Roderick on the Line

Ep. 225: "James Jacket"


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00:00:19   who had John I'm Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:24   it's going pretty good i'm i'm i'm not [TS]

00:00:27   in my customary podcast scenario should [TS]

00:00:30   I are sure you are now doesn't sound the [TS]

00:00:32   same [TS]

00:00:33   he's some fantastic i have that Dad [TS]

00:00:35   rock'n'roll years well it all sounds [TS]

00:00:37   like to me write it just sounds like a [TS]

00:00:40   compressed little uh one of those that [TS]

00:00:43   the grilled cheese sandwiches that is [TS]

00:00:44   made in a waffle iron [TS]

00:00:46   it's what Robin Williams called a [TS]

00:00:47   Buddhist gift oh I see what you mean [TS]

00:00:50   something that you don't want that you [TS]

00:00:52   have to learn to accept I heard in an [TS]

00:00:54   interview in a documentary one time [TS]

00:00:56   where I i think was Terry Gilliam was [TS]

00:00:59   saying that mr. robin williams says that [TS]

00:01:01   a mistake is a Buddhist gift you know we [TS]

00:01:05   say in rock and roll is one time it's a [TS]

00:01:07   one-time it's a clam m2 times it's a [TS]

00:01:10   it's a team three times it's a it's a [TS]

00:01:13   rift is that they make jazz Jon that's [TS]

00:01:15   exactly I make sure how many clams take [TS]

00:01:17   to make a jazz [TS]

00:01:18   mm well it depends is that why it's also [TS]

00:01:21   a red so what do you think mr. al 1233 [TS]

00:01:27   we points3 leaks something about that up [TS]

00:01:32   about hope about that up [TS]

00:01:34   oh no mr. Berlin I've been trying to [TS]

00:01:37   listen to more music have you have you [TS]

00:01:40   been trying to watch old a sudden that [TS]

00:01:42   live episodes for mr. bill [TS]

00:01:45   Oh mr. bill mr. bill is really look [TS]

00:01:49   forward mr. bill so did I don't think I [TS]

00:01:51   really wanted the implications of mr. [TS]

00:01:53   bill you know there was that that's the [TS]

00:01:56   that's that national lampoon sense of [TS]

00:01:58   humor which i think you needed to be [TS]

00:02:01   very very preppy and very very stone [TS]

00:02:04   preppy and stoned pre-installed i'm in [TS]

00:02:08   new york city right now what are you [TS]

00:02:09   doing in there are you are you in the [TS]

00:02:11   actual titular city something back [TS]

00:02:12   it sounds like you might be one of the [TS]

00:02:13   borough's i'm in a burrow right now I'm [TS]

00:02:16   on the i'm on the great island of of [TS]

00:02:18   long and but I'm staying in New York [TS]

00:02:23   City and New York is really really full [TS]

00:02:26   of young recipe drunk people [TS]

00:02:29   he also smoked a lot and so much [TS]

00:02:32   cigarette isn't me don't you see more [TS]

00:02:34   smoking in the city enormously more [TS]

00:02:36   smoking I mean everywhere else people [TS]

00:02:38   don't smoke anymore they don't smoke [TS]

00:02:39   anymore but in New York they smoke you [TS]

00:02:42   smoke like it's just a normal thing they [TS]

00:02:45   do they smoke like it's a normal thing [TS]

00:02:46   and also they don't have any like [TS]

00:02:51   prohibition against talking on the phone [TS]

00:02:53   she's gonna want the phone all the time [TS]

00:02:56   in San Francisco University of soul on [TS]

00:02:58   the phone [TS]

00:02:59   well you see them do you see them [TS]

00:03:00   staring at the phone and typing but [TS]

00:03:01   people rarely you see you see a lot of [TS]

00:03:04   people if you see people talking on the [TS]

00:03:05   phone it's usually because they got one [TS]

00:03:06   of those robot bluetooth things [TS]

00:03:08   mhm and it's a that's that's a whole [TS]

00:03:10   different kind of thing uh yeah that's [TS]

00:03:13   that's right people in seattle the same [TS]

00:03:15   way there staring at their phones [TS]

00:03:16   they're engaged with their phone but [TS]

00:03:17   they are not talking into it in any way [TS]

00:03:20   and in New York they're talking into [TS]

00:03:22   their phones and I think it's because [TS]

00:03:23   you can't stare at your phone in New [TS]

00:03:25   York or you'll be murdered [TS]

00:03:27   yeah you know what i think that's that's [TS]

00:03:29   part of the ethos i was in line at the [TS]

00:03:31   snack bar at the cinema yesterday and I [TS]

00:03:34   was thinking isn't this funny all five [TS]

00:03:36   of the people in front of me are staring [TS]

00:03:38   at their phones and I thought to myself [TS]

00:03:39   you know why don't know with what i [TS]

00:03:42   thought to myself self i said to myself [TS]

00:03:44   I says well why don't people just talk [TS]

00:03:46   to each other anymore [TS]

00:03:48   oh and then and it was really nice one [TS]

00:03:50   guy says to another guy in line when he [TS]

00:03:53   got there and the guy says it's a [TS]

00:03:55   yeast-like to put it on my popcorn haha [TS]

00:03:58   it's on East and then they went into a [TS]

00:04:00   long conversation about which theaters [TS]

00:04:02   have ye stand down my just look at your [TS]

00:04:03   fucking phone shut up I'm you know like [TS]

00:04:06   if somebody if I said hey how's it going [TS]

00:04:09   and somebody use the word yeast in the [TS]

00:04:11   first sentence wow yeah that's a real [TS]

00:04:14   like that's a real like pull back pull [TS]

00:04:16   back get out get out [TS]

00:04:17   yeast feels like the topic of a [TS]

00:04:19   one-issue person what I call the file [TS]

00:04:21   card person where there is one thing [TS]

00:04:22   they want to be Bernie Sanders it could [TS]

00:04:24   be bikes it could be east right how do [TS]

00:04:28   you know that how do you know that you [TS]

00:04:30   have a fireman at your party [TS]

00:04:31   mmm i give up a dino will tell you huh [TS]

00:04:36   that's one that's kind of non jokes and [TS]

00:04:39   it's a great joke i mean i guess you [TS]

00:04:40   have to know I guess you have to know it [TS]

00:04:42   ultrafire man I justyou have to have [TS]

00:04:45   ever had a fire it's like that that dark [TS]

00:04:47   Russian sense of humor you have you have [TS]

00:04:49   to be a nineties kids understand this [TS]

00:04:51   fireman Jack yeah that'd be the joke [TS]

00:04:54   being that a fireman is not going to [TS]

00:04:56   miss an opportunity to tell you the [TS]

00:04:58   firemen because they're here because [TS]

00:05:00   they're here [TS]

00:05:01   yeah yeah there's there's a lot of folks [TS]

00:05:04   like that god bless them you know what [TS]

00:05:05   thank you for your service [TS]

00:05:06   god bless them and I it was did I ever [TS]

00:05:08   tell you about the time mostly about [TS]

00:05:12   this the other day I regret not having [TS]

00:05:15   joined the military [TS]

00:05:16   hmm we granted when did that regret for [TS]

00:05:20   start to evidencing itself [TS]

00:05:23   well I when I was young I I always [TS]

00:05:25   assumed i would be in the military at [TS]

00:05:26   some point and then right about the time [TS]

00:05:29   that you are the age of someone who's [TS]

00:05:31   going to join the military right I was a [TS]

00:05:34   I was a piece Nick an anarchist yeah and [TS]

00:05:37   so not joining the military felt like a [TS]

00:05:39   real rebellion against my earlier self [TS]

00:05:43   no one was pressuring me to go into the [TS]

00:05:44   military my mom actually anytime a [TS]

00:05:47   recruiter would call the house my mom [TS]

00:05:49   would like to swear at them and and slam [TS]

00:05:51   the phone down [TS]

00:05:52   not my son that's right and she said if [TS]

00:05:55   you join the military i'm going to move [TS]

00:05:56   you to Canada or something she had some [TS]

00:05:58   idea that she could prohibit me from [TS]

00:06:00   joining the military [TS]

00:06:01   she was gonna disown because she is a [TS]

00:06:04   real peace activist but i thought i [TS]

00:06:08   would join the military and then during [TS]

00:06:09   the during the heyday years where was [TS]

00:06:11   like go join the military and learn [TS]

00:06:13   discipline and be a young person I it [TS]

00:06:17   wasn't in my that was part of my scene [TS]

00:06:19   but then later like when I was 30 I said [TS]

00:06:24   what I wish when I was 18 instead of the [TS]

00:06:27   scene that I did occupy I'd gone and [TS]

00:06:30   John join the military minutes but it's [TS]

00:06:31   one of those things where you're like [TS]

00:06:32   how can you say that [TS]

00:06:34   well how different would you be right [TS]

00:06:36   it's like completely different life but [TS]

00:06:39   then after 911 when I was in my [TS]

00:06:42   mid-thirties and still young enough to [TS]

00:06:46   join the military [TS]

00:06:47   I went and looked and they had been [TS]

00:06:49   they'd raise the top age and I could [TS]

00:06:52   have just gone [TS]

00:06:53   at 35 years old and said sign me up [TS]

00:06:58   I'm going to the you know going to fight [TS]

00:07:00   on behalf of Justice going to the big [TS]

00:07:03   game [TS]

00:07:03   whatever we thought then yeah right oh [TS]

00:07:06   LOL mixed up about the country's but you [TS]

00:07:08   know em um and I really thought about it [TS]

00:07:12   but you know I had a lot going on sure [TS]

00:07:15   and and now i'm too old to join the [TS]

00:07:19   military and it's very easy for me to [TS]

00:07:20   say boy I wish I joined the military but [TS]

00:07:23   i do feel like having a kid like some [TS]

00:07:26   other things in life you know some not [TS]

00:07:29   not bucket list because that's vulgar [TS]

00:07:31   but you know like the idea that that in [TS]

00:07:36   the course of living a full life you do [TS]

00:07:39   the you know you do the following things [TS]

00:07:41   and we got to take your boxes grown-up [TS]

00:07:44   yeah what was the you know starship [TS]

00:07:46   troopers right they won't even give you [TS]

00:07:47   a full citizenship and lose it and what [TS]

00:07:50   if you know it's like Israel yeah that's [TS]

00:07:52   right that's right like Israel everybody [TS]

00:07:54   goes except in Israel it seems like [TS]

00:07:56   everybody's super super sexy right [TS]

00:07:59   that's a sexy army [TS]

00:08:01   oh yeah and don't you learn like Jewish [TS]

00:08:02   kungfu if they have their own special [TS]

00:08:05   kungfu they teach you probably probably [TS]

00:08:08   they you know that's like I think of [TS]

00:08:10   them as like the tank top army em [TS]

00:08:13   they're carrying their guns on the [TS]

00:08:14   subway they're all wearing tank tops [TS]

00:08:16   yeah it seems like it was a good way to [TS]

00:08:18   be 19 carrying a gun and wearing a [TS]

00:08:20   tanktop taiwan occurred to me i [TS]

00:08:22   mentioned last week my primary high [TS]

00:08:23   school girlfriend she joined the [TS]

00:08:24   airforce when she was about once a 22 [TS]

00:08:27   maybe 23 your secondary high school [TS]

00:08:30   program by a secondary and tertiary high [TS]

00:08:31   school girlfriend occurred to me about [TS]

00:08:32   five years ago that she's probably [TS]

00:08:34   retired now from the Air Force yeah I [TS]

00:08:36   think about it as a as a lieutenant [TS]

00:08:39   colonel and she's making like a normal [TS]

00:08:42   weight for the rest of her life [TS]

00:08:43   II don't a pretty good they do yeah see [TS]

00:08:46   that's one of the really think about it [TS]

00:08:47   i really be in my country and retired [TS]

00:08:50   they pay you not very well through the [TS]

00:08:52   whole time that you're working [TS]

00:08:53   comparable to what you could probably [TS]

00:08:56   making in the real world but then they [TS]

00:08:59   continue to pay you not your full salary [TS]

00:09:02   but but pretty darn good but you get [TS]

00:09:04   glasses and stuff like [TS]

00:09:06   yes those nice VA hospitals me they're [TS]

00:09:10   so great the NBA and you get that [TS]

00:09:13   haircut that one haircut I definitely a [TS]

00:09:17   you were a cadet right and I was a cadet [TS]

00:09:20   we were both military cadets I for a [TS]

00:09:23   year I was as a consequence of going to [TS]

00:09:26   military school I was automatically in [TS]

00:09:28   njrotc em and give you additional Junior [TS]

00:09:32   ROTC if you just stayed in the njrotc [TS]

00:09:35   retirement 19 [TS]

00:09:36   yeah well they would have commissioned [TS]

00:09:39   you in the Navy you'd be an officer now [TS]

00:09:41   easily and of course i would have been [TS]

00:09:43   an officer just by virtue of having been [TS]

00:09:45   recognized as standing in the door of [TS]

00:09:47   the recruiter yeah they would have said [TS]

00:09:48   oh my god John I think they would've [TS]

00:09:50   fast-tracked you I think if everybody [TS]

00:09:52   had had had had their head together that [TS]

00:09:54   day [TS]

00:09:54   you've probably been retired a couple [TS]

00:09:55   years you know right into officer [TS]

00:09:57   candidate school huh [TS]

00:09:59   and it's sort of like if I had ever gone [TS]

00:10:01   25 ever gone to Yale and stood in the [TS]

00:10:03   doorway which I never did write it as a [TS]

00:10:06   young person my gun stood in the doorway [TS]

00:10:09   somebody would have seen the light kind [TS]

00:10:10   of from behind right yeah there would [TS]

00:10:12   have been like a angel choir [TS]

00:10:14   well they could just see the cut of your [TS]

00:10:15   jib just from the silhouette that's [TS]

00:10:17   right from the silhouette and they would [TS]

00:10:18   have said Jesus Christ what are you [TS]

00:10:19   doing out there come in [TS]

00:10:21   uh-huh and maybe I would have been [TS]

00:10:23   pushing a broom but then i would have [TS]

00:10:24   been solving math problems on the [TS]

00:10:26   chalkboard in the you know in the night [TS]

00:10:28   RC and that's the thing is once you're [TS]

00:10:30   fast track you can really get super fast [TS]

00:10:32   tracked and let's be honest with you and [TS]

00:10:34   says uh what does he say showing up as [TS]

00:10:35   eighty percent of life you show up at [TS]

00:10:37   the Mossad or you show up to show up in [TS]

00:10:39   the doorway of Yale they're going to [TS]

00:10:41   walk you in and then once you've got a [TS]

00:10:43   literal foot in the little door then the [TS]

00:10:45   fast-tracking really starts and that's [TS]

00:10:47   when they can you become like ender you [TS]

00:10:49   know they're going to they're going to [TS]

00:10:50   move you up a lot of a lot of places [TS]

00:10:51   very very quickly they're gonna remember [TS]

00:10:53   the game you don't in the game after you [TS]

00:10:55   then they might try and Gaslight your [TS]

00:10:57   little bit no spoilers but the point [TS]

00:11:00   being I think at that point that they're [TS]

00:11:01   going to see they're gonna be able to [TS]

00:11:02   actually maybe even measure the cut of [TS]

00:11:03   your jib let's be honest and this is [TS]

00:11:05   what [TS]

00:11:06   yeah we'll go ahead no no I just I [TS]

00:11:08   disappoints me John you you should be [TS]

00:11:10   there so many things you should be [TS]

00:11:11   retired from at this point breaks my [TS]

00:11:13   heart to know to know how little your [TS]

00:11:15   jib cut was appreciated breaks my heart [TS]

00:11:17   but I don't know [TS]

00:11:18   right when you're when you're making a [TS]

00:11:20   list of the things that you ought to do [TS]

00:11:21   in the course of a life [TS]

00:11:23   yeah i don't know how many of those I've [TS]

00:11:27   done already but i do know the ones that [TS]

00:11:30   I've aged out of I do feel if you're [TS]

00:11:33   gonna live a full life you should have [TS]

00:11:34   been in the Mossad at one point [TS]

00:11:36   yeah he should have gone to Yale and and [TS]

00:11:38   gone through as a member of that the [TS]

00:11:40   njrotc and let's see should have fought [TS]

00:11:46   and overseas war retired before the age [TS]

00:11:51   of 40 [TS]

00:11:52   yeah right all these things what apps [TS]

00:11:54   should have designed to have made an [TS]

00:11:56   appt you should have made a nap after [TS]

00:11:58   winning winning an Emmy right if you got [TS]

00:12:02   out of the got out of the Navy or the [TS]

00:12:03   Air Force let's say huh [TS]

00:12:05   and then went to write for a hit comedy [TS]

00:12:08   show you become he gotta pee gotta pee [TS]

00:12:11   just an a2 it for the brilliant Mel [TS]

00:12:14   Brooks Mel Brooks puts out an app boom [TS]

00:12:16   he's a neat ah ha whatever we get Rita [TS]

00:12:20   Marie now [TS]

00:12:21   yeah yeah Mel Brooks who else did you [TS]

00:12:24   know that I i wrote a tweet to Rita [TS]

00:12:26   Moreno and then I put it in my drafts [TS]

00:12:28   folder and I haven't sent it i do this [TS]

00:12:30   both remember what it was i mean i'm not [TS]

00:12:32   sure if you listen to the show but [TS]

00:12:34   DeeDee of a sense of what is what you're [TS]

00:12:36   going to say to her I do so I don't know [TS]

00:12:39   if I've ever described it on this [TS]

00:12:41   program but when my dad was after he was [TS]

00:12:45   every had already left the washington [TS]

00:12:47   state legislature and I think maybe yes [TS]

00:12:50   in fact after he after he worked for [TS]

00:12:53   John F Kennedy he was bouncing around [TS]

00:12:57   let's say in Washington State [TS]

00:13:00   it seemed like he had hard to put the [TS]

00:13:03   stories all together as you know but it [TS]

00:13:05   seems like he has somewhat missed an [TS]

00:13:08   opportunity that in the early fifties he [TS]

00:13:12   was again fast-tracked to being am a [TS]

00:13:16   prominent Democrat in Washington and [TS]

00:13:19   then somehow he had not played his cards [TS]

00:13:21   right and Carrie was 40 years old not [TS]

00:13:25   sure which way to which way to turn [TS]

00:13:27   I don't don't really understand that [TS]

00:13:29   feeling yeah right and you [TS]

00:13:31   he was doing some acting now it's at the [TS]

00:13:35   Cirque theatre in seattle in the surc [TS]

00:13:37   was a kind of you know a little bit [TS]

00:13:40   avant-garde it was theater-in-the-round [TS]

00:13:42   and it was the theater space was in a [TS]

00:13:46   neighborhood that was in the early [TS]

00:13:48   sixties considered transitional which [TS]

00:13:50   remained transitional until very [TS]

00:13:52   recently and now it's very expensive in [TS]

00:13:55   the in the great in the great song the [TS]

00:13:58   great operator of America [TS]

00:14:00   yeah but at the time he was in this [TS]

00:14:03   theater company and it was a theater [TS]

00:14:07   company that did a very excellent job of [TS]

00:14:10   bringing a national and international [TS]

00:14:14   theatre people to perform in Seattle [TS]

00:14:16   this is pre world's fair and so my dad [TS]

00:14:21   was in a play with Rita marina in the [TS]

00:14:25   late fifties early sixties so it would [TS]

00:14:28   have been right around the [TS]

00:14:30   I'm gonna I'm just gonna throw out of [TS]

00:14:33   gas that it was maybe before he went to [TS]

00:14:39   work for Kennedy ok [TS]

00:14:40   59 let's call and he's in a place with [TS]

00:14:46   Rita Moreno and he characterizes himself [TS]

00:14:49   now this is the same man who I don't I [TS]

00:14:51   want to make clear that he never said he [TS]

00:14:53   shot down a Japanese zero with a 45 [TS]

00:14:56   pistol he only claim to have shot at a [TS]

00:14:59   japanese air he left the conclusion of [TS]

00:15:02   that engagement to our imagination but [TS]

00:15:07   he implied pretty strongly that he was [TS]

00:15:13   going out on some dates with random rain [TS]

00:15:16   some dates some number of dates romantic [TS]

00:15:21   theater dates [TS]

00:15:23   mm not get otherwise engaged at this [TS]

00:15:26   point no or maybe unclear [TS]

00:15:29   this was also a transitional period he [TS]

00:15:31   was he at one point he got divorced and [TS]

00:15:33   then another point he met my mom I got [TS]

00:15:36   it [TS]

00:15:36   ok right in the same area 15 on going [TS]

00:15:39   through changes as simpana says right [TS]

00:15:42   and this is a this is the Manuel going [TS]

00:15:44   through changes right [TS]

00:15:45   that's because the victim of changes as [TS]

00:15:47   Judas Priest that's a good point but 59 [TS]

00:15:50   right this is our mad men era [TS]

00:15:53   yep everybody's really well-dressed my [TS]

00:15:57   dad at what I think at one point was [TS]

00:15:58   wearing a pencil mustache [TS]

00:16:00   well anyway went on [TS]

00:16:04   mmm unclear some dates with Rita Moreno [TS]

00:16:07   and then one night he was waiting [TS]

00:16:10   outside the theater or no no I'm sorry [TS]

00:16:12   he was escorting rita moreno out of the [TS]

00:16:15   front door of the theater on their way [TS]

00:16:17   to a date and a man steps out of the [TS]

00:16:21   shadows and I know where the Cirque [TS]

00:16:24   theater is and I know where the shadows [TS]

00:16:26   are I can picture the shadows there [TS]

00:16:28   right there foo man steps out of the [TS]

00:16:31   shadows it's marlon brando top jimmy and [TS]

00:16:34   Marlon Brando says Rita whenever I not [TS]

00:16:37   do a good Marlin ready Rita who recruit [TS]

00:16:42   offer get removed [TS]

00:16:43   that's pretty good thanks I just stuffed [TS]

00:16:46   a bunch of cotton in there and then rita [TS]

00:16:49   moreno leaves with Martin Brando dashing [TS]

00:16:54   my father's hopes now this story [TS]

00:16:58   uh-huh is not verifiable by searching [TS]

00:17:03   the archives that are currently on the [TS]

00:17:05   Internet [TS]

00:17:06   yeah I look at the internet and look at [TS]

00:17:08   the Cirque playhouse and I can't see [TS]

00:17:09   anything here about it right so the cert [TS]

00:17:11   playhouse we'll confirm that Rita Moreno [TS]

00:17:14   was in a production there she is this [TS]

00:17:17   here it says here that I see her name [TS]

00:17:19   here the impressive list of Hollywood [TS]

00:17:21   stars who trod the boards at the Cirque [TS]

00:17:22   includes many many names [TS]

00:17:24   you got it yet Bob Cummings get King [TS]

00:17:26   Donovan Marsha hunt Tab Hunter Howard [TS]

00:17:29   keel you got to ride in McDowell rita [TS]

00:17:31   moreno so I actually met on his losses [TS]

00:17:34   OOP it's I met at mcdonalds child shut [TS]

00:17:37   up and my father and the cornelius Yeti [TS]

00:17:41   already been the ape [TS]

00:17:42   yes oh my god what if that was all i was [TS]

00:17:45   a big fan I love that guy [TS]

00:17:47   I did too i just he's like the English [TS]

00:17:49   Tony Randall it's exactly who he is and [TS]

00:17:52   he he was at the time my favorite actor [TS]

00:17:55   and I'm not sure whether it [TS]

00:17:57   that's because i met him i think it is [TS]

00:17:59   largely because I met him just as Count [TS]

00:18:01   Basie was my favorite big band [TS]

00:18:03   orchestral leader he may count basie [TS]

00:18:05   well I stood there I stood there as my [TS]

00:18:09   dad met like that was wearing a hat [TS]

00:18:12   count basie was not working at okay um [TS]

00:18:15   my dad massive count basie then he acted [TS]

00:18:19   as though he was meeting you know [TS]

00:18:23   Richard he'll pack his genius [TS]

00:18:26   I don't want a ranger what a touch that [TS]

00:18:29   guy had I'd think I think done by just [TS]

00:18:32   so much with four notes so hot small [TS]

00:18:35   court small chords got those little Nat [TS]

00:18:37   King Cole cord [TS]

00:18:38   mm so but my dad didn't make a big point [TS]

00:18:41   to introduce me to count basie at the [TS]

00:18:42   time because he was pretty starstruck I [TS]

00:18:44   was just standing as me I saw goddamn [TS]

00:18:46   but i actually was introduced to writing [TS]

00:18:48   down all so anyway I'm i wrote this [TS]

00:18:52   tweet to read Miranda okay so wait a [TS]

00:18:54   minute was nice running dowel yeah that [TS]

00:18:57   was incredible man that's something we [TS]

00:18:59   hear he turned to me gave me all this [TS]

00:19:01   attention it was in a bit crowded room [TS]

00:19:03   the lights were up user need my entire [TS]

00:19:06   month that makes me so happy to hear it [TS]

00:19:09   was wide by that point the circle [TS]

00:19:10   theatre had moved was no longer in its [TS]

00:19:13   prior location it was now down in the [TS]

00:19:15   center of the city and and we would we [TS]

00:19:19   would go there sometimes because you [TS]

00:19:21   know even even in his late fifties my [TS]

00:19:23   dad was still very bohemian one of them [TS]

00:19:27   he was one of the theater people is one [TS]

00:19:28   of the you know one of that [TS]

00:19:30   well not really but he but he was a [TS]

00:19:33   member of a lot of guilds anyway so i [TS]

00:19:38   wrote this wheat to Rita Moreno who's [TS]

00:19:41   still very active on Twitter you know [TS]

00:19:46   kind of like toni tennille you don't [TS]

00:19:48   know that she's out there of via one kit [TS]

00:19:51   she's not you wouldn't think she's one [TS]

00:19:53   kiss away from rock on the line but it [TS]

00:19:54   turns out toni tennille is one kiss away [TS]

00:19:57   one gets away from my nie you remind me [TS]

00:20:00   of Tony tell sometimes and I I'd are you [TS]

00:20:02   following her on twitter [TS]

00:20:04   she's a lot of emoji know she's you know [TS]

00:20:08   she has this autobiography and she's and [TS]

00:20:11   you know it's a good autobiography she's [TS]

00:20:13   out she's tried on the board of a low of [TS]

00:20:16   a book author but I don't know that's [TS]

00:20:19   right they tried charging the both of us [TS]

00:20:21   okay [TS]

00:20:21   hi difficult wider planks can but so i [TS]

00:20:26   don't know how many kisses away from [TS]

00:20:28   writer from the line Rita Moreno is and [TS]

00:20:31   i wrote this sweet and a little bit you [TS]

00:20:32   know it's a little bit like dear reader [TS]

00:20:34   marina my dad says that he may be like [TS]

00:20:42   you never said that he that you guys [TS]

00:20:46   like next in a parked car [TS]

00:20:48   uh-huh but the young ran out of [TS]

00:20:50   characters yoohoo & in un entier hurry [TS]

00:20:53   here's the lake there's a link to the [TS]

00:20:56   residence sweet it did you say like [TS]

00:20:58   create cre8 run together you're mr. and [TS]

00:21:03   president within the space [TS]

00:21:05   yeah I spelled it like two yards every [TS]

00:21:07   other one would die for you this episode [TS]

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00:23:39   for supporting Roderick online but I [TS]

00:23:42   didn't send it because it a little bit [TS]

00:23:44   throws my dad under the bus right [TS]

00:23:46   because rita moreno there's you know [TS]

00:23:49   there is chance that you'll read that [TS]

00:23:50   and she'll go oh Dave Roderick I haven't [TS]

00:23:53   thought of him in years and she'll write [TS]

00:23:55   me back go of course I remember your [TS]

00:23:57   father he played the role of of a Tony [TS]

00:24:00   Tony Randall in in our hit show at the [TS]

00:24:03   circle theatre in seattle in 1959 or [TS]

00:24:06   reading marino may not reply or she may [TS]

00:24:10   say sorry don't remember anybody by that [TS]

00:24:13   name and I don't want to you know I [TS]

00:24:16   don't want to throw my dad under the bus [TS]

00:24:17   I don't want to eat you don't want every [TS]

00:24:19   one of your stories fact-checked after [TS]

00:24:21   you're dead you can't win here [TS]

00:24:24   I mean certainly I hope that's not [TS]

00:24:25   that's not fair i hope that my archivist [TS]

00:24:28   goes about trying to fact-check all of [TS]

00:24:30   my stories because they [TS]

00:24:31   it will be that will be the subject of a [TS]

00:24:33   documentary film when that fact checker [TS]

00:24:35   when that dubious documentary film [TS]

00:24:37   series that dubious person me after I'm [TS]

00:24:40   dead [TS]

00:24:41   who says haha this can't all be real [TS]

00:24:43   Jonathan dubious and then find [TS]

00:24:45   themselves little by little [TS]

00:24:47   yep it also checks out it checks at the [TS]

00:24:50   exxon THX out there more and more [TS]

00:24:53   astonished until their John comment all [TS]

00:24:56   kinds of stuff you left out because it [TS]

00:24:57   didn't seem plausible [TS]

00:24:58   yeah that's right and then when they [TS]

00:25:00   when they find out that the story was [TS]

00:25:02   under told yes [TS]

00:25:04   oh how the journalist who like to check [TS]

00:25:06   facts are going to be a lot of openings [TS]

00:25:08   in the next few years I think I think [TS]

00:25:11   somebody maybe getting started right now [TS]

00:25:12   you know what I got to take your story [TS]

00:25:14   but maybe somebody comes in and get the [TS]

00:25:15   lay of the land [TS]

00:25:16   this could be somebody who comes in and [TS]

00:25:18   you get some you know get some briefings [TS]

00:25:20   with you [TS]

00:25:21   you can walk through the cigar boxes and [TS]

00:25:22   cowboy boots I'm old at this point [TS]

00:25:24   you're saying well I mean you're mean [TS]

00:25:26   like younger than I am but I'm saying [TS]

00:25:27   right now you bring somebody maybe start [TS]

00:25:29   interviewing people for this you get to [TS]

00:25:31   pick your own I've been watching the [TS]

00:25:32   crown on netflix now Winston Churchill [TS]

00:25:35   did not like the guy who painted his [TS]

00:25:37   portrait he didn't like the way the [TS]

00:25:38   portrait turned out no spoilers [TS]

00:25:39   he did not want to modern it's doing [TS]

00:25:41   that do you think you need to have [TS]

00:25:42   somebody who's not on board you need a [TS]

00:25:44   skeptic to come in should know where the [TS]

00:25:45   cowboy boots are you should just read [TS]

00:25:47   over it on your own after your death [TS]

00:25:49   I'm afraid that anybody that I higher [TS]

00:25:50   right now is going to be engaged in a [TS]

00:25:53   project is going to want to be engaged [TS]

00:25:54   in the project for reasons that will [TS]

00:25:56   diminish their capacity to say wait a [TS]

00:26:00   minute trying to do credulous right now [TS]

00:26:03   a little yeah it has to happen Lee it [TS]

00:26:06   has to happen when somebody like well I [TS]

00:26:08   think that fact checking in journalism [TS]

00:26:10   like digging down is going to be very [TS]

00:26:13   fashionable in 25 or 30 years in the [TS]

00:26:17   same way that vinyl is fashionable now [TS]

00:26:19   huh [TS]

00:26:19   right like it's going to be in and like [TS]

00:26:22   a sort of an anachronism some young kid [TS]

00:26:26   is going to say you know what [TS]

00:26:27   back in the old days journalists like [TS]

00:26:30   took a critical i was trying to figure [TS]

00:26:34   it out to totally figure out of things [TS]

00:26:36   are probably true right and then they're [TS]

00:26:38   gonna then they this young hipsters [TS]

00:26:40   going to be like that's what I'm gonna [TS]

00:26:42   get into [TS]

00:26:43   this is gonna make me really cool i'm [TS]

00:26:45   going to get into this whole like [TS]

00:26:46   journalism and maybe make I mean there's [TS]

00:26:49   probably going to be a lot of things [TS]

00:26:50   that they can investigate more [TS]

00:26:52   interesting than me but let's say one of [TS]

00:26:54   them like I want to just be so this is [TS]

00:26:57   gonna be the i'm going to be the most [TS]

00:26:58   obscure I me I'm some peasant bring this [TS]

00:27:03   up [TS]

00:27:04   trigger warning but mm ah Marlon Brando [TS]

00:27:09   and rita moreno did have a torrid affair [TS]

00:27:12   yeah according to the internet but he [TS]

00:27:15   cheated on her so much she tried to take [TS]

00:27:19   her own life [TS]

00:27:20   oh my goodness i'm not saying anything [TS]

00:27:22   one way or another I don't know did this [TS]

00:27:24   government's become free to her I don't [TS]

00:27:25   know if it's gonna be you know sand in [TS]

00:27:27   her gears but maybe just keep that in [TS]

00:27:29   mind wallet in your drafts folder so [TS]

00:27:31   circa when I don't know I don't visit [TS]

00:27:35   the daily mail or new york post but i'm [TS]

00:27:37   looking at just in the search results [TS]

00:27:38   also a very if you go in search on their [TS]

00:27:40   two names to see a very cool picture of [TS]

00:27:42   them in bed together [TS]

00:27:43   oh well I mean I bet from from my dad's [TS]

00:27:47   story it I always kind of put together a [TS]

00:27:51   picture of the fact that Marlon Brando [TS]

00:27:54   and she already had a long history [TS]

00:27:56   yeah and that this was one of those [TS]

00:27:57   things where he showed up thinking [TS]

00:28:00   probably release from treading the [TS]

00:28:01   boards [TS]

00:28:02   uh yeah and also probably from sexy time [TS]

00:28:07   yeah that's kind of bored reading I if [TS]

00:28:11   you're doing it if you're treading it if [TS]

00:28:13   you're treading on boards [TS]

00:28:15   uh-huh that's a different that's very [TS]

00:28:18   sexy he probably got that means that [TS]

00:28:20   you're not you're not confined to soft [TS]

00:28:23   places right you're gonna you're willing [TS]

00:28:25   to just do it out anywhere you mix it up [TS]

00:28:27   a little bit about the strange hmmm but [TS]

00:28:31   what I'm guessing is that Marlon Brando [TS]

00:28:34   steps out of the this is what I've [TS]

00:28:35   always guessed he steps out of the dark [TS]

00:28:38   Rita Moreno was not expecting in there [TS]

00:28:40   and also probably you know would have [TS]

00:28:43   said if you'd asked her what Marlon [TS]

00:28:46   Brando steps out of the Dark Shadows [TS]

00:28:48   what are you going to do list includes [TS]

00:28:50   therefore young listeners this is marlon [TS]

00:28:51   brando in the fifties that's right and [TS]

00:28:53   Marlon Brando fifties is not the Marlon [TS]

00:28:55   Brando you have in your head [TS]

00:28:56   right now he's a very handsome man in [TS]

00:28:58   the fifties Marlon Brando in the fifties [TS]

00:29:00   not single-handedly but he helped upset [TS]

00:29:04   an idea of sexy male masculinity in a [TS]

00:29:09   very interesting way because he was he [TS]

00:29:11   was he was really good looking he was [TS]

00:29:13   really masculine but like maybe say what [TS]

00:29:16   James has got the jacket jacket yeah [TS]

00:29:21   like James jacket the guy Danny [TS]

00:29:22   automobile accident oh yeah that's right [TS]

00:29:24   James acting like a majestic forever [TS]

00:29:27   young lord for he got the vulnerability [TS]

00:29:31   you got maybe a little bit not [TS]

00:29:33   sensitivity is a fraught work i think [TS]

00:29:36   that's correct but like you wouldn't [TS]

00:29:38   rule out these may be bisexual [TS]

00:29:40   oh no I don't know what out at all i [TS]

00:29:43   don't think people had a name for that I [TS]

00:29:45   don't think people i mean they had some [TS]

00:29:47   majority of names but i think people saw [TS]

00:29:49   something that would be taken so many oh [TS]

00:29:51   right and i think i think you see using [TS]

00:29:53   that James jacket movie they can take [TS]

00:29:56   him take him [TS]

00:29:57   yeah I think he had drug problems later [TS]

00:29:58   on which is a shame bisexuality was [TS]

00:30:01   understood to be a thing and I think [TS]

00:30:02   that it was you know it was something in [TS]

00:30:05   New York City that was maybe even chic [TS]

00:30:08   but sometimes people they throw a shape [TS]

00:30:10   they got they got a certain kind of vibe [TS]

00:30:12   and I'm saying is as great a man is that [TS]

00:30:14   let's be honest David rock was a great [TS]

00:30:15   man i would not want to be seeing Marlon [TS]

00:30:17   Brando come out of the shadows while I'm [TS]

00:30:19   trying to make x ray Marino also know I [TS]

00:30:22   don't know [TS]

00:30:23   so reading here just a little bit right [TS]

00:30:25   Rita a twenty-two-year-old rita moreno [TS]

00:30:28   met the thirty-year-old Marlon Brando in [TS]

00:30:30   1954 so a long time before this and uh I [TS]

00:30:36   cannot say this doesn't seem like [TS]

00:30:40   reading Moreno's voice but the new york [TS]

00:30:44   post a paragon of journalistic integrity [TS]

00:30:47   is never wrong quotes are here to say [TS]

00:30:51   that he was a great lover sensual [TS]

00:30:54   generous delightfully inventive would be [TS]

00:30:58   gravely understating what he did not [TS]

00:31:01   only to my body but for my soul every [TS]

00:31:05   aspect of being with Marlon was [TS]

00:31:07   thrilling [TS]

00:31:08   because he was more engaged in the world [TS]

00:31:10   than anyone else i've ever known [TS]

00:31:13   she writes I totally believe that mm I [TS]

00:31:16   think he feels I think he felt things [TS]

00:31:19   very very deeply well but she goes on [TS]

00:31:22   Khun possibly as an outgrowth of this [TS]

00:31:26   now this isn't quoting i'm not sure that [TS]

00:31:29   we're still post now i'm not sure how [TS]

00:31:31   the New York Post does its backchecking [TS]

00:31:34   yeah but she says or someone says the [TS]

00:31:39   New York Post writer says possibly as an [TS]

00:31:41   outgrowth of this he had insatiable [TS]

00:31:44   sexual needs which he unabashedly [TS]

00:31:47   pursued with droves of other women the [TS]

00:31:51   so here we are insatiable unabashedly [TS]

00:31:54   and droves [TS]

00:31:55   now that's broke my heart and came close [TS]

00:31:58   to crushing my very spirit with his [TS]

00:32:01   physical infidelity and worse with his [TS]

00:32:03   emotional betrayal so this all happened [TS]

00:32:05   before my dad before my dad met Rita [TS]

00:32:11   Moreno and maybe mm date md went on went [TS]

00:32:17   on date this is not getting simpler as a [TS]

00:32:19   story now know and so when he steps out [TS]

00:32:23   of the shadows right he's the guy that's [TS]

00:32:25   almost that's broken heart he's the guy [TS]

00:32:27   that's caused her to you know him crush [TS]

00:32:31   almost crusher very spirit and yet she [TS]

00:32:35   can't resist him and leaves my dad [TS]

00:32:39   standing just adjacent to the shadows [TS]

00:32:41   and adjacent to the shadows would be a [TS]

00:32:45   great huh [TS]

00:32:46   auto by our autobiography titled uh-huh [TS]

00:32:49   if you're going to drop the author board [TS]

00:32:51   and and then off they go into the night [TS]

00:32:56   and then that's where the story ends my [TS]

00:32:57   dad does not he does not follow up with [TS]

00:33:00   like well then the next day we had to [TS]

00:33:01   keep doing this play [TS]

00:33:03   he didn't say that was the last I ever [TS]

00:33:05   saw are you know there's always that [TS]

00:33:07   there's always the rest of the story [TS]

00:33:08   which a lot of times you don't get [TS]

00:33:10   because the dramatic moment isn't and [TS]

00:33:13   then we kept doing the play for two [TS]

00:33:14   weeks the dramatic moment is like [TS]

00:33:17   Marlon Brando she's good storytelling [TS]

00:33:19   yeah that's right but i dunno i have no [TS]

00:33:22   idea i'm and and the internet is silent [TS]

00:33:25   for the internet is the internet is [TS]

00:33:26   intentionally meet on the subject maybe [TS]

00:33:29   in the fullness of time your own [TS]

00:33:31   incredulous biographer will be able to [TS]

00:33:34   work on this i'm thinking here of [TS]

00:33:35   reading the the Alexander Hamilton [TS]

00:33:37   biography like all biographies it begins [TS]

00:33:40   way before that person was born if you [TS]

00:33:42   can do a biography you know well you [TS]

00:33:44   take for example the great album cover [TS]

00:33:45   Goldman biography of Elvis one of the [TS]

00:33:46   great biographies that begins with us [TS]

00:33:48   being fitted into a course in getting [TS]

00:33:50   his hand and getting his diarrhea [TS]

00:33:51   medicine before he goes on stage along [TS]

00:33:53   with the speed that sets the stage for [TS]

00:33:54   the Elvis you're gonna you're gonna get [TS]

00:33:55   here but most biography start a long [TS]

00:33:58   time before we're going to learn about [TS]

00:33:59   Alexander Hamilton's yet grandparents [TS]

00:34:01   before we learn about Alexander you know [TS]

00:34:03   I'm saying yeah yeah so with you I mean [TS]

00:34:05   obviously there's going to be some solid [TS]

00:34:07   David Roderick material but i don't know [TS]

00:34:09   i don't know we've talked about this [TS]

00:34:10   before like a little checks [TS]

00:34:12   it's not gonna make well but yeah I [TS]

00:34:14   don't think there's a check i don't [TS]

00:34:15   think it goes back as far as a checked [TS]

00:34:17   that would have liked on the bottom of [TS]

00:34:19   it you know dinner with Rita but Rita [TS]

00:34:23   Moreno in the same article references [TS]

00:34:25   being looked up and down by a by a [TS]

00:34:28   predatory animal who spotted his prey [TS]

00:34:31   and paralyzes it with that look and [TS]

00:34:34   later on she sees that same predatory [TS]

00:34:37   animal in the in Life Magazine turns out [TS]

00:34:40   john f kennedy hall dear and then after [TS]

00:34:43   Marlon Brando she dated a berry as she [TS]

00:34:47   describes him a very disappointing [TS]

00:34:50   dennis hopper and the lamb boy Elvis [TS]

00:34:54   i'll come on [TS]

00:34:56   so in addition to read aria in addition [TS]

00:34:59   to e got also relationships with with [TS]

00:35:03   the Elvis Marlon Brando and potentially [TS]

00:35:06   my dad although you know he never my dad [TS]

00:35:09   was not lascivious right he was like the [TS]

00:35:11   only also you know you have to you have [TS]

00:35:13   to remove these cataracts of history and [TS]

00:35:14   go well that's the dennis hopper the [TS]

00:35:16   fifties that's Elvis Presley of the [TS]

00:35:18   fifties and if you get your idea of [TS]

00:35:20   Elvis from the fat Elvis stamp man go [TS]

00:35:21   watch Elvis in like 56 it's a whole [TS]

00:35:23   different scene man look but yeah man [TS]

00:35:26   but even look at him in the 68 Comeback [TS]

00:35:27   68 Comeback now that synthetic means [TS]

00:35:29   again [TS]

00:35:31   but he but it but it doesn't read as [TS]

00:35:33   investment would he bring God brings he [TS]

00:35:35   bring some motherfucking ruckus in that [TS]

00:35:36   for shutdown he's got a lot of you know [TS]

00:35:39   why it does sir can you imagine how much [TS]

00:35:40   better your life would be if you get [TS]

00:35:41   Scotty Moore get Scotty Moore in count [TS]

00:35:44   basie I'm just saying you get some [TS]

00:35:46   tasteful people in your band to mention [TS]

00:35:48   the superb and you can have to if you [TS]

00:35:51   have if you have Scotty more on guitar [TS]

00:35:52   hero count basie on the keys who also [TS]

00:35:55   gonna bring in that band to have the [TS]

00:35:56   world's most tasteful backup band for [TS]

00:35:58   John Rother now Blaine how Blaine right [TS]

00:36:02   how blankie mentioned the patience of [TS]

00:36:04   that man how patient he must have been I [TS]

00:36:06   don't think of him as very patient [TS]

00:36:08   well he's had a lot of problems in the [TS]

00:36:09   cellars awards and stuff but you know [TS]

00:36:11   just having to go through all all of [TS]

00:36:14   like Phil Spector and Brian Wilson [TS]

00:36:16   making a beat with their mouth and say [TS]

00:36:17   and do that now change it uh-huh yeah [TS]

00:36:20   just yeah right like sitting in the room [TS]

00:36:22   while Brian Wilson goes 400 takes those [TS]

00:36:25   stories are so great just you see that [TS]

00:36:27   wrecking crew documentary but they would [TS]

00:36:29   just show up and it would just be like [TS]

00:36:30   dozens of people in the room perfect for [TS]

00:36:33   uppers just over and over and sometimes [TS]

00:36:36   nothing is Brian went to figure out how [TS]

00:36:38   to make it seem like a fire engine or [TS]

00:36:39   whatever [TS]

00:36:39   yeah Brian Brian would eat one reason [TS]

00:36:42   might look learn to play the theremin um [TS]

00:36:45   so yeah if i had how blame and Carol k [TS]

00:36:48   just sitting in chairs smoking [TS]

00:36:50   cigarettes at my shadow and the cat eye [TS]

00:36:52   sunglasses [TS]

00:36:53   uh yes I didn't read my story [TS]

00:36:57   yes and then Scotty Moore playing the [TS]

00:36:58   guitar well and speed proper playing you [TS]

00:37:00   don't mean you know if you have the [TS]

00:37:01   wrecking crew at your disposal [TS]

00:37:03   ok that's pretty good that's that's [TS]

00:37:05   pretty advanced right yeah right and the [TS]

00:37:08   and the and abandoned analyzed on [TS]

00:37:11   playing second base you think why is [TS]

00:37:13   that work tom petty that's not there [TS]

00:37:15   why not have the whole thing of being [TS]

00:37:17   recorded by george martin george more or [TS]

00:37:20   Nigel goodrich magic which you've been [TS]

00:37:22   watching sound breaking having you admit [TS]

00:37:26   i just discovered it last night how [TS]

00:37:29   fucking great sound breaking it's so [TS]

00:37:31   great I with more than you expect you [TS]

00:37:33   thinking this large another talking [TS]

00:37:34   heads music documentary but holy shit [TS]

00:37:36   it's so good helbling watched three [TS]

00:37:39   episodes right in a row [TS]

00:37:41   me too and I said this is really good [TS]

00:37:44   why why is this not why are there not [TS]

00:37:46   billboards in Times Square for this [TS]

00:37:48   why do we have to keep watching like me [TS]

00:37:51   Kevin James make more material and i'm [TS]

00:37:54   not opposed to kevin james but he [TS]

00:37:56   produces a lot of culture a lot pic i [TS]

00:37:59   think disproportionate with his what is [TS]

00:38:02   like is mm objective value right like [TS]

00:38:06   here's Kevin James he's fine he's good i [TS]

00:38:09   like impossible reason he's not sir [TS]

00:38:10   Kevin James but you don't even have an [TS]

00:38:13   OBE at all he's no he got but he's got [TS]

00:38:17   he's got he's got a new TV show where he [TS]

00:38:19   sits on the roof of his house in a in a [TS]

00:38:21   lawn chair and place a blue-collar guy [TS]

00:38:22   with it with a suspiciously life and now [TS]

00:38:27   he's in the subways here I see he's got [TS]

00:38:29   a movie where he's a like he's a [TS]

00:38:31   implausibly overweight like assassin [TS]

00:38:36   you've got a premise that's that strong [TS]

00:38:39   and you bring in a Kevin James at the [TS]

00:38:43   license to print money my friend [TS]

00:38:45   listen I'm gonna sell this in the room [TS]

00:38:46   CIA assassin ok get stuck in the door [TS]

00:38:50   food who now is a mall cop [TS]

00:38:55   yeah well some guys will have it a shot [TS]

00:39:00   and shove the charge mystery took you [TS]

00:39:03   have the universe documentary [TS]

00:39:05   yes I'm taneous contemporaneous with the [TS]

00:39:07   all this kevin james culture documentary [TS]

00:39:09   where they interview literally all of [TS]

00:39:13   the Giants of popular music and they're [TS]

00:39:16   all and and the the script for it is [TS]

00:39:19   just this sort of seamless beautiful [TS]

00:39:22   well into that steel two quick things my [TS]

00:39:24   friend is this a podcast with that with [TS]

00:39:26   TV critic Tim Goodman call TV talking [TS]

00:39:28   two things on a crib from him number one [TS]

00:39:30   soon [TS]

00:39:31   I guess when George Martin's involved [TS]

00:39:32   you can find some pretty fucking amazing [TS]

00:39:33   video footage that's right no better [TS]

00:39:35   right exists reduction come with that [TS]

00:39:37   come from but also the canny way that [TS]

00:39:39   it's not the usual [TS]

00:39:41   ok now let's talk about glam rock now [TS]

00:39:44   let's talk about new wave now let's talk [TS]

00:39:46   about blues just the stuff about Bessie [TS]

00:39:48   Bessie Jones right just like getting [TS]

00:39:50   like the q-tips got a thought on that [TS]

00:39:51   like every everywhere every person has a [TS]

00:39:54   not on this thing and you start to see [TS]

00:39:56   it and I think pretty fairly how the [TS]

00:39:58   pieces fit together right you listen I [TS]

00:40:01   mean Roger Waters is a very difficult [TS]

00:40:03   person he was so gracious in this i'm [TS]

00:40:05   not sure that was him he's beautiful in [TS]

00:40:07   this thing and he's like you so Roger [TS]

00:40:09   water says and just it comes it's cut [TS]

00:40:10   out of nowhere they're talking about [TS]

00:40:12   something completely else and then all [TS]

00:40:13   of a sudden Roger Waters it says when [TS]

00:40:15   they first played Sergeant Pepper all [TS]

00:40:16   the way through on the radio we people [TS]

00:40:18   off the road were on tour in a man it's [TS]

00:40:22   being floated on tour in a van [TS]

00:40:24   we pulled off to the side of the road to [TS]

00:40:25   listen to the entire album on the car [TS]

00:40:27   stereo and were like blown away and said [TS]

00:40:30   like how do we do next and you just go [TS]

00:40:34   uh-huh right boom like that people here [TS]

00:40:39   all the time sergeant pepper very [TS]

00:40:41   influential album [TS]

00:40:42   yeah but here's Roger Waters and you [TS]

00:40:45   know like in 1968 pink floyd and when [TS]

00:40:48   you think about think about what was [TS]

00:40:50   going on then with those homies yeah [TS]

00:40:53   here it is sergeant pepper in there like [TS]

00:40:55   its theatrical music its theater and yet [TS]

00:41:00   it's also pop music and go but also that [TS]

00:41:04   theme that keeps coming up probably [TS]

00:41:06   because it's very George Martin E that [TS]

00:41:08   concept that certainly reached its apex [TS]

00:41:10   with stealing damn the the concept of [TS]

00:41:12   making music that you can't play live [TS]

00:41:15   the idea is we're going to make [TS]

00:41:16   something here sergeant pepper is not [TS]

00:41:18   meant to be something where we go to [TS]

00:41:19   Shea Stadium with no monitors and yell [TS]

00:41:21   really loud [TS]

00:41:21   this is meant to be there are things [TS]

00:41:23   happening here that can actually happen [TS]

00:41:25   even with a real band [TS]

00:41:27   yeah that's touched it sits on your [TS]

00:41:30   rights to it in sorry i had to get a dig [TS]

00:41:32   it [TS]

00:41:33   you hired the hit maker yes in the car [TS]

00:41:36   what I what what I came away from the [TS]

00:41:38   three episodes with though I mean aside [TS]

00:41:40   from like 700 wonderful moments and [TS]

00:41:43   wonderful feelings was like watching [TS]

00:41:48   nigel godrich who was no older than the [TS]

00:41:53   radiohead bro he's so young [TS]

00:41:56   yeah and he's just in the studio with [TS]

00:42:00   them and they're just doing their thing [TS]

00:42:03   and [TS]

00:42:04   the collaborate the collaborative [TS]

00:42:06   feeling of making a record with a making [TS]

00:42:12   a record with somebody where it where it [TS]

00:42:15   also feels like they have all the time [TS]

00:42:18   in the world right there Lefty keeps [TS]

00:42:21   coming up of like making it like a safe [TS]

00:42:23   and secure place you can be vulnerable [TS]

00:42:24   you can try things [TS]

00:42:25   yeah and they're just a their member of [TS]

00:42:27   the band yeah and it's not a thing where [TS]

00:42:30   you say you know oh well we've only got [TS]

00:42:33   three more hours and then it all has to [TS]

00:42:36   you know we have to wrap it up because [TS]

00:42:39   there's another session in here and and [TS]

00:42:42   do bros gotta you know gotta make a [TS]

00:42:44   living [TS]

00:42:45   it's like we're in here until this gets [TS]

00:42:49   done [TS]

00:42:50   did you see the voice episode of yeah [TS]

00:42:54   we're adele is developing first time [TS]

00:42:57   I've ever really thought well sea diver [TS]

00:42:59   i watch that one twice and the first of [TS]

00:43:02   the second time i watched it I don't [TS]

00:43:04   know the christina aguilera think that's [TS]

00:43:05   a little bit contrived but the first [TS]

00:43:07   time I watched it I was really moved and [TS]

00:43:09   it reminded me of you a little bit and [TS]

00:43:11   your your philosophy of like we're not [TS]

00:43:12   going to this is not hound dog [TS]

00:43:14   we're not going to do this 42 times and [TS]

00:43:16   I don't know that story about her was [TS]

00:43:17   exactly true but it worked for me I [TS]

00:43:19   thought that was such a great bit even [TS]

00:43:21   if even if it was massage a little bit [TS]

00:43:23   who knows and apparel maker but but that [TS]

00:43:26   story of her wanting to redo her first [TS]

00:43:28   take the entire time that they were [TS]

00:43:30   recording and then settling on the last [TS]

00:43:32   one thing okay you can do it one more [TS]

00:43:33   time but don't stop after one minute [TS]

00:43:35   stop not as good as the first one stop [TS]

00:43:36   we're done [TS]

00:43:37   is that what did you think when you saw [TS]

00:43:38   that my so I wasn't able to see the [TS]

00:43:42   voice all the way through [TS]

00:43:43   oh gee sorry spoilers it's okay because [TS]

00:43:46   because my uh my roommate in my hotel [TS]

00:43:54   room here in New York City [TS]

00:43:56   let's call it my roommate yeah said at [TS]

00:43:59   four thirty in the morning and you turn [TS]

00:44:02   that down haha [TS]

00:44:04   after watching three straight episodes [TS]

00:44:07   of it haha planet what are you watching [TS]

00:44:09   it on we watching on ipad i know i was [TS]

00:44:11   watching on the hotel television because [TS]

00:44:13   it's a public television show on PBS [TS]

00:44:15   that he had like on demand [TS]

00:44:17   no it's on PBS it was just it i just [TS]

00:44:20   looked into it was just I was looking [TS]

00:44:22   through the channels watching procedure [TS]

00:44:24   all crime dramas and like autopsy [TS]

00:44:27   photographs cool i saw that their I've [TS]

00:44:29   been watching him in the PBS app they're [TS]

00:44:30   all up PS like a fucking just put them [TS]

00:44:32   all up but that's so cool so you were [TS]

00:44:33   watching him like wow that's exciting [TS]

00:44:34   that's even so online i'm flipping [TS]

00:44:36   through the channels right yeah and I [TS]

00:44:38   come upon episode 1 in the first minute [TS]

00:44:41   I look what's this I wonder match and [TS]

00:44:44   then like so three episodes later I hear [TS]

00:44:49   I hear this voice can you turn that down [TS]

00:44:52   and I ended my first reaction is you [TS]

00:44:55   have no idea what i'm watching here like [TS]

00:44:56   no I can't turn it down i should turn it [TS]

00:44:58   up yeah we should turn all the lights on [TS]

00:45:01   well now that exploded for you it's [TS]

00:45:02   basically a parrot Perry talking about [TS]

00:45:04   awaiting the weight I get what you're [TS]

00:45:06   saying [TS]

00:45:07   I understand what it is because of this [TS]

00:45:09   for many years within the music business [TS]

00:45:14   it has been fairly common barely [TS]

00:45:18   understood knowledge that christina [TS]

00:45:20   aguilera is the hardest-working singer [TS]

00:45:24   in the game her legs everybody agrees [TS]

00:45:29   everybody talks about it and and because [TS]

00:45:31   it sounds amazing at first you think [TS]

00:45:33   like I just she's just super talented [TS]

00:45:35   she shows up she has done little checks [TS]

00:45:38   out [TS]

00:45:38   yeah she's got some kind of cup of tea [TS]

00:45:41   over here she works for an hour and then [TS]

00:45:43   says you know fix it in the mix or [TS]

00:45:45   whatever but everybody says she's a [TS]

00:45:47   perfectionist and she just she works [TS]

00:45:49   harder than anybody else in the room and [TS]

00:45:52   as soon as Linda Perry showed up on the [TS]

00:45:55   screen [TS]

00:45:56   you know I have I she's very out she's [TS]

00:45:59   very outspoken she's done a lot of [TS]

00:46:01   amazing work in the music industry but [TS]

00:46:04   she's also someone who's wearing a hat [TS]

00:46:07   she's got a lot of neck tattoos and a [TS]

00:46:08   story yeah she's got a lot of neck to [TS]

00:46:10   she's got an unusual have anything like [TS]

00:46:12   that [TS]

00:46:13   yeah unusual hat I mean that's what [TS]

00:46:16   divorces me from for a little bit [TS]

00:46:18   John used to have yeah ben harper in [TS]

00:46:21   that episode also wearing a hat [TS]

00:46:23   he's got started to like happiness [TS]

00:46:24   towards he's got a story i'm saying you [TS]

00:46:27   know what I mean this is like this is [TS]

00:46:28   not the first time you've told this [TS]

00:46:30   anecdote that's [TS]

00:46:31   yeah do you remember the first Ben [TS]

00:46:33   Harper record I know Ben Harper's name [TS]

00:46:36   that's it [TS]

00:46:38   so ben harper now is a member of the [TS]

00:46:42   sort of horde to her culture right you [TS]

00:46:45   think of him now and somebody within the [TS]

00:46:49   john mayer school of like em a little [TS]

00:46:53   bit what I when I think of is like [TS]

00:46:54   greasy dentist office music you know [TS]

00:46:59   like it's not just dentist office music [TS]

00:47:00   it's a little bit greasy to like the [TS]

00:47:02   band train but it's just like it's on [TS]

00:47:05   but it's in the dentist office so it's [TS]

00:47:07   not offending anybody doesn't have been [TS]

00:47:09   middle-aged people that are getting the [TS]

00:47:10   peat cleaned but it's also trying to rep [TS]

00:47:14   that it's either rock or blues in some [TS]

00:47:17   kind of real spit in like oh this is the [TS]

00:47:21   blues and it's not about the Blues [TS]

00:47:23   something else it's something that [TS]

00:47:25   little greasy but the first Ben Harper [TS]

00:47:28   record was because ben harper and erick [TS]

00:47:32   is almost exactly the same age I think [TS]

00:47:34   and it came out in the nineties not even [TS]

00:47:37   the late nineties and it was really good [TS]

00:47:41   it was a huge this young guy that was [TS]

00:47:43   playing lap steel at a time when kind of [TS]

00:47:45   nobody was playing lap steel and it had [TS]

00:47:48   these good tunes on it and 1992 yeah and [TS]

00:47:51   it was being played in all the cool [TS]

00:47:55   Seattle cafes it was like it was it did [TS]

00:47:59   feel like here's a here's a guy that is [TS]

00:48:01   doing something nobody else is doing is [TS]

00:48:03   very authentic and these are good teams [TS]

00:48:05   right it felt like the 1st Lenny Kravitz [TS]

00:48:06   record where you're like what is this [TS]

00:48:08   guy huh [TS]

00:48:09   he's even better than terence trent [TS]

00:48:10   d'arby but then as time goes on [TS]

00:48:14   somehow they pick their they picked [TS]

00:48:17   their culture it's not what you think [TS]

00:48:18   their culture is going to be or maybe [TS]

00:48:19   their culture picks them [TS]

00:48:21   I've told you have an eye about the time [TS]

00:48:23   like modest mouse in seattle and in the [TS]

00:48:26   nineties was very cool young funky weird [TS]

00:48:32   band doing some weird weird in angular [TS]

00:48:34   yeah kind of kind of that initially [TS]

00:48:36   there a little bit like almost parallel [TS]

00:48:38   hubli yet right Isaac Brock would buy [TS]

00:48:40   the cheapest guitar he could find with a [TS]

00:48:42   with a whammy bar he would take the [TS]

00:48:44   whammy bar [TS]

00:48:45   off and he would put his hand under the [TS]

00:48:48   floating bridge at the back of the [TS]

00:48:49   guitar and would manually whammy the [TS]

00:48:53   bridge well we're wrong why don't we [TS]

00:48:55   like he was he was doing that now with a [TS]

00:48:57   whammy bar but just with the palm of his [TS]

00:48:59   hand the butt of his hand it was like [TS]

00:49:02   that kids doing something that nobody [TS]

00:49:03   else is doing and then I was act i was [TS]

00:49:06   at the show which I think was the [TS]

00:49:09   turning point for modest mouse which was [TS]

00:49:11   one day they were playing the crocodile [TS]

00:49:13   cafe for their usual they expected their [TS]

00:49:15   usual audience of 240 people and it was [TS]

00:49:20   not their usual audience there was a [TS]

00:49:21   sold-out show 350 people and the [TS]

00:49:25   additional hundred people were all [TS]

00:49:29   wearing white baseball caps backwards [TS]

00:49:32   and modest mouse took the stage and were [TS]

00:49:35   like whoa who are you and the hundred [TS]

00:49:38   people went Wow modest mouse looked on [TS]

00:49:44   stage horrified they looked as horrified [TS]

00:49:46   as the as we were in the audience like [TS]

00:49:48   who are these guys and it was the bros n [TS]

00:49:54   roses he discovered them the bros [TS]

00:49:57   discovered modest mouse and the bros [TS]

00:50:00   came at where formerly there had been no [TS]

00:50:02   bros there were now bros and the next [TS]

00:50:07   time modest mouse played the 240 people [TS]

00:50:10   who had followed their careers up until [TS]

00:50:13   that point were gone and in their place [TS]

00:50:15   were 900 bros and off they went I mean [TS]

00:50:21   that was their career and you could you [TS]

00:50:23   could tell they didn't want that you [TS]

00:50:25   know you can see on their faces like no [TS]

00:50:26   no no we want to we want the bar friends [TS]

00:50:31   but you don't get to pick your audience [TS]

00:50:33   and I wonder if that didn't happen to [TS]

00:50:36   Ben Harper where been hyper was like wow [TS]

00:50:39   what a while and one day they were all [TS]

00:50:43   all these like joe michaels or dave [TS]

00:50:46   michaels or what's in st. Michael's LOL [TS]

00:50:50   yea jacket jacket right jack jack jack [TS]

00:50:54   touch and then they were all there [TS]

00:50:58   and uh and then it's like well you know [TS]

00:51:00   but you don't get to pick your audience [TS]

00:51:02   you gotta you gotta play for the people [TS]

00:51:04   that are buying the ticket lots of [TS]

00:51:08   crowded West came out in 1997 at least [TS]

00:51:12   that's the first 1i owned i think one [TS]

00:51:17   before that was a dub narcotic with a [TS]

00:51:20   candle in 1k the they did everything [TS]

00:51:24   right [TS]

00:51:24   oh I mean in the in those early early [TS]

00:51:27   days it's not that they did everything [TS]

00:51:29   right it's that everybody liked them [TS]

00:51:31   yeah they were quirky they were really [TS]

00:51:35   good and you know I I they they made an [TS]

00:51:38   album that never they made some [TS]

00:51:40   recordings that never came out that are [TS]

00:51:41   kind of owned by a friend of mines that [TS]

00:51:43   still sit on his shelf on tape and he [TS]

00:51:46   said that when they were 19 years old [TS]

00:51:48   they were literally sniffing glue [TS]

00:51:51   huh and that feels very authentic yeah [TS]

00:51:53   like glue sniffing hmm [TS]

00:51:56   right sure that's like wow you got it [TS]

00:51:59   you got to kind of stop and put your [TS]

00:52:01   finger on your chin and stare up at the [TS]

00:52:03   ceiling after certain age that when [TS]

00:52:05   you're doing and what you're doing it to [TS]

00:52:07   be cool [TS]

00:52:07   you're just sniffing glue because we [TS]

00:52:10   think they'll never catch on in New York [TS]

00:52:12   I mean as it is right now [TS]

00:52:14   last time i was in new york i just felt [TS]

00:52:16   like everybody was smoking and now I'm [TS]

00:52:18   here in San Francisco for smoking might [TS]

00:52:20   as well be masturbating into a back its [TS]

00:52:23   it really looks like you said look I'm [TS]

00:52:25   so sorry i just got 10 minutes i'm [TS]

00:52:27   really stressed out you know anyone [TS]

00:52:29   who's anyone could get hot you never [TS]

00:52:31   know if you like New York really really [TS]

00:52:34   doesn't just is just doesn't care [TS]

00:52:40   and it's not ever going to care I [TS]

00:52:42   remember one smoking was first outlawed [TS]

00:52:44   in Los Angeles and there were all these [TS]

00:52:47   bars where they so Los Angeles used to [TS]

00:52:50   have a thing I don't think it does it [TS]

00:52:52   anymore [TS]

00:52:52   but it used to be very fashionable in LA [TS]

00:52:55   to turn the lights down in the bar so [TS]

00:52:57   low that you felt like you were in a [TS]

00:53:00   catacomb could walk into a normal bar [TS]

00:53:03   that normal couches and people sitting [TS]

00:53:06   around and the lights were so freaking [TS]

00:53:07   well they couldn't he was like you can't [TS]

00:53:11   really navigate this social space [TS]

00:53:12   because if everyone is just in shadow [TS]

00:53:15   very safe it was not it didn't feel I [TS]

00:53:19   was not and that you know I was rock and [TS]

00:53:21   roll but I was not that comfortable [TS]

00:53:23   being in a room with 300 people that I [TS]

00:53:26   couldn't see because of dark not because [TS]

00:53:30   if it was stranded people I couldn't see [TS]

00:53:31   because of smoked a line chart and [TS]

00:53:34   people I couldn't see before organic [TS]

00:53:36   that's more like a grassroots kind of [TS]

00:53:38   darkness [TS]

00:53:38   yeah smoking up smoke it up but when [TS]

00:53:41   smoking was first outlawed in Los [TS]

00:53:43   Angeles there were all these bars where [TS]

00:53:44   it was clear that that somebody said [TS]

00:53:46   we're just not going to force that and [TS]

00:53:49   so there was suddenly not just not just [TS]

00:53:51   the normal amount of smoking is cool but [TS]

00:53:55   now this additional like smoking is [TS]

00:53:57   illegal [TS]

00:53:59   I don't think that I don't think that [TS]

00:54:00   goes on in la anymore i think that that [TS]

00:54:02   was very that was very brief and then [TS]

00:54:04   people realized women were la like wheat [TS]

00:54:06   per capita 40 avocados a week remember [TS]

00:54:12   capital that's a lot of condos you know [TS]

00:54:14   yeah you know that's why of that's why [TS]

00:54:16   global warming is that right yeah [TS]

00:54:18   because of the avocados avocados you can [TS]

00:54:21   get in California but people in 40 a day [TS]

00:54:24   what you got yet probably have a 90 [TS]

00:54:25   million people in LA so many million [TS]

00:54:28   people something like the times x 40 [TS]

00:54:30   avocados a day that's like 3600 avocados [TS]

00:54:32   easy so that's why global warming haha [TS]

00:54:36   yes [TS]

00:54:37   not because there's not the kind of [TS]

00:54:38   journalism that we used to have now and [TS]

00:54:41   the smoke is probably not helping i see [TS]

00:54:43   i think the smoking is out [TS]

00:54:44   oh is it turns out John I'm looking out [TS]

00:54:47   started smoking again i'm looking at [TS]

00:54:50   sniffing glue here on the internet [TS]

00:54:52   locker room you don't see locker room [TS]

00:54:54   and rush like he is too with locker room [TS]

00:54:58   oh yeah I've heard them called amyl [TS]

00:54:59   nitrates I think the poppers but we just [TS]

00:55:02   get a bottle of it and start it right [TS]

00:55:04   out of the box [TS]

00:55:05   all you're telling me that used to snort [TS]

00:55:07   amyl nitrate I didn't know that's what [TS]

00:55:09   it was called then I I see four years i [TS]

00:55:11   heard angle nitrate as the drug that you [TS]

00:55:13   would use in a gay bar today [TS]

00:55:15   well see to me you would go to it i [TS]

00:55:17   don't know i never knew why you went to [TS]

00:55:19   a sex shop to get it but you would go to [TS]

00:55:21   a sex shop and you play something on the [TS]

00:55:23   order of five to eight dollars for a [TS]

00:55:24   bottle of in Florida was called rush in [TS]

00:55:26   most other places it was called locker [TS]

00:55:28   room [TS]

00:55:29   oh my god locker room locker room holy [TS]

00:55:32   shit never occur to me till now so yeah [TS]

00:55:34   right God's right it's right here on the [TS]

00:55:36   label Bingbing you know you and you can [TS]

00:55:38   you could snort that and I you know I [TS]

00:55:40   used to do a fair amount that you clumsy [TS]

00:55:42   ox my sense of smell nitrate was that it [TS]

00:55:45   was a thing that you did right as you [TS]

00:55:46   were orgasm [TS]

00:55:47   yeah and and it turned your you know [TS]

00:55:50   talk about jacking off in a bag [TS]

00:55:52   yeah I control the whole thing into like [TS]

00:55:55   a well-liked man on Coney Island it was [TS]

00:55:58   a lot to recommend it yes certainly [TS]

00:56:00   you're gonna have a brain-damaged [TS]

00:56:01   situation but but the beauty of it was [TS]

00:56:02   you could take it you could pretty [TS]

00:56:04   easily get that into a concert and you [TS]

00:56:06   can keep it in your car and it was the [TS]

00:56:08   kind of thing where like if you smoked a [TS]

00:56:09   doobie you're gonna have lots of smoke [TS]

00:56:11   and stuff but like with with with locker [TS]

00:56:14   room you get really super-high for like [TS]

00:56:16   90 seconds and in Gila headache and it [TS]

00:56:17   goes away you do it again [TS]

00:56:19   soccer room locker room you know the [TS]

00:56:22   inhalant of choice in Alaska at the time [TS]

00:56:24   was nitrous oxide and we would go to the [TS]

00:56:27   party sometimes that's made a comeback [TS]

00:56:28   we find a lot of those on the street [TS]

00:56:30   here [TS]

00:56:30   nitrous yep it's a column yeah we but we [TS]

00:56:34   would go we don't we need weapons but we [TS]

00:56:36   also went to the party supply store and [TS]

00:56:39   would buy like a canister besides pretty [TS]

00:56:42   costly if you buy a man with it [TS]

00:56:44   format even if you've got a cracker in a [TS]

00:56:46   balloon that's that gets pretty costly [TS]

00:56:48   yeah you so we that's why we would buy [TS]

00:56:50   them in these like fire extinguisher [TS]

00:56:52   sized you can't you saying you cut out [TS]

00:56:54   the middleman cut out the middleman mhm [TS]

00:56:56   and we'd say we're putting on up [TS]

00:56:58   we're doing a party for our high school [TS]

00:57:00   home and we'd like to buy a thing of [TS]

00:57:02   this for our balloons and they would be [TS]

00:57:03   like here you go son have a good time [TS]

00:57:06   now with cream party and then there was [TS]

00:57:08   an adapter [TS]

00:57:09   mhm you would screw on it that would [TS]

00:57:11   allow you to fill up balloons and of [TS]

00:57:13   course how do you use nitrous oxide you [TS]

00:57:15   fill up a balloon we switch balloons you [TS]

00:57:17   think about going [TS]

00:57:18   shopping buy this thing we call it a [TS]

00:57:19   cracker what is this thing that there [TS]

00:57:21   was a bespoke item laconic brass [TS]

00:57:23   knuckles you open it up and stick the [TS]

00:57:25   little whip it in there and then you had [TS]

00:57:26   a our kids punch balloon attached to [TS]

00:57:28   that [TS]

00:57:29   yeah points and classic ugly drug [TS]

00:57:31   paraphernalia [TS]

00:57:32   yeah but we never no one was hip to amyl [TS]

00:57:36   nitrate in Alaska we were too busy doing [TS]

00:57:38   nitrous let alone and I think nitrous so [TS]

00:57:43   it's nice it's wit very superior it's a [TS]

00:57:47   wonderful wonderful high if you've never [TS]

00:57:48   tried it i highly recommend it and I'm [TS]

00:57:50   not a doctor I'm not a medical doctor [TS]

00:57:52   friend introduced me to nitrous oxide [TS]

00:57:54   and dancing siouxsie and the banshees [TS]

00:57:55   and I never looked back [TS]

00:57:56   I was listening to Siouxsie and the [TS]

00:57:58   Banshees the other day yeah said their [TS]

00:58:00   lives and uh well matter and i'll tell [TS]

00:58:08   you if we don't know imagine that [TS]

00:58:09   imagine get the 12 inch of that the [TS]

00:58:11   really long version [TS]

00:58:12   yeah you doing some nitrous think about [TS]

00:58:13   that for a minute buddy i am thinking [TS]

00:58:15   about it i miss you at least want to [TS]

00:58:17   masturbate in the bag [TS]

00:58:18   I lived it lived it and I it's also you [TS]

00:58:25   know nitrous oxide is very good with [TS]

00:58:26   with classic classic era of British [TS]

00:58:29   heavy metal [TS]

00:58:30   oh yeah yeah yeah and it's I can also [TS]

00:58:33   well i'm not suggesting this I don't [TS]

00:58:34   think it's a good idea but it can also [TS]

00:58:36   be nice when you're super high [TS]

00:58:38   ok so this is this is the thing and this [TS]

00:58:40   is what I've never fully legit dr pepper [TS]

00:58:42   with that what you used to drink dr. [TS]

00:58:44   pepper is that right yeah well mountain [TS]

00:58:45   dew unnecessary monday and then dr. [TS]

00:58:47   pepper as as time went on I said look [TS]

00:58:50   mountains for kids [TS]

00:58:52   yeah a dr pepper is a sophisticated [TS]

00:58:54   drink sophisticated because because it's [TS]

00:58:58   old and you feel like an old-world drink [TS]

00:59:01   it's an old-world drink you think of you [TS]

00:59:02   know like an old man is going to order a [TS]

00:59:04   dr pepper and a soda fountain [TS]

00:59:05   yeah it's got like a pretty taste [TS]

00:59:07   nobody's gonna order a mountain dew this [TS]

00:59:08   I mean mountain dew is like it if you're [TS]

00:59:11   down in the different and strange [TS]

00:59:12   fucking MOOCs in cheeps fuck that if [TS]

00:59:15   you're if you're in the Appalachians and [TS]

00:59:16   you say mountain dew you might get a [TS]

00:59:18   moonshot oh are you might get my get a [TS]

00:59:21   bottle of crystal meth [TS]

00:59:22   I bet it's one of those things where [TS]

00:59:23   somebody call namespace pollution I bet [TS]

00:59:25   there's a lot of things called Mountain [TS]

00:59:26   Dew and be real careful which order and [TS]

00:59:29   on whom I bet if you're in the Panhandle [TS]

00:59:31   in san francisco and you ask the iphone [TS]

00:59:32   mountain dew you're going to get a sheet [TS]

00:59:33   of blotter acid coordinate your hand [TS]

00:59:36   here or you're in a bag of that hand you [TS]

00:59:39   the bag gonna rush guys North this while [TS]

00:59:43   urinating on we gotta get a mountain dew [TS]

00:59:45   no ice [TS]

00:59:47   I feel I feel like the thing about [TS]

00:59:50   nitrous oxide when you're watching when [TS]

00:59:53   you're watching a movie in the speed or [TS]

00:59:57   rush sonra right where some [TS]

00:59:57   rush sonra right where some [TS]

01:00:00   young people are driving some fast cars [TS]

01:00:02   ok some like gone and gone in 30 seconds [TS]

01:00:06   yeah or whatever the feathers found in [TS]

01:00:08   the angry yeah gone in 15 seconds 15 [TS]

01:00:10   seconds and then that then the following [TS]

01:00:12   movie was gone 11 seconds 15-5 so all of [TS]

01:00:16   those all of those movies those racers [TS]

01:00:18   movies yeah you'll notice that they [TS]

01:00:21   often have a bottle of nitrous oxide as [TS]

01:00:24   a performance enhancer yeah right but [TS]

01:00:27   where they shoot nitrous into their car [TS]

01:00:30   and it somehow i think the way it works [TS]

01:00:33   is that it somehow it just uh Evel [TS]

01:00:38   Knievel has given talks about this you [TS]

01:00:39   can use to say you don't be doing drugs [TS]

01:00:41   that's like doing pure nitrous now nux [TS]

01:00:43   when nuts hit the pedal to get the extra [TS]

01:00:45   speed in fury road is that nitrous [TS]

01:00:47   probably yes [TS]

01:00:48   knocks knocks nitrous oxide right and no [TS]

01:00:51   ass and yeah I like densify the fuel or [TS]

01:00:56   something and then at work ones and then [TS]

01:00:58   you're all of a sudden you're slammed [TS]

01:01:00   back into the back of your chair at my [TS]

01:01:02   don't have power potential mangel bar [TS]

01:01:04   yep yep and and i'm good i'm gonna go [TS]

01:01:07   out on a limb here and say that the if [TS]

01:01:09   even one of those movies when the [TS]

01:01:11   nitrous button gets pushed you have the [TS]

01:01:13   person that goes into the lead at that [TS]

01:01:15   moment is not going to win the race [TS]

01:01:17   oh my yeah yeah yeahs oil mm-hmm [TS]

01:01:21   but so I have found that nitrous is acts [TS]

01:01:25   similarly as a power enhancer for other [TS]

01:01:29   drugs like marijuana if you do some [TS]

01:01:32   marijuana and then you push the button [TS]

01:01:34   on some nitrous yeah you're going to get [TS]

01:01:37   more stone more hot and he would have an [TS]

01:01:41   additive quality right around now I'm [TS]

01:01:44   sure there are people listening to this [TS]

01:01:45   program we were like why are these two [TS]

01:01:47   advocating drugs i can well we're not [TS]

01:01:48   but i can tell you why because our [TS]

01:01:50   marijuana is not your marijuana [TS]

01:01:52   mm that's right want to you by you by [TS]

01:01:54   that's fucking crazy as marijuana you [TS]

01:01:57   people he loved your marijuana get [TS]

01:01:58   forget it i had stuff like that maybe [TS]

01:02:01   once in my life maybe your top of the [TS]

01:02:04   chronic i am talking about the chronic [TS]

01:02:06   didn't that the medical grade as they [TS]

01:02:09   said [TS]

01:02:09   yeah i'm talking about the Matanuska [TS]

01:02:12   thunderfuck operations I'm i wanted i [TS]

01:02:15   went to a drug screening of the day [TS]

01:02:16   first time I've been in 1i draw anymore [TS]

01:02:18   i want to know the story of drug the [TS]

01:02:21   story of the ok tienda de les drugs they [TS]

01:02:24   lost wrongs and I said to the guy leaned [TS]

01:02:28   on the counter you know kind of casual [TS]

01:02:30   because I don't belong there [TS]

01:02:31   right because i haven't done any drugs [TS]

01:02:32   in 20 years now but I'm there were some [TS]

01:02:34   friends they wanted to go to the [TS]

01:02:36   drugstore [TS]

01:02:36   hey we're in seattle can we go to the [TS]

01:02:38   drugstore mhm I was like Charlotte the [TS]

01:02:40   drugstore I know where one is i know [TS]

01:02:42   gallon owns one we go and we're leaning [TS]

01:02:44   there and they've got some they've got [TS]

01:02:46   some pot people working behind the [TS]

01:02:47   counter and my friends are looking at [TS]

01:02:49   all the stuff that you can buy bubblegum [TS]

01:02:51   and bubble yum and there's a their bath [TS]

01:02:54   salts that are infused with pot [TS]

01:02:56   Taiwanese face pollution you know what I [TS]

01:02:58   mean like like face cream and condom [TS]

01:03:01   utilize the store of drugs in order bath [TS]

01:03:04   salts and give you marijuana things to [TS]

01:03:05   put in the bath [TS]

01:03:06   it looks like a bath salt its acts like [TS]

01:03:10   a bag about salt it smells like Bath ok [TS]

01:03:13   but its full park [TS]

01:03:14   okay but it's not the face-eating kind i [TS]

01:03:18   don't think that i think the jury's [TS]

01:03:19   still out on that face eating stuff ya [TS]

01:03:21   know that was in Tallahassee yeah the [TS]

01:03:24   first one or the second I don't know [TS]

01:03:25   did you hear about the second one was [TS]

01:03:27   another one yeah the first one was the [TS]

01:03:29   was the first one where the guy got shot [TS]

01:03:31   and socks face-eating but there was [TS]

01:03:35   another one recently a boy a young man [TS]

01:03:37   who was a trump supporter freaked out in [TS]

01:03:41   again in Florida yeah unclear whether [TS]

01:03:44   you suck sorry about pans and he also [TS]

01:03:47   ate someone's face the flock out what [TS]

01:03:49   they call it was flaca flaca is that the [TS]

01:03:52   name of Flaco Flaco or bath salts of [TS]

01:03:55   Flaco Flaco Fla AKA fly really liked is [TS]

01:03:59   like a tease dance records flock [TS]

01:04:01   together play the pan-flute John mm the [TS]

01:04:03   pin flute cry realism hear it leaked a [TS]

01:04:07   Enrique swallowed a and wreak a simpler [TS]

01:04:11   I'm really know your rights and pure he [TS]

01:04:13   was the master [TS]

01:04:13   zamfir jacket he's not the only one to [TS]

01:04:18   play the pan-flute oh yeah he's a [TS]

01:04:20   self-proclaimed master of the pan so I [TS]

01:04:22   don't think it's like I don't think it's [TS]

01:04:23   like a river dance lord of the dance [TS]

01:04:26   we're clearly Michael finally is is is [TS]

01:04:28   the lord of the dance we really have you [TS]

01:04:31   ever seen him dance did the Queen only [TS]

01:04:34   met either bae i feel like if your lord [TS]

01:04:37   of the dance that you should use that [TS]

01:04:39   property and maybe like a member of [TS]

01:04:41   parliament [TS]

01:04:42   that's right that's exactly right here [TS]

01:04:44   you should be in the House of Lords if [TS]

01:04:45   you're the Lord of the day and I haven't [TS]

01:04:47   seen the end of the crown I still got [TS]

01:04:48   one episode left so maybe Michael [TS]

01:04:50   Michael priorities of boxers you wanna [TS]

01:04:51   fuck with that guy that's what i heard [TS]

01:04:52   doesn't stand in a clearing [TS]

01:04:55   oh yeah um you know what you can watch [TS]

01:05:00   on youtube and my daughter i watch this [TS]

01:05:02   twice a month you can go and see the [TS]

01:05:04   final performance of Riverdance from [TS]

01:05:06   circa nineteen ninety-six and it's a [TS]

01:05:08   it's breathtaking be like the final [TS]

01:05:10   performance of the Riverdance is what we [TS]

01:05:12   were all waiting for [TS]

01:05:13   mm-hmm did you find a breathtaking be [TS]

01:05:16   clapping club club club of of that dance [TS]

01:05:18   haha ah it's not stop property running [TS]

01:05:21   their lines could be a little bit [TS]

01:05:22   straighter but given credit you know [TS]

01:05:23   they've been at it for years things we [TS]

01:05:25   got burned out on that because it's [TS]

01:05:26   always in TV commercials for years but [TS]

01:05:27   then i finally watched it on YouTube and [TS]

01:05:29   I was like this is pretty good also the [TS]

01:05:31   lady dancing with them i saw single [TS]

01:05:33   check out the latest dance with him she [TS]

01:05:35   looks like she smells good shape [TS]

01:05:37   deceived you Waldo [TS]

01:05:39   yep i wanted a Torino I that reader [TS]

01:05:42   marina smells good [TS]

01:05:43   I bet she doesn't clog dance though [TS]

01:05:45   you've seen her dance [TS]

01:05:47   oh yeah everything from anoka west side [TS]

01:05:50   story i highly recommend you pick up we [TS]

01:05:53   watched it the daughter has seen we have [TS]

01:05:54   watched this movie we like this movie [TS]

01:05:56   like the new from the first cigarettes [TS]

01:05:58   your last time day I i was on youtube [TS]

01:06:02   for whatever reason for whatever reason [TS]

01:06:03   that anybody who spent a lot of time on [TS]

01:06:05   youtube and i saw a thing where there [TS]

01:06:08   were it was it was some kind of show and [TS]

01:06:10   i'm going to say Broadway asked show [TS]

01:06:12   more off-broadway show where a group of [TS]

01:06:16   hip-hop dancers and a group of river [TS]

01:06:20   dancers [TS]

01:06:21   had a sort of dance off West Side Story [TS]

01:06:25   style [TS]

01:06:26   mhm where they were beefing some kind of [TS]

01:06:30   beef and then one guy went oh yeah well [TS]

01:06:34   company property pops and then the other [TS]

01:06:37   guy went oh yeah well [TS]

01:06:38   oh no was tap it wasn't it wasn't [TS]

01:06:41   hip-hop dance it was tap but done in a [TS]

01:06:45   contemporary style it's a different app [TS]

01:06:47   versus urban tap like yeah like tap but [TS]

01:06:50   but with a lot of with a lot of hip-hop [TS]

01:06:52   shading mhm and then Riverdance but in a [TS]

01:06:57   sort of like this is just how we do in [TS]

01:06:59   Ireland this is just were sitting around [TS]

01:07:02   this is our urban dance style when [TS]

01:07:05   things get a little rough in belfast [TS]

01:07:06   yeah Candice I think it's a regular iron [TS]

01:07:09   isn't in Northern Ireland thing I [TS]

01:07:10   thought it was a regular Ireland thing [TS]

01:07:12   oh I'm going to say I'm gonna go with [TS]

01:07:15   you and say regular Ireland you know [TS]

01:07:17   there are regular Irish up in belfast to [TS]

01:07:19   not all the Orangemen mm but so it was a [TS]

01:07:24   it was very entertaining show where [TS]

01:07:25   there was like you know some savvy on [TS]

01:07:28   clover style as deputy deputy dap yeah I [TS]

01:07:31   love that stuff left and then then then [TS]

01:07:34   clapping clapping clapping over here and [TS]

01:07:36   for a brief moment in the middle of the [TS]

01:07:39   show you think all these are these are [TS]

01:07:43   similar [TS]

01:07:44   there's there's similar talent required [TS]

01:07:46   to do these styles rightly property [TS]

01:07:49   coppers are really moving fast and doing [TS]

01:07:52   lots of stuff and then the tap a dances [TS]

01:07:56   you know like also we all love tap turns [TS]

01:07:58   but then as the show progresses the tap [TS]

01:08:02   dancers cannot help themselves and they [TS]

01:08:06   just school [TS]

01:08:08   the Irish dancer you all just really [TS]

01:08:09   just lay waste to them and it's not part [TS]

01:08:12   of its not meant to happen it's not part [TS]

01:08:14   of this that the show is meant to be [TS]

01:08:16   like see these two traditions of club [TS]

01:08:19   dancing there's the same but in fact the [TS]

01:08:22   tap dancers were a thousand times better [TS]

01:08:25   dancers and they just you know they just [TS]

01:08:28   couldn't stop [TS]

01:08:29   I drink that exactly doing poppet about [TS]

01:08:32   up and then there's because they are [TS]

01:08:34   capable of so much more polyrhythm [TS]

01:08:37   there's so much more like off accent and [TS]

01:08:44   like smooth like like style and you're [TS]

01:08:46   allowed to use your arms in your arms [TS]

01:08:49   you can do and you can slide there's [TS]

01:08:51   almost sort of sliding and like you're [TS]

01:08:53   dancing on the on the sand and then that [TS]

01:08:57   caused me once I realized the tap [TS]

01:08:59   dancing was just empirically superior to [TS]

01:09:03   all other dance who then I went down and [TS]

01:09:05   tap dancing YouTube rabbit hole where [TS]

01:09:08   you're watching like some of the Great's [TS]

01:09:10   the tap great you know its name and that [TS]

01:09:13   was his name and jacket what's-his-name [TS]

01:09:15   Nick Gregory object if not greater [TS]

01:09:18   behind the grounds jacket yeah but the [TS]

01:09:20   guys but the guys that Gregor that were [TS]

01:09:22   like the Gregory Hines was paying [TS]

01:09:25   respect to like the the that you know [TS]

01:09:27   the originator or maybe not the [TS]

01:09:29   originals but that generation which [TS]

01:09:31   angles robinson type situation [TS]

01:09:33   mmm they were they were all like 75 when [TS]

01:09:38   Gregory Hines was right and he's like [TS]

01:09:43   i'd like to introduce to you the man [TS]

01:09:44   that taught me everything is so huge and [TS]

01:09:46   tap dancing that's right he's he was he [TS]

01:09:49   brought tap-dancing forward very hot but [TS]

01:09:52   but had great reverence for the people [TS]

01:09:54   that came before [TS]

01:09:55   that's right the river i like them so [TS]

01:09:57   they were there were there was there is [TS]

01:09:59   a lot of footage on youtube of like the [TS]

01:10:01   Masters the old school masters of tap [TS]

01:10:04   and they all have different styles and [TS]

01:10:06   there's there's some mold there's some [TS]

01:10:07   show where a bunch of these guys at 80 [TS]

01:10:11   years old [TS]

01:10:12   we're all doing a little bit of tap [TS]

01:10:14   battle against each other and AH talk [TS]

01:10:17   about charming but that's classy as hell [TS]

01:10:19   i watched it and I got pregnant [TS]

01:10:22   m3m complicated times [TS]

01:10:29   I feel like I feel like siouxsie and the [TS]

01:10:31   banshees are becoming more important to [TS]

01:10:36   me as time goes on [TS]

01:10:37   oh and I don't know how that can be true [TS]

01:10:42   because i didn't like I like them but I [TS]

01:10:47   didn't feel like they were and you know [TS]

01:10:50   they were like a sub cure [TS]

01:10:52   well they were as an American I was a [TS]

01:10:55   huge fan actually cities in dust was the [TS]

01:10:57   first season and cheese thing I got into [TS]

01:10:59   I I then went back and the other stuff [TS]

01:11:02   but they're in a weird place it from an [TS]

01:11:03   American standpoint because like you [TS]

01:11:04   might know she's kind of famous for [TS]

01:11:06   being like an original punk you might [TS]

01:11:08   know they're kind of famous because [TS]

01:11:09   Robert cures in the band Robert now old [TS]

01:11:12   General Robert Robert jacket was in the [TS]

01:11:14   band room for like a year right [TS]

01:11:17   yep early no I think I think maybe kind [TS]

01:11:21   of around that time like around the [TS]

01:11:22   ethical he took some time off from from [TS]

01:11:24   the curb and but but but they're in a [TS]

01:11:27   weird place so they kinda that God are [TS]

01:11:29   they one they dance it's kinda weird but [TS]

01:11:32   they're such a perfect fit for England [TS]

01:11:34   in some ways but in America they're kind [TS]

01:11:36   of like you know neither fish nor fowl [TS]

01:11:37   unless your super fan fiction fluence [TS]

01:11:40   I'm like God got kids Hopkins yeah [TS]

01:11:43   that's right now only 90s kids would [TS]

01:11:44   hmm I feel like gary numan and Human [TS]

01:11:50   League and your rhythm makes we're all [TS]

01:11:56   on my side of the line that I drew [TS]

01:11:59   somewhere without knowing someone in the [TS]

01:12:03   sand [TS]

01:12:04   I drew a line mhm and gary numan and [TS]

01:12:06   Human League and the rhythms were on the [TS]

01:12:08   side of the line that I dug em but like [TS]

01:12:14   depeche mode and many of those like [TS]

01:12:17   bands that most people might know from [TS]

01:12:19   one hit song they have not just meaning [TS]

01:12:22   more songs that you may not have heard [TS]

01:12:24   but we're in other bands before you got [TS]

01:12:26   to boy army got the tourists you got all [TS]

01:12:28   this great music that like never [TS]

01:12:29   surfaced over here [TS]

01:12:30   yeah right but there was but there was [TS]

01:12:33   also a line of seriousness and somehow [TS]

01:12:36   even though flock of seagulls were [TS]

01:12:38   really derided at the time for their [TS]

01:12:40   silly hair [TS]

01:12:41   I always include its flock of seagulls [TS]

01:12:44   on the side human league with mixed [TS]

01:12:49   green human flock of seagulls [TS]

01:12:51   I i accepted those bands and enjoy them [TS]

01:12:54   even if I was quiet about it [TS]

01:12:56   yeah yeahs Depeche Mode Thompson Twins a [TS]

01:13:01   that stuff over here I was not on its [TS]

01:13:05   team i was i was against it for whatever [TS]

01:13:10   reason it didn't like ABC like ABC well [TS]

01:13:16   I know but I just was against it [TS]

01:13:18   uh-huh and I a tense like Depeche Mode [TS]

01:13:24   like Susan the Banshees I had it over [TS]

01:13:27   there [TS]

01:13:27   I had a kind of over in the depeche mode [TS]

01:13:30   category where I couldn't quite couldn't [TS]

01:13:33   quite bring it over into the like I [TS]

01:13:35   really was into duran duran didn't like [TS]

01:13:38   spend out badly [TS]

01:13:40   yeah they let me ask you this [TS]

01:13:44   look at the weekly paper something you [TS]

01:13:45   ever seen a movie called Ferg a music [TS]

01:13:47   war organ music wore seat not to me that [TS]

01:13:50   movie was very very important to me [TS]

01:13:55   really oh god yes and I saw it my friend [TS]

01:13:57   taped it off probably night-fighter HBO [TS]

01:14:00   probably 1983 and it was funny because [TS]

01:14:05   on the one hand you can see what the [TS]

01:14:06   go-go's look like before they were the [TS]

01:14:07   go-go's but listen this lineup [TS]

01:14:10   omd magazine go-go's was going to jump [TS]

01:14:13   through some of these fleshtones joan [TS]

01:14:14   jett x.x TC devo the cramps ongoing go [TS]

01:14:19   dead kennedys gary numan giving you and [TS]

01:14:21   I think doing it to where my song Klaus [TS]

01:14:23   Nomi first exposure to class know me [TS]

01:14:25   wall of Voodoo père Ubu steel pulse [TS]

01:14:27   ub40 echo and the bunnymen in the police [TS]

01:14:30   so you see the police devo go-go's wall [TS]

01:14:34   of food bands that were like already [TS]

01:14:36   kind of known for something in America [TS]

01:14:38   was my first exposure to the cramps [TS]

01:14:40   yeah sucks interior sticks the [TS]

01:14:41   microphone news fucking pants like what [TS]

01:14:43   is this first time I ever saw dead [TS]

01:14:45   kennedys hmm you know what I mean like [TS]

01:14:47   seeing as this mash and like none of [TS]

01:14:49   these bands have that much to do with [TS]

01:14:50   each other [TS]

01:14:51   other than nobody else in my school [TS]

01:14:53   knows expands [TS]

01:14:54   uh-uh no I mean that sounds silly but [TS]

01:14:57   like and but remember was the steel [TS]

01:14:59   pulse comes out they do kk and they came [TS]

01:15:01   out in the robes it was like it was such [TS]

01:15:03   a stunning movie it's just a concert [TS]

01:15:05   movie of like shows in London in and LA [TS]

01:15:07   but like that such and remember Gary [TS]

01:15:09   Numan coming out in a little car now and [TS]

01:15:11   then the bag then the fucking weird that [TS]

01:15:15   was like what is going to Klaus Nomi [TS]

01:15:16   total eclipse like what is this what is [TS]

01:15:21   happening i would like to recommend to [TS]

01:15:23   people who are listening to this program [TS]

01:15:24   that that right when we go right when [TS]

01:15:27   Merlin hits the bell and then we start [TS]

01:15:29   talking about siouxsie the banshees you [TS]

01:15:31   push play on music war [TS]

01:15:33   yeah and then this will perfectly lineup [TS]

01:15:35   with it ok she doing now you ready ready [TS]

01:15:38   means war through the wall [TS]

01:15:42   total timely clips of [TS]