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H.I. #46: Superbowl of Flags

 

  Your mom by the way. Lovely lovely are you liked an ethically related or I thought of you today. [TS]

  Carla because I sat in on a on a strategy meeting about recruiting people to become teachers don't even ask me how I [TS]

  came to be in this meeting now the only thing I want to know is how on earth are you in this meeting. [TS]

  Why are you in a meeting like it's honestly too boring to even talk like after they were meeting with It was like a [TS]

  government department that is volved in recruiting tape has her name's employed like P.R. People to help with as well. [TS]

  Noble noble cause and they contacted Cimatron Professor Polycarp to sort of make with him and talk a bit about it [TS]

  and I happen to be there that day filming says Martin said would I mind sitting in on the may think so I think on the [TS]

  mating in you know put in my two cents worth because you know that's what I do right and it was interesting enough [TS]

  and you know it's not for me to share what we were doing in of in talking about a profit making [TS]

  but over time I just kept thinking what would I do if I said well my mice a G.P. [TS]

  Graces and telling them what you think about teaches it would've put a roof down on the meeting. [TS]

  Yeah I don't think I don't think that would have been that would have been good I wouldn't tell them what I say in a [TS]

  meeting like that you just keep your mouth shut if I wouldn't take you to a meeting that involved recruiting paper [TS]

  different teachers because you are like your teacher recruiting Kryptonite No [TS]

  but you see if I was in if I was in charge of the campaign to recruit more teachers because they used to have these [TS]

  posters up around London [TS]

  when I was becoming a teacher which would switch would show they took to tax one of them was a look at all the children [TS]

  the journal you will inspire tack and the other tack was just listing the starting salaries for teachers to was there. [TS]

  These where there are two approaches to try to get more people into teaching field [TS]

  but I feel like no you're coming you're going at this all wrong that the poster should just say become a teacher [TS]

  and then below it it should say two hundred. [TS]

  Days off a year [TS]

  or whatever the actual number is there just like a caliber big calendar of the year with all the holidays marked in [TS]

  that bright red as perp can see it now. [TS]

  That's that would be the best teacher recruiting poster there could be we must in another part cast talk about teacher [TS]

  recruiting because I actually tell them what my idea was and it was a bit at a left field and it wasn't that [TS]

  but it wasn't far from that and they kind of art and I it was really interesting [TS]

  and they looked a bit that is an interesting idea. [TS]

  What is your idea I want to know we do this now let's we've got so much to get to a great let's do another time [TS]

  or you can use the people like that. [TS]

  Yeah I just did OK all right because now because now that they guaranteed to listen to annex episode so they can hear. [TS]

  Brady's idea about recruiting pages OK I guess if you want to build up your idea that is the most amazing idea [TS]

  and that will soon be adopted by the U.K. [TS]

  For recruiting teachers you go ahead and build that right up next episode people at a thing it was that amazing [TS]

  and Bay I can guarantee it won't be adopted. [TS]

  Let's actually do this podcast does it feel different Brady now that I am finally back in London I think you are grumpy [TS]

  when I was in the London me being so far away from you as a filter for no not really because I've been you know trying [TS]

  to get you to come up here to to Bristol to come and see the Banksy thing [TS]

  and I can't do it so you may as well be in America. [TS]

  Oh Frank we don't even don't even don't even start with this huge always do this you pretend like I'm not interested in [TS]

  doing as I actually am you just make me mad Brady that's that's all you did yeah. [TS]

  Listen to that little giggle that you get so much enjoyment out of riled like riling me up with the things it does it [TS]

  makes me happy I just love I just love staring up an emotion chip you can really do you really do. [TS]

  You've actually been quite radio saw the last week oh sorry so I doesn't feel that different that you're back in the [TS]

  car because now that you're in a similar to. [TS]

  I'm zine I thought there was a chance I might hear from you but I think I was hearing more from you [TS]

  when you're in America this past week I have just been slowly trying to convince myself to get back into a regular [TS]

  working schedule after a long running in this is a good one to do that [TS]

  but here we are at this time due to time to get back for real. [TS]

  Well you know what to do crack at the getting things down to seven nice mug of hot chocolate and get inspired. [TS]

  Yeah yeah that's allowed to maybe I'll read the book will Elin spire me how he finding them back in London What's [TS]

  what's what's going on what she reflections what you follow up talk to me you know it's just it's good to be back. [TS]

  It's always good to be back after a long trip [TS]

  and this summer was an unusually an unexpectedly long trip so I'm very happy you know almost always a first couple days [TS]

  I come back I have enjoyed the do the thing alike to do which is to take a walk along the South Bank in London [TS]

  and then that whenever I do that [TS]

  and then it really feels like Oh OK I'm really back now I'm really in the heart of the city is this a podcast [TS]

  or you rushing your dating profile I just like taking long walks by the river. [TS]

  Yeah I do I do like taking a long walk by the river you should come with me sometime rated a buy you flowers along the [TS]

  walk. [TS]

  Real ones so IMO Gees I don't know which do you like better [TS]

  and if you like the mode you one day let alone we could just walk alone like texting each other emerges as we look book [TS]

  along the river together yes we could that would be very romantic. [TS]

  Modern Romance So you've done you walk by the river before I could get here. [TS]

  Course there had to be more flights there are always more flights I had to pass through Dulles Airport one last time [TS]

  before I could come home and I realized on Twitter recently that many people listening to the podcast. Perhaps a you. [TS]

  Listener to the pod cast right now. [TS]

  Tim have been presuming that all this time I am incapable of pronouncing the word Dallas Taoist airport I am not going [TS]

  to the Dallas airport the Washington airport is actually called Dulles but. I have seen so many people on Twitter. [TS]

  Commenting about my inability to pronounce the name of a city in Texas it is not. [TS]

  Dallas it is Dulles that is the actual name of the airport. [TS]

  D'you double Las also Ronald Reagan Airport was Washington [TS]

  or like a couple there are there are several airports out of Washington I think Dallas is probably the biggest But as [TS]

  Reagan is another one of the airports I think there are three I don't know exactly [TS]

  but Dulles is the one that I always go to [TS]

  and someone sent me this thing which really made me laugh because there's one guy said I'm really confused about why [TS]

  Gray hates Dulles Airport so much because every time I go it's absolutely lovely [TS]

  and then he realized on his trip that he went to a different part of the airport and discovered of to overwrite [TS]

  and he sent me this picture showing the A.B. [TS]

  Terminals which are lovely and Modern a new which I don't think I have ever stepped in once. [TS]

  Right next to the horrible horrible CD terminals that I'm always walking through that just look absolutely miserable So [TS]

  apparently even the people who are confusing they think oh Dulles is very nice you have never been in the in the [TS]

  correct or really the wrong part of Dulles Airport. [TS]

  Why do you always end up there is some hub for you not to the something is that's exactly right it's a hub for United [TS]

  which is why I always end up going through it [TS]

  and United uses the CD terminals which were built in the one nine hundred fifty S. [TS]

  With the ATS what nice person up is you know it took like a poor [TS]

  and on oh I don't know if it's just the real estate that they've bought their the airport is busy building another set [TS]

  of terminals further away [TS]

  and the big train station between them so I don't know if they're going to be bothering ever revamping their old ones [TS]

  that are probably always going to pass through [TS]

  but it sounds like it could be hurting United you know it would make may not fly with them the way you talk about it [TS]

  you know what makes me wonder not fly United Brady the United Airlines safety video. [TS]

  Oh I know this because I do fly United a lot and I know it's OK that I think I saw this stupid video. [TS]

  Two dozen times this summer and every time it felt it felt like an eternity. [TS]

  Now do you want to describe it to the people or shall I put a link in the show notes of people can watch it [TS]

  and just sort of having a look at it now on mute to condoms remind myself [TS]

  and the thing the thing about it is in this kind of ever increasing spiral to make your airline safety video. [TS]

  Original [TS]

  and different to the others which is just getting out of control among airlines what they've done is decide to talk you [TS]

  through the safety of the plane but not use applying know for example that show you how to do up your sake bell [TS]

  and it's like a person in a taxicab doing the same and then there's another woman talking about the exits [TS]

  and things like that and she sort of is doing all regard me in some kind of Japanese dojo [TS]

  and then someone else is talking about sort of seating and baggage in that [TS]

  and she's on the back of an open top bus in Las Vegas. Yeah it's kind of its kind of some P.R. [TS]

  Persons of the said Hey man we're going to think outside the box [TS]

  and just take the airline safety experience outside of the plain man yes [TS]

  and it it doesn't work it's let's use every mode of transportation. [TS]

  Except the mode of transportation that you are on to explain the mode of transportation that you're on you're looking [TS]

  at people putting on the gas masks [TS]

  and they're sitting in like a lift up a ski slope like a like a cabin going at the ski slope [TS]

  and now someone's doing the safety like the last safety vests and they're in a park full of kangaroos. [TS]

  About how to handle a crash landing into water. Right it's yeah this video. [TS]

  Drove me crazy and it made me crazy or every single time every single time I watched it. [TS]

  OK look it's a it's a it's a safety video. It's supposed to convey information. [TS]

  To you about the plane now granted almost everybody who's flying on a plane with any kind of regularity already knows [TS]

  all of this stuff [TS]

  and so if I'm in charge of the airlines I would think OK we're legally required to tell some people this stuff what [TS]

  seems to me the obvious purpose of the safety video would be tell the things you are legally required to tell them [TS]

  and do it as quickly and as simply as you possibly can to get it out of the way [TS]

  but it seems like airlines decide to go with the opposite choice which is let's try to make it fun [TS]

  and engaging for everybody [TS]

  and I think this is just this is just the wrong wrong way to do it because Can anybody make a video that is fun to [TS]

  watch. Several dozen times in a row. [TS]

  Nobody right nobody can do that you just you strip all of the humor out of it if there is any joke in it at all. [TS]

  That works it just dies from repeated repeated beatings [TS]

  and the airline stuff is just not even it's just not even that funny [TS]

  but as United won just it absolutely It absolutely kills me. It's not funny. [TS]

  It explains it explains things I already know in a way that somehow manages to make them confusing because they're [TS]

  showing you all different stuff every time and the one the really gets me. Which for anybody who has a watch the video. [TS]

  Pay particular attention to this next time you see it because they want to show different people all over the world [TS]

  doing different things. [TS]

  Every little scene change requires a five second stablish ing shot him so there's a woman in Italy [TS]

  and they can just cut to the woman in Italy they have to show her walking down the street for a moment [TS]

  and someone on a scooter passes her [TS]

  and then she turns around the corner to then explain to you the thing is like no just cut to the. [TS]

  Person doing the thing do it all we know with C.G.I. [TS]

  or In a white room or with people just showing you stuff but [TS]

  when you have to have these establishing shots it just goes it feels like it goes on forever [TS]

  and looking at the time of this video it's four and a half minutes long four [TS]

  and a half minutes long to convey how much stuff here's how you buckle up. [TS]

  Oh by the way put the put the air masks on when they come down put your seat back up [TS]

  when we're taking off you know the end there's not that much to actually say but they take so long. [TS]

  Say it let me be devil's advocate for a moment. [TS]

  OK I want final thing to complain about but you go ahead you try to convince me otherwise. [TS]

  OK I'm going to try to convey well where I've seen a smash my head against a brick wall can change your mind for let me [TS]

  be devil's advocate Anyway first of all your bit of an edge case and how often you fly [TS]

  and this particular how often you've recently Florida so you were over exposed to this video so we have to take that [TS]

  into account. [TS]

  Level let's put that to the side for a moment say the airlines have access to [TS]

  and I probably do bye the stage because airline safety videos have been around for a long time they have access to [TS]

  research and information and market research which shows that airline safety video is a so sign me [TS]

  and is so ignored by people that they are not effective anymore [TS]

  and then say some accident happens where several people get injured in an accident [TS]

  and they file a lawsuit which says well wait we didn't do what was in the video because we didn't pay attention to the [TS]

  video and you know if we don't pay attention to the videos because you've been researching it for years [TS]

  and you know we don't pay attention is it possible the airlines have had it brought to their attention by a lawyer. [TS]

  Is that they have to do new things to make this safety videos engaging [TS]

  and make people look at them because they're being ignored too often and whether doing it well [TS]

  or not that's another argument and whether this is tasteful a stupid owed after a well executed is another to bite [TS]

  but are they doing these outside the box things not because they're trying to be wacky with I've been conned by some [TS]

  pay up April but because I've been legally advised to make these videos. [TS]

  Eyecatching [TS]

  and different so people start looking at them again I mean if you're starting from the A man generic presumption that [TS]

  they have research that shows people don't pay attention I mean I guess it's possible [TS]

  but you know what I have research that shows nobody pays attention to these videos anyway [TS]

  and it's called looking around on the airplane and everybody is ignoring the safety video even these new ones. [TS]

  You're just you're just confirming my point [TS]

  and I post so I don't think it's a stretch to imagine someone at some point has commission something into people's [TS]

  attention to safety video as it sounds like the sort of thing that would definitely be researched [TS]

  but even if it hasn't been researched if someone could make the case that these things are being ignored than that then [TS]

  they are worthless. Of not I think what I said seems quite plausible. [TS]

  There's only one part of the safety video that is different every time [TS]

  and it is the most important part which is where are the exits on this particular plane [TS]

  and if you watch any of these videos you see almost all of them do some kind of cut away so they can drop in a separate [TS]

  segment about where the exits on the plane and this is what drives me crazy about. [TS]

  This United video in particular [TS]

  and was accurate I was going to call up as OK here's the one thing that's different that you need to pay attention to [TS]

  and as the moment that this woman walks into a dojo in Japan and she says oh I'm going to tell you about the exits [TS]

  and then she just holds up on camera piece of paper and she starts to fold it [TS]

  and then they do a little joke where she drops the the paper off camera for a couple of seconds pretends like she keeps [TS]

  folding and then brings it back up [TS]

  and there's amazing origami plane that obviously nobody could do in that amount of time [TS]

  but it's the only part of the whole video where there's just like seconds of silence and nothing is happening [TS]

  and it is the biggest longest boring is run up to nothing is occurring before they then decide to have her segue into [TS]

  Let me tell you where this is the seats are on this airplane for us like it's just crazy making to me that the the [TS]

  worst slow is part of the video comes right before the part when you're most supposed to be paying attention. [TS]

  It's terrible it's absolutely terrible. [TS]

  I great to terrible video of I mean I probably going to different airlines Jake so I don't have the commitment to [TS]

  United because if you're stupid. [TS]

  Stand by my excellent standby for excellent well excellent [TS]

  when you're first class on the flight you want to go on not so good [TS]

  when you spent two weeks waiting for you were trying to talk me out of going. [TS]

  Stand by on the way over and I'm glad I didn't listen to you because I did get that first class upgrade [TS]

  and boy it was it's sweet. [TS]

  Yeah but you have leaps we first class grave with totally worth of standby wait without a doubt it. [TS]

  Vova would do again a plus plus. [TS]

  Firth clarity told her that if if if if line first class is worth two weeks of waiting then good on you you might have [TS]

  you might the Rocco [TS]

  when we talked last time I felt like you almost talk me out of it like oh maybe that may be pretty is right maybe I [TS]

  should rethink this whole standby thing [TS]

  and then as soon as I got in that seat at that nope not really thinking this is amazing. [TS]

  Alright at it but I'm happy for you [TS]

  but before we switch topics I cannot let what for me is the amazing cherry on top of this pile of poop that is the [TS]

  United safety video which is during the one scene [TS]

  when there's a family going up going up one of those little week where even call them there on the mountain. [TS]

  What would you call one of those things it's like a scale it doesn't yes lucky [TS]

  but it's like in a cabinet sizing closed gates not there's an enclosed ski lift that they're going up and it again. [TS]

  Stablish ing shot so you know where they are it takes several seconds there's this family is going up in a little ski [TS]

  lift and they look out the window [TS]

  and then going down on the opposite side there are two people that are having a fight on top of the ski lift that's [TS]

  going down which I presume is some kind of James Bond reference but I'm not one hundred percent sure [TS]

  but anyway it's a safety video there's a fight that's happening in the middle one guy gets knocked off the top of the [TS]

  ski lift and they put a Wilhelm scream for him. Volleying to his death. [TS]

  From from the top of this this lift too many cooks spoiling the broth of this video clearly has to the trying to cram [TS]

  so many ideas into they needed in that Wilhelm scream to me is just the the perfect cherry for this is my boy there is [TS]

  nothing that will take me out of a movie [TS]

  or anything more than a that stupid Wilhelm scream that is uses a sound effect in thousands [TS]

  and thousands of movies because audio engineers think it's funny [TS]

  and it's even here in this safety video that for me is just the end of that [TS]

  and luck cannot just give a pre warning here because I know everyone is now going to send us you cheap videos of every [TS]

  safety video there is because it's quite common for people to make safety videos that funny a spice to be funny [TS]

  and I've seen many of them and are saying like things on lot red and Facebook [TS]

  and Twitter where someone says oh yes this is the most hilarious safety video of a saint of watched many of them I [TS]

  can't think of ones that I actually thought was funny. Oh yeah I completely agree. [TS]

  Even ones that were like couldn't be more aimed at me like New Zealand has a whole bunch of Lord Of The Rings deems [TS]

  want themed ones at best it is why old Lee amusing once but that's it. [TS]

  If you have to watch it twice is the same agony you know no matter what it is I've never seen it done well [TS]

  and I was I was actually clicking around [TS]

  and trying to watch a few other airline safety videos to see what one of the comparisons [TS]

  and they're all just agony if you have to watch them again and again and again. [TS]

  Off which the British Airways animated one probably thirty times [TS]

  and obviously it's mind numbingly boring sustain a sign many times but I find that one. Acceptable. [TS]

  A giant I don't get angry at that one kind of I think I think I made a good choice [TS]

  but is it just a standard one with a janitor you this NG very Stannis animated so the people don't look real so they [TS]

  like cartoonish at but they're on a plane and it's not an eye of Siena so many times I feel like I know the paypal [TS]

  and it's inoffensive it looks sort of molten [TS]

  and now so it doesn't look kind of studied in nineteen seventy cyclist safety video scandal I think I've done quite [TS]

  well it's not it's not funny. [TS]

  It just conveys information it's quite clean I think I think they've done [TS]

  or are there I'm just clicking around through it on You Tube right now [TS]

  and this to me looks like exactly what I expect from a safety video. [TS]

  It's showing you the actual things you'll be using not a taxi. [TS]

  Not a bus in Las Vegas and it looks boring [TS]

  and that is going to tell you what the things are I would take that any day over a video that's trying to be clever [TS]

  and funny and it has establishing shots. [TS]

  Yeah talk to me of that dead jacks you brought this up on the last book I asked this is just an offhanded remark in a [TS]

  less pod cast I wondered what causes men to lose their brains when they have children [TS]

  and fall down into the world of pun humor like what it what is the cause of this is it genetic. [TS]

  One of the better comments that someone left on Reddit summed it up this way saying that once you have kids all of your [TS]

  previous funny material pop culture references in UN dope profanity doesn't work on young children. What does work. [TS]

  Are puns and corny stuff. [TS]

  Yeah that this is what you're left with and slapstick but you haven't got the energy for slapstick [TS]

  when your dad presumably [TS]

  or you haven't got the gym with a remark about the energy there was also this comment that I quite enjoyed where the [TS]

  person says. [TS]

  Speaking as a dad of three I can also say that it Dad humor arises out of the insanity in desperation you feel after [TS]

  slugging the. [TS]

  Way for endless sleepless nights changing poopy diapers then having to endure years of quote conversations with over [TS]

  talkative two to four year olds you can actually forget what it's like to have a normal conversation with adults [TS]

  and what the conventions of normal humor are so I like I like these two comments because to me they fit together very [TS]

  well of OK I can understand that for some people their normal humor tools have been deprived from them so they're [TS]

  resorting to puns to try to make their little kids laugh [TS]

  and then this comment I think is the flip side of that which is they just forget [TS]

  and they're too exhausted to realize you're talking to a grown up now. [TS]

  Like please don't make puns at me like I find that offensive. [TS]

  I'm feeling a bit self-conscious at the moment right because it's becoming bit of a recurring theme in in these [TS]

  objectivity as I'm doing for us to make puns in each video. [TS]

  Oh very favorite corny and like been to like a lingering look at the camera as you make it so [TS]

  but I think I like to think revving at the ironic [TS]

  but you've got the right now that sounds like the kind of thing that I will let pass because the joke it's like it's a [TS]

  method joke right you're looking about the joke it's not the actual joke itself does this sound like a reasonable [TS]

  explanation to you. [TS]

  Yeah yeah I think it's true to you has you have less weapons in your arsenal [TS]

  when dealing with young children I made up my go to with little kids is always to make jokes about poker and way [TS]

  and that's that and set of pants off on with little kids and I need to make them laugh. [TS]

  Stories from the decisive thing like a you can ate some poker and I'll just laugh until I cry. [TS]

  IOW as I go with I go for toilet humor. [TS]

  Much to my sisters to suggest what I took a risk because Ivan walk away is cool uncle Brady [TS]

  and she has to do with projects for the next three months. [TS]

  You've just created enormous amount of parenting collateral damage the do you think that I think to deal with to make [TS]

  the Pooh jokes even more exciting to go Who are them could Brady exactly but yes I read this [TS]

  and I thought I thought at first that this seemed quite reasonable [TS]

  but the more I thought about it the less I was convinced about lacking humorous tools simply because I remembered way I [TS]

  used to work around kids and I would never make pun jokes but I could still get kids to laugh [TS]

  and I taught even sometimes a toddler little little if kids like I would teach kids who were maybe years old [TS]

  and you like you don't have to use puns to get little. [TS]

  It is to laugh and even now as an adult like when when my friends [TS]

  and I got around to like appere it's Who are you know in the sixty's or something [TS]

  but we're like now like you know thirty's that parents to make Corney Punj Oaks to us [TS]

  and that they could be rude to us. [TS]

  Right you know because we're thrilled I thirty flight you could you could make you know what sorts of jokes [TS]

  but I don't I still go to the puns. [TS]

  Yeah you're right maybe there is something else going on maybe just an age thing maybe when you're of a certain age [TS]

  but you know how if you see someone who's really old wearing like jeans [TS]

  or something living in sometimes look a bit weird or if they're you know there are certain clothes [TS]

  or certain hairstyles if our people have rightly or wrongly it just doesn't seem quite right [TS]

  and maybe will be the same as well of someone in this sort of you know I seventy's were making sort of crass jokes [TS]

  or they are making really like hip pop culture references from the last month [TS]

  or to maybe it would just look so unconventional that they don't do it so that so they can conform to expectations. [TS]

  Yeah I remember when I was a kid and annoyed by puns I used to wonder. [TS]

  What the hell is wrong with men in their forty's that they all make pun jokes like I used to think that it was age [TS]

  based [TS]

  but as I have gotten older I have a heaven how realize no it is the men who have children based that I can see men who [TS]

  have children suddenly reach for puns much more than similarly aged men who don't so I don't think it breaks down just [TS]

  along a drummers but on the graph you must have a theory. Place. [TS]

  I mean I just I guess my theory is that babies break men's brains in some in some way to just make them less funny. [TS]

  Maybe it's maybe it's evolutionary Graham maybe maybe we have this inbuilt edginess to us like this. [TS]

  Edginess disaggregation this sort of this this cutting him a that's part of a high and for evolutionary reasons [TS]

  when US suddenly given the responsibility of looking after children [TS]

  and bringing them up there's some evolutionary reason that that kind of edginess [TS]

  and that Captain that aggression to to Oh parts of us including a human needs to be dulled and and it's dull forever [TS]

  and I think that genuinely sounds plausible to me that's why I think there's something about the parenting that changes [TS]

  people people are very very different human beings before and after they have children. [TS]

  Has I'm still I'm still going to put the call out there I want someone to do their Ph D. [TS]

  Thesis on Dad humor and I want to see. [TS]

  Hormone measurements I want to see genetic analysis I want this I want this to go deep that's that's what I wanted [TS]

  and it's one of those things where with I like show them pictures of a lot of violent acts [TS]

  and say have I respond to them and stuff. Let's get on us through on the people here. [TS]

  Well with delegating where delegates as yeah I don't mean we're going to get on this I mean someone listening I'm [TS]

  handing you a Ph D. Thesis it will be amazing. Well speaking of kind of aggression and and. [TS]

  Kind of stuff [TS]

  and also I did very briefly mention these objectivity videos I'm just like to say there was a recent the most recent [TS]

  video in the series involved me trying to undo a lock [TS]

  and I couldn't do it in my defense the reason I was an underlying it was because it was a very ancient treasure chest I [TS]

  was trying to block and I didn't want to break it. [TS]

  Where were you trying to trying to trying to crack the locker you were just simply trying to open the lie had the case [TS]

  it was just a very speak a it was a big stiff outlook and I was and you had to turn it over why [TS]

  and I couldn't quite tender and I could have potable harder but I was wired maybe I was doing something wrong [TS]

  and I didn't want to break it with for example if I gave you the key to my house and you couldn't unlock [TS]

  or you wouldn't like to turn harder [TS]

  and harder because you'd be scared of breaking the case wouldn't you think maybe I'm using the cane correctly so let me [TS]

  just stop for a second and reassess. Pens sense of the details there are anyway. [TS]

  Anyway it was a it's this precious our one hundred zero treasure chest and I was trying to turn this big A [TS]

  and I couldn't I couldn't get it open I didn't want to turn any harder so I turned to cater you've met [TS]

  and whose least somewhat out of that main is quite a slight man and I said to him. [TS]

  Case in a case that your meter and I said yeah you go ahead. [TS]

  Because Keith works at the Royal Society [TS]

  and he's in charge of the library so if they break the lock you know that's OK right. It wasn't me that break. [TS]

  Say case and took the Cape gave it a turn [TS]

  and bang it opened right as a result I'm getting all these comments under the video from people saying well I guess [TS]

  Brady's not hard as nails after oh hard as nails and it's always hard as nails. [TS]

  Comments under the video and the thing I want to say I don't want to dwell on my excuse for not doing it. [TS]

  That's led by the by this being hard as nails. [TS]

  Doesn't is nothing about strength I think it's more a kind of a tolerance to pain [TS]

  and an ability to put up with things you can't be weak I'm not saying I am wake of that probably am [TS]

  but you can be weak and still be hard as nails the fact the fact if I wasn't able to open the lock. [TS]

  Maybe I wasn't able to open up if I was not I would open that luck that does not mean I'm not hard as nails it just [TS]

  means I'm a bit weak I completely agree that's how it originally came up it was you were talking about the Grand Canyon [TS]

  going down the Grand Canyon without any water. [TS]

  It's tolerance it's not it's not physical strength I can pick up about her but I won't cry if you punch me in the face. [TS]

  Rights right now. [TS]

  Don't try that out Internet yeah I just want to be clear on that I don't think I've lost my heart is now status because [TS]

  I didn't unlock that chest now I could have I'm not that yes by the way I just want to break it because I'm pretty [TS]

  strong as well. [TS]

  Whatever you gotta do to feel better body guard every Gotta Do you think the lady doth protest too much like you told [TS]

  me a really long story about how your wife open the pickle jar you know we're like oh but it was a row [TS]

  and go you know but I could strike could starve myself to death longer than she could [TS]

  and very heart of the elder is like OK man you know you didn't mean to draw all this attention do it. [TS]

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  and thanks to all the bull for supporting the show I had a Scott conversation this weight [TS]

  or the weight discard with hello internet listener named Max and Max is eleven years out which. [TS]

  Never occurred to me that we had listeners that young eleven agent tell you why space a smile on the ball that is the [TS]

  only problem I have with Max I must say is he's definitely more tame gray than team Brady [TS]

  and that's fair enough you know I know a lot of people are people you know making was one of us more than the other he [TS]

  definitely falls into your camp. [TS]

  I'm entirely comfortable with that what I was less sure about when I Skype code him [TS]

  and it comes up on the video screen he was wearing a seat G.P. Great teacher black hat was that first so in my words. [TS]

  He wasn't where he was a wearing a helmet Internet take show he was wearing a C.T. [TS]

  P great leisure and he's talking to Brady [TS]

  and he's talking to break so in a way you know what Brady That's exactly the kind of thing that I imagine little Brady [TS]

  would do you would do that exact same thing because you just love pressing people's buttons so I think you got a little [TS]

  taste of exactly what kid you would do in that precise situation I was slightly put catered by the fact his brother [TS]

  he's he's Ben who was also on the CO [TS]

  and also listens to the podcast was more team Brady is a he was thinking was trying to like make me feel better it's [TS]

  that are like you better Brady Center we didn't get a nice conversation we chatted about all sorts of stuff one of my [TS]

  favorites was a star I said I said are high. [TS]

  Haggis I'm BRADY You know you might not know who I am and they said yes we DO YOU LOVE plane crashes. [TS]

  This is your defining characteristic. [TS]

  Her but we took so we talk plane crashes but we took we talked about shredders I showed them a very exciting. [TS]

  You would have liked we talked about Audrey [TS]

  and we put orgy on the co they asked to see the baseball bat that I use to tap [TS]

  or tree with so I think I didn't believe it existed I showed them I showed them the super buttons I was basically a big [TS]

  show and tell I think I think they wanted to go but I just want to keep shag [TS]

  and kept showing them everything in your office which is quite a lot of things are we must have pain we must have been [TS]

  going for half an hour has arms pulling stuff out like a like a magician and they're looking at their watches. [TS]

  Yeah you know how much longer so anyway we had a we had a great chat [TS]

  and I did I made an agreement with Max I said because he's a good fare I said to him we will agree to talk about the [TS]

  topic of Max's choice on the next part cast lucky for years and lucky for me. [TS]

  Max loves Vexillology and I just occurs to me the sentence Max loves Vexillology would be really useful in Scrabble [TS]

  but he loves it and so he just said. Top flags. [TS]

  So I said I reckon we can probably a cover that you on that one we could probably talks of legs [TS]

  and say we're going to talk about flex it's interesting they he lives in Illinois so [TS]

  and Chicago has a popular flag as you know he has after the flag video. [TS]

  Well I still haven't watched the flag a video [TS]

  but there are also the Chicago one is the is the three stars earth now with four stars force where the stars of the [TS]

  white background. [TS]

  It's sort of a central plank in that flag a video of your view might say yeah I know it's a scarf like I think it's [TS]

  it's a it's a solid standard flag I'm not sure I would hold up as an amazing flag [TS]

  but I feel like it's like it's a solid middle of the pack you can't make fun of it people can identify with it does its [TS]

  job. [TS]

  Flag You sound more and more light room [TS]

  and mass every day Max what his favorite flag was in Haiti he actually said the U.K. [TS]

  Flag I do like that I do like the Union Jack you know I had a whole plan to save it in case the Union broke up. [TS]

  Yeah entry Brady style I was able to pull out a an antique Union Jack flag that I had in my office which which I quit I [TS]

  quite enjoyed. [TS]

  I'm looking at right now and you would be in practice he said he likes it because it combines three flags [TS]

  and yet it follows the rules of flag design then what have you done we've created eleven year olds who are really [TS]

  interested in the rules of flag design it's going to be really interested in the rules of flag design until [TS]

  and to look at good flags I asked him what he thought of the U.S. Flag and he said Too Many Stars. Yeah so S. Thoughts. [TS]

  I've said before the U.S. [TS]

  Flag it's a little busy you know it was the little much that but it is US flag that like at twelve [TS]

  and we need to dial it back to a seven. That's that's a bit the way the U.S. [TS]

  Line I much prefer the Betsy Ross version of the US flag the one that helped at at the very least dial the back to have [TS]

  the ring of stars in the blue patch on top I said to the guys maybe I should put three styles Ana one representing H. [TS]

  Time zone. [TS]

  When I'm thinking about is four time zones [TS]

  and I was a guy shot so I know what's what other no wait a second is no wait there's five times on well I guess it is [TS]

  also is a question of do you want to count American Samoa and all the craziness [TS]

  but now you have East Coast time zone you have the Central Time Zone. [TS]

  Central is where Justin lives you have Mountain Time Zone I forgot mountain which has Missoula which is the heart of [TS]

  the You Tube educational world you have the West Coast Time Zone and then you have the why Alaska times an hour [TS]

  when I walk out now and that I wouldn't you count that one if you're going to make a flag this based around time zones. [TS]

  Thirty started with three you're down by at least two I was this is just one of a stuff H. [TS]

  Like Major League Baseball today. [TS]

  Will a staple Ottley left my dad jokes you're just signing them is that a dad joke is just a terrible idea of the joke [TS]

  it was it was it was a joke was corny is that was morning morning is Mark what the humor is you know it's just a [TS]

  terrible terrible idea. [TS]

  OK if we're looking at American Samoa there's also Samoa Standard Times that six times owns I've opened a can of worms [TS]

  when I brought up times are U.T.C. Minus eleven. Yes I do like time zones as well quite interesting. [TS]

  NASA runs on Greenwich Time NASA does run on kind of time I do like the Union Jack [TS]

  but I also really like the sixteen zero six variant on the Union Jack oh yeah it looks like you have a look at the you [TS]

  know six variant is a is a classic you just screwing with me you don't know yet looks like a five for a minute there I [TS]

  thought you really did though IMO I prefer the sixteen adaptation [TS]

  but the sixteen zero six is OK OK I'm going to send it to you and I'm going to make you look at it. [TS]

  Oh yes that's missing the red diagonal Yeah it's a sixteen sixteen zero six to eighteen zero one union flag of Great [TS]

  Britain that yes it is missing the red diagonals and I think it is looks very nice. [TS]

  I think it's quite bold I do love the modern Union Jack but I also I'm quite a fan of this variant and to nerd out [TS]

  when or whenever I have an excuse to use it in one of my videos the from talking about the U.K. [TS]

  In that timeframe I will almost always go with this because it is still recognizable as the U.K. Flag. [TS]

  Most people won't notice is missing the diagonals but it is technically more correct to use [TS]

  and I like it better so there we go. Geno I like about talking to you Greg. Well I don't feel like such a nerd. [TS]

  So they were you know but this [TS]

  but the flag I feel like we need to talk about is the New Zealand flag we've ignored it for too long there's been a lot [TS]

  of movement in the world of the New Zealand flag there's been a lot going on the hello internet listenership has been [TS]

  rumbling there's been discontent at ass nothing of this issue [TS]

  and OK I think it's time to clean one of the really I may be overstating the case that we did get a lot of mysteries [TS]

  about yes so we now have we as in the world now has the short list for potential alternatives to the New Zealand flag [TS]

  Yes So as a as a brief reminder to people. [TS]

  New Zealand is considering changing its flag there's a short list of forty flags that they're going to put to I think a [TS]

  popular vote to dissipate German which people like [TS]

  and then that flag whatever the winner of that is going to go against the current Zealand flag headed a head head to [TS]

  head not the Super Bowl of flags. [TS]

  Yes it is a Super Bowl of flags I mean there that have you opened up your web browser to take a look at it I am [TS]

  scrolling through them as we speak because you have never looked at this before this is you're looking at this with [TS]

  virgin eyes are you not. [TS]

  That's well I could agree with you and lot of our listeners [TS]

  but I'm not that kind of guy I have had a quick browse a few weeks ago [TS]

  when they first came out a sort of scroll down to get an I.V. [TS]

  But I have not looked at much data in the saying of the sentence I've probably spent more time looking at the flags [TS]

  and I have previously so this is my first proper look what do you think What are you thinking where you first thought [TS]

  looking well my own overarching comment looking at the mall as a group is. Well done. [TS]

  Like there with the unlock the mono you think they're appropriate on are the New Zealand there are very few flags he [TS]

  would look at [TS]

  and think that's bit of a stink a lot most of them I think a quote good solid flags eyecatching nice if you do know [TS]

  something of New Zealand you can usually find something in them that says New Zealand to my overall impression is [TS]

  positive there is a clear cut winner for Mont [TS]

  but will come to that second What's your overall impression of this is collection. [TS]

  Yeah I have to say well design flags so the commonality if you're not looking at this page is these forty flags many of [TS]

  them are incorporating this same design elements within them so there is of course the fern made famous by the All [TS]

  Blacks which is used on many of these flags there's also a symbol which I was unfamiliar which I am not quite sure how [TS]

  to pronounce it but I think you want to call it the core RW right after that sound right to you. [TS]

  That sounds pretty good. [TS]

  Alice let's say that's right you know the core rule is it's a spiral [TS]

  and in the post to be a it's another symbolic representation of a fern if you think of the way a fern leaf unrolls it [TS]

  unrolls in this particular spiral pattern and so this this Kuru symbol is like an abstract notion of a fern [TS]

  and also really brings up a lot of thoughts of waves doesn't it looks very wise like a lot [TS]

  and obviously New Zealanders are see loving people well this is that this is one of the reasons why I was unaware of [TS]

  the symbol but I really quite like it [TS]

  and in many of the flag designs the way they have done the colors of the spirals is in vocative of the ocean [TS]

  and also of a fern at the same time so I have to say. If there is any alternate symbol that is going to be used. [TS]

  I'm quite a fan of this Caruso and ball I think it looks good [TS]

  and I think there are a bunch of of good designs that are incorporating it yeah I'm not a maybe it's just me many of [TS]

  the flags also have the stars I'm not a huge fan of the stars. [TS]

  Mainly sort of the Southern Cross which is on the current flag. [TS]

  Usually usually the stars are arranged Southern Cross but yeah they're real common thing. [TS]

  Yes most of them have the Southern Cross at that I should have clarified with that some of them have additional [TS]

  constellations nearby which I'm not familiar with [TS]

  but I'm not a big fan of the Southern Cross I think stars are overused in flags particularly on the American flag [TS]

  when many stars someone just one star crazy if I was in charge of a new country [TS]

  or I was in charge of a flag redesign for a country I would lay down a no stars rule you know what the world doesn't [TS]

  need it doesn't need flags with more stars I would make an exception for the Southern Cross the right because I think [TS]

  chucking stars on your flag just because star status is I agree a bit out hat [TS]

  but the race in the Southern Cross is a bit different is it actually uses the constellation a constellation [TS]

  and that's unusual [TS]

  and it's using a constellation that gives you a sense of place you know at the southern hemisphere so it gives you a [TS]

  bit. It's more evocative of the place than just a ranging fifty stars to represent fifty different things. [TS]

  Oh very you're entitled to your opinion I think the Southern Cross you maybe is a little bit of an exception here [TS]

  and should just be lumped in with all the other stuff. [TS]

  Uses I will grant you that it is an exception and that is the best use of stars [TS]

  but this is a case of everybody else has already ruined it. [TS]

  I go all of these other people who use all of these stars in a dumb way of hey I have a flag Oh what am I going to do a [TS]

  quick Blue put a star on it alright boom we're done right Somalia it's all set against the Jews ruin the stars for [TS]

  everybody else so it is this. [TS]

  This is the best way to do it but I would still I was the put no stars for my New Zealand flag the colors red [TS]

  and blue which are on the current New Zealand flag very common [TS]

  but also obviously a real common theme through a lot of the flax which is unusual in flags is a complex [TS]

  and I think the black ones are quite striking. [TS]

  OK there is one flag here which is basically the All Blacks flag the silver fern on the black background it's the one [TS]

  that's Kosova Fed brackets black and white [TS]

  and it's got five Kyle Lockwood written next to it if you happen to be looking at the page. [TS]

  Yes A put links in the show notes as well the thing that irritates me lately is it's not exactly the same as the All [TS]

  Blacks flag. [TS]

  It's it's a much rounder fern where as something I like about the All Blacks lag is that that fern is more aggressive [TS]

  looking is sharper edges some my my feeling is if you're going to go with that look you should make it just the same. [TS]

  So of these flags I actually don't like the one that we originally discussed or you have to do the white fur [TS]

  and on the black background because it's it's too similar but it's not exactly the same [TS]

  and it just feels it just feels like oh we want to do this [TS]

  but we're not going to do exactly that so I would change pretty quickly it would are it would only take a year OTOH [TS]

  until you kind of. [TS]

  You know he got used to the change I meant only if the All Blacks then adopted this as their flag as well you have to [TS]

  have the ferns match Well I don't think it's going to cause you a lot of disk disk concern great help [TS]

  and you watch the All Blacks play never I've never known the play once [TS]

  but even still I know their flag well enough that looking at this one I could look at it [TS]

  and say that seems different to me and then I had to go look at the all black one [TS]

  and confirm that yes it was different. [TS]

  So that's why I don't actually I don't actually like this one [TS]

  but there are enough good choices here that I would actually have a hard time picking out which one is my top favorites. [TS]

  Yeah I think New Zealand has a bunch of good choices here I'm not sure it's my favorite but I do I do like the black [TS]

  and white cord to design on one of the flags I think that's very nice. The ones called Corey BLACK Yeah. [TS]

  Kaoru just an imprint the seas with the black you know I like that but there there's an alternate an alternate color [TS]

  and slightly different ratio it looks like which is on here it's called Pico Pico which is the core with almost a two [TS]

  tone green colour on it I like that one I think McCullough's aroma. [TS]

  Yeah I don't know if they are the best for New Zealand but I like the way it looks [TS]

  and I'm trying to look at the ones without stars that I have to admit I do kind of like this grey one with that is the [TS]

  other in cross horizon. [TS]

  Oh yeah we just had the line through it [TS]

  and the stars even though I said before no stars of all of them I think that one actually does look look the bath so [TS]

  I'm not sure I could easily pick one that I think is is the winner on this list. [TS]

  OK Do you have anyone that calls out to you I think they have to go with the silver fair [TS]

  and I don't disagree with what you said about the slot adaptation Jarrin with you [TS]

  and I was in think the phone is a little bit too big on the flag and could do with being a bit smaller. [TS]

  Agreed it takes really a bit too much of the flag but I think if they go with something else. [TS]

  They're overthinking it just do what you know is right and I think that's the right thing today and you know. [TS]

  Those other points we raced I think are a minor I think that's the right decision I think using the the color of this [TS]

  kind of wave curved thing with the and mistake I think it's a bit I do like out looks but I think it's a bit new way [TS]

  and it trendy and it's fashionable [TS]

  and I think it will go out of fashion it was something that's designed by like you know a water company or something [TS]

  and I think it looks a bit like a corporate design more than a flag [TS]

  and I mean that said the fair enough if this is a very unconventional flag to you but that's a that's an exception [TS]

  but I pretty much agree with what you said I do think the Southern Cross horizon one although that looks like a C.D.P. [TS]

  Gray sort of going away is a nice looking flag I think quite a few and I think the Seven Stars one is nice looking. [TS]

  I still think what I thought before they should go with the Sylvan I mean disagree with you on that seven stars one I [TS]

  don't like that one at all. OK that one that one's not great yeah. [TS]

  CO little honorable mention here that I just want to point out not a fly that I would pick for New Zealand [TS]

  but I love because we were just talking about the Union Jack one of the flags is called Black Jack [TS]

  and someone has taken the Union Jack flags in the corner. [TS]

  They've turned it into black and white and red [TS]

  and I can only describe it as almost Lord Of The Rings of finding the Union Jack they have these little Caruso pyros at [TS]

  the end of several of the lines I love that little modification of the Union Jack I would never pick that as the New [TS]

  Zealand flag I think that is an interesting little design element that somebody came up with that I think looks quite [TS]

  good it's a coat thing but I think it shouldn't be on the list and oh yeah I was I would like you. [TS]

  Yeah I wouldn't put it on there either if I were if I had been on the committee I would have said no [TS]

  but you know I would have passed the guy a note you know like David's [TS]

  and say oh I like that the look that's an nice piece of design work there. [TS]

  We shall wait with bated breath to say what the people of New Zealand. [TS]

  Yeah I'm really curious to see how this goes well we will we will have to follow it up with this pod cast that breaks [TS]

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  Oh we want to finally do this least by weekly weigh in the history of by weekly [TS]

  or bi we haven't we haven't done I haven't weighed myself today I cry. Having whiteness of it wakes. [TS]

  But I think when he saw this and get back get back on a I mean a few things have happened in our nominee for us [TS]

  and so things have been happening and I have been exercising and I have been eating well [TS]

  but that's excuses it's unacceptable I am not going to fall back on excuses I'm just going to say I'm rubbish. [TS]

  I've done this I want to I'm willing to give it another go. We have me back right. [TS]

  Oh yeah I will have you back now to doubt I'm glad that we finally come come full circle on the bi weekly weigh in [TS]

  those going to happen again but I want to say that is oh yes you know weak willed [TS]

  but I went to America with full knowledge that their friends [TS]

  and nooo way on God's green earth that I was going to maintain a diet for four [TS]

  or maybe five weeks in America because America is filled with delicious things to eat. [TS]

  Absolutely everywhere and I was on vacation and I just thought you know what this isn't going to happen [TS]

  and if I'm going to take the hit on the biweekly way in so be it [TS]

  and we just ended up never really do with this I recently lane while we were on vacation [TS]

  but so I guess why you started quite about it. [TS]

  Don't you dare I wanted to keep doing it and you're like oh no I've never read my stuff we can't talk about it [TS]

  but I wanted to track how fat I was getting a ticket because I thought I will do this [TS]

  and I will own that this is this just what's happening. [TS]

  If anyone travels to the United States for that period of time and comes back why unless I want to give them a medal. [TS]

  Yeah yeah that's like a an achievement in gaming of you should get a little bad saying I went to the United States [TS]

  and I lost weight [TS]

  and also for me it's an extra problem that I'm aware of all of this stuff that I can only eat in America that I knew as [TS]

  a kid like I have this additional problem a year I can only eat these when I'm in America and say oh [TS]

  but I'm not going to be here for another year maybe who knows how long and so it's an it's an additional problem. [TS]

  I'm like that in a strata [TS]

  when I go back to a strategy I take my wife through supermarkets I'm like I'm all the goodness you've got to come down [TS]

  this all the something I have to show you see this chocolate [TS]

  but I hear about some sort of sad that my wife does this in her Why with food that I can only describe as apps. [TS]

  Loosely revolting and disgusting. [TS]

  There there are all of these Japanese candies or fish flavored candy things that she grew up with that each [TS]

  and every one of them. [TS]

  Tastes like poison but because she grew up with them as a kid she is delighted by them and so [TS]

  when we're in Hawaii O's have to go to the store [TS]

  and pick up these horrible horrible looking things like oh it's fermented grapes that have been left underground for [TS]

  years and then they sprinkled fish bits on top of them [TS]

  and is always delicious like no it is not a list of the US gov't converted my wife successfully to a few a strategy [TS]

  delicacies I'm sure the thing that you like in Australia you could convince people to like but this is [TS]

  but this is a bridge too far but everybody has that stuff with what you grew up with as a kid [TS]

  and his doorways taste different to you. [TS]

  I'll drop us a let me drop a few names [TS]

  and gradually for the Aussies out there that I've converted my wife to the Cherry Ripe Cherry Ripe The Violet Crumble [TS]

  Violet Crumble and obviously Tim Tams Tim Tams you know him sound familiar I think of I've heard of them towns. [TS]

  Yeah Tim Tams a lot of English people that Tim Tams I've kind of realized that you know they realize the errors of [TS]

  their way in fact you know what my my wife even will protect a vigil much which I'm really proud of the Not often [TS]

  but occasionally [TS]

  and that's that is very good so to me the apex of not dieting was I sent you a picture of this ice cream that I eat in [TS]

  America which is I almost don't want to mention it out loud because I am convinced there is heroin inside of this ice [TS]

  cream because I'm not normally like an ice cream sweet kind of guy [TS]

  but as I go if you take one bite of it you have to eat all of it and it is Blue Bunny. [TS]

  Peanut butter panic it is amazing it is the best ice cream I have ever tasted and you just have to eat all of it [TS]

  when you have a single bite of it and so. [TS]

  I'm spreading this out into the world that if you ever see one of these I'm just saying it might be worth several years [TS]

  off the end of your life to bring this into your experience because it is that good. [TS]

  The were the the worst thing in the world was OK I've given up my diet fine [TS]

  but I would eat peanut butter panic while watching a television show that was about people doing these wilderness [TS]

  survival the primary the primary in durance of which was there was no food to eat it all as I am watching almost every [TS]

  night people starving to death on T.V. [TS]

  For my entertainment while I have a pint of ice cream in front of me that I am eating you know just like a big antic [TS]

  piggy monster This is great. [TS]

  Well Mr piggy months to what are we going to do about this bi weekly Why do we need are we going to use existing [TS]

  numbers and we like drawing a line saying stop from today. You tell me what to do and I would. [TS]

  Yeah I was trying to think about how how to arrange this I think the simplest thing to do is to say let's just start [TS]

  over from this point so why I'll weigh myself after the podcast and tell you of last next podcast. [TS]

  Yeah yeah well yeah that's I think I will do the same thing away myself tomorrow in the next time we record will talk [TS]

  about we'll talk about what's happened. [TS]

  That's the easy thing to do because otherwise like I've got some lost ground to make up I mean yeah I probably Let's [TS]

  start again that cause I'm I've got myself up to a nice big big number that I can start I might get a few easy I might [TS]

  get a few E.K.G.'s in L.A. and Back. [TS]

  All right they go to be able we didn't forget ridden forget we were just ashamed what P.D. Months as we were. [TS]

  We were talking about going back to home towns are just really quickly wanted to mention an article that I read you had [TS]

  something about Adelaide Yeah well we haven't mentioned much of an idea in this part cast so I feel like we had to get [TS]

  one in the U.K. [TS]

  Has an article it was in all the media [TS]

  but I have to put a link to The Economist to cause I thought that would give me a bit more credit with the Jew [TS]

  and the list came out of the most livable cities in the world. [TS]

  Oh yeah they do this every year there comes out all the times and I think these things are interesting [TS]

  and I are interesting number one was Melbourne in a strategy which is a fantastic city I don't know. Yeah. Astray. [TS]

  Canada New Zealand these places usually do pretty well on the list and in that day that is the case here. [TS]

  Number one Melbourne Number two the N. [TS]

  A number three Vancouver number for Toronto and then equal fifth with Calgary was Adelaide a strategy [TS]

  and the fifth most livable city in the world. [TS]

  Wow Top stuff I was just trying to look I can't pull up a company that does it usually just assess the strategy of [TS]

  Tourism Commission. [TS]

  Secondly by the liberal city list is interesting because there I like to read about the the way they do it [TS]

  and they're picking interesting markers but one of the things is that America always does. [TS]

  Hair or a bully on these lists that it is almost always the top American city is Honolulu [TS]

  but even then it'll be like forty S. On the list and then there won't be another American city until seventy F. [TS]

  On the list what is it that brings American cities down what's that or kill the C.E.O. [TS]

  One of the big things is the average murder rate of Usually one of the big problems in that although it is that violent [TS]

  crime per capita is not so great in America [TS]

  when you start ranking first world cities against each other like that that is usually counts against America the other [TS]

  thing is I dimly remember is the problems with transportation is usually a problem for a lot of American cities as well [TS]

  as in public transportation they do it in some kind of measure like what percentage of your life do you spend commuting [TS]

  every cause that's why that that's what this list as opposed to be about alike which is the nicest city to live in [TS]

  and if you're spending a big amount of your time commuting that's not nice in your daily experience. [TS]

  Adelaide doesn't have a lot of matters for Taylor. [TS]

  Adelaide has goodness in fact we could do a whole put cost one diabetic I've noticed how great gravy. [TS]

  You're always you always have the cheeriest of topic that you bring up anyway so I just I haven't got much as I either [TS]

  I just want to bring it up because Adelaide so another thing that up in bring up a lot another one of the growing [TS]

  number of corners we have in this the expanding polygon of a pod cast is. [TS]

  Jobs and things that people do while listening to the Hello into their pockets Cora Oh that's [TS]

  when I like this one I like all you like I was going to this what it was like a good ones OK I thought you were [TS]

  building up to something else and I was I was bracing myself [TS]

  but now this one I'm giving you the all clear on a clear job I'd be up in getting lots of a mouse I'm keeping them [TS]

  and I hope maybe today more with them at some stage [TS]

  but you know we've got to crack on with his ego us we've got we've got more Adelaide stuff to be talking about that [TS]

  let's just quickly let's just quickly to do one that really caught my eye again as usual gray this is going to involve [TS]

  sending in pictures because this person has sent pictures of themselves listening to the podcast while going about [TS]

  their activities. [TS]

  There's two now since you won first this is the one that the public will be allowed to say they weren't there that say [TS]

  the second one I like it [TS]

  when we get photos that are so top secret that not everyone can see them say Here comes the one that everyone will say [TS]

  you can tell people what this is great. [TS]

  Oh this this looks like hello internet at the front of I can't even tell it's at the cockpit of something is that it is [TS]

  it a jet above the clouds is that what I'm looking at that sort of looks like. [TS]

  Let me continue this journey on a highway to the danger zone. Let me take you to Indian Ocean present day. [TS]

  Let us review the shirts and play picture volleyball together as I send you this next picture. [TS]

  You're meeting in making a movie reference Aren't you the Asli obviously not [TS]

  when that you know I don't know that movie. [TS]

  Here comes the next one and I know enough to know that the movie that you're making reference to [TS]

  but I've never actually seen it [TS]

  and I K This is this is looking in the other direction of man very cool so going to going to describe this you can [TS]

  describe it we've been given permission to describe it so this is a a selfie of the person flying this jet with their [TS]

  math down and a little piece of paper in front of them that says Hello Brady and Gray Yeah I say hello to you. [TS]

  Mysterious jet pilot this is awesome. [TS]

  I've been given I've been given the authorization to give this person and I really S. [TS]

  and Obviously I'm usually want to go for maverick [TS]

  but I was asked not to use that they were going to call this person Viper OK And I've got an e-mail here from Viper. [TS]

  And it says hi Brady I occasionally listen to hello internet. Fly a fascist yet. [TS]

  I thought I'd share as listeners have been sharing strange places to listen to hello internet. [TS]

  Now Viper again ology is that this is rather an outlandish claim [TS]

  but I've shown you how she knew the picture evidence this is that a factory to me of course I never listen while [TS]

  performing. [TS]

  Mission or flight safety tasks that would be acceptable [TS]

  and also I wouldn't have the mental capacity who have as part of the job is sometimes flying long distances often over [TS]

  oceans with nice saner eight with no mental stimulation it can be a struggle to stay alert for over ten hours sitting [TS]

  in the heart of Jackson's site with no shelter a man there is no provided in-flight entertainment [TS]

  and there's no I want to talk to so I found listening to hello internet is a great way to break the monotony [TS]

  and it is a highlight of a long transit flight ten hours in one of those little jet seats how does he go to the [TS]

  bathroom. [TS]

  They were diapers that of a viper diaper vastly here says I have made a point of recently flying supersonic while [TS]

  listening now that Concorde is retired perhaps I'm the only person who can claim this so we have a supersonic listening [TS]

  to hello internet. [TS]

  I know it thinking that's a hell of a risk to take with a twenty nine million dollar father play that a vat of flies an [TS]

  F. [TS]

  Eighteen which is I'm not even joking here is my favorite fighter jet area because a striving to quite familiar with it [TS]

  if I change it as a sane human action quite a bit for various reasons so I did cite a viper you know. [TS]

  Well the I guess the obvious question is how can you listen to Hell of it today. [TS]

  Appreciate he's not listening while he inverted by how do you listen I can see how he listens to it. [TS]

  He's listening on Apple. [TS]

  Standard headphones just stuffed under his helmet that's how we listening yeah it's really funny disease [TS]

  and one flying a jet aircraft [TS]

  and also just using Apple standard headphones it seems in Congress to be somehow I guess they don't have an auxiliary [TS]

  audio input jack like in your car. [TS]

  Standard in those jets the noise level in the jet's lesson you think the cockpit is sealed with engine is far behind [TS]

  the vast majority of the noise is directed backwards with the exhaust Affleck there are speaker quipped here cups in [TS]

  the helmet which block noise like a mouse. [TS]

  Most flights Any an arrow to [TS]

  when we're rehearsing missions longer flights where podcast this thing happens because of his he only listens on these [TS]

  long flights only come along every few weeks during these missions where communication can be critical we do where [TS]

  additional read your ear plugs like sort of formula one car drivers with where the however they've become uncomfortable [TS]

  ever time and we take them out for the long boring flights and there you can just use ear plugs and if ions [TS]

  and that's when he says things like He says the radio speakers in the helmet. [TS]

  Easily loud enough when the workload is lie [TS]

  and as you can see from the picture I simply use Arthur near pubs under the helmet I think an F.A. [TS]

  Eighteen pilot flying faster than sound. Listening to hello internet. [TS]

  Qualifies as pretty cool it's pretty cool pretty cool indeed I think I've been labouring under the misapprehension for [TS]

  a while that you know people with this into the pod cast sort of cheering pouring moments during drudgery [TS]

  and now listen to us for a bit of mild amusement [TS]

  and maybe a bit of a chuckle I'm now realizing that most of the people who listen to hello internet just have such [TS]

  awesome exciting jobs like to fly planes and directing space missions and driving [TS]

  or subdue trucks I think they listen to us to card observes dead because their lives are so also. [TS]

  They're like oh I just need to listen to a couple of guys who are really boring and have really boring jobs. [TS]

  What's hello internet podcast ways that ladies [TS]

  and gentlemen this is called selection bias so I don't want to jinx anything but speaking of Viper [TS]

  and planes I think maybe it's time to move to plane crash corner [TS]

  or you want to do this now I think it's time we haven't done plane crash corner for quite awhile. [TS]

  I've notice that we haven't done it for quite a while that there has been a clamor for it has IMO is an exaggerated [TS]

  but I think people are sick people of. [TS]

  There's been quite a bit happening and in the plane crash well just like me with I can't wait to hear about it. [TS]

  Well as I've said before I don't think it's that job to be sort of you know a news service. [TS]

  Oh good we can agree on that. [TS]

  Yeah I don't know say like plane crashes pretty terrible as I always say [TS]

  but there's a couple of things that have come up. [TS]

  Worthy of mention and I'm just curious as to whether I've crossed your radar as well and with you have any thoughts on. [TS]

  OK Let me get my let me get my I always get worried [TS]

  when his plane crashed corner why so never I never know what kind of a horror you're going to present me with Abyssinia [TS]

  boy that that's a terrible thing that there are some terrible things here but I also have a good here we go. [TS]

  But let's [TS]

  but let's not let's not you know it's just deal with this just do with the facts right OK first play M H three seventy [TS]

  this was the Malaysia Airlines flight that went missing. [TS]

  Gosh was must be over a year ago and now this is the one that has vanished obviously [TS]

  and I went looking for in the in the ocean and they haven't found him. M H three seventy. [TS]

  Some news that did come up that we didn't discuss on the podcast was actually found some debris from the plane. [TS]

  Did you know this crap I did not know this may I slap her on is that how you pronounce [TS]

  or it's part it's one of the sort of floppy things on the wing. [TS]

  Was found washed up I don't know how to pronounce any of the parts. [TS]

  As part of the wing with which we're pretty comfortable with the wing part of the wing was found on a on an island. [TS]

  Code reuse Nyon which is in the Indian Ocean it's just a stiff Madagascar it was a it's a French territory which I'm [TS]

  sure you're probably aware of because I know how much you love all these little I am aware of this place yes. [TS]

  Yeah so I did and a half I think I'm a fan a few other little bits of debris there as well. [TS]

  Now obviously this plane did not get anywhere near a union [TS]

  and I think it could've So we're looking at ocean currents here [TS]

  and over the course of a year oh say a few bits of debris have made over way to this island I don't know how well this [TS]

  is going to inform the search for the main made wreckage I think we can pretty safely a share now that there is [TS]

  wreckage summer in the say if the Fed a few bits [TS]

  but I thought I thought that was worthy of note because it was a rather tartly start of the podcast that this this [TS]

  tragedy happened so it sort of I have to admit I would never of thought after all this time I still wouldn't founder [TS]

  shows how naive I am I was sure that found it within a few weeks but here we are over a year later [TS]

  and I've just found first little bit of a washed up on an island. [TS]

  OK yeah the think that it got me thinking about I was ocean currents because it got me thinking about things I was [TS]

  obsessed with as a little boy the obviously plane crashes is one of them right. [TS]

  But the Blackstone the black stamp of course [TS]

  but also ocean currents I was always fascinated especially the idea of messages in bottles you know going all the way [TS]

  across an ocean and ending up somewhere else. [TS]

  And it did make me think if we were ever if you're ever going to let me have another corner on hello it's now to hand I [TS]

  cannot stop you just spontaneously generate corners at this point I have bit of a corner generating machine [TS]

  but if I was a I would if I could have another corner I would love a koan [TS]

  and this to be a corner you could play to I would love a quarter where we just talk about those things that abscess he [TS]

  was a kid that even when you grow up a still a little bit cold mysterious. [TS]

  And for me these big long ocean currents and [TS]

  and messages in bottles would definitely qualify for whatever that corner would be code things that credit was obsessed [TS]

  with his kid Kona right [TS]

  but anyway the the great coincidence was just as I was preparing to tell you about a reunion so I was just looking up [TS]

  at the news websites to see if there was any developments it turns out another one of my childhood obsessions has [TS]

  somehow got into the mix with the story because just in the last day [TS]

  or to a volcano has started a rap taking on reunion I love OK You see what you're doing right now Brady you're making [TS]

  things Brady was obsessed with as a kid corner real thing because you know you're not actually talking about plane [TS]

  crash corners anymore you know you've snuck in this new corner that you're doing that's what actually happened. [TS]

  I'm actually about to start secretly working on a list of things I was obsessed with as a kid [TS]

  and sort of start spring if you are new so we have plane crashes ocean currents with messages in bottles [TS]

  and of OK Nice OK Do you know that the Shoreham air show crash I do not know nothing of this you really don't know [TS]

  about this one either. [TS]

  You're always surprised him for them I don't watch the news I don't follow news stuff on Twitter. [TS]

  I'd what how would I ever hear about these things except from you you go and read it quite a lot there. [TS]

  Yeah [TS]

  but you forget that read it because I have an account there it's customized to the things that I'm interested in [TS]

  and so I'm on subscribe from all the general news where am I going to see this stuff. Well videos maybe incest anyway. [TS]

  See [TS]

  when you log on to youtube all of your related suggested viewing is is air crashes I'm sure that You Tube knows you love [TS]

  watching [TS]

  and so just all down the side it's all watch this plane crash while I was actually careful to look at a future [TS]

  but I stopped watching. Plane crash video is because I don't want the stick it recommended to me with her. [TS]

  Anyway there was a that this being a few precious just lightly at air shows that I guess ASH I ses [TS]

  and isn't because I guess are in the northern hemisphere because the weather station but there was a. [TS]

  Kill a nasty one at a place called Shore deadbeat dad can your neck of the woods down there south of England the lot of [TS]

  the Sussex I think it is but it was it was an old plane it was a coat a hawk a hunter [TS]

  and the pilot was doing a loop a loop de loop at the ashes and something went wrong with our what went wrong [TS]

  and that he crashed but he crashed. [TS]

  Sort of along like I broke with all these cars are not like in the direction of the causes website was almost like he's [TS]

  went along the road and just collected all these cars in this huge Fabo says this is a con Eric type landing. [TS]

  I've not not same kind of I don't know that landing and another not so anyway. [TS]

  Really terrible as I think eleven people died. [TS]

  Amazingly not the pilot who is not in good shape but for all these people in cars as unbelievable a bat [TS]

  and it's also Amber leave the bad luck [TS]

  but I was just wondering your thoughts on air shows would you go to an issue I went to air shows as a kid he did really. [TS]

  Yeah I'm not sure I ever chose to go to an air show but I know that there were there were times [TS]

  when I was there I don't remember how I got there in my father took me there. [TS]

  That seems likely anyway obviously her but just about the safety official has been coming up in the news [TS]

  and everyone's mulling over the distances to this [TS]

  and that well there is use older planes at the air certainly this is the other thing as well using these outlines [TS]

  and now in the U.K. [TS]

  They've banned out planes from doing they look to Loopy the hardcore hardcore things [TS]

  and I've also granted these Hawker hunters for the time being they're all planes are not a safe they can't do the stuff [TS]

  you should ban old stuff is not safe I think they should do that with cars I think there should be a limit to how old a [TS]

  car can be when still out on the road the U.K. Is really good for that they don't say the U.K. [TS]

  Is good for keeping out of the road because they have this annual MIT that you cast a guy three so if you're if you've [TS]

  gotten out Beta if it doesn't pass this test a very statements including pollution admissions [TS]

  and safety stuff goes of the road. [TS]

  IOW I'm always struck when I go back to a strategy or by how much outer and paid up because same. [TS]

  Because they astringent there in the U.K. [TS]

  Over cuz it was just seem sane human shiny [TS]

  and that's because the MIT keeping keeping old one out bang us off the road I did not realize that. Well done U.K. [TS]

  Moten U.K. Anyway really terrible sure but the other thing that I have found really interesting about this. [TS]

  Shoreham tragedy is the way different media have handled the footage this is this was very well filmed this is fresh [TS]

  from various angles including from people. [TS]

  With very graphic vantage points this is so I always IMO And you're obviously the news media does takes it was footage [TS]

  and start sharing it then other I think they just take it and then ask questions later [TS]

  but the other thing I find really interesting is how the cuts they might hurt what they decide is OK to show [TS]

  and not show I mean you have a particular example here of is there any channels that are that are just all Gore all the [TS]

  time. No but I know you don't not talking about stuff. Nope. [TS]

  The thing I thought is doing is they were not like when a plane crashes and obviously this fire [TS]

  and then the fire goes away the big old big fire goes away in a few seconds [TS]

  and then you just go smoke this is they always cut the fire like they show the plane heading towards the ground [TS]

  and they cut so you don't see the fire [TS]

  and then they show you a few seconds later all the smoke billowing up that I want to show the moment of the fire which [TS]

  I can understand you know why because maybe that's like the moment as I mentioned before one of the very few places I [TS]

  ever see the news is silently on a T.V. [TS]

  Screen at my gym [TS]

  and I think of that as the what's on fire channel because I say I swear if anything anywhere on the whole face of the [TS]

  earth. [TS]

  Catches on fire they just love to show it [TS]

  and so every time I walk by that screen I swear to god it's like oh look at the thing that's on fire halfway across the [TS]

  earth. [TS]

  Oh the thing caught on fire nearby is all what a great story we can get our own footage there that So [TS]

  when you say that there's someone who's hesitant to show the fire this is not my experience of what the silent news [TS]

  channel has on of my gym which is just things burning [TS]

  and people running all over the world it's more like it it's the moment is the moment people die as well as not there [TS]

  they're not willing to show up to half a second before it happens [TS]

  and I wouldn't shy from half a second after it happens [TS]

  but I'm not willing to show the moment does happen it's an interesting [TS]

  and it might actually be a really good decision I'm not I'm not saying that some steak [TS]

  or I'm against it I just find that. I would love to hear the justification for like it does seem interesting. [TS]

  If you willing to show up to half a second before it happens [TS]

  and the half a second after it happens I really I really think sensitive. [TS]

  If you're you know if you're someone you really care about loss that loss in that moment have you really made things [TS]

  better for them by not showing and I maybe you have maybe you have. [TS]

  Maybe it's a really good thing to do you know I don't think their prime concern is oh boy I hope we don't upset people [TS]

  who have had family members die in plane crashes. [TS]

  Oh I definitely think that's what it is but if that was their concern. [TS]

  Why are they why they love to talk about plane crashes all the time. [TS]

  Well because while they showing the footage it all I give if it's just to convey the information that an aircraft has [TS]

  crashed you can have a news person say that but they show the crash because it's salacious. [TS]

  Yeah but they wear this false cloak of sensitivity that is that's exactly my point [TS]

  and they're wearing their wearing the shortest skirt to that they can they can wear while still claiming a look how do [TS]

  you think we're being but it's not that's not the case at all so it can I guess that's what I was asking [TS]

  and you've kind of your thoughts of my question about what you think about which I find really interesting because [TS]

  that's what I'm saying is that sensitive is sensitive to cut away for a second daughter No I think it yeah it just give [TS]

  them a false cloak of feeling like Oh we're being decent people [TS]

  but they're not they know that they're not that's my point that's my take on it do you think mainstream news media [TS]

  should share this type of footage I know you haven't sameness but it's basically supply [TS]

  and doing a little like crashing into a road and a whole bunch of fire [TS]

  and people did die you know I mean this just this just rehashes the hall not the whole news argument without going down [TS]

  that argument of whether you know [TS]

  when you watching if news media is going to exist should they should they share the stuff you know I don't know I mean [TS]

  to me. [TS]

  Again I just to me the news is largely focuses on events that happened to catch people's attention [TS]

  but that is of no no value to almost every single person who's watching it that's my fundamental point on this is it's [TS]

  like well you're asking me to pretend that the thing is something that it isn't [TS]

  and it's whole purpose is to gain people's attention so like gas to soothe the purpose it shows accidents all the time [TS]

  you know that our individual events from which most of the viewers watching can learn nothing so yeah of course they're [TS]

  going to show that stuff I mean it's a different question of you know if I was if I was king Gray would I ban it like [TS]

  that's a that's a different question that then gets into censorship issue than I'm usually not on the side of centers [TS]

  of sound like you have mean of course I wouldn't censor the stuff [TS]

  but the thing that always bothers me about it is is talking about it as though it's conveying useful important [TS]

  information to people which you know again plane crashes totally tragic [TS]

  but they don't to me fall under the category of useful important information to almost every single person in a fair [TS]

  enough Frank you know I can argue with that iconic your with a. [TS]

  Saying this is this is why this is why I don't like playing cries corner as the whole thing that makes me so deeply [TS]

  uncomfortable every time you do at us clean issue I'm not sick I'm not squeamish I am genuinely concerned about people [TS]

  who are listening like it's it's a it's an intrinsically upsetting topic and there is no way around that [TS]

  and maybe this is just a case where my dial on this is turned up. [TS]

  Is turned up higher than normal I think math is maybe. It's just me probably not. I.K. [TS]

  Well thank you fear they are we've done thank risk on a lot of people a lot of people have been in touch of advice. [TS]

  There's two things so we we've we've checked it certainly is one of our way to CONUS today's episode of hello internet [TS]

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  and make your internetting better igloo the Internet you'll actually like this is a thing I had a my mind while I was [TS]

  in America is tipping because. I live in the U.K. [TS]

  Now I spend most of my actually really really I was spent all of my adult life in the U.K. [TS]

  Where there still is tipping but it is much much less than America and I forget how much tipping there is in America [TS]

  and how many [TS]

  and big US tipping situations you can wander into so this is a thing on my mind while I was there for a long period of [TS]

  time and especially [TS]

  when you're in a situation where you're traveling you're using services you know you're at restaurants [TS]

  or you're at hotels or other places and it just it just comes up so often in America [TS]

  and I find it absolutely exhausting I just I loathed tipping [TS]

  and it is it is not that it's not the money right it's not like I'm cheap am thinking I don't want to don't want to tip [TS]

  what I hate is this uncertainty. [TS]

  Yeah just the large number of people that I don't know the answer to am I supposed to tip you. [TS]

  How much am I supposed to tip you. Is a percentage. [TS]

  Moment or is this a couple of bucks moment or is this like five dollars kind of moment I find it just exhausting [TS]

  and it makes me want to avoid certain services. [TS]

  So for example if you go into a hotel I will go out of my way to never speak to the concierge because I feel like if I [TS]

  speak to you at all do I have to hand you money now do I have to hand you money at the end of my trip [TS]

  or is there a clock in in your head of a we've spoken to each other for sixty seconds [TS]

  and now I need to hand you five dollars I would just whatever whatever services the country years can provide I would [TS]

  not I would choose not to partake in any of them even if I would benefit from them because of the ambiguity of the [TS]

  tipping because it just but I feel like this is absolutely everywhere in America [TS]

  and it is very it is a very frustrating situation for me I'm probably more comfortable with social interactions [TS]

  and you are yet has pretty fair to say yeah but I am one hundred percent in agreement with you [TS]

  and I think it partly it's because I didn't grow up with a culture of tipping as well so IMO So starting further behind [TS]

  because there's not much of a tipping culture in strata that I also find it really or quit and difficult [TS]

  and try to avoid or you know I'm a big one for no no no I'll carry these eighteen bags up to my room myself. [TS]

  Oh yeah the hotel bellman. [TS]

  I will [TS]

  and have taken bags from the bellman because like you know what I don't want to go up in the elevator with you [TS]

  and we're just standing here and I just know that you're here because you're waiting for two dollars from me [TS]

  or is two dollars Even the appropriate amount I don't even know I'm like either I'm not I don't think I'm a cheap [TS]

  person you know and [TS]

  and of course I do to because I had to stand that the economy has evolved in such a way that this is necessary [TS]

  and I don't want to do over people who work in service and I'm sure you'll say no so I do it's not cheap ness and I [TS]

  and I respect that typical as to happen so I'm not saying you know I know to tipping [TS]

  but I do think it's very unfortunate that things did a vote this way because it does create a lot of difficulties and. [TS]

  I guess the question is if if that's true or if what I said Strether [TS]

  and it's the same here feel like it is the same theory why not overcompensate Why not just. [TS]

  Hand-out five bucks to everyone over time because then it's it's not going to pay you know going to I guess I'm saying [TS]

  is there on the side of generosity and just strike chips around all the time to everyone why don't you do that or [TS]

  or do you think you look like they have a douche if you do that as well if you had someone five bucks [TS]

  and he would have supposed to tip them. [TS]

  Yeah this is exactly the problem is you have this narrow margin in which it is correct and under [TS]

  or over both of those are wrong and both of those are awkward and I mean with the overtipping I mean [TS]

  when I was about to say is I would gladly quadruple the money that I spend on tips annually if I could be guaranteed to [TS]

  remove all ambiguity from every tipping situation in the future it is not a money issue at all because I mean if you [TS]

  actually think about how much money do you ever spend on tips in the year it's not a significant amount of money you [TS]

  know so that's why it's like it's not about that but it is weird [TS]

  and awkward to over tipped just as much as under tipping and this is actually a thing that I run into in the U.K. [TS]

  In the reverse because since I grew up in America I do have some expectations of times when you're going to tip. [TS]

  Yeah and it can be awkward in the U.K. [TS]

  when I tip someone who is not expecting it because then it feel like it's almost like degrading it's like oh we were [TS]

  just to normal human beings but then I handed you two pounds [TS]

  and you looked at me like suddenly I'm thinking I'm a man on a horse with a fancy top hat [TS]

  and I'm throwing coins on the ground for you to pick up your street urchin Oh we were normal people just engage in [TS]

  regular commerce before but now I have introduced this inequality that wasn't there before. [TS]

  That's why it's absolutely it's absolutely just terrible and awkward and and it's very hard to do right. Consistently S. [TS]

  and It is a nightmare is a nightmare. There are a fee. Places that handle it well. [TS]

  Us died a few black resorts in places where the policy is just you don't tick [TS]

  and then in the end you put a big wad of money into a box that old stuff share I quite like that I quite like going [TS]

  through a wake a result of not tipping all the people who are bringing me tricks [TS]

  and cleaning the room doing all the names just you know no one's go any money on them. [TS]

  Listen and then at the end you just put a how big stash of cash and on the life [TS]

  and that gets distributed amongst all the Paypal that I was thing that's a good solution [TS]

  and it's also quite often with a sort of to retype things for example [TS]

  when I've gone to the Himalayas a couple of times you know you're not tipping the porters and the Sherpas [TS]

  and then at the end you just give them one lot of money as one make a tip for the whole trip [TS]

  and you can give gotten son was a good amount of money per day isn't Again that makes things so much easier. [TS]

  Yeah that makes things that make things way better but I think it's the decision fatigue of it as well [TS]

  and yeah one place that I'm aware that I use precisely because there is no tipping is tuber so I semi frequently used [TS]

  to get around London [TS]

  and every time I use it I am blissfully aware of the fact that this ride does not end with me then having to decide on [TS]

  a tip for the person who has driven me and I guarantee I would use it. [TS]

  Way less if I had to [TS]

  and I know for a fact that I would because there's a competing service called Halo which used to be in the U.K. [TS]

  Before Gruber existed [TS]

  and they did have a thing that popped up at the end of every ride where you had to make a decision about how much did [TS]

  you want to tip the person or the drivers expected tips and I just hated that like I would way less use that service [TS]

  and then when Hooper came along [TS]

  and I realize I don't have to use the tips this is great I could just take this burden off your mind [TS]

  and it puts you back on this this level of I'm just I'm purchasing server. [TS]

  Says I don't have to make this additional decision is a crazy right. Grabs a crazy person. Of saying to you know it. [TS]

  To Morocco or the other day I mean arrived. [TS]

  American ship or and there was a driver who picks up and drives forty five minutes up to the mountains to the resort [TS]

  and I swear I think ninety percent of my cognitive power during that entire drive was spent thinking about the tip. [TS]

  Situation how do I pick this person because I'm playing in this is he part of this stuff with this much is outing what [TS]

  currency do I use. Where's my wallet. As US A swear so I thought about for the trip. [TS]

  Crazy in America need to say ahead of time. [TS]

  Restaurants are this special legal exception because well I think practically criminally is that they don't have to pay [TS]

  their staff minimum wage because they fall under this category of tipped employees are like OK this is crazy [TS]

  but it's legal. [TS]

  So if there's any place in America which you always tip and you just don't even think about it it is restaurants [TS]

  and my feeling with the tips in restaurants is because of the legal situation this is non optional. [TS]

  You're in a you are structurally in a position where stiffing a waiter [TS]

  or waitress on a tip in a restaurant in America is a huge dick move because of the way they are actually paid. [TS]

  Yeah I think so you have to do this but again when you think about you get a meal [TS]

  and you're at this restaurant it's just such an unpleasant way to end it with this little moment of a have to evaluate [TS]

  this other human being. Now on a very numerical scale that is directly with money and know how much they like this. [TS]

  Service how much they're not like the service and it becomes also a weird thing [TS]

  when you're in a big group of people like you eat together you have to decide about the tip because tips by definition [TS]

  come at the end of services they always put a little sour note on every interaction no matter how good it is has a come [TS]

  a bit standardized I with percentages [TS]

  when it comes to that kind of restaurants narrative I mean I know everyone has a different percentage was looking up [TS]

  some numbers beforehand because I was thinking [TS]

  when I went to America this time around I was really aware that the standard Tippit vice for restaurant that I was [TS]

  seeing was in the twenty to twenty five percent range [TS]

  and I thought way by members a kid like I thought it was in the fifteen percent range [TS]

  and I want to try to look up some data [TS]

  and this tip inflation thing is definitely the case that the average tips in the one nine hundred fifty S. [TS]

  Were ten percent and they've just keep slowly creeping up over time. [TS]

  Of of what the number is [TS]

  and so then it's like Oh great so now I have an additional thing to worry about with tips which is that if I'm not [TS]

  keeping up with the tipping news I will just eventually become a cheapskate in comparison to everybody else because [TS]

  we're having an arms race in tips the research on this seems to suggest that there's two reasons why tip inflation [TS]

  occurs one of which is that in group settings there are individuals who want to be extravagant with tips [TS]

  and this ends up causing everybody else to start calibrating what an average tip is so most people want to pay the [TS]

  average [TS]

  but if you're going out with groups a couple of extravagant people start to bend your notion of what an average tip is [TS]

  and then the second thing is that former wait staff not surprisingly. [TS]

  Tend to be much higher tippers and so as you're as you're getting. [TS]

  Wait staff circulating through the population they to bring up the average of what a tip is so even then it's like oh [TS]

  is there a standard tip. [TS]

  OK maybe again my mind I thought it was fifteen percent but then I arrived in America [TS]

  and discovered no like that's no longer the standard tip now it's at least twenty percent of the oh OK this is an [TS]

  additional stress that I wouldn't have considered before but even still [TS]

  when I was there I was trying to look up like under what circumstances should I to people [TS]

  and it is just hugely complicated and wildly disagreed upon [TS]

  and the one that seems to be the most controversial is the the cleaning staff at a hotel do you leave a tip for the [TS]

  cleaning staff at the hotel which to me was an amazing thing because I had never heard of this what do you mean is [TS]

  opposed to leave a tip for the cleaning staff aren't I paying for a hotel room and presumably the staff to clean it. [TS]

  They are whole different category of employees why do I tip just the cleaning staff why don't I tipped the other people [TS]

  in the hotel. [TS]

  It it seems like that to me that one was quite a surprise [TS]

  but it seems like a very standard It almost seems a bit like has a greeting card industry sort of creates these days [TS]

  and events to Soca it's always different work of creating sort of new new tip generous that you didn't even know [TS]

  existed before now so sad like like there was lots suddenly Father's Day and Mother's Day [TS]

  and all these days of Pia sooner than later as oh this tipping the toilet clean it is a new thing [TS]

  and tipping the person who replaces the toothpaste and tipping the person who cleans the gutters [TS]

  and if in America people are getting screwed over because they're in the class of employees that you don't need to pay [TS]

  minimum wage you have to tip those people. [TS]

  There's there's no way around that but [TS]

  and so I thought OK well maybe this would make like an interesting video let me try to find out who exactly are they [TS]

  and it varies state by state it's just impossible to know there is no way any reasonable person can travel [TS]

  and be expected to have any idea of which employees fall into this category and which don't. [TS]

  And this is to me adds to this whole burden I was making a list as I was traveling around because it was there was one [TS]

  there was one person I'll get to the just put me over the edge of like OK I have to talk about this. [TS]

  But the shuttle driver at the airports. [TS]

  Who's driving everybody around and I happen to get off the shuttle bus first and I gave the guy a couple dollars [TS]

  and then everybody else who got off the shuttle Nobody tipped him [TS]

  and also had a slightly weird moment handing him the dollars and like OK I did it wrong here. [TS]

  This person's not expecting money [TS]

  and now I feel like I've made awkward between us because I gave him two dollars was two dollars too much was it too [TS]

  little is everybody else is being a dick don't know you know there's there's there's the there's the restaurants like [TS]

  there's all of this stuff the bellman the concierge all of these people [TS]

  but the one that put me over the edge that I thought I don't understand this world anymore was I was at a a buff a [TS]

  breakfast at a nice restaurant where we pay for Buffy breakfast now the buffets are weird because you have these waders [TS]

  that are sort of halfway Toure's [TS]

  and I presume that you still tip them as well on a buff a breakfast even though they're just bring me coffee like [TS]

  there's literally nothing else they bring me because I get everything for myself [TS]

  but I guess I still am supposed to tip twenty percent it seems all very confusing but OK fine fine. [TS]

  Twenty percent of water if it's like included in your ever open to yeah [TS]

  but they have is that twenty percent on the coffee I like the now I just look like a miser. [TS]

  Right it just looks like a terrible person [TS]

  but the one that put me over the edge was I went up to get an omelet in the buffet [TS]

  and the omelet guy had a ball for tips in front of him and and IT people were putting tips in the [TS]

  and that was the one I just thought I have lost I have lost any ability to understand anything in the world am I am I [TS]

  supposed to tip the omelet guy in the buffet that I have paid for [TS]

  and also tipped the waiters is just this endless endless confusing thing to me [TS]

  and I hate it I hate the mental burden of it I hate the cognitive load of it I hate this social awkwardness of it [TS]

  and I hate the fundamental unknowability of it is that everything about it I hate Have you managed to put any sort of [TS]

  procedures are coping mechanisms in place [TS]

  or is this one really got you fly mixed this one has me flow mixed because in the restaurants it's like OK that's just [TS]

  easy it's a no brainer. I'm just going to tip the standard amount. [TS]

  I'm not I'm not going to vary it for service because it's not even optional if you know if this is as far as I'm [TS]

  concerned this is a required thing so OK fine that was really easy and that's the one that causes me the least dress [TS]

  but it's all of the other ones that I find really frustrating and there's there is there is no solution to this at all. [TS]

  There's no solution to it [TS]

  and it's just particularly bad in America so it's a bit more relief actually to be back to the U.K. [TS]

  and One not be in a situation room traveling so much so. [TS]

  And into the situations more and two it's just less expected in the U.K. [TS]

  You know how do you you know have problems with tipping in the can anyway you pretty you pretty sameness then you know [TS]

  you know you know I type in restaurants [TS]

  and the one that I do is a usually tip the delivery people given getting food delivered to the house. [TS]

  It's one of these things where if you just think about it too long it just doesn't make any sense because I look at if [TS]

  the pizza delivery guy but I don't tip the guy who delivers all the Amazon boxes. [TS]

  Yeah as they were why is it because it's food is that while I feel like this is a restaurant that has happened the guys [TS]

  who deliver the Pates in my car so usually sort of a lot younger. [TS]

  Their own God actually but there was a young guy [TS]

  and I always assume that a lot more exploited whereas the people who deliver a lot my groceries [TS]

  and a lot of my packages so I seem to be quite well to do adults and I shoot that day. [TS]

  Better paid and probably completely wrong there are so many problems with tipping [TS]

  and one of the things that try to to cut off people in advance is that everybody thinks that they do. [TS]

  Tipping based on service and they talk about oh it's as important feedback loop for quality of service [TS]

  and the studies on this come back and say no this is not an effect that the service that you get a restaurant [TS]

  or the service that you get any tipping situation has a less than one percent impact on average for the amount that [TS]

  someone tips [TS]

  and all of the things that matter for changing tipping they're just weird human prejudices so the number one thing that [TS]

  a someone can do to raise the amount of tips they get is be an attractive person of the opposite gender of the person [TS]

  who's tipping you write [TS]

  and say Oh is that how that is nothing is nothing to do with service this is just like this bizarre human bias [TS]

  expression machine so once again a people who are attractive benefit hugely [TS]

  and people who are unattractive I get the short end of the stick of this one like well that's not really fair [TS]

  and then this is built into someone's compensation they are it's terrible the thing. [TS]

  Give me the worst with tipping is that suddenly I have to carry a bunch of cash around. [TS]

  Yeah and there's nothing worse than realizing I'm in a moment when a tip is forthcoming [TS]

  and I have no cash on me because I'm really used to in the U.K. [TS]

  With the the chip and pin cards and now with the Apple Pay of just I hardly ever have any money on me and suddenly [TS]

  when you're in America is like oh no you you need to always have a wallet filled with dollar bills just all the time [TS]

  because you might need to tip someone at any moment [TS]

  and that is just an awful part of it to tell is no solution to this I was just complaining that difficult world we live [TS]

  in that so there is have you haven't had a job where you would take. [TS]

  Now Never have you know I should have put out a tip jar to my jobs the should have done that. [TS]

  Yeah when I worked at the library [TS]

  and I was getting people books I should have just stood there really awkward Lee after ahead of their book for a while [TS]

  and just waited for a dollar bill across my ball gazing at your fate. Exactly. [TS]

  But isn't that the universal symbol for please give me a tip is someone lingering awkwardly showing you the other [TS]

  things like oh he's the last which And he is how to open a car got I forgot about that I just I have yet to [TS]

  successfully figure out what is the code word for I understand how to use the lights you don't need to send someone up [TS]

  to my hotel room to explain to me what the bed is [TS]

  and where the toothbrushes go I don't even know what that person is that is that the bellhop whoever the person is it [TS]

  comes up to the hotel room with you I always feel like I try to say as strongly as I can I do not need require your [TS]

  services I can use this key I can figure out a room please don't come up again it's not cheap nice [TS]

  but also get so could when suddenly that two [TS]

  or three different people get involved in like five people approach your bags up [TS]

  and take more of come to show you around [TS]

  and hang on now what do I do if the elevator that's the worst part is going up in the elevator with the person though I [TS]

  have to make small talk with you again like can I take you in advance to not to not help me this is actually I don't [TS]

  know if I've told this before [TS]

  but in in London some buildings have a a porter in the bottom of the building with someone who keeps an eye on the door [TS]

  like in the bigger apartment buildings. [TS]

  Yeah so I never lived in a building like that [TS]

  but my my strategy has always been that if for whatever reason I end up in a big apartment building where they have a [TS]

  porter at the bottom I am going to pre-tape that person their Christmas bonus with the explicit instructions of Please [TS]

  Please don't think that I'm a terrible person but I just want to be able to walk in the door every day [TS]

  and just ignore you and pretend that you're not here [TS]

  and I will give you a bigger Christmas bonus than anybody right now. [TS]

  Up front in advance so we can avoid a years worth of awkwardness here is your bonus I just want to walk in. [TS]

  Please don't ever say hello Mr Grey I does want to walk right past the desk and go to the elevator. Here's the money. [TS]

  Just pretend I am the invisible man and we will both be happier. [TS]

  That's my plan to reporter what happens like when someone is filling in know it's cheese days when Jeff comes in [TS]

  and work and then Sally comes in for two months [TS]

  and I will pay those people in advance to ignore me as well now that I will eventually be extorted from my invisibility [TS]

  and I'll be happy to pay it he let this weird eccentric billionaire that paper like look he gives you lots of money [TS]

  but you mustn't look at him her frank sounds great if I become that eccentric billionaire I will be a very happy man. [TS]