The Incomparable

335: Perfect Kid Logic

 

  the incomparable number 335 January 2070 [TS]

  welcome back everybody to the [TS]

  uncomfortable i am your host Jason still [TS]

  we are here to talk about a classic film [TS]

  this time classic science fiction film [TS]

  from 1982 it's ET the extra-terrestrial [TS]

  as directed by steven spielberg joining [TS]

  us because they got lost while picking [TS]

  flowers are my following guests David [TS]

  jail or hello and the Elliots not here [TS]

  uh chips on earth [TS]

  hello I look forward to this discussion [TS]

  of at the extra-terrestrial mmm i will [TS]

  be talking about the Mary Hart John Tesh [TS]

  oh not that he does haha very and [TS]

  studying for this my whole life very [TS]

  confusing [TS]

  David Sparkes also joins us hi David hi [TS]

  Jason remember years ago I told you if [TS]

  you ever do eet you need to make me the [TS]

  most excellent promise you they were [TS]

  made that you would include me [TS]

  yeah and here we are you see I keep my [TS]

  promises like when I told the entity he [TS]

  would be on the alien episode it took [TS]

  years but it you know what happens [TS]

  eventually and Erica inside [TS]

  hi hello I was just excited to watch a [TS]

  movie about intergalactic gardeners yeah [TS]

  that's right about me finding one of the [TS]

  less appreciated parts of science [TS]

  fiction spit XO botany i suppose and you [TS]

  know i'm a fan any opening statements [TS]

  that happens a lot of people come [TS]

  prepared with opening statements and I [TS]

  want to you know I i want to hear them [TS]

  out [TS]

  I kind of have an opening statement i [TS]

  love this movie so much i was in the [TS]

  theater was a kid when I first came out [TS]

  and I'm definitely here as the the blind [TS]

  fan that's okay just put that out there [TS]

  alright alright it'sit's I I doubt we're [TS]

  going to savage this is not a rocket [TS]

  surgery I doubt we're going to safford [TS]

  savage etv extraterrestrial I could be [TS]

  surprised i will point out that [TS]

  something I'd forgotten but when et was [TS]

  released in june of 1982 Star Wars was [TS]

  the highest-grossing film of all time [TS]

  and ET surpassed it and became a fort [TS]

  for a decade the highest-grossing motion [TS]

  picture of all time until another Steven [TS]

  Spielberg movie Jurassic Park passed in [TS]

  the 90 so [TS]

  this was a success on essentially every [TS]

  level [TS]

  everybody saw it in the eighties [TS]

  everybody loved it they didn't put it [TS]

  out on home video for like six years [TS]

  because they just kept re-releasing into [TS]

  theaters and made people increasingly [TS]

  angry I and then for many years it it be [TS]

  still but I for many years I think NBC [TS]

  broadcast it on Thanksgiving night as [TS]

  sort of a good for the whole family [TS]

  holiday film so yeah I think the most [TS]

  impressive thing about et's species by [TS]

  the way is that they travel across the [TS]

  galaxy using only the power of rainbows [TS]

  oh don't make me make David Sparkes [TS]

  angry with me this early [TS]

  please go drive the rainbow drives and [TS]

  flowers it's a perfectly and there they [TS]

  we come with rainbows seeking your [TS]

  flowers [TS]

  it's great it's pretty awesome alright [TS]

  so et is a it's very interesting movie [TS]

  in that I was gonna up before I serve [TS]

  summarizing the plot i guess i have an [TS]

  opening statement after all I'm [TS]

  surprised but I say this about some [TS]

  miyazaki movies totoro and kiki's [TS]

  delivery service very specifically in [TS]

  that there's kind of no bad guy in ET [TS]

  there's Peter Coyote who is keys the [TS]

  government agent who is searching for et [TS]

  but even he in the end is kind of turns [TS]

  out is not a bad guy they're just trying [TS]

  to find this alien land that landed [TS]

  their threat more threats than a [TS]

  miyazaki movie because you do have the [TS]

  sort of sinister music as the government [TS]

  people look for ET but it's pretty [TS]

  gentle it is a pretty kind of [TS]

  delightfully gentle movie i have not [TS]

  seen it since 1982 and it's stuck with [TS]

  me pretty well but i did not remember it [TS]

  being so lyrical I didn't remember it [TS]

  being so [TS]

  sweet you know it felt like it felt like [TS]

  just a big blockbuster back then it's [TS]

  very different looking at with severely [TS]

  aged eyes [TS]

  yeah I had kind of the same experience I [TS]

  I don't remember when I saw it for the [TS]

  first time I know it wasn't on its [TS]

  original release in the theater because [TS]

  we couldn't afford to go to movies so i [TS]

  suspect i saw it like on VHS later or [TS]

  maybe one of the releases and maybe saw [TS]

  parts of it in between then and now but [TS]

  didn't have a whole lot of memory like [TS]

  the memories that I remembered where [TS]

  that the the threats as you put it Jason [TS]

  in the film were more heavy and real [TS]

  than they are watching it as an adult so [TS]

  I think it I think that you know that [TS]

  that worked their whole swaths a plot [TS]

  that i did not remember that you know [TS]

  this did so yeah I think it's a [TS]

  different experience watching it as an [TS]

  adult but i think that the reason that [TS]

  it worked so well and you know became [TS]

  the top-grossing film for so many years [TS]

  is because it did feel like it was a a a [TS]

  real threat and sort of a scary movie 2 [TS]

  kids to some extent interesting to me is [TS]

  when I was a kid and I saw the first [TS]

  time of course identified with Elliot [TS]

  yeah and and that's part of the reason [TS]

  why i love this movie so much is it is a [TS]

  time capsule of my childhood I had a [TS]

  friend that were ski mask we played [TS]

  Dungeons and Dragons I mean the stuff [TS]

  the stuff in the movie that you look at [TS]

  it with 2016 eyes you say all that none [TS]

  of that happened no it all happened it's [TS]

  always in Elliot's room [TS]

  yeah yeah okay we get on our bikes and [TS]

  we had to be home when it was dark and [TS]

  other otherwise our parents had no idea [TS]

  where we were and it just was kind of it [TS]

  was a snapshot of my childhood so of [TS]

  course i love that now but as a kid I [TS]

  identify with Elliot then my daughter is [TS]

  now 20 when she was like for I hadn't [TS]

  seen the moving years and I said well I [TS]

  think she's ready for a tissot watch TT [TS]

  and i just i think i got very nostalgic [TS]

  seen that stuff but also the interesting [TS]

  thing to me was when I watched it when [TS]

  she was a child was identified with keys [TS]

  which I hadn't seen the movie from keys [TS]

  perspective in open you know when you [TS]

  think about it as an adult you're [TS]

  watching oh my goodness he's these [TS]

  people have this alien in their house [TS]

  and 30 [TS]

  isn't so it was it was a good experience [TS]

  for me from both ends of the transaction [TS]

  i guess you would say now I feel alive [TS]

  again maybe as an adult looking at it [TS]

  but the threat here is not really a [TS]

  threat that anything to they're gonna do [TS]

  something terrible to ET the thread is [TS]

  more like they're going to ruin our fun [TS]

  we have an alien in our house [TS]

  I don't want anybody else to know about [TS]

  her or or find him [TS]

  I just want to keep them for myself as [TS]

  the hey Erica it's a one alien for [TS]

  Christmas right by one that's exactly it [TS]

  i want to i just did he's from his mind [TS]

  he's my pet alien and so that's the [TS]

  threat from the government is like you [TS]

  know they want to ruin everything by [TS]

  like learning about him and maybe you [TS]

  know because honestly could ET have [TS]

  communicated to his home and radioed [TS]

  home more effectively with the resources [TS]

  of the federal government probably this [TS]

  felt the little more sinister than that [TS]

  in that I thought that there was kind of [TS]

  a bad guy which is what the ignorance of [TS]

  adults throughout this movie except for [TS]

  Elliot's mom you never see it it's [TS]

  almost like peanuts come to life you'll [TS]

  never see adult heads you never see [TS]

  anything in anything like that and the [TS]

  first time that you actually see a [TS]

  full-on human silhouette is when you've [TS]

  got when you've got dudes an astronaut [TS]

  suits uh the walking dead in their way [TS]

  and yet in the front door that's super [TS]

  scary and we would need to talk more [TS]

  about that when we get there but you're [TS]

  right i mean yeah you're right there [TS]

  it's a threat and if you're a kid seems [TS]

  like there's just as an adult I look at [TS]

  it and I think yeah you know is that is [TS]

  it really that scary you know if the [TS]

  music is scary that's actually one of my [TS]

  first notes is that this is john [TS]

  williams a year after raiders of the [TS]

  lost ark doing a score that at moments [TS]

  is the uplifting ET kind of music that [TS]

  we think of but especially in the early [TS]

  scenes it's much more raiders of the [TS]

  lost ark where it's sort of slow and [TS]

  kind of dissonant and spooky and I think [TS]

  that does that I think that goes a long [TS]

  way that the the people in their cars [TS]

  going through the forest and the and the [TS]

  john williams music makes it seems [TS]

  scarier [TS]

  then you know at least as an adult I [TS]

  look at it and I think they're you know [TS]

  they're just looking for it that they [TS]

  think there's an alien spaceship that [TS]

  landed in the forest because one did and [TS]

  they want to find out about it you know [TS]

  that's not not unreasonable but maybe [TS]

  this means i'm terrible and I should get [TS]

  a set of keys needed my help we're also [TS]

  looking at it in a post x-files world so [TS]

  now we can empathize with FBI agents [TS]

  looking for aliens I kept expecting keys [TS]

  to sort of morph into the dude from the [TS]

  Starman TV show opening theme where he's [TS]

  always talking to camera i can get you [TS]

  the alien but he doesn't ask Peter [TS]

  Coyote he tells a nice story at the end [TS]

  about how he's been dreaming about alien [TS]

  since he was since he was Elliot's agent [TS]

  turns out he's you know he's just a [TS]

  regular guy and he feels really sad like [TS]

  all the doctors do but we'll get there [TS]

  maybe we should start at the beginning [TS]

  and mrs. very good interesting we see [TS]

  keys investigating it's all dialogue [TS]

  long stretch of of no dialogue here we [TS]

  don't really that we see the people [TS]

  investigating the alien landing you know [TS]

  I the there's a spaceship there they're [TS]

  going through the forest great gathering [TS]

  plants people are coming we see the keys [TS]

  there is this John Williams score that [TS]

  is great but its its its sinister and [TS]

  then in the end the alien spaceship [TS]

  sends out its called for its to recall [TS]

  all of its botanist or whatever and one [TS]

  of them gets left behind and that's [TS]

  that's our buddy that's ee that's the [TS]

  the title extraterrestrial i love the [TS]

  love the way they when they say they're [TS]

  scrambling to look because they think [TS]

  there's one left and they want to take [TS]

  off and then there's a shot at a fence [TS]

  where all the flashlights point up in [TS]

  the sky following the spaceship and then [TS]

  simultaneously they all go down and [TS]

  start their search [TS]

  it's very Spielberg to me oh yeah yes [TS]

  yeah they're there are a number of of [TS]

  times where things are you know [TS]

  realism is sacrificed for the sake of [TS]

  getting the shot or making something [TS]

  beautiful like keys for example who [TS]

  keeps moving his keys from one side of [TS]

  his hips to the other does that mean [TS]

  this thing he's got a lot of key to [TS]

  unlock a lot of doors that's the thing I [TS]

  kept thinking too is like why do you [TS]

  need any keys back in the days when the [TS]

  size of your keyring you know she'll [TS]

  never Andy work i love the world [TS]

  building of the you know the interior of [TS]

  the ship you know you pay attention and [TS]

  yet it it's a bottom the expedition the [TS]

  aliens are visiting us to check us out [TS]

  the way that we would be doing [TS]

  theoretically 200 years from now i love [TS]

  it that we're that we're weird the [TS]

  indigenous where the indigenous [TS]

  life-forms and there's a clever [TS]

  scientists except for the clever [TS]

  scientists you can't figure out that [TS]

  it's time to go [TS]

  yeah he's just caught up and in getting [TS]

  those plants that they have a prime [TS]

  directive of some sort / presumably but [TS]

  also i like the fact that these are [TS]

  aliens did you get back to the x-files [TS]

  point they just want to probe our plants [TS]

  not our bodies and that's fine that's [TS]

  they're nice they're just looking for [TS]

  salad [TS]

  yeah that's right hungry a technical [TS]

  issue here so that the all the suburban [TS]

  stuff is shot in the San Fernando Valley [TS]

  in Southern California but the forest [TS]

  stuff is shot like it in Mike Northern [TS]

  California redwood forest i believe so [TS]

  it's a it's a this is a this is sort of [TS]

  a suburb that doesn't quite exist where [TS]

  there's this kind of amazing forest [TS]

  right backing up on the suburb but still [TS]

  we see we see down into the suburb into [TS]

  essentially the san fernando valley it's [TS]

  never specified but that's where they [TS]

  shot it where the the alien perhaps is [TS]

  going and we see a house populated by a [TS]

  bunch of kids there are older boys who [TS]

  are playing Dungeons and Dragons and [TS]

  there's the younger boy [TS]

  Elliot who wants to get in on the action [TS]

  there's a lot that goes on in this scene [TS]

  there's a lot of dialogue there's the [TS]

  there's a whole dnd thing going on [TS]

  Elliot trying to get in with the older [TS]

  boys that are playing with his brother [TS]

  but I wanted to stop and just say it's [TS]

  funny in the highest grossing movie of [TS]

  all time the places where you find [TS]

  influence and like stranger things would [TS]

  not exist were it not for this scene [TS]

  like this scene is stranger things it's [TS]

  the people who made that that movie that [TS]

  or that that netflix series said you [TS]

  know that scene in ET we're playing [TS]

  Dungeons and Dragons what if we did a [TS]

  whole show of [TS]

  that because that's basically like it's [TS]

  all there [TS]

  Freaks and Geeks also seriously [TS]

  references this scene in ET this is like [TS]

  for me this is the the the ground zero [TS]

  of you know of a tease [TS]

  kids playing and and you know ordering a [TS]

  pizza and all that stuff it's all right [TS]

  in here which he is just i was struck me [TS]

  how how much quotes that that scene in [TS]

  the house angry and ended it really mean [TS]

  that's what we were doing you know i [TS]

  remember playing the very brief amount [TS]

  of time I play dnd was right around when [TS]

  he came out [TS]

  yeah the dnd people must have been very [TS]

  happy that there's role-playing [TS]

  happening even like the dialogue is a [TS]

  little edgier than you'd see in the kids [TS]

  movie these days [TS]

  oh yeah and they're douchebags thrown [TS]

  around a lot of kids movies these [TS]

  tickets for penis breath i remember how [TS]

  scandalized my mom was at the penis [TS]

  breath and in and then immediately [TS]

  ensued with a well they did that just [TS]

  just to keep it from being rated g and [TS]

  it up that that behind it yeah yeah [TS]

  those were the words we were using at [TS]

  the time I mean it's not it's it's it's [TS]

  a tactic [TS]

  yeah but my mom didn't like to think [TS]

  that that was which case those are our [TS]

  16 year old boys doing with 16 year old [TS]

  boys do and then there's you know or 15 [TS]

  year-old boys whatever and then there's [TS]

  you know ten-year-old eleven-year-old [TS]

  whatever is somewhere around there [TS]

  Elliot who once you know who wants to [TS]

  play with the big boys but he's a little [TS]

  brother I do think they're trying to get [TS]

  across the point that deal Wallace is [TS]

  trying to hold it together the breakdown [TS]

  of the nuclear family was a big deal [TS]

  here as well yeah she'sshe's only she's [TS]

  recently separated she's not divorced [TS]

  yet yeah it'sit's been recent but that's [TS]

  a through line for her and the kids is [TS]

  throughout is you know the abandoned the [TS]

  abandonment my dad and the the that just [TS]

  that the trauma that there really that [TS]

  that seems to inform Elliot a little bit [TS]

  you know I've got to find somebody to [TS]

  take care of here [TS]

  it's very clear there's a very personal [TS]

  movie for Steven Spielberg his parents [TS]

  split up when he was young [TS]

  and that that's that's where this is [TS]

  coming from like this is this is his [TS]

  childhood issues kind of brought into [TS]

  this fantasy setting which is kind of a [TS]

  classic thing I think to do it is recent [TS]

  he's got he the father has run off to [TS]

  Mexico with his his new girlfriend he [TS]

  doesn't even like Mexico but he went to [TS]

  Mexico anyway it's that it's it stuff so [TS]

  so yeah she's dead she's trying to do [TS]

  well it's trying to hold it together [TS]

  they order a pizza which turns out i [TS]

  think they're not supposed to do and [TS]

  they have Elliot go get the pizza and [TS]

  from the delivery driver but on his way [TS]

  back with a pizza he thinks there's [TS]

  something in the garden shed [TS]

  don't-don't-don't there is an alien it's [TS]

  really an alien shit [TS]

  no it's a raccoon it's a raccoon surely [TS]

  there is a raccoon in this moment just [TS]

  later and don't call me shirley fit so [TS]

  so Elliot is a intrigued he also steps [TS]

  on the peets kills me everytime it's a [TS]

  god no good one job you had one job but [TS]

  it's a bit i think the scene is [TS]

  interesting it was so he goes throws the [TS]

  ball and then it all comes back flips [TS]

  flips out and then again just kind of [TS]

  another sign the deal Wallace's is [TS]

  barely hanging on the kids all grab [TS]

  knives and yes right and then Michael [TS]

  said he looks at these tracks that are [TS]

  clearly not a coyote [TS]

  yes mam the Coyotes are back at that's [TS]

  one for the movie i can never understand [TS]

  it's not like you'll be tracks it's dark [TS]

  and they don't they're not prepared for [TS]

  alias it's mostly just scuffs like you [TS]

  don't actually see any very clear [TS]

  footprints oh yeah yeah but i feel like [TS]

  she I think she even says like don't she [TS]

  tells them not to do the knives or what [TS]

  everything that that's that's the thing [TS]

  where I where as an adult I look at it [TS]

  and I just feel so bad for her because [TS]

  her life is kind of falling apart and [TS]

  she's trying to keep it together is that [TS]

  in this scene she tells that the boys [TS]

  not to do everything they do and they [TS]

  just blow right past drives yeah right [TS]

  i've seen families like that yes hello [TS]

  parent of a fourteen-year-old yeah so [TS]

  yeah so so reese's pieces are used as a [TS]

  as a guy I an attractor a lower yes yes [TS]

  that's my that's one of my favorite [TS]

  things just like that is that is perfect [TS]

  kid logic like you know what do i use to [TS]

  attract an alien [TS]

  well Lisa's resist pieces because you [TS]

  know candy sweet who wouldn't want candy [TS]

  i love it i want Reese's Pieces can [TS]

  lower this animal and aurĂ©lien back to [TS]

  my house with with with candy but he has [TS]

  a peanut allergy know that's the [TS]

  alternate ending when he's on the table [TS]

  at the end of the movie he says he [TS]

  dalenge haha I don't entirely understand [TS]

  why that works uh there is i don't [TS]

  exactly understand why in is awaiting [TS]

  manual ET thinks that the logical thing [TS]

  to do when the ball is thrown in is to [TS]

  throw it back out and when a UH an [TS]

  indigenous child leaves candies lying [TS]

  around that he follows around to pick [TS]

  them up at that point he might be hungry [TS]

  can you really blame him but he bring [TS]

  some back at least many of them back [TS]

  some of them some of my meeting about [TS]

  how many must have been left out there [TS]

  200 forest you leave all the way home so [TS]

  he saves like 644 Elliott says it's a [TS]

  small gesture in my headcanon he he [TS]

  recognizes elliot from the first meeting [TS]

  from the pizza meeting and says well [TS]

  maybe this is a place I can be safe [TS]

  this is the place where the fact that [TS]

  i've only basically seen it once and [TS]

  it's loom so large as a pop-culture [TS]

  piece of history and now I'm seeing it [TS]

  again after so much time this is where [TS]

  old brain really has me at a [TS]

  disadvantage because I keep expecting [TS]

  the movie at this point and keep [TS]

  expecting ET to behave more sensibly [TS]

  then he does i have complex headcanon [TS]

  about et's behavior to which is mostly [TS]

  the tt's kind of screw-up because I mean [TS]

  let's face it he got left behind on an [TS]

  alien planet [TS]

  he's kind of a screw-up yeah and I also [TS]

  think he's kind of whimsical here a [TS]

  little bit this is one of the many [TS]

  things that he hasn't come with Yoda [TS]

  maybe I think each I think he's kinda [TS]

  like having a good time and he's like.he [TS]

  it's a kid it's gonna be fine and the [TS]

  other the other thing I would throw in [TS]

  there is [TS]

  so they're aliens they they do weird [TS]

  stuff the way they think about in [TS]

  situations and this though this comes up [TS]

  later if they just do weird stuff you [TS]

  know what would who are we to say that [TS]

  this is not perfectly logical behavior [TS]

  for them in their culture we don't know [TS]

  maybe the prime directive is to not [TS]

  interfere with the ball so send the ball [TS]

  right then the ball back [TS]

  that's right but that's interfering with [TS]

  a ball Jase date whoever you superior [TS]

  you agree with me then go to screw up [TS]

  basically he's definitely not exactly [TS]

  Starfleet's finest no clear he got left [TS]

  behind on it away mission because he was [TS]

  too busy with his flower pot or weapons [TS]

  the Barclay of of this group that's what [TS]

  it is [TS]

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  to Casper for sponsoring the [TS]

  incomparable I so he brings the reese's [TS]

  pieces back he follows Elliot to his [TS]

  room there we get a lot of interesting [TS]

  interesting stuff in here they are they [TS]

  are mirroring each other's movements but [TS]

  you also get right before that you get a [TS]

  I guess whether you like a ten-year-old [TS]

  explanation of how the world works and [TS]

  that was just precious [TS]

  I thought also i would add that the the [TS]

  soundtrack the music of I think some [TS]

  meeting of friends on the soundtrack [TS]

  it's the music that he plays it's a harp [TS]

  and very soft me to get I think it's [TS]

  some of john williams like really nice [TS]

  work if they were if you're listening [TS]

  soundtrack i think this the music they [TS]

  play this is perfect for that scene [TS]

  yeah its your right there there is the [TS]

  he tries to Elliot explains how how the [TS]

  world works and what various objects are [TS]

  very advanced point and it's delightful [TS]

  because they are it is it is so [TS]

  wonderfully without any context that any [TS]

  alien could possibly understand it's [TS]

  great [TS]

  yeah the idea that he explains what a [TS]

  car is using a little like hot wheels [TS]

  matchbox car like even if alien could [TS]

  understand the words he was using that [TS]

  would make no sense knows these to get [TS]

  around how but Elliot so deadly serious [TS]

  that it just [TS]

  love it every time it's like so hard [TS]

  he's trying so hard [TS]

  yeah so precocious why does ete the car [TS]

  he's just an alien and aliens do weird [TS]

  stuff again [TS]

  well why not everything else Elliot has [TS]

  given him has been food and we can meet [TS]

  this to its little piece of metal to eat [TS]

  metal here [TS]

  sure maybe 10 as a matchbox car allergy [TS]

  know this this had a real impression on [TS]

  me as a kid his whole plan of faking [TS]

  being sick to stay home from school [TS]

  where he's got the stuff he's got the [TS]

  the the the thermometer and he's putting [TS]

  it on the lamp and he's got the the [TS]

  heating pad that he's putting on his [TS]

  face and then his mom comes in the room [TS]

  and he pulled you know pulls the beating [TS]

  pad off and put the thermometer in his [TS]

  mouth and I love that little bit where [TS]

  he puts it in backwards and then [TS]

  realizes and gets put into a nice little [TS]

  detail their wonder how many kids burn [TS]

  their tongues check the copy i take it [TS]

  you got it you got to be careful doing [TS]

  that because if you actually put the [TS]

  thermometer right to the lightbulb it [TS]

  will shoot up so high that your mom's [TS]

  going to know NBD leader 120 that's [TS]

  right [TS]

  not that I've ever tried that on there [TS]

  are subtle science there this is more [TS]

  getting to know each other [TS]

  the movie so when you watch this movie [TS]

  multiple times you realize that they are [TS]

  because what happens here is a Elliot an [TS]

  ET are connected there's sort of [TS]

  mentally connected and you can see it [TS]

  happens in early point not only are they [TS]

  kind of ETA is kind of imitating his [TS]

  movements but you have the whole the the [TS]

  startling with the umbrella that et is [TS]

  startled and Elliott gets scared so it's [TS]

  like they are good very clearly [TS]

  connected even if you missed that on [TS]

  first viewing very clearly connected [TS]

  yeah I don't know when that happened [TS]

  it's it's not really clear but very [TS]

  early [TS]

  they're connected yeah i thought it [TS]

  actually was in retrospect was meant to [TS]

  happen just after like just before [TS]

  Elliot falls asleep because they're like [TS]

  looking at each other and they're both [TS]

  like rocking and I was like can eat can [TS]

  eat hypnotized this kid what's what's [TS]

  happening and I didn't put it together [TS]

  until much later that that was probably [TS]

  the time that he was sort of like [TS]

  inserting himself and Elliot's mind [TS]

  oh my god that's pretty sinister [TS]

  actually [TS]

  a little sea see Dan was right there is [TS]

  also the scene though when when they [TS]

  when Elliot for when he first comes back [TS]

  and there in like I guess it's like a [TS]

  cornfield or something these tall weeds [TS]

  and they both flip out at the same [TS]

  moment and that seems to be very similar [TS]

  to but maybe it's just because they're [TS]

  both seeing each other [TS]

  this is where Elliot introduces ET to [TS]

  his big brother Michael and to his [TS]

  little sister Gertie the second one is [TS]

  more accidental yeah [TS]

  yes because he makes that this is david [TS]

  this is your you gotta make the most [TS]

  excellent promise [TS]

  yes and I have absolute power we got [TS]

  about your power business there's a [TS]

  there's a bunch of yoda references in [TS]

  this movie too and it's great because [TS]

  curtsies czt and screams and the scene [TS]

  that follows her scream I all I could [TS]

  write down in my notes was madness [TS]

  because it's just really chaotic like [TS]

  everybody running around with her hair [TS]

  on fire moment in the movie at that [TS]

  point it's great i hate movie scenes [TS]

  when you have the everybody screams [TS]

  moment it makes me just break out and [TS]

  home alone hives but this time it works [TS]

  it just really does work [TS]

  its glorious so we watch this with the [TS]

  whole family and I I turned to my [TS]

  daughter as gritty appeared on screen [TS]

  and I said hey drew barrymore and and [TS]

  Jamie just what [TS]

  yeah it is drew barrymore at her cutest [TS]

  little five-year-old self in this movie [TS]

  it is very funny to see her and realize [TS]

  that she went on to have like a whole [TS]

  career but here she is little little [TS]

  sister adorable so adorable haha so [TS]

  adorable mad this also i love the fact [TS]

  that that he introduces his brother to [TS]

  the alien so quickly like because I mean [TS]

  they could have stretch that out and had [TS]

  some more wacky hijinks with him trying [TS]

  to hide ET but I one of the real charms [TS]

  of this movie is is you know the kids [TS]

  sort of not even versus the adults but [TS]

  just the kids banding together and be [TS]

  kids and i love i love the idea that [TS]

  while he is the younger brother and he [TS]

  does get treated like a younger brother [TS]

  most of the time he still he still loves [TS]

  his older brother [TS]

  dance and wants to bring him in on this [TS]

  so he does and then of course the older [TS]

  brother that the treats him very [TS]

  differently after that because oh my god [TS]

  it's real it's real [TS]

  yeah it's just do the any of the rest of [TS]

  you get a fairytale vibe from this story [TS]

  oh yeah who are specifically [TS]

  specifically because of the fact that [TS]

  for most of this movie it's the kids [TS]

  versus the adult it's the it's the it's [TS]

  the the three children who are teaming [TS]

  up to protect and take care of their new [TS]

  buddy its yeah I I came into this [TS]

  expecting more science fiction than i [TS]

  had and i got fairytale and that threw [TS]

  me off a bit so it's also classic [TS]

  children's literature and just in a way [TS]

  that the parents are absent or at least [TS]

  its structured so the parents are not [TS]

  involved I mean Harry Potter is like [TS]

  that to this day is that same sort of [TS]

  idea that it's the you know the kids the [TS]

  kids are the ones who have the adventure [TS]

  not the parents and so the killing off [TS]

  the dad they send him to Mexico [TS]

  yeah he doesn't even like Mexico think [TS]

  yeah we skipped over that seemed that [TS]

  that was a very interesting that [TS]

  watching it again as an adult where you [TS]

  know they have kind of the the dinner [TS]

  confrontation and that was pretty heavy [TS]

  you know I don't remember as a kid that [TS]

  scene but looking back on it could you [TS]

  get away with that scene today I don't [TS]

  think so nice i think i think people are [TS]

  too jaded about that [TS]

  yeah i mean that the goal is to show [TS]

  that she shattered right they might show [TS]

  that today it might be a different way [TS]

  that you showed that she's she's feels [TS]

  like completely destroyed here and he's [TS]

  running off having a good time and she's [TS]

  left she's left holding the bag but it's [TS]

  a classic it's a classic move [TS]

  so you know it's still I think it still [TS]

  works but they might do handle it [TS]

  differently today because divorce you [TS]

  know [TS]

  yeah that did with this was at a point [TS]

  where we're culturally we were just you [TS]

  know accepting that divorce was a thing [TS]

  that happened all the time where it was [TS]

  it was still and still kind of shameful [TS]

  in a way that it probably isn't today [TS]

  well and also it's it's you know [TS]

  Spielberg's own experience I me he did [TS]

  have an imaginary friend as a child when [TS]

  his parents split up this that mean [TS]

  that's the germ of the idea that became [TS]

  the movie [TS]

  sure and so it's it's coming from his [TS]

  experience of its not just oh well [TS]

  here's how we're gonna show this story [TS]

  here's how we're gonna show this couple [TS]

  breaking up [TS]

  it's that it feels personal in a way [TS]

  sure sure the let's see what else [TS]

  happens over there is a great shot in [TS]

  here because we keep coming back to [TS]

  brief moments of the of the people and [TS]

  key is searching for the alien there's a [TS]

  great one of those shots where you know [TS]

  you zoom out and Ollie in so the [TS]

  backward the background kind of recedes [TS]

  which field are used to great effect in [TS]

  Jaws actually and you get you get a [TS]

  great shot of that here with a who as as [TS]

  keys is in looking down on the [TS]

  subdivision that that they live in [TS]

  Gert declares that she doesn't like eet [TS]

  EES feet [TS]

  I enjoyed that I thought that was I [TS]

  thought that was good [TS]

  they're weird they're weird feet shaped [TS]

  funny her non sequiturs are some of my [TS]

  favorite things that's nothing haha mr. [TS]

  Barrymore is awesome through this whole [TS]

  movie yeah [TS]

  alligators in the sewers didn't even [TS]

  mention that [TS]

  watching it now I i wonder how much of [TS]

  that how much room he left for [TS]

  improvisation and and just sort of [TS]

  random things because you know that some [TS]

  of those things you wouldn't necessarily [TS]

  script so you know maybe that's her [TS]

  saying yeah he's good we're treat ya [TS]

  right here they ask where he's from and [TS]

  he makes the play doh float to make like [TS]

  a little la solar system of your system [TS]

  yeah and he makes a he makes a flower [TS]

  come back to life [TS]

  I dead flower he's got powerful his [TS]

  pickup hours he could levitate stuff [TS]

  again nearly and he's got weird [TS]

  there's weird stuff we don't know about [TS]

  him but he's living in the house [TS]

  oh and the end there this leads into a a [TS]

  scene is is this where the scene happens [TS]

  where the mom looks for looks for what's [TS]

  going on in the closet and sees all the [TS]

  stuffed animals and et is just a stuffed [TS]

  animals that is a that is one of the [TS]

  most amazing scenes in any movie ever [TS]

  that he's just got his eyes wide open [TS]

  completely surrounded by all of all the [TS]

  stuffed animals its iconic that supports [TS]

  Jason's ETS Yoda theory as well I think [TS]

  haha that twitter account one perfect [TS]

  shot that would be that would be a yes [TS]

  that I think absolutely totally how do [TS]

  you like that and that's right around [TS]

  the scene i'm not sure exactly [TS]

  chronologically where do else's is [TS]

  telling the bedtime story and they have [TS]

  that shared closet and 80 and Elliot the [TS]

  world is right for them as they sit [TS]

  there and listen to the mother tell a [TS]

  bedtime story is very sweet kind of [TS]

  where things start to go wrong [TS]

  yeah of course yeah is that are they [TS]

  doing like that like Peter Pan [TS]

  yeah it's going to be your plan and it's [TS]

  the part where they're talking about you [TS]

  know clapping and believing in other [TS]

  ways to to bring them back to life which [TS]

  is you know automatically appropriate [TS]

  given the end of the movie and in a way [TS]

  it's the moment when the adults start [TS]

  sort of intruding and getting in the way [TS]

  alright so here we go it's time to [TS]

  detect some frogs at solo I guess I mean [TS]

  did anybody else dissect frogs at that [TS]

  young age [TS]

  he's like 10 I yeah Julian's 12 and they [TS]

  did frog dissection [TS]

  yeah that's we did it when it was in [TS]

  seventh grade and I i did pretend to be [TS]

  sick to get out of it is 7th grade how [TS]

  old you are when you're bringing your 10 [TS]

  because i also did it in no 10 10 is [TS]

  fifth grade if you if he's truly 10 [TS]

  years old I'm not sure it's at his age [TS]

  never specified to even the actor was 10 [TS]

  e week we could we get that I think [TS]

  they're suggesting he's yeah i mean old [TS]

  enough to to to have a girl he likes and [TS]

  dissect a frog as it was handed down as [TS]

  a tradition from the olden times as my [TS]

  younger son loves to point out he always [TS]

  remembers when his older brother was in [TS]

  fifth grade and they got to dissect owl [TS]

  poop that was the most exciting thing [TS]

  for like three years [TS]

  haha yeah but this little when you [TS]

  dissected frogs little bit anybody have [TS]

  to kill frog no entiendo [TS]

  no they were already dead that mean I [TS]

  that's the by get over that was the [TS]

  creepiest part that within that was sort [TS]

  of the ok this sort of this the sort of [TS]

  priests ages what's going to happen when [TS]

  the agents come to investigate ET but [TS]

  it'sit's chicos dissection get it really [TS]

  is but yeah I would I would I had the [TS]

  already the pre dead formaldehyde and [TS]

  frogs not they kill them your self put [TS]

  the drop the cotton ball in there and [TS]

  they'll just go to sleep yeah it's [TS]

  pretty gruesome and I don't know if they [TS]

  ever did it that way or that's just a [TS]

  construction in order to have them be [TS]

  freed by Elliot but before we get to [TS]

  Elliot freeing them we have to talk [TS]

  about what he's doing it this time which [TS]

  motivates the memories hungry and [TS]

  thirsty so he's gonna he's gonna drink [TS]

  beer but he doesn't like potato salad [TS]

  that's no good and he just reads the [TS]

  fridge i love the way the dog has [TS]

  finally accepted et is just part of the [TS]

  family now because he's just doesn't [TS]

  follow submitted the kitchen full of [TS]

  hope that potato salad which he does [TS]

  because ET might drop some food [TS]

  yeah and he does it because he's [TS]

  emailing and he's calling his little [TS]

  clumsy but this is where we see that uh [TS]

  that a that et is connected with Elliot [TS]

  because I Elliot is feeling the effects [TS]

  of ET drinking the beer Elliot burps [TS]

  Elliot's acting wacky and then [TS]

  eventually Elliot decides to free all [TS]

  the frogs and and and have them be able [TS]

  to turn them loose in the classroom and [TS]

  out of the classroom and starts a more [TS]

  madness more more another wacky scene [TS]

  where kids are running around crazy and [TS]

  delightfully he he ends up mirroring the [TS]

  movie that's on the television back home [TS]

  kissing the girl in his class the blonde [TS]

  girl in a in a romantic gesture as the [TS]

  frogs all leap around behind them [TS]

  it's stepping on the kid crawling by so [TS]

  we can reach up to her lips [TS]

  yeah and his future playboy playmate [TS]

  Erica alenia and Baywatch co-star LOL [TS]

  Erica alright yeah you know I enjoyed [TS]

  that seen as a kid but I think I enjoy [TS]

  it more now as an adult [TS]

  that every time it just delights me [TS]

  what's charming and it's it and its [TS]

  total magic realism at this point [TS]

  because there weren't that many frogs in [TS]

  the room at first and all of a sudden [TS]

  it's biblical [TS]

  that's what made the William scores like [TS]

  classic Hollywood it swelling and then [TS]

  yeah it's great [TS]

  yeah so some other things that are [TS]

  happening here so so I i enjoy there's a [TS]

  there's a telephone add that BTW watches [TS]

  he looks at the buck rogers comic strip [TS]

  he's putting together a way of [TS]

  communicating what he wants to do in [TS]

  terms of giving you are using a phone [TS]

  and and reaching a spaceship and all of [TS]

  that so you see sort of like the the [TS]

  building of the of the lexicon hear the [TS]

  let's see uh the guy [TS]

  Gertie is watching Sesame Street so he [TS]

  learns from he learns from that while [TS]

  he's also reading the buck rogers comic [TS]

  strip and if somewhere around here is [TS]

  also where mom mom comes home while et [TS]

  is wandering around and that's this led [TS]

  some like for almost farce of you know [TS]

  him moving around and she's moving [TS]

  around she doesn't see him which is [TS]

  pretty amazing [TS]

  mhm she opened the refrigerator door and [TS]

  he just topples over has just glorious [TS]

  like fucking looking down that far that [TS]

  was another one of my favorite blueberry [TS]

  more moments the man in the moon but I [TS]

  think you might have already killed him [TS]

  she's just so blase about it well I [TS]

  guess maybe you'll get to meet him after [TS]

  all she get the phone call from the [TS]

  school and the line that I thought that [TS]

  I didn't ever notice before but I that I [TS]

  i caught this time is you hear her say [TS]

  at one point i am not paying for frogs [TS]

  yeah that's that's when I think we [TS]

  should take some home that's what she [TS]

  says I drivers where I draw the line [TS]

  yeah that's right and we get it we gotta [TS]

  be good in here to be good [TS]

  so the learning of how et is learning [TS]

  how to communicate with with the humans [TS]

  now thanks to his maybe not the drinking [TS]

  beer but the watching TV and and [TS]

  listening to Gert he's he's starting to [TS]

  put it together [TS]

  Nelly comes home oh I i have another [TS]

  great line that i wrote down because it [TS]

  was great [TS]

  I taught him how to talk now we can talk [TS]

  now in Italy it's just so offended i [TS]

  think because she makes so much more [TS]

  progress [TS]

  yeah and and she dressy dress them up [TS]

  and she dressed in my bow god yeah that [TS]

  alien he's gonna he's gonna be treated [TS]

  like a like a like a dress-up doll [TS]

  that's fine it's adorable and a spy van [TS]

  rolls through the neighborhood I just [TS]

  throw that into meanwhile the [TS]

  government's by vans are on the move [TS]

  they're getting closer every I again as [TS]

  a kid I don't think I noticed this but [TS]

  you notice it as an adult watching it [TS]

  like every time we see them there that [TS]

  much closer it's like incremental e [TS]

  closer to the house they're figuring it [TS]

  out and listening to everybody on the [TS]

  blogs into all the conversations that's [TS]

  right including the ones that are [TS]

  characters are are having but you know [TS]

  can you really tell if somebody was [TS]

  talking to an alien in one house on the [TS]

  block and you could listen in would you [TS]

  know they were talking to an alien or [TS]

  about an alien i don't know that i can [TS]

  tell my kids safe kids now the [TS]

  government doesn't need a van to listen [TS]

  to you and that's about the time that [TS]

  they're putting together the machine to [TS]

  yes it's time to build a phone to phone [TS]

  home we've got the Speak & Spell we got [TS]

  the we got the umbrella [TS]

  we gotta can aluminum foil ya again [TS]

  aliens a saw blade a whole bunch of [TS]

  wires [TS]

  yep its technical and it's wind-powered [TS]

  apparently right because it's the the [TS]

  the blowing tree doing that structure [TS]

  chunk with the saw blade right yellow [TS]

  rain right but the one they're [TS]

  collecting the tools is also when you [TS]

  get the big conversation between Elliot [TS]

  Michael about their father and that's [TS]

  the first time you really have any [TS]

  disguise have him in the movie yeah and [TS]

  it it doesn't really it it doesn't [TS]

  really inform the poor push the plot but [TS]

  it gets the it gets that mood across [TS]

  although with i'm not sure that if I'd [TS]

  been in that situation I would have [TS]

  talked about old spice or sea breeze or [TS]

  whatever you know the the scent of the [TS]

  shirt that might not have been where I [TS]

  would have gone [TS]

  yeah if you were too sentimental guy but [TS]

  again you know this is one of the [TS]

  reasons i love the movie is but yes it [TS]

  has a plot [TS]

  yes the plot moves but the whole movie [TS]

  is not about the plot it's a [TS]

  out getting getting to spend time with [TS]

  these characters and that is really a [TS]

  hallmark of seventies and eighties early [TS]

  eighties films that I kind of Miss these [TS]

  days I kind of Miss but you know we have [TS]

  to have continuous moving and plots and [TS]

  explosions and you know i'd like to get [TS]

  to know these characters because that's [TS]

  you know what the difference between all [TS]

  the different aliens with kids movies [TS]

  are the characters you know you could [TS]

  argue that the plot that there's another [TS]

  movie going on that they much more [TS]

  conventional movie which is government [TS]

  scientists try to find a runaway alien [TS]

  on earth [TS]

  yes haha and yes ET what we get is [TS]

  occasionally we will cut away and see [TS]

  that movie is continuing and that's like [TS]

  the plot and it's like the kids are are [TS]

  playing with their alien friend and [TS]

  there's two there's some plot here right [TS]

  because they're there they're learning [TS]

  but it feels like too much more [TS]

  conventional plot is happening somewhere [TS]

  else and occasionally we see that it's [TS]

  progressing and then eventually at the [TS]

  end of the movie it collides with this [TS]

  movie and they have to deal with it and [TS]

  it's ok for that to happen [TS]

  enter to be so oblique because we [TS]

  already know have that plot works [TS]

  exactly [TS]

  we don't we don't have to see it in [TS]

  detail and then say the third plot is [TS]

  you know a family is trying to get blown [TS]

  up families trying to deal with it yeah [TS]

  right which-- which you just don't get [TS]

  in the kids movie these days I don't [TS]

  think you know not really that would [TS]

  have been covered [TS]

  yeah this is where we learning he's got [TS]

  healing powers to write do we well he [TS]

  made that he made of the flower come [TS]

  back to life [TS]

  no no any he gets a cut on his finger [TS]

  right knee heals the cut is I think [TS]

  blows his fingertip gets all glowy [TS]

  salient have powers man powers weird [TS]

  things that's right [TS]

  halloween and somebody dressed up so [TS]

  what do you do when you've got an alien [TS]

  you take them out of all the days you [TS]

  could take about an alien and say look [TS]

  at my friend he looks like an alien but [TS]

  now they put a sheet on him cuz my holes [TS]

  and say yeah totally [TS]

  yeah it's really it's really ingenious I [TS]

  i love that I love the scene where uh [TS]

  mom is just a little too excited little [TS]

  to overall emotionally overwrought over [TS]

  how cute the kids look in their [TS]

  halloween costumes and snap the picture [TS]

  and stuns ET immediately [TS]

  but this this movie is really good for [TS]

  falling over gags seems like the moms a [TS]

  little it to me [TS]

  sure okay haha Jenna and I do love that [TS]

  drew barrymore just getting pissed off [TS]

  and pacing anything for them [TS]

  yeah and then ET I finally allowed to [TS]

  walk out in the world and he sees a [TS]

  world where people are dressed in these [TS]

  totally weird things and then at one [TS]

  point he sees it somebody in Yoda [TS]

  costume and thanks haha one of my people [TS]

  and it's gonna it's gonna chase after [TS]

  Yoda and then they have to kind of like [TS]

  steer him away because the golden music [TS]

  at that point turns to Yoda's theme from [TS]

  Star Wars and john williams world that [TS]

  right in its great and that was because [TS]

  i remember seeing it like either opening [TS]

  weekend or the weekend after and that [TS]

  was the hugest react yes i agree movie [TS]

  agreed the the room went bananas i [TS]

  remember that memories from 1982 it's [TS]

  funny yeah Elliot and ETR off on their [TS]

  bike on on Elliot's bike they they're [TS]

  joined at this point it's their bike in [TS]

  order to deploy the the phoning home and [TS]

  we see our first instance of flying [TS]

  bikes i had forgotten that the flying [TS]

  bike happened so early in the film I was [TS]

  just remembering the later instance but [TS]

  then I just realize it's checkout slide [TS]

  like that's right and Elliot is coughing [TS]

  this is the this is our first sign that [TS]

  eet is getting sick he wakes up and et [TS]

  is gone they have to search for him [TS]

  Elliot's getting sick Michael finds ET [TS]

  this is grim stuff Michael finds eat and [TS]

  all kind of gray and and laying in a [TS]

  land in the water [TS]

  yeah being like snuffled by a raccoon [TS]

  what gets with reason there's a raccoon [TS]

  yeah the last thing you can't defend [TS]

  yourself from raccoons bad man out of it [TS]

  i heard the helicopter coming in and I [TS]

  was not remembering the movie pretty [TS]

  well i was thinking that this would be [TS]

  the moment when uh you know the [TS]

  the government agents swooped in and [TS]

  grab him but it's not quite that grim [TS]

  but throughout this movie all the way up [TS]

  to this point you know I I feel like [TS]

  Elliott and Michael and even greater you [TS]

  know they know the kind of movie that [TS]

  they're in possibly before they're [TS]

  supposed to they they figure I think [TS]

  they they they surmise that et is an [TS]

  alien they surmise that the government [TS]

  agents are going to come in and swoop in [TS]

  and pick them up and and all the stores [TS]

  the sort of thing they've got to keep [TS]

  them away from the adults they don't [TS]

  ever consider that no getting an adult [TS]

  to help out would be a good idea which [TS]

  is very prescient considering what [TS]

  happens but that's that's one of the [TS]

  things that I have trouble with about [TS]

  the movie is that they know which movie [TS]

  there in just immediately [TS]

  yeah it's so this is a so now the link [TS]

  obviously that things start to move [TS]

  really fast at this point this is where [TS]

  we get weird with were sick I think [TS]

  we're dying where Elliot is now [TS]

  referring to them as a as a unit and the [TS]

  mothers holding the coffee and she just [TS]

  lets go and you just she slowly pours it [TS]

  out onto the floor [TS]

  that's great because my actions smart [TS]

  thing and it's so believable that when [TS]

  they're getting really sick okay it's [TS]

  time to bring mom in on this [TS]

  yeah yeah and it and it and of course it [TS]

  doesn't work out that well because mom [TS]

  is justifiably freaked out about this [TS]

  and she wants to protect her kids from [TS]

  the scary space alien and then she [TS]

  almost immediately discovers that she's [TS]

  just as much as at threat and that the [TS]

  that's a dangerous situation for [TS]

  everybody as well because it's you know [TS]

  knock knock astronaut calling yeah okay [TS]

  so something alright i love i love it i [TS]

  love this movie but here it is [TS]

  yeah but this is this is weird and I [TS]

  feel almost died not knowing the story [TS]

  behind this [TS]

  I feel like almost that this was [TS]

  somebody's an image somebody had in a [TS]

  dream or in a sketch that they made or [TS]

  something like that which is like you [TS]

  know you open the door [TS]

  and there are astronauts standing [TS]

  outside because it feels very dreamlike [TS]

  and one of the reasons that feels [TS]

  dreamlike is it doesn't make any sense [TS]

  that people that people would be wearing [TS]

  like Apollo astronaut suits and they're [TS]

  going through the mini blinds to that [TS]

  one got me as a kid I'm like wow yeah [TS]

  and not only that but just parked [TS]

  walking with arms outstretched I mean [TS]

  like a scooby-doo villain [TS]

  yeah I mean I i get that they're [TS]

  supposed to be like hazmat suit but they [TS]

  have has been suits in this movie and [TS]

  these are not separate thing [TS]

  yeah exactly and it is it's bizarre [TS]

  again I I feel like what this is is it's [TS]

  it's scary and a weird creepy indelible [TS]

  image and all of those things are true [TS]

  all of those things are true and yet [TS]

  it's sort of weird the evil space aliens [TS]

  you know I think that's that that's part [TS]

  of the that that's part of the message [TS]

  you [TS]

  they come in with their NASA patches and [TS]

  their big gold advisors but they're the [TS]

  scary ones you know they're the aliens [TS]

  and the folks inside the house including [TS]

  ET or not [TS]

  yeah and you get the desired effect but [TS]

  the interesting thing is that's it [TS]

  I mean that's the only scary because the [TS]

  next thing you see there there's got him [TS]

  in a hospital bed and they've got a [TS]

  bunch of doctors taking care of them and [TS]

  it's like they didn't go anywhere with [TS]

  that I think for grades just another [TS]

  example of sacrificing realism to make [TS]

  something that looks cool [TS]

  yeah and amp up the drama i wrote down [TS]

  fun image but why it's like that it's [TS]

  like it is a fun image and that's what [TS]

  and you know what [TS]

  it's a great image and I remember it i [TS]

  will say this I'll give him the movie [TS]

  credit the movie never tries to do like [TS]

  a lot of work to explain that image it [TS]

  just moves on which is good because i [TS]

  would say a lesser movie would build all [TS]

  sorts of dialogue about why it was the [TS]

  way it was and things like that it's [TS]

  like now just do not know forget it you [TS]

  saw it we we moved on and now we're in a [TS]

  hospital setup and the people have some [TS]

  some like hospital gowns and hazmat [TS]

  suits and no nobody is an Apollo [TS]

  astronaut anymore I mean if you want to [TS]

  go for the magic realism [TS]

  and the dreamlike logic I mean for the [TS]

  characters in the house yet it it just [TS]

  something totally scary is happening and [TS]

  they don't understand what's going on [TS]

  okay sure but as as a movie that we are [TS]

  watching it's like oh right yeah you [TS]

  could definitely argue that it's like [TS]

  from their perspective it is this then [TS]

  their people then people showed up at [TS]

  the door wearing these crazy suits and [TS]

  they were everywhere and we were [TS]

  freaking out right and this is a this is [TS]

  an illustration of that even though they [TS]

  were really hazmat suits and make they [TS]

  were coming through the blinds but it [TS]

  felt like that and that's and the movies [TS]

  trying to get across that feeling [TS]

  it's just that it's just stopped me cold [TS]

  every time when it's like mad bass been [TS]

  it then it goes even further and the [TS]

  house gets a gets given the breaking bad [TS]

  treatment interest rate gets tented [TS]

  everybody's got everybody's bringing [TS]

  their oxygen with them for a longer time [TS]

  yeah and and you know the point is this [TS]

  is not your house anymore you this is [TS]

  not your home anymore it we we are [TS]

  taking it over because this thing that [TS]

  you have is so scary and unknown keys [TS]

  sees this as an opportunity to learn [TS]

  yes but everybody else is following it [TS]

  everybody still follow following the the [TS]

  government bureaucracy military model [TS]

  here of take it take control of the [TS]

  situation take charge and fear and fear [TS]

  right if your children are open and [TS]

  curious and enthusiastic and the [TS]

  grown-ups are afraid [TS]

  yeah i was actually perfectly fine with [TS]

  them tending the house and stuff I mean [TS]

  that seems like a logical thing to do [TS]

  do you have you know if possible really [TS]

  make sense from another planet that the [TS]

  thing that got me was how quick they [TS]

  were to just discard that like inside [TS]

  yeah you know after after et's dead [TS]

  suddenly everybody's taking off all [TS]

  their masks he could be worse after he's [TS]

  dead you don't know anything about him [TS]

  to explode and release boards that turn [TS]

  you into an ETA for all you know you [TS]

  have no ec2 even then he would be the [TS]

  real monster there you go [TS]

  that won't happen if they fed him after [TS]

  midnight yeah Peter Coyote gets to talk [TS]

  now he we've been seeing him do a lot of [TS]

  him acting basically [TS]

  haha really but frankly acting but uh [TS]

  but we get to hear Peter Coyote who is [TS]

  it's fun [TS]

  he's a fun actor and he he says Elliot [TS]

  I've been to the forest which I really [TS]

  love that I love that moment what's he [TS]

  doing there any it is like he's he's [TS]

  still threatening I as an outsider but [TS]

  at the same time you get the sense that [TS]

  he's you know I don't know he's starting [TS]

  to make a connection and we and we and [TS]

  we begin to appreciate a little bit more [TS]

  about about what's going on here ways [TS]

  he's able to say I get it I kinda know [TS]

  what what's going on [TS]

  yeah it's okay to talk to me exact he's [TS]

  one of us just to a certain extent right [TS]

  yeah yeah he still grown-up who has a [TS]

  job to do but he at least empathize and [TS]

  lots of doors unlock and I thought that [TS]

  was just a really good bit of acting by [TS]

  henry thomas that the kid playing Elliot [TS]

  at that part of that he was that really [TS]

  stands up forget every time it has to [TS]

  have to carry a whole lot of this movie [TS]

  and I doesn't doesn't print you know he [TS]

  does a pretty darn good job [TS]

  he's one of the reasons this movie is a [TS]

  success he was he was 11 when this movie [TS]

  came out so presumably 10-11 when they [TS]

  shot it and he does a pretty amazing job [TS]

  I gotta say yeah mhm I'm usually not i'm [TS]

  kinda like Lisa and then i'm not a fan [TS]

  of child actors in general but i do [TS]

  think that Henry Thomas is spent I mean [TS]

  they really just to shop for the moon [TS]

  here Ben and hid it because you get [TS]

  Henry Thomas and drew barrymore up in [TS]

  the same film [TS]

  no wonder it was a blockbuster yeah yeah [TS]

  yeahs alligators in the sewers [TS]

  this is the moment where ET dies then [TS]

  and everybody leaves the theater sad [TS]

  right well so I a moment that I really [TS]

  love is a science-fiction fan in this [TS]

  movie is there's that moment where they [TS]

  keep showing their charts and they're [TS]

  both getting more and more sick and then [TS]

  and then their their vitals begin to [TS]

  diverge from one another and he said you [TS]

  know he and and so suddenly Elliot any t [TS]

  have set have separated and Elliot is [TS]

  sort of shouting and at you can as a as [TS]

  a non you know science fiction literate [TS]

  filmgoer you don't even need to really [TS]

  get that but I i love that because this [TS]

  is [TS]

  they have all of the signs are there [TS]

  from when they first attached to this [TS]

  moment which is this is ET detaching [TS]

  from Elliot so that he doesn't take him [TS]

  down with him [TS]

  yeah but when i when i saw this this was [TS]

  the one moment in when i was young that [TS]

  I sobbed like a baby [TS]

  it is gut-wrenching when Elliot screams [TS]

  you're killing him you're killin ya and [TS]

  they aren't listening to him that was [TS]

  utterly painful for me back then now I [TS]

  was pretty sensitive back then Mike when [TS]

  I wept buckets over Snoopy go home soon [TS]

  become home but uh but in this case you [TS]

  know his helplessness and his inability [TS]

  to stop the adults from doing something [TS]

  all fall they're doing all the wrong [TS]

  things in their in their Palace effort [TS]

  to save the alien except i don't i don't [TS]

  think they are [TS]

  I really don't i think they're trying [TS]

  their best to save him and at that point [TS]

  he's adapted he's detached so he has no [TS]

  idea that that what they're doing so I I [TS]

  honestly don't think that they are what [TS]

  skilled killing ET at all i think he was [TS]

  just dying anyway and that's why he [TS]

  detached and there's nothing that we do [TS]

  for it [TS]

  yeah exactly so they're doing their best [TS]

  and you know they had that which is [TS]

  another reason i think that Jason was [TS]

  his observation right at the beginning [TS]

  with was so real and so right on is that [TS]

  there's there's really no bad guy even [TS]

  even in this scene where these are sort [TS]

  of the scary people and it's in this you [TS]

  know this is a whole section of the [TS]

  movie I did not remember out of the [TS]

  hospital type stuff and even even these [TS]

  people are actually they have a tease [TS]

  best interests at heart we are trying to [TS]

  save desperately right yeah a little kid [TS]

  who is just so scared that and he just [TS]

  doesn't understand what's happening that [TS]

  he assumes that that they're hurting him [TS]

  even though it's not really the case i [TS]

  think i agree i don't i don't even [TS]

  necessarily think that Elliot believes [TS]

  that they are intentionally trying to [TS]

  kill him I just think he believes that [TS]

  they're screwing it up and he's lost [TS]

  that agents and he's been et's protector [TS]

  yeah and now he is not and i think [TS]

  that's a big red of ye that was the [TS]

  thing that really destroyed me and he [TS]

  feels powerless about it I soju 1982 was [TS]

  a real bumper [TS]

  a bumper time for me crying and movie [TS]

  theaters because you know starter to [TS]

  came out the week before my way and that [TS]

  is the most i've ever cried in a movie [TS]

  theater when Spock dies spoilers for [TS]

  start-ups black eyes and and uh yeah I [TS]

  know and then ET 80 dies in in ET and [TS]

  it's very sad and I and and that was [TS]

  like came out a week later I don't know [TS]

  if I saw the week they came out pretty [TS]

  soon thereafter right i saw both those [TS]

  movies in quick succession and remember [TS]

  just bawling at both following my [TS]

  eleven-year-old eyes right out [TS]

  so yeah so chip yep that's it so you [TS]

  basically went to ET died you just [TS]

  couldn't take anymore you left the [TS]

  theater and and and and that was the end [TS]

  of movie night [TS]

  yeah goodnight everybody so then it [TS]

  turns out ET the the the flower comes [TS]

  back to life and it turns out the dt is [TS]

  not dead after all [TS]

  all he needed to do was be stuck in the [TS]

  fridge for years i have thought that [TS]

  this is nonsensical and a ripoff and [TS]

  shameless and manipulative but it's not [TS]

  i have come all the way back around on [TS]

  this which is our i will cite my [TS]

  previous statements about aliens which [TS]

  is he's an alien [TS]

  I don't know what he's doing here we [TS]

  assume he's dying he's probably putting [TS]

  himself in some sort of hibernation or [TS]

  stasis until his people come to get him [TS]

  at which point he wakes up [TS]

  which he does because they do right so I [TS]

  I'm willing even though it's never [TS]

  explained I i originally felt kind of [TS]

  negative about it but now I feel like [TS]

  he's an alien [TS]

  we know we shouldn't put our labels on [TS]

  him is that is that how you feel about [TS]

  this error occurred you have some other [TS]

  reason why this is I've been pretty [TS]

  pretty close to that because I like i [TS]

  said not remembering this I I was [TS]

  starting to feel the same way that you [TS]

  originally did I was like oh my god is [TS]

  this the end of the matrix again we love [TS]

  conquers all and that's what is it like [TS]

  it's a crying boy and suddenly he's [TS]

  better and i was i was getting ready to [TS]

  be very grumpy with this film but then [TS]

  know when his his little heart thing [TS]

  starts glowing one of the very first [TS]

  questions that that he had that kid asks [TS]

  is are your people coming back and he [TS]

  says yes so I think it's very clearly [TS]

  laid out that the reason that he is is [TS]

  getting better is because his people are [TS]

  close enough that he's able to have this [TS]

  connection [TS]

  I mean they show at the very big [TS]

  getting of the film that like when when [TS]

  one person's heart lights up all of [TS]

  their hearts light up and that's how do [TS]

  you know they are connected in some way [TS]

  and I i assume that that's y et started [TS]

  dying in the first place because he had [TS]

  been disconnected from his people for so [TS]

  long and and they were so far away [TS]

  yeah they got close enough that he was [TS]

  he was able to revive I mean that I do [TS]

  believe that the alien know he's an [TS]

  alien so we don't necessarily know what [TS]

  being dead means for an alien I mean [TS]

  maybe if he would have stayed like that [TS]

  longer he would have actually died in [TS]

  this was just nick of time they don't [TS]

  explain that but but yeah he's an alien [TS]

  he needs people close to get to Alpha [TS]

  Centauri and they're like a is where [TS]

  sparkly so now yeah that's right we [TS]

  gotta turn around and go back and we're [TS]

  getting a signal that's really weird [TS]

  it's like somebody put this together [TS]

  with a tin can and and sustained foil [TS]

  and a and and some string a circular saw [TS]

  so then we get wacky breakout action [TS]

  seem that happens which is funny and [TS]

  this is the part that I had forgotten [TS]

  all the details of but it all came back [TS]

  to me as I'm watching we get the they [TS]

  figured they figure they have to break [TS]

  out they steal a van that's got the [TS]

  plastic tube on the end and there's a [TS]

  guy in it for a while and then and then [TS]

  he finally they finally disconnected and [TS]

  and and reject him that there's a great [TS]

  line in here where Mike is Michael is [TS]

  driving the van and [TS]

  driving the van and [TS]

  and they equally questions is driving [TS]

  and he says look I've never driven [TS]

  forward before because we only see them [TS]

  backing the earlier and backing a car [TS]

  down the driveway for for his mom and [TS]

  then I said al I've always liked this [TS]

  post to the park and he was not to get [TS]

  there because mom always try yeah yeah [TS]

  that's right they get there on the bikes [TS]

  and the bikes can go all sorts of places [TS]

  the car seat so you think you get this [TS]

  the cars are chasing them and they get [TS]

  they get on they get on their bikes [TS]

  there's a another great line is katie [TS]

  just beam up this is reality Greg week [TS]

  after Star Trek that's amazing [TS]

  so then there's a bike chase the cars [TS]

  are going around the bikes are chasing [TS]

  around it so it's really a pretty great [TS]

  little bit of scenery where the bikes [TS]

  are trying to go like they go down like [TS]

  down the side of one house and then come [TS]

  out but the cars are right there like [TS]

  that wasn't they couldn't lose them [TS]

  there and it's it's really good but [TS]

  eventually they are cropped they're [TS]

  caught and they can't escape the cars [TS]

  their cars in front of them and cars [TS]

  behind them and they will never be able [TS]

  to get ET to safety so so they're more [TS]

  flying bikes and answer your question [TS]

  from earlier this is where i lost my and [TS]

  I felt like most of the theater did too [TS]

  i mean it was because there was so much [TS]

  tension the music the way they're doing [TS]

  the camera zooms and suddenly they start [TS]

  flying in the music swells and madden it [TS]

  just was awesome [TS]

  I i moved out loud I don't know if I've [TS]

  ever done that in a movie when it [TS]

  happened I just couldn't control my room [TS]

  my friend was sitting next to me look at [TS]

  me like what the hell's wrong with you [TS]

  oh I didn't even mention the fake out [TS]

  right before then what happens is they [TS]

  break into the clear and they're like we [TS]

  made it and then immediately there are [TS]

  people all around them in the cars [TS]

  coming that's when they fly so it's [TS]

  super ratcheting up tensions like it's [TS]

  almost like a jump-scare and then they [TS]

  and then they fly is terrible it's [TS]

  hysterically funny you know he dudes [TS]

  like in dudes cocky yeah we did it and [TS]

  then there's all the people because you [TS]

  know you just trying to escape your kids [TS]

  trying to bike away from a major [TS]

  international global incident that your [TS]

  government is on top of I think it might [TS]

  be hard to bike away from that kids but [TS]

  they think they make sure i can fly but [TS]

  if your bike and fly it helps a little [TS]

  bit so they fly their bikes in front of [TS]

  the moon [TS]

  because you gotta have that you know a [TS]

  bad man fly since the everybody flies [TS]

  there things in front of the moon is [TS]

  what I'm saying Batman flies a little [TS]

  bat playing in front of the Moon ET [TS]

  flies his bike in front of the Moon you [TS]

  gotta get that good shot in your movie [TS]

  if you're going to fly and the moon is [TS]

  really have that opportunity you you [TS]

  don't pass that is it a full moon got [TS]

  what we gotta do it then right i mean [TS]

  we're lucky this moon this movie [TS]

  happened during a full moon and not like [TS]

  a like a crescent moon or something with [TS]

  nearly as good [TS]

  why don't these things ever happened [TS]

  during like the waning quarter mood [TS]

  crazy stuff happens during the full moon [TS]

  David that's the ladies they do those [TS]

  movies those movies just never get made [TS]

  because we want to see those yeah [TS]

  exactly right you just see the edge of [TS]

  the bicycle wheel and that's it so they [TS]

  reach the forest and the spaceship comes [TS]

  down and is there you the ket your ride [TS]

  is here [TS]

  his heart glow it's a hell of an uber [TS]

  for all of the this is another sort of [TS]

  sweet adorable thing about that for all [TS]

  of the tension of the chase scene once [TS]

  they get there and it's clear that he's [TS]

  going to get back on the spaceship [TS]

  everybody comes and stands there and [TS]

  watches and they take their time saying [TS]

  goodbye it's fine it's all and that's an [TS]

  another example of sacrificing reality [TS]

  to make it the the feel what you want it [TS]

  to be because the timing just does does [TS]

  not quite work [TS]

  I just had like people are showing up at [TS]

  at times that you know that work well [TS]

  for the narrative not so much when they [TS]

  would have actually gotten there [TS]

  yeah how is it that Mary and keys get [TS]

  there and none of the other pursuing law [TS]

  enforcement officers do things like that [TS]

  has been to the forest and Gertie gets [TS]

  there first but she was with her mom so [TS]

  she runs in way before her mom and keys [TS]

  do so what did what are they doing [TS]

  apartment car time there parking Carly [TS]

  dropped kandi off to get there [TS]

  oh but it's and it's very much of a [TS]

  piece with the end of Close Encounters [TS]

  yeah it's again it isn't it it's a it's [TS]

  a nice emotional finish even even if [TS]

  it's not your logical it's almost like [TS]

  yeah I i hate to say this but you know [TS]

  it's kind of like the end of a play [TS]

  where everybody comes out the stage and [TS]

  vows this is like everybody gets their [TS]

  chance to have a moment with ET before [TS]

  ET leaves we all wanted we want to have [TS]

  the emotional emotional fulfilling and [TS]

  we don't want to have dirty as last time [TS]

  she sees ET [TS]

  he be when he's dead or anything like [TS]

  that and they said no no no he came back [TS]

  to life and flew back to his planet is [TS]

  like I don't know if I believe you see [TS]

  he's like my puppy is on a farm he went [TS]

  to reform upstate [TS]

  he's fine a planet upstate but it is [TS]

  satisfied that was totally emotional [TS]

  don't miss this movie makes i mean i [TS]

  think what we've been saying is there [TS]

  are times in this movie we're in it i [TS]

  think consciously makes the decision to [TS]

  go for the emotionally satisfying or or [TS]

  resident image instead of it being like [TS]

  supremely logical and that gives you the [TS]

  fairytale aspect yeah i mean if everyone [TS]

  talks about it as a science fiction [TS]

  movie and you know it one what saturn [TS]

  awards and all these things and you know [TS]

  it's like oh it's the greatest science [TS]

  fiction film ever made and no it's a [TS]

  very tip yeah it's a fairy tale with the [TS]

  science-fiction elements [TS]

  yeah it's an alien fairy tail fairy tale [TS]

  about namely growing up with a Catholic [TS]

  theologian in the house this movie I [TS]

  mean without even having the [TS]

  conversation I'm already going wow [TS]

  that's a lot of Judeo Christian imagery [TS]

  holy cats because you know it's the [TS]

  dying and the sacrificing to save the [TS]

  human and then rising up surprising it [TS]

  again and then going up into the heavens [TS]

  and but it's never showing up in a [TS]

  shroud when they open up the back of the [TS]

  van [TS]

  the Shroud of ET its kind available but [TS]

  you know it's never heavy-handed about [TS]

  it's never like hey we're going to use [TS]

  this imagery whom you know it is very [TS]

  light and I feel more like it's it's [TS]

  it's steven spielberg rifling through [TS]

  the imagery drawer and knowing you know [TS]

  it is yes is ET meant to be Jesus no [TS]

  buts ET s ET storyline is meant to eat [TS]

  evoke things that can be revoked using [TS]

  imagery that lots of people are familiar [TS]

  with right it's sort of the reverse it's [TS]

  like we it's in our cultural programming [TS]

  now and those are those are things that [TS]

  can be played and Exploited and used by [TS]

  the stream movies telling and and just [TS]

  like that [TS]

  parallel science fiction movie about [TS]

  hunting the alien we don't need all of [TS]

  those details because we get it yeah and [TS]

  we can focus on the characters like Andy [TS]

  takes the the flower that came back to [TS]

  life and that's the one that he takes on [TS]

  the spaceship is like I got my flour [TS]

  because he is a botanist right I feel [TS]

  like they were collecting samples at the [TS]

  yeah this rapture one that's pretty [TS]

  potted yeah that was that was the one he [TS]

  was he was left behind because he was [TS]

  trying to collect yeah i got my flour [TS]

  I got it I got a new kind of flower pot [TS]

  that's perfect [TS]

  I my I mean that's the kid that's [TS]

  another cute aspect of it goes back to [TS]

  me saying ET may not be a very good [TS]

  officer on this spaceship is like I [TS]

  these aliens are kind of adorable like [TS]

  they really care about plants and that's [TS]

  their thing and hand each other [TS]

  yeah I'll at all of all the way back at [TS]

  the beginning of the movie there's the [TS]

  one still waiting there at the door on [TS]

  the word me to come back [TS]

  yeah and then and then he when he's had [TS]

  a great adventure and he says goodbye to [TS]

  all of his friends and he says you know [TS]

  I'll be right here we get that it so the [TS]

  the tears come to my comeback right then [TS]

  has a little glowing finger and all that [TS]

  but then he takes his plant and goes [TS]

  away [TS]

  ok come on plant I'm good and that's [TS]

  just I i love i love that aspect of it [TS]

  to that it's just like in the end [TS]

  why did he come and visit us he wanted [TS]

  some plants become what he does he does [TS]

  invite Elliot to go along with that's [TS]

  true yeah that's a really really [TS]

  touching moment and I think like you can [TS]

  cut it i think e.t knew that he wasn't [TS]

  going to be able to go along with him [TS]

  for the same reason that et is not able [TS]

  to stay right on it would hurt his heart [TS]

  if he was away from those people [TS]

  exactly yeah and so the spaceship takes [TS]

  off and departs by rainbow for other [TS]

  planets using the rainbow they engage [TS]

  the rainbow dr ya gotta install one of [TS]

  those in my car show [TS]

  rainbow drive and they're gone get to [TS]

  get back to the fairytale aspects like [TS]

  why would it not leave on a rainbow [TS]

  come on that's right yeah that's it and [TS]

  the music swells and that's the end of [TS]

  ET NE gets home and everybody's happy [TS]

  except maybe the mom but I think maybe [TS]

  her faith in humanity is restored or [TS]

  something like that let's hope let's [TS]

  hope it gets better for diwali and you [TS]

  know you gotta think that an experience [TS]

  like this is going to bring [TS]

  therefore their family together so you [TS]

  know maybe they'll have a stronger bond [TS]

  because they have gone through all of [TS]

  this and things will change for them [TS]

  plus you know the government smashing [TS]

  through their windows and tended their [TS]

  house they're probably going to get some [TS]

  sort of you know phenotype settlement i [TS]

  would think maybe yeah well yeah they're [TS]

  gonna they're gonna be famous and and [TS]

  and the dad is not is just out of the [TS]

  picture so he's going to talk show [TS]

  circuit yeah [TS]

  mhm I'm I'm telling you she's gonna [TS]

  marry Peter Coyote mm well they were [TS]

  parking the car over here so you never [TS]

  know they were they were doing something [TS]

  in the car for a while i do think that [TS]

  they'll get compensation of some form [TS]

  from the government for the the program [TS]

  probably by the house right it's like [TS]

  the sight of of the famous alien [TS]

  encounter and they'll turn into like a [TS]

  museum or something it's probably still [TS]

  more research to be done [TS]

  Elliot to I i would imagine that Elliott [TS]

  said not to totally ruin this movie by [TS]

  speculating what reality what happened [TS]

  yeah but but to do that I Elliott has [TS]

  Elliot is a human who has been mentally [TS]

  attached to an alien being bonded for [TS]

  days with an alien and sort of got out [TS]

  glimpse into the thought process of an [TS]

  alien i would imagine that they will be [TS]

  talking to elliot and using him as a [TS]

  research subject for a long time which [TS]

  probably be you know that probably pay [TS]

  for his college tuition and all those [TS]

  things because of that so yeah it'll be [TS]

  okay eventually he becomes an FBI agent [TS]

  and he's teamed with this beautiful [TS]

  brilliant red head and they I did [TS]

  actually want again in a lesser movie [TS]

  that is not that is not this movie the [TS]

  last scene is they go back home and as [TS]

  they're walking into the front door [TS]

  Elliot passes a planter box and all the [TS]

  plants and he touches it and all the [TS]

  plants bloom back to life [TS]

  oh he's been left with ed powers and [TS]

  then guitar solo tu tu ET le will return [TS]

  in ET to the quickening yeah i mean that [TS]

  there was a spate of movies after this [TS]

  of you know aliens befriending children [TS]

  and doing really making me and number [TS]

  two the frozen every one of the [TS]

  sucked was because they were all about [TS]

  trying to be cute and doing things just [TS]

  like that you know it's ago when that'd [TS]

  be cool yeah and and they don't they [TS]

  don't pay any attention to how children [TS]

  really behaved they don't really pay [TS]

  attention to the characters the way this [TS]

  one does i mean this is a really well [TS]

  realised group of of characters [TS]

  yeah i agree it's such a just a great [TS]

  movie I yeah I started out saying how [TS]

  much i love it I since you know once i [TS]

  started watching it with my kids and I [TS]

  realized again how much I love it we had [TS]

  a thing for my kids are growing up every [TS]

  year on dad's birthday we would watch ET [TS]

  together and to the sub was kind of like [TS]

  a thing you know and let's say well what [TS]

  do you want for your birthday that I [TS]

  really want you to watch ET with me and [TS]

  they loved it and we had a great time [TS]

  now my kids are like you know high [TS]

  school and college and I find myself [TS]

  still watching it on my birthday [TS]

  sometimes alone [TS]

  it's just such a great i don't know i [TS]

  like it relates a snapshot of my [TS]

  childhood so there's a part of it that I [TS]

  love for that but also i just feel like [TS]

  it's a very well-conceived project and [TS]

  everything in it works even the stuff [TS]

  that doesn't work work for me right [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah well then I mean that's [TS]

  magic that's the magic realism III I [TS]

  wonder if I'd kept in touch with the [TS]

  movie / 0 over the years it it did not [TS]

  hit me very strongly this time and I i [TS]

  do remember how strongly it hit me when [TS]

  I was a kid but I've been separated from [TS]

  it for so long that as i watched it i [TS]

  found myself feeling you know I'm not [TS]

  really looking for magic realism I'm not [TS]

  really i am having trouble turning my [TS]

  brain off and I'm trying to turn this [TS]

  movie into something it's not [TS]

  and i'm not sure where I'm not sure [TS]

  where that comes from you we recently [TS]

  reviewed a significantly lesser movie [TS]

  called Batman Returns that was very very [TS]

  bright in my memory for something I [TS]

  thought it was fascinating and weird and [TS]

  edgy and all the stuff that was it i'm [TS]

  having a similar moment of let down with [TS]

  ET for some reason I can't really put my [TS]

  finger on it other than [TS]

  all of the other big movies in the big [TS]

  franchises of the late seventies and [TS]

  early eighties for some reason I feel [TS]

  like they stuck around a little bit [TS]

  longer and I felt compelled to keep [TS]

  checking in with him [TS]

  ET was a one-off and it left me behind [TS]

  and on and and i'm just not sure do you [TS]

  how how big does it still hold all flat [TS]

  how big a place doesn't still hold in [TS]

  current pop culture is it a period piece [TS]

  is it nostalgia or is it still ET the [TS]

  big blockbuster that we all still [TS]

  remember fondly well let my kids both [TS]

  saw in school the first time I didn't [TS]

  even know I was like wait wait you saw [TS]

  it in school because my wife and I said [TS]

  we should we should see if they want to [TS]

  see et they've never seen ET well they [TS]

  both seen it and and over the course of [TS]

  several days it was one of those time [TS]

  killer things in school and that's [TS]

  really not the best way to an experience [TS]

  in the movie and you know and and so [TS]

  they like it they liked it when we [TS]

  watched it again and you know I I can't [TS]

  help but think like the first time I [TS]

  showed them star trek the wrath of khan [TS]

  i even knowing that there were more [TS]

  films with Spock later my son my older [TS]

  son really had no idea what was coming [TS]

  and so when Spock dies at the end it's [TS]

  like oh my god and he had been [TS]

  shattering all through the movie and he [TS]

  just went dead silent for the rest of [TS]

  the movie i really want to kind of you [TS]

  know now that it's been a little time [TS]

  since they saw it I kind of want to sit [TS]

  down and turn out all the lights and [TS]

  turn off all the devices and just say [TS]

  let's just watch this and experience it [TS]

  and see what happens but i know that the [TS]

  whole generation of kids at least in [TS]

  their school for them it's a movie that [TS]

  kills time at school and that's kind of [TS]

  depressing at the might get my kids are [TS]

  older now and they've died already told [TS]

  the story about them seen many years ago [TS]

  but my my sister-in-law has two kids a [TS]

  five and seven and we watched it [TS]

  together and they had never seen it [TS]

  before and I will [TS]

  super curious to see how they liked it [TS]

  the seven-year-old girl was completely [TS]

  in I mean from the very beginning feet [TS]

  she really enjoyed it she wasn't talking [TS]

  she was watching during the part where [TS]

  he's dying she like scooted in next to [TS]

  me you know she wanted to be close but [TS]

  the but the five-year-old he did you [TS]

  just didn't care at all and I feel like [TS]

  maybe this is the grumpy old man but you [TS]

  know a lot of like you know kids [TS]

  animation style movies today are a lot [TS]

  of like an old fart jokes and like gags [TS]

  and it just didn't feel like this movie [TS]

  resonated with him at all but i think he [TS]

  might have been too young to for to [TS]

  resonate with him [TS]

  yeah I have no idea how it how it lands [TS]

  with kids at all these days but I know [TS]

  for me kind of like it was with you chip [TS]

  it i didn't check in with it at all and [TS]

  I found it I found it enjoyable film to [TS]

  watch I think maybe I'm still you know [TS]

  Snoopy enough and an emotional enough to [TS]

  to have all of those those cute sweet [TS]

  scenes resonate with me enough to enjoy [TS]

  I don't see myself going back to watch [TS]

  it again it was just it was it was a [TS]

  fine movie I i think it was very [TS]

  well-crafted and I can see how it if if [TS]

  i had seen it at the right time or the [TS]

  right age and watch the beginning again [TS]

  that this this would totally have been a [TS]

  movie that I would have returned to [TS]

  again and again is that didn't happen [TS]

  that way and I don't think that it's i [TS]

  don't i don't know that it's as well [TS]

  known in you know the cultural zeitgeist [TS]

  is it used to be i mean that's that's [TS]

  going to happen but it's i feel like i [TS]

  used to see a lot more references to it [TS]

  in pop culture and that is is fading out [TS]

  a little bit so I mean unless some sort [TS]

  of big ET revival happens i would not be [TS]

  surprised if as the years pass he [TS]

  teaches sort of fades away [TS]

  I feel like it's a club it's a classical [TS]

  movie and will always be considered that [TS]

  it is right i think it has reached [TS]

  classic status i think what it is nice [TS]

  is a science-fiction franchise right and [TS]

  I yeah and it's never gonna be that and [TS]

  that's good [TS]

  I i read i think the wikipedia page says [TS]

  that that's feel burger at one point was [TS]

  throwing around a sequel and where [TS]

  they're like no no it would be it would [TS]

  do nothing but Robbie original of it [TS]

  virginity is what steven spielberg said [TS]

  about ET to nocturnal fears and so that [TS]

  was made and so it is [TS]

  I you know I think it's gonna be one of [TS]

  those things where people like oh you [TS]

  haven't seen ETO that's a classic like [TS]

  it's it's on you know the national film [TS]

  registry [TS]

  it's a lie i feel like it's that kind of [TS]

  movie and so in the end I do think it [TS]

  will be remembered but it's not going to [TS]

  be remembered in the context of [TS]

  something like Star Wars which for [TS]

  raiders of the lost ark where they [TS]

  became the blockbuster movie franchises [TS]

  because in the end [TS]

  yeah it's a largely quiet fairytale kind [TS]

  of movie I also would say i do think it [TS]

  looms large on Steven Spielberg's [TS]

  filmography and Steven Spielberg yeah [TS]

  who is who is still making movies 69 he [TS]

  still making movies but he is it safe to [TS]

  say going to be recognized as one of the [TS]

  towering directors of all-time and this [TS]

  is one of his very best films and will [TS]

  remain so so i think on that level it [TS]

  will also be remembered but it's not in [TS]

  the same category as movies that you [TS]

  might categorize it with because it's [TS]

  not it's just this you know it's kind of [TS]

  personal and it's sweet and it's fairy [TS]

  tale ish and it's not any of the things [TS]

  and it has kind of no villain any of the [TS]

  things that that would require it to be [TS]

  more I don't feel like revisiting it [TS]

  more than once every decade and myself [TS]

  and and that that's fine because I don't [TS]

  you know I can't remember the last time [TS]

  i watched watch casablanca it's probably [TS]

  time to watch it again but it you know [TS]

  it but it's been a little while because [TS]

  I don't feel the need to revisit all of [TS]

  those movies all the time so classic [TS]

  though I think also chip I think [TS]

  somebody needs their heart touched by a [TS]

  glowing alien fingernail haha one thing [TS]

  that I do value about this movie and [TS]

  it's not it was never intended to be but [TS]

  it totally has turned we started at the [TS]

  beginning calling a time capsule [TS]

  it is so thoroughly obvious time it's so [TS]

  thoroughly 1982 ya down to the you know [TS]

  down to him playing with his star wars [TS]

  figures in front of ET and [TS]

  calling them by name you know all of the [TS]

  all of the back pass between Steven [TS]

  Spielberg and George Lucas really coming [TS]

  out here but i was looking back into my [TS]

  childhood I was looking into 1982 and it [TS]

  looked authentic absolutely authentic [TS]

  and that that is a gift for this movie I [TS]

  think and just like it does not [TS]

  it's not like a Stepford portrayal of [TS]

  the suburbs rain right grown-up thing I [TS]

  mean [TS]

  Oh on Halloween when I grew up things [TS]

  were rough on halloween night me when [TS]

  you went out you had eggs and there was [TS]

  stuff going on [TS]

  I mean it's so much more milk toes now [TS]

  at least where i live compared to where [TS]

  I gave up and you know penis breath and [TS]

  all that's I mean that's just kind of [TS]

  the way of the world then and and you [TS]

  know you didn't have GPS on your kids [TS]

  and get all the stuff you know and and [TS]

  so that's one of the reasons why i know [TS]

  i'm nostalgic for now and i enjoy [TS]

  because it reminds me of a different [TS]

  phase of my life but but it is it is [TS]

  wonderful that that it is there the [TS]

  events go kind of magic realist but uh [TS]

  but he really he really strives for [TS]

  civility grounds it and and when it when [TS]

  it's grounded and windy other other [TS]

  movies off the time didn't pay as much [TS]

  attention to where they were there was [TS]

  set dressing but he's actually exploring [TS]

  this is the pop culture of the time [TS]

  these the Star Wars toys here's the [TS]

  dungeons and dragons here's that [TS]

  commercial and when you do a good job of [TS]

  grounding it in a time then you [TS]

  inevitably create a time capsule and [TS]

  there are other contemporary movies that [TS]

  just are not this one does it if you're [TS]

  of age that you grew up in this late [TS]

  seventies early eighties and you haven't [TS]

  seen this moving in while you owe it to [TS]

  yourself to just just watch it once [TS]

  because it is so fun especially for [TS]

  someone that lived through that area now [TS]

  even though it didn't strike me [TS]

  emotionally [TS]

  uh the way it does you David it it did [TS]

  it I am grateful that I got that I [TS]

  rewatched it just to sort of reconnect [TS]

  who i was back then huh [TS]

  back when ship had a heart mmhmm yeah it [TS]

  is then then for the next couple of [TS]

  years because i was a scrawny guy with a [TS]

  long [TS]

  like the kids on the bus would taunt me [TS]

  and call me ET so maybe that also has [TS]

  some knows we just got to the room [TS]

  sure yes ouch indeed therapy via podcast [TS]

  everybody hug shoots to everybody hug [TS]

  chip it's time for us all to grab our [TS]

  flower pots and return to our spaceship [TS]

  now so I'd like to thank my guess [TS]

  Erica and sign thanks for being here [TS]

  thank you for having me i'm going to [TS]

  switch my keys to the other side of my [TS]

  belts and head home [TS]

  smart move chipset earth thanks for [TS]

  being here I'll be right here [TS]

  oh look at you it'sit's all it's working [TS]

  now dear lord thank you thank you I i [TS]

  will engage the rainbow dr excellent and [TS]

  David Sparkes I told him to talk now he [TS]

  can talk now [TS]

  thank you Jason and thanks everybody out [TS]

  there for listening we are indeed [TS]

  engaging the rainbow drive and heading [TS]

  off to the other side of the rainbow [TS]

  which is in space or something [TS]

  we will see you next week bye everybody [TS]

  to done your heart late [TS]

  ok ok I'll stop I'll stop will you know [TS]

  let it shine wherever I just wish I [TS]

  remembered more of the lyrics to heart [TS]

  like yeah I'm grateful that you don't [TS]

  want to know your heart like God I [TS]

  wasn't gonna stop you did that day it's [TS]

  your fault Jason chip i only watch [TS]

  Baywatch for the articles and uh error [TS]

  error error reboot ship reboot chip [TS]

  summer Steve let's is smiling [TS]