00:00:00 ◼ ► so you use the it's a 15 inch know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► remember I know I make it hard to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► I can't keep track holy shit on a 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/12">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► touch bar I'm a 15 touch bar which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► never actually used the touch bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► that was because all the ports it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/20">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► partially because of the ports it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/21">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► partially because I tried the first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/23">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► weekends I was spending here I used the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/25">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► the map book escape with the 5k and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► was struggling to drive all those pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► dragging was slow and and then and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► did want more performance if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► gonna be like my main computer for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► month of heavy iOS development you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► then I rationalize it away by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/44">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► well then when I go home I can bring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/45">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► LG 5k and I can sell my iMac while it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/48">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► still under any kind of warranty it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► like it's I think it's under warranty to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► clamshell with this but instead of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► have now as my main set up until the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/60">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► appropriated a second 4k monitor which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► is a story that's not worth telling at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/69">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► the moment so I have two of these LJ 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► monitor LG for the Duchesse ALJ LG 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► monitors that are now being run off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► my pre touch bar MacBook Pro and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/78">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► honest it actually seems just fine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► these now granted there for K not 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► it's a big difference but it seems just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/88">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► forgotten how persnickety and and fickle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/92">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► Mac OS is when it comes to clamshell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/95">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► mode there are lots of times that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► like I put it to sleep and I open it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► and it spurious and sometimes doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► wake up I don't put it to sleep and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/106">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► just rip all the cables out and I walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► away and it goes to sleep and then may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► or may not wake up I'll open the lid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► everything just dances all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► actually be the way I want it to be its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► clamshell is not really what we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► be doing with these things which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► unfortunate because I do like it when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/126">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► have either you know a 5k is you have or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► like a couple of for K's like I have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/130">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► vacation times and I completely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► like it's been a while since I've used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► just a laptop with Mac OS at like laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/140">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► with a desktop screen connected to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/143">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► like it's been a like I used to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► all the time I used my my main setup but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► that was probably a good six seven years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► ago at least and I had forgotten like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► quite how just inconsistent a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► stuff is like it just it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► right and that le now with the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► it's even worse like every time I log in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► the text box won't show on the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► screen I think you start typing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► it's the laptop is waiting for touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► but it's closed and so on the big LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► screen it just shows me a login window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► and it will not show the text area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► unless you start typing it's like weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► little stuff like that it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► just not it's not good I really honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► I'm rethinking my plan now of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► getting rid of my iMac early I'm like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► not to mention like this lg screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/188">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► I rented a vanity for like it's not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► mean so one thing is I had to get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► Ergo Tron arm because the stand is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► it just kept wobbling like every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► would like type on my keyboard I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/203">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► think I'm I'm that aggressive of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► typist but every time I would type on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► the keyboard my monitor would wobble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► back and forth but yeah yeah LG is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► it's a piece of crap it's just it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► a good it's it's a PC monitor it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► crap speaker that has crap frame around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► it it's you know it had that stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► interference problem with the early ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► like it's just not a well engineered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/224">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► piece of anything and I I don't expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/225">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► to be buying more non-apple monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► there if I can help it alright so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/231">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► is a weird setup for tonight it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► currently the evening of Friday the 4th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► of August and we are going to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► marathon recording session and we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► to get this week's which probably won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► be released until tomorrow on the fifth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► Saturday the 5th of August this week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► recording which will probably be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► mostly normal ATP recording and next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/255">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► weeks which will be released on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► around Wednesday the 9th we are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► bit of Q&A probably for most of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► ends up being the second episode but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► are recording these both back-to-back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► and we may or may not have a cleaned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► separation between the first episode in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► the second depending on how aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► Marko gets when he does the slicing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► dicing so I have so many ideas I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/283">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► only imagine this is like I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► like so my two favorite ideas are either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► we do like next week on a TP like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/290">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► those like previous or we do like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► classic cop-out of like I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► to end this song in the 80s so I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► gonna fade it out I'll just be repeating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► the same sentence over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► and just slowly fade way to spoil your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/307">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► two best ideas I hope you don't put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► in the episode so anyway so this one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/312">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► might feel this one in the next one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► should say might feel slightly weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► I apologize if that's the case like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► episode between the three of us we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► planned our vacations to not overlap at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► all which is kind of unfortunate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► times when you want to make sure all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/335">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► three of you are here to record so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► doing the best we can we apologize and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► that being said John how was your beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► vacation it's fine beat that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/343">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► have guessed let's talk about TSM C's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/357">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► ten millimeters excuse me ten nanometers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► versus Intel Intel's 10 nanometers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► we had somebody in the know right in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/366">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► that person said you know I work for one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/369">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► of the companies involved and they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► be biased but I like the show this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► this person talking and I just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► point out that like so many other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/379">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► in technology naming of processed notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► has become more marketing than reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► so there's an article that talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/384">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► continues this anonymous email or one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► the recent tricks is to quote a distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► electrically active so this allows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► to quote a small number but of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/396">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► and another person in a Julian Heather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/400">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► Bell wrote in to say that TSM sees ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► nanometers is only a bit denser than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► Intel's 14 so Intel claims a three-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► advantage on ten nanometers and wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► redefine everything we have another post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► about that and yet another post which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► will put them show notes about how Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► leadership after next year we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► race you in a hurry you got somewhere to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► be we have two episodes to fill here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/425">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► stretch it out you know do you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► TV stretch out motion looks like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► pulling taffy doing the opposite you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► doing the the fingers rotate bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► together yeah yeah get it together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/437">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► stretch out follow up apparently we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► because Casey's going for a speed run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► again let me know there will be three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/445">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► links in those show nuts if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/449">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► read more about this but the upshot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► that a lot a lot of people rose to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► hey until 10 nanometre isn't gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► way smaller than TSMC Nana made 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► nanometre and there's a lot of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/459">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► for that and feature size is not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/460">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► strictly defined as this couple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► emails pointed out you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► quote-unquote cheat by quoting distances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► distances that make your particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/472">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► arrangement look good because again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► these are when they're laying out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/475">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► arrangement of things there's a layering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/479">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► vertical horizontal you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► three-dimensional it's not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/482">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► even though it's done with you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► ography it's not just two-dimensional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► like a drawing it's actually a 3d shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/487">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► and it influences what the distances are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► between things anyway it's complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► but consensus was from all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► feedback and all that in articles that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► TSMC ten millimeter is not as small as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► until ten nanometer tint also has a lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► and that final link is like well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► they have lead now but they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/503">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► lose it and in 2019 and later and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► guess we'll see that was still fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► quick thank you very much but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/509">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► right we should stretch it out so Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/514">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► continue with it I thought you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► struggling to pronounce his name even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► Dean that one's really difficult so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► Steven wrote in to say you're missing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► without a subwoofer your atoms only go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► down to about 86 Hertz which is normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► cutoff for a non full range can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► translate that into English for me yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► so basically you know speakers because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► they are these giant moving things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/544">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► everything there's a certain frequency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► range that they're able to reproduce and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/546">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► and what he's saying is that the low end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/549">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► of the frequency range of the woofers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► that are in my paradigm atom speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► are they can't reproduce very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/557">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► low frequencies and subwoofers have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► frequencies much lower and and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► certainly one reason to have a sub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► woofer I think a better reason to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► sub woofer is to get like more bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/573">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► energy you know more you can get more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► that thump more of that slam I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► and you know base hits and sounds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► stuff and you can just also just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► more volume and more spread that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► probably a better reason to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/587">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► honestly but my my reasons for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► liking subwoofers and not really wanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► one remain I designed my TV speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► setup to be really good for music in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► way that still is okay for TV and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► think for music I still largely prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► two speakers not surround and for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/605">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► to be not with some like big booming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► thumpy subwoofer you know on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► corner of the room now I know it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► however the arrangement of my living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► room is such that I don't really have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► good place to put a subwoofer or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► even a pair of subwoofers that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► make any sense and that would sound good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► so you know it lots of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► written in saying you know you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► the subwoofer in good places there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/634">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► good so but you know there are more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► that more you know more ways to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► and then when I said last time and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/639">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► is true you know in an ideal world but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► my living room is on an ideal world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► so I have limitations of of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► what I can put where how much space I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► have in the current arrangement how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► things need to look because we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► want everything to just be this one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► giant box so you know my setup is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► for me and if you want subwoofers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► you were set up or if you want surround [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/663">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► sound and your setup cool I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► I don't know how the setup is good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► music if you're giving up 2286 hurts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► that entire frequency range that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► that president music - it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/674">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► movies explosions that have it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► I mean all the things about volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► exaggerate in a movie but just plain old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/679">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► music music has bass - I know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► like bass you're doing your own reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► but that's not true i I don't like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/684">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► basses all you hear and and so while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/689">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► again I agree that it would be nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► have you know solid response across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► whole frequency range in practice that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► hard it's easy it's way easier doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► headphones than it is and speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► headphones you only have one driver and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► you can you know you can do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► even easier things with it but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► the speakers you have to have like large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/711">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► things that depend on the arrangement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► your room and and large boxes and large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► transducers of some kind that vibrate up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► and down and just get a home pot it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► figure out how your room is arranged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► I actually really curious to hear how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► the home pod deals with bass because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► basically it's one of those things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► kind of like the it's kind of like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► it's hard for very very small camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► sensors to do things that require big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► glass bass reproduction is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► things where like at some point you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► of just need largeness like you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► like a large surface to vibrate slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► to get some of that you know and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► it's very very hard for any kind of very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► small speaker to have good bass response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► that's why once the trend moved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► computer speakers and then later on home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► theater speakers once the trend moved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► very very small speakers they also had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► to add subwoofers because the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► tiny speakers would reproduce the higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/767">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► frequency it's just fine but then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► needed to add a sub woofer to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► low frequencies and there was no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► make like a small speaker that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► also do the low frequencies so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► Amazon echo definitely has this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► where the bass on it it's non-existent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► although the sound quality isn't very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► good anyway on it so maybe they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► don't care but the home pod I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► imagine they're gonna care a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► sound quality so I am really curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/789">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► see how they solve that problem if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/792">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► solve that problem or if they just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► know crank up the bass in in DSP in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/796">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► artificially inflate the little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► bass they have and just hope that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► enough and call today what was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► biggest driver in the home pot it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► something I don't know I have I sleuth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► it up six inches is pretty big the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► thing is not that big so we know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/815">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► can't be it's not bigger than than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/816">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► pot itself that's a pretty small little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/817">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► thing but yeah I can't yeah can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► that big of a speaker in there it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► question I had about them and I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► have that although I think it's mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► been answered if you buy two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/828">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► like they recommend it's not as if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► act like stereo speakers it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/831">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► they both just figure out how to best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► fill the room with sound but each one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► them it's not like one is the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► similarly one is wooden doesn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► become the sub you know I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► imagine if one could just do the low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► frequencies and it looks like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/845">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► subwoofer anyway looks like a jellyfish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► but apparently they don't work that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► when when we were living in Connecticut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► so this is when I was in like high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/854">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► school and dad had decided that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/855">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► wanted to take his home theater really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/860">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► seriously and so not only did we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► some subwoofers somewhere in the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► of the room but he actually installed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► believe the term was based shakers or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► least maybe maybe that's a brand like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► proprietary eponym or whatever it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/872">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► anyways basically under the floor of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/875">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► handful of basically vibrator motors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► like you would find in your phone just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► much bigger and they were wired into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► like the amplifier and acted as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► literally feel explosions when you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► watching movies is pretty cool at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► time magic fingers right I'm sure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► a reference and I don't get it but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► just gonna roll with it these terms all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► parlance it's a book the local furniture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► store that has an IMAX theater this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► normal thing if you are from where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/906">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► from oh my god has a thing called butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/907">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► kickers oh yeah it's not similar yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► they call them butt kickers thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/913">TS</a>]
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00:22:44 ◼ ► ones that are better for like going fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► I want big two-inch one so that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► more comfortable it's better you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► better if I like have to go on the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► of one of the walks and go into a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► immediately just like stop and fall over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► like a skinny tire might you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► so like stuff like that so basically my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► list of requirements became I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► something that could accommodate two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► inch tires with fenders and the big ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► are I want belt drive instead of a chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► and I want there to be no God I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► do you really order a yearly whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► yeah whatever the thing is that moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► the gears you want you want an internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► internal geared hubs and a belt drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► you're so you're so trendy like you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► never you've never had a bike with any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► one of these things but you already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► that you want them because somebody told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► you that belt drive is better than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► chain internal well ok first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► because the bike I have here now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► came in the house in the basement is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► know a rusty old mountain bike that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► a derailleur and rusty a chain yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► what but when they work they work fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► believe me they're fine no it's not no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► because because now we have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► things like it was fine when I was a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► when I had my mountain bike rounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► modern bikes would derail as I swear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► you are absolutely fine there and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► use your credit file whatever I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► haven't used them either I can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► that they're bad I'm just saying like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► don't don't pull them as hard fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► requirements they're really funny things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► John is that they now have bike CVTs oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► and it's it they have there's a CVT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► that's it's like about this it seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► it's about in the same price tier as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► decent like 11 speed internal hub I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► thought like oh my god if I get a CVT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► John will die like I will never hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► end of it you know it'll be well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► already I mean I was just thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► this the other day both of you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► slowly slowly fading from the manuals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► Marco doesn't even have anymore Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► well I guess you just replaced an on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► manual with an my manual but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► exactly I'm the only one who's holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► strong here anyway you take your CVT and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► just pretend it has gears just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► software does in most modern cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► it's making noises yeah so basically so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► my short list right now I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► looking at various things some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► some of the headliners are priority the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► priority company and actually ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► our priority coast to have here at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► beach house for like a general purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► bike because we have lots of people here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► TIFF wants to ride one also so I figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► I'll get this try it out it's belt drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► fixed gear coaster brake so it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► simple it's also fairly affordable it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► like 400 bucks so I'm getting that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► try it out at the high end if I get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► this and I want a nice bike probably for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► home I am very very taken by the button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► it's bicycles or I don't I assume it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► Browns button it's they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► expensive but they're very nice and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► they basically make exactly what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► so I'm gonna try to find a showroom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► try one of those out if I want a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► bike for home it's probably a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► expensive for the beach so for the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► I'm looking at priority honorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► mention for Breezer and Electra everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► recommended these two brands and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► like to investigate them like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► them neither of them really make what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► want like they don't have all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► things as a combination but yeah both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► Breezer and Electra look really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1558">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► good also everyone says Trek you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► there's a reason why Trek is so big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► well-known I find the amount of branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► on Trek spikes a little bit garish like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► they like across like the diagonal bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► and the frame it just has those giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► letters to say trick like I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► want that like I want something a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► more low-key and subtle which we get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► Cannondale yes they do yeah like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► yeah so like again like wanting a belt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► drive internal gearing 2h tires and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► that rules out a lot of people suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► so I will I will follow up if I if I buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► anything more I'm gonna do the priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► for the you know for the next few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► and then you know whatever it arrives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► try that out and then if I love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► I'll just use that if I hate it it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► the tif slash spare bike here and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► keep Wow know she wants more question is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► why do you why do you want fenders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► because of the drainage on this island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► is not very good there's often in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► large puddles I have to drive through so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► I just don't want it to splash back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► on my back oh and for everybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► sending me the IKEA bike I did look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► the IKEA slaughter bike it is belt drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► it has internal two-speed gear it is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► my opinion one of the most boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► looking bikes I've ever seen I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► personality it doesn't but not like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► to scream its brand name and giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► letters on the frame but to have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► maybe a color that isn't just black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► grey like that would be nice you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► some kind of color is the guy who buys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► black cars my car is bright red mmm this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► one was although you know what though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► this priority beach cruiser bike that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► ordered it does happen to be white you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► know it's funny Marco that can happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► a person from time to time can't it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► was the only good color funny how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► is Marco you know it can happen to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► can't it that's funny I can't wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► see pictures of you flow by on Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► on your delete on your delightful white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► bike it honestly it looks really good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► white white is not a bad bike color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► it's a terrible car color I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► bike looks super dorky which one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► priority coaster I ordered it does yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► super dorky this looks like a beach bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► to me it's a beach bike yes and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► company makes something they make other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► varieties per these priority bikes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► make other varieties that are almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► what I want like the the the continuum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► onyx and the classic Plus Gotham Edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► like they're almost what I want but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► only have skinny tires and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► you know they're made for commuters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► probably not gonna do that but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► know anyway so this could be the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► with us forever but we are in a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► hurry because we don't have any time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► really talk about all these Apple rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► cuz I'm sure no one's heard enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► the MA there's that too we should we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► should also mention there's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► link in the show notes with regard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► bikes huffy apparently is being eaten by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► Walmart do you want to explain this John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► this is actually tangential to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► larger Walmart it's a lot of stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► about what is ruined by companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► involved them pivoting to sell to super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► stores because that's where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► crappier and crappier things and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► squeezed by the super stores that demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► that you take smaller and smaller profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► margins and that's this huffy store is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► actually something different it's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► huffy got into deal with Walmart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► didn't realize how many bikes they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► actually sell through Walmart and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► couldn't actually manufacture them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► manufacture them and sell them don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► make the money from them anyway Walmart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1784">TS</a>]
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00:29:56 ◼ ► both pivoted to be bargain-basement crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1796">TS</a>]
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00:30:07 ◼ ► nothing with the brand of my youth you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1807">TS</a>]
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00:30:19 ◼ ► that's a shame and you can kind of tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1819">TS</a>]
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00:30:23 ◼ ► stores have tried to ruin bicycles I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► sorry John this is what it is John would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► you like to say face on your Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► story line that you tried to quote ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► references uh do me the favor of looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► at it's from IMDB and I always like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► here's what it whenever I look up movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► quotes a lot because I want to get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1845">TS</a>]
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00:30:49 ◼ ► memory because very often I have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► of movie quotes in my head and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► mutate over time as you repeat them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► change a little bit and so like 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► and according something you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► cuz you've said it a thousand times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► right but it's changed like through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► game of telephone only it's been inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► your head the whole time right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► it's changed inside your head anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1866">TS</a>]
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00:31:09 ◼ ► don't trust in the internet texts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1869">TS</a>]
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00:31:13 ◼ ► from this movie because text is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► movie you know the map is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► territory I need to see the video I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► to see the clip from the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► obviously that can be doctored too and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► weep for our children who will be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► to trust video even less than we do due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► to the easy ability to synthesize video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► sorry kids anyway that's progress for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► you but according to IMDB they up ramble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► aside the line I was trying to quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1895">TS</a>]
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00:31:41 ◼ ► received or ever would receive I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► missed the Hat greatest Christmas gift I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► had ever received or would ever receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► anyway there it is dears with me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► do care awesome that's I should be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► title of my biography no nobody cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/1914">TS</a>]
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00:34:10 ◼ ► my friends things have happened so let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► me do my best job as chief summarizer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2054">TS</a>]
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00:34:18 ◼ ► summary and then we'll dig him to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► details which inevitably means you too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► will interrupt me and I'm about since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► three and I will never get to complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► my summary but there was a home pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► firmware that was posted to the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► one would expect home pod firmware to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► do you guys say firmware firmwares I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► would say firmware is the plural you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► software's well that's why I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► growing up but for a fleeting moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► there I just thought yeah this should it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► be firmwares no it shouldn't be Wayne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► isn't isn't where's how you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► your supposed to pronounce W a are easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► oh yes that is true yeah yeah did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► ever say it that way in your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► growing because I always said Juarez and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► Mexico no I definitely said where's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► my head oh my dad where's to this I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► gonna say you should cut this but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► this is worth it now alright so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► so where wherever you would expect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► home pod firmware singular yet plural to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► be is where they found somebody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► upon firmware download and so a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► of people seem to grab a grab onto that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► well many people but particularly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► couple of people seem to grab on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► and start digging it apart a friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► the show can you concentrate we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► professionals that's seven second ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► joke kiba all right let's bring it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► together kids bring it back together so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► two people really dug into this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► particular and the two people were Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► John Smith who is a dear friend of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► show and gear may Rambo who also did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► lot of digging on this and so they found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► a lot of interesting stuff and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2167">TS</a>]
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00:36:12 ◼ ► iPhone that is codenamed D 22 that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► like the image that we've seen off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► on of this supposed I phone pro where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2178">TS</a>]
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00:36:26 ◼ ► the FaceTime camera there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► information about how apparently there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► will be front-facing IR camera that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2192">TS</a>]
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00:36:41 ◼ ► but that's kind of the quick quick quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► summary so how would we like to dig into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► this I'll tell you one way we did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► want to dig into this is by spring bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2207">TS</a>]
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00:37:01 ◼ ► not wise do you need a moment to collect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► yourself it's slowly going away I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► I might be okay or you might go blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► soon next time just accept the bug bites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2228">TS</a>]
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00:37:16 ◼ ► gonna try not to touch my feet I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► I was just put it on my legs that way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► won't be a problem for the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► night like it is when you put it like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► your whole body because it's like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► you really need for ticks is to put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► here on your feet and legs and I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► one tick on me I'm Laurie island just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► couple days ago and it was not on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► I don't want to hear the rest of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► story yeah this sounds super ominous it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► had not bitten me yet it was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► crawling trying to find a place to bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► that's good I removed it was prejudice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► all right so what do we think if d-22 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► I think well here's a couple thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► this I don't know if you want to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► the leaking things I guess we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► to that at the end but the information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► platformer people thinking okay so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► who cares they leak the home plot of fur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► where what the home pods not out yet we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► already know what it is it's a speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► tourney thing why why would we get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► information from that and it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► it runs iOS and iOS has a bunch of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► in it and normally that crap is removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► from bills that they release to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► public even in the betas they remove all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► the stuff that they don't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► see what might they not want you to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► icons frameworks you know the names of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► symbols programmer e-type stuff and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► people who pulled down this home plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► firmware you know extract that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► they look at all the frameworks and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► at the names of the frameworks and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► names of the functions and the symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► that are in them they look at all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► resources for different kinds of icons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► and graphics and and stuff like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► appears and dialog boxes and in the UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► and you can learn a tremendous amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► without even executing any of this code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► just because it happens to be iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► this bill doesn't help that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► excluded from it so we learned learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► quote-unquote a lot of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► things just by looking at the framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► commands and the symbols and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► whole frameworks having to do and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► know classes and methods having to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► with things about face recognition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► recognizing different kinds of faces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► why would that be in there well we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► have the rumors are better recognized in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► your face you put two together and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► say that's probably what that is down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► the point where you're looking at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► attributes and classes that say like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► said and border-radius and stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► sort of confirming the idea that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► entire edge to edge screen will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► addressable with sort of curves around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► the edges you know and classes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► might indicate how they might handle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► home button at the bottom of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► and displaying things there and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► like that so it's it's kind of tea leaf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► reading in that we don't have any actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► anything like that where we just have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► a bunch of symbols it functions but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► and you're familiar with uikit and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► rest of iOS and just programming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► general you can kind of piece together a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► surprisingly detailed picture of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► this new phone might work based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► iOS that was released as part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► home pod you know home pods OS release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► and so it's kind of a weird kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► weird leak but it just goes to show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► like anything on the internet you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► like it security through obscurity is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► security at all it never has been but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► the age of the internet even even less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► so but I was I was fascinated to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► slow leak of people pulling out all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► different details of the OS to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► where there was really good blog post by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► Allen pike where he put so it puts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► everything that we've seen here's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► way that I think the theoretical phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► might work from a software perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► so we've got Hardware rumors and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► we've got a link of the home pod thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► and then we from that synthesize this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► entire complete picture of one way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► it could be entirely wrong it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► you know something different than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► but I was pretty impressed by this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► say you know just the normal parts leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► that you get plus a bunch of class dumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► and icon files and now we have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► complete iPhone Pro possible scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► supported by all the available leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► evidence though I think it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► pretty cool if they don't do this I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► they do something just as cool because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► read this thing I'm like that a makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► sense B fits with everything that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► been leaked and C is pretty neat yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► completely agree yeah I mean like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► it does like I I'm not a fan of the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► of this weird cutout into the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► with the cameras and everything like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► don't I don't like that it seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► weird hack but if they're going to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► this looks like a really cool way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► it like with the the whole idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► having a split status bar such that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► basically you it's almost as if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► screens not cut out it's almost like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► applications don't really have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► that area or if you only get it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► navigation bars and stuff like that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► it's still weird but it's a clever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► a clever hack it's a good question about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► things like where the clock goes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► what about a stuff that won't fit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► cutouts like there's a lot in the status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► bar these days things like not having as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► much on Android though well that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► yeah I was just about to say the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► thing oh my goodness looking at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► co-workers Android phone Android phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► that have just a mountain of icons up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► there a new Android phone that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► saw like at fresh out of the box no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► weird stuff on the Samsung Android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► 100 icons in the status bar I may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► overestimating but only slightly it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► true it's like a ticker-tape of icons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► and I think it's I think it's bad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► like a Mac user you've ever seen in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► officers 100 icons of the menu bar Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► oh no I have fewer than most thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► very much you just start heating on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► ISTEP menus that I have up there but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► I like the the fact if you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► install bartender which I'm sure is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► very great app if you have to install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► bartender you have bigger problems my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► friend then then just moving some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► them out of your menu bar like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► should just get them out into Oh God I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► hate apps that for some any bar icon of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► Trajan Hana's oh so actually I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► derailed myself looking at the topless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► notes I mean look looking at the symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► recognition symbols like that is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► big a slam-dunk as people think if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► didn't already have the face recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► rumor there's all sorts of weird symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► on there and maybe wouldn't ship maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► it's not ready like we didn't see we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► didn't see the internal builds of iOS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► for all we know these symbols could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► been in there in iOS 10 they just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► make the cut you know or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► that or whatever right but we have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► those other rumors about being face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► recognition so this you know but it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► adds up right the other part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► though is all the rumors about that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► little unibrow thing a little notch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► the cut I mean we talked we saw a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► notch thing I think we talked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► when we're talking about touch ID being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► on the back and how they're gonna do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► screen thing edge to edge and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► can and can embed in the screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► apparently they can embed like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► cameras and if there's gonna be an IR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► sensor and the speaker and blah blah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► this is not CH I think one of you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► Marco thought it was the not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► doesn't seem like an apple thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► way back when when we talked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► you know it's not elegant like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► said before like the notch seems weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► doesn't it like it wouldn't it be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► it would be oh but we can't quite pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► it off so what can we do well we'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► the best we can and leave this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► notch right and that's always been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► question though Apple wouldn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► unless they could do the whole screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► they're not gonna do a little notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► thing kind of like people saying apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► not going to put a camera that causes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► bulge but they totally did because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► more worth it to have a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► camera than to make the back of a smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► so camera bulge here to stay and so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► the home pod firmware at leak there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► an icon for d-22 that is just it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► picture of the new iPhone it is it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► icon like a little vector drawing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► whatever other thing but it has to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► like carnac that's let you know by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► looking at this little icon this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► phone we're talking about so if just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► basically like a rounded rectangle I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► imagine for the seven and seven plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► sizes right but this one has the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► in it and it's the only thing in it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► is a rounded rectangle and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► distinguishing characteristic Oh than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► the width and height and the border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► confirmation of that notch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► they're not waffling about whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► give me a notch at this point there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► this this icon is in there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► doesn't seem like they would have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► thing and the codename d-22 is right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► what you expect it to be so this thing's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► gonna have a notch and that's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► and that's it's like the camera bump but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► even worse it's not as bad as touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► on the back but it is a weird thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► do and so you know Apple rumors are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► this this all screen OLED phone has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► in the works for a long time and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► them say it's behind schedule but I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► Apple would have loved to ship it last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► year but they couldn't it wasn't ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► it now it's ready they're going with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► notch so for me from this leak the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► important thing about it is notches it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► go get ready get ready for not you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► ready to love the notch get ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► deal with the notch get ready to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► your application that gets screwed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► when the notches they're also on a press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► conversation about hey they change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► dots to be bars you think they did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► to get make room for the notch I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► and it was like wow maybe but we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► know if this is gonna be a notch well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► it's gonna be a notch so no more dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► back to bars makes perfect sense I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► what I like about this leak though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► that it gives us enough to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► interested in this but there's still so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► much that we don't know that we're only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► going to know once we see the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► running on this phone but we're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► we're almost certainly not going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► before the event so like even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► like leading up to this we we had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► idea of a lot of the major themes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► this device leading up you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► almost the last year in all the rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► and everything but we didn't know many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► specifics and most of the most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► things we that we'd see like leaked or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► rumored or talked about here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► would be very vague and very unsure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► themselves and oftentimes conflicting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► and so now even though this is now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► pretty strong evidence of it being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► certain way and so some of that surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► is now kind of spoiled what we have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► learned you know and again it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► knowledge it's not it isn't the fact it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► isn't a guarantee it's just very strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► but what this you know nearly confirms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► is not something that we is was totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► unknown to us like there were rumors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► all these things there were rumors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► the notch there rumors of the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► detection type stuff and depth cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► and everything like all that stuff what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► was rumored for months and that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► was already becoming the dominant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► becoming like where most of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► were kind of coalescing and gathering so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► it didn't actually spoil much surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► it just kind of like says all right this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► group of the rumors which was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► the predominant ones this is probably on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► the right path but there's still so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► interesting to us and most of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► questions are not going to be answered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► information to like again with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► symbol dumps stuff that we wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► known normally until the keynote because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► is software based right so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► bunch of symbols having to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► apparently the camera detecting what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► is you're taking a picture up you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► taking a picture of person is it a plant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► it is a son is it a sunset is it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► something oh I can tell it's portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► versus landscape as I do simple face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► detection but this was way more detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► my friend a link to put all things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► it was like figuring out in a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► detailed manner what it is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► looking at and what we'll do with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► information besides putting the word hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► dog or not hot dog on the screen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► presumably you can adjust the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► based on what it's looking at I get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► it could metadata tag them or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► I mean who knows but like those symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► are in there for you know and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► all sorts of other stuff about face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► detection where is that the face is half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► covered the face is smiling or frowning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► or like all tons of symbols that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► make sense if if this phone with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► set of sensors on it can figure out way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► more about what it's looking at whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► it's looking at it to take a picture or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► looking at it to unlock your phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► whatever all these symbols indicate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► there surely features somewhere in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► 11 running on this phone that are based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► on the camera having a much richer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► awareness of what's going on around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► also including like presence detection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► information none of that stuff had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► rumored like wow you know we the rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► that oh it's gonna have camera and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► detection unlocking that's all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► that would leak but but the key note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► would be like oh and also now that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► have all those sensors you know we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► do we can know when you take a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► of a dog and tag it with dog and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► this the smart search easier when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► search for dog even if you took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► picture of the tip of the dog's tail we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► you know we figured that out and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► don't like features like that are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► normally we don't get to see until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► day up so I think this is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► biggest software leaks that has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► happened to Apple because I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► reveals potentially so much about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► that they're gonna demo that they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► assumed no one would know about because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► in general the software doesn't leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► this I mean this is this is legal stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► this is a pretty big leak in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► like we didn't mean to put this build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► there by the way people wondering why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► why is this build accessible at all home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► employees and other people who were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► the know have been testing home pods for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► a long time and they have a feed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► software updates but that is a fee that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► is not accessible to the general public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► is only accessible to Apple employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► right someone made a mistake and took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► the firmware that's supposed to go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► that feed it's only accessible to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► employees and put it on the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► facing one and that is a pretty big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► mistake like it's kind of like taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► you know I don't know like iOS 11 before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► any of the betas came out and putting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► on a publicly accessible URL on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► Internet and again it's security through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► accessible Internet as long as no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► knows the URL it's like people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3058">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► randomly typing in URLs to guess where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► your thing might be that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► they're doing and that you are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► guessable because you just replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► word TV with the word audio in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► existing URL for the TV OS updates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► guess what you got this and somebody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► a really bad day at Apple and I feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► because you know it's you're human you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► make mistakes it just goes to show all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► the security and all these billions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► dollars they spend you know it's not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► don't think there's some malicious just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► someone someone made a mistake we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► like a snake sometimes you leave a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► in a bar sometimes sometimes you upload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► the the unredacted version of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► iOS that includes all the secret symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► for your new super secret phone onto a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► public URL and so I feel I feel kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► bad but I'm also kind of excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► exactly how much we were able to mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► out of this and like Margot said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► still and still we're not sure still we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► have to wait for the keynote to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► which things are which it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► little bit of spoiling Christmas morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► to know how you know because I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► extrapolate so many things that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► possibly be there and the keynote will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► just be a narrowing but still pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► exciting do you um I don't have the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► handy but there maybe it was now ins I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► don't think it was though but anyways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► there was someone who was critiquing no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► was a different UI designer critiquing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► what do you do with the knotch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► there's like one of the approaches he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► approaches is you pretend the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► isn't really there and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► approaches is you embrace the knotch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► I think it was Steve trout and Smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► that was saying oh I say embrace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► notch you know make it visible make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► plain but from what I see on like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► example Alan's post where it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► big black bar and presumably this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► OLED so it would just kind of all blend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► in and there would just be this big gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► in the center of the black bar but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► wouldn't necessarily be able to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► very well what was there I think I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► that at a glance more than this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► embrace the notch make it white to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► left and the right of the knotch what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► you guys think about that let's start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► I think the design that makes the parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► left and right of the not just black it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► makes it look like a big status bar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► and to me is by far the best-looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► and that is the one matter I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► should and hopefully will do but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► is there is a risk I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► a big risk there's a risk that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► desire to have these like over these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► like overflow areas these over scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► areas in the UI some wonder how like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► know when I was seven ever since I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► seven you've had like if you have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► navigation bar or a tool bar in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► interface you could you have like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► blurred version of the scroll view in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► the middle kind of under hanging though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► like the top and bottom like it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► overflowed in those areas as you scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► I can see maybe the Apple UI designers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► wanting to do more of that with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► newfound screen real estate and to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► the to have these new areas both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► little tabs next to the status bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► also the new like presumed home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► area at the bottom I could see those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► becoming just over scroll areas but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► hope they don't do that I hope if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► anything if they want to do that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► make at the bottom one and not little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► tabs on top because having this big like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► you know file card shaped UI I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► looks weird I don't like having those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► two tabs at the top be visibly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► light-colored UI I think it should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► look like a big status bar and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► shouldn't even really really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► think about the notch most of the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► agree so as I think it was Steve drought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► and Smith pointed this out but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► as well the thing that we extracted we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► the thing that has been extracted by an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► industrious hackers from the firmware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► an icon of the phone and it's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► to be identifiable so you look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► you know oh they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► whatever the iPhone Pro or the iPhone 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► or wherever this thing's gonna be called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► so it needs to be a recognizable symbol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► distinguishing feature of that icon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► so for in order to be able to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► that and say oh that means my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► which is the purpose of the icon that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► knotch has to be a distinguishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► visible cat or visual characteristics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► the phone as far as the users are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► concerned otherwise that icon is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► useful for identifying it so that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► be as simple as okay well it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► describing when you use it like it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► pretend it's not there and just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► for example when we show your big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► lockscreen picture that shows with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► notch all the time because that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► experience of turning on the phone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► know we're seeing the lock screen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► whatever that oh it's got a notch right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► if the knotch goes away when you launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► apps you still recognize it as the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► with the notch because that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► see when you first turn it on but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► embracing the notch to the degree to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► degree that this icon is representative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► it doesn't mean you're gonna see it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► whole time you're using it inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► applications but it does mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► they're embracing it somewhere probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► springboard maybe also I mean I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► to think of you know if developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► wanted to could they addressed it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► like overflow video bleeped like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► knows how far it availables would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► able to go but it seems clear to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► Apple in the same way they essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► embrace the camera by saying we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► hiding it it's there it's a camera bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► look at it there's gonna be a notch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► I think there has to be at least some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► context where the notch is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► distinguishing characteristic to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► I also would prefer like both of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► alright fine I see the notch I get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► branding I can identify my phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► once I'm using the application don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► know I know I don't need it doesn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► hopefully that's up to developers if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► developers want to do something fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► with the notch maybe they can and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► same way you can mess with the status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► bar in weird ways to varying degrees and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► although I couldn't change the color of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► the status bar to anything you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► back in the old days and they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► clamped down on that no you could never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► you could have it be like white or black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► but you could never have it be arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► colors you could have a translucent one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► and kind of put like a window behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► you know to make it kind of fake to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► of fake it but I don't know of any apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► that really ever did that with any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► success yeah and I actually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► either way they go with this I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► bottom part of the screen is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► more interesting that gets into what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► Allen Pike was talking about so the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► line we assume it's a status bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► there's some interesting things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► do by you know getting you know going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► bleeding the pixels up higher on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► screen because this it's almost edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► edge especially if you incorporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► dodging to the status bar but the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► happens down at the bottom where all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► a sudden you've got all the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► where there used to be a hardware home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► button and of course you can draw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► software home button there but you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► got all this other space where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► draw things to what might you use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► for and one of Allen Pike suggestions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► take your UI navbar wherever that class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► and take the current awkward arrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► with lots of white space and take those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► navigation controls like done or edit or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► whatever those little words that are up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► in the corner that are hard to reach in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► your big phone and shove them down next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► to the home button because now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► all a screen and it's actually easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► reach there's been a lot of articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► recently about how it's easier to reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► the bottom of your really big phone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► your thumb the top of the really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► phone so bottom navigation becomes more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► preferable than it was back in the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► of the original iPhone size or even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► 5 size and it makes a lot of sense like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► whether they do that or not you look up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► and you go oh ok well that would work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► and it would make sense based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► design we currently see in iOS 11 betas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► but maybe they won't do that maybe what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► can you do with the bottom you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► lot of pixels down there apples is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► surely gonna reserve some of them for OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► related functions in in the sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► default case where you don't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► you know a full bleed video or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► you could do interesting stuff down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► there instead of just showing a circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► where you put your thumb presumably to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► may or may not be buried under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► screen yeah it's funny because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► like we have learned a lot in this leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► but I think you guys are right that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► don't know that we've learned all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► much but we've more gotten some soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► confirmation of a lot of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► were already suspected and though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► still think this is the second biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► compared to the what was at the iPhone 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► that was found in the bar yep so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► that still takes the cake for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► biggest leak but man this is a close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► second and and it's fascinating like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► developers like the developers within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► Apple that have been working on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► stuff and have been really sweating this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► and and we're hoping for the big splash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► surprise like that article was I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► was that article that float floated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► around a like a month ago that talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► about this but any or but or maybe was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► what was it doesn't matter somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► they were saying you know really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► it's a bummer for the employees when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► something leaks the other employees and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► that kind of stinks but I do think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► fascinating and super cool how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► developers in particular have been able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► to kind of figure out all of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► just by going spelunking into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► firmware and I should have expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► something like this from a man with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► surname of Rambo I mean this is how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► this is how the Rambo's work right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► that's what we learned from the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► before and I just got from the firmware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► but like it's interesting to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► with home pod we reverted to the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► nomenclature is back on the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► iPhone the iPhone came with firmware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► because the phone phones don't run OS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► silly its firmware right I'm obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► that's before you know it was called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► iPhone OS after that I believe and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► it switched to iOS right but now on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► home pod because it's so we'll see and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► doesn't have a screen even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► they've extracted a screen resolution as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► far as iOS is concerned a very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► screen resolution and potentially an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► humble number of addressable LEDs blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► blah blah anyway now it's back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► firmware it's like it's called you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► the reason I got this in the URLs they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► change TV OS to audio uh so if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► to give it a name TV OS runs on Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► I owe s runs on you know iPhones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► iPods and iPads and audio us runs on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► home pod but we don't call it audio as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► it's still it's stuck in from I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► you got a starting firmware and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► your way up do we start referring you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► your actual OS update yeah that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► little bit weird I guess I want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► it seem like an embedded things also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► case you were wondering about the Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► echo show and the potential we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► many times of Apple's home thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► sits in your home having a screen on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► naming the thing audio s obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► doesn't nothing because you can rename [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► or whatever you want they renamed their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► rests all the time but it's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► strong stake in the ground of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► product or this product we already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► but like in case you're wondering do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► they expect the operating system to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► lot of displaying of pictures no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► called audio OS like whether or not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► has a screen that can show weird symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► or an addressable grid of LEDs under a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► diffuser or whatever the OS is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► audio any other thoughts about all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► not really sure there's stuff that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► forgot to put in the notes but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► there was so much so much stuff that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► leaked and so many people digging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► this that I couldn't even keep up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► it yeah I feel like this should be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► a four hour conversation for us but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► really feel like we've we've kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► touched on all of it so well and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► like I mean as Parker said before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► everything that's in this leak have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► discussed before with the exception of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► few additional symbols that lean towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► features that hadn't been you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► could have been imagined but that hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► been thought about you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► camera understanding was taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► picture of and adjusting things but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► can extrapolate that from the sensors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► and it shows how imagination plus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► usual hardware supply chain leaks can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► get us most of the way there anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► edge-to-edge we've also known forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► face detection was a big leak and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► IR a sensor isn't like that how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► support it touch a D in the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► versus the back is still up in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► nothing in this it goes one way or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► other I think and then the home pod leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► would just nail all that dying for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► but we were already talking about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► those things like I feel bad for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► employees blah blah blah well if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► we'd all be watching that keynote saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► I can't wait to see the OLED phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► does face recognition with the next ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► cream potentially with a notch in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► like we were already there it's just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/3801">TS</a>]
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01:10:16 ◼ ► know like quick looking on a video or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► something was like open this in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► movies or something like that instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► open in iTunes right it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► string for a dialog box thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► opened it in one of Apple's incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► boring Lee named applications like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► there's no more iTunes now we have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► application called podcasts and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► application called music and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► totally what Apple would do was their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► super boring games anyway that's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► we all know something like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► coming and you're right getting rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► the iPods does does help it what if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► what if they pull a planet of the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► and they call every single one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► new apps Apple music yeah that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► make just as much sense as this TV shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► on Apple music well they did call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► Audio os2 they have they always have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► every time they solve solve a naming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► stupid capitalization of all the row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► asses to be worse uniformly worse then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► they make a new crisis of naming which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► is like you no audio OS and Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► with TV shows on it but they'll sort it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► out yeah so I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► timeline is and those things seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► a lot to bite off but I'm you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► though it is totally fine to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► the iPods like their time has come there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► are still people who miss things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► them and you know not that I miss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► products specifically about I miss Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► being in that market so what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► mark are we talking about well a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► people have been running about missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► the shuffle because it's just so darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► small and some people don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► strap a phone to them and like oh I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► got an Apple watch that's the the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► is the new shuffle right you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► know you just wear your watch and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► so much more than the shuffle does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► shuffle is kind of like being in some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► the same markets is Fitbit and make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► incredibly cheap thing that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► mind too much when you put it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► the washing machine does one simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► thing well now that it has them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► shuffle a long time it's that one simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► thing not really well because getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► music on it was super pain but imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► something that was similar form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► and price to the iPod shuffle but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► never needed to connect the iTunes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► they did everything wirelessly and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► sync with all your music and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► like people would buy that for 50 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► Apple doesn't want to be in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► to sell you that little Terrier 50 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► like they've stayed in it a lot longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► manufacture those things now but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► kind of a shame that Apple doesn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► to go that far down they just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► sell you glass rectangles of varying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► sizes the smallest one they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► make so far it's gonna be on your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► that's probably great for everybody but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► the Apple watch is not the same market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► as 50 dollar piece of crap electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► thing that you just clip on to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► clothes that is you know incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► lightweight and that has access to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► of your music like effortlessly so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► hope to see like the return of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► shuffle like if Apple if the Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► used to be successful five years from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► now or whatever you know the watch gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► super cheap and travels down to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► segment or some other you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► other things some other sort of you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► find it in a box of cereal incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► cheap don't really worry about it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► much but also incredibly light and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► empowered by Apple's sort of ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► like all the stuff they have all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► your podcasts or music and you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► the clouds stuff I mean talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► having cellular to the Apple watch which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► we talked about many years ago as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► inevitability you know a tiny iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► shuffle that has access to your entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► it also has cell access that cost 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► bucks like I would love that product in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► 10-15 years so I hope not that the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► comes back but that form-factor come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► back and that Apple doesn't rosanna it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► doesn't continue to travel up market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► without remembering they can also extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► down market as well I think ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► the the biggest problem and probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► reason why this was killed and why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► doesn't exist you know it hops us Krantz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► I major let me let him in so I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► tough love I ferberize my dog he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► whining out there she's whining out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► there and you know I just just wait it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► out eventually you know we put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► airplane mode what does that even mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► don't want to make fun of you so badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► for that but that is genius all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► I think one of the reasons why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► killed the iPods now and and why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► John your hope for a shuffle is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► futile is that my 15 years come on cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► me a break here but like I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► first of all I have own shuffles my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► first I think my first two iPods were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► shuffles and I was not as big of a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► but I think that the big problem now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► and one of the reasons why they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► probably do this now and kill all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► iPods now is I think it's easy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► people like like us basically old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► computer nerds to overestimate how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► people actually still maintain their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► music collections you know these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► streaming is so popular it is it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► default of what everyone does so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► people either never built up a music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► collection or have abandoned it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► years ago for streaming services that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► think the whole idea of a music player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► that you sink a collection of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► DRM free locally stored files that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► - this music player and bring it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► you somewhere I think that whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► has had it today and is done and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► think it's coming back that's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► do the form factor I said it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► to have cell access and have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► the cloud stuff that includes Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► music that includes Spotify well then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► that's that's that's a cellular Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► watch basically and and there they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► be allegedly making right but it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► watch it's not a watch and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► gonna be $300 like a $50 thing then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► a phone you can connect all your cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► stuff to and your podcasts which aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► the same as you know you could stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► your podcast that's fine but yourself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► know what podcast you subscribe do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► anyway all the existing cloud stuff the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► existing cloud stuff is Apple music you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► know iTunes Match your iCloud music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► library your podcasts Spotify everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► all those ecosystems even if it just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► like okay like the watch does now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► well the watch can't get there by itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► but it can go on Wi-Fi and it can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► to your phone or whatever they the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► something that's 50 bucks that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► regardless of how you do this they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► technologically do what I'm describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► right now cuz it would cost more than 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► bucks and the $50 thing they have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► sucks because it's so hard to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► music onto it and it's so hard to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► right so I'm just hoping they come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► to that when technology catches up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► hope they don't say well you got to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► a watch in the watch out we starts at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► $1.99 like it never goes below that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► because you know Apple and prices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► was keep going up market I hope I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► they extend back down because kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► the iPod accidentally ended up 50 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► or whatever the shuffles bar because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► first shuffle was $1.99 or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► 820 just so happen I think yeah like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► a rare case of it becoming cheaper or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► cheaper to make this type of thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► just so happened that the price dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► down and people didn't care about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► you know it's one of those cases where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► couldn't fight against the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► this thing was incredibly cheap to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► I wonder how much the shuffle that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► were selling for whatever they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► selling for actually cost them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► manufacture the margins were probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► big but they probably sold nine months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► um but that's what's happening with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► electronics that's why the watch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► eventually you can do that that fits in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► that form factor and in that price that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► will eventually happen for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► like a shuffle and so I hope when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► does happen that Apple revisits that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► especially as they expand out there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► like they're doing it but the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► diversifying the phone to make a big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► they're small and now they're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► a big one a small and and a medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► expensive one like this always room like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► they were said they're not gonna leave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► it's just that Apple loves to go upwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► like how we make it even more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► Foam let's make a bigger net 100 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► let's make it all glass another hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► bucks like that's it's totally Apple way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► to do and that's great they should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► that they should also make a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► potentially buy but the other direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► like don't just accidentally land there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► revisited and you know in many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► when you can make the shuffle that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► describing because I think they can sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► a lot of those things enough that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► make it worth their while and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► people do like them they don't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► old shuffle because now is out outdated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► but if they made a new one that did all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► that stuff a lot of people about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► say there's mostly because I see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► with fit bits which fitbit's would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► almost nothing and a junkie and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► put through the washer all the time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► I see a ton of them so I think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► you know there is a there is a market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► for so cheap you don't worry about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► wearables that do something useful yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► there is in general but I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► a lot more of that in the fitness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► community than there is in the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► playback market like it you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► when you're looking at just having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► small audio player the shuffle did make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► sense for a while too as a thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► in life again I will stand by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► that it was never good but but it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► made sense to exist in cell and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► fine for certain uses but now you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► you're starting from a place where by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► default you assume everyone has a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► and then so you're what you're saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► basically like or like the the case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► a shuffle would have to make is not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► need some of the complete music on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► go because your phone is that thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► effectively free for you like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► additional cost for you to have music on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► the go you already have that with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► phone and so now it's well if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► to buy something else something smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► that you can clip onto your body maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► because of certain types of workouts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► that you do like running where you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► want to strap a phone to you or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► well then their answer is the watch then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► their answer as well if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► these things we already have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► small that completely you can clip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► your body it's better than anything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► better than any shuffle ever made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► because it you don't have to clip it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► some part of your clothing you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► strap on your wrist in a location that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► people are totally fine wearing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► most of the time and it doesn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► don't you there's no wires you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► plug a wire into even if you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► so you don't have a headphone wire they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► have to route somewhere along your arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► or strap it down or through your shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► anything like that you can just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► bluetooth you don't have to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► the air pods right exactly and so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► the shuffle would do that too yes but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► you're saying like Apple should sell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► small inexpensive wearable device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► you can sync music to in a modern way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► that can run modern apps and modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► streaming services and can stream things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► to bluetooth that's smaller than a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► they do it's called the Apple watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► I don't think it's ever gonna get down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► to 50 bucks I already said that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► they could if the way they can get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► that market is they're making a fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► but if they never want the Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► to go down to 50 bucks what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► is there's still place when to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► something like that if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► they'll put this way if they don't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► in a Fitbit is still in business Fitbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► will make this because Fitbit already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► sells you something that is small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► lightweight cheap that does less than an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► Apple watch and eventually if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► sell something at that price and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► doesn't then Fitbit will in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► that Fitbit will sell a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► counts your steps it's much cheaper than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► an Apple watch and Apple thus far can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► make an Apple watch that's cheap because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► it's too complicated right so they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► you know I'm just saying like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► don't leave this market out and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► saying not to do it with the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► because thus far Apple has made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► addition days are behind us but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► still making the ceramic ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► they're all about fashion and fanciness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► it seems to me that there is less of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► appetite to bring the Apple watch down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► to 50 bucks even if they can technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► so that leaves the room for if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► don't want to do that and if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► want Fitbit to sell that thing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► room to bring back something like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► essentially it just an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► without a strap and maybe without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► screen on it even if you want to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► super cheap I think we can all agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► though that no one is crying for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► iPod Nano yeah and and that was so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► long past yeah my first Apple products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► if memory serves were the original iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► shuffle that looked like a stick of gum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► or pack of gum I guess I should say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► then following that an iPod Nano the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► that was really easy to scratch the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► class-action lawsuit or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► scratch the front not the back the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► what's the front okay yeah right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► either way those were my first two Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► products so I think I have a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► reaction to every one or a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► which is well that that kind of sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► but no actually it doesn't because who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► really buying these anymore anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► yeah and they also do we already did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► already mention that the capacity bumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► the iPod Touch as well which is nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► cares I know you know is even worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4975">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► I have my phone I see users now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► been so lucky that's why I had to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► it like it was just fall you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► getting a phone cuz I was gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► phone but like they you know updated in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► capacities but left the price is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► same but it's still overpriced like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► problem like it's not it's not super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► expensive but for what's in it like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► find it hard to recommend that product I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► suppose if you want to get something for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► your kid and it's still cheaper than an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► iPad right but I find it really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► recommend that product at the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► price and capabilities if they want if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► they don't want to can the iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► which apparently they don't want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► because it could have just canned it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► they need to get it on they need to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► a slightly better upgrade cycle I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► guess they're not motivated to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► because you know it's it's uh it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► the Mac Mini of the iOS line it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► well it's the product exists in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► lineup and people do buy it and it fills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► a role but we're not killing ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► to make a new one so it's got what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5038">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► got the a8 in it now like when the a12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► is out can we update the iPod touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► again you know a capacity bump like come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► on I just if you're gonna have it may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► updated every once in a while that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► I'm saying it's also interesting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► how it fits now in the lineup you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► first so you have the iPod touch at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► 200 bucks even is that the base yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► think so then you have at 3:29 the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► cheap iPad it seems like you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► way more exactly you get way more with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► and then at 400 you have the iPhone se [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► which if you still want a small device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► that is you're getting way more for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► iPhone se than you are with an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► Touch of 200 now granted that's I've now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► doubled the price but like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► any discussion of what the iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► should or shouldn't have or should or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► shouldn't be updated or how it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► priced has to also then consider how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► inexpensive iOS devices yeah I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► is kind of you know people sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► all the real iPods are on the iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► was never really an iPod it was an iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► a name only but now it is it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► filling the role of the iPod because why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► in the world would like so you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► get a kid you know it's get a kid so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► then I can have a phone you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► to this kid doesn't have a cell number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► this kid is 6 years old right you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► to get them an iOS device you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► get that kid that iPad right unless what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► the kid actually wants is a music player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► because the iPad is not a great music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► player to carry around with you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► school or whatever like say the kid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► you know 11 or 12 and maybe just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► have fun yet right parents will want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► pay for a cell data plan so I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► any kind of iPhone is out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► they're not paying for a cell data plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► it's a waste to buy an iPhone and pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► that extra Spencer or something it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► gonna be a phone but a kid would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► rather have it an iPad to watch YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► unless they want to carry it around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► school and listen to music or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► they would run with it or you know take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► it with them to camp or whatever it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► music player as the only the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► everything else about is a disadvantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► like because the price is too close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► the to the cheap iPad it's really slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► the storage capacity so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► weird the iPod Touch just now is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► actually living up to its iPod name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► existence in any sensible thing is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► fill the role of a non phone thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► you can also get access to all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► you know and I suppose text messages if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► you have Wi-Fi but it is more iPod like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► than has ever been before which is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► of depressing because it you know as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► pointed out many times was once the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► fastest iPhone iOS device you could buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► for a brief moment in time those days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► are long gone that was John's favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► brief moment in time that's what I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► like a part of the probably a big part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► of the market for the iPod Touch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► addition to being eaten alive by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► low-end iPad has probably also been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► by the increasing numbers of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► just give old iPhones to kids like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► I now know a bunch of parents of young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► children in like that that had age range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► where like they could have an iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► but you don't want to give them a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► one and I don't know any of them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► have an iPod Touch they're all using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► their parents old iPhones it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► like iPhone 4s and stuff like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► that of that age range or maybe an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► iPhone five like they're all using those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► and so like granted not everybody keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► their all devices a lot of people trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► them in or sell them to help fund the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► new ones but I've had a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► who want it who have you know children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► of this age range they just give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► what is that what they already have in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► drawer somewhere which is a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► old iPhone okay maybe a little but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► trying to think of why didn't we do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► with our kids I mean from the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► was because yeah I had the old iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► Touches in them but we actually did buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► two brand-new iPod Touches it when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► ran out of my old supply of iPod Touches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► something that was better and faster you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► know that my old iPod Touches for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► crappy for them which they really were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► at that point we had the choice we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► have said well why don't we take you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► know the old iPhone for us and give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► to one of the kids or we could just buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► a brand new iPod Touch and we ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► buying a new iPod touch you know twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► we did that for a variety of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► you know because it was cheap because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► it's new because the battery will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► fresh all the kind of reasons you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► that you might so it's for us when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► had access to both of them you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► could have gone either way on it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► don't think it's always a slam dunk but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► you know it depends on it depends on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► often you upgrade your phones if y'all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► read your phone every year you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► much greater supply of reasonable ish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► iPhones to go through something also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► some people might want to resell their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► iPhones like if you do upgrade every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► year you can get some good money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► reselling your iPhone and maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► makes up the cost of the iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► anyway I'm sure they're not selling too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► many of these but they don't gonna break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► that out for us but they did keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► around just like the Mac Mini so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► iPod Touch Deathwatch begins now oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► goodness and speaking of death watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► flash is on the verge of dead like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► real for real pleasure this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► one of those things where the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► making flash yeah I could tell they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► still making flash because I still come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► across websites that require flash or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► don't work right or complain that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► version of Flash is updated I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► still really what is what is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► website why do you want me to have flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► I just want to see some video what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► century are we in but the reason this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► a story is because Adobe the makers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► flash are saying we're not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► that anymore okay so finally like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► have no choice people who continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► make websites with flash soon you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► not be able to get flash our Flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► plugin that works in modern browsers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► because Adobe is not going to spend more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► time developing it and blah blah blah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► truly only Adobe could really ever kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► flash because if they continued to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► it and sell it as again a product in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► their lineup some people buy it and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► it and force you to have it for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► web sites and those are bad people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► so I'm glad Dobies putting it into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► how do you really feel thanks to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► Squarespace and audible and we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► you next week now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► they didn't even mean to begin as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► research Marco and Casey wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► notes at a s ey l is s so that's K [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► sealless and a are Co AR m and T Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► so John how was your big vacation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► really want to hear more about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► the same as it always is I always go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► down to Long Island for it's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► just a week this time it was almost two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► weeks because reasons and we took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► dog with us this time we've gone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► there with dog before but that was our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► other dog and he was much better behaved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► than this little monster well she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► still a puppy though yeah she was much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► older dog but we survived we had pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► okay weather took a lot of pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► filled up a lot of memory cards filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► up my wife's iMac we came back home she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► got that warning that Ohio s will give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► you that says your disc is running low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► in space which is never good worrying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► get because Mac OS like so many UNIX is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► before it does not behave well when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► runs out of disk space things get very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► bad very quickly so I had to come home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► and well I try to delete a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► pictures but then you got to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► recently deleted and delete them and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► know I do I did as much picture deleting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► Isaac oh but the bottom line is pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► essentially you know you just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► taking more of them and you don't delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► the old ones and there have been more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► worthless into leaving them than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► have in the past not just out of focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► or bad ones but just like you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► deleting everything except for the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► I think are decent but then I have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► through her computer and delete a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► of other stuff too so polla just can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► menteur EXI look for alternatives I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► there's a bunch of alternatives that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► people like people like dayz disk grande [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► perspective is a discriminatory acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► look-alike type program space gremlin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► my favorite oh I don't know about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► one I got checked going up it's fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► hideous but it's pretty functional I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► like the the tree map view of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► rectangle I liked disconfort inventory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► axis I'm concerned that it's not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► maintained and it sometimes does some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► weird stuff that bothers me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► so that's why I just download a grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► perspective but anyway if you've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► used one of these programs or omni just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► sweeper or Daisy disk whatever whichever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► one you want when you're trying to free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► up disk space this is the way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► get a program that will show you somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► all the stuff that's on your disk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► find the big things and don't spend a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► year going through a million tiny files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► to fair what to delete delete like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► so deleted a bunch of games from Steam I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► moved my iTunes backups to a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► volume yes speaking of things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► safely delete with this new modern age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► I tuned zdevice backups are huge most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► people have no idea that they're even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► still keeping those if they don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► them anymore and they take up tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► disk space so that's a number one hit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► like you've got to get rid of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► developer Xcode keeps around all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► of support files for old simulators and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► old devices that you probably don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► the Xcode developer directory is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► a great source of clearing out stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► yeah I still keep the iTunes device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► backups just because it's is still even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► with the crappiness of iTunes slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► the fastest and most convenient way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► restore like a kids a device that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► totally hosed so I keep them around I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► didn't want to leave them all I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► need to obviously all the old ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► for device that I'm using abroad just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► move them to a different volume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► isn't backed up they don't like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► lose them oh well these are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► devices are all backed up the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► right so I just have local iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► backups you know it's just convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► passwords though I think they added that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► to the iCloud backups - now didn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► anyway more backups is good so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► want to delete them I just moved them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► what else did I delete well the trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► now is so if you want the password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► doesn't have to be saved they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► excluded from from iCloud backups but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► iCloud keychain now exists so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► official the official word of like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► you're supposed to do this is to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► iCloud keychain also in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► iCloud backups and then you will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► those things work so that saves a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► spend up freeing up like 130 gigs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► something which gave me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► more breathing room but it's that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► look at the disk inventory acts like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► giant rectangle picture and it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► huge rectangle that is my photo library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► and there's a little skinny row with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► bunch of tiny little things that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5698">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► everything else on the system and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► can you do like I got the biggest you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► know it's a one terabyte drive and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► iMac and that's the time we moved you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► external drive to an internal one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► obviously to have everything in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► volume before I have this even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► complicated backup scheme where I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► you know her internal drive on her old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► computer but then also my external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► and then you had to do like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► doubles the amount of backup headaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► that you have to do and I like having it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► all one but at this point you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► we replaced this iMac I'm gonna get her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► one with a two terabyte disk or gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► move the iPhoto library to my Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► with the 4 terabyte internal SSD where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► the hell are going to get in my fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► world that's actually that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► non not crazy way to do it like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► the little hacks I've recently decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► to try was I have you know my iMac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► then a laptop and they have one terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► each cuz that was like the most fecund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► iMac at the time and so I got that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► I'm pushing that so like on the iMac a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5758">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► couple of years ago now I bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► little external Samsung SSD too and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► moved over it's very very easy to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► iTunes and Apple photos store their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► giant libraries anywhere else like on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► external driver and it's very easy to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► that you'd like you don't have to do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► kind of weird symlink trick or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► you can just tell it I'm now moving this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► here and and it just works and both for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► both photos and iTunes and so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► because there's such big things for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► people does you know that's like number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► one hit rate to move but one thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► started doing now with photos is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► signed it so I have this Mac Mini server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► at home it's like a little home utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► server among other things that usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► runs the live stream for this show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► also hosts a giant ice cozy volume on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► honestly recommend doing ice Guzzi it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► too much of a pain if I were starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► fresh today I wouldn't do it but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► would do is just plug in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► giant external hard drives to that Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► Mini which would serve the same function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► so anyway so I have this Mac Mini that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► thinks it has a whole bunch of locally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► attached storage so one thing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► started doing now is I signed in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► photos app on that Mac Mini and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► having it keep a local copy of a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► percent quality of everything so now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► can safely if I want to I'm not sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► I will but if I want to now I can I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► have future computers not keep my entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► photo library on them and therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► maybe I don't need to buy the giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► now maybe I could get quote only the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► or two terabyte SSDs built-in so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► now because I have this other of Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► press other Mac Mini in my house that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► keeping a full resolution copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► everything locally and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► third option is you could just trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► cloud backup I don't like that option so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► I still have this thing locally I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► have everything locally like it in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► house but it's hard to you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► once as you said John like once you add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► you're basically gonna keep paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► that storage forever like you know every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► computer you buy you're gonna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► get the bigger and bigger disk each time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► and you're gonna have to keep paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► that giant has--is D tax over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► and over again every time you buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► computer so one way to solve it is see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► if there's some kind of clever way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► can use other or different or cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► hard drive space in your house and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► for me having the Mac Mini signed into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► Photos app and having having that down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► all the originals then frees up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► other computers to have it do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► optimized storage thing and so yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► that's one option this could be crazy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► don't know but it seemed reasonable when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► I set it up no I mean I did the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► thing I have another Mac that signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► Emily one terabyte disk you know thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► is I just don't like in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► that raid is not a backup solution I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► don't consider that a backup like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► good to have it but I would never turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► on up to my storage on my iMac because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► need one canonical location that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► that backed up the old-fashioned way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► know three times the time machine to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5938">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► separate disks cloud backup and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► super-duper clone like the photos are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► the most important thing that I backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► so I bought them in more places not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► fewer so I never I'm never gonna uncheck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► I'm never gonna check that off to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► storage box even though like I did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► that's what I did in vacation I took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► laptop with me on vacation with the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► terabyte drive right and so I'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► the pictures signed into the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► account my wife's account like I made on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► this laptop and I'm doing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► pictures there and doing all the edits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► favoriting and doing all this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► then I come back home and the whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► I'm leaving my laptop open all night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► long I like to upload you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► iCloud photo stuff right and then I come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► home and look at her iMac and there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► the pictures all the edits that I did on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► vacation are basically there except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► a few stragglers and then I leave both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► computers like on and connected to Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► for a couple you know for like eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► hours to make sure okay guys we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► point my photos are only on the laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► like I've had to overwrite I brought two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► SD cards with me but I had to overwrite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► one of them right so I don't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► the SD cards as the backup photos are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► only on the laptop and the laptop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► pushing out to the cloud and then I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► them to be pulled down from the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► canonical computer which is the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► normally after I'm a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► sure that no one is doing me syncing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► everyone is all in the same page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► everyone's got all the original quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► images on two computers and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► backed up a hundred times only then can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► I turn on up to my storage on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► laptop or more likely I'm just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► you know delete that account on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► laptop whatever because there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► temporary thing but I'm really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► thing with Mac Mini I would love to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► a solution like that if I had the disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► space and another Mac to throw at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► but in general I don't I want my backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► my backups to use different software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► than the regular functioning of stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► think for a while I also had it on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► Mac on my Mac Pro the same thing without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► in my storage on but not to my storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► is to to blunt of an instrument like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► wanted to I want some control over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► optimized storage I don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► like will almost feel you're just giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► back off I would love to say optimized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► storage and never get bigger than X size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► right or so I don't know something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► let me have more control or like keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► the originals for the last X months or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► years yeah for that you can start our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► coven you know stuff like that but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► to clarify by the way that Mac Mini that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► hosts this full size library that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► everything it has is also back up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► Backblaze yeah so there were always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► people in chat asking so I figured let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► me save myself a week of email just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► yeah that's why it's I scuzzy speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► at that place doesn't do network discs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► so you need you know direct attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► yeah and I have a feeling I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► photos dot app would appreciate being on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► a network disk either anyway yeah if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► were starting over honestly if I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► starting over today with like large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► stories like this I would not get an ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► I would just get I would just have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► have another Mac somewhere or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► computer somewhere in your house that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► you know small speck inexpensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► just plug in a few large external hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► because and and then because then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6118">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► can have things like Backblaze backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► I have found that I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► unlike Casey like Casey you you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► crazy cool features of the Nast like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► with its built-in apps I use none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► them in practice like i the the Nass to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► me is just a giant external hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► box you don't even use Plex on it no I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► use Plex on that Mac Mini actually yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► that's the same setup I have on my iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► so I don't use Plex on the device but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► mean I don't really do that much with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► the Synology although I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► surprised that you don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► Synology hosting a VPN for you so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► can like easily get to any device on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► your network and force all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► things to be uploaded you know yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► Internet because it just it's a peace of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► network-attached start like you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► reach I can't reach it no one can reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► it from the internet I feel better that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► way I don't have any access to my home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► anything like you know any kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► dynamic DNS thing or any kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► forwarded screen sharing or VNC I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► no access to my home network anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► want to do that I don't want to access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► when I'm out on the go I have to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► access it through sync services like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► Dropbox or if I really need something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► can pull a file off a back plays but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► that's it all right is that good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► after sure what was I gonna say one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► thing about my setup that I was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► say so John I guess your vacation how'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► your vacation go here's all the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► I mean you know my vacation is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► for the kids and everyone to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► beach and hang out and you know me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► taking care of the dog this time is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► little bit of added hassle and stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► and lots of waking up early but I take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► lot of pictures like it you know I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► well I brought both cameras cuz you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► gotta have a backups but I just used my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► new Sony camera didn't even use my super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► zoom at all super zoom was just there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► case I dropped the Sony in the ocean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► successfully did not drop it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► ocean once again I brought a new zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► lens for it which is longer zoom but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► crappier lens but it was cheap then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► used last time and it was alright I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► most of the lenses I brought with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► it's a lot took lots of pictures got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► some good ones but that's a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► beautification series I take a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► pictures and then I edit them and mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► with them and post a couple Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► in general I don't post pictures of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► pictures of my relatives who don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► to be featured on my Instagram and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► really don't post most pictures of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► family alone now that my kids are older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► I post a few pictures of them here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► there but yeah this is my the heaviest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► photography time of the year most if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► look at when the most pictures taken by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► far it's these one or two weeks that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► long I will come home from the ocean one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► obviously I'm not keeping all posts I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► deleting a lot of them but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► it looks like secret to good photography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► as far as I've been able to determine so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► far take a huge number of pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► then delete most of them yeah the secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► to give a target for you is lots of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► photography yeah so I'm definitely doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► that what else that lens wise yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► still don't have a really good zoom that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► I like because good zooms are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► expensive and really heavy and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6298">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► I'm just resigned to the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► will you know the smaller and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► my my 50 millimeter prime is still my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► favorite lens but that's not gonna cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► it at the ocean and so as you as I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► more flexible the image quality goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► down and the size and weight go up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► I've mostly accepted that but I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► it's a pretty happy with my camera got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► lot of good shots out of it and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► said didn't drop it in the ocean so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► that's key yeah I mean they're basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► there is no good zoom like there every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► zoom is is a giant compromise and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► compromising image quality severely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► order to get something reasonably sized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► and reasonably inexpensive or you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► having really great image quality but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► then the thing is massive and probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► pretty small zoom range and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► very expensive like it's you can't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► it's just impossible to make a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► zoom lens that has a large range and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► reasonably priced and it's reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► small you just can't do it well in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► brief dog story so I've been training uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► to come one called like on you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► in adverse conditions when you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► want it to happen like for example when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► all the other dogs in the Dog Fart run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► to the mud puddle and get covered head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► to toe in you know muddy water right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► literally changes the colour of the dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► and you don't want your or do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► that's the time when you want to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► every dog wants to go to the nub bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► they all start hitting there and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► orders like no that's when you need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► come one called thing to actually work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► I call my dad today I used that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► today today yesterday exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► happened you know I told her to come she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► but I found limits to that on vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► because she was out in the backyard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► we let her loose for a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► she's wandering around usually where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► does the Sun rabbit turds and eat them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► well this time okay but this time she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► found a dead bird and I didn't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► she had found I started getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► something and I called her to come over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► and she comes running towards me she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► gets about three inches from my hand or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6417">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► I'm about to like grab her collar and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► see the wing of the dead birds think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► significant bird that's in her mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► that's like you know and she gets close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► to me and she sees that I'm gonna reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► for the collar and she's like I'm out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► turns the other direction runs away as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► fast as she can I run after his front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► yard like I run after her I eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► catch up with her she as far as I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► tell swallowed that bird whole like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► you know dig the thing out of her mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► like so many things that I dig out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► dog's mouth that I don't want her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► have she just you know like full like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► Python lizard just slurp down like whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► dead bird beak feathers everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► that's dogs for you so she will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► when called when all the other dogs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► running to the mud puddle but she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► dead bird just like I have made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► mental calculation and whatever treat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► you're going to give me for coming when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT9Nwr8/6469">TS</a>]