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Cortex 51: Meeting for Lunch

 

00:00:00   hello Mike hi gray I feel like last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   we really clarified something mm-hmm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2">TS</a>]

00:00:06   know what's about to begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/6">TS</a>]

00:00:07   season two of cortex we did our clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/7">TS</a>]

00:00:12   show stroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14   looking back on cortex last time and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   talked about a bunch of things and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20   of them was talking about this idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/20">TS</a>]

00:00:21   we you and I are sort of meeting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   lunch and we're discussing our working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/23">TS</a>]

00:00:26   lives and talking things through and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/26">TS</a>]

00:00:29   for both of us this is a beneficial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/29">TS</a>]

00:00:33   process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/33">TS</a>]

00:00:34   it's like talking about the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37   you're doing helps you do things better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   even if you're not explicitly talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   about how to make your working life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   better and this is one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/44">TS</a>]

00:00:48   like I find I have this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/48">TS</a>]

00:00:49   conversation with lots of people in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   life and I feel like this is a learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   kind of skill but it's it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   that almost sounds so banal that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/56">TS</a>]

00:01:02   don't recognize it as a skill the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   just thinking in the background about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08   how you work and running it over every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11   once in a while and thinking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   things go and there was a there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   particular comment from the reddit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   I really liked that I felt like summed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/76">TS</a>]

00:01:18   this up and also pointed out the learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   nature of this skill and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/80">TS</a>]

00:01:25   comment from logic 42 who said the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/85">TS</a>]

00:01:29   I've learned from cortex is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/89">TS</a>]

00:01:30   introspection before cortex I just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/90">TS</a>]

00:01:33   things I didn't think about the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   of getting things done by simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   considering the meta problem I began to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/97">TS</a>]

00:01:40   see ways to improve and I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43   feel like that's what we're doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/103">TS</a>]

00:01:44   Mike you and I were engaged in the meta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   process and hopefully we're bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/106">TS</a>]

00:01:51   listeners along with us on this ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/111">TS</a>]

00:01:55   and from this comment and the reddit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   feel like it is evidenced that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   accomplishing this thing so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   mentioned you mention it last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   mention at this time the idea of of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   and you just basically having our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   lunches but we've Skype in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   whoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/130">TS</a>]

00:02:11   you know where we just sit down and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   about the way that we work and that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   been rattling around in my brain quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   lot and I'm thinking about trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   find ways to incorporate that that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   of process into the show even more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/145">TS</a>]

00:02:25   mm-hm and one of the reasons is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   everybody in their lives has this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   that they're able to talk to so then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33   actually help fulfill that for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   people I think right like as as is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   pointed out by logic 42 it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   sometimes you're just hearing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   conversations helps people yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/162">TS</a>]

00:02:46   that's what that's a real that's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   I don't know I don't know how to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   it very well but like I'm not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/171">TS</a>]

00:02:52   believer in like the abstract notion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   like like the self-help section of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58   bookstore right which i think is mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   garbage and fraud are' and you say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   you really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   luxe tourism right but but I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/186">TS</a>]

00:03:11   is like I have found in my own life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/191">TS</a>]

00:03:15   there was there was real value to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/195">TS</a>]

00:03:19   hearing people explaining their thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/199">TS</a>]

00:03:23   process about why they do a thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   I'm aware of like when I listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29   podcasts that is something I am always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   really interested in it's like oh I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   to hear somebody explain their reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36   for doing a thing even if it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39   you have no interest in doing that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   or you have no interest in that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43   directly like if there's I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/223">TS</a>]

00:03:47   is benefit to being just like exposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/227">TS</a>]

00:03:51   this person who's just explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   something and I have found that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/233">TS</a>]

00:03:58   advantage in hearing someone just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   talk through their working process which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   then just ends up making me think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/244">TS</a>]

00:04:07   the way that I do things and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/247">TS</a>]

00:04:11   for the other thing that I have I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12   found is is like it is a Taysom what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/252">TS</a>]

00:04:19   rarer skill then I might have first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/259">TS</a>]

00:04:20   imagined in the world like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/260">TS</a>]

00:04:23   thing I was really aware of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   I working life that I found a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/265">TS</a>]

00:04:29   colleagues just didn't fall into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   category of like doing doing that meta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/271">TS</a>]

00:04:35   problem analysis like thinking about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/275">TS</a>]

00:04:39   things happen as opposed to giving an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   answer like oh we just always do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   that's why you're like you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44   sticking with the the first way that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   thing is being done so that's why I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   it useful to talk to somebody else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   yourself and I think that it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   useful to listen to other people doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   the same thing even if you're not a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   of that conversation because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   something that I have been doing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   years myself with podcasts about a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/303">TS</a>]

00:05:07   ago I read this article motherboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   about professional wrestling podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12   and the idea is that and the headline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   says it all really podcasts are group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17   therapy sessions for pro wrestling fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20   with the idea being that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23   that like professional wrestling tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   not to have somebody else in their life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26   that also likes it right right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   professional wrestling podcasts are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   popular and they are massively popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   because these people don't get to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   to anybody else about it so they get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   listen to the podcasts that other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   make about this stuff ooh and I expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   that there is a kind of weird similarity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/342">TS</a>]

00:05:46   between those shows on this show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/346">TS</a>]

00:05:47   that I don't know how many people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   listen to the show really have somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   else in their life that they can talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   about their to do system right all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/354">TS</a>]

00:05:58   but if people get that enjoyment out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   listening to me and you chat about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   we have to think we have this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/362">TS</a>]

00:06:03   similar thing with the pen addict as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   well mm-hmm you know how many people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   you know in your life that really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   pens like a very very deep level well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   any and Brad do you know you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/371">TS</a>]

00:06:15   similar kind of thing yeah it is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18   definitely the case and like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/378">TS</a>]

00:06:21   sometimes when we recording the show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/381">TS</a>]

00:06:22   have a real feeling of I know that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/382">TS</a>]

00:06:27   much younger version of myself would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/387">TS</a>]

00:06:30   listen to this show right like I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   of that as a thing that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   particularly with the boom of podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   like in the last five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   I feel like this this was not a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   that was around particularly like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   was a kid was being able to hear people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46   just kind of like talk through a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   of stuff and I know like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49   definitely something I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   listened to when I was younger and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/411">TS</a>]

00:06:55   so that's that's like that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   happening here like we've because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   like sometimes when people describe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00   what that what the show is sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02   said like oh it's a Productivity show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03   and even right from the start I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   always felt like that that is never it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08   never quite sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09   or for what this show is but I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/429">TS</a>]

00:07:12   been able to figure out a better a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   better way to describe it quickly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   and we still may not have a good way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   describe the show quickly but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   something about this idea of like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   open lunch conversation that is around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/445">TS</a>]

00:07:30   the topic of our working lives like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/450">TS</a>]

00:07:33   that is a more accurate description of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   what the show is and it's really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   really like gelled something in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   about what we're doing here and it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   took 50 episodes to work it out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   that's pretty good yeah like yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   the thing like hey listen if you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   there and you're starting a podcast let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   this be a lesson to you you may go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   quite a while before you feel like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   really know what I'm doing here this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   episode of cortex is brought to you by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   our friends over fresh books we spend so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   much time on this show talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   what it's like to work independently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   this can be a freelancer where we run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   your own company it doesn't matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   it is you're going to have people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   you need to send invoices to and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/489">TS</a>]

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00:09:32   cortex and real AFM why don't we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   about productivity a little bit just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/575">TS</a>]

00:09:38   idea of that phrase and what it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42   because in the same way that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   refer to this shows being a Productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/584">TS</a>]

00:09:47   show I think it's it's it was useful for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   me and you to try and explain what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   actually think that term even really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   means and how it applies to us because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/593">TS</a>]

00:09:59   productivity I think is very frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/599">TS</a>]

00:10:03   mixed up with the term of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/603">TS</a>]

00:10:08   workaholic mm-hmm and I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/608">TS</a>]

00:10:12   that that works very well I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   considered myself a workaholic because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/614">TS</a>]

00:10:17   actually don't know if that is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/619">TS</a>]

00:10:20   you know like the idea of getting in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/620">TS</a>]

00:10:24   the office a a.m. and leaving at 7:00 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   because you're just so busy mmm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   never sat with me for me it was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   about like how can I get out of here at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   5:00 and that was the part that was me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   being productive who's like I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   get out of this office as close to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   o'clock as possible how do I get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45   here at 9:00 a.m. to there at 5:00 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/645">TS</a>]

00:10:49   more activity for me yeah that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/649">TS</a>]

00:10:53   was my exact same thing when I was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   a teacher what was that like when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   when the kids go home I want to be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   home in like 20 minutes after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   sprint and it's like I really I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/664">TS</a>]

00:11:09   do like their there are some there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/669">TS</a>]

00:11:14   some elements of my personality which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   obviously like you just you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   like they've just been with me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/678">TS</a>]

00:11:19   forever but I think that that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   being in the working world really honed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/681">TS</a>]

00:11:25   for me like an informed a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/685">TS</a>]

00:11:28   idea of of like how I think about a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/688">TS</a>]

00:11:33   of things related to work it's like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/693">TS</a>]

00:11:34   I'm looking for here is maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   effectiveness in minimum amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/696">TS</a>]

00:11:40   toward a goal and the goal is to go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   right as fast as possible yep and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   like spent so much time thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/706">TS</a>]

00:11:49   all of these various ways to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   seconds on a thing right the like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   would add up overall weight well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   this very different question from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/717">TS</a>]

00:12:02   raw output I think I don't know if I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/722">TS</a>]

00:12:05   mentioned it before but one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/725">TS</a>]

00:12:05   favorite examples of trying to save time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   was like thinking about the meta thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   is my least favorite part of the job was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   writing reports for the kids which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   the whole like long complicated thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16   and there's there was so many things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/736">TS</a>]

00:12:20   did to try to streamline this process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   but the best bang for the buck ever was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   I had to sign every one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   profiles for the kids and I thought one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/746">TS</a>]

00:12:30   day pull anybody notice and or care if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   when I print them off of the printer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34   just put my signature directly on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37   so it's just printed off the pot a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   template yeah on a template and I played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   around with it a little bit so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   the signature printing ink looked as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/763">TS</a>]

00:12:47   real as I could make a signature look by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   also lightening the whole rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/770">TS</a>]

00:12:51   document so it looks like I'm signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   with a slightly darker pen that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   being printed right it's like yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   laughs right but it matters because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   am I doing here like I'm trying to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   if anyone will care about this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   which doesn't make any difference right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   like is the profile any better if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   personally sign it no because I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   working like I'm working on this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   anyway and that what that was the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12   I did and his like man I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   many hours of time that saved me but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   answer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17   lot where like things would come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   like oh you haven't signed this or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   don't have to sit down and do it that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   me is like a pure example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   Productivity win it's like doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   affect the output at all and decreases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/806">TS</a>]

00:13:29   the amount that I have to do to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   get this thing done so when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   managing a bank branch I had to sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   probably more things than you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37   because I'm gonna guess I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   you know but basically the but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   branch manager basically puts their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   signature on everything right your a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   signature machine isn't yet they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   actually hired so I changed my signature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   oh yeah yeah so I just made it this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/830">TS</a>]

00:13:54   little squiggle as opposed to anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   that would even slightly resemble my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   name because I was unhappy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   amount of time that it would take for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   to sign everything your kids that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   productivity right there yeah that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   what we think for activity is and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/846">TS</a>]

00:14:09   will not be surprised to hear that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/849">TS</a>]

00:14:10   the exact same thing upon becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   teacher very very quickly realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   writing out GRE why in a legible way is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18   not worth my time septa ball yeah and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   signature became a recognizable G with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   line that dipped briefly to like vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26   indicate that maybe there's a why here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27   and then continued onward and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   yep that's it good enough it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   identifiable enough when we need to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   through the paperwork so we know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   signed what but it's like the minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   amount of time I can possibly take is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   like I'm not Precious about my signature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   like the hell with you do you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43   different signature when you sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/883">TS</a>]

00:14:44   autographs uh you might not well answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/884">TS</a>]

00:14:49   that question I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50   well the okay so the tricky thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   the autographs is I feel I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   compelled to include my initials when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   do the autograph yeah yeah right so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   it takes long but the the the gray is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01   very similar to my teacher signature is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04   perhaps a little less stylized because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/904">TS</a>]

00:15:07   feel I feel like there's there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10   a moment of there's a moment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   importance like when someone has asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14   you to sign a thing like that's a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   think about a time on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/916">TS</a>]

00:15:17   yeah and it's it's it's like a it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   like a strange amount of pressure and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   well I just I just pay more attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   right where's what I had to sign stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   professionally it's like yeah whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   like you just need an indication the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   this piece of paper it doesn't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   actually look good because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34   signing a thing is a slightly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   domain area that it has to this look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/936">TS</a>]

00:15:40   better so me and you talking about work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/940">TS</a>]

00:15:44   is not necessarily the same as talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   about productivity and it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   reasons that every now and then we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   about video games because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   productivity enables the video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57   right yeah it's the whole thing it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   whole piece yeah it's it's like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   like just like you were saying that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   want to get at five I wanted to leave as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   soon after the children leave as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   possible it's like the thing the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11   that has carried through from that is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/971">TS</a>]

00:16:14   this idea that the work is in service of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/974">TS</a>]

00:16:18   some other goal and my feeling has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21   always been like the goal that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   aiming for is to build a life that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/983">TS</a>]

00:16:27   want to live and a life that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   live is is not the same thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/990">TS</a>]

00:16:34   producing the maximum number of videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/994">TS</a>]

00:16:38   that is possible like these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   in these things are in conflict it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   like I want to make videos but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   like all of all of my thoughts around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   work and gradations and the tools we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   talked about and everything we've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52   done is is a question about effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:56   making videos in a sustainable way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1016">TS</a>]

00:17:00   the long term and and that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:04   same thing necessarily as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:08   productive in the way that you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   about like an economy is productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   which means like every year the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   of copper forged goes up like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:17   that's a very different way I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   it's interesting that people sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20   conflate these things and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23   it's it's an interesting thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   sometimes hard hard to can convey is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   this is this idea of like yes I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   concerned with the effectiveness of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:35   but that question is not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   related to the volume of work when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:42   see me talking about video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   you can feel very assured that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   been productive right and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:51   that statement it could be could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   written with either our names underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   it because it's like if I am able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   this it means I've taken care of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:00   mmm and and it is like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03   productivity the idea of getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   work done what that is like it is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   service of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:08   mm-hm and it's the that's what year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   less was mmm and it's what you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:14   I'm six months into my year of less and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:17   haven't really paid much attention to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18   I was gonna ask about how that was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   but I am again it popped up in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   the other day because I realized that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   have a much smaller appetite for being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:33   part of new projects hmm like relay FM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:38   can be and is but my involvement my like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:44   day-to-day direct involvement ie as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:48   host who that appetite is going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   over time so you're talking about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:54   desire to do new shows yes mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   my problem is my appetite for new ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:08   can never be filled and so I have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:12   paying attention to this and doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:15   couple of different things one is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:19   trying my best to not start new things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:23   mm-hmm right they're like things pop up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26   in my head opportunities come my way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   I think about them a lot more deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:31   than I would have in the past like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   if something doesn't feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   complete no-brainer then I I spend more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39   time thinking about it like I have spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42   too much time in my career over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:46   seven years of allowing myself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:52   completely taken by a whim Lu and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:57   of those things have turned out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   great and some of them haven't been and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01   I need to do a better job and I am doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:05   a better job of trying to quantify these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:06   decisions of a scale that is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:09   just excitement level mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   because what I am trying to avoid is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:14   inevitable burnout yeah and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17   slashing of projects because I enjoy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   of my current projects that's why I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   them but if I add much more on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   that that's going to be a problem so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:29   of the other things that I've done to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:30   prepare myself for this is what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31   been speaking about for months is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   getting help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:33   hmm you know having an assistant now who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   helps me has been a great way to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:42   with this because what I'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   staving off the Burnell with my current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   project level right that's what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   done I've secured that so all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:52   that I'm currently doing I now feel less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55   pressure than I did maybe three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   months ago about my current workload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00   this is exactly the thing that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   going through last year with year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   less right like is is this exact thing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   feeling like needing to have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:12   specific reasons to pick up a side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   project for example right or needing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:19   be able to to take parts of the job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:24   try to hand them to somebody else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27   in I want to say before about this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   like trying to build a life that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   want to live like I find it I find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:35   really effective when thinking about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   working life and this has always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   the case right from the start is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   most effective thing is to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:42   eliminate or reduce the thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   dislike as opposed to what is often the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:48   more compelling part which is to add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:53   new more exciting thing right and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:57   and I have found that that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   definitely held true for me that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   time is better invested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   recognising and eliminating or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:07   outsourcing parts of the business that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:11   don't like or that are causing me stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12   like that that is way better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   building a life that I want to live then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   adding a new thing that I'm super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   excited about like I think excitement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23   almost against it's good it's good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   have about a project but I think at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29   certain point when you you have a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   of things that are successful it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:36   quickly become a kind of I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:40   like a red herring that you're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   chasing is like excitement alone at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:44   certain point does not become enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   justify working on a thing when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   already working on a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   things like you have to start thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   about stuff in a in a much more ruthless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   way I actually have a related I'll score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:59   text question so jason wrote in about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   side projects to say do they get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   bored or distracted and find themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   moving on to something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:08   very constantly before finishing current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11   projects leaving behind like a trail of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   unfinished things mm-hm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15   so Jason asks do you have any tips for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   getting over the slump that comes after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   the initial excitement now the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   find these two things to be connected is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   in just what you were saying right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:27   like that it's way too easy to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:31   attracted by that bright light that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   shiny thing and go to it this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:37   something that I have been doing over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   the last six months or so you wanted one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:42   of the things that I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:43   about with my balance is to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:47   excitement in existing projects so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:51   like manufacture for myself new things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:55   to do and to find things within those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:59   projects to make exciting to find new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:04   experiences or new ways of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   about something that I'm currently doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   or shaking something up like I have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   a real proponent of the stuff that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   done in my podcasting career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   of rebranding shows and repackaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   shows if I have gotten tired of a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:22   format to like shake it up give it a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   name give it a new coat of paint and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   give myself the ability to kind of jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   in and reboot it before it gets to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:35   me for me mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   so like I have in the past like I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   to do this interview show every week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   right I think it had four different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   names over it's like three or four year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   career because it was like a way for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   to give something a kickstart again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50   to kind of push forward right and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:55   I it's really difficult to find these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   things but it's just something that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   been trying to pay more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03   attention to to like take the projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   that work really well and add new stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   to it as a way to try and keep me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10   interested in and invested yeah when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   related to the the other part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   question about you know how do you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:18   do you not have a graveyard of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   unfinished things as I well we all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   graveyards of unfinished things like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   have I have a graveyard of unfinished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   things the vast Josie's bigger than most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   right vast vast Arlington Cemetery of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:34   unfinished things it's it's enormous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:37   but one of the things I measure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:41   thinking about you know changes that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   made last year about being more ruthless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   with the kind of projects that I take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   and what I feel really good about is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   the last you know since starting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   year of less I have gotten way better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:56   what ends up in that graveyard like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:00   feel better about those projects as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   opposed to taking on a bunch of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   that's even if it worked out would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:11   just continued to add to my workflow so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   I think one of the biggest things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:16   has made it made a huge difference for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   me is is like thinking about new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   projects they have they have to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22   the category of things that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   completed so that they are finished at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:27   particular date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   things that can be handed off largely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:33   some but somebody else or things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:36   add an extremely minimal amount of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:40   for a very good payoff and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:44   when I look at my graveyard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   unfinished things those projects are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   much more in in that domain than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:53   are like oh let me start up a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54   brand new thing which would give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   whole brand new job to do if it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   out to be successful so there is a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:01   to think about the quality of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   going into the graveyard not just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   number of tombstones that are there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   like what is buried matters as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10   to just the fact that a thing was buried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   happened I think it's crazy to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   avoid to avoid that like and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   also there's also the side effect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19   like you just don't know where things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   are going to go sometimes and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   about my my current year right here of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27   redirection like I am really happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:31   a bunch of the decisions that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:32   made about how to how to run my business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   this year have directly led to having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:39   bunch of free time to be able to noodle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:43   around with projects that may or may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:44   turn into anything but I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   have a better ability to dedicate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:51   bunch of time to a thing that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:52   interesting even if I'm not exactly sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:55   where it's going to go and and to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   evaluate it a little bit before thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01   about it really seriously so it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:04   it's a it's a hard it's a hard thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   to answer but I do think the graveyard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09   of unfinished things is is important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:12   keep growing you just need to be mindful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:17   about how it is growing like what kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:20   of things are going in there like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   things going in there that like let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   honest you were never really going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:25   are like oh like that that Mandarin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28   course right you got Rosetta Mandarin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   and you were going to learn that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31   was that really going to happen probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   not like that doesn't seem like a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   project so how much value you extracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:39   from live streaming your truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:43   because you know you talk about minimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   work I know you spent a significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   amount of time attempting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   troubleshoot that thing okay okay all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   right is it I think I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:54   actually mean right no no you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57   being me you're not be mean I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:58   is this is a great example because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:01   let me take a moment to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   something that is probably not obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:06   to the people who are watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   streaming so the streaming that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:13   happening in the last couple of weeks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   totally 100% an example of me changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:20   things to have more free time to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   to dump a bunch of time in a very narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   window into a single project which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:30   like I'm gonna figure out how to stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   right which turned out to be more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36   technical challenge tonight than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37   expected it would be right but the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   way this started is like I can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:43   point I can actually point to the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   video which is Hank green of vlog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:50   brothers and VidCon and crash course and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   a million things very productive ma'am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   yeah he's like the Richard Branson of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:58   the Internet's he just can't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   creating new things Hank did have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:04   video on his on his personal Channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   Hanks channel where he was just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   through some of the statistics for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:12   YouTube channels that he runs they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   just like talking talking through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   and I thought like oh this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   exactly the kind of thing I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   interested in to see a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   data behind somebody else's business and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20   I went to go watch it and the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:25   kicked off my whole streaming was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   watching him in the very first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   minutes just simply setting up what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32   was going to do was a live stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33   because he didn't pre record that video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   he was just going to go through it live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   and like take questions from people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38   the comments and talk about some stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   and as dumb as this ask is like okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   I am a person who is not watch streams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   I'm not really into streaming I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   like I never really got it but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   watching him do the pre setup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   something about that suddenly clicked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   where I could see before the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   was quote ready he was obviously using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   some kind of software to arrange all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   windows just the way he wanted to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   little overlay on it so that it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04   nice and it's the simplest thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   world but it was a thing that suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   clicked in my head of like ah okay I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   somehow always thought that streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13   was simply recording the computer screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   as you're looking at it which always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   seemed like a huge hassle from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:19   perspective but seeing that like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   there's a tool to set this up what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:25   found about that was like I I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:29   when I don't know where I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   but something about this feels like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35   skill that I should add to my repertoire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   of things that I can do on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   and this is like I feel like my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:46   career is based on trusting some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:50   instincts in my brain like recognizing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:53   certain kind of interest and and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   was definitely one of those things of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   realizing like I don't know where when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   this might be useful but I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   would be good to know how to stream so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04   that if I ever want to do it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07   have to at that moment invest several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:10   days in messing around with the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   and figuring out how to make everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13   look right and getting it all done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   so the truck streaming project wall is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:19   partly just fun and interesting to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:23   to do the truck streaming one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   main purposes of that project is I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:29   to have another tool in my tool belt I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   don't necessarily have a purpose for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   now but I have a gut feeling that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:37   at some point I will want to know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   do this and and be able to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   immediately and I'm like I'm investing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   that time now this is so funny to me why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48   because what you had watching Hank is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:52   what I have watching you so when I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   you doing it I'm realized like you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:59   talking about the tools that you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:00   using mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   I then realized oh this isn't what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   thought it was right I could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:07   look that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   Arius I cut that's so funny cuz like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   it's been in my head I can't get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   my head like I keep I keep looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   these like streaming boxes and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   and I just want to show everybody how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:20   play Zelda right but this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23   perfect example of you know last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:26   gray wouldn't really have had the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   to guilt free just do this at like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:33   know I'm always mentioning side projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   like there's a bunch of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:35   people just don't see like this is two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   of the things I'm working on which like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39   people just don't see but this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   example of a thing that people can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   but I just don't think it's I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46   lot of people watching it aren't aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   of like what is what is it that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   doing here and and this is what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   doing I'm intentionally trying to add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   skill to the list of things that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:57   do on the Internet okay and as as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   self-employed person who like cobbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   together a bunch of skills to to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   work together in a productive way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   this just seems to me like a skill that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   I should definitely have ready to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:13   even if I'm not using it intensely at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:17   any particular moment I think anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   that is self employed should or does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   have this about them especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   work in a creative space because at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:30   point the thing that you do could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   away yeah and having a vast skill set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:38   which you can apply to other things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   very important it is the reason that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   started making YouTube videos yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   yeah that's it that's exactly that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   great comparison right as you just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:49   want to be aware of other things and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:53   other thing as well as like aside from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54   just trying to figure out technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   how to do a thing there was a real part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   of my brain which just felt like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   understand streaming on the Internet as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:05   in I don't really understand why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   watch streams I don't understand really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   what's going on on the streams it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   is it was just outside of my domain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:14   expertise but I also think like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   this is an important meta skill to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   cultivate is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   curiosity over dismissal right it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   really easy to dismiss things as like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:31   whatever those people are doing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32   they're watching people play video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   live like isn't that dumb alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   because like is it dumb or do you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   not understand what they're doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   and I feel like that was also part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43   this processes like I want to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   intuitive understanding of what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   and I think I have a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   understanding of it now than I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:51   before I started it's very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:54   articulate I feel in this in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57   way that like I've always said like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   teacher training there's just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   stuff you just have to do in a classroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   like the no amount of learning ahead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05   time will actually prepare you for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:06   like you just have to be in charge of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   bunch of kids before you really get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   teachers mean when they say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   consistency is really important it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:13   like you but you don't understand until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14   you're there and I feel like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   something similar about that with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   streaming like I don't feel like I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19   it 100% yet but I feel like um 75% of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:24   the way there but it's very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25   articulate because it's just a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   that you have to do and and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:31   what's going on in in this side project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:34   of mine is skill acquisition and feeding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:39   curiosity about new things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:42   coming along instead of just ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   them potentially to the detriment of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   business in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2207">TS</a>]

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00:37:07   or you're finding a way to make laundry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2227">TS</a>]

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00:37:57   this show the people have spoken gray I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   don't think it's legitimate Mike because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   you riled them up it doesn't matter they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   they needed to know first and once I let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:09   them know they felt the need to request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   in droves in waves of cortex listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:16   want to know why you left the iPhone se [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:20   and went back to the iPhone 7 I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:24   want to again get it on record here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:25   I feel like you fomented a mob right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   that's that's what you did last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28   think that it's really unfair for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   refer to our listeners that way to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34   this around all I'm doing I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   trying to provide them with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   information to let them choose you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42   we didn't hear from anyone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   specifically said they didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45   hear about this yeah yeah yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:48   cuz that's who that's who you hear tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:49   from is the people who don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   hear about a thing if they really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   want to know tell you you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   enough they don't you never you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   get the people who say no if I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   the silent majority they're not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   represented here but I know Mike I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:04   like um I feel so hesitant to tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:09   story because I feel like it's a tale of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   woe right a tale of woe and there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13   been many tales of woe about Apple stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   that is probably why I just I sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:17   haven't wanted to talk about it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20   don't I don't know where to begin how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   long ago did you move away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   iPhone se uh okay so it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:31   actually like days before you spotted me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:36   using the iPhone 7 cult you know okay if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:40   you want to use the word caught if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   want to frame this in a particular way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43   you go right ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   well all I remember is the look on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   face when I asked you what that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   and you just looked at me and you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:52   you didn't want to talk about it in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   pocket no no don't you don't you jealous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   I'm all teary that is and then we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   see you again for the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   weekend no just to be clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   Mike is full of lies and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   happened at the Google conference there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06   what actually happened is I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   using it in front of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09   and he asked me about it I was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   don't want to get into it now and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14   whatever this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:14   six months later I still have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:17   into it I just want to let our listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   know that this has been something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   have been trying to get great to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22   about for six months now every now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:26   then it's just sat in our show document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   and I move it in and then gray adds a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   little line that says I'm not ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   talk about this yet but clearly some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   timers heal all wounds well no I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:40   mostly it's just that like we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   we're getting up to new iPhone season so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:43   if we don't talk about it like we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   have wasted a topic right that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   what's that's what's happened also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:48   there'll be like a confusion gap when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:51   you talk about moving from one phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:52   the other yeah yeah there'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   confusion gap okay so I guess I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2454">TS</a>]

00:41:01   the place to start is like what did i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02   what did I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   what was my initial reasoning here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   is this is partly connected to what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:10   was thinking about four-year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   redirection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13   which now I can't even remember what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:14   hell the original idea what I was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   call it was your new I think maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   thought what was seems like you yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   which was get the wrong name in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   sense yeah the exact opposite of what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   was actually intending to do you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   also call a year of more yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:28   exactly you're more by which I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   actually be doing less I mean more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31   less right yeah in the year of less what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   did I do more I did more more than I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   ever done like but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   understand the way I mean these words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39   people uh but so anyway looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:43   to what I was thinking about doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   towards the end of 2016 and throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   2017 one of the things that was on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:52   list was more traveling in a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:57   different ways more more traveling both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   for personal reasons and more traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   for business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   reasons and that is definitely something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   that has happened as I anticipated like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:09   I've been on way more flights in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   last six to eight months then I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   on in the past many years in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17   six months maybe in the last year I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20   seen you more overseas than in London I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:24   said yeah you know what I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   right yeah I think I think you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   totally right about that yeah I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:32   think that is an exaggeration um so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:36   I don't always mention it on on podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   buts like I've done more traveling than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:39   I thought I make reference to and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42   thinking about this and part of my like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:49   one of the big things that's frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   about traveling for me is a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   range anxiety about the batteries in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   devices that I use I feel like so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   of my life is just spent around managing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2578">TS</a>]

00:42:59   batteries yeah and it's getting like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:03   is really getting worse like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04   I've crossed some kind of threshold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   where there's just so many batteries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:09   worry about it drives me crazy it is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   far and away one of my biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   complaints about technology in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15   modern world yeah is battery management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:18   and like let like laying out all my gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   and obsessively trying to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22   what's the minimum number of wires that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   I can take that will cover all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   devices and it's it's it's frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   and it's it's yeah it's annoying and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:34   particular the device that you do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   want to die on you while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:38   traveling is the phone what this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   the most important thing that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   to keep alive and basically what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:48   thinking of is like I wanted to try the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:52   iPhone 7 with the battery pack because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:57   since ever since the the iPhone the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:01   first time was the 6 of the 6s I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02   remember where they came out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   battery pack which I think you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   showed me first on this podcast someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   I think that was you yeah you hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   seen it yeah yeah that's what it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   hadn't seen it and I was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   abject horror from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   you but you have but you were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   interested in it yeah I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   interested in it and I was super annoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   they didn't make it for the the six plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22   or the 6s plus whatever it was at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   time so ever since that came out when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:30   wife and I go traveling she uses her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   phone with the battery pack and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33   always been hugely impressed by how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   her phone lasts even when she's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   some intensive pokey hunting as we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   traveling around the world right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:42   like look like you got to catch them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   Mike that was also mindful I think so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:48   was like I was always very interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:49   that and I feel like I have terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:53   luck with iPhone batteries like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   iPhone it just it feels like it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   lasts as long as it should I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   barely use my phone and it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   through half the day and if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   traveling and I've mentioned this to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   in a numerous times like if I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   Amsterdam right or if I'm flying I swear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   to god it's like the battery just drops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   like a rock I feel like I'm not touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:13   you like I put you in low-power mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   straight away I've just left you in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   pocket like I'm specifically not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   touching you phone and it's like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   just drops the battery just dropped so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   fast it's a huge frustration I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   suspicion that it's related to low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   signal but that's what the phone that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   what's causing the problem is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31   lots of situation with the signal is low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   in the battery just drops yeah that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   is like the most surefire way to destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   a phone battery is when it's searching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39   for a network yeah like I'm sitting on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   train and I can feel it warm in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42   pocket and it's like what are you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   phone is like oh you're you're switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:45   cell carriers every every five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:48   you know it's like just even around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:49   London like even just today I had a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52   a very normal morning where I barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   used the phone and I got home at noon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   and the battery was down to 50% as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   oh right but I spent some time in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2758">TS</a>]

00:45:59   low signal areas like it's just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   endless frustration and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   particularly bad on traveling so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   thought you know what I'm gonna do I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:05   gonna try to use the iPhone 7 with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:08   battery pack because if I'm if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   traveling a bunch this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14   important to me to not lose the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   this doesn't feel like enough well let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   me just like the thing I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   interested to see is like because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   been going to some conferences I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:25   of like how much more the phone really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:29   matters a conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:29   in ways that I wouldn't have expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   like it's interesting just to go now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   you're totally right is is this enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   there's a few other things that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:37   happened one of the primary things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38   that's happened which I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   want to get into it like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41   there's so many stories here but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42   just don't want to get into all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   so we're going to try to move past some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45   things but one of them is one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:48   reasons why I moved down to the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   se was also if you remember I had taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   up running around that time and running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:57   with a plus-size phone is like a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:00   deal-breaker it's a it's a real pain in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   the butt to have a plus-size phone can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   literally be a pain in the butt it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   literally be a pain like I'm on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   running gear the only pocket like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   leasts are the least uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12   pocket is like a pocket on the back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   then it is literally a pain in the butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15   you can't fit with us nowhere to live no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   there's no way to live so I switched out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   to BSE is like a huge advantage while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21   running like enormous advantage while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   running now and I was running three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   times a week up again like story I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   want to get into I eventually decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   like I had give running enough of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31   try and realized I hate you running I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   thought this is not for me this is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   story you need to explain to me there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   of all physical exertion running is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:43   least favorite like I hate running up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   passion there is I don't understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   anybody enjoys it my brother just ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50   the London Marathon oh I enjoyed it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   and I don't understand how that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:58   thing that is possible for a human to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:02   experience I just can't I just called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   out yeah so it's like I wanted to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   it a fair try I felt like I gave it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:07   fair try and could reasonably come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10   the conclusion that like this is not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   me I don't like so happy cuz I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   was annoyed that you were running I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:18   never mentioned it but I hate it why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:22   you hate it I just felt like of everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   that I know you would be the person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   would also not like running well guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:29   you're right I'm so happy to hear this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:34   so I switch running for the exercise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:37   vastly prefer which is cycling and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:41   it's like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42   in cycling like you're on a bike it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   whole different equipment set up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   you have you like baskets to hold things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   there's like you're bringing equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   with you you have them like it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   totally different set up and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:53   like cycling well you know I can't win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56   every time with you Mike but so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2936">TS</a>]

00:49:00   the case we're like the SE it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   matter so much I thought like I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   give I'm gonna give the seven to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   what I was what I wanted to also try was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:10   if I just use this with the battery pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:13   all the time right not just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   traveling if I just use it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   battery pack can I get used to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   physical size that I don't like does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   battery pack make it big enough in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   hands that it's not uncomfortable to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28   and so like that that's what I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   that's what I wanted to try I still feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   like there is an important part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:33   though oh oh yeah there is sorry there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   is there is one more thing okay there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   one more thing which I will straight up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   acknowledge is a kind of personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:45   flaw with me but is the thing like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   recognize about myself and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:51   that I recognize is if I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:55   something and I feel like that thing has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:58   no future I have a very hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:01   continuing to use it okay and I became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05   more and more convinced that I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   using a dead phone what about it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:12   old it was that - that play into it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   were using an old product the oldest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17   like I know you will think that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   the the factor but that is very minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:23   factor it's it's much more that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   kept being convinced like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   Apple is ever going to make a phone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   this size again okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   didn't want to get too used to again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   yeah that was kind of it like I I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   that phone but it was it just kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   niggling in the back of my mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:40   it's like well like this phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:44   already dead right in my hands like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   just I'm like I'm like a sucker holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:51   on to a bygone era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   and like this is this is a part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:58   personality which again like sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3058">TS</a>]

00:50:59   I'll recognize that it can be a flaw and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   sometimes it is amazing but it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   just I cannot look backward like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:07   a really hard time with that and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   something in the present feels like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   the future it will be backward I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   now this I can't I can't deal with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   cuz you know the whole time I'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   here thinking like there is a myriad of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   battery cases that would fit the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   se [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22   okay so slight other thing I had already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   tried doing a whole bunch of battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   cases with the SE and all of them had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   various frustrations and a long story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:32   short none of them worked as well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   battery case on the seven not not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37   close so I use battery cases I had used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:41   battery case on the SE while traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   and they were better than nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   but so the conclusion of this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   okay so I tried these various reasons I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   got the seven I got the battery case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   my experience of it was this battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:55   case is glorious because it finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3115">TS</a>]

00:52:00   takes the phone into like what that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   the Apple watch is where it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   don't ever have to really think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   this as long as I plug it in for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   amount of time once in the day I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   have to think about what the battery is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   on this phone and over time that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   for me like now I am used to it the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:19   it looks when I see it because initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   it was like one of the ugliest things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:22   I've ever seen Apple make because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   like this hump on the back of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   mm-hmm I have also since held one mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:29   and it is really a tale of function over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:33   form it is stupid to have this just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:37   a hump on the back of the phone for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:40   reasons I think it looks really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:41   and like you put it down on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   and you press something in on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:44   that it flips over when you're holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   it in your hand like you rest your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:50   kind of around the bump and it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   is really nice to hold and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   feel like how a lot of these battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:58   cases feel where you feel like you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   doubled the thickness of your phone yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   yeah that's the other problem is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:05   apples using a lot of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:06   integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   and they're able to pull a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   tricks part of which is that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   using the female lightning connector on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   the bottom which is a huge win again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   because if talking about battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:16   management is like the number of cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17   if I can make the number of cables less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18   this is a win it's like if I can avoid a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   microUSB that's fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   like I don't want to have to have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   these yeah that sucks it's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   annoyance but I have I have just nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29   but tremendous praise for the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   case for the seven and it to me it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:34   like what the battery of a phone should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   be which is I can even with reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:42   heavy use on a travel day expect that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   this phone will make it till the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   the day without being plugged in which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   just I don't feel like that's a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   ask but I know that with modern phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   design it apparently is yeah they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   do it if they could yeah everyone wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   this everybody knows this like but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01   they just whatever all funds seem to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04   really be able to provide it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   yeah now the other thing which again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   this is for my personality in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   is I I might over value wins that take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:18   something off my mental plate and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21   feeling like I never have to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   the battery of this phone is such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   outsized win in my mind it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   explain it's the same way like with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   know with the Apple watch it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   fact that I never have to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   this that sometimes I have I have worn a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   watch for two days in a row without even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   charging it it's like it's such a win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   that I don't have to think about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   love that and especially with battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   management I totally love it so on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:47   number of different travelling occasions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:51   all of which happened in very rapid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   succession after you saw me and Ireland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   with seven I was using the 7 I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   this battery case is amazing this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:01   is fantastic this is this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   great but here's the thing like I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:09   so hard I tried so hard to like the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:15   of the 7 with the battery case making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:19   a little bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:20   but I just couldn't I just couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:24   I find that sighs for me it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:28   physically wrong size it's uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   to use over a long period of time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:33   not small enough to use one-handed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36   too small to use two-handed it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   turn sideways so that I can use it two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:41   handed oh my god just slowly slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   drove me crazy he doing what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46   you're doing right now and I I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:50   let it go and so you don't you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:54   know what I'm doing but I'm using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   seven plus now yes because that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59   only place - gasps I know you get it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02   know you're happy about you Zack to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   this is I didn't expect it to go this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   way no one do you have one to talk to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:10   about it you know it's really funny Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11   I have used the seven plus in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:14   you and you've never noticed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:15   it's the correct natural human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   phone it's like I have I have hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:21   nothing from you I just there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22   couple of times when I was using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23   the seven in front of you and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   you just didn't pick up on it so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   I thought that was funny but but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   it's like I tried like I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:32   tried as hard as I tried to really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   the seven with the battery case like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   just I desperately wanted to really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   it but I just I just couldn't get over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41   the physical uncomfortableness of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   size for me and that but this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   like I feel like this is this this tale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   of woe right of like where am I going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:51   this product line they're their main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   product line it's like physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   uncomfortable for me like I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:57   they have two other sizes with both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   which I do like like I still really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   the small size right I still really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   the plus but but each of these have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   other disadvantages that their main line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   of phone doesn't have so which is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:12   just frustrating I feel like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13   have a really good home in this line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   because I'm using I'm using the seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:20   plus but that actually doesn't get very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23   much better battery life than the S II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   did like if you look on the battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   tests there are many times at the S II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   actually outperforms a seven plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30   because even though the battery is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31   bigger the screen is also way bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   right which drain out the battery it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:34   and it's like I'm back in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   position of when I'm traveling having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:40   do the mental management of battery on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   this phone and it's just frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   like I was on a trip recently and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   just aware like I was out I was taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   walk like in a city and I was having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   really nice time but I was also we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:52   like oh my phone is down at 5% on low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55   battery mode I've thrown it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   airplane mode and I need to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:59   that I have enough battery to get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00   back when I'm done with walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:03   right and it's like I hate that I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   having to pay attention to it I hate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   way that Apple does the low-power mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   where you have to manually turn it on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   if you miss it like you can burn through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:13   the last bit of your battery like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   I find it very very frustrating it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   like I wish I wish they would make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   battery case with a bigger phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   they don't and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   so that's that's why I mic I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   it's a big tale of woe is connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   everything in my life and that's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30   that's where we are but I know that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   least you're going to be happy that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   using the 7 plus there is a lesson to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:38   learned here gray what is that lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   like that when Mike was right he remains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:44   that way oh yeah yeah is that the lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   to be learned here yep I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   that's a lesson like I think it is hmm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:54   just you know I just like you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:58   sure the listeners can hear my voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3538">TS</a>]

00:58:59   like I'm I'm genuinely frustrated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   this is all the other like big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   this is connected to which I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   barely even want to mention but is these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   rumors that like the next the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:07   iPhone they're their flagship phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:11   going to be the same size as the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   7 and maybe there's another generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   of like 7s that symbolize like I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   just feel frustrated with maybe the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   that this is going to go like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:19   worried about what their next phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   going to be if it's the same size as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   7 so that's that's also why I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   I might even here just have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   stay of execution with the plus size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   phone I don't know I really I struggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:35   to understand why you find that 7 size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   so uncomfortable though like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:40   think it's it's it's not worth it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43   figure you may as well go to the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   right you know because I just think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:47   the most sense to go with the plus foam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   over the regular size one I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   that you get a lot everything that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   get you get more of the kind of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56   think that it makes to me just makes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   much more sense but like you seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   much more sense but like you seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   to have this like real anti like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   visceral anti reaction to the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:08   that phone in in a way that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   think I fully understand I mean one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:14   the places I feel at the most intensely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15   is with the keyboard like I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   just aware the keyboard when I'm typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:20   it's just a little too big to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   comfortably type with one hand right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   then when I bring my other hand over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27   it's now too small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28   well I mean you know the solace that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   may get from this new phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   apparently the screen will be a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33   size to the plus just in a smaller body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   so stuff like that it might not feel too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:38   bad you'll have more screen real estate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:39   to actually use both hands with I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:42   like I need to see a 7 plus overlaid on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:46   a 7 to understand the relative size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   these things because I'm like I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   reading all of the articles about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   what what the new size might be industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:53   like isn't it just a taller screen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   not actually a whole lot wider and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   well that's that's not that doesn't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58   anything you can actually get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   experience now you can go to a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   store and try the Galaxy S a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:05   dimensions hmm I might actually do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:08   just just to let my mind rest a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   bit about this like there's that the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   sizes they're both like smaller than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   iPhones but they have bigger screens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:17   both of them hmm I might literally do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:20   that this whole shoes whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:21   like galaxies um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   pop-up stores all around London they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   ever lettest yeah they're everyone they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   are everywhere to get you to go in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   try out the phone like you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   can't walk around without them I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   scared every time I leave the house now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   I'm gonna return home with one it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:40   real fear that I have whenever I go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43   central London I'm I do my very best to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   avoid the coffin warehouse I just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   go near it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   because I see it I get sucked in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:52   only time I went to look at one and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   held one was when they weren't for sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   but they had them in the stores and well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   I can't buy one right now so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   safe I love that design man yeah no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:05   looks good it looks good but like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   just I'm just concerned I'm concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:11   about where this is going in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   and edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   because I feel like I'm set I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14   sensitive to that size I'm like extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16   worried I'm extra worried that that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   just again like bought myself to stay of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:19   execution I hope you're happy now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3739">TS</a>]

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01:02:41   companies you'll be able to find exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:42   what you're looking for what if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   wondering what's next in your career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   DICE's career pathing tool will help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   learn about new roles based on your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:51   titles and skills they'll even show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   which skills you need to help you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   that next move also the dice careers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58   market value calculator allows you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   understand what your skills are worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:02   you can discover what your market value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   is based not only on your job title and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:07   location but also based on your specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   skill set don't just look for a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12   manage your technology career with dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3792">TS</a>]

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01:03:21   / cortex thank you so much to dice for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   supporting cortex and real afm so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:27   you've been on this like vision quest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29   device to device to device a trail of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32   sadness uh-huh there is like you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:35   were talking earlier about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   graveyard of ideas there must be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:41   graveyard of iPhones somewhere like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   what even happened to all these funds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   they like in in use in various ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:49   playing different sound effects remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   at your house or something like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   that's ridiculous Mike oh right yeah yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   yep who would have who would have use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   for three phones no nobody nobody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   have use for three phones now for on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   other hand the iPhone the iPhone 7 went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:05   on to someone who could use it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   is that is gone but no the SE the multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:16   phone lifestyle Bessie has ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:20   filling a very interesting role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:23   in my life now several shows ago people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:29   were asking why the hell don't you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   use two phones you idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:32   alright that's like if you have the if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   there's things you like about one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:35   don't like by the other like just used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37   to and my frustration is there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:41   software wise to use two phones if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:45   you're all in on the Apple ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47   health data is locked to a single phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:50   and Apple watches are locked to a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:54   phone so if you want to try to use two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   phones and you're also tracking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   health and use an Apple watch it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   a it's just a total non-starter because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   data and notifications are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05   seamlessly move back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:08   the two of them but I found an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:13   interesting an interesting sort of case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   that has worked out quite nicely because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:19   while I've been using the the plus and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22   do like a lot of the advantages of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   plus like the bigger screen is nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:25   particularly for reading ebooks like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   is nice to have that out and about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:31   the place I didn't like the Plus very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   much is in the house because if I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:36   phone in my pocket like it's still a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37   phone right whenever you sit down I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   always really aware of it physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   like in my pocket and if I would take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   out I would sort of lose it around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   house because I didn't remember where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:46   was putting it down and so I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:51   a day phone and a night phone but I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54   ended up with a house phone and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:57   outdoor phone because here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3957">TS</a>]

01:06:00   when I'm in the house the seven-plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:05   sits on a little charger and all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:08   notifications that I would get from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   seven-plus through my Apple watch all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   that stuff still works like all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   fussy way that I have set up the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   to notify me when I want with particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   like with a particular watch setup all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21   of that still works because the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   in the house on the Wi-Fi connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   the watch and then I can just use the SE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:28   as a little pocket phone right for in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31   the house and this this is fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:34   because now it doesn't take up a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35   bunch of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:36   I can still use it to control all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   lights in my house I can use it to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   back a quick text message to someone if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   I need to like all of all of the useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44   stuff that you would use a phone for in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:45   your house I can use little se for which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:48   I totally love a little se for it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   perfect for that so now now the routine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   is when I come home I simply just swap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:56   the phones the seven plus goes on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   charger and I take off the SE and the SE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   is the house phone and the seven plus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   the outdoor phone so I'm still using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   both of them and I still really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07   both of them each is adapted to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:08   perfect ecological niche now you gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   only two use cases there so I mean might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:15   be to dig into this a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   you said if I need to send back a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18   reply to a message I need to filter all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   my lights hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   you can do both of these extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   adequately with your watch you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27   the home app or the home complication to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29   control the lights or you can ask Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   and you can also send canned responses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35   speak into the watch or draw on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   watch to say yeah you can send canned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   responses but there's tons of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   have OmniFocus to set up on the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:42   phone like I have I have a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   of the normal stuff that I would use now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   it works on the watch but not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:47   entering have you ever tried to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49   enter something complicated on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:50   with OmniFocus like good luck with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:51   all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:52   also the Notes app which I use all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   time to just capture some thoughts like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   there's a tons of stuff that the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:57   does yeah but like that's useful with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   little keyboard like the watch is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:00   replacing that from what you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   mentioned me and then the show in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   past you don't like live in a manor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:07   house no we have three rooms with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:10   amount of iPads that I know that you own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   surely there is never a device out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   reach there are times when there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   device out of reach like if I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   kitchen is particularly the case where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   like there's not an iPad Within Reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   in the kitchen right that is by far and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   away the time that is most useful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:27   have the phone there in a kitchen iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   no no we don't need a kitchen knife at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:30   that's crazy talk like oh right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   sorry that's crazy talk I've pushed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:35   too far yeah you have pushed it too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   I find it is just more convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   sometimes to have a device in the pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   to respond to certain kinds of things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   to make notes of certain kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   so I find it really useful I like it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:49   that there's also a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   which that little phone I have just set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:54   up to be default connected to some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   the speakers in our house then also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:59   uses like a little podcast machine for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:00   when I'm playing podcasts around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   house I really like it as this as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:05   smaller device to just have with me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:08   do a few minor things and then I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:11   have to have the big bulky seven plus in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:14   my pocket when I'm walking around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:15   house all the time I'm telling you Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18   you're thinking I'm ridiculous now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   I'm just gonna wait just gonna wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   until you have a house Knoll outdoor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   phone I followed you down the multipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:28   lifestyle yeah you thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   crazy look who's laughing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   no there is no realm in wit now I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:35   don't think this is gonna happen either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36   I just love it if it did I I like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   don't like any iPhone sighs other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:42   the plus ya and the so then I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   to that doesn't make I mean I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:45   have to put that there's no point right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:48   right yeah uh this this one this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:51   bridge too far for me this one I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53   afraid this is a bridge too far for just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   about anyone I think it should be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:56   well yeah that this is basically me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4196">TS</a>]

01:10:00   solving the problem of I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02   having the big phone in my pocket but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   also still want a phone in my pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:05   when I'm in the house I don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   this one gray I'm not sold on this okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:12   I am I am genuinely not trying to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   you on this I know you know I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:15   not trying to sell anyone on this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:18   to be clear I can really see why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:21   didn't want to talk about all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:22   now cuz you've had to let me win again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:25   with with the superior phone sighs I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:29   actually totally fine having you having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:32   you win on this one with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   big bust size it's it's just like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:37   like this is connected to everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:38   my like there's so much we haven't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   discussed here that I felt like mentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   exhausted discussing this at all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   like so many so many rabbit holes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   could go down to great we can come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   to this another time then no no we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   need to go down this again okay that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:56   mean maybe we will when the next fella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   comes out no I'm sure they'll be a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:01   there'll be a lot of that come September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:02   will there be anything to discuss with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   Anne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:05   found surely not there enough surely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   neveress let's end our productivity show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:10   talking a little bit about America truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   simulator again ooh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   everyone's favorite segment struck time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:17   the point of all work is to drive a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19   pretend truck ultimate so it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21   that at the end of the show we get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:22   right like that's that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   listen to the show Stephen wrote in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   let me know I didn't know this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   apparently there is beta support for VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:31   and American Truck Simulator did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   know about this oh yeah of course I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   about that I didn't know about this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:36   has been around for a while and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   pretty buggy but it does work mm-hmm now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   that is a it's just an increasingly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:44   intriguing aspect of this game to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:49   completely immersed in it you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:51   it feels like it's just an added level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53   yeah look I don't know when I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:57   how but at some point in some way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4317">TS</a>]

01:12:01   gonna be driving an imaginary truck in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   VR like this like this is coming this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:06   in my future I sent this to you today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   saw this on the verge this this gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:11   PC called the Corsair one which is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:15   intriguing to me I didn't get a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18   to look at this super properly I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   guessing that it's essentially a Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22   PC that's set up to be like a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   console is that what it is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:26   exactly what it is so it is small and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   has everything and you buy all in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   package so again I apologize to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:35   PC gamers in the audience because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37   cannot imagine how hard they're rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40   their eyes to the idea that this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   PC that intrigues us like the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   is created to being not that right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:48   that it is made to be like a games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   console but this is finally like the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:54   that makes I think the most sense for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:57   if I was going to go down this route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   like it is a PC that is designed in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:04   to be put on a desk mmm like it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:08   I think a little bit taller but similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   ish dimensions to the Mac Pro woohoo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:13   I'm very intrigued by this because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   as I said like one of the things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   really didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:18   was to have a big box for this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:22   this is not going to be the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:23   powerful PC I get that but like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:26   that this looks to me like it a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   bit of reading about it it looks to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   like the best middle ground for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:34   this stuff yeah I haven't had a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:37   to look at super fully I'm just glancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:39   at the at the website now and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:41   through some of this stuff I can say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   have not been more tempted by any PC in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:46   the last 15 years than this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:49   Yeah right like this this looks like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:52   well well hello Corsair one yeah cuz it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:56   looks the styling is not too much it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:59   looks like a games console in styling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   mmm but just the idea that it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:05   we've both done this right like we mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07   you have spent quite a bit of time just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   like looking at what is available in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:12   PC gaming market yeah and my biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   problem is I just don't know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:18   looking for building a PC there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:21   there's no way to cut it like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   a bigger deal than buying a Mac my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:26   buying a Mac is like guess what you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:28   got a couple options and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30   just to get because like I remember when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   I used to build PCs and buy pcs it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:36   like you need to know a bunch of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   and this feels like exactly what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:42   looking for us like look I just you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:43   make it for me put it in a cylinder I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45   want to think about this thing as little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:47   as possible alright like what what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49   want to do is be able to turn this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   and boot into steam as fast as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:55   yep that's that is my goal here and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:58   don't want to have to have an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:01   room in my house set up with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   whole other set up like this just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:06   looks really really tempting and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:10   can run VR it's like well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:13   TRUCKING VR with Corsair one could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:18   possibility and I saw that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:21   making double trailers you excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:24   this like you can have two trailers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   attached to a truck I love that I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:28   that you're following the trucking news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   Mike III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:32   pay more attention to the trucking news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:33   than I do play it I'm just I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:36   following the SDS software Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   account I think because they tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   about you and I thought that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   funny yeah so idea they tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:45   something about like I got my pizza or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   whatever when I was playing the key yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   I think I think you'd retweeted or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   something and I'm sorry I was like all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:52   like these these people that's cool what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:55   I really want them to do though is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   make an actual multiplayer experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:01   there are mods mmm like it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:05   there's like this server or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07   that you can use it that there look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   there are mods for multiplayer games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:12   the reason this interests me is that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:15   null on Twitter sent us a tweet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:19   intrigues me greatly about the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:22   me and you driving down the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:25   together as a claw text episode like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27   talking over CB radio I feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:31   is Hugh just trying to get into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:32   office in a different way Mike right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   this that's what this feels the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   multiplayer is not local it's online no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39   it I know it's not local but something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41   about this feels like the thin end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43   the wedge right that that's what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:46   we need to land pile in this thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:49   have great internet yeah see that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:50   exactly it right you know yeah well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:53   will start remotely like Oh it'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:54   LAN party and then it'll be like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56   where are you during the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:57   oh that's that's that's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:59   here I I think that you are taking my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:03   innocent very innocent idea just wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:06   to play a video game you know and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   turning it into this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:09   she's unfair I don't think it is unfair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:13   I think I know how your Mike mind works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:14   all I want to do is just is just drive a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:17   truck with you I don't think that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:18   too much to ask I like driving my truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:20   alone right that's that's what I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22   it's not going to be in the same truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:26   so it's a solitary experience Mike and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:29   driving a truck across solitary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:30   experience that you shared with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   thousands on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:33   yeah but it's different they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:34   driving trucks I mean someone could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:37   right that's actually not true some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39   them are but you know it's look I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   I'm trying to just say it's it's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:42   experience it's a solitary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:45   desert experience that sometimes shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:48   with a couple thousand passengers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:50   mostly solitary experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   let's truck driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+EtBn7jXd4/4672">TS</a>]