The Talk Show

11: We’re Going to Get You Some Jeans Today, Jimmy, with John Moltz


00:00:00   speaking of streaks that I gotta I gotta

00:00:02   run this by it streaks nine-game hitting

00:00:04   streak for Ichiro Suzuki now he used to

00:00:09   play for a different team just stop just

00:00:13   stop already

00:00:15   now i have I already is already have as

00:00:17   much as I can take

00:00:18   I have a question for you I really do

00:00:20   this is Hank into baseball not you know

00:00:24   we used to go because we have a minor

00:00:26   league team right here in tacoma that's

00:00:28   the the rainiers which is the Mariners

00:00:30   form team and we go to those games

00:00:33   frequently when he was little and we get

00:00:37   beyond seats up another you know top of

00:00:40   the top of the road he would just run

00:00:41   around and occasionally watch the

00:00:42   baseball game but then they do fun stuff

00:00:44   like you know you get to run with the

00:00:46   mascot that's right so you go out in the

00:00:48   field you run around with the mascot on

00:00:50   and we got wasted those but we took him

00:00:54   to one mariners game when he got a

00:00:55   little bit older and it was just it was

00:00:57   we wanted to stay for the whole thing

00:00:59   and it was too long and they were

00:01:00   supposed to do that thing where you

00:01:03   don't take him for the number of endings

00:01:05   that they are old in years and we didn't

00:01:08   do that so anyway he he didn't have a

00:01:10   great time at that and then you know I

00:01:13   figured what's the point of pan and

00:01:16   secure also it's not a huge

00:01:18   disappointment to him that that Ichiro

00:01:20   as is gone to the Yankees know and he

00:01:23   and as a matter of fact you'll love this

00:01:24   he is a contrary and so so anytime we

00:01:27   bring up bring up the mariners he sees

00:01:30   in a sense that he wants the mirrors to

00:01:32   lose and and he is divined that ma the

00:01:36   family enemies is the Yankees and so he

00:01:39   he now says to me once the Yankees 2

00:01:41   I like that kid yeah I know I know you

00:01:44   like that and and and then a friend i

00:01:47   have been a badly mismanaged this

00:01:49   because originally i said that you know

00:01:51   I loudly proclaimed that he would be you

00:01:55   know out on the street if he became a

00:01:56   Yankee fan and it of course you know

00:01:58   immediately became a Yankee fan you know

00:02:00   but you know and he's not watching you

00:02:02   know he doesn't want any of it so it's

00:02:04   just it's just to try and raise our iron

00:02:06   which is very good at anyway I'm I'm

00:02:10   happy free throw

00:02:11   yeah because I mean you know I want them

00:02:13   to

00:02:13   you know I mean he you know he got stuck

00:02:16   with a bad deal

00:02:17   yeah and they have Mariners you know

00:02:19   it's a weird team they're always there

00:02:20   always seemed to be up-and-coming but

00:02:22   but never never get it

00:02:24   yeah we had a good run way to get run

00:02:27   for a while and then and now you guys

00:02:29   are stuck in in what it used to be the

00:02:32   AL East it was the toughest division now

00:02:33   it looks like they are west is the

00:02:35   toughest division you got three teams

00:02:36   fighting for playoffs

00:02:39   yeah yeah but not the 14 not the 14 not

00:02:42   the one that I happen to follow

00:02:45   how's the very nice website going good

00:02:48   yeah I'm having fun which is really what

00:02:51   it's all about people got right so

00:02:53   that's all that's all you're in it for

00:02:55   right that's it I'm just in it for the

00:02:56   fun right

00:02:58   do you wanna do you want to talk about

00:03:00   Skyfall a little bit i could talk a

00:03:03   little bit about that I wants a new

00:03:05   trailers

00:03:06   yeah I was um I was married to the new

00:03:09   trailer earlier and a very pretty school

00:03:11   tasteful ceremony not because i love it

00:03:14   looks it looks great i am super super

00:03:18   excited about it because I don't know

00:03:20   how you cannot be I feel like the whole

00:03:21   reboot of the franchise has been good so

00:03:23   far and and ever since I found out about

00:03:26   the backstory behind quantum of solace

00:03:30   which was a letdown after but you know

00:03:32   that you know why it was bad

00:03:34   yeah because it was right but they it

00:03:36   when it was like one of the movies that

00:03:38   was like absolutely at the worst point

00:03:40   for the writers strike because they had

00:03:43   gotten to the point where production had

00:03:45   to start like financially like they've

00:03:47   you know paid all of this cast and crew

00:03:50   and they had locations and it was like

00:03:53   you know like they've passed the point

00:03:55   of no return on shooting but they didn't

00:03:58   really have the script done yet

00:03:59   and then there's a writer's strike and

00:04:01   then they just like made stuff up and i

00:04:05   imagine it I i read something about that

00:04:08   and I can't remember who was the person

00:04:10   who was talking about that problem but

00:04:11   it wasn't actually it was Daniel Craig

00:04:13   actually writing some of yeah they said

00:04:15   that Daniel Craig and the director has

00:04:16   sort of wrote some stuff and in higher

00:04:18   given that

00:04:19   it's actually pretty good yeah I mean

00:04:23   you know when you think okay maybe just

00:04:26   stop doing it but they can't stop doing

00:04:28   now

00:04:29   no it was like any obligations and they

00:04:31   have yeah well aight and i think the

00:04:33   lesson to be learned on that is that

00:04:35   your route you know and I'm sure that if

00:04:37   I got started making a movie yeah you

00:04:40   know what I'd probably put off

00:04:41   finalizing this I'd procrastinate on the

00:04:43   writing or whatever but it's like you

00:04:44   really should have liked the script down

00:04:46   before you you get the idea but they

00:04:49   never do

00:04:50   right i mean you don't want you know who

00:04:51   nobody ever count on a writer strike but

00:04:53   I remember something something to be

00:04:56   said about that but anyway i'm super

00:04:57   excited about it because it's got a

00:04:59   great that's the other thing is that

00:05:00   first James Bond movie i can remember

00:05:01   with like a name brand director at the

00:05:04   helm at least in my lifetime are our

00:05:08   good friend Sam Sam end its mendez

00:05:12   mendis that's a good question we were

00:05:16   notorious for mispronouncing I am are

00:05:20   only 2 i've only just gotten started the

00:05:22   second sentence on this episode but of

00:05:26   American Beauty fame

00:05:27   yeah yeah i think it's going to be a

00:05:31   great movie did the same guy diehl the

00:05:34   previous to know now I forget who

00:05:38   directed the previous two and martin

00:05:41   campbell directed the one the guy who

00:05:44   did goldeneye I was that was set on

00:05:51   owning now you now I gotta look it up

00:05:53   yeah let's see here Marc Forster

00:05:58   director quantum of solace solace solace

00:06:03   yeah solace solace and Martin Kamel AMR

00:06:12   kmo get directed casino royale and

00:06:13   martin campbell did goldeneye which i

00:06:15   think is probably one of the better

00:06:18   what's that guy's name Pierce process

00:06:22   one

00:06:23   yeah it kinda happened i'm actually

00:06:24   speaking of Hank I'm actually trying to

00:06:26   figure out what's a good place to start

00:06:28   him on bond

00:06:30   because he hasn't seen heat we actually

00:06:32   watched a little bit of casino royale he

00:06:34   should have some of them the fun or

00:06:36   fight scenes and he really liked that a

00:06:39   lot

00:06:39   so and I think in pierce brosnan or even

00:06:43   perform Timothy Dalton lemonade on table

00:06:50   hey Dalton right either there i was

00:06:54   thinking either their first movies Jones

00:06:56   index we're getting a place like art the

00:06:58   think the second Timothy Dalton 11 which

00:07:01   almost like oh really

00:07:02   almost put the franchise into the ground

00:07:04   right and i think it's terrible I've I

00:07:06   you know my comment you know when I

00:07:09   talked about it on there with with the

00:07:11   with our old friend and Benjamin was it

00:07:13   just looks like it looks like an epic

00:07:14   production quality wise look like an

00:07:16   episode of the a-team right and which is

00:07:19   not good

00:07:19   the Jonas he looks like the legislature

00:07:22   is too old at that point yeah but Jonas

00:07:24   really liked it because it had it was

00:07:26   kinda high on that the cockamamie action

00:07:28   like yeah you know the one thing I had

00:07:30   going for it was you know you didn't

00:07:32   have to wait too long before the bullets

00:07:34   are flying around and he hasn't seen

00:07:39   them the recent ones that right

00:07:41   no and I don't there are still there's a

00:07:44   little this little yeah I don't even

00:07:46   know i'm not even sure why not because I

00:07:48   think they're pg-13 right they're not

00:07:49   are they are they are pg-13 but that

00:07:51   torture scene

00:07:52   oh yeah that's pretty casino royale

00:07:54   as'll a little rough here it's a little

00:07:57   rough

00:07:58   speaking of bad movies about the about

00:08:01   the these new Apple ads that have

00:08:03   everybody very upset

00:08:07   I mean so they like the one so they

00:08:11   unveiled three new ads and I i guess

00:08:13   that the idea the other thing that ties

00:08:15   them together is there about it at the

00:08:17   Genius apple genius and it's this kid

00:08:20   there's like they've got one guy who's

00:08:22   like you know he's now like the the

00:08:24   prototypical apples genius huh

00:08:28   I I i like the one I think the one is

00:08:31   okay I think the one is bad i think that

00:08:35   the one where the guy buys the the the

00:08:38   other computer yeah I think that's

00:08:40   actually pretty good at you think that's

00:08:42   the good one I do I think that's the

00:08:43   real and which one do you think because

00:08:45   i like i like the one in the airplane

00:08:46   that's the one I think is ok i like the

00:08:49   main one that's that's made a and then I

00:08:51   could I don't know I think they're both

00:08:53   ok I think they're both not bad at all i

00:08:55   don't and only the worthy of creating

00:08:56   the one with the the guy whose wife is

00:08:58   having a baby

00:08:59   this is a pretty bad yes that's a bad

00:09:02   one

00:09:02   it's just that again we mean yes you

00:09:06   said and I think I said the same thing

00:09:09   they're not for us right so what we

00:09:12   think of them is really kind of

00:09:13   irrelevant and I know that can Siegel

00:09:17   who has made some hay by puppy Yves in

00:09:21   the ad industry had worked on Apple's ad

00:09:22   campaigns a decade ago has published a

00:09:25   little self-published a book about what

00:09:27   it was like working with steve jobs and

00:09:28   apple on these ads he was pretty pretty

00:09:31   hard on him and in his and I think the

00:09:34   fundamental part of his argument is ok

00:09:37   so these ads aren't for your typical

00:09:39   aren't for existing users there for new

00:09:41   users but ideally a great ad would work

00:09:44   for both that it would appeal to the new

00:09:46   group and not anger people the way that

00:09:49   these ads of angry people and I think

00:09:51   there's definitely some truth to that if

00:09:52   they were truly great ads sure everybody

00:09:55   would agree they're good ads but i don't

00:09:57   really get the the consternation that

00:10:00   these at cost

00:10:02   yeah i was a little bit surprised that

00:10:04   some people seem to be family opposed to

00:10:08   right and I'm not singing their praises

00:10:09   I don't think I mean I think that best

00:10:11   my my take on them is roughly a

00:10:13   ambivalent but I got a lot of it i got

00:10:17   at most most in a long time

00:10:20   accusations of it

00:10:21   no this is proof that John groupers in

00:10:23   the bag for Apple he even he can't

00:10:25   criticize these awful awful ads but i

00:10:28   cannot get it you know i mean like i

00:10:30   don't know what they want from the I I

00:10:32   mean I my support just because I'm

00:10:33   ambivalent should i turn the dial up to

00:10:35   11 and and rip them apart i don't

00:10:37   understand that mean I'd have given my

00:10:39   honest take on them

00:10:40   what's interesting is that nobody see we

00:10:42   did not have this reaction to the

00:10:43   celebrity ads know and I don't I wonder

00:10:46   why that is

00:10:48   they're not really any better and I mean

00:10:51   there are better i don't know AI think i

00:10:54   think that by me personally i like the

00:10:55   Mayday add more than any of the

00:10:56   celebrity ads yeah I don't know the

00:10:59   Mayday one isn't bad i don't know that

00:11:02   both not been there just aren't great

00:11:04   I don't know right right but i think

00:11:05   another but neither the celebrity ones

00:11:07   and nobody seemed to really pay

00:11:09   attention to those it was when they

00:11:11   started using the genius that suddenly

00:11:15   and the one thing that underscores all

00:11:17   this and I do think it would be

00:11:19   different the thing that I think the x

00:11:21   factor is that Steve Jobs's is dead and

00:11:24   has been in the ground for a while now

00:11:26   whereas if he had you know stay ahead of

00:11:30   the cancer for another year and we're

00:11:31   still alive today I don't any and they

00:11:34   released the exact same ads I don't

00:11:37   think the criticism would have been

00:11:38   anywhere near what we've seen I think

00:11:42   it's all driven by this see the

00:11:44   company's going downhill flying off a

00:11:47   cliff because steve jobs is dead

00:11:49   yeah and the timing I guess after after

00:11:52   the hugely disappointing quarterly

00:11:53   results us could take out that then you

00:11:59   i think it was you had a good take on

00:12:01   that that it's the headlines were so bad

00:12:05   on the choreography salts because it's

00:12:07   all about Apple's miss that they had to

00:12:09   miss they missed they had a missed first

00:12:11   Miss rare mr. Apple and nobody explains

00:12:14   what it is exactly they're missing right

00:12:16   that the what it is they're missing is

00:12:18   you explain this

00:12:22   they're just missing what the Wall

00:12:24   Street analysts think they were going to

00:12:25   report right that I mean it's there it's

00:12:28   the wall street analyst estimates and

00:12:31   it's like an average of the wall street

00:12:33   analysts estimates

00:12:34   and what they were going to report right

00:12:35   so every quarter i guess every company

00:12:37   does this where the company's says

00:12:39   here's what we hear is our results and

00:12:40   here's what we think we're going to do

00:12:42   in the coming quarter and apple exceeded

00:12:45   its own estimates which are of course

00:12:48   famously low

00:12:49   I mean but it's smart that they always

00:12:51   pick Apple publishes estimates for the

00:12:54   coming quarter that are like we know

00:12:56   this thing we know we can be we can hit

00:12:58   right and then you never know I mean

00:13:00   something get anywhere they could get a

00:13:01   better surprise a bad surprise in the

00:13:03   middle of the quarter and right i mean

00:13:05   that's why they do that right and then

00:13:07   the the analysts look at apple's numbers

00:13:10   and pick numbers higher than that and

00:13:12   say this is what we you know this is

00:13:14   where think we're really going to do and

00:13:15   for four quarters and quarters and

00:13:17   quarters Apple kept beating those

00:13:19   estimates but they're just guesses

00:13:20   they're just guesses from these guys and

00:13:22   some of these guys we all know are very

00:13:24   very dump

00:13:26   I mean they say they're on the record

00:13:28   you could look at my website your web

00:13:29   site you a lot of these guys I for years

00:13:32   and years have a track record of saying

00:13:34   some really really dumb things about

00:13:36   Apple these guys are not that smart some

00:13:38   of them are some of them are very smart

00:13:39   but some of them are not that smart and

00:13:42   they just average them together and

00:13:44   apples numbers that they released a

00:13:45   little bit under what's what these guys

00:13:47   were saying especially on the i think

00:13:49   was the iphone sales in particular

00:13:51   even though they sold 26 million of them

00:13:54   and bottom line they still made like the

00:13:57   most profit and revenue that they've

00:14:00   ever made in a q3 in the company's

00:14:03   history the only top their revenue

00:14:06   estimate by a billion dollars making

00:14:09   some revenue and was whether the revenue

00:14:11   profit can't remember now just a billion

00:14:14   i will say though that the that the

00:14:17   stockton it didn't seem like investors

00:14:19   actually panicked or you know went by

00:14:22   the headlines like yeah i think this i

00:14:25   think the stock dropped the next day but

00:14:27   it dropped by less than the S&P 500 they

00:14:30   actually beat the market the next day I

00:14:33   think you could problem in i think if

00:14:34   you wanted to make money on that you'd

00:14:36   have to do it had to do it in

00:14:38   after-hours trading because it did seem

00:14:40   like after hours and it took a hit and a

00:14:43   course did you know dryly noted as he

00:14:46   often does

00:14:47   that the stock went back to where it was

00:14:50   at levels not seen since jun 29 and I

00:14:59   don't know what Apple has to do with an

00:15:00   ad to make people happy now at this

00:15:02   point I feel like they could do anything

00:15:04   and then people are going to say these

00:15:06   ads think yeah and also i guess i think

00:15:12   i did the the iconic I I mean the thing

00:15:15   that I thought maybe they could have

00:15:16   done better was I didn't know that I

00:15:17   didn't seem to me like picking a genius

00:15:18   was necessarily the right thing to go

00:15:21   with from a sort of iconic corporate

00:15:23   person

00:15:23   no they don't have nooooo i think i

00:15:26   think part of it too is that they wanted

00:15:27   to have some new ads for the Olympics

00:15:29   they don't have new products to announce

00:15:33   yet

00:15:33   yeah I and what did they have that

00:15:37   nobody else has and they've got that's

00:15:40   the apple retail stores

00:15:41   yeah I but I don't even know I don't

00:15:43   think they can't shoot one in an apple

00:15:46   store because that's the I don't know

00:15:47   there's no concept there to have you how

00:15:49   do you pitch the apple stores to people

00:15:52   without showing apple stores are doing

00:15:54   just look out nice our stores look you

00:15:58   know so I think you need a little spooky

00:16:00   story like this i'm not sure that the

00:16:03   premise is that much sillier or worse

00:16:05   than the imac i'm a pc thing that ran

00:16:08   for years

00:16:09   well I just thought that you know as the

00:16:13   face of your company

00:16:14   the two previous big ad campaigns had

00:16:18   the mac itself and then private prior to

00:16:21   that it was Mac users like you right and

00:16:24   then now we're now it's the guy who

00:16:27   helps you with your mac which you know i

00:16:31   think it you know it it says to

00:16:34   potential buyers don't worry about it we

00:16:37   got this guy he can help you out right

00:16:42   I really you know and I just can't you

00:16:44   know it's just so hard to put yourself

00:16:45   in that mindset of somebody who's never

00:16:47   bought an apple computer but is thinking

00:16:50   about it now do not know anybody in here

00:16:56   is your as your families and friends

00:16:58   circle so yeah pretty much

00:17:00   so completely pretty much I had it is

00:17:06   yeah amy amy has a cousin who was with

00:17:09   her cousins have some college-age girls

00:17:11   and and one of them is going off to be a

00:17:16   freshman this year and they wanted I i

00:17:19   think that i think her older sister has

00:17:21   a macbook to though i'm not sure but i

00:17:23   know i know that they used to you know

00:17:25   they used by pcs and that she's getting

00:17:27   a macbook pro two to take the college

00:17:29   and they wanted to know doesn't come

00:17:32   with Wi-Fi and what's up

00:17:36   I you know and that was like the only

00:17:37   question and and then it I you know and

00:17:40   I'm not making fun of my they don't know

00:17:42   yeah i mean i was i there like a serious

00:17:44   question they had like hey this thing

00:17:45   comes with regular Wi-Fi right and it's

00:17:47   like oh yeah definitely

00:17:47   you cannot buy you can't get it without

00:17:49   the Wi-Fi I mean it's you're all set

00:17:51   and did they need like a base station or

00:17:55   something right as i guess it could be

00:17:56   confusing as Apple brands and airport I

00:17:58   mean maybe

00:17:59   yeah they don't know maybe you think

00:18:00   it's something else now I don't think

00:18:02   they do that anymore i think that like

00:18:03   when you go up to the menu and mountains

00:18:05   stations the base stations are but yeah

00:18:07   probably not the yeah I know I just say

00:18:10   yes as Wi-Fi right I'm but now i don't

00:18:15   really have anybody in that mindset but

00:18:17   I guess I you know I guess I know people

00:18:19   like that i guess one of the other dads

00:18:21   who is coaching little league with me

00:18:22   this year is you know it's so hard like

00:18:26   what do you do what did you know and

00:18:27   trying to explain people that is I do

00:18:30   and and you know I guess he googled me

00:18:33   then you know because any seem like he

00:18:35   de he kind of had an idea of what I did

00:18:37   and it was not on any kind of gave me

00:18:39   that you know i'm thinking about getting

00:18:40   getting getting rid of all my crap and

00:18:42   just getting some apple stuff like that

00:18:44   like an android phone and so he did in

00:18:46   fact switch to a iphone during the

00:18:48   season but I think he's going to switch

00:18:50   to a mac to also my account my account

00:18:55   no that's right i've talked about this

00:18:57   my count yeah 3 Dell laptops on this

00:18:59   desk and he hits the ball and says that

00:19:02   that that it takes like 90 seconds after

00:19:05   he opens the lid for the for them to let

00:19:07   him live

00:19:07   in the windows and stuff he has an ipad

00:19:10   now and I think he's you know he loves

00:19:12   it so much that i wouldn't be surprised

00:19:14   if he's he's got macbook probably three

00:19:16   macbooks by next year

00:19:18   yeah Karen's parents still use is her

00:19:20   dad as as a I think it's HP has an older

00:19:25   HP and we left we gave him an ipad we're

00:19:28   back visiting a few weeks back

00:19:31   so I'm trying to I can't emphasize

00:19:34   enough for my account how important the

00:19:35   wake from sleep thing is and I always

00:19:38   not in its you know I'm sure it's one of

00:19:39   those things where if you buy a

00:19:40   brand-new windows laptop brand new

00:19:42   taking home that it wakes from sleep

00:19:44   pretty fast and falls asleep pretty fast

00:19:46   forever but I think it's just one of

00:19:48   those things where I get the impression

00:19:49   from him that you know that Windows is

00:19:51   still windows in that three or four

00:19:53   months after you and the thing that

00:19:54   doesn't it doesn't wake up so fast i get

00:19:56   the same impression from my

00:19:57   father-in-law to know they're just just

00:20:00   over time it just starts to grading and

00:20:03   right it's like Windows is always sort

00:20:06   of been like that like it's it's like

00:20:07   fruit and I think I think I mean that

00:20:10   used to happen with my mac too because I

00:20:12   used to be much more loose about what I

00:20:14   would install and I think I'm more

00:20:18   careful now about making sure that I

00:20:21   don't get a whole bunch of startup items

00:20:22   right yeah and it seems every time I

00:20:25   printer of course the printer soft the

00:20:27   other somehow end up with a some startup

00:20:31   item for the printer which just just

00:20:33   drives me nuts

00:20:35   best thing I ever had one of the best

00:20:37   things that they ever did was the way

00:20:38   they've changed printing with iOS where

00:20:40   your did you are just you the printer

00:20:42   maker are not allowed to install

00:20:43   anything on this device you've just

00:20:45   here's the protocol we support if you

00:20:47   want to be able to if you want people to

00:20:48   be able to print from their iPads to

00:20:50   your printer

00:20:51   it's all on your side yeah you know so

00:20:53   that was it that was a big that was a

00:20:55   big complaint when the ipad came as

00:20:56   people say oh I can't print I was like

00:20:58   man if Apple could kill printing Apple

00:21:00   could just shoot printing in the back of

00:21:01   the head that would be the best thing

00:21:03   you could ever do well in the problem

00:21:05   isn't it's not printing per se it's that

00:21:07   you've always had to install the general

00:21:09   yeah that's always to get a new it's

00:21:12   always a miserable experience right i

00:21:16   remember to in the old days of

00:21:18   installing mac OS 10

00:21:20   when it's I don't even know maybe the

00:21:23   options are still there but it seems

00:21:24   like now with the the lion and mountain

00:21:26   lion you just downloaded from the App

00:21:28   Store you you click a button get your

00:21:30   password you walk away for an hour and

00:21:32   your upgraded and you don't make any

00:21:34   choices you know you don't just know

00:21:36   there's nothing there's like a button is

00:21:38   just one button install but it used to

00:21:40   be that you go through and like check

00:21:41   some stuff you know you'd be like you

00:21:44   want these and other languages and it's

00:21:45   like not you know i mean i just looked

00:21:47   like an alien

00:21:48   you know mainland China I don't need

00:21:51   that stuff so i'll save some megabytes

00:21:53   there and it used to be that you would

00:21:55   show you how big the printer drivers

00:21:56   were and it was like it was like a

00:21:58   gigabyte it was like yeah it would be

00:22:00   like HP printer drivers and it would be

00:22:01   like eight hundred megabytes yeah and

00:22:03   then printer drivers and it's like well

00:22:05   I you know I don't have a canon printer

00:22:08   but maybe someday I'm going to have this

00:22:09   macbook in a room and there's going to

00:22:11   be one and maybe I guess I should

00:22:12   install it i don't know but there were

00:22:13   huge

00:22:14   yeah absolute value

00:22:18   yeah that's a good point in the middle

00:22:20   look at that stuff when i upgraded to

00:22:23   know I don't think they like anywhere

00:22:24   and maybe that's true so after it moving

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00:22:57   website you go to flickr.com you can see

00:22:59   the dogs talking about Fleck so lets you

00:23:02   take they call them cinemagraphs and

00:23:04   they didn't invent this they admit it's

00:23:05   that its new york fashion photographers

00:23:08   kevin burg and Jamie backhoe invented

00:23:10   these things cinemagraph sort of like a

00:23:11   cross between a photograph in an

00:23:14   animated gif you know and the idea is I

00:23:18   don't have a picture without saying

00:23:19   Instagram but it's like you know it's

00:23:21   like an Instagram type thing except

00:23:22   there's motion involved and instead of

00:23:24   really shooting a movie the ideal is

00:23:27   that it's mostly a still photograph but

00:23:29   a little bit of motion

00:23:31   you know maybe it's a waving tree in the

00:23:32   back

00:23:33   and one of the examples they have is a

00:23:35   very funny picture of a dog where the

00:23:37   dog is sort of panting and it's looped

00:23:39   animation so it just seems like this dog

00:23:41   is just sitting there panting that poor

00:23:44   dog needs a drink of water needs a drink

00:23:45   of water and he's never gonna get it

00:23:47   it's you take two little two seconds

00:23:50   scenes and then you paint with your

00:23:52   finger the part of it that you want to

00:23:54   animate and the other part will stay

00:23:56   completely static so you get this you

00:23:58   can get this real neat effect where the

00:24:01   whole thing looks completely static

00:24:03   accept this little bit of motion in the

00:24:05   corner it's kind of a real trick I've

00:24:07   been playing with it and it's kind of

00:24:08   tricky to get a good to second thing

00:24:10   it's a challenge though i really like it

00:24:12   it's got the stuff the filters you can

00:24:14   make it all look old-timey or black and

00:24:16   white stuff like that it's a lot of fun

00:24:18   i think if you have anything because

00:24:23   I've done this with my dog

00:24:24   I have a cut i mean i'm on my tumblr

00:24:26   just I've got a media a few animated

00:24:28   gifs of the of the dog if you have a pet

00:24:32   and and maybe a kid but i think it's a

00:24:35   it's gonna be fun

00:24:37   I it you know the other thing reminds me

00:24:39   of our I don't even know if they have a

00:24:41   name for him but in the harry potter and

00:24:43   the newspapers the way the flow rates in

00:24:44   the newspaper have a bit of animation to

00:24:46   them you know that it's not just a

00:24:48   static image it's that sort of thing I

00:24:50   and it is kinda mess but they say its

00:24:52   memory mesmerizing it kind of is if you

00:24:55   get a good one it's really really fun

00:24:56   it's a free app free app on the App

00:24:59   Store for the iphone i go to flickr.com

00:25:02   and you can find out more they got a

00:25:05   link to the app store but it's free so I

00:25:08   can't even imagine why everybody

00:25:10   listening wouldn't give it a shot

00:25:11   it's definitely a lot of fun to play

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00:25:50   people are really supposed to be buying

00:25:51   everything not absolutely yeah yeah

00:25:54   that's why I mean right to collect you

00:25:55   want to collect the whole set you do you

00:25:58   do it you don't want to be left behind

00:25:59   you want to be the guy who missed the

00:26:00   one thing and it's easier it is so much

00:26:03   easier when the app is free

00:26:05   yeah well yeah because you didn't have

00:26:07   to pay tax on that at least not in

00:26:12   Pennsylvania sure you have do you have

00:26:14   states hilton sales oh yeah we gotta

00:26:15   think it's six-and-a-half percent which

00:26:17   sucks i mean i mean just ours is eat or

00:26:20   something it between 8-9 or something

00:26:22   like that I just feel bad for the kids

00:26:24   because I remember when I was in grade

00:26:25   school we had to compute the sales tax

00:26:27   and when I was a kid it was six percent

00:26:29   in which which is the math just doesn't

00:26:31   that good and like why not like five

00:26:33   percent would be a lot easier but

00:26:35   six-and-a-half percent i had that's like

00:26:36   a lot of carrying numbers and I that

00:26:38   just makes me feel bad for the kids to

00:26:39   go to pieces and then the other thing

00:26:43   with six and a half percent you end up

00:26:45   with the IAE got like little Danny and a

00:26:48   half a penny ha'penny you know when's

00:26:50   the last time you saw a penny

00:26:51   yeah don't even get me started on the

00:26:54   pendants heart ya already carry that

00:26:55   stuff around what we got we got we got

00:26:59   Apple v samsung going to going to court

00:27:01   he wearing your suit i am wearing my

00:27:03   suit because we're doing legal analysis

00:27:05   here right and and and by far away it

00:27:10   seems you know a lot of this is you know

00:27:12   the basic story is exactly what you

00:27:13   think apples cases hey these guys ripped

00:27:16   us off and Samsung's case is there's

00:27:20   nothing to rip off its just a black

00:27:22   rectangle and other people had touch

00:27:26   screens so how can we rip them off but I

00:27:31   get the impression reading out of the

00:27:32   coverage so far and we're recording on

00:27:35   Thursday August to that they went to

00:27:37   court I think starting on Monday couple

00:27:39   days ago I get the feeling though that

00:27:42   that Samsung doesn't think this is going

00:27:44   very well for them

00:27:45   yeah I can't tell if it's that

00:27:48   necessarily or if they're just you know

00:27:51   laying the groundwork it's so hard to

00:27:53   tell with this stuff but it because

00:27:54   there's so many it's such a 12

00:27:56   dimensional chess that they are

00:27:58   are just laying the groundwork for an

00:28:00   appeal in case they need to make an

00:28:02   appeal right that but that it makes it

00:28:05   seem though that it's that they're

00:28:07   already thinking they're going to need

00:28:08   to appeal this and so there because they

00:28:11   end the the unusual story is that they

00:28:13   really seem to have anger deliberately

00:28:16   angered the judge where they just

00:28:18   doesn't seem like a good idea

00:28:19   no it really so now yeah if you're

00:28:21   losing the ball game already

00:28:23   you know make you might as well just go

00:28:24   out there and kick dirt on the Empire

00:28:26   and get thrown out because you're losing

00:28:27   right but you don't want to do at the

00:28:29   before the game starts to you know start

00:28:32   complaining to the ump and be like you

00:28:33   know you know you in general you're

00:28:35   pretty crummy Empire before the game

00:28:38   starts you know i mean it just doesn't

00:28:39   seem like you're gonna get a lot of the

00:28:40   it's going to help your help your case

00:28:44   but they wanted to admit some evidence

00:28:48   at the last minute and apples objection

00:28:52   to this which i think is right you know

00:28:54   it seems to me I mean you know what I'm

00:28:56   not really a lawyer I just play one here

00:28:58   on a podcast but the idea was that it

00:29:00   was after the deadline that there's a

00:29:01   deadline for what they call that

00:29:03   discovery whatever the hell they call

00:29:05   yeah there's a deadline where they say

00:29:06   look whenever you want to use as

00:29:08   evidence in the case you have to submit

00:29:09   by this date so that the other side can

00:29:12   take a look at it and prepare a response

00:29:13   or an objection etc which seems fair

00:29:18   you want you know you can't just pull

00:29:20   stuff out of your pocket at the you know

00:29:21   understand and surprise the other side

00:29:24   everybody gets a chance to prepare and

00:29:26   see the other guys evidence before the

00:29:27   case starts in samsung like a day or two

00:29:29   before the trial started said hey we

00:29:31   want to add this stuff Apple is like

00:29:33   what that passed the date and doesn't

00:29:36   really seem like good evidence anyway

00:29:38   right it's this f700 phone that they

00:29:42   made in 2006 that wasn't even a

00:29:45   smartphone and it had a quality pullout

00:29:48   slider it was like twice as thick as an

00:29:50   iphone but if you look at it

00:29:52   top-down you know it it kind of looks

00:29:55   like as a touchscreen smartphone black

00:29:58   when you know if you don't turn it on

00:30:00   and look at it straight down and squint

00:30:03   your eyes and take take your glasses off

00:30:06   it kind of maybe looks a little sort of

00:30:08   like a modern smartphone

00:30:11   it's all sort of look like iphones

00:30:13   wasn't this the one that didn't come out

00:30:16   until wasn't announced until after no it

00:30:19   didn't come out until after and sometime

00:30:21   in 2007 after the ionic been announced

00:30:23   but it really you know and I think nilay

00:30:25   patel at the verge had a story about it

00:30:26   that I link to this week from a year ago

00:30:29   I because Samsung had already been

00:30:32   talking up this phone because it

00:30:33   predated the iphone at least internally

00:30:35   but that it was really nothing once you

00:30:37   really looked at the phone it was

00:30:38   nothing like an iphone or even like a

00:30:40   modern samsung smartphone it wasn't even

00:30:42   a smartphone there were no apps and it

00:30:45   didn't you know the screen that they

00:30:48   show which sort of looks like an array

00:30:50   of icons in a grid which you think wow

00:30:53   that's sort of like an iphone that

00:30:54   wasn't even the home screen that was

00:30:55   just like the settings at the home

00:30:58   screen was more like a menu

00:31:00   yeah yeah like and you know like that

00:31:02   weird like a desktop like thing like

00:31:04   Windows Phone used to have

00:31:06   oh yeah i think was oh I might even been

00:31:08   a Windows Phone device I don't know but

00:31:10   it would look at you know it was nothing

00:31:11   like an iphone and what was the other

00:31:14   thing we wanted to get submitted they

00:31:15   wanted to get this goofy story about

00:31:16   Apple copying sony not because they had

00:31:22   an actual sony device or phone that

00:31:24   looked anything at all like an iPhone

00:31:26   from before the iphone but because

00:31:28   because a Business Week story that

00:31:31   interviewed two designers from Sony

00:31:34   about a new Walkman in two thousand six

00:31:36   or so and and their question was how

00:31:40   much was this thing inspired by the ipod

00:31:42   and the sony guys said something about

00:31:45   rounded corner we like rounded corners

00:31:48   and as few buttons as possible

00:31:50   that's all they said that was their

00:31:51   comment and then internally an apple

00:31:53   somebody simple what you know let's

00:31:55   let's just as an exercise what would a

00:31:57   sony device that adhere to those broad

00:32:00   descriptions look like and an apple in

00:32:04   house made their own sort of what was

00:32:06   Sony device like this look like just

00:32:09   based on the sony aesthetic right based

00:32:11   on the sony aesthetic and you know it

00:32:13   looks like an iphone 4 and he's a couple

00:32:18   of buttons there are a couple of buttons

00:32:20   down at the bottom of the switches

00:32:21   almost and they look just like the

00:32:23   original

00:32:24   and on the very first Walkman right yeah

00:32:27   definitely yeah i think it was all a lie

00:32:30   kamoj to the like 1979 Walkman it

00:32:34   doesn't really seem to help

00:32:35   Samsung's case at all really other than

00:32:37   this broad description of what round

00:32:39   corners and few buttons very strange but

00:32:44   anyway what what the thing that really

00:32:46   this really gets crazy though is that

00:32:47   the judge said no you cannot admit any

00:32:49   of this and so at the end of the day

00:32:51   like day one of the trial samsung PR

00:32:53   took all the slides that they weren't

00:32:55   allowed to put in in front of the jury

00:32:58   release them to the press and in a

00:33:00   statement said that they hope the jury

00:33:02   gets to see them through the press and

00:33:08   what they said they said that it would

00:33:10   be unfair if the jury did not get to see

00:33:12   ya so there's a little place that has a

00:33:14   little bit of a hedging in there but the

00:33:16   implication release clearly seem to be

00:33:18   that we hope the jury sees you know we

00:33:21   weren't allowed to show it to you in

00:33:22   court but we really hope the jury sees

00:33:23   this when they go home and read

00:33:24   techcrunch it is a silicon valley jury

00:33:30   yeah yeah I saw that I saw that in the

00:33:32   delay in the jury selection that there

00:33:34   were a whole bunch of that was yeah that

00:33:37   was pretty funny

00:33:38   I mean they had apple an apple people in

00:33:40   Google people of course in the jury pool

00:33:43   right i also saw that they were asking

00:33:46   them to prospective jurors did a

00:33:49   familiar with patents do they know

00:33:50   anything and there was one guy who has

00:33:52   like it's like 850 patents to it because

00:33:56   it works I don't worry works maybe like

00:33:57   HP or something like that but he's his

00:33:59   name is on like a hundred patents wonder

00:34:03   if they picked them i doubt it like most

00:34:05   of the time they usually try to pick

00:34:06   people who don't know but maybe in

00:34:07   Silicon Valley there's no way around it

00:34:11   might be hard

00:34:12   yeah but anyway that the judge did not

00:34:16   seem happy with with that telephone

00:34:19   Samsung's part well I think it's odd

00:34:21   that they brought that up after

00:34:22   discovery

00:34:24   yeah it seems like the of it sounds like

00:34:27   they already knew about it beforehand

00:34:29   right because they were talking about

00:34:30   last year and and maybe they maybe this

00:34:35   is another attack

00:34:37   dick to to try and cast doubt on the

00:34:41   proceedings

00:34:42   I guess sort of the sort of say okay

00:34:44   we're gonna do we're gonna bring this up

00:34:45   late will try and get in they won't let

00:34:47   us get it in and then we'll throw arms

00:34:49   up and said all things the Sham right

00:34:50   and I've already gotten some email from

00:34:52   people who are you know and you know and

00:34:55   God bless him I feel like I'm doing

00:34:56   something good that they can at least

00:34:58   and to read my site but people who are

00:35:00   on the other side of things and really

00:35:01   are sort of hoping that Apple loses this

00:35:03   case people who are you don't think it

00:35:05   has no marriage people who don't really

00:35:06   like Apple and the one guy has said that

00:35:11   this is you know he's convinced in a

00:35:13   it's just like a statement of fact that

00:35:15   the judges had it in the bag for Apple

00:35:17   all along which I really don't think has

00:35:20   been the case she's actually you know

00:35:22   she seems like she's kind of unhappy

00:35:23   with both sides that they weren't able

00:35:25   to settle right you know it seems like

00:35:26   she's pretty upset that this is even

00:35:28   gone to trial that this should have been

00:35:29   settled before you know they should have

00:35:31   been able to hash out a check that

00:35:34   Samsung could write that that seems to

00:35:35   be our biggest beef yeah I mean she's in

00:35:37   so now they're in the middle of this and

00:35:39   she's she wants it she wanted it that

00:35:42   you want to not to not get to this point

00:35:44   what did i read i just read to this one

00:35:46   thing I'd this is where I just don't get

00:35:47   it is that i read that Apple what Apple

00:35:49   want is they want like 2.8 billion

00:35:51   dollars from Samsung which is you know

00:35:54   that's a lot of money even for Apple

00:35:56   it's a lot of money to you know you

00:35:58   don't you don't just leave 2.8 billion

00:36:00   dollars in the couch cushions but it's

00:36:03   not that much money right they've got

00:36:05   like a hundred and eleven million

00:36:07   billion dollars in the bank they made

00:36:09   8.8 billion in profit profit last

00:36:12   quarter

00:36:13   I mean an extra 2.8 billion i mean

00:36:15   that's nice i mean if if let's just say

00:36:18   that that day it works out exactly how

00:36:19   apple says it they wanted to that the

00:36:22   jury rules and apples favor

00:36:24   they say give them exactly what Apple

00:36:26   wants two point eight billion dollars

00:36:27   well that's that's nice but is it worth

00:36:29   everything you're going through I'm not

00:36:31   sure I guess so you know how much time I

00:36:35   mean what other lawyers doing anyway

00:36:37   right there lawyer James lawyer during

00:36:39   everyday anyway they might as well be

00:36:42   luring 4 2.8 billion dollars in damages

00:36:45   and is it is it more the point of what

00:36:47   it's less what it's worth to apple and

00:36:49   what it's worth the samsung TV

00:36:50   as you know as Microsoft is doing with

00:36:54   android by trying to sort of killed by a

00:36:57   thousand Knicks right you know just

00:36:59   basically charge it make it cost enough

00:37:02   to produce an android phone where it's

00:37:04   no better than producing a windows right

00:37:08   and maybe it was also about steering

00:37:11   Samsung's future decisions how closely

00:37:13   they're going to try to copy out apple

00:37:15   stuff

00:37:16   yeah going forward in some of the stuff

00:37:19   the Apple presented I mean again you

00:37:20   know I I you know I tend to see stuff i

00:37:23   mean i think apples got a pretty good

00:37:24   case but uh i don't know i think that

00:37:27   the sum of the stuff that they've had in

00:37:30   Apple's evidence that's going in seems

00:37:31   really pretty damning my favorite is

00:37:34   that it's from a samsung internal the

00:37:38   investigation into why there were so

00:37:41   many returns of galaxy tabs at best buys

00:37:44   so they went to the best buy people and

00:37:47   really well one of the reasons people

00:37:48   are returning it and the mother of your

00:37:49   most frequently cited reason for why

00:37:52   people were returning the galaxy tab

00:37:54   John I they thought it was an ipad they

00:37:58   thought it was a night with the really

00:38:01   seems like it's exactly apples argument

00:38:05   all along really does that isn't related

00:38:08   Samsung's own investigation into this it

00:38:11   wasn't like Apple went there and you

00:38:14   know yet you can accuse apple of hiring

00:38:16   pollsters who go into a best buy and

00:38:18   cherry-pick people who might be confused

00:38:20   and user Samsung's own investigation

00:38:22   into what you know why people returning

00:38:24   them and what was the other the other

00:38:26   thing I thought was real damning was

00:38:27   that that the emails from google to them

00:38:30   saying hey this these things looked at

00:38:31   once like ipad you got to change this up

00:38:34   and they didn't change any of it like an

00:38:38   example apples and apples you saw that

00:38:40   HP tablet which the back of it looked

00:38:45   exactly like an iPad yeah i mean it and

00:38:48   they're not really pursuing I mean I

00:38:50   guess they're so they're pursuing some

00:38:51   other like HTC and some other

00:38:53   manufacturers are and motorola yeah hp1

00:38:59   that HP teased in an Olympic commercial

00:39:01   it's like an unannounced product but it

00:39:03   looks a lot like an iPad

00:39:04   where is that was aluminum device with

00:39:06   rounded edges and a black plastic strip

00:39:09   at the top resume rainwear the antennas

00:39:11   are yeah which I'm sure is just the

00:39:14   natural evolution of them of the devices

00:39:16   ring as a call all devices were normally

00:39:19   ended up there it's like the it's like

00:39:21   from something from like star trek into

00:39:24   the next generation where evolution on a

00:39:27   planet always ends up in a humanoid

00:39:29   Muhammad form and I just have different

00:39:33   bumping heads right exactly

00:39:36   for years these guys these guys have

00:39:40   green years

00:39:41   yeah like they're completely different

00:39:43   just an actor it's a chance that we need

00:39:47   to address an actor / the original

00:39:49   Klingon didn't even have the bumpy heads

00:39:51   the reason I just they think goatees

00:39:53   just go to you and then they what they

00:39:57   do they explain that away by saying that

00:39:58   they were like the vehicle yeah the

00:40:02   Klingons didn't want the Federation to

00:40:04   know what they really look like now is

00:40:07   that it was a disease and the only way i

00:40:09   preciate sisters that was just a disease

00:40:11   in the only way to cure the Klingon

00:40:13   population was for a time they had to

00:40:16   inject them with human DNA and so that's

00:40:19   why they look human

00:40:21   I believed I think that's the case yeah

00:40:23   sure somebody in your audience will will

00:40:27   correct me if I'm right they had goatees

00:40:30   yeah it's great

00:40:33   speaking of hundreds of billions of

00:40:37   dollars Andrew Ross Sorkin had a as blog

00:40:40   post on the new york times dealbook blog

00:40:42   with his suggested buying less for Apple

00:40:46   who should Apple acquire and i think i

00:40:49   think the bottom line is it shows just

00:40:51   how honestly I think it's just how hard

00:40:53   it is to spell a hundred to spend that

00:40:55   type of money his ideas were nuanced

00:40:57   that the dragon naturallyspeaking people

00:41:00   which makes a lot of sense to me

00:41:02   I'm actually sort of surprised that

00:41:04   Apple hasn't bought them already and

00:41:05   I'll get back to that in a second but

00:41:08   that's only one to make sense to me

00:41:10   yeah and i think their market cap is

00:41:12   around six billion so figure with a

00:41:14   premium that probably caused Apple maybe

00:41:16   like eight billion

00:41:17   others may be to buy them out on Twitter

00:41:20   steady that's not going to happen path I

00:41:24   mean what lie yeah why

00:41:26   rim and now use your in the silly zone

00:41:29   already right and andrew ross sorkin is

00:41:31   a good writer i think is a good blog

00:41:33   post it's not a bad idea for a post like

00:41:35   who could Apple by but I think once when

00:41:37   the number four is written

00:41:39   yeah I guess it's I mean you really you

00:41:42   have to know what other companies are

00:41:45   out what other smaller companies are out

00:41:47   the right i think there's a there's a

00:41:48   there's an inclination to write about

00:41:51   Apple buying somebody big right because

00:41:54   that sounds sexier and it just doesn't

00:41:58   seem like they're going to do that right

00:42:01   there there BMO is more just going out

00:42:04   and buying smaller strategic you know

00:42:07   smaller companies that have a strategic

00:42:08   asset that they need

00:42:09   yeah they buy technology i can't

00:42:11   remember the last time they bought a

00:42:13   product

00:42:14   yeah I'm I i I'm drawing a complete

00:42:16   blank on that but like they bought a

00:42:18   bunch of napping companies announced

00:42:20   famously like the one company had these

00:42:22   fancy pants 3d maps which now or they're

00:42:25   exactly like the 3d maps we have in ios6

00:42:28   so they bought technology you know they

00:42:33   bought the the system-on-a-chip guys a

00:42:35   couple years ago remember that the

00:42:38   second you company

00:42:40   yeah you know I a year or two before

00:42:43   they started making their own society on

00:42:45   the chips for iOS devices stuff like

00:42:47   that day by technology i can't see them

00:42:48   buying a product you could argue that

00:42:51   nuance you know is more of a technology

00:42:54   than a product I don't know what they

00:42:56   make from Dragon I mean it

00:42:58   they have a six billion dollar market

00:42:59   caps I'm sure they have you know revenue

00:43:01   and profit but they be buying it just

00:43:04   for the speech recognition so i guess

00:43:09   the reason I'm a little i was a little

00:43:10   surprised it didn't buy them at first is

00:43:12   that they seem like they're bet they're

00:43:13   they're complete completely that all of

00:43:17   Siri on nuances speech recognition

00:43:20   presumably because it's you know is the

00:43:23   best they could get right and i think

00:43:25   it's very good but it just seems unusual

00:43:28   me that they would put a whole feature

00:43:30   on top

00:43:30   that technology that they don't know

00:43:34   yeah and what about uh will I forget

00:43:39   what you said about square

00:43:40   well I just don't see why they wouldn't

00:43:41   build it themselves themselves that I

00:43:43   would think like is there anything what

00:43:45   would they be getting from square that

00:43:46   that would put them ahead of just doing

00:43:48   it themselves

00:43:49   I mean presumably with nuance with the

00:43:52   speech recognition the reason they're

00:43:54   not doing it themselves is it's a really

00:43:55   really hard problem that nuance has

00:43:58   already solved really well and that they

00:44:01   couldn't you know they don't have an

00:44:04   in-house means of doing what nuance does

00:44:06   better than new ones so license it

00:44:08   whereas i don't think there's anything

00:44:10   square does that Apple couldn't just do

00:44:12   on its own but on the other hand i

00:44:14   wouldn't be surprised if you found out

00:44:16   if the news came out next month that

00:44:17   apple bought square i wouldn't shock me

00:44:20   at all

00:44:20   I mean because they're very design

00:44:23   oriented company yeah i mean the goofy

00:44:28   little dingus that that you put in the

00:44:29   earphone thing that's I mean that's good

00:44:31   that that's not going to fly at Apple

00:44:33   that time but in terms of whatever

00:44:35   partnerships they've already set up and

00:44:36   retailers around the country that might

00:44:38   help

00:44:39   and then the last one is the last

00:44:41   suggestion with sprint which is just

00:44:42   like right now you're just making sure

00:44:45   you're just making things up right

00:44:46   you're just making things up because I

00:44:49   mean what it means that the swimming it

00:44:53   needed the whole story of the iphone is

00:44:55   that selling more and more as it expands

00:44:58   to more and more carriers that the ideas

00:45:00   that they're expanding more carriers if

00:45:02   apple bought sprint what do you think

00:45:03   verizon and AT&T did they would

00:45:05   immediately stops I mean I think they

00:45:06   would stop selling the iphone yeah i

00:45:08   mean the point is to make is to try and

00:45:09   make the carrier's more relevant to

00:45:12   write instead of going to the carrier

00:45:14   business right

00:45:16   I think presumably long-term I mean

00:45:18   let's say 20 years from now i don't have

00:45:20   I think everybody kind of hopes that

00:45:21   we've got some kind of wireless

00:45:23   networking that doesn't involve these

00:45:24   carriers

00:45:25   you know the one that will move on to

00:45:27   something a big new thing i would rather

00:45:30   you know I think of apples going to

00:45:32   spend ten billion dollars on wireless

00:45:33   networking it would make a lot more

00:45:35   sense to put it into some kind of

00:45:38   next-generation technology with

00:45:40   long-range and stuff like that

00:45:43   in and not by buying a you know ya phone

00:45:45   company in which case they buy some

00:45:47   small company that was starting in that

00:45:49   field right one thing he didn't suggest

00:45:53   and I'm kind of surprised because it's

00:45:55   always what comes up and in fact a lot

00:45:57   of technology companies they do this

00:45:59   microsoft has done this google really

00:46:03   hasn't been yahoo you know certainly has

00:46:05   is buying media companies right like I'm

00:46:11   surprised you didn't said suggest disney

00:46:13   as a target now when I mean don't ya i

00:46:17   guess i just i'm not saying i will never

00:46:19   get his neck but I'm now I know you're

00:46:21   going to just say look if you're gonna

00:46:23   pissed you know 10 20 billion dollars

00:46:25   away on the acquisition why not disney

00:46:28   right i mean they're even if you would

00:46:32   just ignore the fact that Steve Jobs his

00:46:34   family is the single largest shareholder

00:46:36   and that they've you know got an

00:46:38   existing relationship whatever it just

00:46:40   seems like that's what big tech

00:46:41   companies do and they have money hope

00:46:43   burning a hole in your pocket by a movie

00:46:46   studio I don't think that's I mean that

00:46:48   you know it's a terrible idea

00:46:50   that's yeah so so I'm glad he didn't

00:46:54   have it on there right

00:46:55   kodak wonder why didn't say by kodak

00:46:59   kodak yeah the patterns

00:47:01   yeah I think Kodak is one of those ones

00:47:03   that they might end up buying but it's

00:47:05   gonna be after you know it's just a

00:47:07   shell

00:47:08   yeah just it's just a bunch of patents

00:47:09   just about two pieces of paper that's so

00:47:13   sad thing about kodak you know this I i

00:47:16   might be making this up I'm not

00:47:18   wikipedians i'm doing this remember is

00:47:21   because the guy who founded the company

00:47:23   was something something eastman right

00:47:25   yeah I you know where the kodak came

00:47:28   from uh started Houston i think i used

00:47:33   to know this the way I remember is that

00:47:35   he just thought it sounded cool

00:47:36   oh really yeah but maybe I'm wrong maybe

00:47:39   i should i should wikipedia this I like

00:47:43   the sound of that down

00:47:44   it is a cool mist totally makeup yeah

00:47:47   yeah it's a cool name and just there we

00:47:49   go

00:47:50   you're checking John Eastern not see

00:47:54   wikipedia said you know Wikipedia

00:47:56   is you know if it says in wikipedia it's

00:47:58   true the letter K was a favorite of

00:48:02   Eastman's he is quoted as saying it

00:48:04   seems a strong incisive sort of letter

00:48:07   in his mom he and his mother divides the

00:48:09   name kodak with an anagram set eastman

00:48:12   said that there were three principal

00:48:14   concepts he used in creating the name

00:48:15   should be short one cannot mispronounce

00:48:18   it and it could not resemble anything

00:48:21   would be associated with anything but

00:48:23   kodak it's a great name really had yeah

00:48:26   yeah I think it's odd having a favorite

00:48:29   letter but odd for an adult to have a

00:48:32   favorite letter don't have a lot more on

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00:48:52   everybody wrote in current 60 minute or

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00:49:27   it's coming out on August ninth but

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00:49:38   out code name cherry and they've got

00:49:40   tons of new stuff in this update its

00:49:42   retina ready

00:49:43   I've looked at it on a map macbook pro

00:49:47   with retina display looks gorgeous looks

00:49:48   amazing built-in support for iCloud so

00:49:52   you know it's got the new man

00:49:54   line style iCloud documents thing they

00:49:58   have a brand-new effects browser I and

00:50:01   they've got some new built-in effects

00:50:04   that are sort of like you know Instagram

00:50:06   style filters and stuff like that you

00:50:08   can apply to your filters but as you

00:50:10   know as you would expect from a serious

00:50:12   appetite Pixelmator a lot more a little

00:50:14   bit less like trying to make it look

00:50:15   like a crumpled old photograph and more

00:50:18   just sort of artistic presets great

00:50:21   stuff for manipulating photos though

00:50:22   what else they have smart alignment

00:50:25   guides very cool stuff great update 2.1

00:50:29   Pixelmator coming out on August ninth if

00:50:34   you're Pixelmator user you gotta get the

00:50:35   update and if you're not a Pixelmator

00:50:37   user shame on you shame on you bought a

00:50:42   macbook air after we got back from WWDC

00:50:44   and was one that was one of the first

00:50:45   steps that I put on it and we started

00:50:47   fresh which I haven't done in years and

00:50:50   so I needed to go back and install just

00:50:53   deliberately install certain apps and

00:50:55   try and leave old junk behind i always

00:50:58   try that one that's always been the

00:50:59   first one is going to do

00:51:00   yeah you gotta have something like you

00:51:02   gotta have Pixelmator I mean this and

00:51:04   you know you just get it right from the

00:51:06   app store there you go it's not like the

00:51:07   adobe stuff for you know of a sudden

00:51:09   you've got seven gigabytes of flash

00:51:12   player stuff sitting in your library

00:51:14   folder installers what else we got here

00:51:17   got a couple of stories isn't news but

00:51:20   it somehow it's it's come up this last

00:51:22   week is the idea that the carriers in

00:51:24   the US and i think around the world i

00:51:26   got some email from a guy who works at a

00:51:27   car phone store and I think Ireland is a

00:51:34   carrier's direct their salespeople they

00:51:37   tell them hey guy comes in and says he

00:51:39   wants a smart phone try to steer him

00:51:41   towards these android things not the

00:51:43   iphone and that's not news but yeah but

00:51:50   I thought that the one story the story

00:51:51   was pretty good with this guy Jeff's

00:51:55   turn one into a verizon store and spent

00:51:57   40 minutes and he admits he himself is

00:52:00   not a big he you know use the F word he

00:52:03   says I'm certainly not an apple fanboy i

00:52:05   was in your store to buy and

00:52:07   android phone he went in there to buy an

00:52:09   android phone but this is what he heard

00:52:10   these are some quotes he heard from

00:52:12   verizon sales staff to customers they

00:52:15   released the iphone 4s because Steve

00:52:17   Jobs died so they just threw in a couple

00:52:19   more features and pushed it out

00:52:22   that's my favorite that might be my

00:52:24   faith that day could you just imagine

00:52:28   i'd just imagine like it is it was

00:52:31   shouldering ship it will see alert tim

00:52:33   cook and and jony ive and you're like

00:52:37   just so sad about Steve you know what

00:52:40   let's just let's just slap some more

00:52:43   features onto this phone and in his

00:52:46   memory where we'll just just shit out a

00:52:50   new iphone

00:52:51   that's the way that they're gonna i'm at

00:52:57   that's factually incorrect on so many

00:53:00   levels like what is the thought process

00:53:04   there because Steve Jobs died like that

00:53:06   the cause and effects with Steve Jobs

00:53:08   barrier they threw in a couple of monkey

00:53:10   the monkey was off their back and now

00:53:13   they could do what I really wanted to do

00:53:14   apples servers are really small and when

00:53:17   you use Syria normally redirects to

00:53:19   google anyway it's actually not not too

00:53:23   far off the mark I guess every icon

00:53:26   looks like on your homescreen it's

00:53:28   really hard to find applications you

00:53:32   know where only you know where it's even

00:53:33   harder to find applications in the dock

00:53:35   in the android store

00:53:41   yeah I got a I got my wife I'd nexus 7

00:53:45   oh yeah yeah she wanted she wanted

00:53:48   something to read books in bed and I

00:53:51   didn't want something I asked her if she

00:53:53   wanted an ipad and she didn't want

00:53:55   something that big

00:53:56   this is really just using it to read

00:53:57   books and so I was like yeah you know i

00:53:59   get i get the next guy won't try it out

00:54:00   anyway and stoner box and so and you

00:54:06   know and she's only using as an ear ear

00:54:08   right but I you know but I peruse the

00:54:10   google play store and it was really that

00:54:13   was really because Hank wanted to

00:54:16   destroy the weekend we got it we went to

00:54:17   the beach and Hank wanted to try it and

00:54:19   play some games on it and so I tried to

00:54:21   download some some games and i really

00:54:23   had a hard time finding anything that

00:54:26   was that good yeah I'm it does seem like

00:54:28   the best apps are all the ones that are

00:54:29   already built into it like you don't

00:54:32   there's aren't there aren't any third

00:54:33   party apps that are last have yeah and

00:54:36   what else did I heard

00:54:37   oh i just read today Fraser Spears had a

00:54:39   review of the nexus 7 he said yeah the

00:54:42   kindle app is just like the iPhone

00:54:44   Kindle app except font rendering is

00:54:45   worse

00:54:47   that's but it's and I like the form

00:54:48   factor and I think damn freaks at a

00:54:51   piece on macworld about how that makes

00:54:54   the case for a smaller ipad night I kind

00:54:57   of agree with that yeah i think that the

00:55:00   the just I think with it the consensus

00:55:01   that everybody is coming to is that the

00:55:03   10-inch tablet is is sort of a really

00:55:07   great size for general-purpose mobile

00:55:10   tablet computer but it's too big for it

00:55:14   to use it as an ereader yeah

00:55:16   meaning you're just sitting somewhere

00:55:18   and just holding it in one hand in

00:55:20   reading something really long you know

00:55:22   that it's it's just not really that good

00:55:26   you know that there's a reason why all

00:55:28   the other all the dedicated readers are

00:55:30   more like the six-inch sighs yeah and

00:55:32   the thing I like about i mean the thing

00:55:34   I like about it is that that seven inch

00:55:35   size really fits in you can hold it in

00:55:40   your hand and your fingers can go on

00:55:41   either side of it will release my hand

00:55:43   and I don't think you'll be able to do

00:55:46   that with a 7.8 inch i wonder i do

00:55:50   wonder about that like that's you know

00:55:51   obviously the the

00:55:52   the rampant rumors are that Apple's

00:55:54   smaller ipad is going to be 7.5 inches

00:55:57   yeah and so I wonder if you know I

00:56:01   definitely and I I've linked to it and

00:56:03   and explain it and it in the the math

00:56:05   really does seem even without trying the

00:56:07   math seems really solid that usability

00:56:09   wise it'll be really nice that the apps

00:56:12   won't seem too small to use that the

00:56:14   touch targets will be good if you just

00:56:16   run existing ipad apps at that size but

00:56:20   I do wonder if by making it that big

00:56:22   that they overshoot the it's really nice

00:56:25   to hold in one hand

00:56:27   yeah but I have a theory about that too

00:56:31   and that maybe it's not so much of

00:56:34   thought so I don't didn't built-in

00:56:36   handle in the backyard kickstand

00:56:39   kickstand know it's like a glove

00:56:41   just put it on your backhand like a good

00:56:44   big oven mitt

00:56:46   no I think it might be is it how much of

00:56:49   it is about the size of the ipad as we

00:56:51   know and how much is wait weights but

00:56:53   it's what I think it's be I think it's

00:56:54   mostly wait I think it's mostly wait

00:56:56   because you think you know I mean the

00:56:58   but I don't think it's alway as i do

00:57:01   think it is nice to just be able to get

00:57:02   going to hold it to hold it in your hand

00:57:04   but I I mean for me reading on the ipad

00:57:08   laying on my back or whatever and having

00:57:12   that I mean I would i do I curl up the

00:57:14   smart cover and I hold it by the Smart

00:57:16   Cover I just you know I think the way

00:57:18   you go about designing things you pick a

00:57:20   couple of criteria that you're going to

00:57:22   consider to be your your primary ones

00:57:24   and they're the ones you try to

00:57:25   compromise the least on and then

00:57:27   everything else is where you make these

00:57:28   compromises to meet these goals and it's

00:57:31   a lot better to have a couple of things

00:57:33   that really stand out than to try to

00:57:35   optimize everything and end up with

00:57:37   every aspect of it being mediocre so I

00:57:40   think 11 area where the ipad as we know

00:57:43   it they haven't really optimized for is

00:57:45   wait it's not you know compared to like

00:57:47   a laptop it's not heavy nobody ever said

00:57:49   point this ipad is killing me but it's

00:57:52   it's not a super lightweight device it's

00:57:55   not super thin I have a theory my

00:57:59   thinking is if this ipad mini thing is

00:58:01   true that maybe weight becomes a primary

00:58:04   design goal

00:58:06   and that it's really really thin and so

00:58:08   it comes at the expense of something

00:58:10   like a red you know that's why it

00:58:11   doesn't have a red who doesn't

00:58:12   supposedly have a Retina display because

00:58:15   then it can use a smaller battery so

00:58:19   it's just retina display takes more

00:58:20   battery suit with much smaller battery

00:58:23   it's and then it's then the way the I

00:58:26   the ipod touch is them right just sort

00:58:29   of insanely them

00:58:30   yeah exactly that's exactly I didn't

00:58:32   think of that but I'm going to steal

00:58:33   that it's on it

00:58:34   yeah so in a way that the ipod touch is

00:58:37   remarkably thinner than iphone maybe

00:58:39   this thing the ipad mini is remarkably

00:58:42   thinner than the idea as we know it and

00:58:45   that that's it that's a great selling

00:58:47   point right now it's the one-handed ipad

00:58:51   that's what I'm thinking we should we

00:58:55   should call somebody that Apple it's

00:58:59   that make that happen

00:59:01   anything else I got a few i got a few

00:59:04   things like a what we call my fuse

00:59:06   follow ups

00:59:07   yeah I last week's show with mgc where I

00:59:09   i somehow i forgot the third key to

00:59:14   success on the internet I i mentioned

00:59:17   the coffee i mentioned that sodastream

00:59:19   for making your over carbonated water

00:59:20   forgot to mention that you've got to

00:59:22   have a clicky keyboard seems inexcusable

00:59:25   how does the one that then that's the 1i

00:59:27   don't have which I find you and I got

00:59:30   explains where I am

00:59:31   my wife would love it if I got rid of a

00:59:33   couple of these i'll send one out to

00:59:34   actually do i'm actually just looking

00:59:37   over my shoulder here and I see 336 era

00:59:40   keyboards but the reason I forgot it is

00:59:44   i was actually I was on vacation last

00:59:46   week I recorded that show with mg while

00:59:48   i was on vacation so I didn't have my

00:59:50   clicky keyboard in front of me for I am

00:59:52   out of sight out of mind out of sight

00:59:54   out of mind and without that if i had

00:59:56   the keyboard / remember it

00:59:57   that's why you need to have one

00:59:57   that's why you need to have one

01:00:00   keep it in your mind I think it's the

01:00:02   clicking that reminds you so my

01:00:05   apologies though to anybody who isn't

01:00:06   familiar with my three-step theory to

01:00:10   internet success and it's going to be a

01:00:11   seminar i'm going to take the seminar

01:00:13   around the country this fall and I'm

01:00:15   going to teach you how to make fussy

01:00:16   coffee how to over carbonate your own

01:00:19   water and how to type on the keyboard to

01:00:23   me all day seminar come into a college

01:00:28   campus near you but I my apologies

01:00:30   anybody to listen to last week's show

01:00:32   and thought that you could get away with

01:00:33   just the coffee in the SodaStream that's

01:00:36   never get an explosion when you over

01:00:38   carbonate not yet how many many whistles

01:00:41   you do I idea 30 i do for the form now I

01:00:47   think the gaskets are going bad not

01:00:49   there yet i'm not there the gaskets are

01:00:50   going bad on the ceiling on my well

01:00:53   that's what I would think would happen

01:00:54   yeah and everything through I swear that

01:00:57   the blood-gas condom the plastic tops on

01:00:59   that the bottle caps to get these

01:01:02   reusable bottle comes to put the plastic

01:01:03   tops are getting cracked so many

01:01:05   scandals and I yeah you should listen

01:01:08   one of those lids just gonna come flying

01:01:10   often right when i open when like in the

01:01:12   end of the day that I had made at the

01:01:14   beginning of the day it is sort of like

01:01:15   opening a bottle of champagne

01:01:17   yeah mix it's a very satisfying pop

01:01:20   though that's really what happened your

01:01:21   hand write it shine let me show you off

01:01:25   the ship just sodastream accident so

01:01:28   three max the other one is a technical

01:01:32   and this is actually a good one is i

01:01:34   forgot i actually knew this and I'd

01:01:36   forgotten about it but mg and I last

01:01:37   week we're talking about the gatekeeper

01:01:40   and mountain lion and that with the

01:01:42   default setting you can open an unsigned

01:01:45   app and I've noticed a lot of developers

01:01:49   it seems like you know not talking about

01:01:50   App Store stuff stuff you download

01:01:52   directly from the developers websites

01:01:53   that they a lot of the apps i've been

01:01:55   downloading are already signed with

01:01:58   these free

01:01:59   I don't know a concert tickets to get

01:02:01   from apple yeah but even if you have one

01:02:04   that's not signed you can open it

01:02:08   without changing your gatekeeper

01:02:12   systemwide preferences did you know

01:02:14   about this no you can just do that one

01:02:16   app yeah you control click on the app to

01:02:20   get a contextual menu and then choose

01:02:22   open from the contextual menu and it'll

01:02:24   just open and I the things that one so

01:02:27   just that once we will stick just once

01:02:29   well no no it was just for that one app

01:02:31   and then yeah it the system applies the

01:02:34   I'm gonna forget that the lingo but it

01:02:37   gives it the the credential that says

01:02:40   okay this is a known good app this app

01:02:45   is known to be good so you're alright

01:02:46   which is a great great tip because that

01:02:49   way you can run gatekeeper at the

01:02:51   default more secure setting where it

01:02:54   only runs signed apps in appstore apps

01:02:56   but if you have other apps that aren't

01:02:58   signed you can open them without

01:03:00   diddling the settings you just control

01:03:01   click on it and choose open and I guess

01:03:03   the thinking is that nobody's gonna do

01:03:06   that by accident and it's sort of an

01:03:09   express anybody who knows about this

01:03:11   shortcut anybody who even knows that

01:03:12   contextual menus exist if you've done

01:03:14   this and choose open

01:03:16   ok we trust you you're not you know you

01:03:19   don't need to have your hand help on

01:03:20   this

01:03:21   yeah you have the have the gatekeeper

01:03:23   turned on i have it set to mac app store

01:03:26   and identify developers right now right

01:03:29   i think everybody and especially once

01:03:31   you know about this shortcut is really

01:03:32   you know unless you're for some odd

01:03:34   reason downloading unsigned applications

01:03:36   all day every day you know and it proved

01:03:40   to be an annoyance but I think once you

01:03:43   know about this shortcut there's no

01:03:44   reason for anybody not to run it with

01:03:46   that that's the default setting i think

01:03:47   it's i think it's great

01:03:49   did what Stace the four second is the

01:03:56   second the did you talk about the

01:03:58   September 12 no i didn't

01:04:02   yeah I didn't I don't know what there is

01:04:04   to say about that really but i don't

01:04:06   really have much that either seems get

01:04:08   the ideas i I'm or the guy that I

01:04:10   morning if they've actually gotten a lot

01:04:11   of scoops lately they've been doing some

01:04:13   good work we are

01:04:14   what's your friend's name their Rene

01:04:17   Rene Ritchie and he said he's got some

01:04:19   good sources but anyway he reported that

01:04:21   Apple is going to have another

01:04:22   sent on the 12 sep tember it's a

01:04:25   wednesday make sense like Wednesday's in

01:04:29   Tuesday's 12 sep tember and they're

01:04:31   going to announce the new iphone and the

01:04:34   ipad mini that's what he says and then

01:04:37   Jim Dalrymple gave it a yep he gave the

01:04:40   i-phone part

01:04:42   yep mmm he did not pull I don't know if

01:04:45   that was intentional or not but he

01:04:47   pulled the the part about the iphone and

01:04:50   said yet

01:04:51   yep after the close reading of ya down

01:04:53   rules

01:04:54   oh yes you have this is you know I'm a

01:04:56   professional and you have to pay

01:04:59   attention

01:05:00   I i have nothing two to add on that I

01:05:03   know nothing i well i know a lot but I

01:05:05   don't know anything about any events

01:05:06   sounds right to me

01:05:08   well some and then today some Wall

01:05:11   Street analysts said I think it was shot

01:05:13   while but i'm not positive said oh no

01:05:15   but I've heard from parts suppliers

01:05:17   they're not shipping parts until the

01:05:19   late September

01:05:20   I don't know but yeah I don't I don't I

01:05:23   don't take anything I think the I more

01:05:25   story was an announcement September 12th

01:05:27   goes on sale nine days later which also

01:05:30   makes sense because Apple tend to not

01:05:33   you know release products on fridays

01:05:34   yeah and i think in theory in general if

01:05:41   they're ready assuming everything is

01:05:42   actually ready to go

01:05:43   I just makes sense to me that apple

01:05:45   would prefer to do it mid-september than

01:05:47   mid-october

01:05:48   yeah we think so right you get much more

01:05:50   time before Christmas right more time

01:05:52   before Christmas everything you know

01:05:54   october bizarrely is already a big

01:05:56   Christmas buying month so yeah I don't

01:05:58   know yeah I'm sure that you're not

01:06:01   you're not running out in October buying

01:06:04   Christmas presents and i know that i am

01:06:05   NOT gotta know what is CI is so sits

01:06:10   just sick i think i was a you know where

01:06:14   it came up but i know is talking to our

01:06:16   friend pocket fascist of rogue amoeba

01:06:18   Fame about it and it was literally it

01:06:21   was the beginning of june it was the

01:06:23   beginning of june not even the end of

01:06:24   june beginning of june and there was a

01:06:28   back-to-school sale back to school

01:06:31   I mean I mean that's my kid wasn't even

01:06:33   out of school yet and as a kid that

01:06:35   would make me angry

01:06:36   all in all but it there any time because

01:06:38   anytime you know you're going through

01:06:39   summer and anytime you see that the back

01:06:41   to school special you know that

01:06:43   commercials come on ours forever just

01:06:45   drive me

01:06:46   Oh God by getting a piece of dogshit

01:06:49   your newspaper exactly always horrible

01:06:51   you just get your looking for like the

01:06:52   funny pages of the sports yeah and then

01:06:54   there's a circular and then Thomas says

01:06:56   hey you're going back to school in a

01:06:58   couple weeks and there's a queue a

01:06:59   picture of a twelve-year-old boy wearing

01:07:01   a brand-new pair of stiff jeans my god

01:07:06   it's just horrible with that now you

01:07:10   know with that you know kid who's a 12

01:07:12   year old model for department store

01:07:15   circulars smile on his face I guess that

01:07:17   I guess that like like the Apple ads

01:07:21   though is not for the kids

01:07:23   no it's for the it's for the parents and

01:07:26   the parents are thinking the opposite

01:07:28   they're thinking

01:07:29   good god I can't wait for this kid to go

01:07:31   back to school let's go get him

01:07:32   something we're gonna get you some jeans

01:07:35   today Jimmy what it's like a month and I

01:07:42   have a gun and you know they're buying a

01:07:44   different size 2 and Jimmy I'm Jimmy

01:07:46   will be a different sockets but it's

01:07:47   only goes to school right and it's like

01:07:49   a by that you gotta be heard that is

01:07:50   where it is wearing flood pants

01:07:52   ok pero getting his ass kicked all right

01:07:57   I'm where I I say we call it a show

01:07:59   alright I'm i think we have to do we hid

01:08:01   it under an hour

01:08:02   I think we might have if we do we win a

01:08:04   prize if we get the show prize so keep

01:08:08   your eye on the mailbox

01:08:09   I don't think John Smoltz thanks for

01:08:11   being here very nice website dotnet is

01:08:15   that right is that does correct

01:08:17   it's both actually it's calm and done

01:08:19   thank god

01:08:20   very nice very nice