The Incomparable

313: The Ziggurats of Yavin IV

 

  the incomparable number 313 August 2016 [TS]

  welcome everybody to the uncomfortable [TS]

  i'm your host and still now before we [TS]

  get started this week I wanna do a [TS]

  disclaimer here I know that the star [TS]

  wars road one trailer came out this week [TS]

  and everybody expects us to do one of [TS]

  those endless trailer deconstruction [TS]

  things that we sometimes do but I talked [TS]

  to John siracusa he did watch it which [TS]

  is a big step for him but he said he was [TS]

  sore too busy doing other things and [TS]

  didn't really have a lot to say about it [TS]

  and thought he would just sort of let it [TS]

  ride and save his thoughts until the [TS]

  movie came out and I talked to Dan more [TS]

  and he's on vacation and it just kind of [TS]

  didn't happen and you know we can't [TS]

  cover every trailer so anyway we will [TS]

  definitely cover the movie when it comes [TS]

  out in december but until then we're [TS]

  just going to move on and talk about [TS]

  this [TS]

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  the uncomfortable number 313 artists [TS]

  it is a period of Civil War rebel [TS]

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  have won their first victory against the [TS]

  evening comfortable empire during the [TS]

  battle a rebel host managed to steal [TS]

  secret plans to the Empire's ultimate [TS]

  weapon the road one trailer to analysis [TS]

  a podcast with enough power to destroy [TS]

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  yes hello everybody and welcome back to [TS]

  the incomparable and another of our [TS]

  insanely over-indulgence analyses of a [TS]

  90-second Star Wars trailer [TS]

  however as befits a new kind of movie [TS]

  starring a bunch of rebels this episode [TS]

  is also different I'm your squad leader [TS]

  anthony johnson and today I have [TS]

  assembled a ragtag group of misfits scum [TS]

  and villains that includes experts [TS]

  strategist chip Sabbath if this movie [TS]

  doesn't include the lesser lack of [TS]

  Dathomir as presented in Star Wars [TS]

  Galaxies the MMO it sucks [TS]

  check and munitions expert Liz miles i [TS]

  expect many references to HK 47 who is [TS]

  this pretty whose successor is featured [TS]

  in the MMO at night at the old republic [TS]

  the other and better star wars won your [TS]

  expectations will be met and last but [TS]

  definitely not least elite marksman [TS]

  moisture jaan down with the legends [TS]

  universe up with the new expanded [TS]

  universe all can travel [TS]

  alright so let us start with a few [TS]

  general thoughts about these movies and [TS]

  the trailer before we go to the sort of [TS]

  blow-by-blow frame by frame and the [TS]

  first thing that we have to raise is the [TS]

  question where do you stand [TS]

  crawl or no crawl i personally don't [TS]

  think that will be a crawl on these [TS]

  anthology movies but what about you guys [TS]

  I don't think there should be a crawl I [TS]

  think that this is the the logic that [TS]

  the that Kathleen Kennedy has given past [TS]

  interviews you know they were so they're [TS]

  still deciding whether or not it will [TS]

  have a crawl but her logic for their not [TS]

  being one was this is not a saga this is [TS]

  an anthology it's a side story so I [TS]

  think it should i think it should just [TS]

  go right into the action I fear nothing [TS]

  all is as the force wills it [TS]

  I i had a very strong opinion once upon [TS]

  a time [TS]

  that it absolutely had to have a crawl [TS]

  in it I'll be fine if it doesn't but [TS]

  even if even if there are a lot of other [TS]

  signifiers that make it different than [TS]

  the saga films that we've become [TS]

  accustomed to the only films that we [TS]

  really have to use as examples i would [TS]

  be fine if the crawl is something we [TS]

  just get at the beginning of any of [TS]

  these adventures [TS]

  I you know I i I'm very you know at the [TS]

  balance point of the force about it i [TS]

  guess as it were for for nostalgia sake [TS]

  even I don't think they've got to keep [TS]

  the thing in but it's it's a nice note [TS]

  for folks who may be a little bit [TS]

  confused about when this happens what's [TS]

  going on who think that [TS]

  wait a minute how is this happening [TS]

  after episode 7 isn't Darth Vader dead [TS]

  those who aren't paying as much [TS]

  attention as many of us hyper nerds do [TS]

  the crawl is something that I i can see [TS]

  as ending up winning out in that series [TS]

  of arguments which we all know have [TS]

  happened exactly how contentious they [TS]

  were nobody knows but I could I could [TS]

  see the kraal winning out and [TS]

  specifically as as an opportunity to set [TS]

  the time and and overall setting of the [TS]

  movie for people who who they assume [TS]

  haven't been watching tumblr for 18 [TS]

  months but is that I mean and I see your [TS]

  point but does that really is there [TS]

  anybody who is going to go into a movie [TS]

  like this not knowing anything at all [TS]

  about it you know and not knowing over [TS]

  this one set before the first movie or [TS]

  the hand so that one is oh its Jung Han [TS]

  Solo you know where my money and you [TS]

  know my wife had no idea and would have [TS]

  walked into the theater which is no idea [TS]

  really now distributed but she's got [TS]

  another four months of media saturation [TS]

  to somehow trying to avoid to still not [TS]

  know that you know come to SMU see the [TS]

  shoot maybe see ads on TV but otherwise [TS]

  you know she's not reading up on [TS]

  articles are reading interviews or [TS]

  anything like that [TS]

  I you know that's that's that's the [TS]

  thing for me is that as they do the [TS]

  anthology films in between the saga [TS]

  films having the crawling place [TS]

  as as a means of telling people when [TS]

  this is happening before or after this [TS]

  or that or the other that that's that's [TS]

  what i can see being the the functional [TS]

  use of the crawl the reason to use the [TS]

  kraal rather than just well star wars [TS]

  movie start with a crawl [TS]

  i guess i guess but i don't know what is [TS]

  what do you think I i have no strong [TS]

  strip club control it starts with an [TS]

  apology week it was in the regular star [TS]

  wars running movies with an episode [TS]

  number then if it didn't have 1i would [TS]

  find that infuriating but when it comes [TS]

  to these ones i think i have no strong [TS]

  feelings which depresses me deeply as if [TS]

  there's one thing I can't stand someone [TS]

  sitting on a body fat and unfortunately [TS]

  I can't bring myself to move to either [TS]

  side you know in Louisville cool and lua [TS]

  crawl could we have that newsreel [TS]

  announcer type voice from the beginning [TS]

  of those clone wars episode of girl that [TS]

  they could they couldn't they could [TS]

  bring Greg Proops back from episode 11 [TS]

  of the pod racing announcers you know i [TS]

  love Star Wars story that was that [TS]

  groups i had nodded man Cruz was one of [TS]

  the one of the two heads of the of the [TS]

  progress and one of my favorite episodes [TS]

  of a podcast called I would i was there [TS]

  something like that i'll find it and [TS]

  give it to you for the show notes but [TS]

  him talking about the experience of [TS]

  being told [TS]

  all right Craig there's this job and [TS]

  you're gonna want to take it but I can't [TS]

  tell you anything else about ok and then [TS]

  he shows up and all right i'm in Star [TS]

  Wars I have no idea what I'm doing and [TS]

  I'm going into a booth and i'm going to [TS]

  be saying these lines and then i'm done [TS]

  right guns and he became part of Star [TS]

  Wars lore one other one other call [TS]

  option [TS]

  it could just be a really short crawl [TS]

  that goes this is not about the boffins [TS]

  gotten to him forget that God both and [TS]

  the movie wrong deathstone um I've [TS]

  learned I've learned just how many of my [TS]

  friends are fake star wars fans running [TS]

  the Burmese those bones jokes oh my god [TS]

  it's an easy mistake to make [TS]

  I had I didn't see out like that it did [TS]

  have that thought and then I realized oh [TS]

  hang on a second wrong movie role models [TS]

  that isn't and this one is isn't in the [TS]

  first one so of course the campaign yes [TS]

  what's another one to the ones the ones [TS]

  who doubled down on it though the ones [TS]

  who go oh ok I was wrong they can stay [TS]

  but the ones who say no no I know what [TS]

  I'm talking about right but my failings [TS]

  on the crawl is I mean if they don't if [TS]

  they do or don't have one you know [TS]

  regardless i'm not gonna sort of cry [TS]

  into my popcorn or anything but I feel [TS]

  not having to crawl would be a way of [TS]

  improving that these new movies are [TS]

  about nostalgia for a start but also it [TS]

  would be a way of really shaking things [TS]

  up because at the moment like every star [TS]

  wars movie ever has the kraal has the [TS]

  fanfare as the star field and then pans [TS]

  down from the starfield to a ship or a [TS]

  planet or you know something in space [TS]

  imagine if this movie started with a [TS]

  long time ago in a galaxy far far away [TS]

  and then just immediately cut to some [TS]

  somebody running through corridors while [TS]

  sirens are blaring and things explode [TS]

  around them that would be so new so [TS]

  shocking i mean it's not new in [TS]

  cinematic terms but for star wars that [TS]

  would be so on you yes you know that [TS]

  would be upsetting that would be [TS]

  upsetting when I expect the first shot [TS]

  to be a bloody ship that's why I'm going [TS]

  to see stars now I can be upsetting in a [TS]

  good way in his kind of you know shock [TS]

  people out of their comfort [TS]

  well I like my comforts of our comfy [TS]

  here i want my ship and want the distell [TS]

  jizz well goddammit so that's why I'm [TS]

  going I'm not going for their crazy new [TS]

  ideas I just want delicious recycled [TS]

  nineteen seventies air the eighties sci [TS]

  fi the point of a comfort zone is that [TS]

  it's coming just want the Dirty Dozen in [TS]

  space that's all i want is the Dirty [TS]

  Dozen space since apparently we couldn't [TS]

  get a good dirty dozen with [TS]

  supervillains cie just thinking about [TS]

  the anthology movies in general when [TS]

  they first announced that this is what [TS]

  they were going to do I wasn't too [TS]

  infused i mean i was immediately against [TS]

  the idea but I wasn't particularly [TS]

  enthused because i was like Mary ok [TS]

  whatever but then when the very first [TS]

  trailer for this the teaser trailer for [TS]

  this immediately had me interested [TS]

  partly because just a bit because of the [TS]

  story that there [TS]

  they're doing but then this trailer [TS]

  especially this trailer really got me [TS]

  and I started to think I mean maybe it's [TS]

  hyperbolic it to say that I might [TS]

  actually enjoy these more than the saga [TS]

  movies that's probably not true but I do [TS]

  feel I'm going to enjoy these a lot [TS]

  because there is something about these [TS]

  that appeals to the same part of me that [TS]

  the star wars role-playing game appeal [TS]

  to me which is you know this idea of [TS]

  what happens away from the heroes what [TS]

  happens in the other parts of the galaxy [TS]

  that hard and Luke on tin and not just [TS]

  at different times at the same time but [TS]

  just in a different physical place what [TS]

  is happening there but you know I feel I [TS]

  feel like I feel like the diversity of [TS]

  the games is something that they [TS]

  actually have an opportunity in you know [TS]

  this trailer we see a lot more emphasis [TS]

  on the wars part of souls it was like a [TS]

  war film like where Eagles dare or [TS]

  something like that and and i love the [TS]

  notion that who knows we could get we [TS]

  could get a a rogue squadron you know [TS]

  game type movie narrative out of doing [TS]

  something with black squadron from the [TS]

  new twilight saga trilogy of films [TS]

  there's there's no reason they couldn't [TS]

  do a side story that just stars oscar [TS]

  isaac and snapbacks Lee and all those [TS]

  guys there's there's possibility that [TS]

  the han solo movie is going to be [TS]

  treasure island and space which disney [TS]

  tried to do in animated form and failed [TS]

  miserably but as a Star Wars movie maybe [TS]

  it worked great and I I like being able [TS]

  to move away from the the the family [TS]

  saga destined chosen one hero narrative [TS]

  and and get to play around in this [TS]

  universe and interesting ways and we [TS]

  even get you know some of the things [TS]

  that we see more of in this trailer are [TS]

  elements that the George Lucas developed [TS]

  for the Star Wars underworld TV series [TS]

  that never happened and may never happen [TS]

  in the in the form that it was [TS]

  originally envisioned and I you know I i [TS]

  like i like that we're getting to to [TS]

  play with different toys in the set in a [TS]

  in a live-action film way that we've [TS]

  only seen in games like the force [TS]

  unleashed or rogue squadron or knights [TS]

  of the old republic or any of the the [TS]

  various games that have honestly [TS]

  sustained the star wars universe when [TS]

  there have been those big gaps in movie [TS]

  production i was actually referring to [TS]

  the original Western games role-playing [TS]

  game which was released on the 10th [TS]

  anniversary of the original style was [TS]

  way back in the day but that'll jog yeah [TS]

  that's just me showing my age i was i'm [TS]

  i'm literally return of the jedi years [TS]

  old so I'm i apologize for my ignorance [TS]

  babes babes all of you i made the joke [TS]

  at the beginning about star wars [TS]

  galaxies in part because this this [TS]

  trailer actually sort of evokes a bit of [TS]

  that feeling of as you said Anthony you [TS]

  know what's happening in the rest of the [TS]

  world and the this this trailer actually [TS]

  has me I I am genuinely more excited and [TS]

  I loved force awakens but I'm genuinely [TS]

  more excited about this trailer and the [TS]

  only thing that I can put my finger on [TS]

  why that is because that seems so wrong [TS]

  you know this is this is this is slotted [TS]

  in the continuity force awakens was new [TS]

  story and yet up when I was seeing force [TS]

  awakens trailers I was wondering how JJ [TS]

  Abrams was going to screw it up this act [TS]

  this has to fit into the canyon that was [TS]

  established by 26 movies and clone wars [TS]

  not the rest of the expanded universe [TS]

  and all this other stuff although we [TS]

  actually have a clone wars character [TS]

  that appears in this movie but there's a [TS]

  certain amount of this feels comfortable [TS]

  this feels familiar these are the [TS]

  stormtroopers that I that look the most [TS]

  like they did back then most of them [TS]

  this feels like it fits in to the past [TS]

  so it's it's really scratching [TS]

  scratching that nostalgia itch that Liz [TS]

  was talking about I'm a little [TS]

  embarrassed about it myself though [TS]

  because I shouldn't I be excited about [TS]

  the newness the fact that this is a war [TS]

  movie set in the star wars universe that [TS]

  should look so different and yet there's [TS]

  so much of it that looks so familiar [TS]

  right doesn't look different at all yeah [TS]

  i think there's also i think you've [TS]

  touched on something that I i I've only [TS]

  just sort of reeling herself but at your [TS]

  right the one of the one of the things [TS]

  running up to the force awakens was that [TS]

  none of us knew whether it would be any [TS]

  good and we were all sort of bracing [TS]

  ourselves here just in case it was [TS]

  terrible you know and now we know it was [TS]

  good we know we enjoyed it and so I [TS]

  think we're all a bit more relaxed and [TS]

  so when not what we're watching these [TS]

  traders with a different mindset because [TS]

  we watch those trailers going ok this [TS]

  trailer looks good but it could still be [TS]

  terrible and ruin my childhood all over [TS]

  again [TS]

  whereas this trailer we're looking at it [TS]

  and going ok this trailer looks good and [TS]

  they've already done it right once so [TS]

  they're probably gonna do it right again [TS]

  you know I think we've just got a bit [TS]

  more faith and confidence in them [TS]

  yeah and i think one of the main things [TS]

  for me the iphones disc well there is [TS]

  that there's a whole list obviously but [TS]

  there's one of the most disconcerting [TS]

  things about the the second trilogy was [TS]

  the everything looked so clean and [TS]

  changing and unreal but we know from the [TS]

  trailer that's not the case here I mean [TS]

  one of the things I absolutely love with [TS]

  her every character looks as we've been [TS]

  pretty messed up and we got like either [TS]

  modern face or their hair was my stop my [TS]

  okay we still cool but that was like our [TS]

  that's so great [TS]

  the only people who know something in a [TS]

  Mon Mothma and the Imperials are [TS]

  basically yes she's like the only person [TS]

  that he's keeping his which spine [TS]

  because she's like behind the lines but [TS]

  all these people out fighting the actual [TS]

  work so they're not fighting it's not [TS]

  like you're living in magic cgi world [TS]

  that you expect me to believe and why [TS]

  are you making me cry movie why I you [TS]

  know the the thing that I immediately [TS]

  want to jump in with is just the [TS]

  presence of donnie yen one of my [TS]

  favorite martial arts performers and a [TS]

  cinema history having him in this you [TS]

  know that I'm of two minds on the one [TS]

  hand i don't know if any of these [TS]

  characters are going to survive at the [TS]

  same time you know how in what capacity [TS]

  when they show up the 30 years later [TS]

  that we could see them in the saga films [TS]

  but yen's character in particular i'm [TS]

  thinking i mean wouldn't want to be [TS]

  great to just apply some old age makeup [TS]

  and and grading to the hair and and have [TS]

  him show up in episode 8 or 9 right [TS]

  because what why would you just using in [TS]

  11 off [TS]

  movie will be you could say the same [TS]

  about most of the cast in this I mean [TS]

  this is a really really good cars you [TS]

  know for exactly just on a yen it's it's [TS]

  a really good cast so you could say that [TS]

  about all of them I yeah that that's [TS]

  that's exactly where i'm coming from is [TS]

  is you know I started with the end and [TS]

  then I started thinking about basically [TS]

  everyone else and i haven't even seen [TS]

  the movie yet and the franchise's [TS]

  effectively quote-unquote sold me on the [TS]

  toys where I just I want I want you know [TS]

  the these are all characters and I want [TS]

  more than one movie of of story out of [TS]

  them and if it's just one movie and we [TS]

  get some great story out of him that's [TS]

  great if they do more things with with [TS]

  animation that use these characters that [TS]

  be great of course we have a character [TS]

  that that started in animation in in [TS]

  sagar era played by Forest Whitaker this [TS]

  this movie is selling me more and more [TS]

  and more on the very intentional [TS]

  expansion of the universe all around [TS]

  where I don't feel like this is some [TS]

  some add-on that I guess I could watch [TS]

  if I want as a star wars fan it feels as [TS]

  compulsory is the saga films for me [TS]

  where I want to see these other corners [TS]

  of the universe that you know they're [TS]

  there isn't there isn't time or capital [TS]

  for to spend in the photographer in the [TS]

  saga movies [TS]

  one of the things I love about star wars [TS]

  that I've always loved about Star Wars [TS]

  is that along with along with alien [TS]

  actually and blade runner to an extent a [TS]

  really cemented my lifelong love of the [TS]

  lived in sci-fi look I have always and i [TS]

  blame this entirely on Star Wars i have [TS]

  always had real trouble with sort of [TS]

  shiny Gernsback in science fiction you [TS]

  know the sort of old-school Buck Rogers [TS]

  stuff where everything's rocket fins and [TS]

  silver jumpsuits and yeah and these days [TS]

  one of the reasons i don't mind scuffing [TS]

  up my iPhone's because I feel like [TS]

  it makes it more star wars like that it [TS]

  looks like the motherfuckin that's got [TS]

  some scrapes on but these trailers [TS]

  messed up i think these trailers get [TS]

  that across perfectly there is a shot [TS]

  it's not in this trailer is in the [TS]

  teaser [TS]

  there is a shot of gin generoso felicity [TS]

  jones character the main character where [TS]

  she's in she's leaning her head against [TS]

  the window of like a transport of some [TS]

  kind with like streaming in and there's [TS]

  no context I mean you have no idea but [TS]

  the way it's shot and the way the light [TS]

  Falls it could be from like a [TS]

  contemporary war film it could be a shot [TS]

  of somebody going into Fallujah or [TS]

  something you know the rebel base every [TS]

  time we see it apart from the war rooms [TS]

  it looks completely run down and half [TS]

  derelict and I've always loved that [TS]

  about Star Wars and they as they said [TS]

  this prequels you know just looked [TS]

  entirely i mean okay sure it was meant [TS]

  to be a time of the high Republic [TS]

  doesn't matter what even is excellent [TS]

  that in the old republic the delightful [TS]

  game [TS]

  it's aight manages to have that lived-in [TS]

  feel Luke in parts of even the Republic [TS]

  and some bets are quite shiny but the [TS]

  but you know you can play a smuggler [TS]

  you're on the good said you still get [TS]

  your cool shape that looks awesome and [TS]

  all mucky and stop this great and they [TS]

  completely didn't get that with those [TS]

  ones there and even the cartoon which is [TS]

  my other favorite valve not the outside [TS]

  the main continuously Star Wars and Star [TS]

  Wars rebels I didn't really get into [TS]

  course I'm still not seeing the whole of [TS]

  it by keep meaning to because rebels [TS]

  obviously falls on call Morrison takes [TS]

  all that continuity with it and and it's [TS]

  it's so good and it's set in the same [TS]

  time period diseases just a few years [TS]

  before the first movie so they're also [TS]

  out there on the rim with a surviving [TS]

  apprentice and and the rebel pilot and [TS]

  smuggler pellet person and it's great [TS]

  their ships terrible and it's yeah i [TS]

  don't like that everything starship [TS]

  should be falling to pieces of junk a [TS]

  you came here in this you're braver than [TS]

  i thought so let's let's start actually [TS]

  going through the trailer then so we [TS]

  start off with this shot of what we [TS]

  start off with a piano version of the [TS]

  imperial march which is very nice but [TS]

  then we get a shot of [TS]

  a city built on some kind of manmade [TS]

  plateau on yet another desert planet lot [TS]

  of desert plants its towers and these [TS]

  massive enormous like metal walls built [TS]

  up from the rocks surrounding the city [TS]

  with Thai fighters and shuttles soaring [TS]

  over it so we gonna presume it's an [TS]

  imperial city again this is something we [TS]

  haven't really seen yes we have ever had [TS]

  cityscapes especially in the prequels [TS]

  lots of cityscapes there but none of [TS]

  them looked quite like this this looks [TS]

  like a city that kind of grew up [TS]

  organically organically if it was [TS]

  created organically if it was created by [TS]

  giant city growing plants from the mouth [TS]

  of hell [TS]

  I mean I get a bit of a I get a bit of a [TS]

  anton furst gotham city vibe from it [TS]

  oh yeah I could see that I could see [TS]

  that yet and there's this enormous tower [TS]

  at one end of it as well dwarfing [TS]

  everything else which you know i'm going [TS]

  to go ahead and presume that that's some [TS]

  kind of a target for part of the mission [TS]

  or you know that it's important at any [TS]

  rate because it's so enormous [TS]

  it's nice i like a star wars sticks with [TS]

  subtle imagery and and meaning it's it's [TS]

  very well here is such a darling next to [TS]

  the no that's not it said subtleties [TS]

  never really been stalling [TS]

  yeah Forte has it but you know that's a [TS]

  good thing your advice i'm not [TS]

  complaining i I'm very happy with it [TS]

  it's all kind of old school divisions of [TS]

  feet into that this is good this is evil [TS]

  you'll get the kids well you know that [TS]

  my little my little fact that people [TS]

  have complained about that opening shot [TS]

  having an upside-down death star in it [TS]

  really speaks to Star Wars being [TS]

  extremely you know this is this is this [TS]

  is how things are supposed to look at [TS]

  that's why I know that even though there [TS]

  is no upside down in space rocks and [TS]

  tell Donna and I understand that i had [TS]

  the same reaction you know you look at [TS]

  this first shot and I have to keep the [TS]

  fanboy gene and check because we never [TS]

  saw shuttles like those before right [TS]

  you know you know what's good wit what [TS]

  what do you mean you win I've never yes [TS]

  it was the original star wars RPG [TS]

  actually that taught me down is where [TS]

  your feet are in space [TS]

  yeah that's good yea though I i'm the [TS]

  same the ship's if I didn't fly and star [TS]

  wars x-wing computer game at nineteen [TS]

  nineties it doesn't exist [TS]

  it's my head judgment call huh right [TS]

  so--okay i actually would that answers [TS]

  the question was gonna watch later about [TS]

  the the rebel ship so it's going to be [TS]

  doing is it okay so from this we get to [TS]

  a very very short clip of june meeting [TS]

  forest whitaker's character now did I [TS]

  hit did you somebody say that this is a [TS]

  character from Clone Wars [TS]

  yeah it showed up for maybe two three [TS]

  episodes of clone wars back in the day [TS]

  and is now a grizzled veteran i say i [TS]

  had no idea [TS]

  okay well that's interesting because in [TS]

  clone wars does he have big hair is he [TS]

  bowled a shorter hair [TS]

  ok because it's sort of the head in the [TS]

  teaser trailer here when first we could [TS]

  turn up he was bold and he only had a [TS]

  short beard and here he's got quite long [TS]

  beard and lots of hair [TS]

  I Anthony the magic of reissues happy [TS]

  well i was gonna say so presumably [TS]

  either this is just reshoots or you [TS]

  presumably these parts of the two scenes [TS]

  where we see that are far apart knees [TS]

  you know shaved his hair off ready for [TS]

  action or something [TS]

  I was wondering if we might get a sort [TS]

  of Gandalf white wizard scenario there [TS]

  but my don't know because i know nothing [TS]

  about this character i didn't realize [TS]

  that he was an existing character [TS]

  yeah everybody who was a huge clothes [TS]

  Clone Wars fan went completely bonkers [TS]

  when they when they revealed what he [TS]

  looked like they were like this is this [TS]

  is and i had watched clone wars but bits [TS]

  and pieces here and there and so I was [TS]

  saying what what's what's the big deal [TS]

  kids comedian I grandpa doesn't know [TS]

  what's happening [TS]

  so what is the big deal it's that that [TS]

  he was a character from clone wars that [TS]

  was the first time they were they were [TS]

  bringing forward something from one of [TS]

  the animated series into the live action [TS]

  series which they're there really hasn't [TS]

  been especially in the in the case of a [TS]

  person that that that wasn't directly [TS]

  tied to clone wars interacting with the [TS]

  prequels which I look it's General [TS]

  Grievous during the same time period [TS]

  that these movies are set this is a [TS]

  character from well before [TS]

  when this movie is set that's being [TS]

  brought into live action for the first [TS]

  time and and that wasn't that wasn't [TS]

  very loudly trumpeted as oh boy wait [TS]

  till you see this guy for 12 seconds in [TS]

  episode 3 [TS]

  yeah he was a he was a leader of and I [TS]

  haven't seen the episodes in question [TS]

  but he was a leader of the on Darren [TS]

  rebels if i'm pronouncing it correctly [TS]

  and helped lead the resistance movement [TS]

  to victory over the you know the general [TS]

  Grievous's group alongside jet the Jedi [TS]

  ahsoka tano and Anakin Skywalker and [TS]

  just I I get a little bit of a fanboy [TS]

  shiver over that because we saw we saw [TS]

  the last shot of the trailer we saw [TS]

  Darth Vader here right [TS]

  getting those two together might be fun [TS]

  and uncomfortable regular Philip moser [TS]

  like who wanted to be here today but [TS]

  couldn't wants us to point out that he's [TS]

  wearing what is effectively aveda [TS]

  harmonica around his neck and we have no [TS]

  idea what that means i mean is that part [TS]

  of his armor on the show or does this [TS]

  yeah it really does look quite similar [TS]

  anyone has anybody seen the show i'm [TS]

  looking at it doesn't i'm not sure about [TS]

  your own buying it but alright well [TS]

  aside from from people immediately being [TS]

  furious that John Syracuse's and on this [TS]

  recording will be furious that none of [TS]

  us are huge Clone Wars fans so we we w [TS]

  failed right user Star Wars trailer crew [TS]

  clear it with all the ladies doing well [TS]

  yeah forcefully but I'm glad I'm glad [TS]

  that they're doing this if for no other [TS]

  reason you know as much as the in the [TS]

  extended you expanded universe partisans [TS]

  just sort of drive me crazy you know we [TS]

  did if you were an old-school star wars [TS]

  fan you sort of did lose a certain sense [TS]

  of connection and of continuity with all [TS]

  that stuff being taken away [TS]

  I it completely surprises and pleases me [TS]

  that they would take a piece from clone [TS]

  wars and put it in this very expensive [TS]

  very grown up movie [TS]

  yeah they have we have done a lot for [TS]

  clone wars so they obviously holder pray [TS]

  high regard considering he's not just [TS]

  moving here they have a holder holder [TS]

  cartoon series that we're taking all of [TS]

  the continued from clone wars and using [TS]

  it and characters from it [TS]

  ongoing I mean so [TS]

  katano turns up again in and rebels and [TS]

  it's yeah it was a great cartoon from [TS]

  what I've seen of it I haven't seen the [TS]

  whole thing that is very good and ya [TS]

  know [TS]

  well done more than the the notion of [TS]

  saw Guerrera you know being a young [TS]

  fresh-faced angry young man and being [TS]

  the wizened by war now you know Haggard [TS]

  veteran at this point even for people [TS]

  who haven't seen the show i think is is [TS]

  interesting [TS]

  not just because i think it all it'll [TS]

  make people fire up their netflix [TS]

  accounts and jump over to clone wars and [TS]

  start binging through it but because it [TS]

  really does lend that sense of broader [TS]

  continuity to the overall series you [TS]

  know that they've just announced that in [TS]

  the next season of star wars rebels a [TS]

  guy named throne is going to show up and [TS]

  i know that many people not me who are [TS]

  who are gigantic Grand Admiral Thrawn [TS]

  thing i think i just recently there i [TS]

  think i think we have one of them but [TS]

  that was it we use that thing no star [TS]

  wars started I I my star wars [TS]

  constituency is the computer games [TS]

  actually start adjusting the computer [TS]

  games i would get very upset [TS]

  luckily either i can just quietly ignore [TS]

  anything contracts it and it I am NOT [TS]

  haven't read any books or I've tried to [TS]

  reach some i'm not i did not engage with [TS]

  them terribly well why do you know who [TS]

  throw it is and I i do O God help i do [TS]

  play and an imperial intelligence agent [TS]

  who's a chips and on your own computer [TS]

  on a semi-regular basis so I have [TS]

  thrilled if we get the chest turning off [TS]

  in Star Wars rebels that'd be brilliant [TS]

  yeah but no throwing himself is now is [TS]

  now canonized in actual star wars [TS]

  continuity which made a lot of people [TS]

  excited [TS]

  those are little generally are the ones [TS]

  who are saying well we're gonna get Mara [TS]

  Jade and she's gonna show up in episode [TS]

  8 and they've been they've stealth cast [TS]

  no it's not gonna happen [TS]

  they've they've officially said no we're [TS]

  just not using Marge a period [TS]

  Luke Skywalker didn't get married to a [TS]

  sixth and Bob ok i'm just angry about [TS]

  7,000 people where you know that the the [TS]

  fact that there is this sense of broader [TS]

  continuity of a of of the galaxy being a [TS]

  big wide crazy place is something that I [TS]

  feel as we continue to define the as [TS]

  they call it Calvin timeline in the new [TS]

  Star Trek films and as we grow out star [TS]

  wars is something that will continue to [TS]

  set Star Wars apart as a space thing [TS]

  where the universe does not feel as Tiny [TS]

  as it does with just the saga films [TS]

  where we're just continuously orbiting [TS]

  the Skywalker family and whatever rain [TS]

  ends up being although able to to jump [TS]

  the fringes I ate it feel it feels [TS]

  pretty nice even though we're still [TS]

  orbiting them with this movie [TS]

  yeah i think that ties into why I'm a [TS]

  part of the reason that this grabs me so [TS]

  much is because I've ever the the [TS]

  continuity that I most investment is [TS]

  from 4,000 years ago and it's a huge [TS]

  universe that you you you play in there [TS]

  and there's there's always a eight [TS]

  different main storylines to play [TS]

  through and it and and so to get [TS]

  something of that going back and not [TS]

  just about this tiny group of people and [TS]

  this one family is is marvelous [TS]

  it is and what we keep talking about the [TS]

  sort of wide universe expanding [TS]

  everything and yet they seem once again [TS]

  seems to take place on a desert planet [TS]

  now presumably it's the same different [TS]

  planet I don't know but there are an [TS]

  awful lot of desert planet in this [TS]

  nothing wrong with desert planet x as a [TS]

  big fan of june i love it whenever a [TS]

  desert plants throws up inside section [TS]

  it's great again I mean I get two weeks [TS]

  and work joke we like people as a half [TS]

  the galaxy looks like northern tunisia [TS]

  ferret out that seems pretty likely to [TS]

  be well in the same way that it seems [TS]

  all three star trek movies have to have [TS]

  a scene in a place that resembles dubai [TS]

  that's true yes i'm ok so moving on from [TS]

  there we cut back to that city on the [TS]

  plateau but now we pan up and we see an [TS]

  enormous Star Destroyer hovering [TS]

  overhead and we can see that huge tower [TS]

  in funny kind of reaches up and I was a [TS]

  refueling spotted something that really [TS]

  inches up to the light the middle of the [TS]

  Star Destroyer but that's an interesting [TS]

  one as well this this idea that I'm [TS]

  presumably this whole city for these an [TS]

  imperial city or if it's under the [TS]

  Imperial thumb don't know obviously it's [TS]

  impossible to tell but it's a beautiful [TS]

  image and subtle I like something else I [TS]

  i also did a tidy little tier every time [TS]

  you started story comes on straight game [TS]

  because they're the coolest Star Wars [TS]

  ships that was it that was the that was [TS]

  the sit up and take notice moment of the [TS]

  force awakens trailer with the crash [TS]

  started absolutely yeah yeah people who [TS]

  want an x-wing those people are fools [TS]

  I want to start destroying nothing but [TS]

  this one was oh and so they can just [TS]

  park a Star Destroyer over a planet's [TS]

  surface not in orbit just you know [TS]

  hovering right just hanging out actually [TS]

  thinking about it because you're at the [TS]

  the the crash star destroyer and the [TS]

  x-wings flying through atmosphere over [TS]

  the lake with the two things in the [TS]

  force awakens trailer that made me [TS]

  really made me go [TS]

  all ok interesting and but that was the [TS]

  first time I think we'd ever seen [TS]

  x-wings really sort of you know flying [TS]

  properly and actually entering combat [TS]

  inside a planet's atmosphere and I think [TS]

  this might be the time that we've seen a [TS]

  Star Destroyer flying in atmosphere yes [TS]

  we send them crashed on our planet but I [TS]

  don't think we've ever seen them [TS]

  actually flying in atmosphere before now [TS]

  it violates every law of physics but it [TS]

  sure looks looks imposing as hell yeah [TS]

  Star Wars it violates every law of [TS]

  physics it's pretty much the tagline [TS]

  isn't it say Imperial flags rain across [TS]

  the galaxy [TS]

  the world is coming undone according to [TS]

  forrester his character and and then [TS]

  here's our protagonist our heroine who [TS]

  is going to presumably save the day and [TS]

  you know put it all back together as [TS]

  gene into the rebellion [TS]

  now this is a repeat of a shot that we [TS]

  had in the teaser where we behind her [TS]

  entering the sort of rebel war room but [TS]

  one thing that didn't strike me as much [TS]

  I don't think watching the teaser but [TS]

  really did here [TS]

  apart from the fact that it's the only [TS]

  part of the Rebel ways that looks clean [TS]

  is how much this is riffing on the [TS]

  escape from new york idea of she's [TS]

  clearly you know about to be sent off to [TS]

  some prison planet on the outer rim for [TS]

  the rest of her life and instead they're [TS]

  saying okay but if you do this but you [TS]

  know presumably suicidal mission for us [TS]

  then we'll let you off [TS]

  yeah I like that she's she's not a [TS]

  clean-cut you know an aristocrat or so [TS]

  she's not she's not a princess leia type [TS]

  you know Princess Leia and other clothes [TS]

  there's something dangerous there's [TS]

  something uncontrollable about her i [TS]

  like that we have that sense of mystery [TS]

  about about ginger so at this point and [TS]

  presumably as we as we will in the movie [TS]

  the the the speaking lines from do Lunas [TS]

  character immediately you know bring up [TS]

  a thought that only becomes more [TS]

  pronounced as we continue through the [TS]

  trailer in that this star wars universe [TS]

  isn't afraid to have people of color who [TS]

  aren't under latex masks or whose [TS]

  accents aren't being used as the nat and [TS]

  the the native voices of alien races [TS]

  which is nice [TS]

  it's a you know it's it's nice to to see [TS]

  that non white Anglo American or English [TS]

  characters aren't the norm of humans [TS]

  right and 8 english and american english [TS]

  of the only accents that you'll hear in [TS]

  exact dollars units yeah the the planet [TS]

  itself at this point the you know the [TS]

  the name [TS]

  I don't know if mentioning the name of [TS]

  the planet is a spoiler depending on how [TS]

  sensitive people are but the the [TS]

  director has been talking about it [TS]

  they've been spreading about the planet [TS]

  the desert looking planet is apparently [TS]

  called jetta and the the thing the thing [TS]

  that I find interesting [TS]

  going into this is that it seems like [TS]

  this this is a place that was definitely [TS]

  not as it hasn't been occupied by the [TS]

  Empire for long and there's something [TS]

  very specific about having to get in [TS]

  there to either get something stop [TS]

  something whether whether the only [TS]

  MacGuffin in the movie is the Death Star [TS]

  plans or if there's something else going [TS]

  on if there is some lbma sector [TS]

  communities over here yeah I i mean i [TS]

  would love it if there were multiple [TS]

  things this team has to surmount things [TS]

  that even as well as we think we know [TS]

  the original trilogy things that this [TS]

  group was responsible for doing that [TS]

  with it were not even aware of those [TS]

  kinds of mysteries on i'm very very [TS]

  happier are locked inside this mystery [TS]

  box that that they are they are sending [TS]

  a wanted criminal after and despite [TS]

  rumors that are out there and stuff that [TS]

  I don't want to get into because it [TS]

  might be a spoiler might not [TS]

  yeah let's try and stay fairly spoiler [TS]

  less you know just stick to what [TS]

  actually in the trailers [TS]

  I love ya i like i like that the extent [TS]

  of what we know about dinner so is that [TS]

  she is she's very much this snake [TS]

  plissken type which is great for a [TS]

  female character in star wars or any [TS]

  genre media franchise that she is [TS]

  dangerous she is not necessarily to be [TS]

  trusted and nobody nobody can be one [TS]

  hundred percent sure that she is that [TS]

  she is going to you know stick to her [TS]

  word because she is known to be [TS]

  untrustworthy i like that i like a bell [TS]

  ginger she repels indeed yeah I a group [TS]

  that part of the appeal free definitely [TS]

  with what if so the first try was like [TS]

  huh [TS]

  there's a woman's story hit again great [TS]

  that's a tool star wars movies which em [TS]

  well in that mean that's that's [TS]

  tremendously exciting and I do [TS]

  appreciate that she's playing very much [TS]

  a a rogue archetype as well and i guess [TS]

  i guess the only thing I've been [TS]

  frustrating is I i love that we get we [TS]

  do get a briefing with her with mon [TS]

  mothma but everyone else he's in the top [TS]

  the cast list here is a guy here there's [TS]

  like eight guys before there's another [TS]

  woman and it's just really really Star [TS]

  Wars can't can we have a few more you [TS]

  know maybe gap two-thirds of the cast [TS]

  maybe that'd be great that'd be fine and [TS]

  then then you know you can try and [TS]

  harder next time that that depresses me [TS]

  a little bit i agree completely but I am [TS]

  get terrible looking forward to to find [TS]

  out more about her and enter car drive [TS]

  over I loved everything I've seen about [TS]

  by the action so far especially looked [TS]

  her up and this unfortunately again [TS]

  because you're in the wrong country will [TS]

  be nice [TS]

  that she was in a children's show i [TS]

  watch when I was growing up where she [TS]

  played a character called Ethel hello in [TS]

  the works which and which was sort of [TS]

  like Harry Potter for girls but not [TS]

  quite as popular and and and she was [TS]

  delightful shots she was also in the [TS]

  BBC's version a few years ago of [TS]

  Northanger Abbey and then she was [TS]

  fantastic in that because that's a [TS]

  difficult role to pull off its difficult [TS]

  story to film full stop [TS]

  but it's a difficult role to pull off [TS]

  and she did I magnificently I envy [TS]

  people who are discovering felicity [TS]

  jones through this movie because she's [TS]

  she really has quite a significant [TS]

  resume for someone you know to make it [TS]

  make age of thing but but of her [TS]

  comparatively youthful age she's really [TS]

  done some amazing work and not just [TS]

  limited to the theory of everything [TS]

  where she's fantastic and for me I I I [TS]

  almost you know Faye yes Eddie [TS]

  redmayne's great need deserved award and [TS]

  all that kind of stuff but she was [TS]

  fantastic in that film and much more [TS]

  interesting go to watch there's a whole [TS]

  lot going but going on behind the eyes [TS]

  in ways that actors of our generation [TS]

  it doesn't seem there is that kind of [TS]

  training you know there's not that level [TS]

  of chops that that so many of them have [TS]

  she is she's rarely gifted I when when [TS]

  it comes to actors of the modern age [TS]

  that there are playing the you know [TS]

  young youthful lead characters and [TS]

  things that is actually that's another [TS]

  thing i was absolutely thrilled when i [TS]

  found out about it was and yes she is [TS]

  relatively young but in Hollywood terms [TS]

  she's not she's in her early thirties [TS]

  she's in fact older than I am which is [TS]

  absolutely sterling and that's that's [TS]

  something that is not nearly enough [TS]

  movies i mean the the number of space [TS]

  movies I get to watch where I've got [TS]

  there's a female lead who wasn't younger [TS]

  than me at the time when they are [TS]

  starring in it it's good i can I don't [TS]

  know any others [TS]

  countable one home too yeah so I that's [TS]

  another thing that yes early thirties [TS]

  isn't exactly old but it's still like [TS]

  she's not some not 23 yeah he's doing it [TS]

  or she's not [TS]

  yeah she's not 72 or 17 like Kyle's look [TS]

  Skywalker supposed to be exactly [TS]

  and yes that's and she also she also has [TS]

  as this character anyway loads of [TS]

  swagger [TS]

  that's the other thing is i like she's [TS]

  got yes she may be surrounded by seven [TS]

  big burly guys but frankly she has got [TS]

  more swagger than any of them just the [TS]

  way she walks around he is just [TS]

  phenomenal like she is a female han Solo [TS]

  and i don't mean that sort of diminish [TS]

  her character but you know she's got [TS]

  that same she projects that same kind of [TS]

  outlaw devil-may-care attitude that we [TS]

  all loved in hand solo so I'm really [TS]

  looking forward to seeing her in this [TS]

  yes we do i tweeted a bit about this and [TS]

  and their those there those notable [TS]

  iconic gates in cinema history the very [TS]

  specific you know John Wayne had a [TS]

  particular walk val kilmer had a [TS]

  particular walk playing Doc Holliday in [TS]

  Tombstone and it's usually associated [TS]

  with male characters in westerns in [TS]

  particular because they have this kind [TS]

  of gunslinger devil-may-care you know [TS]

  bring it on kind of attitude and the way [TS]

  that tumblr and twitter just exploded [TS]

  after this trailer with just just gifts [TS]

  of her walking right makes me think that [TS]

  they may they just think misprinted the [TS]

  name thus far in her name is actually [TS]

  gift or so very good and one of the [TS]

  things I'm impressed with as well is how [TS]

  well they've managed to replicate the [TS]

  feel of what the rebel war rooms were [TS]

  like in the original trilogy like I [TS]

  haven't done a side-by-side comparison [TS]

  and I'm sure that they're actually [TS]

  probably quite modern in comparison but [TS]

  they feel like to my sort of nostalgic [TS]

  memories and then I'll a nostalgic you [TS]

  know i do rewatch the original trilogy [TS]

  fairly often but yeah they feel like the [TS]

  war rooms of the original trilogy like [TS]

  got absolutely right and i believe you [TS]

  correct me if I'm wrong but I believe we [TS]

  saw in the trailer there in the teaser [TS]

  that at least some of this happens on [TS]

  Yavin or at least it looks like the oven [TS]

  for actually looks like the old temple [TS]

  so there's out there is so much [TS]

  attention to detail here in recapturing [TS]

  the seventies with a month with with [TS]

  modern technology that is just adorable [TS]

  no other ya allah grats on the oven is [TS]

  that what it is [TS]

  yeah and I am absolutely certain access [TS]

  to the thing I respect most time looking [TS]

  at in the trailer is the charts that are [TS]

  almost certainly on Yavin 4 because in [TS]

  the old republic you can buy player [TS]

  housing on yeah haha oh I wanted to get [TS]

  my temple to lick on the inside as much [TS]

  like the Imperial pieces that good with [TS]

  the decorations available this was my [TS]

  second young above the prime market [TS]

  prices these days or just keeps going on [TS]

  Prairie actually it was shockingly up [TS]

  there i think everybody but it's so [TS]

  pretty [TS]

  oh do it but yeah yeah they want the III [TS]

  judge by the the brickwork and the [TS]

  values that there are seen in the [TS]

  trailer 274 haha wow alright so a major [TS]

  weapons test is imminent apparently and [TS]

  the rebellion needs to know how to [TS]

  destroy and that gives us this beautiful [TS]

  reveal of a Star Destroyer with a sort [TS]

  of stepped light reveal over the stages [TS]

  leading up to the bridge which is just [TS]

  to really emphasize its size and I think [TS]

  that looks wonderful [TS]

  my only niggle about this shot is that [TS]

  the starter story itself looks [TS]

  incredibly bright and clean like it [TS]

  looks like a model it doesn't it looks [TS]

  like a nineteen seventies model and [TS]

  that's where yeah that's where I think [TS]

  that they may have gone a little too far [TS]

  yeah I look at the I look at the I look [TS]

  at the windows the windows on the Star [TS]

  Destroyer and there and they are just [TS]

  points of light as if you know you have [TS]

  the light bulb on the inside right uh [TS]

  kind of thing going on [TS]

  I it is it is true what a Star Destroyer [TS]

  is supposed to look like but it through [TS]

  be a little bit yeah it's well in the [TS]

  bridge as well the bridge area you know [TS]

  that big sort of trapezoid shape where [TS]

  the bridges is just the whole thing is [TS]

  just every surface is white it looks [TS]

  like an fx model that hasn't been [TS]

  painted yet [TS]

  and only I think I British people get a [TS]

  reference but you know like a model you [TS]

  know playing kids and it just hasn't [TS]

  been yeah [TS]

  I don't know it's there there could very [TS]

  well be a weathering passed between that [TS]

  before right before decent they have [TS]

  they have a lot of budget shortfalls [TS]

  they're building a space station didn't [TS]

  flirt take it and then we get and then [TS]

  we get and then we get the the dish [TS]

  going in just like in the teaser and oh [TS]

  my yeah yeah I'll i love i love the [TS]

  scale of it all and this I mean it's so [TS]

  ridiculously just unrealistic it's such [TS]

  a fantasy you know there's there's no [TS]

  way to reconcile the sheer size and [TS]

  engineering effort over the death star [TS]

  with the amount of enormous vast amount [TS]

  of resources you need for something like [TS]

  it but it doesn't matter [TS]

  yeah it's it's so ridiculous and opulent [TS]

  and Eddie I just had a thought about the [TS]

  White Star Destroyer maybe maybe I don't [TS]

  know this is probably just mindless [TS]

  speculation immediately get stashed away [TS]

  but seeing Ben Mendelsohn in that all [TS]

  white Caped imperial officer uniform [TS]

  makes me think maybe this is a vanity [TS]

  thing maybe that's been Mendelssohn's [TS]

  star destroyer and he said I wanted [TS]

  white how they won't give you a super [TS]

  star destroyer but dammit i've got the [TS]

  cleanest one mine is going to be [TS]

  beautiful they should have made more [TS]

  white you could be onto something that [TS]

  you could i I would i love the notion of [TS]

  of Star Wars villain that is that vain [TS]

  because they all are so vain and so so [TS]

  self concerned that that that would be [TS]

  that would be a touch that I would [TS]

  absolutely love that of course people [TS]

  will say oh well they just have to come [TS]

  up with a reason for it because it made [TS]

  people mad right [TS]

  you know but I i would love it to be a [TS]

  character note but I I you know maybe [TS]

  mind my hopes are too high i do love the [TS]

  dish seeing the death star with a hole [TS]

  in its like we've seen an incomplete [TS]

  death star but it had a dish and seeing [TS]

  the dish going into the hole is it's [TS]

  like just another example of how they [TS]

  seem to delight in this movie especially [TS]

  from what we're seeing in the trailers [TS]

  of taking iconic vehicles people [TS]

  characters places and showing them in a [TS]

  new light and putting them into [TS]

  different situations like of course that [TS]

  you know the dishes going to go in [TS]

  somehow but you just you never thought [TS]

  about it before and here it's oh wow ok [TS]

  yeah it's a huge piece of machinery that [TS]

  needs to be slotted in the the thing [TS]

  that brought to mind was in in the [TS]

  expanding notion of Star Wars and [TS]

  everything you know we're seeing a movie [TS]

  that's literally about the team that [TS]

  stole the Death Star plans is that [TS]

  people have made jokes they made [TS]

  references in movies of their own in [TS]

  sketch comedy in web videos and that [TS]

  kind of thing to the contractors who [TS]

  built the Death Star and that right [TS]

  he expanded universe movie that i know [TS]

  and you know seeing a shot like that [TS]

  makes me kind of wish it is is we we get [TS]

  to see that the poor the poor jerks that [TS]

  are building this Death Star and died on [TS]

  board you know trying to feed their [TS]

  family [TS]

  bye-bye effectively you know being a [TS]

  builder you know all right jack [TS]

  what are you doing honor I'm gonna go [TS]

  back to tattooing I don't know you're [TS]

  only one step away from like you know [TS]

  trade disputes there they know how much [TS]

  we're talking about this letter we're [TS]

  talking about the working-class Anthony [TS]

  the working class I just think about the [TS]

  pure company that put in the their [TS]

  contracts in order to to get the right [TS]

  to build the death star being like yeah [TS]

  we've made a it's also look at this Murr [TS]

  a troll ridge and then a couple of weeks [TS]

  players Oh bollocks [TS]

  that would be a fantastic case all right [TS]

  thinking too much it again if this movie [TS]

  it to us at night I don't farhat nigel [TS]

  farage is the guy who put the deals [TS]

  together and then he'd blown up if this [TS]

  movie does it have some nameless [TS]

  bureaucrat going with the lowest bidder [TS]

  on that thermal exhaust port i'm just [TS]

  like--that's Boris that's almost [TS]

  religiously what happened at religious [TS]

  ago Zulus bit of 100 in and and and away [TS]

  goes Boris I'm in two minds about [TS]

  whether whether it would be good or bad [TS]

  to have some throwaway scene with [TS]

  somebody pointing out like you know [TS]

  something about the exhaust ports are [TS]

  not on the one hand it would be funny [TS]

  but on the other it's kind of its such [TS]

  it will be such fanservice that I just [TS]

  and so kind of I don't know kitschy that [TS]

  I'm not just saying maybe someone should [TS]

  proton torpedo are now I'm just I'm you [TS]

  know coming out of farcical and I'm just [TS]

  not sure whether it might be better to [TS]

  stay away from completely the only [TS]

  people who would notice that our people [TS]

  have watched Star Wars 2 off it you know [TS]

  mostly the average view of us there [TS]

  simon Pegg's cameo there's Simon [TS]

  thanksgiving right [TS]

  oh ok so so after that lovely shot [TS]

  estimate you see Jim and Captain Cassian [TS]

  in the rebel hangar and he says if [TS]

  you're really doing this I want to help [TS]

  and yes now I know because I do wonder [TS]

  what's with the cigarettes of course [TS]

  it's you having for ok and we see this [TS]

  ship taking off that I don't think we've [TS]

  seen this in this next week in the [TS]

  background but i don't think we've seen [TS]

  this ship type before it's got sort of [TS]

  x-wing style engines but no wings or [TS]

  nose and some weird protrusions is from [TS]

  the front side if they see you with [TS]

  other this is a you wing and it's got [TS]

  the front of a sort of prequel era [TS]

  fighter you know after right after [TS]

  Hayden Christensen became Anakin [TS]

  Skywalker and they left a little boy [TS]

  gone and they went to those fighters [TS]

  that had the little force headband [TS]

  thingy attached to them [TS]

  it's almost like the the front end of [TS]

  one of those shaved down a little bit [TS]

  and then the back end of an x-wing [TS]

  shoved into it and so I get I guess that [TS]

  is when the midsection looks like a slow [TS]

  speed up [TS]

  yeah a little bit or got kind of a [TS]

  midway between the snowspeeder and [TS]

  anyway right right yeah and this is [TS]

  apparently this is a troop transport of [TS]

  some kind because we see it again later [TS]

  with people streaming out of the belly [TS]

  so i assume that this is what they leave [TS]

  it looks a bit like a pelican the troops [TS]

  just maybe it's a should've called it [TS]

  appealing and say they take off and then [TS]

  we see them in the cockpit of this will [TS]

  presumably of this ship but I don't know [TS]

  see I think this is spliced together to [TS]

  make us think that you know it's sort of [TS]

  continuous I don't think it is I think [TS]

  this is from a different part of the [TS]

  movie and [TS]

  they've got spaceship like controls but [TS]

  they could be on the ground it's really [TS]

  hard to tell from you know what sort of [TS]

  outside the window from the scenery [TS]

  outside the window so i was wondering [TS]

  maybe this is what SUV dashboards look [TS]

  like in the star wars universe yet the [TS]

  the the beauty of it is there seems to [TS]

  be so much information that we're [TS]

  getting and then so much of it that [TS]

  could be from wildly disparate parts of [TS]

  the movie right its shots that aren't [TS]

  even in the final movie as they continue [TS]

  to hone it and get into shape [TS]

  you know something that's that has it [TS]

  doesn't spoil things and and also I [TS]

  think doesn't doesn't integrate the [TS]

  director or contrary to what some people [TS]

  would say is that they've brought in [TS]

  tony gilroy the same screen writer and [TS]

  editor to help continue shape shaping [TS]

  the movie as they get toward release and [TS]

  I think there's a certain amount of [TS]

  misinformation go here deliberate [TS]

  misinformation a so this direction i [TS]

  think what story would be a better way [TS]

  of putting it [TS]

  why I think they bring in people like [TS]

  tony gilroy on any movie of this scale [TS]

  and scope it's just you don't always get [TS]

  their name you don't always hear about [TS]

  how their workout clothes yeah don't [TS]

  hear from somebody who doesn't really [TS]

  know what they're talking about that [TS]

  this or that is in trouble I I think [TS]

  Gareth Edwards is a phenomenally [TS]

  talented director he has a great mind [TS]

  and being the first person to take on [TS]

  one of these films that takes place [TS]

  outside of the song universe that is a [TS]

  unique and it's a helluva responsibility [TS]

  amount of responsibility yeah so I you [TS]

  know if I were him as he seems to have [TS]

  you know reported by better sources he's [TS]

  been very welcoming of this of yes [TS]

  please help yeah no I'm not concerned [TS]

  about the reshoots and stuff at all i [TS]

  just think this trailer and maybe even [TS]

  the first teaser as well I think there [TS]

  is a certain amount of misdirection [TS]

  going on because there are clearly lots [TS]

  all your spliced shots taken from [TS]

  different parts of the movie some that [TS]

  may not even make it to the Final Cut [TS]

  you say with dialogue overlaid there's [TS]

  lots of lots of very clever bits where [TS]

  somebody opens their mouth and then when [TS]

  you actually hear them speak the screens [TS]

  already gone black so the line could be [TS]

  from somewhere completely different in [TS]

  the movie [TS]

  yeah I which happens with alternatives [TS]

  you know at one and and the thing about [TS]

  Gareth is his big breakout success that [TS]

  got him on the map to do Godzilla was a [TS]

  movie called monsters that was all about [TS]

  misdirection all about [TS]

  you barely see how much if any of the [TS]

  the real money shots of the movie in the [TS]

  trailers and he was very very hands-on [TS]

  with that he was very hands-on with [TS]

  Godzilla even to the extent that you can [TS]

  be a movie that throwing a huge say what [TS]

  you will about the movie itself [TS]

  he he is very very very much involved on [TS]

  the marketing side of things and that's [TS]

  why studios want him is that he's [TS]

  thinking about what's being revealed [TS]

  when how much information is getting [TS]

  parceled out and I can see his hand in [TS]

  this just as I could in the Godzilla [TS]

  marketing as I could in the marketing [TS]

  monsters in its limited release and roll [TS]

  out when it came out now with seven [TS]

  years ago Jesus I i think that they they [TS]

  definitely got the right person for this [TS]

  because i i'm i'm thrilled by what i can [TS]

  tell is either misdirection or [TS]

  intentionally just a a collage of [TS]

  imagery and sound that is meant to give [TS]

  me the field give me a taste of it but [TS]

  not just throw the whole meal in front [TS]

  of me all at once like so many movies [TS]

  market themselves these days [TS]

  my hope is that what they're what [TS]

  they're doing is selling gates as if [TS]

  it's a straightforward you know get [TS]

  recruited go somewhere steal the plans [TS]

  escaped in a TIE fighter you know that's [TS]

  pretty much the the movie they're [TS]

  presenting the shredder and I'm hoping [TS]

  that that's actually not the plot of the [TS]

  movie at all that it's much more complex [TS]

  than that but they obviously know that [TS]

  they need to they can't sell the complex [TS]

  plot because it would take too long to [TS]

  explain so instead they're hitting those [TS]

  beats and just sort of putting together [TS]

  a trailer that will convince people of [TS]

  the kind of movie it is without [TS]

  necessarily being too precise about the [TS]

  plot we're jumping ahead but i would [TS]

  even argue with you about your tie [TS]

  fighter research and I don't even know [TS]

  if I saw that necessarily but we'll get [TS]

  to that at the very end right yeah I'm [TS]

  so back to gin and now we see her in the [TS]

  market presumably of that city on the [TS]

  desert planet think that's a fairly safe [TS]

  assumption and this again is part of [TS]

  this is a clip that we saw in the teaser [TS]

  with the rebel x-wing pilots a prisoners [TS]

  being so walk through the market in [TS]

  high-tech handcuffs but we get a bit [TS]

  extra which is confirmation that she [TS]

  is there as well incognito and once [TS]

  again without makeup or you know not [TS]

  looking very glamorous but yeah it's you [TS]

  know it's it's a bizarre in Tehran but [TS]

  with Star Wars splatter all over it [TS]

  I i think it was just thinking about [TS]

  what you're saying about the UH a little [TS]

  less revealing of the plot here and [TS]

  really the entire trailer is it's more [TS]

  interested in building tone and [TS]

  atmosphere then actually saying anything [TS]

  at all regarding deployed and this is [TS]

  another shot that just reinforces that [TS]

  with our and I really lovely one as well [TS]

  I thought with it the bright orange [TS]

  suits and it's the darkness and shadows [TS]

  and grime of everything else around it [TS]

  and it's it's nice and it's it's [TS]

  enticing and and I'm just trying to [TS]

  figure out your way or therefore if it's [TS]

  where I think it's hit the movie because [TS]

  she's there she's walking around is has [TS]

  been recruited by that point or is this [TS]

  part of the thing that gets her in [TS]

  trouble in the first place because she's [TS]

  hiding i like what we've been we've [TS]

  we've heard about the Empire taking [TS]

  people prisoner and all that other stuff [TS]

  but I don't know if in the saga films [TS]

  proper we've actually seen rebel pilots [TS]

  in shackles [TS]

  I don't know mean we've seen some of the [TS]

  stuff we've heard of ever they were [TS]

  being we marched off of the blockade [TS]

  runner at the beginning of n yo but yeah [TS]

  yeah but but we we haven't we haven't [TS]

  seen the Empire in the process of [TS]

  occupying i am a place you know it's [TS]

  it's not it's not like we've seen the [TS]

  Star Wars equivalent of the Nazis are [TS]

  occupying France for example it that you [TS]

  know that the actual act of it is [TS]

  something that we we know in our [TS]

  emotional history of the saga but wewe [TS]

  haven't seen we haven't said this is not [TS]

  the same stuff that we've seen a million [TS]

  times before I mean really is quite [TS]

  reassuring because there they are there [TS]

  alive even and their hands presuming is [TS]

  there going to be handed off did in some [TS]

  form of law and order procedure that [TS]

  will happen to them rather than just [TS]

  picking a planet blowing the whole thing [TS]

  up so their internal literally killed he [TS]

  knows that they attempt to you know [TS]

  that's at least going through a process [TS]

  that someone has decided upon rather [TS]

  than [TS]

  justjust your body really is it's a nice [TS]

  high point for the Empire possibly if [TS]

  they're kinda gentler and bucket i find [TS]

  your faith disturbing [TS]

  are they diagnosed that i finded Steve [TS]

  this sort of movie is you have to make [TS]

  massive empires there in order to run [TS]

  that you're going to need a huge massive [TS]

  bureaucracy they seem to use a military [TS]

  bureaucracy and so short like that [TS]

  indicating you will do take prisoners [TS]

  you know what happens the prisoners what [TS]

  happens in dealing with the death star [TS]

  has prison cells on it so I if they were [TS]

  doing an ontology filled with the star [TS]

  wars universe that was practically cater [TS]

  to me it would be about the Lockhart [TS]

  take the logistical issues raised by the [TS]

  fire god that's terrible [TS]

  and yet tripped so this market by the [TS]

  way is the same judging by the lighting [TS]

  and one the background is the same kind [TS]

  of environment where we had been [TS]

  fighting the stormtroopers and the big [TS]

  explosion in the teaser it's all let in [TS]

  I did compare them and it's all it [TS]

  exactly the same way so i'm guessing [TS]

  that all takes place you know in this [TS]

  same place not necessarily at the same [TS]

  time [TS]

  yeah but it's a theory I and then we get [TS]

  to one of my favorite [TS]

  well actually and the mighty favorite [TS]

  shot bit is a sort of call back to this [TS]

  that comes later but a really unusual [TS]

  shot which is an x-wing flying through a [TS]

  storm through a rainstorm between these [TS]

  really big upright stone columns really [TS]

  unusual landscape this is something that [TS]

  that a few shots later I think we get I [TS]

  think we get enough information right [TS]

  that's what I'm saying yeah it's the [TS]

  same planet different areas different [TS]

  lighting different setting and it's it's [TS]

  where we get introduced to the the two [TS]

  Chinese cinema megastars that I I again [TS]

  envy people that are discovering Jung [TS]

  when and donnie yen by way of Star Wars [TS]

  movie because oh my god they have come [TS]

  from movies to watch i'm not sure if it [TS]

  is the same atmosphere [TS]

  so it cuts immediately to your base [TS]

  malbis but i don't know whether it's [TS]

  necessarily the same place and it could [TS]

  be it's raining but you know rains are [TS]

  more than one planet presumably in the [TS]

  galaxy if the lighting color is similar [TS]

  to [TS]

  to [TS]

  it is that's true that's true but yeah I [TS]

  love again it's sort of taking familiar [TS]

  things and putting them in unfamiliar [TS]

  situations i love this you know [TS]

  excellence flying at night we haven't [TS]

  really seen much of that you know with [TS]

  spotlights and stuff on them never [TS]

  really seen that in other movies i think [TS]

  the closest because pointed to start of [TS]

  the force awakens it's still obscure [TS]

  enough to the point that you know I i [TS]

  may have not watched a high enough [TS]

  resolution version of the trailer but I [TS]

  couldn't even necessarily tell it was [TS]

  definitely an x-wing I don't know I'm [TS]

  just wait could be agile yes yes it [TS]

  could get that straight yeah but I I [TS]

  like that I like that we're not being [TS]

  shown everything in the clear light of [TS]

  day just to see every single angle of of [TS]

  what ILM has his post altogether they're [TS]

  perfectly fine obscuring things and [TS]

  dirty them up and and not just selling [TS]

  the toy through a hero shot [TS]

  yeah and and this is as you said this is [TS]

  the you destroyed our home it with with [TS]

  base melvis character played by young [TS]

  when John when jungling is not only a a [TS]

  major actor in in mainland China but [TS]

  he's also a highly touted director he's [TS]

  uh he's crossed the government more than [TS]

  once and and gotten reprimanded and [TS]

  rebuked and had his career curtailed but [TS]

  you know keeps keeps coming back but in [TS]

  particular he recently directed a movie [TS]

  called let the bullets fly that co-stars [TS]

  himself showing up at various other [TS]

  people that is is is like a chinese kung [TS]

  foo live-action Looney Tunes movie it's [TS]

  ridiculous slap sticky and and full of [TS]

  energy and fun and yeah he's he is one [TS]

  of the most highly regarded directors in [TS]

  China as well as you know classically [TS]

  trained actors and and I i I'm thrilled [TS]

  that this movie is going to radically [TS]

  raise his profile the West he looks [TS]

  pretty badass it must be said yeah he's [TS]

  the guy is a beast in front of and [TS]

  behind the camera [TS]

  he he is he's kind of the you know [TS]

  grizzle guy in power armor with a big [TS]

  rifle but I i rely can't wait i i i [TS]

  really really want to see doing some [TS]

  hand-to-hand stuff because I know that [TS]

  he is he is people okay he's not done [TS]

  yet he's not gently but he is he is one [TS]

  of the best on-screen live action [TS]

  martial artists I've ever seen balancing [TS]

  that with you know the acting and [TS]

  choreography of everything we do see [TS]

  Donnie yen's character beside him [TS]

  briefly very very briefly in this thing [TS]

  before we see stormtroopers getting [TS]

  fired upon which i assume i think we're [TS]

  meant to assume is part of the same [TS]

  scene but once again it could actually [TS]

  be from somewhere completely different [TS]

  in the movie it's really hard to tell ya [TS]

  I mean though the lighting match is good [TS]

  for the close-up shot on him but again [TS]

  we don't know exactly where it's [TS]

  happening exactly when it's happening [TS]

  whether this is our introduction of [TS]

  characters and they join arrived squad [TS]

  or if it's during whatever the heist [TS]

  proper ends up actually being and there [TS]

  is uh you only say this for a few [TS]

  friends but there is also somebody in [TS]

  silhouette in the foreground of that [TS]

  scene where the stormtroopers being shot [TS]

  so I do [TS]

  there are two people are actually [TS]

  possibly 3 i'm looking at it right now [TS]

  she's a frame-by-frame so I'm wondering [TS]

  if that could be you know gene in the [TS]

  rebels sneaking in while the [TS]

  stormtroopers distracted or something [TS]

  maybe but as and these two these two [TS]

  join the team and maybe srs i'm i'm [TS]

  looking at i/o nines gift filled post [TS]

  i'm looking at every single moment of [TS]

  the trailer in gif form in sequential [TS]

  order and as I'm watching it [TS]

  repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat [TS]

  yeah I'm I I think I see a second form i [TS]

  distinctly see one but I i might see to [TS]

  write and and then that moves onto at [TS]

  once again next week flying over another [TS]

  desert but because you know likes a [TS]

  desert planet star wars but again with [TS]

  lights SI x-wing once again it could [TS]

  actually be the you the you wink [TS]

  goodnight really hard to tell because [TS]

  it's so sort of you know such a distance [TS]

  shot but that I think because the I [TS]

  think the engines are too far better [TS]

  apart on both of those shots to be an [TS]

  x-wing I think it's probably the Ewing [TS]

  how that's a good point cause the x-wing [TS]

  engines are actually really close to the [TS]

  body army so yeah yeah and this is the [TS]

  in-depth at this is the in-depth [TS]

  analysis that incomparable listeners [TS]

  come it's obvious judgy that they're [TS]

  having a you won't see you wait [TS]

  it's not popping yeah it's not even a [TS]

  wing it's the nose [TS]

  come on are you knows but then the that [TS]

  cuts to the bit that everybody's been [TS]

  talking about in this trailer first we [TS]

  get the Stormtrooper tank rolling [TS]

  through the desert city which again we [TS]

  saw this in a slippery different form in [TS]

  the teaser super-creepy blitz creek [TS]

  that's the occupation right of Europe [TS]

  and is there and a new kind of [TS]

  stormtrooper armor and helmet presumably [TS]

  for armored cavalry troops or something [TS]

  they're the people driving the tank are [TS]

  wearing yet different armor but that's [TS]

  only on screen for just half a second [TS]

  and then we get Donnie yen's character a [TS]

  blind Jedi Knight by the looks of him [TS]

  with that level on I fear nothing [TS]

  all is as the force wills it which is [TS]

  actually that's what if they were dead [TS]

  well but that's not gonna that's a bit [TS]

  of an upgrade isn't it from like the [TS]

  force flows through some binds us and [TS]

  lives in everything it's like hang on a [TS]

  second [TS]

  now we're saying that the forces fate [TS]

  and destiny [TS]

  yeah it's I mean it's almost like he's a [TS]

  force believer not a force-sensitive [TS]

  person someone who believes I force but [TS]

  isn't governed what he doesn't govern it [TS]

  himself he doesn't have the force [TS]

  sensitivity that others do but he [TS]

  believes in it you know he's very much [TS]

  the the you know the legends of the [TS]

  stories that kind of thing we're [TS]

  actually getting the you know believer [TS]

  in an ancient religion type arising I [TS]

  didn't understand he's going to turn out [TS]

  to be some kind of fan├íticos I I hey [TS]

  you know what [TS]

  fanatical force of you know combat is is [TS]

  something that I i think we should keep [TS]

  an eye on I you know many people are [TS]

  telling me that it sits next great [TS]

  danger facing us well Medical [TS]

  midi-chlorians or no he's certainly is a [TS]

  badass he I'm sorry I'd I don't know [TS]

  that word too many syllables it [TS]

  yeah he does his last Saturday each [TS]

  impression taking on the story was [TS]

  clearly just sort of even when they're [TS]

  all lying on the ground he's still [TS]

  obviously sightless yeah walking the way [TS]

  he talks too much about the forest [TS]

  anyone who lectures [TS]

  about the forced like that especially in [TS]

  the middle of the fight is one doomed to [TS]

  deserves to be doomed [TS]

  I don't think he's doing it in the [TS]

  middle of the fight to be fair but he [TS]

  does it sort of as he goes in ready to [TS]

  fight [TS]

  close enough that's not what I do like [TS]

  the idea of a blind Jedi though how many [TS]

  fears yeah we don't know [TS]

  actually there's a there's a species who [TS]

  r 0 limit well forgotten the name [TS]

  species that's terrible virus like but [TS]

  there is there to our blind who can only [TS]

  see things through the force so it's [TS]

  very much established in verse i was [TS]

  just thinking it's a nice callback to [TS]

  the the training helmets on the falken [TS]

  in episode 4 [TS]

  yeah I i like i like the disaster that [TS]

  again you know beating the diversity [TS]

  drum that we're seeing you know [TS]

  non-white people in the star wars [TS]

  universe and I'm sure that there will be [TS]

  people who say oh well they're just [TS]

  pandering they just want to do well in [TS]

  China and they'll do well in China just [TS]

  by the angel [TS]

  yeah yeah yeahs regardless I i love that [TS]

  they are they are reaching out to some [TS]

  of the some of the best cinnamon artists [TS]

  in action cinema across the globe you [TS]

  know in episode 7 we had some of the [TS]

  guys from the raid [TS]

  unfortunately they were in head-to-toe [TS]

  bodysuits and you had no idea what they [TS]

  look like and they were called kanji [TS]

  club for some bizarre reason but I you [TS]

  know I i love that I love that we're [TS]

  actually taking advantage of the fact [TS]

  that this is the biggest franchise on [TS]

  the planet and why don't we actually [TS]

  involve the rest of humanity in it [TS]

  yeah he also said that when a film is [TS]

  almost all white people in it then who [TS]

  are you pondering to accept a white [TS]

  people and frankly everyone else [TS]

  deserves their share of the pendrick [TS]

  anyway yeah it's about time and I I just [TS]

  hope you know you'll know that their [TS]

  pandering if Donny and takes his shirt [TS]

  off [TS]

  well the one thing I hope is that they [TS]

  don't get too stereotypical like I you [TS]

  know [TS]

  yes it's great having these Asian actors [TS]

  in it but you know and yes of course [TS]

  Tony when he done again is known as a [TS]

  martial arts actor [TS]

  nevertheless i really hope that he's not [TS]

  too much of a stereotypical you know why [TS]

  is asian-looking philosophical martial [TS]

  arts n dude I don't have any kind of [TS]

  comes off as a weirdo [TS]

  worthy american idol is Right I decision [TS]

  with the staff and i like that young [TS]

  when is there is kind of counterbalance [TS]

  where he is he's you know a grizzle dude [TS]

  with dreadlocks on a gun who you [TS]

  wouldn't stereotypically cast an Asian [TS]

  actor in that role [TS]

  yeah I feel I feel like I feel like that [TS]

  that's what when I heard they're putting [TS]

  Donnie and I was like okay well i hope [TS]

  Asian actors are not just karate man in [TS]

  this thing that you know that we get we [TS]

  get more representation than that and [TS]

  then we're not when they actually [TS]

  revealed what John one looks like i was [TS]

  like oh ok this this is this is [TS]

  different and I that I'm be [TS]

  uncomfortable with this fantastic run [TS]

  run wild [TS]

  I i was actually given some pause in [TS]

  episode 7 where the guys from the raid [TS]

  these massively talented indonesian [TS]

  martial artists were acting like you [TS]

  were given were given a while they were [TS]

  cannon fodder and they were given a a [TS]

  weird George Lucas e type of name that [TS]

  was incorporating asian words and [TS]

  English izing them in in a way that felt [TS]

  way too much like nute Gunray episode 1 [TS]

  around that had me worried but but I've [TS]

  had all of those concerns put to rest [TS]

  with with just what we've seen so far [TS]

  and I you know we barely seen any of [TS]

  rosamma thus far but I'm hoping that he [TS]

  has something to do more than I get you [TS]

  know connect phone calls or something [TS]

  whatever it is that he's doing if he's a [TS]

  communications officer if he's a PI hey [TS]

  you know there's nothing wrong with [TS]

  connecting room calls her connected [TS]

  phone calls and she's the best one [TS]

  well I'm just saying that the other [TS]

  accessories so why don't you think thats [TS]

  alright at next scene is another one [TS]

  that has had people in connections from [TS]

  this trailer that is Jim meets k2s Oh or [TS]

  is it k 2 so i'm not sure how people are [TS]

  saying it the droid the rather tall [TS]

  droid who says the captain says you are [TS]

  a friend I will not kill you for the [TS]

  post by r2 d cutting alan tudyk indeed [TS]

  and i I'm I'm affectionately referring [TS]

  to him as k2 right because I I assume [TS]

  that's what they're what they're going [TS]

  for ya in in the droid parlance kind of [TS]

  ig-88 looking as well yeah I i love alan [TS]

  tudyk as much as the next [TS]

  I but I i would have been perfectly fine [TS]

  if the murderer George been voiced by a [TS]

  woman but that's just me right now lays [TS]

  I I tell us who destroyed is reminds you [TS]

  of a skating party said he was the [TS]

  greatest star wars droid that there has [TS]

  ever been and who is very Sarki and [TS]

  doesn't like people and just wants to [TS]

  kill everyone and so this duty was like [TS]

  oh my god you're like a cookie you look [TS]

  completely different you have the wrong [TS]

  voice and your AC 47 he be saying that [TS]

  sarcastically and with a great deal of [TS]

  regret that he wasn't about to get to [TS]

  commit murder but there was a definite [TS]

  vibe here of what hit what is everyones [TS]

  goddammit everyone's favorite star wars [TS]

  droid if they've actually met him and [TS]

  interact with him probably there are [TS]

  some people who have done that and it's [TS]

  not their favorite droid those people [TS]

  are wrong i never even heard of it [TS]

  because i haven't played notice the old [TS]

  republic but yeah yeah yeah but you're [TS]

  not the only person to me [TS]

  ughhh yes well it is the worst just even [TS]

  looking at the clips on youtube of [TS]

  interactions with him for the walls or [TS]

  if you're like me for all the stuff you [TS]

  mix because you wanted to see all of [TS]

  these lines and he is an Imperial Droid [TS]

  by the looks of it he's got the imperial [TS]

  star emblem on his shoulder and [TS]

  presumably reprogrammed but yes that [TS]

  sounds like on the the captain that he [TS]

  refers to 1 presume if he's working for [TS]

  jeans team he's he's working for the [TS]

  actual rebel officer among them who I [TS]

  assume is diego luna it is his name is [TS]

  Captain Cassiopeia [TS]

  Oh captain Cassian captain Cassian [TS]

  and/or that's a song that's almost a a [TS]

  weird CS lewis 'i kind of thing I want [TS]

  to call in caspian sea SI SE him that he [TS]

  is the captain given that he's in the [TS]

  background of this scene between Kate [TS]

  Oso and gin so yes I think it's [TS]

  interesting that they didn't bother [TS]

  painting over the Imperial symbols on [TS]

  his shoulders again he is that seemed [TS]

  working in our guilty [TS]

  yeah right they're going to use him for [TS]

  an undercover mission or something maybe [TS]

  yeah and so if you don't like the rebel [TS]

  symbol and paint over that make it my [TS]

  way a bit you think about [TS]

  but yeah I mean that's a really good [TS]

  line and everybody in a big laugh [TS]

  everybody else that in the trailer but [TS]

  then upside-down Death Star dunno [TS]

  ok i'm looking at it now and i have to [TS]

  say i am a little bit judging anyone [TS]

  who's complaining about that one that [TS]

  looks great and two it's not really [TS]

  upset that it's just speaks you pdx [TS]

  everyone gets out in space maybe it's [TS]

  the secret maybe it's the dish at the [TS]

  lower half of the death star that we [TS]

  never saw because we're always looking [TS]

  at the front dark side of the death haha [TS]

  exactly [TS]

  or maybe it's us who are upside down on [TS]

  the Death Star [TS]

  how very philosophical fries n you [TS]

  should go and hang out with that blind [TS]

  general the camera position will is in [TS]

  space and in space there is no up there [TS]

  is some time down his way if either way [TS]

  I and a towering over a desert planet we [TS]

  assume the same desert plants and we [TS]

  immediately then see an eclipse over the [TS]

  desert planet and I didn't actually [TS]

  realize at first until i watch the [TS]

  trailer again a couple of times that [TS]

  we're looking at eclipse over that wall [TS]

  city in the distance yet with that we're [TS]

  making just our yeah yeah it did you [TS]

  think the same thing I did when you saw [TS]

  that which is why tell me why tell me [TS]

  what it what you thought and then i'll [TS]

  tell you if I'm if you're ready [TS]

  did you think once you make it out about [TS]

  all of my uh huh i thought the deck that [TS]

  from people had 5 i'm not now i do I [TS]

  didn't actually I didn't actually go [TS]

  there [TS]

  Oh what they clearly be honest you [TS]

  everything everything is ripping off [TS]

  Babylon 5 at this point no no they [TS]

  clearly nicht heroes Tim cream got a [TS]

  little taste of this [TS]

  yeah because Babylon 5 to first safe i [TS]

  think me Bob were you so like super [TS]

  scary ship crossing across the front of [TS]

  the Sun from the planet because it was [TS]

  you know that was a damn creepy and [TS]

  still at the time i I don't I don't [TS]

  think can't think of anything prior to [TS]

  that I could be wrong [TS]

  I don't know everything I don't think it [TS]

  was in anything british sci-fi anyway [TS]

  certainly hasn't done it but it's such a [TS]

  alien image the idea seemed connected is [TS]

  is although you have to wonder like the [TS]

  calculations that go into you know some [TS]

  poor navigators gonna go okay so you [TS]

  want me to put us at exactly the right [TS]

  distance from that planet so that when [TS]

  we cross in front of the Sun it will [TS]

  cause an eclipse fine [TS]

  there's a special class you'll gradually [TS]

  added right yeah that's right there's a [TS]

  special a solution Imperials chase and [TS]

  we're there [TS]

  no problem i will also accept the movie [TS]

  where we get full-ride the mathematician [TS]

  who has to be called a complicated cast [TS]

  calculations so they can make the really [TS]

  cool scary eclipse [TS]

  apparently yes there is a special class [TS]

  at the Imperial Academy on intimidating [TS]

  through navigation [TS]

  yeah I've got to be honest grandmother [TS]

  for Johnston I could do it but not gonna [TS]

  be happy about if I don't get memories [TS]

  what's the difference is that supposedly [TS]

  yorkshire thought it was that's exactly [TS]

  how people in Yorkshire some to me ro [TS]

  luxury you to hear people in Yorkshire [TS]

  talk about things must be nice [TS]

  watching miles all-star do my billy [TS]

  connolly impersonation that's why that's [TS]

  that's closed meeting you could make fun [TS]

  of them all you like mystery you're in [TS]

  edinboro one of the things that I do [TS]

  notice in this clip however is that the [TS]

  walled city is the only piece of [TS]

  civilization that you can see on the [TS]

  planet because you when the eclipse [TS]

  starts obviously it's still fairly light [TS]

  and you can see that there is it is the [TS]

  only area of you know man-made built-up [TS]

  civilization visible in the entire frame [TS]

  and this is a really wide shot that's [TS]

  quite unusual [TS]

  well I think it's perfectly normal site [TS]

  i think when we go into the Stars we're [TS]

  going to cover a whole bloody planet [TS]

  ages but it's okay for one little bit [TS]

  you don't some cool stuff there and then [TS]

  on to the next whatever happens or the [TS]

  general resources are whatever happened [TS]

  to indigenous people anyway Imperial [TS]

  dude and the siren sounds as gene says [TS]

  every day they do scary scary been [TS]

  mental [TS]

  some yeah does anybody know the name of [TS]

  his character because i haven't actually [TS]

  said director critic director Orson [TS]

  chronic rule [TS]

  yeah I'm i find myself quite torn that [TS]

  because on the one hand he looks pretty [TS]

  cool and evil and he has a swirly cloak [TS]

  which is kind of insecure [TS]

  yes on the other hand he's basically [TS]

  playing peter cushing gunman Tarkin and [TS]

  that makes me think dressed like Grand [TS]

  Admiral Thrawn I am I going to get a [TS]

  gram of Tarkin reference in this movie [TS]

  or a lovely picture of peter cushing [TS]

  maybe sitting on someone's desk attack [TS]

  tonight that's all I can for my babies [TS]

  right lovey i love the idea of this guy [TS]

  being resentful in the shadow of target [TS]

  of being the guy who got second at the [TS]

  academy next to next to target and is [TS]

  working under the boot heel of guy he [TS]

  despises I like that that's that's as it [TS]

  should be [TS]

  his a get going sort of deep down the [TS]

  wormhole of you know stars criminal on [TS]

  criminology here as he enters to tie [TS]

  pilots peel off to either side so I'm [TS]

  wondering if that's either our heroes in [TS]

  disguise or maybe they're just setting [TS]

  up the idea that lots of people [TS]

  wandering around the Death Star tintype [TS]

  I'll armor because so that it blends in [TS]

  because we didn't actually see that a [TS]

  lot in the original trilogy that wasn't [TS]

  over a lot of people in tyler on the [TS]

  death star but maybe they're trying to [TS]

  get the idea over here that actually yes [TS]

  they're all over the place and so you [TS]

  know you can blend in by wearing that [TS]

  lovely black tie fighter ama it's a [TS]

  theory again i want to know for all the [TS]

  that all buttons on that blue and red [TS]

  thing on his clock mean I like they're [TS]

  writing their insignia and sort of you [TS]

  know they're at least are criminals and [TS]

  really not as good as target is what [TS]

  they mean that's what i read what i saw [TS]

  it that you know I wouldn't want to [TS]

  cause cartoon show off like that he [TS]

  didn't have a big giant insignia or if [TS]

  you didn't historic significance in that [TS]

  big question didn't even wear shoes [TS]

  while shooting his scene was like Paris [TS]

  yeah your slippers [TS]

  yeah he wore slippers and easy route [TS]

  used he said you're going to shoot me [TS]

  full body no I'm like what shoes then I [TS]

  was something they were too small for [TS]

  him about it my temp sad and you don't [TS]

  want to meet Peter Cushing sad because [TS]

  he's the biggest most famous person in [TS]

  your movie because you want to make love [TS]

  and they include elegance and that is [TS]

  very tricky issue this December as if we [TS]

  didn't know and this is where we get the [TS]

  very nice reworking of the imperial [TS]

  march again this time with a full [TS]

  orchestra which was december we go to [TS]

  the beach right right i was just [TS]

  thinking about the music as well if you [TS]

  listen again you'll notice that the as [TS]

  they play through the clips here the [TS]

  later bars of this reworked Imperial [TS]

  March they work in some parts of the [TS]

  main star wars-themed as well which is [TS]

  really from a musical point of view i [TS]

  think is really interesting i'm really [TS]

  looking forward to the original [TS]

  soundtrack of this movie [TS]

  yes I suppose anything like it's in them [TS]

  this almost sounds like it's in a major [TS]

  key it is your right exactly yeah it's [TS]

  in a different it's a different key for [TS]

  a star but he's also gets a major [TS]

  progression [TS]

  it's a really you know sort of strange [TS]

  unusual treatment for the imperial march [TS]

  but it sounds great [TS]

  it's a new Boulder happier Empire for [TS]

  anyway and this is right we get lots of [TS]

  Clips here so we have the small rebel [TS]

  ship with people leaking out of the [TS]

  belly so you know maybe it's not that [TS]

  small after all and then running [TS]

  students sort of resembling the indoor [TS]

  uniforms but now absolutely right right [TS]

  and then they run along the beach and we [TS]

  get old palm trees are other yeah [TS]

  another incompetent regular deviantart [TS]

  who couldn't be interplanet says he now [TS]

  wants to see a star wars holiday special [TS]

  goes Hawaiian uh-oh solon oh yeah and [TS]

  there are bodies of stormtroopers in the [TS]

  water as well so this is clearly the [TS]

  scene of you know a proper battle we and [TS]

  it looks so cool with the x-wings flying [TS]

  overhead as they're running into well [TS]

  yep let this is the teaser poster that's [TS]

  in cinemas all over the US depicts this [TS]

  this beach setting and they I i'm i'm [TS]

  not a fan of the graphic design of them [TS]

  I feel like they could show off that [TS]

  setting [TS]

  more interesting way but I mean it [TS]

  really it looks pasted together in [TS]

  Photoshop in ways that don't sell how [TS]

  well it this this particular sequence [TS]

  came off to me in the trailer with this [TS]

  the one that this is the same setting in [TS]

  the teaser trailer had the a tank's and [TS]

  it [TS]

  yes and it doesn't yeah yeah alright [TS]

  okay welcome back everyone likes to [TS]

  tease hi [TS]

  alright death troopers in all black yes [TS]

  oh it's so cool though yeah out and we [TS]

  see a rebel ship on fire i think it's [TS]

  the you wink actually talking about now [TS]

  it's now that we can identify it by the [TS]

  distance from the body to the engines I [TS]

  think that's what it deserves from [TS]

  philly name yeah and it's like blowing [TS]

  up on the beach [TS]

  let me get the blind guy again the [TS]

  Imperial 20 right and then we come back [TS]

  to the the desert city and the city [TS]

  Imperial tank shooting a building and [TS]

  i'm guessing that this is the explosion [TS]

  that we saw the teaser with games like [TS]

  get a crunching away from or something [TS]

  blows up in the desert with some amazing [TS]

  stunts / cgi work for those poor [TS]

  Stormtroopers they really do get flying [TS]

  about like rag dolls tonight at the same [TS]

  time you know we can we get a [TS]

  continuation of what we saw in episode 7 [TS]

  with stormtroopers that are actually a [TS]

  lethal threat that don't seem to fire [TS]

  guns that only hit nothing right [TS]

  yeah they're more than cannon fodder oh [TS]

  yeah what's that bad haha you are a [TS]

  traditional is you saying they should be [TS]

  cannon fodder data that's what they're [TS]

  there for [TS]

  ok I'm father and licked their one of my [TS]

  favorite guilty pleasure lines in a Star [TS]

  Wars comic book was a Luke Skywalker say [TS]

  boy if they ever made smart [TS]

  stormtroopers I'd be in real trouble [TS]

  every true I and then that cuts away to [TS]

  a scene inside a dark shift maybe it's [TS]

  that rebel transport we don't know with [TS]

  k 2 s.o telling them the odds literally [TS]

  telling them the odds that there is a [TS]

  97.6 percent chance of failure HD 47 [TS]

  does that is well sometimes just saying [TS]

  although he usually wants to kill [TS]

  someone at the same time i love how do [TS]

  to the droid looks in that shot looks [TS]

  its subject [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah yeah and i did and i love [TS]

  you know you have you have a limited [TS]

  range of responses when the droid tells [TS]

  you the odds are and hot and Harrison [TS]

  Ford took the never tell me the odds [TS]

  line captain and Orson please [TS]

  shrugs and says he means well and [TS]

  glances over to another poor rebel who [TS]

  apparently just didn't like hearing how [TS]

  bad the odds were there are a tease [TS]

  I mean this is again it could be a [TS]

  splice we're not sure if he's actually [TS]

  reacting to that line but yet I had the [TS]

  same thing I was like I really was [TS]

  expecting them to do and never tell me [TS]

  the odds [TS]

  call back but yet instead just saying he [TS]

  means well that's that actually made me [TS]

  laugh that was cool very funny I thought [TS]

  yeah I am imagining some backstory for [TS]

  Hansel here for the reason he never once [TS]

  here the odds because he had to go and [TS]

  submissions with this guy like just by [TS]

  the end of that he was just so sick of [TS]

  it was like never again but not have you [TS]

  made it is this also know [TS]

  made me think about that han solo solo [TS]

  movie that they have coming after [TS]

  episode 8 where I i wonder how I ok i'll [TS]

  be with them explaining so many [TS]

  signature lines of you never tell me the [TS]

  odds right let's run you know blah blah [TS]

  blah blah like Catholic Children's all [TS]

  over again [TS]

  yes exactly oh this is why they call me [TS]

  back with where you could get quite [TS]

  tiresome couldn't i currently have [TS]

  slightly more faith in them than that [TS]

  they're not gonna do that they know [TS]

  better [TS]

  this Meatwad get moving never been the [TS]

  GAD people's never forget nowhere or [TS]

  three good movies is the fourth one you [TS]

  have to worry about [TS]

  that's the rules I'm in between those [TS]

  two lines though however we do get [TS]

  another few quick cuts of days and the [TS]

  rebels running along the beach I we [TS]

  really prominently sea basses vacuum [TS]

  cleaner backpack case happy yes we [TS]

  should i wonder if he's gonna bust some [TS]

  ghosts or just go and clean somebody's [TS]

  front room and we also see the the black [TS]

  armored stormtroopers that we against or [TS]

  in the teaser which may be things like [TS]

  black for a tropical environment really [TS]

  but you know maybe they're also trying [TS]

  to put them in a really bad mood and [TS]

  then we'll get one of these big [TS]

  four-winged Imperial shuttles blowing up [TS]

  in a very impressive explosion lots of [TS]

  things flying around lots of CGI however [TS]

  and this is the advantage of modern [TS]

  technology if you look at the beginning [TS]

  of that shot [TS]

  frame by frame and i can only assume [TS]

  that there is still some post-production [TS]

  to do because if you freeze frame it [TS]

  the stormtroopers there are three [TS]

  stormtroopers standing around the base [TS]

  of it and from the waist up they look [TS]

  great from the waist down [TS]

  they appear to be wearing kilts bare [TS]

  legs and sandals are you destroying my [TS]

  suspension of disbelief that so either [TS]

  their stuntman who haven't had their [TS]

  legs cjd yet or they r cg models which i [TS]

  think is more likely that just weren't [TS]

  completed by the time this show they are [TS]

  stormtroopers on holiday [TS]

  tiny who listen look I'm telling you man [TS]

  haha yeah i i'm i'm very upset that you [TS]

  would you denigrate the inclusion of [TS]

  Scotsmen in the store [TS]

  yes for additional name their Imperial [TS]

  sandal troopers so this asian guy or [TS]

  agent looking guy anyway with goggles [TS]

  and you know sort of what he's wearing [TS]

  an imperial patch on his shoulder which [TS]

  is one of the reasons why i wasn't sure [TS]

  if he was actually in the ship with [TS]

  cassia and the droid did you say you I [TS]

  have no idea who that is that right [TS]

  there is the uk's own reasons are mid [TS]

  okay i don't know in the he he's in he's [TS]

  in a wonderful movie called for lions [TS]

  which features imagine a very very very [TS]

  tiny roll yeah and that's most of the [TS]

  reason that non-christmas fans know that [TS]

  that before lines exists i haven't [TS]

  stopped for line since it came out I [TS]

  didn't recognize him [TS]

  ya know he's a he's a fantastic actor [TS]

  he's a great rapper he's a he's a very [TS]

  talented fellow and him him being barely [TS]

  in this says to me maybe we don't meet [TS]

  him but ways into the movie maybe you [TS]

  know they they're holding back even more [TS]

  with him than they are with others maybe [TS]

  he's maybe he's an imperial that gets [TS]

  recruited during the movie maybe he's [TS]

  wearing the Imperial patch to go [TS]

  incognito could be salvaged a right and [TS]

  it could be a saboteur you know that [TS]

  there's there's a lot of mystery to him [TS]

  that is just left completely completely [TS]

  vague my money is on incognito because [TS]

  uh we saw gin in the teaser not in this [TS]

  trailer wearing a Imperial tie pilot [TS]

  uniform and things like that strike yes [TS]

  that i really like that here there being [TS]

  more than one British person and star [TS]

  wars movie isnot villain [TS]

  yeah ya wanna come yeah and I you know I [TS]

  wonder if reassignment is is going to [TS]

  you know uses his native English accent [TS]

  or or if he's or if he's going to you [TS]

  know effective [TS]

  Pakistani accent or something but one [TS]

  way or another I i love that there's a [TS]

  there's a guy have you know Muslim [TS]

  ancestry who's in Star Wars movie right [TS]

  yes another non white guy yeah well and [TS]

  there's the shot later it's not that's [TS]

  gonna call it-- as yeah for diversity [TS]

  but before then we get more x-wings on [TS]

  the storm as it were and these are [TS]

  definitely actually flying through the [TS]

  rain at night through these stone [TS]

  columns with again spotlights who new [TS]

  x-wings had spotlights and they come out [TS]

  of the columns guns blazing firing on [TS]

  another Imperial shuttle lots of [TS]

  Imperial shuttle is gonna blow up in [TS]

  this movie and once again in this scene [TS]

  if you look there is a silhouette of a [TS]

  rebel wearing that very distinctive [TS]

  headgear in the foreground as the [TS]

  stormtroopers get blown up so once again [TS]

  makes me wonder if it's a sort of [TS]

  distracting maneuver or maybe a rescue [TS]

  but I'm just love that shot the x-wings [TS]

  flying through through the rain at night [TS]

  between those columns just against [TS]

  something we've never seen installers [TS]

  move before but for no reason it looks [TS]

  amazing [TS]

  when I we wouldn't of piloting an x-wing [TS]

  fighter and bless the force awakens in [TS]

  this movie for just taking the the [TS]

  coolness of the x-wing fighter and just [TS]

  continue looking ramping it up [TS]

  yeah i think that in a video game that [TS]

  we did desperately annoy me if I would [TS]

  have been fighting the storm because [TS]

  your vision would be impaired and [TS]

  desperately irritating ways but watching [TS]

  on the big screen on a movie entertain [TS]

  when the special effects can handle it [TS]

  looks super cool it's yeah that's very [TS]

  nice like that a lot more spaceship [TS]

  battles minutes of big storms please I [TS]

  have a feeling we're gonna get quite a [TS]

  few in this movie r1 that and then in [TS]

  the next shot we cut to something else [TS]

  that we haven't seen and that you know [TS]

  yeah you can wonder entire strikes back [TS]

  did they not have bazookas in a long [TS]

  time ago right when they have their [TS]

  laser swords and weapons of work [TS]

  yeah okay phase 4 in the rocket launcher [TS]

  at the ATA CT apart [TS]

  only these are all terrain armored cargo [TS]

  transports i'm reliably told by the [TS]

  internet and this is on the beach with [TS]

  palm trees on but yeah maybe like why [TS]

  didn't you do that on Hoth do not have [TS]

  missile maybe the ran out but maybe the [TS]

  Empire needs all the missiles during a [TS]

  big city death thing they're out of [TS]

  season they hadn't harvested them yet [TS]

  very they're expensive they're a [TS]

  rebellion they've got funding problems [TS]

  you know missile transport got hijacked [TS]

  by the Empire yeah smugglers are very [TS]

  trustworthy people they probably took [TS]

  all their money and their bazookas well [TS]

  is this baseball buses you be you think [TS]

  that's a knife this is a knife moment it [TS]

  could be yeah [TS]

  yes he's not actually a i'm just looking [TS]

  at it now on okay that separates the [TS]

  vacuum cleaner on his back [TS]

  I was just wondering thought maybe there [TS]

  might be connected and it is worth [TS]

  noting that because some people have [TS]

  been calling this outgoing like oh [TS]

  that's ridiculous it makes a mockery of [TS]

  one-half and especially given that these [TS]

  are supposed to be bigger than the way [TS]

  I'm sorry with people people speaking [TS]

  out the memory of hearts I know but he's [TS]

  making all the people who died [TS]

  I mean I've go of course i realize i say [TS]

  that on a hundred minute podcast about [TS]

  hundreds right yeah good stable but it [TS]

  is worth noting that this is he makes a [TS]

  pretty direct hit here and yet it [TS]

  doesn't look at all as if the walkers in [TS]

  any danger of actually being taken out [TS]

  or being you know immobilized by it so [TS]

  you know it's yes it's a bazooka but it [TS]

  ain't gonna have shields up by halftime [TS]

  anyway that would stop this occurs from [TS]

  working [TS]

  no we just didn't see on-screen I could [TS]

  have been lots of reasons don't matter [TS]

  at all work together so everyone should [TS]

  do don't don't expect the people who [TS]

  make the film still the story work for [TS]

  you [TS]

  yeah it was a surprise attack come on [TS]

  shish yeah they're build your own [TS]

  headcanon charge up that hill John [TS]

  headcanon listen I will treat that is [TS]

  kind of base malthus's headcanon isn't [TS]

  it haha yeah [TS]

  build it and i'll shoot it and then to [TS]

  gym again once again with forest [TS]

  whitaker's character with the this is [TS]

  our chance to make a real difference [TS]

  line you know very heroic it doesn't [TS]

  look like well it does look like it's [TS]

  the same setting as the clip from the [TS]

  very start the movie but he looks [TS]

  slightly different again so I don't know [TS]

  what's going on with these reshoots in [TS]

  the post-production I'm not really not [TS]

  sure but immediately cuts to a fantastic [TS]

  like epic visual of the rebel ship [TS]

  flying through like a storm of falling [TS]

  stone as if there's been a huge eruption [TS]

  of rocks or something I mean is it maybe [TS]

  it's the city collapsing and I know [TS]

  whoever whoever they had at ILM you know [TS]

  own this shot deserves a deserves a [TS]

  medal even more than jewbacca because [TS]

  this looks outstanding [TS]

  it really doesn't what whatever kind of [TS]

  destruction this is where maybe the [TS]

  walled city is blown up maybe the upside [TS]

  down death star decided to to fire off [TS]

  its cannons and do something to this [TS]

  planet though maybe not at full [TS]

  operational capacity didn't destroy the [TS]

  planet but maybe just made a big hole [TS]

  possible you know that the question is [TS]

  what is the Empire want out of that [TS]

  plant you know they they aren't going to [TS]

  expend resources just to capture a small [TS]

  walled city of people on a rocky you [TS]

  know monument valley looking planet [TS]

  what is it about that point that they [TS]

  want whether it's threatening something [TS]

  whether it's getting a natural resource [TS]

  where that unites it makes me makes me [TS]

  wonder what any of the 17 million things [TS]

  that could have led to that kind of a [TS]

  gorgeous beautiful devastating [TS]

  destruction show every is a lovely shot [TS]

  yeah and it goes to we you know we [TS]

  quickly get show inside the ship of gin [TS]

  Cassian is Cassian preps for Lightspeed [TS]

  5-speed that that's actually when we get [TS]

  the shot inside the ship that's my [TS]

  favorite part of it because it's when [TS]

  you see looking at jen and you can see [TS]

  out the window the stuff pushing just [TS]

  because that's something that we could [TS]

  never have done 30 or 40 years ago [TS]

  convincingly get you to know you just [TS]

  you [TS]

  have a window there but now we can have [TS]

  windows seven alright Darius the dirt it [TS]

  looks so cool [TS]

  Rep endure any more dirt Gary oh and the [TS]

  and the way her hair is flying around [TS]

  here has been there there there's been [TS]

  some stuff from the celebration of video [TS]

  showing how much that they put on this [TS]

  gimbal the set right on and and i think [TS]

  they are literally getting shaken around [TS]

  in there [TS]

  it certainly looks like it because [TS]

  you're right her hair is all over the [TS]

  place in this shot yet you do get a real [TS]

  sense of loss of movement and momentum [TS]

  and speaking of moments after the [TS]

  hyperspace jump the very next shot is an [TS]

  out-of-control TIE fighter spinning [TS]

  towards what I'm guessing is one of the [TS]

  Imperial Walker cockpits because it's [TS]

  sort of a long thin you know cockpit [TS]

  window and just smashing into the bridge [TS]

  and that's great where you going on all [TS]

  die bury all figured out [TS]

  cool i felt he only had one week left [TS]

  your retirement [TS]

  yeah arrested p scary will miss you and [TS]

  this is in because we've seen their [TS]

  walkers on the beach but this is in the [TS]

  middle of the rainstorm in the stone [TS]

  columns as well you can see that out the [TS]

  window [TS]

  yeah so we clearly get them you know you [TS]

  get plenty of a tattoo or a TA CT bang [TS]

  for your buck [TS]

  I gotta say that this trailer is is [TS]

  really great for x-wing and tie fighter [TS]

  and x-wing vs. TIE fighter nerds from [TS]

  the nineties like myself you just get so [TS]

  so much glorious ship born out of this [TS]

  including the shot that we we go into [TS]

  featuring the most iconic walk of the [TS]

  trailer right yeah exactly this is I [TS]

  mean this is the big iconic moment of [TS]

  the trailer the next shot isn't it with [TS]

  gin walking towards the camera wind [TS]

  blowing walking out on a platform above [TS]

  water in the reverse we then realize [TS]

  that it's really high above the water as [TS]

  a TIE fighter an original [TS]

  old-school-style TIE fighter rises up to [TS]

  to face her [TS]

  to meet ya shooter who knows yeah youyou [TS]

  said maybe she escapes on it i love the [TS]

  idea of her saying you know what a bum [TS]

  leg I don't care she takes a running [TS]

  leap at it jumps on its back and and [TS]

  rips a hole in it or something [TS]

  I just how's it going i want to see that [TS]

  the amount of determination on her face [TS]

  makes me the this shot by itself they [TS]

  could have just said forget the whole [TS]

  rest of the trailer to show me this and [TS]

  I would be in line right now for a movie [TS]

  that comes out three months from now [TS]

  yeah but now I've got me expecting her [TS]

  to go all slim pickins so yah yah oh wow [TS]

  it really is just it's an amazing shot [TS]

  and i think it that they really does it [TS]

  really matter such a lot that that it's [TS]

  a woman doing that because that we [TS]

  normally in ninety percent of trailers [TS]

  that would be a guy who was doing no no [TS]

  I think your mother yeah oh yeah I'm [TS]

  trying to be generous [TS]

  this is the calamity james shot this is [TS]

  this is the calamity jane finally gets [TS]

  her own movie that everybody sees lots [TS]

  of explosions [TS]

  yeah and it's it's actually got it it's [TS]

  only maybe in the past couple of years [TS]

  where I really have felt that there has [TS]

  been a decent amount of pan drag to me [TS]

  that i get i get my mind I have jessica [TS]

  jones and Supergirl and Captain Marvel's [TS]

  getting a movie and Wonder Woman's [TS]

  getting a movie and that and really I [TS]

  wasn't until I was watching a fairly [TS]

  concentrated amount of this stuff [TS]

  together that I really realized my god [TS]

  how good does it feel to be pandered to [TS]

  like that and it feels like we just add [TS]

  to simply due to some jerks on the [TS]

  Internet of course it feels pretty good [TS]

  to the rest of us yeah i mean that yeah [TS]

  that reminds me that the thrill of [TS]

  seeing the all four of the the woman who [TS]

  getting interviewed about Ghostbusters [TS]

  house like wow this is amazing what is [TS]

  it going to be like your little girl [TS]

  that and you start to see this as me and [TS]

  you have all these iconic figures that [TS]

  are yours that you get your flight you [TS]

  know that there's already Ghostbusters [TS]

  cosplay at all the in a comic on [TS]

  conventional and there since last year [TS]

  the amount of little girls i personally [TS]

  have seen in cosplay as ray is just [TS]

  incredible there are so many are testing [TS]

  the normal and women of all ages to yeah [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  I mean did it looking back in the [TS]

  nineties and I know that Gillian [TS]

  Anderson had a intimacies talked about [TS]

  interviews had a phenomenal effect on [TS]

  the number of women who were going into [TS]

  science [TS]

  I'm joining up trying to join up the FBI [TS]

  and that's one woman and one rule you [TS]

  and although one more roll one of my one [TS]

  of my favorite things that I saw crop on [TS]

  Twitter over the last couple of months [TS]

  in the lead-up to Ghostbusters release [TS]

  was a childhood teenagehood halloween [TS]

  photo of kate mckinnon dressed as Scully [TS]

  from the x-files yes all is like my [TS]

  sister yet happen maybe she's away I [TS]

  yeah that spilled it feels so good and [TS]

  the fact that its appeal that we've also [TS]

  got something like that where you have [TS]

  to the second generation was one of that [TS]

  one of the promises are you don't as [TS]

  when you have you the figures that are [TS]

  around at the moment in the present but [TS]

  the ones who are 10 20 years old 10-2 [TS]

  get forgotten or diminished and they [TS]

  have to constantly reminded they don't [TS]

  become a part of pop culture but is [TS]

  there are some of the nineties like [TS]

  Scully that have so there you've got [TS]

  that foundation there that hasn't worn [TS]

  away when it's time for the next [TS]

  generation so you're sort of your [TS]

  building on it which is really [TS]

  phenomenal and to get to have another [TS]

  star wars movie just after the last 14 [TS]

  ok and both of them there is a severe [TS]

  lack of gender parity but the lead to be [TS]

  a woman and both of them and for the [TS]

  books to feel very they didn't do you [TS]

  don't feel it you feel very non [TS]

  stereotypical the progress which is to [TS]

  say this very few way I can think of a [TS]

  better way that they're great hero [TS]

  characters based on the trailers have [TS]

  seen from this and great and it just it [TS]

  feels so good watching them it's I think [TS]

  it's wonderful that a that a woman is [TS]

  running Lucasfilm now and that star wars [TS]

  celebration in the UK few weeks ago and [TS]

  they made a point of saying yeah okay [TS]

  the Djinn toy is in the first wave not [TS]

  as not immediately acknowledging the [TS]

  where's ray thing of a week to be honest [TS]

  alright we screwed that one up [TS]

  you could have made all gigantic amount [TS]

  of money if we had spun up the toy [TS]

  factories we shouldn't have a we [TS]

  shouldn't have been as hesitant [TS]

  um I is that they very very force [TS]

  forcefully said no yeah we're good here [TS]

  we go here's the toy it's going to be [TS]

  all over store shelves weeks before the [TS]

  movies out you know I i hope that they [TS]

  have the problem of of having to [TS]

  overproduce to counteract scalpers [TS]

  because one of the things that the DC [TS]

  superhero girls line is seen is the [TS]

  harley quinn toy is exclusive to target [TS]

  in the US and so if you go into a target [TS]

  good luck finding one because there are [TS]

  you know 55 year old men running stalls [TS]

  comic conventions that are buying them [TS]

  up and scalping them for three times the [TS]

  price of comic cons because there's such [TS]

  demand for them and they're just not [TS]

  being produced enough enough quantities [TS]

  that's something that I don't see there [TS]

  being as big of a problem with when it [TS]

  comes to star wars because kathleen [TS]

  kennedy and has Barone star wars have [TS]

  and disney have have the resources to [TS]

  the resources and the foresight to make [TS]

  sure that that isn't going to be a [TS]

  problem [TS]

  I said yeah yeah iidon't inside to sit [TS]

  next to a little ray my little bastard [TS]

  had well and speaking of diversity the [TS]

  next shot is you know Jen you get the [TS]

  voice-over ginseng are you with me as [TS]

  she approaches the TIE fighter and then [TS]

  you cut to catch and saying all the way [TS]

  and the group shot of the rebels on the [TS]

  transport and this shot like merely by [TS]

  having two asians one African and one [TS]

  south asian it is already possibly the [TS]

  most ethnically diverse single shot in [TS]

  star wars history by a long shot [TS]

  it's probably you've you've actually got [TS]

  a Hispanic person in the movie at all [TS]

  and and i think i think that there have [TS]

  been south asians there have been Asians [TS]

  but I really AM am very strained to [TS]

  think of a single person of hispanic [TS]

  heritage in the entire star wars [TS]

  live-action can't up until diego luna [TS]

  right [TS]

  apart from this guy yeah yeah perfect [TS]

  apart from this guy up and at this point [TS]

  it's just it's it's staggering to me [TS]

  that throughout wow ok Jimmy Smith's [TS]

  Jimmy Smith so we actually saw its yeah [TS]

  because i keep forgetting the prequels [TS]

  exist [TS]

  i would i would be shot was originally [TS]

  on twitter if I didn't mention jimmy [TS]

  smits who is and we may need to take [TS]

  this out but according to wikipedia [TS]

  jimmy smits is actually in this movie as [TS]

  well I don't know you're talking who [TS]

  little organic I would bail organa be in [TS]

  this movie [TS]

  well I didn't know that probably he's [TS]

  like a cult months of my god has going [TS]

  no go out Bail Organa darth vader i mean [TS]

  i wouldn't use those boiling in this [TS]

  movie we're just getting there you have [TS]

  to spoil things [TS]

  who's gonna save Robbie I was just [TS]

  asking why would somebody like that me [TS]

  know you don't hear me know haha alright [TS]

  so the rebel the rebel ship the ramp [TS]

  closes and we had a little half-smile [TS]

  from gym just to you know and then fade [TS]

  to black [TS]

  the end but it's not oh no it's not the [TS]

  end because we get the rear shot of [TS]

  Darth Vader's helmet in front of the [TS]

  Death Star targeting screen looks like [TS]

  that's not the death star targeting [TS]

  screen he's reading the Gallifrey and [TS]

  language haha very good very good at [TS]

  their girlfriend I barely know and the [TS]

  breath you know the sound I guess that's [TS]

  all you need really isn't it that's all [TS]

  I need [TS]

  they were to go to ensure that their [TS]

  armor is shined well it was very shining [TS]

  they were very lucky with their whole [TS]

  design of Darth Vader that it just so [TS]

  happens that over a quarter century [TS]

  later they can relate the actual proper [TS]

  person to do the actual proper voice and [TS]

  make it sound and Luke exactly as it [TS]

  should be right although I must admit I [TS]

  am a little surprised because apparently [TS]

  james earl jones is returning for this [TS]

  and i'm told the or you know by the [TS]

  internet anyway that it's a very small [TS]

  is very much a cameo yeah it does feel [TS]

  like it should be right i don't i agree [TS]

  but I think it's a bit of a mistake to [TS]

  will James Earl Jones again because this [TS]

  is not the last movie that we're going [TS]

  to see vedran I mean let's let's face it [TS]

  you know he's gonna pop up again in a [TS]

  number of days unhappy movies so he's [TS]

  dead now [TS]

  he's known in the and I'm ecology movies [TS]

  i'm talking about yes I'll never scenic [TS]

  but there they are now and there's [TS]

  there's a there's a there's a big span [TS]

  of time between the Empire Strikes Back [TS]

  and Return of the Jedi during which [TS]

  countless adventures like that of dash [TS]

  Rendar couldn't write and the extended [TS]

  universe is already you know already [TS]

  spent the last 25 years filling in every [TS]

  micro second of that gap and now they're [TS]

  free to do it all over again they are [TS]

  gonna need even so being an impression [TS]

  is eventually sooner or later they are [TS]

  going to have to get a voice impressions [TS]

  are you saying rather guesses they'll [TS]

  get tay zonday the the Chocolate Rain go [TS]

  he does a great James Earl but that's my [TS]

  point was like why nice start [TS]

  why not do that now why not start with [TS]

  this new movie the new style of movies [TS]

  just smoking jordans would be [TS]

  horrendously upset I why would you upset [TS]

  you know you like saying and Anthony [TS]

  Daniels once you know once once his [TS]

  quote let's pay somebody half as much [TS]

  and not get any Daniels yeah that's so [TS]

  rude in Anthony's Defense yeah james [TS]

  earl jones is providing the voice of [TS]

  darth vader in the Star Wars rebels [TS]

  animated series now you through not the [TS]

  andrew sigh and he doesn't quite right [TS]

  he sound anger I owe you you ages you [TS]

  person you you can i how do you say yes [TS]

  the James only is affected by the [TS]

  passage of time how day is that display [TS]

  that shocking i think he was absolutely [TS]

  wonderful i just when you call star was [TS]

  thinking just feel like especially [TS]

  something like this when you're so close [TS]

  to that thing not to have a little sort [TS]

  of glimpse of a dar just feel like [TS]

  you've been maybe a little bit cheated [TS]

  somehow but you just give them that [TS]

  little taste and then people generally [TS]

  happy that people think it's a bad idea [TS]

  they're not too pissed off because it [TS]

  was only a little bit and it felt like [TS]

  bit like that in Star Wars rebels which [TS]

  is taking place even just a little bit [TS]

  earlier than this where but Darth [TS]

  Vader's gonna be this absolutely [TS]

  terrifying figure because Darth Vader [TS]

  ever went to school with our little [TS]

  group of rebels there then surely they [TS]

  would all be white tied at which is [TS]

  exactly what happens they are just [TS]

  useless when Darth Vader turns up clears [TS]

  them up and basically all we can do is [TS]

  wrong [TS]

  very very fast and it just it just [TS]

  oh I don't know it just feels like he [TS]

  should be there just for a moment or two [TS]

  yeah absolutely dishes you also do ms [TS]

  immortal he must he must be caught part [TS]

  of the fabric can maybe maybe you can [TS]

  get him to record quite law of Darth [TS]

  Vader ish lines not and then just be [TS]

  easier and lights [TS]

  I'm sorry that's even more rebels will [TS]

  not defeat that's even more than just [TS]

  finding a voice impressions that I die [TS]

  so now let's let's speculate for a [TS]

  moment on just what Vader might be doing [TS]

  in this movie the marvel comics that are [TS]

  currently being produced our cannon and [TS]

  more so you'd have so voices and I have [TS]

  geeked out a little bit offline about if [TS]

  you if you like murder droids in this [TS]

  movie [TS]

  you've got to get the darth vader comic [TS]

  ok who's writing it [TS]

  karen gillan karen gillan alright just [TS]

  writing tamaki area please tell ya but [TS]

  the setup in the early going of that [TS]

  comic is a poor Darth Vader is on the [TS]

  outs because the Death Star got blown up [TS]

  and the Emperor is blaming him for it [TS]

  and part of the blame is that Vader let [TS]

  the plans escape so that Vader could [TS]

  track the rebellion to their secret base [TS]

  i think we might see a little bit of [TS]

  that happen in this movie not only of [TS]

  course because that because that makes [TS]

  sense [TS]

  Vader laying his plans the the darth [TS]

  vader series does such a magnificent job [TS]

  of marrying what many people find [TS]

  problematic in the you know but golly [TS]

  I'm Anakin Skywalker and nothing goes [TS]

  right for me kind of whiny teenage brat [TS]

  from the prequels with the darth vader [TS]

  that is dark and imposing and powerful [TS]

  and you know bounces back from from each [TS]

  each setback but I i like that we get [TS]

  we're getting that additional texture to [TS]

  the character you know i went back and i [TS]

  watched the original Star Wars number [TS]

  weeks back and in light of rogue one as [TS]

  they as they board the rebel uh [TS]

  ship when he says there won't be anyone [TS]

  to stop us this time I'm paraphrasing [TS]

  probably I i like that that were [TS]

  effectively getting a movie adaptation [TS]

  of one line of Darth Vader's from New [TS]

  Hope certain way how what could be more [TS]

  fitting for a bunch of nerds who have [TS]

  just spent almost two hours talking [TS]

  about a 90 second try to be fair to be [TS]

  fair we are following in the footsteps [TS]

  of greatness we are all hail the mighty [TS]

  Syracuse's I think we have extracted [TS]

  just about every last and so fun that we [TS]

  can from the trailer though so let's [TS]

  well it's time for us to make a daring [TS]

  escape while the network collapses [TS]

  around us make the jump into hyperspace [TS]

  before Jason can reactivate the tractor [TS]

  beam [TS]

  so thank you everyone and [TS]

  congratulations on making it through [TS]

  alive unlike I suspect many of the [TS]

  people that we have just been discussing [TS]

  in this trailer [TS]

  Thank You chip Sabbath you're welcome [TS]

  we all owe you a debt is miles I'm sorry [TS]

  and good shooting noise st on i hope we [TS]

  didn't let anyone down who is expecting [TS]

  John siracusa but there is a 97.6 [TS]

  percent chance of failure i have been [TS]

  your rebel leader and johnston and [TS]

  thanks to everyone out there in the core [TS]

  systems for listening [TS]

  goodnight and may the force be with you [TS]

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