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Top Four 26: Holidays 🐰🎄🌭🏈🎉🎃🍺

 

  welcome back to top for everyone I don't

  know where that came from

  loud yeah that was pretty loud well

  anyway welcome back to top for everybody

  this time we're gonna talk about our top

  four favorite holidays is somebody

  didn't like the topics I chose well they

  know they were good no they were great

  that was the kind of asterisk voice no

  they were great you just didn't have any

  content for them well cuz they're you

  know it's things like you know like top

  like books like I don't read any books

  so I don't know like it's hard for me to

  know that so it's stuff like that where

  like it would require a large investment

  of time on my part over weeks or months

  in order to even form a valid opinion of

  four things see but it's not-it's not

  what your top books might be if you read

  all the books in the world it's what

  your top books are right now that you

  have read that are in your personal

  lexicon I have read very few books total

  okay move on from the book and even

  fewer in like the last ten years

  fine fine anyway so we're doing top four

  holidays and we kind of define this so

  we didn't really when when we both set

  out to research this independently and

  we don't talk about our picks before we

  record the show and so I decided to

  define this as basically anything that

  Wikipedia listed as like something that

  is celebrated in the US and it's whether

  it's an official federal holiday or

  religious holiday or just a common

  celebration basically I started the

  Wikipedia page for US holiday isn't

  coming from there we both ended up doing

  the same search we realized yeah

  American holidays exactly because I want

  to be comprehensive like you know if you

  think off the top of your head you might

  be forgetting about something and then

  you might think oh wait I do like that

  better so I wanted to just go and see

  like a list of what kind of the most

  popular u.s. holidays are and it's

  actually varies by state I learned all

  this like there's a lot of holidays that

  only a handful of states celebrate well

  not obviously they're not that important

  yeah but anyway why would they make a

  list of holidays if it's like a Rando

  state holiday who's favorite holiday is

  a Rando state holiday well some like

  some of them on the on the only some

  states list are things that

  you might have heard of like Columbus

  Day Columbus Day is very controversial

  because Christopher Columbus was kind of

  a horrible person why would your

  favorite holiday

  be Columbus Day that's a good question I

  don't know it's not one of mine but I

  just I thought it was interesting that

  only only like 15 states let me actually

  recognize it as a holiday for good

  reason anyway so let's get going you

  want to do you want to talk you have any

  preambles or runners-up that you want to

  talk about before we get into our core

  four picks not really I mean there are

  like a handful of holidays that everyone

  would put on their short list because

  there's only really a short list of

  holidays that actually do or mean

  anything I mean the ones that didn't

  make my list I'm not gonna say cuz it's

  gonna ruin my list cuz it's like five

  holidays total and everything wait are

  you saying you picked Flag Day no I did

  not pick Flag Day oh how about Arbor Day

  I like trees mmm nope didn't pick it not

  a favorite sorry all right

  let's go right into our numbers are

  ranks then so do you want to go first or

  do you if do me go first so you finish

  last

  um-hmm I want you to finish last cuz

  you're the wild card here I don't know

  what the heck you're gonna pick I bet

  you're gonna be surprised by all four of

  mine really and I'm going to go out on a

  limb and say that we probably have zero

  overlap in our list I bet there is

  nothing that is on my list that is on

  yours or vice versa are you kidding me

  there's only like five good holidays

  anyway oh you'd be surprised this is

  gonna be one one that people don't worry

  guys about so oh I don't know who you

  are by the end of this baby okay you're

  gonna be you're gonna be sighing a lot

  like that because every time I say

  something you're gonna be like of course

  he said that like that's like it's not

  gonna actually be shocking you're gonna

  be frustrated that I picked something so

  stupid oh here we go okay okay so you're

  number four pick my number four pick is

  Easter which is coming up okay super

  excited I love Easter because it is

  springtime so it's all of my favorite

  colors like teals and dusty pink which

  I'm just

  we became a favorite color so hey don't

  see pink dusty dusty I never heard you

  mention any shade of pink ever I know

  I'm all of a sudden becoming a pink

  person but I like teal and all that kind

  of stuff likes spring and bunnies and

  flowers I love all that stuff I can't

  not buy all the spring decorations at

  jo-ann fabrics because I'm a hoarder and

  it's trust me it gets much worse okay

  I could be worse but I'm not so anyways

  springtime color I love coloring eggs

  there's a craft component to this

  holiday which I really enjoy I love

  making any kind of crazy kind of egg

  they have lots of different kits now

  it's not just a matter of like dipping

  your egg in some tablet water of it like

  those reading plastic garbage those

  things are always so disappointing like

  all the paths you know color tablet kits

  sighs yeah it's just you you you have to

  soak the egg in there for like an hour

  to get any kind of bold Eller there's so

  much to do now like there's so many

  things Sparkle eggs and you're going on

  them and this kind of egg and there's

  just tie-dye I don't know I can't even

  goldleaf it's just craft so the craft

  ization like certain holidays I feel

  like when we were kids were a lot

  simpler and kind of lower key I would

  put Halloween is probably the biggest

  one of those where it like the

  difference between when we were kids and

  now like it has gotten so much more

  commercialized and and bigger and more

  elaborate in recent years and I'd say

  Easter is one of those too it not quite

  the level of Halloween but but in the

  same category of like now you can do so

  much more the things that are out there

  to do things like with crafts like with

  eggs and stuff are so much more advanced

  and elaborate and and there's so much

  more stuff you can buy and inflatable

  things you can put in your lawn not the

  inflatable things the inflatable things

  when they are deflated it looks like

  there's a pile of garbage on your lawn

  and so don't get them they're terrible

  and trashy so but yes love Easter we are

  not religious at all so I do not like

  this holiday for any religious element I

  like egg hunt and I like coloring eggs

  and I like baking specific things like

  breads with eggs in them

  I like the chocolates that come out this

  time of year oh here comes the Cadbury

  eggs oh I can't wait it's gonna be the

  cream eggs and the mini eggs oh gosh

  there's just so good

  feelings are the ones that like are with

  the candy outside yeah yeah those the

  best mini eggs rock they are better from

  the UK but here when they come out in

  the springtime at least we get some

  variant of them and they are so great so

  yeah and it's really fun with having a

  kid Easter is fun like with the Easter

  baskets in the morning and the hiding

  the eggs and he gets all excited about

  finding them that the Easter Bunny came

  and by the way I think it's an actual

  bunny not a person standing up related

  to the recent hello internet discussion

  I always pictured the Easter Bunny as

  like you know a a person sized rabbit

  that's standing up as it no it was like

  a human and a rabbit no no I hate those

  like pictures with the Easter Bunny they

  always look horribly terrifying big no

  bigs you know I always always kind of

  like when I was a kid I didn't give a

  lot of thought to the Easter Bunny or

  the tooth fairy

  it looks evil they just I never I don't

  think I ever even pictured really in my

  mind when I was a kid like if you ask me

  now I would picture it I was like you

  know a human sized rabbit and you know

  human in a rabbit suit but as a kid I am

  not sure I ever even believed in it

  really and if I did I don't remember

  ever really picturing it as anything

  well there was a lot of like more like a

  cartoon bunny but your bunny sized well

  bunnies are pretty small like maybe a

  hop sized bunny like a very like a big

  like Hasenpfeffer like big bunny it's

  like hot you know like big enough to

  carry a basket full of eggs basically

  yeah but like a cartoon bunny did did

  the did our culture as children ever

  resolve the question of why a bunny has

  eggs like why a bunny has effectively

  chicken eggs you know all I know is from

  the Cadbury commercials where it's like

  a bunny and it's clucking and somehow I

  think eggs come out I don't have

  something a bunny I don't know I don't

  know how it happens they're just

  delicious rabbits aren't even egg-laying

  are they mammals they're not even egg

  laying here asking me if a bunny is a

  mammal it's not even like we're talking

  about like like a difference in egg size

  classes here we're actually talking

  about like an animal that does not even

  involve

  that's funny don't lay eggs right but I

  thought that's why I'm asking like like

  why did the bunny get associated with

  eggs

  since bunnies normally have nothing to

  do with eggs I'm pretty sure it has to

  do with like spring and procreation and

  bunnies have lots of do lots of banging

  and make lots of babies and chickens are

  like newborn chicks in the springtime so

  like the whole like chicken bunny

  springtime flowers was all just kind of

  rolled into one big holiday burrito I

  don't know okay alright any other for

  any further comments on Easter I just

  really like Easter that's good alright

  my number4 going in a different

  direction is the Super Bowl I needed to

  take a drink yes you do like the Super

  Bowl captain I don't even know what

  sport the Super Bowl is for football I

  can't tell you what teams are in it most

  time but okay so here's why I care about

  this so you know our usual thing but the

  Super Bowl is we go to somebody's house

  usually a good friend of ours we eat you

  know delicious junk food basically like

  snow fried things knock shows things

  like that and we drink beer and we have

  a good time with our friends I like any

  holiday that involves drinking beer

  eating junk food and having a good time

  with our friends like that sounds

  awesome to me

  and I get to enjoy a sport for a few

  hours and then that's it which is kind

  of the best way to enjoy a sport to me

  he's like my main problem with sports I

  know like the basic rules of most of the

  core American sports enough that I can

  watch a game and enjoy it and know

  what's going on but I don't care about

  any particular teams so I don't get

  involved in sports the rest of the year

  because I just don't care but if I get

  to a party and I'm gonna have a good

  time with my friends anyway because it's

  a it's a party with friends and good

  food and beer and there's a game on I

  can just root for whoever they're

  rooting for and it's usually a pretty

  good time and then the whole next week

  because I saw that game I can actually

  participate in society I can actually

  when people at the deli make small talk

  I actually know what they're talking

  about they oh did you see the game yeah

  you do how about that

  touchdown whatever ya like I can

  actually participate in society in a way

  that the entire rest of my life I can't

  so I feel like I'm like a real human

  being but I have no like team

  affiliation going in or out of it so I'm

  not so nervous like first of all like

  you know quote my team is in the Super

  Bowl every year be like just pick one of

  the teams if that's in it like my team's

  always in it and if quote my team loses

  I just go home and I immediately stop

  caring

  and by the way Super Bowl Sunday is

  listed on the Wikipedia page for US

  holidays okay the only downside to Super

  Bowl Sunday

  is that it happens in the middle of

  winter which normally sucks

  I prefer holidays that are in warmer

  weather I really am NOT absolutely not a

  fan of winter but other than that you

  know pretty solid that's my number four

  all right I have nothing to say about

  that

  my number three holiday is a superior

  holiday to that weird holiday Cape you

  that heart of me which includes a lot of

  the elements that you're talking about

  but also how instead of a sports game

  there are fireworks so way better and

  I'm talking about the fourth of July

  okay

  I really like the fourth of July for the

  reasons you have just discussed liking

  the footballs so it's like a barbecue

  holiday which is super fun you're on

  outside it's beautiful weather it's

  summertime it's warm you're talking

  about sprinklers and you're talking

  about kids outside and riding bikes in

  the street if you happen to have like a

  big block party or something which we

  often do kind of around that time so he

  just and then and then it's like the

  start of the summer which is super great

  and then fireworks

  who doesn't like fireworks and we happen

  to have an amazing firework show that we

  go to it is probably the biggest

  firework display that I've ever seen

  besides like trekking it into the city

  or something like that yeah where it's

  just in a big huge field you don't have

  to sit next to a ton of people even

  though there are

  you know hundreds of people there at the

  place we go and it's just a big

  orchestras playing and fireworks and

  you're sitting outside and the weather's

  warm and everyone's happy and again I'm

  not particularly patriotic but I really

  like this holiday just for the hanging

  out with friends barbecued meats

  fireworks warm weather yeah I respect

  that the only thing with fourth of July

  is that it's a little bit of a bummer

  during years in which it's hard to be

  proud of the US and I think we're in for

  a couple of those years yeah I feel that

  but I also like fireworks so just like

  the religious holidays where I don't

  celebrate them for any kind of religious

  affiliation but yet I look forward to

  them and I happily do all the other

  things this could just be the firework

  holiday for me yeah that's so I'm super

  excited about the barbecue fireworks

  holiday that just happens to take place

  on the 4th of July which may or may not

  mean something there we go okay I

  respect that decision thank you all

  right my number three is you're gonna

  hate this one too but let me explain it

  isn't that different honestly my number

  three is Oktoberfest blank stare okay so

  Oktoberfest is what I like I like that

  this kind of this is another one of

  those things like I think became more

  common in the US as the craft beer phase

  has kind of swept the nation wait wait

  wait

  Oktoberfest is at a particular day it's

  it's more of like a fest in October it

  has a more specific meaning in Germany

  in the US it's basically any kind of

  fall you know beer and sausage festival

  that's usually held in the first week of

  October in reality like in you know

  there's often fall festivals around

  around here all over the US probably so

  that kind of span the whole month so

  it's it's lit it's more loosely defined

  wait before you start talking about

  getting all excited about this holiday

  yeah you have never been like let's go

  to Oktoberfest because we always just go

  anyway we always go to something around

  then that ends up being basically

  Oktoberfest thing

  and it's great because similar to what

  you're just saying you know you're a

  it's a little too cold to barbecue

  usually but you're outside with a jacket

  at least you have beer friends meet and

  a good time dump in a hammer maybe or

  people nearby are coming cakes and and I

  love like kitschy fake German culture so

  that's that also helps a lot

  no offense to Germany I love you too but

  you're the the American version of your

  culture is also very enjoyable and yeah

  I and what's also nice about Oktoberfest

  is that because the US hasn't quite

  nailed down like a firm timeline of what

  it's supposed to be

  you can usually go to like multiple

  events like you can go to like two

  consecutive weekends where you go to

  like three different places total and

  you can actually celebrate this on

  multiple occasions you know it's fall

  fall festivals kind of harvest festivals

  are always really fun to go to and this

  is just kind of one quote holiday that

  kind of shoves it all together and gives

  it a theme so I consider that a win also

  Wikipedia does too so I considered a

  valid choice oh I'm really nervous for

  your next two honestly all right are you

  just trying to be like that cool hipster

  were like I'm just gonna pick some stuff

  or that's like super obscure like oh I

  don't even have a TV yeah the guys in

  the record store that's like oh yeah my

  totally my favorite album is you know

  blah blah blah blah blah blah because no

  one's ever heard of them they're like

  super deep cuts anyway I believe it's

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  and all of really of em so number two

  pics okay what is your number two number

  two top holiday I kind of got in like a

  top books there right there yeah that's

  pretty good a little bit a little bit

  because we're never gonna do one unless

  we have again no we're never gonna do

  I'm so sorry people although if I were

  to ever read a book it would probably be

  an audiobook from audible.com it would

  count you don't have to tell me how you

  read the book it was a book that you

  consumed yeah so we were talking and it

  doesn't matter if you read them or not

  sure maybe you could just like the cover

  and put it on your list you know I'm not

  really a book cover kind of person most

  book covers look really weird to me like

  they chef so much you are weird to me

  okay yeah that's true my number three

  number two yeah my number two holiday is

  Halloween all right I'm not surprised to

  hear that at all I really like it

  because it's a little bit spooky I don't

  like to dress up in costume but I love

  to make costumes so I'm super happy to

  have a child that I can make costumes

  for especially little tiny ones and

  that's super cute and your costumes are

  super cute he was a fox he was a

  beekeeper he was a butterfly and he was

  linked and I loved making his cute

  costume and that's just it's a skill

  that I've had for a long time and

  Halloween's kind of the time I get to

  like stretch those muscles in making his

  costumes and I make them as much from

  scratch as I possibly can I usually take

  patterns even from his clothes that he's

  currently wearing so it all fits

  perfectly and so that's why I really get

  into it I have lots of fun giving out

  candy to the kids that show up when they

  do show up which hardly any of them view

  in our neighborhood but I do really like

  Halloween for all that stuff

  and again it's weird because I don't

  wear costumes myself or make myself

  costumes so I don't get into it that way

  and I feel like once Adam grows out of

  costumes my favorite nosov this holiday

  will diminish a little bit and that's

  the reason why it didn't become my

  number one but I I really enjoy it and

  if I were forced to go to a costume

  party I would wear a sheet like a ghost

  I love the sheet ghost costume it's

  it's the most basic amazing thing I

  don't well we war she coasts we were she

  goes to her friends party and everyone

  thought it was the most amazing costume

  we put zero effort in by just cutting

  some holes in his sheet but people are

  like whoa old school and so it became

  like a total thing and we were super

  cool for it yeah I think I feel it's

  kind of move you can only pull off once

  though yeah the least effort costume got

  kind of like the most attention at that

  party exactly wait yeah I don't I'm not

  crazy about Halloween myself like I

  don't like dressing up I always feel

  weird about that as an adult I enjoy how

  much fun you and Adam have and so I

  really enjoy like you know watching you

  guys well you know watching the amazing

  costume you make seeing how much he

  loves it and being there to like take

  pictures with you guys and and and take

  pictures of you guys and and really

  enjoy the moment as a spectator but

  that's how that is how I feel

  comfortable is as a spectator I really

  don't like being a participant in the in

  the costume environment but it is

  enjoyable as a spectator so I will grant

  you that the funny thing is I don't even

  care for much of the candy that is out

  on Halloween garbage it turns out yeah

  it's fine but I'm not such like a candy

  freak that I like go nuts over the candy

  it's more of a get this out of my house

  so I just stop eating it situation but I

  mean the candy is really for the kids

  it's really not for us yeah we'll take

  the leftovers quote anyway and I also

  don't really like the way our kid acts

  when he has tons of candy so that is

  also a negative about the holiday but

  something every kid it is all about the

  costumes so super excited to make

  costumes again I say that because it

  used to be my job yeah so now I holla

  wien costumes

  sweet sweet just say yours alright my

  number two I was wrong we have one

  overlapping holiday my number two is the

  fourth of July oh there it is there it

  is because like you said it's summertime

  there's barbecues there's fireworks I

  love barbecues and you think it involves

  a barbecue I'm a big fan of because the

  barbecue as like as a

  our former as a cultural event okay this

  is just awesome

  we're northerners so barbecue means

  cooking meat outside on a barbecue yeah

  on a grill we are not talking about

  Barbra that's right yeah we're not

  talking about like you know slow smoked

  meat Oh in a smoker or anything we're

  just talking about like hamburgers and

  hot dogs yeah hamburger cookout yeah

  yeah so anyway just want to make that

  clear not that I'm arguing about the

  terms I don't care how everyone calls it

  culturally in your different parts of

  the United States but and all over the

  world really but I just want to be clear

  what we're talking about when we're

  talking about enjoying a barbecue is

  we're enjoying putting various meats

  onto a grill and cooking it and then

  serving it on big platters to your

  friends yeah exactly so I just I love

  barbecue slash cookouts whatever these

  are called I love those so much because

  it barely really matters what you're

  cooking

  yeah the old vegetables are super good

  too yeah you can put pretty much

  anything on the grill and it's fine and

  it sits between fine and awesome and

  again your outside it's nice outside

  during the seasons in which you're doing

  this you're usually hanging out with

  friends and/or family there's pie

  there's oh yeah there's usually great

  desserts great side dishes and usually

  outside drinking a beer or something and

  just having a nice time and kids can be

  there and it's no big deal the kids

  aren't miserable there's actually one

  thing that I think is a downside to

  Oktoberfest that the kids usually don't

  enjoy that kind of thing as much as the

  adult you know they don't and that can

  be difficult when you have kids when

  they're there with you and so that's

  that's kind of a downside to October's

  also Oktoberfest for the July you have

  sparklers right also Oktoberfest you

  typically have to drive to they're

  usually not close to you and so there

  has to be like you know somebody has to

  be the designated driver and you got to

  worry about you know how how tired your

  kids are we're so that's why Oktoberfest

  was number three but fourth of July for

  me made number two because you know it's

  warmer it is similar appeal but it's

  usually like you know just at your house

  or at a friend's house so it's usually

  closer you probably didn't have to drive

  there or didn't have to drive very far

  your kids probably have more to do at

  barbecues maybe more of their friends

  are there or they're in their own house

  or they're running around their friend's

  house or whatever so yeah overall love

  love July 4th love barbecues and the the

  celebration of America as a thing you

  can take whatever you want from that in

  some years I feel proud of that in many

  years of my adult life I have not felt

  proud of that at least not without

  asterisks but you can kind of suppress

  that and pretty much enjoy it for what

  it is which is a nice summer BBQ holiday

  there you all right you're number one my

  number one which would should be to no

  surprise for anybody who has joy in

  their hearts is Christmas I love

  Christmas again no affiliation

  whatsoever with the religious ah city of

  Christmas even though I know it's a word

  it is I just made it up

  now you through me you through me anyway

  but you were at religious ah city oh

  really yes

  thank you let me pick that right up at

  religious ah City which I said so much

  better the first time I made it up

  but I know that that is why a lot of

  these holidays Easter and Christmas were

  founded and that they became kind of

  commercial monstrosity zuv themselves

  and you know what I embraced the

  commercial monstrosity

  I like it it is to me it's not about the

  commercialism of it it's about family

  and it's about reflecting ok screw that

  I don't I don't really reflect it is

  just about enjoy being enjoying your

  family enjoying the time of year having

  something to do when it's cold and

  wintery out that feels festive that kind

  of like brings in the winter season I

  love the food I cuz food okay

  I didn't pick Thanksgiving cuz now we're

  at my number one so you know what I

  think because oftentimes my mom makes

  Thanksgiving dinner on Christmas so er

  around Christmas close enough yeah and

  it's so I don't need I don't need it I

  don't need Thanksgiving I like I can

  have it on Christmas but food is great I

  think of it as a competitive sport to

  buy presents for people and get an

  awesome presents like to give an awesome

  present I should say to to purchase an

  awesome present for somebody else

  I just I love doing that whether it's

  something I end up making or it's

  something I find that's totally perfect

  that the person didn't think of I love

  doing that and then on top of that on

  top of buying an amazing present for

  your people you really care about you

  get to wrap it you get to wrap it and so

  cool like again crafts element Bing Bing

  Bing as you can tell as you go up my

  list besides the fourth of July which is

  pure fun or actually I would probably

  craft on that day too there is craft

  elements do all of my holiday picks and

  I just love killing it with the wrapping

  oh my gosh the bows the glitter the

  wrapping paper the the using only three

  pieces of tape so it all stays together

  and looks perfectly folded on all edges

  and everything matches and coordinates

  oh it's so good anyway in addition to

  that you get to decorate a tree which is

  kind of crafty you get to decorate your

  house which is kind of crafty you get to

  hang up lights you get to put twinkle

  lights all over your house that's

  amazing what else can you put like crazy

  crap all over your house and no one

  thinks you're crazy it's so great

  Christmas I'm sorry I got a I got really

  excited cookies you get to bake cookies

  yeah I mean I don't like Christmas music

  so that's out but everything else about

  this is just fantastic I like all of the

  satellite celebrations around Christmas

  yeah it's just Christmases is it and not

  because it's Christmas just because it

  is such a big holiday and there's so

  many parts to it there's so much to do

  there's so many different things that

  you can decide to participate in or not

  I just like all of that variety coming

  into one amazing holiday that's I

  figured you probably picked that oh and

  for another reason I picked it as my

  number one I don't feel myself growing

  out of the reasons I like it right

  because I shouldn't say growing out of I

  should say my son growing out of because

  the reason I like Halloween so much is

  making my son's costume the reason I

  like Easter so much is because it's

  really fun with Adam is a little kid and

  enjoying Easter and doing egg hunts and

  you know having his little Easter basket

  and him

  sited about finding the eggs like once

  he grows out of those two holidays

  there's not really much holding me to

  them yeah you know what I mean and so I

  can I can just leave those by the

  wayside having felt very good that I

  enjoyed them for his childhood and it

  was great and I'll look forward to if I

  end up being so lucky as to have

  grandchildren enjoying it with them but

  other than that it's more it's so much

  more of a kid holiday and I enjoyed it

  as a child also but now you know after

  after you're done with children like I

  don't I don't see myself holding on to

  it much more but with Christmas I

  totally see myself holding on to

  Christmas because the things I like

  about Christmas I like to do for myself

  you know like giving gifts to others

  then so much as I as doing something

  magical for a child although I do love

  getting at them Christmas gifts now it's

  pretty fun yeah thank you I like getting

  him toys that I want to play with like

  to me the reason so you know you notice

  like the theme of mine so far basically

  is like no gift-giving no emotional

  baggage no family obligations no

  significant travel no happens like you

  know fly home or drive hours away or

  anything like that

  and family get together aspect at

  Christmas - I like all that I like the

  gathering the lake for me it's hard for

  me to separate the stress that these

  holidays bring as an adult and for

  reasons that are too boring to get into

  on a podcast I have you know I have some

  family baggage issues with some of these

  holidays and so it makes it hard for me

  to really enjoy them when they have like

  emotional meaning and traditions and

  everything I have nothing to do with

  that baggage by the way exactly yeah

  just one thing it's not not the

  immediate family it's you know this

  household

  this one raised my hand and not on it

  not on my wife's side either and so

  there are reasons why it's hard for me

  to enjoy like those those holidays are

  not all positive for me and and

  Christmas is especially stressful for me

  because the way that you and your family

  loves getting gifts for people it

  stresses me out like too

  you it's an awesome sport and game to me

  it's just a constant source of anxiety

  because I'm not a great gift giver

  usually the way the way I squeak by is

  by waiting until kind of last minute and

  then just throwing some money at the

  problem and making it go away because I

  stress out about it too much I wait too

  long and I don't have whatever kind of

  like creativity is required to be an

  awesome gift giver I lack that and and

  so I'm always afraid that I'm not doing

  good enough job gift-giving now this is

  bigger this is becoming better now that

  we're focusing more on our kid because

  getting gifts for your own young kid

  like not only do you usually have a

  pretty idea of what they want but also

  there is more stuff that they don't have

  yet there's more stuff that they're

  interested in because like it's easy to

  get kids like toys and games and stuff

  it's a lot harder they get adults things

  they'll actually find useful or Pleasant

  so I actually considered putting on my

  list

  the day after Christmas because I love

  today after Christmas because we're

  still there with family and cookies and

  everything else like have you know

  spending time with everybody in though

  in the winter places and you know doing

  winter things and but the day after

  Christmas is so nice and low-key because

  all that gift-giving stuff is done and

  you have to kind of enjoy everyone's

  company and get fat and cookies like

  that to me is much more pleasant than

  the lead-up to Christmas itself since

  we're since you know holidays bring out

  emotions in people and you happen to

  just have a little moment there with our

  audience personal confessions a little

  bit I just want to say that I am NOT the

  source of this anxiety gift-giving

  situation I happen to provide a very

  healthy wish list to a particularly teal

  jewelry store let's call it and I think

  I think I provide you with very little

  stress when it comes to thinking about

  what gifts up to get your loved ones

  there is some years some years are are

  easier than others but anyway I'm not

  I'm not the source so my number one kind

  of going on this theme

  clearly I like eating holidays you

  should do I also like holidays that

  don't involve gift-giving family

  obligations tradition or

  stress or travel I can't think of what

  this how last holiday would be you would

  never think of it it's a holiday that

  most people don't think about oh geez

  but it happens every year oh my gosh at

  the end of the summer what's happening

  and it's Labor Day what so what I

  thought about it okay so Labor Day it

  happens you know early September hold on

  who puts Labor Day at the top of their

  list I do

  that's who so it happens early September

  that means it is still beautiful weather

  outside it's it's still either summer

  weather or early fall weather so it's

  cool right

  right back to school yeah that's fun for

  us now right so yeah this so this works

  out right so as a parent so you know

  your kid goes back to school which most

  kids either either feel indifferent

  about or don't like but parents love it

  your kid goes back to school you still

  have beautiful summer weather Labor Day

  is a three-day weekend that almost

  always involves barbecues and maybe a

  family get-together but at least a

  barbecue right so like you have all

  these wonderful things that I love from

  other holidays but it's also you know

  the it's also getting a little bit

  cooler usually in the weather so it's

  like a little bit less hot summer heat

  you have your kids going back to school

  right afterwards so you can kind of

  return to like a more regular schedule

  after summer craziness and it's usually

  followed very closely by dogs swim at

  our local city pool because they drain

  the pool after the after it closes for

  the season which is usually around Labor

  Day and then the day before the drain it

  dogs get to come to a minute so dog

  swims always a fun event so basically

  you have a holiday that gives everyone a

  day off fills me with great barbecues

  and nice warm weather and then their

  kids I'll go back to school and their

  dogs get a fun date dog swim on the same

  day that all doesn't happen just on one

  day because of this day what's the

  history of Labor Day I don't know who

  cares it's different like Memorial Day

  has Mindy's benefits but I feel like I

  need to feel bad about fallen soldiers

  like that's that's a serious thing it's

  a serious reason we have it Labor Day I

  think it's some kind of like you know

  just like give people a day off for like

  you know

  unions and labor stuff kind of thing

  right isn't it isn't that work I don't

  know because Labor Day is not on my list

  because it doesn't matter what it means

  all that matters is you have barbecues

  and it's nice and it's in the summertime

  so your beautiful weather beautiful food

  a nice three-day weekend where you don't

  really have to do anything except enjoy

  your day off that is awesome

  you're just staring at me amazing

  Thanks listening everybody and if teeth

  have regains the ability to talk to me

  we will talk to you probably next month

  when we talk about something else that

  it yeah that's it thanks everyone see

  you next time