0:00:00she tries 10 do I have to yeah yeah you
0:00:03have to fancy pen people just try it
0:00:06it's it's awesome
0:00:08you should try em yeah don't look at my
0:00:10notes what is this this is called what
0:00:12it's the stubby blue thing just write
0:00:14with it doesn't matter what's called you
0:00:15called tornado stop just probably retro
0:00:19something I just got a refill for it
0:00:22let me see we got here actually nice yes
0:00:26that writes very well yeah like yeah
0:00:30it's actually yeah well one no
0:00:32definitely not
0:00:32I can get it in black no that's okay I
0:00:35mean if I I don't like I don't write
0:00:38with anything with pens ever like if I I
0:00:41don't write anything down if I was gonna
0:00:43ever if I was gonna start writing things
0:00:45down on a regular basis then I would
0:00:47probably just want an iPad Pro and I
0:00:49would use the pen the Apple pencil and
0:00:51the note daily yeah really I don't I
0:00:53don't write I just give me the pen back
0:00:56you don't deserve nice pens that is a
0:00:58nice pen though thank you
0:01:00it's like it's like saying if somebody
0:01:02has like a really nice SUV like I don't
0:01:03really want an SUV that's you but I'm
0:01:06willing to recognize whether an SUV is
0:01:08nice or not there's a bunch of
0:01:09children's soccer balls in it
0:01:11yeah I'd also don't I'm not sure I can
0:01:13name a nice SUV actually I don't know
0:01:15anyway so we're doing top 4 yes
0:01:18bagels top four bagels now do I forget
0:01:22where we land on whether we're including
0:01:25obviously we're gonna talk about bagel
0:01:27flavors but are we also going to talk
0:01:28about like entire bagel sandwiches like
0:01:31what all goes on that bagel your
0:01:33favorite bagel flavor you have to have
0:01:36reasons behind it and one of those
0:01:37reasons should obviously you have
0:01:39reasons it should include sandwich or
0:01:43not so you want to decide you know like
0:01:46the reason you like the bagel is based
0:01:49on its application in your life that you
0:01:52prefer so if you like if you're a
0:01:54sandwich person and you prefer bagels
0:01:56most with sandwich you're obviously
0:01:58going to pick the superior bagel
0:02:00sandwich bagel but if you like it with
0:02:03butter or you like it with cream cheese
0:02:04that's gonna be your preference is
0:02:06whatever your favorite bagel is with
0:02:08those accoutrement I guess you would say
0:02:11okay that makes sense though
0:02:13so that so that should inform your
0:02:15listing decisions because I mean no one
0:02:18just eats a plain bagel I mean who does
0:02:20that you're like yes somebody does
0:02:22children with no teeth like little
0:02:25babies that gnaw on bagels yeah even
0:02:28they tended like so memory isn't better
0:02:29yeah well they like anything cuz they
0:02:31just like gumming it to death and then
0:02:33it becomes like a big messy lump cuz
0:02:36they're so cute yeah it's so cute when
0:02:38they eat anyway babies they're all just
0:02:44gumming on bagels first yeah I could go
0:02:49first I have a toss up for my number
0:02:53four because okay I have for right
0:02:57perfectly just for the record you know
0:02:58all the other ones okay two and three
0:03:00I'm also waffling but number one is the
0:03:03cure two and three are waffling between
0:03:04each other and number four is okay let
0:03:07me tell you why I'm feelin all weird
0:03:08here because my number four choice
0:03:12potentially would be a bagel that I do
0:03:14not get access to very often which is
0:03:17asiago cheese
0:03:18I have not hat don't say anything yet
0:03:21stop looking at me like that
0:03:23okay asiago cheese I've only had it in
0:03:26Ohio from a bagel place that were
0:03:29Brooklyn people who came and started a
0:03:31bagel place so it wasn't just like
0:03:34bruger's or something like that out
0:03:36there none of the blocks yes I had it a
0:03:39blocks okay so it was sure I didn't they
0:03:43offered that flavor yes I had it with a
0:03:45chicken salad on it and it's very very
0:03:47good with chicken salad okay maybe I did
0:03:48have it at bruger's oh my gosh so I saw
0:03:52your cheese bagels I mean so I know my
0:03:55world is just okay my number four bagel
0:03:57is a blueberry bagel because it is
0:04:01accessible everywhere that our great
0:04:03bagels are accessible which is all of
0:04:05the New York lower area which has the
0:04:08best bagels the New York the lower New
0:04:12York region yeah okay pocket that's okay
0:04:16keep going yeah so blueberry yeah I was
0:04:21gonna say asiago cheese because I really
0:04:23do like it I haven't had it in a very
0:04:25long time I think it's kind of a really
0:04:27good
0:04:27savory it has like the cheese melted I
0:04:29don't know it's just very good but it is
0:04:30kind of a base of a plain bagel with
0:04:33kind of a mild cheese on it melted kind
0:04:36of like into it ish
0:04:38so yeah honorable mention Accio which is
0:04:41number four blueberry because blueberry
0:04:44bagels are excellent and they sound
0:04:46really weird and they sound like
0:04:47something a child would have but I like
0:04:51them a lot they do not taste like
0:04:52blueberry cake donuts that is very sweet
0:04:57this is more of a weird savory blueberry
0:05:00happening and I really like it with
0:05:02plain cream cheese interesting no see
0:05:05like eye or butter yeah usually I would
0:05:08expect the the fruity bagels the
0:05:10cinnamon raisin and the blueberry to be
0:05:12toasted with butter most of the time
0:05:14well toast with butter does bring it
0:05:16like a little bit more sweetness to it
0:05:18especially because you know you have
0:05:19sweet cream butter and all that has
0:05:20stuff but if you want more of a
0:05:22substantial breakfast I guess blueberry
0:05:26with cream cheese is there is really
0:05:28really really good and it's way better
0:05:30than all of the other weird seeded
0:05:32bagels that are out there I should say
0:05:36lonely seeded bagels we will get there
0:05:39better man those are terrible and plain
0:05:44why bother why bother we are in complete
0:05:47agreement on that yeah plain to me a
0:05:49plain bagel plain bagels are delicious
0:05:51however there are so many better bagels
0:05:55I would rather get any other bagel than
0:05:56plain I feel like then you're just
0:05:57eating like a dough ring like well I
0:06:00mean okay bad bagels our dough rings
0:06:02good bagels are malted nice and
0:06:03delicious but like a plain bit it's just
0:06:06like you might as well I don't know I
0:06:07rather pick a croissant you know I
0:06:09actually that's a tough call between
0:06:11like it's been the mode of meeting if if
0:06:14I have like you know a croissant with
0:06:15you know stuff in it or like a plain
0:06:17bagel like you know maybe with with some
0:06:19flavored cream cheese on it or toast it
0:06:21with some nice butter like I would
0:06:23rather have other bagel flavors if I
0:06:25have the option but if I don't have the
0:06:26option if my option is either plain
0:06:28bagel or like just plain old bread I
0:06:30would take the bagel over the bread even
0:06:32if it's plain however there are so many
0:06:35good breads now like all the crazy
0:06:37breads that come out the focaccia and
0:06:39something-something and the flat this
0:06:41and the I suppose I see that I don't
0:06:43know but like there's lots of different
0:06:45breads out there that if I'm gonna have
0:06:47a bagel I'm gonna want my favorite bagel
0:06:49flavors my top four bagels favorite play
0:06:51baby before favorite bagel flavors or
0:06:57something else that's okay that's a
0:07:00difference in opinion yep
0:07:02speaking of another difference of
0:07:03opinion that was almost the same my
0:07:04number four bagel is yes I go cheese
0:07:07bagel really good stir over there
0:07:11because I pick the same thing thinking
0:07:13that you wouldn't have so my number yeah
0:07:16so I cheese bagels you know they most
0:07:18New York bagel places don't even offer
0:07:20them that's why I kind of was like
0:07:23honorable mention waffling because no
0:07:25it's not around here it's not a true
0:07:28bagel flavor well it's not an old-school
0:07:30bagel flavor it's alright it isn't the
0:07:31traditional bagel flavor and I think a
0:07:34lot of places don't offer it or don't
0:07:36consider it or even look down on it
0:07:38because it isn't one of the like
0:07:39old-school traditional like New York
0:07:41slash Jewish previously how fast did the
0:07:44cinnamon sugar a french toast bagel
0:07:48we're all into everyone's baskets in the
0:07:50in the bagel places sure similar that
0:07:52jumped the that that jumped in pretty
0:07:54quickly and now it's like a standard in
0:07:56most places that's true I mean maybe
0:07:58maybe that one sells a lots of kids and
0:07:59that's one of the reasons I don't know
0:08:01anyway regardless people like Sarah the
0:08:04usher good cheese bagel I it seemed to
0:08:06become really big in like the early
0:08:072000s with with the spread of the big
0:08:09chain bagel stores and and then ideas
0:08:12and and I feel a New York don't even
0:08:15know what those are no they would never
0:08:17survive here exactly so I first had them
0:08:20at bruger's and Panera and actually
0:08:22first Panera I think then bruger's I
0:08:24think they are kind of swept the nation
0:08:26with the I see I go cheese bagel then
0:08:28everyone else kind of followed suit but
0:08:30what I like about it and I think it
0:08:33deserves more respect than it gets
0:08:35because it has brought a lot of people
0:08:38like Midwesterners in to bagels a lot
0:08:40more effectively than previous attempts
0:08:42had do you think that there's a secret
0:08:44bagel cartel happening in New York State
0:08:47that keeps out the chain bagel places I
0:08:50think it's the I first of
0:08:53do we know that I mean they they have
0:08:55Panera's in the New York area but no one
0:08:57buys their Pagels I don't know I don't
0:09:01even think they make they make them for
0:09:02the sandwiches I guess but that's about
0:09:04it I mean if you know one going in
0:09:06buying a dozen bagels from Panera I mean
0:09:07I bet sigh but people do I mean people
0:09:09having shoes at Subway in the city I
0:09:11will judge them so hard if someone
0:09:14brought a dozen Panera bagels to our
0:09:16house I'd be like what are you doing
0:09:20yeah not not so much that that like
0:09:22they're bad but just we have so many
0:09:25problems better like I rather they go to
0:09:27a really crappy bagel place then bring
0:09:30Panera because at least so the bagel
0:09:33place that that were I'm not going to
0:09:35name it because it's mean but there's a
0:09:37bagel place that's near us that is I
0:09:40think worse than Panera hotring of
0:09:42garbage yeah so I don't know anyway I
0:09:46shall go cheese bagel I think deserves
0:09:48special mention here because it really
0:09:52has advanced bagel flavors past the old
0:09:54cartel flavors and it was like one of
0:09:56the first ones to do that and it really
0:09:58has brought in a lot of people from the
0:09:59rest of the country who did who aren't
0:10:00in like bagel strong areas and also as
0:10:04just a you know the reason why I thought
0:10:06my number four is not just for honorable
0:10:08mention because it really is a very good
0:10:11bagel for sandwiches I don't think it's
0:10:14very good toasting it I it's actually
0:10:17kinda difficult to touch with it making
0:10:18a catch on fire because the cheese tends
0:10:20to burn but anyway so don't toast them
0:10:22but for sandwiches I I think they're
0:10:25actually quite good if you're gonna have
0:10:27like like Turkey or something like you
0:10:29know exactly right yeah it works it
0:10:36totally works
0:10:36so I think it is great for that it is my
0:10:40number four for that reason so my
0:10:42brother he moved out to Moline Illinois
0:10:45and he lives out there and works for
0:10:47John Deere and being a New Yorker in you
0:10:51know the the corn Heartland out there a
0:10:53whole bunch of people they eat bagels in
0:10:58their shop and the bagels they get are
0:11:00like lender's bagels from the grocery
0:11:02store like in bags right that's what I
0:11:04grew up on in Ohio which is right
0:11:06I love them they were so good so they're
0:11:10barely bagels but okay so when he went
0:11:13home he was telling us about this he's
0:11:16like I can't believe the bagels they
0:11:17have out there they're so terrible so he
0:11:19brought to them a whole bunch of New
0:11:22York bagels like we packed them all up
0:11:24and and he he brought them back to
0:11:26Illinois and when he put them out for
0:11:29everyone at breakfast they were all
0:11:31really confused that they weren't cut
0:11:33and they're like what kind of cheap
0:11:36bagel place do you get these from that
0:11:38they don't cut their bagels and he's
0:11:40like you're so used to them being from
0:11:42the package that you just expect them
0:11:45all to be cut whether they're from a
0:11:46fresh bakery or they're from the grocery
0:11:49store and that to me is just astounding
0:11:51so I put a lot of people listening right
0:11:52now are like wow yeah yeah we don't cut
0:11:55our bagels they just arrive in a brown
0:11:57bag do you think there are any listeners
0:12:00that have made it this far into both
0:12:01knowing us and also into listening to
0:12:03this episode who don't know like proper
0:12:07East Coast bagels it's possible Wow if
0:12:09you I mean look at the the guys that my
0:12:11brother was working with you know and
0:12:13and guys and and women who my brother
0:12:15was working with but they aren't listen
0:12:16to our show they're not listening to our
0:12:18show but I mean they're out there and
0:12:20they didn't expect that to show up when
0:12:22he you know my brother tells them oh I'm
0:12:24gonna bring you real bagels and then he
0:12:26shows up and they're like no I'm just
0:12:28surprised that those people would be
0:12:29tolerating us this long I figured if he
0:12:32were that much if you were that far from
0:12:34like bagels snobbery culture I figure
0:12:37you would have turned this off long ago
0:12:38well some people like to get knowledge
0:12:40regardless right well for those people
0:12:43we salute you know if there are people
0:12:46listening out there who have not had a
0:12:50like coastal bagel california bagels are
0:12:56kind of weak i mean i mean but there are
0:12:58plenty i mean look at the place blocks
0:12:59in in columbus you know there are plenty
0:13:03of places where brooklyn natives or
0:13:06someone New York native has gone out and
0:13:08brought bagel making technology to the
0:13:11rest of the world no it's serious like
0:13:13in a kettle yeah I mean a lot of places
0:13:16don't boil their bagels that's like a
0:13:18weird thing not weird but that's like
0:13:20the way to make
0:13:21people a lot of people don't know how to
0:13:22make an authentic New York bagel yeah
0:13:25it's just you know they think they're
0:13:27making bagels but they're just making
0:13:29rings of dough right they're making
0:13:31circular bread with a hole in the middle
0:13:33yeah and oftentimes that doesn't even
0:13:35work out no all right what's your number
0:13:38three all right
0:13:39my number three is the cinnamon raisin
0:13:42interesting I know I have two sweet ones
0:13:44so that yeah number three double yeah
0:13:46cinnamon raisin is my number three it
0:13:48was almost my number two as I really
0:13:50like it but it's my number three and I
0:13:52love it with scallion cream cheese a
0:13:54little salty sweet that is weird
0:13:56it's so awesome and you don't think as
0:13:58well you think it's weird every time but
0:14:00you totally know my order it and see I I
0:14:03totally respect both the cinnamon raisin
0:14:05bagel and scallion cream cheese on their
0:14:08own and in other combinations I love
0:14:10both of those things however the
0:14:12combination of those two is really weird
0:14:14oh no it's so good okay listeners out
0:14:16there you're gonna first you're gonna
0:14:18tell us if you're from the Midwest and
0:14:19have never seen a real bagel second
0:14:21you're going to tell us you're going to
0:14:23go out right now if it's the morning and
0:14:26you're gonna get yourself a bagel and
0:14:27you're gonna get yourself some scallion
0:14:29cream cheese and you will put them
0:14:30together and you will be amazed at how
0:14:32delicious it is that's right I should
0:14:34also point out to you said if it's the
0:14:37morning to go to bagels it is not
0:14:39possible to get good bagels after about
0:14:422:00 p.m.
0:14:43oh no yeah yeah you cannot no yeah don't
0:14:47do it like it really goes later get an
0:14:50early bagel and then wrap it up and and
0:14:53keep it I don't know because they leave
0:14:54them out in the baskets that's the
0:14:55problem so if you get early bagels
0:14:57you can always wrap them up and keep
0:14:58them a little bit more moist in like a
0:15:01paper bag in a plastic bag paper and
0:15:04then plastic over that and then your
0:15:06bagel will last exactly all right so my
0:15:09number three it's kind of a valley to
0:15:12find flavor it's kind of the general
0:15:15category of like medium brown
0:15:18whole-wheat honey kind of like wheat
0:15:22bagels that usually have oats adhered to
0:15:24the outside yes I know what you're
0:15:28talking about but I can't believe that's
0:15:29on your list it is because the first one
0:15:32my list is short as you'll see well it
0:15:34should
0:15:34for yes and they're thinking about it
0:15:39yeah I see that for you
0:15:41yeah yeah so yeah I actually a travel
0:15:44coming up before
0:15:46that's how blueberry got on my list
0:15:48exactly crazy thing so so these these
0:15:50kind of like you know we honey wheat
0:15:52whatever whole wheat whatever with oats
0:15:54on the outside those are excellent
0:15:57when toasted with butter and that is
0:16:00it's such a nice like um kind of unique
0:16:03combo of like texture and flavor and
0:16:05everything I really enjoy that as a
0:16:08breakfast combo just the whole wheat
0:16:10with oats on the outside toast with
0:16:12butter I always feel like that the whole
0:16:14wheat bagel has a little bit of bagel
0:16:16guilt that you're eating a whole wheat
0:16:17bagel because you feel guilty for eating
0:16:19a bagel so you're really oh the whole
0:16:22wheat because it's better right yeah I
0:16:25mean I hold none of those illusions but
0:16:29or whatever that word is there but
0:16:30delusions delusions there we go that's
0:16:33much better
0:16:34yeah English major obviously yeah so I
0:16:37hold none of those delusions I know that
0:16:40every time I eat a bagel it's just the
0:16:41way too much carbs and gluten and
0:16:44everything for what we should be doing
0:16:46but yeah that combo whole wheat with
0:16:49oats and an side with toast with butter
0:16:50awesome
0:16:50bagel guilt okay my number two is the
0:16:54everything bagel I do not like all these
0:16:59seeded bagels I do not like regular
0:17:01poppy seed or sesame seed I do not like
0:17:04the single bagels I all a single seeded
0:17:06bagels I only like the multi seed bagel
0:17:09and the reason the multi seed bagel is
0:17:12the best because it has salt and it has
0:17:15garlic on it and it doesn't have those
0:17:18flavors so exclusively like there's so
0:17:21much it's so it's not just like a salt
0:17:23bag or bagel which exists if everyone is
0:17:26surprised by that who is not from over
0:17:28around here or a garlic bagel which is
0:17:32just way too much garlic because a lot
0:17:34of times they do put the garlic in the
0:17:35dough as well so it has yeah John I've
0:17:39never seen that I mean I should point
0:17:41out like garlicky those are garlic
0:17:43bagels I should point out about bagels
0:17:45too they have it in the dough
0:17:46they have salt in the dough you
0:17:48well yeah they put that it's extra salt
0:17:49like it there's chunks of salt in the
0:17:51dough sometimes mmm that's weird is it
0:17:54no I mean so I should point out so I
0:17:56worked at bruger's in high school in
0:17:58Ohio and so my my experience of like how
0:18:03the bagel restaurants work is solely
0:18:05based on that which was granted
0:18:07something like sixteen seventeen years
0:18:11ago and was also a provers in Ohio so
0:18:15obviously I don't know I've never worked
0:18:16in like a like a you know quote a real
0:18:17bagel store but I do know from back then
0:18:20like all the flavors that they did you
0:18:23know like the all the seeded bagels and
0:18:25the salt and Moe which kind of council
0:18:28those were all based on the plain bagel
0:18:30dough you know just whatever seed you
0:18:32put on top you know many of the flavors
0:18:34just have the same plain bagel dough in
0:18:36the middle and you just put different
0:18:37things on top some of them are a little
0:18:40bit more complicated than that certain
0:18:41bagel places its but yeah it's possible
0:18:43like hot bagels I'm pretty sure they put
0:18:45it all in it's it's tricky you know what
0:18:48what makes garlic and onion so good on
0:18:51the outside of a bagel
0:18:52is that they are baked so it gets kind
0:18:55of toasted garlic right when it goes on
0:18:58it's not it's raw when it goes on it
0:18:59gets toasted in the baked and so if you
0:19:02if you put these on the inside in the
0:19:03dough it doesn't really work it doesn't
0:19:05really develop that that nice toasty
0:19:07flavor so it act that that's you know
0:19:10even you can think about it like you
0:19:11know when you bake things at home you
0:19:12have the same issue of like when
0:19:14something's inside something it takes on
0:19:16a very different characteristic when
0:19:18cooking than when it's on the outside
0:19:20being toasted or heated directly okay
0:19:22for the sake of argument then we can say
0:19:24it's only outside but anyway regardless
0:19:26of what's on the outside I don't like
0:19:28when they are singular things on the
0:19:29outside I find them too strong and so I
0:19:32but for an everything bagel I like the
0:19:35combination and the balance that it
0:19:37brings and I believe that the best
0:19:39interior for an everything bagel is
0:19:40chicken salad because it it's not as
0:19:44it's not like you're biting through a
0:19:46wall of meat or a wall of vegetables
0:19:48depending on what you put on your sliced
0:19:51kind of sandwiches or like a wall of
0:19:53cheese those type of things taste much
0:19:55better on the asiago cheese bagel and
0:19:58but for the everything bagel the
0:20:01the the velvety texture of a really good
0:20:04chicken salad balance is super well with
0:20:07all the flavors of an everything so I
0:20:09love everything bagels I would not toast
0:20:12it with butter I find it that to be too
0:20:14strong there's like too much seed going
0:20:17on well there's a lot of salt if you do
0:20:19that because you have salted butter on
0:20:20top of a salty bagel it's okay with
0:20:22cream cheese scallion cream cheese is
0:20:25very good with an everything bagel but
0:20:27there are other bagels which is my
0:20:28number one bagel that is better off with
0:20:32cream cheese so chicken salad on and
0:20:34everything bagel is my number two and
0:20:36also want to point out that oftentimes
0:20:38everything bagels they get quarantined
0:20:40in their own little bag because people
0:20:42get horrified when everything bagels
0:20:44kind of assault all the other bagels in
0:20:47the bag yeah you know acid step yeah
0:20:49that's totally fair because that that is
0:20:50obviously what happens like you know you
0:20:52put a but especially good like when you
0:20:53put good bagels into a bag they're
0:20:56probably still warm so you have this bag
0:20:58worth if there's all this like kind of
0:20:59like semi like steamy moisture in there
0:21:01and the moisture makes the onion and the
0:21:04garlic on the everything bagel is very
0:21:05sticky yep and it makes it stick to all
0:21:07the other bagels that are near its it's
0:21:11very like it's it's kind of like a bagel
0:21:12faux pas to package everything bagels
0:21:14into a mixed dozen touching everything
0:21:17there's are a lot of people that do not
0:21:20like everything bagels at all like they
0:21:22really don't like them so it's a strong
0:21:24flavor and any of the other flavors
0:21:26don't seem to contaminate each other but
0:21:28the everything definitely does yeah I
0:21:30mean I'm sure you know if you got only
0:21:32onion or only garlic yeah those should
0:21:34probably be quarantined too but honestly
0:21:36I don't know I've never seen anybody a
0:21:39quarantine onion or and well I've ever
0:21:41seen anybody even buy them with the
0:21:42exception of what I worked at bruger's
0:21:43well you know people would would buy
0:21:45them there but not often absent in the
0:21:48rest of the world now in civilization
0:21:50where like you know I've just been a
0:21:52customer going these places and you know
0:21:54just be ordering myself ordering with
0:21:57friends you know ordering dozens and
0:21:58everything I've never seen anybody I
0:22:00don't think order a garlic or onion
0:22:03bagel or at least it's very very rare
0:22:05because to me it's like if you're gonna
0:22:07have those flavors I'm with you on like
0:22:10I don't want that much of them as when
0:22:14they're when they're so low
0:22:15i if you're gonna have those flavors at
0:22:17all I feel like you're probably gonna
0:22:18like the everything bagel better because
0:22:20it has so much more and it's I think
0:22:22it's in better balance yep that's the X
0:22:24that's exactly why I said um but so but
0:22:26when you go up to the counter and you're
0:22:28like hey give me a dozen and they give
0:22:30you 15 because that's the New York dozen
0:22:33I guess don't they just throw in no you
0:22:38tell me what you want I mean if you just
0:22:39I'm sure like you're bringing the bagels
0:22:45to somebody and so you don't have
0:22:47specific orders like oh yeah I was just
0:22:49gonna say have you ever gotten bagels at
0:22:51school of course not because your school
0:22:53isn't Ohio so you didn't get bagels in
0:22:54school but we had teachers bring us
0:22:56bagels in school because my school was
0:22:58amazing and movie school yeah we had our
0:23:05robot to go to the bagel store and get
0:23:07us bagels and then we swam the pool and
0:23:09looked at stars in the planetarium so
0:23:11after we did all that we had some bagels
0:23:13none of those things were jokes yeah
0:23:16it's a public school so like you if
0:23:21you're freaking for a group of people
0:23:23just breakfast occasionally bought
0:23:25bagels like for the office to bring in
0:23:27you don't know who's gonna like what so
0:23:29you just go up to the guy and you're
0:23:30like just give me a dozen of everything
0:23:33like give me something of everything
0:23:34I've never I've always specific made it
0:23:37just cuz I'm me and I like to control
0:23:39things but I've never specifically order
0:23:41things like that and I would even argue
0:23:42that if you're getting a sort of bagels
0:23:44for an unknown audience or people with
0:23:47unknown tastes I would argue that garlic
0:23:50or onion and even poppy maybe would be
0:23:53bad choices because not enough people
0:23:55like that much of those things salt too
0:23:58is risky my own that's my mom's favorite
0:24:00bagel assault bagel your mom is the only
0:24:03person I've ever met who eats salt
0:24:04bagels including the time when I worked
0:24:06at burgers and sold them every day no
0:24:08I've never met anyone who really but she
0:24:10loves him but she when she gets them she
0:24:13takes some of the salt off the top
0:24:14because it's too much because it's
0:24:16literally like crusted with salt yeah
0:24:19the salt bail is when I was recruiters
0:24:21those were always the ones that you'd
0:24:23have the most left at the end of the day
0:24:24like every other flavor you know you'd
0:24:26be baking them throughout the morning as
0:24:28to run out of things the salt bagel
0:24:30you'd only have to bake once and you'd
0:24:33only you'd throw on like maybe six of
0:24:36them for the whole day and there would
0:24:38always be some left and I mean there's
0:24:40no reason to even have them except that
0:24:41like those like for people who would
0:24:44come in during the day wanting a salt
0:24:45bagel would you like if that's what you
0:24:48want and you're out of that like there
0:24:50is no substitute that is not salty the
0:24:52everything comes a little bit of along
0:24:54the way but it's no but then you have to
0:24:55have all the other flavors too if you
0:24:57don't want all that and you just want
0:24:58like a very like if you like a lot of
0:25:00salt like that's yeah it's it's
0:25:02basically a pretzel at that point that's
0:25:04right you're right that's exactly what
0:25:06it is but it's it's salt people who
0:25:08really like pretzels but it's even
0:25:10saltier than most salty pretzels yeah
0:25:13yeah as I said my mom she always thumbs
0:25:15off half the salt right yeah yeah so
0:25:19there she was one of those very few
0:25:21people who eat salt bagels yep I always
0:25:22got to get a salt bagel from one in the
0:25:24dozen for my family so as your number
0:25:27two my number two is also a kind of
0:25:30vaguely defined flavor but it's a little
0:25:32more narrow it is the the Rye family so
0:25:36this includes rye pumpernickel and
0:25:38marble which is right plus pumpernickel
0:25:40is pumpernickel really is a rye weight
0:25:42so your top four bagels are not for
0:25:43bagels we're not doing top four families
0:25:46of bagels
0:25:47well it's pumpernickel is rye and
0:25:50there's also some times where I with
0:25:52seeds in it and there's also sometimes
0:25:53marbled rye which is yeah so it's well
0:25:55you got a pick one because it doesn't
0:25:56matter when there's sometimes you got to
0:25:58pick which one if you went to the most
0:26:00beautiful perfect bagel place ever and
0:26:03you and they have had everything that
0:26:06you ever ever had and you you want to
0:26:09try it or you want to taste so they have
0:26:11a rye and the marble of rye and a
0:26:13pumpernickel what would you pick that's
0:26:16a really tough call I think I'd probably
0:26:18go rye but I also use the bagel shop of
0:26:22our mind
0:26:22I wouldn't go marble because to me you
0:26:24got to commit one or the other okay so
0:26:26you got to take that off the list but
0:26:28but if only one of these is available it
0:26:30still gets that slot that's what I'm
0:26:32saying okay all right and I like these
0:26:35for the same reason I like the the wheat
0:26:37with oats on the outside toasting it
0:26:39with butter is just awesome like a nice
0:26:42Rai family bagel toasted with butter
0:26:44with or without the caraway seeds I
0:26:46don't mind I don't mind them and that in
0:26:47bread they don't belong there but in
0:26:49vehicles I don't mind them that is a
0:26:51fantastic combo just the you know like
0:26:53the nice ride flavor with the butter all
0:26:56through it and a nice crisp coating on
0:26:58the outside that that is fantastic and
0:27:01again hard to beat for for the butter
0:27:04combo most of your bagels seem to be
0:27:06preferable with butter well there's a
0:27:08reason for that that I'll get to but so
0:27:11yeah I mean so you know number four is
0:27:13Asiago that's not a butter bingo that's
0:27:14a sandwich bagel so I have a sandwich at
0:27:16the bottom I know two are both kind of
0:27:18butter only bagels like I wouldn't put a
0:27:19sandwich on a rye or a wheat so what's
0:27:22your number one my number one bagel is
0:27:25the best universal bagel that is great
0:27:29with cream cheese it's great with plain
0:27:33cream cheese or flavored cream cheese of
0:27:35pretty much any flavor it is wonderful
0:27:38with sandwiches
0:27:39it is wonderful with sandwich salads it
0:27:42is just the best
0:27:44it is fantastic toasted with butter it
0:27:46is just the universally it's like it's
0:27:49like the o-blood type of bagels right
0:27:52it's not the no I well it's like
0:27:54versatile receiver baby I think oh is
0:27:57the donor I don't know anyway it's it's
0:27:59the most universal blood bagel of bagels
0:28:03I'm getting crazy here okay it's the egg
0:28:06bagel the egg bagel is the best bagel it
0:28:09has a flavor but yet it can carry all
0:28:12other flavors it is just no don't listen
0:28:16it is amazing
0:28:18think of it it is it is just crisp and
0:28:20it has its own like rich texture and
0:28:23flavor that with just butter or it can
0:28:26carry like a really sweet cream cheese
0:28:29like strawberry cream cheese or it could
0:28:31carry more of a savory cream cheese like
0:28:33a scallion or vegetable Oh egg bagel
0:28:37with vegetable cream cheese come on it's
0:28:40amazing yeah and you could have it with
0:28:43sandwiches it's so good with like turkey
0:28:45and cheese I agree with most of what
0:28:49you've said so it is my best most number
0:28:52one for sure' top of the charts bagel
0:28:54because it goes with
0:28:56everything and I always feel like it
0:28:57there is never anything that I would
0:28:59feel like going on a bagel that wouldn't
0:29:01be great with an egg bagel don't didn't
0:29:03ah egg bagel see I wonder if the egg
0:29:07bagel is really very similar to the
0:29:09plain big don't say that oh no no I'm
0:29:12not saying it's that's horrible just
0:29:14take it back that in our kits very
0:29:16similar the a bagel is not that much of
0:29:19a departure from the plain bagel it's
0:29:20really a very subtle difference it's not
0:29:22very subtle it is bright yellow
0:29:24first of all in color it's effective all
0:29:26in flow
0:29:27there's flavor if you bite into a plain
0:29:30bagel you're just like bagel whatever
0:29:33but if you bite into an egg bake oh you
0:29:36were like wow this feels like a plane
0:29:38because there's not a lot of you know
0:29:40crazy texture going on there and that's
0:29:42a reason why it's so universal because
0:29:43it doesn't like distract from a whole
0:29:45bunch of things but it has this great
0:29:48rich flavor to it that you feel like
0:29:53you're eating something and not just a
0:29:55ring of dough like it's like an eggy
0:29:56bread like it's like when you have a
0:29:59slice of challah bread versus a slice of
0:30:01you know like white Italian bread or
0:30:04something you know the challah bread has
0:30:06like something to it you got some like
0:30:07mmm right like it's there I I loved
0:30:10challah bread and I and I like egg
0:30:11bagels like a mop-up some sauce it's
0:30:15okay don't mean I agree with with how
0:30:18much you like the a bagel but I think a
0:30:20lot of that applies to the plane it's
0:30:23the egg bagel is better for sure I'm not
0:30:25gonna doubt that but I don't think the
0:30:27difference between egg and plain is as
0:30:29big as you the plain bagel cannot carry
0:30:31butter the way an egg bagel can a plain
0:30:34bagel cannot carry plain cream cheese
0:30:36the way an egg bagel can no contest I
0:30:40wonder I love to do it I'd be willing to
0:30:44do a blind test with you to see if you
0:30:46can actually I take that on against
0:30:50plain blind
0:30:51tomorrow morning let's go you mean we're
0:30:55going Ardsley okay do it I wonder I mean
0:30:59and I mean you try what happened when be
0:31:02a little hard to control because like
0:31:04the two bagels might might have been
0:31:05like differently made or differently
0:31:07we're going 6:00 in the morning I am
0:31:09yeah well I'm saying we may have to do
0:31:11multiple tests to really make it valid
0:31:13hey when our friends didn't believe us
0:31:15that we did not like that one bagel
0:31:17place and thought that the bagel is that
0:31:18we go to was superior and they tried to
0:31:20bring over those bagels that time and
0:31:22they tried to trick us and be like oh
0:31:24here take this bagel
0:31:26we knew the second that bagel came out
0:31:28of the bag that that was from the bad
0:31:30bagel place oh not the good bagel place
0:31:32and they were very surprised by that and
0:31:34said okay from now on when we get you
0:31:36bagels we'll get it from the good place
0:31:37because they're amazing friends but I
0:31:39bet that I will be able to taste test
0:31:42this no problem blind and I will be able
0:31:46to tell the difference I think you
0:31:47probably will be would you be doing it
0:31:49plane like totally unadulterated with
0:31:51anything or would we toast both of them
0:31:53with butter or something on them see I
0:31:56mean the more variables you put in the
0:31:58harder it is to control but as long as I
0:32:00have the same variables yeah I mean I
0:32:03would say toast with butter would be a
0:32:05good overall test cuz day and more
0:32:07certain I will get it right right well
0:32:09cuz but plane you play would actually be
0:32:11easier because there be fewer like the
0:32:13the salty fetters the butter is going to
0:32:15actually distract you from the make
0:32:17bagel I am ready okay and it's like my
0:32:21superpower I think you probably will be
0:32:23able to tell the difference but I I
0:32:24really I'm hoping that you'll really be
0:32:26honest but like how different is it
0:32:28really and I want to I want to tell to
0:32:30like you know how I have no promises
0:32:32about being honest about how different
0:32:33it is okay that's all right so I reserve
0:32:38the right to exaggerate that's yeah
0:32:40that's fine me too that that's us the
0:32:44original preference is that strong all
0:32:47right so overall I think I think that's
0:32:51a solid pick I don't agree with it but I
0:32:53do think the egg bagel is good and I see
0:32:56I respect I respect that other choice
0:32:58Thanks what's your number one bagel you
0:33:03know everyone knows when everyone knows
0:33:05my number one bagel is the everything
0:33:06bagel you know for all the reasons you
0:33:08said about both the reason you like
0:33:11everything bagels and I should clarify
0:33:13too because you didn't quite we didn't
0:33:15quite say it yet and everything bagel
0:33:18includes the following seeds only sesame
0:33:22garlic poppy
0:33:23onion and salt that's it no caraway
0:33:27seeds no sunflower seeds no other seeds
0:33:30go on and everything bagel sesame poppy
0:33:32garlic onion salt and it has to have all
0:33:34five of those if you omit the salt
0:33:35that's a way we core bagel so the really
0:33:38install the bring all go this is this is
0:33:40new I know you are looking at me like of
0:33:42course but you know I'm trying to
0:33:43remember the George Carlin shower
0:33:45routine oh that's a rbirtle crotch and
0:33:48teeth thank you anyway
0:33:56so everything bagel has to have those
0:33:58things
0:33:58ideally there there should be seeds on
0:34:01both sides and the the the whatever the
0:34:04bottom side of the bagel is doesn't need
0:34:06to necessarily have as much seating as
0:34:09the top half but there should be some
0:34:11that have like fallen around the edges
0:34:12and maybe maybe when they were flipped
0:34:14maybe with it maybe some guy on the back
0:34:15either way there should be some on both
0:34:17sides so that when you if you slice the
0:34:19bagel in the traditional way one side
0:34:22isn't just totally blank right so you
0:34:24can insert you can have it open face
0:34:25without exact lain bagel exactly exactly
0:34:29that's burnt exactly so that that is the
0:34:33parameters with which I'm defining
0:34:35everything bagels that being said one of
0:34:37the reasons they're my number one is
0:34:39because of their incredible versatility
0:34:40you can get an everything bagel at a
0:34:44place where the bagels aren't that great
0:34:45and it's still pretty good any kind of
0:34:48like diner or restaurant anything in
0:34:50most of the country even if they offer
0:34:52an everything bagel as an option to put
0:34:54a sandwich on her as an option to have
0:34:55toasted we know with butter or something
0:34:57it's actually pretty passable most
0:34:59places I forgot about the egg sandwich
0:35:01right situation yeah everything's best
0:35:04for egg sandwiches yeah so to me and
0:35:06everything bagel is kind of the
0:35:08universal bagel in that you can have it
0:35:10everything you said about the egg bagel
0:35:12I think about the everything bagel where
0:35:13I think it works in every circumstance
0:35:16whether you're toasting it with butter I
0:35:17don't think it's too much oh I don't
0:35:18like a test day with butter so it is it
0:35:20is strong but I don't think it's too
0:35:21much of whether you're toasting with
0:35:22butter whether you're putting cream
0:35:24cheese on it and I would say almost
0:35:25strawberry cream cheese on an everything
0:35:27bagel I don't like sweet cream cheeses
0:35:31so it may be maybe for me that doesn't
0:35:33matter but you know for me every other
0:35:35kind of flavor whether your hat whether
0:35:37it's
0:35:37plain cream cheese or one of the
0:35:39vegetable ones scallion anything like
0:35:41that to me everything bagels carry
0:35:44everything sandwiches
0:35:46cream cheese butter toasted or not
0:35:48toasted they are the universal bagel to
0:35:51me where they make all those things good
0:35:54not just not just decent but they make
0:35:56all of them like great and the flavor I
0:35:58just love the that flavor combo of the
0:36:00of those five seeds well for C its plus
0:36:03salt well two seats plus two or
0:36:05anybody's matter the five things that go
0:36:08on top of an everything baby to me that
0:36:11there's it's very hard for me to go into
0:36:14a bailer shop and order anything else
0:36:16when that's an option you know I mean
0:36:18and if I'm getting a toast with butter
0:36:19it's it's easier for me to get something
0:36:22else I guess but like if I'm if I'm in a
0:36:23sandwich no contest if I'm in a bagel
0:36:25sandwich for a bailer shop chicken salad
0:36:27or meat or any you know we're like you
0:36:29know turkey deli meat any of those
0:36:31things eggs I'm putting all those on an
0:36:33everything bagel if they're available as
0:36:35long as they're not like totally old and
0:36:36rock-hard which fortunately they hardly
0:36:38ever are because they're so popular that
0:36:40they're always baking them throughout
0:36:42the day chances are everything bagels
0:36:44your bigger risk wanting everything
0:36:46bagel is that they'll be out of them
0:36:48now that they'll be old once Dale would
0:36:49you bring it on a plane no you would not
0:36:53you would bring an egg baby on a plane
0:36:54on a plane I would opt for a different
0:36:56choice you're right just saying you're
0:36:58right one step more universal to egg
0:37:00bagel well so big baby bagel to your mom
0:37:03who learns to eggs no so no well that's
0:37:06a different story
0:37:07well say okay if you're gonna if you
0:37:09want the true universal bagel without
0:37:11regard to how much you love it it's the
0:37:13plain bagel because the plane bail
0:37:15couldn't really go everywhere but you
0:37:17know the plain bagel can't be given to
0:37:19people that are allergic to wheat
0:37:20neither can any of the bails the egg is
0:37:24not going to help you there they don't
0:37:25replace the flour with ace there's no
0:37:30gluten free bagel I'm sure somebody has
0:37:33made that somewhere that I label like
0:37:36clay please don't make it illegal ah
0:37:39it's bad enough that we made flat bagels
0:37:42and then people call them that stupid
0:37:43combo word flagel don't the words like I
0:37:45can't sit I just can't can we talk about
0:37:48weirdo bagels bialys the new crazy
0:37:51rainbow bagel I mean come on go home
0:37:53Bethel you're drunk like that's insane
0:37:54that's crazy yeah I like I like a bialy
0:37:56and again toasted with butter to me the
0:37:58alleys are amazing especially what is
0:38:00that in the middle onion it's kind of no
0:38:03it's I think it's all onion and I think
0:38:04I think the dough is even an onion IDO
0:38:06it's like dough a little bit doughy in
0:38:07the middle I don't know bialys are
0:38:09really good and we always have a strange
0:38:11property for us that that our favorite
0:38:14bialys are just from our grocery store
0:38:18bakery like thank you stop and shop yeah
0:38:21like I don't know if stop and shop has
0:38:23particularly amazing bakers and like
0:38:26their bagels and their roles and
0:38:27everything are all mediocre at best but
0:38:29they're beyond these are really good
0:38:30yeah and those rainbow bagels I mean
0:38:33come on people don't you know you're
0:38:34just eating like a gallon of food die
0:38:36like yeah and it's just bagels it's a
0:38:39plain bagel like swirled with they dial
0:38:42the dough and then they swirl it all
0:38:44together and then they bake it I'm like
0:38:46people are around the lot like around
0:38:48the block and Lions waiting for these
0:38:50rainbow bagels with like yeah with with
0:38:53cream cheese that's pretty much full of
0:38:55sprinkles like with more dye like this
0:38:58is that's just so weird your people
0:39:00colors don't have flavors like they
0:39:01don't taste like anything just get off
0:39:05the line and go get an egg bagel
0:39:07I'd go everything hi everyone the
0:39:14morning after we recorded as we
0:39:15threatened do during the show we
0:39:17performed a blind taste test to see if
0:39:19TIFF could reliably distinguish between
0:39:20plain and egg bagels here's how that
0:39:22went
0:39:23first I gave her a piece of an egg bagel
0:39:26this is not egg I mean youyou can just
0:39:32take bites out of them you don't have to
0:39:34actually eat them
0:39:38next a plain bagel I think that one was
0:39:41egg next another plain bagel let me see
0:39:46that one see it let me taste the other
0:39:49one what do you think this is a gig or
0:39:51not I'm thinking not and it tastes bland
0:39:55and horrible next another plain bagel
0:39:58this is egg absolutely 100% I can feel
0:40:02it in the texture so I'm really good
0:40:05let every egg you raise the next one
0:40:09Oh enjoy my egg bagel next an egg bagel
0:40:15it's also eggs finally another egg bagel
0:40:19this is not egg taste it's plain this
0:40:25alright that was the last one you ready
0:40:27to take your blindfold off and yeah I
0:40:29did mmm-hmm okay you did very poorly you
0:40:45got most of them wrong I think I have to
0:40:47go back and double-check but I'm pretty
0:40:48sure so it turns out my favourites
0:40:52you got many of them wrong how do you
0:40:55how do you feel about this so good but I
0:40:59do want more bagels there are a little
0:41:01kitchen thanks