Roderick on the Line

Ep. 42: "Your Hands Would Be Your Passport"


00:00:00   hello hi John [TS]

00:00:06   hi Marilyn that's going [TS]

00:00:10   mmm-mmm-mmm still like yours better [TS]

00:00:16   I've heard that in a while all bomb 20 [TS]

00:00:23   well I with John Roderick and he's on [TS]

00:00:28   lunch today [TS]

00:00:31   that's pretty good although i'm not sure [TS]

00:00:33   like what the shit splat sound that will [TS]

00:00:36   be the baby they are not John go John [TS]

00:00:40   Roderick way two people loves is a new [TS]

00:00:44   wave parodies with fart jokes [TS]

00:00:46   mmm i just recently signed them to stop [TS]

00:00:49   saying that no my god i got it just it's [TS]

00:00:52   one of those jokes that nobody gets but [TS]

00:00:54   us and once we're dead [TS]

00:00:55   there will be no one left i can think of [TS]

00:00:57   at least one and possibly two of our [TS]

00:00:59   supposed listeners who I think will get [TS]

00:01:01   they may not think it's funny but I'll [TS]

00:01:03   get it [TS]

00:01:03   you're right you're right i can think of [TS]

00:01:04   at least one who will get it and think [TS]

00:01:06   it's funny i selected his band name [TS]

00:01:08   I know today is not it's not my python [TS]

00:01:12   joke it's a yahoo the other is the music [TS]

00:01:14   guy from the Rutles what's-his-name you [TS]

00:01:18   know I mean Neil Innes illness it's [TS]

00:01:21   annie lennox banjo right no one has been [TS]

00:01:23   junk haha what is the catalog you know [TS]

00:01:29   it's better you know it'll get a lot of [TS]

00:01:31   people think a lot of people let's be [TS]

00:01:32   honest a lot of a lot of people don't [TS]

00:01:34   think though who you know what let's [TS]

00:01:36   circle back to that a lot of people [TS]

00:01:37   think Monty Python joke is pretty nerdy [TS]

00:01:39   but I think Neil Innes joke is sublime [TS]

00:01:42   it's very it's very deep like riddles [TS]

00:01:45   that you ever see that rubble spooning [TS]

00:01:46   it was the thing with the Reynolds who [TS]

00:01:48   hey I i don't know about you but in this [TS]

00:01:52   in the late seventies I got a lot of my [TS]

00:01:55   early music from the the one-dollar LP [TS]

00:01:59   rack who cut out that at the drugstore [TS]

00:02:02   and you know my mom would go to the [TS]

00:02:05   drugstore because she needed to buy some [TS]

00:02:07   a sum like [TS]

00:02:10   that rubbing alcohol and some band-aids [TS]

00:02:14   and the drugstore was always a thing as [TS]

00:02:18   a kid where I mean even now as an adult [TS]

00:02:21   I walk into the drugstore I'm like what [TS]

00:02:22   are all these Isles what what are all [TS]

00:02:24   these things are they splints are people [TS]

00:02:26   buying like like face masks and stuff [TS]

00:02:29   here what why does the drugstore need so [TS]

00:02:31   many hours I know you go to the [TS]

00:02:32   drugstore all the time maybe you can [TS]

00:02:34   help me with twice a day but so i would [TS]

00:02:36   go to the drugstore and there was a big [TS]

00:02:37   selection of of dollar LLP's and that's [TS]

00:02:41   where i got Frank's at Frank Zappa's [TS]

00:02:44   orchestral record as recorded by the [TS]

00:02:47   London Philharmonic and that's where I [TS]

00:02:49   cod a Neil Young and Crazy Horse's [TS]

00:02:53   reactor a record i still listen to and [TS]

00:02:57   that set that set quite comfortably next [TS]

00:03:00   to the gene Simmons solo record for [TS]

00:03:01   about forty two years that's right 99 [TS]

00:03:03   cents everyone you were never in your [TS]

00:03:05   life never more than a quarter mile away [TS]

00:03:06   from the cut copy of reactor yeah [TS]

00:03:08   reactor still out there that's where i [TS]

00:03:11   got Terrapin station by the Grateful [TS]

00:03:14   Dead I think Machinehead by deep purple [TS]

00:03:17   i found one time in the 99-cent rack so [TS]

00:03:21   while my friends were buying foreign or [TS]

00:03:22   four and Billy the Squires emotions in [TS]

00:03:27   motion [TS]

00:03:28   I was hopeless thing to machine head and [TS]

00:03:33   reactor and wondering why I was out of [TS]

00:03:36   step with my peers but one of the [TS]

00:03:38   records that i bought at that on the [TS]

00:03:40   99-cent racket that at the bartells [TS]

00:03:42   drugs was the Rutles album which I [TS]

00:03:46   thought from the you know a lot of these [TS]

00:03:49   things i just bought because of the [TS]

00:03:51   cover and walking ago I look so good [TS]

00:03:54   yeah like you walk in there with a copy [TS]

00:03:56   of trouser press you know you're gonna [TS]

00:03:58   you're gonna take some chances and it's [TS]

00:03:59   only a buck it's 1969 you know so i [TS]

00:04:03   bought us about the rebels record and I [TS]

00:04:06   mean I was at the at the beginning of [TS]

00:04:08   what became a lifetime people's [TS]

00:04:10   obsession [TS]

00:04:11   and-and-and but you know what it was i [TS]

00:04:15   discovered the Rutles before i [TS]

00:04:17   discovered Monty Python wow that's weird [TS]

00:04:20   i know so the rebels were [TS]

00:04:23   the rebels were the gateway to monty [TS]

00:04:25   python rather than the other way around [TS]

00:04:27   and so nice Thai definitely struggled at [TS]

00:04:30   first to understand every all the [TS]

00:04:34   nuances it was it before you were really [TS]

00:04:36   into the beatles I was getting into the [TS]

00:04:38   beat so a lot of it must have seemed a [TS]

00:04:40   little nuanced it was we know because [TS]

00:04:42   until I was 10 years old my [TS]

00:04:44   understanding of music was that count [TS]

00:04:47   that count basie was a contemporary [TS]

00:04:48   artist but however its innovative I [TS]

00:04:51   can't do that if you're in Paris the [TS]

00:04:54   only pop records that we had were eight [TS]

00:04:57   track tapes and they were Jackson 5's [TS]

00:05:00   greatest hits and a studio 54 a the [TS]

00:05:06   disco compilation and I Simon and [TS]

00:05:11   Garfunkel's bridge over troubled water [TS]

00:05:12   and the beatles revolver those were the [TS]

00:05:13   four pop 8-track tapes we had so up [TS]

00:05:19   until I was ten like that was the only [TS]

00:05:22   exposure i had to music that was not [TS]

00:05:24   being played on a clarinet I my god [TS]

00:05:29   that's brutal did you feel relieved [TS]

00:05:31   well I had all that stuff memorized [TS]

00:05:33   their nets in excess can be rough [TS]

00:05:35   tell you what but it was it was when I [TS]

00:05:38   was in fifth or sixth grade and started [TS]

00:05:39   to meet those kids that that that that [TS]

00:05:43   feathered their hair with a with a giant [TS]

00:05:46   plastic comb that they carried in their [TS]

00:05:48   back pocket that stuff like six inches [TS]

00:05:49   of above their pants when I started to [TS]

00:05:52   meet those kids that were a little bit [TS]

00:05:54   rougher and they turned me onto the the [TS]

00:05:58   radio basically they said you don't [TS]

00:06:00   listen to the radio you know there was [TS]

00:06:02   those the heyday of album-oriented rock [TS]

00:06:03   and so they said you know you need to [TS]

00:06:06   listen to what what was at the time in [TS]

00:06:08   Anchorage 10 2.5 the the rock station [TS]

00:06:11   and the the first this kid was over at [TS]

00:06:14   my house and he's like I had my right [TS]

00:06:16   and my radio i did i did have a clock [TS]

00:06:18   radio but it was set to the station [TS]

00:06:20   I think maybe my mom found a radio [TS]

00:06:23   station when she put the group the clock [TS]

00:06:26   in my room and it was just always on [TS]

00:06:28   there i didn't i guess i didn't I was [TS]

00:06:30   not one of those kids that looked at a [TS]

00:06:31   radio and thought turn the knobs [TS]

00:06:34   I was a kid that looked at the radio and [TS]

00:06:36   went knobs and we eat just listen to [TS]

00:06:39   whatever came on [TS]

00:06:40   well so she turned to to the radio [TS]

00:06:42   station that played like seals and [TS]

00:06:47   Crofts and that was that was that era of [TS]

00:06:51   of like what [TS]

00:06:53   asia maybe a little bit priagent what [TS]

00:06:57   was that what how would you describe [TS]

00:06:58   that music like my yacht rock sort of [TS]

00:07:00   like super soft drop ya damn and/or [TS]

00:07:04   Christopher Cross Christopher Cross [TS]

00:07:06   there was a period where there was a lot [TS]

00:07:07   of very gentle so gentle so gentle it [TS]

00:07:10   was like it was like petting a rabbit's [TS]

00:07:13   vagina [TS]

00:07:16   yeah now you could not have mentioned it [TS]

00:07:19   that sounds really oddly appealing know [TS]

00:07:21   what I mean like I find it so comforting [TS]

00:07:22   rabbit and you're just like pad skipper [TS]

00:07:25   habit to that the rabbits happy you're [TS]

00:07:27   happy [TS]

00:07:28   yeah and then this friend came over he [TS]

00:07:29   that he was wearing his baseball hat on [TS]

00:07:32   backwards before that was even a thing [TS]

00:07:33   and he had a giant comb in his back [TS]

00:07:36   pocket and feathered hair and a puka [TS]

00:07:38   shell necklace he was like why you [TS]

00:07:39   listening to this crap any tune he just [TS]

00:07:41   wants obtain the radio and the first [TS]

00:07:44   thing that came on i am the walrus [TS]

00:07:47   oh ok on the radio on the radio and I [TS]

00:07:49   was like what is this in seen music and [TS]

00:07:54   he said are you kidding me it's the [TS]

00:07:55   Beatles I thought that first time I [TS]

00:07:57   heard that I thought it was so scary [TS]

00:07:59   it was totally terrifying particularly [TS]

00:08:01   since I thought I understood the beatles [TS]

00:08:03   I've been listening to revolver I got [TS]

00:08:05   that was one of you knows one of my [TS]

00:08:07   favorite records right up there with you [TS]

00:08:09   know Count Basie's jumping at the [TS]

00:08:11   Woodside and and this this music comes [TS]

00:08:15   on the scene scene music and I just [TS]

00:08:18   stared at the radio like I'm [TS]

00:08:20   comprehending and and and completely it [TS]

00:08:23   just transformed me in and in a moment [TS]

00:08:25   you know just as it just as it would [TS]

00:08:28   have done to somebody 10 years earlier [TS]

00:08:30   in 1968 this is 1978 and I was like mind [TS]

00:08:37   blown [TS]

00:08:38   instantly blow [TS]

00:08:40   so they make you to make you curious for [TS]

00:08:42   more well yeah then I immediately went [TS]

00:08:44   and you could you could talk about you [TS]

00:08:47   talk about the Blue Album you could get [TS]

00:08:49   the blue album and the red album also at [TS]

00:08:52   the drugstore that those were 599 those [TS]

00:08:55   were not one dollar records that was [TS]

00:08:57   that was a pricier but it was a double [TS]

00:08:59   album and i bought them immediately and [TS]

00:09:03   then I was basically all I listen to you [TS]

00:09:07   until you know my first my first [TS]

00:09:09   teaching those albums which you know I [TS]

00:09:11   knew there was at my cousins were five [TS]

00:09:13   and ten years older than me and so [TS]

00:09:15   they're really into the beatles and [TS]

00:09:17   enjoyed this is never touch you [TS]

00:09:18   inappropriately not not to my mind I was [TS]

00:09:21   that it was all appropriate far as I was [TS]

00:09:23   concerned was a good good i'm gonna say [TS]

00:09:25   that's how it is in your family [TS]

00:09:26   ok so that's how it is in there was a [TS]

00:09:30   ferris bueller that's a little Ferris [TS]

00:09:32   Bueller reference for some of the sort [TS]

00:09:34   of young people remember her knees roush [TS]

00:09:37   the female lead the girl belongs here [TS]

00:09:42   and off [TS]

00:09:42   yes everybody's she had one really cute [TS]

00:09:46   knees i have to say that admit we may [TS]

00:09:49   have discussed Susanna Hoffs earlier in [TS]

00:09:50   the back in episode which ID gentleman [TS]

00:09:53   about it but I felt I always felt like a [TS]

00:09:56   like Sloan she just wasn't my type she's [TS]

00:10:00   too skinny [TS]

00:10:00   oh my god she was like she wasn't my [TS]

00:10:03   type because she was unattainable she's [TS]

00:10:05   very cute i have to admit it mentioned [TS]

00:10:08   in my ad Diane Court pile here like the [TS]

00:10:11   girl from The Wonder Years [TS]

00:10:12   oh well Whitney with me you know she has [TS]

00:10:16   math things that she teaches kids math [TS]

00:10:18   sections asking that she doesn't mapping [TS]

00:10:20   google any sexy math I i will not only [TS]

00:10:25   am I gonna try googling I'm gonna put it [TS]

00:10:26   in my broom my menu bar i'm gonna put on [TS]

00:10:29   my special place might my cousins have [TS]

00:10:31   been really into the beatles they had [TS]

00:10:32   never and remember this bed on the floor [TS]

00:10:35   idioms it there Ohioans oh no one in [TS]

00:10:38   Florida listen to the beatles right now [TS]

00:10:40   but used to be back in the day so my [TS]

00:10:42   cousin my eldest cousin is 10 years [TS]

00:10:45   older than me i had an original copy of [TS]

00:10:47   the white album with serial number and [TS]

00:10:48   everything and he had the forefoot [TS]

00:10:50   working with the four photographs of [TS]

00:10:52   then I like onyx photographs on his door [TS]

00:10:54   so you know I've been around the [TS]

00:10:55   Whitehall looks like a milk cow [TS]

00:10:58   well I think that's maybe one of the [TS]

00:10:59   classic john lennon pictures i mean he [TS]

00:11:01   he just looks so John Lennon it is but [TS]

00:11:04   you know I I hate that look on John you [TS]

00:11:07   don't like always get along here I'm a [TS]

00:11:08   sergeant pepper John guy everything from [TS]

00:11:12   everything from rubber sole to sergeant [TS]

00:11:14   pepper I think he looks amazing and then [TS]

00:11:16   he started growing his hair long he just [TS]

00:11:18   looks like Williams photographs when [TS]

00:11:19   they're recording rubber soul especially [TS]

00:11:21   revolver and Paul had the glasses [TS]

00:11:23   no she has man they are they are up [TS]

00:11:26   there they're like Chet Baker buddy [TS]

00:11:27   holly like they're up there in the wow [TS]

00:11:29   you guys look so cool and you have no [TS]

00:11:31   idea so cool no idea how cool you look [TS]

00:11:33   well this is the thing about the fifties [TS]

00:11:35   and sixties and connect to my records [TS]

00:11:37   were done [TS]

00:11:38   yes you can just go ahead and it's very [TS]

00:11:40   unusual that you are the one who wants [TS]

00:11:42   to return to a story there are stairs [TS]

00:11:43   there's a ceiling I've tried to tell [TS]

00:11:45   three times before finally going to get [TS]

00:11:46   out today but we're three by five card [TS]

00:11:48   here i'm going to write it down we're [TS]

00:11:50   gonna circle back to that and if it's if [TS]

00:11:52   it's bad I can't i'll cut it out up in [TS]

00:11:57   any case any good haha in the fifties [TS]

00:12:03   and sixties they changed car designs [TS]

00:12:07   every year they changed the the fashion [TS]

00:12:12   but like the men's and women's clothing [TS]

00:12:14   fashion designers had a slide rule in [TS]

00:12:16   their pocket every year they and for a [TS]

00:12:19   period of 20 years every year they they [TS]

00:12:22   designed a brand-new car and brand new [TS]

00:12:24   clothes and brand-new everything for for [TS]

00:12:26   the for for a year and that some of the [TS]

00:12:31   best designer in in history some of the [TS]

00:12:33   best Americans industrial design every [TS]

00:12:36   one of those years now you know the [TS]

00:12:38   chrysler sebring has been in production [TS]

00:12:40   since 1989 and all they do is change the [TS]

00:12:43   air freshener and the that you don't [TS]

00:12:46   like right they don't even change the GT [TS]

00:12:49   cars from 5256 and 59 and i'll bet you [TS]

00:12:53   could eyeball with in like a year like [TS]

00:12:56   what your that came out without you take [TS]

00:12:58   night 92 and 96 and 99 forget it now I [TS]

00:13:02   mean they look like tylenol [TS]

00:13:03   when it went in 1985 if you had a 15 [TS]

00:13:07   year old car from 1970 right now think [TS]

00:13:13   about that Vietnam experience they had [TS]

00:13:15   an ltd it was really hard to tell or [TS]

00:13:17   continental it was hard to tell how old [TS]

00:13:19   that was because I mean buicks and old [TS]

00:13:23   all those kinds of cars that my mom had [TS]

00:13:25   an early eighties car that look pretty [TS]

00:13:27   much like a smaller version of a car [TS]

00:13:29   from making 73 [TS]

00:13:30   well yeah that started have that started [TS]

00:13:32   happening in the mid-seventies but I [TS]

00:13:34   mean a big guy like me i can tell you [TS]

00:13:36   the model year of every American car [TS]

00:13:38   from 85 to 92 64 65 Mustang absolutely i [TS]

00:13:43   can see it from across the street [TS]

00:13:44   contrast the grill because the little [TS]

00:13:47   doesn't think the guy at the hexagon [TS]

00:13:48   versus the rectangular grill had a [TS]

00:13:51   friend with a 60 64 and half mustang [TS]

00:13:53   with pony interior [TS]

00:13:54   i SAT an argument voices run across the [TS]

00:13:57   seat John that's very nice i already [TS]

00:14:00   argued with a Danish guy one time about [TS]

00:14:02   the headlight surrounds on a 65 cadillac [TS]

00:14:05   seville versus a 66 cattle and I guess [TS]

00:14:09   that this is a man it was intimidating a [TS]

00:14:12   dane dane it's very similar to when you [TS]

00:14:15   when you when you start a story by [TS]

00:14:16   saying i was at the model train store [TS]

00:14:18   that you don't have to specify your talk [TS]

00:14:21   okay [TS]

00:14:22   who is that the dungeon dice Waterhouse [TS]

00:14:24   was it was the model train store and [TS]

00:14:26   just talking to somebody always a guy I [TS]

00:14:28   was that I was it a steely dan meetup [TS]

00:14:30   haha but anyway yes there's gas in the [TS]

00:14:33   car [TS]

00:14:34   it's 2012 right now could you I mean [TS]

00:14:38   legitimately if you saw a car from 1997 [TS]

00:14:42   would you be able to even place it [TS]

00:14:44   within 10 years of when it was built now [TS]

00:14:46   and i think i started i think there's [TS]

00:14:48   always a five-year what the fuck period [TS]

00:14:50   around most cars and I remember this [TS]

00:14:51   starting do you remember when the [TS]

00:14:53   fucked-up Thunderbirds came out about [TS]

00:14:55   8345 and this is a little cancel it is [TS]

00:14:58   taking that you call them the fucked-up [TS]

00:15:00   Thunderbirds because hate him [TS]

00:15:02   there were so many people who thought [TS]

00:15:04   that would mean that the federal bird [TS]

00:15:05   was the first the first pregnant [TS]

00:15:08   porpoise who it was that it was the [TS]

00:15:11   moment when the cars in America went [TS]

00:15:12   from being a shoe box on top of the shoe [TS]

00:15:14   box [TS]

00:15:15   to being around you like a like a beluga [TS]

00:15:18   whale pumping in the American cars and [TS]

00:15:21   internet the the Nissan's the Toyotas [TS]

00:15:24   started the back over there is one car [TS]

00:15:25   and underground where it looked like an [TS]

00:15:27   ATM machine or our night deposit every [TS]

00:15:29   word or a doorstop something you'd kick [TS]

00:15:31   precisely japanese or stopped up you [TS]

00:15:35   have to get think i had to go pink phone [TS]

00:15:36   for just a minute to take surprised [TS]

00:15:37   they're very surprisingly but then think [TS]

00:15:39   about the thing about the way the music [TS]

00:15:40   and the culture change between 1960 in [TS]

00:15:42   1970 and and think about how the music [TS]

00:15:45   and culture has not changed between 2002 [TS]

00:15:49   and 2012 nights it's staggering I mean [TS]

00:15:51   this is such a cliche but it's still [TS]

00:15:53   just in my head all the time if you take [TS]

00:15:55   the whatever major label period of the [TS]

00:15:57   beatles it's 1963 to 1970 which is like [TS]

00:16:02   2005 till now right which is basically [TS]

00:16:06   the amount of time it's been since I [TS]

00:16:07   last recorded an album is a good record [TS]

00:16:10   my entire that the entire beatles career [TS]

00:16:13   could be fit into the time between the [TS]

00:16:15   labrum from please please me to let it [TS]

00:16:18   be [TS]

00:16:18   well technically to be right technically [TS]

00:16:20   later right [TS]

00:16:22   it was it was it was didn't record let [TS]

00:16:24   it be first they did but you know it's [TS]

00:16:27   all they were done by I think that [TS]

00:16:28   canonical can't let it be you don't [TS]

00:16:31   count let it be [TS]

00:16:32   put it on a card put a bird on it i [TS]

00:16:34   heard i was driving on the on the road [TS]

00:16:36   the other day listening to the radio [TS]

00:16:38   really and you lose up that I thought [TS]

00:16:42   you didn't do that I don't know i'll do [TS]

00:16:44   it sometimes and a tune from let it be [TS]

00:16:47   naked that caused so much better [TS]

00:16:50   well better accept [TS]

00:16:54   except it's basically star wars without [TS]

00:16:58   the soundtrack starts it's basically [TS]

00:17:00   hand shooting second let you know yeah [TS]

00:17:04   you know quickly save this this is a big [TS]

00:17:07   show you know what we're going to do the [TS]

00:17:08   paul mccartney show i will give you one [TS]

00:17:10   track from that record that is [TS]

00:17:12   surprisingly astoundingly better i think [TS]

00:17:14   you know the song ever there's one song [TS]

00:17:16   on there that nobody in the band was [TS]

00:17:19   matter about them especially Paul than [TS]

00:17:20   one particular song because it's so [TS]

00:17:22   fucking over-the-top but if you go back [TS]

00:17:24   into this long when you read which I [TS]

00:17:27   love the films but i love that respect [TS]

00:17:30   it's coming now if you go back and [TS]

00:17:31   listen the original it's like listen to [TS]

00:17:33   Paul play yesterday or something if I [TS]

00:17:34   heard that one first [TS]

00:17:36   sure i would go on my god i get you [TS]

00:17:38   think about yesterday in fact it's so [TS]

00:17:39   unadorned yes is so perfect but you know [TS]

00:17:43   now when I go back I'm in my head I'm [TS]

00:17:45   going bump bump bump bump absolutely i'm [TS]

00:17:49   adding strings in my head I don't care [TS]

00:17:51   ok on base like to not have that in [TS]

00:17:55   there is like yeah okay playing your [TS]

00:17:57   fucking demos yeah okay I but to your [TS]

00:18:00   point okay so I there was a thing I [TS]

00:18:03   think it came on the I think it came [TS]

00:18:06   with the AH the stupid nineties whatever [TS]

00:18:11   when they put out the lose everything [TS]

00:18:12   else we had that you stop pirating by [TS]

00:18:14   this but there was a little maybe it was [TS]

00:18:16   maybe it was on the PBS thing but there [TS]

00:18:18   are these little featurettes they were [TS]

00:18:19   kind of annoying but they were little [TS]

00:18:21   like motion graphic featurettes for each [TS]

00:18:23   record there were like 10 minutes long [TS]

00:18:25   and I could watch the 14 revolver over [TS]

00:18:27   and over just because Paul look so [TS]

00:18:29   fucking cool and just because you've [TS]

00:18:31   never heard the altar i think i sent you [TS]

00:18:33   this [TS]

00:18:33   you heard the two alternate takes well [TS]

00:18:35   there's one an alternative and your bird [TS]

00:18:36   can sing with and without background [TS]

00:18:39   vocals never heard it i use them it's [TS]

00:18:42   really different but you can hear is one [TS]

00:18:44   take when they're trying to add [TS]

00:18:45   harmonies to it and they're so high and [TS]

00:18:49   all they do they cackled with laughter [TS]

00:18:51   John and Paul cackle with laughter [TS]

00:18:53   through the entire take completely [TS]

00:18:55   freely and I swear to God I get sad and [TS]

00:18:58   happy and set every time I listen to it [TS]

00:18:59   like a happy because it's so awesome to [TS]

00:19:02   hear these guys having fun and it's so [TS]

00:19:04   set because you realize there may be [TS]

00:19:06   three more times that [TS]

00:19:07   we're in a room together and didn't want [TS]

00:19:08   to fucking kill each other John was so [TS]

00:19:10   unhappy [TS]

00:19:10   yeah but there's I and laughing [TS]

00:19:13   recording one of my all-time favorite [TS]

00:19:14   song I just think that song is [TS]

00:19:15   astounding [TS]

00:19:16   it's great and I i frankly I have a [TS]

00:19:18   videotape of me in nineteen who wouldn't [TS]

00:19:22   be 1989 trapped in a bathroom at my drug [TS]

00:19:28   dealers house with another friend and [TS]

00:19:31   his cockatiel didn't try to make out [TS]

00:19:35   with you [TS]

00:19:36   no no this was different you really [TS]

00:19:37   understand your second 89 and you're [TS]

00:19:40   trapped in a bathroom with a cockatiel [TS]

00:19:42   not strapped but somehow trapped inside [TS]

00:19:44   you can't get out the UN the birds just [TS]

00:19:46   as stuck as you are oh it wasn't that I [TS]

00:19:48   wasn't that I was trapped but that but [TS]

00:19:50   rather that I had trapped the bird in [TS]

00:19:52   the bathroom [TS]

00:19:53   we were we were we were there where's [TS]

00:19:56   your self and he was he was it was one [TS]

00:19:58   of those it was like right after the [TS]

00:19:59   harvest and the whole every flat surface [TS]

00:20:01   in the house was covered with marijuana [TS]

00:20:03   they were sorting it and clipping it and [TS]

00:20:06   drying it and doing it all the stuff [TS]

00:20:07   that you do when you have a big harvest [TS]

00:20:09   of marijuana and we were there and we [TS]

00:20:12   were so incredibly stoned at a certain [TS]

00:20:18   point and then and of course he's a drug [TS]

00:20:20   dealer right so he has birds [TS]

00:20:22   yeah yeah we get drunk times you have a [TS]

00:20:24   snake or a popular pig or a a tarantula [TS]

00:20:28   or something like that he had a cocktail [TS]

00:20:30   and the bird was just flying freely [TS]

00:20:33   through the house calling Bob Marley [TS]

00:20:34   haha haha [TS]

00:20:38   it is a great bird at a certain point [TS]

00:20:41   I'm very stoned and I start trying to [TS]

00:20:43   catch I want to get the bird and so I'm [TS]

00:20:46   walking around the house of the birds [TS]

00:20:47   can't stay away from me like hopping [TS]

00:20:49   from the lamp to the table and I'm like [TS]

00:20:51   I gotta get the bird is he clipped well [TS]

00:20:54   no so so at a certain point like I'm [TS]

00:20:57   gonna get this bird and the bird figures [TS]

00:20:59   out that it's not going to be enough to [TS]

00:21:02   just go from lamp the lamp and he starts [TS]

00:21:03   to fly and then he's flying around this [TS]

00:21:06   apartment and I'm running after him like [TS]

00:21:08   falling over the the couches and my [TS]

00:21:10   friend joins the chase and the bird goes [TS]

00:21:13   in the bathroom and and and purchase on [TS]

00:21:14   the shower curtain rod and I go in there [TS]

00:21:17   and my friend goes in there my friend [TS]

00:21:18   has his video camera [TS]

00:21:20   and.and I shut the door because I'm [TS]

00:21:22   trying to keep the bird i want to get [TS]

00:21:24   the bird not not to do anything bad to [TS]

00:21:26   and I just want to pet the burn [TS]

00:21:28   I just want to say i just want to see [TS]

00:21:29   the bird and we're in the bathroom and [TS]

00:21:32   the bird is like oh shit I did the wrong [TS]

00:21:34   thing coming in here now I'm trapped in [TS]

00:21:37   this bathroom and I'm trying to get it [TS]

00:21:40   and he starts on he starts flying around [TS]

00:21:42   this bathroom which is you know eight by [TS]

00:21:45   eight and i'm falling into the tub and I [TS]

00:21:48   grabbed the shower curtain and pull the [TS]

00:21:50   rod and the curtain down on top of [TS]

00:21:51   myself and the shower goes on and the [TS]

00:21:54   bird is flying in circles squawking [TS]

00:21:56   we're all week none of us can breathe me [TS]

00:21:59   the friend or the bird because we're all [TS]

00:22:01   so high it's the funniest thing that [TS]

00:22:04   ever happened and the fact that i have [TS]

00:22:06   that videotape not a thing I would ever [TS]

00:22:08   show to anyone in the world I can't even [TS]

00:22:10   believe I'm describing it but i never [TS]

00:22:14   have to smoke pot again because i have [TS]

00:22:17   that moment recorded that is as high as [TS]

00:22:21   you ever need to be and if I want if I [TS]

00:22:26   ever feel like I need to get higher feel [TS]

00:22:27   like I want to feel what it's like to be [TS]

00:22:29   high [TS]

00:22:29   I'm just watch that did you know that's [TS]

00:22:32   right did you see here i am I to infer [TS]

00:22:34   hear that she serenaded the bird with a [TS]

00:22:35   paul mccartney song i know i think at [TS]

00:22:39   that point it was where every 180 but [TS]

00:22:42   you didn't you and your bird can sing to [TS]

00:22:43   the bird know everyone at that party was [TS]

00:22:45   on a strict led zeppelin diet at that [TS]

00:22:46   point who I the bird included so no I [TS]

00:22:50   think if I think the battle of evermore [TS]

00:22:52   was probably playing with loud and [TS]

00:22:55   eventually the door somebody opened the [TS]

00:22:57   door and the bird got out and I was in [TS]

00:22:59   the bathtub covered with shower curtain [TS]

00:23:01   with the honor thought it was the [TS]

00:23:03   greatest the greatest moment of my life [TS]

00:23:05   it might have been it might have been [TS]

00:23:08   right at I want a peek right then and [TS]

00:23:11   the rest is just been a 0 an arduous [TS]

00:23:15   slog a long slog in a brown advil long [TS]

00:23:19   and winding slong anyway who what I want [TS]

00:23:22   to talk about right now is your cousins [TS]

00:23:25   ok talking about the Beatles i was just [TS]

00:23:28   all I was gonna say was and now it's [TS]

00:23:31   it's it's less impactful as we used to [TS]

00:23:33   say office phone number [TS]

00:23:34   well no I I you know whenever I would go [TS]

00:23:37   to the mall i like my mom when I would [TS]

00:23:40   go to the mall because I didn't have a [TS]

00:23:42   car or anything it's just the mall [TS]

00:23:44   manager videos but i was thirteen [TS]

00:23:46   fourteen fifteen sixteen go to the mall [TS]

00:23:48   Oh what about 16 17 18 25 talking to the [TS]

00:23:52   mall with your mom you know what you [TS]

00:23:54   like the chick-fil-a together with she [TS]

00:23:56   would she buy you some kettle corn [TS]

00:23:58   maiden have kettle corn in up but she [TS]

00:24:01   put would you buy you a orange julius [TS]

00:24:03   try orange julius like a feather rub [TS]

00:24:05   clip earring now I'd say that my mom [TS]

00:24:07   can't borrow five dollars and of course [TS]

00:24:09   I would never pay it back bar because [TS]

00:24:11   you want to take one for your parents [TS]

00:24:12   you always ask if you borrow it right [TS]

00:24:13   there was no never never paid their [TS]

00:24:16   parents back anything ever [TS]

00:24:18   I didn't I once asked my dad if I could [TS]

00:24:20   borrow some money to buy a man it's like [TS]

00:24:22   instead borrow I was like yeah borrow [TS]

00:24:26   you've never borrowed it sounds like [TS]

00:24:28   you're gonna make me say it tomorrow [TS]

00:24:31   hey guys I only one is a van and a [TS]

00:24:34   little bit of dignity [TS]

00:24:35   yeah i'm gonna make me say give me the [TS]

00:24:37   money on borrowing it had taken out of [TS]

00:24:40   your allowance about but yeah i would [TS]

00:24:42   really go to Annie know and and what I [TS]

00:24:45   think we've talked about this at length [TS]

00:24:46   but you know when when you're don't have [TS]

00:24:48   a lot of dell any buying records you [TS]

00:24:49   don't have that many chances you do a [TS]

00:24:51   lot of research and and stuff but I [TS]

00:24:53   can't go to other people just go to the [TS]

00:24:55   drugstore and buy the one getting to [TS]

00:24:57   that well so we would i would go to [TS]

00:24:58   record bar and Camelot because those are [TS]

00:25:00   the two stores and flip it through all [TS]

00:25:02   the albums but let me tell you what I [TS]

00:25:04   with three dollars less than it usually [TS]

00:25:06   costs as you say my first appeals albums [TS]

00:25:09   because i estimate with the white album [TS]

00:25:11   and so I and until like probably college [TS]

00:25:14   I still refer to it as the red album is [TS]

00:25:16   them in the blue album sure which are [TS]

00:25:18   those for those of you who don't know [TS]

00:25:19   shame on you but I was the Beatles [TS]

00:25:21   greatest hits up to about paperback [TS]

00:25:25   writer is a double album of right up to [TS]

00:25:28   like the break like paperback writer and [TS]

00:25:30   everything changed and well I guess some [TS]

00:25:33   people would say [TS]

00:25:35   I'll show us what the gringo drumbeat [TS]

00:25:38   single 0 for tomorrow never knows now [TS]

00:25:42   the one with the big single where I [TS]

00:25:44   important matter anyhow the first room [TS]

00:25:48   mmm the best wrinkle beat ever i think [TS]

00:25:50   might be rain team interesting it's [TS]

00:25:54   really colorful now you know the song i [TS]

00:25:57   mean the the John song for when you [TS]

00:26:00   still writing good songs and we're [TS]

00:26:01   talking about the Beatles on this [TS]

00:26:03   podcast so we're doing anyway I from my [TS]

00:26:06   mom and I went to a person's and that's [TS]

00:26:07   right mr. biome elves the end my god I'm [TS]

00:26:11   glad I don't date you [TS]

00:26:12   haha just so many levels is the shirts [TS]

00:26:16   is the birds [TS]

00:26:17   yeah it's the bells as the candles [TS]

00:26:19   that's my favorite him know that movies [TS]

00:26:21   with the bells in the candles [TS]

00:26:23   there's a lot of doesn't sell can do all [TS]

00:26:25   the things you treasure there are a lot [TS]

00:26:28   of reasons that everyone who used to [TS]

00:26:30   Damien doesn't now is glad that they [TS]

00:26:33   don't date me now but there's a little [TS]

00:26:35   but there's a little taste of melancholy [TS]

00:26:37   and that's not to get herb alpert making [TS]

00:26:40   78 I come home from school [TS]

00:26:42   there is an innocuous looking a thick [TS]

00:26:44   album shaped box on my doorstep you're [TS]

00:26:46   16 at this point I was 11 and I picked [TS]

00:26:53   up picked it up and went inside [TS]

00:26:54   yeah and it's album shape walk walk my [TS]

00:26:56   dog and it was from RCA when you left [TS]

00:27:01   the box unopened and walk your dog came [TS]

00:27:04   inside so to speak and I walk my dog [TS]

00:27:06   whatever point being there's a box I [TS]

00:27:08   open this up its it gets sent to the [TS]

00:27:11   wrong person that you do you open up [TS]

00:27:13   other people's stuff right [TS]

00:27:15   oh I don't do that and it was somebody's [TS]

00:27:18   like six for a penny box of RCA joining [TS]

00:27:22   up records and this is a business became [TS]

00:27:26   a very important day for me when I tried [TS]

00:27:28   to explain this data for many many years [TS]

00:27:30   know that long be and 1878 some of the [TS]

00:27:35   age so what would have been best of the [TS]

00:27:37   Beach Boys Frampton Comes Alive kiss [TS]

00:27:38   destroyer and rock and roll over the [TS]

00:27:40   monkeys greatest hits and the best of [TS]

00:27:42   Dolly Parton [TS]

00:27:43   people oh oh my god that explains this [TS]

00:27:46   time a guy this is that this point i [TS]

00:27:49   owned the star wars soundtrack write the [TS]

00:27:51   story of Star Wars write an entire now [TS]

00:27:55   my mother and father had been were [TS]

00:27:57   veterans of the RCA music club so we [TS]

00:27:58   also had five thousand eight tracks of [TS]

00:28:01   mantovani and Percy Faith uh-huh ok [TS]

00:28:03   check off the easy listening boxer Roger [TS]

00:28:05   Whittaker any of that ship was already [TS]

00:28:08   hitting hard the term or her for her [TS]

00:28:13   sure yeah he's good Whistler you know he [TS]

00:28:17   started out as a whistle like slim [TS]

00:28:18   whitman he was slim slim yodeled and i [TS]

00:28:20   whistled and I believe he whistled and [TS]

00:28:22   Roger Whittaker was primarily a Whistler [TS]

00:28:24   you know i'm i'm actually not a bad [TS]

00:28:25   Whistler beer to throw please continue [TS]

00:28:30   that was very again very popular in the [TS]

00:28:32   cross the Christopher Cross period the [TS]

00:28:33   the reformed America period right right [TS]

00:28:36   right well you know i was listening to [TS]

00:28:37   some of my dental records the other day [TS]

00:28:39   and I and we're really looking forward [TS]

00:28:42   to the to the vocal style the male vocal [TS]

00:28:45   style of Who coming back because that [TS]

00:28:50   the tremulous crude about like really [TS]

00:28:53   like old like dancing your stuff and [TS]

00:28:56   yeah it is it's such an unappealing [TS]

00:28:59   vocal style I cannot believe [TS]

00:29:01   well it explains why so much of the big [TS]

00:29:03   band music was instrumental [TS]

00:29:05   because when somebody started to sing [TS]

00:29:07   maybe in the swing era but in the big [TS]

00:29:09   band era there were some really mr. [TS]

00:29:11   Sinatra started you know it was a Tommy [TS]

00:29:13   Dorsey and there was a lot of apparently [TS]

00:29:16   I'm your father-in-law where you're [TS]

00:29:18   explaining to me where Sinatra got to [TS]

00:29:19   start let me get a fucking three by five [TS]

00:29:21   card here [TS]

00:29:22   oh you tell me you know more about Frank [TS]

00:29:23   Sinatra let me write this down [TS]

00:29:25   Merlin knows about Frank Sinatra Tommy [TS]

00:29:28   Dorsey in any case so I commit so here's [TS]

00:29:32   the thing again you should understand [TS]

00:29:34   that at this point I don't own a lot of [TS]

00:29:37   LPS I going to have mostly remember uh [TS]

00:29:39   was called you have sesame street fever [TS]

00:29:41   no time this is the nineteen seventies [TS]

00:29:43   what the fuck you talking about i had [TS]

00:29:46   show-and-tell had a show-and-tell [TS]

00:29:47   remember show-and-tell you get it was [TS]

00:29:50   kind of like a an audio-visual version [TS]

00:29:52   of like a few master you got this little [TS]

00:29:54   thing had a little [TS]

00:29:55   screen and required yeah you mean like a [TS]

00:29:58   little slide show you learn about having [TS]

00:29:59   Hillary or whatever i'm sure i don't [TS]

00:30:01   think i had 1i think of friend had one [TS]

00:30:03   that's what i play my records on to [TS]

00:30:05   understand seriously like for Christmas [TS]

00:30:07   in 1977 i want to say I was a Star Wars [TS]

00:30:11   Christmas you know i got like I got the [TS]

00:30:13   soundtrack [TS]

00:30:14   that's the records that i had then I [TS]

00:30:15   came home and there was six well [TS]

00:30:17   together [TS]

00:30:17   discounting is Dolly Parton six rocket [TS]

00:30:20   rockers only record yeah i mean i know [TS]

00:30:22   you know giant kiss fan but with the [TS]

00:30:24   imagine being 11 and getting to suddenly [TS]

00:30:25   go to kiss records [TS]

00:30:27   well i heard of an eleven-year-old boy [TS]

00:30:29   in Florida is absolutely ohio ohio right [TS]

00:30:33   then listen to kissimmee florida uh that [TS]

00:30:35   is that is right in kisses we'll have to [TS]

00:30:39   chill in particular I mean I was kind of [TS]

00:30:41   scared of kiss even though i have [TS]

00:30:42   friends that were in to kiss i still [TS]

00:30:44   thought they were kind of scary the [TS]

00:30:45   blockheads certain service you know it's [TS]

00:30:48   true i wasn't nights [TS]

00:30:50   they're all the kids in st. service at [TS]

00:30:52   all that's even better that's so much [TS]

00:30:53   better [TS]

00:30:54   good service rawr but there are two in [TS]

00:30:57   particular I mean I was familiar now in [TS]

00:30:59   your case like you're talking about the [TS]

00:31:00   clock radio is just listen am radio all [TS]

00:31:02   day long I mean I knew every song but [TS]

00:31:04   like them and i watch The Monkees of [TS]

00:31:06   course so the monkeys greatest hits and [TS]

00:31:08   the best of the Beach Boys which is a [TS]

00:31:09   really good best of but those two in [TS]

00:31:11   particular like I just I would just play [TS]

00:31:13   those first comes alive even it wasn't [TS]

00:31:15   that into it because you know what it's [TS]

00:31:17   not that good it's arguably one of the [TS]

00:31:18   most overrated records of all time I [TS]

00:31:20   think close to if not the most overrated [TS]

00:31:23   records that you do go get your copy a [TS]

00:31:25   friend comes alive could trade it for a [TS]

00:31:27   copy of odyssey in oracle everything [TS]

00:31:29   will change everything will change but [TS]

00:31:30   what people like about frampton comes [TS]

00:31:32   alive is that it sounds like the smell [TS]

00:31:36   of marijuana [TS]

00:31:37   yeah you know exactly what sounds like a [TS]

00:31:40   one-hitter I think people should trade [TS]

00:31:42   their frampton comes alive for a Judas [TS]

00:31:46   Priest's live album unleashed in the [TS]

00:31:48   East that the one with the long green [TS]

00:31:50   manalishi sell up [TS]

00:31:51   yes yeah now unleashed in the East is [TS]

00:31:54   going to take you if your little if you [TS]

00:31:56   are not a Judas Priest fan or you are [TS]

00:31:58   like a um ambivalent to Judas Priest [TS]

00:32:01   anyway if you listen to unleash in the [TS]

00:32:04   East which is one of those live albums [TS]

00:32:06   which is arguably just a bunch of [TS]

00:32:08   overdubs right over the sound gets [TS]

00:32:11   inspired a lot of people people people [TS]

00:32:13   screaming in in Japanese if you don't [TS]

00:32:15   mind I don't mind this sound for 46 [TS]

00:32:17   minutes [TS]

00:32:19   yeah it sounds like somebody left a [TS]

00:32:23   steam valve open [TS]

00:32:24   it's either but this album is it is [TS]

00:32:26   absolutely phenomenal crying now knows [TS]

00:32:30   that it said this is when he still had [TS]

00:32:31   hair and stuff right that's but this is [TS]

00:32:32   before British steel right [TS]

00:32:34   yes it is and it's and it's effectively [TS]

00:32:36   a greatest hits of Judas Priest up to [TS]

00:32:39   nineteen seventy-nine or whatever came [TS]

00:32:42   and you all those albums that just [TS]

00:32:46   priest in the early to mid seventies [TS]

00:32:47   they were all concept albums they all [TS]

00:32:49   had like side to was just one giant song [TS]

00:32:52   and six movements and watching old [TS]

00:32:53   videos of him when he had like his bald [TS]

00:32:55   head long hair when you look like The [TS]

00:32:57   Rocky Horror guy like the idea were much [TS]

00:33:00   closer to prague in a lot of these [TS]

00:33:02   efforts [TS]

00:33:03   absolutely they were made they were like [TS]

00:33:04   coming out coming out from Queen rocky [TS]

00:33:08   horror very much but Michael didn't meet [TS]

00:33:12   again no real singles it wasn't until [TS]

00:33:14   the new wave of British heavy metal that [TS]

00:33:16   people understood what heavy metal [TS]

00:33:17   should really look like I mean between [TS]

00:33:19   like I know I know you wouldn't count [TS]

00:33:21   Motorhead nap between like to set [TS]

00:33:23   Motorhead but definitely what like Saxon [TS]

00:33:26   Iron Maiden those bands with the spikes [TS]

00:33:30   like that's what people figured out what [TS]

00:33:32   heavy metal should look like he's he [TS]

00:33:33   looked like he looked like a leathery [TS]

00:33:35   gay man is what he looked like it just [TS]

00:33:37   happened to fit in with what metal [TS]

00:33:38   became but people used to look more [TS]

00:33:41   don't you think people with on measures [TS]

00:33:42   they used to just look more like stoners [TS]

00:33:44   in in heavy metal unless you Ritchie [TS]

00:33:46   Blackmore or running change do i think [TS]

00:33:49   that i think that there was a time and [TS]

00:33:51   this may be just because we were we were [TS]

00:33:53   kids then and so adults some adults [TS]

00:33:56   seemed especially scary anyway but but [TS]

00:34:00   we were alive in a time when the the net [TS]

00:34:04   amount of mail scariness like the mean [TS]

00:34:09   scariness of adult men was much higher [TS]

00:34:12   than it is now I'll astoundingly hire [TS]

00:34:14   you know like everything everything was [TS]

00:34:17   scarier than you ever did not have to [TS]

00:34:19   and it's not just because we work [TS]

00:34:20   because i remember being a teenager and [TS]

00:34:21   feeling this way to that it that adult [TS]

00:34:24   men were not to be trifled with [TS]

00:34:27   and they did not need to advertise that [TS]

00:34:29   they were scary by wearing clown makeup [TS]

00:34:32   or by going i 4get just a man in a denim [TS]

00:34:38   jacket with a cigarette in one hand in [TS]

00:34:40   and a wrench in the other hand was an [TS]

00:34:44   unpredictable and dangerous animal that [TS]

00:34:46   you have that you if you could avoid you [TS]

00:34:48   did a voice and now men like adult men [TS]

00:34:51   are so defamed they are not scary and so [TS]

00:34:56   you have this cart these these men and [TS]

00:34:58   you see them all over even just among [TS]

00:35:01   the hipsters guys who have tried to [TS]

00:35:03   replace their lack of of like adult [TS]

00:35:09   nurse or the the lack of like actual [TS]

00:35:12   masculine scariness that should be in [TS]

00:35:15   them and isn't they think they mask it [TS]

00:35:19   with tattoos or they have the you know [TS]

00:35:22   that they try to be weird together a lot [TS]

00:35:24   more deliberate leader iki deliberately [TS]

00:35:26   dirty thank you [TS]

00:35:28   hey there's nothing there's something in [TS]

00:35:29   like every time I see somebody with a [TS]

00:35:31   really old [TS]

00:35:33   timbuk2 bag and a bunch of tattoos and a [TS]

00:35:36   moustache on a fixie look at all mad [TS]

00:35:38   with like a got another cuff on the [TS]

00:35:40   wrist [TS]

00:35:41   unlike you understand you live in a city [TS]

00:35:42   where costs a hundred thousand dollars [TS]

00:35:43   here to live here like I want to [TS]

00:35:45   understand you live with your friends [TS]

00:35:46   and you make fifty thousand dollars a [TS]

00:35:48   year but it's like you're not you're not [TS]

00:35:49   living fucking West Virginia cooking [TS]

00:35:51   meth in every single cisco down they [TS]

00:35:54   have a jar of like beard conditioner [TS]

00:35:56   that they forty dollars for that's made [TS]

00:35:59   out of like bees wax from the Himalayas [TS]

00:36:01   or something and keels hires lesbians [TS]

00:36:03   asshole and and and what when when I was [TS]

00:36:06   you know [TS]

00:36:07   well certainly that that generation of [TS]

00:36:09   British heavy metal that that spawned [TS]

00:36:12   that look that became a cartoon [TS]

00:36:14   [Music] [TS]

00:36:15   I mean the guys in Saxon just looked [TS]

00:36:18   like they were guys that had though [TS]

00:36:20   we're rebuilding a Camaro you know like [TS]

00:36:23   four guys rebuilding a commander they're [TS]

00:36:25   like wipe their hands off on a dirty [TS]

00:36:26   angulated it they were like costumes [TS]

00:36:28   they weren't costumes they were just I [TS]

00:36:31   mean like you look at ACDC certainly [TS]

00:36:32   ACDC had their costumes but Bon Scott [TS]

00:36:36   that they'd all been fired from a garage [TS]

00:36:38   yeah bon scott who was five feet tall [TS]

00:36:41   looked even if he was just wearing jeans [TS]

00:36:45   and no shirt he looked like the scariest [TS]

00:36:49   motherfucker you ever saw and a great [TS]

00:36:51   guy least somebody totally want to party [TS]

00:36:53   with it hang out with but also like [TS]

00:36:55   somebody who I mean I'm six foot three [TS]

00:36:57   and and and you know and eight bon scott [TS]

00:37:02   looks like somebody who would climb up [TS]

00:37:04   my pant leg to bite me on the neck you [TS]

00:37:07   know like the fact that i have twice as [TS]

00:37:09   tall as he is would not like stop him [TS]

00:37:11   for a second like he would climb me in [TS]

00:37:15   order to in order to like he would he [TS]

00:37:18   would he would mount me basically and [TS]

00:37:21   and and that whole generation of guys [TS]

00:37:23   like they were just they were harder [TS]

00:37:25   they're scarier their creepier creator [TS]

00:37:28   there was there was just a cultural [TS]

00:37:29   creepiness and whether I mean there's a [TS]

00:37:31   whole kind of key party looking shit I [TS]

00:37:33   mean I've seen the pictures i know [TS]

00:37:34   you're making me enjoy not making me [TS]

00:37:36   you've led me Gerry Rafferty and I'm [TS]

00:37:37   enjoying it [TS]

00:37:38   I haven't seen a picture of Gerry [TS]

00:37:39   Rafferty yet read like a child molester [TS]

00:37:41   well yeah Gerry Rafferty was obviously [TS]

00:37:43   like enjoy a drink [TS]

00:37:45   he was also drinking himself to enjoy it [TS]

00:37:46   but now i just i told you the story you [TS]

00:37:48   know where my dad showed up at a [TS]

00:37:50   Wobblies meeting and I should have told [TS]

00:37:52   you this story [TS]

00:37:53   what was he like wigs now the wob the [TS]

00:37:55   Wobblies they were that they were the [TS]

00:37:57   original hardcore a sort of unionized [TS]

00:38:01   I'm sorry yes [TS]

00:38:05   ok sorry yes it's such a union is ok I [TS]

00:38:07   got it yeah and and he my dad shows up [TS]

00:38:10   and you know that the Wobblies were the [TS]

00:38:12   Industrial Workers of the world the IWW [TS]

00:38:15   where that they were they were tough [TS]

00:38:17   they were they were they were thugs nice [TS]

00:38:20   logo this is like dock workers [TS]

00:38:23   and my dad my dad was he became the [TS]

00:38:26   lawyer for the for the long shoreman's [TS]

00:38:29   union in Washington in the fifties but [TS]

00:38:32   in the thirties when he was 18 he and [TS]

00:38:37   somebody's went down to the docks in a [TS]

00:38:39   late at night to go to this Wobblies [TS]

00:38:42   meeting and it was seriously the type of [TS]

00:38:46   thing where I think like the parking lot [TS]

00:38:48   was lit by torchlight you know that [TS]

00:38:51   there were four guys just sitting there [TS]

00:38:53   you know rhythmically slapping a giant [TS]

00:38:57   pipe wrench into the palm of their hand [TS]

00:39:00   and these kids walk up to the door of [TS]

00:39:03   the my dad and his friends and walk up [TS]

00:39:05   to the door of this warehouse and inside [TS]

00:39:09   it's just like another just like yeah [TS]

00:39:12   and there's a guy standing at the door [TS]

00:39:15   and he grabs the kids by the shirt he [TS]

00:39:17   goes [TS]

00:39:17   show me your hands ok rough they are and [TS]

00:39:21   you know and and all four of them show [TS]

00:39:23   the palms of their hands and he points [TS]

00:39:26   to the three better my dad's friend and [TS]

00:39:28   he's like you three have never worked a [TS]

00:39:30   day in your life get the fuck out of [TS]

00:39:31   here [TS]

00:39:31   well he looks at my dad and he goes [TS]

00:39:33   you're all right kid and it's because my [TS]

00:39:36   dad was on the crew team uh he's a rower [TS]

00:39:40   his hands were covered with calluses [TS]

00:39:42   from the oars any and the guy goes you [TS]

00:39:46   can come in and so my dad goes into this [TS]

00:39:48   meeting by himself what year is this [TS]

00:39:49   1938 holy shit and went into this [TS]

00:39:54   meeting in it and became sort of a [TS]

00:39:55   lifelong labor organizer but you know [TS]

00:39:59   the prettiest of all sports really the [TS]

00:40:01   the crew ya like it but like anything [TS]

00:40:04   like a lacrosse callous but this was an [TS]

00:40:06   arrow went out when a guy would stand at [TS]

00:40:08   the door and and your hands would be [TS]

00:40:10   your passport [TS]

00:40:12   that's a that is I think that's the [TS]

00:40:15   thing that does not exist anymore or not [TS]

00:40:18   on any world I live in [TS]

00:40:20   I just sent you a photograph that uh [TS]

00:40:24   it's a you won't believe the year when [TS]

00:40:27   you look at it from 1981 but it's from [TS]

00:40:29   an IWW picket in i guess in Australia [TS]

00:40:32   home on Scott and wow these guys either [TS]

00:40:37   look like they're in the band or some [TS]

00:40:40   kind of a of a violent pederasty club is [TS]

00:40:43   like that look you know the thing about [TS]

00:40:46   1981 is that it was such an in-between [TS]

00:40:49   pivotal pivotal time like there's [TS]

00:40:52   they're like that the fact that the [TS]

00:40:54   labor union guys would look like hippies [TS]

00:40:57   at that point and yet there's also a guy [TS]

00:41:00   in a leather blazer with kevin from the [TS]

00:41:03   wrens he really does yeah he looks like [TS]

00:41:07   he's like heaven is not a pederast to my [TS]

00:41:09   nose like a newscaster um it's a times [TS]

00:41:12   are really changing in 1980 dad made out [TS]

00:41:15   laughs mass day knowing that you're that [TS]

00:41:21   you're Dale Bozzio speech today all lost [TS]

00:41:24   our and break destination unknown your [TS]

00:41:29   hands would be your passport [TS]

00:41:32   that's not a fortune cookie i like that [TS]

00:41:33   you said that somebody tweeted me some [TS]

00:41:36   weird of some weird uh fortune the other [TS]

00:41:39   day in the voice of a soothsayer like a [TS]

00:41:44   dwarf soothsayer from the from know like [TS]

00:41:49   Leonardo DaVinci's town and he said you [TS]

00:41:54   know that he said the crows were going [TS]

00:41:56   to visit visit pain upon your something [TS]

00:41:59   like that well this happened on the [TS]

00:42:01   tutor [TS]

00:42:01   yeah that doesn't get that sounds like a [TS]

00:42:03   curse John you better watch out what you [TS]

00:42:05   said when you check yourself [TS]

00:42:06   well you know people are always some do [TS]

00:42:09   you get classic question when cut this [TS]

00:42:10   out we need to do you receive a lot of [TS]

00:42:12   curses your knowledge no but but that [TS]

00:42:15   but there isn't in in a in cantore [TS]

00:42:19   element to things that people send me [TS]

00:42:22   haha [TS]

00:42:24   thanks and like an existentialist [TS]

00:42:26   serving suggestion [TS]

00:42:28   well it's it it's more I I don't know [TS]

00:42:30   what it is about because i don't [TS]

00:42:32   typically attract a lot of like people [TS]

00:42:36   don't want to roleplay with me i don't [TS]

00:42:38   think but there are some like [TS]

00:42:41   scandinavian black metal people that [TS]

00:42:44   just want to check stuff out the run [TS]

00:42:46   stuff by me i'm not sure what it is but [TS]

00:42:48   I do get a lot of like weird spells the [TS]

00:42:51   jargon would you put this knife into and [TS]

00:42:55   I don't know I don't know what that big [TS]

00:42:57   long time fan john quinn question if [TS]

00:42:59   you'd killed this in a field band which [TS]

00:43:01   bone with you now on first I think it's [TS]

00:43:03   because I recognized expert on the the [TS]

00:43:06   duty of lithuania I get a lot of again a [TS]

00:43:10   lot of Central European learn about that [TS]

00:43:12   lithuania here well you know I came to [TS]

00:43:15   stand for example just for what it's [TS]

00:43:16   worth I I've been something to think [TS]

00:43:17   about for a while there are lists of [TS]

00:43:19   people who want to be on talk shows [TS]

00:43:22   there are you can sign up to be on a [TS]

00:43:24   list of people you could say what you're [TS]

00:43:25   fucked up about and then some Jerry [TS]

00:43:27   Springer s Show have you want to throw a [TS]

00:43:29   chair you can register for this you can [TS]

00:43:31   see people that have done it more than [TS]

00:43:32   once [TS]

00:43:33   it seems to me that given the kinds of [TS]

00:43:34   information you have in the ways that [TS]

00:43:35   you can help people it might be useful [TS]

00:43:37   for you to have some kind of a registry [TS]

00:43:39   I mean I don't know whether that's a [TS]

00:43:41   web-sight I don't know if it's an agency [TS]

00:43:42   of some kind but for example if you [TS]

00:43:44   wanted to find out what kind of but [TS]

00:43:46   singer bones to eat first and needed [TS]

00:43:48   some kind of kind of somebody who is [TS]

00:43:49   familiar with lithuania I don't know how [TS]

00:43:51   to find you [TS]

00:43:52   I mean this is the problem and part of [TS]

00:43:54   the problem is that i am a that I you [TS]

00:43:56   know I'm you're busy you're very busy [TS]

00:43:57   man i'm busy and i'm also an expert on [TS]

00:43:59   everything so how would I register do [TS]

00:44:01   you want to do you need somebody that [TS]

00:44:03   knows about it ask John you know like [TS]

00:44:05   that's not gonna tell ya I think a lot [TS]

00:44:07   of people think of themselves as knowing [TS]

00:44:08   everything about everything [TS]

00:44:10   well how do you distinguish yourself in [TS]

00:44:11   that crowded market apart from taking [TS]

00:44:13   people down a peg one of the time that's [TS]

00:44:15   time consuming you're busy as we said he [TS]

00:44:17   stipulated you know I think a lot of the [TS]

00:44:19   people that end up on TV are the [TS]

00:44:20   specialists they're the people that know [TS]

00:44:21   just about the Battle of Gettysburg or [TS]

00:44:23   they know just about how aliens built [TS]

00:44:26   the ancient pyramids get a horse it's [TS]

00:44:28   very hard to be a polymath anymore and i [TS]

00:44:32   think it's it's just one of those things [TS]

00:44:33   where you have to have just enjoy the [TS]

00:44:36   satisfaction [TS]

00:44:37   of knowing everything that must be that [TS]

00:44:41   must be so frustrating for you have to [TS]

00:44:43   do I mean first of all the burden you [TS]

00:44:44   say it's not a burden I think it's [TS]

00:44:46   because you're a gentleman but you walk [TS]

00:44:47   around with a lot of knowledge [TS]

00:44:49   that'sthat's it's sitting there and it's [TS]

00:44:51   boiling in that I don't know how you [TS]

00:44:52   keep the lid on [TS]

00:44:53   well here's the problem in America and [TS]

00:44:55   particularly on the west coast nobody [TS]

00:44:57   wants to know about lithuania nobody [TS]

00:44:59   wants to know about the three means i [TS]

00:45:01   have you tried I tried all the time to [TS]

00:45:04   bring some just glazed eyes the only [TS]

00:45:06   people that care about lithuania are [TS]

00:45:08   lithuanian 'he's or not even the [TS]

00:45:11   children of Lithuanian want to know [TS]

00:45:12   about it so you just it's just like the [TS]

00:45:15   winds and then people in Scandinavia who [TS]

00:45:16   are trying to like reanimate both [TS]

00:45:19   columns who are living in the attics of [TS]

00:45:21   decommission synagogues those people are [TS]

00:45:25   taking you [TS]

00:45:26   he gave me an order-of-magnitude [TS]

00:45:27   estimate on how many as there are uh [TS]

00:45:30   good columns in in the Attic civil [TS]

00:45:32   synagogues and other people who want to [TS]

00:45:34   reanimate them [TS]

00:45:35   OIC people in scanning as far as you [TS]

00:45:37   know it's seasonal I've changed it gets [TS]

00:45:40   a little warmer it's it's kind of a [TS]

00:45:43   thing that's really actually kind of [TS]

00:45:44   localized in Finland and Sweden that [TS]

00:45:46   decode the Norwegians are on a different [TS]

00:45:48   trip [TS]

00:45:49   well it's like Christians on on Easter [TS]

00:45:51   and Christmas [TS]

00:45:52   I mean you have gotten knocked everybody [TS]

00:45:54   gets up and tries to get shit [TS]

00:45:55   Oh column knocked at such a time finger [TS]

00:45:58   bring your ex singers bones [TS]

00:46:00   the thing is a lot of those synagogues [TS]

00:46:02   in Eastern Europe you know they've been [TS]

00:46:03   converted into rec centers or their you [TS]

00:46:06   know their video game parlours now or [TS]

00:46:07   internet cafe lounge all appearances [TS]

00:46:09   you don't even know that it's a former [TS]

00:46:11   synagogue except for the giant star of [TS]

00:46:13   david rose window so you know who know [TS]

00:46:17   that this could be a thing actually this [TS]

00:46:20   could be one of those like mayan [TS]

00:46:22   calendar events we even your little [TS]

00:46:24   leading consultancy are you talking [TS]

00:46:26   about the general holiday every [TS]

00:46:27   animating columns that comes our columns [TS]

00:46:30   I think of a golem is being a Jewish [TS]

00:46:32   thing it a dnd thing in a Jewish thing [TS]

00:46:34   it is but when you're talking about [TS]

00:46:36   reanimating clay a tama ton's I think [TS]

00:46:40   entrails I'm not thinking of wrinkles [TS]

00:46:42   when you're talking about who is the [TS]

00:46:44   constituency for people who want to [TS]

00:46:47   reanimate automatons [TS]

00:46:49   soo hoo hoo come back to to you know to [TS]

00:46:53   wreak havoc who wants to do that more [TS]

00:46:56   than scandinavian metalheads it's [TS]

00:46:58   chocolate buttons aren't into that [TS]

00:47:00   anymore they're thinking soup [TS]

00:47:02   yeah there's somewhere else and I [TS]

00:47:03   finally done with the way the body as [TS]

00:47:05   board has not been interested in [TS]

00:47:06   environmental for some time now he [TS]

00:47:08   doesn't remember a thing [TS]

00:47:10   no it's all these kids it's all these [TS]

00:47:11   black metal kids that are serious about [TS]

00:47:13   black metal they're not the ones that [TS]

00:47:14   are wearing like a cartoon lipstick but [TS]

00:47:17   but the ones that are better dressing [TS]

00:47:19   like normal people [TS]

00:47:20   other passing through passing myself but [TS]

00:47:23   I've got a book about black metal and [TS]

00:47:26   about the whole that whole scene with [TS]

00:47:27   some ways the name of that band that [TS]

00:47:30   they're all you know nouns like artists [TS]

00:47:33   are harvested raaz and you know what [TS]

00:47:38   forget this is chandra of Scandinavia [TS]

00:47:40   noun I'm gonna look I'm gonna start a [TS]

00:47:42   list of fake Norwegian black metal bands [TS]

00:47:44   and the first peacock Carbonaro i'm [TS]

00:47:50   looking at a book on my shelf right now [TS]

00:47:51   that is the book is just called gothic [TS]

00:47:54   and though the title is written in comic [TS]

00:47:57   lettering and i have not looked at this [TS]

00:48:00   book in many years i'm pulling it off [TS]

00:48:01   the shelf now nobody their house smells [TS]

00:48:04   like clothes cigarettes or has an [TS]

00:48:05   interesting arch those kind of come up [TS]

00:48:07   smelling I can have all got the guards [TS]

00:48:09   that's the only the ceiling the only are [TS]

00:48:12   checking ball know really well I columns [TS]

00:48:15   you know I didn't mean so many archers [TS]

00:48:16   we had we had a class in high school [TS]

00:48:18   called humanities which I'm really kind [TS]

00:48:20   of sorry I didn't take it was very [TS]

00:48:21   tedious but it's something I could [TS]

00:48:23   really use I can't download or a column [TS]

00:48:24   from dirty column and display a [TS]

00:48:27   derivative kollam that's Factory Records [TS]

00:48:29   joke that wasn't very fun all very [TS]

00:48:33   interesting this is really a book on the [TS]

00:48:35   whole gothic movement don't don't don't [TS]

00:48:38   happen to have this year do decide do I [TS]

00:48:42   remember mystery their ministry before [TS]

00:48:44   they were all like angry you know I [TS]

00:48:46   bottom without about which ministry [TS]

00:48:49   became a thing i had already gone a [TS]

00:48:53   different Road [TS]

00:48:54   yeah but they weren't that song with you [TS]

00:48:55   remember that song was everywhere i do [TS]

00:48:57   it was that it was the very first time [TS]

00:49:00   I was in a band with a guy who shaved [TS]

00:49:02   the sides of his head but left the top [TS]

00:49:04   will grow long handsome and it was it [TS]

00:49:08   was that I think that made me that [TS]

00:49:13   divorce myself from mr. likes the link [TS]

00:49:15   i'm not saying trent reznor but i'm [TS]

00:49:17   saying i like a young trent reznor still [TS]

00:49:18   figuring it out back surface sure before [TS]

00:49:21   before and had before becoming [TS]

00:49:23   entrenched like at AC that just like me [TS]

00:49:27   it's everything from Chicago lobbying [TS]

00:49:30   parent paler here in this thing you know [TS]

00:49:31   there was a real there's a lot i know [TS]

00:49:34   that was i've been i've been to [TS]

00:49:35   Wrestlemania it marked in any way did [TS]

00:49:41   they go for the tourist dollars there [TS]

00:49:43   transylvania who I could see them really [TS]

00:49:45   really saying look you know what I mean [TS]

00:49:48   what kind of industries do you have in [TS]

00:49:50   in the transformation living today I [TS]

00:49:52   guess it's probably not called that [TS]

00:49:53   unless it's a dookie was worth spreading [TS]

00:49:55   apart like Romania yeah it's part of [TS]

00:49:58   Romania it was traditionally Hungarian [TS]

00:50:00   it's part of Romania this is part of the [TS]

00:50:03   fucking world war one bullshit [TS]

00:50:04   I'm afraid so often we know what about [TS]

00:50:06   Austria hungry what about it or play [TS]

00:50:09   diplomacy is that a game or is that a [TS]

00:50:13   sex game you play D&D I put sex [TS]

00:50:16   diplomacy diplomacy diplomacy and if you [TS]

00:50:21   ever played judge being the person you [TS]

00:50:23   are somewhere between a million military [TS]

00:50:25   historian and a paladin national palette [TS]

00:50:28   and you'd be an anti palette and I think [TS]

00:50:29   you are you always seem like a military [TS]

00:50:32   or story because that's what we end up [TS]

00:50:34   talking about but I I polymath your [TS]

00:50:36   polymethyl things you can't talk about [TS]

00:50:37   everything at once everything that once [TS]

00:50:39   was a bangles who who did that [TS]

00:50:41   everywhere once everything hits at once [TS]

00:50:44   that spoon [TS]

00:50:44   okay I like that advanced cassette song [TS]

00:50:47   my thinking on this is diplomacy [TS]

00:50:50   okay here's the thing the other is a [TS]

00:50:51   like-for-like avalon hill games like [TS]

00:50:54   that is like risk right [TS]

00:50:55   oh no this is this is well I mean it is [TS]

00:50:58   but Reno risk feels like fucking like [TS]

00:51:00   playing trouble or sorry compared to [TS]

00:51:03   diplomacy diplomacy you have a board [TS]

00:51:05   and the board is pre World War One [TS]

00:51:09   europe and russia and you don't feed the [TS]

00:51:14   the I think maybe the only element of [TS]

00:51:17   chance and the entire game is which [TS]

00:51:19   country you are and I forgive me then [TS]

00:51:21   who'd I will probably get this wrong but [TS]

00:51:22   everything was the rescue just slow slog [TS]

00:51:25   through the point where you have no [TS]

00:51:26   choices you have no idea you have no [TS]

00:51:28   idea [TS]

00:51:29   no way to hear everybody gets and i'm [TS]

00:51:31   going to try to guess the number but [TS]

00:51:32   everybody gets a certain number of [TS]

00:51:34   armies and where appropriate navies and [TS]

00:51:37   the only different one is Russia which I [TS]

00:51:39   think it's one more Navy you become a [TS]

00:51:41   country and here's what you do you try [TS]

00:51:42   to take over Europe and how do you do [TS]

00:51:44   this you go and you talked to everybody [TS]

00:51:47   from the other countries not in the [TS]

00:51:48   presence of other people and then you [TS]

00:51:51   write your orders [TS]

00:51:52   alright so put the parlor game where you [TS]

00:51:53   go like a parlor game it's very [TS]

00:51:55   sophisticated military trying to the [TS]

00:51:57   bathroom and they make a bigger plan and [TS]

00:51:59   then the two people go into the kitchen [TS]

00:52:01   and make a plan type 88 wrap a cockatiel [TS]

00:52:03   and you bring up on ya shes Christ do [TS]

00:52:06   not understand very if I show you the [TS]

00:52:08   picture of me and diplomacy close in [TS]

00:52:09   diplomacy club did you know that this [TS]

00:52:11   was a thing that they endorsed in school [TS]

00:52:13   well known as a military school so it's [TS]

00:52:15   a picture of me and dress blues in front [TS]

00:52:16   of diplomacy again sent this to me man [TS]

00:52:18   so why can't I i did not grow up playing [TS]

00:52:23   board games just hate pork and we just [TS]

00:52:26   I'm sorry this is I don't like to go mad [TS]

00:52:28   but we talked about four games a lot on [TS]

00:52:29   you look nice today and exact fucking [TS]

00:52:31   hate board games [TS]

00:52:32   I hate board game people don't hate them [TS]

00:52:34   I despise them but I don't hate them I [TS]

00:52:35   you know I feel love for everyone [TS]

00:52:37   especially people that I want to help [TS]

00:52:38   here's my helping stop with the board [TS]

00:52:40   games i sat at a table one time watching [TS]

00:52:42   people play settlers of catan and I and [TS]

00:52:45   I found it to be very a very soothing [TS]

00:52:48   and very much it was set in sensory [TS]

00:52:51   sellers of catan settlers of catan which [TS]

00:52:54   is one of the what they call the German [TS]

00:52:57   board games which are board games that [TS]

00:53:00   are that the Germans popularized some [TS]

00:53:03   common choice it there there there yet [TS]

00:53:05   government so they are the hair their [TS]

00:53:07   strategy games and you everybody at the [TS]

00:53:10   board is given a certain number of [TS]

00:53:12   natural resources and they they used in [TS]

00:53:15   a trade with one another and they use [TS]

00:53:17   those natural resources to [TS]

00:53:19   gain territory is what you like risk and [TS]

00:53:22   sins and making on they build they build [TS]

00:53:25   little civilizations on the board and [TS]

00:53:26   stuff I I went into this situation I [TS]

00:53:29   didn't actually play the game but I went [TS]

00:53:31   into the situation of being an observer [TS]

00:53:32   of the game the you know somewhat with [TS]

00:53:37   the feeling like I'm gonna sit here for [TS]

00:53:38   three minutes and this is going to bore [TS]

00:53:40   me selling I'm gonna leave and instead I [TS]

00:53:42   SAT there through an entire game and and [TS]

00:53:45   and found it very interesting not that [TS]

00:53:47   it still wasn't a thing that i would [TS]

00:53:48   that i would do myself but but I [TS]

00:53:51   understood i started to understand the [TS]

00:53:53   board gaming culture because it was very [TS]

00:53:56   relaxing and everybody's got their [TS]

00:53:58   everybody's got their little duplicity [TS]

00:54:00   they're trying to scope out what other [TS]

00:54:03   people are doing but at the same time [TS]

00:54:04   it's let's call me what I like about it [TS]

00:54:07   i like i like that everybody's into it [TS]

00:54:09   and I respect things where everybody [TS]

00:54:11   there's into because there's not that [TS]

00:54:12   many things where everybody's into it [TS]

00:54:14   and like I actually i have have a friend [TS]

00:54:16   and occasional of business person whose [TS]

00:54:19   sister was one of the co-creators of I [TS]

00:54:21   think this is correct of magic the [TS]

00:54:22   gathering so they still got like the [TS]

00:54:24   original like cards from Magic the [TS]

00:54:26   Gathering so she just sells one of those [TS]

00:54:28   cards every year and puzzles me is [TS]

00:54:31   another yacht was another helicopter [TS]

00:54:33   carrier now but he's a really typical [TS]

00:54:35   guy very nerdy and like a but yeah [TS]

00:54:38   especially the photograph I knew a guy [TS]

00:54:40   whose job is where the building is how [TS]

00:54:43   i've tried to remember where i met this [TS]

00:54:44   guy but have been to his house and he [TS]

00:54:47   has an entire floor of his house that's [TS]

00:54:49   just for legos and his job is to sit [TS]

00:54:55   with little Lego bits and build new lego [TS]

00:55:00   cars for Lego like a second Imagineer [TS]

00:55:03   he's an Imagineer and then he sends [TS]

00:55:04   these things off and then lego produces [TS]

00:55:06   them as kits that's his job [TS]

00:55:09   I don't know where i met this guy some [TS]

00:55:11   guy picked up in a bar he picked me up [TS]

00:55:13   took me home [TS]

00:55:14   I don't have no idea how this that you [TS]

00:55:17   get a lego hook up but but I I but I met [TS]

00:55:20   this guy and and he showed me all of his [TS]

00:55:22   bins it was pretty hot [TS]

00:55:25   alright i'm looking at the pictures that [TS]

00:55:26   he sent okay here we go [TS]

00:55:29   some flicker a an old technology [TS]

00:55:32   oh my goodness look at you front and [TS]

00:55:35   center in your little restless uniform [TS]

00:55:40   you guys look so amazing [TS]

00:55:41   that's the same apprentice maybe a [TS]

00:55:43   seaman navigator and and you gave [TS]

00:55:45   everybody of the you gave everybody the [TS]

00:55:48   let's look at my favorite part is just [TS]

00:55:51   look at my hands [TS]

00:55:53   ya hear they're there they're crossed in [TS]

00:55:55   a very calm adult way from the guy the [TS]

00:55:58   guy to your left with the eyebrows yet [TS]

00:56:01   was I was it a plan Eric but maybe he [TS]

00:56:06   was my roommate we were in lines but [TS]

00:56:08   you'll be gave everybody the animal [TS]

00:56:10   house where are they now captions [TS]

00:56:12   well not me my friend John multidecadal [TS]

00:56:14   grass but no but I mean look at look at [TS]

00:56:16   look at every person that picture I mean [TS]

00:56:18   isn't this people they're gonna be very [TS]

00:56:19   dangerous someday [TS]

00:56:20   all right you know what I'm gonna have [TS]

00:56:22   to do i'm gonna have to dig up a [TS]

00:56:23   photograph of me in the Civil Air Patrol [TS]

00:56:25   same era is there is this your flight [TS]

00:56:28   suit wearing my dress blues [TS]

00:56:30   oh brother and I may even be standing at [TS]

00:56:34   attention and saluting the camera i was [TS]

00:56:37   on was on the drill team not know you [TS]

00:56:39   want the girls with thighs i have [TS]

00:56:40   marched i marched did move to the right [TS]

00:56:42   here in military school but if i'm not [TS]

00:56:44   mistaken these uniforms are navy [TS]

00:56:46   auxiliary uniform [TS]

00:56:48   we're in that we are in the wash like is [TS]

00:56:51   a NJ in JROTC right the naval Junior [TS]

00:56:57   ROTC at straight a's entire year so this [TS]

00:57:00   is how to satisfy don't have the red [TS]

00:57:02   star I don't you can see above my anchor [TS]

00:57:04   on my little anchor have a star at the [TS]

00:57:07   red four-star strays the radford star [TS]

00:57:09   the naval Junior ROTC the guy to my [TS]

00:57:12   right Glenn lucker that guy was looking [TS]

00:57:14   tough [TS]

00:57:15   yeah it looks good on look at all that [TS]

00:57:16   we call him a shot at how its and sour [TS]

00:57:18   chicken salad heavenly hash we call it [TS]

00:57:20   chicken him know on the each it got [TS]

00:57:23   scrambled eggs if it's on a hat but it [TS]

00:57:25   when it's a bunch of ribbons on the [TS]

00:57:26   front parents just called I don't let [TS]

00:57:28   your ribbons ribbons yeah easy shot he [TS]

00:57:31   was the company guidon i think it was [TS]

00:57:33   called accuse the flag carrier you are [TS]

00:57:35   very cute kid Merlin you haven't had a [TS]

00:57:37   very cute underbite who had a lot of [TS]

00:57:40   freckles [TS]

00:57:41   there's a lot of kids in this who's [TS]

00:57:42   ears are bigger than the rest of their [TS]

00:57:44   face yeah and Backlund maggio i think is [TS]

00:57:47   the most distinctive he's the one who [TS]

00:57:48   looks a little bit like Wally hands he's [TS]

00:57:50   got that kind of gentle touching hands [TS]

00:57:52   oh he does yeah but that bored what do [TS]

00:57:54   you think of that looks really simple [TS]

00:57:55   but you walk around with paper for like [TS]

00:57:57   11 hours trying to undermine your [TS]

00:57:58   friends [TS]

00:57:59   it's a lot like a reality show after [TS]

00:58:00   World War 1 / 1 Europe as writers all [TS]

00:58:03   the affection for pre World War One [TS]

00:58:04   europe i never understood it [TS]

00:58:06   this type of thing this this board game [TS]

00:58:08   playing and so forth because I board [TS]

00:58:13   game let's think for the most part I you [TS]

00:58:17   know when school was over I ran home [TS]

00:58:20   that's what you're being chased [TS]

00:58:24   no no because I big change because it's [TS]

00:58:30   a prescription chicken with my elbows in [TS]

00:58:34   my side and my hands down [TS]

00:58:37   stop like a jockey caper [TS]

00:58:43   no I ran home because I because my first [TS]

00:58:50   air w wouldn't do this [TS]

00:58:52   I was so consumed with the little my [TS]

00:58:54   imaginary life the life of my [TS]

00:58:56   imagination that interacting with other [TS]

00:58:59   kids around the topic of of world war [TS]

00:59:04   one or like or who's going to take over [TS]

00:59:06   Europe would have been so it was it it [TS]

00:59:09   was unimaginable to me that would be [TS]

00:59:12   more fun than me just sitting alone in [TS]

00:59:14   my room staring at the wall imagining [TS]

00:59:16   myself taking over Europe [TS]

00:59:22   oh my gosh I should've peed first I want [TS]

00:59:25   to hear so much about first of all you [TS]

00:59:29   are you know it's a word that we've all [TS]

00:59:30   learned in the last week was fabulous [TS]

00:59:32   how true is that kind of it's really [TS]

00:59:37   true for real [TS]

00:59:39   it's so true how much did you know if I [TS]

00:59:41   could say for background where are you [TS]

00:59:42   know we're talking about when you're 11 [TS]

00:59:43   12 13 and so you had at this point even [TS]

00:59:47   so you your steep as you said you were [TS]

00:59:49   literally he said you're literally [TS]

00:59:50   steeped in military history [TS]

00:59:52   yeah so you ever had you already knew [TS]

00:59:55   your father shot Japanese zero out of [TS]

00:59:57   the sky with a 45 right it's [TS]

00:59:57   the sky with a 45 right it's [TS]

01:00:00   we're already surrounded with truly [TS]

01:00:01   truly astounding stories during that [TS]

01:00:04   period from fourth grade 2 10th grade [TS]

01:00:08   when when they said it very brief window [TS]

01:00:11   3.42 10th grade [TS]

01:00:14   whenever I was assigned a research [TS]

01:00:16   project i would write up i would write a [TS]

01:00:20   paper on some aspect of world war one or [TS]

01:00:22   war two and in tenth grade I started to [TS]

01:00:26   write about Marxism but from fourth [TS]

01:00:30   grade to tonight's great let's say I [TS]

01:00:33   just I i wrote I wrote a hundred reports [TS]

01:00:36   on world war 2 in world war one so i [TS]

01:00:39   would sit and I night my my [TS]

01:00:41   understanding of those things was very [TS]

01:00:43   incomplete still but I had the had the [TS]

01:00:46   sense that Hitler had made it had made a [TS]

01:00:49   mistake not it or had made a mistake [TS]

01:00:50   invading russia that that i did not [TS]

01:00:57   fully understand like the Russian [TS]

01:00:59   contribution to the war but I understood [TS]

01:01:02   that the Japanese had made a mistake in [TS]

01:01:03   bombing Pearl Harbor and I would I just [TS]

01:01:08   you know I repeat the mistake a mistake [TS]

01:01:10   beyond that wasn't very nice but a [TS]

01:01:11   tactical like waking the sleeping giant [TS]

01:01:14   well a little bit and and and [TS]

01:01:17   particularly like the the idea that the [TS]

01:01:21   idea of the the Navy the Navy's of all [TS]

01:01:24   these countries in 1938 we're still very [TS]

01:01:27   battleship oriented you know the [TS]

01:01:30   battleship was the was right the leader [TS]

01:01:33   of the fleet it was the flagship of the [TS]

01:01:35   commander of the fleet all because the [TS]

01:01:37   party because the planes couldn't go as [TS]

01:01:39   far and supplies had to go somewhere [TS]

01:01:41   it wasn't the same kind of air based [TS]

01:01:43   warfare even then that wouldn't happen [TS]

01:01:45   today that had never that hadn't [TS]

01:01:47   happened still slog in some ways right [TS]

01:01:48   everybody's for everybody's always [TS]

01:01:50   fighting the last war who so before the [TS]

01:01:53   war it was like battleship battleship [TS]

01:01:55   battleship battleship and there was a [TS]

01:01:57   growing understanding that aircraft [TS]

01:01:59   carriers we're going to play a bigger [TS]

01:02:00   role but but still everybody was fixated [TS]

01:02:04   on the battleship so they attacked Pearl [TS]

01:02:05   Harbor and they destroyed all of our [TS]

01:02:09   battleships [TS]

01:02:10   but it ended up that aircraft carriers [TS]

01:02:13   were the definitive certainly in the [TS]

01:02:15   Pacific aircraft carriers with the [TS]

01:02:17   definitive ship and when we sank for [TS]

01:02:21   carriers at the Battle of Midway for you [TS]

01:02:23   know Japanese carriers they never [TS]

01:02:25   recovered from that so there-there error [TS]

01:02:30   was thinking that that they could sink [TS]

01:02:32   our fleet quote-unquote and basically [TS]

01:02:35   put us out of the war in the Pacific but [TS]

01:02:37   they didn't get a single carrier at [TS]

01:02:40   Pearl Harbor [TS]

01:02:41   Oh interested not sink a single American [TS]

01:02:45   carrier can just get a general question [TS]

01:02:47   serious general question tom is battle [TS]

01:02:50   ship is that a general term like what's [TS]

01:02:53   it what's a destroyer to destroy is a [TS]

01:02:55   kind of battleship it's a small fast [TS]

01:02:58   ship yeah a battleship is one is [TS]

01:03:01   something like the USS Iowa that has [TS]

01:03:03   giant cannons that is it closer to like [TS]

01:03:07   a sea-based base of operations for other [TS]

01:03:10   ships [TS]

01:03:11   I mean with your the command guy if [TS]

01:03:13   you're like an admiral and you're going [TS]

01:03:14   to run next on amaranth i guess but i [TS]

01:03:16   mean you don't saying like I you know [TS]

01:03:18   like so even if you're an admiral the [TS]

01:03:21   battleship would be the center of a [TS]

01:03:23   flotilla operates an operation ok so [TS]

01:03:25   maybe i'll shut up for fucking minute [TS]

01:03:27   and we give me to superfast rough as [TS]

01:03:29   fast as you like to rough taxonomy of [TS]

01:03:31   fighting at sea because I don't really [TS]

01:03:32   understand it well in the old in the old [TS]

01:03:35   days you you brought your ships up to [TS]

01:03:39   within range of your guns and the your [TS]

01:03:42   enemy ships would be a raid opposite you [TS]

01:03:45   and you would fire fusillade of cannon [TS]

01:03:50   shells at one another until somebody [TS]

01:03:52   sank the other guy you know like really [TS]

01:03:55   just get within range of your guns and [TS]

01:03:58   go that's the equivalent like two guys [TS]

01:04:01   fighting with clubs just he's gonna last [TS]

01:04:02   longer before they go down [TS]

01:04:04   yeah and two little fleets I mean you [TS]

01:04:05   know battleship would never be sitting [TS]

01:04:07   out there in the open it would always be [TS]

01:04:08   surrounded by destroyers and you know a [TS]

01:04:12   tenders and pocket battleships and all [TS]

01:04:15   these other little you know every [TS]

01:04:16   different size of the ship but at the [TS]

01:04:19   time you had one yet he had different [TS]

01:04:22   sizes of cake [TS]

01:04:24   women and torpedoes that was that was [TS]

01:04:28   what you had to work with open minds i [TS]

01:04:29   guess you could lay mines right before [TS]

01:04:32   that was naval warfare that was what you [TS]

01:04:35   would want you in mind like a harbor you [TS]

01:04:37   and minding mines were mostly defensive [TS]

01:04:39   right [TS]

01:04:40   no no you could you could you could mind [TS]

01:04:43   the english channel as long as before [TS]

01:04:45   submarines were heavily used you can [TS]

01:04:47   also use mine just take out a ship my [TS]

01:04:49   mind big for submarines eventually right [TS]

01:04:51   but I mean this is for ships I thought [TS]

01:04:52   you might like a harbor you absolutely [TS]

01:04:54   mind Harbor but you could you could mine [TS]

01:04:57   anywhere that you didn't think your own [TS]

01:04:59   ships would go like mining I think [TS]

01:05:01   mining was channel would be a bad idea [TS]

01:05:03   because everybody's using it so it would [TS]

01:05:05   be that would be much more than like [TS]

01:05:06   mining chick-fil-a that's how would be [TS]

01:05:08   much more than an anarchic war strategy [TS]

01:05:12   like you know what fuck everybody that's [TS]

01:05:14   it that's it that's it that's the jet [TS]

01:05:15   the Japanese 1945 kind of questions like [TS]

01:05:18   fucking combined we're just we're gonna [TS]

01:05:21   we're gonna lose this shit and style but [TS]

01:05:24   when you got to the point where ships [TS]

01:05:26   had first of all cannons that could fire [TS]

01:05:28   over the horizon and then of course [TS]

01:05:32   submarines and airplanes you know your [TS]

01:05:35   strategy and the importance of a fleet [TS]

01:05:37   really changed if you if you could [TS]

01:05:40   station an aircraft carrier somewhere [TS]

01:05:42   you [TS]

01:05:43   I mean you basically could contribute [TS]

01:05:46   you can what war two tortoises if you [TS]

01:05:49   control the air you control the whole [TS]

01:05:51   game and and I mean we still practice [TS]

01:05:56   this form of aircraft carrier diplomacy [TS]

01:05:59   the United States is that is the main [TS]

01:06:01   practitioner of the world war one the [TS]

01:06:03   plane thing was to tell if i'm wrong but [TS]

01:06:04   the painting was still pretty novel and [TS]

01:06:06   not nearly as reliable as it would be [TS]

01:06:08   yeah don't [TS]

01:06:10   airplanes are like me now at [TS]

01:06:15   at like the Bombers in world war one [TS]

01:06:19   seriously there's a guy who leaned out [TS]

01:06:22   of the open and shower job they shot the [TS]

01:06:25   bomb captain exactly held a bomb at arms [TS]

01:06:28   like it was like I'm take that there was [TS]

01:06:31   actually like a bowling ball with a few [TS]

01:06:33   it's you know there was no take that [TS]

01:06:36   Jerry yeah like step ones were a bigger [TS]

01:06:41   factor i love Zeppelin's about world war [TS]

01:06:43   one in terms of bomb [TS]

01:06:45   um but it in the you know by the time [TS]

01:06:48   World War two came along the airplanes [TS]

01:06:50   that was the whole war but they look [TS]

01:06:52   like they came up with the technology to [TS]

01:06:54   be able like fire fire fire your fire [TS]

01:06:56   between the propeller I mean it wasn't [TS]

01:06:58   like a really big deal you don't like [TS]

01:07:00   synchronized that CD she propeller oh [TS]

01:07:02   yeah well because before before they had [TS]

01:07:04   the synchronized guns they had to mount [TS]

01:07:06   the either mounted machine guns on top [TS]

01:07:09   of the other wing of the biplane yes [TS]

01:07:11   training training with that yeah so [TS]

01:07:13   you're flying with your flying with one [TS]

01:07:14   hand and you reach up and grab the [TS]

01:07:16   trigger of the gun and I like right try [TS]

01:07:19   this try walking out try holding 238 at [TS]

01:07:22   arm's length and try to hit something [TS]

01:07:23   within a couple shots are 238 up above [TS]

01:07:26   your head like like you're like a robert [TS]

01:07:30   rodriguez make that area take that chair [TS]

01:07:34   I'm sorry I got you off it safely it's [TS]

01:07:37   like it's like it's like the infantry in [TS]

01:07:39   the sense that there's this big massive [TS]

01:07:41   thing there's the outline get the spies [TS]

01:07:43   a lot of this for me comes for strategic [TS]

01:07:45   stratego so forgive me but you've got [TS]

01:07:47   like you know like I like Kennedy like [TS]

01:07:49   the book Kennedy was in was for doing [TS]

01:07:50   close-in attacks BBT but would go like a [TS]

01:07:53   PT boat would go flight you told me this [TS]

01:07:55   you go getting real close and sneak in a [TS]

01:07:57   little attacking what it was a torpedo [TS]

01:07:59   boat so it was basically a fast and [TS]

01:08:01   torpedoes out of that little boat [TS]

01:08:03   yeah they had they had torpedoes [TS]

01:08:05   actually on the deck in tubes and they [TS]

01:08:08   would happen you know they had really [TS]

01:08:09   powerful motors would boats that would [TS]

01:08:12   just get up on steps so dangerous it was [TS]

01:08:15   incredible they would they would they [TS]

01:08:16   would weave in between the mines get [TS]

01:08:19   into a harbor and they're flying between [TS]

01:08:23   these boats at night guys are shooting [TS]

01:08:24   at him in the dark and they're like [TS]

01:08:26   unleashing torpedoes at [TS]

01:08:28   that ships that are like in Harbor it [TS]

01:08:30   was it was totally ball z game the PT [TS]

01:08:33   boats but but before before world war [TS]

01:08:37   one certainly and even up to war two [TS]

01:08:39   ships like what other way was there to [TS]

01:08:44   assert your colonial authority over your [TS]

01:08:48   far-flung territories then with your [TS]

01:08:50   Navy who you know you if you if you had [TS]

01:08:53   if if if you had a colonial governor in [TS]

01:08:58   goa you took him there on a ship and you [TS]

01:09:02   maintain your your hedge emoni over that [TS]

01:09:04   territory by having a navy and that was [TS]

01:09:08   so you're new so control of the Seas was [TS]

01:09:12   control of the world and write you would [TS]

01:09:14   have these days of economies of scale [TS]

01:09:16   also write any ships obviously have [TS]

01:09:18   different shapes different purposes but [TS]

01:09:19   but but this is what Spain did right i [TS]

01:09:21   mean that ability to control the Seas [TS]

01:09:23   whether that was with trade [TS]

01:09:26   I mean you needed things if you're going [TS]

01:09:27   to trade with a ship you've got to have [TS]

01:09:29   you can have multiple not defensive [TS]

01:09:33   ships right i mean you got to protect [TS]

01:09:34   those ships there's gotta be a way of [TS]

01:09:36   making sure that this the ship full of [TS]

01:09:38   gold and spices or whatever is not gonna [TS]

01:09:41   just get hijacked by whoever comes along [TS]

01:09:42   exactly what that is that's the the [TS]

01:09:45   birth of insurance the entire concept of [TS]

01:09:48   the insurance industry was born in italy [TS]

01:09:52   during the Renaissance when you had all [TS]

01:09:55   of these ships and it the this Italian [TS]

01:09:58   you know a navy that was trading all [TS]

01:10:02   around the world and people realize like [TS]

01:10:05   I'm invested my entire fortune is in [TS]

01:10:09   this one boat full of frankincense and [TS]

01:10:13   if it goes down I'm I'm ruined [TS]

01:10:16   but if I pull my money with some other [TS]

01:10:19   guys who have their ships floating [TS]

01:10:22   around and we all get together and kind [TS]

01:10:24   of like it decrease our risk by being [TS]

01:10:27   partners and and and share share the [TS]

01:10:31   concept of shared risk [TS]

01:10:33   was you know it basically invented in [TS]

01:10:36   his studies [TS]

01:10:37   it is so interesting and so far away [TS]

01:10:40   from what it means today my god that's [TS]

01:10:42   unbelievable [TS]

01:10:43   yeah yeah so it was just a way of of [TS]

01:10:45   people who now were trading today we [TS]

01:10:47   just assume that nobody ever get sick [TS]

01:10:49   yeah let's see available to imagine like [TS]

01:10:52   I i have i've worked my entire life I've [TS]

01:10:55   got this bag of gold and i'm going to [TS]

01:10:57   buy peace these this blue painted [TS]

01:11:01   porcelain china and i'm going to try and [TS]

01:11:03   sell it for a profit here in in Florence [TS]

01:11:05   and then the ship gets attacked by [TS]

01:11:10   pirates in the Straits of Malacca and [TS]

01:11:13   you're like oh oops that was it or you [TS]

01:11:17   know I mean so anyway and and the fact [TS]

01:11:20   that the spanish armada was what was [TS]

01:11:23   sunk by that's that freak storm as I had [TS]

01:11:27   happened and Elizabeth's England was [TS]

01:11:29   preserved like to talk about the tides [TS]

01:11:33   of history tells us it's virgin this [TS]

01:11:34   isn't james burke shit talking about a [TS]

01:11:36   turning point if God did not love [TS]

01:11:39   England the spanish armada would have [TS]

01:11:43   survived and we would this would be a [TS]

01:11:45   whole different world with the fucking [TS]

01:11:47   English for so long they had so many [TS]

01:11:49   they had so many things to make them [TS]

01:11:50   feel that they were really lucky really [TS]

01:11:52   did was really really they were merely [TS]

01:11:54   lucky they stood on the shore and they [TS]

01:11:56   watch this Armada of Spanish ships [TS]

01:11:57   approaching they get to see them coming [TS]

01:12:00   see them coming and it was the largest [TS]

01:12:03   Armada ever mounted England was [TS]

01:12:06   straight-up thought and then of freak [TS]

01:12:10   storm destroyed the armana how do you [TS]

01:12:16   account for this Merlin if it is not [TS]

01:12:18   that God loves England i'm sitting here [TS]

01:12:20   thinking about it i'm not a papist I'm [TS]

01:12:21   not an Anglican I'm trying to figure [TS]

01:12:23   this out [TS]

01:12:24   yeah now you see the Germans the Germans [TS]

01:12:26   what you know worship berries you have [TS]

01:12:28   to do you think and you think a country [TS]

01:12:30   full of the Anglican right nutrition [TS]

01:12:32   England is that where we call it [TS]

01:12:34   thank ya wanna see implicants we thought [TS]

01:12:37   episcopal because we're not Catholic [TS]

01:12:39   light media we we tried to make a little [TS]

01:12:42   division between us and england [TS]

01:12:44   boy tried that but yeah you know I I [TS]

01:12:47   know your big believer in the power of [TS]

01:12:48   prayer but that boy that's that's [TS]

01:12:50   unbelievable it is miraculous ok so my [TS]

01:12:52   question to you [TS]

01:12:53   december 7041 where the carriers with in [TS]

01:12:56   Seattle [TS]

01:12:57   haha haha the big question how the wrong [TS]

01:13:00   place asshole haha they were Arizona she [TS]

01:13:04   marries they were in San Francisco and [TS]

01:13:06   they were you know they were arrayed [TS]

01:13:08   kind of a round but we but it was still [TS]

01:13:11   unclear that carriers were were so [TS]

01:13:13   important let's find out where the [TS]

01:13:15   carriers were that's a great that's a [TS]

01:13:16   great question [TS]

01:13:17   they weren't in pearl harbor they were [TS]

01:13:19   at sea they were everywhere but there [TS]

01:13:23   this is getting ahold of the show and my [TS]

01:13:25   congratulations to us on keeping the [TS]

01:13:27   Hitler going up but the person you know [TS]

01:13:29   what somebody said to me the other day [TS]

01:13:30   they listened to our Hitler episode [TS]

01:13:32   there like units numbered talk about [TS]

01:13:33   Hitler at all [TS]

01:13:34   I'll please well that's the Austrian in [TS]

01:13:37   the room [TS]

01:13:38   come on Hitler you don't have to you [TS]

01:13:40   have to talk about Hitler to be talking [TS]

01:13:42   about Hitler if you know what I mean [TS]

01:13:43   no no they say when you stop talking [TS]

01:13:44   about nuclear war and that's when [TS]

01:13:45   everybody's worried that some kind i [TS]

01:13:49   don't be a dick about it could ask to [TS]

01:13:50   point out two two two syllables and [TS]

01:13:53   stuff em and stuff it's Hitler related [TS]

01:13:56   stuff often and learning stuff right now [TS]

01:13:58   is tough [TS]

01:13:59   there's been some question as to whether [TS]

01:14:01   stuff has one effort to alert install [TS]

01:14:04   two questions like I cancer free right [TS]

01:14:05   now first of all it is ' and it's and [TS]

01:14:08   second of all these 2s and stuff for [TS]

01:14:10   fear and often fluffin often slip [TS]

01:14:12   yeah dude perfect oh no white polish we [TS]

01:14:16   should spell with this this this cool [TS]

01:14:18   esas yeah there's no learning us to [TS]

01:14:22   learn students may be like in Congress [TS]

01:14:26   right we could do it the ligature or [TS]

01:14:28   something up [TS]

01:14:31   ah yeah let's go need a thing you know [TS]

01:14:34   about all the 88 thing what is the [TS]

01:14:36   eighth thing into infinity [TS]

01:14:38   um that's pretty good you took it turned [TS]

01:14:41   it literally you took them and turn them [TS]

01:14:43   omgawd 8i guess [TS]

01:14:48   this is a test think it is 88 white [TS]

01:14:50   supremacy you know what this is going to [TS]

01:14:53   have to mean all the show I don't really [TS]

01:14:55   follow the whole white supremacist [TS]

01:14:56   numerological like code system as much [TS]

01:15:01   as I should [TS]

01:15:01   one of the very first things i use my [TS]

01:15:03   computer for in one box finally bought [TS]

01:15:05   my own computer and like 1988 i had my [TS]

01:15:07   first mac with your floppy disks and [TS]

01:15:09   where the first things they did I bought [TS]

01:15:10   this book up about like the little pale [TS]

01:15:13   horse know now is that George RR George [TS]

01:15:17   Martin [TS]

01:15:17   now behold the behold a pale horse is a [TS]

01:15:20   like the the crucial conspiracy theory [TS]

01:15:24   book the best the one that that has all [TS]

01:15:27   the documentation that ties the [TS]

01:15:29   Trilateral Commission to the the oh my [TS]

01:15:33   god i got the Trilateral Commission talk [TS]

01:15:35   around the time i was in diplomacy club [TS]

01:15:36   oh I had a very interesting to talk [TS]

01:15:38   about ah yes before I knew about batshit [TS]

01:15:40   insanity i had a very interesting talk [TS]

01:15:42   with my parents take house but I fear [TS]

01:15:44   you just go horse if i'm not mistaken [TS]

01:15:46   our scholars pale rider no pillars at it [TS]

01:15:51   it ties all of the the Masons and [TS]

01:15:53   everything together and then makes a [TS]

01:15:55   very compelling case that in fact all of [TS]

01:15:58   these groups are working at the behest [TS]

01:16:00   of our extraterrestrial overloads oh [TS]

01:16:04   that's tiny since it is very tidy [TS]

01:16:08   it's a unified field theory of bananas [TS]

01:16:10   that's correct and it and and i read [TS]

01:16:13   this book at a time when I was doing a [TS]

01:16:14   lot of recreational use of oh that [TS]

01:16:20   already mined real human real open to [TS]

01:16:23   new ideas [TS]

01:16:24   yeah exactly and this is iris I was [TS]

01:16:26   smoking a lot of I was enjoying that [TS]

01:16:28   with an appeals open my mind a lot in [TS]

01:16:30   1988 well this was this often with Plan [TS]

01:16:33   B and this was when I was making the [TS]

01:16:35   transition from all of the nice drugs [TS]

01:16:38   that allow one to play frisbee for [TS]

01:16:40   several hours without ever wondering [TS]

01:16:43   what you're doing with your life [TS]

01:16:44   oh all of those nice kind drugs that [TS]

01:16:48   make that make you think that you can [TS]

01:16:50   talk to dogs [TS]

01:16:52   and i was i was trying to teach me [TS]

01:16:54   amazing the kind of thing that makes you [TS]

01:16:57   capture cockatiel in the shop for [TS]

01:16:58   exactly who doesn't look that that's a [TS]

01:17:01   great way to feel you just wonder what [TS]

01:17:03   you do today I felt on the shower trying [TS]

01:17:04   to catch a cockatiel just I just wanted [TS]

01:17:07   to just wanted to give I didn't want to [TS]

01:17:09   hurt him i wanted to get with him so [TS]

01:17:10   that we could have an understanding but [TS]

01:17:12   then I was not suddenly changed I was [TS]

01:17:14   transitioning from those drugs too bad [TS]

01:17:17   drugs drugs that are made by human [TS]

01:17:19   beings that are full of evil forces you [TS]

01:17:23   used to smoke and then getting a bathtub [TS]

01:17:25   and now you're getting stuff that was [TS]

01:17:27   made in a bathtub that you smoke [TS]

01:17:29   that's exactly right and stuff that once [TS]

01:17:31   you so much you just shot want to get in [TS]

01:17:33   a bathtub at all didn't want to do [TS]

01:17:35   anything nice didn't want to play [TS]

01:17:36   frisbee you did not think you could talk [TS]

01:17:38   to dogs making real focused and not want [TS]

01:17:40   to play frisbee dogs are looking at you [TS]

01:17:42   in a way that you that makes you very [TS]

01:17:43   uncomfortable and it was during that [TS]

01:17:45   period that i read the whole pale horse [TS]

01:17:47   bad timing i was i was obviously you [TS]

01:17:50   know i did not even even doing these [TS]

01:17:53   terrible things did not make me into a [TS]

01:17:55   stupid person who believed that the [TS]

01:17:56   aliens were controlling our government [TS]

01:17:58   through them through the Masons but it i [TS]

01:18:02   did at one point lying in bed under a [TS]

01:18:06   spell [TS]

01:18:06   let's say of sub various like powders I [TS]

01:18:11   lay in bed and I said to myself if [TS]

01:18:14   because my apartment was right into the [TS]

01:18:16   flight pattern for the local airport i [TS]

01:18:19   said to myself self if aliens were [TS]

01:18:25   transacting daily business with America [TS]

01:18:29   would they know [TS]

01:18:32   not disguise their spaceships as 747 if [TS]

01:18:38   they disguised them as something like a [TS]

01:18:42   bowl of fruit [TS]

01:18:43   it would seem pretty weird that the [TS]

01:18:45   fruit was flying if you need something [TS]

01:18:47   to fly and have it not seem weird [TS]

01:18:49   you're either gonna be a bird work or [TS]

01:18:51   football or a plane maybe even maybe [TS]

01:18:56   even maybe it could be a minute to be a [TS]

01:18:58   passenger plane isn't getting anywhere [TS]

01:19:01   in eastern so you're not going to hover [TS]

01:19:03   your like anti-gravity orbit over the [TS]

01:19:07   center of the city if you don't want [TS]

01:19:09   them to know that you're here you just [TS]

01:19:11   change your anti-gravity orbit into the [TS]

01:19:14   shape of a 747 and you make it very loud [TS]

01:19:18   and you fly it right over the top of all [TS]

01:19:21   the people you want to drive through a [TS]

01:19:23   factory in the middle of the night you [TS]

01:19:24   don't go through a fucking clown car you [TS]

01:19:26   get a blue van you drive through like a [TS]

01:19:28   gentleman nobody needs to wave you [TS]

01:19:29   through your not in a black jetta you [TS]

01:19:31   are in a blue van [TS]

01:19:32   likewise we should have said that I [TS]

01:19:35   related and so I'm lying in bed and I up [TS]

01:19:37   with you know with various powders on my [TS]

01:19:40   person didn't I person and I'm thinking [TS]

01:19:43   to myself you know this is just a little [TS]

01:19:46   too sensible what I'm saying right now [TS]

01:19:50   and and I had to I had to quiet the [TS]

01:19:57   growing feeling I was having that maybe [TS]

01:19:59   people were living in the center of the [TS]

01:20:01   earth [TS]

01:20:03   how would a disguise that they would [TS]

01:20:06   pretend that they would pretend that [TS]

01:20:07   they're trolls or hobbits are some kind [TS]

01:20:09   of what we have in middle-earth John who [TS]

01:20:10   lives in middle earth is that what is [TS]

01:20:12   that where the hobbits live everybody [TS]

01:20:14   lives in middle-earth even the humans [TS]

01:20:15   lived there before the elves window [TS]

01:20:17   across the ocean [TS]

01:20:19   I guess number 5 elves and stuff LOL is [TS]

01:20:25   this right where is the shower is the [TS]

01:20:27   shower inside of the earth [TS]

01:20:28   shire well actually like a token guy the [TS]

01:20:32   shower is not inside the earth know the [TS]

01:20:34   Shires so the heights don't live in [TS]

01:20:36   middle-earth middle-earth only means [TS]

01:20:39   that it was in between the one place in [TS]

01:20:44   the other place [TS]

01:20:44   Oh like Midgard at it [TS]

01:20:46   is to ask card okay right so it wasn't [TS]

01:20:49   inside the earth know the shower was [TS]

01:20:51   just in the shower was really merry old [TS]

01:20:53   England let's be honest okay and but [TS]

01:20:54   they have their own son there at least [TS]

01:20:55   theoretically is I think it's the same [TS]

01:20:58   Sun I think it's like it never gets the [TS]

01:21:00   battlestar galactica of cosmology it [TS]

01:21:02   happened a long long time ago [TS]

01:21:05   oh you can you can cover up a lot of a [TS]

01:21:08   lot of Earth related inconsistencies by [TS]

01:21:09   putting it someplace else happened a [TS]

01:21:11   long time ago for instance a long long [TS]

01:21:13   time ago it was a regular occurrence for [TS]

01:21:16   God to come down to earth and meddle in [TS]

01:21:19   people's like what they were eating and [TS]

01:21:21   and where he was like kill your kid [TS]

01:21:24   oh no ya don't kill your kid haha oh [TS]

01:21:27   kill him nope don't so he was dressed up [TS]

01:21:29   like a bush for Moses when he came to [TS]

01:21:31   Abraham so to speak now he's just a [TS]

01:21:34   voice now the Rams in the thicket or the [TS]

01:21:35   physical silver the thicket but that was [TS]

01:21:37   just a voice of God telling him to kill [TS]

01:21:39   his child I but the thing is that and [TS]

01:21:41   that's the guy who started all religions [TS]

01:21:43   they got three religions based on the [TS]

01:21:44   guy who thought he should kill this kid [TS]

01:21:45   has a voice told him that's right well [TS]

01:21:48   and the and the problem is that this God [TS]

01:21:50   are routinely a said confusing things to [TS]

01:21:54   people but it was a long time ago and so [TS]

01:21:58   it makes perfect sense because it was a [TS]

01:22:01   long time ago old testament got kind of [TS]

01:22:03   a dick Old Testament God is a soup dream [TS]

01:22:08   asshole [TS]

01:22:09   yeah he's really terrible and you know [TS]

01:22:11   what New Testament God also very [TS]

01:22:13   confusing [TS]

01:22:14   it could be he could be a little uneven [TS]

01:22:15   my friend Dave did a very funny on radio [TS]

01:22:18   play based on job it was very very funny [TS]

01:22:21   and but I mean the closing line was so [TS]

01:22:23   what is the lesson of Joe likes to pitch [TS]

01:22:25   your friends are dicks and God's a [TS]

01:22:27   bettin man haha job is a pretty rough [TS]

01:22:31   rough slog if you really hear about it [TS]

01:22:34   it really is it really hard that some [TS]

01:22:36   people find that such an inspiring thing [TS]

01:22:38   is very very troubling to me into that [TS]

01:22:40   makes you are a problem like as on a [TS]

01:22:42   daily basis like what am I going to do [TS]

01:22:43   today [TS]

01:22:44   what's on my to-do list of jobs ass boy [TS]

01:22:47   I could really you know using job as a [TS]

01:22:49   model I could oh boy I could really go a [TS]

01:22:51   lot of different directions but but [TS]

01:22:53   honestly the the New Testament thing I [TS]

01:22:56   mean a lot of the stuff in the New [TS]

01:22:57   Testament is very smart it's it so it's [TS]

01:22:59   wonderful [TS]

01:23:00   the book I highly recommend it you know [TS]

01:23:02   what the brand hi I'm almost touching [TS]

01:23:04   that third rail [TS]

01:23:05   I'm very close i get very frustrated [TS]

01:23:06   about the Gospels because i think it's a [TS]

01:23:08   goddamn shame [TS]

01:23:09   yeah I'm it's a goddamn shame Hollis I [TS]

01:23:12   might have to cut this out again Arn I [TS]

01:23:13   you know what we're gonna do more name [TS]

01:23:15   fame taking well I'm just saying I mean [TS]

01:23:18   you know you don't have to be you know [TS]

01:23:20   Heraclitus to dip into the river you [TS]

01:23:22   know saying do hear what you're saying I [TS]

01:23:25   was not all of it sounded like the [TS]

01:23:26   description of an egg it woman that you [TS]

01:23:28   know from the on the wikipedia page for [TS]

01:23:30   eighty eight precepts ok what is it i [TS]

01:23:33   think i sent to hear em assists yeah [TS]

01:23:35   it's an essay or manifesto let's make up [TS]

01:23:37   our minds white supremacist written by [TS]

01:23:39   David Lane who has two first names [TS]

01:23:41   this is because of high Hitler h8 letter [TS]

01:23:46   of the alphabet ABC let's 8888 is [TS]

01:23:49   totally code i'm using white supremacist [TS]

01:23:51   now the important thing that you need to [TS]

01:23:53   know is that i pasted this into the [TS]

01:23:54   wrong window and right after my wife had [TS]

01:23:56   sent me a beautiful thing my daughter [TS]

01:23:57   made I sent her a link to think about [TS]

01:24:00   white supremacy we have to be careful [TS]

01:24:04   and not Jerry I'm gonna be careful the [TS]

01:24:07   internet what you said people are gonna [TS]

01:24:09   send him a little diagram of you making [TS]

01:24:11   horse another another picture of my team [TS]

01:24:15   is this is awkward i know they seem [TS]

01:24:19   especially since I was sticking like [TS]

01:24:21   pins and needles in it if you see my [TS]

01:24:23   horse head somebody sent me know [TS]

01:24:26   somebody said your said well i'm missing [TS]

01:24:28   you have not mr. Walt sense now know [TS]

01:24:30   somebody uh of a friend of a friend of [TS]

01:24:35   entry is freaky [TS]

01:24:38   I have this as bill most hey you've met [TS]

01:24:42   bill w uh here he was gone before I love [TS]

01:24:45   to have a drink with that guy sometimes [TS]

01:24:46   a little dr. Bob to those two guys [TS]

01:24:48   really had a muppet thing was dr. pop is [TS]

01:24:51   he trying to build w dr bob was Bill WS [TS]

01:24:53   first buddy we friend your friend Bill W [TS]

01:24:55   on some level right [TS]

01:24:56   oh yeah absolutely take it one day at a [TS]

01:24:58   time I still do [TS]

01:25:00   awesome ouch i almost put us on Twitter [TS]

01:25:02   god dammit i got too much communication [TS]

01:25:04   going on you know what you are social [TS]

01:25:06   networking like out your yin yang [TS]

01:25:08   it was clouding my tutor it's so hard [TS]

01:25:11   for me right now to social network I [TS]

01:25:13   really do yes this is very nice [TS]

01:25:15   yeah that's something i had my Amazon [TS]

01:25:18   wish list now you see my daughter where [TS]

01:25:21   my daughter my daughter who runs around [TS]

01:25:22   naked all the time I walked into the [TS]

01:25:24   room and she goes I and she was a naked [TS]

01:25:27   4-year old was wearing this extreme i [TS]

01:25:29   would say for a forty dollar product [TS]

01:25:31   that is an extremely realistic Horsehead [TS]

01:25:33   it's amazing and and i think it's it's [TS]

01:25:35   there on a chair it scares the shit out [TS]

01:25:36   of me if you were willing even you know [TS]

01:25:38   even and this is a very tricky thing [TS]

01:25:41   because as a father [TS]

01:25:43   there's nothing wrong with you making a [TS]

01:25:46   short film of your naked infant daughter [TS]

01:25:49   running around water do not but when you [TS]

01:25:53   try and sell that for ten thousand [TS]

01:25:54   dollars to a Japanese collector right [TS]

01:25:56   now you've crossed the line we're going [TS]

01:25:58   to want to see if the horse because the [TS]

01:25:59   Japanese laws [TS]

01:26:01   well what have you sold it wrapped in [TS]

01:26:02   the Horsehead uh hold z the collector no [TS]

01:26:08   horse this whore said yet to have a [TS]

01:26:11   meeting of the horse minds [TS]

01:26:12   I don't know there's horse people I I [TS]

01:26:15   joke about horses but look at those [TS]

01:26:17   nostrils what do you think of that I [TS]

01:26:19   think that's two more entry points than [TS]

01:26:21   a human e [TS]

01:26:25   like a speak at spankers [TS]

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