Roderick on the Line

Ep. 193: "Oklahoma the Sex Cat"


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00:00:29   hello hi John hi Merlin has gone good [TS]

00:00:35   after settings [TS]

00:00:37   um my settings are good now now that [TS]

00:00:40   I've going in and fix them all there was [TS]

00:00:44   no reason that they should have changed [TS]

00:00:45   huh [TS]

00:00:46   but of course that's no explanation [TS]

00:00:50   I mean that's it's not it's not that [TS]

00:00:51   they shouldn't have changed its that the [TS]

00:00:53   computer decided and I think it has more [TS]

00:00:56   information than i do probably it's [TS]

00:00:59   drawing from a lot of sources in [TS]

00:01:00   real-time em it's showing you things you [TS]

00:01:03   didn't know you needed [TS]

00:01:04   yeah so it determined that everything [TS]

00:01:06   needed to be reset and I need to login [TS]

00:01:08   again using my secret password login and [TS]

00:01:13   wanted me to login to the whole computer [TS]

00:01:15   just like just everything it just wants [TS]

00:01:17   me to log into everything all the time [TS]

00:01:19   you might be might have been hacked [TS]

00:01:20   how do you know what twenty-five percent [TS]

00:01:22   of what i do is login m and this morning [TS]

00:01:25   I'm checking my emails and I realized [TS]

00:01:29   that in a very short amount of time how [TS]

00:01:30   long have we had emails how long have [TS]

00:01:31   you been getting emails i'm getting [TS]

00:01:34   emails for 23 years 13 years okay I've [TS]

00:01:38   been getting emails for at least six [TS]

00:01:40   that I can call let's call it 16 even [TS]

00:01:43   answering them for to get well you know [TS]

00:01:46   you want to put yourself out there too [TS]

00:01:47   much i'll explain why you no answer and [TS]

00:01:49   the near information in the clothes but [TS]

00:01:52   a but uh yeah I i was checking my email [TS]

00:01:56   this morning and I realize now I have [TS]

00:01:58   the exact same relationship to email [TS]

00:02:00   that i have two real mail right I'm [TS]

00:02:03   sitting there in my it but I'm sitting [TS]

00:02:05   in my virtual front yard and I'm [TS]

00:02:08   virtually sorting through a bunch of [TS]

00:02:12   flyers for grocery stores [TS]

00:02:15   uh-huh and stuff from the like six [TS]

00:02:19   colleges that mistakenly think I want to [TS]

00:02:21   go get a degree and in IT and some you [TS]

00:02:27   know it's just like I'm i throw ninety [TS]

00:02:30   percent of the email i get immediately [TS]

00:02:33   in the garbage and that is after [TS]

00:02:35   spending probably ten thousand man hours [TS]

00:02:38   meticulously adjusting my spam filters [TS]

00:02:42   and sending oh my god Merlin I'm sure [TS]

00:02:45   you gonna roll your eyes at me but I [TS]

00:02:47   send unsubscribes everytime everytime [TS]

00:02:51   the University of San Francisco decides [TS]

00:02:53   that I'm an alum again are you jasmine [TS]

00:02:56   rice and then your underwear the Gonzaga [TS]

00:02:58   list [TS]

00:02:58   no it's not that it's not your chance in [TS]

00:03:00   san francisco at the University of [TS]

00:03:02   California San Francisco it's one of the [TS]

00:03:04   universities in San Francisco sure [TS]

00:03:06   decided eight years ago that i had gone [TS]

00:03:10   there and they cannot be put off the [TS]

00:03:13   scent [TS]

00:03:14   oh and I and so I spend all this time on [TS]

00:03:16   subscribe and subscribe and subscribe [TS]

00:03:18   please unsubscribe me to the thing that [TS]

00:03:20   I didn't subscribe 2 i've done all that [TS]

00:03:22   and still a t28 ninety percent of the [TS]

00:03:25   emails I get I just throw him be virtual [TS]

00:03:28   recycling bin without even going into [TS]

00:03:31   the pit through the gate into my house I [TS]

00:03:32   just stand by the mailbox [TS]

00:03:34   that's like wow the new technology has [TS]

00:03:36   really it's only taken at 23 years to [TS]

00:03:39   become completely obsolete technology [TS]

00:03:43   yeah email in a minute how many emails [TS]

00:03:47   to you answer every day you don't want [TS]

00:03:53   to know [TS]

00:03:54   313 you know wanted out 0 300 between [TS]

00:04:00   three and three hundred i just i just [TS]

00:04:01   want to clarify I i look at my email [TS]

00:04:04   yeah you know oh that's right now this [TS]

00:04:06   is a different thing we're gonna know [TS]

00:04:08   you know okay and I'm not trying to be a [TS]

00:04:10   Productivity guy I'm just telling you [TS]

00:04:11   what a terrible person I am I a lot of [TS]

00:04:15   days I answer less than one email a day [TS]

00:04:17   yes yes yeah that and your productivity [TS]

00:04:21   through the roof [TS]

00:04:22   I so many thoughts about this i really [TS]

00:04:25   need my productivity go through the roof [TS]

00:04:28   i was getting ready for for the day [TS]

00:04:30   getting ready for the things they needed [TS]

00:04:33   to do and thinking about the things i [TS]

00:04:34   need to do today [TS]

00:04:35   now what do you need on a day when you [TS]

00:04:37   and I are recording yeah okay isn't it [TS]

00:04:41   isn't the the recording of this podcast [TS]

00:04:43   sort of such a bright Sun you can't even [TS]

00:04:47   see the other stars only four out of [TS]

00:04:49   five of them yeah but there's that one [TS]

00:04:51   there's Venus or what [TS]

00:04:52   whether you can see what you can put out [TS]

00:04:54   there's the ones that you know [TS]

00:04:55   no we don't actually put out almost all [TS]

00:04:57   of them now haven't we haven't we [TS]

00:04:58   haven't not point out pulling out a long [TS]

00:05:00   time [TS]

00:05:01   remember remember the remember when it [TS]

00:05:03   seemed like every other one we were [TS]

00:05:04   putting out [TS]

00:05:05   yeah when you get a minute 80 and you [TS]

00:05:07   start going on now now now consigned [TS]

00:05:10   some special happens a minute Katy [TS]

00:05:12   that's where somewhere in your mind you [TS]

00:05:15   I assume have some unconscious gate [TS]

00:05:19   gateway where you're like I can start [TS]

00:05:21   whining this down or I can triple down [TS]

00:05:23   and get it [TS]

00:05:26   well ok if this is a moment is you are [TS]

00:05:31   saying you're in every tone in your [TS]

00:05:32   voice you just saying no no no no what [TS]

00:05:36   just winded up were admitted 80 this is [TS]

00:05:38   already good episode [TS]

00:05:39   yeah it's not just that's good point [TS]

00:05:41   John you Tommy kind of El any kind of [TS]

00:05:44   Bel carry some funny somebody I can not [TS]

00:05:47   that I ever tell you about Hitler's sex [TS]

00:05:49   dungeons and you're like who don't know [TS]

00:05:52   I i would love to hear about that here's [TS]

00:05:56   how my day goes i've been i've been [TS]

00:05:59   working on sleep again and so I've been [TS]

00:06:00   kind of a bad dad rice sleep in later [TS]

00:06:02   than ash in the mornings and my wife [TS]

00:06:04   ends up doing a lot of heavy lifting in [TS]

00:06:06   the morning and i'm trying to work on [TS]

00:06:07   that so I'm trying to adjust going to [TS]

00:06:09   bed earlier which is difficult because [TS]

00:06:11   as I've said numerous places including [TS]

00:06:14   here I falling back into a pattern of [TS]

00:06:16   really enjoying the time after my kid [TS]

00:06:19   goes to bed working like watch movies [TS]

00:06:21   and I'm very selfishly watching movies [TS]

00:06:24   and TV shows and if I don't keep an eye [TS]

00:06:26   on that I will do that very easily until [TS]

00:06:29   1am who I'm trying to get to where like [TS]

00:06:33   I want to go to bed before midnight [TS]

00:06:35   ideally 1030 long story short got up [TS]

00:06:38   today I select my way through the [TS]

00:06:40   morning with the family I didn't really [TS]

00:06:41   do anything of consequence so I gotta [TS]

00:06:43   get ready for the day [TS]

00:06:44   what do I have to do is record to [TS]

00:06:46   podcast today well it's your other [TS]

00:06:48   podcast you don't care i got to do [TS]

00:06:50   podcast that record today and I have to [TS]

00:06:53   get the sponsors ready for our show [TS]

00:06:55   I have to do the research for that I [TS]

00:06:57   have to do the sponsor reads for another [TS]

00:06:58   program the third program that i do five [TS]

00:07:00   and I thought nothing nothing difficult [TS]

00:07:03   but it's all stuff that has to be done [TS]

00:07:05   it's like that [TS]

00:07:06   mission program lost we think about if [TS]

00:07:08   you watch that programme but but there's [TS]

00:07:11   a point out when the shows still made [TS]

00:07:13   him a modicum of sense where there's a [TS]

00:07:15   guy who sits in an underground cavern in [TS]

00:07:19   like an underground like you know layer [TS]

00:07:20   and every few minutes he has to type a [TS]

00:07:23   sequence of numbers into a computer who [TS]

00:07:26   and and for a while we know is boy he's [TS]

00:07:29   really got to get those numbers punched [TS]

00:07:31   and there's gonna be problems and then [TS]

00:07:33   and then my my understanding is it all [TS]

00:07:35   turned out to just be that every episode [TS]

00:07:37   was totally just had no connective [TS]

00:07:39   tissue really really complicated [TS]

00:07:41   no not now let me ask you r which is [TS]

00:07:44   what this is that this is this is an [TS]

00:07:48   argument that Shawn Nelson I used to [TS]

00:07:49   have a lot we would go to the meeting [TS]

00:07:51   you and Shawn would argue sometimes we [TS]

00:07:52   used to have arguments will let us agree [TS]

00:07:54   mental gentleman's disagreements but we [TS]

00:07:56   never took it all the way to having a [TS]

00:07:58   podcast which is what you should do when [TS]

00:07:59   you have disagreements with somebody but [TS]

00:08:02   we would go to see the movies and you [TS]

00:08:03   know Sean was a cinephile and and [TS]

00:08:06   studied movies or whatever and I we [TS]

00:08:07   would go see a film and I would come out [TS]

00:08:09   of the film and said that movie had no [TS]

00:08:11   redeeming qualities it was garbage movie [TS]

00:08:14   would be sigh he would sigh and he would [TS]

00:08:17   say and then we'd start arguing and he [TS]

00:08:19   would say no no it was a great movie and [TS]

00:08:21   I would say it not only can you not [TS]

00:08:23   defend the statement it's a great movie [TS]

00:08:26   you can't even defend my assertion that [TS]

00:08:29   movie should be burned in the public [TS]

00:08:30   square [TS]

00:08:31   yeah and he would say this is what he [TS]

00:08:33   would say what about that one tracking [TS]

00:08:35   shot all that's that we're one long view [TS]

00:08:40   they took in the whole army marching [TS]

00:08:43   through the valley and then it spanned [TS]

00:08:45   over here and then it's settled on an [TS]

00:08:48   eagle in its Airy and then there were [TS]

00:08:51   some clouds in a rainbow would be like [TS]

00:08:53   seriously you're going to defend this [TS]

00:08:54   movie based on some the technicality of [TS]

00:08:57   one long tracking shot huh [TS]

00:08:59   but he was seeing the trees for the [TS]

00:09:02   forest or whatever you know he didn't [TS]

00:09:04   matter to him that the plot was garbage [TS]

00:09:06   the dialogue was garbage them the acting [TS]

00:09:09   was garbage they had this tracking shot [TS]

00:09:12   he was seeing all these other elements [TS]

00:09:14   that he was appreciated almost like he's [TS]

00:09:16   watching a different movie in some ways [TS]

00:09:17   he's very much watching a different [TS]

00:09:19   movie because it because I mean it's not [TS]

00:09:22   that he doesn't also know that dialogue [TS]

00:09:25   matters and script matters or whatever [TS]

00:09:26   but he decides at a certain point in the [TS]

00:09:28   film but that's not what he's looking [TS]

00:09:30   for anymore or that this movie stands [TS]

00:09:34   this is valid enough movie on some [TS]

00:09:37   technical basis that that it that it's [TS]

00:09:42   in the category of like good movies and [TS]

00:09:45   I've had a lot of people say about lost [TS]

00:09:48   to me even now knowing that it's [TS]

00:09:51   gibberish [TS]

00:09:53   they still recommend that i watch it [TS]

00:09:55   because it's such a fun watch yeah and [TS]

00:09:59   I'm and I pull my hair out [TS]

00:10:02   look I I almost shouted at them it's [TS]

00:10:04   it's a very different way of thinking [TS]

00:10:06   about at least media and possibly the [TS]

00:10:09   world [TS]

00:10:09   yeah I feel like it is a worldview [TS]

00:10:11   because I you know my feeling is like [TS]

00:10:13   life is short enough huh [TS]

00:10:16   if you are only queuing up to watch.just [TS]

00:10:19   the things that everyone agrees are [TS]

00:10:21   brilliant [TS]

00:10:22   why would you subject yourself to hours [TS]

00:10:25   upon hours of watching a thing that has [TS]

00:10:27   no that makes no sense that has no point [TS]

00:10:30   other than that some people had a lot of [TS]

00:10:34   money and didn't think a thing through [TS]

00:10:37   and that you know and so that it feels [TS]

00:10:39   like a it feels like a worldview [TS]

00:10:41   difference where maybe I don't [TS]

00:10:44   understand but but the idea i mean if [TS]

00:10:48   someone put someone put me in a room [TS]

00:10:50   that just had blanket was one of those [TS]

00:10:51   one of those silent rooms that makes you [TS]

00:10:54   insane [TS]

00:10:55   uh-huh you're familiar with this right [TS]

00:10:56   yeah absolutely it's one of the things [TS]

00:10:58   that sounds like it would be relaxing [TS]

00:10:59   but it's actually a cause of insanity [TS]

00:11:01   right there by your brain it's like [TS]

00:11:03   people like like a heart freaking out in [TS]

00:11:06   the relaxation body relaxation but it's [TS]

00:11:08   not a bottle it was in a box it was not [TS]

00:11:10   put up right yeah I've been in this it's [TS]

00:11:13   pretty weird seems to me like one of [TS]

00:11:15   those isolation Tubbs is that takes like [TS]

00:11:17   six out of seven boxes for me it's [TS]

00:11:20   little it's dark it's wet it's a lot of [TS]

00:11:23   things you don't like I don't like [TS]

00:11:25   little you don't mind being wet if it's [TS]

00:11:27   an open tub in fact that something to [TS]

00:11:28   look forward to and possibly bring a [TS]

00:11:29   sandwich in a desk and you know I don't [TS]

00:11:31   mind it being dark [TS]

00:11:32   but anyway uh I don't want to be in dark [TS]

00:11:35   even if you can't really exactly like [TS]

00:11:37   control the dark [TS]

00:11:38   no I want to the Lockean problem i think [TS]

00:11:41   when you when you know you can change [TS]

00:11:42   the dark I think it makes the dark worse [TS]

00:11:44   yeah i know i want to be able to i want [TS]

00:11:46   to be able to banish the dark [TS]

00:11:47   yeah and let in the light went on my [TS]

00:11:49   terms but but yeah all by way of saying [TS]

00:11:54   that that if it feels to me like if I [TS]

00:11:57   was in an isolation cube and I was going [TS]

00:12:00   crazy from lack of stimulus and someone [TS]

00:12:04   said here's some relief [TS]

00:12:06   you should like a buffalo to be sure to [TS]

00:12:07   watch buffy the vampire slayer now I you [TS]

00:12:09   know people in my circle time on my [TS]

00:12:14   inner circle [TS]

00:12:15   okay uh are proponents loud proponents [TS]

00:12:20   of buffy the vampire slayer' and it is [TS]

00:12:22   this is a world view all of the [TS]

00:12:24   spin-offs that o.o the spin-offs the one [TS]

00:12:27   of the vampire guy and the one of the [TS]

00:12:29   other vampire guy i mean i don't know [TS]

00:12:30   anything about it but i guess they all [TS]

00:12:32   have been empires in them it's right in [TS]

00:12:34   the title [TS]

00:12:34   yeah so you're saying that buffy the [TS]

00:12:36   vampire slayer is also a worldview not [TS]

00:12:40   sure this has to do with my morning but [TS]

00:12:42   I carry around a certain amount of [TS]

00:12:45   background baseline guilt that a lot of [TS]

00:12:49   my friends you know it is so there's [TS]

00:12:52   also the thing with age where like if [TS]

00:12:54   you missed your window for something [TS]

00:12:55   you're gonna have to go back and like [TS]

00:12:56   mop up like it's hard to tell an 80 year [TS]

00:12:58   old man you listen yellow like even [TS]

00:13:00   though LOL is it is an unimpeachable [TS]

00:13:02   great band with a dozen terrific classic [TS]

00:13:05   rock songs [TS]

00:13:06   yes that's he missed his yellow window [TS]

00:13:08   how did you feel about uh about Dukes of [TS]

00:13:11   Hazzard I was a massive fan I dressed I [TS]

00:13:14   just like Bo due to the extent of my [TS]

00:13:16   budget would allow really yeah i adopted [TS]

00:13:19   a certain yeah i did I dress like boat I [TS]

00:13:22   feel like I dressed like it was really [TS]

00:13:24   super gay [TS]

00:13:25   I looked I looked really stupid I was [TS]

00:13:26   always a fat kid wearing a turtleneck [TS]

00:13:28   with a plan sure it look I look like I [TS]

00:13:31   was producing something off off-broadway [TS]

00:13:33   the the statement I looked like Bo Duke [TS]

00:13:37   to the extent that my budget would allow [TS]

00:13:39   yes that that line actually would fit [TS]

00:13:42   into the Waylon Jennings [TS]

00:13:44   has all right you're right it was a [TS]

00:13:49   person because we're as good as it did [TS]

00:13:52   allowed would allow yeah you can turn on [TS]

00:13:56   Nick the donor milk Merrill Draper Phil [TS]

00:13:59   saying on [TS]

00:14:00   did I ever tell you that I was in a bar [TS]

00:14:02   in Belgium one time a country bar and [TS]

00:14:04   like the band was playing and they [TS]

00:14:06   played the dukes of hazzard the ballad [TS]

00:14:08   of the Dukes of Hazzard yeah and I went [TS]

00:14:10   up after the show nose like that was [TS]

00:14:11   great you guys did a great job of the [TS]

00:14:13   Dukes of Hazzard theme and numb spoke [TS]

00:14:16   English they just they were just saying [TS]

00:14:17   it phonetically like Abba yeah like Abba [TS]

00:14:20   so your morning [TS]

00:14:23   oh no it's okay i'll get back to it I [TS]

00:14:25   want you back to Desmond um so yeah that [TS]

00:14:28   really matter [TS]

00:14:29   ok but here's here's part of problem i [TS]

00:14:31   think what you're saying let's try to [TS]

00:14:31   pop the stack here we're talking about [TS]

00:14:33   something that says it's very difficult [TS]

00:14:34   and it's something i have actually [TS]

00:14:36   discussed at length in other places [TS]

00:14:38   which most people haven't heard because [TS]

00:14:39   nobody can listen to all the media [TS]

00:14:40   there's too much media so part of the [TS]

00:14:42   media problem is that you end up having [TS]

00:14:45   to find rabbis and sherpa don't know the [TS]

00:14:48   plural of Sherpas repay you gotta find [TS]

00:14:51   Sharpay who are able to guide you with [TS]

00:14:53   taste and interest and to give you see I [TS]

00:14:56   i personally I increasingly find it not [TS]

00:14:58   that helpful when someone says something [TS]

00:15:01   like and I'm just picking this randomly [TS]

00:15:03   oh my god you should totally watch how [TS]

00:15:06   to get away with murder and then i say [TS]

00:15:08   what i say what is that the seventy [TS]

00:15:10   percent of the conversations I have in [TS]

00:15:11   the world or any other shonda rhimes [TS]

00:15:14   properties none of which i have ever [TS]

00:15:15   seen because i don't watch that kind of [TS]

00:15:18   television but no no don't i'm not [TS]

00:15:19   racist i just mean I don't watch network [TS]

00:15:21   television as a thing I don't have [TS]

00:15:23   appointment viewing I don't have cable [TS]

00:15:24   so like any way that that's again that's [TS]

00:15:27   part of my yellow window like I missed [TS]

00:15:29   that window and watch making a murderer [TS]

00:15:32   making a murderer [TS]

00:15:34   oh yeah I i watched all with the last [TS]

00:15:37   episode we got all the way to the last [TS]

00:15:39   episode like I couldn't it was I [TS]

00:15:40   couldn't do it [TS]

00:15:41   yeah it made me genuinely very very sad [TS]

00:15:45   to watch that show em and i know i [TS]

00:15:47   understand like a lot of it was probably [TS]

00:15:48   a little bit doctored but it was it's [TS]

00:15:51   one of those things where like against [TS]

00:15:52   kind of people will point out you know [TS]

00:15:54   black people known this for years that [TS]

00:15:56   maybe the justice system doesn't work [TS]

00:15:57   so much like a Swiss clock so much like [TS]

00:15:59   Swiss cheese write that down [TS]

00:16:01   it's pretty good huh are this episode of [TS]

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00:18:13   great shows i'm still trying i'm still [TS]

00:18:16   turning on popping the stack [TS]

00:18:19   yeah look it back to that first talk [TS]

00:18:21   about my morning so and the problem is i [TS]

00:18:23   missed my window because it's like a lot [TS]

00:18:25   of things were like you know like you [TS]

00:18:27   and you watch us [TS]

00:18:28   startrack new generation yeah so like [TS]

00:18:31   for me that came on almost precisely as [TS]

00:18:35   I was starting college where even if I [TS]

00:18:36   did have a TV that I could watch it [TS]

00:18:39   would be very extremely low on my list [TS]

00:18:41   to set aside time in the evening to [TS]

00:18:43   watch a star track who [TS]

00:18:45   ok there's nothing against the star trac [TS]

00:18:46   properties so you're telling me that you [TS]

00:18:48   skipped star trek next next gen I can't [TS]

00:18:52   about this but I'm here to tell you that [TS]

00:18:53   i can honestly tell you I can tell you [TS]

00:18:56   from memory i have seen three full [TS]

00:19:00   episodes of the original series possibly [TS]

00:19:03   maybe ten i have seen I think maybe two [TS]

00:19:07   or three of the new generation which is [TS]

00:19:09   what it's called arm and you don't you [TS]

00:19:12   don't know about the sexism of the [TS]

00:19:14   Ferengi's oh no I know there's four [TS]

00:19:16   lights 404 lights and you don't you [TS]

00:19:19   don't cop to this but you were you [TS]

00:19:21   enjoyed star trac you've mentioned in [TS]

00:19:23   your songs i have not mentioned in my [TS]

00:19:25   songs you wanted a reference you've rest [TS]

00:19:28   reference to start racks in a song what [TS]

00:19:30   song did I reference a star track and [TS]

00:19:33   astatine you do use it really those does [TS]

00:19:36   this is this terrible awesome like puns [TS]

00:19:38   and your song great it starts with the [TS]

00:19:40   earthquake birds snakes instead trains [TS]

00:19:44   startrack Ferengi sexism problem what [TS]

00:19:47   puns do i have in songs i really like [TS]

00:19:49   you do you bullshit like an Angels [TS]

00:19:52   Russians oh alright you guys like that [TS]

00:19:54   that's one example but that's not my [TS]

00:19:57   point you know enjoy that your songs you [TS]

00:19:58   piece of shit i was i was a fan of you [TS]

00:20:00   before anybody knew who you were [TS]

00:20:02   Shawn Nelson yelled at me about that [TS]

00:20:04   line i love that like I said that's [TS]

00:20:06   corny that we got whole song I I someday [TS]

00:20:09   i will get the guts to ask you what the [TS]

00:20:11   fuck that song is about but I for now I [TS]

00:20:14   in enjoy you know thinking about the [TS]

00:20:17   whatever the tall chickens or whatever [TS]

00:20:18   yeah right okay so that was the plan but [TS]

00:20:20   you know something i was a fan of your [TS]

00:20:21   music before anyone care [TS]

00:20:23   about you know you don't have to tell me [TS]

00:20:24   i remember getting started my house in [TS]

00:20:26   your underwear so many times I remember [TS]

00:20:28   sitting in the other room and listening [TS]

00:20:29   to you listen to my second record which [TS]

00:20:31   actually have listened to the first [TS]

00:20:32   minute of it [TS]

00:20:33   I should describe better but it's like [TS]

00:20:35   to have never listened to your brand-new [TS]

00:20:37   record he took it as a dining room took [TS]

00:20:39   me into the dining room with her [TS]

00:20:41   probably Walkman everything like hey [TS]

00:20:43   this is something extremely special [TS]

00:20:44   ok I new record it's not out yet this is [TS]

00:20:47   our demos of our next record and it's [TS]

00:20:50   gonna it's a really big deal [TS]

00:20:51   these are like rough they were rough [TS]

00:20:52   demos but they were rough cuts out early [TS]

00:20:55   songs some of which may not so much did [TS]

00:20:56   some which became the theme song for our [TS]

00:20:58   program which i happen to love josh is [TS]

00:21:00   wrong it's fantastic song and I and I [TS]

00:21:03   was like oh my god this is great and I [TS]

00:21:05   SAT there with your Walkman and you [TS]

00:21:08   won't describe what i did is what he did [TS]

00:21:10   usually do thanks John um you listen to [TS]

00:21:14   the first 20 seconds of a song [TS]

00:21:16   yeah and then you fast forward to the [TS]

00:21:18   next one here the first 20 seconds the [TS]

00:21:20   next one year the first 20 seconds on [TS]

00:21:21   the next one and then you let you go [TS]

00:21:23   they go to the first song and then your [TS]

00:21:25   third song they go back to the first [TS]

00:21:27   first song you listened to 20 seconds of [TS]

00:21:29   a maritime and I was so incredulous and [TS]

00:21:33   horrified i was like growing these songs [TS]

00:21:35   are meant to be listened to all the way [TS]

00:21:37   through there it's not you don't skip [TS]

00:21:38   around and you're like no no I and [TS]

00:21:41   Madeline grabbed me by the arm and took [TS]

00:21:44   me into the kitchen and she said listen [TS]

00:21:45   this is how he does it but just don't [TS]

00:21:47   you don't [TS]

00:21:49   I'm sorry I'm sorry I mean like so many [TS]

00:21:52   many apologies she's made on your behalf [TS]

00:21:54   yeah and and i had to leave you alone i [TS]

00:21:57   had i think i may have had to have gone [TS]

00:21:58   and stood on the back porch and smoke [TS]

00:22:00   cigarettes because i could not a fathom [TS]

00:22:03   or be a sufferer endure endure this this [TS]

00:22:08   process by which he who consumed by my [TS]

00:22:12   my baby might receive challenge must be [TS]

00:22:14   tough on you John [TS]

00:22:16   I have no idea how to use it install [TS]

00:22:18   it's on the clothes [TS]

00:22:20   it was a line in which song i've only [TS]

00:22:22   had one cup of coffee so I mean I get [TS]

00:22:24   this it was the one you make you talk [TS]

00:22:25   about it let's talk about an alien race [TS]

00:22:27   on one of the songs don't you mention [TS]

00:22:29   like what's the ones did not they're not [TS]

00:22:31   Vulcans and they're not [TS]

00:22:33   oh wait a minute [TS]

00:22:35   you mentioned yes I do which song is [TS]

00:22:37   that it's a 0 Romulans I do talk about [TS]

00:22:41   Romulans see what Romulan looks like I [TS]

00:22:43   talk about Romulans one time I mention [TS]

00:22:46   removes one time I look at the Romulans [TS]

00:22:49   yeah they look like a Vulcan kinda [TS]

00:22:50   they're very they're related to Vulcans [TS]

00:22:53   are they okay out there like Vulcan [TS]

00:22:55   cousins [TS]

00:22:55   okay all right all right there like bad [TS]

00:22:57   Vulcans that Vulcans yeah and and I [TS]

00:23:00   think creatures of logic John I believe [TS]

00:23:02   that they are they re yes I I you I was [TS]

00:23:05   using Romulans in that in that moment [TS]

00:23:07   moment to describe a certain kind of [TS]

00:23:10   hipster of the time on Hobbesian sense [TS]

00:23:13   yeah the the hipsters that are that are [TS]

00:23:16   there gradually sinking into the mire [TS]

00:23:19   chewing on one another shinbones know [TS]

00:23:22   this this the the the hipsters that look [TS]

00:23:25   like Romulans I mean there wasn't there [TS]

00:23:27   was a whole era there early emo do you [TS]

00:23:30   know you're right you are really right I [TS]

00:23:32   was like Romulan fashion was what what [TS]

00:23:36   the super hip kids were into so when I [TS]

00:23:40   said Romulans I was just making a dig [TS]

00:23:42   and you know there are none of those in [TS]

00:23:44   my songs I've never making any digs at [TS]

00:23:46   anybody [TS]

00:23:47   oh no you're just you're just the [TS]

00:23:49   all-seeing eye at the pier the musical [TS]

00:23:51   pan opticon that's right that's right [TS]

00:23:53   I'm the Bentham of indie rock em you're [TS]

00:23:57   standing sitting in a box somewhere [TS]

00:24:00   yeah that's right i've tried out bent [TS]

00:24:04   them i'm i'm the head of my head of st. [TS]

00:24:06   John my goodness you're your songs are [TS]

00:24:09   so interesting new morning you lazy eye [TS]

00:24:11   to Romulans over crew laughter when [TS]

00:24:13   Katie died duel over my cold shoulder [TS]

00:24:16   that's right and that's not even a long [TS]

00:24:18   winter song oh no it is it is it it [TS]

00:24:20   became one ticket [TS]

00:24:21   yeah yeah Chris wallet play the drum [TS]

00:24:24   machine on that two ramens over that she [TS]

00:24:27   gets on Nelson doing yamaha keyboard [TS]

00:24:28   harmony you're doing it and someone [TS]

00:24:30   someone called robbie lawler Meyer is [TS]

00:24:32   playing drums a great drum part on that [TS]

00:24:34   yeah it's well so it was a it was a [TS]

00:24:36   thing where we had the we have the drum [TS]

00:24:38   machine and then Robbie played to the [TS]

00:24:41   drum machine which is I think the first [TS]

00:24:42   time that happened on one of our records [TS]

00:24:44   and i was very interested in it can't be [TS]

00:24:46   you [TS]

00:24:46   compliment i think that that's terrific [TS]

00:24:48   songs terrific album people who enjoy [TS]

00:24:50   the worst you can do is harm which is [TS]

00:24:51   which is one of the greatest rock songs [TS]

00:24:54   albums of the last 20 years and I should [TS]

00:24:56   also go and check out the worst you can [TS]

00:24:57   do it harm I'll cut this out but that [TS]

00:24:59   that one strikes me as a particularly [TS]

00:25:01   wonderfully manic chris wallace produce [TS]

00:25:03   song i think it worked on that when the [TS]

00:25:05   chris wallace sound really worked on [TS]

00:25:06   that one [TS]

00:25:07   it did although we had a lot of [TS]

00:25:08   disagreements about it you know if we're [TS]

00:25:10   it's like I'm thinking about it doesn't [TS]

00:25:11   have some weird like kind of you know [TS]

00:25:13   ask like 80 things going on it's got a [TS]

00:25:15   really weird sound to it [TS]

00:25:16   remembering right i played the bass on [TS]

00:25:18   it too which is which is additionally [TS]

00:25:20   look at that you did but you know the [TS]

00:25:22   this there are there's some flanges that [TS]

00:25:26   happens in that song that was a result [TS]

00:25:27   of a very old [TS]

00:25:30   I behnaz flanger pedal called the frying [TS]

00:25:32   pan which is it is a super can even see [TS]

00:25:38   that on the market today probably well [TS]

00:25:40   not for naught naught affordably it was [TS]

00:25:43   like it had these islands pedals like a [TS]

00:25:45   black finger and a and a frying pan to [TS]

00:25:48   make the tube screamer that is [TS]

00:25:50   yeah but these these these pedals are [TS]

00:25:52   pre tubescreamer so they're they're the [TS]

00:25:54   size of a box of chocolates how look at [TS]

00:25:57   this thing just looks like like Soviet [TS]

00:26:00   technology [TS]

00:26:01   yeah yeah yeah and it when they were [TS]

00:26:03   gorgeous and the thing about this [TS]

00:26:04   flanger is that it had a it had a sweep [TS]

00:26:08   that even modern digital Flanders all [TS]

00:26:13   these flanges that have a thousand [TS]

00:26:14   parameters you can you can change i've [TS]

00:26:16   still never heard of a flanger that had [TS]

00:26:19   the sound of this crime and the sweep [TS]

00:26:23   was like from all the way are not where [TS]

00:26:30   it sounds like a new a song but where [TS]

00:26:31   its atmospheric and really just really [TS]

00:26:34   analog in and and it was this beautiful [TS]

00:26:37   piece of gear and I used it on that song [TS]

00:26:41   and then there's nothing you can't [TS]

00:26:44   replace it right you can't go buy some [TS]

00:26:46   modified some modded inline-six thing to [TS]

00:26:50   accomplish the sweep and i bet a nice [TS]

00:26:52   sold that pedal because even at the time [TS]

00:26:54   in 2001 was worth 350 bucks really and [TS]

00:26:58   uh [TS]

00:26:59   and now I'm like I mean it's a dumb [TS]

00:27:01   thing to have kept in a closet all these [TS]

00:27:03   years but but when you find a piece of [TS]

00:27:05   something that can actually do something [TS]

00:27:08   that nothing else can do that's those [TS]

00:27:11   are the ones that you that you don't [TS]

00:27:12   sell em but I mean I'm priced out of the [TS]

00:27:15   frying pan market now so I buffy the [TS]

00:27:20   vampire slayer came on at a time when I [TS]

00:27:23   was a very into music on many love bowls [TS]

00:27:27   and spending a lot of time on music the [TS]

00:27:28   TV that I was into I'm gonna say was [TS]

00:27:31   probably what probably still the [TS]

00:27:32   simpsons seinfeld mr. show ya arm but [TS]

00:27:37   the idea of being at that time I [TS]

00:27:39   wouldn't recommend late nineties so the [TS]

00:27:41   idea of being like a 30 something year [TS]

00:27:43   old man and watching a show about a [TS]

00:27:45   teenager who kills vampires was very [TS]

00:27:46   unappealing to me [TS]

00:27:47   did you like the movie I didn't see the [TS]

00:27:49   movie will see the movie was good yeah i [TS]

00:27:52   saw the movie it was a I don't know [TS]

00:27:53   whether I saw ironically or whether i [TS]

00:27:55   saw it [TS]

00:27:56   I'm it must have been somewhat [TS]

00:27:57   ironically I think everything we did in [TS]

00:27:59   the 90s was ironic that's the thing [TS]

00:28:00   you're you've got it you've got to write [TS]

00:28:02   it was it was ironic but it was also [TS]

00:28:04   that's the only way I consume things [TS]

00:28:05   that was a good movie right oh those [TS]

00:28:08   let's go see below the veil parlor but [TS]

00:28:10   it was actually really good I liked it [TS]

00:28:12   yeah yes different Buffy though and I [TS]

00:28:14   don't know I don't know that has all the [TS]

00:28:16   all the original vampires in it [TS]

00:28:17   well that's so i didn't watch the show [TS]

00:28:19   but i know a lot of food anyway I should [TS]

00:28:22   move on all I'm saying is like I feel [TS]

00:28:24   like I should watch it then i also get [TS]

00:28:25   this vibe from people that's like oh it [TS]

00:28:27   gets a lot better you know in later [TS]

00:28:28   seasons you got to kind of go through [TS]

00:28:30   and it's like today that's difficult [TS]

00:28:32   that's difficult because there's so much [TS]

00:28:33   stuff we're like you know like stuff [TS]

00:28:35   will drop on netflix were like every [TS]

00:28:37   episode is so good you know where it's [TS]

00:28:41   like and so setting aside the time [TS]

00:28:42   like--see oh I'm going to find an hour [TS]

00:28:44   to go watch an episode of daredevil or [TS]

00:28:46   whatever but it's like you know now you [TS]

00:28:48   are like you're in for a diamond for a [TS]

00:28:50   dollar like you're right we're gonna [TS]

00:28:51   watch that whole thing in fact netflix [TS]

00:28:52   pink has gotten rather canny about being [TS]

00:28:55   able to determine how successful [TS]

00:28:56   something will be based on what other [TS]

00:28:58   people watched how much of it up they [TS]

00:28:59   watched etc etc etc so using science on [TS]

00:29:02   our television [TS]

00:29:02   oh I know they are they are peeping at [TS]

00:29:05   you [TS]

00:29:05   you and then they're using that to sell [TS]

00:29:08   things to you this is a thing I've just [TS]

00:29:10   been realizing what are they selling [TS]

00:29:11   tian'an how the internet the internet I [TS]

00:29:13   just the whole idea that [TS]

00:29:15   yeah yeah yeah I you know somebody asked [TS]

00:29:18   me the other day like what I thought [TS]

00:29:19   about the grand sweep of madmen and I [TS]

00:29:23   was not obviously not embarrassed but I [TS]

00:29:26   was chagrined to say that at the end of [TS]

00:29:30   the first season of mad men i found it [TS]

00:29:32   to be so nihilistic that I never watch [TS]

00:29:34   it again so the only one down season of [TS]

00:29:37   mad men because realism is not the thing [TS]

00:29:39   that I'm that I'm consuming media for or [TS]

00:29:42   I have enough of it but you're also like [TS]

00:29:44   in that case it's one thing to say that [TS]

00:29:45   you're gonna go watch like you're gonna [TS]

00:29:47   read a Cormac McCarthy book or something [TS]

00:29:49   to say you know what I'm in for the [TS]

00:29:50   nihilism on this one [TS]

00:29:51   yeah when i'm done i closed the book I [TS]

00:29:53   go look at another thing yet with this [TS]

00:29:54   you're going like wow I mean youyou [TS]

00:29:57   gonna watch an hour this know you're [TS]

00:29:58   gonna watch whatever 20 of these and [TS]

00:30:00   then you're gonna watch that four five [TS]

00:30:01   six seasons you know you know that that [TS]

00:30:03   was me in the walking dead which is now [TS]

00:30:04   one of my favorite it probably is one of [TS]

00:30:06   my favorite shows i look really look [TS]

00:30:08   forward to it [TS]

00:30:09   my hand Christ I could not watch it for [TS]

00:30:11   my wife's been into it from the [TS]

00:30:12   beginning I can't watch it was too much [TS]

00:30:14   and now that summer's yeah yeah but it's [TS]

00:30:17   it's really surprisingly realistic very [TS]

00:30:22   grim and like all these great things [TS]

00:30:23   it's kind of about zombies but it's [TS]

00:30:25   really about the people and how they [TS]

00:30:26   react in the aftermath but that's only a [TS]

00:30:28   long time because it was impossibly as [TS]

00:30:31   you seem realistic [TS]

00:30:32   yeah but the problem for me is yeah I'm [TS]

00:30:35   so disinterested in zombies the only [TS]

00:30:38   thing I'm less interested in zombies [TS]

00:30:40   people [TS]

00:30:41   ok oh no this is this is not you should [TS]

00:30:43   not put this on your on your on your [TS]

00:30:45   netflix in my queue and like you know I [TS]

00:30:47   shouldn't be that you watch the [TS]

00:30:48   predestination movie it's got some good [TS]

00:30:50   scenes in it so desperately sweeping [TS]

00:30:53   tracking from sweeping tracking shots [TS]

00:30:55   all the cinematography magnifique [TS]

00:30:58   so Desmond had a a volley in the market [TS]

00:31:01   store [TS]

00:31:02   yeah yeah and about twenty carat diamond [TS]

00:31:05   ring [TS]

00:31:06   mhm know what about doesn't know I'm not [TS]

00:31:09   just notice am Desmond Desmond Desmond [TS]

00:31:12   job is on this island yes to go sit in [TS]

00:31:14   this hole and every 108 minutes has to [TS]

00:31:17   retype this series of know [TS]

00:31:19   vers otherwise something bad happens [TS]

00:31:21   otherwise yes something right so that is [TS]

00:31:23   really good story that some kids are [TS]

00:31:25   making in a cardboard box they cut [TS]

00:31:27   windows in it wasn't just like this [TS]

00:31:29   okay you're Desmond and you have that [TS]

00:31:31   type of million types and then i will be [TS]

00:31:35   a ghost monster who lives with alarm i [TS]

00:31:38   won't come in here unless you stop [TS]

00:31:39   typing [TS]

00:31:40   yeah but that's basically i'm trying to [TS]

00:31:41   say that that's an analogy because [TS]

00:31:43   that's how I feel like my life is my [TS]

00:31:44   life is not difficult at all basically [TS]

00:31:46   just have to type something every [TS]

00:31:47   hundred eight minutes but if I don't [TS]

00:31:48   type in every hundred minutes there's [TS]

00:31:49   gonna be problems [TS]

00:31:50   oh so this is why I tend to say in other [TS]

00:31:53   places that I don't think of myself as [TS]

00:31:54   busy I think of myself as time [TS]

00:31:56   constrained because i've got to be at [TS]

00:31:57   the keyboard to type every hundred eight [TS]

00:31:59   minutes so you know the universe and [TS]

00:32:01   though I'm not trying to be overly cute [TS]

00:32:03   or clever here I think that's a [TS]

00:32:04   condition of a lot of people today is [TS]

00:32:06   like there's it isn't like you have to [TS]

00:32:08   what are some of the things you always [TS]

00:32:10   pull out their ass you don't have to [TS]

00:32:11   like go mine coal right you get to go bc [TS]

00:32:14   do stuff i'm saying what i do is [TS]

00:32:15   difficult but it is there is a certain [TS]

00:32:17   schedule and regularity to it then what [TS]

00:32:19   you're saying is that like I think that [TS]

00:32:22   most of my time crunch problems could be [TS]

00:32:24   solved if I could stop time because if I [TS]

00:32:26   just stops what are not if I stop time [TS]

00:32:28   if there were four extra hours in a day [TS]

00:32:30   right because i want to sleep for eight [TS]

00:32:33   hours but i also want to stay up until [TS]

00:32:35   four in the morning but i also want to [TS]

00:32:38   get up at 8am oh right you got like two [TS]

00:32:41   or three problems [TS]

00:32:42   yeah so I mean yeah I I don't want to go [TS]

00:32:44   to sleep before 4am for some reason [TS]

00:32:46   because that is what my body said his [TS]

00:32:48   body's telling you i also want to get [TS]

00:32:50   eight hours of sleep but I want to get [TS]

00:32:51   up at eight in the morning so i can join [TS]

00:32:53   the world and be with other people [TS]

00:32:54   yeah and so what I need is just for [TS]

00:32:56   extra hours that are just completely [TS]

00:32:59   reserved for the additional four hours [TS]

00:33:02   of sleep i need and that's what [TS]

00:33:04   condition those you kind of I mean not [TS]

00:33:05   saying you are expressly saying this but [TS]

00:33:07   in in a similar dilemma I feel like I in [TS]

00:33:10   that similar situation i actually want [TS]

00:33:11   to be three different people because [TS]

00:33:13   they're there's less certain let's take [TS]

00:33:14   it as read there is the person who just [TS]

00:33:16   for whatever reason likes to stay up [TS]

00:33:17   late i have for most of my life with you [TS]

00:33:20   know occasional needs to do otherwise [TS]

00:33:23   been somebody who likes staying up late [TS]

00:33:24   let's take that is its own thing [TS]

00:33:26   good-by three i would go to 3x 3y want [TS]

00:33:28   to go to bed but then you also want to [TS]

00:33:30   be the person let's say then you want to [TS]

00:33:32   the person who gets up [TS]

00:33:32   pearly being the person who gets up [TS]

00:33:34   early and the person who goes to bed [TS]

00:33:36   early [TS]

00:33:36   they're related but different people yes [TS]

00:33:38   as the get up early in the morning [TS]

00:33:41   person is the ultimate aspirational [TS]

00:33:42   personality [TS]

00:33:43   yep here we go to charge the day let's [TS]

00:33:45   do it i'm done i've had half a cup of [TS]

00:33:47   coffee and a scone [TS]

00:33:49   I don't need anymore because i'm going [TS]

00:33:51   to the gym I'm doing Pilates before i go [TS]

00:33:52   to work you gotta you gotta work on your [TS]

00:33:54   core and then everything going to bed [TS]

00:33:56   early person like that'sthat's in some [TS]

00:33:58   ways that the real monk that yeah that's [TS]

00:34:00   the personality who sets all things [TS]

00:34:03   aside and says well I just go to bed at [TS]

00:34:05   nine forty-five because that's what I do [TS]

00:34:07   yep talking myself in here got my pjs on [TS]

00:34:09   pol vets sheet up under my chin you [TS]

00:34:12   think your mom suffered from this at all [TS]

00:34:13   it seems like she's got this all pretty [TS]

00:34:15   much on lock [TS]

00:34:16   well no I mean she's a person that only [TS]

00:34:18   needs four hours of sleep because that's [TS]

00:34:20   what happens apparently when you get to [TS]

00:34:21   be an elderly person right but also when [TS]

00:34:25   the sun goes down she starts to wind it [TS]

00:34:29   down because it's like farm people write [TS]

00:34:33   his son gets up [TS]

00:34:35   you've got to get out and make you know [TS]

00:34:38   you're burning daylight [TS]

00:34:39   alright but as soon as the Sun Goes Down [TS]

00:34:41   I think that she thinks like well you [TS]

00:34:44   know the oil in these lamps isn't free [TS]

00:34:46   right keep burning keep burning this oil [TS]

00:34:49   and burn especially burn the midnight [TS]

00:34:51   that's an interesting way to look at it [TS]

00:34:53   because if you think about it and not to [TS]

00:34:54   put too fine a point on it but if you [TS]

00:34:55   think about in terms of let's say you [TS]

00:34:57   are somebody like living on a farm in [TS]

00:34:58   Ohio and you do have limited resources [TS]

00:34:59   and you do have stuff you need to do you [TS]

00:35:02   start to feel maybe a little bit like [TS]

00:35:04   you're you're taking yet taking on a [TS]

00:35:06   certain amount of debt you're burning [TS]

00:35:08   these resources to do what are you [TS]

00:35:10   burning those resources so you can watch [TS]

00:35:11   these in one of vampire buffy the [TS]

00:35:13   vampire slayer well you gotta be making [TS]

00:35:15   biscuits at three-thirty so you may want [TS]

00:35:17   to think twice about that you're like [TS]

00:35:18   kind of hurt yourself two or three [TS]

00:35:19   different ways [TS]

00:35:20   yeah i mean all of the work that you [TS]

00:35:21   this is and I think it's probably true [TS]

00:35:24   I don't mind even be true of people that [TS]

00:35:26   listen to our program but if your work [TS]

00:35:27   if your work is done outside it is [TS]

00:35:31   completely daylight dependent and so [TS]

00:35:35   yeah you're your interaction with the [TS]

00:35:38   world is so much different than mine [TS]

00:35:40   which nothing I do is daylight dependent [TS]

00:35:42   in fact it's much better done [TS]

00:35:44   cloaked in darkness so but but it sounds [TS]

00:35:50   to me like your time management thing [TS]

00:35:51   that this idea that every hundred and [TS]

00:35:53   twenty minutes you have to type into a [TS]

00:35:55   computer you would you wouldn't benefit [TS]

00:35:58   from for extra hours that happen in the [TS]

00:36:01   middle of the night because you're you [TS]

00:36:02   have to beat your tether no that's not [TS]

00:36:05   strictly true i mean that I'm stretching [TS]

00:36:06   the analogy here but all i meant to say [TS]

00:36:07   was that like on a monday morning I know [TS]

00:36:09   their stuff that's got to happen we have [TS]

00:36:11   an orthodontist appointment today so i [TS]

00:36:12   have to remember to put the retainers in [TS]

00:36:14   my backpack because I'm gonna take her [TS]

00:36:16   alma to school after picture to their [TS]

00:36:18   after-school any that with me you don't [TS]

00:36:19   mean that my whole thing i do have kind [TS]

00:36:21   of walking through the day I'm thinking [TS]

00:36:23   about to have the ad spots right I got [TS]

00:36:24   none of these things are difficult but [TS]

00:36:26   like it doesn't take that its kind of [TS]

00:36:28   fault intolerant or like if i do [TS]

00:36:30   something as simple as forget to put the [TS]

00:36:31   retainers in the backpack like that [TS]

00:36:33   really screws up this one part of the [TS]

00:36:35   date not irretrievably bad but you know [TS]

00:36:38   even when everything runs perfectly it's [TS]

00:36:39   still kind of a pain in the ass [TS]

00:36:41   yeah but you know i'm on my way I'm [TS]

00:36:42   doing my thing that says all getting me [TS]

00:36:44   back to a really dumb point I didn't [TS]

00:36:45   even really need to make which is my [TS]

00:36:47   phone rings how do you feel about your [TS]

00:36:49   phone ringing in the morning [TS]

00:36:51   oh I hate when my phone rings only it [TS]

00:36:54   could only be bad news [TS]

00:36:55   yes that's that's how they get you [TS]

00:36:59   yeah so I'm sitting there and of course [TS]

00:37:00   it's an instant used to be when you got [TS]

00:37:03   let's just say nuisance calls or [TS]

00:37:06   unwanted calls it was almost always from [TS]

00:37:09   unknown or from blocked or from whatever [TS]

00:37:11   which I felt perfectly fine just ignore [TS]

00:37:13   it go to voicemail in technology i don't [TS]

00:37:15   know if you get this with the 206 i get [TS]

00:37:17   this with a 415 well get one coming in [TS]

00:37:20   with actually shocking shockingly close [TS]

00:37:22   to my own phone number i'm like oh god [TS]

00:37:24   yeah I can't not pick this up and then I [TS]

00:37:28   start fighting myself because I'm going [TS]

00:37:29   you know is this is this is a leucine [TS]

00:37:31   the football all over again [TS]

00:37:33   I know I know it's going to be a [TS]

00:37:34   robocall about credit cards or mortgages [TS]

00:37:38   or whatever and I fight myself when I [TS]

00:37:39   find myself but now my heart starts [TS]

00:37:42   beating because I'm like what am I gonna [TS]

00:37:43   do what I do so I let it go to voicemail [TS]

00:37:45   I go in google phone number this is [TS]

00:37:48   always the first thing I do before I [TS]

00:37:49   pick up any call right make sense i've [TS]

00:37:52   done it at yeah its credit card thing [TS]

00:37:54   it's a fake credit card scam thing [TS]

00:37:56   yeah but now i'm already little bit off [TS]

00:37:58   my game [TS]

00:37:58   because now I have to stop what I'm [TS]

00:37:59   doing stare at the phone get anxious and [TS]

00:38:01   then go search google i realize this [TS]

00:38:03   very clearly illustrates what a fragile [TS]

00:38:05   person i am because like that's already [TS]

00:38:07   throwing me off my game now you know [TS]

00:38:09   that's the kind of thing where like [TS]

00:38:10   that'sthat's it's not dissimilar from [TS]

00:38:12   the male and female which is like in [TS]

00:38:15   this is this the shade into my former [TS]

00:38:17   profession as a retired productivity [TS]

00:38:19   guru such as long as there is anything [TS]

00:38:21   anywhere that you might need to know [TS]

00:38:23   about [TS]

00:38:24   you've got a friend about it a little [TS]

00:38:25   bit yeah I'm it's also you know we do [TS]

00:38:27   buddy [TS]

00:38:28   every every afternoon early evening i go [TS]

00:38:30   down and there's a giant pile of safeway [TS]

00:38:33   flyers [TS]

00:38:33   yeah I our mail slot and you know what I [TS]

00:38:35   gotta do I gotta pick up and look [TS]

00:38:37   through every safeway flyer to be sure [TS]

00:38:39   that we're not changing their name or [TS]

00:38:41   whatever likely that make sure it's not [TS]

00:38:44   a piece of real mail that got sand into [TS]

00:38:47   the safeway flyer i feel like every year [TS]

00:38:49   the degree to which I am just slightly [TS]

00:38:52   over my budget my yearly budget [TS]

00:38:56   yeah is is down to the fact that I threw [TS]

00:39:00   away a couple of really big checks that [TS]

00:39:01   were talking into a safeway flyer i [TS]

00:39:03   think about it a lot you know where it's [TS]

00:39:05   like well if I just had 10,000 more [TS]

00:39:07   dollars and I bet you about you I did [TS]

00:39:10   yepp baby it was just in there with the [TS]

00:39:12   with this the cheap steaks right and [TS]

00:39:14   make our body even though I'm feeling [TS]

00:39:16   really seasons coming at ya [TS]

00:39:20   I you know I for a long time I didn't [TS]

00:39:23   ever put my phone number and address in [TS]

00:39:26   any kind of you know if i was at the [TS]

00:39:27   doctor if I was at the pharmacy or if I [TS]

00:39:30   was at the airline and they said you [TS]

00:39:32   know put your name and address and phone [TS]

00:39:34   number i would like always try to not [TS]

00:39:37   and then increasingly websites were like [TS]

00:39:41   that's required its required we need [TS]

00:39:43   your phone number because what if the [TS]

00:39:45   reservation changes we need your phone [TS]

00:39:47   number because but typically between I [TS]

00:39:49   know exactly what you're saying then you [TS]

00:39:50   see them is required for what [TS]

00:39:52   yeah but it's like I like to say [TS]

00:39:53   sometimes when I'm being a pill is i'll [TS]

00:39:55   say okay is that a law a rural a policy [TS]

00:39:59   or a suggestion [TS]

00:40:00   yeah because those mean very different [TS]

00:40:02   things to me I don't think that's [TS]

00:40:03   actually a law that's a request that [TS]

00:40:06   you're gonna try and play off legit [TS]

00:40:07   actually gonna use to fuck me [TS]

00:40:09   but if you're doing it online and you [TS]

00:40:11   don't [TS]

00:40:12   fill out there things that will let you [TS]

00:40:14   go to the next page right enjoys you up [TS]

00:40:15   and it's like that there's a little [TS]

00:40:16   arrow there pointing at where your phone [TS]

00:40:18   needs to go and so you you get pushed [TS]

00:40:22   into this posture like okay I guess you [TS]

00:40:24   know I listen I would rather drive to [TS]

00:40:26   the airport and find my flight had been [TS]

00:40:28   cancelled and turn around and go home [TS]

00:40:30   that I would give you my phone number [TS]

00:40:34   airline but they require so you put it [TS]

00:40:37   in and so eventually I stopped I stop [TS]

00:40:40   being such a stickler about it because [TS]

00:40:42   they started to feel like this is just a [TS]

00:40:44   new thing you have to do [TS]

00:40:46   put your phone number well used to be [TS]

00:40:47   used to be some security numbers [TS]

00:40:49   remember like when that was your student [TS]

00:40:51   ID or that's what you just used for [TS]

00:40:53   anything [TS]

00:40:53   login using your social security number [TS]

00:40:55   i don't know well I prefer not to but if [TS]

00:40:58   that's the system I guess I better use [TS]

00:40:59   it when I have a for me [TS]

00:41:01   we used to use our social security [TS]

00:41:03   numbers all the time I haven't put my [TS]

00:41:04   social security number in anything for [TS]

00:41:07   years [TS]

00:41:08   amazon is only student ID and it was on [TS]

00:41:10   everyone i had to clean up some stuff [TS]

00:41:11   for my mom's house a few years back it [TS]

00:41:13   was on pretty much every sheet of paper [TS]

00:41:15   that my college gave me [TS]

00:41:16   yeah it was how you prove to work it was [TS]

00:41:18   your student it was like this equals [TS]

00:41:20   equals you but so I got a prescription [TS]

00:41:22   filled in New Yorker in Baltimore [TS]

00:41:24   something like that a walgreens and they [TS]

00:41:28   wanted my phone number and now I swear [TS]

00:41:31   to you every month I get a robocall from [TS]

00:41:34   a new york area code and generally [TS]

00:41:37   anybody anyway that's called me from New [TS]

00:41:39   York on the phone is somebody that's I [TS]

00:41:43   presume calling to say hey we've got an [TS]

00:41:46   opportunity here for us to use one of [TS]

00:41:48   your songs in buffy the vampire slayer [TS]

00:41:50   spin-off and we just need your approval [TS]

00:41:53   right now because it's going to be a [TS]

00:41:54   hundred and fifty thousand dollars and [TS]

00:41:56   please call me back and so I get these [TS]

00:41:59   new york area code is that you want to [TS]

00:42:02   what is that [TS]

00:42:03   yeah 2127 640 or whatever it is I don't [TS]

00:42:08   remember but i but I recognize them in [TS]

00:42:10   the moment and I it's got me like six [TS]

00:42:13   times i pick it up and it's like hi it's [TS]

00:42:17   time to refill your prescription at the [TS]

00:42:18   Brooklyn walgreens but died a thousand [TS]

00:42:22   deaths [TS]

00:42:23   I don't know who to I don't know who now [TS]

00:42:25   know what or how or who I could ever do [TS]

00:42:28   to get this to stop doing this right [TS]

00:42:31   it's just right away but wait how do i [TS]

00:42:34   unsubscribe you can't well and it's like [TS]

00:42:37   it's also that feeling of helplessness [TS]

00:42:38   we're like well if you know it back in [TS]

00:42:40   the day when we used to think like [TS]

00:42:41   somebody telemarketer will call you so [TS]

00:42:43   you buy mother do not call this please [TS]

00:42:45   remove me from the list but in the case [TS]

00:42:47   of your phone number i guess like you're [TS]

00:42:49   so Security's got into so many places we [TS]

00:42:51   like how would you even know where to [TS]

00:42:53   begin [TS]

00:42:54   you know like you got a robocall sorting [TS]

00:42:56   a match on numbers for several minutes [TS]

00:42:57   let him know that you don't know how [TS]

00:42:59   happy you'll engage with a random phone [TS]

00:43:00   call because you know that's data that's [TS]

00:43:02   data private data when they when they [TS]

00:43:04   call you up and the 1i get frequently is [TS]

00:43:07   this is an important call about your [TS]

00:43:09   current credit card there's not a [TS]

00:43:11   problem the car but this is their last [TS]

00:43:12   opportunity to be leading it's the same [TS]

00:43:14   one every time and they're like you got [TS]

00:43:15   press 2 or whatever to continue and of [TS]

00:43:18   course i guess some kind of button is [TS]

00:43:19   not hooked up to anything to say you [TS]

00:43:22   want off it but like all that does is [TS]

00:43:23   this is how publishers clearing house [TS]

00:43:25   works right i mean i knew this 20 years [TS]

00:43:27   ago like the right way publishers [TS]

00:43:29   clearing house works is you get on [TS]

00:43:31   increasingly more execrable list list [TS]

00:43:33   depending on how many pictures of the [TS]

00:43:35   Buick you pasted into the publishers [TS]

00:43:37   clearing house we got a live one here [TS]

00:43:40   there this will fill out a picture now [TS]

00:43:42   you're pre-qualified yeah no I'm [TS]

00:43:44   pre-qualified for everything Merlin if i [TS]

00:43:47   wanted to i could buy i could buy a [TS]

00:43:49   Gulfstream jet because i have been [TS]

00:43:52   pre-qualified up to 100 million dollars [TS]

00:43:55   huh [TS]

00:43:56   but uh but it's 29 % APR financing [TS]

00:44:02   first-years free standard pretty [TS]

00:44:07   standard yeah it's just boilerplate [TS]

00:44:08   stuff related sign the sign right here [TS]

00:44:11   I've been getting a thing lately in the [TS]

00:44:12   actual mail heavy bond beautiful [TS]

00:44:17   photographs of a thing where what is it [TS]

00:44:20   from its not the hilton hotel because [TS]

00:44:22   i'm on their permanent black West but it [TS]

00:44:25   might be the shit [TS]

00:44:26   cher tune sorry star with me it's not [TS]

00:44:29   starwood because that i know and i know [TS]

00:44:32   enough to throw everything that has the [TS]

00:44:33   word starwood on it right into the [TS]

00:44:35   shredder is that right but it's um it's [TS]

00:44:38   it's like it's a legitimate enterprise [TS]

00:44:41   right it's something nice genuinely nice [TS]

00:44:44   like I don't know if I would call sharon [TS]

00:44:47   that but it's not something like that [TS]

00:44:48   where you're like this is I'm looking [TS]

00:44:50   I'm flipping this around i'm reading the [TS]

00:44:53   fine print very carefully to see where [TS]

00:44:56   it says that I'm gonna have to sit for [TS]

00:44:58   an hour in a timeshare right meeting I [TS]

00:45:02   don't see any of that and i'm looking at [TS]

00:45:04   this thing and basically what it is is [TS]

00:45:05   like a airfare and hotel to Maui for [TS]

00:45:13   seven days seven nights I guess any days [TS]

00:45:18   all in for you know for low low price of [TS]

00:45:25   795 dollars [TS]

00:45:27   I'm like this is insane this seems like [TS]

00:45:30   a really good deal and you know I'm [TS]

00:45:34   turning it over and over looking at it [TS]

00:45:35   like what's the catch what's the catch [TS]

00:45:38   and in every you know at every point [TS]

00:45:40   even the little micro wording of things [TS]

00:45:43   where a catch could be hidden the micro [TS]

00:45:48   wording of this thing is worded in such [TS]

00:45:51   a way that there's no no catch their [TS]

00:45:53   right either they are either they are [TS]

00:45:56   just bald ass lying dallas and you show [TS]

00:46:01   up and when you are standing at the [TS]

00:46:03   front desk they do that thing where [TS]

00:46:04   they're like oh I'm sorry there are no [TS]

00:46:06   double rooms available and i will wait [TS]

00:46:09   am I now I know you just bracing you're [TS]

00:46:10   just like you're just one big knot and [TS]

00:46:13   anxiety waiting to find out how to get [TS]

00:46:14   you [TS]

00:46:15   yeah like oh sorry the only rooms that [TS]

00:46:17   apply to this plan are one full-size bed [TS]

00:46:21   or whatever I'm like I'm your three [TS]

00:46:23   people but so i'm reading this thing I'm [TS]

00:46:26   like I can figure out the catch struck [TS]

00:46:30   me crazy this seems like a good deal but [TS]

00:46:33   it but I don't want to be I don't want [TS]

00:46:36   to be the 75 year old was like sounds [TS]

00:46:38   like a great deal and you buy it [TS]

00:46:39   and then they're taking four dollars a [TS]

00:46:41   month out of your account and then when [TS]

00:46:43   I really looked at it I was like oh wait [TS]

00:46:44   a minute this is still like a hundred [TS]

00:46:47   and twenty dollars a day [TS]

00:46:49   yeah right it's not you have gotten that [TS]

00:46:51   deal i got that deal one time where [TS]

00:46:53   there's a semi popular sort of like in [TS]

00:46:58   the days before we knew about things [TS]

00:46:59   like Max fun Cruz joko cruise this guy [TS]

00:47:03   was really active in trouble for this [TS]

00:47:06   this guy was very actively trying to get [TS]

00:47:08   me to go on this cruise for people who [TS]

00:47:12   are somewhat notable with regard to a [TS]

00:47:16   certain computer platform with Rahu and [TS]

00:47:19   he was really like this is your family [TS]

00:47:20   going to go it's gonna be amazing and i [TS]

00:47:22   did when i did the math on it was like [TS]

00:47:24   any sea cruise you mean Star Trek thing [TS]

00:47:27   wasn't any see that was the appropriate [TS]

00:47:31   platform or the jack the neck and yes I [TS]

00:47:35   think it's the Nintendo oh and yes no [TS]

00:47:37   didn't it would cost me about ten [TS]

00:47:38   thousand dollars to go on the cruise [TS]

00:47:40   once i figured it all out I mean you [TS]

00:47:42   know it's like nobody is going to send [TS]

00:47:44   you something nice bond paper that's [TS]

00:47:45   actually good for you right and fighters [TS]

00:47:49   have farmed the thicker the bond the [TS]

00:47:52   harder the screw finger the bond you [TS]

00:47:54   find out any see computer [TS]

00:47:58   am I crazy here no I think that's a [TS]

00:48:00   that's a thing [TS]

00:48:02   national electronic computer company or [TS]

00:48:04   something [TS]

00:48:05   NEC global oh yeah look at the mall NEC [TS]

00:48:09   sure sure sure sure I wasn't sure [TS]

00:48:13   story checks out there some computers [TS]

00:48:15   yeah yeah I'm so i have to say i still [TS]

00:48:20   have this brochure are my on my table [TS]

00:48:22   even though it expired on march 15 [TS]

00:48:25   because I'm still just I'm turning it [TS]

00:48:28   over and over my hands like did I miss [TS]

00:48:30   an opportunity here or is this is this [TS]

00:48:33   like such a a great con job such a total [TS]

00:48:37   screw job like what you what you don't [TS]

00:48:40   want you don't want a situation where [TS]

00:48:43   here's this big hotel in Malley and [TS]

00:48:46   they're just under capacity and they're [TS]

00:48:48   just trying to do this to get rid of [TS]

00:48:50   this [TS]

00:48:50   at these excess rooms right and the [TS]

00:48:52   rooms are just as beautiful as they are [TS]

00:48:54   on as they are shown to be on this on [TS]

00:48:57   this brochure and I'm not interrupting [TS]

00:48:59   but you were very much aware that this [TS]

00:49:01   is a real phenomenon when it comes to [TS]

00:49:03   flight where you've all read the [TS]

00:49:04   articles about how every person on that [TS]

00:49:06   plane paid something different one [TS]

00:49:07   person on that plane paid one tenth of [TS]

00:49:10   the price for a coach ticket somebody [TS]

00:49:12   else did not a real thing involving [TS]

00:49:14   capacity supply and demand right right [TS]

00:49:16   so don't seem out of the imagination [TS]

00:49:17   that this would be a real thing when i [TS]

00:49:19   went on what I was flying back from the [TS]

00:49:21   Joker's there were some people there in [TS]

00:49:24   the economy comfort area and i'm not i'm [TS]

00:49:30   not above saying that I i fly economy [TS]

00:49:33   comfort when I can and there was it's [TS]

00:49:36   like economy plus like a slightly bigger [TS]

00:49:38   chair and has been another chair and you [TS]

00:49:40   know and and there were a couple they're [TS]

00:49:44   coming back from the cruise and they in [TS]

00:49:47   their loudest voices were like oh my god [TS]

00:49:50   we had no seat assignment until we got [TS]

00:49:52   here at the airport and then they just [TS]

00:49:54   put us here in these in these chairs at [TS]

00:49:57   in the front row like their economy [TS]

00:50:00   comfort seats were even better than mine [TS]

00:50:02   and they were like we only paid a [TS]

00:50:04   hundred twenty-five dollars from for [TS]

00:50:06   this whole flight from expedia.com dot [TS]

00:50:09   org and everyone else in the plane you [TS]

00:50:13   know had those uh have those like Tom [TS]

00:50:17   and Jerry knives coming out of their [TS]

00:50:20   eyes at them like ok great for you shut [TS]

00:50:24   up sit down stop it you're making me [TS]

00:50:27   feel awful [TS]

00:50:28   they're like we got a hundred and twenty [TS]

00:50:30   dollars and they just put us right here [TS]

00:50:32   in seats 1a and 2a not cool not cool [TS]

00:50:36   like Tom and Jerry nice um commentary [TS]

00:50:44   knives [TS]

00:50:45   yeah no no let's make it in don't worry [TS]

00:50:47   but what about whatever it was the butt [TS]

00:50:49   of the big bad wolf [TS]

00:50:50   how do you feel about the big bad wolf I [TS]

00:50:52   just said that the whole like kind of [TS]

00:50:54   post Red Riding Hood idea [TS]

00:50:56   yeah where the big bad wolf became like [TS]

00:50:58   a trope we're all of a sudden they're [TS]

00:51:00   big bad wolves [TS]

00:51:01   everywhere oh yes you got separated from [TS]

00:51:03   red robin hood [TS]

00:51:04   oh yeah you got me thinking about red [TS]

00:51:06   riding hood as being important because [TS]

00:51:08   like that's a story lots of kids here [TS]

00:51:10   you old you think about it you realize [TS]

00:51:12   it's probably about sexual assault and [TS]

00:51:15   then you get cartoons where there's a [TS]

00:51:16   lot of wolves you got a certain kind of [TS]

00:51:18   wolf in a zoot suit was checking out [TS]

00:51:19   ladies see right whose tongue and [TS]

00:51:21   eyeballs come out of his head when i [TS]

00:51:23   checked Jones wolf my arm my lying or [TS]

00:51:26   the same kind of wolf that might think [TS]

00:51:28   you look at the pork chop [TS]

00:51:29   right right right that'll happen a wolf [TS]

00:51:31   that goes through a wall and he's a wolf [TS]

00:51:32   shaped hole that'll happen what I think [TS]

00:51:35   about the wolf I I don't have a super [TS]

00:51:38   strong feeling about it [TS]

00:51:39   we have not been a big fairy tale family [TS]

00:51:41   I feel like it's been a little bit of a [TS]

00:51:42   failing interesting now I've tried I [TS]

00:51:45   tried because there's a beloved readers [TS]

00:51:47   digest readers digest book of fairy [TS]

00:51:49   tales that I grew up with little pencil [TS]

00:51:51   checkmarks next each one the we dread [TS]

00:51:53   yeah and my daughter wasn't into it I so [TS]

00:51:56   i've i've been trying I feel the same [TS]

00:51:58   obligation because you know between my [TS]

00:52:00   mom and me right she's just close enough [TS]

00:52:02   to the generation of my dad obviously [TS]

00:52:04   was for all intensive purposes of [TS]

00:52:06   Victorian where that was the only [TS]

00:52:09   entertainment you had was reading [TS]

00:52:11   registered kipling and Grimm's fairy [TS]

00:52:14   tales huh [TS]

00:52:16   because it was still plausible day hey [TS]

00:52:19   that nobody knew how the nobody knew how [TS]

00:52:23   their run our Scottish scales but also [TS]

00:52:26   that a that there were still women who [TS]

00:52:29   would make you into a cake and like it [TS]

00:52:32   just in your neighborhood and so so i've [TS]

00:52:35   been i've started to read some of that [TS]

00:52:38   stuff to my daughter and the other day I [TS]

00:52:41   read her i mean i was explaining like [TS]

00:52:43   the boy who cried wolf and very quickly [TS]

00:52:46   she became known as The Girl Who Cried [TS]

00:52:49   al because there is a we have had a real [TS]

00:52:53   escalation lately in the word how oh all [TS]

00:52:58   we went through this where it's not [TS]

00:53:00   exactly a fake injury but it's more like [TS]

00:53:02   the reaction proceed the actual feeling [TS]

00:53:04   yeah somebody pulls out a hairbrush and [TS]

00:53:07   she's like oh falls to the floor you [TS]

00:53:10   know [TS]

00:53:10   and it's like are you being the girl who [TS]

00:53:12   cried out and and her eyes light up [TS]

00:53:15   because she understands the boy who [TS]

00:53:18   cried wolf [TS]

00:53:18   she got that and now she realizes you [TS]

00:53:21   know we have to we've changed it we've [TS]

00:53:23   it's a that now it's a metaphor and [TS]

00:53:25   she's the she's the girl cried out and [TS]

00:53:28   it's I've actually found it to be very [TS]

00:53:30   effective in defusing these like our [TS]

00:53:34   storms [TS]

00:53:35   yeah sure I'd makes a lot of sense i've [TS]

00:53:37   heard people say similar things to end [TS]

00:53:39   up in a contemporary context with the [TS]

00:53:40   the movie inside out [TS]

00:53:42   I think it's probably very frequently [TS]

00:53:43   exaggerated that's ok but now I know [TS]

00:53:45   exactly what you mean when you have a [TS]

00:53:46   way to see like that's the beauty of a [TS]

00:53:47   fable you know Scorpion and the Frog [TS]

00:53:49   it's like one of the greatest stories of [TS]

00:53:51   all time [TS]

00:53:51   nothing describes the situation better [TS]

00:53:53   than the Scorpion and the Frog of the [TS]

00:53:54   Scorpion and the Frog what that would [TS]

00:53:56   have won a mismatched pair you remember [TS]

00:53:58   that story I have no idea i I thought [TS]

00:54:00   you were making it up there's a real [TS]

00:54:02   Scorpion and the Frog story always the [TS]

00:54:04   Scorpion rides the Frog make it as quick [TS]

00:54:06   as I can the Scorpion says hey look i [TS]

00:54:08   need to get across the river and won't [TS]

00:54:10   sting you [TS]

00:54:10   but yeah it's so just give me a ride on [TS]

00:54:12   your back the Foxes look if I put you on [TS]

00:54:13   my back you know going to sting me [TS]

00:54:16   yeah but flash forward to get halfway [TS]

00:54:18   through the scorpion stings the Frog [TS]

00:54:20   yeah they're gonna dice which do you [TS]

00:54:22   said you were going to me said what you [TS]

00:54:23   would expect from a scorpion [TS]

00:54:24   yeah I always i think in Alaska that was [TS]

00:54:26   a that was the moose in the peregrine [TS]

00:54:30   falcon or something we had a rather than [TS]

00:54:31   we didn't have scorpions or frogs it [TS]

00:54:33   didn't make any sense to have seen [TS]

00:54:34   little exotic yeah I was something was [TS]

00:54:36   something more more normal like you know [TS]

00:54:38   the musk ox and the and the and the [TS]

00:54:41   wolverine what do you expect i'm a [TS]

00:54:43   Wolverine why did you tear me up [TS]

00:54:45   does she ask you to the she like when [TS]

00:54:47   she asked you to read something if [TS]

00:54:48   you're comfortable saying what kind of [TS]

00:54:49   stuff did she ask you to read this does [TS]

00:54:51   she like fables and fairytales [TS]

00:54:53   mm so we go to we buy most of our books [TS]

00:54:56   at the thrift store and so we go over to [TS]

00:54:59   the children's book area and she plopped [TS]

00:55:01   herself down and immediately starts [TS]

00:55:03   pulling out every book that has a huge [TS]

00:55:07   alien i guide your garbage princess and [TS]

00:55:12   she's like look it's Dora look it's bit [TS]

00:55:14   Cinderella look at you know all this [TS]

00:55:16   stuff again tonight and I referred or [TS]

00:55:18   simply as the yelling show ya the [TS]

00:55:20   yelling show i care is a girl with a [TS]

00:55:22   wedge haircut that's going to yell at [TS]

00:55:23   you and then [TS]

00:55:24   stare at you wait my hand some much and [TS]

00:55:28   she pulls this stuff out of the out of [TS]

00:55:31   the shows because it's exotic to write [TS]

00:55:33   this isn't stuff that she's allowed to [TS]

00:55:34   have so she's just like oh my God look [TS]

00:55:36   at this it's so amazing it's like a it's [TS]

00:55:39   like a comic book where Barbie talks [TS]

00:55:41   about products that you can buy you feel [TS]

00:55:43   like you really feel sometimes like [TS]

00:55:44   you're buying an ad [TS]

00:55:46   yeah looks like you're basically [TS]

00:55:47   purchasing a pamphlet that's an add [TS]

00:55:49   those Barbie books where it's like oh I [TS]

00:55:51   didn't know what to do about a computer [TS]

00:55:54   so then came and and I was busy [TS]

00:55:57   repairing my broken fingernail walk-in [TS]

00:55:59   solve my problems like I would rather [TS]

00:56:02   put her in isolation tank and play her [TS]

00:56:05   the first episode of lost that i would [TS]

00:56:07   buy any one of these garbage books [TS]

00:56:09   social but she's down on the floor [TS]

00:56:11   pulling this stuff out and just just [TS]

00:56:14   like like a like she's been lost in the [TS]

00:56:17   desert her whole life and someone's [TS]

00:56:19   given her a glass of cold water like [TS]

00:56:22   she's just she's consuming this as fast [TS]

00:56:24   as she can because she knows that it's [TS]

00:56:26   not going to last and I'm up still in [TS]

00:56:30   the children's book section thumbing [TS]

00:56:31   through them looking for titles I [TS]

00:56:33   recognized from my own childhood so I'm [TS]

00:56:36   like oh look here you know [TS]

00:56:38   look here marlo it's the book about [TS]

00:56:39   you're not my mother where the little [TS]

00:56:41   bird loses its mother and decides that [TS]

00:56:43   maybe a steam steam tractor which by [TS]

00:56:48   this drawing we can clearly tell that [TS]

00:56:50   this book was was made in 1940 and I and [TS]

00:56:54   it was already an anachronism when i was [TS]

00:56:56   reading it like look at this and I show [TS]

00:56:58   it to her she's just like no princesses [TS]

00:57:02   there's nothing fun about this book at [TS]

00:57:04   somebody's know it has no as they see [TS]

00:57:05   with automobiles has no curb appeal [TS]

00:57:07   there's no curb appeal but which book [TS]

00:57:09   goes into the shopping cart daddy's book [TS]

00:57:12   about i mean i bought a book about a [TS]

00:57:14   book for her the other day which is a [TS]

00:57:16   comic I mean it's a cartoon book but [TS]

00:57:19   it's a story of a little girl whose [TS]

00:57:23   whose rabbi in Poland gives his ticket [TS]

00:57:29   to her to put her on the boat to go to [TS]

00:57:31   America [TS]

00:57:32   and she goes to America and works the [TS]

00:57:35   seamstress in order to save up enough [TS]

00:57:38   money to buy a ticket for her aging [TS]

00:57:41   grandmother who is still living in [TS]

00:57:43   Poland and it was like milking a horse [TS]

00:57:46   look at that survived this is right up [TS]

00:57:50   your alley and i'm reading this story to [TS]

00:57:52   her and like tears are streaming down my [TS]

00:57:55   cheeks because a beautiful book [TS]

00:57:57   yeah and it's the story of America sure [TS]

00:57:59   and the you know the illustrations are [TS]

00:58:01   good but its limits Barry it's touching [TS]

00:58:03   and checking his and she loves the book [TS]

00:58:07   now because you know it's a book that [TS]

00:58:09   everytime daddy reads that he starts [TS]

00:58:11   crying about the about the great you [TS]

00:58:14   know the Diaspora but there's not you [TS]

00:58:18   know there's no there obviously no magic [TS]

00:58:20   in it no princess not a lot of pink and [TS]

00:58:22   purple [TS]

00:58:22   no well there's you know the princess is [TS]

00:58:24   basically in a lower east side sweatshop [TS]

00:58:26   sewing wedding dresses in order to get [TS]

00:58:30   get the 40 shekels to go buy a trip on [TS]

00:58:35   the Lusitania for grandmother so she [TS]

00:58:37   doesn't have to drink horses milking [TS]

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01:00:57   there's no nickelodeon show for that [TS]

01:00:59   right now [TS]

01:01:00   no there's no other there's not a single [TS]

01:01:01   song in it except you know except [TS]

01:01:05   dreidel dreidel dreidel dreidel dreidel [TS]

01:01:07   trail and so anyway this is the this is [TS]

01:01:10   the culture that I'm inflicting on her [TS]

01:01:12   and what we went to a far restaurant [TS]

01:01:16   last night they had a big screen TV on [TS]

01:01:18   the wall and it was playing the latest [TS]

01:01:20   iteration of the blue / TV bloopers show [TS]

01:01:23   all sure yeah yeah the whole steps that [TS]

01:01:26   I don't think that's ever really gone [TS]

01:01:27   away between the the home videos and the [TS]

01:01:29   bloopers there is always something there [TS]

01:01:30   and this is I think home the home videos [TS]

01:01:32   it's just basically show people getting [TS]

01:01:34   kicked in the crotch rub your balls [TS]

01:01:36   getting shot into the air and the and [TS]

01:01:40   let the host of it is the smarmy guy [TS]

01:01:43   from fresh prince of bel-air like rich [TS]

01:01:46   son of the other guy the other guy from [TS]

01:01:50   The Fresh Prince of bel-air who I have [TS]

01:01:52   to say has not aged a day like he looks [TS]

01:01:55   incredible [TS]

01:01:55   so he was like a smaller guy with a [TS]

01:01:57   mustache that's right smaller guy with a [TS]

01:01:58   Muslim guy but he's nice and he seems [TS]

01:02:00   nice and he comes out he's like alright [TS]

01:02:02   another here's another bunch of people [TS]

01:02:04   getting hit in the crotch all right [TS]

01:02:05   let's go [TS]

01:02:07   this this parrot is crazy it drinks milk [TS]

01:02:09   and it's and it swears like a sailor and [TS]

01:02:12   so this is on the team [TS]

01:02:13   and you could have put firecrackers in [TS]

01:02:16   your ears and you wouldn't have gotten [TS]

01:02:18   any response from her she was just [TS]

01:02:19   completely in the world of bloopers and [TS]

01:02:23   a lot of them didn't even get the [TS]

01:02:25   blooper right like somebody just got hit [TS]

01:02:28   in the crotch and she's like I don't get [TS]

01:02:31   it but this year we have exactly the [TS]

01:02:33   same experience I have a thought on this [TS]

01:02:35   so you know that look so like as with [TS]

01:02:38   the princess properties it is it is an [TS]

01:02:42   overused analogy but it's not precisely [TS]

01:02:44   crack but it's extremely attractive to [TS]

01:02:46   kids because science right there using [TS]

01:02:48   all the means all the same way that they [TS]

01:02:50   would try to make Don Corleone son look [TS]

01:02:51   better for the funeral [TS]

01:02:52   they're using all of their powers [TS]

01:02:54   calling upon all the powers to make this [TS]

01:02:55   as appealing as possible to little kids [TS]

01:02:57   so we got to you know that little diner [TS]

01:02:59   by our house and of course it's usually [TS]

01:03:01   like premier league soccer or golf or [TS]

01:03:04   whatever on [TS]

01:03:05   yeah and she is or infomercial they [TS]

01:03:08   might have an infomercial channel on [TS]

01:03:09   because there are channels for [TS]

01:03:11   infomercials she is wrapped the entire [TS]

01:03:13   time you know what here's my thought on [TS]

01:03:15   this [TS]

01:03:15   I think it's basically headline news for [TS]

01:03:18   children it's the same concept why do [TS]

01:03:20   adults [TS]

01:03:21   why do adults stare slack-jawed at that [TS]

01:03:24   screen in the airport i think is the [TS]

01:03:26   transitions it's the music it's the [TS]

01:03:28   noise it's it's a little motion graphics [TS]

01:03:30   I think that was your role at the bottom [TS]

01:03:32   and no one knows what it means right and [TS]

01:03:34   i think that's all extreme they know [TS]

01:03:36   that that is extremely attractive to a [TS]

01:03:38   certain kind of feeble mind and I think [TS]

01:03:39   that's what they do with children with [TS]

01:03:40   these put these programs [TS]

01:03:41   yeah yeah I uh I i asked her one time [TS]

01:03:46   because we're sitting we go to an irish [TS]

01:03:47   restaurant every once in awhile because [TS]

01:03:49   daddy likes a corned beef and cabin and [TS]

01:03:52   let me to let me tell you an irish [TS]

01:03:54   restaurant has very little appeal to [TS]

01:03:56   children because I mean everyone else in [TS]

01:04:01   there is is his red faced drunk now I [TS]

01:04:04   know that's racist [TS]

01:04:05   that's that's who goes I don't think you [TS]

01:04:08   can be racist against the Irish well you [TS]

01:04:10   used to be able to it was one of the big [TS]

01:04:11   kind that's true that's true the [TS]

01:04:13   different Irish need not apply [TS]

01:04:14   yeah that's what the that's the whole [TS]

01:04:16   premise behind de Molay in the knights [TS]

01:04:18   of columbus keep you know my mom was a [TS]

01:04:21   rainbow girl really and her quote [TS]

01:04:23   unquote boyfriend was in team LA now all [TS]

01:04:25   of that stuff was just to keep [TS]

01:04:27   Catholics out is that right yeah yeah [TS]

01:04:29   those don't think I think knights of [TS]

01:04:31   columbus and was like the Ku Klux Klan [TS]

01:04:33   of Catholics even though the Ku Klux [TS]

01:04:36   clam of its kind of like I don't need [TS]

01:04:38   you to dance [TS]

01:04:40   yeah yeah it's for you to dance videos [TS]

01:04:43   but i can see and I have always had a [TS]

01:04:48   hell of a baseball team they were all of [TS]

01:04:50   the toughest opponents for everybody [TS]

01:04:52   KFC you know they are because they are [TS]

01:04:56   because baseball is how you defeat the [TS]

01:04:57   Catholics is that is that right [TS]

01:05:00   how far back does that go to the [TS]

01:05:02   invention of baseball that's why they [TS]

01:05:03   invented it so it was even if that's so [TS]

01:05:05   interesting to me so it starts in [TS]

01:05:07   England they got cricket not many [TS]

01:05:08   Catholics you come up with this idea of [TS]

01:05:10   baseball and that's going to be a way to [TS]

01:05:11   find out what the Catholics in their [TS]

01:05:12   place the ball is the Pope there's only [TS]

01:05:16   one think about it it's white [TS]

01:05:18   msu question does the ball ever get [TS]

01:05:20   thrown out of a game know the ball is [TS]

01:05:21   infallible the ball is infallible the [TS]

01:05:24   ball just keeps going around and around [TS]

01:05:26   and around huh [TS]

01:05:27   and every once in a while the umpire who [TS]

01:05:29   is the College of Cardinals takes a [TS]

01:05:32   dirty ball out of play and fifty [TS]

01:05:35   different parish [TS]

01:05:36   yep and then all you do is so this is [TS]

01:05:38   the thing when you're watching a [TS]

01:05:39   baseball game look for the white smoke [TS]

01:05:41   ok if it's great smoky still have time [TS]

01:05:43   to go to bathroom get hot they stop [TS]

01:05:44   selling at usually like seventh-inning [TS]

01:05:46   you can get a beer anymore and also most [TS]

01:05:49   people aren't doing anything I hardly at [TS]

01:05:51   all and then sometimes one person moves [TS]

01:05:53   a little bit [TS]

01:05:54   yep right that's right there a lot of [TS]

01:05:56   kids at the game 20 tradition and family [TS]

01:05:58   tradition family tradition and family [TS]

01:06:00   this is rach for Catholics John well so [TS]

01:06:03   and if it is it's Catholic crack that's [TS]

01:06:05   how to get them in and then that's how [TS]

01:06:06   ultimately he'll be defeated [TS]

01:06:09   that's still unclear yeah it's a it's a [TS]

01:06:12   long game John a very long game not sure [TS]

01:06:14   how Pete Rose factors into it either but [TS]

01:06:16   I remember is I met him twice you met [TS]

01:06:19   Pete Rose twice [TS]

01:06:21   Wow to be sorry anything for you yeah he [TS]

01:06:25   signed the insides anything and just got [TS]

01:06:27   a famous for that the two times before [TS]

01:06:29   the disgrace [TS]

01:06:30   oh no this is this is circa nineteen [TS]

01:06:33   seventy-six this is a big red machine [TS]

01:06:34   era [TS]

01:06:35   Wow [TS]

01:06:36   you just because you were in ohio can we [TS]

01:06:38   just see the Reds around town you would [TS]

01:06:40   just go one of the times I saw and [TS]

01:06:42   briefly met Pete Rose was at a [TS]

01:06:44   restaurant called Johnny bench's home [TS]

01:06:46   plate right over there at the northgate [TS]

01:06:48   mall in Colerain Avenue I know about it [TS]

01:06:50   yep yep yep i know i've told my people a [TS]

01:06:53   story before you have but i but I wanted [TS]

01:06:58   everybody else to enjoy it too but we [TS]

01:07:00   should probably stay focused on the [TS]

01:07:01   Catholics it's a good story though right [TS]

01:07:02   right I'll take all y'all tell you the [TS]

01:07:05   punchline of the story is when Pete Rose [TS]

01:07:07   says oh yeah he's the one with the [TS]

01:07:09   daughter that don't got no arm the don't [TS]

01:07:11   got no arms that's right that's right [TS]

01:07:13   sorry I do remember but when i go to be [TS]

01:07:18   47 things that of all the things you [TS]

01:07:20   could say in your restaurant that you [TS]

01:07:23   own called Pete Rose's that you would be [TS]

01:07:25   sitting there to table little boy come [TS]

01:07:27   up of all the things that would come out [TS]

01:07:28   of your mouth [TS]

01:07:29   he's the one who's his his his file card [TS]

01:07:33   on the on that on that scout for the Ace [TS]

01:07:36   was that his daughter had a birth defect [TS]

01:07:38   is is daughter it ain't got no warm [TS]

01:07:40   isn't the data that income no harm [TS]

01:07:42   yeah yeah well as it is a simple yet [TS]

01:07:44   different times simple man but a [TS]

01:07:47   possible there's a lot of his way there [TS]

01:07:48   so I'm sorry SI just to close it out a [TS]

01:07:50   lot of baseball players we can let's [TS]

01:07:52   just be honest they come from Central [TS]

01:07:53   and South America very Catholic country [TS]

01:07:55   nowadays [TS]

01:07:56   yeah right i mean it's been everything [TS]

01:07:57   is changing everything is changing its a [TS]

01:07:59   Catholic game it used to be a game [TS]

01:08:01   against the Catholic rather taken aback [TS]

01:08:03   that's our term don't say queer that's [TS]

01:08:05   our turn now we're taking it back [TS]

01:08:06   that's right bass ball mounts Catholic [TS]

01:08:08   game what you gonna do about Addie Molay [TS]

01:08:09   yeah that's right [TS]

01:08:11   nobody gonna do have a dance yeah right [TS]

01:08:14   are you going to go sit in your secret [TS]

01:08:15   Club plot against Catholics too late too [TS]

01:08:18   late taking over taking over the USA [TS]

01:08:21   Oh doctor right now we still have a [TS]

01:08:23   Catholic president though [TS]

01:08:25   oh no we did just the one that's the one [TS]

01:08:27   just one yeah famously famously in [TS]

01:08:29   retrospect that is an incredibly big [TS]

01:08:31   deal [TS]

01:08:31   it wasn't the time young like when you [TS]

01:08:33   really think about it now like what an [TS]

01:08:34   incredibly big deal when think about [TS]

01:08:37   what was last time you heard of the [TS]

01:08:38   knights of columbus not since 1978 when [TS]

01:08:41   they would paste our ass every saturday [TS]

01:08:42   baseball paste are asked what a nice [TS]

01:08:45   Ohio phrase that is [TS]

01:08:47   that's how we would measure it tastes [TS]

01:08:49   are ass [TS]

01:08:50   well case ah outpaced is your ass pretty [TS]

01:08:54   tasty so pasted white as paste we would [TS]

01:08:57   go into this we go into this irish [TS]

01:08:59   restaurant or beef and cabbage [TS]

01:09:00   restaurant and they have tvs all around [TS]

01:09:02   everyone this I support this actually [TS]

01:09:05   TVs each one turn tuned to a different [TS]

01:09:09   sport is basketball TV there's a curling [TS]

01:09:13   TV there's something to distract [TS]

01:09:15   something to distract everyone that's [TS]

01:09:17   right you pick that you pick where you [TS]

01:09:18   want to sit in this restaurant based on [TS]

01:09:20   what sport you want to be assaulted by [TS]

01:09:21   so we go and sit in this place and she's [TS]

01:09:24   just looking around just her head [TS]

01:09:26   spinning all these sports none of which [TS]

01:09:29   has daddy made any attempt to explain [TS]

01:09:32   and at one point I was like you're [TS]

01:09:36   watching these games so intently what's [TS]

01:09:39   your favorite sport and without even [TS]

01:09:40   without even a moment of hesitation she [TS]

01:09:43   was like hockey [TS]

01:09:44   no kidding is that hockey huh well i'm [TS]

01:09:47   raising a hockey fan like I can't think [TS]

01:09:52   of a I can't think of a thing either [TS]

01:09:54   would have surprised me more i was and i [TS]

01:09:56   think Eileen it was like are you sure [TS]

01:09:57   you don't like curling I'll be [TS]

01:09:59   hornswoggled [TS]

01:10:00   how did she even know what is what it's [TS]

01:10:03   called i think that at one point I went [TS]

01:10:05   around the room and I was like baseball [TS]

01:10:06   football hockey basketball you know the [TS]

01:10:10   other one's self explanatory skiing [TS]

01:10:12   obviously and curling who doesn't know [TS]

01:10:13   what that is [TS]

01:10:14   sure but she watches and I think the [TS]

01:10:17   pace and the fact that hockey players [TS]

01:10:19   are are so elegantly skating [TS]

01:10:23   I mean I think it has an appeal to her [TS]

01:10:25   i'm not sure if she's if she's aware of [TS]

01:10:27   the of the violence [TS]

01:10:30   maybe I mean you know i bought it for [TS]

01:10:31   her birthday but a full suit of armor [TS]

01:10:33   nice yeah because because she keeps she [TS]

01:10:38   keeps picking up swords at thrift stores [TS]

01:10:40   and saying my sword is ready to kill [TS]

01:10:42   well whose fault is that well I feel [TS]

01:10:45   like it's a chain mail order together [TS]

01:10:47   like full plate armor [TS]

01:10:48   yeah breastplates and a shield and [TS]

01:10:50   helmet you feeling that something should [TS]

01:10:52   have to earn our three campaigns I feel [TS]

01:10:55   like that she has campaigned an awful [TS]

01:10:57   lot [TS]

01:10:57   she's you know the the big [TS]

01:11:00   takeaway for her upcoming loop and 23 [TS]

01:11:03   which is one of four movies she seen was [TS]

01:11:06   that you use come through on daddy [TS]

01:11:08   oh god yes and so a lot of kungfu [TS]

01:11:11   happening a lot of every every takeaway [TS]

01:11:14   of a story where there's magic involved [TS]

01:11:16   is that this now is Magic that you can [TS]

01:11:18   use on Danny and so between using magic [TS]

01:11:22   on me and comforting me and killing me [TS]

01:11:24   as as every single dragon or bati i just [TS]

01:11:28   realized that she had a bloodlust [TS]

01:11:30   yeah I'm and I want her to start killing [TS]

01:11:32   people that aren't daddy [TS]

01:11:34   by which I mean orcs orcs is just for [TS]

01:11:36   thinking to mind bugbears be a good [TS]

01:11:38   place to start to but bears are that's a [TS]

01:11:41   bear has a lot of hit points and a [TS]

01:11:43   bugbear like a first-level engine kind [TS]

01:11:46   of thing [TS]

01:11:46   oh yeah yes so this chopper but Baron [TS]

01:11:48   dork i don't but bugbears are more [TS]

01:11:51   unusual than works [TS]

01:11:53   what about that racist to say a bug [TS]

01:11:56   bears more unusual than Rourke I'm using [TS]

01:11:58   all work for the same know obviously [TS]

01:12:00   there are the rock I who are big tough [TS]

01:12:03   works [TS]

01:12:04   I don't know what that is you got me on [TS]

01:12:05   that one come on her chi mikhay I don't [TS]

01:12:08   know that well there-there there-there [TS]

01:12:10   the super the the Solomon orcs good [TS]

01:12:14   works that is Lord of the Rings York's [TS]

01:12:17   it's arman makes him is it is a fact is [TS]

01:12:20   or oh ok alright I get it I get in there [TS]

01:12:22   kinda like Tolkien stormtroopers yeah [TS]

01:12:26   yeah the wall you give me the Rings to [TS]

01:12:29   the orcs John to work the risk it rings [TS]

01:12:31   I know that rings you got you got elves [TS]

01:12:35   got rings humans got rings the door [TS]

01:12:36   Scott rings some people got bring some [TS]

01:12:38   people didn't get rings right right [TS]

01:12:40   I you wouldn't give it a ringtone org is [TS]

01:12:44   throwing good money after bad but I [TS]

01:12:46   think the thing about the Rings is a lot [TS]

01:12:48   of different elves got rings are all [TS]

01:12:51   their Elvis rings right so they didn't [TS]

01:12:53   make a ring for I think the ring they [TS]

01:12:54   gave the humans in the ring they gave [TS]

01:12:56   the the dwarves were just like courtesy [TS]

01:12:58   rings oh they're just like promotional [TS]

01:13:00   rings or later the first ones they made [TS]

01:13:01   the world that was like the first [TS]

01:13:03   pancake [TS]

01:13:04   yeah the you have to give the first [TS]

01:13:05   thing to the human it's just like yeah [TS]

01:13:07   they should give the humans [TS]

01:13:08   Pickett's a little bit unfinished very [TS]

01:13:11   well but the am you know that the [TS]

01:13:13   dwarves probably provided the the gold [TS]

01:13:16   give them a little bit of its kickback [TS]

01:13:18   red dwarfs are minors right well see I'm [TS]

01:13:22   sorry I can't be racist again our night [TS]

01:13:23   I mean to other a lot of words to do a [TS]

01:13:26   lot of different things that are you can [TS]

01:13:27   be a pair you could be a paralegal [TS]

01:13:28   computer in advance right in veterinary [TS]

01:13:31   assistant Worf you know there's work at [TS]

01:13:33   the post office [TS]

01:13:34   we got it work at the post office [TS]

01:13:35   Dorfman's gotta get somewhere you need a [TS]

01:13:37   dwarf postal system there dwarves that [TS]

01:13:40   are working as emissaries there i'm sure [TS]

01:13:42   their diplomatic cord i think you're [TS]

01:13:44   going to get the flyers from the door [TS]

01:13:45   safeway at your house [TS]

01:13:47   exactly there dwarves that are [TS]

01:13:49   great-great-grandson of Thorin [TS]

01:13:51   Oakenshield who are sort of just living [TS]

01:13:54   off of their inheritance [TS]

01:13:56   they're like waste droid Thorin right [TS]

01:13:59   right so yeah so the I think some being [TS]

01:14:03   white-bearded dwarf gotta gotta ring but [TS]

01:14:06   it didn't know it was limited power ring [TS]

01:14:08   i think but i think like a demo look at [TS]

01:14:11   that I think I'm LMT of elves got like [TS]

01:14:14   some high-powered stuff I haven't read [TS]

01:14:16   the similarly and all the way through [TS]

01:14:17   there around three people in my [TS]

01:14:20   household two of which have read the [TS]

01:14:22   hobbit there are two people in my house [TS]

01:14:26   that have read talking book and I'm not [TS]

01:14:28   one of them [TS]

01:14:28   wait a minute 1i looking up with you [TS]

01:14:31   every year so just to remind you that [TS]

01:14:33   I've never read anything by talking and [TS]

01:14:35   I I like one of the movies [TS]

01:14:36   come on now seen others and you know I'm [TS]

01:14:38   not that guy usually i normally not that [TS]

01:14:40   guy just this is a fun outlier for me my [TS]

01:14:43   two big outliers are i'm not super [TS]

01:14:45   familiar star track and and I actually [TS]

01:14:48   I've tried a little bit of Hobbit but [TS]

01:14:50   the language of throws me off a little [TS]

01:14:51   bit but I'm I try I try some the actual [TS]

01:14:54   Hobbit Bobbit the hobbit book is easier [TS]

01:14:56   right that you will start the [TS]

01:14:58   silmarillion that's their metal machine [TS]

01:14:59   music you know you know yet i frankly [TS]

01:15:01   don't ever want to read the summary and [TS]

01:15:03   you just want to have Ted Leo read it to [TS]

01:15:05   you allowed that sounds so good but not [TS]

01:15:09   a habit is a children's book Lord of the [TS]

01:15:12   Rings is a is a masterwork but you have [TS]

01:15:16   read dune you've read all 40 dune books [TS]

01:15:19   know [TS]

01:15:20   I read slaughterhouse five a couple [TS]

01:15:22   times yeah can't wait to drink catch way [TS]

01:15:24   to I think I started that may be the [TS]

01:15:26   first half of that you didn't really [TS]

01:15:27   catch way to all the way through [TS]

01:15:29   I i skipped a lot of books then there's [TS]

01:15:33   some things I've read many many times [TS]

01:15:35   because of my interest in short fiction [TS]

01:15:36   there are many short stories that are [TS]

01:15:39   kind of my version of famous novels [TS]

01:15:41   because i read in so many times did you [TS]

01:15:42   read this [TS]

01:15:42   the short happy life of Francis Macomber [TS]

01:15:44   i did i've also read the abortion one [TS]

01:15:46   yeah how about the one where they throw [TS]

01:15:49   the rock so the rocks have read the [TS]

01:15:50   moment the rocks if you read the one [TS]

01:15:52   with the with the misfit where the [TS]

01:15:53   killer family at the end that's how my [TS]

01:15:54   daughter got named as i write my [TS]

01:15:56   daughter's middle name comes from that [TS]

01:15:58   she'd been a good woman if it had been [TS]

01:15:59   somebody the shooter every minute of our [TS]

01:16:00   life [TS]

01:16:01   what about the rapid gets really smart [TS]

01:16:03   oh I that's that movie with Michael [TS]

01:16:04   Jackson song in it all the racket get [TS]

01:16:07   some are you talking about talking about [TS]

01:16:09   the the cockroach man yeah the rescuers [TS]

01:16:11   were added rescuers were ya light on the [TS]

01:16:13   background signal the great mouse [TS]

01:16:15   detective I friend i've read so many of [TS]

01:16:17   those so many classics that today it's [TS]

01:16:19   so difficult even put your hand in these [TS]

01:16:20   books because get a stream it hard to [TS]

01:16:23   find [TS]

01:16:24   yeah you have to stream it yet it on [TS]

01:16:26   your kindle that requires that you [TS]

01:16:28   upgrade the amount of storage you have [TS]

01:16:31   on your dropbox yeah also john fisher [TS]

01:16:34   still assigned in still signed in [TS]

01:16:37   no no I left it logged me out and now I [TS]

01:16:40   forget what I forget which one of the [TS]

01:16:42   three passwords i use is one that I use [TS]

01:16:44   for that welcome you know what what's my [TS]

01:16:47   prompt was what was your clothes your [TS]

01:16:49   first pet was your mother's maiden name [TS]

01:16:51   oh sure thats that's hard to find out [TS]

01:16:53   yeah it really is super hard to find [TS]

01:16:56   that I am with your social security [TS]

01:16:57   number it's right there on your college [TS]

01:16:59   yeah you know our friend John turkey so [TS]

01:17:03   he gives me a little bit of a little bit [TS]

01:17:05   jazz because i don't actually help you [TS]

01:17:06   with these things [TS]

01:17:07   there's an application i can introduce [TS]

01:17:08   you to that would save you a lot of [TS]

01:17:09   aggravation with these things all the [TS]

01:17:11   thing what I have found is that in [TS]

01:17:13   situations like that what i need is to [TS]

01:17:15   download another app you're missing the [TS]

01:17:18   point the security questions are going [TS]

01:17:19   to bite you in the ask assets like me [TS]

01:17:21   ask anything about me ask me ask me ask [TS]

01:17:24   me a security question okay what was the [TS]

01:17:28   first time you masturbated [TS]

01:17:31   lovingly ask me another one [TS]

01:17:35   let's see what was the who is your least [TS]

01:17:40   favorite relative ok gleefully pick a [TS]

01:17:46   part of speech and use that for your [TS]

01:17:48   security questions and then record them [TS]

01:17:51   in the secure app never use an actual [TS]

01:17:53   noun never answer with a noun answer [TS]

01:17:55   with a different part of speech [TS]

01:17:56   gleefully I'm pie go with adverbs i try [TS]

01:17:59   to minimize my use of adverbs totally [TS]

01:18:01   avoid adverbs wherever I can and then a [TS]

01:18:04   thumbs up for security questions you [TS]

01:18:05   know what the other trick is that's not [TS]

01:18:07   my actual security answer [TS]

01:18:08   boom wanna see what I just did right [TS]

01:18:11   there i took in two directions at once I [TS]

01:18:12   took out two different vacations but [TS]

01:18:14   here's my here's my understanding of the [TS]

01:18:16   problem which is that no one is no one [TS]

01:18:18   is actually sitting down and trying to [TS]

01:18:20   figure out your security question it's [TS]

01:18:23   just some computer algorithm that's [TS]

01:18:24   really just call and say you know I [TS]

01:18:27   definitely John Roderick's whatever and [TS]

01:18:29   i'm having trouble getting into his [TS]

01:18:30   thing [TS]

01:18:31   yes yes I mean the executor of his [TS]

01:18:34   estate funnyman John's dead [TS]

01:18:37   uh but but nobody nobody's doing that [TS]

01:18:40   nobody's fishing like actually like what [TS]

01:18:43   was Merlin's home childhood address i [TS]

01:18:46   will not talk about this online i will [TS]

01:18:47   discuss with the offline [TS]

01:18:48   it's a harrowing problem is it a [TS]

01:18:50   harrowing problem so heroin is a kind of [TS]

01:18:53   fish right [TS]

01:18:55   yep yep yep harrowing ali also you can [TS]

01:18:57   get a like you get that Commodore Stuart [TS]

01:18:59   Lee and Richard harrowing you can have [TS]

01:19:01   all kinds of different fish fish and pin [TS]

01:19:03   cushion so this is actually a real [TS]

01:19:05   problem boy and you got out so I learned [TS]

01:19:08   about bugbears and orcs through Advanced [TS]

01:19:12   Dungeons and Dragons that's right Gary [TS]

01:19:14   Gygax is master work which is he stole a [TS]

01:19:18   lot from the Lord of the Rings so much [TS]

01:19:19   so that they that they filed an [TS]

01:19:21   injunction all is that I don't surprise [TS]

01:19:23   me at all but what's funny is i mean [TS]

01:19:24   there is stuff I did recognize but no [TS]

01:19:26   I'm like I'm like the worst kind of [TS]

01:19:28   weirdo because when i hear something [TS]

01:19:29   like I don't know I imagine a lot of it [TS]

01:19:31   comes vorpal blade imagine that comes [TS]

01:19:32   from someplace else [TS]

01:19:33   I got all the Arthurian stuff not all of [TS]

01:19:35   it but I understood there are three and [TS]

01:19:37   stuff i was more familiar i mean even [TS]

01:19:40   though i'm not a big Lovecraft reader i [TS]

01:19:42   was more familiar with the concept [TS]

01:19:43   concept of like [TS]

01:19:45   Lulu like a lot of my friends play [TS]

01:19:47   college cthulhu I realized that was from [TS]

01:19:48   the books but I didn't realize how much [TS]

01:19:51   of dnd like maybe even near the majority [TS]

01:19:55   of dnd comes from Lord of the Rings [TS]

01:19:56   right John [TS]

01:20:04   oh sorry i had my cough button on my god [TS]

01:20:09   i thought i had hopelessly offended you [TS]

01:20:11   with talking talk [TS]

01:20:12   no no III was hoisted by my own petard [TS]

01:20:15   I'll what kind of armor classes that [TS]

01:20:17   lets see that's plus 5 charisma is 5 [TS]

01:20:20   feet are I feel I feel like just like [TS]

01:20:22   all led zeppelin lyrics are derived from [TS]

01:20:24   Lord of the Rings so too is all dungeons [TS]

01:20:26   and dragons and honestly like eighty [TS]

01:20:28   percent of post token fantasy [TS]

01:20:31   yeah is just like what would happen if [TS]

01:20:34   we met what would happen i mean i think [TS]

01:20:35   a lot of people read Lord of the Rings [TS]

01:20:37   and what they really wanted was fanfic [TS]

01:20:41   of elves having sex and being naked [TS]

01:20:43   sure and so I think that that's [TS]

01:20:45   basically all of all fantasy writing is [TS]

01:20:48   just like the desire to have to watch [TS]

01:20:53   elves have sex [TS]

01:20:54   what do you think that's as widespread [TS]

01:20:57   as it is well you know elves are [TS]

01:21:03   unattainable and also willowy and [TS]

01:21:09   certain type of people like willow we [TS]

01:21:11   think that that's a beauty like a high [TS]

01:21:15   beauty standard willowy time like [TS]

01:21:17   slender hips slender hips sort of [TS]

01:21:19   androgynous unattainable and also never [TS]

01:21:26   die and boy there's a lot of people that [TS]

01:21:29   want to be that right unattainable [TS]

01:21:32   slender hips never die [TS]

01:21:33   oh yeah that's pretty much la right [TS]

01:21:35   there yeah exactly right i mean it's [TS]

01:21:37   it's it's fine Angeles is basically [TS]

01:21:39   about people who want to be else [TS]

01:21:40   sure if you look at a man you're like [TS]

01:21:42   right it's a it's basically she's an elf [TS]

01:21:45   and she's only here with us she is [TS]

01:21:49   absolutely i thought you I thought she [TS]

01:21:52   looked like i was describing her friend [TS]

01:21:53   is being like a gorgeous bird but I [TS]

01:21:55   think else might be better but she's an [TS]

01:21:57   elf and she's here to retrieve [TS]

01:21:59   if someone some ring that was given to [TS]

01:22:00   the dwarves manager she can't reveal it [TS]

01:22:03   now so so yeah I feel like that the [TS]

01:22:07   fanfic of elves it's like you remember [TS]

01:22:10   uh remember what was his name [TS]

01:22:12   Oklahoma the sex cat or Oklahoma sex can [TS]

01:22:17   rider's name was Dakota Omaha Omaha the [TS]

01:22:21   sex cat was it was no you didn't you [TS]

01:22:25   didn't you left me in the dust [TS]

01:22:28   I thought I was gonna get you this [TS]

01:22:34   episode but you got me yeah i know all [TS]

01:22:36   the sex scandal on the cat dancer [TS]

01:22:38   my hat is it almost 200 it's a furry [TS]

01:22:43   thing it's a fritz the cat [TS]

01:22:45   ok step fritz the cat was like bad [TS]

01:22:49   heroes like howard the duck but Omaha 26 [TS]

01:22:53   cat was a free thing but like what [TS]

01:22:57   but real early before freeze had been [TS]

01:22:59   identified and 19 1978 78 and it's just [TS]

01:23:03   like it's just like anthropomorphic cats [TS]

01:23:05   who who had a good hunches and there was [TS]

01:23:12   there i think probably for centuries [TS]

01:23:14   there have been people who were sitting [TS]

01:23:18   there in there in there comfortable [TS]

01:23:19   chair that have been made out of antlers [TS]

01:23:21   or whatever it was that people used to [TS]

01:23:22   sit in and a cat would walk by all proud [TS]

01:23:25   tail in the air and the person would say [TS]

01:23:28   the prehistoric person would say I [TS]

01:23:29   wonder how hard it would be to fuck [TS]

01:23:31   again it would probably pretty [TS]

01:23:34   hard-headed yourself you keep it to [TS]

01:23:36   yourself but you turn it over in your [TS]

01:23:37   mind a little bit yeah it's hard to even [TS]

01:23:38   pick up a cat and Pettit you're out [TS]

01:23:40   hunting and gathering and then maybe it [TS]

01:23:42   comes a little bit of an intrusive [TS]

01:23:43   thought you start you realize you're [TS]

01:23:44   thinking about how hard would be to fuck [TS]

01:23:46   at that comes up more and more in your [TS]

01:23:47   mom yeah you're out there you've got a [TS]

01:23:48   spirit hand here comes here comes a [TS]

01:23:50   muskox and you're like but your mind is [TS]

01:23:53   somewhere else minus thinking how hard [TS]

01:23:55   would it be to park at okay and then [TS]

01:23:57   hear that you missed the shot right now [TS]

01:23:59   you're like this is this is [TS]

01:24:01   disadvantageous so over the course of [TS]

01:24:04   time [TS]

01:24:04   how do you deal with how to deal with [TS]

01:24:06   that problem it's like if you want to if [TS]

01:24:08   you want to try to fuck a horse you can [TS]

01:24:10   probably get away with that horse or [TS]

01:24:12   we'll take it yeah that's not gonna take [TS]

01:24:13   it anyway we arrived at a place in 1978 [TS]

01:24:17   we're all these things that converged [TS]

01:24:20   and it was finally possible for somebody [TS]

01:24:21   to draw pictures of cats that you could [TS]

01:24:25   fuck ok and it was like a it was [TS]

01:24:27   transformative moment is a lot of people [TS]

01:24:29   were liberated and there were [TS]

01:24:31   comic-con's then [TS]

01:24:32   mhm and they went and they passed the [TS]

01:24:34   stuff around george RR martin was there [TS]

01:24:36   and they were like this see if i can [TS]

01:24:39   what do you think about that how about [TS]

01:24:40   that huh [TS]

01:24:41   and then a whole that whole world [TS]

01:24:43   exploded and then pretty soon you've got [TS]

01:24:45   these Syrian kids in a hotel in [TS]

01:24:47   vancouver yeah and they're dancing [TS]

01:24:49   they're dancing with a bunch of people [TS]

01:24:51   dressed like like fuckable cats who [TS]

01:24:54   could have predicted that is that in the [TS]

01:24:55   Bible is that a video you didn't he [TS]

01:24:58   didn't see this they they better a whole [TS]

01:25:01   bunch of anything you get a different [TS]

01:25:02   internet than I hit a bunch of refugee [TS]

01:25:04   families from Syria arrived they went to [TS]

01:25:07   the furry festival and the furries came [TS]

01:25:09   out and dance with the children in the [TS]

01:25:10   lobby [TS]

01:25:11   yeah they were put in the same hotel [TS]

01:25:12   it's like oh we're putting you up in [TS]

01:25:13   this great hotel [TS]

01:25:14   welcome to the welcome to North America [TS]

01:25:17   I did sound you know what I did see a [TS]

01:25:19   photo of that yes [TS]

01:25:20   nobody's gonna be bombing you anymore [TS]

01:25:21   the Russians are gonna be bothering you [TS]

01:25:23   anymore [TS]

01:25:23   oh and also your hope your hotel is full [TS]

01:25:25   of Ferraris yes like what a magical [TS]

01:25:27   adventure [TS]

01:25:29   none of that would have been possible [TS]

01:25:30   without Omaha the sex can do they make [TS]

01:25:33   the outfits in a way that accommodates [TS]

01:25:36   the idea that they might want to have [TS]

01:25:37   intercourse with each other [TS]

01:25:39   I'm do I mean is it because you think [TS]

01:25:41   about like a like a underwear thing [TS]

01:25:43   yeah and like there's some people who [TS]

01:25:44   want to have sex with people in [TS]

01:25:45   underwear some people want people to [TS]

01:25:47   wear underwear then take the underwear [TS]

01:25:48   off and they have sex with a person with [TS]

01:25:50   no underwear yeah does I mean like you [TS]

01:25:53   know what I'm not going further with [TS]

01:25:55   this because if I ask people tell me i [TS]

01:25:57   believe that a greater percentage of [TS]

01:26:00   people want to want to have their cake [TS]

01:26:04   and eat it too in the sense that they [TS]

01:26:06   want to but they want the other person [TS]

01:26:07   to keep their underwear on but also be [TS]

01:26:10   able to have sex [TS]

01:26:11   yeah that's why all of this complicated [TS]

01:26:13   underwear that's true right like this if [TS]

01:26:16   if you just took the underwear off then [TS]

01:26:18   all underwear would just be sort of [TS]

01:26:19   bloomers right [TS]

01:26:21   you get the complicated underwear and [TS]

01:26:23   then you have it you get this cake and [TS]

01:26:25   eat it too situation [TS]

01:26:27   yeah anything you want if you want to be [TS]

01:26:29   a cake that somebody could eat so to [TS]

01:26:32   speak you're gonna have to come up with [TS]

01:26:33   some kind of a class or something you [TS]

01:26:34   have to come up with some way to have a [TS]

01:26:36   slice cut out of the cake with somebody [TS]

01:26:37   gets you in a way that they could eat [TS]

01:26:38   you you're talking about a workaround [TS]

01:26:39   sure Cheryl thinking about think about [TS]

01:26:42   all of the ways that the under the [TS]

01:26:44   increasingly modern underwear is just a [TS]

01:26:47   workaround well because the thing is you [TS]

01:26:48   get something that is clunky as what has [TS]

01:26:50   been called crotchless panties I don't [TS]

01:26:52   know who wants these things [TS]

01:26:53   no that's a terrible idea but you can [TS]

01:26:54   also just look at the idea of the [TS]

01:26:56   missing the garter belt the cartridge [TS]

01:26:58   belt is a way to have fun and fancy [TS]

01:26:59   underwear that's only kind of really [TS]

01:27:00   underwear [TS]

01:27:01   it's not like you're wearing a swimsuit [TS]

01:27:02   or something well the garter belt as a [TS]

01:27:04   the greater built as a way of keeping [TS]

01:27:06   your weird pantyhose that was invented [TS]

01:27:09   before elastic yeah that was the sort of [TS]

01:27:13   functional thing that became [TS]

01:27:14   increasingly fetishized you know went [TS]

01:27:16   from being a girdle to being this weird [TS]

01:27:18   set of ropes and now who wears a [TS]

01:27:22   freaking garterbelt except as a sex [TS]

01:27:25   device right hand corner posts are very [TS]

01:27:28   confusing for people because I don't [TS]

01:27:30   they don't look good on me people well [TS]

01:27:33   and they're very confusing to wear like [TS]

01:27:34   I have seen people this is just I mean [TS]

01:27:37   that's known a lot of people i'm sure [TS]

01:27:40   who believe that the garter belt is [TS]

01:27:43   meant to be fastened sort of above the [TS]

01:27:45   belly button somewhere at the narrowest [TS]

01:27:47   part of the of the of the waist [TS]

01:27:51   that's it that's an unusual look which [TS]

01:27:52   is not where they belong and it made [TS]

01:27:54   they look very much more like a girdle [TS]

01:27:56   or bloomers or look like a profit fell [TS]

01:27:59   down if you want that high [TS]

01:28:01   yeah they look like tripods from the [TS]

01:28:03   book tripods boy sounds face is I think [TS]

01:28:08   that's it is the do what do you think [TS]

01:28:10   those things were tripods tripods from [TS]

01:28:13   white a big penis joke no okay well [TS]

01:28:16   that's a that's like a I mean basically [TS]

01:28:19   all of all of contemporary science [TS]

01:28:20   fiction comes from movie tripods are the [TS]

01:28:23   book tripod okay why don't I look that [TS]

01:28:25   up [TS]

01:28:25   tripods White Mountains okay um but so [TS]

01:28:28   garter belts in my estimation are meant [TS]

01:28:31   to be worn you know down on the hip [TS]

01:28:34   yes this is just a little advice I'm [TS]

01:28:35   giving to our listeners who are a people [TS]

01:28:37   a lot of frustration who are in New [TS]

01:28:39   Zealand and all of their underwear is [TS]

01:28:40   made of sheepskin but I'm sorry sheep [TS]

01:28:45   fur and sheepskin this not animals rose [TS]

01:28:48   but it should get the monarch for that [TS]

01:28:50   remember which ones for anywhere which [TS]

01:28:52   was for condoms [TS]

01:28:53   yeah right the underwear yeah red skies [TS]

01:28:56   at night [TS]

01:28:57   remember we're right right it's guys at [TS]

01:29:00   morning I she breaks up with you because [TS]

01:29:03   you gave her garter belt for Christmas [TS]

01:29:05   that's the mnemonic I had given gardai [TS]

01:29:07   gave a garter belt once did you really [TS]

01:29:09   yeah she's real good sport about it but [TS]

01:29:10   is before I learned about people men [TS]

01:29:13   women in particular and I might I don't [TS]

01:29:15   know what I might as well have I might [TS]

01:29:16   as well have gotten her a penis pump [TS]

01:29:19   like no happy Valentine's Day [TS]

01:29:21   yeah it's like going into a store and [TS]

01:29:23   buying your girlfriend spanks haha [TS]

01:29:27   alright i was in a store number let's [TS]

01:29:29   get it right get a broom and some diet [TS]

01:29:31   pills [TS]

01:29:31   yeah it's like it's like Christmastime [TS]

01:29:33   what about these Spanx and every woman [TS]

01:29:35   in the store like six different people [TS]

01:29:38   two of them working in the store and [TS]

01:29:40   four of them just customers they all [TS]

01:29:43   turned around at once and they were like [TS]

01:29:44   do not by anyone spanks yeah I was like [TS]

01:29:48   really I keep hearing about it there's [TS]

01:29:50   that they're on TV and they all said [TS]

01:29:53   they all agreed listen Spanx are things [TS]

01:29:55   that a woman buys herself [TS]

01:29:56   there's no she and she wants them she [TS]

01:29:58   gets it for missing you wouldn't give [TS]

01:30:00   her tampons not same way but a similar [TS]

01:30:03   way of like you know what if they that's [TS]

01:30:05   something I might need that I can do on [TS]

01:30:06   my own [TS]

01:30:07   yeah and it feels a little weird for you [TS]

01:30:09   give me that my my wife one time a [TS]

01:30:11   mother's boyfriend of hers gave her [TS]

01:30:14   towels and towels and soap for Christmas [TS]

01:30:16   me to this day we continue to argue [TS]

01:30:18   about whether that was a [TS]

01:30:19   passive-aggressive gift [TS]

01:30:20   yeah that feels pretty mean right now my [TS]

01:30:22   wife is very clean you would only do [TS]

01:30:24   that to be cool right now would you give [TS]

01:30:26   someone why would I mean issues like [TS]

01:30:28   they were really nice soaps I like still [TS]

01:30:30   I would never give anybody soap and it [TS]

01:30:32   helped for christmas i mean i-i I think [TS]

01:30:35   it's the towel that turns it into an [TS]

01:30:36   insult because i have i've been buying [TS]

01:30:38   the last several years I've been buying [TS]

01:30:40   like $24 bottles are bars of soap that [TS]

01:30:44   smell like friends if you know what [TS]

01:30:46   people like that can be a nice [TS]

01:30:47   gift yeah you're buying a nice but I [TS]

01:30:49   candle a candle can be a real fuckup [TS]

01:30:51   gift if you don't know what you're doing [TS]

01:30:52   but if you know that person like me I [TS]

01:30:53   enjoy the smell of lemon verbena if you [TS]

01:30:55   give me something smells like lemon [TS]

01:30:56   verbena I'm a happy camper but don't [TS]

01:30:59   well the thing about lemon verbena is it [TS]

01:31:01   makes it seem like you're camping [TS]

01:31:02   because it smells like mosquito replying [TS]

01:31:04   now it's so nice and put on a belt but [TS]

01:31:07   so the thing about the number-one [TS]

01:31:08   confusion about garter belts i think is [TS]

01:31:10   to wear the panties on the insider to [TS]

01:31:12   wear the pants on the outside is that [TS]

01:31:13   even a question [TS]

01:31:14   it is a big question because panties on [TS]

01:31:18   the outside looks dumb but you can't [TS]

01:31:22   take the panties down to go to the potty [TS]

01:31:24   shanis on the inside look better but in [TS]

01:31:28   order to get the panties off [TS]

01:31:29   you have to have a master's degree in [TS]

01:31:31   engineering yeah that's like a natural [TS]

01:31:32   thing like that [TS]

01:31:33   yeah I see what you're saying so what so [TS]

01:31:35   there are lots and lots of people in the [TS]

01:31:37   garter belt community [TS]

01:31:39   let's say you gotta wear the panties on [TS]

01:31:41   the outside otherwise it's not [TS]

01:31:42   functional [TS]

01:31:43   otherwise it's just like some kind of if [TS]

01:31:44   you're a person who if you're a person [TS]

01:31:46   who is wearing the garter belt because [TS]

01:31:48   it makes you feel sexy and it makes you [TS]

01:31:51   want to do sexy things while you're [TS]

01:31:53   wearing it then you could choose to have [TS]

01:31:55   the panties on the outside and that's a [TS]

01:31:56   very forward-thinking sort of decision I [TS]

01:31:58   think giving somebody too many notes [TS]

01:32:00   especially as your partner right the [TS]

01:32:02   order in which they should put on their [TS]

01:32:03   underwear you can run into trouble for [TS]

01:32:06   sure because if you if if you are seeing [TS]

01:32:08   sexy undergarments for the first time [TS]

01:32:10   and the first thing out of your mouth is [TS]

01:32:11   how do you go to the potty [TS]

01:32:13   yeah that's not my first question yeah [TS]

01:32:15   that's not gonna be that's not a bad [TS]

01:32:17   mood enhancer right unless you're [TS]

01:32:21   Germany I was I've been avoiding at this [TS]

01:32:24   entire time I've been utterly avoid I've [TS]

01:32:26   been avoiding it [TS]

01:32:28   yeah yeah I know is everything we're [TS]

01:32:29   saying here goes triple for germany it [TS]

01:32:31   slow it's low-hanging fruit which is [TS]

01:32:33   another thing in Germany they're very [TS]

01:32:35   interested in all nice and long like a [TS]

01:32:37   lemon party should they call it a lemon [TS]

01:32:39   verbena it's a but they say with a [TS]

01:32:41   German accent remember being finished i [TS]

01:32:44   said uh so this is all very it's all for [TS]

01:32:47   many many years of so let me tell you [TS]

01:32:49   what yes one time when I was when I was [TS]

01:32:52   very grungy I back in the day when all [TS]

01:32:56   of my jeans were over died [TS]

01:32:59   remember that time there was a second [TS]

01:33:01   time in the United super-dark know you [TS]

01:33:04   take a pair of jeans like a normal pair [TS]

01:33:05   of jeans yeah but then you'd put them in [TS]

01:33:07   the washing machine with a canister of [TS]

01:33:09   rip.gov they were like green or blue [TS]

01:33:13   oh yeah thank you I think I do remember [TS]

01:33:16   this yeah like you put you put some [TS]

01:33:18   green ribbed I in with your Levi's and [TS]

01:33:20   then you somebody had green levis and [TS]

01:33:22   that was really that was a cool thing [TS]

01:33:24   and I had a lot of overdyed clothes [TS]

01:33:26   jeans like a jean jacket that had had a [TS]

01:33:29   brown bottle of brownrigg died i'm [TS]

01:33:32   seeing this and again you can get some [TS]

01:33:34   he gained from it [TS]

01:33:35   oh you get killer he gay but it's long [TS]

01:33:37   and i had a pair of jeans and apparently [TS]

01:33:38   buys that last me 20 years because they [TS]

01:33:40   had been over died and even though the [TS]

01:33:43   dye made no difference right it's not [TS]

01:33:45   like it added a layer of fabric but I [TS]

01:33:48   was convinced that the fact that these [TS]

01:33:49   had been overdyed meant somehow had some [TS]

01:33:53   effect on them so that they lasted for [TS]

01:33:56   20 years which pair of jeans should not [TS]

01:33:58   but so I was schlepping around in my [TS]

01:34:01   overdyed jeans and my big carhartt [TS]

01:34:04   jacket and my be no my hoodie on top of [TS]

01:34:07   a hoodie and at that point you know my [TS]

01:34:11   soul patch was down on dragging on the [TS]

01:34:13   ground like floors okay my love ya know [TS]

01:34:16   can open beard jam a whole don't want to [TS]

01:34:19   WoW and I want him up this the market up [TS]

01:34:22   a hill in seattle and there's a little [TS]

01:34:24   gal in front of me who's a who's my age [TS]

01:34:27   Right see 25 and she's dressed [TS]

01:34:32   impeccably like like downtown business [TS]

01:34:36   and her her pencil skirt all which has [TS]

01:34:43   which is like gray flannel pinstripe is [TS]

01:34:47   just it's business right but it's just I [TS]

01:34:52   would say one quarter of a millimeter [TS]

01:34:55   short short too short for business not [TS]

01:35:01   too short for me [TS]

01:35:03   mhm just right in the zone uh-huh [TS]

01:35:06   she's wearing a little business outfit [TS]

01:35:07   and she's and she just looks in and just [TS]

01:35:09   amazing and she's walking ahead of me up [TS]

01:35:11   this hill [TS]

01:35:11   and I'm like what in what world does a [TS]

01:35:15   person like this exists because i'm down [TS]

01:35:18   here [TS]

01:35:19   shama lama hey and I'm thinking that I'm [TS]

01:35:22   at the top of the game of being 25 how [TS]

01:35:26   much more top of the game of being 25 is [TS]

01:35:29   their right and but she's in this other [TS]

01:35:32   world and we're walking up the hill and [TS]

01:35:33   then you know that she's in high heels [TS]

01:35:36   obviously and she increases our pace [TS]

01:35:39   just a little bit she's completely [TS]

01:35:40   unaware mean and I catch a glimpse of [TS]

01:35:43   the fact that she is not wearing [TS]

01:35:44   pantyhose she's wearing stockings and [TS]

01:35:47   they are as a time in my life that would [TS]

01:35:49   that would take me down for a couple [TS]

01:35:50   weeks [TS]

01:35:51   well this is the thing that little clips [TS]

01:35:52   on them yeah and and it's just you know [TS]

01:35:54   it's not like her skirt hiked up or [TS]

01:35:56   anything it was just like just slightest [TS]

01:35:59   glimpse you see that the dark band of [TS]

01:36:01   the top of the stocking and then just [TS]

01:36:03   for a second and I had to stop by stop [TS]

01:36:07   by stop walking i took Annie uh huh and [TS]

01:36:09   here it is now 20 years later I'm still [TS]

01:36:12   talking about it not to everybody [TS]

01:36:14   I'm talking about in my own head I've [TS]

01:36:16   had that I've I still have some of those [TS]

01:36:17   in my mind right now like whether what [TS]

01:36:19   who is she [TS]

01:36:20   what other what other world was she [TS]

01:36:21   living in madurai that any of us i [TS]

01:36:23   looked down at my overdye jeans just [TS]

01:36:25   turned to ashes [TS]

01:36:26   she's Konrad Lorenz and you're the duct [TS]

01:36:28   I'm the freaking dr. the document [TS]

01:36:30   printed on her so and i have no idea [TS]

01:36:34   11 time in the same era I was standing [TS]

01:36:37   on a street corner and a guy walked by [TS]

01:36:40   me you know handsome guy my size walks [TS]

01:36:46   past me and he was wearing some sort of [TS]

01:36:48   a part foam of some sort and as he [TS]

01:36:53   walked past and ricotta i caught a whiff [TS]

01:36:55   of his part foam I was like oh I want to [TS]

01:37:00   fuck that guy and I didn't know what I [TS]

01:37:03   didn't know how to process it so I [TS]

01:37:04   started following him I was like all [TS]

01:37:06   right I don't want I don't know what to [TS]

01:37:07   do now i really want to have sex with [TS]

01:37:10   this guy which isn't typically my with [TS]

01:37:12   like sex pointer [TS]

01:37:15   yeah but something about his part form [TS]

01:37:17   something something this is you know [TS]

01:37:20   this is a necklace moments that snap [TS]

01:37:22   together like magnets so I followed him [TS]

01:37:24   too much less interested in [TS]

01:37:25   trying to explain to yourself then you [TS]

01:37:26   are going where do i get that the fellow [TS]

01:37:28   with the part phone [TS]

01:37:29   yeah I had no interest in explaining it [TS]

01:37:30   to myself I had every interested in [TS]

01:37:32   following him until some sort of sort of [TS]

01:37:35   rendezvous could be arranged yes but [TS]

01:37:38   then it was obvious that now I'm just [TS]

01:37:40   following him and that seems weird but I [TS]

01:37:43   have wondered and once I broke off i've [TS]

01:37:46   eard you know I was like sure disengaged [TS]

01:37:48   is what i did they you know that he flew [TS]

01:37:50   back over the over libya and I you know [TS]

01:37:54   how to avoid the airspace and I went [TS]

01:37:56   back to i went back and i did a flyover [TS]

01:37:58   and and spilled the coffee of the guy [TS]

01:38:00   that's driving the boat he said down [TS]

01:38:03   that maverick [TS]

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