00:00:01 ◼ ► after-show it's not really because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► moaning about his expensive car it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► gonna keep it in and people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► like it and that the water to people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► don't like it have long since stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/12">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► alright so people have suggested that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/16">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► this phantom version of the mac which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/20">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► includes an arm coprocessor if you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► maybe that's used for power nap i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► skeptical that would be a reasonable use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/30">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► case but be that as it may their people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/31">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► there's something in the playstation 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/36">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► people apparently play video games with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► I didn't realize that was still thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/42">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► but anyway it has a rest mode that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/43">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► yeah so this is the last show we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/47">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► talking about the arm CPU actually being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/50">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► able to function and do useful work when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► the intel cpus off which would mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► the arm CPU would need access to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► same stuff you know all the i/o and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/59">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► regardless of what software runs rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► runs just you know a bunch of apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► software that Apple supplies as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► the OS or other third parties can ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/70">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► arm compiled binaries to it that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► would be a full fledge cpu able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/73">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► useful work and I was saying how that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/76">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► pretty complicated if the only benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► you're getting out of it is we can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► power nap on the arm CPU instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/84">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► intel cpu and it remains to be seen if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► they win the next involved we have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/91">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► more suggestions of things this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/92">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► can do to justify that complexity but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► the ps4 is actually an example of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/95">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► actual thing in practice because ps4 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► an x86 cpu and when you put into rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/102">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► mode it's basically like the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► turned off the fans are often everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► it doesn't make any noise just sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/110">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► there but it's not completely off off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► and what it does in this mode is it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► like download update giant updates your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► games it will charge your controllers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► ubel and do other sort of background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► tasks that don't require to be on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► still mean it's doing useful work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► will do obviously with downloading is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/128">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► using stuff over the network and in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► it's according to this feedback we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► gotten much i'm i'm perfectly willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► believe I haven't looked into it huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► extensively it's not using the Intel CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► is using a separate arm chip just to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► this stuff and that's an example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/144">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► next day 26 and arm CPU in a box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► when the the x86 CPU is turned off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► arm CPU is able to do all that stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► able to do you know manipulate stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/156">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► networking is able to do all the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/160">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► know things and that is an additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► complexity that is worth it for the ps4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► because it is fixing all the sins of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► ps3 that every time you want to turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► thing on and play a game you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► download 50 update since I want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/173">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► do that for 12 hours i wasn't home ps3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► wouldn't even charge your controllers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► when it was turned off the ps3 you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► them in you know like I'm playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/180">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► game like the worst so the ps4 fixes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► this and so it's an obvious one on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► console and it's you know it's down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► the instructions that exactly what a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► they were talking about for this rumored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► apple laptop question remains is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► additional complexity and i'm sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► additional complexity worthwhile for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► mac and so we had one of the suggestion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► for something that the arm CPU could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► that is useful that doesn't require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/206">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► extensions that with armed code compiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/211">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► to it and ship it off there and you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► David Barton ski suggested good old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► photos and face recognition in her like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/219">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► when you first get your mac or at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/222">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► point like we're wandering over your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► photos finding all the faces do it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/225">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► doing the image recognition nowadays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► like figure out everything that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► house or whatever so you can do searches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► later that would be perfect thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► when your mac is in rest mode or asleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► or whatever and it will require maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► networking access depending on how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► recognition but certainly would require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► disk access is that worth the added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► complexity of making a mac that can run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► either on an x86 CPU or arms if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► depending on Moton maybe after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► first of all the photo recognition thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► like I hope they fix that in this fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► software updates like make that sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► already everything else about photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► like the fact that every device has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► do that is not only a terrible hack with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► awkward results sometimes but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/270">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► performance of the computers & ipad iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► devices for the first like three days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► that you get them and that is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/282">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► just a bad initial user experience for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► everybody but somebody's gotta do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► like I know people might have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► devices but one one of the devices has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► to do it and that device is the victim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► no matter it's great that will be shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► like all just you know but i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/295">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► would imagine for a lot of people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► the phone would be the victim because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► that's where they take the pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► thinking on their my ayaat I feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► that any device has to be subject to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► this I mean the only they could change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► change the policy by saying we won't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► a image recognition unless nobody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/313">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► using the computer nobody's using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► device and it's plugged in like this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/319">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► only do it when you're sleeping and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► plugged in all that they already attempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► to do that and like it does it it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► stop when you are unplugged on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► laptops most of the time however its it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► takes forever to the point where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► you never know when you plug in like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/335">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► it has been the fan up and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► unplug it like how long will it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► before it pauses and use the discrete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► GPU with exaggerated any kind of GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/342">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► it's it's just kind of a mess on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► even worse than like your phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► really hot for the first while that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► have any likewise my phone so how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► something wrong with it is gonna catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/352">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► fire like eh it's just really in elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► and and really sets up very bad user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► experiences for anybody who's setting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► and iOS Mac device that isn't their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► and that's they really really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► address that in this year's updates like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/366">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► yeah so i'm not sure would be better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/370">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► wall here while I was asleep because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► obviously will take away longer to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► was sleeping i really only Apple knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► for sure but like what are the usage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► patterns for devices that are plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/384">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► not iOS devices because they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► never asleep awake like when the screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► off basically that's a no sleep like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/393">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► when they're plugged in overnight in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/394">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► charging that's when they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► doing the photo stuff it that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► from max I don't know the defaults are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► but i imagine if you walk away from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► Mac it will be on for some period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► time and then I think the default is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► go to sleep after like not that long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► time and if you can't do any photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► recognition stuff in the background and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► sleep mode normally like a power nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► doesn't do any of it now that's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► the time so all the only time your mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► has to do photos is when it unattended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► is like the one hour between when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► stop using it and when it goes to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► according to the default energy saver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► whereas it could have had 12 hours just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► plinking away with his little arm CPU so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/433">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► maybe that would help a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/434">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► again i have to you know the complexity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► of having a second full-fledged cpu with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/438">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► access to all the same things as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► intel cpu is significant and i'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► so far i'm still on the page that a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/444">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► auxiliary functions that have to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/450">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► proximity sensor camera microphone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► know sort of like a a glorified m1 m1 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► m7 what was that the original motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► detecting step counting thing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/464">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► still we're going to be a BMW on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/468">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► the 1m because the m1 was a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► different car anyway yeah huh yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/474">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► having dedicated hardware / functions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► related to the hardware and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► perfect for a little CPU and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► reason we're talking about this at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► this is already there to run the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/487">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► bar it's like it's already there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► you're just saying how can I get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► bang for my buck from this thing that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/491">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► already have to put it's not like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► looking through a bunch of new chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► into think it's already in these this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/496">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► version or version after that of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► they'll find new things to do is ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/505">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► they should because they're paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/506">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► the chip and it's there and when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► not doing anything fancy on-screen give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► it something else to do they have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► have they have good arm chips and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/513">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► have a good Oster on them so why waste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/514">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► speaking of face recognition windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/518">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► whatever that may be does some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► weird and fancy stuff with their face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► face-recognition not being good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► security because that will just print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► out a picture face and holds it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► and they unlock your laptop didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► specifically say that that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/536">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► vulnerability of windows hello because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/537">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► they didn't know much about it but many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► people wrote in to say that windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► hello actually uses depth maps too so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/541">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► you can just hold up a picture because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► want something that not only looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/546">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► your face but is contoured and shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► like your face so people would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/549">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► make a basically a mannequin of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► face instead of just a picture which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► harder and interfaces vs fingerprints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/555">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► think a lot of people bring up like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► fingerprints like people can lift your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► I feel like it's still look at the apt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► exploit local exploits like this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► physical access your computer in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► cases game over as far as security for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/574">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► variety of reasons for fingerprints they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► need to have physical access to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/580">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► you or something you've touched to list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► your fingerprints and there's been many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► demonstrations the web like how you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► love someone fingerprint you can unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► fingerprints just series of ridges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/588">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► we can get them out and make a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► plastic mold of it and you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/590">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► usually you can't get fingerprints from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► a normal photo of people like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► walking down the street and someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► they can't lift your fingerprints from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/601">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► anything you've touched a resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/608">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► where they can lift your fingerprints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► but for most people you can find plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► of pictures of their face and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/613">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► fairly that not easily but much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► easily remotely without ever being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► anywhere near that person or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/622">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► they've touched reproduce their face in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► the 3d manner from a series of photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► that are taking out all under different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► angles and make it use a 3d printer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► make a little mold and then print out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► picture that face and slap it on to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► mannequin and it should rule the depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► sensors and fools the the camera and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/638">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► unlock their saying with their face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/641">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► again this is kind of like mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► impossible whatever stuff if someone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► this determined to attack you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► probably much better just to call you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► until and tell you there for microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► and they want to reset your password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/652">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► because that's much easier way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► into stuff but thinking about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► how easy it is to pull your fingerprints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► vs make a 3d model of your face versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► whatever has reminded me once again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► of the trouble we'll all biometric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► security which we all be seen like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► sci-fi movies they always put their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► hands on things are doing retina scans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► or where you know we're living in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/674">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► future now with fingerprints i use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► fingerprint to unlock my phone all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► time I love it's awesome but the trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► with all biometrics is if they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► compromised in any way if people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► your fingerprints or have a nice 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► model of your face you can't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► those things you can't say well i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/692">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► gonna use a new set of fingerprints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/693">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► always rotate your fingerprints don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► use the same fingerprints and multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► your fingerprints are your fingerprints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► and for the most part your face is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► face so once compromise their compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► you can't use your fingerprint in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► whole world has hi-res images of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► your fingerprints are useless never mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► that this country anyway law enforcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► can make you put your stupid thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/712">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► the thing anyway but just in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► biometrics there unlike passwords that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/715">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► you can change the rotator whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► can't change them even your retinas if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► you do a retina skin and someone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► like a detailed map of your retina makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► a little thing I've all of the retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/725">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► scan it you can't use retina scans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/726">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► commonplace it's the definition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► repeating your password you only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/733">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► ten fingers right getting able with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► different finger on each secure thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► and yeah so internal biometrics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► great convenience but if we get in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► sci-fi movies are you anyway they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► presented as a much more secure way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► how you can't get in because you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► have my eyeball my finger and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/750">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► didn't take long for the movies to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► to shift into gouging people's eyeballs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► out and cutting off their hands to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► there's another downside of biometrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/757">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► settling in to be the casual convenience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► feature is the reason i unlock my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► with it because who wants to type in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/766">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► some big long password every time your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► unlock your phone but not for increased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► security very security we're still stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/772">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► with for now big giant passwords and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► multiple factors i love that ripping out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► somebody's eyes and cutting off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► fingers is is described by you john is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► downside i mean it is it's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/786">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► significant downside my book though no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► one's gonna do that unless you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► year ago you know a sci-fi movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► crap and again it's not there much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/797">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► easier ways to get your crap like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► forcing you to put your finger on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/800">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► because you're not a big tough guy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/801">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► in the movies to get into your villains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► lair that you know you cut off the guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► hand cut off the entrance and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► just showed on the panel didn't uh Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► Cruise's character do that Minority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► Report you got two eyes been done so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/814">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► many times so many times we are brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/815">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► discovering and using the best apps for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► your mac what if there's a way to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► that every app you installed was safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► quality that is what set appt is here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► do that was developed by Mac paw they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► actually been previous sponsoring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/835">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► successful apps for the mac they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► mapped developers themselves for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► and they know the market really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► they know what customers want and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► know what developers want developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► want a way to make consistent stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► revenue from their products without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/854">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► having to mess with the complexity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► things like upgrade pricing and trials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► and everything else and customers want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► to know that they can go to a storefront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► or a collection that has the best apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► they can they don't have to like worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► through million reviews and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► figure out which apps have hidden in app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/872">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► purchases or ads or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► they just want someone else to pick for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► them to curate this collection for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/877">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► to give them what's best mac Paul has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► done this with set appt setup gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/881">TS</a>]
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00:14:58 ◼ ► access to the entire library no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► how many apps use you can use all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/900">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► them if you want to and you just pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/901">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► library of prime mac apps that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► for one fixed rate per month with no ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► no paid upgrades when a new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► comes out you just get it did give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► the best collection of helpful useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► high-quality mac software right at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► fingertips try today at set app.com once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/919">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► again that set appt setiap set app.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/923">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► thank you very much to set up for spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/929">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► during our show ah alright so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/930">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► been a little bit of a sort of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► back and forth between our show and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► host across to other shows which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► friend of the show my curly he is talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/946">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► on his to podcast upgrade and connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/950">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► arguments about whether or not the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► is worth apples attention and you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► should listen to both upgrade connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► in wealth in general but particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► the latest episodes will put links in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► the show notes i'm going to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/967">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► unfairly summarize Mike's points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/971">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► yeah and hen Marco can add his two cents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► I what I got from what Mike said was hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► if you look at modern iPads and modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/985">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► max where you define modern slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► arbitrarily but basically can run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► most recent versions of iOS and mac OS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/995">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► don't remember the exact numbers but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► know modern max by that definition go go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► back like between five and ten years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► modern iPads go back i think around five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► years something like that the particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► numbers don't really matter that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► the conclusion that my came to was hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► if you look at the sales and thus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► assumed install base of modern max and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► modern iOS devices are excuse me iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► there like twice as many ipads as there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► are max so if there's that many ipads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► shouldn't that be where Apple puts most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► of its attention because presumably all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► of these ipads are still in use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► presumably at least a subset of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► owners your ipad owners are using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► for and I'm doing scare quotes here work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► stuff so shouldn't that be where Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► puts all of its attention maybe not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► but a lot of its attention and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► super super super summarized version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► again listen to connected and upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► actually the reverse order listen okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► first but anyway list of them to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► students but that that's kind of what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► got from it is that fair to say yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► think so I mean and this was this was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► response to what a lot of people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► talking about after the earnings came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► out what do we do now about about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► ipad sales continue to drop and many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► people commented on this with theories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► myself included both on my blog and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► we talked about on the show last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► and you know many many people at every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► time there's quarterly earnings that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► come out and it shows the ipad sales are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► going down which happened a lot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► last few years everyone has these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► theories about well here's why the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► has failed his failing or you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► real work on honor or whatever else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► so if you are an ipad pro heavy user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► like Mike and Federico and and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► other friends are then this makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► to be defensive about because it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► arguments into like individual things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► talk about a lot of times people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► arguing past each other because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► argument was or they're responding more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► to a general feeling or to a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► kind of trend of where the commentary is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► or has been rather than what somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► actually trying to figure out there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► there's nuance to all this stuff so part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► of what Mike and Jason on upgrade were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► responding to was not just what we said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► but i think a lot of it was based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► awesome what we said and what i wrote my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► blog post about what if the ipod is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► the future of computing and and so I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► want to address this so hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► briefly here and I'm actually I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► working with Mike we actually might do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► little special with me and Mike arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► about it and maybe next week sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► will do i get not to get to participate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► who says I'm right about everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► guys at argue about which one who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► all who will have another these episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► but it seems like it was like mike vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► Marco but like I said stuff to didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► anyone disagree with stuff I said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► had hit you don't worry I you and I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► kind of lumped in together anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► yeah that's right haha i do that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► anyway so here's here's my actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► position here obviously people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► getting real worked on ipads not every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► not every mac is sold and used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► quote real work whatever that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► Mike's main point was was also that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► know the ipad obviously even even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► the downward slope of its sales curve is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► still selling like two two-and-a-half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► times unit sales of what max you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► selling and and there are still way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► ipads out there then max and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► therefore this is this really is your a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► serious platform and I'm not arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► against any of that actually my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► argument with with my post and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► if I express a property last week is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► that the ipad is presented in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► views both from apple and from analysts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► computing and what I interpret that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► mean is a replacement ultimately or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► largely a replacement for the pc in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► back but were mostly seeing is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► know pcs of them have been a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► contracting for a while but mac sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► have been pretty solid the rise of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► ipad / it's been seven years now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► it's been popular the whole time so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► selling a lot the ipad selling a lot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► during that entire arise sales of Max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► haven't gone down so if the ipad were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► really like the future of computing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► quotes and found doing finger quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► here sorry in hit in the way that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► means replacing pcs and macs for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► of people i think the numbers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► showing otherwise that I'm and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► made the case last week that for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► of people if you're going to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► between only being able to afford only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► wanting to own either and ipad or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► they're still picking the computer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► think the sale show that and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► lots of reasons as we get into last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► about why that might be you know things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► about things like the limitations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► doing things in the ipad and and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► many limitations you have there versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► the what limitations intend to be on PCs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► and and you know different usability and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► everything we know we are getting better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► so I'm not going to repeat the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► thing all this is not to say that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► to get worked on an iPad or the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► I never said that there is this is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► all not to say that nobody is replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► their their pc or mac with an ipad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► didn't say that either but i think very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► clearly my argument my argument here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► my argument is that on a large scale it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► replacing pcs and the windows world is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► little bit Messier because the cans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► combo things but on the apple site i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► think it's very very clear that the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► is not replacing the mac it seems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► most people who buy the ipad are buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► it as the third device however they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► ordered in their minds they still have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► phone and a computer and the ipad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► added to that mix again not everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► not all I've had but this is added to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► the mix for so many people and so while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► everyone can name someone who who got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► ipad and doesn't use the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► a lot of people also use computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► don't buy iPads so I think the sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► reflect the reality here the ipad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► so many things in technology has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► destroyed what came before it is added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► to it and so in a world where it is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► of many devices that people used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► computing on as opposed to the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► that is replacing the computer I worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► about the direction that Apple is taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► between the the mac and the iPad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► it sure looks like apples point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► and able to look into this crazy flasher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► rumor in a little bit but it sure looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► like for the most part we see from apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► is that the mac is kind of like i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► maintenance mode it seems like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► not really putting a lot of like a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► effort into like moving the mac paradigm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► forward it seems like they they consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► the mac basically done and they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► fairly minor things to it touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► hardware engineering side yes okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► the software model seems like it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► fairly minor and not seeing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► meaningful changes are or engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► effort put into it could be wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► this is what we're seeing me outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► whereas the ipad if that if that were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► be the future of computing than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► which that needs more investment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► we're seeing instead is that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► neglecting both of these plans but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► that's a story for another day I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► but a text I just wanted to clarify my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► argument this is not that the ipad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► useless or dead or not possible to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► worked on simply that it is showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► itself through sales to be in reality a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► third device for a lot of people and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► not be replacing the back while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► talking about that I was thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► often comment i think was the last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► that apple doesn't make bestbest anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► and thinking about mac sales now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► they're declining but as as the mac has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► become over many years proportionately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► less of what apple sells mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► the iphone honestly you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► they saw brazilian iphones right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► even though the ipad has pointed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► that sells as much or more than the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► these days at to go back to our favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► well the good old car analogy in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► world if you sell a small number of cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► and you are a going concern in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► chances are good that the small number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► of cars you sell our extreme in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► no one sells a small number of Toyota [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► Camrys but you can't run a car business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► by selling 5,000 Toyota Camrys a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► that's not a thing right but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► sell 5,000 Ferraris a year and be ok you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► can sell 5,000 Humvees maybe and be okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► or that's a bad example this GM but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► anyway if you sell in small volume you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► specialize and very often you charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► tons of money like way out of proportion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► to the quality of the car you're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► let's maybe that's not true these days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► know they're better anyway if the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► again not low volume proportionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► lower volume if the mac becomes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► minor player in the world of the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► which is the toyota camry right and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► maybe even the ipads is selling more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► than it uh you know ongoing basis that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► would be the perfect time for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► look at that lines they will who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► still buying max why would someone want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► and I've had all that they have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► demanding me the more sophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► tasks go back to the old world apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► which was perfectly willing to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► machine that we could be configured with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► ridiculous number of the most expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► cpu's with a very large hard drive in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► overcharged for all of it that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► whole help away chart make a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► that i had can configure to be as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► as an apple watch edition like should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► able to configure you used to even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► twenty-thousand-dollar Mac it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► worth that much money it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► overpriced in the same way that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► Ferrari is not worth that much more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► a Corvette that has almost the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► performance but for people in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► markets whether it's because you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► the absolute biggest best and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► willing to pay for it like it's a blip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► on your radar or just because you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► Ferrari because you think it's cool as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► your volumes get lower proportion the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► rest of your business that becomes a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► to extract more money from this product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► line and so it seems that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► losing interest in the matter i wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► they would have enough interest to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► can we release those people because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► this point like I'm I'm begging to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► you know like how have you priced out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► touch bar macbook pro x and yeah I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► I know like minutes that's going to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► like it's still it's still within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► realm of reason like you can't even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► with 32 gigs ram right like and and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► there are people who have those demands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► like there's nowhere to go in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► macworld for them and take regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► how we're going to draw the line between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► where is the line between people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► really need a personal computer style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► thing and people who need an ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► people just need a phone like it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► continuum there but at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► like we all agree that the mac is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► that one end of that spectrum right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► not no one's arguing like the mac is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► something it is one end of that spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► you just need to extend that line out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► and make sure that if someone is forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► into a mac or has to use a mac because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► of their work that they can go all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► way up and you know because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► low-volume relative the phone market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► charge tons of money gets super high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► margins maybe maybe less into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► five-hundred-dollar increases on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► your laptop model which is more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► mainstream thing and just all that money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► into i don't know like a like a Mac it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► for professionals like you can shorten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► the name but whatever i know we're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► circles here but i was just the sad part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► is they have been doing that to the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► pro every mac pro generation is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► expensive than the last one I know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► then we're going to give you want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► be using it right a nice little is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► properties i know but like it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► like it's frustrating when at any price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► you you can't throw your money at apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► and say just give me as much ram as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► physically fit in the machine because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► i'm doing some weird application that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► don't care how much it costs like nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► not not interested in selling you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► and you should be because it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► way to make money off suckers like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► and also a judge to bring back a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► bit just to the ipad discussion i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► want to also mention a great post that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► our friend David Sparkes made over at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► max Sparky about you know his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► interpretation he is also a very like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► ipad pro user and his interpretation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► basically of trying to explain away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► ipad sales dip is in short home some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► reason is accurately in short that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► basically it most people aren't pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► the idea ipad harlot that's why so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► people are are able to eat people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► decided to to make the ipad a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► their life or part of their workflow or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► they're still perfectly ok using like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► four-year-old ipad and the main reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► why it that he's saying which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► is right on is that they're just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► pushing it hard enough because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► because what people do on ipads what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► software does what is possible to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► well on it is usually pretty light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► workload kind of stuff but it isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► hardware is not getting better the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► harbor is getting way better but which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► is what most people are doing the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► doesn't need better hardware and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► the the blame for that and do to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► that or try to push that forward mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► and apple because a lot of that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► structured and various limitations a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► of it has to do with the app ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► which is all too much that is on Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► to to try to fix or or to enable fix us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► we've seen this theme from a lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► lot of ipad users responses over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► last two weeks to this people love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► ipad people want to use it for more they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► want to be able to be able to do more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► their work on if they can't currently do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► all that on that but iOS needs to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► forward in a way that lets people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► more work more efficiently I mean there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► are so many really basic things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► that we consider basic format the PC era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► of just things like you know managing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► like multiple emails and attachments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► you know it's like moving photos around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► the document around like things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► very hostile to do in iOS that are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► clunky or some or sometimes even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► impossible without crazy you know Jax or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► sometimes just outright impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► simple stuff like moving like moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► media around and get dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► people's files like iOS really fights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► implementation now is very limited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► could really use some enhancement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► weather that's coming down the road this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► year not we'll see i hope it does but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► the point is there's still tons of room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► to improve iOS and the ipad and I I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► Apple tries to do that in some way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► because tons of people want that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► just seems like it seems like regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► of which side of the future of computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► you fall on what do you think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► ipad or the mac it seems like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► neglecting your platform either way I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► hope Apple cares enough about the food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► the actual future computing to invest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► very heavily at least one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► platforms because it seems right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► that the mac is in maintenance mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► occasional updates from from iOS when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/1955">TS</a>]
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00:33:54 ◼ ► the ipads like people keep using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► because it still does what they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► do even though they could buy a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► better one I think is another situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► where Apple probably has data about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► actually there's two things that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► you the 22 things that come to mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► immediately that make you buy a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► whatever one is the usual tractor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► software basically if you have a vibrant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► software ecosystem eventually your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► phone doesn't run the cool new app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► all your friends are talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► so the more the more vibrant ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► is the more apps take advantage of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► hardware or being dragged along by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► platform by like not supporting 32-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► apps anymore whatever you know the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► that is a thing it will make you say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► I don't like my phone anymore because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► all my friends are using a pecs and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► can't use that because it says doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► run on my phone or something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► so software ecosystem which again is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► lacking on the ipad like there's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► that on the phone in there isn't on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► ipad in terms of social pressure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► software you know action in the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► market to put it along and the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2098">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► one and this is where Apple have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► data is how many people replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► I see a lot of broken phones and I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► fewer broken ipad i do see cracked iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► you see them in airports and stuff but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► also see kids in airports with iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► dropping them like they're a juice box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► and his boundless in the giant robbery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► alright so i'm going to say probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► percentage-wise phones and their lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► because they break more often than iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► just based on my personal experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► anatoly but again Applewood know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► they probably in all the servers say why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► it seems to me that those two tractors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► are making the phone replacement cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► notice that didn't list is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► things that that's making people replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► the phone is that their phone feels slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► in general I think I phones don't are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► like Windows computers were used them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► for two years and they're soaked wrapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► up that you just need to get a new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► again this is based on my experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► talking to other people that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► happen with phones as much not say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► doesn't happen at all sometimes your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► phone does get slow and you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► upgraded the OS and my phone feel slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► and that is another that is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► factor in it but I feel like it is far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► pressuring you into upgrading your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► and just plain dropping it and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► none of those things are true for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► ipad then it is protected and it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► makes me fear for the day when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► makes an iphone you can drop all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► long and never breaks will the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► suddenly become like the ipad if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► again if this theory is correct that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► know the people aren't buying new iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► because the one that has working just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► fine i think people's phones will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► working just fine if there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► something that they want to play they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► didn't keep dropping know maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► overestimating the dropping and maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► noticed cracks too much because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► always amazed at the vast percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► people I see like on the train or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► whatever just swiping thumbs along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► totally shattered phones you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► iOS or not because people drop them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► they're made of glass and it's a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► so I don't know you don't really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► get a product marketing for apple on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► show now that we're mad with power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► say what are your percentage of white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► people replace their phones it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► they have an android phone it's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► old and slow because they drop their old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► one or is it because they want to play a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► new game I first of all that that's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► that'll be question number one for when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► we get filled question number 2 question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► 1 will be about the mac pro out okay i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► have many other questions earlier the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► killer sorry folks that's fair but i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► think you are under estimating how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► people replace their phone because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► old and slow because you think it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► brought that up and i have heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► from a lot of people and it is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► thing but I was gonna say no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► forcing you to upgrade your your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► button apples pretty pushing these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► aren't they yeah they Apple really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► really pushes the upgrade pretty hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► critical app that for people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► require it to that kind of forces i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► terry they push you on the ipad 2 like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► had iPads that I regret upgrading the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► four because they just sold in your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► upgrade to the very last thing like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2278">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► should have stayed one version back so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► why wouldn't that make people replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► well that that's a good question were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► thinking about i think one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► reasons for that may be one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► biggest reasons for that is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► types of apps that you use on the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► vs types you absolutely that use enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► on the phone and like like is there an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► app that's pushing you to upgrade or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► on the ipad I i think i think the data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► shows that despite this despite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► community of people who get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► work on the ipad a lot of ipad users are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► using it mainly for video watching web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► browsing and email me at facebook like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► bait the basics basics like email web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► video kind of workflow and for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► probably nothing really going to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► you to really upgrade your OS like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► can still use apples mail app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► whatever else you have you can still use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► the web browser you can probably like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► would imagine like Facebook and netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► and stuff probably keep their inversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► pretty low pulled up the upgrade the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► but you don't doesn't matter if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► crazy or is it just using to play video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► it really doesn't matter exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► close to the animation is on springboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► when you launched it for example you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► care about is once the video starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► that's fair but anyway regardless I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► think the way most iPads are used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► probably has a slower upgrade cycle from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► this office I'd simply because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► not often using a lot of apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► require the newest version of the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► you have a lot more like you know new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► games that come out new cutting-edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► have to come out usually come on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► phone first or only and you have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► early adopters that it seemed like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► driving that but also just like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► like this consistent narrative with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► ipad that explains a lot of this that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► probably correct and there is some data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► while you can get work done on it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► that's not a judgment that's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► people do that's also true computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► that's also true phones however that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► true hi pads and that people's needs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► ipads are so are fairly simple most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► the time whoever's fault that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► really matter the point is people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► pretty simple things that I've had most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► of the time you know it's only one data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► point but I feel like it's relevant the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► aforementioned ipad3 that we had after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► we stopped using it because we found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► it was collecting dust for months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► then just a couple months back i had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► ID I you know reset it all and i had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► dad bring it to my grandparents they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► live in Pennsylvania i'm in Virginia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► although they come down from time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► time we haven't been up there in a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► time and you know they're they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► that young at this point because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► turning 35 pretty soon and these are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► grandparents but I'm but we gave them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► this ipad 3 mostly so they could face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► time with us and Declan and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► guess my parents from time to time as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2458">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► well from what I understand they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► beyond overjoyed to have received it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► only because of facetime but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► it's a much easier device for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► reasonably modern PC but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► overjoyed to receive an ipad 3 it late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► in 2016 was the ipad 3 new like 2012 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► something like that probably before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► actually so 12 it wasn't 20 ok yes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► were beyond excited to receive this old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► device which for them is more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► enough now obviously they have nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► obviously in a perfect world i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► they would prefer brand new one but four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► for someone who hadn't had one before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► was way more than enough and not every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► ipad users going to be like that and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► there's tons of ipad users that upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► regularly that are not using it for work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► they just really love the ipad but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► speak of the longevity the ipad this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► a device that's you know nearly five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► years old now that brought genuine joy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► to their household when they received it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► because it's a thing like that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► why pads are so useful and so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► them are still in use because most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► people's needs are pretty low-end most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► people just want a thing that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► browse the web and send emails and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► facebook on like that's pretty much what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► computing devices phone laptop or tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► and so this device is delightful for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► that again but that but I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► that doesn't preclude you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► doing really work on it and also my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► theory that that I'm putting forth with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► this the sales graphs that like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► technology i mean there aren't any real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► answers here like the the data that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2574">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► extrapolate a lot from it and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► because of that it's there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► judgment involved and there's no clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► right or wrong and I think that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► we're going to talk about it in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► across 17 different podcasts for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► little while the item is so let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► about something that's indisputably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2598">TS</a>]
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00:43:27 ◼ ► offer code ATP at checkout to get ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► Squarespace is platform is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► powerful but it's so easy to use you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► make a beautiful website with no time at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► you can take less than an hour and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► what everything it can do you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► have to pay because you can start a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► trial and when you do want to pay use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► code ATP of course but you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► have to pay you can see what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► without ever giving them a credit card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► you can get a free trial site you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► build out what you want to see and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► can see for yourself how incredibly good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► once you've made a site with squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► you will wonder why anybody does it any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► other way because most other ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► make websites are way more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► way more time-consuming much harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► and people ask us to make this all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► time and people who listen to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► probably probably a lot of you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► people in your life who asked you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► make websites for them you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► support that you don't want to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► you don't have to like patch that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► upgrade that ordeal with them whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► there's there you know server goes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► whatever else you want someone else to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► take care of that and Squarespace can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► that whether it's for your site or for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► site someone else wants you to help to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► help them setup setup on Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► because their platform takes care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► everything hosting you never even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► to think about software updates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► patches obviously support which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► huge thing if you're so excited for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► somebody else and you and they need help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► with something they ask where space not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► you you want to get yourself out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► business let Squarespace take care of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► and no matter what you're making whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► it's for you or somebody else you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► everything with squarespace you just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► things up there and just done eat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► can mess with the design if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► you don't even have to the stock stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► is beautiful if you want if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► belittle customizations you can like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► try it just try it next to me to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► anything make your next move with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► squarespace see for yourself when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► ready to check out use offer code ATP to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► get ten percent off your purchase a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► Squarespace make your next move at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► Squarespace so there was this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► dammit sorry up there was this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► rumor are sort of rumor that was posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► on slashdot as a comment and this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► in / top parlance an anonymous coward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► which is to say somebody that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► want to leave their name but they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► on and on about how there are several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► armed powered laptops that are drifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► around internally at apple and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► individual claims to have seen several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► with my with their own eyes and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► a lot to say about it i don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► best way to summarize it partially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► because i read this days ago and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► which was in part because it seemed kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► of bananas to me right but I'm but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► seemed like the the short short version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► was yeah there's some apps that that run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► fish even though it is an iOS like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► of things that that we like to control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► as a as you even not even necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► power usage users on Mac OS not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► that is available on these supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► phantom our max I didn't think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► something about this didn't feel right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► to me like i'm not sure i can point to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► specific passage and say yes this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► it's bananas but a lot of it just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► gathered from people that I've spoken to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► it didn't feel right to a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► existence and we'll put a link to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► show notes and I'm sure that the two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2818">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► you have some thoughts on it as well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► don't do more than just technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► yeah I don't want to entertain it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► as a possibility because that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► this is not a credible source but let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► just pretend like hypothetically let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► talk about this thing if it existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► right because I again that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► think the sourcing is enough to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► this does exist but i would say in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► the the incredible shadiness of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► post and so many of the like weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► things that don't really sound very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► I i would say this is very unlikely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► be true but I but I'd the reason I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► to talk about this too i was very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► to see the note is that this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► interesting idea for where the mac could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► plausibly go because while the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► of this are very suspicious admit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► make you discount the validity of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► of this report i do think the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► idea of such a product is plausible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► the idea that apple would take in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► direction is very plausible that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► plausible this is like this is the as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► soon as iOS appeared this is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► the exact not an exemplar but like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► this is the prototype of this rumor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► very second the first person said iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► Mac merge like the very second someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► said that many many years ago this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► exactly what they were talking about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► a mac running arm CPUs can only get apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► from the app store everything locked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► down all binary sign can restore from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► the internet like a phone like it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► is nothing in this that is even outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► the realm of the things that mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► only reason is you know it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► again it's because being presented as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► truth is kind of the same way when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► tell a joke you pretend it's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► story that happened to make the joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► that's exactly how this is working here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► but because we haven't had like the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► the reasons we're talking about again is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► because we haven't revisited this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► of the iOS and mac merge totally locked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► down Mac thing again and in light of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► actual appearance of arm CPUs inside max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► with the touch bar mac pros and in light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► of all the Intel stuff and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► forth in our own revisiting of what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► it going to be time to flip them back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► revisiting this old the rumor of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► merged you know that emerged iOS Mac not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► buttoning down the mac in all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► way that iOS button down as an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► of what we talked about last show like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► expand the capabilities of iOS or making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► the mac easier this would be an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► of taking all the sharp edges in the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► and following them down as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► possible to make something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► hopefully almost as easy to use an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► yeah and so I i think it's worth going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► over some of the details he's our chief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► summarizer in chief failed to that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► what it's ok if you've had a long day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► yes sorry it is so basically the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► idea before this comment basically is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► that it is a it is like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► next generation of laptop presumably or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► possibly have all max it is an ARM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► processor all custom app alarm harbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► just like the iPads and phones but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► only boots the signed os os images that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► that come from that come over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► internet i assume that every time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► not even that but like it only boots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► it's similar to iphones and ipads like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► there is no like physical install media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► there's no like downgrading it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► here's the software update for you hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► that you get you can't downgrade you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► can't choose what version you run just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► here's what you get period it said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► you know a lot of the OS 10 legacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► there's no more x11 there's no audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► MIDI setup we know a lot of that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► no disk utility no terminal which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► interesting system preferences and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► of functionality has had to move into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► new app called settings to match iOS the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► app store is mandatory including even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► things that require hardware drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► Senate sounds kind of similar to when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► bluetooth or Lightning device to a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► and it can associate itself with an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► on the App Store app that lets it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► similar to that but for drivers on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► mac so you get a new like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► scanner something you plug it in and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► downloads the door it launches you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► the Mac App Store to download the driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► similarly all drivers would be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► know kind of like iOS sandbox ified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► where something could install one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► these drivers like that at the deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► level system but then you could just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► into a system pref pain and like delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► it and it's gone it doesn't like Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► files behind you know it's a very iose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► in that way of like a night with iOS you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► everything about that is gone like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► there's no there's no like remnants of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► left on your phone or anything and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► course the maximum work that way now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► know max get gummed up over time those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► crap and yet you have like all this junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► in your library folder and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► else and so and then a couple of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► but yeah basically that the land and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► the file system is a kind of like it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► pronounced chroot in linux world is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► route after but is it really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► basically the file system is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► Troodon so basically like you like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► appears to be at route is your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► directory and you don't even see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► system files they're just don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► they're like that they're there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► exist in the file system but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► see them from your point of view from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► your user space you see at root your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► files and nobody elses and they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► there's like no concept of seemingly of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► multi stuff but I don't want to get too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► much into the specifics of this post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► because again i think the credibility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► it is is pretty low but as a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► direction of mac OS and and of the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► hardware platform i do this we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► talking about not only because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► plausible based on what Apple's seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► want to do but also i think i will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► the seemingly in this community very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► unpopular opinion that I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► could be really good with a few minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► exceptions i think this could be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► the only things about this that give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► a lot of paws are that it said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► everything to come to the mac app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► that's number one and i think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► the mac has this wonderful gatekeeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► this kind of like code-signing without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► app review system called developer ID if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► that if the developer ID and gatekeeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► come forward into whatever this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► look again assume this is real even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► experiment time okay if this were if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► this were to have some kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► developer mode where you could build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► open source stuff and you know it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► however its container if it's in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► little true jail fine but if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► build open source stuff if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► develop code if you can like compile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► code with with your c compiler whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► else and just running on this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► without the os's coat is interfering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► badly with that if that's possible to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► here and you know and and if if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► do if you can distribute software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► developer ID which would bypass the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► the mac app store then I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► not only plausible and could be good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► it might be great because a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► solves real problems with the mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► with peaceful oasis one of the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► problems is like how its spread that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► over the place all over the system you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► know they they they are like it isn't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► it without with iOS you know is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► delete the app it's gone on the macula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► everywhere and you have to use like Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► cleanup utility is to clean up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► garbage out sometimes you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► find these files of the spread of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► system and you can't be sure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► happens do when you install it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► stuff like the the pc and mac style of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► of app security is outdated we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► we've talked with before how they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► to hold the unix idea of like anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► you've run so that has access to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► entire user account and everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► have a ready-made on user account all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► your files and it can delete files it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► will I can you can read everything of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► yours like that is an outdated model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► that that that is not great for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► future computing and one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► that makes iOS so appealing to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► additional simplicity and security that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► enforces I think there it is possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► do this well a lot of mac diehards are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► really against this idea when I saw this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► commented and assuming it might be real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► and I can see why that why you would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► if again which is like that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► slight tweak of like a developer mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► and being able to distribute software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► developer ID that's pretty much all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► would need for this at you know it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► it sounds like it would be really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► in a lot of other ways either the mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► in maintenance mode as i keep saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► seems that way and nothing ever changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► or if it is going to change if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► really is working on like the next the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► next generation of os not just 10 dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► the entire next generation like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► they went from classic to OS 10 if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► are indeed working on such a thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► the mac which I would argue they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► be because it would be ridiculous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► complete to continue computing platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► for but no plans to ever do that then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► think this is exactly the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► they would do and we should be prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► for it and we can see a preview of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► it's like by looking at iOS iOS is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► more restrictive than this and so if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► this is plausible and and if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► happens and if it's done well with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► with those couple of little holes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► puncture the wall for developers and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► distribution through developer ideas i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► said i think this could be a great move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► security of iOS but with windowing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► file management and access to your files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► in it in a traditional paradigm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► stuff like that and yes it would require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► a lot of apps to be written some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► that works in the old system wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► work anymore but a lot of this stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► ancient like I don't need x11 anymore i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► don't like there's a lot of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► is so ancient mac OS is very old it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► a community craft over time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► everything does this new way of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► sounds like it could really be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► actual future of computing that blends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► together the greatness of iOS with ap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► style paradigm to a lot more types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► this sounds really good to me the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► future computer i spent all this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► explaining myself and you just ignore me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► last week we talked about the ipad was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► like was making progress in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► multitasking and the pen and the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► size and stuff but like what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► slowly the mac has been doing that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► thing but in the other direction but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► even more slowly because if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► about the Mac the Mac trying to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► simplify itself trying to be friendlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► this has been a process the process took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► a pretty big leap with classic taurus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► ten actually because many things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► were way more complicated and classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► we're massively simplify the doc is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► best example of that all the ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► you could manage the same stuff the doc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► is supposed to do on classic mac OS at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► the time we transitioned doctors just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► like the most dumbed down version of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► including third-party things of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► there were many this was this one first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► no you can't use the private api's to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► make your own doc type thing will we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► will fight you on that and it is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► simpler and don't worry about it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► all everybody needs right and sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► another example a long slow painful slog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► trying to get some of the benefits that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► you get in iOS all your crap in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► place protect applications protected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► from each other blah blah it's been slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► we haven't been able to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► because sandboxing is incompatible lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► of cool things that the mac apps have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► done and still want to do and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► difficult for Apple to ever get slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► incrementally get to the point where mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► applications our sandbox in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► as iOS applications instead they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► saying you can be a mac app and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► stuff can still be in seven different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► places because it kind of has to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► we'll put some constraints on you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► it's a this weird mismatch between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► having to do that but also having to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► protected from yourself and isolated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► from other applications even so far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► like how many machs have struggled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► the sandbox because the the integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► point on pc cell operating systems is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► very often the filesystem and that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► that's our application share things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► each other is I right thing here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► you open that same thing over there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► we make that the user is allowed to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► little folders and put stuff in them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► you're trying to sandbox things to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► application only see his own files but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► like it's it's been difficult and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► this this description of the the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► ified mac which again has been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► people's minds and talked about for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► many years now the question is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► from where we are to there is it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► incrementally has been very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► it hasn't been particularly successful a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► lot of things efforts have stalled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► despite a lot of effort put into it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► know it gets back to the question from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► the last week's show it easier to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► the ipad more capable and make the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► question I think it's still easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► make iOS more capable because if you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► to make the mac simpler everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► developers fights you with every step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► because there's so much entrenched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► tradition and software and conventions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► and capabilities and attitudes and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► like and crafts like Marco said just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► plain old craft that it's it's difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► together so this this though post here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► is almost kind of like wishful thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► like wouldn't be great if we could snap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► my fingers and be there and like Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► said one way you can do that to say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► well it's not mac OS anymore it's a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► OS called something else you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► people would have said Mac OS 11 back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► the days before the 10 got dropped right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► but this really it would be a leap of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► that size if it appeared wholesale you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► can still get their piecemeal it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► to take a long time you might have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► wait for some people to die and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► may be there are many places where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► can go terribly wrong for example like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► it's obvious to us on this program has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► rabbit mac users that of course you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► have to have some load that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► wouldn't use but that would give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► access to the terminal they will let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► developer who uses a mac no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► kind of development and even if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► doing everything in xcode i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► imagine but it's definitely for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► development you know friends have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► server-side software you're used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► being able to install and run software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► like that is not signed with apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► developer ID thing at all the units open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► source stuff it's not signed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► developer ID and if you could literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► can't run binaries that are not that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► not signed if you don't have that final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► option gatekeeper to launch applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► with another right click on the open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► all that you know just launching it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► the command line like if that option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► like literally does not exist as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► doesn't on iOS unless you jailbreak and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► I really don't wanna be jailbreaking my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► that eliminates just so many users this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► is not even an edge case anymore is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► a large percentage of people who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► know whole professions who use max at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► their desks need the ability to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► type of stuff and are going to need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► for the foreseeable future of you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► marginalizing the mac too much i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► because it would be there will be eaten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► up by us on one side and you abandoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► everybody else was using those features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► in the mac and so that the danger zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► as well but the general idea of like let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► me just close my eyes and open them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► again and the mac at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► solves a one or two or three of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► biggest problems still wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► solving the file system problem even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► with the chroot stuff and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► management drivers regularly uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► wouldn't have to see disk images anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► and settings and preferences would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► more coherent and familiar because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► used to iOS like just those winds would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► be huge and if you can get those wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► while also allowing people to do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► work in the old way if they want to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► that's talk about progressive disclosure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► like knowing if it's a developer mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► over it like no believe me people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► gonna be like I wish I want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► developer motor not know nobody wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► that they wanted to be simple and nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► overjoyed when it's like oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► simple i just do this to this and it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► makes sense to me is no place i can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► they're not going to go looking for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► thing to turn on developer mode that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► for power users quote-unquote and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► there is a class of person who will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► looking for it and turn it on and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► know that because they're interested out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► there you know they're geeks they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► nerds that's fine but regular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► trust me do not want the complexity like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► all of us when we go into a preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► screen and we see an advanced button we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► most people don't even want to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► preference screen like any one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► perfect screen exist they probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► know the parents like it doesn't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► exist they just wanted to work and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► fine so I'm pretty much with Marco that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► I would love a mac that work like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► as long as I had the option to to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► know that the developer motor the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► do stuff i just i'm not sure how long it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► will take to get there whether Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► resources to get there because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► to continue to hand to enhance iOS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► feel like iOS is getting this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► iOS is still getting more sophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► at a faster rate than the mac is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► simpler just fine with me as an old Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► user but if I start drawing lines on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► grass and seeing how this ends up it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► just seems to me that unless Apple has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► massively renewed interest in the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► that iOS will eventually overtake it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► because for whatever their interest is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► in the mac they're interested in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► seems much stronger on the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► still even a little bit stronger on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► ipad and who knows what other weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► devices they're planning and you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► watchtower on the mix there to like iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► as a legacy free basis for innovation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► seems like a much easier path then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► continuing to bang my head against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► mac you know the by and large I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► with you guys but I can't help but think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► a couple things one it almost sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► like you're saying I want the good parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► of iOS and and none of the parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► like I mean yeah that does sound good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► know itself but but I mean 442 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► terribly interested in in the ipad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► interesting hearing you say oh I'd love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► all that stuff in the ipad whose people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► as i used ipad everyday so what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► ipad more than I use my Mac like answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► that but I do use that back at home i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► use definitely i obviously I were called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► majority of my time but in my house I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► use my iPad literally every day and many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► days ago when I don't wake my mac from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► sleep most but I i think to clarify this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► it's not that all of iOS is bad there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► tons of great stuff and iOS there's tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► of there's tons of advantages of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► there's a between the way iPads work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► the way Mac OS works there's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► difference in interaction paradigm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► file you know the whole different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► between being you know Mac OS is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► file centric like most PCOS is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► whereas you know iOS is absent Rick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► these are massive differences in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► the way the systems work of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► can take some of what's good about one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► the only question is you know where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► starting point and and where are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► going and you know like as you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► Johnson it's a lot easier to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► make iOS more capable than to make mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► OS simpler however no matter what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► to Iowa it's still going to feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► big phone that's AB centric and and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► file centric and everything else because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► that's just like the entire amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► the system whereas on the mac if what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► you want is the pc style of computing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► is totally possible with something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► this crazy scheme that this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► comment that is probably be s it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► totally possible to to take the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► pc start computing make it still work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► the way the people who want that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► accustomed to but bring in the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► somebody makes a lot more sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► imagine if you gave your grandparents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► this mac described in here i think with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► the possible exception of the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► being intimidating they could be just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► delighted because from their perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► if it's simple and they can figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► how to use it like like if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► basically as simple as the only way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► could launch applications is Launchpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► is Launchpad was always visible in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► thing would probably have to be touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► which is another issue entirely in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► of bridging that divide but like if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► were never faced with the complexity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► an open save dialog box or never had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► look at a bunch of files or little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► documents on the desktop and never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► looked at the desktop and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► basically have the simplicity of an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► what happened to be a mac they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► just as delighted because they just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► to accomplish a task the task is video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► you know video conference with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► my family and be able to send emails or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► whatever and you and I could say oh if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► you had a macbook door what you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► just fine but the difference between a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► macbook adorable ipad that to them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► huge so all you need to do to delight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► them with a mac is make it so that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► they use it is just as simple as an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► you can still have lurking under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► covers all all the other complexity the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► filesystem stuff is a place where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► continue to punt apple continues to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► point I I hold out hope that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► still a better way to collaborate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► things than the completely absent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► iOS and the complete file central world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► of the pc but considering no one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► figured out yet you know we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► leave that off to the future but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► we are talking about the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► computing at the present but anyway like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► that that's why I think this this mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► a this type of mac is appealing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► it it will start to blur the lines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► we're all thinking in terms of because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► once i like this appears on on the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► conversation anymore it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► conversation entirely you know the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► that I'm that I'm curious to see if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► becomes real one day and it's the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► of us who are still blathering on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► show is what are the restrictions in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► how egregious are they and I mean marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► talk about this some but like the evo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► if there's a developer mode what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► that really give you and do you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► BF file system access just to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► change rooted root area can you get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► the way to the root can i install a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► colonel extension what I want to I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► I can't help but feel like let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► this dropped in our laps tomorrow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► you know Mark over you or me or all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► three of us by 1i think inevitably what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► would happen is it would put roadblocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► in our way in ways we find frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► and what I'm not sure about is would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► your average developer when looking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► his or her left in seeing the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► macbook pro and then looking to his or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► her right and seeing this phantom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► arm-based mack i mean certainly I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► choose them the touch bar macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► because it doesn't limit me at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► in in this hypothetical new mac while it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► does fix a lot of problems for people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► general I don't think it solves any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► problem that I'm seen today and so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► just see I visions of this being like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► less extreme version of of me saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► well I don't like working on the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► because i feel like it constrains me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► I feel like the mac is free because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► is how i feel and i think that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► hypothetical new arm Mac would be a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► of the same in that regard if perhaps a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► little bit less of it a lot of what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► what we would want as developers could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► be accomplished through VMS true you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► if it was still possible to have virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► machines running on this in some form a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► lot of this could be solved by container [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► and my virtual machines of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► right like LG's that i just lost a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► this week on monday i spent a whole day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► finally fixing my local apache and PHP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► mysql installations between my my imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► and my laptop both of which my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► never had a working one because i did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► clean install when I got it I just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► finished setting it up and fixing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► homebrew and fixing PHP and fixing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► built-in Apache to use the right version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► of PHP and all this crap and the tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► ma'am and i didn't i didn't like it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► stopped trying map and like filling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► all this stuff that's like all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► file system all the stuff that homegroup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► managers do it at home brew complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► another package managers exists and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► like dealing with all this crap all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► the file system that gets upgraded when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► the system is upgraded that I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► to put my own stuff into an edit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► config files and everything else like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► during a lot of that I'm like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► why don't you install VirtualBox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► just make a Linux VM had just run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► try docker you've got a modern enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► Matthew can run docker i know i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► know about docker I know nothing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► dr. I know you I know these the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► high-level concept of what it is I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► never seen it never use it no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► have our how it works but try to dry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► before you go the the full vm route and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► everything everything from source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► installing user local like I do well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► I did I did actually I eventually moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► to the the full homebrew setup took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► awhile to realize at home brew install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► its own version of apache but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► but it did finally do that but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► it was so much messing around so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► crap i know that that future updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► will probably break in and never has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► never touched system files you can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► messing user local do not touch anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► yeah and I did eventually move the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► system but my point is that is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► different from what if on this on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► hypothetical you know next-generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► mac OS lockdown mode which would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► developer mode existed which i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► developer mode needs to exist where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► can just compile stuff or you can run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► open source software that is compiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► from sort through package managers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► whatever else something you can open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► source stuff you can build yourself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► just run it and somehow there needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► be a way to you know to to distribute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► software out of the app store with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► developer ID gatekeeper whatever that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► supposed developer mode is a rooted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► basically get your own version of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► environment within your home directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► that's not that different we have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► we could totally work with that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► be fine as long as there's still a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► to have a terminal and a way to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► compile software you get from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► places all these workflows don't break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► just the file paths my change slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► that's it that could be done well like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► to so that you don't feel constrained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► Casey like that you don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► you're suddenly traffic is it would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► be a matter of commands in the sheet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► flipping switches like I back to normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► but really that the the ultimate cure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► for this is the same thing that solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► the exact same situation in the change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► from classic mac OS to OS 10 which was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► big you know increase in simplicity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► downgrade and customizability with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► elimination of whole categories of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► interfaces and ways of working and lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► of third-party things being replaced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► 1st party things that could not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► enhanced or replaced in a supportive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► the solution is guess what there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► more classic Michael is sewn it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► this that was the solution is like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► you know go use windows or linux or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► is the future of the mac like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► envision the mac described in this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► comment here existing alongside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► other max for any appreciable amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► time there would be a transition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► you're on board or you're not and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► know like take it like that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► how it would have to work and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► if they go there by immigrants but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► if you could blinken and you know open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► your eyes and this thing was here they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► wouldn't keep them both around the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► thing would go away so that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► basically solve the problem for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► hopefully I said you wouldn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► constrained maybe to like to cook we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► keep some of the old thing for 10 more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► years after yeah well you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► software that little better but they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► have great but like yeah he that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► you know initially a lot of classic mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► users felt constrained always 10 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► it was very young and slow and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► missing a lot of things were simpler and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► constrained by some of the interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► things in OS 10 but you get used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► eventually becomes the new normal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► you accept that it comes with many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► benefits so I would imagine that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► type of mac would be powerful to you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► not immediately then in short order as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► again as long as they didn't screw up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► because like one of the ways that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► especially today's Apple could massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► screws up is by going too far and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► cutting off all those other avenues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► because if the mac can't support that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► type of user like why bother having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► mac now I'm saying that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► reason for the max existence but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► like then what are you even doing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► just you're squeezing the mac from both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► sides until it's basically like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► weird iOS position the IRS would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► be advancing so it's like it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► weird iOS version that can't do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► things that used to do but isn't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► simple as iOS and with all the resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► into morphing the mac into this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► and it's like what's the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► point you you have to concede that back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► and had the right approach and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► you've just been wasting your time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► duel a strategy as you shave one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► oasis from both sides until all that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► left is a little skinny spindle just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► topples over when and if they did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► again like I said earlier like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► know this we haven't had a major OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► tradition in awhile from Apple not since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► you know tonight or whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► John I'm sure has some idea when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► was huh 2001 was 10.1 there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► they have some I guess yeah so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► we have a tradition says that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► windows world they have them a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► more often but this those come that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► often and when you have a major OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► transition like that one of the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► the luxuries of this it is painful no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► question it's painful it it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► consuming for a while there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► there's a transition period that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► modernize app frameworks to add new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► capabilities to do things it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► take the opportunity that that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► that your kind of forcing at makers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► do something new to do like a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► update or to order to even do a rewrite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► to take the opportunity to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► better for everybody so for instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► some of the things they could do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► the mac and if they did this and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► presumably broke a lot of old apps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► fight they could finally make like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► more unified UI framework for one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► make UI kit for the mac and i don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► make everything look like navigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4678">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► controllers and make it all function the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► same way in the UI but you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► like some of the simple low hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► fruit like like unify the way like table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► views of your load their data and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► sure we don't have NS color and you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► call her anymore and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► like there's a lot of they could do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► unify those two frameworks they could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► things like as i mentioned previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► implement better control over networking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► and and do all this to like it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► given the opportunity to it it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► force us to to live for a while with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► incompatible software with all we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► do this in the US yet because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► hasn't updated or whatever we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► drag along Microsoft and Adobe or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► whatever else but then we got there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► could be so much better because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► makers have been forced to update right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► now the mac software ecosystem is is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► know there are some bright spots but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► lot of its just a graveyard because most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► people who make mac apps it's it's a low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► priority for them because they can keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► making the same old app over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► again it's fine and they can focus their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► efforts on iOS and stuff if the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► yes some of them we will some of them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► lost but the ones that want to stay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► the mac will have to put effort into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► and that will make their ass better that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► will make it better for all of us like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► it there there would be a substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► not to mention all the all the benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► of the OS itself as a set of things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► the better security better sandboxing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► the apps like not having a crap call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► this could be really good in a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► ways if something like this were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► happen it would definitely be painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► and some stuff that you could do now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► mac OS you'd never be able to do on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► but look at this to talk about together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► look at how many people do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► they need to do on phones and I'm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► everyone who says like they can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► sometimes it's because of the capability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► to iOS just never able to get a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► security model but sometimes it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► because it doesn't have a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► multitasking model or a very good file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► system model or very you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► things that the bed this would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► have so I think it would be a painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► transition to go to something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► but it wouldn't be impossible we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► all grumble we all complain but then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► get on board a few things would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► possible anymore forever and we deal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► solutions like if I couldn't use audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► hijack anymore to record this phone call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► from skype then we'd probably either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► stop using skype or we will you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► could switch to one of those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► web-based podcast recording things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► already like five of those and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► only gonna be more about time this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► ever exists so like it like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► there's always work around there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► always things like time was time would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► solve any pain that would be there so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► think even though this is probably all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► wrong and based on this one weird post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► on slashdot that's probably BS this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► of sounds cool and if it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► assuming had those the did those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► exceptions developer mode and developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► ID distribution I think it'd be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► nice to throw cold water and this we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► have to bring back to our old refrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► anytime we discussed anything radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► happening to the mac is like yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► that would cost a lot of money and take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► a lot of time and resources and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► Apple want to put that much money into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► its legacy platform or are you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► describe the mac because sales volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► investment in iOS can you justify that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► same and the ipad is along for the ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► because even though the ipads volume is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► similar to the mac guess what it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► the same as the phone so congratulations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► you get a lot of development stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► quorum court for free but this would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► a hell of an investment like it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► on the scale of the classic colors 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► transaction release close maybe not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► big but it would be closed and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► be the biggest investment in the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► software wise in many many many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► and so I think it could you know i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► saying it couldn't be that the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► people pitch it it could be sold within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► the company but it would be a departure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► from the historic investment mac which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► has been good and it's you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► hasn't been as high since the transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► appropriate or even the transition for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► this would be an architecture transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► and a nice transition that is the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► biggest one that Apple has ever done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► you know where we're all on board for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► and would be ready for but i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► entirely sure that Apple is ready to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► that money into the mac which now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► is the that is the most dubious thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► about this random / comp again I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► I wouldn't characterize it as novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► understand what characterizes it as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► prototypical idea of a mac merge with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► iOS resurfacing now in a new context a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► new context is the new apple and the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► state of Intel vs arm and the new sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► figures for ipad and almost new people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► being older and wiser and having seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► more than tech world reconsidering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► well in that case I will put it in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► they will understand you can sell ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► that's not including all the cases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► that's our end thanks to our three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► Squarespace and set appt and we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► you next week so I've got harder for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► macbook pro prices 2600 there you go now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► the show is over they didn't even mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► to be in because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► and you can find show know today cp/m [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► yes eyl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment are see you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5036">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► so Casey I hear you're having some car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► yes indeed so I brought my car in to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► the oil changed as I don't care that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► think that's preposterous don't care I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► preposterous is because you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► to also the audience was nothing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► audience I'm hopefully preventing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► he's talking about not changing your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► oh you ok you can set to tweet to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► absolutely nothing about how angry you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► are that I'm not changing my own oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► even people who change their own oil I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► feel like now realize that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► outliers probably so I had a coupon i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► was very excited and coupon so my BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► oil change is supposed to be ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► dollars which I understand this expense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► when you're getting into the dealership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► now it's time for me to school gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► yeah that was going to the dealership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► yep it's so okay i understand i am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► innocent in and I haven't I have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► yeah i do the same thing well you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► get your oil changed anymore but I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► if you're going to the dealership anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► ok but if you're going to the dealership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► to get your oil changed no don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► bottle I don't trust like a jiffy lube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► or anything like that no GC I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► don't have a Ferrari we have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► this special little Italian person with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► a wire synthetic it doesn't matter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► point noted for the record I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► might be covered when you have a lease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► i'm not sure but just for the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► there and it's pretty then yes yes by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► all means but I believe they are and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► was free for me when I first on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► carcass told some of the maintenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► program yeah like five years right side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► forget it was for I think it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► really matter but anyway so I had my $90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► coupon am all excited with myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► well I had the wherewithal to ask for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► loner which I was very glad for will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► why in a moment but here's my tiny doll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► coupon i should expect to see you later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► today I probably didn't even need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► bother getting a loaner i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► drive it the handful of miles to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► and then probably immediately later the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► you know handful miles back and that'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► I get a call as i'm out to lunch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► oh ye things relating to the drivetrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► I have an all-wheel-drive BMW before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► angry I things related to the drivetrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► the front like tie rods and bushings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► things of that nature and the adjustment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► screw that you use in order to do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► alignment has seized things are breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► that will be a thousand dollars please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► when you'll get your car back tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► because we don't have all the parts fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► so in and of itself ok fine the car has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► almost 70,000 miles on it if i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► correctly it is not unreasonable that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► things would be going wrong but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► last see Rand change i had a five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► thousand dollar repair the van Gogh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► system i had a thousand-dollar a water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► pump issue that was almost last month it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► was just barely in december and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► have this thousand-dollar issue and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► think this is the universe giving me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► sign that this car is not long for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► world so I'm getting some pressure from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► justified to unload the thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► it's just me I can't keep the damn thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► resisting but now I'm to the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► I'm like screw it this thing is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► worth my time anymore i want to get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► of it now on paper the right answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► get a brand-new 3-series maybe an m3 if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► maintenance will be covered at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► the beginning it will have a nice big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► problem solved except I feel like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► been burned by BMW i think new ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► as I think we talked about recently new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► ones are just unaffordable so and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► that becomes okay well define get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► pre-owned one well I just did that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► yes this one that this hypothetical new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► pre-owned one would be with a with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► cpo warranty which goes to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► hundred thousand miles and yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► possible but even if i'm not paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► out-of-pocket constantly for my car to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► my car stalled the damn shop all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► time and in and I feel like the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► to BWW gets past like least time things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► start falling apart and I have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► friends have had that have had similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► experiences i just want to be bothered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► by it so i have many options in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► me if you recall my requirements which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► are somewhat loose our I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► I wanted to get to 60 in under six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► seconds I don't care that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► necessary on regular roads that's what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► want i want three pedals and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► I'm only thinking about new right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► and then i'm going to start trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► Rack my brain for used because i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► opposed to going used but looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► I think every single one of my options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► a friend of mine actually just written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► in cadillac ats great call but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► infotainment is from everything I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► ever understood unusable just utterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► unusable and I don't know if it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► carplay I'd have to check that out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► that is a potential if I'm also hideous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► yeah it's too early to be three we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► don't let that fairly hideous i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► ok so let's just lie I it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► the the brain trust has eliminated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► so if i'm going to have wrong wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► drive focus st the problem with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► other than it being a fortune of itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► is fine but it's front-wheel drive which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► I don't particularly care for and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► the RS is also is the RS whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► super Pavarotti one is that one is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► to 18 year old for me i'm turning 35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► next month just no way the st is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► reasonable compromise but wrong wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► deutschland i have the volkswagen GTI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► the Golf R which is the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► think I'm most interested in the a4 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► the s3 which is basically a go far but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► in today and former from that mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► that come on what which what what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► hatchbacks and you lump the a4 on the s3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► and then like no it's the same thing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► therefore is wildly different the s3 i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► thought was basically a drivetrain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► the Golf R I am I am onday you under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► under the covers sure but it's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► like from the outside it's 2 difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► between driving around in a rabbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► driving around got a car you're dating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► yourself well and he doesn't mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► could rule out all fours right now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► you because 84 you can go it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► boring but i think they should try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► it's nice-looking it has the features he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► wants is reasonably nice inside and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► the main slam against it is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► more boring than the BMW's but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► we should test drive is the a4 even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► yes it is okay and I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► anyway I don't know it is alright so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► a4 is basically a 3-series that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► slightly worse like I depends on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► you want if you want if you want less if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► you want it smoother kind of nicer even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► keel explicates if you want a crappier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► yeah you know i deserted nice they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► nice don't feel nice i am not so sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► also i drive is way better than their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► window system i drive is lightyears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► better than mi mi at least as of about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► definitely a more updated whatever its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► yes yeah I don't know either i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► it was it had the new hotness one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► i have yet to try but they but the a4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► supports carplay I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► wireless carplay but it's carplay the s3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► is basically a call far although body- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► saying it might be dsg only which might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► eliminated from contention then the Gulf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► are obviously all of these are appealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► because they are not front-wheel drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► but that's going back to Germany and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► can't tell if this is a German car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► problem or if it's a BMW problem it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► it's it's a expensive car problems every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► car around 60,000 miles especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► you live in the northeast which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► don't really but if you did like around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► 60 or 70,000 crap starts falling apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► and breaking or whatever the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► that crap falls apart brakes on a BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► cause a billion dollars to fix that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► that's where your problems like any car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► you keep for that number of miles you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► going to add like if you have a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► 400,000 ultimately replace the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► pump is not a surprise because nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► that happens right that's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► water pump cost you fifteen hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► bucks then you're you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► driving BMW right that's the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► that in and of itself any one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► repairs fine whatever well maybe not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► vanos exploding but generally and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► the engine stuff I feel like you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► not need to put that much money into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► india the entire body would rust off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► car before the engine when you work in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► Honda so yeah so I could go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► Germany go far a for s3 apparently is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► definitely dsg only from what I'm being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► it's also really overpriced for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► you're buying that's probably true i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► forgot to mention the GTI i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► performance pack is phenomenal the GTI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► performance pack however that is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► wrong wheel drive so so far still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► contention focus st wrong wheel drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► GTI performance pack wrong wheel drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► our German a for German a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► boring and then now i get into like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► real Slim Pickens if I'm willing to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► extremely slowly i could get an accord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► which I cannot I cannot option the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► want or a mazda 6 which I cannot option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► the way I want and then if I'm willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► to live inside of my car because I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► be divorced and never get to see my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► or child again I could get a Tesla so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► so here here's one of the one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► questions here is do you want to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► car that can comfortably hold your kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► sitting here now yes that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► ruining everything but yeah we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► go with us on this one because then your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► only options on this list that can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► fast on the model s that's it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► center of the a4 goes pretty fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► it's it's about the same speed as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► cards a little slower but not too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► load onto the Endor if already galant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► vr4 I think you need to go to dealer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► Casey needs to go to a dealer and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► now you're not buying just going there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► to look at it maybe take a test-drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► poke around you're not even thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► buying just check it out because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► like you're the Marcos aunty aunty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► biases is hot out he's my right-hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► warranted out is great but being buddies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► it's simple as that like out he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► great collar current ones not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► current 3 series with a weirdo electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► steering and the ugly outsides and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► bazillion dollars for the options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► well but I mean talk about Brazilian I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► was options out he is also the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► about the option pricing and the repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► losses and everything else like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► basically in in most of the downsides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► they're the same or roughly the same and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► and I think BMWs upsides are better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► basically I think out these are it get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► there nice cars and some of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► really nice cars but the interior I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► always thought felt noticeably cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► than w's I the media system is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► I agree yeah and and they actually kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► of surprised they saw first because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► think most of the cars they don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► offered as an option anymore although to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► be fair but he's not that different in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► that regard so yeah you can get you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► get in a for premium plus with all-wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► drive and actually the only available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► transmission is the six-speed it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► have carpet by the way I just flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► through their website they got a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► screen shot again it's not wireless but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► data is it is carplay nevertheless so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► that would be so if we were on the a4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► which one the premium plus just a plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► all day for I'm just walking through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► things with extreme front-wheel drive or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► all-wheel drive now all-wheel-drive okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► yeah that's what I think it's easily my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► four-cylinder turbo but otherwise it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► basically my card six-speed all-wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► drive etc I wasn't aware they were still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► making novel drive with stick that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► pretty well in i think this is new I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► transmission option like this model year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► even though i think the Refresh happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► months and months ago maybe that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► the thing about dude about the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► get ready required it's not so much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► point of your car is falling apart is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► that the longer you wait the less chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► you have to get any car with a stick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► temperature but I mean you aren't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► you would have some morning when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► was going to happen anyway that is in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► broad strokes that is true so i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► say for you I'm telling you as a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► Casey I'm just find the damn test this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► no no I'm telling you as a friend this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► is my intervention here i would rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► you buy an overpriced German hatchback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► then the whole night I had listened I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► would rather you buy it now price German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► hatchback then to have you compromise on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► what's really important to you and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► have you get a quarter mazda well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► the thing is like I I the accord is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► nice but what about versus the a41 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► just eliminate that one I can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► what you're saying like I'd rather have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► you get a sporty hatchback that boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► while have you got a sporty hatchback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► like me for no I the a forest is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► you know it you you know you've driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► one before kc you know you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► they are yes but I haven't driven one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► the new ones that was the last 1i drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► was the pre refresh version and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► understanding is a lot changed with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► refresh president then it's worth it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► definitely worth seeing because as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► know BMW has had some some shortcomings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► with the new 3-series i completely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► I think the Gulf are would probably be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► more exciting car I and certainly i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► pretty sure to be considerably quicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► but the a4 I think would be sufficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► in every metric that I can think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► throw at it also expensive to repair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► well and you're still shopping and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► german luxury sedans and so but you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► if you get especially if you got it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► here's having a question would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► consider either new financing or leasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► which would then take care of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► maintenance issue for the most part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► yeah see I mean financing whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► that's the the oven whatever but it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► it just leaves i hope i don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► lease a car like I don't think places of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► you can get a model 3 if you're lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► well that's true so the thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► leasing is is that in a perfect world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► what I want is the situation we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► parent's car errands car has been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► shop for repairs fewer times in the 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► nine-and-a-half at this point then my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► car has in the last 10 months and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► is it a boring reliable japanese koto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► boring reliable japanese place boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► slow and reliable that you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► that that would crush your soul that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► I bought something but it will crush my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► soul but i want something that will last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► more than 10 freaking minutes you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► it's called Aaron's car that's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► all my honda accords yes no look if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► reliable car there's lots of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► pretty much everything hot from honda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► toyota is lots of good odds are born as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► bar comas exciting is it going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► given a horsepower em right i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► saying this is this is a powerful engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► in it but it is ok but the thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► man's BMW racecar driver not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► ok but anyway test drive one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► anyway you won't be able to find a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► to test drive but you should well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► don't know maybe next time you visit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► can test drive mine and see what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► I mean I the thought has crossed my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► that maybe it is worth testing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5998">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► because my god it's just it's bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► that that all I I mean I ok I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► that what I'm about to say is a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► six-speed not front-wheel-drive car with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► four doors that gets to 60 in less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► six seconds that will last for more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► 60,000 miles is that so much to ask how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► I think five and a half ish something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► like that it's actually much quicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► than one would think i'm even go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► s4 if you want more out of it but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► certainly wouldn't be doing that knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► so here's the thing look I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► one of those like you know project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► management triangle situations like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► there's basically you have to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► pick like fast but crappy or like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► know slow but nice or use an expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► to maintain like he you have to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► apart these things or you raise the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► budget and you get divorced I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► one of those like one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► has to budge for you you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► willing to tolerate something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► don't want to tolerate right now so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► that is the shame of driving an Audi or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► its weather is shameful whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► spending more than you wanted to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► or whether it's having more high price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► maintenance down the road or giving up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► your entire soul and and driving an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► accord and I say this is somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► fought in the court at one time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► enjoy it for a couple years opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► cost to think about how much of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► could buy with the money you say buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► the accord and how much happier that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► would make you is there anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► would make Casey happier than a fast car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► John yeah that's the place I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► what you're driving at but this is casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► were talking about my college education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► for your children just saying this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► not going to make or break declan's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► college education from students right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► therefore I i think basically you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► you have a tough decision to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► John push you towards the accord John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► percent of the audi understand he should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► the court isn't as bad as you make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► out to be but nobody wants something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► faster so the quarters in it so tragic I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► mean basically since none of the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► of us have driven the current generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► apparently the newest a4a yeah I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► come around I think you should try that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► because i do find the the f generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► of bmw's the f30 generation of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► used to be pretty underwhelming a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► expensive for you get that being said so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► is the audi however think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► worth trying but let's let's go build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► one as well we can keep talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► let's build an ally i started down that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► path and I guess I just wasn't there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► currently no s4 is it is like between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► update update generations like just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► what color would i get me turn off locks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► wine myself I I don't know what color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► you would get me i'll be a primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► teacher III don't know how to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► consider picking a color for you you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► got to get with the program it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► the year of the red car so you gotta do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► what you gotta do right now is it ok we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► can go read I tomorrow right car I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► come on i'm not sure how this looks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► red it looks ok but I and I wonder if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► howdy howdy historically makes a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► good premium black that is a nice black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► actually I can't do a black car stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► stop I can't do what I mean look at him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► like four different shades of white this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► literally they have let's see there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► there's glacier white metallic there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► Florence silver which is so light it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► basically matt is basically white bears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► QB silver which is kind of champagne but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► there's ibis white which is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► white and there's monsoon gray which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► so this is this maybe this actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► your brand maybe maybe all these years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► talking about BMW that we have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► wrong all this time and you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► wanted a brand that has five different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► shades of white on every every new car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► to choose from the 19-inch wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► because i'm an idiot i gottayou gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► pick the sport plus package go with 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► is the 19 that I 890 don't look that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► much better than 18 that they ride with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► veteran 18 you're such an old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► no seriously right well you was one inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► difference you're not going to build the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► eyeball it's not like you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► deal with the fact that your wheels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► it'll be fine no listen this pussy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► performance-wise you're roughly in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► the 328 category of performance here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► you're spending like 45 thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► at least 47 875 that's the thing like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► price-wise it's not eight I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► pretty much the same as BMW like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► you option it up the way you want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► you're like they're both very expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► for what you're getting that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► mean you shouldn't do it as you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► often argue on the other side of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► but but i'm just pointing out that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► this is not a great value compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► mw2 it's gonna be about the same like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► the same ballpark doesn't get of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► it doesn't mention 0-60 time I would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► I could swear I 17 seconds in the temple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► days i was gonna say okay I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► I mean like that's good but like is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► is that like 50000 dollars in 2017 good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► mmm yeah see now i'm coming back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► Gulf are let's say where is that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► no not golf r yeah you're too old for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► this no bread love their friend brad has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► one in it it's like he's not too old for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► people were all the same age but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► pulls it off of that we wouldn't pull it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► you make a good point actually it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► also a lot cooler than us that he was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► California like it he can pull that off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► we can't let you know you if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► go to door speaking of German you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► kidding about you know the accord coupe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► 20 16 5.6 seconds i do not want to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► door wasn't his fault i can state not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► working for you or my paramus volkswagen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► doesn't work try and come out I'll stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► what about the last item on this list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► which one is that the voice option yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► yes it's not it's a hundred thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► dollars market by 2a fours about to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► the model s you can get a useful model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► answer 50k that's where things get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► interesting him but inviting mkbhd I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► don't think you want to say when we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► about you know maintenance costs i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► definitely not want to keep model s past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► warranty but i think that's a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► thousand miles so if you if you get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► that's like right off least like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► know thirty 30 ish k miles then it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► probably need almost no work for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► five years until you really wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► you know until then I'll start getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► really high and then you would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► be a trade-in for something else at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► point but because like you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► there are used model s there aren't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► lot of them because three years ago they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► weren't selling that many so we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► that there are many of them to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► from but they do come in they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► usually like you have to call the dealer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► sometimes like they're not using baby is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► okay there you go with that I put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► chat but the problem is there's no 90 DS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► which is what you an underscore have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► I think would be a perfectly reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► well the nineties only existed for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► ok well there you go so you won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6418">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► looking at maybe it would be the 85 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► d but it but all the DS all the dual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► model the dual motor ones have only just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► for I think about two years or so so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► problem is i would want the dual motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► for the acceleration not because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► necessarily need to drive it is better i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► mean just in general too much but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► new motor was a substantial improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► to the car so you do know that he 85 d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► the cheapest one they have is 80 grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► so i could buy the P model that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► one that's new 430,000 on it that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► the first entry they have that has dual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► motor is the p85 d 4 80 grand with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► 15,000 miles that's kind of awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► that's kind of Awesome actually thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► dollars so fast that is but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► one that I test drove and I felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► was gonna smack in the face and notices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► too fast you can just stand there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► I could almost buy in a 4 and a goal far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► yeah well I can't just 25 the cords or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► five and hordes III can't justify it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► can i buy i'm not saying there's a7 ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► on here for 67,000 you could drive a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► different corner and every day of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► haha oh my god that 70 is a hideous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► yes it isn't that weird like champagne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► you spilled some champagne and into some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► snow slush I've seen more of the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► mustache Model S's and they really grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► on me and I like it better than the fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► did they look less hideous to me now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► they still look weird like I I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► out like by the time it's time for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► but it's still weird right now yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► mean it's worse than white obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► right but are in lighter colors but its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► turnaround having seen them to now when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► I see one of the old ones i know who i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► mean i never really liked the big ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► gag but the defense knows depends on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► looks pretty looks better in real life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► oh man I disagree i've seen it a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► the point is over this is a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► choose from already and because the dual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► model versions have only existed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► like a year and a half or two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► there's probably about to be lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► them coming in like an inventory over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► considering heavily I would I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► gonna necessarily say that you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► definitely do this but it solves a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► of problems it's not a lot of problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► it is faster than everything else you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► looking at first of all it is way lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► maintenance it all in all likelihood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► especially like the newer you go like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► once you into the degeneration they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► ironed a lot of the early problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► one anyone you're still covered under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► the warranty you know that solves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► everything right there you pay something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► like I think it's like 500 bucks a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► for like this giant big inspection they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► do every year but thats it thats that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► your entire total maintenance costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► until I need to spend twenty thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► dollars to replace all the batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► hypothetically buying has between 15 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6597">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► I think it's like 10 years it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► really far into it's basically you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► really keep the car that long is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► answer to that question remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► I'm telling you that Aaron's car is nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► and a half years old almost everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► you're looking at you're all these pics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► you're not going to keep those pics for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► 10 years like not none of them you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► gonna hear you will you will own none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► those when they are 10 years old over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► the record obviously one of those when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► there 8 years old how old how old is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► your car now like six or something not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► even that old right it was delivered to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► the original owner in December of 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► if i remember right yeah so it's six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► mhm and it's already so expensive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► maintain that you're trying to get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► yeah but that's because I didn't buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► boring Japanese car that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► where and so that's my point is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► going to have high maintenance costs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► all the cars in this list any car that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► be happy driving is not going to crush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► your soul and running with a person you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► are going to have high maintenance costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► if you're if you want to keep it past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► basically is probably about as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6658">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► you can go without things getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► you're gonna have to pay a lot for every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► car none of them are like particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► no matter how you own a car you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► pay a lot because you want a fast car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► you're gonna pay more simple as that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► matter how you slice it matter how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► arrange it matter whether you buy new or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► used or lease whether you get bitten by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► like bad maintenance lucky with this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► no matter what there is no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► constitute continuously drive fast cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► without spending a ton of money on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► this is this is a place you have chosen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► to spend your money you are an adult you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► are a good person you make a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► living but you can do that it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► fine you don't indulge yourself in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► this is what you do it's okay this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► you are the boy and we're not even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► the shoulder doesn't have an angel on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6718">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► except yeah a little saying that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► seriously like influence in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► like this is this matters a lot to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► you get a lot of joy out of this you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► take a lot of your life happiness from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► driving a nice fast car which actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► maybe makes me wonder if my priorities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► are screwed up but i understand all say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► look everyone has something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► you know I'd be happy the years is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► something relatively harmless like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► and not like drugs or you know I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► like a lot of people devices are way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► worse than drugs drugs or mac pros on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► the plus side i don't i don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► yeah we don't exactly at that anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► says they could be so much worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► just like Marco exactly like it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► so what I'm saying is really as he pens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► so basically like what I'm saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► don't don't feel guilty that you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► nice fast cars and don't try to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► yourself down from what you really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► interment choice you have to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► decision you have to be driving whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► you pick that's gonna be your car for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► the next at least few years and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► you shouldn't talk yourself down out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► like you know Casey self-doubt like let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► your friends encourage you at least this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► one don't listen to that one talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► about something for in Japanese listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► to this friend you're just driving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:27 ◼ ► that's what i told them i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6807">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► fair i think test driving a four is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► reasonable i think if I were a betting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► man I'd probably get the Golf R because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► it's the it's the least amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► compromise all-in-all basically the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► thing I'm compromising on is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► really want to hatch back although there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► is some convenience that comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► that's a big thing but interior always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► gonna be worse than the a4 by a lot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► don't think it'll be a lot now i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► not sat in a mini golf in a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► but people that are friends of mine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6833">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► Volkswagen interiors and by proxy audi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► as well I happen to like BMW interiors i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► happen to like the way BMW think because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► i think the same way and i'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► think that I'm trying to figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► it like a specific thing I can cite I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► don't have any off the top of my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► but I Drive has always made sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► and stuff like that but but everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► I've understood is that Volkswagen gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► interiors right that you can debate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► exterior is you can debate a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► things that you can debate whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► not they make diesels that get more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► four miles a gallon but they they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► they do interiors right from what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► told and I mean it i think the plan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► if I'm really serious about this which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► think i am the plan is first to get in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► car because she's cheating needs one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► worse and she's next in line but after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► that test drive a golf are test driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► a four that's probably the entire may I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► probably test-drive focus st just to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► but it's probably one of these so may I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► mhm so you are you are prepared to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► probably fifty thousand dollars on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► nice day for potentially as potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► ok the a4 is pretty much what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► now it's moving you to the the newest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► version of what you're already driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► with a different shape logo on the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► it is it is not an upgraded is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► probably a downgrade in any meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► way slightly it's gonna be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► slower if that's where I end up ok so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► we're actually getting slower okay right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► okay you're losing a couple cylinders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► etc okay that's about 50 thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► dollars to do that for 55 you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► a brand-new fully loaded em to stop stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► with that noise problems the waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► list for them to is the way this for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► my car will be exploded by then they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► the m235i close enough look at bmw's are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► really nice cars when you don't pay to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► well that's true but i'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► punting my problem down the road and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► kicking ESO look I mean I i know you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► much as I want you to drive a Tesla I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► know that your left foot would fall off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► and you'd be upset as much as I want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► to have something nice and fast that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► a little the that's fast in other ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► like you know your little like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► I can't let you do that I just can't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► you drive hatchback you too old for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► it that's your dump that you realize all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► of Europe at any age grades denver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► California's different we live here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► the East Coast and we are boring geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► hatchback I can drive you have a kid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► Christ's sake you get not so that's out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► the a4 is is a great car i'm sure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► six-cylinder option anymore is that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► presumably probably less but that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► that would then be more money than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7018">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► about what you really want in it deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► down in your heart what you really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► is a 6-speed rear wheel drive BMW and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► it's it's all I want until the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► that that the warranty runs out and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► I need to get something different again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► if only there was a way to have a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► where you always under warranty that God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► the white m2 is hideous get eaten a blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► that you absolutely what I when I first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► yours out here just now I I picked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► surprisingly i also think the widest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► hideous and I think black is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► so yeah I think I think blue is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► you also do the m240 I which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:47 ◼ ► I've driven the m235i friend at work has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7067">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► one and it was thin nominal variable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:53 ◼ ► drive m235i m240 I is only 46 it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7073">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► that's actually pretty good compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► if I don't mind never being able to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7082">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► I mean you could it is a sure it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► you could but you wouldn't want this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► you were going to do that a lot but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► really what you would be happiest with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► it's probably something like this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:18 ◼ ► probably not settling for a volkswagen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7098">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► group made hatchback and the a4 would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:24 ◼ ► fine except it's pretty much a sideways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7104">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► step it's you you're getting what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► already had and actually slightly slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► because you're losing couple cylinders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► BMW makes good cars that you like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► they just suck to maintain you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► thing is the thing that pisses me off so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► I just price my m2 and I came up 55-200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► you but the thing that really pisses me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► off about in the summary page says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:46 ◼ ► you're on to coop and there's you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► panoramic view that you can smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► quasi panoramic view of the car and man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:53 ◼ ► does it look good but right under that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► estimated least a hundred twenty-nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► dollars on a star p is Bill 2520 to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► next item on the list their 64.1 second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► it's like you get me BMW you guys get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:06 ◼ ► can't I can't do another BMW I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7146">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► angry about it right now it's can come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► wait cool off run some numbers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:15 ◼ ► consider all your options really late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7155">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► don't don't rule anything out unless it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► wouldn't make you happy to drive then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► goodbye mom sorry truth i'm not sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:28 ◼ ► a4 would make me terribly happy but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7168">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► exactly you're actually getting slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► than your current car like this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:34 ◼ ► saying like when when you during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7174">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► good days of what when you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► during these good days were you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► thinking that your next car would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► exactly you're thinking man this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7188">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► great car and my next is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► even faster you're thinking of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► them three next and i totally agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► you that the current m3 is ridiculously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7195">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► probably not the right move but and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► it's what I I've that there's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTya10Y/7204">TS</a>]
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