The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► it would shoot out about halfway like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01 ◼   ► kind of a tongue sticking out of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1">TS</a>]

00:00:02 ◼   ► mouth that make this little noise yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04 ◼   ► and then it would pop out okay we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4">TS</a>]

00:00:08 ◼   ► get started as always with follow-up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/8">TS</a>]

00:00:12 ◼   ► approximately one tenth of the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/12">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► I counted wrote in to tell us about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► drag-and-drop replacement if you recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► I spoke about drag-and-drop last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21 ◼   ► and it was a thing where if you wiggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23 ◼   ► your mouse you get kind of a shelf for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► lack of a better term where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► store things temporarily and then drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30 ◼   ► them off of that shelf into somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► else so it allows for allows for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► you know manipulate your computer rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► than having to commit to a drag start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► finish all in one shot and a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/39">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► people wrote in very helpfully and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► suggested you Inc which I have installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46 ◼   ► there is a demo outside of the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► I installed it ran the demo for about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► day realized this is pretty much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54 ◼   ► close to drag-and-drop as I can possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/54">TS</a>]

00:00:55 ◼   ► get without actually being drag and drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► and so I then purchased it for $7 from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► the Mac App Store and it is quite good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03 ◼   ► the only basically allows you to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► shelf not on like drag and drop in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► ways it's actually better than drag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/68">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► drop because it allows you to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► multiple things on the shelf whereas my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► recollection of drag and drop was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14 ◼   ► basically it was one item and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16 ◼   ► or you know like one collection of items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/76">TS</a>]

00:01:18 ◼   ► basically one drag operation into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/78">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► shelf was all you got whereas with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/82">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► link you can put several different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► things in the shelf all at once you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/85">TS</a>]

00:01:26 ◼   ► drag them out as one unit or drag them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/86">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► out as individual units etc etc etc it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► very very good I like it a lot protip in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► the preferences which I don't have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35 ◼   ► front of me and I'm not gonna try to dig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/95">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► up but there's a way to say rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39 ◼   ► having the Shelf appear on one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► edges of the screen you can have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44 ◼   ► appear very near where the drag is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► happening which is a faux replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► for the wiggle the mouse approach of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► drag and drop which I loved so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► having used doing for all of two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► three days two thumbs up from me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/115">TS</a>]

00:01:56 ◼   ► wonder if the reason why I drag and drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► under business was that it's impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► to talk about on a podcast without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► saying the animal dragon and the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04 ◼   ► drop not drag that and - drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/124">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► clarify all these things but yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► it's good stuff so I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► recommend it and like I said there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/134">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► demo if you want to try it out for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► little bit we'll put both a link to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► developers website where you can grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► the demo and the App Store link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► show notes so a several of you wrote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/143">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► to encourage John siracusa to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► old Mac stuff which is almost as bad as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► encouraging Steven Hackett to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/152">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► old Mac stuff so let's talk about old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► Mac stuff John tell me about old Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40 ◼   ► menu UI if you please this is a quickie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► we talked about a last show the old Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► way of doing menus in the menu bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49 ◼   ► having to hold down the mouse button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► many people wrote in to tell me a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► that I guess they think I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/174">TS</a>]

00:02:55 ◼   ► but maybe other people don't know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57 ◼   ► well that you can continue to do that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/177">TS</a>]

00:03:00 ◼   ► case that wasn't clear from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/180">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► discussion last show you can continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► use the menus the old white because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/183">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► course that way still works like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/186">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► it's kind of a subset of the regular way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► so go try it right now if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/190">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► feel like you're living in the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► before I'm gonna say Mac OS 8 Mac OS 7.6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/193">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► I don't know if someone in the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► can look up when the Mac operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/203">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► system switch to the windows style of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► clicking on menus and though they stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► down but anyway the window I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► way you say it the windows style I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► I guess you could say it's an X Window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► System stylized some some xx windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► manager probably did it before Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► and next probably did it before Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44 ◼   ► I don't know anyway certainly wasn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/224">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► Mac style the Mac style was the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► style from the very beginning anyway you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► can continue to do it the old way if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► want to some people have you to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► the old way I thought I was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► continue to do it the old way in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► same way that I continued to remap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► command end to create a new folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/237">TS</a>]

00:03:58 ◼   ► because you know I tried it the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► way didn't like it some habits die hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► but I totally switched to the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05 ◼   ► Mouse technique way as soon as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/245">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► added it not by any conscious choice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► just happened and that's just the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► is but some people wrote in to say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/253">TS</a>]

00:04:14 ◼   ► I'm still doing it the old way so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/254">TS</a>]

00:04:17 ◼   ► works some people so anyway give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► try all right so to keep with the theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► jira Cox writes in and says I'm 33 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/262">TS</a>]

00:04:26 ◼   ► have used most Mac's since the PowerBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► 160 I've never even heard of quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31 ◼   ► floppy Auto inject quote when would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► use that so they talked about floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/273">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► Auto inject in eject Glashow floppy auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/277">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► eject is pretty self-explanatory max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► from the beginning could eject their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46 ◼   ► floppy disk there was no button that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► would press to make the disk come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► through software through the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51 ◼   ► system you would do something to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/291">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► the disk be ejected likes like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► couldn't select eject from the file menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/296">TS</a>]

00:04:57 ◼   ► or wherever that was and the disk would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00 ◼   ► come popping out not all the way like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► the Mac portable and space shooting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► disk out because we have gravity here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/304">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► and friction that caused by that gravity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/305">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► as the floppy the floppy disk rubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► against the lower parts of the apparatus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► but anyway it would shoot out about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/312">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► halfway like kind of a tongue sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► out of your mouth and make this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► noise I've heard that noise and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/317">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► perfect I heard that sound a lot havoc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/323">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► having an original Macintosh with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31 ◼   ► floppy drive and so I would have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34 ◼   ► operating system on one floppy and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36 ◼   ► you'd have the application and the data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► on the other floppity boot from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► operating system floppy and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► deject that a ghost image of that disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44 ◼   ► would stay on your desktop so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► computer still knew that was there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/346">TS</a>]

00:05:47 ◼   ► you would you would eject it but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► unmount it then you would stick in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► say the macpaint floppy disk which could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► contain macpaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/352">TS</a>]

00:05:53 ◼   ► plus maybe five or ten of your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/353">TS</a>]

00:05:56 ◼   ► images you know the app plus your files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59 ◼   ► and you'd have to do this floppy disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► dance of operating system disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► application disk or whenever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► computer asked for it and the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► would ask for it by spitting out one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/366">TS</a>]

00:06:07 ◼   ► disk and saying please and start the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/367">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► disk system disk and you would take up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► whatever just it just spit out and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► the system disk in and it would ask the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► application disk back and forth and back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► and forth being able to do that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18 ◼   ► floppy swap of taking out the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20 ◼   ► it has Auto ejected and putting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22 ◼   ► other one with one hand was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24 ◼   ► important skill for Mac users then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/384">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► could have the mouse of the keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/387">TS</a>]

00:06:28 ◼   ► be doing whatever and also be flawed be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30 ◼   ► swapping this bag of worth it got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► little bit ridiculous in certain points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► anyway that's Auto eject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36 ◼   ► Auto inject is the more subtle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38 ◼   ► therefore the the more valuable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/398">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► attribute of Mack floppy drives which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► was when you took a disk this had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► with the this switching back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48 ◼   ► auto ejectment that you didn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► like press a button like the disk was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52 ◼   ► already there you just grabbed it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► inch of the thing was already sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/413">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► out of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► Auto inject meant when you stuck a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► floppy disk in you wouldn't have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► you didn't on PC shove the three and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► half inch floppy all the way in like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04 ◼   ► and down kind of like a Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/424">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► cartridge right an NES cartridge like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07 ◼   ► you didn't have to shove it all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/427">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► in and down right it was so much work oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► it was just egregious Marco do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► remember the pain we went through yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► what you would do instead is you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► would push the the floppy disk in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► just as you were getting toward sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► towards the end of the travel when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► the disk the edge of this would start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25 ◼   ► be flush with the edge of the case the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27 ◼   ► drive would pull the disk out of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► hand which is a spring-loaded mechanism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► it's not like it wasn't complicated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► would suck the disk in so you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► to push it in and give it a little flick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35 ◼   ► and I would go shrink and they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► sticking by itself so you didn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/456">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► take the disc out yourself by pressing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41 ◼   ► button and you didn't have to shove the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► disk all the way in and down it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► pull the thing it's kind of like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46 ◼   ► the Mercedes whatever Auto soft closing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► yes of course yeah yeah but it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/468">TS</a>]

00:07:52 ◼   ► soft your Mercedes is not the only car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/472">TS</a>]

00:07:53 ◼   ► that offers that feature I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55 ◼   ► were the first one with the s-class many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/475">TS</a>]

00:07:56 ◼   ► many years ago but anyway it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► soft this was very very hard and thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► and and since I had you know the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03 ◼   ► thing I had used before the Mac were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► five and a quarter floppies which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► know you just slide in and turn that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► little knob thingy down right there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/488">TS</a>]

00:08:09 ◼   ► they didn't go in and down they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► slid directly in and they were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► floppy right so I had never used a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/493">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► three-and-a-half inch floppy that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► an auto inject and eject until like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► first time like I encountered a PC they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22 ◼   ► used that maybe it was like the ps2 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/502">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► whatever whenever PC makers finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► started bundling three and a half inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► drives and it was just so gross because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/507">TS</a>]

00:08:30 ◼   ► you know you got that wait for the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/510">TS</a>]

00:08:31 ◼   ► to stop blinking and press the eject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32 ◼   ► button across your finger is that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► Ajax I don't know man the index I'd I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► would push it the skin and we just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► bouncing back at me like is this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39 ◼   ► broken pushed it just comes bouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► back like now you have to shove it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43 ◼   ► the way in anyway that's Auto inject and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► it was awesome I love that we've become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► like the podcast all about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50 ◼   ► B ports and floppy drives the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► important parts of computing the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► relevant for today's do you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/533">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► when you see a BMW driver on the road in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/537">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► there driving aggressively not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► their turn signals and just generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04 ◼   ► living up to the BMW stereotype you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/544">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► that moment what are you like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/547">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► what yeah those are jerks well then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/548">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► hear Jon Stark used to talk about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► egregious it was to use a PC floppy disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► drive back in the 90s and you think yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► those Mac guys yeah they were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► obnoxious about the Mac now it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► not to be obnoxious when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/563">TS</a>]

00:09:24 ◼   ► something so much better than my eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/564">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► just rolled right the hell out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► head about Auto is like these are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/570">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► know Apple didn't make these drives like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► their source from Sony or whoever makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► them right every PC vendor could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► had auto eject me inject the eject part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► was you needed OS support for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► because that was just a philosophical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/584">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► and technical difference of like does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► the OS manage when the disc is unmounted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► or does the user manage it you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50 ◼   ► Microsoft chose there but auto inject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52 ◼   ► could have been added to pcs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► probably was on a bunch of pcs it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/593">TS</a>]

00:09:56 ◼   ► that PC makers you know ever pension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58 ◼   ► those pennies would not spend two cents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► to add a feature like that which in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03 ◼   ► days of floppy of swapping floppy disks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► was a huge quality-of-life difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► but there's no way they would buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► fancier drive that would do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► everything had to be as cheap as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/611">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► that's my PC suck I gotta say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/611">TS</a>]

00:10:17 ◼   ► I'm a sucker for any kind of cool like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► fancy little luxury feature but Auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/619">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► injecting ejects just never crossed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/623">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► barrier for me we're both the the hassle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/626">TS</a>]

00:10:30 ◼   ► of pushing a floppy drive in a floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► disk into the drive and pushing a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/632">TS</a>]

00:10:35 ◼   ► button to eject it was never a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► to me and then having it be entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► software based and having to do software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42 ◼   ► eject on the Mac always was more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/642">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► hindrance to me and I recognized you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48 ◼   ► know things like we even mention about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► like unmounting the disk you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/649">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► recognize why it's useful to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► be software driven or software or hepps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► offer be involved but the fact is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► it's worse as a user to to have that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/658">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► software based and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► have all these additional parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► could fail in the drive like that drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► did not fail first of all someone asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► that in the thing no they did not fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► and in my entire life of Max with floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13 ◼   ► drives not a single one ever failed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15 ◼   ► any way no part of it inject eject the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18 ◼   ► reading no part of the drive ever failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► I got a lot of Mac's with floppy drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22 ◼   ► I am curious to know that whether that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► whether on a large scale there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27 ◼   ► meaningful difference in failure issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► III feel like in my life my lifetime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► usage of max represents a large scale it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► probably does I've never heard of a PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► floppy drive feeling it never yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38 ◼   ► mean I think it's just a generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► reliable thing like I'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► not auto-injector eject one failed to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/702">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► just think it's a very very chunky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► reliable Pisa and they got so much use I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► mean you know it was like flawless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/708">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► whopping yeah Buddhists they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51 ◼   ► they were pretty solid moving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/711">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► Lewis Garber writes in to say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58 ◼   ► guess we as an Apple considered naming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► the daemon for this is dy LD we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/721">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► considered name in the daemon dy l DD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► for a while but settled on closure D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/727">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► naming is one of the hardest problems in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► CS he's the one who gave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14 ◼   ► presentation or part of the presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/734">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► on dy LD 3 at WWC I think his last name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/735">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► is gerberg not my father's sorry anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/739">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► it's anyway you can watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► presentation and see and or hear him I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► forget if he appears in the video but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27 ◼   ► yeah dl DD was on the table sadly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► chosen why is that so sad cuz it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► have been funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► yeah alright John one should cover this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► next piece of follow up for me here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► another difficult name you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► give me a brass first name this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► problem I'm gonna go with you but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► this is someone linking to a blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/767">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► I'm assuming is where some works that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► automatic the the company that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► the same company that makes the box that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► you put in the old dirty bastard port on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59 ◼   ► your cars it's it's probably something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/779">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► like the Luba milkovic wow that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/789">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► pretty good that was Jane you cheat with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► the internet no I'm just guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► right I'm wrong maybe it wasn't pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► good anyway this was that I'm sorry I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► apologize this this thing was added like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► while those two were talking on the live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► streams I'm a little bit behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► insurance today I talk about automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► how they just cut their iOS apps launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► time in half and how do they do it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► obviously do ld3 isn't like out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38 ◼   ► everybody yet they're talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40 ◼   ► their existing iOS app they did it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► old-fashioned way based on some advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► they got from a WWC 2016 talk was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► hey if your app is taking a long time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/827">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► launch and you use a lot of dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50 ◼   ► libraries actually you may be spending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52 ◼   ► lot of your time in the whole part that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55 ◼   ► happens before main is called where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57 ◼   ► figures out all of the dynamic libraries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59 ◼   ► and loads them and loads all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/839">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► symbols and does all the code signature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► verification all sorts of other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► that happens before your code even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► begins executing and to avoid that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10 ◼   ► can take all that stuff and compile it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► into one giant static framework that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► part of your executable and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► skip all those steps and that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► but is not really what you probably want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► to do because you know it's convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► from both a development perspective and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► also obviously when you're dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/864">TS</a>]

00:14:25 ◼   ► linking to system libraries it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/865">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► necessary to not have everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► compiled into a giant static binary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► so they talked about in this blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33 ◼   ► what they had to do to make that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34 ◼   ► it will be better if they could say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36 ◼   ► we don't have to all this hack that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38 ◼   ► did to put everything into one giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/878">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► static library we don't have to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► anymore in iOS 11 because closure D not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/881">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► do al D D will do all this caching for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47 ◼   ► us and instead on startup on the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► time we start people to say it will ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51 ◼   ► closure D hey do you all look up stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► for us good just give us the answers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55 ◼   ► then we'll continue from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/895">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► but either way it's interesting blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► post we will link it in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/898">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► and they break it down into like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02 ◼   ► much time was spent doing dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04 ◼   ► library loading rebasing and binding for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/904">TS</a>]

00:15:08 ◼   ► all the addresses and everything an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► other category and you can see how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11 ◼   ► they cut it down so people are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14 ◼   ► I guess I maybe I underestimated exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► how much time is spent into the dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18 ◼   ► linker for large complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/918">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► applications versus how much time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21 ◼   ► spent like in your application launching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23 ◼   ► loading all sorts of resources other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► all right Walter writes in any ideas how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► Apple will handle the transition to new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31 ◼   ► file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/931">TS</a>]

00:15:31 ◼   ► formats on older Mac's that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► support hardware encoding and decoding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34 ◼   ► of h.265 what will happen with users who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/934">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► have a mixture of old and new devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/937">TS</a>]

00:15:40 ◼   ► like a brand new iPhone and a 4-year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/940">TS</a>]

00:15:41 ◼   ► Mac how's that gonna work well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► already have some indication of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► because if you happen to have installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/946">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► the beta on your phone and I've taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► any pictures with your phone and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► don't have the beta on your Mac of high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► sierra then you can see what happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57 ◼   ► the Photos app where it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00 ◼   ► handled somewhat gracefully it downloads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02 ◼   ► the the hief version as the photo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► it's it's able to show you a render of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/964">TS</a>]

00:16:08 ◼   ► it as a JPEG and some kind of fallback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09 ◼   ► mode but if it's a live photo it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► play it and if you try to export the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14 ◼   ► original or do any kind of meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16 ◼   ► operation on it it says something on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► lines of the full resolution version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20 ◼   ► this isn't a 4-month isn't supported so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► it actually does like you know it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► all these he files it in the other being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/985">TS</a>]

00:16:26 ◼   ► sent over from the phone wearing I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► 11 but the Mac Photos app on whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/988">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► version I'm running that's not High [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► Sierra what is this regular regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► Sierra when they say that now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► exchange names every year I lose track I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► like forget entire mountains and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42 ◼   ► but anyway so that's that's how they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45 ◼   ► doing it so far we'll see like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47 ◼   ► like they they try to be smart about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50 ◼   ► things like in share sheets and iOS like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► they like they'll share out a JPEG or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54 ◼   ► they'll share out you know presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56 ◼   ► for video the part we share out in h.264 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58 ◼   ► mp4 file or something like that so their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00 ◼   ► prop there trying to be smart about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:01 ◼   ► but in certain places it's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04 ◼   ► if you have some devices that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► greater than some that aren't it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06 ◼   ► be little bumps in the road like this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► think you can't actually export h.265 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► remember one of the sessions talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:13 ◼   ► about that like your export options if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► you use their framework the only option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► is they just explore like a subtle way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► of encouraging you hey if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► you're about to share this out somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► don't even try to do h.265 this question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► though specifically about Mac's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27 ◼   ► don't support hardware encoding decoding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29 ◼   ► of h.265 what will they do well we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32 ◼   ► seen this before with Mac's that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► support hardware encoding decoding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► h.264 back when that was a thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38 ◼   ► most of them do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► but a long time ago they didn't and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► same thing happens with every video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► Kodak whether it's uh what was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► that was the cool one on the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► error of the blue and white g3 the cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► video Kodak DivX no no I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54 ◼   ► QuickTime one like QuickTime always had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55 ◼   ► a choice of like what which codecs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57 ◼   ► want and they would add new ones of oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► yeah it was called mob come on oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:04 ◼   ► is gonna kill me I mean mpeg-4 is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► old like it like before h.264 there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► a regular mpeg-4 video I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► it's not what I'm thinking of it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► was a codec that Apple was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:17 ◼   ► excited about and would promote as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► their fancy the Sorenson there we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23 ◼   ► someone got it finally anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► back when Sorenson came out it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27 ◼   ► what if my or you know issue six for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► better example cuz that is hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:30 ◼   ► support for that what if you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:31 ◼   ► support well your video playback is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► choppy or you can't play it at all worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► a damn like it you you know it will fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37 ◼   ► back to software so for h.265 Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:40 ◼   ► supporting decoding on like every Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► they sell obviously and lots of old Macs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► to and there is a software fallback if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47 ◼   ► you don't have hardware gives a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► Mac's don't have our in fact most Mac's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► don't have hardware for it and will the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► software a fallback would be fast enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54 ◼   ► you can find out now go find h.265 movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56 ◼   ► in MKV you know format on off the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:59 ◼   ► of whatever truck you want to find it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► and try to play it and if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► reasonable resolution and you play it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► like mplayer x4 Mac or whatever it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08 ◼   ► play fine but you'll find one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► like 4k or even on some things 1080p and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13 ◼   ► you'll try to play it an N player or VLC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► or whatever and it will chop it get be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► choppy and it will drop frames and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19 ◼   ► will be crappy but in general I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► there Apple software implementation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► h.265 encoding and decoding will be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28 ◼   ► fine for any reasonably modern Mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:31 ◼   ► just like the h.264 changeover did leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► behind some acts that could play to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36 ◼   ► mpeg-4 video perfectly fine in the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39 ◼   ► before or MPEG 2 or whatever and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► trouble with h.264 without any hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► to help it out really big videos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► will happen but it will be fine like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48 ◼   ► I wouldn't be worried about this if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► if you don't remember the super painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► transition to h2 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53 ◼   ► or you also won't remember the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► painful transmission they've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57 ◼   ► expired of anything h.265 transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59 ◼   ► won't be easier because I think we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► see the hardware support for a come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:01 ◼   ► online sooner because a lot of it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► lot of the the hardware that they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05 ◼   ► to do it is similar enough to h.265 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07 ◼   ► decoding that we already have close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► analogs to it so I think the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:11 ◼   ► vendors won't it won't be too painful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13 ◼   ► add the hardware to do a 265 decoder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► it's already in the newer chips oh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18 ◼   ► related to this similar questions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► any day a chance to put in here a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22 ◼   ► people asked kind of what Marko was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► getting at for the heath stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:28 ◼   ► actually it's tangentially related will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30 ◼   ► they take all the my existing pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► on my phone for example is a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:34 ◼   ► question and convert them all to Heath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► to save space right because I've got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39 ◼   ► know I've got 100 thousand pictures or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► whatever from I've had an iPhone since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:42 ◼   ► day one they took all these pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► they're JPEGs he was supposed to be half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45 ◼   ► the size will Apple convert them all I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:49 ◼   ► how most hundred percent sure the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► that is no they won't because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► would be a quality loss now that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► mean could Apple convert them or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► could they be a way for you to convert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► them off of course yeah this I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58 ◼   ► they're your photos you could convert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► them all you could buy a third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02 ◼   ► program to convert them all and delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► the JPEGs or whatever I don't think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► is a feature that Apple add but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► could they could have a big button and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:09 ◼   ► cuz as I take all my JPEGs and convert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► them and I'll accept the quality loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13 ◼   ► which probably won't be that big deal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:17 ◼   ► get the space segment or whatever but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► really don't think they'll do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► because converting a giant library would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► take a really long time unless they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24 ◼   ► it server-side which is not Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► forte and you will lose quality on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► and there's lots of things I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► doing losing edits and other type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► things in lossy ways like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33 ◼   ► basically a destructive operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► converting JPEGs to teeth would be if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► you want to get space savings out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► them would be destructive because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42 ◼   ► taking a lossy compressed format and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► you're doing another lossy compression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44 ◼   ► on top of it and even if you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47 ◼   ► even if you think you won't notice any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► difference or whatever and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:49 ◼   ► desperate to save the space you'd be way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► better off for both your sanity and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► tech wise to just get a phone with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56 ◼   ► space on it then to try to convert all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► of your things so I don't recommend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00 ◼   ► and I don't think Apple will do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► there surely some third party will so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► you're desperate to do it you will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05 ◼   ► able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► sebastian Kraus writes in to say I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09 ◼   ► the reason why Apple's finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11 ◼   ► supporting the opus codec is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► they've announced WebRTC support for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► 11 and hi Sierra and opus is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► required codecs so you have to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► in WebRTC and Sebastian has provided a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► couple links to put in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23 ◼   ► this is also why I think that opus will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► see a very high adoption rate eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► because every device with a browser that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► supports web RTC according to spec also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► has to support opus which was news to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► and I thought very interesting yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:34 ◼   ► news to me too and and I this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► promising because again as much as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39 ◼   ► know that I'm a huge fan of mp3 the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42 ◼   ► is it would be nice to have a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► modern codec that was as what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► support of his mp3 and was unencumbered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► as far as we know by patents and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► what opus is and and that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► wonderful if opus had widespread support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► because it is so much better than than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:59 ◼   ► mp3 at lower bit rates that there really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► are a lot of good uses for it and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► really might be you know worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06 ◼   ► developing standards for you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► things like podcasters to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► offer multiple versions of the same file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► in a reasonable way and have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► supported by the tooling and the hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► and everything else so if opus you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17 ◼   ► if opus can be more what more why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19 ◼   ► supported it makes all of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► more worth doing and so I donít know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:25 ◼   ► anything about web RTC all I know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► that it is it is potentially useful for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► things like recording podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► double-unders in browsers and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► cool I don't know if I would use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► but it's cool so I'm glad I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► salable so anyway this is nice we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► what happens my I do still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► reservations that I'm a little worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► about possible patent issues with using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► a free codec that has not been under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► much pad and scrutiny yet but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:57 ◼   ► really good codec so any support for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00 ◼   ► it is probably good let's think support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► making support for a codec mandatory as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► part of a standard it's good like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► better than not doing that but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08 ◼   ► a guarantee that people will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► support it especially if it's obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:11 ◼   ► people could say oh well you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► have WebRTC support but don't bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► with the opus support or like do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► half-ass job of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:19 ◼   ► really you know like because who uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21 ◼   ► opus it's not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► there is no no one's going to stop us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24 ◼   ► from shipping a web browser and claiming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► WebRTC would support when our opus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28 ◼   ► support is terrible and crashes are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30 ◼   ► slower only half exists or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33 ◼   ► whatever so these type of formats all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:37 ◼   ► begin with oh whether they be our opus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39 ◼   ► or whatever Vorbis all those stuff WebM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:43 ◼   ► all these supposedly patent free formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► that are less popular because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► have some big corporation that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:50 ◼   ► monetarily motivated to spread them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52 ◼   ► everywhere and put them and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► platform owners are less motivated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55 ◼   ► support them because they have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► things that they want to do it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► an uphill battle for them but putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► putting support for it mandatory support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► for it in the specs certainly helps so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► we'll see we'll see how this shakes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► like like apples opus support like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► limited support for opus if we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12 ◼   ► about this three years from now and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► still have a limited support for opus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:15 ◼   ► that's not a good sign because it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:18 ◼   ► would show that they have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► WebRTC itself they might decide is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► one's using it it's not that big a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► and the safari team's priority should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► elsewhere the WebKit steams priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► should be elsewhere so concentrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28 ◼   ► other standards it takes a long time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30 ◼   ► stop for something to go from standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32 ◼   ► defined by stance to about standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34 ◼   ► body to being implemented widely enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:37 ◼   ► in the browser's that people use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► actually be useful to people I mean just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► look at CSS which I think was CSS was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43 ◼   ► finalized in 1996 or something and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► didn't get decent browser support for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► for many many many years way too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► and even even when people were claiming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52 ◼   ► CSS support it took them so long to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► actually pass like remember the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56 ◼   ► CSS one acid test like do you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58 ◼   ► comply with all the CSS my CSS 1 specs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► like no we just comply with the parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03 ◼   ► that most websites use and the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► no that wasn't enough but it took so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07 ◼   ► long so here's hoping opus those better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1567">TS</a>]

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00:26:15 ◼   ► on glass for more information and 10% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17 ◼   ► off your first order visit fracture me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► calm slash podcast and then mention ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► in the one question survey that asks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24 ◼   ► where you came from fracture is a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► decor company it's out to rescue your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28 ◼   ► favorite images and photos from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► digital either they print your photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:33 ◼   ► onto glass and they had a laser-cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35 ◼   ► rigid backing so it's ready to straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1595">TS</a>]

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00:26:39 ◼   ► of the box they even include a wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► anchor if you don't have one all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43 ◼   ► have to do is upload your photo and pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► a size fracture that you want it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47 ◼   ► simple and the fracture photo process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► makes the color and contrast of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► photo really pop and it comes it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► the sleek frameless design they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► let your photo stand out you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► to worry about framing or anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► which shouldn't be expensive and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02 ◼   ► know tricky time-consuming the fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05 ◼   ► prints do not need to be framed they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► their own standalone on - they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► sleek and modern and cool they go edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10 ◼   ► to edge so your photo really stands out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► and it matches any decorating style so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► bringing a special memory to life or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► can give it as a gift to let someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19 ◼   ► else professional memory to life because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21 ◼   ► fractures make amazing gift whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► sending pictures of puppies or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26 ◼   ► grandchildren or whatever to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► people in your family or giving them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► other gifts to your friends they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► wonderful gifts we've given a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► ourselves we have a lot of them around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:33 ◼   ► our house we always get compliments on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35 ◼   ► them people love fracture prints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► fracture comes with a 60 day happiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► guarantee so you'll be sure to love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► every order and each fracture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43 ◼   ► handmade in Gainesville Florida from us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► source materials in a carbon-neutral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47 ◼   ► factory so there's really no guilt here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► it's there's nothing to lose here check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► it out today for more information and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► 10% off your first order visit fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:56 ◼   ► me.com slash podcast and don't forget to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► mention ATP in the one-question survey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► to let them know that you came from here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► once again fracture me.com slash podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► mention ATP there thank you very much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08 ◼   ► fracture for sponsoring our show what of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► you would like to talk about iOS 11 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► use and I cannot because I have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► installed it on any of my devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:19 ◼   ► because I am NOT a maniac and I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► traveling later this summer and even on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24 ◼   ► my iPad which is the most non-essential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► of non-essential devices I don't want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► to be on my iPad until it is extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► stable so speaking of me being quiet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► am going to turn this over to Marco well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:39 ◼   ► I didn't put this here but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42 ◼   ► kidding you think I added the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► that's the door enough no but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:47 ◼   ► so far you know I have I put I owe s11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► on my iPad you know in the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► week and I put it on my phone with beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► 2 which was now about two weeks ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58 ◼   ► so far it's mostly good there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► some things about it I'm I'm not crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► about yet and I guess I'll start with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► bed so I can end with the good like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► like a compliment sandwich in a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11 ◼   ► company like this is maybe an open-faced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► sandwich anyway I don't know open-faced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16 ◼   ► sandwiches were terrible there anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18 ◼   ► I'm not crazy about the new like giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► text navigation bar style and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24 ◼   ► isn't all the system maps and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► with the big header and all that white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:28 ◼   ► space that's kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► I'm also the multitasking stuff on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► iPad takes some getting used to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► it feels like I have to do a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► swipe gestures than before to set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► apps that like in a multi window way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► some of those swipe tests I just maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► just because I haven't done it done them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:49 ◼   ► enough some of them don't make they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51 ◼   ► don't make a lot of sense to me like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► like the way you have to like pull up an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:55 ◼   ► app off the dock to create it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:58 ◼   ► you also have to then pull it again from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► a little dragging handle to like stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► it down I don't love the way that flows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► I'm also not a huge fan at all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► new Notification Center it's the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► have to like swipe it down now and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► one this is on the phone on the I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18 ◼   ► I think it's about the same on the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20 ◼   ► but it's mainly getting them getting my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► way on the phone if I have to swipe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► down and then it looks like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► lockscreen even though it isn't your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► lockscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► and then you have to in order to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28 ◼   ► more notifications than like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► little bit you have to swipe on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33 ◼   ► screen again to then show like the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36 ◼   ► notifications view I don't know why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► isn't just the first view I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41 ◼   ► why the extra swipe is necessary and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44 ◼   ► it took me a couple of days to even find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46 ◼   ► that and and to find where is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► clear-all notifications button and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► there's stuff that's now like hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► behind these weird gestures that seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► like it's actually just more manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► work than before for common tasks so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► don't love that however other stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► the OS seems great you know on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► multitasking side on the iPad I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► glad they did so much and some of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► not the way I would do it you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► weird thing about how like apps are kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► of fixed as they're like two by two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19 ◼   ► they're to two time sets and you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► you kind of can't mix and match a gnat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► between different like quote spaces that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► whole things a little weird for me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► I'm not an iPad powered user so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31 ◼   ► really getting in my way I pet power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34 ◼   ► users who actually have better things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36 ◼   ► say about using the iPad in that way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► know people like Mike and petite Fraser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► Spears you know they they they have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► opinions on this and I suggest listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46 ◼   ► all their shows you'll put in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► notes if they've been talking with us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► lot recently and so and their opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:52 ◼   ► seem to be fairly mixed on the thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► well but how like everything is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► like these groups are kind of fixed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► these in these like at pairs and napkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► only be in one pair and here we bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01 ◼   ► the same pair of apps at a time and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► if there's there's things about it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► are clunky but it's really cool that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► they're doing as much as they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► and all that stuff I think is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► be way better in time now the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13 ◼   ► problem the problem mainly though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► that like with any iOS beta every summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► most of the apps that we are using are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► not taking advantage of this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► apps can't ship versions to the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► Store that use iOS 11 API yet Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:29 ◼   ► not accept submissions of apps built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► against the beta SDK you have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33 ◼   ► for its release in the fall so the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► way to run iOS 11 apps that actually use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► iOS 11 capabilities that aren't built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40 ◼   ► into the system to begin with is to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► on developers test five betas and test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45 ◼   ► flight is wildly broken for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► it's 11 so that isn't happening very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:50 ◼   ► much as far as I know so there's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► bright future here of things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► new multitasking stuff the new file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:57 ◼   ► stuff the new drag and drop stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59 ◼   ► some of the new API is that that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► developers lives a lot easier and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► lead to better things for users there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► a lot of great stuff here but most of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07 ◼   ► is still like on the horizon and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► phone it makes way less of a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12 ◼   ► because most of the really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► stuff that users can actually use right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► now and start taking advantage of right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► now instead of instead of waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19 ◼   ► the summer and waiting for the fall when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► everyone's apps get updated most of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23 ◼   ► stuff is that there's more of that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25 ◼   ► on the iPad than there was in the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► and especially if you are a a potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► user and an Apple notes user so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► it's really cool for you know iPad power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36 ◼   ► users and pencil and note people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► everyone else I feel like and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► kind of a mixed bag for now John I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► I put this in because I couldn't figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46 ◼   ► out multitasking I was lovin but a turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► it just be a bug where just wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► working on my iPad I mentioned it last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52 ◼   ► week but like I I was doing the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► that you're supposed to do to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► combine apps into sets and stuff in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► nothing was happening and I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58 ◼   ► was just crazy but it was just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► restarting my iPad fixed it whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► it's a beta about the the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:04 ◼   ► people can be complaining about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► limitations of mixing and matching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08 ◼   ► application stuff we're getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10 ◼   ► some weird territory with kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12 ◼   ► the mental model of how things work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:16 ◼   ► an iOS like the old build model was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► simple and so straightforward like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► especially before multitasking like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► was just such a solid mental model that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► it was obvious to anybody using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► they're like when you hit the big the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29 ◼   ► one and only big button on the face of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► your device you went back to springboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► and that's where you saw all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► applications and when you launched any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► application your entire phone became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:38 ◼   ► that application plus or minus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► status bar which was small enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► incorporated into the application enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► that people didn't think of it the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► way we think of the menu bar right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► if you wanted to do anything else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► hit the home button again to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► springboard but that was it that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► model you know springboard application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► application springboard and obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58 ◼   ► that's not viable for a sophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► workflow of any kind and so we had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► leave that in multitasking came in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05 ◼   ► we had the multitasking switchers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06 ◼   ► now we've got this little floating don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► call the window window things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► combining multiple applications on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► screen at the same time kind of a tiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► window manager but the mental model is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► starting to break down and it like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► is what is an iOS application in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22 ◼   ► running State is it just represented by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► a single rectangular region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► the screen that it controls and within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► that rectangle there can be other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31 ◼   ► floating rectangles or like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33 ◼   ► model did a lot of heavy iOS users are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► asking for which seems reasonable to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► but is super-weird is like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► messages alongside my text editor I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► want messages alongside my web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► why can't I have two spaces or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► one of which is web browser messages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► one of is my text editor messages it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► like well you can't do that you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► pick which one you want messages next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► but if you did have it next to both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► them the easiest way to do it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00 ◼   ► like right now it's next to both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► but it's not two instances of messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► it's the one and only rectangle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► messages right and it's exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► between the two places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:09 ◼   ► presumably like this is the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► could implement it right I think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13 ◼   ► people would be fine with that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► don't think they have two separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:15 ◼   ► copies of messages running like one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:18 ◼   ► signed into something different thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► whatever it's like this is just the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► and only messages but it appears in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► places it's like having two copies of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► while the finder does all the time two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► copies at the same window on your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► like this is literally the same window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► anything you do in this window exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► happens in real time in the other window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► like you could move things around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:36 ◼   ► they remove it that's that would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► mental model the other possible model is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► no you actually have two messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► windows but now sudden they're Ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► implications and application development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► implication it's like wait how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► manage that is my application in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► states some application no it has two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► windows this is you know uncharted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► territory in terms of API and UI for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:54 ◼   ► developers to handle this you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► multiple instances of you running so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► hope you can manage that internally with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► the stuff that you're doing that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► how I OS applications work if they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► multiple quote/unquote windows up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06 ◼   ► still within the one only rectangle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► is owned by that application it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► like you have to totally divorce once um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► but both of those things I describe are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► pretty weird both from a developer's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► perspective and trying to explain them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► to user I had a difficulty trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► explain them right now and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► if I could explain them to someone using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► the device like this is how things work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► and yes you don't have to use like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► don't have to worry about that I'm never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► gonna do this thing where I split up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► iPad screen I'm just gonna treat it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► my old iPad where you go to the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32 ◼   ► button and that that it's good that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► iOS falls back to that model you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► nobody has stuff you know it all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:36 ◼   ► swipes you don't do them accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► use it just like the old iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► application home okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► home it's inefficient but you can stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► with that model but if they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► try to expand iOS with most guessing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► they should to become more sophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► there should be some kind of coherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► explainable model for how things work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► and I don't think Apple has quite hit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► that yet as evidenced by like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01 ◼   ► immediate reaction of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► every iOS users like oh this is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► but here are a couple scenarios that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► not possible within this current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► paradigm and it is mostly just so jazz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► to have a new paradigm to even talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► about that you know this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► honeymoon period but I think eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► a year or two from now Apple will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► to continue thinking about this and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► all right how how do we address that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► there is there a new mental model for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► rectangles in iOS and how they relate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► applications that is understandable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:31 ◼   ► also useful and generic in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► that the you know the window implicit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► windows input mouse pointer what is wimp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► stand for I forget anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► traditional you know Mac user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► the window style user interface for PCs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► that everyone is used to and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► things you talked about Marco were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► the edge swiping and how Notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► Center works and all the weird gestures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► or whatever like all that is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► necessary by the simplified iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► interface that doesn't have essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► chrome there's no menu bar the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► title bars there's no scroll bars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► that that's an advantage of iOS but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► way PC operating systems get around all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11 ◼   ► these things is you don't have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► any weird gestures if you want I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16 ◼   ► just look at this like Notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► Center on the Mac it's an icon in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► menu bar it has a privileged place on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► the menu but then put the menu bar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► always there and an icon is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► you can bring cursor over and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► there's always visible interface element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► and it slides in from the right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► very much like an iOS interface element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32 ◼   ► but you deal with it like a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► interface element even though you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► actually slide it with two fingers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► whatever to make it appear on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► there's a place for visible UI to be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► all this stuff that's what window.chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► is that's what you know I mean they kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► of wanted a little in that direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► about bringing tabs to iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► whereas Safari has actual tabs like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► where that was kind of weird like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► where'd that come from there's no title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► bars or scroll bars or window widgets or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:52 ◼   ► menu bar but guess what tabs appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► they turn out to be great so maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57 ◼   ► some chrome will start creeping into iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► as a solution and we kind of do it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► the statusbar - hey you want to zoom to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► the top of really long document you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► tap the status bar which we cheat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► decide is a giant button in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► scenarios because it's convenient to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10 ◼   ► have a thing that you can press it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► the screen that does an operation so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► keeping an eye on this that's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16 ◼   ► talking for a topic that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18 ◼   ► based on a bug I'm using I was loving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► my iPad and I am using the most features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24 ◼   ► and I'm hitting a lot of the same pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:27 ◼   ► points albeit to a much lesser degree as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29 ◼   ► all the super heavy iOS users because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► mean I think about this sometimes think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34 ◼   ► about this when I was listening to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► of those podcast you've all using my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► iPad I'm like people think of me it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39 ◼   ► Big Mac head and I do love my Mac and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► the the thing that I care about the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► but on a day to day basis I forget I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► on my phone I spend more time with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► iPad than my Mac easy when I'm not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► work when I'm at work obvious that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:52 ◼   ► true and I'm work it's you know I've sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► in front of the Mac whole day but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55 ◼   ► I'm not at work like on weekends I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► my iPad way more than my Mac and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► phone probably more than my iPad so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03 ◼   ► think it's just everyone's reality these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05 ◼   ► days so I'm not I'm I even though I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► not what you know heavy iOS user in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11 ◼   ► I need to use it for my work and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► annoyed if this thing interferes my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14 ◼   ► ability to perform supposed to get desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:15 ◼   ► I do spend a lot of time in it and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► someone well versed in the ways of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► Mac and PC style operating systems I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► I do feel those limitations actually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► you know a little bit of a tangent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► that note one of the reasons why I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► pushing myself to try to do more on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34 ◼   ► iPad is because if I can set things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► in such a way that I can get more of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40 ◼   ► work done on an iPad that also probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► means I can get more of my work done on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45 ◼   ► my iPhone and my phone is always with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► I'm always given chances where I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► use it where I wouldn't have a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► use my computer and so anything I do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► benefit my iPad working life will almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► certainly help my iPhone working life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► which will help my working life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► regardless of what I think of the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► so it like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► or you know a mostly or entirely Mack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10 ◼   ► head like John or I or Casey that is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► reason to investigate productive options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► for yourself on the iPad is that it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20 ◼   ► it'll help you in general on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► to one other item I had an iOS 11 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► has been not a stumbling block but one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► of one of the things that I felt most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► immediately and continue to feel is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► keyboard the new keyboard and iOS 11 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35 ◼   ► it's mostly just muscle memory because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:36 ◼   ► using iOS keyboards for so long I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► become accustomed to where things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► especially like and when you type your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43 ◼   ► passwords and stuff you kind of memorize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► the pattern of where things are right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► now an iOS keyboard like the way you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► know like and they move stuff around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► iOS 11 keyboard they moved lots of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► around like the punctuation characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► and how you get it special characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58 ◼   ► and the the flick thing where they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01 ◼   ► you can get to like the number symbol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03 ◼   ► you know how to switch the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► keyboard into like number mode the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► little number is like grayed out above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► one of the letters like one over the Q [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:11 ◼   ► wherever the hell it is I don't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► iOS 11 device in front of me and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15 ◼   ► get to that by putting your finger on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17 ◼   ► the key that you're gonna hit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19 ◼   ► instead of picking it up slide it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► downward and as you do that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► higher item on the key like slides down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:27 ◼   ► it becomes bold to indicate if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30 ◼   ► to release now you go to get a one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:31 ◼   ► instead of a letter and then you release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32 ◼   ► when I first saw that feature described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:37 ◼   ► and the WWC I thought it meant to flick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► up so as soon as I first installed iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► 11 and I saw this keyboard I'm flicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► up on all the keys and it's not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► anything yeah let's flick down and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► think them probably makes more sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48 ◼   ► because as you slide them you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► the key cap changing of what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52 ◼   ► what you're gonna get at least I'm again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► I'm doing on the iPad I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:54 ◼   ► it doesn't the phone so I do like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:57 ◼   ► flicking things but I cannot find the - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► for the life of me I'm like where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01 ◼   ► hell up I'm already switched into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03 ◼   ► punctuation mode and then I can't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► the - I need to just not switch into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► punctuation mode and like pull down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► X or whatever the hell it is now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► thought I would have remapped but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► guess using my iPhone which is still on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14 ◼   ► iOS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► it's not allowing me to remap so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► say that uh for all the people haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► tried on iOS 11 be warned that adjusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► to the new keyboard might take a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27 ◼   ► doing I just can't wait until all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► devices are I always eleven because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30 ◼   ► I can just convert and just forget the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► old keyboard the new keyboard is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33 ◼   ► I really do like the flicking I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34 ◼   ► need to break myself of these old stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36 ◼   ► habits of like having to switch modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38 ◼   ► right it's much better to just remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► all the flick things are inflicted them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42 ◼   ► that's great I still used it like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► so I'm looking forward to it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:48 ◼   ► once my beach trip in August is over I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51 ◼   ► will absolutely put whatever the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► beta is on on my iPad but I am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► touching my phone with this thing until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58 ◼   ► it's done done and I don't touch my iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► with it until I'm done traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► perfectly safe for iPads yeah and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06 ◼   ► hate your a pen I don't eat my iPad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► is fake news fake news I don't hate my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► iPad I just don't love it as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► IIIi don't know because when you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► the beach as I'm doing at some point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► August you never know what the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21 ◼   ► situation is and in all likelihood if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► there isn't internet in the house I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► be able to tether off my phone but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► like having the backup of my iPad which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► is on a different network and thus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33 ◼   ► don't want to mess with anything just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► be safe although the last time I heard a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► podcaster talk about this it was Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38 ◼   ► early and he lasted approximately three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40 ◼   ► seconds before he caved in put iOS 11 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► one of his 17 iPads so it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► gonna happen end up happening before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2745">TS</a>]

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00:48:24 ◼   ► talk about iPhone rumors this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► time of year where everything seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► amp up and and things and the rumor mill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30 ◼   ► seems to get ever more aggressive and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33 ◼   ► the last few days as we record this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► recording on the Wednesday the 5th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37 ◼   ► there's been some more rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► you literally around touch ID there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► been a lot of waffling which Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44 ◼   ► doesn't know anything about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► whether or not there will be touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► where will it be will be on the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► under the screen will be on the front in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49 ◼   ► the chin it will be on the back how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► angry are all the Apple users going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► be if it's on the back and/or Willy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57 ◼   ► maybe not exist at all some in Chi quo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► has said on the new iPhone that has OLED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► which is everyone is assuming is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► to be called iPhone Pro they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► that there will not be any touch ID at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► all and instead it will use some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► face detection including depth mapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17 ◼   ► in order to authenticate you I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► know how I feel about this my initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24 ◼   ► reaction is no that's garbage my second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26 ◼   ► reaction is well if Apple was gonna ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► it I'm sure it'll be fine and my third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32 ◼   ► reaction is basically the entirety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34 ◼   ► this week's connected where they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37 ◼   ► through this that this this face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► detection thing and I think all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► them kind of went through all five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2982">TS</a>]

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00:49:53 ◼   ► eventually to the acceptance like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► guess this might be better a whole show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► on it but did anybody say my face is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00 ◼   ► passport verify me yeah nicely done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02 ◼   ► nicely no I don't think yes remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:08 ◼   ► that Mike hated that movie mati I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3008">TS</a>]

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00:50:14 ◼   ► terrible it's terrible that Mike hated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:15 ◼   ► great movie freakin green well I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18 ◼   ► hear that episode but I thought this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► still I say we're far enough out now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► that these rumors about what will or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25 ◼   ► won't be on this phone are still mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► up as Gruber pointed out this week like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► pretty sure Apple knows what's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32 ◼   ► on this phone at this point but we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► know exactly what's gonna be on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3034">TS</a>]

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00:50:39 ◼   ► about the fingerprint scanner on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3039">TS</a>]

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00:50:42 ◼   ► the front of the everyone seems to agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:43 ◼   ► that the whole front of this phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3043">TS</a>]

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00:50:46 ◼   ► room for an actual home button even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► though home button that doesn't move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3048">TS</a>]

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00:50:51 ◼   ► the iPhone 7 so it's like well if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:55 ◼   ► can't do a fingerprint scanner on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► the screen they'll do it on the back but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► here are the problems with the ones in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3059">TS</a>]

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00:51:01 ◼   ► them on the back of it's fine again we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:02 ◼   ► had that whole show on that topic this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► is the new twist oh never mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► fingerprint stuff that's passe it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► gonna scan your face and this this seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► like a lot of confusion in a short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► period of time about how we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► unlock our phones so from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20 ◼   ► perspective on the outside of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21 ◼   ► people trying to leak things and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► rumors cycling through surely we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► getting these rumors like a six month to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:31 ◼   ► a year delay of like things that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► has considered and investigated for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► upcoming iPhone but it Apple has picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39 ◼   ► something and boy I'll find out why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3099">TS</a>]

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00:51:43 ◼   ► that none of the rumors so far present a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:49 ◼   ► product that we all agree that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3109">TS</a>]

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00:51:54 ◼   ► of them are like hmm well you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:58 ◼   ► we we talked about the fingerprint thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:01 ◼   ► on the back or USBC on the bottom like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:04 ◼   ► you think about it and it seems kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07 ◼   ► weird and there's always some downside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► and you're not sure and there could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► cool upsides but it's to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► several times over the past few months I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► found myself thinking why are we doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► all screen on the front of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► again like remind me again what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► getting out of this because there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► lot of difficulties and you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► is giving themselves lots of challenges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► right and what we heard about this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:36 ◼   ► know the OLED all screen phone for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► years was like oh it didn't make it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► year because they couldn't they couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► sort this stuff out right and so Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► won't release this until they come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► with a way to do this and I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49 ◼   ► know the iPhone 7 year was like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:50 ◼   ► was gonna be here for y'all screen phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► nope never mind it's actually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► they couldn't do it and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:55 ◼   ► couldn't get the fingerprint scanner to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:56 ◼   ► work through the thing they couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58 ◼   ► the camera to work through the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► you know whatever the rumour excuse was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02 ◼   ► it's not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► right but everyone seems to say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► the year the OLED all screen phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► going to come out and we're all waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► to see okay how did Apple solve all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► those problems and every potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► rumored solution seems weird the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► recognition one seems the most Apple II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► to me because it's kind of like cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► the Gordian knot of having to touch your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► body to something to unlock your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► it's like nope no don't worry about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► touching don't worry about it at all not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30 ◼   ► on the front screen not on the back it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► will you know will just happen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► magic it'll read your face and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► way the same depth sensors can be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► for the fake background blur effect too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► so we you know we put the hardware in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44 ◼   ► there and it's great and we'll use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:45 ◼   ► for all this and it's better than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:46 ◼   ► fingerprint because it has more points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48 ◼   ► of recognition and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► but you know again I didn't listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► the podcast you were referring to but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► I kind of feel the same the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► trepidation about about something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► requires line of sight like that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► that's what everyone immediately thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► about it's like what about all the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08 ◼   ► i unlock my phone when I can't see my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10 ◼   ► face and all the rumors like don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► when it's laying on the table it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► still be able to see your face it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► a real big wide-angle lens on it it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► pick up your face and you know or then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► you're like well what about when I when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► I exist near the phone but I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► it to a lot unlock based on my face oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► don't worry you'll have to hit a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► you'll have to hit a button and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► will do recognition or whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► these are all things where you want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► Apple magic to come in like just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► touch ID seem like a thing that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► terrible and not work and Apple I'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► pretty much hit it out of the park would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► touch ID like it was if you told told us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► about touch I'd be like where you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► the rumors we'd be like that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► cool but I've never seen that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► really well and guess what Apple made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► work really well and then they fixed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► again and made it work even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► I love touch ID I think I said him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► the you were talking about our favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► tech products that the iPhone 7 was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56 ◼   ► favorite tech product and I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► fast touch ID I loved it loved it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► much I still love it if face recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► makes me do the same thing think like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► this I thought this was gonna be a crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► technology because no one's ever done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► well but guess what Apple finally did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08 ◼   ► well and it's awesome that's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► case scenario if this is as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► touch ID just right now I'm still in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13 ◼   ► doubting phase yeah I I really nothing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:16 ◼   ► have heard so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► about facial recognition speculation has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► made me say oh that sounds better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23 ◼   ► touch ID like touch ID is great it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► really well it works the vast majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► of the time the second-generation one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► got even better and it's it's so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:34 ◼   ► and it does solve a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► problems like it like you mentioned like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37 ◼   ► what if you are there but you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► to authorize something like with touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► ID you can be physically present on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44 ◼   ► phone but you can be presented with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► sheet or chenna with a lock screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48 ◼   ► you can decline to authorize something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► if you don't want to authorize at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► moment with facial recognition there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:53 ◼   ► would have to be another step you'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► to like you know hit a button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57 ◼   ► screen or something like that it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► there are ways this is worse you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► touch ID works no matter how you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► holding the phone even if the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04 ◼   ► still in your pocket you can unlock it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06 ◼   ► with touch ID to do something you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08 ◼   ► unlock it as you are taking it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10 ◼   ► your pocket before you are fully holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► it up which saves time you can unlock it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15 ◼   ► in any lighting conditions you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► like it is it is so incredibly versatile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► and it works in so many ways that I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:24 ◼   ► that what we're moving to with whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► come whatever comes in the new phone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► know if we're actually gonna get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31 ◼   ► touch ID which by the way I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► entirely sure that I thought I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► believe these rumors and we'll get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36 ◼   ► that in a second but in in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► recent Apple product developments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42 ◼   ► because so much of the low-hanging fruit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► of modern hardware has been picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► already we we are so often having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:52 ◼   ► make progress only by making certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54 ◼   ► things worse or by giving up certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57 ◼   ► things that we're not quite ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► give up yet and we do this in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:01 ◼   ► get the new hotness we we judge okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:04 ◼   ► well I really want my phone to be not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07 ◼   ► bigger phone but to have a bigger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09 ◼   ► so I guess I'll give up X Y & Z is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:13 ◼   ► is that by the way when I asked before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► what do remind me again why we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► about this all screen thing is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20 ◼   ► is the only one they're just like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► more pixels that's it yeah it's fitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► a bigger screen in a smaller phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► that's that's what it is I'm there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► I'm thinking that there are other that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► the main thing I think there's at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► a couple other small potential things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► mean that's a big thing but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► simplification of kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► simplification of making the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43 ◼   ► screamed with the exception of the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► button was such a vast simplification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► over you know the Blackberry or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► that going a step farther and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► it's just all screen is you know further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:54 ◼   ► in Johnny I've you know distilling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► thing to its essence getting rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► extraneous stuff can you you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► you with trying to make your app with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04 ◼   ► settings like this is this is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► the drive part of the simplification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► drive and the idea that this phone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► know the rumors was delayed because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► couldn't pull it off but then now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► what we're talking about is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15 ◼   ► keep talking about the brow you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17 ◼   ► thing like where the cameras are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18 ◼   ► whatever because they can't get them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► go through the screen it's like are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► kind of like the laptops are you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24 ◼   ► grasping for the bigger screen on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:28 ◼   ► smaller phone and at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► you're like look we're gonna do bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► screen now smartphone and we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► gonna do it and we're gonna make it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34 ◼   ► we missed last year we're gonna do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36 ◼   ► this year no matter what it takes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► that doesn't doesn't excite me that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:41 ◼   ► I have to say like it might look cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► but I would prefer that they delay for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► third year if they can't get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:48 ◼   ► issues worked out and you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► they haven't shipped and again we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:51 ◼   ► no idea they may have hit this out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53 ◼   ► the park and maybe the delay was exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► you know it'll be fine but I am the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58 ◼   ► I hear about potential compromises the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► less excited I am about I get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3541">TS</a>]

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01:02:08 ◼   ► hesitant to believe this rumor and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3728">TS</a>]

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01:02:15 ◼   ► report it and Ming Chi quo has a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:18 ◼   ► good record but his sources tend to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:22 ◼   ► you know supply chain sources only and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:26 ◼   ► he doesn't have a perfect record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28 ◼   ► he often misses the story and he often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► predicts things that are wild and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► don't come true the entire Apple rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► game for a few years there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41 ◼   ► seemingly reporting on every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► major product launch before it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► you know and we all joked about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► Tim Cook doubling down on secrecy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:49 ◼   ► couple years ago when he said that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:50 ◼   ► it really does seem like that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52 ◼   ► happened and you know in the last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► or two we are seeing very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57 ◼   ► substantial leaks and and you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► fewer like lead parts and everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► we are basing all of our discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:06 ◼   ► about this this year's presumed new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► iPhone on almost zero good information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► like there's almost nothing solid out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► there there are still no credible parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► leaks and for this point in the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22 ◼   ► that's saying something you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23 ◼   ► those I've been keeping up with a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3803">TS</a>]

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01:03:27 ◼   ► are arranged vertically in all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► things I'm assuming at this point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30 ◼   ► that is a pretty accurate representation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32 ◼   ► even if it's not a real parts leak yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► I mean III think that's plausible but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► like that's not that's not that big of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► thing you know it has two cameras you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42 ◼   ► can hold the phone in an orientation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3822">TS</a>]

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01:03:51 ◼   ► vertical and it still works like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53 ◼   ► the big deal that means nothing and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3833">TS</a>]

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01:04:01 ◼   ► pretty solid everywhere but that has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► converged on like no one's agreeing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05 ◼   ► any of these things it seems like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► tried a bunch of stuff for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3847">TS</a>]

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01:04:13 ◼   ► has a credible report out there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► indicates what direction they take show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3856">TS</a>]

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01:04:26 ◼   ► this fall someone's gonna be OLED and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► it's got more screen for Less front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► place that probably is not gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3872">TS</a>]

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01:04:50 ◼   ► times by summertime we were seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53 ◼   ► credible parts leaks and not even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55 ◼   ► small number we're seeing like starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► to see substantial numbers of credible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3897">TS</a>]

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01:05:13 ◼   ► a rumor come out even from somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3913">TS</a>]

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01:05:35 ◼   ► wrong less than half the time but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38 ◼   ► not a very cute record still like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:41 ◼   ► standards for what makes a good record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:42 ◼   ► and in Apple rumors are pretty low so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44 ◼   ► which part of this is the part you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46 ◼   ► believe the the face recognition or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48 ◼   ► touch ID all of that patient activation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:51 ◼   ► no touch ID rear touch ID what materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54 ◼   ► the case our unit is gonna be made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55 ◼   ► what the sides of the case we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► be made of I don't buy it whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59 ◼   ► there's gonna be that big notch in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:00 ◼   ► top for the cameras and stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► didn't interfere with the status bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:03 ◼   ► right now I am not confident in any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► those rumors to say oh yeah that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:10 ◼   ► likely let's talk about it as if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► gonna happen like I it's because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► there really is no coherent direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► that everything is focusing in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:19 ◼   ► there's no direction as how the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:22 ◼   ► that we get this whole this complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:24 ◼   ► screen phone to work right direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:27 ◼   ► and that again that is interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29 ◼   ► and we saw there were there were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► like you know allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:32 ◼   ► parce earlier from a safety inspector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► who it was inspecting u.s. customs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36 ◼   ► packages and they look they look pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38 ◼   ► questionable it's probably fake but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:41 ◼   ► did present like an interesting idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:42 ◼   ► like what if the new phone looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44 ◼   ► this and it looked nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46 ◼   ► yeah it looks plausible and it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► here's how you can here so you can cram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52 ◼   ► a big screen that is still rectangular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54 ◼   ► that doesn't have a weird little cutout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56 ◼   ► on the top for the camera and stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► know here's here's how you can shove a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► big screen into a phone body that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:02 ◼   ► still not that much bigger and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► nice that's fine but it was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06 ◼   ► fake and it were probably was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08 ◼   ► different phone or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10 ◼   ► you like you can't draw any real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12 ◼   ► information on any of this any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:13 ◼   ► things and this year more than ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15 ◼   ► because everything is so all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17 ◼   ► map it seems like either Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19 ◼   ► gotten so good on secrecy that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21 ◼   ► rumors are all based on total BS and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:24 ◼   ► not to say that like you know mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26 ◼   ► Berman and makes you go over making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:27 ◼   ► things up but that they are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29 ◼   ► grasping at straws and and that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31 ◼   ► they're trying really hard to extract a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:34 ◼   ► coherent story out of very minimal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:38 ◼   ► questionable information or that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:42 ◼   ► phone is super late and that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:45 ◼   ► going to be coming out or available in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:46 ◼   ► September or October and in which case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49 ◼   ► who knows what's going on with it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51 ◼   ► think it's more likely that it is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53 ◼   ► out this fall that secrecy has just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55 ◼   ► gotten better and that they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:58 ◼   ► getting less and less information to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00 ◼   ► report on and they're trying like mad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:03 ◼   ► try to get stories out of whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:04 ◼   ► have oh it's a safe bet to say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► new iPhone were the Typhon Pro wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► the held like the fancy expensive all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11 ◼   ► screen on will be supply constraint like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14 ◼   ► more than usual because all we've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17 ◼   ► about it is things that sound like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:20 ◼   ► would be difficult to manufacture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:21 ◼   ► because they're unprecedented as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23 ◼   ► an iPhone is concerned and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:26 ◼   ► rumors and delays and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28 ◼   ► it's gonna it's gonna be hard to get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30 ◼   ► of those it'll be at least as hard as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32 ◼   ► getting a gold iPhone maybe even harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34 ◼   ► and I guess they control that by making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36 ◼   ► the price more cuz obviously it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:37 ◼   ► more expensive than the other ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:38 ◼   ► maybe that will help control demand a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:40 ◼   ► little bit but I think that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:41 ◼   ► safe bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:41 ◼   ► and for these rumors I'm not sure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:45 ◼   ► to believe out of them all I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:46 ◼   ► but I will say that face recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48 ◼   ► sounds like something that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► an apple style thing that it's a type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:53 ◼   ► like I said what touch ID type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55 ◼   ► that sounds cool but every time we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57 ◼   ► seen it done before it's been crappy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59 ◼   ► if it worked well would be nice to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► doesn't mean you have to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:04 ◼   ► touch ID to do it or whatever but face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► recognition definitely seems like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:08 ◼   ► Apple feature is it an Apple feature for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10 ◼   ► this year I don't know but I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:14 ◼   ► would it would fit in well and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16 ◼   ► make Apple's products better if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18 ◼   ► actually worked on that and got it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:19 ◼   ► the point like they did with touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21 ◼   ► where it passes over that barrier of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23 ◼   ► being a technical curiosity and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25 ◼   ► something that just naturally becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27 ◼   ► part of a life and we take for granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28 ◼   ► especially if it's not the only way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:31 ◼   ► unlock your phone if you can incorporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:34 ◼   ► all of those sensors and all the inputs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:37 ◼   ► and user preferences I can imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40 ◼   ► phone that supports face recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42 ◼   ► being better than one that just supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:45 ◼   ► touch ID if done really well so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47 ◼   ► actually I'm you know I'm actually kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49 ◼   ► of excited for that being true trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:53 ◼   ► forget things like the fire phone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:54 ◼   ► Amazon they tried to do stuff with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56 ◼   ► multiple cameras that was just a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58 ◼   ► mess and just assuming like Apple just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00 ◼   ► won't ship it if it's crabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01 ◼   ► yeah and Samsung also had face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:02 ◼   ► recognition to it and in one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04 ◼   ► recent phones and and the review is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06 ◼   ► crapped all over because it was terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:07 ◼   ► and they didn't hear about it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:10 ◼   ► and the good thing is like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:11 ◼   ► you know Apple can ship a phone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► depth sensor and just said no we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16 ◼   ► doing we couldn't get facial recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:17 ◼   ► to earth and damn but hey guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19 ◼   ► that depth sensor is still really useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21 ◼   ► for features that we already have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23 ◼   ► will make what does it call I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25 ◼   ► forgetting the name of the fake depth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:26 ◼   ► field that they they call it portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28 ◼   ► mode yeah portrait mode it'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30 ◼   ► portrait mode better and so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33 ◼   ► know it's not a waste of hardware and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35 ◼   ► will not be like well look at like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37 ◼   ► was the time like an iPod Touch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► something shipped with a cutout for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40 ◼   ► camera would go but there was no like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:44 ◼   ► this won't be like that if they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46 ◼   ► depth sensors in there which this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48 ◼   ► also be the origin of these rumors say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:49 ◼   ► they have depth sensors there I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51 ◼   ► they're using haven't raised a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:52 ◼   ► recognition like one thing supply chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54 ◼   ► doesn't know about a software I'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55 ◼   ► you that because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:56 ◼   ► in someplace else so also you know oils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58 ◼   ► uses deaf sensing AR kit hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:01 ◼   ► like there's lots of reasons why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03 ◼   ► phone could use depth sensing on front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05 ◼   ► and back cameras that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06 ◼   ► necessarily just for this I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:09 ◼   ► could be using you this M depth sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10 ◼   ► just to get the portrait mode on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► selfie camera like that's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15 ◼   ► unreasonable like that that could be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:18 ◼   ► right but the ones you have the depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:19 ◼   ► sensor like that almost guarantees that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:22 ◼   ► they looked into face recognition cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24 ◼   ► you're you're you're almost all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26 ◼   ► there at that point like you've got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:28 ◼   ► core ml you've got these machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30 ◼   ► learning things you've got this vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:31 ◼   ► framework where the hell it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33 ◼   ► you've got a AR kit you've got portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► mode like everything is already there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:38 ◼   ► say of course Apple has been looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40 ◼   ► into face recognition like they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:41 ◼   ► all the pieces the question is oh is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43 ◼   ► did they did it get to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45 ◼   ► they're gonna ship it and we'll see but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:46 ◼   ► I actually I kind of hope they do have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► working is I think it would be a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:51 ◼   ► cool reason to try the new iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53 ◼   ► because I have some confidence that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55 ◼   ► won't ship it if it's crap that they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:56 ◼   ► ship it if it's cool and great and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:59 ◼   ► just really hoping that it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:00 ◼   ► only way to unlock it because that'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02 ◼   ► weird like you don't what Apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:03 ◼   ► want to happen is for its expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05 ◼   ► iPhone pro like the fancy one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07 ◼   ► supposed to be the object of desire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:09 ◼   ► lust causing everybody to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11 ◼   ► noise even the people who you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14 ◼   ► target audience of like reddit is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16 ◼   ► like I do want the fanciest and best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:19 ◼   ► phone but this has weird compromises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSyrtCQ/4339">TS</a>]