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Ep. 23: "Flange of the Angel Curve"

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0:00:00hello hey John how are you I'm Merlin

0:00:08was going it's going pretty good

0:00:11yeah my mouth a little dry was that

0:00:14well you know I quit drinking coffee and

0:00:17without coffee in the morning it's

0:00:20nothing else seems good so i don't so

0:00:23don't eat breakfast I don't have juice i

0:00:26just kind of sit in

0:00:29I would know first of all I got to say

0:00:31that I don't know if you're looking for

0:00:33a little i should go on the side but you

0:00:36being sad and saying that line in a

0:00:38commercial could be like the best thing

0:00:39that ever happened to the company

0:00:40industry without coffee

0:00:43nothing in life soon good without coffee

0:00:50is delicious lubricating mouth listeners

0:00:52John Rother it doesn't know what to do

0:00:54with himself in the morning

0:00:55my mouth is dry and my taste buds aren't

0:00:58thrilled like they normally are you need

0:01:01coffee now i have to tell you like

0:01:04there's things i think the hardest part

0:01:06for me with any kind of habit and I have

0:01:07many many bad habits i've been adding a

0:01:09couple of week on and you're

0:01:12skateboarding again a terrible habit i

0:01:15can keep with the Garlett sucks i'm

0:01:18doing that doing a 720 they call it the

0:01:21720 uh yeah they do call was about the

0:01:23720 okay all the 720 without a

0:01:26Nicaraguan my mouth need you know

0:01:27someone in the cigar goes a little bit i

0:01:31literally just find twice while I blew a

0:01:33guy from Central America a big

0:01:35Nicaraguan the big ring gauge 52 don't

0:01:38seem like your argument I don't smoke

0:01:39but here's here's the thing keep their

0:01:41stuff around the house or wow no no abre

0:01:48la puerta a problem where job putting up

0:01:52some kitchen cabinets are my Spanish is

0:01:55poor John my god that's funny you live

0:01:57in California and yours

0:01:58I should really be focusing on the

0:02:00mandarin my Cantonese you hear michael

0:02:02here with my fake am I think Mandarin oh

0:02:04my god i don't really talk

0:02:08up that's your fake Mandarin that

0:02:12sounded like to fool ooh la la you eaten

0:02:17in my neighborhood there's probably

0:02:18there's a lot of like money hands and

0:02:20cthulhu in a lot of the food you don't

0:02:23want this morning speaking of money

0:02:24hands and concealer is this morning I

0:02:26went to that place to place you enjoy

0:02:27here in wichita my god I love that place

0:02:30he's such a sweet guy it's the dirtiest

0:02:32food I've ever eaten I've eaten some

0:02:33dirty food i'm gonna mention them by

0:02:35name because i don't know but i would

0:02:37like you know I've learned a couple

0:02:38things about my neighborhood actually

0:02:40I'd like to share for songwriting

0:02:41espanol

0:02:42so you say that in Spanish he said who

0:02:44espanol

0:02:46yeah on you lo siento most i want to

0:02:49start off by saying lo siento that's

0:02:51less than to just rolls off my lingua

0:02:53hate got one season was a issue yours

0:02:59lo siento primera listing ended second

0:03:05oh so español it's hard i'm sorry i

0:03:09don't come back to your mouth also have

0:03:10a good friend who's living in France now

0:03:12who has a child with a French lady

0:03:15anemia and here

0:03:17well that would be if you had a

0:03:19childhood Spanish lady had trouble with

0:03:22the French lady it's something else they

0:03:25start a war that kind of thing that a

0:03:26media but but I said that so how how's

0:03:30your friends and he said I don't speak

0:03:31French and I said well your daughter is

0:03:34like seven years old now how's her

0:03:36English he said not so good at analyze

0:03:39that

0:03:40so how's that working he said well like

0:03:43a lot of French people my daughter

0:03:44thinks that I'm kind of stupid big

0:03:48French i think by some measures I don't

0:03:52want to sound some callow but by some

0:03:54major she's stupid

0:03:55I think that's purely a French don't

0:03:57think he's just this stupid

0:03:59I mean I think that's pretty fucking

0:04:00download doesn't learn to speak to you

0:04:02know what I'm saying it's like having

0:04:04it's like having a deaf daughter and not

0:04:05bothering to learn how to sorry not

0:04:07different

0:04:08oh that you think i don't know which a

0:04:11deaf child you should learn to sign do

0:04:14you think what else I don't know it's

0:04:16like I don't know I'm remember immersion

0:04:19I don't know

0:04:21because i'm not here to judge that's not

0:04:23matter slices it the deceased Iran's

0:04:26license a deaf child no connection hard

0:04:29that would be on him he wanted to

0:04:30explain something about like what kind

0:04:32of wood was used in the room was

0:04:34recorded in and maybe going to look at

0:04:36the voice but not anywhere Spanish for

0:04:39mouth mouth and talk about your mouth

0:04:40being dry okay

0:04:42poka poka poka poka his mouth Pocoyo

0:04:45well so what

0:04:47what's but mouth in Chinese in fig

0:04:49Mandarin be serious you really wanna

0:04:51know I don't wanna hear it don't do it

0:04:52up and come back to your mouth but don

0:04:56so this place that we go you've been

0:04:58there

0:04:58yeah uh yeah and so it's you know dim

0:05:02sum is a kind of dumpling i know i know

0:05:05people who live on the on the two sides

0:05:07of the country now this but you know

0:05:09it's it's a very popular Chinese like

0:05:11most Americans another was that another

0:05:13anti Oklahoma City joke but you just

0:05:15made no no giving people in the middle

0:05:17of America and everyone can dokie

0:05:19they're good people 10-15 years from now

0:05:22when they get computers and wires god

0:05:24they're gonna get mad

0:05:26uh-oh guys will get wires your mama care

0:05:30at me

0:05:30Thank You wires in oklahoma city I love

0:05:33that some small haggar right

0:05:35ya know get wired be there when they get

0:05:38wires in Oklahoma on fire today it's in

0:05:42flagellation spinach and play go and I

0:05:45drink I drink like a like two

0:05:47tablespoons of coconut I'm like a

0:05:49throwaway I can't drink sweet things

0:05:50anymore

0:05:52oh really you you're quitting pop you

0:05:54know I've been offered for a long time

0:05:56goddammit that So You Think actual like

0:05:58carbonated water in cannes you've been

0:06:01drinking that front mount a sodastream

0:06:03and so I've just been down in those 12

0:06:06packs from lucky

0:06:07yeah it's crazy it's like I'm on the

0:06:08past again I used to be able drink a lot

0:06:11of beer John I don't you know that

0:06:13I never saw you during your your many

0:06:15many cans of paps phase

0:06:17yeah you know it's weird i have a lot of

0:06:19really problematic things but I i think

0:06:21i might be a you can tell me if this is

0:06:23the kind of things to come up in

0:06:24meetings but like I can just an honor

0:06:26flight today I can't drink beer like it

0:06:28makes me really really tired but I used

0:06:30to be a guy who could just drink a whole

0:06:31lot of beer you know what let's not get

0:06:32into it now let me ask you this as a man

0:06:34in his forties yes is there anything

0:06:37that doesn't make you tired haha man i'm

0:06:41saying my god John that's the question I

0:06:43never would have expected at least want

0:06:45to hear the chatter and laughter you

0:06:47everything makes me tired sleeping makes

0:06:50me tired i know a single thing that even

0:06:52the things that you love the most

0:06:54do they not oh my god the worst I you

0:06:56know the thing is a kid as you know I'm

0:06:57a bad parent and I my daughter I are

0:07:00really super into Star Wars i swear i

0:07:03got like she's she's into it too I swear

0:07:05to god I'm sure I will you know what I'm

0:07:06not being that guy yeah my dad is an old

0:07:08fan shutter a lot of dads out there who

0:07:11are doing some questionable things but

0:07:12and justifying but by saying she's into

0:07:15a2 yeah yeah it's not football

0:07:17this is angela Skywalker totally

0:07:18different help the Anakin Skywalker so

0:07:23one of the things I'm doing I don't

0:07:25don't tell her I said this but on

0:07:27there's really only kind of two things

0:07:29in life that I really if I had my

0:07:32druthers that that she would like you

0:07:35know students i wish you know one of

0:07:37them is not start worse it's really I i

0:07:40really hope that she likes to unite

0:07:41again let me just stipulate this is not

0:07:43me saying I hope she's like me in two

0:07:45ways because I hope she likes to read

0:07:47and I hope she likes music and she's

0:07:50kind of into reading and she's kind of

0:07:51into music and you know me like I don't

0:07:53push her into anything but really she's

0:07:55still a zygote you can't tell what she's

0:07:57got a very of all of my many many

0:07:59problems in life I was a very early

0:08:01reader so I mean it is ok but you were

0:08:03very early reader but there was a there

0:08:04was a there was a decided minimum of

0:08:08other things to distract you right i was

0:08:09also there is very very lonely John so

0:08:12maybe she's got she's got a million

0:08:13things besides reading that she can a

0:08:16million ways she can input information

0:08:18and I think this is this is going to be

0:08:20the fifth card I don't return to this

0:08:21but really I think literacy as a concept

0:08:23is changing i loath to admit that but I

0:08:25really think it's true we should come

0:08:27after that so here's the thing i bought

0:08:29a bunch of star wars books some of them

0:08:31are awesome like visual encyclopedia you

0:08:33know the school DK books they've got

0:08:34about all different things I don't do

0:08:36not know anything about the car wars

0:08:38books

0:08:39John just just just really i don't know

0:08:42a thing about the trying to try and see

0:08:43past your numerous counteracts and just

0:08:46stay with me

0:08:47Nancy Drew Hardy Boys means you really

0:08:51that's what I need to go well she's a

0:08:53little girl Nancy Drew solves mysteries

0:08:55disappear Brown I know but I did 20 what

0:09:02was his name

0:09:03the little boy who solved solved the

0:09:06detective stories and smoke cigarettes

0:09:08and his name was a close family and

0:09:12Socrates oh you have his name

0:09:16you know my keyboard is still dead on my

0:09:17computer I look it up on the Internet

0:09:19written that down here and we really

0:09:20need to talk about that now I mean not

0:09:22because it's about computers because I

0:09:23you're like a man who has a dry in

0:09:25missing mouth at this point

0:09:27yeah I said in front of my computer and

0:09:28I could move the mouse i can click on

0:09:30things but the Internet has been try

0:09:32this at home

0:09:33the internet has been reduced to just

0:09:36things i can click on i can i can add no

0:09:38text of my own

0:09:40this is the funny thing I mean obviously

0:09:42you've always need to type letters but

0:09:43the original Macintosh they designed

0:09:46every application so that short of the

0:09:47times when you had actually make words

0:09:49you you know you wouldn't need the

0:09:50keyboard but obviously if you want to

0:09:52have words and search for things i don't

0:09:54find porn without without typing well I

0:09:56have to go to these i have bookmarked

0:09:58all these automobile sites who are

0:10:02dealing with classic cars and so I go

0:10:04there and then I just have to click on

0:10:06things and hope that if i click on

0:10:08enough advertisements i will click

0:10:10through to some porn

0:10:12I mean ice like that the hundred

0:10:14thousand monkeys yeah right you click on

0:10:16click on the add for motor oil

0:10:18eventually had will find something tank

0:10:20yeah even the on that page you see an ad

0:10:23for you know getting your tires rotated

0:10:25very they call it bubble sorting your

0:10:27kind of going through and you're just

0:10:28saying less is more that that's good

0:10:30that's really good just for that pretty

0:10:32soon it's like oh did you mean get your

0:10:35tires rotated and you're like wow I'm I

0:10:39I don't know what you're saying but yes

0:10:41click and then you're on my like wrote

0:10:44in quotes rotate your tires right if

0:10:47you're ready those kind of like New

0:10:48Yorker ads for like buckwheat pillow and

0:10:49put lights you know you're going the

0:10:50wrong way your tire so I got checked out

0:10:53get out

0:10:54let's get to skate when you skate key on

0:10:58ah fuck boca oh so anyway I got the star

0:11:02wars books and you know she's always

0:11:05saying this day I had had lunch with

0:11:06this the sky is that kind of like a

0:11:08friend of mine is like kind of a hero of

0:11:10mine actually worked on some star wars

0:11:11movies great guy and we're talking about

0:11:13like what you showed your kids because

0:11:14he's got a kid is just a little younger

0:11:15than my daughter and I was saying like

0:11:17you know I accept my bad Parenthood but

0:11:19I I'm really okay with her watching Star

0:11:23Wars movies and pics are not partly

0:11:25because you know what I like them

0:11:26it's not a dora the explorer and you

0:11:27have a deal with dora the explorer at

0:11:29all

0:11:30no my child is is still too young to

0:11:32understand what any of these things are

0:11:33she the only time she's like something

0:11:35that's like saying I just hope I just

0:11:36hope i get her away from mumps and

0:11:38rubella like you proactively get in

0:11:41front I I understand the theory and you

0:11:43know and i have i've spoken to many of

0:11:45my my wired friends not friends who work

0:11:48at wired but i don't want to say cyber

0:11:49friends for cyber friends let's say

0:11:51cyber friends and you know there are

0:11:53there a lot of there are a lot of

0:11:55opinions but they seem to break into two

0:11:57camps one of the camps is I as the

0:12:00father i'm going to curate her digital

0:12:02life so that she gets only the best Star

0:12:06Wars crap and the other fathers are like

0:12:09that uh ten years from now they're only

0:12:11gonna be books so just give him the

0:12:14given the gadgets and let them figure my

0:12:17friends am i think half are

0:12:18ideologically reductive and i think the

0:12:21other half are reductively illogical

0:12:23that is a false dilemma you wanted to

0:12:25know your college you didn't graduate

0:12:26from that's a nice mm i do both I way

0:12:29I'm helping I'm helping I don't want to

0:12:31watch dora the explorer i'm in the third

0:12:33school which is that that until she's 16

0:12:36or her afternoons are going to be sent

0:12:39been chopping firewood cutting trail we

0:12:41got a lot of trails around here that

0:12:43need improvement to read the Bible I

0:12:45mean like we got it you got to get out

0:12:46there in the woods you got to cut some

0:12:48trail you gotta concentrate i like that

0:12:50term you know I mean you play that up

0:12:52just make that up no customer that's so

0:12:55that's an old that's a whole day old

0:12:57trapper miner 49er have no idea what it

0:12:59means but I can't think of a possible

0:13:01place that wouldn't apply exactly

0:13:03exactly your lines right one right now

0:13:06no you're in line mcdonalds taking

0:13:07telling you come on asshole cut some

0:13:09trail right here with your lady as you

0:13:11do and you say you know what let's let's

0:13:14let's put this one away and cut some

0:13:15trail

0:13:15let's cut the aid baby let's cut some

0:13:17trail like it exactly you want to cut

0:13:18some trail so anyway that's my mind was

0:13:21my philosophy is the only the only video

0:13:23screens that she's gonna see in her life

0:13:25are going to be when she's over at her

0:13:27friends houses where her parents don't

0:13:29understand how life works absolutely or

0:13:31when she's after you've been like

0:13:32indicted or something in that solution

0:13:33the judge is on the other monitor or

0:13:35something like that yeah

0:13:36or when she's trying to get my attention

0:13:37and I'm looking at my phone why they

0:13:39call it social only those things that

0:13:41you don't think she's going to see a

0:13:43screenshot screen time

0:13:45so anyway sorry star wars books that's

0:13:47all the screen time things complicated

0:13:48it really is and you know it's funny

0:13:50though because I sometimes get these

0:13:52cautionary tales I try so hard to not

0:13:54like sometimes in the morning I like

0:13:56look at my computer something i'm tired

0:13:58of waking up even with my coffee which

0:14:00yeah what's the best part of waking up

0:14:02your computer in the morning we got come

0:14:05back to this right now on your card

0:14:07I understand you're doing that John was

0:14:08talking more about you said you stopped

0:14:09for a while you're sleeping better

0:14:11oh yeah the you know I quit drinking

0:14:13caffeine because I anything because

0:14:16anything that makes me have a have an

0:14:18edge over the week I I like to like to

0:14:22try so I see all the people in Seattle

0:14:24that wasn't within within your

0:14:26boundaries within some boundaries within

0:14:28within a few boundaries boundaries are

0:14:29secondarily physical and pharmacological

0:14:32but if i may say you cut a lot of trail

0:14:34with your boundaries you that's just

0:14:36part of a much larger thing that I've

0:14:37been something much larger system i

0:14:39think yeah well I was you know the other

0:14:41day I was at a hotel in los angeles and

0:14:42i was i was we were having a little

0:14:44salon there and there's a there was a

0:14:47fellow there who is a famous podcast

0:14:50Empire type of character who's also a

0:14:53very snappy dresser

0:14:55and he starts to break this is this

0:14:58little mustache boy he started to berate

0:15:00me know what the deal is with that guy

0:15:02because i'm sitting in the lobby of this

0:15:04fancy hotel and I'm dressed in that in

0:15:07at in an outfit that is generally you

0:15:10know what it is like casual cool just

0:15:13wearing your jacket from the prisoner

0:15:14because i was wearing some my white

0:15:17piping South OTT with you what you had

0:15:20some white piping and Syria that reads

0:15:22as the prisoner is that is that what

0:15:23you're looking for

0:15:24oh I it's a hell i always like to feel

0:15:27like i might walk into a train station

0:15:30bathroom and it's actually a portal to

0:15:32wizard school for me might be easy

0:15:34steampunk and I want to talking to

0:15:37mustache make penny farthing and he he

0:15:39starts to break me because I'm wearing

0:15:41white athletic socks with my with my

0:15:44outfit of otherwise of careful

0:15:47discernment and I said well white

0:15:49athletic socks are more than a matter of

0:15:51personal style they are it's a survival

0:15:53students a survival technique and he

0:15:57hugged he thaws and all the people at

0:15:59the table you know gonna fall in that la

0:16:01style we're all wearing clothes that you

0:16:04know that they couldn't survive for 20

0:16:07minutes in the desert inn and I said

0:16:09listen you never know when the

0:16:10apocalypse is going to come it could

0:16:11come at any time it could come right now

0:16:13while we're sitting here and you're

0:16:15wearing your expensive men's hoser II

0:16:17and she's wearing four-inch high heels

0:16:20and then all of a sudden we're not

0:16:21sitting here with waiters bringing us

0:16:23calamari we are trekking across a

0:16:27waterless burning deserts cape and my

0:16:30white socks are going to wick away

0:16:32moisture and they're going to keep my

0:16:35feet comfortable and one-by-one you

0:16:37you people are going to drop off and

0:16:40become hyena food and you're gonna say

0:16:43now he had he had the white piping on

0:16:45his jacket looked pretty good but it was

0:16:48the White Sox that ended up being the

0:16:49deciding factor

0:16:52is I think you're right and I I'm just

0:16:55thinking I don't know quite how to

0:16:57express my admiration it's nice to be a

0:17:00table with you when the room really

0:17:01changes but it's a nice feeling because

0:17:04it is it isn't leave that you're just

0:17:06simply a disturbing outside of crack

0:17:08it's that youryour you have wisdom as

0:17:10you know i mean as certainly as our

0:17:12listeners now you're bringing a lot of

0:17:13wisdom helping people but you have a way

0:17:15of really reframing things for people

0:17:17and when I can be a little disruptive

0:17:18especially if they can't leave well this

0:17:21is the thing with their second try to

0:17:22run in heels like that that I calculus

0:17:24so it's terrible they have to take them

0:17:25off and then they're in their pantyhose

0:17:27and you can't run across he's burning

0:17:29answer going anywhere fancy house

0:17:30anymore

0:17:31well in any case every time I see a girl

0:17:33with a belly button piercing I say the

0:17:35same thing which is what if you and I

0:17:38need to get over a chain-link fence

0:17:40really fast like do you think your belly

0:17:43button piercing is like how these women

0:17:44you manage people

0:17:45well it might be the greatest opening

0:17:48let me ask you a question excuse me miss

0:17:53let me ask you a question belly button

0:17:55pierced what if we have to get over a

0:17:57chain-link fence and ready to help you

0:17:59know if that gets snagged we're both in

0:18:01trouble and I'm not saying that you're

0:18:03in trouble and I'm gonna because when

0:18:05i'm with you right i gotta-i gotta stick

0:18:07around I gotta fend off whatever

0:18:09whatever devil dogs it is because now

0:18:11you better you come to rely on her

0:18:13well or at least you know I'm not a

0:18:14mount I'm not a monster she might you

0:18:16may know the combination for something

0:18:17you need to be exactly

0:18:18yes and now she's hanging upside down by

0:18:21her belly button piercing from the top

0:18:22of a chain-link fence

0:18:24yeah and I'm then I got to go back over

0:18:26the fence and i gotta i don't know i

0:18:29gotta fight fight off whatever it is

0:18:30that's chasing us

0:18:31it's really you got to think about these

0:18:33things well if you're not thinking about

0:18:34it you will have to eventually right and

0:18:37my wife watch out i kind of watches a

0:18:38half

0:18:38she's more into it tonight and I half

0:18:40watch that show the walking dead it's

0:18:41really good but you know I think I I

0:18:43don't want to get the whole internet

0:18:45zombie thing but I'm just saying once

0:18:46you think even just kind of a little bit

0:18:49about what you would do if you were

0:18:50suddenly surrounded by zombies

0:18:52I think suddenly you're getting a lot of

0:18:53your piercings you know I think you're

0:18:55doing a lot less like harajuku cosplay

0:18:58like with funny shoes and complicated

0:19:01hair that that's not going to stand up

0:19:03well you're gonna be in situations where

0:19:05you

0:19:05you have to make a lot of instantaneous

0:19:07decisions where you you see down this

0:19:10tunnel of the future all the options

0:19:11that you all the branches you might have

0:19:13to deal with and if you're sitting there

0:19:14thinking about a lot about a piercing

0:19:18John M piercings

0:19:20well and that that's why I walk around

0:19:22with that look on my face that I have on

0:19:23my face

0:19:24most of the time which is which is a

0:19:27look that's been carefully crafted to

0:19:29suggest that if the shit goes down

0:19:31suddenly and I'm in an airport for

0:19:35instance and everyone in the room goes

0:19:38from being there like I'm a civilized

0:19:40person in an airport person to being

0:19:43there

0:19:44yeah person as as they transform I want

0:19:50them as they're scanning the room for

0:19:52the person to that for the person

0:19:54closest to them but they're going to

0:19:55either glom onto right or try and

0:19:58cannibalize I want them to look at me

0:20:01and then choose the next person you're

0:20:03not planning your not panicking and if

0:20:05you are the first of all like the city

0:20:07they're scanning their suddenly scanning

0:20:09their everybody scaring everybody phones

0:20:11about to run out

0:20:12they've been writing on facebook there's

0:20:13nothing left that sandwich that they

0:20:15bought in like a triangle applying the

0:20:17triangle I hate the plastic triangle

0:20:19isn't so much a question triangle that's

0:20:21living and and the thing is that's gone

0:20:23now

0:20:24right on the front you're in a room with

0:20:251600 people answering the MV and the the

0:20:29facade is suddenly gone

0:20:31oh no that the White Sox are off and the

0:20:33thing is all those fucking energy drinks

0:20:35your giant fucking energy drinks that

0:20:37you drank and never made anything good

0:20:38with there are gone

0:20:40the ice is melted and now there's gonna

0:20:42there's going to be had to be some

0:20:42serious decisions you look at one man

0:20:44that room you see the statuesque man

0:20:46that's a little bit like the guy from

0:20:46the prisoner and you're going to think

0:20:48you're going to think twice about going

0:20:49over there

0:20:50yeah that's not the guy who's back

0:20:52you're going to jump on and say carry me

0:20:55out of here you can call or carry Gorp

0:20:57or what kind of body we carry with you

0:20:58in the event of oh yeah I always have a

0:21:00I always have my eye on I got a little

0:21:03pouches I don't reveal too much John I

0:21:05mean for any variety of reasons i know

0:21:07that there are certain things that we're

0:21:09just not gonna talk about in right i

0:21:11hope that i am respectful of those

0:21:12things but i think i think you are

0:21:14you're very good

0:21:15um I mean I'll talk all day about the

0:21:17makeshift makeshift weapon

0:21:19you can improvise I don't know what I'm

0:21:21gonna haha i write it down you can only

0:21:25how to start a sharper image can be

0:21:26someone somewhere in America somebody

0:21:29sitting at a console in a giant tsa

0:21:30warehouse their computer just turned red

0:21:34and when alert alert alert right

0:21:37whatever weapons airport terminal what

0:21:39happens every single time I'm in line at

0:21:42the TSA think i'm watching a little bit

0:21:44of tsa theater and and then and then

0:21:46some

0:21:47a recent immigrant pushes a 50 gallon

0:21:49bucket through a separate lane for the

0:21:51airport employees right and this guy he

0:21:55kinda he just does this kind of like the

0:21:56wave and he's pushing a giant giant

0:21:58giant uninspected bucket there looking

0:22:00at old peoples wheelchairs right to make

0:22:02sure that they don't have munitions that

0:22:04they're taking five year old shoes off

0:22:05and sniffing them

0:22:06that's right I got to I got my I got my

0:22:10man bag touched pretty much that goes

0:22:12through with a 50 gallon bucket full of

0:22:13maybe lard maybe c4 explosive well in

0:22:17like it's just full of garbage like

0:22:18they're going to go through and inspect

0:22:19every piece of garbage going in and out

0:22:21I'm just saying like you know the thing

0:22:22is it's like the right with the

0:22:23spiderwebs catching the wasps buzzing

0:22:25wasps rai got nothing

0:22:27um not another weapons in the airport

0:22:29for example and I blame you for this i

0:22:31found myself and then that is such an

0:22:34important phrase in my life that so

0:22:35often I find myself doing you do find

0:22:37yourself it's it's a passive

0:22:38construction but at the same time that

0:22:41is what happens I want to understand

0:22:42your influence I for some reason i think

0:22:45i took my a.d.d medicine too late

0:22:47I wasn't sleeping well and I woke up is

0:22:49about four and it's an awful period

0:22:50between like oh I really need to go back

0:22:52to sleep which would be a 2 a.m. where i

0:22:54might as well get out which is a 5am no

0:22:57problem for me i can write it with you

0:22:58between those two places it's a weird

0:23:00time and and you know it's like oh do

0:23:03this so I did this thing I almost never

0:23:05do i picked up the ipad and i started

0:23:08reading about trying for the world haha

0:23:10okay and let our clock in the morning we

0:23:13may need to have an offshoot sort of

0:23:15Laverne and Shirley to our happy days

0:23:16but we just talked about Nazis because I

0:23:19gotta tell ya I think there's just so

0:23:21much a world war two in general

0:23:22obviously the Nazi specifically don't

0:23:24even know what angle you begin with is

0:23:26so fascinating the angle i chose this

0:23:27night was to learn more about the major

0:23:30figures right okay you know i'm a nerd

0:23:32very interesting instrument very

0:23:33interested in the essay in general but

0:23:35ice finally sat down and read the entire

0:23:37wikipedia entry for Goering Goebbels and

0:23:40Hitler oh my god and I learned one night

0:23:42only on doing sighs and in again it's

0:23:45like watching The Wizard of Oz it's like

0:23:47I know how this goes but it's so

0:23:49interesting to see it again now that I'm

0:23:50older

0:23:51yeah now now here's why do I mention

0:23:52this because I'm really sorry that I

0:23:55ever met you but also one of them i

0:23:58think i want to say who's a snappy

0:24:01dresser that was gearing during yeah you

0:24:03want me to snappy dresser for a

0:24:04400-pound he's very very happy man have

0:24:07you read about some of his outfits

0:24:09oh absolutely and all medieval hunting

0:24:11outfit with oversized type it

0:24:13yeah well I mean my favorite has to be

0:24:16the you know the his powder-blue Air

0:24:18Force reichsmarschall outfits I made

0:24:20designers own flat

0:24:22yeah he did I was like have you ever

0:24:24seen pictures of during this house is on

0:24:27vacation of gearing is uniform and and

0:24:28it looked like it might have had a

0:24:30preschool in it it was very very large

0:24:32and it it had that you know that fact

0:24:34that fact think it's not simply a long

0:24:36drapey jacket but it has it actually has

0:24:39the shape of a very very large man

0:24:41because I becomes it becomes like a like

0:24:44a tent that might be used in the desert

0:24:46but I like a baseball glove right like

0:24:48if you wear a glove long enough it looks

0:24:50a little bit like your hand and this

0:24:52looks a lot like caring

0:24:53um anyway I think I want to say Hitler

0:24:56who seems like maybe the most troubling

0:24:58of those characters he caused a lot of

0:25:00trouble I don't have you know that my

0:25:01yeah oh yes I mean girls you know these

0:25:03guys are famous right and who was the

0:25:05one that had the cyanide embedded in his

0:25:07tooth i think that might notice on

0:25:11Hillary thought really thought he was

0:25:13gonna get away with it he weaseled out

0:25:15at the end and he dressed up like

0:25:16somebody else and you had a whole bill

0:25:18right exactly have tried to like sneak

0:25:19out now caring like to hang himself

0:25:22relevant United himself in prison after

0:25:25but he SAT through the whole Nuremberg

0:25:27trial he SAT through it all with ass

0:25:29with a smirk on his face and then after

0:25:32they sentenced him to death

0:25:33only then did he kill himself in prison

0:25:36I just can't just rush to get date was

0:25:38like that was like any encourage things

0:25:39like the day before he was supposed to

0:25:40be hanged I mean you heard anniversary

0:25:42of the day the day up they found a

0:25:43minute

0:25:44greenhouses great Holly something in

0:25:45Curtis in reverse he just the he just he

0:25:48just robbed all of us of the pleasure of

0:25:51killing him for vengeance didn't like

0:25:54slipping on Melissa bitch too

0:25:56or was the other guy know is the rectum

0:25:58lot of chatter makka blogger study kill

0:26:00himself in prison

0:26:01one of the guys yeah I think he just

0:26:02died I think he died he died her he died

0:26:05of heart sickness because he realized

0:26:08and was sad he was sad to death didn't

0:26:11just become an herbalist I think that

0:26:12was Melissa bitch he became a respected

0:26:14Ervil herbalist who went here and join

0:26:16us beard should say because he looks a

0:26:17little bit like you all those people in

0:26:19the ball in the Balkans you know they're

0:26:22all just almost anybody in the Balkans

0:26:25the president of any one of those

0:26:26countries could be an astrologer at the

0:26:29drop of a hat you know what I mean that

0:26:31it was into that stuff too

0:26:33i'm using ones with the OG called not

0:26:35more than mythology the shawl or like

0:26:38our cannot arcane was a cult

0:26:40he's very into the occult yeah and

0:26:41pseudoscience John you get a lot of

0:26:43dental work done you've had a lot of

0:26:45dental issues in the past i believe as

0:26:46we speak you have some orthodonture I

0:26:48don't want to my entire life my entire

0:26:50life is like the working script of

0:26:52marathon man that's rough i actually had

0:26:55an orthodontic appointment today and I

0:26:56cancelled it at the last minute and lied

0:26:58to them and told them that I was still

0:27:00in Los Angeles you you finally got into

0:27:02their good books and you fuck that up

0:27:04well because because I just a I'm so

0:27:07exhausted i've had i've had braces for i

0:27:10think a lot longer than I need to have

0:27:12the only reason that I that I've had

0:27:15them for so long as that I keep not

0:27:16following through on all the

0:27:18appointments because it got do

0:27:19adjustments and that's just you just

0:27:21pushing out the project right it's that

0:27:23you've got to have that adjustment for

0:27:24so long before the next adjustment right

0:27:26and i just keep skipping appointments

0:27:28and they're like well we gotta do we

0:27:30have to do it we gotta wait another nine

0:27:32months or something haha

0:27:34have you ever have you ever priced out

0:27:35if you can say and if you can't just cut

0:27:37this out like something like this old

0:27:39however price to having all my

0:27:41stepfather who as it happens with jelly

0:27:43bellies

0:27:45we think about that and I want to read

0:27:47by Himmler my stepfather who by the way

0:27:50was an execrable Serb is a general

0:27:52surgeon my stepfather's a Serb I didn't

0:27:55realize that yeah there's a certain he

0:27:56had to get all he had all his teeth

0:27:57pulled and false teeth big big false

0:27:59teeth like tony robbins a lot of people

0:28:01in the old days had all their teeth pole

0:28:03it just made sense

0:28:04well my mom describes it as like before

0:28:08there was before those dental hygiene or

0:28:10before there was a full understanding of

0:28:12how infection works that the your teeth

0:28:16were the source of all these mysterious

0:28:18infections and people would people would

0:28:20routinely die or have chronic pain

0:28:22because of what was going on in the

0:28:24roots of their teeth and so so dentists

0:28:26and doctors would routinely recommended

0:28:28that you have all your teeth polls in

0:28:31order to like as a health restorative it

0:28:35sounds medieval but actually the place

0:28:37where I the dentist who was nice enough

0:28:39but I eventually couldn't stand going

0:28:41there anymore

0:28:41his mother who is his dental hygienist

0:28:43constantly gave me this article every

0:28:45time I went in about how if you didn't

0:28:47flossing your teeth clean enough to get

0:28:48a heart attack and apparently this is

0:28:50science now is that is that there's

0:28:52something there's something I know it's

0:28:53plaque or whatever but there actually is

0:28:55turns out there's actually some

0:28:56connection between what you're

0:28:58describing here it's not just the dark

0:29:00of your stuff to the question to you is

0:29:02again like so many things i say we will

0:29:04cut this out if it's problematic

0:29:06have you ever gotten I've ever got an

0:29:09estimate on what it would cost to have

0:29:11cyanide or something similar embedded in

0:29:13a tooth from okay it's okay don't say

0:29:15you know what don't say no well here's

0:29:17the thing i have never ever felt

0:29:20suicidal and in the hospital reason all

0:29:24the more reason to have it there it's

0:29:26like Nietzsche says right but my feeling

0:29:28is my feeling is in those moments fight

0:29:31the guards you know what I mean fighting

0:29:34the guards to death like don't sit in

0:29:36your prison cell and take your take your

0:29:38stuff so you're saying that's a pussy

0:29:39way out it's totally pussy when they

0:29:41come for you on that day and they lead

0:29:43you down a peg or karate in a tooth with

0:29:46a small very very thing right

0:29:48happy little wire that you suddenly sick

0:29:50people out of your be to get a point at

0:29:52that danger

0:29:54I mean even in a situation like that

0:29:56where there is no way that that that fat

0:29:58old lady

0:29:59mass Hermann Goering is going to be able

0:30:00to fight these young American guards in

0:30:03this prison castle he should at least

0:30:05give the old college try and you know

0:30:08and then throw himself off a balcony or

0:30:11something but like students cyanide come

0:30:13on and work that's that's the pussiest

0:30:16way this is just like General Grievous

0:30:18in Star Wars who's his are used to be a

0:30:21more organic and asthma mostly a robot

0:30:24with two opposable thumbs on each hand

0:30:25and the dislocated shoulder second fight

0:30:28with four lightsabers

0:30:29but the point is it's a lot like the

0:30:30Nazis because he's a coward ultimately

0:30:32the colored are you telling me that

0:30:33somewhere inside of that General

0:30:35Grievous thing there is some kind of

0:30:37living organism that's the theory that

0:30:41is actually i was reading on wikipedia

0:30:43that he's apparently secretly

0:30:45embarrassed that he's part like mostly

0:30:47cyborg George Lucas expects us to

0:30:50believe that that CGI creation has the

0:30:52heart of a human being

0:30:54got that cough to you Reza know because

0:30:56i never have watched those movies i've

0:30:57only seen them when i'm sitting on an

0:30:59airplane and I look over and some poor

0:31:01kid his dad has put it on a ipad who to

0:31:04try and keep him quiet and I look and I

0:31:06see what is that stupid thing that's the

0:31:08dumbest looking thing I ever saw

0:31:09fascinating coffee now let's to do with

0:31:12Star Wars event then Harrison Ford in

0:31:15American Graffiti did you stop the

0:31:20coffee all at once to taper I'm getting

0:31:23it all at once i could see you being man

0:31:24who pulls your own teeth and you just

0:31:26stopped buying coffee it's not even in

0:31:27the house or did you keep it in the

0:31:28house and have a tempting just to make

0:31:30you stronger

0:31:30no experience the house i have coffee

0:31:32all over the place and I'd like that

0:31:33around just so strong

0:31:35well that's what you have to build that

0:31:36strength you can't you didn't just trip

0:31:38into it

0:31:39this is part of this is all part of part

0:31:41of the larger practice when I quit

0:31:42smoking when I could drinking like with

0:31:45all those things you gotta quit them

0:31:46cold turkey and then sit there with the

0:31:49perspiration dripping down your forehead

0:31:50and really be in the middle of your

0:31:53suffering you have to own your suffering

0:31:55because that is how you feel like

0:31:57exactly what I hold the thing had over

0:32:00you now you have to get to you have to

0:32:03explore every little last corner of the

0:32:06of the power that that whatever that was

0:32:09of the power that had over you

0:32:11to understand what you're quitting you

0:32:14know a lot of people are like oh I quit

0:32:15this or that but I took a bunch of

0:32:17medication during the turn to come down

0:32:20period or whatever it's like no no the

0:32:22comedown period is the soul of quitting

0:32:25something you gotta be in it and and

0:32:29feel like all the nerve endings fraying

0:32:32and feel the headache feel the you know

0:32:35feel the craving and-and-and by like

0:32:39suffering through that then you know

0:32:42what the limits of craving archives

0:32:43craving has limits

0:32:45there's no there's no I mean unless you

0:32:47are a san diego mom in which case there

0:32:50are no limits your cravings but I don't

0:32:52know that reference with you if you're a

0:32:56southern california power-walking mom

0:32:58ha ha yr sea ice is out there power

0:33:00walking around an outfit eyes catalogs

0:33:03and stuff yeah just power walking down

0:33:05to the to the boutique and getting a

0:33:07getting a mani-pedi whatever you're

0:33:09craving is bottom was clearly that's how

0:33:12something that Southern California

0:33:14states and business but realize is my

0:33:16tradition i will not discuss Buddhism on

0:33:18here but you're describing something

0:33:19somewhat similar to that I will also say

0:33:21I'm really fucking glad I never had to

0:33:23guard you at Nuremberg

0:33:24you seem like you'd be a real handful

0:33:26well because the first thing you do is

0:33:28through the whole trial you trying to

0:33:29get inside your guards minds

0:33:31that's right so that they were so they

0:33:34get a little bit of the stockholm

0:33:35syndrome in Reverse where they're

0:33:38guarding you but then they start to feel

0:33:39like I mean I obviously i think the

0:33:41Nazis were deplorable but if I were I'm

0:33:45not so you'd like the stormtroopers in

0:33:47Star Wars i think i think they're

0:33:48they're not always a good shot and

0:33:50they're not that bright

0:33:51a lot of them and I think they're easily

0:33:52swayed by the dark side or in your case

0:33:54bye-bye really just the force in general

0:33:56you have I think you might have the

0:33:57force more than you're willing to admit

0:34:00well I don't talk about the force that's

0:34:02a good idea

0:34:03that's not a good idea but aren't clear

0:34:06on the stormtroopers clones isn't that

0:34:08the whole theory

0:34:09spoiler alert yes that I just learned

0:34:11this recently myself when i made the

0:34:12excursion into those movies as

0:34:14fascinated to learn that I learned about

0:34:15order 66 which is just really is i still

0:34:18have a lot of questions i'm logged in

0:34:19the first end up in the first three

0:34:20movies by which I mean the second three

0:34:23movies or I don't know how to talk about

0:34:24it

0:34:25talk about coffee the original movies

0:34:27there was no mention of that being

0:34:28clones

0:34:29isn't that where am i right isn't that

0:34:31sort of revisionism or or what was the

0:34:34clone talk in the books before the

0:34:35movies you want to bring up religion

0:34:39we're talking about Star Wars gonna

0:34:40bring up religion yes i do be careful

0:34:43buddy you got that you got you got three

0:34:46sources that is dangerously close to

0:34:48electric outlet right now my phone to

0:34:50threaten me with you talking about

0:34:51religion but you know what you could

0:34:54turn that right around and ruin the rest

0:34:55of my afternoon i'm very aware of that

0:34:57you're absolutely right and but you know

0:35:02what this interesting talking about

0:35:03stars and other places no but the truth

0:35:04is he had an idea in mind fairly early

0:35:06on but for example the the secret of

0:35:09star wars that we never mentioned

0:35:10because you never know who might not

0:35:12know the best sticker star wars that

0:35:14idea did not even appear anywhere until

0:35:17nineteen seventy-eight so during a

0:35:20product or after the movie still

0:35:22oh yes they were still just still

0:35:23writing one of the awful scripts for you

0:35:27know

0:35:27yes b-but i just i just read in the

0:35:29newspaper yesterday that the guy that

0:35:31did all the paintings that that

0:35:33established all the look of Star Wars

0:35:35just done with Macquarie alpha probably

0:35:38had arguably the person with the single

0:35:41largest influence on y star wars was

0:35:44cool and look the way it did

0:35:46huge is to keep calm and Starkiller i

0:35:49was going to look Skywalker's name i

0:35:51just mentioned another show we should

0:35:52move on and so you just stop the coffee

0:35:53that didn't get like a little

0:35:54ridiculously when I've done that before

0:35:57I get totally wang headache

0:35:59oh it's the worst you're not just

0:36:01waiting headache but you're psychotic I

0:36:03get psychotic you feel your uh your

0:36:07capillaries right throughout your body

0:36:09you can feel you the one time I had

0:36:11acupuncture I was lying on my

0:36:15acupuncture bed in this room that

0:36:17smelled like lavender and put it like

0:36:20weird

0:36:21bing-bong jazz plan and i'm going to

0:36:25have cucumber water close cucumber water

0:36:28and I had everything I had the whole

0:36:29thing and and and she's but my

0:36:33acupuncture is putting the needles in me

0:36:35and I'm sitting there kind of thinking

0:36:36like

0:36:37this is this is baloney and then all of

0:36:41a sudden I feel you know those diagrams

0:36:43that used to see an old encyclopedias

0:36:45where shows you your circulatory system

0:36:48like the visible mankind Invisible Man

0:36:49stuff for you were all of a sudden you

0:36:51just see the outline of the human body

0:36:54as as as like described by the

0:36:58circulatory system and the nerves

0:37:00mhm also I could feel that it wasn't

0:37:03abstract it was not abstract I could

0:37:05feel it it was it became the primary

0:37:09feeling i had so i would I no longer

0:37:11felt like the weight of my body or

0:37:14whatever I just felt my skin and my

0:37:16circulatory system i could feel every

0:37:18inch of it and i SAT there for a minute

0:37:21or two and I went wow that's a fantastic

0:37:23sensation

0:37:25I'm III don't know what to make of it

0:37:27and I'm i can mold it over and then she

0:37:30starts taking the needles out and I said

0:37:33what are you doing what were you

0:37:35why are we stopping and she said it's

0:37:37been an hour at that must have freaked

0:37:42you out

0:37:43I said what what it's been it's been

0:37:46three minutes and she said it has been a

0:37:48nap

0:37:49it's been an hour and 10 minutes

0:37:50actually we went over and I was like oh

0:37:53ok i don't know what that is

0:37:56I don't know what I don't know I don't

0:37:57it didn't actually help with my neck

0:38:00pain that I've that there's the reason I

0:38:02came here like I walked out with just as

0:38:04much neck pain as i had when i walked in

0:38:06so maybe you who maybe put that 15

0:38:10needle in like just a micrometer to the

0:38:13side and you connected with my time

0:38:15traveler muscle or whatever but that was

0:38:19amazing and I talked to the streets the

0:38:22streets of vern I think this is a great

0:38:25thing but kind of like taking MDMA it's

0:38:30not a thing that i know there's not a

0:38:32thing that is predictable reliable

0:38:33enough for me to go back do this all the

0:38:35time because I you know you just like

0:38:38you sent me

0:38:38you just sent me through space would you

0:38:40try it again oh absolutely but I

0:38:42wouldn't i do not think based on that

0:38:44one experience i didn't think i would go

0:38:45with a pain in my neck and say hey can I

0:38:49get acupuncture for this pain in my neck

0:38:50because it seems like it seems like it's

0:38:52just like you should go to acupuncture

0:38:54all the time didn't work for adventure

0:38:56or prophylaxis yeah for adventure right

0:38:58i mean whatever that is if you can do

0:39:00that if you put little pins in somebody

0:39:01and make them feel their circulatory

0:39:03system you can do a lot of crazy shit

0:39:05and maybe if it's an 80 year old Chinese

0:39:07man he knows exactly how to do it and

0:39:08and and and you can suddenly flyer you

0:39:12can lucid dream or whatever it is but uh

0:39:15didn't get up early to get up earlier

0:39:18you could yeah you could look at get

0:39:20develop a work ethic but you wouldn't

0:39:22want to start depending on that because

0:39:23you never know one day the airport my

0:39:25collapse and 70 80 year old Chinese man

0:39:26with needles right exactly you're not

0:39:28going to carry him along with myself

0:39:30must put your hand on a wooden beam

0:39:32sometimes then you must be thinking hard

0:39:33about what if this works it works too

0:39:35well right then you're back where you

0:39:37were before

0:39:38well I guess I yeah exactly exactly what

0:39:41I refractive you think that's real

0:39:42I've never done that and i did a website

0:39:45for a chiropractor of many years ago and

0:39:47and like every chiropractor I've met

0:39:49that there's nobody is just a

0:39:51chiropractor like they're all

0:39:52evangelists right and the thing is to be

0:39:55dead honest like I just either so little

0:39:58i needed to understand about

0:40:00chiropractic to make a three page

0:40:01website

0:40:02well and it feels a little tony robbins

0:40:03doesn't get any better is it feels like

0:40:05that it feels like that religion we

0:40:07don't mention because i don't want to

0:40:08get you to sign up for 20 sessions and

0:40:11you will be happier and more secure

0:40:13secure obviously it seems a little

0:40:15fantastical to hook someone up to a box

0:40:17and then tell them how many years of

0:40:19payments are going to need to fix them

0:40:20that seems a little little wacky to me

0:40:22but in this case this guy and the thing

0:40:24is a virus will never read the secret

0:40:26can I just literally beg you to never

0:40:29bring them back up again it's I'm not

0:40:34proud a per se about having been

0:40:37involved in the South self-help industry

0:40:39and it's been something that's being

0:40:40very troubled relationship

0:40:42yeah mentally with that for a long time

0:40:44right but boy I just

0:40:47yeah boy that book makes me and you know

0:40:50in fact that Oprah but like push that

0:40:52book with all that Oprah

0:40:54oh that Oprah coming coming coming this

0:40:57coming this this father the Dumont

0:41:00Network show that Oprah um here's the

0:41:03thing anybody so I couldn't even be

0:41:05caffeine and I felt I felt my

0:41:07circulatory system again

0:41:09oh it was not pleasant it was unpleasant

0:41:13my circulatory system was protesting it

0:41:16was rebelling against me yet

0:41:17second-order Mandarin needles every

0:41:19every little inch right I every look

0:41:21every little corpuscle in my body was

0:41:23saying you want you did what God give us

0:41:27our magic juice you bastard and my

0:41:32friend gets migraines and he's

0:41:34explaining to me and actually it's my

0:41:36shrink about this because I was trying

0:41:37to get this guy some help business is

0:41:38actually like a famous migraine guy at

0:41:41the at the replace regular my shrink is

0:41:44and I he helped you with migraines and

0:41:46apparently and I I don't get this wrong

0:41:48but one reason migraines are so

0:41:50difficult to treat is that they involve

0:41:53three different systems i guess there

0:41:55are other things like this but you know

0:41:56if you've got there's all kinds of

0:41:58things that you can fix with fairly

0:42:00blunt object right if you've got a basic

0:42:02tension headache like taking advil will

0:42:04probably help a little bit but I'm a

0:42:06migraine apparently combines the

0:42:08circulatory system your muscles and and

0:42:12neurology you know your kind of i'm

0:42:14sorry to be getting this wrong tom if

0:42:16you ever hear this but you know what i

0:42:17mean it's not as simple as going to know

0:42:18your neck is too tight so now you have a

0:42:20headache right it's very difficult to

0:42:22get that combination of things fixed and

0:42:24I think that's why people get so

0:42:25frustrated you know what I mean and I

0:42:27mean if you had a migraine

0:42:28no but my mom gets them and I recognize

0:42:31that they are but they're nightmarish

0:42:33that the thing is for me it's like when

0:42:35I when I tried I any squirrely change in

0:42:38diet I i do I very uncomfortable for

0:42:41with any of those diets that mean I

0:42:42can't have coffee with cream or vodka

0:42:44Murnau tequila I really like tequila now

0:42:47but like that's always been found in

0:42:49overtime that's been that's been pretty

0:42:50reasonable for me not my buffet diet

0:42:52choosing on but there are ones like

0:42:55every day like one of those cleanses or

0:42:56something like that

0:42:58I you know there's a while

0:43:00back in the early nineties where there

0:43:03was a there was a restaurant on Broadway

0:43:04called the gravity bar and their voice I

0:43:08wish that were exactly what it sounds

0:43:10like depend we have to get going and get

0:43:13like an extra tenth of a gee your hair

0:43:16well that's kind of that's kind of what

0:43:17it was like you go in and you get it was

0:43:19a raw vegetable bar they would steam

0:43:22they would steam vegetables just for a

0:43:25second you know we could get them wrong

0:43:27but you could also get them like steamed

0:43:29and then with a little side of tahini

0:43:31it's just like a salad bar with the

0:43:33philosophy except except well yeah right

0:43:36exactly a it except that it looked like

0:43:38it was it will look like it was in the

0:43:39future and it only hired the most

0:43:42beautiful like fresh-faced kind of kind

0:43:46of those girls that that have a little

0:43:48bit of a light a light coating of

0:43:50perspiration on fri now I still a little

0:43:53because they're just they glow this come

0:43:55with their wedding without a little bit

0:43:57Brown like slightly darker skin

0:43:58sometimes and so I would go into the

0:44:00gravity bar mean believe me I didn't eat

0:44:02another vegetable in any other component

0:44:05or capacity in my life but this place I

0:44:07would go and I would have these and they

0:44:08were actually delicious meals that was

0:44:10where I learned to drink wheatgrass

0:44:11juice which I love to this day but I so

0:44:16the gravity bar was you know it was like

0:44:18going to a spaceport and sitting in and

0:44:21talking to the beautiful girls behind

0:44:23the counter and eating these vegetables

0:44:24with with tahini and everybody else that

0:44:27was in the gravity bar was also in space

0:44:30with you and that you know i would take

0:44:33would sit and take like a shot of

0:44:35wheatgrass juice like I was in an old

0:44:38west saloon and I was daring all the

0:44:40people around me like come on who's

0:44:42gonna drink with me who's gonna have

0:44:44another shot of wheatgrass youth you

0:44:46know people are like like burping these

0:44:49big gathering their handbags and quietly

0:44:51shopping out in their party and I'm like

0:44:53it I love it it's better than carrot

0:44:55juice in fact give me a carrot juice

0:44:57give me a carrot juice chaser and

0:45:00identidade some girls that work there it

0:45:02was a it was a very it was a it was a

0:45:04very out a productive time there's a

0:45:07lady you we were once I want to visit

0:45:09their lady you've been with for a pretty

0:45:10long time in the work

0:45:11in a restaurant a nice restaurant was a

0:45:13café café con place right around nice

0:45:16cafe nice restaurant cafe again will cut

0:45:18this out of its problematic but is it is

0:45:20it and I getting that a lot of women in

0:45:22your life are people who were able to

0:45:25give you food or drink and a early on

0:45:30the I'm just saying like okay so you

0:45:32didn't go with the Chinese noodle guy

0:45:33i'm guessing you didn't like fine girl a

0:45:36reiki instructor or some of the works

0:45:38tsa it seems like a lot of lot of these

0:45:40people who have been touched by your

0:45:42presence where women who worked in the

0:45:45food service our coffee gallery business

0:45:48well it's true I later on I started to i

0:45:51started to date girls who worked in

0:45:53library science which was a nice

0:45:55thousand nice trend first so they want

0:45:58to help someone is there something they

0:46:00speak with this week softly which is

0:46:02which is nice when you're when you're

0:46:04when you have tendency to get agitated

0:46:05but in any case this gravity bar the one

0:46:08thing as I spent more time there I

0:46:10started to notice that they had a small

0:46:12shelf of books and you know being

0:46:16someone who has never shied away from

0:46:17small shelf of books i started to go

0:46:21over and and you know and ask questions

0:46:22about these books and then eventually I

0:46:24bought one which was about the souper

0:46:27miracle cleanse this is the super

0:46:30miracle class of 25 years ago or

0:46:32whatever where the we're reading this

0:46:35guy's story it was the story of how he

0:46:38went on this fast and a and then started

0:46:42taking these cleansing herbs and out of

0:46:45his body the way he described it was

0:46:48that our intestines and our inner

0:46:50workings are caked with hardened fecal

0:46:55matter which constricts our constricts

0:47:00our pipes until all of our pool is just

0:47:03going through this tiny little aperture

0:47:04because all of this hardened a black

0:47:08bile poo is still in us is like it's a

0:47:12little spackle that fills up every

0:47:13imagination of you got right

0:47:15Wow well said you read it anyway so so

0:47:20coffee is coffee enema guy

0:47:22this isn't coffee and my guy although I

0:47:24did date a girl who who had wheatgrass

0:47:26animals as part of a treatment starts

0:47:28like a bicycle energy when it comes out

0:47:29that she was she was in New York and she

0:47:32doing here candle i tried some of your

0:47:34candle but I felt like it was but

0:47:36there's nothing a q-tip case scam so i

0:47:38continued but in any case so he's

0:47:40talking the story about you know he's

0:47:42sitting in a bathtub and he's is

0:47:44extruding this hard and fecal matter

0:47:46that is like the bicycle inner tube

0:47:48accept pay them it up

0:47:50roofing tar made of like made of like

0:47:55like Carter Administration era beef it

0:47:58there

0:47:59yeah and I'm thinking to myself wow this

0:48:01is this seems extreme this is like if

0:48:04that's really any I'd like to get out

0:48:06and he goes on and on about like and

0:48:09then you know as the stuff comes

0:48:11cleaning off of the walls of your

0:48:12insides it's it's pink life is restored

0:48:16and all and now all you need to do is e1

0:48:19broccoli floret a day but it's vitamins

0:48:22are transmitted to you without you know

0:48:25like instantaneously and automatically

0:48:27become more efficient become more

0:48:29efficient and he was at and I was like

0:48:30this is incredible i'm really into this

0:48:32but then at the end of the last chapter

0:48:34of the book which i think most people

0:48:36don't get to he talks about the last day

0:48:39of his fast walking up and sitting

0:48:41indian-style on the top of a mountain or

0:48:43something and angels visit him and they

0:48:47tell him that he's a good man and they

0:48:50tell him how to juggle four beanbags

0:48:53tell me how you know like they tell him

0:48:59all these magical things and they tell

0:49:00him that they could only visit him now

0:49:02because his is colon is pink and that's

0:49:06that's why

0:49:07angels don't visit us all because we

0:49:09because they get their primary interface

0:49:11with us is our colon this book this book

0:49:17is just that much more horse shit i

0:49:19doubt any of this stuff happened to him

0:49:20he talked about be talking about getting

0:49:23a tapeworm out where he sat in a bathtub

0:49:25full of warm milk and that's at the cape

0:49:28or lights the milk better and some

0:49:30clothes online its little head out of

0:49:33your butt to drink the bathtub milk

0:49:35and then once he's wants his head comes

0:49:37out you wait you don't jump on him right

0:49:39away

0:49:40you got a real gentle-like don't you

0:49:41know jump on facility will spook him but

0:49:43once he gets comfortable and it kind of

0:49:45sticks little bit more relaxed all that

0:49:47warm milk like I was like oh this milk

0:49:49is amazing sleepy little worm and you

0:49:51grabbed his head and you wrap it around

0:49:53a pencil and Men you're twisting the

0:49:58pencil because the tapeworm is 45 feet

0:50:01long and you have to keep this and you

0:50:05have to keep this pencil with the first

0:50:08foot and a half of a tapeworm not

0:50:10wrapped around it you have to keep it

0:50:11hanging out of your butt or however long

0:50:15for whatever though for the week that it

0:50:17takes for you to gradually whisk the

0:50:20paper mouth you keep crudite near the

0:50:23top to nourish yourself i guess you said

0:50:26in there and you burn that you're

0:50:27complaining John you gotta clean and

0:50:29clear your calendar

0:50:30well either that or if you have stuff to

0:50:33do if you have to go to work or whatever

0:50:34you get out of the tub and you put on

0:50:35those like magic hammer pants haha he

0:50:42could work

0:50:43you sit on one of those chairs with the

0:50:45ceiling charity but never touches the

0:50:47thing and the milk go bad

0:50:50well I think you drink the milk you you

0:50:53may be filled up with smoke a few times

0:50:55but you're like oh what a day at work I

0:50:58gotta get home to my milk bath and twist

0:51:00the blue you know another foot and half

0:51:02of this taken home persuade my tape or

0:51:03so I so I got to that point and and I

0:51:07suddenly guys I found myself sitting on

0:51:09a stool in a in a vegan restaurant

0:51:11reading a book about a guy who had fled

0:51:15like discharge 40 pounds of a but tar

0:51:20and the comment could talk to angels and

0:51:23I was like you know what this whole

0:51:24thing is a scam I'm going across the

0:51:25street to get a bacon burger it's a

0:51:27cautionary tale

0:51:28yeah I mean I I can see the appeal of

0:51:30that and i gotta say first of all every

0:51:32time i hear those stories and and I did

0:51:34have a friend and ex that worked at one

0:51:36of those really loopy far-out health

0:51:38food stores what you're saying that he

0:51:40was in the band X could be could be was

0:51:42named DJ bonebrake is that his name but

0:51:45um but she worked at a place where

0:51:48people were very into coffee enemas

0:51:49they would run off these things for you

0:51:50and you know and the people photograph

0:51:52the thing is do you get deep into this

0:51:53stuff you get even to start

0:51:54photographing it and become something

0:51:56almost like hustler are people showing

0:51:57each other their bicycle inner tubes but

0:51:59see i see you in all of this i see a

0:52:01cautionary tale

0:52:02I mean at this point so I'm thinking of

0:52:05like remember the ads there was a shell

0:52:07ubiquitous shell gas station ads were

0:52:10kids and had the booklets you could get

0:52:11about how to drive safer and stuff but

0:52:13they always were like showing well they

0:52:15may also give you cars gonna give you a

0:52:17little of a little um didn't give your

0:52:19cars that one of those gas stations in

0:52:21the seventies would give you a little

0:52:22haha matchbox something funny like a BP

0:52:25kind of thing I don't think we're always

0:52:27find out let's find out

0:52:28but you see those animations like the

0:52:30Pistons going in and out in this basic

0:52:32animation and they show you how if you

0:52:34didn't use techron in your gas like you

0:52:36get all gummed up i think we have you

0:52:37ever seen the movie emmanuelle i guess

0:52:40i've seen several Emmanuel Emmanuel

0:52:41Emmanuel goes to South Africa you know

0:52:44that's how it was at the during part

0:52:46time I was a little bit later but during

0:52:48apartheid yeah that amanda was black

0:52:50emmanuelle is what it was was always

0:52:52block emmanuelle yeah but he's always

0:52:53manuelle like soweto it's the it's soft

0:52:56core pornography so you so there's

0:52:58there's more much more plot than you

0:53:00want maybe her course often i have

0:53:02Showtime buddy and much more much more

0:53:04plot that you want and not as much sex

0:53:06as you can tell it's kind it's kind of

0:53:07like it's almost like a traveling in

0:53:09English travel documentary that happens

0:53:12to have boobs in it right that happens

0:53:13at boobs but in every tear every

0:53:15instance when they would start to have

0:53:16sex there be all the heavy petting and

0:53:19the kissing the boob kissing which is

0:53:21what happens in sex

0:53:22yes and then they then the the man would

0:53:26mount the the female in the movie

0:53:30particular Emmanuel and they would

0:53:31always cut at that point to either a

0:53:35video demonstration of how internal

0:53:38combustion engine works or a scene of a

0:53:41steam locomotive you know power across

0:53:45the the verdant a belt or one rocket

0:53:50tests and excellent rocket X and and and

0:53:52then that the filmmakers never seem to

0:53:57understand never seem to acknowledge

0:53:58that that that this was hilariously

0:54:00funny like it always because they would

0:54:02back to them kind of having serious

0:54:04you're not making a joke about like a

0:54:05cartoon thing that this was a loser

0:54:08think you got some off-brand emmanuelle

0:54:10but that's not what I remember I don't

0:54:13remember any texture on my fingers later

0:54:15I think these are the later Emmanuel's

0:54:16the early manuals with those more pure

0:54:18yeah it's just they just closed Sudan

0:54:21the boob kissing brother i love that the

0:54:23kissing but the later ones had bad steam

0:54:26locomotives and some some some techron

0:54:28demonstration I think the technology

0:54:30demonstration now in this instance I

0:54:31think that becomes part of our mental

0:54:32model for how it works inside we know

0:54:34it's very confusing we know the poop

0:54:36comes out so it must be all bad news in

0:54:37there i'm not saying it's bad to get rid

0:54:39of that but like you know the holders i

0:54:41was reading one you know you do lemon

0:54:43juice and salt and there's just

0:54:44something about that you know it's even

0:54:46before you get to that last chapter

0:54:48you know it it's a slow soak in a warm

0:54:50milk a bath to get you to that point in

0:54:52the book and then you get to the end and

0:54:54at this point I'm just I'm thinking that

0:54:56ancient shits all that's keeping the

0:54:57Angels off my Mountain at this point

0:54:58like I want that in there

0:55:00I want that impacted you know I i really

0:55:02want to limit the number of angels

0:55:03unknown regardless of how I'm sitting

0:55:05well this is the thing because you get

0:55:07your up on your mountain here come the

0:55:09angels and you're like okay I still have

0:55:12enough presence of mind to know that

0:55:14this is unusual and you know I spent my

0:55:18whole life trying to stay within the

0:55:20within the bounds right

0:55:23like here's the bell curve and I'd I

0:55:26don't want to be one of you too far to

0:55:28the right on the angel felker I don't

0:55:29want to be on the flange in either

0:55:31direction on the angel bell curve and so

0:55:34if scraping the poop out of my insides

0:55:37puts me all the way out on the on the

0:55:39the far end of this I think maybe i want

0:55:42that i want the boot back

0:55:43yeah 11-8 it you know what I mean right

0:55:48part of me I mean how do i how much you

0:55:50know like whether or not I'll be

0:55:52surviving off that poop with the pockets

0:55:54it's all in there you know there's also

0:55:56the I this guy said this gets it like a

0:55:58crayon came out of him a crayon 38 when

0:56:01he was six years old

0:56:02is that how he'd haha

0:56:04you're telling me that crowns but in

0:56:07their 40 years

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