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HI #75: "World’s Most Interesting Podcast"


00:00:00   I know you don't like talking about [TS]

00:00:02   dreams but ok no it's not know that [TS]

00:00:05   saying I get my first thing I can you [TS]

00:00:08   don't normally open with dreams my [TS]

00:00:10   friend so one might have been a [TS]

00:00:15   follow-up and i feel kind of almost [TS]

00:00:16   guilty now to our Norwegian listeners [TS]

00:00:19   after my fun little joke last episode [TS]

00:00:21   about Magnus Carlsen being from sweden [TS]

00:00:24   who chose deliberately said and then [TS]

00:00:25   pointed out he was no agent who that did [TS]

00:00:27   cause a minor kerfuffle among Norwegians [TS]

00:00:30   who love their Magnus mhm so apologies [TS]

00:00:33   to those people it was a joke which I [TS]

00:00:34   said very quickly it was check but how [TS]

00:00:36   much feedback did you get ready because [TS]

00:00:37   you are deliberately provoking feedback [TS]

00:00:39   from people who listen to the podcast [TS]

00:00:41   pause immediately in their rage and [TS]

00:00:43   reply to you so I'm curious how much [TS]

00:00:45   feedback along those lines that you [TS]

00:00:47   actually get from people probably 20 to [TS]

00:00:50   30 people that's not too bad that's not [TS]

00:00:52   too bad and I did get a few tweets where [TS]

00:00:54   people were like tweeting angrily at me [TS]

00:00:56   and then a few seconds later like [TS]

00:00:58   sending apology tweaks ok my favorite [TS]

00:01:00   which i think is shared with the Twitter [TS]

00:01:02   audience was i was looking at my [TS]

00:01:04   timeline and there was one person who [TS]

00:01:05   followed me two seconds later angrily [TS]

00:01:09   tweeted me five seconds later sent a [TS]

00:01:11   tweet saying sorry and you could see the [TS]

00:01:12   whole thing play out on the Twitter [TS]

00:01:14   timeline maybe sometimes quite funny i [TS]

00:01:17   will point out that Magnus Carlsen did [TS]

00:01:19   win the World Chess Championship did he [TS]

00:01:21   ok did but in circumstances that make me [TS]

00:01:24   unhappy [TS]

00:01:25   oh why what happened well they play best [TS]

00:01:27   of 12 which might sound silly because [TS]

00:01:29   it's an even number because you get so [TS]

00:01:31   many drawers in chess [TS]

00:01:32   it's irrelevant whether you play an even [TS]

00:01:33   or odd number of games really they won [TS]

00:01:36   one game h and all of the rest were [TS]

00:01:38   drawn this was against the Russian [TS]

00:01:40   sergej karyakin em it was six points all [TS]

00:01:43   after 12 games because you get half a [TS]

00:01:46   point h4 draw and then the way they [TS]

00:01:48   decided that was with this tiebreaker [TS]

00:01:50   situation and there was this series of [TS]

00:01:52   tiebreakers they were going to go [TS]

00:01:54   through the first was in one day they [TS]

00:01:56   played a best-of for rapid chess games [TS]

00:02:00   I'll experience yeah maybe it was like [TS]

00:02:02   our which game and if that didn't sorted [TS]

00:02:05   out they were going to go to a faster [TS]

00:02:06   version who and if that didn't work out [TS]

00:02:09   they were then going to go to this form [TS]

00:02:11   of chess called Armageddon Jess [TS]

00:02:13   just got super EXTREME time limits and [TS]

00:02:15   if no one has won by the time limit then [TS]

00:02:18   the person playing the black pieces is [TS]

00:02:21   declared the winner [TS]

00:02:21   so there has to be a winner of [TS]

00:02:23   Armageddon chess wow that seems deeply [TS]

00:02:25   unfair on every level [TS]

00:02:26   well I guess you know what has the [TS]

00:02:27   advantage of starting and I don't know [TS]

00:02:29   it didn't matter because it was sorted [TS]

00:02:31   out in the rapid chess in the first [TS]

00:02:32   investor for they played two drawers and [TS]

00:02:35   then Carson one the next to him to be [TS]

00:02:38   crowned world champion they already have [TS]

00:02:41   like World Championships of these other [TS]

00:02:43   speeds of chess and so I think deciding [TS]

00:02:46   like the ultimate world chess champion [TS]

00:02:48   in the long form of the game having it [TS]

00:02:50   then decided with this other form of [TS]

00:02:52   chess is deeply wrong em and also it's [TS]

00:02:55   well-known that Magnus Carlsen is very [TS]

00:02:57   good team is very good object so before [TS]

00:02:59   effort but he's considered to have an [TS]

00:03:01   even greater advantage over karaoke at [TS]

00:03:04   speed chess and I think the feeling was [TS]

00:03:06   once things sort of evened out he would [TS]

00:03:09   be happy to play for the drawer because [TS]

00:03:10   he thought he could take out the Russian [TS]

00:03:12   in the space which he then did and i [TS]

00:03:14   think this is unfair and a wrong way to [TS]

00:03:17   have sorted out the world chess [TS]

00:03:18   championship in the long form of the [TS]

00:03:20   game to have the world champion [TS]

00:03:21   basically decided by the guy who's the [TS]

00:03:23   best at rapid chess and I'm not happy i [TS]

00:03:26   still think houses the best chess player [TS]

00:03:27   in the world and perhaps I think the [TS]

00:03:29   fairest thing to have done with a draw [TS]

00:03:31   championship would be for the defending [TS]

00:03:33   champion to have kept his title anyway [TS]

00:03:35   so I'm quite happy that Magnus Carlsen [TS]

00:03:37   has remained world champion but I don't [TS]

00:03:39   like that it was sorted out in this [TS]

00:03:41   speedy chess format [TS]

00:03:43   yeah i'm going to completely agree with [TS]

00:03:44   you here i mentioned last time that you [TS]

00:03:46   know I used to play chess and then I got [TS]

00:03:47   kind of bored with the game when I [TS]

00:03:49   realized it's about recognizing patterns [TS]

00:03:51   but i did for awhile continue to play [TS]

00:03:53   very rapid speed chess so where you put [TS]

00:03:57   maybe five or ten minutes on the clock [TS]

00:03:58   for both people that was fun because it [TS]

00:04:00   was just a totally different game you [TS]

00:04:03   couldn't spend a lot of time thinking [TS]

00:04:05   about stuff but i imagine for [TS]

00:04:07   grandmasters you are really honed in on [TS]

00:04:10   the precise nature of the game that the [TS]

00:04:13   difference between the long-form version [TS]

00:04:15   and the hour version like might as well [TS]

00:04:17   be because speed chess kind of game i [TS]

00:04:20   totally agree with you it's like if [TS]

00:04:21   they're doing a faster version of chess [TS]

00:04:23   at the end it feels like they should [TS]

00:04:25   almost just [TS]

00:04:26   arm wrestle for the championship [TS]

00:04:27   athletic field a little bit like we're [TS]

00:04:29   going to decide the world champion of [TS]

00:04:30   one game by playing another game i agree [TS]

00:04:34   with you i don't like it i think they [TS]

00:04:35   should just keep playing until somebody [TS]

00:04:37   breaks the draw if it takes a hundred [TS]

00:04:39   games like just keep playing that they [TS]

00:04:42   should do that could have been pretty [TS]

00:04:43   awesome [TS]

00:04:43   just so you know by the way rapid chess [TS]

00:04:45   can have different speeds between 10 and [TS]

00:04:47   60 minutes in this particular case it [TS]

00:04:49   was 25 minutes with 10 second increments [TS]

00:04:53   / move that's still reasonably fast [TS]

00:04:55   though [TS]

00:04:56   interesting yeah the Blitz game if it [TS]

00:04:58   went to that it would have been five [TS]

00:04:59   minutes with three seconds experiments [TS]

00:05:02   yeah and then if it went to the [TS]

00:05:04   Armageddon game which kinda would have [TS]

00:05:05   been Kirko it's actually white pieces [TS]

00:05:08   get five minutes and the black pieces [TS]

00:05:11   get four minutes on the clock [TS]

00:05:13   yeah like I agree with you it would be [TS]

00:05:14   kind of cool to see it go to this [TS]

00:05:16   Armageddon version but it feels totally [TS]

00:05:17   arbitrary this feels unsatisfactory this [TS]

00:05:20   to me feels very much like what's called [TS]

00:05:22   a penalty shootout in soccer [TS]

00:05:24   are you familiar with a penalty shootout [TS]

00:05:25   that's the thing at the end where they [TS]

00:05:27   kick four times five times h soccer [TS]

00:05:30   games drawn and a draw is unacceptable [TS]

00:05:32   for some reason like it's a knockout [TS]

00:05:34   game in the world cup of something that [TS]

00:05:35   would just take penalty kicks from the [TS]

00:05:37   penalty spot past the goalkeeper which [TS]

00:05:39   also i've always thought was a deeply [TS]

00:05:40   unfair way to decide a soccer game [TS]

00:05:42   because of such a niche discipline of [TS]

00:05:44   the game but I guess you've got to sort [TS]

00:05:47   out drawers in a timely way sometimes I [TS]

00:05:49   don't know I feel like if it matters as [TS]

00:05:51   much we should just keep going and argue [TS]

00:05:53   with you with the soccer games like just [TS]

00:05:54   keep playing someone will eventually [TS]

00:05:55   score a point we might be here for five [TS]

00:05:58   hours but what's the problem [TS]

00:05:59   let's keep going you do have a slight [TS]

00:06:00   problem as well though this is another [TS]

00:06:02   famous story that i'm assuming you won't [TS]

00:06:04   be familiar with bit of a classic in the [TS]

00:06:06   world of sport em and that is in tennis [TS]

00:06:09   tennis sets our first to win six games [TS]

00:06:13   okay but you have to win by two so you [TS]

00:06:16   can win the set 6-4 6-3 or 60 but you [TS]

00:06:19   can't win 6-5 huh [TS]

00:06:21   ok so there's a margin you have to [TS]

00:06:22   overcome yeah you have to win by two [TS]

00:06:24   this is to compensate for the fact that [TS]

00:06:26   person who serves in a game has a big [TS]

00:06:28   advantage so you have got to break the [TS]

00:06:31   other person serve at least once this is [TS]

00:06:33   why I exist I like your intense sports [TS]

00:06:35   voice you use this every once in a while [TS]

00:06:36   when you're talking about four [TS]

00:06:37   this is my favorite stuff it used to be [TS]

00:06:41   in the olden times you would just keep [TS]

00:06:42   playing mm and it could go to 86 or it [TS]

00:06:45   could go to ten eight and you would keep [TS]

00:06:46   playing until someone got an advantage [TS]

00:06:47   of to someone broke the other person [TS]

00:06:50   serve this resulted in the introduction [TS]

00:06:52   of the tiebreaker [TS]

00:06:53   so if set up Tenace gets to 60 who you [TS]

00:06:57   play sort of a special kind of mini game [TS]

00:06:59   called a tiebreaker is like a penalty [TS]

00:07:00   shootout or like a blitz game of chess [TS]

00:07:03   whoever wins that tiebreaker wins the [TS]

00:07:05   set 7-6 you move on to the next set but [TS]

00:07:08   in Grand Slam tournaments such as [TS]

00:07:10   Wimbledon it's considered unfair to [TS]

00:07:14   decide the whole match on tiebreakers so [TS]

00:07:17   inside a men's game which is best to 5 [TS]

00:07:19   sets the first four sets can be decided [TS]

00:07:22   by tiebreakers ok but if you get to two [TS]

00:07:24   sets all and you're playing the fifth [TS]

00:07:26   and deciding set it's considered unfair [TS]

00:07:28   to decide that with a tiebreaker [TS]

00:07:30   so it goes to the old-fashioned way of [TS]

00:07:33   you have to win by two and like you're [TS]

00:07:36   saying you could play forever you just [TS]

00:07:37   keep taking it in turns games one person [TS]

00:07:39   serving the other person serving until [TS]

00:07:41   someone wins the set by 2m it was a very [TS]

00:07:44   famous match in 2010 [TS]

00:07:47   Edwin wouldn't between a guy called John [TS]

00:07:49   Isner from the United States and a guy [TS]

00:07:52   called Nicholas mahout who is a French [TS]

00:07:55   is no won the first set 6-4 and then my [TS]

00:07:58   hope on the second set 6-3 and then the [TS]

00:08:01   next two sets both went to tie breakers [TS]

00:08:02   and we shared so it came to the fifth [TS]

00:08:04   set both of them are quite good servers [TS]

00:08:06   so it's hard to break their serve and [TS]

00:08:09   this this set went for a long time and [TS]

00:08:12   in fact it was finally won by Isner the [TS]

00:08:16   final set was one 72-68 haha why I and [TS]

00:08:24   the tennis match went for over 11 hours [TS]

00:08:26   and was played over three days [TS]

00:08:28   whoa one was serving than the other was [TS]

00:08:31   serving and like they couldn't break [TS]

00:08:33   each other serve and it just kept going [TS]

00:08:35   it's been called the endless match wow [TS]

00:08:36   so that's the danger you could have had [TS]

00:08:39   with karyakin & Carlson imagine that a [TS]

00:08:41   year-and-a-half just draw after draw [TS]

00:08:43   after draw maybe in retrospect I am [TS]

00:08:46   under estimating just how closely [TS]

00:08:49   matched [TS]

00:08:50   the best in the world can be and sew my [TS]

00:08:52   formula of just keep playing until you [TS]

00:08:54   break the draw might actually be a [TS]

00:08:57   terrible idea under many more [TS]

00:08:58   circumstances then I think it would be I [TS]

00:09:01   would still prefer or you just say that [TS]

00:09:03   the world champion retains their crown [TS]

00:09:05   if they can't be beaten in the format is [TS]

00:09:08   given to the Challenger I don't know I [TS]

00:09:10   guess that's to be unsatisfying in this [TS]

00:09:11   day and age but but i think that seems [TS]

00:09:13   not unreasonable [TS]

00:09:14   ok i do have to say Brady they're [TS]

00:09:16   listening to you describe lovingly all [TS]

00:09:19   of the little details of the sport which [TS]

00:09:21   rapidly fly by me as soon as you have [TS]

00:09:23   said them i feel like i am forever [TS]

00:09:25   dreading and looking forward to the [TS]

00:09:28   inevitable day when you take me to a [TS]

00:09:31   cricket phone and explain all of the [TS]

00:09:33   crickets like this is ben on our list of [TS]

00:09:35   things to do for a long time I do want [TS]

00:09:37   to have it happen but listening to you [TS]

00:09:40   talk now and I have that feeling of like [TS]

00:09:41   that'll be a fun day and also an [TS]

00:09:44   incredibly mentally exhausting and make [TS]

00:09:46   sure though I'm so frustrated by already [TS]

00:09:49   because it hasn't even happened and I [TS]

00:09:52   because it's such a balancing act [TS]

00:09:53   between just understanding the [TS]

00:09:55   fundamentals of the game the rules of [TS]

00:09:57   the game and then the nuance in the game [TS]

00:10:00   within the game which is what people [TS]

00:10:01   love so much but you can't appreciate [TS]

00:10:03   that until you understand the game you [TS]

00:10:04   know you don't know which way to sort of [TS]

00:10:06   Tippett do i lovingly explain the game [TS]

00:10:08   within the game and the notes or do I [TS]

00:10:09   have to just explain the basic rules and [TS]

00:10:11   hard to get that right i mean this is [TS]

00:10:13   actually like what our job is with [TS]

00:10:14   making educational YouTube videos as [TS]

00:10:16   well write it like this is always the [TS]

00:10:17   problem especially when you assume that [TS]

00:10:20   the person listening like in his case [TS]

00:10:22   with cricket knows essentially nothing [TS]

00:10:25   you can very quickly work yourself into [TS]

00:10:27   a situation where it's hard as the more [TS]

00:10:29   knowledgeable person to know where to [TS]

00:10:32   begin [TS]

00:10:33   because yeah it's like there's lots of [TS]

00:10:34   stuff that's interesting once you know [TS]

00:10:36   all of the background but it can be kind [TS]

00:10:38   of hard to disentangle what's confusing [TS]

00:10:41   for someone new to this topic and I [TS]

00:10:45   think with the sports stuff which you [TS]

00:10:46   may find is you might have to go away [TS]

00:10:48   more basic than your even imagining [TS]

00:10:50   because it probably lots of things [TS]

00:10:52   common to all sports that are you just [TS]

00:10:55   don't even realize that I am unaware of [TS]

00:10:57   that we might have to start with ground [TS]

00:10:58   assumptions so okay so the reason [TS]

00:11:02   uploaded up [TS]

00:11:03   was because we have a little bit of [TS]

00:11:04   follow-up we were talking about the new [TS]

00:11:05   Norwegian banknotes a while ago which [TS]

00:11:08   will call had some quite cool designs [TS]

00:11:10   and i was contacted by Tim the other day [TS]

00:11:12   and he told me that their official now [TS]

00:11:16   the ones that we discussed way back when [TS]

00:11:18   linked to in the show notes have been [TS]

00:11:19   slightly tweaked since and honed and [TS]

00:11:22   refined and signed off and they have now [TS]

00:11:26   got their final newly-designed banknote [TS]

00:11:28   soon they don't look much different to [TS]

00:11:30   me they're pretty much how we discussed [TS]

00:11:31   the last time was sort of nautical [TS]

00:11:34   objects and things like lighthouses and [TS]

00:11:35   fishing boats and then on the other side [TS]

00:11:38   a really weird [TS]

00:11:40   abstract blurred pixelation of the same [TS]

00:11:43   images but that was all well and good [TS]

00:11:45   but then I was trying to read a bit more [TS]

00:11:47   about it thinking our how people [TS]

00:11:49   responding to them and at that point I [TS]

00:11:50   realized that actually still not in [TS]

00:11:52   circulation yet this is one of these new [TS]

00:11:54   stories that has about 18 folks starts [TS]

00:11:56   like water on Mars we don't have water [TS]

00:11:58   on Mars exactly what ya say although the [TS]

00:12:02   designs have been finalized they don't [TS]

00:12:04   start hitting people's wallets and [TS]

00:12:06   purses who until around the middle of [TS]

00:12:09   next year but one thing that i did find [TS]

00:12:12   interesting was this new story i read [TS]

00:12:14   who said these banknotes have been [TS]

00:12:16   described as the world's most beautiful [TS]

00:12:17   banknotes in quotes and I thought that's [TS]

00:12:20   interesting i wonder who did that and [TS]

00:12:22   then I've done a bit more digging and it [TS]

00:12:25   seems like there's no real source to it [TS]

00:12:27   and actually comes from the norwegian [TS]

00:12:29   bank itself was that by black the [TS]

00:12:32   designers mum ahead of the bank or some [TS]

00:12:35   official design organization and it did [TS]

00:12:38   make me think it's amazing how just [TS]

00:12:40   throwing something out there and [TS]

00:12:41   especially putting it in quotes [TS]

00:12:44   actually I've got an idea I'm gonna do [TS]

00:12:46   it tweet i'm just gonna write hello [TS]

00:12:48   Internet colon and then quite max [TS]

00:12:51   world's most interesting podcast haha [TS]

00:12:54   what I'll do then is I put a little dash [TS]

00:12:56   26 day because when you do that as well [TS]

00:12:58   it seems like more official [TS]

00:13:00   ok perfect i'm putting that out there [TS]

00:13:02   alright i'll retweet it helps spread [TS]

00:13:03   along [TS]

00:13:05   you read it first on Twitter so no way [TS]

00:13:08   may have the world's most beautiful [TS]

00:13:10   banknotes and they're now being [TS]

00:13:12   discussed on the world's most [TS]

00:13:13   interesting podcast just putting that [TS]

00:13:15   quote out there we had a few retweets [TS]

00:13:19   and likes already so words getting out [TS]

00:13:22   I've been you are a fan of these [TS]

00:13:25   banknotes as am i what do you think of [TS]

00:13:27   world's most beautiful banknotes are you [TS]

00:13:28   willing to endorse that again i'm a fan [TS]

00:13:30   of these notes but that exact quote like [TS]

00:13:33   the world's most beautiful i'm not sure [TS]

00:13:35   i could sign off on that maybe they're [TS]

00:13:37   the world's coolest banknotes that's [TS]

00:13:39   what it should be right [TS]

00:13:40   Brady Haran 2016 world's coolest [TS]

00:13:42   banknotes but what this doesn't seem to [TS]

00:13:44   me like is is almost designed by [TS]

00:13:46   committee like they've made some bold [TS]

00:13:48   choices [TS]

00:13:49   it doesn't mean that i necessarily like [TS]

00:13:51   everything that they have done but I [TS]

00:13:53   like that they're visually distinct [TS]

00:13:55   banknotes they look different from other [TS]

00:13:58   stuff that I've seen thumbs up on this [TS]

00:14:01   one [TS]

00:14:02   norway but most beautiful i'm not 100% [TS]

00:14:05   sure I like your description way better [TS]

00:14:07   maybe the bank of norway will update [TS]

00:14:09   their website have my description [TS]

00:14:11   instead that would be a code for the [TS]

00:14:12   world's most interesting podcast on this [TS]

00:14:19   holiday season episode of Hello internet [TS]

00:14:21   i want to welcome a fantastic new [TS]

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00:14:30   day I found waiting for me in my office [TS]

00:14:33   a surprise this company had shipped me [TS]

00:14:36   their travel luggage to take a look at [TS]

00:14:39   and i have to say i am really picky [TS]

00:14:42   about this stuff but i am very very [TS]

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00:15:03   not only have they manufactured a very [TS]

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00:15:09   they've also put into it a battery with [TS]

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00:15:17   I don't know about you but I'm traveling [TS]

00:15:19   I always get really paranoid about the [TS]

00:15:21   battery on my phone actually paranoid [TS]

00:15:24   isn't the right word because i really do [TS]

00:15:25   run into this problem all the time where [TS]

00:15:26   my phone just runs out of charge when [TS]

00:15:28   I'm traveling even if i put in low-power [TS]

00:15:30   mode it becomes a thing that I have to [TS]

00:15:33   babysit but away luggage with their [TS]

00:15:35   built-in battery will allow you to [TS]

00:15:37   charge your iphone 5 times over having [TS]

00:15:41   that while you're traveling is just such [TS]

00:15:43   an incredible piece of mind it takes the [TS]

00:15:45   phone's battery from something that you [TS]

00:15:47   have to worry about and that you have to [TS]

00:15:49   babysit to something that you just never [TS]

00:15:52   have to think about but this is just one [TS]

00:15:54   of the features that impressed me with [TS]

00:15:56   his suitcase [TS]

00:15:57   they're also using just such [TS]

00:15:58   high-quality materials it just feels [TS]

00:16:02   like a really solid suitcase as soon as [TS]

00:16:05   you touch it so many suitcases they're [TS]

00:16:08   really flimsy right the zippers don't [TS]

00:16:10   sleep very well at the at the outside [TS]

00:16:12   materials don't feel sturdy and strong [TS]

00:16:14   not this suitcase [TS]

00:16:16   it's made with premium German [TS]

00:16:18   polycarbonate unrivaled in strength and [TS]

00:16:21   impact resistance while still being very [TS]

00:16:24   lightweight the other thing that really [TS]

00:16:25   matters is it's a four-wheel suitcase [TS]

00:16:28   now if you've never used a four-wheel [TS]

00:16:31   suitcase you need to change the way you [TS]

00:16:33   live right now if you think two wheels [TS]

00:16:36   is adequate you are wrong the difference [TS]

00:16:39   between four wheels and two wheels on a [TS]

00:16:41   suitcase is just as big as the [TS]

00:16:43   difference between two wheels and no [TS]

00:16:45   wheels being able to take a suitcase and [TS]

00:16:49   have it have it by your side all the [TS]

00:16:51   time like a really well heeled dog [TS]

00:16:54   changes the way you can move around an [TS]

00:16:56   airport the suitcases always just right [TS]

00:16:59   by your side it changes the way you [TS]

00:17:00   interact with lines it changes the way [TS]

00:17:03   you move in a crowd [TS]

00:17:04   it changes the turning radius that you [TS]

00:17:06   can make when you're moving around [TS]

00:17:08   it's so fantastic but not all four [TS]

00:17:10   wheels suitcases are made the same so [TS]

00:17:12   when they sent me the suitcase i took it [TS]

00:17:15   out the other night on rough London [TS]

00:17:17   streets under all sorts of different [TS]

00:17:18   circumstances to make sure that these [TS]

00:17:20   wheels worked really well and i have to [TS]

00:17:22   say they pass with flying colors [TS]

00:17:25   there are so many features about this [TS]

00:17:26   thing I couldn't possibly run through [TS]

00:17:28   them all but i just i do want to mention [TS]

00:17:29   just a couple other [TS]

00:17:30   things they have a tsa approved [TS]

00:17:33   combination lock that is built right [TS]

00:17:35   into the top of the bag to help secure [TS]

00:17:38   your belongings but also make sure that [TS]

00:17:41   the security agencies in the United [TS]

00:17:42   States don't rip open your bags if they [TS]

00:17:45   ever want to take a look on the inside [TS]

00:17:46   that's the thing that will really ruin [TS]

00:17:49   your day right American security in the [TS]

00:17:51   airlines is enough of a hassle [TS]

00:17:54   it's really unpleasant when they tear [TS]

00:17:56   open your bag to get inside of it a tsa [TS]

00:17:59   approved lock that will avoid a really [TS]

00:18:02   unpleasant situation on the other end of [TS]

00:18:04   your flight [TS]

00:18:05   so this is also like four wheels a bag [TS]

00:18:07   has to have a tsa approved lock on it [TS]

00:18:10   of course the carry-on size is compliant [TS]

00:18:12   with all us major airlines while also [TS]

00:18:15   maximizing the amount that you can [TS]

00:18:16   possibly pack inside of it with this [TS]

00:18:18   clever patent-pending compression system [TS]

00:18:21   that they're using which is quite neat [TS]

00:18:22   there's just so much about this that [TS]

00:18:24   makes it a really great suitcase [TS]

00:18:26   it's obviously like an engineering [TS]

00:18:28   mindset applied to the problem of [TS]

00:18:30   traveling and packing they're so [TS]

00:18:32   confident in this suitcase they offer a [TS]

00:18:35   lifetime warranty if anything breaks [TS]

00:18:37   they'll fix it or replace it and they [TS]

00:18:40   give you a 100-day trial to use it you [TS]

00:18:44   can take the suitcase on flights for [TS]

00:18:45   three months to put it through its paces [TS]

00:18:47   and see that it is the correct suitcase [TS]

00:18:50   for you and if you don't like it you can [TS]

00:18:52   return it for a full refund no questions [TS]

00:18:55   asked so right now go to away travel.com [TS]

00:18:58   /h I to get twenty dollars off your [TS]

00:19:02   suitcase when you use the promo code [TS]

00:19:04   each I during checkout and if you order [TS]

00:19:07   by 1 p.m. eastern on december twenty [TS]

00:19:09   first with two day shipping your [TS]

00:19:11   suitcase will arrive in time for the [TS]

00:19:14   holiday which could be great for your [TS]

00:19:16   travel or it could make a great gift [TS]

00:19:18   I'm just saying you know it's a [TS]

00:19:19   fantastic suitcase and we all know [TS]

00:19:21   people who have really sad suitcases and [TS]

00:19:24   we're very likely to see them during the [TS]

00:19:26   holidays so fantastic gift if you want [TS]

00:19:28   to do that as well and if you're a [TS]

00:19:30   really last-minute shopper or you're [TS]

00:19:33   listening to this podcast late egift [TS]

00:19:35   cards are also available and also much [TS]

00:19:38   smaller to put under the Christmas tree [TS]

00:19:39   so once again thank you to away travel [TS]

00:19:42   for sponsoring this episode of [TS]

00:19:44   hello internet and you should go to away [TS]

00:19:46   travel.com /h I to check out their [TS]

00:19:50   suitcase and get twenty dollars off with [TS]

00:19:53   promo code [TS]

00:19:54   eh I got a couple of you a mess [TS]

00:19:58   I like this one hello Brady I'm a [TS]

00:20:01   firefighter/paramedic in Virginia [TS]

00:20:03   stumbled across hello internet broadcast [TS]

00:20:05   recently I listen quite often during [TS]

00:20:07   training exercises and workouts station [TS]

00:20:09   due to the nature of the job i have [TS]

00:20:11   quite a bit of downtime and I've [TS]

00:20:12   listened to the first 40 podcast in [TS]

00:20:14   about three weeks time [TS]

00:20:16   not bad so within a month i should be [TS]

00:20:17   caught up to current i wanted to share [TS]

00:20:20   an interesting story regarding the [TS]

00:20:22   podcast at my job i was listening during [TS]

00:20:24   a workout and we received a cold for a [TS]

00:20:27   structure fire just down the straight I [TS]

00:20:29   rest you're throwing my gear and jump in [TS]

00:20:31   the truck to head to the incident upon [TS]

00:20:33   arrival there was heavy smoking showing [TS]

00:20:35   from the structure a very frantic lady [TS]

00:20:38   ran up to us she stated her dog was [TS]

00:20:41   still in the structure on the second [TS]

00:20:44   floor [TS]

00:20:44   oh no hehe lapses into normal language [TS]

00:20:46   as we entered the house so we now know [TS]

00:20:49   what the structure is what I somehow [TS]

00:20:52   restarted the podcast in my pocket and [TS]

00:20:54   still had the earbuds yet I ironically [TS]

00:20:58   was listening to the story of Derek the [TS]

00:21:01   skydiver in episode 44 jump out of [TS]

00:21:03   planes while listening to the podcast so [TS]

00:21:05   nice little symmetry there and although [TS]

00:21:07   it was absolutely incidental I just [TS]

00:21:10   wanted to let you know that you and grey [TS]

00:21:12   played a small part in saving a golden [TS]

00:21:14   retriever from a burning building [TS]

00:21:16   haha not bad eh that's fantastic [TS]

00:21:20   yeah I like that one and it does sound [TS]

00:21:23   very legitimate with the firefighter [TS]

00:21:25   lingo that that's fine yeah i mean like [TS]

00:21:27   all these stories it could be made up i [TS]

00:21:30   believe it i believe it's true there was [TS]

00:21:31   no photographic verification provided [TS]

00:21:34   which i always enjoy in emails but for [TS]

00:21:36   all i know that could be a work of [TS]

00:21:38   fanfiction but if so well dad yet i'll [TS]

00:21:41   let it pass but next time if you're a [TS]

00:21:43   firefighter saving a dog in a burning [TS]

00:21:45   building we would like the headcam [TS]

00:21:46   footage with the hello Internet audio [TS]

00:21:48   playing in the background at the same [TS]

00:21:50   time just to be sure that would get your [TS]

00:21:52   hello Internet medal of honor [TS]

00:21:54   I also wanted to share another viewer [TS]

00:21:57   interaction from a while ago I can't [TS]

00:21:59   believe I forgot to tell the story but [TS]

00:22:00   also i just realized I'm on brilliant [TS]

00:22:02   accidental pun form today because this [TS]

00:22:05   will be a truncated version of a story [TS]

00:22:06   about trunks because as you know huh [TS]

00:22:10   I don't mind an old trunk an old steamer [TS]

00:22:13   trunk from the good old days you have a [TS]

00:22:15   magnificent one in your the coffee table [TS]

00:22:17   in our lounge is a lovely old steamer [TS]

00:22:20   trunk with old initials stenciled on it [TS]

00:22:22   still some old stickers from the days [TS]

00:22:23   when it was going on ships and things i [TS]

00:22:26   love that they've got like names painted [TS]

00:22:28   on them and have quite a bit of a story [TS]

00:22:29   to that my life that I've got a history [TS]

00:22:30   and they're also nice-looking objects [TS]

00:22:33   and they're quite useful for storing [TS]

00:22:35   things as well so it's win win win so I [TS]

00:22:38   recently had an email from a team in New [TS]

00:22:41   Zealand who came across a trunk they [TS]

00:22:44   thought i might like I've got it here in [TS]

00:22:46   the room next to me you can tell how the [TS]

00:22:47   story is going to end already [TS]

00:22:49   it was used on a passenger liner called [TS]

00:22:54   the SS ionic not believers in ionic bond [TS]

00:22:58   mhm traveling New Zealand to London and [TS]

00:23:00   the passengers name which is painted on [TS]

00:23:03   a rather ornately is miss Heron bloom [TS]

00:23:08   but it's always been my dream to find a [TS]

00:23:10   trunk with like be JH but to have one [TS]

00:23:12   with my surname which is reasonably [TS]

00:23:14   unusual woman was a go so this is tim [TS]

00:23:16   from museums and look what i just found [TS]

00:23:18   in an antique store like around the [TS]

00:23:19   corner [TS]

00:23:20   hmm and I was like can you go back and [TS]

00:23:22   take some more pictures of a say went [TS]

00:23:23   back and took more pictures and send [TS]

00:23:25   them to me and I was like you just gotta [TS]

00:23:28   buy that thing get a buyer for me now [TS]

00:23:30   and send it to me I don't care about the [TS]

00:23:32   cost [TS]

00:23:33   so he did a national guy paid him the [TS]

00:23:36   money [TS]

00:23:37   apparently he did a bit of negotiating [TS]

00:23:39   for you got a few new zealand dollars [TS]

00:23:41   knocked off the price and then he [TS]

00:23:43   shipped it to me i think the shipping [TS]

00:23:45   cost more than the trunk itself right of [TS]

00:23:46   course of course and it now has pride of [TS]

00:23:49   place in one of my officers here i'll [TS]

00:23:51   post a picture in the show notes that [TS]

00:23:52   people want to see my miss Heron trunk [TS]

00:23:54   is quite big [TS]

00:23:55   I think you could probably fit seven [TS]

00:23:57   Audrey's and maybe have us this is the [TS]

00:23:59   trunk large enough first 72 arts [TS]

00:24:03   yeah maybe and you have to pack them in [TS]

00:24:06   tightly of course of words that's a [TS]

00:24:08   decent size but it was that was an [TS]

00:24:09   absolute code so thank you very much [TS]

00:24:13   that isn't absolute q i have just [TS]

00:24:15   delighted at the idea of you doing [TS]

00:24:19   antique shopping through twitter is [TS]

00:24:21   essentially what you're doing like [TS]

00:24:23   crowd-sourced antique shopping is what's [TS]

00:24:26   occurring here this is amazing [TS]

00:24:28   can I put a shout-out for the other [TS]

00:24:29   thing I'm in the market for the moment i [TS]

00:24:31   sent any teams can help me out with my [TS]

00:24:32   antiquing [TS]

00:24:34   oh god please go right ahead i guarantee [TS]

00:24:36   you this will not be cut [TS]

00:24:39   ok the thing I'm in the market for at [TS]

00:24:42   the moment and I'm finding it hard to [TS]

00:24:43   find and I do have very strict [TS]

00:24:45   requirements because the room I need to [TS]

00:24:47   get in is very difficult room to [TS]

00:24:48   negotiate large objects into and also [TS]

00:24:50   obviously it has to be in the UK because [TS]

00:24:52   it's a big heavy thing i want what i [TS]

00:24:54   wanted a moment for my second office [TS]

00:24:57   slash film studio right is an old-school [TS]

00:25:01   text studies bench with a couple of [TS]

00:25:03   vices on it you know those old wooden [TS]

00:25:05   ones that have got like a million old [TS]

00:25:06   marks and dents in them i don't know [TS]

00:25:08   what you mean a text Eddie bench [TS]

00:25:10   what do you call the subject at school [TS]

00:25:12   where you would do that would work and [TS]

00:25:14   things like that [TS]

00:25:14   oh I got like a shop class i think is [TS]

00:25:17   that what you mean they're called tech [TS]

00:25:18   studies in the UK and in no case [TS]

00:25:20   Australia so I want those old wooden [TS]

00:25:22   benches where you would do would work at [TS]

00:25:24   school on probably from an old school [TS]

00:25:26   and I want to be able dented up and have [TS]

00:25:28   things engraved in it and I have a real [TS]

00:25:30   history in a story that i might like you [TS]

00:25:32   know buffered up and polish it a bit [TS]

00:25:33   that would look nice would not i think [TS]

00:25:35   that would look at it that would look [TS]

00:25:36   absolutely lovely [TS]

00:25:37   so I'm on ebay looking at them so don't [TS]

00:25:39   just send me that obvious ones on ebay [TS]

00:25:41   because I would have seen them already [TS]

00:25:42   it does have to be a little on the small [TS]

00:25:44   side but if you know you work in a [TS]

00:25:46   school in the UK and you're throwing [TS]

00:25:47   away your text of these benches and [TS]

00:25:49   there but i will be fussy well in [TS]

00:25:52   particular my wife especially will be [TS]

00:25:53   fancy but i'm in the market so let me [TS]

00:25:56   know [TS]

00:25:56   keep an eye out people maybe we need to [TS]

00:25:58   coordinate this on a separate thread on [TS]

00:26:00   the hello Internet subreddit or [TS]

00:26:01   something we'll see if we can try and [TS]

00:26:03   crowdsource this for you in an organized [TS]

00:26:05   fashion I would love that if we had like [TS]

00:26:07   a just little subreddit for helping [TS]

00:26:09   Brady find his woodworking bench [TS]

00:26:11   I didn't realize that you immediately [TS]

00:26:12   are jumping to a dedicated subreddit big [TS]

00:26:15   this is going to happen frequently ina [TS]

00:26:18   not a dedicated separate just a threat [TS]

00:26:20   just a thread [TS]

00:26:21   alright i'll i'll put a thread in the [TS]

00:26:22   show notes for people to try to organize [TS]

00:26:24   this for you Brady I really want this to [TS]

00:26:26   happen [TS]

00:26:27   well its most interesting podcast so [TS]

00:26:31   gray we're approaching Christmas we are [TS]

00:26:34   approaching Christmas of rapidly i have [TS]

00:26:36   a couple of Christmas related items [TS]

00:26:38   something I've complained about before [TS]

00:26:40   is becoming an increasingly common [TS]

00:26:42   complaint in the world at large but it [TS]

00:26:44   has just reached ridiculous proportions [TS]

00:26:46   now and there is some of the packaging [TS]

00:26:48   being used by amazon for receiving [TS]

00:26:52   products i'm talking oversized packaging [TS]

00:26:55   here [TS]

00:26:55   mhm the other day I had to buy two rolls [TS]

00:26:59   of brown-paper you know sort of the [TS]

00:27:02   butcher's type paper using numberphile [TS]

00:27:04   videos like a roll of wrapping paper [TS]

00:27:06   basically that size and two rolls put my [TS]

00:27:09   order in a couple of days later for [TS]

00:27:12   whatever reason the person who is [TS]

00:27:14   supplying it only had one roll available [TS]

00:27:16   and i had to wait a week for the second [TS]

00:27:17   one so only one arrived and i am not [TS]

00:27:20   kidding [TS]

00:27:21   the box it arrived in was the size of a [TS]

00:27:23   human coffin [TS]

00:27:26   I could have fit inside this box and I [TS]

00:27:30   open it up and I had lots and lots of [TS]

00:27:32   like stuffing paper in there to stop [TS]

00:27:34   this one small roll of paper from [TS]

00:27:36   bouncing around me and I took out my one [TS]

00:27:38   little roll of wrapping paper and I had [TS]

00:27:40   this enormous box that was so big I had [TS]

00:27:42   to take it to the tip because i couldn't [TS]

00:27:43   put it anywhere else [TS]

00:27:45   no really mm and then a few days later I [TS]

00:27:47   happened to be out when the second roll [TS]

00:27:49   arriving and sure enough it arrives in a [TS]

00:27:51   second coffin and the person because I [TS]

00:27:54   wasn't gonna take inside the delivery [TS]

00:27:56   man or delivery woman had to leave it [TS]

00:27:58   outside my house by the front lens and [TS]

00:28:00   it was raining so also got rained on the [TS]

00:28:03   stuff was okay in the end but i had to [TS]

00:28:05   go to the tip a second time this time [TS]

00:28:07   with a huge sopping wet cardboard [TS]

00:28:09   coffins and throw that one in the tip as [TS]

00:28:11   well and i was at the tip and I was I [TS]

00:28:13   was throwing this thing away and some [TS]

00:28:14   other guy was throwing something away [TS]

00:28:15   next to me and I said look at this could [TS]

00:28:17   you believe it i got in this huge thing [TS]

00:28:18   just for a small thing of wrapping paper [TS]

00:28:20   that which sent him off on a rant about [TS]

00:28:22   all the things he'd been receiving from [TS]

00:28:24   amazon with like he received one thing [TS]

00:28:26   from amazon that had stuffing paper in [TS]

00:28:27   there as well for protection [TS]

00:28:29   he measured and I had 30 meters of paper [TS]

00:28:32   in this box or condensed down to look [TS]

00:28:34   after whatever was in the box [TS]

00:28:36   he was so amazed he measured the paper [TS]

00:28:37   because he couldn't believe that this is [TS]

00:28:40   getting crazy it and I know they're [TS]

00:28:42   doing it for efficiency reason and i [TS]

00:28:44   know you don't care that much about [TS]

00:28:45   small things to help the environment [TS]

00:28:47   when only big things matter but this is [TS]

00:28:49   getting ridiculous [TS]

00:28:51   you are assuming things here and one of [TS]

00:28:54   these is like this is exactly the kind [TS]

00:28:56   of case where I think it does matter to [TS]

00:28:58   care because how many packages amazon [TS]

00:29:00   ship to my house alone hundreds a day as [TS]

00:29:03   far as i can tell right so if like if [TS]

00:29:05   you can get amazon to make their [TS]

00:29:07   packaging slightly smaller using less [TS]

00:29:10   materials like I think that's the kind [TS]

00:29:11   of thing that does have a reasonable [TS]

00:29:13   impact and it works at scale so i assume [TS]

00:29:16   like you're probably assuming that [TS]

00:29:18   Amazon is doing this because on whatever [TS]

00:29:20   spreadsheets they're using having a [TS]

00:29:23   smaller number of different sized boxes [TS]

00:29:26   to work with is more efficient for them [TS]

00:29:28   than having exactly the right size box [TS]

00:29:30   but I have definitely been [TS]

00:29:32   super-effective getting boxes that just [TS]

00:29:34   seemed comically miss sized for the [TS]

00:29:36   object that is being shipped and my [TS]

00:29:39   personal favorite example was just a [TS]

00:29:41   couple months ago i bought like a USB [TS]

00:29:43   thumb drive that I needed to transfer [TS]

00:29:45   some files back and forth so anything [TS]

00:29:47   that was literally the size of my thumb [TS]

00:29:48   came in a box that was the size of a [TS]

00:29:51   shoebox [TS]

00:29:52   but don't just write off like oh I don't [TS]

00:29:54   care about the environment and small [TS]

00:29:55   changes like this is exactly the kind of [TS]

00:29:57   thing that I think does matter in trying [TS]

00:29:59   to pressure a company like Amazon into [TS]

00:30:01   using more efficient material because [TS]

00:30:03   they must ship a bazillion boxes [TS]

00:30:05   absolutely everywhere [TS]

00:30:06   the only thing that's given me a small [TS]

00:30:08   amount of sympathy for them which is [TS]

00:30:10   happening the last week or two as [TS]

00:30:11   projekt revolution has started ramping [TS]

00:30:13   up as I can see why you would want to [TS]

00:30:15   overprotect items [TS]

00:30:18   mm because dealing with every email and [TS]

00:30:20   every everything about some mind a bit [TS]

00:30:22   of damage to a project revolution has [TS]

00:30:25   become difficult and time-consuming and [TS]

00:30:28   I completely understand i'm not [TS]

00:30:30   complaining because if you know that's [TS]

00:30:31   how it isn't for every person that one [TS]

00:30:33   record is very important to them and [TS]

00:30:35   it's not right it's not right so I'm not [TS]

00:30:37   complaining about the people [TS]

00:30:39   mm but it does make me realize that [TS]

00:30:41   it's difficult and like no matter what [TS]

00:30:43   you do or how well your package [TS]

00:30:44   something you know things happen and [TS]

00:30:46   then it becomes difficult so I have got [TS]

00:30:49   a little bit of sympathy for [TS]

00:30:50   overprotecting items but you do not need [TS]

00:30:52   a coffin for a rather paper or a shoe [TS]

00:30:56   box for a thumb drive your learning that [TS]

00:30:58   being a one-man logistics distributor is [TS]

00:31:00   actually quite difficult [TS]

00:31:01   that's Julie over there yeah and I do [TS]

00:31:04   feel like that despite having a [TS]

00:31:06   logistics company that supposed to be [TS]

00:31:07   doing the work for my customer support [TS]

00:31:08   is always quite a lot of it whenever you [TS]

00:31:10   do anything anyway we're getting there [TS]

00:31:13   people have been sending loads of photos [TS]

00:31:14   of them with their records and that's [TS]

00:31:16   really been exciting so keep them coming [TS]

00:31:18   and I hope you're all enjoying the vinyl [TS]

00:31:21   edition those of you who are partaking [TS]

00:31:22   let's stay on christmas day because i [TS]

00:31:25   have another Christmas story i'm really [TS]

00:31:27   curious as to what you're going to think [TS]

00:31:29   about is a moral standpoint or rightness [TS]

00:31:31   or wrongness ok there's a bit of fun [TS]

00:31:33   neither you or I have human children I [TS]

00:31:40   have doggie children but we don't have [TS]

00:31:43   human children that's fantastic way to [TS]

00:31:45   phrase that that's correct yes [TS]

00:31:47   neither of us have human children i [TS]

00:31:49   agree with some of my relatives do have [TS]

00:31:52   been spending a bit of time with [TS]

00:31:53   recently and I was with my nephew [TS]

00:31:55   recently and his parents and i was [TS]

00:31:58   introduced to a piece of technology that [TS]

00:32:01   they are using to help with behavior [TS]

00:32:04   control will i'm familiar with all the [TS]

00:32:07   different modes of behavior control of [TS]

00:32:08   children leave and I'm also quite [TS]

00:32:10   familiar with christmas-related ones I [TS]

00:32:12   don't know if you have you ever heard of [TS]

00:32:13   the elf on the shelf [TS]

00:32:15   I have heard of this and it just sounds [TS]

00:32:18   creepy to me but I've only heard about [TS]

00:32:20   this in passing so my understanding of [TS]

00:32:22   the elf on the shelf is that it's a [TS]

00:32:24   stuffed toy elf that you put on the [TS]

00:32:27   shelf and then you tell the child that [TS]

00:32:29   it's like Santa's spy who's watching you [TS]

00:32:32   all the time to make sure that you're [TS]

00:32:33   being good is that the basic idea of the [TS]

00:32:35   alfond the shell and that show yet [TS]

00:32:37   that's aI don't know if it's stuffed by [TS]

00:32:39   it is it's a toy elf movie [TS]

00:32:41   it comes with a book and you read the [TS]

00:32:42   child the book at the side of the [TS]

00:32:44   christmas season which explains the [TS]

00:32:45   backstory I don't know what the [TS]

00:32:46   backstory is and they give the Alpha [TS]

00:32:48   name and they're not to touch the over [TS]

00:32:50   there told if they touch the off the [TS]

00:32:52   world will end or something like so [TS]

00:32:53   trust me too [TS]

00:32:54   gonna absolutely petrified actually elf [TS]

00:32:57   and I have heard stories of children [TS]

00:32:59   calling 911 in fear after they have [TS]

00:33:02   touched their off accidentally k sounds [TS]

00:33:03   a little too effective [TS]

00:33:05   uh-huh yeah yeah but usually sitting in [TS]

00:33:08   accessible places to help with this no [TS]

00:33:10   changing thing but every night while the [TS]

00:33:13   child is a sleep it moves i think we all [TS]

00:33:16   know how but that's not saying case [TS]

00:33:18   there any belief is listening [TS]

00:33:20   ok also terrifying ok excited to be like [TS]

00:33:22   our look at last night they only move [TS]

00:33:24   from the top of the Christmas tree to [TS]

00:33:25   the kitchen cupboard or something but it [TS]

00:33:28   is watching them and so you can use this [TS]

00:33:30   with little helpful reminders like all [TS]

00:33:32   you sure you want to break that [TS]

00:33:33   christmas ornament when the help of [TS]

00:33:35   others watching so it's very effective [TS]

00:33:38   I sometimes have jerked why can't you [TS]

00:33:40   just use this all year round but I [TS]

00:33:41   imagine it would lose its effectiveness [TS]

00:33:42   and anybody works when their Christmas [TS]

00:33:45   presents an imminent we have a bit of [TS]

00:33:47   carrot and stick going on [TS]

00:33:49   so anyway that's the off on the Shelf [TS]

00:33:50   it's been quite a zeitgeist you think I [TS]

00:33:52   think for a few years now that sounds [TS]

00:33:53   absolutely terrifying the way to [TS]

00:33:54   describe it i didn't realize that the [TS]

00:33:56   elf moves that sounds like the plot of a [TS]

00:33:58   horror movie [TS]

00:33:58   I would just think like maybe the elf [TS]

00:34:00   gets closer write the words you're being [TS]

00:34:02   right you wake up in the morning right [TS]

00:34:04   in the alphas right next to your head [TS]

00:34:05   don't touch it attractive but it's right [TS]

00:34:07   there [TS]

00:34:08   if you've been very bad or like we go [TS]

00:34:10   into a room and it's like 90 of them hit [TS]

00:34:12   you have a string and you better get [TS]

00:34:13   through it my legs and back without the [TS]

00:34:17   alphas brought all of his friends [TS]

00:34:18   because you've been very naughty writing [TS]

00:34:20   and seeing what you're doing like a god [TS]

00:34:22   it's happened to the awful but all you [TS]

00:34:24   have like 10 of them surrounding your TV [TS]

00:34:26   remote control anyway I quite like it [TS]

00:34:30   because it's like you know may I like [TS]

00:34:32   books and toys and it's a bit [TS]

00:34:34   old-fashioned it seems like something [TS]

00:34:35   from another time [TS]

00:34:36   it really does it seems like a bygone [TS]

00:34:38   tradition or something it's surprising [TS]

00:34:40   that the new thing but technology has [TS]

00:34:41   moved on and last week I was shown as [TS]

00:34:44   sort of a more modern equivalent [TS]

00:34:46   apparently there's a few of these around [TS]

00:34:48   I've just got one of them [TS]

00:34:49   this is an app you have on your phone [TS]

00:34:50   and I've got one here called Santa Claus [TS]

00:34:54   it's the 2016 version of elf on the [TS]

00:34:57   shelf because what happens is you [TS]

00:34:59   configure the app and if you pay money [TS]

00:35:00   you can configure it with even more [TS]

00:35:02   power but i'm just using the free [TS]

00:35:03   version here so i'm using edit most [TS]

00:35:05   limited and what happens is this [TS]

00:35:07   that allows Santa Claus to call your [TS]

00:35:11   phone in front of your child then [TS]

00:35:15   conversations can in see you let me give [TS]

00:35:17   you an example [TS]

00:35:18   I'm gonna open up my app now what is [TS]

00:35:21   this app called it's called Santa Claus [TS]

00:35:22   so i've configured the app i'm now going [TS]

00:35:26   to shed your the call you can [TS]

00:35:28   pre-program very save as and I've [TS]

00:35:29   programmed 14 someone called gray who is [TS]

00:35:33   my five-year-old child health ok and you [TS]

00:35:37   can choose a long list of reasons for [TS]

00:35:39   the Santa coaling the reason for this [TS]

00:35:41   call is going to be a check on behavior [TS]

00:35:43   to check if behaving and then you can [TS]

00:35:45   tell the app when this mysterious phone [TS]

00:35:47   call is going to arrive i'm going to say [TS]

00:35:49   let's have immediately so say my [TS]

00:35:51   five-year-old Gray's being naughty or I [TS]

00:35:55   want to modify his behavior i feel [TS]

00:35:56   really uncomfortable right now but i [TS]

00:35:59   will sneakily pull out my app i will [TS]

00:36:01   configure this call and let me press the [TS]

00:36:03   button and then what happens in a few [TS]

00:36:05   seconds my fine we'll go black so it [TS]

00:36:07   looks like its inactive because kids [TS]

00:36:09   notice stuff and then my phone has about [TS]

00:36:11   to go black [TS]

00:36:12   it's gone black and here we go what [TS]

00:36:14   happens so good on speaker and a picture [TS]

00:36:19   of Santa Clauses incoming call from [TS]

00:36:21   Santa Claus with a red or a green find a [TS]

00:36:23   press grain to accept the call has a [TS]

00:36:25   picture of Santa oppressed [TS]

00:36:33   there's even a timer like a plan who [TS]

00:36:36   would have [TS]

00:36:38   my name Trey [TS]

00:36:43   I need to have you on the phone I [TS]

00:36:52   yes I'm five [TS]

00:36:57   I just want [TS]

00:37:02   she all bigger promise [TS]

00:37:14   so anyway I just hang up on sanchez Cole [TS]

00:37:23   ended I swear to god that feels like [TS]

00:37:26   real life black mirrors somehow just [TS]

00:37:28   feel like something out of a button [TS]

00:37:30   I couldn't decide if it was good or bad [TS]

00:37:33   I was talking to my nephew's parents [TS]

00:37:34   about it because they've been using it [TS]

00:37:36   but it's gotten to a point there with a [TS]

00:37:37   bit scared to use it because their [TS]

00:37:39   little boy he's a great little boy honey [TS]

00:37:41   like he did something naughty the other [TS]

00:37:43   day which he rarely does and the minute [TS]

00:37:46   he did it he like looked at the phone [TS]

00:37:48   yeah and he thought said it was about to [TS]

00:37:51   coldplay Santa keeps calling whenever [TS]

00:37:53   he's snorting oh he looked at the phone [TS]

00:37:56   and started like trembling so the [TS]

00:37:57   parents like I can go to start this but [TS]

00:37:59   I mean when you first had that thing [TS]

00:38:02   ring and started playing the music okay [TS]

00:38:05   this is the first time I've ever heard [TS]

00:38:07   it but I thought man that would take [TS]

00:38:09   about one exposure to develop a movie in [TS]

00:38:12   response right to that music writer just [TS]

00:38:14   like horror and I'm in trouble in the [TS]

00:38:17   same way that you know you should never [TS]

00:38:19   set a sound or a tune that you like as [TS]

00:38:22   your alarm clock in the morning because [TS]

00:38:23   you will grow too low that song that [TS]

00:38:26   thing makes it feel like Santa Claus is [TS]

00:38:28   terrifying and the whole piece easy when [TS]

00:38:31   you're sleeping he knows when you're [TS]

00:38:32   awake things like obviously that's [TS]

00:38:34   creepy if you think about it but [TS]

00:38:36   something about the way that I have says [TS]

00:38:38   that was like Santa directly addressing [TS]

00:38:40   you that like I watch you while you [TS]

00:38:41   sleep it's ok it's a cunning to it looks [TS]

00:38:45   just like a phone call you know it's got [TS]

00:38:46   the green and the red icons gotta [TS]

00:38:48   counter when the phone call starts like [TS]

00:38:50   a time after her and like a little icon [TS]

00:38:53   for Santa so you can see the person [TS]

00:38:54   who's calling its its devious yeah I [TS]

00:38:57   find that scary and terrifying i can see [TS]

00:38:59   how this stuff is useful for parents but [TS]

00:39:02   something about it makes me uneasy in a [TS]

00:39:05   way that I can't quite define if you are [TS]

00:39:08   willing to pay [TS]

00:39:09   there's all sorts of things you can [TS]

00:39:11   build into it like me you can take a [TS]

00:39:13   picture of your house and then when you [TS]

00:39:15   have [TS]

00:39:16   in conversations with Santa a picture of [TS]

00:39:17   your house will come up and if you [TS]

00:39:18   haven't got a chimney hill explain how [TS]

00:39:20   he can get into your house without a [TS]

00:39:21   chimney and so the whole charade their [TS]

00:39:24   asset is really really elaborate it's [TS]

00:39:27   really full-on would you use that on a [TS]

00:39:29   human child Brady would you feel [TS]

00:39:31   comfortable using that on a human child [TS]

00:39:33   well we're about to talk about some [TS]

00:39:35   things about Santa Claus that young [TS]

00:39:36   people might not want to hear right [TS]

00:39:37   we're going to discuss them center [TS]

00:39:39   secrets people [TS]

00:39:40   here's your warning hoho so in that [TS]

00:39:43   context how is it different from what [TS]

00:39:46   we've been doing all their lives with [TS]

00:39:47   Santa Claus what we've been doing this [TS]

00:39:49   for years anyway this is just a new tool [TS]

00:39:51   in the arsenal we take kids to sit on [TS]

00:39:54   Santa's lap and tell them that Santa and [TS]

00:39:56   he said services what you want for [TS]

00:39:57   christmas and I'm gonna bring your stuff [TS]

00:39:59   for Christmas so to look at this app and [TS]

00:40:01   say that's outrageous how can we be to [TS]

00:40:02   saving children like this like we don't [TS]

00:40:05   already i'm not saying that it's [TS]

00:40:06   outrageous [TS]

00:40:07   I'm just saying that it feels like a [TS]

00:40:09   weaponized version of the traditional [TS]

00:40:11   story like the regular thing is just [TS]

00:40:13   fine but this is tuned so precisely that [TS]

00:40:18   it becomes different in kind rather than [TS]

00:40:22   just different amount that's what it [TS]

00:40:23   feels like right at the weaponized Santa [TS]

00:40:26   is like precision targeted to press all [TS]

00:40:29   of the buttons of a child and that's [TS]

00:40:31   what makes me feel a little bit [TS]

00:40:32   uncomfortable as opposed to oh there's [TS]

00:40:35   this folk tale that we tell that happens [TS]

00:40:38   to be useful around the holidays but we [TS]

00:40:40   haven't liked refined it into this [TS]

00:40:43   precise thing I think that's what I feel [TS]

00:40:45   a little bit weird and uncomfortable [TS]

00:40:46   with that have I ever told you my story [TS]

00:40:50   about learning the truth of health [TS]

00:40:52   center [TS]

00:40:53   I don't think so tell me Brady so my [TS]

00:40:57   parents were always quite big on me [TS]

00:40:58   knowing the truth of life quite early [TS]

00:41:00   they treated me quite grown up so I was [TS]

00:41:03   told the shocking truth about Santa [TS]

00:41:06   Claus quite early and I was told the [TS]

00:41:09   same time as my poor sister was 18 [TS]

00:41:11   months younger say she had 18 months [TS]

00:41:12   less magic that may em and i was told i [TS]

00:41:15   was very specifically told not to tell [TS]

00:41:17   my other friends soon as they still [TS]

00:41:19   believe in santa ana was explained to me [TS]

00:41:21   that the utility of Santa my the others [TS]

00:41:23   must be allowed to believe right right [TS]

00:41:25   so sure enough the next day I went to [TS]

00:41:27   scott when you know what the first thing [TS]

00:41:28   I did was [TS]

00:41:28   right I code together over lads and said [TS]

00:41:31   guys I got some big days right [TS]

00:41:34   this is day one of investigative [TS]

00:41:36   journalists Brady the story is I've [TS]

00:41:40   break the story to like other boys in my [TS]

00:41:42   class in 15 of them but the problem was [TS]

00:41:44   the most popular boy in school like you [TS]

00:41:47   know the cock of the roost or whatever [TS]

00:41:48   you want to call him moving guy called [TS]

00:41:50   Simon he didn't believe me he was a big [TS]

00:41:52   Santa believer [TS]

00:41:54   so he told all the other boys in the [TS]

00:41:56   class guys Brady's talking rubbish [TS]

00:41:59   mm and I was basically ostracized for [TS]

00:42:01   the day I was a pariah right Simon had [TS]

00:42:04   decided Brady was telling miss truths [TS]

00:42:06   about Santa Claus so I was frozen out [TS]

00:42:08   obviously that not Simon went home and [TS]

00:42:11   told his parents and said look radiant [TS]

00:42:13   school has been said this stuff but he [TS]

00:42:16   obviously said his parents but don't [TS]

00:42:17   worry I've taken care of it and his [TS]

00:42:19   parents obviously felt sorry for me [TS]

00:42:21   so they secretly told Simon and Simon [TS]

00:42:23   look the brady was telling the truth and [TS]

00:42:26   so I'm and got the same talked that [TS]

00:42:28   night that you know the shocking truth [TS]

00:42:30   that was so funny the next day like at [TS]

00:42:32   recess [TS]

00:42:34   Simon like convened all the boys in the [TS]

00:42:36   class and we also have stood in a circle [TS]

00:42:37   and he was like guys I got some big year [TS]

00:42:40   Brady was telling the truth and I then [TS]

00:42:43   everyone believed Simon told them it [TS]

00:42:45   wasn't real so for de Santa like cost [TS]

00:42:49   matin but you know my social status but [TS]

00:42:51   then the next day I was like redeem [TS]

00:42:53   right but you got another source on the [TS]

00:42:55   record right that's what made it all the [TS]

00:42:56   more believable [TS]

00:42:57   I should have done that in the first [TS]

00:42:58   place i should have had two sources with [TS]

00:43:00   that was my mistake with better anyway I [TS]

00:43:03   learned from that what was your Santa [TS]

00:43:05   experience as a youngster I don't have a [TS]

00:43:07   particular memory of freaking out the [TS]

00:43:10   truth [TS]

00:43:11   what I do remember is that there was a [TS]

00:43:12   period of suspicion that I had as a [TS]

00:43:14   child I was like I'm not sure the center [TS]

00:43:16   stories holding together right and my [TS]

00:43:18   parents cleverly delayed it for maybe [TS]

00:43:21   one or two Christmases by modifying the [TS]

00:43:24   story slightly by saying oh yes [TS]

00:43:26   obviously some of the presents are from [TS]

00:43:28   us and some of them are from Santa and [TS]

00:43:31   whatever age I was I was like oh that [TS]

00:43:33   explains some of these inconsistency [TS]

00:43:35   edges got a longer that for a little [TS]

00:43:37   while longer but yeah i know some people [TS]

00:43:39   have [TS]

00:43:40   dramatic discovery of the terrible truth [TS]

00:43:42   about Santa I have no memory of when [TS]

00:43:44   this occurred or out the details [TS]

00:43:46   happened i don't remember it all when I [TS]

00:43:48   found out the truth I'd love paper to [TS]

00:43:50   put in the credit notes for this show [TS]

00:43:52   how they found out about Santa Claus I'd [TS]

00:43:54   be really interested find that out i was [TS]

00:43:56   a shock to me and my sister remember [TS]

00:43:57   that because it was done while [TS]

00:43:59   decorating the Christmas tree of all [TS]

00:44:01   times [TS]

00:44:01   my mom was decorating the Christmas tree [TS]

00:44:03   and called us in to tell us that kind of [TS]

00:44:05   had this like evil aspect to it there [TS]

00:44:07   was a few seconds of like stunned [TS]

00:44:09   silence and like processing the [TS]

00:44:11   information i think the first question [TS]

00:44:12   is when the president comes from of [TS]

00:44:13   course and that was explained and then [TS]

00:44:16   it was what about the Easter Bunny [TS]

00:44:17   weekend like said easter bunny died that [TS]

00:44:19   day too right we got the sad news for [TS]

00:44:22   you about him [TS]

00:44:23   yeah and then there was like this more [TS]

00:44:24   like desolation for like a minute or so [TS]

00:44:26   notice how the Tooth Fairy same all [TS]

00:44:30   these people just don't like came [TS]

00:44:32   crashing down at once he's a weird moral [TS]

00:44:35   dilemma about what to do with children [TS]

00:44:37   and Santa Claus like if I had human [TS]

00:44:40   children i'm not sure how I would handle [TS]

00:44:42   that situation with Santa because [TS]

00:44:45   obviously some people grow up and feel [TS]

00:44:47   super betrayed of physic ways that like [TS]

00:44:50   it as an adults they still kind of feel [TS]

00:44:52   quite strongly about and I could never [TS]

00:44:54   quite figure out is this a good thing [TS]

00:44:56   that we do as a society or is it not a [TS]

00:44:59   good thing that we do as society overall [TS]

00:45:02   is it a good lesson for children to [TS]

00:45:04   learn like oh the adult world not only [TS]

00:45:06   will it lie to you but they will be like [TS]

00:45:08   a vast conspiracy to keep the truth away [TS]

00:45:11   from you like in a way that you could [TS]

00:45:12   not possibly believe is a child like [TS]

00:45:14   maybe that's a good lesson for people to [TS]

00:45:16   learn i don't know like is that the [TS]

00:45:17   lesson Santa teaches us all I don't [TS]

00:45:19   think that's the lesson that people take [TS]

00:45:21   away from Santa I think they take away a [TS]

00:45:23   lesson of personal disappointment so I [TS]

00:45:25   have very mixed feelings on the cultural [TS]

00:45:27   institution of Santa as it relates to [TS]

00:45:30   children [TS]

00:45:31   what do you think Brady i love i love i [TS]

00:45:34   love Santa like i love christmas i love [TS]

00:45:36   that like the idea the decorations this [TS]

00:45:38   like idea of Santa I'm a little bit more [TS]

00:45:41   ambiguous about the enormous conspiracy [TS]

00:45:44   around santa is he related to children [TS]

00:45:47   are it'll just gives us it gives the [TS]

00:45:48   kids pleasure it gives us adults [TS]

00:45:50   pleasure as we wink at each other and [TS]

00:45:52   tell the [TS]

00:45:52   stories yeah sort of relate to something [TS]

00:45:55   you said earlier that which I find a [TS]

00:45:57   strange development incentive closet [TS]

00:45:59   you said how we bring kids to see Santa [TS]

00:46:01   and have him sit on Santa's lap and i [TS]

00:46:04   have noticed with the friends that I [TS]

00:46:06   have who have children who are in the [TS]

00:46:07   Santa age range that all of the mall [TS]

00:46:10   Santas the rule is now that you are not [TS]

00:46:12   allowed to sit on Santa's lap and so [TS]

00:46:14   they all have pictures of their child [TS]

00:46:16   sitting next to Santa Claus instead of [TS]

00:46:18   sitting on his lap shaking his head [TS]

00:46:20   yeah I assume that it's part of this [TS]

00:46:22   like bizarre paranoia that the UK has [TS]

00:46:25   over pedophiles like home mall Santa [TS]

00:46:28   right might be a dangerous situations [TS]

00:46:30   like I can't imagine a less dangerous [TS]

00:46:32   situation then the mall Santa but the [TS]

00:46:35   thing that bothers me about it is it's [TS]

00:46:37   like okay [TS]

00:46:37   the character of Santa Claus is someone [TS]

00:46:40   who loves kids right and so it's like [TS]

00:46:41   obviously he said the kid on on [TS]

00:46:42   someone's lap when you turn the [TS]

00:46:44   photograph into a child sitting next to [TS]

00:46:46   Santa now suddenly it looks really weird [TS]

00:46:49   right now suddenly looks like maybe [TS]

00:46:51   there's something going on with that [TS]

00:46:52   Santa right so it's like everything was [TS]

00:46:54   fine before and then in your weird [TS]

00:46:57   effort to be like oh we don't have to [TS]

00:47:00   worry about pedophiles like you make the [TS]

00:47:02   world looks like it's more dangerous [TS]

00:47:03   when children can't even sit on Santa's [TS]

00:47:06   lap so I have been annoyed by a series [TS]

00:47:08   of photos that i have seen like this [TS]

00:47:09   where the parents are saying oh you're [TS]

00:47:10   not allowed to have the child sit on [TS]

00:47:12   Santa's lap we have to sit the child [TS]

00:47:14   next to Santa and look like a pretty big [TS]

00:47:16   gap in between it's just weird it's [TS]

00:47:18   really weird and I don't like it and I [TS]

00:47:21   think it's one of these cases where the [TS]

00:47:22   world has gone super paranoid I great [TS]

00:47:24   and your grace child protection like is [TS]

00:47:26   a serious issue and there have been a [TS]

00:47:27   couple stories in the last few weeks in [TS]

00:47:29   the UK that have exacerbated the [TS]

00:47:30   situation not involving Santa Claus [TS]

00:47:32   sighs and who but i think the child [TS]

00:47:35   protection thing can go a little bit far [TS]

00:47:37   and you're right it suddenly makes it an [TS]

00:47:39   issue in like it ties the Santa with the [TS]

00:47:42   allegation [TS]

00:47:43   yeah exactly it totally does it's a case [TS]

00:47:45   of trying to make things better but like [TS]

00:47:47   you've made it worse [TS]

00:47:48   you make it said it looks so much more [TS]

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00:49:29   packaging is just so nice there's a lot [TS]

00:49:31   of little details with the way they wrap [TS]

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00:50:06   bring the show so I had a couple of [TS]

00:50:10   funny little stories and it's more [TS]

00:50:13   braggy than humble little so I'm gonna [TS]

00:50:16   brag a bit but there is also some [TS]

00:50:19   humbling in it I was trying to think [TS]

00:50:20   what cola and you naming system and I [TS]

00:50:23   think it's like a a humble brag brag [TS]

00:50:26   brag humble know what I don't know [TS]

00:50:29   there's a lot of components to be going [TS]

00:50:31   very German with the humble brag now [TS]

00:50:32   you're building up a unique word to have [TS]

00:50:34   the exact ratios of how much humble [TS]

00:50:36   versus how much Bragg's in the story [TS]

00:50:38   yeah okay so my sister who lives in [TS]

00:50:41   singapore was out the other day in for [TS]

00:50:43   her anniversary at dinner and her and [TS]

00:50:46   her husband got talking to a couple next [TS]

00:50:48   to them and they got talking about [TS]

00:50:50   mathematics one of the people next one [TS]

00:50:52   was really into mathematics and I think [TS]

00:50:53   my brother and northern said oh my [TS]

00:50:55   brother-in-law is a guy in England and [TS]

00:50:57   he makes videos about mathematics soon [TS]

00:50:59   and suddenly this guy looks at my sister [TS]

00:51:02   and says hey you Brady Haran sister she [TS]

00:51:07   was that [TS]

00:51:08   yeah and like he was so excited and then [TS]

00:51:11   all the family was called over and like [TS]

00:51:12   my sister had to pose for photos with [TS]

00:51:14   them and her anniversary didn't she had [TS]

00:51:17   to pose for photos with the guy sitting [TS]

00:51:18   at the table next to them because like [TS]

00:51:20   she was the sister of like someone who [TS]

00:51:22   makes numberphile videos [TS]

00:51:23   mhm so this was a funny story and as you [TS]

00:51:26   know i enjoy any chance I have to lord [TS]

00:51:28   over my sister had she like hated that [TS]

00:51:30   say i've been i've been giving her a [TS]

00:51:31   hard time right that makes it 10 * [TS]

00:51:33   better right [TS]

00:51:34   exactly so not only do I feel like I'm [TS]

00:51:36   mr. big famous numberphile guy who makes [TS]

00:51:38   the videos even my sister has to let [TS]

00:51:39   post photos right like great somebody [TS]

00:51:41   else rubbed it in my sister's face [TS]

00:51:43   perfect example that was all well and [TS]

00:51:46   good and a couple of days later [TS]

00:51:47   remember that's this kelvin medal from [TS]

00:51:49   the institute of physics that the [TS]

00:51:50   symbols one we had the award ceremony [TS]

00:51:52   for that the other day who so we all [TS]

00:51:55   dressed up in in a penguin suits and [TS]

00:51:57   went to this award ceremony and it was [TS]

00:51:59   really good and again we were feeling [TS]

00:52:01   like the big superstars because we were [TS]

00:52:02   getting our prize and before the awards [TS]

00:52:05   ceremony starts I'm told by one of the [TS]

00:52:08   organizers I say those two young people [TS]

00:52:09   over there like young gifted physics [TS]

00:52:12   students and they're going to be [TS]

00:52:13   presenting your award because they're [TS]

00:52:15   presenting some awards kind of United's [TS]

00:52:17   like an initiative to get young talented [TS]

00:52:19   students [TS]

00:52:19   engage with professional physics and a [TS]

00:52:22   treat for them and it's a nice idea [TS]

00:52:23   isn't having school students present the [TS]

00:52:25   awards who and the guy says to me and I [TS]

00:52:28   think you know it's a bit of a daunting [TS]

00:52:31   experience with all these old physicist [TS]

00:52:32   around I think that get a real thrill [TS]

00:52:34   out of getting to like meet you and have [TS]

00:52:35   a chat with you because you know you're [TS]

00:52:37   like the YouTube star person with [TS]

00:52:39   celebrity yeah so I'm like of course I'd [TS]

00:52:42   be really happy to talk to them to be [TS]

00:52:43   really great what a great idea so I went [TS]

00:52:45   over and spoke to them and I was talking [TS]

00:52:47   to one of the guys and I'm like hi Brady [TS]

00:52:49   and it was explained to him that I was [TS]

00:52:51   getting an award he was like I was [TS]

00:52:52   really nice on that yeah make these [TS]

00:52:54   videos [TS]

00:52:55   we're getting this award for sixty [TS]

00:52:56   symbols and someone that's a deal to dr [TS]

00:52:59   to watch sixty symbols and he's like [TS]

00:53:01   blank never heard of it with it and I'm [TS]

00:53:03   like okay let's put me down a peg and [TS]

00:53:06   I'm like so I'm trying to make [TS]

00:53:07   conversation with this guy who doesn't [TS]

00:53:09   know me from Adam and I'm just another [TS]

00:53:10   boring old person to it so I said Mr do [TS]

00:53:13   you watch youtube videos like science [TS]

00:53:15   youtube videos these are here I really [TS]

00:53:16   love them mmm and I'm like oh tell me [TS]

00:53:18   some of the ones you watch and I was [TS]

00:53:20   hoping he'd like to say like numberphile [TS]

00:53:21   a periodic videos or something and I [TS]

00:53:23   could go yeah hey guess who I am [TS]

00:53:25   mm so he starts listing off the ones he [TS]

00:53:27   likes nothing I make gets a mention [TS]

00:53:30   I'll tell you that right now but the one [TS]

00:53:33   he mentions first that he absolutely [TS]

00:53:34   loves is veritasium I'll of veritasium [TS]

00:53:38   videos in my favor [TS]

00:53:40   so after what happened to my sister I'm [TS]

00:53:42   now forced to resort to Fame by [TS]

00:53:44   association and I'm like uh yeah I know [TS]

00:53:49   Derek like I hang around and then he's [TS]

00:53:51   like our i really like the source and [TS]

00:53:54   I'm looking haha I don't Michael too but [TS]

00:53:57   like he's so excited that I know Derek [TS]

00:53:59   em so I i send Derek text he's in [TS]

00:54:03   california and i say i'm a some awards [TS]

00:54:05   ceremony try to impress some kid who [TS]

00:54:06   doesn't know me [TS]

00:54:07   nobody like i try to i'm trying to [TS]

00:54:11   because if it had been my job to make [TS]

00:54:13   his night like I've been told he'd get [TS]

00:54:15   through from speaking to me and he [TS]

00:54:17   didn't give two hoots about me I feel [TS]

00:54:18   like you really just crossed told me [TS]

00:54:21   it's like okay this is sort of a funny [TS]

00:54:25   story about how someone doesn't know who [TS]

00:54:27   you are and there can be these really [TS]

00:54:29   weird awkward social situations where if [TS]

00:54:31   you make your living in a public way [TS]

00:54:33   and like someone introduces you in a way [TS]

00:54:35   where they expect someone to know who [TS]

00:54:36   you are [TS]

00:54:37   like I've been in some of the situations [TS]

00:54:38   and I hate it when someone introduces me [TS]

00:54:40   like as this person they expect someone [TS]

00:54:42   else to know as I can please never do [TS]

00:54:44   that is it no upside to it can be super [TS]

00:54:47   awkward so like I have so much sympathy [TS]

00:54:49   for you in this situation and the odds [TS]

00:54:51   are so small because like our audiences [TS]

00:54:53   I really so small when this game of [TS]

00:54:54   things the chances of someone knowing [TS]

00:54:56   it's a money [TS]

00:54:57   yeah it's this very interesting thing [TS]

00:54:59   with YouTube fame where it's like it can [TS]

00:55:00   be large but it's so narrow at the same [TS]

00:55:03   time it's not generalized Fame like [TS]

00:55:06   celebrity so yeah I go out of my way to [TS]

00:55:08   avoid those situations and so I like I'm [TS]

00:55:10   listening to the story i'm totally with [TS]

00:55:12   you home all on board except for now or [TS]

00:55:14   when you cross the line and he cute [TS]

00:55:17   that's it's a trick me like you're [TS]

00:55:18   talking to this guy I didn't do this in [TS]

00:55:20   front of the guy [TS]

00:55:21   mm you know cuz i would i text eric [TS]

00:55:23   occasionally we share fighting so we're [TS]

00:55:25   like you know this is something we would [TS]

00:55:26   do anyway [TS]

00:55:27   mm so I basically said I'm i'm at this [TS]

00:55:29   award ceremony and funny thing happened [TS]

00:55:31   the guy's a massive fan of yours and it [TS]

00:55:33   doesn't know me from Adam and I'm [TS]

00:55:34   supposed to be you know the star of the [TS]

00:55:35   night so then i say derek i told you at [TS]

00:55:38   the guys name and said can you do me a [TS]

00:55:39   favor and what a great guy Derek is that [TS]

00:55:42   what great guy he is [TS]

00:55:43   mhm he on the spot unlike a sidewalk in [TS]

00:55:46   California and sent me a video of a [TS]

00:55:48   personal message to this guy and I heels [TS]

00:55:51   they did it so well he made it really [TS]

00:55:52   like charming he said hey said the guys [TS]

00:55:54   name here at the award ceremony and I [TS]

00:55:56   hope you have a really great night and [TS]

00:55:57   then I'm glad you got to meet brady and [TS]

00:55:59   I'm glad you like protesting very classy [TS]

00:56:01   like you know 22nd message so then i [TS]

00:56:03   texted off to this guy and I my god did [TS]

00:56:06   that make is not he was so excited I [TS]

00:56:08   felt like about 1 foot tall but I still [TS]

00:56:12   deliver the goods and made his not [TS]

00:56:13   thanks to a good friend go from various [TS]

00:56:15   tablet so it started all very braggy and [TS]

00:56:18   by the end of it all I was pretty [TS]

00:56:20   humbled that is humbled in the proper [TS]

00:56:22   use of the term right feeling lower than [TS]

00:56:24   you are [TS]

00:56:25   as opposed to the way people seem to use [TS]

00:56:27   it when they have achieved massive [TS]

00:56:28   success and its really feel humbled when [TS]

00:56:31   I did receive my word i could I didn't [TS]

00:56:33   make space for anything that I could [TS]

00:56:34   have said I'm truly humbled tonight and [TS]

00:56:36   it would have been telling the truth I [TS]

00:56:37   will warn you in advance Brady just in [TS]

00:56:39   case you needed it but if you're ever in [TS]

00:56:41   a situation where someone knows who I am [TS]

00:56:44   but doesn't know who you [TS]

00:56:46   our don't expect me to send a charming [TS]

00:56:49   video message to the person so that you [TS]

00:56:51   can impress them [TS]

00:56:51   yeah do you think I'd ask i don't know i [TS]

00:56:55   don't know how much pressure you'd be [TS]

00:56:56   under to deliver the goods of making [TS]

00:56:58   sure that this person knows that no [TS]

00:57:00   person on the other hand if i have it [TS]

00:57:01   was slight Destin Destin probably make [TS]

00:57:03   them a 5-foot paper measured sculpture [TS]

00:57:05   or something if it was destined he'd be [TS]

00:57:06   landing in a helicopter in 20 minutes so [TS]

00:57:11   gray bi weekly weigh-in [TS]

00:57:14   hey dub wow this feels really out of the [TS]

00:57:18   blue [TS]

00:57:19   what makes you bring up the bi-weekly [TS]

00:57:20   way and Brady you told me that if you [TS]

00:57:22   love something you let it go and if it's [TS]

00:57:24   truly yours it comes back to you [TS]

00:57:25   I've come back to you wow yeah I feel [TS]

00:57:28   like it has been a year i have no idea [TS]

00:57:30   how long it takes for the long time I'm [TS]

00:57:33   having another run at it just to be [TS]

00:57:35   clear I'm really happy about this [TS]

00:57:36   I just assumed I'd never be hearing [TS]

00:57:38   these words ever again but it seems like [TS]

00:57:41   right before Christmas might be the [TS]

00:57:45   worst time in the world to start up a [TS]

00:57:48   health kick [TS]

00:57:48   so tell me what's going on what's going [TS]

00:57:50   on I don't know just something happened [TS]

00:57:53   something flicked in my mind I've [TS]

00:57:54   suddenly I haven't sorted my food out [TS]

00:57:56   yet [TS]

00:57:57   okay that is a switch I'm yet to flick [TS]

00:57:59   and we actually had to do your christmas [TS]

00:58:00   stuff with family early because my wife [TS]

00:58:04   and i are working over Christmas so [TS]

00:58:05   we've done a lab starts a really bad [TS]

00:58:08   eating the last week oh man what i have [TS]

00:58:11   done is we joined a gym are quite like [TS]

00:58:14   nearby and I've started very regular [TS]

00:58:17   personal training sessions Oh [TS]

00:58:18   interesting [TS]

00:58:21   so you're working with a personal [TS]

00:58:22   training i am at when possible which is [TS]

00:58:25   not always possible [TS]

00:58:26   best-case scenario three days awake wow [TS]

00:58:28   that's fantastic how are you finding it [TS]

00:58:30   I have done personal training before em [TS]

00:58:33   when it comes to exercise its it's the [TS]

00:58:35   way to go for me because I'm quite a [TS]

00:58:38   proud person i'm not willing to like [TS]

00:58:40   fail in front of someone even if it's [TS]

00:58:43   just one person say if the personal [TS]

00:58:44   trainer says all right I want you to do [TS]

00:58:46   10 of them and then five of them i'm [TS]

00:58:49   going to be hard as nails and say well [TS]

00:58:51   alright i'm not going to let you see me [TS]

00:58:53   not be able to it so basically he knows [TS]

00:58:56   I'm unfit and he says let's start with [TS]

00:58:58   this and see if you can do it [TS]

00:58:59   time I do something he's like oh wow I'm [TS]

00:59:01   surprised you did that lets up the ante [TS]

00:59:03   he's not realizing that I'm dying inside [TS]

00:59:05   but I right like I'm just like pushing [TS]

00:59:07   myself to the limits of human endurance [TS]

00:59:08   so that I would not be able to do [TS]

00:59:10   something ask me to do he could probably [TS]

00:59:12   say gonna lift up that car and I do it [TS]

00:59:14   just out of sheer stubbornness great [TS]

00:59:16   that seems like a good way to handle [TS]

00:59:17   your personal health [TS]

00:59:18   ok I've got to sort my food out because [TS]

00:59:21   it's all for naught if I at the moment [TS]

00:59:23   I'm just robbing Peter to pay Paul [TS]

00:59:25   hmm but it's a start and I've done I've [TS]

00:59:28   done five sessions so far and I'm gonna [TS]

00:59:30   try and stick with it even stopping [TS]

00:59:33   there would be a cause of great personal [TS]

00:59:35   shame the only type the reason I left my [TS]

00:59:37   previous personal trainer was because i [TS]

00:59:38   left the city i moved away from [TS]

00:59:39   Nottingham so I can't imagine stopping [TS]

00:59:41   with a personal trainer so the only [TS]

00:59:43   thing that's going to cause this to stop [TS]

00:59:44   is me moving house [TS]

00:59:47   Lou like so i can no longer see him or [TS]

00:59:49   the most likely scenario is him changing [TS]

00:59:51   jobs are not being a personal trainer [TS]

00:59:53   anymore but until then I can't really [TS]

00:59:56   see what will stop making wow this is [TS]

00:59:58   fantastic news [TS]

00:59:59   I feel like I'm [TS]

00:59:59   I feel like I'm [TS]

01:00:00   just totally unprepared for this I [TS]

01:00:01   didn't know this was going to happen do [TS]

01:00:02   you want to restart like regular [TS]

01:00:05   conversations around this like do you [TS]

01:00:07   want to do the weigh-in with numbers [TS]

01:00:08   again or what are you thinking what's [TS]

01:00:10   going on with your mind here i'm not [TS]

01:00:11   thinking that I'm just letting you know [TS]

01:00:13   i'm back on the horse and you know how [TS]

01:00:15   well it's going by how often I bring it [TS]

01:00:17   up haha yeah okay see that's what I was [TS]

01:00:20   kind of thinking okay so so you're not [TS]

01:00:22   committing to any kind of structured [TS]

01:00:24   schedule here [TS]

01:00:25   well I don't see a point now because you [TS]

01:00:27   got where you wanted to be and you've [TS]

01:00:28   got the body beautiful when you're [TS]

01:00:29   living the dream now and so there's no [TS]

01:00:31   real comparison to be made I'm just [TS]

01:00:33   flying skyliner I achieve the way that I [TS]

01:00:35   wanted to which is under 200 pounds but [TS]

01:00:38   i think to say that i have the body [TS]

01:00:39   beautiful now [TS]

01:00:40   not exactly an accurate description like [TS]

01:00:42   I could definitely do a lot more and/or [TS]

01:00:45   various reasons in particular over the [TS]

01:00:47   last several weeks like I have been very [TS]

01:00:48   off the wagon as far as it comes to [TS]

01:00:50   health and then when Christmas is [TS]

01:00:52   rolling around I feel like goodbye wagon [TS]

01:00:55   I'll catch you in January right like I'm [TS]

01:00:56   not even i'm not going to make any kind [TS]

01:00:58   of pretending so I am by no means on any [TS]

01:01:00   kind of health kick but i'll just put it [TS]

01:01:03   out there like if you wanted to ever do [TS]

01:01:04   anything more structural more formal [TS]

01:01:06   like I've got plenty of progress to [TS]

01:01:08   still make even though i achieved my [TS]

01:01:10   first goal so that would be something [TS]

01:01:11   I'd be very open to baby steps cry [TS]

01:01:13   babies i'm not gonna pressure you that's [TS]

01:01:15   right i'm gonna let this Bird go fly [TS]

01:01:17   back out and maybe we'll check in [TS]

01:01:20   another year and we'll find out how that [TS]

01:01:21   personal training has been going [TS]

01:01:23   yeah you know at least in my own very [TS]

01:01:24   limited experience with personal [TS]

01:01:26   training like I found it [TS]

01:01:27   shockingly effective in many ways that I [TS]

01:01:31   wouldn't have expected because of that [TS]

01:01:32   same phenomenon that when you're with [TS]

01:01:34   somebody else they can push you much [TS]

01:01:36   harder than you would naturally push [TS]

01:01:38   yourself because there is that pressure [TS]

01:01:39   of like well I don't want to look like a [TS]

01:01:41   wimp [TS]

01:01:41   so yeah I'm very happy breeding why you [TS]

01:01:43   got any limited experience with personal [TS]

01:01:45   training why don't you use a personal [TS]

01:01:46   trainer all the time [TS]

01:01:47   ok this is going to be a very gray [TS]

01:01:50   answer probably but I did personal [TS]

01:01:51   training for about six weeks before this [TS]

01:01:55   summer when I was going to do a bunch of [TS]

01:01:57   traveling i was doing it basically [TS]

01:01:59   because i was getting to the point where [TS]

01:02:00   I was concerned that i could injure [TS]

01:02:02   myself with the weights that I was [TS]

01:02:04   lifting and so I wanted to work with [TS]

01:02:06   someone to make sure that i was doing it [TS]

01:02:08   not in a dumb way [TS]

01:02:10   I couldn't just be doing it on my own [TS]

01:02:11   anymore at that point so I was kind of [TS]

01:02:14   intending to work with someone just for [TS]

01:02:16   a limited period of time to make sure [TS]

01:02:17   that i was doing things right but more [TS]

01:02:20   than that i found it absolutely mentally [TS]

01:02:25   exhausting to have like a three days a [TS]

01:02:27   week kind of hour-long meeting with [TS]

01:02:31   another person early in the morning [TS]

01:02:34   this does not work for me like my ideal [TS]

01:02:36   morning is I get up and I don't talk to [TS]

01:02:39   anyone until I've done all of my work [TS]

01:02:42   and exercise and now it's like 12 or one [TS]

01:02:45   in the afternoon [TS]

01:02:47   that's my apps the ideal morning and so [TS]

01:02:49   to have like a morning meeting with [TS]

01:02:51   someone all the time I just found it [TS]

01:02:53   really mentally draining and I was also [TS]

01:02:54   aware that it and actually did have like [TS]

01:02:57   an impact on my work being aware that [TS]

01:02:59   like a line i have to be at the gym at [TS]

01:03:01   this exact time [TS]

01:03:02   yes I find that like this lie that [TS]

01:03:05   people say which is that they're always [TS]

01:03:06   like oh when you exercise it doesn't [TS]

01:03:08   take that much time and add so much time [TS]

01:03:10   to your life and like I have never found [TS]

01:03:12   that to be the case like exercise does [TS]

01:03:15   take a lot of time and I think it's [TS]

01:03:17   better if you just mentally except that [TS]

01:03:20   like this is going to take a big chunk [TS]

01:03:21   out of your day [TS]

01:03:22   yeah it's worth it yeah but it's just [TS]

01:03:25   like accept the fact is going to take a [TS]

01:03:26   big chunk out of your day yeah but I [TS]

01:03:28   found that by having the regular meeting [TS]

01:03:30   with the trainer it was impacting it [TS]

01:03:32   even more like he was taking more of a [TS]

01:03:35   chunk and then I just find it exhausting [TS]

01:03:37   to try to talk to someone at ten-thirty [TS]

01:03:38   in the morning and especially like [TS]

01:03:40   constant small chitchat like I find that [TS]

01:03:43   the most draining thing ever so I did it [TS]

01:03:45   for a limited run i might do it again in [TS]

01:03:47   the future for limited runs but i think [TS]

01:03:49   i would probably rather kill myself then [TS]

01:03:52   do indefinite ongoing personal training [TS]

01:03:54   I couldn't possibly deal with that but [TS]

01:03:56   it does bring me to the other thing i [TS]

01:03:57   want to talk about about going to the [TS]

01:03:59   gym [TS]

01:03:59   mmm i'd start imagine you do this [TS]

01:04:01   actually because even I find it socially [TS]

01:04:03   awkward [TS]

01:04:03   mmm the changing rooms do you go to gym [TS]

01:04:06   changing rooms [TS]

01:04:07   yeah where are you going with this [TS]

01:04:09   what's awkward in the changing room just [TS]

01:04:12   some people are more have more of an [TS]

01:04:14   exhibitionist rate than others and I [TS]

01:04:17   sometimes find I don't really know what [TS]

01:04:19   to do with myself [TS]

01:04:20   what you do is you keep eyes above waist [TS]

01:04:22   level break [TS]

01:04:22   right that's rule number one yeah can I [TS]

01:04:25   zup right guys up if either up all the [TS]

01:04:28   problems are solved I don't see what the [TS]

01:04:30   issue is you're comfortable with that [TS]

01:04:31   you're quite comfortable with all these [TS]

01:04:33   new people around you and your nuding up [TS]

01:04:35   yourself [TS]

01:04:37   yes its relatives needing it up together [TS]

01:04:39   in the chanting group I just thought [TS]

01:04:41   you're the last person in the world that [TS]

01:04:42   would be comfortable with that I mean [TS]

01:04:44   I'm totally fine with the changing rooms [TS]

01:04:45   because it's against it's like the the [TS]

01:04:47   social rules in this environment we're [TS]

01:04:49   all here at the gym together we're all [TS]

01:04:51   using shared facilities [TS]

01:04:53   this is just the way it is i don't see [TS]

01:04:56   what there is to be uncomfortable about [TS]

01:04:58   this is just like this is just a [TS]

01:05:00   changing room we segregated by gender [TS]

01:05:01   right for social politeness reasons and [TS]

01:05:04   here we are we're in the changing room [TS]

01:05:05   i'm actually surprised that you're not [TS]

01:05:07   the guy who's chatting people up and in [TS]

01:05:09   the change room I figured you'd be your [TS]

01:05:11   normal chatty self and in the changing [TS]

01:05:12   room but it feels like maybe not you're [TS]

01:05:14   the guy looking down in Paris all the [TS]

01:05:16   time [TS]

01:05:16   I'm surprised by this I would say im [TS]

01:05:19   looking down embarrassed overtime huh [TS]

01:05:21   are more just shocked that you're cool [TS]

01:05:23   with it [TS]

01:05:24   I don't know it just seems like these [TS]

01:05:25   are the rules here now that what else [TS]

01:05:26   are we gonna do we all have to use the [TS]

01:05:28   showers [TS]

01:05:28   we all have to change our clothes as [TS]

01:05:31   long as you follow the rule [TS]

01:05:32   eyes up ok i just shaved you would be [TS]

01:05:34   someone who would like just go home [TS]

01:05:36   sweaty and get changed at home or build [TS]

01:05:38   some kind of tau tent like a portable [TS]

01:05:40   tends the Affordable tends to bring with [TS]

01:05:42   me like you don't even that people say [TS]

01:05:46   your face [TS]

01:05:46   this is a totally different context [TS]

01:05:48   you're mixing contacts here buddy [TS]

01:05:50   one is not applicable to the other [TS]

01:05:52   enough I locker romantic enough locker [TS]

01:05:58   room banter but i'm very happy for you [TS]

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01:06:44   world and yes it is actually a book that [TS]

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01:06:51   the ability of transatlantic voyage is [TS]

01:06:53   because of how easy it was to store and [TS]

01:06:55   how long it lasted and then onward to [TS]

01:06:58   its effect on the famous triangle trade [TS]

01:07:01   routes like it's very interesting to [TS]

01:07:04   listen to but I am absolutely sure that [TS]

01:07:07   if I ever had to sit down and say I'm [TS]

01:07:10   going to read a book about cod that [TS]

01:07:12   would never happen but this is why I [TS]

01:07:14   like audiobooks and why I like audible i [TS]

01:07:17   can pick a book on a topic like this and [TS]

01:07:19   when I'm walking to and from the office [TS]

01:07:22   when i'm just doing errands and [TS]

01:07:24   particularly around the holiday season [TS]

01:07:26   there are very many errands to run [TS]

01:07:28   I can just listen to a book about a [TS]

01:07:32   topic and be informed and i really like [TS]

01:07:36   it i listen to a ton of nonfiction [TS]

01:07:38   audiobooks of this kind and i'm [TS]

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01:07:45   podcast right now you're the kind of [TS]

01:07:47   person who would also enjoy listening to [TS]

01:07:49   audiobooks and you should really give [TS]

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01:07:55   catalog there is always going to be [TS]

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01:08:19   when you're doing some errands when [TS]

01:08:20   you're walking around when you're [TS]

01:08:22   commuting audiobooks really add a lot to [TS]

01:08:24   my quality of life and I think they will [TS]

01:08:26   to yours as well [TS]

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01:08:40   the show and for making my walking [TS]

01:08:43   around time much more informative and [TS]

01:08:45   interesting you know we have the [TS]

01:08:47   elements here [TS]

01:08:48   no I love the elements and I feel like [TS]

01:08:50   you have a soft spot for the periodic [TS]

01:08:51   table 2 of course those four new [TS]

01:08:53   elements medium / Moscow the m10 asain [TS]

01:08:58   and organ ehsan have now gone through [TS]

01:09:01   the consultation process they've been [TS]

01:09:03   signed and sealed and stamped and [TS]

01:09:05   authorized and they're now on the [TS]

01:09:07   periodic table for all time I thought we [TS]

01:09:09   should mark that no yeah no I matter [TS]

01:09:11   with bit of an experiment as you know [TS]

01:09:12   I've made videos about every single [TS]

01:09:14   element of the period video so obviously [TS]

01:09:16   we had for new videos to make now these [TS]

01:09:18   elements are official just so that the [TS]

01:09:20   collection is intact of course so we [TS]

01:09:22   made the four new ones the other day and [TS]

01:09:25   tell me what you think of this because [TS]

01:09:27   all four were approved and authorized or [TS]

01:09:29   once they kind of did them as a batch [TS]

01:09:31   through the process I decided for fun [TS]

01:09:34   more than anything to release all 4 [TS]

01:09:36   videos at once simultaneously [TS]

01:09:38   ok so you did four separate videos [TS]

01:09:40   launched at the same time for separate [TS]

01:09:43   videos and put them all out at exact [TS]

01:09:44   same time so one o'clock yesterday or [TS]

01:09:47   the day before bank press the button for [TS]

01:09:50   new videos from period videos all at [TS]

01:09:52   once treating each one individually like [TS]

01:09:54   standalone so they can see on the [TS]

01:09:56   website alone that stuff do you think [TS]

01:09:58   that was a good idea do you think that [TS]

01:10:00   was a terrible idea what do you think [TS]

01:10:02   about that I presume that you're asking [TS]

01:10:05   from the perspective of maximizing views [TS]

01:10:08   is that what you're thinking that is one [TS]

01:10:10   of the factors obviously is not a good [TS]

01:10:12   idea for maximizing views i was aware of [TS]

01:10:14   that like that was a sacrifice who they [TS]

01:10:17   were pros and cons to doing it and I'm [TS]

01:10:19   wondering if you think it was a stupid [TS]

01:10:21   thing to have done or it appeals to your [TS]

01:10:23   brain or you think i was big silly if I [TS]

01:10:26   was running periodic videos i think i [TS]

01:10:29   would not have release them all at once [TS]

01:10:31   I don't think it's terribly silly thing [TS]

01:10:34   to do but it just seems like so much of [TS]

01:10:39   our careers is dependent on the YouTube [TS]

01:10:42   algorithm and what the YouTube algorithm [TS]

01:10:45   wants to promote and wants to show [TS]

01:10:47   people and I can't imagine that [TS]

01:10:50   releasing for videos at once is the kind [TS]

01:10:53   of thing that the people who are [TS]

01:10:56   designing that algorithm would expect to [TS]

01:10:58   channel to do and so with this factor [TS]

01:11:00   incorrectly to how it [TS]

01:11:01   would be handled so I don't know what [TS]

01:11:04   your view numbers were like on those [TS]

01:11:05   videos at all but my feeling is if I had [TS]

01:11:09   multiple videos to release I wouldn't [TS]

01:11:12   release them all simultaneously now [TS]

01:11:14   every once in a while I have released [TS]

01:11:16   multiple videos on a single day usually [TS]

01:11:19   where i have a video and then there's [TS]

01:11:21   like a little footnote that I want to [TS]

01:11:22   include with the video that's not a main [TS]

01:11:24   thing and if I do that I'll at very [TS]

01:11:27   least try to put a lot of time between [TS]

01:11:29   them so like one will go up in the [TS]

01:11:31   morning and then one will go up later in [TS]

01:11:32   the afternoon because I I just feel like [TS]

01:11:35   at the same time I'm not sure that the [TS]

01:11:38   algorithm would like that and we all [TS]

01:11:41   have to serve the algorithm Brady that's [TS]

01:11:43   my feeling on this I didn't feel that [TS]

01:11:44   way about this I didn't feel well [TS]

01:11:47   obviously I didn't feel I should be [TS]

01:11:48   serving the average because because I [TS]

01:11:49   dinner and I knew and you don't like it [TS]

01:11:51   but there are lots of factors that came [TS]

01:11:54   into it and everything you say there is [TS]

01:11:56   true but i guess i felt and also i am a [TS]

01:12:01   bit less behold and to view counts then [TS]

01:12:06   you are because of the way my business [TS]

01:12:09   were right the other that's very true [TS]

01:12:11   that's very true yeah a few interesting [TS]

01:12:13   things that I mean my biggest concern [TS]

01:12:15   was alienating people [TS]

01:12:17   hmm and people feeling club to like [TS]

01:12:19   because I don't even know how people get [TS]

01:12:21   their alerts anymore would they get four [TS]

01:12:24   emails with their subscription box or [TS]

01:12:27   list be full of my stuff and it would [TS]

01:12:28   piss them off because they like our God [TS]

01:12:30   for videos in a row from the same mob [TS]

01:12:32   you know unsubscribe so that was a [TS]

01:12:34   concern spreading them out though like [TS]

01:12:36   over the course of awake also felt like [TS]

01:12:39   a concern because the videos do have a [TS]

01:12:41   certain sameness to them on these [TS]

01:12:43   reasons [TS]

01:12:44   mhm so it could be like are you did this [TS]

01:12:46   last week are you did this the week [TS]

01:12:48   before and it will always give people [TS]

01:12:50   more time to unsubscribe like they go [TS]

01:12:52   like at once they forgive it once but [TS]

01:12:55   after four weeks in a row that be like [TS]

01:12:57   okay now you just taking the piss [TS]

01:12:58   I'm and subscribing prices they're [TS]

01:13:00   getting a plan movie in response to your [TS]

01:13:02   element uploads like I don't know your [TS]

01:13:04   comes another or ripping off the bandaid [TS]

01:13:05   human at least four videos out that have [TS]

01:13:07   got similar elements to them because [TS]

01:13:10   they're all super-heavy element [TS]

01:13:11   synthesized in similar ways right let's [TS]

01:13:13   get it all at once but I [TS]

01:13:15   also just like the idea of it being like [TS]

01:13:16   be of an event and bit of a surprise and [TS]

01:13:19   unexpected let people go wow when I woke [TS]

01:13:21   up this morning I never thought that [TS]

01:13:22   before new videos from this one channel [TS]

01:13:24   and my think for some people it was [TS]

01:13:26   better for like an event to whom I was [TS]

01:13:28   also related to see how the four would [TS]

01:13:29   compare on their views like it was a [TS]

01:13:31   nice test wasn't of four videos that are [TS]

01:13:34   all very similar which one would people [TS]

01:13:36   click on which element named appeal to [TS]

01:13:38   them one of them did a lot worse than [TS]

01:13:40   the others and I wonder if that was [TS]

01:13:41   algorithmic like whether or not for [TS]

01:13:43   videos is one too many and like one was [TS]

01:13:46   below some fold or not on some email or [TS]

01:13:48   something but I feel like my guess is [TS]

01:13:51   you're releasing them all at the same [TS]

01:13:53   time but youtube has some concept of the [TS]

01:13:55   upload time versus the release time [TS]

01:13:57   my guess would be like the first one and [TS]

01:13:59   the last one would do better than the [TS]

01:14:01   two in the middle [TS]

01:14:03   I don't really have any reason for that [TS]

01:14:04   but that's just kind of my god guess for [TS]

01:14:06   what I would expect no in terms of when [TS]

01:14:09   I actually uploaded them because [TS]

01:14:11   obviously couldn't upload them all the [TS]

01:14:12   same time the first 2i uploaded did the [TS]

01:14:15   best he the thirds done the worst i [TS]

01:14:18   knows who knows i haven't done the [TS]

01:14:20   analysis well enough I'm sure there's [TS]

01:14:21   something interesting in there somewhere [TS]

01:14:22   who and subscribers did dip it did hurt [TS]

01:14:25   subscribers at one point the professor [TS]

01:14:28   and the videos contact me so I think [TS]

01:14:30   subscribers have actually dropped in the [TS]

01:14:32   scheme of things I think it was still up [TS]

01:14:34   for the day net but it was it did but it [TS]

01:14:36   caused a visible did when you released [TS]

01:14:37   all of them people are like too much [TS]

01:14:38   periodic videos thank you very much but [TS]

01:14:41   in some ways I don't mind that because [TS]

01:14:43   if you're subscribing to a channel that [TS]

01:14:46   is made its name by making videos about [TS]

01:14:49   all the elements soon and then releasing [TS]

01:14:51   four-element videos in a day puts you [TS]

01:14:54   are truly then you're probably not the [TS]

01:14:56   best subscribers for us to have like [TS]

01:14:59   Facebook having like too many followers [TS]

01:15:01   that aren't true believers can dilute [TS]

01:15:04   you and hurt you algorithmically then [TS]

01:15:07   maybe sometimes it's good to get rid of [TS]

01:15:08   the chest yeah i mean that this gets to [TS]

01:15:10   you know the thing about we just have no [TS]

01:15:13   real idea how YouTube is handling these [TS]

01:15:15   things behind the scenes and talking [TS]

01:15:17   about the subscriber numbers i mean that [TS]

01:15:19   we've mentioned it here many times when [TS]

01:15:21   YouTube red conversations come up with [TS]

01:15:23   other things but I just personally don't [TS]

01:15:26   really put a lot of stock in that [TS]

01:15:28   subscribe [TS]

01:15:28   number anymore like I'm not even really [TS]

01:15:30   sure what it means now especially with [TS]

01:15:32   this change that YouTube has made where [TS]

01:15:35   there's a way essentially now where you [TS]

01:15:37   have to double subscribe or like you can [TS]

01:15:39   subscribe to the channel but then you're [TS]

01:15:41   also supposed to press the little dell [TS]

01:15:43   next to the subscribe button which says [TS]

01:15:45   that you actually want to get [TS]

01:15:47   notifications about when this channel [TS]

01:15:49   puts out new videos [TS]

01:15:50   it's an interesting thing that youtube [TS]

01:15:52   is still kind of built around this idea [TS]

01:15:54   of rewarding people for subscribers [TS]

01:15:57   obviously like with all of the silver [TS]

01:15:59   play button that you have littered [TS]

01:16:01   around your house they built around this [TS]

01:16:03   idea but algorithmically I think the [TS]

01:16:06   evidence just keeps piling up that the [TS]

01:16:08   subscriber things don't matter so great [TS]

01:16:10   when you put out for videos this is the [TS]

01:16:12   kind of data youtube don't give us but I [TS]

01:16:14   would just love to know how did youtube [TS]

01:16:16   handle telling your audience that these [TS]

01:16:19   four videos exist [TS]

01:16:22   it doesn't make any sense when you have [TS]

01:16:23   these subscriber numbers and then you [TS]

01:16:26   look at video view numbers and they're [TS]

01:16:28   just all over the place [TS]

01:16:29   yeah so without cheating or looking at [TS]

01:16:32   your screen great shut your eyes your [TS]

01:16:34   shot my eyes are shut [TS]

01:16:36   I told you those four new element names [TS]

01:16:38   how many of them do you remember how [TS]

01:16:39   tense scene I'll goodness on the podium [TS]

01:16:45   I failed i'm sorry i'm sorry i cannot [TS]

01:16:49   get the last one it was Moscow via Wow [TS]

01:16:52   let's go rio and it's not in the pyonium [TS]

01:16:55   it's not honey and with an h was behind [TS]

01:16:57   on and nihon can be worse for japan i [TS]

01:17:00   think and I've gone not onium who I'm [TS]

01:17:02   gonna count that I think that's close [TS]

01:17:04   enough [TS]

01:17:04   alright yeah you think I get that on [TS]

01:17:07   Jeopardy definitely not as the podium I [TS]

01:17:09   think they give that to me [TS]

01:17:10   they definitely would not 100-percent [TS]

01:17:12   speaking of YouTube stuff we discussed [TS]

01:17:16   these new ad formats or at least new to [TS]

01:17:19   us ad formats that were popping up which [TS]

01:17:21   is the sponsored item ads i was looking [TS]

01:17:24   at a video that was describing how to [TS]

01:17:26   build a secret cabinet in your house and [TS]

01:17:29   underneath the youtube video were a [TS]

01:17:32   bunch of ugly ads about how to buy a [TS]

01:17:35   secret cabinet on youtube instead it's [TS]

01:17:37   like when you buy a new car and suddenly [TS]

01:17:39   you look around the world [TS]

01:17:41   and it seems like this car is absolutely [TS]

01:17:42   everywhere I don't know if it's just [TS]

01:17:44   like I just tuned into this thing and [TS]

01:17:47   now i see it absolutely everywhere but i [TS]

01:17:49   have now seen these ads on my own videos [TS]

01:17:54   where YouTube is trying to guess a [TS]

01:17:58   product that is related to my videos and [TS]

01:18:02   have a huge amount of space underneath [TS]

01:18:05   the video directly related to trying to [TS]

01:18:08   sell people that physical item my [TS]

01:18:11   favorite example of this is my video on [TS]

01:18:14   the rules for rulers which is constantly [TS]

01:18:18   trying to sell people rulers right [TS]

01:18:21   actual rulers you would use to measure [TS]

01:18:24   the length of objects if you go watch [TS]

01:18:26   that video underneath it it's trying to [TS]

01:18:29   sell you rulers for like ninety-nine [TS]

01:18:32   cents fifty cents to buy a cheapo [TS]

01:18:34   plastic ruler we've discussed before [TS]

01:18:37   that YouTube has this it doesn't look [TS]

01:18:40   like the prettiest websites but I've got [TS]

01:18:43   to say like to load up my video and to [TS]

01:18:45   see a bunch of junky plastic rulers for [TS]

01:18:50   sale below the video directly while the [TS]

01:18:54   video plays and it also has a little [TS]

01:18:57   pop-up that occurs part of the way [TS]

01:18:59   through the video on the top of the [TS]

01:19:00   screen that says click here to open up [TS]

01:19:02   the slide over to buy some rulers it's [TS]

01:19:05   how awful like it's just an awful ugly [TS]

01:19:09   ad format i was looking through the [TS]

01:19:11   YouTube analytics data and again it's [TS]

01:19:15   always a little bit unclear precisely [TS]

01:19:16   what we can tell the audience but you [TS]

01:19:19   can see how much the different types of [TS]

01:19:21   ads will learn for your channel and [TS]

01:19:24   those pre-roll videos right they pay the [TS]

01:19:26   most other different kinds of ads pay [TS]

01:19:28   the least and I can't even find where [TS]

01:19:32   these paid object ads are supposed to [TS]

01:19:35   exist so I've been seriously considering [TS]

01:19:38   going through my videos and trying to [TS]

01:19:40   make sure to disable this kind of AD [TS]

01:19:42   across all of my videos because i think [TS]

01:19:44   that the shear ugliness of it is just [TS]

01:19:48   not worth it like it just crosses a real [TS]

01:19:51   line for me of how hideous these things [TS]

01:19:53   are [TS]

01:19:54   and if they're not even earning any [TS]

01:19:56   money i would rather just not have my [TS]

01:19:58   own audience see them and be just [TS]

01:20:01   distracted by the hideousness of them [TS]

01:20:03   what are they Kodaka maybe some of my [TS]

01:20:05   channels on and i put for them just [TS]

01:20:07   looking at one of my channels i can't [TS]

01:20:08   even see what the code to disable them [TS]

01:20:10   so maybe I don't get them in the youtube [TS]

01:20:11   back-end they're called sponsored card [TS]

01:20:15   ok this is the ad type that exists but i [TS]

01:20:19   think is really devious about this is [TS]

01:20:21   the sponsored card description seems to [TS]

01:20:23   be that is just going to be an ad on the [TS]

01:20:25   side but as best I can tell that [TS]

01:20:27   sponsored card means that a youtube [TS]

01:20:30   video will have that little slide over [TS]

01:20:33   come out from the top like you put in a [TS]

01:20:35   card except the person can click it to [TS]

01:20:38   buy a thing and also below the video it [TS]

01:20:42   will display these big images to buy [TS]

01:20:44   whatever on ebay thats related to the [TS]

01:20:47   actual video itself that's certainly not [TS]

01:20:49   clear from that night because I didn't [TS]

01:20:51   even know that's what that was [TS]

01:20:52   it's not clear from that name at all and [TS]

01:20:53   here's the thing that I am wondering [TS]

01:20:56   youtube is doing this move where they're [TS]

01:20:59   clearly no longer interested in [TS]

01:21:02   annotations so it used to be on YouTube [TS]

01:21:05   that you could draw a little box on the [TS]

01:21:07   screen and people could click on that [TS]

01:21:09   box and it would take them to another [TS]

01:21:10   video or another website and we've [TS]

01:21:13   complained mightily before about how [TS]

01:21:15   annotations are really difficult to [TS]

01:21:17   actually draw correctly on the screen [TS]

01:21:19   the interface for them is pretty [TS]

01:21:20   terrible but the advantage that they [TS]

01:21:22   have is that the annotation [TS]

01:21:24   click-through is really high like in my [TS]

01:21:26   videos if I put a little box on the [TS]

01:21:27   screen and I say something like click [TS]

01:21:29   here or even if I don't people know to [TS]

01:21:32   click those boxes to go see another [TS]

01:21:34   video or to go see another thing because [TS]

01:21:37   you've got control over what's in the [TS]

01:21:38   box that can be something visually [TS]

01:21:40   interesting or relevant or right that's [TS]

01:21:42   exactly right you can put an image on [TS]

01:21:44   the screen or you can just say click on [TS]

01:21:45   my face and draw a box around your face [TS]

01:21:47   and YouTube has introduced these cards [TS]

01:21:50   which when they first came out I know we [TS]

01:21:52   discussed it but these cards which are [TS]

01:21:54   just a little slide over that appears on [TS]

01:21:56   the top while they work on desktop and [TS]

01:21:58   mobile at least in my own experimenting [TS]

01:22:01   they have horrific click-through rates [TS]

01:22:04   like eight [TS]

01:22:06   and the number of click-throughs as [TS]

01:22:08   compared to an annotation that's a real [TS]

01:22:10   shine to great because to be totally [TS]

01:22:12   honest they're much nicer that classy [TS]

01:22:14   they're quite elegant they work well [TS]

01:22:17   like I actually visually like the more [TS]

01:22:20   like white people to me but i just-i [TS]

01:22:22   work [TS]

01:22:23   yeah the the annotations can look kind [TS]

01:22:25   of junky partly because it's hard to [TS]

01:22:27   draw them partly because the colors are [TS]

01:22:28   really great [TS]

01:22:30   the thing that I don't like about cards [TS]

01:22:32   is how they're a little bit of an [TS]

01:22:33   interruption in the video because their [TS]

01:22:35   motion because they slide out i think [TS]

01:22:37   they're a little bit visually [TS]

01:22:38   distracting but i'll agree with you that [TS]

01:22:40   overall the cards are a wind in the [TS]

01:22:44   looks department right but i find myself [TS]

01:22:48   even though youtube is increasingly [TS]

01:22:50   trying to push us away from annotations [TS]

01:22:52   and if you go to add an annotation now [TS]

01:22:54   they kind of make you choose between [TS]

01:22:57   annotations and other features like [TS]

01:22:59   they're obviously they don't want you to [TS]

01:23:00   use them but i find like I still want to [TS]

01:23:02   use annotations because they're so [TS]

01:23:04   incredibly effective and their doubly [TS]

01:23:07   effective when you consider that half of [TS]

01:23:08   the audience is usually watching on a [TS]

01:23:10   mobile device where the annotations [TS]

01:23:12   don't even work [TS]

01:23:13   they don't even show up whereas card [TS]

01:23:15   show up on both but thinking about these [TS]

01:23:17   sponsored cards what I'm wondering is is [TS]

01:23:21   if one of the reasons that the [TS]

01:23:23   click-through rates on these cards are [TS]

01:23:25   so low is because some percentage of [TS]

01:23:29   them are just adds and so the people [TS]

01:23:32   watching YouTube respond to them less [TS]

01:23:35   because whatever it is maybe one out of [TS]

01:23:38   20 or one out of 30 times when the thing [TS]

01:23:40   pops up on the screen [TS]

01:23:42   it's not a message from the creator of [TS]

01:23:44   this video its why don't you buy a [TS]

01:23:47   plastic ruler right now I'm just [TS]

01:23:49   wondering if this is the reason why [TS]

01:23:51   cards have such horrific click-through [TS]

01:23:54   rates as compared to annotations because [TS]

01:23:56   sometimes their ads people have been [TS]

01:23:57   conditioned to treat them as noise and [TS]

01:23:59   not a message from someone I trust [TS]

01:24:01   yeah that is precisely what i'm [TS]

01:24:02   wondering if this is like the conflicted [TS]

01:24:04   message because as soon as I realized [TS]

01:24:06   this I feel like boy I wasn't a big fan [TS]

01:24:08   of cards in the beginning and unless of [TS]

01:24:11   a fan of cards now that i know that the [TS]

01:24:14   message can be mixed for the actual [TS]

01:24:16   viewer I've just click through to [TS]

01:24:18   YouTube's explanation [TS]

01:24:19   enough what all the different types of [TS]

01:24:21   ads are because we can't tell us from [TS]

01:24:22   their name what we're saying is allowed [TS]

01:24:24   or not allowed no videos who i scroll [TS]

01:24:26   down to sponsored cards and from their [TS]

01:24:29   description sponsored cards are what i [TS]

01:24:31   would have thought they are they just [TS]

01:24:33   little messages up the top with a little [TS]

01:24:35   I symbol is quite tucked out of the way [TS]

01:24:37   hm there's nothing in the official [TS]

01:24:39   description of what sponsored cards are [TS]

01:24:41   that says anything about big chunky ads [TS]

01:24:44   displayed under your videos like on [TS]

01:24:46   permanent display trashing up the screen [TS]

01:24:48   so either that's being sneaky sneaky and [TS]

01:24:53   they have included a who or it's not [TS]

01:24:55   part of the sponsored card description [TS]

01:24:57   and it's just something that we have no [TS]

01:24:59   power over it just goes on whether you [TS]

01:25:00   want to or not i agree with you right [TS]

01:25:02   when I looked into this and I was trying [TS]

01:25:03   to figure out why are these ugly ruler [TS]

01:25:05   ads below my video they i might be wrong [TS]

01:25:09   about this but this is the best that I [TS]

01:25:11   could track it down and in doing a [TS]

01:25:13   couple tests of flipping the switch just [TS]

01:25:15   temporarily to see it looked like [TS]

01:25:18   flipping the sponsored card thing was [TS]

01:25:19   the one that would change the junkie ads [TS]

01:25:21   at the bottom it does have this feeling [TS]

01:25:23   of again that YouTube does these things [TS]

01:25:25   and the messaging is just never clear [TS]

01:25:27   like where are these ads exactly if [TS]

01:25:30   you're looking at YouTube's official [TS]

01:25:32   documents it doesn't seem like these are [TS]

01:25:34   anywhere but they're clearly somewhere [TS]

01:25:37   in the system [TS]

01:25:38   youtube sure has a lot of different ad [TS]

01:25:41   formats and it doesn't contribute to the [TS]

01:25:44   overall niceness and nice-looking this [TS]

01:25:47   of the platform puts a few dollars in [TS]

01:25:49   your pocket I cgpgrey I mean maybe it's [TS]

01:25:53   just suspicious to me because just like [TS]

01:25:55   you say these ads don't seem to show up [TS]

01:25:58   anywhere on the official documents about [TS]

01:26:00   what kind of adds there are when I look [TS]

01:26:02   through the analytics there is nothing [TS]

01:26:05   in there that to me looks like here is [TS]

01:26:07   the address minus that you got when [TS]

01:26:10   somebody bought a ruler through your [TS]

01:26:12   video and stuff like what are these [TS]

01:26:15   things like what are these ugly things [TS]

01:26:18   where is this money going what's [TS]

01:26:20   occurring like it's not clear at all [TS]

01:26:22   there's no clear message from YouTube [TS]

01:26:24   about what these things are [TS]

01:26:25   it's just a bad viewer experience and in [TS]

01:26:27   the same way that like I always hate [TS]

01:26:29   those little overlay ads that pop up on [TS]

01:26:31   the bottom third [TS]

01:26:32   I find them just so distracting from a [TS]

01:26:34   video and that's part of the reason why [TS]

01:26:36   i like I disable them on my videos and I [TS]

01:26:38   think like these sponsored cards are [TS]

01:26:40   like the same kind of thing again [TS]

01:26:42   it diminishes the video that it's on in [TS]

01:26:45   a way that i personally don't feel [TS]

01:26:47   pre-roll ads or display ads on the side [TS]

01:26:52   do those feel like they're apart from [TS]

01:26:54   the video but this feels like it's just [TS]

01:26:56   too much in the video itself can't [TS]

01:26:59   disagree with you go and you're right if [TS]

01:27:01   it turns out that the money from those [TS]

01:27:02   junky ones underneath aren't going to [TS]

01:27:05   the creator's then that's going to be an [TS]

01:27:07   interesting little tale to tell later [TS]

01:27:09   like it's going to be interesting to see [TS]

01:27:10   how some people would react to that I've [TS]

01:27:12   actually never seen one of my videos so [TS]

01:27:14   i don't know much about them but maybe [TS]

01:27:16   there's something dodgy going on [TS]

01:27:17   yeah I personally suspect it's just that [TS]

01:27:18   the revenue was so small that it's not [TS]

01:27:20   really showing up on the analytics but [TS]

01:27:22   who knows [TS]

01:27:23   and again it's just that the message is [TS]

01:27:24   always that it is unclear from the [TS]

01:27:26   perspective of what is YouTube up to [TS]

01:27:28   what is usually about two that could be [TS]

01:27:30   on your gravestone perhaps you and I [TS]

01:27:32   cgpgrey what was YouTube up to [TS]

01:27:34   he never knew he never knew no matter [TS]

01:27:37   how much you look at the end of it okay [TS]

01:27:39   can I just say gray like people always [TS]

01:27:44   ask us to watch different TV shows and [TS]

01:27:47   movies and lose yet about them and we're [TS]

01:27:49   always open to this and the one that a [TS]

01:27:51   lot of people are asking about at the [TS]

01:27:53   moment is the TV show [TS]

01:27:54   westworld mm have you had a look at it [TS]

01:27:57   by the way when no spoilers coming by [TS]

01:27:59   the way people were not about to review [TS]

01:28:00   or anything we just saw some graph he's [TS]

01:28:02   watched westworld i have not watched it [TS]

01:28:04   i have seen 10,000 requests for me to [TS]

01:28:10   watch westworld i did as a child watch [TS]

01:28:12   the original movie or TV series that [TS]

01:28:16   it's based on a book based on a book i [TS]

01:28:18   think that it was a movie okay i don't [TS]

01:28:20   remember very much about it except the [TS]

01:28:22   broadest over line but i know i saw the [TS]

01:28:24   original as a child but no I have not [TS]

01:28:27   actually watch westworld have you I have [TS]

01:28:30   watched maybe the first four episodes [TS]

01:28:34   who and I'm not going to review our [TS]

01:28:37   spoiler except to say I've stopped with [TS]

01:28:40   better if it is set as homework for [TS]

01:28:43   whatever reason [TS]

01:28:44   I guess I would do it because you know [TS]

01:28:47   we do that for the tims but I certainly [TS]

01:28:50   couldn't in good faith ask you to watch [TS]

01:28:52   it [TS]

01:28:52   hmm interesting you may love it but some [TS]

01:28:55   people certainly had a loving the hell [TS]

01:28:57   out of it and everyone thinks you love [TS]

01:28:59   it and things i will ever [TS]

01:29:00   that's certainly for whatever reason was [TS]

01:29:02   not the case so far maybe it gets better [TS]

01:29:04   maybe I was in a bad mood maybe you just [TS]

01:29:05   don't like it very much [TS]

01:29:07   hmm but i stopped so i'm not inclined to [TS]

01:29:09   do it at the moon so I'll maybe I'll [TS]

01:29:12   leave that bowl in your core sort of [TS]

01:29:14   floating there for discussion another [TS]

01:29:16   day but we are saying all the west-world [TS]

01:29:18   request kind of maybe stopped because [TS]

01:29:20   i'm getting lots of emails about that [TS]

01:29:22   it's not like we haven't seen it so you [TS]

01:29:25   don't have to like tell us because we [TS]

01:29:27   don't know about the show if I hadn't [TS]

01:29:29   left the show but so if you're about to [TS]

01:29:31   send me an e-mail recommending it like [TS]

01:29:32   you're still welcome to do that but you [TS]

01:29:34   don't need to do right i am aware of the [TS]

01:29:36   show [TS]

01:29:36   yeah I feel like the volume of feedback [TS]

01:29:40   on this has been so incredibly large [TS]

01:29:42   that we do want to just touch upon it [TS]

01:29:45   like we have heard we are aware i [TS]

01:29:48   suspect i will probably watch it at some [TS]

01:29:50   point and then maybe we'll discuss it [TS]

01:29:53   based on on if there's something [TS]

01:29:54   interesting to talk about their but yes [TS]

01:29:57   II don't need to keep tweeting and Brady [TS]

01:29:59   and I that we need to watch westworld [TS]

01:30:02   because we are very over aware of the [TS]

01:30:04   existence of this although again i have [TS]

01:30:07   to say our audience is the best audience [TS]

01:30:10   because they know what to do [TS]

01:30:12   people are just recommending the show [TS]

01:30:14   and they're not saying anything and and [TS]

01:30:16   that's perfect and I always just want to [TS]

01:30:18   say like I appreciate that from [TS]

01:30:19   everybody [TS]

01:30:20   you're doing it the right way maybe [TS]

01:30:22   we'll touch on it maybe we won't but [TS]

01:30:23   we've certainly heard about it but I by [TS]

01:30:26   the way i watch that final episode [TS]

01:30:27   no spoilers again but I watched that [TS]

01:30:29   episode of black mirror that I hadn't [TS]

01:30:31   watched the fifth one and I'm glad I did [TS]

01:30:34   better than I expected so okay if you [TS]

01:30:37   didn't watch that one because we didn't [TS]

01:30:39   talk about much last time with watch you [TS]

01:30:41   sort of said you said it was the worst [TS]

01:30:43   and maybe arrived at that I don't know [TS]

01:30:45   but still the worst of black mare is [TS]

01:30:47   still pretty good and I liked the [TS]

01:30:48   episode [TS]

01:30:49   good I'm glad you completed after season [TS]

01:30:51   they're ready by the way [TS]

01:30:53   when we talked about the name of the [TS]

01:30:55   show black mirror and I said I thought [TS]

01:30:58   it was because the TV show holds like a [TS]

01:31:02   mirror up to society and reflects back [TS]

01:31:04   what we're like to us but with this [TS]

01:31:05   black tinge to me that seems obvious [TS]

01:31:07   that's what it was and then you came up [TS]

01:31:10   with some lame-o reason that you thought [TS]

01:31:12   it was old like mirror which is [TS]

01:31:14   basically along the lines of will help [TS]

01:31:16   these little rectangular mirror like [TS]

01:31:19   devices which aligns right and I [TS]

01:31:21   secretly thought to myself great doesn't [TS]

01:31:23   it was told that my explanation makes [TS]

01:31:24   way more sense [TS]

01:31:26   clearly I'm rot and landmines really [TS]

01:31:28   cool reason and i told my wife issue why [TS]

01:31:31   do you think it's called black mirror [TS]

01:31:32   she totally great with me my way down to [TS]

01:31:34   wikipedia and i was reading a quote from [TS]

01:31:36   charlie brooker who created black mirror [TS]

01:31:37   looking to the Guardian and he said [TS]

01:31:40   various things and then he said the [TS]

01:31:42   black mirror of the total is the one you [TS]

01:31:44   found on every wall on every desk in the [TS]

01:31:47   palm of every hand haha shiny screen of [TS]

01:31:50   a TV monitor a smart find a cantilever [TS]

01:31:54   you were right point2 gray my [TS]

01:31:56   explanation is way better than mine is [TS]

01:32:00   way writer do you think mine's better it [TS]

01:32:02   makes more sense [TS]

01:32:03   that's mine reflects what the show is [TS]

01:32:05   calling up like marriages because we [TS]

01:32:06   have smartphones that a black black [TS]

01:32:09   bears about all sorts of things it [TS]

01:32:10   doesn't even involve phones but it's [TS]

01:32:12   always holding a mirror up to a society [TS]

01:32:14   with a dark angle and cast to it [TS]

01:32:17   cantilever here's the thing i think [TS]

01:32:19   we're both right Brady in that the phone [TS]

01:32:22   does contain a black mirror and I think [TS]

01:32:25   we can still interpret it in in this way [TS]

01:32:27   that technology is a black mirror that [TS]

01:32:29   reflects us back to ourselves so i think [TS]

01:32:31   we can both be right but I'm writer this [TS]

01:32:35   episode of elevation that is brought to [TS]

01:32:37   you in part by the one the only [TS]

01:32:40   Squarespace did you just have to say [TS]

01:32:42   Squarespace has been with us since the [TS]

01:32:45   very beginning of this show and they are [TS]

01:32:47   one of the sponsors that makes this show [TS]

01:32:50   and so many other podcast that I enjoy [TS]

01:32:52   happen if you're listening to podcasts [TS]

01:32:55   if you're thinking of making a website [TS]

01:32:57   you should go with the sponsor that [TS]

01:32:59   makes websites and makes podcast happen [TS]

01:33:01   and that is Squarespace they're the [TS]

01:33:04   perfect starting point for choosing a [TS]

01:33:06   domain or making a website or an online [TS]

01:33:08   store or anything that you want to do [TS]

01:33:10   with your digital presence online there [TS]

01:33:14   would i use for the very hello internet [TS]

01:33:16   website there would i use for cgpgrey [TS]

01:33:18   dot-com and whenever anybody asks me [TS]

01:33:21   about setting up a website [TS]

01:33:23   Squarespace is my default recommendation [TS]

01:33:26   why is it my default recommendation [TS]

01:33:27   because it's at the intersection of [TS]

01:33:30   easy-to-use and powerful and beautiful [TS]

01:33:33   looking and flexible if you just want to [TS]

01:33:36   put up a portfolio online just to [TS]

01:33:38   showcase your work just maybe a single [TS]

01:33:40   page showing off what you can do with a [TS]

01:33:42   contact form or something like that [TS]

01:33:43   that's really easy to do with [TS]

01:33:45   squarespace if you want to have a [TS]

01:33:47   complicated website with many different [TS]

01:33:49   pages that selling stuff that's [TS]

01:33:51   something that you can do if you are a [TS]

01:33:54   developer and you want to get into the [TS]

01:33:56   code and customize everything to be [TS]

01:33:59   exactly the way you want it to be [TS]

01:34:01   Squarespace can do that as well if you [TS]

01:34:03   never want to see a line of code for as [TS]

01:34:06   long as you live you never even have to [TS]

01:34:09   know that that's a possibility with [TS]

01:34:10   squarespace it's just fantastic all [TS]

01:34:14   around they have beautiful templates [TS]

01:34:16   created by world-class designers you can [TS]

01:34:19   customize the look and feel and settings [TS]

01:34:22   of your website it's optimized for [TS]

01:34:24   mobile right from the start so for [TS]

01:34:26   example my own webpages I never have to [TS]

01:34:28   think about doing a totally separate [TS]

01:34:30   design for how is it going to look on [TS]

01:34:32   the iphone Squarespace just handles that [TS]

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01:35:32   supporting the show okay Brady I have a [TS]

01:35:35   question for you that I feel like I [TS]

01:35:39   don't know what your answer is going to [TS]

01:35:40   be and as we have touched upon in the [TS]

01:35:44   show I sometimes have like a very [TS]

01:35:46   limited repertoire of conversation [TS]

01:35:50   starters with people when I have to [TS]

01:35:51   socialize like let's get into an [TS]

01:35:53   argument about free will like this is an [TS]

01:35:55   interesting thing to talk about and [TS]

01:35:56   people seem to always get riled up about [TS]

01:35:58   it i have a few of these that I tried to [TS]

01:36:00   keep in my back pocket but there's one [TS]

01:36:02   question that i've come across recently [TS]

01:36:05   that people seem to react to very often [TS]

01:36:09   in surprising ways that I'm kind of [TS]

01:36:11   adding to this list and the question is [TS]

01:36:14   what do you eat [TS]

01:36:17   synthetic meat like a cheeseburger that [TS]

01:36:22   was grown in a lab is that something [TS]

01:36:25   that you would feel comfortable eating [TS]

01:36:28   i'm asking this because I've been [TS]

01:36:31   vaguely following this is a technology [TS]

01:36:33   for a while but it seems like in the [TS]

01:36:35   past year [TS]

01:36:37   this is becoming a real thing that is [TS]

01:36:40   probably within the next five years [TS]

01:36:44   going to be relatively commercially [TS]

01:36:47   viable where there is lab-grown muscle [TS]

01:36:53   tissue [TS]

01:36:53   yeah that is meat and so there's there's [TS]

01:36:57   a few companies that are doing this and [TS]

01:36:59   i feel like i have a very poor sense of [TS]

01:37:03   how you're going to answer this question [TS]

01:37:04   well let me start by saying mmm yeah I [TS]

01:37:08   think I would [TS]

01:37:09   oh yeah that's probably it with saying I [TS]

01:37:13   know they're making this stuff and like [TS]

01:37:14   you know its size to sizzle that made [TS]

01:37:16   have blood because i live in a half [TS]

01:37:18   vegetarian household makes substitutes [TS]

01:37:22   already [TS]

01:37:23   mm I have [TS]

01:37:24   and so a lot of these things are already [TS]

01:37:27   donated kind of weird ways out there all [TS]

01:37:28   these corn products and things are made [TS]

01:37:30   in interesting ways i know the names [TS]

01:37:32   synthetic muscle tissue but who they're [TS]

01:37:34   already growing things to be meat like [TS]

01:37:36   and I some of them i don't like them as [TS]

01:37:38   much as make know they're never as good [TS]

01:37:40   now some of them surprise you though [TS]

01:37:42   occasionally I get surprised by how some [TS]

01:37:44   of them can work ok but synthetic may I [TS]

01:37:47   think it would it would just depend on [TS]

01:37:49   how good it was [TS]

01:37:50   I guess I haven't thought about any of [TS]

01:37:52   the dilemmas to it but I'm not too [TS]

01:37:55   weirded out by I'm fine farmer would you [TS]

01:37:58   later I feel like I'm not too surprised [TS]

01:38:01   by that as you were just talking about i [TS]

01:38:02   feel like you're a relatively [TS]

01:38:04   adventurous guy and so I feel like you'd [TS]

01:38:06   probably give almost anything a try and [TS]

01:38:07   then it is not surprising that it would [TS]

01:38:09   come down to does it taste good or does [TS]

01:38:11   it not taste good so I feel like I'm [TS]

01:38:13   sort of unsurprised by that but I have [TS]

01:38:16   definitely come across people who seem [TS]

01:38:19   like they find the idea terrifying or [TS]

01:38:22   repulsive but I have a hard time pinning [TS]

01:38:25   down why right and i think that this is [TS]

01:38:29   this is a often the case with new [TS]

01:38:31   technology stuff where people react [TS]

01:38:33   poorly because it's a thing that's new [TS]

01:38:35   or they can articulate their reasons as [TS]

01:38:37   to why I got offered a little bit when [TS]

01:38:39   you describe a synthetically growing [TS]

01:38:41   muscle tissue i prefer it when you call [TS]

01:38:43   the synthetic maker her x factor that [TS]

01:38:46   justjust for the marketing about that [TS]

01:38:49   yeah what are we doing for lab growing [TS]

01:38:52   carcasses that it's like no don't we [TS]

01:38:54   call it like synthetic muscle tissue it [TS]

01:38:56   suddenly seems more wrong with that [TS]

01:38:58   that's that's that's not supposed to [TS]

01:39:00   exist so trying to think of a better [TS]

01:39:03   name for it you know you meet ya [TS]

01:39:06   we need to call it like freedom burgers [TS]

01:39:08   or something right like that's the [TS]

01:39:09   modulator name is this has nothing to do [TS]

01:39:11   with what it is that makes a 5000 ok [TS]

01:39:14   that my feeling on this is ok so I'm [TS]

01:39:19   going to make it like a little bit of a [TS]

01:39:21   prediction here but but I think like [TS]

01:39:22   once this becomes commercially viable [TS]

01:39:25   because right now it is just [TS]

01:39:28   ridiculously expensive but like with any [TS]

01:39:30   of these things like with gene testing [TS]

01:39:32   technology like with anything that [TS]

01:39:34   prices dropping very rapid [TS]

01:39:36   and I think there's going to come some [TS]

01:39:38   point at which those lines cross of how [TS]

01:39:42   much does it cost to raise an actual cow [TS]

01:39:45   two full-grown adult hood and slaughter [TS]

01:39:48   it's right and ship the burgers versus [TS]

01:39:50   how much does it cost to grow synthetic [TS]

01:39:53   meat in a lab like I think those lines [TS]

01:39:55   are going to cross where synthetic meat [TS]

01:39:56   becomes cheaper and I bet that once that [TS]

01:40:00   happens the people who are having [TS]

01:40:02   negative reactions to this i think this [TS]

01:40:05   is going to become pretty standard [TS]

01:40:08   pretty fast [TS]

01:40:09   it's an interesting thing because ok [TS]

01:40:12   this is going to be like a totally [TS]

01:40:15   overblown metaphor practice what I want [TS]

01:40:17   to let people understand [TS]

01:40:19   oh right i know what kind of things [TS]

01:40:21   right I know you know I know that you [TS]

01:40:23   will like this right but I just before I [TS]

01:40:26   say the words I want people to [TS]

01:40:27   understand i'm aware that the thing that [TS]

01:40:30   I'm about to say is an overblown [TS]

01:40:32   metaphor but i think the synthetic meat [TS]

01:40:37   reminds me of slavery so i think this is [TS]

01:40:41   one of these things where if you go back [TS]

01:40:43   and you look at the historical records [TS]

01:40:45   people at the time like in the seventeen [TS]

01:40:48   hundreds like letters from the founding [TS]

01:40:49   fathers people knew that slavery was a [TS]

01:40:53   bad thing but it took a long time before [TS]

01:40:55   we actually got rid of it and my [TS]

01:40:59   personal theory on this is that a lot of [TS]

01:41:02   the reasons why various countries got [TS]

01:41:05   rid of slavery at the various times that [TS]

01:41:07   they did has much more to do with like [TS]

01:41:10   the economics of the time and the [TS]

01:41:13   available technology at the time then it [TS]

01:41:15   does to do with the idea that people [TS]

01:41:17   suddenly woke up and realized no slavery [TS]

01:41:20   what a terrible idea like this is an [TS]

01:41:22   awful thing to do to our fellow human [TS]

01:41:24   beings i got i think there's a kind of [TS]

01:41:26   technological economic change that [TS]

01:41:29   encourages those sorts of things to [TS]

01:41:31   happen at one time or another yet and I [TS]

01:41:34   think we're going to go through the [TS]

01:41:35   exact same thing with synthetic meat in [TS]

01:41:39   the next maybe 10 years or so that i [TS]

01:41:42   don't think there's anybody who really [TS]

01:41:43   argues for the way we currently produce [TS]

01:41:46   meat as like a great humane amazing [TS]

01:41:50   thing [TS]

01:41:50   to do but i think we consume so much [TS]

01:41:52   meat because of the economics of it and [TS]

01:41:55   because of how much people like the [TS]

01:41:56   taste of it but I think like as soon as [TS]

01:41:59   these lines cross and it makes economic [TS]

01:42:01   sense to be using synthetic meat we're [TS]

01:42:04   going to have like a like a sort of [TS]

01:42:06   similar thing to slavery where it's [TS]

01:42:08   going to be very easy for people on the [TS]

01:42:10   other side of this to be saying like [TS]

01:42:11   well obviously factory farming was such [TS]

01:42:14   a horrific Lee inhumane thing to do but [TS]

01:42:17   we're only going to be able to do that [TS]

01:42:19   once the economics also makes sense so [TS]

01:42:22   stop fretting the cows once we can [TS]

01:42:23   afford to free the cows exactly right [TS]

01:42:25   it's like we know it's bad now just like [TS]

01:42:29   people always knew slavery wasn't a [TS]

01:42:31   great idea but I think when people are [TS]

01:42:33   thinking about enacting change and when [TS]

01:42:35   and when people think like oh we need to [TS]

01:42:37   change the way factory farming is done [TS]

01:42:39   so that it's more humane I come down on [TS]

01:42:41   the other side of this is like if you [TS]

01:42:42   really want to effect change in this way [TS]

01:42:44   you should encourage research into [TS]

01:42:47   synthetic meat right and you should try [TS]

01:42:49   to get everyone you know on board with [TS]

01:42:51   eating synthetic meat like that's the [TS]

01:42:53   way you're actually going to change this [TS]

01:42:54   kind of thing you're never going to [TS]

01:42:56   change the factory farm you can only [TS]

01:42:58   change the economics around the factory [TS]

01:43:00   farm to make it unprofitable compared to [TS]

01:43:04   the alternatives i don't think it's an [TS]

01:43:06   overblown metaphor i can think of [TS]

01:43:07   someone that lives in my house that was [TS]

01:43:10   agree with you but I don't know whether [TS]

01:43:13   my wife would agree that with your [TS]

01:43:15   synthetic mate argument I've never [TS]

01:43:16   discussed it with her whether that's [TS]

01:43:18   them that's the cave but certainly I [TS]

01:43:20   lots of vegetarians who be quite [TS]

01:43:22   comfortable with the way we treat [TS]

01:43:23   animals being described as slavery [TS]

01:43:25   hmm that's quite inflammatory thing to [TS]

01:43:28   say but I don't think that means it's [TS]

01:43:30   wrong you know maybe inflammatory is [TS]

01:43:32   better but this is one of these things [TS]

01:43:35   where I'm just kind of curious to see if [TS]

01:43:39   it plays out the way that I think it [TS]

01:43:40   will play out that it will suddenly be [TS]

01:43:43   like Oh factory farming which we've [TS]

01:43:45   always known is bad becomes suddenly [TS]

01:43:47   intolerable right like we as a society [TS]

01:43:49   suddenly decide that it's absolutely [TS]

01:43:51   intolerable and it's like we don't [TS]

01:43:54   really talk directly about how it's [TS]

01:43:57   related to the fact that synthetic meat [TS]

01:43:58   is cheaper in the same way that at least [TS]

01:44:01   in the limited way that I've [TS]

01:44:03   looked into it particularly within the [TS]

01:44:04   united states like a lot of things [TS]

01:44:06   around slavery seem to be related to the [TS]

01:44:08   farming technology at the time like in [TS]

01:44:10   what required a lot of manpower versus [TS]

01:44:13   what didn't and it's like oh it's funny [TS]

01:44:15   how as the value of manpower goes down [TS]

01:44:18   like the calls for getting rid of [TS]

01:44:20   slavery go up and also become more [TS]

01:44:22   effective [TS]

01:44:23   I just wonder if that's going to be the [TS]

01:44:25   same kind of case with the synthetic [TS]

01:44:26   meat i don't know i find it interesting [TS]

01:44:28   that when you're making the argument [TS]

01:44:30   it's almost like a bit of an animal [TS]

01:44:32   rights argument which is a nice thing to [TS]

01:44:34   be baking that you're stopping short [TS]

01:44:36   that your you keep saying factory [TS]

01:44:38   farming like you're almost saying it [TS]

01:44:40   would still be okay to eat a shape for [TS]

01:44:41   support up in Nice circumstances it's [TS]

01:44:43   just a factory should Nate it's almost [TS]

01:44:45   like if you're gonna be a bear be a [TS]

01:44:47   grizzly great if you're going to say [TS]

01:44:48   that animals have these rides why are [TS]

01:44:51   you stopping at factory farming why you [TS]

01:44:52   saying maybe we should be eating animals [TS]

01:44:54   at all and we're just doing it out of [TS]

01:44:56   economic expediency [TS]

01:44:58   well I guess I'm saying factory farming [TS]

01:45:00   here because the horrible thing is like [TS]

01:45:03   the life condition and the death of the [TS]

01:45:05   animal [TS]

01:45:06   I'm just thinking out loud here but I [TS]

01:45:08   could imagine a scenario where if let's [TS]

01:45:10   say like the farm that exists on my [TS]

01:45:13   package of eggs which is it like a [TS]

01:45:14   perfect farm and some hills or some [TS]

01:45:17   chickens running around and they're [TS]

01:45:18   being totally happy chickens they give [TS]

01:45:20   that if that farm actually exists and [TS]

01:45:24   the chickens are living a happy life [TS]

01:45:25   right up until the very end and they [TS]

01:45:28   never see the very end coming [TS]

01:45:29   I don't necessarily think there's [TS]

01:45:31   anything bad with that this like a [TS]

01:45:33   chicken lives a happy life and never [TS]

01:45:34   suffers and we also eat the chicken [TS]

01:45:38   I'm not sure I can really get behind the [TS]

01:45:41   idea of that being terribly morally [TS]

01:45:43   wrong [TS]

01:45:45   I don't know I feel like I haven't [TS]

01:45:47   really sat down and thought that through [TS]

01:45:49   to its its full extent but I feel like [TS]

01:45:51   I'm pretty okay with the idea of eating [TS]

01:45:54   an animal that has lived a happy life [TS]

01:45:58   I think I'm okay with eating happy [TS]

01:45:59   chickens before we go [TS]

01:46:03   I think that maybe a coke coming through [TS]

01:46:06   i'm not great I don't want to hear it I [TS]

01:46:07   swear to god I'm clenching up already [TS]

01:46:09   I don't I i just got failing now I've [TS]

01:46:12   been good tho Brady I've been good the [TS]

01:46:15   whole teeth [TS]

01:46:17   let's find out that's answer this cold [TS]

01:46:20   god it's so horrible [TS]

01:46:22   huh oh hello its center here [TS]

01:46:27   Who am I speaking to cgpgrey everywhere [TS]

01:46:34   with the slowest hoping you would answer [TS]

01:46:36   if i remember correctly you're five [TS]

01:46:41   years old [TS]

01:46:43   is that right it's am super listen I've [TS]

01:46:48   decided to personally corn and because [TS]

01:46:52   I've heard that you been a bit of a [TS]

01:46:55   naughty boy that's not true that means [TS]

01:46:58   I've had to put your name on my naughty [TS]

01:47:01   list [TS]

01:47:01   the elves and I are not impressed [TS]

01:47:05   you must not true self and show that you [TS]

01:47:08   could the good child that I know you are [TS]

01:47:10   my elves have to me that you can be very [TS]

01:47:14   well behaved [TS]

01:47:15   did you tell me what to do said that can [TS]

01:47:18   you promise me that you'll be good from [TS]

01:47:21   now on I'm rebelling against this system [TS]

01:47:24   no he don't know i don't like this at [TS]

01:47:26   all no but it was jolly nice talking to [TS]

01:47:30   you but I have to go now you know I'm [TS]

01:47:33   very busy preparing for Christmas I'm [TS]

01:47:37   going to take my new slave richest drive [TS]

01:47:40   remember it's very important to behave [TS]

01:47:45   well all year round [TS]

01:47:47   I hope how talk to you again soon [TS]

01:47:51   merry Chris pass and now he's been on [TS]

01:47:55   ice is put you on the naughty list [TS]

01:47:57   imagine that getting a cold from Santa [TS]

01:47:59   big toads directly you're on the naughty [TS]

01:48:01   list [TS]

01:48:02   that's it you might as well just give up [TS]

01:48:04   it's just a total black mirror nightmare [TS]

01:48:07   it really is it [TS]