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00:00:00 ◼   ► I don't feel they're now I didn't know [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► this needs to happen now really ok they [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► can go to that mr. things we say we do [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► it next time they grow as grow to about [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► 5,000 things [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► what's this one in the show and see [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► dinosaurs because they go extinct or not [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► this friend of Mines boyfriend of all [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► the things are now about him and all [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► those skills and things he exhibits [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► about himself his ability to clap loudly [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► is perhaps his greatest skill like it's [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► noticeable like if you're in a group of [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► people and everyone claps people will [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► look at him and think wow you are an [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► amazing clapper it's like his gift from [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► god i'm trying to think about how to [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► interpret the thing that you have just [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► said as in the best thing that he does [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► is clap he does nothing in his life [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► better than his clapping yeah which you [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► could you could read that two ways that [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► there's not much else to him authorize [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► an amazing clapper and I think we should [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► go with the amazing clapping given the [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► benefit of the doubt he's just an [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► uncommon Lee good clap basically the [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► story in summary is I know a guy who's [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► really good at clapping that's the story [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► but but I almost think if you stand out [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► in a crowd with your clapping I think [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► you're bad at clapping I don't know [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► better drawing attention to yourself as [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► as as clapping in exceptionally unusual [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► notable way you are drawing attention [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► from whatever is supposed to be being [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► clapped at to yourself and then you're a [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► bad clapper imagine that being like a [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► stadium and someone does a song and [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► everyone starts clapping and then this [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► person starts clapping so with everyone [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► that turns away from the stage and [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► starts clapping the clapper this is [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► larry that then you are a bad clapper [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► you're battling the air [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► i mean i-i maybe you're right i don't [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► know maybe maybe a row [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► maybe you should maybe he's too good a [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► clapper maybe it maybe his strength is [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► in fact his weakness right this is like [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► a reverse Maryland flag right he's so [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► good at clapping he's now bad a clapping [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► yeah I don't know about you but i find [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► the clapping is sometimes burdensome and [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► performances like why do I have to clap [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► all the time with this performance are [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► gnarly just watching a thing [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► lots of times I just sort of don't clap [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► but i try to shift my position to hide [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► it i don't want to clap plenty of people [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► in this room are clapping why do I have [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► to clap why do we have to clap every [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► five minutes if you're going to the [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► trouble of shifting your position and [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► putting in all that effort wouldn't have [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► been easier to have just clapped with [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► clapping you're hitting your hands [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► against each other you know you can make [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► the delicate skin raw if you're clapping [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► along performance I don't know if I feel [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► like clapping is just a lot of burden my [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► achilles hear the clapping is is a song [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► by the band muse cold style light which [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► all the audience laughter clapping along [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► with because it's got quite an unusual [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► bait and I cannot clap in time with the [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► bait and everyone around me because I've [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► seen use lots of times in concert [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► everyone around is doing this intricate [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► clap and it looks amazing all the crowd [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► doing in sync and it sounds amazing and [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► and I'm like I wanna be part of this [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► amazing thing and I'm just there like [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► seven some monkey that can't quite do it [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► right now like I go oh and like and then [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► I think everyone's looking at me and I [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► just put my hands by my side and then I [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► think I know but everyone around to be [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► clapping and I'm not and that song is my [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► power frustrates me such a good song [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► can i clap to it so there's some kind of [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► rhythm that you're supposed to reproduce [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► hear that was just thinking you you fail [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► at this [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► yeah it's got some way I music can you [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► demonstrate for me now operating know i [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► can go into the sewing starlight by muse [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► it's got this weird you know three 2313 [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► pattern or something it's got this [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► unusual pattern that you collect to and [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► like when I break it down [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► I and like I think about it I can sort [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► of get it for one or two like for 10 [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► seconds or 20 seconds and then I lose it [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► again and its really embarrassing it's [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► like it's a big joke to in my wife my [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► inability to to clap to this song that [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► is adorable and charming and told we're [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► looking yeah i'm being able to clap [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► it's always a big moment when they put [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► their playing at Glastonbury this year [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► so hopefully i'll be there for that and [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► it and when nice play that song it's [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► always a big moment and I feel the [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► pressure and file again maybe you should [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► practice that i'm reading now maybe I [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► should get this awesome clip made of [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► mine to come 11 [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► yeah take all the attention here I don't [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► know what his timings like he just gets [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► incredible volume right and too much [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► volume it's no good if you ever watch a [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► political broadcast like the state of [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► the union address in America is the [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► perfect thing for this if you watch the [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► audience as opposed to watching the [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► actual speech was going on when they pan [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► over to people doing the collapse [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► you'll see [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► sometimes people pull this trick where [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► they're on camera right there on TV so [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► it has to look like they're clapping [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► they can't like me and you know try to [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► hide it or just not do it so you'll see [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► people put one hand in the other and [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► just shake their they're joined fists up [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► and down max it's like from afar it will [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► look like they're clapping [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► but if the camera ever goes to close on [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► some people you could see like how [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► they're doing this fake laugh but [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► they're not actually clapping they're [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► tired they don't want to do it and I [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► know I have a lot of sympathy for those [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► there's a show you on the baby see that [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► I'm sure you don't watch it so I think [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► once a week called question time and [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► they have four or five famous people [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► normally three or four politicians and [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► then maybe one or two other high-profile [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► people and people from the audience [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► asked it's quite small audience about [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► maybe hundred people will ask questions [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► about the news of the wake and then they [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► sort of some of them will then have a [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► stab at answering it and my friends [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► actually call this the clap clap show [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► because basically what happens is the [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► people just will say something to try [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► get the audience to clap them and [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► they're always such obvious platitudes [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► like someone will say I think racism is [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► wrong and we should all stand together [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► and fighter and the audience a low ball [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► clap together and then the next to the [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► next person will say you know so and [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► they're always such a hollow sentiments [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► to get clap and i always think the worst [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► thing in the world for someone must be [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► sometimes you see people make a speech [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► where they're so obviously going for the [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► clap clap moment when they say something [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► they think is gonna rouse a big clap and [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► it submit by at a stone-cold Silas and [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► you've really got to be doing something [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► wrong to get cold silence on the clap [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► clap show and I always feel really sorry [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► for those people I tell you I'll tell [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► you who are people under pressure you [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► know when politicians do speeches [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► particularly during elections and the [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► link thing these days is to have people [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► behind you rather than American flags [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► and stuff you the president you have [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► American flags behind you but if you're [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► running for office you have like a crowd [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► of people behind you [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► oh he's so weird and I have to look so [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► happy and they have to look so emotional [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► that they often don't like whenever [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► whenever you see someone giving a speech [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► and there's people standing behind them [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► or beside them [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► I find my attention is totally drawn to [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► the bystander like I going to blink are [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► you going to look aside at the wrong [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► kommentar anyone of you going to sneeze [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► in opportunely how comfortable are you [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► just standing there for maybe half an [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► hour or an hour i just find it so weird [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► and distracting to have people around [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► like I guess it's supposed to send a [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► message of solidarity to the viewer or [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► something but i just find it weird like [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► can we just have a background [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► couldn't you just be in front of a green [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► screen or something i'd much prefer that [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► I mean it's obviously been researched [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► and focus group to death side obviously [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► and I don't do it so obviously they have [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► to do it i completely agree like I'm [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► sure that it is effective and that's [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► precisely why they did what is like oh [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► guess what groups of people like to see [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► groups of people right [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► yeah that that's that's why it happens [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► but i just find it distracting if I ever [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► see a speech and there's people standing [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► around them [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► it's we are super weird I always podcast [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► with a group of 50 people standing [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► behind me don't do that okay no I call [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► up the video you'll see them now I [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► decided to make I just tell them to make [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► sure they're quiet [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► thank you they're off camera before we [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► started so I don't see them i really [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► appreciate that I I tell them to clap [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► whatever I say something they like and [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► they never do for Brady yeah if we ever [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► do a live podcast i hope i hope people [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► clap you uh yeah that'd be brilliant I [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► would just completely cave to cheer [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► pressure and I talked about how great [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► SpaceX is and always sort of stuff and I [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► just play for the clap eclipse once the [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► crowds there you gotta you gotta play [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► for your audience speaking of cheer [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► pressure last episode we were discussing [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► it we were stumbling around attempting [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► to try to come up with a definition of [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► sorts for this word which and I quite [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► liked and I just want to say someone in [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► the reddit is part of follow-up here put [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► in a definition that I thought was a [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► pretty good working definition and so [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► they said cheer pressure the active [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► urging i'm going to change this slightly [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► here because they said a public figure I [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► think you clarified something and you [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► were right its figures in public like [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► anybody's saying something in public so [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► yeah the active urging a figure in [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► public to only emphasize the positive [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► aspects of an issue when they discuss it [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► caused by fear of any potential [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► repercussions from the dispersal of [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► unbalanced or negative information and I [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► quite like this i think it's a it's a [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► good place to start [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► mmm [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► you don't like it I think it's actually [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► I mean a lot of the problem a lot of [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► people had with cheer pressure was a [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► thought it was peer pressure they [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► couldn't tell the difference between [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► cheer pressure and peer pressure and I [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► think the difference is obvious but peer [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► pressure is a very old encompassing term [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► yeah there's your pressure is a like a [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► under the Venn diagram like cheer [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► pressure is a circle inside peer [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► pressure it's a subset of peer pressure [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► exactly but at but what I think this [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► person has defined as perhaps another [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► subset of cheer pressure because i think [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► it's not necessarily just caused by a [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► fear of any potential repercussions like [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► I think it's a big subset I think that's [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► often the reason people applied shear [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► pressures because they like don't say [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► something bad about SpaceX because I [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► don't know space exploration will stop [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► like say some people do feel that but i [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► think that i think there are other [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► reasons for cheer pressure to I think it [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► can sometimes it can just be you know [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► bullying can just pay it can just be you [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► know just sheer enthusiasm and refusal [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► to believe that other people are [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► enthusiastic so I don't think it's [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► always caused by fear of potential [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► repercussions [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► I think I think they've gone too far [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► with their definition so this is like [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► this is really like the third definition [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► down on a dictionary definition and you [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► think there should be some bullet points [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► above it [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► yeah I know I think I'm if I think I've [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► come up with a definition for a new word [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► that means another hard done by doing [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► this Brady told start doing this they're [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► there they're more like they're more [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► like it's going to involve suppression [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► somehow doesn't a cheer suppression [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► notice other night you know i don't like [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► this is testing in my ability to make up [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► words so I go I'm gonna let that one go [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► but I I think I I admire the definition [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► and I enjoy the conversation but I think [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► they've gone too far by attaching a very [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► specific motive to the cheer pressure [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► well what while you while you may find [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► yourself here limited by your ability to [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► come up with a new word i have to [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► absolutely commend your unintentional [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► prediction abilities from our last show [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► when you let you know an intentional [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► yes an intensive well you threw [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► something out there and you got lucky [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► what did you throw i really like 3i [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► through two things out there and what [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► they were both on the mark my friend [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► this is this is obviously referring to [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► boaty mcboatface blue and in our last [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► episode I said that perhaps a better [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► decision would be to name a small vessel [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► on the ship [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► boaty mcboatface mhm and I also said [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► they'll probably go for a name of you [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► know something more safe and prestigious [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► and I did mention it could be named [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► after David Attenborough lit the science [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► TV presenter and days after a podcast [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► was released at you know what happened [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► there named after David Attenborough and [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► they called the little mini submarine [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► that's going to do the swimming around [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► off the ship [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► boaty mcboatface say the name lives on a [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► small sub vessel it's such an incredible [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► coincidence that i can only assume that [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► it's not a coincidence and just like the [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► New Zealand flag referendum the hello [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► Internet podcast was actually the [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► driving force behind what occurred here [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► I think someone on the committee heard [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► would use that on the podcast and went [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► moves it to happen / yeah that's great [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► that's perfect i I'm gonna I'm gonna say [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► that the hell original podcast is [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► responsible for this [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► I'm sure David Attenborough was kicking [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► around in lots of places as well before [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► I mentioned it but I will say this and [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► I'm going to be controversial and i'm [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► going to riskier pressure [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► oh I don't like that they've named after [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► David Attenborough yeah and i know [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► that's a controversial thing to say but [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► I said it [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► why is a controversial breathing [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► obviously everyone loves David [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► Attenborough not just in Britain [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► probably around the world is that as a [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► science presenter and I think naming the [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► ship after him is basically the [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► old establishment equivalent of boaty [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► mcboatface it's like just the that's [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► another like it's just what you would [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► expect just like you expect the internet [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► to come up with a funny name if you let [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► them to a power right you expect [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► politicians to name the ship after not [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► like a great scientist right but a [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► famous science person and I know a lot [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► about David Attenborough I know his [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► background in science so you don't need [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► to all message me and tell me about his [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► qualifications and what he did I know I [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► know quite a bit about him and he's not [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► like a great scientist he's in great [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► great science communicator and he's been [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► a magnificent ambassador for science [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► right but but i think he gets enough [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► public recognition like you come in you [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► can at least he's turning 90 this year [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► and this TV shows about him all the time [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► and he's got a million honors and and [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► they're all deserved and I'm I'm really [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► happy for him and I think he's fantastic [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► but this was a chance to I i don't think [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► i should have membership after a person [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► myself like why I quite like vessels to [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► be named things like discovery or terra [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► nova which incidentally are both very [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► famous polar exploration vessels which [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► could have been used for the name for [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► this but I like things like that or they [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► could have named after like someone who [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► did amazing science in the polar regions [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► not someone who you know has gone and [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► presented nice shows about penguins but [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► and and I didn't they did they did [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► something that they knew would be really [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► popular really safe and no one will [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► criticize it except me because you're [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► not allowed to say anything negative [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► about David Attenborough so marvelous [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► why do you hate David Attenborough baby [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► why do you hate him so high who's dad [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► he's everybody's grandparent now and [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► he's like but i just think it was a do [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► you think it was pandering like is it is [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► it sounds like you think it's pandering [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► in a way [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► well it was playing it safe and it was [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► pandering a bit i don't know it was [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► disliked it was just like if you were [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► going to go if you went up to someone [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► who knew nothing about science and only [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► watch TV shows and said all we're going [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► to name a ship what are we going to name [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► a unanimous we have a science ship [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► what are we going to cola we're going to [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► call it the david attenborough the Brian [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► Cox at night right there the only to [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► science things people can think of and I [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► think that's a shame they could have [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► named after someone who i'm struggling [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► to come up with the name because I don't [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► know much that Polly reason that's it [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► that's where we're going with this right [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► is like you want you want authenticity [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► and obscurity here right that's that's [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► what you're looking for i know you're [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► looking for the vessel to have some name [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► that nobody outside of the Arctic [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► research community will ever know about [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► or ever here [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► oh ok yeah i could say call it the scott [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► then the Robert Scott but that's [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► probably a bit cliché to because you [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► know he's the most famous British polar [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► explorer always easy but yeah you know [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► Scott the Antarctic the hey everybody [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► here that's got like I draw a total [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► blank on that like okay it should be [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► like after it's got like the Scottish [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► people are already talking about i have [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► no idea i think you vastly overestimate [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► the name recognition of Explorer I think [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► I think I mean I know you're a really [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► smart guy and you know lots of stuff but [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► Scott of the Antarctic his famous like [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► not a lot of people probably don't know [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► is ok but let me ask you like hey like I [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► know you say famous right but again i [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► will remind you that you are a science [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► communicator who works almost [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► exclusively with people in the science [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► world like how many people do you think [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► you you need to pull aside on a high [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► street before you get one person who [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► knows the name Robert Scott ok i'm going [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► to say like a thousand people i'm going [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► to say a thousand people are know if you [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► go if you got the outer than yay i think [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► i think my Allah all I'm saying is [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► you're standing on the high street and [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► like you're pulling aside people at [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► random [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► I think one in a thousand will know who [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► Robert Scott it's okay with my goods i [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► think it would be better than that but i [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► think i'm not saying he's like a [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► household name sounds like we have a [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► hello Internet Tim research project with [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► someone to do I don't necessarily think [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► even error [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► their audiences that is the best example [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► for this but but but I mean is some [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► dedicated team could go on the high [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► street and everything you know who her [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► father it's got that is [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► hey you know he famously was in this [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► race to the South power in the in 1912 i [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► believe it was it was okay you know when [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► it with a Munson and Shackleton and all [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► these people that these are the big [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► names of them Antarctic except [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► Antarctica like Shackleton's the name I [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► recognize okay well Shackleton and Scott [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► were contemporaries they did they did [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► some research together as well so Scott [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► was the letter names thats got Scott [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► famously his second mission to [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► antarctica ice and particularly [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► knowledgeable on this could actually [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► make a video about yesterday so [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► apathetic but I didn't know Scott of the [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► Antarctic before that [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► uh-huh he's right he's famous because he [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► had this really really ill-fated mission [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► on the terra nova and they got stuck [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► there and they they all starved and he [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► actually did make it to the South Pole [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► but he got there just after the others [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► had gotten there than I think it was the [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► Norwegians just beat him so the second [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► place [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► yeah second place first loser he died on [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► the the trip back and said it was [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► fabulous and really famous story tragic [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► famous stories from history who [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► certainly most British people would know [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► Scott the Antarctic older british people [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► young people don't know anything but but [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► but out of british people would have [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► would now from schools and stuff like [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► that it but it but he's so famous they [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► don't teach him to young people anymore [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► like what like 44 proposition here look [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► as i'm not saying he get okay well you [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► go ahead let's call it David [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► Attenborough because he's on TV and [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► people have heard of him [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► I'm saying scott is like a great story [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► he's really really pegged to Antarctica [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► he's the most famous person I could [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► think of is really pegged to anchor yeah [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► it does it does it is very clear I'm not [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► arguing that Scott isn't a better name [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► I'm just I'm just trying to get you to [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► acknowledge the total obscurity that [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► name would be to the vast majority of [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► the population i'm not i'm not giving [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► you total obscurity i'm giving you i'm [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► giving you it's a name of [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► people weren't no but I if if we're [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► going to say Scott of the Antarctic is [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► total obscurity then we might as well [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► give up we might we might as well call a [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► boaty mcboatface it's the anything you [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► have you have such high expectations for [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► the general level of knowledge in in [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► like the average member of the [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► population Brady I think it's always [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► it's always charming to me that you [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► think it's natural you have this finger [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► you have such faith no i don't and i [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► know that how you're talking to someone [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► who has for his job has spent many years [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► pulling strangers off the street [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► interviewing them i'm well aware how [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► little people know who and I don't think [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► many people would know who Robert Scott [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► is they certainly wouldn't know he's his [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► name was Robert they were just know [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► Scott everyone just knows him Scott em [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► but I do think he's like what's the word [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► if you're not if not everyone knows you [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► can't call a famous but he's he's highly [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► noteworthy he means the wikipedia [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► notability guidelines [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► oh yeah like apparently the hello [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► Internet podcast is not i think way more [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► people know about the hello engine 45 [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► gap but no matter Robert Scott that is [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► not true that is not very gray he i'm [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► looking at robert scott's wikipedia page [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► now and it's just how many edits does it [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► have I don't have to find that out but [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► its massive [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► it's big look all I want though Holly 10 [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► saying this is what the old guard wanted [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► this is what they've done like a popular [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► science communicator with them all i [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► want i will be able to die happy if when [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► the current crop of people listening to [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► hello internet when they become the old [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► guard if there is some science vessel of [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► any sort some science spaceship perhaps [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► to be named I wanted to name it the [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► Brady McCarron face sculpt the Antarctic [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► you should know who he is but why should [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► what will you use this word should in [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► such a funny way what do you mean by [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► should I should know who he is I think a [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► knowledgeable person should know who he [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► is [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► ok who was the first man to set foot on [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► the moon Neil Armstrong who was the [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► first person to the top of Mount Everest [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► I don't know when that was edmund [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► hillary and sherpa tenzing Tenzing [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► ok you know Edmund Hillary preferably [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► well now that you say the name edmund [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► hillary and I'll take your word that he [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► was the first person I'd up on top of [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► Everest but like i don't i don't know [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► you're at your iight overestimate what [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► people know that if cgpgrey does not [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► know the name of the first person on top [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► of Mount Everest then I I'm out of touch [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► with reality [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► I think you are I really had you are you [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► want to going like that like I'm not [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► messing with you no no don't like you [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► can ask questions and i will try to [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► answer them [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► well i was gonna make and I was going to [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► make up an amazing point but you ruined [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► it but now you're the first person on [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► top of Mount Everest was it you doing my [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► finely crafted argument so i'll just [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► give up because i was going to say I [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► think it's a tragedy that everyone knows [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► the first person on the moon the first [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► person i've met Everest but that don't [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► know for example the first person to the [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► South Pole you're on let's just call [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► this time everything after TV presenters [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► if you want things that are well now and [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► that's what you gotta do what you gotta [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► if you don't want things that are well [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► known who cares hello internet you know [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► who's a famous explorer that everyone [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► should know about [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► that's kermit roosevelt who as you know [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► tim was part of the first team to fully [TS]

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00:25:03 ◼   ► end of this ad have another piece of [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► follow-up here that i thought was [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► interesting from our last episode so we [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► were discussing last time a bunch of [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► stuff about the law right and warrants [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► and and all of this and there was a [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► moment where we were both a little bit [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► uncertain because you are asking a [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► question about can in trials can you be [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► compelled to give testimony [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► yeah and we're both little bit confused [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► because we were saying like always it is [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► it part of the pre-trial system where [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► this is happening and then of course [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► like what we see on television like it [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► seems like people are compelled to give [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► testimony and I we actually had an [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► American Lawyer leave some feedback on [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► the reddit which I thought was really [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► interesting and and brought up a little [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► distinction that i was unaware of that [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► in the United States system [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► you cannot be compelled to incriminate [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► yourself [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► yeah but it stops there and and i think [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► i am my mind had this model that this [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► idea was kind of muddled up with this [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► idea of like the taking the fifth like [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► oh you don't have to talk but you can be [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► compelled to testify if you are giving [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► testimony against someone [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► else and that's probably what we're [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► thinking of what we were sort of [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► confused on with that matter last time [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► well this is why i was confused be as [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► well because this is obviously a big [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► deal for journalists who have to protect [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► sources and I actually know a journalist [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► in adelaide where I'm from who went to [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► jail because he would not reveal a [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► source who he was [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► the court ordered him and he wouldn't do [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► it and he had to go and do some time [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► this is where the confusion came from [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► but obviously this has been if this [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► person is right this this clarifies that [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► all you can only keep stomp if it's [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► yourself is going to get in trouble when [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► you talk and if you're doing it to [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► protect others that's not good enough [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► I thought there was an interesting point [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► and just want to bring that up here and [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► you once again use the phrase that I [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► meant to ask you last time keep stump [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► what is this radios don't know how [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► you're supposed to jump so i don't have [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► to look at but it just means it just [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► means stay quiet like if everyone's you [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► should know what that means because [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► you're a big one for keeping stomp if [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► we're in a group of people and [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► everyone's speaking their mind you're [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► quite often the one who just keeps [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► jumping not say anything [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► it's not that I don't have anything to [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► say I'm not getting groups our hangout [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► it looks like the that the the word the [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► proper where he stormed not stop [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► ok so this is just a brady word that you [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► keep stomping well I was closed doors i [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► think an educated person that know how [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► to say stoom [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► yeah yeah ash door it's an Australian [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► ism to add a page we like adding pays to [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► the end always it i think i just think [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► you're trying to pull your butt out of [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► the fire on his 10 yeah Australia we at [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► p's at the end of everything he wasn't [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► really up a storm is an adjective [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► it's an informal adjective remains [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► silent non-communicative speaking of [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► sayings by the way i'll be many to say [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► this for a while because I i think i've [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► mentioned it before but i think a lot of [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► people don't realize that the term black [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► stump by the way who is a various famous [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► Australian term I don't nobody know you [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► look at you with your liberal use of the [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► word famous know this is famous [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► ok there is that there is a set there is [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► a stray lien isn't me if there is an [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► Australian ism called beyond the black [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► stump it's a saying and it made it means [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► anything that's far away like out in the [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► bush so if something's beyond the black [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► stump [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► I think it means it's like too far away [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► let me check it out it's even got a [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► Wikipedia page i know that's a book [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► that's a book called it's a book called [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► beyond the Blackstone but are we on the [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► disambiguation page again you know how I [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► feel about that you've already lied to [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► hear we got them and its really an [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► Australian expression black stump is a [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► name for an imaginary point beyond which [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► the country is considered remote or [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► uncivilized so if you go beyond the [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► black stump it means you've gone out [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► into the bush and there's no Wi-Fi so [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► obviously when they built this sort of [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► monolithic black building and Adelaide [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► that's where that's why i got called the [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► black stopped because they were riffing [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► off this famous Australian saying and I [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► just thought that was worth putting out [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► there okay [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► he is setting the record straight that's [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► what i thought it was interesting i [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► think people but some people probably [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► think it was really strange that this [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► building i always talk about is called [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► the black stamp and I thought effort was [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► worth adding a little bit more context [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► to where that name came from a little [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► bit more clarity huh dad and it means [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► we've talked about the black stump in [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► yet another episode of Hello internet [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► how do those t-shirt sales go [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► do you know what did I k they did I k @ [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► I've got I've got mine that's all that [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► really matters [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► ok and i and i am going to add later [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► this year and don't think I'm not going [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► to be taken that t-shirt and taking a [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► photo at the prudential center i look [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► forward to seeing it on twitter i wonder [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► what the people who like work in the [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► black stuff will think if I just left [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► turn up at reception wearing that [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► t-shirt just say that a shit [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► well again given the way you draw on the [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► black stump and given the way it [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► actually looks they won't recognize it [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► they don't know what you're talking [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► about [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► why are you asking us about your [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► t-shirts are it makes no sense [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► yeah we love working here but why he got [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► a picture of the sears terrible teacher [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► and I still want to know of anybody who [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► works in the building listen to the [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► podcast I feel like there has to be one [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► now like I numbers are big enough [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► there's gotta be one dude who works at [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► moved in the flag stop to listen to the [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► podcast if they're if they are listening [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► and stubbornly refusing to identify [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► themselves then they're doing they're [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► doing a disservice to everyone command [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► him as a break your silence reveal [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► yourself at [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► or conversely if you're in adelaide Tim [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► why not get a job with the black stump i [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► have some incredibly dire news Brady no [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► I got this article which says uber is [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► going to it's a little bit it's a little [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► bit ambiguously worded but allow stroke [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► encourage tipping of their drivers [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► through the app or with cash [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► it looks like with cash like with actual [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► to dirty cash that I never carry any way [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► yeah like given given to a driver [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► this is this is this is not this is not [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► a good development [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► this is not a good development it looks [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► like it's the result of some dumb [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► lawsuit in California about like [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► employee rights or whatever but like for [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► me it's like the end result result for [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► me like somehow this translates into [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► uber I don't even know if it's [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► everywhere if it's just in California [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► was just some places but like there may [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► be situations now where I have to worry [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► about like I'm gonna get into an uber [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► and the dude on the other end is going [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► to be expecting or waiting for a tip and [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► then we have this like mutual blackmail [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► for each other that if i don't get him [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► he's going to give me a bad star rating [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► I think this is a terrible development [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► for all of human civilization [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► i'm not i just don't feel like caving to [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► that just like he won't cave to the [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► instructions regarding towels clapping [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► I'm just gonna be like I just said I I [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► don't carry money on me I don't carry [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► money on me that's why i'm getting over [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► that is my gut feeling as well like that [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► this article has actually been on my [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► mind a surprising him house with someone [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► sent it to me like a week ago like it [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► keeps getting turned over and over in my [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► brain I have come to the same conclusion [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► as you that i'm just going to stonewall [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► this I'll just take that one star rating [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► from an uber driver who doesn't like it [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► but like I think i'm going to refuse to [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► tip Boober drivers just on principle [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► like this is not going to happen man [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► it's not even dishonest I that because I [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► think I'm just sort of thinking it [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► through my head and I think it might be [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► true that the last five countries i've [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► been to [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► I have not touched any currency of that [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► country [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► mm like I've not taken cash out I was in [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► Paris a few days ago and I didn't touch [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► any euros I don't think I got any money [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► out when I was in India who more or in [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► return I had some US dollars on me from [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► previous trips that i was able to use to [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► tip my guides and things but you just [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► don't I just don't bother getting money [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► anymore so far if I arrived in some [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► country and jump in and over from the [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► airport and go into town [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► I've got nothing to tip them with anyway [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► I was thinking the same thing and I was [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► running over some of my trips like I [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► recently went to the continent like I've [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► been out of the UK and I realized two [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► things one is that I haven't touched a [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► physical euro in I can't remember how [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► long like I haven't just gotten any out [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► and it is because like wow [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► RR futuristic cashless society has [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► gotten to the point where it's it's good [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► enough that I can just assume that i [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► will never have to touch physical [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► physical cash [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► the only time i will touch physical cash [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► going somewhere is going to the United [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► States because they're people will chase [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► you down the street if you don't give [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► them their blackmail tips and also [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► because of the legal things we mentioned [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► before that you do have to tip in [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► America for some reasons like you know [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► we don't have to go want to revisit that [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► whole thing again [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► yeah but like in America yes i will [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► intentionally try to carry cash but I [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► also realized a couple months ago in the [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► UK that partially because of actually [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► having apple pay on my watch like I use [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► Apple pay for just about every single [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► store that I go to now and I've actually [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► changed some of my routines to avoid [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► stores that don't accept contactless [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► payments like no contactless payment I [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► don't even want to have to touch your [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► little buttons on the pin pad when i'm [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► buying something forget it like I'm [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► gonna I'm gonna walk to the store next [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► door to not have to not have to handle [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► even just the card transaction but so [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► anyway I realize like I use cash so [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► infrequently that I ended up buying one [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► of these little micro wallets that is [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► only big enough to hold a couple of my [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► credit cards and these a couple little [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► key cards that i use for entry into [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► my office and nothing else there's an [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► even space in it like I couldn't I [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► couldn't have small denominations of [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► cash if I even wanted to and I got this [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► a few months ago thinking like oh maybe [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► I'm going to regret this and the answer [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► is nope I've never regretted it since [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► like I put in 150 pound note in my [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► wallet for emergencies and that 50 pound [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► note has remained there forever unbroken [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► I've never had to use it i know i'm mr. [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► old-fashioned but I have to say the [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► contactless payment has really won me [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► over [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► it's the basket yeah i really like it so [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► you know I'm on board with you i think [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► it's a real shame if / are going to [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► pressure tipping I imagine maybe it's [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► going to be introduced into the app [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► which will take away one of the things i [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► like about you but I know lift does have [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► tipping it's just a mess look I don't [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► care if I have to tip I just don't want [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► to have the interaction put in the [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► bloody app and I'll do it [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► just put it in the app shut up i'm with [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► you most of the way here is and again [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► like to clarify for people we are again [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► is not an issue about being cheap it's [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► just an issue about having to think [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► about it like the mental burden of this [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► that's a little bit of an interaction [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► but even I i originally thought like oh [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► in the app will be better and it is [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► better but i've been using I don't know [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► if you've used any of these but these [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► these are services now that like they [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► can go to restaurants for you and pick [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► up food so there's there's a whole bunch [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► of companies that do this now in the UK [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► is like deliver and quick up and there's [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► like a ton of these this is one of these [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► businesses that it seems like it's [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► exploded all of a sudden and he's like [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► guys on bikes riding all over the city [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► picking up stuff from restaurants and [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► stores and delivering it to your right [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► and so every i found when he's like this [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► is the craziest thing ever like I'm [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► sitting at home and I want a burger and [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► I can't make a burger by compressive [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► buttons on my phone and like a man will [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► bring a burger to me from the other side [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► of the city this is fantastic so I love [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► these things but they do have tipping in [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► the app and it still has that same kind [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► of little bit of annoying frustration [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► and I think that this is perhaps like [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► almost the minimum amount of interaction [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► i could possibly have with the human [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► where they still seem to require a tip [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► because like so here's what happens from [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► my perspective I press some buttons [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► on my phone twenty minutes later a man [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► knocks on the door and very often [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► without saying a single word just hands [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► me a bag of my food and walks away right [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► and then the app pops up a little [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► feedback button and it says please rate [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► this person 125 stars and how much of a [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► tip do you want to give them and it [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► annoys me every time because it feels [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► like out what how is this how is this [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► even possible to be a tipping [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► interaction like what is what is the [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► range of outcomes that can be here like [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► as far as I'm concerned there should be [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► just one button which is like did the [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► person get the order correct yes or no [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► like that that seems like it should be [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► the only feedback here how how amazing [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► could this experience possibly be that I [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► would feel like yes I want to give the [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► person as as the app gives me the option [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► to and other like a hundred pounds worth [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► of tip like when is this ever going to [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► happen what the person possibly have [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► done i don't i don't understand and i [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► find it frustrating [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► well you don't you know you don't like [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► talking to paper so I don't you sound a [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► bit like you want your cake and eat it [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► too I mean but that'sthat's break this [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► down I mean what did they get there [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► quickly did they were they clean did [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► with it was the thing handed to a nice [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► clean fresh looking bag with a little [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► edge screwed up and had on the back of a [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► motorbike [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► I mean I guess there are scales of how [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► well they could have done that as [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► someone who has ordered probably a [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► hundred burgers now for his i am going [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► to tell you that the range of delivery [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► like the difference in experience is [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► functionally 0like from my perspective [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► it is exactly the same every time I i [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► mean i don't mind tipping people who [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► deliver things to me because I just keep [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► a big pot of money in the house lot of [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► coins and I just every time that the [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► door rings with the delivery I just [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► grabbed you know a couple of pound coins [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► and again the thing that I don't like is [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► the thinking about it every single time [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► if we were going to put in the app or if [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► any of these delivery services have [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► tipping in the app I just wish they [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► would let me just set a default amount [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► let me just pick two pounds or three [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► pounds or whatever and just do that [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► every time and never ask me again it's [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► just I don't want to ever have to think [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► about this but really I would prefer [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► that they pay their employees enough [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► like do I hope people don't like depend [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► on the tips that's what I don't want [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► yeah if i did it in the app I wouldn't [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► mind because I don't do the star rating [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► on over until the next day or next time [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► i turn my phone on so i wouldn't mind [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► when i did that pressing or 12 or three [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► dollar button that wouldn't bother me if [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► that's how it's gonna work but just [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► don't make it something that I have to [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► think about on the drive and how this is [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► gonna go with the driver [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► I don't want to be thinking about that i [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► love you know sometimes I have great [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► conversations with my uber driver had an [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► uber driver yesterday and we talked [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► about cricket and Formula One always [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► London and we had a great conversation [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► sometimes I don't talk to my uber driver [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► one word and I just jump out when i get [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► to the end I say thank you you know but [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► I jump out but I don't want to be [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► spending that drive thinking about or [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► what money of I got what hand should i [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► be holding in how am I gonna hand it to [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► I just want to be thinking about that i [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► really like that about over that you [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► know it's just what I wanted to be and [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► it'd be a real shame if that that [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► tipping thing creeps in but i don't mind [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► giving an extra dollar or two on top you [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► know just factored into that sort of [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► Nova costs in my head that's fine but [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► just let me do it in my app in my own [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► time you know when i'm sitting down [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► after I've done my work and I checked my [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► messages and Michael I've got to get my [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► uber driver is five stars and oh yeah he [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► was nice that guy i'll also check into [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► bucks right that's okay I'll do with [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► that but don't but don't don't put it in [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► their faces [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► I completely agree should be low stress [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► environment obviously most of the time I [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► don't prefer human interaction if I can [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► possibly avoid it i will pay extra to [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► not have human interaction if I possibly [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► can but I do find with ubers that [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► because I have an idea of how long is [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► this interaction going to be theirs [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► constraints around this environment that [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► sometimes I've his kids sound bad but [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► like i practice being social with the [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► uber drivers it's like let's have a [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► casual conversation with a stranger like [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► let's see how this goes [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► and I also know that it's a great time [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► to practice because this person is in a [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► sense being paid to be a meaningful to [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► me so it can't go terribly wrong and if [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► I know like okay well this can only last [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► ten possible minutes sometimes i will [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► like intentionally talk with the uber [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► driver [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► offers to just like this is how to talk [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► to strangers but don't worry it won't [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► last too long and it can't go terribly [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► wrong either so its practice [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► socialization that's another benefit of [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► over maybe you should be keeping I i [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► spent some time with a friend of mine [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► the other day who is a real expert in [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► the area of driverless cars [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► oh yes yeah he is and does a lot of work [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► in the UK to do with the traffic flow in [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► the phasing in of driverless cars anyway [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► we were talking about it quite a lot so [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► I did say to him what are they going to [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► be cold when they're out there and I [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► mean he didn't know obviously and I said [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► what do you call them in your in your [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► discussions you know you talk about them [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► every day you must have a name for them [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► has a question how do you do it how do [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► you differentiate them and he said they [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► do often call them driverless cars but [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► more often i will call them autonomous [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► vehicles and therefore they more often [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► called the Navy's so when they're [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► talking amongst themselves they usually [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► will call them a phase and I think [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► that's a pretty cool name because you [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► know SUV is a is a pretty cool term that [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► most people seem comfortable with an RV [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► and maybe av's is is not bad name for [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► them so I just lightly I throw that out [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► there for you i know you I know you [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► still like autos but maybe we're gonna [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► end up calling them a vase that this is [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► this is why you're so good just like you [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► think of these interesting questions and [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► like it seems obvious in retrospect the [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► lake yet someone working on this stuff [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► they must in their lingo have a way to [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► shorten the phrase driverless cars like [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► that that phrase is just crazy long for [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► a thing that you're going to say 200 [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► times a day [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► yeah and normally I don't like the the [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► breaking things down to a series of [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► letters but I think you're right like AV [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► if it fits in a pre-existing framework [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► yeah of SUV and RV yeah it does have the [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► problem of you know audio-visual of [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► course an Davey is a very much a big [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► term of its own but what I think [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► ya like like a lot of like a lot of [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► businesses will have like a navy [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► department or I you know or an AV room [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► which is the audiovisual room and so it [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► is it is a thing but well you can you're [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► probably demonstrating by not being [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► familiar with the term yourself that I [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► also think it's separate enough from the [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► automotive industry [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► sorry that I think it could exist on his [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► own I think Ivy is a strong candidate I [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► actually think it's a better candidate [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► than autos myself but anyway just was [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► putting in the mix for you [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► oh yeah don't like I'm always having fun [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► futilely pushing autos uphill there [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► right like I know I I have fun with that [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► my my genuine prediction is is still [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► what I said you know when the video [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► first came out that we're just going to [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► call them cars that this that this is [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► the same kind of of transition like [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► smartphone that I feel like we're pretty [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► much on the other side of the smartphone [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► transition where it's just back to [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► people calling them phones [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► yeah that there's no real need to have [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► this distinction anymore between [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► smartphones and phones because you can [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► just assume that everybody's phone is [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► smart and I think that the the cars are [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► going to go through that exact same [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► thing we're going to have a little bit [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► of a phase where they're called [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► autonomous or whatever and then it's [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► gonna just going to slide right back and [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► back to cars and it's like when when [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► where cars not self-driving like people [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► won't even remember how long do you [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► think that phase will be that that that [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► time we will need it even need a [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► differentiator like how long is the [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► period in debate when human-driven cars [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► and navies are sharing the road [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► I mean I know you were getting a few [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► autonomous vehicles already but that [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► they're still very novel how long do you [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► think that the time will be that we're [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► sharing in a mainstream driving is [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► shared between human driven cars and [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► autonomous vehicles is it going to be [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► like two years is going to be 30 years [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► like you know what would you mention [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► this kind of thing is very hard to say [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► but say you know way closer to two years [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► than 30 years [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► yeah I know it's not quite the same the [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► analogy that i'm going to make here but [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► I think it's a good frame of reference [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► which is which is again going back to [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► smartphones I think smartphones took [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► over so fast because they had such [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► incredible economic utility for people [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► and you know you give you like rewind [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► back to 2005 lots of people didn't feel [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► like they needed a smartphone and I [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► talked to I talked to just about [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► everybody about autonomous cars like I [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► think it's a really interesting topic [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► and i'm also always really interested to [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► see how people [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► react to the topic like what you know [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► what do they think about this I can and [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► how do they react to the very idea and [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► like okay so i've had this theory which [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► i think is kind of born out by some of [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► the very early autonomous car stuff [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► where I think most people will approach [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► autonomous cars is like oh this is maybe [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► it's like not something I need or maybe [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► it's not something that's realistic or [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► maybe it's not something that's possible [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► and then as soon as someone is able to [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► like sit in an autonomous car even a [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► limited autonomous car it becomes two [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► things straight away boring it becomes [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► very boring like visit this is a report [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► from almost everybody who's done any [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► kind of riding an autonomous cars they [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► remarked on how immediately you get used [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► to it and it just seems totally normal [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► and then the second thing which i think [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► is a very human factor is people then [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► immediately start focusing on all of the [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► limitations i was like five minutes ago [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► you were doubtful about this thing and [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► now you're wondering well why can't just [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► drive anywhere ever want to go I want [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► more practice like now I want this to do [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► so much more [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► I think that's the transition that [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► happens in people's mind from like [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► doubtful too boring to why can't do [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► absolutely everything I really think [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► there's going to be just like a [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► tremendous pole and even if they're not [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► workable under all scenarios i think the [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► transition will actually be quite quick [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► and especially when you combine this [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► with a few other ideas that again like [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► the autonomous car thing really breaks [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► down by age with people that I find [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► super interesting of like the older [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► person is there always framing it in the [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► idea of like oh I don't want to buy an [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► autonomous car like that tends to be the [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► feeling of it like I like driving i know [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► i don't want to buy an autonomous car [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► but then the younger the person is the [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► the thought tends to flip much more of [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► this idea like renting an autonomous car [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► right being able to have access to an [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► autonomous car and having it show up to [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► them whenever whenever they need it so I [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► also think that kind of thing will make [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► a transition much much faster than we [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► might expect because on unlike I [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► phones or android phones where you have [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► to manufacture one for every single [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► person on the face of the earth to [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► personally owned the manufacturing [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► capabilities for cars is obviously much [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► lower and much slower than it is for [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► smartphones but i think the difference [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► is a company like uber for example can [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► service a lot of people with a smaller [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► number of autonomous cars so I i expect [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► once once these things are really on the [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► road that it's going to be a relatively [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► fast transition period you know and [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► it'll it'll be limited entirely by [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► manufacturing capability that it'll just [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► be a huge economic demand and and just [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► it's just a question of like how fast [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► can people get them on the roads [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► I think that's what it's going to be [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► another thing my friend told me I've not [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► actually saying this year I've just [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► while you were talking I was just [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► looking for a picture or video of it and [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► I haven't been able to find one but [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► apparently is happening and I I thought [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► even you would find a quite charming [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► they're trying a few autonomous small [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► autonomous cars or pods in a few places [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► around the UK and I think it might be a [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► city called milton keynes where that [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► there's no yelling at the moment and [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► what's happening at the moment he was [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► telling me because he wasn't sore and [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► found that very amusing was these things [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► obviously the moment going incredibly [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► slowly and then having to explain to [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► people what they are and how it's [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► working at the moment is there is [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► literally someone who walks in front of [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► it and tells people this is an [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► autonomous car you know get out the way [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► and things like that and he was saying [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► it's like when they when cars with this [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► come around people would walk in front [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► of them.more with the top with a light [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► and things like that be careful [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► horseless carriage is coming and [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► apparently it looks just like that it's [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► really really out fashion you've got [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► this super high-tech care with the human [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► walking in front of it clearing people [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► at the way so they don't all jump in [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► front of the pod [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► that's fantastic that's a that's [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► absolutely fantastic [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► I've not seen it yet so if anyone's got [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► a picture or video of that happening to [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► share it because i want to say I'm not [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► even going to milton keynes to see that [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► where's Milton Keynes I might make a [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► trip but it's not by it's not that new [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► in case of fire from you it's it's not [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► in London this I don't know if you get [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► their own up today's episode has been [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► brought to you by however and you know [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► that may [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► since it means our modeling amusing in [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► joke offer code but before we get to [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► that a reminder of what harbor is [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► basically harmless a ridiculously easy [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► and convenient way to register domain [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► names i use it [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► gray user and you probably should too [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► just some of the reasons to register [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► your demands with Harbor include the [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► fact you can go about your business [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► without all those annoying upsells [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► always trying to get you to pay for [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► something else when you're buying a [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► domain and things that should be [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► included [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► anyway like who is privacy are [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► automatically included there's no extra [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► press really fair dealing with however [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► however also has over 400 different [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► domain extensions so for example if you [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► don't fancy.com or maybe the doc [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► conversions taken or maybe it's not [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► appropriate [TS]

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00:51:31 ◼   ► better ones like for example dot science [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► or dot cricket or maybe dot beer you [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► could be bringing a new beer and need to [TS]

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00:51:42 ◼   ► like dot blue dot red and dark black [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► there are others but disappointingly dot [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► gray is not yet available [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► we're gonna have to wait for that 1i [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► think it'd be surprised how many people [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► have good use for a domain from time to [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► time it could be a business use or it [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► could be just for fun [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► maybe you're getting married and want to [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► create a website for your wedding [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► maybe you're an artist and just want a [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► nice way to show off your work there [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► were all sorts of great reasons to have [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► a domain and there are lots of reasons [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► you should choose however as you [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► register so won't go to Harvard dot-com [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► and see if your ideas available and if [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► it is you can snap it up with ten [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► percent of your first purchase to get [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► that discount you just need to use the [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► offer code cheer pressure on checkout so [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► that's hard com go about your business [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► and then use the offer code cheer [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► pressure here on my screen cheer [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► pressure that's all one word and that's [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► gonna perkasie in an uppercase P as it [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► was sent to me i don't know how [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► important that is but I just thought I'd [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► tell you overcame cheer pressure and our [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► thanks to hover for supporting hello [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► Internet gray want to talk about [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► football [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► this is soccer football but i'm just [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► gonna I'll try [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► say football because that's what it is [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► to me now no okay do you know what [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► happened in England this season [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► I mean I'm is this going to be another [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► conversation Brady where I need to humor [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► you for a while you can as I don't know [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► what happened i didn't know there's a [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► season I don't know anything about this [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► i feel like we can't do like we can't [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► both live in England and talk about [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► stuff happening in the world and not [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► talk about the most remarkable sporting [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► story that has happened in a very very [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► long time but it is always something [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► like what didn't dent your quick thing [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► wasn't your quick thing like a [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► remarkable story last time they saw you [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► know I know but I'm just going to say [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► one thing about the the upper echelon of [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► football soccer in the UK is this thing [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► called the Premier League or the program [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► and it's just incredibly huge industry [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► me even you must know its popular around [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► the world you go to Africa and [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► everyone's wearing you know manchester [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► united and arsenal shirt people like [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► their soccer I know that so much money [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► has poured into the top few clubs that [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► winning this thing actually winning the [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► league has become a real monopoly and [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► they're only sort of a few teams a [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► handful of teams that have a chance of [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► winning it [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► ok so let me just party there for a [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► second just to clarify something yeah [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► the way the team's work this is not like [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► the NFL in America we know is [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► unintentionally kind of social list [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► where there are you distributing the [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► money all of the day I'm trying to keep [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► the team's even now so this is much more [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► like like the National the National [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► Baseball League it is more like that but [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► it is more like major league baseball [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► ticket sales are funding the teams so [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► you can get a snowball effect go [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► I'm and it is 2 i'm in the NFL the [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► football in America has a draft so that [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► choosing the players is shared around [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► and weaker teams get preferential draft [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► picks so they can strengthen their team [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► and stronger teams get inferior draft [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► picks so they can't because good players [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► it's like settlers of catan it has an [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► inbuilt hobble the leader yakked right [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► and you're saying that that the soccer [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► games so could you not have that soccer [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► does not have that they're okay but they [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► tried they tried to introduce a few [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► things [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► to make things fair but it doesn't work [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► so the money is shared like that the [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► television money is shared among the [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► clubs but if your club is owned by a [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► russian billionaire who liked like [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► Chelsea then you have a lot more money [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► you can buy better players you can buy [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► the cream of the crop from all around [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► the world assemble this incredible squad [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► of players and pretty much guarantee [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► you're going to be near the top of the [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► league [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► luzhou so every year the same few teams [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► win the premier leg and the other teams [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► fight it out for the middle places and [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► the bottom places [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► ok the other thing that's worth noting [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► about the way soccer works that's [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► different from american sport is the [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► bottom in the case of the Premiership [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► the bottom three teams every season if [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► you finish in the bottom three you get [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► kicked out of the leg and you go down to [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► a lower leg some term got it [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► this is a city in England called Lester [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► and their their team's leicester city [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► and i'm quite familiar with Lester [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► because i used to live right near at up [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► into Leicester millions of times i used [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► to work there for the baby say they just [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► got up to the Premiership the top league [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► cup few seasons ago and actually last [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► year as the season was drawing to an end [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► they were in bottom place and they were [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► certain to be relegated down to the [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► lower league so their time with the big [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► boys was nearly over and that amazingly [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► they had a strong finish to the season [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► and they just stayed up miraculously [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► they got out of that bottom three and [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► then managed to stay in the Premiership [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► for another year [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► ok this season when the bookmakers were [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► doing the odds the odds of Leicester [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► City winning the premiership-winning at [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► all was literally five thousand to one [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► of you walk into a bookmaker and gave [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► them a pound you would get 5,000 pounds [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► if they won the league and and [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► bookmakers were happily taking the bets [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► who if anyone was stupid enough to do it [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► well what happened was listed city did [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► win the premiership this season [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► well in in one of the most remarkable [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► like just all here that is plotted along [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► and they kept winning and drawing and [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► having a good season and i will right [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► near the top and everyone was saying [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► I've done so well so no drop away but [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► they've done really well and they just [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► never dropped away and all the big teams [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► that always win everything [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► most of them just had sort of mediocre [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► seasons and it was just the stars align [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► and these underdogs with this really [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► cheap squad of players that costs a [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► fraction of what [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► all the other teams cost just kept [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► plugging away kept winning and they want [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► the whole league and that was the most [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► remarkable fairytale story and let [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► everyone in the country pretty much [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► started supporting them and getting [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► behind them but the thing that I found [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► quite interesting as well who was the [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► way that betting on football works now [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► has changed in recent years and i don't [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► know if you know about this but I've got [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► this cash out option so if you bet on [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► something and that thing but looks like [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► it's becoming increasingly likely [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► bookmakers give you this chance to cash [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► out you're better at like lower odds so [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► as lesson yeah [TS]