Roderick on the Line

Ep. 140: "Nadir for Now"

 

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  hello hi John hi Merlin as it going [TS]

  Oh super super good tired [TS]

  yeah I'm sorry I'm a little late it's [TS]

  it's the tired season [TS]

  yeah it is it is so you had a well we [TS]

  shouldn't say what you had trouble [TS]

  getting your kid somewhere today I you [TS]

  know just normal stuff just normal human [TS]

  adulthood stuff takes longer and longer [TS]

  all the time [TS]

  yeah you wake up in the morning and [TS]

  you're like here it is [TS]

  Here I am This Is It this is it the [TS]

  nadir really well yeah because you know [TS]

  when you're young you're like arts one [TS]

  of these days it's all gonna make sense [TS]

  it's all gonna come together [TS]

  yeah and then when you're old you're [TS]

  like I don't remember what that over its [TS]

  the nadir for now I feel I feel amazing [TS]

  i'm on medication i remember anything [TS]

  before two days but you go but now right [TS]

  here it's like oh this is it man right [TS]

  idea and it I am Here I am in my forties [TS]

  just right in the middle of it and it's [TS]

  not gonna there's you know I'm not gonna [TS]

  get any different [TS]

  no I don't know I've been having fun [TS]

  lately i'm enjoying kid stuff a lot [TS]

  lately [TS]

  mhm I mean you know it's a the work not [TS]

  working is it a lot of its a lot of [TS]

  grind but you don't want to grind [TS]

  yeah Grist crist starting to think that [TS]

  the basis for most midlife male mid life [TS]

  crises na might come out of a lack of [TS]

  gratitude or perceived lack of gratitude [TS]

  from other people for all the hard work [TS]

  that we do [TS]

  yeah I mean it's not like I actually [TS]

  deserve that but when i noticed myself [TS]

  in my lower moments I'm like would do to [TS]

  all these things you know you can see [TS]

  the core [TS]

  but you know I might never know I had a [TS]

  lot of it has to do with getting sick [TS]

  all the time may still sick or Yuri SiC [TS]

  em again it I got a sick on top of a [TS]

  sick i gotta sell getting sick and I got [TS]

  better and then it was like a it was [TS]

  like a it was like some kind of adjunct [TS]

  to sick it was the same sickness but [TS]

  it-it recalibrated itself and was like [TS]

  you know what I want a second shot at [TS]

  this and so a weekend i just got super [TS]

  sick the same exact way that that's not [TS]

  reasonable John that was that she was [TS]

  completely unacceptable what the wood [TS]

  it's like double jeopardy or something [TS]

  exactly like twice for the same illness [TS]

  yeah that's right now I met and so I [TS]

  feel a little bit let me talk about [TS]

  gratitude [TS]

  yeah yeah I really think that the thing [TS]

  i really ride you you know a lot of [TS]

  gratitude for any God counts i'm blessed [TS]

  you know what I mean any God who would [TS]

  make the Holocaust sick twice in a row [TS]

  oh i just read that Hitler book again [TS]

  which one is that the meaning of Hitler [TS]

  00 i heard that fella on the public [TS]

  radio and the thing it turns out it's [TS]

  not actually about the meaning of Hitler [TS]

  it's about people trying to find meaning [TS]

  and Hitler as a widely misunderstood [TS]

  book and Hitler's a baby on the cover [TS]

  right at the book [TS]

  oh no different book how even Hitler was [TS]

  his x is it it was sent to me by a [TS]

  German listener of our program and look [TS]

  this up and it is a it's a book that was [TS]

  originally published in German by a [TS]

  German man it's a small book a thin book [TS]

  but it is and it was a huge bestseller [TS]

  when it came out in 1979 in Germany but [TS]

  it is just so full of insight written in [TS]

  a very chatty casual style so full of [TS]

  inside and you you read it in the first [TS]

  you know the first half of the book is [TS]

  you just like oh my god this book is [TS]

  explaining so much about the psychology [TS]

  of Germany at the time and Hitler and [TS]

  his appeal and you know you just you [TS]

  just like inside inside inside and then [TS]

  the second half of the book it's just [TS]

  like oh my god this is so much worse [TS]

  than I thought [TS]

  even so much after a lifetime of [TS]

  studying this guy this little thin book [TS]

  is really instructing me on how much [TS]

  worse it is than I ever imagined really [TS]

  gonna cover my ass for a minute [TS]

  the book i was thinking of the time we [TS]

  mentioned on the public radio is called [TS]

  explaining Hitler explaining Hitler i [TS]

  colon the search for the origins of his [TS]

  evil and this is a 1998 book by [TS]

  journalists wrong rosenbaum it's got a [TS]

  picture of Hitler's a baby on the cover [TS]

  and book is kind of i'm giving believe [TS]

  widely misunderstood because he's not [TS]

  trying to actually explain Hitler he's [TS]

  trying to understand the people who try [TS]

  to explain this might be a nice young [TS]

  complainers yeah if you've wrapped [TS]

  around to reading that one twice you [TS]

  might want to move back to the states [TS]

  and have a look at explaining Hitler [TS]

  explaining Hitler yeah i i'm not sure i [TS]

  want to have to have the explainers of [TS]

  excessive Hitler explained to me but [TS]

  maybe you know maybe hey Hitler [TS]

  explaining and explaining the book i'm [TS]

  not you don't like it John you sound [TS]

  terrible but you know what that's the [TS]

  northwest I can have I'm on the mend the [TS]

  book something that was by sebastian [TS]

  Hafner that's a great and yes Sebastian [TS]

  after and he's just he's so smart [TS]

  anyway so that so I've been you know [TS]

  think about Hitler and then and then and [TS]

  then bombed like really bummed like that [TS]

  the tail end of this book is I mean not [TS]

  that I want to look about Hitler you're [TS]

  in for the second I wouldn't believe [TS]

  more you know what I mean look at us [TS]

  like you would think you would think if [TS]

  i walk out of the house with the spring [TS]

  in my step [TS]

  having experienced nearly you step you [TS]

  know really jumped you losing your step [TS]

  jump into this book a second time but [TS]

  it's really it's the type of book I [TS]

  don't usually read book multiple times [TS]

  but this is one of those books you could [TS]

  read every few years and a lot of books [TS]

  and somehow you came back to that one [TS]

  like I say like I say it's a it stands [TS]

  just added and just as a as a book [TS]

  because because how many books are there [TS]

  and I'm and maybe with one of the [TS]

  appeals of it is that i would like to [TS]

  write books about things that everybody [TS]

  thinks they already know everything [TS]

  about you want to read it turns out book [TS]

  right because it turns out as it turns [TS]

  out dot you thought that toilet water in [TS]

  the in the southern hemisphere went down [TS]

  counterclockwise my parents out turns [TS]

  out [TS]

  yeah and and so this is one of those [TS]

  books where it's like everybody thinks [TS]

  they already know about everything there [TS]

  is to know about this story and and it's [TS]

  not really he doesn't really frame it [TS]

  and it turns out way he's just like well [TS]

  you know let me let me let me show let [TS]

  me show you ever let me show you how we [TS]

  got there let me show you why this [TS]

  mattered [TS]

  why this thing which we all just sort of [TS]

  gloss over Hitler's evil for instance [TS]

  you know we just sort of say that [TS]

  Hitler's evil and matt and move on as [TS]

  though we all agree but let's talk about [TS]

  what that means right and i love that [TS]

  stuff you know i would like to i would [TS]

  like to have that that kind of a thought [TS]

  proficiency is all but that's kinda want [TS]

  to get from that other book is that same [TS]

  idea is that like if you just try to [TS]

  look this over here and this big easy [TS]

  relatively easy to understand pile [TS]

  called evil you miss out a lot on unlike [TS]

  how profoundly bad news it was right i [TS]

  think that thing with you write [TS]

  something off as evil I mean what what [TS]

  the fuck does that mean what does that [TS]

  mean people i'm sorry i wanted to curse [TS]

  on Hitler conversation but you know [TS]

  it'sit's it does it does seem like you [TS]

  know there's a good we should talk about [TS]

  illness [TS]

  yeah evil I mean evil is not a not a [TS]

  thing that you want to [TS]

  are off your your-your-your bright [TS]

  sunshiny middle-aged guys podcast yeah [TS]

  let's start talking about evil right [TS]

  away first 10 minutes i've said this [TS]

  before i'm gonna say it again i am you [TS]

  know that job I had in nineties was [TS]

  working on a lot of stuff with [TS]

  litigation and environmental assessments [TS]

  involving lots of stuff involving like [TS]

  chemicals so basically here's a nut [TS]

  here's the job that i had 45 years was [TS]

  working at a place where if a giant [TS]

  giant giant company got sued by somebody [TS]

  if there's any chance in the world that [TS]

  person had actually been injured like [TS]

  really honestly if there was a chance it [TS]

  would just write a check right that's [TS]

  the thing that people used to do like GE [TS]

  used to just write if you said hey [TS]

  there's PCBs in my cereal [TS]

  however implausible that was if they [TS]

  thought there was some chance that that [TS]

  could go to court and like they had a [TS]

  chance when they would just write a [TS]

  check and eventually the companies like [TS]

  hey we can't afford to do this forever [TS]

  so we got the most cynical ass annoying [TS]

  ambulance-chasing cases and had to let [TS]

  go and like do a pics and bunnies puppet [TS]

  show of science to show how look at it [TS]

  the you this guy would have to eat do [TS]

  nothing but eat cereal full of chlordane [TS]

  40 years and it's still much more likely [TS]

  his lung cancer came from his three [TS]

  packs of cigarettes a day right to do [TS]

  that because you've got a really like a [TS]

  pig's and bunnies you got to really [TS]

  bring it down and I was the era of a lot [TS]

  of like rats in your coke can and then [TS]

  people were people were were drumming up [TS]

  some some species lawsuits I i remember [TS]

  hearing around the same time starting [TS]

  maybe in the eighties I remember he [TS]

  never did this but I think this is kind [TS]

  of a coupon guy thing to do that like [TS]

  you right if you write a letter to the [TS]

  winn-dixie and you say there was a rat [TS]

  in my coke to give you free stuff right [TS]

  there that's a guy freak oh yeah yeah [TS]

  and then that became kind of an industry [TS]

  thing is though like a lot of people [TS]

  came in with like sick building syndrome [TS]

  you're supposedly the black mold or not [TS]

  even black hole just the fact that you [TS]

  know with you have these really crazy [TS]

  consultant people come in so you've got [TS]

  to go live in this mobile home that [TS]

  doesn't have any quote unquote chemicals [TS]

  in it and I became very suspicious [TS]

  no homes no no chemicals are used in the [TS]

  construction of mobile homes [TS]

  no not at all but I became very cynical [TS]

  about all that stuff you know one hit [TS]

  theory in cancer and all these ideas [TS]

  that have been you know they're pretty [TS]

  pretty bananas [TS]

  what about radon how do you feel about [TS]

  radon I think that's the thing isn't a [TS]

  big new jersey thing get right on right [TS]

  on your basement Yeah right on your [TS]

  basement is probably think they write a [TS]

  check for that you know what I mean [TS]

  we're not right on comes out it comes [TS]

  into your basement because it's because [TS]

  nature because because of nature [TS]

  yeah because God put it there mm that's [TS]

  what he would he wants is great about [TS]

  being second hour back to God Hitler [TS]

  sorry no not at all [TS]

  nobody sense how poor John my gosh you [TS]

  should sue somebody have you been [TS]

  exposed to anything recently have i ever [TS]

  you might have missed me with [TS]

  mesothelioma thinking about on daytime [TS]

  TV I've been exposed to so many bad [TS]

  ideas that I feel like they are having [TS]

  their taking a toll they're making me [TS]

  sick [TS]

  yeah the it just makes me wonder though [TS]

  I live in an old house and there are [TS]

  times when I think my family keeps [TS]

  getting sick i wonder if there's [TS]

  something that's killing us in our house [TS]

  and that's about 20 years ago that's the [TS]

  last thing the world everyone thought [TS]

  about do you have two cows syndrome [TS]

  I don't think so but I'm you know what I [TS]

  think I think it's really purely [TS]

  behavioral and cognitive which is like [TS]

  if i get out of the house and walk [TS]

  around like a fucking gentleman like get [TS]

  out of the house of I don't lay there [TS]

  and listen to podcast for literally [TS]

  eight hours i have a slightly better [TS]

  mood and I breathe better [TS]

  I think it's just sitting on my ass but [TS]

  but you know but it's nice to know [TS]

  you're a syndrome that's right there's [TS]

  nobody can sue for that radon is one of [TS]

  the densest substances that remains a [TS]

  gas under normal condition no kidding [TS]

  yes it is the operator mercury to very [TS]

  dense gas rain on our apartment yeah [TS]

  well I think we should all learn more [TS]

  about radon it would be if we do nothing [TS]

  else today we should learn more about [TS]

  right on [TS]

  I you don't real active colorless and [TS]

  odorless and tasteless noble gas see [TS]

  that round-out that's how the the KGB [TS]

  kills their their expatriates is that [TS]

  right [TS]

  something Germany kind of thing to do it [TS]

  but radon gas in their basements in new [TS]

  jersey new jersey kids get sick as I was [TS]

  I was coming here I wanted to add an [TS]

  addenda to keep moving and get out of [TS]

  the way [TS]

  Oh fantastic [TS]

  because I realized that is you know in [TS]

  its basic form it is complete and holy [TS]

  especially if you say it correctly i [TS]

  don't think i would never want to I [TS]

  would never want to accuse our listeners [TS]

  not saying correctly but you got me it's [TS]

  not keeping my hands are always not more [TS]

  it's not keeping or get out of the way [TS]

  it's keep moving and getting tired of [TS]

  constantly to both degree [TS]

  yeah absolutely absolutely and it's it's [TS]

  it's a it's a holy edict and it ended it [TS]

  belongs it belongs carved into a [TS]

  Lincoln's nose on 11 Mount Rushmore but [TS]

  actually it should be translated into [TS]

  every language and carved onto the to [TS]

  the Lincoln of your country on the Mount [TS]

  Rushmore of what your country [TS]

  let's go forward in fourth grade every [TS]

  year you always get like this day in [TS]

  history [TS]

  he's like back in Ohio we make paper [TS]

  mache Indian mounds and stuff like that [TS]

  like I state the Buckeye State absolute [TS]

  hundred percent go buckeyes I think [TS]

  there should be a module regarding keep [TS]

  moving and get out of the way at every [TS]

  level in primary education [TS]

  absolutely they should teach it they [TS]

  should want to make sure you continue to [TS]

  teach you should have to recite it at [TS]

  the DMV if you get a citation for you [TS]

  should have to go to some kind of keep [TS]

  moving gallery school but I realized [TS]

  that there that there are that there [TS]

  need to be sort of a bill of rights of [TS]

  keep moving it out of the way there [TS]

  needs to be a a some articles that go [TS]

  along with these are like your [TS]

  amendments these are like you're not [TS]

  allowed to drink no more slavery that [TS]

  that's right that's right that's right [TS]

  a universe without the First Amendment [TS]

  first amendment to the junkie million [TS]

  other way see it seems to me to be that [TS]

  we need to introduce an additional [TS]

  concept which is the concept of of [TS]

  positional relativity or inertial [TS]

  relativity insertion Paul International [TS]

  relativity which is to say that when i [TS]

  am in a crowd of people moving or [TS]

  certainly on the highway moving any [TS]

  situation where you are in a group of [TS]

  people and you're all moving the same [TS]

  direction more or less [TS]

  uh-huh so you could be in this crowd of [TS]

  people and you could be thinking to [TS]

  yourself I am keeping moving and I'm not [TS]

  in anybody's way because we're all [TS]

  moving together in the same direction [TS]

  more or less and so I am fulfilling the [TS]

  tenants of keep moving you know the way [TS]

  so I'm fine and I'm going to go back to [TS]

  sleep i'm going to start looking at my [TS]

  phone i'm gonna go back back into the [TS]

  sort of you know a text trance [TS]

  uh-huh but the reality is i find that [TS]

  you need to keep moving also relative to [TS]

  the other people who are moving around [TS]

  you it's not enough to just do some [TS]

  motion [TS]

  yeah yeah that's right you need to the [TS]

  International relativity you should [TS]

  always because of international [TS]

  relativity you should always also be [TS]

  either passing or being passed [TS]

  oh that's good you know what I mean [TS]

  right he's not busy being born is busy [TS]

  dying like that is exactly right because [TS]

  your own claws if you are not being [TS]

  passed by other people then you should [TS]

  be passing other people you should not [TS]

  be do not ever allow yourself to become [TS]

  part of a of a block movement where [TS]

  everyone is moving at the same pace [TS]

  because that is the death of innovation [TS]

  and you're also you're not leaving a [TS]

  space for somebody who needs to go super [TS]

  fast [TS]

  thank you ok exactly i had to fly on [TS]

  United last week and I i I'd it [TS]

  oh man and still mad at them and and all [TS]

  this being mad at them [TS]

  yeah has really paid off for me how's [TS]

  that I just it just kills you [TS]

  I just feels good I keep being mad at [TS]

  united and make it being over there and [TS]

  I keep going over here and and uh yes is [TS]

  what they wore winter [TS]

  this is what they pay for asking for [TS]

  first class for some reason they want to [TS]

  use United [TS]

  I was in the nice part of the bus and [TS]

  but here's the thing and I think this is [TS]

  not know where is this clear this yes [TS]

  America's highways sure but on the [TS]

  moving sidewalk [TS]

  I don't want to get all Seinfeld here [TS]

  but honestly the moving sidewalk it [TS]

  betray so much about how little [TS]

  understood the American understands [TS]

  about getting anywhere [TS]

  well and it's a very simple moving [TS]

  sidewalk is a very small petri dish is a [TS]

  controlled environment shares narrow it [TS]

  is limited and narrow there's only so [TS]

  much you can do and so therefore it is a [TS]

  heightened state where you must practice [TS]

  the ninja levels of keep moving and get [TS]

  out of the way and what did you discover [TS]

  on let me just let me just tell you [TS]

  there's all you need is you know here's [TS]

  the thing [TS]

  there are people who don't travel a lot [TS]

  who don't know about moving to the right [TS]

  either on an escalator I mean that's the [TS]

  thing I'm imagine something in in [TS]

  seattle it's definitely a thing in San [TS]

  Francisco [TS]

  I mean we were downtown yesterday and [TS]

  you can tell the people who are from out [TS]

  of town because they don't know to move [TS]

  to the right of the escalator let people [TS]

  get by right because they are from [TS]

  stockton and and there is no right or [TS]

  left in stock and comfortable it's all [TS]

  just a flat so jesus said this is the [TS]

  thing that I don't let me just add yes [TS]

  but i think people who are from a wide [TS]

  open spaces central California I was [TS]

  talking to a woman from the Czech [TS]

  Republic last night and she said as we [TS]

  were sitting and chatting and she was [TS]

  like American to the Ukraine and I was [TS]

  like never been to the Ukraine slovakia [TS]

  all mountains in Slovakia and she was [TS]

  like how you create beautiful [TS]

  well she said this is the thing about [TS]

  the Ukraine that people don't fully [TS]

  understand and Russia to which is that [TS]

  you get over you get out of the [TS]

  mountains of the slovak ear or whatever [TS]

  you have you know halfway through Poland [TS]

  it starts happening and then it's just a [TS]

  flat pan [TS]

  it's a flat pan all the way to the Ural [TS]

  Mountains there's not a there is not [TS]

  another bump all the Ukraine is [TS]

  completely flat and she said all of [TS]

  Russia is flat until you get to the year [TS]

  olds but the you know the populated part [TS]

  of Russia just flat as a pancake and [TS]

  that and she said these but the people [TS]

  in those places they don't have any [TS]

  geographical features and so they do not [TS]

  feel hemmed in by geography they don't [TS]

  because there's no ocean there too to be [TS]

  and then you spent 30 years it's like [TS]

  the Old West or something like walk [TS]

  around the planes there's there's no [TS]

  left and right like stars no left and [TS]

  right it's just like it's just like [TS]

  Stockton California it is eternity in [TS]

  every direction so why would you move to [TS]

  the left or right for any reason just [TS]

  more it's more and more stockton yeah [TS]

  it's just it's basically like the sky [TS]

  except it's under your feet and it's [TS]

  brown right and what's that thing called [TS]

  we can fly anywhere in the sky the open [TS]

  skies theory what's it called [TS]

  so open skies theory though it's called [TS]

  uh we were like planes what we will [TS]

  hardly ever had each other if they're [TS]

  just lying around what you you always [TS]

  remember what that's called Oh [TS]

  positional national/international [TS]

  relativity international relative she [TS]

  doesn't have a sense of she she met will [TS]

  be from stockton well the thing is she's [TS]

  from the czech republic which is very [TS]

  hilly it's like if it's not a hill [TS]

  it's a Dale you know what I mean like [TS]

  the czech republic is all hills and a [TS]

  lot so she's really she was born she was [TS]

  literally raised international [TS]

  relativity she has she had a tongue that [TS]

  she got into fucking check bones [TS]

  yeah and so she was commenting on her [TS]

  fellow Eastern Bloc Slavic peoples but [TS]

  it was a one of these like you choose [TS]

  that she can do that she can and the [TS]

  thing is I think the czech republic is [TS]

  the California of Central Europe stay [TS]

  clear that they feel like because and I [TS]

  think especially if you were if you were [TS]

  raised in the Czech Republic when the [TS]

  wall was there right the wall was [TS]

  essentially the late let gene something [TS]

  haha it left that means wallow left [TS]

  means wall but uh but but she's [TS]

  commenting on the Ukrainians and and the [TS]

  Russians she's trying to explain their [TS]

  mentality and the and it sounded exactly [TS]

  like how i would explain the mentality [TS]

  of someone from Nebraska or Montana or [TS]

  North Dakota there's no left or right [TS]

  it's just all [TS]

  all it's just all open big sky country [TS]

  mhm [TS]

  so anyway so you're on the beer on the [TS]

  moving sidewalk and you are encountering [TS]

  some people from stockton we just think [TS]

  there's more thing is like it's one [TS]

  thing to be a tourist who feels like [TS]

  someone was just brusk and asking you to [TS]

  move aside [TS]

  but the thing is if you're here for a [TS]

  week you'll eventually go I get it [TS]

  I'm supposed to move over to the right [TS]

  like it says on the fucking sign right i [TS]

  learned something yesterday and if you [TS]

  get to be a local and like people will [TS]

  get that an airport that doesn't happen [TS]

  it's the same reason the TSA line is so [TS]

  unbearable [TS]

  it's just it's it's literally like hell [TS]

  because it's the same thing over and [TS]

  over people always like you know what I [TS]

  tried to put water through the other day [TS]

  i'm a pro and i actually tried to put [TS]

  water throw up right now on the worst [TS]

  and that they got a guy that stands [TS]

  right there and shouts at you [TS]

  ya to take your water our know and I was [TS]

  I was like I was so so what's the word [TS]

  like supplications like I'm so sorry I i [TS]

  had to get up at 3am my time to be here [TS]

  and I'm i can't believe i have a smart [TS]

  water in my bag I'm really really sorry [TS]

  yeah that's not me no here's the [TS]

  dangerous one the dangerous dangerous [TS]

  one is the pair of to me big beefy guys [TS]

  yeah who are walking fast ish down the [TS]

  middle like two big heavy guys no [TS]

  offense walking down the middle at like [TS]

  a slightly above average pace that right [TS]

  that's the worst because they think if [TS]

  they think they've nailed it [TS]

  they think they are both keeping moving [TS]

  and getting out with you think it with [TS]

  me at all if they're thinking at all and [TS]

  I think they're probably not they're [TS]

  feeling like cock of the walk like they [TS]

  have really they understand that this is [TS]

  not something you just stand on [TS]

  you-know-what with a big wide stance [TS]

  make it came all the way here from [TS]

  central California they're coming to the [TS]

  the beef herders to convention downtown [TS]

  in the top 10 in the castro had they are [TS]

  having a good old time getting where [TS]

  they're going but then he had a roller [TS]

  bag got the roller bag here comes Merlin [TS]

  mongoose [TS]

  yeah and I'm like I'm like a little [TS]

  squirrelly guy right yeah that thing on [TS]

  your way to somewhere [TS]

  yeah but I need to get somewhere but i [TS]

  also want to teach oh yes i want to [TS]

  teach I want to be a dick about it but [TS]

  the thing is no matter how fast you're [TS]

  going there's always somebody else that [TS]

  needs to go faster and that's why it's [TS]

  international relativity you have to [TS]

  understand you always gotta make room [TS]

  for somebody who's like a bullet going [TS]

  through that and that's what makes room [TS]

  for the next bullet make room for the [TS]

  bullet Nick room for the bullet and and [TS]

  they they looked at me like I said [TS]

  excuse me and not a mean way but i can [TS]

  use me like as in like you're literally [TS]

  walking down the center of the moving [TS]

  sidewalk and taking the entire birth and [TS]

  just because you're moving doesn't mean [TS]

  you're getting out of the way em anyway [TS]

  I i have god I just if we could all get [TS]

  that there's so many things that would [TS]

  be so much easier to deal with if these [TS]

  if international relativity were [TS]

  introduced [TS]

  well I'm this is a concept that they [TS]

  understand in Europe much better because [TS]

  in poison ivy lesson rights in Europe [TS]

  John there everybody in your nose right [TS]

  where the left on the right arm because [TS]

  if they make them if they step to the [TS]

  left and then they get to the ride and [TS]

  put the hands on their hips and then all [TS]

  of a sudden there in the duty of [TS]

  luxembourg and somebody else you know [TS]

  when somebody else's their King and that [TS]

  you're doing the last time warp right [TS]

  site work so so but the thing is like [TS]

  however many years ago it was and i [TS]

  think it was like carter administration [TS]

  when they put up all those signs that [TS]

  said a slower slower traffic move right [TS]

  like they were trying to do that in [TS]

  America they were trying to teach us and [TS]

  one when i was when i got my driver's [TS]

  license it was one of the questions in [TS]

  the driver's license exam and and they [TS]

  really hammered on it like slower [TS]

  traffic keep right the left lane is for [TS]

  passing oh maybe John do you remember is [TS]

  it just me or wasn't there a time in [TS]

  america where that leftmost lane was [TS]

  literally called the passing lane but [TS]

  what has lain it was the passing lane [TS]

  the passing lane an entire Lane for [TS]

  passing because everybody's got to go [TS]

  faster or slower you use the passing [TS]

  lane to pass and then you move over no [TS]

  matter how fast you're going [TS]

  that's right and we'll just go over [TS]

  there cuz you're going 65 go in there [TS]

  and like live there [TS]

  yeah i'm i'm going the speed limit is 65 [TS]

  I'm going 65 and no one should be [TS]

  allowed to go fast and a plan traffic [TS]

  cop see this is and this is that this is [TS]

  the i-5 problem if you get out there [TS]

  around Sacramento you encounter these [TS]

  people who not only don't know left from [TS]

  right but they've got some you know they [TS]

  just came from a church in a mobile home [TS]

  and there and they believe that they're [TS]

  doing God's work by keeping keeping the [TS]

  traffic tempo down you know like 65 [TS]

  miles an hour is the speed limit and i'm [TS]

  here to enforce it but in in in Europe [TS]

  they never they never decided that we [TS]

  decided somewhere at some point in [TS]

  America that all that was we were that [TS]

  was just a suggestion [TS]

  we were just suggesting that you keep [TS]

  right but then we're not really [TS]

  enforcing that and that's not really [TS]

  anything there are some states where it [TS]

  actually isn't the law and you know and [TS]

  it became like oh let's just you know [TS]

  can we all just agree on cheese [TS]

  yeah but in Europe it's amazing and so [TS]

  you see it not only on the highways but [TS]

  you see it like in public spaces to [TS]

  people understand to get out of the way [TS]

  the bullet [TS]

  yeah and you know the problem is the [TS]

  bullet this is the other thing the [TS]

  bullet could be Hitler at any time [TS]

  yeah and so you do want to get out of [TS]

  the way of the bullet [TS]

  uh-huh no wait a little wheels you know [TS]

  it's basically this is really i hate to [TS]

  say this I I nothing against our [TS]

  wonderful provincial American friends [TS]

  but there is something kind of big city [TS]

  about it and that's why I think one [TS]

  reason Manhattan feels so Brask to [TS]

  people but you know here's here's the [TS]

  part that's really going to bum you and [TS]

  keep you up at night is that the people [TS]

  who want you to get the hell out of [TS]

  their way on the sidewalk don't actually [TS]

  care about you [TS]

  no don't it's about society if your [TS]

  house is about keeping moving it's about [TS]

  getting out of the way it's about what's [TS]

  the phrase inner a an inertial [TS]

  internationally international relatively [TS]

  yeah and so but yeah you're actually [TS]

  right but it's very self-involved it's [TS]

  very provincial to say like the speed [TS]

  limit is 65 ergo yeah i can i can charge [TS]

  out here [TS]

  ergo I could be at any lane because no [TS]

  one should be going faster than anything [TS]

  that's why I love driving in Manhattan [TS]

  because the rules of driving in [TS]

  Manhattan are if the nose of your car is [TS]

  one micrometer in front of the nose of [TS]

  the car next to you then you have [TS]

  positional Authority and you can do [TS]

  whatever you want and that guy has to [TS]

  watch out right like if you get in front [TS]

  of another car even half a car length in [TS]

  front of another car then you can more [TS]

  or less change lanes at will [TS]

  because the presumption is that you are [TS]

  ahead of that guy so it's his [TS]

  responsibility to look out for you and [TS]

  you are looking forward and making [TS]

  decisions about what's coming at you [TS]

  like all of Manhattan traffic is looking [TS]

  forward very different from somebody [TS]

  who's used to the on ramp off ramp by [TS]

  the walmart where we always politely to [TS]

  do a zipper thing there is no merge [TS]

  concept in New York you never know [TS]

  whenever like puts their arm over the [TS]

  passenger seat and cranes their neck [TS]

  around to see if there's a spot and puts [TS]

  their blinker on and slows down and [TS]

  waits for a spot because there's never a [TS]

  spot right you know no one will ever [TS]

  make a spot for you [TS]

  so the only way that you can get around [TS]

  and that's not because they're mean [TS]

  that's just because that's how driving [TS]

  works that's just how driving works [TS]

  right and so you just drive and you're [TS]

  looking forward and you assume that the [TS]

  people who are not in your peripheral [TS]

  vision are watching you because you're [TS]

  in front of them and if you use if you [TS]

  turn right then they get out of your way [TS]

  and it's it's genius you drive in New [TS]

  York and no one [TS]

  the thing is no one ever hits the brakes [TS]

  you just are all moving in a symbiosis [TS]

  because you're you have this awareness [TS]

  and you recognize that because you don't [TS]

  really have to look behind you then all [TS]

  then all of a sudden like what you need [TS]

  to do is really understood and taken [TS]

  care of which is like I've got three [TS]

  guys in front of me and I'm watching [TS]

  them and okay this guy's moving so I'm [TS]

  moving into that space you know I'm [TS]

  moving into that space inside it's [TS]

  almost like a beautiful dangerous dance [TS]

  it's it's the it's the best [TS]

  everybody's going out how in the world [TS]

  could traffic on Third Avenue go 65 [TS]

  miles an hour but it happens all the [TS]

  time and it's because nobody's looking [TS]

  back they could just break the rearview [TS]

  mirrors off they're just looking forward [TS]

  and dealing with the 325 things in front [TS]

  of that right [TS]

  ok there's a bike messenger on the left [TS]

  this taxicab looks like he's looking for [TS]

  a fair there's a delivery truck up there [TS]

  I see him two blocks as fast as reactive [TS]

  as opposed to wondering how soon you get [TS]

  to go 65 on a highway again and being [TS]

  frustrated because the because the brake [TS]

  lights when do I get to go 65 is I'm [TS]

  gonna go 65 yeah yeah it's so it's so [TS]

  secretary Hasse passive that that that [TS]

  version of it is [TS]

  yeah that the the country ass highway [TS]

  version of driving you know is is the [TS]

  worst and when you when you get into an [TS]

  environment and the thing is all all [TS]

  like center central cities have their [TS]

  own tempo I mean Detroit is very you [TS]

  would think Detroit kind of midwest de [TS]

  but because the car culture is so strong [TS]

  going into detroit and it feels it [TS]

  really feels like lineup lineup to make [TS]

  a run at the death star you know like [TS]

  you just strap in and you just here we [TS]

  go we're going in like that in Boston [TS]

  oh yeah Miami Boston the Boston has the [TS]

  additional advantage of like there are [TS]

  no street signs given up trying to [TS]

  explain i'm offering LOL streets [TS]

  yeah yeah anyway so i love i love that [TS]

  experience of driving in a place where [TS]

  and and that's the thing about driving [TS]

  on the on the autobahns in Europe like [TS]

  if you doze for a second if you get over [TS]

  into that passing lane and you are going [TS]

  a hundred and ninety kilometers an hour [TS]

  and you think to yourself I'm pretty hot [TS]

  shit you know I'm going 290 kilometers [TS]

  an hour i'm over here in the path of [TS]

  passing lane there's a bunch of [TS]

  there's a bunch of of trucks and I'm [TS]

  just gonna I'm just gonna I'm pretty [TS]

  happy with myself I'm gonna I'm gonna [TS]

  relax for once you start down to like a [TS]

  sense of like there's nobody who could [TS]

  ever object to what I'm doing [TS]

  yeah you know it's against the classic [TS]

  kind of like annoying America thing of [TS]

  like I've covered my bases here I know [TS]

  I'm not actively doing anything to [TS]

  harass anyone so therefore nobody could [TS]

  ever have any objection to what I'm [TS]

  doing [TS]

  yeah right i mean i'm going hundred and [TS]

  ninety kilometers an hour i'm fucking I [TS]

  you who could who could have a problem [TS]

  with this and you doze for one second it [TS]

  comes the bullet you look down at the [TS]

  fucking stereo for one second and you [TS]

  look up in your rear-view mirror and [TS]

  there is a 500 class mercedes that was [TS]

  going 220 kilometers an hour and he is [TS]

  Nell like metallurgically grafted to [TS]

  your rear bumper [TS]

  he's well you're observing a clap punked [TS]

  he is flashing his brights in a way that [TS]

  is so angry like there's something about [TS]

  the like the flash the brights flash on [TS]

  a German car that is just like Octomom [TS]

  shalimar she'll like it just looks [TS]

  different [TS]

  so they it's designed to communicate [TS]

  anger you know in a way that we can't [TS]

  relate to hear and you feel like such a [TS]

  boob and then invariably that happens [TS]

  right at a place where there were on the [TS]

  right-hand lane [TS]

  there's a stack of trucks and there's no [TS]

  way for me nowhere for you to get out as [TS]

  you hadn't used on what why would I ever [TS]

  need to move over why would have to [TS]

  start thinking about that right look at [TS]

  me i'm mr. guy I'm i'll wait for [TS]

  somebody to come up behind me and I'll [TS]

  notice them [TS]

  yeah and maybe they flash their lights [TS]

  or something which is a very mean thing [TS]

  to do and then I'll move over when it's [TS]

  convenient for me but i'll move over [TS]

  one's coming for me but invariably what [TS]

  happens is you become the problem and [TS]

  and he never felt like the problem so [TS]

  much you [TS]

  nobody's nobody's more of the problem [TS]

  then somebody's pretty convinced that [TS]

  could never be part of the problem if [TS]

  you're like you should [TS]

  me you you're like one of those Gunny a [TS]

  bouncy balls in a particular again Rock [TS]

  run equipment right exactly everything [TS]

  is just to get and then fucking [TS]

  gummibär ok guys the ball or your [TS]

  brother or glory blog wrong huh [TS]

  you've heard of so-called pass out yeah [TS]

  I dated a gal I who is in the United [TS]

  States you never tell stories like this [TS]

  yeah well I'm a very private guy no you [TS]

  stay over here in my lane [TS]

  tell us more well it's just interesting [TS]

  because I'm this was in 1999 here in [TS]

  girl very young yes expect [TS]

  unconscionably young girl that I was [TS]

  saying we have to pass out not to not to [TS]

  tote not to say too much but past i was [TS]

  down in that area down around the Czech [TS]

  border where this is this is why bring [TS]

  it up hills and dales yes well and [TS]

  really it was more checked in German in [TS]

  a lot of ways [TS]

  hmm talk more Noelle she had am she had [TS]

  a real super East German kind of [TS]

  childhood you know like her father was a [TS]

  surgeon as they say like he was a doctor [TS]

  and he got whatever the East German [TS]

  government felt like paying him for [TS]

  stuff constant you know weird like [TS]

  mystery meat privations you know it was [TS]

  interesting she was right on the line i [TS]

  mean i think this is that pass out might [TS]

  have been in stripes for all I know it [TS]

  might as well in oh I see I see what [TS]

  you're supposed to go look at the map [TS]

  it's right there [TS]

  oh I know where it is that's not cool [TS]

  ask coat-of-arms Carla Callaghan Griffin [TS]

  like a dragon's together yeah really you [TS]

  know what we don't have enough Griffin's [TS]

  in America that's another problem with [TS]

  this place [TS]

  I mean you know pass out as a is like um [TS]

  yeah it's one of those old towns it's [TS]

  like a town where you start scratching [TS]

  the surface near like Oh was [TS]

  incorporated in 1100 except it was [TS]

  already a bit already been a Roman town [TS]

  4,000 sure you know like one of those [TS]

  generally anymore the story than that [TS]

  except that i was at a twenty-year-old [TS]

  the nineties and she was kind of east [TS]

  germany to play basketball she was [TS]

  almost six feet tall [TS]

  Wow astonishing is real outlier for me [TS]

  see like i like that you know i always I [TS]

  always imagined I've got your number [TS]

  yeah but then you throw a curveball like [TS]

  this every pound hard i'm not hard once [TS]

  dated a nice german basketball player [TS]

  you know she really large hands [TS]

  um yeah yeah I'm worried about the house [TS]

  I worry about the highway so that's your [TS]

  denim it really is but the thing is the [TS]

  beautiful part is and keep moving and [TS]

  get out of the way it just it's it's [TS]

  it's a bit is a base it's the best of [TS]

  America and the best of Europe again in [TS]

  a social psychology uh it's a it's a [TS]

  method of understanding the world that [TS]

  will help improve everything now you're [TS]

  adding science with the inertial [TS]

  relativity [TS]

  yeah yeah you got a bullet you have to [TS]

  you have to always I mean all these all [TS]

  these edicts I'm realizing you know part [TS]

  of what makes them lasting is that the [TS]

  that they are flexible they can have [TS]

  sort of you know amendments to them [TS]

  right do they do grow with the time's [TS]

  right not I do not believe that there [TS]

  should be Roderick on the line original [TS]

  lists who are trying to imagine what the [TS]

  founders maybe just don't want things [TS]

  judges out there you don't want a lot of [TS]

  activism it's true you don't want you [TS]

  don't want people who are trying to try [TS]

  to legislate from the bench if you know [TS]

  what I'm so but you do want to allow [TS]

  these edicts to be improved upon by [TS]

  future generations because they're going [TS]

  to have to adapt to a future time when [TS]

  everybody's going to be on hoverboards [TS]

  or or in pneumatic tubes and some of [TS]

  these things are going to be some of [TS]

  these things are going to think have [TS]

  been solved [TS]

  it's not really a true isn't it won't [TS]

  work in a pneumatic tube well and i know [TS]

  i'm not sure how you would pass somebody [TS]

  in a pneumatic tube well i think if you [TS]

  had any sense you'd engineering [TS]

  pneumatic tube that takes that into [TS]

  account [TS]

  right right exactly there's gonna be [TS]

  there's gonna be five tubes and you're [TS]

  going to be able to choose the two [TS]

  right that best expresses the the speed [TS]

  with which you would like to be [TS]

  automatically transmits be important [TS]

  that you continually reach use the [TS]

  appropriate amount is nice right well [TS]

  yeah I mean I think somebody from [TS]

  stockton or from a you know from Kiev is [TS]

  going to look at walk up to these tubes [TS]

  and he's gonna be like how am I supposed [TS]

  to choose this like I'm not getting in a [TS]

  tube the last tube that last thing that [TS]

  they saw that resemble the pneumatic [TS]

  tube transporter was some kind of cow [TS]

  shoot like a slide into McDonald's [TS]

  playground right so they're going to [TS]

  choose the one all the way to the right [TS]

  it's a nice big tube slow moving to the [TS]

  minivan of tubes [TS]

  yeah you just get in there and sort of [TS]

  like was Shannon just sort of oh just [TS]

  captain seats we just get real [TS]

  comfortable [TS]

  yeah it's just a gentle wish that wishes [TS]

  you off to your destination all the way [TS]

  on the left on the other hand [TS]

  yeah you're gonna see a line of people [TS]

  there in downhill ski costumes some of [TS]

  your people in the app class somebody is [TS]

  covering them with the you-know-what [TS]

  like motor oil they have goggles on and [TS]

  they're lining up to get into that left [TS]

  hand to because that is a that that the [TS]

  pneumatic pressure is a lot higher than [TS]

  them [TS]

  yes by tighter fit it's a future [TS]

  attitudes of extremity yeah you are [TS]

  right about pass out first paragraph 2 [TS]

  in the 2nd century BC many of the Bowie [TS]

  tribe which north across the Alps out of [TS]

  northern Italy by the Romans in 70 new [TS]

  capital code blue durham by the Romans [TS]

  now within the inch dot district PESA [TS]

  2nd century pc turns out [TS]

  really yeah yeah around Europe is old [TS]

  John Europe is old [TS]

  the thing about past hours it is in it [TS]

  is a Bavarian town and Bavaria was never [TS]

  in the East no portion of Bavaria was [TS]

  part of Eastern Europe so our [TS]

  resemblance to a [TS]

  to a check or Eastern person was much I [TS]

  think you were interpreting a kind of [TS]

  universal Germanic severe severity that [TS]

  you know what that's on me she had very [TS]

  very blonde hair the varying severity if [TS]

  you will but very severe phobia for the [TS]

  verity as we call it [TS]

  yeah okay and that but you know it's [TS]

  sometimes it's tricky over there you [TS]

  know there are a lot of Germans yes true [TS]

  and they're different from each other [TS]

  which is the which is the confusing part [TS]

  you know Germany's you know Germany's [TS]

  not that big it's not much bigger than I [TS]

  don't know rotonda in stockton right [TS]

  somewhere you can put all of Germany in [TS]

  California because Germany compared to [TS]

  like what state would it be [TS]

  it's probably the biggest texas right [TS]

  well that's a good question how big is [TS]

  Germany big is Germany relative to a [TS]

  Texas say uh huh and says i don't think [TS]

  there are 80 million people in Germany [TS]

  now is that right 60 million 80 million [TS]

  people at 80 point six million day after [TS]

  the United States Germany is the second [TS]

  most popular migration destination in [TS]

  the world I think that's true [TS]

  a lot of people want to move to germany [TS]

  who they got they got a mythical [TS]

  creature on the coat-of-arms pretty [TS]

  handsome how they do they do they've had [TS]

  I don't and I think a lot of them don't [TS]

  think its mythical haha this episode of [TS]

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  woman on the the woman from the czech [TS]

  republic i was talking to she was like [TS]

  so I mean because we were talking about [TS]

  a lot of different things and at one [TS]

  point she was like well you know for a [TS]

  while there in the nineties all the [TS]

  people all the young people in the Czech [TS]

  Republic we're learning English because [TS]

  it was very fashionable and it seems [TS]

  like that's the way we were going but [TS]

  now everyone is learning German again [TS]

  because just it's just for practical [TS]

  purposes at the Germans are I mean [TS]

  basically they have um they have on [TS]

  solution suggested and land again but [TS]

  this time this time just with like [TS]

  tourists caravans and there's no that [TS]

  and that was a little bit depressing to [TS]

  me because I do remember being in Prague [TS]

  at a time when it felt like an American [TS]

  colony a little bit really i thought was [TS]

  uniquely European all for sure but I [TS]

  mean in the sense of like the young [TS]

  people and the energy that they had for [TS]

  the future very cosmopolitan oh i mean [TS]

  if if it hadn't been for the wall [TS]

  I think prague prague would have evolved [TS]

  to be the capital of Europe and I think [TS]

  it may one day you know like Prague have [TS]

  the disadvantage of always I mean for [TS]

  her a long time being kind of a a colony [TS]

  right it was an Austrian colony a second [TS]

  city in an empire and so Vienna was the [TS]

  capital and prague could only ever be a [TS]

  you know up a spoke the the checks could [TS]

  only be a spoke of this Empire and then [TS]

  they had a like a brief period there [TS]

  between the wars where they seem that [TS]

  there seemed like possibility for them [TS]

  and then they were you know they were [TS]

  absorbed by the Nazis and then maybe [TS]

  then became part of the Warsaw Pact and [TS]

  they never had their moment in modern [TS]

  times but project itself and the Czech [TS]

  people and that I mean I think they are [TS]

  the best of Central Europe and it's it [TS]

  should be the and the problem is it's [TS]

  gonna get [TS]

  it's going to turn into a tourist shit [TS]

  hole it already has but like there's [TS]

  something about it should be the center [TS]

  of central europe it's a very feminine [TS]

  city it's a very like and feminine in [TS]

  both ways like it's it's um it's also [TS]

  dangerous like feminine it's and it has [TS]

  claws claws out right at your link to [TS]

  the the the Buddhist whoppin Buddhist [TS]

  weapon and i'm saying that right the [TS]

  federal coat of arms and it's the volume [TS]

  our Eagle which they adopted the federal [TS]

  republic of germany uh adopted as its [TS]

  symbol in the 450 what's interesting is [TS]

  the evolution of this thing over time [TS]

  fucking become less terrifying and by [TS]

  the time you get to the standard of the [TS]

  federal president it's really more like [TS]

  an angry bird like five video game yeah [TS]

  oh look that's too bad you look at that [TS]

  it did it i mean i remember you get more [TS]

  of a death from above thing and now [TS]

  looks like you're going to try and knock [TS]

  some pics / I remember the you know the [TS]

  be so the the East German coat-of-arms [TS]

  always had like a hammer and a compass [TS]

  because they were building as workers [TS]

  utopia [TS]

  um and it compared to like the the [TS]

  federal republic or whatever the the [TS]

  West is the last night's like so the GDR [TS]

  was the German Democratic Republic and [TS]

  the other one was the federal republic [TS]

  of germany is that how it went that [TS]

  right whatever the further the FRG in [TS]

  the GDR but I'm but yeah that like the [TS]

  Eagle seemed pretty badass [TS]

  but then you you don't have to go back [TS]

  too far to see the Nazi eagle which was [TS]

  not that but that doesn't make you feel [TS]

  warm and fuzzy but then you go all the [TS]

  way back and it doesn't look like an [TS]

  eagle at all it looks like a freaking [TS]

  Buzzard it looks like it it looks like a [TS]

  Griffin like a death Buzzard yeah kind [TS]

  of [TS]

  and it looks like it's kind of like a [TS]

  little kid going i have strong muscles [TS]

  like yeah I'm strike certain flexing oh [TS]

  my god it's got so many and funny [TS]

  chicken feet [TS]

  thank you for sending me that the bundle [TS]

  swapan isn't it nice and then there's no [TS]

  way then there's the the two-headed [TS]

  Buddhist whoppin what if you go even [TS]

  further back the original german [TS]

  confederation will be as wide hided [TS]

  think it was invited to drop my goodness [TS]

  there's so many Eagles there's naked [TS]

  guys dressed up like a green goddess [TS]

  said salad dressing outfit [TS]

  yeah well let's see that I think I think [TS]

  that's the best German ever i've talked [TS]

  about that before right the the like [TS]

  nascent yeah the drawings right a druid [TS]

  worship the right tree worship that goes [TS]

  on in that country and is generally lady [TS]

  on in all of Central Europe yes they [TS]

  really are only Christian on the surface [TS]

  and surface especially surface [TS]

  Christians and beneath that they are [TS]

  still sacrificing lambs to the nature [TS]

  God's camp Germans love to camp in short [TS]

  pants like hiking biking up to the [TS]

  parking lot and hiking down to the [TS]

  parking lot of the other side for food [TS]

  that's not to give away too much not to [TS]

  reveal too much about my book of hiking [TS]

  understand yes they do they really like [TS]

  donkeys like West if they have to [TS]

  yeah but they're you know they're really [TS]

  corner they really want some labels [TS]

  around anyway I don't know why I keep [TS]

  getting cold [TS]

  you know I think it might be that you [TS]

  live in us in a in a sick house i might [TS]

  be a sick house i'm pretty sure we've [TS]

  got the asbestos in our tubes [TS]

  yeah you have you everybody's got [TS]

  asbestos in their tubes yeah [TS]

  but i feel you know like ever since my [TS]

  experiment and let now I'm not this is [TS]

  on casting at my experiment in going [TS]

  sugar-free oh wow so we can get really [TS]

  backing off that a year ago [TS]

  oh I get some get some late-night dining [TS]

  at state there's there's just been [TS]

  sterile backsliding and I don't know and [TS]

  the thing the thing was when i first had [TS]

  sugar after i had been sugar free for [TS]

  for a long time like whenever I would [TS]

  have even a little bit of sugar i would [TS]

  i would immediately recognized that it [TS]

  was poison like it felt like poison I [TS]

  like your body almost 12 reject it [TS]

  well yeah because you would you just get [TS]

  eat at a rather I would get crazy [TS]

  immediately like your mind would just be [TS]

  like wow dude I feel incredible but also [TS]

  i just a taste weird if you haven't had [TS]

  a candy bar really long time ago to be [TS]

  the candy bars like this is who eats [TS]

  this this is your easy [TS]

  yeah and you're and just wondering this [TS]

  should be a one-bite operation no way [TS]

  should there be a super size Snickers [TS]

  that's disgusting [TS]

  yeah exactly i mats and that's a perfect [TS]

  as that's perfectly true like one bite [TS]

  of confection you get the whole [TS]

  everything that's good is in that first [TS]

  bite and everything that follows is just [TS]

  like garbage at the perfect way to put [TS]

  it [TS]

  it's a camp train of followers and what [TS]

  at Camp to camp train right you know [TS]

  when an Army moves through oh yeah that [TS]

  you're talking about the German [TS]

  backpacking well in a sense we went to [TS]

  last night watch acting i watch Henry [TS]

  the fifth and I ate a point-of-sale bean [TS]

  ice cream [TS]

  yeah thank you and that you didn't come [TS]

  in the fifth that's what's happening to [TS]

  me too and you know what what my gateway [TS]

  drug was I found some gluten-free um [TS]

  granola know what gluten-free granola [TS]

  and then it seemed possible [TS]

  well I know and then someone else [TS]

  introduced me to nonfat Greek yogurt [TS]

  and so I was like listen I got all the [TS]

  ingredients here i got nonfat Greek [TS]

  yogurt i got gluten-free granola I got [TS]

  those bags with a near beer and alcohol [TS]

  those bags that you get now at the [TS]

  supermarkets where you get a 15-pound [TS]

  bag of blackberries raspberries [TS]

  blueberries and strawberries all mixed [TS]

  together and frozen which is it that is [TS]

  a technology that like if all of [TS]

  California if everyone in California has [TS]

  to die in order to keep the fruit [TS]

  factories producing cheap berries I feel [TS]

  like it's a trade-off that I'm willing [TS]

  to consider [TS]

  I agree I agree a terrible state and and [TS]

  the truth is that the berries are one of [TS]

  the few things that have not gotten [TS]

  awfully yet it's not awful like tomatoes [TS]

  have gotten off or peaches have gotten [TS]

  awful you can still have a good [TS]

  blueberry or blueberry a good strawberry [TS]

  bad strawberry but they're not [TS]

  categorically shit like PS yeah they [TS]

  have they haven't they haven't read them [TS]

  to the point that there's no flavor [TS]

  texture of the next relation we got one [TS]

  banana now that's right that's right [TS]

  there is only one kind of banana the [TS]

  other day I look down at my little [TS]

  daughter and she was she had a half a [TS]

  banana and she was applying it to her [TS]

  lips like lipstick all and I was like [TS]

  what are you doing and she said just [TS]

  putting on some banana lipstick adorable [TS]

  and I felt and she you know and she said [TS]

  it and looked at me as though it was it [TS]

  couldn't be more obvious what she was [TS]

  doing but I did feel a little bit like [TS]

  the banana nose a banana that's that has [TS]

  a that's mostly starch does feel a [TS]

  little bit like lip balm and and less [TS]

  like food you know this little gritty [TS]

  yeah these starchy tasteless modern [TS]

  bananas but anyway if we have to die [TS]

  verte the whole uh the ball every River [TS]

  that comes out of the southwest right [TS]

  well you know having a drought you're [TS]

  saying you're saying plenty of water [TS]

  plenty of cheap workers just keep the [TS]

  frozen berries coming just pour that [TS]

  shit on to the berry farms and if I mean [TS]

  la is going to end up devolved into [TS]

  water riots and you know and [TS]

  mass sort of like terrible immigration [TS]

  and at by which i mean like armies of [TS]

  thirsty people marching north in [TS]

  tattered clothes yet his la needs a [TS]

  reason to be more like either do nor mad [TS]

  max that's what we need right now [TS]

  resource riots on top of it all yeah [TS]

  that's gonna happen no matter what and I [TS]

  just say fence off those berry fields [TS]

  pop some corn let preference but guard [TS]

  towers around the berry fields and just [TS]

  let those la people you know march to [TS]

  the sea or whatever but keep those [TS]

  berries coming but I so i started making [TS]

  gluten-free granola with with them with [TS]

  nonfat Greek yogurt and frozen berries [TS]

  and I felt very virtuous because i had i [TS]

  was doing all the right things here but [TS]

  what I was really doing was making a [TS]

  giant parfait sunday still technically a [TS]

  lot of sugar [TS]

  well and a lot of just just a massive I [TS]

  mean because I because because once i [TS]

  felt like i had given myself a pass [TS]

  I be nice to eat a large mixing bowl of [TS]

  it [TS]

  yeah i did not impose any size [TS]

  restrictions on it southend and i was i [TS]

  was basically making popcorn bowl of [TS]

  this stuff and and I was like this is [TS]

  incredible you know it's a it's like [TS]

  that the the secretary at the place i [TS]

  used to the stock brokerage where I [TS]

  worked back when I was still drinking [TS]

  who I overheard one day talking to her [TS]

  the her desk partner and she said have [TS]

  you ever have you ever tried these [TS]

  fat-free brownies and the co-worker was [TS]

  like no this was when fat-free yeah [TS]

  brownies were knew she was like they're [TS]

  incredible i mean i ate a whole pan of [TS]

  them they're fat-free and like four cups [TS]

  of sugar fat free and i was like Lady [TS]

  yeah four cups of sugar exactly right so [TS]

  anyway so that was my gateway these [TS]

  parfaits i'm jon is very pretty soon I [TS]

  was just like what I'm gonna be eating [TS]

  4,000 calories of non-fat yogurt i might [TS]

  as well be on [TS]

  a magical just eat ben & jerry's and [TS]

  butt but I feel like to get back to [TS]

  where the jumping-off point was here [TS]

  that is why I'm sick because i still [TS]

  have this sense memory i saw this this [TS]

  this distant memory of knowing how [TS]

  poison sugar is and now it's in my body [TS]

  again to the to the to the degree that I [TS]

  can't sense it when i put in [TS]

  oh no you're back on your back your back [TS]

  on sugar basically well it's in there [TS]

  you've got you've got a baseline amount [TS]

  of sugar and which is going to make you [TS]

  want more sugar we even if you're not [TS]

  conscious of it that's exactly right and [TS]

  i think that's how it is [TS]

  yeah that's exactly how it i didn't [TS]

  begin my night saying well i'm gonna [TS]

  have a all of this ice cream [TS]

  no but then it was gone you know yeah [TS]

  I'm Agincourt that's that's enough [TS]

  collagen up the gentle my condition [TS]

  yeah as in core wow that's a real thing [TS]

  it's a real thing it really happened [TS]

  yeah that's thirty years war i keep you [TS]

  know there was a time when I felt like [TS]

  the thirty years war was the key to [TS]

  understanding everything was that [TS]

  educates not that's not the hundred [TS]

  years or 30 years or no no 30 years I [TS]

  mean a sort of sort of unrelated uh-huh [TS]

  but sort of not everything in Europe is [TS]

  revived third thirty years war came [TS]

  later but but but thirty years war is [TS]

  like three years and years or a hundred [TS]

  years war that's right for the roses [TS]

  okay well yeah we're just saying words [TS]

  for of the world via century of World [TS]

  War when you're in the thirty years war [TS]

  is the one that happened in a sort of a [TS]

  post Martin Luther and it really felt [TS]

  like that was the first for a long time [TS]

  it felt like that was the key for me to [TS]

  understand everything that happened [TS]

  subsequently in Europe and that but the [TS]

  problem with the thirty years war is [TS]

  there's nothing there's no way to keep [TS]

  it in your mind there's no central [TS]

  there's really no central figure there's [TS]

  no central battle there's no central [TS]

  event really it's it's just like all [TS]

  against all chaos war that lasted for 30 [TS]

  years and and the end result was mostly [TS]

  that everyone everyone was tired and all [TS]

  of the good things were had been burned [TS]

  you know it was that it was the first [TS]

  sort of total war where everything just [TS]

  the armies would come into a town and [TS]

  they would go out the other side and [TS]

  there would just be nothing left on card [TS]

  and and then everybody just got [TS]

  exhausted and and just sort of petered [TS]

  out sort of thing and so it's very hard [TS]

  to keep like I read several books about [TS]

  it and I have this very clear picture of [TS]

  all that you know Charles the fifth and [TS]

  all these people that were that were the [TS]

  source material for all the stuff that [TS]

  came after right you couldn't look at [TS]

  the american revolution or or Napoleon [TS]

  or or the French Revolution or anything [TS]

  that came later without understanding [TS]

  this cauldron of the thirty years war [TS]

  but now it's been you know half a dozen [TS]

  years since i read a book about it and I [TS]

  couldn't really tell you anything about [TS]

  it because it is because it just it's [TS]

  not just them i'm old and my brain is a [TS]

  sieve [TS]

  but but there's no even as i was reading [TS]

  books about it I was like the person [TS]

  writing this book does not understand [TS]

  the scope of what they're talking about [TS]

  because there's too much [TS]

  there are too many factors going in and [TS]

  coming out the other side there were too [TS]

  many [TS]

  many [TS]

  actors and it's just like Oh King Gustav [TS]

  of sweden now isn't how he's riding into [TS]

  what now his army is involved like where [TS]

  did they come from one of those [TS]

  different time were like today you if [TS]

  anything happened between any two [TS]

  countries we would know about it [TS]

  the second that happened and everybody [TS]

  would have a theory everybody in the [TS]

  entire on the entire planet would have a [TS]

  theory because they they have a record [TS]

  about it and then what it might be weeks [TS]

  before you heard about something right [TS]

  right you're saying I mean it was it [TS]

  wasn't like it wasn't even like the 43 [TS]

  can show a newsreel and go like this is [TS]

  what it means is pearl harbor right this [TS]

  is this is what this is what we're [TS]

  fighting for [TS]

  it must have been much more local and [TS]

  localized and I think there were there [TS]

  were you know whole swaths of events in [TS]

  the thirty years war where there were no [TS]

  witnesses who survived from the other [TS]

  side of the story right you got one side [TS]

  of the story because everybody on the [TS]

  other side of the story died [TS]

  yeah and and you know I like I often i [TS]

  often weep for the lost human the the [TS]

  you know that we make so much progress [TS]

  and then we have these sweeping wars and [TS]

  kind of like everything is ruined right [TS]

  like it in a way like bullets same way [TS]

  that you weep for the library at [TS]

  Alexandria right like oh if only we had [TS]

  if only we had all those books and had [TS]

  always had them there wouldn't have been [TS]

  dark ages or something but in fact you [TS]

  know the more you study the more you [TS]

  realize like ads to stall stall [TS]

  construction paper and glue that's all [TS]

  we're all just silent green light up all [TS]

  line up off go into the grinders that [TS]

  are under every taco bell you know every [TS]

  third person that goes into a taco bell [TS]

  doesn't come out this reason all those [TS]

  birds hang out outside you know and [TS]

  we'll walk by yesterday morning on the [TS]

  way for daddy daughter morning we went [TS]

  out to get some dim sum as you walk by [TS]

  the guy the bird guy the guy gets the [TS]

  free chicken KFC 1030am he's in there in [TS]

  chicken and there's no because I respect [TS]

  his dignity but I just gonna let you [TS]

  know it's a real thing [TS]

  was there yesterday morning 10-30 [TS]

  getting chicken butt but interesting [TS]

  that remains and you and your young [TS]

  daughter have now made them some part of [TS]

  your 5 daddy-daughter routine that she [TS]

  could put it away I mean she's no John [TS]

  Roderick but she could put a hurtin on [TS]

  some dim sum just talking as much as i [TS]

  do just talking about it makes me sad [TS]

  but I'm not sitting at your kitchen [TS]

  table right now eating for people's [TS]

  questions about I get you off that sugar [TS]

  for people for portions up for big [TS]

  hungry man portions of dim sum and I'm [TS]

  like I'm I'm slapping people's hands as [TS]

  they are reaching you know anything is [TS]

  over so it's irresponsible because we [TS]

  went in there and at first he really he [TS]

  loves my daughter he's always asking [TS]

  about her and whenever I bring her and I [TS]

  got to do this more he like slashes the [TS]

  price in half [TS]

  oh hello so we got like 16 pieces of dim [TS]

  sum for six dollars uh-huh and then we [TS]

  ate it and then we went downtown and [TS]

  have people's literally stand in front [TS]

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  Harriet King hitter or can tell but [TS]

  Salisbury and Gloucester so i have to [TS]

  say yeah I had a little bit of a reality [TS]

  check a couple of days ago because i [TS]

  went to see Judas Priest [TS]

  in concert and you know I feel about [TS]

  Judas Priest strongly to feel strongly [TS]

  about Judas Priest I've seen it was rob [TS]

  halford st. robs the only one that's not [TS]

  in the band is KK downing that's pretty [TS]

  good [TS]

  take it down and took a pass well except [TS]

  the drummer I think you know that having [TS]

  so much fun year old kid spinal tap [TS]

  drummers over the years right although [TS]

  the original drummer's gone 20 years but [TS]

  you know you've got you've got glenn [TS]

  tipton on guitar and you've got Rob [TS]

  Halford and that that's like I don't [TS]

  they were the two stars right we've got [TS]

  a young guy plan in kk downing position [TS]

  and he's a great guitar player and a lot [TS]

  of fun to watch and I i accepted him as [TS]

  a member of judas priest but uh you know [TS]

  when I was a big fan of Judas Priest all [TS]

  the way back to my youth but I only ever [TS]

  got to see them twice and both times in [TS]

  the last five or six years if you [TS]

  movement issues [TS]

  yeah i mean the first time I saw me [TS]

  actually was walking around the stage [TS]

  with a with a cane like that a skull on [TS]

  the head or whatever but it was [TS]

  definitely was using it as a cane and [TS]

  now he's you know he moved slowly and [TS]

  after at the end of every song he [TS]

  disappears behind a curtain and maybe [TS]

  get some vitamin b12 shot and some some [TS]

  cortisone in the knees or something and [TS]

  then comes back out at the poor guy [TS]

  because the thing is I've seen videos of [TS]

  all Judas Priest when he had hair [TS]

  yeah and I mean he was in his twenties I [TS]

  mean he's he's gotta be look at us I [TS]

  mean Jesus Christ I'll be 48 this week [TS]

  he's got to be 60 right here i think [TS]

  they're I think glenn tipton a 67 [TS]

  oh my lord and i don't know how old Rob [TS]

  is but anyway it was it was speaking as [TS]

  so Rob Halford was born in 51 right so [TS]

  many 363 um even as a massive fan and [TS]

  even even allowing for the fact that it [TS]

  was it was great it was actually [TS]

  terrible because it was mechanical [TS]

  well no it was just like metal is not a [TS]

  thing that [TS]

  that you can in habitat 67 or rather [TS]

  like if you go see pink floyd right now [TS]

  and those guys are 70 right [TS]

  oh yes um I don't you been to the store [TS]

  but just Dave Gilmour is still very [TS]

  entertaining life [TS]

  well little I think the way to put that [TS]

  is that Dave Gilmour is still exactly as [TS]

  entertaining as he ever was [TS]

  which is to say that he stands there and [TS]

  stares at his shoes while he plays [TS]

  fantastically right but you never pink [TS]

  floyd never ran over and like climbed up [TS]

  on the speaker stacks and and said right [TS]

  do you wanna watch like there's not you [TS]

  know they were just like all standing [TS]

  and there was the light show that was [TS]

  doing the work so pink floyd you know [TS]

  the pink floyd completed the 95 I think [TS]

  and and it will still probably be an [TS]

  amazing live show but but metal like [TS]

  when you when your guitar part goes to [TS]

  bouncer to did bound like every one of [TS]

  those bounds you wanna have you want to [TS]

  see some movement from the guitar player [TS]

  because each one of those to chikar each [TS]

  one of those is a an ax chopped right [TS]

  you are those are the musical equivalent [TS]

  of you swinging your battle axe at a [TS]

  dwarf and I don't and I don't and I mean [TS]

  am i oh you mean like for middle-earth I [TS]

  mean a mythical not a little nervous not [TS]

  a little but like so you you are using [TS]

  your guitar in metal as a weapon it is [TS]

  an axe literally and you should be you [TS]

  should be wielding it's writing two [TS]

  together oh you did you are you're just [TS]

  chopping at these middle earth creatures [TS]

  with your accent tank and if these these [TS]

  guys are in their sixties and they've [TS]

  been playing this music for 40 years and [TS]

  you just didn't get the sense anymore [TS]

  that they that they were connecting the [TS]

  they were they were they were connecting [TS]

  the dots and II they were playing their [TS]

  music but you kind of felt like they [TS]

  were thinking about their house in Ibiza [TS]

  and how expensive it was to keep the [TS]

  swimming pool heated or whatever [TS]

  but I was watching just priest at the [TS]

  tacoma dome and the be sort of comedy [TS]

  metal band steel panther opened but look [TS]

  around there were 9,000 10,000 people [TS]

  there and not a single one of them was [TS]

  concerned with ethics in gaming German [TS]

  journalism right there was not a single [TS]

  person there who cared about really any [TS]

  of the evolution the social evolution [TS]

  that seems to be really gaining a lot of [TS]

  momentum am applying these are older [TS]

  people [TS]

  well I mean average age of the place was [TS]

  probably 40 but there were young people [TS]

  to that who had just adopted whole cloth [TS]

  see attitude and look of the eighties [TS]

  it's still a culture it's still an [TS]

  active culture right i'm drawing from [TS]

  the rural counties and it was really [TS]

  astonishing that you know like the [TS]

  unabashedly pneus of like girls getting [TS]

  up onstage and flashing the audience and [TS]

  feeling like this was the the best day [TS]

  of their life you could just see like [TS]

  i'm han stage with steel panther and [TS]

  they want me to show my boobs and this [TS]

  is my fucking moment and I was like wow [TS]

  right like this i used to be a thing and [TS]

  you know and it used to feel like the [TS]

  dominant culture although it wasn't [TS]

  right the dominant culture in pop music [TS]

  was always country-and-western we just [TS]

  didn't know it because we because it was [TS]

  we were on one side of the Berlin Wall [TS]

  and anybody felt like the dominant [TS]

  culture but now it is still it's still a [TS]

  viable culture and i was i was [TS]

  astonished by it and an astonished [TS]

  because it made me realize that I am now [TS]

  living in her i'm living in a culture [TS]

  that seems like because i'm on the [TS]

  internet because i'm a member of uh of [TS]

  of Twitter and of the of the world of [TS]

  people who are getting their list of [TS]

  concerns and their their social cues [TS]

  coming from people who engage with one [TS]

  another on the internet i have started [TS]

  to feel like that is reality and it is [TS]

  the dominant culture but in fact I it's [TS]

  just a culture it's one of 20,000 right [TS]

  simultaneous cultures and um and it was [TS]

  it was like a it would I was surprised [TS]

  at what an eye opener was I was like wow [TS]

  right no one like half the people in [TS]

  here you read that thing and i know i [TS]

  know we're over an hour and i know you [TS]

  are starting to that know you're worried [TS]

  that I'm gonna start talking about [TS]

  social justice and derail this podcast [TS]

  now that way and put this podcast into [TS]

  the into the deep 65 surely fine [TS]

  I know you're worried worried i'm sure [TS]

  it'll be fine I know you're worried that [TS]

  I'm gonna start advancing a theory out [TS]

  every maneuver but you know there was [TS]

  all that astonishment when a when Bill [TS]

  Cosby played in Florida [TS]

  I'm listening [TS]

  five days after all this stuff came out [TS]

  mhm and he was treated created to [TS]

  rapturous applause from a sold-out crowd [TS]

  right and everybody on the internet was [TS]

  like how is this even possible [TS]

  we've been talking about this business [TS]

  of the culture that I look this isn't [TS]

  the culture that I look at for 16 hours [TS]

  a day [TS]

  yeah right for 16 hours a day I have [TS]

  been agreeing with every single other [TS]

  person in the universe that bill cosby [TS]

  needs to be sent to jail and now i'm [TS]

  getting a report on buzzfeed that a [TS]

  thousand people in like a retirement [TS]

  community went to his show and applauded [TS]

  and right and said we love you Bill [TS]

  Cosby and and he made no reference to [TS]

  the controversy and no [TS]

  and stood up in the audience and uh [TS]

  Andrew soy bomb' on their chests and [TS]

  handsets stop this madness or whatever [TS]

  and and I would you know I remember [TS]

  reading the reading the the astonishment [TS]

  on the on the web and kind of sharing [TS]

  their astonishment like whoa I did not [TS]

  see that coming [TS]

  I did not see that he was going to could [TS]

  like you imagine the balls and it takes [TS]

  to go out and do that to just be like [TS]

  well you don't look at now I'm just [TS]

  gonna go out and I'm just like that will [TS]

  come up and Ellen it actually worked [TS]

  it actually one person one person had a [TS]

  sign that said rape is not a joke and [TS]

  apart from everybody else is pretty into [TS]

  it they were unequivocal that's sitting [TS]

  here like me struggling and going like [TS]

  oh my god this is so awful and I still [TS]

  can't stop thinking about how much i [TS]

  love Bill Cosby is a kid i'm still I'm [TS]

  so struggling to try and square this [TS]

  information they're fine no problem [TS]

  hey it's dr. Huxtable beautiful ones [TS]

  that work that we're trying to square [TS]

  like you [TS]

  well you know there's two sides to every [TS]

  story or what that's right it is pretty [TS]

  funny is pretty funny i bought a t-shirt [TS]

  but I don't know if I'm gonna wear to [TS]

  work [TS]

  yeah it's just like and go into this [TS]

  Judas Priest constant was the same thing [TS]

  like wow I spend i spent 16 hours a day [TS]

  living in a world where we are talking [TS]

  about Tom we are talking about gender [TS]

  politics and second and and and social [TS]

  politics as such a fait accompli or as [TS]

  such a we're like we wait and it's the [TS]

  astonishment that not everybody like it [TS]

  is even having the same argument we may [TS]

  not agree with each other everything [TS]

  about everything but we had kind of [TS]

  agree on the basic rules of the game and [TS]

  then there's a lady who deliberately [TS]

  wants to take your top off and show your [TS]

  boobs while being called steel panther [TS]

  place not all lady 25 you know who are [TS]

  just like I get to go up onstage and [TS]

  take my top off this is fucking amazing [TS]

  and and it felt a little bit like going [TS]

  to Thanksgiving dinner with your family [TS]

  and everybody wants to talk about Mitt [TS]

  Romney or something you know what I mean [TS]

  like it just right yeah [TS]

  oh whoa [TS]

  I'm there's a whole other universe [TS]

  happening except unlike me if I went to [TS]

  Thanksgiving dinner and everybody wanted [TS]

  to talk about Mitt Romney I would like [TS]

  my fellow internet people I would feel [TS]

  the smug certainty that they were like [TS]

  you know dinosaurs and fuck them and I [TS]

  just need you know i'm gonna post like [TS]

  ironic uh Instagram photos of my hold [TS]

  relatives until I can get out of here [TS]

  but to go with Judas Priest concert and [TS]

  feel like these people believe that they [TS]

  are like the hardest core I mean they're [TS]

  older but this is a hardcore this is [TS]

  like that this is the bleeding edge [TS]

  right that we are in league with Satan [TS]

  here and my kids are b12 shots [TS]

  yeah right you know yeah same you know [TS]

  Satan with a little with a little help [TS]

  same with a little nudge to get back out [TS]

  on stage and and sing the Ripper one [TS]

  more time this range shot sucks because [TS]

  range shot and there's a little bit i [TS]

  mean there's quite a bit of sound guy [TS]

  helped along the way [TS]

  yeah you can I mean you can do a lot it [TS]

  was still training your voice at that [TS]

  age to spoof it and then you just hit [TS]

  just the right amount of reverb forge a [TS]

  little bit at the right time and you can [TS]

  get away with a lot a reverb and then [TS]

  the long delay so he'll be like that you [TS]

  know how to order everyone do and you [TS]

  just didn't and then when you kill the [TS]

  you know you just yell on the long delay [TS]

  and that o-rings out but there were [TS]

  there were like five moments in the in [TS]

  the concert where he had a signature one [TS]

  of those signature piercing like and I [TS]

  really felt like I was hearing some not [TS]

  just read additional river but like some [TS]

  maybe something actually helping out or [TS]

  some tracks or something something [TS]

  somebody was pushing a button on the [TS]

  doctor sample [TS]

  adding in some pre-recorded Halford took [TS]

  to make those moments really blow [TS]

  because because there were lots of other [TS]

  moments in the songs where they decided [TS]

  that it wasn't worth doing that and rob [TS]

  was not he was not like making those [TS]

  other moments happen the same way God [TS]

  and the thing is like you know [TS]

  say what you will about the guy was like [TS]

  he's always been a hell of a showman [TS]

  I mean really almost like old old [TS]

  Hollywood old radio like he really lazy [TS]

  link up there like with your Bruce [TS]

  Dickinson's and your class minus like [TS]

  he's working the crowd [TS]

  mm-hmm he genuinely wants to know if [TS]

  you're ready to rock and roll he does [TS]

  and he believes uh he believes united [TS]

  united united we stand united we stand [TS]

  up on all my kingly the grinders looking [TS]

  for me too he believes that metal is a [TS]

  community and that it's saved you know [TS]

  like the punk rockers he believes that [TS]

  metal saving his life and well it's [TS]

  gonna be about an hour and 15 minutes [TS]

  now let me tell you figure to you about [TS]

  punk rock [TS]