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Cortex 49: Waiting for the End

 

00:00:00   so our long international nightmare is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   over and you have published a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   YouTube video oh that's what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4">TS</a>]

00:00:07   talking about what international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/7">TS</a>]

00:00:09   nightmare well you know it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   national nightmare the everybody suffers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   oh right right the whole globe yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16   everyone has been waiting I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19   looked I took a look at the dates today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21   mm-hmm the previous video was posted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   the eleventh of November 2016 mmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/23">TS</a>]

00:00:26   then you followed it up from 29 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   March 2017 so you got it in just under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/28">TS</a>]

00:00:32   the five month mark they're very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35   to that so congratulations you're back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/35">TS</a>]

00:00:40   you've returned from your hiatus well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43   published a video we can say that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46   this has been a very long time though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/46">TS</a>]

00:00:47   you know I mean we touched on that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   previous episodes so I'm pleased to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   that you got over the hump ah yes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55   always I think no one is more pleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   than I am yeah I mean it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01   important that you're able to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   to do this you know that that is it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   is important to you mostly it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   important to the people around you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   guess then that you're able to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13   doing the thing that you should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   I very much enjoyed spending some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18   in the reddit thread for that video who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/78">TS</a>]

00:01:21   there was lots of great jokes in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   from cortex and hello internet listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26   you know about how you're a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   podcaster who makes YouTube videos now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   it's my favorite thing yeah I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   that is your favorite thing Mike think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   can see why you would like that like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35   change the frame of this mm-hmm but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/95">TS</a>]

00:01:39   always with this stuff I always like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   promote the reddit thread because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43   like four things that I see on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   Internet I'm always aware like oh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/106">TS</a>]

00:01:47   conversation about the thing can often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   be more enjoyable than the thing itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/109">TS</a>]

00:01:50   and so that's why I always like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   really promote that reddit thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   because I know that experience that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57   like watching a thing and then joking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00   about it with a thousand anonymous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   strangers is a way better experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   than just just watching the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   directly so yes there were there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   lots of in jokes this time around for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   this video which is inevitable my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   absolute favorite is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   what was the top comment when i went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   take a look which is how somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   noticed that the ad at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   video you introduce it by saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   episode has been brought to you by it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   like you it just shows like where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/144">TS</a>]

00:02:28   brain has been for the last four months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/148">TS</a>]

00:02:29   which is just making podcasts or not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32   disagree with that the CSO dove gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/152">TS</a>]

00:02:35   explains that's what it is that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   you've never done that before like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/157">TS</a>]

00:02:38   either I think that you're just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   to get out of this one my friend is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   prior art on that guy's it's an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   of gray explains I don't buy it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   that you one hundred percent which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   used to doing podcast ads and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   put a podcast and at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   video you just we're in a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53   wrong mindset for I think it's hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   disagree disagree this episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/175">TS</a>]

00:02:58   YouTube podcast i mate yeah exactly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   makes perfect sense how long you been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   working on this video for like how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   did it actually take to put this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   together and that is an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   question let me look at my calendar here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   the first draft of this video was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15   in the beginning of februari okay and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   know that because this is when i was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/198">TS</a>]

00:03:24   Amsterdam the product of us gradation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   this video it is totally a product of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29   gradation this video uh regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/209">TS</a>]

00:03:33   listeners now I do like to go away to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   try to do like focused on solid work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/215">TS</a>]

00:03:40   I was having trouble writing and I took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/220">TS</a>]

00:03:43   a great kitchen to go to Amsterdam and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   was working on something else that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   thought was going to be the next video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/228">TS</a>]

00:03:49   but I was having a really hard time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/229">TS</a>]

00:03:50   it and it wasn't going anywhere and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   some point in that trip I just wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/232">TS</a>]

00:03:56   very rough draft of the thing that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   become this video and then over the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02   few weeks realized oh I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03   the thing that I should work on and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   stopped working on the other project and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   instead shifted focus to to this one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/247">TS</a>]

00:04:10   that's the starting point of this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   haven't seen it this video is about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14   social security number in the US and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   what that means and where it came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/256">TS</a>]

00:04:17   and I guess may I took from it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20   why is fatally flawed as a means of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/260">TS</a>]

00:04:23   identification we have something in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   UK called the net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   tional insurance number yeah yeah which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30   is very similar but it's not used and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   ours actually says it's got printed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   it that it is not a form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   identification so the UK kind of stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   to that as a thing as opposed to I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   some of the animation and this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   so good like a lot of the jokes in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44   one really really good so it's either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   you or your enemy as someone was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   a good day like there was a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/289">TS</a>]

00:04:50   really funny stuff in this one but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   enjoyed a lot I think my favorite part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   is the caveman talking to the diner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   circles the dinosaurs called Bruno that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/296">TS</a>]

00:04:59   just really got me man hey why is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   data so cool Bruno it doesn't matter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   I love it now you have to ask the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04   animator that was it that was his joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   oh really I'm pleased that I pleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   that kind of stuff happening though ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/308">TS</a>]

00:05:09   know is that this is the collaboration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   there was a lot of really good humor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13   this one yeah it's working well I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   glad you liked it I'm I'm sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   frankly baffled as to why anyone outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20   of the United States would have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/320">TS</a>]

00:05:21   interest in this video at all because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   it's such a oh well you see let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   you because sometimes okay look I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/325">TS</a>]

00:05:29   the United States of America right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   love all the people within out a lot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   culture i love the place i'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/333">TS</a>]

00:05:34   everything but when you live outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   the US any time that you can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   the US has done something that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   silly mm-hmm and stupid mm-hmm there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43   an enjoyment in that to be had by people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   outside of the US uh okay hmm it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/346">TS</a>]

00:05:50   like ah look at you now that kind of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/350">TS</a>]

00:05:54   I you know I particularly liked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   Eagle sound when the passport was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   know you kid there was like his bald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   eagle noise yeah about reach in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   background I spent a lot of time going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   through sound effects vehicles trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/365">TS</a>]

00:06:06   find just the right one for that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   like that was a very last minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/368">TS</a>]

00:06:11   addition that I think there was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   the morning of I decided to put that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   it was it was very last minute was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   Eagle sign those kinds of things really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   appeal to non-americans I think yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/379">TS</a>]

00:06:24   well okay I guess I guess that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   some some sense then I figured this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   would be a video with much more narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   appeal but i'm looking through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   demographics from the live feed stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   like why is anybody not in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/394">TS</a>]

00:06:35   watching this video I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   well I mean talking about appeal was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   to do this it looks like it's doing very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   well as we record it's like Oh liking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   like kind closed closing in on 1.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/405">TS</a>]

00:06:49   million views or something it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   it would do beef and by the time we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/411">TS</a>]

00:06:52   done recording yeah I'm pretty I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   pretty surprised this is that pent-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55   demand man you know people just waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/415">TS</a>]

00:06:58   for that gray video hitting the bell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   waiting for you to come you know hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01   the bell the little subscribe Belgian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   know about this oh oh right yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   sorry yeah Bell me I think is the phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   that is used on YouTube a lot now Bell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   me bro but L me bro this is a this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/430">TS</a>]

00:07:14   like a second level of notification for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   YouTube like you have to explicitly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   asked it to tell you about every videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   and creators this is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   evolution of what does a subscriber mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   nothing right yeah it's like yes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   transition subscribers into meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   nothing and so then needed to add an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   additional layer on top which would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   over the role of what subscribing used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   to me yeah which I actually don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   is the craziest of systems it it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/458">TS</a>]

00:07:41   the word subscriber now means like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/461">TS</a>]

00:07:47   that word doesn't match anymore and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   should really just be like on facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   it should just be at you like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   channel right that's that would be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   appropriate terminology for what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   actually occurring that's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   way of putting it because that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   how Facebook works I mean but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   have the problem that I'm sure you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   but love whether like whole people a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   transom right yeah yeah yeah only so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   many people saw this if you just give us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/488">TS</a>]

00:08:09   a little bit of money everyone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   wanted to see it can see ya yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/491">TS</a>]

00:08:15   right there is the reason why I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   don't use Facebook is I just I deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   resent that their business practice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   based around holding your audience at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/500">TS</a>]

00:08:24   ransom for you alright that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   fundamentally what it is and it's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   don't invest a lot of time in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29   platform because it feels like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   investing I'm investing in my own jailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   right and it's like your own jailer will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   make make you a bigger jail cells like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   yes but I like I have a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   foundational problem with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   relationship right and don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   really want to put more time into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45   because it's like we've YouTube you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   I think the assumptions just all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   systems useless which is why everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   doesn't see everything but with facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/534">TS</a>]

00:08:54   are they purposefully doing this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   they purposefully hold the content back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   from all of the people that liked a page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   so that the page creator will pay to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   kind of effectively advertise their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   content out to their subscribers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   it's like this I get that it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   a to such a displeasure for it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/549">TS</a>]

00:09:13   want to be involved in it yeah like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16   don't mean that as an overblown metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   it really does feel like investing in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   own jailer the Facebook thing it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23   just feels like I am helping someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   with whom i have an antagonistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   relationship yeah and even if that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/567">TS</a>]

00:09:31   me better off I'd rather not be involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   in this right that that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   there yeah I come just as we both do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/575">TS</a>]

00:09:38   better i am only but giving you more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   more power over me as less like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   thanks tell me everybody if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   subscriber to the youtube channel so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   can be notified you know don't worry I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   not gonna flood you with notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   no i mean like but one every six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   i think you can bank on turns out i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/592">TS</a>]

00:09:55   bail you I didn't know that I'd bailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   you by I had bailed you oh did you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   the notification on your phone yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/599">TS</a>]

00:10:03   I mean I was just on the your page now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   and I clicked the bell button and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   already it was already bailed so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   already been bailed by me so thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   Mike I appreciate it anytime anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   maybe I could belly a second channel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   high-quality content over there see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   back in style though right like over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   million views in in like 12 hours yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23   yeah again i'm i'm sitting here deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/623">TS</a>]

00:10:27   surprised because I really did expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   that this was going to be a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   narrow interest video but maybe people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/630">TS</a>]

00:10:37   don't know until they start it though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/637">TS</a>]

00:10:38   right yeah it's very possible it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   just be people are freaking out and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42   oh my god there's a new video and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45   clicking on starved for this content it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   could be anything yeah just like cgpgrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   upload why I hate your mum alright well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   I mean yes I gotta see something it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/652">TS</a>]

00:10:57   seems like a dramatic shift in content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   but okay I mean I sure there's some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02   of it yeah I'll have to see in a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/662">TS</a>]

00:11:06   of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/666">TS</a>]

00:11:07   I get the audience retention graph I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   be curious to see if that is wildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   different from other videos because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   actually I wouldn't be super surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   if it is although the only thing I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18   say there is how to put this I've had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   number of conversations that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/681">TS</a>]

00:11:22   convinced me of the great importance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   the algorithm in terms of how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   subscribers see your thing like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   you always know but I feel very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   convinced about this uh and that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/691">TS</a>]

00:11:35   gonna i'm going to be pretty confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   that the drop-off rate isn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   dramatic because i think if it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42   wouldn't be getting pushed out to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   subscribers i think it would it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45   buried very quickly by the YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   algorithm if you're right clicking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/707">TS</a>]

00:11:48   wouldn't go 1.2 million views if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   about to drop off a cliff in two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   yeah right it's what you're saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55   yeah that that's what I'm thinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   never would have gotten to this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58   because of because of those some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   those conversations that I've had I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02   actually thinking before I uploaded this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/722">TS</a>]

00:12:05   that this might this might be the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   that I upload and it just does terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   like because the algorithm doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   recommend it so I was kind of prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   to be sitting at like a hundred or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/735">TS</a>]

00:12:19   hundred thousand views a month from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   right for a thick like if the algorithm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22   just says like oh people are hitting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   and abandoning it immediately because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   too narrow focused so i will i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/745">TS</a>]

00:12:29   i am quite relieved that that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/749">TS</a>]

00:12:32   seems to not be the case i still wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/752">TS</a>]

00:12:33   if like you could be in a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   you're tricking the algorithm nuh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/755">TS</a>]

00:12:36   because you have so many other funnels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39   that you push people to that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   algorithm thinks that it's a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   people were looking for so it pumps it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   up anyway yeah it might be the case if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49   your youtube don't listen to this yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   don't listen you to you don't you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   need to adjust anything the system's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   working just fine skip ahead just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   little bit skip ahead will complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   about some stuff later you can listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   that but you know this part don't listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   to that just assume with like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/783">TS</a>]

00:13:04   mailing list and like Twitter and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   reddit and then you know because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   your videos always end up climbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/789">TS</a>]

00:13:10   reddit a bit I think because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   such an active subreddit they seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   bubble up to the front page quite a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   yeah they do they tend to do well on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   reddit uh and that I'm sure pushes a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24   of people into the video which I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25   assume in flight sit in the alga the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   room anyway yeah I just I don't know um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/807">TS</a>]

00:13:32   I feel like I used to be much more on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/812">TS</a>]

00:13:36   that side but again i'll just say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/816">TS</a>]

00:13:40   if I think some I have been given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/820">TS</a>]

00:13:43   impression that this has something has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   changed in YouTube that the the external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/825">TS</a>]

00:13:49   factors are mattering less than they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   have in the past and it's much more a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55   game of seeing what the retention is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/835">TS</a>]

00:13:59   very quickly that there's like a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   that tries to predict in advance if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/842">TS</a>]

00:14:05   video is going to be a good video very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   quickly based on the initial responses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   with the retention though I do wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   that like again with the nature of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   way that you make videos which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15   different to most people that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18   you make so few if people enjoy your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/858">TS</a>]

00:14:21   content don't just watch it because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/861">TS</a>]

00:14:24   something likes lesson let's imagine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   have 250,000 people right LAN are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/866">TS</a>]

00:14:31   big fans and we'll just watch the videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   because you made them mm-hmm and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   there's so few of them that like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   may as well watch it all because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   what they're gonna get for a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   months right like you assume that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41   is a portion of the ordinance that know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   this about you mmm that maybe again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/882">TS</a>]

00:14:46   that's also tricking the algorithm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/886">TS</a>]

00:14:47   because that you're at your initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   retention figures are good because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   people were just watching it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   because I've always thinking to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54   waiting for four months it may as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/894">TS</a>]

00:14:55   ms will finish these next four minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/895">TS</a>]

00:14:58   you know because of all eyes are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   gonna do yeah I guess what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/900">TS</a>]

00:15:03   here is I've trained my audience not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/903">TS</a>]

00:15:04   be picky I think there's got to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/904">TS</a>]

00:15:07   percentage of people that are that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   right then we'll just watch it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   it's always going to be an element of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   entertainment whether they care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16   the thing that it's about or not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   feel like I am in that place with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   videos I find them entertaining that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   I'll watch them I don't care what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23   they're about it's like no I see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   one to be like ah social security I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/925">TS</a>]

00:15:28   I don't really care about that oh I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   wait for the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   you know my beard will go a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33   grayer and and then I'll get the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   one do you know what I mean like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   see it it's like well this I see it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38   entertainment I'm not like waiting for C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   to be great to teach me something I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   yeah yeah I view the videos very much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   that category as well it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   you say that though because that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   relate to perhaps my the favorite kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/948">TS</a>]

00:15:52   of comment that I get is when when I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55   see people leave a comment saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   they watched a video about a topic on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   which they thought that they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/960">TS</a>]

00:16:01   absolutely no interest at all and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   still found it interesting I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   feel that way about most videos like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   lot of the stuff that you make is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   not a thing that I am interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10   right because I think a lot of our base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   interests are very different like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   watched your star trek video and I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   it very interesting and I I've seen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   one star trek movie and maybe two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/979">TS</a>]

00:16:20   episodes of the TV show I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   interested in Star Trek you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   lord of rings videos I don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   little rings but watch the videos yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   maybe maybe you have a point there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   then maybe that is that is related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   the kind of comment that I find most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   satisfying in terms of feedback and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   people like yeah this thing sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   really boring but it turns out that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   you've you've made it interesting to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   hear about a Social Security number yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   ID number in a country in which I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   reside well I means that that is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   you do though right like it's why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:52   takes so long to make the videos because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   you have to make them interesting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   could make way more if you were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   like not worrying about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   entertainment aspect of it you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   I think you do a really good job your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   talent is in that you're able to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   these things interesting whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   someone's interested in or not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   that's why they also take two months to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   make each one of them so here's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   my specialty boring topics making boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:16   topics fun this is the next tagline I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   just trying to rebrand you okay like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   getting really good at the the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   taglines for your channel she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   really boring stuff that's kind of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   it's kind of fun gutsy to be right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1047">TS</a>]

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00:19:02   their support of this show and relay FM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   we were talking last time about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:08   feeling of whether mice which video was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   good enough right mm-hmm like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   sitting on it honing it hone in it I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:15   got to put it out there and you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18   that you sometimes feel like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19   imagine this from them that surely was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   some extra pressure on you oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   Michael when when you were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   that I just I was like not really decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   because because I thought I just kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:34   thinking like we're gonna have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:35   conversation again you know whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   this this video goes up yes I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:42   there's a few things going on here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   this this is a video that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:50   it's fine like we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   last time in the parade of failures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   episode how you can see like flaws and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   your own stuff yeah and this is a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1196">TS</a>]

00:20:00   in which I can just see a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   things that I would that I would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   change I kids it's it's a funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08   but like even the fact that the video is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:09   I think the the running time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   something like seven minutes of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   talking about stuff and that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   indication to me of like his videos too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   long right if I had another few weeks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   work on it I could get this down to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   minutes like this this to me feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   it should be a five minute video that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   quite a long video Yeah right like if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   video goes over five minutes it tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   be a bigger topic than this yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:36   this this is exactly the thing it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   you know it is that old joke of like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   takes it takes longer to write a shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   letter like this is exactly the thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   takes longer to make a shorter video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   it's it's this one and it was also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:48   death and dynasties video is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   thing of like they're both around seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   minutes which to me feels like a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:56   good enough like you were talking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   your switch video last time like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   good enough and it starts to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   the questions of how long do you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   spend on this before actually getting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   uploaded and the death and dynasties one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   was an example of I wanted that one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   go up relatively quickly after the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13   for rulers because I felt like it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   important little follow-up and it had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   be timed in a very particular way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   the election no even no further comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   on that interpret that however however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24   you wish that I chose to upload that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   day before rather than the day after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   election but anyway moving right along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   and then this one is it was a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   thing of just simply the sheer amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:36   time it has been since I uploaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   something before right and combine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:42   with what i'm thinking is going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   relatively narrow interest topic it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47   like you have spent many weeks on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:51   already is it really worth it to maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:55   spend two or three more weeks trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:59   shave down two minutes off of this video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:04   but not you know you would you knew you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   were not making a magnum opus exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   yeah but this wasn't like a human's did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   not apply right like this this video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   wasn't you know intended to be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   deal right so that's why when you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:18   having that a conversation about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   switch video like this is all that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   running through my head was like I am in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   the middle of this exact calculation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   right now of what point do you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   working on a thing and publish it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31   there's an additional difficulty here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:35   which is to talk talking behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   scenes of how this video got produced is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   that it's actually the script that ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:43   up being the thing that I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   about was actually only made in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:48   second half of the writing phase so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:51   thing that I started in Amsterdam was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   video that was very narrowly focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   just the number and a lot to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:59   digits and like the patterns of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   digits and and what do all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:02   things mean but three weeks into working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:06   on that I realize like this this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:09   not work as a video but I've kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   pulling in all of these other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12   that were related to it and so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15   also a case of where I feel like I ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16   up with a kind of Frankenstein's monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   video about is it about the card or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:23   it about the number like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   that's a lot less smooth then it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   have otherwise been because the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   video had nothing to do with the card it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   was entirely the number but then I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   accreting all of these things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   thought were interesting around the card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   or around the system and ended up kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   shrinking and shrinking and shrinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   and cutting down to essentially nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   what I had spent the first several weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   on so it's it's it was an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   process and I'm relieved that it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   look very relieved it's over so when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:55   were doing these on your own I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:58   that it was easier to keep working and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:06   working and refining and refining and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   improving because all you were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   which is making more work for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   is my assumption would be that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:16   you're working with somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   you may not continue to give them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:21   the tiny tiny my new changes because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:25   have to keep asking somebody to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:26   right do you see while going with that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   know where you're going with this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   the the thing that I have been doing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34   far with the animator and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   there's another video which i started in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   November which hopefully will be up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   month or two which has been going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   through the same process is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:49   the animations don't happen until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   last possible second so any real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:55   animation does not occur until I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   recorded the audio that makes a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   sense all right but there's a lot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   can be done ahead of time illustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   Robin an animation right I assume yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   so there's a lot of storyboarding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   can be done and in particular there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   lot of asset creation that can be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:16   so what I'm trying to do is is let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:20   animator know like we're going to need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   teachers we're going to need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   firefighters we're going to need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   Amish guy all right we're gonna need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:26   these things we're going to need these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27   things and if we only end up using half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:31   of the assets that are created that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   not there's not a terrible loss and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   means that if we have more than is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   necessary like it helps in the animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:39   phase later so I'd have to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:42   actual calendar but I think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   maybe ten calendar days of real like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   have recorded the audio go like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   going to animate it now um it's of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   somewhere around there but nonetheless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:56   the animators been working on assets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:00   since almost the very beginning when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:03   started writing a thing I like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:04   pretty sure we're gonna do with social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:05   security video just start drawing social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   security cards and we'll figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   later did you feel like an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   pressure I don't know what the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   or to the business like who's has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17   such a big break was there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18   additional pressure than just the usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   pressures I was trying to tell myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:27   that there wasn't but obviously I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:31   there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32   I think there really is a feeling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33   like I can see it in the feedback that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:36   if I go dark for a while people start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39   assuming that I'm working on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40   really big that makes sense it does make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:44   sense from an audience member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:45   perspective and occasionally that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   happened there's been a bigger video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   after a bigger break and so I do know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   that they're there is some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   audience inbuilt expectation for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   and yet it does make it harder but I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:03   very much try to ignore that and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:07   expecting that this video would go very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   much counter to the pattern like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   not expecting this video to do super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   well and so I'm like I'm prepared to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:17   against that pattern to not feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   have to have a big long amazing video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:23   that appeals to the entire audience like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26   I'm willing to do something that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   I'm risking being much smaller and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   much less well than on average so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:34   people to risk going against the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:37   pattern but yeah without a doubt I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   when it gets to be a longer time between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   videos there there is more expectation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:45   and pressure that the next video is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   going to be larger but it's like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:50   change the fact that that's not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51   going to work so I try to ignore that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54   but in my hearts of hearts like I wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   had some three hour long video that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   had released right of life look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   thing it's amazing right that but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   that's just not the way it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   work out all the time why make that risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:06   like why you know you say like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   okay with making the risk of choosing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   do a video that might not have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   broadest appeal but like why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:17   make that risk why not I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:20   as easy as it would be why not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   something I'll make a choice to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   something that has already repeal like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:25   why would you settle on that and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   okay I'm fine didn't make this risk I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:28   think there's a part of me which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:33   happy to go against expectations as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   like this then there's a there's a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:39   of me which is which sees a real upside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42   in actually potentially releasing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:46   that doesn't match expectations after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   real big break because then it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   precedent-setting right like hey cgpgrey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   might disappear for a couple months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:54   you're gonna get a video on a detail of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:58   a bureaucratic system that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   involved in like that like don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   it feels like it's helping out future me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   by not setting expectations yeah this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08   this is a big thing for you this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   this is the thing you do this I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   this of you like this this idea of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15   trying to set the expectation that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:20   is no expectations that are set mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   like that is the X the expectation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   want to say is that there isn't any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   exactly perfect that is that is nailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:31   it that's like it's like the only rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   is there's no rules yeah exactly exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36   I mean I think again we touch on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:40   last time but it's the same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:41   like expectations about what the topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   my video is cover and I always feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   my videos cover things that interest me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   like I'm making videos that interest me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   that's all it is if you're seeing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   pattern that's in your mind that's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   you right that's not on me so yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   think I think you're right there Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57   that there is definitely a I don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:01   trying to nail home that there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   expectation with regards to schedule or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06   topic or or video quality or or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09   right just like they're just gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   things sometimes and sometimes there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   not so another new tagline for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   channel we don't need more tag lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:18   it's like a paragraph of text on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:21   banner of the image yeah starts out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   okay listen I need set some ground rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26   here you should know what you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   into finishes just bail me bro today's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:32   episode of cortex is brought to you by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1832">TS</a>]

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00:30:36   has gone ahead and created the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1836">TS</a>]

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00:30:40   and eliminate those Commission driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   inflated prices Casper's in-house team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   of engineers spent thousands of hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   developing their mattress he has a sleek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   design as delivered and it's impossibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   small box so you can very easily get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   up the stairs caspar now offers an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   adaptive pillow and soft breathable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   sheets as well their mattress have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   a supportive memory for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   it has just the right thing and just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   right bounds and is breathable design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   helps to regulate your temperature for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04   out the night it is obsessively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   engineered at a shockingly fair price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   because Casper have been able to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   ahead and eliminate those showrooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14   they're able to pass those savings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15   directly on to you all of Casper's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:18   mattresses are quality and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21   designed and developed in America buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   a Casper mattress online is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   risk-free yes it is risk-free because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   they offer a free delivery and free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:29   return to the US Canada and now the UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   as well with a 100 night home trial if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35   you don't love it they'll pick it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   refund you everything you should be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   to sleep on that mattress know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   right for you feel comfortable in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   make sure that you have your best dreams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:44   in it before you go ahead and say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   i'm going to sleep on this for the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48   third of my life so you get that 109 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   home trial so you can truly give it a go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   you can get fifty dollars towards any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   mattress purchase by visiting casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   calm / cortex and using the code cortex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   terms and conditions apply thank you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   much to casper for their continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   support of this show is the thing i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   to talk to you about yeah we have spoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   at length about one of our favorite I RS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   applications which is called workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   and workflow hmm enables you to if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:18   have an iOS device to create little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   actions they chained together our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:21   applications they talk to ap is it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:25   way for you to kind of automate some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   stuff on your deal is it listen to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   listen to your boring explanation there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   Mike do you know what workflow allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31   you to do what does it do it allows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   to use your iPad like a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:36   device yes it is the key tool that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:40   allows you to use your iPad like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   professional would that's what workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   is and vital irreplaceable tool we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:50   a situation right now where even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   best thing all the worst thing has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53   happened and there is literally no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   to know in which direction this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   to go because Apple has bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   company that makes it hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:04   so we are sitting right now a crossroads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:07   in which either apple takes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:12   application then this team to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   something like workflow native to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   platform like its it has it hooks deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   within the heart of iOS maybe Mac OS or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:23   they just really like this team and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:26   they're just going to go work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:27   something else and workflow which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:28   currently available and now free so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   should try it if you've never played a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   bit before that we'll just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35   wither on the vine well I think we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   take heart in the great history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:42   software acquisitions in the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   world I think we can all agree that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47   a big company acquires a small company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   it has always been for the best for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   best it's like you know they're usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:57   sunset it and sunsets are nice you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   yeah dude you can enjoy a sunset yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   yeah say what what would you say eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   percent of acquisitions the result is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   the product acquired lingers for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:11   with software updates in doubt and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:15   eventually just dies and the team who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   creates it is absorbed within the larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:21   monstrosity and then to those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   wait until their contracts up and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   shares vest and then they leave the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   company and saw their own thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   money that they made reckons to be how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   it goes yeah that seems like eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   percent of acquisitions yeah so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:40   been going through the grieving process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41   about this honestly it's been a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:46   weird week or two for me because i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:50   like I've gone through sadness and anger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   and bargaining I've been going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   all of this because I really like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2094">TS</a>]

00:35:00   work on iOS right it's a big thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   me and and you nailed it in saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   like if you want to work on iOS you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   of have to have this application because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   there's some stuff that you just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   do otherwise yeah there were there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   two changes that made working on an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:18   a a real laptop replacement for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:22   people and they were split-screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   multitasking and the existence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   workflow app I think those two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30   together are the key that changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:36   way I OS and the way iPads work for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   lot of people they've made it possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   to replace a laptop or replace a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44   computer for a large portion of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   work and there isn't anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:49   replaces workflow though there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   another application I mean if it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   away the way that you would replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55   is by doing things slower and or in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2155">TS</a>]

00:36:00   more conversant a right using two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:03   three applications in strange ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   try and replace one mmm and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:10   concern for me and this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   something that's been on my mind a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   recently about not being in control of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:18   things that you rely on I mean there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:22   huge one for you which is YouTube right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   you know we spoke about is so many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   I mean and there's been all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27   stories recently of big companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   pulling out of YouTube ad buys and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   like that mmm and it's like well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   that's a huge thing right like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   absolutely no control over that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   your business and then it just comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   down all the way to these little tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   that enable us to format markdown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:46   such a way that it can be easily emailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   mmm these are things that we rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51   that we can't control I mean we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   talking about Trella you know Trello has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56   been bought recently I mean Trello is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   app that we both use a lot for specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   things but that might go away and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03   kind of in this like am I am I going off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   the grid here is that what I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:06   like you I need to live off my own labs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09   like where are we going with this yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   mean this is like this is always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   problem right that you rely on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:19   and they become vital and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   realize that you are open to a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   kind of vulnerability right and and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   is this is actually just we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   about with facebook earlier right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:30   you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31   a lot of success on Facebook but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   suddenly you're actually quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33   vulnerable to Facebook and and the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   things happen and it can be the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   with tools like and what tools do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:42   invest your time and energy and effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   into and then once you've done that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:48   become at the mercy of the producers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:52   those tools and I just think like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:58   workflow acquisition is particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   concerning because it is this glue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:06   works with a whole bunch of other tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   like it is a it is a meta tool that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:11   makes all the other tools more useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:14   and I think that that that is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   the reason why it is I i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:19   extremely concerning that it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   required well the other part is who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:25   were bought by makes it even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26   because they were bought by a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   that won't let anybody talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   anything if ya won't work flow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   probably would have been a post on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   workflow blog at least trying to give us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   some false hope mm-hmm right yeah but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   have apple it's like nothing yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:44   like speaking of relying on tools like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:49   there is also a meta conversation around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   this that is about relying on apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53   the things things that Apple produces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   just in general Oh has has like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:58   foundational level of the tools that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:02   rely upon right is like workflows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   here at the top right but at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   is like I need to buy a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07   aluminum and glass that I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:10   work on right and in some form or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   another from some company and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:16   invested in apple ecosystem is that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19   of thing let's put a pin in that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:23   I have lots of thoughts about that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   and I'm sure you do but I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   go down that rabbit hole ya know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   could we go down that it's but it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:32   wide and inviting like this rabbit hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   so let's just I mean we'll just mark it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   on the map and we could go back to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   rabbit hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:39   return to that later i have i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   thinking about this idea of reliance on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:44   things we can't control and i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   question for you right I've tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   boil this down into a question is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:51   better to just use simple tools or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:55   take advantage of complex ones which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   allow you to build more productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   systems with the risk of potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   losing them so like if we stuck to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:05   really basic tools it's more easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:10   replaceable give everything that we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   is just basic spreadsheets basic text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:16   you can put them anywhere but when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   start using automation systems zapier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21   and ifttt and workflow to create more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:25   robust and powerful systems you open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:30   yourself up to the danger of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:31   things going away so is it better it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   like is it better to have loved and lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   I've never to have loved at all that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   basically the question that I'm asking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   don't know I feel like you're asking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   question about how civilization works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   here without is like oh it's like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47   you know as as as we progress in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   civilization you keep using more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   more complex tools upon which you rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   fantastically more and you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   control over what is electricity went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   away from averaging is it like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   this is actually like the meta question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02   here is like we're moving up the stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   of technological development it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:07   did you know I do you rely on logistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:10   chains right in the world to bring you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   food otherwise you starve to death but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   we can I think it is possible to boil it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   down to like this discussion we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17   having for weeks about automation mmm we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:21   don't have to do that stuff we just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   to because we enjoy it and it makes our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   working lives a little bit more pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   but we were doing all of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   we were doing before and if we just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   doing them it's easier to replace them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   because we used to just doing them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   way but once you start building these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   complex systems you end up with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   ways that they can break I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:44   very context dependent right and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:48   like you know it's like that quote like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   the things should be a sin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   as possible but no simpler all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   which is like a great helpful thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   I feel that way about the tools like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   generally prefer simpler tools over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   complex tools like like4like for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:05   in terms of just thinking like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   writing environment this is a case where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:11   I have four I mean for all of my writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:16   life now greatly preferred the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   where I can have a bunch of text files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   in dropbox and they will sync with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:24   whatever program i'm using to do my text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:27   editing and that always to me feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   this is what i want i don't want to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32   up getting caught up and held hostage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   the ecosystem of of one app for writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:40   because the writing is so foundationally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   important that i need to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45   switch my tools if something happens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:48   this is a thing that has paid off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:49   tremendously like the number of times i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   have switched dropbox enabled markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55   editors is large often because like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:59   just stopped being developed right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   there's a there's a change in a feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   that that bothers me and then i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   switch to something else so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   case where it's like yes for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08   that's super important i do prefer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   try to keep it simple and also swappable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:15   and it's why for example like i played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:19   around with scrivener on iOS as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   writing environment as i it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   good app like I can you know it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   like it's a great way to write I know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   lot of people really like it but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   something about being really heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   weight and like locked into their system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   which I don't like being on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   side of that equation like oh now I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   dependent on Scrivener I am not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   them as a tool to get a thing done but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:47   that is not always a possibility like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   like for example there's no version of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:53   have a bunch of text files and I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   using a writing editing app for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   animation right or video production like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:01   what at some point you have to just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   i'm going to pick the complex tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:06   I'm gonna learn and invest a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   of time in it and end up being kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11   held hostage to that tool because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   there's simply no there's simply no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   other option at certain levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16   complexity Final Cut is a good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   of that right is the perfect example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   it the previous version of Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   everybody learned professionals were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   using and an apple burned it down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   ground and rebuilt it and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:28   completely different and it was missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   a lot of functions and it made people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:31   really upset mm-hmm which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:34   coincidentally the exact time that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   transitioned to fine cuts because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   thought became useful to somebody did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   didn't know how to use it already yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   remember that very well i was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   imovie before then and then they lie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   heard all these things like all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:48   people are complaining that Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:49   was totally redone and made simpler and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   they hate it like that sounds great this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:52   sounds like the perfect time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   transition do a better tool but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57   it's like you know fast forward several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   years and it's like I'm I have mad Final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   Cut skills that I am reluctant to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:07   up right to switch over to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   like adobe premiere pro but but now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:12   like I'm also held hostage to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   development pace and tools of final cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:18   but like I said I think at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   level of complexity it's just totally is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   totally unavoidable or or even if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25   move away from software like like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:26   the YouTube thing there is a level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:30   held hostage pneus that is simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   unavoidable like if if you want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   videos that are seen by a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   people there is only one option I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:41   you like you you're going to put those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   videos up on YouTube that is that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:47   the unambiguous only serious contender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:50   today for doing that kind of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:53   so it's like well you're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   to use that tool you simply have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   other option I've been thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:01   this with people to like you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:06   hire someone hmm thinking about this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   lot recently you you start to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:13   systems with them right hmm now if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   person leaves you have to start over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   again that you're back to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   the system goes away hmm and what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:24   think about that like when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   thinking about you're you're you're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   your assistant or your animator like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:30   you've been working with these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31   especially your system for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   hmm if they went away like you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:36   have to take all that back again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:41   would not be a fun time no I mean cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   then you have to find somebody else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:44   then it's like you have to start over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   them and train them and then realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   that your assistant was doing things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:49   you don't know how to do them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:52   they're better than you you know yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55   it definitely is the case you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   think there's this is also like a scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:02   issue right that when when companies get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:06   very large I like like a company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   you worked at it's more fundamental that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   the people are more replaceable but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:14   you get down to smaller and smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15   groups I think changing out any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   individual members but has more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   of an impact right that it's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:24   when there's four people working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25   together the particulars of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   individuals are absolutely vital but any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   company that has a thousand people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:32   working together the overall structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35   and process has to be the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   matters because there's some amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   turnover that is simply unavoidable at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   every at every level it just has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44   built in the individual skills just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   out in the wash exactly so I I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:50   was kind of I was half joking when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   said I think you're asking a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:53   about civilization here but I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:54   not because I think there isn't an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   answer to this question that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   separable from what level of complexity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:03   are you working at and at certain levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:06   of complexity there is just there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:10   just a single solution of the of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   to do this like if you have three people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:15   working together there's no way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   those people not vitally important and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:21   quickly replaceable right and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   have a thousand people working together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   it's almost impossible to have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   individual who is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   irreplaceable in that system like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32   just I think it's just that like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:33   falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34   the nature of the thing and that applies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:38   to people it applies to companies it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39   applies to the tools and tasks in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   life and it applies to civilization as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45   whole yeah but I don't I know you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:50   to feel like you have a choice here Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   but I really don't think you do I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:53   is what I'm trying to get at right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   just I'm uncomfortable with the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:59   that I can't be prepared for it fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   you know that like any of these sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:05   changes like an app that I use a lot or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   a web service that I really use or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   person that any of those things going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:15   away or changing fundamentally I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:19   be prepared for it like it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   gonna be like we go back to the Stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:24   Age and we have to start civilization up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:28   again you know and I'm uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   about that feeling there was just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   bunch of things in my life right now my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   working life where this is starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   come to a head and it's in hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41   someone then thinking about building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   systems and realizing how sweet a life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   it's going to be when the stuff I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46   have to do any more but then thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:49   about what about the day if I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   take them back again right and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   don't know I got rid of these tasks not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:55   boomerang tasks yeah and then also an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:59   application that is super important for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:02   me to continue using a device that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   like at risk of going away or being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:07   changed so significantly let it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:11   less useful again and then moving me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:14   back to a platform that I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17   use as much mmm and I'm just there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   just these different strands in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   or I like I have no control and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:26   like that makes it a hard place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:30   everybody that's what's out comes out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   with Mike you know but I really do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   this is this is like a side effect of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   where you are and where you are with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42   your business that is the like I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:46   here to which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:47   is the like you're big enough to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   working with a bunch of people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   you're not so big that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   processes that totally insulate you from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56   the effect of those people leaving right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   and it's like well that's just a side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   effect of having a number of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03   you're working with that isn't like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04   hundred or a thousand people that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   working with I think there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:07   around that but really that the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   thing is it's there it's like a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11   that I'm thinking about but my biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   concern right now is work flow right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   that is my number one concern right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18   is that application and it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21   it's also just been bouncing on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   things I've also been thinking about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26   I'm like as I am becoming more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   of a programmer and looking at these web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:31   automation tools mm-hmm like these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   all closed systems owned by a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   mm-hmm that could all just go away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39   you know like I'm starting to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   every one of these services that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   using now stuff like toggle and zappia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   I'm like please let me pay only starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:51   to bring on these services now if I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   pay for them yeah I honestly think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   is it that is a really great criteria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   and I feel the exact same way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:01   actually a thing that I always had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:05   little draft email to send to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   workflow team that I never quite got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08   around to sending but it was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   an email saying please turn this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:13   into a subscription service so I can pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14   you on a regular basis right like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   the reason is is because if you can pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19   someone on a regular basis it means they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20   have a business model right their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   business model is to receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:23   subscription money there's incentive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   to continue the business going yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   if their business model is we're free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   just common users and we'll build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   large user base the only thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   can do with that ultimately is sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   company exactly because it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   difficult to make enough money at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:43   company that scale in just advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:46   unless you're like Facebook none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   these services are gonna be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52   facebook so the most likely thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   that they even sell their app for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   dollars one time or they are free and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3176">TS</a>]

00:53:00   that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:01   they're probably just gonna get bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   by somebody else because it's the exit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:05   yeah and and the four dollar app is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   the thing that that just has a timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10   on it it's like you can't you can't out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   run this fuse forever that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   concern with workflow is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   continued to develop the app so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   ferociously right there was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:22   development it's like how did my four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   dollars that i gave you two and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   years ago yep still pay for magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29   variables yep yep that was that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32   thought as well that's why I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   little draft email in there like please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   let this be a subscription and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   definitely harassed other developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   about this exact same thing where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   it's a tool that I deeply rely upon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:46   like please turn this into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47   subscription service I just I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:50   pay on a regular basis because then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   can feel like our incentives are aligned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55   like you provide continual value to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:59   and I provide continual value to you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   we're both happy like nobody has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   nervous here but I completely agree like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   services that are free I'm very cautious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:11   of investing highly in them because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:15   just you just know like our incentives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   are not on the same page here or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   may be related but we're not pointing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   the exact same arrow I don't really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25   a sense for what's going to happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   workflow I mean the idea that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:32   going to absorb the team and create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   their own engine there are was low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   engine to better link applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   together is great it falls in line with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   our campaign platform of automation in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   every app and whereas of course I forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   about that right so that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:45   amazing but it's the unknown that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:50   don't like you know yeah cuz I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:55   know what to do do you do you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   plan I mean look ever since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00   acquisition has happened every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   open up workflow I feel like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   investing in the thing that's doll I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   know right like I wish I wanted to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   any workflow yesterday I'm like is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   any point this part of my grieving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   process right I can't like is there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14   walking in it in a deprecated language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   now yeah that's that's exactly what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:19   what it feels like is there's a funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:23   thing which I think some people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:24   taken the the fact that Apple made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   workflow app free as a positive sign I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29   don't feel that way at all I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   that's their only move to minimize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:36   disgruntled pneus because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   complain if they take away something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:40   that's free later and it's the wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:44   them to leave it up on the store for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47   people who still use it's a better sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   than them removing it from sale which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   also a big possibility I mean removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55   it from the store I honestly don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58   that is a that would be a realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   option for Apple to have done I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   it before I know that they have done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   before but I think they have they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   not done it force like a comparable tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:10   right like I really do think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13   workflow is at a different level for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16   this and so I think if they had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   removed it from the store I would view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   that as it I don't think that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   genuine option and so then the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   thing to do is to make it free which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   feels like don't complain about it later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   if you started using workflow and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   paid for it and we took it away right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   like that's I swear to God I would feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:36   much better if they kept charging for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   it's like leave it up but that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   have been way better right cuz then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   nothing changed yeah right and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   could also feel like you are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   planning on burning the good will of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:52   people who bought your app anytime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53   right like that's that's the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   would feel but free to me feels like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   stay of execution until it disappears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:01   that's that's the way free feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:02   and yeah it does completely change my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:06   feeling when I open up the app of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   man I have invested so many hours in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   this like I have built so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   that are so incredibly useful and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:17   in the middle of reworking a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   the workflows that I had made using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3439">TS</a>]

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00:57:28   like oh why bother right like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31   just I'm just waiting for the end I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:34   just waiting for the end now like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:35   to be optimistic but I'm finding it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   difficult to be optimistic about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:38   future of this he was supposed to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:42   me when he what do you mean like I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:46   wanted you to tell me it was all gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   be okay you know no I mean I am I am on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:53   the side that even the best case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   scenario is still not a scenario that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   like but yeah yeah the best case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:01   scenario is work flow like stays as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:06   is and it just becomes absorbed in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   of the Apple development world but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   that still means workflow which like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13   said was being developed at a ferocious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   pace now gets tied into some internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:19   Apple release schedule that depends on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22   whole bunch of other things and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:26   know that now it's just like okay here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   is another thing that we are at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:32   mercy of right it's like going back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   what I'm saying before one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   reasons i really like workflow is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   feels like oh look here are all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   advances in iOS that haven't happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:43   the past two years like there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:46   one tool that i can point to which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:49   moving things forward continually in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:52   useful way like on an operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   that for ipads has not been moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   forward in a useful way in two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   right and so it's like okay you acquired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:03   this thing is this gonna get sucked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:06   your cycle now so that like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   delays you're dealing with internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   affect everything on the platform i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:14   a hard time seeing that as like a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:15   option like I really viewed workflow as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:19   so beneficial precisely because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:25   wasn't connected to Apple like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   thing that was separate that was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3567">TS</a>]

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00:59:34   there has been great stagnation so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:38   have no comforting words for you Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3578">TS</a>]

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01:02:01   the last few months who being concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:05   and or frustrated with my ecosystem of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:09   choice Lou [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   and I don't really know what to do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:15   that I mean I'm I'm there with you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:18   find it particularly interesting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:21   i feel like i have i've followed apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23   news for a long time it's a company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   i've always been very interested in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   i have in conversations almost always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30   found myself on the side of when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:33   are down on apple feeling like oh you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:36   expecting too much like you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38   expecting magic unicorn stuff all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41   time like an I think you're it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   unreasonable but I feel like in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   two years I am at the absolute nadir of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:50   my feelings towards this company in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:54   way that I never expected to be and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3774">TS</a>]

01:03:00   just interesting to find myself like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:01   switched to that greatly against my will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:06   and and yet it's the same thing it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:09   deeply concerning because this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12   foundation upon which everything else in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:16   my working life rests and I was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:19   trying to think this morning I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   walking around as try think like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   could be more disruptive in my life than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:26   switching operating systems and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:29   there is literally nothing that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   more disrupting than that like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   thinking would moving to China and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   having to learn Mandarin be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:39   disruptive than switching operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3819">TS</a>]

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01:03:44   no like that would be moving to China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   would be less disruptive to my life than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49   switching operating systems alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3829">TS</a>]

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01:03:56   follow where you're going with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   because like if you moved to China it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3837">TS</a>]

01:04:01   would make less of a disruption to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3841">TS</a>]

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01:04:27   life less than then switching to windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3867">TS</a>]

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01:05:32   I'm there is a space for me to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   dual monitor computer set up in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37   working life I was realizing like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:41   would I go about doing this like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:42   what is the solution for I want a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   powerful computer that I want to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47   to attach two screens too it's like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50   have to buy a laptop that I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:54   leave in clamshell mode all the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   i'm going to buy these two frankly super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3956">TS</a>]

01:06:01   chintzy feeling monitors from LG like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04   this is it this is a comical solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   this problem it's like this this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   is no good or relatedly my wife has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12   using one of my iPad pros for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   and this has been that like the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:18   creeping delay because her use of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:22   smaller iPad pro has has affected my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:24   like distribution of where I do work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:27   I have been thinking for months like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30   this is just a temporary thing I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31   going to wait until the next revision of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   the iPads and then I'm going to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   readjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:36   but but now it's like here we are after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39   this was expected and it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   I've been delaying for several months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44   about what I'm going to do with iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:47   pros and now now what again like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:54   feels like it's a bad situation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   everybody across all of the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4016">TS</a>]

01:07:00   we're expecting there to be an iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   so much in the last episode I very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:06   confidently said that I would be making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   a video about the next iPad pro yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   like with in April because just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:13   tradition you know traditions that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   been set by Apple for many years they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   tend to have a cycle with their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   and the cycle shift but they tend to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   relatively predictable and Apple release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:24   some products via press release and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   they released was incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:27   unpredictable mmm a red version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:30   iphone their current iphone and a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:34   ipad which was a revision in the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:38   air line the regular line but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:41   cheaper ipad it's it's a great ipad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   the ipad product line itself hmm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:48   cheaper ipad can go into more schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   people can buy it's good for the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:51   mmm but it lends itself to an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:56   recently that if you are a user of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   Apple's products and you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00   professional it is you are feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:04   increasingly like the company cares less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   and less about you yeah it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:09   do you have an iPhone yeah if the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11   is yes then we care outside of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14   you're on your own yeah I would say even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:18   the iphone stuff well yeah we had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20   conversation last time where we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   disagreement about you know the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   disappointing iphone ever as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   iphone 7 I think this is it is also an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29   interesting indications like three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:30   of essentially the same design it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:34   and it looks like very likely who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   going to be sort of four years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:37   essentially the same design maybe well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:40   there's an asterisk to that right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   there is an asterisk to that but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   still feel like even the iphone thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:50   doesn't come as a unadulterated pure win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:54   and the other thing that I do just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:58   to say here as just to be clear it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:01   it's not only just a setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:04   expectations for ourselves I'll just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:08   like in vague ways what I hear from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:11   people who know is that it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:14   consistently slipping and missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:17   deadlines like it sounds like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   some kind of problem almost within Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:24   about getting stuff done in a in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   that I find confusing and concerning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:32   this is this is why I like I really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   thinking like what could possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:35   more disruptive than this and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37   Oh almost almost nothing you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:42   it's is not that the tools that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:43   using now are bad it's not that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:46   things don't work but it's just it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   concern about how are these things going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:52   in the future like is this something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   that we can continue to rely on or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:57   not something that we continue to rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:58   on and the workflow acquisition is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:02   a microcosm of this this bigger question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:06   and because of the way Apple works like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:09   you just you just don't know like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   have no idea what they're up to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14   they're doing but that strategy only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   works when it's combined with also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18   producing things that people like on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:22   somewhat regular basis ya like like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   secrecy strategy starts eating itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   when you go you know three years without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:30   an update to your professional computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   like that then then the secrecy thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   starts eating its own tail and you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   real trouble so I don't know like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   like what are your thoughts on this Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   it was easy for me to make jokes when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:48   the max were not getting updated loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   because i was using the ipad we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:54   there and it we're all there it was fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   for me to make jokes because i assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:59   that my product line would get its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:02   but my product line didn't get his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:03   update and I mean I you know I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:07   make jokes at the expense of my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   that really care about the mac but i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10   care about it as well right hmm because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13   I'm sitting right front one right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   and I don't want to change hmm I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:22   know I've been an Apple user for over 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:25   years like this is what I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   how to use this stuff and I'm a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:30   the company but ultimately I am a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:34   technology yeah and it is just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:37   that over the last 10 years in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:40   opinion the best technology came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:43   Apple but then I look at something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:47   the samsung galaxy s 8 mm-hmm and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:52   is exactly what I want from a fun mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:55   that looks like what I want that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4315">TS</a>]

01:12:01   like the phone that we are dreaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   about apple releasing in September and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:08   as someone who has been a devout fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:12   the iphone 4 10 years that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:15   something i expected to say that samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18   i believe are probably making the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:23   phone available right now and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:26   argument that they did it with the note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:29   but the note exploded so it kind of took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31   it out of the running now you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:34   easy to make jokes about that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   Samsung's bad management on misfortune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40   but let's just assume that they fix this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   problem and this will not happen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   galaxy SI hmm that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:47   incredible-looking fun oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:50   everything about it the software the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   design like the all at the design that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54   they've done with Samsung has had really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   poor interface design in the past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:59   all of the walkthroughs that I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   since stunning like it just looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   incredible all of it yeah it really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:06   that's what I want I want that phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:09   want that phone but I want it to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12   iphone yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:15   like this is like a similar thing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   similar thing is like the Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   Surface studio yeah that came out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   book about that I that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   totally a moment of like am i living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   bizarro land this this should be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:28   computer that apple is releasing but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:31   isn't right this this is the thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:34   just it's it's deeply concerning to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:39   see this stuff and to see Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:41   consistently fail to ship or or to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:45   sell stuff that is old like in and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:49   not talking about like 10 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   right but in technology land the months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:54   are exponential yet like this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   how this counts it's like if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58   everything is 18 months old when it's 19 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:01   months old it's twice as old as it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   month ago like this this is how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   actually works in technology lands like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:06   you can't count these things linearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   and just like other companies move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   and so yeah it's it's just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:13   concerning across all product lines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:17   I know is that or even just like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20   seen I mean I really can't think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:23   single area with maybe the exception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:28   the watch where it's like this there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30   not really concerns like you know seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   demonstrations of Alta versus Siri right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   or see sitting like I watched a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   this morning of androids auto right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:41   versus apples car play and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:44   like it was just embarrassing to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:47   Apple version of this and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:50   making me think like last year when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:51   were when we were in San Francisco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   we were walking around all of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:55   those companies and we had that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:56   conversation but like what are all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:57   these people doing I really have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4497">TS</a>]

01:15:00   same feeling of Apple like where are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:03   of your resources going like I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:06   don't understand like are they all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:09   into the apple TV and media deals like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:12   oh nope doesn't look like they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:13   there are they all going into iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   software updates it's like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   couldn't get stickers you're headlining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   feature to work on all three platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22   in a consistent way a year later so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   doesn't seem like they're going they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:27   is all of your time and attention going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:30   Apple like it's I find it confusing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   concerning so here's my feeling about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   where I am with this right now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   like two months to three months away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   from apples developer conference where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:42   they will show what iOS 11 is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   look like for where I'm feeling right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:47   now this all rides on that hey if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:52   show me what I wanna see right which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:56   like big advancements especially to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:58   ipad but just like big advancements in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   iOS to the consumer as well as to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:03   developer then I will be willing to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:07   write the year off mm-hmm they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:10   have just had a bad year right and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:12   is the thing we'll never know I me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:13   because they don't talk about it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:14   like you know Apple can fix a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17   this stuff by saying hey look we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20   working on a new mac pro we're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22   on your iPad pros they're coming this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   year hmm but we should we couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   them out in 2016 because of x y&z right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   you know now that would that would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:32   she ate a lot of Apple fans in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:35   that they feel but they won't do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:36   wait if they can stand on stage in June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39   and show me something that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42   awesome then I can be like all right Eva [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   everyone was working on this or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   just struggled or whatever hmm but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:50   there's a reason you know like that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:53   like they're doing something that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   right there showing me that they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   got it you know but like if we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:00   something like stickers again i mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:04   i love the stickers but it wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   massive technological achievement mm-hm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   right but like I message apps was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   the big consumer feature of the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:13   version of iOS and if that's what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:16   again I'd be like what happened in 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:20   like what were you doing and if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22   the case I don't know what I'm gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24   great but like I know that I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:25   start thinking about things differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   like one of the big problems that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:30   that I'm used to make a cohesive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   ecosystem mmm all of my products all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:35   talk to each other they understand each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:38   other there are two different operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   systems but they're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41   by one company so they're similar there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   isn't anything like that outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:46   Apple I'm going to use a windows phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:49   don't think so or i'm going to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:50   Chromebook ain't happening so what am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:53   going to go to windows and Android I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:55   don't want to do that so like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:58   like I may be a bit of a loss right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   but maybe what I end up just doing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   just adjust my expectations mmm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:05   my expectations will be adjusted by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:07   end of 2017 and that maybe instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:11   just thinking like I'm always going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:12   buy the next Apple product I just adjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14   it to maybe I just buy whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   technology and trust me the most mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   I have a little bit of a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:21   feeling about WWDC and whenever the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:26   Apple event is going to be like I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:29   be happy and excited if Apple releases a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:33   bunch of stuff that I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:34   obviously so if there's a bit if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:37   a big iOS update where there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   bunch of stuff that I would want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:40   competent multitasking switch or perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   right you know just like amazing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:45   that's great I'll be really happy but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:47   feel like there's a real fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:50   doubt that has been placed into my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:53   that will not be able to be dislodged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:57   until I see semi regular updates again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4737">TS</a>]

01:19:01   all right and it's it's a thing that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:04   become like a little like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:05   thought of poison with all the tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:07   just just like with the workflow you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:09   open up workflow and you feel like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:10   long is this going to be around and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:13   if Apple hasn't like a bunch of amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   releases I'm gonna feel in the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18   my mind this this doubt of like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:21   this new iPad pro this is amazing M is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:25   this that is this the ipad pro for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27   next two years if I can live with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:30   if that's my expectation I mean a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:34   my concerns right now just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   they're not working at the pace I'm used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:39   to and they're not releasing products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:41   that the pay some used to but if it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   up being the ipad pro is come every two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   years well that's just how I work both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:48   of my iPad pros work completely fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   right now yeah I'm able to get my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   done on them every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:53   but my concern is will it be another two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:56   years because in another two years I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   definitely not gonna be able to get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4798">TS</a>]

01:19:59   work done on them as well like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   need to for me I need to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:03   expectations reset again that's all yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:07   that but this is this this is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   what I me like I need to see some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   of sustained effort like it I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:17   difference between iOS 9 and iOS 10 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:21   like a real sort of shock like oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:24   have all these great features for iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   and it's like oh and now there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   because then we're expecting something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   for the ipad in the spring software was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:33   didn't come and I'm just gonna again I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:36   just gonna add to that like we had very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:37   good reason to expect that and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:40   something happened like what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42   some kind of failure to execute on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44   inside like this seems concerning like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   this seems very concerning so yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:49   it's just I don't know I feel like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51   will need to Apple release cycles to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:56   feel good about it again and I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4856">TS</a>]

01:21:01   even found myself like I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:02   believe I was doing this the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:04   weekend of us like I guess I guess here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:05   I am I spent a whole weekend learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:08   adobe premiere pro from the ground up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:11   just just because it's like even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13   final cut like I have this little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15   a feeling of like how much time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:16   attention is this going to get in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   future of Apple land like a lot like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:22   don't know I don't know if it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24   get a lot of attention like maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:26   should just check out what this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:28   thing is so I have some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30   anticipatory sense of if I do need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33   the thing which is to turn it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:34   microsoft surface studio into my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:38   production machine like I have an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:41   of what that is ahead of time it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44   I can't I can't believe I'm sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:45   learning adobe premiere pro but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:47   this is this is what I'm doing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   I'm going to feel a little bit better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   I have just like stuck at 0 into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:54   water in advance and yeah and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:58   where we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4918">TS</a>]

01:21:59   feel like I've spent so much time over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   the last couple of months talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:05   this mmm it is the it's the talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:10   point of the time in and amongst people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:13   that care about a poor this deep level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:16   mm-hm and I find myself frustrated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:19   I even talk about this because I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:22   it's frustrating to listen to if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:25   feel the way that we do because what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:28   don't want is people telling you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   your fears are justified in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:33   that a moment ago you couldn't tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:34   that I didn't have to worry about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36   systems being broken like so I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:39   but like what are you gonna do I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   gonna say sit here and say it's all fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:44   like I'm not going to be that dog in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:45   fire with the mug right because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:48   fine like if this is something you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:52   about right now this is not what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:56   should be and it's a case of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4976">TS</a>]

01:23:00   there's a couple of outcomes of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:02   one of them is just resetting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04   expectations but I'm willing to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06   that but all I know is right now my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:10   wishes aren't met my expectations aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:13   met right we're way past at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:16   that the magic that Apple can produce as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   he was saying right like people getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20   annoyed because a feature that shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:22   exist it wasn't launched like or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:25   people getting annoyed that Apple didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:27   jump every single company by four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:30   every year right like that sort of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   that's not met I mean every now and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34   they do something right which is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:36   people feel that way about them but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:38   sort of stuff I can take or leave hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:41   but it's at the point where it's just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   you say like what seems to be just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:46   inability to release new versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:50   their existing product lines yeah in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   way that actually make the existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:54   customers satisfied that's a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56   yeah you know the point where I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   looking at this samsung phone and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   like I know how difficult would it be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:03   mean the answer is very difficult right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:05   to get up and move but then at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:08   time I'm like what you're taking away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   one of my favorite apps you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12   you're taking away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:13   from me potentially one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:14   applications that keeps me on iOS so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:18   what am I gonna do one way or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   like that the very best iOS app in years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:25   you know is going away in some form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:31   probably again trying to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:34   branching paths of this yeah it does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37   doesn't look super great and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:38   like okay well even if you just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:42   let workflow linger around for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:46   like even that is quite disruptive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:50   you're lowering the bar to other kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   of transitions anyway but yeah i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:55   with you on this like I was watching MK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:57   Bhd's video on the this samsung phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5097">TS</a>]

01:25:00   I'm like that's an amazing looking phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:02   you know the software doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   terrible on it as I guess I guess this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06   is where we are you know are like seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:09   the thing with the Microsoft studio like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:10   boy that looks that looks fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12   again I'm also willing to we get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15   way to September mmm right an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:18   unveil this this unicorn iphone which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20   looks like this one but has whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23   has that that makes apple fans say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:25   it's better right like whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:26   that we believe that makes it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:28   than everything else and also may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   releasing some dis dis this amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:33   sounding new iPad that they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:34   working on and then I go it's fine mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:38   could you did it I had to wait too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:41   I had to get a version of the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:43   that I was unimpressed with ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:46   and I had to wait for too long in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:49   opinion from my ipad to be updated but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:51   you've given me what I wanted which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:54   proves to me you can still do it and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:55   I'll just assume I have to wait two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:57   years yes ultimately I would take what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5157">TS</a>]

01:26:02   they give me because I really don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:05   to have to move to China yeah right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:08   because I really don't want to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:11   get up and move away because of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:13   disruptive it will be hmm but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:16   like we're we're gonna have a bargain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:18   here come on Tim right like oh I'll keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:22   doing this but you just need to throw me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24   a bone once every two years it's all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26   ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:27   extra frustrating when I feel like I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28   I am your ideal customer like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:31   will I will spend this money just let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   know what's what's going on even if at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:36   the next event Apple releases westworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:41   style sex bots and butlers for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:44   and their free right he's like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:47   is what we've been working on artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:50   intelligence indistinguishable from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:52   humans I'll be like that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:54   impressive I see where all the resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:55   of gone but there's still going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57   something in the back of my mind that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:58   like okay but how long until their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00   software is updated right like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:02   I'm gonna need to see some regular cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:05   of improvement before I feel completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:11   better even if I get something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13   absolutely amazing in the future I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:16   gonna need a little bit more to to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:18   better about this situation yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:19   what you gonna do nothing nothing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:22   gonna there's nothing I can do right I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   gonna talk sadly into a microphone in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:28   office that's that's what I'm gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:29   how you doing over there buddy I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:33   annoys me I can't help myself with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:35   yeah it annoys me that we do this topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:38   but it's it's like I feel like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:40   kind of avoided this this topic on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:43   show but at some at some point it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   becomes unavoidable right if it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47   a thing that you're just talking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:50   so it was it was eventual that we had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:52   have this conversation and now we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:54   it and now we will wait but grey I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5274">TS</a>]

01:28:02   want to end such a sum one note okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:05   because you know there is much there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:08   much good going on with it there is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:10   beauty in the world Mike like is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:12   what you're trying to tell me here go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:14   out and smell the flowers I mean on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   of the great things that exists in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:19   world today is this show of course this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21   very podcast called cortex and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:24   episode 49 next time is episode 50 mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:28   now because of our very erratic release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:32   schedule we haven't really celebrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:34   much in the way of anniversaries for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:38   this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:39   you know we didn't celebrate our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:41   birthday we probably wouldn't celebrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   our second but we have a milestone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:46   episode just around the corner so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:50   would like to ask our listeners to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:54   a little bit of participation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:55   episode 50 and I have a few a few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5335">TS</a>]

01:29:00   that I would like to throw out to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:01   that they could maybe give me some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   thought mmm one thing is there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:06   people that go back and listen to old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:08   episodes and every now and then I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   tweets and messages from people who find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:13   something that Mia you said particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:15   funny or ironic based upon how latter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:18   conversations would unfurl mm-hmm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:22   like as me and you have changed in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:25   course of working some things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:27   said in Episode one or two seem a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29   ridiculous so I would like to know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:32   you have listened to this show and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:34   find something to be a bit off now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:37   considering what you know about us now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:39   in 2017 I would like to know about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:42   so we could talk about them next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   basically how did past us look dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:47   compared to current us what a great way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   to put it so future us can laugh Oh what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:53   like what like categoric claims did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:56   make that have turned out to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:59   silly no also I'm i am also interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:03   in knowing what you have learned or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:09   changed because of the show this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:12   another thread that we see every now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:14   then where people talk about some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:16   that they do differently mmm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:19   listened to me and you talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:20   way that we work so there's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22   couple of things that if you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:23   thoughts to let me know and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25   tweet at me I'm I Mike on twitter by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:28   way i am y ke if you would like to tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:31   at me I'll be very interested in that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33   you could participate in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35   subreddit over in the cortex subreddit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   or like maybe the put the thread for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:39   this episode just let me know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:42   things and we can maybe talk tough on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:43   them next time I think it might be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:45   interesting time to look back on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:47   that our working lives have changed over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:49   the last couple of years of doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:50   show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:51   and that might be a fun way to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:52   sound good help us celebrate I mean I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:55   guess we did it we did have a cortex of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:58   versuri at one point did we but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:00   that kind of was sprung on us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:02   accidentally where I think during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04   recording of the show I realized that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:05   were a year old okay but this is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:09   real planned celebration I promise it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:11   won't be a clip show I would not let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:16   Mike do it clear i hate clip shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5476">TS</a>]

01:31:19   unless unless it was a phenomenal offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:22   on the table right i mean ok so i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   let me take that back immediately I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:25   would let Mike do a clip show but almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:28   certainly this will not be a clip show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:29   it one of the problems of being in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:34   world where we can binge watch TV shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:36   mmm clip shows stand out now in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:39   because you're like I watched that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:43   episode like yesterday when you show me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:46   a clip about it as if it was five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48   ago when we were washing through friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   I know it's that abundantly they loved a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:53   clip show how did they never a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:55   friends really yeah interesting not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5515">TS</a>]

01:31:59   me no thank you great doesn't believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:03   friends sorry um the whole contract yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:09   the conceit of your show these friends I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:12   don't buy it no one no nobody would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:15   this hang out in people's houses all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:16   wanna be around people and I buy it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:19   so anyway no cortex clip show no but let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:25   us know where we were dumb let us know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:27   anything that has changed in your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:28   over the course of listening to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBl1X-Ps/5548">TS</a>]