Roderick on the Line

Ep. 11: "Everybody Knew What Mr. Finnell Did"


00:00:05   hello hi John how are you I'm Merlin you [TS]

00:00:09   well I am well get you sound you sound [TS]

00:00:13   terrific did you make coffee or [TS]

00:00:14   something [TS]

00:00:15   wow thank you for saying that no I had a [TS]

00:00:19   kind of a tumultuous morning but it all [TS]

00:00:21   worked out who I i had an orthodontist [TS]

00:00:24   appointment the that I had I had already [TS]

00:00:27   rescheduled to different times one of [TS]

00:00:30   which time I arrived at the orthodontist [TS]

00:00:33   so late that they said they couldn't see [TS]

00:00:35   me and they had to reschedule and then i [TS]

00:00:38   had to reschedule it again and this [TS]

00:00:40   morning it's a disappointment at ten [TS]

00:00:42   o'clock in the morning and this morning [TS]

00:00:44   I set my alarm at nine [TS]

00:00:46   i woke up at nine and I lay in bed [TS]

00:00:49   playing solitaire on my phone until nine [TS]

00:00:54   fifty and anna and so then I I looked at [TS]

00:00:59   myself I was like I didn't actually look [TS]

00:01:00   at myself but I said to myself are you [TS]

00:01:03   are or what is the matter with you and I [TS]

00:01:05   jumped out of bed at nine fifteen I ran [TS]

00:01:07   downstairs and I got in the car and i'm [TS]

00:01:11   speeding across town you know it takes [TS]

00:01:13   it it takes 30 minutes to get to the [TS]

00:01:15   orthodontist [TS]

00:01:17   I'm weaving in and out of traffic [TS]

00:01:19   banging on the steering wheel you just [TS]

00:01:21   yelling at myself like what is the [TS]

00:01:23   matter with you and I called the [TS]

00:01:26   orthodontist was like can you please I'm [TS]

00:01:27   sorry I'm gonna be late to meet 30 [TS]

00:01:29   minutes late [TS]

00:01:30   can you please see me and they and they [TS]

00:01:33   were like I don't know [TS]

00:01:35   and so I'm driving across town and I'm [TS]

00:01:38   like I'm on the verge of putting my hand [TS]

00:01:41   through the through the windshield i'm [TS]

00:01:44   so mad 494 and I did this to myself for [TS]

00:01:48   no reason at all just like dread of [TS]

00:01:51   going to the orthodontist or something [TS]

00:01:53   i SAT and played solitaire on my phone [TS]

00:01:55   which is like clicking I mean it [TS]

00:02:00   seriously as I myself sitting it's like [TS]

00:02:03   a four year old man's teddy bear [TS]

00:02:05   yeah it's like sucking my thumb it's [TS]

00:02:07   like getting there sucking my thumb and [TS]

00:02:09   sucking your phone it's like sucking on [TS]

00:02:11   my phone [TS]

00:02:13   it's like wow you bed you know what [TS]

00:02:14   you're in the cards point are you in [TS]

00:02:16   traffic at this point you're not [TS]

00:02:17   punching the windshield but you're in [TS]

00:02:18   traffic [TS]

00:02:19   I'm weaving in and out of traffic I'm [TS]

00:02:20   unsafe at any of the slide while you [TS]

00:02:22   played up today I'm infuriating but the [TS]

00:02:25   other people on the road playing [TS]

00:02:26   solitaire talking on the phone tweeting [TS]

00:02:28   and driving but I find I make it to the [TS]

00:02:31   orthodontist they take care of [TS]

00:02:33   everything like they extend my [TS]

00:02:36   appointment and then I stop and have a [TS]

00:02:40   nice little sore leisurely rest of the [TS]

00:02:42   morning and i get home i make a pot of [TS]

00:02:43   coffee and i'm talking to Merlin and [TS]

00:02:45   everything is back in place right where [TS]

00:02:49   it should be in spite of all this [TS]

00:02:52   self-sabotage here i am right and [TS]

00:02:55   everything is right with the world so [TS]

00:02:57   inspired in spite of all of that it's [TS]

00:03:00   weird though you know it's hard to know [TS]

00:03:02   you know what they said Peter Schaffer [TS]

00:03:03   in that exquisite moments snap together [TS]

00:03:05   like magnets [TS]

00:03:06   you know that's not a good movie it's [TS]

00:03:07   pretty good potatoes looking work i get [TS]

00:03:10   north and south [TS]

00:03:10   I despite this is my daughter with her [TS]

00:03:12   trains she's not very bright but you [TS]

00:03:14   know who knows who knows why they [TS]

00:03:15   started great i don't know how you how [TS]

00:03:17   you up all that down i would like to [TS]

00:03:18   point out one thing that allowing nine [TS]

00:03:21   minutes to get there something he [TS]

00:03:24   discussed before I think I think I don't [TS]

00:03:26   want to take us off track but i think [TS]

00:03:28   one thing is you might want to slightly [TS]

00:03:29   recalibrate your what odometer barometer [TS]

00:03:32   this whatever whatever the broken meter [TS]

00:03:33   in your head is that says it only takes [TS]

00:03:35   nine minutes to get anywhere because i [TS]

00:03:36   think that the solitaire is a way of you [TS]

00:03:38   making it nine minutes to get somewhere [TS]

00:03:41   yeah we've talked about this before like [TS]

00:03:43   do you think it takes nine minutes to [TS]

00:03:44   get places including from San Francisco [TS]

00:03:46   to New York City it often takes longer [TS]

00:03:49   than nine minutes and and I and I swear [TS]

00:03:53   sometimes I i get places and I'm late [TS]

00:03:56   and the person at the other end of the [TS]

00:03:58   thing is like you're supposed to be here [TS]

00:04:00   half an hour ago and I'm like mad at [TS]

00:04:02   them for being so far away [TS]

00:04:06   there's so many reasons to be mad at [TS]

00:04:07   them you know whatever they're far away [TS]

00:04:09   why is your office so far across down [TS]

00:04:11   from me there far away there on time and [TS]

00:04:15   they noticed two three strikes you're [TS]

00:04:16   out three strengths but but but this was [TS]

00:04:19   that this is a special i mean this [TS]

00:04:21   wasn't a case of me like lollygagging [TS]

00:04:24   around the kitchen having an extra cup [TS]

00:04:26   cup of coffee trying to decide what [TS]

00:04:29   shoes to wear for half an hour [TS]

00:04:31   this was a case of me watching the clock [TS]

00:04:33   tick away as i did the dumbest thing [TS]

00:04:38   that a human can do I mean playing [TS]

00:04:40   solitaire on your phone [TS]

00:04:41   I mean is there a dumber thing even even [TS]

00:04:45   stacking rocks [TS]

00:04:46   tick tock tick tock tick is stacking [TS]

00:04:48   rocks in the garden you have a black [TS]

00:04:50   Queen black Queen red jack of rocks when [TS]

00:04:53   you're done right you can you can come [TS]

00:04:54   back an hour later be like see that [TS]

00:04:56   stack of rocks i made that but the but [TS]

00:04:58   the solitaire on the phone there it's [TS]

00:05:00   like you leave no passage it's like [TS]

00:05:02   walking across the rice paper over and [TS]

00:05:04   leaving no passage and then you are some [TS]

00:05:08   foo it that's it maybe is there so many [TS]

00:05:13   hands I don't know where to pick up this [TS]

00:05:14   luggage on this dick nigga three-by-five [TS]

00:05:16   cards [TS]

00:05:17   oh speaking of which I found some [TS]

00:05:19   three-by-five cards no kidding [TS]

00:05:21   yeah some old ones that i had lying [TS]

00:05:22   around so I'm I i put them in a in my [TS]

00:05:25   stationery file that's the file it [TS]

00:05:29   doesn't move [TS]

00:05:30   that's my file that never moves over the [TS]

00:05:32   principal is your pal the principal was [TS]

00:05:36   never my tell the principal called my [TS]

00:05:38   father that ruins and holy monastery was [TS]

00:05:40   an internal muscles and said i would [TS]

00:05:43   like I would like your permission to use [TS]

00:05:45   corporal punishment on your son and my [TS]

00:05:48   dad set and visit this guy i'm seeing [TS]

00:05:50   this guy's always students sitting in [TS]

00:05:53   this guy's arm and he has he has a [TS]

00:05:56   cricket bat it has offered like I'd like [TS]

00:05:59   permission to use corporal punishment on [TS]

00:06:01   your son I'm sweat is pouring down my [TS]

00:06:02   face I'm thinking to myself come on dad [TS]

00:06:04   come through for me come through for me [TS]

00:06:06   dad and I can hear my dad on the other [TS]

00:06:08   ahead beat the shit out of him did he [TS]

00:06:14   hit you with a cricket back a cricket [TS]

00:06:16   bat he bent me over his freaking desk [TS]

00:06:18   more than once and hit me with a cricket [TS]

00:06:20   bat John that is that is so so not about [TS]

00:06:23   trying to help you [TS]

00:06:25   this is old-school this is a public [TS]

00:06:27   school to this i'm not i wasn't in some [TS]

00:06:29   Catholic penitentiary i was in right i [TS]

00:06:32   was in public school was prayer was [TS]

00:06:34   prayer a lot of the time i think you [TS]

00:06:36   could probably pray at the time with the [TS]

00:06:37   transition period [TS]

00:06:39   yeah i was between beating the shit out [TS]

00:06:40   of kids and make them not have helped [TS]

00:06:41   will see you and I are this you and I [TS]

00:06:43   are [TS]

00:06:44   of an age where the public school [TS]

00:06:46   curriculum was designed to beat the [TS]

00:06:48   Russians into space we discussed this [TS]

00:06:50   I've said this before it's totally true [TS]

00:06:52   and it really would be you and they [TS]

00:06:54   would try and beat Jesus into you guys [TS]

00:06:56   don't think that's what they were doing [TS]

00:06:57   to the Russians and they're doing it [TS]

00:06:58   harder and that's why you're guaranteed [TS]

00:07:00   that the one was a hand yeah who is it [TS]

00:07:03   now whose hand was the second one to go [TS]

00:07:04   up and the first one the second one to [TS]

00:07:06   go ham the monkey is a chimp [TS]

00:07:09   yeah he went first grade Aaron went next [TS]

00:07:12   are you sure i think the second mammal [TS]

00:07:14   in space there's a Russian and then [TS]

00:07:16   there was that there's a chimp and her [TS]

00:07:18   did not end well [TS]

00:07:19   although the dog like a light go was the [TS]

00:07:21   first that was a camera know like the [TS]

00:07:24   dog like the dog was the first and they [TS]

00:07:26   electrocuted those animals to train them [TS]

00:07:27   to you know that well that's how they [TS]

00:07:30   treated us in America we're sitting [TS]

00:07:32   around we're walking around in America [TS]

00:07:33   afraid electrocute animals and that's [TS]

00:07:35   why we do not have we don't we never put [TS]

00:07:37   a monkey on the moon because we were so [TS]

00:07:39   afraid of electricity it might take a [TS]

00:07:40   couple more cricket back service to [TS]

00:07:42   really straighten things out [TS]

00:07:43   there's a lot of things are we're afraid [TS]

00:07:44   that are keeping us down and one of [TS]

00:07:47   those things is saying bad words to [TS]

00:07:49   people just like to say bad words to [TS]

00:07:52   people now and and john i'm going to [TS]

00:07:54   write them okay here's what i'm doing i [TS]

00:07:55   have one card this is bad and all caps [TS]

00:07:58   and other ones his words because it is [TS]

00:08:00   so important that we circle back to that [TS]

00:08:01   and that there's no way I'm letting you [TS]

00:08:03   go on the Cricut bad thing though so [TS]

00:08:05   because I think there's something to [TS]

00:08:06   this [TS]

00:08:07   let's get this guy this is the [TS]

00:08:08   significance new members names in there [TS]

00:08:10   something you know Frank kupil Frank [TS]

00:08:13   Cooper will be a frame for the cricket [TS]

00:08:14   back sadist [TS]

00:08:15   he wasn't even the principal the [TS]

00:08:17   principal was some ineffectual guy with [TS]

00:08:19   like a would like a little uh Trotsky [TS]

00:08:22   beard who never came out of his office [TS]

00:08:24   but Frank google google took this [TS]

00:08:26   cricket bat he drilled he drilled hole [TS]

00:08:30   it from behind there more [TS]

00:08:32   yeah we drilled holes in a cricket bat [TS]

00:08:34   and and this is an Alaska like who would [TS]

00:08:36   ever seen a connection sure this [TS]

00:08:37   happening sure this isn't as Oprah [TS]

00:08:39   memories [TS]

00:08:39   no I swear to you because I you always [TS]

00:08:41   hear about the teachers who had drill [TS]

00:08:43   holes to make it hurt more [TS]

00:08:44   oh no this was real he had a he had he [TS]

00:08:47   had a collection in his office a law of [TS]

00:08:49   coke cans from around the world that's [TS]

00:08:51   former students and sent him is what he [TS]

00:08:54   was doing he was it [TS]

00:08:55   music music nut he was pretty cool to [TS]

00:08:57   see the vice-principal like latino boys [TS]

00:08:59   or something like that it was the he was [TS]

00:09:00   the vice principal and another thing he [TS]

00:09:02   did he would walk around the lunchroom [TS]

00:09:04   with a tennis racket that he had duct [TS]

00:09:08   taped two one-pound weights to either [TS]

00:09:11   side of the tennis racket and he was [TS]

00:09:13   just he was just like lackadaisically [TS]

00:09:15   swing this tennis racket back and forth [TS]

00:09:17   just practicing his back and practicing [TS]

00:09:20   his forehead was walking around London [TS]

00:09:21   front of everybody [TS]

00:09:22   oh yeah yeah he's on duty is clocked in [TS]

00:09:24   yeah if he could if he could have been [TS]

00:09:26   doing that if he could have taken his [TS]

00:09:28   shirt off he would have done if he could [TS]

00:09:30   have walked around that luxury with his [TS]

00:09:31   shirt off he was equally as a fit guy he [TS]

00:09:35   was a fit guy he was a mean he's the [TS]

00:09:37   type of guy that walked around [TS]

00:09:38   practicing his tennis serve like [TS]

00:09:41   absent-minded professor duct tape duct [TS]

00:09:44   tape 2 1 pound weights one on either [TS]

00:09:46   side of the tennis racket [TS]

00:09:47   I don't think this guy's this guy's got [TS]

00:09:49   that corpse is under the under the [TS]

00:09:51   floorboards god you have no holy shit [TS]

00:09:54   job quick how are you eat you know [TS]

00:09:55   here's the thing you would come in your [TS]

00:09:56   office you bring a picture of your kids [TS]

00:09:58   you bring your international cokes and [TS]

00:09:59   you bring a fucking cricket back with [TS]

00:10:00   holes in it [TS]

00:10:01   nobody's asking any questions about that [TS]

00:10:02   sort of the creek bed probably frankly [TS]

00:10:05   to Frank tell me more about the holes in [TS]

00:10:07   your cricket bat and then he beat a [TS]

00:10:08   couple of kids and he was like this [TS]

00:10:09   isn't working and he took it home and he [TS]

00:10:11   drilled some holes in it and then I [TS]

00:10:13   always something he rated it [TS]

00:10:15   yeah Usher within a year or two [TS]

00:10:18   this was nineteen eighty nineteen [TS]

00:10:20   eighty-one 1982 maybe within a year of [TS]

00:10:24   that there was no way he could ever [TS]

00:10:26   gotten away with beating a kid with a [TS]

00:10:28   bat again right i mean that was 92 was [TS]

00:10:31   to possibly the last year this is last [TS]

00:10:35   days this icon you were his your his [TS]

00:10:37   helicopter pontoon I was the kid I was [TS]

00:10:39   the labs the guy on the stairs right and [TS]

00:10:42   the helicopter took off his ring down [TS]

00:10:44   easily and all those people still try [TS]

00:10:46   stairs right there was one there was a [TS]

00:10:48   last helicopter can't use baby and it [TS]

00:10:49   hits you with a fucking cricket bat that [TS]

00:10:51   was me that is so weird I man if I was [TS]

00:10:54   interviewing you know I think focus for [TS]

00:10:55   soldiers to get out of the way I think [TS]

00:10:57   if you're going to interview people who [TS]

00:10:58   are in a position to even consider [TS]

00:10:59   corporal punishment they should have to [TS]

00:11:01   bring with them the object that they [TS]

00:11:03   intend to use to hit children because we [TS]

00:11:06   should be actually because they say on [TS]

00:11:08   the table you should be able to talk [TS]

00:11:09   about that that should be a bubble up [TS]

00:11:11   box on the form to talk about that now I [TS]

00:11:13   there's any this is this is the item i'm [TS]

00:11:16   going to use this rubber hose right like [TS]

00:11:18   bring us in a big stick of crazy so we [TS]

00:11:20   can understand a little bit about where [TS]

00:11:21   you're going with this look how are you [TS]

00:11:22   going to solve these incredibly complex [TS]

00:11:24   problems of kids who aren't sure where [TS]

00:11:26   they are [TS]

00:11:26   what will you hit them with now when I [TS]

00:11:28   was in elementary school this was still [TS]

00:11:29   a huge thing i'm happy to say I have [TS]

00:11:31   never had the corporal punishment [TS]

00:11:34   happening as terrified that I'm really [TS]

00:11:35   gonna get kid i was there was you know I [TS]

00:11:37   was terrified kid [TS]

00:11:39   yeah i think at one point we [TS]

00:11:40   collaborated on an idea for a shirt for [TS]

00:11:42   me that was going to say in not too big [TS]

00:11:45   probably pretty small block letters [TS]

00:11:46   because of the nature of the shirt [TS]

00:11:47   driven by fear up one of the shirt we [TS]

00:11:49   worked on [TS]

00:11:50   yeah yeah yeah and uh and that's one of [TS]

00:11:53   my favorite police songs to i'll driven [TS]

00:11:55   but that's that is pretty good and then [TS]

00:11:56   you go into the turn down my VCR the I [TS]

00:11:59   got bad words bad as your mother bear is [TS]

00:12:02   gonna come back to Edwards um ok so [TS]

00:12:04   second grade mrs. rightly she had [TS]

00:12:06   recently come down she was probably [TS]

00:12:08   right about 4 bucks choosing the [TS]

00:12:11   emotions close to 400 pounds and she had [TS]

00:12:13   and this was before that was fashionable [TS]

00:12:15   it being a fatty [TS]

00:12:17   yeah this oh yeah 400 being a [TS]

00:12:19   400-pounder was a serious lifestyle [TS]

00:12:21   commitment I mean now you can be 400 [TS]

00:12:23   pounds and you and you have a lot of [TS]

00:12:25   peers [TS]

00:12:26   this is eddie eddie van halen was at the [TS]

00:12:27   time he was 10 years old and had a [TS]

00:12:29   sticker on his on his I'm a guitar that [TS]

00:12:31   says yes please fatties cannot possibly [TS]

00:12:35   having a big event the Buster until [TS]

00:12:36   nineteen eighty mrs. Bradley was very [TS]

00:12:38   large she looked like a cross between [TS]

00:12:40   like I think like I would say Oliver [TS]

00:12:42   Hardy and Iran and we talked a little [TS]

00:12:45   bit Dorothy Parker and that's a good way [TS]

00:12:47   that's a strange combination but I see [TS]

00:12:48   and I see where you're going and did she [TS]

00:12:50   warehouse dresses and my viral correctly [TS]

00:12:54   in 1970 be you know for whatever if you [TS]

00:12:57   weighed 400 pounds your number of [TS]

00:12:59   clothing choices was fairly limited it [TS]

00:13:01   was is mostly like how stresses me out [TS]

00:13:04   of curtains and what [TS]

00:13:05   if you get the camping section yeah yeah [TS]

00:13:07   she's big thick ankles and I assume and [TS]

00:13:10   she had a ping-pong paddle shipping big [TS]

00:13:13   ping-pong paddle that she was there was [TS]

00:13:14   kept in like a special place [TS]

00:13:16   it's the ritualism this two freaks me [TS]

00:13:17   out when you say big ping-pong paddle [TS]

00:13:19   you made bigger than a normal ping pong [TS]

00:13:21   paddle I have a slightly larger I could [TS]

00:13:22   have been my eyesight or like some kind [TS]

00:13:24   of I don't know there's there's like [TS]

00:13:26   regulations about how big your ping-pong [TS]

00:13:28   battle you mean now in table tennis play [TS]

00:13:30   like professional yeah yeah I don't [TS]

00:13:32   think they're I don't think anybody's [TS]

00:13:33   gonna it takes a lot of money to tool up [TS]

00:13:35   a ping-pong paddle factor you're seeing [TS]

00:13:37   how you're saying you're a second-grade [TS]

00:13:39   teacher since know how you're not going [TS]

00:13:40   to be hiring somebody in ICM career [TS]

00:13:42   Japan come up with a prototype ping-pong [TS]

00:13:44   battle using table tennis table time [TS]

00:13:46   sitting there working i think my phones [TS]

00:13:47   racists ping-pongs racist up ping pongs [TS]

00:13:52   races that's my sister Kim jong-un say [TS]

00:13:56   that no I'm saying that I don't think i [TS]

00:13:58   don't think there were bigger ping-pong [TS]

00:13:59   paddles I think they're always been the [TS]

00:14:00   same size and that you will change like [TS]

00:14:02   Pete like baseballs and now let's go [TS]

00:14:04   back to your friend let's go back to mr. [TS]

00:14:06   accomplished Frank couples are correct [TS]

00:14:07   to cool off of someone from home loan [TS]

00:14:09   got the recent / is you google not now [TS]

00:14:12   he has a large head or standard head [TS]

00:14:14   because you remember your pork around [TS]

00:14:16   that area started seeing the large head [TS]

00:14:17   tennis Erica think I think he had a [TS]

00:14:20   large red tennis racket I think that was [TS]

00:14:22   where all wait a minute no no that would [TS]

00:14:24   have been before the lord I don't think [TS]

00:14:25   night 1981-82 I think if this is the [TS]

00:14:28   kind of fellow that is going to [TS]

00:14:30   literally duct-tape weights on to a [TS]

00:14:32   tennis racket I don't think he's gonna [TS]

00:14:33   be playing with the latest technology [TS]

00:14:34   he's got a standard head standard had [TS]

00:14:36   cricket bat and a standard head is [TS]

00:14:38   really wasn't aware i i'm i'm i'm having [TS]

00:14:41   a cents memory now of it and i think it [TS]

00:14:44   was one of those transitional rackets [TS]

00:14:46   between the Smallwood old ones that we [TS]

00:14:48   learn to play Tennyson and the big [TS]

00:14:50   massive headed ones that came later I [TS]

00:14:53   think it was one of those aluminum ones [TS]

00:14:55   from the interim period that was kind of [TS]

00:14:56   halfway in between getting a content to [TS]

00:14:59   get comically large though they're [TS]

00:15:00   ridiculous now but remember when they [TS]

00:15:02   started talking about the sweet spot and [TS]

00:15:04   then this racket had a bigger sweet spot [TS]

00:15:06   and that sweet spot moved around and [TS]

00:15:08   this was I think from that era with that [TS]

00:15:10   when the concept of sweet spot was [TS]

00:15:12   brand-new for people's understanding [TS]

00:15:14   that so that's it was especially not [TS]

00:15:16   circa nineteen seventy-four this [TS]

00:15:18   was not a technology that was going into [TS]

00:15:19   corporal punishment devices like a table [TS]

00:15:21   tennis / ping-pong paddle there's not a [TS]

00:15:23   large head ping-pong paddle mrs. Riley [TS]

00:15:25   had probably i'm betting not i'm betting [TS]

00:15:27   if there was she didn't have access to [TS]

00:15:28   like the cosby talks about the belt you [TS]

00:15:30   know for Phaeton and Oksana and wouldn't [TS]

00:15:32   you know it like you imagined it being [TS]

00:15:34   worse than it actually was so i might be [TS]

00:15:36   i might be misremembering a large head [TS]

00:15:39   yeah yeah just seem big coming-out you [TS]

00:15:42   been anyway but she never hit you with [TS]

00:15:43   that you're saying she didn't she didn't [TS]

00:15:45   but but it was always there and it looms [TS]

00:15:47   large mr. fenell circle fifth-grade [TS]

00:15:49   african-american guy looks a lot like [TS]

00:15:51   gay [TS]

00:15:51   who's the little fishing guy down [TS]

00:15:53   Travolta was the other guy single [TS]

00:15:56   Jacksonville and he looks a lot like [TS]

00:15:58   samuel l jackson dressed as a seventies [TS]

00:16:00   guy and he had several Jackson dress [TS]

00:16:04   another way I thought that was his I [TS]

00:16:06   didn't get in nigeria shrimp [TS]

00:16:08   yeah I don't know that's a good question [TS]

00:16:10   that's not all right so anyway yeah I [TS]

00:16:12   don't see him earlier he tried to have [TS]

00:16:14   dinner for me head try to have dinner [TS]

00:16:15   together they have to be in a soundproof [TS]

00:16:17   room along with robert evans and Jerry [TS]

00:16:19   less salt was all had these fantasies [TS]

00:16:23   about insufferable people trying to eat [TS]

00:16:25   together and like just imagining what it [TS]

00:16:28   would be like to try to even order with [TS]

00:16:30   Jerry Lewis there that is that based on [TS]

00:16:32   some of the dinners that you and I have [TS]

00:16:33   had together [TS]

00:16:34   I have to imagine now mr. Farnell I [TS]

00:16:37   think this is something he had made [TS]

00:16:39   himself [TS]

00:16:40   I think this was a project that he had [TS]

00:16:43   made in some kind of a woodshop he had a [TS]

00:16:45   multi-ply paddle that was kind of like [TS]

00:16:47   you imagine like a regular paddle but [TS]

00:16:49   kind of like with an octagonal corners [TS]

00:16:51   cut off type situation and it was really [TS]

00:16:54   was scary it was kind of a dark wood [TS]

00:16:56   like him [TS]

00:16:56   it was like I had kind of mahogany kind [TS]

00:16:58   of thing now but now you knew Mr [TS]

00:17:01   phenomena business he was the PE [TS]

00:17:02   teachers this is right around the time [TS]

00:17:03   we went from gym to PE remember that [TS]

00:17:05   needs to be jamming with PE I think that [TS]

00:17:09   right about the time I went to PE ice [TS]

00:17:12   I did everything I was when I started [TS]

00:17:13   doing everything in my power to stop [TS]

00:17:15   letting you go to PE called dressing out [TS]

00:17:17   J I didn't want I didn't want a dress I [TS]

00:17:19   wanted to I wanted to go to the darkroom [TS]

00:17:23   more or get some exemption is racist [TS]

00:17:27   I i also hated that the transition from [TS]

00:17:30   library to media center that still [TS]

00:17:32   sticks in my craw and we didn't have [TS]

00:17:34   that we were in Alaska I mean it [TS]

00:17:36   having just having like books on tape [TS]

00:17:38   was mr. mr. fenelby here's where he took [TS]

00:17:41   an eternity as he had this big-ass [TS]

00:17:42   paddle that he had made selections be [TS]

00:17:44   clear here [TS]

00:17:44   you're not making a lot of dough as an [TS]

00:17:46   african-american PE teacher in 1977 but [TS]

00:17:48   he took the time but she got something [TS]

00:17:50   on the side that's a good point that he [TS]

00:17:52   might have been cricket batting so then [TS]

00:17:53   click about this is this is Florida [TS]

00:17:55   after all you see are you implying that [TS]

00:17:57   he's a cocksman or that maybe they [TS]

00:17:58   didn't exotic dancer singer know i'm [TS]

00:18:01   thinking i'm singing wasn't that the era [TS]

00:18:04   in Florida where every single person was [TS]

00:18:06   importing cocaine from our nuts is back [TS]

00:18:08   in Ohio so you might have been busting [TS]

00:18:10   in yellow Ohio remember a goon who [TS]

00:18:12   could've been a good you might have been [TS]

00:18:13   a paddlewheel goon em you know that's [TS]

00:18:15   the kind you can slip in [TS]

00:18:16   it's like I looks Blackjacks the copies [TS]

00:18:18   to carry around with you know those guys [TS]

00:18:19   might have might have liked larger scale [TS]

00:18:22   ping-pong paddles if you forgot about [TS]

00:18:23   union-busting Ohio goons so you're [TS]

00:18:27   saying anything [TS]

00:18:28   Frankel careful is that right to full he [TS]

00:18:31   might have been he might have been a [TS]

00:18:32   union buster [TS]

00:18:33   you never know well in Alaska aboard the [TS]

00:18:37   Teamsters ran a tight ship but you [TS]

00:18:39   wouldn't get away you wouldn't go far [TS]

00:18:40   they trusted us to use your situation [TS]

00:18:43   ok here's but ok this is getting dull [TS]

00:18:50   but Mr finnell he was very tall [TS]

00:18:53   african-american what he would do is he [TS]

00:18:54   had his paddle and that paddle came out [TS]

00:18:56   he was like you get one morning and then [TS]

00:18:58   I remember one day going into class [TS]

00:19:00   because everyone knew what mr. fenell [TS]

00:19:02   did when he hit you with the paddle or [TS]

00:19:04   not easy being grown-up he he came four [TS]

00:19:10   digit something is dolphin shorts [TS]

00:19:14   everybody knew what mr. fenelby that [TS]

00:19:17   what did he do [TS]

00:19:20   terrific hurry information I am Scott my [TS]

00:19:25   friend itty-bitty crouch down and put [TS]

00:19:28   his hands over his eyes when you came [TS]

00:19:30   while you hit somebody more than a [TS]

00:19:31   couple of times they're gonna happen [TS]

00:19:33   it's got to be somewhere deep in the [TS]

00:19:35   Cincinnati Public School System there [TS]

00:19:37   must be a of like a form somewhere a [TS]

00:19:39   very very very very general form it's [TS]

00:19:42   gonna have to be filled out in [TS]

00:19:43   triplicate [TS]

00:19:44   he's gonna get the goldenrod you know [TS]

00:19:46   saying there's no probably not [TS]

00:19:48   I hope I pray John that there is not so [TS]

00:19:50   specific form as a 57 stroke 15 came in [TS]

00:19:55   dolphin shorts while hitting child [TS]

00:19:58   ok ok gonna get the goldenrod better [TS]

00:20:02   he's gonna get the goldenrod this is [TS]

00:20:05   going in your essay of gym three more [TS]

00:20:07   times and we're gonna have to talk going [TS]

00:20:09   to the permanent record [TS]

00:20:10   yeah did you get gave him pay for his [TS]

00:20:11   laundry probably right well the thing [TS]

00:20:13   about remember those who you know PE [TS]

00:20:15   coach shorts at the time where were [TS]

00:20:17   impervious to the liquid right my [TS]

00:20:19   football football short one said those [TS]

00:20:21   were made us for that this is still in [TS]

00:20:23   the dolphin like waving from a parade [TS]

00:20:24   float kind of shorts the ymca type [TS]

00:20:27   shorts [TS]

00:20:28   ok so you remember me graphs remember [TS]

00:20:30   you get the testing you smell it not you [TS]

00:20:31   I'm not a lie I one of my first the [TS]

00:20:35   first things I ever get my the first [TS]

00:20:36   thing in school that I did to try and [TS]

00:20:39   distinguish myself from the other kids [TS]

00:20:41   that I knew were just in my way between [TS]

00:20:44   me and greatness i started in second [TS]

00:20:47   grade I started publishing my own [TS]

00:20:48   newspaper and I i was the only reporter [TS]

00:20:53   and the artist [TS]

00:20:55   hi night and it was like a broadsheet we [TS]

00:20:57   also the Ombudsman I was I was the [TS]

00:21:00   editor in chief chief reporter I didn't [TS]

00:21:02   we didn't have an ombudsman but i would [TS]

00:21:05   go out on the playground and I would I [TS]

00:21:06   would you know I would investigate [TS]

00:21:08   goings-on in any case at one point the [TS]

00:21:13   teacher got tired of many a graphing my [TS]

00:21:15   newspaper for me although the the [TS]

00:21:17   teachers loved it and and they taught me [TS]

00:21:20   how to use the mimeograph machine and so [TS]

00:21:23   I i had special access to the teachers [TS]

00:21:26   you know broom closet and I would go in [TS]

00:21:30   there and I would run off cop [TS]

00:21:32   of my little second grade newspaper that [TS]

00:21:34   poems I'd written and you know and [TS]

00:21:36   events of the day and I would just sit [TS]

00:21:39   in there and just soak in that [TS]

00:21:40   mimeograph smells so nice just it was [TS]

00:21:43   like back in the old days when they had [TS]

00:21:44   leaded gasoline and you would and you [TS]

00:21:46   would sit out when your parents were [TS]

00:21:47   putting gas in the car Tony just tough [TS]

00:21:49   as much gas as he possibly could [TS]

00:21:52   while you're standing out there like oh [TS]

00:21:53   that smell but the mimeograph there's [TS]

00:21:55   nothing better than a million ground [TS]

00:21:58   well you know like you know that death [TS]

00:21:59   by a thousand cuts to the Chinese people [TS]

00:22:01   would take like a few hours to cut into [TS]

00:22:03   little pieces [TS]

00:22:03   you know that rice the people being [TS]

00:22:06   among you you know about that it's all [TS]

00:22:07   sure it's done right alesund country her [TS]

00:22:09   death by a thousand cuts it actually was [TS]

00:22:10   a thing it was heavily exaggerated in [TS]

00:22:12   western reporting but this was a thing [TS]

00:22:14   that the word out what which would you [TS]

00:22:16   prefer death by a thousand cuts or drawn [TS]

00:22:19   and quartered electronic quarter in a [TS]

00:22:21   heartbeat [TS]

00:22:22   you take drawn and quartered understand [TS]

00:22:23   that they cut off one of your limbs and [TS]

00:22:25   then wait awhile they cut off your nose [TS]

00:22:27   and then wait a while or they literally [TS]

00:22:29   not a thousand cuts is unusual the point [TS]

00:22:31   being it's excruciating do not read the [TS]

00:22:33   wikipedia entry no matter what but we [TS]

00:22:36   would do now the thing is what they [TS]

00:22:37   didn't say all the time is that give you [TS]

00:22:39   at if you could basically I think you [TS]

00:22:41   could bribe them and your family would [TS]

00:22:44   family could bribe them and they could [TS]

00:22:45   come and give you a shit ton of morphine [TS]

00:22:47   and a lot of times apparently they would [TS]

00:22:49   give you morphine before this because [TS]

00:22:51   it's just pretty awful the whole thing [TS]

00:22:54   i'm gonna give you more freedom than [TS]

00:22:55   give you death by a thousand cuts that's [TS]

00:22:57   something that's counterintuitive you [TS]

00:22:58   don't know anything about the first [TS]

00:23:00   thing about justice john you're trying [TS]

00:23:01   to hurt the person why yes you are yes [TS]

00:23:04   you are but you're it's mainly the other [TS]

00:23:05   people see them being hurt [TS]

00:23:07   this is that this is the kind of thing [TS]

00:23:08   they were doing right ok we're going to [TS]

00:23:10   teach you some kind of an object lesson [TS]

00:23:11   we're going to stop at the femur now you [TS]

00:23:12   get it let you go now it's four other [TS]

00:23:15   people that's why you hanging from the [TS]

00:23:16   that watch college at the corner at the [TS]

00:23:18   thing else is the front this is what [TS]

00:23:20   happens when you subcontract sadism out [TS]

00:23:24   to non Satanists like first i thought [TS]

00:23:27   this up [TS]

00:23:28   was it was clearly a sadistic person and [TS]

00:23:31   then it became popular and they're like [TS]

00:23:33   we need more death by a thousand cuts [TS]

00:23:34   people were going to contract this out [TS]

00:23:37   over and then there were all these [TS]

00:23:39   people that job a backlog said the idea [TS]

00:23:42   of these people that had been sentenced [TS]

00:23:44   to death by a thousand [TS]

00:23:45   and there were there were not enough [TS]

00:23:46   sadists and so then they got these guys [TS]

00:23:48   they're like I don't really want to do [TS]

00:23:50   that that's seems mean time consuming [TS]

00:23:53   and they're like sorry that's the [TS]

00:23:54   sentence and so yes maybe if I slip him [TS]

00:23:57   a little bit of morphine little it's [TS]

00:23:59   just I it's better than saying that [TS]

00:24:02   works across purposes that's like [TS]

00:24:03   somebody going and feeling like mr. [TS]

00:24:05   cuticles cricket holes [TS]

00:24:07   yeah right for somebody like oh I've got [TS]

00:24:10   coupons cricket bat but I'm you know but [TS]

00:24:12   I'm gonna like put a book I'm gonna have [TS]

00:24:14   you hold a book between the baton your [TS]

00:24:16   but you know I don't hurt you but I want [TS]

00:24:18   other kids to know that I'm like I want [TS]

00:24:20   them to hear though the sounds [TS]

00:24:23   that's like let's like strangling [TS]

00:24:25   somebody with a comfortable electric [TS]

00:24:26   cord you know exactly the that's [TS]

00:24:29   pointless is it is i mean it works at [TS]

00:24:31   cross-purposes if you're going to [TS]

00:24:33   sadistically torture somebody put your [TS]

00:24:35   heart any you shouldn't write you should [TS]

00:24:36   be reveling in how much pain you're [TS]

00:24:39   causing this is what I want to come back [TS]

00:24:40   to John Wayne Gacy here's the point I'm [TS]

00:24:42   saying that like the morphine i think [TS]

00:24:44   when they give you the math quiz you get [TS]

00:24:45   a little bit of a if that's nice and [TS]

00:24:47   fresh get hit you'll hit off the of the [TS]

00:24:49   mimeograph I think it takes the edge off [TS]

00:24:51   of the long division so mr. Pennell who [TS]

00:24:54   took the time with what I imagine is lay [TS]

00:24:56   there tabletop saw or maybe somebody was [TS]

00:24:59   keeping in his basement he made a [TS]

00:25:00   homemade paddle that without any for [TS]

00:25:03   authorization he brought to school and [TS]

00:25:04   should use to hit kids now here's what [TS]

00:25:06   he did in addition taking that time he [TS]

00:25:08   then took the time to me a graph like a [TS]

00:25:11   little not a five-star a little [TS]

00:25:13   five-point like little magical squares [TS]

00:25:16   like two inch by two inch squares to do [TS]

00:25:18   with me graph purple stars on them he [TS]

00:25:20   would tape to the paddle and hit you [TS]

00:25:22   until the star broke one he would meet [TS]

00:25:27   took the time so he thought this out he [TS]

00:25:29   ki graph probably got out of protractor [TS]

00:25:31   Andrew a ruler and a pen to get the mini [TS]

00:25:33   graph paper he went and he made him a [TS]

00:25:36   graph little stars that he taped onto [TS]

00:25:39   the paddle and they hit you with the [TS]

00:25:41   paddle until the star broke now what not [TS]

00:25:45   and then he would stand by the doorway [TS]

00:25:47   after the class has changed with his [TS]

00:25:49   arms folded holding the paddle with the [TS]

00:25:51   busted a star on it and I don't ya [TS]

00:25:54   horribly weeping child one of the only [TS]

00:25:56   see which one of the children was [TS]

00:25:57   horribly sobbing oh wow yeah i mean this [TS]

00:26:02   get so many levels to that I mean that's [TS]

00:26:05   like this guy's not running for the [TS]

00:26:06   Republican nomination right now talking [TS]

00:26:08   about the Tea Party I love this guy this [TS]

00:26:10   is a baklava of problematic problematic [TS]

00:26:13   behavior John it'sit's I I don't see [TS]

00:26:16   anything problematic about it this guy [TS]

00:26:18   this guy it deserves a Congressional [TS]

00:26:21   Medal of Honor any family center [TS]

00:26:24   I really feel like I feel like he is he [TS]

00:26:27   wasn't not in an era when being a nut [TS]

00:26:30   was was right up the middle isn't it was [TS]

00:26:34   encouraged it was bred he found the [TS]

00:26:36   place the Ohio Public Schools you know [TS]

00:26:38   where he could be [TS]

00:26:40   I mean you know this poor sandusky guy [TS]

00:26:42   now with his diddling boys in the shower [TS]

00:26:45   ok so what you're saying is three years [TS]

00:26:47   ago I was like you didn't even need a [TS]

00:26:51   license [TS]

00:26:52   whoo you didn't even need to start a [TS]

00:26:54   charity you could just be a public [TS]

00:26:56   school teacher and so you can see it is [TS]

00:27:00   better you now I'm fine with it [TS]

00:27:04   you're saying mr. Finelli in some ways [TS]

00:27:06   not only was channeling his energies [TS]

00:27:07   into the right place but maybe avoid [TS]

00:27:09   going to jail because he found a place [TS]

00:27:11   where it might not have been okay to hit [TS]

00:27:12   people with a mimeograph star until it [TS]

00:27:14   broke on his homemade paddle is a kind [TS]

00:27:16   of interesting kind of what I'm saying [TS]

00:27:17   is right now if you if you wanted to do [TS]

00:27:20   that you would have to drive around in a [TS]

00:27:21   white van and grab boys off the [TS]

00:27:25   playground and do it and then you have [TS]

00:27:26   to kill him and stuff of their body in a [TS]

00:27:27   culvert there's no pension [TS]

00:27:29   I mean that you're not going to get away [TS]

00:27:31   with that somewhere there's no a week [TS]

00:27:32   even if you want to Thailand they'd find [TS]

00:27:35   you [TS]

00:27:35   I happen to the rock'n'roll chi that's [TS]

00:27:38   what happened to him that's exactly [TS]

00:27:40   right here a lot of trouble with that 40 [TS]

00:27:43   years ago you do you could retire and [TS]

00:27:45   and and and have her but he probably has [TS]

00:27:50   that paddle or he's probably dead now [TS]

00:27:51   but he probably had that paddle like [TS]

00:27:53   mounted in his den ya all the memory [TS]

00:27:55   what about the dolphin shorts now people [TS]

00:27:59   don't I i I'm going to get rid of those [TS]

00:28:01   this guy's doesn't let you know what [TS]

00:28:02   parts to keep and what parts to get rid [TS]

00:28:04   of it so what is that the soul the the [TS]

00:28:07   that only recently have we started [TS]

00:28:09   fetishizing things like the clothes that [TS]

00:28:12   that's the that stuff happened in you [TS]

00:28:16   know what I mean like all those are the [TS]

00:28:17   shorts that I wore me out my channel [TS]

00:28:19   analysis gallons or something yeah i [TS]

00:28:21   don't i don't think i mean because [TS]

00:28:23   otherwise like where's Napoleon's hat [TS]

00:28:26   right they've got Napoleon's hat you [TS]

00:28:29   think they have Napoleon somebody that [TS]

00:28:30   you think somebody's got to pull inside [TS]

00:28:31   oh I finding the book of lists it's one [TS]

00:28:33   of the most costly things ever auctioned [TS]

00:28:35   off at you know what I I there's nowhere [TS]

00:28:39   I could go to look at something is I [TS]

00:28:40   think if there if I think if if there [TS]

00:28:42   was Napoleon's how is still around but [TS]

00:28:44   I've seen a picture of it because that's [TS]

00:28:46   the type of thing that I searched the [TS]

00:28:47   internet keeps you up at night i would [TS]

00:28:49   have I would have followed some chain of [TS]

00:28:52   links to a picture of Napoleon's and I [TS]

00:28:54   would have stared at it for an hour so I [TS]

00:28:56   don't have i but but even when leaving [TS]

00:28:59   Napoleon's had a side like right now I [TS]

00:29:02   just I happened to read in the New York [TS]

00:29:04   Observer the other day but they're [TS]

00:29:06   having some auctions of elizabeth [TS]

00:29:10   taylor's estate she pass [TS]

00:29:13   I'm afraid she's coming Fred she's gone [TS]

00:29:15   now what's your perfume couple diamonds [TS]

00:29:18   no it was called so one white shoulder [TS]

00:29:21   like diamonds white diamonds screen [TS]

00:29:23   click originally she's mentally she's [TS]

00:29:26   honest hours i don't remember but [TS]

00:29:29   continued their actually writing off [TS]

00:29:30   Elizabeth Taylor they're having other [TS]

00:29:32   having an auction of elizabeth taylor's [TS]

00:29:34   material that lasts [TS]

00:29:36   it's five full days of auction maybe [TS]

00:29:41   they got an incompetent auctioneering [TS]

00:29:42   he's talking really slowly [TS]

00:29:44   oh no no this is this is that this is [TS]

00:29:46   being done by christie's this is like [TS]

00:29:48   this is the auction event of the season [TS]

00:29:50   they're having one day for her just for [TS]

00:29:54   her legendary jewelry and then a second [TS]

00:29:58   day for her run-of-the-mill jewelry and [TS]

00:30:01   then a day for like undergarments and [TS]

00:30:03   there's a day for for the for the [TS]

00:30:05   cocktail napkins that she doodled on I [TS]

00:30:07   mean there's we have serious like a [TS]

00:30:09   whole panting day such as this is that [TS]

00:30:12   subsumed inside of just the day of the [TS]

00:30:15   auction your kind of embarrassed to be [TS]

00:30:16   at yeah it's the auction where where it [TS]

00:30:19   you're really be going by elizabeth [TS]

00:30:21   taylor's olds pantaloons like it just [TS]

00:30:24   doesn't [TS]

00:30:25   I don't understand I mean a granted i am [TS]

00:30:28   not a fifty-year-old gay male so I don't [TS]

00:30:32   know why you would go to an Elizabeth [TS]

00:30:34   Taylor or-or-or Liza Minnelli auction [TS]

00:30:38   for instance Malik ass [TS]

00:30:40   I think Liza Minnelli is still dead but [TS]

00:30:42   when she arms are still alive when she [TS]

00:30:44   dies [TS]

00:30:45   yes there will be five days of auction's [TS]

00:30:48   of her undergarments and blood she was [TS]

00:30:50   married to Peter Allen which is kind of [TS]

00:30:51   kind of funny things happen Ellie yeah I [TS]

00:30:54   know how you can see that one coming [TS]

00:30:57   yeah no no I and is now that neyo go to [TS]

00:31:00   Rio feelings for what did you have a [TS]

00:31:03   later husband who was like who seemed [TS]

00:31:05   like he had been crafted out of heart [TS]

00:31:08   David something not David Furnish you [TS]

00:31:12   know he looked like he looked like [TS]

00:31:15   something had been discarded from a [TS]

00:31:16   naugahyde factory [TS]

00:31:17   yeah right like like like someone had [TS]

00:31:19   had gone through through a Morgan just [TS]

00:31:21   taken like random like that second that [TS]

00:31:24   I was that guy was super disturbing have [TS]

00:31:27   you ever been someplace we have to look [TS]

00:31:28   at like famous close people famous [TS]

00:31:31   cornwall like okay so you got the big [TS]

00:31:33   Paul Allen museum there but I don't know [TS]

00:31:35   how this happened but what's already [TS]

00:31:36   have tricks is closed [TS]

00:31:37   ok i wanna hear about that one time I [TS]

00:31:39   don't know how this happened just might [TS]

00:31:40   be one of those open memories but i'm [TS]

00:31:41   pretty sure that one time I saw it maybe [TS]

00:31:44   was when we were in Washington at [TS]

00:31:45   sansone i'm pretty sure I saw a really [TS]

00:31:48   really really really long big display of [TS]

00:31:53   first ladies gowns [TS]

00:31:56   oh that does sound Smithsonian it's like [TS]

00:31:59   going to the sewing store it's one of [TS]

00:32:01   those trips you remember that if your [TS]

00:32:02   mom is crafty like that but having to go [TS]

00:32:04   to some kind of a store when you're in [TS]

00:32:06   kid with his chest it's like having to [TS]

00:32:08   go to like the members our fabric [TS]

00:32:10   stories that is the canonical the Ben [TS]

00:32:12   Franklin or whatever it is not a single [TS]

00:32:14   item in the entire place like a Snoopy [TS]

00:32:16   applique that you can take out of the [TS]

00:32:18   things like the most amusing thing is to [TS]

00:32:20   get the styrofoam stop foam you put the [TS]

00:32:21   plants in and get plastic flowers and [TS]

00:32:24   and then is like like ladies and smocks [TS]

00:32:26   that's not even remember going to the [TS]

00:32:28   carpet store right where was like her [TS]

00:32:30   house full of roles and roll [TS]

00:32:32   all the different carpet you know what [TS]

00:32:34   mr. Phelps should have done I don't tell [TS]

00:32:36   mr. know what to do because that's [TS]

00:32:38   probably racist did mr. fenell it the [TS]

00:32:41   pastels w I think if what he should have [TS]

00:32:43   done is you know what should have done [TS]

00:32:44   one of those on mr. hand type situations [TS]

00:32:46   pulled up and it's probably really cool [TS]

00:32:48   purple car and then taking book carpet [TS]

00:32:50   store taking you in carpet store 48 [TS]

00:32:52   hours just folded his arms and stared at [TS]

00:32:55   you through mimeograph stars as well the [TS]

00:32:59   thing about don't want to lose you as a [TS]

00:33:00   small swatches known as I would get is [TS]

00:33:02   why is it in my carpet was somewhat [TS]

00:33:04   carpet what was nice about the [TS]

00:33:06   Smithsonian was that the Smithsonian had [TS]

00:33:09   it divided up in completely separate [TS]

00:33:11   buildings right so there was the air and [TS]

00:33:13   space there was the building that had [TS]

00:33:15   the first ladies gowns that you just you [TS]

00:33:19   didn't even have to go in I mean or or [TS]

00:33:22   you could you can probably part of [TS]

00:33:24   American history of the american [TS]

00:33:26   musician okay here's the thing I've only [TS]

00:33:28   been watching a couple times the [TS]

00:33:29   American stuff pretty good i would say [TS]

00:33:31   focus on Natural History and air and [TS]

00:33:33   space and as you know John I'm not gonna [TS]

00:33:35   I'm not good yeah was theoretically i'm [TS]

00:33:38   not good at time management but I knew [TS]

00:33:40   that every minute I spent looking at [TS]

00:33:43   ladybirds gown I was not checking out [TS]

00:33:46   like an Apollo right we're going to be [TS]

00:33:48   x1 I was not seeing like the the Wright [TS]

00:33:51   brothers you know hanging from the [TS]

00:33:53   ceiling or whatever that remember the [TS]

00:33:55   the whatever that you go to see the film [TS]

00:33:57   where that your first person kind of [TS]

00:34:01   flying movie where it goes off a cliff [TS]

00:34:03   and everybody in the room gasps like an [TS]

00:34:05   imax type situation yeah yeah but that [TS]

00:34:07   was before I max existed you know my [TS]

00:34:08   first time actually was to mount st. [TS]

00:34:11   Helens now james cameron's titanic I [TS]

00:34:17   think mount st. Helens a little bit the [TS]

00:34:19   regional yeah that's true where you have [TS]

00:34:23   that was about Gunther gable Williams [TS]

00:34:24   who's come through cable will you [TS]

00:34:27   remember that the dead lion tamer guy [TS]

00:34:29   with the giant blond hair who is the [TS]

00:34:31   star of Ringling Brothers for a really [TS]

00:34:32   long time maybe I saw him from a [TS]

00:34:35   distance [TS]

00:34:35   yeah you probably a lot of tension to [TS]

00:34:37   like who the Marquis character and [TS]

00:34:38   rainbows of the first time axis it was [TS]

00:34:40   him his children just doing things with [TS]

00:34:42   animals but doesn't seem like something [TS]

00:34:44   that would need to be I'm [TS]

00:34:45   x yeah like that could be like a [TS]

00:34:47   magazine really it seems like it's been [TS]

00:34:50   super 8 things like you would have [TS]

00:34:52   gotten a lot of the action like night [TS]

00:34:54   riding a roller coaster that kind of [TS]

00:34:56   thing i'm actually want to go to clown [TS]

00:34:58   school I think you can think you know i [TS]

00:35:01   don't okay all right did you want to go [TS]

00:35:02   to clown school is that why you're [TS]

00:35:03   bringing it up [TS]

00:35:04   no I mean if I'd gotten a scholarship to [TS]

00:35:07   clown school I want to turn it down if I [TS]

00:35:08   could say I think you're contaminating [TS]

00:35:10   two things that are very similar which [TS]

00:35:12   is that the tiny silly school that I [TS]

00:35:15   went to in Florida he was on the grounds [TS]

00:35:18   of two of the Ringling Brothers homes [TS]

00:35:20   and adjacent to the Clown College of the [TS]

00:35:25   club also where it was also with the [TS]

00:35:27   clown's went in the winter right because [TS]

00:35:30   in summer they're up by their up in [TS]

00:35:32   Wisconsin there's a triangle of the case [TS]

00:35:36   a lot of clown cases are being tried in [TS]

00:35:38   the summer and they can't be adjudicated [TS]

00:35:39   how to sarasota that's not i think that [TS]

00:35:42   was in the Magna Carta the clown a lot [TS]

00:35:45   clowns you know pee-wee herman will pee [TS]

00:35:47   wee herman used to live the used to live [TS]

00:35:49   in sarasota heavy cloud influences that [TS]

00:35:52   where he got arrested for masturbating [TS]

00:35:53   in a movie theater [TS]

00:35:55   yes and it's one less it's what led to [TS]

00:35:56   are mugshots happening in the exact same [TS]

00:35:58   room just a couple years apart i'll [TS]

00:36:00   write your famous mugshot god I loved [TS]

00:36:02   that mug shot I'd love to know more [TS]

00:36:03   about what really happened in that [TS]

00:36:04   theater i still think him something with [TS]

00:36:06   some kind of a jamup III don't know [TS]

00:36:07   something so what happened he was he was [TS]

00:36:10   he was yanking even in Porton but what [TS]

00:36:15   shoes should have been playing Chinese [TS]

00:36:17   checkers part myself should be playing [TS]

00:36:18   checkers [TS]

00:36:19   what should have been doing it while he [TS]

00:36:20   was in a point of theater is an exercise [TS]

00:36:23   in restraint should have been hitting [TS]

00:36:24   some of the paddle with a star on it [TS]

00:36:25   what does he didn't know what he was [TS]

00:36:27   doing theater they masturbate [TS]

00:36:28   this is the thing about the cops who now [TS]

00:36:31   you don't have as much experience with [TS]

00:36:32   the copses as not as likely to rise [TS]

00:36:34   literally physical letting you live next [TS]

00:36:37   door to the police but they haven't any [TS]

00:36:39   release they have never grabbed you and [TS]

00:36:41   pushed up against a wall [TS]

00:36:43   i'm guessing but here's the thing about [TS]

00:36:45   the cops they sit around and and and and [TS]

00:36:50   they they have seasons there's these [TS]

00:36:52   seasons of the cops right where it's [TS]

00:36:54   like when it on a song [TS]

00:36:56   yeah the seasons of the cob secretary [TS]

00:36:58   Jack something [TS]

00:36:59   look please continue I you know I i [TS]

00:37:01   think i see Donovan all the time now on [TS]

00:37:03   my facebook because I'm facebook friends [TS]

00:37:05   with Ione Skye who shot the ones i grew [TS]

00:37:08   up in the video [TS]

00:37:09   yeah yeah you know my band had a song [TS]

00:37:10   called Diane Court really yeah it's [TS]

00:37:12   actually one of our pretty good songs [TS]

00:37:14   well I only married Bentley the [TS]

00:37:15   Australian is much Mary I thought she [TS]

00:37:17   was married to a beastie boy she dated a [TS]

00:37:20   bc board but she married Ben Lee who's a [TS]

00:37:22   loser friend of mine from the musical [TS]

00:37:24   Bentley the guy we did the Pixies the [TS]

00:37:26   thing that guy yea he's using adorable [TS]

00:37:29   what does he know it's like 1600 using [TS]

00:37:31   he's a great [TS]

00:37:32   he's a great songwriter a very nice [TS]

00:37:33   fellow and he and and I love your songs [TS]

00:37:36   i love that married huh married and they [TS]

00:37:38   got married in india in a traditional [TS]

00:37:41   Indian ceremony because ever since [TS]

00:37:44   Donovan went over with george harrison [TS]

00:37:47   and the beatles to the Mari she he has [TS]

00:37:51   PS continue to practice Maharishi ism I [TS]

00:37:55   guess he stuck with it after Pete [TS]

00:37:56   Townsend know because the other with the [TS]

00:37:58   other guy Beach Boys was Mike love and [TS]

00:38:00   the beatles right and donovan and he [TS]

00:38:03   stuck to come back and make love at some [TS]

00:38:04   point and I thought my god of the five [TS]

00:38:07   shares i'm sorry please computer but [TS]

00:38:08   anyway so i oniy is at hand and Ben now [TS]

00:38:11   I mean may like have the dot on the [TS]

00:38:13   forehead and the whole business little [TS]

00:38:15   9i think so I mean I don't think I i [TS]

00:38:17   don't know i don't know for sure but but [TS]

00:38:20   but that's how they were married but [TS]

00:38:21   anyway i see so I see Donovan all the [TS]

00:38:23   time but we're talking about it guys [TS]

00:38:26   josh is a lot of threads here I'm gonna [TS]

00:38:28   need some kind of Ben Franklin visit you [TS]

00:38:30   so first of all de i think a lot of [TS]

00:38:32   people to understand that despite your [TS]

00:38:35   varying degrees of modesty and success [TS]

00:38:39   you know lots of famous people you're [TS]

00:38:41   kind of famous in your circles you know [TS]

00:38:43   a lot of famous people i'm one of those [TS]

00:38:45   you say when you say zoo-wee we talk [TS]

00:38:47   about zooey deschanel that's because [TS]

00:38:49   you're kind of friends with her [TS]

00:38:50   we're not going then haha i know yet to [TS]

00:38:52   be vetted right but i want to be clear [TS]

00:38:54   that you're not just reading your not [TS]

00:38:56   like Bruce Vilanch you're not just [TS]

00:38:57   reading magazines [TS]

00:38:58   it's the verification what he says it's [TS]

00:39:05   not I always counsel we just see now i [TS]

00:39:08   would say that Zoe is always not sending [TS]

00:39:10   me any special messages [TS]

00:39:11   you called me from jail and said you [TS]

00:39:13   need to be just bailed out whether you [TS]

00:39:15   know I know she would please [TS]

00:39:18   she was like she would not bail you out [TS]

00:39:19   but she would at least know who's call [TS]

00:39:21   she's refusing correct [TS]

00:39:22   uh-oh i don't think i ever tell you what [TS]

00:39:27   we were talking about was the seasons of [TS]

00:39:29   the cops punk into that so you're [TS]

00:39:32   telling me [TS]

00:39:32   so you were you know what you remember [TS]

00:39:34   that dude put out all those rock and [TS]

00:39:36   roll family trees i think there's one [TS]

00:39:38   guy that made all those awesome rock [TS]

00:39:40   family trees is a really good one for [TS]

00:39:41   big stars the one somebody tried to do [TS]

00:39:43   that with the Seattle music scene but [TS]

00:39:45   the problem of those is there it's [TS]

00:39:47   always it's always a the Friends of the [TS]

00:39:50   people who are making the like there's a [TS]

00:39:52   there is a battle Robert is really [TS]

00:39:54   remember these that is really other than [TS]

00:39:56   the old ones were great but the Seattle [TS]

00:39:59   rock family tree like the center of the [TS]

00:40:02   of the thing as it sits this thing and [TS]

00:40:05   EMP it's a huge thing but like they're [TS]

00:40:07   all these bands that no one's ever heard [TS]

00:40:09   of it's just that the people that made [TS]

00:40:11   the diagram is green river want to drop [TS]

00:40:15   that's the best name to drop Green River [TS]

00:40:17   sonics reduced Green River produced [TS]

00:40:20   members of Mudhoney and also a pearl jam [TS]

00:40:25   or jam yeah okay he's not hungry he's [TS]

00:40:27   not hungry is that right [TS]

00:40:29   he's going hungry i'm not on we're going [TS]

00:40:32   hungry just going hungry i will want to [TS]

00:40:34   haul around here or grabbing y'all [TS]

00:40:39   coming yellow sun that's a better [TS]

00:40:42   surprise left your girl portrait [TS]

00:40:45   murderer hero diet letting the play [TS]

00:40:49   that's like--that's like a double J to [TS]

00:40:50   make fun of pearl jam in Seattle because [TS]

00:40:53   they're wonderful guys I get that you [TS]

00:40:56   told me this troubles with the upass [TS]

00:40:58   with happily who you pals with I'm not [TS]

00:41:00   pals with any of them but but but I [TS]

00:41:02   spicy them around and they're super [TS]

00:41:04   supportive and nice guys I'm any better [TS]

00:41:06   is a nice guy when he when he does it [TS]

00:41:08   down if you take him to 13 coins Danny's [TS]

00:41:10   wherever that he's gonna he's gonna dial [TS]

00:41:12   it down only guessing he has to dial it [TS]

00:41:13   down he's always pretty mellow I'm [TS]

00:41:15   really intense [TS]

00:41:17   he seems like Bono meet teenage fanclub [TS]

00:41:19   hair don't [TS]

00:41:21   maybe when he was 21 but he's playing [TS]

00:41:23   his mid-40s [TS]

00:41:24   he's now and he's a mellow duty likes to [TS]

00:41:26   surface all this nice i'm glad ok I'm [TS]

00:41:28   glad for that I'm we're getting the [TS]

00:41:30   threads are gonna make love card here at [TS]

00:41:32   this is a mistake early years ago I made [TS]

00:41:34   fun of the hold steady [TS]

00:41:36   oh my god you're kidding I mean why did [TS]

00:41:39   you give something like that I made fun [TS]

00:41:40   of the hold steady and in cmj magazine [TS]

00:41:42   or something i said that they I said [TS]

00:41:45   that they sounded like they sounded like [TS]

00:41:48   a bunch of guys on coffee break at a [TS]

00:41:49   software company is based in captivity [TS]

00:41:52   fake fake singing the employee manual [TS]

00:41:56   yeah a bit in the style of blue springs [TS]

00:41:58   oh my god no in fact I think I said you [TS]

00:42:00   guys really nice because that in the [TS]

00:42:03   style of John Cafferty in the beaver [TS]

00:42:08   Brown Bag covering Bruce brings too much [TS]

00:42:11   the clock baby clock the punch [TS]

00:42:13   I'm gonna have to find me after my [TS]

00:42:15   clocked out lunch and ever since I ever [TS]

00:42:18   said something that was pretty good huh [TS]

00:42:19   that was nice and it's nice you start a [TS]

00:42:21   band you should call bacon right back [TS]

00:42:23   but I I ever since i did that what I [TS]

00:42:27   what I did that day in making fun of the [TS]

00:42:29   whole study was that I I kind of a [TS]

00:42:33   little eliminated the possibility that I [TS]

00:42:35   could ever be offended by anybody [TS]

00:42:37   leaving an anonymous comment about how [TS]

00:42:40   my band was playing on an Internet a [TS]

00:42:42   message board right [TS]

00:42:44   like like like I should never have W now [TS]

00:42:47   your heart you're part of the problem [TS]

00:42:48   its yeah exactly it's a so many so many [TS]

00:42:51   musicians when you ask them about other [TS]

00:42:53   musicians they say good luck to all [TS]

00:42:55   bands i support everyone her a good [TS]

00:42:58   times and I thought that for years and [TS]

00:43:01   years I thought that was incredibly [TS]

00:43:02   disingenuous because all those musicians [TS]

00:43:03   say terrible things about each other [TS]

00:43:05   behind their backs [TS]

00:43:06   nothing like comics though at well I [TS]

00:43:08   just almost as Batman comics are way [TS]

00:43:10   more insecure the middle way but you [TS]

00:43:13   know what you get a response i've heard [TS]

00:43:14   that guy's he and Danielle her our big [TS]

00:43:16   palace now I'm sure everybody they're [TS]

00:43:18   all famous friends and everybody's [TS]

00:43:20   friendly I know you're welcome off the [TS]

00:43:22   latch on me you know I'm not that guy [TS]

00:43:23   but I'm sure I'm sure that they I'm sure [TS]

00:43:26   that that way [TS]

00:43:27   what if the long winters come up in [TS]

00:43:28   conversation those guys are like oh yeah [TS]

00:43:31   that mr. fucking smartass guy you should [TS]

00:43:34   eat not gonna get too deep for [TS]

00:43:35   questioning our I got a lot to get [TS]

00:43:37   I gotta get to love- 0 and document are [TS]

00:43:39   you be telling me that you don't like [TS]

00:43:41   hold steady almost killed me you don't [TS]

00:43:42   like the record it's not really it's not [TS]

00:43:45   your wheelhouse something I don't like [TS]

00:43:47   it but I mean I was frankly and I know [TS]

00:43:49   I'm going to get a lot of angry she's [TS]

00:43:51   getting scarce but I don't like Bruce [TS]

00:43:53   Springsteen oh boy ok here's it i just [TS]

00:43:57   don't feel like you don't tell me you [TS]

00:43:58   know like Andy's room [TS]

00:43:59   he's a very nice man ok support his band [TS]

00:44:03   has a vision [TS]

00:44:04   there's a lot of good drumming and stuff [TS]

00:44:06   that happens one of my favorite Bob [TS]

00:44:08   Dylan songs at done working I'm sorry [TS]

00:44:11   let's take a step back John is Bob Dylan [TS]

00:44:13   okay do you like everybody know I do [TS]

00:44:15   like Bob going are you sure you don't [TS]

00:44:16   want to just go with my like some bob [TS]

00:44:18   dylan don't know it grew on me it took [TS]

00:44:19   me along the street I'm gonna go I just [TS]

00:44:21   like the early Bob Dylan I understand [TS]

00:44:23   Bob doing now and I like Bob Dylan very [TS]

00:44:25   much nobody understands i don't like I [TS]

00:44:27   don't want nobody understands the [TS]

00:44:29   contrary I understand Bob Dylan in one [TS]

00:44:32   of the movies i think not the pennybaker [TS]

00:44:37   1i think in i want to say in the martin [TS]

00:44:40   scorsese one but i forget i look this up [TS]

00:44:42   on youtube for our extensive shows you [TS]

00:44:44   enjoy our show notes you know the show [TS]

00:44:46   notes for the show are better than the [TS]

00:44:47   show thank you [TS]

00:44:48   good you guys to show notes and we don't [TS]

00:44:51   even need to broadcast this podcast you [TS]

00:44:54   should just you show you should talk to [TS]

00:44:55   me for an hour and then just write your [TS]

00:44:57   impressions [TS]

00:44:58   I'm trying to evolve as a person [TS]

00:44:59   published over the first time alignment [TS]

00:45:01   you're harming me on many many levels [TS]

00:45:03   and moaning that you know what that [TS]

00:45:05   means but this is one scene and I'm told [TS]

00:45:07   this is not what it looks like but you [TS]

00:45:09   know the song uh let me 20 no limit and [TS]

00:45:13   sunsets and I know the song love plus 1 [TS]

00:45:16   by haircut 100 so I don't have a dream [TS]

00:45:21   it's like uh huh something I mean you [TS]

00:45:26   just you just played the course to sweet [TS]

00:45:28   Jane how that would be on see [TS]

00:45:34   yeah keep going [TS]

00:45:37   oh I don't like when I got to candy says [TS]

00:45:40   you like that one [TS]

00:45:41   I'm sorry and I'm gonna solo [TS]

00:45:44   ok no no stop stop stop until the show [TS]

00:45:46   this until the show starts up right now [TS]

00:45:48   ok so hot god this is what we're gonna [TS]

00:45:51   lose people there's one sitting like [TS]

00:45:53   music people love music I see my problem [TS]

00:45:55   is I'm not I'm very very very close [TS]

00:45:58   I've never been placed the guitar guy [TS]

00:45:59   i'm getting close skype jam [TS]

00:46:02   I don't know I just get a little bit of [TS]

00:46:04   a skeptic I played along with crazy [TS]

00:46:06   train over skype yesterday and I'm [TS]

00:46:07   several you feel bad about right now [TS]

00:46:08   let's get us there like wider and wider [TS]

00:46:10   Merlyn stopped the skype jam this was [TS]

00:46:12   epic those people had fish I mean people [TS]

00:46:15   will listen to anything you find this [TS]

00:46:17   but you don't do this i'm talking about [TS]

00:46:19   you know that's not me a little as long [TS]

00:46:23   as it sounds like every other Dylan song [TS]

00:46:24   i believe hide its see now where he's [TS]

00:46:29   sitting there and I office right now [TS]

00:46:31   doing is doing is listening to this and [TS]

00:46:33   he's like I was gonna ask that comes out [TS]

00:46:35   like spinning R&B record now what about [TS]

00:46:36   little Steven you like little Steven you [TS]

00:46:38   enjoy this with randos most guys don't [TS]

00:46:40   spin their own records that's all [TS]

00:46:41   computer programmed American thing Casey [TS]

00:46:43   Kasem no no the little steven and Bob [TS]

00:46:45   Dylan those TV those radio you're saying [TS]

00:46:47   they need a little spots in between that [TS]

00:46:49   yeah they sit in front of Mike they [TS]

00:46:50   talked for half an hour and then [TS]

00:46:51   somebody else cuz i don't see little [TS]

00:46:53   Steven doing that because you think he's [TS]

00:46:55   authentic because you're Bruce [TS]

00:46:56   Springsteen fan and you think those guys [TS]

00:46:58   like with and they live in a warehouse [TS]

00:47:00   somewhere i just want to be clear cuz [TS]

00:47:01   I'm about to open a new deck of cards [TS]

00:47:02   are you trying to get you trying to get [TS]

00:47:04   me to tackle the authenticity you big [TS]

00:47:06   fucking John fucking rocks right now is [TS]

00:47:09   working on a motorcycle somewhere and [TS]

00:47:11   some girl comes in any and offers him [TS]

00:47:13   like a Khloe my happening [TS]

00:47:15   God in heaven authenticity are you is [TS]

00:47:18   this how we're gonna roll we're gonna [TS]

00:47:19   roll Los Angeles underwear tailored for [TS]

00:47:21   him i'm sure there's don't have a single [TS]

00:47:22   pass on the word I some french guy [TS]

00:47:25   that's like tailoring is underwear [TS]

00:47:27   here's the barrel here's the fish [TS]

00:47:28   fucking shut up I didn't mean that [TS]

00:47:30   here's what I want to cut dammit i had a [TS]

00:47:32   point to make and I got Liza Minnelli [TS]

00:47:33   and we still got bad words words better [TS]

00:47:35   bad words i got into cards that has bad [TS]

00:47:37   words ok come back to this we should say [TS]

00:47:39   more bad words to people okay we still [TS]

00:47:41   do bonus offer for the love of Christ I [TS]

00:47:43   god damn it everyone I talked to on [TS]

00:47:46   these programs is making me angry [TS]

00:47:47   Mike love all you guys got can be like [TS]

00:47:50   guys with mike love [TS]

00:47:52   oh my god i would the thing is and I [TS]

00:47:54   don't have a lot of money John i have [TS]

00:47:56   almost no money but i would take [TS]

00:47:57   whatever i've gotten hire someone who [TS]

00:47:58   never stop kicking him in the balls for [TS]

00:48:00   eternity [TS]

00:48:01   I just I think that he should just [TS]

00:48:03   there's any ideas fucking face I want to [TS]

00:48:05   just but for eternity you're talking [TS]

00:48:07   about not that's not a that's not a [TS]

00:48:08   higher that you can do with money is [TS]

00:48:11   here is that the more you bounce [TS]

00:48:13   Transcendental Meditation get the one [TS]

00:48:15   david lynch does oh that's where you fly [TS]

00:48:18   yeah don't you balance reply that's fun [TS]

00:48:20   to watch it watch on youtube you ever [TS]

00:48:21   seen the flying soon fly so there was a [TS]

00:48:24   period in i'm going to say 1965 where I [TS]

00:48:29   you know 50 dispute this but like there [TS]

00:48:31   was pretty much nobody cooler than Bob [TS]

00:48:34   Dylan in the true sense maybe like [TS]

00:48:35   there's a point probably more like miles [TS]

00:48:37   davis was cooler at some other age you [TS]

00:48:39   don't mean but like there's this period [TS]

00:48:41   there was nobody cooler than Bob Dylan [TS]

00:48:42   because the Beatles now I don't like the [TS]

00:48:46   Beatles are gonna be loads were really [TS]

00:48:48   even cool i mean cool about the old city [TS]

00:48:50   wall set the seagulls thought you were [TS]

00:48:52   cool [TS]

00:48:53   you're pretty cool didn't feel like I'm [TS]

00:48:55   gonna throw out of the weird one here [TS]

00:48:57   but like mike scott walker like Scott [TS]

00:48:59   Walker is cool in the sense of like wow [TS]

00:49:01   that guy is on his own planet i do not [TS]

00:49:04   get him he's gorgeous and had on cage [TS]

00:49:06   attributed that have you seen that Scott [TS]

00:49:08   Walker documentary ah dunno not miss it [TS]

00:49:12   is on netflix and it's you think you're [TS]

00:49:15   going to get it then you watch it and [TS]

00:49:16   there's a turn another turn it [TS]

00:49:17   completely mind-blowing 65 I'm saying [TS]

00:49:19   nobody was cooler than down there was [TS]

00:49:20   this period around the time of the I [TS]

00:49:24   don't not don't look back [TS]

00:49:25   so it's called was the one where does [TS]

00:49:27   subterranean homesick blues [TS]

00:49:29   yeah yeah that one and then I seen it [TS]

00:49:31   just seemed room there's a scene in a [TS]

00:49:32   room there's people floating around and [TS]

00:49:34   still make me reveal how little I really [TS]

00:49:36   know about no it's okay i'll always be [TS]

00:49:38   over before you know it always cover for [TS]

00:49:40   you say no thank you [TS]

00:49:42   it's like I've always said though you [TS]

00:49:43   know and those days we set sliding down [TS]

00:49:45   the street from the American dream [TS]

00:49:47   yeah ah he's just in a room he's got the [TS]

00:49:50   sunglasses on but it doesn't look good [TS]

00:49:52   dish [TS]

00:49:52   he's fucking Bob Dylan he's got the cool [TS]

00:49:54   hair and sit around and you're not [TS]

00:49:55   trying to be cool he's just fucking Bob [TS]

00:49:56   Dylan he can't help it and sits down [TS]

00:49:59   he's trying are you getting any ideas I [TS]

00:50:01   don't think I think he used to i think [TS]

00:50:03   is a point now where is good and mad [TS]

00:50:05   he's mad by 65 he's already mad okay [TS]

00:50:09   pretty bad by them but the thing is heat [TS]

00:50:10   breaks so many rules of cool today or he [TS]

00:50:14   you know what I mean all the things were [TS]

00:50:16   you and I will go out God get that guy [TS]

00:50:17   fucking get that guy out here comes in [TS]

00:50:19   the room he's aloof he's got the [TS]

00:50:20   sunglasses as pal Donovan is there is [TS]

00:50:24   maybe tom is there i remember but the [TS]

00:50:25   point is that simple he sits down with [TS]

00:50:27   an acoustic guitar and and just start [TS]

00:50:30   strumming I'll love minus zero and [TS]

00:50:32   you'll know the song the instant your [TS]

00:50:33   Madeline's in those anything rather than [TS]

00:50:36   like the hour than somebody and then [TS]

00:50:38   I'll he says it didn't and you can see [TS]

00:50:41   everybody in the room is just wrapped [TS]

00:50:43   yet again and seriously watch this scene [TS]

00:50:45   you're just like oh my god this song is [TS]

00:50:46   fucking perfect it's so good at this is [TS]

00:50:49   the shot they cut away to this shot of [TS]

00:50:51   donovan and I've been told this is not [TS]

00:50:53   what it looked like but the Ottoman [TS]

00:50:54   sitting there and if you can imagine [TS]

00:50:55   leaning forward smoking a cigarette with [TS]

00:50:59   the scientists fake smile you've ever [TS]

00:51:02   seen another kind of really tense almost [TS]

00:51:05   like bobbing back and forth fake smile [TS]

00:51:07   is looking cigarette mr. Donovan you [TS]

00:51:09   know he's got mellow yellow and talking [TS]

00:51:10   about bananas and shit but but like [TS]

00:51:12   Dylan's just sitting there effortlessly [TS]

00:51:13   playing a fucking three-chord he's [TS]

00:51:15   basically playing Louie Louie except [TS]

00:51:16   it's about the human soul and it its [TS]

00:51:20   supply i just watched that are like God [TS]

00:51:23   is so brutal to watch but anyway you [TS]

00:51:26   know his daughter she tied you up until [TS]

00:51:28   you get your video is Deirdre at a [TS]

00:51:30   December show going uh out John I'm by [TS]

00:51:37   spoke poorly I wat ya The Decemberists [TS]

00:51:41   are their music their why December's are [TS]

00:51:44   the Dillon to my Donovan Oh fucking give [TS]

00:51:48   me a break then claim owner does dad [TS]

00:51:54   let's look at you being serious i [TS]

00:51:55   thought i do enjoy their you enjoy their [TS]

00:51:57   music [TS]

00:51:58   don't say a bad thing about the december [TS]

00:51:59   and I said you know what I enjoy their [TS]

00:52:01   music I've been hearing Mumford & Sons [TS]

00:52:03   everywhere I go [TS]

00:52:04   recently said that shirt Eddie Murphy [TS]

00:52:06   we're seeing a movie not a Mumford & [TS]

00:52:08   Sons is this it's this band [TS]

00:52:10   but he should talk about for a year I [TS]

00:52:12   and and I i made a record last winter in [TS]

00:52:14   in the UK and one of the guys on the [TS]

00:52:16   record was one of the guys from Mumford [TS]

00:52:18   & Sons at the time I have heard and I'm [TS]

00:52:21   like I think it's another name you're [TS]

00:52:22   making out so we made this we made this [TS]

00:52:24   record called Mount desolation with the [TS]

00:52:27   some English guys and some other [TS]

00:52:28   American guys and then mumford and sons [TS]

00:52:31   became like the biggest band in the [TS]

00:52:32   universe and checks out for instance [TS]

00:52:35   yeah and and they sound they sound like [TS]

00:52:37   a like the December's if you took most [TS]

00:52:40   of the character of the decemberists [TS]

00:52:41   away and just distilled it down to the [TS]

00:52:44   bits basic elements but these guys are [TS]

00:52:47   these guys are massive they're like [TS]

00:52:48   headlining really acid festivals and [TS]

00:52:52   inoculated won lots of awards their [TS]

00:52:55   English very big band i believe i [TS]

00:52:58   believe that they are friends with the [TS]

00:53:01   g's to also replaces G's which the [TS]

00:53:11   cheese okay I'm going to rei is that a [TS]

00:53:16   short name for says it could use special [TS]

00:53:19   son is that rapper the jeans like jwo [TS]

00:53:22   not Jeezy not little cheesy [TS]

00:53:24   ok you have nothing to do a little way [TS]

00:53:25   in the puppy pussy papi what's up and [TS]

00:53:27   the genes from the seamless well is the [TS]

00:53:31   in-laws like g apostrophe s no there's [TS]

00:53:34   no GM it je easy [TS]

00:53:37   geez that's not a band that sounds like [TS]

00:53:40   something out that like like Don [TS]

00:53:42   Kirshner will come up with for a cartoon [TS]

00:53:43   no no he is our Lord and favorite the g [TS]

00:53:47   alright they used to teach about him in [TS]

00:53:50   public school before they secularized [TS]

00:53:52   Christmas and turn it into a winter [TS]

00:53:54   holiday it's really confusing [TS]

00:53:57   ok I unlost don't you talking about i'm [TS]

00:53:59   completely confused I'm gonna look up to [TS]

00:54:01   Jesus got Frank careful careful careful [TS]

00:54:02   do not present ever tell you how to [TS]

00:54:04   pronounce unless you want to know what [TS]

00:54:06   is this is a life hack you want to know [TS]

00:54:08   that II [TS]

00:54:10   yeah yeah check it out here is that ok [TS]

00:54:11   here's the deal you got the diaeresis i [TS]

00:54:13   pronouncing that right muah muah [TS]

00:54:15   ok so you've got that over a letter ok [TS]

00:54:18   so that could be over almost any kind of [TS]

00:54:20   letter could be over you could be over [TS]

00:54:21   and I've never stood the end is near [TS]

00:54:23   think it's no I think you have to be [TS]

00:54:25   over a bowel right i mean you can't just [TS]

00:54:26   put in unless you're doing joke yeah [TS]

00:54:28   metal thing yes correct [TS]

00:54:30   okay seriously crew ok good example but [TS]

00:54:34   if in which i think that obviously [TS]

00:54:35   made-up one but now say the letter that [TS]

00:54:41   soon loaded looks it [TS]

00:54:45   you-you-you-you ok but now say it was [TS]

00:54:49   shaping your mouth the way you would say [TS]

00:54:50   an e you don't overthink it just do it [TS]

00:54:54   you have boom that's how you do it you [TS]

00:54:58   make it eat with your mouth but you say [TS]

00:54:59   the letter trying to eat with your mouth [TS]

00:55:01   and you say the letter so you Cee [TS]

00:55:03   announced that sau e-jets how you do it [TS]

00:55:07   that's a lie fact i should write a [TS]

00:55:09   fucking book [TS]

00:55:10   you sure you should go on the internet [TS]

00:55:12   do you like Bob Dylan I do like Bob [TS]

00:55:14   Dylan but here's here's there's always [TS]

00:55:16   Jesus there's always another city from [TS]

00:55:18   you use semi-colons at all not really [TS]

00:55:20   are you i love something so CII [TS]

00:55:22   everybody says Richard Hugo Hemingway [TS]

00:55:24   they also don't use some i love [TS]

00:55:26   semicolons use any problems getting it [TS]

00:55:27   makes my life is my life any sense of [TS]

00:55:29   order although you have to remember with [TS]

00:55:30   a semicolon not you can't just like [TS]

00:55:32   throw some sentence fragment on the [TS]

00:55:33   other side of a sentence colon and call [TS]

00:55:35   it good i think it's what i do i think I [TS]

00:55:38   literally do that literally there's kind [TS]

00:55:39   of a sentence fragments on there that's [TS]

00:55:40   the prob what about an em dash teasing I [TS]

00:55:42   really ever use em dashes to use em [TS]

00:55:44   dashes I like em dashes I you know one [TS]

00:55:46   of the things I've started doing is [TS]

00:55:47   using asterisk TSA's asked her eyes at [TS]

00:55:51   the french comic strip ski accidents no [TS]

00:55:54   excuse excuse excuse excuse an American [TS]

00:55:56   comic strip astrix is the is the Belgium [TS]

00:55:58   and this has nothing to do with rent an [TS]

00:56:00   no but I use astrix is because because [TS]

00:56:04   apparently it's some kind of HTML code [TS]

00:56:06   for bolt is a bold and italic you write [TS]

00:56:11   you a check your writing markdown look [TS]

00:56:13   at John I saw some how you use it to to [TS]

00:56:16   reference to 22 I i use it for a while [TS]

00:56:19   because there's no way to use italics [TS]

00:56:21   and you want to type in caps and then [TS]

00:56:23   after a while I just like it [TS]

00:56:24   I'm just like Oh doesn't dress it does [TS]

00:56:27   yeah it does but anyway here's the [TS]

00:56:29   problem with my thing about bobtailing [TS]

00:56:30   it's my problem with the thing about [TS]

00:56:32   everything you can [TS]

00:56:33   here's the thing about your problems is [TS]

00:56:35   signing I think it's not actually a [TS]

00:56:37   problem it's a problem that i have not [TS]

00:56:38   with Bob Dylan but with other people [TS]

00:56:40   which is that there are so many fans of [TS]

00:56:44   Bob Dylan the benchmark being a fan of [TS]

00:56:47   Bob Dylan is set so high people that [TS]

00:56:50   know every war on Bob Dylan's ass and I [TS]

00:56:54   don't care about anything that much I [TS]

00:56:56   don't give a fuck about anything as much [TS]

00:56:59   as somebody who's not even in the top [TS]

00:57:02   40th percentile of Bob Dylan fans you [TS]

00:57:05   know what I'm saying [TS]

00:57:06   so I I mean this constant I'm this [TS]

00:57:09   constant problem when people say are you [TS]

00:57:11   a fan of warrant reverter hurt sobbed [TS]

00:57:14   and I go yeah sure they're like Oh [TS]

00:57:16   remember that scene at the beginning of [TS]

00:57:18   the movie that no one's ever keep that [TS]

00:57:21   your fuse Nick I get it's like your [TS]

00:57:23   country and your refusenik it's it's [TS]

00:57:26   that I'm it's that i am here it is here [TS]

00:57:29   it is i'm going to say it in simple [TS]

00:57:31   words as possible okay i am not a fan [TS]

00:57:35   period it's not that I'm not a fan of [TS]

00:57:38   Bob Dylan it's not that I'm not a fan of [TS]

00:57:40   of of you know like totality arianism in [TS]

00:57:44   the in the nineteen thirties I'm just [TS]

00:57:46   not a fan [TS]

00:57:47   i'm not a fan of anything i am a i'm an [TS]

00:57:50   observer of things i'm an appreciator of [TS]

00:57:53   things but i do not my appreciation of [TS]

00:57:56   things never rises to the level of [TS]

00:57:58   fandom okay about anything except maybe [TS]

00:58:02   the causes of World War 1 i'm a fan of [TS]

00:58:07   talking about the causes the potential [TS]

00:58:09   causes of World War one who so i think [TS]

00:58:11   that's it the Scottish man and his [TS]

00:58:14   friend are certain and reference for any [TS]

00:58:16   man so that was in the Guffin it's so [TS]

00:58:19   far down the line of causes the world [TS]

00:58:20   exactly [TS]

00:58:21   okay what about the main MacGuffin with [TS]

00:58:24   her MacGuffin the main when they don't [TS]

00:58:26   think the man that was all that was all [TS]

00:58:28   fake [TS]

00:58:29   exactly it was nothing but it's like [TS]

00:58:31   it's like walking on the moon it didn't [TS]

00:58:32   happen [TS]

00:58:33   let me the main was just a quitter so [TS]

00:58:35   fucking hard i eating a fan of Bob Dylan [TS]

00:58:37   I'm just not a fan i'm not a fan of [TS]

00:58:39   anything except for the except for [TS]

00:58:41   talking about the cause of war [TS]

00:58:42   yelling about semantics you seem pretty [TS]

00:58:44   pretty tiny well technically fucking [TS]

00:58:46   thanks a lot of yelling it's around and [TS]

00:58:48   yelling about semantics help you at all [TS]

00:58:50   day and night I semiotic CD semiotic SAT [TS]

00:58:53   all your bars and half-and-half on [TS]

00:58:55   semiotic Nikki tell the difference [TS]

00:58:57   I'll house it i'll sit in a room and [TS]

00:58:59   talk about I used to sit in a room and [TS]

00:59:02   talk about guitars and amplifiers with [TS]

00:59:03   the guys that I thought were otherwise [TS]

00:59:06   boring but they could talk about guitars [TS]

00:59:08   and amplifiers but I don't do that [TS]

00:59:09   anymore [TS]

00:59:10   what else in my family you know one [TS]

00:59:13   thing i like about you [TS]

00:59:14   there's not a lot but I mean one thing [TS]

00:59:16   and I think I don't have to learn this [TS]

00:59:17   from you pick this up or just at the [TS]

00:59:19   point my life when I want to stop being [TS]

00:59:21   a dipshit but i think it's so [TS]

00:59:22   interesting that when I meet people who [TS]

00:59:24   are genuinely interesting and by [TS]

00:59:26   interesting I mean they express a [TS]

00:59:28   curiosity about other people and and [TS]

00:59:30   other ideas themselves is so much like [TS]

00:59:32   whenever you meet anybody you know you [TS]

00:59:34   talk about Neil Young and how obvious [TS]

00:59:36   reasons your kind of move [TS]

00:59:38   what do I say yeah and like us to talk [TS]

00:59:40   about model trains [TS]

00:59:41   yeah you know and this is my thing I it [TS]

00:59:43   took me years to learn this but and I [TS]

00:59:45   don't know enough to be useful for you [TS]

00:59:47   but when I meet people [TS]

00:59:48   this is actually true i mean people the [TS]

00:59:50   last thing the world I want to talk [TS]

00:59:51   about is me I talk about myself all the [TS]

00:59:53   time [TS]

00:59:53   I'm really good at it and probably [TS]

00:59:54   better than you are i would like to talk [TS]

00:59:56   about you talk to the driver thing this [TS]

00:59:59   is the taxi driver [TS]

00:59:59   is the taxi driver [TS]

01:00:00   problem you get into a car with a taxi [TS]

01:00:02   driving like one day real rain is going [TS]

01:00:03   to come and wash all the scum off the [TS]

01:00:04   streets [TS]

01:00:05   no no no not that well let's not get [TS]

01:00:08   into fandom let's talk about how you [TS]

01:00:11   like taxi drive your light your world [TS]

01:00:13   has gotten very small John the right [TS]

01:00:14   there you get into a cat on John's a [TS]

01:00:17   small world after all the guy the guy [TS]

01:00:19   macat the guy behind the steering wheel [TS]

01:00:21   is true [TS]

01:00:22   they're retreating or ethiopia and you [TS]

01:00:24   don't want to mix those two up you don't [TS]

01:00:26   know they are you the opians from online [TS]

01:00:28   from Eritrea vermont new hampshire [TS]

01:00:29   greece and turkey exactly you don't want [TS]

01:00:32   to screw around but but [TS]

01:00:33   so you start in the guys like oh you say [TS]

01:00:36   where you from any goes to retrain your [TS]

01:00:38   tray and Eritrea John in any case i'm a [TS]

01:00:42   stance you start asking him about oh [TS]

01:00:45   well were you there during the War I [TS]

01:00:47   mean how did you feel about haile [TS]

01:00:48   selassie etc etc and you realize all of [TS]

01:00:51   a sudden that this guy all day long all [TS]

01:00:55   he's doing is driving people around [TS]

01:00:57   he's told the story of how he feels [TS]

01:00:59   about higher velocity 1,000,000,000 [TS]

01:01:00   times he doesn't want to talk about [TS]

01:01:01   himself he wants to talk about you you [TS]

01:01:04   want to talk about the sports teams or [TS]

01:01:06   something [TS]

01:01:07   who is it you have the taxi driver [TS]

01:01:09   problem you don't talk about yourself [TS]

01:01:10   anymore i think you get to be 40 45 [TS]

01:01:12   years old and you've talked about [TS]

01:01:14   yourself enough you've told every story [TS]

01:01:15   100 million times who just not [TS]

01:01:18   interested in yourself anymore [TS]

01:01:21   yeah I think you can be i mean this any [TS]

01:01:24   less I know you're not fan and you're [TS]

01:01:25   not a fan of Mick Jagger or a fan of P [TS]

01:01:27   towns and then I but you know the two [TS]

01:01:29   classic examples hope I die before I get [TS]

01:01:30   old not you know and somebody calculated [TS]

01:01:34   you know how many times Mick Jagger has [TS]

01:01:35   song like satisfaction [TS]

01:01:37   yeah which is a really good song its [TS]

01:01:39   realy terribly terribly overrated song [TS]

01:01:41   even first down song it's a good song [TS]

01:01:43   it's it's not nearly as good as rocks [TS]

01:01:46   off like that a lot of songs that I [TS]

01:01:48   prefer you know I know how to play [TS]

01:01:51   exactly one stone drifted ever tell you [TS]

01:01:52   that you play smoke on the water who um [TS]

01:01:55   which one which version live version by [TS]

01:01:59   travelpod member [TS]

01:02:01   where am i exactly one stone and refine [TS]

01:02:03   oh yeah that's exactly one week but if [TS]

01:02:10   you know that you're pretty much set [TS]

01:02:13   I top where [TS]

01:02:16   that's a pattern also not a report on to [TS]

01:02:21   be good okay uh not you know there is no [TS]

01:02:26   no do you think the challenge your [TS]

01:02:28   psycho [TS]

01:02:29   no I was just I was gonna pick up with [TS]

01:02:30   no I'm not you know I'm kind of fucked [TS]

01:02:32   up today I changed a few things around [TS]

01:02:35   I had some leftover chili main and some [TS]

01:02:38   mineral water some things around huh [TS]

01:02:40   and some noodle water no I'm Simon's [TS]

01:02:43   gonna get chinese neighborhood for too [TS]

01:02:44   long if you're drinking doodle water [TS]

01:02:46   well I think that's just ping-pong talk [TS]

01:02:48   i had some leftover Charmayne and [TS]

01:02:53   additional point to this [TS]

01:02:54   i I'm so angry about so many things [TS]

01:02:56   right now so i want to turn that into my [TS]

01:02:58   club now Mike love ya you really want to [TS]

01:03:02   talk about Michael of God he's such a [TS]

01:03:03   nub [TS]

01:03:04   I don't even know what I mean the thing [TS]

01:03:06   is an anus in the butt of life [TS]

01:03:09   ok but here's the thing there's a [TS]

01:03:11   certain kind of like inert second guy [TS]

01:03:13   we've talked about this right there's [TS]

01:03:15   the inert other guy [TS]

01:03:16   yeah right like a you know John Oates [TS]

01:03:19   made his contributions [TS]

01:03:20   absolutely Andrew originally I'm sure [TS]

01:03:22   and religious originally had notes that [TS]

01:03:24   hello Andrew Ridgely is married to the [TS]

01:03:26   foxy one from Bananarama why do that [TS]

01:03:29   what and they live enough they live on a [TS]

01:03:32   farm in southern England then they just [TS]

01:03:34   like milk the chickens or whatever [TS]

01:03:37   people do on it yes [TS]

01:03:38   chicken clucking and it's andrew [TS]

01:03:40   ridgeley and the Fox you want from [TS]

01:03:41   Bananarama machinery got the she got the [TS]

01:03:44   wrong one [TS]

01:03:44   well I mean if you're gonna marry one [TS]

01:03:47   guy from Wham [TS]

01:03:49   yes and it makes your girl your girl and [TS]

01:03:51   you want to marry one guy from where am [TS]

01:03:53   I think you picked the right that's the [TS]

01:03:54   engine that will turn over and he's also [TS]

01:03:56   i mean i-i don't know like what his [TS]

01:03:59   publishing arrangement was with when but [TS]

01:04:01   i think he got some songwriting credits [TS]

01:04:02   on some of that stuff even I went the [TS]

01:04:04   lamb records [TS]

01:04:05   yeah i think she'll sell to I bet they [TS]

01:04:08   do I back together compilations about [TS]

01:04:10   some of those Bananarama records so [TS]

01:04:12   alright and some other good i think [TS]

01:04:14   they're just they just they milked the [TS]

01:04:16   chickens and then they drive real fast [TS]

01:04:18   on those rules don't get off track but [TS]

01:04:20   ever thought how things might change if [TS]

01:04:22   you hook up a stock Aitken Waterman have [TS]

01:04:24   you thought about that all have you [TS]

01:04:25   thought about other producers i'm not [TS]

01:04:26   talking about i understand is what I [TS]

01:04:28   felt right to speak [TS]

01:04:29   you don't talk about the bouquet you [TS]

01:04:31   find these guys [TS]

01:04:32   somebody not very long ago that Cameron [TS]

01:04:34   Crowe was a fan of the long winters [TS]

01:04:36   Wow and this is one of those impossible [TS]

01:04:39   to bury my and he's the one who did say [TS]

01:04:40   anything with a nice kind of my band [TS]

01:04:42   with a song about that's right that's [TS]

01:04:43   correct [TS]

01:04:44   thank you i can't i can't call Cameron [TS]

01:04:47   Crowe i'm not even going to tweet [TS]

01:04:48   cameron crowe and say hey how's it going [TS]

01:04:51   man mixtape that mixtape movie i'll [TS]

01:04:52   probably come up and it's gonna be [TS]

01:04:53   awkward at him was at him or large front [TS]

01:04:56   rear who made that terrible movie I [TS]

01:04:57   don't think it was I don't think he made [TS]

01:04:58   the mixed in cameron crowe but uh but [TS]

01:05:01   but a but it's one of those things where [TS]

01:05:03   can I and he just made up of you that I [TS]

01:05:04   haven't seen yet for maybe won't see but [TS]

01:05:06   but I clamor here was a jump in here [TS]

01:05:09   from it's one of those things you hear [TS]

01:05:11   it in the bin there he heard through the [TS]

01:05:13   grapevine in the entertainers word on [TS]

01:05:15   the street is where i was driving camera [TS]

01:05:17   cronies a big fan of your music you know [TS]

01:05:19   a song [TS]

01:05:20   not all black music like not just song [TS]

01:05:22   but he like has the knows he knows the [TS]

01:05:25   records down because you know he was [TS]

01:05:28   married to an esky no wait I know this [TS]

01:05:31   heart and and wilson from hard nipples [TS]

01:05:34   man feeling some out women always Nancy [TS]

01:05:36   Nancy is the one like Bananarama girl or [TS]

01:05:38   the skinny one from Wilson Phillips [TS]

01:05:40   right just good one she's the good one [TS]

01:05:44   well although i think that Ann Wilson [TS]

01:05:46   down a very talent is very talented and [TS]

01:05:49   also frankly if but it if you took me [TS]

01:05:52   back to nineteen seventy-six and asked [TS]

01:05:54   me which one I would pick it would it [TS]

01:05:56   would finally found something [TS]

01:05:57   interesting to talk about its [TS]

01:05:59   everybody's gonna save it for the each [TS]

01:06:00   other way Wilson Phillips to I don't [TS]

01:06:03   like the skinny girls John this is gonna [TS]

01:06:06   be perfect this is gonna work out great [TS]

01:06:08   but speaking of Wilson's what I don't [TS]

01:06:11   like Sheryl Crow there's nothing about [TS]

01:06:13   truck was she ever married a camera crew [TS]

01:06:15   at all [TS]

01:06:15   no that would be weird she just she just [TS]

01:06:19   take Annie often that you know in some [TS]

01:06:22   cultures put me under your name you're [TS]

01:06:24   married by counting crows like getting [TS]

01:06:27   close now I heard them in the dentist's [TS]

01:06:28   office so here's the thing i know about [TS]

01:06:29   you John Roderick is that you uh like [TS]

01:06:32   your relationship with jon wurster [TS]

01:06:33   you're not gonna acknowledge the person [TS]

01:06:35   you keep a distance you have a less lie [TS]

01:06:37   out of the corner not unlike the way you [TS]

01:06:38   look at an alien the mirror may not be [TS]

01:06:40   there slide glance you [TS]

01:06:42   not gonna go running you're gonna email [TS]

01:06:43   cameron crowe no okay so what do you [TS]

01:06:48   wait wasn't us Laura it's got to be up [TS]

01:06:51   to him you gonna do you make off those [TS]

01:06:53   deals i dunno i would why would love it [TS]

01:06:56   if camera car would put along but [TS]

01:06:58   there's a lot of people i was that [TS]

01:06:59   somebody who was it somebody interesting [TS]

01:07:01   had a song on you know was nick lowe [TS]

01:07:04   nick lowe had a song on the bodyguard [TS]

01:07:06   soundtrack Niccolo oh god that made him [TS]

01:07:09   a blow that thing this is and if you go [TS]

01:07:11   read is such an interesting guy and [TS]

01:07:13   reading about him today he has chosen to [TS]

01:07:15   do like three dimensions of himself or [TS]

01:07:18   at least you know just a couple big ones [TS]

01:07:20   yeah and he's made a big deal about it [TS]

01:07:21   because he's pretty comfortable just [TS]

01:07:23   from the fucking body parts proposes had [TS]

01:07:25   a song on the the English teeth movie [TS]

01:07:29   The what's-his-name national powers [TS]

01:07:32   right accent power I don't think they [TS]

01:07:34   had a song on that but they had a song [TS]

01:07:37   on reality bites that is pretty well [TS]

01:07:40   they still get crazy checks were kind of [TS]

01:07:42   looking around song golden slumbers I [TS]

01:07:45   don't know Paul opposing muscles on the [TS]

01:07:47   sluggers all the numbers we think that [TS]

01:07:49   first record you like you're 23 I do [TS]

01:07:52   like it by you know that my relationship [TS]

01:07:53   with proposes that I add that both guys [TS]

01:07:56   are great singers and both are great [TS]

01:07:57   songwriters but they saying they saying [TS]

01:08:01   constantly on each other songs so that [TS]

01:08:03   it was a condition of like they were to [TS]

01:08:07   co-lead singers all the time it sounded [TS]

01:08:09   like sometimes and I i actually like [TS]

01:08:11   this in some songs I like this on some [TS]

01:08:13   of the frosting on the beater tracks but [TS]

01:08:15   sometimes it sounds like they have a [TS]

01:08:16   really bats they're not getting anything [TS]

01:08:18   in the wedges on stage and they don't [TS]

01:08:20   realize how much louder they're singing [TS]

01:08:22   in the other person i think what it is [TS]

01:08:23   is that they're each taking really [TS]

01:08:25   interesting harmonies off of the other [TS]

01:08:27   guy and that it's a hit the that [TS]

01:08:29   basically the two vocal parts are [TS]

01:08:31   summing each other and it just sounds [TS]

01:08:34   like now we can easily cancel each other [TS]

01:08:38   out i gotta cancel each other out [TS]

01:08:39   because one guy goes up the other guy [TS]

01:08:41   goes down this is like ken stringfellow [TS]

01:08:43   is great at finding the conventional [TS]

01:08:44   harmonies but then like there's that one [TS]

01:08:46   live record in France and I heard it [TS]

01:08:48   there were that they do like I think if [TS]

01:08:50   you surrender no one live poses record [TS]

01:08:52   from France not you're not a fan [TS]

01:08:55   ended up know something i'm not a fan [TS]

01:08:57   it's that I got a fan not it's not that [TS]

01:09:02   around presenting asterisks not a fan [TS]

01:09:04   it's i'm not a fan in asterix this is [TS]

01:09:06   hears the prayer it is i'm gonna break [TS]

01:09:08   it down for you guys ready for this [TS]

01:09:10   we're gonna get to make love or backward [TS]

01:09:11   sorry well we can it will just put those [TS]

01:09:13   in the hay the three by five card file [TS]

01:09:16   here's the thing when when we were kids [TS]

01:09:22   this is about the ghost look you [TS]

01:09:28   understand me know [TS]

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