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00:07:18 ◼ ► like all about one product or all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► one thing that it's looking like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► going to be a pretty potentially pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► big WDC but that nobody can really say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/445">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► for sure exactly why which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► interesting yeah it's kind of fun that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► way like we have a whole bunch of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► supposed to or intend to do happen maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► but but I don't but really nothing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► nothing that's concrete as a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► previous leaks and reports have been we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► can make it up in volume like it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► there's no like big spearhead like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► one big thing everyone's looking for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► then the ancillary thinks it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/472">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► bunch of other things it kind of reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► remembering what was it iOS 8 the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► iOS 8 was announced they now saw all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► those features that we thought would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► never come to iOS and there was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► no one of them was a you know the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/484">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► that we all held up but just the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► that there were so many things in iOS 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/489">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► that I was so desperately needed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► they all came that it would gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/494">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► gave you the satisfaction of sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► know being overwhelmed that with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► sheer number of things that I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► doing to improve its product and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► problem with these big laundry lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/505">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► where there's no one thing that's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/506">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► bunch of other stuff is it's not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► going to be there like we've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/509">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► rumors of everything they can't possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► all be there so there's going to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► disappointments mixed in depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► what what you care about the most mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► in with the other stuff so let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► through this somebody has done a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► bit of preparation in the show notes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► since I don't know who it is and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► couldn't possibly have been Marco that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/526">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► my process of elimination means it must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► have been John who shouldn't be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► research ahem budget night you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► notice I fill this document before every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► single show you think elves do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► yes but yeah yes I did I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► Keebler elves when they were done baking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/542">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► out but anyway you should now honor my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► my organization here because what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► written as the the heading for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► section that we're getting into here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► says WWC hopes in dreams because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► marco pointed out the rumors are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► probably do some iOS stuff man like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► right yeah okay I'm not I'm not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► interested in predictions because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► there's one big thing we be like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► they gonna introduce the hoverboards or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► not it's been super heavily rumor let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► talk about the hoverboards right instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► I feel like it's what do what do we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► or what do we think Apple should do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/578">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► each of these areas and obviously we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► talk about predictions in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► handicapping them how they go but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► ill-equipped this year to offer any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/584">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► announced at WWC but I feel reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► well equipped to talk about what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► like to see and then secondarily what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► think Apple should do and then like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► said inevitably will say well could they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► possibly do this all right so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► going to start and we're going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► through software and then we'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► through hardware and then we'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/607">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► can I offer an opening statement well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► since you seem eager to then please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► incomparable no it's way too intimating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► basically I slightly disagree with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► the hopes and dreams angle of this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/624">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► expectations to be things that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► like to happen but that I also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► will happen things that are realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► that are plausible that fit within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► Apple's you know recent hopes and dreams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► fits within that I'm not saying like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► want a hoverboard or you want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► roll the car out on the stage and do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► donut I mean like we're all gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► within the realm of reason here I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► that that was implied if that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► clear right and I do think before we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► into specifics I would say the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► trend I expect this year you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/654">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► overarching themes the most powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/659">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► I think it's we're going to have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► focus on Siri first and foremost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/665">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► different forms which we'll get to down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/669">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► the road but heavy focus on Siri also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► have you focused on iPad productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► and kind of integrated with that iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► Drive and then I think secondarily we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► see things like you know the iOS you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► I think the Mac is going to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► kind of mid-range priority and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► relatively quiet years for watch OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/690">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► TV OS but really heavy focus everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/695">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► on Siri in number one and then kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/698">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► iPad productivity and iCloud Drive like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► kind of number two so you're predicting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► that but since there isn't just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/706">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► about overall theme do you also hope for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► that and secondarily do you think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► what Apple should be focusing on well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► depends I mean you know this is not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► is this like you know here's all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► cool stuff that we've made this year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► you know like every Apple event and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► every Apple launch there is a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► degree of marketing strategy that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► into how they present things what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► even present at all you know what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► name things how things are structured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► and I think Apple is facing a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► strong competitive force right now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► the voice assistant front from both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► Microsoft that you know Siri has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/746">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► criticized for being behind most of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► rightfully so in various areas here also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► you know Apple doesn't yet have a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► Siri cylinder slash standalone speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/758">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► thing and we'll get to that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/761">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► that's rumored to possibly be announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► this this week or next week I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► so that might happen but anyway it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► seems like Siri is an area in which kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/768">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► of the the current trend of the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► fear that Apple operates in this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► the hot thing to be working on is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► have really awesome voice assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/778">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► stuff and Apple is widely perceived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► mostly fairly as being behind in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► area so I expect this to be kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► the way last year Apple was perceived to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/786">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► AI big data kind of problems and so last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/792">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► year you heard them say machine learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/795">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► named everything machine learning they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/799">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► bragged about how awesome that machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► learning was it was a hugely driven home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► talking point and it was everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► kind of marketed around their version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► saying we are doing machine learning in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► this awesome way and here's here's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► and here's how we're doing it and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/812">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► at it look at all the machine learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/813">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► we're doing similarly I that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► think Syria is going to be this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► it's going to be like the overall theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► of basically everything being called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► everything was cooperation learning you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► know everything's going to be named Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► even features that aren't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► what we think of a Siri today so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► like maybe maybe spotlight we've renamed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► to Siri maybe search in mail or messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► we renamed to Siri you know who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► like there could be a lot of angles to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► this I actually think it's possible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► homekit will be renamed to Siri so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► would just say things like this light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► switch works with Siri you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► think that's a there's a big chance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/851">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► stuff like this happening that Siri is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► what Apple is going to be beating us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/855">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► over the head with this year this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► going to be like the talking point theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► of the year and they're going to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/860">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► they've come and how incredibly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► advanced it is and everything else out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► throwing machine learning at us some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/869">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► more I don't think machine learnings day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► and the Sun is over like in addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/872">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► Siri like oh here's the thing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► Siri focus that you know it's getting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► with like this is something you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► see and do something you think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/879">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► should do well so by saying they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► behind and I agree or they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► perceived to be behind it actually are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► little behind in a lot of these areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► it's something they should do if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► actually concerned with keeping up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► the Joneses very many times in history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/892">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► Apple seems totally unconcerned with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► doing the same thing as other come as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/895">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► situation because Apple was pretty early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/899">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► out of the gate was Syria like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► like they just didn't touch this area at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► all they're in it like they they're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► that market of like smart assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► thing that you talk to and they were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/908">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► it very early and they have a brand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► so on and so forth so I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► situation where they can't say Oh apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► not interested in that art market like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► or will enter it when we think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/917">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► something there already they're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/918">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► there just behind so if they can if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/919">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► can have a CFO 'kiss I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► something they should and if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► means do they have the api's and new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► you know software things to do do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► have Syrian a tube or you know like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► have to have something behind it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► can't just sort of float on oh we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► made Syria a little bit better here some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► demos you have to have something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/939">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► have to new API is WWC new ways for apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► to integrate it a new product would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► awesome right and rebranding you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► I'm not sure they're going to ditch home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► kit in that way and I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► care enough about the Mac to rebrand any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► part of it to both Siri I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► Snapple Mac OS just got Syria recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► it's like be happy for a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► Mac OS will pay attention to you later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► okay yeah I think it is I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► something they should do and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/963">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► think it's also something that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/967">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► want to see them do because I like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► know we always except for Casey the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/970">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► hold out have cylinders in our houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/973">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► occasionally talk to Siri on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► and other things like that and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► love for Siri to get better and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/981">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► love for there to be other products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► other api's that incorporate Siri like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► said last show I would like to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/986">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► overcast and have it play things for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► so that kind of Siri can integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► with that kind of intent would be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/991">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► so that theme you know and again this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► not we haven't delved into the specifics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► we're just saying broadly speaking iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► Mac OS hardware software Siri machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► learning that type of thing it's maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► not my biggest hope well you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► hopes and dreams for it but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► plausible it is the thing I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► should do and I hope they do do it so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► will actually finish the series segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► now is that like I think how are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► getting away with this John usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► stops we don't follow the show because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► he he framed it correctly as abroad it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► cuts across all these things we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► talking about just iOS or just Mac OS or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► just hardware just new products it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► overall theme he framed it well his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► opening statement the overall theme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► the show if you come away you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► it is kind of a prediction but I brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► it back to is something you hope for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► is it something that you think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► should do so since I sort of have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► mic now I will say that Siri does not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► much for me either way it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► actively make me angry terribly often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► although that certainly happens and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► doesn't actively help my day terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► often although that also certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► uninterested in all of this that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► if history tells me anything any time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► underwhelmed and uninterested in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► something which may or may not also meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► be me being nonplussed about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► depending on who you ask I always end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► becoming the world's biggest fan for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► example would you wait one moment while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► I check the time on my beloved Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► watch so we'll see what happens if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► do release a Syrian a canister but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► sitting here now I just don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► not a bit so let's talk about the Syrian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► a canister because this is very heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► rumored it it really does seem like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► only is this a real product but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► really might be announced next week that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► that is what the current you know most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► common rumors are saying so first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► I think let's assume for the sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► this discussion let's assume that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► that this thing is real I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► call it the Siri speaker for now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► like I don't even know is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► cylindrical shape you know like if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► going to have a screen a cylinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► doesn't only make a lot of sense so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► might not be cylindrical who knows so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► I'll call it the Siri speaker although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► do think there's actually a small chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► but kind of a long shot that it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► beats branded but I think probably I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► think Siri is the stronger brand for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► them and they're going to want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► they're going to want to you know use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► that here or at least that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► that they want to drive more so first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► all the way I picture this project if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► you think about if you think through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► like how would you do things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► configure apps on it what kind of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► would there even be on it how would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► set it up what would manage it the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► that the Amazon family of products does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► this is there is an there is a leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► the tube named app on your phone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► not that different from Apple's watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► app on the iPhone so it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► companion app for the hardware product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► which means this Harvard product would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► need to be paired with an iPhone that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► what I think Apple is going to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► this product I suspect that it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► to be like there's going to be a Serie A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► p-- much like the Amazon lady named app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► and this will be like the centralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► control panel and I do think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► kind of going to be iOS in general if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► you're going to be able to access the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► Siri a p-- for other things as well like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► that could be a centralized control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► panel for homekit devices which might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► integrations apps etc I expect that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► also then be you know just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► that'll be how you manage apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► configuration in advanced configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► of the Siri speaker device because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► you if you have like a small you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► it's probably like a small OLED screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► on there it probably will be a touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► screen and everything but it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► going to be too small and not that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► for things like a full keyboard I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► think it's going to be that size screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► probably gonna be more like small status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► displays maybe for things like timers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► and maybe room for a few buttons like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► few big touch targets on screen but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► like you know probably bigger than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► watch but smaller than a phone what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► makes you think it'll have a screen at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► all have you read more recent rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► than I have no but but most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► rumors have said it will have a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► so I'm inclined to believe that it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► I also having used the Amazon cylinders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► without screens for all this time I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► think it would be nicer with a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► for some basic tasks there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► there's still like you know the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► primary interface will still be voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► but it's nice to have a screen as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► secondary information output device or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► an ambient information output device so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► countdown or displaying the weather all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► the time or things like that it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► to have a screen for things like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► don't know if they're going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► full-blown like video screen for video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► calls the way Amazon has I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► about that because that that whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► kind of makes not that much sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► it's kind of ungraceful and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► I'm not sure I see Apple even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► they already have like FaceTime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► everything I'm not sure I see them doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► the video call market with this device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► because they already have in all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► other devices but anyway I do suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► that they're going to have an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► companion app named Siri that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► encompass all this stuff probably even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► replace what is now called the home app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► that abuse with the new home app now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► it's called Siri and it comes all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► stuff and it lets you manage your Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► cylinder I expect the series cylinder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► be primarily sold on privacy screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► it will be the first screened one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► these things to market probably or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► least it'll be close to Amazon's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► I also expect Apple to push sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► quality hard you know Apple still has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► big foothold in music and they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► lot of people there who care about music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► and frankly it wouldn't be that hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► sound better than the echo so I expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► them to push sound quality hard it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► totally possible to sound good in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► small enclosure and I know that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► I have a Sonos play:1 speaker right next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► to my echo that I hardly ever use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► anymore because it's so much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► convenient but the play one is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► the same size as the echo and it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► way better it's not even close and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► know Apple would have the expertise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► develop something really good sounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► in that size class if they want to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► they probably do want to that could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► great selling point I would also suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► that this is also Apple and this is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► Tim Cook's Apple so there is almost no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► chance it's going to be just one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► these it's probably going to be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► know at the Amazon one with the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► is like 230 bucks something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► I'm guessing the cheapest one you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► buy from Apple is 300 maybe even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► and that that's not going to be the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► anybody wants to buy that there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► to be upsell models maybe they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► like different materials different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► colors probably they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► things like bigger or differently SPECT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► speakers you know like and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► Sonos does they have like the small ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► medium big ones and the big ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► maybe they'll even go as far as to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► different storage tiers like the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► TV but that was kind of my comedy option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► I don't actually believe they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► to do that I hope they don't because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► actual storage tiers on the actual Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► TV are a comedy option that make no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► sense so I hope they've learned and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► hope they don't do that here but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► guessing like roughly 300 bucks for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► base model but the one you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► actually want is going to be more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► that for some premium reason probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► better speakers or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► and then otherwise I think you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► you know if it if it runs it would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► sense for to run apps and the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► would probably do that is very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► to how the watch is doing it so the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► app would be the post slash container [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► and it would have a special extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► that runs on the Siri speaker and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► the companion app would manage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► relationship for you if you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► install or delete them but that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► be an iOS extension that is not running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► on the phone it's running on the speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► but it's managed by the parent app on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► the phone and by the companion app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► then my other my only other kind of long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► shot on this obviously going to heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► push Apple music and music gonna be is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► gonna be I think one of the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► selling points of this thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► long shot number two besides the beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► brand is that they might even pull a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► Sonos and attack them head-on and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► multi-room audio from day one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► currently Amazon doesn't do it all yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► know Google announced they were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► but have they actually shipped that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► I don't have the famoust idea John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► you're that you're in charge of Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► home on this show I have one of them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► I'll get a second one on the answered a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► question all right but so yeah III think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► it would be really cool if Apple did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► Sonos multi-room audio now that I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► a Sonu system for a couple of years I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► really enjoy that like it's really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► to have speakers in multiple rooms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► your house so like when you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► things around the house you can have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► same music playing and all them it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► really nice and the main reason I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► use that anymore is because it's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► more convenient to have everything voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► controlled so if Apple can combine those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► things Amazon I'm kind of surprised they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► haven't but they haven't so if Apple can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► be the first one to combine those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► and if they're going to have a heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► music focus and if they're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► good speakers in these things to begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► with that could be a really strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► competitive advantage because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► probably not going to be as strong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► third-party integrations so they can try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► to get advantages in other areas where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► Apple is strong so things like physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► design the UI the thing is sound quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► multi-room audio you know major music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► integration that's where I expect Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► to go with this you have such a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► vision of this entire ecosystem of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► products and as you think you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► inside information that we don't have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► think I do a lot of specifics that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► lot of specific no but I don't wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► I basically did was I started writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► out the this note of like what I expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► and I started thinking about okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► it does it run apps you know if it runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► apps have word is that where the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► come from and it was it once you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► thinking through like oh how how might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► they do this yeah now that every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► one of those things sounds like yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► that's exactly the way they would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► if they were doing that but what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► trouble with is you just listed up if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► they were to catch up with everybody on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► all fronts at once this is how they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1618">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► it and I agree like I don't know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► pessimistic that they are going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► that like and and what I'm thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► as all things you described it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► okay you're not going to get all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► stuff with the first product it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► to concentrate on one area or another so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► for example one angle could be again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► multi-room audio no screen series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► speaker right that alone seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► version of one product from Apple like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► none of the other things you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► are there there's no screen there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► apps there's no you know home kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► central home hub thing there's no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► know it's just is just Siri speaker you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► can talk to it and it's multi-room audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► and that's it and they're expensive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► this two of them right I'm on board with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► that or it could be a home hub thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► then no multi-room audio but just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► one good speaker and the thing or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► could be a little app platform thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► that isn't a speaker but that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► it's like I have trouble making myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► believe that today's Apple is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► come out of the gate with something so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► comprehensive well if they did like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► agree with you that if they if they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► attack on all those fronts that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► probably how they would attack on every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► single one of those fronts because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► is based on you know something they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► done before technology they already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► things they're already good at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► enhancements to things that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► know obviously that were obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► assuming enhancements to Siri to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► along with this to make it more capable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► just in general right well but what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► describing is a a smaller scale than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► first version of the Apple watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► it's way easier to make because this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► chunky thing the Apple watch was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► incredibly hyped and rumored that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► like them you know and it just the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► watch came out and it did do all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► things all at once but the lead up to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► matched that like it was not I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► temporary thing and had this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► special event for it and we all knew it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► was coming it was just like and what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► it going to be is it going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► holographic wrist thing that floats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► under like it was just it was added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► control right and they did do a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► job on it and you know they figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► the software eventually - but the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► stuff is like I wonder if Apple whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► have a tube thing man maybe oh here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► might be WABC maybe have screen maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► won't probably speaker cool like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► getting back to like the scope of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► Apple can make a really good Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► speaker as I think I said a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► shows ago it's like yeah they could if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► they felt like it right and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► no Apple can dominate this home market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► by doing everything super awesome way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► and just charging us twice as much well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► no I didn't say that I didn't say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► because there are going to be major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► areas of the that Apple's not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► competitive on because it's all based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► Siri and there are major areas this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► serious and competitive on things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► speed reliability and certain levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► underlying premise is that the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► comes along with a new and improved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► version of Siri like the Siri and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► tube is better than Siri in all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► places it's interesting question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► whether say they even do that oh I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► believe that at all I think it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► be exactly the same Siri you think so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► mean it's the very least I would hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► that it would hear me better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► microphones in a watch or in the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► just because they've got more room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► more microphones right well it might but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► honestly I don't have much problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► Siri hearing me properly like the words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► that I say are usually transcribed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► accurately it's what they do afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► that's that's usually probably yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► have some trouble with activations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► yeah but like on the Siri tube speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► screen whatever thing I'm currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► filing this in the category of a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► that I totally believe Apple has worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► on and may still be working on but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► I would not shock me if there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► dedicated Siri related hardware announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► at WWDC so I'm not I'm not pinning my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► hopes on this being at WWDC even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► a thing they're working on even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► are going to ship it later I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► like just think of the Apple TV that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► Miss WWC remember when that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► like the new Apple TV and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► gonna have it for everybody and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► it didn't quite make it right so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1845">TS</a>]
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00:30:48 ◼ ► right now which would be a shame but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► looking down the list of the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► things I still feel like they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1851">TS</a>]
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00:31:19 ◼ ► more constrained than all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/1879">TS</a>]
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00:33:58 ◼ ► most probably the most exciting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2038">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► that could be announced at WWC you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► inducing a new product category that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► Apple was in him before thing this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► that rarely happens we did that one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► I feel like iOS is the next biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► possible announcement because there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► lot of a lot of rumors and ideas around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► iOS not just improving its capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► improving capabilities of the iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► you know adding features that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► have wanted and like getting back on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► bandwagon of advancing iOS but also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► possibility that the major foundational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► interface paradigms in iOS could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► rethought like particularly about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► how application is deal with files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► drag and drop which dragon drop is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► not at all and files is in in in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► that is not like the old way where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► was no access to the file system but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► kind of this awkward middle ground so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► there's a lot of rumors surrounding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► and again when we say file system we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► don't mean like the literal file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► which is a PFS now yay but like in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► of file management there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► rumors about that and any and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► those things are significant for iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► most of it I feel like is focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► sort of the high end of iOS the devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► that are big and fast and have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► memory not so much on your phones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► what is this going to do about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► phones more about like hey I've got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► big powerful 12.5 inch iPad pro with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► stylus but multitasking hasn't changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► much in many years and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► drag-and-drop and dealing with files is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► and for many years that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► reversed about that being rejiggered but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► this certainly seems like the year when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► the announcement kind of like ios8 where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► the announcements for iOS will be things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► that have been a long time coming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► are super impressive that people look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► and say eh this is going to change how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► use my iOS device in a positive way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► developers are gonna say be I can't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► application which is a perfect fit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► WWC iOS is the glory OS and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► start adding it for lack of a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► word Pro features to iOS the crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► beloved developers were level useable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► it yeah I don't know what to make of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► that I was asked by a friend of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► Stephen Hackett to do a piece for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► members newsletter and so I wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► piece that I'll eventually post on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► website but probably not for a few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► um about why I think that the iOS the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► iOS gee-gees the iPad is not for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► anymore and since I just made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► public declaration that the iPad is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► I expect that whatever is done at WDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► this year will make me go crawling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► directly back to the iPad and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► everyone about how I never doubted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► iPad and the iPad has always been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► thing for me but I think it's obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► that this is going to be a year that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► heavy on iPad I think I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► possible that Federico vtg smile may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► fit through the doors on the way out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► the keynote which to be a truth be told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► is a good thing um I I don't dislike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► iPad I just feel like I'm neutered or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► not neutered maybe but handcuffed is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► better word for it handcuffed by it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► and so if if a lot of the pain points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► that I have when using the iPad went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► away that would be really great but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► come back to the a sensible point of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► I do hope and dream for a better Siri a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► P I I think it would be somewhat useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► for what I do at my day job but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► it would be super useful for things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► overcast there's been many times that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► I've wanted to say you know hey dingus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► I don't know fatal error in in overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► or something like that or you know hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► Friday and overcast and and having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► ability to do that would be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► really awesome I'm a little disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► that Swift is open source in that as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► as I know a lot of the things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► want from Swift aren't happening because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► if they were happening I would know them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► because open source and so I'm hopeful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► that maybe some stuff has been happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► behind the scenes that is Swift specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► I've been yearning for reflection I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► there's a bunch of other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► I've wanted that I can't think of off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► top my head but I every indication is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► that I'm not getting any of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► because if I was I would know about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► because open source however that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► said you know any improvements tax code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► to make writing Swift a little better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► make using Swift a little better would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► be great and I think I know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► tangentially related to iOS but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► varies what are you tangentially I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► say you know I rang you in but I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► allow you to make the bold prediction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► that there will be a new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► Xcode that's at WWDC no no but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► want to see like as an example they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► added I forget the official term for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► feature but like the memory graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► visualizer and they added you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► reveal clone which is also excellent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► those are great but that's that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► sort of a change is not what I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► for what I'm looking for is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► that makes yeah writing swift better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► easier like being able to refactor Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► code like the fact that we can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► is kind of preposterous now and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► been talking to some people at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► about Kotlin about some of these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► languages about the way dotnet matured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► and if you look at the differences in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► dotnet over the same stretch of time as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► Swift has had I feel like c-sharp but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► maybe I should use c-sharp rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► that c-sharp moved way way quicker and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► wish that Swift could pick up the pace a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► little bit which is funny because maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► the only way for them to pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► pace a little bit might be to take away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► some of the community involvement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► make it more dictatorial rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► I'm driving it I guess can go faster you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► really think c-sharp moved faster like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► incompatible syntax changes as rapidly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► as Swift did because I feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► was unprecedented no I mean generally it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► was additive any time that the c-sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► maybe it wasn't always but generally my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► recollection is was always additive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► humongous features and pretty much every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► version like I don't remember the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► history offhand but one one didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► generics then - Oh had generics that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► when the language actually got usable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► forget what 300 brought but then you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► link and then you had async/await and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► there's problems you're up to buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► Swift is in the three to four stage now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► equivalent calendar time though and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► maybe I'm misremembering maybe I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► get the check those calendar days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► because I think actually Swift has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► moving pretty quickly and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► check-check the timelines I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► even sharp moved at a similar rate but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► didn't break syntax as much and went for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► longer until it got certainly before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► until it got a single weight and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► even before it got linked yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► remember off the top of my head when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► link came out but it was it is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► been - my eyes moving quicker than then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► then Swift so link was released as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► 2000-2001 ish was dotnet 1 1 2006 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► so it doesn't been out for six years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► yeah that's true that's fair point it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► makes it seem it seems more compressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► cos in the past and maybe IDs Shores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► coming along better but yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► truth yeah so I expect obviously there'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► be new version Xcode and you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► of those things that you talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► feel like they should be coming around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► this time as as Apple turns the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► division slowly but surely over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► multi-year period entirely towards Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► still no ABI compatibility like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► still waiting on that limits as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► people plan out every time rings up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► more of a concern for Apple than it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► for developers people say who don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► shipping slightly larger than normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► applications which I guess is everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► judging by the App Store but things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► refactoring and other features that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► aren't available for Swift but have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► available in some limited form for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► see or seem like they'll be reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► easy to do given that the entire ID is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► built on the same compiler platform as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► the language and so on and so forth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► uh yeah I expect people to be happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► with the features they get there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► honestly it seems to me from looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► everything that there is still a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► big emphasis on the basics you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► compile quickly correctly without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► that maybe they're still not quite in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► position to start giving you all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► frills that you want and that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► concentrating you out there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► getting more serious about source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► compatibility now and every developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► there wants their thing to compile in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► sane amount of time and they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2578">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► the compiler to crash and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► want there to be bugs and we're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► think we're coming out of that phase or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► Swift slowly but surely and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► they'll have some things to brag about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► like look I don't know they usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► don't worry about how many times EXO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► crashes but they will brag about compile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► times hey look you enable whole module [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► optimisation and pile this big project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► and it was garbage in the past version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► but the new WWC beta version is like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► times faster and everybody cheers so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► was a crowd pleaser WotC compile times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► mm-hmm but in terms of like iOS directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► shrug I don't know and like I'm there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► there's nothing I can think of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► can point to that that really grinds my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► gears on a daily basis and and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► that's largely because I don't use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► iPad very much at all so you think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► you know if you're not an iPad user or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► we're setting aside the iPad where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► think Apple have all needs to do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► and they will do stuff I think that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► they're rethinking how applications deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► with and share their data not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► drag-and-drop business because like on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► phone you know you still just got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► app on the screen at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► probably all the windows what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► will do with the giant phone but if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► change how apps deal with data that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► could surface itself on the phone I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► trying to think if that would that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► change something about how how we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► the phone right like because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► wouldn't be a paradigm that only changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► on the iPad it would change everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► across iOS and if they have a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► about how to do it that would change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► in some small way imagine maybe even God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► I don't know like I was trying to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► of like what we do with our phones we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► deal with photos a lot but we don't deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► with them as files we deal with them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► these abstract things so yeah I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► struggling to think of any specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► thing that they desperately need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► on the phone specifically to iOS but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► sure there will be something and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► know obviously you know you need new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► small features performance improvements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► you know bug fixes all sorts of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► like that but burn we're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► counting those but dpi I feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► will be this will be a pro year for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► if all the rumors do be believed and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► should be because that's that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► iOS needs the most tension I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► would say that you know what with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► the rumblings we've heard about the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► productivity enhancements do sound very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► plausible I think a lot of it could come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► to the phone I mean you know some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► stuff like side-by-side multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► obviously won't be coming from the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► in all likelihood but they could do drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► you know what if they did some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► thing you know this is just totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► random but you're sort of right now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► what if they did some kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► where if you like force pressed on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► selected piece of content say then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► got something kind of like what expose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► and the Mac is where you were like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► kind of zooms out to like a grid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► last couple of most recently used apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► and you can drop it on to one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► and then that pops in you could drop on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► to a specific part of the app but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► there are ways to do it on the phone I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► not saying they will do this or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► this may even be a terrible idea I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► thought of it now so I haven't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► so it could be terrible but they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► and in inter app communication and data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► sharing without actually having side by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► side multitasking where the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► too small like on the iPhone so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► wouldn't rule it out but I would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► say like in general I'm very excited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► see if the rumors are to be believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► here the the elevation of iCloud drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► probably into like the desktop only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► Documents folder for the I for iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► that is a really I I think since they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► there has been this constant fight with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► an apple promptly from what we've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► spearheaded by Steve Jobs personally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► possibly even forestall and kind of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► line of thought of trying to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► having to deal with files they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► worked so hard to get rid of files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► because files are the old way of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► things and people find them confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► them whatever else whatever else they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► have files have problems just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► everything else but I think what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► found over the years is that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► people understand files better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► Apple gave them credit for and that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► much of work that people do on computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► devices really comes down to dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► with files and no matter what you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► do with the app model with having these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► little containers at the apps work use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► their own data this kind of like file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► lists architecture and or that you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► of hide the files in these little dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► places like the document picker that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► have now and you kind of reluctantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► deal with files like it as the system I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► think what we found over over these you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► knows eight year whatever years that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► we've had the iPad that we have that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► had a iOS 10 years Wow Gia's been a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► time no 11 oh my god anyway all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► years that we've had iOS I think what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► found is that files are here to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► that we can we can reduce the ways we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► deal with files we can design apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► don't need to deal with files and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► that should even be the default way most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► apps are designed depending on what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► do but that we can't get rid of files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► that they're here to stay that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► use them that they aren't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► even bad like it for many types of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► that is less bad than the alternatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► that we've been trying trying to shove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► down people's throats for the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► decade so maybe this is finally the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► when Apple has finally embraced files on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► iOS because everything they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► prior to this has really not been that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► it's really been like reluctant you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► back alley stuff now like they from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► we've what we've heard is at all true it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► sounds like they have finally taken the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► easier to work with an iOS yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► definitely the rumor but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► they already took a big step in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► direction when they when they adopted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► modified version of the Dropbox model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► with iCloud Drive like that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► a big change that was kind of not that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► agree that it didn't solve the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► in the same way but that was the turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► point I feel like where you could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► from the outside you could see aha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► inside the company the argument that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► just described like the the supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► jobs for stall position totally against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► files that the tide had turned right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► obviously they couldn't come out at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► point and say oh we've revamped the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► entire way we deal with files in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► like they took a while and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► these things bother by a lot of the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► rumored things a lot of them are like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► that was almost ready for iOS 10 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► didn't quite make it like they have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► a long time coming some of them could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► have been theory almost made it to iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► 10 but they have just you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► missed releases and so they've built up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► and so now it's all landing now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► iCloud Drive did come out it came out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► the Mac and iOS and it did change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► way a lot of applications you do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► things you mentioned like the Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► picker which thought that was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► unheard of in the early days of iOS so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► this could be like the coming-out party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► for a strategy that was embarked upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► multiple years ago and now finally you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► know comes to fruition and in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► the files like every time I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► different ways of dealing with files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► that are not actual files or not actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► file system and stuff like that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► a little bit about Google's take on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► which I know is different cuz all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► interesting files and documents like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► well this you know there's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► alternative ways of viewing the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► thing but it's the way Google is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► relentless about dealing with documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► and documents that are organized into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► things that look like little folders but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► at no point are there anything is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► any abstraction that is identifiable as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► a file really I mean even when they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► experience of my experience using Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► Docs and Google sheets and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► Google presentations and Google Drive at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► work with a bunch of other people seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► how other people both talk about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► deal with documents Google Documents is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► subtly different than how they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► about and deal with files because we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► have shared drives with files in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► Mareth and I'm not sure one way is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► but Google has been made a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► convincing case for me that dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► things like documents even with awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► weird shareable URLs but that the URLs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► quote-unquote remove the documents to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► different quote-unquote folder like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► weird it's like this weird half measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► that I don't think is appropriate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► iOS but it shows me that there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► it is possible to have a middle path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► that people find at least as usable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► in some aspects better than the old way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► of dealing with files obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► tremendously to I think it bounces off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► the awkwardness like that people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► in the grand scheme of things people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► probably would rather be dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► files and folders but because Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► does so well with live multiple verse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► documents that makes you know a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► people like a company or working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3118">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► files together forgive a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► other things unfortunately don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► like Apple can bring that if history has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► shown Apple cannot bring the seamless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► multi-user editing of all data types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► with the constant synchronization in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► cloud a source of truth and blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► blah blah and style that Google does so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► something else and this is probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► bad time for me to be pondering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► revolution for the entirety of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► bringing it more in line with enhancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► its capabilities by taking the taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► the shackles off and not confining to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► very simple paradigm because I just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► done today reading a sad tweets read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► from our friend CGP grey about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► battles with iCloud Drive and the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► of free spaces Mac thinks he has and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► exhausted file descriptors which may or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► may not be attributable to this all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► is to say that at least on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► iCloud Drive is still in the doghouse as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► far as I'm concerned and I kind of don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► relish that paradigm expanding much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► until reliability gets better but on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► I have to confess I haven't had any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► everything is much more locked down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► but but the thing you described mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► over like the force press and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► dragging onto things if like you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► talking about dragging data right yet if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► interface some way to grab one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► one of those documents or files or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► whatever and bring it somewhere seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► like a necessity and obviously that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► then inference you described works even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► better on a big screen because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► you've got the second hand to swipe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► that's the whole problem with like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► you've grabbed that quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► grabbed it what if the thing you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► drag it to isn't there because it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► the grid of things like then you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► do like it's the springboard rearranging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► problem like when you grab a thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► rearrange springboard and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► rearrange it to a different screen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► got a drag you to the edge you hold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► operation that people find awkward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► unsatisfying whereas if you can grab it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► on your iPad and with your other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► swipe around to find the thing you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► to drag it on top that works on a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► it works less well so I almost think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► that interface you describe a will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► almost certainly be a part of a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► demos even if it's not files data but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► just like it has to be some kind of grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► a file and then zoom in or out to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► different view and put it on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► else it can't just be side by side at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► least I feel away they're going to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► be some kind of a little like shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► thing to kind of temporarily hold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► while you use your other while you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► the same hand to pick the destination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► right but I always think that interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► is actually better suited to a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► screen it sounds like they won't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► on a smaller one in fact they have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► choice but to do in a smaller one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► because they said you can't split it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► even a shelf on a smaller one so well on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► my phone iPhone 5 iPhone se where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► hell that thing is called you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► room for a shelf to put I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► I'm kind of excited about that I saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► coming out party of this this file-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► paradigm because and I think it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► solution everyone seeks obviously nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► will love it way better but but we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► experience with Google with Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► products nothing about them made people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► better about dealing with files but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► brought a bunch of features with it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► everybody loves and I guess the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► thing only improvement to the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► paradigm it brought with it is sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► the people seem to be able to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► which is not true of like sharing and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► and the fact that you can move things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► around and people's links to them don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► break which is is convenient so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► I've kind of middle the road hopes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► iOS 11 but I expect it to be the true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► star of the keynote if there's no Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► tube I would also expect some degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► redesign we've seen little rumblings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► here and there about this I think if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► look at the conditions that were right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► before iOS 7 so at the iOS 6 era it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► a time when the system stock UI widgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► started looking more dated than usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► and they're starting like apps started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► coming out that people consider to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► really good new design that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► fresh and different that also was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► of converging on some similar principles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► so back then it was like letterpress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► like then vesper like the you know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► apps that were back in the I was 6 era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► that were doing like you know flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► shapes no big textures you know mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► color and you know accent color based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► design things that that ended up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► very close to what iOS 7 was and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► iOS 7 came out it was kind of at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► right time for it well I think now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► the right time for a redesign not on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► scale of iOS 7 redesign but maybe on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► scale of when we went from iOS 5 to 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► iOS 6 was kind of a half step in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► redesign like it kind of it got rid of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► lot of the iOS 5 extravagance of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► like textures like certain things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► flattened and toned down and sanded away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► and things like that so I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► going to have that level of redesign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► here because we can see even if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► around even Apple's own apps if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► at iOS 10 the iOS 10 music app and maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► especially I think has a different look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► than everything else and a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► ago they released the WTC 2017 NASA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► isn't that the thing we always do it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► see app and we say this is what the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► iOS is going to look like and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► there's an element of truth that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► of times not right but but there are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► think we can see common elements that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► good fresh new design that are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► being agreed upon or converged upon that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► are very different from ios7 some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► examples this would be things like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► of layered sheets with rounded corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► instead of navigation controllers in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► 7 the push big white sharp rectangles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► side to side and now you have these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► softer rounded sheets that slide up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► pull things with swipes and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► swipes are your primary navigation often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► for a lot of apps you move controls you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► know you scoot them kind of in away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► the edges and corners so much because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► they're harder to reach on big phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► this is a lot of stuff I did with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► overcast and the reason I did it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► because I saw the stuff happening I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► this trend happening I wanted to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► ahead of it you have buttons that look a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► little bit more like buttons like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► WC app is a great example they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► they're rounded rectangles that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► they're not textured there there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► solid little solid color instead of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► an outline because that I go in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► with note with just the text and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► there was outlines around the text and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► now we can go slowly creeping back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► onto the old style button where it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► solid rounded rectangle with text in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► middle exactly yeah now you guys have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► flat saw a flat shaded filled solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► filled rectangle or round wrecked with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► with and and it's with a bold color to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► it isn't like a subtle thing it isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► gray it's a bold color and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► apps are now kind of permitted to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► more than one color at a time like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► the iOS 7 design was largely based upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► using mostly white some thin grey lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► and then you'd have one tint color and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► that would be like your one accent color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► for your app and you'd use that one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► you basically had like single color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► design grayscale plus one color now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► think we're having multiple colors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► now okay to have an apps again and so an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► eeo again if you look at like look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► Apple music look at the iOS 10 Maps app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► and this new WTC 2017 app and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► you see this clear convergence of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► refreshed design language it is not on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► the scale of iOS 7's redesign but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► same or more maybe as the iOS 6 readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► think you're going to keep the I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► guess they have to probably in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► the the button list buttons like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► just for things that are in whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► call the top bar where you had done or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► you we good yeah navigate yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► that was a big question I have when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► write-ins I was like what do they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► with navigation bar buttons because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► outlines and textures and like and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► and I don't think that would look good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► here but I think they can be done well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► part I mean part of the answer honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► might just be that navigation bars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► going out of style and that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► most apps are not using these kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► like sheets and cards and things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► are not as often using navigation bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► or not putting buttons there because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► can't reach that anymore so bright but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► they're they're still going to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► OS I think they're going to keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► they'll keep them in the OS especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► for legacy applications they obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► have to importing them and I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► will continue to be on the Doorn because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► at this point like the bar itself serves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► as a pretty good framing device to be - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► indeed the tint color plus the bar this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► is one area where I think they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3658">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► right makes it pretty clear that by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► point if you have an iPhone for any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► your time that that done thing is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► button and then you can hit it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► kind of have an idea of what it will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► one of the most awkward elements that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► was that'd recently was at the iOS 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► where they had the back arrow thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► jam up into the upper left corner to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► you back to the previous application I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► would love for them to come up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► better solution for that I don't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► idea for them but it always strikes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► is the the most awkward Johnny I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► painting inappropriately composed text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► jammed up into the cars it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► beginning of a kernel panic like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► starts writing here's this tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► bit and I appreciate the functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► like I use it all the time it is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► although sometimes it fakes me out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► because sometimes I want to hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► thing that's in the navigation bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► underneath that thing that's not a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► operation to like carefully you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► here's the thing I do like I go for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► mail application click a link and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► I'm into Safari the navigation thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► that hop says go back to mail right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► then you're scrolling through the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► page it open in Safari and you navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► that you navigating you realize oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3718">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► want to go back to the previous page in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► Safari yes if you didn't have a case on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► your iPhone you'll probably edge swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► but I have difficulty with that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► I do have a case so what I want to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► hit the back button in Safari which a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► right and B when I find a way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► visible is nestled snugly under the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► to mail link so very frequently I go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► hit the back button instead I hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► two pixels away back to mail thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► instead of going back as far I go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► an entirely different application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► then I'm sad so I would love for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► speaking of it there you go there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► something they could do for iOS on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► phone for small screens sort out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► solution is like like you said like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► know navigation bars the advices don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► do that because people can't reach them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► anymore and here are different paradigms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► you know either just you know edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► swipes or a lower navigation bar thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► or those rounded rect sheets or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► I'm I'm ready for that because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► that a iOS interface it read it up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► know best practices shift that better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► reflects the size of phone screens these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► days is a little bit overdue ya have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► double tap to move things down like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► was nice they put that there but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► know that that's another like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► little back thing that's another like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► well what can we do in the timeframe of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► this release to help people with large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► screens up you know well they could tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► on the thing and make the screen fold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► that yeah all right perfect ship it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► I think is the more embarrassing hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► compared to the status bar back button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► thing the reach ability feature is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► embarrassing I honestly I I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► probably has some utility but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► never remembered that it exists the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► time I remembers it exists is when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► accidentally activate it and then I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► you know I could probably benefit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► using that intentionally every once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► while but I no never never do I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► think I've ever used it intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► that eventually I just disabled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► there's an option so instead of super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► say because I knew I would only ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► accidentally invoke it and it drove me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► nuts so I just turned it off and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► been fine so anything else about iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► we're just zoom 11 there's gonna keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► going up with the numbers yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► somebody had an interesting theory I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► want to say it was either Mike or Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► that that everything will go to 11 this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► year so in Mac OS 11 I Oh s 11 yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► was that was Jason I highly recommend if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► you if you haven't heard by the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► this episode at this like probably four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► hour long episode if you haven't heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► I highly recommend this week's episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► of upgrade there's a lot of good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► in there yeah very much so they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► whole draft it's very funny and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► where it's very much worth listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► particularly the WDC episodes are great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► but anyway yeah going to 11 I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► took the numbers they took the Roman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► numeral off Mac OS and I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► see why they put the number back on at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► this point you know I mean like iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► Mac OS has the the place names and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► like I like the yearly the flavor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► yearly flavor I honestly it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► cool if I always have those two I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► they don't do it or whatever but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► it's kind of like a legacy thing for Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► OS when it had the code names then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► had the cat names and now it's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► place names and get you know get Mac on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► with some fun stuff it had to endure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► this terrible capitalization squished up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► name so it matches all their other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► stupid OS names at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► continue to give it to place names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► because there's lots of fun things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► can do with that if they were to get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► of that and just go with Mac OS 11 iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► 11 certainly fits with the human for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► story like is that they want everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► to be all the same and look now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► sick right but what the hell would the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► 11 mean because it's not the version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► number I can tell you that like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► really just bumped the version number to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► be 11 I think I feel like they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► have learned their lesson when they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► to you know from 10 9 to 10 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► everyone's like version number you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► everyone's incorrect version number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► checks and their applications got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► freaked out to change the first digit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► from 10 to 11 in the version I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► didn't do it once I suppose they can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► it but it just it just seems like not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► big marketing win because 11 is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► boring than like Sacramento or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► I think changed in the first digit makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► total sense like it and you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► Jason said on the upgrade like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► they're ever going to do it it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► total sense to do it now so it sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► then matches the iOS version for future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► and you know if it whether the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► four you know right now the first digit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► has been 10 for so long it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► meaningless like you can just ignore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► first it doesn't matter at all which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► kind of raises the question of why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► even bother keeping that for like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► like it what purpose is it serving just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► being ten point something for it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► making people's incorrect version number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► checks continue to function correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► that was a Windows thing that's why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► went from 8 to 10 that was this on a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► thing I mean like know that with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► Mack they had it when they went ten nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► to ten ten because a lot of things would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► interpret ten ten is ten one and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► less than ten nine because yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► it's not a big deal like those you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► it's not gonna stop them from doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► especially for marketing reasons but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► it's you know I don't I think the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► reasons it to to not do it is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► place names are more fun than numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► and and like and we all been asking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► Mac OS stop trying to keep pace with iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► would be more comfortable if you waited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► a little bit longer between releases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► got things settled because that's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► role your role is the more slow-moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► one but they're not doing that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► already not doing that they're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► releasing them both once a year I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► but but if they make the numbers sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► then that's like saying we're signed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► for you know an unlimited number more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► years where every year that they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► be in lockstep and I don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► yeah anyway what else what else do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► besides naming things aside I love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► every year this discussion happens about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► like Mac OS naming it's always heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► discussed because it is it is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► interesting and everyone has an opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► myself included like much more than we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► think we will anyway so let's get aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► with the new default desktop backgrounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► will be that's the most exciting part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► Mac OS is like and it's kind of and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► know I speak as someone who reviews for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► Mac operating system for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► I enjoyed the like the visual theming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► and branding and on the Mac the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► desktop picture is the biggest boldest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► branding thing of the running OS iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► they do the best they do with branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► is the lock screens they show in the PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► stuff and maybe the selections of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► springboard backgrounds but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► always much more hidden than if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► a Mac desktop of it like a newly booted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► Mac even if it has a few windows open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► like the the desktop background is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► background is much less dominant so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► there's not much in iOS to massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► brand the OS outside of the the widgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► themselves and the UI and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► that so I I do enjoy like a you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► you're making a joke like oh who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► what the default desktop background is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► the Mac yeah that's a big part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► excitement of a new version of the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► operating system for me I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► on an anomaly but like the big posters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► they put up with whatever the theme is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► or the big waves for mavericks and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► cool pictures of Yosemite and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► that stuff and you know in the absence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► of them particularly changing the Mac UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► interested in these days all we get is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► cool name and a cool desktop picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► sometimes that's enough to make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► association of my mind that I will I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► will link those images in that branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► in that sort of mood and theme with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► whatever features they add whether they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► be oh this is the one that had Siri or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► spotlight or is the one that had time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► machine or this year this is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► with the new file system that they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► even mention in the keynote so so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► so that leads into my next point here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► our Mac OS which is you know first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► all I think we we all assume based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► how they did iOS as roll out and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► promises last year that a PFS is most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► likely going to ship with whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► next version Mac OS is and I would even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► say most likely even the default and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► would go a little bit further and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► what if it's the only option what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► have to convert your boot drive other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► drives you do probably whatever you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► but what if you have to convert your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► boot drive to a PFS upon installation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► think that will be that big of a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► because a we know they can do it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► really well right so that you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► not like it's going to trash people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► data and of all the things be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► boot drive the only time that messes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► with you is if you frequently use target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► disk mode right because every other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► that that disk is read you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► worry there's not IDs Plus anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► target disk mode all of a sudden your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► other Mac's can't read it anymore if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► they're not upgraded as well right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► all if you're sharing it like it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► know SMB or you know whatever like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► not doesn't matter what format it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► so I think that's a reasonable thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► do I'm just wondering like what would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► the advantage right oh this operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► doesn't have to run hfs+ maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► there's some kind of headlining feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► that demands a PFS like the newly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► rejected version of time machine that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► like way more efficient and stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► they have an old version of time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► that works as H of s plus I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► personally I don't think there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► to be the fancy new version of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► machine that works with a PS yet anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► for forcing default unless is some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► feature I that I'm not thinking of about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► forcing the the boot volume to be a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► I think they could do it but I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► for a reason why they would want to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► maybe maybe simplicity I like again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► all the Mac things they just feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► do they care enough about the Mac to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► that aggressive with the advancement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► the platform or where they just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► this is one area where they will take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► slower pace like this year a PFS rollout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► a couple new features that are based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► it next year if we're lucky the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► version of time machine that takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► advantage of all the cool stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► see I have a hard time gauging like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► much of a big deal Mac OS is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► this year there's a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► things that that the Mac could you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► if they're going to be putting more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► effort into the Mac than they have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► recently there are areas that that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► be really cool things like a new time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► machine based on a PFS snapshots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► everything and and that could there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► that's incredibly powerful the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► you can do by having a snapshot based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► time machine you know and there's - you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► know you can do not only the external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► drive backup but even like just making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► giving snapshot support to the internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► time machine like the the time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► on its own drive kind of thing like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► of like mini time machine having get rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► of the terrible local time machine hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► that we are yeah our Mac laptops whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► experience extremely unreliable and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► still they're grinding away trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► something useful for you and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► just please stop and you can turn it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► yes I know exactly that like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► in mac OS because of having to do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► advanced features on HFS+ that if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► just make a PFS the only option that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► just your boot drive automatically gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► converted when you install the next Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► OS which is exactly what they did with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► iOS then they could they could stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► supporting a whole lot of that legacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4378">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► stuff like it would be it'd be much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► better for their efforts to bring the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► PFS features forward if they knew the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► was only running on a PFS so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► it's it's plausible but I still have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► support all hfs+ anyway because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► could time machine back of external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► volumes and they're going to be H of s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► plus and so on and so forth so like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► not like they can get rid of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► time soon that's why I'm thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► like but what if there's a feature that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► they just like they wouldn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► have a feature that says oh let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► demo this awesome new feature say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► the new time machine and also have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► say oh and you could only use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► feature if you convert your boot volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► that's the case where they would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► you're you know they probably won't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► mention it but be it would be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► convert your boob on you no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► but even in that case they still have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► support the old crap way of time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► because people I have external drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► that I back up their time machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► they are hfs+ and asking people to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► know not asking but forcibly upgrading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► the boot drive as part of the upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► process like they did in iOS you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► swing that telling them oh and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► way you also have to convert all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► external drives not not gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► well I I'm stopped miss that they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► require on the boot drive though but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► anyway that's a that's a question for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► prediction wise do you think the were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► the letters AP FS and that order all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► capitals will appear on any slide or be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► spoken by any presenter like I said we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► will it appear on a slide yes absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► worst-case scenario it will appear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► the word cloud slide uh yeah it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► mean obviously in State of the Union and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► stuff would be I'm trying to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► the keynote does it does it make peace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► didn't make the keynote last year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► that's when it was introduced remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► we found out about it when we left the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► building and it was like oh by the way a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► specifically as I remember it too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► like the fact that it didn't make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► keynote didn't do not good enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► replacing a you know 15 year old 19 year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► old depending on how you trace it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► important it made the State of the Union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► and it totally will this time too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► it'll be sessions about it and I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► all happy and everything but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► that's big of hopes and dreams give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► this one ha talk about a PFS at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► passing during the Mac section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► viz keynote do you hear that Craig make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► Jesus so here's a long shot there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► there was a thing that I think he TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► tipster told us forever ago that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► like being considered and I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► heard a thing about it since what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► probably isn't happening long shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► though do you think they would offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► iCloud Time Machine as an online backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► and and here's so one reason I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► they might besides the fact that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► now would have the the technical info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► sure with a PFS to reasonably do it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► think one of the one of the themes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► I expect to see here is Apple pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► people even harder into subscribing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► iCloud data plants into buying more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► iCloud storage space give you more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► more compelling reasons for people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► start paying Apple three five ten or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► twenty dollars a month for this iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► storage space because there's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► be more and more features that can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► iCloud time machine would use a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► I'll buy totally going to do that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► just a question of whether it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► this year or not and and speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► Apple services I think I mean we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► complain about their pricing and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► they're sometimes competitive sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► not depending on the year depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► the thing you're looking at depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► how you're measuring it but I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► felt like the Apple way to do things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► we mention this many times in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► context of iOS and now I think of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► again in the context of iCloud time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► machine is not to buy an amount of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► because that's a techie nerd thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► people don't like to think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► especially because it's like more price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► you know higher price for more put to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► sell to sell a backup my Mac plan right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► like I mean you're like Backblaze or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► other things do like you don't buy based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► on space you buy based on I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► backup this Mac like you buy like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► membership in a club and then you break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► the association between like Apple loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► to do break the association between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► dollar amount and a spec right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► dollar amount and storage space and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► it's the dollar amount and a result and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► the result is your Mac is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► iCloud backup cloud and just like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► phone is backed up to the cloud your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► is back though obviously the phone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► the same problem that you buy storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► spacing people run out of it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► freak out and we've talked about this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► million times if Apple's going to charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► more than everybody else the way to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► that extra cost is to I mean essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► like go unlimited but not really like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► make it to make it that you're buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► the result and obviously how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► storage space we would use would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► based on the size of your your your boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► drive of your device or their like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► obviously that would be a limit and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► know and I mean but like to frame it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► that way or maybe it doesn't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► a way honestly aback players can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► why the hell can't Apple right can't is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► very different and will continue anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► Time Machine has to come just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► know if local time machine is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► coming this year let alone cloud Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► Machine is it I think that is entirely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► matter of how they could have done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► years ago like they could have done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► badly but like you know they did it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► the phones with HFS+ and obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► phones is easier because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► exactly what you need to back up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► can discard lots of stuff because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► can get it from the store and yada yada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► but Apple love services and you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► services and they have the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► underpinnings to do a much better job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► this so it's it's only a matter of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► and a matter of you know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► attention is the Matt getting yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► really do think that what Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► and what you know they're pushing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► more and more services revenue obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► it's it's the it's an area of growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► that they can use that is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► easier to achieve than some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► different scales and everything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► they're going to be pushing this heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► as they have been the last couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► I expect in general I expect there to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► things like very very heavy pushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► towards subscribing to Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► that's going to be a big one and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► iCloud Drive or just iCloud storage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► going to be one of those things too I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► basically my theory is that within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► probably the next few years Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► to try to make it so that using an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► iPhone or Mac or any Apple device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► without having a decent amount of iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► storage space that you're paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► every month should feel like using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► without an Apple ID but there should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► like all this stuff that you're missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► out on by not paying Apple five or ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► bucks a month for this additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► storage that's where I think they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► to push this and I think they will and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► it's not like purely cynical there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► lots of great things they can offer once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► you do that but I do think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► certainly a big motivation there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► increase that services revenue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► that's going to be one of the ways they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► do it that happens to correspond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► things that are also nice for users my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► stretch hope and dream for Mac OS before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► we leave this topic is that I left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► thinking about this but announcement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► vastly improved 3d API support whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► that be OpenGL Vulcan or whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► an inexplicable announcement because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► associated with it be like why alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► like non-games on a Mac and all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► doubting your improved OpenGL support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► like that you're caught up with the spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► and that you're like and we would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► the answer is like this another shoe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► that's gonna drop it it's called the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► Pro that they're going to make someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► and maybe it'll have awesome GPUs right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► no not DirectX for mac OS blah more in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► the chat if it I would be excited by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► that because it's an area where they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► super behind and they've been paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► attention to metal and you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► don't I don't know that's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► predict it but I would I would be super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► excited by that so I have a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► stretch goals I mean first of all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► should before we leave the the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► plausible section we should also cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► that I think the rumored iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► implausible for this year's release the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► loving that in with Mac OS instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► the iPad I suppose yeah it's really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► Mac OS feature the the idea behind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► feature as rumored is that the is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► an iPad pro with a pencil could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► attached and some I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► only going to be working over a wire or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► whether they can do it wirelessly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► they are wirelessly hopefully but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► basically that can enter a mode where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► Mac app can use the iPad and it's pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► as a stylus surface of some kind and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► don't really know anything more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► that or whether this is even in for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► year or not but I think the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► would probably do this if they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► to do this would not just be that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► would be like a second screen that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► could just move windows on to no I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► it would be more like the way they to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► the touch bar which is it would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► separate type of output display slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► input display that apps would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► specifically write support for so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► would specifically say like what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► be shown on it and specifically receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► the events from the pencil from it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► would if they do it that way I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► it's a much nicer feature I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► it's better it and it would have slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► adoption if you have to wait for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► apps that that could benefit from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► to integrate this this potential new API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► you know just just like the tux bar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► I think that that if that works out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► could be a way better way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► and that's probably the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► would do such a feature yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► everyone comes talking about it as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► the the single phrase for this feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► is oh you can use your iPad as a Cintiq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► but a Cintiq behaves as essentially a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► monitor that you can draw and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► appears as a second monitor you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► arrange it with the other monitor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► full UI of your mat can be there you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► drag the little menu bar down to it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► that is actually your primary display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► but that's not how you just described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► the this feature working on the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► that it wouldn't just because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► apps now you can get for your iPad to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► this like Oh your iPad is a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► screen from your Mac and now you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► draw in your drawing app with a with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► stylus because of course it's the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► screen you have input this seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► more tart the rumors of a more targeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► interface like you said like the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► bar that is it specifically addressable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► by the applications it is not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4978">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► hey every application gets us free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► because it's just a second small screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► which they could also do as a mode or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► whatever but to really to leverage there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► the capabilities of the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► high refresh rate and the stylus input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► and all that stuff it seems to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► it has better solution to have apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► support it specifically in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► the support touch bar to be able to draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► a UI over there and to be able to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► the iPad handle a lot of the drawing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► know the the local drawing to make it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► responsive as we know the pencil can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► in in the good applications having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► collaborate with the mac app and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► could be good and it will make people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► iPads you know more powerful and capable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► but not that I'm going to say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► reminds me of the old world but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► of that arrangement and it seems cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► and useful and a great way to leverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► Apple's existing hardware with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► clever software solution but then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► think of the Microsoft Surface Studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► sitting over there kind of glaring at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► gone you know tapping its fingers going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► you know hello guys I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► you're doing over there with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► multiple devices and your steampunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► Windows But Here I am a giant screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► touch me drawn me and put me up now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► anyway yeah I don't understand why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► is something that people want like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► mean for like artists and stuff I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► but why would a regular Schmo want their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► iPad Pro is like a Wacom tablet for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► yeah as far dhis but it mean in this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► we're describing it yes totally for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► artists because Cintiq s-- are super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► expensive and i have one they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► that great like they're they're okay if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► you already have an ipad with a stylus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► and you like drawing on it but you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► like adobe illustrator the full version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► of which does not or you know photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► whatever doesn't ship for iOS just these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► cut-down versions this is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► solution to interesting solution to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► pro app problem to get more people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► buy iPads to use with their macs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► they might buy anyway but this pushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5098">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► them over the edge i because if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► doesn't work as a second monitor or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► a Cintiq i don't see people buying it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► a way to use your Mac through a stylus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► and again they're there iOS apps you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► buy today to remotely use your Mac to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► use your iPad as a second screen to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► your iPads as a you know as a Cintiq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► like device for your Mac presumably when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► Apple influenced that they will do it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► better job because they have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► low-level access to all of that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► stuff and so that's what people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► waiting for it is narrow but like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► terms of you know the the potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► slash promised focus on pros both with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► iOS 11 and making iOS more capable on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► the big iPads and the Mac Pro this seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► like a move that is aimed towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► creative pros and app developers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► think they can make a cool application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► with this capability and think they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► sell it for a fair price on the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► Store just seems to me like it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► a lot of investment for not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► return I don't know maybe I'm missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► the boat not that much investment though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► like I said I feel like they're almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► there with the implements a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► parties can do it the plumbing must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► there Apple's just going to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► better lower latency job of it and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► an opinion about how it should be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► you know in terms of api's and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► like it I think it could be really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► too I mean if you think about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► obviously there's lots of artistic uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► for this and you know but and I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► use any oh you want to use that audio I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► see it coming well I obviously I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► consider I would try that but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► there's a lot of areas of common tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► that people do that could benefit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► being able to quickly alternate between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► pen input especially really good pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► input like this like like the iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► good pen input and also a keyboard a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► mouse and all and to be able to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► alternate between like you know having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► having that incredibly awesome pen thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► that only has been available directly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► iOS so far but also integrated with Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► workflows that could that could apply to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► lots of things that could that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► as simple as like if I'm working in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► Apple notes which I really like notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► I've been using it more and more and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► did have one problem a couple months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► where like one device just wouldn't sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► and it just was stuck for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► eventually I started sinking again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► I've heard a few other people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► had similar problems some that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► little concerning I hope I could work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► her up a note that you must hunt down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► and expunge right exactly yes who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► but but like one of the things notes has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► drawings with the pencil and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► and so like it right now if I want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► note to contain a drawing I have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► over to my iPad and add there and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► but it's like if I'm working on my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► that's kind of not convenient but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► was working you know in if I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► that and my iPad was on my desk I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► just like reach over doodle something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► and then just put my hands right back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► the mat keyboard and go right back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► work on the Mac not have to wait for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► sync to happen but up and down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► cloud and everything like I'd be I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► working in the document right here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► know stuff like that I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► lot of potential workflows you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► whether it's basic things like doodling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► or annotation marking up documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► there's so many different things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► aren't just like freehand drawing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► Photoshop where this could be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► helpful not to mention the freehand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► drawing on Photoshop or even things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► like if you're drawing something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► Illustrator you know in a vector program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► where you're doing less freehand stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► and more kind of like drawing with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► math and parameters but you do want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► add a freehand element to something it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► easy to just add that and then go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► to your keyboard and mouse for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► precise stuff you know so that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► there's and this all might not happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► because this all depends on lots of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► high-quality third-party integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► happening and that's always a crapshoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► you never know what developers will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► advantage of and how soon and how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► but there's a lot of potential for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► kind of feature so if it isn't a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► deal for Apple to add this if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► a huge three-year undertaking where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► can do nothing else this would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► to have yes and it's something that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5338">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► you know it I think features that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► really change the way people work on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► Mac are hard to come by these days so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► think when they come behind them there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► there's actually a decent chance you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► know that as long as there's not massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► downsides they actually might consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► doing them so this I consider plausible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► and if they assume you know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► actually do it I think it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► really cool I haven't had a good Adobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► Mac app demo it keynote in a really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► time that's the old world gonna be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► to come back and I'm back to the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► days and have have a Photoshop demo on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► Mac granted with an iOS device fine yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► okay win some you lose I should run some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► filters and time them now I do have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► stretch goals you had one for the Mac I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► have to because it goes back to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► earlier question of like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► how much effort they put into the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► this year like if they put in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► amount these are actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► plausible but that's you know with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► Mac you never really know whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► medium-sized year or a small year let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► be honest and so I think my number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► stretch goal is the beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► iTunes replacement now I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► greedy I know yeah I'm not sure it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► probably not be but I'm thinking we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► would probably start seeing apps with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► new names uh that like that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► maybe the idea of the iTunes yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► the iTunes app would still exist but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► would be like in utilities or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► buried somewhere and then so like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► plugged in an iPod okay you here's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► ancient app for your ancient device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► would be the iPod a second app called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► iPhone yeah the worst yeah but uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► think it's plausible this year not I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► wouldn't say likely but plausible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► we have an Apple music app on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► and what that is is up in the air that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► could be they could literally be like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► the first version it could be a fork and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► rename of iTunes with just the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► stuff enabled and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► stripped out and mask everything out all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► code is still there the preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► dialogue is still motile but yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► just about music it's an if deaf at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► top so it could be as simple as that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► it could be a total from scratch app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► that only does Apple music so it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► only have the app music streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► service it would not have local library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► playback or even the iTunes Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► because that's not Apple music that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► different and there's a report of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► iOS Apple music app don't forget that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► who use UX kit for everything right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► like motor was all over again honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► that I had on my list I had because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► flick because if you think about it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► you know one of the reasons why why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► would be hard to do this all in one year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► is that if they don't want to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► Apple music if they want it to be Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► music plus local library support plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► store support they would probably do one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► of those weird like iOS port kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► apps to the Mac where it would be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► of weirdly iOS see maybe it would use us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► cater maybe it would use its own version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► of that because that might be for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► for the photos team who knows it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► be weirdly limited it wouldn't feel very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► Mac like but you know it could be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► apple music app and I think that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► along with you know obviously they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► had like a video app or a TV for the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► they'd have the TV app obviously uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► don't think of that anyway and then also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► the Apple the iTunes podcasts were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► recently renamed to Apple podcasts so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► maybe there'd be an Apple podcast app on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► the Mac so this stuff this stuff all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► aggressive to have all this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► plan for this year which is why this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► like my stretch goal I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► again I wouldn't say it's likely but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► do think it's plausible and I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► that it is it is something they will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► to I just don't know when sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► think about the sort of concentrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► political capital that must be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► iTunes Team app is that like there's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5575">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► associated with their product at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► high and low levels at various times in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► Apple's history it was arguably the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► currently making it ever made like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► heyday of the iPod and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► iTunes was where it was all happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► and that it it managed to hitch a ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► on the iPhone rocket a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► like the fact that it has remained so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► long and that every year it gets these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► it gets so much more attention than than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► the improvements that are actually made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► by this attention seem to warrant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► year after year oh we've moved stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► around and we've changed the UI but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► fundamentally have not fixed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► application it's like there must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► people working on it and every year they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► have new things that they do and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► know everything like not small things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► they have big new ideas about how the UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► can be different and apparently this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► year they think the mini players should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► be not so many anymore and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► always something but the preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► dialogue is still modal and it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► old iTunes you just like but what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► there must be such a concentration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► power there that they that that like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► power and like the power to make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► people continue to add features combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► with the neglect to say we don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► enough to make you do all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► that marketers have said that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► inevitable but like we always wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► the first one to come so the only one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► those things I believe is that an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► music app is the closest to not being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► stretch goal but all those other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► like I don't I don't even know well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► know it's it's I don't really understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► how we could have somebody with a media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► app or a group of people with media pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► so little attention to the Mac after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► position where you you have a media app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► and you just completely ignore the Mac I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► mean Marco how could one ever get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► that position what would what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► their their headspace have to be to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► completely neglect the Mac for a media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► based Apple has people who know Africa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► though like that is key like that I clap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► kid I'm scared it's not like you I kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► you could have stopped that sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► that Apple has people yeah Apple has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► staff of more than one developer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► haven't you heard you can charge way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► more for your Mac app oh yeah yeah once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► you ask the other Mac podcast players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► how well they're doing booming Marty see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► what that case you will have to pull a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► Twitter if ik for the Mac and just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► know spend an obscene amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► for his copy yeah well just be told I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► actually don't really need it as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► anymore because I've just been using my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► air pods to connect to whatever device I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► need to connect to so when I listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► podcasts I connect to my phone but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► principle we have to all agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► there is some amount of humor to mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► lamenting iTunes as overcast for the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► is simply a URL not much because again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► corporation so that in mind they're fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► now if you want to talk about stretch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► goals I have the mother of all stretch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► goals this this is probably a macro know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► this I think I think the Mac Pro being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► released is more likely than this but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► have it on here she's going to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5758">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► realm of fantasy now my number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► stretch goal my final stretch goal for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► Mac OS is significant improvements to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► the Mac App Store and sandbox ok here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► background so both the Mac App Store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► sandboxing launched in 2011 it was I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► to look it up to so long ago 2011 they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► had a ton of shortcomings it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► like a they were both this both the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► Store and sandboxing were really very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► very rough one-point O's and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► been completely untouched since they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► have been a rough 1.0 for 6 years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► and so I actually did hear rumblings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► what little while back that there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► effort to actually rewrite the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► Store app and to really improve it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► we've seen you know ever since Phil took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► over the App Store there really has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► substantial progress and there were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► before that but they like now there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► lot of progress in the App Store's and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► still think this is a very long shot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► this year I do think it is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► finally on the roadmap I think somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► is finally working on this the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► question is when it comes out are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► racing the iTunes replacement team those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► two teams I mean honestly the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► star has a long way to go before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► before it earns the stripes that iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► have in terms of being the crusty old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► application that you can't get rid of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► the system because it's essential but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► that is I mean I groves I guess iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► doesn't prove like I left before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► does it I think I think I mean the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► App Store app has been improved in ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► that are not visible to users like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► they have addressed reliability under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► the covers to make it not as awful as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► was they haven't I mean it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► I totally granted that but I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► think that there has even if it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► underlying the thing because the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► Store is this strange application like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► so many of these cloud powered things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► where it's it's really just a thin a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► partially web-based UI on top of a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► of persistent processes that are running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► whether the App Store is launched or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► which is why you can click the update' [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► thing to update your things or install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► an application then quit the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► Store app and your installation proceeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► because it's not your app it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► it's just communicating to background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► daemons and I feel like that also why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► you click that update button just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► nothing happens yeah well it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► rejection happens right if but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► communicating to the background daemons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► and telling them to do their thing has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► improved over time but I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► plausible for them to do a do an iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► fundamentally changing the nature of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► application in any way but you moved a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► bunch of crap around and recolored some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► things right or maybe you add tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► support and just say look significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► improvements the Mac App Store which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► think does not fall into the category of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► significant as far as I'm concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► because like I said it's an iTunes I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► update where it visually looks different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► people think it's the new Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5940">TS</a>]
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01:39:04 ◼ ► demons and the same weird web base you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► are communicating with it and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► added tab bar support or some crap like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► that I could see them doing that but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► am 100% willing to believe that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► project is is under way somewhere to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► massively improve the Mac App Store by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► making a new application with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► name that works way better I'm sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► in progress but I will be flabbergasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/5966">TS</a>]
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01:41:50 ◼ ► OS there's nothing I can think of right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► I can't imagine them not delivering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6114">TS</a>]
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01:42:00 ◼ ► talked about this a lot last year that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► that a lot of the low-hanging fruit has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► been plucked and so at this point like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► what do we really want and what it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► down for both for me is more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► hardware than software and WDC in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► the last few years has not really been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► hardware event but that being said what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► do we want from max this year and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► tell you I want a MacBook adorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► update that's all I want in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► please can I have a MacBook adorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► update yeah I think the the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► rumors are unusually strong this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► and usually in in previous years you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► right that WBC is almost always a no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► Hardware event but usually in previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► years when the Hardware rumors would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► start up Apple would shut them down with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► a carefully placed controlled leak so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► reliable report from the Wall Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► Journal or something like that saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► there's definitely not going to be new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► hardware announced as they saw for focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► event and that hasn't happened this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► there's a lot of hardware noise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► there's been no denial like that or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► expectations setting statement like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► anywhere so I'm guessing that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► there is some fire under the smoke the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► only question is which of the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► rumors are actually scheduled to to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► come out this this time like now instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► and and you know Apple schedule-wise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► don't expect there to be an event in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► mid-july or anything like it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► the hardware is going to either come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► or it's either going to be announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► when it ships is a different story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► but it's either going to be announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► Monday or in September or October you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► know I wouldn't expect anything anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► in the meantime there so I would say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► the rumors this time are a little over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► the place it's the rumors basically that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► everything is getting update but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► ones the seem most plausible and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► concentrated are the the pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► every modern MacBook and MacBook Pro so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► the 12-inch and then the the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► generation of 13 and 15 inch MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► Pros are all rumored to get KB Lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► Intel CPU of updates that that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► nice it is as far as I know all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► parts are available like they're from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► Intel I don't think we're waiting on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► on any chips being available or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► like that I think it is therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► plausible for all these things to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► these these updates there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► people who are saying no it's way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► the fact is these all came out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► October they were already late even then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► and you know going like nine months it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► between updates is not unheard of they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► used to do things like that all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► when new CPUs came out faster and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► would get on top of them faster so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► that is a thing that happens sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► not not often but sometimes so it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► totally plausible for them to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► these things so quote soon and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► do you know everyone has this like wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► list of things they want to be changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6297">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► with the new Mac approach with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► recently so I won't go too far into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► basically I would expect no major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► external changes I wouldn't expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► different ports or more ports or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► return of an SD card reader or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► that people want that was removed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► would not expect any external changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► whatsoever if they have revised the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► keyboard to fix the issues that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► been complaining about with reliability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► especially with heat I think if they fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► that they won't say so it'll be a silent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► update the one area that I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► might hit like the air the main areas of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► complaints well to one I think it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► is possible they will offer a 32 gig ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► option on the 15 inch even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► would I think it still would need to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► but I don't think the battery dry like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► have looked into the defined details of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► this I'm out of time really qualified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► but the difference between the super low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► power ram and the kind of low-power ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► would probably only make maybe like a 5% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► difference to battery life off the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► of my head like that's probably that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► probably the ballpark we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► about here and it it is it makes total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► sense why Apple would not want that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► be on all of the MacBook Pros of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► certain size but it would not surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► me at all if they have that as an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► so like if you want to trade 5% of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► battery life for 32 gigs of ram fine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► know that's that's within the realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► Apple component options they've offered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► before that's within the realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► different CPU options or things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► whether you get the discrete GPU or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► or integrated only on certain models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► that use offer that would be great if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► 9:32 get Graham option with the option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► for for no discrete GPU I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► they will but that would be a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► offset it maybe in future of models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► right and that's one thing too I also do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► think I think are the GPUs in KB like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► powerful enough to do an integrated only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► 15-inch now I know because with skylake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► there was a thing we're basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► yeah Intel's integrated GPUs for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► generation sucked and so they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► appleton probably won't think they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► good enough I think KB like they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► improved them and so it would so one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► the biggest complaints about the new map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► of pros is that they've been more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► expensive in the old ones so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► Apple will try to address this in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► small way with not necessarily price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► drops but lower SPECT entry prices for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► things so the 15-inch would probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► the first one to get such a thing maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► even the only one to get a meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► lower price but maybe they could do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► discrete or sorry an integrated GPU only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► 15-inch like they used to do before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► which I've always been a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► because the battery life is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► substantially better and more consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► and more controllable and so integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► only 15-inch I do not expect a touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► less like 15-inch escape I don't expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► maybe maybe later like in a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► probably not soon but I do think having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► a cheaper entry level configuration is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► likely probably I GPU only and then also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► a 32 gig option on the high end and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► no other changes to the lineup I suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► that will address a lot of people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► concerns it'll it'll really turn around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► the discussion on these on whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► they're pro or not if anyone still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► having the discussion like I think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► wanted to hit that and I think they I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► think they will in these two ways if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► it might have good PR but looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► those actual changes I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► actually don't address that many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► perception like oh we'll lower the entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► price but if you get the 15-inch MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► Pro you want it's still really expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► and will add 32 gigs of ram but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► like we're making things that are adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► more battery so you're sacrificing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► it and you still have to get it read GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► like it is it is superficially making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► changes in the direction that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► want but it doesn't fundamentally change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► means make it just kind of it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► better pressed except for the 32 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► is a capability they didn't have before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► and so you know kudos for that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► that's that's going to be mostly a win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► but I would still you know I would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► be awaiting an actual revision that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► reimagines these machines with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► new with the new demands of the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► in mind like with it but what what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► cranky part of the market has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► saying about these like make a new set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► of machines that take that into account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► and I and for the MacBook adorable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► know Casey just wants them to revise it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► and like whatever they revise it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► he'll get it yeah I'm going to put a 25% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► chance it's not even gonna be a stretch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► oh but I would say like I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► plausible that there can be another USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► port on that sucker not 50% 25% chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► because they know it's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► eventually I think this is probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► the year to do it it's just like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► let's just do an internal swap kay be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► like blah blah blah but yeah just know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► I'm that's that's my that's my mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► stretc goal aside from the Mac Pro stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6597">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► which we'll get to in a second that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► mac stretc goal that MacBook adorable if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► I have a vision in my head of Phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► Schiller's understated way that he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► mention that I wish I could - Phil sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► like the question would be like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► we've got another USB port around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► side they're not nice you know he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► undersell it right he would he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► just like go through the slides get me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► not dwell on it too long I'm ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► that to happen but Casey will be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► no matter what he just wants he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► wants an internals revision all I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► is to give up all my money really why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► that really so exciting when you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► yes they came out and we can order them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► and you get them and you key starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► sticking it'll boy the shows we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► out of that no because I won't be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► to bring it up I won't be able to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► it up because if I do then we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► tell when you type in chatting there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► no ease in your text anymore there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► that if I bring it up then I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► admit hashtag marker was right and if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► know anything about me we know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► don't like to do that he doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► hashtag he's got a broken keyboard yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► there's the hash symbol doesn't work I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► would only say mark was right because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► Oh key would be stuck down oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► quis Marcus yep all right so what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► the Mac Pro can we just get it over with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► I don't have a drink handy so let's make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► it quick I might take on the Mac Pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► they still keep people hearing they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► they're gonna tease the Mac Pro I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► like what what can they even do i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► don't I don't need anything from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► I'm patient I'm content to wait we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► already had our Mac Pro moment we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► everything is fine there if they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► tease something get us deciding I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► I'm not you know I'm not a monster I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► not I don't object to being teased I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► just have a hard time believing oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► believing that there is anything worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► teasing at this point like the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► accomplices I have a logo I honestly at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► this point I hope I don't have a case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► design that they can tease I hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► haven't finalized that yet because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6717">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► want them to do a really good job like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► said I'm what I don't want them to rush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► to market with a box with a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► stuff in it I want it to be cool in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► the ways that cool mat can be cool and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► willing to wait a couple extra months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► for that right I have a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► believing they have a case they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► show hard to believing they would show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► the case I'm Marco pointed out when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► we're talking about this thing and slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► before I pointed out like well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► teased the 2013 Mac Pro but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► that was practically a finished machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► but they knew the design they knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► everything was going into it like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► was there was nothing that wasn't like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► we're going to show you the case design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► of our work in progress like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► the sh machine that shipped like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► and they're not at that point within my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► prime admin so if they want to show a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► logo and a tone poem kind of video like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► the little dots connecting ios7 things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► they showed 700 times sure but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► expect anything and I won't be mad if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► basically I I really think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► very very soon to be showing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► meaningful it would be nice if they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6776">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► but I would I would put the likelihood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► fairly low on that but I do think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► it's worth asking about the iMac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► they in that the Mac Pro ahead in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► Mac section in the notes I had laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► remember at mike's desktops but the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► is overdue for an update and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► configurations of the iMac during that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► press briefing and and those I believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► I believe it said those were for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► year so so the you know the mapper they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► said not this year the iMac I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► specifically said this year like item so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► also right and so it's it you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► either now or the fall event basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► is when these are when these are likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► to be happening I am still incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► curious to to learn what is a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► configuration of an iMac and how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► that differ from the Mac Pro and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► how does this product not make either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► the other configuration of the iMac or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6836">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► like where what is this middle ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► there are things they could do there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► they're all kind of weird and obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► like high end Intel CPUs and maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► one or two Mac Pro features but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► slightly better GPUs like yeah like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► don't know that's why it's it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► that that's why I'm incredibly curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► about what the iMac Pro is and and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► makes it different from the iMac and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► Mac Pro I think the joke I made and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► likely there was pinstripe but now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► Kasey's matte black iPhone put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► finish on the iMac make no other changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► called the iMac Pro people but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► your high profile that is possible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► the IMAX could come out this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► this event but I think it feels it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► weird it feels late for the regular iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:50 ◼ ► but it feels a little early for the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6890">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► Pro depending on what they're putting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► it so I would say that's more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► be pushed to the fall event and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► there's also there is this rumor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► the MacBook Air would be updated with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► changes other than it would get modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► guts and I think it's unspecified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► whether that means sky like receive a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► low same old TN screen but modern guts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► incredibly plausible to me because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► it because Intel at some point is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► to stop making whatever ancient CPUs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► has that point is probably soon so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► they're gonna have to stop like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► they're gonna have to like finally put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► something else in II can that screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► manufacture stop making that screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► there yeah and and yeah and if if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► would do such a thing I definitely think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► that I agree with the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► predictions I've heard which is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► will not be mentioned it would it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► probably it would be barely indicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► even on the website there there might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► able yellow new tag on it right yeah at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► best like I think that would be the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► change like I wouldn't expect a retina I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6958">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► wouldn't expect USBC I would expect no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► other modernization of this platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► except skylight guts or even or KB Lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► but probably it probably even skylight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► cuz like they don't even want to be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► modern with what they put it so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► that III would not expect big things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► they're just a very basic update and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► you are a fan of the ancient macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► platform that actually would be a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► nice computer if you don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► anything modern or retina you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► don't have eyes yeah right yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► but like like imagine if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► actually change the case size or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► incredible battery life yeah that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► like it's the danger of that thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► longer you keep it around the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► people realize you know if they just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► a Retina screen on this thing it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► best-selling laptop again don't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► we wanted to buy these other things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► way more money well the sad part is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► probably still as Apple's best-selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► laptop yeah but you know I mean like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7015">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► would be that it would be the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7018">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► we back when we were all recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► 13-inch MacBook Air is like yeah default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► recommendation right that would be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► those times again all right what do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► think about the iPad remember you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► skipped over the Mac Mini let's just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► no updates that seriously an option in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► there yeah here's the problem like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► the stuff we've gone through so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► things were like oh maybe or they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► do this but they can't there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► enough time in the keynote for all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► right so well but it's so like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► the Mac books I guarantee you we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► spent more time talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► MacBook Pros and they will ya know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► would they wouldn't mention that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► like all even just those the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► we have mentioned like this there's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► so much time they get a lot of stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► cover whether or not there's a Siri tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► thing I just feel like this is we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► overstuffed the thing with uh with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► things that we think they're over fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► percent chance of being mentioned in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► already yeah and keep in mind also that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► the keynote is going to also have a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► of time consumed by things like retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► updates like and like on the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7076">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► Gruber endowment respectively like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7078">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► there maybe this is when they announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► AB major retail thing and then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► they have angel Aaron's out on stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► like that all sounds very plausible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:07 ◼ ► there's probably also going to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7087">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► kind of you know Jeff Williams like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► social medical environmental good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► initiative something like that like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► it's going to be time with that and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► going to be demos of any new stuff they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:18 ◼ ► have and there's gonna there's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7098">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► all these all these segments that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► take up a lot of time and so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► stuff we're talking about is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► squeezed into little like intermediate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► sections between it all so like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► we're going to sit here spending two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► a half hours on this but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► they're going to spend 20 minutes on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► what we're talking about here for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► and a half hours so I think that if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► have a lot of announcements that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► what they'll do is they'll end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► squeezing out the the less tech focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► things because in engineers where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:46 ◼ ► have a lot of those especially if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► tied to one of the tech announcements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:49 ◼ ► fine but not not that they feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7129">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► filler but you don't have the luxury of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:53 ◼ ► an extended Stegman about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:57 ◼ ► health monitoring thing or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7137">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► right unless it's tied to oh and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► way here's the new Apple watch with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► glucose measuring thing like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► only time you get to have that segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► or if you have a keynote it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► a lot of stuff in it then it needs some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► time to fail they'll do that but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► anything close to what we've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► through is there they're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► to be super efficient to be like we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:15 ◼ ► a lot of stuff to get to there's this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7155">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► this like that's that's what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► for the Tim Cook's little thing where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► comes out instead of stuff I expect his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► spiel to be we've you know we've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► jam-packed thing we have a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► to get to he always says that but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► to actually mean it or emphasize it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► slightly more before he gets off stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► and the parade of other executives come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► out alright so any thoughts on iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► hardware so my prediction is that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► is this year's iPad event I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► there's going to be iPads in the fall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:45 ◼ ► think this is the iPad event for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7185">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► year because it goes in with all the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► the software advances a third that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► they're announcing and there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► time left in makino you might as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► write exactly as like a shove in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► on you know I think the the incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7195">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► we'll be strong rumors about this 10.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► whatever inch iPad being basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► new the new 10 inch class size just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► bigger screen roughly same body shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► and size that is so incredibly strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► rumored it's very likely to be true I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► think what we see basically is the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:21 ◼ ► 10.5 is the new high-end iPad pro I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7221">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► basically unchanged and just has its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► price dropped a little bit because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:31 ◼ ► you look now in the lineup we mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7231">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► a couple episodes ago there's a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► price gap between the new cheap nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► point seven inch iPad and the iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:40 ◼ ► and that and like the nine point seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7240">TS</a>]
02:00:42 ◼ ► it's 329 to 600 it like that's the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7242">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► jump there it's a huge price jump so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► something's up like that seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► temporary thing that we're waiting to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► filled in with that gap by Sept by other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► things or by changes so I'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7256">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► basically the existing nine point seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► get dropped in price probably a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► bucks you know so it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► close the entire gap or it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► to come all the way down to like 400 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► anything but you know it'll go from 600 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► to 530 a price that's my best guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► there so you have the 329 base one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► have 500 for the iPad pro nobody cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► the iPad Mini anymore sorry Casey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► then the new ten point whatever will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► 600 that's my best guess the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► one question I have though is the twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► point nine dead I think there's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:34 ◼ ► strong chance of this I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7294">TS</a>]
02:01:36 ◼ ► very strong chance the twelve point nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7296">TS</a>]
02:01:38 ◼ ► gets no update and is basically left for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7298">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► dead similar to the menu we'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:44 ◼ ► hear the end of that uncertain bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7304">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► podcasts I know well no they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► whatever because it's going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► same screen resolution in a smaller body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:51 ◼ ► because they all have nine point seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:53 ◼ ► because they're better all the twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7313">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► point nine users like that are like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7316">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► at like I mic and fatigue she like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7318">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► all also bought nine point seven s and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► in many ways liked them better because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► the nine point seven is a way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► I kind of hope they kill the 12.9 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:12 ◼ ► make an even bigger one because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7332">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► I want bigger I know you want that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► that's a different thing though like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► think what what what I noticed with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:21 ◼ ► 12.9 and part of this is because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7341">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► actually did resell the one the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► I bought at it met a substantial loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► what I most what 12.9 is that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:31 ◼ ► quickly after release it was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7351">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► indefinitely discounted by a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► amount of money it places like Best Buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► and Target and Apple does this sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► to kind of unload things at lower prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► that aren't selling very well like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► won't didn't want the PR maybe of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:48 ◼ ► dropping the price so soon but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7368">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► within a very short time of release that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:53 ◼ ► these other retailers that work closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7373">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► with Apple and sell very large volumes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7376">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► were suddenly able to sell these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7377">TS</a>]
02:02:59 ◼ ► at like a hundred and fifty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7379">TS</a>]
02:03:02 ◼ ► below retail or $200 below retail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7382">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► this wasn't like a temporary weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:07 ◼ ► sale it was like this was just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7387">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► the new price and it seemed like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:11 ◼ ► was quite a fire sale going on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7391">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► 12.9 very soon after its release that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:15 ◼ ► never stopped so I'm guessing it did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7395">TS</a>]
02:03:18 ◼ ► sell to apples expectations and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7398">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► really think that there's a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:24 ◼ ► chance that they that if they're able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7404">TS</a>]
02:03:27 ◼ ► cram in the functionality of the 12:9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7407">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► into something with that 10.5 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► screen into a nine point seven inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► style body which i will which they watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:38 ◼ ► yeah which all the rumors say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7418">TS</a>]
02:03:40 ◼ ► that's exactly what they've done I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7420">TS</a>]
02:03:42 ◼ ► guessing that the twelve point nine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7422">TS</a>]
02:03:45 ◼ ► not long for this world because oh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7425">TS</a>]
02:03:47 ◼ ► you got to remember Tim Cook's Apple all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7427">TS</a>]
02:03:49 ◼ ► that means is they'll just keep selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7429">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► it all right right but but what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► saying is I bet it doesn't get an update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► but but it's more than that though right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7434">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► because even though this phantom 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7436">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► whatever inch iPad is theoretically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► same screen resolution screen resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► is not the same as screen size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:08 ◼ ► that's why you know the iPad Mini is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► same resolution as a full-size iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► by that I mean the nine point seven inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► iPad but some people like the nine point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► portability of the many and in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7459">TS</a>]
02:04:23 ◼ ► I don't think just because this phantom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7463">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► ten-inch I've had one of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:26 ◼ ► resolution as the iPad mega I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7466">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► think that that by default means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► the 12-inch iPad just good iPad pro just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► goes away I think there are people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:35 ◼ ► fatigue II like CGP grey like Mike that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7475">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► want in a a 12 inch iPad pro in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► I think the DG will switch better then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:49 ◼ ► and remember like 10 10 point whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7489">TS</a>]
02:04:50 ◼ ► is much closer to 12 point 9 the mineus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7490">TS</a>]
02:04:52 ◼ ► the nine point seven right in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7492">TS</a>]
02:04:55 ◼ ► area I think I think all those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7495">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► you listed the teacher just wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7497">TS</a>]
02:04:58 ◼ ► productivity right and I think he might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7498">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► take the size reduction as a win like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► just needs to be able to have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:04 ◼ ► full-size things next to each other in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7504">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► blah blah blah he'll get that in a 10.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► like he still has young eyes yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► aside from setting aside the random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► people that we happen to know market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► wise the the selling point of a twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► point nine over a ten point something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► maybe maybe barbecue made for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:28 ◼ ► artists that you just want a bigger you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7528">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► know a bigger canvas drawn because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► you're you know physically moving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7531">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► stylus over the cell height which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► again why I argue for an even bigger one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7534">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► but I'm having a hard time thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:41 ◼ ► someone outside that that problem domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7541">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► who would actually prefer a twelve point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► nine over a ten point something with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:52 ◼ ► exactly the same resolution especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7552">TS</a>]
02:05:54 ◼ ► if they don't update the twelve point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7554">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► nine s internals and again getting back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7556">TS</a>]
02:05:57 ◼ ► to Tim Cook sample maybe they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7557">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► continue to sell the twelve point nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:00 ◼ ► because why not and some people still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7560">TS</a>]
02:06:02 ◼ ► want it but it's really getting if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7562">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► ten point whatever comes out it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:08 ◼ ► pressing hard up against the twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7568">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► point nine and it's pressing hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► against a product that hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► updated yeah I don't know if things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► think things don't look good for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► I really hope things look good for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:21 ◼ ► future of a larger sized iPad they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7581">TS</a>]
02:06:23 ◼ ► need to just need to widen the gap a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7583">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► little bit because they're getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► encroach from below I will also predict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► on the iPad section I would like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:32 ◼ ► updates to the pencil in the keyboard if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7592">TS</a>]
02:06:35 ◼ ► they do I would expect based on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7595">TS</a>]
02:06:37 ◼ ► what I just said basically damming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7597">TS</a>]
02:06:38 ◼ ► 12.9 and to you know nothing else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7598">TS</a>]
02:06:41 ◼ ► would expect that it would only come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7601">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► to the new 10.5 inch size maybe the nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:47 ◼ ► point seven would also get it if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7607">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► could be the same size like for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:51 ◼ ► keyboard but I'm guessing we get it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7611">TS</a>]
02:06:55 ◼ ► had a pencil too and a keyboard too with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7615">TS</a>]
02:06:58 ◼ ► improvements kind of all around not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7618">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► massive earth-shattering improvements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:04 ◼ ► I don't know better key somethings I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7624">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► don't know I'll drop the drivers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► keyboard I love that idea that Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► kind of branch from the talk show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:14 ◼ ► then wrote up a big post I love the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7634">TS</a>]
02:07:15 ◼ ► of the trackpad that's only used for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7635">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► like cursor move that's an awesome idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:19 ◼ ► I don't think they're going to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7639">TS</a>]
02:07:21 ◼ ► this year but maybe in the future hey no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7641">TS</a>]
02:07:25 ◼ ► and then the pencil I would love to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7645">TS</a>]
02:07:29 ◼ ► improvements for the pencil first you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7649">TS</a>]
02:07:32 ◼ ► know that the smallest improved the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7652">TS</a>]
02:07:34 ◼ ► biggest gain for me would be if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7654">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► were some easier better way to carry the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:39 ◼ ► pencil with the iPad maybe a sequel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7659">TS</a>]
02:07:43 ◼ ► the keyboard cover could have a pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7663">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► slot somewhere it maybe I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:47 ◼ ► unlikely but something that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7667">TS</a>]
02:07:49 ◼ ► likely with today's Apple that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7669">TS</a>]
02:07:52 ◼ ► maybe the pencil two gets better battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7672">TS</a>]
02:07:56 ◼ ► life that's not bad a chart is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7676">TS</a>]
02:07:59 ◼ ► fast it's bad if you don't constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7679">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► use it but you carry it around with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:04 ◼ ► then the battery life is really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7684">TS</a>]
02:08:07 ◼ ► because it's it the pencil has no on/off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7687">TS</a>]
02:08:13 ◼ ► intelligently manage its power state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7693">TS</a>]
02:08:17 ◼ ► proximity to your iPad if you carry it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7697">TS</a>]
02:08:20 ◼ ► like in the same bag as your iPad or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7700">TS</a>]
02:08:22 ◼ ► it kind of hangs out like on a table or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7702">TS</a>]
02:08:23 ◼ ► counter next to your iPad the battery is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7703">TS</a>]
02:08:26 ◼ ► always dead because it's always like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7706">TS</a>]
02:08:28 ◼ ► nearby and kind of in motion and ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7708">TS</a>]
02:08:31 ◼ ► to get the alerts that tell you your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7711">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► pencil battery's running low and remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:34 ◼ ► you to plug it in sorry your battery is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7714">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► always alluring is it's 5% full so so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:39 ◼ ► it could really benefit from certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7719">TS</a>]
02:08:43 ◼ ► things that that I don't think Johnny I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7723">TS</a>]
02:08:45 ◼ ► would ever add to it things like a power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7725">TS</a>]
02:08:46 ◼ ► switch I think it would strongly benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7726">TS</a>]
02:08:48 ◼ ► from a power switch I don't see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7728">TS</a>]
02:08:50 ◼ ► what do you think about smart connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7730">TS</a>]
02:08:54 ◼ ► Microsoft Surface II style things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7734">TS</a>]
02:08:55 ◼ ► because that's I agree that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7735">TS</a>]
02:08:57 ◼ ► problem like what the hell do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7737">TS</a>]
02:08:58 ◼ ► with your pencil and I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7738">TS</a>]
02:08:59 ◼ ► solution is a bunch of loops or pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7739">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► in cases to shove it in I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:03 ◼ ► able to magnetically clip it hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7743">TS</a>]
02:09:05 ◼ ► in a way that is still charging the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7745">TS</a>]
02:09:07 ◼ ► thing but I mean they could have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7747">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► that in the original reason they decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:10 ◼ ► not to which makes me think they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7750">TS</a>]
02:09:11 ◼ ► want to put holes in the side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7751">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► precious pencil to deal with the smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:13 ◼ ► connector like is it sitting right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7753">TS</a>]
02:09:15 ◼ ► it's a place that provides power that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7755">TS</a>]
02:09:18 ◼ ► has a magnetic connection points but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7758">TS</a>]
02:09:19 ◼ ► it's just too big and unwieldy for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7759">TS</a>]
02:09:21 ◼ ► to ward up their phone with it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7761">TS</a>]
02:09:23 ◼ ► also think that there's got to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7763">TS</a>]
02:09:25 ◼ ► better solution for charging than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7765">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► little you know the little spiny horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► that we when you plug the pencil into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:35 ◼ ► arrangement of hardware yeah I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7775">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► depends well right now is it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► embodies much of the the skeptical take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:45 ◼ ► of Johnny I've design where it it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7785">TS</a>]
02:09:48 ◼ ► like a beautiful object in isolation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7788">TS</a>]
02:09:51 ◼ ► the way you have to actually use it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7791">TS</a>]
02:09:52 ◼ ► lots of design flaws one of them is yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7792">TS</a>]
02:09:55 ◼ ► it does still roll it is weighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7795">TS</a>]
02:09:57 ◼ ► doesn't roll very far sometimes but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7797">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► does roll the biggest design flaw by far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:02 ◼ ► for me is that cap that cap on the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7802">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► that is very easily lost if you drop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► it will break the ring will pop out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:10 ◼ ► it and it the fact that you then while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7810">TS</a>]
02:10:13 ◼ ► charging it have to take this cap off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7813">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► and you have nowhere to put it it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:17 ◼ ► captive in any way it doesn't hang on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7817">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► anything doesn't go anywhere so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:20 ◼ ► just begging to be lost as you charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7820">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► the pencil not to mention you know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:25 ◼ ► the aforementioned way you charge the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7825">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► pencil you know either you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:29 ◼ ► this weird like you know gender change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7829">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► somewhere ah running cables somewhere to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► charge it from a cable and you then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:37 ◼ ► have another tiny white precious thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7837">TS</a>]
02:10:39 ◼ ► that you can easily lose because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7839">TS</a>]
02:10:40 ◼ ► nowhere to keep it or you do the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7840">TS</a>]
02:10:42 ◼ ► where you shove it into the bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7842">TS</a>]
02:10:43 ◼ ► your iPad and have it sticking out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7843">TS</a>]
02:10:45 ◼ ► as you mentioned it's kind of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7845">TS</a>]
02:10:46 ◼ ► looking and really seems very dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7846">TS</a>]
02:10:49 ◼ ► and it's very unnerving and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7849">TS</a>]
02:10:50 ◼ ► charge as quickly so they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7850">TS</a>]
02:10:52 ◼ ► charging the Apple pencil is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7852">TS</a>]
02:10:55 ◼ ► series of frustration and and form over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7855">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► and the this would be alleviated largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:07 ◼ ► if they could have one that didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7867">TS</a>]
02:11:09 ◼ ► to be charged as often so and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7869">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► it's much more likely than Johnny I of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:15 ◼ ► adding buttons or reasonable charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7875">TS</a>]
02:11:18 ◼ ► magnetically attached to everything a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7878">TS</a>]
02:11:19 ◼ ► lot to my negative the Smart Cover if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7879">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► you have one a lot of mine edit a CH to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:23 ◼ ► the actual device if you don't have it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7883">TS</a>]
02:11:25 ◼ ► want it to inductively charge through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7885">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► those things lady great doesn't that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:28 ◼ ► not coming I think they're they're are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7888">TS</a>]
02:11:29 ◼ ► pretty strong rumors of an actual pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7889">TS</a>]
02:11:31 ◼ ► revision right I forget what the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7891">TS</a>]
02:11:34 ◼ ► rumored things that they were improving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7894">TS</a>]
02:11:35 ◼ ► about it may be that the charging thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7895">TS</a>]
02:11:37 ◼ ► was changed but all of our wish lists or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7897">TS</a>]
02:11:39 ◼ ► pencils is surely not coming because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7899">TS</a>]
02:11:41 ◼ ► again like it's not like this smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7901">TS</a>]
02:11:44 ◼ ► connector didn't exist when the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7904">TS</a>]
02:11:45 ◼ ► came out it did and they chose not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7905">TS</a>]
02:11:47 ◼ ► use it for various reasons so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7907">TS</a>]
02:11:49 ◼ ► see them changing their mind than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7909">TS</a>]
02:11:50 ◼ ► but but yeah like the board you'd call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7910">TS</a>]
02:11:55 ◼ ► it the logistics the packaging the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7915">TS</a>]
02:11:57 ◼ ► in marco camera parlance the handling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7917">TS</a>]
02:11:59 ◼ ► the pencil is pretty awful yeah like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7919">TS</a>]
02:12:01 ◼ ► what the smart connector is wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7921">TS</a>]
02:12:03 ◼ ► one of the reasons why i enjoy the smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7923">TS</a>]
02:12:05 ◼ ► connector keyboard so much is that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7925">TS</a>]
02:12:08 ◼ ► never have to worry about its power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7928">TS</a>]
02:12:10 ◼ ► state when it's connected it's on it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7930">TS</a>]
02:12:14 ◼ ► no battery life it's amazing like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7934">TS</a>]
02:12:16 ◼ ► when I'm using my iPad I want you to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7936">TS</a>]
02:12:19 ◼ ► keyboard I can just use the keyboard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7939">TS</a>]
02:12:21 ◼ ► never have to think about it I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7941">TS</a>]
02:12:23 ◼ ► have to wait for it to charge I never go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7943">TS</a>]
02:12:25 ◼ ► to it and find it uncharged it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7945">TS</a>]
02:12:27 ◼ ► it's a thing that is no longer a concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7947">TS</a>]
02:12:29 ◼ ► and so anything that can bring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7949">TS</a>]
02:12:32 ◼ ► pencil closer to that would be a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7952">TS</a>]
02:12:34 ◼ ► upgrade for everyday pencil usability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7954">TS</a>]
02:12:40 ◼ ► I don't think so again I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7960">TS</a>]
02:12:42 ◼ ► the iPad event for the year I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7962">TS</a>]
02:12:44 ◼ ► expect to see like if the 10-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7964">TS</a>]
02:12:46 ◼ ► whatever inch iPad is announced you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7966">TS</a>]
02:12:48 ◼ ► next week I would not expect to see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7968">TS</a>]
02:12:51 ◼ ► other iPad hardware release this year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7971">TS</a>]
02:12:53 ◼ ► think this will absolutely be the WDC of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7973">TS</a>]
02:12:57 ◼ ► iPad software I will go on record as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7977">TS</a>]
02:13:00 ◼ ► saying I do not think we're going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7980">TS</a>]
02:13:01 ◼ ► hardware I think it'll be in the fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7981">TS</a>]
02:13:06 ◼ ► iPhone obviously no new hardware that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7986">TS</a>]
02:13:09 ◼ ► gentleman involved yeah if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7989">TS</a>]
02:13:11 ◼ ► about like like kind of what we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7991">TS</a>]
02:13:12 ◼ ► pushed to the fall I think makes for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7992">TS</a>]
02:13:14 ◼ ► pretty good event so like what we push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7994">TS</a>]
02:13:17 ◼ ► is iPhone Hardware almost certainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/7997">TS</a>]
02:13:22 ◼ ► IMAX Navy Mac Pro info but probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8002">TS</a>]
02:13:26 ◼ ► and then you know we haven't talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8006">TS</a>]
02:13:28 ◼ ► about the watch or TV yet my best guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8008">TS</a>]
02:13:31 ◼ ► is that watch and TV both have hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8011">TS</a>]
02:13:34 ◼ ► in the fall and then there also might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8014">TS</a>]
02:13:37 ◼ ► things like the rumor to Apple pay peer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8017">TS</a>]
02:13:39 ◼ ► to peer thing where you can pay people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8019">TS</a>]
02:13:41 ◼ ► directly with Apple pay so if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8021">TS</a>]
02:13:43 ◼ ► about that that could be a fall event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8023">TS</a>]
02:13:44 ◼ ► right there new iPhone massive iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8024">TS</a>]
02:13:47 ◼ ► year right so new iPhone is most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8027">TS</a>]
02:13:49 ◼ ► event person-to-person Apple pay minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8029">TS</a>]
02:13:52 ◼ ► revision to the watch 4k Apple TV with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8032">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► 4k iTunes content and IMAX that's a fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8035">TS</a>]
02:13:59 ◼ ► event so you don't need like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8039">TS</a>]
02:14:03 ◼ ► everything else into that like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8043">TS</a>]
02:14:04 ◼ ► enough right there yeah I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8044">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► iPads have gotta fall only if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:08 ◼ ► not ready yeah I don't think they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8048">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► delay them for the you know I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:12 ◼ ► would announce them I think if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8052">TS</a>]
02:14:13 ◼ ► going to ship anytime in the next like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8053">TS</a>]
02:14:14 ◼ ► three months but if they're not then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8054">TS</a>]
02:14:19 ◼ ► all right so software for the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8059">TS</a>]
02:14:22 ◼ ► anything the content deals is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8062">TS</a>]
02:14:25 ◼ ► care about because like the software and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8065">TS</a>]
02:14:28 ◼ ► the remote suck and we all hate them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8068">TS</a>]
02:14:29 ◼ ► we have complaints but like what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8069">TS</a>]
02:14:32 ◼ ► that device more or less valuable if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8072">TS</a>]
02:14:34 ◼ ► they're not going to change the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8074">TS</a>]
02:14:36 ◼ ► it's not as if they can put another new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8076">TS</a>]
02:14:39 ◼ ► interface it's all about the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8079">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► it's all about and I suppose the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► software thing they could do is say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:43 ◼ ► remember that single sign-on thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8083">TS</a>]
02:14:45 ◼ ► we touted and no one signed up for well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8085">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► we got some and some of the important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:49 ◼ ► that's that feel like the only big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8089">TS</a>]
02:14:51 ◼ ► software win that they could trot out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8091">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► that would have an appreciable effect on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8093">TS</a>]
02:14:55 ◼ ► the life of people who were newly buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8095">TS</a>]
02:14:58 ◼ ► Apple TVs but to not have to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8098">TS</a>]
02:15:00 ◼ ► that sign and type these letters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8100">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► appear on your whatever thing yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:05 ◼ ► think TV it's gonna be I think a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8105">TS</a>]
02:15:07 ◼ ► quiet year for the TV for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8107">TS</a>]
02:15:10 ◼ ► at least for the summer I would expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8110">TS</a>]
02:15:13 ◼ ► maybe announcements of new content deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8113">TS</a>]
02:15:16 ◼ ► maybe we'll hear about that Amazon deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8116">TS</a>]
02:15:17 ◼ ► who knows they'll announce some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8117">TS</a>]
02:15:19 ◼ ► partners that are all that have all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8119">TS</a>]
02:15:21 ◼ ► cable companies and TV providers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8121">TS</a>]
02:15:23 ◼ ► none of us subscribe to I know now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8123">TS</a>]
02:15:25 ◼ ► can get to all these things with the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8125">TS</a>]
02:15:26 ◼ ► app but you still can't get to Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8126">TS</a>]
02:15:27 ◼ ► or whatever you know it's gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8127">TS</a>]
02:15:29 ◼ ► moderate pace of the TV app thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8129">TS</a>]
02:15:31 ◼ ► they're going to really push it hard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8131">TS</a>]
02:15:32 ◼ ► it's going to not have a lot behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8132">TS</a>]
02:15:34 ◼ ► and all of the you know what it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8134">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► minute ago like I I do expect this to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:39 ◼ ► the year of a new Apple TV hardware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8139">TS</a>]
02:15:42 ◼ ► can almost certainly play 4k video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8142">TS</a>]
02:15:44 ◼ ► would probably then at the event come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8144">TS</a>]
02:15:47 ◼ ► with announcement of 4k content deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8147">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► with both iTunes and maybe other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:51 ◼ ► like Netflix and Amazon but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8151">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► expect that to be in the fall event not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:55 ◼ ► this not next week so very quiet on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8155">TS</a>]
02:15:58 ◼ ► TV OS front is my prediction I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8158">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► expect any like massive new api's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:03 ◼ ► developers or anything honestly I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8163">TS</a>]
02:16:05 ◼ ► the developer story for TV OS has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8165">TS</a>]
02:16:09 ◼ ► largely not panned out and I think at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8169">TS</a>]
02:16:11 ◼ ► this point it's pretty clear it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8171">TS</a>]
02:16:13 ◼ ► isn't going to largely pan out I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8173">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► it's pretty much done and limited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:17 ◼ ► major video apps and a very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8177">TS</a>]
02:16:21 ◼ ► handful of games anytime they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8181">TS</a>]
02:16:24 ◼ ► 24 frames per second output on the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8184">TS</a>]
02:16:26 ◼ ► TV missing that waiting for them you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8186">TS</a>]
02:16:28 ◼ ► do you don't have to do two 4k you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8188">TS</a>]
02:16:29 ◼ ► do it on the old model anytime my bug my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8189">TS</a>]
02:16:33 ◼ ► my radar that I found for that I checked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8193">TS</a>]
02:16:34 ◼ ► is still sitting there marked his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8194">TS</a>]
02:16:36 ◼ ► duplicate never to be heard from again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8196">TS</a>]
02:16:38 ◼ ► as with all things radar watch OS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8198">TS</a>]
02:16:42 ◼ ► would expect just a small evolution of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8202">TS</a>]
02:16:44 ◼ ► what we're used to kind of a deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8204">TS</a>]
02:16:46 ◼ ► prioritization of apps a a continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8206">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► prioritization notifications and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:51 ◼ ► like that are we going to get watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8211">TS</a>]
02:16:53 ◼ ► faces this year I say no I had that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8213">TS</a>]
02:16:55 ◼ ► stretch goal I cuz I maybe III wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8215">TS</a>]
02:16:58 ◼ ► maybe in italics maybe third party watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8218">TS</a>]
02:17:01 ◼ ► faces but I think it's unlikely and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8221">TS</a>]
02:17:06 ◼ ► think to like you know again is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8226">TS</a>]
02:17:08 ◼ ► a pretty quiet year for watch OS 2 last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8228">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► year was a big year they had a lot to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:12 ◼ ► and they really did it last year that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8232">TS</a>]
02:17:14 ◼ ► with watch OS 3 that was a major update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8234">TS</a>]
02:17:15 ◼ ► solved a lot of the watch's major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8235">TS</a>]
02:17:18 ◼ ► problems in a pretty good way so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8238">TS</a>]
02:17:21 ◼ ► year I I would be surprised if we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8241">TS</a>]
02:17:24 ◼ ► more major progress I feel like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8244">TS</a>]
02:17:27 ◼ ► probably going to be like a down year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8247">TS</a>]
02:17:28 ◼ ► for now maybe they'll do something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8248">TS</a>]
02:17:31 ◼ ► you know improve the design of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8251">TS</a>]
02:17:33 ◼ ► the weird honeycomb app screen or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8253">TS</a>]
02:17:35 ◼ ► know maybe let something like third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8255">TS</a>]
02:17:37 ◼ ► party watch faces but I think the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8257">TS</a>]
02:17:39 ◼ ► likely long-term goal is to add features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8259">TS</a>]
02:17:45 ◼ ► dim clock mode or things like sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8265">TS</a>]
02:17:48 ◼ ► tracking or you know the rumor diabetes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8268">TS</a>]
02:17:50 ◼ ► tracking thing whether that's a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8270">TS</a>]
02:17:52 ◼ ► add-on or whether it's part of the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8272">TS</a>]
02:17:53 ◼ ► who knows but all of these things would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8273">TS</a>]
02:17:55 ◼ ► require new hardware like they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8275">TS</a>]
02:17:57 ◼ ► going to add a new like always-on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8277">TS</a>]
02:18:00 ◼ ► mode that the current models don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8280">TS</a>]
02:18:02 ◼ ► the battery power to do and still have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8282">TS</a>]
02:18:05 ◼ ► good battery life like all day and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8285">TS</a>]
02:18:07 ◼ ► think the having the screen always be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8287">TS</a>]
02:18:10 ◼ ► even to a very dim level and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8290">TS</a>]
02:18:12 ◼ ► nothing's animated and even if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8292">TS</a>]
02:18:13 ◼ ► hardly ever updates that's still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8293">TS</a>]
02:18:15 ◼ ► massive increase in power draw so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8295">TS</a>]
02:18:18 ◼ ► guessing the current models probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8298">TS</a>]
02:18:21 ◼ ► can't do that and still have good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8301">TS</a>]
02:18:22 ◼ ► battery life for anything else so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8302">TS</a>]
02:18:25 ◼ ► guessing that all that stuff would wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8305">TS</a>]
02:18:27 ◼ ► for new hardware we should almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8307">TS</a>]
02:18:29 ◼ ► certainly be in the fall not now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8309">TS</a>]
02:18:32 ◼ ► can fix your audio player API is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8312">TS</a>]
02:18:34 ◼ ► your audio dreams right like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8314">TS</a>]
02:18:36 ◼ ► wouldn't be in the keynote obviously but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8316">TS</a>]
02:18:37 ◼ ► that could happen to the BBC for watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8317">TS</a>]
02:18:39 ◼ ► OS relevant to you at least it could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8319">TS</a>]
02:18:41 ◼ ► know out man I would love if they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8321">TS</a>]
02:18:43 ◼ ► make if they would make it easier for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8323">TS</a>]
02:18:45 ◼ ► to make a good watch app because right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8325">TS</a>]
02:18:50 ◼ ► like with local playback it's okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8330">TS</a>]
02:18:52 ◼ ► it could be good if they would you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8332">TS</a>]
02:18:55 ◼ ► bring over a few more of the iOS audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8335">TS</a>]
02:18:58 ◼ ► api's things like getting remote control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8338">TS</a>]
02:19:00 ◼ ► events from headphones you could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8340">TS</a>]
02:19:02 ◼ ► use the play pause or back forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8342">TS</a>]
02:19:04 ◼ ► buttons on your headphones and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8344">TS</a>]
02:19:05 ◼ ► would actually control it a volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8345">TS</a>]
02:19:07 ◼ ► control of the system volume level not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8347">TS</a>]
02:19:09 ◼ ► just the like local app zero to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8349">TS</a>]
02:19:12 ◼ ► volume level that I have now any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8352">TS</a>]
02:19:15 ◼ ► now playing center access like you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8355">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► you have on on the mat or on iOS rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:20 ◼ ► there's lots of things they could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8360">TS</a>]
02:19:24 ◼ ► probably a really low priority for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8364">TS</a>]
02:19:26 ◼ ► because I don't I don't think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8366">TS</a>]
02:19:29 ◼ ► priority that doesn't have to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8369">TS</a>]
02:19:31 ◼ ► health or notifications and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8371">TS</a>]
02:19:34 ◼ ► probably with good reason because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8374">TS</a>]
02:19:35 ◼ ► are the things that almost everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8375">TS</a>]
02:19:36 ◼ ► using their watch for those are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8376">TS</a>]
02:19:38 ◼ ► things that the watch is really good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8378">TS</a>]
02:19:39 ◼ ► so I think those things get priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8379">TS</a>]
02:19:41 ◼ ► everything else is probably pretty far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8381">TS</a>]
02:19:44 ◼ ► down the list pretty secondary so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8384">TS</a>]
02:19:46 ◼ ► wouldn't expect a lot of motion there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8386">TS</a>]
02:19:47 ◼ ► where I forget if you had thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8387">TS</a>]
02:19:50 ◼ ► watch where does the watch go like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8390">TS</a>]
02:19:52 ◼ ► rumored watch with the special bands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8392">TS</a>]
02:19:55 ◼ ► you know the next heart watch hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8395">TS</a>]
02:19:57 ◼ ► vision is I go to the fall it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8397">TS</a>]
02:19:58 ◼ ► next year I suspect fall and whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8398">TS</a>]
02:20:02 ◼ ► it's going to have like you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8402">TS</a>]
02:20:03 ◼ ► fancy blood sugar one or whether that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8403">TS</a>]
02:20:07 ◼ ► you know a separate thing I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8407">TS</a>]
02:20:09 ◼ ► I have no idea that they're from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8409">TS</a>]
02:20:12 ◼ ► who've been writing about this recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8412">TS</a>]
02:20:13 ◼ ► it seems like that's a ridiculously hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8413">TS</a>]
02:20:14 ◼ ► problem to solve and many companies have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8414">TS</a>]
02:20:16 ◼ ► tried and it takes a very long time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8416">TS</a>]
02:20:18 ◼ ► it wouldn't surprise me if that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8418">TS</a>]
02:20:20 ◼ ► doesn't come soon but they they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8420">TS</a>]
02:20:23 ◼ ► watch his last fall and so if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8423">TS</a>]
02:20:25 ◼ ► going to do something that would require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8425">TS</a>]
02:20:27 ◼ ► new hardware with the watch platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8427">TS</a>]
02:20:30 ◼ ► things like sleep tracking or always on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8430">TS</a>]
02:20:33 ◼ ► face of so that you could like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8433">TS</a>]
02:20:34 ◼ ► that need that would need better battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8434">TS</a>]
02:20:37 ◼ ► I think this fall is a totally plausible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8437">TS</a>]
02:20:39 ◼ ► and reasonable time to do that not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8439">TS</a>]
02:20:41 ◼ ► mention the fact that it's usually a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8441">TS</a>]
02:20:43 ◼ ► holiday seller the watch sells a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8443">TS</a>]
02:20:45 ◼ ► over the holidays even more so than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8445">TS</a>]
02:20:46 ◼ ► phones and iPads I think from based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8446">TS</a>]
02:20:48 ◼ ► little bits and pieces I'm able to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8448">TS</a>]
02:20:49 ◼ ► up here and there it's it's the new iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8449">TS</a>]
02:20:51 ◼ ► yeah it is that it is a massive holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8451">TS</a>]
02:20:53 ◼ ► seller so it would make sense for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8453">TS</a>]
02:20:55 ◼ ► to really try to get updates out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8455">TS</a>]
02:20:56 ◼ ► in the fall event for right in time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8456">TS</a>]
02:20:58 ◼ ► the holiday shopping I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8458">TS</a>]
02:21:00 ◼ ► everything you said Marco all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8460">TS</a>]
02:21:03 ◼ ► to kind of round this out and in and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8463">TS</a>]
02:21:06 ◼ ► episode maybe some I don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8466">TS</a>]
02:21:09 ◼ ► describe up a like some touchy-feely or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8469">TS</a>]
02:21:11 ◼ ► like hey we're not done we're not here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8471">TS</a>]
02:21:12 ◼ ► yet we talked about services oh god this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8472">TS</a>]
02:21:16 ◼ ► is the show that will not and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8476">TS</a>]
02:21:19 ◼ ► okay well services I think continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8479">TS</a>]
02:21:22 ◼ ► push to iCloud all the things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8482">TS</a>]
02:21:25 ◼ ► continued grumbling from everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8485">TS</a>]
02:21:26 ◼ ► involved about how successful that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8486">TS</a>]
02:21:28 ◼ ► be yeah and so basically my list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8488">TS</a>]
02:21:31 ◼ ► services includes logs have already said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8491">TS</a>]
02:21:33 ◼ ► things like have you pushed towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8493">TS</a>]
02:21:34 ◼ ► iCloud storage and getting you to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8494">TS</a>]
02:21:36 ◼ ► those plans massive push to Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8496">TS</a>]
02:21:39 ◼ ► I think you know it's going to be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8499">TS</a>]
02:21:43 ◼ ► always is going to Apple users going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8503">TS</a>]
02:21:45 ◼ ► get a lot of keynote time it might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8505">TS</a>]
02:21:48 ◼ ► all be it might be it might not go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8508">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► smoothly but it's gonna be a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:52 ◼ ► keynote I'm I expected to get another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8512">TS</a>]
02:21:53 ◼ ► redesign it's still gonna be confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8513">TS</a>]
02:21:55 ◼ ► but I think the keynote time would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8515">TS</a>]
02:21:59 ◼ ► television shows right this isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8519">TS</a>]
02:22:02 ◼ ► the pitch now like it's Apple music come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8522">TS</a>]
02:22:05 ◼ ► for our TV shows what yeah right so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8525">TS</a>]
02:22:11 ◼ ► credibly heavy-handed promotion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8531">TS</a>]
02:22:14 ◼ ► planet of the apps and carpool karaoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8534">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► and anything else they might be what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:18 ◼ ► they might want to announce any new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8538">TS</a>]
02:22:19 ◼ ► productions that you to but you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8539">TS</a>]
02:22:21 ◼ ► think you're making a joke about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8541">TS</a>]
02:22:23 ◼ ► music app redesign you really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8543">TS</a>]
02:22:24 ◼ ► that's gonna happen again no I really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8544">TS</a>]
02:22:25 ◼ ► really think having and III think in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8545">TS</a>]
02:22:28 ◼ ► music app redesign is the new iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8548">TS</a>]
02:22:29 ◼ ► redesign like it's gonna happen just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8549">TS</a>]
02:22:31 ◼ ► every year it's never gonna because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8551">TS</a>]
02:22:35 ◼ ► mean I have to disable connect to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8555">TS</a>]
02:22:36 ◼ ► toolbar again probably or whatever new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8556">TS</a>]
02:22:39 ◼ ► social network they long to this time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8559">TS</a>]
02:22:45 ◼ ► heavy-handed promotion of their athletic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8565">TS</a>]
02:22:47 ◼ ► shows of athletic itself at least one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8567">TS</a>]
02:22:50 ◼ ► really awkward skit or video it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8570">TS</a>]
02:22:55 ◼ ► something just really heavy-handed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8575">TS</a>]
02:22:57 ◼ ► awkward I hope there is just not time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8577">TS</a>]
02:22:59 ◼ ► for this in the keynote not that I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8579">TS</a>]
02:23:01 ◼ ► that it doesn't come but I really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8581">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► that there is not time oh they'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:04 ◼ ► time beyond that iCloud drive I expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8584">TS</a>]
02:23:09 ◼ ► as I said I could to be a big focus I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8589">TS</a>]
02:23:11 ◼ ► hoping that comes with some additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8591">TS</a>]
02:23:13 ◼ ► features one of the big things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8593">TS</a>]
02:23:16 ◼ ► iCloud Drive when I used it for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8596">TS</a>]
02:23:18 ◼ ► I I am now back on Dropbox just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8598">TS</a>]
02:23:20 ◼ ► various workflow reasons but when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8600">TS</a>]
02:23:23 ◼ ► using only iCloud Drive for those for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8603">TS</a>]
02:23:24 ◼ ► that month or two the the biggest things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8604">TS</a>]
02:23:27 ◼ ► I missed were shared folders and public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8607">TS</a>]
02:23:30 ◼ ► share links for files that I could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8610">TS</a>]
02:23:32 ◼ ► like get a Cheryl into this file and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8612">TS</a>]
02:23:33 ◼ ► Center to somebody and shared folders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8613">TS</a>]
02:23:36 ◼ ► for things like let me show this folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8616">TS</a>]
02:23:37 ◼ ► with you guys and we can drop files here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8617">TS</a>]
02:23:39 ◼ ► we're coming together this summe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8619">TS</a>]
02:23:41 ◼ ► Dropbox and its competitors have offered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8621">TS</a>]
02:23:42 ◼ ► basically forever it's a really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8622">TS</a>]
02:23:45 ◼ ► feature it's not easy to do these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8625">TS</a>]
02:23:48 ◼ ► but if Apple added share links and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8628">TS</a>]
02:23:51 ◼ ► shared folders those are major steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8631">TS</a>]
02:23:54 ◼ ► towards a lot more people being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8634">TS</a>]
02:23:57 ◼ ► use iCloud Drive as their primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8637">TS</a>]
02:23:59 ◼ ► document sync thing and to replace or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8639">TS</a>]
02:24:02 ◼ ► never even use in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8642">TS</a>]
02:24:03 ◼ ► things like Dropbox so that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8643">TS</a>]
02:24:06 ◼ ► hope they add that that is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8646">TS</a>]
02:24:09 ◼ ► within the realm of possibility you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8649">TS</a>]
02:24:11 ◼ ► these these are the kinds of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8651">TS</a>]
02:24:14 ◼ ► aggressively or well but they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8654">TS</a>]
02:24:17 ◼ ► have the concept of shared editing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8657">TS</a>]
02:24:19 ◼ ► notes and there are shared photo albums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8659">TS</a>]
02:24:22 ◼ ► and photos so like there is this concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8662">TS</a>]
02:24:25 ◼ ► like inviting people to collaborate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8665">TS</a>]
02:24:27 ◼ ► you on a resource that is in iCloud they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8667">TS</a>]
02:24:29 ◼ ► have this infrastructure already in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8669">TS</a>]
02:24:31 ◼ ► certain places let's get one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8671">TS</a>]
02:24:33 ◼ ► let's get shared folders in iCloud Drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8673">TS</a>]
02:24:35 ◼ ► and I'd actually say the shared folders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8675">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► are more likely if than to do than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:39 ◼ ► public share links for files that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8679">TS</a>]
02:24:44 ◼ ► allergic to the web yeah and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8684">TS</a>]
02:24:46 ◼ ► and it has piracy concerns and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8686">TS</a>]
02:24:48 ◼ ► like that so like there I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8688">TS</a>]
02:24:50 ◼ ► that's that myth less likely but shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8690">TS</a>]
02:24:52 ◼ ► folders would be a huge thing I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8692">TS</a>]
02:24:54 ◼ ► hope they do that I'm still terrified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8694">TS</a>]
02:24:56 ◼ ► about cloud drive hit me - I also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8696">TS</a>]
02:24:59 ◼ ► - also a one thing they might do for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8699">TS</a>]
02:25:02 ◼ ► cloud drive is time machine you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8702">TS</a>]
02:25:04 ◼ ► because a lot of the other services like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8704">TS</a>]
02:25:07 ◼ ► this have versioning for the files some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8707">TS</a>]
02:25:08 ◼ ► kind of like recovery or point in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8708">TS</a>]
02:25:10 ◼ ► or reversion enforces that are stored in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8710">TS</a>]
02:25:12 ◼ ► things like Dropbox it would be nice if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8712">TS</a>]
02:25:14 ◼ ► they had that in iCloud Drive and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8714">TS</a>]
02:25:16 ◼ ► don't know so playing catch-up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8716">TS</a>]
02:25:18 ◼ ► company that refused to be purchased by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8718">TS</a>]
02:25:20 ◼ ► them that they call just a feature back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8720">TS</a>]
02:25:21 ◼ ► when Steve Jobs is still alive here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8721">TS</a>]
02:25:23 ◼ ► are so many years later and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8723">TS</a>]
02:25:24 ◼ ► still catching up with that basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8724">TS</a>]
02:25:27 ◼ ► you know sometimes Jobs was wrong it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8727">TS</a>]
02:25:29 ◼ ► didn't you know you eg did try to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8729">TS</a>]
02:25:32 ◼ ► them like it's not it's more of a sour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8732">TS</a>]
02:25:34 ◼ ► grape situation they're like he's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8734">TS</a>]
02:25:36 ◼ ► it was trying to to bring down that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8736">TS</a>]
02:25:38 ◼ ► should be happy they were even talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8738">TS</a>]
02:25:40 ◼ ► to you you think it's just a feature but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8740">TS</a>]
02:25:41 ◼ ► they were interested in buying them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8741">TS</a>]
02:25:43 ◼ ► it's not like he was really saying your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8743">TS</a>]
02:25:44 ◼ ► thing is yeah he was trying to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8744">TS</a>]
02:25:46 ◼ ► for a good price yeah it's yeah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8746">TS</a>]
02:25:49 ◼ ► definitely think it could benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8749">TS</a>]
02:25:51 ◼ ► strongly from these things if when if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8751">TS</a>]
02:25:54 ◼ ► they call this time machine for iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8754">TS</a>]
02:25:56 ◼ ► drive versus they called it versioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8756">TS</a>]
02:25:58 ◼ ► who knows doesn't matter if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8758">TS</a>]
02:25:59 ◼ ► confused that's confusing poll say or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8759">TS</a>]
02:26:04 ◼ ► Schofield but I do a little bit yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8764">TS</a>]
02:26:08 ◼ ► interface is so boring and good then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8768">TS</a>]
02:26:12 ◼ ► what it doesn't work is less exciting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8772">TS</a>]
02:26:13 ◼ ► also think service wise photos should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8773">TS</a>]
02:26:18 ◼ ► and probably will have finally sinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8778">TS</a>]
02:26:24 ◼ ► recognition in a faces place as all its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8784">TS</a>]
02:26:26 ◼ ► as we as we talked about last week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8786">TS</a>]
02:26:28 ◼ ► also think that it is very likely we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8788">TS</a>]
02:26:31 ◼ ► going to see a little bit of promotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8791">TS</a>]
02:26:33 ◼ ► for Apple news it's a thing that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8793">TS</a>]
02:26:36 ◼ ► launch that I know it is it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8796">TS</a>]
02:26:39 ◼ ► it's I don't think it's going massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8799">TS</a>]
02:26:41 ◼ ► quickly there so I think we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8801">TS</a>]
02:26:43 ◼ ► see a little you know some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8803">TS</a>]
02:26:45 ◼ ► improvements here and they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8805">TS</a>]
02:26:47 ◼ ► push us to use a little bit more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8807">TS</a>]
02:26:48 ◼ ► finally in my services category I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8808">TS</a>]
02:26:52 ◼ ► we're gonna see stretch goal here group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8812">TS</a>]
02:26:55 ◼ ► FaceTime finally we've had a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8815">TS</a>]
02:26:58 ◼ ► couple little rumors here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8818">TS</a>]
02:26:59 ◼ ► teachers been talking about it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8819">TS</a>]
02:27:01 ◼ ► over the last like year I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8821">TS</a>]
02:27:03 ◼ ► finally the time for group FaceTime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8823">TS</a>]
02:27:05 ◼ ► here's hoping that that gets in we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8825">TS</a>]
02:27:11 ◼ ► you know that's now and speaking of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8831">TS</a>]
02:27:15 ◼ ► cha I know this is like a dorky thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8835">TS</a>]
02:27:16 ◼ ► but I would like to be able to share a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8836">TS</a>]
02:27:17 ◼ ► document in the old neo parlance write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8837">TS</a>]
02:27:19 ◼ ► multiple people and also hey let's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8839">TS</a>]
02:27:22 ◼ ► look at this photo together like to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8842">TS</a>]
02:27:23 ◼ ► a photo from photos so we can all see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8843">TS</a>]
02:27:25 ◼ ► right that's a feature that I frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8845">TS</a>]
02:27:27 ◼ ► wish for and maybe that be part of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8847">TS</a>]
02:27:30 ◼ ► the whole filed collaboration or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8850">TS</a>]
02:27:34 ◼ ► aberration just wants it like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8854">TS</a>]
02:27:36 ◼ ► tell you how many times I pointed one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8856">TS</a>]
02:27:37 ◼ ► iOS a device of the screen of another to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8857">TS</a>]
02:27:39 ◼ ► like show my parents who I'm facetiming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8859">TS</a>]
02:27:41 ◼ ► with a photo yeah so they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8861">TS</a>]
02:27:44 ◼ ► like leave the app and like because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8864">TS</a>]
02:27:45 ◼ ► can't do by the way it's like weird you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8865">TS</a>]
02:27:47 ◼ ► know we have technology here I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8867">TS</a>]
02:27:48 ◼ ► able to put throw a photo up here yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8868">TS</a>]
02:27:49 ◼ ► that that sounds like the most key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8869">TS</a>]
02:27:51 ◼ ► noteworthy feature of all the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8871">TS</a>]
02:27:52 ◼ ► things because I really hope they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8872">TS</a>]
02:27:53 ◼ ► talk about Apple music but multi-person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8873">TS</a>]
02:27:55 ◼ ► FaceTime so easy demo crowd-pleaser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8875">TS</a>]
02:27:58 ◼ ► everybody loves it if they have it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8878">TS</a>]
02:28:00 ◼ ► a shoo-in for the keynote yeah and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8880">TS</a>]
02:28:02 ◼ ► finally my final prediction for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8882">TS</a>]
02:28:04 ◼ ► night I think we will hear absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8884">TS</a>]
02:28:06 ◼ ► nothing about iMessage apps they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8886">TS</a>]
02:28:11 ◼ ► they were announced last year they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8891">TS</a>]
02:28:13 ◼ ► launched we got some cool fun stickers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8893">TS</a>]
02:28:15 ◼ ► out of it but I think the the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8895">TS</a>]
02:28:17 ◼ ► platform itself beyond stickers has gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8897">TS</a>]
02:28:21 ◼ ► basically nowhere there's a small chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8901">TS</a>]
02:28:24 ◼ ► we might see stickers on the Mac in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8904">TS</a>]
02:28:27 ◼ ► next version of it Mac Mac iMessage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8907">TS</a>]
02:28:31 ◼ ► parody would be another thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8911">TS</a>]
02:28:33 ◼ ► won't do because they don't care that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8913">TS</a>]
02:28:34 ◼ ► much about the Mac right and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8914">TS</a>]
02:28:35 ◼ ► would never it would never get the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8915">TS</a>]
02:28:37 ◼ ► full-blown app platform I think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8917">TS</a>]
02:28:38 ◼ ► at best it would only get stickers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8918">TS</a>]
02:28:41 ◼ ► even that like I I just think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8921">TS</a>]
02:28:43 ◼ ► iMessage platform it ended up being kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8923">TS</a>]
02:28:47 ◼ ► of like the watch it ends up being used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8927">TS</a>]
02:28:53 ◼ ► of what I could do then what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8933">TS</a>]
02:28:55 ◼ ► they probably intended or guessed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8935">TS</a>]
02:28:57 ◼ ► they they massively over designed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8937">TS</a>]
02:29:00 ◼ ► system for apps you plug into iMessage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8940">TS</a>]
02:29:02 ◼ ► when in reality what most people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8942">TS</a>]
02:29:05 ◼ ► do is have a few stickers and call it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8945">TS</a>]
02:29:07 ◼ ► it doesn't and it's that hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8947">TS</a>]
02:29:12 ◼ ► cumbersome and unintuitive interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8952">TS</a>]
02:29:14 ◼ ► within messages to browse and add and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8954">TS</a>]
02:29:17 ◼ ► manage your different message apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8957">TS</a>]
02:29:19 ◼ ► there are there's room for that to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8959">TS</a>]
02:29:20 ◼ ► it a lot better and maybe this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8960">TS</a>]
02:29:22 ◼ ► change things but I don't think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8962">TS</a>]
02:29:23 ◼ ► think I changed things enough I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8963">TS</a>]
02:29:25 ◼ ► ultimately iMessage apps were a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8965">TS</a>]
02:29:29 ◼ ► that you know they tried but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8969">TS</a>]
02:29:33 ◼ ► similar to TV OS being like a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8973">TS</a>]
02:29:35 ◼ ► app platform I just don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8975">TS</a>]
02:29:37 ◼ ► really going anywhere you know I use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8977">TS</a>]
02:29:40 ◼ ► gift wrapped app in every capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8980">TS</a>]
02:29:43 ◼ ► including the iMessage app a lot I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8983">TS</a>]
02:29:46 ◼ ► really into stickers for like a day it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8986">TS</a>]
02:29:50 ◼ ► wasn't a day but it was very briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8990">TS</a>]
02:29:52 ◼ ► that I really enjoyed stickers and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8992">TS</a>]
02:29:54 ◼ ► almost find it surprising anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8994">TS</a>]
02:29:56 ◼ ► somebody uses one in a conversation I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8996">TS</a>]
02:29:58 ◼ ► in I don't have anything against them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/8998">TS</a>]
02:30:01 ◼ ► like I'm not opposed to them like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9001">TS</a>]
02:30:03 ◼ ► think a lot of people were when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9003">TS</a>]
02:30:04 ◼ ► when they first came out but I too have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9004">TS</a>]
02:30:07 ◼ ► been largely underwhelmed by iMessage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9007">TS</a>]
02:30:11 ◼ ► offerings with the exception of gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9011">TS</a>]
02:30:13 ◼ ► wrapped which is as perfect as it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9013">TS</a>]
02:30:16 ◼ ► given the world in which it lives I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9016">TS</a>]
02:30:19 ◼ ► in a lot of ways the iMessage I manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9019">TS</a>]
02:30:22 ◼ ► apps and watch apps and maybe even TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9022">TS</a>]
02:30:25 ◼ ► apps all suffer from the long-standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9025">TS</a>]
02:30:28 ◼ ► thing I always say which is don't fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9028">TS</a>]
02:30:29 ◼ ► against the smartphone or don't bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9029">TS</a>]
02:30:31 ◼ ► against the smartphone in most of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9031">TS</a>]
02:30:33 ◼ ► cases you could go and use this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9033">TS</a>]
02:30:36 ◼ ► kind of app for this app that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9036">TS</a>]
02:30:40 ◼ ► trying to do but in most of these cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9040">TS</a>]
02:30:42 ◼ ► it's easier and faster and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9042">TS</a>]
02:30:45 ◼ ► already in your head you already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9045">TS</a>]
02:30:46 ◼ ► the habits to just go launch the app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9046">TS</a>]
02:30:48 ◼ ► just do whatever you want to do from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9048">TS</a>]
02:30:50 ◼ ► app like from the main app rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9050">TS</a>]
02:30:52 ◼ ► go into these weird little extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9052">TS</a>]
02:30:54 ◼ ► points and doing stuff there like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9054">TS</a>]
02:30:56 ◼ ► are some cases where it makes sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9056">TS</a>]
02:30:57 ◼ ► do that but I think those those cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9057">TS</a>]
02:30:59 ◼ ► are a lot fewer and less lesser-used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9059">TS</a>]
02:31:06 ◼ ► that our guests when launching these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9066">TS</a>]
02:31:07 ◼ ► platforms and in reality like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9067">TS</a>]
02:31:10 ◼ ► every messages app I've seen that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9070">TS</a>]
02:31:12 ◼ ► stickers you could just do it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9072">TS</a>]
02:31:16 ◼ ► app almost as well if not better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9076">TS</a>]
02:31:19 ◼ ► that's turned that that's just what most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9079">TS</a>]
02:31:20 ◼ ► people do and and it is possible to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9080">TS</a>]
02:31:24 ◼ ► an awesome messages app but again like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9084">TS</a>]
02:31:26 ◼ ► the system of managing and installing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9086">TS</a>]
02:31:28 ◼ ► them and everything is so cumbersome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9088">TS</a>]
02:31:29 ◼ ► that a lot of people just don't do it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9089">TS</a>]
02:31:31 ◼ ► I think you know they're fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9091">TS</a>]
02:31:33 ◼ ► against the the convenience and inertia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9093">TS</a>]
02:31:37 ◼ ► of the full-blown app which everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9097">TS</a>]
02:31:40 ◼ ► knows how to do already and everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9100">TS</a>]
02:31:42 ◼ ► already using for these things it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9102">TS</a>]
02:31:43 ◼ ► I don't I feel like it's a losing battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9103">TS</a>]
02:31:45 ◼ ► there speaking of Casey and stickers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9105">TS</a>]
02:31:48 ◼ ► messages it reminds me of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9108">TS</a>]
02:31:50 ◼ ► feature of iOS that they do need to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9110">TS</a>]
02:31:52 ◼ ► that will benefit phone users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9112">TS</a>]
02:31:53 ◼ ► everybody emoji search FairPoint that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9113">TS</a>]
02:31:59 ◼ ► that would be animate crowd-pleaser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9119">TS</a>]
02:32:01 ◼ ► it's almost like they think they added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9121">TS</a>]
02:32:03 ◼ ► it when they added that thing where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9123">TS</a>]
02:32:04 ◼ ► suggests the emoji like oh we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9124">TS</a>]
02:32:06 ◼ ► mode you search just start typing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9126">TS</a>]
02:32:07 ◼ ► word and we'll give you the suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9127">TS</a>]
02:32:09 ◼ ► list of emojis and it's kind of true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9129">TS</a>]
02:32:12 ◼ ► that just feels like the wrong way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9132">TS</a>]
02:32:14 ◼ ► it like you know how many times I drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9134">TS</a>]
02:32:16 ◼ ► downward on the emoji picker expecting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9136">TS</a>]
02:32:18 ◼ ► search field to appear and forgetting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9138">TS</a>]
02:32:19 ◼ ► for the millionth time that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9139">TS</a>]
02:32:21 ◼ ► that is the one thing I OS that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9141">TS</a>]
02:32:23 ◼ ► can't drag downward to see a search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9143">TS</a>]
02:32:26 ◼ ► emoji search like maybe I just needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9146">TS</a>]
02:32:28 ◼ ► memorize where everything is but I spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9148">TS</a>]
02:32:31 ◼ ► so long trying to find popcorn the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9151">TS</a>]
02:32:32 ◼ ► day before I just gave up and did a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9152">TS</a>]
02:32:34 ◼ ► search for it so I can copy and paste it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9154">TS</a>]
02:32:35 ◼ ► oh my goodness that's so sad no it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9155">TS</a>]
02:32:39 ◼ ► the food section can't find it tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9159">TS</a>]
02:32:41 ◼ ► little images too many of them scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9161">TS</a>]
02:32:42 ◼ ► scrolling alright so what else are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9162">TS</a>]
02:32:46 ◼ ► looking forward to maybe that wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9166">TS</a>]
02:32:48 ◼ ► be covered in the keynote or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9168">TS</a>]
02:32:50 ◼ ► something that's different so I'll cede [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9170">TS</a>]
02:32:52 ◼ ► the conversation with a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9172">TS</a>]
02:32:53 ◼ ► thoughts I'm interested to see what San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9173">TS</a>]
02:32:56 ◼ ► Jose is like I'm kind of excited that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9176">TS</a>]
02:32:58 ◼ ► that Apple seems to be more involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9178">TS</a>]
02:33:01 ◼ ► with the ancillary goings-on around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9181">TS</a>]
02:33:05 ◼ ► conference they're putting up a booth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9185">TS</a>]
02:33:08 ◼ ► for podcasters which we will not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9188">TS</a>]
02:33:12 ◼ ► exclusively because Marco doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9192">TS</a>]
02:33:14 ◼ ► WWDC ticket and it stands to reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9194">TS</a>]
02:33:17 ◼ ► need one to get through the door to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9197">TS</a>]
02:33:19 ◼ ► but well certainly I think the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9199">TS</a>]
02:33:22 ◼ ► limitation is that it's limited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9202">TS</a>]
02:33:23 ◼ ► 60-minute blocks there's no way our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9203">TS</a>]
02:33:25 ◼ ► is under an hour yeah certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9205">TS</a>]
02:33:28 ◼ ► given that we've just spent you know two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9208">TS</a>]
02:33:30 ◼ ► and a half hours blabbing about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9210">TS</a>]
02:33:31 ◼ ► could possibly happen let alone well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9211">TS</a>]
02:33:35 ◼ ► did but anyway that that's kind of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9215">TS</a>]
02:33:38 ◼ ► they've been over the years embracing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9218">TS</a>]
02:33:40 ◼ ► community events like layers and app cam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9220">TS</a>]
02:33:42 ◼ ► for girls and the talk show and thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9222">TS</a>]
02:33:45 ◼ ► and alt conf and things of that nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9225">TS</a>]
02:33:47 ◼ ► so I'm looking forward to seeing kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9227">TS</a>]
02:33:50 ◼ ► what San Jose brings to the table and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9230">TS</a>]
02:33:53 ◼ ► and additionally and completely wildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9233">TS</a>]
02:33:56 ◼ ► unrelated I am super excited to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9236">TS</a>]
02:34:00 ◼ ► Mario Kart against all my friends in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9240">TS</a>]
02:34:03 ◼ ► and speaking of Marco made a reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9243">TS</a>]
02:34:07 ◼ ► to his packing list for WDC and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9247">TS</a>]
02:34:10 ◼ ► had dropped an image in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9250">TS</a>]
02:34:12 ◼ ► which I forgot to add to the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9252">TS</a>]
02:34:14 ◼ ► so probably won't be there but I spied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9254">TS</a>]
02:34:17 ◼ ► something interesting on that list Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9257">TS</a>]
02:34:20 ◼ ► would you like to tell us about that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9260">TS</a>]
02:34:22 ◼ ► the list ends with intento switch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9262">TS</a>]
02:34:25 ◼ ► pro controller question mark who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9265">TS</a>]
02:34:29 ◼ ► Nintendo switch would you be bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9269">TS</a>]
02:34:33 ◼ ► are you sure yeah no I didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9273">TS</a>]
02:34:36 ◼ ► second one no I'm surprised that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9276">TS</a>]
02:34:38 ◼ ► I see it's our family switch TIFF is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9278">TS</a>]
02:34:41 ◼ ► wonderful wonderful life Wow and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9281">TS</a>]
02:34:46 ◼ ► discussions she decided to grant me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9286">TS</a>]
02:34:49 ◼ ► permission to take her switch did Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9289">TS</a>]
02:34:52 ◼ ► grant your permission does even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9292">TS</a>]
02:34:54 ◼ ► what's going I don't think he knows we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9294">TS</a>]
02:34:57 ◼ ► will find out but just wait until says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9297">TS</a>]
02:35:00 ◼ ► time to play Zelda mommy yeah then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9300">TS</a>]
02:35:02 ◼ ► you're gonna pay for that yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9302">TS</a>]
02:35:04 ◼ ► hoping that doesn't happen but I know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9304">TS</a>]
02:35:06 ◼ ► reality it probably will that's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9306">TS</a>]
02:35:08 ◼ ► gonna be just do me a big favor here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9308">TS</a>]
02:35:10 ◼ ► I I will not forget that no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9310">TS</a>]
02:35:13 ◼ ► awesome that's that's very kind of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9313">TS</a>]
02:35:15 ◼ ► all right so John what are you looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9315">TS</a>]
02:35:17 ◼ ► forward to in the not Keynote parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9317">TS</a>]
02:35:21 ◼ ► the conference earlier shows I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9321">TS</a>]
02:35:24 ◼ ► actually seen a weather report maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9324">TS</a>]
02:35:26 ◼ ► it's too warm because it's getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9326">TS</a>]
02:35:29 ◼ ► the point where I'll feel like I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9329">TS</a>]
02:35:33 ◼ ► of the indoor spaces I'll still need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9333">TS</a>]
02:35:36 ◼ ► carry with me something warmer so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9336">TS</a>]
02:35:37 ◼ ► don't freeze to death so I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9337">TS</a>]
02:35:39 ◼ ► suppose that's preferable to the WWC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9339">TS</a>]
02:35:41 ◼ ► thing where the outdoors is freezing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9341">TS</a>]
02:35:43 ◼ ► we'll see but anyway it any right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9343">TS</a>]
02:35:46 ◼ ► should be more Sun that's very least and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9346">TS</a>]
02:35:48 ◼ ► maybe people actually get to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9348">TS</a>]
02:35:50 ◼ ► various nerdy t-shirts that I wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9350">TS</a>]
02:35:51 ◼ ► because I'll actually not be wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9351">TS</a>]
02:35:52 ◼ ► t-shirt underneath a long-sleeve thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9352">TS</a>]
02:35:56 ◼ ► Marco I am incredibly excited to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9356">TS</a>]
02:36:00 ◼ ► these podcasts to do live shows out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9360">TS</a>]
02:36:02 ◼ ► there to meet people to laugh at have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9362">TS</a>]
02:36:06 ◼ ► big jobs while it is all the wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9366">TS</a>]
02:36:08 ◼ ► yes do we meet in person I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9368">TS</a>]
02:36:12 ◼ ► forward to that it's going to be I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9372">TS</a>]
02:36:13 ◼ ► show you my metal credit card yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9373">TS</a>]
02:36:16 ◼ ► gonna be fun and I like seeing everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9376">TS</a>]
02:36:17 ◼ ► see you know my friends making new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9377">TS</a>]
02:36:19 ◼ ► friends and yeah I'm excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9379">TS</a>]
02:36:22 ◼ ► layers and going to that that's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9382">TS</a>]
02:36:24 ◼ ► fun and yeah that's a it's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9384">TS</a>]
02:36:27 ◼ ► very very busy week but busy in all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9387">TS</a>]
02:36:30 ◼ ► good ways you know we're going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9390">TS</a>]
02:36:31 ◼ ► lots of you know presumably lots of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9391">TS</a>]
02:36:33 ◼ ► exciting stuff coming out of Apple we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9393">TS</a>]
02:36:35 ◼ ► going to have lots of new api's play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9395">TS</a>]
02:36:37 ◼ ► with we're going to have a huge batch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9397">TS</a>]
02:36:39 ◼ ► new people installing my app on beta one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9399">TS</a>]
02:36:41 ◼ ► tell me how it breaks and complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9401">TS</a>]
02:36:43 ◼ ► that I haven't fixed it yet it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9403">TS</a>]
02:36:45 ◼ ► to be glorious and I look forward to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9405">TS</a>]
02:36:47 ◼ ► this week every year and yeah thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9407">TS</a>]
02:36:51 ◼ ► Kaspar betterment and jet and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9411">TS</a>]
02:36:55 ◼ ► live from WTC now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9415">TS</a>]
02:37:08 ◼ ► accidental John didn't do any research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9428">TS</a>]
02:37:19 ◼ ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9439">TS</a>]
02:37:22 ◼ ► notes at 80 P dot F M and if floor into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9442">TS</a>]
02:37:28 ◼ ► Twitter you can follow them at CAS II WA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9448">TS</a>]
02:37:33 ◼ ► L is s so that's Casey list em a are Co [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9453">TS</a>]
02:37:59 ◼ ► so is it legal to wear shorts in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9479">TS</a>]
02:38:04 ◼ ► Jose because like I know maybe we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9484">TS</a>]
02:38:06 ◼ ► ask the Europeans I know a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9486">TS</a>]
02:38:09 ◼ ► consider shorts to be like a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9489">TS</a>]
02:38:11 ◼ ► fashion faux pas that and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9491">TS</a>]
02:38:13 ◼ ► mention why we wear short pants this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9493">TS</a>]
02:38:17 ◼ ► yeah I didn't really have leather over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9497">TS</a>]
02:38:18 ◼ ► there they don't have they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9498">TS</a>]
02:38:20 ◼ ► like real heat Italy they don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9500">TS</a>]
02:38:22 ◼ ► have air-conditioning like there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9502">TS</a>]
02:38:25 ◼ ► are wholly unqualified to weigh in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9505">TS</a>]
02:38:27 ◼ ► this particular discussion all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9507">TS</a>]
02:38:30 ◼ ► good I don't care what that so-so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9510">TS</a>]
02:38:31 ◼ ► because it seems like the weather's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9511">TS</a>]
02:38:35 ◼ ► whatever those in celcius I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9515">TS</a>]
02:38:36 ◼ ► because I'm I've hot weather so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9516">TS</a>]
02:38:37 ◼ ► America it's gonna be like in the 80s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9517">TS</a>]
02:38:38 ◼ ► right really for me to me like 80s means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9518">TS</a>]
02:38:41 ◼ ► shorts well if you're spending your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9521">TS</a>]
02:38:44 ◼ ► whole day inside an air-conditioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9524">TS</a>]
02:38:45 ◼ ► building maybe you won't be indoors as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9525">TS</a>]
02:38:47 ◼ ► much as we are but I'm that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9527">TS</a>]
02:38:50 ◼ ► that's my concern like that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9530">TS</a>]
02:38:52 ◼ ► actually will be hot outside with pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9532">TS</a>]
02:38:54 ◼ ► but there's no way I would wear shorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9534">TS</a>]
02:38:56 ◼ ► not for fashion reasons just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9536">TS</a>]
02:38:57 ◼ ► would be freezing inside what is surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9537">TS</a>]
02:39:00 ◼ ► whatever Convention Center where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9540">TS</a>]
02:39:02 ◼ ► sessions are actually this is a way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9542">TS</a>]
02:39:04 ◼ ► is the problem with shorts is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9544">TS</a>]
02:39:07 ◼ ► want to wear them outside but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9547">TS</a>]
02:39:09 ◼ ► wear the mayor conditioning can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9549">TS</a>]
02:39:10 ◼ ► freeze like and but not to mention the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9550">TS</a>]
02:39:13 ◼ ► fact that like half the world thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9553">TS</a>]
02:39:14 ◼ ► that you're committing some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9554">TS</a>]
02:39:16 ◼ ► massive fashion crime by wearing shorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9556">TS</a>]
02:39:17 ◼ ► also I will mount a defense of cargo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9557">TS</a>]
02:39:20 ◼ ► shorts I think that non cargo shorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9560">TS</a>]
02:39:24 ◼ ► look a little bit weird like cargo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9564">TS</a>]
02:39:27 ◼ ► shorts I admit are not like the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9567">TS</a>]
02:39:29 ◼ ► looking things in the world but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9569">TS</a>]
02:39:31 ◼ ► non cargo shorts look like weirdly flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9571">TS</a>]
02:39:33 ◼ ► I don't know I think you have a car or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9573">TS</a>]
02:39:36 ◼ ► shorts fetish or something I think non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9576">TS</a>]
02:39:38 ◼ ► cargo shorts look like shorts oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9578">TS</a>]
02:39:42 ◼ ► Marco do you have any idea how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9582">TS</a>]
02:39:44 ◼ ► email you slash we are going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9584">TS</a>]
02:39:45 ◼ ► thanks to this I don't care I'll be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9585">TS</a>]
02:39:48 ◼ ► California deleted all I'm an attorney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9588">TS</a>]
02:39:51 ◼ ► male in California do you answer email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9591">TS</a>]
02:39:53 ◼ ► ever no yeah I I've gotten accustomed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9593">TS</a>]
02:39:58 ◼ ► the completely bananas San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9598">TS</a>]
02:40:01 ◼ ► weather which has perks but also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9601">TS</a>]
02:40:04 ◼ ► plenty of drawbacks to this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9604">TS</a>]
02:40:07 ◼ ► a definite change and I think what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9607">TS</a>]
02:40:09 ◼ ► going to amount to is I will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9609">TS</a>]
02:40:11 ◼ ► end up choosing comfort inside over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9611">TS</a>]
02:40:15 ◼ ► comfort outside but you will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9615">TS</a>]
02:40:16 ◼ ► see me rolling into these events with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9616">TS</a>]
02:40:19 ◼ ► light sheen on my face since I've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9619">TS</a>]
02:40:22 ◼ ► sweaty walking between buildings yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9622">TS</a>]
02:40:24 ◼ ► this is going to be even more sweaty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9624">TS</a>]
02:40:26 ◼ ► nerds I feel like that's a good safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9626">TS</a>]
02:40:27 ◼ ► prediction sweaty or nerds WWC 2016-2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9627">TS</a>]
02:40:30 ◼ ► a year it is yeah yeah oh man we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9630">TS</a>]
02:40:35 ◼ ► what happens but I'm looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9635">TS</a>]
02:40:36 ◼ ► I'm super excited to see you too I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9636">TS</a>]
02:40:37 ◼ ► super excited to see our mutual friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9637">TS</a>]
02:40:39 ◼ ► I'm just I'm stoked I'm happy to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9639">TS</a>]
02:40:42 ◼ ► ticket to the big show this year since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS6lOUs/9642">TS</a>]