H.I. #68: Project Revolution
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Brady do you want to tell the people
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about the secret project
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have you given a secret name because of
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secret projects not a secret project
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until it's got some pretentious name on
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one of your spreadsheets
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ah no actually can we quickly give it a
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name was a good code name for a project
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revolution is what i would call this one
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yes I was thinking revolver but
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revolution is good for many reasons
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that's the perfect name but now I did
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that come up with a secret code name for
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this one because this as with many
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things is one of your ideas that was
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births and so this was not on my project
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yeah I mean without wanting to say I'm
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too boastful this one has got my name
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written all over it hasn't it it does
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tell the people what we've been up to
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well I'm just cut to the chase we are
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releasing an exclusive hello Internet
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episode there is available on and only
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yeah everything is smile and laugh
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everytime i think about a podcast
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episode on a record
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it's podcasting getting back to its
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roots isn't it yes I believe my
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knowledge of history serves me correctly
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hear that the original podcast were
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distributed via vinyl records on and
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pony express our wax cylinder yeah i
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think that the other how podcasters of
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you are used to do this to be fair my
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wife played a pretty big role in the
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idea to she quite likes a vinyl music
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move so the idea came about that we
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should have an episode of Hello internet
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on vinyl and I was quite nervous about
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suggesting it to you because you don't
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seem like a vinyl kind of guy and I
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thought it was going to be a tough sell
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little and i have to say of all the
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crazy things that I've persuaded you to
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do this probably required the least
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effort you onboard very quickly i was on
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board very quickly because it was a good
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idea i get a lot of wacky Brady ideas
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but i thought this was funny i like the
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pitch of it immediately so when it's a
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good idea Brady I'm happy to go along
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ok so just so people know where things
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are at before we talk about vinyl in
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we have recorded the episode em it's
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fair to say it's not your typical hello
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Internet episodes in a gray like in some
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ways it is but otherwise it's a bit
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have you even listen to it yet what did
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you not listen to the broadcast i sent
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I haven't gotten a chance to look into
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the rough cut and had just sent me just
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yet but i was there during the recording
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some i'm aware of what you were you were
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at so we've recorded the episode i've
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edited it all together it's a very
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special episode and it's now off with
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the manufacturers and it's going to be
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pressed onto vinyl there's an album
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cover which incidentally is amazing
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mhm it's going to be available in
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November it takes awhile to get vinyl
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made on learning its bit of a palava to
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well this has been an incredibly long
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process because like how long was it ago
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that you actually pitch this to me is
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the thing that you wanted to do it feels
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like months and months and months ago I
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it just took you so long to actually
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decide to record it and decide what the
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episode would be about but we finally
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did and we finally did that about a
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mhm why is it together pretty quickly
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and then got the artwork made started
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talking to manufacturers and they have
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to be sent all this stuff it's a process
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that we did the episode I thought that
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was a pretty cool episode I listen back
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to and thought yet
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that's pretty good but when we got the
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artwork done by a professional and very
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good artist who you introduced me to
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when I saw the designs that was when I
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was like this is awesome
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that's when I got excited because he's
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done an amazing job yet it does look
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absolutely gorgeous will put a link in
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the show notes to the vinyl artwork do
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you want to tell people what we actually
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discussed sit because as people who
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listen to that episode might realize i
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was unfamiliar with what you proposed
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that we do in this final episode of
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Hello internet well I'm a little
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reluctant to give away too much at this
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stage I'd like to build that but i will
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say it is about music okay and our taste
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we discuss music quite a la M it
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actually gave me new insights into you
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gray like the musical and actually some
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of the music you told me about
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I have since been listening to oh wow
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that's interesting
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yeah i can say the reverse is not true
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there are a few questions that are going
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to come into people's heads and the main
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1i guess is why on earth are you doing
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such a stupid ridiculous thing I think
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it seems self-evidence why you would do
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this because it's fun it's intrinsically
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entertaining i just like to create
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things and this is true it's so rare
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that we create physical things and this
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struck me as a rare opportunity for us
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to like to make something real in the
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world that people could touch and put on
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the shelf and and handle and I don't
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know it excites me
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I was always fascinated by vinyl when I
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was young because you know my parents
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had a record player and also you know
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the idea of gold records when people win
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a gold record and have it framed and put
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up on the wall and I'm not the world's
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biggest music head so far from but just
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the idea of Records always appealed to
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me and also i think it's a nice thing to
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own up when I really like a band or I
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really like an album
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mmm even if I'm never going to listen to
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vinyl or CD or cassette I just like to
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own a copy of it and sure i might just
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continue listening to it now on my
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computer on my phone but I just like
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having on the Shelf something about that
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appeals to me how many vinyl records do
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you think you are
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of what hardly any we actually only got
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a new record player about two or three
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weeks ago so we have been buying a few
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records just lightly but before i did
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get the record player i did get the
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public service broadcasting album they
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sent me a copy of it so i have had that
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on the Shelf before I had my record
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player and I like them they're like
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little trophies that little ornaments
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and I don't know if it's true for
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podcast because i don't know how many
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podcasts have released vital episodes
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but I can imagine if you quite liked a
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podcast sure you know you can get a
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t-shirt or you can get a poster but i
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just thought if you're going to own
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something of a podcast you like what
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better thing to own then like physical
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incarnation of an episode of it and
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that's what we're making you can
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actually touch an episode you can hold
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it it can be yours you described it as a
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thing of beauty really
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the physical manifestation of our lovely
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voices etched onto the physical surface
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of an object to be scratched over by a
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needle to reproduce the sound final the
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big question is though who owns a record
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player but who can listen to this
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are we making something that no one can
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actually utilize I think the answer that
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is in many cases no one owns a record
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player and we are making something that
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people won't be able to play unless they
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go and visit uncle johns or grandma
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Jones and use her record player but i
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don't think that matters
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I think if I like something just like
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with race for space the album before i
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had a record player i wanted to own a
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vinyl copy of it because i liked the
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album and I think I would feel the same
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way about this i would like to have it
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even if I couldn't listen to it that
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sounds ridiculous and I thought maybe
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that is ridiculous but funnily enough
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and coincidentally I've just been
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reading a few articles in the last few
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days I was someone on the BBC website
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saying that something like fifty percent
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of vinyl albums that are purchased by
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people and never listened to on never
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played so I think that attitude that I
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have that these things can actually just
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be ornaments or little stylistic things
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is fleshed out by statistics as well so
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you think people are buying them as
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posters and like putting them up on
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their wall or his ownership objects
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never intending to actually listen to
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them i think that's true
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there was an article from April 2016 on
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the BBC website and we'll try and link
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to it and it's all about how music
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streaming has actually caused an upsurge
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in sales of vinyl and as all these
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numbers and stats and that but they're
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also just interviewing a few people
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about and they were talking to the
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student in manchester and he said I have
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vinyls in my room but it's more for de
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coeur I don't actually play them it just
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gives me an old-school vibe that's what
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vinyl is all about
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i get there i have one on my shelf the
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moment you know i bought the Star Wars
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trilogy on laserdiscs like from a
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secondhand shop I've never even owned a
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laserdisc player but I just liked like
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this retro coolness of owning the Star
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Wars trilogy on laserdisc and they just
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interesting objects maybe this is the
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same thing and we've deliberately made
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this hello Internet album look
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indirect right when you say you know why
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i made it does the blacks from another
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time did I show you my original design
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of the album cover
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I've just sent you my original sketch of
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what I wanted like my vision for what
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the output look like just to share the
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different stream what I came up with and
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whatnot just gonna be okay i never saw
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this is this but look at you can see my
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vision but you can see the vision there
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ok that will include this in the show
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notes because yes this is if you imagine
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like Brady is a three-year-old child
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holding a crayon into hands drawing what
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he imagines an album cover to be that is
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what I'm looking at right now a very
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terribly drawn picture of like a beach
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scene and a robot and brady and like a
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gramophone on the beach I would praise a
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small child for this drawing it looks
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terrible if you have done it but i can
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see the inspiration that I'm sure that
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his came to the artists to create the
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final version i think the final version
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pretty much looks just like it except
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like well done they filled in the
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a little yeah I'm sure that's that's all
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that was done I like that it's also
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called Brady scribble dot jpg has the
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file name isn't saving it to my desktop
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yeah I have no delusions of grandeur I
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think though and i know you Brady
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because you're kind of a hoarder
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you know you keep talking about the
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actual object miss of it and we have
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people love to hold things in to run
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their fingers over them and to keep
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hundreds of photos of astronauts and a
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big trunk next to the desk like this is
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the kind of thing that you like to do
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yeah i think people will actually listen
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to it and I think people actually do own
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record players it seems like
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old-fashioned record players are kind of
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a trendy thing all of these hipsters in
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the world who like old things go out and
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they buy record players so I think there
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are actually enough record players in
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the world that a significant number of
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people who buy this will actually be
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able to hear the episode that is
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contained within it i don't think it's
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just going to end up on people's walls
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as a piece of artwork at least i hope
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not because we know we record the
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episode for people to listen to and I
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think it will be listened to
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maybe there will be
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hello Internet listening parties where
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the one hipster in the group or the one
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delusional person who thinks that vinyl
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sounds better than all digital
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recordings and thus owns a record player
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will be able to play the episode for a
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group of people to listen to i think
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that's gonna happen and they're gonna
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love it I love the idea of a party with
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a big bowl of crisps and a couple of
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years and just hanging there
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I hope that is until I put a lot of
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effort into the episode it was put
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together very lovingly even though you
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haven't listened to it yet it has not
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gotten to the top of my to-do list had
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been very busy being in America but i
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will listen to it very soon ready okay
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so it's not going to physically exist
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into November em but we've been a bit of
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it's been very difficult to decide how
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many to have made so we've got a very
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limited run being made so we are going
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to sell them now so we know who's going
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to get them so if you want one
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there's only about I think 250 being
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made at the moment blue which maybe is
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way too many or maybe is not enough
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so if you want one order it now I'm
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afraid you won't actually get to hold it
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until later in the year but once they're
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gone they're probably gone and it's
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taken so long to get these ones my
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goodness knows if i'll be able to get
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another batch done so if you want one
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get in if you don't want one well that's
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okay fine it's not for everyone which
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still business as usual here on the
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internet business as usual
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what is business as usual Brady you know
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we're still putting out a good
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old-fashioned internet episodes are you
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trying to allay fears that people might
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have that the show is going to convert
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to a completely vinyl she'll fix is
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really successful like that's what it
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sounds like implicitly you're trying to
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let people know like don't worry if this
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sells out we're not going to become a
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vinyl exclusive podcast right don't
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worry it's still business as usual with
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our fancy pantsy digital distribution
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that's still going to happen during that
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time and gray don't tell me can you
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imagine the irony if the first vinyl
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only podcast in the world was called
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hello internet at
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great are you gonna want to copy because
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I know you don't like physical things
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but surely you will have to own a copy
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of this i'm trying to remember is does
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my dad have a record player can i send
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this to my parents house so that I have
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it and then i can actually listen to it
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my parents and I will enjoy it there
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the burden mhm I can't wait
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if nothing else people just go and have
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a look at what the cover looks like just
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enjoy the cover it's a thing of beauty
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and you can look at that for free
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yeah you can look at that for free see
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what Brady's artwork inspired i wonder
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if it's too late to this replace the out
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with my original 1 i'm just going to say
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it's too late right now i'm gonna say
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even though this is 100-percent your
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project from start to finish you were
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doing everything I'm going to say it's
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too late to possibly change the artwork
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no it's not it's not gonna happen maybe
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there's gonna be a the second run
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printing do you have like memories of
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vinyl I did you ever own vinyl records
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or you know used to play them on your
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parents record player or was it never
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really part of your life
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my dad was always really big into music
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much much more so than I ever was or
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and when I was a kid I remember that
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there were tons of vinyl records it
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seemed like around the house and he had
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a vinyl record player and I feel like I
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remember like the transition from vinyl
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to digital is this big thing that we did
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at one point going through all of my
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dad's vinyl records and having a machine
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that actually converted them into
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digital mp3's at one point but yeah I
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definitely remember as a kid listening
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to vinyl records that was playing on my
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dad's system but by the time i bought
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music for myself it was cds i'm pretty
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sure embarrassingly the first CD I ever
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bought was like pocket full of
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kryptonite by the spin doctors which
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anyone like in middle school in the
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early nineties was definitely no but
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last very long after that I think but i
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am one hundred percent certain that i
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personally have never bought a vinyl
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record but you as a man in the next
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decade of life for me
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have you bought vinyl records you must
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have no I started on cassettes and my
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first cassette was money for nothing
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well actually the album was called
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brothers-in-arms by dire straits but i
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do have fun memories of our no I
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remember my dad bought the vinyl single
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of kokomo by the Beach Boys and I
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remember spending a summer just playing
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that over and over again on the record
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player but we were listening to it was
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playing in the swimming pool because I
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grew up with a swimming pool open so we
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would be swimming and then when the song
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would finish after four minutes or
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whatever we would take it in turns to
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getting out of the pole and drying your
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hands and your arms going into the house
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moving the needle back to the start of
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the out now running and jumping in the
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PO and just listening to cook like with
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this into it 20 times in a row but you
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have to go and restart some h time on
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the record player
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ok that's all I could not imagine a
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world of music that didn't have an
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automatic repeat one if you have to
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Kovac in and reset it manually what a
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pain in the fight
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do you know what it is nothing but a
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happy memory it's pure happiness regular
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see it like I can still see it sitting
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on the record player and I can still see
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like my dripping hands like fiddling
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with the are brilliant yeah just a
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crystal clear memory in your head
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it does seem like a yeah well that's the
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key word there it seems like I'm glad
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you have a happy memory of that Brady
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actually i have gotten a little bit
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vinyl obsessed a because of what we're
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doing in the pride of course and also
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because of the my wife got a record
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player a few weeks ago so we've been
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buying up lots of i know and i went on
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to a bay and i bought a vinyl release
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that came out shortly after the Apollo
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11 landing we could get all the
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highlights of Apollo 11 on vinyl and
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listen to the moon landing again from
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the original NASA recordings i haven't
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put it on yet but I'm gonna have a
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listen to the Apollo 11 as if it's not
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scratchy enough record i'm gonna listen
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to a record player
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I feel like you might be really headed
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towards the deep end of vinyl you you're
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going to be one of those people in six
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months is trying to convince me about
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the superiority of vinyl
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as you're using one of those like vinyl
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oils that you suppose like rub gently
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into the surface of your records and
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like oh yes this is a much better much
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superior experience watch operating
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that's gonna be you in six months
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hang on there's a difference between
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saying one's a superior experience and
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one's a superior sound that's true
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anyway well I'll tell you what we don't
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have to like put ideas out there because
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come November people can listen to a
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hello Internet pisode on vinyl and they
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can tell us which they think is the
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superior experience
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well they're only going to have the
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choice of listening to this episode on
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vinyl so listening to this one on vinyl
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will be the superior experience and the
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yeah when you say this one not the one
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we're recording now but the secret room
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we forget a secret one that were
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yeah that one will never be available in
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digital format by now
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when we haven't been making secret vinyl
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episodes of hello Internet what else
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have you been up to basically you've
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been lounging around the last month
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seven you've got into your and your
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hibernation annual hibernation yeah you
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are a man who takes a vacation like when
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you take a vacation you take a vacation
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I think what you mean by that is that
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I'm slower to respond to you then you
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would like when you know that i am on
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vacation but you don't really know what
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I've been up to Brady I haven't been
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sending you snaps of me by the pool with
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a little alcoholic drink in my hand with
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an umbrella in it you know nothing of
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what I've been up to
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I think all you know is that I don't
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reply as quickly as you would like is
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that a fair assessment
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you don't tweak and you don't produce
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content when you don't release content
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maybe you spent last month making 19
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videos and you're about to release them
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all at once that is not the case
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no that is that is definitely not the
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case you are correct in that I try to
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shut down great industries as much as I
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possibly can over the summer
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not nearly as much as i would like but
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perhaps more than some other people like
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I feel like in the past month I've been
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very busy because I've been doing a
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bunch of family stuff and family stuff
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is always busy stuff time-consuming
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stuff I've been in America driving
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across the country at one point I was in
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Wyoming for a while and i have to say we
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talked about the Wyoming flag a while
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ago on our flag episode we went through
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all the state flags and do you remember
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Brady what the Wyoming flag looks like
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off the top of your head and that haha i
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look at it now if you want
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yeah you can look at it now
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oh yeah okay it's a bad flag done badly
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is that what you think of the flag of
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Wyoming yeah it's bad flag done badly
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air because they like they said okay
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here's all the things we could do to
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make a bad flag like have a weird
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outline of an animal and put a logo
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honor but then they said what's the
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worst way we could put the logo on it
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oh I know let's like make it too big and
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ill-fitting on the weird animal and
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that's bad to the pair of bad
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let's see now my view of the flag of
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Wyoming is that it is almost great it's
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just the logo stamped across the Buffalo
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is the most terrible thing ever that
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yeah we just to remove that logo this
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flag would be so much better so much
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cooler yes this is what you have to do
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to fix the wiring flag remove the logo
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from on the Buffalo em stylized the
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outline of the Buffalo a little bit so
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it doesn't look like clip made by brady
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and just get the proportion of that box
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and border a little bit different i'm ok
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with the box and border i agree that is
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slightly stylized Buffalo would be an
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improvement but eighty percent of the
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games come from simply removing the
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state seal yeah which is horrific we
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placed at the center of that Buffalo
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don't use the word center because it's
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off center in the flag and it's off
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center on the Buffalo into his office
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enter and badly size as it could be i
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don't know i think they must have been
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having that must be bored in some
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consultants from Liberia help with this
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one looking at possibly possibly i think
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in that old episode i would have said
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what I think about this flag is like boy
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just take away that logo and this is a
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pretty good flag even if you do
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absolutely nothing else and when I was
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in Wyoming the summer I was in a place
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called jackson hole for a while and i
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could not help but notice that almost
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everywhere I saw the flag of Wyoming
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being used as like a logo or being used
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in a poster or on the outside of a store
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or on somebody's hat it's like the
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citizens of Wyoming took it into their
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own hands that that logo doesn't exist
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right they just remove that and is like
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now we're going with our Buffalo flag
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without the logo so it felt like there
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citizens spontaneous democracy taking
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place about how to make their flag look
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better of which i vastly improve
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thumbs-up citizens of Wyoming you
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approve but when people don't hello
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Internet you call them rebel scum
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no but they're just having an entirely
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different flag that didn't win the
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referendum that's the Knights different
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you can't you can't support an uprising
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ya ready that's no good right so it's
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okay to tweak the flag but you can't
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just completely change it I see lots of
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people do very interesting things with
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the nail and gear that icon in and of
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I see lots of interesting things done
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with the flag but if you're just going
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to try to have one of the loser flags
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act as the official flag of hello
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internet it's not cool especially with
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your feet hip fade so i could just the
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other day someone tweeted at me some
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diehard put white cross up briefly on
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the health network if age is the
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official flag and I thought our that
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someone really committed to a losing
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cause there i think you get onto a
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genius idea they're great I in the
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battle for hearts and minds instead of
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flag flag being called the one true flag
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or whatever people like to cola we
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should just start referring to her as
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the loser flag haha because that these
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people are basically that you know their
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totem this standard that are trying to
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take it into the world is a loser flag
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practice right now and gather together
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all of us under this loser flag hanging
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Anna it does rather deflate the car
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doesn't that's all I'm gonna call of now
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on there's another are your team loser
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flag I know all about branding elections
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and I think that might be a winning
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point to hit on there so in my travels
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across America as we have discussed
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previously on the show
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there is always the problem of tipping
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em and while this is my second trip to
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America this summer this time because i
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wasn't just staying in hotels i was
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actually going across the land
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I kept running into this thing which I
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just haven't come across in America
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before they're called square terminals
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for taking payments in America do you
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know what i'm talking about if I say
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square terminal know
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ok America seems to have this horrific
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Lee backwards payment system for
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accepting credit card payments i don't
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understand what's going on in America I
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don't understand why they can't just run
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credit cards like normal people but
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there seems to be this old-fashioned way
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I constantly have to hand my ID to
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people when i'm buying things in America
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it's very annoying but square seems to
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be this company that tries to solve this
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problem by having a little either they
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just have like an iPad that's mounted in
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the store or it set up on the vendors
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phone that you can actually run the
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credit card through a little dongle that
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attaches to the phone and they can take
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credit card payments there and it seems
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everywhere in America is using one of
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credit card payment accepting easier
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it's just like boom all of a sudden
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they're everywhere
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ok fine i have no problem with this I
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like things to be easier to but what I
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don't like is that on this system when
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you run your credit card they flip over
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the little iPad so that you can you sign
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your name but before you sign your name
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and every single store it asks you how
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much of a tip that you want to leave em
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every single time they flip over the
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ipad person looks into your eyes and
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there's a bunch of buttons will say like
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two three five ten other or whatever it
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is for tip amount and then there's one
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little button which is like no tip
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because you're a mean person and you
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have to tap that one and then it lets
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you sign the thing doesn't like a sound
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effect when you we had like the god yeah
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it totally should make a sound like that
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even if it doesn't make that sound it's
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psychologically feels like it yeah
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sounds right and this is one of these
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things like in America I also run across
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the situation of every single receipt
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has a space for a tip and i find that
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much more ignora below but i was so
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aware the summer of every single store
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using these square terminals feels like
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a little moment where you have to decide
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if you're going to leave a tip or not
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and I just I can't deal with it Brady i
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find it exhausting i find it like
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weirdly judgy on behalf of the store in
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don't know how to get through this i
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mean i'm on your side with this crowd
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you know how I feel about tipping as
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well although I have to say a couple of
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times over the last few weeks I found
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myself in eating establishments in the
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UK where the service has been so poor
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and i have been so riled up and mad at
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the poor serving staff just ignoring me
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ordering a terrible job and me knowing
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they're going to get their salary at the
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end of the week anyway who that I have
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wished they had to work for their tips
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like I wish they had that incentive
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because if they had been nice i would
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have tipped them but I was just thinking
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you've done a terrible job here and i
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have no retribution
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there's nothing i can do all I can do is
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pay my bill at the end and leave and
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you're going to get your salary and your
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boss isn't gonna know what a terrible
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job you did and I did wish they were
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incentivized you want to smite them
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no I don't want to punish them I want
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them to do a good job anything
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centralizing them is what will make them
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do a good job so be it
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because they sure as heck were
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incentivized by their salary because
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they were doing a terrible job so I have
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to say I a couple of times over the last
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few weeks I've had a little flicker of
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tipping does have its benefits but
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overall when all things considered and
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everything is measured a wide i agree
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with you I i would prefer a system where
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people were paid and we didn't have
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these weird tipping scenarios that come
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yeah it's really frustrating and I don't
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like how it just becomes everywhere
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because now i don't understand and i
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have a couple of questions for you but I
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hope you can clarify for me about
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whether or not i'm supposed to tip in a
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particular since you ask is i I'm asking
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you because i feel like i have no idea
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ok ok so here's a question Brady k i'm
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in a hotel yeah i order room service
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yep the room service is delivered to the
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room yep do i tip yes or no yes
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okay how much do i tip do i tip like the
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person is a waiter or do I give them a
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why don't know what you mean by do I tip
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them as a way i would just give them one
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or two bucks so what I mean by as a
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waiter is do I give them a percentage of
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no not not a percentage of the food bill
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ok this is this is my opinion by the way
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I'm not but listen I just I just need
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someone to tell me that's why would
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I cannot tell you how much anxiety and
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frankly how much radically inconsistent
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tipping i did over the summer because it
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was a bit like I feel ambushed I don't
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know what to do right and I would just
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do something and it was always wrong
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okay you're saying room service just a
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couple bucks to me it's like that's the
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guy that delivers my pizza okay all
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right now the hotel that I'm saying at
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it ranges a complimentary ride to the
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airport from the hotel yet do you tip
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yep yes okay how much do you tip the
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driver usually because I'm in a good
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mode with those people that five bucks
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ok so they get five dollars yeah people
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driving you okay
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it feels to me like if it's a
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complimentary ride I shouldn't have to
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prepare for it in advance with money in
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my pocket but ok ok if it wasn't the
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driver who decided to let you have a
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yeah right but presumably the driver
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isn't there because now he is physically
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changed the inside of the car presumably
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he's there because he's getting paid to
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yeah probably relate yeah isn't that how
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society like I hope we find people to do
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that I hope so i don't know how they
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rock and Wyoming but then yeah okay so
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now here is the one that I found the
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most confusing and I don't know what to
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do ok so my wife and I were in Las Vegas
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there was a restaurant we were going to
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a bunch of times
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okay in a restaurant is the clearest
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thing I understand what's going on and i
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figure i guess like fifteen to twenty
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percent tip is normal okay i understand
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ok here's the question though yep when I
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go to that restaurant to pick up take
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away food because my wife and I don't
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want to actually spend any time in the
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restaurant yet we just want to go back
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to the room yep and they give me the
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food yet what do i do then do I tip them
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then no no tip at all no tip no tip at
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all on the food not from Brady not from
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complicating factor you've been there so
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many times that the waitress obviously
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knows who you are and it's the same
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waitress who would normally serve you
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handing you the food that you're taking
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away do you tip yes or no
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well no but if the amount is close to a
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I might do a cheeky keep the change in a
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wink haha ok yeah ok keep the change in
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a little wing because all this person
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has done his hand you the food they
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haven't liked being shuttling back and
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forward five or six times and making
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conversation with you and smiling a big
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nice all they've done is literally
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picked up a bag and put it in your hand
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but if you've got a relationship with
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the person and you're going to continue
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that relationship and you want to keep
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the report going and you want good
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service next time then it can't hurt
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just to grease the wheels but i think
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there's no tip expectation you think
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there's no tip expectation they're
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certainly not from a certainly not from
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mhm okay final one yep the bellman who
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takes your bags at a hotel normally of
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course I hold on to my bags with my dear
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life because I just want to avoid the
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typical situation right yes it's like
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even if I obviously need help yeah i'm
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going to suffer if it's gonna greatly
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inconvenienced myself because of the
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anxiety over the situation horse but
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when i'm traveling with other people
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there are many bags and it is too much
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for one man to handle so I need the help
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bellman when he takes your bags do you
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tip him then as opposed to what at the
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end when he drops them off ya know you
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you tip when they're dropped off at the
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ok ok but here was my conundrum on the
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final day when I was in Las Vegas
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yeah bellman has to take my bags yeah
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and our flight isn't until much later in
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the day so we're leaving them at the
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yeah bellman takes the bags yeah i
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tipped the bellman because i want the
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bags taken well care of during the day
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while i'm gone when I retrieved the bags
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it's the same bellman who is retrieving
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them again do i tip the same bellman
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again like it every time I touch this
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person no I'm sorry you made you've
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already made a mistake you shouldn't
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have tipped him at the stuff I've made a
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mistake okay so you don't tip it when
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you give bag yeah you do it at the end
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when you get bags yeah and like maybe
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it's not the same person but that stuff
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evens out there and it swings and
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roundabouts i'm sure they take it in
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turns up being the first guy and the
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last guy so they get their equal share
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of the tips but i would have given the
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tip at the start I could be wrong
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because i know in America speaking tip
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before they order their drinks which i
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think is strange but I know that's a
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oh god okay i didn't even know that bar
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sometimes you put a tip on the bar
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before you even audio drinks
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because she was like you're laying down
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a marker that you're a good person to
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give good service to but yes he once
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again that just seems like bribery that
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totally seems like bribery and the
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restaurant at the hotel that I'm
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thinking of they had a sign we said
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please do not accept bribes from patrons
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which I thought was really funny
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ok Thank You Brady i will keep these as
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yeah for when to tip when not to tip it
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got it right let me ask you something
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yeah I know what your answer is going to
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be but let me ask the wider community of
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teams what they think because this is a
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conundrum i sometimes have and I had the
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other day if you see someone or your you
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may have interaction with them or you
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may just be in passing in there a
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stranger and there is something that
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they could have pointed out to them for
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example a big tags out at the back of
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their clothing or something is hanging
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out of you know their trousers or
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something do you alert them like they're
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fly is unzipped is the kind of thing
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that yeah that's another example that
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some might get some more embarrassing
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example but that's another example do
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you point this out to strangers would
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you say to a stranger on the bus or the
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excuse me the tags coming out the top of
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the back of your shirt you might want to
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tuck it in because otherwise it's going
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to be out all day would you do that or
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would you just sort of stereo shoes and
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pretend it's not happening
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yeah no don't get involved can get
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involved yep that's the thing i got
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involved once and it was not a good but
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with someone's tag being out was your
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starbucks thing where you know tried to
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help someone basically there was a
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situation where I thought that a woman's
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skirt was riding up in an embarrassing
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way and she was a stranger and i wanted
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to point out and then she yelled at me
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because she was just wearing yoga pants
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and like a funny shirt that was sort of
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half tucked in as like okay
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never again like sorry i thought i was
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going to be helping you out but I
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learned one never get involved and to i
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discovered what yoga pants which I've
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never seen before at least seven good
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came of it but yea once again this kind
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of thing is never rewarded don't do this
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and so now I would not get involved
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definitely not okay with you though
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would you be like oh hey
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well you just reach over and tuck the
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tag in on their shirt which 1i wouldn't
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usually at a guy would let go but
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sometimes I point things that i was at
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our wedding recently and there was a
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lady there who like something that was
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going wrong with our show very obviously
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and I just felt like she would want to
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know it's a wedding and she was looking
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all pretty and it was a special day and
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she wanted everyone to think she was
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pretty and I didn't want people to be
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talking about the thing wrong with her
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shoe or Dan you know two hours later she
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looked down and there are no I thought
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it would diminish her day so I just
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quietly pointed out to ensure our thank
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you so much and she fixed it up and then
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she could go back to looking fabulous so
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I felt like I did her a favor but
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generally i probably wouldn't say
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yeah but you can get away with these
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things because you just give a smile and
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that Brady wink just a wink
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yeah yeah yeah there's a little tea
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sounds you give them the link and
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everything's okay i'm not a particularly
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good winger gray i don't think i have a
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I don't know I've never really been a
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big one to use the winger maybe I don't
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maybe this is a secret weapon I should
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we all out but I've never been a big
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it seems like this is something that you
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should do you seem like a man who get
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away with links now I'm not charismatic
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enough I've got friends for winkers
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I don't have the charisma polar wink off
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you don't okay yeah i'm a few levels
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below being able to be a winker you've
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got to have a certain cheeky charm that
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that I haven't got
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I think you have a cheeky time Brady I
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think you should try it out what could
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possibly go wrong i have a small amount
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of cheeky challenge but i do not have
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anywhere near enough cheeky chap to be a
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winker this episode has been sponsored
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by the people of fracture and well I'm
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localized to talk about them this week
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because i've just received my own
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fracture order teams will be aware that
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I recently received a certificate from
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the University of Nottingham and while
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the original is safely stored here in my
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office I thought my parents might
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appreciate their own copy so rather
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ingenious Lee I thought I scanned my
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deployment high-resolution uploaded to
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the fracture website and days later
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received two copies printed onto a piece
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of glass in the fracture style with the
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laser-cut rigid backer ready to hang
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straight out-of-the-box on walls back in
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now I thought this was pretty clever and
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I told the fracture people about it only
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to learn this is actually a pretty
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popular thing today so maybe I'm a bit
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late to the party but it's still a cool
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oh now my longtime listeners loyal Tim's
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toothbrushes and I like to think I kind
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electric toothbrushes which you then
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all thought you started using electric
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toothbrushes after i recommend it i feel
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like i'm pretty sure i use an electric
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toothbrush because my wife recommended i
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don't think this was you
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but anyway the thing is I then went from
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electric toothbrushes back to
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i went back to and manual toothbrush and
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my reason was as i put it at the time
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violently right I want to really hit
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them hard push hard and when you do that
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with electric toothbrushes they usually
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stop on things like that it sounded like
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you just got a crap electric toothbrush
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well maybe that maybe that's just to me
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characteristic and they want to feel
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like it's hard and effective even if
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it's less effective I like a good hard
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my mouth that shouldn't be there
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this seems fine with modern toothbrush
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technology can handle this but in
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another retrograde step when my argue my
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wife recently purchased wooden
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toothbrushes and i believe i sent you a
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photo of one of these because we have a
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very beautiful bathroom and it's very
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old-fashioned and my wife didn't think
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that plastic colorful modern
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toothbrushes looked very nice in the
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antique cuts that we were keeping the
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toothbrushes in yes I can imagine this
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say she found these wooden toothbrushes
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which is basically instead of the usual
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plastic handles would but it's still got
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you know synthetic bristles it's not
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like wooden bracelet with dad yet if you
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give it time for a day we're gonna we're
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gonna get the goats here one that later
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this seems inevitable to me because for
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height of comfort and charm for 1910
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everything in the house looks like this
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these bath towels are amazing in 1910
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hygiene is amazing for 1910 I am 0%
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surprise so its wooden toothbrush today
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goats bristles to that's what's gonna
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yeah what are we gonna do after the
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vital episode then we're gonna have to
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you really are just wait but i was still
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giving it the big treatment and I was
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having a toothbrush the other day
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awake and now had act that I brush my
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really big smash because i wanted to
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give him a good claim and something
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completely unexpected happen not
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unexpected uh-huh to fresh so pretty
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bristles just went everywhere i'll send
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you a photo because I thought grades
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basically the wood fired me and it sort
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toothbrush so my toothbrush was not hard
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this is why we make toothbrushes had a
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plastic Brady we don't do it for no
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reason we do it for this reason so that
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it doesn't explode in your mouth you
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splinters missiles if you're lucky and
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splinters if you aren't right this is
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saying out technology fire me so
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it's not a cheap thrill it's just it's
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the image of inevitability is what it is
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pretty is just seems like obviously it's
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toothbrush is still going great guns i
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maybe that's the case but you know what
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an answer of just be more delicate with
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your things is a terrible answer who now
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you have to tiptoe around all your
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possessions now I think you're
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ridiculous for wanting to brush your
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teeth really roughly but if you want to
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brush your teeth really roughly your
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toothbrush should stand up to that rough
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treatment that's my perspective on it
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yeah treat that toothbrush rough
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yeah and this this wooden one well I
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guess this is the real question are you
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going to be able to go back to plastic
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toothbrushes or is wood here to stay
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well I'm a necessity is the mother of
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invention as they say i mean iÃve had
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to go back to my reserve plastic
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toothbrushes immediately because
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I didn't even know where my wife found
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wouldn't toothbrushes we haven't ordered
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any more but I don't think I right back
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after this i think you know for me once
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wouldn't toothbrushes but i think i'm
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going to compromise I'm not going
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electric but I can't go back to wood so
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it's gonna have to be plastic manual
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there you go listeners if you were
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considering a wooden toothbrush don't or
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if you are just be careful don't brush
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don't do that be careful is a terrible
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answer that's not a good answer at all
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don't do i do look lovely
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they do look nice but the aesthetics of
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the things should not be considered over
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the thing that is a terrible decision I
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they're getting blown to bits and they
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going along the motorway at five miles
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an hour and some 1920 car that's not
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practical but it's still beautiful and
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it's still fun you know what I think
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every time I see one of those cars yeah
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I have two thoughts
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yeah one I do agree with you ready I
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think wow that's a good-looking car they
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don't make cars like that i saw a bunch
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every single time I thought good-looking
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car and the second thing I think is if I
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I would ban all cars older than 10 years
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they're just deathtraps those old cars
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you shouldn't be allowed to drive them
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I wouldn't let you drive them well thank
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goodness you're not King a I'm just
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trying to save lives
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ok so great I've had quite a good track
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record just lightly with the getting
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cocky you're getting cocky buddy
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now i have had a very good track record
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them coming people and I do try to
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cherry-pick those one or two that I
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will allow i have received one that is
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like no other and i'm going to give it a
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try i want to tell you about it
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but I'm taking a risk this time because
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i think what people do while listening
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because there is so much going on and
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it's so dense and it's so full of detail
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that maybe it's too much blue want to
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give it go ok now you know I like
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setting the same gray know you do so
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settle in ok because i want to talk
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about one of my favorite television
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shows and that is air crash
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okay yeah you know or as many Americans
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now at i think it's called Mayday in
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American come on pick up time unless
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think it's not very exciting very
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exciting air crash investigator sounds
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like you're unwrapping something just
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get a little something to eat while I'm
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that's why I just I figure we talking
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for a while so I'm unwrapping a protein
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I'm listening I want me talking to them
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ok so god it's distracting me with your
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protein bahaha can you put it down
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look up or down to and feel that you're
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listening I'm doing nothing but
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you sound like you've got your mouth
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full of food mm dr. tell me when you are
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I'm sir I'm set it doesn't sound like
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okay I'm good I'm good
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yeah have you ever watched an episode of
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the show gray the only time I have seen
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anything of air crash investigator is I
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saw somebody else watching it on a plane
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right and quickly diverted my eyes from
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that is all I have ever seen the show i
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as well it's like such a dead thing to
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little reenactments and then there are
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various roles for actors in these
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reenactments and they're usually pretty
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script that's obviously been given to
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you from a transcript and you have to
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suave except for the last five minutes
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terrified and put the sticks and press
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buttons and little things that app but i
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flight controller who and these are the
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people that have to sit behind a screen
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roger that see you on the other side and
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it's a pretty boring row except for your
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puzzled and think where did that thing
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these are the key roles yeah yeah yeah I
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just terrified thinking about all the
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things that can go wrong with airplanes
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so anyway we had an email from a chat
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Canada Lou I'm an actor who recently
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played a small role on your favorite TV
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show air crash investigation also known
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I played an air traffic controller in
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the episode about the Lear jet crash of
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pro golfer payne stewart in 1999 one of
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my most interesting plane crashes by the
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oh I don't think I'll win an Emmy for
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the part but I got to work with very
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nice people and I listened to my
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favorite podcast on the lunch break his
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photographic proof from my fake air
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traffic control station so gray here's a
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picture of mike acting looking at the
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screen looking all serious that's from
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season 16 which is called air crash
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investigation deadly silence have to say
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he looks very serious he looks like a
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really believable
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craft control guy yet so well done mark
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but here's the piece de resistance gray
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coming through now here's a picture from
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the other angle of my cat is pretend air
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traffic control station holding his
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phone listening to an episode of Hello
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internet who I like this how like
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internet on the set of air crash
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this is a fantastic things people do
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while listening to the podcast I feel
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like what more can happen there
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we've peaks like you know I thought air
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force one doesn't get better than that
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fighter jet doesn't get better than that
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no no that's not true because i don't
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think i would have had the imagination
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to have dreamt of someone acting on air
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crash investigation listening to hello
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Internet in their lunch break i could
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not have imagined that but you know what
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it has happened that is fantastic
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he has no buttons on his phone on the
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physical phone on his desk that's
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obviously the red phone that you pick up
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out so I mean you don't need buttons
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when you pick up the red fine because
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that can that can only mean one thing
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good news because it's happy birthday
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that's what that means no Mike did send
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me a link to the episode on youtube and
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ending to a copyright by thought about
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your channels LLC so I think Mike you
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of freebooting there it's okay because
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this is a fantastic listener photo that
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internetting this of it that he tried to
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show me a freebooter deficit it really
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that is fantastic so you think this is
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well what I'm wondering is can people
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I mean yeah you must be able listen to
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podcast in space does NASA allow them to
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have the bandwidth for that I wonder
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I've mastered that the stuff they watch
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out there they've got a really fast
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connection up to
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the International Space Station these
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days i do they ya must make it tolerable
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I mean you can watch constant streaming
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HD video of the space station itself you
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know views from alive thats download
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that's not necessarily there upload
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speed download upload I bet it's not a
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symmetrical connection now you're right
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you are but I imagine it's pretty high i
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don't know what the uplink speed is will
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find that out that people know I
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mentioned most astronauts would load up
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there a podcast play with hello internet
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before they leave the planet anyway just
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to be sure that's what most astronauts
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yeah of course now i agree with you that
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has to be the case okay Lupo no we
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haven't had any news of hello Internet
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in space yet but i don't i I'm still not
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sure that space would trump air crash
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it's a question vestigation it is a bit
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of her hello Jeanette perfect storm here
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this is fantastic
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thank you Mike for sending this in to
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Brady defined by the way always send
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your photos to breathe should keep
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playing Crash gonna going for a minute
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or let's do that while their plane
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crashed cornering yep there's something
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that you wanted to discuss plane crash
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corner wise well like most people with
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an interest in aviation incidence my
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fade this week did fill up with chatter
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about an airship crash there had been a
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crash of an airship and there was video
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footage over and everyone was linking to
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the video and as you can imagine this
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was cause for some excitement airship
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crash I mean there's one thing you think
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Hindenburg you think and this is gonna
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be big-time this is going to be
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so I click on this link to watch this
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airship crash a dread that it had like
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click the pole and things and I thought
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this is going to be amazing and it was
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this airship called a land 10 i think
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it's cold it's the biggest aircraft in
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the world it had its first flight the
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week before this was a second flight and
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can you believe on a second flight so i
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watch this video and i have to say not
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the most exciting aircraft have ever
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said gray have you seen this you send
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this video to me
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and said I want to show you this air
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yeah and of course because i'm not
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really in this world when you say
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airship it doesn't even cross my mind
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about the Hindenburg I'm just thinking
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like a plane and so I loaded up and go
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ahh thats weird i didn't really know
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that we still made these things and I
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think this is like a relic of the past
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and and then watching the video is very
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I wasn't even able to watch the whole
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thing I had to jump around in my youtube
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player because i like I cannot wait for
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this airship to slowly approached the
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ground and very gently make contact it
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was more of an air kiss than air crash
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wasn't it kinda guy i don't know the
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motion to describe it I'm sure on the
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inside it was not like this but from
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watching it occur it looks like it's a
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gentle bounce of the beach ball in
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moon's gravity right is what it looked
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that's that's where watching this is
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like before I'd seen the footage i read
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that i had nosedived and also give Wow
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and nose-diving airship that's amazing i
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would describe it as more of a belly
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flop meets a nosedive almost like a chin
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flop sort of gently falls down chin
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first I mean the exciting thing is the
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cockpit of this airship happens to be
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right where it hit the ground who so it
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did give the cockpit of a smash
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thankfully the pilots weren't injured
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I can't see how they could be really
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good it's for this on their beach ball
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on the moon but the thing it did make me
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think is just like an airship can't seem
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to even do a crash properly and food as
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much as I like things old-school and
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we've been talking about how I like
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things old-school in this episode
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airships to me feel like the technology
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or the invention that humanity just
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refuses to let go haha
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despite the fact it's just not gonna
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happen like it's like airships don't
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realize we're just not that into them
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and they just keep trying and like
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obviously the Hindenburg was different
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with the hydrogen and that you know we
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don't use the flammable gases anymore
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but apparently this thing this thing
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called air land at ten was originally
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commissioned by this company they're
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going to make it for like the US
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he is like a surveillance type thing and
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then obviously the military came to
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their senses and was thinking what the
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hell will be drinking with a client
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contract but the company said are now
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we're going to keep going we're gonna
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make him into passenger things are going
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to find all these other uses for them
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and they're talking about all these
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things they think that their land attend
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could be used for but i just think that
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airships like I think they're kind of
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cool and you know there is a romance to
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them but they're just not gonna happen
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I like that people keep making them and
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they entertained but i would want to be
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buying shares and put it that way I
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wouldn't want my money to be on the
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i'm looking at the at the wikipedia page
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for these airships yeah it's hot and
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vibrant air vehicles is the company and
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air land 10 is this is the biggest
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aircraft in the world is nearly a
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hundred meters long
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I mean just looking at pictures of
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Zeppelin's and all of this stuff
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this to me looks like a transport
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vehicle that might be best suited for a
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human colony on Jupiter it seems like on
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anyway this is poorly optimized in every
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its enormous ik take up an enormous
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yeah it seems like they hold a minuscule
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amount of cargo or passengers and they
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seem to travel very slowly so slowly
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they can even crash properly but also I
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mean what the military doing even
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thinking about these things like the
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military the last people like we all
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know the saying you brought a knife to a
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gunfight they bring them balloon to a
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yeah like yeah it's not stealthy it's
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not still be it must be the easier you
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know a kid with a slingshot could
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probably bring it to the ground
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uh-huh anyway there is one thing i was
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looking at some pictures over and
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understand Eunice this is one picture of
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it which has been doing the rounds of it
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lightly and it's on the wikipedia page
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and so I think it's a publicity shot of
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of the front of the airship tell me your
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thoughts on this
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it looks like a but it looks like looks
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like big bomb it's completely does and
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funnily enough as sophisticated as
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grades are great and seemed to be one of
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my friends who recognizes these funny
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pictures more than anyone so I thought
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you'd be amused by and i even i thought
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that looks like a bumps are grazed
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differently going to think it looks like
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a bump and then I went was doing a bit
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more googling about the airship because
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it's actually called Martha Quinn that's
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not new and I think that's an
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interesting name
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you know we like discussing how things
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are named so I decided to look up why is
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it called Martha Quinn and I googled
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Martha Quinn and the first article i
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found was mail online i'm afraid to save
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anyway and the headline is the flying
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bomb in quick man except that
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is officially christened Martha Quinn
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and that this was the point I found out
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that this thing has been called the
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flying bomb for ages and has been names
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and people have been doing pictures of
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it and so obviously is it's not a nice
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look and in case you're wondering the
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flying bomb being named Martha Quinn is
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named after the company CEOs wife is
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Martha because i thought this must be
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some aviator I've never heard of you
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know I thought it was gonna be a clever
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name but it was just not phillip quinn
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he's the chairman of hybrid vehicles and
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his wife Martha Quinn sounds like a
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derring-do person from the 1920s it does
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it's ok it's a cool name but I can
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already imagine her in a black-and-white
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photograph with her goggles on
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about to step aboard in a Zeppelin I can
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totally see this but apparently that I
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wonder what she thinks when she opens up
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her daily mile and it says the flying
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bomb is officially christened Martha
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Quinn thanks love
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thanks for that thanks for making my
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name or two right by putting on
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something that looks like a bum and
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crashed on a second flat and not only
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any bum an enormous bomb
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perhaps the biggest that humans have
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ever built but looking through the
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wikipedia article the only thing that I
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see here that is remotely oh maybe
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that's what modern airships could be
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used for is that the original design
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plan was for long-term unmanned aerial
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yeah for surveillance and target
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acquisition yeah and it feels like okay
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I can kind of see that I know that
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there's a big question about
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surveillance and equipment in the
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military and this idea of being able to
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have a essentially permanent never has
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to land fleet of surveillance vehicles
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yeah and maybe I could I can imagine
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that an airship when you just fill it
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all up it has very low power
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requirements it could serve as an
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unmanned surveillance vehicle in an area
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where you don't really care about being
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sneaky like you already have troops on
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the ground and you're just going to fill
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the skies with a bunch of these vehicles
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so may we that's a legitimate use case
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but otherwise they do just seem comical
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and looking like a gigantic bomb does
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not help ya with the ridiculous picture
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using Thank You internet Brady has sent
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me a clever photoshop combination of kim
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kardashian and the gigantic but i'll
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leave it to your imagination and
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possibly the show okay so speaking of
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Technology self-driving cars great yet
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again i am going to mia culper apologize
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and fold your fate because every day
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that goes by I realize how right you
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were and how wrong I was about how
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quickly self-driving cars were going to
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be a thing like I knew they were going
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to be a thing but this is just moving so
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yeah i just had a quick little thing
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that I want to put in the show notes so
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i think it's a real moment so last time
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we talked about self-driving cars i
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think i mentioned that uber getting into
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the business of self-driving cars to me
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was the most interesting news because if
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there was any company have would push
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ahead relentlessly being openly
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disdainful about having to pay all of
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the employees and not caring it was uber
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and I thought we might get there first
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but it seems like out of nowhere this
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company i have never heard of called new
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tana me has partnered with the
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city-state of singapore who doesn't love
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city-states and on Thursday are going to
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have the world's first fleet of
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self-driving cars operating in singapore
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it's a small number it's going to be six
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there are some limitations about where
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in the city they're going to go but it's
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going to be the first time that there
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are actual taxis that people can use
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that will not be driven by humans
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anywhere in the world there's a whole
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bunch of asterisks on this but i still
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think it is a interesting point to be at
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and they've gone for a cute-looking
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car then ubers Apache helicopter version
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movers evil empire cars while cool not
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yeah autonomy is going with the with the
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friendly look it looks like they're
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beating uber to do this by just a few
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weeks because it's obviously is it
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Pittsburghers at philadelphia i can't
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remember where Hooper's doing that it is
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yeah whoever is going to do the same
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thing with the self-driving cars what
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they're both doing just for the time
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being and for safety records that they
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are going to actually have somebody in
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the car like as a just in case is yeah
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that doesn't can I think it totally
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counts because if the person is not
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driving if they're just there for
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basically insurance purposes I view this
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is like whatever I wouldn't be surprised
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if this is just entirely to allay
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people's concerns just for the time
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being but like if humans aren't touching
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the wheel is good enough for me it
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doesn't matter if there's somebody in
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the front here your fried but it's still
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not quite the side it's not the magic
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moment when there's just nothing there
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it's not like KITT from Knight Riders
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and no no it's not kit from Knight Rider
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coming to pick you up here so that's why
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i was saying before like there's a bunch
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of asterisk around this but I'm still
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saying this is a functional self-driving
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car even if it's only in a confined area
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even if there's still somebody in the
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front seat is just another example to me
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of like working technology a little bit
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surprised still about the fast push for
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the individual taxes because I still
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always think like the low-hanging fruit
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on this is self-driving long-haul
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trucking like I really thought that
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would be the very first place that this
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happens even just like on the interstate
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self driving trucks you know going from
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like a depot outside of New York to a
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Depot outside of San Francisco and he
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show these these astronomers it was
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observatory press conference because
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this team has discovered that there is
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earth-sized planet orbiting the star
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Proxima Centauri which is the closest
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star to a son and its orbiting the star
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possibility of life you've got liquid
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that's the story and not show for people
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small starts a red dwarf star and
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away orbiting very slowly around the two
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bigger ones so there we go that's the
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exoplanets found automatically and i
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they have found around proxima centauri
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they haven't seen it they can't see it
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gravitational effect that this planet
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has on the star as it goes around just
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like the star has a huge effect on the
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planet the planet has a little effect on
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the star and the style balls a little
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this little wobble of the star causes a
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very slight movement in the light from
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the star will get red shifted or
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blue-shifted presumably relative to us
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and they measure this very accurately
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and from that they deduce a whole bunch
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of things about the planet which is
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seen the planet they just say it's there
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planet with jungles lots of people are
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good at marketing themselves are very
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aware of that and they never announce
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anything without artist impressions of
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everything to help
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pictures of this planet going around the
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star and views from its surface and all
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just all made up
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because people are always trying to up
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howarth like it could be and how good
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finding a planet in the habitable zone
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that is Earth like around the closest
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star to us it like ends the game in a
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of exoplanets oh yeah if you could find
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any exoplanet that would cause the most
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excitement it would be on the closest
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star to ask that's the easiest to get to
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and it wouldn't be some supergiant and
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it wouldn't be something you couldn't
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leave honor to be a rocky one where
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water could be liquid and that now
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they're saying they've got up so why I'm
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end of the world of exoplanet hunting
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and things like that
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obviously it's still just the beginning
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in a way this announcement has trumped
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everything any announcement that comes
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after this to me seems like kind of
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inferior doesn't like that's an
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this is Top Trumps this is the one this
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every announcement after this one is by
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definition boring our yeah it's like all
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could this have humans one day
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well yes but wouldn't we go to Proxima
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Centauri first we've already found one
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like right so that's one thing I thought
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it was if the nearest star to us has a
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planet like this is pretty much
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suggesting that planets our dime a dozen
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overs got a planet going around like
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this makes exoplanet seem incredibly
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unremarkable now important and
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interesting but it seems to me like
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these are just a thing there we no
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longer can be excited by this this is
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know doing physics and university that
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this is the thing that has gone from we
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speculate that there must be exoplanets
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physics in the UK remember trying to
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like we've the story for students about
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how like we used to not know and now we
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know there are a whole bunch of them but
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how frequent they are like we're just
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trying to raise the probability and the
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more frequent they seem to be then
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obviously the more likelihood there is
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that there's life somewhere but yes
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you're right if we've found one on the
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star that is closest to us it doesn't
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really prove anything from a statistical
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vantage point it certainly makes it feel
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like oh there must be planets around
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every star it must be almost impossible
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for a cloud of gas to condense into a
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star without planets
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yeah I like it must be almost improbable
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for that too not occur obviously bearing
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situations where you have multiple stars
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up and but yeah I don't you mean
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so the other thing and you kind of
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has got me thinking about and this is
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life elsewhere in the universe to be
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galaxy whatever I don't know where you
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stand on that likelihood of that you
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know whether you think it's almost
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inevitable it's highly unlikely but the
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thing that has made me realize the way
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this exoplanets have evolved in these
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announcements have happened is that if
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there is life somewhere else in the
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universe and humans discover it it's not
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going to be like Close Encounters of the
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Third Kind obviously we're a spaceship
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lands and they come out and say hello
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but will have now realized it's also not
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going to be like this incredible contact
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moment with jodie foster out amongst the
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satellite dishes
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it's just gonna be a gradual series of
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press releases its going to be we found
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this exoplanet now we found this one
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we've just found a signature that's
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characteristic of this gas now we found
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a signature that's character is this
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now we found some evidence that suggests
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this and we're just gonna get I think if
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we are to discover life elsewhere and
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it's to be announced
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we're just going to be weaned on to the
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idea and I think it's going to be
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surprisingly unremarkable when it
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what do you say that well you're talking
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about life elsewhere not intelligent
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life well I even intelligent life i
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think it could be sufficiently gradual
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it's going to be a series of press
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releases culminating with a press
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release from the species that were for
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getting in touch with yeah I do
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I think we're going to see bits of
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evidence that it could be hang on
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there's a one-percent chance that this
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then they're going to be backward steps
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to be quite gradual and the press
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conferences are going to be exciting for
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a day or two and then there's going to
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to be a tsunami and then there's going
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to be the Olympics and people are going
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to calm down about it and then there's
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going to be another press release and I
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think the realization that there is even
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intelligent life elsewhere when it
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finally happens is going to be quite
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different to what I imagined it might
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have been the dramatic moment that
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changed us forever who I don't think it
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is going to be that I think we're going
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to be quite blase about it by the time
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it happens and that's a controversial
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thing to say want not controversial
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maybe just a stupid thing to say but I
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suddenly think that I just think we are
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so hard to impress now as humans and the
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way science works is we kind of just
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everything sneaks up on us to the point
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that very little amazes us anymore
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before you suggested this I would agree
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with the idea that just like with most
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things even the announcement I'd like we
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know we found a planet and there's life
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I not intelligent life but we can see
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this creatures running around and plants
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yep i think most people wouldn't care
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like that the vast majority of people
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would be unmoved by this piece of
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information what you're talking even if
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it was like antelopes and trees not just
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yeah i think most people just sort of
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wouldn't care and i agree with you that
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we would almost certainly be walking
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close to that in a very slow ways it
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would be unremarkable i feel like i am
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convinced that if if we are in a
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situation where through our telescopes
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we discover intelligent life elsewhere
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that is unable to communicate with us
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for some reason right like other still
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building mud huts or whatever but
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they're obviously intelligent yeah I
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think you're right i could see a
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scenario where this is just because it's
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press releases is kind of boring and
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it's not actually that big of a deal
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it's because it's incremental if they
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tomorrow found mud huts on Mars it would
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but that's not how the mud huts will get
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found yeah but yeah that's exactly what
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we may be mud huts and maybe not mother
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hats and then you know but also if it's
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a situation where if there is no contact
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moment it becomes a thing that is just
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abstract in most people's life
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oh there's people building huts on
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planets elsewhere that we can't
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communicate with yeah okay as long as
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they're not gonna fire a laser right the
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White House I don't really care
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yeah like it doesn't affect things and I
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think that the vast majority of people
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have an amazing ability to not care
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about things that affect them directly
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and so yeah i agree with you that I can
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foresee a scenario where intelligent
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life is greeted with a met its discovery
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like okay or like this exoplanet story
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it's big news for three days and then
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something else happens and then it
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becomes a quiz question that you ask
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people what is the name of the star
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around which the first intelligent life
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was discovered yeah like oh I should
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know it actually yeah yeah yeah I also
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say sometimes wonder when I go
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especially when you go somewhere where
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you can see lots of stars and you're
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looking at them all weather in a
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thousand years humans the future dresses
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will look back at you and Mae and think
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how adorably cute it was that we used to
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look at the Stars and think maybe there
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wasn't anything up there and that the
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universe will be teeming with life and
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people will look back at us and think is
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not funny that you know Brady and
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cgpgrey used to look up at the sky and
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think are we alone maybe we are alone
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but if we're not and the universe is
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teeming with life we will seem so funny
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to them like we would seem so adorably
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naive that we used to look up at the sky
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and think it was all empty and there was
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nothing up there no one up there do you
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ever think about that
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I feel like surely we have touched upon
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this before but that you know we had
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that AI discussion a while back where I
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said this is a thing that I've changed
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my mind on and that has rocketed to like
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the top of the list of things that I am
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concerned about in the future
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yeah like the very top maybe I could
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list three things and i put AI and in
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that list of three things
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one of the other things that would be in
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that top 3 which ever since i became
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aware of it as has seemed like an
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incredible concern is the Fermi paradox
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this question of where is the other life
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in the universe and my take on it my
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starting assumption is that if there's
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life once there should be life more than
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once and the universe is really big so
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my gut feeling is there should be life
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everywhere but the Fermi paradox of
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course like why haven't we actually
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contacted anybody
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yeah and I think about it a lot I think
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it's a super super concerning question
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there's a couple of bland answers to it
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but I actually find the fact that we are
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at a point in our technology where we
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can conceivably receive messages and we
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can send messages over great great
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distances and we have got nothing back
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I think it is one of the most concerning
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things to think about when when you
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start thinking about it seriously
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so yeah I think about a lot and i find
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it worrying i find it deeply worrying i
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can see why you would think about a lot
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because it's really interesting and it's
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fun to think about
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I can see what worries you I can see why
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I worries you because I robot could come
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and rip your head off tomorrow right
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like or something could go wrong here on
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earth a bit like people you know just
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being selfish i don't see why the Fermi
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paradox worries you
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I can see why it perplexes you but I
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can't see why it would like I didn't use
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the word scared I can't see why would
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scare you or concerned you would just be
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like are like a crossword puzzle you
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can't solve its just oh gosh that's
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really tough i can't answer that
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why does it worry you it's concerning to
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me because one of the most probable
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conclusions to draw is that there is
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something in the universe which is anti
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civilization in some ways like the
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universe is more hostile to civilization
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then we would think that it is okay and
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and that there are very many things that
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cause that but it the the conclusion to
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draw is like the only civilizations that
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survive are the civilizations that don't
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broadcast their existence
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ok and we are broadcasting alex is right
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and we are broadcasting our existing so
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it's almost like the silence that's
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raining down on us from space scares you
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in the same way that if you walked into
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a city that was completely empty and
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quiet you would be scared you be
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thinking why the new people here was i
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quiet okay same space you're thinking
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why the hell is so quiet up there when I
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probably shouldn't be it is amazing that
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you pick that analogy because that is
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literally the feeling I have when I look
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at the sky sometimes there is a feeling
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of like we are one room lit in a city
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full of empty lights right like that is
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concerning that is a thing to note that
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maybe everybody else with the lights off
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knows something that we don't write or
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like they're not there for some reason
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but they were there is of course with
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all these things get into the realm of
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like things to speculate about and I
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know that that's good man that makes the
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night sky scary doesn't it that makes
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looking up at the night sky go from
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something that's beautiful and wonderful
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to something that's deeply deeply
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terrified I don't have it all the time
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the the closest i can compare this to is
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when i am in Hawaii and I look out at
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the ocean i have this feeling of vertigo
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that's very hard to explain but it's
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like this feeling of like this island is
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incredibly isolated from everywhere else
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yeah that is always when I'm in Hawaii
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so the night sky is not like that but it
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is a thing that when i look at the night
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sky if my mind starts going into that
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place like I do feel uncomfortable like
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there should be activity up here but
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there is nothing so great we often joke
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about if you were king of the world
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things you wouldn't wouldn't do if you
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were king of the world would you start
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imposing restrictions on what was
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getting away from Earth like sending
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messages out for start and maybe even
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sheltering arms general radio doors i
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would you send us to ground basically
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inside guys we need to shut the hell up
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let's put it this way i would at the
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very least form a team of people to look
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but give me a cost analysis of what kind
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of things in the world admit broadcast
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that could be heard you know ten
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light-years away like what equipment do
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we have on earth is doing that right now
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and what would it mean to ban this I
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wouldn't least look into it I wouldn't
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rule it out as I go this is just a crazy
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idea if it came back that we know we
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don't have an enormous amount of
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technology that is doing this and say
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like well maybe we should sit down the
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things that are I would look into it
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I'm not saying I would do anything about
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it if it came back and they said like oh
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we have to spend fifty percent of our
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gdp on this and be like okay well I have
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to weigh our potential destruction of
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civilization versus a loss of fifty
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percent of GDP and like maybe it's not
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sensible to do i would investigate I
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would investigate Brady that's what i
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would do what do you think of having
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people who are appointed to speak with
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aliens if they have a contact us
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well I mean what my view on it is ok you
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know you gotta you gotta plan for all of
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the scenarios but I i don't think the
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empty night sky holds a lot of promise
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for getting in touch with other aliens
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yeah there's a couple of reasons why the
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night sky might be empty that are benign
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but I feel like we've had city running
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for a long time obviously it's a big sky
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to search but I feel like if there was a
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civilization that came before us that we
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would know about it if they wanted to
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get in touch with us sort of like you
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know we mentioned the Guns Germs and
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Steel episode about how even on the same
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planet the technological difference
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between the Europeans and the Native
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Americans was just too vast to be
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overcome that in the universe if there's
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other intelligent life it you know
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statistically it's very unlikely that we
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are the first I mean even if you imagine
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a civilization that's 200 years ahead of
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where we are now since technological
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progress is exponential it seems like
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they should have borderline magic
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technology and so if they wanted to get
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they could get in touch I think maybe
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they could then maybe they're just
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waiting for something maybe they're
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waiting for us to solve the Riemann
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hypothesis other waiting for us to do
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our first work drive out of
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after World War three I would be
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comfortable with you being on that
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committee grey I wouldn't mind you being
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one of the people who speaks for us as
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inhuman as I think you are I think you'd
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be a good person for that I allow you to
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be on that committee I think you would
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make wise kohls oh yeah i feel very
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flattered but I'm not sure that would
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necessarily be a good car to have me
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on that group of people now why would
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you not be a good person to speak with
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what is it about you that is a short
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coming or deficiency
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I think my difficulty of speaking with
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humans does not bode well
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two nights ago that's your strength not
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astray because they're not hearing us
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that's one of the reasons I think you'd
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be so good that's the reason i think i
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would be terrible i would be the worst
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person because I wouldn't be able to
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resist making a joke or like saying so
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Joe ironic i could be in the wrong mode
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or bit Moody and a bit grumpy and I'd
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say something I shouldn't say or like
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they could not treat me with sufficient
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respect because you have that respect
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yeah at least you acknowledge your
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insurer comics in that way but I think
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you are immune to all those things you
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have a lack of humanity for lack of a
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better term would be a great strength
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you wouldn't do anything rash you would
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I don't think he'd be over ordered I
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think you do it well great iight you're
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in love okay i want you to do it i
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wanted to i didn't realize you were you
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were in charge of making the selection
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but I guess it's good to have the people
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making that decision be secretive but so
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thank you for putting me on the
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committee i gotta i will try to be
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prepared for a scenario that i think is
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incredibly unlikely
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yeah let's just hope it doesn't happen
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during your month-long and your vacation
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just right yeah that's true if you're
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sending me a message in August that the
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aliens have landed on earth it is very
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likely that 1i will not receive your
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message and 2i have missed that news
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I will not be aware of this so yes 11
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months out of the year good that was
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sort of land on the lawn of the white
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house and we'll say can you just wait
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two weeks we're gonna race studies do
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yes but like i said i think that is the
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vastly less likely probability more
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likely probability is sudden
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inexplicable death descends from the sky
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and consumes the earth that's more
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likely yeah that's just that's going to
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be bad but anyway that's funny thing
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about this exoplanet the right like I
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feel like this somehow changes the
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calculus a little bit like what's your
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gut feeling do you think there's life on
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this planet any kind of life not
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intelligent life absolutely not and
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there's been a few things that have been
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less well reported about this discovery
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ok tell me tell me one being that the
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star a red dwarf stars particular red
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dwarf star Proxima Centauri is quite a
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hostile star it sends out a lot of
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flares it's not as friendly as a son if
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you want to call this unfriendly which
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is an interesting calling itself so it's
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very hostile now it was probably more
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hostile before so any chance of life
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being there is probably being constantly
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quashed or has been quashed in the past
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any atmosphere may well have been
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obliterated it would not be a very life
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conducive place lots of astronomer terms
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like earth-like and habitable do not
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mean like the earth or write that can be
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habit of that we think say I think it's
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very unlikely there's life on this
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planet and so far most of the experts
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I've heard talk about it have said
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similar things it's only like the normal
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news that talks about things like I the
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possibility of life or bay the
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possibility of us are going there like
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some kind of noah's ark but yeah the
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second possibility is dumb
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I mean I forget Alpha Centauri is what
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like four light-years away yeah it's
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obvious the system's about for
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approximately bit over four light-years
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away right okay so yeah it going there
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obviously not a realistic probability
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when I think about life existing i
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always think about the extreme files you
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know that these like little bacteria or
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creatures that live in seemingly
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shockingly hostile environments like the
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things living at the bottom of the ocean
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by those trenches
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yeah we're 3 where you have water that
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can't boil even though it's hundreds and
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hundreds of degrees in temperature
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because of the pressure as I oh but
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creatures that live in this environment
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that's kind of what I'm thinking about
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like oh if there's a planet if there's
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water it just seems to me like water so
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dramatically increases the probability
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help me understand that then because I
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never understand this like I always
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think it's arrogant that we assume life
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is so intrinsically linked to water and
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therefore if they've got liquid water on
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you know you've got laughs what is so
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special about water that connects it to
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life in terms that are arrogant and just
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aren't like what every sort of life
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we've ever seen before involves water
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because that seems very narrow-minded
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today that is narrow-minded but my view
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of it is this is a kind of
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anthropomorphic viewpoint here where
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we're talking about
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we know that on earth water is important
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for life on Earth and so it seems to me
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quite reasonable to extract from that
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that where else there is liquid water
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there is the possibility of life right
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and so I mean at least my understanding
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of it with chemistry is that water acts
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as this agent that allows vastly more
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chemical interactions to occur and so if
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you just have a place where there's
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water you're going to get more random
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chemistry and all you need is like a
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prion like just a chemical that
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reproduces itself through total random
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chance just by combining with other
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chemicals in the same environment like
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that's all you need to get this ball
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rolling downhill that will slowly slowly
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accelerate overtime and so that's why I
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think like Oh once there's water my gut
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instinct is there's something in there
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that's like life even if it's very very
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very basic you know like bacteria virus
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level kind of reproduction but that's
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kind of my gut feeling
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yeah but of course we have a sample size
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of one this is the whole thing right
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maybe life is incredibly rare
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maybe it's not we just don't know we
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don't have any real way to know but I
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leaned on the side of i think it is more
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rare that's my personal guess anyway I
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was having a bit of a read about this
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area and you know proxima centauri and
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and plans to travel there and how we
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could go there and obviously there are
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all sorts of things that are put out
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their suggestions and one that i was
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reading about that got a bit of
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publicity a while ago but it kind of
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passed me by and I had never read much
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about it before but I read a bit about
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it today it was cold breakthrough
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starshot and it was this one wasn't you
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know it was yuri milner the venture
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capitalists and stephen hawking was
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involved you know every time anyone
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makes a billion dollars a straightaway
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start some kind of space operation
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apparently that's what to do now here
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that's what you do and all these people
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involved is upon and i was reading about
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the concept and the concept i think is
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basically to create a swarm of these
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tiny little space ships that are like
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measured in centimeters across each one
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with a a lifestyle of about sort of four
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meters in size and you send them all up
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into a sort of high up to know just
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above the earth and then you open up
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these sales and then you fire these
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incredibly incredibly powerful lasers at
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these light sales and then you send off
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all of these this swarm of thousands and
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thousands of spacecraft at speeds of
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about i think it's ten or twenty percent
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speed of light so ridiculous spades you
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send them off to the Latino Proxima
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Centauri Alpha Centauri and they go past
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and hopefully get a few pictures or
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whatever on the way past and it's this
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like you notice we incredible incredible
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thing i was reading about on this squat
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small wikipedia page and my favorite
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thing was then the last subheading on
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the wikipedia page was technical
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challenges i think is the road in like
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four or five sentences some of the
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technical challenges you have making a
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swarm of spaceships gonna get twenty
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percent the speed of life after being
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fired from lasers from their people
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they're so Curt about at the end says
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according to the economist at least a
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dozen of the off-the-shelf technologies
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will need to improve by orders of
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magnitude this tablet and sometimes
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wikipedia is wonderful with
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understatement as well as a social
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yes wikipedia does have sometimes at the
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lego and understated sarcasm for some
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years these articles which I do this
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love i love the idea of swarm because if
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you're thinking is sending a swarm of
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spaceships because inevitably a whole
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bunch will get knocked out but who all
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the stuff you bump into on the way so
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it's just increasing your odds by
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sending a swarm i love that I love the
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idea that maybe no one would make it
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into immortality one of these little to
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call them star chips one of these little
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statues would make it take that picture
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was this also to me really touches upon
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the whole idea if we ever do have first
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it seems inevitable that it's going to
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be contact through essentially an
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autonomous system if something lands on
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earth to say hello and welcome to the
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universe we are an intelligent life it
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seems so unlikely to me that it's going
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to be a living alien is going to
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essentially be an autonomous probe of
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some kind and there's this idea that
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we're sending out a whole bunch of
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little tiny space ships out there and
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into the into the universe
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it seems to me like a similar idea like
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if you want to try to get in touch with
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other life forms like and you want to
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have a physical thing go that way you
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have to build little autonomous ships
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send them out into the universe and i
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think that's that's how if anything ever
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lands on earth that's the way it's going
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to be you know and I think if we're ever
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going to get serious into the space
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exploration game it seems like well
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obviously what we're going to do with
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some point is build little
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self-replicating spaceships and send
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them out into the universe right now
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we'll build a little thing just like we
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have 3d printers now build a machine
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that can replicate itself send it off
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into the universe to do exploration
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little pre-recorded message little
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Nylund gay flag little tiny healing gear
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yeah but that is also related to my AI
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concern one of the very reasons why I
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worry about something that destroy
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I can imagine some programming going
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wrong right and ships that reproduce
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themselves infinitely competing with
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other ships that reproduce themselves
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infinitely and suddenly you have just a
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turf war for resources in the universe
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and machines that just turn planets into
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machines that explore the universe
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endlessly for no real purpose you know
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what what is pioneer isn't that has that
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big gold record attached to the Pioneer
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probe we could attach our episode alvine
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or episode 21 of these probes that gets
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sent out there so haven't seen the
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episode like landing on Proxima Centauri
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B the exoplanet mention that this is the
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vision of the end of the universe a
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robot that reproduces itself to explore
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the universe carrying a vinyl record of
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hello internets all across the skies
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devouring all before it I tell you what
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that would be aware did you listen to
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hello internet photo that would surpass
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air crash investigation i listen to it
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as the harbinger of the end of my
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all right grace o been another good
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episode along with going and asking
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people to have a look at excellent album
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we can actually set home workout which
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we haven't done for a while
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yeah we haven't done it for a long time
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but I have to say we get asked to watch
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movies and by far and away the
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number-one request from people is a
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movie called we were debating about how
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to pronounce we believe it is pronounced
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ex machina or X machinima but i'm going
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with ex machina as in days ex machina
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this is by far and away the number one
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most requested movie for us to watch and
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for us to talk about and since today we
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kind of touched on AI a little bit i
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think this is the time we're going to
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assign this for homework for the
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listeners so we're going to talk about
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probably next episode so you might want
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to have watched it yeah probably next
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episode so put a link in the show notes
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for people to find it easily as always
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with movies with every single movie I
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always just recommend
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you watch it without really learning
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anything about it
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just watch a cold and we will discuss it
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probably next time for sure
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I still have this picture of your hand
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holding the broken tooth brush open up
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on my screen I feel like he would make a
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beautiful iphone background
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