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Cortex 46: External Thinking Tool

 

00:00:00   previously on cortex what I did and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:03   I was kind of alluding to is this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05   where i have spent a very significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5">TS</a>]

00:00:09   part of January breaking down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/9">TS</a>]

00:00:12   entirety of how do i work what are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/12">TS</a>]

00:00:16   systems around work how do i use task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18   management how do i organized notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   breaking down absolutely everything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   nothing and starting over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/22">TS</a>]

00:00:27   you've got the voice for that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30   really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/30">TS</a>]

00:00:31   should look into that I swear to God I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   would do voiceover work if I could do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36   really would seem that seems great shall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   I try as well yeah you go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   previously on cortex I should maybe try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/40">TS</a>]

00:00:45   it with the American accent I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   works back with the American accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/47">TS</a>]

00:00:48   right can you do with an American accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   so shall i say let's see what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   previously on cortex know those terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55   American successful previously on cortex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   this is getting worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   you need to abort Mike I just end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/60">TS</a>]

00:01:04   just moving further and further south [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   down my American accent attempt yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   your first go was the best and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   Alaska was the worst alright well at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   least we know the two of us who do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   voice of work when it's time for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/74">TS</a>]

00:01:15   movie so yeah last time you spoke a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/75">TS</a>]

00:01:21   little bit about the fact that you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   decided to go bare bones with your task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/83">TS</a>]

00:01:28   management break everything down go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/88">TS</a>]

00:01:33   new unmentioned location somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/93">TS</a>]

00:01:38   england i suppose and all my other node [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/98">TS</a>]

00:01:42   maybe went to the continent who knows i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   was in an undisclosed location in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   finnish scandia that my wife sent me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/107">TS</a>]

00:01:51   because you because you were she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/111">TS</a>]

00:01:57   me she knows me very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   hey yeah it was like hey buddy it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   to start making some money again need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   get out of the house and you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   so you you were flown off to a faraway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   land and you you broke everything down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/131">TS</a>]

00:02:14   and you start it over for your review at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17   the year and you did it on pen and paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   which is which is very different to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   to the usual great way right of ipads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   and and and the like you know that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   believe in you decided to break it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   down and I wanted to kind of touch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32   this a little bit when did you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/152">TS</a>]

00:02:35   realize that pen and paper was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   system to kind of do a a retooling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/158">TS</a>]

00:02:42   your task management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43   okay Mike we need to we need to rewind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/163">TS</a>]

00:02:47   all the way back to a childhood gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/167">TS</a>]

00:02:51   home little gray from a long time ago my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/171">TS</a>]

00:02:55   father is a lawyer and he's always had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/175">TS</a>]

00:02:58   around the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/178">TS</a>]

00:03:00   these legal pads ever since I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   little kid and they have always been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/182">TS</a>]

00:03:07   thing that i would like sketch on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10   and right on and always felt like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/190">TS</a>]

00:03:15   like an external thinking tool like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/195">TS</a>]

00:03:20   do i think i need to write something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   down ever since I was a little kid this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   is always a thing that I have done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   throughout my life as I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   transitioned from various tools and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/208">TS</a>]

00:03:31   different ways of working i have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/211">TS</a>]

00:03:35   been aware that there is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/215">TS</a>]

00:03:39   is just different about paper that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/219">TS</a>]

00:03:44   really helpful in some scenarios and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/224">TS</a>]

00:03:48   when I was a teacher i ran my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51   system entirely on paper because i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/231">TS</a>]

00:03:56   that that was actually the best tool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   solve the problem that i was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   solve at that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/240">TS</a>]

00:04:01   and if for some reason I went back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   being a teacher I would almost certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   do the same thing again that I would run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   that system on paper because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   cases where paper is just better like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   having a clipboard with a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   sheets arranged in a particular way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16   sometimes you're never going to beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   that like not even with an ipad but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   more importantly that there's two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   that I did at the beginning of the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   is breaking down the organization system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   and doing the review these are slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   different tasks so in doing a big review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/271">TS</a>]

00:04:35   when I say here that i am using paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   that is paper in quotation marks because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/278">TS</a>]

00:04:42   i was actually using good notes on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/282">TS</a>]

00:04:45   ipad with paper templates so i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/285">TS</a>]

00:04:49   worked with Frank a designer that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   have worked with for relaying who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   fantastic and i knew i was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   doing just a ton of this like thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   work for my seasonal review and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   message Frank and I asked him to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   for me a whole bunch of templates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/306">TS</a>]

00:05:10   were legal pad papers so I had him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/310">TS</a>]

00:05:14   essentially recreate from my childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/314">TS</a>]

00:05:19   all over the possible paper templates a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/319">TS</a>]

00:05:23   man could want and was like listen buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/323">TS</a>]

00:05:27   i'm going to be doing a bunch of writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   and a bunch of thinking I'm gonna need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   some graph papers i'm going to need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   yellow legal paper i'm gonna need wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   line i'm going to need narrow line i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   going to need them in blue and green and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/337">TS</a>]

00:05:40   pink and he ended up creating for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   just a fantastic set of these papers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45   even added in a very extremely subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48   soft paper texture which was really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/348">TS</a>]

00:05:52   he's a professional inna it is he's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   professional these things were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   great and this is a case where for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/356">TS</a>]

00:06:00   thinking about stuff paper i find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   useful tool that's hard to in some sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/362">TS</a>]

00:06:07   it's hard to say what's going on but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/367">TS</a>]

00:06:10   allow it allows me to kind of like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   out and sketch out some ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   you have this this free form this too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/374">TS</a>]

00:06:17   like you're not constrained into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   particular application and so when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   doing a bunch of reviews and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   about my workflow it was really much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   a process of like I'm just gonna sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   here in this undisclosed location in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   Scandia and i'm going to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/389">TS</a>]

00:06:32   digital paper in front of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   alright so okay you lost me just a touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   here huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/397">TS</a>]

00:06:38   there was never actual paper know we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   get to the real paper Mike don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42   there's a paper we're going to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   that end it right good but i just wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   I want to specify like there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/406">TS</a>]

00:06:47   different things here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48   ok so I'm sitting down with the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   paper and just kind of writing out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   going through the seasonal review as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   soon as one of you has like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   questions that I sort of asked myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/418">TS</a>]

00:06:59   and things I'm thinking about but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   really like having the digital paper for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05   this stuff because i do like to keep a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   record of the previous reviews that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   have done and so I want to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   kind of sometimes go back and see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   whatever I looked at in the past like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14   what has been on my mind so I do like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/434">TS</a>]

00:07:17   have a record of this stuff and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/437">TS</a>]

00:07:21   an enormous amount of like sketching and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23   other things that I'm doing that help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/443">TS</a>]

00:07:26   with thinking through things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   something else that I did was like I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   by hand recreated a little overview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/451">TS</a>]

00:07:35   calendar for the entire year and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   using that to roughly plan out like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   are things going to happen in the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41   what are their periods of the year where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   I'm going to be busy what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/463">TS</a>]

00:07:44   periods where I'm not going to be busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   and this is a case where like doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/465">TS</a>]

00:07:49   by hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   even though in in some ways like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/471">TS</a>]

00:07:52   that's ridiculous you could download a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   PDF that would have an overview calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   for the year and just feeling like yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   that's true but there's something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00   doing it this way that is intentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/480">TS</a>]

00:08:05   that it it it slows you down and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/485">TS</a>]

00:08:09   focuses your mind very clearly on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/489">TS</a>]

00:08:12   task at hand so I i find this just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/492">TS</a>]

00:08:16   ridiculously useful and very valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/496">TS</a>]

00:08:20   process to kind of like rethink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23   absolutely everything about what i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26   doing and in the process of doing this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/506">TS</a>]

00:08:30   realized that I wanted to rework my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/510">TS</a>]

00:08:34   entire organization system which brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/514">TS</a>]

00:08:38   us to the actual physical paper Mike are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   you happy we get to the real paper at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   this point I am very happy but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   something I want to go back to ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   tumbling across I want to redo my entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/527">TS</a>]

00:08:51   organizational system is quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   revelation to have I just I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/534">TS</a>]

00:08:58   just have to point to that like how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   you get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01   well like that's not your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/541">TS</a>]

00:09:02   run-of-the-mill everyday kind of thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   which is like I want to redo everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   especially as someone you really pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10   lot of attention to this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   something you've filled around with for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   an amount of time and come to a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   where you'd stuck to write so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   over the show we spoke about you move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   into to do moving away from the focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   back to only focus because it gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   what you needed with the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   trade-offs and and that was where you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   stayed and it really sounded like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   I'm there I'm in it GTD forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/570">TS</a>]

00:09:34   I think they're there is an undercurrent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   of GTD not working that great for me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/575">TS</a>]

00:09:38   the show when I do talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/580">TS</a>]

00:09:40   yep like this this to me fits into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/580">TS</a>]

00:09:44   question of though I didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/584">TS</a>]

00:09:45   word for it at the time the year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48   redirection mm and so what's occurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/588">TS</a>]

00:09:52   here is as i was doing this big review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/592">TS</a>]

00:09:56   as i was spending a bunch of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/596">TS</a>]

00:09:57   concertedly focusing on on how do i work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/597">TS</a>]

00:10:01   i was just thinking of a lot of the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   that in the previous year i had had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/603">TS</a>]

00:10:06   frustrations or difficulties or like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/606">TS</a>]

00:10:10   lack of smoothness in a bunch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   ways that i work and the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/612">TS</a>]

00:10:17   was thinking about I decided okay I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   going to start over and build up it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/619">TS</a>]

00:10:23   like I'm still in this process now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   don't have a definitive answer for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   what have I built up to i'm still very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   much in in the middle of thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   all of this and working on this but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/631">TS</a>]

00:10:32   doesn't necessarily mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/632">TS</a>]

00:10:35   that I'm building up to something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   is entirely new and different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   whatever it is that I used before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/640">TS</a>]

00:10:44   it's like we mentioned last time when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47   were discussing talking with another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   person forces you to think about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   reasons for why are you doing a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   and starting over with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/653">TS</a>]

00:10:58   like how am I going to arrange my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   this this is a way of like oh I've built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/661">TS</a>]

00:11:04   up this castle but let me let me take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   apart and let me examine all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   individual bricks and then say like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   this is this brick should this brick be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/673">TS</a>]

00:11:13   should this thing be replaced as we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   building up to some kind of structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   that we're going to live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18   let's re-examine the decisions that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   made because maybe some of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   and i know for a fact some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24   things are built on foundations that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   years old at this point it's like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   these assumptions still hold true is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/688">TS</a>]

00:11:31   this still the best way to work for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/694">TS</a>]

00:11:34   maybe maybe not so that so that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/694">TS</a>]

00:11:38   this like rebuilding the system is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/698">TS</a>]

00:11:42   a it's a way to force re-evaluation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/702">TS</a>]

00:11:46   all of the parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   yeah it's not something that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   do very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/709">TS</a>]

00:11:50   hi it's been a long long time since I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/710">TS</a>]

00:11:54   done something this extreme so yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57   it's just that that's what's occurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   here this episode of cortex is brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   to you by Ministry of supply whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/722">TS</a>]

00:12:06   is you have to wear to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07   it almost certainly is not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/727">TS</a>]

00:12:10   something that you would want to wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/730">TS</a>]

00:12:11   all the time it's uncomfortable it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   restrictive it's too hot or it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17   cold and by the end of the day it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20   going to look terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   enter ministry of supply they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25   performance clothes for the modern-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   workplace launched by MIT engineers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/747">TS</a>]

00:12:31   ministry of supply combines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32   human-centric research performed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   technology and Taylor designs to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   wear to work clothes for men and women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39   like dress shirts blouses and pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   these garments work with your body to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   provide maximum comfort combined with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   features like temperature control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   wrinkle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/768">TS</a>]

00:12:48   resistance and extreme stretch to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/768">TS</a>]

00:12:51   you a sharp professional look all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54   this is what a clothing company should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   be there using technology to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/776">TS</a>]

00:12:59   clothing that actually is comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   over a long period i went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   Ministry of supply stuff all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   and if I still had to go into work as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/785">TS</a>]

00:13:09   teacher you can bet I'd be wearing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12   fully Ministry of supplied outfit every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/792">TS</a>]

00:13:16   day all day i was always way too hot as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   a teacher and the thing that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   like about tons of their shirts is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   they keep you nice and cool their men's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/802">TS</a>]

00:13:26   ministry of supply future forward dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   shirt has NASA invented fibers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   regulate body temperature based on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33   surroundings and they've also started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   with socks to the smarter dress socks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/815">TS</a>]

00:13:38   are made of coffee fiber that wicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   sweat and absorbs odor ministry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   supply offers a free shipping free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/822">TS</a>]

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00:13:51   purchase go to Ministry of supply.com / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54   cortex or you can visit any of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57   nine retail stores in locations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   including San Francisco atlanta and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   chicago mention the show in store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   also get fifteen percent off so once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07   again go to Ministry of supply.com / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   cortex to get fifteen percent off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   first purchase thanks to Ministry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   supply for keeping me cool and thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   for supporting the show now let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   about the paper okay of course in right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   now he's obsessed with the paper Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   you're obsessed with the paper i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   even gonna ask you what pen and paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26   using like physical stuff so I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   only going to upset me i couldn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   tell you what i was using this is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34   didn't want to ask because I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   need to say that will you tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   something that would just make me sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/877">TS</a>]

00:14:38   like Oh what was in the hotel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   don't worry about that is the and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/880">TS</a>]

00:14:45   went on a quest i gave you pens you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/885">TS</a>]

00:14:49   yeah but it's like dude was in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   other location you know as user was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   working with the tools that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54   available to me at the time it was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/894">TS</a>]

00:14:55   you just pick up the ipad that was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   as well right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58   whatever ipad they had laying around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   now however I brought my ipad pro with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/900">TS</a>]

00:15:03   me and then was working on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/903">TS</a>]

00:15:04   beautiful templates that Frank me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/904">TS</a>]

00:15:07   now for the actual physical paper i used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10   i used what was available to me like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   couldn't even tell you what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   besides it was a pen and they were index [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/914">TS</a>]

00:15:18   cards and pieces of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   ok I'm sorry I'm sorry okay its okay its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   okay i don't wanna talk about it okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   that's fine let's just move on from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   I want to go brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   so what what point this actual paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/927">TS</a>]

00:15:31   have to come into this you've clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/931">TS</a>]

00:15:32   gotten to a point where like I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   to do i'll get this digital paper that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/934">TS</a>]

00:15:35   will be better but then you still ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38   up coming back to physical pen and paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/940">TS</a>]

00:15:40   ok so again that the digital paper is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/940">TS</a>]

00:15:44   about the overall review and the Fate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47   one thing that falls out of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   rework the organization system as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   part of this process like this many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   other things that fall out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/953">TS</a>]

00:15:54   overall review but this is just one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55   those things now why am I using actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/955">TS</a>]

00:16:00   physical paper to try to rework the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   system it's because just like just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/962">TS</a>]

00:16:09   the digital paper kind of frees you from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   a bunch of the constraints that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/971">TS</a>]

00:16:14   sort of do whatever you want with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   when i'm working with physical paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/975">TS</a>]

00:16:19   it's a similar thing of like I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   to write down what like what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22   things that are on my mind like what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   the things that I'm trying to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25   towards and what I ended up doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   again having a bunch of index cards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/987">TS</a>]

00:16:31   pieces of paper and just sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   what I'm trying to do is put the work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   front of me so that i can see it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/996">TS</a>]

00:16:39   right that I can like look at everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/999">TS</a>]

00:16:42   all at once and think about how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45   want to arrange this kind of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:48   though I am a man with many ipads there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:52   are not enough iPads in the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   it's not convenient enough to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   have like a table where there's seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   iPads in front of me where i've written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   a bunch of things like with actual paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   you can really spread out and then try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   to move things around like organize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   stuff and so does this go over here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   so it's a way of thinking visually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:12   and thinking physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   like rearranging items and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   moving things so this is a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:18   advantage of using actual physical paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:22   for for this kind of thing I also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   it's a big advantage that if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:29   know what it is that you want to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:33   can't answer the question what tool is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:37   best for accomplishing this task and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40   many of the times when we have discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   in the past task managers or similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   tools it becomes very much a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   like what are the features of this task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:52   manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53   what can it do versus what other task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   managers can do you know the joy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   switching from one task manager to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   another is really a process of learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   how the programmers of the task manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   want you to arrange all of your things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   yep and like anytime you use any task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:11   manager doesn't matter what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   doesn't matter how fantastic it is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   is some process of you need to mold your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:20   mind to the way the programmer thinks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:24   is sensible to organize information is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   this is fundamentally unavoidable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   that is also i always say that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   an infinite market for task managers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:34   because everybody thinks in a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   different way and everybody wants a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   slightly different set of features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   the market can always accept another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:41   task manager for whom sums portion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   the audience will say oh that is perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   for me it does this one thing in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   way that is just right for my brain so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   putting all of the work on paper is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   is a way to avoid that it's a way to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:56   to think about how to organize stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   without feeling constrained by things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:01   like who does this task manager support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   start dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:05   how does this thing handle recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   items it's like that that's down in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   weeds that's down in the details and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   trying to think about it from a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   higher level of like what is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   that I'm working on what am I trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   achieve here so i'll just say at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   point that i am into doest now which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:25   something i've been talking about for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   far too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   mmm the process of moving the tasks was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   horrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   I i can only imagine because it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   be done manually of course and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:40   things that I like about it and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   are things that I don't like about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   who one of my biggest things i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   like is exactly that around something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:47   like recurring tasks who has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   functionality for them but doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   really have the UI for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   who you have to write it in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   language of the understands that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   seen that there are nuances to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   language and everyone that I speak to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:04   that users to do this like once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05   learn the language you're good which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   totally appreciate and it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   language that i think will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   ultimate reason I stick with two doest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   because the idea of natural language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17   processing off not necessary natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:21   language but being able to speak to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   application is valuable for me it's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   i don't imagine ever moving away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   fantastic hell because I know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   type into fantastical the appointment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:36   right right and i love that and to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:41   has that feature i'm still getting my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   head around it but it is I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   will keep me there because i am able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   talk to doest and say to it i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:52   set this task at this date and I'm now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55   using projects which have never used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   before because it's really easy to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   those because you just type them in blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   so in a way to try and see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:03   categorizing this and honestly I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   the time tracking has helped me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:08   about projects in my to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   hmm and I'm trying to match those up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13   seeing what that looks like a giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16   things the same kind of names who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:20   don't know what that's going to result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21   in yet but I feel like that there could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   be something there that helps me kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   compartmentalize my work a little better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   i'm still playing around with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:30   automation I've signed up for a peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   them what I want to come back to that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   some point in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37   yeah that's a big thing that's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   thing but as a peer is a service like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42   this then that which allows you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   connect web services together as a peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47   is very powerful and a lot more powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:50   than its system that more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53   but more powerful and can do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   interesting things so I'm plotting still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   playing around all of that and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   work out how to do is scan and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   moving to google calendar and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   that stuff that stuff is all still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   play on a general day today so I i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:09   been running on the focus and to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   in parallel to make sure that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   working the way that I expect a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   thing to do that is a fun phase in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:18   transition like this is all the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   stuff I'm trying to avoid with paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   it's like Jesus Christ I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   think about this but that it that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   horrible phase where you're running to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   task managers because you want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   sure that the one isn't missing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31   that is still in the other one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   here's the thing i have an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   level of crosstown OmniFocus student to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   do this has to win my trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   oh yeah of course right and and just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   you know like even in the adding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   tasks can be like has it really set that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   to bring do it is like I've asked it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   do this every second Tuesday doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   understand what that is and like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   adding the tasks i was checking them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   and see and what day it will come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   next and blue so i'm i'm still in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   process and it's a disgusting process to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   be in but it's kind of just the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:06   these things have to go because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   unfortunately there is no share i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   wish that a protocol like email existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13   for tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   yeah keep dreaming buddy it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   going to happen now because we're too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:17   far down the rabbit hole but why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   such a thing exists it's too late now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   yeah but I really wish that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   like that did exist so we could move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   do applications as easily as we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   move email apps as ever anyone's isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:30   that a shuffle long enough will know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:31   that we love to do so i am i'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:37   interested in in continuing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   powerful todoist and I think that once i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   am used to it it really will be the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:44   natural language engine that keeps me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   they're more than anything else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   that has already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   by far away been the most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   part of it so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   even more interesting than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:56   automation which was the thing in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   brain is the reason who it was and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01   was the kicker and I think as time goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   on and integrate the automation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   will become a second pillar of Y to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   is just his superior for me i hope but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   the me just being able to type in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   also with using the Amazon echo dictate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   tasks this natural language engine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   think will become the reason that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   stick with it but it's it's I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   very much in the I wouldn't even call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   honeymoon phase basically me and to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   is to moved in together uh-huh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   currently we're finding the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   annoy each other about each other that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   we are in that phase right now and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   currently just trying to find some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41   common ground on some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   Oh Mike I understand I understand your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   pain here i really really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50   yeah it's like everything I'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   trying to avoid this for as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   possible before I'd like a witch tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   and switching for thing because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   such an enormous hassle it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   always a rejiggering your brain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04   thinking the way the other thing works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   it is a process of regaining trust in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:10   another it's yep it is no fun it is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:14   fun to do is the thing you want to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   as rarely as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   you're living in fear for a while yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:21   yeah there's an excellent way to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   looks like what-what terribly important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   thing is not going to happen because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:30   switch from only focus todoist what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1530">TS</a>]

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00:25:58   luckily my total amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1558">TS</a>]

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00:26:05   as we spoken before I try and run my to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1565">TS</a>]

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00:26:44   that to do it sticks because otherwise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   need to do this all over again going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1608">TS</a>]

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00:26:50   in reverse again if it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1610">TS</a>]

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00:26:53   before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1613">TS</a>]

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00:26:58   is notifications of alarms like of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1618">TS</a>]

00:26:59   notifying you of a task was really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:03   their implementation of it but they fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1623">TS</a>]

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00:27:07   until it was too late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1627">TS</a>]

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00:30:02   so I thought of a couple of examples to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1802">TS</a>]

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00:30:08   ones that we spoken about overtime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:11   and kind of what these applications are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   and then some of the the features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16   go into them though you have basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19   applications basic applications like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   reminders clear google tasks or Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:26   keep lose these are basically more along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   lines of keeping a list and maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:32   always maybe setting a Jew date to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   items many people don't set due dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37   times they just have lists which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   perfectly valid way of doing things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   it's just about kind of the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   work in the way that you need things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:47   then you have advanced applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   applications like OmniFocus and to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   and to do is to neighboring with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   things like automation functions with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   them to make reviews of your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   forecasts like where you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   multiple days but once who and there may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:04   be something like deferring tasks as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   well and you can kind of live anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   on this spectrum like I maybe run my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   to-do application more in the basic camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:15   but choose to use an advanced all loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   because i like to have if i want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:21   things like automation and AP is so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   our applications can talk to my to-do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   app which is to you know what pushed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   down this road and forecasts which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   really liked so I can see multiple days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32   at once and can kind of plan out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   coming over the next seven days but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   don't do a lot of the stuff that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1896">TS</a>]

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00:31:44   there's so many of those things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   don't do like deferring and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   that would you need advanced application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1909">TS</a>]

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00:31:59   from the things that I want to use but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02   something like reminders is too simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   for me to just have this one long list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07   that i always have to look at all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1927">TS</a>]

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00:32:11   reminders and all clear or something it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   to be a robust enough application for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1934">TS</a>]

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00:33:19   that there was not any end to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:23   system ever write like that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   sort of no sense of completion because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:31   had an enormous number of things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:34   OmniFocus and I had them tracked very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:38   very precisely and say okay this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   great this is a system that grew out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:43   my previous systems over a long period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   of time when i'm sitting here with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   pieces of paper trying to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48   how do i want to work this is a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   that i feel like i've identified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   something here which is a lack of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:56   sense of completion which is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   something that my old system that i used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:02   to use when I was a teacher was a a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   of that I was really aware of a building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   into that you know when the day is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10   because this part of it is complete the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:13   end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:14   oh ok this is an interesting thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   realize that I've worked myself into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   system that doesn't have that and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   a feature that I used to have and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   find very important and very helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24   would you say that maybe there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   something in the structure of your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29   now that that doesn't inherently have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   that end like when the kids go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:35   who there's maybe a couple of tasks left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:38   and then that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:39   right right so this is this is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   and I'm very very much of the belief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44   like things happen because it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   structure in the world right so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   like why did my system as a teacher have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   a clear end because there was a clearer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   way to end things as a teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55   and like why did the system that built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   up over years as a self-employed person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:58   not have any kind of end because well is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:01   this is this is the nature of the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   right this is this is the nature of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06   it is that I'm doing there isn't any and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   there's always more that can be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   it's like okay well after doing this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   a large number of years i'm realizing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   like this so much and so in redirecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:19   how my work is going to unfold over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23   part of what I'm really trying to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   building in regular distinct clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:29   breaks and trying to really stick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   those as much as possible like we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   how it actually goes but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35   that's the idea and so what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   thinking as well whatever system i build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40   up I wanted to be able to support this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:44   want to have some kind of clear and/or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:50   sort of cycle within the system so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53   is an example like what are the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   that I'm trying to identify around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   edges and that's one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   that I'm trying to identify around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   edges like can I build up something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   creates a sense of completion that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:06   also work with the schedule for what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:09   trying to do over the course of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   and so it's funny Mike because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   you have this list of of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:16   applications in the show notes of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   various to do managers and what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:22   like and you know what various features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23   do they have but the thing that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   been playing around with a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   just not even with the intention of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   using it as a primary task manager but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   just simply because like oh this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   digital tool that most closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   replicates the paper let me just play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   around with it a little bit is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   using Trello which I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   you've ever used or tried I use Trello a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:46   lot so do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   ok how would you describe Trello to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51   listener I'm not I'm not it i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   i am the worst person in the world to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   describe this tool because i think im [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:56   using it in a way that nobody intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   to be used yellow is built from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:02   process of Kanban em if you are familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:06   with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07   so if you know what that is you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   immediately visualized trailer if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:13   not familiar with it which many of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   would not be I wasn't until i use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   trailer for the first time imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   you have a bunch of tasks and you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:24   all of the tasks down on index cards who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   and you have a process that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:31   go through to get a task to be complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   so you line up all of your tasks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   there at the starting line and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   process can be written out in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:43   columns so you can have part 1 part 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   part 3 part 4 and you move each task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:50   across the columns so it moves from left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53   to right and then it is complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   that is like the easiest way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   would describe how this type of trellis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   system would work in that you what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   are doing is taking things and moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   them around from place to place and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:06   they're being moved you can update them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   you can add information to them but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   idea is that you get them from the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   line to the finish line when you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   by visually moving them through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:18   process moving them from column to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   column and they can move backwards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   forwards depending on how you set up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   columns but they were always moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:25   through so the way that i use Trello a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:29   lot is raised for the sale of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:33   sponsorship so Stephen set this up and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36   told him that i feel like i didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   a good visibility for how sponsors were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42   sawed through our process and I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   to work with him so we could understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   it better together and he created this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   thing in Trello so every sponsor is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:51   card so there are little card and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   imagine the sponsors an index card and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56   we move them through our process from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   initial contact made to if we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   progressing to a sale and then if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   sold so that is what i use Trello for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   lot we also use it for when we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   setting up big event and we also use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   Trello four goals were setting goals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   even for our assistant so when we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   looking at trying to hire an assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:16   we have a trouble board for that and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   have all of the different tasks that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:21   may want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:21   to do and when they might do them and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   it's the right person and all that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   of stuff so me and even use Trello a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   to plan big picture stuff for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30   I didn't realize I was speaking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   travel expert and I thought you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   have like a passing familiarity with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   was like oh Trello i have 20 of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   have all the great general but so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:42   you go that's what i use Trello for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   considering the fact that you were using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47   index cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   I'm not surprised that you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   something like trailer yet again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   wouldn't even say that i'm using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   under playing around with it but yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   it's an interesting thing to play around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57   with because not entirely but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01   largely avoid the problem of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:06   learning a specific task manager because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   it just simply doesn't do most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   things that most task managers do and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   is very malleable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   yeah it's very malleable and importantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   it's very visual so I ok let me move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:19   these things around and so I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   going through this process of sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   working on paper putting things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   Trello sometimes rearranging things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   Trello and then sometimes writing it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   all again on paper just to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   like I let me let me mess around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:32   this is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33   it's an iterative cycle back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   thinking about how to best organize my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:37   work you know Trello is is really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:40   to use if the work that you're doing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43   a process that is not dictated by Trello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   yeah like there is an external process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50   that has to happen and Trillo can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   support that select for creating YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:55   videos the process can just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   different stages in which they are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   if you're working on multiple youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   videos a time you can move them through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   from process part the process part you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:05   yeah it's it's relatively free form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:10   compared to most other things which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13   would say is that both its strength and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   its weakness but it's it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   interesting thing to play around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   I know a while back I had sort of mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23   with it a little bit just as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:24   interesting to look at and and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   really thought about it much since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   it was recently a quiet Oh some oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:33   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   yeah she's like how the acquired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   news/wall 11 it was acquired by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   company that would feasibly want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   system that it is that way but they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   just change the business model with ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   who knows all we know is acquired yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   but yes it's an interesting tool just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   check out and it's a thing that i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   been i've been thinking about and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:55   stumbledupon it because as i was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   to work through my system I i did just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   keep thinking of some stuff that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:04   mentioned in the past as having looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:07   at but I i spent a lot of time very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:08   seriously looking at which is scrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:12   which is a a working process that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:17   clearly designed for teams is not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20   designed for individuals but has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:23   interesting parts to it that feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:27   oh maybe this could work with the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:30   that I want to work and it involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33   things like having clearly defined start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:37   and end times for particular batches of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   work which is a feature that I'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41   looking at and the other thing I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44   really aware of when I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:45   about how i worked in the past and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:48   one thing that having like a a list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:51   tasks that are falling out of templates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54   that doesn't that doesn't serve so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57   is coming up with realistic estimates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:02   for how much can you do at a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:06   time and and this is something else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:09   like a the process of scrum attempts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   do again with one person it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   very well at all it's designed for teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15   but it's something that I've just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   thinking about like out are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:21   their pieces of this that I can adapt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   for individual use for the way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   want to work and so like this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   thing I spent some time on you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   read a couple of books on scrum and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   again very it's very funny to to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   book that's like design for a gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   corporation of like how does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   gigantic corporation or range there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   many multiple teams across entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   systems that like I'm just trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   read through it and see like is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   something here that I can pull out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:51   myself but it's through that process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:54   like okay scrum is this process it uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:57   tools like Trello let me just play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   around with Trello let me just explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02   this a little bit while I'm in this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   building up phase so that's where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   with my current state of things i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:11   have to say I feel a bit like I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   like I'm on a tightrope without a net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   because i'm not using any of my regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20   ok I've I really did burn everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   down to the ground so you like actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   using no app right now like other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:28   Trello tinker around with at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   I am literally using nothing except like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:35   some index cards and some Trello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   tinkering but it is a a very temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40   phase like this doesn't last forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:41   because this is this is partly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   going back to the the idiots pre any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   system me like I'll just remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   things that I have to do which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   terrible strategy is horrible it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   absolutely horrible strategy and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   really doing it but it's like okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   mostly have three big things to keep in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   mind like the next video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   the next hello Internet the next cortex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   are these are the three main things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   i really need to keep track of and so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   can run on that for a little while while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   I think about how does the rest of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:11   system work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12   ok and i think that it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   genuinely beneficial to do this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   it is just as finding the edges of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:20   what what do I need what do I need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   I i have have a little bit of of support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:27   in the fact that before doing this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:28   moved some basic reminder things into to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:32   do so that there's like maybe 20 little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:36   recurring items into do then just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   I'm always gonna forget this stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   this is just the bare minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:40   it might as well be reminders yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   guess between down your calendar like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   you you're getting through without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   the pic system supporting you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   exactly and what's also face like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   by using to do and by using a calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   i'm already using more tools than like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   many people I know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   to really work but it's like from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   relative perspective it's like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   precarious situation here so i am i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:05   just i'm just playing around with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   things and trying to figure out what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   it that I ultimately want to build up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   and my current state is I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:15   pull out the useful parts of systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:20   like Kanban the useful parts for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:24   still relevant parts i should say of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   getting things done and trying to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:28   there's a way to like adapt scrum too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:31   sensible individual use but I would be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:35   would be very curious to hear from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   anybody in the audience if they have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:40   other kind of like actual systems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:44   they use or that they care to recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   like I'm in a very open accepting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   feedback time of my system so I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51   curious to see if anybody has any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   thoughts on any systems leave links in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:56   the comments and I will definitely check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:57   things out and spend a bit more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:00   exploring today's episode of cortex is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:03   40 you by dice dice has been helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06   tech professional's advance their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   careers for more than 20 years they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   the tools and insights needed to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   you an edge the dice careers mobile app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:15   is the premier tool to manage your tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   career from anywhere with thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   positions from top companies available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:20   you'll find the next move that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   looking for wondering what's next in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   your career dices new career pathing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   tool help you learn about new roles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   based on your job title and skills don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   even show you which skills that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:32   gonna need to make the move the dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35   careers market value calculator allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   you to understand exactly what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   skills are worth as well discover your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   market value based not only on your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   title one location but based on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   specific skillset look don't just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   for a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48   manage your technology career with dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   download the guys mobile app and learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   more at dice.com / cortex thank you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56   for their support of this show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   really FM it is that time again cgpgrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:01   ass cortex return to our audience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:05   amazing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   hello audience hello audience and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   are people that submit their questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10   too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:11   on twitter with the hashtag ask cortex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13   or they leave comments in our reddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16   thread and they go through and they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19   give me some questions that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   like for us to discuss on the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   we will start off today with Phil office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26   last week our sleep schedules like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   you have a particular times that you aim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   to go to better wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   what are those times why those times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:36   what effect of this have on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   productivity when you're observing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39   where you live on east coast time dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   Mike isn't that your sleep schedule out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   of Mike time now I don't even like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   even anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   what is what does that mean that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   live on Mike time because it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   adapted on warped so much like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:58   originally thought i was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   living in east coast time but it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   really turned out to be that way hm i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   to sleep between 12am and 3am oh god and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:12   i wake up between 8am and 10am all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:17   those times not match up in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   you would think that they might for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   that's all right I see really what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   you're going for here yeah i went to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   at 2am i feel it i think last night that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30   132 am somewhere between there and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:34   woke up at eight twenty today but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37   day before I went to sleep I think at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:41   like 130 and i woke up at ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:45   okay it's all over the place i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:49   expressed to you the last time that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   met up that I'm becoming more interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   in sleep tracking as well and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   something that is on my radar to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59   find the tool or tools that work for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   to allow me to do this because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05   know what effects it has on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08   productivity honestly who because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:12   thesis is that it doesn't purely because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:16   as it stands right now my sleep schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:20   was so erratic who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   and my productivity is not very erratic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:26   is it at least the way I feel about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:29   because for me it's more like time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:33   I don't feel like I'm like all I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   very productive today so i didn't spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   much time working today or I spent a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   of time working today and as we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   already established a lot of the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   of time that I spent working is not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:46   how inspired was I that day because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49   worked so strictly to a schedule so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   there is a quality aspect that can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   judged by time so that's like a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   other thing which is really difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59   turn and nail down but there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02   inverse that I'm interested in which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   if I work longer hours do i wake up late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:09   the next day that's the only thing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   interested in learning right now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   recommend to you an app which is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   Auto sleep which is a thing that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:19   been using to track my sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   time-based just like the time tracker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   toggle from the recommendation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   Federico teecee out of your where Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:30   that guy's pretty good for recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31   things happy I live a lot of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   based upon the recommendation see gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   me that so i have been using auto sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   and get the app does a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:43   with regard to sleep but the only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   only thing I care about really which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49   what it does is it does a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:50   job of estimating just the length that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:54   was asleep when did i go to bed and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   did I wake up and I i want to track this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3116">TS</a>]

00:52:01   because for the longest time i used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:05   use an app called sleep cycle to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   sleep tracking but that suffered from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:10   the effect of I needed to turn it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   before I went to sleep and turn it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   when I woke up in the morning and here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   is the thing that I definitely know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19   looking at that sleep data is when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:23   need the sleep data the least is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:27   I'm able to record it the most so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:30   like I am a bang on my schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   everything's going great and waking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   at the exact same time ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   morning i'm having a nice productive day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:37   i'm going to sleep around the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   like yeah i've got tons of data for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   like perfect rock-solid everyday is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   same data and then they'll be periods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:47   where there's like there's no sleep data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:48   recorder whatsoever is like but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   what i want to sleep data the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   because those are the periods of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   where my sleep is less regular I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:58   staying up later which is terrible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   me and then i'm sleepy and I forget to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   turn the app on and then i'm not paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:03   any attention to when I wake up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   morning like this inverse correlation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:06   like I have data about my sleep over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09   past year but all indicates to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   like there's some gaps which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   probably not great times and so I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:18   prefer and like having something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:19   just doesn't automatically so I can keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   an eye on this kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   the reason that i do want to keep an eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   on it is is simply because i am really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:27   aware that that the sleep cycle has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:33   tremendous amount to do with how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   productive i am and like if I fall out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:41   of a regular sleep cycle that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:42   thing i really want to be aware of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   really want to keep an eye on because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   that that really matters for me and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   when I mean sometimes the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53   rebooting and and like getting back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   a productive phase one of the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58   things I am focusing on is like boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01   yourself back into a regular waking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04   cycle and that that has a huge effect on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07   the rest of my day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   so what are those times when others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   ideal times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   ok my my ideal wake-up time is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   sometime between five thirty and 6am is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   is my deal wake up time and yeah but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:24   thing is I'm an old man getting sleepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   at 9pm right and and like probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   asleep by ten o'clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:33   no ok feel like lying to himself about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   like I'm gonna read a book before i fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   asleep right but actually the falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   asleep immediately it is is the usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   night I'm like I'm going to read it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   no I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:44   I'm going to lie to myself I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   read a book i'm just gonna fall asleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47   immediately which is also why i'm i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:50   terrible dinner companion because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   are like let's have dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   okay great like I made an appointment at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57   eight like oh like eight o'clock at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00   night at night like you gotta get over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   to the early bird special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   ya think we can do yeah exactly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   I like I want to meet you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07   afternoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08   you know Mike if we ever socialize like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   when do we socialize 2 p.m. in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   afternoon talking about that's what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   great as my perfect time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15   everything's going great I've done all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   my work in the morning and now you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   me for the afternoon time when i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   going to get any work done anyway it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24   nice and early like that's what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:25   to socialize with people to p.m. and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   nobody else in the world wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   socialize at that time but but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32   from for me that that's a bigger thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33   like maintaining the regular sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   schedule it's a big deal and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   found that earlier is definitely better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:41   by like a huge order of magnitude in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   terms of actual productivity previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   on the show I recommended the retro 51 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   tornado as a pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   now this is your pen thing okay Brian's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53   were in to ask what is the fountain pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56   equivalent of this is not this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59   panicked all of a sudden what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   yes yes it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   look every now and then I want to throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   one in for me you know this is just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:07   my enjoyment right now so brian and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:11   would recommend the pen that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   already pointed out that your partner is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15   using and this is part of the reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   want to do this is about your partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:18   gift i would recommend the bank with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21   pilot metropolitan because it is a cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   an independent and it works great but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26   you want to go a little bit more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   this i would recommend for you at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   be eco lose our next move up i will put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   links in the show notes to these that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   good cuz i also this is a pendant thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   you this is a pen that takes think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   you need a bottle of ink for this and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   will also put a link to a line of inks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   that I think what really well of this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   is called the pilot 0 shizuka new line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:51   of inks today we'll all be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   shadows and i will recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   to anyone listening to this show to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   out even the retro do you want on any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   the pilot metropolitan not frisbee eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:01   if you have any care at all for pens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:05   because they are a fantastic tria yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08   don't just use whatever pens they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   in the hotel down Mike does not approve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   you deserve better listener but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:17   do our elven asked what did you both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:20   want to be when you grew up where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   want to be a professional podcaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:23   right Mike only from the age of like 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:27   21 may be okay if I had dreams as a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:32   you know what were your dreams like so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   wanted to be a few different things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   did actually want to be a radio DJ so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   okay so essentially a podcaster yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:42   that was when I was when I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43   young and then as I grew up a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:46   there were two two things that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   wanted to be one of them was a teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   and specifically for children with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:55   special needs was the thing that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   very interested in was a young man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:59   could see that I could see that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   something that i was i was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:02   passionate about but then kind of moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05   away from as I got older just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   also became quite career minded and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:12   seems like at least in teaching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   you're quite boxed in to the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   movement that you can take an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17   advancement that you can take there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   a lot of paths it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   yeah that is that is definitely correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   and i just learned about myself as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26   grew up that I needed to be challenged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   and that I felt like I would run out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:32   challenges before I then had to to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   something that maybe I wasn't interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   in being which was like a headmaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   yeah this is actually a perennial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:40   problem at a bunch of schools is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   retaining ambitious talents precisely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   because of that it's a good a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:48   narrow pyramid to climb in only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51   direction and and very often people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   don't want to climb in that direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   but they they want to continue advancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   and and this is this is definitely like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   a career problem that some teachers do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:03   run up against then I wanted to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:07   police officer that I cannot see thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   down 90 degree and this was the job that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:13   I hand that I was something that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16   sure i wanted to until maybe I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   17 it was something that I really wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:21   to do and it wasn't that I wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   a beat cop patrolling the streets of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:27   London but with you really club I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   to be a detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:30   that's that's what i wanted to be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:33   was something and it's still something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:34   I'm very interested in how I've I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:38   to be a detective I wanted to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:39   crimes who I cannot that's my eclectic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:44   list all that job now i am not physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:48   enough to be a police officer this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   what I realized in my life is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52   is a lot of it that I wouldn't be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:55   at so i didn't but did not pursue it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   I'm not tough enough basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   I'm not tough enough basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   I think you're doing a better job as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   professional podcaster then you would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   is a police officer just going to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   that out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06   thank you so much did you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:09   when you grow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   I mean I love when people ask this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:15   of thing at I feel like what is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:16   this question is asking is what did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   dumb kid version of you want to do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:21   and enough i feel like i have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22   little patience for most of this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   stuff like when I was a kid I had all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   sorts of dumb ideas about things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   wanted to do but it's because you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:29   kid like you don't know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30   the working world you know any even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:34   here like into the teenage years I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   the same thing it's like Oh Mikey want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:37   to be a police officer but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:38   haven't caught anything at all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:39   what being a police officer really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   entails wanted to drive cause really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   fast track right like this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:46   this is like your idea when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   younger about what the working world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   like and and so yeah there's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:54   stuff that like my parents tell me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   younger me was interested in doing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   he grew up but I feel like I really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:01   what that kid thought about anything he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   didn't know anything about anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:04   what do you want to do though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   come on just like it's like my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:10   like it at some point be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:11   paleontologist right is like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   like dinosaurs and I haven't bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   anything at all about what being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16   paleontologist is like oh you ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   dinosaur skeletons all day surely being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   a paleontologist it like now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   outside in the hot Sun moving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   toothbrush / a bone for hours if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:27   lucky right has I'll now it's a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   it's a terrible thing I i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   first serious career that I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:36   somewhat reasonable idea about which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39   the same reason that I didn't go into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   was that when i was in college i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:45   really aiming towards being a college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   physics professor mhm i thought like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:51   this is a thing that I really want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   and over the course of being at college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:57   was a process of coming to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:00   conclusion that like this is not a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:04   that I would really want to do there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   parts of it that I would really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   do like driving a fast car but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   actual miss of becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:13   a physics professor I realize like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14   across every front is like this is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:19   like this does not match up with me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:22   it's like realizing that I am neither [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:26   smart nor patient enough to do a PhD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:29   program it's like there's no way this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   going to happen I will lose my mind if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   have to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   realizing i did I ran at some point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38   ran some numbers on like how many PhD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:42   tenure-track positions are there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:45   United States every year versus how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:49   physics graduates are that is like whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   these are terrible numbers and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:55   realizing like a bunch of things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   myself as well like I just don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:58   the temperament to focus on a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   task for three to six years so all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:06   this is what like turned me away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:09   what I would say was the first seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12   considered maybe actually possible thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:15   that a younger version of me would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:19   wanted to do when he grew up almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:24   wants to know do you ever get a VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:27   headset now I got a playstation vr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:31   headset know you really liked it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   I know you do there are some good games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   there's not enough good games i'm hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   for more games in 2017 i have cast and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:41   towards oculus a couple of times just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   looked looked over in that direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:47   uh-huh to go the next level but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   not yet gone to it there there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52   stuff this year that i am finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:53   interesting like there are some smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   computers and some purpose built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   computers that I've seen like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   some CSS that I've just keeping my eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02   on there is also like word of oculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:05   trying to create their own all-in-one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:09   unit who same she's doing the same also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:13   microsoft later this year will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   showing off their next Xbox which in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18   they've said we'll have the our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19   capabilities microsoft had a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   partnership with oculus I'm wondering if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23   that's where we're going to go down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   will they be able to support pc games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   there this is a there is i expect by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:30   end of this year that i will have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   other equipment in my house because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   can never have enough never enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   immersion vr what did you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:39   ok like i have bought nothing because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   think i need a new house before I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   get a VR pets yeah this is the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47   this is a problem if you really want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:49   big the big equipment it is difficult i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:54   have used HTC vive I have not spoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:57   about this on the show who and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   that it's a great system but some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02   things that are good about things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   don't like about it and i like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   can move around but every now now bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:09   into something and then that ruins the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:10   experience so I trip over the cable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   that bruise the experience so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13   great system but I don't like it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:16   and also what everybody said that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   loved with the controllers but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:21   controllers and not as good as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   oculus touch controllers and we had used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:26   those a long time before they came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   like six or seven months so we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:31   starting i think at a better level and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   find the oculus touch controls to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   vastly superior to HTC's just in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   that they feel and the way you use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   so I still maintain that my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42   system i have used is the oculus yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:45   mean if this is the problem I I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   this feeling of like go big or go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48   with VR and that there are some vr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:52   options but I just I feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   oculus experience was just so good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:59   I either want to wait for other systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   to catch up to that or I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   replicate that and if I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:06   replicate it at the very least it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   me know that this this plant that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   living in London is that there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:11   there is no place for this and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:14   requires a rethinking of everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:18   like our room which is the kitchen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21   also the living room as like where would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:24   this go this would go nowhere so I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:28   keep piling up a list of reasons why my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:32   wife and I maybe should move and on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35   list of reasons i would have space for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   new vr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:39   mint is probably the least convincing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   item that is on there for her but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44   like it is it is very convincing for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:47   you need a mega office man wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   I'm going to disagree with you on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   actually because I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   should have your VR headset in your mega [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:54   office I think you need you need clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:57   distinct different contacts no for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00   working at games a part of my work gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:04   that is why you should not tell yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:08   that i have a video game podcast i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:11   yeah yeah yeah I know Mike but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:14   like that come at me that video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15   podcast exists to support this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:20   mega office serves two main roles in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:24   this home it is one where Mike can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:28   work and to where Mike can put all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:32   the stuff that shouldn't be in the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   of the house and this just becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:35   myspace i have a sofa so far is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:39   perfectly positioned in front of the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   mhm problem that works for you but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:44   the whole reason that I have an office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:47   that is outside of the house is I I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49   I can't work like that like I'm i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:52   the different environments to be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:55   clean and as clear as possible so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   you can keep the outside of the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   office but then also have the inside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:02   the house office which has the VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   equipment that's not gonna happen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:07   it's not gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:08   this is a life hack my friend notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:11   terrible idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   cic 128 wants to know if i skip a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16   too bad do you get anything for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   I don't know the houses for this oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20   really you don't know the answer you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   a as a YouTube creator you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   yeah so I think the short answer to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27   is know if you have one of those youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:31   ads where it's running down a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:32   timer that says you know you can skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   this in five four three two one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   if you immediately press that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:38   YouTube creator does not get a cut of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:41   the ad revenue but though it there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44   question of how quickly do you skip it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:47   don't know the exact boundaries i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49   they move them around sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   but there is a system of partial payouts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:55   depending on how much of a skippable add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   you have watched a high tube right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   expects a percentage probably right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   and whatever it is is like you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   take fifty percent of the ad revenue if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   you watch fifty percent of the video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:08   then at seventy-five percent they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:09   all there's there's something in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   boundary and I know that there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   lower boundary where there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   small amount that is taken but if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   you hit it on like exactly when it's up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:20   its count as a as an unwatched add in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:23   the system so you don't get any money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:25   ok that's good to know I've noticed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   thing recently which i think is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:29   I've seen a bunch of companies creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   like a three-second ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   oh yeah i haven't actually noticed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:34   you have noticed from a few like Eva [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:37   it's a company that is just their entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40   you too bad it's like five seconds long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:41   blue and there's nothing they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   carried there's no skipping it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   five-second at though it's within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   realms of what people expect I've also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:50   seen a couple of things where you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:53   see a company to a five-second dad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   then the 30-second ad and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   five-second dad is is there to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:00   entice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01   I say that so I thought finance stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:04   really interesting like people playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:05   with it and I've been i watch more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   those out honestly because they grabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   me and i watch the thing if you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12   company that makes ads there you go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   want my own money and say you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   five-second ads thomas wants to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19   what is gray spreadsheet program of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21   choice and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   oh and i use apples numbers actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:30   theory i should be using Excel long long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:35   time ago i actually had a job that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   essentially just using Excel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   professionally in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   excel is vastly more powerful it can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:45   a lot more but for the spreadsheets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:48   i use now i use numbers because of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:53   things the first is it does just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:56   nicer it takes a lot less effort to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:59   a numbers spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02   look nicer and the second thing which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:05   really love and I can't believe excel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   hasn't copied in some way is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:10   that numbers allows you to have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13   don't have to be working with a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   infinite grid in all directions you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:19   just drop down a little mini grid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:22   move it around so it is like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   working on a blank piece of paper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   you can have like multiple grids all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:28   over the place and like different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:31   yeah it's interesting yes and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   allowing you to rearrange things i find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:37   hugely helpful for the source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   spreadsheets that I want to create well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   have a bunch of I'm like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   programming or anything but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45   like all have a spreadsheet where I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:47   to just put in some inputs and then get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:48   the output is displayed in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   different way as like yeah I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   this with excel and and you sort of fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:55   it with hiding some of the cells but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   it's just much nicer and much easier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   faster to get a good-looking if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   just drop down a little table and say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   wanted to go exactly here and then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   I rearranged it later go out an output [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   over there it's better in this spot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:09   just really like I really like numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:12   for that and it's a feature that I use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:15   lot like a ton of my spreadsheets are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18   very large number of individual tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:21   that I'm putting data into and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:24   rearranging in a way that I could do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:26   with excel but it would be more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   pain in the butt to do with excel even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   if it is the more powerful tool and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32   definitely is the thing that I run into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   often ish enough that there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   I would like to do that would be trivial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   to do in Excel which number is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   simply can't but I'm willing to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   that that trade-off for the way that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   it looks and the way it's easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:46   rearrange able dylan wants to know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:49   the editorial has been updated for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51   ipad pro where we standing of we already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:55   moved away to applications like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   writer or bear and if so would we move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:00   back so i have posted we moved all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:03   writing of this kind to the ios app bear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:06   i think that is really nice and it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:09   very well for me for writing what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12   writing in which tends to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   copy far and i write them bear i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:18   going to be switching back to a tutorial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:19   for for my work there purely because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:24   am concerned at the rate of advancement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   of the application and I was on the beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   but it took very very very long time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:32   that to come out of beta for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:33   version so i am i'm gonna stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:37   that for the time being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:39   yeah editorial was my primary app for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:41   very long time for doing the writing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:44   for the video scripts and for some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:49   things that i right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:50   i'm now using Ulysses as the primary app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:54   which what we've talked about very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:55   at all not but Ulysses has some features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:58   that i really really like is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:01   those apps that it's like I played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   around with it for a little bit and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:04   it takes awhile to like change your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:07   a little bit to take full advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   the way that this can work and I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:11   say like the the rules for rulers videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:15   that i did those relied very heavily on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:19   some of the features that Ulysses has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:22   where if you're working with it the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   it wants you to work you can rearrange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:27   sections quite easily you can see little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:30   like the outline of what it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   you're working on the side and move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:34   sections up and down and I was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:35   that constantly on the on those videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:38   and that is a kind of feature that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:41   have a very hard time now imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   using any kind of writing app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:46   doesn't have some ability to do this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   to replicate information on the side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   a quick ability to rearrange the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   sections so that is become just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:56   absolute vital feature and editorial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:59   doesn't have that and there's also some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:04   stuff with Ulysses because it's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:05   in dropbox there's some fancy stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:09   don't really need to get into right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:10   but in the way that my assistant can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:13   also have access to a subset of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:16   things that i'm working on on Ulysses on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   her end through dropbox and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:19   like sinks in a really nice way but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22   doesn't have to have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:23   everything that I'm working on it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   there's a nice things that I can do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:27   app so that's why it has taken the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   primary place as the fact that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   working in and for everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:35   i'm also using bear as a kind of scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:38   pad or list maker or just for various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:42   miscellaneous things I have to say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   really impressed with that app I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:45   like some of the color schemes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   way they arrange things so that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:48   are the two apps that are my primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:51   writing two apps at this point Adrienne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   would like to know how your betrayal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:57   the macbook adorable has been going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59   didn't betray anything and was the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:03   bar really worth this betrayal but no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:06   betrayed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:07   it went up a little puff of smoke mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:12   I feel like this is more question if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   betrayed you is what's really coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   what everything working out in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   there was a betrayal and has it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:22   few is it been worth it for you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   use that computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:25   yeah i do use that computer it is useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:29   for exactly the purpose that I intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   it which is for occasional mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   podcast recording and or editing and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:37   was the macbook now what you're asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:40   me if I'm using it for these things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:41   yes I use it for that i do have to say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:44   really i really really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:48   second-generation butterflying keys i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:51   was always a defender of the adorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:52   keyboard i think people didn't use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:55   long enough to get used to it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:56   really liked it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:58   second-generation keyboard is way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:00   and I however i really hope that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   at some point updates their magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   keyboard to use the same switches okay i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   think they're fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:07   don't say that i left why why because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:10   test people have lots of opinions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:15   the keyboards and I don't think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:19   would would would like to hana no I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   NOT interested in what they would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:23   these two sides of Apple here which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:26   probably warring with each other which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:27   is the efficiencies of scale versus boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:30   we sure don't want to retool any of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   equipment i think that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:33   battle that would be taking place over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   what is the next generation of the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:36   keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:37   but but i would love them too i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:40   love them to go with the efficiencies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41   scale argument on that I have that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:45   really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:46   as for the touch bar the lack of escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:54   button is not really any problem i find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   i hit that corner really easily every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   time I want to hit the escape button I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   it doesn't bother me that there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:01   physical button there i was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   that to be a problem but it isn't as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:08   the actual touch bar i feel like i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:13   need to be convinced by some software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:16   implementation that this is a useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:19   feature it's funny because I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   strikes me as like the reverse of a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:24   feature but whenever I pay attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26   it it really feels like this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28   a feature for newbies where it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:31   trying to show to you and reveal to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:35   aspects of the program that you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   not be aware of and I feel like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:41   almost anything that the touch bar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:42   showing me there's a keyboard command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   that I already know that i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:45   use or the additional information that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:48   it shows is not really helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   it's just kind of flashy and show off e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   so I actually think that the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:55   is a great feature for someone new to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:59   the mac like it's not directed at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:02   it would be but I'm i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:07   think the way they sold it as like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:09   this is an amazing pro feature like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:10   haven't seen that materialized on on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:13   own so that's that's been my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:16   with the touch bar so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:19   silence sense of betrayal yep carrie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:22   wants to know what is your opinion on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:24   the Amazon echo I know you love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:27   Amazon echo uh-huh i have seen in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:30   demonstrations of the Amazon echo which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32   are very impressive about how it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:35   hear you and the commands that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:37   has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:38   do I have some some resistance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:41   setting up a thing that is in another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:45   ecosystem and if I feel less convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:49   by the utility of it for me personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:51   like I just I don't like talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:55   devices if I can a guy like when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:58   controlling the lights in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   sure I can talk to Siri to do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:03   I'm much I much prefer pressing a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:06   and just doing it that way so I a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:09   the Amazon echo stuff is a gag i can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:12   that that would be useful but i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:15   feel like I have some kind of mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   resistance to talking as a form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:20   computer interface it's it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:24   not my go-to uh how do you turn your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   lights on enough because you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   hear lights right yeah he lights so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   was your interface for interactivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   lights so the the hue lights are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:35   connected into the Apple home system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:38   yep so that means on on any of the ipads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:41   on my phone I can use the control panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:44   to toggle the presets that i have so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   thought you know i haven't had a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   bunch but there's like six buttons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:49   the various ways that I want most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51   lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52   ok or the thing that happens really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   often as i have it depending on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:57   watch face i'm using either have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:58   home button on my watch face or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:01   always in the dock of my watch and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   that's the other way that I'll adjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:04   the lights is by doing that and they I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:08   know that under this circumstance it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:11   would often be faster and easier to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:14   able to just speak out loud to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:15   elected to ask it to change the lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:17   instead but it still doesn't get over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   this this like mental resistance that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:22   feel to talking out loud to a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:25   guy i will always prefer the silent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:28   interface if it's an option and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30   like voice commands for me RA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32   a mental last resort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:36   ok that's interesting because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:39   definitely the reverse for my hue lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:42   he and and this the same for dinner as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:46   well we just walk around the house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:47   ask for the lights to be time on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   rooms were going into I mean to be fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   my wife would probably greatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   appreciate if I could set up a lot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   because she is obviously referring voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   interface and she tries to talk to Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4917">TS</a>]

01:22:01   to change the lights which I can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:04   describe as a perpetual exercise in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:07   frustration right see this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:08   with the echo it is a surprise if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:13   doesn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:14   yeah and with Siri i have found it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:18   the inverse yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:20   Cirie is terrible at this kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:23   maybe you should just get one but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:25   no use for it and that's how i would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:27   the person setting it up really not hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   to set up i'm really trying mostly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:31   convince her to use the silent interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:33   instead just press the button it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:36   when you press the button every time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38   i think this is also just a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   problem with with Siri if just just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:43   other day I heard this thing which would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:45   purchase it was so frustrating to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:47   to but my wife was in the shower and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:51   was trying to ask Siri to record a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:54   reminder for later and the site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:58   serie could he likes it could be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01   like hey Siri and then the phone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:04   wake up and she would try to talk to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06   and it would and I must have her try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:09   do this thing 10 times as like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:10   couldn't bear to hear it anymore like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12   just had to go and like I let me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:14   type it in for you like I'm so sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:15   that you've had this experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17   Siri trying to listen to you lates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:19   I understand you're in this like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:20   in the shower is it's trying to hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:22   over water is not an optimal situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   but it was a thing that i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:27   like I'm pretty sure Amazon echo would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   get this no problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30   it depends it depends like so we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:33   our echo in our kitchen and if we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:36   the extract to fan going for blast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:40   it can take a couple of tries to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:43   to hear you who but once it's heard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:47   wake word it does a pretty good job but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:50   sometimes you have to really give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   shout to get it to wake up who food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:55   there is that there is a problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:56   all of these machines have white noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   but i will say that that the echo is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:02   best that i found primarily because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:05   is a canister full of microphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:08   yeah right so that's why it does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   better job but it it can still struggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12   but i would say that probably would do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   better job in that scenario than Syria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   would have honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:17   let's just say there was definitely some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   shouting it's eerie yeah yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:22   worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:23   there is some shouting to be hat but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:26   know i will say that i have been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28   office and i have heard cause words set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:30   towards the echo in the kitchen making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:32   me it happens and I do it do it happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBmdfnaQ/5072">TS</a>]