Roderick on the Line

Ep. 171: "A Weiner-Shaped Hole"


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00:00:34   hello I John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:38   good how are you going I'm going i just [TS]

00:00:42   had a lot of ramen really fast are you [TS]

00:00:44   doing some podcasting today i have three [TS]

00:00:47   podcast today [TS]

00:00:48   wow I do like two back-to-back do you [TS]

00:00:53   think that we have reached peak podcast [TS]

00:00:55   go and we reach peak podcast from the [TS]

00:00:57   first podcast came out that's all you [TS]

00:00:59   haha i don't know you're you're you're [TS]

00:01:02   on so many programs now [TS]

00:01:03   yeah i'm hoping to be i'm hoping to took [TS]

00:01:07   to like presage the peak post pogchamp [TS]

00:01:11   podcast you maybe you'll be the last [TS]

00:01:13   great podcaster would not be nice you [TS]

00:01:16   should you should you should edit one of [TS]

00:01:17   these and put it out put it together [TS]

00:01:18   sometime that be fun for you it'd be [TS]

00:01:20   nice to be remembered for something [TS]

00:01:22   oh yeah he was the last great podcaster [TS]

00:01:26   em everyone lets out last starfighter i [TS]

00:01:31   don't know i don't want to edit a [TS]

00:01:32   podcast I don't think neither do i em [TS]

00:01:36   it's not nearly as sexy as it sounds it [TS]

00:01:39   does sound pretty sexy I've always [TS]

00:01:41   imagined lonely sandwich sitting in his [TS]

00:01:43   lonely Garrett surrounded by screens and [TS]

00:01:49   putting together you look nice today's [TS]

00:01:51   back in the golden era the governor's he [TS]

00:01:54   would spend hours and hours and hours [TS]

00:01:56   yeah yeah I got faster over time but [TS]

00:01:59   yeah he would [TS]

00:02:00   he spent an improbably large amount of [TS]

00:02:02   time on this lot of romance in it well [TS]

00:02:04   so do you feel like you still have [TS]

00:02:05   podcasting in your ya know do it i don't [TS]

00:02:08   care how was your podcast reservoir [TS]

00:02:10   right now is it full of great stories [TS]

00:02:12   and great memories [TS]

00:02:14   oh we had some times didn't we haha up [TS]

00:02:17   what's easy with you because you always [TS]

00:02:19   you always got a new angle you've always [TS]

00:02:21   got a new thing [TS]

00:02:22   yeah oh yeah always a thing you know the [TS]

00:02:25   king of China's in Seattle today [TS]

00:02:27   oh my god things are crazy right now [TS]

00:02:29   yeah with the China has a king I didn't [TS]

00:02:31   know that r is it not a king private [TS]

00:02:33   from major premier Premier primary air [TS]

00:02:37   from a overlay or a prime minister a [TS]

00:02:40   chief chief chief poobah things are [TS]

00:02:44   crazy and you got you got the addy I you [TS]

00:02:46   get the pontiff [TS]

00:02:47   coming to the east coast everybody's [TS]

00:02:49   iphones are gonna be arriving late [TS]

00:02:51   yeah i mean the traffic in seattle is [TS]

00:02:52   already but the backing up from the Pope [TS]

00:02:55   visiting all the way [TS]

00:02:58   yeah well because yeah it's causing a [TS]

00:03:00   major traffic jam back east and that [TS]

00:03:01   just has a ripple effect santacon [TS]

00:03:03   additive quality it's the to the [TS]

00:03:06   butterfly and Charlie geometric [TS]

00:03:08   butterflies [TS]

00:03:09   yeah maybe one thing another thing now [TS]

00:03:12   that's exciting and so-and-so YC there [TS]

00:03:15   ah well there's a little thing you may [TS]

00:03:18   have heard of I don't know if it gets [TS]

00:03:19   all the way down to San Francisco but we [TS]

00:03:21   call the Pacific Rim which is our the [TS]

00:03:24   rim around the Pacific where you would [TS]

00:03:27   basically where you would snap the lid [TS]

00:03:29   on the Pacific if it came with a lid [TS]

00:03:32   oh ok ok so it's a rim and we also call [TS]

00:03:36   it it's like the ring of fire [TS]

00:03:38   that's another word for it because it's [TS]

00:03:40   a rim of volcanoes are in conference [TS]

00:03:43   happening so it's some kind of rim [TS]

00:03:45   conference this isn't the big rim [TS]

00:03:47   conference they haven't had one of those [TS]

00:03:48   in a while but this is some kind of [TS]

00:03:50   trade deal where we're Seattle a city of [TS]

00:03:54   700,000 people gets to pretend for a [TS]

00:03:58   minute that anyone in China has ever [TS]

00:04:02   heard of it or that it is that it even [TS]

00:04:05   ranks in the top 80 cities in China [TS]

00:04:09   I mean by the time you get down to [TS]

00:04:11   chinese cities that have 700,000 people [TS]

00:04:13   you're basically like at the level i [TS]

00:04:16   mean like the 700,000 person cities in [TS]

00:04:19   China are the ones that make straws [TS]

00:04:21   Chinese amulet it's like drinking straw [TS]

00:04:25   city drinking straw to do that electron [TS]

00:04:27   they have specializations by different [TS]

00:04:29   areas right and socially yet that i [TS]

00:04:31   believe it is and so maybe from the [TS]

00:04:33   straw district you from straw district [TS]

00:04:35   or you're from paper clip down or you're [TS]

00:04:37   from something like that you know car [TS]

00:04:39   like you like turtle wax villa and if [TS]

00:04:44   you live in Turtle Wax Villa that's a [TS]

00:04:46   city of a million and a half people and [TS]

00:04:48   everyone there worked works making [TS]

00:04:50   turtle wax but [TS]

00:04:52   just as we like to think that we won [TS]

00:04:53   World War two even though by the time [TS]

00:04:56   the first American arrived in Europe [TS]

00:04:58   something like 80 million Russians had [TS]

00:05:02   already died [TS]

00:05:03   oh my god we also like to think that we [TS]

00:05:06   are up [TS]

00:05:07   Seattle is some kind of economic [TS]

00:05:08   powerhouse of the pacific rim where it's [TS]

00:05:12   just like you know there are 300 million [TS]

00:05:14   Americans and their and that is a [TS]

00:05:16   rounding error in the population of [TS]

00:05:19   error that the video i think i did the [TS]

00:05:22   video about deaths in world war two was [TS]

00:05:25   all like visualized oh yeah that was [TS]

00:05:27   interesting i liked I liked the guy you [TS]

00:05:30   know that that kind of like take some [TS]

00:05:32   data turn it into a a video podcast hope [TS]

00:05:37   it goes viral [TS]

00:05:38   I like that that business model that was [TS]

00:05:40   very well made and it really makes the [TS]

00:05:43   point that you're describing which is [TS]

00:05:44   first of all you know we were not in the [TS]

00:05:46   war super early [TS]

00:05:48   no that's not a war happen before we got [TS]

00:05:50   involved yeah we like we were on the [TS]

00:05:52   sidelines kind of not really i mean we [TS]

00:05:54   were cheering certainly but it wasn't [TS]

00:05:56   clear like we don't want to cheer too [TS]

00:05:58   loud [TS]

00:05:58   we didn't want the other kids to feel [TS]

00:05:59   bad that wasn't what is it how many was [TS]

00:06:01   a 20 million Russians well it's hard [TS]

00:06:04   it's hard to say because you really [TS]

00:06:06   can't and i can count it right yeah this [TS]

00:06:08   is the thing about Mao to its like the [TS]

00:06:11   famine deaths like how do you count the [TS]

00:06:14   famine deaths by the people that go in [TS]

00:06:16   gulags yeah you you lose ten million to [TS]

00:06:19   famine that's it's happening [TS]

00:06:22   concurrently with the war it's happening [TS]

00:06:24   because of decisions made by the same [TS]

00:06:26   people but you really love it in you [TS]

00:06:29   know that's it's a lot harder to count [TS]

00:06:30   those two because everybody starves and [TS]

00:06:33   they just sort of they know they wander [TS]

00:06:35   off in a field and die and the census [TS]

00:06:37   guys are really like standing there [TS]

00:06:41   well this is a depressing page you think [TS]

00:06:44   it's called World War two casualties on [TS]

00:06:46   the wikipedia oh yeah that's a that's a [TS]

00:06:49   that is a fun one isn't it because that [TS]

00:06:51   they break it down [TS]

00:06:53   I mean you know the number of people [TS]

00:06:54   that died in the Ukraine alone or our [TS]

00:06:57   belarus we just don't really think about [TS]

00:07:00   the sacrifices that were made [TS]

00:07:03   there and they were really making those [TS]

00:07:05   sacrifices on behalf of Liberty they [TS]

00:07:08   were just being sacrificed let's just [TS]

00:07:11   call it what it is right this is that [TS]

00:07:13   one of the columns is deaths as a [TS]

00:07:17   percentage of the 1939 population m and [TS]

00:07:21   it's sitting pretty [TS]

00:07:23   poland 16 around seventeen percent of [TS]

00:07:26   the population m amazing like like 16 [TS]

00:07:30   people a lot of people dressing so well [TS]

00:07:33   you know so I mean seattle in the grand [TS]

00:07:38   scheme of things really doesn't matter [TS]

00:07:41   to anybody [TS]

00:07:43   don't talk crazy except for people who [TS]

00:07:45   live in Portland you got coffee [TS]

00:07:48   you got that you got grunge so that we [TS]

00:07:51   can pnp Boeing oh god you got Boeing see [TS]

00:07:55   Boeing matters people pay attention to [TS]

00:07:56   Boeing got 13 coins not for much longer [TS]

00:08:00   know what tell me [TS]

00:08:02   well there apparently the building that [TS]

00:08:04   13 coins in the 13th chords kind of its [TS]

00:08:07   it's strange it's part of it is in the [TS]

00:08:10   building that is currently occupied by [TS]

00:08:11   the seattle times and that building is [TS]

00:08:14   state but on either side of the Seattle [TS]

00:08:16   Times building this plan to tear tear [TS]

00:08:19   the other buildings down including most [TS]

00:08:21   of the 13 coins and put in a residential [TS]

00:08:25   tower got whoa i'm gonna move [TS]

00:08:29   well there is a 13 coins there's a [TS]

00:08:31   second 13 coins out by the airport so [TS]

00:08:35   for 14 to 26 coin if the hey if they [TS]

00:08:38   tear the one that were used to go into [TS]

00:08:40   down we can always go i've started going [TS]

00:08:42   out to the airport one anyway because [TS]

00:08:43   it's it just taking somebody to dinner [TS]

00:08:48   in the middle of the night out by the [TS]

00:08:50   airport just has an extra layer of kind [TS]

00:08:53   of greasy CD it just feels i'm going to [TS]

00:08:59   13 coins was always meant to feel a [TS]

00:09:01   little bit pornographic [TS]

00:09:04   and then you need dislocate that to [TS]

00:09:07   seatac and it just starts 2012 the amine [TS]

00:09:11   yeah everybody's crossing on crossing [TS]

00:09:14   their legs really open 24 hours [TS]

00:09:16   yeah look at its menu you can get a [TS]

00:09:18   steak Oscar at like four in the morning [TS]

00:09:22   you can get veal parmesan for in the [TS]

00:09:24   morning looking liver and onions [TS]

00:09:26   no problem mmm steak Sinatra sir served [TS]

00:09:30   on the trashcan lid will then wipes off [TS]

00:09:33   with that I've seen you put away some [TS]

00:09:37   food in that place [TS]

00:09:38   oh hell yes you know I'm a little thing [TS]

00:09:42   yeah I don't know this is ever really [TS]

00:09:43   really come up in the mythology of John [TS]

00:09:46   and I don't I don't say this is a high [TS]

00:09:48   citizen you you finish everyone else's [TS]

00:09:50   food and try and try again i don't want [TS]

00:09:56   but the thing about me is I like a [TS]

00:09:58   smorgasbord [TS]

00:09:59   mmm burgas lord are you like a [TS]

00:10:01   smorgasbord sports in the sense that if [TS]

00:10:06   there is a plate if there's a hit on any [TS]

00:10:09   menu if there's a sampler plate that [TS]

00:10:12   isn't of like the fried cheese sampler [TS]

00:10:14   yeah right like you go into a place and [TS]

00:10:16   it's like--go appetizer sampler it's [TS]

00:10:18   just like gross just undifferentiated [TS]

00:10:20   golden-brown fried things [TS]

00:10:22   yeah but i but i like to try a little [TS]

00:10:23   bit of everything so if they're if [TS]

00:10:25   there's ever like a you know one of each [TS]

00:10:28   kind of oyster or one of each kind of [TS]

00:10:31   stuffed pepper so you know I'll always [TS]

00:10:34   get the always get the the sampler and [TS]

00:10:37   and the best sampler ball is the little [TS]

00:10:40   bit of food that everybody leaves on [TS]

00:10:41   their plate at the end of a meal because [TS]

00:10:43   you go around here like oh you add the [TS]

00:10:45   lemon the lemon pasta and you had the [TS]

00:10:48   you know you have calamari steak Supreme [TS]

00:10:50   yeah you got a little bit of this a [TS]

00:10:51   little of that and so but i but i but [TS]

00:10:54   I've learned over time you know you have [TS]

00:10:57   to ask you can't just put your fork on [TS]

00:10:58   somebody else's plate and also you wait [TS]

00:11:00   until they're did they're clearly done [TS]

00:11:02   this you're telling me there's a sort of [TS]

00:11:05   like it like an ethics of them finishing [TS]

00:11:07   yeah because a lot of people you know [TS]

00:11:09   they want to eat at their own pace they [TS]

00:11:11   object to somebody kind of you know [TS]

00:11:15   and I have understandably they object to [TS]

00:11:17   somebody like vulturing and for that I'm [TS]

00:11:20   making like a bird of prey that and so [TS]

00:11:23   but you but you do want to secure your [TS]

00:11:25   rights to their leftovers before they a [TS]

00:11:29   throw their napkin down on their plate [TS]

00:11:32   because then you're like oh i was gonna [TS]

00:11:34   see if you wanted that or a conversely [TS]

00:11:38   the people that you know and again it's [TS]

00:11:40   their right to do it it's their meal but [TS]

00:11:42   if they want to take it home you can't [TS]

00:11:46   really like can really lay claim to [TS]

00:11:49   their leftovers if they're if they have [TS]

00:11:51   a plan for them already [TS]

00:11:52   you have to sort of politely call [TS]

00:11:53   Shotgun yeah you have to sort of waits [TS]

00:11:56   until a appropriate amount of time has [TS]

00:11:59   passed [TS]

00:11:59   um thankfully nobody smokes in [TS]

00:12:02   restaurants anymore so you don't have to [TS]

00:12:03   i mean the number of wonderful [TS]

00:12:05   half-eaten veal parmesan is that were [TS]

00:12:07   ruined by somebody putting their [TS]

00:12:09   cigarette out in it it leads to do that [TS]

00:12:11   I totally get that but their cigarette [TS]

00:12:13   out right in the center of the plate and [TS]

00:12:16   I would be like god i was i was trying [TS]

00:12:19   to gracefully I your food without [TS]

00:12:22   without you know going right up to it [TS]

00:12:25   without going over so it is a technique [TS]

00:12:29   but looking for instance this weekend I [TS]

00:12:30   went camping with some friends and a one [TS]

00:12:36   of the guys that was going with us owns [TS]

00:12:38   a restaurant so it was sort of presumed [TS]

00:12:41   by everybody that he was going to you [TS]

00:12:43   know be the chef and he brought some he [TS]

00:12:46   brought a pork Lowen he brought some [TS]

00:12:49   Cajun shrimps he had some food prepared [TS]

00:12:54   but I was a little bit like so I mean [TS]

00:12:57   we're going camping know like where the [TS]

00:12:59   wieners where's the right gonna want [TS]

00:13:01   some wieners to it was like well i got [TS]

00:13:04   this pork loin was like well yeah sure [TS]

00:13:06   we're going to eat the pork loin and the [TS]

00:13:09   cajun shrimp but it's a camping trip we [TS]

00:13:13   ought to have a package of wieners and I [TS]

00:13:16   started to feel like oh I see I mean I'm [TS]

00:13:20   the only one that really feels like [TS]

00:13:23   we're going into this half-cocked really [TS]

00:13:27   we're going out into the woods [TS]

00:13:28   and everybody else is like oh the poor [TS]

00:13:30   i'm sure the pork loin will be fun like [TS]

00:13:33   I'm sure it's fine too but there's I [TS]

00:13:35   mean there's a winner shaped hole mmm [TS]

00:13:38   that only a wiener can fill and and how [TS]

00:13:44   do i have to pull it to have to pull [TS]

00:13:46   this car over to its turn around and go [TS]

00:13:47   back and at that point there's probably [TS]

00:13:49   not like 7-11 you could go to pick up [TS]

00:13:51   some wieners [TS]

00:13:51   that's the problem right now you're [TS]

00:13:54   talking about like let's go back down [TS]

00:13:55   the mountain through over the river [TS]

00:13:58   through the gate [TS]

00:13:59   that's interesting your different kind [TS]

00:14:00   of fancy because there's already gonna [TS]

00:14:02   be there is the fanciness of the [TS]

00:14:04   fortress but you're being met offense [TS]

00:14:06   you're being fancy about the idea [TS]

00:14:07   there's not that this is obviously the [TS]

00:14:09   winter shaped hole here we gotta write [TS]

00:14:10   write on it and you know the problem the [TS]

00:14:12   problem [TS]

00:14:13   the thing about a wiener is your stand [TS]

00:14:14   around the campfire and everybody's [TS]

00:14:17   drinking their single malt bourbon and [TS]

00:14:19   half the people are smoking their [TS]

00:14:20   natural man she sure roots and you can [TS]

00:14:24   go over pull the winner out of a package [TS]

00:14:26   without asking permission without doing [TS]

00:14:29   any kind of song and dance you can stick [TS]

00:14:32   it on the end of a sharpened stick and [TS]

00:14:34   you can have a winner her but with a [TS]

00:14:36   pork loin or some cajun shrimp [TS]

00:14:39   you know you got to be part yet that's [TS]

00:14:41   you gotta sign off on the whole dinner [TS]

00:14:44   everybody's involved it's a big [TS]

00:14:46   production you know part of camping is [TS]

00:14:50   every once in awhile you look around [TS]

00:14:52   here like well I'm not going to have any [TS]

00:14:53   single malt whisky I'm not gonna maybe [TS]

00:14:56   I'll have a little pull off of a Schrute [TS]

00:14:58   but what I want right now is a burnt [TS]

00:15:01   hotdogs [TS]

00:15:02   uh-huh but you know it wasn't my camping [TS]

00:15:08   trip it wasn't my I was just you know i [TS]

00:15:11   was part of the most part of the [TS]

00:15:14   Praetorian Guard yeah and so are the [TS]

00:15:17   thing with camping also is a big part of [TS]

00:15:21   camping is the go-along get-along part [TS]

00:15:23   you will be helpful [TS]

00:15:24   you want to be not a distraction right [TS]

00:15:27   there's a whole element of like helping [TS]

00:15:29   out and not being a problem when he's [TS]

00:15:31   exactly right you do not want to be the [TS]

00:15:32   guy that they're like [TS]

00:15:34   yeah what are we going camping again i [TS]

00:15:37   don't know let's not let's not invite [TS]

00:15:39   the one guy that didn't help do anything [TS]

00:15:44   right just set around complaining about [TS]

00:15:45   there not being any hot dogs are the [TS]

00:15:47   winners [TS]

00:15:48   you don't wanna be that guy you want to [TS]

00:15:49   be on it I mean and the thing is that in [TS]

00:15:51   a situation like that you'll revert two [TS]

00:15:53   basic types right and there's the you [TS]

00:15:57   know there's the oh yeah right there's [TS]

00:16:00   the cook who's making the pot of beans [TS]

00:16:02   and there's the you know there's the guy [TS]

00:16:06   that's willing the toothpicks for [TS]

00:16:07   everybody i like to think of myself in [TS]

00:16:09   that situation is being kind of a [TS]

00:16:10   justice of the peace character huh [TS]

00:16:13   it's like you know I'm here in case [TS]

00:16:14   anybody wants to get married or anybody [TS]

00:16:16   wants to resolve a dispute here to [TS]

00:16:19   adjudicate that right and you know and [TS]

00:16:22   and and and decide what the law of this [TS]

00:16:25   region is and i think i think most [TS]

00:16:28   people appreciate me in that capacity [TS]

00:16:30   oh absolutely yeah yeah Roderick so long [TS]

00:16:32   he's not here to like he's not here to [TS]

00:16:35   school a lot of scrubbing of pots but [TS]

00:16:38   just in case just in case of tree falls [TS]

00:16:41   in the forest and somebody wants to know [TS]

00:16:42   whether we heard it or not [TS]

00:16:43   John's they're thinking about the big [TS]

00:16:46   ideas I had a cool experience in [TS]

00:16:50   portland that reasons that will be [TS]

00:16:54   apparent i'm i'm reluctant to bring out [TS]

00:16:55   i feel like i should share with you [TS]

00:16:58   yeah yeah that's what I'm here for um [TS]

00:17:00   there's a there's a group of people that [TS]

00:17:03   whenever we're in the same time we go [TS]

00:17:05   out to dinner the four of us and just [TS]

00:17:07   one of those like you know it's one of [TS]

00:17:08   those like you know what I could be a [TS]

00:17:10   crowd just for people secret dinner do [TS]

00:17:13   you do you have a name for yourselves [TS]

00:17:15   yeah are you that the group or the no no [TS]

00:17:19   it'sit's two guys and two girls were [TS]

00:17:21   called nuts and cherries is in the name [TS]

00:17:22   that's what Ozzie and their the nuts [TS]

00:17:24   where the cherries [TS]

00:17:26   it's good i don't know why international [TS]

00:17:27   nuts and cherries and so nuts and [TS]

00:17:29   cherries we decided to go out and get a [TS]

00:17:31   nice dinner we're gonna blow the budget [TS]

00:17:32   a little bit weird al couch oh ok so we [TS]

00:17:36   got a reservation before i think it was [TS]

00:17:39   like those early because went to a party [TS]

00:17:41   you know the fest is going on campus i'm [TS]

00:17:44   telling you this [TS]

00:17:45   you don't have a gaucho is down in [TS]

00:17:46   California this is this one is not as [TS]

00:17:48   nice as the one in Seattle that you and [TS]

00:17:49   I have been to right that one's much [TS]

00:17:51   more I mean no I mean just in terms of [TS]

00:17:53   the Interior it's more speed and one [TS]

00:17:55   cialis more spacious but was you know we [TS]

00:17:57   won't go there it's five-fifteen we go [TS]

00:17:58   we have some drinks we get get [TS]

00:18:00   appetizers we get steaks it was amazing [TS]

00:18:02   and the service was incredible it was [TS]

00:18:04   just it was so fun and you know big [TS]

00:18:07   dinner right so this is the big event [TS]

00:18:08   and we had so much fun nuts and cherries [TS]

00:18:11   I mean when was last time nuts and [TS]

00:18:13   cherries had convened nothing cherries [TS]

00:18:15   to to me be four times a year usually [TS]

00:18:19   mr. lucky twice here [TS]

00:18:21   oh yeah okay supercell two boys two [TS]

00:18:23   girls just platonic eating and was great [TS]

00:18:28   and we went and then we go to this party [TS]

00:18:29   and the party is really fine [TS]

00:18:31   that's a nice people and were like what [TS]

00:18:34   should we do next and where the nut says [TS]

00:18:38   she says let's go back what I said are [TS]

00:18:44   you saying what I think you're thinking [TS]

00:18:45   what I think you're saying she's gonna [TS]

00:18:46   come back [TS]

00:18:48   whoa so we reconvened the other cherry [TS]

00:18:52   was not available so we have a proxy [TS]

00:18:53   cherry but doesn't she went back in a [TS]

00:18:55   second state dinner [TS]

00:18:56   you're kidding me i'm not as the [TS]

00:18:57   greatest night of my life one of the one [TS]

00:18:59   of the nuts [TS]

00:19:01   oh yeah said let's go back let's go back [TS]

00:19:04   it's almost it's almost eleven it was [TS]

00:19:06   1030 without even specifying what she [TS]

00:19:09   meant everybody understood all everybody [TS]

00:19:11   knew [TS]

00:19:12   let's go back go back wow I don't [TS]

00:19:17   mm I don't know how many more times my [TS]

00:19:18   life I'll do that but I do not regret [TS]

00:19:20   that you booked into the party who two [TS]

00:19:23   trips to El Gaucho that's my really good [TS]

00:19:27   is that may be the greatest thing ever [TS]

00:19:29   that's deeply innovate now becoming [TS]

00:19:31   clear it's not the kind of thing i do a [TS]

00:19:32   lot [TS]

00:19:33   no but i but i mean it's it's kind of [TS]

00:19:35   its kind of revolutionary well you the [TS]

00:19:38   whole idea you know it's like the [TS]

00:19:40   hobbits right you have second breakfast [TS]

00:19:41   but how many times you heard about [TS]

00:19:42   somebody having second dinner [TS]

00:19:44   well I have survived it all the time but [TS]

00:19:46   not not in the same restaurants not you [TS]

00:19:50   don't go back and drop another two [TS]

00:19:52   hundred and fifty dollars [TS]

00:19:54   it's not something I do all the time but [TS]

00:19:57   you know has at least a [TS]

00:19:58   once-in-a-lifetime thing i can highly [TS]

00:20:00   and I like the idea of going with the [TS]

00:20:01   same group of people if you can go only [TS]

00:20:03   oh yeah [TS]

00:20:04   everything about it is perfect and maybe [TS]

00:20:06   even trying to say we could get the same [TS]

00:20:07   way to our waiter was living [TS]

00:20:09   haha but the waiter saw you come in the [TS]

00:20:12   winter who would you know what the keys [TS]

00:20:14   cash daddy's getting ready introduced us [TS]

00:20:16   to our new server showed us a place we [TS]

00:20:19   had we had a little bit Rocky IV and [TS]

00:20:20   then don't have another dinner and your [TS]

00:20:23   second dinner did you order you must [TS]

00:20:26   have ordered different things i did i [TS]

00:20:27   had different drinks and actually had [TS]

00:20:29   maybe the same drink at the animal [TS]

00:20:30   fashion but yeah I had a different [TS]

00:20:32   dinner I i tried something a little more [TS]

00:20:34   little more ambitious didn't see that's [TS]

00:20:36   exactly what you do right you'd go you'd [TS]

00:20:38   you reach a little bit i don't think the [TS]

00:20:40   thing is I i have to tell you I had such [TS]

00:20:42   a wonderful time I don't I can't tell [TS]

00:20:43   you that I would do anything differently [TS]

00:20:44   but if I were advising somebody who is [TS]

00:20:46   considering we need a name for this [TS]

00:20:48   yeah if you're going to do a tactical to [TS]

00:20:51   dinner tonight [TS]

00:20:52   I think they're I think there are ways [TS]

00:20:54   to think about doing it i think the idea [TS]

00:20:56   of like is gonna be the same place twice [TS]

00:20:58   it's gonna be different places a [TS]

00:21:00   different approach [TS]

00:21:01   I think it might be novel to go and have [TS]

00:21:02   exactly the same dinner twice i think [TS]

00:21:04   that's an interesting idea to I mean I [TS]

00:21:05   feel like hanging out with a group of [TS]

00:21:07   people going to dinner early going to a [TS]

00:21:08   party and then after after the party [TS]

00:21:11   going out to like a late dinner that's [TS]

00:21:13   something different we're talking about [TS]

00:21:15   returning to the scene of the crime [TS]

00:21:18   yeah yeah let's lay out some of the [TS]

00:21:19   bullets on this I think it it doesn't [TS]

00:21:21   have to be a fancy restaurant [TS]

00:21:23   although i think that's kind of cool but [TS]

00:21:25   it should be the same restaurant [TS]

00:21:26   yeah we should be to the extent possible [TS]

00:21:27   mostly the same group of people all the [TS]

00:21:29   way up again not necessarily should you [TS]

00:21:31   know it's this is America you can attach [TS]

00:21:32   that tag one or two people in or out [TS]

00:21:34   depending on how big the group is but [TS]

00:21:36   now I kinda want to do it again so you [TS]

00:21:38   go to an early dinner which makes [TS]

00:21:40   perfect sense for the theater before the [TS]

00:21:42   show before the like lets go lets you [TS]

00:21:44   know 545 were having early dinner and [TS]

00:21:48   you have a fantastic night out you don't [TS]

00:21:51   want the evening the end let's go back [TS]

00:21:54   let's go back let's have second dinner [TS]

00:21:56   wow you know that so the equivalent [TS]

00:22:00   innovation for me was several years ago [TS]

00:22:02   I realized that when I was going out to [TS]

00:22:04   italian food with friends with any group [TS]

00:22:07   of friends four or more who we would [TS]

00:22:11   walk in the restaurant and before we [TS]

00:22:12   were even seated i would order a large [TS]

00:22:14   pepperoni pizza this episode of rock on [TS]

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00:23:49   Rotter got a loss for the tip for the [TS]

00:23:54   table so you walk in the way the world [TS]

00:23:56   you know that the the heart disease is [TS]

00:23:59   your first time dining at the John [TS]

00:24:02   Carlos [TS]

00:24:03   a little how we work here listen here [TS]

00:24:05   let me stop you there [TS]

00:24:06   let me stop you there bring so much [TS]

00:24:08   money did it bring us and bring us a [TS]

00:24:11   large pepperoni pizza and four menus and [TS]

00:24:13   take our drink order whatever but please [TS]

00:24:15   and thank you get that get that [TS]

00:24:16   pepperoni pizza cooking because then [TS]

00:24:18   you're sitting here looking at the menu [TS]

00:24:19   here like what do I get do i get the [TS]

00:24:22   antipasto do i get the what do I want [TS]

00:24:24   this I want that what maybe I'll get a [TS]

00:24:26   Joe's special and then just as the [TS]

00:24:30   waiter comes back to take your order a [TS]

00:24:32   large pepperoni pizza shows up it's [TS]

00:24:35   perfect ya see [TS]

00:24:36   god dammit this is the kind of [TS]

00:24:38   innovation we need and dining yeah it's [TS]

00:24:40   because it's so normative John you go [TS]

00:24:42   anyplace there's a certain size the [TS]

00:24:43   first i'm going with us [TS]

00:24:44   why is there anything I need to know [TS]

00:24:46   about yeah right what it what about your [TS]

00:24:48   fucking restaurant is special [TS]

00:24:49   what about this experience is special I [TS]

00:24:51   don't need I don't need to be walked [TS]

00:24:53   through the fact that you have a menu [TS]

00:24:55   item to a little bit of how this works [TS]

00:24:57   but I think everything here is locally [TS]

00:24:58   sourced farm-to-table and one out of six [TS]

00:25:02   plates is filled with poison [TS]

00:25:03   yeah let me tell you a little bit how [TS]

00:25:05   this works you shut up and go get our [TS]

00:25:07   drinks bring us a large pepperoni pizza [TS]

00:25:09   is this your first time waiting on [TS]

00:25:11   that's so because the thing is nobody [TS]

00:25:13   wants to order [TS]

00:25:14   nobody wants to go through the whole [TS]

00:25:15   like we can all agree on cheese bullshit [TS]

00:25:17   everybody there tho except if you're [TS]

00:25:21   dining with Ted Leo who's fuckin vegan [TS]

00:25:24   but everybody else wants at least one [TS]

00:25:26   slice of pizza right you just yeah you [TS]

00:25:29   want to slice of pizza [TS]

00:25:30   well I mean youryour there yeah so the [TS]

00:25:33   pet large pepperoni comes everybody gets [TS]

00:25:35   a slice of pizza a few of us have a [TS]

00:25:36   couple of slices and then what do you [TS]

00:25:38   have you have a you have a slice left [TS]

00:25:40   over and then here comes your your main [TS]

00:25:44   course [TS]

00:25:44   here comes your here comes your veal [TS]

00:25:46   here comes your if you're right it would [TS]

00:25:48   be perfect [TS]

00:25:49   it's like it's it's it's it's bananas he [TS]

00:25:52   just you walk in you don't even have to [TS]

00:25:54   make a show of it you just lean over you [TS]

00:25:56   lean over to the guy you say brings a [TS]

00:25:58   large pepperoni pizza [TS]

00:25:59   there's so much room for innovation in [TS]

00:26:01   these kinds of things we all know about [TS]

00:26:02   things like you know let's have [TS]

00:26:04   breakfast for dinner right like that [TS]

00:26:06   tonight we're going to pancakes for [TS]

00:26:07   dinner right doing some of the afternoon [TS]

00:26:09   temps exactly what they don't make [TS]

00:26:11   daughters at her school today today is [TS]

00:26:12   breakfast for lunch day so she's getting [TS]

00:26:14   pancakes and sausage from [TS]

00:26:16   everybody's favorite meal but then [TS]

00:26:18   there's also other ways you can go you [TS]

00:26:19   can go into things like lets you know [TS]

00:26:21   like for example I'm frequently of a [TS]

00:26:23   mind especially with certain kinds of [TS]

00:26:25   restaurants where I would just like for [TS]

00:26:27   appetizers sure rather play that thing [TS]

00:26:31   you do that let's have appetizers for [TS]

00:26:32   dinner we do it all the time because the [TS]

00:26:34   thing is here in seattle now and i'm [TS]

00:26:36   sure this is true and been in certain [TS]

00:26:38   parts of San Francisco you walk in and [TS]

00:26:40   whatever the whatever the main courses [TS]

00:26:44   are they are just scaled up appetizers [TS]

00:26:48   and the appetizer just scaled down main [TS]

00:26:51   courses a place you may instance a tapas [TS]

00:26:53   you consider it a large plates [TS]

00:26:55   restaurant [TS]

00:26:56   yeah you you want to emphasize the tapas [TS]

00:26:58   the appetite of the appetizer list is [TS]

00:27:00   like tournedos of beef and you know [TS]

00:27:03   seven kinds of croutons and one pickled [TS]

00:27:07   pickle on top of something else pickled [TS]

00:27:10   and you go [TS]

00:27:12   none of that sounds great but but then [TS]

00:27:14   you look at the main courses and it's [TS]

00:27:16   like octopus tongue [TS]

00:27:17   mhm pickled go I don't want that either [TS]

00:27:21   you know what I will do what I want [TS]

00:27:23   bring us the meatballs bring us the [TS]

00:27:26   blanched spinach [TS]

00:27:27   I'll try one pickled thing just to make [TS]

00:27:32   you guys happy [TS]

00:27:33   yeah just to just to make you feel like [TS]

00:27:35   that this is still a thing that we're [TS]

00:27:36   all experimenting with pickling pickling [TS]

00:27:40   yeah so yeah we I went out to dinner the [TS]

00:27:43   other night uh some guy was in town from [TS]

00:27:47   out of town a Peter sagal of NPR was [TS]

00:27:54   here in town and and some couple of [TS]

00:27:57   couple of nerds a talking about to [TS]

00:28:00   dinner [TS]

00:28:00   seattle-based nerds and we went to one [TS]

00:28:02   of those restaurants that's called like [TS]

00:28:04   the whale and the and the purpose in the [TS]

00:28:07   captain and the and the the the [TS]

00:28:09   blacksmith and we sat down and it was [TS]

00:28:13   the weight of the the server and the [TS]

00:28:15   great Cormac McCarthy something that the [TS]

00:28:17   server came over and said hi have you [TS]

00:28:19   dined with us before [TS]

00:28:20   let me tell you a little bit how would [TS]

00:28:22   how this goes how this happens [TS]

00:28:24   everything has been pickled today [TS]

00:28:26   on the premises on the premises [TS]

00:28:30   we picked it all out of the cracks of [TS]

00:28:33   the pavement in our own parking lot and [TS]

00:28:35   then threw in some brine for their the [TS]

00:28:39   chicken takes an hour and a half because [TS]

00:28:41   it's not actually a chicken that's [TS]

00:28:43   question about the sides are they start [TS]

00:28:44   family-style meant to be shared at and [TS]

00:28:48   then so we just ordered you know we just [TS]

00:28:49   ordered a bunch of food we were there [TS]

00:28:52   Ken Jennings is one of the nerds and [TS]

00:28:54   can't took the reins was just like okay [TS]

00:28:56   we'll have the pick of pickled beets on [TS]

00:28:59   top of cabbage will have the the pickled [TS]

00:29:02   onions with the with you know pickle [TS]

00:29:04   clams and he ordered like 15 things from [TS]

00:29:08   the appetizer menu and it was great i [TS]

00:29:09   mean it tasted like to basically tastes [TS]

00:29:12   like you're eating a jar of mustard [TS]

00:29:14   oh boy but that's and it cost one [TS]

00:29:17   thousand dollars but that is how that's [TS]

00:29:20   what dining is now you think it's cheap [TS]

00:29:22   the pickle stuff got vinegar costs you [TS]

00:29:24   know how long it took us to tell you [TS]

00:29:26   about this have you locally sourced ill [TS]

00:29:28   recently listened with fifteen dollars [TS]

00:29:30   an hour is the law in Seattle [TS]

00:29:31   mhm and it's a very expensive to employ [TS]

00:29:34   our waiters to sit and explain how food [TS]

00:29:36   for works to you it's not another this [TS]

00:29:39   is cheap is your first time in seattle [TS]

00:29:41   look-look we had to take this formerly a [TS]

00:29:44   like that this former garage where [TS]

00:29:47   actual cars were once worked on by [TS]

00:29:49   people with skills we have to take [TS]

00:29:52   everything useful out of it and and and [TS]

00:29:55   then turn it into a pickling parlor and [TS]

00:29:58   that's not none of this is cheap [TS]

00:30:00   I feel like I just that now my am i'm [TS]

00:30:02   just a buzz with ideas i feel like i [TS]

00:30:04   could be a consultant today like I have [TS]

00:30:05   so many ideas in my head like for [TS]

00:30:07   example think about when you do dim sum [TS]

00:30:09   and if you go to a dim sum place [TS]

00:30:10   especially when they've got like a cart [TS]

00:30:12   like you're never really done ordering [TS]

00:30:13   until you just make them go away like [TS]

00:30:16   you're just coming they're offering your [TS]

00:30:17   new foods they're stacking plates i [TS]

00:30:19   think the closest thing after that the [TS]

00:30:20   we get is sushi [TS]

00:30:22   well of course obviously got a buffet [TS]

00:30:23   that's a different kind of animal but [TS]

00:30:25   was sushi even today like i don't know [TS]

00:30:27   why i first started getting eating sushi [TS]

00:30:29   with people it was very normal to say [TS]

00:30:31   like let's start out with writes this [TS]

00:30:34   sure we'll bring you the edamame because [TS]

00:30:36   so many people ordered at mommy to start [TS]

00:30:39   that now most sushi restaurants just [TS]

00:30:42   bring you some edamame just to like yeah [TS]

00:30:44   we know you're going to order this it's [TS]

00:30:45   now we just consider placing mind [TS]

00:30:47   readers and I like the idea of starting [TS]

00:30:49   out like with the pepperoni pizza and [TS]

00:30:51   just building pepperoni pizza because [TS]

00:30:52   just like the foundation we don't know [TS]

00:30:54   what this building is going [TS]

00:30:55   that's right it's the bits the basic [TS]

00:30:56   level it's the ground floor and then you [TS]

00:31:00   know it anymore when I go to get dim sum [TS]

00:31:04   I feel like what's really happening is a [TS]

00:31:07   like i'm climbing up on the side of of [TS]

00:31:14   i'm climbing up on the side of like a a [TS]

00:31:17   moving truck and a bit more tanjo is [TS]

00:31:22   spraying instead of chrome directly in [TS]

00:31:26   my mouth a spring msg just directly in [TS]

00:31:28   my mouth is like I called secret salt [TS]

00:31:32   you know I don't need to eat the mystery [TS]

00:31:36   pork I don't need to put the buns in my [TS]

00:31:39   mouth I could just I could just jump up [TS]

00:31:41   there and say you know like I am chrome [TS]

00:31:45   witness men and they could just [TS]

00:31:47   you're going to Valhalla here's the msg [TS]

00:31:51   IBM restaurant with spray msg is pretty [TS]

00:31:53   good but if I was standing on a [TS]

00:31:55   foundation of pepperoni pizza when that [TS]

00:31:57   happened I was first would be grounded [TS]

00:31:59   from electric shock and I you know and i [TS]

00:32:03   would have to have some have some base [TS]

00:32:05   layer of bread and cheese that msg could [TS]

00:32:08   kind of soak into and I would I would I [TS]

00:32:11   wouldn't have that like hallucinatory [TS]

00:32:13   hour and a half after after the best dim [TS]

00:32:16   sum meal where you just you know where [TS]

00:32:18   you're like you're hearing colors and [TS]

00:32:20   stuff [TS]

00:32:21   oh you can like to smell truth yeah yeah [TS]

00:32:23   because the msg was doing with your [TS]

00:32:24   synesthesia little bra you get that [TS]

00:32:28   pretty hard don't you [TS]

00:32:29   you know i i've done a fair enough [TS]

00:32:32   amount of research to know that the only [TS]

00:32:34   people that will really stand up and say [TS]

00:32:37   that msg has an effect on them it's like [TS]

00:32:41   Jenny McCarthy level of craziness [TS]

00:32:44   because all of the science people and [TS]

00:32:46   all of the food people say no that's not [TS]

00:32:48   true you do not feel msg but they're [TS]

00:32:52   wrong [TS]

00:32:53   yeah i'm a member of the cult of msg [TS]

00:32:56   feelers and when I eat it I can fucking [TS]

00:32:59   feel the feet I can feel the future I [TS]

00:33:04   can control [TS]

00:33:07   I i have spooky action at a distance I [TS]

00:33:10   can make i can make i can make like [TS]

00:33:14   Adams line up with each other is you [TS]

00:33:18   access she's just obviously senses but [TS]

00:33:21   eventually I don't want to put it too [TS]

00:33:22   strongly gives you said there might be a [TS]

00:33:24   nascent powers that you're not even [TS]

00:33:26   aware of from day to day [TS]

00:33:27   that's exactly right you get a window of [TS]

00:33:29   possibility when you when you feel the [TS]

00:33:31   msg things start to happen you're [TS]

00:33:32   noticing things you never noticed before [TS]

00:33:34   I can feel my hair you can feel your [TS]

00:33:37   answers just like you really like all my [TS]

00:33:39   god i have this all the time [TS]

00:33:40   Yeah Yeah right well except that it also [TS]

00:33:43   hurts a little bit like there's there's [TS]

00:33:46   a it's it's like with all great powers [TS]

00:33:48   comes from some kind of discomfort [TS]

00:33:51   yeah right so so all of a sudden like I [TS]

00:33:53   feel too much I here too much i kinda [TS]

00:33:56   wanna go to sleep but I also I [TS]

00:34:00   you know kind of want to drive a truck [TS]

00:34:01   into a dust storm like it's a it's a [TS]

00:34:04   very peculiar state and it's and it's [TS]

00:34:06   especially destabilizing when other [TS]

00:34:10   people try to tell you that it's not [TS]

00:34:11   happening [TS]

00:34:11   Yeah right right right you know not how [TS]

00:34:16   you feel about beverages I think as you [TS]

00:34:18   know I'm a multi beverage person i like [TS]

00:34:20   i like multiple beverages sometimes at [TS]

00:34:23   the same time you're talking about like [TS]

00:34:25   a table where you have a sparkling water [TS]

00:34:28   an old-fashioned an orangina a coffee a [TS]

00:34:32   coffee and a cup of green tea all sort [TS]

00:34:34   of a raid around with it could be [TS]

00:34:36   surprised me but you know obviously [TS]

00:34:37   bring the water I'm gonna want the water [TS]

00:34:39   my big water traps will you don't have [TS]

00:34:40   to order that no my standard go to UM [TS]

00:34:43   for a time and nineties was I would have [TS]

00:34:45   you know regular glass glass of water a [TS]

00:34:48   coffee scotch and coke [TS]

00:34:51   ooh ok well mine is a water a cup of [TS]

00:34:56   coffee always with him and then a [TS]

00:34:58   milkshake that if you can go into a [TS]

00:35:03   place and have a cup of coffee and a [TS]

00:35:04   milkshake with a water back then and [TS]

00:35:09   then a pepperoni pizzas on the way then [TS]

00:35:12   fucking order french dip and you got it [TS]

00:35:16   covered right you order friendship with [TS]

00:35:19   a side salad and you're gonna walk out [TS]

00:35:21   of there and there's not going to be [TS]

00:35:22   that thing of like oh I wish I'd had the [TS]

00:35:24   mushrooms right well i always get the [TS]

00:35:27   mushrooms [TS]

00:35:28   well I used to get the mushrooms until I [TS]

00:35:30   bit into a mushroom one time and it [TS]

00:35:32   squirted hot oil on me that was a [TS]

00:35:36   triggering thing for you know it now and [TS]

00:35:37   now if you like to get warnings if we're [TS]

00:35:39   up mushrooms are going to be discussed [TS]

00:35:41   no no but about squirting hot squirting [TS]

00:35:44   if mushroom show up on the table if [TS]

00:35:46   listen if hot squirting is going to be [TS]

00:35:48   discussed i do want to i do want some [TS]

00:35:49   kind of warning or at least you know I [TS]

00:35:52   want to be like in pig latin [TS]

00:35:54   no one would be aware it's impossible [TS]

00:35:56   possible conversations room a hurting [TS]

00:35:58   square but look if if if if a ramekin or [TS]

00:36:02   a a gravy boat of mushroom shows up and [TS]

00:36:05   their sizzling in butter [TS]

00:36:07   I know what I'm getting into what I [TS]

00:36:09   don't want [TS]

00:36:10   is deep fried mushrooms they already [TS]

00:36:13   have they have lots of secrets and [TS]

00:36:14   surprises [TS]

00:36:15   yeah they appear to be like dry hot and [TS]

00:36:17   dry and then you crunch into it you [TS]

00:36:20   realize like oh the the whole miserable [TS]

00:36:22   feeling would hit the inside here comes [TS]

00:36:24   yeah that hurts the fungus is just [TS]

00:36:27   soaked boiling hot oil and then it's and [TS]

00:36:30   it won't cool down because it's inside [TS]

00:36:31   this crust that's a dangerous fucking [TS]

00:36:35   grenade slam that fucking milkshake [TS]

00:36:38   yeah but once the hot oils hits you [TS]

00:36:40   you're fucked I mean no milk shake in [TS]

00:36:42   the world can take that getting together [TS]

00:36:44   in Africa to get vanilla I can rotate i [TS]

00:36:49   rotate milkshakes i will not get there [TS]

00:36:54   are a lot of problems right now in the [TS]

00:36:56   northwest and one of them is that I was [TS]

00:36:59   also just recently in portland and [TS]

00:37:01   there's a there's a the popular ice [TS]

00:37:04   cream shop down there now is called [TS]

00:37:05   something like yeah the Salton salt & [TS]

00:37:09   straw [TS]

00:37:09   yes it's straight it's pretty fancy it's [TS]

00:37:12   pretty fancy and you and and they hand [TS]

00:37:14   you a menu of like 14 different kinds of [TS]

00:37:16   ice cream [TS]

00:37:17   I can't wait like an hour it's nuts you [TS]

00:37:19   gotta wait an hour and the ice cream [TS]

00:37:20   flavors are salted licorice shoe-leather [TS]

00:37:24   bananas flambĂ© with anchovies wooden [TS]

00:37:30   comb and he'll eat shit you guys like [TS]

00:37:33   come on one just one flavor too clever [TS]

00:37:36   too clever by half [TS]

00:37:38   yeah one flavor 11 flavor that is not [TS]

00:37:41   for that it where it's not an experience [TS]

00:37:44   I just we caught on somebody's twirly [TS]

00:37:46   moustache [TS]

00:37:47   I just want some fucking ice cream rose [TS]

00:37:48   i will lead a scoop of vanilla right now [TS]

00:37:51   except that your vanilla is laced with [TS]

00:37:53   lavender I don't want lab I you know I [TS]

00:37:57   have to tell you I don't want to sound [TS]

00:37:59   touchy but I I think I have a bone to [TS]

00:38:01   pick with people who are anti vanilla I [TS]

00:38:03   think vanilla can be very very good [TS]

00:38:05   it's vanilla is not vanilla vanilla is [TS]

00:38:07   not boring when you get a really good [TS]

00:38:09   like a you know what they're related the [TS]

00:38:11   real vanilla bean taste to it [TS]

00:38:14   God that can be so good even look at [TS]

00:38:16   some of the Athena haagen-dazs the [TS]

00:38:18   Hadassah what's called vanilla bean so [TS]

00:38:21   I'm gonna be good [TS]

00:38:22   that's a good as ice cream [TS]

00:38:24   you know up here in the northwest we [TS]

00:38:25   have the we have to look alright that's [TS]

00:38:28   the creamery that's the creamery and [TS]

00:38:30   that tillamook makes ice cream and it's [TS]

00:38:32   not it's not which it it's not like [TS]

00:38:34   premium ice cream but it's ice cream [TS]

00:38:37   that I support I support them mostly [TS]

00:38:39   because it has a northwestern pedigree [TS]

00:38:42   and they have like five different kinds [TS]

00:38:44   of vanilla but there's one called [TS]

00:38:47   old-fashioned vanilla and I just get it [TS]

00:38:52   reflexively because if you put [TS]

00:38:53   old-fashioned in front of something I [TS]

00:38:54   just immediately feel like I'm at [TS]

00:38:56   Farrell's ice cream shop and somebody [TS]

00:38:58   with the with the arm garter and a [TS]

00:39:01   bowler hat is coming over and [TS]

00:39:03   rollerskating yeah it's your birthday [TS]

00:39:05   and so I get that old-fashioned vanilla [TS]

00:39:09   and the thing about vanilla ice cream [TS]

00:39:11   for me the first two bites are ambrosia [TS]

00:39:14   and then like everything it just sort of [TS]

00:39:18   dulls your senses and it turns into a [TS]

00:39:20   menu just like cream and lard in your [TS]

00:39:22   mouth as fast as you can to try and get [TS]

00:39:25   the to try and make the screaming [TS]

00:39:26   stopped the promise Seattle has to do [TS]

00:39:28   with shakes get to me fancy ice creams [TS]

00:39:31   you can't get like a normal shape are [TS]

00:39:33   they are sandals on [TS]

00:39:34   oh no I think ninety-nine percent of the [TS]

00:39:35   time when you go to when you go to get a [TS]

00:39:37   milkshake in Seattle you have chocolate [TS]

00:39:39   vanilla strawberry but then you have [TS]

00:39:41   other up you know you can get raspberry [TS]

00:39:43   which I sometimes will do I like a [TS]

00:39:46   raspberry shake i like a blackberry [TS]

00:39:47   shake i'll even get a peanut butter [TS]

00:39:50   chocolate shake [TS]

00:39:51   that sounds good coffee shake very good [TS]

00:39:54   mint chocolate chip shake all of these [TS]

00:39:57   are the classic Flav's don't sound like [TS]

00:40:00   scott simpson here but there are the [TS]

00:40:01   classic flat ass itch but you come in [TS]

00:40:03   and you got you get your water you got [TS]

00:40:06   your milkshake you obviously that your [TS]

00:40:07   coffee there's a pepperoni pizza on the [TS]

00:40:09   way you know what would you what would [TS]

00:40:11   you like to see in dining technologies [TS]

00:40:13   that is to encourage a certain cut way [TS]

00:40:16   of eating or to open up the idea that [TS]

00:40:17   this could be what you wanted to be what [TS]

00:40:19   would you like to see when you go to a [TS]

00:40:20   restaurant I want to see a big table [TS]

00:40:23   where people have carved their names and [TS]

00:40:26   probably large like like two large the [TS]

00:40:30   tables too large but that's good because [TS]

00:40:34   it's a picnic table style thing [TS]

00:40:36   I'd like there to be a pipe organ [TS]

00:40:40   haha and I'd like them to be playing old [TS]

00:40:44   Harold Lloyd movies up on the brick wall [TS]

00:40:46   and then the guy with the pipe organ is [TS]

00:40:49   like scoring the movie I'd like there to [TS]

00:40:52   be milkshakes that kind of come out with [TS]

00:40:56   the pizza should be as long as you're [TS]

00:40:58   going along on a wackadoodle 70 steams [TS]

00:41:00   should be a phone on the table that you [TS]

00:41:01   can pick up [TS]

00:41:02   oh hello oh hello sure there should be a [TS]

00:41:06   phone on the table and you can you call [TS]

00:41:08   you could I mean here's another one i [TS]

00:41:10   agree with you i like so far getting to [TS]

00:41:11   shakeys you got Farrell's you got that [TS]

00:41:14   trend of like the of the like [TS]

00:41:16   prototypical Bennigan's TGI Fridays lots [TS]

00:41:19   of antiques and shit on the walls and [TS]

00:41:20   you can I talk on the phone that looks [TS]

00:41:22   like shit what should be confident and [TS]

00:41:24   shit you get a giant table i also like [TS]

00:41:26   the idea first of all everything is okay [TS]

00:41:28   like whatever you want if you want a [TS]

00:41:29   weird way we'll make it that way if you [TS]

00:41:31   want a weird portion size will make it [TS]

00:41:33   will do the extent we can we will try to [TS]

00:41:35   make that work and price it accordingly [TS]

00:41:37   no restrictions there should be a [TS]

00:41:38   minimal number of restrictions and it's [TS]

00:41:40   not because the chef is is fucking high [TS]

00:41:42   strong and doesn't like to marrek like I [TS]

00:41:44   want to merge onto marrek em right [TS]

00:41:46   that's another one because the other one [TS]

00:41:48   I know this is going to be difficult [TS]

00:41:49   like I looked at the 13 coins menu just [TS]

00:41:51   now for like an hour not fantastic menu [TS]

00:41:54   but like I you know it seems like you go [TS]

00:41:56   to somebody's gonna get Danny's and [TS]

00:41:57   everything's price like a Denny's you [TS]

00:41:59   good with 13 coins are now got you [TS]

00:42:01   everything is price that way i like to [TS]

00:42:02   see some more variation where I could [TS]

00:42:05   get in $80 tomahawk steak [TS]

00:42:08   uh I could also get a pretty good [TS]

00:42:10   three-dollar grilled cheese to top it [TS]

00:42:12   with interesting i wonder how that would [TS]

00:42:15   work i wonder if that would actually be [TS]

00:42:17   a problem if your menu ginger gamut [TS]

00:42:22   well i just i wonder if I want you know [TS]

00:42:25   it's that the thing where people always [TS]

00:42:26   buy the thing in the middle right [TS]

00:42:29   I don't know if you'd ever sure every [TS]

00:42:31   once in a while some some guy and [TS]

00:42:32   oppressed shirt with a gaudy watch is [TS]

00:42:37   going to order the $80 steak just to [TS]

00:42:39   lord it over everybody right but how [TS]

00:42:42   long were you can have that sitting in [TS]

00:42:43   the fridge before that guy comes in [TS]

00:42:45   oh you got to be so careful with that [TS]

00:42:47   and I i have to tell you if it's a [TS]

00:42:48   certain price and I don't want to be [TS]

00:42:50   normal not normative here but if it's a [TS]

00:42:52   certain price restaurant and they have [TS]

00:42:54   lobster on the menu or they've got too [TS]

00:42:56   many different kinds of seafood i will [TS]

00:42:58   steer away from that you'll avoid the [TS]

00:43:00   lobster but like what if you love kebabs [TS]

00:43:03   but you're avoiding lamb [TS]

00:43:05   what if you want a grilled cheese kebab [TS]

00:43:06   like whatever it is you want i would [TS]

00:43:09   love a place that would do to the extent [TS]

00:43:10   possible try to make an interesting if [TS]

00:43:12   we want to get if we win how about this [TS]

00:43:14   what if you want the $80 tomahawk steak [TS]

00:43:16   as an appetizer for the table [TS]

00:43:18   whoa whoa right that diners Without [TS]

00:43:22   Borders see i remember i remember back [TS]

00:43:25   in the eighties before the world became [TS]

00:43:27   standardized traveling back east through [TS]

00:43:31   small towns and buy back east I mean the [TS]

00:43:34   Midwest which at the time seemed like [TS]

00:43:35   back east to me you'd go into these [TS]

00:43:38   little towns and their be kind of like [TS]

00:43:40   though there be a restaurant and the [TS]

00:43:43   sign outside [TS]

00:43:44   what's a restaurant group you know what [TS]

00:43:46   i mean and i do is you should go it's [TS]

00:43:48   unacceptable have a restaurant called [TS]

00:43:49   restaurant that was called rosebud known [TS]

00:43:51   informally by the former dead owners [TS]

00:43:54   name sure was collecting pointers guess [TS]

00:43:57   jeans they care that it's a restaurant [TS]

00:43:58   and jeans been dead for a long time it's [TS]

00:44:00   what I'd like jeans jeans wife's second [TS]

00:44:04   husband actually loved his cigarettes [TS]

00:44:06   but so you go in there and behind the [TS]

00:44:08   bar there be a bar obviously where [TS]

00:44:10   people would like white a paper hats [TS]

00:44:13   were bustling it was fairly bustling [TS]

00:44:17   place is full of farmers and there would [TS]

00:44:20   be a ham there will be a ham and there [TS]

00:44:23   will be a turkey and there will be a [TS]

00:44:24   roast beef and you could make any kind [TS]

00:44:27   of food with those combination of those [TS]

00:44:29   things that would be nice right there [TS]

00:44:31   would be simply ran out of that hand [TS]

00:44:33   there's no more ham no more him until [TS]

00:44:34   they had another hand and it just feels [TS]

00:44:36   like from the from that combination of [TS]

00:44:40   ingredients that the milkshake [TS]

00:44:43   ingredients they have the ham the roast [TS]

00:44:44   beef in the turkey they had the bread [TS]

00:44:46   they had cheese and eggs you could make [TS]

00:44:52   like 7,000 kinds of food you can make a [TS]

00:44:55   ham sandwich but you can also make a ham [TS]

00:44:57   steak [TS]

00:44:58   I feel like that has been lost a ham [TS]

00:45:01   steak so much has been lost [TS]

00:45:03   yeah and now you walk into a place [TS]

00:45:04   you're like well for the tonight we have [TS]

00:45:08   tonight chef has prepared ham steak 444 [TS]

00:45:18   okay first of all it's not fillet of ham [TS]

00:45:20   heads and it's just it's just it's just [TS]

00:45:23   yeah it's been picked a dollar signs no [TS]

00:45:25   no dollar signs on the meddling Flav [TS]

00:45:27   hand chef has a way of hand for price [TS]

00:45:29   available on request [TS]

00:45:30   AQ & and I and you know it's just like [TS]

00:45:33   what the fuck am come on it's one of the [TS]

00:45:36   it's one of the basic foods there ought [TS]

00:45:39   to be him [TS]

00:45:39   I mean it won't be him everywhere I told [TS]

00:45:43   you I totally agree [TS]

00:45:44   I don't want to know i don't want to [TS]

00:45:45   sound like i don't want to sound like [TS]

00:45:48   somebody that's like him everywhere have [TS]

00:45:49   everywhere him everywhere and down and [TS]

00:45:54   I've got like dancers on either side [TS]

00:45:55   twerking him everywhere am everywhere [TS]

00:45:59   ladies and gentlemen the ham targets I [TS]

00:46:02   don't you know I had that I don't want [TS]

00:46:04   that to be my legacy and everywhere so [TS]

00:46:06   but you can get a scoop but here's the [TS]

00:46:08   thing you can you got turkey got rescue [TS]

00:46:10   and you get a scoop of macaroni cheese [TS]

00:46:12   on the side or maybe a monkey dish [TS]

00:46:14   that's right also yeah I want paper hats [TS]

00:46:16   also lots of monkey dishes and ramekins [TS]

00:46:18   abso-fucking-lutely i love all you know [TS]

00:46:21   missing oh my god sauce [TS]

00:46:23   what about sauces now sauces it seems to [TS]

00:46:26   me like the ham the turkey maybe you [TS]

00:46:27   don't have a ton of it but you could [TS]

00:46:29   have a saucepan of like six sauces that [TS]

00:46:31   could be deployed tactically on any meal [TS]

00:46:34   that anyone ordered you and I have [TS]

00:46:36   talked a lot about sauce and not enough [TS]

00:46:38   though I still feel like I've got a [TS]

00:46:39   sauce whole well yeah it's a few you do [TS]

00:46:44   have a sauce whole I do too but I don't [TS]

00:46:46   think I don't think other people care [TS]

00:46:47   about sauce like we do I don't think [TS]

00:46:49   they thought about it enough to get an [TS]

00:46:51   education issue it's an education issue [TS]

00:46:53   and the thing is you can't think about [TS]

00:46:54   sauce you have to do about sauce in a [TS]

00:46:58   sister you know what I'm saying like s [TS]

00:47:00   the songs you have to you have to you [TS]

00:47:03   have to live the sauce and that's how [TS]

00:47:05   you know that you want the sauce the [TS]

00:47:07   song yet the sauce has to come you have [TS]

00:47:08   to go how their capers in this song [TS]

00:47:11   los that the education part is important [TS]

00:47:13   John you have to be aware of the sauce [TS]

00:47:15   and open to the sauce because here's [TS]

00:47:17   what you're thinking if you're one of [TS]

00:47:17   these people it's not that people are [TS]

00:47:19   dumb where the people are unaware [TS]

00:47:21   they're not educated there's kind of [TS]

00:47:23   dumb and sort of unaware about sausage [TS]

00:47:25   yeah so they're thinking if you've [TS]

00:47:26   already gone through this you you you [TS]

00:47:27   know this this is the thing people go [TS]

00:47:29   sauces there's already plenty of sauces [TS]

00:47:31   no there's not plenty of sauces go to [TS]

00:47:33   the grocery store and try to get [TS]

00:47:35   yourself some store made sauces and [TS]

00:47:36   gravies how's that look at all have you [TS]

00:47:38   ever have you ever bought a jar of gravy [TS]

00:47:41   and I was like to all of the gravy's [TS]

00:47:42   it's a literal abortion it's simple bad [TS]

00:47:45   constant part of this one day I went and [TS]

00:47:48   I tried about four envelopes from [TS]

00:47:50   McCormick's and I tried some of this [TS]

00:47:51   chicken tonight type of abortions and [TS]

00:47:53   brought it home [TS]

00:47:54   they were all awful i could have shat [TS]

00:47:56   better sauce yep yep and you know it up [TS]

00:47:58   for me I i have felt like the day that [TS]

00:48:00   they can put gravy and a can or in a jar [TS]

00:48:04   and have it even remotely resemble gravy [TS]

00:48:07   is the day that I would go on a manned [TS]

00:48:10   mission to Mars [TS]

00:48:11   I mean sure this is the thing I the [TS]

00:48:13   number one thing that is inhibiting me [TS]

00:48:16   from going to Mars [TS]

00:48:17   aside from not having been invited is [TS]

00:48:20   the idea that i'm gonna get up there and [TS]

00:48:23   there's going to be a you know it's [TS]

00:48:24   going to be Thanksgiving and we're going [TS]

00:48:26   to open up our bags of like gonna get a [TS]

00:48:29   tube of Turkey to ya youtuber turkey [TS]

00:48:32   dinner and I'm gonna be like yeah I'm on [TS]

00:48:34   the way to Mars I'm a but I'm a historic [TS]

00:48:36   pioneer and then you're going to take [TS]

00:48:39   that first taste of gravy and it's going [TS]

00:48:41   to taste like somebody burned a plastic [TS]

00:48:44   bag and you're gonna say what the what [TS]

00:48:49   the fuck get me back to earth [TS]

00:48:52   you can make that noise I can't do this [TS]

00:48:55   I can't do this they know about assault [TS]

00:48:58   in the world can mask this terrible [TS]

00:49:00   gravy has got to be paper hats [TS]

00:49:05   it's got to be flexibility there should [TS]

00:49:07   be sanitary that to me you don't need a [TS]

00:49:09   ton of sauce we've covered sauces and [TS]

00:49:10   gravies a little bit in the past i want [TS]

00:49:12   to talk about it too much but who but i [TS]

00:49:15   think a sausage gravy a nice brown gravy [TS]

00:49:17   but now i'm told by our listeners that [TS]

00:49:20   I'm overthinking the sausage gravy think [TS]

00:49:22   that sausage gravy is actually trivially [TS]

00:49:24   easy to make [TS]

00:49:24   if you have you heard this uh well i [TS]

00:49:28   would like to see it made [TS]

00:49:31   well you go and look at a recipe it [TS]

00:49:32   looks complicated but apparently it's [TS]

00:49:34   pretty much as simple as crumble up some [TS]

00:49:36   sausage put in some butter and cream and [TS]

00:49:40   then you know its salt pepper and you've [TS]

00:49:41   got sausage gravy but i don't see I feel [TS]

00:49:44   like I want to fact check it a little [TS]

00:49:45   bit but look but look at it seems like [TS]

00:49:48   there should be a way like to have a [TS]

00:49:49   restaurant that thing is it could be a [TS]

00:49:50   big restaurant 13 coins pretty [TS]

00:49:52   good-sized right [TS]

00:49:53   yep you know why I'm gonna put the show [TS]

00:49:56   that's the booths on my couch I can't be [TS]

00:49:58   this is going away i'm so sad [TS]

00:50:00   well it hasn't happened yet I mean [TS]

00:50:01   there's a lot of things a lot of things [TS]

00:50:03   that they say are going away and then [TS]

00:50:06   they don't go away a lot of things that [TS]

00:50:08   they don't tell you are going away just [TS]

00:50:11   go away in the middle of the night that [TS]

00:50:13   they tore down two blocks of businesses [TS]

00:50:18   and apartment buildings on Broadway to [TS]

00:50:21   build the new subway stop em [TS]

00:50:27   Seattle is you know very excited about [TS]

00:50:29   our big subway that is opening finally [TS]

00:50:31   after after decades after 50 years of [TS]

00:50:35   talking about internal or longer we [TS]

00:50:38   finally now have our subway which goes [TS]

00:50:41   from the University to downtown and it [TS]

00:50:45   has three stops university one stop on [TS]

00:50:50   capitol hill and then downtown so it's a [TS]

00:50:52   three-stop train it cost 80 billion [TS]

00:50:56   dollars to build i'll come on [TS]

00:50:58   well maybe not 80 but is up there just a [TS]

00:51:01   billion dollars to build ya a 400 people [TS]

00:51:05   lost their lives [TS]

00:51:06   what no nobody lost their lives anymore [TS]

00:51:10   i'm so glad you finally out of that [TS]

00:51:13   racing you can tell the truth you can [TS]

00:51:14   speak the truth different ways but what [TS]

00:51:16   they really what they did was they tore [TS]

00:51:17   down two blocks of kind of you know they [TS]

00:51:19   weren't the greatest businesses but it [TS]

00:51:22   was it was it was one of those like [TS]

00:51:25   stretches of businesses where there was [TS]

00:51:29   the indian food restaurant there was the [TS]

00:51:31   bong store yes but there was also the [TS]

00:51:33   kitty cat bookstore [TS]

00:51:35   there was the state-owned liquor store [TS]

00:51:38   there were 4-5 business 45 storefronts [TS]

00:51:43   where you could for awhile open a store [TS]

00:51:46   that sold nothing but butane lighters [TS]

00:51:47   and swords you can open a store that [TS]

00:51:51   sold like African imports that was [TS]

00:51:54   perpetually going out of business we [TS]

00:51:56   call it the eternal flame right the [TS]

00:51:58   store that we opened with a [TS]

00:52:00   going-out-of-business sale and it was [TS]

00:52:01   always going out of business [TS]

00:52:03   ok like all those places where if you [TS]

00:52:06   wanted to sell magic the gathering cards [TS]

00:52:08   and have a fan of folding table where [TS]

00:52:11   people could play cards in the middle of [TS]

00:52:12   the day like you could open a store in [TS]

00:52:15   one of these places they tore them all [TS]

00:52:17   down including like an old apartment [TS]

00:52:19   building and and the Minotaur the great [TS]

00:52:22   coffee shop down the Godfather's Pizza [TS]

00:52:24   where I used to sleep during the day [TS]

00:52:25   when I didn't have a place to live [TS]

00:52:29   normal down to build this subway and [TS]

00:52:31   they built a huge fence around the hole [TS]

00:52:33   2 square blocks so you couldn't see what [TS]

00:52:36   was going on was like what's going on in [TS]

00:52:38   there you know they're building [TS]

00:52:39   something they're digging a big hole and [TS]

00:52:43   then just the other day took the fence [TS]

00:52:44   down to reveal that at least so far all [TS]

00:52:51   they've built there is one of those [TS]

00:52:54   municipal like west coast municipal [TS]

00:52:59   style stuff subway tunnel entrance kiosk [TS]

00:53:04   bulbs mean steps [TS]

00:53:08   uh well because of the because of [TS]

00:53:11   because Seattle as it has a geography [TS]

00:53:14   that really is not at all suited to [TS]

00:53:18   subways the only way to access the [TS]

00:53:21   tunnel is by express elevator so there's [TS]

00:53:26   nose-down know there's no escalate [TS]

00:53:29   that's a terrible idea [TS]

00:53:31   oh I know you need that for people with [TS]

00:53:33   motion things though I don't want to [TS]

00:53:35   only way [TS]

00:53:36   express elevator because it's so deep [TS]

00:53:38   under the ground so we're going to slide [TS]

00:53:41   so here's how you access this thing you [TS]

00:53:43   get on an elevator with a bunch of [TS]

00:53:45   strangers [TS]

00:53:47   and go down so deep into the ground that [TS]

00:53:51   you can't even take a stair if you [TS]

00:53:54   wanted to and that's that's their [TS]

00:53:58   proposed like where we're all supposed [TS]

00:54:00   to just be like fine with that but [TS]

00:54:02   leaving that aside what what they have [TS]

00:54:06   done is they took away they took away [TS]

00:54:08   two blocks of businesses and and [TS]

00:54:09   departments and my presumption was [TS]

00:54:12   behind that giant wall when they were [TS]

00:54:13   beavering away at digging their whole [TS]

00:54:15   but they also had a plan to build a [TS]

00:54:18   six-story building with apartments and [TS]

00:54:20   ground floor retail in added at what is [TS]

00:54:24   basically the busiest intersection on [TS]

00:54:28   Capitol Hill certainly but one of the [TS]

00:54:30   busiest intersections in the town and [TS]

00:54:32   they took the wall down and it's just [TS]

00:54:34   like it's basically a elevator door and [TS]

00:54:40   so I see what you mean you mean like the [TS]

00:54:42   kind of thing you'd see like in civic [TS]

00:54:44   center [TS]

00:54:45   yeah there's just this creepy elevator [TS]

00:54:47   tip it's just an elevator door sticking [TS]

00:54:49   out of a plaza [TS]

00:54:50   oh that sounds very anticlimactic after [TS]

00:54:52   all the wall it's terribly [TS]

00:54:54   anti-climactic and I just look at it I'm [TS]

00:54:56   like well what's gonna happen here now [TS]

00:54:57   like what [TS]

00:55:00   there's no commerce happening there's no [TS]

00:55:02   no one can live here [TS]

00:55:04   that's so depressing John it's basically [TS]

00:55:06   cut one end of broadway off from the [TS]

00:55:08   other end because you're gonna walk [TS]

00:55:09   along Broadway you're gonna be looking [TS]

00:55:10   at the shop windows you're going to come [TS]

00:55:11   to this elevator shaft and you're going [TS]

00:55:15   to look past it you're going to see two [TS]

00:55:16   blocks of just baked plane there's no [TS]

00:55:22   landscaping and as far as i can tell men [TS]

00:55:24   and so you're going to turn around and [TS]

00:55:26   walk up the other side of broadway and [TS]

00:55:27   and you're not going to get done the two [TS]

00:55:30   sides of broadway now we're not [TS]

00:55:31   connected the two ends of it and huge [TS]

00:55:34   missed opportunity to have like this be [TS]

00:55:38   a thing and instead what it is it's just [TS]

00:55:40   a big Plaza where occupy wall street is [TS]

00:55:43   going to stand around handing out flyers [TS]

00:55:45   and chanting and wearing a guy fawkes [TS]

00:55:48   masks and like it's just a they thought [TS]

00:55:54   that they were building some kind of [TS]

00:55:55   Logan's Run minimalism but like shitty [TS]

00:55:59   human beings are going to fill [TS]

00:56:00   all that space with shittiness [TS]

00:56:02   immediately the best thing that is going [TS]

00:56:07   to be there is maybe somebody doing some [TS]

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00:58:17   couple of mimes a couple of friendly [TS]

00:58:19   mind [TS]

00:58:20   yeah this is mine friendly but also [TS]

00:58:22   maybe an encampment you could have an [TS]

00:58:23   encampment they're all that'll be nice [TS]

00:58:26   this not only we understand i mean i [TS]

00:58:29   hereby can't tell how much this is john [TS]

00:58:32   joking but the idea of like so there's [TS]

00:58:35   an elevator people get in it they go way [TS]

00:58:37   down to the subway is there are they are [TS]

00:58:39   their constant elevator going up and [TS]

00:58:40   down is there one elevator to go way [TS]

00:58:42   down now they go way down now name it [TS]

00:58:46   sounds a little bit like this corrosion [TS]

00:58:49   by sisters of mercy [TS]

00:58:50   mhm what we goin for uh well the song [TS]

00:58:53   way down now i'll try this one [TS]

00:58:55   we're down we're down now oh haha i like [TS]

00:58:59   that we're down radar bae way down [TS]

00:59:04   yahoo Rodin I said it not just type [TS]

00:59:07   casey james even know what that is [TS]

00:59:11   caseyjames sounds like a missing child [TS]

00:59:12   except it's the casey james we're going [TS]

00:59:15   to write a missing child casey james the [TS]

00:59:18   I the buyer by good my fellow senators [TS]

00:59:23   to endorse the way down case James bill [TS]

00:59:29   what you're going to protect the [TS]

00:59:32   children from being abducted quote to [TS]

00:59:37   quote the great sound [TS]

00:59:38   love daddy passed hey now hey now seeing [TS]

00:59:41   this corrosion he now [TS]

00:59:44   oh is it a bank of elevators how many [TS]

00:59:47   how many elevators are there extant I [TS]

00:59:49   don't know if you've ever ridden a [TS]

00:59:52   municipal elevator that just opens into [TS]

00:59:55   a part i spent just under 49 years [TS]

00:59:58   avoiding municipal elevator [TS]

00:59:58   avoiding municipal elevator [TS]

01:00:00   because I know it's just a moving toilet [TS]

01:00:02   yeah well that's exactly right like if I [TS]

01:00:04   municipal elevator people need them here [TS]

01:00:06   and i'll get a pop of my thoughts [TS]

01:00:08   sometimes but hey the elevators Bart [TS]

01:00:09   elevators are out at civic center or [TS]

01:00:11   wherever but like people just shit [TS]

01:00:13   that's what they are they're just moving [TS]

01:00:14   jitters [TS]

01:00:14   I mean about an elevator in a city [TS]

01:00:16   building where they lock the doors at [TS]

01:00:18   night and they have cleaning crews those [TS]

01:00:21   elevators most of the time don't work [TS]

01:00:23   and are like yeah right people use them [TS]

01:00:27   as bathrooms now [TS]

01:00:28   picture an elevator that's just open to [TS]

01:00:30   the world and and tell me even if they [TS]

01:00:34   had 20 banks of them and even if they [TS]

01:00:36   were the fastest self-cleaning elevators [TS]

01:00:39   in the world are you its there's so many [TS]

01:00:43   points of failure would you ever get on [TS]

01:00:45   one I would not ever get on one how [TS]

01:00:47   long's the ride [TS]

01:00:48   kinda like 11 minutes haha oh I mean it [TS]

01:00:53   was like an 11-minute elevator ride [TS]

01:00:57   every day [TS]

01:00:58   basically it feels like you would be [TS]

01:01:00   with your standing there like my the [TS]

01:01:02   chilean miner am I the chilean miner I'm [TS]

01:01:05   gonna get on this elevator all i want to [TS]

01:01:06   do is take a film average and I'm gonna [TS]

01:01:09   get on this I'm gonna go down and then [TS]

01:01:11   and then I'm gonna be down there they're [TS]

01:01:12   gonna be drilling a hole and sending me [TS]

01:01:14   like cheese sandwiches through a whole [TS]

01:01:16   there's only one stop at the top ground [TS]

01:01:18   level and there's one stop at the subway [TS]

01:01:20   you're gonna get the satisfying king of [TS]

01:01:22   making progress right is there a [TS]

01:01:24   thermometer to show you when you get [TS]

01:01:25   closer to the subway [TS]

01:01:26   it's a really good question you haven't [TS]

01:01:28   been on this have you what it's not open [TS]

01:01:30   you should get a tour [TS]

01:01:31   the thing is this is why would i would [TS]

01:01:33   have loved a tour and when during my [TS]

01:01:34   political almost came in second for an [TS]

01:01:36   election you should be one of the first [TS]

01:01:38   people in that elevator and now during [TS]

01:01:41   my aspirin days there there were people [TS]

01:01:45   who were already you know public [TS]

01:01:49   officers who were given like advanced [TS]

01:01:52   rides on the train and it looks amazing [TS]

01:01:54   it looks really cool because Seattle has [TS]

01:01:57   never had a subway and also since the [TS]

01:02:00   subway only has three stops it's just a [TS]

01:02:05   huge long tunnel that the train go [TS]

01:02:07   really fast [TS]

01:02:09   you know this that I gotta read about [TS]

01:02:10   this this sounds read this sounds I got [TS]

01:02:12   you know it sounds like I John you know [TS]

01:02:14   me i do not use this word lightly I [TS]

01:02:16   think this sounds like a boondoggle [TS]

01:02:17   seattle is so characterized by [TS]

01:02:21   boondoggles that I don't even know [TS]

01:02:23   anymore whether you know I have to [TS]

01:02:26   really resist the impulse to start [TS]

01:02:29   saying things like Seattle gets what it [TS]

01:02:31   deserves because it consistently votes [TS]

01:02:35   against good practical things including [TS]

01:02:40   me and it boats for like a kind of rule [TS]

01:02:45   by committee process that produces half [TS]

01:02:51   acid- but also mega mega expensive half [TS]

01:02:57   acid- so it's like okay we've got the [TS]

01:03:00   train which wich strokes like in [TS]

01:03:06   nineteen visit rain feels like no I [TS]

01:03:08   gotta tell you what you're saying like [TS]

01:03:09   the outline of that is old trains trains [TS]

01:03:11   are great subways are great [TS]

01:03:12   yeah exactly it sounds to me like [TS]

01:03:14   they're very attracted to these novel [TS]

01:03:16   solutions that don't actually address [TS]

01:03:17   the problem and here's the thing i feel [TS]

01:03:19   like in 1967 when we when we proposed [TS]

01:03:23   building a network of subways here and [TS]

01:03:25   it was voted down by the voters in 1967 [TS]

01:03:29   if we had used the technology available [TS]

01:03:30   to us at the time to build a subway [TS]

01:03:32   network we would have built up a [TS]

01:03:38   perfectly good network of interconnected [TS]

01:03:41   trains using 1967 technology we could [TS]

01:03:44   have done it using 1912 technology and [TS]

01:03:49   built up built a workable system but [TS]

01:03:52   what ends up happening out here is that [TS]

01:03:54   we don't do it don't do it don't do it [TS]

01:03:55   and then when it's finally time to do it [TS]

01:03:58   we decide on the one hand that that the [TS]

01:04:03   people who are pushing for the subway [TS]

01:04:05   are the people who are like still mad [TS]

01:04:08   that we didn't do it 50 years ago so so [TS]

01:04:11   in a way the plan is based on this like [TS]

01:04:14   almost retro desire to do [TS]

01:04:17   have to finally have the thing that we [TS]

01:04:19   should have had but then other people [TS]

01:04:21   attach themselves to it who are who are [TS]

01:04:25   like well you know what tunnel drilling [TS]

01:04:28   technology has really improved in the [TS]

01:04:30   last 40 years and now we can build the [TS]

01:04:33   real technologically advanced super [TS]

01:04:37   version of this thing and so what was [TS]

01:04:42   cool and quaint and good about the idea [TS]

01:04:45   from 50 years ago now gets turned into a [TS]

01:04:49   thing where it's like well modern [TS]

01:04:50   technology requires that we put this [TS]

01:04:53   thing's 500 feet underground which means [TS]

01:04:56   that every time we build the station it [TS]

01:04:58   cost another billion dollars so in order [TS]

01:05:01   to keep prices down we can't build that [TS]

01:05:03   many stations so we're only gonna have [TS]

01:05:05   one station and it's going to be 500 [TS]

01:05:09   feet underground indefinitely [TS]

01:05:13   suddenly you're so many intellectual and [TS]

01:05:16   practical steps away from a good idea [TS]

01:05:18   yeah but it's still it's still kind of a [TS]

01:05:20   good idea it's just there each one of [TS]

01:05:22   those steps took off like twenty to [TS]

01:05:24   fifty percent of the coolness [TS]

01:05:26   yeah the coolness of the technology now [TS]

01:05:28   is dictating the usefulness of the train [TS]

01:05:31   which is only useful if it is accessible [TS]

01:05:36   and the accessibility people who are [TS]

01:05:41   like we'll wait a moment like like I [TS]

01:05:44   don't even know if I would ever take the [TS]

01:05:46   stairs but I'd like there to be some [TS]

01:05:48   stairs [TS]

01:05:49   that's just a comfort level thing I you [TS]

01:05:52   know like I'd like to Baja to smell the [TS]

01:05:55   fresh air [TS]

01:05:57   I look up and see the daylight even from [TS]

01:05:59   500 feet below like but they're like [TS]

01:06:02   well you have to be a raging [TS]

01:06:03   claustrophobic to find that a little bit [TS]

01:06:05   unsettling [TS]

01:06:06   oh my god or just get out you know I [TS]

01:06:07   don't want to get on an elevator unless [TS]

01:06:09   I really really have to let alone if [TS]

01:06:12   that's my concentration three stories i [TS]

01:06:14   will almost always take the steps [TS]

01:06:16   yeah and that's the thing this the [TS]

01:06:18   subway is not fewer than three stories [TS]

01:06:20   and secondly since a couple there i [TS]

01:06:21   don't know this is the same station but [TS]

01:06:23   it looks like it's about i would [TS]

01:06:24   estimate three others were 46 stories [TS]

01:06:27   and 100 stories 300 this [TS]

01:06:30   100 stories down three to seven hundred [TS]

01:06:32   stories everything is you know that just [TS]

01:06:34   the spitball to be against it to be [TS]

01:06:38   getting nowhere but i don't think that [TS]

01:06:39   that is that the mighty this other 1i [TS]

01:06:44   sent you to who [TS]

01:06:46   there's something look like they have [TS]

01:06:47   escalators it's hard to do a podcast and [TS]

01:06:49   you extensive internet research who [TS]

01:06:51   Westhead house I think that you're [TS]

01:06:54   looking this one that has no no see [TS]

01:06:57   that's beacon hill so that's not even [TS]

01:06:58   that's not the one the big wide one what [TS]

01:07:01   is that construction of a brand-new [TS]

01:07:03   someone that's the University of [TS]

01:07:06   Washington so what you're looking for is [TS]

01:07:07   the capitol hill station [TS]

01:07:10   okay and I think you will find see that [TS]

01:07:15   this this this one that you sent me from [TS]

01:07:18   the University of Washington that looks [TS]

01:07:19   like a decent subway station it's like [TS]

01:07:21   45 stories underground got some elevator [TS]

01:07:23   sure but they're escalators to the [TS]

01:07:26   beacon hill one does not have well let's [TS]

01:07:32   let's try to chase though the CD current [TS]

01:07:34   number and see I'm trying to get [TS]

01:07:38   thinking here of like the way that they [TS]

01:07:39   built the essential subway system in san [TS]

01:07:43   francisco and how even today people [TS]

01:07:45   laugh at that because it's a diagonal [TS]

01:07:47   line like that's the subways but but it [TS]

01:07:49   actually does it is it does serve a [TS]

01:07:51   purpose i mean it is extremely busy [TS]

01:07:54   during the day and the stops are pretty [TS]

01:07:56   saying like but they move a lot of [TS]

01:07:58   people over that whatever that 22 23 [TS]

01:08:01   miles and it does it [TS]

01:08:03   I can't imagine not having it because [TS]

01:08:05   now I mean now they're like try to get [TS]

01:08:07   less and less stuff on market street [TS]

01:08:08   because it's such a shitshow on market [TS]

01:08:10   street right now i mean i think they [TS]

01:08:12   recently passed a law about wasn't no [TS]

01:08:16   private cars during the day or something [TS]

01:08:17   you can't like make a left turn on there [TS]

01:08:20   anyway there's all kinds of things are [TS]

01:08:21   trying to do with that what a mess [TS]

01:08:24   I mean it's all it's all a mess and I [TS]

01:08:26   and I really don't wanna I don't wanna [TS]

01:08:28   to slip into this posture of like [TS]

01:08:31   Seattle just [TS]

01:08:33   seattle just deserve what it gets [TS]

01:08:36   because because something about the [TS]

01:08:40   process of making decisions here is so [TS]

01:08:42   irretrievably broken and has been for so [TS]

01:08:46   long that it's just it's baked into it [TS]

01:08:50   you know like you cannot propose [TS]

01:08:52   something good here without it being [TS]

01:08:57   ruined [TS]

01:08:57   not not by any one person not by the [TS]

01:09:01   big-money interests but just by a [TS]

01:09:03   collective action of people here that [TS]

01:09:07   that that combination of like a busybody [TS]

01:09:10   NIMBY Democrat yeah I don't like this [TS]

01:09:15   person already you know what I mean like [TS]

01:09:17   they just everybody's got to have [TS]

01:09:19   everybody's gotta stand up at the public [TS]

01:09:21   meeting and say their two cents and and [TS]

01:09:24   and yet you know there's it never gets [TS]

01:09:28   like at the end of the meeting they just [TS]

01:09:31   adjourn until the next meeting no [TS]

01:09:33   decision ever really gets made until [TS]

01:09:35   it's just too late and then the decision [TS]

01:09:37   gets made by somebody in you know by [TS]

01:09:40   some buddy in an office somewhere who [TS]

01:09:44   just had to you know just had to choose [TS]

01:09:46   because the their breaking ground [TS]

01:09:49   tomorrow i don't know i don't understand [TS]

01:09:52   how how we could be on the one hand in [TS]

01:09:57   this town screaming at each other about [TS]

01:10:01   density and affordability and on the [TS]

01:10:02   other hand to square blocks of [TS]

01:10:05   businesses in the very central core of [TS]

01:10:09   Capitol Hill have been reduced to an [TS]

01:10:12   elevator shaft and there's no you know [TS]

01:10:16   and and it's nobody's fault right [TS]

01:10:18   there's nobody to point out and say what [TS]

01:10:20   were you thinking [TS]

01:10:21   why do what was there a public comment [TS]

01:10:23   process [TS]

01:10:24   oh yes there was 46 years we took public [TS]

01:10:27   comments [TS]

01:10:28   it's like oh can I see a record of those [TS]

01:10:31   comments and you know it's like six [TS]

01:10:33   years they held hearings where people in [TS]

01:10:35   tin foil hats with like a like a dog in [TS]

01:10:40   the front basket of their bike stood up [TS]

01:10:43   and yelled about chemtrails [TS]

01:10:45   and the city peep the city and county [TS]

01:10:49   administrator's SAT there and took it [TS]

01:10:52   never never hammered the gavel down [TS]

01:10:56   never said this is not a productive [TS]

01:10:58   process they just SAT and listened all [TS]

01:11:01   those public comments and then they [TS]

01:11:02   decided then you know they went back to [TS]

01:11:04   their officer like you know we need an [TS]

01:11:06   elevator shaft would not be cool and [TS]

01:11:10   thinking about planning for the future [TS]

01:11:11   mean this is a lot of instant [TS]

01:11:13   restructure too so I guess you already [TS]

01:11:15   said this sort of but it's a lot of [TS]

01:11:16   infrastructure that will end up [TS]

01:11:18   committing you to an increasingly costly [TS]

01:11:21   and not very flexible way of growing [TS]

01:11:23   system has no matter what you do it's [TS]

01:11:26   gonna have to be 25 stories underground [TS]

01:11:28   and disruptive to everything above it [TS]

01:11:31   and then make an elevator nipple [TS]

01:11:32   yep yep [TS]

01:11:36   now if I were in charge em I would have [TS]

01:11:40   just left that swords and butane lighter [TS]

01:11:46   store because eternal flame [TS]

01:11:48   well yeah because you can get your he [TS]

01:11:51   could get your horoscope and a little [TS]

01:11:53   scroll there after you about your magic [TS]

01:11:58   gathering cards you could go over and [TS]

01:11:59   and get some essential oils and filters [TS]

01:12:03   for your faucet quote-unquote faucet [TS]

01:12:07   filters [TS]

01:12:07   that's right that's right that's right [TS]

01:12:09   it's a water pipe personal package back [TS]

01:12:13   only to see the sign [TS]

01:12:14   yeah look at the sign that says right [TS]

01:12:16   there we're going to open a restaurant [TS]

01:12:17   you and me [TS]

01:12:19   yeah I feel like opening a restaurant I [TS]

01:12:22   feel like this is this is something i've [TS]

01:12:24   been saying to my friends for many many [TS]

01:12:25   years which is if you don't like working [TS]

01:12:29   in a restaurant is the briefs the [TS]

01:12:30   problem [TS]

01:12:31   yeah why would you open a restaurant [TS]

01:12:32   you're just giving yourself a job [TS]

01:12:34   working in a restaurant cake we pay [TS]

01:12:35   someone else to open a restaurant I feel [TS]

01:12:38   like making food and selling food here's [TS]

01:12:40   the only way to do it is to sell one [TS]

01:12:43   thing which is to sell gourmet corn dogs [TS]

01:12:48   ok if you become the gourmet corn dog [TS]

01:12:50   king and all you sell his gourmet [TS]

01:12:53   corndogs and let's say one of the things [TS]

01:12:55   chocolate milkshakes gourmet corndogs [TS]

01:12:57   and chocolate conversations all you sell [TS]

01:12:59   yeah then you don't have to worry about [TS]

01:13:02   anything you have to pickle anything you [TS]

01:13:04   don't have to explain your menu to [TS]

01:13:05   anybody [TS]

01:13:06   gourmet corn dogs are expensive because [TS]

01:13:10   they say gourmet so you can sure you can [TS]

01:13:14   charge a lot more you can actually [TS]

01:13:15   profit from your job right you can sell [TS]

01:13:17   a gourmet corndog for what eight bucks [TS]

01:13:20   what if we had a just what if we had six [TS]

01:13:22   kinds of sauces and then some bread [TS]

01:13:27   hmm so-so we call Johnny sauce and [TS]

01:13:30   coming Johnny sauce Asian sauce really [TS]

01:13:33   all about the sauce get a flight of [TS]

01:13:34   sauces and whatever fucking bread nobody [TS]

01:13:36   really cares it just is what it is [TS]

01:13:37   locally sourced from a gravy [TS]

01:13:39   what are the six sources of the six out [TS]

01:13:42   of the wood called the parent sauces the [TS]

01:13:43   God sauces [TS]

01:13:44   yeah but you gotta best male pop you got [TS]

01:13:48   ravioli owes what's your top sauce with [TS]

01:13:50   my top sauce [TS]

01:13:51   what's the tops off that at the six [TS]

01:13:53   sauce at the top of the sauce chain [TS]

01:13:55   yeah she said no sauce on top chef not [TS]

01:13:57   too long ago and I don't remember them i [TS]

01:14:00   think bolin 8-spoke mazes the top sauce [TS]

01:14:02   that's that's a media tomato sauce [TS]

01:14:04   yeah but it's more meat than tomato [TS]

01:14:06   that's right cool isn't it [TS]

01:14:08   see we can work all this out johnny [TS]

01:14:10   sauces you come on in there and it's [TS]

01:14:12   mostly about the sauce you get a cup of [TS]

01:14:13   sauce and then maybe the spoons are made [TS]

01:14:16   out of bread bread spoons [TS]

01:14:19   you're right and we started this [TS]

01:14:21   business I don't have three what they're [TS]

01:14:23   gluten-free uh I guess they could just [TS]

01:14:26   they could just use a actually usable [TS]

01:14:28   spoon you know computing overusing just [TS]

01:14:31   stick with the corn dogs but now [TS]

01:14:32   yeah that's right gourmet corn dog how [TS]

01:14:34   much would you pay for a gourmet [TS]

01:14:35   coordinate tonight except a 675 what if [TS]

01:14:38   it was nine bucks sure it's kind of the [TS]

01:14:40   sauce that comes with the ramekin of [TS]

01:14:43   homemade ketchup idea that pickled [TS]

01:14:49   cucumbers know what gourmet corndog [TS]

01:14:54   chocolate shake those are your options [TS]

01:14:56   alright i'm in i guess would you spend [TS]

01:14:58   nine dollars on a gourmet corner how [TS]

01:15:00   gourmet would have to be I would try it [TS]

01:15:02   at least once i would have to know to a [TS]

01:15:04   fair certainty that Dad that it did his [TS]

01:15:06   artisanal ingredients and I'm just some [TS]

01:15:08   kind of a switcheroo know the hot dog is [TS]

01:15:11   made a all locally sourced from within a [TS]

01:15:14   hundred miles of here okay [TS]

01:15:16   in court the cornmeal that goes into the [TS]

01:15:18   corn dog part is from non-gmo corn [TS]

01:15:22   that's heritage corn all heritage going [TS]

01:15:26   against got everybody's got good [TS]

01:15:27   insurance if any range farmers that's [TS]

01:15:29   right native american heritage corn maze [TS]

01:15:32   runners it's fried in artisanal pork fat [TS]

01:15:38   which is then used to power the food [TS]

01:15:41   truck that's right the pork fat is it's [TS]

01:15:44   a it's bio diesel truck uh-huh and then [TS]

01:15:47   the chocolate milkshake is made out of [TS]

01:15:50   100-percent sustainably sourced cocoa [TS]

01:15:54   where we have relationships with all [TS]

01:15:57   those farmers all the cocoa farmers and [TS]

01:16:00   I are you or is probably going to be me [TS]

01:16:02   we have to go down to Central America [TS]

01:16:03   all the time and meet with them your [TS]

01:16:06   daughter could drive there [TS]

01:16:07   that's right we'll drive there in our [TS]

01:16:10   Jeep all that stuff shade-grown mm okay [TS]

01:16:13   i was gonna say anything [TS]

01:16:14   yeah and then we know we know the milk [TS]

01:16:17   producers and and the cows all have [TS]

01:16:19   names on Luisa that's right this is [TS]

01:16:24   Luis's that today we're drinking Louise [TS]

01:16:26   shakes asses and and you know and then [TS]

01:16:31   the milkshakes are also nine dollars [TS]

01:16:33   not exactly what I had in mind but i [TS]

01:16:34   would i would invest in / eat there [TS]

01:16:37   sometimes I would I would you would [TS]

01:16:40   invest though that's what really matters [TS]

01:16:41   not a lot don't have a lot of dough but [TS]

01:16:44   i would put something into that you [TS]

01:16:46   really care about is a passion project [TS]

01:16:47   for John you can put you know what you [TS]

01:16:49   could drive this up right next to the [TS]

01:16:50   elevator nipple [TS]

01:16:51   mm I feel like no I'm not passionate [TS]

01:16:54   about this i feel that i do not want to [TS]

01:16:59   be in the food service business I don't [TS]

01:17:01   want to work at the shop and all I don't [TS]

01:17:05   want to I mean I don't even want to sell [TS]

01:17:08   vintage menswear which is a thing I [TS]

01:17:11   actually am passionate about because I [TS]

01:17:16   think I would be disappointed everyday [TS]

01:17:18   guy would come in I see this all the [TS]

01:17:20   time guy comes into the shop looking [TS]

01:17:21   around I go hey how you doing nice to [TS]

01:17:24   you know I caa1 looking for today [TS]

01:17:27   just browsing ok the guy takes a jacket [TS]

01:17:31   down off the rack and I kind of stand up [TS]

01:17:33   from my stool and I go oh that's a cool [TS]

01:17:36   jacket a Kennedy administration it's [TS]

01:17:40   sold by by a kind of a venerable let the [TS]

01:17:43   guys already paying it back up [TS]

01:17:45   yeah I'm like okay so sit back down and [TS]

01:17:48   look at the internet for a while and he [TS]

01:17:49   walks around he picks up a thing and I [TS]

01:17:52   see and i'm really into this and I stand [TS]

01:17:54   up and go home [TS]

01:17:55   wow did very nice choice like you have a [TS]

01:17:57   really good I that is a pair of court [TS]

01:18:01   upon Alton's but you know sold by brooks [TS]

01:18:04   brothers and he puts him down and [TS]

01:18:06   wanders around and then he comes and I'm [TS]

01:18:08   just like Jesus question the bunny and I [TS]

01:18:10   sit down on the stool again and then he [TS]

01:18:12   comes over and he buys you know like a [TS]

01:18:18   pair of chinese-made socks that i'm [TS]

01:18:19   selling just because i have to you know [TS]

01:18:22   I have to have something in there that [TS]

01:18:24   actually sells and win Leiter cases [TS]

01:18:28   yeah or then he comes off as i can use [TS]

01:18:29   about through or whatever and I'm just [TS]

01:18:32   like how nobody gives a shit about the [TS]

01:18:35   stuff that I care about and and I have [TS]

01:18:38   and I'm here to serve them perhaps [TS]

01:18:40   already says anything about hugo boss [TS]

01:18:43   and aren't something like that where I'm [TS]

01:18:45   like oh fuck you know get out of here [TS]

01:18:49   hit the streets [TS]

01:18:51   mhm you're right it's a recipe for [TS]

01:18:54   heartbreak [TS]

01:18:55   that's the thing i don't need to be any [TS]

01:18:57   more sad know [TS]