00:00:00 ◼ ► when we last saw our heroes they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► doing all the things they normally do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► but today they do something different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► this is the Q&A episode all right so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/7">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► is still in a teepee time Friday the 4th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► of August but most of you listening are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/15">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► around the 9th of August and we did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/19">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► because as we covered last episode we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/21">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► didn't plan our vacation as well in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► episode so we had solicited had being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► the keyword solicited questions via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/30">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► Twitter are you telling our audience to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/33">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► please stop asking questions now is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► what that means well you can certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► continue to ask questions but we are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► planning another Q&A episode for at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► least a year you can ask but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► pretty much going into the ether but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► what about the S key TP segment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► we're gonna add to the show yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/50">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► would I would like to keep the questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► going oh I mean they don't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► any questions because there's like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► of them but alright the the the hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► have spoken we have a just two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► people ask a question every week all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/63">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► right fair enough so we are going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► this in quasi chronological order we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► have selected here's the thing they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/75">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► going into the spreadsheet but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/80">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► afraid if I tried to sort them that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/81">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► would like mess with the automate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► don't know like whatever yeah we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/85">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► gonna go from top to bottom in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► document I think if you can't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► document you can't say I think it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/90">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► out that adding every single tweet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/91">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► this hashtag to a giant spreadsheet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► having no way to like filter or upvote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/98">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► might not be the best tool for this job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► turns out well I am happy for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/104">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► coordinate the replacement my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► because this seems like the lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► impact way to me I agree with you it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► not ideal but it's the lowest impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► version I got are we supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/116">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► using things like reddit is that a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► are we supposed yeah that is what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/119">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► that's question number one answered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► okay well that said I if anyone if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► anyone on the show off the show wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► make replacement that's better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► spreadsheet I won Dorsett it would be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► we probably should have some way to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► AB voter down vote and some way for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► one of the admins which would be us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► say like I read this question work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► not gonna answer so just get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► kill it yeah but like I'm like read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► I'm not sure this needs to be publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/150">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► accessible whatever all right let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► it okay so the show notes for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► episode may or may not exist we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► what happened but because it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► just a bunch of questions and answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/163">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► and so I'm just gonna try to MC this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/164">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► questions etc and we're gonna dig in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/169">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► with Gulick who asks hey why no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► toaster reviews John the toaster reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► were a sponsorship believe it or not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► know you don't remember that but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► they weren't just like hey you want your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/183">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► toasters it actually adds four cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► against humanity' but instead of an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► read they wanted me to do toaster views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/188">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► quote-unquote advertising on this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► anymore don't have any other campaigns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► so that's why there's no more toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/196">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► abused and if they did they wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/197">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► toasters again so you're not gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/198">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► any more toaster reviews and we have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► many people suggest new things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► could have a series of reviews for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► honestly none of them sounded as funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► as that like that was such a great thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► it had a wonderful progression it ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► I don't think it could have continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► indefinitely I think it was pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/219">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► done when it ended and every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► suggestion we've seen since then has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/222">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► anything more than that and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► probably won't happen it least in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► format and those suggestions weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► from sponsors right that sponsorship is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► the key part of this endured like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/235">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► middle of a tech podcast let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/239">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► about toasters for five minutes unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► it was a sponsorship behind it yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► funniest things about that was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► know cards against humanity' and I'm we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► later came to learn that the person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► was organizing all this there was Alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► Cox now of due by Friday Fame so and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/253">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► no they weren't just sending random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/259">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► progression like getting like from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► normal ones slowly into the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► bizarre and crazy horrible things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► those big like breakfast stations I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► could make the egg on top and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/272">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► wonderful progression that it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► just so well done and you got to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► cards against humanity' credit for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► incredible run yeah completely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/283">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► with you Cathy wise writes in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/286">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► cameras are you using now and so I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► begin I am using the same camera that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► got shortly before Declan was born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► that's an olympus om-d am 10 which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/297">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► truly terrible name it is a Micro Four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/301">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► Thirds camera I have a prime lens for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► that is what I use generally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/305">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► episode which in a teepee time happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► about 15 minutes ago um I also have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► zoom lens which I actually quite liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► and I was going to argue with you mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► oh when you were saying oh you can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/318">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► a zoom lens that you know covers all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► three parts of the triangle if you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/321">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► mention well you know if you do have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/326">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► probably has some other concessions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► that is the case for me the zoom lens I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► have was like eight hundred dollars or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► something like that and otherwise it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► very nice it's left 2.8 I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► hundred to three hundred millimeters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► regular cameras I forget what it is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► Micro Four Thirds but um but anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► expensive Marco what are you using I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/353">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► mostly using my iPhone which really sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► but that is the reality of it we do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► the 5d Mark for now in our family like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/363">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► we actually had we had for years ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► since they came out we had the 5d mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► ii which came out I think in 2007 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► 2008 something like that and it was late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/374">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► 2008 and so we had that since then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► it was great but it was getting along on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/381">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► the tooth and in a lot of different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/382">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► I had a a Sony phase and because the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► Sony a series of cameras first I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► I had the a7 r2 and those are awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► cameras in a lot of ways but I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► I'll make it brief because we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► about this before I have found that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/401">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► handling and battery life of full-sized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► SL ARS to the little Sony mirrorless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► cameras and I think over time that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► probably eventually change back as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► little Sony's get better you know the a9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► has it has now come out and it solves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► some of the problems I had it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► certain things worse so maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► there will be an a7 r3 at some point or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► an a9 mark 2 or something like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► I might go back for but for now I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► happy and in the world of big Canon SLRs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/434">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► when I need to fit fancy photos but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► take fancy photos less and less every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► year my wife takes them much more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/442">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► so most of like the the good pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► our family and stuff are taken by her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► and so that kind of frees me up to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► mostly the casual stuff so that's I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► shooting mostly on my iPhone if I shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► anything at all I'm still using my sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► a6300 i thought of trading into for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► 6,500 those right up until I saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/467">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► the battery life was slightly worse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► I really much did it for me because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/471">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► battery life in 6300 is just barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► enough like I have two batteries and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► vacation I never needed to swap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► batteries even a day at the ocean but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► come close and so I don't think that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► give up that whatever 10% battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► and the 600 is more expensive and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► I've never I've never done this swap I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/488">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► stopped looking at it I'm still you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► I was still recommending 6,500 or with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► the 6300 as long as you can deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► the battery life but be sure that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► can because that's that's a big quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/497">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► of life issue so I'm happy with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► the only new lens I got recently was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► that is that big zoom I forget which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/503">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► it is but it's one of the sony ones it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► not it's not a very good line it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/507">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► whatever it's what is it 55 to 300 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► it's a pretty big range again adjusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► for what that is on a PC sensor it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► numbers still like my 50 millimeter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/519">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► sixteen to seventy and there's over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► thousand dollars and that is my sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► general purpose lens that I keep on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► thing it's not as good as fifty Prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► and it doesn't zoom as long as the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► all-arounder and to get a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► okay all around or a thousand bucks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► yeah indeed also from kathy wise did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/542">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► last show which was actually two shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► ago if I'm doing this mental math right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/548">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► nope not only did not shame me into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/553">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► cleaning out my application folder but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/557">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► realized after we finished that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► applications I also have a tilde slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► applications with way more things way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► more things that's like an old an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► school next early Mac OS ten or a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► of having an applications folder in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► home directory which you could totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► have and the OS knows about it and gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► it the little a icon but only weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► people do that all right moving on uh-oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/579">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► plez asks which ad blocker do you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► did actually Marco choose it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► guys which ad blocker did Marco choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► I'm kind of you know I'm I I was for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/592">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► long time so as soon as I killed peace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► within I think a month or two I stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► using it too and you kind of just to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► fair and kind of felt wrong for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► use it and no one else did I switched to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► one blocker back then and one blocker is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/607">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► it's I don't have really much bad to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► about it or much great to say about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► it's just if you're gonna go with one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► those mass-market blockers one blocker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► at the time I I looked was the best one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► I have noticed though over time more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► more sites are broken by it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/625">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► there was a there was one of the iOS 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► betas where it was not working due to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► some limits that had changed so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► looking and I started using better which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► is better why it's a paid app and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► it's like five bucks they have a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► version and the iOS version which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► nice and the Mac version can't keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/645">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► itself up to date which is nice it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► little like menu bar extra thing and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► I've been trying better out it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► seem to block as much stuff as one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► blocker but it also doesn't break as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► many sites and it seems to block enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► that works for me and it seems to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► regular updates so right now I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► better but I've only been using it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► maybe a few weeks at most so it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/665">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► definitely go buy this but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► looking to buy something right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► that's the one I would start with John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► any thoughts I also use one blocker for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► the record but John any thoughts I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► also using one blocker but occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/680">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► I don't know sometimes it gets turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► off and I don't notice for a while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► don't have a good blocker situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► going on I'm you know and half the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► when things don't work I do a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► long hold down on the reload to reload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► with that blocker some I think some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► sites get me more obnoxious one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► Boston Globe is like you're running an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► ad blocker or I don't like you whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► and it's like alright well fine I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► learn not to even tap those links and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► some site I think it's like the Atlantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► or something like that is like sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► something is wrong and we can't serve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► you ads and so I reload without content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► blockers and it says the same thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► what do you want me to do things like or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► like you're running an income unit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► I'm not I'm not an income UNAM oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► just on my phone and I want to read your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► website and I turn everything off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► you still and the worst thing is it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► it with like a sheet that goes down over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► the actual article you just want to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► right click and spend complete node on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► your phone it's like this is Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► occasionally goes off on his little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/738">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► constrained by iOS I have that in small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► degrees too and it's basically whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► I do anything on a webpage and I realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/746">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► I don't have access to my web developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► tools and I feel just just completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► crippled it's like it's just a stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► web it's just a just freaking did let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► delete it like it's nice just saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► articles right there so here's what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/756">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► I this is what I literally do to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► out if I want to actually read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/759">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► article I do a long press to read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► something sensible sometimes it's not or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► repeatedly revisit the page and tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► read the headline before the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/769">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► thing slides down I'm like I get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► know three words and oh it slid down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/772">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► then every though three words and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► to find out is this a story that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► to bother going to a quote unquote real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► web browser and you know looking at or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/779">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► whatever anyway websites are annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► you guys try way too hard to really if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► if a site makes it difficult for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► read an article I just close it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► move on because like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► no matter how good of a writer you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► or no matter how great of journalists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► you are or whatever else there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► of things to read out there on the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/800">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► and if you're gonna make it hard for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► to read yours I'm just not going to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► it and that might be like if if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► a site with like an anti ad blocker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► blocker thing if you won't let me read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► the site with an ad blocker that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/813">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► fair game I I respect that decision of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► yours but that means I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/816">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► trim off my blocker I'm just not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/819">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► to read it like that's but if that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► option you presented then fine that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► what I'm saying like I'm I'm willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► like oh you have an ad bugger like fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► I will turn off my ad blocker I'll turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► it off I'll be likely reload without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► content blockers Here I am I'm ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► see your thing it's not being that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/834">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► paywall not like they want me to sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► subscribe or pay money like there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► the site is just broken is what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/839">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► saying this is a pretty well on site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/840">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► maybe it's the Atlantic or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► like I'm doing everything you want me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► do turn off all my blockers turn them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► off in settings not be an incognito mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► there's no pay wall you're not asking me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► to sign up or subscribe you just every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► time I try to load it's like sorry I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► couldn't figure out something and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► gonna put a big slide a big animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/858">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► sheet down over the article that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► perfectly good bit on there's no reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► mode for people asking there's no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► know websites man like do you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/863">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► platform we are sponsored this week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/868">TS</a>]
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00:14:38 ◼ ► home tryouts today at Warby Parker comm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► slash ATP Warby Parker believes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/880">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► should not cost as much as a phone they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/884">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► sunglasses starting at just 95 dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► including the lenses they make buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► glasses online easy and risk-free with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► their home Tryon program this allows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► to order five pairs of frames and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► get to try them on for five days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► there's no obligation to buy it ships to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► you for free and it includes a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► prepaid return label and all you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► do is pick out what you want and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► send you this box a home try ons you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► can't rhyme you can show people in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► life you can look in the mirror you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► take pictures whatever you want to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/917">TS</a>]
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00:15:20 ◼ ► no obligation you don't have to buy any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► of them but I bet you will because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/922">TS</a>]
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00:15:25 ◼ ► wife has a bunch of these and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► are just wonderful and they come with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/927">TS</a>]
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00:15:33 ◼ ► buy a pairs distributed through robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/933">TS</a>]
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00:16:03 ◼ ► into a video you can share it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► friends to help you pick a winner even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/964">TS</a>]
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00:16:10 ◼ ► preview how they're gonna look on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/970">TS</a>]
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00:16:47 ◼ ► thank you very much to Warby Parker for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► sponsoring our show alright Jack Johnson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► yes from New York City apparently has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► two questions that are related do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► think it would be a good move for iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► to offer a higher resolution audio file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► for download or streaming and then kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► of tangentially related do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► part of the HEV C strategy is to set the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► groundwork for 4k streaming I will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► that I don't think anyone really cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► except Marco about high resolution audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► coming out of iTunes and I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► even care about that I'm surprised so as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► for all my like audio file nests when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► comes to like selecting headphones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► stuff I have never been swayed by like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► higher than CD quality audio files or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► lossless compression schemes I know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► think they can hear a difference I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► think you can but I know for sure that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► can't I hold on though hold on how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► you download your Phish concerts mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► they offer flack option I am stunned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► that's what I assumed you were gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► no they offer flack for a few more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► dollars and there is so I have bought so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► quick quick background here fish sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► all their live shows legally through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► their own site like a few hours after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► the show's end and you can buy a season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► pass and you can you can basically have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► have downloads and for sure they do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► like a whole tour so I do this I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► doing this since something like 2009 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► so and there was one tour early on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► I bought in flack i pre-ordered it oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► gosh let me get the flag verge and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► see if it's something different and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► was such a pain because like first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► all iTunes didn't support flack at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► time I think I think it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► finally having that in High Sierra I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► think but it didn't the time and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► I had all these massive files that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► of all I didn't want to ever delete them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► because like when I paid for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► massive files so there's taking up ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► spacing the harder that I still had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► transcode them to make them actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► playable in anything I did play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► original ones or there was C I think I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► think one one time I transferred them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► a lack or maybe I'd download maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► sold them as a lack I forget so I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► for a group of them transfer them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► play them as lossless files as a lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► files in iTunes and I just I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► tell the difference at all and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► there's lots of again there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► people who claim they can hit they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► hear a difference there's a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► tests that have been done that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► shown mostly otherwise but this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► subwoofer thing from last episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► like I do things my way and some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► consider them insufficient or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► people want better things and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► I'm just I don't I can't care anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► like if you want to do things your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► way if you want to get massive files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► with you know 24 96 or 24:1 need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► sample rates and if you want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► lossless encoding and you want your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► albums to take up a gig each fine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► hard drive space is cheap do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► you want well I could not possibly agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► with you more but I was expecting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► snicker as you told me about how flack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► is the only answer so kudos to you sir I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► am stunned do you want audio that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► lower quality and has like hiss and pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► here we go something for Casey like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► don't I think it's not the right move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► for Apple to offer hi Rosa no audio but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► if Apple ever gets to the point I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► think they will because again streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► is what everyone cares about now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► Marco pointed out earlier slash on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► last show but it would be a way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► the Ferrari you have purchasable down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► little music hey can we charge more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► money for something that people perceive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► as better the answer is yes you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► so lossless or a higher bitrate or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► combination thereof and the very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► number of people who think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► worthwhile for them will buy it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► really matter if anyone can you hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► difference only matters whether they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► give you money in exchange for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► goods which are able to be produced so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► wouldn't totally rule it out I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► think it's some Apple needs to do at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► but someday if buying music at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► downloadable continues to be a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► some smart person in marketing may say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► we're leaving money on the table by not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► selling high-resolution audio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► they'll just do it and charge more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► for it and a couple people will buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► and it'll be a tiny bump in a graph and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► someone will get a good performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► review yeah but anyway the thing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► there is demand for this there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► absolutely demand for higher than CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► quality sample rates and everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► format or more advanced formats or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► lossless formats there is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► demand for that like most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► even know like people who listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► show probably unaware quite how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► options there are for what basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► amount to fancy iPods that sell today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► for like $400 or more that like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► like their the Sony makes a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► them they're basically little you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► pocketable portable audio players the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► you know size like a deck of cards like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► that kind of size class that have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► headphone just like the old iPod Classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► that play these super high bitrate files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► like they could actually output them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► this market exists people buy these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► things for like $400 but not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► people and there are streaming services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► things like Neil Young's paano things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► like even tidal which is a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► decently sized streaming service now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► like streaming services that IV that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► have either been or even music sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► service I don't think paano even was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► streaming I think it only sold stuff if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► it even still exists but anyway there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► are services that we've Excel you high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► bitrate music legally or that will let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► you stream them like tidal and they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► these things as they use the quality as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► their main selling point but they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► really ever become mass-market they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► don't really ever get anywhere off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► ground really the only reason title has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► gotten anywhere is because it has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► exclusives like they've had exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► album releases on there other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► they were like when they were when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► were really only about the music quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► they got nowhere the fact is most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► don't care and most people don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► care because for most of these gains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► difference to most people so while Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► could sell high bitrate songs and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► that would just be appealing to a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► very small market in what is already a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► declining market which is the market of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► music sales so the second part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► about HEV C being part of 4k yep 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► like the 4k video is bigger HEV see is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► higher efficiency codec it supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► higher resolutions for like for video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► not just the images with the he thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► anyway yes it's 100% part of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► that's why we're gonna see a 4k Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► and a TVC encoded content that plays on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► Adam sac writes in to say and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► the first in theme that I noticed which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► was try to get the ATP host to hate each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► other so he writes in if you had to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► the daily text setup of one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► co-hosts for a week instead of your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► whose devices would you choose and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► will start off and I would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► choose Marcos because it is in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► obviously there are differences but most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► similar to mine and he has some pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► kick-ass headphones so win-win everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► Margot's including Marco because Marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► non-retina sorry John you lose you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► shoulda picked my wife's you could pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► the 5k iMac it's the one without image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► retention yeah that's actually better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► Ian Marin rates in to say and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► think I selected this as one to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► but I have a feeling I know who did Ivan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► Inouye to cord when's the ideal time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► replace it it's at about eighty thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► miles no maintenance issues to date John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► did you perhaps star this as a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► to me I did so the right time probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► the best time to replace this Accord was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► right now or last year because the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► best time to get an accord is at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► tail end of a generation when they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► worked all the kinks out of it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► have we always get like the special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► edition even though you don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► special edition like they know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► build that generation of car has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► most doodads and and you know nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► things added to it and they figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► low and the first model to put the USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► port in the wrong place or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► fiddle things like that's the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► get it the the first car versed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► new Accord I think the new Accord is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► uglier than the old one but it does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► a better infotainment system so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► the other time you can get us like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► excitement of getting in on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► car and in your generation but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► general when your court starts getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► to be around 10 years old I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► that's the time to if you want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► any chance of having any reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► trade in on it or private sale whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► you want to do with it don't wait until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► the car is basically worthless or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► worth like a couple hundred bucks wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► till it's you know it's still a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► thousand dollars for the value in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► car it's before crap starts breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► like you said you know is 80,000 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► nothing as nothing as issued with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► it's a no wait right it's getting to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► around 10 years time to replace you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► just as a point of comparison I pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► much agree with you but uh when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► bought the Volvo we traded in Aaron's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► six which had a little bit shy of 80,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► miles on it and as I believe I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► about on the show was pretty much a tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► like that thing almost never had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► problems and we got three thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► Carmack's offered us three grand so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► was not worthless by any means but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► agree with you John that this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► kind of edge of the cliff I think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► you go too much further and you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► good talk Joe Sullivan writes in is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► there anything that siracusa is in favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► reservations or asterisks and I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► I have to congratulate Joe Sullivan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► because there are about a million ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► to ask this question like a big fat jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► and this was not one of them so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► done that's a great question put too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► many things at the end of this question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► caveat reservations or asterisks well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► caveat you can I know what that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► reservations mean it's all getting over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► they asterisk me like Oh something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► in addition that you want to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► like the answer question there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► nothing nothing so perfect come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► that's right things that I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► but if press to say hey you really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► anything wrong with that movie well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► mean cause it's actually probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► closest like I can if pressed I can come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► up with asterisks for Kiki's Delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► Service sure of course you can right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► there is nothing is gonna be absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► perfect if you can't if you literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► can't think of anything wrong with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► then you probably don't understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► thing but that doesn't mean like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► are my favorite things in the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► world like overwhelmingly everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► feel about these is that they're great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► right so I think that qualifies them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► I at that reasonable definition of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► there anything that you are like without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► any caveats reservation like if someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► says hey you know I need a good movie to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► watch and I say well if you've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► seen the Empire Strikes Back watch watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► oh but also here are some reservations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► about the Empire Strikes Back I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► add no reservations there's no nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► to say about it so I would say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► qualifies the only definitions are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► pedantic one and which nothing qualifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► for anybody or the reasonable definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► kinds of things that I really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► hear me things that really like listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► to being comfortable very very often on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► that show are talking about things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► really like you know for the video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► journey television shows movies books we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► do we do talk about asterisks if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► want to call it that but it doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► we don't love them so I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► question is not a good question it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► more than faster more than a reservation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► because the answer it got completing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► about the question I remember that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► true of anybody like is there anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► even ask you that you chose it is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► anything you two like uncritically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► asterisks I think if you're honest with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► yourselves you have to say that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► true for either of you either I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► think the checker muffin up a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► good options your kids your wife your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► those are BS questions so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► reservations about your wife and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► kids don't say you do ice cream you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► you are if you think your spouse does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► not have any asterisks you are either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► newly married or willfully naive because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► everybody has asterisks everybody say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► yeah but they're always asked sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► like the tiniest little thing and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► was like could something be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► different of course of course always I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► don't even know where to go from here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► like and especially kids like no my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► child is perfect yes lots of parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► think that hmm maybe a little bit less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► screaming like not you know like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► three seconds less screaming in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► lifetime of screaming would you accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► that yes maybe if that poo hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► exploded out the side of the diaper that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► one time when I had a new car would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► always an asterisk so now you don't love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► your children because you didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► the putu come out the side of the diaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► and go all over your new car seats oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► we gotta move on otherwise we're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► going to get rid get through this let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► freaking tabs open I must be John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► siracusa Eduard level writes in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► podcast you currently listened to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► would recommend I listen to a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► podcast but there's a couple that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► would recommend the aforementioned due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1854">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► my or a couple of my co-host shows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► think that reconcilable differences is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► phenomenal and so is under the radar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► I will also pitch a couple others very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► quickly if you wanted to hear a smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► person talk about conservative politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► which you may or may not want the pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► the ben shapiro show is very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► and very good i don't listen every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► episode by any means it's like 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► minutes and it's pretty much every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► weekday but when i have time all and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► usually about once a week I'll catch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► and I typically deeply deeply disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► nevertheless it is interesting I'll also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► say that wheel bearings is neutral by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► people who actually know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► talking about we want to listen to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► and then 20,000 Hertz is also very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► think 99% invisible but specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► around sound so those are just some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► selections from my extraordinarily long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► list of podcasts that I listened to John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► since I've been tagging Marco more first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► more often let's let's go to you next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► I'm strong recommendation for Roderick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► on the line which I love flophouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► obviously my my old probably oldest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► recommendation that show is still going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► obviously hello internet in cortex the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► pair of shows both involving CGP grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► Oh what else we got I'm scrum scrolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► through overcast to look at I have way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► scrolling through their debug which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► don't know if it's still ongoing but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► back catalog of debug is great tech show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► where they talk to lots of important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► people in tech you should definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► check that out and you know there's tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► more but I think it's a good place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► get started Marco you guys have already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► mentioned pretty much everything I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► going to say you know the usuals due by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► Friday hello Internet cortex roderick on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► the line as far as in the tech world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► again you've covered many good ones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► would also add upgrade unreal AFM with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► Jason snow my curly that is probably my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► favorite tech show it's it's just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► he does pretty much covered it yeah none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► in API you know and and what I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► about I mean I could talk about podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► so I'll try not to but what I love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► this is that none of us mentioned shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► that were like the biggest podcast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► the world Mendon MPI probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► biggest one we mentioned but when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► think podcasting they so often will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► an assumption like everybody listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► this American life where it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► stuff like that but the fact is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► everybody listens to and there and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► the the the world of mass market or very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► very popular podcasts is still actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► fairly diversified and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► people who listen to a lot of podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► who don't listen to any of those big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► ones so this is it's part of what I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► incredibly diverse and specialized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► like I can look at so many podcasts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► there and there there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► amazing podcasts out there but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► need to spend any time listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► interesting to me and that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► specialized to my interests because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► there's so much that is and that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► a part of what I love about podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► and and you know my over cast list is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► huge I subscribed tons of things I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► trying to give recommendations that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► maybe people might not go for like up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► you know I didn't recommend the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► show cuz I assume you know that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► exists that it's good and you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► totally listen to it like it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► recommend this American life cuz I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► you know that show exists and it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► and you should listen to it right trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► to find these slightly more obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► corners but that's the other thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► like about podcasts I subscribe to way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► more podcasts than I then I faithfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► descriptions a few shows I keep up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► very religiously but a lot of shows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► episodes at a time and a lot of shows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► just pick and choose from that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► best thing not only do you not have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► like oh there's only five podcasts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► everyone listens to if you find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► sometimes you find a podcast and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► only have to listen to the episodes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► you really like like even like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► comparable like if they do an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► reviewing something you don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► standalone but they're you know they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► a thing about TV show that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► watch you're not interested in fine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► just pick and choose that's the beauty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► of podcasting visuals in every episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► of our show obviously oh yeah of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► regular language writes in what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► think about the current state of Swift I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► would like to hear what John and Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► have to say about si I guess Casey a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► rant about Swift opens oh I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► basically what do you guys think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► maybe me talk about Swift open source so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► I will I guess round this out at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► so let's start with Marco and then go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► John honestly I don't pay that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► attention to what's going on in Swift I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► know I'm supposed to I know I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► overcast contains some Swift code that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► added you know to try cheaper stuff the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► language and and stuff but I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► writing most couldn't you have to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► and it's it's not really out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► judgment of Swift so much as it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► pragmatism that I I still don't see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► lot of motivation for you to switch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► practice don't John I would never picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► it seems like it's chugging along I I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► keep up with the things that are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► on and it it's it still got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► challenges but it's making slow steady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► progress so I think Swift is moving in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► the right direction at varying speeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► and we have to say about si no no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► that's not see the language I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► basically the question was what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► guys have to say about Swift and what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► I have to say specifically about Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► open-source so yeah I think your summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► of Swift is good and in brief and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► Swift open source is a double-edged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► sword I think I think that the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► that I have aspect of Swift open source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► is that it seems like a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► really really really academic like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► trying to think of a way to say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► without being pejorative but people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► are much more interested in the academic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► side of programming languages seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► the ones that are most vocal and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► interested to participate on like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► mailing lists and things of that nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► where someone like myself which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► to say I'm like at the same caliber as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► super academic but someone like myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► who I like to think of as a reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► smart guy but I don't really have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► intricacies of what's going on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► mailing list I don't really have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► about you know different pitches that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► have been made via the mailing list I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► just want to get crap done man and to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► I feel like swift open source it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► like from an outsider's point of view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► that maybe it could use a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► Stern direction from Apple to prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► the kind of meandering and the kind of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► don't know language features that I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► to be really really silly and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► terribly helpful for actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► shipping products and that's where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► kind of get a little frustrated but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► that's easy it's easy for me to throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► stones from outside the glass house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► right and and really if I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► effect change what I should be doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► participating on the door mailing list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► that I'm lamenting I'm not sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► should be doing that because I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► to put this out there language design is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► programmer and using that language is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► entirely appropriate that the lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► where people are designing the languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► looks weird to someone who's like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► want to write my programs like you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► the language and give it to me like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► don't need to cross that word I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► swift evolution I've seen a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► languages I'm mailing lists and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► evolution is above average believe it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► not and maybe if you look in the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► this is the first time you follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► development of any language you can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► like dominated by academics and weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► and chaotic and a lot of bike shedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► but in the grand scheme of things there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► they are above average and you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► coming so early to say look we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► have releases we're gonna exclude things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► from them and then you know like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► gonna be people discussing things enlist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► even though they say they're excluded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► from Swift serious but for like but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► general I think they're pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► behaved and I do want essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► language nerds or people like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► with the skill the language designs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► skill and you know RPG parlance or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► whatever to be designing the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► rather than having a bunch of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► just wanted to use the language throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► out the first idea that pops into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► head that I think might make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► designers like I've been programming for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► 20 years and I think a language would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► cool how many languages have you design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► have you tried doing that what does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► actually turn out to be so I like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► language design as a separate skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► being developed among people who just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► that and seeing them do their thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► I endure I also and part of why I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► not adopted Swift more is that the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► of of investing my time into a language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► that is still very much a beta is a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► turnoff for me like I I do not I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► interest in participating in the design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► of this language I have no interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► beta testing this language for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► in the same way like I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► beta test brakes on my car you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► I want to get the final brakes thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► and I want them to work and I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► to I don't want to ever have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► about them or I never wanted to flick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► out or fail or cause me undo undo work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► it sound like a test loan or you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► want a bid that's the brakes that set a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► new firmware for your brakes last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► while you were asleep like for me like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► like especially like every summer when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► during beta season when like all the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► stuff comes out and I see all the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► developers I know complaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► something that Swift broke I am very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► happy to not be very reliant on it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► and you know because the fact is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► I'm in a different developer I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► have a lot of time I like and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► time I have to spend coding I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► spend it very wisely and the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► frustrating thing for me I which is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► of many people is fighting with my tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► and so any language or part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► developer tool chain I'm going to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► minimize reasons that I would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► fight with it or the amount of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► that's going to require from me to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► and Swift while it does look like a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► know a fairly I'm sure it will be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► once it's done for me right now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► reality of using Swift is still a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► overhead and a lot of dealing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► changes as they come and dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► weird things breaking sometimes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► just want to wait till it's all settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► before I invest heavily into it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► I have zero interest in being an early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► adopter for things like this all I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► is for it to work so I can spend my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► in other ways you know I will say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► there are certainly annoyances and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► can't legitimately argue with anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► that you've said but it feels like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► gotten a lot better over the last you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► know six to 12 months say oh yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► and and the dabbling of done on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► it's like it's a beta of course but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► and large it looks really solid and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► think and of course you would say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► every year right now is the time to dive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► in Marco it's all better than it ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► was and you know it's the Year Linux on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► the desktop right it'll always be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► the next year but it is not nearly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► scary now as it once was but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► still dragons back there from time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► time and I would also love to use Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► on the server like that's that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► thing that has me very interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► learning it because like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► learning one language that I can use in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► both places is incredibly attractive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► me like that because that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► great use of you know if I'm gonna learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► frameworks being able to use the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► one in both places basically makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► twice as valuable to me so I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► but it's all just so early and it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► have basics like concurrency not worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► out yet is like I just I need well yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► and go right like it's just as worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► out as the distant objective-c because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► you still have GCD and whatnot it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► that well I'm what I'm saying server I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► mean Linux though well ok fair but it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► point is just that like concurrency I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► agree with you should be worked out any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► much better way but it's not like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► handcuffed now it's just that it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► well again maybe not on the server but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► at least on on the client it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► existing GCD API and it actually is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► lot nicer in a lot of ways but but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► should be something like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► sponsored this week by Squarespace start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► squarespace.com and enter code ATP at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► Squarespace sites are so easy to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► it's kind of a wonder why anybody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► anything else and it's kind of a one-way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► door once you discover Squarespace once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► you finally after hearing all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► podcast ads decide to finally try it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► most people don't go back to the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► ways because the old ways of hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► websites are cumbersome and just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► manual and tedious if to do things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► install software updates and worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► your site getting hacked and your server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► going down and all these things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► don't to worry about Squarespace and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► best thing about Squarespace for nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► times if you're if you're the nerd in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► your family oh and people people need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► website they will ask you to make it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► them and that's one thing you do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► want you don't want to be in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► business because Squarespace is so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► at it you can just tell them here go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► Squarespace if they won't do it set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► up for them go to Squarespace com use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► code ATP for 10% off your first purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► and set it up for them you can hand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► you can now help yourself they can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► updates themselves they can customize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► the design themselves and if they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► any help they go to Squarespace for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► support not you it's all included it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► wonderful support you can host all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► of sites on Squarespace blogs portfolios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► even stores podcasts stuff that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► little hard to host and you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► regular ways but Siqueiros has it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► built in it can do so much so check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► out today go to Squarespace com whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► it's a site for you or a site that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► someone's asking you to make for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► get yourself out of the website hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► business and let Squarespace do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► because it's easier the result is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► and then you don't have to do it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► squarespace.com make sure you use offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► code ATP to get 10% off your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► Squarespace make your next move David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► Klein writes about two years ago you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► discuss women in tech and podcasting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► even exchange hosts how do you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► today regarding women in tech this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► very good question which stresses me out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► because I feel like I'm gonna step on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► some landmine here but that being said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► feel like we have made sweet not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► three of us like we as a as a community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► have made a fair bit of positive strides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► but still have a almost equal amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► improvement left to make and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► people are paying a lot more attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► to the fact that there's so much sexism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► in tech and it's such a crummy place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► be a woman and I think the easiest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► example of this is people like regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► knowing what a cesspool uber is slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► was and regular people deciding to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► lyft instead of uber which quick aside I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► in Chicago when Aaron and I were on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► 10-year wedding anniversary and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► worked great no different than uber and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► so I highly recommend it but anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► we still have a ton of room like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► one of those things where we have taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► like the tiniest littlest step forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► but there's still like 85,000 miles in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► front of us so it's almost imperceptible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► Marco I I basically agree I mean I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► unfortunately am NOT an expert in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► topic you know a few few men and tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► are you know there's that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► um it's it's a huge problem and we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► have so so long to go but we are talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► about it now way more than it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► talked about so even though I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► have the knowledge to know whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► actually making progress really I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► I would guess - making slow progress but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► we are talking about it and a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► people ourselves included are much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► conscientious of this being an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► than we used to be and that has to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► - and there's obviously a lot more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► we can all do and that we need to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► do but I do think that awareness is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► better than it was and that will slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► start helping this problem yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► like the first stage of all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► is the very long process of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► people to be aware that this is an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► at all what's the issue what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► problem is this the thing that exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► and that takes a really long time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► kind of depressing to me because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► childhood like I felt like the whole the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► one of the previous names of a larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► version this that the women's lib [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► movement back in the 60s and 70s and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► even to the 80s was also in that stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► of like hey raise awareness like women's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► liberation what do women do need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► liberated from what do you mean right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► felt like we went through that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► then like that knowledge was lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► somehow and now here we are back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► tech sector which is a microcosm of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► larger world is like do we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► relearn that sexism exists apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► the answer is yes and we're learning it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► more thoroughly and with I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► clearer I'd picture and not accepting as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► many limitations as the previous you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► know feminist movements and women's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► liberation and all the other stuff but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► still very strongly feel that we are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► the awareness phase for everybody I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► you know for me as well like and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► see some concrete signs of progress I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► find myself seeing I mean from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► perspective a lot of what I see is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► who's speaking at this tech conference I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► see and watch and hear about and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► forwarded to me more really good talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► by women at tech conferences as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► circles I travel in and my twitter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► whatever then I did several years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► probably just progress in my awareness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► that that is a thing and also progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► in the people I follow forwarding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► those things and you know I get says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► like the fact that there can even be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► consequences to a company about hey this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► company is run by a bunch of sexist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► jerks and that actually like is a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► think we hear about and be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► anything literally anything happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► about it maybe not the right thing maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► not the best things but something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► happens like if one extra person deletes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► their app like that is a tiny bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► progress but yeah that's that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► much how I feel how it's going and about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► us specifically on the show like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► still we still talk about it we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► discuss it we still try to do what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► can in the ways that we can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► it's it's a continuing struggle yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► robin christopherson writes in which if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► any of the many rumored changes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► new iphone would actually make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► decide not to upgrade if it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► i'm gonna go on a very small rant about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► this i don't understand people who say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► and i can't think of a specific specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► example of oh actually the touch bar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► a great example i will never like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► touch bar and I will never buy a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► that has a touch bar that to me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► doesn't make sense because it stands to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► reason that at least for portable Mac's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► the touch bar is going to be the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► probably across the line it may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► for five years or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► but it will probably be the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► even if the touch bar if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► that's a crummy example it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► just get on the bus the bus is pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► away get on the bus and you may not love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► it but get on the bus because what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► alternative go to Windows ha have fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► there may be something that I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► about the new iPhones so for the sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► example I'm skeptical that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► terribly enjoy the face on lock and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► would you know and I suspect I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► certainly give it a shot and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► certainly give it a shot and if it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► up that I like touch ID better well then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► that's a stinky part of the new iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► but everything else will be amazing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► it'll all even itself out so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► really understand the question but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► don't really understand this question do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► you think the narrower view they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► asking would make you not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► upgrade and when I saw this question I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► thought about like touch ID on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► if they couldn't if they can't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► touch ADEA under the screen for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► generation but we know for a fact those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► other phones do this that fingerprint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► sensing under screen is a technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► that exists it just you know wasn't up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► to Apple's caliber yet for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► reason I might say if I was if it was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► upgrade year which isn't by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► might say oh I'm not gonna upgrade to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► see this phone I'll wait till next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► when hopefully they'll have that sorted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► generation please you know I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► problem waiting oh it's not like Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► was saying like oh I'm never gonna buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► with touch bar like obviously eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► you're gonna have to get a new phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► eventually I would choose to get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► iPhone but specifically like oh if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► make a new form factor and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► first male year and they had to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► weird compromises and such ideas in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► back even if it's just as simple as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► they put touch ID in the back but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► never used touch ID in the back I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► sure I like it I rather let a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► my friends who I know really well buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► this phone and tell me about it so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► next year I'll know whether I think I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► like it or like just play with them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► store whatever so yes there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► weird things involving the phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► would make me decide not to upgrade but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► I don't think there's many things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► would make me decide I'm never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► buy an iPhone again and that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► yeah I mean I I think pretty similarly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► mean look we all know I'm gonna buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► regardless so why why even bother I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► you know III think the answer is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► know I'm gonna do what I always do which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► is I'm going to buy the new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► immediately and then I complained or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► anything that's worse about it fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► enough that's typically how these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► tend to go I did not want to answer this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► question because this is another example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► but somebody and I think that person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► name might be John siracusa has decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► we should answer this question so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► stephen sand off writes tabs or spaces I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► honestly don't even have the faintest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► whatever the default for X code is don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► care your monster don't even know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► actually I can say the same thing so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► know what it is in text made but for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► iOS code or next code I actually have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► idea which one it is but I will say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► text made it's spaces but I this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► kind of like I'd feel about this a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► weeks ago like it doesn't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► because good tools let you switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► between one or the other with like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► command so it's it's it really doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► matter at all no no no that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► a tab user would say it totally matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► so let me tell you why so first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► I'm my ants aren't abs versus spaces is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► spaces and the reason I say space is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► visually everywhere but the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► in tabs I thought is that you I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► choose to have my tabs be a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► right okay yep so now tabs now it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► okay well tabs are semantic in don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► tell me how big has to be the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► formatting in most not maybe some less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► in some programming languages good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► instances in which you want to indent by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► less than one indentation level to align [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► things right and if you use spaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► everywhere there is no ambiguity and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► can make it look like how you want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► some Joker is gonna set their tab to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► and someone else is gonna have it set to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► four and someone's gonna have it set to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► eight and the part and the line where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► you use tabs but then use space to align [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► a bunch of things is gonna look crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► spaces is the correct answer but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► forced to use tabs at work and have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► many years and so if you're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► programmer you got to do what you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► do with the actual entrance spaces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► and Chris lat agrees with me so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► you go and that's all that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► matters I bet that's gonna meet what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► eventually drives you to quit your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► like eventually one day yours you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► gonna hit that tab key for the last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► and you're like that's it I'm done no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► mean you still hate you still hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► tab key even wanted to space this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► like I you I work changed both my brace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► style and the indenting character but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► this is what it means to be a working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► programmer it's too far wait what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► many years ago I used bsd-style opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► and closing on the same column mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► for basically of my entire career up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► like maybe 10 years ago and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► switched to forcibly switch to KN are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► coddled else's come on people I'm a K&R [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► person myself you know I used to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► first why I had no idea those were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► two like I I did know the names for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► those two styles but I used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► violently devoutly in favor of what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► you say BSD where all of the openings in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► Iran might be almond it's the one where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► the the opening curly is underneath the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► eye and if right right right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► that's the way I used to be just and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► was passionately about Italy almost as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► bad as I am about people who say jiff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► like I passionately believed that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► you have to put it under eye and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► monsters that sage if that also put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► the opening brace at the end of the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► or just without help and overtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► similar story I think because I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► writing a fair bit of JavaScript I ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► up kind of switching to the other style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► where you have you know if something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► opened open brace new line like it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► important part in every programmer who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► doesn't work for themselves in a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► person shop and they're in their careers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► is becoming not just multi-language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► fluent but becoming able to and you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► rework on open source projects your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► forces this to becoming able to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► code and the style demanded by the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► that you're doing whether it's a job or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► an open source project or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► can't I mean you can be Precious about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► it and have a preferred thing but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► have to be able to get the job done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► whatever language are formatting that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► dictated by the mob you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► you know in the end like I was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► pretty strongly about opening curly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► under the little eye and I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► it's the style that makes more sense but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► you know you get over it a few years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► using kar and you're like okay like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► and it's actually difficult if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► into a groove to switch back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► like if the mode switch between them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► just your fingers will you'll find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► doing the things they do and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► switch back but like that's life that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► programming for you I'm actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► reason why I use knr style is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► used to use the brace hump of the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► but like in college and like as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► teaching myself how to program and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► through college like I used that style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► and then my first job you strictly KN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► our style and they just like broke me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► that habit and then that became my style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► anyway well we can all agree tabs versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► spaces it doesn't really matter but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► right answer spaces unless you use two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► spaces in which case you're an animal I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► think I could probably get behind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► Spencer Holbrook writes in what low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► level part of Apple stack would you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► to see replaced next hfs+ day a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► Objective C to Swift OpenGL to metal etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► I think I'm most anxious and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► interested in HFS+ to a PFS and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► think of another example if top my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► I'm sure John you'll probably have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► but none of these are really rev my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► engine that much sorry John markula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► asking you what you want to see replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► next they listed a bunch of ones they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► already doing I'm so following all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► that oh yeah wish list I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3550">TS</a>]
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01:00:32 ◼ ► stopped and they'd never matured it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3632">TS</a>]
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01:00:41 ◼ ► it so that most apps could not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3641">TS</a>]
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01:06:18 ◼ ► working in the sense that your ki you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► keep selling them but are they working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► in the sense that it seems like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► pushing subscriptions to to shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► all that yeah I mean I have that info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► and I share that like the advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► when you buy an ad they see in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► little control panel on the website how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► many impressions how many tabs and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► many subscriptions it has gotten they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► don't see anything else but they see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► honestly I haven't collect anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► that's all I collect so and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► plays into how I price them like I try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► to keep the cost per new subscriber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► within a certain range the the challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► in pricing these ads is not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► people to buy them it's it's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► avoid the temptation to raise prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► like crazy because they're selling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► frequently and I it's hard for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► know like what should any listener be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► worth like what range should I keep this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► price in the way I've been pricing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► I've been keeping it between one and two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► dollars for most categories but certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► separated out business podcast into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► their own category because like it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► know I ran the numbers like what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► what is a listener to or sorry what's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► listener to a tipi worth and if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► run the numbers over the course of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► know certain time spans or like a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► or two its ends up being like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► five bucks something like that right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► so I thought if I keep the prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► between one and two dollars that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► keeps it you know pretty good pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► compelling for most people but certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► categories like like business business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► podcasts are huge first of all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► that's huge market for like business you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► know tips and tricks and writing books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► and everything and many of them monetize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► not just by ads but by selling you books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► e-books conferences seminars you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► stuff like that so they might have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► very different valuation of what a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► subscriber is worth to them and so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► and this is true of many many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► different different you know categories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► of podcasts and and some of them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► people don't care what Ana listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► worth them they just want dates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► listeners and they have a new show maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► and they want to know when I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► basically going from zero and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► use the ads for that if you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► purely as like how should I price these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► in in terms of like pure demand they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► keep selling out so I should price them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► way higher but if I price them higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► we're gonna start getting into numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► that that if you think about the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► if you run the numbers of like what is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► listener worth it starts not to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► sense for a lot of people so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► want to breach that level so basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► the answer is I think I even could make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► more money from it if I tried to but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► would be afraid if I did that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► would that I would have would have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► a brief period of making more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► as a lot of advertisers started seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► you know this actually isn't worth what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► I'm paying for these users and starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► reasonable so that I have the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► advertisers as possible but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► besides that that minor concern which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► think is largely alleviated now by just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► time and stability it's going great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► it really is going great and it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► the only advertising things I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► where basically all the parties win you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► know because I'm not showing you ads for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► Viagra of mattresses like I'm showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► you ads for podcasts in categories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► you subscribe to while you're using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► podcast app in a way that respects your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► privacy that isn't a huge burden that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► doesn't get in your way that like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► obviously is not a method that every app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► can do so it's not like I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► like every app should monetize the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► I've monetized because well you simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► can't it doesn't apply but for what I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► it's working great and I have I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► more advertisers who want to buy ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► than I have inventory to sell them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► that's wonderful that's really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► John any additional thoughts on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► all right Edgar Perez writes in and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► is the first one that I noticed in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► context but I've seen this come up a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► particularly after our one Pastore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► discussion and he writes to say I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► the $3 a month for an app service is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► reasonable but what if all the apps I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► use monthly want $3 a month can't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► apps kill the Mac I understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► people are driving out and again Edgar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► isn't the first person to say this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► subscription Apple suddenly I won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► able to afford anything anymore and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► get that but I I think in my eyes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► everything I used became a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► I would either change my usage or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► would pay for it all and I don't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► since we're now deep into the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► episode I don't remember if it was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► episode of last week we talked about ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► blockers I think it was last week which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► was really two hours ago I had talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► about ad blockers and how you know Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► you were saying well if the Nant blocker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► shows up then I'll just leave and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► won't read that content it was this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► I'm getting tired it's nearly midnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► but anyway so point being you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► think it's a similar thing so like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► me and this is just for Casey it may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► be for others but for me I absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► will pay for one password and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► absolutely pay for day one but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► your you know the the listener here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► maybe your a day one user but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► love it you just kind of like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► maybe it's not worth paying for in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► regular basis so you just stop using day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► one and use Apple notes or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► like that that's okay that's an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► like that will work in life will go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► but I don't know that's just the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► look at it John what do you think if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► had remembered back to actual last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► I address this on the 1password episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► I said look not every I did it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► perspective of an app developer not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► every app can sustain subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► pricing your app has to be valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► enough to enough people to sustain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► subscription price and so I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► there's any fear that every single app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► is going to be you know three dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► month because there are app categories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► entire categories let alone individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► apps that can't sustain it but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► don't deliver that much value to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► so you have to you have to know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► application and your marker to say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► subscribe to this people probably aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► gonna pay three dollars a month for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► far nap all right even if you have new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► parts released every month like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► they're a whole you know you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► turn you'd have to turn into like a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► gambling exploit human nature type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► service to get that and then it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► different kind of app entirely right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► I this is a fear that I don't think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► real thing if you're a customer this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► will take care of itself don't like get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► right and from a developer's perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► if you don't want to be on the losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► end of that problem taking care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► itself you should know you know if if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► can't develop this without subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► pricing make sure that it is valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► enough to enough people to justify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► subscription pricing game one password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► certainly is because a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► find it a very valuable thing and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► want it to work on an ongoing basis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► they understand the ongoing maintenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► costs and they're willing to pay for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► but you're far adapt might not be so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► would say don't worry about this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► much and if you don't want to pay for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► subscription don't pay for it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► pricing comes up people bring up this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► issue of what's gonna happen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► everything subscription and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► gets tired of it and stops paying for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► you know it's not something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► the idea of subscription fatigue and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► subscription prices now for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► while and there's that's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► happening like I have not seen any sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► that that's happening I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► one of those things that the market just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► sorts out itself you know like John said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► like most apps aren't willing to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► sorry most customers aren't willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► pay for most of their apps but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► they wouldn't be buying a $36 a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► upgrade either instead of paying $3 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► month like the fact is most apps have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► lot of competition and aren't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► necessary for most people so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► gonna have a hard time matter how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► charge but the apps that are that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► really valuable to people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► difficult for people to go without or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► they're required for them to do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► work or whatever else or that appeal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► markets that don't care about spending 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► dollars a month they can do this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► fine I don't think the whole like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► slippery slope argument is like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► what's all the apps go this way no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► gonna want to pay any more I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► think it's happening like I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► wouldn't we would have seen that by now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► starting and it's just not most apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► not even trying to charge subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► rates and the ones that are mostly do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► dude done writes in is it technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► possible for Apple to make second gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► noise-isolating I really really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► that I don't see why not I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► problem with that is it's even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► processing to be done thus even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► battery usage but I mean at this point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► don't know that it would be a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► difference and certainly noise-isolating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► I mean they could change the look of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► what of these things and change where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► they sit within your ear but I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► any reason why I wouldn't work Marco I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► mean you basically got I mean the noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► cancellation requires a microphone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► the outside and then DSP on the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► to basically emit sound waves on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► inside but in you know mixed into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► that will cancel out by phase of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► wave that will cancel out the waves of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► the ones coming in from the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► world so there's nothing stopping them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► from doing that as far as I know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► harbor they have now or you know in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► style of hardware they have now rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► but that wouldn't be very useful without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► better isolation and isolation is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► now where they really fall down you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► and that doesn't require any circuitry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► basically of you know literally just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► isolating you from the world around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► and to do that you know right now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► are ear buds and bloody ear buds are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► little drivers that sit kind of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► inside your ears but there are more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► resting in a little Kirby spot in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► ear they're not really blocking your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► canal at all there are other types like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► canal phones that or you know in-ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► monitors they're all they're also called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► that actually block your whole ear canal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► with some kind of like big like rubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► cone thing or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► they they physically block the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► from getting into your ears larger over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► ear headphones have a similar effect but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► with they just they they cup over your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► ears as if you're putting your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► over your ears and block the sound it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► that way either way you're physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► blocking the sound from getting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► for the ear pot or started for the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► pods or your pods to do that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► have to have a totally different shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► that would actually like block your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► canal and be more like canal phones or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► they would have to have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► like you know coating or cover you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► put on them some kind of accessory that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► you can put on them to do that although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► I think they would ideally they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► so that there's no there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► stopping Apple from releasing air pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► canal phones but it's it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► style of product it has it's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► different shape it's a whole different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► set of constraints and design goals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► you'd have to have for it I don't expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► they would do that probably at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► if they do it would probably be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► separate product it probably would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► just be like air pods - now they block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► your whole ear canal it would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► be like here's the new you know air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► canals or you know whatever it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► would have a better name than that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► it would probably be a separate product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► because that's a very separate physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► products let's just work on Apple being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► able to ship air pods in a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► time worried about adding features thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► burn yeah and I also would not spend too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4675">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► much time waiting around for the air pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► two's yeah air pods - whatever they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► I don't think Apple was updating the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► pods anytime soon probably right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► that Alex s glum SAS writes in to say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► you could make a single change to Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► what would it be I will say that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► though it's probably not the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► thing in the world what I really love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► see is reflection and I've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► this from time to time reflection or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► introspection means at runtime you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► look at an object in code and say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► know what are the properties it has one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► of the methods it has and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► typically along with that you'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► annotations which are attributes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► c-sharp world which means you can kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► of decorate your code with metadata [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► which is also super useful I could go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► and on and on about this but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► terribly interesting so I'll just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► reflection with a bonus choice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► stealing Marcos thought earlier of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► better concurrency model so since I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► stolen your obvious answer Marco what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► would you say have two versions oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► don't really have a good answer this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► question because I don't know enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► aforementioned factors I don't use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► qualified to say John so if a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► change if concurrency counts as a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► chain so just solve concurrency the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► solution of your choosing either a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► something entirely different or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► that would be my single thing but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► kind of vague if I have to be narrow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► would say I would say regular expression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► literals but you know no way both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► those things are coming by the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► a question of when Brian Middleton asks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► what arcade games are each of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► nostalgic for from your childhood is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► there one game you would like to own I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► will start as usual I we actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► pinball machine in the house my dad many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► years ago had a had gone through a phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► of restore or maybe not restoring but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► repairing old pinball machines and so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► six of them at one point but unloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► all but two of them one of which went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► me and one of what she still has so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► obviously have nostalgia for all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► but in terms of like traditional arcade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► NBA Jam cruisin USA and Street Fighter 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► I didn't play any of them that much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► I enjoyed deeply all three of those both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► in in arcade form and in occasionally in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► console form so I would say those three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► honestly I hardly went to arcades in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► childhood we didn't really live that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► close to them and we didn't have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► of money and so I idea of just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► there and like blowing like tens of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► dollars maybe like that would be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► would not really happen in my family but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► wait what I did play a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► arcade game since I was like a teenager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► here and there the one I most liked was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► Daytona USA this was during the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► the mid 90s or so so like the Sega [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► Saturn was coming out and so they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► had like a few cool games like Virtua [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► Fighter and everything that were coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► out with you know alongside of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► Daytona USA was my favorite one it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► racing game and it was just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► basic kind of like NASCAR style I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► I don't know I don't know whatever style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► uses what appear to be stock cars on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► round track but that a lot of turns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► it was a lot of fun but it was $1.00 per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► play in most arcades so I hardly ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► played it with the exception of there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► was like I was in some kind of youth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► group and there was one time that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► had a lock-in at a Magic Mountain arcade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► where we just got everything set to free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► play might have to play them all night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► so I play a lot of it Daytona USA for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► one night and that was awesome but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► than this is kind of a set so we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► oh man I hardly ever played Archy really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► John I played a lot of arcade games I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► was thought that a very nice nostalgic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► for it's hard to pick one that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► want to own though because in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► arcade games back then and I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► still today we're made to take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► getting lots of you know tokens or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► quarters and feeding them into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► machines and I think if I owned any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► them they they would become shallow very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► fast especially the games I'm nostalgic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► about unless you do something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► centipede or like pac-man or you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► whatever but uh in a couple of summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► camps I went through the head arcade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► games they were either set to free or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► were only 25 cents when instead of 50 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► whatever and that I played a lot and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► there are some games I got really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► at like one of them that was Tiger heli [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► similar type of game both of those very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► camp I got really good at those games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► like that was where you put in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► quarter and I'd play for a really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► really long time you know and but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► then you feel like oh well now I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► the whole game like this is all there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► to this game and so I really wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► want to own it so I don't think I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► want to own any machines but most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► subject for the Star Wars sit-down game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► afterburner we're just as impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► when it first came out especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► the one that you move around inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► thing was one of the first 50:57 games I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► can remember the classics centipede [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► Galaga I liked time pilot is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► were one called section Z sidearm this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► was a totally weird one that I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► think was awesome I have all these em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► name now though so I don't need to own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► any of the machines nice nuclear Eclipse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► asks this is John Reese when will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► record neutral season 2 my official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► answer is we've been recording it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► the last like three years and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► shows of this show my unofficial answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► is not soon enough John let's go to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► well you answered it there's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► intro season two you listen to it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► done and done Krusty the Klown writes do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► you think an iOS laptop would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► viable product ie an iBook I was hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► Apple would announced at WWDC but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► didn't happen isn't that kind of what an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► iPad pro is like I understand well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► presume that Roger Escobar's person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► wrote in is is asking you know something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► that has the physical like connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► that you can never you know separate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► two I I feel like an iPad pro is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► close to there that it's oh it's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► see really is it not okay okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► that's the thing I've never owned an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► iPad pro so so learn me to show me why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► I'm wrong yeah so I I have I've now had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► the 9.7 pro and 10.5 and I keep I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► it always in the keyboard cover almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► always on the Apple keyboard cover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► and there are other keyboard covers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► kind of make it a little bit more laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► like but it they're mostly not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► great for the way some people use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► I'm one of these people I would use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► I would buy that product because I oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► always want the keyboard the keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► what made iPad usable for me as simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► as that like I do occasionally like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► on the couch and fold the keyboard back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► behind it and try to use it without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► and I hate it I always end up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► folding it back out and like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► use on my lap which is awful cuz it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► all floppy and Bailey back weighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► everything so I would say this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► huge market probably but if they did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► I would I would certainly buy it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► way because iOS for me you know part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► the part of the reason why it feels so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► hobbled to me so often is the lack of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► keyboard when I'm on my phone or when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► want on iPad without that so like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► that's why formulate the keyboard really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► has made a huge difference for me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► making iOS on the iPad and making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► making the iPad worth having and worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► keeping out in my kitchen all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► so a clamshell version of that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► welcome but I honestly I would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► surprised if they did it John this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► where there would be a viable product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► and I think it totally would like as iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► expands its functionality to solve some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► of the same problems that are currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► only or best solved by a Mac today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► inevitably has to come into that area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► because it's proved it's a proven form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► factor people like that form factors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► just a question of oh can you combine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► that form factor with a bunch of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► things software and battery life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► costs and other trade-offs to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► compelling product yes you totally can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► yeah I think you could do with iOS today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► but certainly as iOS continues get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► it would be a viable product whether how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► soon Apple will do it I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► chance rubbage writes and asked more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► more podcasts are going behind paywalls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► is it a good idea for Apple to enable a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► tip jar or in-app purchase for podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► I don't see how that could really work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► out especially since it would presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► be locked to the Apple podcast app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► even if you could just magically snap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► your fingers and make that work across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► any podcast app anywhere I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► think it would help the smaller podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► but for something like us I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► that it would me and not to say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► like sorry that implies that we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► a 99 you know percent invisible we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► not that anything either but like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► mid-level if you if we can generously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► call ourselves that like a mid-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► show like this one I don't know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► would make a big difference let's go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► Jon first Apple implementing it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► problem here because having a way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► people to do a tip jar and app purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► for podcasts that would be a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► because the ability to do more business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► models more easily lets different shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► find different ways to fund themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► depends on the show and the audience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► so forth but having it be Apple thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► bad because the you know one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► great benefits of podcasts is they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► not owned and controlled by a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► corporation to the degree that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► other things are and so I wouldn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► Apple to do this because if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► wildly successful it's a problem and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► they're not successful then what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► that was the even the point you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► allow more business models so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► love for there to be standards that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► know the clients would work with across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► multiple platforms just like RSS is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► standard the clients work with across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► podcasts if there was a similar standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► a similar open cross-platform standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► for enabling different kind of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► models that would be great but guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► who's motivated to make such a thing not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► Apple and not a lot of other companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► too so Marco I would say also like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► this question starts with the statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► more and more podcasts are going behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► paywalls this sounds like a big trend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► but I don't think it is much of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► really I think the only podcasts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► have actually succeeded in going behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► paywalls for the most part are the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► that monetize their back catalogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► that are they're fairly timeless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► that you can either use their own it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► possibly paid app or pay for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► membership to download like archive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► older episodes but then the current ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► are still free that's a way more common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► thing and even that doesn't work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► every show like that only works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► shows that are timeless doesn't wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► work for a show like ours where we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► mostly about news you know so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► that whole but like I don't think a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► of podcasts overall are going behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► paywalls and in the traditional sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► like you can't listen to this unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► pay us the fact is that's really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► it's really hard to grow an audience if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► as I mean you look look around the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► rest of the web lots of news sites and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► everything I have tried paywalls very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► few have succeeded because of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► problem and the ones that have have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► these kind of porous pay walls where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► can get a bunch for free upfront and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► then you may manage to pay us or clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► your cookies or you couldn't you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► pay us to read all of our articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► unless you come from Google or Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► like there's like there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► like these holes because pay walls are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► really hard to make work podcasts have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► have survived and thrived and grown all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► this time driven almost entirely by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► advertising the exact same way most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► websites have always funded themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► for all the same reasons that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► really again it's hard to grow an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► audience if you're making people pay on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► the way in and it's generally easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► sell ads than to do that and advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► will typically pay more than your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► audience will so I don't really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► this is a big problem either a trend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► that is happening or something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► really needs to be explored that much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► that being said if Apple were to enable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► podcasts I honestly I have thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► doing this in over cast before I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► talked to podcasters about it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► overall conclusion I have reached is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► that that would be a very messy business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► to be in and that for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► podcasters now because there isn't a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► centralised system run by Apple anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► else podcasters now have found ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► their own ways they own ways that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► control people have patreon so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► have memberships and people just do ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► combination thereof but the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► that no one's involved there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► middleman there is no like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► Apple skimming 30% off the top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► making everything go through them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► disallowing everything else like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► you know there is no middleman and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► when I talk to podcasters when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► thinking about doing something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► in overcast the universal response was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► we don't want anyone else handling our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► money for us we don't want anyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► getting between our audience in us me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► Apple or anybody else like no one wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► that and and I would see like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► what if I started collecting money and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► just distribute it to you like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► readability style like would you go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► that and the universal response was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► of like yeah I guess I would take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► money but I wouldn't promote it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► I would want if I'm gonna promote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► something I want to promote my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► membership thing on my own site or my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► own patreon whatever else like everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► wanted to do their own thing with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► own money and they don't want middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► people to come in and collect money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► their behalf like that you're not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► them a favor of doing that so ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► I I see why this question is asked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► it's going to keep being asked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► every six months for if for the next ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► years as everyone thinks about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► things the podcast but I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► think this is really a big problem and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► middleman to come in and and get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► way of between them and their customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► I'm things like patreon or a middleman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► as well but they're they're divorced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► from podcasting there's nothing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► patreon that has podcast specific so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► it's just a question of like how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► find a way to fund the thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► doing and you have all these tool I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► stripe is a you know middleman they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► like if they taking your percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► your transactions they're any good like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► there's always going to be people taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► a percentage of transactions but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► world of podcasting it's nice to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► have or you have to do it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► because this is how podcasts are sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► you want to use stripe you want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► patreon you want to Kickstarter you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► to solicit donations on your web page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► and use any one of those services none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► of those are tied to podcasting and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► interesting to the podcast ecosystem or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► you know force you to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► unlike for example the App Store where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► fully controls how you can pay for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► how you can collect money for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► applications yeah Chris Adamson writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► what streaming services other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► Netflix do you guys use does siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► have a country roll subscription so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► actually let's start with John and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► we'll end with me I saw this question I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► was trying to think of I mean I do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► subscribe to Hulu I subscribed Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► Prime I do not have a crunchyroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► subscription but I have had one in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► past maybe there's other ones I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► I thought about the other day I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► catalog all the things have subscribed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► to so I am aware rado crown the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► he'll steal style of not having too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► subscriptions but they've been creeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► in like I mean for things like Hulu is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► like oh I want to see The Handmaid's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► Tale so I'll describe to Hulu but now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► just have a whose description forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► because I find other shows that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► to watch I already watched a good place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► on there because other things I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► watch on Hulu right this can't continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► indefinitely because I will be end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► you know I gotta add up all those 5 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► whatever dollars a month and see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► their I was HBO well no but that's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► of my cable I don't know they've too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► fair enough Marco for us it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► Netflix and HBO go or now whichever one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► is those two that's it yeah for us it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► Netflix and we are Amazon Prime members [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► by virtue or Prime video members by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► oh yeah us to never use it yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► that's the thing like outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► probably would have subscribed to prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► video specifically for the Grand Tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► and then regretted it because the Grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► exalt rights in do I have a real name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► here sorry little fancy spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► doesn't catch real names as elf ridin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► rights in I'm standing in the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► store in my local mall before Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► 1986 John sell me on a Mac Plus over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► Apple 2 GS oh the pixels are the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► boulders on the Apple 2 GS the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► number of amazing games that are you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► have to play on the Mac Plus will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► impress any Apple to do yes yes I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► the 2 GS is color but a the Mac is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► and see the Mac has an incredible amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► of charm like its there's no contest if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► you have the money as I say if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► the means I highly recommend one do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► do the amplitude yes it is a dead end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► that was Ferris Bueller by the way all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► right uh Melvin gun latch writes in how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► did you initially meet and what got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► started making podcast together bits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► pieces of the story I've been told many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► many many times in the past so I'll try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► to give the chief summarizer in chief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► version mark when I met when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► your parents or grandparents it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► entirely important had a house that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► on a small lake in upstate New York my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► grandparents had a had a different house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► on the same small lake in upstate New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► York and we would hang out over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► summers because basically we're the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► kids that were there and we kind of fell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► out of touch not an angry way just in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► you know we were kids and we grew up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► kind of way and I think one of us would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► email the other from time to time over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► the years and then shortly after I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► was after we both got married so not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► terribly long after college one of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► reached out to the other if I recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► correctly each of us blames the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► for doing this and in both the good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► and in the haha way but anyway somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► or another we fell back in touch and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► we just kind of rekindled our friendship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► from forever ago so of the people that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► still talk to Marco and are now mutual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► friend Brad Lawton back who works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► light there they are my two oldest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► friends that I've known for about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► same amount of time and it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► something like 20 years now so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► forward to WDC 2011 2012 I forget which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► one it was I want to say was 2011 Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► and I are in line for the keynote and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► forget if John siracusa walked up to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► or Marco found John but one way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► another John found us and we found John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► and we hung out for the rest of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► and then John and I kind of became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► friendly after that and around the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► that build and analyze ended in late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► 2012 I guess it was I had started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► needling Marco about hey we should do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► car show we should do a car show even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► nobody listens to it'll still be fun we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► should do a car show spoiler alert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► nobody listened to it but anyway Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► say you know hypercritical just ended I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► wonder if John would do it too cuz he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► likes cars and so that's how neutral got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► started and then we would we would as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► three nerds are off to do we would start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► talking about nerdy stuff after the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► and Marco's similar story had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► Soundcloud which by the time you listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► to this may not even exist anymore he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► put those episodes on SoundCloud and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► realized well people actually like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► we talk about things we sort of know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► about and people are not that interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► in us pontificating about cars of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► we know nothing about so maybe we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► stop with the car thing and start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► the tech thing and that's kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► super abridged version of how this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► came to be and so ATP really became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► thing I think in March of 2013 and here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► we are in the middle of 2017 it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► still a thing so let's start with Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► any other thoughts to add and then John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► after him only that this is now one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► instapaper was longer club you I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► taking simple water oh my god well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► it was about five years so this we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► the were near for now for this does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► mean does that mean the clock is ticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► worried no I once I once this becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► longest job I've ever held which I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► pretty sure will happen then I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► celebrate then there enough John any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► other thoughts I continue to protest the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► characterization of not knowing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► about cars speak for yourselves I know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► I can't really argue with that alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► let's see what else is good and do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► tape your webcams gentlemen John do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► put tape over your webcam nope nope same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► here Marco are you still and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► question from mark so mark - mark oh are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► you still happy choosing go for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► overcast back end yeah not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► but so first of all only a very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► part of the overcast back end is in go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► most of it is still PHP there's simply a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► crawlers and they'll even it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► even do the whole process it just pulls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► a whole bunch of feeds and fetches their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► Changez if they don't report based for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► him with cash headers and then if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► exchanged feed it then stuffs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► contents of that feed into a into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► consumers and the whole web app is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► PHP so I would I would not even say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► component in the backend and go is go is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► an interesting language I'm sure a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► of people like it a lot I I like it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► lot for certain things but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► cumbersome to do complex things so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► it's really great for what I'm using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► now for which is like something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► a fairly simple task but you need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► really fast you need to have a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► concurrency story there but like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► not want to write it now that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► gotten to the language a bit enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► do this I would definitely not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► write a whole web app of complexity you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► can go just because simple things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► cumbersome to do alright we only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► time for a few more because I'm about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► die and so let's choose a few uh oh god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► pronounce this but Jo Shin Marshall I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► so so sorry how did you how did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► year's ATP t-shirt campaign work out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► you I'm happy to share my not so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► experience this is another example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► doing something nicely that could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► taken a terrible turn so the the shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► are tough thing right because right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► we kind of have two choices we can use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► company that has a printing press if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► will in Europe but doesn't seem to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► the best with fulfillment and often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► times has problems or we can use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► company that is only based out of the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► which kind of screws the Europeans but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► is way more reliable and we've fluttered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► back and forth between these two options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► I will only speak for myself and say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► will probably petition for the US only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► completely if like a $90 t-shirt it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► just too darn much money to ask for from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► the Europeans because in some cases like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► with import tax and v80 or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► expensive and in and I am deeply sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► for that I really truly am but but I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► experience and just decide whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► not it's worth the money to them then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► having a really crummy experience so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► this is your warning Europeans right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► that whenever we do t-shirts next it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► probably gonna be expensive and I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► sorry John any other thoughts I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► think it was that bad this year like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► sold a lot of shirts and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► percentage where there's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► problems I'm more happy having more the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► larger number of people who are happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► with the shirts that they got across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► even if it also means a proportionately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► larger number of people who are unhappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► because I'm presuming the only happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► people can get Raley's get their money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► back but it is a trade off and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► complaining either way and who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► what we'll do the problem is the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► is that this is not what you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► is not our core competency we are not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► t-shirt generating enterprise we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► podcast generating enterprise that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► a year does this silly thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► t-shirts so the right way to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► it's like oh you got to do it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► in-house but we're not a corporation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► here we're just three people so every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► year these three people try to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► out how to do t-shirts in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► makes sense for everybody involved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► we have varying degrees of success and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► Marco any other thoughts only I'm with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► you Casey and and I would go a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► further to say so so basically you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► cotton bureau makes does great work they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► they have their Austin quality they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► awesome people who are there who help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► with the designs are often do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► designs they designed are our ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► rainbow and logo kind of thing like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► design that themselves without even us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► telling them like they there they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► they are great they do great work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► yeah they're international shipping is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► really expensive because they print here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► which is what we use this year and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► couple years ago also teespring has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► printers in multiple locations around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► the world we've had lots of problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► so it is cheaper and we actually make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► more money from the teespring shirts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► I think but I would go as far as to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► right now on the record I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► ever want to use teespring again after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► this year because in the past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► quality issue was a single large mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► it was like when we had that but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► wrong font on the source code on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► back of the shirt like that was a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► large mistake that we worked with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► they corrected it they sent everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► new shirts it was one mistake one big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► this year the problem I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► has changed at each me I know there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► an article about they were having you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► know layoffs or something so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► know what's going on over there I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► pay attention but this year it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► a large number of different diffuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► small problems like even like the shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► I ordered I have bad printing on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► two of the four shirts that I ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► there were things like missing colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► things like misalignment where like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► logo was slightly slanted instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► being aligned properly like stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► that just a lot of like small diffuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► issues with teespring this year that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► seems like maybe they have more printers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► I don't know what the deal is but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► the kind of problem that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► really just go to them and have them fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► you can't go to them and say hey like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► third of these shirts from random color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► combinations and places are weird in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► inconsistent like they're not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► able to fix that so I would rather you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► know going back to a key said I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► rather have a have something that I at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► least know is a good product that is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► least coming out right and coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► you know with high quality even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► costs too much for some people to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► able to justify I'd rather sell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► than to do what we had this year and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► people sending in pictures of the sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► that they were so excited to get and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► see like it's missing a color or its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► slant it or it's badly a bad print job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► bad ink like that crushes me so I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► so I would not want to do the one duty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► spring anymore and I don't care what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► t-shirts then sell teespring t-shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► again yeah I'm pretty similar in that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► that feeling Marcos since you are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► talking let's have you talk a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► more why do you do all the ad reads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► that's my phil cohen by the way I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► kind of do we never really talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► it the way it started with neutral the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► short answer is that that I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► to do them in case you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6418">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► doesn't want to do them and Marco does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► them yeah and so neither of us are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► go hey Marco can we do that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► would neither of us want to do no we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► gonna let Marco so basically it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► because Marco is nice enough to do them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► and Casey and I are nice enough to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► him I used to sell them directly myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► at the beginning so it started out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► I was selling them so it just made sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► for me to also read them because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► talking to the sponsors and learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► everything else these days I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► anybody could do it but yeah I do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► I don't mind doing it and it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► my workflow and it's totally fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► also a part of the thing like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► situations very often there's one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► that cares more about something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► somebody else and I have a feeling Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► cares more about the ad reads than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► either one of us do so anymore they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► didn't do it the way the way how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► tweaking he does to the ad copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► getting it so that he's happy with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► III think that is a factor I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► either one of us did ad reads we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6477">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► do it in a way that Marco does not find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► satisfactory definitely that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► a good point all right I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► going to be the last question and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► it should be a good one a Hans Schrader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► right saying I'm from Europe could John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► explain for a foreigner why he is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► touchy on the subject of bagels no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► gonna explain to Casey why he should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► select the question that I highlighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► in yellow in the spreadsheet I can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► see but so much of the spreadsheet at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► once my word 100 oh I am nowhere near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► there that's why I skipped it okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► the answer the question is the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► the question that John is answering is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► there are good bagels and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► things that vaguely resembled bagels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► John and I both have reasons to prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► actually so this is a very simple thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► everyone has foods that they growing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► that are like regional or local to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► family or whatever but they're nostalgic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► that I had when I was a child that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► thing and bagels like that for me only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► bagels are pretty widely regional to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► New York metro area so I grew up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► the expectation that I can get bagels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► that taste in a certain way and pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► anywhere and as you know a sheltered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► child who didn't travel too much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► assume this was true everywhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► United States but then when I went off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► to college I learned this is not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► and even a little bit farther north and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► east everything I got that people called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► a bagel didn't taste like the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► that I when I was growing up and I'd go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► back to New York and said no they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► still there but nobody else has them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► same thing with pizza so it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► that's that's why it's important that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► bagels are made a certain way in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► region where I grew up and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► that's the sort of their entry point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► into the u.s. they have some stake in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► saying this is the way the bagels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► quote unquote supposed to taste right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► and that I can't get them where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► nostalgic for them that's it same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► with pizza pizza is actually probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6598">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► worse than bagels but both of them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► miss when I was on Long Island I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► both oops reasonable for me thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► sponsors this week betterment Warby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► Parker and Squarespace and we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► they didn't even mean to begin because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► johnny research Marco and Casey wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► accidental today cas pyl is Esther [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► that's Casey less and a Artem a RM aunty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► Marco Arment and I are a Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6654">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► all right so the Zelda question is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► one you want John it's the one in yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► I mean it's not it's not enough material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► for an after show but yeah I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► I have flux on so I can't tell what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► hell is yellow right oh god I'm blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► oh god I'm blind the problem say fluxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► I don't like those things we came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► Vincent's covered curved Vincent's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► curved I'll get this one day right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► what is your what is the status on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► breath of the wild progression did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► finish every aspect of the game etc as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► did with most questions I'll start this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► off I still very much enjoy the game but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► haven't played it in probably like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► I've just been incredibly busy lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► and haven't had a chance to sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► with it and also I think we discussed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6717">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► the show at some point I am not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► remembering exactly what I was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► when I put it down so I'll have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► particular task or mission or thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► want to accomplish but sometimes is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► you know one of the official game tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► but sometimes it's like oh I want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► and get myself ready for this game test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► by going across the map and doing such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► and such thing or whatever the case may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► be and then I never write it down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► frustrated when I pick the game back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► because I I have no memory and need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► like reestablish where I am and what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► doing that's my two cents Marco let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► talk Adar you playing Zelda at all no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► don't know okay alright moving on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► John well Marco can give us a tip update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► how is she doing it I don't um they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► playing it sometimes I can't tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► how far they I have no idea try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► participate in your family mar going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► down there watch you play your stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► okay watch sometimes but I have I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► no idea how to communicate to you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► far they are alright so for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► I don't usually 100% games I have 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► did many Zelda's is that series I play a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► lot I like a lot there's a chance I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► would have a hundred percent did breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► of the wild if it wasn't for the co rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► seeds I don't think I'm ever going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► just too many of them but i have i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► coming close to doing every non seed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► thing in the non dlc portion of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► to the point we're also we doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► like having every possible armor set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► also fully upgraded i'm getting close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► that it's like it was in reach and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► might end up doing it for the dlc i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► the the was it trial of the sword i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► that so i master sword is fully charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► up to 260 all the time which is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► and also lasts so much longer time I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► all the side quests in the DLC so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► done everything of a hundred percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► the DLC which was tiny or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6837">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► not a big deal and like I said I'm don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► even have all the shrines left I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► the hundreds but I'm within striking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSCxRoQ/6842">TS</a>]