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00:00:00   how was your fourth of July it was a totally normal day because I live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/0">TS</a>]

00:00:05   London live in America do not do anything I haven't done anything special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5">TS</a>]

00:00:10   for fourth of July I tried to do American things did you have a BBQ I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/10">TS</a>]

00:00:17   a hotdog hotdog ok I'm halfway there but you didn't BBQ it when I i men in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/17">TS</a>]

00:00:24   world way we're embossed which is one of my favorite beach cities and towns I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/24">TS</a>]

00:00:30   never remember which one it is and we went to this bar which was serving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/30">TS</a>]

00:00:35   American food for Independence Day American flag up stuff and we had beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/35">TS</a>]

00:00:42   and hotdogs did you recklessly endanger your hands with explosives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/42">TS</a>]

00:00:51   this is also part of the fourth of July tradition no I don't think they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   doing any fireworks actually can you buy fireworks in England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57   well you can you definitely can for fireworks night to remember remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/57">TS</a>]

00:01:05   fifth of November is inefficient november the fifth well because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/65">TS</a>]

00:01:13   nephew was born on the fourth so now I can I get those confused now in my brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/73">TS</a>]

00:01:18   your nephew is not guy Fawkes though it is the fourth of July just something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/78">TS</a>]

00:01:22   that you're not too fussed about or is it just because you're here and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/82">TS</a>]

00:01:27   hear that just not the same level of excitement yeah I just forget about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/87">TS</a>]

00:01:32   would have forgotten it entirely about it were it not for Twitter and seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   people doing America things on Twitter for the July it's fine if you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/95">TS</a>]

00:01:40   america and their barbecues and fireworks and celebrations and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/100">TS</a>]

00:01:44   but here in london is just a normal day just a normal day before july's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/104">TS</a>]

00:01:48   tough day for me because people on social media like to remind me that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/108">TS</a>]

00:01:53   British right that's just what I get for the entire day americans bashing British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/113">TS</a>]

00:02:00   people on the internet day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   that's really convey as though you had anything to do with anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/123">TS</a>]

00:02:07   happened two hundred years ago and also as though the americans alive today can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/127">TS</a>]

00:02:14   claim any credit for the group for the glorious victory that they had as yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/134">TS</a>]

00:02:19   but the photos by people like to remind me that they they want like right as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/139">TS</a>]

00:02:24   did you win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25   can you explain that but to me this is just like the sports thing we won what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/145">TS</a>]

00:02:31   did you do you did nothing but sit in the stands but with the with patriotism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/151">TS</a>]

00:02:37   stuff it's even worse we won the revolutionary war really you weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/157">TS</a>]

00:02:44   even alive when it was occurring we need to address the heat from last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/164">TS</a>]

00:02:52   though I am yeah because basically I don't know how much of this you've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/172">TS</a>]

00:02:56   the heat Olympics is this what you mean people telling you where they are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/176">TS</a>]

00:03:00   how much hotter it is wherever they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   yeah like I care when I'm physically uncomfortable where I am yeah I saw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/182">TS</a>]

00:03:07   bunch of the Olympics I just wanted to basically state that it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/187">TS</a>]

00:03:11   competition like we were looking to compete and there are a lot of places in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/191">TS</a>]

00:03:16   the world we totally accept but I think the problem that mean greater having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/196">TS</a>]

00:03:20   speaker's neither of our homes are equipped to deal with heat that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/200">TS</a>]

00:03:26   the difference and places where it's like 1900 degrees Fahrenheit every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/206">TS</a>]

00:03:31   single day like they're probably better equipped oh yeah I will be visiting my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/211">TS</a>]

00:03:37   parents in North Carolina soon and the North Carolina summers are awful they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/217">TS</a>]

00:03:46   very hot very humid but luckily you never have to be outside for more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/226">TS</a>]

00:03:53   10 seconds in a row ever in North Carolina during your air conditioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/233">TS</a>]

00:03:58   house you step into the garage which is hopefully air-conditioned as well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/238">TS</a>]

00:04:02   get into your air conditioned car and you drive to the supermarket so the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05   time you have to be outside is however long it takes you to walk from your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/245">TS</a>]

00:04:09   to the supermarket so North Carolina is functionally entirely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/249">TS</a>]

00:04:15   doors just don't go outside and it is prepared to handle those temperatures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/255">TS</a>]

00:04:20   but London as we discussed is not prepared to handle these temperatures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/260">TS</a>]

00:04:23   English people just believe in their minds that their summers are always fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/263">TS</a>]

00:04:29   despite the annual evidence that they are not fighting that they would benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/269">TS</a>]

00:04:34   from air conditioning that they refused to install I think one of the things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/274">TS</a>]

00:04:38   in that is league I bet that newer homes now have some kind of central air system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/278">TS</a>]

00:04:44   but many homes here were built before that was even a consideration which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/284">TS</a>]

00:04:50   maybe not the same so much in america like the houses were built differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/290">TS</a>]

00:04:54   they will build more recently and therefore could have been equipped for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57   that stuff I give it somebody said to me like you can build yourself a house I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/297">TS</a>]

00:05:02   would put air conditioning in that house because I'm doing it now but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/302">TS</a>]

00:05:07   many houses are older and then I guess we've become used to not having it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/307">TS</a>]

00:05:12   just don't have it it's it's like today I dunno it's 20 degrees Celsius or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/312">TS</a>]

00:05:19   something today maybe 22 something like that and I would like to have some air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/319">TS</a>]

00:05:24   conditioning right now cuz did the temperature is not exactly as I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   like in the room today the other problem with talking about the temperature is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/327">TS</a>]

00:05:34   didn't mention on the day but the humidity on the day we were recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/334">TS</a>]

00:05:37   was 100% which that tlie vastly increases the discomfort and they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/337">TS</a>]

00:05:46   frustrated when people from Arizona then tell you how was a hundred and five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49   degrees out today the guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52   Arizona your 105 degrees is lovely I have gone briefly hiking in Arizona in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/352">TS</a>]

00:06:01   hundred-plus degree weather and is totally fine if you bring enough water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/361">TS</a>]

00:06:05   because the humidity is 0 the water just flows through you and you have a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/365">TS</a>]

00:06:11   air conditioning system by the end of the if the if the committee is a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/371">TS</a>]

00:06:15   percent your body has no recourse to cool down and you're just like a sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/375">TS</a>]

00:06:21   shaggy dog lying on the floor with its tongue out desperately trying to cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/381">TS</a>]

00:06:26   off Parque on the red it has discovered that Dayton Ohio does indeed have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/386">TS</a>]

00:06:33   fashion week then this date in Fashion Week dot com just because there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/393">TS</a>]

00:06:39   people that were noticing that the wedding ideas that you actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/399">TS</a>]

00:06:43   didn't seem to believe that Fashion Week exists I still don't have any idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/403">TS</a>]

00:06:49   it is is this week where people are extra fashionable the holiday like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/409">TS</a>]

00:06:58   designers you know like the big fancy just not growing industries the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/418">TS</a>]

00:07:04   fancy fashion houses they have fashion shows where they show off their new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/424">TS</a>]

00:07:09   collections and they do them in different parts of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/429">TS</a>]

00:07:13   ok that doesn't make any sense why Dayton Ohio as a fashion week then how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/433">TS</a>]

00:07:18   many fashion designers in the world can there possibly be that mean I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/438">TS</a>]

00:07:22   that this is local designers if you look at the date with leather crafts clothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/442">TS</a>]

00:07:28   week is that what you're saying in dayton ohio is in London it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/448">TS</a>]

00:07:35   thing the dayton ohio Fashion Week in 2012 so I don't think it did very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/455">TS</a>]

00:07:42   but it existed there were people in Denton that was showing off their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/462">TS</a>]

00:07:46   fashions but I'm not sure if it went much further and obviously it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/466">TS</a>]

00:07:53   know unfortunately maybe all of this additional promotion for Dana may help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/473">TS</a>]

00:08:00   them bring back the fashion week we can only hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/480">TS</a>]

00:08:05   campaign this can be like our campaign I didn't realize we're invested in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/485">TS</a>]

00:08:14   now I'm not invested in this high I don't even understand what this is I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/494">TS</a>]

00:08:19   bring back Dayton Ohio fashion week maybe we could do our first live cortex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/499">TS</a>]

00:08:24   from Dayton Ohio for Fashion Week what do you think now disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/504">TS</a>]

00:08:29   designers and models walking down runways and what faction leaders it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/509">TS</a>]

00:08:37   like WWDC for the fashion world except in multiple cities it's like an industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/517">TS</a>]

00:08:43   event where they show off what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/523">TS</a>]

00:08:46   comparing the WBC that should be a really good comparison people come for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/526">TS</a>]

00:08:50   the event they go to the shows and business this is the same thing then as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/530">TS</a>]

00:08:55   Dayton Ohio having their own local Apple party during the week of WWDC that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/535">TS</a>]

00:09:01   what this is it's basically the Mac user group equivalent of a Fashion Week ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/541">TS</a>]

00:09:07   alright I understand now I think many people are very interested to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/547">TS</a>]

00:09:15   and Twitter to see in the idea of you streaming the games that you play oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/555">TS</a>]

00:09:21   yeah we had our we had our unexpected video game podcast last week which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/561">TS</a>]

00:09:27   frustrating to listen to you because I was not even remotely prepared for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   and I kept thinking I didn't mention this game where that came with all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33   other things we've got a lot of feedback about that I get this requests a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/573">TS</a>]

00:09:39   people want to see what are called let's play videos or just streaming stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/579">TS</a>]

00:09:46   with members of the audience who might not be aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   let let's plays are a huge huge part of the online video world that you I there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/589">TS</a>]

00:09:58   are deep into or don't know anything about it is when someone is recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/598">TS</a>]

00:10:02   themselves playing a video game usually with some kind of running commentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/602">TS</a>]

00:10:08   over the top and I do not watch Let's Plays except with aches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/608">TS</a>]

00:10:14   extremely rare exception because I don't get very much out of them this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/614">TS</a>]

00:10:20   I feel like there's a bit of a cultural divide if I was younger I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/620">TS</a>]

00:10:24   appreciate this form of media but I don't really get let's play's most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/624">TS</a>]

00:10:30   them I find them just uninteresting and so when people say why don't you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/630">TS</a>]

00:10:36   let's play videos the problem here is that I the only let's play video that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/636">TS</a>]

00:10:41   have ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   are obviously requiring an enormous amount of work to do either one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/643">TS</a>]

00:10:49   like and the ones that I don't like I don't appreciate the form at all I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/649">TS</a>]

00:10:55   understand why people watch them or what makes them good they just seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   pointlessly dumb to me and so this is why it's it's at an unhappy intersection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/658">TS</a>]

00:11:05   for a project of mine to do it it seems like it's an easy project but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/665">TS</a>]

00:11:11   understand what makes the ones that look like they're easy to do good or I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/671">TS</a>]

00:11:15   appreciate what makes those good and the one that I think are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/675">TS</a>]

00:11:19   are obviously hugely labor-intensive and would just be a whole other job to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/679">TS</a>]

00:11:24   that's why I don't don't think I'll ever do let's please visit ok so there I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/684">TS</a>]

00:11:34   name drop here when I think of as a great example of a let's play done well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/694">TS</a>]

00:11:39   which is which is a guy called eagle rush on YouTube and he has a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/699">TS</a>]

00:11:45   called Iron Man impossible which is Forex com and that is perhaps the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/705">TS</a>]

00:11:50   Let's Play series I have ever watched for any great length because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/710">TS</a>]

00:11:56   walking through the game but he's talking about the strategy used to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/716">TS</a>]

00:12:01   on each level and most importantly he's doing all the voice over after he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/721">TS</a>]

00:12:07   played through and so he's cutting all of the interesting parts and making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/727">TS</a>]

00:12:11   go much faster than a normal game actually would have a lot of that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/731">TS</a>]

00:12:16   lot of work to do but I think they are very good because of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19   this is turned into the missing you say this now it's kind of turned into a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/739">TS</a>]

00:12:24   unexpected cortex you like topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   which I was I wasn't expecting this but says it's raised a question for me it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/746">TS</a>]

00:12:32   undeniable that the type of let's play that people have asked for which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/752">TS</a>]

00:12:36   basically just watching you play the game and even in silence you could be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/756">TS</a>]

00:12:41   silence and just have the audio of the game going on and people just observe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44   the way that you play or you could just talk about what you're doing as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/764">TS</a>]

00:12:48   doing it doesn't need to be running like I did this because there is a market for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/768">TS</a>]

00:12:54   this type of stuff because there are people that these channels there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   people that make lots of money doing this kind of thing where it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   simple even twitch stream just think people so there is a market for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/779">TS</a>]

00:13:07   there are people that would like to see it that you do it there and you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/787">TS</a>]

00:13:13   to be playing the games anyway so what's stopping you from just doing the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/793">TS</a>]

00:13:20   bare minimum and just doing it you're playing the games it doesn't it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/800">TS</a>]

00:13:25   gonna take a lot of effort you to to stream them especially gaming on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/805">TS</a>]

00:13:30   horizon you have done stuff like this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/810">TS</a>]

00:13:34   there are videos on your way to channel where you've shown yourself playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/814">TS</a>]

00:13:39   video games every once in a while I do screen recording of when I'm playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/819">TS</a>]

00:13:44   game and I will put it up on my YouTube channel as a time-lapse video so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/824">TS</a>]

00:13:50   take a game that I played over and over many hours and compress it down into 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/830">TS</a>]

00:13:54   minutes or so and i think thats with open TTD atrium building game with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/834">TS</a>]

00:14:00   something else I can't remember what else I have tried to do room world when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/840">TS</a>]

00:14:05   I couldn't remember and i was i was just debating doing one with Victorio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/845">TS</a>]

00:14:13   actually I'm coming to the end of my life cycle with that game I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   this way you are wondering if you wanted to do a tutorial I was already I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/856">TS</a>]

00:14:22   finding myself thinking about a process for factorial but interest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/862">TS</a>]

00:14:30   we were just talking about you recognizing that you do every time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/870">TS</a>]

00:14:35   did it again and I will continue to do it every time the thing well as I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/875">TS</a>]

00:14:40   was I caught myself thinking you know I just talked about this on cortex I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/880">TS</a>]

00:14:45   really should do it this time I really should this is actually a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/885">TS</a>]

00:14:53   but it's just another level of my brain trying to trick itself is all that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/893">TS</a>]

00:14:59   happening here but I have a have done the same record the screen and put it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/899">TS</a>]

00:15:04   as a as a time-lapse video and I mean considering the amount of effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/904">TS</a>]

00:15:09   required in the number of views it's it's kind of crazy like be just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/909">TS</a>]

00:15:14   time-lapse video of me playing open TTD is gotten almost one of them's up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/914">TS</a>]

00:15:19   like ninety thousand views just ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   90,000 people watching me play a game like that in and of itself is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/922">TS</a>]

00:15:29   evidence to say that you could do a very bare minimum thing and people watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/929">TS</a>]

00:15:34   so you like then we're very little work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/934">TS</a>]

00:15:40   generate income during the time when you're not making any money this feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/940">TS</a>]

00:15:46   like something that the gray spreadsheets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   doesn't it though of marginal additional effort for exponential value but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/949">TS</a>]

00:15:57   thing is my I find that so I don't really have hobbies because everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/957">TS</a>]

00:16:07   in my life that might start out as a hobby or interest it eventually either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/967">TS</a>]

00:16:12   turns into work or it gets dropped by I have a very hard time maintaining any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/972">TS</a>]

00:16:20   kind of interest that doesn't have multiple purposes in my life is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/980">TS</a>]

00:16:29   this is the problem with having 1 I'm in the same boat having one thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/989">TS</a>]

00:16:34   your hobby that then becomes the way you make your living every time you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/994">TS</a>]

00:16:39   new hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/999">TS</a>]

00:16:40   you wonder she complain much right and I've always have always wanted to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:47   kind of person who was who had a hobby or I wanted to develop skills that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:53   useless in and of themselves but I hope be really great if I could be if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1013">TS</a>]

00:17:01   learn how to do woodcarving right but I know from experience that anytime I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:07   attempted to do these these kinds of intentionally purposeless hobby use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:12   just falls apart immediately or things that I get interested in become work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:21   so I was I was interested in time management a while ago and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:25   became work and I was interested in presentations and how to explain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:29   well and that became work and there's a few other things that i've i've picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:33   up that have become work in some way or another and so I I'm not even sure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:39   would be a good idea just psychologically for me to have not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:45   in my life that doesn't become work and that's why I'm resistance to even doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:51   the bare minimum that people want of talking over a game and putting it up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:58   the Internet is also for me I find I don't know how to explain this but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:03   find that that there's a real activation energy in my mind to speaking out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:12   I'm aware that I don't like a lot of voice interactions with the computers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:18   the phones like Siri I use it weigh less than I probably should because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:24   something in my brain that's hard to get the ball rolling on talking and so if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:31   was playing a game I would that I was recording a commentary for I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:38   to be constantly reminding myself that I'm supposed to be talking to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:43   audience who is listening and then it becomes this whole thing about oh right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:47   and it needs to be entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   and now you're playing a game not just to mess around with whatever but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:54   playing a game in front of an audience of people and that's also why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:58   people even as for the twitch streaming which I barely understand which seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:02   just monstrously complicated are trying to figure out a few times how the heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:06   which works with a broadcast games and it's a whole other a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:11   ecosystem over there but even just live streaming the game I wouldn't want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:15   that because it would just change the nature of em I actually really relaxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:20   or am I still doing work and then never relaxing so that's that's partly why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:24   don't do it even if I could theoretically earn money for very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:29   additional effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   okay I get it I get what youre saying because that idea of them be damaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:39   but there is just a very interesting conundrum could be on paper it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:48   like a great idea but I'm even aware that when I do record the games for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:52   time lapse I feel a little bit different when I'm playing them is not the tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:56   bit but I just have to be more aware of things when I'm doing that well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1196">TS</a>]

00:20:00   very normal like me you before we start this recording and I am completely aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:07   of how I feel as soon as I pressed the wrong button to record yes then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:11   different it's certainly different because they're people listening right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   now talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:17   you are you familiar with PewDiePie nobody who works in the world of YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:22   can be unfamiliar with PewDiePie I have watched a few of his videos he is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:27   number one probably is still the number one youtuber that sometimes a change but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:31   he has been the number one youtuber for quite a while anyway and he does Let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:38   Plays not exclusively but a lot in his videos so that he's been in the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:43   this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:44   people found these paperwork that he had to submit to the government about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:50   earnings and he made in 2014 he made seven million dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:56   so he's naturally he's been in the news because that's a ton of money and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1256">TS</a>]

00:21:01   think in 2013 he made four million yeah he he has been relatively open about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:08   that did an AMA before on red people asked how much he made and and pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:14   much confirmed that that time he was making four million dollars a year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:19   see what our numbers on YouTube curious to see 37.7 million subscribers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:29   comparison I have one point something and he has 9.3 billion views I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:48   hundred and sixty three million views online channels I mean is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:54   dishes to compare it with this is this is the nature of any kind of attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:59   driven field like anything in entertainment for the arts in general is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:05   that it's a power-law distribution that the number one person is going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:10   vastly more than the number two person who has vastly more than the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:14   three person and then you get an exponential drop off as you go as you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:18   further out the line so you should expect that the number one person just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:23   seems ridiculous compared to the number two person think recreated video talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:30   about this and he spoke very from the heart he was talking about where he came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:35   from and how you know he just is a guy who makes the videos you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:41   think these videos are crazy they are kind of like really mad cap you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:45   some people think I just sit down here and just talk to you can appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:51   and he talks about why the villa's make him happy and stuff like that but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:57   seems to be people that want to attack him he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:01   just wondered like you know I'm telling you about this for the first time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:05   but I just wonder how you feel about this like do you have sympathy in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:09   area like that now all of his information is public and he has to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:15   with people criticizing it and analyzing and that kind of thing I just I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:20   sympathy because the Internet allows people to become just crazy famous in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:29   short period of time and you have no frame of reference for that we're deep I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:39   was just a few years ago a normal dude and now he's a dude with close to ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:45   billion views of his material and then just a weird thing to deal with or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:53   have almost forty million subscribers so yeah it's that's a hard thing to handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1433">TS</a>]

00:24:01   in a short period of time and friend from the couple of interviews I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:06   with him and the very few things I read he seems pretty well-adjusted he seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:10   like he handles it as well reasonably well as you can expect anybody to handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:16   this but if there's a reason why it seems like some celebrities just lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:21   their mind as their fame increases because it's surprisingly difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:27   to deal with some of the changes that occur in your life and when you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:31   a normal guy and then suddenly earning seven million dollars a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:35   you know it's not like oh I'm crying in my cereal oh how sad it is less money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:42   that's not what I mean to say but it's just it's a different scenario but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45   people have to have to adjust you haven't watched the video myself but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:50   assuming it's the let's talk about money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   video of his yeah so watches now to think that would be a thing to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:57   watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1497">TS</a>]

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00:26:00   and consequences of developing artificial intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:04   it's one of those books that feels like it's half crazy and half genius and i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1564">TS</a>]

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00:26:34   Bostrom protip here if you find the beginning a little slow going in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:39   little dance because the author is setting up why it is inevitable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1599">TS</a>]

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00:27:23   back then so what did you think of it yes I just watched just took a break I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:28   just watch the video to see what he was saying that I wasn't just talking out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   my butt about things that don't know what he's talking about but he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:36   about two things one of which is that money doesn't make you happy and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:43   definitely something to that there's some actual interesting psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   studies that say once you have filled your needs in life additional money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:51   doesn't make you extra happy so that given that he's earning seven million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:57   dollars versus four million dollars a couple years ago he's not twice as happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:01   as he used to be and save money doesn't mean he doesn't work that way but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:06   one thing he talks about which i think is just sometimes something that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:11   focus on in the economy and particularly the Internet economy and how attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:17   works is people saying that his job is really easy I don't doubt that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:24   videos are more work than they look like because part of the skill is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:28   stuff look like it's easy look like it's simple and fun but the truth is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:33   the economy works is it doesn't actually matter if his job is really easy that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:39   not how compensation works on the internet and that's not how money works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:44   on the internet even if he just has the easiest job in the whole world he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:50   been able to generate a huge audience of people and it is that huge audience that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:55   is valuable to advertisers and is thus related to related to the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1735">TS</a>]

00:29:01   money that he makes but a moral argument that people whose jobs are harder should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:06   be paid more and that's just maybe the universe should work that way but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:11   not really the way economies actually work and people just get people just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:17   mad at people making lots of money for jobs that they perceive as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:22   very easy but it doesn't even matter if they are very easy but that's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:26   how the economy works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   congratulations to PewDiePie yeah so today we're going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:33   potential minefield of a topic which is email I think anybody let's listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:41   her internet will have an idea of how you doin email your relationship with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:48   email is and i wanna talk about that a little bit but before we go into kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:54   how email is for you today as I wanna talk about your relationship with email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1794">TS</a>]

00:30:04   going back a bit further so we can try and frame how you are with it now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:10   why and how that changed when you like when I first get email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:14   well it's you know people's relationships of email changes you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:19   didn't always received hundreds of emails a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   yeah I'm pretty sure my first email account ever it was on prodigy don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:26   think I received very many miles on that account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   know so I I actually do think that it's important to take a look at how you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:36   your email habits have changed because it helps frame and helps explain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:41   people I think why huge deal but the way they do it now so when you get when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:49   first started out with email when you had your party gmail account using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:54   for who knows what I use that prodigy account for i mean that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1854">TS</a>]

00:31:00   back in the middle school days I may have had that email account and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:04   actually sent a message to anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:07   yeah I was just a dumb kid in the world and they eventually graduated onto a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:14   compuserve email address and AOL email address and then I think after lol I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:21   on hotmail for a while and then I went to my university email address this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:26   this is the history of my mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   so I guess that like most people email wasn't an important thing in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:34   and to working yea even at university level I feel that email I used it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:45   was not central to my life and it was it was not even remotely as important as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:51   professors would send out notifications about home worker canceled classes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:55   stuff over email but don't even remember really emailing friends so yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1915">TS</a>]

00:32:01   email didn't come into its full horrible shape until the working world is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:09   email comes into full force explain to me what it was like a male was like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:13   you are working in the school because you know my my email time came when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:21   was part of a massive multi-billion dollar like multinational corporation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:28   so for me like I expect that that is maybe as bad as you get it doesn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:36   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:37   described it now I'll talk about how emails like for me at work in a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:43   and I actually part of my job towards the end of sending emails to millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:47   people which is another really weird thing to do is to do when you receive I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:53   was one of the people that everybody hates but what was email like schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:58   did you get lots and lots everyday like I just can't imagine like when I was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:03   school why teachers would get email does make sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:10   ok the thing is different places have very different email cultures throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:18   the various schools I was at things were quite different but one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:25   common thing that you get a lot of emails about its cool is some problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:29   with some kid about something and because of a lack of technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:36   competence ahead hall of the schools that I worked at these emails would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:41   be sent out to every single teacher so there would be some email like Oh little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:48   susie is sad today because her hamster couple cans died so please be extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:55   sensitive to see today in classes like it's great I don't teach Susie I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2035">TS</a>]

00:34:02   even know who she is why am I getting this e-mail yea oh I'm getting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:07   email because you have just sent this to the list of every single teacher at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:13   school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:14   extra helpful when the email would be phrased in this exact way where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   Susie Susie no last name Susie ok well there are several Susie's description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:23   even so you would get a lot of emails like that because you think if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:29   out of school with a couple hundred kids I was thinking my school might smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:38   schools the meanest was a five years three forms about 20 kids performs thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:46   about 300 kids is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:47   my school had over 2000 students so I taught at a school that was like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:54   but three out of the four schools that I taught we're in the hundreds of students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2094">TS</a>]

00:35:01   range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   but even when you're talking about hundreds of kids there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   something that's going on and so you get a bunch of emails just about all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:10   of stuff that's happening with all of the students and that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   frustrating because you're trying to filter through the stuff that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:16   relevant to you don't care about the stuff that's not relevant to you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:22   one of the kinds of things that you can email about this also we stuff about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   policy updates or when meetings have been changed all the normal kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:28   corporate stuff when you have a bunch of humans together trying to arrange things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:33   but what I say that email cultures can be different is that at the school I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:39   teach at that had thousands of kids no longer hundreds of kids and there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:45   hundreds of teachers this one's cool allowed a thing that I will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:50   understand why wasn't crushed they had and email all staff button that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2150">TS</a>]

00:36:00   staff member had access to now what people use this for was as a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:11   Craigslist in the school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   oh my god if I had been the headmaster of that school this is one of the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:24   first things I would have put a stop to but I would log into my email address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:28   and every day there would be several I'm selling my ten speed gear bike you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:36   it's it's from 2005 hardly used it blew here's a picture message me back if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:41   wanna know bringing it to school in the next day or have a surfboard that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:47   haven't used in a while if anybody wants to buy let me know and there was just no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:51   there was no ethnic at about this like it wasn't an issue though it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:56   issue I feel like I was one of the few people who who was pleading for this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2216">TS</a>]

00:37:02   stop but everybody else was like oh is this is this is useful if I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:06   something I'll just try to try to sell it but guys there's too many humans here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:12   there's too many point to point things that people want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   out you shouldn't let any member of staff be able to email another member of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:20   staff and that that was one of the worst email cultures I had ever seen but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:27   in general when you have large groups of people together you have the the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:32   that I was death by carbon copy because of the way humans are there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:40   combination of people wanting to feel important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:44   stroke people covering their own ass which results to if there's any doubt at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:52   all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:52   carbon copy everybody that this thing might potentially be related to and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:58   that's that's what email is like in school and I'm sure just like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   companies have just so much stuff that ranges from the absurd that shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:07   here like the Craigslist system to the just simply frustrating like Susie who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:14   don't teach but I'm still getting emails about her to everyone I work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:19   feeling the need to carbon copy everybody about everything so that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:23   butts are all covered or that these people feel important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:27   that's that's what I'm sure this this doesn't sound wildly unfamiliar to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:32   in your corporate setting this is a very interesting because that is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:41   similar to what it was like for me which is just surprises me that a school is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:47   kind of like a big soldiers corporation in that regard we didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:53   greatness that you had that would not be allowed there were like Department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:59   newsletters where people might be able to throw something in there that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:03   sent out on a Friday you know which was fine there was one that included a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:07   really off-color joke which was incredible that it went out and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:12   there was like this is one time and then there was an email sent like an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:16   later which was an attempt to retract the joke very weird but that was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:21   my favorite things that ever happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   be rescinded his joke like it was never there in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:28   that's how these things work there's no memory hole guys but we had we had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:35   thing because it was the idea of everybody always was just trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:41   sure they won't get fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:44   that's just a fact I was the biggest problem corporate culture and so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:48   basically just people would send out emails and copy and everyone that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:52   thought was important or that they should know like Taylor was a project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:56   there was some kind of project which had multiple layers of task forces in teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:00   that ended up with a hundred people on them and you will get copied in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:06   there will be a conversation between two people and 25 emails later you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:10   in the chain I got lots of this like you know I would go away I remember one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:14   I was away for one afternoon and one day and I had seven hundred and fifty miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:21   which is no way to work it's just the worst there are so many emails that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:27   could have just been in-person conversations believable wanna have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:31   these the portrayal yeah they just wanna have them because like why not wanna put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:36   it in their cars in maybe somebody else will pick it up at some point so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:40   actually think that this conversation is important because I can see now where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:44   some of your problem comes from where you are bombarded all day with pointless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:52   email really does change the way you think about it because then I started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:57   apply some of my anger towards email to even a nicer email I get which is email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:04   about this kind of stuff so I have always been the inclination like you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:09   be very very strict about the way the email work in my life however I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:17   somethings I'll tell you about a bit I'm sure really hard for you but you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:26   be surprised I am vastly regretting suggesting email as a topic I brought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:32   up because it's been on my mind what has been a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   because gmail has become more of a problem for me lately it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:38   recorded that episode of hello internet like a year ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:42   resting I was hoping that was the case oh you were hoping I was having problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:46   with my email great thanks Mike when you start out with you choose the fan mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:54   began how did originally tree and how did it make you feel just as hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2514">TS</a>]

00:42:00   original need to have the disclaimer that we're sound like a total jerk here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:04   but both going to is totally fine grater in safe environment line we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:09   sound terrible next couple of days when you first receive this kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:19   it's it's very nice but it's also just a validation that what you are doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:26   appreciated by people so if you make something and you put it out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:31   world and people respond in a positive way that is an indication that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:38   something that people like because you can't ask people in your life but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:44   do you think of this thing that I've made because they can't possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47   objective the best thing that you can get is positive feedback from someone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:52   the internet who is totally on invested in your situation so that the fan mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:58   is is nice at the beginning because it is part of this positive feedback system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:04   but I don't know I have always been doing stuff on the internet for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:09   time and and so I have always just been aware of of the email as it's very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:18   to even just a deal with emails as though they are from people when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:22   from strangers that's what I mean it's like the bulk of it is a good signal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:28   the particulars of any individual email it's it can be hard to evaluate what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:34   that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   but when you start getting those emails if you are then making something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:42   becomes increasingly popular the number of those emails increases and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:47   value of anyone individually decreases and as a friend of mine Eric Liam has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:56   said that the the value of positive feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:59   trends toward zero at the initial positive feedback is very valuable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:05   much later on each additional piece of positive feedback its marginal utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:11   is almost zero and that's just a strange position to to be in to be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:18   receiving end of so I'm gonna try and dig out of the problem that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:25   perceived when talking about this type of feedback ok is not that I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:33   to receive feedback and/or here nice things from people about the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:38   they enjoy it because I love that I love to receive the problem is it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:49   against the amount it is the inbuilt problems with emails system and email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:55   etiquette horribly broken thing which make this type of communication more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2695">TS</a>]

00:45:02   difficult to deal with because one of the problems with email is that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:10   not a this is where the nice stuff goes box because all the email goes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:19   same place goes into that Winehouse count or that one at which houses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:25   main email accounts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   so the problem is I can't go in there very easily and be like just show me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:34   nice stuff and ignore the fact that it's very possible for me to tell the filter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:40   or do a search and just to do it that way but it doesn't detract from the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   that there is still the office staff and that this mental block this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:47   full perspective of what's in there because there are mechanisms of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:53   that I love and I know that you love which can even in some instances houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:59   much text as an email can can house like for example champion as a feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:06   method but it has a very very different set of inbuilt social rules that make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:14   a more welcoming place to receive feedback for me and I feel the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:20   about this way with Twitter as well because email a social responsibility to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:27   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:27   of replying because people draw from email that the ideas of email came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:34   letters physical letters and when someone wrote you a letter you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:39   write them a letter back because when this correspondence kind of thing began [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:45   it was like wow that's the main amount of letters do you get those types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:48   things you would respond back to what the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51   brands live in email and you know they send you stuff and business happens or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:57   email and stuff comes through that way so the idea of bread and other social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:03   methods of feedback a much more welcoming because I think that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:08   generally don't expect replies in the same way when you throw something out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:14   into the red for example even more so because I think read it is more clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:20   that email because twitter is very limited in what you can say ready you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23   can just chat and keep talking people know that you're there and reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:29   and other people can respond to it and converse about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:32   so it becomes a very different thing it's a more public thing but from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:37   comments I've seen in the rate of this show people don't seem to church don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:42   don't really change the types of stuff that they say that they would say by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   they say the same kinds of things maybe even more so in the reddit people more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:50   honest than they would be an email because they're addressing everyone as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:55   well as just so they may speak about 135 anyway so that kind of those methods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2875">TS</a>]

00:48:03   in the social feelings about that type of feedback works a lot better for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:09   and I know that I thought it works better for you as well yeah things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:14   Twitter and read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:17   do not carry the same burden of reply that emails do so I feel no obligation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:26   to reply to everything on my Twitter stream I don't even I am NOT a Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:30   completionist when I log onto to it are often just you know right to the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:34   past hundreds of messages because there's just there's that social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:38   obligation is not there and in the same thing on Reddit where I'm there i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:43   the comments but I feel that there is no obligation to reply to every single one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:47   and people on read it also have that understanding of your not going to reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:53   to every single comment that here you're going to pick and choose what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:57   going to reply to so that email is different because it point-to-point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:01   yes everything about email even even the app icons reinforces the letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:06   relationship that email has that this is much more like a letter and someone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:12   written this thing to you and he knows services systems and tools including the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:17   way that badges work and stuff like that reinforce the idea that everything is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:22   his needs to be worked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   ok unlikely so we post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   podcast on line and put it up on read it and the people are discussing it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29   record we can go through we can look at the feedback and that's great it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:33   because it's also constrained to know was not on the reddit my tax accounted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:40   also telling me about stuff that needs to happen with my tax rates it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:46   wide-ranging discussion that includes everybody in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:50   who's even tangentially connected to me attempting to get my attention and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:57   is this is one of the problems with email is it is unbound in who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:05   reaching out to you so when I open my email I can have messages from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:14   business partners from banks from family from friends it's the whole spectrum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:24   life is there an email which is why I think it ends up for many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   becoming such a like a focus of problems because your email icon when you press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:34   it this is the button that says I am now going to look at all of their requests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:39   that everybody in the world has of me that's that's what email functionally is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:46   and that's why it can be quite difficult to deal with because it's also filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:50   with many different kinds of requests things that can take two seconds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:54   things that can take hours and hours and that that also makes it much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:59   difficult words on Twitter if I wanted to be a Twitter completionist I could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:03   through that timeline really quickly because the domain of the problem of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:07   responding to anybody on Twitter is limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   I'm never going to respond to anybody with more than a sentence or two if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:13   get an email from someone it can represent a whole afternoon's worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:18   work of digging through papers in my house for example that the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:22   that can come through email or it's just someone sending me a funny picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:26   then I can respond just with all that was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   it's just it's so varied and so expansive in its nature it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:36   difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   to deal with in a consistent manner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:41   let's talk about the types of emails that we get so close I i'm interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:46   painting a picture of the variation and how that stuff works so primarily my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:53   emails are split into two camps but she's information about sponsors and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:58   back they are my two main comes with a very interesting Lee I am shocked at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:04   little email I received about the show I'm like a handful of people really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:11   understand is great and they go to a fantastic and I love the people doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:16   that cuz I really liked it so email is incredibly important for my business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:22   because of the sponsor stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   lot of it goes through there so people contacting me the sponsorship contacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:29   sponsor's information when we changed a lot that way it's how I arranged this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:34   show to make money and all of our options to make money and it's also how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:38   in some instances for a bunch of our shows how I hear from listeners those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:44   two things are very important but then you couple that with email newsletters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:51   mailing lists companies contacting me interested in I guess the patience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:57   business I just don't care about all of this other stuff but when you put all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:01   that on top it makes it even harder to get to those two kinds of emails are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:05   important I don't really have a lot of filters in place for dealing with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:12   kind of stuff do you so I looked up something about my email before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:19   started the show just wait for you and I get when I open up my email client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:26   averaged over the past month I usually get about a hundred and fifty emails a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:32   day now that is after several dozen filters that I have set up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:42   automatically delete all kinds of stuff well can you give me examples of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:46   types of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47   deleted or archived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:51   tons of notifications from various websites but I can't figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:55   stop them send me the notifications LinkedIn I'm looking at you just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3235">TS</a>]

00:54:00   even try Facebook is the same way Facebook I know I've told you many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:07   Facebook every email you about this stuff so I have a bunch of book filters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:11   for that that's the easiest kind of stuff I have some more complicated 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:16   have joked about his I do have a filter I forget the exact phrase but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   something like I am a reporter from just automatically delete that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:23   interested interesting thing so I have a bunch of filters like that just usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:33   if this kind of notification stuff that's hard to figure out how to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:37   go away that that's the bulk of it I'm trying to read elite non actionable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:43   stuff that I don't need to see but after after that level there's still about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:49   hundred and fifty emails a day and those are messages that are sent almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:56   exclusively directly to me and they're largely from people there from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3296">TS</a>]

00:55:02   who have watched the videos were there from people who are reaching out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:06   business reasons or their people that I know in my life who work emailing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:10   those messages in a perfect world I would say eighty percent of them would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:18   have some kind of action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:21   attached to them into that there would be some kind of reply even if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24   just to say thanks writing an ideal world record infinite time there would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:29   be something to be done with me be percent of those messages so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:33   that's what i'm looking at on it on a daily basis and it was interesting to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:39   check against I listened to that episode of hello Internet an email before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:43   started recording so just curious what was it at the time and so when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:47   recording then I was estimated I was getting about 5,200 messages a day so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:52   the space of a year it's you know it's increased by fifty seventy-five percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:57   something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   so that episode of how absurd number six it will be in the shadows today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:02   recommended listening but not required for discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:07   enough exchange but I also did listen to it again today examine it to just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:12   sure that I was completely confident and while wanted to talk to you about so of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:17   the email that breaks through those filters what it what is it broken down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:22   into what are the categories of email that then lands in your inbox I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:27   just stay for the record as well at the moment I probably get in the region of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:31   like thirty to fifty miles a day I reckon that kind of what would you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:37   me what kind what kind of message yeah what when it because you know my my type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:43   of email breaks down into may only contact from sponsors and feedback from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:47   the snows director biggest campaign email I received was like what I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:51   that feedback is obviously a large portion but what what else is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:57   breaks through that limit yes feedback a huge portion of which is people telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:04   me how I'm wrong about something that's a lot of emails people love to point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:10   stuff in the videos do you wanna get that here's the thing I have rarely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:19   found that to be useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22   we've spoken already about like there's little you can do it once it's up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:27   there's little you can do about it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:31   the other thing when I say pleased that I am wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:35   largely what I get emails from people telling me about how I've simplified the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:40   situation and yeah this was a four-minute video on the internets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:48   covering a hundred years of history I i didnt touch on everything but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:52   people want to point out things that I have left out of the video and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:56   emails I just almost always delete immediately if you can get a good sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3476">TS</a>]

00:58:00   of what they are from just skimming them very briefly like first sentence first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:04   sentence ok delete your just a person who wants to do you want to demonstrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:08   to me that you know a lot about this topic and like that's great if I got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:13   of these a week but I get ten of these a day and so i cant read these are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:19   going to respond to these is just not going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:23   other times people send me ideas for videos in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:28   topics that they want me to cover its feedback from from people but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:33   there's a lot of stuff that just falls into the category of business email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:39   things that are related to the running of my business and those are the emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:45   that are harder to deal with because they take much more time my current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:53   system which is not working great but it's better than nothing right now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:58   that I have on my Mac some smart folders which are trying to filter out the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:05   that's coming into broadly speaking three groups to the first group are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:11   people that I have explicitly labeled as the VIPs the second group which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:19   useful as the one ones that are people who are in my address book but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:26   necessarily labeled explicitly as VIPs and then the third group is everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:32   not in those two groups so someone who has sent me an email and they are not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:38   my personal address book that's how I'm trying to triage the email as it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:44   in if you listen to that hello Internet podcast from a year ago I was much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:50   better at email then I am now I have gotten worse that email in the past year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:56   what does this mean worse means it's taking longer to reply to messages then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3596">TS</a>]

01:00:05   is ideal that that's what I mean by worse ok so there's an enormous number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:10   of emails that I am just not going to reply to this is not going to happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:14   so I archive them are a delete them they're just they're just passing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:17   through the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   but here's the thing is is that now that I've triage gmail into these three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:26   groups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:26   the problem is that messages from people i've explicitly marked as VIPs generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:33   speaking these are not simple emails to reply to the emails if they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:39   business-related that take a long time to do or that require thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:44   they're usually not just quick responses and so when I'm going through my email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:51   what I'm trying to do is working from the top down in the VIPs but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:56   these emails are longer emails and the they take more time I'm finding that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3656">TS</a>]

01:01:03   have a hard enough time just getting through the VIP section of my email list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:07   I haven't cleared that folder out in a while which then doesn't mean good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:13   things for the next level down which are just the people who are in my address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:17   book but not necessarily explicitly marked as VIPs and then it's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:23   strange to me but I have now also become one of these people who has a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:27   number of unread messages because that third level of triage the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:33   not in my address book at all I haven't gotten to the bottom of that in a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:40   time so this is this is something that is different for me and when I get year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:46   ago be used to be much better at clearing out my email but current me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:51   is not and it's partly because the volume of emails have gone up but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:58   also partly because the number of projects that I'm working on has gone up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01   and so actually I am dedicating much less time in my schedule to getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:07   through email and so that's why there's like a backlog building up but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:12   hard to it's very hard to say that any any moment in time is grinding through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:21   my email does that is that a more valuable task to work on right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:25   then getting the next video out or working on the next podcast and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:30   answer to that is no email is usually filled with problems it's it's not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:38   much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:39   projects that I can move to completion and then share with the world that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:44   of the things that I'm having a bit of difficulty with e-mail is like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:47   more of it and because I'm doing many more projects now I'm also dedicating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:52   less time to it and so that's why there's like a there's a backflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:56   building up in my in my system so you mentioned that there's typically a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3776">TS</a>]

01:03:01   of work related stuff going into there to help you run your business but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:06   how is that being affected by the fact that you now spending less time in email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:12   is this is this is what I was talking about last time a little bit is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:16   kind of problems do you let into your system and there are definitely things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:21   that have come up because I have not replied to emails fast enough but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:26   system of my business getting out videos and getting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:31   podcast like fixes that problem I'll give you an example of just silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:36   problem happened recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:37   ok which is so have the three levels VIPs contacts and then grind everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:43   else is what is called ya call the grind love it great asset a great name the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:50   reason I call the grind is because that's what it takes to get rid of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:54   yet these are two different kinds of groups of email VIPs and contacts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3834">TS</a>]

01:04:01   emails that require me to be thinking about the things that can't be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:06   easily whereas the grind emails our emails that I can do in the delete flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:14   to leave a reply mode of I'm just trying to burn through these as fast as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:19   possible to get this number down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   on lower so I wanted to clarify that that is the process of going through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:26   Mbox and just triaging it on like that goes that goes need to come back to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:31   goes that goes to come back to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:34   yeah yeah that's that's more or less what I'm doing there with with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:37   messages because they're usually messages from people that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:41   or their their automated messages from banks or whatever they can be gun they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:49   can be gone through in a very fast mode but the reason I separate them out is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:54   because I was I was finding that I was having a problem where I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:59   go through email and as I was going through it very quickly i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:05   motive like right delete delete delete delete replyDelete to leave if I hit an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:09   email that was a big deal so like say something from my accounting right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:14   to need to gather a whole bunch of papers together that that changes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:21   flow of how this thing goes and and so I found I found it helpful to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:27   filter out these two groups that's one of the big changes new system is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:32   phone masts filtering yeah that's that's different now from a year ago but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:37   the silly problem hope was going to mention or really silly but everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:43   recently moved my parents from one email system to another but this meant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:50   their email address changed their email address changed I forgot to update this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:57   in my system and so I basically I've been missing out on two weeks worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3957">TS</a>]

01:06:05   increasingly sad messages about I haven't heard from you know I talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:11   my parents the other day and realized how do I need to go back into the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:16   and pull them out of the grind folder by updating the Smart Filters about there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:21   you go in there and now now I'm looking at if I look at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:26   VIP section there's four emails from my parents about flights so interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:33   me that you communicate with family members the email I would prefer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:43   different method of communication area the other thing with the email with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:50   flights is just that there's a lot to write in this information is going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53   and forth copied and pasted so e-mail e-mail kinda does make sense in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:58   scenario to use but this this fall's right back into my problem of email is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:03   just containing a large number of different things and that's why I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:10   business mode and then oh but now I'm replying to my parents about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:14   like an entirely different person writes this email then writes a negotiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:19   email over a great see the rain has had to switch gears a lot this is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:24   illustration of one of the big problems than me and you i think is it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:31   system of chaos which I don't deal with very world typically things are chaotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:37   like that and I think that you prefer to have things more organized but email is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:43   just chaos because you can't you cannot be in one mode trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:49   yeah because like my email is there is business things there are emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:53   things like you know there are things you don't care about their things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:58   really care about like it's impossible for me to get into a mindset and deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:03   with email so I try and just deal with it as soon as possible that is my my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:11   method of email is okay so here's the thing it's gonna terrify you I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:18   notifications on for all the email so every email I can I get a notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:23   on my Mac or on my watch or my phone using yeah I know this I've seen this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:30   action in person cause you have some but the thing is to me is that then I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:35   need to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:36   into time to do email mode because the stuff that is important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:41   gets picked up or I'm at least aware of it so then I just go into it but I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:46   incredibly good at ignoring emails I don't want to deal with right now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:52   if there is any luck comes in I don't do it right now I don't go to my email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:55   books and infant me personally what that does is it allows me to not have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4135">TS</a>]

01:09:02   into email mode and then have to deal with all the craziness that could come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:07   from it so I can just kind of deal of it as a money too and also mailbox I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:13   notifications I have stuff I never wanna see I just I never even see it when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:19   open my emails is gone already see a subject line not interested or see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:24   ascendant not interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   archived even an email so that that works for me because then I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:32   effectively tree Arjun constantly and plus with the type of work that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:36   sometimes there are emails that I want to work on immediately there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:42   something that comes in a request that comes in or something like that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:46   want to do it straight away so it works that way even though like I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:50   kind of contradicts the chaos idea that works a lot better for me than opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:56   an email inbox in there be fifty things in their closed at freaks me more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4196">TS</a>]

01:10:01   anything else seeing that really long list I don't like that so yes dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:06   with it more frequently makes me feel more comfortable yeah I can I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:12   totally see that because I hate the long list as well and one of things I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:19   found surprising is actually like doing email on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:26   partly because there's no way to see the long list of emails on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:30   there's just one email that takes up the whole screen and I reply to it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   i archived it and then the next message just comes up there's no selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:37   there's no choice there's no list of everything it's just try to make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:44   go away one at a time when there is the in books list but I mean what once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:48   click on Email its full screen its full screen and now you're not looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:53   whereas the things I hate about mass mail on the Mac even though I do like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:59   generally is there's no real way to hide the long list of emails on the side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:04   just like in the way I use OmniFocus in and getting things done I find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:08   extremely helpful to limit the number of things that you can see that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:15   work on so even when I have a long list of stuff and army focus I've tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:20   set it up so that only focus is only showing me three things that can be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:24   right now even if I have a hundred things to do in the day on the three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:28   them ever show up at a time and email I wish I could have email on my Mac work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:34   more like that of I don't wanna see the long list i just want to see the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:39   email that I'm replying to now I don't want to see all of the emails that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:43   need to reply to all at once its I just don't find it I don't find it helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:47   but I think you are right about the about the mood of email is a tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:54   thing this is the lesson I have learned about myself about working is it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:59   very helpful to maintain modes an email just does not have a consistent state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:05   it's it's very very variable overtime time question for ya that big box of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:15   email the client list that have bigger and bigger and bigger and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:20   processing least one to do it for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:26   what about the elusive personal system well you mention that because just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:32   couple of days ago I actually had my personal assistant agreed to filter off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:38   a certain amount of email so I have been trying to figure out ways to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:45   this problem go away because I'm again you talking to me that a kind of funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:51   hi my suggested the email topic because it's been on my mind because precisely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:55   now I find myself again in a situation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:58   this is not working well your current systems or something needs to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:02   that I am a firm believer in when something is not working well in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:08   life just trying harder is always the wrong answer that is never the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:15   answer to to improving stuff you need to figure out how to change the system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:20   make things better if there is a problem as a systemic issue for the problem yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:25   and it's like you want to you want to automate the solution in some way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:29   just change what the system is because I know full well ok I am going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:36   spending less and less time on email going forward so I need to figure out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:41   way so that stuff still happens or what you know what needs to come to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:45   attention comes to my attention because in the past few months I've been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:49   aware that email has become this this kind of black hole for people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:53   trying to contact me about various things and it just isn't working out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:57   a while but the but the problem with email is it's so central to everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4437">TS</a>]

01:14:03   like I can't just turn over my email accounts to anybody because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:12   connecting point for everything in my whole digital life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:17   gmail is email addresses that control say my youtube account like he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:22   too valuable no matter how much you trust anybody to turn that over directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:28   so I'm trying to figure out ways to with filters in things diverge a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:34   amount of email to my personal assistant for just straight up processing forums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:40   I'm trying to remove myself as the connecting point from certain kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:46   of conversations that are occurring where I am the bottleneck in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:50   conversation between three ppl is there a way that I can remove myself as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:54   bottleneck from here because that is a permanent solution as opposed to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:59   I'm just going to buckle down and dedicate two hours every day to email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:03   which then has knock-on effects of producing fewer videos and podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:07   that's that's not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:08   good that's not a good solution how does specialization works is if you are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:15   at something you should do the things that you are good at and you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:19   do the things that you're not good and I'm increasingly aware that I am at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:24   level of email that it doesn't make it doesn't make sense for me to be trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:29   to do all of this in the way that a year ago I could still be on top of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:36   whereas now I'm no longer on top of it is just too much just how much I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:41   happy to say that this week's episode of cortex is brought to you by igloo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:45   International actually like a clue is a great sponsor for this week's episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:48   because we're talking about like dealing with email inside of companies and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:52   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:53   well igloo is a great way to get rid of a lot of the junk rubbish email that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:58   don't have to deal with because it is a great place the you to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:02   coordinate and talk to and liaised with your co-workers igloo enables you to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:07   able to be wherever you wanna be into the type of work you wanna do whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:11   you're a manager at Asus laptop during a meeting or Shura status updates with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:15   your colleagues about the sale that you just made from your phone as you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:18   your way out the door or maybe you want to access the latest version of a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:22   from home of a different email inbox to find it all living in its designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:28   fantastically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:29   you will feel like a place that you actually wanna be is really configurable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:33   and you can completely rebranded to give it a look and feel of your team you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:37   set up everybody's groups basis exactly as they want they have a great drag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:41   drop which editor enables you to organize the whole platform to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:44   exactly how each of your teams operate with a glue used very easily share files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:49   of your coworkers about having to send them on massive email change your just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:52   able to go into a document previewing engine and grab the latest version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:56   the files there or you can integrate with services like box drive in Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4616">TS</a>]

01:17:01   and put them into one big easy to secure super lockdown platform they also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:06   some read receipts as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   documents that you can track who has read and looked at information is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:12   another great way to reduce the email that goes around the company asking have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:16   you checked this document can you see if bob shake this document you can just log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:20   into it and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:21   it was a great wave you to work with your team collaborate with your team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:26   share information with your team and just everybody can work better together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:29   when they're using a clue it's time to break away from an Internet you hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:34   goings-on at the clear right now and you can try it out for free of any team of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:37   up to 10 people for as long as you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:40   sign up right now I dot com slash cortex thank you so much for their support this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:45   show and rely on the internet the way that you look at you look at you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:53   have read the first line C and then kind of rape suspect that the first paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:58   read this first and second paragraph good understanding of what the emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:04   content is do you still use this kind of way when you are going through email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:11   that you're not necessarily familiar with this kind of a similar system still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:15   you kind of just like glance at the first line and it gives you a good what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:19   you feel is give you a good idea of what you need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:23   yeah that's still what I'm doing what I'm going through the grind section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:27   my email is site skimming those emails very fast and making very snap judgments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:34   about if anything needs to be done with those overwhelmingly the answer is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:40   but yes that is that is still something that I do when I'm going through emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:44   that are not from people in my address book is one of the reasons I mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:48   this because I found gmail have sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:51   oh yeah yeah and it's in russia took a screenshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:57   system first email I have sent you having listened to a previously I set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4737">TS</a>]

01:19:04   up very differently to the way that I usually write these types of emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:07   I wanted to interview you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:09   memory of this I can see this looks like a response I tried the DCT see how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:19   written so it starts off how mister gray I'm writing to see if you would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:24   interested in being a guest on my new interview podcast sometime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:28   lisa is nothing like the way I usually write this email to people this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:32   following my advice on that hello internet show of open with what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:36   exactly so I very much with it is because usually I started explaining Who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:43   I am which I know is exactly not what you're looking for but the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:49   surprised me the most about these replied the very next day like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:56   like what you said no and you were very courteous in the way that you said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4796">TS</a>]

01:20:00   and you were very kind to me and you had proven that you would read the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:04   I'll be sure to check out the new show launches which I was that that was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:09   good to me because you're acknowledging me and then saying that you would listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:13   to my podcast which was very nice of you but yeah I just wanted to include that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:19   think yes this is you send me an email asking me to be on inquisitive and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:28   I said hi mike thanks for the invitation but afraid of not doing other podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:33   at this time I'll be sure to check out the new show when it launches this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:37   now the show that has become your music interview show well at that interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:46   people about what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:47   oh yeah now I know but I just think it's funny but now it's now you are on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:52   podcast with me and I'm telling you how I don't listen to the show that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:55   first approach but yeah I don't know I don't remember this at all so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4855">TS</a>]

01:21:04   what year year ago pretty much a year ago exactly but now this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:10   structured well for reaching out reaching out to someone but yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:14   replied the next day and if you if someone was emailing me now it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:20   likely that I wouldn't reply for months if at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:24   increasingly worse in a very very quick period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:30   yeah what is what has happened is that I used to look at email every day and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:40   time that interval has gotten longer and longer between times that I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:48   email so now it's much more like a fortnightly e-mail schedule where I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:53   literally don't open email look at it for longer and longer periods of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:58   and it's it's this combination of things that I just email is is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4918">TS</a>]

01:22:07   physical mail right where it is an enormous amount of stuff that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:12   need to do anything about what you think of the letters that actually go to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:15   house like a bunch of that is there's nothing to do nothing you can do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:18   it and then there's just a few things that are really problems that you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:24   to avoid and so like that that is my experience with email now as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:31   largely is it's a lot of stuff that there's nothing specifically to be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:38   about and then the rest of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:41   problems that are trying to avoid it like if they get downside of avoidance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:50   machine is is what email is whereas creating things on the internet is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:59   more like an upside chretien machine and of those two sides of my business I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:05   much more interested in focusing on the upside creation and the downside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:09   avoidance and the problems that have arisen from less and less frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:17   checking email R [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:22   they haven't been problems that are large enough that make me think I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:28   need to increase the amount of time that I spend an email versus working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:34   videos that's partly why I like the time that I've just been has gotten smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:38   and smaller on email because I just have a hard time seeing a lot of the positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:44   benefits are things that are coming across that that's scheduled to meet her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:49   come across that system to me whereas again been very interesting for me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:54   we set up this podcast largely using slack I've never used before and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5034">TS</a>]

01:24:06   is no doubt that we were able to go from you convinced me to first episode a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:13   hundred times faster because we were using slack which is having used like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:20   it's kind of an instant messenger program but it's it's designed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:25   little teams of people working together on a project and the thing about slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:32   which makes me much more receptive to using it is like we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:36   before it's now a constrained domain problem when I open slack there's stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:45   that is related to the cortex project in there and that's all it is I don't also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:51   have a message from my dentist saying that it's time to schedule a checkup I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:57   know what's going to be in there and it's much clearer about what needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5097">TS</a>]

01:25:01   get done you're asking a question about something that we're trying to set up or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:05   you know here's an idea for a topic of for the show it's not we don't even use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:09   it as a general chatting up most of the time so that that's why I like slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:15   he's been very interesting experience for me to use and I wish that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:19   use slack with more people in my life but it's it's a problem like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:26   have a team of people that I'm working with I have a bunch of individual people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:30   that I'm working with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:31   and so it still makes sense for our contact to go through email but I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:35   I'm aware that slack has been a very interesting an interesting and vastly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:40   improved experience for moving the project forward to completion and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:46   would definitely consider it for other things in the future over over email you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:50   to totally like up in a way to deal to do stuff like it is possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:58   configure in a way yeah it may be possible but the problem is also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:03   I'm not going to convince the 45 accounting / tax advisers that I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:10   with to all like hey guys let's all get together on slack because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:15   they're not going to do that for a single client of theirs it's never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:19   to happen if you wish to God that I could convince them to do that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:23   actually one of the things I want to talk about was like replacements the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:26   email and slack for relay the company that the network the cortex is a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:34   its always mean NEVER email like I never email anybody like that in that room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:42   which is the majority of people involved the company and then I also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:46   separate slack groups have like different accounts so we have separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:50   ones like design and separate ones the development as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:54   practically everything that we do as a company goes through blank and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:59   there's a couple of different ways that that it was like a general chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:02   where people though religious chat to each other in the day but then there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:06   specific private groups that are set up like the one that mean gray have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:11   show when we talk about the things that bother showing every single show has won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:16   in this way like preparation for the show discussion about the show goes one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:20   of the great things about it like I have done I don't worry about like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:24   throwing stuff in there and just waiting for you to get to it when if you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:28   to it but if we were emailing each other I'll be way more considered about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:33   because there was a time when mean you were just emailing each other about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:39   things but before we say I work in many projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:42   and I was always really liked anxious about sending stuff to you because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:49   knew that I was doing was adding to a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:52   yeah yeah yeah that's that's actually good way to put it work e-mail e-mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:56   feels like a general-purpose problem whereas slack feels much more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5276">TS</a>]

01:28:03   tool to a solution they feel very they feel very different for anyone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:10   followed slack the company you can see that they have had just massive massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:16   growth since their introduction and I think that that is in no small part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:21   because people do feel like we need some solution to email their there needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:27   be something different for for certain kinds of tasks and slack seems to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:35   that very well and it's why when when you brought up like I was very happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:40   give it a try because I was aware at that time like man we're gonna email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:44   each other this is this is not going to this is going to take a long time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:48   for this to actually occur for going to do it on the email which is exactly why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:52   I brought up slack and but this is what I mean about trying to figure out ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:57   to pull out things from email and one of the things that I've done which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5337">TS</a>]

01:29:03   mentioned briefly on the previous show is I email my personal assistant a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:08   but I have been trying to migrate a lot of that to wonder list instead because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:14   our communication is largely passed based so I can put stuff in there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:20   her and it's synchronizes on her and then she sees it and I can see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:24   she's working on her what she's ticked off that's a way better for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:27   trying to send out emails and keep track of what emails have been sent so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:34   what I've been I've been working on with email is trying to figure out ok what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:39   can go somewhere else or what can I pull out like looking for these systemic a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:45   systemic solutions to the problems that I'm that I've been having recently with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:50   just this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:51   this isn't a tool that is working for me as well as it was before and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:55   going to double down on effort I need to figure out a better solution for this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5395">TS</a>]

01:30:01   still have things that I like but I don't want to do them today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:06   ok because I expect that once we both come away from think about him listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:11   it and get feedback there might be other things wanna talk about anyway so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:14   expect there may be some more we discussed next time but there was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:18   thing I wanted to to finish on today which was trying to think of the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:23   what a dream replacement of emails so a couple of things to do I would mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:30   of my hopes box on how open would it be to the rest of the world would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:38   character limit it in any way and would there be more silos their buildings like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:43   for example house like has different groups that you can communicate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:47   different ways of different people or like how gmail does a pretty good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:52   filtering email out itself that way into like promotions and newsletters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:58   important do you have a sense for what you would like a replacement email to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:04   no I don't because again it's it's email is trying to solve a bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:13   problems so I think that it's you have to think about the nature of the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:19   problem that you're trying to solve any just emailed trying to do so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:23   I'm not I would say oh boy I wish email had a character limit because sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:28   I need to receive or send extraordinarily long if that does happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:33   really perfect email replacement would be a 100% trustworthy robot with strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:43   artificial intelligence that I could just turn the whole thing over to handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:47   this entirely trust it to to go through that for me but we don't we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:53   that as a as an option right now so the replacement isn't the system it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:58   person who receives it right you want to give it to a robot I kind you out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:04   yeah this is this is what I'm trying to focus on now is cutting me out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:09   email coupon a bunch of things that's that's what I'm trying to work toward as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:14   as an ultimate solution I can let me do a couple of asked great questions of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:21   and this one is kind of linked and it's interesting and I know that people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:28   ask it so I need to say today how do you reconcile your email policy with having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:35   an e-mail newsletter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:38   everyone has this I don't understand this question is why I know I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:41   ask this because otherwise people will ask it yeah everyone goes you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:47   receiving emails why do you have an email lists because it seems so obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:55   to me a hard time answering the question but the email list is there as an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5575">TS</a>]

01:33:02   for people who find it useful I like people to sign up with email list the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:08   number of people who have signed up as one of the most important numbers that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:11   keep track of what I i have it there for people who find it useful and currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:19   there are about 75,000 people who are signed up on that email list but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:24   going to make assumptions about how other people want to use email or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:29   they run things it's just just the hair is an option I'm signed up to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:34   people's email lists and i'm i'm glad to receive them sometimes but it is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:41   for people to take advantage of and I don't know how they're people run their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:46   own email systems but obviously people find it useful I can see from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:50   numbers from MailChimp which I'm currently using to run that lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:55   people open and lots of people click on it so it's their people find it useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:58   I'm really glad to have a notification system that is independent from YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5638">TS</a>]

01:34:03   or other proprietary systems so why the email it is there it's for people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:09   take advantage of but is not a is not a requirement I think that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:13   right because the complaints that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:15   and I have about the email it receives because we don't opt into it like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:21   system is completely often yes you don't accidentally end up grabbed and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:28   also have some really great things I don't see any other places where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:31   can specify what they want to see things yeah this is how I try I try very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:39   with that email is to think about how would I like an email is to be because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:44   I'm very sensitive about getting too many emails so I I do have a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:50   where people can say I only one emails about videos or only one emails about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:55   podcasts or don't send me emails if there's new merchandise I try to set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5695">TS</a>]

01:35:01   that is that as customizable as possible because there are a couple of emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:08   that I and signed up to but I get a little frustrated because the volume is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:13   just a bit too high and I wish that I could filter out certain kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:16   so that's why I said that that up its try to make it as easy and convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:20   for people as possible and that's all I have the gigantic unsubscribe button on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:25   the bottom because there's nothing I hate more than trying to search through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:29   very low contrast very small text on the bottom of an email is to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:34   unsubscribe link I know that people find interesting because as people find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:40   useful because for reasons unknown an email then go out last week's episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:44   and people were like where is it done though that there is no reasons unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:50   you don't have to cover up for the reasons unknown is just like I said on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:57   the show this was me thinking I can run through the checklist in my head without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5757">TS</a>]

01:36:01   having to actually look at it and said when the cortex will live or the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:06   let me posted everywhere posted on Facebook posted on tumblr post them my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:09   regular website posted on Twitter oh I forgot to send out the email and then by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:15   the next morning I think it's too late to send it out it's it's done I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:19   too much of a burden to send out seventy five thousand emails to people about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5779">TS</a>]

01:36:22   thing that was supposed to happen yesterday so that's why there's no email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:26   once again I thought I could do the checklist that looking at it I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:30   relearn this lesson all the time I didn't want to drop you in it even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:35   that's what this does this podcast is turning out to be is is me trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:41   pierce my own reputation of being some kind of amazing perfect productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:47   person i dont not a reputation that I want I don't think of it even in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:53   way was I know some people do there are people that would like to hear us talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:57   productivity practices I've got that kind of requests and the point is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5817">TS</a>]

01:37:03   idea is that of the show again I don't know if we explained fully is that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:08   great people to do a lot of stuff but kind of classifiers soles has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:14   traditionally productive people and that we have our own weird ways of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:19   things and more so I just find and the reason I went to the first phase I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:24   your methods fascinating I like a nature documentary you know like i'm richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:32   attenborough in this scenario and the lesser spotted gray that's that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:39   how I kind of treat this like Lewis asked about music music last week you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:50   were talking about music as a function which many people enjoy it as I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:53   something I missed when you first and when I was doing the Edit I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:58   when you sent that you pick a song and just listen to it over and i dont even I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:05   don't even know I don't know if I should even talk to you about this because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:10   just we can't understand think of music as so so different it is very common for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:17   me to have a single song on repeat for an entire afternoon ok I don't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:25   leave it but if you listen to Girl Talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:29   all day as you mentioned multiple times a day does it get stuck in your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:33   head now ok latest you see him understand music sometimes sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5913">TS</a>]

01:38:44   music does get stuck in my head in a frustrating way but the solution to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:48   is also just to put it on repeat for an hour and then it then I'm done with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:54   Kevin wants to know how many hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5934">TS</a>]

01:39:03   speed a save during overcast so the app that we both used to listen to podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:07   cars as a function include smart speed where it shortens the gaps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:12   conversation and it is possible if you are you press the button that looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:18   the over cost icon on the top left to score right down to the bombing speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5958">TS</a>]

01:39:22   function it would tell you how many hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:24   speed has saved you I have 46 hours saved in small speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:31   you have way more than me you have way more than me because i dont i dont use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:34   smart speed on all podcasts I only have 24 hours right now is an enormous amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:43   but i dont i dont run smart smart speed on every single Pakistani maybe half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:50   the podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:53   you'd like to send in your feedback for us please feel free to do in any method [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/5993">TS</a>]

01:40:00   that you choose if you send email it will come to me and I'm happy to receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6000">TS</a>]

01:40:04   it I will look for it as I do everything else but as we've mentioned in previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6004">TS</a>]

01:40:08   shows especially on today's show a preferred method of feedback now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:11   definitely is read it to a you can you can voice your opinions and let me know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:15   but also if you'd like to ask questions one of the best ways to do that is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:19   use the Ask gray hashtag and they come through a twenty point something out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:24   about that as well I go through those every week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:26   pull out a couple for the episode but I have a large bank of questions that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:31   building up which I am doing specifically for a couple of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:34   sometimes they meet a topic that I want to talk about so they might even match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:40   that or I feel like I'm already gonna talk to grab the topic of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:45   but also I think at some point I'm gonna do a question-and-answer type episode to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:50   clear out a bunch of the interesting stuff but I looked through them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:53   summer considered for the episode summer AskMe opposite and also some help in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:58   forum topics as well so I love to receive those they're really great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:02   also you know people can ask questions and stuff in the red and I picked us up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:05   every episode and look through everything to make sure I'm fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:09   informed about the show because it is very important to me to get this type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:14   feedback because I know what people want to hear about the show and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:17   useful for me please continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBlI2CQ8/6077">TS</a>]