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Ep. 17: "Antisocially Promoted"

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0:00:00hello John how are you hi Merlin a la

0:00:10lune man i gotta work on something

0:00:16better

0:00:16what do you recommend what do you think

0:00:17what would you how would you like your

0:00:18name son it's not really as my name

0:00:22isn't as single as your name like that

0:00:24man is like like asking for christmas

0:00:26present right i should come up with

0:00:27something

0:00:28well i don't know i mean that people

0:00:31have tried to give me theme music I've

0:00:35always felt like the best theme music I

0:00:38ever had a butter was on tour one time

0:00:40and butter one of those little 99-cent

0:00:42keyboards in a thrift store and it had

0:00:46it had like 10 presets on it

0:00:50preset buttons like that play little

0:00:53themes and one of them just said

0:00:55oriental top equation congratulations

0:00:59John that's a new record it would be 54

0:01:02seconds to ping phone when you press the

0:01:05button is the keyboard a little a bit

0:01:06keyboard just went did and so I carried

0:01:12that keyboard around on tour her like

0:01:15three weeks and every time like before I

0:01:17would enter a room I would just put the

0:01:18whole keyboard through the door and push

0:01:20the button did it tonight after like a

0:01:25month of that how much feed her that

0:01:27horrible will sit down let's straighten

0:01:28someone's heart it was so great because

0:01:30it was one of those jokes that that

0:01:32stopped being funny and then got really

0:01:35funny and then got really funny and i

0:01:38love this i just wish i had a half but

0:01:40like like that music everywhere i go i

0:01:43used to one of that's like that today

0:01:45they called a soundboard we go to a page

0:01:47and you can make Arnold Schwarzenegger

0:01:48noises of the big lebowski always were a

0:01:50vest you know that by the plate sad

0:01:52trombone or uh oh yeah yeah yeah exactly

0:01:57something like that are bong ironing

0:01:59like I want I don't want I you gotta be

0:02:02honest with you I don't think of myself

0:02:04as a distant dishonest person I don't

0:02:06have an entire affected like fake

0:02:09audience but i would like the

0:02:10opportunity to punctuate my own not that

0:02:12funny jokes with the south

0:02:13effect ah uu there's a part of you that

0:02:17wants to be a morning DJ it's a very

0:02:20very small part that the probably

0:02:22dropped a lot you hear great morning DJ

0:02:24though I could be a morning DJ it's i

0:02:28don't mind getting up early i don't like

0:02:30driving fingers you could have been a

0:02:33morning DJ I got it I could have been a

0:02:35lot of things John our age group we

0:02:38really have to transition from talking

0:02:39about things that we want to do or could

0:02:41do start talking about things that we

0:02:44could have done that big transition I

0:02:47could've been in the Special Forces yes

0:02:49i am now no longer eligible for the

0:02:52Special Forces I should have listened to

0:02:54my bowling coach because he told me

0:02:55something that sticks with me to this

0:02:57day

0:02:57go ahead ask a question with a question

0:02:59at this point you probably coach John

0:03:02you can't have a bowling team without a

0:03:03coach up not only I'd like to get back

0:03:05let me strike that it wasn't it was not

0:03:08a bowling team was a bowling club right

0:03:10ok so he was a booster club leader

0:03:12bowling i was employed club not a lot of

0:03:14laser that's good way to put it i mean

0:03:17yeah i think you regard himself as a

0:03:18coach you have one of those little those

0:03:19creepy little MIT where when you're

0:03:22serious bowler you know you know this

0:03:24creepy little things that like bowler

0:03:26guys we're not know you're not about a

0:03:28glove

0:03:28it's a kind of club but it's a really it

0:03:32looks like a swimming glove-like hit the

0:03:34web its web

0:03:35I just I've never seen somebody wearing

0:03:38one of those who didn't look a little

0:03:39bit like a discount supervillain when

0:03:41i'm at what I'm wondering is does that

0:03:43give you an unfair advantage in the in

0:03:46bowling the only higher fare advantage

0:03:48is what mr. trapani taught me which is

0:03:50starting when you're young he would say

0:03:52he was also graphics is also the

0:03:54graphics teacher the graphic ret AP

0:03:57history so that doesn't look like Jabba

0:04:00the Hutt mr. Dallison what up boy you

0:04:04wouldn't like you know I'm gonna make a

0:04:06note card about AP History I'm gonna

0:04:08make an original arcade derek

0:04:11congratulations John up saying what

0:04:1216-17 history

0:04:15let's come back to mr. Ellison what I

0:04:16contain this quickly and we shoulda said

0:04:18what was his advice mr. data center mr.

0:04:20at your panty mr. trepanning mr. trapani

0:04:23rights on two cars just don't forget

0:04:25don't listen

0:04:26his wife was the the Dean of girls so it

0:04:29seems like some kind of racket to me mr.

0:04:33japani us eighth grade when I really

0:04:35like graphic arts you know where you're

0:04:36like learn to use a compass and

0:04:38protractor and make with the

0:04:40orthographic orthogonal what are they

0:04:42called the 3d looking drawings you know

0:04:43the cube the mysterious 3d cube so yeah

0:04:46perspective and perspective

0:04:48well in a sense the capital p you

0:04:49learned a kind of respect i learned a

0:04:51kind of perspective kind of perspective

0:04:53you can get in pasco county in 1980 and

0:04:55mr. training said he would say ruefully

0:04:58ruefully he would say I think from the

0:05:00tri-state area

0:05:01I'm guessing he wasn't really he said it

0:05:03with roo with that kind of love you make

0:05:04a lot of room and he said he said

0:05:07ruefully he said any shaky-shaky was

0:05:09roomful rueful yeah like room yeah and

0:05:12he shake it shake his bearded head and

0:05:14he'd say guys i really wish i had

0:05:17started doing this when I was 14 he says

0:05:19because bowling is one of those games

0:05:21where if you started if you guys took

0:05:24this seriously he was super nice

0:05:26he said if you stick with this and you

0:05:28do this a couple three times a week you

0:05:29could go to the show you could go to the

0:05:31show you go all the way to the top play

0:05:33with the big boys wherein the wearing

0:05:34the metal cleats homeland and he said in

0:05:37he said look that's the thing now you

0:05:38know I i inferred inregister active

0:05:42everything that's true of tap dance

0:05:43that's not true that's not you I mean

0:05:44that's the dental professional secret

0:05:46she started young when she started on

0:05:48all that exciting tsui you I don't think

0:05:51that's true football I think you have to

0:05:53be a pirate case I think you got to be a

0:05:55little bit

0:05:55oh no I mean you certainly have to be

0:05:57big but but that's self-selected to be

0:06:00gay

0:06:01not really i don't think i don't think

0:06:03that's a prerequisite

0:06:04ok let's get me they can perfectly dog

0:06:06fighting who

0:06:08good point um no I think I mean some of

0:06:10that stuff is self-selecting calling

0:06:12that Gulf of a coffee try really hard

0:06:14coffee get good i bet you do get good

0:06:16yeah that's a lot of I mean there are a

0:06:18lot of things that you can't get good at

0:06:19no matter how hard you try if you're um

0:06:22motard who right i mean that's that's

0:06:27good but I don't think I wish we had

0:06:29that word

0:06:29there's two words you and i love that we

0:06:31just can't use

0:06:32a two there's two very special words

0:06:35that most artists is his offensive it

0:06:38isn't any cricket John that's like you

0:06:40know what you really want to say if you

0:06:42have if you have parties like calling

0:06:43somebody a maggot

0:06:45tap quick little maggot quit acting like

0:06:48a magnet for a mag are such it's just

0:06:51such a fag butts so Maggie you could say

0:06:53you could say flame tarde you could say

0:06:56you could well you can't say float art

0:06:58because that's a girl I know but you can

0:07:01put tired at the end of anything and

0:07:03it's it's automatically offensive is

0:07:05horribly offensive anymore into the

0:07:06harmful that's the only ppl just like

0:07:13two winners in Canada you should have a

0:07:15medical procedure more often this is the

0:07:16John this is the John you know I think

0:07:20if you keep it fresh

0:07:21I'll do all the clown tardy dicked hard

0:07:23ground hard on the fucktard you don't

0:07:25look at me a clown tarde

0:07:26look II know that from you as fuck

0:07:29staying I never and I was a kid I've

0:07:31never heard that before

0:07:32well fuck spain i mean is there a lower

0:07:34thing tantrum a stain

0:07:38yes and forum that's right Santorum fans

0:07:41have a channel when I do not want to

0:07:43talk about tea party you don't want to

0:07:44talk about politics and mr. sharp and

0:07:46mr. Schmidt was rueful he was good man

0:07:48he was what you don't want to get a

0:07:50giant jar Drew he had ruined i don't use

0:07:52the first bedroom yeah yeah Louisiana

0:07:55sauce it's got flour in it or through

0:07:58this a little of that Louisiana sauce

0:08:02that leaves your friends manuscript

0:08:04names on it easy and resolved through

0:08:07the baby kangaroo and winnie the pooh

0:08:08all through short for roofie a rifle all

0:08:13but they ready you're having a stroke

0:08:16alright here's a link to the first 1i

0:08:19have today mr. miss her panty was

0:08:22supervising Minister Mr detlefsen I was

0:08:24not in AP History I'm not you cannot be

0:08:27a nice teacher if your name is dead love

0:08:28some know in that awful it used to just

0:08:31you're born pretty you get a cold sore

0:08:33just saying that out yet listen deadlift

0:08:36shrimp seem like a nice guy

0:08:38deadlift shrimp that left shrimp

0:08:42he was a basketball player back in the

0:08:44old days

0:08:45back in Seattle had a basketball team

0:08:47well the Sonics that's right and wear

0:08:50this wear this all here we go again now

0:08:52wear this on it so don't tell me they're

0:08:53in Iowa know Oklahoma City Hall for the

0:08:55love of Christ that makes me angry John

0:08:57and I hate sports you know this about me

0:08:59i hate sports but I only thing I hate

0:09:01more than sports is people who like

0:09:03sports and people who can suffer the

0:09:06idea of a regional name going to a

0:09:07different fucking place is so goddamn

0:09:09woman semi and now they're called like

0:09:11the the Oklahoma City gold stars or the

0:09:14Oklahoma City like just like a sex thing

0:09:16there likes the sunshine rainbows now or

0:09:19something and get their name they have

0:09:21one of those expansion names I don't

0:09:22care about sports either now but all the

0:09:25new teams like the old teams have names

0:09:27that that I don't know maybe it's just

0:09:30because they're old Utah Jazz don't get

0:09:32me started on Utah Jazz Utah Jazz that's

0:09:34terrible it doesn't make a lick of sense

0:09:36what the what the hell is and what the

0:09:38hell is a like a Oklahoma City sunshine

0:09:42rainbow that's no name for a basketball

0:09:44team at the Panhandle state that that

0:09:47state does have a pan and it's one of

0:09:48the few states that she called the

0:09:50panhandlers the Oklahoma panhandlers you

0:09:52know Alaska has a panhandle to that we

0:09:54call the past she said really called me

0:09:55i want that little less a little Wang at

0:09:57the bottom right well there are two

0:09:58wings as the recent events and away

0:10:01ok is it is kind of the peninsula

0:10:02archipelago it's an archipelago the

0:10:08great when I go to a good luck just so i

0:10:09could say that sounds awesome

0:10:11now here's the thing about mr. Dallison

0:10:12I never had AP History I was inclined

0:10:14toward history

0:10:15yeah we're we're truly truly the the one

0:10:18point in disguise mention this before

0:10:20another program but the the teacher of

0:10:22the class who was a coach that was some

0:10:24it was no no this is mr. i don't know i

0:10:27think having a borrowed name

0:10:28oh ok but this guy my class this guy

0:10:30actually one day said that as part of

0:10:32this treaty the Indians would get the

0:10:34native americans we get that two-fifths

0:10:36of the land or forty percent whichever

0:10:37was more so that was a good class now my

0:10:40friends name had AP history which is

0:10:42advanced placement history that's right

0:10:44and mr. detlefsen was famous for two

0:10:47things

0:10:48well if it was just a hard class in

0:10:50general but at he has floundered 23 no

0:10:54no sorry it's just down back to Sam

0:10:55class a p.o this guy like Jabba the Hutt

0:10:58right is in the racket with his wife and

0:11:01he mr. Dennison superclass any I think

0:11:05he did to every semester 2 20 page

0:11:09papers you know i don't think i ever

0:11:11wrote one 20-page paper in high school

0:11:12that's not normal for high school get

0:11:14you ready for this your second 20-page

0:11:16paper this is i believe the day before

0:11:21like christmas break or whatever you

0:11:23know one thing also mr. Ellison demanded

0:11:26the AP History always be 4th 4th period

0:11:29right so that you could take his test

0:11:32through lunch

0:11:33yeah what a tough ass ok so you gonna

0:11:36happen but the second 20-page paper was

0:11:38I was ninety percent of your grade

0:11:40oh no no this is a giant giant party or

0:11:42great to get this December whatever 21st

0:11:45you go in there 22nd whatever you go in

0:11:47there is no schools always out by

0:11:49December 18 sorry i was already fly

0:11:51should check this day before christmas

0:11:53starts christmas break you go right

0:11:55there i tried a put your 20 page paper

0:11:58on my desk

0:11:59yes be you got your final or semi final

0:12:03though you have to take now

0:12:05yeah i'm gonna put it down in front of

0:12:07you but this is a real this is a real

0:12:09blue book you ready for this yeah

0:12:11discuss World War two

0:12:13that's the question how fucking great is

0:12:16mr. detlefsen discuss world war two

0:12:19exactly take as long as you want

0:12:22I I would have taken that test all the

0:12:24way through lunch i'm going to get

0:12:26through today you'd still be sitting

0:12:27there would be could be writing writing

0:12:30on your rear in World War two

0:12:33if you could get a degree in world war

0:12:342i would have I would have a PhD you did

0:12:37would be no cold war without warranty

0:12:38John and I have to tell you that with

0:12:41heavens i don't even know where to start

0:12:42with that state now at the time that was

0:12:44merely one of those like I don't know

0:12:48you know the kinds of stories you hear

0:12:49those stories again like the teachers

0:12:50with the paddles with the holes in them

0:12:51this is one of those things but this was

0:12:53real sure and will be history in the AP

0:12:56History at tracks the kind of teacher

0:12:58who justifies any manner of sadism by

0:13:02saying that they are preparing you for

0:13:04college I'm preparing you for this is

0:13:07what its gonna be like in college i'm

0:13:09preparing

0:13:09so it's the first time it's the first

0:13:12time in your school career if you can

0:13:13call it that somebody actually makes

0:13:15good on that bullshit promise that

0:13:17they're not going to treat you like a

0:13:18kid next year

0:13:19ya hear that you have their fucking

0:13:21preschool only time we get the 2nd grade

0:13:23they're not gonna treat you like a kid

0:13:24anymore you're going to use sharp crayon

0:13:26use cursive you know but of course then

0:13:28it's just a bunch of bullshit about

0:13:29standing in line I can't tell anybody I

0:13:31think I think discuss roll or two is

0:13:33maybe the greatest bluebook question of

0:13:35all time

0:13:36it's wonderful and separates the men

0:13:37from the boys the wheat from the chaff

0:13:39what you what I maybe you what I would

0:13:42not have known then that I know now is

0:13:44you just have to write for something

0:13:45really fucking awesome about an aspect

0:13:48of that right you don't have to go like

0:13:50and then this happened and then because

0:13:52you're sexy like you don't have to just

0:13:54spit out everything you know you have to

0:13:55write something coach it fits in the

0:13:56book like I do that now right

0:13:59well that's that's what's true about all

0:14:01essay questions I mean they're just

0:14:03looking for you to be you can you can

0:14:07you can you can show that you have a a

0:14:12canada language yet but de menezes madam

0:14:17tuba if you can show that you you have a

0:14:20deep knowledge of it of a topic by just

0:14:22kind of skating across the top of it if

0:14:24you if you write with confidence but

0:14:28that's the problem in high school you

0:14:29can't you can't count on you can't count

0:14:31on even ten percent of the kids being

0:14:33able to write imagine imagine like for

0:14:35example I don't you know this stuff at

0:14:37me but imagine a lead that was something

0:14:38like you know whatever with 20 million

0:14:40dead and that it happened he would

0:14:42imagine if you 1500 you see I'm already

0:14:45i'm already off to think that's it and

0:14:46go back to the train car like you got a

0:14:48book and now you say who wrote a guest

0:14:50with the Cold War beginning to get the

0:14:52two sides these great allies broken

0:14:54apart who would have guessed this all

0:14:55began back in this train car this all we

0:14:58get him on a summer day in 1939

0:15:04hehe that's not nothing was that was

0:15:09Versailles quick

0:15:10don't overthink it what the treaty of

0:15:11versailles know the place with the

0:15:13fucking mirror is John 3 verse i was

0:15:16nineteen nineteen nineteen community

0:15:19center Roosevelt Teddy Roosevelt

0:15:20president teddy roosevelt no was real

0:15:23Wilson Woodrow all of course he's on the

0:15:25money what money

0:15:27woodrow wilson on he's on a hundred

0:15:29thousand dollar bill haha up the Woodrow

0:15:33well that's why all the rappers are like

0:15:35yo give me the woodys give me the

0:15:38Wilsons hope it's all about the Wilson I

0:15:41hope I'm right about this

0:15:44yeah yep google it hundred thousand

0:15:46dollar bill Woodrow Wilson is on the

0:15:49hundred-thousand-dollar built like a

0:15:50light John they're not a lot in

0:15:51circulation

0:15:52well imagine feel how bad you would feel

0:15:55if you lost that if I lost that bet

0:15:58well no no I mean not you have already

0:16:00lost the bet but I'm saying if you happy

0:16:02dont know what it's been a good year

0:16:04I'm just gonna go get well see that

0:16:06those bills are four banks those bills

0:16:09are four banks only terrible and during

0:16:11the gold standard having a hundred

0:16:12thousand dollar bill Woodrow Wilson is

0:16:14on the hundred-thousand-dollar bill

0:16:16yeah that's pretty cool if you were to

0:16:20land on the three-dollar bill you why I

0:16:23oughta

0:16:23hey there they don't let those hundred

0:16:25thousand dollar bills out and this is

0:16:27the thing that's very front hold them up

0:16:29to the light in Europe they have 500

0:16:32euro bills that are in that are in wide

0:16:35circulation 200 euro bills 500 euro

0:16:38bills again it's like a grand 500 euros

0:16:43know it's like six hundred dollars that

0:16:46this is Europe your ear open yeah okay

0:16:49I'm but but there but we have five

0:16:51hundred dollar bills here but you can't

0:16:53you can't they won't give them to you

0:16:56letter concerning the 20 the 10 to 20

0:16:58because of the 80s McKinley President

0:17:00McKinley's a five-minute Bill now you

0:17:02got me thinking about this crazy about

0:17:04it

0:17:05who there's a website that i was on very

0:17:07recently that tells you how much your

0:17:11coinage is worth if you melt it down

0:17:14just for the melt weight of the metal in

0:17:16the coin

0:17:17I do not want to know that for pennies

0:17:19with me so angry

0:17:21it's pretty nuts for pennies it's costly

0:17:24doesn't cost like two cents to make a

0:17:25penny

0:17:26oh it's I think Penny's are worth more

0:17:28than to sense now

0:17:30nnw stealing copper pipes

0:17:33Jesus Christ what is wrong with this

0:17:35country John what you know what we need

0:17:37is that was still in copper pipe for a

0:17:39long time

0:17:40everybody's always trying to steal your

0:17:41comfort wipe the hard it's a copper pipe

0:17:43problem but no here that this this

0:17:46website i'm gonna do is i'm gonna plug a

0:17:48website it's called coin solution COI n

0:17:53Fla tion dot-com conflation and it will

0:17:57tell you the melt value of your coins

0:18:01yeah it's really really really really

0:18:05cool I don't say this often

0:18:07John but this is what are the resources

0:18:09at those fat cats in the government do

0:18:12not want you to know about that's

0:18:13exactly right so just like a 1964

0:18:16quarter 1964 quarter a is worth like

0:18:22well it's so worth like four dollars

0:18:27four dollars and and thirty cents in

0:18:31just in silver weight have you find one

0:18:35of those if you find in 1963 quarter in

0:18:37your pocket jam and you think like oh

0:18:38yeah that's probably worth something

0:18:40they're still using that pre-embargo

0:18:41silver at that time pre-embargo silver

0:18:45yeah what you want to get a van or

0:18:47something like that you know before the

0:18:48you know I you know Kennedy Kennedy

0:18:50stocked up on Havana cigars before the

0:18:53embargo you know that right

0:18:54oh and Margo silver mhm that's one way

0:18:57of putting it

0:18:58whoo voice is really amazing 95% copper

0:19:01look at that now you know Nicholas a

0:19:02carcinogen you know that right well if

0:19:04you smoke it

0:19:05boom how do you do it put in my nose

0:19:09yeah I said I use them as a suppository

0:19:11I stick a roll of nickels up there you

0:19:15can find a five-set suppository

0:19:16somewhere i don't think so

0:19:17well no not now that nickels worth a

0:19:20dollar fifty is a simple this is a

0:19:22fucking upside-down society you know mr.

0:19:24dad listen I would we should get in

0:19:25touch with him and find out what he

0:19:26thinks of this discuss melted coins

0:19:27don't talk about mr. Devlin some he

0:19:29sounds like a real

0:19:30part ass he was he was huge

0:19:34I got kicked out of AP History know this

0:19:39is when your mom was to confess anything

0:19:41special school you know this was a

0:19:42scandal to kick you tell me about it

0:19:45well so

0:19:48ap history right here you're supposed to

0:19:51get college credit if you if you get a

0:19:53good grade in AP History you can i'll

0:19:55give you credit for when you college

0:19:57really take that isn't that kinda like a

0:19:58like a like a traveler's checks if I

0:20:01think if you go to Princeton they

0:20:03probably don't care about your AP

0:20:04History exam but uh but maybe you know

0:20:08what the University of Alaska Anchorage

0:20:10maybe you can skip freshman history or

0:20:13something i think at the University

0:20:14self-weight clip out the first two years

0:20:16trying to call its automatic junior but

0:20:19in my case I i was in this history class

0:20:22and and I had long long since stopped

0:20:28paying attention in school and I i was

0:20:32taking a makeup exam out in the hall and

0:20:38I had my history book in the little the

0:20:42little rack that was attached to my that

0:20:45was bolted to my wheelchair desk combo

0:20:48thing and and at a certain point in the

0:20:53test i looked down and flip through the

0:20:55pages and try to look see if I could

0:20:58figure out when the war of 1812 was or

0:21:00whatever the hell question he was asking

0:21:02and he can heat the teacher was out in

0:21:05the hall and he came around the corner

0:21:06and saw me cheating they're cheating

0:21:09scandal and he gave me an F and was and

0:21:15he actually cried real tears like you

0:21:18were one of my favorite students and

0:21:20you're cheating and just I couldn't

0:21:22believe that you would do such a thing

0:21:23it's a betrayal of the hearts awful

0:21:26education and and betrayal of of you

0:21:30you're betraying yourself and all this

0:21:31terrible stuff it was just like a real

0:21:34burden of guilt and shame for my

0:21:37cheating scandal which was me looking

0:21:39for flipping through the table of

0:21:40contents of my history book alcohol it's

0:21:43not a waste

0:21:43eating though right it was cheating is

0:21:45cheating all right it was changed is

0:21:47that your calendar and I think history

0:21:48class but in any case am at the end of

0:21:52the senior year I've told you this story

0:21:53right

0:21:54I didn't have enough credits to graduate

0:21:55because i graduated last in my class in

0:21:59high school you graduated last in your

0:22:01class I was like absolutely last in my

0:22:04class I had the idea 1.2 cumulative GPA

0:22:08through four years of high school I i

0:22:11was i was out on the light nice grouping

0:22:14on the list of graduating seniors they

0:22:17were like 25 guys 25 people who had

0:22:20higher GPA than i did that were actually

0:22:21held back and not allowed to graduate

0:22:24couple that died

0:22:26there's a horse dick they called me in

0:22:28but the principal and the guidance

0:22:30counselors and the teachers were they

0:22:33they they called me down to the office

0:22:35and they were all there and they said

0:22:38look we talked about it and we don't

0:22:45want you to come back so here you'll see

0:22:50here in AP history that you you have an

0:22:53F but we're going to award you the

0:22:56credits and we're giving you some credit

0:23:00for your extracurricular activities

0:23:03kompong you know you don't anti social

0:23:06promotion that you'll see over here in

0:23:08column B that's saying and so

0:23:10congratulations good luck Godspeed to

0:23:17you got a diploma

0:23:18oh yeah and and and the thing was that

0:23:21the student the student body knew that I

0:23:23didn't have enough credits to graduate

0:23:24though the word leaked out in the month

0:23:26up coming up to graduation and so it was

0:23:31already a scandal it was you know buzz

0:23:35buzz buzz you know Rogers not going to

0:23:37graduate buzz and so right up until the

0:23:41day of graduation it was it was still

0:23:47that mean like it was still a a matter

0:23:50of contention some people are saying no

0:23:52of course he's going to graduate some

0:23:53people were there people are betting

0:23:55cases of beer back and forth

0:23:57and then and then I i walked at the

0:24:01ceremony and when they called my name it

0:24:04was like it was he heard in the hole

0:24:06because it's the graduations in the big

0:24:09auditorium you know you heard them like

0:24:1375 raspberries across the room like

0:24:16think they're like John Roderick just

0:24:20people all through the hall making

0:24:22raspberries and Leslie faculty parking

0:24:26their little air horns it was a it was

0:24:28it was kind of rude actually but that's

0:24:34how it played out and there's so much

0:24:37wrong with that on every level

0:24:38I just that is really sick yeah did they

0:24:41let you do that and that's the way

0:24:43that's the way that's how it goes

0:24:45is it stopped yeah exactly i'm gonna see

0:24:48being a real nuisance I've heard about

0:24:49some of your customer service problems

0:24:50in the past but even the faculty John

0:24:52and it wasn't like they said oh you're a

0:24:54good kid they give you a little Chuck on

0:24:56the shoulder and say good luck at

0:24:57Gonzaga or whatever like this is this is

0:24:59going to be that that'sthat's really

0:25:01that'sthat's a holocaust John they

0:25:02should never let you graduate that's

0:25:04ridiculous

0:25:04ya know there was there was nothing

0:25:06about it there was like oh you you nut

0:25:11it was very much like don't come back

0:25:14I I mean I completely understand and I

0:25:18think I mean I see my position was I

0:25:20wasn't that bad but I i see the other

0:25:23thing was at our graduation everybody

0:25:26went to graduation now how fucked up is

0:25:28this this is this is very lucky in a

0:25:30closet kind of thing you go to

0:25:32graduation you sit there they call your

0:25:34name you gotta go like even if you

0:25:35failed out you still have to walk know

0:25:38all that's cruel and if you didn't

0:25:41because you know that would strip the

0:25:43seating right so you can be brutal they

0:25:46hand you a case with a blank case

0:25:49there's no deployment and it looks like

0:25:50you got to play over there is no

0:25:51deployment no way but but you're but

0:25:53people know all your friends know maybe

0:25:55I did not know until I looked inside

0:25:58whether i would have a diploma

0:26:00wow I was I was right out i was right on

0:26:02the edge for all I know is a clerical

0:26:04error but like I said I felt two classes

0:26:06was a senior i was i should have

0:26:08graduated but it not somehow it happened

0:26:10i think i was taking like geometry and

0:26:1212th grade you know I it's a bit sad

0:26:17that's a busted-ass system you know I

0:26:19mr. debt listen now that that's a guy

0:26:22who could really turn things around you

0:26:23know San mm no I don't because I don't

0:26:27be honest detlefsen could turn around

0:26:28see what I i don't know i mean i don't

0:26:31have systems broken but ok so i'm not a

0:26:34conversation with a girl today on the

0:26:36phone

0:26:37wow they marked my calendar a business

0:26:39conversation in a business capacity NPR

0:26:42right and this girl got the Irish epr no

0:26:45no she's in you know she's some in some

0:26:48music business capacity let's just say I

0:26:50and halfway through the cover you know

0:26:53she works at an office where I have I

0:26:56have business dealings they're in town

0:26:59not in Seattle

0:27:01okay and I said that to a halfway

0:27:03through the conversation was like hey so

0:27:05have we met before and she said my don't

0:27:09know and I was like oh oh did I ruin

0:27:16your life

0:27:17that's weird um are you sure you don't

0:27:20know I would think that you working in

0:27:24an office that deals with musicians

0:27:25would know if you had met me but ok

0:27:28that's fine and so we talked a little

0:27:30bit more we got to the end the

0:27:32conversation I said well thank you very

0:27:33much for your help and she said yeah and

0:27:40then there was a long pause and I said

0:27:46okay then bye

0:27:49and she was like oh my and it felt like

0:27:57I was I felt like I

0:28:00was in I like I was in Teletubbies land

0:28:04and I'm a and this is a we're talking

0:28:07about real money this girl and I what

0:28:10we're having

0:28:11grabbing the this is like high-powered

0:28:14business convo it isn't about agreeing

0:28:18to do things about agreeing to do think

0:28:20that's serious stuff

0:28:22yeah I was giving her verbal

0:28:24authorization for 24 to make some money

0:28:28that's a strange way for someone on that

0:28:30call to talk yeah and she's talking to

0:28:33me like that to Teletubbies thing and

0:28:35you could tell from her voice that she

0:28:36was in her tool in her twenties but

0:28:38potentially in her early twenties and I

0:28:40imagine maybe that she was wearing some

0:28:42some skin tight jeans and maybe some big

0:28:46white sunglasses but even and end up

0:28:50like a Palestinian scarf but even so her

0:28:56phone her phone etiquette was so

0:28:59off-the-charts in the wrong direction

0:29:02bad but it made me think that the that

0:29:06it was ultimately the fault of the

0:29:08American schools who but more than that

0:29:11like further evidence of this thing that

0:29:14we're always talking about this that the

0:29:16end times that as represented by like

0:29:21like the the sweeping waves of fake

0:29:25autism that we call me call youth

0:29:30culture now

0:29:31yeah you get a resolution to this no I

0:29:34huh

0:29:34I wasn't even sure that we had hung up i

0:29:36SAT and stared at my phone for like 30

0:29:38seconds I was like is that we are we

0:29:42done

0:29:42I've had a lot of conversations with

0:29:44people that go like that in the last

0:29:46five years and even excluding the fact

0:29:48that i don't like talking on the phone

0:29:50and I talk too fast

0:29:51I i I've often say this to people i will

0:29:53actually sometimes say that people are

0:29:55you checking your email right now

0:29:56oh because I can I mean I know I talk a

0:29:59lot it can hear that he not be taught be

0:30:02listening em up

0:30:06[Music]

0:30:07uh i ah yeah um oh my ok I think I think

0:30:17that's awesome crazy know that right

0:30:19there ok so you like that huh did you

0:30:23hit with a sock full of pennies like

0:30:24what's going on little was that for a

0:30:27long time I carried on all phone

0:30:29conversations while playing a computer

0:30:33silent you see how much he says it keeps

0:30:35you in the right zone for a phone call

0:30:37yeah yeah but then I realized that no

0:30:39that's false i was too much of me was

0:30:41being used up I was not actually I was

0:30:45not actually in the phone conversation

0:30:47as much as I needed to be

0:30:49I cannot do it John i might as well be

0:30:51like driving on a highway and trying to

0:30:52chopped green peppers

0:30:53I cannot do it's so obvious and i'll

0:30:55actually stop and say things like and I

0:30:58should not try to do two things at once

0:31:04yeah I mean you know I I you know John I

0:31:07got on with you i think it could be the

0:31:09schools i think it every step of the way

0:31:10this is messed up i think you are both

0:31:12examples of white people who got to

0:31:13graduate from high school that should

0:31:14know i think that's ridiculous

0:31:16yeah i mean all of my teachers were

0:31:19really almost all really stupid some

0:31:21more awesome my drama teacher my drama

0:31:23teacher was amazing she was great

0:31:25on the one hand we did we clearly did

0:31:28not do what was asked of us who and so

0:31:32in that sense should not have been

0:31:33allowed to graduate from high school

0:31:34because we did not perform the tasks but

0:31:40on the other hand i personally I feel

0:31:44like I never should have even gone in

0:31:45the front doors of high school thing is

0:31:47to say they used to say that you know

0:31:49what separates us from the Soviets and

0:31:51say you know the Soviets they go in and

0:31:54buy whatever some great doesn't matter

0:31:55i'm sure they're making it up anyway

0:31:56they go in and they pluck you out of

0:31:58there and give you a test and not

0:32:00everybody gets this nice education

0:32:02you're getting when they're 14 you would

0:32:03be like learning how to work a lathe at

0:32:06this Brides and I don't know if that's

0:32:07true or not but i kinda wish i had that

0:32:09I don't need to shoot a dog into space

0:32:11without any contingency plan for the

0:32:13dogs ever coming back this is why we

0:32:15lost the Cold War was our fear shooting

0:32:17dogs then we lose the cool

0:32:20I you know you're the expert ya know why

0:32:22I'm talking with you i wish the Soviet

0:32:24system in a slightly more improved way I

0:32:26had been there to benefit me I think

0:32:27they should have looked for people who

0:32:28are riding ASEAN their folder you know

0:32:31and we're talking how to work out a

0:32:33lathe and we're a little heavy

0:32:35I think you're saying are you saying

0:32:36that you'd be happier right now like

0:32:38working a metal press somewhere I don't

0:32:40know what kind of work does he do

0:32:42here's the thing here's one of the got a

0:32:44lot of people don't like there's to hit

0:32:46about America

0:32:47okee do you know why they give people

0:32:50the s80 you know this

0:32:52SATs are according to keep the black man

0:32:55down right right i mean so hard for now

0:32:57and just go to absolute know the reason

0:33:00that they do it as i understand it is

0:33:02that of all of the like like I don't

0:33:07know like fucking chicken bones they

0:33:09come up with to the sky decide how you

0:33:10will be quote unquote successful in

0:33:12college and let's be honest it's not

0:33:13like you get out of secondary school and

0:33:14suddenly everybody's really smart like

0:33:16it's a whole big broken system and but

0:33:18supposedly SATs are the single best

0:33:20indicator of success in college I don't

0:33:22know if that is true that's what i was

0:33:23told at the time and that's what you

0:33:25have to take the s80 because they can

0:33:27look at stuff like your essay or they

0:33:28can stuff your grades in your community

0:33:30blonde again this is 25 years ago so i

0:33:32don't have to still the case but that

0:33:33was that was the thing but success in

0:33:36college is no indication of success in

0:33:39life

0:33:39yeah but if you don't go to college your

0:33:42life is going to be a lot harder so if

0:33:44you don't do that s80 well did you

0:33:46graduate from college

0:33:48yeah yeah you got a college diploma uh

0:33:50yeah how come it's not hanging

0:33:53prominently on the wall of your living

0:33:55room I was ready right here by my

0:33:57divinity degree and I yea well you have

0:34:00a degree in divinity

0:34:01well you know I actually hate that I was

0:34:03all made up I i do you have a diploma i

0:34:05am a mail-order Minister like everyone I

0:34:07know that sir but I have a friend who

0:34:10lives near the Universal Life Church

0:34:11there's an actual building

0:34:14yeah the guys pickup truck is full of

0:34:16pamphlets apparently anyhow just go down

0:34:18there i'm a universal life barely keeps

0:34:20a lot of money around the house stuff

0:34:21why I up

0:34:22well you know I never graduated from

0:34:23college hang on i thought i thought you

0:34:27had a master's degree i'm a college

0:34:28dropout huh yeah

0:34:32so you got you got you got socially yeah

0:34:35you gotta antisocial yun socially

0:34:38promoted out of high school and you

0:34:40didn't graduate from to colleges

0:34:42yeah right are you did not do a thesis i

0:34:47have more than enough credits to

0:34:48graduate probably easily i don't want

0:34:50your stupid diploma fuck you you know I

0:34:52just have never it's much more like yeah

0:34:55I haven't filled out the paperwork to

0:34:58graduate in London after looking to ask

0:35:01you anything about this John it just

0:35:04makes me feel like I still gotta hand in

0:35:06the game you're saying you didn't fill

0:35:07out a form and therefore after your

0:35:09family paid all that money for you to go

0:35:11to college you are not college graduate

0:35:13because you didn't go to the registrar

0:35:15one day

0:35:15well I'm is more complicated it's a

0:35:19little more complicated there's several

0:35:21days I didn't but the registrar but but

0:35:24never got much of that administrative

0:35:26bullshit there was that in college there

0:35:27was so much at least my school was so

0:35:30poor state school there was a lot but i

0:35:32had i had i lucked out and really lucked

0:35:36out they ask you to leave

0:35:38what are you gonna ask me to leave but

0:35:41my first day at the University of

0:35:42Washington to Gonzaga was on a quarter

0:35:45system

0:35:45I'm sorry comes and goes on a semester

0:35:47system and the u-dub was on a quarter

0:35:50system

0:35:51okay right so the credits don't don't

0:35:53all transfer it or if they don't they

0:35:55don't transfer straight across

0:35:57uh-huh and so that's just a tat a good

0:36:01slashed weird school that's not unusual

0:36:04at all my school would hardly give you

0:36:06any credit for anything because they're

0:36:07not even that we don't have that class

0:36:09here just work better than all those

0:36:10other really end up nowhere within this

0:36:12they were just like oh you gotta who

0:36:14from a what

0:36:15well maybe we'll give you a quarters

0:36:16worth of credit for that semester

0:36:18classes he knows again intellectual

0:36:20pawnshop

0:36:20absolutely so I show up at the guidance

0:36:23counselor's you know the big guidance

0:36:26counselor office where there's wait it's

0:36:28a waiting here it's like a it's like a

0:36:30bus station waiting area there's 60 kids

0:36:33waiting all who've taken a number and

0:36:36erotic their doors on either side

0:36:39they're probably 15 or 20 different

0:36:42guidance counselors and it's just like

0:36:44your number gets called

0:36:46and you go in the door of the next

0:36:49available guidance counselor who will in

0:36:52the next half-hour decide decide your

0:36:56fate in college and also your this is

0:36:58going to be your guidance counselor for

0:37:00the rest of your time here like this is

0:37:03a person you're going to see over and

0:37:04over again and i'm sitting in the lobby

0:37:07and I'm just like a god I'd it i hate I

0:37:09hate everything about this and and

0:37:12because of that whole business with

0:37:13Gonzaga where they were like what we

0:37:16won't include your permanent record with

0:37:18you you know if you go now we won't we

0:37:21won't send all the disciplinary files

0:37:23along with you I had no proof that they

0:37:25had not done the witness protection so

0:37:28I'm sitting in the lobby you know kind

0:37:29of like bouncing my feet back and forth

0:37:31just kind of like okay i hope this goes

0:37:33well and I get called into the office of

0:37:36this time cancer who is a a woman she's

0:37:41about four foot eleven she has a Dorothy

0:37:47Hamill haircut she probably weighs 96

0:37:51pounds and NPR Toback and she has an NPR

0:37:58tote bag and she's this darling little

0:38:01pixie of a lady who uh who was an

0:38:05attorney for many years and then

0:38:07transitioned into this role of the

0:38:10University of Washington guidance

0:38:12counseling I'm not sure why I never did

0:38:14figure out why and she brought me in and

0:38:18SAT me down in the chair and we started

0:38:20talking

0:38:21the conversation got very flirtatious

0:38:23and she came around the desk and sat

0:38:28down in the chair next to me and said

0:38:30let's see what we can do and she went

0:38:33through my gun sagar credits and she was

0:38:35like oh well we don't have this but we

0:38:39don't have this class here but here's

0:38:40what I'm going to do we'll just call it

0:38:41the next highest level class and we'll

0:38:45just say that you have credit for all of

0:38:46it

0:38:48and she took my two years at Gonzaga and

0:38:51she translated that into me being

0:38:55halfway through my junior year what with

0:38:58a major in Russian lit and a minor in

0:39:02art to double minor in like ancient

0:39:06greek and philosophy is going to check

0:39:10that and I was just like tell me more

0:39:14and then she asked me out on a date come

0:39:17on

0:39:18yeah this sounds like a pass forum it

0:39:20was incredible and we went out for like

0:39:25several months while you were

0:39:27matriculating I was 22

0:39:30she was 38 and she was she held my

0:39:35future in the palm of her hand literally

0:39:38and literally that wasn't all she held

0:39:42in the parliament who and she she would

0:39:46use that sometimes to get me to do

0:39:50things in the romance exhaling sexy pic

0:39:54this to she would remind me of the power

0:39:58that she had not over his future

0:40:00it was a total may September reverse

0:40:04sexual the the reverse of what you

0:40:09normally think of as the sexual dynamics

0:40:11power dynamics is she really had me not

0:40:15exactly under her thumb but if I step

0:40:17that allowed chi she applied sort of

0:40:21pressure and she was a tiny little pixie

0:40:22of a gal and but had no compunction

0:40:26about like giving me the giving me the

0:40:29business

0:40:30bring me the riot act what'd she say it

0:40:32overtly or was like wow you know

0:40:34three-ring binders can have papers fall

0:40:36out like well yeah exactly that type of

0:40:39thing and one time called my mom she

0:40:41couldn't get ahold of me

0:40:42oh that is so creepy called my mom was

0:40:44like this is John's guidance counselor

0:40:46I'm concerned about his well-being

0:40:49do you know his whereabouts that's

0:40:52insane

0:40:53my mom you know god bless her just smell

0:40:56the fish richest melt smelled something

0:40:58fishy right away she was like what

0:41:01whoo-hoo

0:41:01this why are you calling me here and

0:41:04really gave her like kind of scared her

0:41:06in the opposite direction like this is

0:41:08highly inappropriate that type of thing

0:41:10and she never did that again but uh but

0:41:13yeah eventually the relationship ended

0:41:15kind of disastrously but not before not

0:41:20before all those papers have been filed

0:41:22let's just say I waited until all the

0:41:24paperwork has been filed and was stamped

0:41:27and sent off to the to the great

0:41:30warehouse in the sky but uh but you know

0:41:33it was a fairly was an eye-opening

0:41:36relationship for me as it as a young man

0:41:38because you know you're not you don't

0:41:40usually get into those kinds of scrapes

0:41:43you think you're the only one

0:41:45well I certainly was her her cause she

0:41:51mad she might have people behind other

0:41:53doors that year

0:41:54well she devoted a lot of time to me i

0:41:56did there wouldn't have been a lot of

0:41:57extra time for free time for her to have

0:41:59other undergraduates but um you think

0:42:04she did a lot of mentoring over the

0:42:05years she she certainly she certainly

0:42:07mentored me and a you know Marilyn I

0:42:10have to say as a young man I had a

0:42:12tremendous charisma which he gave with

0:42:15that unlike now now I think you would do

0:42:20it can you categorize me as a as a

0:42:23grotesquerie but at the time i was

0:42:26sitting in an unflattering office

0:42:28lighting you can really pull it off at

0:42:29the time I you know I used to wear

0:42:31sweaters a jauntily draped across my

0:42:35shoulders who huh

0:42:38I you know I was one of those guys that

0:42:39were Levi's that had been dyed a

0:42:42different color so they were just

0:42:44regular Levi's they were had a purple

0:42:47tint to yourself you're selling past the

0:42:49clothes I don't know how she could that

0:42:51I had a lot going on but anyway that's

0:42:54another example that John I mean what a

0:42:55fucking travesty that's ridiculous

0:42:57it's it was it was another in a long

0:43:00line of incidents or another in a long

0:43:03line of of a of happenings where I

0:43:08walked away saying well the next guy the

0:43:12next guy in her office is probably going

0:43:14to get

0:43:15he's probably going to get his bed

0:43:18short-sheeted because she just gave away

0:43:21the farm to me and you know the next kid

0:43:24that comes in is like I've got these

0:43:25transfer credits from wazoo and she's

0:43:28just like nope sorry

0:43:30start over so I I have to imagine that

0:43:34it's just it's not precisely like a

0:43:35sales kind of position but what credits

0:43:38they take it certainly going to affect

0:43:40the school's bottom line on some level

0:43:42I'm going to make this mercantil but if

0:43:44you take a ton of credit for stuff

0:43:45you're not only other undercutting your

0:43:47selling short me in a almost the true

0:43:50sense of the word you're selling short

0:43:51your own academic credentials but you're

0:43:54also harming revenue like she basically

0:43:56you should have gotten shit you should

0:43:58wait for two more years of school like a

0:44:00man right that's great that's ridiculous

0:44:03yeah that ought yeah it's super

0:44:06frustrating

0:44:07well especially especially since i

0:44:10didn't i ended up still didn't graduate

0:44:13yeah you don't you should do you should

0:44:15you should look her up on facebook and

0:44:16maybe maybe she can move a couple things

0:44:18around while which you know probably

0:44:20purple i do should be 55 or so

0:44:22well let's see i was 22 then and I'm 42

0:44:27now so she would be 58 that's a nice

0:44:30that's a nice time to hear the phone

0:44:31ring when you're 58 sure remember me

0:44:36died Levi's hey remember me

0:44:39mhm i don't know i think we would I

0:44:40think that if I think about the way we

0:44:43left it I think we would pick right back

0:44:44up where we stand outside our window

0:44:46with a boombox up i'm sure she kept her

0:44:51figure

0:44:52yeah too bad you couldn't the the

0:44:55amazing thing is that those people wield

0:44:57so much power the registrar and I mean

0:44:59the capital R registar school the person

0:45:01who headed up that whole administrative

0:45:03department looks like the girls at the

0:45:04DMV that you know the song alcohol gets

0:45:08the other gals the gals of the DMV is

0:45:12actually the last time i went to the DMV

0:45:14yeah every single person I dealt with

0:45:16was a guy you sure absolutely positive

0:45:20food and make them do all the work

0:45:23there was there was there was a whole

0:45:26string of guys but then i was getting at

0:45:29that top-secret driver's license so what

0:45:34you're getting at

0:45:35no wait a minute was there more

0:45:37favoritism for you here I got a

0:45:38top-secret driver's license I didn't

0:45:40tell you about this driver's license and

0:45:42I got let's follow up on I'm gonna hear

0:45:44but tell me about that they got driver's

0:45:46license is now in washington state that

0:45:47function as like set as a like junior

0:45:53varsity passports so you can cross over

0:45:57land any over land border into America

0:45:59from Canada or Mexico plus any arrival

0:46:04in America from a ship if you're on

0:46:06board a ship this sounds so made up

0:46:10no no Andy state government is allowed

0:46:12to give you federal clearance

0:46:14yeah you can use this driver's license

0:46:16now the game is not that is not real if

0:46:19you arrive if you arrive either by land

0:46:22or by sea it sounds like something you'd

0:46:24buy on like a sheet of like like scored

0:46:26Avery sheets like a cheap business cards

0:46:28come up but just that sounds ridiculous

0:46:30it's a real thing and it's good that my

0:46:32the driver's license is embedded with

0:46:34all those biometric information and

0:46:37let's not forget setting but that's what

0:46:39he said and they make me carry it in a

0:46:41in a tin foil chief so that people can't

0:46:45scan it when I walked through public

0:46:48places

0:46:49also it's got a Darth Vader like this

0:46:50letter heart-rending are fit on it and

0:46:53they're like no you gotta carry in this

0:46:54to file tin foil wallet small wallet now

0:46:57catch I really sincerely hope this is

0:47:00true and washington state is I think the

0:47:02first state or the only state that has

0:47:04the special advanced driver's license

0:47:06and it was a real watershed moment for

0:47:08me as a citizen because for many years I

0:47:11didn't have any government ID at all and

0:47:14I i issued citizenship know you're born

0:47:19in the United States and then because I

0:47:21because I did not want to be complicit

0:47:22in all the and all the master nations of

0:47:27citizenship I don't shoot frustrating it

0:47:29makes what makes you frustrating is is

0:47:31not only that you get off easy on this

0:47:33stuff but you do it by a fucking

0:47:35avoiding paperwork like everybody hates

0:47:37paperwork but somehow you've managed to

0:47:39come up cobble together this little

0:47:40broken lifestyle of yours

0:47:42based on talking to ladies on the phone

0:47:43and getting favors from people with

0:47:45pixie cuts i have no idea this is

0:47:47everything you're describing is

0:47:48completely inscrutable you get a special

0:47:50license in attend sheath fucking

0:47:53Washington really like before you sing

0:47:55before Virginia gets that

0:47:57yeah you tell me Washington gets that

0:47:58yeah there's any state if there's any

0:48:00state just two states that you get that

0:48:02Maryland and Virginia that would make

0:48:04sense because I know what's that

0:48:06senators yeah we don't we don't let them

0:48:09have them but Washington is way ahead is

0:48:13because the number of crossings in

0:48:15canada and the boat stuff we have a lot

0:48:16of crossing so we have a lot of boats at

0:48:18crossings but also we're just were more

0:48:20forward thinkers here so I went and I

0:48:23got this thing but they make you they

0:48:25make you go through all this extra extra

0:48:28blue because it's a because it's this

0:48:31official document because you have

0:48:32screen screening and stuff they screen

0:48:34you yeah yeah that yeah yeah yeah just

0:48:38doesn't make any sense because i kept so

0:48:40I kept everything because I didn't have

0:48:42an ID for so many years I used to get I

0:48:45just get picked up by the cops and they

0:48:46would they'd find out i had no idea and

0:48:49half the time they just chase me just

0:48:51let me loose but in any case in any case

0:48:55so I'm something I'm gonna find out how

0:48:57much this is true it's gonna be so sad

0:49:00I've been this line and they're scanning

0:49:02my eyes and they're taking these

0:49:04three-dimensional photos and they're

0:49:05saying like all now we're going to be

0:49:07able to the machines in airports are

0:49:10gonna be able to identify you by your

0:49:12you know by your biometric ality and I

0:49:15was standing there thinking like kind of

0:49:17going through all this stuff that I used

0:49:19to think was all big brother

0:49:22One World new world order you know like

0:49:26alien Overlord george bush / nice

0:49:32chillin the Trilateral Commission

0:49:35internationalist kind of stuff stuff

0:49:38that you only believe if you're smoking

0:49:40a lot of pot for not sleeping and the

0:49:42orb oh and I and here i am voluntarily

0:49:46submitted to all this new world order

0:49:48type of the type of extra

0:49:52extra data gathering and I just didn't

0:49:56mind it at all I just shrugged it off

0:49:57and I said that's right i'm not some i'm

0:50:01not some you know the retreat in taxi

0:50:04driver i'm a i'm a superspy i'm not a

0:50:10super spot but there's just so much

0:50:14wrong with that

0:50:15I you know and I so so maybe the

0:50:18administrative first thing about

0:50:19everything we're describing it all

0:50:20involves some kind of intervention or

0:50:22ignorance or other stuff mostly

0:50:25intervention in ignorance on behalf of

0:50:26someone who's basically a bureaucrat

0:50:28think about all those things where you

0:50:30have no business being cleared for

0:50:32anything that doesn't make a lick of

0:50:33sense

0:50:34I don't know how you got a loan that

0:50:35doesn't make any sense I just an evening

0:50:36of sitting around with you would tell

0:50:38somebody that you are not qualified to

0:50:40to have the keys to anything that's the

0:50:42terrible i dunno my credit scores it's

0:50:44like 840 is that good I think so

0:50:47ok but it's weird I mean it's so we have

0:50:51the registrar school there's a librarian

0:50:53the librarian was also the person a new

0:50:54college was the person who also

0:50:56inspected your physical thesis to decide

0:51:00whether is it affected your physical

0:51:02thesis

0:51:04yes speculum worse worse because you had

0:51:08to turn into copies of your thesis right

0:51:10it could be there is the version that

0:51:12had been cleared by your committee and

0:51:14your sponsor after baccalaureate but

0:51:16you're done right good to go and make

0:51:18two copies of itself via Jenkins is out

0:51:20the injections remember her name

0:51:22oh I'll never fucking forget her name I

0:51:25never forget the name of any

0:51:26administrator who crosses me that all

0:51:27right here a few drunken of the Jenkins

0:51:30bigley and and so-and-so since she would

0:51:33inspect it every single graduate that

0:51:36wasn't me there's like I think slick

0:51:38some like 60 people in my graduating

0:51:40class hundred people and different you

0:51:42mean she would sit there with a ruler to

0:51:45measure the margins because one of those

0:51:48copies was bound and and put in you know

0:51:50they keep a thesis on file looks like

0:51:52but I want to try to get at is the

0:51:54administrator bureaucrat that worked for

0:51:56the parent University of my 500-person

0:51:59school was in a position to decide who

0:52:01was going to graduate from the Florida

0:52:03honors college based on her little

0:52:05drugstore

0:52:06ruler so if you didn't do anything wrong

0:52:08do anything wrong if you were like an

0:52:10eighth of an inch or 16th of an inch

0:52:12over on this one-page letter printed a

0:52:14little bit that you get out of the

0:52:15drawer over and start over and start

0:52:16over

0:52:17now luckily now and I was just coming up

0:52:19in the age of the computer so this was

0:52:21most of us were I mean I brought my mac

0:52:23everybody did but I mean the five hours

0:52:26before was all typewritten on a selected

0:52:28well you know dr. Bates she said that if

0:52:31you had more than actually know the

0:52:34thesis guidelines were if you had more

0:52:36than three erasers or corrections on a

0:52:38page you had to retype it and so take

0:52:40the bait if you took databases class

0:52:42like three years before i had arrived

0:52:44there you would have she would make you

0:52:45redo the whole paper if she made a

0:52:47correction on it you have to turn it

0:52:48back in this is so in like the early

0:52:50eighties people had to retype 20 page

0:52:52papers

0:52:53rawr seriously that's about 25 page that

0:52:55runs into serious dough but it's just

0:52:57like he's all trying to say is this john

0:52:58whether it is your testicle this man at

0:53:01the DMV whether it is the idiot is scan

0:53:04your eyes and gave you the clear pass

0:53:05you know whether it is

0:53:07yeah the this whole like family so

0:53:10broken people who let you leave the

0:53:12building at all in high school and in

0:53:14these people who are who are letting you

0:53:16throw in the script these are all

0:53:17bureaucrats and administrators the

0:53:20person decides to pull out a line the

0:53:21TSA person bureaucrats bureaucrats all

0:53:23bureaucrats isn't it insane how much you

0:53:26got brakes

0:53:28well I still want a bureaucrat decided

0:53:30or however you could be thwarted you can

0:53:31be thwarted at any time by a bureaucrat

0:53:33interrupting your anti bureaucratic

0:53:35rains I hurt your anti bureaucratic and

0:53:37get some water if you if you ever travel

0:53:40to any of the former Eastern Bloc

0:53:43countries but particularly the ones in

0:53:47the sort of belarus ukraine bulgaria

0:53:52romania orbit you and and let's be

0:53:57honest idea when you will very very

0:54:00quickly and I an exempt Poland and the

0:54:03Czech Republic from typical this all

0:54:05those hope slovakia i think is in this

0:54:07category hungary not i don't have a

0:54:10single acquaintance male female or

0:54:12otherwise who like saying the name of

0:54:14Eastern Bloc countries the way that you

0:54:15do but in any case if it's a satellite

0:54:18country John's going to mention

0:54:19remaining I don't have any friends ever

0:54:22said the word romania except for you

0:54:24well remaining is a wonderful place let

0:54:27me highly recommended except for this

0:54:29one thing which is that the

0:54:31bureaucracies in those countries have

0:54:34completely broken down and when you when

0:54:37you travel to places like that and you

0:54:39see what it is like when people are

0:54:41living in a you know in a world without

0:54:43bureaucracies who you realize the

0:54:45bureaucracies are what separate us from

0:54:47the beasts that that in in these places

0:54:51where where a car either corruption is

0:54:54rampant who or where the system is

0:54:57broken down totally and it's just a sort

0:55:00of it he is years cultures go-go's

0:55:03Farrell he realized that oh my god the

0:55:07recourse to the law that bureaucracies

0:55:10allow us that we can avail ourselves of

0:55:14these multiple layers of even if you

0:55:17have to fill out a thousand forms just

0:55:19the fact that you'd that the form is

0:55:22there and that at a certain point you

0:55:25have some hope that someone will read

0:55:27the forum and feel obligated by their

0:55:29job to take the form seriously to

0:55:33consider your problem

0:55:36it is such a gift you will have to bribe

0:55:39bribe your alderman to go and find out

0:55:41which person probably lost it right or

0:55:43you don't have to bribe the you don't

0:55:44have to bribe the people to pick up your

0:55:46garbage you don't you mean there are

0:55:48places in the Eastern Bloc is full of

0:55:50this where you're walking down the

0:55:51street and you like everywhere isn't

0:55:52true in like a in the Central America

0:55:55and Mexico anything like some places it

0:55:57varies it varies but it's particularly

0:55:59it's particularly noticeable in these

0:56:01places because there used to be such a

0:56:03tremendous bureaucracy people relied on

0:56:06the bureaucracy for everything and then

0:56:08the bureaucracy went away and people

0:56:11don't have the self reliance or they

0:56:14don't have the they're not they don't

0:56:16have been they did there isn't a sense

0:56:19of like well if I sweep in front of my

0:56:21store and the guy next to me sweeps in

0:56:24front of his store then we have at least

0:56:27a clean sidewalk for the for the front

0:56:30of these two stores and that'll help

0:56:33business people will come our customers

0:56:36will come in the sidewalks will be swept

0:56:37you know the in these places where that

0:56:40mentality that the word bureaucracies

0:56:43took care of all of that for four

0:56:44decades and then went away

0:56:47there's just a sense of like the the

0:56:48future sense of futility pervades the

0:56:52whole culture so it's you get these

0:56:54people they're like well why should I

0:56:55sweep in front of my store

0:56:56what good will it do like when you start

0:56:59sweeping in front of your store maybe

0:57:00the guy next to you will sweep in front

0:57:01of his door and they they look at you

0:57:03like you're crazy and go well no if I

0:57:05sweep in front of my store that i'm a

0:57:07sucker now the guy next to me is just

0:57:09going to sweep his garbage over here you

0:57:11see you see missing manhole covers

0:57:13throughout that area and you know it in

0:57:16Central America or whatever you know a

0:57:18lot of a lot of the rural areas you know

0:57:21they don't have that they aren't built

0:57:24to the same sort of urban standard that

0:57:28you'll find in Kiev but we walk down the

0:57:31street and all the manhole covers are

0:57:33missing you like what happened this is

0:57:34incredibly dangerous like you can fall

0:57:37into one of these and and get hurt

0:57:39well yeah but the but the the the

0:57:42manhole cover itself was worth a certain

0:57:45amount of scrap metal and somebody just

0:57:49grabbed it and there wasn't anybody to

0:57:51replace it and so you just got open

0:57:54manhole covers all over the place like

0:57:57talk about really having to watch where

0:57:59you walk and it's because whoever's job

0:58:02it is up the up the line at the Ministry

0:58:04of missing manhole covers that person

0:58:07doesn't feel like there's no penalty

0:58:10when he doesn't go out and replace them

0:58:13because there's no form to fill out to

0:58:16say the manhole cover in front of my

0:58:18store is missing line and then the the

0:58:20guy it is theoretically if this exists

0:58:23if there's a bureau of manhole cover

0:58:25replacement comes out here budget comes

0:58:27out of his budget

0:58:28he's got a process the form that you

0:58:30know 332 stroke dear whatever and

0:58:33replacing Malcolm that's gonna come out

0:58:34his budget he might be selling those

0:58:36himself for the melt value absolutely so

0:58:39so uh it's not very much

0:58:43you don't spend very much time in places

0:58:44where the bureaucracy doesn't work

0:58:47to come back here and thank God for that

0:58:49stack of forms but more than the stack

0:58:51of forms thank God for the for the

0:58:54moment the many levels of administration

0:58:57that always are almost always end

0:59:02somewhere where there is accountability

0:59:03ultimately there's a person whose job

0:59:07really is at stake

0:59:09who will hold everyone else accountable

0:59:12so that the people don't just take your

0:59:14form and say that's nice and they like

0:59:17their cigar with it

0:59:18yeah now they're ultimately even if it's

0:59:23your Congressman yeah ultimately you can

0:59:26ready reach your Congressman John it's I

0:59:28mean it's yes it's that is certainly

0:59:30better i would just like to say that for

0:59:31somebody who didn't graduate from

0:59:32college you are an extremely articulate

0:59:34apologist for for bureaucracy but

0:59:36believe ticket to the congressman like

0:59:38you gotta be you gotta know if you you

0:59:40gotta be like John rather he got no Ted

0:59:42Stevens well I don't you just walked in

0:59:43there and go we want a new manhole cover

0:59:45you don't want you don't waltz into a

0:59:47congressman's office absolutely not you

0:59:48say I demand satisfaction brought in

0:59:51there but know what I mean if you are a

0:59:53dedicated letter-writer you can

0:59:55accomplish a lot in the world

0:59:57what what what people like us

0:59:57what what what people like us

1:00:00don't want to go to the to the Father

1:00:02who we are often we often feel for

1:00:05dinner frustrated and people that don't

1:00:07have the education to know or to be able

1:00:10to compose a letter or toward to know

1:00:13that that is possible they also are

1:00:16kinda disadvantage but this is over

1:00:18helps to be like your sister

1:00:20old people are like your sister is great

1:00:22customer service in the sense that they

1:00:24have nothing better to do and and done

1:00:26that she's like this necessarily but

1:00:28they will grind you down and they will

1:00:30they will follow up on the phone call

1:00:32they will stay on hold they can do their

1:00:34they could do watch their stories while

1:00:36they're on hold not to talk about the

1:00:37Tea Party is this is why they have been

1:00:40so tremendously successful they don't

1:00:42represent a majority of Americans but

1:00:44they are made up entirely of people that

1:00:46are willing to write 1,000 letters to

1:00:50their congressmen and their local

1:00:53alderman these are the people that are

1:00:54willing to learn Robert's Rules of Order

1:00:57and disrupt town meetings and ultimately

1:01:01the reason that they have power is that

1:01:04in America there is a process by which

1:01:06the elected office holders are

1:01:09accountable the bureaucrats are

1:01:11accountable the system actually for all

1:01:14of its for all of its waste is

1:01:17incredibly effective relative to like

1:01:23almost anywhere else in the so glad you

1:01:26don't know my phone number because you

1:01:27would be texting me i would just say you

1:01:30know what I'm done here because you're

1:01:31wrong i'm done here

1:01:32well you're not completely wrong but

1:01:34like so many things that's the problem

1:01:35is that you're at your most wrong

1:01:37there's so many things where you can

1:01:38truly help people i know what you think

1:01:40you taught me this might mean you taught

1:01:42me this it sounds like something you

1:01:43would say well what kind of thing you

1:01:45are well that are that when you go

1:01:48somewhere you learn a lot about what

1:01:52made the city beat built yeah right

1:01:55somewhere else i think you said this and

1:01:56other mountains are the water like oh

1:01:58it's because of the railroad that's why

1:01:59this town exists or like so now I've

1:02:01learned that anytime something is near

1:02:02water there's probably a pretty good

1:02:04chance that they decided to you know put

1:02:07the steaks down there because that would

1:02:09be a good place and where they stayed

1:02:10there was that would be a good place for

1:02:12trips to come into or something like

1:02:14that right is that none of that was

1:02:16probably you right that's and that is a

1:02:18theory that are not a theory that is a

1:02:19principle that I use all the time it's

1:02:23you know once you learn that about what

1:02:25you ve you take that it is blown my

1:02:27curiosity up and I have to be honest

1:02:28with you it is totally changed

1:02:30everything they never taught me and my

1:02:31stupid high school that one paragraph

1:02:33has made asking questions about things

1:02:35so much more interesting to me and what

1:02:37i recommend to people is that it if they

1:02:39if you start with your city and you look

1:02:42at your city in the context of of the

1:02:45geography and the way the city interacts

1:02:49with the with the whatever waterway it

1:02:51is that is the main waterway where the

1:02:54railroads come in where the you know

1:02:56where the natural resources and the well

1:02:59I mean in our communication services guy

1:03:01has a million this could be where they

1:03:02built the chips like what you know what

1:03:04I mean like where is not just that where

1:03:05the ship's came in but in our case you

1:03:07know when they blew all the Japanese

1:03:09people out of what was called in

1:03:10japantown they moved in all the

1:03:12african-american folks to work in the

1:03:14shipbuilding factories they just they

1:03:16just basically took stuff out of

1:03:17people's houses and move factory workers

1:03:19in there and they had a really nice

1:03:20lucrative lifestyle for a few years and

1:03:22then it became basically get out

1:03:24it's this is how you learn about a town

1:03:25it's the fuck you at one o'clock in the

1:03:28morning if you go if you go down to

1:03:31where they take the containers off the

1:03:32ship and put them on the trucks and you

1:03:34watch the trucks head out into the night

1:03:37you and you imagine what's on those

1:03:39containers and used you start to see the

1:03:43way that's San Francisco for instance

1:03:45the role in San Francisco plays in the

1:03:47in a life of the nation you know that

1:03:51that San Francisco is really an organ

1:03:54that is pumping pumping pumping

1:03:57out into the out into the rest of the

1:04:00country over and that at that you know

1:04:04that it's really a robust system but

1:04:07also very fragile system you know any

1:04:09one of those little aspects can fall

1:04:13apart and this is why when you listen to

1:04:15truck drivers complain about fuel costs

1:04:18you know you can you can strike is very

1:04:21boring truck right Boyle buddy peak oil

1:04:24truck drivers complaining about fuel

1:04:26costs

1:04:26those guys are right at the you know

1:04:29that look up by councillor in the peak

1:04:31oil I can't even look at me upset i

1:04:32don't want to look up counselor

1:04:33counselor counselor want to look up

1:04:36counselor customizable and no one's left

1:04:38on such a little over the top but I'm

1:04:39just saying it's if we have gotten close

1:04:41to getting most of the oil out there's

1:04:43not gonna be a walmart but listen I'm if

1:04:45you don't want to talk about tea party

1:04:46i'm not going to talk about people you

1:04:47understand that everything in that

1:04:49walmart is made out of plastic that is

1:04:52because of cheap oil it was brought

1:04:53there because of trucks that are running

1:04:55cheap oil but most importantly they came

1:04:57from China on a giant asked ship that

1:05:02was running cheap oil even before that

1:05:04even before that stupid try even leave

1:05:07China out of it i mean just just for

1:05:09practice chop a tree down and turn it

1:05:12into boards have moved the boards and

1:05:14build a house your you got there is a

1:05:17half a dozen different people in between

1:05:19the yeah but you get your price for the

1:05:21wood if you know what I mean I'm saying

1:05:22that if I work with Walmart will you bet

1:05:24you will

1:05:25and if you work with Walmart you know

1:05:27you can go read lots of liberal

1:05:28magazines about this your prices have to

1:05:30go down every year when you work with

1:05:31one more

1:05:32you can't afford to be there you let you

1:05:34know this mystery has been true for

1:05:36snapper it was true for Vlasic is true

1:05:38that Levi's snapper used to be the

1:05:40premium brand of lon Moore that you

1:05:42could buy they decided not to go to

1:05:44walmart because walmart makes you create

1:05:46an entire product line just for them so

1:05:48when Levi's went into walmart they

1:05:50couldn't repurpose any of their existing

1:05:52product lines they had to create new

1:05:54product lines just for you sign up

1:05:56alas no matter walmart oh no but here's

1:05:58the thing plastic glass expected 20

1:06:00years trying to like get you to

1:06:01understand that if you buy these premium

1:06:03pickles in the fucking refrigerator

1:06:04section it's worth paying more because

1:06:06it's really good

1:06:07you people use a very crisp it's got a

1:06:09fucking stork you now go to an end cap

1:06:11and you can get like a 5-gallon bucket

1:06:14of fucking pickles for 20 seconds

1:06:16let me tell you my experience I've only

1:06:17been in Shu loyal John cheap oil i went

1:06:21to a walmart in Florida one time

1:06:23me too it's a 24 hour walmart and that's

1:06:26three o'clock in the morning was full of

1:06:27family shopping kids

1:06:29yep a lot of lot of women with five kids

1:06:31that's when they get off work I I ran

1:06:33out of that walmart screaming but the

1:06:35second time I went to a warmonger was on

1:06:36my birthday was in like new mexico and

1:06:40I'm walking through the walking through

1:06:42the walmart I'm just taking it all in

1:06:44and there is a poster in there like I

1:06:52you know I admittedly it was in their

1:06:53kids section proposed four walls poster

1:06:57of tinkerbell the beloved disney

1:07:01character the disagreeable little minx

1:07:05tinkerbell in this poster of tinkerbell

1:07:10she's she's flying because she's a

1:07:13sprite but she's looking over her

1:07:16shoulder at you and she's got her little

1:07:19took us pointed at you and the way her

1:07:24little feathered skirt is arranged you

1:07:28can kind of it's like you're looking up

1:07:31the back of her skirt and her little

1:07:33pixie if it's very apps Kurt a little

1:07:36fairy upskirt shot God and I find that

1:07:39so hot that is so fucked up if you look

1:07:41at Tinker Bell's face you see that she's

1:07:46got a kind of you know she's blonde

1:07:48right because because why not

1:07:51but she's got a very long nose she's got

1:07:54a very she's very Judaic looking little

1:07:58pixie when you look at her closely

1:08:00she looks like a blonde friend drescher

1:08:03she's a she's a kind of jewy little

1:08:07pixie and she's got this big-ass that

1:08:10she's like pushing out if she's not

1:08:12Italian like northern Italian well I

1:08:15mean there's some wiggle room there

1:08:17northern plains but she's also got junk

1:08:18in the trunk she might she might get

1:08:20from the trunk

1:08:21I'm feeling though just get given like

1:08:23the proclivities of of the Hollywood

1:08:26animators of that era

1:08:28I'm thinking she's a Jewess I'm thinking

1:08:30she's an Ashkenazi in Europe little

1:08:33little little little flying bug and this

1:08:37post her

1:08:38is it like a dollar ninety-nine this

1:08:42fantastic piece of art and I was my

1:08:47birthday i bought it for myself and I

1:08:51carried it around on this tour I put on

1:08:54the dashboard man up and everybody in

1:08:57the band was like what's that I was like

1:08:59don't touch that don't look at I never

1:09:02told me that daddy's Judith's I never

1:09:04told my mother was I just drove around

1:09:06on the rest of the tour with this thing

1:09:08on the dashboard I got home and and i

1:09:11put it up on the wall and although all

1:09:15the women that come over to the house

1:09:16they're all are you looking at it just

1:09:20now what you're describing it but no no

1:09:22i haven't memorized haha

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