0:00:00you know it's the summertime it is time
0:00:02for vacations for a lot of people
0:00:04especially August especially August yeah
0:00:06August is like I think the top vacation
0:00:08month according to the zero research I
0:00:10did before the show about that but but
0:00:13you know there are some vacations a
0:00:14vacation I feel like is a relative term
0:00:17it's a thing that you can do but the
0:00:20things that people choose to do whether
0:00:23they consider that a vacation or not it
0:00:25seems to vary person by person you know
0:00:27but even that sometimes you go on
0:00:29vacation and when you get home you feel
0:00:31like you need a vacation from your
0:00:32vacation yeah exactly like some
0:00:35vacations are just exhausting and some
0:00:38of them are really actually not very fun
0:00:40or not very relaxing you know that very
0:00:42naked lady song never is enough yeah
0:00:47never wanna do that stuff well hearing a
0:00:51lot of our friends and family and loved
0:00:54ones talk about their vacations just
0:00:56sometimes make us say yeah I'm never
0:01:00doing that is plenty of doing that for
0:01:02me and I'm super happy that they enjoyed
0:01:06their vacations as you should but we
0:01:10would like to make a list of our top for
0:01:12vacation nightmares or nightmare
0:01:15vacations I guess
0:01:16or nightmare vacations and some of mine
0:01:18too are things that I actually have done
0:01:20yeah I mean fact I've done most of these
0:01:24and I don't want to do them again
0:01:25exactly
0:01:28yeah because you know it's for me like a
0:01:30vacation for me is I mean something like
0:01:33everybody wants different things out of
0:01:35their vacation some people want to do as
0:01:37little as possible some people want to
0:01:39travel as much as possible and and
0:01:41sightsee when they travel and and or do
0:01:44things like have big adventures when
0:01:47they travel stuff like that and for and
0:01:49you know for other people the the ideal
0:01:51vacation is just like just staying in
0:01:54their house doing as little as possible
0:01:55doing nothing some people want to want
0:01:58to or need to bring their kids or their
0:02:00pets and some people that's the last
0:02:02thing they want to do and and so there's
0:02:04a huge variety of like what people
0:02:06actually want out of a vacation so
0:02:09anyway so this is this is not to insult
0:02:12anyone elses
0:02:13vacation preferences this is gonna be
0:02:15just like the things that we really are
0:02:18not interested in doing do you think at
0:02:19this point people are really insulted by
0:02:21our opinions I guess we probably lost
0:02:23them a long time ago yeah I think the
0:02:25people that get easily insulted have has
0:02:27switched us off probably so anyway so
0:02:31for those of you who are left and not
0:02:32yet insulted prepare to be insulted so
0:02:35here you go we're gonna we're gonna
0:02:36trash everything you like to do oh sorry
0:02:39not sorry we don't want to do it it's
0:02:42our idea of vacation it's not ideal
0:02:46vacations in general because we did not
0:02:49take all vacations like we ate all the
0:02:51ice cream and just tried them out and
0:02:53report it back to you this one why the
0:02:55complete rejection oh we should have
0:02:58done that that would have been the real
0:02:59way to do it so sorry everybody we have
0:03:01we made a huge mistake we should have
0:03:04just taken all of the money that we make
0:03:06from the podcasts and run around and
0:03:08take in all of these vacations yeah just
0:03:10take it just take a bunch of vacations
0:03:12for a whole year and then review the
0:03:14vacations that we take that could be our
0:03:16next podcast actually mark joint if on
0:03:18vacation complain about everywhere we
0:03:25are we would be the worst travel show
0:03:27yeah we'd be like this is boring or
0:03:30weird or I'm tired or I'm hot Oh God
0:03:33that would be everything everywhere we
0:03:34went we would be so dull anyway let's
0:03:37talk about where we would be dull all
0:03:39right my number four are you ready I am
0:03:42ready let's do it alright so in the
0:03:44spirit of top four okay it's a little
0:03:48convoluted here but I have anything
0:03:51skiing cold weather or an ice hotel what
0:03:55is an ice hotel an ice hotel is exactly
0:03:58what it sounds like it's an entire Hotel
0:04:00made of ice that exists like not in
0:04:03movies like I know like you can go stay
0:04:05in nice hotels that sounds like the
0:04:07worst that does some pretty bad like you
0:04:09literally sleep on ice bed in like skins
0:04:12of animals that sounds that way it's
0:04:14p.m. people pay to do this yes they
0:04:16totally pay you this and go to the ice
0:04:18bar and like say in the Ice Hotel benya
0:04:21Lane I I like like a chilled environment
0:04:24like I I appreciate you know there's
0:04:26like two kills
0:04:27the signs freezer-burn like you all will
0:04:29be getting freezer burn if you lie on
0:04:33the floor for too long you get like like
0:04:35frostbite the quints yeah I don't know
0:04:38okay so I seen it like on Travel
0:04:39Channel's and stuff and like Rando
0:04:42internet things like 12 vacations you
0:04:44would don't believe but so easy man I'm
0:04:48like nope I never I never want to do
0:04:50that that's something I never cared to
0:04:52see yeah yeah that sounds awful I mean
0:04:54like I just see even like getting there
0:04:57to see it sounds cold like it sounds
0:05:00like too much to even see it I think
0:05:02seeing it on the TV is just plenty cuz
0:05:05you probably can't have a nice hotel in
0:05:07any remotely warm climate so you have to
0:05:11have to already be in a very cold
0:05:12location they might have one in Dubai
0:05:14well yeah that's everything you do by
0:05:17anyway I also made my list I put those
0:05:20with skiing because I used to really
0:05:22like skiing and I did it with my dad but
0:05:24now I feel like I'm too old and scared
0:05:27to do skiing well like I feel like I
0:05:29just might wet my legs start wobbling
0:05:32yeah as soon as I think about skiing
0:05:34it's exhausting yeah like I did I did go
0:05:37on a ski vacation
0:05:39as part of a bachelor party for my best
0:05:42friend for you know for his before his
0:05:45wedding right that's one of them yeah
0:05:46yeah yeah and and and we went skiing a
0:05:49couple years ago and it was it was in a
0:05:51great location near Seattle and I hadn't
0:05:53been skiing since high school and so I
0:05:56hadn't skied for whatever it was like 10
0:05:5815 years and dangerous it sounds
0:06:03terrifying and the good thing is I
0:06:05remembered how to do it like I did I
0:06:07hadn't lost the skill but as soon like I
0:06:10went down the slopes a few times and I
0:06:13was like oh my god like my knees are
0:06:14starting to get tired and I'm starting
0:06:16to get less stable now and I know like
0:06:18when I was 17 doing this I was probably
0:06:22still mostly made of rubber so that
0:06:24wouldn't really matter if I hurt myself
0:06:25but when I was like 33 or 34 doing it
0:06:28like I would have seriously injured
0:06:30myself and had a much worse longer
0:06:33recovery time if I would have you know
0:06:34fallen in some weird way I messed up my
0:06:35legs but the thing about skiing really
0:06:37is that it needs to have the absolute
0:06:40perfect
0:06:41conditions for it to be fun at all and
0:06:43you need to be in excellent physical
0:06:45condition and practiced at skiing and
0:06:48even if you're hanging out at the lodge
0:06:50it's really not that fun because on like
0:06:53peak ski seasons it's so crowded and
0:06:55it's noisier than it needs to be and you
0:06:58have to wear like weird fitting clothes
0:06:59and wear those stoppi boots and like hey
0:07:02there's just there's so many things
0:07:04there's just so many things and no it's
0:07:07just no so anyway I just don't want to
0:07:10pack for winter vacations it just sounds
0:07:13so bulky and packing for that it's just
0:07:16exhausting I don't want to be on
0:07:18anything treacherous outside like an
0:07:20Everest vacation where there's there's
0:07:22terrifying bridges or ledges or anywhere
0:07:25that I might die like I don't want to
0:07:28encounter any of that winter cold
0:07:31vacation tastic stuff so yeah I mean no
0:07:36thanks I think part of the reasons like
0:07:37we live in New York where we have
0:07:40winters with snow and everything it's
0:07:42like and even though it's not the same
0:07:43as like you know going up a huge
0:07:46mountain with like that kind of snow
0:07:47it's we still have enough snow in enough
0:07:50winters that the last thing we want to
0:07:52do is pay and spend vacation time to go
0:07:57somewhere to experience more winter yeah
0:08:00cuz I couldn't I couldn't even think of
0:08:02a season that I would want to go to
0:08:04winter so in winter I don't want to go
0:08:07to more winter when it's finally spring
0:08:09I'm like thank God spring like you don't
0:08:11want to go to winter when it's
0:08:12summertime it's summertime why waste the
0:08:14summer going back to winter and then
0:08:16when the fall it's almost winter so why
0:08:18[Laughter]
0:08:25that's yeah you're right that's totally
0:08:28amazing yeah it's like IIIi agree like
0:08:31there-there is no time of year where I
0:08:33we're like experiencing more winter like
0:08:36things would be considered refreshing
0:08:38like even now in August when we had were
0:08:41having some really hot days and hanging
0:08:44out in uh near conditioned places a lot
0:08:46of the time and and so we really should
0:08:48like if there was a time that we would
0:08:50want to do that it's probably now and we
0:08:52don't want it like it sounds uh so
0:08:53because I don't want
0:08:55think about putting on more clothes and
0:08:56when you go to the winter you have to
0:08:58put more clothes on so like I don't want
0:09:00to think about bundling up when I'm at
0:09:02my hot like feeling the hottest in the
0:09:04weather anyway so yeah
0:09:06number four never is enough winter so my
0:09:11number four I kind of went in the
0:09:13opposite direction and this is this is
0:09:16one of my only ones that's that's a very
0:09:18specific place and that is Phoenix
0:09:21Arizona and but with all due apologies
0:09:24to the great residents of Phoenix I'm
0:09:27not talking about you here this is very
0:09:30specific yes I'm very curious so the
0:09:33reason was so I I have been to Phoenix
0:09:35Arizona for a number of different things
0:09:38over the years most most notably my
0:09:41grandparents used to live there but now
0:09:43they don't so I don't really have any
0:09:45reason to go back there for any kind of
0:09:47like strong family connection or
0:09:48anything
0:09:49it would just be if I went back there it
0:09:51would be for some other random reason
0:09:52and Phoenix Arizona is a place where for
0:09:58most of the year it is oppressively hot
0:10:01you know so it is so hot and so sunny
0:10:04and so dry because they decided to build
0:10:07a city in the middle of a desert for
0:10:08some reason that they're you you
0:10:11basically can't go outside like it one
0:10:14of the reasons why I get kind of
0:10:15depressed and unhappy in winter is
0:10:18because I feel like the outside
0:10:21conditions are so hostile that I can't
0:10:23really go outside and enjoy myself I
0:10:24can't go like take a big dog lock or or
0:10:27just like walk around outside or do
0:10:29things outside because it's so
0:10:30impressively cold and crappy in the
0:10:32winter Phoenix has that problem in the
0:10:34opposite direction on the heat side like
0:10:36Phoenix is so hot that you basically end
0:10:39up spending all of your time indoors in
0:10:41air conditioning anyway so you can't
0:10:43you're still not going outside and able
0:10:45to really do much outside except for
0:10:47during you know very limited times of
0:10:49the year and limited times of the day
0:10:50but that could be like it that could be
0:10:52a lot of different hot places why
0:10:53Phoenix specifically because Phoenix
0:10:56does not offer me any reason why I want
0:10:58to endure that heat so like one of the
0:11:00reasons like so reason is they didn't
0:11:04give me a good enough reason yeah
0:11:06basically so like like what I want
0:11:08travel somewhere one of the things I'd
0:11:09like to do as you know one of the things
0:11:11that that we enjoy doing is getting a
0:11:14hotel room that has a decent view the
0:11:16kind of view I usually like to get is
0:11:18usually of water or at least a very high
0:11:22up view and one thing Phoenix does not
0:11:25have a lot of is high up hotel buildings
0:11:28and water so there's not a lot there to
0:11:31attract me there now that my family
0:11:33doesn't live there anymore it's also
0:11:34full of not only the the very hostile
0:11:39natural environment of Phoenix but also
0:11:41the wildlife in the in the Phoenix area
0:11:44is scary as hell like they have this the
0:11:48like you know scorpions and coyotes and
0:11:51super coyotes and mega coyotes and ultra
0:11:54coyotes everything that will try to eat
0:11:56you and kill you not to mention the gun
0:11:58people like there's I find the people in
0:12:01Phoenix to be not you do you listener
0:12:03and yeah you're gonna piss off people
0:12:05well you dear listener in Phoenix we're
0:12:07not this are not these people you're
0:12:09probably not the majority unfortunately
0:12:11the other people in Phoenix who are not
0:12:13listening to the show I find generally
0:12:16off-putting too scary and and there you
0:12:19know there's a big like you know
0:12:20conservative gun racists you know
0:12:22undertone of a lot of people there it's
0:12:24interesting very specific here I know
0:12:27something happened to you in Phoenix
0:12:28that you need to talk about no it's just
0:12:30to read to have a moment to get the
0:12:32culture there I feel like it is not a
0:12:33good fit for me either in addition to
0:12:35the climate being a very bad fit for me
0:12:36and then finally is the law of hot
0:12:39places the law of hot places is
0:12:42basically my rule that says that places
0:12:45with really hot letter tend to have
0:12:47really crappy coffee and Phoenix it's
0:12:50true Phoenix is the place where I came
0:12:52up with the law of hot places it is the
0:12:53place that inspired it's the birthplace
0:12:55of the law of hot places they should
0:12:57have a plaque actually at the Phoenix
0:12:59Airport
0:12:59yeah the airport the same Sky Harbor
0:13:00because there's no water anywhere nearby
0:13:02yes
0:13:03everyone wants to be port city it's fine
0:13:06everyone's jealous
0:13:07I respect the the level of denial
0:13:09they've achieved in that Airport with
0:13:11all like the nautical themes it's bad
0:13:14anyway so yeah like the law of hot
0:13:17places basically is you know places with
0:13:20very hot weather tend not to have a lot
0:13:23people seeking out hot coffee and you
0:13:26know most of the caffeine serving these
0:13:27places tends to be iced coffee or you
0:13:30know other like variations like
0:13:31Frappuccino kind of blended drink stuff
0:13:33like that and so ice coffee you're
0:13:36loading up with milk and sugar anyway
0:13:37like even people like me who enjoy black
0:13:39coffee
0:13:40you met most of us I would have eight I
0:13:42would wager will add some kind of
0:13:45sweetener or milk or something to iced
0:13:47coffee so the hot places tend not to
0:13:49have very good coffee because nobody
0:13:50ever really wants it like that there
0:13:52aren't a lot of like hot black coffee
0:13:53drinkers there and and those of us who
0:13:56are there have basically had to deal
0:13:58with whatever options we have and
0:14:00there's not very many of them so there's
0:14:02not really any incentive for them to
0:14:04have a great coffee and they usually
0:14:05don't so combine the relatively poor
0:14:09coffee options along with the miserably
0:14:12hot weather the the oppressive outdoor
0:14:15conditions the ultra maker coyotes and
0:14:17the gun people and I just don't want to
0:14:19go there anymore well there we go
0:14:22wow you feel really strongly about
0:14:24Phoenix sorry Phoenix people yeah I I
0:14:29know some very nice people from Phoenix
0:14:31unfortunately there's a lot more crazy
0:14:34woman sorry okay number three for me is
0:14:39at I know you're usually the one I'm
0:14:45getting my dues in here of screwing up
0:14:47the top forage of these things alright
0:14:52so my number three is a tie between a
0:14:54cruise anywhere and Branson Missouri
0:15:00okay let's I think we need to discuss
0:15:03these individually oh alright where
0:15:08would you like me to start we start with
0:15:09the cruise or bracelets were on specific
0:15:12places let's start with Branson Missouri
0:15:13I don't even know where that is what
0:15:14Missouri okay that's and it's quite
0:15:17brand I barely know where that is but
0:15:19it's this date I mean I in arc I know
0:15:21it's kind of in the middle and I mmm
0:15:25okay my Adam has a little like foam map
0:15:29and I'm trying to picture it and you
0:15:31stick on the wall and the big question
0:15:33is if you were faced with with I can
0:15:35find it well if you were face to the
0:15:37of the US with no lines in it I just
0:15:39know if a sign said Branson Missouri I
0:15:41wouldn't want to go there waiting the
0:15:43signs if you had a map but no with no
0:15:45state lines drawn it was just blank in
0:15:47the middle could you like pinpoint with
0:15:50a pencil like this is in Missouri like
0:15:52any point in there and we do you think
0:15:54you'd be right I'm guessing I have I
0:15:57think I might have the wrong hemisphere
0:15:59of the country honestly in my mind but
0:16:01it doesn't matter I'm not getting on a
0:16:03plane to Branson Missouri I am NOT
0:16:04driving to Branson Missouri I'm not
0:16:06doing it like it's not happening sorry
0:16:09Branson people it's not about the people
0:16:11it's not about the weather well maybe a
0:16:13little bit about the weather but it's
0:16:15really not because I can get over that
0:16:16kind of stuff it's about your content I
0:16:19have a problem with your content you're
0:16:21gonna have to explain this all right so
0:16:23Branson Missouri is kind of like a huge
0:16:25mega vacation spot for a whole bunch of
0:16:30theater and country music and Dolly
0:16:34Parton stuff whoo I really like Dolly
0:16:36Parton but all of that kind of Missouri
0:16:41country music yeah I don't mean to like
0:16:45crap on country music I really don't
0:16:47losing all the friends oh my gosh I know
0:16:49I'm so sorry
0:16:50no and and now I just sounded like such
0:16:52a lady saying crap on country music oh
0:16:55and I've got a choice
0:16:56all right I don't mean to put down
0:16:58country music it's fine but a location
0:17:00for vacation that is so centralized and
0:17:05so saturated with country music sounds
0:17:07like one of the least fun places for me
0:17:09to go so that's why I have it it's just
0:17:13it's a lot of stuff I hear it's very
0:17:15crowded I hear the weather isn't that
0:17:18fantastic and it's almost like you know
0:17:22it's just like a big theater party of
0:17:25country music and I don't want to go
0:17:29there all right so that's it's a tie for
0:17:33cruises wait so I'm home before we leave
0:17:35Branson Missouri have you even like
0:17:37you've never mentioned before how'd you
0:17:38even hear about this place we've never
0:17:40gone anywhere near Missouri you we've
0:17:42you've never as far as I know research
0:17:44to country music destinations how'd you
0:17:46even hear about it well I used to be a
0:17:48theatre kid so Branson
0:17:50Missouri is like a big place to work or
0:17:53have jobs or that people have you know
0:17:55have worked there and it's it's kind of
0:17:58like a mecca of this kind of thing and
0:18:01if you are at all interested in that
0:18:05like going to theater going to shows
0:18:08going to concerts that all happens in
0:18:12Branson it's almost it's like a it's
0:18:14almost like a Disney World for country
0:18:16music and different types of theater
0:18:18it's just it's a very busy and dense
0:18:20area for that more than any other city
0:18:24if you think of like okay like New York
0:18:25has Broadway but Broadway is so spread
0:18:28out Branson Missouri is its own like
0:18:30special little dome of coach of that
0:18:34kind of culture and I don't want to go
0:18:38there you made fun of me for Phoenix and
0:18:40that's like wow but it but Branson is
0:18:43like a destination like it's a big big
0:18:46destination and I just would never want
0:18:50to go so if anyone's like oh I'm taking
0:18:52a trip to Branson you want to come I'd
0:18:53be like even if you're my favorite
0:18:55person in the whole world no I don't
0:18:57want to go so never is enough Branson
0:19:00Missouri tie for number three because I
0:19:03couldn't I just couldn't not say
0:19:04anything about Branson because it was
0:19:05just it's such it's it's such a dense
0:19:08area and it's so prominent and it's it's
0:19:12so well known by almost everybody except
0:19:15for Marco anyway cruises never is enough
0:19:19except we did do one cruise and we were
0:19:22totally seasick the whole time and we
0:19:24kept taking Dramamine which we thought
0:19:26was drought non-drowsy Dramamine and we
0:19:28kept falling asleep at dinner
0:19:29the food isn't that great you're kind of
0:19:31trapped on a boat you are forced to have
0:19:33fun in ways that you don't want to have
0:19:34fun you feel like you're getting nowhere
0:19:36because you aren't really getting
0:19:38anywhere if there's bad weather you the
0:19:41boats rocky and it's terrible even we
0:19:43stayed in like a really good room and it
0:19:45was still the room was high up with a
0:19:48view of water it that that part was very
0:19:49nice but it would not make that alone
0:19:53does not make me want to get on a cruise
0:19:54again you don't have enough time in the
0:19:56port cities to really do much when you
0:19:59do stop it the even just walking past
0:20:02some of the interior
0:20:04cabin rooms made me nauseous because
0:20:06they have no windows in little beds and
0:20:08I'm like I don't know how anyone could
0:20:09stay in there I would get sick instantly
0:20:12and just all the things that were
0:20:14happening on the cruise were things that
0:20:16we never would want to even do we
0:20:18couldn't find anything to do on the boat
0:20:20that we like to do because we didn't
0:20:21want to do any of it like we don't want
0:20:23to eat half the food because it was all
0:20:25like fatty random super indulgent stuff
0:20:29that doesn't make you feel good
0:20:30especially when you're seasick half the
0:20:31time and we didn't want to go in the
0:20:33pool because almost all the other places
0:20:36were crowded we didn't want to drink
0:20:37because we were already nauseous like
0:20:39there was just so much happening on a
0:20:42cruise that we didn't want to do so I
0:20:46would never again do a cruise to
0:20:49anywhere so yeah see I feel like I feel
0:20:52like there there would be I'm sure there
0:20:55are cruises out there that we would
0:20:56enjoy more we just didn't find the right
0:20:59one and it doesn't seem like it's worth
0:21:01trying a bunch of them to find the right
0:21:03one okay so let me let me pitch it to
0:21:05you this way any kind of themed cruise I
0:21:07don't want to be forced into a theme on
0:21:10my vacation stuck on a boat with a whole
0:21:12bunch of people who are super excited
0:21:13about the theme number two an untamed
0:21:16Cruise what's happening on this cruise
0:21:19why are we even on this boat why can't I
0:21:21just be in a hotel somewhere that I can
0:21:23escape from if I wanted to and so there
0:21:26we go and I see this thing yeah like
0:21:28that for me like the I suppose the once
0:21:31we discovered Vegas which we thought we
0:21:33would hate and and we ended up you know
0:21:35finding a way that we like cruise but
0:21:38you don't move right oh it's better
0:21:40right like once we discovered that I I
0:21:42realized that most of the advantages
0:21:44that we liked about cruise is like you
0:21:46know you everything's kind of right
0:21:48there it's ah it's kind of all on
0:21:49property you don't really need to leave
0:21:52you know the cruise or the Vegas to like
0:21:56find good restaurants and stuff that you
0:21:58want to do it but I gotta say Vegas and
0:22:00cruises
0:22:01I don't mind kitschy I really don't rush
0:22:04sometimes kitschy is fun but I want to
0:22:06be able to control the amount of Kitsch
0:22:08that is entering my periphery I I do and
0:22:12I feel like when we go to Vegas we stay
0:22:14at a place that we can kind of control
0:22:16the amount of kitsch
0:22:17kind of get away from it we have times
0:22:19that we're outside like it's just it's
0:22:22it's a low-level hum of kitsch the
0:22:24entire time it's not the shouting of
0:22:27kitsch so yeah it's just I just feel
0:22:31like cruises are just too much and I
0:22:32think at one point I'll just be like I
0:22:35might jump off the boat I don't know I
0:22:37don't know I don't want to put myself in
0:22:38that position where I feel like I want
0:22:40to jump the boat yeah I feel like part
0:22:43of our problem was that we really did
0:22:44not react well to the you know really
0:22:46rough water that we had and like when
0:22:48you're on a cruise like you're you're at
0:22:49the mercy of the water conditions for a
0:22:51lot of your enjoyment like if if you're
0:22:53having or if you're having rough seas
0:22:55you're just kind of out of luck like
0:22:57you're just gonna have to deal with that
0:22:58and even the fact that that is a tiny
0:23:01factor at all I what I know I know I'm
0:23:05just saying it is like if someone's
0:23:06considering it a tiny factor out there
0:23:09at all it being a tiny factor that the
0:23:11place where I am sleeping and staying
0:23:13and living for the amount of time that I
0:23:16have to be there could possibly move and
0:23:18make me sick I don't want to deal with
0:23:20it yeah all right
0:23:22are you are you done with all of your
0:23:24number three if you have any more number
0:23:25three's to do nope I think I hit all
0:23:28those points Branson Missouri crews not
0:23:31enough time at ports trapped seasick yep
0:23:34done okay my sole number three looks I'm
0:23:39doing this right for once
0:23:40well you just that's just sad it's all
0:23:43by itself my soul number three is
0:23:46speaking at a conference
0:23:48what so okay wait hold on mister Armand
0:23:54yes it is fine to have this list say
0:23:58things like yeah we did it once and we
0:24:01would never do it again
0:24:02this sounds like a list of things that
0:24:05you have done and have hated not so much
0:24:08an a list of things that you would never
0:24:10want to do based on the description of
0:24:12them because I really like assuming
0:24:14things personally and then you know
0:24:16talking about them like it's our job
0:24:18don't okay I'll get to those okay those
0:24:20are higher on the list okay I feel like
0:24:22right now I feel like we're getting
0:24:23getting a little sad and sad no speaka
0:24:27conferences is very simple it basically
0:24:29like you know conferences are often
0:24:31in really interesting nice places or
0:24:34venues or cities or whatever and they're
0:24:36often a way to for for you know young
0:24:40professionals to travel around for
0:24:43discounted rates or for free or to even
0:24:45get paid for traveling to these awesome
0:24:47places in exchange for you speaking at a
0:24:50conference or taking some part in a
0:24:51conference like that these are often
0:24:53held in like a some really nice places
0:24:55that I would love to have time to
0:24:57explore but when I am there to speak or
0:25:01you have a presentation or something
0:25:02like that
0:25:02I get so nervous about that and so
0:25:06consumed in the preparation of it I have
0:25:08spent so much time preparing for it that
0:25:11I'm not able to enjoy the great places
0:25:13these conferences are and so I like the
0:25:17the beauty of the place or the
0:25:19interestingness of the city or whatever
0:25:21is wasted on me because I'm I'm nervous
0:25:24about my talk or I'm you're Herzing my
0:25:26talk or I'm still building my talk
0:25:28hold the phone yeah you're playing this
0:25:30game wrong this is nightmare vacations a
0:25:33conference that invites you to speak in
0:25:34some clothes vacation it's work well it
0:25:37kind of feels like a vacation especially
0:25:38a lot of times you're not getting good
0:25:40nightmares like a vacation vacations
0:25:43well but they do and a lot of a lot of
0:25:45the vacations we've taken in the last
0:25:47five years or so have been me speaking
0:25:49at a conference and so I am rejecting
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0:29:12did not have a number three what is your
0:29:13number two can't believe that was
0:29:17alright my number two is Florida Mexico
0:29:23Machu Picchu or anywhere with monkeys
0:29:26okay wait is that is that a list to
0:29:32represent all places with monkeys or is
0:29:35the monkeys a separate item on that list
0:29:36are there monkeys in Florida is is what
0:29:38I'm really asking here I don't think
0:29:40there are monkeys in Florida if they are
0:29:42they might be like performing street
0:29:43monkeys like the little ones with the
0:29:51hats okay I don't know monkeys freak me
0:29:54out don't like monkeys I don't want to
0:29:57be in any of those cities where there
0:29:59are monkeys everywhere just can't handle
0:30:02it
0:30:02yeah those look weird Florida sounds
0:30:05terrible I bit while I've been to
0:30:07Florida and I don't really want to go
0:30:09back for a vacation I will go back for
0:30:11things if I have to go do things in
0:30:13Florida but for a vacation like I'm
0:30:16gonna go on vacation yeah it's not gonna
0:30:19be Florida has heat humidity mosquitos
0:30:2120 something people slow drivers slow
0:30:23walkers hopefully be alligators and
0:30:25stuff alligators there's like apparently
0:30:27tons of serial killers according to
0:30:29Dexter so I mean it sounds like a place
0:30:32where it doesn't sound very fun to be
0:30:34down there I have Mexico on this list
0:30:37because I do believe they have monkeys
0:30:39they are also very hot but I think some
0:30:44people have had some really nice times
0:30:45in Mexico but from what I've heard again
0:30:48huge stereotype what I've heard what's
0:30:50going on the people often go to Resorts
0:30:52and that they do not leave the resort
0:30:54because it's very dangerous so that does
0:30:56not sound like a good vacation place to
0:30:58me where I would feel like oh I have to
0:31:00fly in and get to this one place and
0:31:02then everything's gonna be okay and I
0:31:03will have all the drinks that I want and
0:31:05party party party and then I just want
0:31:07to get on the plane and leave that
0:31:09doesn't make me feel great of a place to
0:31:11go visit
0:31:12and Machu Picchu it's a whole bunch of
0:31:15ruins which I think are probably very
0:31:17beautiful in real life but I seen
0:31:19pictures of them and generally I don't
0:31:21need to walk around a whole bunch of
0:31:23ruins I know there's a lot of culture
0:31:26and a lot of history and things like
0:31:28that and I love learning about that kind
0:31:30of stuff from the comfort of my own
0:31:31couch and so never is enough sorry
0:31:38Florida Mexico Machu Picchu and anywhere
0:31:40with monkeys how is that possibly one
0:31:44entry they seem like a little cluster
0:31:47like a group like an idea they all kind
0:31:50of went together in my mind
0:31:51so a hot weather dangerous resorts ruins
0:31:53and monkeys so that's that all sounds
0:31:55the same to you yeah cuz root the ruins
0:31:57sound dangerous too like I feel like I
0:31:59could get hurt or bit by a snake or
0:32:00something I'm not afraid of snakes but
0:32:02I'm afraid of very poisonous snakes and
0:32:04it seems like the very poisonous snakes
0:32:06would be in ruins or possibly something
0:32:10cursed don't want to encounter that but
0:32:12I'm sure stakes but I'm afraid of
0:32:14getting bitten by what well yeah I'm
0:32:15sure there's monkeys running around
0:32:16holding you know venomous snakes and
0:32:19throwing them they throw them at you
0:32:20that's how the snakes get to you
0:32:21obviously I know there just seems like
0:32:23there's just too much danger for me to
0:32:25ever want to actually vacation there wow
0:32:30I have nothing to add to that I don't
0:32:34even know where to add from this crazy
0:32:36Tower number to hear that Wow yep never
0:32:40is enough I will see that Florida I
0:32:42consider putting Florida on my list
0:32:44because it's also not really for me
0:32:46however you know compared to Arizona
0:32:48Florida while that it also has a lot of
0:32:51heat and a lot of crazy wildlife and
0:32:53what a crazy Florida is full of humidity
0:32:56it's that like wet so key grossie okay
0:32:59so so Florida yes Florida is indeed very
0:33:03very humid but the people in dry places
0:33:06like Arizona I don't sell they'll say
0:33:07well it's 115 degrees here but it's a
0:33:10dry heat you know everyone always says
0:33:11it's a dry heat it's not as bad and
0:33:12they're right a dry heat is not as bad
0:33:15as the crazy Florida heat however as hot
0:33:19as it is in Arizona is bad regardless of
0:33:21how dry it is like it is still really
0:33:23bad so Florida yes Florida is also
0:33:25really
0:33:26but horrible and that makes it bad - but
0:33:28Arizona people you you have nothing
0:33:30better to say like you you have no your
0:33:33honor but Florida here why are you
0:33:36bringing Arizona back into this you just
0:33:37keep wanting to beat them down
0:33:39reasonably my Arizona in my list in
0:33:41Florida didn't is because at least when
0:33:45you go to Florida you can find a high up
0:33:47hotel room with a view of the water that
0:33:50we want to actually go outside or go
0:33:52anywhere near the surface of the ground
0:33:55where all the crazy gun people and
0:33:56alligators are but you can at least stay
0:33:58in your nice hotel and look at the water
0:34:00and enjoy the breeze that is true if we
0:34:01did go to a wedding in Florida it was
0:34:03very very nice
0:34:04exactly and that's that's a place where
0:34:06we went in the winter and it was really
0:34:08nice to have like fresh warm air in the
0:34:12middle of the winter because it was more
0:34:14reasonable there I would not go to
0:34:15Florida anytime during the summer
0:34:17because they would be way too hot and
0:34:18horrible but that is a nice place to go
0:34:21in the winter if you just want to stay
0:34:22in a hotel and not do much else which
0:34:24does sound kind of like us actually I'm
0:34:27still keeping Florida on my list because
0:34:29I will go to Florida for an event that
0:34:31to me is not a vacation and that's why
0:34:33you have a void at your number three
0:34:34because so I will happily go to Florida
0:34:39when invited for an event or something
0:34:42like that
0:34:43okay that's out that but as in a choice
0:34:46to go to Florida generally no all right
0:34:51my number two is going back to my
0:34:54hometown for a high school reunion
0:34:58you're so bad at this list what is the
0:35:01bet that's a vacation yeah a one-time
0:35:04vacation high school reunions happen
0:35:06like three times ever
0:35:07you just country to yourself in one
0:35:09sentence that's fine I do what I want
0:35:12here man look good my pike so I haven't
0:35:14gone my ten-year reunion past how many
0:35:18years are your ten-year reunion and I'll
0:35:20tell you why you beat you we've gotten
0:35:25snake sorting by monkeys a much broader
0:35:30idea high school reunion really isn't
0:35:35events Marco doesn't want to attend
0:35:37podcast this is nice
0:35:40Kayson that's a vacation you know
0:35:42because some people considered a
0:35:44vacation I'm gonna go keep going you're
0:35:50ridiculous because these are events that
0:35:53you're saying you don't want to go to
0:35:54it's like saying like I don't want to go
0:35:56to my cousin's wedding like this isn't a
0:35:58vacation event that you have to travel
0:36:01to in another place it's not a vacation
0:36:03a vacation is something that you sit
0:36:05down and you plan and you decide we have
0:36:08nothing to do this weekend and we want
0:36:10to do something or this week or next
0:36:13month or first spring break your list
0:36:16and commit a mountain and an animal
0:36:24vacations are things that you plan to go
0:36:28to when you have nothing when no that is
0:36:31an event that is an event speaking at a
0:36:34conference is an event high school
0:36:36reunions is an event going to weddings
0:36:38is an event graduations event there is e
0:36:42these are events and obligations most of
0:36:44those things right this isn't the
0:36:46offense an obligations nightmare story
0:36:49nightmare vacations which you plan for
0:36:51leisure or leisure or however you want
0:36:54to say it the thing where you do or you
0:36:55hang out and you relax and you do
0:36:57something for fun that makes you happy
0:36:58because oh my god well no you're getting
0:37:06me all riled up because you're Julie
0:37:09think of a place that you would oh my
0:37:12gosh where would you not want to go on
0:37:14vacation uh a bar in Columbus Ohio that
0:37:18has people in my high school in it
0:37:22[Laughter]
0:37:25what quit anyway that's my number two
0:37:31[Laughter]
0:37:33what's your number one honey I don't
0:37:37know honey
0:37:37it's certainly not a high school reunion
0:37:40that only happens every five years that
0:37:42I wouldn't want to go to anyway what's
0:37:46your number one honey my number one
0:37:48nightmare vacation as in an event that I
0:37:53would plan and attend hmm
0:37:56I shouldn't say event I should say
0:37:58location Oh interesting you can cut that
0:38:01out that was a slip of the lip no I'm
0:38:03not cutting that up I don't it's not an
0:38:05event all right good night verification
0:38:10a place that I would plan to go to and
0:38:14enjoy some time there or not enjoy my
0:38:17number one is Disney Disney sounds like
0:38:21the worst oh you'd go there of our
0:38:25friends talk about going to Disney and
0:38:27everything that they talk about
0:38:29happening in Disney sounds terrible
0:38:33it just sounds terrible it is lines it
0:38:35is crowds its heat its people and giant
0:38:38character costumes which is slightly
0:38:39terrifying it's like you know I've been
0:38:42and I'm sure a little bit of Branson
0:38:50Missouri is in there too because they
0:38:51have that whole small world business
0:38:53going on so it just rolled into one
0:38:57giant aqua globe of just things not for
0:39:01you not fun no not fun yeah it's it's
0:39:04hard for it cuz like so many of our
0:39:05friends do go to Disney on a regular
0:39:07basis and enjoy it and tell us that we
0:39:09would like it or that we should go I
0:39:11would not land and every time they
0:39:12explained to us why we would like it and
0:39:16why it's not what we think the things
0:39:18they say are things that we don't like
0:39:20or would hate like it no one has ever
0:39:24made a good argument as to why we would
0:39:26like this they may they be convinced as
0:39:29to why they like it and that's fine as
0:39:30you mentioned it's at the start of the
0:39:32show people like different things but no
0:39:35one has ever
0:39:36it said anything about Disney or what
0:39:38it's like to actually go there that made
0:39:40it sound tempting for us and we we are
0:39:42it sounds terrible to go there with
0:39:44children because first of all you have
0:39:45to force them through all the crowds and
0:39:47the lines and the heat and the
0:39:49terrifying characters and the travel to
0:39:50get there to be in life and the travel
0:39:52to get there to begin with and then you
0:39:53either have to get there super early at
0:39:55the park or stay there for a really long
0:39:57time and there's all kinds of strange
0:39:58weirdo passes that don't seem to work
0:40:00the way they need to work to throw a
0:40:02whole bunch of money at the problem
0:40:04you have to like plan all of this stuff
0:40:07and have these silly little key fob e
0:40:10things all over the place that they're
0:40:12apparently some nice restaurants to go
0:40:14to but you have to go through all of the
0:40:16lines heat crowds and characters to get
0:40:18to the restaurants so why would I bother
0:40:20I can't go to a nice restaurant here
0:40:22without waiting online without going
0:40:24through all creepy characters without
0:40:25having all of this happen I have no
0:40:27heart connection to Disney whatsoever
0:40:30I really don't my son has really no
0:40:34heart connection to Disney yes we like
0:40:36to watch movies they are fine they're
0:40:38movies that's what they are I don't need
0:40:40to go get into the movie to enjoy it
0:40:42like I have no desire to that I see the
0:40:45movie I it's over I shut it off and I
0:40:46move on with my life I would not like
0:40:49Disney I just I wouldn't like it I've
0:40:51been there as a child I have very little
0:40:54memory of it I don't I don't think I had
0:40:57that much fun I mean I might have had
0:40:59some fun but I just remember it being
0:41:01hot I remember not wanting to walk and I
0:41:04remember waiting aligns so there you go
0:41:08and I remember goofy trying to bite my
0:41:10head at a restaurant and it was super
0:41:12awkward why did he do that I was a
0:41:14little girl didn't need to happen anyway
0:41:17probably like some poor high school kid
0:41:18in the summer job in that costume and I
0:41:20also feel bad for all the people who are
0:41:22working there right they all have to
0:41:23like sit in those sweltering costumes
0:41:25and like just everything surrounding the
0:41:29Disney I don't think I would like I I
0:41:32just don't know ride to me is worth a
0:41:34two-hour line nothing is like no ride to
0:41:38me is worth booking hours in advance and
0:41:40then trying to get back to it to go to
0:41:42it just if I wanted to go on rides I'll
0:41:45just go for a day at an amusement park
0:41:48and rainy days in amusement park
0:41:50are awesome actually rollercoasters in
0:41:52the rain amazing cuz they're not that
0:41:55scary but they're much better when the
0:41:57rains in your face is going to it's
0:42:00really very fun then but yeah I just
0:42:03yeah trams parking every I know
0:42:07everything about it yeah I think we are
0:42:10we are lucky in that our Sun is really
0:42:13has it really never gotten that
0:42:15interested in like the individual
0:42:17characters of the movies like he'll want
0:42:19to watch a movie a few times and then
0:42:21you know he'll be he'll like the movie
0:42:23for a little bit and then he'll be done
0:42:24with it he'll move on he doesn't get
0:42:25obsessed with the characters as much as
0:42:27a lot of kids do and so yeah we bought
0:42:29him some like little toys of things of
0:42:31characters for movies he likes and he
0:42:32likes it's like oh cool and then he
0:42:35moves on yeah yeah yeah so like we're
0:42:38lucky that like you know if your kids
0:42:41are super into it then I could see why
0:42:43you'd go that you know you were you'd
0:42:44endure all this stuff you know to give
0:42:46your kids a good time but why adults go
0:42:49there is for them for their own benefit
0:42:53is all for reasons that sound awful to
0:42:56me and like and I know we're getting the
0:42:59most feedback about this we're and we're
0:43:01gonna have the most of our friends
0:43:01telling us why we should do this and why
0:43:03we're all wrong about this
0:43:04I'm sorry folks never enough it sounds
0:43:07that what you're getting it sounds it
0:43:10sounds like it's not worth all the
0:43:11hassle and and also you know if we were
0:43:13if we were to go everybody has their
0:43:16tips about well it is horrible you're
0:43:19right unless you do tips XY and Z and
0:43:22everyone has a different list of those
0:43:24things and I know that in practice we
0:43:27wouldn't we would do something wrong we
0:43:29you know we would not do the tip
0:43:30correctly or we would not take the
0:43:32Fastpass Express line properly or
0:43:35whatever and like something we would do
0:43:36it wrong and then ever end we'd have a
0:43:39bad time and all these people who were
0:43:41telling us that we would love this would
0:43:43be like well you just did it wrong like
0:43:44I don't think it's just I don't want the
0:43:46possibility of going somewhere and just
0:43:50because I went there and I didn't do it
0:43:51right it was the reason I didn't want it
0:43:53didn't have fun I just want to be able
0:43:55to go somewhere and enjoy it for what it
0:43:58is I don't want to have to put in a
0:43:59whole bunch of research and work and
0:44:01like all of this
0:44:04overhead to have fun in a fake fun land
0:44:08yeah it seems like you can really have
0:44:10to try very hard to properly manage a
0:44:14successful Disney trip and I know there
0:44:17are people you can pay to help you
0:44:18manage it and even that sounds weird it
0:44:20sounds it just sounds like a waste of
0:44:22money to me like I really I wouldn't
0:44:23even feel good about throwing money at
0:44:25this problem because it doesn't sound
0:44:28like a great way for us to spend money
0:44:32in order to get back memories of
0:44:35enjoyment because I would spend the
0:44:38whole time
0:44:39having angry face the only thing I will
0:44:43say just agree with you on is you said
0:44:45you kind of said earlier that like you'd
0:44:47rather go there than other or you rather
0:44:49go go to just any amusement park I
0:44:51honestly I don't like any amusement
0:44:53parks if I'm going to go to one I would
0:44:57probably want to go to a really big
0:44:59well-run one and by most people
0:45:01description descriptions Disney is that
0:45:03so no see to me an amusement park is a
0:45:06getting get out you spent you go there
0:45:07you spend a couple hours there yeah but
0:45:11it's not like tons of it a week
0:45:14difference no and it's not like let me
0:45:16buy Fast Pass tickets to get on a line
0:45:19that other people are standing on for
0:45:20two hours it's literally like a
0:45:2215-minute line to go do the log flume or
0:45:25whatever and then you're done like well
0:45:27but like you know smaller parks are
0:45:29often you know not very well-run and you
0:45:32know at least it does it have to be for
0:45:35you to go there you get your dippin dots
0:45:36you get online for the roller coaster
0:45:38you use the bathroom four or five times
0:45:40you watch the bird show and then the
0:45:42spinning plates and then you get to go
0:45:44home like it's done yeah see I would
0:45:49rather just not go to him using Park at
0:45:51all and just do anything else in the in
0:45:53the world than that anyway so that's
0:45:55your number one yeah that is my hard and
0:45:59strong number one Disney no matter what
0:46:01anyone tells me it's not gonna happen
0:46:04and I respect that you enjoy it because
0:46:06it's your vacation it's not mine so
0:46:09there we go my number one is similar to
0:46:13some of your ones that you've been
0:46:14sprinkling throughout your various
0:46:16horrible
0:46:16horribly structured list you have over
0:46:19there okay is it monkeys or Branson
0:46:21Missouri its rocks no it's similar
0:46:23that's actually my number one is the
0:46:26general category of hiking and camping
0:46:27Oh see now that's that's a proper mode
0:46:31you get battery on the list yes the
0:46:35general category of hiking and camping
0:46:39this also includes tangentially related
0:46:42things like mountain climbing RV touring
0:46:47or caravana depending where you are the
0:46:49idea of going in a vehicle that's
0:46:51basically a big camper van thing so
0:46:53pretty much any form of roughing it
0:46:54which is outside of your own home yeah
0:46:56exactly and and it's like pretty much
0:46:59like everything Brady doesn't vacation
0:47:01like Brady goes to nice resorts as well
0:47:04these are grinding mountains and stuff
0:47:06and like diving into volcanoes like I
0:47:09don't want to do any of that or any
0:47:10outdoor hike or or any kind of camping
0:47:13or anything like camping I really prefer
0:47:17the not camping yeah I really prefer the
0:47:21the basic modern amenities of like
0:47:24bathrooms and walls climate control when
0:47:29necessary screens to block out things
0:47:32like mosquitoes all night or monkey um I
0:47:35like being able to have like a small
0:47:38snack in my bag without having to worry
0:47:39about bears you know stuff like that
0:47:41like I'm hiking or monkeys yeah I guess
0:47:44yeah like just everything about that
0:47:47about like the whole like you know
0:47:48camping scene that just is incredibly
0:47:53unappealing to me we have done it and it
0:47:55was far too many toenails - yeah that
0:47:57was not great they grew back it's fine
0:47:59yeah and and hiking as like a trip like
0:48:02I don't mind like a day hike where which
0:48:05is basically a fancy word for walking in
0:48:06the woods that's cool
0:48:07but like when you're like carrying days
0:48:10worth of stuff in a backpack and then
0:48:12camping at night and stuff that is
0:48:14really not at all for me we have a large
0:48:19supply of camping gear and hiking
0:48:22backpacks for sale if anyone is
0:48:24interested please contact Marco hmm yeah
0:48:27use it once yes please
0:48:31oh they were heavily used but for a
0:48:32short time that's true
0:48:34heavily used once heavily used for four
0:48:36days yeah
0:48:39God impression bags mm-hmm we got it all
0:48:43mm-hmm all sorts of stuff that I hope to
0:48:45never use again cuz we love gear mm-hmm
0:48:48we do like that the gear shopping and
0:48:49everything was much better than the
0:48:51actual use of subset gear our son plays
0:48:53in the tent in our playroom does yep yep
0:48:58yes five-year-olds and pillows and
0:49:01popcorn while watching movies inside
0:49:04yeah
0:49:05hiking camping that whole the whole
0:49:09outdoor holding the whole outdoor
0:49:11adventure category nothing not at all
0:49:15for me at all for people who this is for
0:49:19more power to you I respect that but
0:49:21please never never bring me again so
0:49:24yeah I could I could get into some small
0:49:27versions of those so that's why I didn't
0:49:29put them on my list like I could do a
0:49:31little bit of camping here and there I
0:49:32think I think campfires are fun I like
0:49:35wood walking I feel proud of the trip
0:49:39that we did even though it was
0:49:40exhausting and tiring and I probably
0:49:43wouldn't do it again but I'm proud that
0:49:44we did do it yeah but that is that is a
0:49:47legit entry I'm surprised Disney didn't
0:49:50make your list because I had Disney on
0:49:54my consideration listen I got some would
0:49:56you like to put Disney in either your
0:49:59number two or number three slots I was
0:50:02rejected by the top four committee I I
0:50:05dispute the rejection still it doesn't
0:50:08matter I'm a committee of one I guess
0:50:10yeah third in number three I guess all
0:50:11right there we go I don't know if I'll
0:50:13see I don't know if I'd hated enough to
0:50:15put it at number one number one I'm just
0:50:18asking if you wanted to pop it in to
0:50:20number two or three since you had some
0:50:22openings I never wanna do that stuff