expand the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   thread if you need to but you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07   the most recent thing for the thread at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08   the top and if you just start scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   down you can work your way backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   through the thread so it keeps threaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   conversations together and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   perform these swipe gestures on a thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:19   as a bunch if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:23   does that make sense you're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:27   me do that thing now where I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   enter in five email account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:33   alright sounds interesting this isn't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:37   a different take on email that intrigues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:41   me enough that i want to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   yeah what this reminds me of is when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   had our conversation about email apps a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:47   while ago i mentioned i believe was male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:51   pilot to was one of these apps where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:55   don't remember the details now but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56   feeling was they have designed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   around doing email in a different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   and if your mind is lined up with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:05   way of dealing with email you're totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   going to love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:09   but that it wasn't for me but it was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:12   of those after i could see like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:13   doing email differently and I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16   need a box is made might not be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:19   extreme but it's along those lines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:23   you're thinking about this a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   differently you're thinking about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   terms of senders and dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:30   senders very quickly and having this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:33   customizable swiping gestures that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:37   different for like the everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:40   this person has sent or just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   current message and/or thread that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:43   you're dealing with but if you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   your mind wrapped around that it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48   really really recommend it I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:52   it's it's it's a very interesting take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55   on it and it is it is very well done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   yes I think that it is worth it for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:01   to put in all of your email apps can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:04   also mention i have to mention they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   one of the cleverest monetization things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:10   I have ever seen in terms of in-app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   purchases so the app itself is free to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:16   try you can use it but if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:20   remove the signature that says sent with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23   uni box genius then you have to buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:27   in-app purchase to remove that signature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   as a pro feature I pot that was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:33   clever when I saw that I thought this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   just it made me smile like that yes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39   is the exact perfect place for an in-app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42   purchase to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   that's if I want to use this thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   free I need to give you free promotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   on every email that I send if I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   want to i can pay you money and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   unlock this feature like that why i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55   that get that gets the cgpgrey award for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:59   cleverest in-app purchase of 2016 so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:02   I thought it was just fantastic just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   do anything wear it like a period alpha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07   everywhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:08   no it does not okay right this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   this is also a thing that i like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   doesn't have crazy custom folders good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   it's not doing custom imap crap it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   just straight-up you have on inbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:21   you have an archive and you have a spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   folder and that's the only thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:23   cares about is not doing any custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:26   alright so I've just loaded up my relief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29   my email address into univox who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   doing something that I considered to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   horrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34   ok what is it what is it doing every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   email sent in a long list so i'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:40   like everybody I don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   everybody I wanted to see what I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   dealt with like that is uncomfortable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:52   ok listener would you just missed my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   credit i'm going to assume that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   put in like a little little transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57   sound or something but would you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   missed was a fascinating moment of Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:04   and I trying to debug some setting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:08   I'd must have changed but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:09   remember that Mike didn't have when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   set up his uni box email for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   time and so we've saved you listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16   all of that horror and here is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   setting that I changed which I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:20   even remember that i did but in settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:24   for uni box there's a thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   called groups and they have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:29   magic uni box and I disabled their magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:34   uni box exactly what that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   I don't know i don't remember i must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:38   turn that off because I didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   and now mike is using this the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42   want him to use this so if you dear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:46   listener load of beauty box and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   seeing emails from everybody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:51   whole world that you have ever contacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:52   you want to turn off muni box and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:56   you will just have messages from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:59   who have contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   who have contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   did you that are also in your inbox okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   Mike now that we're here how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   this is really weird it is it is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:10   weird it's so super weird that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   know how when i first downloaded this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   stuck with it at first because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   see there's a lot of very strange things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   right off the bat but i love it it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:24   with that you stuck with this because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:28   is strange and I'm surprised you had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   tolerance for there's one thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33   don't like about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:37   it seems that you can't swipe on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40   group of the person to market message as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   read or unread and I don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45   ok you have to go into the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:48   message to do that which is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   weird choice and I'm looking in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:53   website things this is probably also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   going to come out by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:59   another example of a thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   weird that I remember being my deepest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   frustration with it when i was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:05   use it was in the settings there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:09   level that is called swipes and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:13   what I was talking about before with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:14   gestures where you can swipe to archive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:17   all of the message from a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   Center when you tap on the swipes option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   it gives you two sub-options one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:26   which is contacts and one of which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   messages and the this is what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:33   to understand to make this work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   was so confused with is that you can set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:39   different swipe gestures for the list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:43   people that you see on the left-hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   side that is what they're calling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   contacts swipes and then you can set a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:52   separate list of gestures for swiping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:57   the title the subject of a message that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:01   you are currently looking at and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04   you can arrange those however you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:07   and so the way i have it is so that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10   can just swipe on the name of a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:14   on the left-hand side and say archive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16   all of the messages from them but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19   also set it up so that i can swipe on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:22   the subject of a message that i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   looking at to immediately reply to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:28   message but it's it's weird and it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:31   awhile to get set up and talking through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34   mike for all of the stuff that you dear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   listener have been spared it's reminding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:39   me that like yes it took a while for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40   to figure out what this app wanted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   now it seems so natural i totally forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   all of the painful playing around part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   with it and I've been trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   accelerate Mike past that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:52   so like one of the things I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:53   struggling with is the choices that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   make in the swipes lake on contacts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58   can choose to mark a message as read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   live asswipe but it won't let you market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:05   again as unread you have to do that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   the message i do see that you cannot add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:10   a mark as unread message and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:13   it's like why but like they have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   in specific way of doing it is is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:18   I'm getting from this is that this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20   just likes to do things in a strange and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:24   kind of weird way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   yeah and this is what i'm looking at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:31   seeing that this is a different way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   doing email to all of your email in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:36   app now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:37   alright i have a funny workflow you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40   a fun who is going to try to avoid this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   but this since you have brought this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   i guess i have to talk through this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:47   the the what I always regard as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:50   absolute killer feature of mail that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:53   no way to get around it for me as is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:57   really two things it's VIPs and alerts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   from particular threads no other email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:03   app seems to have this and and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   have it doesn't work in the way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:06   needed to the ability to mark a contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:11   as a VIP and have that person be pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:14   out as into a separate inbox from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:17   everybody else is invaluable to me so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   have a ton of people marked as VIPs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   it is also really valuable that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   changed their email in their contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:26   hard like Apple just knows it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   person they're still a VIP I really wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:31   they would add VIP domains that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:34   say everybody who sent a message from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   this domain is a VIP but that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:37   that's a that's a small feature right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   the VIP thing is valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   I cannot possibly leave it so this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   current workflow when I am triaging my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47   email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48   step 1 I go to uni box and I look for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:52   I tap on her name and I can answer all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:55   of her messages because she is top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   the triage priority list once i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   cleared her messages then I go over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   mail dot app and I start working my way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   through the VIPs because these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:09   people i have marked that I want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   pulled above the masses of emails that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   get largely from people that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   know or just newsletters are all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   of other stuff and so I do spend a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   of time in mail because VIP message is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22   almost by definition require a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   time and attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   to reply to because they're important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   things to work through the VIPs and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:31   this is where you need a box really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   shines because after I've gone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   the VIPs and I switch back to uni box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38   now a huge portion of the emails that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:43   are left over our automated messages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:47   some kind like things that I need to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50   but I don't necessarily want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   mixed in with the regular messages when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   I'm going through them and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   second time of going to uni box is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:59   very different mental framework it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   like that will all i want to do is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:03   want to clear an archive most of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   stuff because the chance that i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   to reply to almost any of these messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   is very very low and anything that i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:13   going to reply to there's a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   chance that what it is is that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   should really be a VIP and in my system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   and so like when i get my messages from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:23   hover about there's a domain that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   going to be renewing sometime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   it's great because I say like oh fer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   sent me a bunch of messages like i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:30   click on it I can just quickly scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   through and see ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:33   everything looked great with all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34   various domains they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35   archive these 10 messages done right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   just move on to the next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   oh here's everything I bought from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   amazon like quick swipe through yet all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   looks great fine no problem archive done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   and so that is that is my flow its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:48   unique box to pull out my assistant then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51   go to mail dot app clear VIPs then go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:55   uni box and try to just get through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   rest of it as soon as possible but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   need boxes a fantastic tool for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   fantastic you have given me two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03   today uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4023">TS</a>]

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01:14:38   that's in the office able to be prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   really easily so i can just head right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:43   in make the tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:44   it's on the desk and just immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   start getting to work and that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   that has been very successful for me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:53   I guess 30 minutes 45 minutes that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:55   answer that's really what they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:56   know yeah I'm not necessarily envious of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:59   that like it sounds nice but like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:00   my morning routine you know because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:03   is the idea of like I checked those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:04   things immediately but then i take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   nice break all have breakfast I'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   down and watch like a YouTube video ye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10   breakfast you know and I get into my day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:13   that way and so you know that that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:16   well for me I just up with the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:19   I work and this is going to change for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:20   you man I'm telling you like even six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:23   months time one of the first thing first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   things you need to do in the morning is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   to just make sure that everybody's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:28   now now it's never gonna happen to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:31   that the mark this point dear listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:34   now that's never gonna happen that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   happen autumn space asked how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   calculate publicity in your magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:42   spreadsheets when thinking about paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   gigs like talks and keynotes and events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:47   and things like that since they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:48   they're asking about spreadsheets I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50   assume that they're not really asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:51   you you don't have you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:52   spreadsheet to track things do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:53   I was even just just just for linking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:57   purposes ever i was going to link to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59   episode on the e-myth revisited which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:03   you just recently put up on YouTube and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   was going to send that out in a tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:06   and I loaded up that I happened to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:08   that there was a section in there where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10   we were discussing how you had it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:13   your project list to make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:16   spreadsheets so that you could evaluate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:17   what your hourly time per project was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20   yep and you said all we're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:21   to that soon i'm going to get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:22   soon but that what this is now a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   doing almost half a year ago and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   define soon I never define soon besides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   I want to like has there been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   has there been any motion on this no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:33   know what actually I think needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:34   happen is that you just need to help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:37   so look at whenever that will happen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   when that will get done because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:40   even know where to begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:41   ok deal that that's total deal I i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:44   i will help you with that Mike thank ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:47   we will meet up at some point and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   talk about how how to do that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:51   practical way so I'll help I'll help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:53   feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:53   thank you it's even think you worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   about anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:56   well the thing is it's it's not a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4616">TS</a>]

01:17:00   not something I ever really worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:03   about the gap in my experience has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:07   always been that any notion of publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:09   is over-rated unless you are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:15   achieve something very specific so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:19   gives you are if you are let's say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21   have made a new app that is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:24   a new platform you want all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:27   publicity in the world because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   you're trying to do is attract an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31   enormous number of users and as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:35   mentioned before there are things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:36   Network effects if you can get even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   a little bit ahead it can matter a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   amount later on there are narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42   sections of the world where publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:46   genuinely matters but even though i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:50   i have found myself this reluctance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:53   public ish figure on the internet I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:58   have never thought that this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4678">TS</a>]

01:17:59   publicity matters for the kind of career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:03   that I want to have and so my feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:06   has always been like well my very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:09   video the UK video I was a nobody when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:13   uploaded it and lots of people watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:15   it because they liked it and it was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:17   and it was shareable and so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:21   think if I went out and took all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:25   gigs that people offer me for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:28   I don't think that would affect my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:29   youtube business hardly at all like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   think people think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   relationship between those two but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   relationship is very small just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:38   actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:38   just like we we discussed before people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:41   overvalue followers on social media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43   where they think like oh wow look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46   those Twitter followers when that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   tweets out a link so many people must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:49   click it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:50   no they don't like it doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   have nearly as much of an effect as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:54   people think it does and i imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   publicity for me would be the same kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:59   of thing like would have would have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01   effect would have a nonzero effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:05   yes but is it worth my time pursuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:08   publicity which I don't want for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:10   personally anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   would the time spent pursuing that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   working on any publicity gigs on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:17   spreadsheet payoff in terms of greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:20   numbers of subscribers or larger numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22   of use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:23   I really don't think so and I have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:26   anecdotal data from let's say people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:29   know who have done extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:32   high-profile publicity things and it get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:37   affects the youtube channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:38   none like it you would never know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   doesn't seem to make any real difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:41   I don't have anything that factors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:44   publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:45   I think it's overvalued what I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   is is what I just discussed before is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:48   that I have a a crystal clear idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:52   what my time is worth on various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:55   projects and so when anybody comes to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:59   with the idea like oh we would like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:00   to work on this but this project or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   here's a here's a talk that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   give somewhere here's the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:05   could do i'm evaluating it in purely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:09   terms of how much would my time be worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:13   like what is the opportunity cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   going to this event and are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:18   covering more than the opportunity cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   of of working on another YouTube video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22   and so I don't do a lot of public events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:26   because the amounts offered usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   don't cover the opportunity cost that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:31   it's almost always better to spend my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:34   time working on a video that people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:36   like then it is to spend my time we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:40   preparing for a talk at a public event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42   anything published related for me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:47   the main kind of barometers do wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:51   this is something I want to do ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53   conference talk right it's not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:56   gonna make a massive difference to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:57   bottom line but do I want to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4857">TS</a>]

01:21:00   like I've turned down same as you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:03   I've turned down paid speaking gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:04   because the ages it didn't excite me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:07   enough time and wasn't worth the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:08   of time it would take but I also accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:11   them and I like to do them when a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:14   of things are line for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:16   yeah yeah yeah to be clear there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:19   difference for things that are fun or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:23   interesting or have some kind of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   opportunity but that's that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:28   different from a just straight up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:29   publicity kind of move ya like that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:33   am with you on that like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:34   events that i have gone to there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:36   events that i will go to that I am doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:38   not because like I am desirous of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:40   publicity but because it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:43   interesting event to go and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:44   personally want to go right or there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:48   interesting people there or it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:50   just be a fun thing to do but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   that's a very different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:54   calculation than that like a publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:56   calculation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:57   yeah i like and i think that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4917">TS</a>]

01:22:00   with these types of things along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:01   stickers if you there are always going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:05   to be things that you will want to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:06   attend because it's gonna be fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08   moving there's a lot of my feelings with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:10   stuff like that as long as I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:11   losing money as long as there's a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:14   for me to like make the money back or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:15   make it work financially then i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:18   to go for it you know who and by he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:21   what is your protein bar of choice who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:25   asking the hard-hitting questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:28   protein bar of choice within within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:31   arm's reach I can lean back in my chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:33   back in my chair I can grab several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:38   boxes of protein bars in fact within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:42   arm's reach I have something like 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:45   protein bars in little boxes so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:48   more than unique you need that about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   one-time ok no but it's only because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:53   these are within within hands reach that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:55   happen to be on the on the counter in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:58   kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4978">TS</a>]

01:22:59   there is one cabinets which is filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   entirely with protein bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03   I don't know there's gonna be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:06   hundred hundred fifty protein bars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:07   there I don't know how long do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:08   things lost they last forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:11   ok and still you don't need that many at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13   one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:14   well here's the thing West is the brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:16   that I like and they make a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:20   different flavors and there happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:22   be a little bit of an oversupply right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   now because they've changed a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:25   the recipes and I am trying out a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:29   of the different flavors and i am also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:32   i'm also getting ready for some summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:37   travels I have a lot of summer traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   ahead of me a bunch of family stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   i'm going to go to some occult xmas the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:44   summer court xmas where we will not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:46   recording the show because yes cortex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:50   mrs. the holiday that comes four times a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   year twice and Amelia coming up this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:55   summer and whenever I go travelling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5035">TS</a>]

01:24:00   want to make sure that I have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:03   protein bars to cover the length of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:06   travel so i can get by with two protein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:12   bars in a day if I have to if there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   no acceptable food options or if I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17   don't want to eat like a regular meal so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:21   for example when a couple years ago now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:23   i did that random acts of intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:24   showdown in Alabama a big part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:28   suitcase was loaded up with protein bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:31   because I wanted to be able to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   meal covered for every meal for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:36   duration of the week or so that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:38   down there I had this suitcase filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:41   with various protein bars so that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:43   would always know there was food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:44   available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:45   why would you consider to have one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   every meal available because i like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:50   plan for the worst case scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   who knows what the food situation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   going to be like not me you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56   that that's over planning I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:58   that is is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:00   eda yeah well here's the thing turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:03   in Alabama everything is delicious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:05   absolutely everything is fantastically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:08   delicious in Alabama and I wanted to eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:12   six meals a day in Alabama of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:15   mmm yummy breakfast food i'm gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   breakfast i'm gonna have second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:18   breakfast is going to be elevenses then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20   you roll around like a lunchtime this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22   fantastic too so I i did not did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:25   need all the protein bars that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:26   there but because i am often traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:29   on standby trips for example I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:33   always know precisely when my leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   date is going to be this is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   reason why I really like to over pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39   and it totally worked out for my last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:43   trip to amsterdam when I overpacked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   protein bars but i ended up staying much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:48   longer and really one of the prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:50   reasons that i left amsterdam when i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:52   was i was finally out of protein bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:54   for lunch was like oh ok well i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:57   have to go now I'm not gonna find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   substitute lunch like this is just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:00   i'm going to eat so so I left but yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:03   quest protein bars I i highly recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:07   them and they are perhaps the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:11   protein bar that I have ever eaten that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:13   is genuinely a replacement meal like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:18   I've come across a lot of these protein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:19   bars like oh you can eat one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   and you will be hungry again lies total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   lies but these these really work like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:27   lot however made you try one Mike I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28   can't remember we had a conversation on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:31   the phone after an episode of cortex I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   think it was the episode where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:34   dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:35   uh-huh remember and I I the bagel and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:38   really loopy don't really know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40   going with sound familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:41   all that happened and then we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:44   talking about quest protein bars we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   talking about the fact that different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   people like different flavors and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50   people might want to think it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:52   and somebody else will think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:54   disgusting and then you said you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   bring me some to try and you never did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:58   no okay must've just forgotten about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:01   but yes that is definitely in my case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:04   with the quest bars is if you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:07   your hands on a variety pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:09   you should try the variety pack because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:11   my universal experiences that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:14   have really strong reactions to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   various flavors that they either like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:17   them or they think they are like poison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:19   and so if you try one and you think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   quest protein bar it tastes like poison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:23   you need to just try a different one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:25   it's something about the way their made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27   people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:28   these these very very strong reactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30   to them but i guess that did I promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:34   you that thing it doesn't sound like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:35   thing I promise you did he said the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37   time we may I will bring a selection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   them so you can try them and I said okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   I'll look forward to it and that Dana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   became okay well the next time we meet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:46   will bring a selection of them so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:47   can try them i have not literally no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   faith in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:50   I I don't see why you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBkimEXg/5270">TS</a>]