Roderick on the Line

Ep. 201: "Cowboy Hat Boss"

 

  hello hi John [TS]

  hi Merlin has gone good yeah i was just [TS]

  watching the music video for in excesses [TS]

  mediate who which one the MTV Music [TS]

  Video Award for something this best [TS]

  video back in the old times i don't know [TS]

  if you remember mediate the song but [TS]

  it's the one where where they just say [TS]

  words that rhyme with mediate how / like [TS]

  all along it doesn't have a course and [TS]

  the video is the hem standing in some [TS]

  kind of industrial area doing the Bob [TS]

  Dylan don't look back and say it sounds [TS]

  like a subterranean we didn't start the [TS]

  fire textual that's exactly right and he [TS]

  just said but they actually do they [TS]

  actually cop the like word on a piece of [TS]

  paper flip thing that's fresh and that [TS]

  room and they want an award and I [TS]

  remember and this is you know this is [TS]

  the era of course where they were also [TS]

  wearing like jeans to cheat [TS]

  strategically rip knees her and little [TS]

  round glasses and and the sixties we're [TS]

  gonna uh-huh [TS]

  it was so awful and you know this is [TS]

  what passed for this was what passed for [TS]

  like like culture when we were we were [TS]

  just we were at the dawn of our lives [TS]

  were sitting there just like what's [TS]

  gonna happen to us what amazing things [TS]

  going to happen to us [TS]

  this was the best part of it can I i [TS]

  mean i don't watch the video while [TS]

  recording kind i'm going to guess kind [TS]

  of get some words [TS]

  okay go ahead Watergate no I don't think [TS]

  so gr8 m8 she's great no let me do you [TS]

  want me to read them to you sure [TS]

  hallucinate [TS]

  k segregate because they make this a [TS]

  great gate spelled desegregate who [TS]

  mediates right that's title song mediate [TS]

  alleviate mhm and here's that I was what [TS]

  was I remember the first time I heard [TS]

  the song i was listening I was like [TS]

  alright alright segregating behind that [TS]

  mediate and then the fifth thing it says [TS]

  the fifth lyric is try not eight try not [TS]

  to hate try not to try not to hate that [TS]

  doesn't doesn't really rhyme with [TS]

  mediate given up kind of early on that [TS]

  1i think I mean it's like try not to [TS]

  hate but not try not to hate cannot hate [TS]

  love your mate [TS]

  don't suffocate on your own hate all [TS]

  right we've already used hate in try not [TS]

  to hate [TS]

  don't suffocate on your own hey time for [TS]

  this for this to work it has to be a [TS]

  like okay we'll take x-rays I need to [TS]

  rhyme with me out like you gotta build a [TS]

  little story out of that [TS]

  yeah yeah and later I don't want to be [TS]

  repeating a lot of stuff in the first [TS]

  act like that like its storytelling [TS]

  designate your love as fate what what [TS]

  the fuck does that mean we'll see that's [TS]

  the Australian shit right there natured [TS]

  love is faid Richard Nixon Watergate [TS]

  he's great on a plane oneworld state now [TS]

  it's getting a little baby is getting [TS]

  real now that as human freight the [TS]

  number eight [TS]

  okay it goes downhill from there i was i [TS]

  was hoping what the reason i got started [TS]

  listening to the song as I was hoping [TS]

  that it said innovate sure because come [TS]

  on i'm looking for every opportunity I [TS]

  can to get in on this innovation sphere [TS]

  yeah and I wanted to say innovate so [TS]

  that i could repurpose the song as a [TS]

  kind of as a kind of pain to innovation [TS]

  oh this is not good appreciate fabricate [TS]

  emulate the truth dilate yeah like [TS]

  pretty Kate has sex ornate what now [TS]

  devastate appreciate depreciate [TS]

  fabricate emulate the truth dilate yeah [TS]

  everybody starts to repeat because these [TS]

  Peaks it feels like he's he said it all [TS]

  libera to liberate liberate liberate to [TS]

  annihilate atomic fate [TS]

  no but it's a little bit gets a little [TS]

  bit of the portion measure current is [TS]

  today's headlines [TS]

  yeah but but but but no innovate in all [TS]

  it is easy designate your love John [TS]

  what's the message of the song is it is [TS]

  it is it one of those like our right now [TS]

  Van Halen time songs where it's just it [TS]

  feels more like a right here right now [TS]

  is it supposed to be like shit is real [TS]

  this is happening [TS]

  yeah that's right that's why I think [TS]

  that's exactly right it's it-it-it its [TS]

  political without actually saying [TS]

  anything about what should be different [TS]

  let alone what already is there [TS]

  yeah it touches on some things [TS]

  desegregation it touches on one one [TS]

  world government which i'm not sure they [TS]

  fully understood what they were saying [TS]

  gravitate the earth sound wait its [TS]

  there's a lot of pro sex talk and [TS]

  radiate we all rotate and I don't know [TS]

  whether that was 1998 he meant or at 98 [TS]

  miles per second overhead 98 degrees on [TS]

  that this got a second pass John I think [TS]

  this is this is a metric pressure [TS]

  yeah well guilt debate the edge serrate [TS]

  a better rate the youth irate see it's [TS]

  got irate youth in there so it did it [TS]

  but i think it was a time when you could [TS]

  just see it a couple years ago I don't [TS]

  know if you remember jonathan coulton [TS]

  and I made a a christmas album idea we [TS]

  have your argument and oh you're one of [TS]

  the few ornaments that didn't break in [TS]

  shipping about I without the box without [TS]

  puts things in it that nice huh [TS]

  but a we needed a Hanukkah song alright [TS]

  sure and so is this is this is that did [TS]

  the one truly great Hanukkah song [TS]

  yeah the one truly great Hanukkah song [TS]

  other than a dreidel dreidel dreidel is [TS]

  which is a Hanukkah song right now I [TS]

  know I know [TS]

  it's a I we wrote wikipedia Hanukkah [TS]

  which was me reading the wikipedia entry [TS]

  for hanukkah over a funky Jam and I [TS]

  thought in the spirit of INXS is mediate [TS]

  this was going to be a this could be a [TS]

  smash hit [TS]

  uh-huh and and like people accuse me of [TS]

  phoned it in on that song that's the [TS]

  joke [TS]

  yeah but also i spent a lot of time [TS]

  learning how to pronounce those biblical [TS]

  era it's not like in a holdup in browser [TS]

  in the studio and i started reading you [TS]

  have to do some tell music scholarship i [TS]

  did i had to move it and and so I'm a [TS]

  little mad actually the kind you know [TS]

  that in excess could get I mean they [TS]

  have a they have a million-and-a-half [TS]

  use of this of this song and that look [TS]

  it doesn't even look like I'm just [TS]

  looking at the thumbnail that it's in [TS]

  color [TS]

  he's on the wrong side of the screen it [TS]

  doesn't he doesn't look like [TS]

  subterranean homesick blues external [TS]

  don't pay that and and they walk out [TS]

  there did look at various denim jean and [TS]

  various like you know you remember the [TS]

  band world party now heís got Carla [TS]

  Wallin timer glasses got Carl wall and [TS]

  Rollins Ballinger falling on hammer [TS]

  while your hammer said from tomorrow I [TS]

  don't want to say on this ship of fools [TS]

  is great i love the waterboys John are [TS]

  using the waterboys that's the same guy [TS]

  from the waterboys not the same time [TS]

  Mike Scott the main guy fucks Comrade [TS]

  Stalin said they become too westernized [TS]

  that that's Mike Scott yeah you that the [TS]

  other guy from the waterboys is the guy [TS]

  from world party uh-huh [TS]

  I had no idea that the excess classes [TS]

  whoa yeah my mom wanted more LOL kdj [TS]

  roll party just came out of nowhere I [TS]

  just thought they were just like you [TS]

  know like world water boys were very [TS]

  important they had important music MMA [TS]

  their music was very important [TS]

  it's also many seeds yeah I think hold [TS]

  the moon is one of the great songs to [TS]

  wonderful song i saw the crash [TS]

  sent you know there's a lot of jingle [TS]

  jangle in that dont le zie called kala [TS]

  Wallin my mother is iucn bang on the [TS]

  keyboard that video i Goti please bang [TS]

  on the keyboard knows huh you see the o [TS]

  the moon now you at the image i sent you [TS]

  well then let me see your informed [TS]

  consent on skype but you have to login [TS]

  I don't see that may present you're not [TS]

  suggesting his papers i'm looking [TS]

  through my papers I don't see any images [TS]

  you sent me a sexy on the text [TS]

  Oh texting stop sending things in skype [TS]

  because it wants you to login even [TS]

  though you're already using skype so i [TS]

  stopped sending things to you and Skye [TS]

  does this here [TS]

  yeah WTF begin looking out on the big [TS]

  screen I'm oh my goodness I'm so proud [TS]

  of my daughter for this struggle with a [TS]

  big award my daughter did every stitch [TS]

  of this herself [TS]

  yeah except for one important part that [TS]

  I wanted cuteness the one pic did did [TS]

  she didn't also by the black electrical [TS]

  tape or whatever your shoulders my [TS]

  gorilla tape I let her use son now but [TS]

  this is ok so she killed it with this on [TS]

  my god facts about arrow pointing to [TS]

  Amelia Earhart when she was when she was [TS]

  a teen she cut her hair inch by inch so [TS]

  her mom didn't notice so much i was [TS]

  looking at is a large poster board up [TS]

  for her Amelia Earhart you have to do a [TS]

  project on somebody that's important to [TS]

  you and so she didn't Amelia Earhart and [TS]

  so I helped her and I'll help you find [TS]

  some photos and stuff like that but I [TS]

  also i like her handwriting very much [TS]

  but did you do appreciate their just a [TS]

  slightly right of Center which but she [TS]

  taped on the page is it a I've no I'm [TS]

  not just the first first pitch [TS]

  Amelia Arizona wikipedia oh yeah i know [TS]

  i did see that that was right out of my [TS]

  pocket I is my report [TS]

  yeah I mean she did some original [TS]

  scholarship we watch documentary she [TS]

  drew clouds she true what's the name of [TS]

  that island that are the island should [TS]

  brought us a call the name of the [TS]

  rikki-tikki-tavi rikki-tikki-tavi the [TS]

  island hawaii that looks like a steak [TS]

  that's a very small island as a hard [TS]

  target to hit stick island hard target [TS]

  but so so I see this I walk in [TS]

  and I'm like oh my god you did [TS]

  everything on this except the letters [TS]

  mommy helped with the letters and she's [TS]

  like now she did the letters to the [TS]

  prettiest used to one is an l think [TS]

  they're great [TS]

  is this a nice report it's nice but what [TS]

  are you gonna do about that the fact [TS]

  that that the the page is just a copy [TS]

  from well now if you go and read you [TS]

  know Amelia are here so this is her [TS]

  report part she always liked to quote [TS]

  unquote boy stuff when she was a kid she [TS]

  and the neighborhood kids made a roller [TS]

  coaster and center and she would do I [TS]

  wish I I don't even I said don't correct [TS]

  the spelling this is perfect put this on [TS]

  I love it but I do it's funny because I [TS]

  can 88 i always forget about 21 printing [TS]

  and I do print I forget two things I [TS]

  forget about comments and forget about [TS]

  footnotes so I go to print a recipe and [TS]

  I think oh no problem I can see this is [TS]

  like what its gonna be 34 pages i forget [TS]

  about the comments so also it just [TS]

  starts printing and print dress case [TS]

  they forgot about footnotes so I printed [TS]

  out the 58 pages of amelia earhart's [TS]

  wikipedia entry just so we could refer [TS]

  to in fact check [TS]

  no comments or footnotes comments or [TS]

  foot the kind of footnote I suppose [TS]

  yeah i don't i don't print it's one of [TS]

  those things you should know about me i [TS]

  didn't need to print but the print now I [TS]

  don't print I don't fax I don't I don't [TS]

  print sign and write that Bob I sell [TS]

  anything that I don't sprinkle like I [TS]

  don't staple i don't i knows i can't [TS]

  figure it out tonight so i just wanna [TS]

  hang with your daughter huh [TS]

  I we want yeah you know it's funny you [TS]

  know we watched like literally yesterday [TS]

  i'll tell you what we watch later today [TS]

  we watch sad sweet three we will know we [TS]

  watched I heard this better than it [TS]

  seems we watch sad sweetheart of the [TS]

  rodeo featuring a young John Roderick [TS]

  mando you did not we see my pivot there [TS]

  are pivoting on any sky [TS]

  yeah I don't have a very very fun video [TS]

  it's a fun video I feel like if you [TS]

  watch the set sweetheart of the rodeo [TS]

  video you will feel if you're following [TS]

  along the narrative at all [TS]

  you're going to notice right in the sort [TS]

  of center of the heart of the second [TS]

  part of the the film the film experience [TS]

  there's a you know and this music video [TS]

  costs are you ready $500,000 wow it [TS]

  looks expect another thing that sucks [TS]

  about the copy that's up is really kind [TS]

  of crappy quality i remember i watch [TS]

  that from the first time I was aware of [TS]

  you and aware of harvey danger and your [TS]

  relationship now let's talk i love that [TS]

  i thought was a great video that's a lot [TS]

  of money [TS]

  it's a lot of money with a friend in [TS]

  London was that Leonardo recoupable [TS]

  revocable but i'm sure it was at the [TS]

  very tail end of a time when you would [TS]

  spend 500 thousand dollars on the a [TS]

  music video [TS]

  wow you hire her a Hollywood actress to [TS]

  be in it [TS]

  hollywood actress in it and you know and [TS]

  the guy that was making the video right [TS]

  it was that like that was his year he [TS]

  was that was getting was getting paid [TS]

  nobody was getting paid [TS]

  yeah i think i paid em but right at the [TS]

  center of the film the narrative of [TS]

  course [TS]

  spoiler alert is a woman whose [TS]

  daydreaming about having a bit different [TS]

  better more interesting like the one she [TS]

  has inches fantasizing they slowly [TS]

  introduce these elements that are little [TS]

  magically real were like more and more [TS]

  like she starts hallucinating things [TS]

  that about Cowboys that are taking place [TS]

  in her office space we actually entered [TS]

  everything starting to get rodeoed right [TS]

  rodeo it out and so Ione Skye current [TS]

  wife of benleah the Australian guitar [TS]

  player currently am and and daughter i [TS]

  don't know if you knew this Donovan to [TS]

  your friends with on Facebook [TS]

  that's right one I'm and friends with [TS]

  Ben and Ione although i haven't seen her [TS]

  in a long time not since she tied me up [TS]

  in this music video yeah but halfway to [TS]

  get tied up in a lot of videos we [TS]

  watched blue diamonds after you get a [TS]

  complete a nice to get tied up in that [TS]

  video actually the more I think about it [TS]

  I'm that should have been a theme [TS]

  running through all my videos and now [TS]

  i'm super embarrassed that I didn't [TS]

  think about 15 years depressive there [TS]

  was I could have just been let every [TS]

  video I'm tied up that would've made my [TS]

  videos better because I would have been [TS]

  fucking dancing around anyway have fun [TS]

  to do right at the heart of the film [TS]

  there's a moment when [TS]

  she opens the door to her boss's office [TS]

  and she's walking in to deliver some [TS]

  papers to her boss she opens the door [TS]

  but instead of her boss's office [TS]

  it's a long dirt walk across a rodeo [TS]

  field and her boss is sitting at his [TS]

  desk wearing a cowboy hat and she she [TS]

  makes the walk and puts the papers on [TS]

  his desk and then there's the switches [TS]

  the scene switches or something that's [TS]

  that's that's key moment in establishing [TS]

  the character of the boss [TS]

  mmm the boss is me I am the boss and if [TS]

  you watch the video very closely you'll [TS]

  never walk that I never got that see her [TS]

  walk across the field [TS]

  why would you want a short sleeve shirt [TS]

  for the boss because cowboy cowboy boss [TS]

  when you tied up the end your cookie [TS]

  work for NASA well so this is the beers [TS]

  the best the problem right you don't [TS]

  make a connection between the between [TS]

  cowboy boss in the middle of the film [TS]

  and the person getting tied up at the [TS]

  end the guy getting tied up with the [TS]

  engine seems like a co-worker i I've [TS]

  seen this since dozen times I've never [TS]

  made that connection so there I am are [TS]

  you in the scene with the cowboy hat as [TS]

  the boss I am the cowboy hat boss how [TS]

  much you would never know it because the [TS]

  shot was made from like 80 feet away and [TS]

  associate she walks across the field to [TS]

  put your papers on the desk the boss is [TS]

  sitting there with his pad on that's me [TS]

  i'm sitting there I spent an entire day [TS]

  sitting in that field for that to second [TS]

  shot and i said at the time you know [TS]

  like I'm not a guy that's going to sit [TS]

  around a music video shoot and not offer [TS]

  a few suggestions i said hey I think you [TS]

  want one close up shot on the boss and [TS]

  her putting the papers down on his desk [TS]

  to establish what's happening here [TS]

  because this is this the this is this [TS]

  gonna be call back later you're gonna [TS]

  want it to be clear you are tying up at [TS]

  the end you can really see your face at [TS]

  the end either it does not read as John [TS]

  Roderick because that's what they call [TS]

  that well with the little three-point I [TS]

  what's that called hot not hogtied where [TS]

  they call that [TS]

  yeah Hawk time yeah but like when you [TS]

  tie the calves like three lives together [TS]

  sometime [TS]

  it doesn't read as you it does not read [TS]

  his cowboy hat boss em and they didn't [TS]

  take your note on that the guy who was [TS]

  making music videos about it was about [TS]

  11 hours older than I was [TS]

  he had it all figured out is big-time [TS]

  Hollywood music video director getting [TS]

  paid $500,000 and I was the keyboard [TS]

  player in the band and so no nobody took [TS]

  my note and then the video came out it [TS]

  was like hey good job [TS]

  it doesn't make there's no story here [TS]

  you had a story now it's just a series [TS]

  of collect it's just a bunch of [TS]

  collected images all piled on top of [TS]

  each other there's no that's different [TS]

  that is a different that is a different [TS]

  video because that is a story that is [TS]

  that she traps at the end rather than [TS]

  just singing like she's deranged exactly [TS]

  right because that became real [TS]

  if she's just tying up some co-worker [TS]

  who stand in front of a copy machine [TS]

  then she's a lunatic it's only an intern [TS]

  like she's tying up the intern [TS]

  yeah and this video is a tragedy mm [TS]

  whereas if you had established the boss [TS]

  character then yes this video is like a [TS]

  revenge fantasy she's she is the [TS]

  triumphant hero so also i mean like not [TS]

  live underground you know when i hear i [TS]

  know i hear you that's Robert recoupable [TS]

  also you know there's a great tradition [TS]

  whether you're talking about an eighties [TS]

  movie or knees video or many other [TS]

  eighties things there's like the the [TS]

  mean boss not just talking 925 I'm [TS]

  talking about like the kind of like who [TS]

  the Dean who eventually jumps in the [TS]

  pool like that even work in warmer like [TS]

  you've got to establish that you've got [TS]

  to show her being oppressed by the sky [TS]

  that if there's anyone who is the [TS]

  antagonist I it if it exists it's either [TS]

  her reality or maybe her boyfriend [TS]

  because her boyfriend you know she sit [TS]

  on the couch with em he's pretty dull [TS]

  you know that the Mike Squires is in [TS]

  that music video and he gets a nice [TS]

  antagonistic moment how many takes did [TS]

  it take to get Mike Squires sorry just [TS]

  thinking of all the flashy yeah [TS]

  he gets in there uh with his little like [TS]

  he gives her a covetous glances nice as [TS]

  their as they pass in the copy room he [TS]

  is a co-worker well lascivious coworker [TS]

  and looks at her salaciously and so he [TS]

  got a little star turn Mike Squires nice [TS]

  but I was just a you know I could you [TS]

  could have had a paper doll [TS]

  yeah in place of me and that a shame [TS]

  it's just it's a damn shame that you [TS]

  have to really scrubbable yeah sure you [TS]

  even see me [TS]

  I think we started our daughter little [TS]

  because the scene where it's sean my [TS]

  favorite part of the song my favorite [TS]

  part of the video [TS]

  Sean you know Sean God he's such a [TS]

  performer he cannot be performing he's [TS]

  so big and he's install a system the [TS]

  catchy and as one [TS]

  my wife and I we haven't listened to [TS]

  this song on purpose because we don't [TS]

  like it because it hasn't come up in a [TS]

  while but as one we both go the Marlboro [TS]

  Man that of cancer was a rocket [TS]

  scientist when he was alive haha my [TS]

  daughter looked at us like we were out [TS]

  of our money on labor he's got a lot of [TS]

  flavor what's a lot of spin on the ball [TS]

  and then we watched you guys this is the [TS]

  weirdest lineup will align up a few guys [TS]

  and you're having some lady was for [TS]

  Seattle TV show but it was weird fucking [TS]

  lineup [TS]

  it was you sean michael on drums and [TS]

  handsome guy on base [TS]

  yeah I don't know what now when is that [TS]

  from so accomplished wires and Eric why [TS]

  wasn't this is all this is the redox [TS]

  it's the reader huh that y know Eric [TS]

  okay yeah it's the 2016 10 2013 I never [TS]

  remember his name but he was always nice [TS]

  and very handsome he's very very and so [TS]

  tell me his name [TS]

  are you sure you don't remember [TS]

  One Bowl as any state of your house [TS]

  yes-ish your turn [TS]

  pert bro Bobby know it's his name is [TS]

  Andy fits [TS]

  he's one of the great musicians of [TS]

  Seattle and if it has played on a lot of [TS]

  Records he's a calm extremely is calm [TS]

  and calming he's a wonderful guy he's [TS]

  going to back out of a hard time right [TS]

  now [TS]

  oh no i'm sorry i'm meeting him later [TS]

  today as a matter of all please tell me [TS]

  i said hi [TS]

  well here's the prayer i guess so i have [TS]

  a problem no problem is [TS]

  last night i got an email from a friend [TS]

  you may know you may have heard of [TS]

  George Meyer founder of the simpsons oh [TS]

  yeah right he said great [TS]

  no no that's the other founder of the [TS]

  simpsons and he passed away about a [TS]

  tragedy [TS]

  George was his friend but also one of [TS]

  the one of the developers of the [TS]

  simpsons yes right Kiki ever sent me a [TS]

  nice email you said you want to go to a [TS]

  baseball game i said yeah i do want to [TS]

  go to a baseball game he said great any [TS]

  day this week [TS]

  good and I said you know what any day [TS]

  this week i will go to a baseball game [TS]

  and he said great I'll get right back to [TS]

  you wanna take a look at the schedule [TS]

  and I said awesome and then I was very [TS]

  excited i was going to a baseball game [TS]

  with George nothing wrong with that [TS]

  walked around for a few hours good [TS]

  thinking about the baseball game with [TS]

  your job is going to go to sometime this [TS]

  week then i get a message from my friend [TS]

  Andy fits who's one of my favorite [TS]

  musicians and lovely man he said go [TS]

  through a little bit of thing we want to [TS]

  get together for some something [TS]

  something and i was like of course I [TS]

  want to be there for my friend Andy want [TS]

  to meetup want to get maybe a bowl of [TS]

  fun talk about some stuff throw it [TS]

  around two guys mano-a-mano so I was [TS]

  like well let's get together tomorrow it [TS]

  seems like we should you know the the [TS]

  the conversation should just get [TS]

  commenced upon right yeah somebody's [TS]

  like having a time stand long I'm scared [TS]

  where this is [TS]

  on immediately I get an email from [TS]

  Georgetown you want to the baseball game [TS]

  tomorrow night I'm like but i just made [TS]

  a plan [TS]

  I didn't have anything to do all week [TS]

  this is how it always happens i just [TS]

  made a plan to go hang out with my [TS]

  friend who's gone through a patch and [TS]

  now that's the exact time that George [TS]

  wants to go to the baseball game and now [TS]

  oh no right because i don't want to you [TS]

  know you don't want to say no to anybody [TS]

  you don't want to go you don't want to [TS]

  call your friends having hard times they [TS]

  can you postpone your hard time one it [TS]

  sounds like the reason you're going to [TS]

  get him sounds like you're trying to get [TS]

  out of it [TS]

  yeah right all my friends have a hard [TS]

  time I told him I had two go hand you're [TS]

  just gonna be like I thought you said [TS]

  you free always said you can't bring [TS]

  yourself to say my kids sick like that's [TS]

  yeah right [TS]

  oh you have it yeah I got some friend of [TS]

  Mines whatever I can why didn't you just [TS]

  say you didn't want to go to the [TS]

  baseball game so then the second so then [TS]

  he offers me the second option which is [TS]

  friday night which is the beginning [TS]

  memorial day and then and that is I [TS]

  didn't even think like that friday was [TS]

  in play i was like i'm available all [TS]

  every day this week went by which i [TS]

  meant monday tuesday wednesday thursday [TS]

  because you know friday memorial day [TS]

  it's like to be on the in the RV on the [TS]

  open road so he comes back with George [TS]

  comes back with two baseball game [TS]

  opportunities and and all the sudden I'm [TS]

  just like door uh so i have to write [TS]

  back and say what I meant was tuesday [TS]

  wednesday thursday and then I sound like [TS]

  it like a dingaling we do you do like [TS]

  but I can't cancel on Andi and I can't [TS]

  you know I can't change memorial day so [TS]

  it went from i went from walking around [TS]

  on my tippy-toes thinking about going to [TS]

  the baseball game with George to here i [TS]

  am again here i am again on my own [TS]

  going down the only road i've ever known [TS]

  yeah which is the road of song like a [TS]

  drifter your I was born to walk alone [TS]

  alone alone alone alone alone run me da [TS]

  cheese great Watergate conjugate [TS]

  innovative entrepreneur eight [TS]

  so those are the sixties you know you [TS]

  know I'm you know that I man in excess [TS]

  defender but I also one of the big time [TS]

  INXS haters [TS]

  yeah it's one of those many things I [TS]

  avoid talking to me about INXS we're [TS]

  talking about in excess or listening to [TS]

  index which would make you happier i'm [TS]

  not i'm not a huge fan [TS]

  you don't like it except I didn't say [TS]

  that I didn't say that I 60 more dollars [TS]

  for years you dined out of that hole [TS]

  like I'm not a fan thing and now you're [TS]

  all of your fan of everything now be [TS]

  wrong i'm a huge Bob Dylan fans yeah see [TS]

  now [TS]

  yeah I the tides have turned you are the [TS]

  old crunching guy who doesn't like [TS]

  things and I love every oh my god i sold [TS]

  my combs haha i know uh captain america [TS]

  captain my America a four-star superhero [TS]

  i love it also effective [TS]

  um no it's because that I super super [TS]

  like like almost half a half a dozen of [TS]

  their songs and then I just kind of [TS]

  really don't like a bunch of them we [TS]

  talked about one time and take a little [TS]

  ugly use between you and me rapport with [TS]

  our with our listeners know this was [TS]

  with me so you and I were talking about [TS]

  in excess and it got ugly [TS]

  well no I avoided it before got two of [TS]

  the I like the one thing that's great [TS]

  song i like the dream on white girl [TS]

  white boy black girl white boy i like [TS]

  that song a lot it has a different title [TS]

  because the eighties you give a title [TS]

  that wasn't in the song [TS]

  yeah there's that I like that song is [TS]

  about em down down [TS]

  shoosh bah-bah-bah you know I didn't [TS]

  like super salad bar like I didn't like [TS]

  that era mi know but but but the soup [TS]

  and salad bar so someone didn't like [TS]

  that one not know that's not very good [TS]

  now [TS]

  ok also never tear us apart is a great [TS]

  song [TS]

  yeah okay yeah you know what I went like [TS]

  that's good there come on that's a [TS]

  really good song and that's later period [TS]

  so it at the thing you want to do with [TS]

  in excess and say like REM know all the [TS]

  shit in the early days was good and all [TS]

  the later stuff is bad you pull depeche [TS]

  mode right but that does not work with [TS]

  in excess because there is garbage in [TS]

  the garbage out this terrible songs at [TS]

  the beginning terrible songs at the end [TS]

  but then how do you account for the [TS]

  great songs at the beginning and the [TS]

  great songs at the end you can account [TS]

  for them unless you can let you make an [TS]

  actual study of this you gotta really [TS]

  get in there you gotta put on some [TS]

  gloves it has mass suit you wait into [TS]

  the XS and the thing about it is beyond [TS]

  my impression of INXS is that they wrote [TS]

  democratically right they never kicked [TS]

  the drummer out they never there's no [TS]

  change its INXS the entire time all of [TS]

  the bros and nobody steps forward as [TS]

  like well I'm kind of the genius here [TS]

  well that with the media it's long has [TS]

  11 writer on it who is a man called [TS]

  Andrew Farriss with ok two arms and two [TS]

  S's ok so he's a member of the band [TS]

  yes Andrew Farriss so maybe they're [TS]

  right and he got the glasses now he's a [TS]

  singer singer singer [TS]

  no Michael Hutchence is the single [TS]

  michael hutchence famous michael [TS]

  hutchence hmm michael hutchence [TS]

  everybody acknowledges alive did he take [TS]

  his own life [TS]

  no yeah it's not clear that i had one of [TS]

  those countries situations yeah okay all [TS]

  right now said but but you know you got [TS]

  the impression that they really worked [TS]

  as a band to change i like don't change [TS]

  oh my god it's one of the great songs [TS]

  great that's great i still walk along [TS]

  and uh change down now and they had the [TS]

  don't change music video [TS]

  who is that they had a really good idea [TS]

  really good idea which was that they [TS]

  were going to play they're going to get [TS]

  into the back of a pickup truck and [TS]

  drive away while still playing the song [TS]

  but what do you do with the drummer [TS]

  alright so everybody gets in all the [TS]

  bass player jumps in the guitar player [TS]

  they're all still playing this and then [TS]

  he'll hit defender or something at yeah [TS]

  yeah he did [TS]

  yes he's like drumming on the side of [TS]

  the truck and that just doesn't work you [TS]

  can still hear the kick drum in the [TS]

  recording I wasn't convinced [TS]

  yeah I don't like that there's a [TS]

  geodetic right nonny identity music I [TS]

  don't like that [TS]

  mhm its on the screen you should you [TS]

  should be able to hear it and vice versa [TS]

  yeah precious heart I don't know need [TS]

  you tuna they're gross [TS]

  there's so much bad stuff though but I [TS]

  you-know-who 6h it's terrible [TS]

  terrible and yet and I'm i will go all [TS]

  the way to the mass about what entitles [TS]

  there's somebody bad stops all the way [TS]

  devil inside you never inside and give [TS]

  it to inglewood wasn't that's not good [TS]

  what what you need [TS]

  hmm which a lot of people i think if you [TS]

  were using if you were putting the REM [TS]

  overlay on in excess [TS]

  uh-huh what you need would be orange [TS]

  crush right it's the first sign that the [TS]

  worm has turned blue [TS]

  huh and i don't mean the worm has turned [TS]

  into a Shakespearean sense i mean in [TS]

  tequila send literally in the bottle [TS]

  it's turned it's gone it has not turned [TS]

  on you turned to a bad word oh I see you [TS]

  do a little you doing a little sign [TS]

  language stuff here a little bit fine [TS]

  little Foucault pendulum but i'm saying [TS]

  there are a lot of people that are gonna [TS]

  go what you need is with the beginning [TS]

  about it and I'm gonna say no bad access [TS]

  was there all along and good and excess [TS]

  was there all along and what you need [TS]

  actually is in the good excess camp i [TS]

  think i like when the i'm not saying [TS]

  they're trying to do this but i like [TS]

  when they do it in my head they're [TS]

  trying to sound like hoodoo gurus that's [TS]

  the one I like I like that in excess and [TS]

  there's someone they seem like they're [TS]

  trying to some more like I don't know [TS]

  like not sisters of mercy but there they [TS]

  get kinda like he's saying don't go [TS]

  getting too low and it's got all the bam [TS]

  bam kind of stuff i don't like the map [TS]

  stuff that then that what you need has [TS]

  more Batman it's got a lot about that [TS]

  and almost any other song except you're [TS]

  rich mix missionary man who are in [TS]

  missionary man has almost exactly the [TS]

  same amount of Bob as in excess what you [TS]

  need and they're contemporaneous and I [TS]

  think missionary man actually want to [TS]

  mtv music that is about that song [TS]

  yeah have you stored as with the mission [TS]

  and our jam right arrow and the guy in [TS]

  the music video for missionary man looks [TS]

  exactly like the guy from world party [TS]

  oh my goodness go go go look in look [TS]

  immediately [TS]

  mmm i think it's almost maybe is the chi [TS]

  it's hard to watch this without watching [TS]

  it I'm gonna come back to this mission [TS]

  their radio supply have you explored the [TS]

  previous band of her and they store the [TS]

  tourists so what now [TS]

  they were in a new wave power pop man [TS]

  before that called the tourists you're [TS]

  talking about Annie Lennox and Dave [TS]

  Stewart yeah and they do a cover of oh I [TS]

  only want to be with you [TS]

  that is one of the great things let's [TS]

  look right now let's go to one of you do [TS]

  know that that would be fun it [TS]

  [Music] [TS]

  yeah go look guys go google on the [TS]

  tourists I only want to be with no not [TS]

  that version with the other version the [TS]

  2010 film or wandering a florian henckel [TS]

  von donnersmarck now that's director [TS]

  that's kraftwerk cover band literally [TS]

  florian henckel von donnersmarck is the [TS]

  director of the tourists starring now [TS]

  somebody angelina jolie is in it [TS]

  the reason I print a lot is we have we [TS]

  print and we scan we scan things and we [TS]

  print things and i started printing out [TS]

  photos [TS]

  mm do you print out all your emails and [TS]

  put them in a file cabinet prospective [TS]

  only way I can get inbox zero bee-boop [TS]

  that no fuck you were aware how many [TS]

  wait how many folders do you have let me [TS]

  get got a bunch of nada [TS]

  god damn it um yes you do but it's okay [TS]

  i just went full on Roscoe didn't I up [TS]

  to remember the game a dog member flash [TS]

  like they gave him my game a little [TS]

  hound dog is the joke they couldn't have [TS]

  a kid to the show so they added a dog [TS]

  can give him a little dog named flash so [TS]

  now you have you ever noticed that [TS]

  sheriff Rosco p Coltrane is proto Bob [TS]

  Odenkirk [TS]

  how we have right I see that right oh [TS]

  yeah Bob Odenkirk is doing Roscoe p [TS]

  Coltrane right about one-third of his [TS]

  characters that's yeah you know that's [TS]

  finally on the HBO again on there a [TS]

  little streaming channel so i justyou [TS]

  yeah yeah and I think that's one of the [TS]

  shows that didn't belong to HBO you know [TS]

  I it doesn't matter anyway I started [TS]

  watching these shows again it's still [TS]

  doing [TS]

  yeah that's what it comes up a lot of [TS]

  this program and people probably don't [TS]

  know what we're talking about we make a [TS]

  show checks so this is one of those [TS]

  weird things where I you know I i [TS]

  discovered this the other day I was [TS]

  talking to a close friend about some [TS]

  component of the alcohol recovery [TS]

  movement and I realized that she really [TS]

  didn't have a encyclopedic knowledge of [TS]

  like addiction dependency culture and [TS]

  literature and I was a time when [TS]

  everything was 12-step deputy like in [TS]

  the late eighties early nineties there's [TS]

  a giant self-help boom and part of that [TS]

  self-help boom lucky good luck suddenly [TS]

  go to the bookstore this entire section [TS]

  of pink books out of nowhere [TS]

  remember you can always go right [TS]

  together those mainly marketed at women [TS]

  and women love pink so they're all these [TS]

  pink books and everything was a call [TS]

  recovery your recovery they say recovery [TS]

  that is to say that today I think so [TS]

  yeah there are a lot of people in [TS]

  recovery still although it's not it [TS]

  doesn't it doesn't feel like it's quite [TS]

  the cure all that it once was but it was [TS]

  I mean it got I don't sound insensitive [TS]

  because it helped a lot of people but I [TS]

  mean even the template AAA then you got [TS]

  into narcotics anonymous and then I [TS]

  think it became a lot about abuse like [TS]

  wasn't like recovering from a pelican [TS]

  abusive childhood that was up that was a [TS]

  part of it and then it then it got to a [TS]

  point where you could use the tenants or [TS]

  rather it was it was promoted that you [TS]

  could use the tenants of of Alcoholics [TS]

  Anonymous to address almost any issue so [TS]

  that you could you could be in recovery [TS]

  from television you could be four you [TS]

  know from over watching television you [TS]

  could be in recovery from [TS]

  I don't I mean that was the point at [TS]

  which I i got off anything but it was [TS]

  and I'm again I try because it helps you [TS]

  but it was as though anything that was [TS]

  traumatic and difficult or compulsive or [TS]

  anything that preoccupied your mind [TS]

  basement or caused you [TS]

  you know i don't i'm not exactly even [TS]

  sure because i didn't go to all the [TS]

  punchline became a punch line that you [TS]

  know that you're the key know there's [TS]

  several punchlines about a not to make [TS]

  fun of a but just to say like you know [TS]

  maybe you have a problem that becomes a [TS]

  punchline making amends to kinda becomes [TS]

  a punch line but this this person I was [TS]

  talking to was a millennium and she did [TS]

  not you know the millenniums millenniums [TS]

  are gonna make the Dean's look they're [TS]

  gonna make the Generation Y look like [TS]

  the greatest general more like [TS]

  generation why am i right row generation [TS]

  why not [TS]

  sochi they you know didn't come up in [TS]

  this they came up in post recovery irony [TS]

  era sure so she just doesn't even you [TS]

  know and I'm talking to her like oh yeah [TS]

  but I'm gonna happen at all this like [TS]

  with all this 12-step ism that sort of [TS]

  is just in the water where I live and [TS]

  she's like it's almost in a way reset [TS]

  where the one of them the millenniums [TS]

  are like alcohol alcoholics aren't they [TS]

  like people to live under bridges like [TS]

  no no no work with we spent years and [TS]

  years trying to take away the stigma who [TS]

  and now we neglected we didn't end that [TS]

  garden for a little while and all the [TS]

  millenniums like alcoholics that's gross [TS]

  yeah hopefully we have to start all over [TS]

  again we have to start we have to beat [TS]

  them all down with our alcoholic [TS]

  alcoholism like cricket bats [TS]

  it's a cricket but black wax 23 flag so [TS]

  a lot of you know a lot of language a [TS]

  language [TS]

  use but I feel a did you did I ever tell [TS]

  you the story about the time I got a I [TS]

  got a video like that I got texted a [TS]

  video from Dave Stewart no I don't think [TS]

  I know that I'm also just in consultable [TS]

  right now that looks like the the [TS]

  original mtv-style version of this video [TS]

  is just not available the tourists yeah [TS]

  used to be everywhere you'll still get [TS]

  the feeling but it's really it's a [TS]

  really cool a tease video so Dave [TS]

  Stewart texted you a video [TS]

  well yes so I had a friend who was [TS]

  working in the studio in Nashville with [TS]

  Dave Stewart producing and I was like [TS]

  you gotta be kidding me [TS]

  you gotta be kidding me you're working [TS]

  with Dave Stewart I'm kind of a little [TS]

  bit of a superfan [TS]

  yeah and the person I was talking to was [TS]

  also a millennium and they were like oh [TS]

  really who know like he's the producer [TS]

  on the sesh the house like he's the [TS]

  producer on the sesh [TS]

  I bet he is really looking forward to [TS]

  the weekend you get that's not what but [TS]

  he's also like you know major influence [TS]

  on me one of the Great's truly one of [TS]

  the grades and she was like old you want [TS]

  me to like say hi to him for you and I [TS]

  was like that [TS]

  yes I do I don't know why but I do [TS]

  and so a later on that night I get a [TS]

  video of Dave Stewart very close to the [TS]

  camera and honestly a little soused for [TS]

  him saying LOL LOL up [TS]

  hello John ourselves a stick with it [TS]

  keep it keep being it great [TS]

  masinloc who whatever [TS]

  cheers mate and then he turns around and [TS]

  and you know I think you anymore tassa [TS]

  fault that that's literally standing and [TS]

  always turns around maybe is also [TS]

  wearing a top hat [TS]

  members carrying a briefcase [TS]

  that's possibly handcuffed to his wrist [TS]

  and he walks slowly down the hall all [TS]

  the top hat didn't fall off [TS]

  no no it's a little jaunty angle all the [TS]

  way to the end and then he turns to the [TS]

  left but he doesn't like he doesn't [TS]

  smooth he gets to the end stops turns to [TS]

  the left its seeds off-screen like a [TS]

  steampunk basic program yeah and I just [TS]

  felt like wow that just made me that [TS]

  just made my night [TS]

  that's nice no it's nice that the [TS]

  Millennium are thought to to get the [TS]

  holeshot in my coveralls keep these kids [TS]

  today they tear away you don't get more [TS]

  into seconds of video of anything [TS]

  interesting we learned in the age of the [TS]

  handycam is that you got it you got to [TS]

  stay on one thing for a while right and [TS]

  then we'll do that today the kids don't [TS]

  know that today [TS]

  this wasn't a snapchat right this was a [TS]

  this was something else [TS]

  yeah this was that wasn't mine challenge [TS]

  this was a film that she was making just [TS]

  for me and she understood that that that [TS]

  was one old person communicating through [TS]

  that the internet tubes to another old [TS]

  person and she was just an intermediary [TS]

  and she was going to impose her [TS]

  millennium aesthetic on it over because [TS]

  she knew that this old person one [TS]

  well as continuing to perform all the [TS]

  way down the hall and that the other of [TS]

  the old person on the other end of the [TS]

  line was gonna keep watching this video [TS]

  even if he walked to infinity and she [TS]

  was like I'm gonna keep this camera [TS]

  rolling I don't know what you guys are [TS]

  doing [TS]

  I don't even know who you are I'm images [TS]

  of the tourists now and this is an evil [TS]

  this is like I didn't even think [TS]

  Maryland google young Annie Lennox well [TS]

  that how far off i will have a nice week [TS]

  that's how far off I what is the thing [TS]

  forget what they forget is that she's [TS]

  probably pushing 70 so a she looks I [TS]

  mean not that it matters she looks [TS]

  amazing today but like you know she was [TS]

  in her thirties and the earth makes i [TS]

  think god I wish you could see that [TS]

  she's wearing like a little skirt and [TS]

  it's like there's new way of going on [TS]

  and there's it's a white but it's got [TS]

  its got the classic 80s video that the [TS]

  white background and they're like [TS]

  standing on like pedestals and stuff its [TS]

  petals neway pedestal ah [TS]

  you know the other day I was you know we [TS]

  we sometimes talk about Linda Ronstadt [TS]

  yeah and then I was in a thrift store [TS]

  with a friend and she brought over a [TS]

  copy of the Linda Ronstadt album from [TS]

  1976 where she's actually on roller sky [TS]

  course that us something something USA [TS]

  so much at USA america USA hockey is his [TS]

  burger bank and she's wearing a jacket [TS]

  on then she's that jacket and I pretty [TS]

  sure satin shorts shorts or sound like [TS]

  Jim trunks all or maybe they're [TS]

  terrycloth either would be fine [TS]

  yeah right like there's a part of me [TS]

  that's the understatement shorts not [TS]

  even sure I've ever been with a woman [TS]

  who was wearing terry cloth shorts with [TS]

  a little with little white bunting [TS]

  uh-huh but that imprinted on me in 1976 [TS]

  oh yeah someone of the idea the feminine [TS]

  ideal and I've never I what I don't know [TS]

  why I haven't ever acted that play out [TS]

  yeah but in any case I realized that [TS]

  there's a huge difference for me between [TS]

  pre perm Linda Ronstadt post perm sure [TS]

  and I was not pro perm [TS]

  yeah i was anti Permian tire time that [TS]

  firms were more pressure and affliction [TS]

  they were everywhere my best friend got [TS]

  a perm [TS]

  I didn't like / 13 year old boy with a [TS]

  permanent he deliberately got an afro [TS]

  it's crazy to think you know Clapton all [TS]

  through cream had a prom a giant perm [TS]

  what is happening huh [TS]

  I don't know how women I i clicked on [TS]

  the tourists and I got a bunch of images [TS]

  of fleetwood mac in the studio and I'm [TS]

  not sorry about that either [TS]

  yeah seagull earns it learns from you [TS]

  this is such this is such an old old [TS]

  dude old day to him and joyce joyce [TS]

  meyers George myers lifemate yeah her [TS]

  ok nice double points you know who her [TS]

  father is her father is I don't be [TS]

  creepy but just google people on the [TS]

  internet there are her father is Lorenzo [TS]

  simple junior none other than the [TS]

  creator of Batman alongside William [TS]

  Dozier know [TS]

  haha you're kidding I'm not living in [TS]

  Spain that he's 57 was approached by [TS]

  William Dozier to develop the television [TS]

  series on the common wrote a pilot [TS]

  probably picked up series based on the [TS]

  air for the first four episodes also [TS]

  served as executive story editor fucking [TS]

  Batman do this explains so much [TS]

  hello dude he worked on three days of [TS]

  the Condor he was the screenplay for [TS]

  three days of the Condor I had no idea [TS]

  you love that movie [TS]

  I do and get a screenplay for papillon I [TS]

  am [TS]

  howdy good friends with Maria and I had [TS]

  just know he just passed a couple couple [TS]

  years ago you know she is a best-selling [TS]

  author [TS]

  yeah she did that movie heroes cookies [TS]

  right yeah I know her name is instant I [TS]

  saw her name I instantly recognized her [TS]

  name [TS]

  I'm gonna shoot 0 where did you go [TS]

  Bernadette ok which was a new york times [TS]

  bestselling book about abouts being in [TS]

  Seattle she taught fiction writing at [TS]

  the richard Hugo house [TS]

  it all comes took the call comes around [TS]

  next to which your band used to practice [TS]

  that's right i am basically I i'm [TS]

  basically the founder of the Richard [TS]

  Hugo house it's basically named after [TS]

  they throw you out to make it didn't [TS]

  yeah yeah we're gonna make it after all [TS]

  oh my god it's a analytics of the [TS]

  tourists photographed in 1980 in some [TS]

  kind of little like pearl beaded [TS]

  sleeveless blue go go dress [TS]

  yeah which is coming in she's really [TS]

  wonderful those were the times [TS]

  look at her she said look at Dave like a [TS]

  skinny is he's not anymore i know i know [TS]

  it happens happens to us when you know [TS]

  he's a ginger 2004 guy it's amazing [TS]

  amazing how he's gotten through it [TS]

  here's why because they blocked it [TS]

  fucking they locked the bit the vids got [TS]

  blocked the whole sesh y-block the sash [TS]

  the video contains content from SME [TS]

  whatever that is who is blocked it in [TS]

  your country on copyright is what it [TS]

  feels like to be Canadian things blocked [TS]

  ok just don't get stuff is that true [TS]

  Oh have your service well look what [TS]

  happened with our shirts like we didn't [TS]

  know about this like people buy our [TS]

  shirts in other countries and having [TS]

  like pay all this extra money for [TS]

  clothes w yeah about that [TS]

  well this is the thing about car [TS]

  verse right and that is the thing about [TS]

  commerce commerce is a shitshow yeah and [TS]

  all these always involves money almost [TS]

  always involves money but it's like they [TS]

  are trying with these duties to protect [TS]

  themselves against something right and [TS]

  rather than tax oil appropriately or [TS]

  rather than you know it Ted rather than [TS]

  tax people better making billions [TS]

  they're adding a 19-percent v 82a to a [TS]

  single t-shirt that you're ordering from [TS]

  some ding-a-lings in America it's like [TS]

  really that's how you're going to pay [TS]

  for your for universal public health is [TS]

  what these fuckin duties and the thing [TS]

  is most of the time they're just doing [TS]

  it because America has done a similar [TS]

  thing yeah it's like you talk about free [TS]

  trade bill clinton talk about free trade [TS]

  em free free the trade and this by the [TS]

  time this episode comes out it there [TS]

  won't be much piloted by a teacher so [TS]

  I'm not gonna say bye teacher what i [TS]

  will say is thank you to the people who [TS]

  bought t-shirts as I look at this right [TS]

  now John Roderick people have purchased [TS]

  1257 rock on the line t-shirts [TS]

  well done people thank you everybody [TS]

  knows that nice people to do that [TS]

  well it is I don't I don't I wouldn't [TS]

  say nice because i think they're getting [TS]

  a wonderful thing they're gonna be [TS]

  wonderful [TS]

  it's so nice isn't she so mad made you [TS]

  so mad when time was like John could [TS]

  make a big deal about this that's fuck [TS]

  it's free money and you said there's no [TS]

  such thing as free money [TS]

  wait a minute what why are you imitating [TS]

  me in the voice of somebody who works in [TS]

  a wake up in the boiler room of a [TS]

  submarine it doesn't know sort of your [TS]

  heart to heart that's what you sound [TS]

  like when you're texting sometimes yeah [TS]

  I told you about that day [TS]

  yeah I said to you I said it all home [TS]

  yeah everybody top had everybody can [TS]

  come here in kc everybody order radical [TS]

  on the line t-shirt got great t-shirt [TS]

  value for their money [TS]

  that's true and now they're going to be [TS]

  able to wear those shirts out it's going [TS]

  to improve [TS]

  move their chances of mating gonna get [TS]

  more tail than Sinatra right because [TS]

  they're gonna they're gonna be wearing [TS]

  the shirt someone is going to look at [TS]

  them from across the crowded dance floor [TS]

  and they're going to say there is a [TS]

  rather than the line listener [TS]

  I too AM erotic on the line listener [TS]

  it's absolutely right let's make whoopie [TS]

  yeah right even if they don't have a lot [TS]

  of finger banging just based on this one [TS]

  shirt I think he knows you knows what [TS]

  people don't care whose finger is where [TS]

  you put it I'm just glad we got you a [TS]

  shirt that's gonna put you in that [TS]

  situation where you can say yay or nay [TS]

  em right under I have learned that a lot [TS]

  of our listeners are millenniums yeah [TS]

  and they have all kinds of weird sex [TS]

  with each other we have only about this [TS]

  yeah but sex and they keep their [TS]

  virginity thought that's twice what I [TS]

  got keep talking about it because I [TS]

  think it's great i've been thinking [TS]

  about it a lot [TS]

  I've been thinking about it a lot it's [TS]

  it's really a new age it is a new age [TS]

  think about you all the versions out [TS]

  there who walk around here like these [TS]

  kids are really sophisticated but [TS]

  they're still virgins but banging but [TS]

  the Virgin's yeah but bangin but being [TS]

  virgins bad [TS]

  no I don't accept the recommendation by [TS]

  an accessory bamm-bamm but being virgins [TS]

  I would reevaluate their whole career [TS]

  but it's too late now you can feel it in [TS]

  your gut [TS]

  you'll be banging in the but I'm wow [TS]

  that's why you need to do you like gurus [TS]

  they were hot for a while I think the [TS]

  Australian yeah well who gurus were one [TS]

  of those bands that were like proto [TS]

  ma'am [TS]

  they were like rootsy they would like it [TS]

  was a routine kind of things in the root [TS]

  Sierra roots here [TS]

  yeah you got legs like guys / the [TS]

  Reavers you got like yellows bands are [TS]

  doing a routine thing [TS]

  mhm like like lone justice you got a [TS]

  lone justice all boys she something she [TS]

  we've talked about we talked about her [TS]

  but I feel I feel like I feel like you [TS]

  there's this is one of those things [TS]

  where you are just a couple years older [TS]

  than me not even just 22 years old [TS]

  maybe I'll i grew up with Star Wars you [TS]

  got that Empire Strikes Back exactly [TS]

  like you were you were listening to this [TS]

  is the fitness gurus is right in this [TS]

  key little keyhole [TS]

  oh yeah the difference right there you [TS]

  would not have been exposed that like I [TS]

  would expect you were one year ahead of [TS]

  me and some stuff like that so like [TS]

  Mitch Easter's band and stuff like that [TS]

  you were whatever I do I love less [TS]

  active you were already digging into [TS]

  let's active at a time when I was like I [TS]

  was in rem fanatic i would do anything [TS]

  that was related to REM i sought out [TS]

  everything that starts with Peter like [TS]

  Peter Buck wearing a blue skidoo' sure I [TS]

  gotta check out his video to like our [TS]

  like michael stipe singing on the these [TS]

  two ladies the the doctor go girl yes [TS]

  yes but I'm and believe me i was all [TS]

  over the indigo girls who were into [TS]

  girls like like some wet cellophane em [TS]

  but I'll daniel damn so that's called [TS]

  John what sort of Rasputin a beard down [TS]

  to his knee [TS]

  the thing about a dental dams it's not [TS]

  going to prevent the spread of STDs [TS]

  place in meatspace it's but if you and [TS]

  your damn i was i was like also still [TS]

  listening to billy squier at this point [TS]

  right I'll know he was well and truly [TS]

  into his silly dance for my stage he was [TS]

  I just watched rock me tonight in the [TS]

  last 10 years [TS]

  yes i have you need to be opera ok I [TS]

  mean have you really watched it because [TS]

  you just came but even in the first 20 [TS]

  you cannot believe this video ever [TS]

  existed [TS]

  it's so much worse than I remember I had [TS]

  I had quite a bit of you mean I billy [TS]

  squier was very problematic for me who [TS]

  because because i really liked those [TS]

  first two records and then it then it [TS]

  started to get really really strange [TS]

  over in the billy squier camp it it did [TS]

  I think that video it's kind of a mean I [TS]

  think that video was hard on him the [TS]

  video the rocky tonight video do red [TS]

  oral histories of that video [TS]

  yeah yeah but also it wasn't just the [TS]

  video like he came out with some kind of [TS]

  strength [TS]

  he he he started appearing with a [TS]

  signature model guitar which was like a [TS]

  pastel colored Schechter it was like it [TS]

  was like a modified Telecaster such as I [TS]

  think the sector some some guitar that [TS]

  also was not very hard to defend her not [TS]

  hire him he's a squire telly 10 [TS]

  different spelling you why did i know [TS]

  why i never thought of that it's [TS]

  brilliant means money on the table free [TS]

  money [TS]

  why the hell didn't make any money on [TS]

  everything I love I love the in the dark [TS]

  Ram the dock don't know but don't pop [TS]

  and mrs. that's a great mystery that's [TS]

  good he's got monster drums on it and [TS]

  was just with some emotions in motion is [TS]

  what we're talking about right emotions [TS]

  emotions is a great great to know rock [TS]

  me tonight came and repeat of that album [TS]

  yeah that's from that Rodney tonight [TS]

  potential tracks well no it's from signs [TS]

  of life signs of life 1984a you're [TS]

  absolutely right [TS]

  whereas emotions in motion from the [TS]

  album emotions in motion that record i [TS]

  think is bulletproof emotions emotions [TS]

  on my girlfriend at the time and first [TS]

  serious partner downstairs there are two [TS]

  people two men that she regarded as the [TS]

  height of sexy and that was Billy Idol [TS]

  and Billy square both in Billy so you [TS]

  know Billy Billy is also some kind of [TS]

  cockney rhyming slang for penis meets [TS]

  yeah when you say Billy Billy Corgan [TS]

  just means penis penis course smartest [TS]

  kid have you seen him lately [TS]

  billy corgan i'll tell you all the time [TS]

  because we're both members of the [TS]

  chemtrail some secret chemical he he had [TS]

  John Mayer and i spent about the desert [TS]

  he's turned into a Bond villain he's so [TS]

  he was always the worst [TS]

  i remember in 1992 a guy from Anchorage [TS]

  came down and was living in the house [TS]

  that I was already crashing in before he [TS]

  showed up he was a guy went to high [TS]

  school [TS]

  he's actually a guy he's in some ways he [TS]

  was one of those like keep your friends [TS]

  close and your enemies closer guys who [TS]

  he was he and I have the exact same [TS]

  birthday [TS]

  his name was David exact same birthday [TS]

  were born on the same day [TS]

  in history same birthdate same birthdate [TS]

  doesn't work that's an important [TS]

  distinction 1968 yes but he was a year [TS]

  younger in school he was a junior when I [TS]

  was a senior and he was very handsome he [TS]

  looks like a young Tom Selleck which I [TS]

  know doesn't sound very good but he had [TS]

  like super dimples and it was cute and [TS]

  he was like he was GQ let me get my old [TS]

  for his grade and made you young for [TS]

  your grade I was very young for [TS]

  migrating very old for his grip and I i [TS]

  read a thing the other day that said [TS]

  that kids born during the summer [TS]

  typically have a typically this is the [TS]

  new metric apparently every I've read [TS]

  this all the time now as a as a way of [TS]

  like tracking kids progress but kids [TS]

  born in the summer are less likely like [TS]

  significantly less likely to become CEOs [TS]

  which is the american standard of [TS]

  achievement no kidding because they're [TS]

  the youngest kid in their grade and so [TS]

  if you're born in july or something then [TS]

  you're much younger than kids that are [TS]

  born in April because if you're born in [TS]

  July your you know you are you're in the [TS]

  class of you know you turned five and [TS]

  then you are intending it like if you're [TS]

  born during the school year [TS]

  what becomes the school year you get [TS]

  their normal birthday parties right but [TS]

  you get a summer birthday and we're [TS]

  gonna do you need a half birthday [TS]

  I mean like that's weird but i was born [TS]

  in September zone and I went into the [TS]

  grade school I went into grade as though [TS]

  I were one of these you know I was four [TS]

  when i started kindergarten so talk [TS]

  about less likely to be a CEO yeah you [TS]

  could not be more disadvantaged than me [TS]

  in this capacity it a kid born two days [TS]

  later would have been held back here [TS]

  I should have been but doesn't give you [TS]

  a great shift to have great to be a fly [TS]

  on it [TS]

  yes i do have grip mhm i'm still not a [TS]

  CEO but it's i'm still a young man [TS]

  yeah anyway David so so I I probably [TS]

  told you this before but I decided when [TS]

  I was a junior [TS]

  but I've never had a girlfriend and I [TS]

  had never i was succeeding in high [TS]

  school in the sense that I was making a [TS]

  name for myself as a as a as a kind of [TS]

  an anti-authoritarian clown the [TS]

  blutarsky move but I was not succeeding [TS]

  in high school on high schools terms and [TS]

  in my junior year at the very beginning [TS]

  of my junior year I said you know what [TS]

  I'm not gonna do this i'm not going to [TS]

  go through high school being a dork i am [TS]

  going to i'm going to do something about [TS]

  it and I remember I had my dad my mom is [TS]

  actually sounds like something my mom [TS]

  and then she bought me one of those desk [TS]

  blotters oh nice looking like the [TS]

  calendar the calendar was a terrific [TS]

  well yeah but I mean talk about it talk [TS]

  about a 10th grader whose pretty much [TS]

  destined to be a dork all through high [TS]

  school and desk blotter sure and I'm [TS]

  sitting at my desk blotter before junior [TS]

  year starts I'm plotting how am I gonna [TS]

  do this [TS]

  how am I gonna how am I going to like [TS]

  overcome because i'm sitting in the back [TS]

  of the class right now I'm covered in [TS]

  dandruff [TS]

  I don't shoot tobacco I've never kissed [TS]

  a girl i'm a year younger than ever in [TS]

  here like the world's saddest nuttin no [TS]

  haggart's left [TS]

  yeah come I'm shaped like like one of [TS]

  those logs of cookie dough and I smell [TS]

  like one of those logs of cookie dough [TS]

  because when are you moving school I eat [TS]

  about a half a log of cookie dough [TS]

  uncooked yeah because it's the greatest [TS]

  thing in history i am just I am like up [TS]

  i am the worst realizing you gotta [TS]

  change your game a little bit yeah I [TS]

  gotta check yourself before you wreck [TS]

  yourself [TS]

  what do i do and i wrote there because [TS]

  my dad was born in nineteen twenty-one [TS]

  and he used a lexicon that even in the [TS]

  evenin [TS]

  evenin [TS]

  early nineteen eighties was no longer [TS]

  being used but I wrote big man on campus [TS]

  right time i see the moc on the top of [TS]

  my desk blotter and I looked at the [TS]

  words i studied the words I was like big [TS]

  man on campus how does one become a big [TS]

  man on campus because my dad would talk [TS]

  about at the at the fraternities in 1938 [TS]

  the big man on campus he he tied up a [TS]

  crew sweater around his neck any swing a [TS]

  tennis racket everywhere he went to me [TS]

  was a member of the crew team and he [TS]

  drove a model a jalopy with a raccoon [TS]

  tail hanging from the from the antenna [TS]

  that right there is a big man on campus [TS]

  it's a big man on campus he would cram a [TS]

  bunch of undergraduates into a phone [TS]

  booth uh-huh like he was he was the guy [TS]

  who was the guy like saddle swallow a [TS]

  goldfish that kind of thing that's right [TS]

  mhm so how do i get to be a big man on [TS]

  campus studying this thing and I was [TS]

  like just studying the words big man on [TS]

  campus [TS]

  I've got to get a girlfriend that's one [TS]

  of the things that you've gotta get a [TS]

  girlfriend and I was like how does one [TS]

  get a girlfriend I have no earthly idea [TS]

  girls terrify me [TS]

  I don't know how to go about doing this [TS]

  I feel like you need to exercise may be [TS]

  in order to get a girlfriend maybe not [TS]

  sure so I went to school in the [TS]

  beginning of my junior year I was like [TS]

  you could tell just by the way people [TS]

  treated me that I was being I was [TS]

  definitely on a track to be excluded and [TS]

  I already preferred to be in the band [TS]

  room at lunch so I was headed their part [TS]

  like my preference was to ally myself [TS]

  with my peers who were people that sat [TS]

  in the band room at lunch and practice [TS]

  the clarinet or sat in the dark room of [TS]

  the student newspaper and like I mean [TS]

  had a friend who was the one of the [TS]

  photographers of the student newspaper [TS]

  who would just take surreptitious [TS]

  photographs of the cheerleaders and then [TS]

  develop them and like I don't know what [TS]

  he would do with the pictures to mean [TS]

  it's not like they were panty upskirt [TS]

  shots everybody sees applying himself [TS]

  yeah he would just sit across the just [TS]

  focus on the gym [TS]

  weirdo but i decided i needed a [TS]

  girlfriend so i started i got just got [TS]

  to school to be getting a junior year [TS]

  and I was like who is going to be my [TS]

  girlfriend who's the lucky girl who [TS]

  who's who is going to like be the one [TS]

  and I picked Kiki for I've talked about [TS]

  her on the show but she's a redhead girl [TS]

  that's right redheaded girl night and [TS]

  she was the class president I chased her [TS]

  I chased her i chased your muscles and [TS]

  then I want her affections and then we [TS]

  were like a couple and she was abused a [TS]

  big wheel and then I was a big wheel [TS]

  I was big man on campus all of a sudden [TS]

  largely because I had because i had [TS]

  coupled with this with this very [TS]

  accomplished lady and when I genuinely [TS]

  loved her I mean she was she was in my [TS]

  thoughts all the time because she kind [TS]

  of your Diane Court a little bit out of [TS]

  your league [TS]

  she was totally out of my league and she [TS]

  said so multiple times you know notes [TS]

  that she would pass me in class that [TS]

  said literally i am out of your league [TS]

  stop harassing you dander covered log [TS]

  and i would say look I know then this is [TS]

  just a code for how much you love and [TS]

  adore here and she would say you are log [TS]

  I'm a very important woman I have [TS]

  important business to attend to [TS]

  which includes getting good grades and [TS]

  being popular and he who are I'm just [TS]

  the fact that passing you these notes is [TS]

  diminishing my stature [TS]

  uh-huh and I was like I love you too [TS]

  baby [TS]

  anyway Kelly Cooper and I broke up [TS]

  during the summer between junior and [TS]

  senior year largely because after we [TS]

  were in a relationship she was like [TS]

  here's what relationships look like and [TS]

  I didn't understand that and still don't [TS]

  I was like what you mean we just spend [TS]

  all our time together just you and me [TS]

  all the time [TS]

  uh-huh she was like that's right that's [TS]

  what that's what boys and girls do when [TS]

  they become an early [TS]

  chip but that's not what you're [TS]

  expecting I was like I thought that what [TS]

  you did was you guys like did went out [TS]

  together and did crimes are so do [TS]

  whatever you like with your leaders of a [TS]

  gang [TS]

  uh-huh like wouldn't you be picky picky [TS]

  just because the good Garrow to my [TS]

  Fonzie yeah [TS]

  pinky and Fonzie didn't just hold up all [TS]

  the time and watch ferris bueller's day [TS]

  off on VHS know they were like hanging [TS]

  with their with their gangs their [TS]

  respective gang adventures your own [TS]

  adventures but you've got your gang has [TS]

  pink satin jackets my gang is apparently [TS]

  Richie and Pazzi which is weird wouldn't [TS]

  find you have like a cool cool gang [TS]

  yes anyway we broke up during the summer [TS]

  the beginning of junior beginning of [TS]

  senior year Kelly starts going out with [TS]

  David David David you're all your [TS]

  frenemy [TS]

  that's right the guy who has the same [TS]

  birthday as me exactly where exactly the [TS]

  same age but he's a year younger that's [TS]

  no accident [TS]

  he's a year younger and he's all [TS]

  fashionable he's like super fashionable [TS]

  he's where he's gotta guess watch the [TS]

  you know he's wearing his red guess [TS]

  clothes and he's got his hair is all [TS]

  perfectly you're selling your own [TS]

  alligator on things [TS]

  I'm someone I'm someone in an extra [TS]

  alligator humping the one alligator like [TS]

  the alligator on the shirt minion extra [TS]

  alligator because I'm living out some [TS]

  movies that I've been writing as i go [TS]

  and i was so appalled i was so I was [TS]

  appalled [TS]

  that's what it was I was like why are [TS]

  you wire is kelly why are you debasing [TS]

  yourself by going out with this child [TS]

  who's the same age as me she was like I [TS]

  don't know he's really handsome [TS]

  so David years later moved into the same [TS]

  house i was living in down here in [TS]

  Seattle [TS]

  I wasn't paying rent i was sleeping on [TS]

  the couch her he moved in and actually [TS]

  started paying rent took one of the [TS]

  rooms all that's not fair that's not [TS]

  cricket both know so now his status in [TS]

  this house in this grunge house is [TS]

  higher than mine like you know what I [TS]

  mean like if you rip your rent pay [TS]

  absolutely you get you get you to have [TS]

  preferences sure you get a shelf in the [TS]

  cupboard that's for your canned food the [TS]

  couch boys catch by with the [TS]

  you-know-what like the kid is a log he [TS]

  didn't get that I'm the long again [TS]

  you're the dancer lawyer yeah I'm the [TS]

  log and I'm and I'm and I'm stealing a [TS]

  cancer ravioli out of the out of the [TS]

  kitchen that don't even belong to me [TS]

  because I could because not because I [TS]

  can't [TS]

  well I couldn't afford a can regulate my [TS]

  own but if I could I would have even had [TS]

  a shelf right haha so many levels it's [TS]

  very confusing sure it's and so did she [TS]

  come around [TS]

  who oh sorry Kelly get back together [TS]

  didn't you [TS]

  not really well no she's like a doctor [TS]

  now right yeah I was you know [TS]

  oh we talked about this one time and [TS]

  then some kid chastise me on the [TS]

  internet because I said where she worked [TS]

  three times or something like that [TS]

  yeah but a but so now now i can barely I [TS]

  can barely bring myself to under her [TS]

  name but no she was what she was she [TS]

  ended up she got her revenge on me got [TS]

  her revenge on me for sure [TS]

  not just but for dating David but you [TS]

  know like other things she would [TS]

  yeah she came to visit me in college [TS]

  yeah one time came to visit me at my [TS]

  weird northwestern Catholic school and [TS]

  she sort of trips and you know I took a [TS]

  year off before I went to college so I [TS]

  was now a great under her i was a [TS]

  freshman and she was a sophomore at a [TS]

  big-time he's Coast University and she [TS]

  came to my college and waltz around the [TS]

  dorm like looking basically looking [TS]

  indoors like what what do you what are [TS]

  you kids doing here just like a why are [TS]

  you doing this to me but you don't call [TS]

  her Bluff on it cuz i kinda wanna see [TS]

  what's your what's your game here Kelly [TS]

  what's your game i did not have the [TS]

  ability to call girls on their game [TS]

  until just recently [TS]

  oh really i was super interesting i was [TS]

  4100 before i could say hey what's your [TS]

  game here general purpose of just find [TS]

  yourself calling someone on their game [TS]

  no no I well oh you're saying that you [TS]

  make a study of it saying I'm gonna go [TS]

  call this girl in the game [TS]

  I've been studying it for 26 years and I [TS]

  think maybe I look maybe it at age 41 I [TS]

  had a new desk blotter and i had written [TS]

  at the top of it some other acronym and [TS]

  I was like you know what you're never [TS]

  gonna you're not gonna make it in this [TS]

  life if you keep playing [TS]

  it's not you know like boys can't play [TS]

  games on me it's just girls that are [TS]

  playing games on me and I keep taking [TS]

  them at their word you keep giving him [TS]

  the keys keys dear to your mind box [TS]

  I'm like okay is this is that the or her [TS]

  purple yeah yeah [TS]

  and so I finally was like wait a minute [TS]

  what's your game manager came and it was [TS]

  very effective because you never done it [TS]

  before but I've never done before and I [TS]

  don't realize on doing it or but all the [TS]

  sudden John is how to call somebody in a [TS]

  game it's like you got a third I know my [TS]

  friend now you don't even need to know [TS]

  what their games you just you just say [TS]

  what's your game and then they feel like [TS]

  a whole different skill that's a whole [TS]

  different later skill at least knowing [TS]

  there's a game there it's like you're [TS]

  there was no you're gaslighting me right [TS]

  and they're like the jig is up [TS]

  I don't know what you're doing but I [TS]

  know you're doing something doing so I [TS]

  don't know what you're doing but I know [TS]

  you're doing something [TS]

  whoo-hoo and all of a sudden it all [TS]

  turned around or not all know it but you [TS]

  know so some so no I was not capable of [TS]

  calling Kelly on her game and she game [TS]

  to the shit out of me a because she was [TS]

  your older than me [TS]

  b-because well no she would she would [TS]

  say she wasn't year-old it's like a kid [TS]

  with a magnifying glass and some ants [TS]

  the EU know the kid does not have a good [TS]

  reason for sizzling the and he's doing [TS]

  because he can I think I think Kelly was [TS]

  doing because she could not think he's a [TS]

  bad person just by a great doctor but [TS]

  the fact that she's doing that casinos [TS]

  you you got your little dinosaur are you [TS]

  trying to fight back with you got no [TS]

  chance against Kelly I feel like all I [TS]

  feel like this is true of all human yeah [TS]

  in a deal doesn't really know like [TS]

  destroy all humanoids at one level to [TS]

  another level i love all people you do [TS]

  and this is very challenging for people [TS]

  sometimes to understand that I all [TS]

  humans John you love humans i love all [TS]

  humans and I want to destroy all humans [TS]

  and now i don't see I don't think it's [TS]

  necessarily incompatible I don't see how [TS]

  that's incompatible it's like just like [TS]

  McNamara says right sometimes you have [TS]

  to destroy humanity to save it [TS]

  that's exactly that's exactly right I i [TS]

  love human so much and I believe in [TS]

  humans but i believe that they should be [TS]

  destroyed at all costs because the [TS]

  plague [TS]

  mhm and their plague on to one another [TS]

  first 01 worst kind of plague a plague [TS]

  that gives its own plague to a plague [TS]

  that's right that's terrible you got [TS]

  terraform that shit you got the guy a [TS]

  bomb it's a plague that reproduces by [TS]

  plugging itself it makes place by makes [TS]

  plagues with plagues through plagues by [TS]

  plagued by proxy em right so it keeps [TS]

  injecting this it keeps injecting the [TS]

  poop into itself [TS]

  yeah yeah sure yeah that's that's the [TS]

  kind of evolution [TS]

  so what I want to do is basically what [TS]

  if it rained for like 40 days [TS]

  okay we're at night to rain tonight rain [TS]

  all day and all night ok so 40 days and [TS]

  40 nights [TS]

  ok let's call it that ok rain that [TS]

  entire time just rained can't get my [TS]

  picture and I'm talking about a ranger [TS]

  about like a lot of range lot of rain [TS]

  and everywhere right now we're talking [TS]

  about the entire earth forty days and [TS]

  forty nights rain [TS]

  ok ok it's raining in Antarctica it's [TS]

  raining in the Gobi Desert its raining [TS]

  its so first there's lots of those lots [TS]

  of articles in the local paper about [TS]

  this is good we've been having a drought [TS]

  that's right it's nice that it's been [TS]

  raining for eight days and eight nights [TS]

  eight whole days imagine what would [TS]

  happen in los angeles california that [TS]

  reigned for eight straight days the [TS]

  entire city with skid I don't know if [TS]

  you've been daily recently who now say [TS]

  once they're desperate for rain you have [TS]

  any like people saying they want wisdom [TS]

  they don't really want wisdom they just [TS]

  want to be smart but you're talking [TS]

  about a conflagration here you're [TS]

  talking about a a disruptive see the [TS]

  thing is now you got your sewers are [TS]

  year roads you're going to spell all the [TS]

  oils you're gonna stock up all the golf [TS]

  courses like anywhere for that water to [TS]

  go and just going to accumulate the LA [TS]

  River is going to overflow its banks LA [TS]

  River is going to make that [TS]

  that's so but that was just raining in [TS]

  LA and military yourselves over an [TS]

  entire earth the earth it's raining on [TS]

  earth for 40 days now right away and at [TS]

  night ooo and at night there's no let up [TS]

  know it doesn't let up right away the [TS]

  the the weather channel is going to note [TS]

  this right because normally it if it's [TS]

  raining one place not raining another [TS]

  house to CNN starts having a countdown [TS]

  clock like you want to eat longest it's [TS]

  ever reigned tick-tock tick-tock except [TS]

  there except like moment 12 minutes into [TS]

  this phenomenon [TS]

  somebody's going to go on the weather [TS]

  channel go uh every upside to break in [TS]

  place by literally raining everywhere [TS]

  it's literally raining every time [TS]

  there's actually a 100-percent percent [TS]

  chance of rain because it's literally [TS]

  raining everywhere and this is [TS]

  meteorological e impossible [TS]

  so where where we're going to the [TS]

  computers right now and we'll get back [TS]

  to you in a minute right Peter Jennings [TS]

  is like wait a minute [TS]

  yeah stop the presses still how easy he [TS]

  might be dead but I remember Peter [TS]

  Jennings during 911 I'd like to see [TS]

  Peter Jennings doing doing 40 days of [TS]

  rain coverage see it's like a reverse [TS]

  Ted Koppel did you watch him during the [TS]

  during the 911 [TS]

  I i lucked upon him i chanced upon him [TS]

  as I was switching through the channels [TS]

  and he did he was the greatest American [TS]

  even though he's a Canadian yeah he was [TS]

  the greatest American all Americans now [TS]

  he was straight he's very calm very [TS]

  centered very solemn but he wasn't being [TS]

  overly dramatic and he was not full of [TS]

  shit like everybody else was and at a [TS]

  certain point i don't know if you [TS]

  remember this and I wish that I I've [TS]

  never good talking on the day on the day [TS]

  on the day when I felt like by 10 that [TS]

  morning our time it felt like literally [TS]

  anything could happen [TS]

  yeah and it didn't also was like will [TS]

  somebody take charge of the situation [TS]

  there's no way I mean I mean I just have [TS]

  that I remember that feeling my wife [TS]

  while i was working at home in those [TS]

  days and my boss called unlike now I [TS]

  have an office [TS]

  right quote unquote work but that was 7 [TS]

  something the morning you wake up you [TS]

  got your watch like a holy shit this [TS]

  doesn't look like an accident and then [TS]

  you here like this stuff going on in [TS]

  Pennsylvania etc and then when the other [TS]

  plane hit the tower you're like okay [TS]

  literally anything could happen right [TS]

  now you cannot make a plausible movie of [TS]

  this there's no way that this could [TS]

  actually be happening so i slept til ten [TS]

  o'clock in the morning that morning yeah [TS]

  and then I woke up to my mom sitting on [TS]

  my bed which never happened oh my god [TS]

  with her hand on my knee which never [TS]

  happened and I was like what is going on [TS]

  if you get your dad no worse sigh who [TS]

  knows what would present what would [TS]

  prompt my mom to wake me up and she said [TS]

  I said she's an infection by sitting on [TS]

  my bed be and touching my knee see all [TS]

  right what is time pretty familiar [TS]

  she said I have bad news man shit she [TS]

  was like somebody flew two planes into [TS]

  the World Trade Center and blew them up [TS]

  and was like I had just returned from [TS]

  New York right I'd been at the top of [TS]

  the world trade center on august 30th [TS]

  i've been i've been in seattle for a [TS]

  week [TS]

  remember that elevator your ears to pop [TS]

  on the LA right so yeah it was a [TS]

  fast-moving elevator for them but it [TS]

  took minutes when i was there letter 89 [TS]

  it's just it's like there's no way this [TS]

  elevator i could be this loan is very [TS]

  tall built [TS]

  yeah so she turns on the TV and there's [TS]

  one tower on the TV smoking and one [TS]

  tower standing and I was like what are [TS]

  you talking about mom that's that's one [TS]

  plane and she said no I've seen this [TS]

  footage over and over by now just watch [TS]

  and then because they're replaying over [TS]

  and over and over again so it was so she [TS]

  like she had already taken the sting she [TS]

  already somewhat like spoiler alert of [TS]

  me before I actually saw it so I didn't [TS]

  see it in real time I i got the I got [TS]

  the CliffsNotes and then I was right but [TS]

  Peter Jennings at one point said as he [TS]

  was reporting that President Bush and [TS]

  his entourage [TS]

  were mysteriously just flying in circles [TS]

  around America I don't know if you [TS]

  remember I do [TS]

  he just got everything that the thing [TS]

  that I'm going to beat this to death but [TS]

  the thing that you can overstate is that [TS]

  when the first one happened you're like [TS]

  this is the craziest news of the last 20 [TS]

  years or whatever you did a plane [TS]

  because of first you're going there's no [TS]

  way that's what happened [TS]

  there's no way that eighth plane because [TS]

  the things you need to know a lot about [TS]

  aeronautics in aviation it's pretty hard [TS]

  to hit a building with a plane there for [TS]

  them it's pretty well the first one even [TS]

  the first one that's happening you're [TS]

  like and the reports are coming up and [TS]

  we're not sure where dick cheney is all [TS]

  this stuff going on and and even in that [TS]

  is that period and then the other one [TS]

  hit [TS]

  is that the one that like with a blue [TS]

  the hole through yeah and you're just [TS]

  like wait a minute there's gotta be a [TS]

  mistake [TS]

  that's got to be an error there's no way [TS]

  that happened twice [TS]

  yeah and now course you can always used [TS]

  to think about it ruminate on people as [TS]

  it was happening [TS]

  it felt like the most demanding you [TS]

  start hearing reports of other things [TS]

  happening and you're like a night [TS]

  remember very distinctly by noon that [TS]

  day thinking fucking anything could [TS]

  happen today if we found out those is [TS]

  that this was like I mean I'm not trying [TS]

  to sound glib but like we found out [TS]

  there was some kind of like bizarre [TS]

  virus or alien invasion at this point i [TS]

  would not be that surprised or if you [TS]

  turn on the TV and you're like Houston [TS]

  was just destroyed it in a nuclear [TS]

  explosion [TS]

  every time I saw playing for two or [TS]

  three weeks cuz then there's the thing [TS]

  all now the golden gate bridge is gonna [TS]

  be next time getting course they all [TS]

  look like bombs didn't everything all [TS]

  use I would hear a plane and I would [TS]

  have to look out there and I wasn't even [TS]

  traumatized by this in the way that you [TS]

  know me and my friends in other places [TS]

  where I didn't have the personal [TS]

  experience of this but I just do for a [TS]

  few weeks you're like who fucking knows [TS]

  what's gonna happen yeah they look like [TS]

  Peter sorry Peter Jennings so a one [TS]

  point in the in the late afternoon he [TS]

  gets visibly frustrated on air and says [TS]

  when will the president make a statement [TS]

  or in some way take charge of the [TS]

  situation because the president needs to [TS]

  appear now it isn't was in hiding not [TS]

  having but you know it's been hours are [TS]

  cutting hours and the Vice President is [TS]

  in an undisclosed location but the [TS]

  president is just flying around in the [TS]

  sky and making no public statement and [TS]

  he was like it was shocking how [TS]

  how visibly frustrated he was and how [TS]

  much he was speaking the truth from in [TS]

  his own voice on the air and it and it [TS]

  was it was the moment that I realized [TS]

  that George W Bush was a chicken shit [TS]

  and that everything he did subsequent to [TS]

  that moment was a chickenshit move like [TS]

  I lost through Peter Jennings eyes I [TS]

  realized that george bush was was a [TS]

  chicken shit and he should never have [TS]

  been elected president he should never [TS]

  have survived his teen years and I still [TS]

  have a space for him down the vote i [TS]

  still have I still have a bed when you [TS]

  walk by sometimes little room number six [TS]

  and think I'm still only boy three [TS]

  squares in a chair veto because we're [TS]

  gonna find out the depth of his chicken [TS]

  shitted who but that that way your best [TS]

  buddy your bed starts drinking buddy [TS]

  welfare [TS]

  what does know the dimensions of your [TS]

  room start being a little bit more week [TS]

  our now.com you did you know that i own [TS]

  an undisclosed location com no shh [TS]