Roderick on the Line

Ep. 142: "Boner to the Stars"

 

  this episode of Roderick on the line is [TS]

  sponsored by cards against humanity this [TS]

  month they ask Seth boyer to help me say [TS]

  hi to john john do [TS]

  [Music] [TS]

  hello hi John how's it going good how [TS]

  are you going I'm going great [TS]

  I'm always checking my audio levels and [TS]

  delivering packets we're good man [TS]

  delivering packets power GTI Woody's app [TS]

  you sound like you're really awake [TS]

  well you know Merlin what I've been [TS]

  doing I been looking at my facebook know [TS]

  how's that going it's pretty mixed bag i [TS]

  gotta say anything lot of kids uh you [TS]

  know that's funny because I I understand [TS]

  the appeal right I I every time i go on [TS]

  facebook which is to say once a week I [TS]

  see lots of fascinating links to very [TS]

  interesting articles some of them [TS]

  genuinely interesting and I and I go [TS]

  down the facebook hole and I get in [TS]

  there and see things and and I answer [TS]

  all the facebook messages that I get [TS]

  from people that probably could have [TS]

  just emailed me [TS]

  yeah and I accept the 15 friend requests [TS]

  that have piled up since I was there [TS]

  last and then I go ahead and shut it all [TS]

  down to the light south and and I get it [TS]

  I get why it's there i get i get a lot [TS]

  of I get it I get it but I i'm not i'm [TS]

  not a hater [TS]

  hmm but uh but it's against or not it's [TS]

  not it's not where I live [TS]

  you don't see people just be happy with [TS]

  their stuff yeah that's right I'm a guy [TS]

  who likes other people to just be happy [TS]

  with their stuff [TS]

  Hakuna Matata never guess the namaste [TS]

  joke around [TS]

  mm-hmm [TS]

  did you ever seen yourself 20 years ago [TS]

  not only having something in your life [TS]

  called friend request but that's [TS]

  something that you just have to deal [TS]

  with on a regular basis i think i did I [TS]

  think haha i think i knew that was [TS]

  coming it either thing that I periods me [TS]

  is people who don't put pictures of [TS]

  themselves in their stuff em you know [TS]

  like like me I guess I was like a [TS]

  profile picture [TS]

  no i think i think it I think what it is [TS]

  is that an Instagram is like this and [TS]

  facebook to like there are people who [TS]

  are who are genuinely working as [TS]

  photographers who use those things to [TS]

  showcase some of their photography and i [TS]

  don't know i don't mean just [TS]

  professionally but like there this is [TS]

  their their sandbox where they're at the [TS]

  platform is that where they play around [TS]

  there taking pictures of other things [TS]

  but then there are just a lot of people [TS]

  who are on there and i don't mean taking [TS]

  pictures of their food but like doing [TS]

  our part see pictures of their plants [TS]

  and pictures of their dog and empty park [TS]

  benches [TS]

  yeah this type of thing and after a [TS]

  while a ana and I approve all that but [TS]

  every you know every 15 to 20 pictures [TS]

  the other post one of yourself [TS]

  mmm got to take a selfie and put it on [TS]

  there baby maybe you should have to [TS]

  maybe it should be in the terms and [TS]

  conditions like network we got to know [TS]

  that you're here you know [TS]

  yeah well i also like all of these [TS]

  things are meant are ultimately meant as [TS]

  as personal profiles right know who is [TS]

  going to go on because because I mean if [TS]

  you if all you think of if the only [TS]

  people following your Instagram account [TS]

  are your friends and they are you know [TS]

  looking at pictures of of plants that [TS]

  you took [TS]

  I don't I don't understand why you're [TS]

  there right the whole premise is that a [TS]

  stranger is going to be interested in a [TS]

  post that you posted that got forwarded [TS]

  somewhere else and follow it back to [TS]

  there and then start following you [TS]

  somebody that you don't know that's why [TS]

  any of us have more than 15 followers [TS]

  and so when that person then follows you [TS]

  and is interested in your views and [TS]

  interested in your the look of what you [TS]

  interested in your aesthetic then that [TS]

  person legitimately and understandably [TS]

  becomes interested in you and then they [TS]

  want to see a freaking picture of you [TS]

  huh [TS]

  and so right that that's there are there [TS]

  are relatively few there are pictures [TS]

  who take not but photos of oneself and [TS]

  then there are people who very rarely [TS]

  photographed themselves and i have to [TS]

  say it there seems to be a concomitant [TS]

  with getting older like maybe you don't [TS]

  want your meat out there five times a [TS]

  day [TS]

  yeah but that's the thing of just like [TS]

  get you know get over your meat beard [TS]

  it's you gotta gotta put it there even a [TS]

  good shape face level because we're [TS]

  looking at each other [TS]

  its the hole i mean its social [TS]

  networking we are looking at each other [TS]

  and all the time i'll i'll see some [TS]

  interesting thread i'll go there I'll be [TS]

  like oh I like these pictures [TS]

  oh that's cool that's cool and then when [TS]

  i get to like picture 50 and I've seen [TS]

  no-selfie I'm like oh wait a minute do [TS]

  you really think that your pictures [TS]

  fucking matter I mean do you really [TS]

  think that were scared to see pictures [TS]

  of flowers and whatever else telling me [TS]

  it's a kind of performance and part of [TS]

  that performance has got to be even if [TS]

  it's just like a picture of you [TS]

  reflected in the in the window of a shop [TS]

  that you're taking a picture of like a [TS]

  little something a little sign that you [TS]

  are that you are here with us here with [TS]

  the residence [TS]

  let's see what i notice I'm not on [TS]

  instagram i'm not on facebook but I do [TS]

  take pictures and when I look over [TS]

  well first of all obviously because of [TS]

  having a phone with a camera I do a lot [TS]

  of take pictures of funny signs just [TS]

  because I thought it was funny i don't [TS]

  always post you do that you do that yes [TS]

  we about [TS]

  you know I there's a lot of don't post [TS]

  on the curator Tara very editorial as [TS]

  they say you but you know what you know [TS]

  what I wish we had more of like I i [TS]

  think we have and I've taken a fair [TS]

  number of pictures of my kid at first [TS]

  I'll just say it we do not have that [TS]

  many pictures of our family together we [TS]

  take pictures of the kid we take [TS]

  pictures of the kid and one of us but we [TS]

  don't also my wife's not a big fan of [TS]

  being photographed nor my daughter but [TS]

  it's but it's funny because like I look [TS]

  at family photos from my childhood and [TS]

  there's a lot of photos of the family [TS]

  posed pictures where we all took a photo [TS]

  together and we don't I don't flick this [TS]

  maybe it's just me but I think there's [TS]

  not as much of that as there used to be [TS]

  especially given the raw tonnage of [TS]

  photos that are being taken [TS]

  yeah you have many of those of the [TS]

  family unit well we make it we make a [TS]

  point you know to a every once in awhile [TS]

  and I mean we did it we did it just [TS]

  yesterday we were all together on a [TS]

  ferry boat and we were taking pictures [TS]

  of the waves and taking pictures of the [TS]

  birds and taking pictures of the baby [TS]

  looking at the waves and the birds take [TS]

  pictures of the misspelling tell you [TS]

  that's right taking pictures of the [TS]

  hilarious sign on the men's room door up [TS]

  an appetite and then it was like oh wait [TS]

  a minute let's stop and take a picture [TS]

  of ourselves together and we did it [TS]

  selfie style but here we all are and and [TS]

  and the reason that we do it is because [TS]

  when you look back at the pictures from [TS]

  three years ago all those like men's [TS]

  room door and bird pictures are made a [TS]

  hundred times more interesting if [TS]

  there's a picture of you in there to [TS]

  locate the time and place and show the [TS]

  show the gray and your beard and show [TS]

  how much the baby's grown and etc etc [TS]

  right like like if you if you if you're [TS]

  not if you're not marking time with the [TS]

  one thing that we actually care about [TS]

  which is our ourselves our lives right [TS]

  and here it is buried in his very is [TS]

  very different cause like I again east [TS]

  cost money to take pictures right you [TS]

  gotta buy the film you got to get [TS]

  processed you couldn't just take [TS]

  pictures of everything [TS]

  unless your kid got the camera went [TS]

  crazy or something but yeah there's such [TS]

  a huge shift [TS]

  I mean think about now I mean like on [TS]

  the one hand the stuff people post is [TS]

  more about like what I'm seeing you [TS]

  think about you know I mean like for the [TS]

  guns people on tumblr is the closest [TS]

  thing I have to Instagram and it's a lot [TS]

  of you know stuff like funny signs or [TS]

  here's my food or whatever but you know [TS]

  it's it's a way of saying is a the shot [TS]

  that you chose the thing that's in it [TS]

  how you shot it its kind of made to be [TS]

  posted and it's made to be uh this is [TS]

  what it's like to be me in some ways yes [TS]

  exactly that's exactly right and and the [TS]

  idea the idea that that a selfie is like [TS]

  egotistical is so hilarious to me [TS]

  because really it's the idea that [TS]

  anybody gives a fuck about your pictures [TS]

  at all thats egotistical like your [TS]

  picture of a bird or flower manhole [TS]

  cover is something that we should [TS]

  celebrate because because you framed it [TS]

  in in your phone like no we the only [TS]

  thing that's interesting about us is [TS]

  that we are alive and alive for a short [TS]

  time right and if we were if we all live [TS]

  forever [TS]

  none of this would be interesting no one [TS]

  would take a picture of a single fucking [TS]

  thing because it would be like yeah [TS]

  right yeah right like I saw it right [TS]

  trees grow trees live and die and we are [TS]

  still here so uh I don't need to see a [TS]

  picture of the past they think yeah yeah [TS]

  I think that's interesting about the [TS]

  past is that is that we are that we are [TS]

  finite but but you know the other thing [TS]

  is think about like how different that [TS]

  is even the photos that i would take [TS]

  with my old crummy camera like our show [TS]

  art with the old crome camera on my old [TS]

  crummy phone like you think about like [TS]

  what's changed and now like it doesn't [TS]

  cost anything except for the space on [TS]

  your phone to take a photo so it's it's [TS]

  it's economical to the point of almost [TS]

  being free other big difference we get [TS]

  to see how it turned out and maybe take [TS]

  15 photos of the same thing but also [TS]

  kind of long lines of our last episode [TS]

  where we talked about you know what what [TS]

  you post what people say about it [TS]

  I'm kind of meticulous about what I [TS]

  leave out of photos now way more than I [TS]

  to be where I'm much less likely just [TS]

  because I even if i'm not planning to [TS]

  post there's still some part of me [TS]

  that's like oh I don't want that mess in [TS]

  the photo right there or I don't know [TS]

  what I mean there's dirt on this table [TS]

  I never would have thought of that when [TS]

  I was a kid I still not great so my [TS]

  favorite photos a photo of my parents my [TS]

  dad smoking a cigarette of course my mom [TS]

  smoking a cigarette of course and she's [TS]

  just walked up to him at the table and [TS]

  they've done something playful and now [TS]

  she's giving him a hug and that's [TS]

  awesome i will treasure that photo but [TS]

  also it's just all the shit in the [TS]

  background that's awesome [TS]

  yes like it's a kitchen in a house where [TS]

  people live there is an old-school coke [TS]

  can from the nineteen seventies that [TS]

  just looks awesome [TS]

  yes in you know it's got that all that [TS]

  kind of ugly shit that every family had [TS]

  in their house dumb dishes you know [TS]

  unclean kitchen and it's it's delightful [TS]

  and I i would be i have to say a little [TS]

  bit reluctant to take that photo today i [TS]

  am only partly conference about why that [TS]

  is [TS]

  do you feel such things do you do you [TS]

  think about a lot about something you're [TS]

  more freewheeling about what your [TS]

  photograph [TS]

  no I mean I I'm very I'm very aware of [TS]

  the frame but i always try to include [TS]

  something in the frame that that adds [TS]

  that context that you're saying you know [TS]

  a like a car or a all the stuff that you [TS]

  think of as as like garbage extraneous [TS]

  beverage ephemera but that is really the [TS]

  thing that 15 years from now you're [TS]

  gonna look back and go oh my god I [TS]

  remember that car [TS]

  yeah I'm grandparents house there's a [TS]

  picture of their they're ugly AMC in in [TS]

  the in the driveway which is fun to see [TS]

  that you have the old AMC by my [TS]

  grandfather had an AMC dealership and [TS]

  national AMC dealership with end [TS]

  yeah are you kidding me no no I'm pretty [TS]

  sure your grandfather had a national or [TS]

  punitive worked at it but we were we [TS]

  were automobile people at one point I [TS]

  did not know that after all this time to [TS]

  discover something that interesting [TS]

  well there you go this is 1am cement [TS]

  something move yeah but what's great [TS]

  about the photo is the stuff that was [TS]

  not meant to be in the photo which is I [TS]

  go oh look at that [TS]

  I see grandma's rose garden you can see [TS]

  it must be well i think most CEOs [TS]

  holidays holidays my grandfather would [TS]

  always put the flag out and seeing their [TS]

  front porch and how it was arranged at [TS]

  that time that's like that all that [TS]

  stuff is all like that's the best part [TS]

  of it that's what makes the photo so [TS]

  great you know well and yeah so I so I [TS]

  feel I feel like I mean I have a lot of [TS]

  I have a lot of friends that post a lot [TS]

  of pictures that fall into the you know [TS]

  think the coffee table book category [TS]

  right where we're like 20 years ago they [TS]

  went into a Barnes & Noble and found at [TS]

  ashen published book on on fire hydrants [TS]

  in America someday i will take photos of [TS]

  birds on wires yeah and then they [TS]

  they're out with their camera and [TS]

  they're like I want to do this I want to [TS]

  do something like this and they develop [TS]

  a theme like I'm the person that takes [TS]

  pictures of a you know manhole covers or [TS]

  whatever and and I have a friend who has [TS]

  a boo-boo as a blog called Street seats [TS]

  and all she does is take pictures of [TS]

  chairs that people have left on the side [TS]

  of the road and it's wonderful because [TS]

  the chairs are very evocative and it's a [TS]

  variance of you know the limitations i [TS]

  contribute to one there's nothing but [TS]

  mattresses mattresses history inspired [TS]

  by my friend John Gruber who every time [TS]

  he sees when he says this kid will take [TS]

  a nap when I get a but but ultimately [TS]

  like uh ultimately you know you want [TS]

  some of the character of the curator in [TS]

  there that's that's and I think more and [TS]

  more now the idea of like that [TS]

  journalists are invisible and that [TS]

  though that they're writing in in the [TS]

  omniscient and if and dispassionate [TS]

  voice and that curators are invisible [TS]

  and the work speaks for itself and all [TS]

  this i feel that is less and less [TS]

  convincing now and that there never was [TS]

  a 0 there ever was a journalistic voice [TS]

  that was you know that was completely [TS]

  objective [TS]

  and to continue to pretend is a and [TS]

  maybe doing a disservice that there is a [TS]

  way to be to strive for objectivity but [TS]

  have a subjective voice at the same time [TS]

  and that is you know that is that that [TS]

  the voice can be personal but the [TS]

  thoughts are still owe still striving to [TS]

  be a as objective as possible and you [TS]

  can have because there are tons of it [TS]

  tons of examples of people where the [TS]

  voice is very objective but the thoughts [TS]

  are incredibly subjective anytime you [TS]

  read The Wall Street Journal you see [TS]

  like the the objective voice masks what [TS]

  is ultimately a very pointed worldview [TS]

  right and that's the that's the failure [TS]

  of the of the objective journalist I [TS]

  mean that the most basic level the most [TS]

  rain bring that obvious thing that's [TS]

  always worth mentioning is that what you [TS]

  choose to cover is a voice exactly like [TS]

  what you pick as the top story how you [TS]

  write the lead or the headline or [TS]

  what-have-you like all those all of [TS]

  those things are a kind of voice but [TS]

  doesn't you know even with that there's [TS]

  no way you can disappear from that right [TS]

  and so let's let's stop pretending and [TS]

  make the make the personal voice just [TS]

  acknowledge it and say like hi I'm I'm [TS]

  the reporter i am writing this article [TS]

  and here's why this interest me and then [TS]

  strive for some objectivity in your [TS]

  thoughts and that what that involves is [TS]

  like openly visibly questioning your own [TS]

  assumptions in the thing that you write [TS]

  and I feel like that's true in [TS]

  photojournalism to and in just the fun [TS]

  sort of a pseudo photojournalism that [TS]

  were all practicing now it's like wire [TS]

  you know like who are you why are not [TS]

  only where are you taking these pictures [TS]

  but like who are you [TS]

  well this is where i put a little on [TS]

  buck at how I think it's I love that hat [TS]

  that's a great hat loves pro-wrestling [TS]

  your bark at the bar that um and [TS]

  I invoice really douchey but I'm you [TS]

  know I think it depends on who you think [TS]

  about as your audience because it's [TS]

  almost like the way you do a certain [TS]

  kind of line reading of exactly the same [TS]

  same line you know you can think about a [TS]

  word like that a word that I love a word [TS]

  like Hello like how you say hello could [TS]

  be very funny or very serious or very [TS]

  grave or invoke something so when I go I [TS]

  know my family knows i'm making a joke [TS]

  about Project Runway that Project Runway [TS]

  joke you know what I say [TS]

  haha that's a different kind of hello [TS]

  hello hello [TS]

  that's a different kind of hello right [TS]

  it's all the same number no I don't want [TS]

  any of these fellows from you [TS]

  hello no thank you and then all the [TS]

  other contestants respond so I that but [TS]

  I guess what I think of like yes way I [TS]

  think most people are doing its thing I [TS]

  like what I see and it's not my opinion [TS]

  it's my sensibility I think people like [TS]

  showing other people with their [TS]

  sensibility is some people like a you [TS]

  know CSC this is a number so great for [TS]

  summer so terrible for lots of things I [TS]

  think it's great that is following [TS]

  obsessives so or finding people who [TS]

  curate strange kind of obsessions like [TS]

  four jet for example you ever seen a [TS]

  rich kids on instagram i get forwarded [TS]

  that all the time it's really it's [TS]

  really funny [TS]

  it's super funny and I get forwarded it [TS]

  at in reply to my contention that no one [TS]

  has it easy because I make that [TS]

  contention periodically but no idea [TS]

  exactly proves that person doesn't have [TS]

  it easy and as they have a helicopter [TS]

  and 17 watches and they're still unhappy [TS]

  and have to show it to you before they [TS]

  feel anything [TS]

  yeah I that is that's it's self-evident [TS]

  that's my reply to when people are like [TS]

  no one has it easy what about this and [TS]

  they send me some pictures of a kid in a [TS]

  in a Learjet with the what [TS]

  20 watchers and I'm like do you not see [TS]

  that this is a very unhappy person you [TS]

  know so many people refuse to accept the [TS]

  even assholes are unhappy so unhappy [TS]

  that's why they're assholes I mean that [TS]

  it doesn't hurt [TS]

  present company excepted of course [TS]

  but-but-but alive buddy in the cat Casey [TS]

  I'm not going with this but like you [TS]

  know here's the thing [TS]

  there are topics and there's a reason [TS]

  i'm not on Instagram there's a variety [TS]

  of there are thousands of reasons I'm [TS]

  not [TS]

  instagram I mean least of which is I [TS]

  don't want to feel compelled to have to [TS]

  have my sensibility on instagram i think [TS]

  the app is weird i think the whole [TS]

  environment is strange but you know a [TS]

  big part of it is voices hopefully the [TS]

  ugliest thing i'll say this month now I [TS]

  don't need to see anymore latte art I'm [TS]

  good like a desert with one bite out of [TS]

  it I get it [TS]

  that's really really cool when I hope [TS]

  that is the ugliest thing you say this [TS]

  month i really do for you and we're [TS]

  thinking about the black eye [TS]

  I agree and I don't you know I i went [TS]

  onto Instagram instead of going on to [TS]

  something else and now I you know I'm [TS]

  here trapped there and like I said the [TS]

  other day like there really are only [TS]

  five places I go on the internet and [TS]

  embarrasses me every time I pick up my [TS]

  phone every time I pick up jonathan [TS]

  coulton phone and scroll through four [TS]

  hundred apps [TS]

  I'm like there and 13 pages on my iphone [TS]

  I'm like what am I doing with my life I [TS]

  don't have any of these amazing apps [TS]

  yeah and I think I when I stare at the [TS]

  internet and I think like I should go [TS]

  I should go on the internet more and [TS]

  have more places where I go and do [TS]

  activities but i think i do see the [TS]

  internet quite a bit I think I follow [TS]

  I'm a link follower I you know I hyper a [TS]

  hyperlink em from one link to another at [TS]

  hyper speed is the ax HTML for that IQs [TS]

  XHTML hello which is valid and I go I [TS]

  link around and I zip and zap and I see [TS]

  like 15 celebrities who married a cousin [TS]

  and I see you know you don't give you [TS]

  followed us because you might be [TS]

  interested in ones that take you to zerg [TS]

  net minder to blur get paid dot out [TS]

  brave dot uh are you deserve that's my [TS]

  favorite because you click i don't know [TS]

  talking something about this the other [TS]

  day we both like I don't know why [TS]

  fucking click on this it was I don't [TS]

  usually do this hardly ever but is it [TS]

  was like something like 17 gay [TS]

  celebrities who played straight people [TS]

  it's like Nathan Lane but what I [TS]

  literally Nathan Lane is gay [TS]

  holy shit i can't believe it i'm so glad [TS]

  i click on this when you go to this [TS]

  internet page get on the landing page [TS]

  and you don't even see the article you [TS]

  see a page of list of articles where [TS]

  yours is the the top-left pic but i [TS]

  think it's it's yeah it's it's it's [TS]

  listicles all the way down [TS]

  well I you know I got bullied not [TS]

  bullied that's that's sorry trigger [TS]

  alerts I got uh I was encouraged by my [TS]

  social network in real life my for my [TS]

  words i'm so fucking sick of war might [TS]

  be meatspace social network of actual [TS]

  meat meat people maybe meet singles that [TS]

  unit up in circles that I know that were [TS]

  like listen they said to me the [TS]

  beginning of the this this football [TS]

  season they were like listen we want you [TS]

  to come and watch football with us every [TS]

  Sunday but you can't just come and sit [TS]

  in the back and eat the food and [TS]

  everyone so I'll yell sports and spill [TS]

  your non-alcoholic beer right we want [TS]

  you to sit in the cassette on the couch [TS]

  get engaged in the game be part of the [TS]

  be part of the action [TS]

  obviously it was a kind of a second [TS]

  chance or last chance like okay you [TS]

  really want you here but that we get you [TS]

  gotta play by the rules [TS]

  I mean I go I go to lots of sports [TS]

  events and I have a very good time at [TS]

  the move and I'll and I enjoy my friends [TS]

  that like sports and so this was like [TS]

  hey we are friends and this is what we [TS]

  like to do and we're inviting you into [TS]

  our that but it's their world it's [TS]

  that's right there like this is our [TS]

  Colts were inviting you to church on [TS]

  Sunday you don't sit-in up in the pew at [TS]

  the back of the church and make fart [TS]

  sounds people come to church with us not [TS]

  pirates [TS]

  you don't have to you don't have to take [TS]

  communion you don't have to go up and [TS]

  and and and do a confession but if [TS]

  you're gonna come to church with us you [TS]

  know coming like sing the hymns and be a [TS]

  part of the scene so I was like okay I [TS]

  do want to do that and I went and I got [TS]

  in and we got involved watching the [TS]

  seahawks and and mostly watching my [TS]

  friends get very emotional emotional [TS]

  about it about a sports event [TS]

  and I was you know I've been watching [TS]

  that my whole life because my dad would [TS]

  get very emotional about sports events [TS]

  and I don't have a comment about it one [TS]

  way or the other I'm not critiquing at [TS]

  all I'm just observing it and saying [TS]

  like here we are and we are very upset [TS]

  right now I am upset on behalf of [TS]

  everyone about the way that that last [TS]

  play was that play was handled and I [TS]

  feel like that running back should have [TS]

  done a different thing [TS]

  uh-huh and gotten I'm upset about it not [TS]

  mad and so watching the seahawks I'm I'm [TS]

  invested in them and I like them and I [TS]

  think Richard Sherman is smart and [TS]

  interesting and I think Marshawn Lynch [TS]

  is very interesting i'm gonna be like [TS]

  just got out got a lot of hard ison feel [TS]

  like he's a very interesting person I [TS]

  think he does have quite a bit of heart [TS]

  and the coach pete carroll what a kook [TS]

  he's really enough and I do feel like [TS]

  he's had a big effect on the team and so [TS]

  forth and so on and then I watched that [TS]

  last game the NFC playoff game that [TS]

  everybody's yelling about [TS]

  ok and it was so extraordinary to be [TS]

  behind the entire game and to be [TS]

  demonstrable e the lesser of the two [TS]

  teams on the field the other team uh the [TS]

  team from Wisconsin which is named after [TS]

  a meat packing job butchers basically [TS]

  they should have been called the [TS]

  butcher's we're they were doing a [TS]

  fantastic job of playing the football [TS]

  game and the Seahawks were doing a [TS]

  terrible job except for Marshawn Lynch a [TS]

  person i find very fascinating and then [TS]

  in the 11th hour literally the last two [TS]

  minutes of the game they somehow through [TS]

  a combination of moxie and hubris and [TS]

  sports acumen why can't you do this [TS]

  rather get it [TS]

  Rose rose to victory and shocking the [TS]

  nation and shocking anyone who seemed [TS]

  legitimately like old-school fucking [TS]

  blown away by what happened it was [TS]

  astonishing and to watch it in real time [TS]

  particularly to watch it in a room full [TS]

  of die hard for [TS]

  people who for the two hours prior had [TS]

  been pacing around the room throwing [TS]

  their uh you know there are seven layer [TS]

  dip on the floor and saying this game is [TS]

  over we should just turn it off this you [TS]

  know this team had a good run and good [TS]

  for them and well you know what [TS]

  that's just how the cookie crumbles and [TS]

  you know they were they were actually [TS]

  speaking that way about it to each other [TS]

  and and hilariously I was the one [TS]

  sitting calmly on the couch saying you [TS]

  know the seahawks always rally you like [TS]

  the designated optimist I was like this [TS]

  is what did they do this all the time [TS]

  they they're they're behind at the half [TS]

  and then they they have some miracle and [TS]

  people were like not listening to me [TS]

  because I'm not a sports guy they were [TS]

  they were ignoring me they were talking [TS]

  over the top of me and I was like listen [TS]

  you know marshawn's having a hell of a [TS]

  game and I feel like I feel like there's [TS]

  still a lot of game left to play [TS]

  still two minutes on the clock I mean [TS]

  and they were they were ready to turn [TS]

  the game off right and then watching the [TS]

  team come back and seeing the [TS]

  transformation seeing new life [TS]

  breathes into these people not just in [TS]

  the moment but like they're year looks [TS]

  different there wherever they are right [TS]

  now these friends of mine they are [TS]

  walking around feeling differently than [TS]

  they would have felt have they lost that [TS]

  football game like how are you are you [TS]

  kind of have you sort of arrived now and [TS]

  their eyes today dig a little more [TS]

  credit you think the only as good as [TS]

  your last game but that's pretty good [TS]

  one [TS]

  they don't care at one point at one [TS]

  point that we were we were completely [TS]

  behind we had no points and I said you [TS]

  know what [TS]

  because where there's a big buffet cover [TS]

  with food and I said you know what no [TS]

  one's even one of those blue cupcakes [TS]

  yet and even though I'm ostensibly [TS]

  gluten-free I'm gonna go eat one of [TS]

  those blue cupcakes to rally this team [TS]

  because it's this is the kind of sports [TS]

  thinking that happens right like yeah [TS]

  it's like rally cap [TS]

  yeah exactly you're not wearing the [TS]

  shoes that you were the last game what [TS]

  are you are you trying to jinx us and I [TS]

  was like I'm gonna go eat a blue cupcake [TS]

  and I when I grabbed a blue cupcake i [TS]

  sat down took a bite out of it [TS]

  it was a terrible blue cupcake and [TS]

  immediately the seahawks scored their [TS]

  first touchdown on a completely nutty a [TS]

  like fake outplay and everybody in the [TS]

  room turned at me and stared at me like [TS]

  I had just conjured as a wizard like I [TS]

  had just conjured a fox [TS]

  haha we were suddenly there was a live [TS]

  fox it looking for a nexus and i'm just [TS]

  sitting there with the smug blue [TS]

  frosting smile on like what did I tell [TS]

  you [TS]

  and so for the for the next 45 minutes [TS]

  every time anything good happened on the [TS]

  team [TS]

  I you know half the people in the room [TS]

  with turning-point me and go [TS]

  it's the cupcake and so I can play I can [TS]

  play this I can play the cupcake but in [TS]

  fact we're at the end when the Seahawks [TS]

  won i was given no credit for my sorcery [TS]

  because it was clear that it was that [TS]

  they had appeal to a higher level which [TS]

  is to say Jesus who cared about the game [TS]

  to say there's no cupcaking team but [TS]

  what's happened to me is that that [TS]

  transformation on the field was so [TS]

  extraordinary that I actually two days [TS]

  later was sitting uh you know in my room [TS]

  staring at the wall as I normally do and [TS]

  a voice in my head said I'd kind of like [TS]

  to read something about the seahawks [TS]

  right now and i went and i read an [TS]

  account of the game [TS]

  written by a sports writer and I found [TS]

  it very pleasurable because i saw that [TS]

  game and i wasn't i was involved in it [TS]

  now i'm reading his thoughts on it which [TS]

  comport with mine and then i read a lot [TS]

  of people in the comments and the people [TS]

  who are against the seahawks said bad [TS]

  things and the people who are in favor [TS]

  of the seahawks said haha [TS]

  suck it to the to the angry people and [TS]

  and that comported with my feelings and [TS]

  so now having had that experience where [TS]

  I got a gratification from reading a [TS]

  sports article then I was like what the [TS]

  next day I said [TS]

  well let's try that again and I when I [TS]

  read another sports article i also [TS]

  enjoyed it and then the third day I read [TS]

  a Sports article prognosticating about [TS]

  the future of the upcoming game and that [TS]

  go well it's you know it's harder to [TS]

  know because it hasn't happened yet [TS]

  that's true so this guy's talking about [TS]

  sports events that haven't happened and [TS]

  I had a harder time [TS]

  um you know feeling confident I'm with [TS]

  that one now more than ever now you've [TS]

  your third gateway here now you have to [TS]

  start forming an opinion of your own [TS]

  yeah right now are apart from what you [TS]

  came into it with I have to because I [TS]

  can sit there and read this article and [TS]

  say like well Marshawn Lynch sure does [TS]

  make a lot of plays and that's true [TS]

  Richard Sherman is injured so that [TS]

  affects things but the Patriots a Tom [TS]

  Brady he's a real he makes some [TS]

  completions mhm and now I don't know now [TS]

  I don't know what to think [TS]

  I also now all i can do is say well I'm [TS]

  rooting for them to do anything now [TS]

  they're going to the Super Bowl right [TS]

  we're going to the Super Bowl now are [TS]

  you invited to that [TS]

  am I invited to this code your time out [TS]

  to the superbowl party 171 I would be [TS]

  except that i will be in on a little [TS]

  thing called the joke cruise on now I'm [TS]

  sorry gonna miss that that man that this [TS]

  could be your this is like your [TS]

  quinceaƱera of football you know it's [TS]

  not a shame but here's the thing about [TS]

  about footballs is that i'm pretty sure [TS]

  that on the day of the superbowl we will [TS]

  be able to watch it anywhere in the [TS]

  Western Hemisphere yeah pollen stormy [TS]

  man all the usual suspects all sitting [TS]

  in the sitting in the cabinet spot a man [TS]

  sad TT should watch with me but I do [TS]

  that in a heartbeat [TS]

  yeah it's a man is a hard person to know [TS]

  whether she is like we're whatever she [TS]

  decides that football is our secret [TS]

  passion or she's deeply passionate about [TS]

  it or whether she would blow it off [TS]

  because amy has that has strange passion [TS]

  right like some things that you would [TS]

  owe you know what she's very into boxing [TS]

  know any man is sweet science and heavy [TS]

  man follows boxing religiously and is [TS]

  very passionate about it I i would not [TS]

  have guessed that so and in fact wrote [TS]

  an album about boxing [TS]

  it's called the boxing no it's not it's [TS]

  called something else the heavyweight [TS]

  champion [TS]

  it's called sugar ray leonard I'm just [TS]

  saying what [TS]

  um so and this is the other thing about [TS]

  sports you don't realize like who the [TS]

  secret that there are all kinds of [TS]

  people walking around in hard hats [TS]

  painted in their team colors with two [TS]

  beers attached to the Hat [TS]

  uh-huh straws that you know like that [TS]

  guy's a sports fan [TS]

  ok but then there are all these people [TS]

  like George will or a crazy with the [TS]

  baseball right I crazy about baseball or [TS]

  milk george bundy or Bundy mcgeorge [TS]

  driver that's right sergeant pepper and [TS]

  that turns out they're all into sports [TS]

  and you know well sports right okay this [TS]

  is a thing that you can this is you know [TS]

  and i'm now reading these sports [TS]

  articles which are actually pretty well [TS]

  written [TS]

  they're not just guys are typing in all [TS]

  caps [TS]

  yell yell yell they're talking about [TS]

  sports as though it's in a way [TS]

  Merlin it's like um it's like people [TS]

  that write history about war i know [TS]

  there's that they I've heard this said [TS]

  for many years that well now I'm [TS]

  thinking that Kurt Vonnegut quote where [TS]

  he says all the best writers at Cornell [TS]

  era in the science program but I think [TS]

  it's pretty well understood that some of [TS]

  the most lively American writing of the [TS]

  20th century was writing about sports [TS]

  people i really admire writing an [TS]

  accident it's not just not just honest [TS]

  Thompson but lots of people uh you know [TS]

  actually legitimately writing about [TS]

  sports [TS]

  good writing legitimate writing about [TS]

  sports legitimate writing i'm rarely [TS]

  surprised to find out somebody like [TS]

  sports [TS]

  just because that's to me that's you [TS]

  know it's like are probably says not [TS]

  like the Beatles that's like not like an [TS]

  air you know it's like I'm just so used [TS]

  to everybody being into some kind of a [TS]

  sport in some league at some level right [TS]

  we even if thats mean they're alive a [TS]

  lot [TS]

  and who are really into soccer or like a [TS]

  premier league soccer or even if that's [TS]

  what I just don't understand it [TS]

  I don't know like I could see that but i [TS]

  know a lot of people i admire our into [TS]

  soccer but I've been watching soccer [TS]

  games my entire life and I just feel [TS]

  like it's not this is not a bisque the [TS]

  pace of this game is not one you know I [TS]

  was raised different you know different [TS]

  things like we watched the technology to [TS]

  local sports ball team here was in the [TS]

  the the baseball series this year we [TS]

  watch that it was pretty fun it was [TS]

  pretty fun I mean it was you know some [TS]

  good games and stuff and it's not it's [TS]

  fun you know I got a kid you know I hate [TS]

  basketball and that makes me very [TS]

  unpopular with is it about basketball [TS]

  well it's that it's that it just goes [TS]

  back and forth back and forth back and [TS]

  forth and you just you know both teams [TS]

  score honored points and then the whole [TS]

  game is decided in the last three [TS]

  minutes by like who scored the last two [TS]

  points is gonna quit it quit it is a [TS]

  very frustrating game [TS]

  it feels like basketball game should be [TS]

  three minutes long and they should just [TS]

  you know like first-team 24 points wins [TS]

  can't hear that understand about college [TS]

  is you can make you can make points by [TS]

  throwing the ball through the hoop [TS]

  things you got all these guys running [TS]

  around but then there's two interesting [TS]

  things to know but don't you have to be [TS]

  on a broom [TS]

  that's right and as i understand it now [TS]

  see I've been very I'm only gonna say [TS]

  this to you because i don't actually [TS]

  want to have this argument with somebody [TS]

  in the harry potter community [TS]

  ok but here's the thing as I understand [TS]

  quidditch there's two interesting rules [TS]

  about quidditch to make every other rule [TS]

  pointless [TS]

  ok first rule of Quidditch is that there [TS]

  isn't there are quit yeah you do not [TS]

  talk quits clock okay right now one down [TS]

  and is that you got the role that the [TS]

  harry has Al which is your the things [TS]

  called the seeker and the secret goes [TS]

  after this magical thing called the the [TS]

  Golden Snitch ok and if you get get the [TS]

  Golden Snitch you know how many points [TS]

  to get how many a hundred and fifty a [TS]

  hundred and fifty points to get the [TS]

  golden snake ok that's well that's [TS]

  that's really important rule number one [TS]

  you're ready for important rule number [TS]

  two the game is not over until somebody [TS]

  catches the Golden Snitch [TS]

  alright what are the other ways to score [TS]

  just 10 20 a fucking ball through a hoop [TS]

  like I'm like a MOOC also think about [TS]

  that the games are over to be [TS]

  excited when you get the snitch nothing [TS]

  else matters right so it's just a game [TS]

  of getting the snitch why bother scoring [TS]

  all that the other point here comes the [TS]

  Owls that's the that's the wizard [TS]

  version of email so you're going to get [TS]

  me to get you so into harry potter oh [TS]

  you're gonna get emails from people who [TS]

  are like the whole point of this is the [TS]

  other parts to get the blood but really [TS]

  yes it's a it's like a winner take all [TS]

  situation especially more of a test of [TS]

  character [TS]

  no man i am the worst i'm the worst gets [TS]

  funny you should say this though because [TS]

  we talked about like you no surprise [TS]

  that who likes sports like I was not [TS]

  into comics for 30-some years not [TS]

  against it i made fun of it a little bit [TS]

  but you know haha nerds reading comics [TS]

  and then as you know I got kind of [TS]

  comics couple years ago less SuperDuper [TS]

  into it right now but now I mean you [TS]

  can't swing a dead cat without running [TS]

  into somebody who's a giant comics fan [TS]

  and like so many people that so the [TS]

  island clearly states to contrast this [TS]

  to other people today given that [TS]

  Marvel's going to have you know between [TS]

  Marvel DC I read something an amazing [TS]

  article on Grantland how did we get to [TS]

  talking about marvel vs DC over the next [TS]

  three to four years i believe there's [TS]

  going to be 70 superhero movies coming [TS]

  out so it should be no it's I mean [TS]

  that's too many and literature is [TS]

  surprised to know one that people like [TS]

  comics now and yet when i hear something [TS]

  like oh nothing such person really likes [TS]

  comments more like wow that's kinda cool [TS]

  i wouldn't guess that right but it is [TS]

  kind of the literature of nerdy as [TS]

  another one like it's it's surprising [TS]

  how many people were not just playing [TS]

  D&D but we're super into some aspect of [TS]

  dnd but you know there's not that many [TS]

  shirts for adults about what and I feel [TS]

  like I i saw this i mean i-i can't speak [TS]

  to the comics experience [TS]

  ok I'll bring it back Harry Potter but I [TS]

  i remember and I'm sure you do too but I [TS]

  I it was profoundly true here in Seattle [TS]

  that in 1991-92 and i don't mean to [TS]

  always talk about punk rock [TS]

  but in 1991-92 everybody in seattle was [TS]

  scrambling to reconstruct their personal [TS]

  history in such a way that they had [TS]

  always been punk and that they were they [TS]

  they were the one kid in their high [TS]

  school that got a ton of shit for being [TS]

  talked about curation yeah right i mean [TS]

  but seriously I mean that the kind of [TS]

  manicure history and the and the kind of [TS]

  Stalinist photo editing that might look [TS]

  like that time you were a garbage bag on [TS]

  punk rock day shows that you are punk [TS]

  since you got a working your punk the [TS]

  whole time that's right and and and it [TS]

  involved not it wasn't I don't think all [TS]

  dishonest because there are a lot of [TS]

  people that had had a very you know [TS]

  interesting childhood in the eighties [TS]

  but the selective remembering of events [TS]

  and like you say the one time on [TS]

  Halloween that they put they made a [TS]

  mohawk out of out of shaving cream in [TS]

  their hair that picture became the [TS]

  picture that was that was on their [TS]

  refrigerator and was like yeah man you [TS]

  know back in back in Central Valley [TS]

  California I was one pumpkin my whole [TS]

  school and it was very important to [TS]

  everybody that there that they have [TS]

  their bona fides for their bona fides [TS]

  depending on who you want to ask all in [TS]

  a row because nobody wanted to be [TS]

  because there was one of the things [TS]

  about punk rock is that there was [TS]

  nothing uncool ER than being new to the [TS]

  scene right because that was what up [TS]

  that was what a poser was you didn't [TS]

  want to say like actually I was just a [TS]

  total like normal like preppy nobody and [TS]

  then I decided the punk-rock really [TS]

  meant something to me when it became [TS]

  popular [TS]

  mhm and so it was it was ridiculous and [TS]

  I remember I remember saying at the time [TS]

  like I've been to a lot of places in [TS]

  America I remember exact remember [TS]

  exactly how many punk rockers there were [TS]

  in the united states in 1985 and that it [TS]

  was just to say not that many [TS]

  he's seen probably seen most of the time [TS]

  I saw a lot of them because you know i [TS]

  was i was a young person i was traveling [TS]

  and I those were small scenes [TS]

  and they were you know little readouts [TS]

  against the culture and it is not [TS]

  possible that every single person who in [TS]

  2019 92 claimed to have been punk it's [TS]

  not possible that they all were popping [TS]

  sound like our generations version of [TS]

  claiming to be a good stuff right or [TS]

  yeah right there claiming to have been [TS]

  on a tear at d-day or whatever and I [TS]

  feel the same way about Dungeons and [TS]

  Dragons because i did play Dungeons and [TS]

  Dragons but not very much or very well I [TS]

  was very into D&D culture and the [TS]

  concise right there with you i spent [TS]

  much more time drawing Maps anything oh [TS]

  I drew maps and I made dungeons and I [TS]

  and I SAT and dreamt of like how many [TS]

  platinum pieces i could put in the hold [TS]

  of the ship i was building and i will [TS]

  you indeed encumbrance I'm what does [TS]

  encumbrances where you can only carry so [TS]

  much stuff it like it affects your [TS]

  fighting and movement speed if you're [TS]

  carrying when so many pounds of stuff [TS]

  no i did not do that i did not really [TS]

  follow the rules of Dungeons and Dragons [TS]

  at all right but i but I poured over the [TS]

  Lord the Lord in the books and the dice [TS]

  and the figures in the hex paper it's [TS]

  like it was it's so fun loved it i still [TS]

  have my dice I still you know I have the [TS]

  matter in a special place on my mantle I [TS]

  still think about those days and I you [TS]

  know I was profoundly invested in the [TS]

  idea of that magic was real and that you [TS]

  know and that this interesting a sort of [TS]

  cool osh of like medieval culture but [TS]

  they are in an alternate universe and [TS]

  also its kind of futuristic her that [TS]

  that that that is the you know that is [TS]

  the dilithium crystal boot powers all of [TS]

  nerd culture this like troika of [TS]

  influences fantasy are alternate [TS]

  universe possibilities medieval [TS]

  technology but somehow also inexplicably [TS]

  in the future or using futuristic [TS]

  technology to loved it I loved it ate it [TS]

  with a spoon but I can [TS]

  not honestly say to you that I in any [TS]

  real way played D&D you know because I [TS]

  probably played the actual game of D&D [TS]

  with a dungeon master and a campaign [TS]

  probably played it five times [TS]

  I just wasn't interested in another [TS]

  thirteen-year-old kid governing my [TS]

  journey to middle-earth i-i-i handle all [TS]

  of that in my imaginarium but but when I [TS]

  hear about in needham antium with minor [TS]

  bantam but now I'd like I was just at [TS]

  Woodstock right and how long do you [TS]

  think before dungeons and dragons came [TS]

  up with in the you know in the [TS]

  meet-and-greet like within two 2 r2 [TS]

  middle parsecs 24 seconds and four [TS]

  section seven so I'm standing back there [TS]

  and now we're all talking about Dungeons [TS]

  and Dragons and I can I because of my [TS]

  own personal integrity i cannot jump in [TS]

  and say I play D&D but I feel people do [TS]

  that and I and I look at them and I go [TS]

  did you really play [TS]

  I mean are you a fake geek girl is that [TS]

  what I'm saying oh boy i did you really [TS]

  play dnd or did you just did you redo [TS]

  noon brush up against DNT and you know [TS]

  enjoy some facet of it but i think it [TS]

  now i don't know i disagree because i [TS]

  think it still counts so that because [TS]

  for me I mean I just cuz i play D&D by [TS]

  that by my definition [TS]

  yeah i mean like but I I mean you were [TS]

  we say play D&D I think the thing there [TS]

  is like how much did you connect with [TS]

  the culture and in that case connecting [TS]

  with culture for me was will big-time to [TS]

  the point where like I practically had [TS]

  scoliosis from carrying these five [TS]

  hardcover books around school with me [TS]

  all the time haha for heavy they are [TS]

  heavy and there's a lot to there's a lot [TS]

  to know [TS]

  yeah I mean you know how many hit points [TS]

  a bugbear has [TS]

  40 i don't know i don't either [TS]

  I'll find out did you send me a link you [TS]

  sent you a link to a photo from my high [TS]

  school yearbook 1983 it's a photo from [TS]

  punk-rock day punk rock day [TS]

  Merlin Mann some-some heavily heavily [TS]

  connected popular girls dressed up in [TS]

  garbage bags [TS]

  oh I have this fantastic picture from my [TS]

  sophomore year halloween of the two like [TS]

  cutest preppy girls wearing black [TS]

  lipstick and um yeah like no man i get [TS]

  that laminated garbage bags hurts a home [TS]

  and you can rock me to sleep tonight I [TS]

  would have been looking at it [TS]

  I've been looking at it for 35 years [TS]

  garbage bag mini skirt but it doesn't [TS]

  make so hot it didn't make those girls [TS]

  punk [TS]

  I don't care yeah oh my god garbage bag [TS]

  mini skirt [TS]

  oh whoa oh my goodness [TS]

  so now this is requiring that I sign in [TS]

  to flickr nevermind important it's just [TS]

  personal side ponytails wearing garbage [TS]

  bags you know well now it's gonna be my [TS]

  time on how come on yahoo now look here [TS]

  on your mother's you're not a fan that [TS]

  says sorry there was an error please [TS]

  sign in again and i will add just like [TS]

  with you to anybody who has access to [TS]

  pictures of girls wearing garbage bags [TS]

  in a cute way I think that would make a [TS]

  great tumblr I'm just gonna toss it out [TS]

  there pictures of like you [TS]

  cucumber fresh from minerals not dead [TS]

  girls that's super-important guys have [TS]

  to be cute perky girls you would not [TS]

  normally expect to our garbage bag [TS]

  wearing a garbage bag in a sweet and [TS]

  winsome way [TS]

  Oh that'd be nice I would watch that [TS]

  play some other ones i like a lot for [TS]

  get back to harry potter how this Yahoo [TS]

  what is yahoo why is it still there [TS]

  I want to see the baby all right i want [TS]

  to say but flicker like 15 years ago I [TS]

  don't want to interact with the I don't [TS]

  started to put it away put it away [TS]

  alright alright uh craigslist mirrors [TS]

  it's a taller nothing but photos of [TS]

  mirrors that people have posted on [TS]

  craigslist and they are endlessly [TS]

  fascinating have you ever been fooled by [TS]

  have you ever gone and looked at an ad [TS]

  in craigslist on you don't know the bay [TS]

  and it's it turns out that it's a guy [TS]

  taking a picture of his uh his Don goal [TS]

  in the reflection of my eye I saw the [TS]

  name is photo of the man in the teapot [TS]

  or whatever it was called the famous one [TS]

  from a very very very long one of the [TS]

  first means i remember was a picture of [TS]

  a sort of a stout man taking a picture [TS]

  of a teapot for ebay and you can clearly [TS]

  see his dingus that I remember you [TS]

  saying this is the thing is just like a [TS]

  sexy thing it isn't thing i have i've [TS]

  actually looked at an ad for a thing and [TS]

  then realized I felt weird i'll come on [TS]

  you think happens like it happens you'll [TS]

  see it saw then saw up in the reflection [TS]

  of a hubcap or something a guy in a in a [TS]

  proposing Jack an appeal i can have been [TS]

  opposing a banana hammock that would [TS]

  that would put me off my beer whoo what [TS]

  they've been out there again you just [TS]

  nailed another one which is it's very [TS]

  difficult to take pictures of some [TS]

  things without having yourself in it and [TS]

  I know that no matter how hard I try [TS]

  what people are gonna notice most is [TS]

  going to examine me in the picture of [TS]

  the thing that I would you know what I [TS]

  mean yeah like I get in realizing that i [TS]

  posted the other night when I posted a [TS]

  picture of the bell getting ready to do [TS]

  our show that my course my reflection is [TS]

  in it and haha o sea ice closed [TS]

  you know I was BSB shirted I where I [TS]

  work clothes all the time so it's not a [TS]

  problem i do I wonder about this because [TS]

  I enjoyed this enjoy selfies but I also [TS]

  and and I think that I am vain but i [TS]

  also have no way I'm the Hanuman I think [TS]

  he just broke my programming [TS]

  I try and unpacked the statement I think [TS]

  I'm vain i think i may my real involved [TS]

  three sets up football i am but about up [TS]

  but i also have a very clear-eyed [TS]

  picture in of like what I actually look [TS]

  like and what we're that where that [TS]

  falls you know like I don't think that I [TS]

  am beautiful [TS]

  I don't know i'm not done you know just [TS]

  selfies like it just before they have [TS]

  named it was just always a picture of a [TS]

  girl taking a picture of herself in the [TS]

  bathroom mirror and like I would you [TS]

  just became like a thing and like the [TS]

  cute girl taking a picture yourself in [TS]

  the bathroom mirror [TS]

  the only thing that made me like those [TS]

  photos much more than today's modern [TS]

  selfies are that yes they were less sort [TS]

  of contrived but also they look at the [TS]

  lens the thing I can't say that thing [TS]

  that drives me nuts i stand somebody's [TS]

  gonna have to explain this to me someday [TS]

  I don't understand why all selfies [TS]

  including celebrity selfies are prayin [TS]

  primarily of somebody chimp and thrown [TS]

  camera while they take a picture [TS]

  what does that mean champion I like when [TS]

  you're looking at the preview of the of [TS]

  the thing when you're looks like instead [TS]

  of taking a picture of yourself looking [TS]

  into the lens [TS]

  oh you're looking at yourself looking at [TS]

  yourself looking at your camera taking a [TS]

  picture of you i can't I don't [TS]

  understand that either but i think the [TS]

  doctor today I think that's maybe that's [TS]

  part of the lure is that they're looking [TS]

  at themselves and can see now we're back [TS]

  to rowland park now whatchu think we're [TS]

  down to sure at this point happy looking [TS]

  at a picture of yourself in a mirror [TS]

  looking at a picture of yourself on your [TS]

  own and you know set up [TS]

  oh yes I think I i think i agree with [TS]

  you i find that hotter summers in the [TS]

  sense in the sense that pearl really [TS]

  looking at me looking at me look at me [TS]

  for the for a long time [TS]

  the only thing i found a erotic about [TS]

  porn movies was that moment in every [TS]

  porn movie where the actress can't help [TS]

  but look at the camera was like yeah [TS]

  there's this there's there's always [TS]

  there's always a moment where she is [TS]

  either saying like are you getting this [TS]

  or just like she just can't she just [TS]

  breaks the fourth wall and that was [TS]

  always the moment that made the kind of [TS]

  that that brought the whole because the [TS]

  fantasy of like I'm just the guy [TS]

  delivering pizzas and whoa [TS]

  yes the load ladies like it could never [TS]

  I was never invested in any of those [TS]

  fancy i'm talking attempted to our young [TS]

  listeners who do not understand what i [TS]

  am talking about [TS]

  talking about an actual actual for a [TS]

  time before contemporary porn when it [TS]

  was actual feature-length movies that [TS]

  purported to have a plot where people [TS]

  had unlikely sex will get a lot of [TS]

  business negotiations gone wrong [TS]

  yeah misunderstandings about money [TS]

  people come in and then you know like [TS]

  the someone comes in to take dictation [TS]

  education you got problems with Dinah [TS]

  Kabul you might want to get the cable [TS]

  fixed [TS]

  yeah the guys sitting at a bar and the [TS]

  bartender and he are there alone and [TS]

  things get a little out of hands a lot [TS]

  of a lot of it seems to involve women [TS]

  needing a favor [TS]

  oh right right it all kind of work it [TS]

  out because they like intercourse [TS]

  strangers and I feel like there was that [TS]

  moment in the eighties when all of a [TS]

  sudden it was not the lady going to the [TS]

  boy doctor but it was the boy going to [TS]

  the lady doctor will switcheroo little [TS]

  feminist like like inversion of your [TS]

  expectations [TS]

  yes but all of those plots were not very [TS]

  interesting and and and what was [TS]

  interesting where those moments where [TS]

  the boom mike came into the shot or or [TS]

  one of the one of the people just for a [TS]

  second glance to right into the camera [TS]

  and it was like right this is being made [TS]

  this movie is being made in a motel room [TS]

  in you know like probably four blocks [TS]

  from where the tonight show is being [TS]

  filmed and I uh and dad is interesting [TS]

  to me or you know that was interesting [TS]

  to my young libido in a way my young [TS]

  sentence is not just a little on POV [TS]

  cumshot it does all of you the you the [TS]

  reader a little bit of insight right she [TS]

  just kind of looked she she didn't she [TS]

  done it wasn't aware of looking at me [TS]

  she was almost looking at her own [TS]

  reflection in the lens of the of 35 [TS]

  millimeter film camera that is recording [TS]

  this for posterity but i do feel like [TS]

  that you're right that looking into the [TS]

  phone pointing it into the mirror that [TS]

  there's something erotic being [TS]

  communicated their yeah [TS]

  yeah 70 semiotic semi semi on a titanium [TS]

  now how does that relate back to [TS]

  Quidditch that's not important [TS]

  i mean i-i got into an argument with [TS]

  somebody on the internet the other day [TS]

  where she said something to the effect [TS]

  of she was trying to make common cause [TS]

  with me and said something like blah [TS]

  blah blah blah blah something from Harry [TS]

  Potter universe am i right [TS]

  mm and I was like eating get the [TS]

  reference i didn't get the reference and [TS]

  I didn't get why she thought I would and [TS]

  I was like I don't you know Harry Potter [TS]

  doesn't I'm not even doing see that i'm [TS]

  such a crappy nerd [TS]

  I mean I have friends that are so much [TS]

  more successful nerds good nerd now i'm [TS]

  not i do it wrong [TS]

  I mean I don't do it I don't do the [TS]

  nerdy stuff in the right nerdy way I'm [TS]

  late to a lot of it and i've done as a [TS]

  as an observer of the harry potter [TS]

  community I i I'm living the unthinkable [TS]

  court which is what you think about Liz [TS]

  I have not read the words in a hole [TS]

  harry potter book ever [TS]

  what's really good I have I love the [TS]

  movies and i love the audio books but I [TS]

  did not read any of the books when they [TS]

  were out when i got into it because my [TS]

  daughter and I said my daughter hey [TS]

  let's try this harry potter thing she [TS]

  was really scared at first came back a [TS]

  few months later she ate it with a spoon [TS]

  and like this past summer we watched [TS]

  harry potter movie every day so I didn't [TS]

  all whatever seven or eight of them [TS]

  multiple I've seen the third one [TS]

  many many times I've seen this the final [TS]

  one many many times since I've seen all [TS]

  of them except a couple at least four [TS]

  times probably seen no I have never seen [TS]

  a harry potter movie delightful but I [TS]

  did read all the books one time [TS]

  what because I was locked in the brig of [TS]

  a transatlantic ship and that was all [TS]

  that was there big this the captain had [TS]

  a secret work you are doing the captain [TS]

  a pro I i would say pretty inflexible a [TS]

  idea of what constituted a mutiny and so [TS]

  I ended up in the brig and there were [TS]

  Harry Potter books in there and I was [TS]

  like well I'm here for my head [TS]

  for the first time in months I'm on the [TS]

  side of the listener right now [TS]

  what the fuck you talking about up i [TS]

  love the idea of you being in a brig [TS]

  three books about wizard haha i was it I [TS]

  was it effectively in a break [TS]

  I was just you know you haven't we [TS]

  haven't a timeout I was having a timeout [TS]

  and there was nothing to do except for [TS]

  that inexplicably all the Harry Potter [TS]

  books were in this place [TS]

  they're really long there were well the [TS]

  other long but they are quick read how [TS]

  they did that there i think they're very [TS]

  well I mean I've read a lot of the first [TS]

  one and we listened to the audiobook [TS]

  usually from number 20 [TS]

  pretty much every day we pick a section [TS]

  you know chapter six killed a ride [TS]

  Lockhart after seven my blogs and yes [TS]

  but we-we've I've heard I've heard them [TS]

  and and I've read some of the books and [TS]

  they are a real page-turner I get why [TS]

  they were a phenomena you have to mark [TS]

  the things that what i will say is that [TS]

  the books are I think a good deal darker [TS]

  than the movies by and large I you know [TS]

  but I but there's still like kids books [TS]

  or but the kids should have a dark stuff [TS]

  it's like my Frank I english said i was [TS]

  i was like talking about how I felt [TS]

  really bad that I've been as far as i [TS]

  know i've been pretty good about not [TS]

  horribly scoring my kid with media she [TS]

  seen a lot of shit you shouldn't see [TS]

  she's seen tons of pg-13 movies all [TS]

  kinds definitely for things that I've [TS]

  ever really scared her [TS]

  yeah and one of them for a while was the [TS]

  Daleks in Doctor Who my friend guys from [TS]

  Canada is like that there is a rich [TS]

  tradition like every little kid every [TS]

  adult in England is still scared of [TS]

  dollars because they were scared them [TS]

  when they're little [TS]

  don't feel bad alright think about the [TS]

  brothers grimm think about what we mean [TS]

  literally tore something we've always [TS]

  given kids the grossest and scariest [TS]

  stories but you know I think about it [TS]

  having a child the first time she first [TS]

  time my daughter asked me about death [TS]

  was not very long after she started [TS]

  talking I mean she said she's an early [TS]

  and lively talker right yeah [TS]

  early and lively talker but but after [TS]

  she started properly talking and asking [TS]

  questions [TS]

  it was very early on like you know where [TS]

  do you go when you die what is death [TS]

  why what are these you know she she she [TS]

  she's very interested in graveyards and [TS]

  when you think about it driving around [TS]

  it's like well yeah it's very [TS]

  interesting what the fuck is that all [TS]

  you have to do is look out the window [TS]

  and say like well this area of town is [TS]

  very different from everywhere else or [TS]

  just sex is the famous one of like you [TS]

  wonder what it's like and speculate [TS]

  about all the different levels of how [TS]

  whatever that thing is works but I think [TS]

  death the death and burial process can't [TS]

  be too far behind [TS]

  there's a lot of levels to go on [TS]

  equipment so there's a body in the [TS]

  ground how did the body get in the [TS]

  ground like it's just sitting there will [TS]

  note in a box a box yes a really [TS]

  expensive box by the grass on hang on [TS]

  wait a minute [TS]

  well no you get to see him right before [TS]

  they die they have this little love to [TS]

  put in a box with Dutch doors and you [TS]

  get to look at the morning lots of [TS]

  makeup and then they put them in the [TS]

  ground right shoulder levels or you run [TS]

  the box into the fireplace and then burn [TS]

  them up and turns them into ash in there [TS]

  any other this bucket here this one here [TS]

  this one on the mantle here is this girl [TS]

  is I mean at least in my experience a my [TS]

  daughter doesn't have any she is not [TS]

  curious about any aspect of sex that all [TS]

  seems to make perfect sense [TS]

  daddy put a baby inside a mommy next but [TS]

  the question of like where is your daddy [TS]

  well my daddy is dead how did your daddy [TS]

  get dead [TS]

  well everybody gets dead eventually [TS]

  well everybody gets dead eventually [TS]

  ok.how and and that is like I mean what [TS]

  do we have to talk about really as human [TS]

  beings [TS]

  other than that it's still fascinating [TS]

  absolutely i still wonder where my daddy [TS]

  goes when he's it gets dead and how you [TS]

  get dead and end with every passing day [TS]

  I am more and more interested and also [TS]

  less and less interested in how you get [TS]

  dead and so she and and the idea that [TS]

  because I think my instinct when she [TS]

  first asked like like I did the [TS]

  Terminator scroll on my heads up display [TS]

  like that answer think of an answer what [TS]

  are you going to say what you say and [TS]

  then it was immediately clear to me like [TS]

  what do you mean what do you say there's [TS]

  no you're not faking her out [TS]

  you're not trying to camouflage [TS]

  something from her because you know [TS]

  about as much about it as she does [TS]

  that's right where did you go when you [TS]

  get dead you look what I mean like what [TS]

  real consolation can you give that isn't [TS]

  a blatant line [TS]

  yeah right and what is and why would why [TS]

  would I even introduced the idea that [TS]

  there was some consolation for it like I [TS]

  mean I mean not to be obvious but don't [TS]

  you don't want her to become overly [TS]

  morose or scared right but i mean i [TS]

  don't i don't know i think the word the [TS]

  way that you get overly morose scared is [TS]

  that you that you asked a simple [TS]

  question which is how to where you go [TS]

  when you get dead and then you watch [TS]

  everybody around you freaked out and [TS]

  something I work so hard at that and I I [TS]

  get it right maybe ten percent of the [TS]

  time is trying to like go wait a minute [TS]

  stop don't editorialize dont preach and [TS]

  don't feel like you have to try and [TS]

  teach a lesson you can just say what it [TS]

  is that smell is pot and our neighbors [TS]

  are smoking it [TS]

  yeah and that's what that is it's it's [TS]

  just like it's like alcohol you know [TS]

  it's a drug and when you smell that [TS]

  that's what that is that spot any other [TS]

  questions around probably 25 years ago I [TS]

  if I were the same age you know and so [TS]

  forth [TS]

  I would've done it really differently I [TS]

  would have a lot more like admonishments [TS]

  and like you know really open up by [TS]

  saying oh well they're breaking the law [TS]

  or they're hurting their bodies or [TS]

  something like that yeah we had one the [TS]

  other day she ran away in a store and it [TS]

  was a situation where she was standing [TS]

  right next to me and i was looking at a [TS]

  thing on a shelf [TS]

  and then I looked down and she was gone [TS]

  oh god it was like whoa this is the [TS]

  first time this has happened and I when [TS]

  I found her mom was also in the store [TS]

  and that she hadn't gone to her mom she [TS]

  was completely AWOL officially out of [TS]

  sight right so I run to the front first [TS]

  thing that happens man is nothing like [TS]

  it [TS]

  yeah I was no good I ran to the front [TS]

  door of the store and stood facing into [TS]

  the store from the front door [TS]

  basically in like Robocop mode full-on [TS]

  code Adam mood [TS]

  yeah and a her mom you know made the [TS]

  rounds and found her in the shoe [TS]

  department wearing a pair of giant furry [TS]

  pink fuzzy slippers with another with [TS]

  like three more pairs of shoes in her [TS]

  arms [TS]

  not-not-not trying to buy them or bring [TS]

  them to show it come to us but just like [TS]

  it just basically having like a shoe [TS]

  just the earliest stages of like a shoe [TS]

  fetish and in talking to her about it I [TS]

  was like you can't go you can't do that [TS]

  you can never leave daddy without saying [TS]

  where you're going you can't just run [TS]

  away and I remember being given the same [TS]

  talk in the seventies and then and at [TS]

  the time people struggling to explain [TS]

  why because they're bad men and there [TS]

  are you know and and then the concept of [TS]

  bad men got introduced into my head and [TS]

  I was like well what happens with bad [TS]

  men [TS]

  I was like well Batman sometimes [TS]

  sometimes drive Volkswagens with a [TS]

  missing passenger seat and ask you for [TS]

  help putting their canoe on the roof [TS]

  right and then they end up having sex [TS]

  with your dead body in the forest for [TS]

  two weeks I was like okay that was not [TS]

  what I needed to hear when I was seven [TS]

  years old and as i was looking at my [TS]

  daughter I was like you know who needs [TS]

  to know why not you [TS]

  the answer is don't ever do it that's [TS]

  the end you don't be there there is no I [TS]

  understand why you're asking why and the [TS]

  answer is you don't need to know right [TS]

  now all you need to know is don't ever [TS]

  do that again and you know it's amazing [TS]

  how how much they accept that because [TS]

  that is ax [TS]

  only true right that isn't just that's [TS]

  not some planned parent jiu-jitsu and [TS]

  playing it actually is true you do not [TS]

  need to know why you just need to not do [TS]

  that and there are so many things that [TS]

  fall into that category my instinct as [TS]

  an over explainer is like why [TS]

  well let me explain when humans first [TS]

  came for off the Savannah they tamed [TS]

  dogs to help them hunt [TS]

  it's just like the hell yeah I'm with [TS]

  you it's me it's a it's a very revealing [TS]

  exercise it's like any kind of you know [TS]

  sort of exercise like that where you [TS]

  have to do something within constraints [TS]

  you know like for example remember being [TS]

  a little kid and when you are taught how [TS]

  when you define a word you can't use the [TS]

  word and the definition and that [TS]

  suddenly seems impossible you know when [TS]

  you first try to do that but right we're [TS]

  like well how could I was great because [TS]

  i read if you use the word in it that [TS]

  it's not really a definition it's like [TS]

  wow you just blew my mind and for me [TS]

  that's like at all [TS]

  every level you're talking about and [TS]

  probably even more for me where it's [TS]

  like how do I keep how I just factually [TS]

  say what this is to answer the question [TS]

  without having to like / engineer why [TS]

  it's the way it is how it's the way it [TS]

  is or very importantly hear what culture [TS]

  you should what kind of like feeling you [TS]

  should have about it I tried really hard [TS]

  to explain things without overly putting [TS]

  my opinion on it which is something left [TS]

  to my own devices i'll have a clever [TS]

  remark that might stick with her forever [TS]

  about how this is a dumb thing that you [TS]

  don't need to ever think about it like [TS]

  now I don't want to do that like I want [TS]

  to just describe it as a thing and then [TS]

  try to keep all that stuff and she has [TS]

  questions to ask [TS]

  yeah and I think it's really hard the [TS]

  the hardest thing for any of us is to [TS]

  say the the really big questions who [TS]

  were none of us have any answers for and [TS]

  all answers are pretend you know that we [TS]

  don't know anything about why right [TS]

  there is no answer and the and the [TS]

  biggest question is why do we ask why it [TS]

  is is that it's so clear that there is [TS]

  an answer and yet we crave an answer to [TS]

  their question and that is a fascinating [TS]

  thing and that says everything there is [TS]

  to say about humans but to say like I [TS]

  do not know why none of us know why [TS]

  every single institution you see on the [TS]

  face of the earth is in some small [TS]

  portion built to try and give a [TS]

  convincing answer as to why and they are [TS]

  all piss up a rope so there are so many [TS]

  industries businesses philosophy schools [TS]

  that like there's an entire like giant [TS]

  part of our actual and in intellectual [TS]

  economy that is wound up in trying to [TS]

  find some satisfactory answer 28 and [TS]

  essentially unanswerable question right [TS]

  and i think what most of us do is we put [TS]

  together us a long string of causal wise [TS]

  right this is why that and this is why [TS]

  that and this is why that it's the you [TS]

  know it's a version of the the [TS]

  mechanistic view of the universe all [TS]

  looking for the uncaused cause all [TS]

  looking for the thing that is at the end [TS]

  of this chain of demonstrable wise and [TS]

  it's just it's just turtles all the way [TS]

  down right it's just but you can stack [TS]

  as many wise that you can answer in a [TS]

  row as you want but it ultimately [TS]

  arrives at there's no why [TS]

  and I mean that we had a lot of [TS]

  fascinating talks on our honor trip to [TS]

  Africa because David Rees kept bringing [TS]

  up the question of a manned flight to [TS]

  Mars and he asked everybody that we met [TS]

  if you were given a chance to be on a [TS]

  one-way trip to Mars like a settlers [TS]

  voyage to Mars would you take it [TS]

  and I thought it was an interesting [TS]

  question and i was astonished at the [TS]

  number of people and I'm it shouldn't [TS]

  have been astonishing because we were [TS]

  talking to people in the military but [TS]

  the number of people that just instantly [TS]

  said absolutely [TS]

  Wow absolutely I would go on a one-way [TS]

  manned mission to Mars and and David [TS]

  just like day after day was just blown [TS]

  away until he until he had to stop being [TS]

  blown away because it was happening so [TS]

  often among enlisted man among officers [TS]

  men and women would you go on an [TS]

  unmanned are on a on a one-way trip to [TS]

  Mars [TS]

  yes i would really be the big game for [TS]

  somebody in the military and I get the [TS]

  big leagues [TS]

  ya know for sure but all but ultimately [TS]

  it was a personal question and it was [TS]

  down to the fact that most of the most [TS]

  of the people that we met shared in some [TS]

  way [TS]

  a utopian spirit of humanity and that [TS]

  exploration and and expansion and [TS]

  colonization of space seemed to all of [TS]

  them to be as close to a why as they [TS]

  could come up with right there is no in [TS]

  in absence of the answer an absence of [TS]

  an answer to the question why all you [TS]

  can do is explore and then go out and [TS]

  David was like but that makes no sense [TS]

  like why why why would you go out and do [TS]

  that like that's a all this money and [TS]

  resources to go do what nothing like we [TS]

  could be using that that money in to [TS]

  make a garden planet and everybody just [TS]

  started and blankly myself included [TS]

  because i am a person that believes in [TS]

  spaceflight and believes in exploration [TS]

  and see and feel like we will not in our [TS]

  lifetimes have an answer to any of this [TS]

  we will not know for 10,000 years but [TS]

  but I can't think of another I can't [TS]

  think of a better purpose i even if you [TS]

  don't like increasing numbers of in [TS]

  testing people seem to say that we're [TS]

  gonna have to look beyond our planet you [TS]

  know potentially for survival or four [TS]

  thriving but you know even if you don't [TS]

  necessarily believe that yet it's just [TS]

  it's just still that basic idea that [TS]

  like this is what we do like in some [TS]

  ways there's anything back to this hard [TS]

  impossible question why are we here [TS]

  well we're here to find out something we [TS]

  don't know yet yeah and coated it's [TS]

  encoded in US and and if they're if [TS]

  there's any proof of anything the fact [TS]

  that we keep asking why about everything [TS]

  is like is why we're here to keep asking [TS]

  why and to go out and ask why and [TS]

  further and further places and in larger [TS]

  and larger scales at least it seems to [TS]

  me and so when you know what I'm talking [TS]

  to my kid and she's like well why I'm [TS]

  like yes exactly and and I you know and [TS]

  what i'll do what i can do is the more [TS]

  that you're capable of understanding i [TS]

  can break down that the 55 prevailing [TS]

  theories and give you that to chew on [TS]

  because I because my whole life and the [TS]

  and the great pleasure I get out of life [TS]

  is in asking why and trying to answer [TS]

  why and sitting up at night and you know [TS]

  like and chewing on ideas and going like [TS]

  but-but-but mm ah you know and what is [TS]

  that gave me it doesn't gain me anything [TS]

  but it's but it's irreversible in me and [TS]

  I hope it is in her i wish it I wish [TS]

  that upon her because it's been the [TS]

  great joy of my life to to to look at [TS]

  everything and asked why and and not ask [TS]

  why with any expectation of an answer [TS]

  but just the thrill of the next question [TS]

  of the next question and now and the [TS]

  manned mission to Mars that's a that's [TS]

  interesting that's an interesting [TS]

  distinction I would want to make too [TS]

  fine distinction but like it seems like [TS]

  there are people who are asking [TS]

  questions because they want to know the [TS]

  answer [TS]

  some people are no an answer and some [TS]

  people just want to know what the next [TS]

  interesting question is what the next [TS]

  question is that ultimately i think it's [TS]

  a question of scale like as you asked [TS]

  questions you [TS]

  invariably go either up or down in scale [TS]

  he's following a threat of questions are [TS]

  like well now i need to know more detail [TS]

  well now i need to get to the you know [TS]

  get to the underlying question or you're [TS]

  like now I have the context now I'm [TS]

  scaling up and I'm asking how this how [TS]

  that that answer that seems pretty [TS]

  satisfactory how that works across so a [TS]

  big scale and this was the thing that [TS]

  happened with Einstein and it happened [TS]

  with physics in the 20th century it's [TS]

  like okay this is a great theory and it [TS]

  works great here now how does it apply [TS]

  to gravitation and if it doesn't apply [TS]

  to gravitation then it isn't a complete [TS]

  theory of physics and that you know [TS]

  imagine being Einstein and being like oh [TS]

  fuck you know like it works but it isn't [TS]

  the it isn't the big why it'sit's you [TS]

  know if you had to boil down of all the [TS]

  many reasons why it's kind of sad that [TS]

  we're not doing the space program one of [TS]

  them is that it clearly seems to show [TS]

  that you know when we have our reasons [TS]

  and expensive it doesn't have a clear [TS]

  goal in mind [TS]

  you know it velcros great but like we [TS]

  don't know what the next thing is gonna [TS]

  be time like you'll be so nice to find a [TS]

  slush fund just for saying like well [TS]

  this is just a thing we need to do it's [TS]

  like I said my daughter you know we [TS]

  don't we don't have a lot of money will [TS]

  always try and find money for books and [TS]

  art supplies like those are two things [TS]

  where we'll try and find something to [TS]

  always get meeting at books and art [TS]

  supplies because those you can do [TS]

  anything with those you know and with [TS]

  the space program it's like who knows [TS]

  what we're missing out on you know and [TS]

  it doesn't even need to be like you know [TS]

  Tang or or velcro but like we don't even [TS]

  we have no way to even know we have [TS]

  glimpses of what we are as we learn more [TS]

  we can see a little bit of what we might [TS]

  be missing out on but like it's just [TS]

  it's a bummer to know that in our [TS]

  lifetime we're probably not going to see [TS]

  much progress on that [TS]

  well it is a bummer accept that our [TS]

  friend Elon Musk is if there's anything [TS]

  that it excites me [TS]

  a2c privatized any big state operation [TS]

  excited to see privatized it is space [TS]

  exploration because [TS]

  like every other every other thing that [TS]

  used to be the the purview of like a [TS]

  state structure like a government large [TS]

  government structure that has been [TS]

  privatized it's invariably a resource [TS]

  extraction or an administration issue [TS]

  right that we decided that we're going [TS]

  to privatize and let the free market [TS]

  handle and invariably it just leads to [TS]

  what leads to the world we're living in [TS]

  now we're fifty percent of the the the [TS]

  the wealth of the world is owned by one [TS]

  percent of the people but something like [TS]

  space travel where these guys are [TS]

  privatizing it on their own out of first [TS]

  of all just the fact that they're geeks [TS]

  and have a boner for space for her and [TS]

  like if Ilan must goes up with his his [TS]

  dumb bubble plane and discovers that [TS]

  there are asteroids made out of solid [TS]

  gold [TS]

  god bless him but I don't think that's [TS]

  why he's doing it and I think that maybe [TS]

  we will see tremendous progress in a [TS]

  space exploration just because a peak [TS]

  was Jeff Bezos is sitting there going [TS]

  I'm a bankrupt person and i have no [TS]

  there is no reason for me i am i am like [TS]

  snail slime we don't like that gap [TS]

  compiling worth billions of dollars and [TS]

  i'm a nerd [TS]

  what should i do build rockets if it's [TS]

  the ultimate penis bigger than a [TS]

  spaceship [TS]

  I'm sorry bigger than a skyscraper you [TS]

  can build a flying penis you can build a [TS]

  boner to the Stars a boner to the stars [TS]

  you can literally fuck the sky if you [TS]

  have enough billions of dollars and [TS]

  that's what these guys want they are [TS]

  they I mean that's what skyscrapers are [TS]

  right there like rich guys trying to [TS]

  fuck the sky but you can you can build [TS]

  up a penis that flies and that i'm going [TS]

  to talk about answering the question why [TS]

  the answer is flying penis [TS]

  it's right there and that's good [TS]