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158: Peak Clooney

 

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  the incomparable number 158 September's [TS]

  I call this meeting of the incomparable [TS]

  film festival to order gentlemen it has [TS]

  come to my attention that it's time for [TS]

  us to assemble a new film festival [TS]

  each of you will be assigned today i [TS]

  will get the good day i will give the [TS]

  crappy days to you and each of you will [TS]

  be able to select some movies now here [TS]

  are the rules we can't use any of the [TS]

  movies that were in the film festival [TS]

  last year as detailed in three episodes [TS]

  of the incomparable last year mostly [TS]

  it's a legal thing the people whose [TS]

  movies we showed said they never wanted [TS]

  to be a part of our film festival again [TS]

  never again so we have to move on and [TS]

  because i know that so many of you want [TS]

  to pick the same movies i've decided [TS]

  that as with everything in American [TS]

  society this would be improved if we did [TS]

  it as a draft because fantasy football's [TS]

  all the rage and the last time i went to [TS]

  whole foods i'm pretty sure i got a [TS]

  draft for pairs i'm not really sure how [TS]

  that happened so i would like to thank [TS]

  all of you for volunteering to program a [TS]

  day of the incomparable film festival [TS]

  and now as is our strange recurring [TS]

  theme when we meet to plan the film [TS]

  festival i'm going to have you sound off [TS]

  as if we were recording this for a [TS]

  podcast David lure are you present [TS]

  present all right good [TS]

  are you ready do you have a list i have [TS]

  a list all right Monty ashley are you [TS]

  with us [TS]

  i am here for the honour of cinema ok [TS]

  excellent true fan of the theater see [TS]

  let's are you with us [TS]

  hey Jason I'm totally here okay [TS]

  excellent [TS]

  Andy an odd color you present i'm here [TS]

  to help bury the radio drama industry [TS]

  excellent that's right please move [TS]

  motion pictures are the bee's knees man [TS]

  Dan morning are you present and [TS]

  accounted for [TS]

  I am present I don't know what accounted [TS]

  for i never really did well and John [TS]

  syracuse I hope you're here to something [TS]

  tells me I'm not gonna be able to get [TS]

  through all eight movies i pick up maybe [TS]

  if we just keep it snappy [TS]

  all right we'll get started i will also [TS]

  remind those who might be listening to [TS]

  the transcript of this uncomfortable [TS]

  film festival meeting [TS]

  please reference episode 79 80 and 81 to [TS]

  hear the results of our previous film [TS]

  festival let's not speak about the [TS]

  incident that happened on Steve's night [TS]

  when a pig was slaughtered in the [TS]

  theater we don't want to talk about that [TS]

  was awesome [TS]

  oh please get transcribed later [TS]

  yes for for the archives for the minutes [TS]

  are these the same cup used to the oprah [TS]

  transcripts are few cents AZ will give [TS]

  you the transcript [TS]

  alright so the so again the rules are [TS]

  none of the 35 films we picked last time [TS]

  and we and hopefully this won't take [TS]

  eight hours like it did last time so I [TS]

  to kick us off [TS]

  I indian taco you get to go first please [TS]

  make your selection [TS]

  well was a tough one because they're [TS]

  only 71 movies have been made so now [TS]

  we've actually picked more than like a [TS]

  little bit less than half of them so but [TS]

  I was surprised at 11 my really favorite [TS]

  had not been picked yet it is what i [TS]

  consider to be the best movie about a [TS]

  tech geek about a nerd ever made it was [TS]

  directed by francis ford coppola [TS]

  released in 1974 it's called the [TS]

  conversation and this is the student now [TS]

  i'm not i'm not saying that the [TS]

  stereotype of nerds who are really [TS]

  really obsessed with technical [TS]

  proficiency but not quite so comfortable [TS]

  socializing i'm not saying that's a [TS]

  pervasive thing but we all know enough [TS]

  people out there that we could probably [TS]

  come up with one or two examples of this [TS]

  sort of person and gene hackman for god [TS]

  sakes gene hackman he is always good [TS]

  plays harry call who is an audio [TS]

  engineer who is a used to work for [TS]

  larger agency now is a private [TS]

  contractor and at the opening of this [TS]

  movie wonderful shot shot right in the [TS]

  middle of San Francisco we see him at [TS]

  his job where he is just an amazing [TS]

  engineer he has been hired to try to [TS]

  record a conversation between two people [TS]

  who are aware that people are going to [TS]

  be trying to record the conversation and [TS]

  are trying to create a situation which [TS]

  you cannot possibly get a recording of [TS]

  what was going on and so this did this [TS]

  incredibly dramatic choreography of [TS]

  hidden microphones and people on the [TS]

  ground [TS]

  around and radio microphones he manages [TS]

  to record this conversation but before [TS]

  he delivers it [TS]

  he's in his little lab is trying to [TS]

  clean it up and figure out what people [TS]

  are actually saying because you have to [TS]

  do all that sort of stuff and in the [TS]

  meantime he starts to kind of wonder why [TS]

  then why was I hired to record this [TS]

  conversation i bet if I keep trying to [TS]

  figure out if i try to get more of this [TS]

  conversation in the clear and I'll [TS]

  understand exactly what's going on [TS]

  meanwhile he's you get to see 1974 tech [TS]

  world where it's several lots of streets [TS]

  of San Francisco you get to see it [TS]

  electronics trade show you get to see [TS]

  this already sort of paranoid guy who [TS]

  does not like interacting with people [TS]

  finding lots of reasons why he doesn't [TS]

  like interacting with people how he just [TS]

  doesn't know how to get on with society [TS]

  and on top of everything else you've got [TS]

  John Cazale and in a supporting role [TS]

  Cindy Williams you have Harrison Ford in [TS]

  a supporting role for heaven's sake so [TS]

  he's this is this was just right before [TS]

  Star Wars what about turning this into a [TS]

  15-minute screen on this one film it's a [TS]

  really ritz it's not he is not the case [TS]

  of this one this man being caught in the [TS]

  net of intrigue and it turns into a [TS]

  deadly foot chase of cat-and-mouse stuff [TS]

  it really is what do you do when you [TS]

  just have no interest or ability to [TS]

  associate with the rest of humanity and [TS]

  now you're sort of forced into that sort [TS]

  of role where you're paranoid by Nature [TS]

  normally that's all in your head but now [TS]

  you're starting to suspect you have [TS]

  reasons to be paranoid and also he has a [TS]

  really cool lab he owns an entire [TS]

  warehouse but his entire workshop is a [TS]

  tiny wire cage off area with racks and [TS]

  racks of Awesome analog equipment so a [TS]

  top-to-bottom it's just such a fun show [TS]

  and also it really is Gene Hackman doing [TS]

  when those perfect gene hackman sort of [TS]

  roles we get to be wrinkled and nervous [TS]

  and frumpy and yet absolutely in command [TS]

  of what he imagines to be the world he [TS]

  listened and francis ford coppola [TS]

  returns to our film festival after his [TS]

  little of monster movies last time so [TS]

  that's nice too [TS]

  yes this was less less been attributable [TS]

  doesn't this this is this is something I [TS]

  i think we could do an entire I could do [TS]

  an entire film festival i have a real [TS]

  love the one sent to every director [TS]

  every like no mega mega lo part of the [TS]

  director like a Coppola they have that [TS]

  screenplay that they wrote before they [TS]

  hit it big and I couldn't get any [TS]

  interest in and as soon as he becomes [TS]

  the director of The Godfather the most [TS]

  successful movie franchise the seventies [TS]

  ever seen and now he has his screw you [TS]

  contract saying oh yeah well now i'm [TS]

  going here I'm going to make you make [TS]

  this movie that you never said we could [TS]

  ever get made and so he takes the script [TS]

  of his back pocket the conversation [TS]

  which he died i do think it's it's [TS]

  credibly his best movie i don't think i [TS]

  don't think that Apocalypse Now or The [TS]

  Godfather movies are better than this is [TS]

  just wonderful wonderful flick [TS]

  that's good that movie is one of five [TS]

  movies that John Cazale appears in and [TS]

  they all got nominated for best picture [TS]

  on a career [TS]

  ya know it's exactly he he died at age [TS]

  40 i think was it and you'd got he just [TS]

  would have been one of those guys that [TS]

  he was on the gene hackman track you [TS]

  know where you figure that he would have [TS]

  been 78 years old and coming up with a [TS]

  great be a role in a great movie every [TS]

  two years for the rest of his life [TS]

  alright uh David Laura you're up well [TS]

  you know i was looking at my DVD shelves [TS]

  and thinking you know all these movies i [TS]

  love and there's one that you know it's [TS]

  maybe not the greatest film in the world [TS]

  but it would be the first 1i would take [TS]

  to a desert island with a DVD player and [TS]

  that's Hudson now how philip Michaels [TS]

  just shot his computer yeah that's [TS]

  Wonderboys Michael Douglas tobey maguire [TS]

  pan [TS]

  yeah Tobey Maguire robert downey jr film [TS]

  by um what's-his-name oh no Curtis [TS]

  Hanson [TS]

  Thank You Curtis Hanson I could see him [TS]

  and you know it's this shaggy dog [TS]

  nineteen seventies kind of movie [TS]

  actually and and he said that he didn't [TS]

  intentionally made a 70 style move [TS]

  based on a novel by michael chabon [TS]

  excellent novel i prefer the movie it's [TS]

  just fun it's intelligent and it you [TS]

  know if it really gets inside writing [TS]

  and the weird thing is no matter how [TS]

  many times I see it no matter what time [TS]

  of day it is as soon as it's done [TS]

  I just want to get up and write for [TS]

  hours and hours because suddenly it's [TS]

  like oh yeah that's why I do this and [TS]

  it's a lot of fun I mean it's kind of a [TS]

  road trip where these three guys wind up [TS]

  together with Michael Douglas's this [TS]

  writer who has he wrote a brilliant [TS]

  novel brilliant first novel and [TS]

  everybody's been waiting for his [TS]

  follow-up for years and years and [TS]

  everyone figures he's had writer's block [TS]

  all this time and it's no no I'm on page [TS]

  twenty-two hundred and i'm still going [TS]

  and so he pee travels through the movie [TS]

  clutching this gigantic manuscript by [TS]

  the end of it and Tobey Maguire's the [TS]

  student of his [TS]

  who is that next generation of of wonder [TS]

  boy he's he's a fantastic writer and [TS]

  Robert Downey jr. is the agent who [TS]

  handles Michael Douglas's writing and is [TS]

  kind of looking at this guy and going [TS]

  hey I kind of like him and it's just [TS]

  it's wonderful how all these different [TS]

  stories intertwine and and just fully [TS]

  dimensional characters coming even even [TS]

  the smallest bit character is just a [TS]

  fully dimensional person it's it's just [TS]

  a wonderful movie and went but probably [TS]

  my favorite thing about it when he was [TS]

  trying to put together the music he was [TS]

  picking very you know early to mid [TS]

  seventies music and he pro2 Bob Dylan [TS]

  and he said I would really like to use [TS]

  some of your songs and the one said [TS]

  we'll send me the film i'll take a look [TS]

  at it [TS]

  hey I was not allowed [TS]

  yeah that's better i'm sorry but my [TS]

  headphones cut out what did he say again [TS]

  didn't lay and I said there where there [TS]

  was a transformed so have others yes yes [TS]

  go but he does often refer to himself by [TS]

  name to explain is 20 yes so you know he [TS]

  sends off the movie and doesn't hear [TS]

  from dylan and doesn't hear from dylan [TS]

  anything odd dammit can't use any of the [TS]

  songs and he wakes up one morning goes [TS]

  to his mailbox and there is this package [TS]

  and there's Bob Dylan in his mailbox in [TS]

  his mailbox [TS]

  it was a package of three brand new [TS]

  original songs written just for the [TS]

  movie that's how much Dylan identified [TS]

  with the characters in the story was [TS]

  like how and then don't want an Oscar [TS]

  for the for the song right but yes it's [TS]

  just a lovely film my favorite but i [TS]

  have a favorite line from that movie [TS]

  it's the now that is a big trunk it all [TS]

  the tufa suitcase a dead dog in a [TS]

  garment bag almost perfectly joined [TS]

  Michael Douglas character says that's [TS]

  just what they used to say in the ads [TS]

  all right Wonder Boys you Yusei better [TS]

  than the novel fair enough i've actually [TS]

  read that novel but I I love Michael [TS]

  Chabon so it's but it's it's adapted by [TS]

  the same writer who did six of the seven [TS]

  harry know seven of the eight Harry [TS]

  Potter films and the only harry potter [TS]

  film that has a bad script is going he [TS]

  didn't do and he streamlines this the [TS]

  storyline in the book and just sort of [TS]

  cuts out what I mean it I mean it's it [TS]

  works in a novel it would never work in [TS]

  a film and so he just sort of chops off [TS]

  this one whole subplot and keeps it [TS]

  going and you go [TS]

  yeah right that's how you do it cool we [TS]

  move on and it's steve lets his turn [TS]

  oh it's me it's you alright i'm a stand [TS]

  back male some strategy on You Man huh [TS]

  if this is the master of the universe [TS]

  movie i'm gonna be really upset if that [TS]

  wasn't even originally a Masters of the [TS]

  Universe screenplay right i mean right [TS]

  on it was the adaptation was I think [TS]

  pretty superb but yeah this time out i [TS]

  I've decided I'm gonna [TS]

  before go the highbrow pics from last [TS]

  time out good [TS]

  they were intended solely to make me [TS]

  look cultured you know like a dawn of [TS]

  the dead and the breakfast club someone [TS]

  was reading me the list of movies we [TS]

  picked last time and i went back did a [TS]

  double-take after nature to finishing it [TS]

  and said highlander picked highlander it [TS]

  wasn't me amazing [TS]

  Elaine plan is an odd duck Steve don't [TS]

  don't make me give you tuesday [TS]

  that's the curse i'm already in the [TS]

  broom closet i'm already in the beast or [TS]

  so there were simply pattern a day so [TS]

  yeah i decided i'm just going to choose [TS]

  movies that I really enjoy which means [TS]

  that i probably don't have much to worry [TS]

  about as far as anybody else [TS]

  sniping my movies but that's that I do [TS]

  have one movie that other panelists are [TS]

  likely to have on their list so I'm [TS]

  going to get out of the way right up [TS]

  front it is of course the classic Jerry [TS]

  Lewis and clouds movie funny bones know [TS]

  you can get you what you already are you [TS]

  picked how could that be it was a Glen [TS]

  fleischmann pic funny balls your [TS]

  homework eat it like he sniped you in a [TS]

  previous episode is gonna have to be the [TS]

  day the clown cried and steps that is [TS]

  the world wow oh that is a that's bad [TS]

  news well then I'm just gonna have to go [TS]

  with the Terminator then alright which [TS]

  which is of course the true story of how [TS]

  computers will eventually when [TS]

  everything natural eventually well at [TS]

  the time it was it was prescient now [TS]

  it's it's just kind of obvious so [TS]

  everybody knows the story in AI name [TS]

  Skynet become self-aware and decides [TS]

  that humans must be eliminated which is [TS]

  what a is due [TS]

  there's a human resistance that forms [TS]

  and Skynet sends naked honors [TS]

  Schwarzenegger back in time to pick off [TS]

  the mother of the resistance leader [TS]

  before said leader is born and then the [TS]

  resistance in in response sends naked [TS]

  Michael bien back to protect her and he [TS]

  says come with me if you want to live [TS]

  and then awesomeness ensues [TS]

  oh yeah so yeah like the Terminator it's [TS]

  it's action-packed it's a it's very [TS]

  scary at times in fact I'd say it [TS]

  qualifies as much as a horror movie as [TS]

  it does sci-fi it's got not one but two [TS]

  pretty convincing face [TS]

  endings and drawn out for too long and I [TS]

  i opened just spoil that for anybody i [TS]

  always get it confused with short [TS]

  circuit is it busy and I always get the [TS]

  robot from short-circuit confused with [TS]

  the robot from Space Camp short-circuit [TS]

  robot is more like Wally it's shirt on [TS]

  the five is alive [TS]

  it's right that it so there's a there's [TS]

  that the very clever time-travel [TS]

  conundrum of a John Connor sending back [TS]

  the man who would eventually become his [TS]

  father that I really like right and for [TS]

  better or worse it it made Arnold [TS]

  Schwarzenegger as career i think for [TS]

  better [TS]

  some would say for worse but it's the [TS]

  perfect role [TS]

  hey what about color in the Barbarian he [TS]

  was great in Conan but i don't think [TS]

  that that was that big and tell it did [TS]

  not apparently to an icon [TS]

  he had like seven lines of dialogue in [TS]

  Conan right it was the star it by 12 and [TS]

  terminator so yes he's wrapping up and I [TS]

  don't think that really took off until [TS]

  until it was out on video or out on [TS]

  cable and people started the word of [TS]

  mouth started getting around I think [TS]

  maybe five people saw it in the theater [TS]

  and it's the perfect role for Arnold [TS]

  because he barely asked to talk and when [TS]

  he does you can kind of rationalize why [TS]

  it sounds so stupid so a good good [TS]

  vehicle for him [TS]

  yeah i like that i like the look of this [TS]

  movie because you after after seeing [TS]

  Terminator 2 so many times it's charming [TS]

  to go back and see a movie that's [TS]

  definitely got a lower budget and it's [TS]

  darker everything is a little a little [TS]

  more kind of organic is more horror [TS]

  movie ish and a lot with that budget to [TS]

  Orson Hamilton looks totally different [TS]

  and she's bigger yes you got the big [TS]

  hair and she's just this kind of cute [TS]

  girl running around who gets mixed up in [TS]

  time travel adventures with killer [TS]

  robots she's not all sinew and tough [TS]

  yeah it's a hundred percent more bill [TS]

  paxton as as a like a punk in that [TS]

  person's right aren't very briefly [TS]

  yeah what impressed me the most about [TS]

  this movie is that normally if I'm if a [TS]

  time travel movie doesn't work for me [TS]

  all I'm thinking about is yet but none [TS]

  of this matters because they can just [TS]

  send another robot back in time before [TS]

  the time when this robot Liz like that [TS]

  Star Trek movie the first start tricking [TS]

  the first thing we'll start trying out [TS]

  generations was it yeah it's like okay [TS]

  so you defeated the Borg and but that [TS]

  doesn't matter because the border still [TS]

  able to check that out well that time [TS]

  travel thing didn't work but the fact [TS]

  that like at no point was i even [TS]

  thinking about the Terminator means that [TS]

  uh oh good movie [TS]

  yeah it is a good movie all right and [TS]

  left [TS]

  nice try Steve you actually picked a [TS]

  good movie i know i'm sorry miss we [TS]

  won't happen again I promise [TS]

  it is so much some cookie trivia 20 yes [TS]

  everybody already knows the Terminator I [TS]

  don't have to talk endlessly about it so [TS]

  i can tell you that apparently the [TS]

  studio suggested oj simpson for the role [TS]

  of the terminator [TS]

  wow that would have been a very [TS]

  different james cameron nixed it because [TS]

  he didn't think that she would be [TS]

  believable as a killer [TS]

  so next the idea and apparently sting [TS]

  was considered for the kyle reese role [TS]

  and I will kill him I will [TS]

  that's right so good it'll take six [TS]

  hours [TS]

  yeah of course a Harley guys and [TS]

  eventually sued Cameron getting that [TS]

  Cameron script off and outer limits [TS]

  episode that he wrote which exposure [TS]

  studio settled I guess Cameron was not [TS]

  too pleased by it and so now he says [TS]

  that Harlan Ellison is a parasite who [TS]

  can kiss my ass believe is the exact [TS]

  quote interesting from James Cameron [TS]

  what you're saying somebody doesn't like [TS]

  Harlan Ellison yeah shocking isn't it [TS]

  got a limited ellison is not someone who [TS]

  sues people without good reason [TS]

  yeah yeah he enjoys it and he's a lot of [TS]

  people but alright with the opposite i [TS]

  love the credit is I want to credit [TS]

  enjoying the in the video where it [TS]

  basically is acknowledgement to the [TS]

  works of Harlan Ellison it's like the [TS]

  most technology [TS]

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  comparable right Monty it's your turn [TS]

  well i'm assuming that i'm going to be [TS]

  banished to some distant stage possibly [TS]

  one of the last remaining drive-ins or [TS]

  monday in the or okay well i'm assuming [TS]

  it's a drive-in anyway even if it is on [TS]

  monday that's why my first movie is [TS]

  killing to kill again and excellent [TS]

  South African kungfu epic from 1981 I [TS]

  don't even know why I try anymore [TS]

  okay this movie is a trial and ya know [TS]

  that's that's little to explain all [TS]

  right it's one of my favorite movies [TS]

  this is absolutely true [TS]

  it's sort of the sequel to a movie [TS]

  called killer be killed [TS]

  so you they had a movie called killer be [TS]

  killed and it had a Nazi dwarf in it and [TS]

  it was kind of weird and they made [TS]

  another movie called killer diligent [TS]

  hilton hill same lead actor with a [TS]

  slightly different character I think [TS]

  he's steve hunt in the first movie and [TS]

  Steve chase the second movie today is [TS]

  now the plot of this movie is pretty [TS]

  standard same as enter the dragon or [TS]

  gymkata or any number of other movies [TS]

  where the hero has to infiltrate a [TS]

  country and enter a karate tournament [TS]

  right now that's what separates us from [TS]

  Rambo yeah I'm really really excited [TS]

  that used enter the dragon and judicata [TS]

  in the same sense and there's a lot of [TS]

  similarities but first he has together [TS]

  his team and his team consists of a guy [TS]

  named gorilla who is a huge black guy I [TS]

  a guy named Justin silly who knows the [TS]

  trailer park [TS]

  Wow a guy named hot dog who is kind of [TS]

  an out-of-shape guy with a shirt that [TS]

  says hotdog the budget was not high [TS]

  enough to get an actual hot dog when we [TS]

  first meet hot dog he's playing a kind [TS]

  of Russian roulette game with a bunch of [TS]

  dumb guys in a warehouse where he loads [TS]

  a pistol and flings it into the air and [TS]

  then Atlanta ball shoots in random [TS]

  directions later on a movie there will [TS]

  be like three different bar fights were [TS]

  hott Dogg will sidle up to an angry guy [TS]

  take the guys figure out of his mouth [TS]

  dip the lit end into a glass of whiskey [TS]

  suck the whiskey off and it back the guy [TS]

  and say hot dog and it makes no sense [TS]

  and the final member of the team is the [TS]

  fly who kicks everybody and is so [TS]

  powerful with his feet that is such [TS]

  control over the muscles of his feet [TS]

  that he can just stand still and slide [TS]

  sideways [TS]

  that's a good power but here's the kid [TS]

  here's a question for the sliding guy [TS]

  did they use stop motion to that effect [TS]

  in the movie [TS]

  no it looks like because the camera only [TS]

  goes up to about his knees [TS]

  it looks like i was driving him [TS]

  alongside ways and follow-up question is [TS]

  he Jamiroquai [TS]

  he is not he's a guy named Stan Schmidt [TS]

  well I'm stumped [TS]

  so the movies great makes no sense that [TS]

  has paratrooper ninjas and it ends with [TS]

  Steve chase having to fight a giant dude [TS]

  with a mustache named the optimist his [TS]

  moustache is named the optimist he [TS]

  fought somebody using a mustache as a [TS]

  weapon [TS]

  holy cow that's the greatest martial [TS]

  arts movie ever it is a great movie and [TS]

  had some of the worst fake beard you [TS]

  will ever see kill and kill again [TS]

  south africa's finest movie of 1981 [TS]

  South Africa's only movie in 1981 not [TS]

  regret it I got it I got to take that [TS]

  one off my list now cross diamonds [TS]

  that's why I made with it i'll be [TS]

  clearly good that's a value pick in the [TS]

  first round I John siracusa it's your [TS]

  turn the Godfather Part wanted to not [TS]

  available [TS]

  I'm beginning to question my [TS]

  participation in this I'm also beginning [TS]

  to question like when I was making this [TS]

  list I couldn't remember what movies we [TS]

  picked last time I know you sent us the [TS]

  list and I said surely someone has [TS]

  picked this movie in fact I think I [TS]

  picked this movie so I kept obsessively [TS]

  searching for it maybe I made a typo [TS]

  maybe you made a typo but I don't think [TS]

  it was picked maybe it maybe I've just [TS]

  talked about it before but anyway my [TS]

  first selection which I swear i've said [TS]

  all the same things about before the top [TS]

  but you'll tell me if that's the case is [TS]

  my favorite steven soderbergh movie did [TS]

  anyone know what it is yet [TS]

  I talked about before it's out of sight [TS]

  it's out of sight because that was gonna [TS]

  be my first round pick so you did say [TS]

  there was gonna be a second-round we are [TS]

  into the quality movie portion yeah this [TS]

  is my favorite same server movie and I [TS]

  believe the last time i talked about it [TS]

  i referred to this movie is peak Clooney [TS]

  I think it is p Clooney particular kind [TS]

  of cleaning anyway yes this is the rare [TS]

  crime caper movie that also has like big [TS]

  laughs but that doesn't pull its punches [TS]

  and violence either i had a lot of [TS]

  movies that are like that have sort of [TS]

  you know black humor or kind of black [TS]

  comedies this one somehow manages to be [TS]

  like light-hearted good-natured humor [TS]

  and terrible terrible violence both in [TS]

  the same movie and not conflicting I [TS]

  don't add [TS]

  I've never seen a movie like this in [TS]

  terms of mixture of elements and their [TS]

  works as well as this does this movie is [TS]

  probably also pick JLo i don't know that [TS]

  i've seen a lot of general open yeah but [TS]

  she's a celebrity supposedly at [TS]

  everything that she's asked to do she [TS]

  does well and that the one of the scenes [TS]

  that stands out when they were the JLo [TS]

  scenes for for obvious reasons but also [TS]

  not obvious reasons is that the hotel [TS]

  romance scene between her and George [TS]

  Clooney I romance scenes in movies [TS]

  especially like this tend to be kind of [TS]

  like the raunchy or like cringe-inducing [TS]

  where you watch them and you feel bad [TS]

  for the actors you feel embarrassed for [TS]

  the actors and for whatever reason this [TS]

  scene maybe it's the way it's shot maybe [TS]

  it's the music maybe it's the actress [TS]

  maybe it's everything leading up to it I [TS]

  I don't feel embarrassed for the actors [TS]

  it's actually a romance seemed that that [TS]

  is memorable like you think of you know [TS]

  what a memorable scenes from remember [TS]

  action scenes remember like a good line [TS]

  from a comedy or something I remember [TS]

  this romance scene it's not very long [TS]

  it's not graphic I just think it's one [TS]

  of the best done seen of that type that [TS]

  I've seen and instead of instead of [TS]

  feeling bad for them you kind of wish [TS]

  you were there and I think that is a [TS]

  very rare thing for for romance scenes [TS]

  we saw out of sight if you haven't seen [TS]

  it if you haven't heard of it if you [TS]

  like George Clooney and crime stuff like [TS]

  ocean's eleven or whatever I check it [TS]

  out [TS]

  best steven soderbergh movie ever yeah I [TS]

  think you're right all right and great [TS]

  great movie looks great [TS]

  the tone is fantastic this is again in [TS]

  Elmore Leonard this is a jlo explain [TS]

  Karen Sisco right who's then Carla [TS]

  cugino played in the tvs short-lived [TS]

  excellent TV series of the same name and [TS]

  that scene in the trunk of the car man [TS]

  who great stuff kinda kinda almost had [TS]

  her reprise that role unjustified which [TS]

  is also an Elmore Leonard baby yepp show [TS]

  which was kind of a nice touch [TS]

  well she's she's Karen but she has [TS]

  they've excused it is it's her married [TS]

  last name right because they can't [TS]

  officially use Karen Sisco because ABC [TS]

  right now and it ran it into the ground [TS]

  yeah yeah it's too bad John that's a [TS]

  great pic and it was a time not kidding [TS]

  actually on my list and I have to take [TS]

  it off now so damn you [TS]

  yep those my number two yeah [TS]

  dan it's your turn hey my turn great [TS]

  well I was trying to think of what sort [TS]

  of tie these movies together and I think [TS]

  the only thing I've really got is their [TS]

  movies that I like so much that I feel [TS]

  like you know if I meet someone in there [TS]

  like you know I've never seen that movie [TS]

  like we have to sit down and watch this [TS]

  movie now and so my first pick in that [TS]

  regard is I think a very topical movie [TS]

  interestingly enough even though it is [TS]

  over 20 years old now and that is the [TS]

  1992 film sneakers we like Robert [TS]

  Redford Sidney Poitier committee [TS]

  Busfield dan Aykroyd great cast and it's [TS]

  a fantastic movie I i love the sort of [TS]

  techno thrillers but i love these spin [TS]

  on this particular one which is that 799 [TS]

  to it's about kind of at that point [TS]

  aging Robert Redford and in the first [TS]

  scene of the movie where they're [TS]

  basically it's this company is hired to [TS]

  break into other companies and test [TS]

  their security there's a scene where [TS]

  Robert Redford tries to jump over like a [TS]

  bank counter and falls off of it which [TS]

  is just like pretty much just sets up [TS]

  the movie right there was like these [TS]

  guys are not very slick or anything like [TS]

  that like they're really smart and they [TS]

  know their stuff but you know they're [TS]

  not action heroes and it's one of those [TS]

  movies that actually does really work in [TS]

  terms of being cerebral and clever and [TS]

  there's not a lot of like action in it [TS]

  but it's but it's still very engaging [TS]

  and entertaining movie to watch and to [TS]

  me it's one of you know it's a super [TS]

  quotable movie to write you know I think [TS]

  there's you know even even people who [TS]

  probably don't even haven't seen this [TS]

  movie might have heard of like seatac [TS]

  astronomy recommend see too many secrets [TS]

  right like that's my lord there by me [TS]

  but there's just so many other mean my [TS]

  personal favorite character in the movie [TS]

  i think is probably Whistler who is who [TS]

  is blind but is really really good at [TS]

  like start picking out audio stuffing [TS]

  like he's got this whole like setup [TS]

  where he can remix up in one notable [TS]

  seen reconfigures out they could be path [TS]

  Robert Redford character character was [TS]

  like kidnapped and taken down based on [TS]

  like the seams in the concrete of the [TS]

  bridge [TS]

  that he goes across which is just it's [TS]

  super clever like and you don't seem [TS]

  like that kind of thought go into most [TS]

  movies I feel like and because it deals [TS]

  with encryption and the NSA which is you [TS]

  know just a topic on everybody's mind [TS]

  these days but they're in to my mind [TS]

  there's nobody in this movie who is out [TS]

  of place like the cast is excellent [TS]

  it's really well-written it's funny but [TS]

  it's also got it sort of dark moments i [TS]

  love i will say the one thing which I [TS]

  love although I admit it's also terrible [TS]

  as ben kingsley as the sort of villain [TS]

  his News New Jersey accent is kind of [TS]

  hilarious to my mind I always always [TS]

  hear my body [TS]

  this would be a disaster terrible [TS]

  terrible but still fun and I just you [TS]

  know you even got like the underlings [TS]

  played by Timothy Busfield mary jones [TS]

  who are kind of jerks and punch Robert [TS]

  Redford a bunch of times in the face [TS]

  there's great scene where a climactic [TS]

  scene in the movie with Robert Redford [TS]

  has to go across a room but can't move [TS]

  very fast because of the motion sensors [TS]

  which is so great and like the tension [TS]

  in that is so well done it doesn't need [TS]

  to be like this huge long chase you're [TS]

  just like watching like there's one that [TS]

  some of the guys tells me like a little [TS]

  Europeans like you better hurry up [TS]

  because like I'm going as fast as I can [TS]

  and I you know it's one of those movies [TS]

  that in my head i just i quote you know [TS]

  like all the time things come up that [TS]

  you know and it's one of my favorite [TS]

  favorite movies and if you haven't if [TS]

  any of you haven't seen it [TS]

  you're dead to me I love this wonderful [TS]

  movie but i think the great thing about [TS]

  it is that it's one of the few movies [TS]

  that seems to get like hacking a hacker [TS]

  call ya correct like to break into the [TS]

  system see that's not scruffy guy give [TS]

  me hot pockets and eight cases redbull [TS]

  we're gonna start at dance by this [TS]

  keyboard is like no we have to trick me [TS]

  there's a voice password we have to [TS]

  trick this guy to give it the recording [TS]

  his voice right the social social [TS]

  engineering [TS]

  exactly yeah it comes across and you [TS]

  know that's that's a big part of it too [TS]

  this movie is one of the movies i [TS]

  remember when I've seen a movie and I at [TS]

  the end of it I say to myself or to all [TS]

  those around me in the theater I shouted [TS]

  at the screen and wave my fist around [TS]

  why are there more [TS]

  movies like this right then why aren't [TS]

  there more movies like this in this [TS]

  yes sneakers got cut it's kind of like [TS]

  some of the seventies [TS]

  yeah techno throws like three days [TS]

  regional director exactly another [TS]

  Redford another red room well i think [TS]

  that's that's the direct link right and [TS]

  then and there also there's also direct [TS]

  link because he is also driving the same [TS]

  karmann ghia Robert Redford as he drove [TS]

  his characters drove in the three [TS]

  dresses three days of the Condor [TS]

  and-and-and wearing the same baseball [TS]

  jacket he wore in the natural so he was [TS]

  like Santa and budget assuring I think [TS]

  so well really be almost kinda you can [TS]

  almost kinda justify like and I was one [TS]

  of those movies that's kind of feels [TS]

  like an unofficial sequel in some way [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah but it's it's a and [TS]

  actually out of sight I have the same [TS]

  thing which is like more movies like [TS]

  this place [TS]

  you know that's that's a good sign when [TS]

  you're like why you aren't there more [TS]

  like this this seems like do more like [TS]

  this this is a good one also robert [TS]

  redford scene with how do you break a [TS]

  key keypad combination lock on my door [TS]

  is just a thing of a thing of beauty [TS]

  yeah sneakers is one of those movies [TS]

  that does technology and did it [TS]

  acknowledges that they're gonna have to [TS]

  have some fake bogus crazy technology [TS]

  thing like is there MacGuffin type thing [TS]

  but the be reworded but but still never [TS]

  manages like it doesn't annoy [TS]

  technically it's basically like that's [TS]

  that's difficult thing can you make a [TS]

  movie about technology that doesn't [TS]

  drive people who are knowledgeable in [TS]

  the field bubble wall and one way to [TS]

  just get every single thing right and be [TS]

  realistic that's not what this movie [TS]

  does this movie gets to be a fun [TS]

  interesting movie and doesn't annoy with [TS]

  the the fake technology right well [TS]

  because they don't go too much into the [TS]

  details they give you sort of the broad [TS]

  strokes of something that is [TS]

  theoretically possible right which is [TS]

  that all encryption is really based on [TS]

  the same idea and if you could figure [TS]

  out a way to exploit that idea you could [TS]

  you know figure out a way to break all [TS]

  the encryption but at the same time you [TS]

  don't really go into the nitty-gritty of [TS]

  how that works [TS]

  they don't start being a scriptwriters [TS]

  today feel the need to go to the [TS]

  internet and type forward into the into [TS]

  a search box and get like synonyms and [TS]

  they just start throwing words in there [TS]

  remember when they discover the word [TS]

  firewall it was all downhill out all [TS]

  right then that's a great pic and it's [TS]

  my turn to finish out the first round [TS]

  yes we've only done the first round [TS]

  because we [TS]

  terrible people I'm going to actually [TS]

  David said something that I thought was [TS]

  really interesting about a one of my [TS]

  favorite writers and a movie based on [TS]

  one of his novels Wonderboys III one of [TS]

  my other favorite writers is nick hornby [TS]

  and I have a huge amount of affection [TS]

  for the 2000ad application of his novel [TS]

  high-fidelity starring John Cusack and [TS]

  so I'm gonna pick it for my first-round [TS]

  selection directed by stephen frears I [TS]

  was so skeptical of a film adaptation of [TS]

  the book high-fidelity I love that book [TS]

  i think it is a wonderful encapsulation [TS]

  of a lot of things about what it means [TS]

  to be an incredibly shallow 20-something [TS]

  man uh home and I always thought that it [TS]

  was a very interesting maybe interesting [TS]

  narrator this guy who's sort of trying [TS]

  to reel sort of realizing that he needs [TS]

  to move on with his life and grow up and [TS]

  yet at the same time cannot get out of [TS]

  his his obsessions and bad habits and [TS]

  bad behavior that there's a lot of music [TS]

  in the book lots of lists of songs and [TS]

  references to pop music and also I felt [TS]

  it was a really very very English book [TS]

  lots of soccer references because nick [TS]

  hornby is a huge soccer fan and I [TS]

  thought there was no way that they could [TS]

  translate this into a movie set in [TS]

  Chicago starring John Cusack and you [TS]

  know what I love it I love John Cusack [TS]

  in it he plays he's he's likable in all [TS]

  the ways you need them to be likable and [TS]

  yet is also unlikable in all the ways [TS]

  that character needs to be unlikable and [TS]

  make bad decisions and be more [TS]

  interested in himself than anybody else [TS]

  jack black gives a really good [TS]

  performance i would say other than [TS]

  school of rock perhaps i think it's it's [TS]

  maybe his best he is a incredibly [TS]

  obnoxious awful record store clerk and [TS]

  is perfect doing a stretch its treatment [TS]

  fries that he could say perfect but then [TS]

  he yes he sings at the end in a [TS]

  wonderfully see that for the end you're [TS]

  thinking that he's gonna be awful then [TS]

  suddenly ever goes oh very divergent the [TS]

  Uptown five you know instead of kathleen [TS]

  turner overdrive [TS]

  dr uh great great stuff there and they [TS]

  they cast a Danish actress she's really [TS]

  likable as this as his longtime [TS]

  girlfriend and you know she leaves and [TS]

  ends up with tim robbins in a [TS]

  fantastically scuzzy annoying hateful [TS]

  part get your patchouli stinker out of [TS]

  my record store ah and and there are [TS]

  some really nice moments in this movie [TS]

  where john cusack actually speaks to the [TS]

  camera and talks about as he's kind of [TS]

  going through what it what the deal is [TS]

  with his life and trying to figure out [TS]

  how he screwed everything up including [TS]

  my favorite thing in this movie probably [TS]

  is how he also has always imagined his [TS]

  funeral and the songs that are playing [TS]

  you know a beautiful woman stands up at [TS]

  the front of the UH of the of the chapel [TS]

  and sings you're the best thing that [TS]

  ever happened to me and he pauses but [TS]

  who would that woman be and he realizes [TS]

  there's not going to be anybody up at [TS]

  his funeral because of the way he's [TS]

  living his life in the way he treats the [TS]

  women in his life and it's a wonderful [TS]

  moment where that's like he grows up all [TS]

  the sudden so I like it a lot it's funny [TS]

  it's smart and it manages to actually [TS]

  properly adapt a novel i love and not [TS]

  screw it up so high fidelity there it is [TS]

  it's good music into that they did a [TS]

  good job with the music which is a must [TS]

  in a moving excellent use of the beta [TS]

  band [TS]

  yes Oh driving rain whatta whatta ya [TS]

  what a great sign which is l eight [TS]

  copies of this of the three eps around [TS]

  the beta pan that's right he sold more [TS]

  copies than that as it turns out to have [TS]

  a three-piece been debated pan now I [TS]

  actually own that already but good for [TS]

  you i did not and then I heard drive [TS]

  array and I was like whole ok i'm buying [TS]

  and don't be that guy before we get back [TS]

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  incomparable alright second-round Andy [TS]

  it's not a snake draft is not one of [TS]

  those yahoo fantasy football snake draft [TS]

  things so we're just going back up to [TS]

  the room and I know nothing of this [TS]

  snake draft being that I am unfamiliar [TS]

  with your sports tradition well in [TS]

  interacting in comfortable episode 6 we [TS]

  did a fantasy draft will pick our [TS]

  favorite snakes you can go back and [TS]

  listen to that one anyway [TS]

  yeah she got it on that yeah i got [TS]

  Diamondback and Europe [TS]

  well I have to I have to employ some [TS]

  agility here fortunately I had like a [TS]

  short list of like 10 movies to choose [TS]

  from and given that we're supposed to be [TS]

  programming a day of a film festival my [TS]

  original the program was going to be was [TS]

  was was going to be the conversation [TS]

  three days of the Condor and then [TS]

  sneakers [TS]

  hello based on our trilogy but i have [TS]

  but since i have given that the net with [TS]

  Dennis Miller system with one out now [TS]

  could be it could be a sucky hacker [TS]

  movie trailer just follow follow the [TS]

  conversation with enemy of the state [TS]

  exam and a Faraday cage again at first I [TS]

  get gene hackman doing one of those [TS]

  uncredited sequels to the I was [TS]

  definitely very call under another name [TS]

  as the Savior reason that movie [TS]

  yeah but I did okay but i did find [TS]

  another another wolf full day program [TS]

  three of three movies i'm switching to [TS]

  now with my second movie pick which is [TS]

  the taking of pelham 123 which has three [TS]

  making access right I've started the [TS]

  would the Goodwin the 1974 one but [TS]

  processes that off the list [TS]

  it's it's has a connection to the [TS]

  conversation because it's a 1917 for [TS]

  movie that is so totally set in New York [TS]

  City so totally set with location [TS]

  shooting in the city that that the story [TS]

  takes place and so I have a sense that [TS]

  this is a much better movie for us [TS]

  watching it today than it would have [TS]

  been in 1974 because it is the story of [TS]

  it's a it's a it's a it's a thriller in [TS]

  which people some armed men hijack a [TS]

  subway train which is the dumbest thing [TS]

  to hijack because it's sort of us can go [TS]

  forward and backward so they can [TS]

  probably they've got a 50-50 chance of [TS]

  the cops are figuring out where you're [TS]

  going with this thing so but that's but [TS]

  that's part of like that the challenge [TS]

  of the film where the transit cops try [TS]

  to figure out what okay you have clearly [TS]

  you have like 20 people hostage you have [TS]

  machine guns you're promising to kill to [TS]

  kill them off if we don't give you don't [TS]

  get us if we don't give you a million [TS]

  dollars in an hour we have no idea how [TS]

  your plan to get out of here because [TS]

  we're so totally going to bag your butt [TS]

  but all right to keep you from two to [TS]

  figure out what your next move is sure [TS]

  here you know we will try to get you the [TS]

  million dollars so with it has to really [TS]

  great features that make it an awesome [TS]

  movie [TS]

  number one it doesn't follow what we've [TS]

  seen so many thrillers of this type that [TS]

  we sort of already know that it goes [TS]

  beat for beat for beat for beat for beat [TS]

  and maybe there can be two alternatives [TS]

  for a couple different points in the [TS]

  story but we pretty much know how this [TS]

  plays out this does not follow that road [TS]

  map at all so you really are feeling as [TS]

  you're watching it that this story can [TS]

  go anywhere you don't know what's going [TS]

  to happen and the second part is this is [TS]

  technically like an action-thriller in [TS]

  which every person is a doughy [TS]

  middle-aged character actor male [TS]

  character actor Walter Matthau is your [TS]

  action hero here and this was like the [TS]

  last movie he did because the last the [TS]

  movie action movie he did because he had [TS]

  good quintuple bypass surgery like about [TS]

  a week after shooting stopped so you got [TS]

  Walter Matthau being Walton a fall [TS]

  throughout this and [TS]

  I a movie and it's an effort not only [TS]

  that but every single character actor [TS]

  you can name that is like again Joey [TS]

  middle-aged white guy from the seventies [TS]

  Jerry Stiller is a cop and that and [TS]

  that's been with the character of of all [TS]

  the people in this movie the end the [TS]

  last really great thing about it is that [TS]

  i love these stories that are sort of [TS]

  that of course are set before the [TS]

  internet before computing power and [TS]

  there it at some point Walter Matthau [TS]

  gets this idea that oh well that's it [TS]

  well we gotta figure out what if they're [TS]

  doing this they must have a person with [TS]

  a specific kind of expertise call the [TS]

  computer center get me a list of [TS]

  everybody who matches this like list of [TS]

  qualifications and it's like all right [TS]

  do we should have the answer about 19 [TS]

  hours because we have to send people [TS]

  with punch cards and put tapes onto [TS]

  under reels and stuff like that so this [TS]

  is this is a movie in which the most [TS]

  important the only really big piece of [TS]

  technology is a huge motorola [TS]

  walkie-talkie and but it's still a [TS]

  really compelling movies it's one of my [TS]

  favorites and it's like I forget all [TS]

  about it until it turns up on turner [TS]

  classic movies and then I coat tell [TS]

  pelham 123 I can see this click I'm done [TS]

  for the first night I haven't seen it [TS]

  i'm gonna put on my list [TS]

  we're going to the movie that's right [TS]

  thumbs up I excellent i like those I [TS]

  like those good movies so I watch it [TS]

  David your turn alright having crossed [TS]

  off out of sight in Pelham one two whole [TS]

  the draft [TS]

  shut your mouth just talk about right [TS]

  about the draft [TS]

  what's the uncomfortable premise that's [TS]

  getting a little tired and people might [TS]

  be seeking damn right I can do and we [TS]

  all just go home located idea but we [TS]

  really simplify the hell out of it [TS]

  that's right let's not break Jason again [TS]

  we just got them fixed from the last [TS]

  it's not a snake draft alright go ahead [TS]

  David but ok for my second pic I'm going [TS]

  to take the royal tenenbaums which is a [TS]

  wes anderson film it was his guess was [TS]

  his follow-up to Rushmore [TS]

  yeah and you know people talk about [TS]

  Rushmore they talk about Moonrise [TS]

  Kingdom now which I also really really [TS]

  love but the run tenenbaums just creates [TS]

  a world and it sticks to it and it is [TS]

  this fantasy New York that you know the [TS]

  they go to the 375th street y which you [TS]

  know but it's it's this wonderful [TS]

  portrait of a family of genius children [TS]

  who failed to live up to their potential [TS]

  and you have gene hackman again again as [TS]

  the patriarch the near near do L [TS]

  patriarch royal tenenbaum and Angelica [TS]

  Huston is his estranged wife and danny [TS]

  glover as the man who is courting [TS]

  Angelica i have been stiller and Gwyneth [TS]

  Paltrow and owen wilson and luke wilson [TS]

  all the actors who appear in all of West [TS]

  Edison's movies are ya [TS]

  and of course Bill Murray butt itches it [TS]

  just creates such a wonderful world and [TS]

  again with all these intertwining [TS]

  stories that all come together and sort [TS]

  of focus on what do you do when you grow [TS]

  up as a prodigy who just didn't make it [TS]

  and it since it's just a lovely story [TS]

  alright I I didn't love i really like [TS]

  Rushmore and Russia I was sort of let [TS]

  down by royal tenenbaums but that's ok [TS]

  people love I find hate toward west [TS]

  anderson fascinating because he seems [TS]

  his movie seemed to do what they say on [TS]

  the tin and if you don't like one of his [TS]

  movies I think you maybe don't like his [TS]

  movies because he does his thing [TS]

  it's you know you're all of a kind [TS]

  they're all kind of unrealistic and [TS]

  heightened and even a fantastic mr fox [TS]

  is so clearly west and yeah and i like [TS]

  that 10 yeah he's obviously doing [TS]

  whatever he's doing on purpose [TS]

  this is yes it's not present but it's [TS]

  really neat because fantastic mr fox is [TS]

  an actual children's book and royal [TS]

  tenenbaums has the feel of a children's [TS]

  book you know it has that sort of [TS]

  fantasy world that are built [TS]

  and you know my kids love fantastic mr [TS]

  fox and they've started watching the [TS]

  other ones i haven't seen Moonrise [TS]

  Kingdom but my wife saw it and she said [TS]

  it was actually very good to something [TS]

  like that yeah i still think Rushmore is [TS]

  is his best but I liked Moonrise Kingdom [TS]

  a lot yeah moon rises because maybe as [TS]

  most mature oddly enough [TS]

  yeah ironic because it's my children and [TS]

  moonrise brings them closer to his [TS]

  ultimate career goal which is to create [TS]

  a film in which you can cut the negative [TS]

  down the middle and distributes two [TS]

  halves and then just duplicate the haps [TS]

  the movie will be exactly the same [TS]

  huh he's very he's getting very close [TS]

  I haven't seen racing them yet that's a [TS]

  little bit like saying I haven't seen [TS]

  evil dead two yet [TS]

  does that mean you will see it [TS]

  eventually sorry I'm doing facility [TS]

  that's a good 1i Steve it's your turn [TS]

  yay i'm going to take 1980 tues [TS]

  poltergeist 1982 horror film in here [TS]

  it's the it's the steven spielberg [TS]

  horror movie that's not about sharks [TS]

  produced and written by spielberg [TS]

  possibly directed by tobe hooper [TS]

  probably mostly by spielberg there's [TS]

  some controversy with a bloodless let's [TS]

  just say that her a lot of wide-eyed [TS]

  reaction shots which of course to tobe [TS]

  hooper's very well known for but in [TS]

  texas chainsaw massacre [TS]

  yeah when I first when i first saw [TS]

  poltergeist I thought it was probably [TS]

  the scariest movie i've ever seen [TS]

  although some of that is probably down [TS]

  to the way I first saw it I was would [TS]

  say about 11 or 12 years old alone in my [TS]

  parents house they were out for the [TS]

  evening every sliding door in the house [TS]

  was open because it's been a hot day [TS]

  every light but the one in the living [TS]

  room is off haha I yeah my parents house [TS]

  was kind of long one of your neighbors [TS]

  was was had gotten a side of beef and [TS]

  was had a big knife and was chopping it [TS]

  up into little pieces and the trees it [TS]

  was the trees outside the windows right [TS]

  even with us [TS]

  yeah yeah and read let you know is that [TS]

  i lived in a house it was kind of freaky [TS]

  anyway I just redlands in general is [TS]

  sort of semi well known for having a lot [TS]

  of ghostly activity in fact they [TS]

  actually mention it in this movie which [TS]

  kind of ya heard me a little bit too [TS]

  would think so yeah I think I think why [TS]

  it's so effective is because it hits on [TS]

  nearly every childhood fear you get the [TS]

  spooky tree outside that the creepy ass [TS]

  clown doll which as far as I'm concerned [TS]

  is reason for CPS to get involved who [TS]

  would buy that for their children who [TS]

  puts that in their child's room and [TS]

  expects them to to have a normal life [TS]

  yeah the monster in the closet you got [TS]

  the great nightmare scenario where [TS]

  jobeth williams is trapped in the muddy [TS]

  pool with a bunch of bobbing grinning [TS]

  skeletons and then she nearly closed our [TS]

  way out and then slips and slides right [TS]

  back into the pool so it's just it's [TS]

  really effective at kind of hitting the [TS]

  primal fears that you had when you were [TS]

  ten years old or eight years old and [TS]

  since I was about 10 or 11 when I was [TS]

  watching it did a pretty good job on me [TS]

  but I rewatched this last night for the [TS]

  first time in quite awhile and well I [TS]

  think it's still pretty effective on [TS]

  that sort of childhood fear level now [TS]

  that I'm a parent is taken on this whole [TS]

  different flavor because in addition to [TS]

  all those childish fears i now see it a [TS]

  heaping helping of the very adult fear [TS]

  of losing a child and you know when [TS]

  Caroline sort of disappears into the [TS]

  house [TS]

  it's a really well acted movie I that [TS]

  both cranky Nelson and jobeth williams [TS]

  do a superb job of really kind of [TS]

  putting out that their child is gone and [TS]

  they don't know where they can hear [TS]

  coming from the TV and they have no idea [TS]

  what to do you know you you get this [TS]

  this shot of cranky Nelson after some [TS]

  time has passed after she's been sucked [TS]

  into the closet he just looks like [TS]

  absolute hell he clearly hasn't slept in [TS]

  weeks but in the family are holding it [TS]

  together just out of sheer love for each [TS]

  other and trying to make sure the other [TS]

  kids don't lose it it's really it's why [TS]

  the sequel i think was so disappointing [TS]

  because that film kind of turn the whole [TS]

  family into a bunch of a-holes [TS]

  but yeah it's it's good on a lot of [TS]

  levels and very well paced very well [TS]

  directed there's a terrific Lee haunting [TS]

  main theme that Jerry Goldsmith did that [TS]

  sticks in your head and oscar-nominated [TS]

  hangs around your leave [TS]

  alright I think so alright this movie [TS]

  messed me up so much for the kid it so [TS]

  much and I get it you came out of it [TS]

  like you like horror movies now right [TS]

  this movie terrified for most of my [TS]

  childhood terrified me never want to see [TS]

  her movies I don't have affection for [TS]

  this movie I actually kind of hate it [TS]

  because it is terrorized me [TS]

  yeah I saw it actually already seen my [TS]

  fair share of worst horror movies by [TS]

  this point in terms of just being more [TS]

  disturbing so no movie I ever see will [TS]

  be a scary as poltergeist him it was to [TS]

  me when I said yet I still think it's up [TS]

  there and probably my top 5 of genuinely [TS]

  scary horror movies so it's good stuff [TS]

  alright that's a good pic and of course [TS]

  I i look to you to provide us with some [TS]

  more so I'm glad you did i do what i can [TS]

  also over moving now I clear your mind [TS]

  Jason and it knows what scares you [TS]

  hmm Monty it's your turn let me tell you [TS]

  about Miami connection that there's a [TS]

  movie made in 1987 by a taekwondo [TS]

  instructor listening [TS]

  it's the story of a rock band composed [TS]

  exclusively of orphans that mall no [TS]

  Taekwondo and they are fighting a group [TS]

  of ninjas that wrote it right around on [TS]

  motorcycles selling cocaine now it does [TS]

  not take place in Miami always called [TS]

  miami connection it's actually in [TS]

  orlando at the central florida [TS]

  university most of the time nobody knows [TS]

  why it's called miami connection my [TS]

  guess is it's supposed to be a play on [TS]

  the french connection with the cocaine [TS]

  there's six people in this band two of [TS]

  them were hired because they could act [TS]

  two of them were hired because they [TS]

  could do Taekwondo and two of them were [TS]

  hired because they could look remotely [TS]

  plausible holding musical instruments [TS]

  the problem is that all six of them then [TS]

  have to do all three of those things so [TS]

  when they're being a band singing great [TS]

  songs like against the ninja only two of [TS]

  them look like they've ever seen a [TS]

  guitar before and then when they're [TS]

  acting [TS]

  only two of them seem like they reverse [TS]

  spoken before this movie was [TS]

  rediscovered I think two years ago by [TS]

  the drafthouse people in austin and it [TS]

  is crazy they but apparently bought it [TS]

  on ebay and then restored it because of [TS]

  the area why do I know this movie [TS]

  because you're mentioning announcing [TS]

  scenes of it in my head I'm afraid I [TS]

  might have seen his phone [TS]

  well you might have seen it 1987 then it [TS]

  vanished but the people who run the [TS]

  alamo drafthouse in austin just by all [TS]

  the film came they can get on ebay and [TS]

  then they show them to people in austin [TS]

  to an unsuspecting public just blind [TS]

  like here's what we got in this can ban [TS]

  but it wasn't terrified represent corn [TS]

  know it's gonna be thinking probably [TS]

  three things all the time i'm always [TS]

  thinking 50-percent board you're right [TS]

  this movie has about 10 minutes of [TS]

  random toplessness because to fill out [TS]

  the runtime its database to they went to [TS]

  a biker rally and just got some footage [TS]

  of a bunch of topless women ended up [TS]

  wanting to do with the movie and [TS]

  probably what might happen in Florida [TS]

  nobody can tell so what's what what [TS]

  happens what's the plot [TS]

  ok so you've got this rock band the [TS]

  orphan to know taekwondo right and [TS]

  another band is angry that this band [TS]

  took their spot at what is apparently [TS]

  the only night club in orlando so the [TS]

  band goes to the cocaine selling [TS]

  motorcycle ninjas who are also run by [TS]

  the brother of somebody in this band and [TS]

  they say you gotta get this band out of [TS]

  the way so there are a bunch of fights [TS]

  with shockingly violent special-effects [TS]

  a river literally red is red with blood [TS]

  at one point that's pretty much the [TS]

  whole plot all right I think I don't [TS]

  think I'm glad we have at least one [TS]

  person here who's taking this seriously [TS]

  yeah listen I don't think the world [TS]

  needs you guys to tell them did you know [TS]

  there's a movie called The Terminator [TS]

  fair enough who [TS]

  if one person guts goes out and sees [TS]

  Miami connection which somehow has a DVD [TS]

  release i will have lived an honorable [TS]

  life [TS]

  alright fair enough Aaron a lotta that's [TS]

  a lotta hinges upon monday with a funny [TS]

  looking at the Alamo Drafthouse is [TS]

  trying to sell beer and popcorn [TS]

  what's your excuse for promoting the [TS]

  film this movie is amazing its raw [TS]

  emotion fun exciting cinematic [TS]

  experiences I have ever had [TS]

  ok so you say is so you're telling [TS]

  somebody you're you have access to the [TS]

  entire film library that's available [TS]

  online for sale [TS]

  you can buy either the third man or this [TS]

  movie you should not buy the third man [TS]

  you should definitely go for this you [TS]

  rent it [TS]

  rent this but I don't know AK you can [TS]

  write down like that sounds like a step [TS]

  onto me [TS]

  this movie has everything you have an [TS]

  entire internet telling you you should [TS]

  watch the third man screw those guys but [TS]

  more people need to tell you about Miami [TS]

  connection [TS]

  ok alright Miami connection is a unique [TS]

  movie it's made by somebody who doesn't [TS]

  really know what goes into movies and [TS]

  ninety percent of the time that comes [TS]

  out as unwatchable horrible wreck and [TS]

  one percent of the time it's amazing [TS]

  outsider art and that's what happened [TS]

  here all right [TS]

  this may be the film this time that I go [TS]

  and watching and review yeah I may [TS]

  actually later date need to me to see [TS]

  this but this sounds like the sort of [TS]

  movie we're like one of the questions [TS]

  they asked every audition [TS]

  every actor to the audition is do you or [TS]

  anybody or any of your friends own a van [TS]

  or motorcycle [TS]

  are you a ninja or film equipment that's [TS]

  entirely possible all the seams enough [TS]

  notice they're all wearing shirts that [TS]

  advertise what campus there are sure a [TS]

  chance they got some funding college [TS]

  yeah college too alright money that's [TS]

  that's great that's hilarious [TS]

  actually I'm i'm going to look up Miami [TS]

  connection John circus it's your turn [TS]

  this movie is from 1979 those 40 people [TS]

  or people who are kids making something [TS]

  that is called Breaking Away which I [TS]

  hope everybody is fine but maybe [TS]

  youngsters here Dan more have not seen [TS]

  this movie I've seen the TV series know [TS]

  I have described it as a shot Cassidy's [TS]

  in its shaun cassidy gone [TS]

  Rorschach a supporting role forgot so is [TS]

  that all you need to know i would say [TS]

  this movie is it it's a coming-of-age [TS]

  movie that made other coming of age [TS]

  movies seem like they were lying to at [TS]

  least two like a seven-year-old me or [TS]

  something [TS]

  I the cast is pretty good like it's got [TS]

  the dennis quaid daniel stern jackie [TS]

  earle haley and a bunch of other [TS]

  people's names I don't know they could [TS]

  stuff the father guy [TS]

  stuff the father guy [TS]

  Paul doing yeah he's a lot of things [TS]

  he's great in this he played wimpy and [TS]

  Popeye that's not what is best known for [TS]

  probably not and it's the whole movie [TS]

  features like any kind of coming-of-age [TS]

  movie coming agent for boys i would say [TS]

  it features older kids this must be [TS]

  older than the kids are watching it [TS]

  slightly older doing dangerous things [TS]

  that kids might conceivably do like they [TS]

  drink alcohol they get into fights a [TS]

  chase girls they ride bicycles behind [TS]

  semi-trucks you know that they always [TS]

  throw on the one extra one in there [TS]

  that's outside the realm of reason but [TS]

  when you're watching it as like a seven [TS]

  or eight year old and I was just [TS]

  completely wrapped in fascinated by this [TS]

  and I think the later movies like The [TS]

  Breakfast Club a little bit this movie [TS]

  in terms of the way it starts you off [TS]

  with a bunch of stereotype characters [TS]

  we've got the you know the slacker guy [TS]

  the the nerdy you know the geek [TS]

  basically was into bicycling and the [TS]

  quarterback from the football team and [TS]

  over the course of the we break small [TS]

  down to show you this actually real [TS]

  people inside those stereotypes and I it [TS]

  you know it's not a John Hughes movie I [TS]

  think it's more raw more kind of 70s [TS]

  then then John Hughes movie and it holds [TS]

  a special place in my heart again [TS]

  probably because of the age that I saw [TS]

  that so if you if you have children who [TS]

  are maybe a seven eight nine year old [TS]

  boy I secretly get them to watch this [TS]

  movie and I think it will still work [TS]

  oh yeah I i can say living in indiana it [TS]

  nails Indiana and it's fun to watch [TS]

  because my wife went to Indiana [TS]

  University for graduate school and they [TS]

  shot the whole thing up here so it's fun [TS]

  to kind of see it 20 years before i was [TS]

  there no hey there's the Union they [TS]

  didn't used to have that there [TS]

  oh and if only the everybody in the [TS]

  movie was wearing shirts with the name [TS]

  of the University on it and there i [TS]

  would like to see you in Miami [TS]

  connection Breaking Away mashup that [TS]

  would be something and a guy wearing a [TS]

  t-shirt that says hot dog and the dog [TS]

  that you're in every movie there [TS]

  oh yeah all right except hotdog the [TS]

  movie ironic because they didn't have [TS]

  the budget for it [TS]

  Breaking Away good excellent pic John [TS]

  damn it's your turn [TS]

  well i'm back with another favorite of [TS]

  mine a movie that is loosely based on a [TS]

  shock home story actually and that is [TS]

  jake kasdan zero effect [TS]

  which is an excellent movie from 1998 [TS]

  that I've seen more times than I can [TS]

  remember that basically involves the [TS]

  story of a reclusive private I his one [TS]

  friend and in a very strange move his [TS]

  it's a ben stiller places assistant the [TS]

  straight man in the movie which is [TS]

  unusual for ben stiller and is the polar [TS]

  opposite of what i think is stiller's [TS]

  other best performance aside from this [TS]

  movie which is Zoolander in which he [TS]

  plays totally not a straight man but [TS]

  zero effect is very very good it's it's [TS]

  one of those lovely little like a cult [TS]

  movies that is small in its aspiration [TS]

  and it's setting it takes place in [TS]

  portland oregon i belief and it's just [TS]

  very it's a very tight [TS]

  well plotted and not ostentatious movie [TS]

  about this detective who is hired to [TS]

  essentially deal with a a blackmailer [TS]

  and it's bill pullman place the [TS]

  detective who's kind of socially inept [TS]

  and misanthropic and he essentially gets [TS]

  hired by Ryan O'Neal who plays a a [TS]

  businessman to figure out who's [TS]

  blackmailing him and it has a couple [TS]

  twists and turns along the way and some [TS]

  lovely character work by Bill Pullman as [TS]

  this shy totally out of it [TS]

  detective and it's just it's just a [TS]

  delightful very little movie you know [TS]

  it's not all about boat huge set pieces [TS]

  or what-have-you it's really just [TS]

  focused on this character drama between [TS]

  these these few characters but it's also [TS]

  amazingly funny at times my favourite [TS]

  bit from the film has to do with he's [TS]

  writing his sort of his memoirs you know [TS]

  about the art of detection and he has [TS]

  this bit on finding things and it's when [TS]

  you go looking for something specific [TS]

  your chances of finding it are very bad [TS]

  because of all the things in the world [TS]

  you're only looking for one of them but [TS]

  when you go looking for anything at all [TS]

  your chances of finding it are very good [TS]

  because of all the things the world [TS]

  you're sure to find some of them [TS]

  which i always think is a great it's [TS]

  like when I when ya looking for your [TS]

  keys so anyways it's a great movie lot [TS]

  of fun small little waves totally I [TS]

  think underrated when it came out but I [TS]

  feel like it's a it's developed a nice [TS]

  cult following so if you haven't seen it [TS]

  it's well worth it [TS]

  alright that's good zero effect they [TS]

  would they did a TV pilot but they [TS]

  didn't make it to the man [TS]

  sadly all right i am up and I'm gonna go [TS]

  with another movie beginning with Z so [TS]

  thank you Dan sure it's from a a little [TS]

  you have started smartest little [TS]

  little-known meal and a little-known a [TS]

  director writer director made this movie [TS]

  in 1983 it's Zelig by Woody Allen I iron [TS]

  i love Zelig I it's my favorite Woody [TS]

  Allen movie and I like Woody Allen I [TS]

  like a lot of his movies i could I mean [TS]

  there there are lots of them that I love [TS]

  actually but not live actually because [TS]

  Richard Curtis made that Selig is [TS]

  different in the sense that Zelig mean [TS]

  Woody Allen for for a guy who sometimes [TS]

  had that gives the impression that he [TS]

  makes the same movie over and over again [TS]

  he actually make some radically [TS]

  different movies he has lots of kind of [TS]

  magical realism and strange scenarios [TS]

  and almost sci-fi elements in a lot of [TS]

  his movies or fantasy elements is Ellie [TS]

  has a little bit of that but it's also [TS]

  told in mockumentary style which is [TS]

  interesting there are special effects [TS]

  that they had to do in order to you know [TS]

  before Forrest Gump was made there was [TS]

  le guerre where there was archival [TS]

  footage that was integrated with very [TS]

  cleverly with stuff from the actual the [TS]

  actors in the actual movie and it's [TS]

  telling the story of a man in letters [TS]

  Ellie who's played by Woody Allen and he [TS]

  is a nondescript nobody but he really [TS]

  wants to fit in and he has this amazing [TS]

  power to take on the characteristics of [TS]

  whoever's around with him he is the [TS]

  human chameleon and there are because [TS]

  it's in this documentary and this is all [TS]

  happening in the twenties there are all [TS]

  of these interviews with [TS]

  with famous people I that are in color [TS]

  that are in the present day and then [TS]

  there's this black and white archival [TS]

  footage and it is ace it is in many ways [TS]

  a silly kind of ridiculous movie but uh [TS]

  it's got an interesting subject which is [TS]

  somebody who just desperately wants to [TS]

  fit in and will do anything you can to [TS]

  fit in [TS]

  it's funny mia farrow as good as the [TS]

  psychiatrist who falls in love with the [TS]

  changing man lots of great gags and end [TS]

  you know a really good use of the [TS]

  mockumentary format and then also [TS]

  there's some some great kind of old [TS]

  songs as well as some fake old songs [TS]

  like the songs like do the chameleon and [TS]

  and some great man in the street [TS]

  interviews in the old black-and-white [TS]

  style i remember the guy in this movie [TS]

  who said i would like to be likely on [TS]

  gel rig the changing man it's like oh ok [TS]

  he didn't get his name right by whatever [TS]

  it's a great yeah I like it a lot of my [TS]

  favorite Woody Allen movies Zelig they [TS]

  even got make it so i think to sing the [TS]

  the chameleon song before the voice of [TS]

  betty boop was still around there she [TS]

  was analyzed when yeah she was also in [TS]

  his new york stories vignette yeah the [TS]

  greatest the greatest thing about this [TS]

  movie though is that this was [TS]

  pre-digital so everything had hinted to [TS]

  put to put woody allen in the background [TS]

  during an adolf hitler speech [TS]

  how the hell'd you do that but it's [TS]

  perfect you could not do better today [TS]

  than you then he did in the early 80s [TS]

  and I remember I remember reading in a [TS]

  effects magazine about how it really was [TS]

  all about having that kind of knowledge [TS]

  about well here is the sort of camera [TS]

  they would have used to shoot that in [TS]

  nineteen nineteen thirty-nine so we got [TS]

  to have something with the exact same [TS]

  properties the exact same film stock but [TS]

  oh yeah it you will be would totally [TS]

  believe this is a documentary nothing [TS]

  it's it's funny but nothing gives it [TS]

  away it's not there's no point which [TS]

  they go for the really cheap easy guy [TS]

  because it the gag is right there [TS]

  because they know that no no the reality [TS]

  we've set up prohibits us from doing a [TS]

  joke like that perfect stuff [TS]

  alright that's two rounds of the [TS]

  incompetent movie draft in the books [TS]

  only three more rounds to go and [TS]

  we'll get those three rounds in our next [TS]

  episode [TS]

  but for now for everybody here at the [TS]

  uncomfortable i like the bank and eco [TS]

  David lower Steve let's Monty Ashley [TS]

  John siracusa and more I'm just install [TS]

  your host will see you next time [TS]