00:00:00 ◼ ► out of curiosity he can choose my dances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► headgear for the live show did we ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► reach a conclusion you have to wear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► wearing headphones I don't care how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/10">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► nerdy I look you guys are welcome to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► make that choice for yourselves should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/13">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► available for us put them on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► in front of us we can choose to put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► on or not it really for me it depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/20">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► whether it's weird for me enough to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/21">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► able to hear myself or whether just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/24">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► the in room speakers will be enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/25">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► hearing the audience and so I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/27">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► I'm going to make up the call at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► moment to see what it's like and try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/30">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► without first and if it's weird up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/32">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► month okay so what I'm hearing is I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► bring a pair of scissors and hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/36">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► headphone the headphones that I break if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► John tries to put them on no I myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/43">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► not gonna put them on you I know but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/45">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► but if you put them on and Marko has him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/48">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► on what am I gonna be the lone cool kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► nah you can totally you're your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/51">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► person you I'm not the boss of you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/52">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► do what you want with your own head Ian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► McDowell writes in this is he he is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► an apple genius but apparently heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► from an apple genius if I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► this correctly that the key caps on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► removable dirt commonly gets under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► keys and they now have special tools in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► the stores to help fix them I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► to know what the special tools are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► like tiny nano machines they send in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► through those little cracks in the keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/82">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► and there they grab little pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► dirt and come out like actually it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► it's a it's a magical School Bus that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► they drive ruined used to clean things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/89">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► cleaning it there is actually and uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► what did it did Steve Hackett send this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/96">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► to us somebody sent this to us there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► actually a knowledgebase article so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► entitled to clean the keyboard of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► MacBook Retina 12-inch 2015 and later uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► and it describes holding your MacBook at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► exactly 75 degree angle things that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► very important you hold the day this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/114">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► forget ninety forget it what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► even doing 75 obviously I'm joking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► it really does show a 75 degree angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► and with a little diagram of what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► looks like I mean it's kind of I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► know if that's really 75 someone get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/128">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► your protractor but but anyway they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► yeah and so then you use compressed air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► effective keys in a left-to-right motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► very important then rotate your MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► to its right side and spray the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► again from left to right and they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► little diagram you rotate it to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► left side this will not work point what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► warranty voided right exactly so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► so yeah they have this whole process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► that apparently amounts to blow crap out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► from under the key caps and that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► actual knowledgebase article so in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/157">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► the time since our last show uh I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► my whole rant about the heat and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► keys right well that was less yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/166">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► expanding like when it gets warmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► weather you thought maybe the keys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/169">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► expanding and filling the openings more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► and getting stuck so I've actually so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► I went on a little Twitter rant about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► this almost a week ago and I heard from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► a lot of people up who have who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/179">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► computers with the new keyboards and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► actually seems like this might not be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► much of an issue on the MacBook ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► keyboard the the first generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► this on the 12 inch but it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► this is a major issue for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► people and you know and when I say a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► of people I'm saying like I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/198">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► from a lot of people on Twitter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/199">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► problem only Apple knows that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/204">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► noteworthy problem that Keys get stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► or feel different or get stuck down or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► repeat or or somehow don't work properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► on a pretty regular basis with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► largest keyboards a lot of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/221">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► to get them replaced and also it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► to be related to heat that when they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/225">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► computer is working really hard so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► getting warm or if you're in a hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► environment like I was when I was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► this problem I was I was outside on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/236">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► hot day and the keys tend to stick a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► more than and so I don't know enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► about the way these are built to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/243">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► why that is you know some of the Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► people were speculating that maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► the tolerances are so tight that maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► little bit of thermal expansion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► enough to make it not work properly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► don't know but it does seem like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► that's you like a big problem so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► really know what the answer here is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/261">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► doing so many replacements of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► motivates them to change things if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► can the only question is can they or are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► they going to have to wait until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/275">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► next major revision of the keyboard in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► new in new laptops entirely and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► who owns this generation might just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/282">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► out of luck and just might have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► frequent keyboard replacements and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► hope that's not the answer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► that's not a good answer and as an owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► of one of these I'm really not happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/291">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► the idea that I'm going to have to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► it to Apple at least once and go without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► it for like a week at least once to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► this keyboard fixed I want to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► reliably that is not very appealing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► me because I buy a laptop because I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/307">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► a laptop and going without it for a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► is usually not very convenient not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► mention having to get an appointment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► with Apple or call them wait on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► phone and do mail order or whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► like none of these are good options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► none of these are great solutions to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► what should be a pretty basic thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► which as I expect the keyboard of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► laptops to work reliably and this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► like feeling aside like we've talked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► length about how much we like or dislike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► shallow keyboards and I've heard from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► people who defend them who like the feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/342">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► personal preference the feel of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► keyboard doesn't bother me as much as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► used to and now they've used it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/348">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► reliability being verb being bad and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► think regardless of what you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► the feel of the keyboard I think we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► probably all agree that in that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/359">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► especially such a young laptop is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► worrying if it was just me then that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► fine and you can you can disregard it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► would disregard it as well I got a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► keyboard and you know just get it fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► but from what I keep hearing from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► over and over and over again when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► bring this up a lot of people have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► to get multiple replacements and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► replacements have the same problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► so it just seems like it's a design flaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► and that's a pretty big design flaw I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► hope that this is smaller than it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/391">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► I hope that I can just get it replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/395">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► have a reliable laptop keyboard for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► next you know one to four years that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► use this laptop whatever it ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► being I hope that's it but so far what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► have heard is discouraging in that area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► it sound that this might just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/411">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► problem with this entire generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► keyboards in the 2016 MacBook Pro this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/414">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► is solvable if they you know if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► figures out what the problem is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/421">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► they you know they diagnose this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► they figure it out and say aha if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► change design in this way change a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► different material make little bits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► the key differently shaped or larger or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► smaller or whatever it takes make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► key caps themselves slightly smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/435">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► this all seems like something that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► be solved by it kind of like they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► with the screen image retention where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► it's like oh we sold you a bunch of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► know retina MacBook Pros and if you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► the lg screen or the Samsung screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► can't remember which one was the bad one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► you might have energy tension problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► they don't fix it by giving you another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/451">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► different better screen that still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► fulfills the same purpose has the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► resolution in the same characteristics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/460">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► but doesn't have burnin but it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► different part either a new part from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► the same maker or apart from a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► manufacturer so if they figure this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/466">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► with a keyboard it will make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► keyboard that fits these things and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► you come in for a repair they'll replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► it with the new version it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/474">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► question of how long it takes them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► figure out what the heck the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/477">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► assuming it even is a problem according [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► to their numbers well first first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► to save you a bunch of email image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► retention 15-inch 2012 retina MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► Pro screens they didn't guarantee that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► you got a better one like the LG was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► problem the Samsung was the good one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/491">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► when you got it replaced you could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► either one it was just kind of dumb luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/494">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► which one you got and you just hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► got the Samsung panel well I but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► could they could do that like nothing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► they no one's good in one's bad assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► well that's even true like that's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/502">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► that's our conventional wisdom of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► oh if you got this one you're okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/505">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► if you got this one you're not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► assuming they know one is better they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► have the option what I'm saying is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/510">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► have the option of gaming they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/511">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► have to redesign the thing you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/512">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► have to wait for the next model if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► knows replace this part with this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► part that is different and it will fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/517">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► the problem they have the ability to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/520">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► that with you're not you're not out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► luck that's what I'm saying with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► thing you don't have to wait until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► buy the Mexican periodic returns one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► get a different one you just need Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► actually give it to you in their place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► when it comes to you know moving along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► with Apple moving along with the newest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► technologies and and getting the newest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► stuff and keeping up with Apple you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► to swallow some things you have to okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/543">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► headphone jack you know I guess I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► get rid of all my ports and my SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► reader and everything else and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► these things are easier or harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/552">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► reliable is a massive problem like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/558">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► keyboard having it not be reliable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► almost everyone who buys one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► unacceptable that is not a trade-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► that is not moving towards the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► that is not like there's no excuse for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► that that is a design flaw and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► needs to be fixed yeah I I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► to tell you that you are especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► early on there being a big baby about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► the keyboard and how you didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► blah blah blah but you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/587">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► allowed your opinion that's fine however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► I could not agree with you more that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► V if these reliability problems are as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► widespread as they anecdotally seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/594">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► backwards and needs to be addressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► alright moving on if you do have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► problem with your keycaps there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► people that apparently do remove them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► without breaking them according to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► somewhat shady uh YouTube master risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► asterisk at the edge without breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► the biggest well will continue to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/618">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► next volume but this is a video of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/619">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► someone showing you how he can price he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► cap off with a guitar pick and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► how they work under the cover so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► kind of visualize what it is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► doing when you pry this thing up so some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► people are doing it yeah it's a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► but I would certainly wouldn't recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/634">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► regarding the fragility fragility of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► new keyboard types and how they differ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► from the days of rolled here are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► photos of the damage key caps so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► that I've replaced and we'll put a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► pictures here of what appears to be four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► different or three different key caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► and a scissor switch that have been an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► issue note the clips at the top each top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► corner should have two fingers to clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► around a pin on the butterfly and hooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/663">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► keys must be pried up at the top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► then removed by moving the capped or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/668">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► anything else break the fragile clips as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► well anything as well any misalignment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► and reassembly I only broke the pins off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► two butterflies why damage to at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► 70 caps I first generation MacBook Wan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► I've had it since shortly after release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► my F and key worked properly but didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► return to its full height correctly from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/684">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► new I ignored the issue turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► key cap had been broken for years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/687">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► bigger and more concerning issue which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► is why I've not yet made a second or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► third round of key cap and butterfly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/693">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► replacement part purchases is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/694">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► couple of keys I'm having difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► with do not have any apparent physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/697">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► damage to the key cap or the butterfly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► and they do not have any bit stuck under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► them that that can be seen upon very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► close inspection so I still dearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► regret taking these key caps off this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► isn't a keyboard to be worked on by an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► expert its keyboard to be worked on by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► trained expert with this with a spare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► parts stash that's the lesson of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► portable devices like everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► you know Apple increasingly the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► that are assembled with glue or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► one-way assembly where it goes together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► but it does not come apart and go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► together the same way it was maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► can take it apart and maybe you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/732">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► it back together but it will never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► the same and so the idea of like oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► a do-it-yourselfer I can pry these he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► caps off I can see how they work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► look at these pictures and look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/741">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► size the sort of the feature size in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► and you know silicon chip parlons how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► small the little Clippy things are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► the bottom of this and the tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► pins on the on the butterfly switch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► they grip very very small very delicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► right and so if you are thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► prying these things off the possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► that you're going to break off or bend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► or otherwise screw up one of those clips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► or one of those pins seems very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► which is probably why Apple doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► repair these keyboards they give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/770">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► they're going to fix one key view they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/774">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► inter placed all keyboard as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/775">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► that's true yeah it this doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► like a repairable thing now an apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► you know knowledgebase article they tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► you how to blow compressed air on it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► maybe get the grit out you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/787">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► it's not going to shake out on its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► because all the gaps are so small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/790">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► that might solve your little grit type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► problem but the other interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► about Michael story here is that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► a key that had one of the little Clippy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► broken you know from the I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► how he knowses because maybe he broke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/803">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► him when he took it off or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/804">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► that it hadn't been working and and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► had just been ignoring it and it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/809">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► been broken for a really long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► if these little Clippy things are broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► under one of your key gaps you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/815">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► know that it's like if x-ray vision like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► maybe that could explain why it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/818">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► working because the little Clippy things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► help the key rise and fall and sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► with the butterfly switch and stay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► know stable and everything and if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► not connected to one of the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/826">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► cookie things it's kind of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► it independent suspension when you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► are you know really a live real acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► rear-axle and strong anti-roll bars the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► core analogy okay work I think this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► actually works but it only works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/840">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► people to know what those things are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► I can imagine if you have a bad clip and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► one corner of your key is not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► pushed upwards and pulled downward with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► the whole rest of your key no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► where you hit it because it is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/852">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► like you know an anti-roll bar under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► cover even when when one corner of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► key goes up or down you want the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/857">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► rest of the key to go with it that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► make the key tilt in a way that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/860">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► doesn't expect think it's stuck and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► also saw the things and got you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► looking at pictures of these keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/866">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► make me start freaking out a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/867">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► about how how delicate these little bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/868">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► are and how easy it is for something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► go wrong now if you open up a scissor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► key keyboard like the one I use every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► day it's also extremely delicate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► tiny inside there I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► features of the key caps and mechanisms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► are actually all that different could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/885">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► just be a matter of you know butterfly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► versus scissor and and travel distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► underneath it but I do not do not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/891">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► keyboards I don't like thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► these keyboards it almost makes me long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/897">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► iPhone 7 home button style key barbar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► nothing actually no don't say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► they'll do it no like I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► thinking about keyboards either that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► why this ought this annoys me so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/910">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► because I've had every other laptop I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► ever had from Apple I have never had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► think about the keyboard it just worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► and it was fine that's why this bothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► me so much like this I feel like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► moving backwards in technology if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/922">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► Hector Ramos wrote in to tell us that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► conference at the McKenry Convention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► on switch I don't even know but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► assuming that's the one that we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► to be in for WotC having been to WB DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► says Hector I think it's fair to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► that the box lunches in the San Jose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► McHenry were worse sad trombone so don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/944">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► get your hopes up the box lunches were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/948">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► all cold sandwiches with either soggy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► bread or hard and impossible to eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► bread along with mystery dessert they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► also had salad only options that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► passable however the real news here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► which is terrible there was no Odwalla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/960">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► sorry Casey I'm so sorry man are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► gonna be okay well I'm hopeful that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► just that this particular event may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/971">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► have sprung for the Odwalla option but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/974">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► follow-up from friend of the show Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► not machemer II so that's MCE and ery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/983">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► before i get all the san jose residents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► writing me who i'm hector he wrote it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► with Em's yep so any in any case yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► no Odwalla for this particular tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► conference and reading between the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► it was not the sort of tech conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► where they needed to worry about money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► this was a spared no expense kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► experience so I'm nervous but hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► hopefully Apple will will spring for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► Odwalla just for me there I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► there's discussion somewhere in in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► Cupertino you know Casey made it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► year he won the lottery this year and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► don't want to hear him whining and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► moaning for a year if there's no odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► Wallace we might as well just pony it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► my favorite thing about this is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► have become the podcast of conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► box lunches so true so anyway so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► see what happens but that is a that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1034">TS</a>]
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00:19:11 ◼ ► worldwide HR has now been named the vice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► president of inclusion and diversity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► which is cool I think that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► awesome we don't really know much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► it yet so you know obviously we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► want to celebrate it too much quite yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► but this is absolutely a step in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► right direction and she's not a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► dude because that seems to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► classical thing to do which is to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► white dude in charge of diversity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► inclusion and so at least Apple wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► so tone deaf that that made that faux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► pas so this in theory seems like a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► thing this is a newly created position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► like this position didn't exist as a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► vice president level position that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► they've created in I don't know how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► is going to work out because so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► corporate stuff is is opaque like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► always when I see stuff like this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► is I think apples and exception in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► many ways but in when a big company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► vice-president or someone who's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► address some problem they think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► have I always fear that that person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► being set up for failure because how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► it that they're going to pursue their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► agenda in a company that didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► have this position previously and and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► pursue the agenda requires you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► massive company shifting policy changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► so that's that's my usual fear with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► these type of things that you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► can they even do is it just symbolic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► will the rest of the company listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► them and you know this will they be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► empowered to make change the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► encourages me about this for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► specifically is that it seems like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► has done this to pretty good effect in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► the past one example is that was at Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► Jackson who was on the talk show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► does like environment or whatever I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► assuming that great position was newly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► created at some point in the past to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► like you know Apple Apple 20 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► environment bizarre or whatever her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► title is and she's got results like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► does things that change the way Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► makes its products right and so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► wasn't just putting this ability to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► oh ya know we have someone worrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► vice-president role and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► continue to do what they did and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► know put out press releases or like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► know it becomes like a PR type position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► from the interview you should definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► listen to like Apple is changing what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► does across its entire business because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► of initiatives spearheaded by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► person and what an any other company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► would be like a symbolic position so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► let's hope that this newly created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► position is you know just successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► that's a good sign and you know apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► been reasonably good about publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► sharing their diversity report I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► at the end of the year I forget exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► what it is but at some point during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► year they share it and so in theory we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► can judge them on you know what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► results are after this move over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► coming years obviously they massaged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► that report to be as complimentary as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► they possibly can while still being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► truthful hopefully anyway but certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► this is a good sign and I'm hopeful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► and I think we should celebrate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► alright John tell us about thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► three and what's going on with Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► every time we talk about Apple not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► someone will brightest many someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► rise and say oh but that's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► happen because if you don't use in El [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► jefe's you can't have thunderbolt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► Apple needs to have Thunderbolt because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► reasons therefore don't worry about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► and I think the last time we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► this what I tried to emphasize was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► think when we talk about like risin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► reasonably competitive chips in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► market segments again and they're sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► of they're their comeback bid that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► Apple decided to go to AMD for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► AMD Apple Intel are all companies things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► can be worked out money can change hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► deals can be made I feel like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► type of type of thing that all three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► parties would be able to work out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► none of them would be so adamant that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► would say there is literally no amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► of money that you can give us Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► would allow that would let us you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► they would make us license Thunderbolt 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► to AMD like there's no kind of grudge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► like that going on there so I'm like set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► that aside yes it's an issue it have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► be worked up by the people involved but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► advantage to start going to AMD for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► certain chips or certain things like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► has the advantage that it wouldn't be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► architectural change and having two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► vendors is the thing that Apple loves to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► do for every part in all of its things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► and at a certain point it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► against apples instincts and general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► policy to have a single vendor for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► an extremely important component you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► know a single non apple vendor I suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► like they always want to have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► people multiple people fabbing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► multiple vendors if they can help it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► ping them against each other like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► know just typical business so today's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► announcement from I think it's today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► from Intel adds an interesting twist to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► this first is that Intel is adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► Thunderbolt to their CPUs so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► have to buy a separate chipset which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► apparently has been a barrier to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► know PC manufacturers you know aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► willing to spend the money to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► license or buy the you know Alpine Ridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► or whatever the latest chipset is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► Thunderbolt support like that will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► take the CPUs they have support for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► pci-express like on the chips I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► care about thunderbolt I'll buy another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► chip it's it's it's pointless right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► now they're putting it on the CPUs with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► so many other things and that will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► it cheaper for people to use and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► basically can't not get it if you buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► part that has it built-in I mean maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► they'll still sell parts that don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► a built-in and I assume Lee's better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► packaging probably also better for power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► and it's a move that will make Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► computers better because Apple likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► put Thunderbolt 3 on you know it's high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► in computers and if Apple can get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► built into the CPU they love it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► they'd love to make everything small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► lower power and if it's cheaper on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► of that all the better right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► second part of this story is Intel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► going to license Thunderbolt 3 for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► to anybody who wants it then that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► would a club obviously include AMD so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► that barrier to Apple using AMD CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► assuming it ever was a barrier because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► I'm not entirely convinced that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► so wedded to Thunderbolt 3 that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► building a Mac without it because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► do that barrier is gone Thunderbolt 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► and from Intel's perspective it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► like they're doing this to let Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► take AMD CPUs they're doing this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► they want thunderbolt to spread more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► widely and a barrier to adoption as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► got to buy this extra chipset for own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► and you can only get it from us and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► can't make your own thing so it went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► like no no we want to see Thunderbolt 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► everywhere it's really important for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► to the standard to spread guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► it's free for everybody and it's cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► when you buy until CPUs and I'm hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► that all the other manufacturers of pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► and parts and so on and so forth will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► I'm hoping the reason they were staying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1558">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► away from Thunderbolt was that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► too expensive I'm assuming Intel and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► know Intel an apple or you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► people who created this standard have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► still had the most influence of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► maybe people were staying away because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► they feel like it's not like an industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► standard it's more like an Intel or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► until Apple standard but either way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► happy to see moves that bull that have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► chance of keeping Thunderbolt from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► firewires fate firewire just never got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► the wide adoption that that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► have helped it to stick around longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► and be a viable technology only used by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► other things that USB meanwhile went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► literally everywhere so this seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► yet more of the USB if ocation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► thunderbolt you know they already stole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► their connector and and their port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► confusing the world with the port that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► is 17 different things at one but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► think that's really cool tech wise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► now it's free for everybody so go forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► and thunderbolt do you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► thunderbolt has already been fire wired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► because i see a lot of the same signs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► it like you know thunderbolt and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► know the earlier versions of it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► had had a more severe problem of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► where it just very few peripherals were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► ever really made for Thunderbolt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► what was made for Thunderbolt was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► much more expensive than the USB 2 or 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► version of the same thing and for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► like hard drive enclosures or SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► enclosures like there's almost no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► for anybody to do a thunderbolt when USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► unless you have really really high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► parts and you need maximum bandwidth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► you don't care about the price for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► people one of those things is not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► so like I don't think Thunderbolt really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► has taken off very far I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► Thunderbolt is exactly where firewire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► was both 400 and 800 of like it is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► this you know standard in quotes but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► practice it is only used by some Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► stuff and some high-end like peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► and storage enclosures but almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► everything that most people use uses USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► 2 or 3 well Apple did a really smart or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► Apple Intel did a really smart thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► here because when they when they change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► the connector because you're right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► there are many people who don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► thinner bolt they just need USB it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► same little hole in the side of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► Thunderbolt gets confined to be oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► just this weird thing that Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► like Intel may not be happy that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► maybe Intel wants it to be used more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► broadly for whatever strategic reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► but it's not like Apple has to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► anything about its strategy as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► thinner ball continues to be made or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► like like basically the little plugs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► the side of you already have a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► where you can get don't some it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► the low end like MacBook not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 3 port but instead just has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► our thing am I wrong about that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► correct the 12-inch MacBook does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► have you it does not have Thunderbolt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► only has USB three over that port but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► it's the same old little connector and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1738">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► similarly the Thunderbolt ports can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► run USB off of them the main the paint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► the main place sadly the main place or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► maybe not sadly depends on how you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 3 Bank brings to Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► products is they can put a small set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► very very small uniform ports on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► side of their portable computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► people can connect stuff to them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► give them all the other ports all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► other things you can imagine all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► different breakout boxes that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► magic of Thunderbolt right do you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► sunder bowl 3 for that or whatever and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► guess I suppose you know high end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► monitor support depending on how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► want to implement that what they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► do with like multiple DisplayPort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► Thunderbolt and external GPUs and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► the other fancy stuff you can get but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► you don't take advantage of that fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► stuff it still just looks like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► plugging the little USB type-c connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► into the side of your computer if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► take advantage of it you buy the fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► Apple computer and the same little port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► you can plug in all that other stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► also you can plug in these other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► to get these cool breakout boxes I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► Apple would be perfectly fine with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► they're not faced with the firewire like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1798">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► situation where that is that all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► peripherals you bought are useless as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► long as Thunderbolt continues to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► ongoing concern in some fashion Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► can continue to ship all that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► peripherals all of its Mac stuff all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► its dongles and adapters with that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► little hole on them so I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► better off but the reason I brought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► fire or exactly the reasons you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► that it seems like Thunderbolt is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► confined because USB 3 is so fast and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► good and so cheap and so ubiquitous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► in some respects the other angle on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► USB type-c is kind of I'm gonna say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► the same as firewire but I get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► bit of the width of that firewire on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► in the general reluctance of the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► the industry to follow Apple along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► this even like Microsoft not putting USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► C on all this new surface stuff and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► making excuses about like well when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► think the world is ready for USB C we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► change it but in the meantime you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► get a dongle to let you connect USB C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► stuff which is a pretty pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► snark there like it seems to me if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► when I look around I see laptops the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► only ones I ever see with USB see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► it's our Apple 1 so maybe they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► ahead of everyone else and people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► convert over but that stupid USB type a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► connector may be very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► dislodge and it could be that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► firewire the only hardware you ever see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► with these weird USB these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► probably cell phones because size is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► going to make those people turnover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► mini USB sucks and then max but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► other portable you know PC or tablet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► surface thing or whatever love just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► bunch of USB type a connectors on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► side of it I don't know I'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► one thing I like now that I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► USBC ecosystem with my new laptop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► I've been looking at USB see peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► and looking for adapters and dongles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► various like peripherals that use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► there are not many like I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► with the 12-inch MacBook being now 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► years old I figured you know there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► there's probably got to be tons of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► now and there are a small number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► things that can plug into that port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► natively but it seems like almost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► them are like cheap crap from no-name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► brands on Amazon for 40 bucks that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► all unreliable and badly built and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► the probably uses the same chipset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► inside and and and it's it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► it's a very still a very immature market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► and I hope that I hope it matures soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► now that all the MacBook Pros use only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► these ports that should be enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► motivation for peripheral makers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► we'll see it's it's not where I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► it would be by now yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► what the resistance is here SBC Kazan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► it's not it's just us beasts though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► mean there it's a different spec and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► there the cables are different and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► connectors are more expensive than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► used to be but it seems like I I fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► eventually to USBC because it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► not a fire or a situation in it oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► so much more expensive and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► put these way more expensive chips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► the things and the chips have to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► both ends and you know our Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► with the weird chips and the wires for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► the high-speed connection and all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► of stuff like that like that's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► just a different physical connector for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► USB plus a different you know chipset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► and USB 3 I think is rolling out pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► well 3.1 maybe I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► with the hold of this people chatter I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► saying the windows there are windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► lots to have USB see of course there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► been a lot of tops to have everything on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► it it's just that I don't I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► the it's it's not like remember in USB 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► one point one did not last long in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► face of USB - USB - just rolled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► across the whole industry and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► you would have USB 2 port everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► except for like a keyboard and mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► which would be one point one for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► but us PC has not rolled out like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► well for a long time like almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► PC you would buy would have like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► blue ports and then six blackboard yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► but the point is it had the blue ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► like it had like you know keep the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► ones around the same reason they kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► like parallel port and the ps2 port rank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► is there if their PC makers I'll always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► do that but you have the new ones USB to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► buy a PC without USB to anywhere on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► and the USB to age was unheard of but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► like I said Microsoft with these very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► expensive high-end fancy Surface tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► laptop convertible whatever thingies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► seems proudly to be shipping them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► without any USB C ports and defending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► their decision by saying oh you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► an adapter it's USB through front one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► it's totally the same thing we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► don't like that connector which is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► you know um having now had my first well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► what I consider to be my first USB C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► device which is the switch yes I have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► Apple TV and yes that's us PC but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► the idea of a theoretical future where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► have a a MacBook that has been updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► theoretical future I have a MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► that's been updated that is powered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► USB see I have a switch that is bent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► that is powered by us PC the thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► a phone being powered by USB see for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► convenience alone sounds pretty awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► doesn't now I don't really love the USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► connector as much as I like lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► connector no small part because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► Lightning connector smaller and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► lightning cables strewn throughout my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► entire life but having one port that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► connector that can really be all things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► to all people is pretty neat and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► sound appealing so as much as I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► connector because I think it it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► really good in especially in ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► the dock connector wasn't I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► a USB see future might be pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► hell it would make the phone's get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► - right that's that's a way in as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► that means more battery exactly I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► know well we'll see but uh I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► certainly does sound appealing in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► sense idea I'm a little bit envious of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► the Android folks with their USBC lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2143">TS</a>]
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00:35:57 ◼ ► and delivery people who do only that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► that's mail route even the big companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► are bowing out of the email protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► business because it's hard work Postini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► McAfee MX logic Google even came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► said they want you to use a gateway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► service like mail routes so they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► have to filter all your Google Apps mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► so who can you trust to do the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► properly and stick around that is mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► entirely on email security since 1997 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► was in middle school mail route protects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► your email and hardware against spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► viruses and other threats and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► deliver your mail even when your mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► server can't and there's no hardware or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► software for you to install buy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► manage because it's all an online hosted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► service if you own your own domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► that's all you need you point your MX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► records at them and you tell them where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► to deliver your clean filtered mail the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► interface is incredibly easy to navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► it's loaded with admin tools including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► even a full api all designed to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► your life better as an email admin or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► no spam no virus is a no bounced mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► whether you're a small home business or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► a huge ISP mail route handles customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► of all sizes and provides the same level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► of outstanding tech support to everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► they protect your email from spam and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► viruses and they guarantee mail access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► during outages and that's all they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► they focus entirely on that and they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► it better and they've been doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► longer than everyone else so stop spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2237">TS</a>]
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00:37:37 ◼ ► once again mail route net slash a TP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► thank you very much two mail routes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► all right so Apple has maybe started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► working on and presumably started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► working on a series thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► screen and obviously this is all rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► there's been a lot of rumors that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► might happen in a couple of weeks at WDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► there's TechCrunch article get ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► a new iPad and a mysterious series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► speaker at WWDC uh as we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► numerous times I currently anyway don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► really care about ladies in a tube so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► Marco or John you want to kind of take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► this one over I mean our timing on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► is terrible because this is an old story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► and there's no rumors about it now well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► no just because it's rumored to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► announced in two weeks so it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► probably not a great time to speculate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► too much on it I would simply say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► if you're in the market for one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► home speakers like the Amazon echo or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► Google home or whatever else I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► it's probably worth waiting for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► announcement just to see what it is see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► what you know what you're dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► but I also am concerned because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► historically has not done well something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► that has to be cheap and integrates well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► with everything else people have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► based on a really reliable really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► advanced voice assistant maybe they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► become a different company maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► have really ramped up the API I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► do expect WGC to have a lot of Sirikit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► third-party apps I would love to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► functionality so that overcast could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► actually use the seer API because right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► now there's nothing for it to use but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► that would be nice if there was some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► to say you know hey thing play this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► podcast and overcast or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► that that would be awesome you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► it you can't do that now you can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► that's right because they I figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► whether we talked about this at the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► hour you see if it was like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► limited domain of things you can do it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► not so much the playing of the audio is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► the idea that this is a voice command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► that you can issue that causes something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► to happen like the head I've abstracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► app to just be like this is a desire for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► specifically your app can deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► they'll is all coming back to me now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► will come back to me more Debbie WC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► sessions but that's that's a killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► feature they're just described right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► there like just like it is a killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► feature of many of these TV attach pucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► where you can say you know play stepa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► sewed five season two of seinfeld and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► does that and even if you don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► world's worst television remote okay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► Apple remote it's a pain not to use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► use any remote to do that I the sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► I just said you will be watching that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► episode so much faster than if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► to navigate fine Seinfeld so my recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► shows Oh seasons season two scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► Scroll scroll episode five like it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► much better so being able to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► especially on you know overcast feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► suggestions especially if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► expect you to all have that already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► downloaded like you have overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► subscribed to the podcast that will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► to overcast directory find the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► that I think is the best match for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► download the episode number that us or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► and start playing it like all in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► thing again doing that by hand you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► do it by hand overcast right now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► being able to say that sentence into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► earphone and have it do that that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► be like magic right and and that is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► assume if and when they do any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► like music or audio type integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► with Siri with Siri kit I mean I assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► that's the kind of thing that they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► do because most other services that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► do this you know think of like a music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► streaming service they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► have the entire index of all songs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► are available on the service stored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► locally in the app they're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► to make a network request they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► to have to have some way for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► index their libraries and and to it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► server-side could then figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► you're actually asking about and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► know send like an ID to the to the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► and I think this is probably why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► didn't have it last year because all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► existing intents they call them for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► for Siri Kate like all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► ways you can use Siri kid you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► stuff like booking a ride or sending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► payment or things like that and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► are things that have like a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► command dictionary that you could pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► much deal with locally without having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► custom index content from uber or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► you know it and or you know any any what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► the other things like they can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► whereas if you say like integrate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► overcast or Spotify or things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► Siri has to has to have some way to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► index these services just to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► other possible things people can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► asking for and and you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► have some way to interpret what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► are asking to be those things and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► tell the app this person just asked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► the you know artist with this IDE and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► the track with this ID or whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► and that's a lot more to build so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► why I assume that it wasn't there last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► year and I don't even know if it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► to be this year or ever but if if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► integrate with audio services to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► right is going to involve all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► and that's a lot of work and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► lot of stuff for us to implement on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► site as well but it could be awesome the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► one advantage I feel like they have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► this is the you know we this happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► every time we talk about thing is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► you're in the audience and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► announcing whatever whatever their Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► thing is that you talk to right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► don't already have one of the existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► things that you talk to almost anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► the demo will look amazing if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► never seen it done before so assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► speaking of the audio thing assume they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► say even if it's just integrated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► Apple music it's not third-party you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► can't do it but Apple music has it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► they go up there and demo something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► they rattle off some sentence that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► like what's that song that goes blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► blah blah and maybe they hum a tune or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► do the lyrics or want you know some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► definitely were through that right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► it finds it because like you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► the you know amazon and google both have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► the say an arbitrary lyric from a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► and it will find it I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► either one of them has a do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► some the tune and it will find it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► I guess people aren't in tune enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2638">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► do that echo has lyrics search at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► I don't know if it has like like melody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► sir yeah as I'm saying like the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► home has it too if you say we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► literally any lyric from a song if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► get it close to right it will find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► song and play it it works amazingly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► right so it's almost as if an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► doesn't demo that they're just showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► that they're behind two people to note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► but if you don't have an echo and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► incredibly powerful and because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► Apple this is one of those places where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► Oh Apple just announced something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► whatever else has had for years and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► just get pressed goes there Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► effect exists right because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► they're good showman's and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► showmanship that they have and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► way they're able to you know give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► compelling demo in in ways that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► Amazon echo commercial or the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► home things are not able to and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► there's so many eyes on Apple and yada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► yada yada it is an opportunity for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► to really sell features that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► people have had for years that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► probably going to do worse and come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► looking like Wow Apple is amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► innovative and the only stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► will be hey apples playing catch-up are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► going to be in the nerdy tech press that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► we read you know well I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► Apple is going to own privacy looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► probably the UI on the screen uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► then you know maybe sound quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► because the echoes sound quality is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► that great I don't have a Google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► but who cares and it's sorry Shawn it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► not it's not great I mean you've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► it's not very big it's a one little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► dinky speaker thing in there right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► so Apple is probably going to own those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► things but the usefulness of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► products is based so heavily on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► incredible speed and reliability of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► voice service that's where I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► concerns about Apple because Siri for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► wonderful international support for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► the different you know the more advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► API that it has compared to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► echo because like what I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► earlier about like Sierra having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► parse the way that people say things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► kind of just pass off to the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► like alright the user requested this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2758">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► artist ID this track ID the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► like the echo does it is that has a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► limited vocabulary of what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► specify and then it just can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► like the exact words somebody said but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► then it's up to the application to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► figure out like how do i parse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► which is easier to implement it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► enables a lot more things from day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► to be possible that API because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► don't have to wait around for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► like to design your specific use case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► but it's way harder to actually use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► anything non-trivial where Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► going to come in from is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► they're going to come in with Sirikit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► support only I would imagine it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► to be really great for these like 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► the app types to integrate with this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► nobody else can or nobody else can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► anything useful with this so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► gonna be problem number one and part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► number two is just like again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► reliability of Siri and and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► advancement of Siri I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► have kept up and you know ever this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► always an argument everyone always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► thinks like oh well I asked the Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► device about this thing and it gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► this kind of weird answer and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► asked Siri to give me a better answer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► the the Google or amp and Amazon devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► don't support my language or my country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► and Siri does and that's all valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► everyone can have their own opinions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► I think overall it's fairly clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► Siri has been for most people less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► reliable and less smart on the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► than the other services and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► kind of device where like you know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► your phone it's kind of a secondary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► thing you know some people use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► heavily but for the most part like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► everywhere else the Siri exists kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► a secondary input type with this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► device it is the primary input method [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► and it has to be fast and it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► reliable and it has to get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► almost every single time and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► makes the Amazon products which I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► the most experience with that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► makes them so compelling when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► used to the Apple ecosystem when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► used to Siri when you first see an echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► you're like oh my god that was fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► then as you start using it more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► you're like this this works like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► time and that has just never been a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► of people's experience with Siri so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► this product to succeed I think Siri has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► to be way better than it is now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► maybe it is maybe they're about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► unveil a brand new version of Siri to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► everybody see that is way better and way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► more reliable I guess I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► likely based on their past performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► yeah those are all things that can hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► perspective like of course it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► work amazing in a demo because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► rehearse and you know it's all set up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► we won't know whether they've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► done a good job with it until we get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► things in our hand so why they get I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► think a bunch of positive reactions from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► the audience that's there because most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► people don't you know won't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► experience with the existing devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► like this oh everything they see is new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► and amazing and the performance will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► awesome on the stage because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► good at making a demo and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► like that and they'll get good press out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► of it from everybody except the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► press who knows they're playing catch-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► and this is assuming they don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► have some big Wow feature I bet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► have at least one headlining feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► that echoing home don't have whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► may be something that plays the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► strike it'll be privacy this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► privacy angle too but also especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► there's a one with the screen I bet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► can put better stuff more impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► things on that screen than Amazon can on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► terrible name is oh yeah their thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► something but Amazon is so bad at user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► interface design I expect that to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► clunky and it'll be underpowered so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► can't do like whatever crazy GPU is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► gonna be in the Apple one to have cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► effects and you know like just the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► kind of functionality but it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► even if it's just like nice screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► savers of your family that it pulls from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► your photo library this is another angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► by the way of like a it's why Casey will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► get one of these no matter you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► these why might you interested like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► cuz the Google home on I got because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► have lots of my life I used the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► ecosystem it's got my email my calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► and one copy of my photos but the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► copy of my photos are in Apple's photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► library and Google hoes is just my sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► of redundant backup that I use for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► know for search and other things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► that I'm interested in this one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► the other half of my life is not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► ecosystem so I would like one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► in my house so they'll have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► that I can talk to that has access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► the other half of my stuff and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► can do something interesting with it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► other problem is going to have is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► the support for home automation devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► is going to limit it to home kit and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► echo and other and the other things echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► supports way more than just home kit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► home kit is still like like every new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► smart home device is still not shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► with home kit today many of them are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► there's still a lot out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► especially most of the cheap ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► most people are probably actually buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► a lot of them are not home compatible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► they could play that up with a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► privacy angle right like I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► right about that but the way they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► spin that is part of their pitch to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► about privacy like I think it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► stringent requirements during the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► stringent security requirements with for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► devices that comply with it they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► come right out and say yeah there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► as much home good stuff out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► but the stuff you do by that is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► home kit certified will have a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► less chance of letting people own your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► entire house that's true yeah but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► like again it's gonna be the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► thing we're like the main selling points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► to this are going to be things that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► people aren't really going to think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► ask about or care about and the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► downsides of it are probably going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► cost and support of devices out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► and the reliability and and intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► of its voice assistant those are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► big things that's why I'm worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► this product I don't think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► going to go very far in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► unless there's I mean we haven't seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► or know anything about it yet we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► even know technically that it's real so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► this could all change when we see it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► I am very skeptical this product just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► because it seems like it requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► strength that Apple doesn't have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► know it'll be a good test for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► because this device is in many ways like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► Apple TV like it's you know a especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► the one with no screen a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► faceless device that's cheap small it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► strictly speaking even those running iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► under the covers and Apple TV is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► well look look how badly they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► with that device they've made so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► revisions have used to be this giant mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► running you know tiger that did some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► weird stuff with iTunes and it morphed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► into this puck which was better but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► it didn't get much better this the Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► in a puck in a tube and or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► thing is a great test to say is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► Apple TV not great because apples not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► good at making this kind of device or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► the Apple TV not great because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► never able to do the content deals or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► it some combination because it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► the biggest thing hobbling it is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► their grand visions for how this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► going to change the way you watch TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► have been thwarted by the fact that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► can't get their deals done they cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► produce a compelling offering that lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► people actually do all the things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► want to do and the poor are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► orphaned ghost town TV app on the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► TV is you know there's no better example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► of the apples failure to bring it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► together on the TV front most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► don't have complaints about the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► terrible remote which hopefully will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► be an issue on this tube thing so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► could be that Apple is really good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► making embedded devices that efficiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► listen to audio and play music and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► it you know maybe they're really good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► that and in this case they don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► any content deals because it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► you know a speaker and the microphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► at a tube but on the other hand if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► roll this out and it looks to us two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► years later like up it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► things that Apple makes like the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► expensive than the competition and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► as good and then we just like sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► and wait year after year for it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► updated in some way well Apple refuses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► to acknowledge the shortcomings yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► take small issue with what you said I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► really loved my Apple TV now to be fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► I use it for a very particular set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► tasks and it is very well suited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► basically what it boils down to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► playing Plex or playing Netflix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► that's basically all it ever does but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► for those things it's actually quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► good in I mean I'm not saying the remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► is perfect by any stretch but it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► it's not great but it's fine it works I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► I don't know I I wish it wasn't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► symmetrical but but complete compare it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► to the competition the other pucks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► have 4k support that cost less money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► that play Netflix just as well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► remotes are better on like that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► people say I believe is not bad the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3269">TS</a>]
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01:01:17 ◼ ► family situation usually you want all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► the pictures at least all the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► of the kids probably all the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► period to be together in one big library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► and not have to deal with you know two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► different people's libraries and sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► between them it's it's inefficient it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► hard to keep track of like the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► master library of family photos very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► often the solution is oh just designate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► one parent to be the official holder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► their Apple ID has this library right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► my wife's Apple ID she is the owner of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► the photos library so on her iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► she has access to all of our pictures on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► my iOS devices and on my Mac I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► access to only the pictures I've taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► with my iPhone because all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► pictures go into the big library and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► periodically I have to manually export [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► unmodified original you know to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► sure I get all the stuff you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► can't bother editing them I on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► just let them stream into my Mac export [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► all the unmodified originals and import [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► them into the quote-unquote real photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► library that is hers and we use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► this used to be mine and now it's hers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► we've gone back and forth it but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► this is not what I want and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► what any family wants and I think a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► of families do get by by having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► designated person who owns the photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► library but it's terrible because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► some you know we take so many pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► on our phones I don't to be signed into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► my wife's Apple ID on my phone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► it's bad enough that we all had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► that from the you know the old days of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► like buying things through the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► and Apple does let you be signed into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► the App Store as your spouse but sign it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► everything else is you like they let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► do that for sharing of apps that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► we do that we you know Aaron is me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► the app store but she is her in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► other way yeah an Apple added the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► capability to do that because it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► common arrangement but it's not great so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► Apple eventually added a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► ago now the concept of a family where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► interface say here are the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► are members of the family here are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► adults here are the children and family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► sharing allows you to share applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► that that allow this I think the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► is to allow but Marco would know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► you could configure your app to say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► not shareable like I don't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► experience pretty much all apps are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► this if I buy an app my children's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► iOS devices have access to to that app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► just because I bought it it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► bit weirder with in-app purchases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► since so many things are free with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► in-app purchases now it's still a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► bit weird but it is you know the the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► thing is Apple allows the concept of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► family to exist and membership in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► family to exist and that membership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► bring certain sharing privileges that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► only exist within the family including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► some things of like my kids try to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► stuff on their iOS device and it sends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► me a notification that I have to approve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► or deny like they're leveraging that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► functionality to do that so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► they're creeping up on it before it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► you be a bunch of a bunch of Apple IDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► that you'd be shared in weird ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► now you can construct a family unit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► and specify everything about it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► give kids Apple IDs which you didn't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► to be able to do now you can they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► need to take the next step which is stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► siloing libraries of photos and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► really difficult problem because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► might think well I don't want all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► photos from two people to be shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► like how would that even work in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► of billing and how do I keep some photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► private if I'm taking a million pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► of my phone of like you know a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► you know things in the hardware store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► for some repair I'm doing and my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► doesn't want them appearing at her phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► because you know that's just relevant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► me like it is a hard problem don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► me wrong it is not like they should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► snap their fingers and do this they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► need to make incremental progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► towards in it eventually they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► get there and even Google with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► thing of like oh you can just see all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► pictures and pick the ones that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► that is still incremental progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► because this is still two entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► different libraries it's just easing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3898">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► friction of how you get think money from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► one thing to the other but I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► constantly thinking oh did you pull on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► all the photos of yesterday or did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► did you forget some or where did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► leave off I just want them all to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► one big pool I just wanted to be our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► photos like the way it is now and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► really hope Apple is slowly but surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► working towards it and I hope moogle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► too because I think that is that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► better way for families to manage their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► photos than any of the current systems I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► libraries in your houses I do we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► duplication and lots of wasted effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► and lots of wasted iCloud space and hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► drive space and we are our own people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► and we you know have our own ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► doing things we have some of our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► pictures we have a bunch of family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► pictures it would be nice to have both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► but usually what actually happens is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► whenever one of us wants a picture the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► other one took we asked cross the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► whatever whatever and then we either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► airdrop it to week to each other or we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► go browse our hard drives on our network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► share and do it that way you get freaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► out about whether you're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► getting original quality when you share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► them with each other because almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► the sharing interfaces do not give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► original quality yeah we don't we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► do any of the sharing with like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► in inside the Photos app like the shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► albums like that will do with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► sharing photos with friends or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► for an event but but those are not full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► quality as Jason's now pointed out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► think I upgraded this this past week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► those are only like three megapixels I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► mean they're very very small when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► I'm doing like transferred between TIFF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► and I you know we just we either do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► airdrop or like direct file transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► like airdrop from the photos thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► iOS sometimes is that full is that full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► quality like do you get the raw if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► shot it in raw do you get a raw coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► over the wired you get a JPEG for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► transfers of Raw's that's when will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► usually involve just the network shares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► we're all just I will just open up her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► hard drive on my computer over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► network and pull the file over Ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► because Ethan it's awesome airdrop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► usually when the photo has originated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► an iPhone when it was taken by an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► then we will a or drop it you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► know and that's that I'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► that is the original file then in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► case the other terrible thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► separate libraries and sharing photos is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► individual people from doing edits or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► makes you feel bad about it because say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► you both have your own photos and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► own things and you've all done your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► edits and crop things and made them look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► nice you would like it and like what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► would want to happen is look we're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► say you are both using photos I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► know if you are but if you are both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► using Apple's Photos app why can't I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► all of that give me the unmodified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► original give me your modifications like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► it keeps them all losslessly like it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► all that information your only choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► instead are what I do would export [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► unmodified original which I really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► does what it says because I'm trusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► it but you are you are losing all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► edits at that point because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► saying forget about the edits and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► like oh why did I even bother do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► happens when we go on vacation lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► times we go on vacation and I'll putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► the photos into my photos library and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► Apple ID and like picking favorites and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► doing edits and then I have to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► laborious manual sync process it reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► me of the old days when I would get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► new Mac and like manually do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► migration assistant does today which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► know it was fun the first five or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► hundred times so it eventually gets old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► I will you know do all this picking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► editing and cropping and all this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► stuff and then when I come back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► home computer I have to like make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► bunch of smart albums to like pull all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► the favorites and export on modified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► originals for those and then redo my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► edits to make them look like I did over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► there cribbing off of them to see how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► decided to crop it and so it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► is not good at all and the other choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► is to just be like okay well I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► going to I'm going to import them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► my library because I I have the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► with me and then when I get home to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► real library I well you know I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► yeah modifications to them or I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► logged in as my wife the whole vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► and use her account in this thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► just a bunch of bad options yeah we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► solved that problem again by duplication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► there's lots of duplication the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► thing that helps here is that TIFF and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► both have very different editing styles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► she's way better at it but I will often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► take my own pass at things before her or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► if I don't think she's going to care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► about that photo more for something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► took and so usually my usually anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► edited in my library was edited by me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► and she takes her version it makes a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► better version later but that's again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► just we solve this vert we saw this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► problem just by duplication more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► more duplication and it's a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► solution but it does avoid a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► problems that any kind of shared library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► would add it's just really inefficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► another feature request our photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► anything that I do a lot is that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► have to people because like the editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► styles I have just me who has different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► ideas about editing it's a very frequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► operation for me is to duplicate a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► so I can do a different edit on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► because you can't have more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► edit per photo alright so with a faired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► a shared library family photo library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► one of the features they should have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► the ability to do multiple edits of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► single photo so then you could have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► TIFF edit and the Marco edit with one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► you know unmodified original beneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► them and have an interface to that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► would be great instead of me you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► instead of me duplicating a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► getting image one two three four you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► know copy JPEG and do modifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► there and you know like it's a thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► possible edits even if it's just two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► different crops right one one crop that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► you're going to use for sharing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► family because you know they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► be looking at on a phone and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► different crop and edit for the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► you're going to like you know print on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► fracture or something and then throw up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► on the wall because it'll be much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► yeah but lots of a low-hanging fruit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► the photo world for you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► features like this but then the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► sharing is not lying for it is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► difficult problem and I do see Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► making progress towards that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► can't wait for them to just finally to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► finally do it I think in general like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► kind of broadening this a little bit one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► of my biggest wish list items for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► Mac specifically and I know this is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► probably involve iOS also just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► of the way this big sink setup works but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► I just want the photos app to just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► more just get better and get more added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► to it you know like first on the realm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► of get better I really hope they finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► sync the recognition data between images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► so that each new device doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► run its CPU hot for three days just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► figure it all out itself that's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► still do you still use that feature I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► kind of given up on it already I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► I know but like in terms of oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► thinking mostly of the faces I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► you're talking about like find me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► picture of like a boat right that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► thing which I think works okay yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► works a google photos one is better but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► the face one is the one that I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► most hope for and that makes me the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► disappointed I continue to manually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► keyboard key word label the faces that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► care about which is incredibly tedious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► and the Photos app fights you every step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► of the way like when they remove the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► keywords from underneath you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► display them anymore yeah it's so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► to figure out which ones have keywords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► on them or not and I was like well why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► you need to do that just let the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► recognition figure it out and I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► train it and I try to convince it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► it's close but it still just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► guess what people who are genetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► related to each other tend to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► similar and it's it's a hard problem I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► don't blame them for a Google doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► get it perfectly either but I just wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► I could just say I don't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► about that if I want to find pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► my son I can just type in his name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► it will find all the pictures of my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► reality and photos it will find 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► yeah so photos there is so much area for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► improvement with photos not only in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► intelligence of what you're just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► recognition and the faces and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► and the syncing of that data which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► always my complaint that like why does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► you still eyes have to do this over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► over again and burn through with battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► for the first few days or weeks that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► own it and then just the entire Photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► app on iOS it's fine I wouldn't say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► great but it's fine the Mac Photos app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► really needs a lot of help it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► seemingly designed by people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► use photos apps and who have never used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► it if to edit more than like one photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► or to browse a library that had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► than ten photos it really does seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► it is it was like rushed out once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► three years ago whenever it came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► then not touched since in any meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► way and I really hope that changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► because there's so much promise because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► the sinking system they've built for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► iCloud photo library has been rock-solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► for me and for everyone else I've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► to who uses it it has been rock solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► it's a great sink system it's integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► into everything it gets everything look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► your phone automatically the sharing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► decent you know it's not amazing what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► decent good enough I just wish the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► on the Mac was better it is still not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► good or not as responsive or not as easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► to work through you know more than four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► photos as even iPhoto let alone aperture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► or Lightroom like it there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► room for improvement in just the basics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► of navigating it picking through photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► rating photos deleting the ones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► don't want to keep editing ones with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► uniform and minor edits like it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► like it's designed right now for maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► friction and to be as error-prone as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► possible and I just really really wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► and and this is a long shot I wish they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► would like I don't put a different team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► on it put a different designer on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► something get some new blood in there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► make the Photos app on the Mac great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► it or even just good I'm not asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► a lot here but like make it usable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► people to actually go through and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► through the thousands of pictures that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► we can now take with these amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► devices in our pockets all the time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► make that better make it easier make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► animations to all these different levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► deepen in this weird hierarchy just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► keystrokes quickly when you're deleting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► photos out of a big list move it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► right to the next one instead of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► just do do what every other photo app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► has ever done before and this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► doesn't do it so I really really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► they got better imagine if they added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► features to imagine that like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► actually added features like there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► next year there would be more features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► in it imagine that would be great I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► not I'm not even see I'm not asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► much I'm kind of asking for features at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► this point enough but like what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► about that my I think I listed photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► applications one year and we did like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► favorites list and it's for the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► said it's for the sinking and yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► know people have horror stories about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► like all my images for black thumbnails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► and I lost all my data in bla bla but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► like you Marco for me it is bid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► solid I just had my fingers crossed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► I'm not just lucky right and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► know that it really is I think it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► is reasonably reliable and so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► I love it because it solved that problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► for me or not for me for my wife because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► it's on her phone but anyway it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► the problem for one of us that's by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► way that's one of the things I use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► google photos for because we have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► thing where her Apple ID is the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► photo library and it's on her phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► her iPad but then I have Google photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► running on her account on her Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► uploading to my Google account so if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► want to pull one of our family photos i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► launched google photos on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► because it's the only way on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► that i can get to our families photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► and so yes i pay for you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► terabyte of storage in google and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► the maximum that you can buy an apple so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► it is not particularly monetarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► efficient this is the system I have I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► just never remembered that we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► about Google i/o yeah yeah this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► song about Alice well I mean the photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► photos was the thing photos the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► they talk about in like credit where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► credit is due to Google they are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► smart for giving them me that ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► the fact that I can run a client a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► a terrible thing on my Mac that somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► sucks all of the photos out of my Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► photos library and uploads into Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► by the way and I give it to second rant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► on this little thing it's like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► little menu bar icon it does what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► it to do which is like I'll find I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► know how I'll do it but I'll dig through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► your Apple crap and I will find your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► photos probably in a way that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► doesn't want us to do what they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► and it works and I will push them up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► the Google account of your choosing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► so from my wife's account I can push up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► to mine but this little menu bar thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► has this feature in terrible scare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► quotes where it will say it will tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► notification site try try to upload this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► these pictures to Google photos and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► failed click here to learn more and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► click and it gives you this terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► little tiny dialogue that lists these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► very long file paths that you can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► the right-hand side of unless you scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► all right and it says these are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► ones that failed and there's a button on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► it or other you know other is a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► or menu item whatever lets you through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► please retry them it's like don't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► for me to tell you just keep trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► little google thing and maybe here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► thing maybe it does automatically retry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► maybe it's going to retry no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► anyway but the fact that the UI has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► way for you to see what failed and click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► the retry button compels me to every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► time I'm on her computer do that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► because their file names are all obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► I can't tell is it trying to reach up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► load these seven rows over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► again just not upload rows at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► every time it fails to upload them it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► tells me about it or is it if I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► constantly and eventually succeed no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► to tell one of the worst like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► like nerd baiting interfaces because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► once you give me an interface to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► failed and give me a button to tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► to retry it's cruel it is a cruel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► interface and if someone Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► listening to this a either make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► thing never tell me about this and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► upload them all or be make it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► they have some explanation for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► failures and like or some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► progress indication or something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► will like if you're going to give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► information but otherwise I would prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► it if you just did your best and kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► trying without any input from me and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► drives me nuts I've lost my train of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► thought and I was in too busy being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► angry about the thing Google i/o no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► know I know exactly what you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► of and it's so bad you're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► right you use that thing as well Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► yeah yeah the uploader that's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► mandy do you get suckered into going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► into the fail dialog Phyllis I do and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► seems like there's about 10 files mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► raw now I have a ton of raw files don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► get me wrong so it uploads the raw as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► general point of fact but there are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► 10 files that it just seems to forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► be confused about and you can sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► figure out what they are but yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► everything you described an emphatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► thumbs up to well really thumbs down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► the uploader but thumbs up to what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► were saying because I completely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► have you gotten to the point where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► wrote down the file paths so the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► time a dialog comes up you compare or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► screenshot it or otherwise try to record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► it because I'm coming close to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► because you know you can't remember what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► they're all like nonsense names or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► whatever like is it the same 3 files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► that it's been telling you about every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► day for the past you know year and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► half and I don't know it's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► amounts I can tell you that sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► it's five sometimes it's a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► five sometimes it's 50 like it tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► the counts on them anyway I'm this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► very long trip around for me too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► fatica Lee agreeing with Marcos other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► complaint and that using Apple's photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► waist-deep molasses right and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► this is an esoteric thing that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► only that I'm particularly sensitive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► and I think not everybody has the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► hang-ups that I do about responsiveness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► right but I have big deep deep hang-ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► about responsiveness and everything I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► in photos because in photos you do a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► of repetitive go to the next thing crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► move resize adjust star favorite keyword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► go to the next thing delete go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► next thing like that cycle that thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► do when I when I do photos when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► through my photos every single operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► takes just a little bit longer than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► think is reasonable it everything has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► this lag has this okay eventually I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► do that oh did you want to crap oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► want exit full-screen oh you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► enter full screen oh you want edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► DeSoto wait a second okay now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► drawing the other thing like I want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► to be so fast that before the key comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► up off the keyboard I have it activated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► on key down for cry like I wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► so incredibly fast because I mean I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► at the time we bought this 5k iMac it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► the fastest iMac you could buy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► fastest Mac you could buy period in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► single threaded performance I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► what the holdup is I do have a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► library I admit that my library is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► small maybe if I literally did have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► hundred photos it would be fine I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► think I'm up to 80,000 90,000 I forget I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► don't know if I broke 100k yet I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► lot of photos I understand it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► difficult problem case but if like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► is this is what I want out of it and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► perception of it is that it is slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► now than it was a life oh that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► fair because when I was I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► iPhoto especially older versions of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► froze I had way fewer photos right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► on the other hand I also had a slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► Mac and there was no SSD and like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► either way that's what I personally want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► out of this program and aside from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► features I want it to just be so so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► faster make every single operation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► I do like have as little lag as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► no transition no no you know redrawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► transitions very very often I will hit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► key combo to like zoom to full screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► and either will ignore the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► hit spacebar to be like that never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► happened I'm never going to do that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► it will it will start at the animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► to go into editing mode but I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► double click the thing or click into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► edit mode it will start it perceptively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► after I am completely done with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► input I have clicked or double clicked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► or whatever nothing happens on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► screen for fractions of a second that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► seemed like an eternity and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► animation begins I just want to strangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► alright let's bring this back around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► remember we were talking about Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► i/o like three hours ago is that related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► to that and getting photos getting by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► some of us there was a comment I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► from somebody maybe it was Gruber maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► who's just retweeting somebody somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► saying that using Google photos in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► web browser it's more responsive than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► using the native Apple Photos app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► wouldn't quite go that far because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► don't do the sort of going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► photos picking and editing and tagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► and stuff in Google photos but I do use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► Google photos in the web interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► frequently basically to find a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► that I'm looking for I go into it I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► the search which i think is pretty neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► I try to use its facial recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► which is not really that much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► than apples but it's you know it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► I've got or whatever and my perception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► of scrolling through fro especially like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► scrolling through photos by date or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► filtering or searching those operations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► do actually feel faster in Google photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► in Chrome then using the native app but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► everything I imagine you'd end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► like download speed being an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► because you gotta you know I if I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► to see the full res photo to edit and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► want to go to the next full res photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► that's going to happen a way faster on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► my 5k iMac with everything coming off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► the SSD than it is going to be pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► that stuff over the network so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► going to go as far as whoever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► person was who said that the web version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► felt better than the native but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► that there are any operations in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► is a contest shows that Apple though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► a long way to go and kudos to Google for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► making essentially a web page that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► can go to that I can scroll through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► literally 90,000 photos and find what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► want it's pretty amazing yeah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► this isn't like a web versus native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► argument this is just the Photos app on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► the Mac it's just not very good at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► really is quite poor and especially when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► you get into any kind of operation like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► this where you're trying to go through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► batch of photos and pick through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► delete and maybe star or do minor edits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► on even its again it's just like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► fights you at every turn like it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► like it wants to show you its animations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► more than it wants you to get your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► you're just you're always waiting for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► something it's also I don't know it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► do you guys think of the the incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► deep like modal hierarchy that it has in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► the various editing controls like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► know they typically like in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► image editors you have like a browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► mode and then you enter editing mode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► in editing mode pretty much all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► controls are visible it were or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► very close or at least like can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► collapsed out really quickly with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► triangle drop-down thing but with photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► both on iOS and on the Mac it it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► these like this like second-tier so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► everything is like 2 or 3 levels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► where like you go into editing mode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► you don't just have a crop control you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► have the like you know it controls box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► and you open up the controls box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► then you can crop from in there or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► and like everything is like 2 or 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► levels deep and I find that quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► cumbersome in real use and I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► kind of a challenge on mobile because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► there's not a lot of space for controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► but on the Mac that's not true but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► seems like on the Mac they have copied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► unnecessarily I guess for consistency or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► because they didn't have any better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► ideas I don't know but there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► of powerful controls that photos on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► Mac has but they're buried under so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► different levels and modes and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► to toggle them on every single time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► all these different things that I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► it just incredibly cumbersome is it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► me no that's that was I remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► last time I complained about it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► about the crop aspect original crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► aspect original price because because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► wouldn't remember and also as you point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► out because why do I have to go three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► levels deep to get to this anyway like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► on my 5k IMAX screen it's comical that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► have to click the thing to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► screen where I can get my crop options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► then click the thing that brings up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► crop options then click like there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► much room on the side of that screen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► could put literally every edit control I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► controls here like you know that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► applications you know from Adobe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► summit have a bunch of configurable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► power pallets I'm not saying photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► needs configurable palettes that is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► know Pro feature the regular people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► don't to throw a bunch of Palestinian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► faces it's too much but the old version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► you know iPhoto before photos had a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► mac like interface where they said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► we got all the screen real estate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► let's put as many of the commonly used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► editing functions on the screen at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► same time it's you know it's visible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► interface in the same way that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► used to be all into the toolbars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► stuff like don't hide everything away if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► you have if you can make the controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► visible to somebody it's easier them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► going going hunting for them and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► multi-layer certainly is elegant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► clean but it adds insult to injury on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► the timing thing because even a setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► aside the mysterious lag before anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► happens all those transitions have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► know some kind of animation and they add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► preferences and if you do the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► over and over again you just feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► you're it's like you're eating dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► but every time you wanted to take a bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► of your dinner you had to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► silverware drawer closed sword will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► back down take a line take a bite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► your dinner and then throw that fork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► away into the garbage the next time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► want to take a bite you got to get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► from your seat go to the chicken go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► get a floor or take out your fork closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► to our come back sit down take a bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► with it throw the fork away that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► using photos feels like my word I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► not have put it better that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► perfect that's exactly how it feels so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► Kotlin is a thing remember we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► about i/o kids so Google announced first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► party support or official blessing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► nothing else for Kotlin now Kotlin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► the language by JetBrains JetBrains is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► third party entity if you're done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► developer or were once a.net developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► resharper is a JetBrains thing if i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► recovering content developer and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► JetBrains knows development tools pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► darn well and they decided to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► with Kotlin which my vague understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► compatible with the Android libraries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► I believe it is shoot I probably have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► that wrong I apologize but anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► thing the ide that is the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► I believe started as a JetBrains IDE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► this is for all of Android development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► not just Kotlin and so um so yeah now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► Google has said hey we understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► Collins a thing we embrace it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► want to make your apps and in Colin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► Colin then feel free and what's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► fascinating about Colin is it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► eerily similar to Swift now at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► probably saying well actually it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► exactly like Swift at all and bla bla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► but the point is at a glance it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► really really really similar to Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► and that's a huge improvement because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► you've ever seen how absolutely bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► closures are in Java or at least up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► until modern versions of Java which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► don't think Android supports or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► has just recently supported closures are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► comically awful and so Kotlin is a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► ish language it was started around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► same time as Swift and looks really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► really similar to Swift there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► website that's going around we'll put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► link in the show notes it is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► flawless comparison of Swift and Kotlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► but it gives you a basic idea of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► the two of them look like side by side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► we'll put that in the show notes like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► said this is super cool the team at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► had been kind of looking at Kotlin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► debating whether or not they they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► to dive in with it but it kind of pushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► their pump the breaks because it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► well now it's officially blessed and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► now we're going to start using it as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► well really the Android teams go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► start using as far as I'm aware so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► is all really cool stuff and I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► excited about it and I'm interested to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► see if server-side Swift and server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► Kotlin if either of those really becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► a thing and if so do both of them become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► a real thing or is it just Swift or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► Kotlin and you know we are there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► cross compatibility libraries between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► the two I'm just curious to see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► all this goes but I think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► super positive move by Google cuz man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► the versions of Java that our team is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► using oh they're ugly man are they ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► so this website that compares Swift's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► and Colin I mean it's a useful thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► have and you know one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► people are most interested about when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► they hear in your language is like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► does it look like and so this website is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► kind of saying at the top level here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► how they look similar and they do look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► very similar like what is the syntax so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► what are they use for defining these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► common constructs and everything as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► scroll down this page you eventually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► to things that I'm more interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► which is alright well so for the easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► stuff like addy define a function in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► variable and iterate over things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► stuff like that yeah every language has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► those but you get to the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► define the language that have nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► do with the syntax like the way swiftly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► --nz on protocols and how it uses them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► to implement its standard library and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► how you're expected to use them in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► functions versus using inheritance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► stuff like that and the struct versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► class thing those are the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5515">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► practically speaking more than the than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► the syntax because the syntax is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► thing people care about it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► like that's the cover of the book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► what's in the book is what really makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► it different and if you scroll on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► thing you see the Colin is actually at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► least superficially similar to Swift in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► that it supports a lot of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► constructs as tuple return values it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► does have protocols it's difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► me to tell without knowing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► about Colin other than reading up a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► pages about it how deep the similarity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► goes in terms of the things I just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► with like you know how how does it use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► protocols in you know how does it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► language expect you sort of culturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► standard library to use protocols versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► inheritance does it have the struct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► versus class distinction with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► trade-offs of Swift has or does it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► have that at all that's that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► the interesting question to me is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► know how language looks is kind of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► in that you'll be like okay I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► scared of this it doesn't look like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► know or lying or Haskell it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► something I'm familiar with so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► comfortable diving right in but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► know what does this language bring in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► terms of new constructs and new ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► programming and to that and the more the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► other things I've heard about Colin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► maybe Casey can correct me if I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► is that it has some things in its tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► chest or standard library or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► in terms of concurrency is that the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► I don't know if Kotlin has it but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► assure you that that Swift is not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► yet I mean they swift as Grand Central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► Dispatch but it's not entirely the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► of thing that most people want like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► most people want is more along the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► of dotnet say sink await and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► certainly does not exist in Swift I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► honestly don't know if it exists in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► common yeah but that's why I had heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► that it had either some son-of-a sinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► that the Kotlin has some kind of async [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► stuff or maybe also co-routines like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► or you know that it was ahead of Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► in the area of concurrency because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► had they had chosen a solution for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► and had undertaken it and so if ii still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► like it still swift knows that it needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► to add it eventually and they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► their the big solution for that and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► i said of the meantime it's like use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► Grand Central Dispatch obviously Colin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► is not an option for Apple because Colin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► does not press Objective C Interop which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► is kind of important for Apple so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► there's that and you know for our Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► this is kind of weird that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► coming from a company that's outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► Google like this is the move for Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► to buy them now because they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► reason this can happen is a JVM based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► language and they have is you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► don't have to use Java there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► other language there on top of the JVM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► and here's one of them and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► Kotlin is reportedly really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► about Java compatibility because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► that's their equivalent of objective-c [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► inter-app it's you know no you totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► can use this with your java code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► even the weird nitty-gritty corner case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► details will make that interrupt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► perfect because that's that's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► thing's whole purpose in life so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► could be the Kotlin ends up being Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► Swift do they just buy this company or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► whatever is an open standard just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► adopted whole-hog and say you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► stop like Apple has said stop using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► other language use this one instead from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► now on all of our examples are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► libraries all over everything will be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► this Kotlin world I mean the two main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► barriers that one this company is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► owned by Google yet and to the name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► terrible letter enough k ot li n big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► thumbs down apologize that's someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► last name but when you're naming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► computer language marketing counts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► Swift is a better name it's an island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► off Russia I believe or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► that it's there is a thing or place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► and I don't remember what it is and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► mean it's okay on the plus side on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► plus side it's a little easier to search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► for because there are a few things other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► than this island or whatever that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► named Kotlin whereas there's a gazillion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► things that are named Swift or that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► the word Swift in them not the least of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► which is Taylor Swift but um but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► think it really rolls off the tongue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► either so I don't know win some lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► it's like Apple with the place names for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► Mac OS like it's good for you just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► year's OS is named at this place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► California you can get it with kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► vanity place name sort of regional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► things like that with yearly releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► but if you're going to name a language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► probably not the best idea to name it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► after some obscure place that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► near the people who made it but what can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► you do it's their thing they name it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► right up until Google buys it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► rebrands it indeed but now I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► excited about this I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► really awesome again I mean look it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► forget what version of Java that our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► team is using but it's at least a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► generation or two old and when you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► at how they use closures and what they I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► think what they have to do is they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► to make like an anonymous class and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► implement a function on that class or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► particular details aren't really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► important just the point is that to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► a closure it is just comically just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► and in clunky and ridiculous and so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► just getting a language that supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► closures better I think is a huge win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► yes I know that more modern versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► Java do support this sort of thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► but again based off of what I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► day-to-day it isn't a thing in our world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► in whatever version of Java we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► running on and this is already a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► I thought jumper programmers liked tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► of complexity in making tons of classes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► programming in Java they're like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► their ID does that for them I just I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► to two or three characters and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5845">TS</a>]
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01:37:36 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► mean to begin cuz it was accidental oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► it was accidental John didn't do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► research Marco and Casey wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► notes at 80 P dot F M and if four into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► Twitter you can follow them at CAS II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► while ISS so that's Casey list and a are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► Co AR m and T Marco Arment SI r AC USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► you know I really hope that the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► MacBook actually comes out soon like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► know and and you know people are saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► they might come out next week or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► weeks from it everybody see I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► hope that it does because I cannot wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► to hear what you think of it after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► I really am curious to hear this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► you tend to have relatively similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► needs as I do yeah and you know most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► most people who I know who have had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► 12-inch MacBook who have enjoyed it have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► had much lighter needs you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► people who were who were writers or her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► doing like basic productivity tasks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► email and stuff on it mostly I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► know a lot of programmers who used them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► and so I would I would love to hear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► opinion of it when you when you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► and I can't say I'm rooting for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► hate it but I am it that might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► interesting if you did I don't know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► just I really want to hear your opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► of it and that's assuming that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► don't make like massive upgrades to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► on this next version which I doubt they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► I'm expecting the same thing but with KB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► Lake well to be fair I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► would be doing very much development on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► it you know if I did it would just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► for personal things like it's unlikely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► that I would do any real work and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► that I mean work for my job work on it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► would certainly write for my blog and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► that's just Visual Studio code which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► electron based but unlike slack is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► actually well done and though and so III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► would do a little development sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► likelihood of me running xcode for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► than a few minutes to do like a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► fix or something like that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► terribly likely so i understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► you're saying and by and large I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► with you and I am also interested in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► but I don't think it's a perfect apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► to apples comparison because I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► probably not be doing much quote unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► so eventually assume my work ever buys a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► new line of apples laptops and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► continue to buy the 2015's all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► us will have daily access to a Mac with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► the new low profile keyboard and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► be interesting test case one I guess for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► reliability well speaking of reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► I just learned that the Mac the 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► MacBook Pro I have a work has the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► delamination problem Oh like the first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► thought it was I thought it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► someone had rubbed off the anti glare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► surface but now seeing Gruber post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► pictures of his issue and hearing other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► delamination thing which in theory I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► could just go again replace but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► going to because it's not my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► and I don't want to be without it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► work but then all three of us having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► keyboard we'll see where we all end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► with in terms of liking or disliking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► feel of the keyboard we'd have heard a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► lot of reports from people saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► they really loved it and that the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► keyboards feel like junk now and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► like that could definitely be a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► but then also reliability if all three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► of us get it and within a couple months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► all three of us have keyboard problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► that caused them to be repaired again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► perhaps not statistically significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► even though that phrase means nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► and then with no anything but anyway it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► is something versus if it's just Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► that has the problem in our keys work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► fine for year after year yeah I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► ends up being the case and if yours are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► perfect then I will gladly go in and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► mine serviced and not complain about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► anymore after well for maybe we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► also use like outdoors where it's hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► I'm in case you can do that down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► in the south but like if you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► take your beach and stuff I'm just using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► mine in that condition office I'm never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► gonna run into whatever heat expansion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► thing you're running into what seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► that it was like in the 70s it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► even that hot but but what happened like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► when I when I first the problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► just the Oh key was stuck down and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► I eventually dislodged it and it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► you know stuck back up what when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► realize it was a bigger problem was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► I was sitting you know in this like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► know 75 degree you know environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► typing away all of a sudden lots of keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► started misbehaving and feeling weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► sounding different and clicking weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► and being less reliable and that's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► I realized this is not just one speck of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► dust under one key this is like many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► keys suddenly misbehaving and then since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► that day it hasn't happened again so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► like this is not just a dust thing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► is this is an actual flaw in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► these things react to something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► seems like it might be heat but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► know it's it's really I hope this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTi1e9M/6178">TS</a>]