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  I don't know if you're aware of this or [TS]

  not but as we're recording right now [TS]

  like right now at night it is the super [TS]

  moon night [TS]

  it's a supermoon i'm looking at my [TS]

  window no no great don't oh look that's [TS]

  what I wanted to tell you not to do [TS]

  terribly sorry because during a [TS]

  supermoon not only is the moon a little [TS]

  bit closer than usual looking up because [TS]

  it's a full moon [TS]

  it appears brighter than usual and this [TS]

  is the biggest the moon will have [TS]

  appeared for like 70 years and just [TS]

  looking at it if you add to believe the [TS]

  media could clean out your readiness for [TS]

  the tidal forces from the supermoon [TS]

  could rip your head from your body so [TS]

  whatever you do don't look at the [TS]

  supermoon don't even get near it man [TS]

  this is massive [TS]

  is that what journalists think [TS]

  Superman's you think that you think it's [TS]

  gonna like take up half the sky the way [TS]

  they're carrying on and I've also seen [TS]

  actual depictions of what it will look [TS]

  like compared to what it normally looks [TS]

  like and it's like eight percent or [TS]

  something not even though it's like [TS]

  crazy like how little the differences [TS]

  but it's supermoon supermoon everything [TS]

  supermoon Facebook's even saying look at [TS]

  the super moon tonight [TS]

  well I'm looking out the window I see [TS]

  nothing [TS]

  yeah alright i hope you're wearing [TS]

  sunglasses and had your special tired or [TS]

  vest on when you did it [TS]

  I'm woefully underprepared for the [TS]

  supermoon you feeling alright for the [TS]

  podcast you in the zone feeling happy [TS]

  can i cheer you up somehow no you can't [TS]

  cheer me up Brady because i'm absolutely [TS]

  furious about a thing is going to take a [TS]

  while to explain but I have to get this [TS]

  off my chest right at the start I [TS]

  already know what is what is a breeding [TS]

  your starbucks is and stop to the hot [TS]

  stoppers no no no it's not that is not [TS]

  that now i have have what I guess could [TS]

  be classified as like a political [TS]

  problem i guess let me explain this [TS]

  thing that makes me absolutely furious [TS]

  alright so i live in the city now there [TS]

  are lots of people in a city and one of [TS]

  the things you need when there are lots [TS]

  of people is an effective system to take [TS]

  the garbage away and dump it wherever [TS]

  right wherever it goes [TS]

  not here yeah so in the little area that [TS]

  I live there are supposed to be [TS]

  for garbage pickups each one on a [TS]

  parallel street there are four parallel [TS]

  streets is a garbage can at each end of [TS]

  the street opposite ends so it's nice [TS]

  and convenient nice and close for [TS]

  everybody [TS]

  hmm now where I happen to live as one of [TS]

  those areas of London that clearly a [TS]

  long time ago a bunch of rich people [TS]

  lived in this area in single enormous [TS]

  homes and has since been converted into [TS]

  apartments in which there are maybe ten [TS]

  15 families like there's a lot of people [TS]

  here and a lot more people over time and [TS]

  one of the problems that happens is that [TS]

  the garbage cans overflow now let me ask [TS]

  you Brady if you had a problem where [TS]

  they were garbage cans overflowing what [TS]

  do you think would be the solutions if [TS]

  you wanted to alleviate this problem of [TS]

  overflowing garbage cans [TS]

  well two things spring to mind ok one [TS]

  would be more regular pickups and the [TS]

  other would be bigger garbage bins yes [TS]

  congratulations you get a gold star but [TS]

  no you know what my local council thinks [TS]

  is the appropriate solution to [TS]

  overflowing garbage bins it is to take [TS]

  away street-by-street the actual garbage [TS]

  pickups and to replace the space where [TS]

  the garbage cans used to be a passive [TS]

  aggressive sign tellin people we have [TS]

  removed the garbage cans and please [TS]

  don't dump any garbage here and so now [TS]

  in like a four-block radius of where i [TS]

  am there is for garbage cans in one [TS]

  location for what I mentally and [TS]

  calculating is something like probably a [TS]

  thousand or 1,500 people who need to use [TS]

  these garbage cans and as a nice bonus [TS]

  everybody is now way further away from a [TS]

  garbage can and I feel like this is one [TS]

  of these things that like if you ever go [TS]

  to disney disney in America has this [TS]

  just nailed down you know how they solve [TS]

  the garbage problem in disney garbage [TS]

  cans everywhere right you can't swing a [TS]

  child in disney without hitting a [TS]

  garbage can write like they're all over [TS]

  the place because you know what they [TS]

  want they want nice happy clean streets [TS]

  and so if there's garbage cans [TS]

  immediately visible people throw stuff [TS]

  away [TS]

  but now where i live people are just [TS]

  dumping garbage on the streets it's gone [TS]

  from people were for a little while they [TS]

  were trying like I will just pile up the [TS]

  garbage where the garbage cans used to [TS]

  be here let me send you a photo of what [TS]

  this looks like right we straight look [TS]

  ugly if you had garbage cans everywhere [TS]

  don't you want your London streets to [TS]

  look pretty and look like I looked in [TS]

  that the seventeen hundreds and stuff [TS]

  ok yes in theory you would but here's [TS]

  one of these things like we have this in [TS]

  life where there have to be trade-offs [TS]

  and I think once you reach a certain [TS]

  density of population the trade-off has [TS]

  to be there are garbage cans and regular [TS]

  locations for people to dump their [TS]

  garbage now where i live like there are [TS]

  so many people there's already garbage [TS]

  pickup three times a week you can leave [TS]

  garbage in front of your house once a [TS]

  week and they have all of these garbage [TS]

  cans and it still wasn't enough for all [TS]

  of the people i don't understand how [TS]

  they think the solution is we're just [TS]

  going to remove all of the garbage cans [TS]

  and then tell people not to dump their [TS]

  garbage there and now there is garbage [TS]

  absolutely everywhere i have sent you a [TS]

  photo of where the garbage cans used to [TS]

  be but like all the streets just look [TS]

  like this and you know what you know [TS]

  what really bothers me i feel like i try [TS]

  to be a good person at least when it's [TS]

  easy and now i'm having to just like [TS]

  dump garbage places as well because like [TS]

  there's nowhere to put it [TS]

  if I walk three blocks necessary to the [TS]

  actual garbage can with the garbage that [TS]

  I take out it's a mountain of trash [TS]

  right like it's an Everest of trash and [TS]

  if I throw my garbage on the top of it [TS]

  it just rolls down into the street and I [TS]

  figure it like i might as well just [TS]

  leave the garbage in the street along [TS]

  with all of these other bags of garbage [TS]

  in the street this is just like I don't [TS]

  understand Brady I don't understand how [TS]

  how people think the opposite solution [TS]

  is the solution [TS]

  I mean that picture is pretty horrendous [TS]

  i'll give you that you're gonna have to [TS]

  back up for me here at sustained stop [TS]

  coming out of your ears and can I just [TS]

  get a little bit of context to I'm like [TS]

  literally sweating with anger but yes [TS]

  your head just so I understand em before [TS]

  this debacle em how did the system work [TS]

  with a like communal garbage cans that [TS]

  were permanently in the street 24-7 or [TS]

  like do you have like a hidden garbage [TS]

  area but I don't understand what the [TS]

  situation was before for example i have [TS]

  a big wheelie bin that is a little shed [TS]

  in my front yard and we fill up their [TS]

  own bin and then one day a week we roll [TS]

  out onto the footpath and the people [TS]

  will come and empty and then we'll roll [TS]

  it back onto our properly [TS]

  you obviously don't have that how does [TS]

  it work normally yes you have the nice [TS]

  suburban solution to garbage which is [TS]

  that you have your own bins and since [TS]

  property is bigger in suburbia you have [TS]

  an actual place to store the bins [TS]

  this is the problem of being in a very [TS]

  dense area like that is just not a [TS]

  practical solution because again most [TS]

  people's flats are very small like even [TS]

  if my wife and I wanted to we couldn't [TS]

  actually store very much garbage in the [TS]

  flats you have to end up taking it out [TS]

  all the time [TS]

  yeah and so the solution here is that on [TS]

  each of the streets they have tried to [TS]

  find a relatively out-of-the-way spot [TS]

  where they would just leave to garbage [TS]

  cans and a recycling bin [TS]

  this is on public land and always [TS]

  visible this is on public land and [TS]

  always visible and as far as it can go [TS]

  like it's fine [TS]

  they don't think it's too much of an [TS]

  eyesore and the trade-off of you have a [TS]

  place to put garbage is perfectly [TS]

  acceptable and there used to be garbage [TS]

  pickup three times a week and on top of [TS]

  that one or two days a week i can never [TS]

  quite remember you're allowed to leave [TS]

  garbage outside your house at night and [TS]

  a truck comes by first thing in the [TS]

  morning to pick it up there trying to [TS]

  take away garbage all the time but that [TS]

  seems extravagant to make great that's [TS]

  like garbage paradise having someone [TS]

  pick up the brush every day [TS]

  well you have a place to put it every [TS]

  day and someone comes to pick it up [TS]

  twice a week from your house and three [TS]

  times a week from the bins [TS]

  I think you've been spoiled for too long [TS]

  no but this is just a fundamental [TS]

  sanitation problems like this is what [TS]

  government is supposed to do it supposed [TS]

  to keep pestilence out of the streets [TS]

  this is like the basics is garbage [TS]

  collection right like you have to take [TS]

  it away if you don't take it away [TS]

  we will have cholera this is not a good [TS]

  thing so it's like yes I understand that [TS]

  there's a lot of garbage pickup but the [TS]

  reason that there is a lot of garbage [TS]

  pickup is because in this area there [TS]

  must be four five six times as many [TS]

  people living here as there were 20 [TS]

  years ago at the most [TS]

  it's become a very dense area even [TS]

  though if you just like looked at a [TS]

  street you might not think that there's [TS]

  a ton of people here but like every [TS]

  building has 10 12 apartments in it like [TS]

  there's a gigantic apartment complex [TS]

  that like hidden around the corner [TS]

  there's just like a ton of people here [TS]

  and they [TS]

  I read a lot of garbage and they have [TS]

  nowhere to store it [TS]

  ok and my counsel think the appropriate [TS]

  solution is reduced garbage service [TS]

  because too many people were leaving [TS]

  garbage on the street I can't do if I [TS]

  think you should be able to hold onto [TS]

  your garbage for a bit longer you should [TS]

  be able to hold onto your cabbage for a [TS]

  week and have it picked up once awake [TS]

  and just put it all out on the path on [TS]

  that one not i don't think you [TS]

  understand what i believed in city [TS]

  apartments many times I know you live in [TS]

  a palatial mansion far up north where [TS]

  ever it is no brighton binghamton don't [TS]

  forget you have no idea it was [TS]

  seven-story eight-story building [TS]

  entirely yours [TS]

  my wife and I it's but a cardboard box [TS]

  and we have not room to store but a [TS]

  single fish skeleton after we've eaten [TS]

  our meager dinners [TS]

  there's nowhere to put anything it has [TS]

  to go somewhere is going on the street [TS]

  where the surface take it [TS]

  exactly exactly Brady I'll tell you what [TS]

  great i mean it was serious you know [TS]

  you've got a friend in me when it comes [TS]

  to complain about garbage you're talking [TS]

  to the man who has made a youtube video [TS]

  that he has used on multiple occasions [TS]

  and shame his counsel when they did a [TS]

  bad job with the garbage collection [TS]

  that's your ringing of the bell one that [TS]

  I don't understand right [TS]

  yeah it's based on a very famous scene [TS]

  in Game of Thrones but I film to add in [TS]

  my straight i watched it the reference [TS]

  goes by main but it does feel like this [TS]

  is an ominous passive-aggressive thing [TS]

  like that's ok it's to have a look in [TS]

  the show notes people and you can watch [TS]

  the video that I tweet every time I [TS]

  council takes too long to pick up the [TS]

  sizing up too long [TS]

  I like that too long to hit a pic of the [TS]

  recycling at the first time i made this [TS]

  the recycling had been out in the street [TS]

  for overweight so the video got made [TS]

  let me ask you has been effective they [TS]

  know about it okay haha it was effective [TS]

  actually they started contacting me ask [TS]

  you for my details but as soon as I [TS]

  start asking me for that personal [TS]

  details I'm like go away [TS]

  did you pick up the rubbish look at this [TS]

  sounds like an L what I'm hearing [TS]

  ultimately they know your video has not [TS]

  been no I would go so far as to say it [TS]

  has been effective [TS]

  ok maybe I need to make a [TS]

  passive-aggressive viral video about my [TS]

  garbage do it [TS]

  I'm not entirely convinced but I think [TS]

  you're in the right [TS]

  what is there not to be convinced by I [TS]

  haven't heard by side of the story [TS]

  ok i'll be sure to phone my local [TS]

  councilman let him know basically what I [TS]

  think's happening is you guys have had [TS]

  it too good for too long and as soon as [TS]

  I tried to let change anything you're [TS]

  like oh I'm not changing my habits i'm [TS]

  just gonna check everything in the [TS]

  straight what habits there's nowhere to [TS]

  store the stuff I don't even understand [TS]

  what it is you want me to do you don't [TS]

  just start at the minute you got to [TS]

  throwing out garbage day [TS]

  it's not the sitting there all week you [TS]

  don't just wanna finish without the [TS]

  window there's probably a garbage [TS]

  collector out there right now become 19 [TS]

  times a day no they don't come 19 times [TS]

  a day like we have a garbage can [TS]

  it gets full it gets really sticky and [TS]

  when you live in a very small apartment [TS]

  all on one level you can't keep stinky [TS]

  garbage in your house for a week we [TS]

  physically we don't have enough space to [TS]

  store all of our garbage unless we're [TS]

  just like leaving garbage bags in the [TS]

  main room should be some cabbage [TS]

  communal area than in the basement or [TS]

  something it should just go straight to [TS]

  the strength the minute you finished [TS]

  with okay yeah i mean like and again if [TS]

  wishes were horses we'd all be eating [TS]

  steak but there is no communal area in [TS]

  the house to put garbage there's no [TS]

  space because it's all been turned into [TS]

  apartments apartment for the people [TS]

  generating garbage because you're a [TS]

  bunch of Greater London is that wave [TS]

  created Londoners who's the creepy [TS]

  hundred here I don't understand like him [TS]

  either landlord in this scenario know i [TS]

  am the tenants i do not have the [TS]

  adequate infrastructure where I'm living [TS]

  I don't understand what you want Brady [TS]

  well that's not the council's fault it [TS]

  doesn't mean you should be able to throw [TS]

  everything out of the strike [TS]

  I know he doesn't mean they should be [TS]

  allowed to throw everything out in the [TS]

  street I don't want to throw everything [TS]

  out into the street do you understand [TS]

  Brady I want the opposite of that I want [TS]

  to place to put the garbage you want [TS]

  like thousands of your personal garbage [TS]

  cans out on the footpath that should be [TS]

  public property where people that make [TS]

  it to work no I would like an adequate [TS]

  amount of garbage pickup in an adequate [TS]

  number of places so that people don't [TS]

  leave garbage on the street that's all I [TS]

  want I don't think this is crazy i think [TS]

  this is totally reasonable are you gonna [TS]

  give this to make no no not yet not yet [TS]

  clearly that picture you sent me is an [TS]

  eyesore and that cannot be tolerated but [TS]

  I'm yet to decide whether it is the [TS]

  fault of the council or the photo of the [TS]

  tenants that's the least of it doesn't [TS]

  think that i sent you is where the [TS]

  garbage cans used to be it's not just [TS]

  the garbages on the street people are [TS]

  just giving up [TS]

  this is a perfect example of those like [TS]

  this dichotomy between how should people [TS]

  behave and how do people behave and the [TS]

  truth is like when people start leaving [TS]

  garbage on the street people are more [TS]

  likely just just leave garbage on the [TS]

  street because then everybody things why [TS]

  bother [TS]

  and now we have a tragedy of the Commons [TS]

  situation here is like no this is why [TS]

  you just have to have it convenient for [TS]

  people to do the right thing and just [TS]

  simply sitting around wishing that [TS]

  everybody was better or worse thing that [TS]

  one of the people in the building just [TS]

  disappeared and we turn their entire [TS]

  apartment into just the place where we [TS]

  dump all of the garbage and it festers [TS]

  in the building [TS]

  I mean I guess we could wish for these [TS]

  things but it can change like that I [TS]

  just want garbage pickup that's all I [TS]

  want I think it's very reasonable one [TS]

  little piece of garbage when they should [TS]

  follow up by the way and I don't want to [TS]

  keep this quick but enough people [TS]

  contacted me that i feel like i have to [TS]

  mention that ok [TS]

  in the last show I mentioned that I was [TS]

  throwing away two huge garbage bags full [TS]

  of my old clothes [TS]

  congratulations thank you i use the term [TS]

  throwing away very loosely i did not in [TS]

  fact put it in the bin or throw in a [TS]

  London straight as great probably would [TS]

  of what I in fact did and i have to [TS]

  point this out because so many people of [TS]

  admonished me I did give the clothing to [TS]

  a local charity i did not throw it into [TS]

  like Lancefield whatever other was [TS]

  considered good enough hopefully will be [TS]

  sold and is raising money for st. [TS]

  Peter's hospice in Bristol so please [TS]

  stop contacting me and telling me i'm a [TS]

  bad for throwing away lots and lots of [TS]

  clothes I did give it to charity the [TS]

  charity shop wanted they did they take [TS]

  it they didn't really have much of a [TS]

  choice because I had to let double-park [TS]

  when I gave it to one side swing and [TS]

  I've got some clothes for you I said [TS]

  that's great and then I went and rented [TS]

  my car hmm massive garbage bags there's [TS]

  some good stuff in there amongst the [TS]

  dross there's some good stuff [TS]

  let me read my internal mental meter for [TS]

  how much do I trust Brady statement that [TS]

  there was some good stuff right in the [TS]

  bag of garbage that he's bringing to the [TS]

  cherish up there was good stuff i get a [TS]

  one out of debt now I promise you there [TS]

  was good stuff if you happen to be a [TS]

  little bit thinner than me [TS]

  I'm just suspicious because my local [TS]

  charity shop has a big sign about all [TS]

  the things that they please don't want [TS]

  you to give them and i'm pretty sure [TS]

  clothing is at the top of that list i [TS]

  know this is a clothing shop [TS]

  ok ok i did feel a little bit weird [TS]

  because I'm worried that like I'm [TS]

  what's that saying people walking around [TS]

  the streets wearing my clothes I think [TS]

  that recognizable and I I did give them [TS]

  a smarter every day tation yeah because [TS]

  I like an Alabama elephant yeah that's [TS]

  what you're going to be seeing as I'm [TS]

  walking around the streets of bradford [TS]

  with Destin get me to smarter every day [TS]

  tation and I did pick one of them tested [TS]

  just to get your listening I didn't give [TS]

  them both away but one the college [TS]

  student so you may say mmm i get to the [TS]

  charity stuff I think there's to smarter [TS]

  every day t-shirts in that charity store [TS]

  now I've kept the other one I'm going to [TS]

  be keeping my eye out for it on [TS]

  objectivity Brady that's what I'm going [TS]

  to be looking for i want to see and [TS]

  objectivity video with you sir Don [TS]

  sometime I'll take a picture of me [TS]

  wearing it with tomorrow's newspaper [TS]

  totally photoshop i can tell by the [TS]

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  thing I wanted to follow up on was you [TS]

  know how you have your series thing when [TS]

  you're angry where serie says hang on [TS]

  i'll tell you when I'm ready are ya i [TS]

  realized that i have one of those as [TS]

  well so do you [TS]

  yeah I didn't realize how much i had [TS]

  annoyed me and then a day or two [TS]

  afterwards that happened to me again and [TS]

  I thought this is making me feel how [TS]

  gray felt it's not quite as an overtly [TS]

  hostile but i'll tell you what it is and [TS]

  you know you may not recognize it [TS]

  because you're like a female ninja who [TS]

  gets around these problems in other ways [TS]

  but not often I find myself on mailing [TS]

  lists I don't want to be on hulu and [TS]

  sometimes i click that button that says [TS]

  unsubscribe me from this little and you [TS]

  always get met with a response that I [TS]

  find wholly inappropriate and that is [TS]

  your request is being processed food and [TS]

  that bothers me in two ways [TS]

  I've been put on your my oldest that I [TS]

  didn't want to be on which I consider a [TS]

  hostile act already know and then you [TS]

  have the audacity to treat my demand to [TS]

  be have my privacy back as a media [TS]

  requests your request [TS]

  oh we consider your request this is not [TS]

  a request this is a demand to be removed [TS]

  from your list and then also being [TS]

  processed like I could take us a few [TS]

  weeks and we're going to talk to build [TS]

  from accounting but no no take me off [TS]

  the list that I've been wrongly put on [TS]

  immediately and stop sending me spam [TS]

  food [TS]

  your request is being processed is [TS]

  unsatisfactory to me i have in the past [TS]

  i have seen that it may take up to 24 to [TS]

  48 hours to remove you from this list i [TS]

  feel like i don't believe you but I [TS]

  don't believe that that's actually true [TS]

  i think you want to get in water to more [TS]

  mailings while you still can [TS]

  I think this is part of your automated [TS]

  system that you want to try to catch me [TS]

  before I go and you're like I might take [TS]

  two days if even if it is true that it [TS]

  takes one or two days for some silly [TS]

  reason who just keep that to yourself [TS]

  like to say sorry about that you're off [TS]

  the list at [TS]

  is that what you wanted the unsubscribe [TS]

  message sorry about that here off the [TS]

  lower request is being processed [TS]

  of course I'm not mortally scared that [TS]

  is the message people get my unsubscribe [TS]

  from by my list I must check that I have [TS]

  no idea that but hopeful of one of [TS]

  Brady's things a look it takes up to 72 [TS]

  hours to process your request wow what a [TS]

  jerk [TS]

  yeah your players being considered [TS]

  I do have to say I'm a little bit [TS]

  pleased by the fact that you notice this [TS]

  thing and you are now annoyed by it [TS]

  because my only consolidation to my [TS]

  serie rent from last time was hearing [TS]

  from a number of people who I hadn't [TS]

  planted this mind virus into that are [TS]

  now aware of their rude supposedly but [TS]

  not actually subservience digital [TS]

  devices in one form or another [TS]

  I feel like great like my annoyance [TS]

  allow it to spread outward like from my [TS]

  mind to your mind [TS]

  so I've got another bit of follow-up [TS]

  gray em you may remember in i think it [TS]

  was the previous episode we talked about [TS]

  in Australia the channel channel seven [TS]

  had this obscene watermark on their news [TS]

  coverage whenever they have exclusive [TS]

  footage of something that they want to [TS]

  have to themselves on the news like a [TS]

  fire or a car crash little they were [TS]

  putting this watermark that covered half [TS]

  the screen saying Channel 7 News it was [TS]

  ridiculous [TS]

  so since then someone has shown me sort [TS]

  of a promotional advertisement that was [TS]

  made by channel nine and before I get [TS]

  you to watch a great just so you've got [TS]

  the context in your head who [TS]

  channel 7 and channel nine when it comes [TS]

  to news coverage and their nightly news [TS]

  programs mortal enemy little mortal [TS]

  enemies and it is highly highly [TS]

  competitive I've not known a TV news [TS]

  markers competitive and channel nine [TS]

  channel seven who are the two top dogs i [TS]

  just always at each other's throat they [TS]

  always want the exclusive and that so [TS]

  channel 9 made a video that they have [TS]

  thought needed to be shown to the world [TS]

  and i would like you to watch this video [TS]

  now takes about 30 seconds okay see what [TS]

  you think I'm imagining that whatever [TS]

  i'm going to see it's gonna have a [TS]

  watermark that's like from channel 9 [TS]

  news [TS]

  screw you channel 7 news this is way [TS]

  more matter than that [TS]

  channel 9 would like to apologize to all [TS]

  viewers who find the watermark we put in [TS]

  the middle of the screen annoying and [TS]

  distracting [TS]

  unfortunately even a big watermark like [TS]

  this isn't enough to stop channel seven [TS]

  from stealing our footage they even have [TS]

  the audacity to call it an exclusive [TS]

  were good i was a little bit amazed by [TS]

  I've never seen a more petty I'm not [TS]

  it's like kids fighting in the backseat [TS]

  of a car [TS]

  even I wouldn't do that and I'm Petty [TS]

  sometimes you are incredibly petty [TS]

  sometimes but that is amazing that you [TS]

  want to explain to people what you just [TS]

  watch okay of course in the show notes [TS]

  for the people who helped as well love [TS]

  this channel 9 news like we're sorry for [TS]

  some viewers of finding our gigantic [TS]

  watermark annoying but even our gigantic [TS]

  watermark didn't stop those jerks the [TS]

  channel 7 news from airing our footage [TS]

  as an exclusive ok then i'm sure they [TS]

  didn't look what channel 7 didn't look [TS]

  blurred our water back and claim that [TS]

  was their own footage [TS]

  they're basically telling tales that [TS]

  night they're like them I'm having [TS]

  flashbacks to kids tattling on each [TS]

  other at school and me just not caring [TS]

  at all where between the Superman I've [TS]

  couched as like a public service message [TS]

  exactly that's awful apologetic and [TS]

  explanatory and then it goes but channel [TS]

  7 didn't look what they did I can just [TS]

  hear myself like listen Susie listen [TS]

  Cindy I don't care what happens like [TS]

  just sit down just sit down and be quiet [TS]

  i don't care [TS]

  basically it's like a YouTube war [TS]

  yeah except it's like grown-up TV [TS]

  channels that should know better [TS]

  like it's the sort of juvenile thing [TS]

  that bloggers do when they just not [TS]

  mature it is bitching about each other [TS]

  I feel like if we ever return to the [TS]

  topic of the news and why you think i [TS]

  should watch it because people are very [TS]

  professional and attire and forward [TS]

  about the world i'm just going to [TS]

  remember this moment this is going to [TS]

  come into my head of like oh yes those [TS]

  news channels i never met an Australian [TS]

  write those savages don't know what [TS]

  they're doing is that what you're saying [TS]

  Brady tell you [TS]

  that's competitive down there is [TS]

  competitive well done guys [TS]

  nobody cares they're look so I'm just [TS]

  back from a capital awakes and spiritual [TS]

  have and I've been doing a lot of [TS]

  overing yes I guess not surprisingly [TS]

  spending a lot of time in new Bruges [TS]

  always makes me think more and more [TS]

  about uber and I've had two thoughts i [TS]

  wanted to share them [TS]

  one is I know we can discuss this before [TS]

  and it's not like a new discovery but it [TS]

  was kind of like a real discovery for me [TS]

  because I spent a lot more time talking [TS]

  to the drivers and understanding things [TS]

  flew and it made me realize why I would [TS]

  probably find driving boobs quite [TS]

  addictive and it's how successfully they [TS]

  like have game ified the experience what [TS]

  do you mean like being an over driver to [TS]

  me is like playing a video game it's [TS]

  like you've got like a screen like an [TS]

  interface and you never know where your [TS]

  next adventure is gonna come from and [TS]

  where it's going to be too and who it's [TS]

  gonna be weird and suddenly pops up and [TS]

  you do it you collect rewards for doing [TS]

  it and the more you do it the more [TS]

  rewards you get and you're following a [TS]

  map to find the person and they going to [TS]

  follow a map to take them to their place [TS]

  and if you do that you get the treasure [TS]

  and also ever have lots of light [TS]

  incentives that they built into it that [TS]

  i'm a big nerd of like if you do 50 [TS]

  rides before monday you get an extra [TS]

  hundred ninety dollars and if you do 20 [TS]

  of these before 2pm tomorrow there's a [TS]

  there's always like bonuses and things [TS]

  coming up all the time for the drivers [TS]

  and there was really aware of these [TS]

  things and they'll work the extra two [TS]

  hours because therefore ride short of [TS]

  their two hundred dollar bonus but will [TS]

  my next one take me far enough to know [TS]

  what will I get next and it's all very [TS]

  game ified i found really appealing [TS]

  talking to them about and i can imagine [TS]

  how much fun that would be the first [TS]

  time i came across this was actually [TS]

  talking about this with an uber driver [TS]

  in San Francisco I forget exactly what [TS]

  it was but he had some kind of incentive [TS]

  to stay in the center of the city like [TS]

  he could specify that on his appt be [TS]

  like if he hit a certain number of [TS]

  short-haul drives they would pay him [TS]

  enough to make up for the fact that he [TS]

  was doing like a very large number of [TS]

  very short drives i learned so much [TS]

  great [TS]

  I complicated to as I was saying what if [TS]

  you want to go somewhere and like uber [TS]

  is taking you somewhere else soon but [TS]

  you can tell over i want to get to this [TS]

  place and it will give you rides to get [TS]

  you there but you can only do two of [TS]

  them a day and also they don't count [TS]

  towards your bonuses so if you're trying [TS]

  to collect 50 bonuses your destination [TS]

  choices don't count if you're within [TS]

  like a two-mile radius of the airport [TS]

  you go to a special airport q but if [TS]

  you're just dropping someone off [TS]

  straight away you can potentially jump [TS]

  that Q and go to the front because i [TS]

  want to encourage people to take people [TS]

  to the airport interesting it's so [TS]

  complicated there's so many cool little [TS]

  rules and complications it's amazing [TS]

  do you want to be an uber driver do you [TS]

  know what I do want to do know I want to [TS]

  work on a train [TS]

  ok that's a bit out of left field yeah I [TS]

  must have had some time I just think [TS]

  working on the train line to be so much [TS]

  fun feel like trains are the opposite of [TS]

  uber but ok [TS]

  yes but i was applying a sandwich on the [TS]

  train the other day and said to the guy [TS]

  said he liked working on the train and [TS]

  he said i love her i get up in the [TS]

  morning and I'm in London in the [TS]

  afternoon for my lunch break and then [TS]

  I'm back home and I think working on the [TS]

  trains would be great [TS]

  so the other thing that happened was [TS]

  and funnily enough it was the guy who [TS]

  told me the most about her over works [TS]

  will he was dragged me to the airport so [TS]

  we had a really long drive but when we [TS]

  got near the airport and I must point [TS]

  out I get it was to and from San [TS]

  Francisco Airport quite a lot little [TS]

  quite familiar with how it all works and [TS]

  he was driving me there and he says I [TS]

  can't drop you at the international [TS]

  terminal and I've been dropped at the [TS]

  international terminal many times and I [TS]

  get picked up from the international [TS]

  terminal hulu and I know there's a place [TS]

  at the international terminal it's at [TS]

  the departures section where the ogres [TS]

  go because whenever i arrived i have to [TS]

  go up to departures to get my room [TS]

  because the design allowed down arrivals [TS]

  I know this so he's saying I can't drop [TS]

  you there [TS]

  I've gotta drop your domestic and then [TS]

  you go to walk along the bridge or catch [TS]

  a train or something [TS]

  no no not acceptable and I was like this [TS]

  is crazy like I get dropped all the time [TS]

  you're wrong and he's like I can get a [TS]

  hundred-dollar fired and I can lose my [TS]

  permit and he was very insistent and I'm [TS]

  like I just didn't believe her i said [TS]

  you're wrong this is incorrect [TS]

  you can do it and then I said how long [TS]

  have you been an uber driver for and he [TS]

  said I've been an uber driver for about [TS]

  two months and I hadn't been to san fran [TS]

  just go in the last two months so I was [TS]

  thinking has some new rule come in the [TS]

  last two months stopping them dropping [TS]

  people off right oh no here's this grain [TS]

  of doubt in your mind [TS]

  he was very short and I was googling and [TS]

  I couldn't find anything about it and I [TS]

  was mad and I knew it was wrong and he [TS]

  said he drops me at the domestic [TS]

  terminal and by this time the dark [TS]

  clouds come over me and I said you are [TS]

  wrong about this [TS]

  I refuse to believe in the city of San [TS]

  Francisco you human beings can't be [TS]

  dropped by neighbor at the international [TS]

  terminal i know some cities have roles [TS]

  but I just didn't believe this i'm just [TS]

  thinking of this poor guy picks up his [TS]

  affable Australian but little does he [TS]

  know that the dark cloud is coming on [TS]

  this ride i was still like civil and he [TS]

  dropped me off and i said i believe [TS]

  you're wrong and he said you're gonna [TS]

  walk up there and go there whatever I [TS]

  said have a nice day thank you very much [TS]

  thank you goodbye and you drive away and [TS]

  then i gave him one star because he has [TS]

  two jobs who to pick me up [TS]

  Lou and trust me where I want to go Lou [TS]

  he did the first part well Lou but he [TS]

  completely failed to do the second part [TS]

  but I did not give him one star until I [TS]

  went inside and said to the woman at the [TS]

  information desk can / struck me at the [TS]

  international terminal and she said yes [TS]

  yes they can but they can only drop you [TS]

  at departures they can't drop your [TS]

  arrivals and I should thank you [TS]

  okay good that's what i wanted to check [TS]

  now I did ask but then I tried to [TS]

  contact him like I wanted to send him a [TS]

  message or like phone him or something [TS]

  just so he knew for next time [TS]

  and if i had been able to do that i [TS]

  probably would have up to star rating i [TS]

  even googled how do i change the rating [TS]

  i gave him because I felt so guilty but [TS]

  I couldn't contact him I couldn't just [TS]

  send him like a text message like to say [TS]

  hey man just so you know you've [TS]

  misunderstood the role little because he [TS]

  says sorry I always have to do this even [TS]

  told me he always drops people at the [TS]

  domestic terminal when they're flying [TS]

  international so he's doing this all the [TS]

  time to people i had to then like go up [TS]

  two escalators and catch a train and all [TS]

  sorts of things to get where I wanted to [TS]

  go [TS]

  you're just trying to be a hero for the [TS]

  next guy who steps in this guy's uber [TS]

  home i wanted to help him but I still [TS]

  feel guilty about it I don't know what [TS]

  to tell you what was I supposed to do [TS]

  was supposed to give him five stars for [TS]

  dropping me so far away [TS]

  to catch a train to my destination and [TS]

  you can't give someone five stars for [TS]

  that [TS]

  no you can't get some 15 starts that i'm [TS]

  going to back you on this one Brady [TS]

  thank you [TS]

  he's surprisingly relieved that I didn't [TS]

  realize my verdict on whether or not the [TS]

  one star rating was okay was really [TS]

  weighing on you here [TS]

  I felt like I had nowhere the toes in my [TS]

  tool belt what else could I do [TS]

  did you leave a comment when you left [TS]

  the one star review no it didn't give me [TS]

  the option to normally it does it says [TS]

  we know why one star because that's all [TS]

  I wanted to do I wanted to get the [TS]

  information to the guy right so the [TS]

  reason I put one style was because I [TS]

  know if I put 3 or higher [TS]

  I don't get to leave a comment blue so I [TS]

  pressed one knowing it would say why [TS]

  what's your comment and then comment [TS]

  thing didn't come up these are the [TS]

  tragedies in our modern world [TS]

  poor guy anyway one story from Brady I [TS]

  tell you what they want tragedies you [TS]

  ready for the next topic [TS]

  ok you always have this way of starting [TS]

  a topic that sets me on edge every time [TS]

  i watched every topic I don't always [TS]

  leave it in the show because sometimes [TS]

  i'm just so thrown out of sorts like the [TS]

  most innocuous topics somehow you always [TS]

  put me on edge and then every once in a [TS]

  while there's a real reason to be on [TS]

  edge like Apple feedback last time so i [TS]

  always feel like we're rolling with days [TS]

  every time Brady brings up the topic in [TS]

  this way so I'm I thought you were about [TS]

  to praise me then for my kid sick ways [TS]

  because almost every segment so far has [TS]

  segue into the one before and I thought [TS]

  that was a pretty good segue and I [TS]

  thought how great taking the time to [TS]

  just give me a pat on the back now I'm [TS]

  not taking the time to give you a pat on [TS]

  the back in fact i'm always annoyed by [TS]

  your segways because they make it harder [TS]

  for me to edit the show later always [TS]

  liked our braided a Segway here he [TS]

  couldn't just start the topic now i have [TS]

  to cut around this because I'm chopping [TS]

  out the boring bits I already thought [TS]

  about that and I thought that said where [TS]

  you could put one there is like I said [TS]

  you went to the next subject then you [TS]

  can go to beat up anyone's like I are I [TS]

  can't wait to find out what the next [TS]

  subject is it's gonna be awesome [TS]

  that's what I'm supposed to put the cut [TS]

  ok I didn't realize that it's different [TS]

  every time i get my anxiety is ramping [TS]

  up here what is the thing that you want [TS]

  to talk about [TS]

  well I want to talk about what could be [TS]

  apples greatest blunder know [TS]

  ok now i'm not talking about the watch [TS]

  okay because I can avoid the watch i [TS]

  don't have to wear the Apple watch [TS]

  so even though i think it's not their [TS]

  greatest moment whatever and it'll get [TS]

  you eventually just a matter of getting [TS]

  eventually maybe whatever you bring it [TS]

  up here like always above washer i [TS]

  always feel like I'm just gonna sit back [TS]

  right maybe it's a year maybe it's five [TS]

  years but it's as inevitable as a [TS]

  smartphone so yeah okay breaking [TS]

  everything up a notch [TS]

  sure i'm secretly thinking one day grays [TS]

  gonna get you know what I think I'm just [TS]

  gonna get a classy mechanical yeah you [TS]

  know what we need we need one of those [TS]

  websites that allows you to place bets [TS]

  like 5-10 years out i would happily take [TS]

  that bet of which is going to happen [TS]

  first does grace which to a mechanical [TS]

  water does Brady switch to an Apple [TS]

  watch I will happily take that bet you [TS]

  think I'm gonna been like either my [TS]

  amiga of my rolex for a Apple watch [TS]

  I think it will eventually happen [TS]

  because the value-add of a computer on [TS]

  your wrist will eventually beat the [TS]

  value of your nice watch [TS]

  I'm not saying soon right I'm not saying [TS]

  next year or two years loves to those [TS]

  two watches hi [TS]

  I know it's very high breaking I feel [TS]

  like this is almost certainly like the [TS]

  smartphone version of this like [TS]

  eventually it'll lose but anyway there [TS]

  is a chance but I also think there's a [TS]

  chance that there's some sophistication [TS]

  switch will turn and you suddenly just [TS]

  mature ever so slightly and become like [TS]

  a little bit class here right that's [TS]

  always what it's about and just [TS]

  unsophisticated unclassy and immature [TS]

  yeah because I don't decorate my house [TS]

  like it's from the 1910s understand that [TS]

  my love of a modern sleek aesthetic is [TS]

  just so childish [TS]

  it's obviously a thing all children are [TS]

  born with and real men grow out of and [TS]

  we'll just wait [TS]

  Childish of course not just less [TS]

  sophisticated yes I will grant you that [TS]

  there is a nonzero chance that I would [TS]

  switch to mechanical watch but it is [TS]

  very close to zero i would happily take [TS]

  that back [TS]

  yeah so what is Apple's greatest blunder [TS]

  well it's not even the massive massive [TS]

  blunder that they've made with this new [TS]

  macbook pro which for the first time i'm [TS]

  seriously seriously endanger being [TS]

  knocked off using Apple really because [TS]

  this new macbook pro is bordering on a [TS]

  new [TS]

  simple for me with the lack of ports [TS]

  crazy ok so that's what it is because [TS]

  I'm not really in the market for a [TS]

  laptop I didn't follow this very closely [TS]

  at all i know people have been [TS]

  complaining about it but I haven't [TS]

  followed it all figured out why it has [TS]

  these new USB ports whatever they're [TS]

  called is the USBC oh yeah okay i just [TS]

  got two of them and nothing else and [TS]

  this is the pro I can't put my SD cards [TS]

  into it without my video footage I can't [TS]

  put all my drawers and drawers full of [TS]

  hard drives that have all my rushes and [TS]

  things that I edit with anyway that's [TS]

  not I don't want to talk about that at [TS]

  the moment [TS]

  ok that's not the disaster i'm sorry no [TS]

  no man i can't imagine what the crew [TS]

  disaster is there in the upcoming update [TS]

  to the iOS emojis the wolf face which i [TS]

  have been using for Lulu and ordering [TS]

  for quite some time now she has been [TS]

  changed to a crappy grey wolf and it's [TS]

  no longer the Audrey loo look alike my [TS]

  favorite emoji has been retired [TS]

  I should have known it was gonna be [TS]

  simple I'm gonna talk about seriously I [TS]

  feel like I just walked right into the [TS]

  access for the benefit of like I'm [TS]

  waiting for some serious conversation [TS]

  and thinking how is pretty really going [TS]

  to switch computing systems [TS]

  what could possibly be my running my [TS]

  mental rolodex of course it's emoji [TS]

  related and I should have known should [TS]

  have known we can have a boring talk [TS]

  about changing computer systems another [TS]

  day [TS]

  let's talk about ammo gentle face ok but [TS]

  so just to be clear they're making the [TS]

  wolf face actually look like a wolf [TS]

  instead of looking like a two-hour [TS]

  that's what you're upset yes most other [TS]

  you know applications and operating [TS]

  systems have made the wolf face sort of [TS]

  a great-looking wolf right like a wolf [TS]

  yeah and apple had this glitch where for [TS]

  some reason they were using this kind of [TS]

  doggie type yellowy foxy thing that just [TS]

  like Lulu and Audrey so that was not [TS]

  what i use and everyone knows that was [TS]

  my favorite emoji even this is like when [TS]

  you say it looked just like Lulu and [TS]

  heart 3i think that is quite a stretch [TS]

  to say it looks just like them but it [TS]

  looked more like them it was certainly a [TS]

  suitable replacement for them in like [TS]

  text messages and stuff that you're [TS]

  already way [TS]

  walking that background he's talking [TS]

  with looks just like them and now we've [TS]

  got to suitable replacement for the [TS]

  converging form i would say if you are [TS]

  going to design quite a simple emoji to [TS]

  look like Audrey and her that's pretty [TS]

  much what you do got yellow heads got a [TS]

  little bit of white on the face a little [TS]

  bit of white on the neck just like those [TS]

  dogs in fact i will walk that walk back [TS]

  and say it does look just like them will [TS]

  let the people decide okay will be a [TS]

  link in the show notes and I'm sure fury [TS]

  as arguments in read it let the people [TS]

  decide on this one so anyway I have sent [TS]

  you a picture of what the camera Taylor [TS]

  George look alike and the new wolf looks [TS]

  like new wolf is better but it looks [TS]

  kind of like a squirrel [TS]

  does that bother you that I think it [TS]

  looks better yes but it does look like a [TS]

  squirrel [TS]

  it has a very squirrely I always feel [TS]

  like you're really loyal to order and [TS]

  literally when I thought you kind of go [TS]

  into back for them a bit wait hold on a [TS]

  second [TS]

  loyal two dogs in emoji form i think [TS]

  you're misunderstanding that I like your [TS]

  dogs i have an incredible indifference [TS]

  to emoji faces [TS]

  well I tell you what are the only person [TS]

  who's showing less sensitivity than yes [TS]

  it is my contact at a major pedia who I [TS]

  contacted just before the show our [TS]

  confirmation of what was happening [TS]

  uh-huh and he says bad news Bradley I'm [TS]

  sorry to break this to you and he said [TS]

  the new one that looks nothing like [TS]

  Audrey are low but then he had the [TS]

  audacity in my wounded emotional state [TS]

  he said to me this is a great win for [TS]

  cross-platform consistency but perhaps a [TS]

  loss for you and you Fox face emoji [TS]

  exists which some could see as a [TS]

  replacement for the old image so he's [TS]

  kicked me while I'm down and said that [TS]

  basically the emoji community is [TS]

  celebrating this as they should [TS]

  yeah okay love with him on that one as [TS]

  if that's not bad enough he then says [TS]

  because you know how last time we talked [TS]

  about this we caused his huge surge in a [TS]

  major pedia searches on this thing right [TS]

  and like there was a graph that showed a [TS]

  lot of spite of that food so it's like a [TS]

  thank you [TS]

  he has this fundraising thing where you [TS]

  can adopt an emoji little and he made [TS]

  Audrey they like the doctor of that [TS]

  emoji who he then has the audacity to [TS]

  say to be in this email where he's just [TS]

  kicked me he's put PS Audrey's one-year [TS]

  complimentary adoption of this emoji has [TS]

  just expired two was this [TS]

  not the respect that you deserve ready [TS]

  because i don't think anything that [TS]

  upset him how can you not give Audrey [TS]

  like a lifetime adoption as tribute [TS]

  especially now that it's being retired [TS]

  me ask you something how can you demand [TS]

  lifetime adoption on the way the person [TS]

  makes their living off of the emoji [TS]

  media I don't think that's how he makes [TS]

  his living even if he doesn't make his [TS]

  living like it's clear like a for-profit [TS]

  organization i presume against like [TS]

  they're making money on the emoji media [TS]

  and here you are wanting to lock down [TS]

  forever a little piece of real estate he [TS]

  was quite happy to put Audrey's name on [TS]

  it without my permission to start with [TS]

  that was a generous gift for a limited [TS]

  period of time I I think he was trading [TS]

  off orgies Fame know is that what you [TS]

  think [TS]

  okay well then you were the sucker for [TS]

  talking about it this much he said to me [TS]

  when I said that he said I'm sorry 2016 [TS]

  continues to disappoint ya i said oh [TS]

  well you can kiss another promotion of a [TS]

  major PDA goodbye but he's got one right [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  and yet here we are here we are [TS]

  oh you're not going to like this look [TS]

  well i was thinking you know how like [TS]

  that you're making rice wrap and the [TS]

  reunion swamp and I like extinct and you [TS]

  know how like the black stump was once [TS]

  the tallest building is not anymore [TS]

  right [TS]

  I think this seems to be a theme of [TS]

  their official things being like things [TS]

  that have kind of fired or no longer [TS]

  exist man so I was wondering if the [TS]

  yellow version of the wolf emoji could [TS]

  be the official emoji of hello internet [TS]

  no no of course not what up [TS]

  I don't know how you do this Freddie cuz [TS]

  know what I feel like I've already lost [TS]

  before any of these conversations even [TS]

  start because I you have this ability to [TS]

  rally the people around these unofficial [TS]

  official things for hello internet it's [TS]

  like quicksand right the more I resist [TS]

  the more people are like oh what a great [TS]

  idea that is tracking second so I have [TS]

  to ask you because the reason I want to [TS]

  know your thoughts on her is because [TS]

  when i make the t-shirt I want to know [TS]

  if it has to say official or unofficial [TS]

  emoji of hello internet i think all the [TS]

  Brady things have to be the unofficial [TS]

  whatever that's the unofficial ability [TS]

  of hello internet I will concede on [TS]

  unofficial official [TS]

  hello internet right it does that make [TS]

  you happy so i can put an official [TS]

  official yeah I think that's the [TS]

  compromise that we're reaching I think [TS]

  that's an upgrade from just unofficial [TS]

  take it however you want as long as the [TS]

  unofficial is first [TS]

  does that mean we have to decide on an [TS]

  official apology at some point now we're [TS]

  not doing this we're not doing this we [TS]

  don't need an official emoji and if we [TS]

  were going to have an official imagine [TS]

  what would have paid that we don't need [TS]

  like an official rice hand like any of [TS]

  these things we don't need I don't [TS]

  understand them [TS]

  I know you love them and I'm very happy [TS]

  for you but I don't know what the [TS]

  official emoji would be alright I don't [TS]

  even know what all the emojis are well [TS]

  we know what the unofficial official one [TS]

  is it's the yellow version of the wash [TS]

  that will be phased out and I OS 10.2 [TS]

  right so yeah the artificial emoji is [TS]

  the extinct one from 10.1 an earlier [TS]

  yeah it's not retro man it's cool i bet [TS]

  you it'll come back in again center [TS]

  after will be like why is everyone [TS]

  wearing these t-shirts with their old [TS]

  wolf emoji on it i'm sure that that is [TS]

  exactly what app will be thinking why is [TS]

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  a reunion swap paint Asia no yeah it was [TS]

  the first time i've ever seen someone [TS]

  wearing something hello internet who [TS]

  didn't know that we're gonna make me [TS]

  really like he just walked up to me and [TS]

  said oh wow [TS]

  Brady what are you doing here and then I [TS]

  looked and he was wearing the reunions [TS]

  want plantation was brilliant [TS]

  that is kind of brilliant yeah I had a [TS]

  similar experience but ever so slightly [TS]

  different and that I got on an elevator [TS]

  with someone who i saw was listening to [TS]

  the hello Internet podcast no elevator [TS]

  yeah did you say something of course not [TS]

  i stayed behind him and kept quiet there [TS]

  is a crime that you did not does not a [TS]

  crime [TS]

  oh there's not a crime that is a totally [TS]

  reasonable response that would have been [TS]

  the most awesome thing ever [TS]

  no it would not be the most awesome [TS]

  thing ever because this guy is in a [TS]

  building that i'm in a whole bunch and [TS]

  he would know who i am and then forever [TS]

  we might have to say hello if we see [TS]

  each other now is there's no way this is [TS]

  going to happen just he work in your [TS]

  building [TS]

  yeah he works in my building so that's [TS]

  not all not once not ever [TS]

  now everyone in London who since the [TS]

  halloween tonight is thinking just great [TS]

  work in my building [TS]

  the answer is no people no I work in [TS]

  none of your buildings except you Tim I [TS]

  still think it's a little bit criminal [TS]

  that you didn't like that was just such [TS]

  a perfect moment I can't believe you [TS]

  would even think that I would say [TS]

  something it's like you don't even know [TS]

  it [TS]

  of course I'm not surprised didn't do it [TS]

  because you believe that would have been [TS]

  an awesome opportunity [TS]

  that's like the kind of dream moment [TS]

  that like some people wait their whole [TS]

  life for to be able to say just tap him [TS]

  on the shoulder are you could have had [TS]

  so much fun i would not have had fun [TS]

  that is not have been fun [TS]

  that's why I didn't do it I swear gray [TS]

  like I know most hello Internet [TS]

  listeners like have a real appreciation [TS]

  for your mindset and many of them are [TS]

  like you but there must be hello [TS]

  Internet listeners out there right now [TS]

  who are like screaming at your missed [TS]

  opportunity not a missed opportunity [TS]

  because an opportunity taken an [TS]

  opportunity to have normal elevator [TS]

  rides for the rest of my time at that [TS]

  building era they were super weird that [TS]

  he would have a pretty good just [TS]

  attempting to swing and then go ahead [TS]

  haha wow yeah that's a plus way to [TS]

  handle that situation just have a [TS]

  strange man on the shoulder wink and [TS]

  saying that thing perfect yeah that's [TS]

  exactly what i do is obviously he [TS]

  probably doesn't know what you look like [TS]

  so i know you wouldn't do it and you [TS]

  didn't do it and I get that but if you [TS]

  were going to do a little and try and [TS]

  like make it a cool moment what could [TS]

  you have said that would have made him [TS]

  like go [TS]

  cgpgrey like okay are you enjoying the [TS]

  show [TS]

  I think that's what i would say that [TS]

  would have worked it would have worked [TS]

  that's not going to work [TS]

  not now not ever it would have been code [TS]

  so great i did mention that i am just [TS]

  back from America [TS]

  I was there for two weeks blue and [TS]

  obviously it's been a big two weeks in [TS]

  the united states and i have to say how [TS]

  glad I am that I got to be there [TS]

  oh yeah because seriously like super [TS]

  historic one of the great contest of all [TS]

  time' know everybody is happy without [TS]

  finished and not every it wasn't one by [TS]

  whoever I wanted to win but game 7 of [TS]

  the world series was absolutely [TS]

  incredible to do follow at all chicago [TS]

  cubs cleveland indians it was amazing [TS]

  no I don't even know what you're talking [TS]

  about you know the World Series is the [TS]

  baseball right yeah it's not the father [TS]

  of the baseball [TS]

  ok it's the super bowl of baseball yeah [TS]

  and it was between the Cleveland Indians [TS]

  and the Chicago Cubs ok but the totems [TS]

  that had been the longest time since [TS]

  they wanna I think Cleveland was like 60 [TS]

  or 70 years and the Chicago Cubs had one [TS]

  of over a hundred years and there's lots [TS]

  of backstories to it this is great curse [TS]

  that was stopping and winning at home [TS]

  they look like they blow this one as [TS]

  well there were 31 down in the series [TS]

  they came back to make it 3 all so i [TS]

  went to game 7 and then they went up in [TS]

  game 7 and had absolutely in the bag and [TS]

  somehow they managed to completely blow [TS]

  and completely lost their laid so it [TS]

  went to extra innings and then they [TS]

  finally won in extra innings in the 10th [TS]

  innings like this game 7 of the World [TS]

  Series I think was a great advertisement [TS]

  for baseball [TS]

  like if you didn't enjoy that game than [TS]

  you you are incapable of enjoying [TS]

  baseball because it was such a great [TS]

  game is so thrilling had stories within [TS]

  stories there was so much going on i [TS]

  loved it [TS]

  seriously i was on such a high at the [TS]

  end of that game and I felt so good [TS]

  about the world and i had the biggest [TS]

  smile on my face watching it at the end [TS]

  and were you in the actual stadium for [TS]

  the superbowl not the super portside the [TS]

  world cup now that it's shall cut now [TS]

  look series i like it was okay was in [TS]

  Cleveland I was in California you were [TS]

  describing it as though you were there [TS]

  well I felt like I was there but like [TS]

  you're saying you were so glad that you [TS]

  were in America SI mentally presume that [TS]

  you were at this place but you were [TS]

  watching it on TV so you could have just [TS]

  as well but in the UK [TS]

  yeah but it's different when you're [TS]

  watching it in america is the different [TS]

  it's a bit different it's a good [TS]

  different well i wasn't i was in America [TS]

  for the election and that felt different [TS]

  to and I could have been watching that [TS]

  from anywhere and i did mention to you [TS]

  in the last episode like I didn't know [TS]

  what I was going to do for the election [TS]

  day in the election night lose so i [TS]

  thought i'd share bit of my election [TS]

  experience with you know what is it like [TS]

  have no idea [TS]

  well kind of make a couple of [TS]

  observations about election time in [TS]

  America please go ahead you have the [TS]

  floor i was in berkeley jose california [TS]

  the whole time so no it's different [TS]

  everywhere you go [TS]

  but there's a couple of things that [TS]

  struck me as strange blue one of them [TS]

  was obviously concurrent with all the [TS]

  elections that are going on for [TS]

  President and Senate and all this sort [TS]

  of stuff they have these propositions [TS]

  hmm no changes to local laws in the [TS]

  state and stuff like that [TS]

  Lou you know prop 53 or prop 28 you know [TS]

  we're going to legalize mowing your lawn [TS]

  on a thursday whatever it is but the [TS]

  thing is obviously they have at some [TS]

  point and obviously it's on the balance [TS]

  i presume loop at the way it's [TS]

  advertised on TV and there's like [TS]

  saturation advertising for or against [TS]

  these propositions Lou the ads never [TS]

  tell you what the propositions are and [TS]

  you get these really a motive ads saying [TS]

  vote yes to prop 43 otherwise all your [TS]

  kids are gonna die and the world is [TS]

  gonna be terrible right or vote no to [TS]

  prop 33 because everyone who's right [TS]

  thinking would you know and they really [TS]

  haven't you heard on voting yes or no to [TS]

  these propositions and they tell you the [TS]

  numbers and I never tell you what they [TS]

  are so if you weren't like really into [TS]

  politics are into the news or your [TS]

  visitor like me you have no idea what [TS]

  they're telling you to do and i found a [TS]

  really confusing experience this is one [TS]

  of those moments where I find you very [TS]

  charming Brady because I feel like [TS]

  you're coming at this from the angle [TS]

  that the purpose of these things is to [TS]

  inform you as opposed to their real [TS]

  purpose which is simply to just plant an [TS]

  association in your mind I would almost [TS]

  guarantee that an advertisement that [TS]

  doesn't tell you the details of the [TS]

  proposition it just simply tells you [TS]

  vote Yes or vote no is more effective [TS]

  than advertisement that explains to you [TS]

  what the proposition is and then why you [TS]

  should vote Yes or vote now I feel like [TS]

  I'd be shocked if that isn't true just [TS]

  like vote no on 47 [TS]

  I bet that's hugely effective and [TS]

  whoever is funding the campaign's behind [TS]

  the propositions wants to win [TS]

  I feel like I would remember whether it [TS]

  was good or bad though because of I have [TS]

  no context i'd walk into the both and [TS]

  I'd be r-47 I've seen lots of ads about [TS]

  that is that the one I'm supposed to [TS]

  vote yes too or no I don't even know is [TS]

  that the good with the bad one and I [TS]

  wouldn't recognize it from the ads [TS]

  because I don't associate the ads with [TS]

  the content of the proposition because i [TS]

  don't know what the proposition says I'm [TS]

  supposed to vote against the medicine 10 [TS]

  i'm supposed to vote for the death [TS]

  penalty I get that but just calling them [TS]

  by their numbers [TS]

  just baffling but have you ever seen the [TS]

  way these things are actually worded [TS]

  like people sometimes post images of the [TS]

  propositions and they're almost always [TS]

  these crazy triple negative sentences [TS]

  are ready like you even if you're trying [TS]

  to read it and again i don't think it's [TS]

  an accident you can write a clear [TS]

  sentence but these things are written [TS]

  intentionally opaque and difficult to [TS]

  understand ways [TS]

  yeah and then I think combine that with [TS]

  an enormous amount of advertising [TS]

  usually on one side was like great most [TS]

  people if they try to read it there [TS]

  confused and then they don't vote and [TS]

  enough people just have like an [TS]

  association of like oh this is bad it's [TS]

  written in ambiguous way so that however [TS]

  they read it they feel like oh yes the [TS]

  bad outcome is the one that I don't want [TS]

  and then they just vote yes or no [TS]

  because they were told to do that and [TS]

  then the thing passes era that's [TS]

  American democracy [TS]

  another thing that I found very strange [TS]

  about election day in the u.s. like I [TS]

  remember what the proper name for is in [TS]

  the UK but on election day in the UK the [TS]

  media is not allowed to talk about the [TS]

  election pretty much there are really [TS]

  strict rules yeah they're allowed to say [TS]

  that the election is happening Lulu and [TS]

  they're allowed to show footage of the [TS]

  leaders of the party casting their vote [TS]

  but there's not allowed to be political [TS]

  coverage to the point where it's strange [TS]

  blue like you watch the news or listen [TS]

  to the radio in the UK on election day [TS]

  and it's like the most boring used a [TS]

  volt I'm loose and then as soon as the [TS]

  polls close across the country [TS]

  the gloves are off and the exit polls [TS]

  come out and it's like the usual [TS]

  wall-to-wall blanket coverage blue but [TS]

  this is not the case in the u.s. know [TS]

  which in itself is strange [TS]

  yes that's the thing that makes it [TS]

  doubly strange is if you're in [TS]

  California the polls have closed across [TS]

  the East Coast and we're already seeing [TS]

  results and like I was watching CNN are [TS]

  starting to see results coming through [TS]

  and then I went off walking summer which [TS]

  I'll talk about in a second and I was [TS]

  walking past polling boats in California [TS]

  where people were walking in and casting [TS]

  their votes i was watching them vote and [TS]

  yet they like me must have been knowing [TS]

  half the results were coming out it was [TS]

  already clear which way things are [TS]

  starting to Lane like I know in the case [TS]

  of California doesn't make a big [TS]

  difference because of the nature of Paul [TS]

  Dixon California but still I still find [TS]

  it strange that i could be listening and [TS]

  watching people basically saying this is [TS]

  looking like who's gonna win [TS]

  Lou and there are other people who still [TS]

  walking into the booth to cast their [TS]

  votes [TS]

  it was like that again it seems crazy to [TS]

  me [TS]

  I just because I'm not used to I guess [TS]

  this is the point at which i will remind [TS]

  you about the existence of hawaii for [TS]

  hawaii going out there in the pacific [TS]

  ocean in the middle of nowhere [TS]

  not many electoral votes to begin with [TS]

  but also because of this time zone thing [TS]

  it's like well I mean like obviously [TS]

  there are not a huge number of people [TS]

  living in Hawaii compared to the rest of [TS]

  America so it's like statistically the [TS]

  election should essentially be decided [TS]

  by the time ye rolls around and also [TS]

  Hawaii votes in a particular way almost [TS]

  all the time like I understand [TS]

  conceptually why this would happen but [TS]

  I'm i think this whole system is crazy [TS]

  like I really feel like there's this [TS]

  weird rush like people want the news [TS]

  right now and since America is so big [TS]

  you can have the new start to roll out [TS]

  over time like if I was Emperor here i [TS]

  would make it the rule like hey no [TS]

  reporting until the polls close in [TS]

  hawaii i don't care you gotta keep a lid [TS]

  on it people [TS]

  yeah good luck with that like if it's a [TS]

  weird news day I think that's a small [TS]

  price to pay for everybody feeling more [TS]

  like their vote matters right [TS]

  yeah but I found that strange so I ended [TS]

  up because I didn't want to sit in and [TS]

  watch CNN or not because I thought that [TS]

  would be a bit set and I thought I mean [TS]

  America I'm you know for an election it [TS]

  might never happen again let's make [TS]

  something other a lot of teams actually [TS]

  invited me to parties [TS]

  oh yeah sorry if I didn't reply people i [TS]

  was busy but I appreciate the invite but [TS]

  what I did was I went I would accept an [TS]

  invitation from a friend to go to like [TS]

  an election watching party at a local [TS]

  theater in Berkeley is that you know an [TS]

  amateur theatre company i had MSNBC on a [TS]

  big screen and where people normally sit [TS]

  to watch the play [TS]

  everyone was just sitting watching and I [TS]

  was like selling drinks and pizza and [TS]

  stuff like that and it was like a big [TS]

  get together and it was actually quite a [TS]

  nice thing that's interesting [TS]

  yeah and i was told it would be quite [TS]

  nice and had been nice and other years i [TS]

  guess the only problem is [TS]

  I don't want to get all political but [TS]

  obviously an amateur theatre group in [TS]

  berkeley going to haha left-leaning go [TS]

  what Democrats supporting and it seems [TS]

  very unlikely to me [TS]

  yeah and obviously as it became clear [TS]

  that the Republican candidate was going [TS]

  to be the one to win there was actually [TS]

  quite a lot of emotion and there were [TS]

  lots of crying people actually got a [TS]

  little lesson at one point will kind of [TS]

  left eventually i like it i like the [TS]

  idea of you slowly walking to the door [TS]

  as with this evening for grabs its [TS]

  spirit miss but Mike's build the sadness [TS]

  there might still be at the supporters [TS]

  of the democratic candidate there was [TS]

  one funny moment and that was I was [TS]

  nearly out of phone charged balloon so I [TS]

  borrowed someone's charger and I went [TS]

  out to the foyer of the theater and [TS]

  found a plug and i plugged in blue and [TS]

  next to me was another powerpoint with a [TS]

  phone charged already there and this guy [TS]

  walked up to her and said I does anyone [TS]

  mind here if I use this charger and one [TS]

  of the people in the lobby said I think [TS]

  you can i think thats Brady's and I'm [TS]

  like no I'm here with this one and then [TS]

  I realized they were talking about [TS]

  another Brady and I said is there [TS]

  another Brady here and I said yeah I [TS]

  said we're we're and they said our she's [TS]

  just over there it was a lady Brady lady [TS]

  bringing a lady Brady is an art that [TS]

  woman over there the check and she came [TS]

  over as it is your name Brady she said [TS]

  yes haha took pictures were there and [TS]

  everything it was great [TS]

  I so rarely the people called brady and [TS]

  I've definitely never met a lady Brady [TS]

  before [TS]

  wow that was brilliant i feel like she [TS]

  has to always be called lady bree like [TS]

  that's fantastic [TS]

  ya ali Brady i tweeted a picture with [TS]

  their i think i missed it i didn't [TS]

  expect you say oh yeah the alert came up [TS]

  like I get on there that's when you send [TS]

  a tweet Brady I've got a notification [TS]

  that all my devices for your tweets yeah [TS]

  and I certainly don't go through the [TS]

  equivalent of manic depressive faces on [TS]

  Twitter like desert incredible [TS]

  overabundance desert is exactly what the [TS]

  swamp man glad I think I already think [TS]

  that he's lady ready hang on [TS]

  look at that lady brady and [TS]

  in trademark Brady style you're pointing [TS]

  at her because I yeah how do you feel [TS]

  about there being a lady Brady I think [TS]

  it's pretty it now loved it it made my I [TS]

  think this is the possibility to catch [TS]

  on i think any teams out there expecting [TS]

  a girl you know but reading on the list [TS]

  boy [TS]

  yes or a boy i'm sorry i'm cool with I [TS]

  didn't mean to raise your hackles there [TS]

  i don't mind that it's like both but I [TS]

  don't to become just a woman's name [TS]

  I'd like it to remain both you know this [TS]

  is how this goes though right there's [TS]

  actual demographic information on this [TS]

  so this woman is the tipping point if [TS]

  not the tipping point she's the tip of [TS]

  the iceberg [TS]

  I guess maybe that's the thing she is [TS]

  that the progenitor yeah i've written a [TS]

  couple places that there's real [TS]

  demographic data to support this that [TS]

  this is a really common [TS]

  this is a really common [TS]

  phenomenon that essentially the names [TS]

  only ever go one way that like a male [TS]

  name will become a gender ambiguous name [TS]

  like Leslie right and then it [TS]

  transitions over time to end up being [TS]

  almost exclusively female named famously [TS]

  like Jane what I know would never come [TS]

  back it would never come back to the man [TS]

  said that yeah that essentially this is [TS]

  a one-way street only for whatever [TS]

  reason right there [TS]

  oh great yeah lady ready somehow seems a [TS]

  little bit more sinister now this is why [TS]

  i was asking right is is like you're [TS]

  going to be in the retirement home and [TS]

  people are going to be more like they'll [TS]

  be like oh a man Brady i mentioned [TS]

  Leslie because one of the places where i [TS]

  grew up we had a neighbor who was an old [TS]

  guy called Leslie and I was just always [TS]

  wear like oh he was on the end of that [TS]

  demographic shift that leslie nielsen [TS]

  like you [TS]

  yeah he's it seemed totally fine to have [TS]

  an older guy with the name leslie but it [TS]

  would seem very strange to have a like a [TS]

  little kid with the name leslie and so [TS]

  this is where you're going to be Brady [TS]

  in the retirement home [TS]

  oh yes look at this charming man from [TS]

  another time with the name Brady lets [TS]

  you put your future [TS]

  uh I hadn't thought about that that's [TS]

  changed everything [TS]

  she seems a little bit even now named [TS]

  stealing now if that's what happens [TS]

  that's what happens you can't control [TS]

  her breathing is going to happen I never [TS]

  liked my name anyway so i have no great [TS]

  attachment to her i told you i always [TS]

  want to change my name and I was growing [TS]

  up did you want to tell the people what [TS]

  you want to change your name to yeah I [TS]

  wanted to be called Jason Jason always [TS]

  said when I was enough i'm going to [TS]

  change my name to Jason because I [TS]

  thought it was such a cool name [TS]

  mhm but by the time I turned 18 it was [TS]

  that on my driver's license and stuff so [TS]

  I thought our yeah stick with brady [TS]

  bunch of paperwork bunch of hassle [TS]

  who wants to do that and I hate to say [TS]

  it but like you seem like Brady to me i [TS]

  can't imagine you as Jason I will always [TS]

  say if you ever want to change your name [TS]

  to Jason or Leslie or whatever I will [TS]

  support you one hundred percent of the [TS]

  time and i will call you Jason Leslie [TS]

  from now on but you seem like breeding [TS]

  me [TS]

  yeah I think that's pretty much your [TS]

  hand [TS]

  I think I've imprinted on the name so i [TS]

  quite enjoyed that aspect of the [TS]

  mountain but then that was it that was [TS]

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  you do for the election to do sleep [TS]

  through or did you wake up to the news [TS]

  how'd your lecture not player i just [TS]

  went to bed right here yet you seem [TS]

  surprised [TS]

  I don't like to stay up late i'm not [TS]

  gonna stay up for new years if I can [TS]

  possibly avoid it but sometimes social [TS]

  engagements require me to stay after [TS]

  news [TS]

  alright it's looking at you [TS]

  so I just went to bed and then I usually [TS]

  have off line mornings like I try very [TS]

  hard never to go on the internet until [TS]

  you know at least lunchtime which is [TS]

  very effective for me but I figured like [TS]

  I wake up in the morning this will just [TS]

  be perfect because every time i've woken [TS]

  up in the morning when there's an [TS]

  American election in the UK it's like a [TS]

  great with all done I just went to bed [TS]

  there's nothing to even look at there [TS]

  was no news i wake up now I just get to [TS]

  find out the answer and so that was my [TS]

  experience this time around right now [TS]

  since the election anyone who follows [TS]

  you on twitter [TS]

  mmm can't help but have noticed and i [TS]

  certainly noticed that you've been a [TS]

  right grumpy ass you haven't been [TS]

  yourself only want to talk about this [TS]

  what's been up man but see i think i [TS]

  have been entirely myself I think this [TS]

  behavior is not surprising [TS]

  no such an emotional reaction to an [TS]

  issue like too much emotion new should [TS]

  be typical ok so i guess the thing that [TS]

  i found just incredibly unbelievable as [TS]

  the morning went on is like I woke up [TS]

  and I was like okay that's the news but [TS]

  then it became clear that the thing that [TS]

  I thought would never happen again in my [TS]

  lifetime was going to happen which was [TS]

  that the winner of the popular vote was [TS]

  going to lose the electoral college and [TS]

  I just thought yeah I cannot I cannot [TS]

  believe that this is going to happen [TS]

  again in my lifetime if you look at the [TS]

  actual dates it's like a couple of times [TS]

  in the eighteen hundreds and then 2,000 [TS]

  in the 2,000 cases even like a [TS]

  complicated case with the supreme court [TS]

  gets involved like you know it's like a [TS]

  standard case and so that like how i [TS]

  live the rest of my life where whoever [TS]

  wins the popular vote almost certainly [TS]

  win the presidency as well like we won't [TS]

  end up in this bizarro situation that [TS]

  the electoral college can bring about [TS]

  but now here we are again by my count [TS]

  it's the fourth time this has happened [TS]

  and I was just like I could not deal [TS]

  with that [TS]

  I just the thing is pretty it's like I [TS]

  don't know if you're aware but I have a [TS]

  thing about elections [TS]

  I know you like him tonight you [TS]

  interested in them ok but again i don't [TS]

  find elections interesting i don't find [TS]

  election campaigns interesting for the [TS]

  most part I don't find the particulars [TS]

  of politics interesting for the most [TS]

  part i always had this feeling like if [TS]

  we can't even get the most basic parts [TS]

  right ish i feel like i don't even [TS]

  understand what we're talking about here [TS]

  and so this was just a case of like I [TS]

  cannot believe I am facing another one [TS]

  of these situations in the electoral [TS]

  college in my life so that threw me [TS]

  quite off kilter as I was like a crazy [TS]

  person refreshing the votes on the New [TS]

  York Times page for watching the count [TS]

  for the popular vote command like I'm [TS]

  totally fine with understanding like the [TS]

  way the elections run like when people [TS]

  run because the Electoral College is [TS]

  that the way it is like I understand all [TS]

  this I'm totally fine with this but it's [TS]

  just like oh my god here we go again [TS]

  can't believe it's happening so I [TS]

  remember your original Electoral College [TS]

  video I haven't watched it for a long [TS]

  time but I army might I haven't watched [TS]

  it for a long time but if five years ago [TS]

  i did watch your your new one that you [TS]

  made and they're like a pharmacist video [TS]

  i have watched it was our was around [TS]

  here's the thing that people should [TS]

  understand like i did not think that was [TS]

  necessarily a good video that was just [TS]

  one of these things of like this thing [TS]

  is on my mind and I will go totally [TS]

  insane if I don't just write something [TS]

  and produce it and animated and put it [TS]

  up right it was like I will go crazy if [TS]

  i don't do this so great [TS]

  all that aside that I do want to just [TS]

  get a little bit of a total college [TS]

  views from here and I know I'm kind of [TS]

  the guy who's brought a knife to a [TS]

  gunfight here because you are quite [TS]

  knowledgeable on the issue of the [TS]

  electoral college I would say I'm not [TS]

  but I kind of know how it works [TS]

  em and i am yet to be persuaded that [TS]

  it's the worst thing in the world I [TS]

  would say that I am persuadable both [TS]

  ways because i do not believe at the [TS]

  moment that it is necessarily the case [TS]

  that the person who wins the popular [TS]

  vote who was voted for by the most [TS]

  people should necessarily win the [TS]

  presidency [TS]

  ok so lay out your reasoning for that [TS]

  ok it's gonna come out a bit muddled ok [TS]

  and it may involve analogy it may not it [TS]

  may involve things that are wrong [TS]

  it may not edit mode for bigger it so it [TS]

  may not look but can I start with an [TS]

  analogy please go ahead [TS]

  let's go back to the world series of [TS]

  baseball ok which is a best-of-seven [TS]

  competition now you can win the world [TS]

  series by winning four games of baseball [TS]

  by one run 20 right and the other three [TS]

  games you could lose a hundred runs 20 [TS]

  so overall you could concede 300 runs [TS]

  and score for and still be the [TS]

  legitimate winner of the World Series [TS]

  blue and some people say gosh if you can [TS]

  see the 300 runs in three games of [TS]

  baseball you probably not a very good [TS]

  baseball team but I can make the [TS]

  argument that in fact that could be [TS]

  quite a legitimate think and if you're [TS]

  good enough to win four games and the [TS]

  other team was only good enough to win [TS]

  three games they could have been [TS]

  different conditions that favor the [TS]

  other team could have been home games [TS]

  and away games that i can make an [TS]

  argument although i've used such an [TS]

  exaggerated case you can win the World [TS]

  Series quite legitimately and by far and [TS]

  away not score the most runs and i'll be [TS]

  very comfortable with who won [TS]

  well I think the same could be true of [TS]

  elections i think if you have decided [TS]

  for whatever reasons and we can get into [TS]

  federal stuff and state stuff if you [TS]

  want but for whatever reasons you have a [TS]

  portion waiting two different people's [TS]

  votes i can think of quite legitimate [TS]

  reasons to a portion more votes to [TS]

  certain groups than others who you could [TS]

  also argue against it and I could be [TS]

  persuaded otherwise but I could say you [TS]

  know the president is not just the [TS]

  president of like people they're also [TS]

  president of vast tracts of land and [TS]

  they are responsible for animals and [TS]

  mountains and rivers and small villages [TS]

  and things like that and you could say [TS]

  well hang on maybe we need to do [TS]

  something to protect certain groups are [TS]

  in power certain groups more and not [TS]

  of all the power to the dense huge [TS]

  cities full of people who haven't come [TS]

  up with good arguments work so i can see [TS]

  easily envisaged a system whereby your [TS]

  apportioning waiting two votes em in [TS]

  fact I saw a lot of people make an [TS]

  argument during break sir and I'm not [TS]

  saying necessarily support this argument [TS]

  but I saw the argument made that how [TS]

  come someone who's 90 years old and [TS]

  about to die had their bricks and vote [TS]

  count for the same amount of someone who [TS]

  was 18 and has to live with only [TS]

  questions for you know 60 years you can [TS]

  argue that both ways but it's still [TS]

  there is an argument for portioning [TS]

  weight and it feels to me like for [TS]

  whatever reasons the electoral college [TS]

  has a portion to wait two votes and we [TS]

  can have a discussion about whether or [TS]

  not they should have done that or not [TS]

  but at the moment they have done [TS]

  look and if that's the system that [TS]

  everyone has got I'm cool with it [TS]

  no it just works that way the system [TS]

  doesn't give every one person to vote [TS]

  the same pair as the others and just [TS]

  like in the World Series some runs count [TS]

  for more than others those one run [TS]

  scored and those one more victories [TS]

  counted for a lot more than all that [TS]

  face two runs that scored in the three [TS]

  games you lost who so I can kind of be [TS]

  persuaded over the other argument you [TS]

  made about the electoral college in your [TS]

  most recent video was to do with the [TS]

  actual voters and faithless voters and [TS]

  things like that [TS]

  that's a kind of another argument I [TS]

  think that's a bit of a red herring [TS]

  myself that never has been an issue even [TS]

  in the four cases where things have gone [TS]

  against the popular vote the faithless [TS]

  voters has never been a problem and I [TS]

  can't imagine the country ever letting [TS]

  it be a problem i think it would get [TS]

  slapped down if someone changed the [TS]

  result of the election by being a [TS]

  faithless votes in the electoral college [TS]

  and that they should probably fix the [TS]

  role because it's just a bit messy and [TS]

  antiquated but i think it's a red [TS]

  herring in the debate about yes or no to [TS]

  the electoral college I think the real [TS]

  discussion to be had is where everyone's [TS]

  of actually count the same that's where [TS]

  I'm coming from [TS]

  ok are you sitting down bringing yep i [TS]

  agree with everything that you said I [TS]

  even think that's a perfectly good [TS]

  analogy [TS]

  the thing about the electoral college [TS]

  that is very hard to convey [TS]

  even in the longer older videos that [TS]

  I've done is like I will agree that the [TS]

  electoral college in isolation is not [TS]

  necessarily a problem [TS]

  the thing that I originally was planning [TS]

  to do this year for the election instead [TS]

  of doing the rules for rulers video [TS]

  which took it over was I kind of wanted [TS]

  to do a here are all of the particular [TS]

  problems in American democracy video [TS]

  because my feeling is really like none [TS]

  of them on their own are really deal [TS]

  breakers but it's everything put [TS]

  together ends up becoming a real problem [TS]

  and I think the Electoral College is a [TS]

  fantastic example of an interesting [TS]

  different thing that the United States [TS]

  does that's a layer on top of all of [TS]

  these other layers that exists and that [TS]

  I think ends up making things worse [TS]

  like I mean it's almost like you could [TS]

  have a very parliamentary system where [TS]

  everybody elects their local [TS]

  representatives and then the members of [TS]

  parliament select the Prime Minister [TS]

  stroke president and like that's a very [TS]

  different kind of system and the idea of [TS]

  the Electoral College is almost that [TS]

  that people are extending electors to go [TS]

  represents them and elect who the leader [TS]

  of the executive is going to be like [TS]

  it's actually not that far off of a [TS]

  parliamentary system sort of but i don't [TS]

  have necessarily have problems with [TS]

  parliamentary systems but i think it's [TS]

  it's a question of the way all of these [TS]

  various things interlock with each other [TS]

  which is part of what always makes it a [TS]

  very difficult thing to talk about that [TS]

  you're going down the red herring road [TS]

  again they're gray when you start [TS]

  talking like that like this antiquated [TS]

  extra layer of abstraction where these [TS]

  faceless people have to like rubber [TS]

  stamp for the people chose I'd mean is [TS]

  weird and unnecessary little bit like [TS]

  saying how like you know this is almost [TS]

  like a parliament maybe it was once like [TS]

  that but that's clearly not what I has [TS]

  been for a very long time [TS]

  oh yeah i think when you start catching [TS]

  it like that [TS]

  and I think you're like stirring up the [TS]

  wrong debate you know this is just some [TS]

  anachronism some weird system that they [TS]

  used to transfer what happens in the [TS]

  election to some kind of formal process [TS]

  for the president being appointed which [TS]

  is stupid but I when you rile people up [TS]

  with that I think it's a red herring and [TS]

  so again I i agree i'm not actually [TS]

  saying that is like a parliamentary [TS]

  system understand like the structure is [TS]

  vaguely like this same idea right and [TS]

  there's nothing necessarily wrong with a [TS]

  parliamentary system so there could be a [TS]

  version of the electoral college that's [TS]

  just totally fine and unremarkable and [TS]

  boring but I'm just saying some of the [TS]

  particulars of it are frustrating and I [TS]

  mean I guess that the thing that we [TS]

  should get out of the way we like very [TS]

  clearly is you know it's so funny like [TS]

  you make a video and it's always [TS]

  interesting to see how people react to [TS]

  the things that you say and like part of [TS]

  my frustration which I thought I made [TS]

  really clear was actually with some [TS]

  friends I had some personal [TS]

  conversations with who were wanting me [TS]

  to make a video about how the election [TS]

  result can be overturned with faithless [TS]

  electors you know I ended up getting a [TS]

  kind of inundation from a lot of people [TS]

  that I know personally about this I kind [TS]

  of feel you didn't make that video great [TS]

  I feel that it was a very strong element [TS]

  of i would say scaremongering little bit [TS]

  sowing the seed into people's brain that [TS]

  legitimate elections could be overturned [TS]

  by renegades and you sort of said that [TS]

  should never happen but I think you [TS]

  differently so to say that it was a [TS]

  possibility but maybe I watched through [TS]

  the wrong prison I know you made other [TS]

  points in the video but I came away from [TS]

  that video thinking that you were [TS]

  selling that Sade what I was trying to [TS]

  say there is like the electoral college [TS]

  has the option of this totally crazy [TS]

  function now i agree with you that it is [TS]

  incredibly unlikely that it is going to [TS]

  occur [TS]

  there's also believe it or not there is [TS]

  a whole other extra crazy layer on top [TS]

  of this which is fast just to walk [TS]

  through the shockingly unlikely scenario [TS]

  electoral college vote happens in [TS]

  December let's say faithless electors [TS]

  swing it and they choose a [TS]

  different candidate when that happens in [TS]

  January there was also an official part [TS]

  of the process where Congress actually [TS]

  certifies and counts the balance from [TS]

  the electoral college but during that [TS]

  stage any senator or representative is [TS]

  allowed to object to the result and if [TS]

  that occurs it starts getting really [TS]

  foggy here because it hasn't happened [TS]

  before there's a little bit of like what [TS]

  exactly is the process but the probable [TS]

  outcome is that the newly incoming [TS]

  Congress then votes and decides on who [TS]

  the president is going to be alright but [TS]

  all of this i completely agree is very [TS]

  unlikely to happen those two things here [TS]

  like this to me seems like an obvious [TS]

  thing right like you shouldn't have [TS]

  systems where there's even a small [TS]

  probability of a ridiculous thing [TS]

  happening and I think like if you can't [TS]

  close these loopholes you are [TS]

  intentionally just waiting for trouble [TS]

  and I think this election is a perfect [TS]

  storm of potential trouble like if [TS]

  anything crazy is ever going to happen [TS]

  it's this election you're saying because [TS]

  like such an unusual candidate wanna [TS]

  that if any people are ever going to try [TS]

  to invoke some of these weird loopholes [TS]

  it might be this one [TS]

  exactly this is the time if there's any [TS]

  chance it's this time now as every [TS]

  single day that goes on i think that [TS]

  chance decreases i would say like it's [TS]

  the highest it's ever been in American [TS]

  history and I feel like I'm so against [TS]

  this idea i'm against this even being a [TS]

  thing that's possible and i find it [TS]

  furious that people seem to be ok with [TS]

  system was like add as a crazy thing [TS]

  that can happen but it'll never happen [TS]

  right but if you wait long enough crazy [TS]

  things do happen and so you should try [TS]

  to simplify and clarify the system and [TS]

  so like I was just seeing a lot of [TS]

  people like calling for faithless [TS]

  electors and it's like yes this is [TS]

  technically within the rules [TS]

  it's kind of like in the next video [TS]

  where I said like you know if the [TS]

  government doesn't do brexit it's kind [TS]

  of going against the idea of democracy [TS]

  like I was trying to say this a similar [TS]

  thing in this video of like this has [TS]

  never happened and it totally shouldn't [TS]

  happen [TS]

  and I think my exact words were then [TS]

  like but it's crazy to leave in place [TS]

  for future elections a system that [TS]

  benefits nobody writes something like [TS]

  that [TS]

  okay great i'm with you this is kind of [TS]

  a possible way that that could have been [TS]

  perceived though and maybe I perceive it [TS]

  depending on what you tell me later on [TS]

  he is using this doomsday scenario the [TS]

  red herring as i call it but you know [TS]

  something that is possible i feel that [TS]

  maybe some people think you're using [TS]

  this doomsday scenario to change the [TS]

  other aspect of the electoral college is [TS]

  like using that as the back door to [TS]

  change the other component that gives [TS]

  certain states more influence than other [TS]

  states it's like saying I can't win that [TS]

  argument so let me scare the bejesus out [TS]

  of people with this other argument are [TS]

  faithless selectors and results being [TS]

  overturned and then once everyone says [TS]

  on your right the Electoral College is [TS]

  terrible [TS]

  then you change the other stuff and [TS]

  that's what I want to talk to you about [TS]

  like the million-dollar question silver [TS]

  bullet thing that I want to know from [TS]

  you is do you think everyone's vote [TS]

  should count the same for president [TS]

  let's get in just one second I do just [TS]

  want to address your previous point [TS]

  because in a sense you're right because [TS]

  so here's the thing the electoral [TS]

  college has this function where the [TS]

  person who wins the popular vote can [TS]

  lose the election [TS]

  yeah right and now when that happens it [TS]

  ends up being the case that the people [TS]

  whose candidate has just one like the [TS]

  Electoral College is amazing [TS]

  yeah i think this ends up becoming like [TS]

  a moderate reading of the actual rules [TS]

  and and I feel like rules mean anything [TS]

  you have to have a kind of [TS]

  fundamentalist reading of the rules and [TS]

  so if the rules say that faithless [TS]

  electors can overturn the results if [TS]

  you're a-ok with the first half of the [TS]

  list of rules that forms what the [TS]

  Electoral College is you have to be [TS]

  a-okay with the second half of what the [TS]

  electoral college says as possible and [TS]

  so I think each [TS]

  of those two halves end up creating a [TS]

  hole that is theoretically objectionable [TS]

  to everybody and that's why I'm trying [TS]

  to discuss it some people will be on the [TS]

  side of the popular winner should win [TS]

  the election and some people will say [TS]

  the election should never be overturned [TS]

  by bees electors like okay but that's [TS]

  what it is and the relative arguments [TS]

  about how likely one or the other are to [TS]

  occur [TS]

  I feel like all those are is discussions [TS]

  of what happens to be the current [TS]

  political system they're not discussions [TS]

  of the system in general in the abstract [TS]

  how does it actually work when you don't [TS]

  have a team to be rooting for [TS]

  that's the question that's like it's so [TS]

  impossible to separate in people's minds [TS]

  think about how this system works in [TS]

  general if you didn't have a side would [TS]

  you be okay with a system that allows [TS]

  the person who gets fewer votes to win [TS]

  and there are totally scenarios where [TS]

  that would be acceptable but are you [TS]

  also ok with a system that allows an [TS]

  unknown council the people to overturn [TS]

  that result like I just don't think [TS]

  anybody can agree to both halves of [TS]

  those alright I just think it's sort of [TS]

  doing the same thing over again there [TS]

  are two things going on here and I don't [TS]

  think the two particularly related other [TS]

  than being able to say there are two [TS]

  things that might be wrong with it [TS]

  I think the faithless selectors and the [TS]

  nature of the strangers forming the [TS]

  college and that is a whole separate [TS]

  argument and is muddying the waters and [TS]

  the more you clarified the more I feel [TS]

  like you're muddying up here I I [TS]

  understand what you said but I just [TS]

  don't understand how its arguing though [TS]

  because then it just seems to me like [TS]

  you're picking the parts that you like [TS]

  and ignoring the parts that you don't [TS]

  and so then all i hear is I like the [TS]

  system when it works in my favor I don't [TS]

  like the system when it couldn't [TS]

  possibly work in my favor but then it's [TS]

  like okay well now we're not discussing [TS]

  what a fair system is now we're just [TS]

  discussing how you personally benefit [TS]

  this time around and like that is [TS]

  actually the reason that i was i was so [TS]

  infuriated because I felt like a man [TS]

  alone in the world on Wednesday saying [TS]

  all this time around [TS]

  is benefiting this time around no one [TS]

  has ever benefited from faithless [TS]

  electors people have benefited from the [TS]

  confusion between winning the electoral [TS]

  college and winning the popular vote [TS]

  like that is an elephant in the room [TS]

  that needs to be discussed but this [TS]

  possibility of faithless elector yes [TS]

  it's an issue yes it's it's there but [TS]

  it's not the core of the argument it's [TS]

  like a plane is crashing because the [TS]

  engines have stopped working and you're [TS]

  also saying as a little crack in the tip [TS]

  of the wing that could also make the [TS]

  plane crash [TS]

  I'm saying let's do with the fact the [TS]

  engines aren't working [TS]

  can we learn this thing with or without [TS]

  engines is there a way around this what [TS]

  kind of engines do we need how do we [TS]

  save the plane and you're here saying oh [TS]

  yes but also there's a crack in the end [TS]

  of the wing okay once the engine [TS]

  situation is dealt with [TS]

  let's have a look at the crack in the [TS]

  wing because that's also a problem but [TS]

  at the moment we should be talking about [TS]

  the engines and I feel like the [TS]

  disparity between the Electoral College [TS]

  numbers and the popular vote is the [TS]

  engines of the plane and you're spending [TS]

  way too much time on the little crack in [TS]

  the wing [TS]

  I mean we're going to have to disagree [TS]

  on on this point I just think it really [TS]

  does matter and that otherwise you are [TS]

  only wanting to accept the rules when [TS]

  they work in your favor and you don't [TS]

  want to accept the rules when they don't [TS]

  work in your favor and that's why I was [TS]

  really frustrated with everybody on [TS]

  wednesday or whatever it was that the [TS]

  election results came out because I I [TS]

  felt like everybody just wanted things [TS]

  to go their way and nobody cared about [TS]

  the rules right if you were happy that [TS]

  the candidate one you were totally happy [TS]

  with the way the rules work if you [TS]

  didn't like the candidate who won then [TS]

  you were calling for faithless elector [TS]

  to overthrew the result that's why I was [TS]

  so upset I felt like I was just alone in [TS]

  the world like nobody cares if this is [TS]

  fair in the abstract everybody only [TS]

  cares that they win that their team wins [TS]

  and that's the thing that I hate the [TS]

  most about politics is it becomes sports [TS]

  right and everybody's just pulling for [TS]

  their team and they want to win no [TS]

  matter what it is i say the problem now [TS]

  what's the problem [TS]

  I think you are overhearing the people [TS]

  calling for faithful selectors there's a [TS]

  call for everything out there but i [TS]

  think that you're complaining about the [TS]

  disparity between the popular vote is [TS]

  way more the argument and [TS]

  think people are talking about then the [TS]

  faithless voters and if you think both [TS]

  things like have equal weighting and the [TS]

  people who lost trying to use the [TS]

  faithless voters as the back door [TS]

  I think you got that wrong but you [TS]

  understand i'm trying to tell the [TS]

  winning team they have a reason to be [TS]

  concerned too even though we benefited [TS]

  them but I think you're trying to trick [TS]

  the winning team there again I think [TS]

  you're trying to use it as a back door [TS]

  to get a wider issue we'll have to agree [TS]

  to disagree on this point i agree with [TS]

  you that both things the floor I Great [TS]

  War [TS]

  ok I agree that both me discussing but i [TS]

  think one is more important than the [TS]

  other and I think you're placing and you [TS]

  importance on the faithful interest [TS]

  problem with anything that American [TS]

  society needs to decide who is whether [TS]

  or not they're happy with the situation [TS]

  of popular verminous not becoming [TS]

  president that's what I'm really really [TS]

  need to decide and I wonder what you [TS]

  think about that ok so I'm going to try [TS]

  to describe the situation in a little [TS]

  bit of the abstract we don't get caught [TS]

  up in the details of the electoral [TS]

  college yeah who cares really [TS]

  right right doesn't matter so here is my [TS]

  view on it you have the competing needs [TS]

  of two different entities on one hand [TS]

  you have the competing needs of citizens [TS]

  and on the other hand you have the [TS]

  competing needs of the state's these are [TS]

  the two players in this game and it [TS]

  really is like a question of kind of [TS]

  governing preference which way you want [TS]

  those things to lead do you care more [TS]

  about the sovereignty of the states or [TS]

  do you care more about like the citizens [TS]

  as a whole and like I really don't think [TS]

  there's a correct answer to that i [TS]

  really think that's a bit of like a [TS]

  preference argument now the problem is [TS]

  here's what I think happened it's almost [TS]

  like an optical illusion that occurs in [TS]

  people's minds were discussing this [TS]

  so there is the very legitimate very [TS]

  real complaint that if you're just going [TS]

  by popular vote because America is so [TS]

  enormous you end up with just the city's [TS]

  controlling things and I don't think [TS]

  that's an illegitimate complaint and you [TS]

  also end up with just that this weird [TS]

  and real disparity especially in a [TS]

  country as big as America that it's like [TS]

  you have like this ocean [TS]

  of the rural and poking up in random [TS]

  locations is an urban archipelago right [TS]

  and like the cities have much more in [TS]

  common with each other than they [TS]

  necessarily do with their own States and [TS]

  the rural areas often have much more in [TS]

  common than they do with this state [TS]

  that's you know an hour's drive away and [TS]

  so there's this weird geographic [TS]

  fragmentation and I think it's totally [TS]

  legit for people who are not in the city [TS]

  to say like look at all of this land [TS]

  like look at all of this space this has [TS]

  to have some kind of waiting and [TS]

  balanced against the cities like I can [TS]

  understand that argument okay yeah and [TS]

  so here's where I think the reasoning [TS]

  then start to turn a little bit because [TS]

  what happens is the minority group which [TS]

  in this case is you know very close but [TS]

  let's just say it's rural citizens are [TS]

  in the minority or you know will [TS]

  essentially be soon and they say you [TS]

  know we should have more votes or are [TS]

  our votes should be weighted more in [TS]

  order to balance out the cities and that [TS]

  right there is the moment that I think [TS]

  there's a problem because there is [TS]

  actually a simpler fairer solution which [TS]

  is you have to require a supermajority [TS]

  you don't just require 50.0 Oh 1% of the [TS]

  votes if you want to say like look we [TS]

  need to have an elected leader who is [TS]

  going to be representing a lot of our [TS]

  people what you want to do then is say [TS]

  instead of giving this waiting [TS]

  differently which I think has a real [TS]

  unfair feeling and leads to strange [TS]

  results sometimes I think it's easier to [TS]

  say look the candidate has to win sixty [TS]

  percent of the ballots cast that's what [TS]

  you actually want because otherwise you [TS]

  end up with these weird situations where [TS]

  you end up with minority rule and people [TS]

  are always like Oh minority rule is [TS]

  awesome when it's me and it's like you [TS]

  know you doing this the wrong way if you [TS]

  want to protect a minority group in a [TS]

  voting bloc [TS]

  what you require is more consensus not [TS]

  less consensus so that's my feeling on [TS]

  this does that create a situation where [TS]

  because as I understand it great the [TS]

  electoral college [TS]

  waiting's a tweet from time to time as [TS]

  demographics change [TS]

  yes every 10 years with the sensors yet [TS]

  so with your suggestion here of this [TS]

  supermajority instead instead of waiting [TS]

  the votes just requiring the winner to [TS]

  get more votes right right a higher [TS]

  percentage of the vote yeah are you just [TS]

  creating a new number to be tweaked and [TS]

  as more and more people move to the [TS]

  cities and the rural areas get less and [TS]

  less dense you can have to say all we [TS]

  need to move this up to 61 or 62 now [TS]

  because it's 60 the city still just have [TS]

  complete control and oh now we gotta [TS]

  move it up to 64 because more and more [TS]

  people have moved into the city's it [TS]

  just feels like you're tweaking the [TS]

  numbers in a different way to have the [TS]

  electoral college does it [TS]

  this is totally what setting up a voting [TS]

  system is it's a question of which [TS]

  number are you going to tweak and I get [TS]

  driven kind of crazy when people want [TS]

  the people at want two things they want [TS]

  the system exactly as it is right now or [TS]

  they want the perfect alternative and [TS]

  it's like okay well you're never going [TS]

  to have a perfect alternative because [TS]

  fundamentally what governance is is [TS]

  compromised right it's just a question [TS]

  of how are we going to do this but some [TS]

  people are always going to be unhappy [TS]

  and so yes if you are looking at like a [TS]

  voting bloc and there's a bunch of [TS]

  people you want to have a supermajority [TS]

  for certain kinds of decisions and i [TS]

  think it's it's a fair system to say [TS]

  anything especially with like a [TS]

  presidential election even changing that [TS]

  number by like the candidate needs [TS]

  55-percent not fifty percent i think [TS]

  would wildly change the kind of [TS]

  candidates that you would end up getting [TS]

  hurt because you just need like a [TS]

  different kind of person to actually win [TS]

  that you need someone who actually [TS]

  appeals to a broad base of the [TS]

  population as opposed to people like [TS]

  save the Electoral College forces [TS]

  presidents to appeal to a broad wide [TS]

  range of the population but i think it [TS]

  is pretty clear in practice like that [TS]

  doesn't action [TS]

  we happen whereas even if you require a [TS]

  fifty-five percent supermajority in [TS]

  order to win i think that would have to [TS]

  change the way candidates run but yes I [TS]

  totally concede that that means in the [TS]

  future you are signing up to adjusting [TS]

  this one number but i think that's a [TS]

  clearer fair thing to adjust how much [TS]

  consensus do we require among the [TS]

  population to elect a president versus [TS]

  how much more should people's votes in [TS]

  Wyoming count than someone in Texas I [TS]

  like I think that's a fundamentally [TS]

  divisive and unfair argument to be [TS]

  having this magic number this [TS]

  supermajority number which would be twin [TS]

  time to time as the country changes how [TS]

  is that calculated like in simple terms [TS]

  how do you even arrive at that number [TS]

  but I don't know how the number would be [TS]

  arrived at this is where the debate [TS]

  would begin [TS]

  I think the simplest starting point [TS]

  would be to try to go around and say [TS]

  like okay what is the number of people [TS]

  who live in metro areas where in large [TS]

  metro areas and we're going to require [TS]

  the supermajority number to be larger [TS]

  than just these populations like [TS]

  whatever it is i expect in America that [TS]

  would be something like fifty five [TS]

  percent right it's not even like a huge [TS]

  gap just like more than our current [TS]

  system [TS]

  yeah so that's my viewpoint I just think [TS]

  it's kind of crazy when the argument [TS]

  starts out as we can't get everybody to [TS]

  agree and we need to protect the rights [TS]

  of the minority and like okay [TS]

  yes agree we're all on the same page so [TS]

  far so good and the way we do that is by [TS]

  making it so that the minority can elect [TS]

  someone who rules us all and it's like [TS]

  no no this is worse like this is worse [TS]

  I know you're concerned about rule of [TS]

  the majority but I don't see how rule of [TS]

  the minority is an appropriate solution [TS]

  i think rule of the supermajority is the [TS]

  appropriate solution for protecting [TS]

  minority rights of minority and he has [TS]

  that power when the majority split don't [TS]

  they like you make it sound like some [TS]

  little state decides the house election [TS]

  but that's only become the case because [TS]

  the Californians chose a Democrat and [TS]

  Texans chose a Republican and if those [TS]

  majorities got behind one candidate then [TS]

  the little state wouldn't even have a [TS]

  chance of having a Saturday the [TS]

  president said you just changed [TS]

  arguments here because now you're [TS]

  talking about States I'm simply talking [TS]

  about people voting and requiring a [TS]

  super majority of people voting and [TS]

  under this scenario everybody's vote is [TS]

  worth the same so someone in Hawaii [TS]

  their vote is worth just as much as [TS]

  someone in utah everybody's votes are [TS]

  the same and we're just requiring a [TS]

  higher threshold to actually be the [TS]

  victor [TS]

  that's a different thing from talking [TS]

  about a system where we're going to [TS]

  require States to win right like the [TS]

  totally different things don't you talk [TS]

  about minority state choosing someone [TS]

  right yeah sorry no i'm talking about [TS]

  the minority rural population right [TS]

  you're assuming that they are the [TS]

  minority population but this holds true [TS]

  for any electoral system like I think [TS]

  it's something that you can see in [TS]

  almost any country is this question of [TS]

  we need to decide how many people need [TS]

  to agree and lots of our political [TS]

  systems i personally think are [TS]

  intentionally designed so you can end up [TS]

  ruling with a small minority the systems [TS]

  are not designed to be fair you know [TS]

  this is a whole thing but i find it [TS]

  interesting when citizens themselves are [TS]

  arguing for this minority rule but they [TS]

  only ever argue for it when like they [TS]

  are the minority group that is going to [TS]

  end up ruling was like this is not how [TS]

  we run a civilization we need super [TS]

  majority consensus [TS]

  what are you thinking that breeding [TS]

  politics isn't it is like broken and the [TS]

  problem is you only get one chance to [TS]

  start these systems because it's pretty [TS]

  hard to change the midstream because [TS]

  it's it becomes or political the minute [TS]

  you start the system so [TS]

  the age-old problem isn't it you know [TS]

  when it's one of the ways why i am so [TS]

  dead-set in my videos to not talk about [TS]

  particular candidates or particular [TS]

  parties because this is the lesson that [TS]

  I learned in the very old now UK [TS]

  referendum on the alternative vote that [TS]

  if I could talk to people about the [TS]

  system in general [TS]

  almost everybody could agree on what was [TS]

  a fairer system but the moment people [TS]

  started thinking about their particular [TS]

  political party it was like it was [TS]

  amazing to see how people would suddenly [TS]

  change their position entirely be like [TS]

  no you know what this system that I [TS]

  agreed moments ago was terribly unfair [TS]

  actually I think it's the best system [TS]

  because I win under it I find that's so [TS]

  frustrating and so myopic right is that [TS]

  mistake you're making [TS]

  is that your downfall though because I [TS]

  feel a little bit like you're in a [TS]

  battle for hearts and minds here and [TS]

  you'd like people to see the right path [TS]

  and if they're watching some utopian [TS]

  cgpgrey video where politics doesn't [TS]

  exist and everything's perfect and [TS]

  idealized like you can win that argument [TS]

  you know because you're smart you were [TS]

  but the minute your argument falls into [TS]

  the real world where the argument [TS]

  actually does have to be one you say [TS]

  that it gets you know it it all gets [TS]

  drowned out by the shouting and the [TS]

  idiots don't you need to find a way to [TS]

  take this argument into the real world [TS]

  and persuade people it's not that it [TS]

  gets drowned out is that people are [TS]

  likely to revert to their previous [TS]

  position when they realize the thing [TS]

  that they agreed on was the fair system [TS]

  will disadvantage them in particular [TS]

  yeah i totally agree that this is a [TS]

  thing that people do and you know at [TS]

  least right now I'm still I'm still [TS]

  relatively riled up about that although [TS]

  just to be clear like at the time of [TS]

  this recording there are some reports [TS]

  that the popular vote win might switch [TS]

  because it is incredibly close like you [TS]

  know there's absentee ballots being [TS]

  counted as a whole bunch of stuff and [TS]

  and if that happens I will [TS]

  honest to god I will be relieved right [TS]

  that like the president one with the [TS]

  popular vote and the electoral college [TS]

  but like [TS]

  I don't care what your particular [TS]

  politics are that's better for everyone [TS]

  but it's like yes I am in a bit of an [TS]

  argument for hearts and minds on this [TS]

  and while i'm still relatively riled up [TS]

  about this and you know like putting out [TS]

  not great videos because I'm just like I [TS]

  gotta get out of my head i am aware [TS]

  that's thinking strategically there may [TS]

  come a time when I have to be more [TS]

  particular about this and I do have some [TS]

  thoughts rolling around in my head about [TS]

  like basically doing like some [TS]

  back-of-the-envelope calculations of [TS]

  like how many subscribers do i have in [TS]

  what states like with the YouTube [TS]

  demographics and it's like I was [TS]

  thinking about some things I got some [TS]

  plans like maybe four years isn't good [TS]

  but maybe eight years is perfect like I [TS]

  am totally aware of what you're saying [TS]

  that if it comes to an actual fight in [TS]

  the mud [TS]

  you have to be more specific and and [TS]

  that they may come you're running for [TS]

  president you go [TS]

  is that why you see how many years do [TS]

  you have to live in America to be [TS]

  eligible because you have to move back [TS]

  to do that [TS]

  uh yeah you have to live a certain [TS]

  number of years in a row in America is [TS]

  gonna be over 35 don't you but you've [TS]

  also gotta have lived in the country for [TS]

  yes that's right it's over 35 [TS]

  natural-born citizen and some number of [TS]

  years I forget exactly how many years [TS]

  but I i am giving no details of the [TS]

  vague ideas in my mind like I've been [TS]

  thinking about it all right I've been [TS]

  thinking about some things [TS]

  yeah well that's something to look [TS]

  forward to in eight years when we still [TS]

  doing hello internet you can tell me all [TS]

  about it [TS]

  oh yeah is that a promise we're still [TS]

  getting it was breeding I think this [TS]

  episode's gonna go is if we don't stop [TS]

  sewed so the elections have essentially [TS]

  ruined our black mirror discussion but [TS]

  for people who haven't done their [TS]

  homework it's good for you know how like [TS]

  when you haven't done your homework and [TS]

  then this like a fire alarm or something [TS]

  basically this has been a fire around [TS]

  for people who haven't [TS]

  that homework because yeah we have run [TS]

  out of time for black mare we started [TS]

  early because we knew that this might [TS]

  run long but we have run longer than we [TS]

  even plan for and we are frankly out of [TS]

  time so if you haven't done your [TS]

  homework [TS]

  it's going to be collected next time [TS]

  which will be a discussion about black [TS]

  mirror could watch it if you haven't [TS]

  we'll talk about it then if you have [TS]

  done your homework [TS]

  you're probably really pissed off at us [TS]

  right now but sorry [TS]

  yeah but you know you know lame cgp [TS]

  grumpy [TS]