The Incomparable

347: I Tore My Pants


  the incomparable number 347 April 2017 [TS]

  welcome back everybody to the [TS]

  incomparable i'm your host Jason snow [TS]

  this is one of those ridiculous episodes [TS]

  where we draft things what we're [TS]

  drafting this time is Star Trek episodes [TS]

  so any Star Trek series is eligible but [TS]

  it has to be a TV series no movies [TS]

  movies cannot be drafted and the only [TS]

  other rule that I've given my panelists [TS]

  is that episodes labeled as part 1 and [TS]

  part 2 can be considered a hole for the [TS]

  purposes of this but if there isn't a [TS]

  label you can't consent you can't draft [TS]

  like the whole you know last season of [TS]

  deep space nine not allowed not allowed [TS]

  joining me to draft things because I [TS]

  love it so much are the following people [TS]

  David jail or hello hi I'm starting with [TS]

  the magics of mega stew yeah that's good [TS]

  i mean animated series episodes their [TS]

  land right out there get that gadget [TS]

  don't get the jihad in there no one's [TS]

  gonna snake those no definitely not [TS]

  justin michael is here as well hi Justin [TS]

  ah I tomar I pants yeah you tore your [TS]

  pants hey I got some in real trouble now [TS]

  no one No well we'll get to that okay [TS]

  reference not acknowledged but we'll get [TS]

  to it aleem Simms is here hello hello I [TS]

  want for the record to say that I called [TS]

  all of my episodes on Twitter earlier so [TS]

  nobody can take them I already called it [TS]

  i think not allowed but very well ah [TS]

  yeah you know who isn't here Joe [TS]

  rosenstiel was supposed to be here but [TS]

  sadly he's not in Dan Warren also sadly [TS]

  not here but you know sometimes in [TS]

  fantasy sports drafts you set up the [TS]

  computer to auto pick for you and indeed [TS]

  those fellows will be Auto picking as we [TS]

  go followed by of course last but not [TS]

  least at all the host of random Trek on [TS]

  this very podcast network of Scott [TS]

  McNulty hi Scott hello I don't think I'm [TS]

  actually last though and of course I [TS]

  will pick last because that's a thing I [TS]

  do as your gracious host so that order [TS]

  in which you heard people David Justin [TS]

  alene Joe and Dan robo picking Scott and [TS]

  then me is the order of this draft I [TS]

  don't like these robo pickings going [TS]

  before me I say people before robots [TS]

  fair point they are now [TS]

  me in the order how about that there you [TS]

  go Scott see i like i like away I like [TS]

  the cut of your jib mr. I like the way [TS]

  you think another win for McNulty that's [TS]

  right well let's we'll we'll go a few [TS]

  rounds and pick some great Star Trek [TS]

  episodes and we're going to begin the [TS]

  first round with David jail or who [TS] has selected to pick first uh [TS]

  go ahead David why is your choice well [TS]

  I'm kind of stunned that I get to go [TS]

  first i picked like all these extra this [TS]

  huge list just in case but i am going to [TS]

  go with my very favorite episode of any [TS]

  Star Trek so far the visitor from deep [TS]

  space 9 it's just a wonderful meditation [TS]

  on family and fathers and sons it's a [TS]

  story that starts with a young woman [TS]

  coming coming to a house in the rain and [TS]

  she's she's trying to get an interview [TS]

  with this reclusive elderly reclusive [TS]

  author and it turns out to be Jake Sisko [TS]

  and he doesn't want to talk to her but [TS]

  he finally relents he lets her in [TS]

  because it's pouring rain and he starts [TS]

  to tell the story of how he lost his [TS]

  father how his father was ripped out of [TS]

  time front by you know sciency things [TS]

  particles he in many many years many [TS]

  many years ago those particles and but [TS]

  he would periodically reappear over time [TS]

  and every few years he would you would [TS]

  be there they couldn't they couldn't [TS]

  communicate with him but you know he's [TS]

  sort of haunting them a little bit [TS]

  uh-huh and and it is a wonderful story [TS]

  about writing it's a wonderful story [TS]

  about the bond between a father and a [TS]

  son and it's it's just a lovey a lovey [TS]

  resolution to it too because of course [TS]

  of course they saved Jacob they save Ben [TS]

  Sisko and that future does not happen [TS]

  but it's it's just it the first time I [TS]

  thought of it you know it's like Oh what [TS]

  are your favorite episodes oh well city [TS]

  on the edge of forever everyone picks [TS]

  city on the edge of forever and I went [TS]

  you know actually I think it's the [TS]

  visitor now it just it hit me right dead [TS]

  center in the chest which a lot of shows [TS]

  do not Deep Space nine Episode first off [TS]

  the board that is [TS]

  amazing and Dan didn't even have to be [TS]

  here hmm suck it will be Lauren it's a [TS]

  good episode I'm not going to deny it [TS]

  it's a good episode of course in the end [TS]

  wacky time high jinks make it not ever [TS]

  happen have happened well that is the [TS]

  problem that's that's kind of common in [TS]

  Trek one of my favorite things in that [TS]

  episode though is that Jake cisco's [TS]

  novel is a hardcover novel and it has [TS]

  like a little hologram on the cover [TS]

  because it's a book from the future [TS]

  that's right still a paper book but it's [TS]

  got a holographic cover so you know it's [TS]

  from space and it is Tony Todd as [TS]

  elderly Jake Sisko yeah which is lovely [TS]

  casting so when episode of deep space 9 [TS]

  that features almost none of the actual [TS]

  cast of the show interesting Justin [TS]

  what's your choice I'm gonna surprise [TS]

  everyone with another Deep Space nine [TS]

  Episode oh I know I know and I've got to [TS]

  go within the pale moonlight the episode [TS]

  yeah episode in which crossing yeah like [TS]

  he might have had an inside track I [TS]

  don't know Robo Dan and Robo Joe both [TS]

  cry out it's as if to Robo voices have [TS]

  been silenced it's such an incredible [TS]

  episode you've got Garrick in it which [TS]

  Garrick oh I love me some Garrick and [TS]

  you got Cisco with battling has morals [TS]

  throughout the entire thing that the way [TS]

  they tell the story through his [TS]

  captain's log oh so so good and and the [TS]

  the writing just spot on that line [TS]

  toward the end where garrix you know [TS]

  telling him like you know you just you [TS]

  basically just turned the tide of the [TS]

  war and all the cost was you know the [TS]

  the life of one criminal one Romulan [TS]

  senator and the self-respect of one [TS]

  federation captain that sounds like a [TS]

  bargain to me so good yeah I think [TS]

  that's the one that's the episode that [TS]

  comes up all the time as the classic [TS]

  Deep Space nine Episode that that you [TS]

  need to know the whole story for it to [TS]

  get the weight but that's the one where [TS]

  it all comes comes comes to a head so it [TS]

  was it was number one on Joe's list and [TS]

  Dan's list by the way I'm just I'm not [TS]

  kidding it it was number two on mine [TS]

  and it has maybe my very favorite last [TS]

  moment in deep space 9 where you know [TS]

  the whole thing is cisco telling us in [TS]

  flashback as a log entry and the very [TS]

  last moment he just says computer delete [TS]

  log and kind of looks at the camera they [TS]

  just do that they just did no although [TS]

  that does speak to once again a shocking [TS]

  lack of security in stock because why [TS]

  are you gonna tell this entire story to [TS]

  your log and then not even securely [TS]

  delete it you just normally delete it [TS]

  that could be recovered from the [TS]

  computer it's not good says computers do [TS]

  not spy on us and are not tools of [TS]

  espionage that's crazy talk especially [TS]

  not if it's a Cardassian built-in [TS]

  computer yeah you're speaking out loud [TS]

  in an office that could be bugged or [TS]

  yeah mozhet did what were you saying cat [TS]

  the next the next day that knock on [TS]

  cisco's door and it's like what we wait [TS]

  we heard your luggage come with us you [TS]

  have a few questions about this deleted [TS]

  log entry and I said delete it oh [TS]

  nothing gets deleted in Starfy plate Ben [TS]

  you should have known that um aleem [TS]

  what's your choice alright I am going [TS]

  with the next generation the inner light [TS]

  oh yeah so this is my number one [TS]

  all-time favorite Star Trek episode it's [TS]

  um after school when I was growing up I [TS]

  would come home and they had like these [TS]

  four hours of Star Trek blocks of the [TS]

  next generation blocks and every time [TS]

  this came on I stopped everything [TS]

  dropped everything I was doing so [TS]

  basically the plot is an alien probe [TS]

  causes Picard to live a different life [TS]

  time in a matter of minutes he lives an [TS]

  entire lifetime and he he is married he [TS]

  has kids and he puts on sunscreen don't [TS]

  forget that son sunscreen he likes to [TS]

  play the flute who wears a hat the Hat [TS]

  the planet is destroyed because of [TS]

  climate change its kind of weird but I [TS]

  love the episode and it doesn't hurt [TS]

  that the clothes [TS]

  just that I've ever heard my name on TV [TS]

  is in this episode because his um his [TS]

  wife's name and as he's going through [TS]

  this kind of brain life is as Eileen I [TS]

  think is how they say and um and so I [TS]

  pick inner light okay everybody get out [TS]

  your flutes it's time to play and cry oh [TS]

  I got up my pen and crossed it off my [TS]

  list yes I was so get your portable [TS]

  pianos oh also also note another episode [TS]

  three episodes if our two of which have [TS]

  mostly not featured the regular cast [TS]

  that's true that's now I love the inner [TS]

  light although having watched recently [TS]

  for a random Trek it does occur to me [TS]

  that this is a horrific event in Captain [TS]

  Picard's life yeah he lives this whole [TS]

  life it loses all these people and he's [TS]

  just fine at the end of it it's like [TS]

  everybody's cool no no no he warns it [TS]

  throughout he picks up that flute and he [TS]

  he grabs the flute and you definitely [TS]

  looks out the window and the sixth [TS]

  episode every smiling at my headcanon [TS]

  you know Troy gave him a like a like a [TS]

  mental block or something after that [TS]

  just like she just came in to forget you [TS]

  know that's totally valid for people [TS]

  with telepathic powers to just say [TS]

  forget to their captain every now and [TS]

  then if they're bumming out alright [TS]

  that's a great one Ally and that was on [TS]

  my list and I have now cross it out so [TS]

  take that me Scott what's your choice [TS]

  well I am surprised or maybe I'm not [TS]

  surprised that it has gotten to me and [TS]

  there have been no original series [TS]

  episodes chosen and I know that Jason is [TS]

  next and he will probably be picking at [TS]

  original series episode you may not but [TS]

  i will pick an episode that's already [TS]

  been mentioned but not picked the city [TS]

  on the edge of forever ah yep which is [TS]

  mean it's a cliche to pick it and call [TS]

  it the best Star Trek episode ever but [TS]

  guess what it is the best Star Trek [TS]

  episode ever and that's why it is a [TS]

  cliche it is also another one of these [TS]

  episodes that is doesn't take place on [TS]

  the ship doesn't feature a lot [TS]

  the cast I mean features the main [TS]

  Trinity there except dr. McCoy is a [TS]

  little crazy pants in this heavily [TS]

  feature bit but this is Edith Keeler a [TS]

  time-travel guardian this episode is [TS]

  fantastic if you're listening to this [TS]

  episode of the incomparable and you have [TS]

  not for some reason seen the city on the [TS]

  edge of forever take out whatever device [TS]

  you're listening on press pause and go [TS]

  watch the one dude and then come back i [TS]

  endorsed that hey everybody welcome back [TS]

  wasn't that a good episode see see why I [TS]

  picked it it all makes sense now Scott [TS]

  yeah it's a great episode it is it is I [TS]

  I struggled about where to put it on my [TS]

  list mostly because it does seem so [TS]

  obvious now and I had that was my [TS]

  favorite Star Trek episode for a long [TS]

  time and I feel like it's not anymore [TS]

  mostly because of just a familiarity [TS]

  with it it was for so long and I saw in [TS]

  so many times and over the years I've [TS]

  come to appreciate other episodes in [TS]

  ways that I didn't but I think it's not [TS]

  entirely fair because it was just it i [TS]

  also own like I own the original [TS]

  screenplay I own the graphic novel of [TS]

  the adaptation of the original [TS]

  screenplay it was the it was the first [TS]

  VHS tape i bought a Star Trek yeah I [TS]

  mean it there is a facility to the [TS]

  storytelling in that that is an economy [TS]

  to it but at the same time when I watch [TS]

  it now and I can kind of go well again [TS]

  is speeding up a little bit there it's [TS]

  little you know it's still 60s TV [TS]

  storytelling it's very good 60s TV swing [TS]

  yeah there might actually be original [TS]

  series episodes I like better than that [TS]

  too and I love Harlan Ellison so yeah [TS]

  but it's certainly top five of all for [TS]

  me alright it's my turn and despite [TS]

  Scott's sureness surety sure Oh [TS]

  confidence that I would pick a TOS [TS]

  episode I am wasted on my own Picard i'm [TS]

  not i'm not i was shocked when i put [TS]

  this list together earlier today but it [TS]

  had to be done the episode though I did [TS]

  not want anyone else to pick more than [TS]

  any other was Joe Manaus keys Darmok [TS]

  from Star Trek The Next Generation which [TS]

  is my favorite Star Trek episode [TS]

  period bar none that that is that is it [TS]

  I love it I love everything about it [TS]

  Picard's got his crazy like leather [TS]

  epaulet 'add jacket that he wears in [TS]

  that one so that he has those strange [TS]

  gray shirt underneath it's like his [TS]

  version of Kirk's weird blouse that he [TS]

  wore sometimes there's a really great [TS]

  mystery with the tomariians they've got [TS]

  a powerful spaceship they speak a [TS]

  language nobody understands it's got a [TS]

  fun performance by paul winfield as who [TS]

  we all know is captain Tyrell from Star [TS]

  Trek to as the captain of the tomariians [TS]

  ship who does not understand what the [TS]

  heck of the the the humans are saying [TS]

  and they don't understand him and he's [TS]

  trying to get them to understand and [TS]

  when you watch it back having figured [TS]

  out what he's saying you can see his [TS]

  frustration like come on why don't you [TS]

  get this and the thing about it that I [TS]

  think is legitimately great is the [TS]

  concept of using metaphors to tell a [TS]

  story by the end you've intuitive what [TS]

  the metaphors are and literally if you [TS]

  just go back and watch the episode again [TS]

  now you can understand everything that [TS]

  they're saying and because the episode [TS]

  has done that to you and it's tragic the [TS]

  captain Dave on dies Picard can't save [TS]

  him because they're trying to rescue him [TS]

  the enterprise's in peril so there's [TS]

  some excitement in the two there were [TS]

  the quiet moments by the campfire his [TS]

  possessions and like the inner light [TS]

  which has that sad moment at the very [TS]

  end where Picard clutches the flute in [TS]

  this one I really love at the very end [TS]

  he offers the little metal like cymbals [TS]

  and things that captain day thumb is [TS]

  brought down on to Ella dro he offers [TS]

  them all back to the his his the people [TS]

  on the ship and and I'd like and the [TS]

  knife and they're like no you keep it [TS]

  and he salutes him with it at the end [TS]

  it's the same kind of emotional note at [TS]

  the end for Picard so I love it Darmok [TS]

  it's the best I love it yeah I cross [TS]

  that off my list and I I won a bet with [TS]

  myself oh yeah you thought that would be [TS]

  my pick I just won ten dollars for [TS]

  myself congratulations Wow shake shake [TS]

  shake your head in latinum don't be a [TS]

  sore loser it / winter hey I will try [TS]

  suck at me osc I tried I tried there you [TS]

  go Scott look at that you proved me [TS]

  wrong yea though I do show Darmok [TS]

  love Darmok as well I have yet another [TS]

  nitpick about Darmok though because [TS]

  there is a scene where data and Troy are [TS]

  trying to figure out you know where [TS]

  these allegory metaphors could come from [TS]

  and they're like I don't know we have [TS]

  this giant powerful computer maybe we [TS]

  could run some searches yeah and they [TS]

  these are like the worst google searches [TS]

  every are they I don't understand why [TS]

  they don't figure this out almost [TS]

  immediately with the help of the [TS]

  computer but Starfleet computers are [TS]

  built on Alta Vista yeah it's ask jeeves [TS]

  these oh Jesus a hologram you can get in [TS]

  the holodeck 2 if you want doesn't know [TS]

  what anything is he's very unhelpful [TS]

  very good sense all right it is time for [TS]

  the Robo pics from Joe steel and Dan [TS]

  Morin Joe is picking from deep space 9 [TS]

  Deep Space nine again what is going on [TS]

  because it's the best series Joe is [TS]

  picking Paradise Lost which is the he [TS]

  says unofficial part 2 of home front I [TS]

  could have Robo Joe parachute in from [TS]

  another time zone and tell me why he [TS]

  picked Paradise Lost maybe we'll do that [TS]

  so Paradise Lost was not my first pick [TS]

  although I am surprised at whenever so [TS]

  poorly Paradise Lost is about the [TS]

  Federation the heart of the Federation [TS]

  earth being taken over from the inside [TS]

  in a coup a military coup by Admiral [TS]

  Leyton who's played by Robert Foxworth [TS]

  and he's notable for being of Babylon 5 [TS]

  fame and also he would go on to play [TS]

  almost exactly the same role in a Vulcan [TS]

  Ark of enterprise episodes in season 4 [TS]

  but this one Paradise Lost the the [TS]

  second part the unofficial second part [TS]

  of homecoming they don't don't have part [TS]

  1 and part 2 so that in qualify but at [TS]

  this one I feel is the more important of [TS]

  the two episodes because they have to [TS]

  deal with the actual coup occurring [TS]

  whereas the first one is definitely [TS]

  setting up the coup you have Benjamin [TS]

  Cisco's father brock peters also at [TS]

  merle Cartwright appearing you have the [TS]

  the captain of the Lakota who is sent [TS]

  out to do battle with the Defiant which [TS]

  was a big deal to Federation ships [TS]

  squaring off both thinking the other [TS]

  needed to do what it needed to do and [TS]

  Admiral Layton's plans all fall apart [TS]

  and you see that Earth is not so easy to [TS]

  control through fear so I i really think [TS]

  that it's it's quite an outstanding [TS]

  early episode of deep space 9 it [TS]

  certainly is not the height of the [TS]

  Dominion War arc so that's that's one of [TS]

  the reasons why I picked it and with a [TS]

  final pick of the first round Robo dan [TS]

  Morin selects an episode that was on my [TS]

  list the twisty turny brannon braga [TS]

  episode from the next generation cause [TS]

  and effect in which the enterprise is [TS]

  destroyed every time every every cept [TS]

  the last one it's great on my list as [TS]

  well this was probably I think the first [TS]

  full episode of Star Trek that I ever [TS]

  actually saw and it was shown to me by [TS]

  my cousins and I remember watching it in [TS]

  my end uncle's house when I was probably [TS]

  a teenager of some variety I being a [TS]

  very interesting episode and kind of [TS]

  exciting i love the time travel element [TS]

  of it it's hard to understate how [TS]

  interesting it is you know to come into [TS]

  a show and basically have the premise [TS]

  that the starship gets destroyed and so [TS]

  i had no idea what was going on but i [TS]

  remembered vividly to these days so many [TS]

  of the aspects of this and when i [TS]

  rewatched it recently I it maize me how [TS]

  many lines of dialogue I remembered and [TS]

  just some of the shots and the overall [TS]

  plot now what I like best about this is [TS]

  that it's it's a mystery episode you [TS]

  don't really know what's going on and of [TS]

  course it starts out in in media res [TS]

  with the enterprise exploding and [TS]

  everybody you know Picard telling [TS]

  everybody to abandon ship and then [TS]

  suddenly you're back to where you [TS]

  started before so obviously I imagine [TS]

  that some of the idea behind this [TS]

  probably came from something like well I [TS]

  was going to say came from groundhog day [TS]

  but groundhog day actually apparently [TS]

  aired or was released afterwards so [TS]

  interesting that those came out around [TS]

  the same time [TS]

  um the the the time loop aspect upon [TS]

  revisiting it I felt like maybe it [TS]

  doesn't make quite as much sense like [TS]

  why do they remember some things now [TS]

  things but there's there's some hand [TS]

  waving that goes on there I'm okay with [TS]

  it because the premise of it is set up [TS]

  very interestingly I imagine this was a [TS]

  big challenge to shoot as an episode too [TS]

  just because you have to do the same [TS]

  scenes over and over again and you have [TS]

  to sort of make them interesting every [TS]

  time this episode was directed by [TS]

  Jonathan Frakes and he does a nice job [TS]

  of trying to figure out ways to shoot [TS]

  the scenes differently so like if you [TS]

  look at the poker game every time [TS]

  they're playing it it's in different [TS]

  different orders or different angles you [TS]

  know sometimes how from above sometimes [TS]

  shot from eye level like it's it's well [TS]

  done I really also enjoy that this is an [TS]

  episode that gives Beverly a chance to [TS]

  sort of take the reins she's the one who [TS]

  starts to like put together what's going [TS]

  on it's nice because I feel like she [TS]

  doesn't get a lot of episodes that focus [TS]

  on her there's a nice bit with obviously [TS]

  when they figure out what's going on [TS]

  they managed to send a message via data [TS]

  and we have this wonderful scenes all [TS]

  the threes popping up that eventually [TS]

  tells them that that commander Riker [TS]

  solution is the right one and i love the [TS]

  callback and sort of continuity stuff at [TS]

  the end when we discover that the other [TS]

  ship that they're about to run into is [TS]

  Captain by Kelsey Grammer from cheers [TS]

  and that it's you know they're wearing [TS]

  the old Star Trek Star Trek movie era [TS]

  uniforms the red uniforms and they've [TS]

  been stuck in that time loop for a [TS]

  really long time and I was kind of [TS]

  wondering I'm sure there are secondary [TS]

  novels and stuff to deal with it but I [TS]

  love the idea of all these people who [TS]

  have been stuck there for like 80 years [TS]

  and are just like oh well we're out now [TS]

  I guess we should go about our lives and [TS]

  and wow you guys have great new [TS]

  technology this is this is fantastic so [TS]

  I liked this episode a lot and it's [TS]

  really stuck with me for a long time I [TS]

  know people rip on Brannon Braga for [TS]

  other shows and other things but that is [TS]

  a legitimately great episode of TNG it [TS]

  is I think the problem that I have with [TS]

  it is just that I feel like you wanted [TS]

  to redo that episode of more times and [TS]

  so that you see more [TS]

  Timescape is kind of like this and there [TS]

  are different variations on it including [TS]

  one that's still on my list but this one [TS]

  is I think the best one right and plus [TS]

  kelsey Grammer's in it at the end which [TS]

  is wacky yeah I love that all right that [TS]

  first round is done just to total it up [TS]

  one original series episode 3 next [TS]

  generation episodes 3 deep space nine [TS]

  episodes other series are also star trek [TS]

  David Laura let's start the second round [TS]

  with you I you know I'm because I'm [TS]

  looking at my list here because I didn't [TS]

  put them in any kind of order um this is [TS]

  like a tech yeah it seems like maybe uh [TS]

  you need to do more homework there David [TS]

  do you need to pass you need to skip [TS]

  around my I might pick another original [TS]

  series episode Mirror Mirror the first [TS]

  time we see the mirror universe is and [TS]

  it's you know it's it's parked all kinds [TS]

  of you know several episodes of deep [TS]

  space nine at least you know a pair of [TS]

  episodes and enterprise it sparked a lot [TS]

  of fan fiction including a very famous [TS]

  story visit to a weird planet and visit [TS]

  to a weird planet revisited and it is [TS]

  just again it's the economy of 60s TV [TS]

  storytelling it is very straightforward [TS]

  and simple but it shows us a wonderful [TS]

  variation of an evil enterprise and the [TS]

  Imperial Starfleet and you know a Sulu [TS]

  who is ruthless and scarred and a [TS]

  Chekhov who hopes to advance through [TS]

  assassination and then gets thrown in [TS]

  the agony booth for his troubles and [TS]

  where he gets to scream which is you [TS]

  know what a check out strengths if [TS]

  you're gonna have screaming go to check [TS]

  off and a very clever plot and way of [TS]

  resolving it again and leaving a very [TS]

  conflicted evil spock and we don't know [TS]

  what will happen and of course it was [TS]

  irresistible for deep space nine to go [TS]

  back and do do a whole string of [TS]

  episodes [TS]

  set in the mirror universe and we find [TS]

  that what we suspected might happen with [TS]

  Spock kind of failed miserably right [TS]

  which is very interesting at least [TS]

  backfired that's what back siren says he [TS]

  did actually take over the right yeah [TS]

  the empire but then it fell I guess it's [TS]

  what deeper bass nonsense and it's it's [TS]

  just it's a really you know for all for [TS]

  all the shows i mean the 60s is filled [TS]

  with TV shows that did the evil twin or [TS]

  the evil variation and you know even [TS]

  even just in that genre this is maybe [TS]

  the best of those plus you have the [TS]

  Tantalus field yeah sure that's wrong [TS]

  it's all it's all good i like the ending [TS]

  students woman where where the the woman [TS]

  from the other other other enterprise [TS]

  comes on as a crew transfer and and [TS]

  that's a funny little kind of ending [TS]

  coda they're also yes Chekov screams a [TS]

  lot I think at one point they hang him [TS]

  on the wall and you know when you hang [TS]

  check up on the wall in the first act he [TS]

  got a fire in later he has to go off [TS]

  yeah it's really bad joke sorry I [TS]

  apologize I apologize I'm just proud [TS]

  that I wasn't the one who made that [TS]

  because I'm a sucker for Chico's gun ah [TS]

  Justin what do you have for us well that [TS]

  was an excellent pic of an external [TS]

  episode allow me to pair it with another [TS]

  mirror universe episode that is also [TS]

  excellent um like like bookends you know [TS]

  the the first Mirror Mirror Mirror [TS]

  Universe episode was respect now let me [TS]

  pick the last mirror universe episode in [TS]

  a mirror darkly from enterprise you [TS]

  picked an enterprise episode yes I did [TS]

  yes my god I never would have guessed [TS]

  Justin it was on my list it was on and [TS]

  it was the only address President this [TS]

  can say I worked to get one episode from [TS]

  every iteration of trick and that was [TS]

  the one enterprise well it's a great [TS]

  episode it's a two-part episode and it's [TS]

  great to part up so it's a sequel to two [TS]

  original series episodes at once plus [TS]

  plus you have a Gorn ma huh you got a [TS]

  nice got a corn [TS]

  uh corn Tholians oh the Tholians in this [TS]

  episode is so wonderful like everything [TS]

  from the the little situation with with [TS]

  flocks interrogating to the space [TS]

  battles and everything like that and [TS]

  their little station and everything and [TS]

  their little plot to tear the ship apart [TS]

  and learn all its secrets too and they [TS]

  do a carefully constructed classic [TS]

  series Federation starship bridge that [TS]

  they are on from user the second episode [TS]

  beautiful yeah not not just the bridge [TS]

  though like that the corridors yeah like [TS]

  all of it the engine room oh so good and [TS]

  and you've got like treachery and [TS]

  everyone everyone in this episode like [TS]

  every single character from top to [TS]

  bottom whether it's human-alien whatever [TS]

  they are all over the top bad they're [TS]

  just over the top evil and two of the [TS]

  brilliant touches in this first of all [TS]

  yeah there's no connection to our [TS]

  universe it is just entirely set over [TS]

  there yeah although I mean well the [TS]

  stuff the stuff comes over from our our [TS]

  universe but that's it yes but we never [TS]

  see our universe right and as a result [TS]

  they redid the opening credits as you [TS]

  know with this evil marshal military [TS]

  theme with all these dark dark clips and [TS]

  it's the only episode of enterprise that [TS]

  has a good theme song and the other the [TS]

  other thing I love about it is it's it's [TS]

  one of the only times where Scott Bakula [TS]

  seems like is actually having fun yep [TS]

  and is having a ball that is my knock [TS]

  against enterprises you know why do you [TS]

  hire this man who is a very personable [TS]

  actor then you make him scowl and be [TS]

  serious all the time ah unless he's [TS]

  watching water polo he loves his water [TS]

  oh yeah that's true with his dogs got [TS]

  water call and his dog but not in the [TS]

  merrier hey does water polo even exist [TS]

  in the mirror universe it's played in [TS]

  lava and [TS]

  this is a very short it's just a form of [TS]

  execution yeah and they're only allowed [TS]

  to touch the ball with their beer i [TS]

  sentence you to lava polo no that's what [TS]

  happens yeah so enemy r darkly and then [TS]

  and then Archer dies at the end which is [TS]

  wonderful to bitch and just Oh is so [TS]

  good so that's that's my pick for this [TS]

  round that's a good one let me take a [TS]

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  incomparable aleem what's your choice [TS]

  I'm going with another next generation [TS]

  episode just because I am worried that [TS]

  someone else might take it so I am [TS]

  saying tapestry from the next generation [TS]

  yeah season six and so the the story [TS]

  here is Picard a shot while on a [TS]

  diplomatic mission and it's a qso Dan [TS]

  Dino q episodes have a reputation but I [TS]

  actually kind of love them so so this is [TS]

  good this might look this is the good [TS]

  ones just the good ones is the good way [TS]

  I know I'd I should have filled my list [TS]

  with Q episodes because I know that I [TS]

  would have been safe but so cute he's [TS]

  been shot and Q comes in he's like hey [TS]

  you can relive this moment of your past [TS]

  this moment that you regret that Picard [TS]

  has talked about regretting and so [TS]

  Picard goes back in time gets to relive [TS]

  this The Situation's bar fight that he [TS]

  was in um when he was just out of the [TS]

  Academy and and he finds out that that [TS]

  was such a major tipping point in his [TS]

  life that it gave him drive and ambition [TS]

  to live and live well and be successful [TS]

  that when he comes back to the analog [TS]

  version of him in the present day he's [TS]

  just like this science officer that [TS]

  nobody knows and who has accomplished [TS]

  nothing and i just i love i love this [TS]

  episode so much it's um I'm a sucker for [TS]

  for those like what if episodes I have [TS]

  those moments of my life and like well [TS]

  what if I had done this thing [TS]

  differently and I think we all have [TS]

  those and it's kind of a wish [TS]

  fulfillment thing for me to where I'm [TS]

  like well maybe Q will come and let me [TS]

  realize how much you'll see how it all [TS]

  turned out it's possible well and the [TS]

  beauty of the plotting of it I mean it's [TS]

  basically a quantum leap episode is what [TS]

  it is yeah it is and the but the beauty [TS]

  of it is the symmetry of you know he's [TS]

  shot but it's not that he's been shot [TS]

  the blast has fused his artificial heart [TS]

  and is causing it to fail and the only [TS]

  reason he has an artificial heart is [TS]

  because of that bar fight which is a [TS]

  story he tells Wesley in a terrible [TS]

  season 2 episode and they did a [TS]

  wonderful job of going back to this [TS]

  really interesting anecdote in a dumb [TS]

  episode and and giving it weight and [TS]

  giving it a purpose Scott this was our [TS]

  the first random Trek episode you and I [TS]

  did it it was I was going to say this is [TS]

  uh this round I was going to pick [TS]

  tapestry night well for many reasons I [TS]

  really like [TS]

  episode i enjoyed q this was the first [TS]

  episode of random track that I talked [TS]

  about with mr. Jason Snell and also I [TS]

  think it may have one of the my favorite [TS]

  lines in Star Trek ever which is human [TS]

  play dom-jot it means nothing to anyone [TS]

  but I love saying it I just like San [TS]

  Picard run around in blue yeah it's so [TS]

  it's so creepy it's just creepy kids [TS]

  it's weird and he's only got like a pip [TS]

  and a half on the car subsonic what is [TS]

  happening it's now Scott's turned to go [TS]

  because Robo Dan and Robo Joe must wait [TS]

  for me and for Scott what do you think [TS]

  Scott what do you have Robo I am going [TS]

  to do something I in real time I'm [TS]

  changing up my my order here because I [TS]

  feel like no one's picked a Voyager [TS]

  episode yes yesterday I should I want to [TS]

  go there they'll be available later I [TS]

  suspect I have what that everyone i have [TS]

  i have one that i love this is my [TS]

  favorite episode of voyager this is what [TS]

  I had hoped voyager would be and it was [TS]

  not year of Hell which is another [TS]

  episode that at the end never actually [TS]

  happened which is kind of annoying but [TS]

  it is the premise here is that Voyager [TS]

  is just going through this year hell [TS]

  everything's about functioning but also [TS]

  that is happening because there is this [TS]

  man who has a Timeship and he just keeps [TS]

  resetting time over and over again [TS]

  because he wants to save his family he's [TS]

  obsessed with it and he's just screwing [TS]

  up the timeline for everybody is a [TS]

  fantastic episode I love it and it's got [TS]

  red from that 70 show so how could you [TS]

  not enjoy that yeah basically what we've [TS]

  learned is we really like episodes that [TS]

  often don't feature the regular cast and [TS]

  often take place in an alternate version [TS]

  yeah it's it's well these are the [TS]

  special episodes right they're not just [TS]

  a run and run of the mill story of the [TS]

  week it's true that was going to be my [TS]

  next episode a lot of I never fear [TS]

  I know reciprocity and i just want to [TS]

  mention part of the reason i love it and [TS]

  part of the reason i think that is a [TS]

  showcase I like Voyager I don't love it [TS]

  universally I don't love any Star Trek [TS]

  universally but one of the things I love [TS]

  about it is that it shows how amazing [TS]

  Janeway is and how tenacious she is in [TS]

  determined and smart and and and i love [TS]

  that and that's why i want another [TS]

  female starship captain featured in a [TS]

  series all right i'm gonna go and i'm [TS]

  going to shock scott again don't do it [TS]

  Jason I've been or is this mirror mirror [TS]

  universe jason are you yes i'm stroking [TS]

  my goatee narrows god rah i'm picking [TS]

  again again I put two next generation [TS]

  episodes at the top of my list thinking [TS]

  that I would be lucky to get one and [TS]

  I've gotten them both because with my [TS]

  second pick I'm grabbing the definitive [TS]

  star trek the next generation episode [TS]

  the best of both worlds the Borg attack [TS]

  at Wolf 359 and decimate the fleet the [TS]

  card is taken and turned into a Borg [TS]

  then there's a summer where we all [TS]

  wonder what's going to happen and we [TS]

  come back and the deflector dish helps [TS]

  them sort of defeat them and in the end [TS]

  Picard is rescued and everything is okay [TS]

  kind of but it's the I think this is the [TS]

  episode that had next generation like [TS]

  helped it break through to a broader [TS]

  audience people were talking about the [TS]

  cliffhanger and of course it went on to [TS]

  define a lot of what what little [TS]

  continuity we got in the next generation [TS]

  a lot of it was the Borg storyline [TS]

  Picard's storyline have being affected [TS]

  by being assimilated by the Borg and of [TS]

  course it led to a very nice next [TS]

  generation film first contact so I feel [TS]

  like how could you not I it's right [TS]

  there so I have to take it best of both [TS]

  worlds I mean it has it has great [TS]

  moments it is i would say a brilliant [TS]

  half an episode and then they resolve it [TS]

  and then they resolve it it's true yeah [TS]

  half witch witch and that's totally [TS]

  because you know Michael pill we wrote [TS]

  the first half and he was gonna leave [TS]

  yeah I didn't know a good luck everybody [TS]

  and then he had [TS]

  a guy to figure out how to actually [TS]

  resolve it later and it shows yeah I [TS]

  mean it's you know but but the first [TS]

  half is brilliant I if I was it if it [TS]

  was on my list I was only going to pick [TS]

  the first half that first half though [TS]

  and the ending of you know Picard Isla [TS]

  cutis ed they do that tight shot of [TS]

  Riker as mr. Worf fire you're like no [TS]

  rancor you can't fire is because in fact [TS]

  I I decided this before we started that [TS]

  you can't not take both parts of a [TS]

  two-parter and I was going to call it [TS]

  the best of both worlds rule um but you [TS]

  know there's stuff in this i think the [TS]

  second episode is good it just cannot [TS]

  keep up with the first episode which is [TS]

  great it is maybe the definitive next [TS]

  generation episode let's move on to the [TS]

  robo pics Joe Robo steel Oh is he has to [TS]

  skip over some of his pics that were [TS]

  sniped to go tools available to a [TS]

  Voyager episode again what what this is [TS]

  again off format a bit tinker tenor dr. [TS]

  spy one of my favorite titles on Voyager [TS]

  so you like the title I like this title [TS]

  it's a fine episode it's a fine episode [TS]

  I enjoy it and you know it's robert [TS]

  picardo getting to have a blast so you [TS]

  know I'm okay with that yeah yeah he [TS]

  just delightful mm-hmm everybody loves [TS]

  Robert Picardo he's great and the [TS]

  opening is great i look forward to robo [TS]

  Joe telling us more about this emphasis [TS]

  please Joe tell us it seemed like a [TS]

  lackluster response remember to another [TS]

  podcast perhaps robo Joe explain why [TS]

  tank retainer dr. spy is one of my [TS]

  favorite wager episodes is very light [TS]

  comedy it does have character [TS]

  development for the doctor I quite enjoy [TS]

  seeing his fantasies unfold on screen as [TS]

  outlandish and flamboyant as they are I [TS]

  feel like it is it is quite novel it [TS]

  doesn't take itself too seriously the [TS]

  major tension in the episode is [TS]

  something that you know will be easily [TS]

  averted but it's just just watching how [TS]

  he hopes others [TS]

  see him and now he wants to project [TS]

  himself through his fantasies I feel [TS]

  like that is one of the reasons why it's [TS]

  one of the better voyager episodes and I [TS]

  think that Voyager is definitely [TS]

  stronger when it's doing comedy than [TS]

  when it's trying to be serious so that [TS]

  that's why I wanted to go ahead and snag [TS]

  that one especially since I know [TS]

  nobody's picking voyager episodes on [TS]

  this podcast robo Dan's turn to pick and [TS]

  robo Dan it has been sniped as well by [TS]

  by several people here so you should be [TS]

  happy but he's going to go for a deep [TS]

  space 9 episode because it's dan but [TS]

  with a little original series flavor [TS]

  celebrating the trouble with tribbles [TS]

  with trials and tribulations it's on my [TS]

  list you and to and I was thinking about [TS]

  picking it the neck show me knows my [TS]

  next round it's such a good episode oh [TS]

  that is an episode if you someone [TS]

  doesn't know anything about deep space 9 [TS]

  but they know Star Trek so they know [TS]

  Kirk and Spock and tribbles you show [TS]

  them that episode and they love it [TS]

  unsurprisingly my second pick also a [TS]

  time-travel episode but this one this is [TS]

  just a fun episode from start to finish [TS]

  it's from deep space nine which is my my [TS]

  favorite of all the Star Trek series and [TS]

  its trials and tribble-ations it's a [TS]

  fantastically just an opportunity to get [TS]

  the crew of deep space nine in the [TS]

  original series and interact with Kirk [TS]

  and some of the original series [TS]

  characters and it's done by basically [TS]

  interpolating it along into the classic [TS]

  trouble with tribbles episode and so [TS]

  Cisco and the crew are basically [TS]

  sneaking around trying to find a way to [TS]

  prevent this guy from this this Klingon [TS]

  operative disguised as human from [TS]

  killing Kirk and and sabotaging all [TS]

  these the events of this episode it's [TS]

  really well done even watching it now in [TS]

  the non restored version it looks great [TS]

  like the way that they just sort of [TS]

  interleave everybody into it and some of [TS]

  that is obviously the huge production [TS]

  values right like you know everybody [TS]

  gets to dress up and wear the classic [TS]

  series uniforms and use all the [TS]

  technology and make fun of how primitive [TS]

  some of the technology is and it's shot [TS]

  against all these sets that are you know [TS]

  clearly painstakingly rebuilt and it [TS]

  just it looks great it's fun you know [TS]

  O'Brien gets dressed down by Kirk at one [TS]

  point for starting a fight Cisco gets a [TS]

  meet Kirk at the end of the episode Dax [TS]

  gets to talk about how attractive Spock [TS]

  is and Julian worries about perhaps [TS]

  falling in love with his [TS]

  great-grandmother it's it's just it's a [TS]

  delightful romp we get Worf's non [TS]

  explanation about why Klingons in the [TS]

  original series look so different we get [TS]

  odo petting a Tribble there's just [TS]

  there's just so much to love about this [TS]

  episode from start to finish including [TS]

  even the framing story which has the [TS]

  establishes I think this temporal [TS]

  investigations department and Starfleet [TS]

  that's come to question Cisco about [TS]

  exactly what he did I love their [TS]

  exasperation with Kirk and how annoying [TS]

  he was from a time travel perspective I [TS]

  like that they don't like any of Cisco's [TS]

  time travel jokes intended or otherwise [TS]

  this is great showcase for every books [TS]

  every time he gets to do that [TS]

  million-dollar smile I really just like [TS]

  it's it's a delight and so everything [TS]

  about this this episode is just fun from [TS]

  start to finish and I think that's why I [TS]

  like it so much even as someone who is [TS]

  not a huge fan of the original series [TS]

  where I had seen much of the original [TS]

  series before this point there is a [TS]

  delight in marrying these two very [TS]

  different examples of this show and and [TS]

  you know ds9 is a very different version [TS]

  of the show than the original series but [TS]

  the fact that it all takes place in the [TS]

  same universe is kind of delightful it's [TS]

  amazing the jokes and knowing trouble [TS]

  with tribbles by heart some of the jokes [TS]

  in there are very clearly done by other [TS]

  fans who no trouble with tribbles by [TS]

  heart because like the scene where they [TS]

  are slowly scanning the tribbles and [TS]

  tossing them over their shoulders [TS]

  intercut with the triples falling out [TS]

  and hitting curve is yes I'm that funny [TS]

  it's funny in the original it is extra [TS]

  funny when it's Dax and Cisco chucking [TS]

  them over their shoulder and just wet [TS]

  they just [TS]

  are continually bombarded William [TS]

  Shatner down below it's great yeah i [TS]

  mean this this is an example again of [TS]

  why i say deep space nine is the best of [TS]

  the series and especially having read [TS]

  the 50-year mission books that's you [TS]

  know kind of the oral history of the [TS]

  show Oh of all the series that was a [TS]

  very tight writing staff that stuck [TS]

  together and they were on fire I mean [TS]

  they were just a finely tuned machine [TS]

  compared to the other Trek series and [TS]

  they were doing these kind of episodes [TS]

  and getting those kind of details in and [TS]

  getting you know the the density of [TS]

  reference and and the way it's woven [TS]

  together there are other Trek things [TS]

  that have tried to weave together stuff [TS]

  it's no this this one did it right well [TS]

  and you can tell like the joy that cisco [TS]

  has in being their leaders like a little [TS]

  kid and that's a lot of fun to watch too [TS]

  yeah yeah all right third round time [TS]

  David what do you have all right I'm [TS]

  torn but we've had enough Deep Space [TS]

  nine Episode so i think i'm going to go [TS]

  back to the original series again for a [TS]

  glimpse at something we had always been [TS]

  curious about through the first season [TS]

  and we wanted to know more about we [TS]

  still want to know more about we don't [TS]

  with even with all these shows and [TS]

  movies we still don't know enough amok [TS]

  time oh it's the first time we see the [TS]

  Vulcan homeworld it's the first time we [TS]

  get a real glimpse into a Vulcan society [TS]

  and how it works and and Vulcan ritual [TS]

  and religion and you know again son of a [TS]

  theologian yes it's very fascinating and [TS]

  and yet it is it is all made up Hui [TS]

  because again it's 60s TV sci-fi but [TS]

  it's a fine strain of hooey and you know [TS]

  again a really nicely constructed a [TS]

  story that lets Kirk and Spock fight one [TS]

  another which you know can often be [TS]

  contrived when you have your heroes [TS]

  fighting hello DC comics and but this is [TS]

  a very smart way of doing it and it's [TS]

  it's all strategy right it's [TS]

  it's two Pring picking Kirk to be her [TS]

  champion yeah and and throwing a wrench [TS]

  into the plans she had already made [TS]

  which is kind of kind of clever and then [TS]

  McCoy stepping up and saving the day [TS]

  which leads to one of Spock's greatest [TS]

  moments at the very end when you know [TS]

  for it well two of them actually we're [TS]

  first he is you know a live long and [TS]

  prosper Spock I shall do neither for I [TS]

  have killed my captain right and that he [TS]

  beams back up to the enterprise and who [TS]

  should walk out of sickbay gions Moran [TS]

  Jim and McCoy is like I think we were [TS]

  just about to see something to bring [TS]

  down the house right that is such a [TS]

  delightful episode on every level even [TS]

  you know oh i just i love i love that [TS]

  episode cree it's a great episode and [TS]

  and almost of our Vulcan lore really [TS]

  kind of comes out of that from out of DC [TS]

  Fontana and especially out of that [TS]

  episode alright Justin what do you have [TS]

  so next up is a next generation episode [TS]

  chain of command a wonderful two-parter [TS]

  in which we encounter a new captain of [TS]

  the enterprise briefly Jellico and he [TS]

  ruffled some feathers but the the reason [TS]

  i picked this is of course the [TS]

  incredible performance by patrick [TS]

  stewart when he's being tortured by the [TS]

  Kardashians it's it's probably the most [TS]

  powerful performance he provides [TS]

  throughout the entire series even more [TS]

  powerful in my opinion than his [TS]

  performance during the inner light [TS]

  although it's close but you know that [TS]

  the the work they put into this episode [TS]

  to research torture to watch videos and [TS]

  source material and like the way [TS]

  everyone just poured themselves into [TS]

  making this an absolutely incredible [TS]

  story it shows and it's it's a [TS]

  wonderfully put together piece of work [TS]

  so chain of command if we didn't have [TS]

  the best of both worlds rule I would [TS]

  have picked the second half of it [TS]

  because again i can't i can't go for it [TS]

  if half of it doesn't quite you know the [TS]

  first half is okay it's a typical [TS]

  episode [TS]

  but then you get to the reason they made [TS]

  it which is yeah yeah utterly brilliant [TS]

  and and certainly his best performance I [TS]

  agree and it's it's very much in the [TS]

  tradition of again 60s TV doing the [TS]

  interrogation episodes but this one is [TS]

  grounded in reality and it's it is hard [TS]

  to watch at points yeah I do agree that [TS]

  you know if you look at them as [TS]

  individual episodes it's easy to say the [TS]

  part 2 as obviously the standout but I [TS]

  feel like they contrast each other in a [TS]

  very necessary way in the beginning in [TS]

  the first part you've got you know that [TS]

  the teams together you know a smaller [TS]

  subset of the team but the teams working [TS]

  together and they're they're going to go [TS]

  infiltrate this place they're going to [TS]

  go accomplish a mission and you know it [TS]

  just shows how everything's working as [TS]

  intended and you know Starfleet's great [TS]

  and we're equipped and we're going to do [TS]

  this and then it all crumbles and I feel [TS]

  like that setup going into the the slow [TS]

  degradation of his entire life [TS]

  throughout the the torture sessions is [TS]

  is necessarily set up by everything that [TS]

  happens in part one so fair enough yeah [TS]

  for me it's it's you can't look at them [TS]

  separately it's just one story that [TS]

  happens to be told in two episodes [TS]

  because the format dictates it and he [TS]

  tells Troy to put on uniform on yeah [TS]

  yeah yeah finally cuz it your face yes [TS]

  yes yes Ronnie Cox doing a good job as [TS]

  Captain jerkface yeah is it every cat [TS]

  from andrew lloyd webber's cats IV [TS]

  income yeah what's wrong with ye got rid [TS]

  of the fish from the ready room he ate [TS]

  it no see British that is now headcanon [TS]

  alene what do you have I am going with a [TS]

  Voyager episode um blink of an eye which [TS]

  is an episode in which Voyager gets [TS]

  stuck in orbit around a planet and this [TS]

  planet has a different like time [TS]

  dilation [TS]

  than the rest of the galaxy so in the [TS]

  amount of time that it takes Voyager to [TS]

  kind of get break out of orbit it's been [TS]

  centuries on this planet and and so it [TS]

  goes through it that Voyager becomes [TS]

  part of the mythology of this planet as [TS]

  a permit of society they see this new [TS]

  star in the sky they start to worship it [TS]

  and it becomes the driving factor in [TS]

  them reaching technological innovations [TS]

  until they can finally get to a point [TS]

  where they can reach Voyager and board [TS]

  Voyager and so we get like this [TS]

  bird's-eye view of a civilization rising [TS]

  and it's just it's neat it's just a neat [TS]

  story i almost put that one on my list [TS]

  Scott what you have what do I have this [TS]

  is another Q episode because I like you [TS]

  unlike some people some people do but [TS]

  I'd like I also like fish out of water [TS]

  episodes and so deja Q where Q loses all [TS]

  his powers to be taught a lesson by the [TS]

  continuum is what I am picking I enjoy [TS]

  it hehe his hand gets pierced with a [TS]

  fork by Guinan he tells Geordi that's [TS]

  the in order to save the planet and help [TS]

  the moon's orbital decay you just [TS]

  changed the gravitational constant of [TS]

  the universe lots of great things he [TS]

  doesn't understand why he's hungry he he [TS]

  doesn't he doesn't do well as a human [TS]

  he's so whiny I love it he is very whiny [TS]

  yeah lots of great moments and I just [TS]

  enjoy how much q annoys Picard generally [TS]

  and so I like their their back and forth [TS]

  in this episode as well my favorite part [TS]

  of that episode is 1q comes to sickbay [TS]

  to talk to data and it's when it's after [TS]

  data saved his life and they're [TS]

  repairing him and data can't talk right [TS]

  yet because they haven't repaired that [TS]

  part of him and you know Q tells him [TS]

  that you know he's a much better human [TS]

  than he'll ever be and and I love the [TS]

  way they set that scene up with data not [TS]

  being able to respond because I can't [TS]

  imagine a response that would have gone [TS]

  better in that scene than silence [TS]

  yeah and it ends has great ending where [TS]

  with data and cute data queue gives data [TS]

  a gift unmake stay too laughs oh I love [TS]

  that Jason do you love deja Q I think [TS]

  that it is using Hugh and his best which [TS]

  is laying him low and having him not be [TS]

  this impossibly powerful figure so I do [TS]

  think it's actually a very good use of Q [TS]

  naught not play tapestry level where you [TS]

  might not even be there is the best q [TS]

  episode but I think this is the best [TS]

  episode with well I don't know it's it's [TS]

  a good q episode it's a very good q [TS]

  episode I agree all right um I am going [TS]

  next and I'm going back to the original [TS]

  series this will be my first original [TS]

  series pick and I had to say I went I [TS]

  went for the classic I went for my [TS]

  original series favorite episode and I [TS]

  strange that it's the episode that pays [TS]

  an homage went before it but the trouble [TS]

  with tribbles is my choice I love this [TS]

  episode it is such a funny script by [TS]

  David Gerald it's performed with a light [TS]

  touch by the actors I I got to see it [TS]

  performed live on stage at trek in the [TS]

  park in Portland a couple of summers ago [TS]

  and it killed it's so funny that on it's [TS]

  a it's just it's a it showed like a like [TS]

  a band playing a song and you realize a [TS]

  cover of a song and you realize that [TS]

  that song is a really good song because [TS]

  it can be interpreted in different ways [TS]

  you know like that's a really good song [TS]

  I that same feeling about trouble with [TS]

  tribbles like that's it that's a really [TS]

  good script like because on stage in a [TS]

  park on a summer afternoon it killed it [TS]

  was hilarious it was just it's a funny [TS]

  episode I love it there's fur balls [TS]

  there's Klingons there's there's there's [TS]

  poison grain Captain Kirk's just [TS]

  seething contempt for the bureaucracy is [TS]

  amazing hora is charmed by these triples [TS]

  and unwittingly leash unleashes [TS]

  destruction on the enterprise which then [TS]

  is visited on the Klingons at the end [TS]

  there's the con man Cyrano Jones I you [TS]

  know what's not to like i love i love [TS]

  this episode even though many triples [TS]

  die in it that's okay there there are [TS]

  more troubles that it has so many moving [TS]

  parts to it [TS]

  and they shouldn't all work together but [TS]

  they do right and I mean it's an [TS]

  espionage story it's an espionage story [TS]

  it's a con game it's a cute animal story [TS]

  and and it's a comedy it's it's satire [TS]

  it's a you know all of these things uh [TS]

  and how does it work what the hell yeah [TS]

  that should or shouldn't work written by [TS]

  a teenager presumably if I like the help [TS]

  of like gene kun or something but yeah [TS]

  or DC find him and even though they had [TS]

  light moments in other episodes even [TS]

  though they had other comedy episodes [TS]

  there is a clunkiness to the way they [TS]

  play in the Harry Mudd episodes right [TS]

  there's there's a lot of moments that [TS]

  work and there are a lot of moments that [TS]

  just fall flat on their face and this is [TS]

  just high comedy done perfectly right oh [TS]

  yeah and and I haven't memorized too [TS]

  mm-hmm ok so the troll with tribbles is [TS]

  off the board I have collected my top [TS]

  three picks so me draft over time for [TS]

  robo pics from Joe and dan Joe pics from [TS]

  deep space nine the episode rocks and [TS]

  Shoals rocks and Shoals is one of the [TS]

  Deep Space nine episodes in side of the [TS]

  story arc where the station has been [TS]

  taken over by the Dominion we split our [TS]

  time between the planet's surface where [TS]

  Cisco and crew have crashed and the [TS]

  station being run by the Dominion and [TS]

  the remnants of the Bajoran people still [TS]

  there and it's a very interesting [TS]

  episode not just for the a plot about [TS]

  what's happening on the the desert [TS]

  planet but for what's happening on the [TS]

  station itself because Kira is battling [TS]

  with what to do surrounding keeping the [TS]

  station up and running now she is [TS]

  accused by a Bajoran Vedic as [TS]

  collaborating essentially with them that [TS]

  they need to resist and Kira is very [TS]

  prepared to stop this this Vedic and [TS]

  stop her from lashing out because she [TS]

  worries about what it will mean for the [TS]

  people on the station like oh well if we [TS]

  don't keep order then you know things [TS]

  will be worse for us that's not [TS]

  something vetted Yasim [TS]

  is with and in fact in this B plot vetta [TS]

  Qasim surprises Kyra who is there to [TS]

  stop vetta chasm from from demonstrating [TS]

  when she doesn't demonstrate in a [TS]

  traditional manner that that Kira had [TS]

  expected rather the Vedic hops off of [TS]

  one of the the upper levels of the [TS]

  promenade and hangs herself it's very [TS]

  dramatic scene shocking really and it [TS]

  shocks Kira into realizing she needs to [TS]

  do something about this occupation of [TS]

  the station that that she is complicit [TS]

  in things as long as she just lets [TS]

  things operate in such a way that [TS]

  nothing bad happens so that that is that [TS]

  is a really tough b-side for for the [TS]

  characters now on the planet surface you [TS]

  have to deal with the situation [TS]

  surrounding the Gemma dar who have also [TS]

  crashed on the planet and they're Vorta [TS]

  the Vorta splayed is named Kevin and he [TS]

  has been wounded he requires medical [TS]

  attention and the gym had are not very [TS]

  good at it they they managed to get him [TS]

  medical attention from one of the [TS]

  captured people that they they get on [TS]

  the planet's surface and this is when [TS]

  the Vorta reveals his plan to send the [TS]

  gem head are up against cisco and the [TS]

  Federation but they will go in a very [TS]

  specific path through a valley where [TS]

  it'll be easy to pick off the gem Adar [TS]

  because they can no longer shroud [TS]

  because they're low in ketracel-white [TS]

  the Vorta is concerned that the [TS]

  Jem'Hadar will eventually run out of [TS]

  white and go crazy so he wants to kill [TS]

  all of them and he knows that cisco will [TS]

  have to do it whether cisco wants to [TS]

  cold-blooded it would commit [TS]

  cold-blooded murder on these these [TS]

  troopers or not because the troopers [TS]

  will attack no matter what and follow [TS]

  the Bortas commands so this is this is a [TS]

  very complicated issue for for cisco [TS]

  because he has to protect his people but [TS]

  he knows that this is [TS]

  messed up so I greatly enjoyed this [TS]

  episode as one of the more complicated [TS]

  and nuanced episodes that involve the [TS]

  moral issues surrounding both cisco and [TS]

  major Kira's characters so I feel like [TS]

  it's one of the these stronger episodes [TS]

  in this particular Dominion ark although [TS]

  I would have picked the whole thing if I [TS]

  could have OH [TS]

  could have OH [TS]

  okay I got this so rocks and Shoals is [TS]

  the one where O'Brien tears his pants [TS]

  huh so so they're there in the [TS]

  demi-monde show right they've stolen [TS]

  this Dominion ship a while ago rights [TS]

  artfully put it back together and then [TS]

  they go on this behind your undercover [TS]

  mission behind the lines to destroy this [TS]

  facility and they do that in the [TS]

  previous episode right in this episode [TS]

  opens earth know that the previous [TS]

  episode ends with them being chased by [TS]

  the Dominion this episode opens with [TS]

  them getting their butt kicked by the [TS]

  Dominion and they crash-land into the [TS]

  ocean of this planet and there's a scene [TS]

  right at the beginning where it's a [TS]

  beautiful scene where you've got the [TS]

  Dominion ship in the background sinking [TS]

  slowly into the ocean yep as they're as [TS]

  they're coming on to shore with this [TS]

  like makeshift raft right and they [TS]

  haphazardly like drag the raft and the [TS]

  the sub what supplies they could have [TS]

  gathered on to the beach and like you [TS]

  know Jadzia's been severely injured [TS]

  she's on the raft and they're pulling [TS]

  her up and people are stumbling out of [TS]

  the water it's it's a hell of a swim [TS]

  from from that ship you can tell and and [TS]

  they all just kind of collapse in a heap [TS]

  on the beach and then after a moment [TS]

  O'Brien looks down he's like ah damn it [TS]

  and they're like what I tore my pants [TS]

  and they're like he Cisco's like who are [TS]

  you pants he's like yeah it's or my [TS]

  pants I guess I'm in real trouble now [TS]

  and they all just laughs it's it's so [TS]

  yeah they just burst out laughing [TS]

  because of the absurdity of the [TS]

  situation and it's like I love that line [TS]

  because it's it shows this camaraderie [TS]

  between not just like the the main cast [TS]

  that is present of the of deep space [TS]

  nine but also like these other ancillary [TS]

  characters that have joined them on this [TS]

  mission not all of which will survive [TS]

  the episode but it just sets things up [TS]

  so beautifully and it's just one of [TS]

  those little moments that I cherish [TS]

  which is why I open the episode was it [TS]

  with it but nobody remembers it but me [TS]

  that's cool now it Justin surprised me [TS]

  by focusing on the pants [TS]

  but I feel like there were some other [TS]

  stronger things so hopefully everyone [TS]

  will agree with me and watch it not just [TS]

  because of the pants thing thank you the [TS]

  other that's a great episode like the [TS]

  rest it goes on with this thing with [TS]

  Gemma or and whatever but it's all about [TS]

  the half pans good I'm sure was thinking [TS]

  to Dan more'n pics also from deep space [TS]

  nine these guys what is going on for the [TS]

  uniform this is kind of the it's like [TS]

  way at the end but it's the penultimate [TS]

  chapter in this long arc running in ds9 [TS]

  and it has to do with a kind of minor [TS]

  character but a recurring character [TS]

  which is one of ds9's great strengths [TS]

  and that it brings back these characters [TS]

  over over again and develops these arcs [TS]

  and evolves them over time and that's um [TS]

  lieutenant lieutenant commander former [TS]

  lieutenant commander Michael Eddington [TS]

  who is in an earlier episode revealed to [TS]

  be essentially a Maquis spy mole [TS]

  whatever you want to call them and [TS]

  essentially betrays the rest of the ds9 [TS]

  crew and goes off to join the Maquis and [TS]

  so what we get here is the cisco is sort [TS]

  of you know Moby Dick style Moby Dick [TS]

  style halves is like tracking down [TS]

  Eddington and trying to capture him and [TS]

  he's become obsessed with this and so we [TS]

  get this interesting parable and [TS]

  interesting development in Cisco's [TS]

  character that shows that he's willing [TS]

  to cross certain lines and I think [TS]

  what's great about this is in is that [TS]

  it's a microcosm of ds9 and what I love [TS]

  about the show and that it's not it's [TS]

  willing to paint its protagonists in a [TS]

  more questionable light not things are [TS]

  not black and white I feel like a lot of [TS]

  next generation and even the original [TS]

  series to a certain extent you know [TS]

  portrays our character says the good [TS]

  guys and this is not the case in ds9 and [TS]

  this is a this happens before my [TS]

  favorite episode which I know someone [TS]

  else picked in the pale moonlight but in [TS]

  this case it shows sort of the [TS]

  permeability and flexibility of Cisco's [TS]

  character and willing to give up these [TS]

  Starfleet ideals in order to fulfill [TS]

  essentially this sort of revenge plot [TS]

  there's a lot of great stuff here his [TS]

  interactions with [TS]

  eddington Kenneth Marshall are really [TS]

  just they're loaded right now Avery [TS]

  books gets to bring this sort of [TS]

  gravitas in fury which is what he does [TS]

  so well in this show and they're their [TS]

  arguments back and forth and and [TS]

  Eddington basically draws a parallel [TS]

  with Leigh miserable and calls Cisco's [TS]

  affair for tracking him down and feels [TS]

  like what he's done is not worth Cisco's [TS]

  obsession with him and and Cisco's [TS]

  willing to cross the line and [TS]

  essentially destroy if not you know not [TS]

  like outright kill a bunch of people [TS]

  Maki settlers on a planet but [TS]

  essentially like make their home in [TS]

  hospital and force them to flee which is [TS]

  pretty brutal and you know Eddington [TS]

  essentially gets to play the hero here [TS]

  in the eamon in a conversation with [TS]

  cisco and Dax they talk about how [TS]

  edingtons the hero of his own story and [TS]

  it's not a thing of perspective I feel [TS]

  like we get that much in in the Star [TS]

  Trek series and so you know essentially [TS]

  Eddington gets to make the heroic [TS]

  sacrifice and Cisco uses that against [TS]

  him and so you know watching this [TS]

  episode in a vacuum I mean I've seen all [TS]

  the previous episodes but re watching it [TS]

  in a vacuum Cisco does not come off [TS]

  looking very good here and Eddington [TS]

  does seem more heroic in some fashion [TS]

  and so it's it's you know without having [TS]

  that previous you know run up in in [TS]

  Eddington betraying him it's definitely [TS]

  makes Cisco less sympathetic and so yeah [TS]

  I love this DFC 69 is great at painting [TS]

  the gray shades of Starfleet and in [TS]

  these characters and I think that is a [TS]

  big contrast to the previous episodes I [TS]

  picked which is sort of fun and [TS]

  delightful as this one is a lot grittier [TS]

  and a lot more morally questionable it's [TS]

  got some weird choices the hollow [TS]

  communicators which are rarely seen [TS]

  again they're nice because like then you [TS]

  don't have people arguing out of you [TS]

  screen a lot which is super boring but [TS]

  it's also kind of a weird decision I [TS]

  also really like the sort of submarine [TS]

  movie Oh moshes when the Defiant is [TS]

  damaged and they have to have nog [TS]

  relaying all the orders and calling [TS]

  things out and it makes things seem a [TS]

  lot more tense because the Defiant is [TS]

  not running a full capability and thus [TS]

  it makes it you know the the ensuing [TS]

  battles it has with the Maquis feel like [TS]

  they have higher [TS]

  stakes yeah so this is a really really [TS]

  great episode it's part of that long [TS]

  serialized tradition of ds9 which makes [TS]

  it sometimes hard to sort of jump in and [TS]

  out but I think it really does a nice [TS]

  job of illuminating Cisco's character [TS]

  especially no it's okay there's no [TS]

  there's no pants gift or no pants [TS]

  tearing it thank you thank you thank you [TS]

  alright let's go back to the top of the [TS]

  order David what's your next choice in [TS]

  the fourth round do I go for another [TS]

  Deep Space nine Episode I think I might [TS]

  go for another Deep Space nine Episode [TS]

  steady and another special alternate [TS]

  existence of course because but this one [TS]

  kind of makes sense knowing my tastes [TS]

  it's far beyond the stars where Ben [TS]

  Sisko wakes up and he's in 1950s New [TS]

  York City and he's a science fiction [TS]

  writer named benji who has this [TS]

  wonderful story that he wants to sell [TS]

  about this space station and the crew [TS]

  that works on her and we we get to see [TS]

  all of the regulars out of makeup which [TS]

  is always a treat and playing very 50 [TS]

  stereotype characters and so it's it's [TS]

  this you know the the struggle between [TS]

  the reality of what it would be like to [TS]

  be an african american science fiction [TS]

  writer in the 50s which not an easy row [TS]

  to hoe and and again another wonderful [TS]

  alternate variation it's like getting to [TS]

  see this fictional Space Station right [TS]

  it's it's meta in the best sense of the [TS]

  word and and they all they all seem to [TS]

  have a blast getting to do that late [TS]

  forties early fifties style of acting [TS]

  and and the dialogue and it's just it [TS]

  crackles and I get to bring back Benji [TS]

  Russell a couple of times and he becomes [TS]

  important to cisco's identity and his [TS]

  relationship with the prophets which [TS]

  again is a nice touch and getting [TS]

  getting to comment on science fiction [TS]

  and getting to comment on what they're [TS]

  doing and again it's that tightly [TS]

  focused writing staff that all stuck [TS]

  together alright [TS]

  Justin what do you have choices choices [TS]

  okay so for this next one I'll allow me [TS]

  to preface this by reading a sentence [TS]

  from memory alpha under the trivia [TS]

  exception for this episode which reads [TS]

  this was the first Star Trek two-part [TS]

  episode with different names for Part [TS]

  one and Part two so it is indeed a [TS]

  two-part episode now even though their [TS]

  name different no no memory memory alpha [TS]

  doesn't get to call it a two-part [TS]

  episode if it doesn't have part 1 or [TS]

  part 2 in the name it you have to pick [TS]

  one of them and not the other man Jason [TS]

  pick the one with pants in it the one [TS]

  with the most ripped pants Justin I [TS]

  guess I'll have to go with improbable [TS]

  cause from deep space nine then all [TS]

  right the one the one where Garak blows [TS]

  up his own shop when he gets wind of [TS]

  assassins on his tail and decides to [TS]

  involve odo in the only way he knows how [TS]

  I love Garak I love me some Garak as [TS]

  somebody said earlier yeah yeah it's [TS]

  it's a great part one of a two-part [TS]

  episode well the die is cast the second [TS]

  part is available 04 s.o loves me some [TS]

  odo whoever once whoever wants to do [TS]

  that aleem okay I can make your [TS]

  husband's very happy by picking at the [TS]

  die is cast now oh yeah I don't do that [TS]

  oh there's a TNG episode I want to [TS]

  choose crud okay so I'm gonna I'm gonna [TS]

  go with the ds9 trend make Jason shake [TS]

  his head and wonder even more for the [TS]

  continued ds9 episodes or tos and PNG [TS]

  episodes for me go right ahead I am [TS]

  picking it's only a Paper Moon um so [TS]

  this is this is a holodeck episode I [TS]

  don't remember is this the first [TS]

  holodeck episode may be the only [TS]

  holodeck episode and but it is a there's [TS]

  a war going on and one of our characters [TS]

  who we have seen grow up loses a leg in [TS]

  this war and nog returns to deep space [TS]

  nine after you know being in rehab for a [TS]

  little bit and it's an episode about him [TS]

  dealing with the post traumatic stress [TS]

  that comes with being in a war and being [TS]

  severely injured and having to kind of [TS]

  change your life and I I just think that [TS]

  it's such a neat way to frame it I think [TS]

  it's a topic that that we could talk [TS]

  about more just kind of in general [TS]

  outside of like gritty shows and um I [TS]

  like Vic I like Vic alike I like the [TS]

  nightclub I like the singing I like Las [TS]

  Vegas I don't know and as results um the [TS]

  holodeck this program runs on on in the [TS]

  holosuite in into all of forever for nog [TS]

  and the crews and they can come drop in [TS]

  and I just I think it's kind of a sweet [TS]

  episode and I think that it's it's an [TS]

  important episode solid that's a last [TS]

  season of Deep Space nine Episode two so [TS]

  there's a as read acts in that one just [TS]

  yeah that's unfortunate all these Deep [TS]

  Space nine Episode Scott what do you [TS]

  have what did face 9 episode did you [TS]

  choose Scott well I I am I will the die [TS]

  is cast haha ah no I won't do that I [TS]

  will continue the Deep Space nine trend [TS]

  though and pick a season 1 episode of [TS]

  deep space 9 which is one of my favorite [TS]

  episodes featuring one of my favorite [TS]

  characters Kira nerese Oh duet damn it [TS]

  which is just a fantastic episode if you [TS]

  haven't seen it it involves so [TS]

  Cardassian who is an alleged war [TS]

  criminal who Kira ethics has done [TS]

  horrible things and he's masquerading as [TS]

  this clerk and he convinces her [TS]

  basically that he is in fact there's war [TS]

  criminal but it turns out that he was [TS]

  not he is the clerk who was working at [TS]

  the basic concentration camp and he felt [TS]

  so much guilt because he couldn't stop [TS]

  the massacres so he has the psychosis [TS]

  that makes him think he is this war [TS]

  criminal it's just such a great there's [TS]

  there's so much great one-on-one acting [TS]

  and and the scenes between Kyra and this [TS]

  guy it's fantastic Canadian actor Harris [TS]

  ulan who is excellent and this was you [TS]

  know I've been watching deep space night [TS]

  at that point and going wow they they [TS]

  may just pull this off this is an [TS]

  interesting cast this is an interesting [TS]

  setup this is fine and that came on and [TS]

  blew me away because I was going to be [TS]

  my next choice and i love i love a good [TS]

  interrogation episode i love a good one [TS]

  on one i mean that's that's it's a very [TS]

  theatrical thing big shock and this this [TS]

  was a story which and they figured this [TS]

  out pretty quickly on deep space 9 this [TS]

  was a story they could only do on deep [TS]

  space 9 it there's a weight to the [TS]

  history between their two races and and [TS]

  especially with her personal history you [TS]

  couldn't necessarily have just done that [TS]

  on the spur of the moment on the other [TS]

  shows to that point and but just beyond [TS]

  being a good concept the the crackle of [TS]

  the dialogue and they're clearly [TS]

  relishing getting to do this kind of a [TS]

  an episode just beautiful and that's [TS]

  scene where he breaks down and he admits [TS]

  it was the clerk at the variance it's [TS]

  really good I was torn i put one deep [TS]

  space 9 episode on my list and I was [TS]

  torn between that one and this one [TS]

  they're very similar in some ways [TS]

  because the next season they came back [TS]

  and they did another Kira episode that [TS]

  is very good but but that one's a great [TS]

  one great episode but I'm not gonna pick [TS]

  that episode because there's only Deep [TS]

  Space nine in this round so far and [TS]

  that's madness on the original series a [TS]

  little bit and pick the I've now picked [TS]

  the four episodes at the top of my list [TS]

  I've gotten them all you know the [TS]

  trouble with tribbles is a very funny [TS]

  episode and you could make the argument [TS]

  that it is the funny episode of Star [TS]

  Trek but that doesn't give enough credit [TS]

  to one of my very favorite Star Trek [TS]

  episodes a piece of the action in which [TS]

  Kirk and Spock beamed down to the [TS]

  gangster planet and cause a more trouble [TS]

  Vic tape [TS]

  back from alice is one of the gangsters [TS]

  in it he they teach a kid they like [TS]

  bribe a kid to fake that he's that he's [TS]

  pert they banned up in zoot suits they [TS]

  invent the game of fizzbin scotty [TS]

  threatens learns to talk like a gangster [TS]

  so we can threaten them from above on [TS]

  the enterprise you know and they even [TS]

  have not a bad so much of the original [TS]

  series is like parallel planetary [TS]

  evolution and that's why we have this [TS]

  planet of romans and things like that no [TS]

  there was a federation ship that left a [TS]

  book behind about gangsters and they [TS]

  thought it was great and so they decided [TS]

  to form their whole society based on [TS]

  that book and this is did you do [TS]

  complete failure of the Federation that [TS]

  kirk's tips and do they don't have to [TS]

  break the prime directive it's already [TS]

  been broken it's great so it's absurd [TS]

  and funny and there's some light action [TS]

  in it but it's just all comedy I find it [TS]

  strange apparently Gena Roddenberry [TS]

  hated the comedy episodes and they they [TS]

  stop doing them but mid 2nd season [TS]

  within a three-episode span you have [TS]

  this and the trouble with tribbles [TS]

  because i believe Gene Roddenberry said [TS]

  get them get get them out of the way and [TS]

  never do any more of these comedy [TS]

  episodes and they're both great so I [TS]

  love a piece of the action and I love [TS]

  that it's a very sly satire on on pop [TS]

  culture and trends right it's it's the [TS]

  imitative society going hey this is [TS]

  really cool we're all gonna do it and [TS]

  and it's it's so lightly done it's it's [TS]

  because it doesn't hit you over the head [TS]

  with that part of the cano but at the [TS]

  end McCoy leaves his communicator behind [TS]

  and they realize they're gonna fix there [TS]

  in 20 years and they're all going to be [TS]

  wearing like gold shirts and blue shirts [TS]

  it's just how it's gonna be and I mean [TS]

  it's it is a pitch-perfect spoof of the [TS]

  untouchables which had been popular a [TS]

  few years earlier and and I just I love [TS]

  the names bela oxmyx and Jojo cracka [TS]

  alright with a robo pick Joe is picking [TS]

  a Voyager episode called hope and fear [TS]

  hope and fear is one of those voyager [TS]

  episodes where they think they're going [TS]

  to go home but they're totally not going [TS]

  to go home and there are a lot of those [TS]

  so it's not interesting on that level [TS]

  what is interesting is how the crew [TS]

  deals with trying to think about what it [TS]

  means to go home notably seven of nine [TS]

  and Jane way and how that comes into [TS]

  their relationship with one another [TS]

  because seven of nine isn't really from [TS]

  Earth in in the traditional sense it's [TS]

  not the home that she knows she's not as [TS]

  jazzed by going back as everyone else's [TS]

  everyone else is super jazzed btdubs but [TS]

  the the prospect of going there is not [TS]

  as alluring to her and this makes her [TS]

  deeply suspicious of the convenient [TS]

  alien who was able to conveniently [TS]

  decipher the transmission which [TS]

  conveniently led them to the very [TS]

  convenient Federation ship with the very [TS]

  convenient faster than warp drive the [TS]

  the quantum slipstream drive and because [TS]

  of her suspicions that it helps them [TS]

  avoid some possible calamity although [TS]

  you know this is this isn't Janeway's [TS]

  first rodeo why there's she doesn't beam [TS]

  everybody immediately over to the alien [TS]

  ship as the alien had intended and this [TS]

  this leaves them with a scenario that [TS]

  only Janeway and seven are captured and [TS]

  when they're captured they have a scene [TS]

  in the brig where they they have a very [TS]

  heartfelt moments where they are using a [TS]

  micro filament whatever to rearrange the [TS]

  things it doesn't matter what that is [TS]

  it's just a reason for them to talk to [TS]

  one another and it's acted superbly by [TS]

  kate mulgrew and Jeri Ryan where they [TS]

  have to play off of not just the [TS]

  feelings in this episode but the [TS]

  feelings since her introduction in the [TS]

  series which is not something that had [TS]

  happened very often in Voyager where [TS]

  people are referring to things that had [TS]

  happened in the past but it is it is a [TS]

  nice way to go on that little trip of [TS]

  what of what it meant for her so that's [TS]

  why I quite enjoy this episode and not [TS]

  so much the actual possibility of them [TS]

  going home as ridiculous as that seems [TS]

  Thank You robo joe and robo dan selects [TS]

  from the next generation yeah they're [TS]

  steering away from deep space nine at [TS]

  last he he selects second chances in [TS]

  which we discover that Will Riker due to [TS]

  a transporter accident has been [TS]

  duplicated [TS]

  and another Will Riker has been staying [TS]

  stranded on a planet for eight years [TS]

  second chances is a weird one but kind [TS]

  of a great idea essentially the premise [TS]

  of this next generation episode is that [TS]

  eight years ago Riker was a lieutenant [TS]

  and he was helping evacuate a station [TS]

  and so the modern-day enterprise goes [TS]

  back because they have an opportunity to [TS]

  sort of check out the data logs from the [TS]

  station which they really want they [TS]

  beamed down and they find that [TS]

  lieutenant Riker from eight years ago [TS]

  was stuck there and so essentially there [TS]

  are two Rikers one is is the Riker who [TS]

  was left behind after this and has sort [TS]

  of survived on his own like castaway [TS]

  style in the station for eight years [TS]

  he's all bedraggled and everything and [TS]

  the other is the Will Riker we we know [TS]

  and maybe love and so this entire [TS]

  episode is kind of a showcase for [TS]

  Jonathan Frakes to play these two [TS]

  characters off of each other because [TS]

  they are the same person you know very [TS]

  fun early on fundamentally we learned [TS]

  that these are there not just like it's [TS]

  not just like eating clones right like [TS]

  they are fundamentally the same person [TS]

  who not so much took a different choice [TS]

  but took two different paths their lives [TS]

  branch at a point and so you know we'll [TS]

  went on and got his promotion and he [TS]

  broke up with Deanna and you know he [TS]

  makes commander and he decides to say on [TS]

  the enterprise instead of getting his [TS]

  own command and Thomas Riker is you know [TS]

  was kind of still this brat even though [TS]

  they're the same age he's kind of still [TS]

  this young more brash more reckless [TS]

  version of record who hasn't had to take [TS]

  on all that responsibility and so we [TS]

  kind of see them class throughout this [TS]

  episode and really the plot is is window [TS]

  dressing here this is really about the [TS]

  choices we make and how that impacts our [TS]

  lives and so we see you know the younger [TS]

  or the lieutenant Riker get involved [TS]

  with Deanna again still have all the [TS]

  feelings because he's been thinking [TS]

  about her for eight years while he's [TS]

  been trapped on this station and he's a [TS]

  little more reckless he's used to doing [TS]

  things his own way and he and Riker [TS]

  clash a whole bunch because you know [TS]

  Will Riker has grown up and become the [TS]

  first officer and is part of the chain [TS]

  of command and used to giving orders and [TS]

  all that stuff and and Thomas Riker has [TS]

  been used to doing things on his own and [TS]

  so I really enjoyed these two facets [TS]

  this same character and Riker is a [TS]

  charming likeable guy I think and so [TS]

  having a second version of him is it [TS]

  makes for a really interesting dynamic [TS]

  especially when the commander Riker has [TS]

  to order him around and he sort of takes [TS]

  umbrage at that but what I think is [TS]

  really well done here is that you know [TS]

  you compare it with some of like I think [TS]

  about classic Trek episodes um there's [TS]

  was it I remember which episode there's [TS]

  at least there's some episodes where [TS]

  there's transport accidents and you get [TS]

  like duplicates of people so we have the [TS]

  episode where there's like evil Kirk and [TS]

  good kirk and it's like that would have [TS]

  been the cop out right is like have some [TS]

  of this be like evil Riker and you know [TS]

  the fact that they're both essentially [TS]

  still Will Riker and they're both good [TS]

  people makes it far more interesting and [TS]

  you know at the moment we just sort of [TS]

  the climax of the episode where they're [TS]

  crossing this bridge and the lieutenant [TS]

  Riker it gives way lieutenant Riker is [TS]

  like falling down he's holding on and [TS]

  and Commander Riker has to pull him up [TS]

  and and Lieutenant records like now I'll [TS]

  just let go you know one of us has to [TS]

  get through and do this mission and you [TS]

  know commander Riker is is he not [TS]

  willing to leave his crew member behind [TS]

  even though he he doesn't really like [TS]

  him you know the lieutenant Riker [TS]

  version himself he still you know he's [TS]

  not a bad guy he's gonna save him and so [TS]

  it's really an illuminating look at the [TS]

  character of Riker I think you know we [TS]

  have a brief aside with data and Worf [TS]

  where Worf talks about how the reason [TS]

  they might not get along is that you see [TS]

  something in yourself that you don't [TS]

  really like about yourself and that you [TS]

  know that's clear here even though I [TS]

  think part of commander Rikers you know [TS]

  commander Rikers regret here is that he [TS]

  is not still that sort of more [TS]

  uninhibited fellow I think he also sort [TS]

  of a you know takes what he has and in [TS]

  sort of embraces his own you know that [TS]

  the experience he's he's had since then [TS]

  so I think it's a great episode it's [TS]

  another really great like Prem here's a [TS]

  great premise let's just sort of explore [TS]

  what this happens and I and I [TS]

  and as with the cause in fact I like the [TS]

  idea that these guys are just like [TS]

  Thomas Riker as he eventually dubs [TS]

  himself just goes off into the world [TS]

  here and we see him briefly reemerge on [TS]

  ds9 where he takes some choices that are [TS]

  very unwilling or like and that's kind [TS]

  of a fun exploration of that character [TS]

  as well so yeah this one gets a thumbs [TS]

  up that's a fun episode it is fun good [TS]

  job Robo Dan those are those are fine [TS]

  upsets nah but like they're not the die [TS]

  is cast no they're not he's still on the [TS]

  board they haven't skyped you yet Justin [TS]

  if you want to take two rounds to pick [TS]

  both parts otherwise maybe not well lit [TS]

  let us enter the fifth round oh is this [TS]

  the crazy round Scott what did you think [TS]

  I was gonna say I don't I was excited we [TS]

  would sound very dramatic but well this [TS]

  may be our last round oh I know David [TS]

  what do you have well I'm gonna save a [TS]

  lot of good ones for the lightning round [TS]

  yeah and I'm gonna pick what I think is [TS]

  the second best q episode all good [TS]

  things it's it's a very very tricky time [TS]

  travel paradox it is told in through at [TS]

  least three time periods the past the [TS]

  present the far future it has a slight [TS]

  hiccup at the end that doesn't quite [TS]

  make sense but i forgive it because it's [TS]

  just such a damn good story and it's fun [TS]

  to see sort of the before Farpoint and [TS]

  then the present day and then the future [TS]

  where everybody supposedly winds up and [TS]

  how how their lives have all changed and [TS]

  they're coming coming back together and [TS]

  it has you know it's the series finale [TS]

  it has grace notes from all different [TS]

  episodes and has a little touch of [TS]

  family which is what one of my favorite [TS]

  episodes it has touches of the early the [TS]

  early seasons and you can you get to see [TS]

  Tasha Yar again which is nice to do in [TS]

  your series finale right Ron Moore and [TS]

  brannon braga had been working on the [TS]

  script for Star Trek generations for [TS]

  like almost that whole year while doing [TS]

  the show yeah and I mean [TS]

  l they get the assignment to write the [TS]

  finale they bang that thing out and [TS]

  about what two weeks or something and [TS]

  that is a brilliant episode followed by [TS]

  this movie that they worked on that is [TS]

  kind of okay hey not right but it's got [TS]

  that's the example of like it's all the [TS]

  pressure and we gotta get William [TS]

  Shatner in here in the original cast and [TS]

  it's going to feature and they kind of [TS]

  whereas when they were unencumbered by [TS]

  all of that oversight and concern and [TS]

  could just knock out the TNG episode [TS]

  they did a great one and it's just fun [TS]

  right it's a rip snortin adventure it [TS]

  touches all the right the notes to of [TS]

  for a series finale series finales are [TS]

  hard to do right and this one does a [TS]

  great job it calls back to the first [TS]

  episode it tells you what might be a [TS]

  future for all of them and then it makes [TS]

  you feel that that last scene where [TS]

  where card comes to the poker game is so [TS]

  well done so good yes and another nice [TS]

  touch is that in each era as he as [TS]

  Picard is flashing from era to era it's [TS]

  not it's not the entire cast in every [TS]

  year right you get a little bit of the [TS]

  cast here a little bit of the cast there [TS]

  a little bit of the cast there and it's [TS]

  you know it's it's a very nicely [TS]

  balanced you find out that Picard and [TS]

  crusher got married and then got [TS]

  divorced which was a nice touch yep but [TS]

  yeah it's it's my favorite time travel [TS]

  adventure in next generation and my [TS]

  second favorite q episode which is also [TS]

  i mean it is kind of a quantum leap e [TS]

  episode 2 so maybe maybe they should [TS]

  just should have done that with q i [TS]

  don't know yeah it's a solid episode [TS]

  because scott data and he's alive in the [TS]

  future just like he definitely is alive [TS]

  in the feud yep that's right like death [TS]

  why was the reason why he wouldn't be [TS]

  exactly yeah he's a backup brand and [TS]

  there's positronic androids out there [TS]

  you just get a get your dune buggy drive [TS]

  around you'll find one Justin hmm what [TS]

  do you have well this is a tough one [TS]

  since it's the last official round [TS]

  perhaps so I've got to go with a Voyager [TS]

  episode and it's a Voyager episode [TS]

  that's a bit unlike most other voyager [TS]

  episodes [TS]

  his flashback the one in which who [TS]

  Janeway enters to vox mind and they're [TS]

  trying to do something but something [TS]

  goes wrong and they go into his memories [TS]

  of serving as an incident or lieutenant [TS]

  on the Excelsior with Captain Sulu and [TS]

  George Takei to kaiser and most of the [TS]

  cast that was on the bridge with him [TS]

  during the undiscovered country yes they [TS]

  return they are on the set that is [TS]

  incredible I mean it's not the same set [TS]

  they actually had to build this set in [TS]

  two weeks whereas the original excelsior [TS]

  bridge took like 12 weeks and much more [TS]

  money to build and it looks fantastic [TS]

  and they pull all of it off like it's [TS]

  it's just like it's just like there's [TS]

  this other series in another parallel [TS]

  universe where they decided to just [TS]

  follow the adventures of the Excelsior [TS]

  with Sulu as the captain and they just [TS]

  plucked an episode out and just plopped [TS]

  it down into are universally like here [TS]

  you go and it's wonderful it's [TS]

  absolutely wonderful because it works [TS]

  and there's a battle with some Klingons [TS]

  and and it's just it's just a delight [TS]

  aleem what do you have all right well [TS]

  I'm gonna go with the one that I didn't [TS]

  pick last round the die is cast crap i [TS]

  don't even have this one written down i [TS]

  didn't look on Memory Alpha because I [TS]

  thought someone would take it in like [TS]

  around one or two and I was just like [TS]

  I'm not even going to try to fight for [TS]

  it but nobody's picked it yet I don't [TS]

  know what's wrong with all of us but the [TS]

  measure of him oh it was on my list [TS]

  from the next generation and and in [TS]

  which the personhood a datos personhood [TS]

  is up for debate and it becomes a trial [TS]

  and Riker has to argue and to the court [TS]

  that data is not a person and is [TS]

  property and it's a wonderful episode [TS]

  it's it's it's so well done and it's one [TS]

  of those really deeply thought-provoking [TS]

  episodes and which sometimes sometimes [TS]

  Star Trek doesn't get quite right it got [TS]

  it right this is a season 2 episode it [TS]

  is perhaps the first great good [TS]

  generation yes yeah absolutely [TS]

  absolutely and Melinda Snodgrass wrote [TS]

  it as a spec script and not only did [TS]

  they make it but they hired her so yeah [TS]

  good script yeah and we learned that [TS]

  it's easier to turn data off than it is [TS]

  to turn off my iPhone well you don't [TS]

  have to hold the button as long it's no [TS]

  doubt we just tap it lays off yep which [TS]

  is a great moment but you should really [TS]

  have to like hold down the thing on his [TS]

  back and then like rub the top of his [TS]

  head to shut him right like turned his [TS]

  head a couple of degrees or so in your [TS]

  lobe leoch that's why he doesn't do the [TS]

  carol burnett sign off because he would [TS]

  turn yourself off indeed oh that's a [TS]

  great episode yeah one thing I want to [TS]

  call out about this episode is the [TS]

  performance that Jonathan Franks gives [TS]

  because he's tasked with you know yeah [TS]

  through through ridiculous ridiculous [TS]

  script match imaginations of well yeah [TS]

  the next highest ranking must be the [TS]

  prosecutor like all right but still [TS]

  agree he has to process he has to prove [TS]

  adversarial situation he has to prove [TS]

  the data is not alive even though he [TS]

  doesn't believe that and he does a good [TS]

  job he has to prove he has to do his [TS]

  best work yeah and he's ordered to do a [TS]

  good job because she's like if I don't [TS]

  believe you're doing the best job you [TS]

  can i'll just call this whole thing off [TS]

  yeah and like the the premise about that [TS]

  is absolutely nonsensical and absurd and [TS]

  whatever but it leads to such a [TS]

  wonderful performance by him in it [TS]

  because you can see like he's [TS]

  doing this cuz he has to do it more or [TS]

  everything's gonna fall apart but he [TS]

  hates doing it and that comes across so [TS]

  so well I love it it's a great episode [TS]

  yep it is and at the end I actually kind [TS]

  of like the the bad guy in that episode [TS]

  is Bruce Maddox who is the researcher [TS]

  and he's a complicated character he [TS]

  wants to study data and doesn't think [TS]

  that data is alive but you know he is [TS]

  trying to understand data and data [TS]

  doesn't hate him so much just think he's [TS]

  misguided and at the end there's that [TS]

  nice moment where he refers to data as [TS]

  he instead of it and he gets called on [TS]

  it and because he says he's remarkable [TS]

  is me and and data says if you further [TS]

  your research I will be happy to help [TS]

  you like he's not you know you did to me [TS]

  jerk like no I'll help you yeah you just [TS]

  aren't you you don't put me at risk for [TS]

  your research right you've learned and I [TS]

  will stay in touch email me yeah and [TS]

  later in the series like way way later [TS]

  data actually is seen recording log [TS]

  entries to send to to Maddox yeah and [TS]

  it's just this super subtle thing that [TS]

  ties that together like several seasons [TS]

  later it's really yeah yeah they were [TS]

  they were getting really good at that on [TS]

  that show yeah Scott what's your last [TS]

  pic i will pick an episode that tells [TS]

  the classic story of boy meets Gorn it [TS]

  is arena series [TS]

  captain kirk and gore and beamed down to [TS]

  a planet to enter one shall leave my [TS]

  money's on Kirk and even I love this [TS]

  episode it's just an iconic original [TS]

  series episode the Gorn is lumbering and [TS]

  ridiculous a Captain Kirk's solution to [TS]

  make a cannon out of diamonds and sulfur [TS]

  coal it's just crazy asst cold that's [TS]

  right Anna bamboo to yep hmm it doesn't [TS]

  make much sense but i like it so much [TS]

  and even better when they redid all of [TS]

  the effects for the blu-ray release they [TS]

  went to the trouble of making the Gorn [TS]

  blink it's fantastic yeah yep and and [TS]

  the rest of the crew gets to watch TV [TS]

  from half a just watch it on TV just [TS]

  like us let me do my impression of the [TS]

  Gorn that's it spot on also ass least a [TS]

  foreign land land of lost basically the [TS]

  same thing um yeah that's a fun that's a [TS]

  fun episode it's I like the constraint [TS]

  of it it's just like you know the setup [TS]

  is just we're gonna we don't want your [TS]

  spaceships to fight so we're gonna let [TS]

  your two captains fight it out and we [TS]

  basically they put the solutions in the [TS]

  in the field they're at Vasquez rocks [TS]

  and Kirk figures it out which leads to [TS]

  Spock having to explain the science to [TS]

  us he oh yes if there was only a small [TS]

  quantity of coal he says to McCoy [TS]

  because the Spock narrates most of it [TS]

  it's pretty funny look look dr. a bamboo [TS]

  to yeah it's great it's great it's like [TS]

  Darmok only with more cannons and and [TS]

  and and red shirts yeah he whips his [TS]

  shirt okay I am going to pick again I'm [TS]

  really kind of overcorrecting here but [TS]

  I'm literally just picking the next one [TS]

  on my list overcorrecting for scotch [TS]

  chastising me for not picking original [TS]

  series episodes I'm gonna pick another [TS]

  original series episode even though I've [TS]

  got a Voyager a deep space nine and i [TS]

  had an enterprise on my list the next [TS]

  one down your heart Jason I did get the [TS]

  inner light with sniped for me I didn't [TS]

  get to pick that but I am going to pick [TS]

  balance of terror yeah which is a [TS]

  classic submarine [TS]

  a story basically where the Romulans are [TS]

  in one ship and the enterprise's in the [TS]

  other it's it's claustrophobic mark [TS]

  leonard is the captain of the Romulan [TS]

  ship it is i watch this not too long ago [TS]

  with my family as like this is a good [TS]

  episode and we watched it and it's like [TS]

  it's so good it's so tense and you [TS]

  really feel for mark leonard he is the [TS]

  bad guy because he's the enemy captain [TS]

  but it's like it's it's a cold war [TS]

  situation that you know and he says at [TS]

  the end i think in another universe I [TS]

  could have called you friend to Kirk but [TS]

  and that they try to outwit each other [TS]

  and there's drama and there's some [TS]

  personal drama in it and it is it's such [TS]

  a great episode it is it is wonderfully [TS]

  done yeah that was on my list too yeah [TS]

  it's just it's such a good episode and [TS]

  and the reveal when they show what [TS]

  Romulans look like and the crew is like [TS]

  wow there's a racism because they think [TS]

  it's marcus style there's the racist [TS]

  crewman right and then and then of [TS]

  course the what happens in the end is [TS]

  that spock races into the phasor control [TS]

  room and saves the racist crew man who [TS]

  hates him because he's got pointed ears [TS]

  and then of course there's also the [TS]

  tragic bookends which is it the episode [TS]

  begins with a wedding that gets called [TS]

  off because of Red Alert and at the end [TS]

  we discovered that there has been one [TS]

  fatality during the battle and it is the [TS]

  the groom and Kirk has to go to the [TS]

  chapel and console the bride it is ah [TS]

  and uh and he was just about to retire [TS]

  the next day yeah I'm sure he was yeah [TS]

  oh it's so great it's a very good [TS]

  episode alright we have we have two [TS]

  robotic picks left Joe's Robo pic is a [TS]

  Voyager episode interesting message in a [TS]

  bottle ah sure that's good one it's good [TS]

  one message in a bottle is another fun [TS]

  episode of voyager it is a very light [TS]

  and tone it does have some serious plot [TS]

  elements that they use to move things [TS]

  forwards the corrosion network is used [TS]

  to reach across from the Delta Quadrant [TS]

  to the Alpha Quadrant and for the first [TS]

  time reconnect with a federation ship [TS]

  the message that they send is too [TS]

  garbled they have to send [TS]

  gram for reasons that are dumb but they [TS]

  use that to justify sending the doctor [TS]

  across space to a federation ship that [TS]

  they detect on the very edge of this [TS]

  network and that is the prometheus a [TS]

  special fancy prototype which has been [TS]

  taken over by Romulans and that's not so [TS]

  great now this is an interesting episode [TS]

  because the doctor has to play off of [TS]

  the ship Sony mhm played by Andy Dick [TS]

  back when used to could still cast Andy [TS]

  Dick and things and they have to work [TS]

  together with the doctor being the more [TS]

  experienced of the two and the the Andy [TS]

  Dick character being much more like the [TS]

  original doctor was when he was [TS]

  activated in and admiring Robert Picardo [TS]

  doctor and his abilities from being in [TS]

  the Delta Quadrant now they do of course [TS]

  managed to successfully take the ship [TS]

  back over and reconnect with the [TS]

  Federation and the doctor is sent back [TS]

  with some additional information and [TS]

  that that it's fun it's fun it's just [TS]

  fun just enjoy it whatever it's not a [TS]

  big deal thanks Joe and Dan's robo pic [TS]

  is an interesting choice it is well I [TS]

  remember my thoughts when I watched this [TS]

  episode but dan has chosen the TNG [TS]

  episode disaster the last episode I [TS]

  picked this kind of an oddball one [TS]

  though I guess you could argue they've [TS]

  all been sort of oddball disaster is [TS]

  season 5 episode 5 of the next [TS]

  generation and it's kind of an homage to [TS]

  disaster movies basically the enterprise [TS]

  is incapacitated by a MacGuffin quantum [TS]

  filament but it's a MacGuffin and a [TS]

  whole bunch of characters are sort of [TS]

  separated and isolated in various parts [TS]

  of the ship and what is what I enjoy [TS]

  about this and this was one of the other [TS]

  first episodes I ever saw along with [TS]

  cause and effect but what I enjoy about [TS]

  this is that it's a heavily [TS]

  character-driven episode where we get to [TS]

  see pairings that we don't often see [TS]

  throughout the rest of the show and [TS]

  characters are put into different [TS]

  situations so for example Geordi and dr. [TS]

  crusher are stuck in a cargo bay and [TS]

  need to engineer / [TS]

  ash medical their way out of a problem [TS]

  Troy is the ranking officer on the [TS]

  bridge along with O'Brien and Edson row [TS]

  and we have Worf is in ten-forward and [TS]

  ends up having to deliver miles and [TS]

  caicos baby and Picard is stuck in a [TS]

  turbolift with a bunch of kids and this [TS]

  is a lot of fun because all of these [TS]

  people are kind of out of their element [TS]

  here Picard doesn't like kids Worf is [TS]

  only taking a emergency medical class [TS]

  Troy does not have command skills even [TS]

  though she is the ranking officer and so [TS]

  it's a lot of fun to kind of watch these [TS]

  characters deal with situations that are [TS]

  out of the everyday i think that there's [TS]

  a lot of good seed sown here for future [TS]

  development of these characters [TS]

  including Troy eventually taking on [TS]

  command responsibility and there's a the [TS]

  wharf and delivering Molly O'Brien bit [TS]

  in particular is wonderful and it's [TS]

  referenced in a ds9 episode which I [TS]

  actually did an episode of random check [TS]

  on with Scott in that O'Brien hearing [TS]

  the second baby O'Brien baby is our war [TS]

  fearing the second O'Brien baby's on its [TS]

  way announces that he will take a [TS]

  vacation ever so he is not present when [TS]

  it is born and yeah it this is not like [TS]

  a particularly memorable episode in [TS]

  terms of plot or what have you but [TS]

  having these various characters in weird [TS]

  situations is kind of delightful and I [TS]

  will never forget Worf announcing to [TS]

  Keiko you are now fully dilated and may [TS]

  now give birth that line gets bandied [TS]

  about in my family way too much [TS]

  counselor Troi takes command of the [TS]

  bridge yeah and this is like her first [TS]

  taste of command and it has a profound [TS]

  impact on her throughout the rest of [TS]

  like the series in the movies so thumbs [TS]

  up damn right yeah it's a good episode [TS]

  and Picard's trapped in the turbolift [TS]

  with the kids and yeah crew with all [TS]

  this well I mean see your when Alan [TS]

  disaster movie is what it is it's it's a [TS]

  very smart use of all those troops and a [TS]

  very smart use of each of the characters [TS]

  that way cmi memory of this episode is [TS]

  that I watched it and said yeah that was [TS]

  a disaster but [TS]

  that's me thank you Dan and thanks [TS]

  everybody else that is five rounds so [TS]

  that is a lot of episodes so if you're [TS]

  looking to do like a big binge of Star [TS]

  Trek episodes we just have picked 35 but [TS]

  we are not done yet because now I'm [TS]

  gonna ask everybody to tell me what's [TS]

  left on your list that you didn't pick [TS]

  David all right the crazy Rand space [TS]

  seed come on yep space seed dagger of [TS]

  the mind where we we get kind of an [TS]

  interesting story but we also get one of [TS]

  the few reasonably intelligent human [TS]

  being female characters from the [TS]

  enterprise dealing with Kirk which is [TS]

  kind of nice conscience of the king [TS]

  because I just you know it's theatrical [TS]

  oh yeah devil in the dark which is a [TS]

  beautiful twist on a monster story where [TS]

  we are looking at the monsters yeah I [TS]

  love that one that was on my list a [TS]

  doomsday machine because there are few [TS]

  things more entertaining than watching [TS]

  William Windham go insane yep yesteryear [TS]

  from the animated series we only [TS]

  animated series episode I'd consider it [TS]

  is not good because I was famous trained [TS]

  I was trying to find one from each one [TS]

  in DC Fontana wrote it come on well that [TS]

  just means good well knew it's true from [TS]

  next generation Sarek wow yeah partly [TS]

  because it's a wonderful conceit first [TS]

  story a wonderful reason to have him [TS]

  there and a wonderful mind meld sequence [TS]

  with with Picard keeping Sarek's sanity [TS]

  together again one one of the best [TS]

  moments of Stewart yesterday's [TS]

  enterprise yeah really good alternate [TS]

  universe thing captain's holiday which I [TS]

  just enjoy because it's it's Picard gets [TS]

  to do kind of a little raiders of the [TS]

  lost ark bit a little bit family relics [TS]

  which has they find Montgomery Scott [TS]

  yeah and it's it's not so much that it's [TS]

  a great plot it's a fine plot but it's a [TS]

  wonderful meditation on heroes and [TS]

  mortality and and he does a lovely job [TS]

  and they recreate the bridge of the [TS]

  enterprise [TS]

  and then because I like fun episodes of [TS]

  Fistful of datas which is ridiculous but [TS]

  I love it starship mine where Picard [TS]

  gets to do die hard on a spaceship with [TS]

  with a nice twist that instead of just [TS]

  you know the danger of the terrorists [TS]

  trying to steal the enterprise while [TS]

  it's empty there's also a cleaning [TS]

  process that if he's not careful we'll [TS]

  kill him spaceclaim which is great it's [TS]

  a nice twist it's good to see the Tuvok [TS]

  gave up that life of crime Deep Space [TS]

  nine Deep Space nine I could just pick [TS]

  the whole damn series the serialization [TS]

  was brilliant but if I had the only two [TS]

  that are left that I actually like [TS]

  identified through the looking glass [TS]

  because that's the first trip back to [TS]

  the mirror universe and because i love [TS]

  60s spy TV our man Bashir which is a [TS]

  holodeck adventure goes go on horribly [TS]

  wrong and and avery brooks getting to be [TS]

  the super mad Bond villain which I think [TS]

  that's just beautiful and I didn't have [TS]

  any Enterprise episodes left but my the [TS]

  only 2 i'd left from Voyager tuvok's and [TS]

  Neelix's lungs now um flat flashback and [TS]

  again this will not surprise anyone [TS]

  bride of kaotica sure huh cuz you know [TS]

  forties Pope adventure Justin what about [TS]

  you the die is chaos so the die is cast [TS]

  we'll come back to that let's start with [TS]

  the next generation so one of my my last [TS]

  topic that I didn't get from the next [TS]

  generation was schisms now because it's [TS]

  a very good episode but because it [TS]

  starts with data reading his poetry and [TS]

  I just I just know the data's poetry Oh [TS]

  two spots so good so the deal is [TS]

  countess I love spotty taxonomic [TS]

  nomenclature an endothermic quad redhead [TS]

  corn fritters by Nature yeah I could [TS]

  read the whole thing but well maybe [TS]

  later like like you yesterday's [TS]

  enterprise a solid solid episode I love [TS]

  brothers because brent Spiner gives us [TS]

  three great performances in the one [TS]

  episode that's always fun yeah Devil's [TS]

  Due is a lot of fun because space con [TS]

  tracks nope so much politics also just [TS]

  re reused 70s Star Trek script because [TS]

  there was a writer strike but yeah [TS]

  that's the backstory and oh wow it works [TS]

  though time's arrow is just a fun little [TS]

  dance head in the past yeah with Sam [TS]

  Clemens and oh so good yeah yeah and [TS]

  it's not the actual EDM good Mark Twain [TS]

  enter yeah yeah really good yeah very [TS]

  hardened go go Jerry okay yeah Deep [TS]

  Space nine basically the whole series [TS]

  but ascetically in Purgatory's shadow [TS]

  and buy-in foreign infernos light [TS]

  another two-parter that is definitely a [TS]

  two-parter despite the fact that the two [TS]

  parts of the two-parter have separate [TS]

  nation that's a great two-parter which [TS]

  is a single item on my list another one [TS]

  is the ship yeah another one is the ship [TS]

  which is the one where the Dominion ship [TS]

  crashes on the planet and they find it [TS]

  and then the Dominion wants it back and [TS]

  there they won't storm the ship because [TS]

  there's a changeling on board and it's [TS]

  like well what in the changeling just [TS]

  kill everyone on the ship whatever it's [TS]

  fine it works out it's a great show [TS]

  rejoined is another one that made my [TS]

  list that's the one where someone from [TS]

  Dax's past comes who is also a joined [TS]

  trill and in the past her symbian and [TS]

  her daksa symbian their previous hosts [TS]

  were married and they flirt with [TS]

  rekindling the relationship there and [TS]

  that was very bold at the time because [TS]

  the two hosts in that episode were both [TS]

  female and what I love about that [TS]

  episode more than anything else is that [TS]

  in the in that future not a single [TS]

  person anywhere so much as bats an [TS]

  eyelash at two ladies being romantically [TS]

  involved there's a lot of talk about the [TS]

  taboo about the troll society angle and [TS]

  everything but literally nothing is even [TS]

  said about the fact that they're both [TS]

  ladies in fact Kira at one point is like [TS]

  hey like I don't see what's the problem [TS]

  like the like the they used to be in [TS]

  love and they're both here so why can't [TS]

  they just pick up where [TS]

  left off and it's like everyone is just [TS]

  so incredibly tolerant and like they [TS]

  don't even think of it as a thing and I [TS]

  love the way that that episode was put [TS]

  together for that reason the other deep [TS]

  space nine one that I want to mention is [TS]

  who mourns for more because mourns [TS]

  awesome yeah you know and like like more [TS]

  than just sits there and he never says [TS]

  anything and then you learn all this [TS]

  stuff about morn in this episode with [TS]

  all his treachery and his deceit and his [TS]

  little criminal enterprises and his old [TS]

  running buddies and he still doesn't say [TS]

  a word and it works and they pull it off [TS]

  and it's fantastic it's in from rate [TS]

  caper episode yeah yeah yeahs from [TS]

  Voyager dark frontier because it's a [TS]

  space Safari and it's exciting and it's [TS]

  in venturing you can see some civilians [TS]

  on a ship tracking the board because [TS]

  they're batshit crazy but whatever and [TS]

  you know it's like you chase the boar [TS]

  good luck with that but it's it's a lot [TS]

  of fun and those flashbacks are great [TS]

  the other the other Voyager one that I [TS]

  want to call out is drone because [TS]

  believe it or not I that episode moves [TS]

  me emotionally in that final scene where [TS]

  he refuses to let them save his life [TS]

  because he knows the Borg will just [TS]

  relentlessly chased them and the effect [TS]

  that has on seven is just it gets me it [TS]

  gets me every time and then the [TS]

  enterprise episode was definitely in a [TS]

  mirror darkly at some honorable mentions [TS]

  just because enterprises and getting a [TS]

  lot of love this time the Andorian [TS]

  incident which has not evil consented [TS]

  were lying about their weather situation [TS]

  carbon Creek is a lot of fun where it's [TS]

  a Paul tells the story of her ancestor [TS]

  who spent a good deal of her time on [TS]

  earth and made a lot of money by saying [TS]

  here's some velcro so Vulcans invented [TS]

  velcro why nots volcra you're thinking [TS]

  of both and then the other one I really [TS]

  liked his dead stop where the [TS]

  enterprise's damaged heavily in that [TS]

  minefield and they come across this [TS]

  repair station and they dock and the [TS]

  thing repairs like everything including [TS]

  like injuries to the crew and all this [TS]

  stuff and they they give them their warp [TS]

  plasma as payment and the station's [TS]

  automated but lo and behold the station [TS]

  actually kidnaps one of the crew to be [TS]

  part of the computer in the back which [TS]

  is brain [TS]

  and like you know overcharging for [TS]

  repairs is the theme of that episode but [TS]

  it's a lot of fun and it's it's like [TS]

  Spock's brain done right yeah kinda sir [TS]

  all right um aleem what do you have left [TS]

  that you didn't get to pick all right so [TS]

  the one I was going to pick and next was [TS]

  a bright of kaotica it's just it's fun I [TS]

  like holodeck episodes I know that's [TS]

  also an opinion up for dispute and it's [TS]

  a Bryan Fuller episode it is yeah yeah I [TS]

  love it um and they have fun with it [TS]

  it's another one where it's like you can [TS]

  tell that that if they weren't having [TS]

  fun they at least acted like they had [TS]

  fun really well so that's nice um I have [TS]

  thine own self from the next generation [TS]

  a treachery faith in the great river [TS]

  yeah from deep space 9 the reason I love [TS]

  this so much is it's another nog [TS]

  enterprise episode and he's like a [TS]

  O'Brien needs a part I can't remember [TS]

  what it is and Nagas like oh yeah can [TS]

  get that for you and he like does all of [TS]

  these trades um in the Ferengi fashion [TS]

  to get this part for O'Brien and a [TS]

  brands like everything's gonna go like [TS]

  I'm dead and because nog trades like [TS]

  Cisco's desk and I'm in the end it all [TS]

  works out just fine and it's also got a [TS]

  humanizing thing with with way in and [TS]

  odo getting to know one another which [TS]

  which is kind of cool i also had who [TS]

  mourns for more'n just because i think [TS]

  you know we have this stoic and moving a [TS]

  character throughout the series and then [TS]

  we find out he's got this rich backstory [TS]

  and is apparently the life of the party [TS]

  and I have the last one I have on my [TS]

  list because I had a pretty short list [TS]

  compared to everybody else I'm is dead [TS]

  lock from Voyager and which is kind of [TS]

  an attitude that's that's ah that's also [TS]

  on my leftover list that is my favorite [TS]

  Voyager episode it is it's really great [TS]

  it is it is the reset button episode [TS]

  that doesn't cheat with the reset button [TS]

  yeah it kills Harry Kim which is always [TS]

  fun to see that's your favorite thing I [TS]

  love that episode so much because it [TS]

  takes so many turns and you think you [TS]

  know where it's going and then it turns [TS]

  again and you think you know where it's [TS]

  going and then you don't it's yeah I [TS]

  love I legitimately love that episode [TS]

  that is a wonderful episode Scott what [TS]

  did you have laughs I have three [TS]

  original series episodes of one of which [TS]

  is already mentioned the devil of the [TS]

  dark I love q & Q's the root of Q is the [TS]

  squire of gothos is a rly mullen episode [TS]

  where you know Q the the squire of [TS]

  gothos gets scolded by his parents which [TS]

  so it's fun the corbomite maneuver yeah [TS]

  that was not in which Kirk is his [TS]

  kircheis no we see a puppet and that's [TS]

  always great and Clint Howard Oviatt we [TS]

  see a baby who runs a puppet who runs a [TS]

  giant airship it's good and and we get [TS]

  to have some Tran yes I hope you really [TS]

  should as much as I and I love the the [TS]

  way his ship looks fantastic that's [TS]

  great episode uh David mentioned [TS]

  yesterday's enterprise I think yep did [TS]

  you have a good oh yeah he certainly [TS]

  mentioned relics which I love this [TS]

  Scotty appears and there's a Dyson [TS]

  Sphere always one d Space nine Episode [TS]

  blood oath also has so yeah original [TS]

  series roots in that three Klingon [TS]

  characters that appeared in the original [TS]

  series appear in blood oath and they go [TS]

  on adventure against the Alpine oh and a [TS]

  Voyager episode rounded out author [TS]

  author which is very much like measure [TS]

  of a man in which the doctor writes a [TS]

  hollow novel loosely based on the [TS]

  characters of Voyager doesn't portray [TS]

  them in a particularly good light and [TS]

  his novel is stolen by an unscrupulous [TS]

  publisher who sells at all because he's [TS]

  hologram and he has no rights and that [TS]

  makes him sad my leftover list also the [TS]

  corbomite maneuver I do love that [TS]

  episode [TS]

  it is it is Kirk a discourteous you got [TS]

  it he's just making things up and [TS]

  totally works and we also have a a [TS]

  problematic crew member in that episode [TS]

  who they have to deal with mr. Bailey [TS]

  and yes Clint Howard isn't it he's great [TS]

  deadlock from Voyager like I said my [TS]

  favorite Voyager episode devil in the [TS]

  dark love me the Horta oh the Horta best [TS]

  vessel culture best silicon-based [TS]

  life-form you can find I'm a doctor data [TS]

  brick oh man parallels from the next [TS]

  generation which is the parallel [TS]

  universes work Worf is never more [TS]

  flummoxed than in that episode where he [TS]

  suddenly finds himself married to Troy [TS]

  and his trophy keeps changing the [TS]

  painting on the wall changes it's so fun [TS]

  I love it bets that's worth it is best [TS]

  and my deep space 9 choice was necessary [TS]

  evil from the second season of jeep [TS]

  space 9 which is kind of a odo nor story [TS]

  and it he's investigating a crime and it [TS]

  has its roots in the occupation of deep [TS]

  space 9 back when it was Terok Nor and [TS]

  when Kira was a terrorist and he [TS]

  uncovers facts at seen in flashback of [TS]

  the things that Kira was doing back then [TS]

  and I and that that along with the [TS]

  episode that was already picked duet I [TS]

  love both of those episodes of early [TS]

  deep space 9 they're both really good [TS]

  Kira and in this case and odo two [TS]

  episodes so that's my flashback to when [TS]

  Kira and odo were back on the island 45 [TS]

  exactly right exactly right it's just [TS]

  it's a that's a good episode Joe had [TS]

  nothing left on his robo list so I'm [TS]

  glad we stopped when we did it all got [TS]

  picked or was sniped and Dan had a few [TS]

  left he had the search from deep space 9 [TS]

  which is when they get the Defiant and [TS]

  then have to go into the into the the [TS]

  Gamma Quadrant future imperfect from TNG [TS]

  which is that's the that's the creepy [TS]

  episode where Ryker wakes up in the [TS]

  future but it's all mm-hmm a fake [TS]

  but it's cool because it's that it's [TS]

  that what would it be like in the future [TS]

  and it's a surprising future that he [TS]

  wakes up in and relics with scotty and [TS]

  and the there's a great reference to the [TS]

  episode with the kelvans from the [TS]

  original series where where data acting [TS]

  as Scotty's bartender pulls out the the [TS]

  glass of or the giant jug of booze and [TS]

  it's it is green which is good Ian and [TS]

  it and it's revealed what that is that's [TS]

  Aldebaran whiskey because Picard gave it [TS]

  to Guinan and Scotty basically drinks [TS]

  the whole bottle as is it right so [TS]

  that's a lot of Star Trek episodes there [TS]

  I have one thing before we wrap it up [TS]

  which is although he couldn't be here [TS]

  tonight our good friend philip Michaels [TS]

  did also make his list of what episodes [TS]

  you wanted so just to go over Phil's [TS]

  list number one Kirk beds an alien chick [TS]

  number two data learns what it's like to [TS]

  be human fair enough number three enough [TS]

  of your damned antics q I endorse this [TS]

  number four is something the prime [TS]

  directive something number five will [TS]

  Rikers holodeck sex party not canon no [TS]

  that's headcanon number six enough of [TS]

  your antics cork sort of a follow-on and [TS]

  number seven city on the edge of forever [TS]

  anyway there you go [TS]

  anyway there you go [TS]

  pick he sniped me on the Kirk beds neely [TS]

  yeah that's that's which but I thought [TS]

  we couldn't pick multiple I know and [TS]

  data learns what it's like to be human [TS]

  also that's about 20 episodes so also [TS]

  enough of your antics q pretty much yeah [TS]

  he's boiled it down to the key episodes [TS]

  all right let's wrap it up now I want to [TS]

  thank my guests for picking many many [TS]

  Star Trek episodes this was a lot of fun [TS]

  Justin Michael thank you so much it's [TS]

  been great to be here I'm really glad [TS]

  this podcast worked out better than the [TS]

  Voyager episode course oblivion David [TS]

  lore thank you I am NOT a merry man [TS]

  that's why I like that that's the only [TS]

  reason I'm so bad I love worldly I do [TS]

  love Worf I do not like that episode of [TS]

  liens tips thank you I love Worf Scott [TS]

  McNulty thank you I ripped my pants now [TS]

  we got it all it comes back together [TS]

  acknowledged thank you to robo Joe and [TS]

  robo Dan who could not be here tonight [TS]

  but picked episodes any of somehow and [TS]

  thanks to everybody out there for [TS]

  listening to this episode being [TS]

  comfortable we'll see you next time bye [TS]

  [Music] [TS]

  you [TS]