Roderick on the Line

Ep. 40: "Status Butter"

 

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  [Music] [TS]

  hello I John I'm Maryland how are you [TS]

  I'm good sound subdued mmm well it's so [TS]

  early food we're recording on a [TS]

  different day than usual and it's [TS]

  exactly the same time we usually record [TS]

  which is 20 minutes late just 120 [TS]

  minutes after we agreed to meet ya but [TS]

  the fact that it's a different day makes [TS]

  it feel really early do you anything [TS]

  differently to prepare for the show for [TS]

  recording do you do any kind of [TS]

  stretches or have any special angles you [TS]

  apply um i want what i do to prepare [TS]

  fresh as i wake up earlier than I [TS]

  normally would [TS]

  that is the preparation that I have I'm [TS]

  so sorry no no it's perfectly fine i [TS]

  should wake up before noon [TS]

  well I should be a good father Eric [TS]

  great father [TS]

  I you know what I have really mixed [TS]

  emotions about this first of all I am [TS]

  sorry i know you are sorry that's your [TS]

  primary emotion is a great was poorly i [TS]

  love you will say poorly poorly [TS]

  yeah yeah they say on Deadwood a lot i [TS]

  think its way people used to say I think [TS]

  maybe English people still say it on [TS]

  poorly today [TS]

  oh I'm poorly yeah like you know I'm [TS]

  feeling poorly no feeling poorly would [TS]

  be like the way my grandfather would say [TS]

  it [TS]

  well it's like the fashion that that [TS]

  swept our great nation to respond to the [TS]

  question how you doing uh-huh with well [TS]

  instead of good [TS]

  remember when we were kids if somebody [TS]

  said how ru you said good even get a [TS]

  problem with that [TS]

  no not at all but there was a there was [TS]

  a moment in time where someone decided [TS]

  that good was the with some you know [TS]

  someone started saying to their friends [TS]

  in an elementary school teachers voice [TS]

  you know properly we should say well [TS]

  instead of good sometimes use with your [TS]

  what's your what's your preference / [TS]

  beef like you like good i have no [TS]

  preference or beef [TS]

  it's just something that I that I am [TS]

  noting who that there that the use of [TS]

  well the supplant ation of good with [TS]

  well [TS]

  swept our country and now everywhere you [TS]

  go [TS]

  if you say to a barista how you doing [TS]

  today they go I'm well how are you [TS]

  yes right no one and and if somebody [TS]

  says if somebody says I'm good how are [TS]

  you [TS]

  generally most people say I'm well and [TS]

  it's a kind of it's a little bit of a [TS]

  like a it's a little bit because I [TS]

  talked about mrs. speaking people talk [TS]

  about mare it's like reaching its a [TS]

  grammar reach-around I met well then [TS]

  you're like oh you know it's interesting [TS]

  though is also just in hearing you say [TS]

  that bc good try to get the same here [TS]

  i'm well it you if you say I am well you [TS]

  can't help it sound like you paused in [TS]

  our little fancy that's right you paused [TS]

  and you were like should I be saying [TS]

  should be saying I or me [TS]

  I am what meet me and well well as I [TS]

  it's anybody know you know it's a really [TS]

  good point and I'm usually a bit of a [TS]

  stickler about those things [TS]

  yeah but the thing is it swept the [TS]

  country in such a way that the [TS]

  implication was that saying i am good [TS]

  was improper and in fact same i'm good [TS]

  is just fine i think that counts as [TS]

  vernacular and I got a safe if you're on [TS]

  track if you're feeling upbeat you know [TS]

  I'm well sounds like I'm undiagnosed [TS]

  haha he say I'm hey do you good and I [TS]

  think that's man that is efficient as [TS]

  shit that's so good [TS]

  it's like so well yeah I'm well I given [TS]

  gonna give you you know a bellingham but [TS]

  can i give you a-a bellingham ease [TS]

  reframe on this something I've heard an [TS]

  occasional benefits a correction or just [TS]

  not blocked a lot of it out but [TS]

  sometimes people will say you know well [TS]

  you know there's only one way to do good [TS]

  you know which is to tell you it's like [TS]

  you know shutout and that's the that's [TS]

  the that's the slap that's the slap [TS]

  engendering wave wave correcting people [TS]

  is that a little bit the Hemis you think [TS]

  there is no one in bellingham for the [TS]

  last seven years that has ever said they [TS]

  were good they all are well unless they [TS]

  worked at the magazine [TS]

  it is get a magazine called good i'm [TS]

  sure there is [TS]

  I'm sure it features local locally [TS]

  artist finely crafted it's beautifully [TS]

  designed of course i'm pretty sure al [TS]

  gore is involved again it's that the [TS]

  design like the magazine itself is [TS]

  extremely pleased with it [TS]

  yeah well I met and I think personally I [TS]

  feel like if you have if you have [TS]

  completely replaced describing yourself [TS]

  as doing good with describing yourself [TS]

  is doing well if you have completely [TS]

  replaced it [TS]

  I mean I i use the two interchangeably [TS]

  but if you if you can never ever say to [TS]

  somebody that you're doing good then [TS]

  you're a little pleased with yourself [TS]

  like people need to reintroduce that [TS]

  sometimes you know what the correct [TS]

  answer is that you're doing good and if [TS]

  you can't do that if you're if you're so [TS]

  convinced that well is the only proper [TS]

  response huh [TS]

  and your little precious and you need to [TS]

  check yourself oh and you know i'd like [TS]

  to see at the return of feeling fine up [TS]

  like that which is a little bit like [TS]

  certainly on the pie graph thirty [TS]

  percent is gonna that's gonna be you [TS]

  know towers snipers and white van people [TS]

  but you know i think that's that's kind [TS]

  of you see you in five somebody says how [TS]

  you doing yusei feeling fine and a [TS]

  cartoon rainbow doesn't come from behind [TS]

  you [TS]

  I'm like little cartoon birds are [TS]

  suddenly sitting around your head then [TS]

  you're not gonna answer your question [TS]

  give me three other ways to make a [TS]

  cartoon rainbow and birds appear without [TS]

  saying feeling fine [TS]

  it's an incantation of joy it is it [TS]

  really is although if your name is Uncle [TS]

  Remus why that's a dirty name you can [TS]

  you can conjure rainbows and birthdate [TS]

  and you know how do you mind the [TS]

  ping-pong that sounds like a porn name [TS]

  Remus I never thought of it that way Oh [TS]

  Uncle Remus I want to come back to my [TS]

  second reason was a local liquor driver [TS]

  i wanna come back to my a second reason [TS]

  that I I discussing like I feel bad [TS]

  about getting up early but coupl couple [TS]

  points [TS]

  these are two that I'm a little bit [TS]

  pedantic about just with me just with [TS]

  myself one that drives me a little bit [TS]

  crazy just to get it out of the way is [TS]

  people using [TS]

  and I in the object of a sentence [TS]

  give me an example Jim came to the [TS]

  abattoir with Lucille and I because [TS]

  people think they're there mrs. howl o [TS]

  thats turn and they were corrected so [TS]

  many times so it so many I think for [TS]

  some reason I as kids they think you [TS]

  think of yourself as me this is me this [TS]

  is for me because that you are the [TS]

  object of everything in the world [TS]

  another something someone hit you on the [TS]

  knuckles with a ruler for five years [TS]

  saying it's not me it's i right [TS]

  and now you now you do it without you [TS]

  don't he's going without understanding [TS]

  why you do without understanding the [TS]

  grammar and you use and I in situations [TS]

  I don't make it Japanese two hours [TS]

  getting a German but now I think you're [TS]

  thinking more about corporal punishment [TS]

  than you are about communicating clearly [TS]

  right for or or you're thinking more [TS]

  about now that you have been improperly [TS]

  school now [TS]

  now your job in the world is to go [TS]

  improperly school and now we're back in [TS]

  England with a spanking is contagious [TS]

  how can you have your putting when you [TS]

  don't eat your meat [TS]

  oh no you know you know what that are [TS]

  you got started without you are [TS]

  absolutely right now [TS]

  it absolutely and you know that start [TS]

  with him spitting on a fan spinning on a [TS]

  on a on a fan of the band we're going on [TS]

  down in an electric fan this is a reason [TS]

  that I would like roger waters and Mike [TS]

  love to being a super super band [TS]

  together because it was relieved me wen [TS]

  ru conflating robbed the great roger [TS]

  waters with mike no no I'm not [TS]

  complaining I'm just saying that they [TS]

  should both never stopped being hit by [TS]

  somebody maybe really o.o you know what [TS]

  we should come up with a new game you [TS]

  can pick up an electric fan that has [TS]

  like rubber gloves are at the end of [TS]

  popsicle sticks haha it's just this fan [TS]

  spins and the role of my god that's apt [TS]

  1132 on this day I want to keep it [TS]

  timeless this is the day that I figured [TS]

  out my first fucking Kickstarter i will [TS]

  give a nickel to and that is the Michael [TS]

  of slapping fan of my club slapping fan [TS]

  take off that hat [TS]

  you've been following since surfin USA [TS]

  take that thing off [TS]

  ok ok shoot i'm getting Deeping stack ok [TS]

  so first of all and i also want to [TS]

  provide our listeners John I'll never be [TS]

  as helpful as you but perhaps you can [TS]

  share with me what do you think this [TS]

  is as useful as i have found it so first [TS]

  of all only say I if it's in the subject [TS]

  of the sentence right i just think it's [TS]

  good things are done to me right object [TS]

  object and here's the really simple way [TS]

  I don't be panic i wanna be helpful but [TS]

  here's the thing take off the was like [TS]

  Stephanie what was the name and I forget [TS]

  to Lucille so you say Jim Jim came to [TS]

  the average war with Lucille and I take [TS]

  off Lucille and how would you say it [TS]

  would you say Jim came to the abattoir [TS]

  with I yes no you would not [TS]

  doesn't anyone football here's what's [TS]

  confusing because you would say Lucy [TS]

  when I went to the store and so people [TS]

  are people become accustomed to thinking [TS]

  that maybe there's two sure that that [TS]

  that that that little claws or that [TS]

  phrase that is is you can its mobile and [TS]

  you can use it as a subject or an object [TS]

  i bet you the Inuit don't have any [TS]

  problem with this was in order Eskimos [TS]

  with this one's a language and one is a [TS]

  docs letting people know there are [TS]

  Inuits and Eskimos this is complicated [TS]

  case [TS]

  ok my somebody people are all the time [TS]

  saying like saying to me because [TS]

  correcting you [TS]

  oh no they're not I don't directly but [TS]

  they're like so what about the what [TS]

  about those Aleuts up in the upper [TS]

  Eskimo country and I'm like you're [TS]

  getting it you're getting it wrong [TS]

  there are aliens there i say is you [TS]

  Allie you to cali out lu that's right [TS]

  the newest and Eskimos and at the [TS]

  Baskins which are Indians not an Eskimo [TS]

  people not am NOT a seafaring people the [TS]

  Athabascan that you wouldn't call those [TS]

  Indians Native Americans you would in [TS]

  fact you would call the at the Baskins [TS]

  well I you know what I don't call anyone [TS]

  Native Americans because i think it's a [TS]

  dumb three its own phrase but remember [TS]

  that show we could put up because I mean [TS]

  going off on african-american remember [TS]

  that [TS]

  and while you was justyou were just [TS]

  going off on everybody yeah it was great [TS]

  it was really it was really wonderful [TS]

  and maybe one day when the world has [TS]

  evolved to a place where people have [TS]

  enough understanding that they can [TS]

  appreciate that you don't like other [TS]

  races in your country now we can play [TS]

  that episode [TS]

  but anyway at the Baskins are asking [TS]

  they are related to like the Shoshoni I [TS]

  mean they're related to the Indians that [TS]

  live in the continental United States [TS]

  whereas the Inuits and the Aleuts are [TS]

  more what you would call that in fact i [TS]

  think they are closer a genetic [TS]

  genetically to the southeast Pacific [TS]

  island people there they are seafaring [TS]

  people from the coasts who arrived in [TS]

  boats kind of Pangaea kev elution can [TS]

  keep up with us a little bit past a [TS]

  little bit after Pangaea about land [TS]

  bridge what you're thinking of his land [TS]

  bridge you're thinking I that's when [TS]

  they walked like from the from the [TS]

  former Soviet Union to Anchorage correct [TS]

  ok correct deliver Soviets picking my [TS]

  third one [TS]

  yeah let's do this one is a personal [TS]

  mission and this is more of something [TS]

  that I would like to try and advocate [TS]

  for or as the grammarian to say that i'd [TS]

  like to advocate for which you would for [TS]

  which like to advocate ok John thank you [TS]

  yes what do you say you want [TS]

  thank you thank you for sitting you know [TS]

  what thank you for saying thank you for [TS]

  saying you're welcome [TS]

  I've realized i'm becoming troubled by [TS]

  no problem no problem [TS]

  think about it thank you no problem well [TS]

  you know what you know we're at white [TS]

  where I think that's coming from it's [TS]

  coming from the ubiquitous Donata oh you [TS]

  find that ubiquitous well the it is no [TS]

  longer ubiquitous but there was a there [TS]

  was a time there in the eighties and [TS]

  early nineties when the kind of Jimmy [TS]

  Buffett ization of the Southwest was [TS]

  happening and everybody was wearing puka [TS]

  shells and there was a lot of de nada [TS]

  happening then I hey a Cheech Donata I [TS]

  think that a little bit Spicoli to it [TS]

  too [TS]

  there's some Spicoli to it and I think [TS]

  it just at that has passed that the that [TS]

  dark cloud has passed in America but i [TS]

  think one of the residuals of it is that [TS]

  people said no problem now what they [TS]

  mean is you're welcome [TS]

  and is it the to the to that it may be [TS]

  worse than that [TS]

  one-eyed wha-what waitstaff not a [TS]

  problem [TS]

  oh yeah but what the fuck does that mean [TS]

  thank you [TS]

  not a problem but yeah well I'm i [TS]

  believe in that is that there's a wait [TS]

  staff in America at least have been [TS]

  trained by one another [TS]

  I know I know outside force but they [TS]

  trained one another to think that they [TS]

  are an oppressed class of of artists and [TS]

  poets who have been forced into waiting [TS]

  who have been forced into servitude do [TS]

  by an unjust system so every time you [TS]

  say hey thanks you know thanks for that [TS]

  glass of water then I asked for 11 [TS]

  minutes ago and they say not a problem [TS]

  but they're what they're trying to say [TS]

  to you is I shouldn't be waiting tables [TS]

  I should be on the big stage [TS]

  that's good i should be on what Donna's [TS]

  dancers and it's like no you shouldn't [TS]

  you should have brought me this glass of [TS]

  water four minutes ago right after I [TS]

  asked for [TS]

  oh boy this is something that's the big [TS]

  card and then finally I just wanna leave [TS]

  often this is this is seriously [TS]

  punchable a beach bar or taqueria or [TS]

  briefs to shit [TS]

  mom it's all good it's all good i really [TS]

  don't like it's all good in any form or [TS]

  fashion but especially and now so anyway [TS]

  now let me ask you this here's the big [TS]

  one and this is the one I struggle with [TS]

  this is 10 * often it's not talking you [TS]

  know what [TS]

  hey shaka-brah rape she put the shell a [TS]

  date rape you gotta throw that whenever [TS]

  someone says thank you just made a very [TS]

  attractive very popular way to do it you [TS]

  know carrots and a drape the arm okay [TS]

  and then here's the final causes tedious [TS]

  and cut all this out and this is the one [TS]

  where I suffer because here's my feeling [TS]

  is that when someone says thank you [TS]

  you should respond by saying you're [TS]

  welcome and you know what my biggest [TS]

  offender is if you don't mind would you [TS]

  please say thank you thank you thank you [TS]

  oh right that's very belling him it's [TS]

  well and it's very it's very waitstaff [TS]

  II like it you know what I mean it'sit's [TS]

  and but I don't mind that one so much [TS]

  but i think i can do you know what I [TS]

  think I'm capable of better and i think [TS]

  that we as a culture are better and more [TS]

  device has been on wait staff Jon I [TS]

  think what we're saying is we're not [TS]

  simply teaching each other as wait staff [TS]

  to be passive aggressive because we're [TS]

  not on Broadway so to speak but I think [TS]

  we're also developing a kind of cultural [TS]

  inbreeding where there's nobody that's [TS]

  intervening to say you know what it's [TS]

  okay to be a professional waiter [TS]

  no i didn't i say server i did not say [TS]

  waitron that John not brought us the [TS]

  states that place you remember he [TS]

  brought us he brought his friend on a [TS]

  plate with giant nights he said he was [TS]

  that he was a middle-aged man he was an [TS]

  old he was older than we were and he had [TS]

  dignity and he had it great how many [TS]

  times well you know what we should take [TS]

  you out of doing this but i think it's i [TS]

  think it's more i think the epidemic is [TS]

  worse in the sense that no one in [TS]

  America now and buy it when I say no one [TS]

  in America I mean none of the none of [TS]

  the shitty overeducated west coast [TS]

  people that we know uh huh and the [TS]

  shitty overeducated east coast people [TS]

  who have been imitating shitty [TS]

  overeducated west coast people for 20 [TS]

  years [TS]

  none of these people can accept a thank [TS]

  you [TS]

  it isn't a bit isn't it it's not just a [TS]

  problem of of of all the many different [TS]

  problems we've we've elucidated so far [TS]

  it is that what they have convinced [TS]

  themselves that to be thanked in that [TS]

  way is in itself a kind of classism or [TS]

  its they don't want to be put on I think [TS]

  this is behind your like thank you [TS]

  you don't have to absolutely become [TS]

  uncomfortable even in even being put in [TS]

  a position of power so great as to be [TS]

  thanked for something that you did no I [TS]

  I a man worthy and I reject your [TS]

  colonialism right which is why I want [TS]

  people say thank you to me sometimes I [TS]

  will respond with it was my pleasure [TS]

  oh now I think that's lovely or them [TS]

  that you know what else I like the [TS]

  pleasure was online [TS]

  the pleasure was all mine or just simply [TS]

  my pleasure and if I really believe it [TS]

  and I've honestly feel this way and i [TS]

  thought was a great opportunity say it [TS]

  was an honor to do exactly and those are [TS]

  things that what that does is it honors [TS]

  the person's gratitude and and it honors [TS]

  it by accepting that you have done [TS]

  something for them instead of saying no [TS]

  no no [TS]

  hi i am on I am unworthy of your [TS]

  gratitude I mean that is I think that's [TS]

  but that's but this is a book ended [TS]

  nation you think both coasts are [TS]

  contributing this do you think this is [TS]

  part of our evolving leftist culture he [TS]

  said wishing he had already wishing he [TS]

  hadn't said it [TS]

  yes okay yes i do and i think the piano [TS]

  at the center of america i think those [TS]

  corn-fed truck driving centre Americans [TS]

  if you say thank you to them they go [TS]

  you're welcome my pleasure [TS]

  how do you think anything else I can do [TS]

  to help I like that I you know what I [TS]

  gotta tell you I like civility with [TS]

  strangers i don't like over from uranus [TS]

  I'm on record for this pile of civility [TS]

  among strangers and I know it's but [TS]

  although it's so nice it's the oil that [TS]

  keeps it all running because here now to [TS]

  your point I'm gonna take a slightly [TS]

  different point of view on this but but [TS]

  here's the problem is that i think the [TS]

  same fucking reason that people don't [TS]

  use turn signals these people should not [TS]

  be allowed to drive if they don't use [TS]

  turn signals turn signals do not make [TS]

  you weak [TS]

  well maybe in your case because you're [TS]

  clearly doing some secret work that we [TS]

  probably can't get into but you don't [TS]

  want to turn your turn to sing along if [TS]

  you feel like you're being followed no [TS]

  no but you know it's a distraction or [TS]

  depression energy never turn it on [TS]

  that's it that's a rookie mistake [TS]

  sometimes you can turn it the wrong way [TS]

  be in the wrong lane and no way to get [TS]

  over i got into this situation the other [TS]

  day I was coming to to I came to an [TS]

  intersection where no one ever uses [TS]

  their turn signal because it's one of [TS]

  those uh it's an intersection where the [TS]

  the arterial route makes a free left [TS]

  right nobody goes straight there because [TS]

  it's a dead end so it's an arterial but [TS]

  the but it's a turn a left hand turn and [TS]

  I'm coming to this intersection i'm at [TS]

  this intersection every day no one ever [TS]

  uses their terms so I arrived here and [TS]

  there is a taxi coming at a right angle [TS]

  to me and I just assumed he was gonna [TS]

  make the left and pulled out in front of [TS]

  him and he said it was a taxi that was [TS]

  the didn't know the neighborhood that [TS]

  was looking for an address down that [TS]

  dead-end Road and he he was from a [TS]

  retrail and he made some eritrea and [TS]

  gesture with his hands and his forehead [TS]

  and his hair just like what is wrong [TS]

  with your brain and he like he put he [TS]

  put his both hands in his hair and [TS]

  pulled his [TS]

  they're straight up in the air like your [TS]

  brain is is like in your hair [TS]

  I think was what I think that was mayor [TS]

  sorghum be consumed by rats and I was so [TS]

  like amazed by the gesture like my brain [TS]

  is in my hair but that that that it took [TS]

  me a second before I realized like oh I [TS]

  completely created a traffic accident [TS]

  there by assuming that that nobody's [TS]

  ever going to use their turn signal here [TS]

  and and and i was in the wrong and I [TS]

  have to put my foot on the brake and I i [TS]

  did a little bow to him and I was like I [TS]

  beg your forgiveness [TS]

  well god bless you John nice frame is in [TS]

  my hair [TS]

  they didn't you pick up that gesture [TS]

  well what was amazing was it required [TS]

  that he put his foot on the brake and [TS]

  take both hands off the steering wheel [TS]

  and like and give himself like a fright [TS]

  like a like an eraser head consistent [TS]

  some trying to do in my own two hands d [TS]

  just put your is it like a like a [TS]

  frustrated make eraserhead hair with [TS]

  like you're frustrated [TS]

  it happened so fast like his hands went [TS]

  up to his forehead like like OMG and [TS]

  then zip right up through his hair so [TS]

  his hair standing straight up and then [TS]

  if he he ended like his dismount was at [TS]

  his hands on both sides of his head were [TS]

  up in like up in the air like what is [TS]

  wrong with you it's always an LMG to a [TS]

  WTF OMG too WTF within the middle and [TS]

  eraser like an eraser head like fro pic [TS]

  that's a fucking great move it was a [TS]

  great move and it was not it was not an [TS]

  American move it was an African move and [TS]

  it was like you sir me because he's [TS]

  probably come to an intersection before [TS]

  where the where there was a convoy of [TS]

  Toyota trucks with the 50 caliber [TS]

  machine guns and mounted in the back and [TS]

  he probably made that same gesture and [TS]

  they were like we spare you [TS]

  you live you live today yes so it worked [TS]

  again for him [TS]

  I just think not being civil to [TS]

  strangers does not make you powerful and [TS]

  I is unsightly to have to say that but i [TS]

  think a lot of people think that if [TS]

  you're a gift to the waitress that gives [TS]

  us a little bit of power adjustable [TS]

  whether good or bad service i'm just [TS]

  being addicted just to be a dick [TS]

  this is the problem of Bellingham being [TS]

  maryland which is that people think that [TS]

  when you [TS]

  say thank you and they go thank you or [TS]

  they say know that they're actually [TS]

  being civil when in fact they're being [TS]

  cummins that's that's good [TS]

  well and know and and it really is true [TS]

  it goes for lots of things now the other [TS]

  one and this is really probably going [TS]

  too far now the compliments when [TS]

  sometimes someone will pay me a [TS]

  compliment and because of my my horrible [TS]

  combination of arrogance and zero [TS]

  self-esteem it i will start not [TS]

  precisely rejecting it but I end up [TS]

  fishing for more compliments because now [TS]

  i'm describing why I'm unworthy of that [TS]

  and that's something I'm trying really [TS]

  hard to stop telling you i'm trying to [TS]

  say i think i might have learned this [TS]

  from violence on what they call it like [TS]

  you say thank you very much thank you [TS]

  yeah and they say no problem I fucking [TS]

  hit him in the balls [TS]

  well in those situations this is what I [TS]

  learned from my brother Bart in those [TS]

  situations where someone is [TS]

  complimenting you for something for a [TS]

  performance that you just did or [TS]

  something that you that your instinct is [TS]

  to say you know what actually like [TS]

  people come up to me up right after a [TS]

  show there like that was amazing and [TS]

  four years my response to that was [TS]

  actually it was a shit storm and the [TS]

  fact that you liked it means that you [TS]

  don't have any taste because my feeling [TS]

  when I walk off of stages is generally [TS]

  like I'm running down all the ways that [TS]

  i fuck Rihanna does that I don't think [TS]

  she does [TS]

  yeah I and and I would you know I would [TS]

  come off the stage and people would [TS]

  crowd around me like that was into that [TS]

  was the greatest show ever and I'd be [TS]

  like actually it was in the bottom two [TS]

  percent of all shows ever performed by [TS]

  human being and what would happen is [TS]

  these people would be like crestfallen [TS]

  because not only did I not accept their [TS]

  compliments but i but i abused them it'd [TS]

  be easier than the matrix he said think [TS]

  they realize you know what that actually [TS]

  wasn't that good [TS]

  yeah and then an hour later after i [TS]

  processed after I've been through my my [TS]

  my old process I realized like on that [TS]

  show is pretty good why did I just [TS]

  abused all those people and my brother [TS]

  Bart was standing around after show this [TS]

  years ago I haven't done this same sense [TS]

  my twenties be standing around after [TS]

  showing he heard me do that like say to [TS]

  somebody like uh no actually that was a [TS]

  doesn't it was basically a puddle of [TS]

  vomit but [TS]

  I'm glad you came paid your ticket I [TS]

  stressful weekend Bart walked up to me [TS]

  and he said John don't take the pleasure [TS]

  of the show away from people [TS]

  if you can't accept their call [TS]

  compliment just say I'm glad you enjoyed [TS]

  it and I was like I'm glad you enjoyed [TS]

  it [TS]

  I'm glad you enjoyed it and I walked [TS]

  around for a week or two practicing that [TS]

  I'm glad you enjoyed it and that that [TS]

  accepts them a little bit big city but [TS]

  you know what i mean it is a way of [TS]

  getting if if you cannot in that moment [TS]

  accept the compliment you can Li see [TS]

  that's your fallback you can at least [TS]

  say okay I'm glad you enjoyed it [TS]

  stressing again with just a tiny bit [TS]

  more stress on you i'm glad you [TS]

  yeah I'm glad you enjoyed it and now [TS]

  it's a different sentence it really is [TS]

  but I mean if you can just if you could [TS]

  just like put your make your face into a [TS]

  mask and say I'm glad you enjoyed it [TS]

  it's it gets you through that first hour [TS]

  after a show where I want you to die [TS]

  because you came to my show I want my [TS]

  audience to die I want them to choke on [TS]

  their enjoyment of my shit I can't [TS]

  believe you people have I can't believe [TS]

  you people saw that whole thing and [TS]

  didn't leave [TS]

  exactly i might be on on a slow prius [TS]

  right to bellingham him with this one [TS]

  but I i think where it's possible and [TS]

  this is a little bit of civility and [TS]

  this may be getting a little little too [TS]

  far but I i think if it's at all [TS]

  possible to pay repay kindness with [TS]

  another kindness then that's not bad so [TS]

  in that situation I think another one [TS]

  might be [TS]

  hey thanks and thanks for coming to the [TS]

  show yeah but that's not my style know [TS]

  that feels a little bit like that feels [TS]

  a little bit like a pet like a pat on [TS]

  the ass [TS]

  hey thanks i think i think it goes [TS]

  beyond the improv thing I thinking when [TS]

  we're in conversations with people i [TS]

  think we should always try and do more [TS]

  than fifty percent not of the talking [TS]

  necessarily but of the of the propelling [TS]

  the conversation and you have used to [TS]

  okay yeah i mean it's like any kind of [TS]

  communication and kind of a job any kind [TS]

  of thing you do if you want it to be [TS]

  good you should be [TS]

  however many and people are involved you [TS]

  should be dedicated to doing much more [TS]

  than one end of the work whether using [TS]

  on a party or whatever [TS]

  although when somebody once I've seen [TS]

  this happen with you when somebody says [TS]

  something that sticks in your craw you [TS]

  roll up the drawbridge what like what [TS]

  you would mean you don't get micro [TS]

  doesn't get stuck very often but [TS]

  sometimes somebody will say something [TS]

  where you're like oh really and then [TS]

  then you go into that mode of like 100 [TS]

  percent of the conversation is on you [TS]

  now [TS]

  oh oh no John this is this is my watch [TS]

  you and watch you squirm on the end of [TS]

  the balloon maybe Batman but i am very [TS]

  good thing Robin I can do my own versus [TS]

  somebody needs to be corrected [TS]

  I just want to get clear to our [TS]

  listeners John helps it way more people [TS]

  than me but i have i have helped the [TS]

  fuck out of a lot of people who needed [TS]

  it i believe it often by showing them a [TS]

  slightly lower pay that they might be [TS]

  more comfortable with often often by [TS]

  stripping away the niceties our frat [TS]

  party [TS]

  I think you have you met almost now I [TS]

  understand you have to understand that i [TS]

  like i like civility I like people being [TS]

  nice to each other and I can even put up [TS]

  with a certain amount of bullshit [TS]

  yes I know you can but but i will not be [TS]

  trifled with [TS]

  and I will be honest when it comes to [TS]

  certain matters i will not be trifled [TS]

  with this usually happens when somebody [TS]

  thinks I've seen this happen a young man [TS]

  you talked about in the hotel lobby [TS]

  how ya young man who feels that he is [TS]

  very less favorable is at your level and [TS]

  he he hears you [TS]

  you know here's you suggesting he wants [TS]

  to be a part of it and he thinks the way [TS]

  in is to insult you immediately as a [TS]

  kind of like I'm here I'm here to get [TS]

  you to freebies I can play the two [TS]

  freebies no problem right [TS]

  and the third one the third one the [TS]

  third you only get two gloves buddy when [TS]

  those are gone [TS]

  you better put up those skinny little [TS]

  Ivy league-educated 15 years [TS]

  yeah no no it's a you know what it is [TS]

  though it really is something where I [TS]

  feel like I've learned a lot from you [TS]

  I've learned that some things not only [TS]

  should not but must not be suffered I [TS]

  mean I do know what you mean exactly and [TS]

  and i think this is this is the problem [TS]

  with the societies of ours is that that [TS]

  it's ok it's ok to do certain kinds of [TS]

  passive-aggressive things [TS]

  and then like I'm supposed to sit there [TS]

  and go oh that's that's normal when [TS]

  clearly you're trying to Telegraph [TS]

  something completely different that in [TS]

  like this in the secret language of [TS]

  yours that I'm suppose your mirror [TS]

  whoever is supposed to go on oh yeah [TS]

  that's that's cool man you know and that [TS]

  will not stand it should not stand this [TS]

  is what we owe this kind of say we owe [TS]

  this young people young people are such [TS]

  a fucking mess today John I really are [TS]

  and I mean that you know my sense is [TS]

  that they would be less of a mess of [TS]

  people would help them the thing about [TS]

  you and and I Berlin no problem up [TS]

  it's all good it is a trait that was [TS]

  thinking about you and I let that not be [TS]

  the mean for the show [TS]

  stop it now that's never gonna happen [TS]

  it's never gave me a shirt i don't know [TS]

  you're bigger and they're making fans [TS]

  are right now those and some rubber [TS]

  gloves that's a minute up and my clothes [TS]

  and say here's your future because [TS]

  you're not saying your scone [TS]

  thank you date rape is that we are [TS]

  willing in a hotel lobby or or somewhere [TS]

  else in public in a casual encounter [TS]

  let's say in a casual encounter with a [TS]

  he was even with a stranger [TS]

  we are willing to talk about to talk [TS]

  about what's behind the curtain we are [TS]

  willing to talk about real things in in [TS]

  short-term encounters write a lot of [TS]

  people keep their short-term encounters [TS]

  so greased with you know with seven [TS]

  layers of hot butter just because they [TS]

  want to get out of there a lot of its [TS]

  status butter if there's a lot of status [TS]

  butter they just want to they want to [TS]

  stay want to they want to get out of [TS]

  there with their with like their [TS]

  feelings their dignity intact or what [TS]

  little dignity they have intact who and [TS]

  they're not ever willing to certainly [TS]

  not willing to engage a stranger in a [TS]

  discussion about what what's behind the [TS]

  curtain and so that's where you get all [TS]

  this that's why there's just tracks of [TS]

  hot butter everywhere we go in the city [TS]

  because people are just slathered with [TS]

  like what they consider to be social [TS]

  lubricant who and what it means is that [TS]

  no one is saying anything and they're [TS]

  just trying to get home so they can [TS]

  masturbate in front of the TV [TS]

  god bless you that but that's misplaced [TS]

  butter [TS]

  it's a that it's a lot of wasted butter [TS]

  and you and I will have and I've seen it [TS]

  I've seen you do it a million times and [TS]

  I do it also every day we will stop we [TS]

  will stop what we're doing in the middle [TS]

  of a casual encounter and we will say [TS]

  something about what is hat what is [TS]

  really happening in that moment and if [TS]

  you smell the smell BS bestest burning [TS]

  as these people try and change gears at [TS]

  and you see the looks of this the the [TS]

  looks of like electroshock on their face [TS]

  because they just slid their own status [TS]

  butter because they're butter is there [TS]

  butter is useless in this instance you [TS]

  know they're here they're literally [TS]

  hitting them with their own butter pear [TS]

  butter has a counter to a spinning saw [TS]

  blade and it and you and I aren't trying [TS]

  to do anything except say what's [TS]

  happening like okay you're here I'm here [TS]

  here's what's happening [TS]

  well yeah well yeah but there's like two [TS]

  important parts to that apart from the [TS]

  societal assistance which is that you [TS]

  know your yes there is something else [TS]

  going on here and you're not winning at [TS]

  this and now we're still friend you are [TS]

  about to clearly in front of lots of [TS]

  people lose it this because you can't [TS]

  you do that kid I used to do exactly [TS]

  what you're trying to do right now I [TS]

  used to be better at it but now i'm [TS]

  really good at showing people what [TS]

  they're doing [TS]

  never never see I think I've mentioned [TS]

  this before but well I think one of my [TS]

  all-time favorite movie scenes is in the [TS]

  Jose Ferrer version of cyrano de [TS]

  bergerac is right with the movie at all [TS]

  i'm i'm familiar with the book [TS]

  ok well there's a wonderful scene in the [TS]

  Jose for it's just fantastic in this [TS]

  movie is a great scene at that I think [TS]

  towards the very very beginning [TS]

  yeah this is where this is where Steve [TS]

  Martin meet Holly Hunter its inmates in [TS]

  that movie to ask you to Martin is [TS]

  flying like a like he's a he's a he's a [TS]

  pilot that it puts out forest fires and [TS]

  he crashes me sleepless in seattle and [TS]

  then he's like he's a ghost but but then [TS]

  he has that 156 paces there any put a [TS]

  volleyball face on it put it on I didn't [TS]

  really watch a lot of movies in the [TS]

  eighties but go ahead about your [TS]

  services from I think the early fifties [TS]

  it's black and white and I think for a [TS]

  forward bend [TS]

  French French right but you know so [TS]

  basically oh well no it's it's you know [TS]

  it's a Hollywood movie but it is [TS]

  anyhow the party movies starring someone [TS]

  named Jose Jose for rare you know c84 [TS]

  rare it does he like riding a donkey and [TS]

  wearing a sombrero [TS]

  I think it's kind of a man of la mancha [TS]

  de la Mancha you have actually been to [TS]

  la mancha there's really not much going [TS]

  on there anyway last year's investigator [TS]

  trust okay I'm listening [TS]

  it's like the third time this happens [TS]

  I'm literally so angry no serious in [TS]

  theater he's very displeased with the [TS]

  performances basically stops the [TS]

  performance and makes fun of this guy [TS]

  and he's it's very funny and so this one [TS]

  is of course dear sarah has a rather [TS]

  prominent nose he's a smart guy cirno is [TS]

  very smart and he's the best sword [TS]

  swordsman in France and across from [TS]

  across the room this dandy says that [TS]

  oh he this this man here you know he's [TS]

  very arrogant he doesn't have any [TS]

  ribbons and better it up and so he walks [TS]

  with this guy walks over to see her no [TS]

  and he says your nose is rather large [TS]

  and she turns to me and goes my nose is [TS]

  rather large and a long story short as [TS]

  hero says basically says well enlighten [TS]

  leicestershire i'm about to kick your [TS]

  ass want to copy i'm gonna close up a [TS]

  lot while I kick your ass about all the [TS]

  ways you could have insulted me better [TS]

  and these right moment give you a moment [TS]

  to get my rhymes and then he he kicks [TS]

  the guy's ass and chosen although all [TS]

  the different ways you could have done [TS]

  it better and i rarely think about the [TS]

  scene from that movie until the asbestos [TS]

  starts burning in the butter starts [TS]

  melting [TS]

  yeah and anyway I you know I think we [TS]

  all know that was a great recap of that [TS]

  scene who are alive if I made fanart [TS]

  yeah i would make some fanart about that [TS]

  story remember when steve martin would [TS]

  have the arrow through his head but it [TS]

  was funny man [TS]

  yes that is the deal small details okay [TS]

  are you always finding great articles on [TS]

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  have the time [TS]

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  and don't have an internet connection [TS]

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  instapaper com or search for instapaper [TS]

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  hey wait a minute we should always [TS]

  should have been talking about Hitler [TS]

  this whole time I didn't want to say [TS]

  anything but this isn't a little later [TS]

  yeah I see the thing I don't go into [TS]

  inside baseball here but I couldn't [TS]

  decide me how you know what this could [TS]

  be a work session for us maybe this is a [TS]

  chance to just toss some ideas around [TS]

  okay all right now I do you think they [TS]

  should really be its own separate [TS]

  property with this be a regular featured [TS]

  for listeners who who haven't been with [TS]

  this place to go back and listen to the [TS]

  previous 30-something episodes [TS]

  yeah what are you doing while you're [TS]

  listening to this episode to start at [TS]

  the beginning so coming in at the end of [TS]

  a movie [TS]

  you can't possibly understand what we're [TS]

  talking about yeah unless you go back to [TS]

  the original episode where you didn't [TS]

  understand what you're talking about and [TS]

  listen to 39 episodes where it's not [TS]

  really clear what we're talking about [TS]

  absolutely the shame of it is you come [TS]

  in here a little bit talking about [TS]

  Hitler and the punch line that goes date [TS]

  rape and that's gonna sound really [TS]

  insensitive Uncle Remus jokes [TS]

  oh my god that sounds so racist until [TS]

  you go back well I made it I made a joke [TS]

  about racism the other day here [TS]

  yesterday and and the people that were [TS]

  on the other where the butt of the joke [TS]

  didn't appreciate being called racists [TS]

  in jest [TS]

  oh really yeah and I was like hey Reb [TS]

  calling you racists is funny and they [TS]

  were like I don't we don't see how [TS]

  that's funny I was like oh well you're [TS]

  not very involved it's typical for your [TS]

  type [TS]

  it really is for your type of people [TS]

  that's right yes well I was not a very [TS]

  clean [TS]

  um I feel like we'll see my instinct is [TS]

  that we should have a completely [TS]

  separate podcast that we do once a week [TS]

  we're always talking about Hitler but [TS]

  you're feeling like you're feeling like [TS]

  if we if we have a whole separate [TS]

  podcast but that's gonna that's gonna [TS]

  split our listenership and all the [TS]

  people who just want to hear about [TS]

  Hitler are going to listen to that and [TS]

  they're gonna stop listening to our main [TS]

  podcast where we help people possibly [TS]

  that is that is certainly one angle it [TS]

  so what we in business development of [TS]

  cannibalization and and and and I feel [TS]

  like I want to grow the property more [TS]

  great property thank you know I i think [TS]

  it's i think it could be perfectly good [TS]

  i gotta tell you just [TS]

  just went through my head theme music [TS]

  with tubas oh that's nice for you know [TS]

  you know we could do a what [TS]

  normally when you call and you say our i [TS]

  say hello and you say hi John and then I [TS]

  go hi Marla no don't say please don't [TS]

  say please [TS]

  what if i said no secret I'll not West [TS]

  Sieg what does that mean big Sputnik the [TS]

  different therapies blood missile f-111 [TS]

  what is see that's a good question Sieg [TS]

  means the keyboard [TS]

  everything's well it's a river to river [TS]

  it ran north rhine-westphalia let's see [TS]

  see how okay i think i misspelled it [TS]

  translate from siu g OC I did the [TS]

  classic andrew has eif4e except when [TS]

  you're invading Poland the victorious [TS]

  healing that doesn't sound right [TS]

  sync I'll you know I bet you know they [TS]

  got those laws they got a lot of laws in [TS]

  Germany about about talking to Stacy [TS]

  kyle is all kinds of stuff you can't do [TS]

  well now i know i know at the far end of [TS]

  the continuum not allowed to like we're [TS]

  swastikas I don't think you'll have to [TS]

  sell swastika is you're probably not [TS]

  allowed to collect swastika you're not [TS]

  you're not allowed to have a website [TS]

  that talks about collecting swastikas [TS]

  food i think that feels a little bit [TS]

  like a red herring [TS]

  well it is it's the it's the old thing [TS]

  amiss that we have this happens in [TS]

  America all the time which is the [TS]

  assumption that racists and bigots are [TS]

  as hung up on language and words as [TS]

  liberal intellectuals who so liberal [TS]

  intellectuals think that if they can [TS]

  erase the word they will erase the [TS]

  bigotry but bigots and racists really [TS]

  aren't they don't care about words so [TS]

  much bigots and racists if you if you [TS]

  say you can no longer say the word [TS]

  nigger who gets will they will happily [TS]

  say the word urban instead it will raise [TS]

  their eyebrows and smirk and they'll say [TS]

  it's an urban problem might not have [TS]

  don't imagine for a minute that they're [TS]

  not mentally transliterating that was it [TS]

  forward oh absolutely and they they know [TS]

  that all their friends know exactly what [TS]

  they're saying but they have people [TS]

  identified it so that it's now shows [TS]

  socially acceptable and they can say the [TS]

  exact same racist crap crap crap you [TS]

  know clapper clap clap they can say the [TS]

  exact same stuff on television and it's [TS]

  and it's acceptable now it's it is just [TS]

  as racist at its core but they've [TS]

  changed the word and you know and the [TS]

  Liberals pat themselves on the back and [TS]

  say well we're making a real difference [TS]

  here and it's and you know and there is [TS]

  nothing more there's nothing more [TS]

  liberal than modern Germany there really [TS]

  isn't especially in terms of like what [TS]

  you get like vacation time and there's [TS]

  all kinds of ways [TS]

  i'm sorry mr. clean politics but also in [TS]

  pop policy about things like economics [TS]

  right i mean in time I mean mentally [TS]

  intellectually germany is a modern [TS]

  liberal democracy and they do all this [TS]

  type of they do all this type of over [TS]

  thinking of stuff but nationalism has [TS]

  not gone away ingredients in it like [TS]

  exploding in Greece right now it's [TS]

  exploding all over Europe because [TS]

  nationalism is what happens when people [TS]

  feel like when when when stupid people [TS]

  don't understand what's happening [TS]

  anymore if nationalism is what is the [TS]

  result of it when people that don't read [TS]

  books feel like people that are reading [TS]

  books are are stepping on their their [TS]

  necks you get nationalism also with [TS]

  farmers well yeah and immigrants now [TS]

  you've been you've been to Germany more [TS]

  than once right [TS]

  I've been to Germany 100 million times [TS]

  um I'm curious about how that works in [TS]

  practice because I had a I had a rebound [TS]

  girl friend who was German she's very [TS]

  young she's brilliant Germans she's 20 [TS]

  and six feet tall [TS]

  yeah they feel very strongly about [TS]

  things in the Germans to well I e [TS]

  sitting there bars and they will spilled [TS]

  beer on you and tell you all the reasons [TS]

  in America is stupid [TS]

  well here's the thing now she was from [TS]

  very far as she was from a place called [TS]

  pass out which was looking right at it [TS]

  was like it was like in stripes i think [TS]

  when they were all the tanks when [TS]

  everybody was right the tank i think the [TS]

  hobby [TS]

  nice i mean it was basically [TS]

  Czechoslovakia more than mr. but she was [TS]

  too young to remember before the war [TS]

  well here's the thing I remember I mean [TS]

  before the wall [TS]

  I know now I mean that should keep them [TS]

  alive for that this is like a you know [TS]

  over a decade ago [TS]

  OIC this is back in the day you know I [TS]

  didn't have been waiting for 15 years [TS]

  but I'm starting out about the arm but [TS]

  the thing about the thing about this was [TS]

  though is it [TS]

  I don't think I went super crazy with [TS]

  the other stuff but but when you're when [TS]

  you're a provocative man in his thirties [TS]

  with the 20-year old german girl its get [TS]

  was going to come up of course and she [TS]

  cry oh she would cry so two things about [TS]

  her she refused to tip for anything [TS]

  because she was German right when she [TS]

  was super duper sensitive about even [TS]

  getting anywhere near world war two in [TS]

  general you know what I mean it's like [TS]

  it really is like that Fawlty Towers [TS]

  thing you know what don't mention the [TS]

  war it was it was absolutely like that [TS]

  and she would she would burst into tears [TS]

  and and talk about like you know people [TS]

  understanding like what a sensitive [TS]

  issue that was on that's obviously and [TS]

  rehearsing specifically I wasn't there [TS]

  it's not my fault which I get right but [TS]

  you know still it's very embarrassing [TS]

  but you know is it like that I guess [TS]

  what I'm asking you is it was at your [TS]

  impression when you were there you don't [TS]

  you just walk around and ask questions [TS]

  like like you know what your crap on the [TS]

  SS or something like that [TS]

  sure you do I you you or lots of people [TS]

  I i don't know if it's part of like [TS]

  other people's tourist experience i'm [TS]

  not sure if it's one of those tour buses [TS]

  pulls up into the square and in the [TS]

  guide sent to the front of the bus and [TS]

  says okay everybody we're here and now [TS]

  we're here and pass out now as you walk [TS]

  around make sure you ask if anybody's [TS]

  uncle was in the SS this struggle is a [TS]

  great is it true that the gauges had to [TS]

  wear shoe triangles my dick and yellow [TS]

  and black ones were troublemakers is [TS]

  that right i love talking about world [TS]

  war two and the advantages to know what [TS]

  I said you know about all this you can [TS]

  get a bar if you're a troublemaker you [TS]

  know that course of course I knew that [TS]

  this team talking to modern Germans [TS]

  about world war two and Hitler is a [TS]

  fascinating exercise because everybody [TS]

  there has a different feeling about it [TS]

  and everybody has a different family [TS]

  history [TS]

  you know it's it is a nation that at [TS]

  least for the last 50 years has been [TS]

  processing that experience every day [TS]

  every person in that country is [TS]

  processing that experience every day [TS]

  even the ones who are like it's not my [TS]

  fault i don't want to think about it [TS]

  they are processing it every day and [TS]

  each interaction that happens in germany [TS]

  between two Germans it's it's there in [TS]

  the room with them are you kidding [TS]

  not at all so it's a city like anything [TS]

  at least once a day it goes to [TS]

  somebody's mine [TS]

  absolutely so that's a lot you walk [TS]

  around with when you bring it up with [TS]

  people there you are acknowledging the [TS]

  800-pound gorilla in the room and a lot [TS]

  of people are relieved because it [TS]

  relieves the pressure to be able to talk [TS]

  about it and you know of course everyone [TS]

  has a different experience of women and [TS]

  there are young people who feel like [TS]

  they're that that everyone in Germany is [TS]

  complicit in it and there are a lot of [TS]

  people the prevailing wisdom is that you [TS]

  know we have a toned and it's a it's [TS]

  very complicated you know that after the [TS]

  war I mean I walked across Germany right [TS]

  i spent on the course I spent two months [TS]

  walking through fields and going under [TS]

  little stone bridges and back in there [TS]

  for the in there deep forests and [TS]

  everywhere I was I was looking for that [TS]

  that one swastika that someone had not [TS]

  shipped off of a bridge abutment because [TS]

  when the Nazis were building things they [TS]

  built a lot of things and they put [TS]

  swastika is all over everything and [TS]

  after the war they have gone through [TS]

  every inch of that country and chipped [TS]

  every little spastic off of every little [TS]

  concrete culvert so that their isn't [TS]

  they have erased it completely there is [TS]

  no you will not find [TS]

  [Music] [TS]

  a little swastika in the corner [TS]

  somewhere in there any Mason's that had [TS]

  to undo their own work interesting or [TS]

  like seventh level mages somebody but I [TS]

  wonder I mean it you're right it was it [TS]

  was like FDR to the hundred level there [TS]

  was a lot of work to be done in a lot of [TS]

  lot of bridges and a lot of what is [TS]

  precisions the recent understand this [TS]

  and who put those on probably had to [TS]

  take it off [TS]

  well I don't know a lot of people to put [TS]

  them on probably are dead or were dead [TS]

  after the war but how can there be ready [TS]

  lad ok they were literally low on dudes [TS]

  let's say at the end of that war flow-on [TS]

  blowin on marriageable men but every [TS]

  addict in every home in the country has [TS]

  a picture of great-great-grandfather in [TS]

  his vermox outfit at the very least and [TS]

  I did find one time [TS]

  stop me if I've told you the story [TS]

  before but I i was in a little i was up [TS]

  in the mountains in a little town called [TS]

  garment well it's not a little town it's [TS]

  actually pretty big town [TS]

  garmisch-partenkirchen this is this is [TS]

  not the the hunting tuba festival this [TS]

  is not the hunting two battalions it [TS]

  down in this is down in Bavaria ok I was [TS]

  up in the mountains and I was you know [TS]

  where hikers the Germans and [TS]

  particularly in the Alps I'm hiking [TS]

  around its it's in the it's in the Alps [TS]

  and I find a little chapel and it's not [TS]

  a it's not a chapel where where [TS]

  religious services are the Germans have [TS]

  all these little these little chapels in [TS]

  the forest because in fact they never [TS]

  fully abandoned paganism like determines [TS]

  have have adopted Christianity and it [TS]

  was one of the hotbeds of Christianity [TS]

  in the early years but really they're [TS]

  still a pagan people and they go out [TS]

  into the forest and they worship berries [TS]

  and they worship squirrels and they [TS]

  worship leaves and dirt they cover [TS]

  themselves with pear juice have sex and [TS]

  child's no idea how much it's it's [TS]

  so they have little chapels everywhere [TS]

  you go you're walking out in the forest [TS]

  and you're like I've no one has ever [TS]

  been here I'm deep in the forest again [TS]

  that drew it kind of thing [TS]

  yes there will be little and their their [TS]

  christian right there's a jesus in them [TS]

  there's a there's across and there's [TS]

  Jesus but the jesus is draped in pine [TS]

  boughs that someone has recently cut [TS]

  some forest hunter has come and draped [TS]

  the Jesus with pine boughs and made [TS]

  flower garlands that are that they drape [TS]

  around the Jesus in a very very pagan [TS]

  kind of naturalistic offering to the to [TS]

  the forest Christ it's a it's a very [TS]

  strange thing out there in the woods of [TS]

  Germany let me tell you but I found one [TS]

  of these forests chapels up on the side [TS]

  of the mountain and on the back wall of [TS]

  it there were pictures of all of the all [TS]

  of the men from the neighboring town [TS]

  that had been killed in the war and they [TS]

  were all in there in their uniforms and [TS]

  they were to stop Oh guys up there and [TS]

  there were SS guys up there and there [TS]

  were just a lot of work vermox normal [TS]

  guys but they all these pictures on the [TS]

  back of this Chapel that you wouldn't [TS]

  have been able to see it unless you went [TS]

  around and you know kind of like push [TS]

  your way through the woods whatever here [TS]

  was this shrine to the men of the town [TS]

  and they all have their flowers draped [TS]

  all over these photographs and they were [TS]

  there was obviously tended by people [TS]

  from the village that was the only [TS]

  instance that I ever saw of like a [TS]

  public acknowledgement and it by public [TS]

  I mean perch on the side of a cliff [TS]

  somewhere but still outside of someone's [TS]

  home [TS]

  let's get this kind of this temple or or [TS]

  or mausoleum to these guys these Nazi [TS]

  guys [TS]

  and instead look for saying for some [TS]

  reason I'm thinking about the [TS]

  slaughterhouse five and you know Billy [TS]

  Billy uh Billy Pilgrim is getting you [TS]

  know picked up at the end of the war and [TS]

  one of that one of the guys I guess it's [TS]

  like what 44 [TS]

  yeah I guess 4445 anyway out one of the [TS]

  guys whatever it takes one of the guys [TS]

  is a very old man in the mopping up [TS]

  party and the other one is like a flick [TS]

  of fourteen fifteen-year-old kid or [TS]

  something [TS]

  I mean it got that bad right after after [TS]

  44 8 10 12 pages of like 16 and fifty no [TS]

  one left [TS]

  that's astounding and so you know I said [TS]

  I mean like the way this is where we [TS]

  really need a separate so for this but I [TS]

  mean you know per capita their their [TS]

  losses where we r greater than ours in [TS]

  terms of losses in in combat you know [TS]

  one of the funny things about the story [TS]

  of world war two that that it's is it [TS]

  never gets told is that after the war of [TS]

  course there were Germans before the war [TS]

  there were Germans living all through [TS]

  what we think of as Poland Czech [TS]

  Republic Slovakia Hungary Romania there [TS]

  were massive German populations in all [TS]

  of Eastern Europe that were historical [TS]

  population that had some of them had [TS]

  been living some of those areas were [TS]

  historically German for 900 years I [TS]

  Germans had been living there as the [TS]

  resident population surrounded by Slavs [TS]

  but it was a German part of Poland read [TS]

  it wasn't called Poland then it was you [TS]

  know pressure or the Germans colonized [TS]

  all of Eastern Europe and after the war [TS]

  all those countries doesn't you know [TS]

  newly reconstituted countries they [TS]

  wanted the Germans out and it didn't [TS]

  matter if they if those German families [TS]

  have been living in that part of hungry [TS]

  for 900 years they wanted the Germans [TS]

  out and so there was a massive exodus [TS]

  forced exodus of Germans from all of [TS]

  Eastern Europe where they were marched [TS]

  back to Germany a place where they had [TS]

  never lived place you're talking you're [TS]

  not interrupt you but you eat we are not [TS]

  talking about the people who are quietly [TS]

  relieved [TS]

  that that Germany was going to make [TS]

  their place more dramatically you're [TS]

  talking about like a force like what a [TS]

  Stalinist I like relocation like we've [TS]

  got to go back we're being forcibly [TS]

  repatriated the southeasterly [TS]

  repatriated back to Germany a place [TS]

  where you have never lived an [TS]

  accelerating rate their parents never [TS]

  yeah you've been living in Hungary [TS]

  albeit speaking German but living in [TS]

  hungry for you know your family has been [TS]

  here since that is really ambitious seen [TS]

  hundred and you are out now you are gone [TS]

  and they marched what ended up being [TS]

  like a million people uh villagers [TS]

  basically like march them back to [TS]

  Germany and they all arrived in Germany [TS]

  which was completely bombed out [TS]

  resourceless smoking hole of like war [TS]

  rubble and then office and all these [TS]

  other people showed up who had never [TS]

  lived a day of their lives in germany [TS]

  and they're like well hi purple we're [TS]

  here to you got room got room at the [TS]

  bombed-out in for us and our and my six [TS]

  kids whatever it was a it was it's a [TS]

  thing that it's part of the world war [TS]

  two stories doesn't get old because all [TS]

  the people that got hurt in that war [TS]

  like the some little like burgermeister [TS]

  from Hungary that had to walk back to [TS]

  Germany is like it's pretty small [TS]

  potatoes considering what else was [TS]

  happening in 1946 and but in fact [TS]

  there's like a million people being [TS]

  forced marched back to a country that [TS]

  they've never that they never lived in [TS]

  its it's one of the like untold stories [TS]

  what do you know about down i think we [TS]

  might miss this for what you know about [TS]

  the but what they now call it you know [TS]

  the fillmore Western dish in japantown [TS]

  what do you know about the relocations [TS]

  in San Francisco [TS]

  yeah you know about that no I mean and [TS]

  this is something i should probably bone [TS]

  up on for the official Hitler and stuff [TS]

  but there used to be a you know a large [TS]

  Japanese population ocean in japantown [TS]

  and but but also you know moving into [TS]

  what has become to call you know the [TS]

  western addition which is really kind of [TS]

  the westernmost part as its name implies [TS]

  of San Francisco for a long time right [TS]

  and but the way I understand it is that [TS]

  at the time they started [TS]

  the what's called the interment like you [TS]

  know a lot of people get sent to like [TS]

  fucking Arizona you know they were sent [TS]

  to these really far away places on the [TS]

  middle of nowhere angel island out in [TS]

  the middle of San Francisco Bay is where [TS]

  like a whole bunch of japanese people [TS]

  had to go and live for several years [TS]

  they lived there where they were there [TS]

  as a part of a relocation where they [TS]

  eventually were sent airzone actually [TS]

  lived on angel island [TS]

  I believe that's the case I think [TS]

  there's am there's like a visitor center [TS]

  there's like a whole historic thing out [TS]

  there ya go google it [TS]

  um but yeah pretty bad news but the [TS]

  story goes that a lot of their homes [TS]

  were basically they were sent to angel [TS]

  island and in their homes were placed a [TS]

  lot of people who are going to work in [TS]

  the factories which has it happened [TS]

  where a lot of african-american people [TS]

  so they pushed out a hostage ethics [TS]

  people gave their homes over to the i'm [TS]

  sorry i'm using the term I don't like to [TS]

  eat in the black Negro people and and [TS]

  they worked in the the shipyards and all [TS]

  that and then after those jobs went away [TS]

  it kind of turned into a slum because [TS]

  those jobs weren't there anymore and it [TS]

  was like the Japanese people got to come [TS]

  back and claim their house again right [TS]

  it's just it's it's pretty amazing the [TS]

  kind of shit that goes on in a war and [TS]

  depending on who won and who gets to put [TS]

  up the plaques you notice that you never [TS]

  find out about to start entering the [TS]

  Civil War certainly during the Civil War [TS]

  that's absolutely just true as well [TS]

  well as my as my high school AP history [TS]

  teacher said some families are still [TS]

  fighting the Civil War [TS]

  yeah he was an idiot yeah the japantown [TS]

  in seattle was similarly decimated and [TS]

  then after the war they it had it also [TS]

  become kind of a shantytown and they [TS]

  tore it down to build one of the very [TS]

  first public housing projects in America [TS]

  on the site of Seattle's you know like [TS]

  historic hundred-year-old japantown and [TS]

  the Japanese of the of the Pacific [TS]

  Northwest did return to the city but [TS]

  they didn't want to live in japan town [TS]

  anymore and they moved out to the [TS]

  suburbs [TS]

  so anyway that became a public housing [TS]

  project called a Rainier Vista and then [TS]

  when they were building the freeway [TS]

  course they plowed the freeway right [TS]

  through there because that was nobody [TS]

  was gonna fight for that and so what [TS]

  used to be japantown is now basically [TS]

  just spits just a sinkhole where where [TS]

  the freeway runs hardy pretty sad story [TS]

  my dad you know my dad of course grew up [TS]

  in Seattle and she all of many of his [TS]

  friends in the thirties were Japanese [TS]

  and I I used one with my dad when we had [TS]

  a funeral for my dad here in Seattle it [TS]

  was in a up the up the lobby of a big [TS]

  hotel and I published a obituary for him [TS]

  in the newspaper because I knew that a [TS]

  lot of these guys were out there that [TS]

  there wasn't anywhere any other way to [TS]

  reach him but like but I put a big [TS]

  obituary in the paper and they the [TS]

  newspaper wrote an article about him and [TS]

  so were at his funeral service and all [TS]

  these little old dudes start walking in [TS]

  these little 88-year old Japanese guys [TS]

  that are and they're all about four foot [TS]

  eleven and I'm walking around I'm like [TS]

  Hello you know I'm John Roderick i'm [TS]

  david Roderick's kid and these guys are [TS]

  like oh god your dad was such a good [TS]

  basketball player that and my dad would [TS]

  tell the stories where he went to [TS]

  Broadway high school in Seattle which is [TS]

  since been turned into a community [TS]

  college but he said Broadway high school [TS]

  was undefeated in basketball because we [TS]

  had all the Japanese students and the [TS]

  Japanese were the absolute best [TS]

  basketball players in the city and my [TS]

  educating me most of my dad's closest [TS]

  friends were either Jews or Japanese [TS]

  this is before the war and so when when [TS]

  the Pearl Harbor was bombed [TS]

  dad used to tell the story he went down [TS]

  to japan town to visit a friend of his [TS]

  and he showed up at the house and they [TS]

  were being forced to sell all of their [TS]

  stuff have I told you this story know [TS]

  and my dad sits in the living room and [TS]

  his friends mom is standing in the [TS]

  doorway and a and a 0 a white guy cums [TS]

  you know in a fedora and walk through [TS]

  the house like he owns the place and he [TS]

  says I'll give you five dollars for the [TS]

  refrigerator and his friends mommys like [TS]

  it's a brand new refrigerator you know [TS]

  it cost sixty dollars or something that [TS]

  guys like well today is worth five bucks [TS]

  and they were like okay five bucks five [TS]

  and this guy gonna walk to their house [TS]

  and he buys all their stuff all their [TS]

  furniture and their new appliances and [TS]

  just as paying them like insulting money [TS]

  that is kind of insulting about it and [TS]

  my dad is 19 years old and sitting there [TS]

  in his basketball shoes just furious [TS]

  just wanted to punch this guy in the [TS]

  face but the his friends and their [TS]

  family was they were being like put on a [TS]

  train and sent out to central California [TS]

  where they were going to live in a camp [TS]

  for the rest of the war and my dad went [TS]

  down and enlisted in the Navy and was [TS]

  sent to fight the Japanese and hit [TS]

  throughout the whole war he's having [TS]

  this very common and something that's [TS]

  what I think specific to the Pacific [TS]

  coast this [TS]

  coast this [TS]

  you know these guys who grew up with [TS]

  Japanese in there the Nisei were there [TS]

  where tightest bros and they did not [TS]

  they did not have that same feeling that [TS]

  I think a lot of Americans have that the [TS]

  Japanese were dehumanized or we're like [TS]

  this alien Thorin people my dad was like [TS]

  my friends sister but these are my guys [TS]

  these guys are great basketball players [TS]

  I mean they're not tall guys but I [TS]

  really you know they take it to the net [TS]

  so the rest of his life it anyway [TS]

  sitting in his funeral and watching all [TS]

  these little guys come in and like stand [TS]

  around and especially given this it had [TS]

  you known about this basketball stuff [TS]

  before [TS]

  oh yeah he talked about his whole life [TS]

  you know that but you also never shot a [TS]

  zero out of the sky was 45 there in my [TS]

  dental stories but in fact like like [TS]

  like a lot of men in my family if you [TS]

  start to doubt that those stories are [TS]

  true then I'll a guy will walk in off [TS]

  the street and be like oh absolutely i [TS]

  watched your dad shoots zero down with a [TS]

  45 like I i waited my whole life for [TS]

  that guy to come in and say like yeah [TS]

  sure I saw it happen because his stories [TS]

  were constantly confirmed by you know by [TS]

  independent sources by these weird [TS]

  situations where but I did not expect [TS]

  that many that many i didn't expect that [TS]

  many of these guys to still be alive but [TS]

  let alone that they would all come in [TS]

  and talk about talk about seattle before [TS]

  the war you know and that they all were [TS]

  the that either either they went into [TS]

  the army or they spent the war in camps [TS]

  and they came back to Seattle afterwards [TS]

  and started really you know started [TS]

  their businesses up again and [TS]

  it's something soon I'm sure that much [TS]

  of it is I mean I have done I I again [TS]

  I'm not consider and surf the internet [TS]

  for this but supposedly in a lot of the [TS]

  camp's they sit around like make fucking [TS]

  American flags [TS]

  yeah there-there there-there are [TS]

  patriotism was if you like unflagging [TS]

  it's just that's my blanket but like [TS]

  even the thing is you it's like this [TS]

  before but when you first see color [TS]

  photos of World War two [TS]

  it changes completely because it looks [TS]

  like pictures of vietnam in the sense [TS]

  that when you see a bunch of guys energy [TS]

  is in the jungle in color it looks so [TS]

  different and so much more [TS]

  that sounds silly but it seems so much [TS]

  more real your father having first-hand [TS]

  experience of of dealing with people [TS]

  with japanese ppl makes that such a [TS]

  complicated thing I think for a lot of [TS]

  people what we're too is this high [TS]

  contrast black and white war in every [TS]

  conceivable sense where I you know you [TS]

  see pictures of Hitler up there you're [TS]

  sending pictures of Hitler practicing [TS]

  you know you talk about practicing at to [TS]

  sign the his moves he would practice his [TS]

  moves and have people photograph and [TS]

  then pick out which of his like [TS]

  stentorian speaking moves be most [TS]

  effective that's what you see but go [TS]

  listen to something like this is there's [TS]

  these singers like the comedian harness [TS]

  which was this group of like mostly [TS]

  Jewish guys you know they were part of [TS]

  that whole crazy party scene in like [TS]

  Berlin you know you want something like [TS]

  forgetting you know cabaret it's it was [TS]

  raging and and it's so bizarre to see [TS]

  and I thought this was handled well in [TS]

  like what's at the adrienne watch [TS]

  malayalam movie the piano it's called [TS]

  The Pianist don't like appearance just [TS]

  that sense of impending downhill pneus [TS]

  that you know that like it started out [TS]

  it was a real slow burn at first it was [TS]

  merely insulting treatment but to know [TS]

  that these are people that there were so [TS]

  many people who are wealthy that had [TS]

  roots there you know that's me where it [TS]

  becomes a staggering is when you take [TS]

  the contrast of seeing like newsreel [TS]

  footage of people doing the Charleston [TS]

  or whatever and sitting around you know [TS]

  in expensive clothes and know that those [TS]

  people will be dead in like fuckin ten [TS]

  years [TS]

  what's incredible is that the the [TS]

  intellectual life of Europe [TS]

  for at least 400 years prior to the 20th [TS]

  century was so threaded through with [TS]

  Jewish intellectual culture you couldn't [TS]

  separate them that the up in the 1700 [TS]

  the Germans were already you know [TS]

  worried that the Jews were kind of [TS]

  getting above their station or whatever [TS]

  and there they were always trying to [TS]

  make the separation between like this is [TS]

  high german culture this is German [TS]

  thinking this is German art but the Jews [TS]

  and their intellectual culture work were [TS]

  already like like a plaid through all of [TS]

  like European culture and to think that [TS]

  to think that in the 20th century that [TS]

  they would still be this idea that you [TS]

  could you can eradicate what had what [TS]

  was ultimately like a culture that was [TS]

  your that was your culture you could not [TS]

  separate just as we could not separate [TS]

  Jewish culture from American culture now [TS]

  all of our culture is hats at ultimately [TS]

  when you trace it back to who wrote it [TS]

  it was probably a couple of Jewish guys [TS]

  in a room somewhere you know there is no [TS]

  American there is no 20th century pop [TS]

  culture without the Jews without Jewish [TS]

  culture he couldn't you can see the way [TS]

  to put it right you know what I mean [TS]

  there's no television there is no rock [TS]

  and roll sure a lot of cool movies we [TS]

  wouldn't have you know what I mean [TS]

  there's no there is no American [TS]

  literature there is no without and i'm [TS]

  not saying that they that the the Jews [TS]

  are responsible for it all but their [TS]

  influence their participation in the in [TS]

  the culture you could its inextricable [TS]

  and the idea that it's that that it [TS]

  ended and this was absolutely true in [TS]

  Germany even to a greater extent in the [TS]

  seventeen eighteen and nineteen hundreds [TS]

  are you know the thoroughly 20th century [TS]

  it was just as threaded in their culture [TS]

  as it is an hour's the the presence and [TS]

  the participation of the Jews and to [TS]

  think that there was ever away or just [TS]

  to even imagine that it was a separate [TS]

  thing [TS]

  well that's that that's the really [TS]

  bananas things I guess as [TS]

  selling an hour then i read about the [TS]

  different you know patches in the camps [TS]

  and at every stage this is it's it's [TS]

  fascinating and incredibly well [TS]

  organized how they did this it's really [TS]

  bizarre you know they had some for aroma [TS]

  they had some for people who and things [TS]

  like homosexuals the other pink triangle [TS]

  was really any kind of any anybody who [TS]

  had become been convicted of a sex crime [TS]

  in court with what was specifically just [TS]

  like trying to be [TS]

  yeah that happened to be mostly mostly [TS]

  gay people but i was also pedophiles [TS]

  anybody up it could be like man and dog [TS]

  lady horses but no but that's what [TS]

  that's what I'm trying moment and then [TS]

  and green ones they call him the green [TS]

  triangles was like the criminals and [TS]

  again but then truly and this is like [TS]

  happens from a design standpoint you had [TS]

  to get a special extra yellow one to [TS]

  form a star of david if you were Jewish [TS]

  as well [TS]

  look how dark is that but everything [TS]

  that you see absolutely Jews were [TS]

  singled out for special treatment but in [TS]

  the same way it would be bananas for us [TS]

  to say let's take out all the Jewish [TS]

  culture and then call an American well [TS]

  what was happening over there [TS]

  how do you come up with something that's [TS]

  purely German culture how do you take [TS]

  out the Dutch component of that how do [TS]

  you take out the French component of [TS]

  that how do you take out the you know I [TS]

  again what is that what's going to be [TS]

  left its that you have less than two [TS]

  busy at that point it's just it doesn't [TS]

  it's it's so bananas that you can get to [TS]

  a point where that seem like anything [TS]

  sensible interests is crazy now when you [TS]

  read it in the newspaper every single [TS]

  day there are people talking about [TS]

  American culture like it is a monolithic [TS]

  thing that they can identify the [TS]

  components of and and these other things [TS]

  like hispanics or any kind of [TS]

  immigration the or or us people out here [TS]

  on the west coast with their faggy ways [TS]

  and our rock music or whatever it is [TS]

  like there are tons and tons of people [TS]

  in America that think that there is an [TS]

  American culture that is being assaulted [TS]

  by all these these terrifying outside [TS]

  influences and it's like there is no [TS]

  such thing [TS]

  the terrifying outside influences are [TS]

  absolutely American culture staring you [TS]

  in the face [TS]

  that's it's a I mean the Germans the [TS]

  Germans were so traumatized by Napoleon [TS]

  that far back [TS]

  although the love that's the story [TS]

  starts all the way back the story starts [TS]

  with the the Germans fighting the Romans [TS]

  but but that the situation with Napoleon [TS]

  was that before Napoleon the Germans [TS]

  were all there was no central idea of [TS]

  what what the Germans were they were it [TS]

  was just it was kind of like this this [TS]

  idea that this village is full of [TS]

  Germans and this village is full of [TS]

  these other Germans and this village is [TS]

  full of these other Germans and they're [TS]

  really more much more concerned with [TS]

  bickering over the line between their [TS]

  little their little do cheese then they [TS]

  are with worry about anybody outside you [TS]

  know there that they were not centrally [TS]

  there was no central control that was [TS]

  pressure there was Austria but there [TS]

  were all these little you know has say [TS]

  castle principalities and so forth and [TS]

  Napoleon came through and just [TS]

  absolutely smeared them all the French [TS]

  marched in and they subjugated all of [TS]

  the Germans and it was really the first [TS]

  time the Germans had been United was [TS]

  under the boot of france i was so [TS]

  traumatic for them [TS]

  did you just invent that it was those [TS]

  first time they've been United was under [TS]

  the boot of France [TS]

  oh no I i think that well yes maybe [TS]

  sorry but that's really good [TS]

  maybe I coined it and so that was so [TS]

  traumatic that when they went when [TS]

  Napoleon was finally defeated it left [TS]

  this lasting impact on the Germans like [TS]

  we need to get our shit together we need [TS]

  to be the Germans we need to stop [TS]

  fighting or we need to stop bickering [TS]

  over you know the who owns the covered [TS]

  bridge over this over this river over [TS]

  the river Saul and we need to say we are [TS]

  the terms we need a strong central your [TS]

  head for a long time it was is it going [TS]

  to be Prussia is it going to be Austria [TS]

  but this mentality of like [TS]

  we are we are one people in my opinion [TS]

  is a is a real like after an aftershock [TS]

  of having Napoleon come through and say [TS]

  like yeah you are one people you're all [TS]

  my bootblacks you know like you you you [TS]

  are you are the farmers and the dope so [TS]

  that are going to be supplying the [TS]

  French army as we march into Russia [TS]

  that's who you are and they were like oh [TS]

  no no no we are the Germans we we are [TS]

  the hunters we are that you know that [TS]

  was the that was the beginning of that [TS]

  like unified consciousness so Versailles [TS]

  was just just merely another compounding [TS]

  giant kick in the balls that led to the [TS]

  family in the wheelbarrows full of marks [TS]

  and all that so it took it took [TS]

  something that was already stinging as [TS]

  something when I guess what 30 years [TS]

  older than our own civil war but [TS]

  something that was still very much [TS]

  around they're still there still bullets [TS]

  in somebody's couch up in the attic [TS]

  yeah hundred years later various I was [TS]

  another instance of the French [TS]

  humiliating the Germans for [TS]

  and-and-and-and the case of their side [TS]

  humiliating them for no good reason just [TS]

  humiliating like that war ended world [TS]

  war one ended in a draw and like had [TS]

  America not come into the to the war and [TS]

  even with America in the war it was a [TS]

  draw [TS]

  they fought themselves to a standstill [TS]

  there was there was never going to be a [TS]

  winner to world war one and the idea [TS]

  that America and Britain and France won [TS]

  world war one is pretty ludicrous [TS]

  basically I mean germany just kind of [TS]

  ran out of gas [TS]

  nobody ever there was no big victory [TS]

  they're all three countries Britain [TS]

  France and Germany they all lost more [TS]

  than a million men and and it was it was [TS]

  a standstill and by the end of that war [TS]

  it should have been like you know what [TS]

  ok let's just shake hands and say the [TS]

  war is done let's just stop doing this [TS]

  that's basically what happened the [TS]

  Americans came in there like over there [TS]

  over there and everybody went out fuck [TS]

  here they are ok we surrender I guess I [TS]

  mean when the Germans the Germans ended [TS]

  the war they honestly felt like okay you [TS]

  know what let's just let's just stop [TS]

  they had no idea that and you said [TS]

  Wilson in particular there were a lot of [TS]

  people who thought the terms of course I [TS]

  should not be that crazy just because [TS]

  they knew how monkey balls this would [TS]

  make them once they got the chance [TS]

  Wilson was a was totally opposed to two [TS]

  like imposing all these massive [TS]

  sanctions on Germany it was all [TS]

  Clemenceau and that's this kind of [TS]

  French mentality that like now we get [TS]

  ours and she's we are gonna and we're [TS]

  gonna shame the Germans were going to [TS]

  punish them they're never ever gonna [TS]

  they're never gonna do this again and it [TS]

  was a it was a bit was super bad move [TS]

  and really like it relative to how that [TS]

  war was fought and what the how it [TS]

  turned out it was just like it was just [TS]

  a bitch slap you think it would make a [TS]

  difference [TS]

  do you really think it would have made [TS]

  it less likely that the things we've got [TS]

  as bad as they did you think it was its [TS]

  tongue that hard that that there was [TS]

  some kind of a few like a tipping point [TS]

  where if that had not been as owners and [TS]

  people could have bounce back faster it [TS]

  was there was no ver side there would [TS]

  have been no hit but there's just less [TS]

  force I mean had it was a very with [TS]

  their reparations what was a tell me a [TS]

  little bit of foresight you get [TS]

  reparations like literally owners [TS]

  reparations you've got you can't have a [TS]

  standing army over 100,000 or something [TS]

  uh well you also lost the something [TS]

  germany lost not inconsiderable amounts [TS]

  of their territory to France but but [TS]

  more than that it was a it was that I [TS]

  mean awesome the big effect of [TS]

  Versailles was was as a result of [TS]

  trianon which was kind of separate sub [TS]

  treaty where they redrew the borders of [TS]

  all of Eastern Europe the modern Hungary [TS]

  is a product of of basically the treaty [TS]

  of versailles modern romania [TS]

  the whole idea of of slovakia really [TS]

  Poland modern Poland mean all those [TS]

  countries there their borders were all [TS]

  drawn up in that treaty as a way of [TS]

  punishing austria in particular um but [TS]

  the i mean the the reparations that [TS]

  Germany had to pay to France bankrupted [TS]

  the nation more more than that though it [TS]

  was just this it was it was that it was [TS]

  the institutionalized humiliation of the [TS]

  Germans that was like completely [TS]

  unnecessary you look at the end of world [TS]

  war two where America instituted the [TS]

  Marshall Plan which was listen not only [TS]

  we're not going to shame you but not [TS]

  only are going to make it nicer than it [TS]

  was before that not only are we not [TS]

  going to tax you were going to show you [TS]

  how we're going to do we're going to [TS]

  show you with money how we think how we [TS]

  suggest maybe we can make this a better [TS]

  place and we got so much mileage off of [TS]

  that it's really we made what so until [TS]

  about until just about let's say maybe [TS]

  about nine years ago eight years ago [TS]

  week we had so much we got so much of a [TS]

  pass on stuff maybe even stuff we didn't [TS]

  deserve just because people were still [TS]

  like drinkin out of those wells or [TS]

  whatever I mean just still driving on [TS]

  those roads it's my blow but we remade [TS]

  the world to I mean modern Europe is a [TS]

  is in in so many ways a product of the [TS]

  Marshall Plan a product of that American [TS]

  what you would call i think the [TS]

  Wilsonian idealism the idea that America [TS]

  is able to be altruistic you know and [TS]

  there are a lot of cynics that would [TS]

  that we're going to poopoo that and get [TS]

  get slobber on the front of their bibs [TS]

  but but that altruism of like when would [TS]

  not only we're not going to punish you [TS]

  were going to stand in front of anybody [TS]

  who wants to punish you and we are going [TS]

  to pour money into this country to [TS]

  develop to redevelop your industry the [TS]

  industry that we just bombed into rubble [TS]

  we're going to build it back up for you [TS]

  and turn it over to you [TS]

  and all we ask is that you not started [TS]

  more Wars does that sound cool and you [TS]

  know it's amazing in retrospect [TS]

  especially for somebody and this issue [TS]

  again that and the the gulf between the [TS]

  classic idea of of consumer like in the [TS]

  old days when Republicans being a [TS]

  Republican being conservative mostly [TS]

  meant being financially conservative by [TS]

  and large system [TS]

  yeah or it but it also meant like we all [TS]

  agree that what's good for businesses is [TS]

  good for America in some ways and think [TS]

  about the marshall plan is something [TS]

  also we're creating markets anything [TS]

  about how many of our biggest trading [TS]

  partners over the next 30 years came [TS]

  straight out of countries that that that [TS]

  we were trying desperately to destroy [TS]

  and then help rebuild and I mean [TS]

  Japanese of the drink Japanese and [TS]

  Germans I mean it to the strongest [TS]

  economies in the world right i just i [TS]

  just googled this just so that I had my [TS]

  facts straight [TS]

  but the in 1921 the amount of [TS]

  reparations demanded of Germany was the [TS]

  equivalent of 100,000 tons of pure gold [TS]

  which was at the time represented more [TS]

  than fifty percent of all the gold ever [TS]

  mined in history [TS]

  so is that this day there's the insult [TS]

  of this impossible thing being put on [TS]

  the table and then there's the 10x [TS]

  insult if you have no fucking choice but [TS]

  to sign it right it's that kind of kind [TS]

  of like users and unless that's that [TS]

  we're not here to defend the Chairman [TS]

  but like you know it's about to sign it [TS]

  because and really this is think we're [TS]

  all out of food and that was it wasn't [TS]

  like Germany you have to sign the treaty [TS]

  of versailles because you are out of [TS]

  food and France is sitting here like [TS]

  sipping from the milk of human kindness [TS]

  remember but France was out of food to [TS]

  like everybody was out of food [TS]

  yeah England didn't come out of that for [TS]

  like another one like five or eight [TS]

  years that England is still recovering [TS]

  for war world war one that they lost [TS]

  their in an entire generation of men and [TS]

  what you want to be a dumbass something [TS]

  about world war two of course I [TS]

  apologize that was a stupid thing to say [TS]

  no well right in England in England got [TS]

  back for more work to a little bit [TS]

  faster let's take that long to come out [TS]

  of World War one [TS]

  let's say let's say England was back [TS]

  in 1985 well 89 let's say between take [TS]

  45 in 1989 they were just limping along [TS]

  i mean it looked pretty hot in London [TS]

  but baby I think we get I think we can [TS]

  thank you asus entire yeah it was always [TS]

  really it was it was it was mad gesture [TS]

  you know it was that it was the happy [TS]

  mondays that really brought in one back [TS]

  but no I mean I that the 1919 there were [TS]

  no Englishman left I mean that an entire [TS]

  generation of of and probably what what [TS]

  you could arguably say was going to be [TS]

  England's most brilliant generation [TS]

  those guys to the that though what it [TS]

  looked like in 1914 if you could be in [TS]

  1914 and imagine what they thought the [TS]

  next 10 years was going to be who it was [TS]

  going to be the most fertile time in [TS]

  English history I swear to you that was [TS]

  that it was just it was that there was [TS]

  this feeling in the air in 1914 that [TS]

  anything was possible modernism was [TS]

  happening there was a there was a [TS]

  culture there was a culture of [TS]

  literature there was people were moving [TS]

  away from like colonialism was kind of [TS]

  on the wane but that but they still had [TS]

  all the power of uh of of like their [TS]

  far-flung colonies intellectually it [TS]

  wasn't very fashionable anymore but [TS]

  there was still like they still had all [TS]

  the strength it was a it was this [TS]

  incredibly fertile time it was all [TS]

  across Europe you think about the [TS]

  industry Cal art in germany and austria [TS]

  all of the sort of bauhaus e klimt II [TS]

  kind of like you go to those cities you [TS]

  go to those those little towns in the [TS]

  czech republic that were not bombed out [TS]

  by the war where the architecture is [TS]

  this incredibly feminine beautiful arc [TS]

  texture and public planning where the [TS]

  the city's feel incredibly solid but [TS]

  there's a femininity to everything that [TS]

  you don't you don't associate with the [TS]

  Germans but released their list of [TS]

  fragility when you look at the [TS]

  expressionist there's a certain to such [TS]

  a fragility I everything in such a such [TS]

  a questioning of your own perception of [TS]

  things I don't know an emotional [TS]

  presence in an emotional awareness that [TS]

  was actually taking shape in the waste [TS]

  in the with towns were built and in the [TS]

  way it in it in such small things like [TS]

  men's fashion and and I mean it was it [TS]

  was this incredibly sensitive time and [TS]

  everyone was killed the everyone through [TS]

  the whole continent was just massacred [TS]

  and at the end of it there was nothing [TS]

  left [TS]

  it was just the shards of memory and [TS]

  where they're still trying to recapture [TS]

  it's the the tragedy of it will who will [TS]

  send me into a blue funk and really well [TS]

  but uh what was lost and we think about [TS]

  history being a thing that like oh it's [TS]

  inevitable that happened right history [TS]

  there it is and you never think about [TS]

  what could have been but small [TS]

  differences back then could have [TS]

  produced an entirely different world now [TS]

  we can't even imagine we they they felt [TS]

  at the time that they were on the cusp [TS]

  of discovering a new way a new way in [TS]

  music a new way in our new way in [TS]

  politics they were they believed that it [TS]

  was the dawn of a renaissance and I and [TS]

  I think it was too and that Renaissance [TS]

  was was just wiped off the off the earth [TS]

  well I mean yes and think about think [TS]

  about where we got all our guys to make [TS]

  the bomb think about like what it was [TS]

  was so much education the value they [TS]

  were all use the word choice though [TS]

  yeah and but I mean that was this was it [TS]

  was also there is there was so much [TS]

  crazy stuff happening in education [TS]

  scholarship you name it [TS]

  butBut you and you know I think there's [TS]

  a reason several reasons it's not the [TS]

  story of something like Anne Frank [TS]

  resonates with us because you know it [TS]

  was a child and an innocent [TS]

  and it was complicated thing and like [TS]

  owen fucking a if it had been like one [TS]

  more month she might have lived is such [TS]

  an awful story but you know what really [TS]

  gets us is it's one story that we can [TS]

  understand its unbearable to think about [TS]

  the number of people who died but you [TS]

  know it's also it's just all so [TS]

  unbearable to think about how many of [TS]

  their own people they killed certain [TS]

  people from all over the place and and [TS]

  but you know I for me this is the weird [TS]

  thing you want to get off on these Jags [TS]

  as Hitler jags on wikipedia and i'll go [TS]

  and look at the section that says I'm [TS]

  calling on my butt's like certainly [TS]

  things like musicians who died in the [TS]

  holocaust right or you go you could go [TS]

  and read about writers who died [TS]

  you could certainly read about gosh you [TS]

  read about writers that were just get [TS]

  killed in the pins in the field in World [TS]

  War two [TS]

  it is standing how much I certainly was [TS]

  a pointless are necessary but how much [TS]

  just like senseless death on both sides [TS]

  happened to level like some of the best [TS]

  minds of the generation and sometimes [TS]

  you don't see it until you go like [TS]

  fucking trumpet players who died oh [TS]

  that's right home but you know I'm [TS]

  saying like you wouldn't take it down to [TS]

  that level and then you go and read [TS]

  about that one person you know and that [TS]

  that resonates as you especially the [TS]

  anne frank thing I mean like that's [TS]

  that's such a cliche but i mean its [TS]

  original story that's been passed but [TS]

  the whole fucking idea that she died of [TS]

  the disease like seriously wasn't like a [TS]

  month before they liberated the camp [TS]

  yeah I mean and this is the kind of town [TS]

  that you can expect from Hitler and [TS]

  stuff [TS]

  well we're gonna find it we're gonna [TS]

  find it we're gonna find easy answers [TS]

  this is gonna be a fun podcast really [TS]

  this is I think we got something here [TS]

  John it's astonishing to me though is [TS]

  that you know when you think about like [TS]

  all the writers that diner all the [TS]

  trumpet players that time you think [TS]

  about that in terms of like all there [TS]

  might be a couple fewer books there [TS]

  might be a few few few more a trumpet [TS]

  solos or whatever but but the reality is [TS]

  that we the culture that we're living in [TS]

  now is a product of the people that [TS]

  survived the war [TS]

  mhm and thinking about all the people [TS]

  who didn't survive the war and the [TS]

  culture that they would have produced [TS]

  and where we would be now are our [TS]

  understanding of the human condition [TS]

  that would have resulted from those [TS]

  trumpet solos and books that didnt get [TS]

  written is on its own it's unfathomable [TS]

  how far I think how far behind we are [TS]

  where we where we would have been and [TS]

  it's impossible to measure it's about it [TS]

  it's it's a it's numbing to think about [TS]

  but I read an article in the newspaper [TS]

  the other day it was the 60th [TS]

  anniversary or another well as at the [TS]

  70th anniversary just a couple of days [TS]

  belle of the day that all of the Jews [TS]

  and France were marshaled into the [TS]

  trains and this woman who survived the [TS]

  war was talking about she and her five [TS]

  brothers and sisters were standing in [TS]

  this camp with they were in the camp [TS]

  with their mother and their father was [TS]

  was somewhere else working and the word [TS]

  went out through the camp ok tomorrow [TS]

  all the mothers are going so say [TS]

  good-bye good-bye and they spent all [TS]

  night huddled together and then in the [TS]

  morning huddled together crying and then [TS]

  in the morning they came and these are [TS]

  Germans these are French men who were [TS]

  working for the Germans who came in the [TS]

  morning and took the mothers away and [TS]

  put them on a train and sent them to the [TS]

  gas chambers and imagining that now as a [TS]

  father [TS]

  these kids you know with their hands [TS]

  through the barbed wire fence as their [TS]

  as their mother is being led away by [TS]

  like a local guy and being put on a [TS]

  train [TS]

  it was just it's one of those moments [TS]

  where you think about the Holocaust all [TS]

  the time were raised thinking about [TS]

  World War two but but the unfathomable [TS]

  inhumanity of those small moments was [TS]

  just like that guy who probably lived [TS]

  the rest of his life in france was never [TS]

  prosecuted for it he woke up every [TS]

  morning [TS]

  remembering that what he did [TS]

  you couldn't help but remember it you [TS]

  could not help but be haunted by it [TS]

  every day of your life and all through [TS]

  France there are you know a million [TS]

  stories of that and this is the thing we [TS]

  think about all we walk around Germany [TS]

  and all they've erased all the swastika [TS]

  is but there are a million people in [TS]

  France with a similar story with a [TS]

  similar picture in their attic if they [TS]

  don't bring down because it's a picture [TS]

  of granddad in his like collaborationist [TS]

  cop outfit but what it would take to do [TS]

  that what how your mind would I I got [TS]

  into this long correspondence with a [TS]

  professor at the University of [TS]

  Washington when I was walking across [TS]

  Europe where I was saying listen it is [TS]

  gone from Germany whatever that [TS]

  mentality was the I cannot find it [TS]

  anywhere i talk two Germans every day [TS]

  what about the war what about the war [TS]

  what about the Holocaust what did your [TS]

  family do what are your feelings about [TS]

  it and it is gone [TS]

  whatever it was that that made that [TS]

  happen is no longer here you could not [TS]

  get the Germans to do it again right but [TS]

  the fact that it was only 40 years ago [TS]

  at the time for 50 years ago and the [TS]

  fact that it is completely erased now [TS]

  means that it is in my opinion in all of [TS]

  us all the time like it is never gone [TS]

  it's always there because it was it [TS]

  because it happened so simply it you [TS]

  know there was a series of factors sure [TS]

  but the people in Europe or waiting for [TS]

  the opportunity to become monsters and [TS]

  I'm and I believe that we are all human [TS]

  beings waiting for the opportunity to [TS]

  become monsters it is in us because the [TS]

  inhumanity it would require of a person [TS]

  to reach through a fence and take [TS]

  another away from her child and put her [TS]

  on a train is it it's it's it's so [TS]

  unfathomable that in fact [TS]

  i think is like this this dormant [TS]

  monster that is in all human beings and [TS]

  this professor at the U who I admire [TS]

  very much kept writing me saying do you [TS]

  honestly believe that do you really [TS]

  believe there could be a holocaust in [TS]

  the United States and I was like so [TS]

  here's the problem i don't believe it [TS]

  could have happened in Germany i'm [TS]

  standing in Germany surrounded by [TS]

  Germans every day and I don't believe it [TS]

  could have happened here but he did and [TS]

  so if you are standing in America and [TS]

  you don't believe it could happen [TS]

  that's the problem and and that's what [TS]

  really well played but all it was also [TS]

  amazing is in some sense is you could [TS]

  ask yes people anywhere in the world [TS]

  anytime after say you know what happened [TS]

  to the Armenians any say i will put a [TS]

  little bit of our losing Turkish [TS]

  listeners but you start you say like [TS]

  will could there ever be a situation [TS]

  where millions of people were basically [TS]

  exterminated in one of those civilized [TS]

  countries in the world and of course [TS]

  everybody when in 1928 say now and in [TS]

  1938 probably say now [TS]

  weirdly enough a lot of people in 1940 [TS]

  would have said now a lot of people in [TS]

  1950 would still be saying now of course [TS]

  there are people today who not only say [TS]

  that didn't happen but it can happen and [TS]

  it's it you're right you're right it is [TS]

  the this still insanely relative recency [TS]

  of that the fact that we still no family [TS]

  members who would never even drive in a [TS]

  BMW or or toyota but but also I mean [TS]

  it's just all along the way it is [TS]

  actually so inconceivable the the scale [TS]

  of it and yet it is is so incredibly [TS]

  present and yet it is it's that very [TS]

  presence that makes it so hard to accept [TS]

  you know and I you know this is part of [TS]

  me that wonders how many Holocaust [TS]

  revisions people are are are just [TS]

  bananas and how many people how many of [TS]

  them know they're lying and how many of [TS]

  them just frankly can't grok the [TS]

  staggering nature of it and think that [TS]

  there's no logical way that it could [TS]

  have happened [TS]

  notnot to apologize for that but like [TS]

  it's something that is almost impossible [TS]

  to imagine [TS]

  when you watch this film was when you [TS]

  went to go see count cabinet of dr. [TS]

  Caligari when we take up any of the [TS]

  German culture that was just like [TS]

  happening at the time that did you know [TS]

  what the people who would be college-age [TS]

  would be dying it's it's it's staggering [TS]

  how quickly that happened [TS]

  mmm really is for Hitler and stuff yeah [TS]

  this is gonna be good [TS]

  I really like this podcast it's gonna be [TS]

  so fun did you know that raccoons are [TS]

  native to North America and were [TS]

  introduced into Germany right before the [TS]

  war by a game warden who said why don't [TS]

  we why don't we turn some of these [TS]

  little funny bear's loose in Germany so [TS]

  that the hunters will have something new [TS]

  to shoot what could possibly go wrong [TS]

  what could go wrong [TS]

  so now there are millions of raccoons in [TS]

  Germany the germans call them wash Baron [TS]

  meaning little bears that wash [TS]

  themselves that's a sweet it is we [TS]

  accept that Germany is divided between [TS]

  half the determines who think that the [TS]

  little wash bears are cute and the other [TS]

  half of the Germans you feel like the [TS]

  little wash bears are massive pain in [TS]

  the ass because they're like breaking [TS]

  into their homes and stealing their [TS]

  stereo equipment and it's it's a minute [TS]

  the pictures other ones that are really [TS]

  into Los paradises Washburn choice and [TS]

  Mike's rock you know about new tree is i [TS]

  dunno about nutrients but why don't you [TS]

  tell us about nutrient have you ever [TS]

  seen a nutria I have never in the flesh [TS]

  seen a nutria I understand that they are [TS]

  they are big like they are fucking [TS]

  horrific like beavers right there bigger [TS]

  smaller there [TS]

  yes they are but here's the thing [TS]

  imagine imagine all of the worst aspects [TS]

  of impossible for mr. rat that's because [TS]

  i'm awesome flat a fever [TS]

  ah American whether it's like this part [TS]

  of their any bad qualities about a [TS]

  beaver arm [TS]

  well if you see with a rat's tail you [TS]

  might change your mind yeah I think [TS]

  you're right it's a look at [TS]

  I can look at it and look at the top I [TS]

  don't want to look at they're so gross [TS]

  I've been anywhere when you make it [TS]

  sound like this [TS]

  oh you've seen nutrients in real life I [TS]

  was in New Orleans long time ago and [TS]

  probably the early nineties and we're [TS]

  driving around our friends like all new [TS]

  trees they're everywhere story goes and [TS]

  adding your your Big Chief tablets i [TS]

  fear that my profile or without might [TS]

  seal permanently and we're driving [TS]

  around and then again with it wasn't [TS]

  Kristin was that her name [TS]

  Christie was saying like oh you know [TS]

  about the nutrients and I was like I [TS]

  don't know anything about the nutrients [TS]

  and i'm not going to read this but I'm [TS]

  just from memory the story goes the in [TS]

  the midst of the whole like roaring [TS]

  twenties was it was it bear code [TS]

  remember you're already got there they [TS]

  were trying to make gonna make a beaver [TS]

  coat or whatever they're all these like [TS]

  animal skin coats that everybody was [TS]

  buying that were like a less costly [TS]

  version of like first but yeah because [TS]

  you see you're writing your writing in [TS]

  the rumble seat of somebody out and your [TS]

  fraternity you're wearing a straw boater [TS]

  and your stuff as many guys as you can [TS]

  into a phone booth and you Coco you want [TS]

  to treat well because the thing was now [TS]

  the understandably this was going to be [TS]

  to this was like the knockoff rubik's [TS]

  cube of hairy coats because they were [TS]

  going to do there's no way they could [TS]

  come up with demand keep up with the [TS]

  demand so i apologize if i have to go to [TS]

  correct this later but the story goes [TS]

  they started raising all of these in a [TS]

  serious i really encourage you to go and [TS]

  look at images of these creatures I'm [TS]

  going to go look at it [TS]

  I think you're going to see how it is [TS]

  really the worst of almost everything [TS]

  but where did they come from originally [TS]

  nutrients well let's go to the wikipedia [TS]

  i actually really understanding is that [TS]

  now they're trying to serve them in [TS]

  restaurants down there they're trying to [TS]

  do you think anything will build houses [TS]

  out of them if they can now women it's [TS]

  called a coypu yeah from my boo dungan [TS]

  our center is a river at where oh i see [TS]

  LOL kappa Duncan isn't is a language [TS]

  that the Duncan is the map originally [TS]

  originally from from sell children [TS]

  America and see but going to scroll down [TS]

  a little now you know beavers got orange [TS]

  teeth but this one's got super orange [TS]

  teeth and look at it just look at every [TS]

  how back to that Red those t see how big [TS]

  they are [TS]

  and she's talking about this is also [TS]

  here's the story so the story goes then [TS]

  then the bottom falls out of the market [TS]

  for fucking animal coats and you know [TS]

  what they did they opened up the cages [TS]

  and let him run [TS]

  what could possibly go wrong look at him [TS]

  and like so many of these kinds of [TS]

  creatures they breed prodigiously and [TS]

  now they run around New Orleans and I [TS]

  thought oh that's very funny if memory [TS]

  serves Kirsten Kristin know there's no [TS]

  sanitary system must be and she said [TS]

  well I one point we're driving along she [TS]

  goes oh look out the window like look at [TS]

  the you know like the median strip and [TS]

  this thing it the way that it was [TS]

  ambling it's horrifying the way this [TS]

  thing moves and it's so much fucking [TS]

  bigger than you think I mean it is like [TS]

  you know like when you see directly to [TS]

  go haha raccoon but if you really see a [TS]

  raccoon like when you saw that Mama [TS]

  shied away 15 20 pounds right [TS]

  oh yeah she's a big girl yeah so what I [TS]

  wanted these way I don't know but I love [TS]

  here that they they have the [TS]

  conservation status on a on a sliding [TS]

  scale from extinct yes to train for at [TS]

  least concern that's not every animal [TS]

  page and it always makes me laugh [TS]

  there is no concern about this is a [TS]

  status that says fuck you animal [TS]

  we are not concerned about about the [TS]

  corporate now these things run around [TS]

  they run around they're fucking [TS]

  everywhere and really go look at lots of [TS]

  pictures of these because you're not [TS]

  going to sleep well tonight and now they [TS]

  have this whole thing I think for a [TS]

  while they had a bounty thing I think is [TS]

  on cable with actually got and you go [TS]

  out and try to shoot these things and [TS]

  now i think there was actually like a [TS]

  control efforts [TS]

  yeah oh absolutely i knew about that and [TS]

  that they were trying to try to convince [TS]

  people that it was good they were good [TS]

  eating and that in New Orleans you could [TS]

  go in and get nutrient gumbo guarantee [TS]

  but you know you think of beavers cute [TS]

  that beavers cute enough but you know [TS]

  it's just I'm you know I'm clicking on [TS]

  some of this stuff and the number of [TS]

  pop-up pop-up ads that just came up i [TS]

  haven't seen a pop-up ad something since [TS]

  1995 we might have a windows virus on [TS]

  your Mac how do you get a windows virus [TS]

  on your back straight [TS]

  god I got date-raped and now i'm looking [TS]

  at but you don't think they'll be always [TS]

  killing beavers cute enough but a a [TS]

  beaver has fucking orange teeth and [TS]

  use this ain't no beaver it's got you [TS]

  ever seen a possum and it's got that [TS]

  really nice-looking rat tail on it like [TS]

  a big penis rat tail there's the possums [TS]

  all over Seattle I think the child to [TS]

  bleach on a possum once this story oh [TS]

  that's terrible did you really know [TS]

  here's the series is my last day start [TS]

  something ridiculous like josh stewart [TS]

  of Springfield Oregon crawled under a [TS]

  house on a plumbing job it was nearly at [TS]

  the back of the house when he heard a [TS]

  noise behind him and turned to c5 baby [TS]

  nutrients between him and the way out [TS]

  his first thought was where's the mother [TS]

  then he saw three adults closing in on [TS]

  him the first one Randy kicked it there [TS]

  wasn't much room to maneuver in the [TS]

  20-inch crawl space but he managed to [TS]

  get ahold of rock and smashed it [TS]

  repeatedly in the head [TS]

  this guy is a super commando unit number [TS]

  under the South killing neutral brought [TS]

  the 2nd one handed him and his leg in [TS]

  toward his face so he grabbed it and [TS]

  killed it [TS]

  this guy's drenched in blood at this [TS]

  point one of the babies as well he is my [TS]

  God we're reading this almost dying [TS]

  Mengel of nutrients [TS]

  that wraps it up quite neatly oh no way [TS]

  can we put this out [TS]

  uh-huh [TS]