The Incomparable

156: Airline of Snitches

 

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  the Intolerable number 156 Marcus 2013 [TS]

  welcome back to be uncomfortable podcast [TS]

  I'm your host Jason smell and in this [TS]

  episode we're going to be doing [TS]

  something a little bit different from [TS]

  what we usually cover which is you know [TS]

  geeky movies and TV shows and books and [TS]

  comics and stuff like that [TS]

  this is going to be an experiment i like [TS]

  to call the old movie club we have more [TS]

  frequent Movie Club i was watching an [TS]

  old movie and thinking to myself I am [TS]

  completely illiterate when it comes to [TS]

  movies made before the eighties probably [TS]

  with very few exceptions and those [TS]

  exceptions of the boring exceptions it's [TS]

  2001 or it's gone with the wind or the [TS]

  wizard of oz or casablanca the ones that [TS]

  everybody already knows so I i have [TS]

  enlisted an expert who is a 90 year old [TS]

  man no heart at heart i have the heart [TS]

  of a 90 year old man and I'm not giving [TS]

  it back no matter how much you scream [TS]

  like this he had so are our mentor in [TS]

  this journey into into old movies is the [TS]

  voice you just heard which is his first [TS]

  appearance outside of the radio drama [TS]

  that is on this podcast it is Philip [TS]

  Michaels hello you have a podcast it [TS]

  turns i I've kept some panelists for [TS]

  certain reasons I've kept it from you [TS]

  but I'm glad you could see was asking [TS]

  earlier why you haven't been on before [TS]

  and I said it's because he's not [TS]

  interested in any of the things we [TS]

  talked about so consumed with hatred [TS]

  here we are I thought contain multitudes [TS]

  and joining me on this adventure of [TS]

  watching a couple of old movies that [TS]

  Phil assigned to us are my guest tonight [TS]

  David lure hello hi this is the [TS]

  Marmaduke episode right it maybe if we [TS]

  wait around long enough it could that [TS]

  could happen pool or the magnet is [TS]

  episode also possible who even better [TS]

  Steve let's is also here hello Steve [TS]

  good evening Jason I to know nothing of [TS]

  old films all right in the two that i [TS]

  have watched now that's right we're like [TS]

  babes in the wood [TS]

  it's that's not entirely true i've seen [TS]

  a lot of bad fifties films the mystery [TS]

  science but Riley avoided the good stuff [TS]

  like that things are actually good [TS]

  yep and Dan Morgan is also here because [TS]

  he's contractually obligated to be on [TS]

  every podcast hi Dan you know I'm [TS]

  actually a bit of a ringer which was I'd [TS]

  already seen both of these mom what [TS]

  sipho I didn't realize it was it was a [TS]

  necessity we hadn't seen my ID team in [TS]

  love both these movies but i actually [TS]

  don't ya get lex friedman on the line [TS]

  immediately he he still hasn't seen the [TS]

  moment when the amateurs basically clam [TS]

  up and you're like I don't know [TS]

  forgiveness is pretty funny then you can [TS]

  jump in with your your season 2 [TS]

  knowledge I don't take anything away [TS]

  from filled with master if he's the [TS]

  master i'm only a journeyman in this [TS]

  regard parents had one Alec Guinness is [TS]

  kind of funny was my top talking point [TS]

  so now you haha alright everyone Kenobi [TS]

  circle joke but where you gonna sell to [TS]

  help tell it that exact same way our [TS]

  viewers yes [TS]

  yeah sorry I've ruined my god goodnight [TS]

  everybody [TS]

  so so fill the premise here I i asked [TS]

  you to come up with some ideas for old [TS]

  movies we can watch and you came up with [TS]

  a few different sort of themed choices [TS]

  of two or three movies that fit the [TS]

  theme and what right we tried to pick [TS]

  some that were readily available so one [TS]

  of these movies is available on netflix [TS]

  and one of them is available at least [TS]

  for rental on itunes so there are [TS]

  available for rental on itunes but as I [TS]

  invented both this week to to review [TS]

  them so that i wouldn't say ridiculous [TS]

  things so I'm unlike him in RM a club [TS]

  episode where John syracuse it shows [TS]

  movies that are essentially unavailable [TS]

  unless you sell a kidney in Japan was [TS]

  surprisingly easy to do what you have to [TS]

  get a ticket to Japan and you have to [TS]

  have a spare kidney but otherwise yes [TS]

  exactly so so these are available and [TS]

  what the ones we settled on that was a [TS]

  was heists right that was the paper [TS]

  movies a series I'm kind of caper movies [TS]

  a choice [TS]

  yeah the most the most delicious of all [TS]

  condiments the king [TS]

  me better than the ketchup movie so so [TS]

  we we picked movies to watch old from [TS]

  the 1950s from the nineteen fifties [TS]

  which was which was not knock by design [TS]

  actually but it worked out well yeah so [TS]

  we get we got a movie from 1951 and [TS]

  moving from 1956 and I thought maybe [TS]

  Phil could start by explaining why he [TS]

  chose these two movies so the first one [TS]

  is a comedy a british comedy awards [TS]

  right it's up the Lavender Hill mob [TS]

  helmet um the reason I i chose this one [TS]

  is is Alec Guinness is kind of funny [TS]

  kind of it is kind of funny [TS]

  it's um from a movie studio in England [TS]

  that the the ealing studios and they [TS]

  they made a name for themselves a among [TS]

  film buffs for for producing comedies of [TS]

  the sort that are sort of like looks at [TS]

  the British character and and society [TS]

  and and that sort of thing and many of [TS]

  them in fact star Alec Guinness he was a [TS]

  bit of a comedy genius and this is I [TS]

  think that the my favorite healing [TS]

  studio movie on I i first stumbled [TS]

  across it the director of it directed a [TS]

  fish called wanda actually in nineteen [TS]

  nineteen eighties and that is one of my [TS]

  favorite movie comedies of all times so [TS]

  i did not know that means deep back into [TS]

  the the archives of of stuff that people [TS]

  do i noticed that he did a comedy with [TS]

  Ben Kenobi and I thought oh I should [TS]

  look up that know and there we go it's a [TS]

  shit should we talk about the second [TS]

  movie first or do we want to launch into [TS]

  the lavender a little bit let's let's [TS]

  recap so the second movie that we that [TS]

  we watched is from 1956 it's called The [TS]

  Killing it's not to be confused with [TS]

  that TV show where they promised that [TS]

  you'd have a resolution after the first [TS]

  season and then they turned out that was [TS]

  a horrible lie [TS]

  yes now things actually happened in this [TS]

  the killing it yes and it's direct it's [TS]

  directed by somebody you may know as [TS]

  little director i like to call what's [TS]

  the director of our eyes wide shut [TS]

  and uh and let's get and berries indian [TS]

  school he's not a or you could say yeah [TS]

  like 2001 a Space Odyssey almost made it [TS]

  big or the or the shinning the kids are [TS]

  alright it's because the sequel to The [TS]

  Killing it's Stanley [TS]

  rubric yeah and young stanley kubrick's [TS]

  look like muppet babies and it stars [TS]

  probably if you're not a fan of old [TS]

  movies it stars nobody you've heard of [TS]

  the lead actors fella called sterling [TS]

  Hayden and he he had a nice little run [TS]

  in the nineteen fifties probably most [TS]

  well known as the corrupt police captain [TS]

  in the godfather [TS]

  Oh Michael Corleone shoots how's the [TS]

  italian food in this joint back huh [TS]

  that's him you have the square John i [TS]

  frisked a million young punks [TS]

  yeah he's he's like um he's like mr. [TS]

  nondescript waspy guy right and he's [TS]

  like hey guys a tough guy [TS]

  I gotta let him his big his big role 18 [TS]

  in the the in the nineteen fifties if [TS]

  you needed a movie tough guy you called [TS]

  sterling Hayden I'm uh I'm looking up on [TS]

  IMDb who else they have in this role [TS]

  they were trying to get for the role [TS]

  because it's basically can we get this [TS]

  movie tough guy no alchy sterling Hayden [TS]

  them and he and he's nice and Elijah [TS]

  cook jr. is also in the movie out of it [TS]

  yes you may remember not at all from a [TS]

  little bit ly i like to call the maltese [TS]

  falcon or you may remember from a TV [TS]

  show called magnum p.i where he played [TS]

  ice pick that's right or feel like [TS]

  texting him at about 6,000 that you you [TS]

  have yeah he does a lot of things like [TS]

  the exact same character every single [TS]

  he's got a distinctive face [TS]

  yeah ya know he basically he is the role [TS]

  he perfected was I am a sad sack and i [TS]

  am a second bad things happen to me and [TS]

  i get i get roughed up in and usually [TS]

  kill he was the steve buscemi I think of [TS]

  this era of three bogeys like crap out [TS]

  of the multi spoken so the value your [TS]

  you don't know because you're not a [TS]

  gigantic nerd like me but the where I [TS]

  know I shook from is he played and i [TS]

  have to say it this way because you're [TS]

  exactly right he played sad-sack defense [TS]

  attorney Samuel T Cogley in Star Trek he [TS]

  defends Captain Kirk and his [TS]

  court-martial and in the episode court [TS]

  marketing episode called court-martial [TS]

  he plays the court-martial they come up [TS]

  with that title star trap yeah well it's [TS]

  a it's an old show [TS]

  sounds like a combination of science and [TS]

  fiction [TS]

  yes and it might be aimed at kids it's [TS]

  no no magnum p.i just put it that way [TS]

  far fewer episodes were never fly of [TS]

  Star Trek then of magnum p.i all you [TS]

  need to know about Elijah cook jr. is [TS]

  that in the maltese falcon he plays the [TS]

  young gunman who gets roughed up by [TS]

  humphrey bogart and that is the that is [TS]

  the manliest t is ever a camera yeah [TS]

  that is that that is the high point of [TS]

  Elijah cook as a movie tough does he [TS]

  like pulled out his jacket and like yeah [TS]

  instructions and guns away from him and [TS]

  says they have Sydney Greenstreet a [TS]

  crippled news he took these away from [TS]

  him i made up moving back and that is an [TS]

  election cooks this is my moment of [TS]

  manliness is in shame he was gunned down [TS]

  like a dog [TS]

  so where should we start should we talk [TS]

  about [TS]

  Lavender Hill mob first since it was [TS]

  chronologically yeah let's do that first [TS]

  let's do that [TS]

  it's the it's the lighter movie a little [TS]

  bit a few laughs in that one little [TS]

  little bit i got a lot of laughs out of [TS]

  the second one will get theirs it [TS]

  these two movies have the same ending [TS]

  though which i think is interesting [TS]

  yeah i'll get to this true automatically [TS]

  yeah yeah so the Lavender Hill mob Phil [TS]

  you know this movie better meet you want [TS]

  to explain what happens to what the [TS]

  lavender pill mob is about here i will i [TS]

  will give the the the 99 cent tour of [TS]

  the plot it is Alec Guinness is a bank [TS]

  clerk in in London and his job is to [TS]

  accompany the gold bullion on its way [TS]

  from where it's melted to the bank and [TS]

  where Delta and he uh he's sort of this [TS]

  perceived as this worthy guy but he has [TS]

  big dreams and and and he's actually [TS]

  plotted out a way to rob all the gold [TS]

  bullion but all he needs is a is a [TS]

  partner and the partner arrives in the [TS]

  form of Stanley Holloway who moves into [TS]

  his boardinghouse in Lavender Hill which [TS]

  is where where the title of the movie [TS]

  comes from Stanley Holloway you may [TS]

  remember him from such movies as my fair [TS]

  lady where he plays Alfred P Doolittle [TS]

  common common dustman he in this movie a [TS]

  totally different character bit of an [TS]

  artist and he knows how to melt things [TS]

  down hey that's that's handy if you want [TS]

  to get gold [TS]

  we ran out of the out of the country and [TS]

  to make ends meet he works at a factory [TS]

  where they manufacture cheap Eiffel [TS]

  Tower uh souvenirs and so made of lead [TS]

  made of LED and Alec Guinness and [TS]

  Stanley Holloway uh hatch on this plot [TS]

  that what they're going to do is they'll [TS]

  rob the rob the the delivery truck [TS]

  meltdown the gold bars and turn them [TS]

  into Eiffel Towers that the that will [TS]

  then be shipped out of the country with [TS]

  no one suspecting that they're really [TS]

  made of of gold and they'll be retrieved [TS]

  in France and the rest of the movie is [TS]

  them on recruiting a couple other [TS]

  hapless gangsters to join their mama arm [TS]

  in one of my I have a couple favorite [TS]

  scenes in the movie in the movie where [TS]

  they they basically set up a trap to [TS]

  trap to to trap crooks 22 and it's it's [TS]

  very funny because a couple of different [TS]

  quickshop to rob the place that the plot [TS]

  goes hilariously arrived they they make [TS]

  away with the gold but complications [TS]

  ensue [TS]

  I think that's fair to say mhm and I I [TS]

  don't want to give away any of the rest [TS]

  of plaque is there are a few you know [TS]

  surprises in a few pleasing moments of [TS]

  discovery including the the final shot [TS]

  of the movie which we which we won't [TS]

  talk about that we won't have to be [TS]

  stupid to be fair it is a 62 year old [TS]

  movie we could probably still thinks [TS]

  when there's a reasonably 16k shall we [TS]

  talk about the ending of the movie yeah [TS]

  let's let's let's fire off the old-time [TS]

  spoiler or now [TS]

  yes [TS]

  this is dwight david eisenhower a [TS]

  spoiler is coming [TS]

  Thank You mr. president yes no problem [TS]

  i'm going back to planning the d-day [TS]

  invasion [TS]

  I'm not president yet i'm only a general [TS]

  all right Thank You general [TS]

  you're welcome I like your political [TS]

  prospects in the future but now I i [TS]

  might go become president of Columbia [TS]

  first [TS]

  ok that's the University not the picture [TS]

  studio or the country [TS]

  yeah that's just ridiculous already how [TS]

  so the movie begins with a framing [TS]

  device where it's alec guinness living [TS]

  living a life of luxury in I guess [TS]

  Brazil and he's spending money like he's [TS]

  gotta spend it all right then or never [TS]

  again he is right given money and and [TS]

  everybody loves them and they're like [TS]

  hey you're so great and we and we should [TS]

  point out that this is not he is not [TS]

  swap he is not he is he is he is wormy [TS]

  little Alec Guinness is a gigantic nerd [TS]

  City just yes it's it like if bill gates [TS]

  where we're casting this movie it would [TS]

  be a perfect perfect gotta study [TS]

  he has a real burgess Meredith thing [TS]

  going for him hear it yeah I have [TS]

  expected to break his glasses at some [TS]

  point be horribly lost and audrey [TS]

  hepburn stops by it was Audrey Hepburn's [TS]

  planted her first movie role of getting [TS]

  to say if Audrey Hepburn walks by in you [TS]

  know I have a pile of money i think i [TS]

  probably given as she keep the Shekinah [TS]

  here's some cash [TS]

  the story there apparently is that she [TS]

  was she was going to have a bigger role [TS]

  in the movie and she couldn't do it [TS]

  because she had to be in a play but Alec [TS]

  Guinness was so taken with her that he [TS]

  insisted that she she like get a smaller [TS]

  part yeah this is well but this is what [TS]

  two years before Roman holiday which was [TS]

  her sort of breakout role [TS]

  yeah yeah so and then Alec Guinness [TS]

  turns and tells his story to the guy [TS]

  said seed seated next to him at the at [TS]

  the table and in this brazilian club and [TS]

  thus the story unfolds and then when at [TS]

  the end it's revealed that oh he had [TS]

  come to arrest Alec Guinness because [TS]

  they're handcuffed together and it's [TS]

  it's just a very it's a fun little uh a [TS]

  way to wrap up the picture and suddenly [TS]

  you realize why when you were watching [TS]

  that opening scene you felt sort of odd [TS]

  about the way he was handing out the [TS]

  money [TS]

  yes why is he only using is one [TS]

  hand huh the both of these movies [TS]

  actually have conceits and we when we [TS]

  get the other one will talk about the [TS]

  other one but but concedes that i always [TS]

  think of as being in vogue in modern [TS]

  movies where they play with perspective [TS]

  and they play with time and things like [TS]

  that and yet both of these movies do the [TS]

  same thing this isn't this is a perfect [TS]

  example of one of these things where i [TS]

  would i would think of it as a a very [TS]

  overused modern trick of well he by [TS]

  letting us know that he escapes then it [TS]

  changes how we view the entire movie and [TS]

  then at the end it does the little [TS]

  double-cross and you realize that they [TS]

  did catch up to him and he's and then [TS]

  he's helped head out in this his [TS]

  handcuffs I i guess one of the things i [TS]

  learned here is that these tricks are [TS]

  even older and more and more hackneyed [TS]

  in some ways that I thought because they [TS]

  go back for 60 years if you thought they [TS]

  were overused now [TS]

  yeah then the narrative part of it that [TS]

  was interesting to me which also kind of [TS]

  applies to both of them is that are our [TS]

  heroes who are you know antiheroes in a [TS]

  way but like lovable antihero sheriff's [TS]

  reset maybe maybe not so much in the [TS]

  killing but in this one anyways they [TS]

  don't get away with it right like today [TS]

  I think if we had the sort of roguish [TS]

  you know guy who's were rooting for he [TS]

  would get away at the end like I think [TS]

  even if you did a framing device like [TS]

  this he would he would somehow white get [TS]

  I come out on top which does not really [TS]

  happen I'm going off the internet here [TS]

  but are originally they were thinking [TS]

  about having them get away with it and [TS]

  the reason they changed it is because [TS]

  they thought that the movie wouldn't get [TS]

  imported into America crime doesn't have [TS]

  a care in the space that was my question [TS]

  actually I that I was going to ask [TS]

  whether any of the caper films of the [TS]

  period actually end with the thieves [TS]

  getting away scot-free or is there [TS]

  something in the motion picture code [TS]

  that says that the long arm of the law [TS]

  must prevail it be there was definitely [TS]

  in the u.s. code that you had to that [TS]

  you couldn't have people enjoying crime [TS]

  or are reaping the reaping the lungs you [TS]

  don't have Jimmy Cagney going well that [TS]

  was a life well led against get here [TS]

  yeah there's a year of a Padre he'll [TS]

  burn and you know hanging with generally [TS]

  suppose i'm not sure how much I believe [TS]

  that story just because I don't I don't [TS]

  think of ealing studios go we've got to [TS]

  crack the American market boys have [TS]

  changed the ending of the movie I I [TS]

  think they probably uh didn't want to [TS]

  upset the conventions in the mores of [TS]

  the time and so that's that's why they [TS]

  probably have the ending that they do [TS]

  you mean you don't really see people [TS]

  getting away with it until like the pink [TS]

  panther where again to spoil it [TS]

  the heave-ho the hero gets freezing he's [TS]

  a panther in the end the end the sorry [TS]

  it's everybody I was always disappointed [TS]

  that he wasn't so the cats out of the [TS]

  bag [TS]

  oh and David Niven gets away with it you [TS]

  know but that you know I can't remember [TS]

  if anyone gets away with it before him [TS]

  that David get David gets away with it [TS]

  but there isn't any in any of this [TS]

  equals right so often when they got away [TS]

  when you get away with scams and cons it [TS]

  was because you were taking someone who [TS]

  deserves to get taken right so what's [TS]

  interesting about the Lavender Hill mob [TS]

  the way I look at it is it they don't [TS]

  get away with it but you are made to [TS]

  sympathize with them and like Alec [TS]

  Guinness there's that scene where they [TS]

  try to promote him so he's literally [TS]

  like he has to do the job on on that [TS]

  friday because that he's gonna get it [TS]

  they promoted him to a different job [TS]

  finally after 19 after 19 years of this [TS]

  awful menial job and he's gonna get an [TS]

  extra like six shillings a week or [TS]

  something [TS]

  15 showing 15 shillings a week yeah but [TS]

  it's really i mean for me to several [TS]

  thousand dollars in today's money it's [TS]

  not it's like eight cents [TS]

  I'm oh I don't know what Sheila is [TS]

  converted into but I just I got the [TS]

  sense from that it's like okay what [TS]

  you've done is you've taken away the job [TS]

  he actually was good at and you've given [TS]

  him almost no extra money to do this [TS]

  other job [TS]

  no wonder he wants to steal your gold so [TS]

  I was immediately sympathetic Alec [TS]

  Guinness because I felt like you know [TS]

  this is a terrible job and they don't [TS]

  pay him well and he of course you do you [TS]

  should always the guys who handled the [TS]

  gold pay them well that's what I say [TS]

  that might be a comedy there so there's [TS]

  a quiet yearning to the to the Alec [TS]

  Guinness character about a fellow who [TS]

  who knows that this is the the best he's [TS]

  going to get in life but [TS]

  a yet tries to reach for more yes [TS]

  they're not very modeling about it but [TS]

  it's it's a very very well-constructed [TS]

  character now he's very lucky to have [TS]

  that guy move into his his his building [TS]

  who who just happens to be involved in [TS]

  the melting down of gold that the very [TS]

  fundamental he's going to be promoted at [TS]

  last [TS]

  well that works out let's have it that's [TS]

  kind of the way evening studios comedies [TS]

  work right the certain amount of [TS]

  coincidence and contrivance but the end [TS]

  result still is is pretty delightful [TS]

  what I love about the movie and and I [TS]

  think one of the reasons why I picked it [TS]

  as I I think it's just a superbly [TS]

  plotted because within 15 minutes [TS]

  they've outlined the entire caper this [TS]

  is how we're going to rob the money [TS]

  within 30 minutes they're pulling off [TS]

  the caper and and pulling it off [TS]

  not really according to the elaborate [TS]

  plan that they hatched out and then it's [TS]

  just it [TS]

  there's really not a wasted seen it [TS]

  there's really not a scene where they [TS]

  have to go back and explain now remember [TS]

  this is the caper we're doing that even [TS]

  when they bring in the the two other [TS]

  hoodlums into their into their little [TS]

  gang they the the script is written in [TS]

  such a way that you don't have a double [TS]

  x position although it does all fall [TS]

  down on kind of a a ridiculous [TS]

  contrivance which is that a Frenchwoman [TS]

  can't tell the difference between an R [TS]

  and yeah well for me that the the movie [TS]

  sort of I i enjoy it but it sort of goes [TS]

  off the rails once they once they leave [TS]

  France [TS]

  yeah well it does it does get a little [TS]

  bit commit because then you've got the [TS]

  Eiffel Towers they go home with the [TS]

  schoolchildren yeah and then one of them [TS]

  makes its way to a police exposition [TS]

  where that happens to be a chemist [TS]

  testing gold from the robberies and what [TS]

  that is hilariously ridiculous but it's [TS]

  great no it's great it's fantastic and [TS]

  as a little bit of background what [TS]

  happens is the the Eiffel Tower the the [TS]

  gold Eiffel Towers are shipped to France [TS]

  and they're supposed to sit in the [TS]

  warehouse but someone can't tell the [TS]

  difference between the are in the Edit [TS]

  and side and yes start selling the [TS]

  myself because he's an Englishman would [TS]

  have said are as I she might have picked [TS]

  it up as an a as opposed to an R [TS]

  and they they start selling the gold [TS]

  Eiffel Towers to these English [TS]

  schoolgirls myself ill it's just you [TS]

  know don't get the French involved [TS]

  yeah that's the blessing of this movie [TS]

  is trust I don't trust the French with [TS]

  anything of value when I did appreciate [TS]

  about that whole bit though was that [TS]

  we've been presented the allocated [TS]

  character who has a happy what I would [TS]

  call a periodic speech impediment [TS]

  occasionally you know his arse kind of [TS]

  come and go yes [TS]

  not really super consistent with whether [TS]

  he says them or not but in a modern [TS]

  movie that with the plot would hinge on [TS]

  that in some very much so and in this [TS]

  movie it's just there may need it just [TS]

  happens to have a speech impediment [TS]

  there's really no purpose of it there's [TS]

  no point at all and in the end where a [TS]

  modern movie would have had you know the [TS]

  problem with the French lady hinge on [TS]

  his speech impediment it turns out to be [TS]

  the other guy who's days and ours get [TS]

  confused [TS]

  it has nothing to do with with with the [TS]

  Guinness characters speech impediment at [TS]

  all what I really love about Dennis in [TS]

  this movie is the brief moments you get [TS]

  of him really relishing this role [TS]

  there's that scene where is like they're [TS]

  well you're the boss and he's like yes [TS]

  yes I am and you you get a little bit of [TS]

  that too there's a scene where he tells [TS]

  them to leave some of the gold in the [TS]

  truck that they robbed and they're kind [TS]

  of like we're talking about there's like [TS]

  75,000 pounds there you know we can make [TS]

  all this money and he says no just leave [TS]

  it and is that there's a certain amount [TS]

  of you you know why steal with his voice [TS]

  at that point which is interesting for [TS]

  character who is so mild-mannered but [TS]

  like you get the feeling again if this [TS]

  was a modern movie that it would turn [TS]

  into sort of more his descent into [TS]

  hardened criminal right it never goes [TS]

  that way but like there you could you [TS]

  can kind of see how that might develop [TS]

  this isn't the Lavender Hill mob is [TS]

  breaking bad right [TS]

  right now I've got not houses just [TS]

  relishing not being the lowest man on [TS]

  the totem pole for ya right right [TS]

  exactly but it's a it's getting such a [TS]

  great job of balancing those two aspects [TS]

  of that character well as Jason pointed [TS]

  out earlier that that Howard Guinness is [TS]

  a funny guy [TS]

  I'm at and this would be as good a time [TS]

  to discuss that as any i think you know [TS]

  most audiences [TS]

  people our age are gonna be easy but [TS]

  there's obi-wan Kenobi what are you [TS]

  doing here or if you're a have a wider [TS]

  film vocabulary you know I'm from bridge [TS]

  on the river choir you you know I'm from [TS]

  from lawrence of arabia but he really if [TS]

  you dig deep into his filmography he [TS]

  does a lot of really great comic work [TS]

  besides uh this movie he'd kind hearts [TS]

  and coronets where he played in which [TS]

  she plays like that doesn't he play [TS]

  right doesn't get the roles including a [TS]

  lady and was a hideous looking lady [TS]

  I i just want to stipulate that right [TS]

  now he's out he was in the original [TS]

  Ladykillers he was a white suit he [TS]

  another great healing studios comedy is [TS]

  our man in Havana where again plays kind [TS]

  of a wormy guy who who rises above his [TS]

  station and if you if you get a chance [TS]

  if you if you reject films that are in [TS]

  black-and-white try and rent neil [TS]

  simon's murder by death because in that [TS]

  movie he's a he's the butler he's [TS]

  terrific and that he's the blind Butler [TS]

  Benson mama [TS]

  so after I get back from France I it's a [TS]

  it's a a different movie which is not to [TS]

  say it isn't wacky it's actually in some [TS]

  ways i found that the most memorable [TS]

  part of the movie is that there is this [TS]

  ridiculous they go to the school to try [TS]

  and bribe ER i guess just exchanged the [TS]

  Eiffel Towers for the let Eiffel Towers [TS]

  but then there's the one girl who [TS]

  refuses to give it to them because you [TS]

  drive is over which the teacher doesn't [TS]

  bad and I know [TS]

  ok these men came all the way from [TS]

  France to exchange your your misc at [TS]

  your perfectly going to give them five [TS]

  shillings for for heat transfer it's [TS]

  it's it's certainly normal but what but [TS]

  she takes the girl takes the the the [TS]

  gold statue to the to the worst place [TS]

  possible if you're a robber which is [TS]

  like the police expo which they met they [TS]

  apparently have and there's a [TS]

  demonstration thereof by a scientist who [TS]

  can prove that things are gold just boy [TS]

  that's bad luck and there's a hole at [TS]

  the police expo there's this whole wacky [TS]

  when they essentially just decide to [TS]

  grab the the statue and run because [TS]

  they're going to be found out and then [TS]

  there [TS]

  they have this crazy chase through the [TS]

  police expo and then there's a whole [TS]

  crazy car chase which involves them [TS]

  stealing a police car and pretending to [TS]

  end radioing in bad information to the [TS]

  police cars and it's uh it's there's [TS]

  lots of action and it's funny and it's [TS]

  weird and I I enjoyed that part a lot [TS]

  it's a bit too madcap for my taste [TS]

  actually like yeah like I said I for me [TS]

  the high point of the movie ends when [TS]

  they're trying to get back from France [TS]

  and they there's this whole bit of [TS]

  business where they're trying to get on [TS]

  the boat to in Calais and I know you've [TS]

  gotta go through customs and no you've [TS]

  gotta buy the tickets and and and both [TS]

  Alec Guinness and Stanley Holloway or [TS]

  are freaking out and it's that's a very [TS]

  funny bit on in a very nice bit of [TS]

  controlled madness [TS]

  whereas I think once they have the the [TS]

  car chase scene that gets a little bit [TS]

  too Benny Hill for my taste the way that [TS]

  he eventually actually gets away is [TS]

  actually quite understated right because [TS]

  he goes into the tube and they follow [TS]

  him in and he comes out again and then [TS]

  he goes back around goes into very [TS]

  calmly goes in again and that's how we [TS]

  eventually get away which I thought was [TS]

  very very clever and it's a slight [TS]

  little commentary on society because [TS]

  it's oh he's able to blend in because [TS]

  he's a wormy guy and we're all were all [TS]

  wormy guys I like the confusion in the [TS]

  cars though there's a nice moment where [TS]

  they're like car for car for and they're [TS]

  like a hot car for is a fake [TS]

  he's like you said you said we were car [TS]

  for your car for work are three and and [TS]

  it's so he's smart he he throws them [TS]

  he's very devious and he throws them off [TS]

  the scent plus the cops are kind of them [TS]

  i'm not going to say they're like Dukes [TS]

  of Hazzard level companies don't have [TS]

  what they call keystone cops in England [TS]

  they like breckenridge Bobby's one of [TS]

  the inspectors i believe is Christopher [TS]

  Hewett yes these years you may recognize [TS]

  from such TV shows as mr. Belvedere and [TS]

  ghost of mr. Belvedere one of the [TS]

  chemist at the exhibition is apparently [TS]

  robert sean is yes roll [TS]

  yes exactly lot a lot a lot of hey you [TS]

  are in this the in the sun for you were [TS]

  big apparently Alec Guinness would get [TS]

  very angry if you would come [TS]

  Tim and try to talk about Star Wars yeah [TS]

  oh yeah well you can you blame him with [TS]

  this now I care to admit that was one [TS]

  booth me out of 50 tool that I made [TS]

  something else that struck me about this [TS]

  movie and just the difference between a [TS]

  caper film in 1951 and what you would [TS]

  see today was just how relatively [TS]

  simplistic it was in the highest frankly [TS]

  there's not that much to it [TS]

  yeah there no lasers and mirrors and [TS]

  video cameras to duplicate and all of [TS]

  those things we've seen a million times [TS]

  no one is switching thumb prints no one [TS]

  is pulling off of pulling off a mask [TS]

  pretending to be someone else right I'll [TS]

  be in the truck and we're a modern movie [TS]

  would have taken you know they would [TS]

  have piled a minor air onto a [TS]

  misunderstanding and it would have [TS]

  dragged it out for the rest of the film [TS]

  sort of building and building that this [TS]

  house just mean there there are some [TS]

  minor issues with the highest but it [TS]

  kind of goes off without too big of a [TS]

  hitch [TS]

  I guess audiences of the fifties could [TS]

  only take so much tension but while they [TS]

  set you up to think it's gonna go wrong [TS]

  right when that you when he accidentally [TS]

  when Stanley accidentally steals the [TS]

  painting and walks away with the [TS]

  painting and now the police are all over [TS]

  there and he's meant to be causing a [TS]

  distraction which he does anyways by [TS]

  having virtue of you know see me to have [TS]

  still want to paint it and they're [TS]

  accomplices are supposed to rough up [TS]

  Alec Guinness to make it look like he's [TS]

  been robbed but they they panic and flee [TS]

  the scene so Alec Guinness Esther rough [TS]

  himself up which is a great bit of [TS]

  physical comedy which works so well the [TS]

  police think he's a hero right when the [TS]

  the idea that movies to their more [TS]

  complicated is partly because we have [TS]

  this template right it no one's ever [TS]

  going to rob our gold truck again [TS]

  well they they hadn't seen the same [TS]

  story over and over and over again [TS]

  whereas a you know by now we've got 60 [TS]

  70 years of the same movie ideas so they [TS]

  have to jack it up like what more can we [TS]

  do what can we pile on to surprise you [TS]

  just just a few things have changed in [TS]

  the last 60 years that you know it's [TS]

  funny that the the twist at the end that [TS]

  i actually didn't pick up on until maybe [TS]

  just a few seconds before it actually [TS]

  went off i realize the reason I didn't [TS]

  pick up on that was because i was [TS]

  expecting that cliche and [TS]

  not to have existed in 1951 yeah so I [TS]

  was sort of surprised when it actually [TS]

  turned out i mean i'm sure it wasn't a [TS]

  cliché at the time it was probably [TS]

  exactly first instances of it but I [TS]

  thought it was surely before that had [TS]

  come to be so it was kind of a bit of a [TS]

  surprise one that that's I was actually [TS]

  gonna talk about that with the the next [TS]

  film 2 i'll wait wait i do need to say [TS]

  this about the Lavender Hill mob sure [TS]

  you look swell in a shroud is probably [TS]

  the greatest title for a book ever or a [TS]

  radio drama episode for that matter [TS]

  that's the book that Alec Guinness is [TS]

  reading to the little lady [TS]

  i love when the cops and interrogate her [TS]

  with her she's asking all these like [TS]

  questions in this hard-boiled crime [TS]

  slaying the little old lady who lives in [TS]

  the in the boardinghouse on lavender [TS]

  hill is one of the unsung heroes of that [TS]

  movie they really should have built up a [TS]

  role board MTG the owner who calls them [TS]

  naughty men is also quite wonderful she [TS]

  be nominated today I get to be an [TS]

  accomplice oh yeah she'd be the one who [TS]

  got away with all the money at the end [TS]

  seven work if I had somebody who every [TS]

  time I came home drunk from a bar open [TS]

  the door and called me a naughty man [TS]

  oh you watching man different life pad [TS]

  know you naughty naughty men that was a [TS]

  crazy boardinghouse although that was [TS]

  the flaw in his plan to is like if any [TS]

  detective realizes that the guy in who [TS]

  is there at the highest his pals with a [TS]

  guy who melts down metal yeah the chicas [TS]

  I that I've at that moment the jig is up [TS]

  today there's a computer that just goes [TS]

  like being yeah they need to they just [TS]

  find that out [TS]

  yeah but back then it was it was an [TS]

  innocent time it was very different [TS]

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  incomparable for the killing [TS]

  yes is in a slightly different in tone [TS]

  did yeah I was always bringing [TS]

  everything that we've had the the light [TS]

  laughs and and life-affirming comedy of [TS]

  of the Lavender Hill mob let's talk [TS]

  about the killing and open up a vein [TS]

  life is worthless and you will fail [TS]

  that's the message of the killing ladies [TS]

  and gentlemen is it's the last line in [TS]

  the movie what's the difference the [TS]

  difference [TS]

  yeah a little-little dogs are annoying [TS]

  that was what I took oh no ladies it [TS]

  ladies could make another appearance [TS]

  steer clear of the old bat's if you're [TS]

  going to be pulling off a caper is that [TS]

  lesson I take little dogs in english [TS]

  school girls are problems right are [TS]

  impediments to your paper and [TS]

  French and make sure your suitcase locks [TS]

  so i will now recount the plot of the [TS]

  killing it will be very difficult as [TS]

  they use nonlinear storytelling yes this [TS]

  is another technique the crew you know [TS]

  and this was one of a an early an early [TS]

  movie to use nonlinear storytelling and [TS]

  apparently it was not a well-received [TS]

  technique out of the time if I mail back [TS]

  this with some music from the film ok so [TS]

  sterling here dude sterling Hayden is [TS]

  fresh out of prison [TS]

  fresh out of the fresh out of the [TS]

  Graybar hotel but he's not going to let [TS]

  that get him down no he's planning a [TS]

  caper little caper it's uh he's going to [TS]

  Robert a racetrack he's gonna gonna take [TS]

  them of all their money and easy [TS]

  enlisted not croc see points out but [TS]

  just people with a little larceny in [TS]

  them and they all have their reasons for [TS]

  participating there's the there's the [TS]

  Elijah cook character who's got a [TS]

  money-grab and wife and there's a [TS]

  there's a bartender at the racetrack his [TS]

  wife is very sick and he needs the money [TS]

  to to help her get better [TS]

  there's the cop who appears to be in [TS]

  very bad gambling debts he he makes [TS]

  kevin spacey in LA confidential look [TS]

  like McGruff the Crime Dog like Russell [TS]

  Crowe in LA confidential right fair [TS]

  enough so and then there's that the old [TS]

  man who's bankrolling them whoo-hoo I [TS]

  kinda has taken a shine to sterling [TS]

  Hayden hey let's go away together after [TS]

  this yeah yeah we'll go to Vermont and [TS]

  interesting some open up bread and [TS]

  breakfast together let's see how about [TS]

  the list can we talk about the great [TS]

  roles for women in this movie now well [TS]

  yeah well now we're that were done with [TS]

  that [TS]

  so yeah i already mentioned uh Elijah [TS]

  cooks wife who is a gold and grab [TS]

  money-grubbing harlot [TS]

  yep forget yet just a terrible one of [TS]

  the most terrible human beings you will [TS]

  ever use sterling Hayden has a [TS]

  girlfriend and she is just are pretty [TS]

  and she's not very smart [TS]

  wow what if that don't mean I forgot now [TS]

  bad that scene was just in [TS]

  terms of the i believe i've always [TS]

  believed anything that you took me [TS]

  yeah anything I waited for five years [TS]

  while you were in prison because you're [TS]

  such a great guy i think the best way to [TS]

  describe sterling Hayden girlfriend in [TS]

  that movie is present or possibly [TS]

  liquored up I don't yeah well she's very [TS]

  supportive and self-loathing self and [TS]

  apart from the sickly wife that's about [TS]

  it for four ladies Steve mentioned the [TS]

  blaring music I just don't like to cook [TS]

  being in Star Trek they the music in [TS]

  this movie is actually buy one of the [TS]

  two or three small core star trek [TS]

  composers so I had moments where i was [TS]

  waiting for Captain Kirk to begin a [TS]

  fistfight in the middle of the killing [TS]

  because it's basically that same kind of [TS]

  blaring horns kind of music and it's [TS]

  there's a lot of it but I swear is this [TS]

  jockeys were going by in that opening [TS]

  scene I was sure I was gonna see [TS]

  gladiators come thru was going to be [TS]

  worn to come out and interrupt the horse [TS]

  race start playing fizzbin in the middle [TS]

  of the movie and I just would've been [TS]

  great if could fight the giant Russian [TS]

  guy that's arms and all the wrestler [TS]

  yeah so there are two out there are two [TS]

  other people in this in this in this [TS]

  caper their ancillary characters one is [TS]

  HS loving wrestler because doctors in [TS]

  the world who is commissioned to [TS]

  basically start a fight to provide the [TS]

  distraction source so sterling Hayden [TS]

  can get in the unauthorized area and and [TS]

  steal the money and he's like real cop [TS]

  senior yeah it is like and and this guy [TS]

  was a real wrestler and apparently a pal [TS]

  of stanley kubrick's and and he is just [TS]

  great [TS]

  you gotta love the scene where they rip [TS]

  his shirt was clearly designed to be [TS]

  honest like he's wearing another shirt [TS]

  underneath that or happen half right [TS]

  down the back of that the part I love [TS]

  about the fight that he starts is the [TS]

  cops run at him in waves that script is [TS]

  it over with some and yeah driver [TS]

  yeah this WWF match breaks out in the [TS]

  middle of the film let's run at them two [TS]

  at a time instead of all of us at once [TS]

  around him hitting them with trenches [TS]

  let's give a given a chance to beat up [TS]

  on us you know though i would say that [TS]

  that and and the Roddy Piper fight scene [TS]

  at the keith david Roddy Piper fight [TS]

  scene from they live are probably the [TS]

  two best [TS]

  it seems I've ever seen in any film both [TS]

  professional wrestlers I came here to [TS]

  kick ass and chew bubblegum and help [TS]

  sterling hating the highest i've just [TS]

  got that third thing but you couldn't [TS]

  understand what i said as i did and and [TS]

  and then you've got the teeth gritting [TS]

  sharpshooter [TS]

  yeah with a with a guy with a rifle the [TS]

  other it the other way that they're [TS]

  distracting all the cops is that they're [TS]

  going to shoot a horse in the middle of [TS]

  a race which seems excessive [TS]

  is there a reason that they that they [TS]

  target the one horse but he's gonna be [TS]

  that they explain it briefly he's the [TS]

  front-runner and if you shoot the [TS]

  front-runner than other horses might [TS]

  collapse into them and create more of a [TS]

  ruckus and a scene and it creates more [TS]

  of an alibi because there are more [TS]

  potential reasons why somebody might [TS]

  want to take down the horse is running [TS]

  well then one that sucks right now is [TS]

  actually a crowd to and just get [TS]

  everybody's attention [TS]

  yeah he insults the wrong guy and does [TS]

  not get away [TS]

  no one really gets away in this movie it [TS]

  all in torah plano but the the not to [TS]

  get out of line but this is a nonlinear [TS]

  narrative so what the hell yeah at 439 [TS]

  johnny was sitting by the racetrack oh [TS]

  that narrator so there isn't there is an [TS]

  area where the hell he so he shoots the [TS]

  the horse and like within 10 seconds [TS]

  there's a cop standing there telling him [TS]

  to freeze where the heck did the cop [TS]

  come from also that cop shoots and [TS]

  pretty fast [TS]

  really fat yeah well yeah that was bad [TS]

  I understand that's really bad luck of [TS]

  it yeah yeah we also ran over a [TS]

  horseshoe Jason is all about bad luck [TS]

  well that was bad luck you know in the [TS]

  fifties lots of car thieves wander the [TS]

  track and yeah shakedown pencils or [TS]

  shoot horses all right before we [TS]

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  incomparable if so then that the [TS]

  narrator Phil you were mentioning that [TS]

  this wasn't well-received because they [TS]

  definitely have the interlocking [TS]

  timelines in fact there are that we [TS]

  visit the bar at the at the racetrack [TS]

  right the highest actually unfolds they [TS]

  they keep rolling back to different [TS]

  basically they tell it from the [TS]

  perspective of everyone who is [TS]

  participating in this in this house so [TS]

  you keep seeing the same thing over and [TS]

  over again and I kind of liked that bit [TS]

  but you know at the time movies where [TS]

  that's done well and this one there [TS]

  really isn't that much point [TS]

  ya know i acting anything from the other [TS]

  guy's perspective of the same scene [TS]

  again should have just as well be Linda [TS]

  well yeah it builds tension a little bit [TS]

  i mean i don't know I appreciate you do [TS]

  I see what he was going for my best [TS]

  guess is that he sort of assumed that [TS]

  people wouldn't get it if he was a [TS]

  little more ambitious weird and in fact [TS]

  i think the variety review at the time [TS]

  called that the style somewhat confusing [TS]

  you know it's really not that confusing [TS]

  it's not yet i thought the narrator made [TS]

  it more confusing because well as the [TS]

  narrator was was added basically because [TS]

  of this is very confusing added narrator [TS]

  and the rumor is stanley kubrick so [TS]

  hated the narration that he made the [TS]

  narration deliberately confusing I again [TS]

  this could be apocryphal but but who [TS]

  knows [TS]

  four days earlier the narrator so [TS]

  precise that it's like yes at if four [TS]

  days earlier than three minutes earlier [TS]

  then two minutes later it's just it's so [TS]

  precisely these keeps shifting around 20 [TS]

  years later happen shadow it does have [TS]

  the feel of someone who is very [TS]

  resentful that he had to have a narrator [TS]

  i will i will say that yeah yeah there [TS]

  are some great lines in this film it is [TS]

  and what are your headlines that the [TS]

  closing line of and what's the [TS]

  difference is fantastic [TS]

  whatever-the-hell maurices saying is all [TS]

  pretty good and then the parent gets a [TS]

  good line to when when George goes down [TS]

  he actually you can hear the parrot sort [TS]

  of say it fair ain't fair [TS]

  yeah that the the dialogue was done by [TS]

  jim thompson the hard-boiled crime [TS]

  writer [TS]

  I've got you an author of The Grifters [TS]

  and after dark my sweet and things that [TS]

  get adapted into other really good [TS]

  turkmen piece right because this is [TS]

  basically it's a film noir this this [TS]

  movie in a way yeah [TS]

  yes I didn't realize how to war it was [TS]

  that would tell the Shakespeare like [TS]

  ending which I did not see coming at all [TS]

  given the rest of the film [TS]

  alright so at the end I what we get set [TS]

  up a long time at the beginning of the [TS]

  movie it gets set up and then I forgot [TS]

  about it I I was like all right Elijah [TS]

  questions goonies money-grubbing [TS]

  money-grubbing whore of a wife has a has [TS]

  a little action of a friend who is a [TS]

  thug who is going to steal the stolen [TS]

  money and double cross or I guess he's [TS]

  not in it so it's not double-cross he's [TS]

  gonna he's gonna rob the robbers right [TS]

  and so he does he walks in and they're [TS]

  still waiting because the guy's been [TS]

  delayed their they're waiting for for [TS]

  the money to get there [TS]

  yes and Elijah cook Jr basically he's [TS]

  got a gun set up by his money-grubbing [TS]

  whore of a wife to think that sterling [TS]

  teen and raped her hitting on her yeah [TS]

  so very least so he snaps and he's got a [TS]

  gun prepared to shoot sterling hate [TS]

  right so he shoots a few times and [TS]

  picked up several several of the bullets [TS]

  passed through multiple people multiple [TS]

  times and kill them because it seemed [TS]

  like he he only shot you know five or [TS]

  six times and yet everybody [TS]

  extremely dead everybody's realize that [TS]

  the reason that he was bleeding and shot [TS]

  up was because there was one shotgun [TS]

  blast that was gotten off by the by the [TS]

  lover i initially thought he actually [TS]

  shot himself a few times the lever also [TS]

  has a has a little accomplice to Andy [TS]

  fires yeah there's a lot of shooting I [TS]

  believe several several gaffers died [TS]

  during that scene but everybody's dead [TS]

  except for 11 don't already been killed [TS]

  by the music and Elijah cooks eyes are [TS]

  wide and he's like and he's got he's got [TS]

  blood all over him and he's pleased yeah [TS]

  he gets hit by some straight fire he [TS]

  doesn't die immediately that was when [TS]

  the movie turned awesome to me because I [TS]

  really did not see that coming [TS]

  he stumbles out into sterling Aidan's [TS]

  car and sterling Hayden of course avoids [TS]

  all of this because he got stuck in [TS]

  traffic [TS]

  yeah this is la la my way yeah but then [TS]

  he's undone by the ability like my [TS]

  carry-on luggage like petty bureaucrats [TS]

  and a well-lit that's what so LAX [TS]

  so what we'll get we'll get to the the [TS]

  problems of the airline industry in the [TS]

  know if only i had paid attention to the [TS]

  TSA guidelines sign my suitcase but so [TS]

  Elijah cook goes back to his money [TS]

  grubbing wife she's awful and and she's [TS]

  packing and she's saying as he walks in [TS]

  Oh boyfriend who double-crossed those [TS]

  guys let's go away and then she turned [TS]

  you into double-crossing my husband yet [TS]

  oh crap oh no that anyone was awake and [TS]

  over her suitcases like I'm just taking [TS]

  some stuff to the cleaner is you know [TS]

  interesting she couldn't handle I shook [TS]

  it looks like he's gone blind [TS]

  he's like literally acting like he's [TS]

  blind he's like his eyes are wide and [TS]

  he's looking around and he and he shoots [TS]

  her to that is the most marvelously shot [TS]

  scene 2 when he's sort of draped over [TS]

  the birdcage and shot from sort of down [TS]

  into the left and the shadows are just a [TS]

  really highlight his face there it's a [TS]

  gorgeous see and i think it's it's [TS]

  probably the best seat in the film for [TS]

  being he asked her one last time for [TS]

  some help to call the colony ambulance [TS]

  or something and she's like I do it [TS]

  yourself [TS]

  all right then that answers my question [TS]

  that were having some fun with the the [TS]

  plotting and whatnot but it's a beauty [TS]

  free shot movie and and just great use [TS]

  of shadow great use of lighting that [TS]

  many of times you see the characters [TS]

  throughout the throughout the movie [TS]

  behind bars of some sort and it's yes [TS]

  it's really a you can really see Stanley [TS]

  Kubrick sprinkling some Cooper dust on [TS]

  it and this was the just the right [TS]

  amount [TS]

  yeah where he kind of made his bones and [TS]

  from here he made the paths of glory and [TS]

  then three years later he did spartacus [TS]

  and and so this was kind of where he you [TS]

  know broke out of the cocoon and became [TS]

  a a beautiful butterfly who made [TS]

  haunting movies when his is a idea at [TS]

  the time was to make good movies cheap [TS]

  and you know I said just because it's [TS]

  cheaply made doesn't mean it can't be [TS]

  good right and doesn't mean i can still [TS]

  lose money apparently though [TS]

  roger corman thought the same thing [TS]

  except for the good part in the in the [TS]

  chatroom the good doctor doctor drinking [TS]

  points out something that I noticed too [TS]

  weak always said that tracking shot of [TS]

  sterling Hayden walking through the room [TS]

  it's just you know it's this long [TS]

  sliding tracking shot and that's the one [TS]

  I noticed I was like haha i think this [TS]

  director might make something of himself [TS]

  well the other thing that's nice about [TS]

  that is it's not it's not just utterly [TS]

  pointless because it sets up the layout [TS]

  of the room for oh yeah when the [TS]

  conflict happens it is showing enough [TS]

  that i'm glad that i'm also thinking [TS]

  this is a director who wants to point [TS]

  out that he is capable of is doing good [TS]

  work that is showy and and and [TS]

  interesting like this but it's good it's [TS]

  it's very good [TS]

  yeah the decorator really sabotage this [TS]

  movie for me that was that's that i kept [TS]

  getting back bay back to that narrator [TS]

  who i think i'm not sure who the [TS]

  narrator is but he sounds like one of [TS]

  those guys who is probably a an android [TS]

  or stora or a world consciousness [TS]

  computer or something on Star Trek he's [TS]

  got that human airway magneti yeah well [TS]

  yeah the dragnet was exactly what I [TS]

  thought but I think the thing that had [TS]

  that it helped for me was the fact that [TS]

  it's set sort of a dragnet feel to the [TS]

  thing and then when the whole the [TS]

  slaughter occur uh-huh i was i was [TS]

  utterly unprepared for that because i [TS]

  had been [TS]

  and prepared for more of a Joe Friday [TS]

  kind of a kind of an ending in there are [TS]

  no heroes in this movie not a one even [TS]

  more than dragnet it's a lot like it's a [TS]

  lot like The Naked City both the movie [TS]

  and then the TV series which is [TS]

  different from the film but they both [TS]

  have that kind of narration it's a [TS]

  little more artful indeed city but uh [TS]

  it's very much and then two hours [TS]

  earlier and that kind of thing [TS]

  it's much more and it focuses more on [TS]

  the people of the story as opposed to [TS]

  the cops who are supposedly the heroes [TS]

  of the show so it's a widow it almost [TS]

  struck me like a spoof of the Naked City [TS]

  can do narration III question for you [TS]

  guys which is what what in your [TS]

  impression is the title reference to [TS]

  making immediately making everything [TS]

  they're gonna make a killing and then [TS]

  people get killed [TS]

  see it's upon it is apparent that but I [TS]

  don't know I there are other things in [TS]

  there that I I think you could [TS]

  distribute it i mean there is obviously [TS]

  as we just talked about the blood bath [TS]

  scene could follow that I thought the [TS]

  translation of the horse killing works [TS]

  yeah since that sort of like the only [TS]

  real you know it planned murder if you [TS]

  can call it matters not even murder it's [TS]

  going horse I don't know what it is in [TS]

  the end is killing the horse actually [TS]

  serve much purpose that that is the [TS]

  thing with that watching this movie [TS]

  again I thought man that the killing the [TS]

  horse seems just gratuitous really [TS]

  unnecessary [TS]

  yeah they could have distracted people [TS]

  he could have driven his little car onto [TS]

  the racetrack and cause a distraction a [TS]

  couple years ago at the Preakness Stakes [TS]

  in in Maryland some there's a drunk guy [TS]

  ran onto the track that could it worked [TS]

  sure you don't have to shoot horses they [TS]

  should've sent the Russian guided to run [TS]

  fast rap wrestled the horse race or [TS]

  fourth this invention that way they [TS]

  could save $5,000 well I guess there are [TS]

  a lot of sort of small things that go [TS]

  wrong with the with the highest right i [TS]

  mean the the the elder gentlemen shows [TS]

  up drunk and you keep expecting [TS]

  something horrible to have right here [TS]

  never be polite to a parking attendant I [TS]

  think this is just another one of those [TS]

  things where you've been you've been set [TS]

  up to believe that the horse is going to [TS]

  go down and take out [TS]

  the entire field and then he doesn't [TS]

  anything maybe that's gonna screw things [TS]

  up by killing the front-runner suddenly [TS]

  all the longshots have a chance [TS]

  yeah and whoever wins the race that's [TS]

  gonna cause a rush of people on onto the [TS]

  the the betting windows yeah that's more [TS]

  can use was chaos [TS]

  yeah in the in the building where there [TS]

  they've already got the fight and he's [TS]

  already you know sterling Hayden goes up [TS]

  there with a mask and and holds them up [TS]

  at at at gunpoint [TS]

  there's also we didn't even mention [TS]

  there's like the guitar case and there's [TS]

  the flower box and they've got rifles in [TS]

  them and they they have exchanged the [TS]

  mall at this sort of CD like trailer [TS]

  motel place that's run by a very [TS]

  friendly Italian man Joe piano sophiana [TS]

  speaking of scenes that don't really [TS]

  make any sense when when sterling Hayden [TS]

  goes back to collect the money he goes [TS]

  to the wrong like bungalow briefly [TS]

  there's like a secondary walks up and [TS]

  some guys like what and it'll go wrong [TS]

  as great as it scares the hell outta you [TS]

  think your hands that's meant to build [TS]

  tension method yeah jarring and oh god [TS]

  what now [TS]

  oh ok and then he goes into his room and [TS]

  the dramatic in entering the hotel [TS]

  roughing up kicks it scares the hell [TS]

  Eddie all over there over there it's [TS]

  just the money [TS]

  don't dude so okay so they throw that [TS]

  they have this clever thing we put they [TS]

  put all the money in the duffel bag and [TS]

  that's a great scene because it goes on [TS]

  you know i got so tense and watching [TS]

  that scene because you're thinking you [TS]

  knowing [TS]

  times ticking time is ticking gotta go [TS]

  to gotta go hurry up hurry up and he [TS]

  makes you watch this clerk incompetently [TS]

  stuff loose cash into a bag for me it [TS]

  seems like four minutes very [TS]

  matter-of-factly is just very slowly [TS]

  stuffing it and finally gotten close up [TS]

  that's enough so i really like that and [TS]

  then they throw the bag out the window [TS]

  and they retrieve the bag later in this [TS]

  misdirection and that's great but the [TS]

  thing that gets me as he gets it he gets [TS]

  a suitcase because they know that it was [TS]

  in a duffel bag so i guess he wants to [TS]

  switch it for a suitcase so he can take [TS]

  it on the flight and all that you get [TS]

  the big suitcase and the thing that [TS]

  killed me is he's got a perfectly [TS]

  contain duffel [TS]

  bag full of money so he drives out into [TS]

  the countryside behind some trees gets [TS]

  out and empties all the money out of the [TS]

  duffel bag it's blowing around and tries [TS]

  to stuff it in and like sit on the [TS]

  suitcase like why don't you just put the [TS]

  duffel bag in the suitcase then uw-w [TS]

  Baghdad and the answer is revealed [TS]

  several minutes later when it turns out [TS]

  that your Airlines you know we think the [TS]

  airlines are bad now but airlines didn't [TS]

  care about you even in the fifties they [TS]

  won't let you check your carry-on bag [TS]

  take your carry-on bag on the plane you [TS]

  gotta check it he couldn't fit that [TS]

  underneath the seat and then a lady has [TS]

  a dog and it runs out onto the tarmac [TS]

  and all of a sudden all of your stolen [TS]

  money is blown away by giant turbojet [TS]

  engine turbo prop engines yeah I i had [TS]

  two thoughts as I was watching that [TS]

  scene the fruit the first thought was [TS]

  that this ending wouldn't have work [TS]

  today because with all the security I or [TS]

  even your theory I'm I all today I got [TS]

  to take the money with me on the [TS]

  carry-on bag they're still going to [TS]

  check it so yeah they're gonna say oh [TS]

  yeah that's full of money that's what [TS]

  allowed with a poodle with never been [TS]

  let out onto the tarmac you know well it [TS]

  did that and am I ever thought was a boy [TS]

  american airlines i'm not sure why they [TS]

  participated in this to show that [TS]

  they're sticklers for policy we here at [TS]

  American Airlines disapprove of track [TS]

  heists that one manager really takes a [TS]

  lot of delight in like telling him he's [TS]

  gonna bump him off the flight i'll give [TS]

  you your money back [TS]

  we here at American Airlines really want [TS]

  to follow the rules we're not the kind [TS]

  of people who would rob a track and want [TS]

  to emphasize that if you refuse to [TS]

  follow the rules will happily refund [TS]

  your money [TS]

  I i wonder if like american airlines [TS]

  agreed to be in that movie that we come [TS]

  across really reasonable in that movie [TS]

  was gonna sit there and go wow that's [TS]

  the airline I want to fly because they [TS]

  don't work nonsense [TS]

  no no shenanigans here that's the air [TS]

  line of snitches I'm not taking them is [TS]

  not cases stop it with the fifties under [TS]

  my seat the head here at TWA will never [TS]

  rat you out to the cops [TS]

  you will get away scot-free TWA the [TS]

  airline for crooks you've got a bat you [TS]

  got a sack full of loose cash and what [TS]

  do you do do you keep it in the sack [TS]

  or do you say sort of like you're going [TS]

  to be in one of those a little plaques [TS]

  against glass booths where you have to [TS]

  catch all the money in five minutes or [TS]

  whatever at the State Fair do you say oh [TS]

  this is great i'm outside there's a [TS]

  breeze blowing I'm just gonna pull over [TS]

  to the side of the road and and try to [TS]

  stuff it in this suitcase it's just [TS]

  sterling hate not the smartest move [TS]

  that's what i'm saying i would just keep [TS]

  driving yeah you too smart not too [TS]

  pretty [TS]

  do you know why fly just drive I know I [TS]

  know your girl who's not too bright and [TS]

  not too pretty is waiting for you back [TS]

  home but just just drive and then the [TS]

  old man could have come with them on the [TS]

  trip if they had driven the old man yes [TS]

  it could have been a lovely time that is [TS]

  a strange scene III hate to keep our [TS]

  people yeah but there's a scene where [TS]

  that he says to the old man who's been [TS]

  so kind of well I guess we'll the capers [TS]

  about to come to an end and will not see [TS]

  each other hey you could take me with [TS]

  you don't get married mary marriage is [TS]

  for suckers [TS]

  nothing better than two guys hanging out [TS]

  with each other [TS]

  yeah well as is he actually is he [TS]

  actually expressing an attraction there [TS]

  in 1956 is not is I weird its policy eat [TS]

  it every way to set up your the son I [TS]

  never had but its its kind of weirdly [TS]

  put well and then he said you know you [TS]

  you don't want to marry the wrong person [TS]

  here that I don't know it seems a little [TS]

  forward thinking for 1956 and that's why [TS]

  it took me by surprise in a movie today [TS]

  I would absolutely say that's what it [TS]

  was about but it's plausible in the in [TS]

  the North books of the fifties and it [TS]

  explains why he's he's drunk at the [TS]

  track later too because he's been [TS]

  spurned yeah right and and it's it's the [TS]

  kind of thing you couldn't you couldn't [TS]

  say outright in a film back then but you [TS]

  could you could hint at it in the book [TS]

  right [TS]

  and considering jim thompson's like [TS]

  plausible and I just saw North by [TS]

  Northwest also from the fifties and that [TS]

  of course has martin landau professing [TS]

  his undying love I mean any loyalty [TS]

  loyalty [TS]

  yes that's what it is for calling my [TS]

  woman's intuition yeah [TS]

  oh my god so yeah it's there it's a [TS]

  subtext made that one for another time [TS]

  that's great yeah [TS]

  yes so I guess we should we should sum [TS]

  this up I [TS]

  somebody mentioned earlier is is I do [TS]

  think it's interesting that both these [TS]

  moves the they do have essentially the [TS]

  same ending which is crime doesn't pay [TS]

  friends and you know and share the fact [TS]

  another thing that I thought was [TS]

  interesting is that in both of these [TS]

  films these are honorable thieves you [TS]

  know you don't [TS]

  nobody's out to backstab the others like [TS]

  something within the group [TS]

  yeah he was eating a different he's ok [TS]

  he's a dirty thief he's a bit i love [TS]

  that you gotta love that scene in [TS]

  Lavender Hill mob [TS]

  Lavender Hill mob [TS]

  where the the guys are like now we can't [TS]

  really go to Paris with you but we trust [TS]

  you you're the straightest guys we know [TS]

  you know like that to me is such a but [TS]

  it's such a counterintuitive hilarious [TS]

  scene where they're like yeah but we're [TS]

  sure you would come back and give us our [TS]

  share of the money because why wouldn't [TS]

  you [TS]

  whereas in this in the killing certainly [TS]

  Hayden's just like up taking off with [TS]

  the money [TS]

  everyone else is probably dead I'm not [TS]

  gonna check they think that they had [TS]

  agreed to that ahead of time though [TS]

  wasn't as a narrator explains quite [TS]

  clearly you are you suggesting strongly [TS]

  hadn't heard the narration that its [TS]

  earlier 20 minutes ago [TS]

  Elijah cook shot everybody so you should [TS]

  really get a move on [TS]

  crime doesn't pay this is all I'm saying [TS]

  now [TS]

  crime doesn't pay now i think that i [TS]

  think you know we've had some last night [TS]

  fellas that really [TS]

  crime doesn't pay this this is the [TS]

  freeze-frame real laugh for it [TS]

  I i had this caper in mind where I was [TS]

  going to appear as a guest in the [TS]

  podcast is a distraction and then my [TS]

  crew was going to rob the podcast of all [TS]

  its fortunes which is yet but fell short [TS]

  when you realize we have no money [TS]

  exactly there's no money in a podcasting [TS]

  and now word from our sponsor wait I've [TS]

  already had all the sponsors boxes those [TS]

  airline regulations you think are so [TS]

  stupid are there to protect you against [TS]

  petty criminals [TS]

  yeah where would you rank these in the [TS]

  list of great caper movies to the extent [TS]

  that you've seen caper movies I i love [TS]

  the Lavender Hill mob I've seen it many [TS]

  many times I like the killing and have [TS]

  seen it many times but it's really hard [TS]

  to watch now because again because [TS]

  everything has been done so many times [TS]

  but also because it's it's I don't know [TS]

  it's like two inches away from being a [TS]

  mystery science theater kind of movie [TS]

  because everything is Oh Johnny don't do [TS]

  that and everybody is just you know [TS]

  harping on the name Johnny Johnny Jolly [TS]

  what are you doing you know and then you [TS]

  have the narrator and the music [TS]

  you know it's it's sort of like the [TS]

  ultimate almost bad nor movie it's great [TS]

  you know it's got some wonderful stuff [TS]

  but it's just so hard for me to watch [TS]

  now where's the Lavender Hill mob mob is [TS]

  just charming [TS]

  yeah it's you know and I I like that [TS]

  well I I like there's this sort of [TS]

  tradition of shaggy dog ending in canton [TS]

  caper films like Ocean's eleven the [TS]

  original wherever in the money in there [TS]

  any money [TS]

  the one guy dies and they go well we'll [TS]

  get the money out in the coffin and they [TS]

  don't realize that he's going to be [TS]

  cremated and they all kind of walk out [TS]

  of the funeral going and at the end of [TS]

  the movie that's a great ended and you [TS]

  know spoiler hard so yeah I mean I i [TS]

  would put Lavender Hill mob higher up [TS]

  than the killing III and also what I put [TS]

  right with Lavender Hill mob is a fish [TS]

  called wanda which was directed by [TS]

  Charles Creighton who directed Lavender [TS]

  Hill mob that is a great movie that [TS]

  actually put that above left to give up [TS]

  because the plots just a little tighter [TS]

  I'd say the sting if you're if you're [TS]

  looking for the best caper movie [TS]

  probably the sting is the one night with [TS]

  students [TS]

  oh yeah I put that my top five now watch [TS]

  that just just recently just a few [TS]

  months ago again for the like fourth or [TS]

  fifth time and if you're looking for a [TS]

  modern-day caper movie with kind of the [TS]

  life-affirming a howl of the killing [TS]

  I i would go with a house of games which [TS]

  is a oh yeah David Mamet movie from [TS]

  before hehe went right off his nut and [TS]

  it is it is terrific [TS]

  also the Spanish prisoner in Spanish [TS]

  prisoners quite david mamet's made quite [TS]

  a few good ice enjoyed case i was about [TS]

  to say high school fees including but [TS]

  not limited to see if it has one of my [TS]

  favorite lines in it [TS]

  everybody wanted money that's why they [TS]

  call it money yeah i just i love it's [TS]

  the devito just a great great delivery [TS]

  I have a hard time getting into Lavender [TS]

  Hill mob I gotta be honest i'm with you [TS]

  on this one [TS]

  a hard time getting into it and i think [TS]

  that may be why when it turned into a [TS]

  zany romp through the police expo and [TS]

  and and various cop cars running around [TS]

  all that I kind of woke up a little bit [TS]

  but I i was i found the the first part [TS]

  it just it was hard for me to access it [TS]

  just felt a little bit sleepy to me the [TS]

  killing [TS]

  I would paint it I paid attention the [TS]

  entire time i did feel like this was you [TS]

  know I i was watching a noir caper kind [TS]

  of movie and it was hard-boiled and the [TS]

  narrator was very confusing although [TS]

  funny i mean i just started to laugh at [TS]

  all the detail that the Neriah gave and [TS]

  and I and and it was very tense during [TS]

  the actual caper portion I really did [TS]

  feel that tension of the you know come [TS]

  on put the money in the bag but the [TS]

  money in the bag you know don't shoot [TS]

  the horse all of that I don't know the [TS]

  killing I guess I i appreciated although [TS]

  I probably i'm not sure i would revisit [TS]

  it i'm michael i got Elijah cook stuff [TS]

  though I think maybe I liked I think [TS]

  maybe I liked the killing more but i [TS]

  know i'm not sure i would i think i can [TS]

  see that it's maybe not as good a movie [TS]

  is the Lavender Hill mob but i think i'm [TS]

  going to enjoyed it more because parts [TS]

  of it were so over-the-top and kind of [TS]

  almost I don't I don't I don't really [TS]

  know it's like it's like it feels in [TS]

  some ways like oh this is the kind of [TS]

  movie that they made the crime movies [TS]

  that they would make and it's and it's [TS]

  kind of too much of everything it was [TS]

  also a huge influence on Reservoir Dogs [TS]

  yeah i can see that i was going to take [TS]

  and if they get this is work here to [TS]

  Quentin Tarantino stole all of his [TS]

  tricks [TS]

  yeah he said that point blank bill had [TS]

  asked us at one point to consider [TS]

  whether some of these films might bear [TS]

  remake and I i think in this case if [TS]

  they remade The Killing modern audiences [TS]

  would say it was ripping off Tarantino [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  yep yep yeah I don't you think it has do [TS]

  you think the appreciation of some of [TS]

  these things has to do more with you [TS]

  know also your exposure to things of [TS]

  this similar ilk [TS]

  I mean I'm speaking for I love the love [TS]

  Lavender Hill mob and that's because the [TS]

  thing that these two movies have in [TS]

  common for me is actually both of them [TS]

  were shown to me by my dad who is not a [TS]

  aficionado much of you know modern [TS]

  movies but he he really well [TS]

  classic movies especially in war movies [TS]

  and so he introduced me to both of these [TS]

  and they are their distinct in yet [TS]

  similar in some ways but I that's what I [TS]

  associate them with is the movie / my [TS]

  dad says that would be watching and I [TS]

  watched many old movies with him when I [TS]

  was growing up you know a lot of them [TS]

  comedies but you know many of them in [TS]

  later years when I was a teenager and [TS]

  more movies you with the bill were [TS]

  playing at the local movie house and so [TS]

  I i gained a lot of appreciation for [TS]

  them in that way even if at times they [TS]

  felt kind of slow and ponderous [TS]

  especially as I've gotten older i really [TS]

  see all the intricacies in the you know [TS]

  the the construction of them and I i [TS]

  really like both of these movies i do [TS]

  think 11 a whole mob i think is probably [TS]

  the one I prefer just because i really [TS]

  love Alec Guinness but yeah I I'm fan [TS]

  both of them also not only is this [TS]

  surprisingly directed by by the director [TS]

  of a fish called wanda the [TS]

  cinematographer is the cinematographer [TS]

  welcome of raiders of the lost ark and [TS]

  the other three acknowledged Indiana [TS]

  Jones movies as well as you know like [TS]

  the Italian the italian job you know [TS]

  still why do I believe he's a hundred [TS]

  years ago seasons yeah so Phil what if [TS]

  we have are you surprised by our [TS]

  reactions do you find a you-know-what [TS]

  what have we what have you told us what [TS]

  we missed [TS]

  now I I think you you pretty much got I [TS]

  i was i I was thinking actually that the [TS]

  Lavender Hill mob would be a hard sell [TS]

  for today's today's audience because [TS]

  it's not it's not a comedy style [TS]

  currently in vogue it's it's a it's a [TS]

  little relaxed [TS]

  yeah exact that very good yeah that [TS]

  that's a very good adjective to describe [TS]

  it it's it's one of those things where [TS]

  you you would read if you're reading the [TS]

  store and you go oh that's funny isn't [TS]

  it laughing out out loud it's like The [TS]

  Reader's Digest caper film [TS]

  yeah exactly um and rewatching the [TS]

  killing because it's been a few years [TS]

  since I've seen that [TS]

  didn't hold up as well as a as I had [TS]

  remembered and some of the points of how [TS]

  God that that soundtrack and the [TS]

  narrator and just did it [TS]

  I i learned a little bit two fellows and [TS]

  not just a crime doesn't hate I but we [TS]

  did learn that we all we all win yeah [TS]

  well I you'd have to be a fool to miss [TS]

  that lesson that was an important lesson [TS]

  I was kind of hammered home that was not [TS]

  very subtle no crime crime pays just [TS]

  very very very briefly for a year while [TS]

  you're in some cases that's pretty [TS]

  reality this is basically the only one [TS]

  who gets anything out of that the wages [TS]

  of sin are death but the hours are [TS]

  greater frankly a year and audrey [TS]

  hepburn I i would go for it [TS]

  you risk the jail time sure got to think [TS]

  that reasonable answer is one with it in [TS]

  a post-credit sequence a lagina skit has [TS]

  his thugs waiting outside the hotel [TS]

  knocks the British constable unconscious [TS]

  and he flees and who recruited to join [TS]

  the adventure he pleased to tatooine [TS]

  where he become yes i do want to make [TS]

  mention of what i think is probably the [TS]

  best gag line in the film which is a [TS]

  forget who's saying it might be the [TS]

  police think the guys who's caught the [TS]

  painter character and is sort of shaking [TS]

  him down because he thinks he's stolen [TS]

  something from the street vendor right [TS]

  in the the cop yells 999 and the guys [TS]

  responses no no no I thought was pretty [TS]

  good when we recommend these movies to [TS]

  friends and loved ones and webcast [TS]

  listeners who work slowly friends and [TS]

  loved ones I I actually watched the [TS]

  Lavender Hill mob with both of the kids [TS]

  and they they paid attention to the [TS]

  whole thing so I can't wait to show them [TS]

  the killing [TS]

  yeah I think you could show people [TS]

  Lavender Hill mob a a modern audience [TS]

  the Lavender Hill mob and get away with [TS]

  it more reasonably if you have a if it's [TS]

  a friend you know and you know that they [TS]

  can laugh at anything [TS]

  xs and and kind of kooky stuff i think [TS]

  the killing might work because again [TS]

  that narrator is [TS]

  really hilarious especially in his way [TS]

  but we I think if i had to pick one [TS]

  foremost taste i would probably say the [TS]

  Lavender Hill mob because either you [TS]

  like the first part which is which has [TS]

  the tone that that that you guys have [TS]

  described its relaxed or if that doesn't [TS]

  work for you know halfway through it [TS]

  becomes a me chase picture for a while [TS]

  so friday in 1227 am Jason decided which [TS]

  of the movies he liked better thank you [TS]

  married her that's funny i would have [TS]

  said exactly the opposite the killing [TS]

  work for me it it held my attention and [TS]

  I think your average modern viewer gets [TS]

  over the the narrator pretty quickly [TS]

  because they just assume it's of the [TS]

  period huh [TS]

  and the Lavender Hill mob I spend a lot [TS]

  of time kind of looking at my watch [TS]

  you know it i I couldn't decide whether [TS]

  I appreciated that it was relaxing or I [TS]

  was just kind of bored by it and while i [TS]

  did enjoy the film I mean Dave David [TS]

  used the term charming and it is but you [TS]

  know it's a little slow and humor I [TS]

  don't think works that much but you're a [TS]

  little slow in your humor doesn't work [TS]

  leave a comment like that our listeners [TS]

  have asked for all this time take it [TS]

  back now I i love Steve too much to be [TS]

  like you've killed obi-wan and knew I [TS]

  ultimately i'd i enjoyed it enjoyed it i [TS]

  just it it was just a little too slow [TS]

  and I just don't I i'm not sure who I [TS]

  would try to recommend this to unless it [TS]

  was somebody that was specifically [TS]

  asking for older for movies just to gain [TS]

  breath kind of like what we're doing [TS]

  here [TS]

  how about a Russian wrestler likes to [TS]

  play chess would you recommend it to him [TS]

  god I love that guy seriously man I [TS]

  could watch two hours of Justin you're [TS]

  in luck Steve I've got the movie for you [TS]

  did anybody understand enough of his [TS]

  speech upon leaving the just economy he [TS]

  was he told the guy like it is like [TS]

  basically like you get locked up or [TS]

  something is like call this guy until my [TS]

  needed services right yeah which guy [TS]

  what guy who we talking about i don't [TS]

  think i'll probably his lawyer new yeah [TS]

  like your jizz quarter-on-quarter lawyer [TS]

  it seems like it could have been [TS]

  important but i had no clue what he was [TS]

  such a different movie it's a totally [TS]

  different move [TS]

  there's a movie about breaking him out [TS]

  of prison it's the killing to electric I [TS]

  would I was so like Shane Murray's [TS]

  unleashed 2004 race will be back in the [TS]

  killing of the English language yes [TS]

  Maurice and the old lady from the [TS]

  Lavender Hill mob team up in huh [TS]

  happy money are you not arresting her i [TS]

  watch that movie that's pretty it all [TS]

  right I should we should we close up [TS]

  this inaugural edition of old movie club [TS]

  we actually shared before the cop is [TS]

  coming to movie is fading into the the [TS]

  mists of time my hip [TS]

  remember me say these old movies you can [TS]

  watch me again we're on Turner Classic [TS]

  Movies you're one of your streaming [TS]

  services that we don't even know exists [TS]

  because we were made so long ago it it's [TS]

  amazing that there are images show up on [TS]

  the other computers and their sold [TS]

  well uh Phil thank you so much for [TS]

  suggesting that we watch these movies [TS]

  and the and again they're available for [TS]

  anyone to rent which is which is again [TS]

  puts you one up on siracusa with his [TS]

  obscure anime movie so exactly [TS]

  yeah I'm happy I'm happy to have been [TS]

  here i'm sure i will not be invited that [TS]

  Dan Morgan thank you for being here is [TS]

  always a distinct pleasure David lower [TS]

  thank you for being here thank you [TS]

  anytime [TS]

  steve lets you don't need to fly back to [TS]

  your girlfriend but we go away together [TS]

  in the car [TS]

  you are a naughty naughty man what's the [TS]

  difference [TS]

  and what's the difference the difference [TS]

  and I've minutes earlier so until uh [TS]

  next time thanks to everybody out there [TS]

  for listening to the uncomfortable [TS]

  we'll see you next time [TS]