Roderick on the Line

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00:00:24 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► pretty good how are you going [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► ah I'm impressed mm okay i'm impressed [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► I'm impressed because you're a man who [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► leaves the house and the vehicle you go [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► places and you do things you spend your [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► morning and your afternoon doing things [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► and then you show up early for a podcast [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► recording isn't that something I how do [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► you do it [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► not only that but there was a truck fire [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► on the interstate [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► mmm there are a lot of trucks on the [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► interstate at two o'clock in the [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► afternoon that seems to be high truck [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► hour but there was a dump truck bed [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► rolled over and spilled diesel fuel all [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► over the interstate and burned itself [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► I mean burned itself kind of completely [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► up ok presented a scenario where that [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► would have never happened [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► yeah if it had been on a train thank you [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► thank you [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► although trains do sometimes crash and [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► burn yeah but they crashed scale you get [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► all that's right that's right it's like [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► dying on Christmas at all you get jammed [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► all into one thing [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► yeah well and usually when a train [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► crashes it also has some tanks of like [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► you know liquids sulfuric acid or [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► something they have to evacuate an [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► entire town of bread and circuses that's [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► what I see you give them a spectacle i [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► was I went downtown today and park in a [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► parking garage that right at noon to [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► three things I never do [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► and although I guess at noon isn't a [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► thing but I went downtown at noon that's [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► the thing i did try never to do and I [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► parked in a parking garage the two [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► things I never do [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► and by the time I reach the seventh [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► floor of the parking garage and had not [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► found an empty spot I realized something [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► i guess it never and never fully [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► occurred to me like the dirty secret of [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► cities that they are hiding all of these [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► cars in these like car hives and in the [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► more this is the reason that in the [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► morning in the afternoon there are these [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► tens of thousands of cars that are [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► normally on the roads but like everybody [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► drives into town and they pack into [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► these hives i'm jon was just driving [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► through this parking garage [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► and I was I was realizing like oh wow [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► this is really the problem this is [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► astonishing that we think this is a good [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► system its each one of these cars [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► represents like one person making it [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► from their house to their place to their [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► job every one of these people is [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► probably paying thirty dollars a day to [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► park here and it's just like this [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► extraordinary ways to resources and [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► people's time and energy and all this [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► like space they had to build the hold [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► all these cars and just every aspect of [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► it is a is a colossal hilarious waste [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► and you know because it's behind kind of [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► a wall of you know like a it's just [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► packed in there in such a way that I not [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► just me but we all walk through the city [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► just kinda blissfully unaware that we [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► are everyday linkle loading these silos [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► up and I mean I guess if you work [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► downtown you're not unaware this is the [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► rest of the world you live in but right [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► but it is looking at they live situation [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► where like you just stop for a second [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► and you look at you go this is crazy and [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► it's always on the edge you notice that [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► when a truck goes up right but like that [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► does anybody ever get to work like half [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► an hour early and get the first space [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► and go i feel refreshed [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► haha well and it's so it's so ad hoc [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► that's the amazing thing you know it's [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► like why is this the system [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► well because every time there was a [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► problem somebody fixed the immediate [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► problem by building a new on-ramp by [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► building a new building a new parking [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► garage like at each step of the way we [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► solved the most immediate problem like [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► how I have to go to work downtown but my [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► wife has to go to work four blocks from [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► well we gotta get two cars right you [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► know like they saw everybody is solving [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► the problem right in front of themselves [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► and there is no there's no collective [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► problem-solving there's no collective [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► thinking in in the system really at all [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► you've really got me thinking about that [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► a lot in [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► it's probably dangerous in the last few [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► weeks talking about you know the systems [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► in the grades and I i totally agree with [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► you and because you know again say I say [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► it's like they live because they all you [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► really need you put on the glasses and [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► suddenly you can see you know what's [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► really going on and you but you're right [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► i mean most of what's happening if you [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► really really turbo way up a lot of our [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► jobs are probably useless but even if [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► they aren't using let's say they are [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► useless against probably do it mostly [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► from your house wanted absolutely what I [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► wouldn't have most people's jobs are [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► like move this file into that file type [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► thing it's all typing right they say [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► we're all just typing different things [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► and I mean you when you think about that [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► i mean this was the promise this was the [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► promise of industrialization this was [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► the promise of of technology was that we [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► would be freed from all this meaningless [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► labor right if you if you go back a [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► hundred years and you and you imagine [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► what they thought technology was going [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► to provide it was always the technology [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► would provide leisure we were going to [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► be living in a in an environmental like [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► decoteau Pia right where where what we [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► would have to work one or two hours a [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► day and the rest of the time we would be [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► like in pedal-powered dirigibles like [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► flying around the park to learning [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► languages and writing classical music [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► most yeah yeah [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► thank you it would be it would be like [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► uh it would be like the it would be like [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► Spain under the Moors Pax Romana [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► everybody would everybody would speak [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► six different languages that you know [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► the Jews would be getting along with the [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► Zoroastrians it was like a perfect [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► system [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► yeah and instead what what we have done [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► again just because of this ad hoc [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► individualism is we've with all the [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► technology all we have done is create [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► more and more anxiety and more and more [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► work but uh huh but like busywork busy [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► work busy with sing it sister and then [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► you gotta send him you gotta send an [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► email about how you can't drive to [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► someplace on time [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► oh my god I'm driving I'm driving with [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► one hand i'm texting with another guy [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► gotta post to facebook video of burning [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► truck right so then I'm the problem [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► you're not an animal [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► where's my parade i hear ya [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► so yeah it's just insane I'm not a [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► historian but there's an analogy people [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► use for lots of different things [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► especially things like old computer code [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► they refer to it as being like the city [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► of Rome where there's never gonna be [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► like a great day to just start over you [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► know really Manhattan's like this in a [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► lot of ways just keep building you have [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► some system that barely barely works at [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► doing something we needed 50 years ago [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► for a hundred years ago and you update [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► that a little bit and then you put some [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► patches on it and you hack on the little [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► bit and you add a new lane but it's [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► still the same completely screwed up [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► system and there's never a good day to [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► just start over and install pneumatic [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► tubes which is what we really need [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► well we talked about this i think a long [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► time ago in 1999 when my mom started [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► getting all these phone calls from from [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► companies who were like listen we're [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► still running the software that you [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► wrote in 1968 and nobody knows how to [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► nobody knows how to fix it right and [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► we'll pay you any amount of money to [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► come back and just let us then figure [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► out how to insert a 444 numeral date [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► code because all of the banks are going [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► to stop working and my mom was like [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► there is no amount of money that would [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► entice me back in like know and and it [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► turned out like it it didn't all come to [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► a screeching halt [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► but but the awareness i had at them at [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► that time that so much of American [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► industry was still running on patched-up [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► forty-year-old fortran code was I mean [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► cobol or whatever machining and that's [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► and that's why I think with the the way [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► that you least historically have heard [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► that city of room metaphor applied most [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► often to no surprise here the air [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► traffic control systems Jesus which you [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► know what I mean you know I see this at [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► my bank where when i go into my bank if [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► I need to get like a cashier's check or [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► something it looks like a boss that [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► they're using on [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► well I know what I would I worry about [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► or what not what I guess it's not a [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► worry but I look at that and then I [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► think okay how is this a metaphor for my [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► personal life [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► like they're mi I'm ad hoc solving [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► problems in my own life at every turn [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► and if i look at my whole if i look at [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► the way I live and my goals and my [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► dreams like what if I stripped away all [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► the all of the infrastructure i think [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► i've built and really imagine like what [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► do I want to do what would I do with my [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► day if I had no if I had no operatory a [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► premise about how a day had to look even [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► so Part B saying kind of like you know [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► there's all the stuff we have to do this [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► just kind of the overhead of doing [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► grown-up stuff which you could certainly [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► use called busy work stuff that feels [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► like kind of a waste of time [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► like if you could remove all of that [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► friction would you be able to make your [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► own personal Pax Romana would you be [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► able to like become a great man and this [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► and this I feel is like is is maybe the [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► the lie of modernity the idea that we [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► are all philosopher Kings the more [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► leisure time people have the more it is [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► revealed that we do not have boundless [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► imaginations we do not know what to do [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► with leisure because we are beasts of [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► burden by construction we are meant to [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► we are meant to live nasty brutish and [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► short lives because we are well we are [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► big monkey's said before like all the [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► leisure in the world produces a reality [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► television or it produces a culture of [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► gaming that at the surface of it like [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► you know I hate to ever go on the record [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► in any way criticizing gaming mm because [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► my god you get I mean you know I i got [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► some angry letters about a podcast we [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► did a couple of weeks ago where I said I [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► don't even remember what I said but I [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► said one charitable thing about China [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► and it inflamed been innocent and a joke [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► what's that people get mad when you say [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► even one nice thing about China [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► well I think I think China there are [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► some people out there for whom china is [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► a trigger word that day whatever siloed [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► they're living in like like chinese that [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► they're convinced that china is like the [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► the inheritor of every sort of fascist [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► trope and so you can't say a nice thing [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► about China because China yeah [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► chemtrails but it but boy if you start [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► to talk about game [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► yeah and say I say a bad thing about [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► gaming you get all this money because [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► the gamers have spent 40 years defending [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► themselves against the PMRC or the for [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► their moms and dads or whatever [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► everybody going to another kind of civil [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► rights almost yeah everybody had a [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► hard-on for gaming for so long that the [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► gamers are like really have their [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► hackles up but also have their like 25 [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► lines of defense about how ballad and [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► valuable gaming is but in fact it is [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► games it is adult games it is like it is [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► like playing twister really like it and [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► I don't know and maybe it is an entire [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► world in a virtual world and a fantastic [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► environment to play in but it's the [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► holodeck and that's what we're doing [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► with our with with are acquired leisure [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► like that is that is the benefit that is [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► that's how we're spending our savings [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► that we have that we are like mining the [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► mining the earth like stripping it bear [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► and filling the skies full of smoke in [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► order that we not have to like do [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► admittedly the like difficult work of [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► farming for ourselves [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► yeah like pulling a ho or whatever and [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► and so we don't have to pull a hoe [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► anymore and we have the leisure now to [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► like put our headphones on and stare at [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► a at like a virtual space and and and [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► hop around it with our virtual little [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► man [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► no you're on your own on this one our [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► little man fills your little man goes [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► there but it's a little shooting fish in [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► a barrel i will say also that you know [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► you're just you're just mad but [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► somebody's gonna send you a really [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► really long essay John is the official [TS]

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00:14:08 ◼   ► to us listen guys I'm not the sharpest [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► tool in the shed this morning I almost [TS]

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00:14:13 ◼   ► half-and-half and I later tried to buy a [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► cup of coffee with my muni card i'm not [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► a gifted man but even i can use [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► Squarespace because they make this whole [TS]

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00:14:23 ◼   ► drag-and-drop interface with beautiful [TS]

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00:14:29 ◼   ► they look great on every device ever get [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► stuck [TS]

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00:14:34 ◼   ► seven support through dedicated teams in [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► New York and Dublin here's the crazy [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► part [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► Squarespace plans started eight dollars [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► a month and that includes a free domain [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► name if you sign up for a year which i [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► highly recommend every plan comes with [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► the ability to create your own online [TS]

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00:14:54 ◼   ► photographer or just a fan of [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► half-and-half please do check out [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► Squarespace and tell them you heard [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► about it from Roderick on the line in [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► fact you'll get a free trial plus ten [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► percent off anything you buy by using [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► the special offer code supertrain at [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► checkout our thanks to squarespace for [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► supporting Roderick online we could not [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► do it without this but you know but I [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► mean we talked about the social meeting [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► joked about having to take a video of a [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► fire i do think there is i was talking [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► to some of the day about about facebook [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► and i always feel like I'm a little bit [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► in danger of trying of sounding like a [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► nut [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► not because I don't do facebook because [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► i have to remind people I actually do [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► have to remind people that i am one of [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► the hill people I'm not no I'm not on [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► Facebook and I I don't have that strong [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► opinion about it because it's just [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► something I don't do I mean I had a [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► stronger opinion about it when I felt [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► the pressure to have to do stuff with [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► facebook but now that i am one of the [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► hill people [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► the pressure is not there but i think [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► all [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► that stuff it does create a kind of real [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► anxiety that it's almost like if you [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► said your dog like you need to relax you [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► should start larping and they would go [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► like now I'd really just really got me [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► nervous about who's the leader out on [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► the streets right now because that's [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► more in my nature but that same kind of [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► picmonkey drive that would lead a dog [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► not to go out and play the Indian the [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► woods you know today I think that you [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► can find anxiety or social pressure and [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► almost anything nowadays and this is to [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► me what makes the work of rowdy roddy [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► piper so poignant even today [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► mmm i really do it's a hell of a movie I [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► did is a great movie and you know Robin [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► Goldwater's father played a starring [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► role dimensional why don't you you're [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► not hip to this she tell me this is he [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► the gang fights has a 10-minute fight [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► scene with him wasn't him [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► okay Goldie status is a is the is the [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► guy he's like the he's brought Roddy [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► Piper's guide guide through to the to [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► the new is Morpheus way of seeing ya its [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► is Morpheus will cover this a little [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► what we cut all this out we'll cover [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► this on her side i love doctor about [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► that but I feel like anxiety is the it's [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► the glue that holds us all together now [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► you know anxiety is the is the is the [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► thing that Don Draper figured out sold [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► us toothpaste anxiety is the thing that [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► the that the military-industrial complex [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► figured out kept us pouring money into [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► you know into their black projects [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► anxiety is the thing that keeps us [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► getting married to one another it get it [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► is the it's the glue that holds us [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► together as a society and again because [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► every one of those things was everything [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► one of those things was that was a [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► solution to a problem that was right in [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► front of us and there was you know I not [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► mean the conspiracists want us to think [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► that there's somebody or somebodies who [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► have a big plan [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► who but to whatever degree there is a [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► system it is a patchwork quilt of of [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► small individuated like rubber [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► patches on where the tire kept blowing [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► out right and it's just like okay so now [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► we're living in this world and and the [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► the the degree to which things work in [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► concert with one another is largely [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► either happenstance or it's just this [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► thing was right next to that thing so we [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► made the gears the same ratio but the [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► two things the two things work you know [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► but do they like we get five things [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► working together and we think that we [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► are really building something but does [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► that little ball fit into this you know [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► the the giant ball pit of other little [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► fiefdoms like none of it does really I i [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► think i think you're right in a when you [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► think I hate to put on my future's hat [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► but you know one of the things that [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► makes it makes it so damn difficult to [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► try to figure out what's going to happen [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► in the future because we have so much of [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► what we know is based on the past and [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► trying to fix like I say trying to fix a [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► fifty-year-old problem with something [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► innovative that you know get that thing [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► fixed like I remember when I first heard [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► the John Lennon had a record player in [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► his rolls-royce it seemed like the [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► coolest thing in the world but in [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► retrospect it seems very very strange [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► you know certainly luxurious but but [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► there's there's one thing of all that [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► you think think back to all of the [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► novels and films as just of all the [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► popular media about what computers were [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► going to mean to people i mean and his [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► recent if you like last night's mad men [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► but you know people have for many many [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► years wondered and worried about what [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► parts of our lives [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► computers are going to replace and we [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► obviously in science fiction things like [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► what happens when they become too [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► intelligent and and so forth [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► the one part of that it's still really [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► resonates with me though is that as more [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► things get automated it does start to [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► feel a little bit like a Woody Allen [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► movie from the seventies or something [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► like if I i had to change i had had a [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► charge on my mobile phone bill that was [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► only removable by calling them so [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► there's some kinds of things you can add [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► on the website [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► I i recently we know we did we haven't [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► had our actual cable TV box for example [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► connected to the modem for my [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► it's and I've been paying for this and [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► finally I'm not only combination why [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► don't I just call them into this so but [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► but in cases of my phone company i had [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► to call them and like sit through a [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► pitch for getting home internet and why [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► wouldn't I want this service but and in [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► the case of like for example with with [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► my cable company i gotta return the [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► modem I got to have a big discussion [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► with them about this and why I'm not [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► enjoying television and things like that [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► and in that case in both of those cases [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► i got good people to talk to [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► but the one thing that still carries [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► over from that fear of depersonalization [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► dehumanization the computers in AI we're [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► gonna bring is the sense that i don't [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► really there's not really an effective [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► place to turn for almost anything sort [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► of to your thing about like if you find [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► the person with the juice that can help [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► you out but I had a hundred-dollar [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► charge every month on my phone bill and [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► I have to call and like persuade them [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► that this was something I didn't want to [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► have any more even though i have been [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► out of the country in like a year and [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► and in both of those cases will [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► why didn't I call them when I just call [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► comcast the first time it occurred to me [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► that I wasn't watching TV and I was [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► spending twenty dollars a month editing [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► or whatever it was [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► why don't I call it a hundred dollars [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► month that's asinine because I know I'm [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► already dreading that's the anxiety [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► there is a thread of having to call and [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► sit and find out how many minutes it is [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► until the call will be important to them [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► and and so on and so forth and I think [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► that's still very real [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► there's still a lot of self editing [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► self-censorship along the lines of if [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► you like big brother or like that camera [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► doesn't even need to be on all the time [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► i will create all the anxiety needed by [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► my fear of having to interact with that [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► system having to call about something [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► broken that like I don't even know if [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► that sense now i'm in Brazil and worried [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► that Bob Hoskins is going to come in [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► there and make it worse right [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► yeah they create as they create a mental [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► landscape where you pick up the phone [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► you are gonna then enter into like of a [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► enter into a virtual world to bring you [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► care brand experience environment [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► yeah right or you cannot see the horizon [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► and you're walking and you hear your [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► voice echoing and you're like hello it's [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► a lot like Las Vegas is like a casino [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► without drinks loc in this room with no [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► windows and clocks that you can't get [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► out of your right and you get your [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► hearing ticking but there's also like so [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► there's some distant music playing [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► you're navigating around its kind of [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► foggy in there you're navigating around [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► all these little minor obstacles [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► and you don't there's no exit door or [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► you see an exit door but it just it [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► turns into it's just it disappears in [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► the fog and I don't think that was I [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► don't think there was any brain trust [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► that envisioned that as a solution to [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► their customer service issues I think [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► they just happened upon it like wow look [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► at this [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► we only have five operators and there [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► are 50 people waiting to be helped and [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► like 45 of them will just sit there [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► forever [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► so what wow that's what is that it is [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► like a video game what you're describing [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► is like a video game though in that [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► sense that like I'm not that good at [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► video games and I know I'm not and I [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► know that when I get into that system [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► there's a chance that i will hit the [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► wrong button and i will end up somewhere [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► where I can't get out and the call will [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► disconnect and i'll have to start over [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► and over the dial and we're all that and [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► i might be alone i might be the only [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► lunatic in the world that sits around [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► and fear of having to make that call but [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► I am fear of that call and I hate [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► getting to the point where i can hit two [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► or do nothing [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► yeah oh my god well and I'm sure as I'm [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► sitting here thinking I'm I'm realizing [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► like this is what was so brilliant about [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► the set design of Blade Runner and Star [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► Wars both because both of those if you [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► think about the Millennium Falcon and [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► the way the Millennium Falcon is [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► designed it is it's built in such a way [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► that you see you see that it has evolved [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► from earlier ships to solve problems [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► like the Millennium Falcon is not an [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► elegant design it is a design it's an [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► ad-hoc design and over time you can kind [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► of imagine the evolution of us of a of a [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► freighter of a spaceship and this is [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► what they came up with like the Death [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► Star is basically just a speck if when [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► you get in close to it it's a thousand [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► little condos [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► you know it's like a thousand little [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► town houses and condos and bullshit [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► little towers at least it basically [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► looks like daly city in space [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► yeah because every single different like [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► minor administrator in the imperial [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► system needed his own you know had his [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► own requirements for what [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► stand you know what the building [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► standard of his little quadrant was and [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► so the death star at a distance looks [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► like a globe but when you get in close [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► its justthis pimply little ball and the [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► same is true of blade runner you get the [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► feeling that like those floating police [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► cars or whatever card are just it's just [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► what happened when you were married to [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► the idea of what a car looked like but [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► then you put but then you had like sort [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► of minor hover craft technology and [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► rather than build a new a completely new [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► thing you just built a kind of car [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► looking thing that also could hover and [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► that so those those set designs were so [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► convincing and so much like they still [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► resonate with this because it's like [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► yeah that is kind of how it would go [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► isn't it it's it's not like we're ever [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► really going to build something new [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► we're just going to keep building like [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► why does the Tesla look like a lotus [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► well because it is a lotus and the new [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► Tesla is like a fat lotus and the next [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► one will be you know will be just a like [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► something globbed onto the last thing [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► and why the human imagination [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► I mean it's not that our imaginations [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► are constrained it's that you walk into [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► the room and you're like I've got it and [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► the first five people you talk to her [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► like well but a bill that would be a [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► real investment should we just you know [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► what what what if we just took the old [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► trains and we painted them gray and we [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► called it [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► amtrak what about that mean that's that [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► be a lot cheaper than that doing the [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► thing that you're talking about like [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► redesigning redesigning the system like [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► let's just let's just keep the old thing [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► and I i watch later again last week [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► why wouldn't you it's just extraordinary [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► if anybody is listening to this podcast [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► and hasn't watched blade runner in the [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► last month and a half i don't know what [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► the hell you're talking to it ends up [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► being it's one of those you know one of [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► those movies that ends up being [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► in my snap to grid movie like it's just [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► what i end up watching sometimes and I I [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► mean I've seen it a bunch of times but [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► there's little details like when deckard [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► call Sean Young from the bar on the [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► video phone and it's got it really is [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► going on [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► it's good for fiji on it it's like it [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► looks like that's exactly what that [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► would look like you know what i mean and [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► then of course it's really expensive [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► like a doll or something for the call [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► but you know they were they were so far [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► ahead of their time and you know that's [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► what makes like you say that's what [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► makes so much of that stuff from so i [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► guess for most of the star wars on is [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► that there's a built-in brokenness you [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► know to all of it you know all the way [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► down to the death star having this you [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► know vulnerability let me ask you this [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► pivot so so the whole movie starts out [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► with the nexuses they've gotten too [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► smart and they're killers and now we [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► can't have them on the planet anymore [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► the Tyrell still making nexuses we got a [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► lot of work to do out in space is on the [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► offworld yeah we're colonizing all these [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► other like little law places where were [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► out by the 10 house or gate [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► yeah you know we got a lot of work to do [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► out there and that and that's the thing [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► like and and what what astonishes me [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► honestly is that we still have not [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► normalized the concept of a robot [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► handjob machine like how far how much [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► further do we have to progress is I'm [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► hole in the market my for goodness robot [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► handjob machine is just a normal thing [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► that you buy at the sears because that [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► should be like a toaster oven it should [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► be the kind of thing were forty dollars [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► you can get a pretty serviceable robot [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► handjob machine all across America and [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► I'm not saying I'm not saying the other [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► countries of the world because I know [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► techno technologically a lot of them are [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► have a lot of catching up to do [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► they are still burning peat to heat [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► their homes but in America and France [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► and Germany right and England people [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► think about the wasted effort [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► the wasted he-man pet man-hours going [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► into person hours person sorry person [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► hours going into either administering [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► hand jobs to other people [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► or all the self handjob and yeah you [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► know the nice thing about your job hand [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► job is something that is often given [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► with and received with glee and delight [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► it's like a sweet surprise that comes up [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► and it's a nice thing but you shouldn't [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► have to depend on it from his rifle it's [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► like it's like it's like a big day like [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► it be it would be nice to you know nice [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► I guess what I'm saying is like I don't [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► want to still be able to do what i do in [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► the bathroom without there being of a [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► day there in that case I you should you [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► should have a robot that could stand in [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► your shield people right now [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► yeah all up around the world are making [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► very questionable decisions in order to [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► try and secure for themselves or their [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► loved ones a handjob and those decisions [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► could be slightly busy work a lot of [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► busy what's right completely ameliorated [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► by what would I mean I think part of the [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► problem is we always imagine that with [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► the technology we're striving for is a [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► perfect robot sex partner that does not [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► have an uncanny valley [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► yeah so to speak but in fact pretty [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► ambitious John you know think about the [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► technology that's good that I mean we're [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► gonna have to be a lot of cylinders [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► firing together we are in sync to build [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► a a perfect sex partner robot but a [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► handjob [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► I mean in and you know I madam butterfly [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► is already available who that you can [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► wear under your garment for my job for [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► where's the fucking matter butterfly and [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► I'm not talking about a flashlight [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► no it's like literally undignified about [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► it's like if I'd come on here and what [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► I'm gonna tell about some guy in a white [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► van like parked in front of Rick's with [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► flashlights going like I wanted to be [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► normalized so that it's like a vacuum [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► cleaner it's like a it's a household [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► appliance on Christmas morning [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► like what do you get dad for christmas i [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► thi know i could see mom pop in for a [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► pretty nice robust get him a whirlpool [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► thing at a time that opens up for her [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► what and you know and and it when you're [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► really thinking systemically [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► has anyone really thought about the [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► multi uses of like a spooge like like [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► like let's say I'm gonna guess now I [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► yeah I'm sure somebody's thought about [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► it but let's say like I is it up [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► I mean is it a good plant food nobody's [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► nobody's tested it right i mean we know [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► that plants love electrolytes that's we [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► plan to eat picture about what I think [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► about the in the nutrients in in injins [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► Yeah right right now it's all it's all [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► just being swept away in shame [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► it's going down the toilet so they are [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► putting are putting are putting our [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► Lantern under a bushel basket [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► thank you that's right and and we are [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► asking our our sewage treatment plants [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► to process what is probably like 80 [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► gallons of juice today and we don't even [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► recognize that's what it is because it's [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► just in there with all the Putin's done [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► but that is just like potentially high [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► protein nutrient we could be think it [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► would be feeding we could be feeding our [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► our ferrets with it [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► think about what a fair would do if you [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► put a little bullet jizz in front of [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► would gobble it down so what I'm saying [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► is we need to start to think [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► systemically yeah i like i like the [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► scope of the of the robot handjob [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► machine and I'm i guess i just think [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► about handjob machine and jewelry [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► processor just like this like baby steps [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► John but yeah you're right so there will [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► be some kind of I you know what God um [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► that's a really compelling idea but you [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► know here's the other thing though is [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► you think about most the sex stuff is [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► obviously designed with like pervy porno [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► guys in mind and but like what is the [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► robot handjob machine for a gentleman [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► who's not ashamed to have one let me ask [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► you this how many people like lock their [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► bonding up at night right [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► they're not ashamed got it on the [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► goddamn coffee table that's right it's [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► like to welcome to my home and there's [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► my bong it's part of my accoutrements [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► and it's certainly it's a little bit [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► outside of the norm as it currently [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► exists but that's changing everyday [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► writing the board's much much more [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► acceptable now [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► to have a tab along and much more [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► acceptable for people to talk about to [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► talk in fact ad nauseam about their [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► sexual proclivities seems those sexual [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► proclivities are if they identify those [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► proclivities as part of their identity [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► right as part of their political [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► identity but what is somewhat is shared [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► more than masturbation it is the thing [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► that unites us as a people that anxiety [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► and masturbation anxiety and and my god [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► think about the masturbation anxiety [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► think about what a engine of progress or [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► like dubious engine of progress [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► masturbation anxiety is you've got me [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► thinking in you talking about the grids [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► in the system's I wonder if the [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► theoretical handjob economy has a lot to [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► do with why things are the way they are [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► why there is so much busy work because [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► you think about like for example like [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► let's just say nothing against bars [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► nothing against alcohol it's not like I [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► bet you the alcohol industry would not [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► be super into the idea of wide-scale [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► adoption of a robot handjob machine [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► because right they're going to [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► somebody's going to be buying desert you [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► never know what's in the future [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► why would you even go to a bar if you [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► didn't have to [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► and the only reason you go to a bar is [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► maybe you're going to get or give a hand [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► job at some point right [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► you're gonna get a little drunk it's not [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► it's not just seemed like a good idea [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► yeah but you know there's layers and [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► layers to all this John too many layers [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► H Christ weather and so what we would [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► have to do those courses you have to [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► have some kind of you wouldn't want to [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► give one want to get into a situation [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► where people could have satisfying [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► handjobs anytime they wanted because how [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► much of our culture is only how much how [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► much are we trying to solve the climate [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► change problem that we have created [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► only because of the promise of a certain [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► number of hand jobs as a result of the [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► work we're doing right like if that ends [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► up being one of our prime motivator it [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► drives the economy and we just end up [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► and we put you know we we solve that [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► problem we get we will short-circuit the [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► the motor of progress we've already [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► we've created a problem we've created it [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► the proper we've created let's say that [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► the pollution economy and now if we just [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► give ourselves all the hand jobs we want [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► to solve it [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► we're just gonna we're gonna choke on [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► our own smog sitting and talk on our own [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► feet to our favorite and we have a lot [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► while our ferrets girls go girl larger [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► and stronger on a steady diet of pure [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► judges we need to we need to figure out [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► a way to to portion out the hand jobs [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► and then it becomes a question of who's [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► in charge who's in charge of who gets [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► access to a handjob machine ok jobs the [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► jobbers see this [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► so you're saying you should be like you [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► wouldn't want to be like like an aspirin [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► it shouldn't be like a handjob pill it [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► shouldn't be that easy is that what [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► you're saying [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► maybe maybe it would be like a little [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► like one of those breathalyzers that you [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► have to use to start your car make sure [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► you breathe through the right end right [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► you be you breathe into the tube you [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► breathe into the tube and some of that [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► hot breath is collected for to add to [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► someone else's and job you're the real [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► future is John what I mean you're not [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► why we're not afraid to go big picture [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► why waste the hot breath I see the theme [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► i see a theme here though that you you [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► it seems like it's I don't think of you [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► as foremost as an environmentalist but [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► you're really looking at the at the at [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► the at the biome you're looking at the [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► big picture of where all this stuff goes [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► right is like it's kind of a big part of [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► it you seems to me like you're saying [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► you're throwing pennies down our toilet [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► all day long we should be putting these [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► into some kind of a sperm bank [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► it's absolutely right it seems to me [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► crazy and i think that i think the more [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► conventional way of looking at this as [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► you drive through the town [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► you look up especially six o'clock at [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► night in the wintertime you look up [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► through the through the big playground [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► glass windows at the hundreds and [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► hundreds of people on exercise bikes all [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► with headphones on all just plowing away [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► just burning energy and and you know [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► we-we-we-we bioengineered the corn that [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► went into their high fructose corn syrup [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► lunches and now here they are on their [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► bikes like like schoolgirls windows are [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► electric razor electric machines they're [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► drawing electricity between order to [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► have people generate electricity that [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► goes nowhere and and the idea that we [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► have not already i mean we identified [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► this problem a long time ago but we have [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► not actually just gone in as a as a [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► human race [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► no innovator has come along and said [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► look every exercise bike from here on [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► out has to have to add energy to the [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► grid rather than take it like it's just [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► a no-brainer [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► why are we not putting all these [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► exercise machines why are we not [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► developing passive resistance as a [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► technology used in exercise and every [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► single gym in the country should be [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► producing admittedly a small amount of [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► energy but still energy like the the [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► food that we are giving to these these [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► human agents these like automatons these [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► human beings that we have paid to sit in [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► front of a computer all day and now its [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► ass in front of a computer and move [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► virtual paper around now they in order [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► to even feel alive and feel like human [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► beings they need to pretend they're [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► pulling a plow [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► oh yeah when we pay them to sit very [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► still [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► yeah now why are we not trying to [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► harvest that energy why not just go the [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► wine I just get go the whole hog and [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► just recognize that we are at that human [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► it that it is essentially a kind of [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► matrix where human beings are an [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► extremely inefficient way of of [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► converting corn energy into electricity [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► into fake paper and additional but I [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► mean like you could just burn corn and [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► probably harvest more energy then you're [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► the venue that you're going to get from [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► feeding corn too [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► kiss my somebody making of flappy bird [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► naka that and then having them sit in an [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► air on chair all day and then at the end [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► of the day telling them to climb virtual [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► stairs while a little video screen tell [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► you know while they're watching like fox [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► news right why should we not in that in [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► that entire process also have a tube [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► connected to their penis where we are [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► harvesting their kids wear like [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► collecting their sweat and where were [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► feeding that 22 some other like helpful [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► rodents [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► uh-huh we have I mean why are we not [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► working as why is this not a symbiosis [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► yeah there's no there's a lot of corn [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► being raised for dicey reasons for sure [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► jesus H Christ there is just too much [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► goddamn corn and you know and the other [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► thing is I'm thinking now about like [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► when I remember the first time I gotta [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► watch that winds itself as you walk [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► around now you can watch yourself [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► I don't drive one of those shifter [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► watches no now I've got an automatic i [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► watch Ryan's wines itself or like add [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► like the way a previous works isn't part [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► of a Prius I think when you hit the [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► brakes it like adds energy to the [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► battery [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► yea rather than just rather than convert [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► the ejaculate in all of that wonderful [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► energy all over the rather than [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► converted into heat which you then have [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► to dissipate it is trying to convert it [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► into energy through a generator it [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► sounds like there are i mean once the [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► vision is in place it seems like it's [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► mostly about there's several different [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► sort of arms if you like of the [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► technology that have to go into place [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► you're obviously yes we need people [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► working on a rapidly improving robot [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► handjob machine but also we really do [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► need to look into what's being thrown [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► away what could be made for what could [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► be replaced with it [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► that's right i think about think about [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► think about a train right if you if you [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► think about force time force equals mass [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► times acceleration right so if a if a if [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► a if a feather its you at 50 miles an [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► hour [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► it doesn't hurt but a train it's you at [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► 50 miles an hour boy it does and that's [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► like one of the basic understandings [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► that we have right as as people [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► but we are not where we're not seeing [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► the other side of that equation if you [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► think about what it takes to stop up a [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► fully loaded freight train the amount of [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► energy it took to get that train going [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► and then we have to burn off that energy [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► to stop that train and there is no [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► locomotive in America no train in [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► America that has just an extra car in a [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► hundred car train an extra car whose job [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► it is to collect that energy as we're [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► breaking the train which we have to do [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► every freaking day we have to break [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► these trains we have to you know they're [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► coming down out of the mountains and [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► it's an it's one of the primary problem [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► it's one of the prop primary problems [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► that train people have to solve this [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► train is going to come down this [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► mountain and it has so much mass behind [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► it to keep this train from just breaking [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► loose and becoming a wild train and [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► crashing into the city like it's one of [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► the big technologies of like being [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► trained people right we have to keep the [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► train from going out of control but but [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► nobody is saying why are we not [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► harvesting that energy there's all this [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► energy we're just burning off and it [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► would be it would [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► I'm no engineer i am a computer science [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► professor but I'm no engineer but it [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► would not be that big of a leap to [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► design the next-gen of trains where as [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► they break they are stop there [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► they're converting that energy into [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► electricity [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► and you know yeah and then what do you [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► do with that what do you do with that [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► electricity [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► well I need to plan for getting a [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► handjob machines and that you know and [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► that will end up being the whole end up [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► being a increment of of like our uh of [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► economic thinking like this local our [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► brand new locomotive conserves enough [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► energy to power 200,000 handjob machines [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► used to think about in terms of movies [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► every time like a train my like post [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► college years every time I think about [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► spending money on something I guess who [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► forty dollars that's like four movies [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► right sector comes to color the coin of [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► the realm it's like five thousand [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► dollars is one homeowner monetary unit [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► and HMU i like to call it when i moved [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► into my house i was like i need to [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► replace the roof on the barn and [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► somebody said all that will cost about [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► five thousand dollars and then I said [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► boy I need to fix the you know I need to [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► fix the furnace know that will cost five [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► thousand dollars and after I'd lived [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► here about a year I realized everything [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► costs five thousand dollars that's [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► insane [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► and so what what you end up doing is you [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► end up you end up looking at at home [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► improvement projects like how many hm [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► you'se is it going to be if we remodel [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► the guest room that's for hm you'se if [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► if you want to redo a kitchen you're [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► looking at five to six hm you'se if you [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► want to just like put a new roof on the [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► house probably 12 to hm you'se really [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► yeah and extraordinary hm you'se are [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► just a thing that you have to give to [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► get the factor into owning a home you [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► can't you can buy your house and you can [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► live in it for five to ten years and [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► then shits gonna start breaking and when [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► it does you're going to you're going to [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► learn that the man with the clipboard [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► comes to the house and he's gonna you [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► know you might you might get your [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► gutters replaced for half of an HMU [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► point five hm you'se food but you know [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► forget about forget about anybody coming [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► to look at your pipes or your your basic [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► like infrastructure of the house for [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► less than [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► listen about point 521 HMU give a [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► thought on high-density housing do I i [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► ask because I I learned some not tragic [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► news but bummer news last week and I [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► don't need to ask you this year we've in [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► the flax write a couple times em they [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► gotta move on oh yeah 23,000 like 23,000 [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► square foot square feet of art supplies [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► and incredibly helpful people they gotta [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► move because they're going to put some [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► condos in there and the thing is the [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► city really really really needs [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► well yes yes that's one of those [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► locations where when you realize that [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► like that prime space is being taken up [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► with little wood human models let's get [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► in there canonical item is a little [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► under sign outside kept the sketcher [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► dolls or whatever those things are [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► called we're going to go for precisely [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► the pen that I want you know that's the [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► thing now you're going to have to you're [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► going to have to get in the car and go [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► out to go up to sausalito yeah well I [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► mean this is the this is the thing that [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► that we've seen here in king county in [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► seattle if you don't want all the [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► surrounding farms to be turned into [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► tract housing you have to submit to the [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► fact that they're going to redevelop [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► your city in such a way where they tear [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► down nice old churches and they tear [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► down what they consider what the [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► conventional wisdom right now considers [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► to be inefficient old Victorian how [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► housing or one-story a retail and they [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► put in I I vhi college I ovh inefficient [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► old Victorian houses i will be a job [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► there they turn that shit down each [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► one's about 20,000 hmm its they [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► construct these new buildings which are [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► quote unquote green and about half of [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► the half of the construction material is [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► actually blown in in a hose right they [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► like build some they build some [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► galvanized tin superstructure [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► to hold their blown in like newspaper as [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► they as they tear out hundred and fifty [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► year old Slavic before pics yeah right i [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► like all the homes made out of old [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► growth for their just ripping it down [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► and shipping it off to a to a landfill [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► so they can build this green housing and [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► then you're living in a Habitrail but I [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► think that's what these are gonna be the [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► reason i mention that i need to look at [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► that article again but I think these are [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► going to be those like home of the [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► future top condos [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► you know it's like living in an RV oh [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► yeah you know the thing they're doing [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► now we can get like it's kinda been a [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► least on the paper and stuff they talked [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► a lot lately about San Francisco and you [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► know a future where we might have more [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► and more than 300 square foot [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► oh sure Peter minutes at what they would [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► have their ideal situation is that every [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► new housing is just like turned it's [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► just something out of the Tokyo Airport [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► where you put it you put your dad's room [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► for your fixing your hands out machine [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► value at four hundred yen into a slot a [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► little tube opens your clients like a [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► torpedo tube you climb in their face [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► down your penis just naturally goes into [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► the handjob slot and I'm and then [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► there's like sunscreen that's playing [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► you anime videos like Bank of videos of [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► like a rabbit's with the giants and [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► you're here all your functions are [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► naturally there tube goes right up your [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► personal or so far ahead of us corn [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► effluvia it [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► the problem is of course that ok here's [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► here's a here's a a inefficient [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► victorian housing unit right and the [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► prospect of shared housing where each [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► room in that house would be someone's [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► apartment and they would pay you know it [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► be it's the classic sort of college [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► shared house [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► well that's the old way of living [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► that's the way that I mean that that's [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► the way that house was designed [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► originally because the reason it has so [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► many bedrooms is that grandma lived with [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► you and your spinster aunt lived there [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► and you're here like your text [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► brother-in-law lived there and all these [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► people were living together in the house [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► and then for many years it was just like [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► a hippie flophouse or [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► people were sharing these rooms but now [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► the prospect of sharing a kitchen with [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► strangers are sharing a sharing even a [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► common area with strangers fills us with [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► anxiety and we would much rather have a [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► smaller and more antiseptic living [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► environment where we can go close our [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► door be away from other people no one [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► you know in a way we are becoming a [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► culture and I never thought I would say [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► this but like where introversion is is [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► setting the standard for for the way we [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► build and think about our space takes up [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► space in a sense that like just in my [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► own life just in my own adult life 20 [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► years ago and it wasn't just because i [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► was young but like what did you do on a [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► saturday night if you weren't going to a [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► rock show you were going to some [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► alternative theater or like the be [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► playing your baby grand piano [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► they are the alternatives were all [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► public it was if you weren't even social [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► social you work even if you were [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► somebody who was very like solitaire [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► without I mean it you could stay alone [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► in your apartment but even the most [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► solitary person needs some kind of [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► interaction and it and you had to get [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► that in the public sphere you had to go [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► to an event or at least go out and [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► wander around and in the last 20 years [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► all of our innovation has happened in [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► the sphere of allowing people to [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► interact with other people without go [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► out what's interesting and so if i don't [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► i would you have why would you have an [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► eight-room house in a way it's almost [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► like housing becomes does for housing [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► it's doing for housing what the cloud [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► does for data where we don't have to [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► have our own hard drive sitting around [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► we don't need a place to put a grand [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► piano effectively if you're going to [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► mostly be working at Twitter for 16 [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► hours a day pop into doc's clock for two [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► hours and then right back to your pod [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► like why would you need all of that [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► stuff right and and [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► increasingly like what do you need in [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► your house you need a sink you need a [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► shower [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► lots of power outlets lots of power [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► outlets nobody takes a bath anymore you [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► just need a kind of like you're any we [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► don't even really need to shower it [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► could just be compressed air you know [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► that just blows the dirt off of you and [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► then you have a microwave and you have [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► one sort of heating element that that [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► connects your pot so that it boil some [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► water for your ramen screen for [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► seamless.com and and and you need to [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► poop chute man and for now at least you [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► need up you need a box of Kleenex for [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► your just because nobody has figured out [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► a way to recycle that they're starting [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► they're going to knock down flax in [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► order to put up tiny condos I hope [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► there's going to be some some cheese [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► apertures well there won't be because [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► because you and I don't have that do not [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► have the widespread agency yet to be [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► affecting like zoning or touching people [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► that only few at a time [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► yeah and I and I feel like I don't [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► necessarily think that housing people in [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► pods is is the wrong direction but again [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► I mean and I an addict i will be the [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► last guy to reference the matrix movies [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► over and over and over [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► sure but but like those little yellow [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► gel-filled like yes it's basically it's [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► like a human ramekin sitting there like [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► a desert product right and you are you [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► are unaware of the outside world you're [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► unaware that you are even that your [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► world isn't the world you perceive it to [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► be it's just a little holding it's just [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► a little soap dish that that that you [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► know keeps you alive as you generate [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► energy for the road as you generate [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► energy for the robots and I mean it's [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► it's amazingly appreciate when you start [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► to when you start to imagine that the [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► that the next generation the next [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► iteration of our modern world is a lot [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► closer to the first step toward that [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► eventualities than it is a step in a [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► different direction [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► right you know like sure put me in a [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► smaller apartment and and put my virtual [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► headset on and and give me a give me a [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► sex friend and I you know and and the [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► heat these super ferrets that have [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► become sort of sort of self-aware [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► because they're eating this high [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► nutrition food super ferrets are [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► basically performing the role of helper [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► monkeys [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► haha that's terrific thank you know they [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► can turn pages for you that you don't [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► then you're plugging your you're walking [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► walking stickers [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► yeah they have a natural affinity for [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► going up high and they want to go to [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► there and reach stuff for you like this [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► store treat ya get up there hey hey fair [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► buddy you know like if you don't bring [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► me down my cocoa krispies I'm not going [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► to give you your little fugitive the you [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► know like a pearl jam [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► oh goodness man takes a village [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► pearl jam is that where that comes from [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► and I figured it was a little on the [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► nose but is that the you know they claim [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► that it's named after grandma pearls jam [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► i heard it was under the giant there was [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► a drawing from john lennon son was lucy [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► in the sky and so who ya at ncc that [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► steely dan still Barrett's lot of rock [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► rock sex crossover I mean I'm feeling it [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► I'm feeling it all the time in my own [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► life is that right well if you're [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► feeling the pole to to make a dick joke [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► in your band name [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► i I just I feel like as you get to as [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► you get is you arrive at a certain [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► station in life I i was watching this [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► documentary the other day where George [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► Hamilton appears in the documentary john [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► milius I was watching that John Milius [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► document wasn't that a hell of a thing [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► as an extraordinary documentary it was I [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► did not know I didn't either about what [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► happened well for I mean I knew he was a [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► little bit unusual i didn't know he was [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► had that many photos of himself taking [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► them uniforms with guns [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► yeah but i didn't know what happened to [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► him that's so sad [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► well I mean certainly the stroke is sad [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► but the clerk's but certainly this is [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► something that the like I I was not [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► aware that he made red dawn I didn't [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► know he did code and I don't know chance [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► to read on the other day because I feel [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► like the I feel like the logic of red [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► dawn made so much sense to me as a [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► teenager like somebody in the [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► documentary there's some like you know [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► do-gooder whole segment about all this [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► scare segments about way Red Dawn means [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► about American yes and some guy says [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► like the most violent the most violent [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► movie ever made [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► it's only only a teenager would watch [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► this movie and then he turns the camera [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► is like only a dumb teenager and I was [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► like excuse me sir i was that teenager [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► and you tested very well and Red Dawn [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► you know let don was a movie that the [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► the plot of red dawn had occurred to us [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► all for 15 years you couldn't have grown [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► up during the cold war without imagining [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► because we all saw the day after and [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► we've been in the day after was was [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► pandering to an idea that we'd already [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► had a million times like if if we bases [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► apocalypse porn [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► yeah if if nuclear war is inevitable [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► then your options are either you are [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► vaporized in the first instance and have [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► no a have no awareness of it or you are [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► chemically poisoned and die a gruesome [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► death in a in a burned-out basically [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► basically looking like a non-player [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► character in a terrible D&D campaign [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► right or your third option is somehow [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► you survived it either because you live [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► way out in Montana or because you are a [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► mutant and you have a that you are [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► immune to to radiation or the radiation [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► only makes you stronger or something and [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► then what they didn't exploit that full [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► but of the three options when you're [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► let's say you're a thirteen-year-old [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► hear your three options either you are [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► vaporized instantly and you don't know [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► anything [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► or you get sick and die in short order [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► or maybe you become a mutant rebel [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► leader which one which idea are you [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► going to spend more time thinking about [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► ya and so I mean but but but realizing [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► now that red dawn that the logic of red [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► dawn is powering our whole generation [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► where we no longer have a Soviet threat [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► people are able to insert whatever [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► threat [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► whatever the threat de jure is into the [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► into that function machine of like [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► here's my red dawn function machine i [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► don't care what the what the [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► the reason is that I end up having to [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► move out to the grid and defend my land [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► but I and i'll put a new thing in there [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► as suits but what my fantasy is is that [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► is that [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► is that [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► some like new world order some big [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► overarching power comes after me and I [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► have to king of the sewer dwelling [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► Morlocks yeah right I i I'm king of the [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► more the moment for the or the like [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► country people or whatever and we fight [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► we fight a war of resistance is [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► fascinating I mean I wonder I wonder how [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► much my own fantasy life is still locked [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► in a red dawn John you can tell people [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► today about the eighties because it's [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► it's so frankly unbelievable something [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► we talked about probably two or three [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► times that I hear people talk about this [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► and everybody slept this off like it [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► wasn't a real thing but the absolute [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► obsession that everything was about [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► Satanism for a while [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► was it was everywhere whether that was [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► dnd or whether that was judas priest or [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► whatever was and but there were people [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► on TV shows that my grandmother watch [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► the SAT there and played records [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► backwards because they thought it was [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► really it was really telling you [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► remember when every day care in the [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► country was actually a Satanist sex ring [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► yeah that was like little old ladies [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► were raping our babies have one story is [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► say so chilling about that with a mother [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► and the son at that place the famous [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► case absolutely chilling but you know [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► it's another one of these hysteria is [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► where every once in a while the village [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► has to just completely freaked out about [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► the other and then just insert you know [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► name of other here [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► whatever happened to Satanists I imagine [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► there are more sickness [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► I mean just going on the number of [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► people I see wearing pentagram necklaces [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► had comicon I think irony has been hard [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► on Satanist it's a Satan Satanism is a [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► it's not very hit I mean it was hit but [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► there was one thing to be like Anton [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► LaVey guy in the sixties and seventies [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► or something I mean there's one thing to [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► be like into the magics back then and [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► today I think it's it seems a little i [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► don't know i think if it seems ludicrous [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► remember the Eddie Murphy movie where he [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► went to Tibet or yeah the golden child [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► the golden child right and just barely [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► hand and like I or maybe it was nepal [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► know i think it was Tibet and and he was [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► he was trying to s [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► chords the the new lama who was just a [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► little boy and the Lama had to get back [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► to Tibet for some reason but then Satan [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► was involved what somehow and actually [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► according to Hoyle Satan well that's the [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► thing like there were some bad men who [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► were trying to capture the golden child [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► because the golden child would someone [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► at capturing him in a giant bird cage [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► was going to help them advance their [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► evil starting a fever dream at what did [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► within and i highly recommend everybody [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► watch the golden child again it's a [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► great Eddie Murphy vehicle and coming to [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► America and butt but like somewhere [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► along the line in the film i think [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► probably when the screenwriters what [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► would like the the first run of cocaine [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► had run out and they they were like you [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► know they were like seven pizza boxes [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► deep and they were just like okay all [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► right now what happens well write these [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► guys are these bad guys are actually [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► Satan and demons their demons right and [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► then the chief bad guy is the devil and [TS]

01:03:20 ◼   ► I was and I was like I even remember it [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► watching this movie as a teenager and [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► and asking like is the devil part of the [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► like cosmology of tibetan buddhism I [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► don't think of it being a real demon [TS]

01:03:38 ◼   ► centered that sounds like i like i like [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► high school creative writing thing but [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► like the bad guy is a real and different [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► eons i think yeah right right right [TS]

01:03:47 ◼   ► about this movie like really spiraled [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► out into into a world of it got a cup [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► bury it in a way with it was I don't [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► remember which one came first i think [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► maybe golden child but there it got into [TS]

01:04:02 ◼   ► some real big trouble in little china [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► territory where you gotta watch that you [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► keep reminding me i got to watch you [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► know where there's some supernatural [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► powers that that maybe hint at it it's [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► that whole ladies thing where it's like [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► there's a there's a really bad guy here [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► who has some Anor [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► most power like he's eternal but somehow [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► but the stakes of this film are are [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► pretty small like like this this eternal [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► Chinese demon that means to marry a girl [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► with green eyes [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► ok that seems like something he could [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► have done over the last where's here's [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► the thing i'm did you ever see the [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► original Rosemary's Baby the Roman [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► Polanski Rosemary's Baby [TS]

01:04:48 ◼   ► no because you know how I am about scary [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► movies [TS]

01:04:52 ◼   ► it's the thing that's much too probably [TS]

01:04:54 ◼   ► the last three or four months and i have [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► to say it's it's so awfully good and it [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► is so chilling and here's part of what [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► there's something odd about this great i [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► mean there's so many layers especially [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► once you got a kid it gets interviewed a [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► double maybe well that's the thing and [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► this is what makes it great so if there [TS]

01:05:10 ◼   ► was a guy with a pitchfork and horns [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► running around going teehee it would be [TS]

01:05:16 ◼   ► silly but it's all of these people who [TS]

01:05:18 ◼   ► are doing creepy stuff there's little [TS]

01:05:20 ◼   ► the two big parts of it three first [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► pregnancy okay anytime you get pregnancy [TS]