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Ep. 214: "Tinder for the Google Man"

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0:00:15hello hi John I'm I Merlin how's it

0:00:19going

0:00:19oh it's going so good oh good morning

0:00:24mmm good morning mhm

0:00:28oh boy I know what I want whoo-hoo yeah

0:00:34yeah yeahs catcher what the human

0:00:39condition i was on a plane all night

0:00:44now that's not good you know what that

0:00:45no I arrived in seattle at 515 am I am

0:00:54you are you on a plane five hours ago

0:00:57the others

0:00:58yeah dancer huh and then I woke up with

0:01:03a sore throat are you know if I was our

0:01:07broadcast partner pal

0:01:10dan Benjamin who i'd already be at the

0:01:13doctor's office he beat the doctor twice

0:01:15by now I would have canceled this

0:01:17episode of the show in your ropes

0:01:19training because I would have needed

0:01:21some medical attention on but I am NOT

0:01:25and Benjamin I'm me and I'm here in the

0:01:28chair

0:01:29oh man he's selling his like you're

0:01:30about to blow I'm back

0:01:33no I here's the thing i realized that

0:01:35your you've been flying in your your

0:01:36little bit sick we just see no you also

0:01:38sound like you could just blow up right

0:01:40now like you could really this could be

0:01:42it this could be if you ever need to

0:01:44emulate the feeling of this is the last

0:01:46straw that that's the voice listen I i

0:01:51do not want to miss my chance to blow a

0:01:54guarantee you know because more attempts

0:01:57on my father's like opportunity comes

0:01:59once in a lifetime

0:02:01well I'll try to join you in this tone

0:02:04alright alright why like why were you

0:02:07traveling and going to do this entire

0:02:10program with clenched teeth was it for

0:02:15business or pleasure it was there is no

0:02:17pleasure in flying well hold on i i i

0:02:24went up to the nice lady and I said

0:02:25listen

0:02:27my google arenas now use its you selling

0:02:31it Jeanne old black you know inside me

0:02:36uh-huh there are a lot of cells

0:02:39oh you're like what women but I you know

0:02:42I was booked on a flight that left two

0:02:45a.m. and got in at 6 55 or something

0:02:49like that and i went up to the counter

0:02:51is the thing about Alaska Airlines you

0:02:55can change your flight right there at

0:02:56the kiosk so it's change it to an

0:03:00earlier flight but then i was on a

0:03:01middle seat in the middle plane was

0:03:05gonna be awful was going to be worse

0:03:07than bad know how far from anywhere even

0:03:11if I could ask my flight from LA I use

0:03:13are you saying that that it was a

0:03:15one-hour flight that would be somehow

0:03:17more tolerable I guess it would I guess

0:03:20I 19-hour flight i need to have more

0:03:23facts in order to propose some kind of

0:03:25preposterous theory about you could

0:03:26probably suck it up for two hearts but

0:03:29it was a dignity dignity comes into it

0:03:33was a three-hour flight but I went up to

0:03:35the lady you know you gotta know the

0:03:36deal even and 45 minutes before the

0:03:40flight takes off they close the flight

0:03:42oh yeah thatthat's I don't understand

0:03:45that it was actually considering that

0:03:47they quote unquote open the flight

0:03:48usually about five minutes before that

0:03:50well no there's nobody there there's no

0:03:53might be signage about what's going to

0:03:54happen there at some point later in the

0:03:56day

0:03:56eventually one Harry person shows up a

0:03:59lot of white men run to the counter and

0:04:00then they close the flight

0:04:02that's right the flight is closed and

0:04:03i'm one of those white men and I say

0:04:05listen I know you're about to close the

0:04:07flight and I really can't be in this

0:04:08seat for a variety of reasons I'm very

0:04:11special person that I have right here i

0:04:14have my service horse will have trained

0:04:20to tap his hooves in order to

0:04:23communicate how desperately i need this

0:04:25chair lol people interact with Winston

0:04:27and she told ya my service turkey and

0:04:31she took me she just like very very

0:04:34cash on the download just put me right

0:04:36in an exit row around the island exit

0:04:40row that didn't have a person in the

0:04:41middle seat it was just it was full

0:04:43flight the the woman prior and told me

0:04:47there were no seats available

0:04:49they closed that flight and that's when

0:04:52those exits eats cum online Merle uh-huh

0:04:55anyway I was flying from Anchorage

0:04:58Alaska my hometown because i went back

0:05:02to attend my 30th highschool reunion and

0:05:08I don't know if you remember the film

0:05:09peggy sue got married

0:05:11no yeah probably i think that was one of

0:05:16the early Nicolas Cage hells yeah it was

0:05:18an eighties film where Kathleen Turner

0:05:21went back in time to her

0:05:2430 30 years to when she was in high

0:05:27school

0:05:28yeah that's running about and that came

0:05:30out when we are in high school and

0:05:32Kathleen Turner was envied ibly thought

0:05:37to be an actress who could play who

0:05:39could go back and play herself in high

0:05:40school she was the Michael J Fox of the

0:05:44story but now its new standards this

0:05:47let's be honest the standards have

0:05:48changed

0:05:49it's true it's like you know sometimes

0:05:51they measure the the economy how much

0:05:54Big Mac costs I think today you can

0:05:56judge the health of what it means to be

0:05:59an actress in hollywood by how old you

0:06:01have to be to play Peter Parker's aren't

0:06:03which was originally I think mrs.

0:06:06Cunningham and more recently was marisa

0:06:08tomei marisa tomei is such a good actor

0:06:15has good i really admire her

0:06:18I feel like yeah it sounds like it's

0:06:20right after topic so so whatever's

0:06:22travels in time with nicolas cage and we

0:06:24were high scarlett johansson plays the

0:06:28beyond unnoticed the sexually

0:06:32unappealing matron in a film because

0:06:35she's older she's gotta be pushing 30

0:06:37now it's 35 or whatever oh my gosh I

0:06:40told that will be the day that I check

0:06:42out

0:06:42no I don't remember feeling

0:06:44uncomfortable about finding her

0:06:45attractive in that in that steve buscemi

0:06:47movie

0:06:47with the other girl because she's a

0:06:49teenager solution teenager right she was

0:06:51playing a teenager and yeah I made you

0:06:52feel uncomfortable my thinking

0:06:55uncomfortable i love movies

0:06:57how do you feel about songs from the

0:06:59fifties sixties and seventies that

0:07:01reference uh like younger women

0:07:06this is that side this i will hear

0:07:10anecdote but that that's a big topic is

0:07:12actually keys and something that I think

0:07:14about a lot which is the coded language

0:07:16of men over time and I was sitting

0:07:20around the other day as irritating and

0:07:22it occurred to me that you know because

0:07:24there's always been code is always been

0:07:26coding when you say stuff like you know

0:07:28we exist of like you know oh there's

0:07:31gonna be girls there and for a long time

0:07:33when I was younger I would think the

0:07:341000 i can get a date or like or have a

0:07:37chance to try out my social skills that

0:07:39was gonna be girls there and then as I

0:07:40got a little older I started seeing oh

0:07:42yeah that's probably the girls i can

0:07:43kiss on women as I got a little earlier

0:07:46when they're being seen with the guys

0:07:47let's go to this party is gonna be girls

0:07:48i'm pretty sure that was code for we're

0:07:51gonna have intercourse

0:07:52oh wow and now I find myself as a

0:07:55moulder and urinating I think to myself

0:07:56I wonder how many times that means i can

0:07:58force a girl to to do something with me

0:08:00you know for certain kinds of codes in

0:08:02earlier times what I'm saying

0:08:05and as for like a chase around teenage

0:08:07girls like you know Chuck Berry ran into

0:08:09a little trouble with that I thought he

0:08:11ran into trouble to see was hiding in to

0:08:14us in toilets yeah yeah that's the thing

0:08:16that has I think that Chuck Berry can

0:08:18find out you know around the time you

0:08:21know the music died like all those guys

0:08:23died in a crash and then you know Chuck

0:08:25Berry violated the Mann Act and you're

0:08:26like and then you know that in that case

0:08:28you know was named kathleen quinlan was

0:08:30a girl Kathleen Turner you know the

0:08:32fighting going back in time is 0

0:08:34all he did was try to transport his

0:08:36cousin over the state line for Nikki but

0:08:38like who knows he might have had some

0:08:40prototypical Russian spy camera in the

0:08:43bus station bathroom because that's

0:08:44really his thing so i decided i think is

0:08:46a dookie man i decided to to yet to to

0:08:50figure out what the real story of the of

0:08:53the

0:08:55whoever the character was that actually

0:08:57was hiding inside a port-a-potty because

0:09:01they wanted they wanted to watch people

0:09:04go to the potty

0:09:05yeah and I ced at the the to put a low

0:09:09point on it I think he had some partial

0:09:12ownership in like an establishment like

0:09:15a restaurant right and so at some point

0:09:18he caused cameras to be installed where

0:09:20he could watch ladies go to the bathroom

0:09:21but there was someone who actually was

0:09:23in the toilet

0:09:25that's right you get thought-form for

0:09:26that promise so I i just tried to Google

0:09:29hiding in toilet and that's gonna go on

0:09:33my permanent record right google has put

0:09:35that jumped in cabinets to get put in

0:09:38google is Sergey Brin let their nests

0:09:41that you're getting you're gonna get ads

0:09:43based on was hiding and hiding hiding

0:09:44hiding in toilet and so whatever

0:09:47whenever I put something in the Google I

0:09:49imagine sergey brin sitting at a big

0:09:50desk which is in to speak with google

0:09:53glass on an entire heads-up display an

0:09:56array of things spin out of that he

0:09:59clicks eclipse there's like three

0:10:00pathways you choose for you at this

0:10:02point it's like it's like a job 04 your

0:10:03sexuality

0:10:04no but this is my this is my imagination

0:10:07right Sunday's he's he's got the

0:10:09heads-up displays that because this is a

0:10:11cinematic imagination are visible to us

0:10:13the viewer right out there in in virtual

0:10:17space in front of him

0:10:18the desk is completely clean of any of

0:10:20no comments no pen holder no pictures

0:10:24family little 10 clean broad desk he's

0:10:28sitting there in a black turtleneck with

0:10:30the with the in homage sure and that

0:10:34he's wearing Google glass and then a

0:10:36secretary walks in and puts a piece of

0:10:38paper on his desk already scan it with

0:10:43Snowden google glass existed should put

0:10:45it facedown his desk piece of paper and

0:10:47he picks it up and it says hiding in

0:10:50toilet

0:10:52because you can be a new wrinkle in the

0:10:55sexuality of General Eric he's

0:10:57monitoring me in a different way and he

0:11:00doesn't want he doesn't want the record

0:11:03on his google glass

0:11:05oh and he's how that anything any

0:11:08information he finds about me it's on

0:11:09paper and then he burns it has been

0:11:12doing this for a while John that in my

0:11:13imagination he has like it'sit's had the

0:11:15ability you you've been on his glass

0:11:18screen but here's the truth here's the

0:11:19wrinkle yeah i went to write hiding in

0:11:22toilet and I swear to you accidentally

0:11:27finger from ball i wrote hiding internal

0:11:32it with Archie Bunker fetish

0:11:35that's right which is a little bit of

0:11:38coded language it's actually much more

0:11:42appropriate whoever it was that did

0:11:44hiding the toilet probably pronounced in

0:11:46toilet yeah but now Sergei was not a

0:11:48native English speaker know gets that on

0:11:50a piece of paper possibly hiding

0:11:52internal it and he's that's hard to

0:11:56parse peak and the thing is you could

0:11:58google it probably but he wants no

0:12:01record so he's looking at hiding it

0:12:04turlet oh and he's making no sense out

0:12:07of this i guess you could you could just

0:12:11google turlet it suddenly someone

0:12:14somewhere down in mountain view here

0:12:15boob grace appear micrometer as we

0:12:21continue to believe that because he's

0:12:23checking everything grace our require

0:12:31moment so now there is an article here

0:12:33afternoon after googling hiding in

0:12:35turlet there's an article here on the

0:12:39Huffington Post which is which is never

0:12:40wrong

0:12:41the port-a-potty paper

0:12:46huh-uh from boulder colorado

0:12:50port-a-potty paper or paper prompts this

0:12:54is that they do some alliteration party

0:12:57part of paper prompts for body probe

0:13:02police in no problem huh

0:13:04but then i click on the article and what

0:13:09came up was an inspiring way New Orleans

0:13:11youth persevered 11 years post-katrina

0:13:13yeah I think surgery is gonna take some

0:13:17personal time another piece of paper is

0:13:19gently slid onto his desk where met

0:13:22download but the page here toilet terror

0:13:26as Python bites man's penis while he

0:13:28sits on the loop that's something to

0:13:30post know this is somewhere else this is

0:13:33well here they say Lou so you know it's

0:13:35got to be some kind of you know that

0:13:37comes from British ship potty talk you

0:13:40know that comes from Lou supposedly

0:13:42turns out it comes from the toilet in a

0:13:46public building in England was often

0:13:48room 100 really turns out i don't know

0:13:53that's true you can notice that person

0:13:55and i think john at this point you

0:13:56should probably just stop searching I

0:13:58think you've you've given plenty of

0:13:59tender to the google man i just clicked

0:14:03that's one of my favorite cat stevens

0:14:04stops different good interpersonal man

0:14:07well I i I'm being bothered by my click

0:14:13on toilet errors Python bites minds

0:14:15man's penis while he sits on the loop

0:14:16before bloody battle ensues that's the

0:14:19the rest of the headline huh

0:14:22so now that piece of paper is getting

0:14:24slit across that desk right this very

0:14:26moment and you know he's easy on other

0:14:28work to do

0:14:29he's up in the google glass moving

0:14:31billions of dollars around he's buying

0:14:34yachts he's doing stuff am imagining it

0:14:37because most of what I know about

0:14:39running a large corporation comes from

0:14:41watching TV shows in the in the

0:14:42seventies I imagine that periodically

0:14:44somebody comes into interrupting he's

0:14:46frustrated they thrust a giant pile of

0:14:48papers and say sign here and here in

0:14:50here in here so he's still he's still

0:14:52splitting his attention he occasionally

0:14:53has to do something

0:14:54he has to decide that something needs to

0:14:56be purchased hehe maybe order a couple

0:14:58Tesla's he signed some merger and

0:15:00acquisition documents but the whole time

0:15:01he's thinking about the turlet pythons

0:15:03the thing is that the number of

0:15:05situations in being in my life presently

0:15:09where people send me an email where they

0:15:11want me to use and some kind of app to

0:15:14sign the email and send it back a secure

0:15:17app and sign it now or signed with a Z

0:15:22signs and I've got some of these

0:15:27programs and I sit and try to navigate

0:15:29them in and sign my document virtually

0:15:31and send it back

0:15:32you're always you're often often kind

0:15:34enough to include me in the threat for

0:15:35this that because i wanted my phone I

0:15:39conduct my business on my telephone and

0:15:42I frankly don't understand why I would

0:15:45need to virtually sign as easy on this

0:15:47forum

0:15:48yeah it this application is not loading

0:15:50properly on my telephone

0:15:52yeah what I would i say is can you not

0:15:54accept an email authorization of this

0:15:57like contract for five dollars it's like

0:16:00it's like yeah exactly that's what kills

0:16:03me

0:16:03it's like you know I'm not bowing

0:16:05alright you want me to like come and do

0:16:07like a little puppet show for 42 minutes

0:16:09yeah and like we're talking about like

0:16:11what what you spend on light bulbs in an

0:16:13afternoon in this one building we're

0:16:15talking about like rounding error levels

0:16:17of money here that i won't see for six

0:16:19months and yet I have to fill out the

0:16:20Boeing for ya like like

0:16:23no I don't have a million dollars in

0:16:24insurance nobody has a million dollars

0:16:26insurance who are you

0:16:28I is now spent more time trying to sign

0:16:31this form than I did during the during

0:16:34the presentation you hired me to give

0:16:35like my my show was not this long time

0:16:39two hours into trying to sign your

0:16:41fucking contract is also it's a

0:16:43professional heal those organizations

0:16:45and God love the people who are in

0:16:47charge of putting those forms on my

0:16:48phone but they have a bunch of people

0:16:50who just sit around all day doing

0:16:52nothing but making those little gears

0:16:54turn just a tiny little bit yeah and

0:16:57like the thing is I'm over here and I

0:16:58got stuff to do it's not important stuff

0:17:00you know who I got no soup you got this

0:17:02guy over here not me

0:17:03and the whole time I'm not an important

0:17:05man John I'm like as i like to say John

0:17:07I'm not busy I'm time constraint i I'm

0:17:10not busy but I built my life for 49

0:17:13years getting to where I can be time

0:17:14constraint without being busy when you

0:17:16make me to sign something with a Z on my

0:17:18phone

0:17:19you're making me busy and you're

0:17:20attaching an eel to my phone that's

0:17:22right we see this all the time

0:17:24yes people who there they are getting

0:17:27work credit for sending emails

0:17:31oh they could get paid to not make that

0:17:32your turn buddy and i am sitting here

0:17:35not getting work credit for receiving

0:17:37their emails so it it costs them nothing

0:17:41to send me five emails a day to make

0:17:43sure that i'm gonna be there at load in

0:17:45time costs them nothing

0:17:47it's there it's their job they're being

0:17:49rewarded for it but every one of those

0:17:50emails I have to use my eyes to look at

0:17:53and although you don't have to sign if

0:17:56you ignore it still takes a minute to

0:17:57decide to the north gate for ignoring

0:18:00things

0:18:00well then I get 14 more emails just

0:18:02checking to make sure that you got my

0:18:04email that circle back

0:18:06actually I got that as a form i don't

0:18:08know if we talk about this but you know

0:18:10I i was getting phone calls to to make

0:18:13sure I'd seen the email that was making

0:18:16sure that I'd seen the text that was

0:18:19telling me what time to be a place where

0:18:22the thing

0:18:23what were the time to be a place had

0:18:25been carefully stated in five or six

0:18:28emails I'd already received a great

0:18:29great part is those people will get to

0:18:31retire with those people have a job

0:18:33where they get paid the same amount of

0:18:35money every month and they get to retire

0:18:36their kids get to go to college and

0:18:38you're sitting there answering emails

0:18:39about did you get my phone call about

0:18:40the email about the phone call about the

0:18:41gig and loaded

0:18:42yeah like San we send me this sign

0:18:44contract so i can send you the money I

0:18:46owe you

0:18:47oh my god for the thing you did already

0:18:50that I asked you you know that I said I

0:18:53would pay you to do but i can't pay

0:18:54I there's an outstanding one right now I

0:18:57am owed money by music company in

0:19:00England you know for for some work I did

0:19:03on an album was at the four tracks john

0:19:05this is right circle brixham

0:19:09and they and it's like it's like when

0:19:11you're become a Microsoft vendor i went

0:19:14online and somebody sent me an email and

0:19:16they were like just click here and sign

0:19:18up as a vendor for mca dot u K or

0:19:23whatever and that then we'll be able to

0:19:27pay and i went online and i filled out

0:19:30the whole fucking form and then I

0:19:32clicked on send and it and had asked an

0:19:38inscrutable question like it went to

0:19:41another page upon which there was a an

0:19:44inscrutable question and I tried to

0:19:47answer it and it did not accept my

0:19:50answer huh and would not accept the form

0:19:53and you know I hurt no one but myself

0:19:56when I say go fuck yourself you have now

0:20:01I've now gone to a third location with

0:20:04the hippie ya never do that and I do not

0:20:06want to be here anymore

0:20:08go fuck yourself that you're the weirdo

0:20:09you're the weirdo yeah that's it that is

0:20:11inscrutable to them that you would not

0:20:13want to take another couple days of your

0:20:15life to just go deal with the with the

0:20:17content management system again what

0:20:18does what it required is that I've been

0:20:20emailed the person back who sent me the

0:20:22email and and I have to just wipe all

0:20:25the work I've done so far because i

0:20:27can't get back to that screen have to

0:20:29email that person said what is the what

0:20:31is this question about what do I have to

0:20:33what the question was who was your

0:20:36reference I name the person that was

0:20:42your reference and i put in the name of

0:20:45the person that sent me because

0:20:46obviously we don't have access to the

0:20:47system that you spent all that time we

0:20:49have to go find it was a Johnny yeah

0:20:51yeah really well know John emailed me i

0:20:54get these emails all the time about

0:20:55who's my new contact

0:20:56I think I think Joey might be three

0:20:58people ago ya ever get those you've got

0:21:00you've gotten those height when

0:21:01introduced my replacement

0:21:02yeah cheers leone speak when you're near

0:21:06the airport in your you type do you have

0:21:08your flight number

0:21:09no here's my name what's your final

0:21:12destination today

0:21:13here's my final destination all right

0:21:15now you have my name and my final

0:21:17destination

0:21:18tell me that there are more than one

0:21:20John Roderick right now that are going

0:21:22to seattle tell can't do it service

0:21:24security and so then it's like oh well

0:21:27which flight are you on

0:21:29and here's a list of five flights pick

0:21:31the one that you're on

0:21:32alright I'm i don't remember which one

0:21:36month this one that one and so sorry

0:21:42you're here now back out at the front

0:21:44back out at the front of the back out of

0:21:46the gate push the button

0:21:48can I get in please i want it all to die

0:21:52Merlin I want everything I want it all

0:21:54to die and i wanted to go back to

0:21:56triplet remember triplicates yeah surely

0:22:01do you remember the goldenrod goldenrod

0:22:05i love this whole you know that the

0:22:06goldenrod was usually my copy to

0:22:08remember to gene did you smell

0:22:11mimeograph paper

0:22:12we've talked about this of course idea i

0:22:14seldom I smelled all the things it i

0:22:17passed onto my daughter she's a hot for

0:22:19now she smells so she'll enjoy a sharpie

0:22:21remember sitting at a gas station when

0:22:23there were no things that kept

0:22:25chlorofluorocarbons from just pouring

0:22:28into the atmosphere on the trip and just

0:22:30huffing that gasps Oh gasps yeah the

0:22:35leaded gas Maryland then we huffed i

0:22:39missed the gas i missed the Midway graph

0:22:43paper so it's 1985 Peggy Sue bodell sets

0:22:48off to her 25-year high school reunion

0:22:50with her daughter Beth oh she's just

0:22:53separated from her high school

0:22:54sweetheart now husband Charlie and his

0:22:56weary of attending the reunion because

0:22:58of everyone questioning her about his

0:22:59absence as they have been married since

0:23:02Peggy became pregnant right after

0:23:03graduation I had this very conversation

0:23:06just last just just last night with one

0:23:10of my highschool classmates

0:23:11yes this is directed by francis ford

0:23:13coppola we aware that I I was not aware

0:23:16of that

0:23:17just someone getting divorced just now

0:23:20after having been married since high

0:23:23school

0:23:24that's heavy the entire time that you

0:23:27and I've been doing this podcast and

0:23:30before that even these two people were

0:23:33married all the way back to when I was

0:23:35in high school and now they're getting

0:23:37into

0:23:38yeah I mean it's kind of become the

0:23:40default assumption you know it's like I

0:23:43I recently reconnected with the power

0:23:44from college she I know somebody

0:23:46following me and responding at home that

0:23:48person has the name of somebody was

0:23:50pretty good friends with in college and

0:23:51so I did that thing that's really

0:23:53awkward right said mom there get your

0:23:56final destination

0:23:57what if huh what's your fucking i said i

0:24:00miss any chance there any chance that

0:24:02this is the doesn't such person that I

0:24:04knew in college which you know it's a

0:24:07fairly unusual name but i thought i'm

0:24:09probably gonna sound like a loon because

0:24:10who knows and she was like of course

0:24:11it's me

0:24:13so when is my god you send him is this

0:24:16wasn't such did I sent that message and

0:24:19then now I when I was exploring what

0:24:21she's been up to and it's like she's

0:24:23still with the guy that I mostly those

0:24:27closer friends with a in college there's

0:24:31they're still together and I was like

0:24:33wow thats I'm not feels like the

0:24:35exception

0:24:36yeah you don't can assume you can't go

0:24:38like you know house Christine or

0:24:41whatever or you know all what about

0:24:44James how is he is like I don't know we

0:24:46haven't talked since 1992 and all right

0:24:49sorry

0:24:50yeah I said that to a guy to I was like

0:24:53yeah you still see in Tasha rasmussen

0:24:56whatever it was like not since 1994

0:24:58looks like oh what's been happening

0:25:01since then

0:25:02well I had three kids one of them's 22

0:25:04years old shit I haven't talked to you

0:25:07in a long time

0:25:08yeah I know it's been about 22 years I I

0:25:12feel my forms i still feel very close to

0:25:15you

0:25:15yeah well here's the school together

0:25:18this is the Atlas together as part of it

0:25:19i really wish you'd tell me more about

0:25:20your story but the others part of this

0:25:22is that I want to hear I realized by

0:25:24going to Google somebody and in so many

0:25:26of my friends that there are still out

0:25:28there are some of them are still writers

0:25:29a lot of them have become developers and

0:25:32stuff like that and I'll go I'll look

0:25:36somebody up and I'll go wow shit man

0:25:38that guy you please put pushing 50

0:25:41dog-eat-dog and i'll be like and then go

0:25:43like it sweet

0:25:44here because i know they were mostly my

0:25:45age in 1986 and the crazy part is

0:25:48they're still mostly my age today

0:25:50because in my head they will always be

0:25:5219 or 20

0:25:53I know this is an obvious thing but when

0:25:56you actually are confronted with like

0:25:57holy shit you're you're older now than

0:26:00you and your dad was when I met you

0:26:02which is in agreement that smooth and

0:26:07now your fingers still didn't get the

0:26:10email you about this to the email how

0:26:11they let you know John it's time for the

0:26:1432 33 Union yes today is such a high

0:26:17school is it you want to the high school

0:26:19that wasn't a good high school you went

0:26:20to the other always a good i'm perfectly

0:26:22fine but you're not the high school got

0:26:24ozzy osbourne know where we weren't we

0:26:26was always pretty I feel like you've

0:26:28always portrayed it as like you were the

0:26:29also-ran you mean where's my hit the

0:26:32white ribbon I we were highschool number

0:26:34two who high school number one uh for

0:26:39many many years was the only high school

0:26:41and they also have the auditorium that

0:26:44seed seated 2,000 people so everyone in

0:26:48Anchorage when there was something to do

0:26:49when there was an event in in 1960

0:26:52everybody in the city went and SAT in

0:26:56the west high auditorium and on the side

0:26:58of the westheimer aquarium as a giant

0:27:01Bald Eagle shrieking through the sky

0:27:05with its talons outstretched to catch a

0:27:10giant anchor a giant be fouled anchor

0:27:14like in relationship to this screaming

0:27:18eagle it is a truly bad ass logo and

0:27:23then it was determined that the city was

0:27:25growing and it needed a second high

0:27:27school also West has colors were black

0:27:30and orange very tough see those you do a

0:27:35leather jacket your collar we recall

0:27:37what year's work

0:27:38sure I do holy warriors well let me get

0:27:42there okay because when they started

0:27:44when they built east high school

0:27:46they did not give it a 2000 seat

0:27:49auditorium and the mascot was the

0:27:53Thunderbird a mythical animal and the

0:27:59Thunderbird was represented in sort of

0:28:01Native American like general vague

0:28:08Native American iconography but a

0:28:13Thunderbird is not it's not part of the

0:28:19the Eskimo that's more or less that

0:28:24feels more like a Southwest I'm look at

0:28:28the lower 48 like a Southwest Native

0:28:30American kind of thing

0:28:32look at the UCC a Thunderbird thing I

0:28:34feel like maybe in like in like I in

0:28:35Arizona or New Mexico and even like

0:28:39Pacific Northwest you know I can also

0:28:43see a vancouver top type Thunderbird day

0:28:45there's all kinds of what the card

0:28:46indigenous know every original peoples

0:28:48whatever thats that's a huge thing we're

0:28:50in vancouver it was like it was in

0:28:51ironically a big part of the culture

0:28:53there was like this yeah experience of

0:28:56that culture looks good let's call it a

0:28:58look let's call it an indigenous myth

0:29:01mythology my wife and I went to a fancy

0:29:03dinner at a place that was all like it

0:29:06was like kind of fancy but like the

0:29:09Atlantic ish upscale like a I don't want

0:29:13to say something racist but I don't say

0:29:14Indian whatever the work term they use

0:29:16there is but what's the whatever the the

0:29:18tribes of the British Columbia they're

0:29:20still very aware that totem poles in the

0:29:21park and this whole thing you know where

0:29:23the the Haida and the blanket right the

0:29:27clicker from a little bit further north

0:29:30I'm catco's the Haida are from right

0:29:32around there but there are a lot of

0:29:33subject sub-tribes right right right

0:29:36uh the you know the LED the lips the the

0:29:42tribes from right around here

0:29:43I mean I i could name 40 of them but

0:29:46they're all related to the Haida what

0:29:48happened the supra tribe but the Thunder

0:29:53what one thing the Thunderbird is not is

0:29:55either an Eskimo

0:29:58like icon nor is it really like a

0:30:03central Alaskan I don't I don't I don't

0:30:07think of it as a as an Athabascan image

0:30:12and Anchorage is not really part of the

0:30:15turf of the of the blanket who you know

0:30:21their turf ends down there in the

0:30:22wrangles somewhere i don't know i'm

0:30:24using a lot of words in the sentence

0:30:26word salad but I'm riding the wave and

0:30:28so it sounds a little bit like saying

0:30:30it's like it might as well as meaningful

0:30:32as saying like hey we're the Pirates

0:30:33well we never really had Pirates here or

0:30:35what oh they're they're adopting some

0:30:37kind of a culture

0:30:39yeah but even yeah right it's not

0:30:40there's no there are no hurricanes on

0:30:42the west coast so you shouldn't because

0:30:44you shouldn't say like East I hurricanes

0:30:46they you know it should be cyclones or

0:30:49whatever but yeah this is that this is

0:30:51some there aren't totem poles in

0:30:55Anchorage let's just put it that way

0:30:57there are no totem poles but the East

0:30:58High logo looks like it came from a

0:31:01totem pole so right away you're feeling

0:31:04like um and then to make matters worse

0:31:08our colors were red white and powder

0:31:13blue and so our letter jackets were the

0:31:17the body of them were powder blue sounds

0:31:19kinda like maybe like Eastern European

0:31:22it well and out and my lady friend went

0:31:26to my reunion with me and she said I

0:31:28find those very attractive colors and I

0:31:31said but but but yes okay but are they

0:31:34butch sports color

0:31:36she'sshe's millennium she's a millennium

0:31:38so she's like I don't even know what

0:31:40about butch sports colors but i think

0:31:42it's a very attractive jacket in a in it

0:31:45in any case so here we are

0:31:48against the fighting Eagles west high

0:31:50and we're like the the powder blue

0:31:53Thunderbirds it was tough and and what

0:31:57what drives me crazy is were there no

0:31:59other fierce animals in Alaska that

0:32:01could have been the mascot of the second

0:32:04high school

0:32:04yeah how about a bear what about a wolf

0:32:07these are there there are these he could

0:32:11have even gone with

0:32:12you know something that seems to be a

0:32:13touchdown for you which is the hearty

0:32:14stock of the various people that have

0:32:17come there over time so we can really

0:32:19get to san francisco 49ers or something

0:32:21like that you could go with something

0:32:22that's about the people but instead they

0:32:24transplanted a Thunderbird sure the

0:32:26Anchorage anchors I don't know the West

0:32:29i already have the anchor let's say they

0:32:31have the eagle and the anchor it's so

0:32:33infuriating and if they had a secret

0:32:35society i bet it was called the Eagle in

0:32:37the anchor here we are

0:32:39the Thunderbird and the and the cultural

0:32:42co-optation and we could have been so

0:32:45the third high school or whatever

0:32:47Bartlett I think that Carlos in portland

0:32:51maybe diamond was the third could have

0:32:52been yeah i think one of those you know

0:32:54they're the Bears the diamonds are the

0:32:57something else's so here's East I the

0:33:00truth we fought we fought a just going

0:33:04there was a fight or a scrappy we were

0:33:08scrappy upstart so huh

0:33:10and so i'm back at the Reunion East I

0:33:15Thunderbirds goatee birds who and my

0:33:19classmates at least the ones that came

0:33:21to the reunion are in fine shape they're

0:33:25in find federal there were a lot of

0:33:28people there that I said did look the

0:33:31same like look the same or better than

0:33:34they did in high school and I was

0:33:36thinking when I went to the 20-year you

0:33:38know everybody had kind of thickened up

0:33:40and it seem to bode that by the time you

0:33:44get to the 30-year you know we were just

0:33:45going to be flesh mounds but people were

0:33:51in good shape

0:33:53they'll you know they looked sharp they

0:33:55had they had sparkle in their eyes a lot

0:33:58of them their you know their third kid

0:34:00was graduating from high school and

0:34:01they're ready to start a new adventure

0:34:02in life Kenny

0:34:05and I was standing there like in my

0:34:09banana republic blazer that i bought a

0:34:11Salvation Army for a dollar and thinking

0:34:15to myself

0:34:17christ almighty what it could look a

0:34:20bunch of people from how did this

0:34:22how'd they are older than my friend's

0:34:25parents were when i was in high school

0:34:26but my friend's parents looked like me

0:34:29piles with hair you know they were they

0:34:33needed to trim the hair on their ears

0:34:35and hear my of my highschool classmates

0:34:38look like they're the freaking Kennedy's

0:34:40so times have changed in the and the

0:34:45expectations are up by 5i I went

0:34:52immediately to a drugstore but just for

0:34:54men mustache die

0:34:56nice to see me now look like Tom Selleck

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0:36:52on my way

0:36:53uh-huh i'm on my way to you a legend

0:36:55when I am you know there's a lot of

0:36:59there are a lot of people didn't go to

0:37:00the 30th and I got it I got a lot of

0:37:03feedback from people online that

0:37:06indicated a kind of a kind of sort of

0:37:10smug consensus that like why would you

0:37:13go to your reunion

0:37:14herp derp and I feel like I feel like

0:37:20some of that attitude comes from people

0:37:23still not realizing that life is short

0:37:26and there aren't and it doesn't last

0:37:28forever your your reunions are like

0:37:32they're just a a pair of demarcation of

0:37:37life time progressing and that when i

0:37:42walked in the door of the reunion out

0:37:44you know I had a natural apprehension

0:37:47what's this going to be like the I

0:37:49haven't seen these people in years

0:37:51do I even have anything in common with

0:37:53them they're like moms and dads from

0:37:54Anchorage Alaska but then you get there

0:37:57and you know all these people you know

0:37:59them now for four decades even if you

0:38:02haven't seen him you know one like I

0:38:05can't remember what I meet somebody at a

0:38:07party in there like hi my name's Andy

0:38:09their name goes right in one ear and out

0:38:12the other I have no recollection of who

0:38:14they are one minute later and I turn to

0:38:16lean over to their friend of mine and I

0:38:18go what's this guy's name again and the

0:38:21handy and I said that's my secret shame

0:38:24i'm like right handy and then i turn my

0:38:27head back and look at Andy and I've

0:38:29already forgotten his name but I walk

0:38:32into this ski chalet where my 30th

0:38:35reunion is and every single person that

0:38:38walks up to me I'm like holy shit John

0:38:40Lindsay how are you i like oh my god

0:38:42it's chilly coochie like I know them

0:38:44like a like I nobody chillin sorry

0:38:48chilly was we could chill coochie that's

0:38:51terrific mean it's like somebody from

0:38:53Greece he's amazingly could use amazing

0:38:55lives in Denver you

0:38:56look about Kelly's a real person tell

0:38:58you know I normal and we had a very like

0:39:04an excellent high school class and i

0:39:06will end at the time I didn't think so

0:39:07but like really interesting excellent

0:39:11people who are still still thriving

0:39:13so I think that I think that those

0:39:15things like those little dumb flags your

0:39:22highschool reunions the dumb flags

0:39:25aren't you don't you too sophisticated

0:39:26for that now you've moved San Francisco

0:39:29oh no this is this is the irony is that

0:39:32i like i like to think that's the case

0:39:33but it's really just cuz I'm scared

0:39:34well and I think that's true for a lot

0:39:36of people who you know the people that

0:39:38are like I've I don't go back to my

0:39:40hometown I got out of there now I'm

0:39:42living now I've got 700 channels of

0:39:45television in my town

0:39:49I'm not going back to that but yeah you

0:39:51go back to that and you it turns out

0:39:53that you thought you were a nerd but

0:39:55none of your classmates did they all

0:39:56thought you were great

0:39:58or you remember everybody hating your

0:40:00guts but in fact they all really liked

0:40:02you and they're all nice now they're all

0:40:05nice people and they're not little high

0:40:07school jerks and every basis do this is

0:40:09what everybody says this is what

0:40:10everybody says it makes me feel terrible

0:40:11that I don't go to these things I think

0:40:14everybody should go right now because

0:40:16people are great i mean there's only one

0:40:19guy my eyes go reunion that is still

0:40:22working out the whole problem of cool

0:40:27there's one guy who every time I see him

0:40:30online he's very nice to me every time I

0:40:34see him in person he lurks over on the

0:40:37other side of the room because he's not

0:40:39gonna come say hi to me first

0:40:41there's a one guy you know a whole room

0:40:44of people I went to high school but

0:40:45still worried about that kind of that

0:40:49level of thing and he's a super

0:40:52interesting guy but he's just got this

0:40:54he's just still got you can see it in it

0:40:56but it's not like you're walking over to

0:40:57him first you're gonna wait here

0:40:59oh no I mean I I'm talking to people who

0:41:02are coming up to me to talk to me but

0:41:04I'm looking across the room and I see

0:41:05him over there and he's just looking at

0:41:06his fingernails

0:41:08when i get done talking to the people

0:41:10who are brave enough to come over and

0:41:12say hello then I do go over and say hey

0:41:15man because i want to relieve him of

0:41:19this stress but it's very funny to think

0:41:23that you wouldn't go to one of these

0:41:24things you're like oh jesus you know

0:41:25everybody's gonna be high school on me

0:41:27but nobody is except for one there's

0:41:29always one guy but this reunion is put

0:41:32together you in answer to your original

0:41:34question that was put together on

0:41:35facebook

0:41:36yeah there were no emails it all

0:41:40happened on Facebook including all of

0:41:42the threads where people were saying I

0:41:45maybe i can come maybe I can't how much

0:41:47is it

0:41:47when is it oh my daughter has a dance

0:41:50recital that day and it's like in yeah

0:41:54this is your 30th reunion like

0:41:56reschedule the dance recital

0:41:59there's a lot of that kind of facebook

0:42:01chatter and I just was always glimpsing

0:42:05and then I made my reservations to go to

0:42:11the reunion and then I arrived and then

0:42:14I was sort of getting on the plane and

0:42:17we got a text from one of my friends was

0:42:19like all right we'll see you in a couple

0:42:20of hours i was like what are you talking

0:42:22about the reunion tonight the reasons

0:42:26tonight friday night I naturally assumed

0:42:29it was saturday night because i never

0:42:31read the invite i didn't read the

0:42:35facebook description of and so I made

0:42:39him hated plane reservation that landed

0:42:42in Anchorage one hour after the event

0:42:45starts and so I i rented a car I i ran

0:42:51through the airport like a disgraced

0:42:53football star yep jumpin over suitcases

0:42:56jumping over suitcases nothing but

0:42:57smiles some little old lady says go

0:43:00j-rod who make it into that and make it

0:43:05into my rental four-by-four and I Korean

0:43:10across the city a city I know intimately

0:43:13all the way over to the mountains where

0:43:17the brain is being held in a ski chalet

0:43:19and you know what I wasn't even

0:43:21aight they were just getting started Wow

0:43:23and I have the whole reunion with all my

0:43:28my pals and then got in the four-by-four

0:43:33and raced back to the airport because my

0:43:36lady friend was flying in on a later

0:43:38flight

0:43:38I did all this and one night felt like a

0:43:42felt like I I didn't need to have flown

0:43:46in a day early because what I could have

0:43:48driven back to the airport and flown

0:43:50home I could have done that whole thing

0:43:52flown in landed gone to the reunion had

0:43:54a great time gone back to the airport

0:43:56gone home

0:43:57nobody would have I mean I could have

0:43:59left a pot on the stove

0:44:01no I'm saying Marilyn I could do your

0:44:04you're the it seems like you getting

0:44:06closer and closer with the you know

0:44:07sometimes you just need to put that

0:44:09fight around like you get you're gettin

0:44:11recent history indicates that you're a

0:44:13man is happy that you can if you have to

0:44:14hop back on a plane and just go straight

0:44:16back you just your jet-setting how many

0:44:18years of our lives have we thought oh

0:44:21boy i got a better get those plane

0:44:24tickets it's only six months till I have

0:44:26to fly

0:44:26oh yeah you know like find out about

0:44:29your travel insurance

0:44:30yeah going on trips is a big deal

0:44:32changing flights as an enormous steel

0:44:35you might as well just stay home you

0:44:38could get stranded if something goes

0:44:40wrong with your flight you may never go

0:44:41home again

0:44:42yeah and now I'm realizing that

0:44:43everything you do with visa via an

0:44:46airline cost a hundred bucks let's get

0:44:49to now you know what I mean like you've

0:44:50got a you've got a wallet with hundreds

0:44:52in it and every time you talk to

0:44:54somebody should just throw a

0:44:55hundred-dollar bill at him but it's only

0:44:58a hundred dollars once you understand

0:45:00that it's less shocking

0:45:02yeah it's easy just this is just how

0:45:04this works hey can I do this

0:45:06they're like yeah that'll be 101 dollars

0:45:08and ninety-five cents and you're like

0:45:09yeah I knew it was going to be a hundred

0:45:11dollars and so here's I have some

0:45:15hundreds already earmarked for this

0:45:16purpose and then you get at the thing is

0:45:20that hundred dollars allows you to be on

0:45:22an airplane in one hour rather than

0:45:26get a hotel room and wait until tomorrow

0:45:28get a 250 our hotel room and wait until

0:45:31you're originally scheduled flight or

0:45:34whatever you know like that hundred

0:45:36dollars is just the thing that is

0:45:38required and you can leave whenever you

0:45:41can leave you can I mean I was in LA in

0:45:43LA couple weeks ago and I said I'm

0:45:45leaving La right now what this did not

0:45:48work out this trip didn't work out i'm

0:45:49leaving and I was like 100 dollars and I

0:45:53was on an airplane in an hour so it has

0:45:58really stripped away the feeling that

0:46:00getting on an airplane is a big deal or

0:46:01that all that stuff all that like we got

0:46:06a plan we gotta prepare what are we

0:46:08gonna do when we get there

0:46:09like what are you gonna do you're gonna

0:46:10peel off another hundred dollars and

0:46:12throw it at somebody and then it's just

0:46:16like you play it's just like you planned

0:46:17it becomes becomes a kind of thought

0:46:18technology where you at so you're really

0:46:20realigning your whole idea of how this

0:46:22is gonna work

0:46:23Yeah Yeah right because it because if

0:46:25the trip originally if you had budgeted

0:46:27$1,000 for a trip let's say uh I mean

0:46:32that's ten one hundred dollars is uh huh

0:46:36and if the flight if you buy the flight

0:46:38today for a flight tomorrow and it costs

0:46:41whatever even $500 you still have 500 to

0:46:45throw and you still you're still within

0:46:49your budget so it was I mean I flew up

0:46:54to Anchorage on friday and i left Sunday

0:46:56night and that is a that's ludicrous to

0:47:02fly to Alaska for the weekend except

0:47:05it's not cause $300 to you know i bought

0:47:07my tickets with miles and will rule look

0:47:10at you mr medallion i know c and then

0:47:13high and then i read in the car I was

0:47:16200 bucks who I throw a hundred dollars

0:47:18and somebody for something i don't

0:47:19remember what don't need to know

0:47:21justjust know they're gonna go I don't

0:47:22even care it's like how many how many

0:47:24dinners have I bought for Jason Finn it

0:47:28costs a hundred dollars least sales be

0:47:30going to a place Jason orders some

0:47:33Negroni you get some appetizers

0:47:36maybe a little blanched spinach it for

0:47:39the table then the thing comes as ninety

0:47:41seven dollars really fuck knows a lot

0:47:43more money than I thought it was gonna

0:47:44be

0:47:45how many Negro needs to g-get but he's

0:47:47already under the table like I guess

0:47:51this one's on me and that's that's

0:47:54that's the amount it is it's basically

0:47:56the same amount that it cost to get

0:47:58Jason fit under the table with a plate

0:47:59of blanched spinach is the cost of being

0:48:01able to fly at the drop of a hat you

0:48:04don't get rich in life by spending money

0:48:05isn't it the other way around

0:48:10huh you do get rich in life baseman oh

0:48:12this is the thing when everything goes

0:48:14well isn't it funny how rich people are

0:48:16the cheapest people in your like well

0:48:18that's spoken like a poor person

0:48:20oh no I'm saying sort of oh yeah Jason

0:48:24he's got more money than Sinatra and

0:48:25euro fine isn't growing and he's under

0:48:27the table if I see snake

0:48:28I see what you're saying uh yeah he

0:48:31Pat's he pats at his and his fleece that

0:48:33he's always wearing like that that

0:48:36mixture that have a while but even

0:48:39better Jason friend ID hi Jason and he

0:48:41still listens

0:48:42I'm sure he does he listens on his runs

0:48:44so a lot of the podcast him just sounds

0:48:46like trucks honking whoo oh I remember

0:48:50what the hundred dollars I throughout

0:48:51somebody was I got back to the car

0:48:53rental place and they were like oh

0:48:54you're two hours late dropping the car

0:48:56off its an extra day and it costs a

0:48:58hundred dollars and I was like seriously

0:49:00a hundred dollars for for being two

0:49:02hours late

0:49:03uh-huh and they're like this right here

0:49:05the contracts and it's like I don't read

0:49:07your stinking contracts and I stood

0:49:10there and I was like okay I can get all

0:49:11heated up about this are you mad

0:49:14he's dealing to just peel pull off a

0:49:15couple the cenotes and walk away

0:49:17yeah I was like I i used to demand

0:49:19satisfaction in a situation like this

0:49:21sure did but now the satisfaction comes

0:49:24from from flipping another hundred

0:49:26through the window of her and being like

0:49:29this problem is gone it cost one hundred

0:49:31dollars and i'm not talking about a

0:49:33hundred value they're going to be people

0:49:35listening to this podcast they're like

0:49:36well it's nice if you can afford 305

0:49:39John Roderick that's right but the

0:49:40problem is that everybody's budgeting to

0:49:45do things and they're the end and these

0:49:47hundred-dollar bills they're spending

0:49:49them to their

0:49:50just in different categories they don't

0:49:52see it as peel-off honored throw it

0:49:54throw it out of thing the problem is

0:49:55solved

0:49:56they're like well then there's a hundred

0:49:58dollars budget for this and for that and

0:50:00for this and for that it's like if you

0:50:02buy this ticket six months ahead of time

0:50:04they're not any cheaper it doesn't give

0:50:06you any relief from anxiety to have all

0:50:09that stuff in a folder sitting on the

0:50:13sitting on your desk this is my trip six

0:50:15months from now and I've got it all

0:50:16squared away at least for me it doesn't

0:50:19it's cheaper to just to just spend a

0:50:23hundred dollars in in terms of like

0:50:25right let me through this

0:50:26let me make it through this little

0:50:28portal let me through your spider web

0:50:30huh tsa PreCheck

0:50:33yeah just get er done get er done get er

0:50:38done

0:50:38ya like that how we went to Disneyland

0:50:43as i mentioned off-air we went to

0:50:46Disneyland a few weeks ago for the first

0:50:47time and I I felt something similar

0:50:49where I had I had basically said that in

0:50:52order to have this trip and for me to

0:50:54not be stressful this is actually

0:50:55something I've learned from our friend

0:50:56John siracusa which is like be a

0:50:58rational person all the time and here's

0:50:59your rationality when it's time to go on

0:51:02vacation

0:51:02be prepared and plan for everything to

0:51:05cost way more than you expected like

0:51:08build that into the budget don't take

0:51:10the trip until you know you can spend

0:51:12way more than you think you should

0:51:13because even if you don't just buy a

0:51:15bunch of shit

0:51:16still you're still gonna have the

0:51:17hundred-dollar problem everywhere you go

0:51:19as in your parlance and we had a

0:51:21wonderful trip partly because i just got

0:51:23you sleep well that meal costs a hundred

0:51:24dollars shit like she just had macaroni

0:51:26again and somehow we spend a hundred

0:51:28dollars i'm not sure how that happened

0:51:29yet because it was 18 $18 macaroni

0:51:31because it had two bacon bits on

0:51:33oh yeah well I'm and i think i think

0:51:36part of it for me is that I'm just

0:51:39budgeting my money toward living this

0:51:41life rather than budgeting money toward

0:51:45living a different life

0:51:46well you need to get one of those jobs

0:51:47we circle back with people about how the

0:51:49forms are going I can't stop I can't say

0:51:51but I can't stop thinking about that

0:51:53look at your job you make money in your

0:51:56job god bless you god bless you you make

0:51:59money in your job when I'm not doing

0:52:01mine

0:52:02yeah yeah it's just it's vexing me I

0:52:05don't take you off your peggy sue or

0:52:07your body cam but my goodness that

0:52:09frustrates me when you see them all the

0:52:11time you see him walking around with

0:52:12their jobs now making money doing

0:52:15nothing and its really changed a lot of

0:52:18what I do because you know this could be

0:52:21a personality fall where I just don't

0:52:23have I don't have the patience to in the

0:52:27worst-case have a series of phone calls

0:52:30with different people for six months

0:52:32about whether something will happen

0:52:34oh and then you go through what I

0:52:36learned was eventually called the

0:52:37engagement process which is where we

0:52:39figure out if the thing we definitely

0:52:41took six months decided we definitely

0:52:42want to do with you whether that money

0:52:44exists and who could potentially pay for

0:52:46it

0:52:46yeah we spent that entire amount of

0:52:48money months ago on the amount of time

0:52:50you guys were in meetings about whether

0:52:51you wanted to do this

0:52:52that's when you're when you're a loser

0:52:53like us he's never gonna retire that's

0:52:55the way you think but they're on a

0:52:57different level you know when when i

0:52:59when i did this this little television

0:53:01talk show thing that I ever tell you

0:53:03about the the i was i arrived for

0:53:07wardrobe

0:53:09oh yeah you took much in Turner yeah

0:53:12they were fitting me having a wardrobe

0:53:14and somebody came out and they were i

0:53:16was interacting with about five people

0:53:18at this point the producer the writer

0:53:20the producer's assistant

0:53:23uh-huh the representative from the

0:53:25agency the representative from the other

0:53:27agency and some nothing much for ya

0:53:31someone came out and said well they're

0:53:33all having a meeting right here right

0:53:35next to where we are and they really

0:53:38liked to me there and I think that in a

0:53:42minute

0:53:42they're going to be ready for you uh-huh

0:53:44and I had other stuff to do the wardrobe

0:53:47person was putting shoes on me and I was

0:53:50like all right and when they're ready to

0:53:53talk to me i guess i'm here already and

0:53:55i'm not being paid for this day right

0:53:57there was they think this is pro bono

0:53:59out of your like hell parts in the city

0:54:01work

0:54:02yeah and but they contracted me for two

0:54:04days worth of work

0:54:05and then they said but there's going to

0:54:06be a fitting day i'm alright alright

0:54:10hitting day they're not paying me for

0:54:11the fitting that's just you know that's

0:54:15presumed so there's some money in it but

0:54:17it's very circumscribed like was making

0:54:20money for for day 2 and a 3 but there's

0:54:22no okay

0:54:23icic day one this is the fitting day and

0:54:25i'm not getting paid for this and that

0:54:27was fine i was like sure I'll go fitting

0:54:28day but then they're like okay we're

0:54:31there

0:54:32they're about ready to meet you and the

0:54:34person that said that walked away went

0:54:35through a door somebody else came out

0:54:38hi nice to meet you I'm the person

0:54:40that's doing this they're gonna be there

0:54:43they are about ready to meet you and

0:54:46then that person walked away I went

0:54:47through a different door I got shoes put

0:54:50on me and that I put on me and I was

0:54:51like I'm having a fine time somebody

0:54:53came and asked me if i wanted to rap and

0:54:56i said i have a wrap

0:54:58oh well you know rap checkout sure it's

0:55:00like it's like a breeder sandwich

0:55:01sure give me a chicken wrap this

0:55:02wonderful thank you and then they

0:55:04realized that there was just a tray of

0:55:05wraps in the kitchen that hadn't been

0:55:07eaten by by the day I was like I'll take

0:55:10one of your old raps so maybe even

0:55:13sitting there with new shoes on even an

0:55:15old rap and finally somebody comes out

0:55:17and says um it's gonna be a minute

0:55:20they're not sure if they you know

0:55:22they're not sure if they're ready to see

0:55:24you yet

0:55:25so what I'm sorry I'm already losing the

0:55:27thread here who are they and why do they

0:55:29need to talk to you

0:55:30I had no idea either but it's but the

0:55:32implication is or what you inferred is

0:55:34that these are some kind of big

0:55:36stakeholders in whoever's behind the

0:55:38scenes behind the scenes and it's gonna

0:55:40be like kind of a meet-and-greet and

0:55:41maybe a little bit of like here's the

0:55:43here's the reason for the season

0:55:44yeah exactly alright my assumption you

0:55:48know all these situations is look I'm

0:55:50the talent I'm the one they want to meet

0:55:52I don't care who they are they could be

0:55:55President the goddamn world it can be

0:55:57sergey brin sitting on a magic carpet

0:55:58sitting indian-style on a floating magic

0:56:00carpet

0:56:01he's gonna want to meet me because I'm

0:56:03the talent sure

0:56:04criss-cross applesauce preeminent so I'm

0:56:06out there and I'm like hey I'm not

0:56:08getting paid for today already

0:56:09whoever's timeline we're working on is

0:56:11fine with me part of my brand is that I

0:56:14don't give a fuck i got a used wrap here

0:56:18apparently shoes and i'm already

0:56:19negotiating with the costume lady that

0:56:21I'm going to get to keep these shoes at

0:56:23the end of the shoot you can get your

0:56:25decision

0:56:25well so I leaned in and I go what I

0:56:27gotta do to keep these shoes huh

0:56:29she's like well i got this budget i got

0:56:31this in that i did about 10

0:56:33I don't know about that's gonna be tough

0:56:34and I'm like him but I'm gonna keep

0:56:39these shoes right she's like well I can

0:56:41talk to the guy can't do this happened

0:56:43and then there are you doing a little

0:56:46bit of a Jedi mind trick on her

0:56:47well see the thing is I know that's not

0:56:49her decision I don't want to put her in

0:56:50a in an awkward position

0:56:53I'm just sowing the seeds so the first

0:56:55person I've talked to already thinks

0:56:57that I'm going to keep the shoes

0:56:59eventually what happens is the person I

0:57:03figure out who the person in charge of

0:57:05that process is later on in the

0:57:09production a day and a half later and

0:57:12I'm like I love these shoes how about me

0:57:13keep these shoes and that person by that

0:57:16point in time is so focused on keeping

0:57:18me happy mood because they've been

0:57:20bringing me waters the whole time even

0:57:21though

0:57:22hello there pay grade they're doing it

0:57:24because I'm the talent developed a

0:57:25relationship they got some skin in the

0:57:27game and then that person makes the

0:57:29decision like this what you want the

0:57:30shoes all ya done and the and the

0:57:35Wardrobe lady standing there and the

0:57:37production people are all standing

0:57:39around and they heard the person say it

0:57:40and then I just walk out issues I don't

0:57:42there's no storm to sign at that point

0:57:44who was the person already the the

0:57:47person who's bringing me the water so

0:57:48said so anyway so I'm sitting in this

0:57:50room and finally someone comes out and

0:57:52says they're ready to see you like I'm

0:57:57ready to see them and it was ostensibly

0:58:00that i was going to come in and show

0:58:02them the costume and they were going to

0:58:04decide that the suit was right huh

0:58:07right so all right I'm realizing like oh

0:58:10this is a this is a situation where they

0:58:13want to meet me and they want to be

0:58:14entertained by me but but they justified

0:58:17it as that i'm walking in there like a

0:58:19like a monkey talent from mannequin to

0:58:23show them my clothes

0:58:26well that seems like a status move a

0:58:28little bit deputy 50 people and so I

0:58:31walk in and you will not believe it a

0:58:34u-shaped table there's 20 people so for

0:58:38goodness sake when the people i walk in

0:58:42i am I like am taken aback

0:58:45holy shit this is a big meeting room and

0:58:48there's 20 people in here there's

0:58:50there's the row of stakeholders in the

0:58:53chairs around the you and then there's a

0:58:55then there's the back row of chairs of

0:58:58their assistance or somebody I don't

0:58:59know people with people that are

0:59:00actually holding pieces of paper that's

0:59:02what all those people do well there's

0:59:04the agency personnel sure you get there

0:59:06is a person from the other agency yes

0:59:09there's the person from move the client

0:59:12there's client-side person there's the

0:59:14other there's a person from the other

0:59:16client there's the people that were

0:59:20contracted there's the boss there's the

0:59:25boss lady who's above the boss sure

0:59:28right there anything else in charge and

0:59:31the thing is everybody in this room is

0:59:33in charge right all the people that

0:59:34aren't charger outside the room running

0:59:37around telling me when things are going

0:59:38to happen and so you know of course I

0:59:41walk in and I go hey hey it's dave

0:59:45Roderick area you want to see my costume

0:59:48let me turn around us do these pants

0:59:50look good on my house and everybody is

0:59:52immediately disarmed and charm because

0:59:54the talent is fun and then i say i'm

0:59:58keeping the shoes

0:59:58keeping the shoes

1:00:00and every single one of the 20 people

1:00:04they go around the table and everybody's

1:00:06got something to say

1:00:07mm there's a person from California that

1:00:09has very very casual hair you know

1:00:12somebody that used to work at geffen

1:00:14who's not wearing socks and then there's

1:00:18the person that this very you know like

1:00:21high and tight haircut who came from New

1:00:23York every single one of those has this

1:00:26as some kind of say in the decision and

1:00:29as I'm standing there in front of them

1:00:31doing this little dance not getting paid

1:00:34for today because it's fitting day I

1:00:38look around the room like me the the top

1:00:41person in this room is probably making

1:00:43seven hundred thousand dollars here

1:00:44yeah the bottom person in this room is

1:00:47making 220,000 dollars a year and i'm

1:00:51not getting seven hundred fifty dollars

1:00:52for today because it's fitting well okay

1:00:56and like here's the thing from from me

1:00:59being a karma suck you know being the

1:01:01holden caulfield of the operation if

1:01:03somebody said to me hey what if we paid

1:01:05you whatever your dingaling rate is to

1:01:07come and be fitted with clothes for a

1:01:10day and then be inspected by a crew of

1:01:13people at our leisure and to give you

1:01:15notes if somebody gave me that as the

1:01:18entire proposition i would say fuck no

1:01:20let alone will you then go do a talk

1:01:25show on the back of a truck

1:01:27I'm just here to say like when you look

1:01:28at it from that point of view no you

1:01:30couldn't pay me to do that that's

1:01:31ridiculous

1:01:32mm so but all this is just a little bit

1:01:35of a little bit of extra sky like saying

1:01:37like hey we're gonna pay you to come

1:01:40over repeated to come to our house and

1:01:42watch the price is right

1:01:44oh but also there's a day where you are

1:01:46paint the exterior of our house but we

1:01:49figured you know I figured you know

1:01:50that's pretty standard in the industry

1:01:51but wasn't sure about that exterior

1:01:54house painting stuff

1:01:56well and that's that's why in those

1:01:58situations I'm like I i feel i feel no

1:02:00shame about taking these shoes

1:02:04not at all I feel no shame about

1:02:09about asserting the fact that even

1:02:13though everybody in this room has a 401k

1:02:14everyone in this room is going to retire

1:02:16one day

1:02:17yeah I walk in and say look at my ass

1:02:20you dummies are they gonna do replace

1:02:27you

1:02:27yeah exactly i'm the talent you're like

1:02:29Greg Brady you fit the shoes

1:02:30yeah how do you like me like that may

1:02:32like me now what if i pulled his pants

1:02:34up really high is that funny that you

1:02:35really interesting point here is my ass

1:02:37my cloud you any questions i make you

1:02:39laugh a little more ass

1:02:41I'm keeping these fucking shoes and they

1:02:43can't do anything all weekend warriors

1:02:45left one of the what are they gonna do

1:02:46stay tone it down

1:02:47fuck you look at my ass again because i

1:02:50went to high school with these same

1:02:51people she just be sure did

1:02:53yeah you're gonna sue that's right I'm

1:02:55the piggy soon this story i'm scared to

1:03:00go back to my reunion because i just got

1:03:02divorced my husband 35 years

1:03:04yeah it's my 25th reunion Greg and I

1:03:06don't really talk much anymore

1:03:09oh it's complicated I told he cried i

1:03:15went to a Denny's the couple years ago

1:03:17and the server came over and he was what

1:03:20he was wearing up a and is recognized

1:03:22that the server was about my age and I

1:03:25looked at his name tag and it said

1:03:27dennys employees since 1986 I was like

1:03:32that's the year I graduated from high

1:03:33school

1:03:34oh shit that's the year he graduated

1:03:36from high school

1:03:38absolutely and i ordered a pancake who

1:03:42and I had a real moment

1:03:45uh-huh of feeling like all but all that

1:03:51time that I felt like I was just

1:03:54throwing time down a down a turlet sure

1:03:58well there's another there's an

1:03:59alternate universe black mirror version

1:04:02of this where what if we lived in a

1:04:04world where each of us had to wear a

1:04:06nametag about the thing we mostly done

1:04:09since high school

1:04:11in that case is pretty simple it might

1:04:13actually seemed pretty honorable yeah I

1:04:15have worked at this location since then

1:04:18yeah somehow managing to fuck it up

1:04:19since 1986 and what would your nametag

1:04:22say that

1:04:22that's pretty much it might be it might

1:04:24be a GF yeah i mean will be something

1:04:28along the lines of you know snatching

1:04:30defeat from the jaws of victory since

1:04:321980 Maddox not working up to his

1:04:35potential since 1986 yeah 3/5 that's

1:04:38interesting so you you were young for

1:04:40your grade I was old for mine and we

1:04:42graduated your part that's interesting

1:04:44question 8585 I always thought if I was

1:04:47a good year all those terrible year we

1:04:48were bribing the bottom of the barrel

1:04:50for every part of my generation also our

1:04:52school colors were green and yellow and

1:04:54not a nice green or a nice yellow I

1:04:57always thought green and yellow was like

1:04:59if a high school had green yellow

1:05:02it was by that point in time all the

1:05:05other color schemes had been taken by

1:05:07better high schools and somebody was

1:05:09just looking at a pallet wheel now it's

1:05:12like they found it's like from

1:05:12lost-and-found hoop it's green and

1:05:14yellow and it was like a kind of like a

1:05:16sickly yellow looks like you got some

1:05:17kind of like a like a liver problem

1:05:19yellow yeah I think that's what this one

1:05:22before but one tenth grade they made

1:05:24painters hats for school spirit and sold

1:05:26them and they misspelled the name of the

1:05:28mascots on the back so you know 670

1:05:33people had six sure had had painters has

1:05:35said that boosting years on it

1:05:37a1c boutonnieres

1:05:42hey where the marker tears at the booth

1:05:45and here's hit its but at least where

1:05:48you were going to school there were

1:05:51historical boutonnieres

1:05:54no I think they just call it that

1:05:55because of the the football team I don't

1:05:57know that's you know what that's a

1:05:58really good point is the football team

1:05:59from tamp nah i think came around in

1:06:03this state seventies to Bruce appearance

1:06:06attempt to boost in years and I think my

1:06:08high school predated that so i don't

1:06:10know if they did a pivot to become busan

1:06:12years they might they might have been

1:06:14the you know the new jersey retirees

1:06:16until then I'm not sure something more

1:06:17appropriate for the setting in anchorage

1:06:20in the seventies I was a little league

1:06:22baseball team that was called the Padres

1:06:25the other the pot LOL i'm for service

1:06:29I thought that was the star wars

1:06:30reference yeah yeah okay likelike the

1:06:32San Diego's san diego padres and which

1:06:35in san diego

1:06:36makes sense because your father

1:06:37admissions and stuff that's right

1:06:38there's some historical Padre

1:06:40yeah but there are no Padres and

1:06:42anything we haven't fucking busan years

1:06:45in new port richey at felt I felt very

1:06:48much like i was very confused because we

1:06:51also kept the colors of the Padres which

1:06:54was that shameful southwestern all and

1:06:57brown goo & you not good in the Astros I

1:07:02think seventies throwback Houston Astros

1:07:03colors would look really cool you just

1:07:05could have been the Astros that would've

1:07:07been cool well but there's no like the

1:07:11houston astros where the Astros because

1:07:13Astro is short for astro not as a space

1:07:16and Houston is space town USA but the

1:07:20Anchorage team should have been either

1:07:24the east high oil profit ears or the

1:07:30East I genocide assists last nice you

1:07:33know the East time I I do you can get

1:07:36one of those names like you know

1:07:36Stanford's team is the Cardinal they

1:07:38have one of those cool like plural names

1:07:40you could have been the East High

1:07:42awkward silence you start sounds that

1:07:45sounds like dr. google it

1:07:47the east by assimilation uh huh the East

1:07:51I a chevy short beds em shorts because

1:07:56it was the early eighties sure and what

1:07:58you wanna know what we would've been the

1:08:00chevy stepside the stepside the stepside

1:08:02sounds a little fancy you had top hats

1:08:04right the step sides that sounds like a

1:08:06game for the Warriors a little bit

1:08:08Yeah Yeah right the step size they were

1:08:10baseball shirts and top hats and their

1:08:12weapon of choice is the feathered

1:08:14outside come out and discuss the

1:08:16property lines general special treasures

1:08:19your feather duster and then they put it

1:08:22right in your face

1:08:22they're like how am I going on in your

1:08:25life she kicked in the balls

1:08:29that's got kind of asynchronous gang

1:08:35warfare

1:08:35yeah yeah that's right why I was

1:08:38thinking about this the other day what

1:08:39happened to the stepside pickup stepside

1:08:42pickup

1:08:42mmm those big ones gotta step

1:08:45well you know it's like the one where

1:08:47the wheel wells in the back stick out

1:08:51because the bed itself is made smaller

1:08:56right like a like Google stepside pickup

1:08:58huh you're gonna see that is the classic

1:09:01pickup look well because the thing about

1:09:04clearance is you can strain by axles the

1:09:07only way to get your axle is it said

1:09:08that that's the guns and roses story

1:09:10that that's good that you're done you're

1:09:18done that got heal