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Cortex 7: Ultimately a Nightmare

 

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00:00:13   tired so I apologize to listen to him a little bit off my game today but I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/13">TS</a>]

00:00:18   recently flown from london to the United States to visit some family so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/18">TS</a>]

00:00:23   currently recording from a remote location in North Carolina using some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/23">TS</a>]

00:00:29   duplicate equipment that I had stashed here but yes I have just recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/29">TS</a>]

00:00:33   changed many time zones and I'm feeling a bit light headed and off in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/33">TS</a>]

00:00:39   that I always do whenever I change time zones so yes that's why I feel the need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/39">TS</a>]

00:00:43   to apologize to listeners straight out of the gate this morning I booked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/43">TS</a>]

00:00:48   traveled on flights for a conference I'm going to in October and i'm looking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/48">TS</a>]

00:00:54   be there for four days and I looked at the kind of the times I'm flying in from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/54">TS</a>]

00:00:58   coming home and realizing how horrible it's gonna be where is this conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/58">TS</a>]

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00:01:09   have to stay awake until the evening will leave at like 10 a.m. here and 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/69">TS</a>]

00:01:14   hour flight and then I have to maybe do a kind of a five or six hours a week so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/74">TS</a>]

00:01:18   I can live with that but the flight coming home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   arrived back in England at 6 a.m. and it's like well I now know that I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/80">TS</a>]

00:01:25   useless for days after the yes I know those arriving early in London flights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/85">TS</a>]

00:01:31   and you just you just have to write off the next week I'm going to be a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/91">TS</a>]

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00:01:43   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/103">TS</a>]

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00:01:49   the coast that is but what makes this worse though maybe better to look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/109">TS</a>]

00:01:54   I'm also gonna be in Portland in September so I can't think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/114">TS</a>]

00:01:58   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/118">TS</a>]

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00:02:09   yes just really will go off the air for two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/129">TS</a>]

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00:02:27   would it was like well ok I know you've only slept for one hour but its a.m. now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/147">TS</a>]

00:02:32   see you have to to get up and go to work but now it's like just sleep until 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/152">TS</a>]

00:02:38   p.m. you lazy bum is no one stopping me like that was something I had recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/158">TS</a>]

00:02:46   when I came back from the states in just one day I just fell asleep at two in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/166">TS</a>]

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00:02:57   talked last time about how I always think that I'm going to do those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/177">TS</a>]

00:03:01   tutorial videos for the video games that I play and when I take the flight back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/181">TS</a>]

00:03:06   from London and I usually arrive early in the morning every time I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/186">TS</a>]

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00:03:14   because that's the most reasonable thing to do sure I've been up all night and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/194">TS</a>]

00:03:18   on an uncomfortable airplane but it would if I can just stay up all day when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/198">TS</a>]

00:03:22   I arrived at 6 a.m. then I'll be right back into the swing of things tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/202">TS</a>]

00:03:26   and without fail at some point during the day I slipped into unconsciousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/206">TS</a>]

00:03:31   without even being aware of its wake up in the middle of the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/211">TS</a>]

00:03:36   wide awake in London it's just it never fails that I hope again always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/216">TS</a>]

00:03:40   overestimate myself let go this time I really will stay awake how how often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/220">TS</a>]

00:03:44   have we ever done this brain oh never never is how often we've done this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/224">TS</a>]

00:03:48   this time it will be different this time we really will stay awake so yes I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/228">TS</a>]

00:03:53   always planned my going back around around jet lag but there's this this we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/233">TS</a>]

00:03:58   will talk about it more I think next time but this whole trip of mine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   there are many more flights coming which I'm not looking forward to this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/241">TS</a>]

00:04:05   the beginning of many more flights and many more visits in America so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/245">TS</a>]

00:04:09   there will be much jet lag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10   said that next week with a little bit more about traveling generalizing yes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/250">TS</a>]

00:04:17   we had we had some follow-up there was a surprising amount of follow-up related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/257">TS</a>]

00:04:22   to let's play video gaming there was more follow-up about the let's play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/262">TS</a>]

00:04:27   videos than it was about the email section which was very surprising to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/267">TS</a>]

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00:04:53   very often people are discussing some part that I thought was incidental but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/293">TS</a>]

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00:05:24   episode we should have some kind of let's play segment of the show every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/324">TS</a>]

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00:06:06   some good video game suggestions you should go to the thread for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/366">TS</a>]

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00:06:47   what they produce and you might take issue with the fact that society values [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   of football coach more than a laureate but the fact of the matter is there more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/410">TS</a>]

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00:07:10   of dollars a year but it's where the audiences and it's what people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/430">TS</a>]

00:07:14   interested in so that's kind of yeah it is a good point about the relative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/434">TS</a>]

00:07:20   audience size because yes he's making millions of dollars a year but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/440">TS</a>]

00:07:24   hundreds of millions of intense video game fans worldwide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/444">TS</a>]

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00:07:45   gone so much from becoming far from being a kid pastime to now being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/465">TS</a>]

00:07:53   acceptable part of mainstream culture and its it is it is a powerful force to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/473">TS</a>]

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00:08:06   that uses up lots of people's time and isn't it interesting that he liked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/486">TS</a>]

00:08:13   have seen that that change over my lifetime that now people like my age who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/493">TS</a>]

00:08:19   grew up playing Nintendo Super Nintendo it like well we're now adults and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/499">TS</a>]

00:08:24   have money to spend and leisure time that we want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/504">TS</a>]

00:08:28   use and it's all contributing to this enormous video game economy and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31   how I still sometimes catch myself feeling like video games are a marginal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/511">TS</a>]

00:08:37   part of the culture but they are long long past that now and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/517">TS</a>]

00:08:42   partly why PewDiePie is an interesting intersection in that it feels like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/522">TS</a>]

00:08:46   can there be so many people watching him play video games and like all right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/526">TS</a>]

00:08:51   like asking how can there be so many people who watch movies like it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/531">TS</a>]

00:08:55   huge part of the world now but it but I think that I can still sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/535">TS</a>]

00:09:01   underestimate that because it was it was not like that when I was a kid there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/541">TS</a>]

00:09:05   were no adults who played video games when I was a kid i mean it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/545">TS</a>]

00:09:10   hollywood had a great comparison because the debates economic seem to match up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13   lake there are the blockbusters which everybody waves right like Call of Duty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/553">TS</a>]

00:09:18   for example there are like middle of the road stuffed a bunch of Cindy things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/558">TS</a>]

00:09:23   every small fraction dude its place and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   yes very with the movie industry really interest me and I think they also match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/566">TS</a>]

00:09:30   in a way that unlike the world of literature most games have to be multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/570">TS</a>]

00:09:37   people projects and you can't make a movie with just one person and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/577">TS</a>]

00:09:43   vast bulk of games except for the smallest of small indie projects like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/583">TS</a>]

00:09:47   you have to have a team of people working on it is I think that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   interesting Lee comparable industries in a bunch of waves I totally get why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/590">TS</a>]

00:09:55   people get upset that it's like you know such and such person is doing a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/595">TS</a>]

00:10:01   important thing trying to teach people were trying to help you manage it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   doesn't make any money but it's kinda just like well what can you do that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/604">TS</a>]

00:10:09   isn't the amount of people out there to give that scientists the money so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/609">TS</a>]

00:10:16   like for as long as the public perception of his long as a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/616">TS</a>]

00:10:20   people in the world want to listen to a PewDiePie says he deserves the money was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/620">TS</a>]

00:10:24   given time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/624">TS</a>]

00:10:24   yeah and I used to be one of these guys as well I remember a younger version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/624">TS</a>]

00:10:30   me would be really frustrated with situations like why does the football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   team get so much funding and the library doesn't and i think is I've gotten older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/633">TS</a>]

00:10:39   I've become more accepting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   of those situations and realizing oh right of course that to a university or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/641">TS</a>]

00:10:46   to a school football team is actually quite valuable public relations asset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/646">TS</a>]

00:10:53   and it draws a lot of it is not how valuable you think it is it's it's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/653">TS</a>]

00:10:59   valuable it is to the wider audience of people who have vastly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/659">TS</a>]

00:11:04   preferences than just you and so I guess I like books and I like the library but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/664">TS</a>]

00:11:10   a school or university isn't necessarily a signing funding based entirely on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/670">TS</a>]

00:11:15   preferences or entirely on the likes of the super long term value of what a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/675">TS</a>]

00:11:23   my read in a library and then what happens fifty years down the road it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26   like the football team is an asset now in a in a very tangible very tangible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/686">TS</a>]

00:11:32   way so yeah I i I have relaxed about this but I used to get wound up over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/692">TS</a>]

00:11:37   exact same kind of things why are in scientists paid more and why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   celebrities paid enormous amounts of money and I think I said last time it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/700">TS</a>]

00:11:46   might want the situation where scientists who think I'm arguably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/706">TS</a>]

00:11:51   contribute more to the long-term value of society than people who make movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/711">TS</a>]

00:11:56   you might want them to get paid more but but one thing that is is a bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/716">TS</a>]

00:12:04   fight fighting the laws of physics I'm I want gravity to be stronger or weaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/724">TS</a>]

00:12:08   but it doesn't it doesn't matter I can rail against that all day and nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/728">TS</a>]

00:12:13   nothing is going to change that if you were looking at market forces it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/733">TS</a>]

00:12:19   hard to move those things around so I wanted to address some email stuff with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/739">TS</a>]

00:12:23   you today we're doing this again you were doing this again I'm not finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/743">TS</a>]

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00:12:35   email the kids you you you instigate in a new topic suggestions but I'll come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/755">TS</a>]

00:12:42   back to in a moment but for some reason then received via email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/762">TS</a>]

00:12:46   every single suggestion that anybody sent you will happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/766">TS</a>]

00:12:50   back up from here we discussed last time how many email was not working very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/770">TS</a>]

00:12:56   for me and I made the point which i think for many of the things that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/776">TS</a>]

00:13:05   engaged enough they don't believe in the notion of just trying harder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/785">TS</a>]

00:13:09   something isn't working I believe very much and trying to change the system so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/789">TS</a>]

00:13:14   that you get more of the results that that you want and so I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   about this cuz it we did that last episode because he had come to a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/797">TS</a>]

00:13:21   head as a problem for me and i was thinkin ok what can I what can I do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/801">TS</a>]

00:13:25   try to stem mclean change some of this stuff and so one of the things I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/805">TS</a>]

00:13:30   was I get a lot of emails from people who are just ultimately they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/810">TS</a>]

00:13:34   suggesting topics to me so that ok is there a way that I can pull this out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/814">TS</a>]

00:13:40   you mail into a different format that is maybe easier for people to use and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/820">TS</a>]

00:13:47   easier for me to receive and so I thought ok I played around a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/827">TS</a>]

00:13:51   and I realized I could use Google has an option where you can set up forms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/831">TS</a>]

00:13:57   people can fill out and then it adds the the information they have filled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/837">TS</a>]

00:14:01   into a spreadsheet in Google Docs so that ok great I'll say this about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/841">TS</a>]

00:14:05   website not just trial it out I'll just see how this goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/845">TS</a>]

00:14:09   so on my website now if you go to whatever is the topic suggestions page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/849">TS</a>]

00:14:12   there's a link somewhere on the site there's a single line where it says what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/852">TS</a>]

00:14:16   would you like CGP grey to make a video about and just a little space for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   to write something in and they can hit submit and then that goes into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   spreadsheet for me and I was looking at the results as I was testing out that ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/862">TS</a>]

00:14:27   this is actually way more useful to me because I can look at this much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/867">TS</a>]

00:14:33   quickly because people don't feel the need to wrap their topic suggestion in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/873">TS</a>]

00:14:38   lot of paragraphs of other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/878">TS</a>]

00:14:41   wearing an email that I get some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   ultimately a topic suggestion there's a little bit of a warm up and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/882">TS</a>]

00:14:46   a little bit of a goodbye in that email where is here now it's like ok great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/886">TS</a>]

00:14:50   just written two or three words about what you want the thing to be so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   go through this much faster I can look at it and it's much more comprehensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/893">TS</a>]

00:14:58   much more quickly and I'm also not changing moods like I mentioned last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/898">TS</a>]

00:15:03   time with the email it's like i'm looking at the spreadsheet and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   looking at topic suggestions in this is the thing that I'm doing I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/905">TS</a>]

00:15:09   receiving topic suggestions in between a whole bunch of other stuff so all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/909">TS</a>]

00:15:14   this was fine and dandy and I thought oh great this is working to perfect and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/914">TS</a>]

00:15:18   went away for a while and I came back a few hours later and discovered that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/918">TS</a>]

00:15:22   had not realized that while I was sitting there really chuffed with myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/922">TS</a>]

00:15:27   for how clever I was the solution everyone does say that I came back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/927">TS</a>]

00:15:35   open my email and I panic from my email and I saw the little one red badge zip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/935">TS</a>]

00:15:41   up to something over a thousand messages I thought what what the heck is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/941">TS</a>]

00:15:45   what happened I look at my email inbox and sure enough I didn't realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/945">TS</a>]

00:15:49   the default setting was not only to add the topic suggestion to the spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/949">TS</a>]

00:15:54   but also to email me the topics and so I had gotten over the course of a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/954">TS</a>]

00:15:59   hours now and emails dumped into my email inbox all of which were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/959">TS</a>]

00:16:06   copies of what I had already been looking at in the spreadsheet in seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09   how everything was was going like this is exactly the opposite of what I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/969">TS</a>]

00:16:14   luckily it was a relatively quick fix to take care of that to tell the tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/974">TS</a>]

00:16:18   suggestion box please stop emailing me and also to clear all of those out in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/978">TS</a>]

00:16:24   in a systematic way because they were all very similar it's easy to pull them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27   pull them apart but it was an unwelcome surprise and not not what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/987">TS</a>]

00:16:33   expecting and I was I was very much worried about my email inbox your heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/993">TS</a>]

00:16:37   got a little weak that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/997">TS</a>]

00:16:40   making email better to know you have made it worse than you can ever imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:46   yes but but overall I am happy with this change will have instituted and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:52   definitely an improvement so far so this is this is a little piece of changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:58   the system not simply telling myself oo go through emails even faster and harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:03   than I ever have before so I like the way this is working right now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:08   spreadsheet so so good thing you can give to someone be like things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:12   duplicates remover things on just never gonna touch and then tell me what's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:17   what's good in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   oh yeah there are many things that you can do with this many things you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:22   with it when it's now data in a format and i actually I was just looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:27   through it to get a sense of what people were saying but you can also do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   something like oh let me just run a word frequency analysis on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:33   to get a sense of overall what are the things that are people talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:37   here there are just a very many options for for this now in a way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:42   couldn't do that easily with email and alongside this you've also instituted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:47   new contact City be great page website which has a little forum on it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:53   clearly a novel way for you to try and make some sort of change to email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:59   yes exactly so I have also set up a form that people can fill out which is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:04   email form now so we can put in their name and they can put in their email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:07   address and write a little message and this does not go to me this goes to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:13   personal assistant who is then filtering and dealing with the use as they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:19   coming in and we're figuring out now you know how does this work and what exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:23   the rules are going to be but yes this is a way to take off some burden of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:29   contact from me and to try to have somebody else whole out actionable stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:35   and summarize it for me so this is this is a relatively new and we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:39   trying this out but you seemed a little bit insecure the copyright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:44   that you were a little bit not sure about this so here's the part where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:51   just almost impossible not to sound like a self-important douchebag where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1131">TS</a>]

00:19:01   you're trying to do things that are conflicting I am attempting in one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:07   to make it easier for people to reach me because this is the alternative to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:13   email has gone into an endless black hole that I will never look at right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:17   now so in this way there it's easier because yes an actual person will look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:21   at look at your email but at the same time in trying to make something easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:26   it is also there's no way to get around the fact that I'm setting up a barrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:31   is well like it's not going directly to me it's going to another person who may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:37   then pass it on to me or may respond to you directly and so is trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:43   out how to write the copy on this page of being honest about what this is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:49   you're not sending me an email directly it's going to my assistant but without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:53   sounding like oh I'm so bored and I can't read your email but please send me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:58   emails anyway because it's just great there's I think there is simply no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:02   to accomplish that task completely impossible because there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:07   like humble way to say I can't read your email has to go to the system is just no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:16   way you can word that yeah it's it sounds like a normal human yeah it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:23   just impossible it's just impossible and so I tried to make it like a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:28   funny and also to try to make it as short as humanly possible because yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:31   there's no good way to to do this but it is up there it's an option for people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:37   send me emails I have noticed something interesting so far about these these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:42   different forms which has changed already the way you mail has come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:46   because for the moment are monitoring these things and seeing ok how to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49   of them how are they used to know how it's going to work as a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:53   and people have definitely been using them and way less email has come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:59   directly to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   interestingly the number of topic suggestions is enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:06   it's way more contact than I ever got from people sending me contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:10   suggestions directly so I i looked at this just yesterday and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13   thousands and thousands of topic suggestions on that spreadsheet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:19   interestingly the emails to me have vastly drop down and wave fewer people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:25   are using that contact form to send an email sometime just aware of this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:32   wonder what's happening is somebody thinking oh let me send an email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:36   then they're coming up to that form and then deciding what ever they were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:40   to send probably isn't going to make it through my personal assistant and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:44   not bothering instead of trying to get rid of trying to guess what my email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:48   addresses and contact me directly like they're just looking on the site and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51   going over there is a way I'll just I just won't do it like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:56   interesting and I don't know what is the reason for email through that form being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1316">TS</a>]

00:22:01   quite low and then the topic suggestions are just enormous it's it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:05   interesting it's an interesting difference that I would not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:08   predicted when I set this up I think I would have no yeah yeah because with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:13   topic suggestions you doing two things you'll be pointing to a meeting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:19   pointing to the fact that you would like topic suggestions and you're also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:24   changing a policy which you are now willing to accept them because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:29   people that may be familiar with your work you do know that if they email you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:34   a topic suggestion you probably not right but now they're like well you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:41   opened the floodgates and you're requesting them so you may I may as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:46   Joe Smith send you that topic detection because now you're asking for them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:51   haven't before two so when you make a change like that and then highlight I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:55   can see why people would send through more and also the email thing makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:59   sense to me as well because I would be a lot of the email that you got his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:03   personal like people were addressing you personally know you dream about you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:10   now they know that it's not going to you a lot of the personality and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:17   connection will have gone and I don't think necessarily people see that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:21   great but just so more like all if it's gonna go to somebody else does not I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:27   not gonna write in the way that I would write it so maybe I just won't write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:31   was interesting I think you might be right and also people that I like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:37   your business if you ask you to do something now have a self qualifier of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:42   well it has to pass a third party to think that this might actually be worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:47   grades while so let me think about it now that you say it it sounds possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:51   obvious but I would not have predicted this in the in the beginning this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1431">TS</a>]

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00:25:48   last week I wanted to and some is based on feedback that we received one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:53   questions that we received a bunch was people wanted to know the total number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:59   of how many emails are in your Inbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:02   this would be I would think the very top level all inbox every email account you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:08   have every small fold every filter everything what is that not that sits at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:14   the very top it's a people want to know how behind I am that that's what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:19   want to know I think people just want to hear an astronomical number yeah people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:24   just want something huge 75,000 so I I only have a rough estimate because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:34   didn't count it up last time we were we were talking but I know that the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:41   of emails that I had to deal with in some way so yes across all accounts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:48   across all levels of my sorting flag emails waiting for all of the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:53   the stuff that number was somewhere above a thousand and below 2000 I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1613">TS</a>]

00:27:00   narrow it down more specifically than that but when we spoke last time that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:04   that's where we were so well so it's a very large number but that is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:10   large number it's not like 15000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:14   oh yeah I think and correct me if I'm making an incorrect assumption I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:19   the problem is isn't the number is the fact that that number probably never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:23   really changes its ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26   because as much email comes in as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:31   that number was that number had been increasing over say the last six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:38   and I think listening to me talking last time on on the episode the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:43   that I did not get across very well was one of the big reasons it was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:48   occurring with me just spending less time on email and so that's why I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:54   spending less time clearing it out and so that was also causing this backlog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1674">TS</a>]

00:28:01   effect to occur I was doing much less frequently a thing that I used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:05   more often which was say dedicate an entire day or two in a row to just clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:11   out email and to get it down to nothing I used to do that much more frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:16   and I was doing that much less frequently because I was trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   it like he's that the best way to spend my time is that what people want me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:27   do and yes there are problems in email there are things that need you to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:33   solved all problems and benefits are relative and so I was spending more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:39   on making things in less time on email and and that's partly why the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:45   backflow was was increasing but I wanted to bring it up as a topic because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:49   obviously at a certain point it gets on your mind like email was now on my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:56   is this little burden that was always there in in the background and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1736">TS</a>]

00:29:01   kind of why I was wanting to talk about it is because I can feel this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:04   problem now not because of anything that's like in the email but all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:09   emails in aggregate together are like a psychological burden even if none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:15   them in particular is a huge deal breaking problem which is why I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:20   dedicate less time to them but none of them stop the business but all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:25   together just a psychological burden that's where I was last time we spoke so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:30   where are you an email now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   as of this morning I am happy to reports that I have 0 emails in my inbox was ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:41   because it turns out if you make a podcast where you embarrassingly talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:50   about how far behind on email you are you have basically shamed yourself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:55   having to actually clear all of this out I just couldn't deal with it being there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1795">TS</a>]

00:30:02   anymore and the fact that I'm traveling happens to have made this an excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:09   time to do this because all of my normal routines are thrown off kilter anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:17   on the airplanes and have been working here in North Carolina little bit III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:23   who was filled with a vengeance to get this back down at least at least to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:32   be able to slap the bottom of the empty floor for a split second before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:36   starts filling back up again that that was the goal because I was also thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:40   about it I want to try to change the way this works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:45   systematically it's very hard to do that while still having a big backlog of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:51   stuff if it's easier to sit down and say ok I'm actually going to spend a serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:57   amount of time dealing with this and then trying to build a new system from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:04   the ground up and that's just that's easier to do a bomb just focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:08   email so I haven't been writing scripts I haven't been doing other stuff related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:13   to the business I have basically dedicated my time to clearing out all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:18   that stuff and yes just just a couple hours before we started recording I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:24   reached the bottom so I'm quite relieved about that that's amazing like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:30   that is awesome he did that if if that amazing it's just a matter of time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:35   you know just it is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   because here's the thing going through all of this it makes it was just again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:42   of realizing with the email yes none of these are none of these are big problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   but they're all just little problems spread across a huge variety of domains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:50   personal life and business life and all of these things as a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:54   stuff to deal with in all of these different context switches it just takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:59   a lot of time that that's all it is it's not it's not hard it's not like coal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:06   mining where it's difficult work all day long raised just time consuming and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:12   is where I i feel conflicted about acts like I mentioned mentioned before ok so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:16   I've I feel better cause I've relieved this mental email burden from myself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:21   they give this a really what the people who support my work want me doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:27   my time now they want me writing scripts they won't be making more videos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:31   this is the part of being self employed in dealing with all the stuff that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:35   just don't like I hate spending time on this this administrative stuff but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:40   does need to be done at some point even if it's just because it's on your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:46   not because it's necessarily a problem in and of itself but I'm very much aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:50   like the most valuable work that I can do this stuff that people like the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:54   is not me just replying to emails its me making podcasts and and making videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1974">TS</a>]

00:33:00   but anyway that is done and now I am attempting to figure out how to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:06   new system that will manage that will last in the longer run it so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:11   the topic suggestion thing and filtering more emails to my personal assistants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:16   are the first two pieces of of this is bright new future with email so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:23   ideally now it's like trying to protect the system in which you then don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:30   to do what you just did again that's exactly right and also now I can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:35   better sense of what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   yeah like how many like what's the I can have a much better sense of ok what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:43   the minimum amount of time that I need to dedicate to this to keep it at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:47   steady state where I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   get it to empty on a you know every other week basis or whatever it now have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:54   a much better sense going forward what that's going to be working with a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:58   more reasonable system so that's that's what I'm trying here I guess my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:03   prototype here is if you're very behind on email start a podcast and tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:09   whole world about how behind an email you are that's the takeaway from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   that's a really good take away which is up in a situation where you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:18   embarrassed and so I am maintain what I said earlier this helps helps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:26   whether whether you like to admit that it was help it was unwelcome help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:30   because it was embarrassment that it helped nonetheless yes but nonetheless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:36   am at the bottom of my email now if you have heard at the time and/or considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:40   email bankruptcy yes I have I've come across this and I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:47   philosophically opposed to email Bankruptcy Court for listeners who may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:55   be unaware that I think maybe the best way to describe the email bankruptcy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58   it's just like bankruptcy in real life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:01   you're so far in debt with in this case not money but emails that need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:07   replied to that the only way forward is to just say I'm dumping all of this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:16   starting afresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:19   my email debt is being absolved by me declaring bankruptcy and we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:24   going to move forward and anything that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   will reappear at some point in the future I know that if I did that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:32   feel way worse about it because I I would also feel like I hadn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:38   solve the problem and I would feel like what i've what i've done is is swept a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:42   bunch of problems under the rug that then it then there's like an uncertainty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:47   of did a sweep something away that I really needed to see that wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:52   resurfaced at an appropriate time scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:57   and I'm not I'm not saying that you mail bankruptcy is never acceptable but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:05   not something that I would be comfortable dealing with I would much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:09   rather do what I've done which is take a bunch of time and say I'm doing nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:13   else except email and and get to the bottom of all of it and then feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:17   have a genuine fresh start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:21   email bankruptcy feels a bit like stealing our fresh starts in a somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:25   illegitimate way to me that's that's a bit of how it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:29   I can see why people do it but I can see why you wouldn't do it so I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:36   reason that I thought of this as well as like you were in it seemed to be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:41   situation in which the email that was in your inbox was never gonna get answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:45   continue to build in that in that world if that was what was going to occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:51   email bankruptcy makes sense because you're never gonna get to those emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:56   anyways so stop giving yourself the anxiety is in a number like that thats I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2216">TS</a>]

00:37:01   think we're the idea come from for many people but the reason I can see that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:06   take on the route that you've taken and on what you've done is it doesn't gel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09   with you because it's like wall it's only just gonna happen again because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:14   I'm doing is taking a temporary measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:18   there is absolutely zero reason why my email inbox would not get back to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:23   thousand if all I'm doing is just every six months deleting everything right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:28   because there's no new system it's just the exact same system but now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:33   starting from zero again I don't know where this comes from originally but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:37   there's a little saying that your daily system is perfectly designed to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:41   exactly the results that you're getting and it's almost it's almost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:47   definitional statement but if you are in a situation where you are getting more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:52   emails than you are you are responding to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:56   however you deal with the email that is your system and it is producing those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2276">TS</a>]

00:38:00   results I get is perfectly designed to produce those results and so yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:04   declaring e-mail bankruptcy is just going to get you the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07   thing later down the road I don't like the idea of just sweeping away these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:13   problems without actually facing them of just saying I'm just gonna push it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:19   away and and hope it's hope its fine hope I hear from people again when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:24   need to an inappropriate time scale and i mean that that does mean that I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   have applied to in the past few days some emails that were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:31   embarrassingly late that's that's a bit uncomfortable to do but I still think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:37   feel better about replying to something embarrassingly late then I feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:41   just sweeping it under the road and not replying to it if it is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:46   still needs a reply email has an expiration date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:50   here's a question for you Mike did you ever ever find it when you're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:54   with large groups of people that there there are definitely problems that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:58   if you wait long enough they do go away on their own right there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:03   problems that just kind of like I don't handle this it'll just get fixed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:08   somebody else or it will just become irrelevant you know what I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   about great you have uncovered my top tips for working in a corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:15   environment oh yes as part of my job I did a few different things so my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:24   life the most recent job that I had I worked in a bank doing marketing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:30   mention this last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   email as part of my job I did they see a marketing direct mail so this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:38   the stuff that you received your letter box and also email marketing as well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:43   we would be marked existing custom stuff we would send emails to people that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:50   one of my jobs one of my other roles was also a bit of like Mad Men and systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:56   processing for a different part of the business it was a dream job and I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:01   this creative part of marketing but then also managing this like other marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:06   department it was strange but it was little I did I would get sent emails for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:12   things that nobody knew how to do so they sent it to me because they expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:17   that I was the person that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:18   have to do it you know like nobody else knows how to do this has to get done so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:23   I should send it to the guy that is going to affect the most of it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   get rights and send it to me a lot of those things I would read them and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:30   like I don't know how to do this I don't want to have to learn so what I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:35   do is delete this email and comes back in a few weeks there may be a look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:42   but if it doesn't come back it was never that point in the first place and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:46   saved me so much time because I would just delete things and then if people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:50   say why didn't you do this I haven't got around to it like that was always my on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:54   services like I haven't seen this and then I would do with it but more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:59   than not these things which has never come back because the executive who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:04   asked for it moved on and didn't carry you know all of these things in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:09   big corporate environments such as stemmed by somebody in the management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:14   team asked a question and now everybody thinks there needs to be an answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:19   this question when really they would just asking the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:23   yeah I very very frequently would do this and all if there was an email in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:29   inbox or in a folder or something that I believed needed to be dealt with and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:35   was already like three or four weeks pass the time they was sent and I had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:39   chaser email gone just gone that people used to say to me like that how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:46   get all the work done that you do and also leave at 5 p.m. like I was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:50   person in my team that came in at nine let you know how do you say things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:55   it was basically because I don't allow myself to get bogged down in things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:59   I think of them that was how I survived a bunch of stuff basically part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:09   system was first contacted my coaches have had to happen twice so it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:13   count pretty much if it was the fact that sounds if it was a thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:17   like no one knows how to do this can you do this and you can pretty much assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:21   that it got deleted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   I don't do that anymore because every deleted email like that affect my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:29   business you know that that's that's as you say that we are now in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:33   different situations but I was sitting here I'm trying to remember what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:37   but at some point in my teaching career I had a similar realization of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:43   these requests I can just ignore and I'll never hear about them ever again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:47   now that's not so much the case because people are contacting us directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:54   because of the thing that we do but in groups there seems to be this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57   where where you just get many more requests where it's clear that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:02   popped into somebody's mind for a mere minute long enough to write you an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:07   and then they they almost don't care about at the instant they're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:11   writing the email and you learn to recognize those those kinds of requests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:16   the only thing that's coming to my mind was I never did but received a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:23   requests for was I get emails about how I was supposed to contact a parent about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:29   something related to their child and it wasn't apparent reaching out to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:36   was an administrator telling me that I should reach out to a parent about X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:42   how's that well the parent hasn't approached me I don't really know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:47   much they care about this topic this just seems like something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:50   administrator wants me to do and so I'll just never do this unless I hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:55   it again and in my entire career teaching I never once called a parent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2635">TS</a>]

00:44:01   even though I I received many requests from administrators to call parents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:06   I never heard about it ever I I honestly think this is one of the things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:10   just popped into somebody's head oh you know you should call Susie's mom about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:14   whatever I like ok you know didn't do that never happened ever mattered and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:20   could have been spending an hour on the phone several times a week calling to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:25   parents to talk about their precious darling and why they aren't performing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:29   perfectly in every possible way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   way however I wish I could remember more but that was that's the one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:34   clearly jumping into my head of like if I just ignored it goes away and clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:38   nobody cares not the parent not the student not the administrator is just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:43   email that has appeared because these things do you mind would be a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:48   like this item of literature is out of stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:55   the last time it was ordered was six years ago the company that makes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:59   doesn't exist anymore we need more of them and i feel like im not doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:06   sounds horrible home actually I do have a follow-up question for you something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:12   from last show that you mention offhandedly the part of your job was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:18   send emails to millions of people and we never followed up on this yeah tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:22   about this that was it like the marketing stuff like I would be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:26   charge of creating marketing campaigns that was sent out to the millions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:33   millions of people in the customer base and so that's what you were doing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   were sending those emails that I don't read from my bank about something being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:41   updated or some special promotion that was you I actually think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:45   literally was me I didn't know with you but the time but it literally was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:50   me so you know that first email maybe that was an email that you go from here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:56   getting stuff that I was bugging you if the most frequent question that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2756">TS</a>]

00:46:01   through after last week's episode was about having like segmenting email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:08   accounts basically so having secret email addresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:12   family and friends using aliases so like saying i dunno CDP plus Pam at grade on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:19   that kind of thing right using the aliases or just having multiple email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:26   accounts to deal with certain things so you can more easily filter staff in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:30   more easily get what you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   do you have a system in place like this do you do anything like this I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:37   have seen a lot of advice on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   about doing this exact kind of thing have multiple email addresses for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:43   different kinds of contact that you are going to receive and in my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:49   this just doesn't work it doesn't work because ultimately I have to open up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:56   email client on whatever device I'm using so I'm opening up mail on my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2816">TS</a>]

00:47:02   and even if I have segmented different emails I had one email I just for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:08   family and I have one email address for business and this is a public contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:12   form it's all going to the same program that I open at the same time anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:18   it's you can't help but see everything that is there when I have accused only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:24   tried to do that have different email addresses I've always just found that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:28   seems like it is mentally more work than simply having it all in the same place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:32   and I do have dozens of email addresses have collected over the years and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:40   them are doing this crazy forwarding chain whereas I have a have created new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:45   ones and eventually abandon them I sent them to forward to what is the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:48   current email address so it all filters back to the same place now but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:53   people who have known me for a very long time if they send me one of my older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:57   than me a message one of my older he addresses it probably goes through three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:01   or four email addresses that all Eve say oh forward to this one now over to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:05   one now before it ends up at what is my current email address so I don't know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:11   it feels more it feels more honest and it feels more easy to manage to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:17   have it all end up in one account and then to try and use Smart Filters or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:25   rules on that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28   account that just feels way more straightforward than trying to manage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:32   bunch of accounts and then also managed rules may be on those are Smart Filters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:37   it just doesn't it seem like duplicates seems like duplicate work and plus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:42   know people who have secret contact email addresses that you're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:47   use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48   do you get in touch with them but then this also becomes a problem of now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:52   have a secret icky for now you have to remember which email address you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:56   supposed to use to get in touch with that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   it also like it puts a burden of effort on everyone else who is contacting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:03   in some way so I it's almost like it like it's almost like and security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:10   through obscurity measure to have secret email addresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:13   well there eventually they're eventually going to be not secret they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:16   eventually going to spread out and then you just have to do the whole thing over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:19   again so that that's why I'm much more focused on trying to have a system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:25   just works for all of my email and I don't I don't find segment in that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:29   works very well but I mean I know you have this view email addresses do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:35   segmented like do you find this useful to do or do you have it all go to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   place as well it all goes to one place because you do the same as me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:42   yeah although I don't really have many filters in place the only filters I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:48   is for stuff to go immediately archive which tends to be notifications of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:53   things so like for example I want them there in case I need to search for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:58   but I don't ever wanna see them directly I have a ton of stuff that doesn't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:03   well so late but my thing is my my reason I don't have this and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:07   totally see why it works for some people but my main problem with email is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:12   psychological burden it places on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15   rights are seeing the number this doesn't fix that because I would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:19   be adding all of those email accounts the same email app right because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:25   always going to see even if I just go into one inbox I'm still gonna see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:29   number on the big embarks which is exactly the same as the problem I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32   now and then you could start game really crazy right so I use mailed out for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:38   email account and that's never gonna work for me because they will now have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:43   to have 6 tabs open and it's just a nightmare because I can totally see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:49   some people do it you are perfectly right that the only way this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   practical as if you are also willing to use multiple email applications and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:56   is a bridge that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   simply not willing to cross as it is I used to things for email and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:03   that's already more than I really want to and the only reason that I used to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:08   because on iOS I have draft set up as a kind of phone email account that allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:14   me to send a message to someone without having to open up and look at my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:19   email account and I do the same thing on the Mac with airmail it's called which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:25   have set up as an outgoing only email account so I don't have to open up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:30   look at the look at all the stuff that is coming to me if I just I want to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:33   an email to someone that's as close as unwilling to get to actually using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:37   multiple email accounts are both email apps and really that's just like using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:41   1.1 mail apps so yes I am not willing to have multiple ones and that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:47   way I think that having multiple email addresses is helpful in segmenting way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:53   in the same way that slack is segmented for our communication you need to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:58   lot happened I just rather deal with the email all in one place in a consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3118">TS</a>]

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00:54:20   of real FM Squarespace build a beautiful I think we briefly touched on this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:26   previous episode that you tend to use mail app for your iOS and OS 10 majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:36   of email processing stuff yeah century all of it is that because of utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:42   areas you just like you know how to use it you're stuck in it waves have used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:47   forever I am in the minority here of I for the most part like the way that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:52   looks like I've tried to use Gmail stuff and personally I find it tedious I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3292">TS</a>]

00:55:00   that there are people who are all in on using Gmail for email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:03   and I don't like using their web interface I have netted just it does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:09   work with the way I think about you mail for whatever reason and I also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:13   think it is ugly whereas I I like the fact that mel is relatively clean does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:18   and this is why I especially like doing mail on my iPad on the iPhone is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:24   clean like you're just looking at the message was not a whole bunch of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:28   all over the place and you're just looking at one at a time I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:32   that where gmail has always felt really really messy to me so that's that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:36   I I use these I actually do like that I feel like I'm the only person who likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:41   mail there obviously the things that frustrate me about it although on my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:46   I definitely love there's a plugin for mail which is called male act on which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:52   would be very sad if it didn't work anymore but it does allow me to assign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55   just some key strokes that will automatically do things to a message so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3355">TS</a>]

00:56:00   I have it set up so that if I press Ctrl a while looking at a message it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:05   archive that message but will also make sure to clear any flags that are on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:10   message or and to make sure that the messages on red because sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:14   actually archives something so quickly that it doesn't pass the like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:19   second timer yes this is an unread message I just wanna make sure that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:26   something low that I immediately go like nope boom in the archive I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:30   the archive to be cleared up with random messages that are still marked as unread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   that that is that is a handy little thing that I use the fastest archiver in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:37   the west it doesn't even have time to recognize it but yes that's male act on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:46   a big fan of that I I quite like that on the Mac so you said you don't like Gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:52   do you use Gmail for your web email hosting do something different I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3412">TS</a>]

00:57:00   Gmail for years and then when I say it was maybe six months or a year ago now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:08   I'm terrible with relative times but somewhere in that that boundary I I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:13   what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   a disaster is problem with Gmail and Mail talking to each other which Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:22   in Gmail have never really played well together they're always been minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:25   problems I remember this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   yes yeah there was an update astound basically meant they could be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:32   couldn't use Gmail email anymore that was why a lot of people don't use man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:36   that's why I stopped using the mail was because he couldn't get my email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:40   more service like well I'm gonna go if you're using male I can wholeheartedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:47   recommend using Gmail with it but it wasn't I did run into that problem where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:53   you couldn't access it I ran into problems where and my feeling is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:58   care whose fault is it I don't care if it was Apple's fault I don't care for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   his Gmail so I just ran into this problem where anyone know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:05   describe it but basically I had a a big number of flags messages in my gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:09   system that I need to reply to and that at some point all of those flags got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:17   lost the way gmail works is that you just have all of the messages in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:24   giant archive and it kind of smart pulls out the ones that are flags you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:28   see them the flag ones are in in an actual separate folder that you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:33   go and look and so if you lose the flags you those messages are just lost among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:40   the tens and tens of thousands of emails that are in your whole archive you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:44   going to find them again and so I had a big chunk of flag messages to reply to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:50   lost all those flags and that without was my you know what the way gmail works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:54   with its funny it is I map but it isn't really I'm a bit like I'm done with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:58   I want to have a system where it's folders and I know that I am putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:03   messages in those folders and they're just they're just there I don't want any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:07   of this fancy gmail stuff that I don't even use anyway so I switched over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:12   I'm now using fast mail as the back end to my actual email that that is what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:19   happening behind the scenes I is I pay fast mail now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:22   to provide the service which is just a standard IMAP client so that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:27   currently using and I'm very very happy with it I'm very happy with it when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:32   started really we started fast mail but we'd for some reason something went awry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:41   and we somehow ended up getting spam and it was somehow not passing for the spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:52   feels very well did something went wrong somewhere but what was happening was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:57   people then sty to email me like potential sponsors whose very early in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:02   the company and the emails were bouncing and I basically said we need to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:08   change his right now like this needs to be fixed I will not allow this to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:14   again and then moved to Gmail and we have Google ads in that also allowed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:20   to because I wanted to be able to try all of the fancy email apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:25   integrate gmail like me and I couldn't use those if I was using third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3625">TS</a>]

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01:00:49   some very bizarre default settings for how it handles spam and I always want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:56   reach out to the people at fast you know if you change the defaults for the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3656">TS</a>]

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01:01:04   use fast mail to tell it here fast mail look at my archive of messages and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3664">TS</a>]

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01:01:23   internet I guess whereas it's it's it's not like Gmail does by default looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3683">TS</a>]

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01:01:33   person if you sign up with that smell make sure to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:36   the settings and tell it like yes please look at my archive of messages and learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:41   what is and is not spam to me and ever since I did that I haven't had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:45   problems but the default setup is a bit is a bit weird you do get a lot of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3705">TS</a>]

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01:02:01   but then you also mentioned having drafts as like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:05   send only email account how did this come to be I don't know I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:10   solve that problem of I have thought of a thing and I want to send a message to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3730">TS</a>]

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01:02:19   are in there I realized oh if I set up a separate email address which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:26   basically you know my email address . mobile right that I can send messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:34   from there but then the dot mobile address its rule is to forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:40   everything to my real address so if I send somebody an email from I dot mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3760">TS</a>]

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01:02:52   won't go back to the mobile one so that way the mobile email address is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:58   clear like there's nothing that's in there because it sends outgoing messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:03   and it redirects everything that is coming in I did find that very useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:09   for ok I want to send a message I don't want to get distracted by all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:13   email do you have configured in a different way on your iPod like you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3793">TS</a>]

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01:03:23   that I use the most I wouldn't say that it's a dream email device because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:28   email is ultimately a nightmare but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:32   but but I find it is that it is the one where it is the least stressful way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:39   deal with email that's that's the way I would describe it it's the cleanest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:43   it's the simplest way of dealing with the email but it is not always the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:47   convenient because sometimes an email you'll need to attach something all need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:51   to look something up and then on the iPad that can become kind of a pain in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54   the butt but all things being equal I would rather do you mail my iPad have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:58   you ever tried anything like Google Inbox on mailbox basically something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:03   that can categorize email on your behalf if you ever tried to do these services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:08   because I have so many email addresses many of them are Gmail addresses and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:14   yes I have tried playing around with all of the various plugs into Gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:20   different services and I think those things are a lot like to do apps now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:28   you look on the App Store there are a bazillion different to do abs and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:35   have to find a to-do app that just fits with your mind very well and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:44   just people think about their to do is in very different ways where one app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:48   good for someone and it's it's a 10 it's a terrible fit for somebody else I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   a lot of these Gmail apps like inbox or like mailbox if they happened to line up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:58   with the way you think about email then they're amazing but if they don't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:03   the shape of your mind then they are terrible and so some of the features in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:07   mailbox about you can press a button and say oh I could boomerang this back to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:12   in a week I don't want to see this now but but make it look as though this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:15   message just got sent to me and you in a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   something about that just does not fit my mind at all and in box on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:24   on the other end of that I feel like inbox is trying to do too many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:28   automatically and I just I don't like that as well but for it for the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:33   people the impression that I get his those different services are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:37   amazing if it matches up with your mind in the same way that if you find it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:41   do manager that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:42   matches with your mind you feel like I think this is exactly what I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:46   for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:47   so that that's that's kind of my thought on those things I'm not really very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:52   comfortable with an at that tries to make decisions on my behalf site that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:59   how I feel within boxes it's like he's doing much like its categorizing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:04   and moving things around and putting things in this hidden folder and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:09   really like that but I am like the exact opposite you not my favorite feature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:14   mailboxes the idea that I can take an email and say show me that in a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:17   right and that's because I I really hate to see email in my inbox I like to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:25   able to clear it because it makes my mind for a bit clearer if when I go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:29   me that there's not one hundred things in there and there's some things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:33   just like well there is something in here that I need to do this person says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:37   you know about this in July well I can then just set a thing which says on july [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:43   first bring us email back and that really works for me also as I could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:50   a way of like just get rid of this today cuz I'm not gonna do with us today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:55   don't wanna keep seeing it today show me later on that later and I quite like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:59   that that was me and that is an element of a lot of people really really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:05   like if using your emails like a task list but quite frequently my email inbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:10   is a task list and i also there's no way around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:14   yeah so I whilst I use on the focus like to try and never gave much to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:21   like that there is still stuff in my email inbox which are tasks that need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:25   be completed so sometimes it's just easier for me to just be like ok I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:29   revisit asked how come back to it later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   mailboxes have more stuff like allowing you to create lists and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:36   with the email but I also quite like the fact that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:41   reorder emails while so bring that one down one up that was like mailbox I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:48   always feel like email is its own separate universe when it comes to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:54   kinds of problems that are related to getting things done in organizing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:59   life and task management I've just always felt like email is is a as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:05   completely separate thing from that needs to be dealt with in its own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:09   and so I just feel like I've used broadly getting things done kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:15   system but I've always ended up partially re-creating that within email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:19   because it is just so self-contained and also so big that when you mentioned like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:27   Oh send us email back to me in a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   my version of doing that is I have a folder called waiting for that any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:34   those oh I need to reply to this but not in any immediate time frame I put those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:40   messages in there and then I just have a I have a listed them because it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:44   too much overhead to then go into my regular task management program and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:49   oh create a task to reply to this because then in the future me then going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:53   to need to search for that email you need some way to manage all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:57   stuff is just it's such a big it's such a big thing but yes I am I my version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4137">TS</a>]

01:09:01   that is just have a folder and I prefer to see all of those things there whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:06   with something like mailbox I always have this feeling of how many males have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:11   a boomerang to myself when are they gonna come back I don't know you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:15   it now yes they have a listed as a little button you just press in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18   that their app is is navigated they have three buttons along the very top they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:23   have a clock on a mountain in tray and then a tech and then the clock is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:27   snoozed email and the one in the middle the interest in box and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:31   little tick which is the study of archived interesting interesting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:36   missed that that's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   my issue with what you're doing is like how do you know when any of those emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:44   need to be action on they just sit in this list and it's like you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:50   into the mall to find out when you're welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   them yeah that's that's that is definitely the problem and so I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:57   to review that every once in a while but you're the way of mailbox boomerang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:03   something back he was much more precise presuming that you check your email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:07   frequently you check it every day about the situation that I was in but yes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:13   this is what I mean it's like we're doing similar things in slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:16   different ways and that's why it's just if the app fits your mind it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:21   yeah that's why I'm not against those things but I just haven't found one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:25   fits my mind and that's why it's so difficult to suggest to somebody to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:31   a different email lab because it just doesn't gel with your way of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:35   it's never going to potentially we have reached the end of talking about email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:42   thank God I was just about to ask please let us be over we we must be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:47   talking about email i think i think im not gonna say we're done forever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:52   we're at least done for now we're done forever now so I want it will talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:59   your iPad a moment ago and I noticed that about some of the new iOS 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:07   features so I assume you've installed the public paid her on your iPod yes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:13   discussed earlier episode that I was going to wait for the public beta and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:17   came out of nowhere was it a week ago two weeks ago and I immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:22   installed it on my iPad because I want to check things out and I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:26   liking it so far I'm really liking it definitely feels like this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:31   the iPad focused iOS updates and since I'm a very heavy iPad user I am pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:37   happy with with that have you installed on all counts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:44   know Mike Dunn started on all of my iPad ok so i think is right about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:48   question is I know that it sounds like I am poking fun at you and there is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:53   small but I'm surprised to hear that you haven't done it because now like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:59   are not the same like your your your iPad's now have different functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:05   well partly why I put it on my iPad air too and that is because I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:11   able to test the feature that are most interesting to me which is to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14   do the app side by side so you only have 1 I've had it yes I only have one here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:20   to guide you can't blame me as being the crazy one here it's impossible for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:27   know because you have so many of the only have one of each kind that I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:33   don't have multiples of the same kind that a bridge too far so I just have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:39   one iPad air to install the public paid on that and I also knew that this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:43   good time to do it because I was going to be traveling shortly and I only bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:47   one iPad with me when I travel so I was going to bring the iPad air too and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:53   that all this this is a good time because then I won't be switching back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:57   and forth between devices and get frustrated with things and I can just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:01   can just try it out so that's that's what I have been doing that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   situation that answer what you want to know about which iPads yeah I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:07   yeah I know I am surprised that you don't have one in the case and wanting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:12   carrying case something gets lost but now I just need to do that now I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:20   no I haven't done that haven't done that yet the redundancy too far so the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:28   like the the multitasking features like being able to have two apps open a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:32   I see him that you're probably getting some use out of this because you use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:37   few of Apple's official app sorry because at the moment as we are where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:41   are today the only adds that this works with Apple's mobile applications where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:47   later on third parties will be able to integrate this functionality and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:51   be able to use only focus and fantastical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:54   yeah I'm really looking forward to the third party ones using it and I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4434">TS</a>]

01:14:01   to play with it because it's just it's just different handling something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:05   thinking about it in a conceptual way to be able to be able to play with it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:09   person and say ok this is how it feels when you start to act together this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:13   what the size looks like right in front of my face you get a much better sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:17   of it than watching craig Venter et do a demo of it and wonder how it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:21   useful to to understand the limitations of how it really works that when you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:26   a demo it's very easy for your brain to fill in a lot of details that then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:31   later on realize like oh it doesn't quite work like that or oh I just made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:35   this assumption so I wanted to play with it just to get a much clearer sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:39   sooner about how potentially useful it can be and my answer is is very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:46   because I use a lot of third-party apps what I can actually do with it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:51   is quite limited but the few times something has come up I thought oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:55   is just great stuff I am say looking at something I know on a web page but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4495">TS</a>]

01:15:00   also busy instant messaging with someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:03   man is it a relief to just have both of those on the screen instead of having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:07   constantly like flip back and forth to reply to the person I can just have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:11   ongoing conversation and keep doing what I'm doing like that is that is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:16   even just with the built-in apps so I'm a huge fan of that but by far and away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:23   my favorite feature is that the all tab switcher is on the iPad is is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:33   glorious to me ever since I connected a keyboard to an iPad for the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:42   have I just constantly hit Alt Tab to switch between things and it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:46   nothing and it's always been infuriating that's not there on the iPad and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:51   works now and feel like God a relief because I'm a very very heavy keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:58   user I try to use the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   the least amount possible and so yes up on my regular computer I'm always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:05   alt tabbing between stuff I never use the mouse to switch applications and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:09   I am really happy that it's on the iPad I would I would upgrade to iOS 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:15   immediately and they could charge 20 bucks for that upgrade if it only had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:20   the all tab switch be like yes Tim Cook take my money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:24   20 bucks just for the all tabs which are nothing else great this is the best iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   update ever that and like the old tapping and like the Ave APT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:36   side-by-side I think that they're they're definitely like you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39   before it makes things feel faster on the iPad like going from apt to apt at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:44   like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:45   and one of the things I've noticed as well I'm wondering if you've noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:49   this you know when you click the girl that you could it would open another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:53   application and it may do that thing where is like the appt went away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:57   likes pan around and here comes the next they have now replaces have just at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:02   slides in from the side and it may I love that it makes so much faster and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:08   just want to point out before we carry on this is how was on Android that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:12   the animation before people mention that and also like the fact that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:16   persistent back button now has an Android so they are good things have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:21   come from a droid 2 it definitely helps because it doesn't feel like let me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:28   wait for you I paused for a moment while you spend some apps around especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:33   with some of the things like that we both use like bumps into pro which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:37   basically there to open up other applications sometimes you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:40   you're waiting for weeks whilst sustaining round and round and round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:45   yeah this is a case where I bet that the slide over thing it might not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:50   be any faster or just in significantly faster than the swap around application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:56   but it just feels so much faster than watching them go like oh here you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4676">TS</a>]

01:18:02   the one in the front goes to the back and the one in the back come to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:05   front you know maybe it's a tenth of a second or two tenths of a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:09   actually faster but something about that animation just feels so much faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:14   the the good it's just a good user interface design and they took that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:19   Android Great Clips is really nice it is much much improved and as I also agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:25   that the label the back button at the top is very nice so when you go into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:30   different app at the at the top left of the screen it'll say like click to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:34   return to Safari if if safari is where you were last that is also very nice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:39   definitely feels like moving around and switching between applications is vastly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:44   vastly improved and you tried the picture-in-picture videos or I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:52   played around with it but no i i haven't done that is mainly because I don't tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:56   to watch video very much on my iPad so I haven't had a chance to really play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4736">TS</a>]

01:19:01   that in person i just want to see that it worked and I was showing it off to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:06   wife and she heard all this is the greatest thing ever this moving around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:09   video picture in picture thing but I haven't used it much myself I love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:14   but you can only use it with the videos out now right there is anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:20   Safari interesting it's just it's fantastic like so I can be there might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:27   be like say like this like a YouTube video something I want to watch but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:30   not like I don't need to be like super engrossed in like her like a let's play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:36   and yes something long that you want in the background that is also primarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:41   audio content yeah all that just doesn't require a ton of attention or maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:48   can have that video playing and be reading Twitter at the same time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:53   it's like or one other thing I've been able to do is to be able to take notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:59   on a video which I do a lot right stuff and it's like this is just fantastic for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlOg2bU/4799">TS</a>]

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