Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hi John [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► hi Marilyn that's gone [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► m2m things are going good i'm i'm i'm [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► sitting here dressed in my my Hawkeye [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► Pierce outfit which is to say a a wet [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► kimono baseball hat from merrill field [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► airport [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► hmm some sleep but ugh slippers how you [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► recently bathed [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► yeah just got a little bathroom i got [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► about the specifically to do this [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► broadcast I kind of the things that you [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► give up for this challenge I know you [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► want the time to find some kind of [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► thirsty or apparel no no I'm fine I'm [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► just you know I'm I'm off-gassing a [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► little bit and just just getting in the [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► zone [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► oh it's it like silky my skin your [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► kimono [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► oh no it's a you know it's a cotton [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► kimono up you know just various shades [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► of blue flowers large blue flowers I i'm [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► not i'm not i really here's what i want [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► i want to live in a world where I [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► dressing kimonos but i do not live in [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► that world it's another world I want to [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► live in that I don't live in what you [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► mean like where people wouldn't look ask [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► ask if you go to the bank to cash check [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► and you're wearing a white kimono [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► nobody's gonna say anything [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► well you know I wouldn't wear wet kimono [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► to the bank not at first but like a big [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► like a big kimono and some like wooden [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► sandals and just sort of you know but [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► not i wouldn't we have a topknot or [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► anything i've been wearing a baseball [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► hat like a normal guy but just like in a [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► in a serious warrior kimono but what you [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► know people with people would give me [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► the hairy eyeball on I get that enough [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► and now is that your typical bounced on [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► me day i'm interested in robes [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► yeah he told me to yeah because I don't [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► know I feel I feel kind of guilty when [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► I'm wearing a robe for too long really [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► not guilty is the wrong word i feel [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► self-conscious [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► Yeah right sure indulgence I guess yeah [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► and so it's just the usual is the robe [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► invite you if you can say is this the [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► robe that you would use to prowl your [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► perimeter carrying a sword [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► no no let me walk you through the robes [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► the the longest robe the [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► longest-standing robe if not the longest [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► in length is a Pendleton row but that [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► belonged to my dad that is made out of [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► like the scrap the scratchy istanbul you [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► would not you would not make a blanket [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► for a horse out of this wall is so [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► scratchy but for some reason Pendleton [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► made it into a robe probably in the [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► authorities my dad had this whole life [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► then I stole it from him and and it was [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► an expression of like literally a [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► hairshirt i would put on this robe gotta [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► hit the head and then you're you're like [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► a wet horse at that point that's the [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► opposite of getting comfortable [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► yeah you would be in a scratchy robe and [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► you would walk around and kind of feel [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► like yes yes even if you've had some [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► corporeal sins through the day but you'd [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► like to relax and play some videogames [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► you put on your your horse hair shirt [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► horse road yeah I I it's like the bath [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► soothes you and then like jumping into a [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► cold pond you jump into a harsh robe who [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► totally harsh robe so then i said then [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► sometime as after I grew to adulthood I [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► was like I don't have to wear this robe [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► all the time [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► this is a robe to wear over silk pajamas [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► where the scratchiness of it isn't a [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► factor so then I got a a white [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► terrycloth robe like you would steal [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► from a hotel [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► whoo that's what I have yeah and I wear [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► that for a long time except the sleeves [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► were too short [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► ok so then i bought a blu terrycloth [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► robe and I made the classic mistake I do [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► this all the time i bought a double-xl [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► thinking that the sleeves were too short [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► in the old robe i'm going to get a [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► double XL [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► and um and that's gonna you know that's [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► gonna fit me properly but in fact in [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► fact I look like Rasputin in this thing [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► the sleeves are four feet too long [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► it's made for a 500 pound man that's [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► comfort country but that is the road but [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► that's the category area though you [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► think it's going to be more comfortable [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► because it's really big but but that's a [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► little too big [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► yeah exactly like wizard sleeves but it [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► was leaves [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► I mean a peter the great would lop off [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► my beard if he caught me in this robe [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► but uh but this is the road by we're out [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► into the yard this is the yard robe [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► ok because it wraps around you like a [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► Snuggie it's like going out into the [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► yard like in a terrycloth house and and [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► it's also midnight like in cotton yurt [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► yeah it's like you get exactly i could [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► pull it up over my head and build a [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► cooking fire but it's midnight blue also [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► sort exactly something like Hammacher [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► Schlemmer would come up with for [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► christmas time I i forget what the brand [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► of this thing is but it's it's something [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► like that it's like it's its design it's [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► basically designed for you and a friend [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► but admits that i have tested it and [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► raccoons cannot see it it's like it's [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► like a certain color and it has a kind [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► of shark skin quality that raccoons just [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► think it's like leaves blowing in the [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► wind [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► that's Andy and they'll walk right up on [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► you because sometimes you want to be [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► seen but then other times you want to be [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► able to move with some stealth if you [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► want to do some reconnaissance exactly i [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► don't know the kimonos are recent that [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► I've just been started classes for John [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► time that's just exactly that's for me I [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► got a less is not very interesting but [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► yeah we went to on our honeymoon on the [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► honey on our honeymoon with our moms and [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► and that we like the robe so much that [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► our moms on the sly bodice the first of [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► all that was at some Victorian gasthaus [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► gasps howls gasps house up in sonoma [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► county you're good yeah i got it was got [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► that place is amazing but yeah I feel [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► real real girly in it or or just people [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► oh I'm not well y'know I mean I get by [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► but yeah it's very big very thirsty very [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► comfortable [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► it's nice for coming out of the shower [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► but you let me let me ask you this year [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► your offices within a block of your [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► house would you walk to your office from [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► your house in this road oh my gosh that [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► is such a good question right because I [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► wasn't going to say anything but I'm hmm [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► I should cut this out i have noticed it [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► was occurring to me today when I came to [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► the office and I'd like to you know I [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► you know how triangulation works you [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► don't really too much richer but I [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► measured the time that it took when I [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► got this office and I could easily [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► listen to to like basically the first [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► two verses of thunder road is the amount [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► of time it takes me to go between the [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► two places I know your fan right and [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► it's very very close and it occurred to [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► me that like I've been at resorts and [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► large hotels where we take me far more [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► time to walk to the lobby of the hotel [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► that it takes me soon as I gotta go I [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► gotta do an internet thing right like a [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► TV related thing that's all I'm going to [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► say I gotta go do something at the [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► office and i have to tell you it this is [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► only really happened in the last 2-3 [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► weeks and I find the same way too much [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► my sartorial decisions for ambling [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► toward the office are getting more and [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► more informal uh-uh I don't know why [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► it's so this is funny timing because it [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► like for the last whatever for four [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► years I've had this office I would [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► always go get dressed like a gentleman [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► to go to the office i'll put on my holy [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► pants or whatever but yeah I have to [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► tell you like I've been sliding into [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► sweatpants territory to go to the office [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► well everybody on that block has seen [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► you go buy a million times they they [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► know you're you belong there [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► that's so freaky when that happens so [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► why not start just wearing a garbage bag [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► with armholes it doesn't breathe bad [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► trip [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► well I you know that's funny you should [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► say that too because I've also noticed [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► more often people saying things like oh [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► I saw you the other day [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► uh-huh like my lady at the KFC she'll [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► say I I see you walking by and I never [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► encouraged me to people can see me [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► walking by so I don't even know who sees [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► me and I've been i I've been here long [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► enough now that people are probably seen [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► me but people soon you but I i think i [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► turned a corner in the last week or so I [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► was really really i think yeah obviously [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► mention you last week I was really [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► really sick and we could go today [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► and I think my standards slip even [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► further I did something I never ever [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► ever do and now I'm definitely saying [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► too much I started going to the office [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► without my wallet [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► oh sure why would you need it i got my [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► phone and listen because I'm usually [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► listen to music or podcast and that's in [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► a jacket sleeve jacket pocket because [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► you know more in sweatpants but then I [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► don't even bother I just my question [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► John is like where will I be in say two [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► and a half months right well that's what [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► I'm saying it's just going to be you in [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► roller blades with the dish towel [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► wrapped around your waist that's a good [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► smart look but the thing is going to the [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► office without your wallet that puts you [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► in a problematic situation what if you [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► suddenly need two chili dogs [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► that's a really good point yeah back to [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► the house to keep it to keep a bucket of [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► change there at the desk [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► it's not it's not often the money thing [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► is is that that's a very good question [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► it's not even the money thing it's that [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► and I i berate my beloved wife about [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► this because she just like sometimes [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► goes out of the house without all the [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► kit and i'm a big believer you know I [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► carry a backpack that giant backpack [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► everywhere i go i'm always got [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► everything with me I've got several [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► forms of identification I've got cash I [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► got cards I've always gotta have several [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► if you want to talk about I several [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► heuristics for make sure I don't lose [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► things that are extremely interesting [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► phenomena miix you get mnemonics mama [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► cooks mom mnemonics I do actually [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► several i have seven marks involving [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► keys if you'd like to learn and because [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► my biggest fear but luckily and boy I'm [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► really saying too much now the door of [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► my office requires a key to get in sure [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► and then I want to get in i lock the [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► door with the same key so that's a [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► mnemonic right there right [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► got a life hack tool is actually it's [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► cuz the one key lifehack ya une oh yeah [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► the other day and I and my dad but now I [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► guess I I think about it and you know [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► how it is with life and substances where [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► you something starts out really simple [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► and then you find yourself challenging [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► yourself that idea of like can I throw [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► the beanbag a little bit further this [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► time and I'm just wondering i wonder if [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► i will get to a point where we should [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► probably capture this for later circle [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► barefoot I think you're going to make [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► that walk barefoot next time I i did [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► barefoot for a while in college I've [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► been barefoot but are you gonna make [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► that particular walk barefoot a question [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► knowing what you know about your [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► neighbor let's cut to the chase how long [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► will it be before I put on a comfortable [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► warm jacket and look to the office in my [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► underwear is a long t-shirt nothing else [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► yeah I could do that now that lady [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► walked up a lady walk to her office [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► I don't want to be a normative but if a [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► lady walked her office and repair that [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► would seem like a penthouse forum thing [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► listen my favorite thing in the world is [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► a lady in a trench coat with nothing [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► else have you forgotten that I mean I [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► don't want to have to cut this all out [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► ok but you know maybe they're living in [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► a song that used to be a special thing [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► which song you can say oh it's in it [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► while it's in an unreleased song but [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► it's in there not moving to Portland to [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► get song [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► yeah I I don't know I you know what will [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► probably do an awkward call an offline [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► follow up about this i'm not sure i want [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► to triangulate any more than I have at [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► this point I'm probably hexagonal aiding [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► sure but I have a feeling I'm knowing [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► how I am and knowing you know you know [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► how I mean I'm scared of everything [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► well yeah I'm sure you suggested for me [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► uh-huh was driven by fear was that the [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► shirt you that I could get up in very [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► very tiny letters like I want people to [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► be able to read it but that but they're [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► button button of those like dripping [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► paint letters really small dripping [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► paint letters [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► what do you mean like like a tease [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► rollerskating leadership is matter of [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► our shipping papers from them all put a [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► little kitty cat on a branch of Friday's [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► coming i have been I could see myself [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► pushing myself to that and saying [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► because you know it is that it's like [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► procrastination it's like any kind of [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► like like substance abuse or anything [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► when you get away with something for [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► awhile you eventually you can see how [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► far you can i'm a i'm a tonight just [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► walk home with my wagon just see if i [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► can do it i mean you know at a certain [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► hour there is nothing i mean i have i've [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► made a practice of wandering around sort [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► of that my local neighborhood in nothing [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► but a bathrobe and a sword [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► yeah and I find it incredibly liberating [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► but would I get into the car in a [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► bathroom and a sword know first of all [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► no I know why [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► see I i think this is something we have [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► in common is it and I I i would like to [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► think that this drives your mates as [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► crazy as it drives my mates but i really [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► like to walk through i like to think [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► through like if we're driving somewhere [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► okay but we better bring a blanket [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► because what if something happens with [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► the car looks actually talk about their [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► we should have some energy bars sure in [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► some gallons of water and struggling [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► t-bones the car and you're the only one [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► you and everyone else is knocked [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► unconscious and you have to escape [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► through a side window [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► yes haha are you going to get your [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► fucking bathrobe tangled in the rearview [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► mirror [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► it seems so simple you could drive naked [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► for years and never have a problem and [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► then one day it's before you realize you [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► forgot your driver's license and now [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► you're entering a world of pain [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► yeah well you would bring one ring [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► Yahtzee and water and be ready this is [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► why I don't get a belly button piercing [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► I've said it before I don't want [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► anything that could possibly get snagged [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► if I have to go over chain-link fence [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► and a and I think you should make all of [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► your life decisions based on is there a [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► chance I'm gonna have to go over a [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► chain-link fence at some point today and [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► when I go walk around my perimeter in my [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► bathrobe I make sure I'm there's never a [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► fence between me and and the front door [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► behind which is my you know small bag in [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► my arsenal of medieval weapons [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► I said you don't use it you know it's [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► there you know you're missing is your [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► mentally prepared you know you even you [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► know even if it doesn't come up it may [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► not come up for years and then make them [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► up like three times in a couple days [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► just like Mossad is after you or [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► something they did i'm just saying i get [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► into this all the time with people and [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► their stupid shoes so make your shoes as [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► fancy as you want i don't get make them [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► ten feet tall have a fishbowl in the [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► souls but if you cannot either get the [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► heck out of those shoes in a hurry [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► and-and-and make the pace or like make [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► the pace in the shoes but anytime I'm [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► like walking around and all of a sudden [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► I'm Mike holding hands with with it with [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► an instant gimp right like we look great [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► at the party and then it's like hey we [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► like it's only two-and-a-half blocks up [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► and a block and a half over to get to [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► the get to the next party and they're [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► like oh and all of a sudden insta GIMP [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► and there was little [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► open and there's feet are bleeding i [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► brought my kitten heel do you live in [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► the world that I kiss your feet your [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► feet would have you would have been fine [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► and pretty much I mean that they're the [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► the great pantheon of women shoes [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► includes plenty of cute little shoes [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► that can also be used to scale offense [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► let's be honest there are a lot there's [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► a lot of very handsome boots that a lady [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► can wear that are there they're [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► attractive and they're comfortable and [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► they're they're ready for evading the [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► song that comes up when it comes up this [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► is what i'm asking you Merlin [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► high-fashion for many many many years [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► high-fashion I'm talking about like the [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► the real high stuff the Italian and [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► French super you know like custom-made [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► fashion who those crazies have been [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► marching a their runway models up and [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► down this up and down the street in [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► logger boots for like 30 years now [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► there's nothing there's nothing new to [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► it right [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► giant like gene Simmons kiss boots and [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► motorcycle boots [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► why don't all women just take the q that [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► that is the best shoe if you just have a [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► knee-high motorcycle boot it goes with [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► everything right [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► yak I don't understand I don't know that [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► we have we have crossed this bridge and [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► cross it and cross them cross that and [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► yet I keep seeing pumps I keep seeing [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► people choosing pumps [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► well you understand why that is I mean [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► that they're there is a mixture foot [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► look like it makes the girls foot look [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► like a cloven hoof okay yeah i guess [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► that's Blaine Victor doesn't make them [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► it makes it makes your butt stick out [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► you walk you walk cute you look tall [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► there's a lot a lot of things to [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► recommend them but the problem is it's [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► one thing to be like in the court of [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► louie the what 14 it wasn't to be in a [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► loony court where the whole idea is you [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► are deliberately wearing completely [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► impractical close to show how powerful [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► you are right to express your wealth and [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► your and the fact that no one will [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► require you to lift a thing except your [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► petticoats to go to the bathroom behind [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► the car [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► order to hide a page or uh four horsemen [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► hello could you hide under a petticoat I [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► saw a doctor who were he had under [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► address i would happily hide under a [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► petticoat and this is that this is the [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► ecology standard there could you bring [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► water depends on who's petticoat who I [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► was thinking about this the other day [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► you know i'm often bemoaning the fact [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► that people address so Shapley when [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► there are so many wonderful ways to [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► address that are just as comfortable as [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► shabby dressing and I was talking to my [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► mom I was reflecting on like oh you know [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► when you were a kid or back in the [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► forties like everybody dressed great and [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► it was such a much better way of his so [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► much more more more beautiful world when [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► every all men in suits and all women [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► dresses and just you know everybody's [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► wearing a hat it's like I I long for it [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► even though I only saw the tail end of [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► it in my mind it was real I mean if you [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► deserve newsreels up until Kennedy every [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► guy always wear a hat [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► yeah but what my mom said is what the [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► photographs cannot convey is that [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► everybody smelled to high heaven then [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► like it was before deodorant had been [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► invented and so the so maybe like the [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► opposite of x so people doused [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► themselves with perfumes and powders so [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► rich people smelled like Victoria's [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► Secret dressing rooms it and poor people [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► just smelled like toilets and so [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► everywhere you went every public [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► transportation just walking down the [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► sidewalk you just assaulted constantly [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► assaulted by by poopin powder and you [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► know now you could you when you're in a [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► public space and there's somebody that [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► smells strongly either strongly a [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► perfumer strongly body odor it stands [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► out you're like oh my god you person [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► come on get a grip but my mom said back [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► and you know back in the thirties and [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► forties like everybody just wreaked I [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► bet part of that was you got first of [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► all just let's step 0 yet wool right you [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► have probably had a lot of stuff that [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► had to be dry-cleaned you're wearing [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► wool suits all your room [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► I think people Oh [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► and fewer clothes then probably yeah you [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► took care of them and you mended them [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► couple of suits three or four suits if [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► you were a normal person i ordered i [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► ordered 12 pairs of socks a from amazon [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► is it really is that simple and then [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► what what what time to let stuff like [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► that pretty pedestrian so to speak [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► yeah white gold is there a global white [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► gold toes you know what's going on the [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► pad thing but you know your your good [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► friend Jesse Thorne gave me a real [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► lecture one time because i was wearing [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► white gold toes with a suit [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► well he's got a lot of lectures in him [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► we I I checked though in the last time [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► that i bought on one of my mass orders [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► was August like that's how recently so [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► my thing is like not today that this how [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► crazy we are today like today you know [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► you would buy a VCR but you by the [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► electronic devices you don't get them [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► fixed but it used to be like now I [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► discovered I had a pair of socks on the [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► other day I had I had a hole in my sock [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► which i get about twice a year because I [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► throw them out when they get to gross i [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► think that then you would have closed [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► you might have 5-10 year old underwear [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► like as just a matter of course I only [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► say I think that wall you get a dress [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► for work so if you had to wear a suit to [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► work [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► not everybody's just adore not everybody [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► has a lot of fancy suits in the tri [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► forties you wear the same suit you wore [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► yesterday and the suit award the day [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► before also john foundation where I [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► think for ladies [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► I mean I think a lot if you watch go [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► back and look at those a all like the [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► shapes that women have are not Cheryl no [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► 10 layers of underwear [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► yeah so so now this is a lot of wash [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► we're talking about 1940 now the modern [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► era now imagine how people smelled in [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► 1840 I heard that I've heard I don't [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► want to I don't want to sound like I'm [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► looking down my nose at the French cuz i [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► know that's the thing i do so to speak [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► but the but i've heard people were [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► pretty stinky back there well not alone [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► are still pretty stinky and France but I [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► mean people everywhere like I think this [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► is one of the things that we never [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► talked about what when we talk about [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► time travel [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► I think the most i think the most [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► extraordinary aspect of travelling back [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► in time would be that you would land and [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► immediately you your senses that cannot [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► be conveyed by phone film like your your [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► smell senses [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► would be assaulted immediately if you [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► met with the lower east side must have [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► smelled like in like the 19-teens right [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► anybody that amazing but like you know [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► when there's a lot of people there you [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► know probably not super fancy you got [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► all those different ethnic foods going [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► on another note Roman animals like in [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► the streets right i mean you're not [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► lower east side you're not going to the [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► still local whole foods like whole foods [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► the organic chicken place you are like [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► grabbing a chicken off the roof or [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► whatever and and cutting its throat and [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► then I mean he would be the streets [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► would be running with blood and offal [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► and and poop and pee food and and yet we [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► look at those pictures and were like oh [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► while several times cheese people with [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► the families might might might that the [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► history of my whole my whole story of [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► travel like the first time I left [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► because in Alaska right or Seattle or I [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► mean seattle was built sort of largely [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► constructed in the last hundred years [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► san franciscans older but Alaska in 1940 [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► Anchorage was like for pup tents and a [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► windmill so the entire city has been [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► built since the advent of every all mod [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► cons right so growing up in Anchorage [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► there was no opportunity to ever smell [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► an open sewer it just would never happen [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► and my first experience of going to I [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► mean I then it really it happened the [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► first time I went to New York City to be [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► in a city full of people and to smell [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► something come up out of a hole in the [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► ground that suggested the amazing warren [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► of pipes of dookie pipes I was you know [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► like I i had to control my retching [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► because I because the spell was [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► unfamiliar and also I knew what it [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► represented and then the first time I [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► went to Europe and you know the streets [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► of Paris or just straight [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► rune with feces really well because they [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► don't curb their dogs their first of all [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► so it's considered part of being a [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► Parisian that you take your shitty [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► little dog out and walk down the street [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► and just let it shit anywhere [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► yeah like that's it's actually like it [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► was a cultural problem we keep helping [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► them they are really adamant about it [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► and they eat take don't they like go to [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► the table at a cafe your dog can sit [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► absolutely i have its part it's part of [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► the Gallic culture i don't understand it [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► I don't I can't judge that's don't know [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► just that that's got to be just they're [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► being deliberately annoying they are [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► being deliberately annoying and they're [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► so there's poop everywhere and then also [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► Paris was built by the Romans and I'm [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► sure that the I'm sure that the [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► underlying fundamental foundational [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► sewer system is still Roman it's still [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► just like terracotta like poop tumblers [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► right you just it's like gravity fed [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► tumble the loop down and it was let's be [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► honest that's it was pretty advanced for [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► its time it was incredible 2,000 years [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► ago but I'm sure whatever you know [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► anytime you go into a into a European [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► bathroom the first thing that you're [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► struck by is like that's your toilet and [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► that's your bathtub like interesting [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► like like so much of so much we share so [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► much with Europe but the kitchen [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► appliances and the bathroom facilities [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► are always just a little bit off like [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► they like somebody was doing a film [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► design and it's kind of like the cars in [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► sleeper the Woody Allen film you know [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► that the cars and sleeper from the [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► future but you can tell that it's just [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► it's just like a paper mache car over [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► the top of a little ewwy magretta like [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► their feet w is in that [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► yeah maybe under under some crazy some [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► crazy body fake bodywork and that's what [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► I always feel like when I'm looking at [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► at a at a European dishwasher or paper [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► or a bathtub it's just like really [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► really everything's kind of little like [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► what you have been to Europe but I've [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► been to England and everything's seems [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► very compact [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► the thing that strikes me about New York [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► I haven't been there and been to [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► Manhattan in a while but he should [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► change that you know you and I should go [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► to Manhattan and do a show we got to [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► talk about a lot of things [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► yeah i heard you're writing a book or we [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► can cut all this okay um we got a lot to [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► talk about but out whenever I go to New [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► York last time i was there are staying [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► in the garment district and I remember [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► uh you know how like you realize [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► something for a long time and then you [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► find it like finally like realize the [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► name for what it is [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► it was like and I was like I was in a [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► pretty god i was lucky enough to be in a [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► pretty quiet hotel all things considered [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► but still you can look out the window [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► and just all night long [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► there's something going on all the time [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► in New York City and and that's so [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► different from almost anywhere I've ever [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► lived including San Francisco San [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► Francisco everything closes up pretty [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► early [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► yeah bye-bye really any sooner annoying [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► yeah metropolitan city standards but in [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► a city new york really feels like an [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► organism it feels like a big breathing [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► eating pissing shitting organism and [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► like there's just trucks delivering [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► stuff in crazy places and crazy times [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► their hosing down the street and it [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► really feels like a brood like there's [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► this you know what I mean like that I [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► guess it's probably cities like that in [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► Europe but new york manhattan really [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► feels like that to me it really feels [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► like like a giant complex animal that we [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► just happen to be living on for a little [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► while [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► yeah well that the the the great thing [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► about Manhattan is there are no Ali's [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► right at most cities that were built in [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► America were built with Ali's for [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► delivery and trash right and all the [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► facilities right awps person in [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► Manhattan you're like oh my god you're [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► you're a fucking wizard what are you [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► doing [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► they all are wizards everybody they have [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► the same UPS truck UPS truck series park [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► where they want for as long as they want [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► and there they just they have to go to [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► the most improbable places in the [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► craziest traffic i don't know anyone [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► survives it [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► yeah the people there learn to park on [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► top of fun polls because you are like [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► everywhere you are it's to talk about [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► keep moving and get out of the way like [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► as soon as you stop moving there you are [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► in 500 people's way [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► and so everybody just keeps and-and-and [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► like like I say no Ali's no back doors [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► to anything so all deliveries all [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► garbage [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► it all has to come in and out through [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► the same front door that business is [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► being conducted through and everybody's [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► coming in and out at all times you know [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► there's no the city can't afford to rest [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► because there's no such thing as like I [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► just put that out back [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► well we'll figure it out oh there's [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► there's no there's no place like here [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► you might say oh you know drop off my [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► delivery you know in this you know go [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► through this access door and go leave it [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► here in this space everything is public [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► it's all it's all happening and if you [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► put something out on the sidewalk and [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► someone will move into it it will go [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► away yeah people are like a look at this [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► room and so the the yeah the the city [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► just but but but i but i think it's the [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► most amazing place you know like at any [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► hour of the of the day four o'clock in [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► the morning you can go only a couple of [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► blocks from where you are wherever that [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► is and walk into a place and say I would [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► like a four-course meal [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► yeah i would like chicken parmesan and [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► apple pie and decaf coffee and let's say [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► for instance calamari fried calamari and [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► there will be people there that think [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► that's the most reasonable thing in the [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► world and they will bring it to you with [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► no comment and there will be people all [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► around you having similar meals and just [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► like yeah for its that that's right [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► that's right world [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► here's what's crazy about that so like [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► in San Francisco is just I don't know it [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► you know it's a really weird place like [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► there's not that many fast-food places [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► there's not that many gas stations [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► there's all kinds of stuff with the like [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► we've let other places take care of that [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► there's not nearly as much of that kind [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► of stuff there's a small version of a [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► gas station here and so forth but like [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► in Florida so that that's pretty weird [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► for a theoretically metropolitan place [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► like in Florida Marlins in Florida there [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► were all kinds of places that were open [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► 24 hours [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► they're like giant like enormous like 24 [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► pump gas stations with a blimpies inside [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► that were open fucking 24 hours a day [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► walmart the walmart is open 2014 going [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► to buy a lawnmower in the middle of the [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► night but here's the difference so we [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► don't have that here in Florida you go [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► there but you know it's there in the [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► middle of the night loonies like the [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► holy people at these places at two in [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► the morning are there for something [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► lurid generally but the crazy what [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► you're describing about Manhattan the [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► party never could get my head around [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► this exactly what you described you walk [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► in and there and like you go ahead and [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► you okay i'm drunk i ordered calamari [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► know like it's everybody in there it's [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► totally normal it's a it's a 24-hour [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► town [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► yeah and i have no context for a place [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► where you would just go and go you know [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► what I want to go get some pretty above [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► average Greek food at four-twenty in the [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► morning [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► yeah I've never experienced that I don't [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► and arteries there's a guy in there [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► working on his novel there are two [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► sweethearts canoodling lost just like to [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► senior citizens you like what are you [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► doing is here in the middle of the night [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► yeah that's so suspicious everywhere [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► I've ever lived to be out after targets [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► like the Middle Ages it's like what why [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► would you be at this place now for more [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► than why would you be anywhere in the [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► middle of the night for an hour unless [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► it was for something release sketchy [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► well and I and as I Drive around my own [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► town in the middle of the night [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► reflecting on why the fuck everybody is [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► not out hanging out with each other [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► I can't but come back to that we are all [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► at home watching television like it's [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► not that everybody is asleep [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► it is that everybody is watching uh like [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► workout commercials and weight loss [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► commercials alone in their own little [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► sanctums and not making that small extra [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► effort to go to the one place that is [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► open and just sit and like read a paper [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► bag or whatever if you're up at that [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► hour at least I like that's that that is [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► the one time of day I do like to be in a [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► place where there you know there's a [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► little hustle bustle and people are [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► around females like that like a waffle [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► house kind of scene [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► well we don't have waffle houses but but [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► you don't really like someplace like [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► that someplace where you could go and [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► just like a Denny's type [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► yeah a little diner you get a piece of [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► pie with a cup of coffee and you write [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► in your journal or e-reader you read a [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► up but the paperback I mean I feel like [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► that experience it is one that we all [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► take for granted we all think of as kind [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► of like oh that's kind of lonely like [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► you're in the middle of the night you're [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► having a piece of pie reading a book but [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► in fact I think those are the greatest [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► experiences and that we should also seek [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► out that kind of thing because what what [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► where the thing that that replaces is [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► not sitting around carving a turkey with [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► your family and friends it replaces [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► sitting in front of a TV watching [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► garbage in the middle of the night you [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► know to to replace tell to replace [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► solitary television watching with any [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► other thing is a is a net improvement to [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► replace solitary television watching [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► with a walk around the block to replace [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► solitary television watching with a [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► cigarette out on the back porch [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► shivering in your nightgown is like [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► ultimately I think better for our [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► spirits then then just that that passive [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► TV I I and particularly sitting in a [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► restaurant in the middle of the night [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► and read writing in your journal on [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► having a piece of pie and a cup of [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► coffee [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► I mean those are the those are moments i [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► really cherish and that and and and that [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► that whole like I'm dining by myself yes [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► it is a table for one yes [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► like that's the thing I'm I i I'm I'm [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► always very proud in those moments like [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► I am it is a table for one sir [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► bring me a pie and coffee ravu and and [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► people's of people are are embarrassed [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► to dine by themselves like gas but i [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► think it's i think dining by yourself as [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► the ultimate power move especially if [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► you have a book you know when someone [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► you going somewhere you just want to get [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► me on they say just one [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► yeah I say [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► yes 10 know i like i like myself I like [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► going to the movies by myself going to [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► the movies by yourself is the best yeah [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► but i think you're right i think people [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► that reads as lonely [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► well I and I really feel like I feel [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► like those moments I mean not to be 22 [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► like late eighties early nineties um [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► like cherish yourself culture but what I [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► really do miss the fact that ability to [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► feel like shit up the chairs yourself [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► era of like you remember when the baby [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► boomers really really first started just [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► to realize that they were they still [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► didn't believe they were gonna die but [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► they did start to did start to their [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► hair started to fall out and now they [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► were the worst they couldn't see I [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► remember the last words realize they [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► were gonna die before they realized all [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► that slightly Robinson and that's the [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► thing that they were and that's when [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► they went through their big like we need [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► to cherish ourselves we every moment is [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► precious like all of that and of course [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► you and I were 20 25 years younger than [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► they were and and being given this [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► information like cherish ourselves [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► I hate myself yeah I hate myself as God [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► intended wooden cherish my sufficient [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► yeah but now I'm starting to see like [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► you know what there are it is you don't [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► have to buy something expensive [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► cherishing yourself is just taking [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► yourself to the fucking movies [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► well I i don't want to sound defensive [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► as somebody who enjoys watching [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► extremely good TV and movies and so are [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► no no you are curating your way might my [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► taste is outstanding [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► it's incredible you should have there [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► should be there should be an Amazon that [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► is just things that Merlin likes it's [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► pretty good idea and I used to be one I [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► could do that [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► ah I i think i think people are just a [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► lot of people don't say that they're [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► scared of being alone i will say i think [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► people are uncomfortable being seen [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► being alone and I think that we kind of [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► are meant to feel badly about ourselves [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► if we're in public by ourselves like [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► unless you're going to get a pap smear [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► or abortion [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► it's alright i always offer my services [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► to take women to their pap smears to be [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► yelling at Lincoln smear buddy [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► yeah you just you know you don't wanna [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► go do that by yourself I'll go with you [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► to your smear you know what's it like [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► you do that's a super nice thing [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► somebody who's just there just there you [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► can sit there you can read a fishing [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► magazine in the in the lobby while it's [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► happening [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► I've got going with some friends to [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► their abortions and sat in the sat in [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► the armored lobby with every other woman [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► in the place really really glaring [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► coming up being folds song yourself [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► glaring at me while I read women's wear [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► daily and because that is a thing where [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► you need a you really do need a friend [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► and often the culprit is not a friend [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► well I i was what's that saying ladies [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► who get abortions or lonely just think [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► that we're supposed to feel like a [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► know-it-all again this is just well [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► there's another part of this which is [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► that suburban culture which is like when [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► I was a kid if you want to go to dennys [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► you would get in a car and drive to [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► dennys like why is there a 19 year old [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► kid who is driven to dennys in the [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► middle of the night [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► now if you wanna go in it go out and get [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► a kebab at four in the morning there's a [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► pretty good chance you could walk there [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► in 10-15 minutes huge difference it's [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► one reason i put up with so much horse [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► shit in this stupid town i live in is [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► because it is pretty walkable and pretty [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► you know public transit apple and and [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► given that I'm advancing in years and [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► and don't need to go out and in the [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► middle of the night is actually make [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► school drop off the next morning kind of [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► hard [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► still I i like that that's I like the e [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► I can walk places i don't like having to [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► get a car I I despise having to get in a [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► car to go somewhere and do a thing and [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► then drive back i did that for so many [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► years and it just became in Florida [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► that's what we did not touch this when [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► we want to go buy records with try to [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► tampa florida to my records we have to [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► drive 40 minutes to buy records and and [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► now like like today that seems I [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► understand why that's the way it is but [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► it's kind of a bummer [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► yeah well and and you're talking about [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► my life now because because as I've said [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► before like the one thing that I the one [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► thing that I failed to take into [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► consideration when I bought my house was [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► that I would have to drive a night then [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► that i did not like [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► I love to drive for sport [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► I hate to drive out of necessity [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► same thing here yeah and you really [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► there's I don't want to provide [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► triangulation oh that's all right they [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► all know where I live big together [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► putting supertrain stickers on all my [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► stop signs now creepy is that there's [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► that one weird little shop near you [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► which is useless you totally useless [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► they don't have half and half [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► you don't happen to have all this extra [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► correctly you would cool do I get [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► lottery tickets do i remember correctly [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► they didn't know what half and half was [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► we never heard of it [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► never heard of it wasn't interested in [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► learning about it was like it comes out [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► of a cow but you know you're a good [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► driver you like to drive and you're not [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► drinking and stuff so you going like I [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► love to drive but the problem is that [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► the problem is everybody wants to have a [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► fucking meeting and they all want to [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► have fucking meetings on the other side [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► of town so i'm always have a day that is [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► a half day just like you had that you [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► have to have a meeting I don't have a [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► meeting I just send me the just send me [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► the the liner notes in the PowerPoint [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► yeah like what what what are we talking [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► about here is there something I can say [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► yes or no to but no it's a it's a it's a [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► freaking meeting you gotta be there and [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► so I'm in the car and-and-and and the [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► traffic is so capricious like 1130 on a [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► wednesday it takes me five minutes to [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► get to town 1130 the next day honor [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► absolutely same conditions and it's [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► stop-and-go traffic for an hour [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► that makes me insane it's just crazy [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► making and and so I so I look at my eye [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► look at my house and I'm like I want to [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► live here i want to fix this house up I [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► want to I can see myself living here for [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► 20 years it's a it's a my mortgage [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► payment is inexpensive have a lot of [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► property i got room to grow [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► I got plenty of room here i can ever i [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► can have a room just to practice the [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► viola as John Hodgman describes his his [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► his childhood home he said there was a [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► room in my house where they all purpose [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► of the room was for me to practice the [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► old [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► and an idea and i like that i admire [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► that of the old practice room so but I [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► am consigning myself to this drive this [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► this drive or to being like a like a [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► weird hermit the internet does not [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► provide me i cannot be a person who just [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► sits and looks on the internet I just [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► can't do it [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► you sure about that doesn't include your [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► phone [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► happy well fucking see you you act like [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► you're some cat lady sitting there with [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► your pc but you to a lot did I i I've [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► been having have been having some very [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► strong feelings lately Merlin empty that [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► the internet in particular the internet [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► that I let live in which is the Twitter [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► net and that expanded kind of into the [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► Instagram met with a with like a Hail [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► Mary pass once a week to the Facebook [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► net that this world is now greatly [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► diminished from what it was a year ago [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► and I know that you be an early adopter [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► of all these technologies have already [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► felt sympathetic I've already felt the [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► great sorrow of help much worse it is [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► that it was but you know i am i am one [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► of those people who actually has a [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► career that he is like I'm trying to [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► provide as you know top-shelf free [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► content yet I I would never do that but [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► but i'm also trying to like the twitter [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► is the only way I have to tell people [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► that I'm playing a show and playing a [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► show is the only way I have to connect [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► with people outside of Twitter and I've [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► noticed just recently like I'm trying to [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► promote things and facebook has put up [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► all those firewalls where your posts no [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► longer go to your friends here I've [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► heard about this it sounds really weird [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► it's the worst it's just like oh you [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► have you have 5,000 friends and when [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► using like five people could look at a [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► page and see different things [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► well what happens is you know their [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► timeline is going by and Facebook used [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► to put my little tweets [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► in the timeline of everybody that [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► follows me everybody that friends me or [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► whatever but then Facebook realized [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► people like me were promoting their [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► shows by sending out facebook i mean not [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► not like private messages or anything [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► but but just just tweeting about it or [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► just facebooking about it and now [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► Facebook takes like seventy percent of [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► your friends [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► it just doesn't show them all your posts [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► it yeah how does it decide it just [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► randomly decides and it says if you want [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► all your posts to go to all your friends [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► it costs you Mandy nine dollars are you [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► kidding me i'm not kidding is sel this [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► is how they're trying to make money play [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► and so I started missing out on the head [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► I know so I here for people all the time [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► that somebody take care of me the other [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► day they were like I used to love your [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► facebook posts why did you stop and I [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► said I didn't stop facebook just stopped [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► showing them to you the pictures got [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► small and they're like really huh don't [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► think that's the thing nobody knows [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► about it so so but i'm noticing like I [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► send out a thing that used to generate a [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► lot of interest and I used to feel like [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► oh the internet is a comfortable place [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► for me now i have transitioned away from [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► needing magazines to write about my band [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► i can just write about my own band and [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► and promote myself but in the [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► intervening 45 years since I've been on [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► Twitter everybody in the world [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► he's trying to promote their cat videos [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► and no one has any attention span for [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► nobody has any nobody I mean nobody goes [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► and reads their twitter feed anymore [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► your facebook feed is all gamed and i'm [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► and and I no longer feel like I am [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► effectively communicating with people [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► that want to find ya people that are [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► listening to our podcast are doing it [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► because they are they have drank the [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► kool-aid they are ruined forever and [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► like they just sit pulling on their [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► fingers and waiting for more information [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► but the but the majority of Michael [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► never i never thought of it that way but [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► the majority of people out there that [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► i'm trying to reach that are just like [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► normal ticket buyers and people that [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► have not yet but the people that it's [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► like tasted smelled the kool-aid but [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► haven't had a taste of it yet [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► like those people at it's just getting [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► lost in the adjust the people i follow [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► I mean just adjust pollen storms [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► kickstarters are taking up [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► three-quarters of my twitter feed [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► like people are everybody everybody [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► wants your attention everybody is asking [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► for money everybody is making a new [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► thing that they're very excited about [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► and there is no distinction between me [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► who makes things professionally and the [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► guy next door who makes things to keep [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► the demon dogs from from filling his [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► head with screaming and howling and his [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► promoted the MVP is nine dollars to [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► facebook everybody sees his post so i [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► put so anyway I'm feeling like oh the [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► internet it's it has legitimately moved [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► on from i mean i remember when i joined [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► twitter you and your olds cadres were [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► already like Twitter's dead brother's [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► dead it used to be so great but now I [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► really do feel like there is no what [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► what seemed like you could run an [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► economy you could run a business this [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► way [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► it's all gone it'sit's ebbing and I [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► don't know what the next thing that are [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► do we go back to blogging yeah do I [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► design an app could do I design at doing [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► the design an app that every time I fart [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► in a glass it goes onto your phone it's [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► pretty good it's a lot of farming [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► because she's somebody prototype that [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► our class but the FR t GLS up our class [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► that coo i'll get too lonely sandwich [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► should do a promotional video [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► good luck is busy i well I have a lot of [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► thoughts on this [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► yes none of them are interesting but [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► i'll give you a couple cookies [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► well i mean well first of all it's funny [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► that like you would like look at that [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► cat video guy and now like you know you [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► like and hey like I'm John Roderick and [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► like I actually make stuff well it's [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► funny because like five or eight years [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► ago you know you were the underdog [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► uh-huh whereas you know there's the big [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► companies out there that are like buying [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► the ads and in rolling stone and there [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► was these all these bands during the [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► skunkworks thing and they were the [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► underdogs but it's funny to me today [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► a you know relatively successful [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► independent artist could look at the cat [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► video people and see like a you're [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► eating up my plate like what's let's [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► look at this you're not you're not not [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► releasing records what you doing how [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► dare you [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► hey listen if I'm going to sustain this [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► not releasing records career i mean it [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► all the bandwidth i can get also i would [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► just like to say it is completely insane [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► to use a service that doesn't do what [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► you expected like Facebook I don't [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► interface because who cares but you know [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► eventually you will all not care as much [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► as I don't care and you'll be so much [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► happier but you know it just seems so [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► weird to me like it seems like Facebook [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► is predicated on this weird shell game [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► about expectations [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► it seems strange to me that you would [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► like regardless of whatever their model [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► is that you would post stuff that would [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► appear somewhere like that you need [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► don't know which or win that's so that [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► sounds like the definition of madness to [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► me this is what's confusing i guess [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► what's confusing is that I had a brief [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► moment there where being pithy [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► with no expectations generated interest [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► created and all right there was an [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► audience for it and I was like well [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► that's all you you and I and all of our [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► friends have ever wanted is like can we [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► get paid to just hang out and have to [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► hang out in a Chinese restaurant and and [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► and and just talk funny about uh about [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► rock'n'roll isn't that it isn't a dream [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► job though it's all we ever wanted and [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► there was a brief moment there where [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► like we were basically all hang out in [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► chinese restaurant talking about [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► rock'n'roll and it generated an audience [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► and 404 and I was stupid enough to think [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► like this is this will last and so now [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► I'm yeah I'm back into the like oh shit [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► i'm going to make something I gotta make [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► something that like that I gotta make [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► something that's bit that that rises up [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► above the din so I mean I'm sympathetic [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► sign you know I hate to admit it but I [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► feel the same way I I don't check in on [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► my twitter timeline like I used to now i [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► will kind of guy I am like beyond okay [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► to just let the whole thing go by and [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► I'll pop in a couple times a week and go [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► home clean favorite favorite that let [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► you know and like oh that's funny re 22 [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► or whatever down the a no longer you [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► know if I'm going to San Francisco all i [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► do is i tweet i'm going to San Francisco [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► see you guys there with the assumption [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► that all my friends are watching my [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► Twitter to see what i'm doing and then [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► when i get to san francisco my choirs [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► everybody and then I realize oh nobody [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► is watching Twitter anymore nobody is [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► nobody and and i don't i have not either [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► gone back to actually texting emailing [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► my actual friends or figured out a new [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► way to me that was what Twitter was [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► originally designed to do right so good [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► yeah I'm I'm there's anything that [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► Twitter was for that was kind of it i'm [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► at this bar tonight you know and all [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► your friends would see it right and that [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► gets me the second point which is a can [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► be frustrating because it's more of a [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► story statement of the problem but [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► when my mom bought a house we were when [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► i was ten and she did something that was [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► really really strange my mom and [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► immediately but it's all the dirty [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► thoughts were inside she she did [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► something that was very strange by my [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► mom standards we know we had a very we [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► didn't have a lot of dough but she did [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► one of those weird single mom things [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► that still seems really strange but and [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► yet very interesting which was that like [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► we didn't even have we don't have a [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► touch-tone phone but we had an office [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► phone like a business phone in our [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► kitchen so on the wall in our kitchen we [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► had a phone and it had a whole button [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► and it had you know what you think about [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► this remember those old phones we get [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► the one left to get the hold button and [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► then you get the first line second line [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► and so on the room and member of lines [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► hold line is the hold button is red and [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► yeah exactly and I wasn't white [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► yeah in in 1976 we had a home line and a [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► business line which is like like you [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► could see somebody like fancy having [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► that but this is our [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► twenty-thousand-dollar house and [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► Cincinnati my mom had this she had a [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► personal line and a business line and it [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► was such an interesting idea because you [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► know for her real estate business if [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► anybody needed to call her losses of [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► course years and years before mobile [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► phones [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► what they call her that she had her work [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► number and she had this like home [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► business number and they were very [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► different rules i was never ever to use [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► that the business line for stuff because [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► that's not what it was for you and your [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► kind of like that that seems so exotic [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► to me like you think about being think [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► about how you are when you're 10 years [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► old and the idea of like having the [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► phone in your kitchen have a whole [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► button nobody had that when we were kids [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► absolutely unheard of [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► and the problem is like your twitter is [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► like eight different doesn't have a [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► whole button it but it does have like it [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► should have numerous white buttons but [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► it's really just one big white button so [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► yeah using right you're using it to talk [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► to your friends you're using it to be [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► funny to strangers [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► you're using it to promote your business [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► you are using it to talk about politics [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► and sometimes you're using it to bitch [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► about how the door on the plane just [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► closed and you know all the people who [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► follow you are seeing theoretically all [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► of those and so you know part of what [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► made it so great was it well it is so [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► simple i mean the rules of Twitter are [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► just wonderfully simple but I think [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► you're running up against what a lot of [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► people don't run up against look how do [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► you how can you be a real person on [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► there with just that one big white [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► button but that that integration of all [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► those different realms was was the [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► primary revolution for me because before [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► that you know the challenge I always [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► felt was my songs are a place the where [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► I'm where I'm very passionate and I [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► write about my feelings and I read about [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► girls and I read about being [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► disappointed and I write about being you [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► know lonely and scared they are not [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► especially funny songs they aren't [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► especially they're not political songs [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► they aren't you know that and and I [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► always felt like when my songs were my [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► only ambassador to the world that I had [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► all this other pent-up energy and desire [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► to be understood and unlike a lot of my [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► peers I mean a lot of the guys I know [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► just like I don't like doing interviews [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► LOL the song speak from you know the [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► songs will speak for themselves and I [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► was absolutely opposite i was like [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► please give me an interview so i can [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► contextualize this music in a in the [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► larger picture of like how I see the [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► world and Twitter was the first time I [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► had I had access to people who were [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► interested in my songs and wanted to [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► know more [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► where I could just speak directly across [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► 80 and and yes get into fights with [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► hilton hotels and yes talk about things [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► late at night and make jokes you know [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► and and that integration that one button [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► was like I felt like Oh finally I didn't [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► want I didn't want my songs to be this [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► separate realm because everytime [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► everytime i would read a review about my [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► music where they're like well this guy [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► obviously doesn't know how words work [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► he's his music is just you know he's [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► just throwing random words and a a [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► dartboard [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► I was like you fucking idiot how can use [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► I mean how could you listen to my music [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► and think that and ever since twitter i [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► have felt very confident that even a [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► cursory search if you are interested in [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► the long winters a cursory search will [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► will deliver a person to a place where [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► the whole spectrum is at least available [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► to see and the idea that that I would [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► have to start cutting that up again and [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► say like because you know i own at the [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► long winters and at long winters I have [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► those Twitter accounts and I've never [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► used either one of them I wanted them so [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► nobody else would take them but I didn't [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► want to have a band account that was [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► just like coming to your town [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► well is that there's a there's like that [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► let's be honest it's a there's a [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► strategic reason for not doing that you [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► you rather your good friend mr. Hodgman [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► about wanting to convert his Twitter [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► following into a tumblr following yeah [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► but that that Nina which when you when [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► you're as likely that's what you're [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► talking about here is like I i have like [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► probably 15 different twitter handles [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► for different things but there's not [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► much point to it because for whatever [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► inexplicable reason fake hotdogs ladies [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► oh I'm a lot of my fake Merlin I'm nice [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► Merlin I don't think I'm fake hotdogs [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► ladies if it's not funny it's not me [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► okay all minor funny yeah and not [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► updated as you do but I but you know I [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► could do that but you know that the the [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► percentage of people who would go and [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► follow that particular thing would be [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► far less than 1% of the following that I [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► get with this this one that's already [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► been sort of established or whatever and [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► so I mean there's a business reason for [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► not doing that but also everything you [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► described right there that would work [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► not to get all malcolm gladwell that [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► would work up to 250 or 200 people maybe [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► 500 people depending on how active they [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► were but after that point you have you [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► mean I know you know this but you have [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► to remember that everything you say on [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► there regardless of which mask you're [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► wearing at the time or which persona [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► you're speaking in norwich business [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► you're speaking in service of you know [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► that the person who follows you like the [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► extremely small number of people who [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► follow you because of your politics is [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► I'm super sorry for now for now but I [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► mean all the people who would follow [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► along because of some squirrely [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► political belief you have could care [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► less about whether you can't take care [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► less who you're playing with tonight [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► yeah i mean like why are you talking [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► more about this thing that I like you [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► know that's the problem is that like it [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► but we will act surprised when that [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► happens well it's like we deliberately [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► you know created this one place we could [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► find out all of these things but then we [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► seem really confused that people want [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► different things out of it and write its [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► i agree with you it's just that it got [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► big and like we had the curse of this [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► thing becoming bigger than we expected [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► and then it didn't so I mean like I [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► personally I've made my peace with that [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► like to me it's just a funny joke [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► platform it's likely place for like I [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► talked about too many intricate details [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► of my life because it doesn't scale [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► right but you are developing a new [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► platform somewhere where you can talk [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► about comic books I i hear the rumble [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► and line I hear the rumblings in the [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► streets [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► I i know that you cannot continue to not [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► have a place to talk about comic books [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► platform i caught a bus stop and so I [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► mean you're absolutely right i would not [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► the only reason the only built there are [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► only five people in the world that [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► really want to hear every single thing I [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► say until they were you what tumor me [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► one of them is my mom and then two other [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► you know and then two stalkers [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► you know and then two stalkers [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► but uh Ben and I know that because like [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► I follow a lot of my friends and and [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► there and every one of them has a place [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► in their in their core interests where I [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► go oh my god not this again but at the [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► same time like I that desire to be a to [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► be an integrated person and to take your [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► to take your party to the world like I [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► mean and at i guess that i guess the [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► reason that television or or radio or [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► books or I'll have any media is is such [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► a narrow aperture is that the love of [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► God nobody wants to have everything from [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► from any one person if that I guess a [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► novel or aura like journal writing would [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► be the closest would be the most the [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► closest you could get but you know but [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► you might love love named Norman [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► Mailer's books but you don't want to [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► like be with him like Hitler's paintings [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► but I don't want his recipes Hitler's [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► paintings did I tell you that I went [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► through a phase where I thought maybe I [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► was gonna buy a Hitler painting how I'd [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► love to hear about that I i realized [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► that you can go online it's a dark dark [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► corner of the internet but there is a [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► dealer that specializes in Hitler [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► watercolors and they're not they're not [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► his best work all of all of Hitler's [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► great you know like big full-size [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► canvases i'll probably probably [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► destroyed him [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► no no no they are they are held in [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► private collections through they are [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► really surprised the Allies would let [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► those live well this is the thing that [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► they are i mean there is this [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► there is this world of people that [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► collect fucked up shit and Hitler [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► paintings is one of those things where [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► you don't publicize it it's not a thing [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► that you can really be above ground [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► about [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► but there are people that have big [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► Hitler paintings on the wall and their [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► value is at least right now their value [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► is still very curious and you know what [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► I mean like it isn't it's still not okay [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► to have a Hitler painting now maybe a [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► hundred years like I mean Jane Mansfield [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► scarf or something it's something or you [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► know at games car the our worst like [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► owning jayne mansfield's tooth you know [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► where it's like what how did you get [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► that oh well I kind of can't talk about [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► it but it's you know like here's jayne [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► mansfield's tooth because during her [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► autopsy like some unscrupulous doctor [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► pulled it and sold it to a guy like I [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► hit but a Hitler Hitler painting and I [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► and I believe that there will come a [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► time when when when those are I mean [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► because like a painting by Napoleon or [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► even a painting by tom who's like a who [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► is a dastardly person from history [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► that's been dead long john wayne gacy [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► well but even Gacy paintings like that [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► you can utilize that was an industry he [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► did and the people that own Gacy [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► paintings are a particular type of [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► roller derby boyfriend know that makes [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► you have but that's like the this those [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► people have although the research you [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► know modern primitive books on their [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► shows and Danny and they think that [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► their that they're edgy better like a [TS]