The Incomparable

170: Let Zygons Be Zygons

 

  the incomparable flash test number 107 e [TS]

  November 23rd 2030 [TS]

  we're back for a special flash flash [TS]

  cast edition of being comfortable [TS]

  recorded live Saturday November 23rd [TS]

  2013 the 50th anniversary of the first [TS]

  broadcast doctor who and not too long [TS]

  ago as we record this we watched as [TS]

  everybody around the world watched the [TS]

  50th anniversary episode of doctor who [TS]

  was on the same time all around the [TS]

  world people could get up in the middle [TS]

  of the night in Asia and watch it and [TS]

  and for for those of us on the west [TS]

  coast it was on just a little before [TS]

  noon and so I am your host is always [TS]

  Jason Snelling joining me are a handful [TS]

  of other people who are regular panelist [TS]

  who have seen this episode want to talk [TS]

  about it really quickly [TS]

  david lawrence here hello David hello [TS]

  megan is this thing on wait a second [TS]

  yeah which-which thing isn't working [TS]

  who's who's who sonic screwdriver is [TS]

  that number 11 [TS]

  I Scott McNulty has interrupted his [TS]

  dinner to join us [TS]

  thank you Scott for being here and [TS]

  making that supreme sacrifice of half of [TS]

  your dinner being cold [TS]

  I don't know this is the real Jason [TS]

  because I don't think the real Jason [TS]

  would really care about my dinner [TS]

  it's true i have been i may have been [TS]

  replaced by a Saigon but let's let's [TS]

  let's let bygones be bygones Scott [TS]

  oh and we also have Dan Morgan hi Dan [TS]

  hello Jason I'm glad that all five of us [TS]

  could be imprisoned in this small cell [TS]

  together it's good it's good that we [TS]

  could we could be in this tiny space [TS]

  together answer andy caldwell is the [TS]

  unnamed fifth member that Dan was [TS]

  referring to there because he's very [TS]

  clever and can count I see a movie [TS]

  hello did you know the door was open I [TS]

  did not think to try it [TS]

  that's a reference to a show i just saw [TS]

  nice very nice failed i'm gonna break in [TS]

  here by the way and point out and what [TS]

  will put this at the front of the show [TS]

  to we're talking about this episode we [TS]

  saw it we're talking about it if you [TS]

  don't want to be spoiled a don't listen [TS]

  to this episode thank you [TS]

  this has been a public sorry I yea sorry [TS]

  should I read on the horn yeah like [TS]

  mission start with the spoiler [TS]

  the spoiler TARDIS yes [TS]

  the day of the doctor is what we saw [TS]

  lots of stuff I I even yeah lots of [TS]

  stuff [TS]

  what wow let's just go around and I love [TS]

  some first impressions of how people [TS]

  what people thought about this and liked [TS]

  about this episode because you know I'm [TS]

  still processing it i think Dan serenity [TS]

  just literally just alright so let's [TS]

  start with David Lauren will give them a [TS]

  little extra processing time David some [TS]

  first initial thoughts about the the [TS]

  doctor who 50th special um I had the [TS]

  biggest damn smile on my face through [TS]

  most of it and at the end I I was pretty [TS]

  much a giggling wreck [TS]

  yeah i loved it i mean i've always said [TS]

  that I prefer Moffat to Davies is as in [TS]

  terms of the reboot and you know and [TS]

  even when I have issues with Moffitt and [TS]

  I've had issues with Moffat that episode [TS]

  made up for all of its just so that's [TS]

  why I like him and he went back and [TS]

  fixed the the worst thing I thought [TS]

  babies ever did which was destroying [TS]

  Gallifrey it's like why would you do [TS]

  that and then you know you have these [TS]

  these people who can travel through time [TS]

  and fix things so i wouldn't go and fix [TS]

  it and he's managed to save everything [TS]

  else in the universe [TS]

  why didn't he save that and boom saved [TS]

  done [TS]

  it's like oh of course I he I know why [TS]

  right Russell Davis took the Time Lords [TS]

  off the boards because they were boring [TS]

  and super powerful and he wanted to give [TS]

  the doctor a an interesting angle to his [TS]

  story that he was this last survivor but [TS]

  I see when you said the worst thing [TS]

  Russell Davis ever did I thought you [TS]

  meant the episode the end of time [TS]

  uh-huh nobody the other one is but but [TS]

  is angel eyes see it again but the same [TS]

  the same thing applies which is that [TS]

  this episode essentially has a whole big [TS]

  chunk that takes place kind of in the [TS]

  middle of the end of time because it's [TS]

  actually alluded to they say though the [TS]

  great High Council is meeting we know [TS]

  they're doing very bad things because we [TS]

  saw that in the end of time and so I [TS]

  thought that was interesting that this [TS]

  is this is steven moffat taking having [TS]

  taken the reins three years ago from [TS]

  russell davis and or i guess going on [TS]

  for years ago maybe uh and uh and [TS]

  rewriting the most significant thing [TS]

  that Russell Davis did in terms of [TS]

  doctor who sort of current [TS]

  ecology by undoing this destruction of [TS]

  Gallifrey which is a I thought that was [TS]

  I thought it was interesting i don't [TS]

  know what it what it means for the for [TS]

  the future of the show and whether this [TS]

  just sort of lays out there for a while [TS]

  or what but I thought I thought it was [TS]

  interesting that that it's rewriting [TS]

  recent Doctor Who history but yeah and I [TS]

  think maybe a good way [TS]

  yeah you know I because i love the idea [TS]

  now that he's looking for home again but [TS]

  he doesn't have to go there right away [TS]

  you know it's just there you know it [TS]

  doesn't need to change anything he's [TS]

  still by himself he's still doing his [TS]

  thing and I just I love again you know [TS]

  how it was in and out of time in and out [TS]

  of events and how one thing led to you [TS]

  know here's the feds and here is jumping [TS]

  through and here's the Queen and here's [TS]

  this here's that and it all you know and [TS]

  I saw some people on Twitter early [TS]

  ongoing how the pacing is awful like let [TS]

  it play for more than 20 minutes before [TS]

  you start complaining about the pacing I [TS]

  mean real i thought the pace it was [TS]

  brilliant because yeah I thought that it [TS]

  was confident enough to know that it had [TS]

  90 minutes essentially or 75 minutes and [TS]

  I was really grateful that we were [TS]

  getting that early story and a couple [TS]

  large blocks rather than a deal I quick [TS]

  cut back and forth back and forth and [TS]

  back and forth like it was it knew it [TS]

  had the time to tell the story and so it [TS]

  wasn't it was going to take the time [TS]

  yeah I actually I found it really [TS]

  impressive because I felt the entire [TS]

  this entire season has felt a bit rushed [TS]

  to me in terms of the episodes pacing [TS]

  was not always my favorite and I felt [TS]

  like we weren't spending enough time [TS]

  developing characters are missing out [TS]

  scenes etc and in contrast I actually [TS]

  think the pacing of this special is [TS]

  fantastic enters its fast-paced but they [TS]

  take exactly the amount of time they [TS]

  need to set up the scene and focus on [TS]

  the things that are important and crack [TS]

  a few jokes too [TS]

  while still advancing the story [TS]

  absolutely and and just the chemistry i [TS]

  mean it's it's no big shock attendant [TS]

  and Smith would be fantastic together [TS]

  but oh my god they're so much fun they [TS]

  really were when John her obviously [TS]

  whose them you are demented he didn't [TS]

  he's like he's like he's a master [TS]

  ready will note that if you've seen [TS]

  anything else he's done right mean yeah [TS]

  you know the guys event so it but he did [TS]

  a great job with that [TS]

  why do people speak like children why [TS]

  the one part is when you can build two [TS]

  for twice the price [TS]

  that's what I say so i had to contact [TS]

  references anybody seen that movie John [TS]

  Hurt's in and are absolutely yeah might [TS]

  explain some of the costs off things [TS]

  like you know [TS]

  brave words dick van dyke and just keep [TS]

  going and I was like did I really hear [TS]

  that [TS]

  yes yes I did yeah i mean the pacing at [TS]

  the beginning that was I'm glad I'm glad [TS]

  that came up because i like that it was [TS]

  not one of those cut and instead it was [TS]

  very much like okay we're gonna follow [TS]

  matt smith and and it's the doctor and [TS]

  Clara and they've got this sort of [TS]

  beginning adventure and then we know [TS]

  that the all the doctors are gonna meet [TS]

  and so we get John Hurt story and we see [TS]

  that kind of intersection point and we [TS]

  get sort of david tennant story and we [TS]

  see that intersection point and then [TS]

  puts them together i liked i like that [TS]

  and throughout the story that that it [TS]

  was it didn't feel slow pace to me it [TS]

  felt confident and it ratcheted things [TS]

  up as it went and I didn't feel like it [TS]

  was just trying to shovel for as much as [TS]

  in this episode I didn't feel like it [TS]

  was you know sweaty and painting and [TS]

  shoveling crazy references at me every [TS]

  minute which would have been I think [TS]

  understandable if that had been what it [TS]

  was and you know it would have been kind [TS]

  of like okay like a Halloween candy [TS]

  overlap or something right it didn't [TS]

  feel like I'm surprised actually that it [TS]

  felt like it had actually room to [TS]

  breathe which it didn't have to it could [TS]

  have been completely insanely packed [TS]

  yeah I was worried a little bit when [TS]

  Ingrid all girl came on-screen you're [TS]

  like oh she's wearing the Fourth Doctor [TS]

  scarf is the entire episode basically [TS]

  going to be tchotchkes and memorabilia [TS]

  of previous doctors but it actually [TS]

  turned out to be quite subtle and [TS]

  understated which I appreciated [TS]

  yeah absolutely Scott what are your [TS]

  thoughts [TS]

  I liked it thumbs up i enjoyed a Billie [TS]

  Piper's role as the conscience the [TS]

  interface to the moment I thought that [TS]

  was a good choice now overall it was fun [TS]

  I like pacing I liked the ending I mean [TS]

  I'm not like a super huge long time [TS]

  doctor who [TS]

  and so the shocking surprise ending [TS]

  cameo which I knew about didn't really [TS]

  impact me as much as I'm sure did other [TS]

  people but I don't like I found that was [TS]

  delightful [TS]

  yeah it was called lending and it was [TS]

  wrapped in enough explanation that you [TS]

  could make up your own explanation about [TS]

  it but it really wasn't like the point [TS]

  and which it was just kind of nice and [TS]

  and people can dice and will and have [TS]

  and are doing so right now on the [TS]

  internet that's exactly what it means [TS]

  but um but in the end it we got it we [TS]

  got a scene where Tom Baker who may or [TS]

  may not be the future version trying on [TS]

  old faces of the doctor but he's retired [TS]

  and he's running this is the curator of [TS]

  this bizarre museum gallery place to [TS]

  having a conversation with matt smith [TS]

  how great is that there's a conversation [TS]

  between matt smith and tom baker in the [TS]

  show that's cool that's and Don Baker [TS]

  for all you know the fact is he is [TS]

  essentially the definitive kid actor who [TS]

  played this character and we it's boring [TS]

  to pick him i was saying this in our [TS]

  doctor who episode 2 it'sit's was born [TS]

  to pick him but everybody when you think [TS]

  of Doctor Who I mean maybe people start [TS]

  to think of David Tennant that Smith but [TS]

  it's that guy in the scarf and a hat and [TS]

  I mean that's so to have him on what who [TS]

  is not on the 20th anniversary episode [TS]

  by the way is that was cool [TS]

  yeah I was gonna say in contrast to [TS]

  David's point as someone who really has [TS]

  only been in you know the Doctor Who [TS]

  universe since the reboot like I kind of [TS]

  always knew the doctor as that you know [TS]

  he's the last of the Time Lords identity [TS]

  you know that was kind of the overriding [TS]

  image i always had of him so it wasn't [TS]

  for me necessarily the judge whether [TS]

  that was for good or for ill it was just [TS]

  it simply was and so it was interesting [TS]

  to take a different perspective on that [TS]

  and you know it's nice that you have a [TS]

  show that is run long enough that you [TS]

  can take the time if you'll excuse the [TS]

  expression to develop those kinds of [TS]

  stories I mean you know if you're doing [TS]

  this in an American network television [TS]

  show like at the end of the first season [TS]

  you would have been like oh I'm afraid [TS]

  not destroyed but look you know that was [TS]

  I was eight years ago you know it's [TS]

  we've had the show this has been running [TS]

  for the [TS]

  the current incarnation has been running [TS]

  for eight years now and that's a long [TS]

  time to tease out that plot thread but [TS]

  I'm glad because it feels like it has [TS]

  significance then right after has weight [TS]

  if you wait for their eight years as [TS]

  opposed to 13 episodes and and they [TS]

  decided to change it and so you know it [TS]

  feels like a big ground shift and it [TS]

  also feels like a big setting the stage [TS]

  moment given what we know is going to [TS]

  happen in the Christmas episode you know [TS]

  this is a transition point i think its [TS]

  cool the idea that especially the idea [TS]

  that I mean you is there an argument [TS]

  that this this had always happened right [TS]

  yeah we get oh right so like you based [TS]

  on the nature of time travel [TS]

  you know this was true in very at the [TS]

  beginning of the show we just didn't [TS]

  know it [TS]

  right so that's all the fun continuity [TS]

  stuff that you can tease out having to [TS]

  do with time travel so I'd like to I [TS]

  thought that was cool to bring that sort [TS]

  of it was a different kind of episode [TS]

  two me and I like the fact that it [TS]

  played into a lot of the mythological [TS]

  stuff and we have this incarnation the [TS]

  war doctor who is a very different type [TS]

  of doctor but in the end you know more [TS]

  similar than different and it was nice [TS]

  to have the idea of the doctors you know [TS]

  saving himself too right yes I thought I [TS]

  thought that was a nice touch [TS]

  you mentioned the ground shift and I [TS]

  it's coming into this steven moffat said [TS]

  he was trying to set this was about not [TS]

  celebrating the last 50 but setting up [TS]

  the next 50 and I thought well that's [TS]

  nice bit of hype but come on but I I [TS]

  think you're right in that it feels like [TS]

  some of the assumptions and grounding [TS]

  and premise of the show not of all time [TS]

  but of since 2005 has shifted with this [TS]

  episode that it's not about the time war [TS]

  it's not about what happened Gallifrey [TS]

  is out there somewhere maybe you could [TS]

  go get it but it's like you know it's [TS]

  almost like the dot we know the doctor [TS]

  is moving on with his life he is [TS]

  resolved this issue he had about the [TS]

  time war and perhaps he did it through [TS]

  time traveler perhaps it was always that [TS]

  way right that's always that time travel [TS]

  question by the way how great is it that [TS]

  John Hurt just keeps rolling his eyes at [TS]

  all the catchphrases that the table [TS]

  tiny why me and alan zi and he's like oh [TS]

  my god why must you talk like what what [TS]

  a great week [TS]

  you know doesn't in retrospect make the [TS]

  casting of Peter Capaldi who briefly [TS]

  appears very very as doesn't have that [TS]

  much more sense now but he's talking [TS]

  about the maybe it's time to grow up [TS]

  yes like we've had you know three fairly [TS]

  young incarnations of the doctor maybe [TS]

  it's time that you know we have a doctor [TS]

  who is a little more on the adult side [TS]

  and that's that to me is an interesting [TS]

  another sort of like wob setup [TS]

  well you it's it's almost set up in this [TS]

  episode because the future travels of [TS]

  the doctor could be i'm looking for the [TS]

  children right and in order to look for [TS]

  the children you have to be a grown-up [TS]

  in order to find the children of [TS]

  Gallifrey and the the future of [TS]

  Gallifrey very nice but you know I have [TS]

  to say when they when they first [TS]

  announced him as being the next doctor [TS]

  and I thought he's got to show up in [TS]

  this episode somewhere even attics stars [TS]

  i was so happy to see him but even even [TS]

  having predicted that I let out an [TS]

  audible yelp when he just showed up and [TS]

  and my youngest son looked up with what [TS]

  happens nothing nothing just get going [TS]

  just watchin watchin show but it sits in [TS]

  there and I I like David I I find [TS]

  there's no way Steven Moffat is going to [TS]

  have already cast the next doctor and [TS]

  there's no way he can resist being [TS]

  having to be the first time where a [TS]

  future doctor appears earlier in the [TS]

  show there's no way he could resist and [TS]

  so obviously they shot something [TS]

  probably around the same time shot Matt [TS]

  Smith's regeneration and dropped it in [TS]

  there and said you'll be seeing him soon [TS]

  and that was pretty that was pretty cool [TS]

  and it was it was quick right it wasn't [TS]

  like a whole thing I was almost [TS]

  expecting that at the end instead of it [TS]

  being Tom Baker coming out at the end [TS]

  would be here Capaldi and with that with [TS]

  the the gallery being revealed as having [TS]

  those into the gallery had those [TS]

  hexagons on the wall and I kept figuring [TS]

  we were just going to go out that back [TS]

  door the gallery and it was going to be [TS]

  the TARDIS and that would be the end [TS]

  right but we got it a little differently [TS]

  than that but still pretty cool [TS]

  be it may be inside somewhere it may be [TS]

  a latter-day Tom Baker's a partisan [TS]

  could be i wanted to somebody mentioned [TS]

  Billie Piper I think I think Scott did [TS]

  and and as they as that sort of avatar [TS]

  of the moment it and I'll i really like [TS]

  the idea of the moment which was again [TS]

  dropped in the end of time [TS]

  manhattan and then picked up here which [TS]

  is that I really love that it is the [TS]

  most horrible weapon in the universe but [TS]

  it's sentient and it needs to be [TS]

  convinced to be used I think that's such [TS]

  an amazing idea and then to have it be [TS]

  in the form of of a Billy Piper which [TS]

  gets her into this episode without it [TS]

  being explaining that it's rose which I [TS]

  thought was cool the great line about I [TS]

  got it from your past or future i keep [TS]

  getting us mixed up [TS]

  it's also good and she did it I thought [TS]

  she did a great job in that part which [TS]

  is a little bit of rows and also a [TS]

  little bit of not this sort of [TS]

  mysterious powerful force trying to [TS]

  guide the doctor in the right direction [TS]

  i thought that was cool [TS]

  well you've got somebody who's playing [TS]

  the alex kingston roll who's not wrote [TS]

  or not river for once and I think [TS]

  everybody's gotten a little like I love [TS]

  Alex Kingston and i love the river song [TS]

  storylines but I think everybody had got [TS]

  maybe a little burnt out on river song [TS]

  so it allows Steven Moffat to have that [TS]

  kind of playful i have i have cards that [TS]

  you haven't seen that are played yet [TS]

  character on the show and allow them to [TS]

  kind of leave the doctor by the nose [TS]

  without necessarily putting alex [TS]

  kingston the role again [TS]

  well then how it was very odd to me to [TS]

  realize well we're never going to have a [TS]

  scene with billie piper and david [TS]

  tennant where they talk to each other [TS]

  you know it's kind of strange wonderful [TS]

  one shot where he's like did you say [TS]

  badwater have Billie Piper just sort of [TS]

  smiling behind him [TS]

  well actually that and that's [TS]

  immediately preceded by John Hurt saying [TS]

  that were Wulfgar like a kiss you and [TS]

  she says yeah that's gonna happen that [TS]

  was all that was really good [TS]

  somebody in the chat room is asking [TS]

  talking about it's a shame that a [TS]

  christopher eccleston couldn't be in it [TS]

  and it's true they had they did actually [TS]

  when John Hurt regenerates at the very [TS]

  end of the episode first he says these [TS]

  bodies weren't a little thin which is [TS]

  what William Hartnell says before he [TS]

  regenerates and they did if you look [TS]

  closely it's Christopher Eccleston's [TS]

  eyes who appear just before they cut [TS]

  away so they they used enough computer [TS]

  graphics to imply christopher eccleston [TS]

  without without you know going further [TS]

  and trying to do even more compositing [TS]

  to make it you know more clear we do get [TS]

  a shot of him in [TS]

  from archive footage we shot a hole in [TS]

  the whole government and i like that his [TS]

  there's a there's a certain element of [TS]

  his aesthetic in the war doctors outfit [TS]

  with the leather jacket and everything [TS]

  so I mean there's a little bit of [TS]

  continuity there which i think is nice i [TS]

  also appreciate that at the very end he [TS]

  makes the comment of oh I'm not going to [TS]

  remember this i'm going to you know walk [TS]

  out of here still believing that I [TS]

  potentially destroy Gallifrey I'm like [TS]

  good job Steven Moffat way to cover your [TS]

  bases and now but you know why don't [TS]

  they remember it yeah exactly exactly [TS]

  and and matt smith says oh i remember [TS]

  this [TS]

  I'll kind of right and and it's that [TS]

  moment where it's all sort of falling [TS]

  for him and it explains away why they [TS]

  would not you know know everything you [TS]

  know David Tennant would know it twice [TS]

  and matt smith would know it three times [TS]

  it the rumor is that Steven Moffat wrote [TS]

  the John Hurt part for christopher [TS]

  eccleston and then when he couldn't get [TS]

  him back he conceived this whole mystery [TS]

  doctor and and watching this episode I [TS]

  thought oh yeah that this would have [TS]

  worked perfectly [TS]

  as Christopher Eccleston's in that part [TS]

  but it worked fine without and you know [TS]

  John Hurt is not a bad guy to catch this [TS]

  renounce Messalina know he did a great [TS]

  job and it actually it does play on that [TS]

  because they are so young tenant and and [TS]

  Smith a it works in that you don't you [TS]

  don't have that moment like well where's [TS]

  the ninth doctor because it's like well [TS]

  no the whole idea here is that they [TS]

  these two guys have lived and I really [TS]

  like that they look young so there's [TS]

  that contrast and they both talked about [TS]

  how many hundreds of years they both [TS]

  lived quite a few hundred for David [TS]

  Tennant and another three or 400 for [TS]

  Matt Smith to think about what happened [TS]

  when they were John Hurt which it you [TS]

  know it'sit's not implied it stated and [TS]

  it's and it's part of why the decisions [TS]

  that they make are what they are which I [TS]

  thought was really nice that that's a [TS]

  doctor who think that a lot of times you [TS]

  look you know ask me later I'll explain [TS]

  it later right and instead they [TS]

  addressed it and it was part of the [TS]

  story where you there's a line you can [TS]

  draw now from like you know the point [TS]

  where you have the the John her doctor [TS]

  all the way through all what we've seen [TS]

  that now makes you know has a nice arc [TS]

  of continuity into why even you look at [TS]

  things like you know the [TS]

  it was a doctor dances like that the [TS]

  episode [TS]

  yeah we're like everybody lives right [TS]

  like all of that you know there's this [TS]

  huge lovely line of continuity about why [TS]

  the doctor makes the choices he does and [TS]

  how this is shaped him and I think [TS]

  that's wonderful and it also allows the [TS]

  whole playing with the age thing because [TS]

  I know the the Matt Smith dr. the [TS]

  eleventh Doctor's age I think he's [TS]

  always been interesting which they kind [TS]

  of alluded to and the point where the [TS]

  prisoners over is like I mean maybe I'm [TS]

  lying about my age and you know you've [TS]

  got an old when you can't remember how [TS]

  old you are [TS]

  because they jump back and forth with [TS]

  him because there's that whole thing [TS]

  with the river and going well in the day [TS]

  of the moon and all back [TS]

  crud words like actually the older [TS]

  version of the doctor but not so I don't [TS]

  know it's it's nice that they do a lot [TS]

  of hand waving a couple points but [TS]

  that's alright because that's kind of [TS]

  the story that they're telling we got to [TS]

  see there is a character wearing a Tom [TS]

  Baker scarf that sort of strange i'm [TS]

  starting to wonder now if the curator [TS]

  didn't suggest that she worry I've got a [TS]

  longer if you can wear [TS]

  I mean why not interesting that happened [TS]

  to be Tom Baker scarf and Tom Baker [TS]

  appears the end of the aisle at this [TS]

  little in 12 course but it's a yes it's [TS]

  very iconic Doctor Who memorabilia but [TS]

  at the same time like you get the sense [TS]

  i actually I'm sure that character is [TS]

  just a one-off but I almost hope that [TS]

  she appears again because she they [TS]

  Moffat crafted her a little bit more [TS]

  interesting leave that he does some of [TS]

  his other one offs and if I mean is she [TS]

  supposed to be a cure a part of the [TS]

  museum staff apartment you know [TS]

  yeah so it's entirely I mean it's [TS]

  entirely possible that she might have [TS]

  any some kind of interaction with the [TS]

  curator it can even be that that's where [TS]

  the Fourth Doctor got the idea to wear [TS]

  that scarf [TS]

  oh yeah we just we go around in circles [TS]

  like this all day [TS]

  yeah well I liked it there was some [TS]

  through you know again I'm you know I've [TS]

  been watching as long as some of you [TS]

  have but yeah there were some nice tips [TS]

  they had two things from the earlier [TS]

  eras and Captain jacket to mention [TS]

  riversong shoes are in the black r-ky [TS]

  yeah there's lots of like little little [TS]

  references to things from from earlier [TS]

  incarnations so it was you know I always [TS]

  enjoyed little tips that they had to the [TS]

  continuity especially in an issue like [TS]

  this which has so much continuity beyond [TS]

  the under note [TS]

  just a reference to the end of time in [TS]

  here by the way is Queen Elizabeth the [TS]

  first which right which in the end of [TS]

  time as the doctor is doing his sort of [TS]

  final travels before he knows he's going [TS]

  to go and meet his fate he mentions [TS]

  basically that he married Queen [TS]

  Elizabeth the first [TS]

  so that's that's resolved here and and [TS]

  that means it's it's russell davis fault [TS]

  that the doctor started getting married [TS]

  and not Steven Moffat switch is also [TS]

  really funny and and then of course [TS]

  she's referenced also in the end of the [TS]

  Shakespeare episode where I'm she tries [TS]

  to to have the guards kill the doctor [TS]

  and now we realize that's because he [TS]

  married her and then disappeared and [TS]

  never came back so that was nice and [TS]

  then the other big reference in here is [TS]

  the Zygons who were in an episode from [TS]

  1976 with tom baker and have never been [TS]

  seen since he's a big funny sucker [TS]

  covered shape-shifting alien guys and [TS]

  and therefore and they were seen an [TS]

  episode set in Scotland and I think [TS]

  Steven Moffat and david tennant had [TS]

  sworn that one day they would do being [TS]

  Scotsman themselves they would get the [TS]

  Zygons in an episode and they did it in [TS]

  the 50th I appreciate the fact that [TS]

  there were men in rubber suits [TS]

  absolutely is Absolut so this guy's [TS]

  classic Doctor Who yes [TS]

  oh wow that was really funny my my uh my [TS]

  kids and I were watching this together [TS]

  and and and i said just about like two [TS]

  seconds forever and always force it was [TS]

  the horse he's like yeah it was the [TS]

  horse [TS]

  this is I gone there now that was really [TS]

  funny it was good lot of funny stuff but [TS]

  yeah we expect that from steve from off [TS]

  and I guess what L said and generally [TS]

  positive thoughts anything else that you [TS]

  wanted to talk about in particular i [TS]

  mean i-i thought it was really fantastic [TS]

  i thought they used Jenna Coleman well [TS]

  in the entirely throughout this episode [TS]

  in episode that really wasn't about [TS]

  companions they found a way to weave her [TS]

  into the story and such a way that did [TS]

  not make it feel like she was just kind [TS]

  of hanging out at the end and be like [TS]

  hey guys so there's button that you [TS]

  could press together or maybe not like [TS]

  you already have sort of rose playing [TS]

  this bad wolf character I I appreciate [TS]

  that when they do have her in the scenes [TS]

  she's actually making some kind [TS]

  effect and basically standing in for [TS]

  Humanity in some ways while while Billy [TS]

  Piper's characters sort of the the [TS]

  compass on one end of the spectrum she's [TS]

  kind of like the compass for well [TS]

  remember what you've become remember all [TS]

  the other things that you can do don't [TS]

  forget Clarence job is to say the doctor [TS]

  and as we saw in the the name of the [TS]

  doctor the last episode of the last [TS]

  season she didn't she didn't see John [TS]

  Hurt's doctor she never got a chance to [TS]

  save him and is that not what she does [TS]

  by saying mmm maybe you don't need to [TS]

  destroy Gallifrey I mean in some ways [TS]

  she saved her job is to say the doctor [TS]

  she saved the doctor by having him not [TS]

  destroy his planet in the end which is [TS]

  kinda cool and she was yeah she was [TS]

  never in that traditional companion mode [TS]

  she was very much [TS]

  I don't know it will be interesting to [TS]

  see how they portray her going forward [TS]

  because she's had that moment we talked [TS]

  about where she saved him already [TS]

  you could say her story is done or you [TS]

  could look at it and say look she's now [TS]

  an expert she's seen everything there is [TS]

  to see about the doctor she like totally [TS]

  gets it now and that's what she was in [TS]

  this episode she was like everything she [TS]

  did and suggested was right on the nose [TS]

  it wasn't you know she she knew what she [TS]

  was doing and she say she saved the day [TS]

  in the end in one way by being the one [TS]

  to say you don't need to do this you you [TS]

  know what you're letting yourself down [TS]

  if you go ahead with us and then setting [TS]

  it up for the next generation you have [TS]

  the possibility of having a companion [TS]

  who knows even more about the doctor in [TS]

  some ways than he does about himself but [TS]

  I was gonna say the overall i really [TS]

  enjoyed it as well I also like on the [TS]

  clear front that in that very first [TS]

  scene you get that call out to the first [TS]

  doctor with a foreman right cousin that [TS]

  the his granddaughter's last angry when [TS]

  I was the very first scene even more [TS]

  than that the first thing of this shows [TS]

  the sign pointing toward the junkyard [TS]

  which is where the TARDIS was but it's [TS]

  at coal Hill School which is where we [TS]

  first see Susan and her two teachers who [TS]

  become a barbarian who become the first [TS]

  other companion along with Susan and on [TS]

  the sign it says the head of the board [TS]

  of governors I chesterton which means [TS]

  that the guy who who is the head of the [TS]

  board of governors that school is ian [TS]

  from the first episode of Doctor Who [TS]

  which is pretty awesome so that they did [TS]

  they did the tip of the cap right at the [TS]

  beginning and then they had a motorcycle [TS]

  drive right into the TARDIS which by the [TS]

  way was really awesome and [TS]

  was i I was gonna say my one [TS]

  disappointment though which was watching [TS]

  the time war [TS]

  it felt kind of pedestrian to me like [TS]

  you're kind of imagine think the other [TS]

  just shouldn't imagine like these are [TS]

  people who have the power to manipulate [TS]

  time and space you feel like it would be [TS]

  this kind of conflict that's almost [TS]

  unfathomable like multi-layered hugely [TS]

  crazy conflict and at the end of the day [TS]

  it's people shooting at each other which [TS]

  is a little which is spectacular but [TS]

  like a little bit like a Time Lord so [TS]

  they're basically just people got [TS]

  somebody looking for more like a looper [TS]

  type special effects were composed [TS]

  suddenly started disappearing I I [TS]

  thought about that too i mean i can [TS]

  explain about away by saying this is [TS]

  like the ground war in the final [TS]

  invasion and it has to be done by force [TS]

  and that across the rest of the galaxy [TS]

  obviously crazy time things were [TS]

  happening or what a reference that with [TS]

  all the worlds that get burned away and [TS]

  everything that all the ripple effect [TS]

  right but you're absolutely right that [TS]

  as spectacular and it was and I was like [TS]

  this is doctor who this is really these [TS]

  are great special effects at the same [TS]

  time I was like it is a lot of pewpewpew [TS]

  of laser peeps you know [TS]

  yeah the laser beams look good they were [TS]

  good lady didn't look around you just [TS]

  felt a little weird because it felt like [TS]

  watching and crazy dominating the shops [TS]

  and stuff you didn't feel like Time [TS]

  Lords did you know that doctor who could [TS]

  look [TS]

  yeah I know what the heck is that about [TS]

  that was that was that was cool i like [TS]

  that [TS]

  clearly there's a horrible class system [TS]

  on Gallifrey because better like the [TS]

  time lords who have their little outfits [TS]

  in their little hood since things on [TS]

  their net and this is the stuff that the [TS]

  time surface everybody else has got like [TS]

  robes and is out in the dirt running [TS]

  around at the time presents i think [TS]

  those are the Gallifrey ends right there [TS]

  not Time Lords there the because the [TS]

  other the time presents you got a [TS]

  ten-time service and maybe we'll find [TS]

  out in a in a future episode [TS]

  maybe when they find out I i'm really [TS]

  looking forward to an episode that's [TS]

  entirely about the social hierarchy of [TS]

  Gallifrey [TS]

  oh I think they did that in the tom [TS]

  baker and it was really boring trade [TS]

  negotiations Jason oh yeah as exciting [TS]

  as trading home and that's that's what I [TS]

  was afraid they were going there with a [TS]

  Saigon you guys sit down and negotiate [TS]

  something like oh I don't call them the [TS]

  Trade Federation here that would be [TS]

  really bad but instead they liked left [TS]

  me like see we have a thing we gotta go [TS]

  to now so you guys just work it out and [TS]

  then we didn't see them again like we're [TS]

  dropping that plot now we're done it's [TS]

  done let's see what else what else to [TS]

  talk about here i mean i thought it was [TS]

  a fun i thought it was a funny episode [TS]

  i'm looking forward to actually seeing [TS]

  it in 3d which I'm going to see on [TS]

  monday i'm just because i have been a [TS]

  headache will it give me but I'm gonna [TS]

  give it a go there were a few moments [TS]

  where I was like that's that's there to [TS]

  be i bet that spectacular in 3d but i [TS]

  love how all the paintings have ios7 [TS]

  clearly haha that's right that's exactly [TS]

  it did kind of scare me with Gallifrey [TS]

  Falls no more of their like oh yeah [TS]

  we're gonna you know throw a Dalek out [TS]

  of the painting as we emerge from it and [TS]

  then it started to wonder I'm like are [TS]

  we going to find ourselves a future [TS]

  episode where Dalek suddenly start [TS]

  pouring out of the paintings in the [TS]

  National Archives what is it exactly [TS]

  everybody started the Daleks because [TS]

  they kept coming back like they think [TS]

  there's like eight episodes with dogs in [TS]

  the mood at the time or was it did not [TS]

  work disaster terrible plan [TS]

  what else to talk about in here we have [TS]

  the big the strange museum the black the [TS]

  black bag gallery of art black archive [TS]

  where you cannot invitar started even [TS]

  the TARDIS can go and so they do a very [TS]

  clever thing which is they go like to [TS]

  Gallifrey and then go through the [TS]

  painting it's like all right I'll go [TS]

  with that [TS]

  ok let's cover the of the moment where [TS]

  she just looks because can't you just [TS]

  once walked by a fence without picking [TS]

  up around like out David tendencies the [TS]

  fuzzies like oh I'll put this on right [TS]

  yeah they're tired i do really enjoy the [TS]

  interactions between the two doctors [TS]

  wouldn't have gotten that much of the [TS]

  modern era except for a couple little [TS]

  one off you know there's the père David [TS]

  Rizzio one off but on [TS]

  I really enjoyed the most likely they're [TS]

  putting on the glasses [TS]

  yeah your type of admiring each other's [TS]

  glasses and we're making fun of each [TS]

  other for wearing with Sam shoes [TS]

  yeah right and the you know at the end [TS]

  where they're doing the negotiation [TS]

  thing they both put their feet up on the [TS]

  table and everything that they do a nice [TS]

  job of of the again you have characters [TS]

  you have actors playing two characters [TS]

  who are the same character but also not [TS]

  the same character which is always [TS]

  interesting to watch when you put them [TS]

  in a room together especially when you [TS]

  have you know someone like the doctor [TS]

  who's supposed to be so brilliant [TS]

  it's interesting to see to note these [TS]

  similarities and the differences in [TS]

  terms of how they portray them they [TS]

  would they're a great combination really [TS]

  funny I I felt in some ways this is a [TS]

  Steven Moffat tribute to the the classic [TS]

  TV episode the three doctors because [TS]

  it's the same it's a very similar [TS]

  dynamic where you got the current doctor [TS]

  and the most recent doctor and they have [TS]

  a little bit of a sparring relationship [TS]

  in fact right down to the fact that [TS]

  Patrick Troughton and the three doctor [TS]

  says exactly what David Tennant says [TS]

  which is you've redecorated [TS]

  I don't like it Anna and then there's [TS]

  the older previous doctor who thinks [TS]

  that there's something wrong with both [TS]

  of them which is William Hartnell and [TS]

  mrs. John heard and so it is a little [TS]

  bit of that same sort of like that was [TS]

  that was pretty good dynamic let's do [TS]

  that again and it was that was that was [TS]

  a lot of fun and those two guys together [TS]

  yeah they were that they were great i [TS]

  have to say somebody who really loves [TS]

  loves loves the the david tennant era it [TS]

  was so great to have David Tennant back [TS]

  as the doctor for a little while and get [TS]

  some new scenes including having his [TS]

  clothing line be exactly the same so we [TS]

  can once again say the last thing we [TS]

  ever heard the tenth doctor says I don't [TS]

  want to go because he says it again but [TS]

  it was great to see him and have and [TS]

  when I talk about the pacing earlier one [TS]

  of the things i liked is we got that [TS]

  chunk of david tennant's little [TS]

  adventure before the plot came in before [TS]

  the mat smith stuff Karen so we got a [TS]

  little like many little glimpse into an [TS]

  unseen Tenth Doctor adventure and got to [TS]

  see your old friend again which is part [TS]

  of what this is episode is trying to do [TS]

  so that was great to love seeing him [TS]

  kind of pop in I know where I love david [TS]

  tennant's so much and his humor [TS]

  again like you think that it's sort of [TS]

  in my memory I seem to remember David [TS]

  Tennant and matt smith being sort of [TS]

  similarly played doctors and then when [TS]

  you see them actually face-to-face you [TS]

  like no David Tennant has this wonderful [TS]

  sort of subset of mannerisms and and [TS]

  witticisms and jokes that I was like God [TS]

  forgot that i missed you so much right [TS]

  now but he's got it I had this argument [TS]

  with people when I think he matt smith [TS]

  first came on its like the thing about [TS]

  Matt's the 11th doctor said he's a [TS]

  little more alien and a little more [TS]

  wacky then then David Tennant the tenth [TS]

  doctors a little more charming right he [TS]

  doesn't think at the end to worry kisses [TS]

  Clara's hand and then kind of like winks [TS]

  at the 11th doctor you know he's got [TS]

  there both you know they're both [TS]

  handsome men whatever but they're you [TS]

  know they're there are they take it in [TS]

  slightly different directions in terms [TS]

  of how they deal with other people where [TS]

  you know the mat smith character right [TS]

  from like fish fingers and custard is [TS]

  kind of gawky and bizarre and and David [TS]

  handle on the other hand has a sort of [TS]

  self-assured smoothness to him [TS]

  yeah yeah it's definitely he can still [TS]

  do it [TS]

  I mean that was that was think it's only [TS]

  been three or four years right and and [TS]

  so of course you can but it was great to [TS]

  be reminded like he's still still got it [TS]

  he can still do that they apparently on [TS]

  the set they were joking they went to [TS]

  Steven Moffat while they were shooting [TS]

  and knowing that this wasn't a real [TS]

  possibility but they that Matt Smith and [TS]

  David Tennant went to Steven Moffat and [TS]

  said we got an idea for you the next [TS]

  series [TS]

  let's do you know four episodes with me [TS]

  at four episodes with him and then you [TS]

  know four episodes were work together [TS]

  just do that and and and and it's just [TS]

  like all you know that would be stoned [TS]

  Stephen off its head explode that would [TS]

  be great [TS]

  that would be great yeah speaking [TS]

  speaking events and adventures with how [TS]

  do you think the night of the doctor fit [TS]

  in with all this the the palm against [TS]

  guising fall again appear yes I was [TS]

  delightfully I mean just because it i [TS]

  was glad that it had not been spoiled [TS]

  for me so that when you like you know [TS]

  i-i've done again either i've actually [TS]

  never seen the doctor who movie but I I [TS]

  knew enough about it to know you know [TS]

  who he was and things like that and [TS]

  anyone else and not watch it has [TS]

  apparently [TS]

  why you have actually began in other [TS]

  roles masses you know smart familiar [TS]

  with him as an actor but it is really [TS]

  funny to you know see him a you're not [TS]

  the doctor you're expecting [TS]

  yes good punch and there was there was [TS]

  probably my favorite moment and again he [TS]

  was like oh my calendar because i think [TS]

  it was a it went live just as my kids [TS]

  get on the school bus one morning and i [TS]

  just had dental you know what I'm gonna [TS]

  watch this [TS]

  I don't care because I don't want it [TS]

  spoiled and Susie pop music I'm the [TS]

  doctor but not when you're expecting [TS]

  like ah i was i was just up and making [TS]

  tea and in at you know six thirty in the [TS]

  morning and there was a tweet that was [TS]

  just like they posted the night of the [TS]

  doctor and so I got to see it without [TS]

  even seeing Paul McGann anywhere and I [TS]

  was sitting there thinking come on Paul [TS]

  McGann publication it's probably get [TS]

  yeah and you know he is that TV movie [TS]

  isn't isn't good i like to have this [TS]

  that that that short redeemed him and we [TS]

  got to see him in a and he's good he's a [TS]

  good actor he's great in the audios and [TS]

  so to get him a little more screen time [TS]

  and I like how it links it in it says [TS]

  this is what happened with the doctor is [TS]

  that Paul McGann got kind of pulled into [TS]

  the time war but refused and said no I'm [TS]

  gonna just a minister to people on the [TS]

  sidelines and then at some point [TS]

  what happened is it got to the point was [TS]

  what I watching today right before the [TS]

  the new episode was on was like it got [TS]

  so bad that not only couldn't he save [TS]

  the woman on the spaceship but she was [TS]

  willing to sacrifice her own life just [TS]

  to kill a Time Lord because they had [TS]

  that was that bad and that's the thing [TS]

  that precipitates him being like all [TS]

  right I got to do something different i [TS]

  can't ignore this anymore and that makes [TS]

  the John Hurt incarnations we get to see [TS]

  sort of where he came from and that he [TS]

  was young right they used footage of [TS]

  john hurt from like the late seventies [TS]

  early eighties in that reflection at the [TS]

  very end to imply that he you know when [TS]

  we see him in India the doctor he has [TS]

  had a long life fighting the time war [TS]

  and we're catching him at kind of [TS]

  exhausted at the very end the thing [TS]

  where they the the sisterhood gives him [TS]

  the potion and says yeah because he [TS]

  points out that they have the secret too [TS]

  eternal boredom or eternal is funny and [TS]

  I'm kind of wondering if that's gonna [TS]

  tie in with oh wow he now has more [TS]

  regeneration because now he has eternal [TS]

  life [TS]

  I don't know yeah that's a better brain [TS]

  of morbius reference from the seventies [TS]

  but you know I whether whether I don't [TS]

  think that's I don't think I'm gonna tie [TS]

  into a way minisode but it did it did [TS]

  sort of plant the seed that there are [TS]

  lots of different ways to to do to do [TS]

  regenerations but I was it was a good [TS]

  reference i actually thought one of the [TS]

  funniest things in there is when they [TS]

  say you have full minutes to live [TS]

  he said that's ages anyone for chest [TS]

  bring me knitting very very funny i do [TS]

  want to make a mention of from the the [TS]

  day of the doctor the three charges with [TS]

  their various different yeah thats [TS]

  something yeah we have though which one [TS]

  of them is my it's the one that had the [TS]

  crab cakes yeah dude [TS]

  although he laughs because it's like I'm [TS]

  kidding i know of course which one is [TS]

  mine is like which one of mine rolleyes [TS]

  and then often goes yeah that was a that [TS]

  was a nice moment that you know makes [TS]

  fans happy to see all the all the many [TS]

  many TARDISes and the interiors bumping [TS]

  around through the different interiors [TS]

  and different the circle things i love [TS]

  the circle things with a 40 ideal know [TS]

  that was really that was really cool [TS]

  have a flash through them to that it was [TS]

  like you know what you know again [TS]

  hand-waving explanation of like what [TS]

  does it look like this one and then that [TS]

  one and then this one is like back it [TS]

  started doing a thing [TS]

  whatever let's move on but if we got to [TS]

  see them all that I also loved the the [TS]

  line you know you can't trust the [TS]

  Americans haven't you seen the movies [TS]

  yeah and that's a nice little big guess [TS]

  what would they do with time travel [TS]

  yes ya can't be allowed we should also [TS]

  mention that one of the things the BBC [TS]

  posted today was a 30-minute long comedy [TS]

  movie written and directed by peter [TS]

  davison it's on bbc's website will put [TS]

  it in the show notes [TS]

  it it's hilarious and the entire plot of [TS]

  it is it's called the five ish doctors [TS]

  reunion or reboot the five ish doctors [TS]

  reboot and it's the plot is Peter [TS]

  Davison Colin Baker sylvester mccoy [TS]

  occasionally paul mcgann and the [TS]

  voicemail of Tom Baker [TS]

  are are desperately trying to get in the [TS]

  50th anniversary in some way shape or [TS]

  form and uh the and it's very funny and [TS]

  there is actually something interesting [TS]

  at the end you're like huh [TS]

  could that be them hidden away we'll [TS]

  we'll never know but it's worth watching [TS]

  if you liked especially old doctor who [TS]

  at all because it's it's it's a very [TS]

  funny bit and there are a lot of good [TS]

  cameos in it there's a great bit with [TS]

  john barrowman in it and it's worth [TS]

  watching it's very very funny and I [TS]

  think my favorite line in the entire [TS]

  thing that's probably when colin baker [TS]

  at some point says to Sylvester McCoy [TS]

  what you're in The Hobbit why aren't you [TS]

  talking about that because i won't shut [TS]

  up about being in the hobbit so I make [TS]

  my favorite line and I won't spoil [TS]

  anything about it but my favorite line [TS]

  would be Moffat calling his secretary [TS]

  and saying make sure I'm not disturbed [TS]

  to the rescue [TS]

  yes yes yes after getting off getting [TS]

  another with yet another voicemail from [TS]

  peter davison asking just making you [TS]

  aware that he's available for the 50th [TS]

  anniversary if they would like to cast [TS]

  him in something very very funny but [TS]

  it's on the BBC website it's not a even [TS]

  a side project thing it's like done by [TS]

  the BBC with Peter Davison and gave [TS]

  attendance and briefly and david [TS]

  tennant's wife who's Peter Davison's [TS]

  daughter isn't it briefly and it's very [TS]

  funny worth watching and the voicemail [TS]

  of Tom Baker is it it's true there's [TS]

  that there's a five doctors joke it [TS]

  actually which is fantastic so never [TS]

  before will you laughs at the nokia [TS]

  ringtone generic nokia ringtone as you [TS]

  will laugh in that in that episode so [TS]

  all right well what have we left behind [TS]

  anything else we wanna know that we [TS]

  haven't covered that we should talk [TS]

  about about this episode is it Christmas [TS]

  yet [TS]

  oh man it's closed and soon according to [TS]

  the malls yes very very close and [TS]

  there'll be another episode we will see [TS]

  there was a little teaser at the end of [TS]

  this which just showed many you know it [TS]

  showed weeping angels and Daleks and [TS]

  cyber men and silence and said you know [TS]

  this what's the name of this planet [TS]

  Mandalore and silence will fall and that [TS]

  was the end so it's the Steven Moffat [TS]

  tries to wrap up all of his dangling [TS]

  plot threads and sent Matt Smith off in [TS]

  a little more than a month but that was [TS]

  all that was really in it that was not [TS]

  what the announcer said there wasn't a [TS]

  Steven Moffat will now attending tested [TS]

  that would be good [TS]

  the doctor will return in Steven Moffat [TS]

  yes anything else [TS]

  no I'm just ready to watch it again [TS]

  yeah yeah I'm gonna watch it is you know [TS]

  couple more times sure mom [TS]

  alright well this was a lot of fun i [TS]

  love i love doing this let's do this [TS]

  again on Christmas [TS]

  how about that your we can do it we can [TS]

  do it we have the technology dan dan [TS]

  will be somewhere with where with no [TS]

  internet and he'll dial-in from a rotary [TS]

  phone and we will be sending my [TS]

  contributions via time Telegraph out I'm [TS]

  Telegraph that's a good one ya see [TS]

  because if you go by the rotary phone [TS]

  you might get sucked into the matrix and [TS]

  that's a whole yeah I I said wrong turn [TS]

  somewhere different different podcast [TS]

  alright well then i would like to thank [TS]

  my participants in the flash flash [TS]

  podcast for their flash participation [TS]

  David lower thanks for dialing in and [TS]

  talking about Doctor Who for for a [TS]

  little bit thanks i'm always happy to [TS]

  flash ways it's huh got off Scott [TS]

  McNulty you dinner has gotten cold but [TS]

  thanks for being here trap travel back [TS]

  in time yes but I can't go back in my [TS]

  own timeline so i'm screwed made time [TS]

  can be rewritten [TS]

  you can get that you can use time the [TS]

  power of time travel to make sure your [TS]

  dinner is slightly less cold put it in [TS]

  my pocket or a microwave you could you [TS]

  also use that and then I was gonna say [TS]

  Billy papers in the corner waiting to [TS]

  help you warm it up [TS]

  yes the battle buddy I gotta go yes [TS]

  dance and Dan Morgan thank you i'm glad [TS]

  that i was able to process all 40 [TS]

  minutes of this flash cast in about four [TS]

  seconds you're brilliant like that and [TS]

  certainly called well as always thank [TS]

  you for being here [TS]

  and as always thank you for inviting me [TS]

  and man I can't wait to watch the teaser [TS]

  for the next episode have it on our [TS]

  television right now we're excited [TS]

  alright alright and it wouldn't be a [TS]

  flash cast without you and thanks to [TS]

  everybody out there for listening to [TS]

  this unedited flash sudden thing of the [TS]

  uncomfortable we will see you again next [TS]

  weekend for regular episode and we will [TS]

  see you with another flash cast on [TS]

  Christmas for Matt Smith lands oops oh [TS]

  alright until then this is jason l I've [TS]

  been your host I until I regenerate into [TS]

  Peter Capaldi be huh [TS]

  thanks for listening being comfortable [TS]

  goodnight [TS]